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order town of Winslow main Town council
meeting Monday December 14th 2020 at 7M

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Lisa can I have a roll call please yes
Ben twitchell yes Jerry claran yes Steve

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Russell Patricia
a oh good hi Steve hi sorry Patricia

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a no uh Jeff West yes Lee Tran yes and
Ray Karen yes uh if everybody could just

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rise and say the Pledge of Allegiance
please that would be

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great I pledge allegiance to the flag FL
United States of Amer

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can I have a motion to accept the
minutes of the previous

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meeting moved Lisa you got
that yes okay can I have a roll call

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will be roll call on everything today
please yes um who was first and who was

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second I was first thank you Dad yeah
and second Jerry go ahead Jerry take it

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awesome uh roll call Ben twitchel yes
Jerry quaran yes Steve Russell yes Jeff

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West yes Lee
Tran yes Ray Karen yes and is Trish

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gonna be with us tonight or
not I believe she just signed on she's

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here okay Trish can you hear
me I don't see her

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okay she'll be on shortly that's fine
okay thank you Communications today uh

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Library trustee appointment Rebecca
Hudson so

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move move by Jerry second by Ben I have
an uh we all got a letter to whom it may

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concern please be advised that the
winsell library Board of Trustees is

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recommending the appointment of Rebecca
Hudson to fill the vacant position on

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the board effective January 1st 2001 and
it's signed by all the uh uh wins

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Library Board of Trustees so any other
discussion on the

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appointment can you hear me now we can
okay okay hi I'm here hi

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Trish uh we're voting on right now the
winsell library Board of trustee

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nomination of Rebecca
Hudson and ready for a roll call yes we

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are Ben twitchel yes Gary Clarion yes
Steve Russell yes Patricia

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a yes Jeff West yes Lee Tran yes and Ray
Garen yes pass order of business on the

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communications would be Financial
overview

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rayon Kirsten wette uh Hank Farah would
you uh start your presentation for the

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audit please all right how's everybody
doing today okay um completely missing

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out on my big G sandwich um so this has
been pretty disappointing that I have to

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do this over Zoom um because normally I
have a half a governor King in Me by the

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time I start doing this
presentation so if I'm off a bit it's

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because I don't have my Big G's well if
you're here you can get over there and

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get one I I don't think I can get up
there in time I think they're closed at

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seven all right

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all right
so I'm sharing my scen does everybody

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see the screen I'm sharing yep Y is it
the right one because for some reason

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they got something weird on this other
screen all right so we're going to go

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over some audit results today and then
uh open it up to questions after I get

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through uh the good news is not too much
exciting for me to talk about and again

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I've always say that never want me to
show up and talk about anything exciting

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because we only give you bad news we
tell you everything that went wrong in

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town including the school we don't tell
you what went right um but I will say

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this was quite an odd year I don't know
if you guys noticed the 2020 has been a

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little bit weird all the way around um
we had to handled the first part of our

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audit
remotely um and we handled a big chunk

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of that between Paula and Tanya at the
at the school in the town and they did

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such a wonderful job and everybody all
the staff helped out got us a lot of

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information
remotely uh and we were asking for a lot

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of information a lot of invoices a lot
of payroll information I I kind of I

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felt like I was on an apology tour in
May and June because I was making people

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scan so many things uh but we got
through it all uh and overall everything

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went quite well um we did get to come
visit uh during the back half uh of the

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audit when we were there in August um so
and we were slowed down because again

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everything in 2020 seems to been slowed
down but uh certain things on aicpa

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level which is the American Institute of
certified public accountants uh they

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were delayed with some report language
that we needed to use uh so Norm

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normally I'd become visiting you a
little bit earlier I think I'm normally

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up there in November uh to come talk to
you but we got delayed a month because

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of that so hopefully you guys didn't
miss me too much last

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month um and so we'll jump right into
this uh financial statement opinion

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unmodified that's what you want that's a
clean opinion means everything is fairly

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stated in all material respects we say
fairly stated in all material respects

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because we do not audit 100% of the
transactions if we did we would just

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work at the Town um but I felt we got
enough of a good sample size up there

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and enough audit evidence to Rend our a
clean opinion uh for the town we also

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issue a few other reports there's
reports required by government auditing

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standards that's where we take a look at
your internal control over financial

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reporting and let you know if there's
any sort of material weaknesses or

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significant deficiencies within that
internal control structure no material

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weaknesses which is good uh one
significant deficiency uh and it's not a

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major one it's just because you rely on
us to know all the accounting rules uh I

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I think governmental accounting might be
the most complicated accounting out

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there um and you rely on us to just know
all the ins and outs and really a lot of

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the uh Actuarial information that goes
in there and a lot of those footnotes

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just very complicated and it's a lot
easier to have your auditor just know

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those rules and pop those financial
statements to for you guys so uh nothing

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to be frightened about that you're
relying on us to prepare those

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financials that's what a lot of
communities do uh throughout the state

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of
Maine we also issue reports required by

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the uniform guidance used to be called
om circular a133 and that's where we

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take a look at your federal dollars that
are being spent and then test any

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programs that are deemed major uh the
major program this year was Title One

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tested that over at the school dep
Department happy to say no findings so

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overall a very clean uh bill of health
uh when it came to our audit work um I

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do want to mention about your federal
awards that uh the town of Winslow

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receives a little over $1.6 million in
federal funds uh in fiscal year

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2020 uh almost all of those are at the
school the town doesn't get too much on

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federal funding uh out of that 1.6
million I think 1.58 of it uh is over at

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the school and I think about 40 4,000 40
to 50,000 is on the town

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side so let's talk about the
financials uh we're going to focus on

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the general fund and whenever I say
general fund it's going to include the

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school operations uh they're presented
separately in the financial statements

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and the school also issues its own set
of financial statements uh they're just

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in more detail uh than they are in the
town financials but all the numbers are

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the same between the two reports I
promise you uh fund balance for the town

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is broken up we got a we got it shown in
uh four categories here but there really

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a couple more than that but one is the
nonspendable and committed and

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nonspendable is just if you have
inventory it's nonspendable uh committed

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is made up of your um uh reserve for uh
sick pay uh that's sick pay Bank um sick

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Lea payout that's around 48,000 but
that's a very small sliver on there then

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we have
unassigned un uh assigned unassigned for

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the town and unassigned for the school
uh overall fund balance went up around

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990,000 from the prior it almost went up
a million um and we're going to talk a

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lot about that uh the townside saw an
increase of around 440,000 while the

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school saw an increase of almost 550,000
now a signed fund balance consists of uh

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plenty of other things uh consists like
there's some sewer some other

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Appropriations what you're carrying
forward to the next period so a detailed

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list of that can be found on page 33 of
your financials the biggest chunks in

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that assigned fund balance are you
budgeted to use 700,000 of fund balance

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for your fiscal 21 budget so that makes
up part of that 1.6 million uh you have

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390,000 assigned for sewer and then you
set aside uh uh Municipal Solid Waste

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reserve and that's at around 419,000 so
those are the biggest amounts that are

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in those assigned fund balances and you
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the school both went up from the prior
year uh the school went from a deficit

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of uh a little over 700,000 uh to a
deficit that's under 200,000 this year

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so they made up a lot of ground almost
uh in the black at this point uh but I

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do want to point out that that
unassigned school fund deficit includes

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the acral for Teacher summer salaries
which are amounts uh because the

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teachers are done working at June 30 uh
they fulfilled their contract but they

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get paid through those summer months uh
Accounting Standards require you to book

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that as a liability so that liability is
included which is which puts that in the

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negative uh the
unassigned uh fund balance for the town

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went up around
600,000 I do want to point out that in

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last year's
presentation uh the budgeted use of

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surplus which you guys budgeted to use
around 94,000 for fy20 um that was not

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in put in the assign so if you take a
look at last year's graphs that 9914

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,000 was actually part of your
unassigned in this so I corrected that

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this year uh so you guys can see what
the unassigned really should have looked

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like because you assigned all that
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budget so what happened during the year
well first we're going to take a look at

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the revenue budget the actual so overall
I want to point out uh the first thing I

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want to point out is this utilization of
Prior year Surplus if you guys were the

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perfect budgeters both town and school
side and everything came out to the

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money you guys were on the money on
everything your fund balance would have

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went down by that 1 million1
14,000 actually increased by almost a

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million instead so that's what I want to
talk about um so we're going to talk

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about some of these large variances here
taxes uh you had better than expected

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tax collections for exis uh and and
regular taxes and and I you know it it

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was kind of up and down throughout the
state uh I think it all depended on due

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dates uh for property taxes in a lot of
cases um your due date was March I

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believe March 5th was your third one so
that was kind of before the pandemic hit

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and then you had enough collections in
July and August to make up for anything

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that was missed at year end and excise
taxes went uh kind of smooth uh

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throughout so and there was a book you
booked a bit of a receivable not nothing

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major uh but since you uh since the
governor decided to push the due date

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out for your taxes uh excise taxes
anything that was collected in July and

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August were book back as receivables uh
for items that were due for those months

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for excise tax so that's why I didn't
see a hit taken on those uh

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intergovernmental came in over budget
you got more State education subsidy and

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state revenue sharing than
anticipated uh charges for services uh

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most of that incre uh above budget was
due to uh increase in your sewer fees uh

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so you collected more sewer than was
originally budgeted uh investment

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earnings uh un there unbudgeted at the
school which was 61,000 so that's what

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makes up almost all of that uh variance
and then other revenues big number here

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we're talking 1 million now if you
remember you thought you were going to

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you budgeted to sell the crow rope
building in

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2019 uh so that year came in under uh
and so this year now other revenues is

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over because you sold that cro portion
of the crow roope building to Johnny

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seeds I believe uh but you also had some
rent collected for the first couple

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months of that year uh before you did
sell the building so you seen a positive

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variance in not only sale of uh
town-owned property uh you also seen it

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in rental payments because those weren't
expected because you thought again you

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uh thought the sale was going to happen
you budgeted for the sale to happen in

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2019 so that's where you're making up a
gigantic chunk uh of uh that fund

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balance increase is just sitting in
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portion uh on the expenditure side um
everything came in pretty close um

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public works over uh due to unexpected
repairs and some ice control exceeded

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projections on that uh other includes
contingency and overlay uh so if you

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don't use those full amounts that kind
of Falls to a positive variance and then

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education came in under budget and I'm
seeing this across the state as well

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because they were shut down for pretty
much the last two and a half months of

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the school year um under budget they had
some Savings in wages special educ

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and some Transportation costs which all
makes sense um Debt Service came in

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under uh that was budgeted before the
issuance of the new new debt I believe

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and so that's why youve seen a variance
there that was also on the school side

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and then transfer to other funds is uh a
portion of what the school funds school

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lunch and uh where the general fund
where you uh budget to put money in your

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Capital Improvement fund for capital
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un assigned fund balances a percentage
of budget I think this is a really good

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uh tool to look at to kind of know where
you're at um again I I adjusted 2019

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down to include where you had that
assignment of fund balance so you could

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see that from 2018 to 2019 took a big
dip and then you climbed back up in 2020

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um you know the big dips coming because
of the budgeted use of fund balance uh

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you guys didn't budget to use fund
balance for multiple years there and

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then budgeted to use
94,000 in uh in 2020 which would affect

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that 2019 number and then in 2020
budgeted to use 700,000 for that fy21

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budget so rating agencies are looking at
you know around 20% to have um RKO we

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always recommend 12 and a half to 16%
which is like one and a half to two

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months uh on hand uh right now you're
sitting and I like to compare it with

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just Town only and then including that
school deficit you can see that they've

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re really narrowed the Gap because that
deficit on the school side is is down to

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only
71,000 so uh but right now you're

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sitting at around 11% uh or 10.3% uh
when you're taking the school into

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account so increases over the prior year
but that makes sense because your fund

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balance as a whole went up uh almost a
million dollars from the prior

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year next two slides uh just kind of
showing your general than this is Ray

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Karen I just want to reiterate with the
fund balance is that you're saying that

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because of the C sale Revenue sharing
and the less of a deficit at the school

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system that the budgeted $700,000 out of
the fund balance is actually a positive

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that we're not going to use that money
this year is that correct no well I you

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kind of got to go back one other year so
you budgeted to use

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94,000 in this year for fy20 what we're
talking about and the school budgeted to

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use a $100,000 so you budgeted to use a
million dollars of fund balance um in

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fy20 you gained a million instead and a
big chunk of that is selling the cow

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rope building getting some extra rental
payments on that Crow Ro building

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Revenue sharing and the uh education
subsidy coming in over and then savings

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on the budget side on the

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school so general fund Revenue
distribution we just take a look at

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taxes versus intergovernmental which is
basically taxes are your local that

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property taxes and excise taxes uh
versus intergovernmental which includes

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state revenue sharing homestead
exemption Betty exemption uh your local

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Road from mot uh those monies um you can
see it's held pretty steady at the Town

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um you know 2016 you're 52.2 one% 2020
you're 52.2 22% so you went up 0.01% uh

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difference in those between those five
years intergovernmental went down a bit

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but I think it's it's not that the
monies went down it's the collections of

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other revenues that have gone up um you
know a lot more of the other Revenue in

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fy20 because again the sell that Crow
rope building you know they gained a lot

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of of funding in that portion now when
we take a look at school

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only you could see a pretty big change
now now granted you got to look at the

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scale um so I think the scale on it
makes it look a little bit bigger than

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it was than it is but between 2016 in
2020 you're looking at almost a 3%

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increase uh relying on local and then on
intergovernmental you'll see it was

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around 48.4 2 C 20 in 2016 down to
45.74 you see a drastic decrease in that

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intergovernmental in 2019 and 2020
because of other types of revenues uh

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that the school was gathering uh those
years they have a lot of shared services

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that they get reimbursed for uh which
are uh marked down as Revenue but I do

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wanted to point out I got some numbers
written down here that aren't on here

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that I kind of want to go over to point
out the increase in local appropriation

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for the school uh in fy19 you saw an
increase of your local appropriation to

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the school of 600,000 and then another
800,000 in fy20 so over the prior two

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years there's been an increase of 1.4
million uh in your local appropriation

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for education on the intergovernmental
side we saw a $300,000 increase in F y

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20 and a $250,000 increase in fy19 for
total of

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$550,000 increase over those two years
so local went up 1.4 million State

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funding went up only 550 so that's why
you're seeing uh the one bar graph go up

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and the other bar graph go down uh also
fy19 I wanted to point out had that

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payout when the aos92 uh dissolved and
then you got a withdraw payment for that

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that was recognized in

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fy19 so these next two next two graphs
I'm going to kind of flip back and forth

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so it's a pie chart comparing 2020 to
2019 and you're going to see there's

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really not a lot of difference but
education you'll see went from

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61.97 down to 59.71 now it's kind of
tricky though because you'll see this

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Debt Service piece of the pie over here
went from 3.9 to 5.4 so basically all

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most of that Debt Service increase was
that education it's it's the new Bond uh

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that you're paying so even though
education as a whole chunk went down

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really the increase kind of went to that
Debt Service which is still education

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related so I think the the pi stay the
same uh the only other uh fairly large

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increase was protection went from
6.25% up to about 6.9 so you're looking

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at uh 3/4 of per increase there a big
chunk of that was just mostly fire

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department um and I want to if and if
you guys for those of you who love to

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read the financial statements um a lot
more information is on exhibit A2 uh

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which are Pages 56 to 59 and you will
see all your budget to actuals in much

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more detail than what was what we show
in here um it shows you a comparison to

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Prior year so you could see the
differences between what you collected

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last year and this year and what you
spent last year and this year and the

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same thing in the school financials they
have an exhibit A2 and it's on page 16

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of their financials and you know if you
want to look at these uh revenues and

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expenditures in more detail I would
really um really suggest checking out

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those pages in the financial statements
because they're very descriptive and you

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get a really good look at what makes up
all those bounces especially in those

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revenue and expenditure uh tables I
shown you before you know it breaks

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everything down protection it'll show
you police fire emergency all in those

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financial statements so very much
suggest uh checking those

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out and last but not least uh the school
lunch has been running a deficit for a

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while now and that could put a hurt uh
hurting on your cash flow um but you

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could see that school lunch went from a
$28,000 deficit to a

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$96,000 deficit uh over this last year
the biggest reason it's not like they

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had a magical formula well Tech wasn't a
magical formula for fy20 but when school

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closed the everybody started going off
the summer food program and the summer

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food program had much larger
reimbursement rates than the regular

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school lunch program uh I seen this
around the state where just the

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collections for that uh Federal money
for for school lunch because it pretty

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much were G everybody was just giving
out free lunches over those time periods

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but you're getting reimbursed at a much
higher rate than what you normally do

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for free lunches when you're serving
them in school school so that extra

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Revenue helped knock down this
deficit so good thing that happened

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because of that you know if I'm going to
pick like a silver lining of 2020 I'd

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say is that collection rates to really
knock down that deficit in that school

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lunch
account so that's all I have for graphs

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and I'll be glad to flip to any graph if
anybody's got any specific questions

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about anything and and try to walk you
through whatever or give you all the

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answers you need

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no thank you very much Hank I I don't
think does anybody have any questions

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for Hank at this point in

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time I just want to say thank
Youk a very Dr subject made it actually

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everybody appreciate

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that I could not hear you Erica you were
coming in very

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low I'm so sorry can you hear me now
little bit

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better I don't know why you can't but
anyway because I'm leaning into my

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computer I just wanted to say thank you
for taking a very dry subject and making

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it somewhat interesting for everybody um
it's not easy to present Financial

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reports and you know have people
actually pay attention yeah it's it's

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it's never that easy but you know before
I want to say thank you to the staff

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both on the town and school side and I
kind of started out that way this has

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been a rough year for everybody um and
auditing it's not like the audits were

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ever going to stop you know and and if
anything you know there should be more

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due diligence when you're going through
something like this because you know the

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controls could easily break down uh
during the processes that happened in

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2020 and I want to let everybody know
that we did our sample sizes where we

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picked portions of the sample size
before covid and after covid to make

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sure things were still being handled
properly at both the town and the school

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so that was one thing we made sure we
did and I'll say both Tanya and Paula

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and everybody else who helped out on the
talent School side did a wonderful job

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we really didn't miss a beat uh with
this audit which I thought was pretty

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amazing because like I said a lot of
struggles and a lot of just craziness

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and just
accessibility uh this year uh it just

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caused problems but didn't really have
any issues on either side so we still

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got this done in a timely fashion I'm
glad I could come up and present in

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December and I wanted to thank everybody
and I guess if no one else has any

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questions I'm going to go feel sad about
not having Big G's but you know I think

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I still had a pretty good meeting with
everybody yeah thank you very much you

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know I was expecting a lot of gloom and
doom tonight but I think overall it was

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a very positive type of setting it sets
us up for at least some some type of a

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some type of a better budget season than
I anticipated for this coming spring I

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think the only thing and I don't know
for certain because I don't have any

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numbers but my big thing is I think you
know a lot of places I seen in fy20

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especially schools had savings this year
because of the the shutdowns what I

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think's going to happen though is I'd
caution everybody because I'd be worried

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about state revenue sharing and State
education subsidy and

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fy22 um because we don't know what of
taxes are going to roll in we you know

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everything's been hit here Hospitality
you know all those taxes have to be down

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they have to be um so you know I would
caution the one thing is you just those

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numbers aren't out yet but you know I
can't see how they're not going to take

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a hit after what we've gone through and
and the lack of Tourism and the lack of

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people going out and eating and things
like that so um no gloom and doom this

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year for these financials but I I'm
going to be S I'm going to be very

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curious how fy22 turns out not 21 yeah
but if I if I look at your report today

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you know with the we had the potential
to start a million dollars in the whole

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and right now because of revenues and
sales of town-owned property some

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Revenue sharing we've pretty much
negated that that hole that we that we

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would have now in starting off and you
know at least compounded with Revenue

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sharing and school subsidies we know
they're going to be less but at least

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we're not compounded by a million dollar
deficit starting off in the process

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NOP

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agreed if we don't have anything else uh
I think we're all said Hank thank you

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very much all right thanks for having me
have a great rest of your meeting okay

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see you

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Rocky moving on to reports of committees
and commissions uh the town manager

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report please

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can't hear you

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Erica oh again my

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can anybody else hear
Erica microphone's not working I can't

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hear I can't hear either it comes in and
out I can't hear her either you want to

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come here or and I can

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leave Erica if you're in a hotel you may
be having bandwidth problems if you turn

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off your video you may we may be able to
hear you

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better I've had that problem with
clients in the

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past Kate she's at the town office

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well that won't

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work maybe maybe

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not I
know somebody else is using my

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microphone that's why

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no
problem what we're going to do is we're

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going to go on to department head
reports and then uh we'll come back uh

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when Erica has that fixed um I know that
Erica had asked the department heads to

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come in and just give an update of where
the town uh situation stands now and if

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we could do first Lisa could you give a
uh a little

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uh example of what's happening in the
front office absolutely um we actually

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had a meeting today to talk with our
staff in the front office they are doing

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a great job keeping up with
transactions um people are either

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calling the office um or emailing and um
they're all able to keep up with

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everything if somebody needs a receipt
uh we're mailing those out to Residents

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uh keeping up with Motor Vehicle
registrations we have a lot of services

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that are available online so if you need
to re-register your car or snowmobile um

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ATV that can all be done online dog
licenses we can do through the mail or

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at our
Dropbox um and as well as new vehicle

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registrations those can also uh be done
through the Dropbox so it's business as

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usual it's a little um it's a little
different but we're they're all getting

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it done and they're doing a great
job thank you very much

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Lisa Judy could you give a an update on
the assessing sure Ken um

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fortunately uh it's a quiet time for the
assessor's office so we typically dig

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into projects and this is probably the
best time to have started digging into

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actually digitizing most of our records
in the office as we speak a lot of the

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business that we do conduct and have
been conducting is digital it's uh

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requests for deed copies or map copies
and we've got the tools to do that every

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anything else is phone calls um I'll
meet somebody outside if I have to but I

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have stopped actually going to a home to
pick up new construction it's just not

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safe and I will probably be using more
correspondence through uh postage um as

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the spring comes around so it's I think
we've kind of acclimated ourselves to

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how to conduct business at this point so
it's really going smoothly for our

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office thank you thank you very much
Judy Paul Public

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Works uh right now public works so we've
done we've split the crew up in two I've

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taken over the other part of the parks
and W department at the other end so

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we've set up two break rooms with half a
crew at each end we've got them a fridge

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or microwave coffee maker so that's
basically where they're going to spend

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the winter so we're trying to keep the
crews working as much as possible one

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crew separate from the other it's not
perfect but it's as best as we can do I

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think we've got them as well separated
this weekend and we'll carry on until

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hopefully uh nobody gets ill and you'll
see later on we're also doing some work

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trying to get Mutual Aid with different
communities in case something does

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happen so that's about where we are
right

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now so Paul that Mutual Aid in case
there's an outbreak at your office that

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Waterville would come over and help us
with the streets correct that would be

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like Waterville Fairfield Oakland uh get
some assistance that's or or vice versa

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if we go there so that's just something
we're trying to be proactive hopefully

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we don't have to do anything but at
least uh unfortunately unlike say fire

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Mutual Aid where you know the chance of
having two big fires in two communities

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together is is rare if it snows it's
gonna snow everywhere so we're do the

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best we can to help each other out okay
is that it Paul Paul it is

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yes uh this is jury question I have do
we have uh a mechanic at each those

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locations in the break rooms yes we
do that's all okay moving on Lisa

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Library hi all um well you know we've um
established curbside pick up five days a

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week and so patrons can request
materials either through the catalog via

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email or phone call we're also doing a
lot of reference questions through the

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catalog or email patrons seem to um be
very comfortable using our curbside

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pickup we've been very busy the last
since we started and um they seem to be

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happy with some of the online and
take-home programming we've been doing

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um we did our little our winter Workshop
um as a socially distance event a few

417
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:58,680
weeks ago and we had 70 people
participate um all safely all what we

418
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:04,000
did is we begged up different kinds of
crafts goodies some little things they'd

419
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:08,000
come to the door we'd leave them on the
book drop they'd take them home and we

420
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:17,000
got a lot of very positive feedback on
that um so overall the the patron seem

421
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:21,839
to be adapting very well um we the only
negative thing we've had recently is um

422
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:28,079
we got a little storm damage from the
last big Windstorm uh the siding blew

423
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:32,560
off the the the part of the quet Hut
that's behind the Heating units on the

424
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:36,880
roof um but that's been covered over now
and I'm working um to get some quotes

425
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:43,800
and working with the insurance company
so thank you for Paul for helping out

426
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:47,839
out with that um but overall the patrons
have been wonderful the girls working at

427
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,400
the library have been wonderful we're
just very

428
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,640
blessed okay thank you very much Lisa
Amanda

429
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,319
pcking
question of Lisa

430
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:11,119
yeah uh which insurance company is that
the one through made me this yes it is I

431
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:17,040
filed the claim and I already talked to
the adjuster and we're just basically he

432
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:21,480
came and looked at everything and I'm
just waiting to get some quotes and then

433
00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:27,599
we'll go I I'll send those off to the
main Municipal again and we'll go from

434
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:32,720
there Amanda pck and wreck please
he there um so Parks obviously is

435
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:36,280
inherently a social Department um so
we've had to get very creative uh if

436
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,440
anyone has se me in an elf costume
around town at residents houses I'm

437
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,560
doing pickups for our caring campaign um
it's our third year doing it we raise um

438
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:48,000
food and funds for the school's food
pantry um residents have been great

439
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:53,000
about calling me up I've been picking
them up door stop with masks on they

440
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:56,839
leave it on the door stop um we also are
looking at some virtual programming the

441
00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:01,760
rec center is closed by appointment only
and everyone has been really respectful

442
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:05,400
of that um I was hoping to start some
type of programming in January but

443
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:09,720
looking at the numbers and the direction
that's heading and wanting to support

444
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:15,280
the school and keeping kids and cohorts
I don't anticipate starting um inperson

445
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:19,240
programming in January um we're looking
at doing some social distancing

446
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:23,720
scavenger hunts this winter some snowman
contest and and trying to think outside

447
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:27,000
the box in terms of wreck um right now
I'm the only person in the department so

448
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,319
I don't have to worry about infecting
any body or staying socially distanced

449
00:41:29,319 --> 00:41:38,880
from my immediate co-workers and that's
it okay thank thank you very much Amanda

450
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:44,599
uh Chief Rodriguez uh fire
department oh good evening uh we're

451
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:50,359
doing pretty good uh we just received a
huge supply of

452
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:55,800
PPE uh I mandated probably I want to two
weeks ago that we would close the

453
00:41:52,560 --> 00:42:02,280
department down to outside guests uh to
limit the spread

454
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:06,800
we um as we respond we uh we treat every
patient in every circumstance as though

455
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:13,920
it's a positive covid that you know
we're wearing our our masks our um uh

456
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:18,280
eye protection gloves and if necessary
after the pre-screening at the door we

457
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:24,720
will gown up so we're we're doing uh
very proactive measures to to keep our

458
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:31,839
members safe U because if we get uh one
down that's a shift and that would be

459
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:36,920
detrial to us um part of our PPE Supply
took the initiative and ordered and we

460
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:43,680
have received a Victor electrostatic
sprayer which helps um um uh

461
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:49,920
decontaminate the back of the medic unit
and um some good news uh again we

462
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:54,079
submitted the uh covid reimbursement
Grant to FEMA and that has been

463
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:58,119
processed and we're waiting to hear the
positive news from that but uh they they

464
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:02,319
would not have move forward with it if
it was not um uh a positive if they

465
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:06,920
didn't think it was going to be a
positive result so fire department's

466
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:12,160
doing very well thank you Ronnie how do
you like the new trucks I love them

467
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:17,520
thank you very much you know they're
they're fantastic thank you they've been

468
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:21,720
oh and by the way uh they've all been uh
taken to rust Che and had the

469
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:28,119
undercoding already
applied okay thank thank you very much

470
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:32,920
Chief one one question please yep is the
new ladder in service yet Chief or are

471
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,720
we still on hold with that it is not in
service yet because we are we had to

472
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,960
wait for some parts to build out the
compartments to move the equipment from

473
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:45,240
the old ladder truck to the new one but
it is everybody has had their training

474
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:50,839
and we're just waiting to uh to get the
appropriate uh shelving equipment to to

475
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:58,040
place the equipment on there safely okay
thank you yes sir thank thank you Jeff

476
00:43:54,240 --> 00:44:05,839
uh Adam codes I'm not sure Adam's on
hello oh I yes can you hear me yep we

477
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:11,480
can okay yeah uh everything's going
quite well in the code enforcement

478
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:16,240
office uh we're able to utilize the
permits electronically so uh it's pretty

479
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:24,160
much business as
usual uh haven't had too many problems

480
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:29,119
or issues with doing it that way uh
permits have slowed down but it is when

481
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:34,079
so that's
expected uh but beyond that everything

482
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:34,079
is going

483
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:42,680
good okay thank you very much Adam for
that uh we're going to go back now to

484
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:47,359
the uh I think we've hit every
Department if we can go back to the uh

485
00:44:45,319 --> 00:44:52,240
Town manager's report we'll see if she's
you haven't hit the police department oh

486
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:58,400
I am very sorry sorry about that thanks
man uh Chief McCade evening how every

487
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:03,880
every do um yes things are going well
with us also um I in the report I

488
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:06,760
submitted I talked about um we're still
waiting for reimbursing for a couple

489
00:45:05,319 --> 00:45:12,280
grants at this point and hopefully be
coming in shortly also um we're wrapping

490
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:17,760
up the hiring process hopefully it'll be
done within a month and we all completed

491
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:22,359
our end of the year training U we had
some concerning news today about two

492
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:27,760
employees here who might have had
contact with um covid-19 they've both

493
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:32,520
taken the test and we're just waiting
for results and um one employee had

494
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:36,760
contact with quite a few of us um nobody
else has shown an intance but we're just

495
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,480
waiting at this point but other than
that things are going

496
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:51,400
well thank you very much Chief and again
uh from the whole toown and from the

497
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:55,359
staff here uh welcome aboard and uh I'm
sure you guys are busy and going through

498
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,440
a trying time in the next couple months
but hey r

499
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:05,319
go ahead
Jeff how about uh school department I

500
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:12,960
could see if they're there uh Peter
tibat are you in today I am in

501
00:46:10,359 --> 00:46:17,440
Okay yeah your teachers continue to work
extremely hard at educating your

502
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:22,240
students whether that be remotely or in
person unfortunately right now we have

503
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:28,520
both the high school and the junior high
who are in remote learning due to an

504
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:32,240
incident that took place last week
unfortunately because of furer I cannot

505
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:36,960
disclose a lot of information which is
very frustrating to me but I can tell

506
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,839
you that the Transmissions are not
happening at

507
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:44,720
school uh due to the protocols that we
have in place unfortunately the

508
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,720
Transmissions are happening into the
community and those are being brought

509
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:54,920
into the
schools um I hear a lot of you talking

510
00:46:52,079 --> 00:47:00,640
about grants through Co money we we also
have benefited from from some that money

511
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:06,079
um there's a very strict timeline in
terms of when you had to spend it and

512
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:10,240
have everything invoiced and right there
um all had to be things that were not

513
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:17,240
budget related things that were related
to covid so things such as outdoor

514
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:21,400
classrooms or um let's say you can't
have a regular gym class and you didn't

515
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:26,119
have CrossCountry skis you know you
could purchase Cross Country Skis to get

516
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:30,400
the kids outside for gym for alternative
activities those types of things so

517
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:35,119
we've put a lot of energy in that mostly
from laptops Chromebooks in order to be

518
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,480
able to to make that happen we very
fortunate we've purchased three school

519
00:47:36,839 --> 00:47:42,400
buses with this money which is going to
be a great help to

520
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:50,480
us so we've been able to do that on a
really fast track um so a lot is a lot

521
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:54,960
is happening we continue to to look at
different scenarios on a daily basis in

522
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:59,440
terms of who we need to isolate and
quarantine if we need to sometimes it's

523
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:05,760
just a few students sometimes it's it's
more than a few but it's been a very uh

524
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:09,599
trying year and um we continue to get
through it and I'm very proud of the

525
00:48:07,319 --> 00:48:13,319
Educators for providing the education
that they're providing to your children

526
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:17,200
under these
circumstances Peter I got one question

527
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:24,359
for
you Peter I'm here Ben okay uh somebody

528
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:30,280
asked me the enrollment that you have
this year compared to last year is as

529
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:33,480
far as the numbers go 10,27 about 50
less than we had last year and the

530
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:39,160
reason for that Ben is because some of
the kids are gone to homeschool

531
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:46,280
homeschooling um because of the concern
of um covid-19 having said that this is

532
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:50,520
a Statewide issue almost every school is
reporting a lower enrollment from the

533
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:54,520
October counts and this is something
that the state is going to need to look

534
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:59,280
at they're having conversations about
how they can look at the formula for

535
00:48:56,599 --> 00:49:04,040
that that um but every single school is
going to be in that situation thank you

536
00:49:01,799 --> 00:49:08,839
Peter you're
welcome

537
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:08,839
Peter

538
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:24,160
on on our six grade and the uh daycare
how was that going home run Jerry

539
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:29,119
absolute home run when we had to um go
remote with the junior high and the high

540
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:34,799
school it's because we have some shared
space um the individual who tested

541
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:40,079
positive um we weren't told about that
individual until after the kids were in

542
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:45,799
school so it was way too difficult for
us to do contract contact tracing and be

543
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:53,280
100% positive on every individual so the
safe the safest thing to do with the CDC

544
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:58,079
recommendations was to um you know go go
remote for the quarantine period of time

545
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:02,520
have having said that because of our
sixth grade is in a separate building

546
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:07,480
totally isolated so there they continue
to operate no issues whatsoever same

547
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:13,760
with the daycare um so both of those
things worked exactly like we wanted

548
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,760
them to work so it's going exceptionally

549
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:20,359
well any other questions for Peter by
the way that's that's another one of

550
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:25,880
those situations where we use some of
this covid money to be able to pay for

551
00:50:22,839 --> 00:50:29,520
the heat um it's not out of the regular
budget cuz we didn't have have any money

552
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:36,359
to do
that any other questions for

553
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:41,359
Peter if no questions for Peter Erica
could you try

554
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,359
again can you hear me

555
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:49,880
now I'm echoing through through Rays so
I'm guessing you

556
00:50:45,799 --> 00:50:55,119
can um so what I was trying to say the
first time is we've survived that first

557
00:50:52,240 --> 00:51:00,920
snowstorm um after seven years in the
South I did not kill myself that first

558
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:05,119
night so uh big kudos to myself but I
did want to say thank you to our Public

559
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:09,240
Works guys our fire guys and our police
guys because um it was a pretty hefty

560
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:15,359
storm for the first one of the year and
everybody did a great job uh nothing but

561
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:18,720
good reports from outside so uh good job
everybody uh tell your Crews what a

562
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:23,920
great job they did I'm pretty sure I
told most of you already but doesn't

563
00:51:20,799 --> 00:51:29,240
hurt to reiterate that um obviously
we're we're still closed due to covid

564
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:33,280
and uh Lisa already pretty much told you
how we're making sure residents get

565
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:37,160
addressed uh all of their concerns and
making sure that everybody can get

566
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:41,720
access to the services they need uh
nobody's being told that they can't pay

567
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:45,160
their tax bill or they can't register uh
their vehicle or that they can't get a

568
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:50,040
dog license everybody is being taken
care of so uh I I did find out today

569
00:51:48,359 --> 00:51:54,240
that part of the reason people may have
thought that is because apparently

570
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:59,839
Sunday before this last uh the paper
printed that we were all working remote

571
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:04,200
um which clearly we are not so I have
asked um I've asked the editor to put a

572
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,960
correction in the paper and make sure
everybody knows we are actually here

573
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:14,280
we're coming in every day uh that said
um we've got some challenges as Chief

574
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:19,200
McDade indicated we've got a staff
member down there uh with a potential

575
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:24,240
contact we also have one up here in our
offices with a potential um contact the

576
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:28,240
the thing is the timing of those
contacts kind of means if if there was

577
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,160
an exposure kind of the damage has been
done at least we're keeping it within a

578
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:37,319
small group of people so we'll wait to
see what those covid tests come back

579
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:42,240
with and um have people test further if
necessary you know fingers crossed that

580
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:46,839
things come back okay but it just points
out how real this is right now and how

581
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:51,920
many people are getting infected it's
coming closer and closer to home every

582
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:55,160
day so uh we do need to remain Vigilant
about keeping those masks on and and

583
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:59,000
keeping socially distanced and limiting
our contact with the public

584
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:03,240
um and it's a particular challenge for
our people trying to make sure that the

585
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:06,480
public is served so uh if you see those
three ladies who work up in the front

586
00:53:04,799 --> 00:53:09,799
office please give them your thanks they
deserve it they've been running pretty

587
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:16,119
hard to make sure everybody's taken care
of um I also wanted to point out real

588
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:22,040
quickly Our Town tree in the Gazebo uh
it's a pretty you know quick effort this

589
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:24,839
year we didn't think of it too soon but
just something to try and help lift

590
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:29,599
everybody's Spirits we don't have a
whole lot of holiday spirit going on

591
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:34,119
right now um so just something to try
but that was a joint effort between

592
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:37,920
Amanda mastan and Judy matau Judy
provided the tree and also all of the

593
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,559
greenery that's around our sign out
front so I want to thank both of them

594
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:45,799
for making that happen uh it turned out
really pretty and uh next year I hope we

595
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:50,559
can do something even bigger out
there um so on to the the other thing I

596
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,520
wanted to tell you guys real quick about
where we are on the sale of our

597
00:53:52,119 --> 00:54:00,000
properties um we do have multiple
properties up for sale right now

598
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:06,640
uh currently minol Lane has got a active
offer on it um I also have an active

599
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:10,079
offer on Clinton Avenue uh Clinton's low
so we're going to counter on that one

600
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:15,319
but the one for minol Lane is a full
price offer so uh if we get that one in

601
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:19,440
at 40,000 and we can come in in about
50,000 on Clinton Avenue that's a nice

602
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:25,319
little extra bit of money we weren't
expecting um 55 Ellis Road will also be

603
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:28,599
going up although there is um that one
unfortunately will be well below its

604
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:33,280
assessment value just because the
condition of the house that's on it is

605
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:38,680
uh pretty poor but still it will be well
above what is owed in the back taxes um

606
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:43,400
Maple Ridge Farm bid is out there that
will close on the 29th of December

607
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,559
that's a little bit longer for a bid to
be out there than usual but the

608
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:50,839
reasoning behind that is people are
going to have a lot of questions about

609
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:54,119
that main Farmland trust issue and we
need to give them time to actually

610
00:54:52,319 --> 00:54:58,640
contact the main Farmland trust and find
out if they're even eligible to bid on

611
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:02,960
the property so um put that out there a
little bit longer at 3 weeks instead of

612
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:09,000
two again the minimum bid on that's
$85,000 so hopefully um hopefully things

613
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:12,880
come in on that and we we see more than
the 85 there has been a lot of interest

614
00:55:10,799 --> 00:55:19,079
in it I'm just not 100% sure how much of
it is interest um that meets the

615
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:23,480
requirements the main Farmland trust um
we do have the paperwork written up for

616
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:28,799
the China Road lots that were going over
to Tom Davis and Betty and Davis just

617
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:32,799
waiting on their final signature and uh
them to pay their fees and we'll

618
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:37,079
transfer it over that will be another
$112,000 and we have some interest in a

619
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:41,880
property that was up for sale that we
couldn't sell which is uh South Reynolds

620
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:47,200
Road Lot 3H apparently sales fell
through on that for three times um so

621
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,400
right now we've gotten a butter who's
interested so we may be able to at least

622
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:55,640
recoup the back taxes on the property
even though we weren't um weren't able

623
00:55:53,319 --> 00:55:59,839
to sell it for any extra on that point
it would be good to just be able to um

624
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:04,960
to get something out of it so it's off
of our books um we'll see what happens

625
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:10,079
there um the only bad news I really have
on the property sales Is Belleview Road

626
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Lot 7 we can't sell it um it's been the
towns for a long time that's not a tax

627
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:20,319
acquired property but um unfortunately
the deed from 1951 says that we can only

628
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:24,760
use it as a public park and therefore we
cannot really sell it at this point um I

629
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,960
do have Bill Lee looking into whether we
can have the deed amended um to see if

630
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,760
how much that would cost and if it's
even worth it to do so we'll look into

631
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:37,680
that more down the road but right now it
is not going up to Market so it's kind

632
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:41,960
of a dead issue at the moment um the
Orion rope Works building that continues

633
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:47,240
to be uh in progress we have a meeting
on Thursday with the gentleman from

634
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:50,559
Orion rope Works um to talk about what
their proposal is going to be we've also

635
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:55,079
had some further interest finally from
Johnny seeds Dave melhorn finally

636
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,520
contacted me on Friday said he never got
my email about it so

637
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:03,000
I'll be talking with him as well and
seeing what his ideas are um just so I'm

638
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,920
on record of saying this though and I
have said this to Dave melhorn I want

639
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:10,079
both businesses to stay not interested
in doing anything that's going to cause

640
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:15,079
one or the other business to leave I
think we need both of them in town um we

641
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:21,079
are we do have some Vehicles going up
for sale uh we're just kind of we've got

642
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:24,680
to wait for the ladder truck um to go up
because of course until we get that new

643
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:31,039
one in service we kind of need the old
one um so so that will go up as well as

644
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:36,760
our rescue um selling the rescue that's
due to having the ambulance service and

645
00:57:34,359 --> 00:57:41,160
we need to have that extra Bay in
preparation for uh completing out the

646
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,880
original proposal to get a second
ambulance so both of those will be going

647
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:49,119
up to public
auction and uh we anticipate after

648
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,280
talking to the auctioner that we should
be getting some fair amount of money

649
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:57,400
back on those hopefully at least uh at
least a 100,000 between the two of them

650
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:01,799
but probably more
um project updates Benton Avenue storm

651
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:06,000
sewer that closes the bid opening will
be this week um so we're going to be

652
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:09,720
moving forward on that uh hopefully
we'll end up with one contractor on both

653
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:15,039
our portion of the project and the water
districts but we may not um we have been

654
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:18,920
promised by Wright Pierce that they can
uh coordinate the engineering such that

655
00:58:17,319 --> 00:58:22,280
we shouldn't have any problems if we do
end up with two contractors but

656
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:28,160
obviously in an Ideal World world it
would be just one and chaffy Brook Pump

657
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:32,200
Station um you'll see that we do have a
res or an order I'm sorry up on that one

658
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:37,000
um We are continuing through the
permitting process uh we did have the

659
00:58:34,839 --> 00:58:42,200
archaeological survey come back and find
evidence of a potential site so we're

660
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:47,799
going to have to do a phase two um study
on that which is unfortunate but it is

661
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:51,960
what it is uh it's one one little spot
out of all the spots they dug showed

662
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:56,319
that we could have something there um
anticipated cost on that is going to be

663
00:58:53,480 --> 00:59:01,960
$1,893
um the survey for the uh the sturgeon

664
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:06,079
the bom metric survey that was completed
uh so there's not going to be any more

665
00:59:03,319 --> 00:59:09,680
to go on that um but this final stage of
Permitting is the one you have the order

666
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:14,119
for in front of you tonight that's
58,000 it is part of the original 5

667
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:18,799
million project so I just want everybody
to understand we're not asking for

668
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:22,359
58,000 in additional money uh the the
orders out there to allow me to actually

669
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:27,280
tell them to move forward and that we
can pay for that when the bill comes

670
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:32,920
in other that we've just got some
discussion items coming up this evening

671
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:35,960
which all of you would have seen um and
that's pretty much all I've got for you

672
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:45,440
right
now Erica yes Jerry

673
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:51,440
when when is the bid opening on um for S
and water on Benton Avenue 11 o'clock

674
00:59:49,799 --> 00:59:56,880
Friday
morning is that open to the public or

675
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:01,760
are we going to do is zoom
it's going to be zoom and it will only

676
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:06,920
be uh the contractors that have bid on
the project as well as right Pierce and

677
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:11,760
ourselves over here it will either be
Paul and I or it will be Paul and Lisa I

678
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:15,880
also have a home closing coming up on
Friday and I'm not sure exactly what

679
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:19,480
time it's going to be um so there is a
possibility I will not be able to be

680
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:30,400
present I'm
all Erica um on the Orion

681
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:36,839
building any word back
from um cwell

682
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:42,039
Banker uh Don has said that pretty much
he's been working with the broker for

683
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:47,480
Orion for the most part um Johnny's did
reach out to him and again Johnny's

684
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:52,880
reached out to me the same day so that's
pretty much where we're at on that right

685
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:56,200
now um we haven't had any other firm
interest at this point I just didn't

686
01:00:54,760 --> 01:01:00,119
know if that gentleman that had me the
original offer was still was Don was

687
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:04,119
going to check into that see if he might
still be interested correct he has not

688
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:08,599
given me any further information on that
so I don't think he's got that okay

689
01:01:06,839 --> 01:01:12,760
thank
you it's um Chief Rodriguez is your hand

690
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,559
actually
raised it is do you want to

691
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:28,160
recognize Mr chairman I I I appreciate
the quick second I just I failed to

692
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:32,960
mention that tomorrow the Rees Across
America Caravan will be coming through

693
01:01:29,799 --> 01:01:36,640
the town of Winslow and we'll be uh
stopping at the vet's Memorial off red

694
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:40,160
Rodrick Road and I just wanted to make
sure that I've put it out on the

695
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:44,599
Facebook page I know uh the police
department has done the same and I know

696
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:50,039
it's been shared uh quite extensively I
just wanted to make sure that um I

697
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:50,039
mentioned it here thank

698
01:01:51,319 --> 01:01:59,640
you thank thank you very much uh you all
I am

699
01:01:56,839 --> 01:02:05,039
if there's no excuse me Ray yes go ahead
Jeff um just a question for chief McDade

700
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:09,079
uh do you have a contingency plan if
something is to go south

701
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:16,799
downstairs well we should more know more
of this week um of course we work

702
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:22,319
closely with other police department I
don't think it'll get to that point but

703
01:02:18,359 --> 01:02:29,599
if it does we we have contact Poli okay
I just I assume that's the route we go

704
01:02:25,279 --> 01:02:29,599
but okay thank you sir yes thank

705
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:36,240
you if there's no further questions
we'll move on to the public comment

706
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:41,640
period the public comment period is we
advertise that if somebody had a public

707
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:45,880
comment that they wanted to read over uh
tonight's meeting that it would be

708
01:02:43,319 --> 01:02:50,440
submitted by 12: noon today there were
five public comments and I'll read them

709
01:02:48,119 --> 01:02:55,200
in order that they were
received the first one is from Ken

710
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:59,279
Fletcher on the gallet road please
provide the f following information when

711
01:02:57,079 --> 01:03:04,359
order number
272020 is considered for the second

712
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:08,559
ambulance is a reason to purchase a
second ambulance because a backup

713
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:13,200
ambulance is needed if the existing
ambulance is out of service because of

714
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:17,960
Maintenance second question during the
last five months how many times and for

715
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:23,000
what total duration has a Winslow fire
department ambulance been out of service

716
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:27,160
due to maintenance excuse me question
number three from July to October the

717
01:03:25,319 --> 01:03:32,640
winds fire department monthly report
identified a total of 30 instances while

718
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:36,920
Delta was required to provide Mutual Aid
how many of these instances were because

719
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:41,240
the windso fire department ambulance was
out of service due the maintenance

720
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:48,480
question four what will be the source of
funds used to furnish the 7 $70,000 plus

721
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:55,039
requested to purchase a second ambulance
net gains from the ambulance tro service

722
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:58,640
account or other question five when will
there be space to store the second

723
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:04,520
ambulance in the existing fire
department structure uh question six

724
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:08,119
Cons considering that a six-month review
of the Winslow fire department Ambulance

725
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:14,000
Service results and planned for the
January 2021 council meeting why is it

726
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:19,839
necessary to proceed with the purchase
of a second ambulance now um I think

727
01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:25,760
we'll address that uh during the
ordinance coming up for the second

728
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:33,520
ambulance second public comment is from
Masa Stenson on Masia Stenson on Marie

729
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:38,319
Street we as well as other abuts and
residents of the neighborhood continue

730
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:43,279
to have opposition to a business being
placed in this High residential area we

731
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:48,559
have repeatedly voiced our concerns and
opposition we have asked many questions

732
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:53,039
without clear and full answers the UN
the understanding the residents walked

733
01:04:50,279 --> 01:04:57,599
away with at the October 1 Workshop was
the contracted area would be for one

734
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:02,520
garage in one piece of equipment to warm
up in the winter but the contract does

735
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:06,319
not place that limit it leaves it open
to multiple heavy equipment Vehicles

736
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:11,400
entering and exiting through the
neighborhood year round we have also

737
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:16,920
asked how large the building could be
meeting the town setbacks the strictest

738
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:22,839
State statutes were required in most
current D land use regulations yet have

739
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:27,920
not received an answer more questions
residents would like to clarify are on

740
01:05:25,319 --> 01:05:32,680
our what will be required to be in place
for noise control dust control will the

741
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:37,039
road driveway right away be required to
be

742
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:42,200
paved where is the visual buffer to be
placed much seems to be determined due

743
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:46,920
to no actual building plans being
submitted same as to the question of

744
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:52,160
what the tax bases this project will
bring that has previously been asked

745
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:56,920
while it may not be a required for the
town to inform residents if the stricter

746
01:05:54,799 --> 01:06:01,720
statutes are not being followed as the
towns do not have to play the resident's

747
01:05:59,799 --> 01:06:07,520
lawyer the fact remains The Code
Enforcement office is required by law to

748
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:12,920
follow stricter State statutes where
applicable just as public information in

749
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:17,119
notices have legal requirements while
some may feel once a council passes an

750
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:32,279
ordinance should not matter in that it
is easier to stick a notice on a Town

751
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:38,000
bulletin board than when you want I'm
sorry just push something through this

752
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:42,720
attitude or thought process if you will
is not in the best interest of the

753
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:47,960
residents of this town or town in
general after the last meeting I Masia

754
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:52,480
was told by a council member to follow
the chain of command and to check my

755
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:58,680
facts before submitting any further
information to the council first off I

756
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:03,559
am not in the military and know of no
chain of command a resident of town is

757
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:09,160
required to follow secondly I do not
believe I have personally given any

758
01:07:05,279 --> 01:07:15,079
incorrect facts I have given my opinions
asked questions Express concerns and

759
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:19,319
repeated information I can validate
substantiate in written form and by

760
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:24,440
personal
witness we would like to know how this

761
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:28,240
project faced the town comprehensive
plan and and are hoping for a

762
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:33,920
conversation in the open discussion
forum to occur to help answers the many

763
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:37,799
questions residents have at the initial
reading of this ordinance there was

764
01:07:36,279 --> 01:07:42,559
close to no
discussion and if this ordinance is

765
01:07:40,279 --> 01:07:47,839
tabled at this meeting we request the
same in any following meeting

766
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:54,839
discussions thank you Mara Stenson and
Michael ker 28 Marie Street Winslow man

767
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:08,000
um got another one for Madam first um
again on the Marie street from Adam moss

768
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:12,839
on leof
Street hi my name is Adam M I own a home

769
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:17,640
on lad
Street I am writing you today to inform

770
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:22,799
the council that I'm 100% against
Building a garage business at the end of

771
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:28,279
Lee Street that could join to Marie
Street this is residential Zone area and

772
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:34,600
should stay that way I do not want a
business or contracted business to exist

773
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:39,000
there it would mean excessive noise
traffic lights and in general devalue

774
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:43,960
the surrounding
properties I am the head custodian at

775
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:49,480
the Winslow Elementary School I
personally see and hear Steve or

776
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:56,080
employees using the equipment on the old
modern's parking lot the lootus Bobcats

777
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:59,400
and trucks all have loud backup sensors
I can hear them while inside and outside

778
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:05,040
the
school I know how loud this equipment is

779
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:10,239
day and night and do not want to even
close in my residential area please

780
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,279
don't allow this to pass thank you for
your time Adam

781
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:23,000
Moss the next one again is on the Marie
Street issue Benjamin Stafford on Lee

782
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,040
Street below are my public comments for
the town council meeting for December

783
01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:31,199
14th
2020 Ben Stafford resident of Lee Street

784
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:36,199
speaking in opposition to the rezoning
of the area around dumbar Acres the

785
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:41,679
purpose of zoning and public planning is
to serve the community in the public

786
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:45,679
good changing the zone of of the area in
and around Dumar rakers does not meet

787
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:51,719
the standard and only serves the
interest of a Selected Few there has

788
01:09:48,839 --> 01:09:57,280
been no legitimate justification made by
changing the zoning from residential nor

789
01:09:54,640 --> 01:10:02,280
how this would be in the public interest
there has been a lack of transparency in

790
01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:07,800
this matter and this lack is either the
result of mismanagement or it is by

791
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:13,400
Design to minimize public input and
scrutiny either way resoning the area is

792
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:17,480
inappropriate and by any reasonable
standard should not be allowed the

793
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:22,640
argument has been made that because the
surrounding area is already Zone mixed

794
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:27,719
use in this area should be as well by
this logic nearly the entire town could

795
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:32,400
be zoned as such which I can't imagine
would be a decision any reasonable

796
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:36,840
person would be in favor of this area
has been zon residential for decades the

797
01:10:34,679 --> 01:10:41,080
current owner and tenant knew this prior
and should have not assumed that they

798
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:46,040
can have it changed simply because it's
in convenient for

799
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:50,960
them there are still no questions there
are still no guarantees the petitioners

800
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:55,920
will follow through in their stated
intentions for the property or what

801
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:59,880
could happen in the future there are far
too many uncertainties here that would

802
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:05,400
adversely affect a great number of
people who already live in the area in

803
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:10,520
whose rights are no less than those who
want to enter the neighborhood only to

804
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:13,960
change it with this in mind I can see no
other reasonable decision for the

805
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:19,080
council to make other than to reject
this request to do otherwise would be

806
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:23,040
and to show favoritism in or a lack of
respect for those who already live in

807
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,800
the neighborhood at the very least this
issue deserves more public input debate

808
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:30,560
and
transparency respectfully submitted

809
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,560
Benjamin

810
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:45,000
Stafford excuse me and the last um
public comment is from Jame Moser James

811
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:50,320
Moser the co storyline continues to
unfold many are waking up to invocations

812
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:55,960
of government sifting the discriminatory
bu bu bureaucracy assessment of

813
01:11:53,560 --> 01:12:00,560
essential versus non-essential
has been a death blow for business and

814
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:05,800
families despite near full compliance
with the governor's dictates months of

815
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:10,199
Sheltering and shuring have not been
enough to flatten the curve thwarted

816
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:14,679
Thanksgiving Gatherings restrictions
have accumulated in a new covid

817
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:22,360
Spike those
anti-maskers is it possible that after

818
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:26,360
Decades of complacency somewhere around
the march of this year we entered a

819
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:30,520
Twilight Zone
how is that dispute almost full

820
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:34,719
compliance with the governor's Mass
mandate Corona virus continues to spread

821
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:39,080
like
wildfire how is it that a person who

822
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:44,280
self-identifies as just wanting to
breathe unadulterated oxygen has become

823
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:49,360
a pariah almost
overnight how is it that

824
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:53,560
restrooms can be utilized for public
urination and defecation and

825
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:59,280
unrestricted respiration to
foten could it be that we are

826
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,280
being

827
01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:15,320
complete does anybody see a patent here
all of the aforementioned are forms of

828
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:22,040
population control under the Mills
economy refusal to ton a face diaper has

829
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:27,360
become a malan mivan act while sulur
clamps suction catheters dismember the

830
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:34,480
bar bodies of roughly five babies per
day in Maine since March of this year

831
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:40,840
1,350 lives have been purposly expunged
meanwhile the covid death toll is

832
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:45,120
259 Grammy and Grandpa can be held to
slaughter when the burden of care

833
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:51,600
becomes too great but we must shut down
schools sanctu uh sanctuaries and

834
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:57,239
commerce to constrain Corona last month
a Portland Herald declared main

835
01:13:53,400 --> 01:14:00,520
harboring Haven for homosexuals the
celebration of

836
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:08,360
indiscriminate redaction for
inappropriate content is nothing new

837
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:12,880
contemporary culture has been doing so
for

838
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:17,800
decades as a heterosexual data four I
haven't had occasion to participate in

839
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:23,639
the annual I have had occasion to
participate in the Annual Pride rituals

840
01:14:20,639 --> 01:14:27,280
so I may stand corrected on this one but
I have never seen it do designated table

841
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:32,080
for
Perell

842
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:39,520
Pumpers in Mass pushes covered by the
Press at these carnivals only Mantra of

843
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:45,800
inclusivity and coexistence not too long
ago communist would have shunned child

844
01:14:42,639 --> 01:14:51,080
sacrifice family killing of MRA Patriots
in fortification of both

845
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:56,480
fa there is a way forward out of this
madness Embrace truth take

846
01:14:53,560 --> 01:15:02,800
responsibility sees initiative eradicate
death and lend a hand dependency on

847
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:08,000
so-called experts is suicide the
scriptures emphatically warn against

848
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:12,120
following them is a Fool's errand this
month's Christians across the world

849
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:18,520
commemorate a
mous a great event the Incarnation of

850
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:24,000
Emanuel he was in the world and the
world has made him through him and the

851
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:32,120
world did not know him he came to his
own and those who were his own did not

852
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:32,120
receive him Merry Christmas James

853
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:41,600
MOA if there's there's no other public
comment go ahead uh Lisa I was just

854
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:49,520
gonna say can we have a motion to
approve all of the boards and committee

855
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:58,120
reports yep we can move
second and who's second second thank you

856
01:15:55,440 --> 01:16:06,040
and go ahead and do the roll call yep go
ahead L thank you Ben twitchell yes G

857
01:16:01,639 --> 01:16:20,400
quaran yes Steve Russell yes Patricia
a yes Jeff West yes Lee Tran yes and Ray

858
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:20,400
Karen yes passes 7 Z thank you thank you

859
01:16:51,159 --> 01:16:57,600
moving forward with table business
ordance number 7-

860
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:07,719
2020 an amendment to the windso zoning
map to rezone a portion of a lot owned

861
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:12,960
by CNL real estate on tax map 13 lot 115
from the high density residential Zone

862
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:21,600
HDI to contract Zone high density
residential D the portion of the lot is

863
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:26,560
described as lot 87 8889 in danar is
subdivision and recorded in the kri

864
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:36,679
County registry of diesel September 22nd
1961 in book 24 page it's now table

865
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:42,159
what's uh Ray yes go ahead
um people can do what they want but I'd

866
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:51,480
like to see this left on the table for
now until the applicants are ready

867
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,480
to put their um plan

868
01:17:52,639 --> 01:18:02,120
forward I'll make a motion make a motion
yep make it I make a motion leave it on

869
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:05,360
the table uh the land owners have asked
me to try to keep it on the table

870
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:12,719
because they're not ready to present
their plan at this

871
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,719
time I'll second open for

872
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:23,199
discussion is anybody any discussion on
this matter if there's no discussion on

873
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:31,040
this matter Lisa could have a roll call
for keeping order number 7 d2020 table

874
01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:39,800
please yes Ben twitchell yes Jerry
quirion yes Steve Russell yes Patricia

875
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:49,760
a yes Jeff West yes Lee
Trahan yes and Ray Karen yes passes

876
01:18:45,239 --> 01:18:54,840
70 o business order number 8- 2020
providing for the amendment of ordinance

877
01:18:52,320 --> 01:19:00,159
number 4 d202
the administration of general assistance

878
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:02,639
is this a second reading on that is
there any

879
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:12,639
discussion if no discussion uh Lisa
could we have a roll call vote please it

880
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:21,080
hasn't
been I heard I heard Jerry say uh first

881
01:19:16,679 --> 01:19:28,639
and who is second me Ben thank you Ben
yeah roll call Ben twitchell yes Jerry

882
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:39,159
Ian yes Steve Russell yes Patricia
a yes Jeff West yes Le Tran yes and Ray

883
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,159
Karen yes passes 7

884
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:55,440
Z moving on to new business order number
25-220

885
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:03,360
providing for the acceptance with
amendments or denial of the a

886
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:08,360
agricultural commission's recommendation
that flying pigs farmed owned by Russell

887
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:13,560
and Diane Wheeler be accepted into the
town's voluntary Municipal Farm Support

888
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:26,639
Program Mo second discussion and I
believe that uh Russell and U and Diane

889
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:26,639
are on the call right now we are

890
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:37,880
hi you have anything you'd like to say
um no just we've we moved here 25 years

891
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:43,159
ago and we've been working this as a
farm ever since and we've worked it up

892
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:50,639
to the point where it's we're able to
really start seeing it being profitable

893
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:53,880
as a farm and um it's just very exciting
for us

894
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:06,159
and farm for over 200 years as far as I
know we've it's a 160 year old

895
01:21:03,639 --> 01:21:12,120
farmhouse well we we thank you for the
work I know it's a lot of work out there

896
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:17,440
fun too but it is work yeah Kate you're
on the call too correct I am on the call

897
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,760
and I can answer any questions anybody
might

898
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:29,600
have I I think that the uh you know the
the order was extremely well done very

899
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:35,280
ex uh very you know the explanations
were very good on it the recommendations

900
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:41,199
were very high rate uh and so thank you
for taking the time to filling out and

901
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:44,000
uh yeah you know thank yeah thank the
committee they all pulled together to

902
01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:48,960
get
that thank you very much for offering

903
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:53,800
this to Farmers I wish more people would
take advantage of it there's a number of

904
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:59,440
farms in town it would be really nice
yep and and Kate this would be the

905
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:06,000
second um that's on this program is that
correct yes it is it would be the second

906
01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:12,400
the Hayworth uh what's his name I can't
remember his name Haworth Kevin Haworth

907
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:17,880
Haworth thank you the Haworth Farm
yep so is there any further discussion

908
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:17,880
on this

909
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:26,520
matter if there is no further discussion
on this matter Lisa could we have a roll

910
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,520
Co vote please

911
01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:34,600
Lisa you're you're
quiet you're

912
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:45,320
muted I'm
sorry Ben twitchell yes Jerry quer Steve

913
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:57,120
Russell yes Patricia
a yes Jeff West yes Lee

914
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:57,120
Tran yes and Ray Karen yes pass 7

915
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:07,960
Z thank you all very much we appreciate
it thank you very much for coming our

916
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,960
pleasure thank

917
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:19,000
you and moving
on to order number

918
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:22,920
262020 providing for the authorization
for the town manager proceed with

919
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:28,880
expenditures for the chaffy brook Pump
Station upgrades to

920
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:37,080
$58,000 which is part of the $5
million project cost don't move

921
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:41,480
second Gary and Ben uh and I believe we
have one of the engineers that are

922
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:45,000
working on the project tonight uh to
speak about the cost of the

923
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:56,280
$58,000 yes good evening I that's me I'm
Kyle kulage a Wastewater engineer for

924
01:23:53,120 --> 01:24:01,120
right Pierce engineers and we've been
helping uh Paul and Erica and the town

925
01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:07,280
uh with the Wastewater upgrades to
chaffy Brook Pump Station and the forest

926
01:24:03,639 --> 01:24:12,440
main across the river um Erica mentioned
a couple things in her report and I'm

927
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:17,239
going to pick up from there um assuming
you're all familiar with the the concept

928
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:22,199
is to upgrade the pump station and of
course uh the Force main across the

929
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:27,840
river to increase the capacity as part
of the master plan the the combin s

930
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:34,440
overflow master plan it ties into that
um we did the concept design uh about a

931
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:41,440
year ago and developed the $5 million
project budget and so our next task the

932
01:24:37,639 --> 01:24:46,880
town's next task is to obtain grants uh
and Loans to fund the project and so

933
01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:52,400
right now our eyes are focused on
obtaining a a funding package from rural

934
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:57,320
development and rural development being
Federal money we're following the

935
01:24:54,440 --> 01:25:04,760
environmental review requirements for
the project um mostly in this case today

936
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:10,840
it's permitting and you all know that
permitting is required for any project

937
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:16,719
um but with rural development money and
Agency Reviews um uh it tends to be a

938
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:23,119
more rigorous environmental review
process upfront so I'm going to say just

939
01:25:19,719 --> 01:25:29,480
out of the gates uh we don't often see
58,000 in per in fees for a project like

940
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:34,440
this uh hence the reason I offered to
come and answer questions if you have

941
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:39,480
any but the majority of these fees are
aimed at

942
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:46,159
protecting several main things one is uh
Wetlands is a common one you guys all

943
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:53,000
know that uh Erica mentioned uh
archaeological uh significant sites uh

944
01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:56,840
we did a phase one survey got a hit I
have some good news though Eric I don't

945
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:01,840
think we are going to need to go to the
phase two I'm waiting to confirm with a

946
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:07,159
couple of people that if we can draw a
line around those sensitive areas and

947
01:26:05,239 --> 01:26:12,159
and keep our project out of those areas
we may be able to avoid that Al together

948
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:19,040
so this to be determined on that right
which is great I see the thumbs up Paul

949
01:26:15,159 --> 01:26:22,239
um uh and then of course in the river uh
a lot of the permanent costs are

950
01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:27,119
associated with protecting Atlantic
salmon and sturgeon so when I say

951
01:26:25,480 --> 01:26:35,000
protecting those
species um we are starting to fall under

952
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:41,600
a national marine fisheries and service
service Endangered Species Act uh

953
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:46,920
section s review and it's it's quite in-
depth it's quite detailed um we have a

954
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:52,719
subcontractor that is doing a bimetric
survey of the riverbed uh it's taking

955
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:57,560
sediment samples uh and the the
significance of all this is

956
01:26:54,800 --> 01:27:05,520
is that they likely will come back to
the town and us to say a range of things

957
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:10,880
ranging from we didn't find any salmon
or sturgeon to there are definitely

958
01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:18,239
salmon in Sturgeon and it's definitely
spawning habitat and you can only do

959
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:24,239
your project in River work between say
the months of like November and December

960
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:30,840
because that um creates the least imp
impact to those endangered

961
01:27:26,679 --> 01:27:35,360
species um there are uh other permitting
uh includes and all of this is uh in the

962
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:42,280
scope of work that I believe you have a
copy of uh so uh there's also natural

963
01:27:39,239 --> 01:27:47,840
res resources protection uh tier one
individual permit the Army Core of

964
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:53,840
Engineers permit submerged uh lands
lease application so we've we've rolled

965
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:59,000
all of these uh this pering work into
one agreement for you uh and when we get

966
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:04,440
through this in the
springtime uh we'll roll this all back

967
01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:08,520
up into the Federal Environmental review
for Rural Development submit that to

968
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:14,840
them and
then uh the town will obtain a loan and

969
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:19,000
Grant package and we're crossing our
fingers for Grant next

970
01:28:19,159 --> 01:28:29,639
year question
yes okay

971
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:38,119
uh are we looking at the river crossing
to be directional B

972
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,119
across and no open

973
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:46,639
Trent we did look at that so on the
table there are two main types two main

974
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:50,440
ways to get across the river one is
directional drill underneath and that

975
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:56,600
was our first go-to because it has the
least environmental impact um when we

976
01:28:52,960 --> 01:29:03,360
investigated that the soils uh in your
particular area of the river uh are

977
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:11,280
risky for a directional drill uh for
example uh Paul and myself and uh some

978
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:14,600
some of my co-workers met with greater
Augusta Utility District who had just

979
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:18,840
attempted a directional drill under the
river down there that failed and it cost

980
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:23,800
them you know several hundred thousands
of dollars with and didn't result in any

981
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:26,800
pipe uh and we have similar conditions
here

982
01:29:24,679 --> 01:29:33,560
so we've done our homework and now we
know that um the least risk and the

983
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:40,159
least cost approach is to dredge across
the river um so that's the approach that

984
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:44,159
we're taking uh we have written all that
up in the preliminary engineering report

985
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,360
which of course you could you could see
or

986
01:29:47,119 --> 01:29:53,639
read so K I just want to go over the
reason why we've been doing the Jeffrey

987
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:59,119
Brook project is because we had a
failure year in a 12in line chaffy Brook

988
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:04,280
is the main pump station for the
majority of sewage waste for the town of

989
01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:10,800
Winslow and that pipe carries it over to
the uh municipal waste treatment plant

990
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:16,840
that 12in pipe uh failed uh and then now
we're pumping through an 8 inch pipe

991
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:21,119
that during high high rain periods or in
climate weather periods that uh a

992
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:25,679
portion of the sewage is that they
cannot handle the majority of the sewage

993
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:30,080
at time time in that some of that sewage
is being is being overflowed into the

994
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:41,639
river yes I I think uh going from memory
you have the gist of it is as spot on

995
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:46,080
and that this upgrade one of the major
goals of this upgrade is to eliminate

996
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:52,800
those combined sewer overflows by
increasing the capacity in the Force

997
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:56,880
main yeah I saw Paul shake his head uh I
I I I think think some of the sizes

998
01:30:55,119 --> 01:31:01,440
might might be a little different but
but you you got the uh the point of it

999
01:30:59,159 --> 01:31:05,639
right and that it's all with the the
whole upgrade is is of course to

1000
01:31:03,639 --> 01:31:11,639
eliminate combin sewer overflows if
possible um and of course some of your

1001
01:31:08,679 --> 01:31:15,840
infrastructure is aging so you'll be
getting new pumps and generators and

1002
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:20,520
things like that
too if I if I might I try to make sure

1003
01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:25,080
that people understand that you know
those combined super overflows happen

1004
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:29,960
very rarely Maybe once a year there not
like it's a very common occurrence I

1005
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:34,360
people understand that it it happens on
a regular basis we go some years we

1006
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:40,760
don't have any but we still have to try
to eliminate

1007
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:47,880
them what will be the size of the new
pipe uh uh uh good question uh pipes I

1008
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:51,960
deal with every day these ones are the
new ones are going to be 16s I believe

1009
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:57,719
and we're going to split it into two so
you'll have redundancy uh because that

1010
01:31:54,960 --> 01:32:00,320
makes the most sense going forward given
the amount of effort we're going through

1011
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:05,280
to cross the
river youan you mean you will be laying

1012
01:32:02,679 --> 01:32:10,159
two two pipes at the same time that's
correct will you use only one and have

1013
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:17,159
one as a spare or will both of them be
having e fluence go through them uh both

1014
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:24,520
of them will be in use uh at this time
that's the concept is to have both of

1015
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:30,679
them in use uh for uh process reasons um
uh but um we'll of course finish that in

1016
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:38,520
the final design does the old one get
removed uh we haven't really uh talked

1017
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:44,960
about that question um there isn't
necessarily A need to remove the old one

1018
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:50,440
uh yet at least in terms of no one has
brought that up you know in terms of

1019
01:32:47,159 --> 01:32:55,000
agency review and permitting Paul I
think we would just abandon it in place

1020
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:57,440
and cap it on both ends and not disturb
the river

1021
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:04,280
bottom that's correct right but we we
hadn't we haven't talked about that

1022
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:11,880
specifically
yet thank you

1023
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,880
yeah any other questions for

1024
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:22,760
car if there's no other questions for
car could we have a a roll call vote

1025
01:33:17,159 --> 01:33:26,040
Lisa please on order number 26 um-
2020 Ben

1026
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:41,040
twitchell yes Jerry
quaran yes Steve Russell yes Patricia

1027
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:46,679
a yes Jeff West yes Lee
tryan Yes Ray Karen yes first reading

1028
01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:49,679
passes
70

1029
01:33:50,040 --> 01:34:00,600
okay thank you uh I'm gonna uh head out
and say good night to the kids and Paul

1030
01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:06,560
and Erica will be in touch with you
folks thank you Kyle good night everyone

1031
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:12,119
thank you um is there any interest uh I
know Erica has an interest uh to get

1032
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:17,360
this moving just as quickly as possible
uh for waving of the second reading uh

1033
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:22,719
is what's could we have a discussion
please on that make a motion when you do

1034
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:28,760
away with the second
reading

1035
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:34,480
second so motion on the floor right now
uh by Jeff uh seconded by Lee to wave

1036
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:37,639
the second reading and discussion on
that please Erica do you want to comment

1037
01:34:36,679 --> 01:34:43,679
on
that video back

1038
01:34:40,119 --> 01:34:43,679
On's to com

1039
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:50,360
onward having a hard time to hear you
Erica

1040
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,880
let me just ask

1041
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:08,199
Paul Paul could you could you comment on
waving the second reading and what that

1042
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:12,840
would benefit to us if there is any
benefit I believe there is I I believe

1043
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:18,360
most of these
uh subcontractors are pretty much lined

1044
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:22,760
up to go so I would think it'd be
beneficial if they can hit the ground

1045
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:27,199
before we get too more too much more bad
weather and some of these processes take

1046
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:31,000
long as it is so you know if we lose a
month that we may be late into spring

1047
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:35,119
before we get the final permit some of
these permit processes are are quite

1048
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:38,840
long and I would imagine with the covid
restrictions they probably even longer

1049
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:44,760
so yeah I I think if we could move it
along it would be better okay thank you

1050
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:50,760
uh any other further discussion on the
motion uh for for waving the second

1051
01:35:47,719 --> 01:35:50,760
reader on order number

1052
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:58,760
262020 if no further discuss session uh
Lisa could we have a roll Co vote and

1053
01:35:56,239 --> 01:36:04,760
waving the second reading please yes Ben
twitchell yes Jerry quaran yes Steve

1054
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:08,719
Russell yes Patricia
a yes Jeff

1055
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:24,119
West Jeff West yes thank you Lee Tran
yes Ray Karen yes second uh reading

1056
01:36:19,719 --> 01:36:29,320
passes 70 moving on for order number 27
-2020 providing for authorization for

1057
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:34,719
the fire chief to purchase ambulance
equipment at a total cost not to exceed

1058
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,719
$

1059
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:44,480
7,543 can I have a
motion so

1060
01:36:41,239 --> 01:36:44,480
moved a

1061
01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:56,760
second second okay thank
you um

1062
01:36:54,199 --> 01:37:01,040
Chief Rodriguez uh could you speak on
this matter

1063
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:06,639
please absolutely Mr chairman at uh at
the direction of the council last uh

1064
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:11,280
last meeting I went out to acquire cost
associated with a second ambulance and

1065
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:16,880
service that's what brought me to the
discussion with the with the vendor that

1066
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:23,920
would provide the listed medical and um
transport equipment uh and and the

1067
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:27,440
discussion with the sales rep he has
offered up a substantial discount of up

1068
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:33,800
to
40% uh and I explained to him that there

1069
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:38,960
has not been a a commitment from the
council to purchase an ambulance and I

1070
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:44,239
was reluctant to bring it forward as it
was however he said that because we're a

1071
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:50,480
municipality that we would be given we
could sign a writer whereby if we went

1072
01:37:47,239 --> 01:37:54,599
ahead and approved this purchase we have
six months with which to return it with

1073
01:37:53,239 --> 01:37:59,760
um
with no penalty so that's why I brought

1074
01:37:56,679 --> 01:38:03,880
it Forward at the at the request number
one it was at the request of the council

1075
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:09,719
that I investigate the costs associated
with the ambulance and number two a

1076
01:38:06,599 --> 01:38:13,599
second ambulance if I can remind the
council has been part of the plan all

1077
01:38:11,599 --> 01:38:19,840
along that we would start with a used
ambulance um and substantiate the the

1078
01:38:17,159 --> 01:38:26,320
fact that it does uh provide a valuable
service and cover its own costs and that

1079
01:38:23,719 --> 01:38:32,599
a backup ambulance should the Frontline
ambulance go down should what is

1080
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:36,760
necessary so that that is my comment to
the uh the the the uh the

1081
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:46,480
order it's a win to me it's a win-win
situation we can secure the needed

1082
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:50,320
equipment at a reduced cost we can
finance that equipment over three years

1083
01:38:48,199 --> 01:38:57,679
at 0% interest which would be a payment
of $223,000 a year and if if we don't if

1084
01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:02,719
the council chooses not to approve a
second ambulance I just tell the

1085
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:05,480
salesman we don't want it we have until
next fiscal

1086
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:15,650
year and I might add if I may Mr
chairman um my monthly

1087
01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:20,000
report
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1088
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:24,119
um highlights month to uh year-to-date
expenses that we have incurred as a

1089
01:39:22,679 --> 01:39:30,599
result of this
uh Endeavor and I would like to

1090
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:34,159
um illustrate that we have significant
amounts of accounts receivable that have

1091
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:39,679
not been compared to the expenditures
that have already been uh spent if you

1092
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:44,320
were to take the accounts receivable
that we have incurred to date and add it

1093
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:49,480
to the receivables that we already have
we're well over $100,000 in receipts for

1094
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:49,480
five

1095
01:39:51,239 --> 01:40:00,520
months thank you chief for clar
right what I had heard too is you know

1096
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:07,960
if we approve the 70,000 obviously we
have 6 months uh would we uh so this is

1097
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:11,760
the first reading we couldn't uh most
readings take most ordinance takes two

1098
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:15,560
readings so we would have the next
reading at the beginning of January that

1099
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:19,639
would be
sufficient if we take the first reading

1100
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:24,520
tonight and
then would would the deal still be in

1101
01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:30,080
place if we we have the second reading
on H January in the first meeting in

1102
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:35,320
January no sir the the salesman told me
that the that the offer or the the

1103
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:38,400
promotion is good until December 21st
which is why I rushed it

1104
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:49,440
through so what happens after December
21th we we pay full price correct the

1105
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:53,960
price goes up so how much of a discount
are we getting in this time 40% but we

1106
01:40:52,760 --> 01:41:01,119
can still
cancel the deal we have six months to

1107
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,119
cancel the deal that's exactly

1108
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:09,840
right with a 100%
refund yes no

1109
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:14,040
penalty it's a to me it's a win you know
it's a win-win and I know I I appreciate

1110
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:20,239
the Indulgence of the council because I
know this is a last minute um issue but

1111
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:24,719
I just found out about it and it was uh
and it was a result of the council's uh

1112
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:30,560
direction for me to go out and acquire
the cost to put another ambulance in

1113
01:41:27,639 --> 01:41:35,800
service who was it that requested that
Ronnie it was the the chairman at the

1114
01:41:33,159 --> 01:41:35,800
last council

1115
01:41:37,719 --> 01:41:47,480
meeting yeah Chief one one one question
have you done any of the research on

1116
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:54,520
used lease purchase
new on an ambulance itself

1117
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:58,800
yet uh I have done so some research on
the cost of a new ambulance I have not

1118
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:05,599
pursued any
additional um analysis on purchasing a

1119
01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:10,920
used ambulance if we purchased a new a
new ambulance we always have that option

1120
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:15,520
of a fiveyear lease purchase which
depending on um

1121
01:42:25,239 --> 01:42:37,040
is about $46,000 a year plus or
minus that's taken a purchase price at

1122
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:41,239
230 and um financing it over five years
and I I would like to also point out

1123
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:46,599
that the town manager uh did mention the
fact that we are going to be selling the

1124
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:53,679
rescue and the Quint and those proceeds
can be applied to the purchase of a new

1125
01:42:49,480 --> 01:42:57,560
ambulance I understood and I'm and I I
want to clarify I am not asking the

1126
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:02,960
council to approve the purchase of a
second ambulance tonight I I think it's

1127
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:08,960
I'm trying to save the town money in the
event that that discussion leads towards

1128
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:13,560
the purchase of a second ambulance um of
course it's up to the the council to

1129
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:17,199
decide yep and if if I might add Chief
thank you for the work that you've done

1130
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:21,560
in this on this subject time and time
again doing what the council wants wants

1131
01:43:19,719 --> 01:43:26,599
you to do and asks you to do and I I
thank you for that and if say we we pass

1132
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:32,199
the ordinance and we wave the second
reading tonight um there'll be no money

1133
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:36,719
transferred we could have six months for
the money to be TR so we could wait till

1134
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:43,639
next July to actually spend the money on
the on on on the uh on the equipment

1135
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:49,400
that is correct so even if we made a
decision the unlikely decision that a

1136
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:54,119
second ambulance is not needed and I
can't even fathom that anybody at this

1137
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:59,040
point in time would think that a second
ambulance is not needed uh but in case

1138
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:03,040
that we would have time to come out of
the deal but we could save the money by

1139
01:44:01,159 --> 01:44:08,320
the first and waving the second reading
tonight and pay when that decision was

1140
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:14,119
made on the second ambulance which
should be yes sir okay how much how much

1141
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:20,360
are we losing by uh how much we actually
gaining by putting the cart before the

1142
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:26,800
horse um I'd have to do the math but
it's 7 some th000 at 40% so you're

1143
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:31,599
you're looking at over $35,000 I'd say
35 to

1144
01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:37,159
$40,000 well
7,000 half of that is 50% and that's 35

1145
01:44:35,719 --> 01:44:42,320
so it's got to be less than that right
Ronnie yes sir I'm okay I was just off

1146
01:44:39,719 --> 01:44:49,480
the top of my head understand doing some
doing some quick math I

1147
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:58,040
understand we calculated it at 30%
previously I'm sorry $30,000 not 30%

1148
01:44:54,679 --> 01:45:02,480
and so I'm trying to get my head around
this you um this the purchase price then

1149
01:45:00,440 --> 01:45:06,920
wouldn't be 70,000 the purchase price
would be

1150
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:11,199
40,000 no sir the the purchase
price I'm sorry through through the

1151
01:45:09,239 --> 01:45:15,679
chair the purchase price right now is
the

1152
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:22,639
70,000 um plus 30
right plus plus 30 so by moving now

1153
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:26,880
we're saving $30,000 if we were to if if
the were to approve a second ambulance

1154
01:45:24,679 --> 01:45:31,360
without making without approving this
purchase it would cost us an addition uh

1155
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:36,679
rough numbers now you know you know
speaking roughly it would be an

1156
01:45:33,719 --> 01:45:40,599
additional 30 some thousand for the same
equipment okay thank you I appreciate

1157
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:44,360
that clarification you know wouldn't
that wouldn't that put it up over the

1158
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:49,560
100,000 so we'd have to get the public
to vote on that

1159
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:53,639
no anything over 100,000 I think we have
to put out the voters no but you've

1160
01:45:51,639 --> 01:45:57,400
already voted on the program Ben and I
think that's where that goes to you've

1161
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:03,000
already the the program The Proposal
that you passed already has the second

1162
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:06,480
ambulance in it well it does yes all
right so there is no more public vote on

1163
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:10,920
whether we get a second ambulance or not
it's simply a question of when the

1164
01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:16,400
council moves to move forward with it I
didn't know that we okay the second one

1165
01:46:13,599 --> 01:46:21,000
I we took the second one out and got the
first one put through but I didn't know

1166
01:46:18,119 --> 01:46:27,280
we did the second one same
time everyone voted on

1167
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:31,880
correct pardon me everyone I'm not
asking you Ben everyone voted on that

1168
01:46:29,639 --> 01:46:36,360
correct all seven of
us I wasn't there for the vote but I

1169
01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:39,920
know that's the proposal you voted on
was that the ambulance service would

1170
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:45,000
start there were going to be two
ambulances voted to start with the first

1171
01:46:42,239 --> 01:46:49,080
one being the used which was going to
give you the ability one to get in on

1172
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:53,040
the ground floor with less money and
show that the program was going to be

1173
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:57,719
viable before spending the big money on
brand new

1174
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:57,719
unit thank

1175
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:06,000
you okay I think we're
um is is there any more discussion or

1176
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:10,440
any more questions for the chief at this
point in

1177
01:47:07,639 --> 01:47:14,320
time so the first reading on order
number

1178
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:18,800
27-
2020 if there's no further discussion

1179
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:24,119
Lisa can I have a roll call please for
the first i' like to make a motion what

1180
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:29,840
the heck right
can I can yeah can is it related to the

1181
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:35,400
first reading or the second reading
because if it's the second reading then

1182
01:47:32,239 --> 01:47:42,560
we can pass it first and then we can we
can make a motion we can make a motion

1183
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:47,440
after to wave the second reading all
right what what what what's your

1184
01:47:44,639 --> 01:47:51,920
question Ben well no I'm just I'm just
concerned that we're putting this kind

1185
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:56,840
of money out and and right now we we ar
seeing that second ambulance right there

1186
01:47:54,239 --> 01:48:01,639
yet and we got a budget session coming
up in another month or so no money will

1187
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:05,679
be no money will be given for this
equipment unless the second ambulance

1188
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:10,199
you know when the second ambulance is
approved so we don't have to pay for

1189
01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:15,239
this we don't have to put out the money
until next July by July we would have

1190
01:48:13,239 --> 01:48:20,000
had made and hopefully within the next
couple months we'll make our decision on

1191
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:24,400
what that second ambulance would be far
before we have to do the expenditures

1192
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:28,520
for the equipment for the second
ambulance does that make sense are

1193
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:37,239
you I couldn't I I couldn't hear what
you said Trish I said what information

1194
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:43,400
are you missing
Ben no no I I I don't know I I I

1195
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:48,440
misunderstood apparently way back when
we voted after that 18 month thing uh

1196
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:53,599
for the first ambulance because I know
Steve changed amended the program for

1197
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:58,800
one ambulance
okay I never knew that we voted for a

1198
01:48:56,440 --> 01:48:58,800
second

1199
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:07,239
ambulance Steve you there yes I'm not
sure we voted for the second ambulance I

1200
01:49:04,719 --> 01:49:12,239
think we were doing it in a step-by-step
process and the first step was going to

1201
01:49:09,199 --> 01:49:17,639
be a used ambulance so we could assess
the impact of that on our citizens and

1202
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:21,599
on our budget and then true we didn't we
didn't actually authorize that second

1203
01:49:21,719 --> 01:49:25,800
one can't hear you Mr

1204
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:35,719
Chief if if I can just provide a little
history

1205
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:41,320
here this came up at a workshop where we
discussed the the ambulances and through

1206
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:45,040
the chair uh councilman twitchell
actually emphatically said I want to

1207
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:48,840
know I want the chief and the town
manager to know at the time that we

1208
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:52,760
leave this meeting that they have the
authorization to go out and get what's

1209
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:56,960
necessary for two ambulances and then
that was later amended on the Friday

1210
01:49:54,719 --> 01:50:02,880
night to purchase uh actually we had a
special council meeting the following

1211
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:08,040
Friday and whereby we um discussed it
further and then the formal Town council

1212
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:14,159
meeting the following Monday it was
amended to purchase a used one first but

1213
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:19,000
the the authorization for the town
manager and myself to go out and acquire

1214
01:50:16,159 --> 01:50:24,639
the equipment was granted at that
Workshop I I don't remember that was

1215
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,639
back in

1216
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:31,000
may I didn't I don't remember it Ronnie
yep any other further

1217
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:41,520
comment if there is no further comment
uh Lisa could we have a roll call vote

1218
01:50:39,639 --> 01:50:48,480
on order
272020 please yes Ben twitchell no Jerry

1219
01:50:51,639 --> 01:50:59,960
quaran
Jerry I don't see

1220
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:08,360
him yeah we may have lost him Steve
Russell

1221
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:08,360
yes Patricia a yes Jeff

1222
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,800
West

1223
01:51:12,719 --> 01:51:21,360
um do we have this in
writing that they will accept it

1224
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:26,480
back yes sir I have the uh through the
chair I have the writer and the the

1225
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:33,360
quote so the writer would be
signed and we would be U free and clear

1226
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:37,679
if we don't buy the ambulance we we we
would not be obligated and we would not

1227
01:51:35,079 --> 01:51:40,400
be penalized the riter is actually
included in your

1228
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:53,639
packets okay
yes uh Le Tran yes Ray Karen yes and one

1229
01:51:50,560 --> 01:52:01,560
more time is Jerry still not with us
he is not so it is 5 to

1230
01:51:57,599 --> 01:52:01,560
one that first reading

1231
01:52:05,480 --> 01:52:14,840
passes and do
is keeping the discussion open is there

1232
01:52:11,719 --> 01:52:21,040
any interest right now into because the
deal is contingent on December 21st is

1233
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:25,239
there any interest right now in waving
the second reading

1234
01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:30,119
would anybody make motion I'd like to
make a motion

1235
01:52:26,679 --> 01:52:35,800
to to skip the second second
hearing

1236
01:52:33,119 --> 01:52:41,119
second so open for discussion for the
second reading waving the second reading

1237
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:46,599
on order number
272020 discussion

1238
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:53,079
please just for a clarification for
myself I usually do

1239
01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:57,159
not like to suspend the second reading
just as a matter of

1240
01:52:54,840 --> 01:53:02,880
course um but I'm I'm trying I'm
wrestling with this just to be clear

1241
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:10,000
Chief if we pass a second reading we
basically save $30,000 in round numbers

1242
01:53:06,079 --> 01:53:16,040
yes sir and by not suspending the second
reading it's going to cost us $330,000

1243
01:53:12,079 --> 01:53:18,199
more is that correct yes sir thank you
yes

1244
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:26,400
sir and for future reference Jerry's
back

1245
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,400
on

1246
01:53:26,599 --> 01:53:33,599
yes
uh

1247
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:37,880
Jerry uh Lisa could you explain to Jerry
what what he missed the vote and he's

1248
01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:44,079
missing on the first reading for yeah
Jerry the first the first reading was

1249
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:49,639
completed and it passed 5 to
one well it would have

1250
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:54,880
been five to
two so we're now getting ready to do the

1251
01:53:52,119 --> 01:53:58,760
second reading yep we're doing we're
waving for the second reading for the

1252
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:04,199
waving we're having discussion at this
at this particular time on waving the

1253
01:54:01,079 --> 01:54:14,119
second reading for order for that
order well if we wave the second

1254
01:54:09,719 --> 01:54:20,040
reading uh we save some money
but why

1255
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:25,440
not go to a second reading in January
and negotiate

1256
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:30,639
that because the person will not want
the salesman will not want to lose that

1257
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:45,599
sale it's either we save $330,000 or we
don't I think we could even if we want

1258
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,599
another into

1259
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:55,159
January do you want to spend $30,000 of
taxpayer money for what reason why do

1260
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,159
you why do you want to

1261
01:54:56,119 --> 01:55:04,840
wait that gives a two new councilors on
board oh so you just want to wait for

1262
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:11,159
them to get
on yes that's not a legit reason okay

1263
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:19,639
let's uh let's continue with the with
the discussion I would say off hand you

1264
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:25,639
know it's should be a
rarity when we under extreme emergency

1265
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:30,880
conditions is when we usually and I
think Steve's Point here is valid that

1266
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:35,719
you know unless it's an emergency
situation normally what we try to do is

1267
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:40,760
not wave that second reading it gives us
in the public time to vet the process

1268
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:50,560
all the actual
um the actual valid you know the actual

1269
01:55:46,119 --> 01:55:56,000
uh but in this particular case you know
in the future it puts a council at a

1270
01:55:53,199 --> 01:56:00,159
strain when we're when we have to wave
that second reading because of the

1271
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:04,880
process and due process I think is
important in these matters and so I

1272
01:56:03,119 --> 01:56:08,400
hopefully in the future that less and
less of these will come I know that

1273
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:14,719
there are exceptions to these rules but
when're negotiating for these deals and

1274
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:19,400
stuff it must be kept in mind that the
council works and that type of doesn't

1275
01:56:17,239 --> 01:56:24,000
work in a you know waving the second
reading unless in a very emergency

1276
01:56:21,599 --> 01:56:26,679
situation
Mr chairman go

1277
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:34,480
ahead um I would just like to say again
I'm the one that usually votes against

1278
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:38,440
suspending the second
reading and there's two reasons I'll

1279
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:44,840
vote for it this time and that's because
it's going to save the taxpayers

1280
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:50,560
30,000 plus the new Council will still
have six

1281
01:56:46,199 --> 01:56:55,119
months to suspend the purchase of the
second ambulance if that is their desire

1282
01:56:52,639 --> 01:56:55,119
without any

1283
01:56:55,199 --> 01:57:02,599
penalty I I just wanted to add that I
would I totally agree we don't want to

1284
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:08,360
be in the position of rushing the
council into making a decision uh when

1285
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:11,719
Chief brought this to me it was again he
only found this out as a result of

1286
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:17,119
looking into what the cost of a new
ambulance would be and I would not have

1287
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:22,440
backed him if it had not been for the
fact that we

1288
01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:25,400
can be held harmless if we don't decide
to move forward with the second

1289
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:30,280
ambulance now I would have had a much
harder time supporting this had we been

1290
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:35,760
getting into a decision where we're
trying to force that that money just to

1291
01:57:32,639 --> 01:57:40,520
be on the salesman's timeline um but the
guarantee as a municipality that we're

1292
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:45,560
not held to this purchase for six months
makes a very uh big difference when it

1293
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:48,800
comes to that kind of money um 30,000
maybe a drop in the bucket for some

1294
01:57:47,159 --> 01:57:53,079
bigger budgets for some bigger
municipalities but in this

1295
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:57,760
municipality it it's a significant
amount of money and that's the only

1296
01:57:54,440 --> 01:58:03,159
reason I backed it um to to Jerry's
comment about negotiating um this is

1297
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:07,719
like negotiating with a car dealer you
get end-year deals um and you see them

1298
01:58:05,639 --> 01:58:11,280
at the end of every year but you don't
generally see those same deals during

1299
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:16,560
the middle of a year it's not so much a
negotiation is they're trying to uh move

1300
01:58:14,679 --> 01:58:23,360
their inventory that's current year
inventory so the the likelihood that we

1301
01:58:20,119 --> 01:58:27,159
would get another 40% off deal deal in
the near future unless we were doing

1302
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:33,119
this again next time this time next year
is unlikely um and again I I do I do

1303
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:37,199
feel The council's Angst when it comes
to being asked to wave these second

1304
01:58:34,599 --> 01:58:43,000
readings and I I completely agree it it
just comes down to that ability to

1305
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:48,440
return the equipment uh at no at no cost
to us and that we don't have to pay

1306
01:58:44,599 --> 01:58:48,440
until July which is next fiso

1307
01:58:50,719 --> 01:58:58,079
year any further discussion on this
matter

1308
01:58:55,280 --> 01:59:05,679
please if there is no further discussion
Lisa can I have a roll call vote please

1309
01:59:00,639 --> 01:59:05,679
yes Ben twitchell no Jerry

1310
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:11,199
quirion
yes Steve

1311
01:59:12,159 --> 01:59:22,840
Russell
yes Patricia

1312
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:28,440
a yes de West yes Lee Tran yes
Ray Karen yes it passes 6 to

1313
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:39,800
one moving on
resolution number

1314
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:46,639
45-22 providing four application for
restaurant class 1 2 3 4 lical license

1315
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:53,280
and Club catering license renewal by
McCrillis Russo post

1316
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:53,280
883 w

1317
01:59:56,239 --> 02:00:06,480
did I have a motion it
okay any

1318
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:14,679
discussion if no discussion Lisa can
have a roll call vote please on 455-2020

1319
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:22,800
yes Ben twitchell yes Jerry quaran yes
Steve Russell yes Patricia

1320
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:27,920
AER yes Jeff West yes Lee Tran
yes and Ray Karen yes resolution number

1321
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:32,960
46
d2020 providing for authorization for

1322
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:38,920
the town manager to accept a 5,000 Grant
from Center for Tech and Civic life for

1323
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:45,639
the town of Winslow elections
Administration so move

1324
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:45,639
second any

1325
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:54,480
discussion if no discussion Lisa can
have a roll call vote please yes Ben

1326
02:00:50,599 --> 02:01:03,119
twitchell yes Jerry quirian yes Steve
Russell yes Patricia

1327
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:10,159
AER yes Jeff West yes Lee Tran yes Ray
Karen yes passes

1328
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:14,639
70 and resolution
47-22 providing for approval of

1329
02:01:12,599 --> 02:01:23,159
application renewal for automobile
graveyard junk Li permit for Randle fet

1330
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:23,159
uh Babe's Garage on folley Street

1331
02:01:24,599 --> 02:01:33,960
being no discussion uh can I have a roll
Co vote please Lisa yes Ben twitchell

1332
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:42,040
yes Jerry quer yes Steve Russell yes
Patricia

1333
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:52,079
AER yes Jeff West yes V tryan yes Ray
Karen yes resolu 48- 2020 you forgot 46

1334
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:56,800
Ray oh I'm sorry
at 46 he

1335
02:01:54,880 --> 02:02:04,320
did man
it to accept a grant you didn't talk

1336
02:02:00,079 --> 02:02:08,560
about it we got it we got it we passed
it

1337
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:13,239
yep resolution
2-2020 providing for approval of

1338
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:20,069
application renewal for automobile
graveyard junk per junkyard permit foron

1339
02:02:16,970 --> 02:02:20,069
[Music]

1340
02:02:22,599 --> 02:02:31,480
can I have a second please
second no discussion Lisa can I have a

1341
02:02:28,599 --> 02:02:38,119
roll call vote please yes Ben twitchell
yes Gary

1342
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:46,880
quaran yes Steve Russell yes Patricia a
yes Jeff West yes Le Tran yes Ray Karen

1343
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:52,719
yes pass a
70 and resolution Number 49- 220

1344
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:57,360
providing for the author authorization
of the Public's Work Director to enter

1345
02:02:55,040 --> 02:03:02,679
into an emergency services Mutual Aid
agreement with the city of Waterville

1346
02:02:59,159 --> 02:03:02,679
town of Oakland and the town of

1347
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:15,159
Fairfield second that Lisa I got it
okay can I have a roll question any any

1348
02:03:13,079 --> 02:03:20,360
other questions on that
please

1349
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:23,760
uh who's writing the agreement which
town or

1350
02:03:24,679 --> 02:03:31,000
that would have to go to
Paul the

1351
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:36,560
the the agreement was written by the
town of Fairfield in cooperation with

1352
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:40,880
MMA and Bill Lee our lawyer so it's been
it's been vetted

1353
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:47,040
by that's all I wanted to
know Paul I have one question on on that

1354
02:03:45,239 --> 02:03:51,159
is is there going to be any
reimbursements on anybody's partner in

1355
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:57,079
this or is it going to be like the fire
and Polie this is all no cost to anybody

1356
02:03:54,440 --> 02:04:00,800
that nobody's making anything off it
okay I just ju just curiosity question

1357
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:06,960
more than
anything thank you you're

1358
02:04:04,719 --> 02:04:13,559
welcome any further
discussion if no further discussion Lisa

1359
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:18,960
can IO vote please yes Ben twitchell yes
Jer

1360
02:04:14,599 --> 02:04:29,400
Quan yes Steve Russell yes Patricia
a yes Jeff West yes Le

1361
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:29,400
Tran yes and Ray Karen yes pass to

1362
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:44,440
70 you can see it and I know that the
next order of business is discussion

1363
02:04:42,159 --> 02:04:51,719
items in the thing but I I just want to
take a minute here uh to recognize a few

1364
02:04:48,960 --> 02:05:00,119
of the counselors that are ending their
term in service for the town of Winslow

1365
02:04:55,320 --> 02:05:05,360
uh the first one is uh Steve Russell and
Steve um you know I don't think words

1366
02:05:02,639 --> 02:05:10,400
can express what you've meant to this
Council over the years but Mike ker has

1367
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:14,320
said a few written down a few words that
I like to read that I think is very

1368
02:05:12,079 --> 02:05:17,079
pertinent to your service here on the
Winslow Town

1369
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:26,040
Council I am writing in response to
Steve Russell attending his final

1370
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:32,639
council meeting as a winsell town
councelor on December 14th

1371
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:38,639
2020 in June of this year I retired as
Winslow Town manager after serving in

1372
02:05:35,239 --> 02:05:44,480
that capacity for 14 years during my
time as Town manager St Steve served on

1373
02:05:41,239 --> 02:05:50,440
the winow Town Council for five of those
years he served as Council chair the

1374
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:56,920
following is a summary of not notable
events that Steve has involved with

1375
02:05:53,280 --> 02:06:03,280
during his 20 plus years on the Winslow
Town Council consolidation of the public

1376
02:06:00,639 --> 02:06:09,920
safety dispatch
centers fighting for increases in

1377
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:15,119
Revenue sharing for many
years School management

1378
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:21,800
consolidation the removal of the for
Halifax Dam elcom mov to

1379
02:06:18,119 --> 02:06:25,920
Winslow the Winslow Town chat lman and
Health with

1380
02:06:23,239 --> 02:06:34,159
Tiff broadcasting the town meetings on
local cable TV fort Halifax master

1381
02:06:30,559 --> 02:06:39,960
plan Town Council approving a cdbg grant
for help with a Ryan

1382
02:06:36,159 --> 02:06:44,079
rope the Town Council approval of 2100
square feet addition to the town office

1383
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:48,880
accommodate the police
department Steve has worked diligently

1384
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:53,719
on the Town Council formed the Farmland
working committee and directed committee

1385
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:57,040
to make recommendation of the town can
be more farm friendly

1386
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:07,400
Community the list goes on and on and on
for Steve Junior High building committee

1387
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:11,199
a 50-year interlocal sewer agreement
with the town of

1388
02:07:08,559 --> 02:07:16,040
vabo all these things that Steve has
been there are many many more matters

1389
02:07:13,719 --> 02:07:21,719
addressed by the Town Council in Steve
during his time on the council Steve has

1390
02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:26,880
always been open-minded
and made a point to fully understand the

1391
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:32,440
implications of his decision Steve is
known for his common sense and pragmatic

1392
02:07:29,079 --> 02:07:37,119
approach to problem solving he has been
a tremendous

1393
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:42,320
asset to the town and has helped make
Winslow a much much better place for

1394
02:07:40,599 --> 02:07:47,679
future
Generations I am honored and I think we

1395
02:07:45,079 --> 02:07:53,440
all can say that we are honored to have
known and work with Town councelor Steve

1396
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,440
Russell

1397
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:07,079
i' have to thank Mike for that kind
words um I'm not much making speeches so

1398
02:08:05,159 --> 02:08:11,880
I'm not going to but I appreciate all
the well wishes I received good job

1399
02:08:09,239 --> 02:08:16,079
Steve thank you and Steve this is a a
plaque we couldn't couldn't have a

1400
02:08:14,159 --> 02:08:20,559
meeting but we have a nice plaque for
you for for you you know I appreciate

1401
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:25,480
that thank you anything but it's just
something to look at in the future or

1402
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,480
something you know

1403
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:34,520
but yeah we're gonna miss you
Steve thank you Steve thank you thanks

1404
02:08:32,119 --> 02:08:40,320
Steve thank you Steve I appreciate all
your support thank you Chief thank you

1405
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:45,599
Steve Steve just because you're not on
the council any longer more than welcome

1406
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:50,000
to attend the meetings
yeah I don't know but I got a funny

1407
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:54,320
feeling he's gonna be back some at some
point in time in the future that's just

1408
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:58,920
my uh my he can't stay away for long
that's for

1409
02:08:55,679 --> 02:09:04,920
sure and patri Patricia Herer after six
years is leaving the council and uh

1410
02:09:02,599 --> 02:09:10,800
Trish has served as a town councelor for
the last six years Trish has strive to

1411
02:09:08,559 --> 02:09:15,559
leverage public media sources to inform
the public about matters before the Town

1412
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:19,559
Council Trish was instrumental in
utilizing Facebook to live stream Town

1413
02:09:17,719 --> 02:09:24,679
Council meetings during the pandemic
when Town facilities were closed

1414
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:29,960
in an effort to keep a public informed
she joined a local Facebook group as she

1415
02:09:27,119 --> 02:09:35,559
posted matters related to town business
it has been a pleasure and my pleasure

1416
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:40,800
also to work with Patricia over the last
six years I am sure that her involvement

1417
02:09:38,239 --> 02:09:44,719
in issues will continue and will be an
asset to any

1418
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:51,840
organization that is fortunate to have
her as a member of the organization

1419
02:09:47,159 --> 02:09:57,400
Trish we thank you extremely uh uh for
your service and your dedication to the

1420
02:09:54,920 --> 02:10:04,040
town of Winslow and we thank you for
serving on the Winslow Town

1421
02:10:01,079 --> 02:10:12,239
Council Ray I'll be back I'm in a
different District now so watch

1422
02:10:08,159 --> 02:10:17,239
out thanks trash thank you we've got
thank you trash I'll I'll uh I'll drop

1423
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:20,800
off or we'll somehow get your plaque to
you

1424
02:10:18,119 --> 02:10:28,239
also okay sounds good thank you madam
Council thank you thank you Trish thanks

1425
02:10:25,559 --> 02:10:31,960
Trish just uh maybe we want to extend
public comment now longer than two

1426
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:37,079
minutes now that I'm part of the public
just

1427
02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:42,599
saying be yeah yeah don't test me on the
first public comment you

1428
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:46,360
do oh it'll be fiery you know that for
sure I know I'm not sure I'm not sure

1429
02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:52,360
I'm ready I'm not sure the council's
ready for public comment but maybe maybe

1430
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:55,559
it is we'll uh and and again
you know I can't say enough about the

1431
02:10:54,000 --> 02:11:00,440
people that serve on the winds Town
Council that dedicate your lives and put

1432
02:10:57,679 --> 02:11:06,360
themselves out there not lives but a
dedication it takes to put yourself out

1433
02:11:02,639 --> 02:11:10,840
there and to uh to to handle the call
which is which is great and it's a great

1434
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:17,480
feeling to work with the citizens of the
town of Winslow and to be part of uh

1435
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:23,199
resolving issues and uh um and I'm sure
all the councilors feel that way that is

1436
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:29,520
very rewarding uh to be a counselor and
to try to do the things for the town of

1437
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:34,800
lulo moving on to discussion items now
uh we'll move on to the first item is

1438
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:40,599
mat
Avenue and that will be Paul I believe

1439
02:11:38,239 --> 02:11:46,440
yes I I brought that forward I was
approached last week by Mrs Burns who

1440
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:51,440
presently owns that street her husband
is recently deceased and she is kind of

1441
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:56,559
in a quandry what to do with that road
wondering if we would take it over as a

1442
02:11:53,079 --> 02:12:02,800
public road she now has to maintain it
on her own it is no longer mainly family

1443
02:12:00,199 --> 02:12:05,880
Street it was all maon family at one
time now it's pretty much the public

1444
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:11,880
living in rental
housing so I asked I told her I up a

1445
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:16,800
discussion if it's something the Town
Council would entertain as far as

1446
02:12:14,199 --> 02:12:19,840
accepting that as a public Street if uh
if we do we'll have to go through the

1447
02:12:18,199 --> 02:12:24,599
proper channels and make sure that it's
acceptable it's definitely not going to

1448
02:12:21,559 --> 02:12:29,239
be a full width 60 foot right away like
we do now I mean the the land is not

1449
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:34,280
there but she's willing to do what she
has to do to make it acceptable to give

1450
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:38,480
us a piece of land at the top for a
turnaround and she's just that's why I

1451
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:43,920
brought it up it's it's a council
decision I just uh you know she's pretty

1452
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:47,559
distraught didn't know what to do so I
figured the least we could do is talk

1453
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:53,520
about
it Paul is

1454
02:12:49,920 --> 02:13:00,040
that does the road meet Town spec as far
as how it's built I would probably say

1455
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:06,159
no but we have others in town that we
own from back in the midle days that are

1456
02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:11,280
20 feet wide like Boston Court that they
were accepted many many years ago and we

1457
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:14,719
maintained them the best we can well I
guess I guess that's kind of where I was

1458
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:19,079
going with it is you know and what other
properties what other what others do we

1459
02:13:16,559 --> 02:13:24,559
have in town that are in the same
situation that we have taken over in the

1460
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:28,719
past so right so that's it's s like
you're talking high traffic street so

1461
02:13:26,719 --> 02:13:32,639
it's not and I I went down there last
week I believe there's five properties

1462
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:37,280
on that street so that mean they're all
taxpayers um for her right now I guess

1463
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:41,719
it's a liability because she's kind of
maintaining a public road because it's

1464
02:13:38,679 --> 02:13:46,159
not family members anymore so it's out
there in the liability I would say so I

1465
02:13:44,599 --> 02:13:49,440
asked her she was speaking to her lawyer
I asked her if she could get some kind

1466
02:13:47,480 --> 02:13:54,480
of property survey so we'd at least see
what's involved with the you know what's

1467
02:13:51,559 --> 02:13:58,360
laid out there as a right of way and
it's like I say it's up it's up to the

1468
02:13:55,960 --> 02:14:02,880
council that's you know like I didn't
make any promises I just as told her i'

1469
02:14:01,599 --> 02:14:08,760
bring it up a
discussion and Paul that city sewer City

1470
02:14:05,639 --> 02:14:13,800
water to all five houses I believe so
yes and the turnaround at the end it's a

1471
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:17,400
dead end street right yes but I believe
there's enough land at the end that's

1472
02:14:15,559 --> 02:14:21,679
why I wanted to see a property survey to
see what is available that she could de

1473
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:26,119
to us as part of the the street so that
we'd have a proper turnaround for the

1474
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:29,320
trash truck and the plow trucks chances
are we'd have to plow that with one of

1475
02:14:27,639 --> 02:14:33,320
the smaller trucks it's not big enough
to get the big trucks in but we do that

1476
02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:37,239
on some other streets as
well and those other streets don't

1477
02:14:35,719 --> 02:14:41,360
require a turnaround at the end either
do

1478
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:44,840
they no well we've got oakill terrorist
which is off of Clinton a that has a

1479
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:49,199
turnaround at the bottom that we built a
couple years ago uh we try to keep

1480
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:54,800
turnarounds I hate backing out into
traffic especially on 2011 not the bus

1481
02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:58,760
no absolutely I just just thinking out
loud she she pretty much committed to

1482
02:14:56,880 --> 02:15:02,440
doing whatever she had to do to make it
acceptable and I explained to her that

1483
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:07,360
this was a could be a lengthy process
that probably wouldn't happen this

1484
02:15:04,079 --> 02:15:14,079
winter yeah I mean you would want to do
use your sewer inspection to inspect the

1485
02:15:10,599 --> 02:15:18,639
sewer any type of water inspection that
you would do I would imagine that the

1486
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:24,719
street hasn't been paved for a while is
that correct uh he paved it or has paved

1487
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:29,239
it two or three years ago it's been
fairly freshly paved it wasn't paved

1488
02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:33,679
before that I don't know what condition
it's in right now it's all under the

1489
02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:38,800
snow so do you have uh do you have uh
like plans for placement of the where

1490
02:15:36,199 --> 02:15:43,280
the sewer is where Storm drainage is and
where everything is so that you could

1491
02:15:41,159 --> 02:15:47,920
put it together like how much would it
cost the town in the next 10 years to be

1492
02:15:45,199 --> 02:15:51,719
able to take over this property I don't
have that that physical map right now

1493
02:15:50,559 --> 02:15:55,840
that some
that I was hoping I could get out of her

1494
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:59,040
that maybe she'll she'll pay to have it
surveyed if that's possible to at least

1495
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:04,119
you
know put it on paper what's there and

1496
02:16:02,559 --> 02:16:08,800
what would come with the street how much
of the you know how wide it is and how

1497
02:16:06,119 --> 02:16:14,559
long it is and that type of that type of
work I think we would need that before

1498
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:18,760
least that information before we would
yes I think you know you need to go I'm

1499
02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:23,079
not telling you I mean it's up to Erica
and you to get together to see what

1500
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:26,880
exactly we do need before we can make a
decision on whether we take that treat

1501
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:32,080
and what we are accepting for
liabilities with the property correct I

1502
02:16:30,559 --> 02:16:35,080
just wanted to bring it up a discussion
if if it's something the council didn't

1503
02:16:33,679 --> 02:16:38,319
want to entertain
then the issue would have died there if

1504
02:16:37,359 --> 02:16:43,080
it's something you're willing to
entertain if it meets our specs and we

1505
02:16:41,080 --> 02:16:46,519
can chances are it's not going to meet
all the specs it probably doesn't have

1506
02:16:44,880 --> 02:16:51,760
the amount of gravel we would put in a
new street but I'm going to say most of

1507
02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:55,080
our existing street that were built 50
years ago probably don't meet those

1508
02:16:53,080 --> 02:17:03,359
specifications either
so I guess I guess I don't have any any

1509
02:16:59,960 --> 02:17:07,920
uh problem with continuing the process
and finding the information so that at

1510
02:17:05,880 --> 02:17:13,760
some point in time in the future you
could inform the council as to you know

1511
02:17:11,880 --> 02:17:21,960
where everything is and what the
condition of SE water and the the actual

1512
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:26,880
grade is and if the possibility of
deing the road section over at the end

1513
02:17:24,719 --> 02:17:30,639
for a turnaround
yes that's fine we'll we'll keep working

1514
02:17:29,319 --> 02:17:35,639
forward I just wanted to have some
feeling from the council if does the

1515
02:17:33,399 --> 02:17:40,639
council feel that we should move forward
with Paul gathering information no

1516
02:17:38,399 --> 02:17:46,280
problem here
absolutely yep go ahead okay so move

1517
02:17:44,439 --> 02:17:51,359
ahead Paul and sometime in the spring
come back to us no we we'll work on it

1518
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:54,479
this winter like I say she's uh she's in
the process of talking talking to her

1519
02:17:52,880 --> 02:17:58,479
lawyer I believe he's hasn't been
deceased for more than a couple weeks so

1520
02:17:56,439 --> 02:18:04,599
I'm sure there's a lot of paperwork that
will have to be done on her part

1521
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:10,160
and okay okay sounds good Erica you have
anything else on the on the Madison

1522
02:18:06,599 --> 02:18:14,880
Avenue area Okay uh moving on to the
thank you Paul moving on to the second

1523
02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:20,519
discussion item the church bell uh Jerry
brought this up Jerry would you like to

1524
02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:27,080
comment on the church bell issue right
the church bell is the Bell from the

1525
02:18:24,479 --> 02:18:32,399
East wisell Baptist
Church uh the

1526
02:18:29,599 --> 02:18:37,319
town eight six eight years
ago had to go in and tear down the

1527
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:42,719
church and we picked up the bell and
brought it over to public

1528
02:18:39,599 --> 02:18:51,319
work uh
the uh B was donated to the church I

1529
02:18:48,319 --> 02:18:58,200
can't remember the name of
but there the ones that

1530
02:18:53,719 --> 02:19:06,479
own um what do you call it oh be
Diner and they would like to get that

1531
02:19:00,840 --> 02:19:13,399
Bell back they say that they have a feed
or right to it they want to put it on

1532
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:19,559
their property and
allow U people to come and visit it

1533
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:30,479
couple
of uh hours a week or one hour a

1534
02:19:24,439 --> 02:19:30,479
week uh big problem the thing I have

1535
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:40,719
is uh they had talked
to

1536
02:19:36,359 --> 02:19:46,439
Mike uh h i Mike didn't have a problem
giving him the Bell then it got

1537
02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:54,040
changed so the question is is who's
going to own the Bell do they have legal

1538
02:19:49,399 --> 02:19:57,840
rights to the Bell they are going to get
that

1539
02:19:55,319 --> 02:20:04,240
information and bring it
to provide it to

1540
02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:10,920
uh probably the town
manager at a later

1541
02:20:07,399 --> 02:20:20,359
date and I think it they they told me
that it's registered at the registry of

1542
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:20,359
deeds not sure about that

1543
02:20:24,880 --> 02:20:32,359
okay one of the things that when I had U
when I had saw this on the agenda about

1544
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:38,280
the Bell the Bell was being stored at
the public works I gave Paul and Jerry a

1545
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:43,800
call and we have moved the uh the bell
in the the Assembly of the Bell to the

1546
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:48,960
cold storage building in um at the
public works department so that it's in

1547
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:55,720
a place where it's a lot less uh
affected by the elements and uh the Bell

1548
02:20:52,240 --> 02:21:03,160
is actually um uh from the it's called
the Cs Bell company from U I believe

1549
02:20:59,479 --> 02:21:10,640
it's uh Holbrook Ohio which was
manufactured between

1550
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:16,520
1894 and 1970 obviously this is an older
older of the bell of the research so I

1551
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:21,080
think that you know whatever the the
people uh from the area if they feel

1552
02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:26,319
they have a right to the Bell
uh then uh come and talk to the town

1553
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:31,319
manager and uh you know at least it's in
a it's in a secure place where it's out

1554
02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:36,960
of the elements at the present time
anybody have any other Jared do you have

1555
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:45,399
any other things to say about it if if I
could District fine the only reason is

1556
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:45,399
because they see me in awful

1557
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:56,720
lot Jeff West go ahead yeah it's um
vestors

1558
02:21:53,439 --> 02:22:01,080
and the gentleman is part of the
original Abbott

1559
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:05,000
family and the Abbot family built that
church from what I

1560
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:10,960
gather and he basically wants to do what
they've done over in Waterville over St

1561
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:16,680
Francis with the old Bell from that
church have it

1562
02:22:13,479 --> 02:22:20,920
enclosed um he's actually want put on
his front lawn by the sounds of it so

1563
02:22:19,359 --> 02:22:25,840
that just because it's the history of
his family and he'd like to Bell back

1564
02:22:22,960 --> 02:22:29,080
which to me if he can prove he's part of
that

1565
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:37,920
family what are we going to do with that
bill other than store

1566
02:22:31,960 --> 02:22:37,920
it but that's just my opinion yep

1567
02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:47,000
sure well we like I think the first
thing is to get uh the the uh the people

1568
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:52,240
involved that you know wanted to come
into the town manager and talk to the uh

1569
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:57,120
Town manager uh about the about the
issue I mean you know I think they need

1570
02:22:53,960 --> 02:23:01,920
to prove have some proof of you know the
lineage of it but you if that's the

1571
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:11,600
case that's what they they want they
want to do give us proof that the bill

1572
02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:18,279
belongs to
them that's fine that's fine yeah that's

1573
02:23:15,240 --> 02:23:24,160
fine I mean yeah sounds great uh
anything else about the church bell

1574
02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:34,160
Jerry or anything or no that's good okay
um next item on the is the NLC Service

1575
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:40,680
uh line uh you we both got we all got
that in uh packages and stuff um Erica

1576
02:23:38,399 --> 02:23:45,080
do you want to talk about that a little
bit

1577
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:49,720
um it's kind of a sales pitch but at the
same time it's an opportunity for us to

1578
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:54,240
earn some limited additional Revenue at
pretty much no

1579
02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:57,840
effort on our part um the NLC service
line program it's basically like a

1580
02:23:56,359 --> 02:24:01,760
homeowners warranty but it's
specifically for your water lines and

1581
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:06,760
your sewer lines running from the street
to the house um people a lot of times

1582
02:24:05,319 --> 02:24:10,240
don't realize that those are actually
the homeowners

1583
02:24:08,279 --> 02:24:15,080
responsibility uh and this company
indemnifies them against that so

1584
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:20,720
homeowners can purchase policies that
will cover those lines specifically and

1585
02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:26,680
they only have to um pay a set of amount
no matter what the claim comes out to be

1586
02:24:23,960 --> 02:24:32,439
so I believe they they set on sewer
lines it's something like 3,000 per

1587
02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:37,240
incident is covered U water lines a
different amount um and I don't remember

1588
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:41,680
the exacts on that but the way the
program works is they work through

1589
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:45,960
municipalities in Partnership um
basically because we've got all the

1590
02:24:43,359 --> 02:24:52,960
information on all the homeowners that
are on our services um they do use the

1591
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:56,840
city or the town seal in our case um and
we approve any Communications before

1592
02:24:54,720 --> 02:25:04,880
they send them out it's a direct mail
program they send the um the Flyers to

1593
02:25:01,399 --> 02:25:08,840
all the homes with the town seal on it
uh asking people if they're interested

1594
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:13,479
at all in looking into this program
explaining uh that they do have

1595
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:19,479
liability over those lines and any
policies that are purchased the town

1596
02:25:15,880 --> 02:25:24,200
earns 50 cents per month per policy and
each home could have pump to three

1597
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:27,560
policy um I'm just looking to see if
there's any interest in looking at that

1598
02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:31,840
any further or having them do a
presentation for us at some point I

1599
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:36,920
don't think we're talking a lot of money
but you know any opportunity for extra

1600
02:25:34,240 --> 02:25:41,880
revenue is something that I'm G to at
least check into but I've already had my

1601
02:25:39,800 --> 02:25:46,760
preliminary discussion so now I'm just
looking to see if the council has any

1602
02:25:43,439 --> 02:25:51,680
interest in looking at it any
further um Erica I just have one

1603
02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:55,359
question would they be
willing to give you a community that

1604
02:25:54,080 --> 02:26:01,000
they're already doing it in that you
could get contact with and see he said

1605
02:25:58,880 --> 02:26:04,399
there's only one in Maine right now but
he's got a lot of they've got over 400

1606
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:09,960
communities
um uh Countrywide so yes he will give me

1607
02:26:07,960 --> 02:26:13,640
some others currently they're working
with Portland uh and I believe it's

1608
02:26:12,359 --> 02:26:21,160
their water district that they're
currently working with my my only issue

1609
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:25,800
would be is if it's if they're not
really up to Snuff and notay out not

1610
02:26:24,319 --> 02:26:29,359
paying out what they say they're going
to pay out and I think we could find

1611
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:34,800
that out from another municipality
that's actually doing it with them right

1612
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:38,920
I believe you I I agree we could
probably get that from them um so I

1613
02:26:37,160 --> 02:26:47,920
could certainly ask him
to uh provide some other references in

1614
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:47,920
addition to Town of Portland

1615
02:26:56,080 --> 02:27:05,720
not
C covered oners poliy no most homeowners

1616
02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:11,960
policies do not cover uh those lines
they're not part of the

1617
02:27:09,359 --> 02:27:14,800
um they're one of those things that I
don't know if you could get it on your

1618
02:27:13,160 --> 02:27:20,720
homeowner's policy or not I'd have to
research that further I know um I

1619
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:25,359
personally had to have a policy in ing
because my insurance would not inde

1620
02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:30,680
deify it because the pipes were very old
um so I couldn't get the rider on my

1621
02:27:27,080 --> 02:27:34,960
insurance um and fortunately I never had
to use it but it was one of those things

1622
02:27:32,359 --> 02:27:40,000
that in a community with old pipes as a
homeowner was just a piece of insurance

1623
02:27:37,240 --> 02:27:44,720
now again it all depends on whether
anybody even purchases it as to whether

1624
02:27:42,880 --> 02:27:49,000
there'd be anything in it for us but I
do agree with uh counselor West that we

1625
02:27:47,640 --> 02:27:52,479
would definitely want to make sure that
they've got a good reputation

1626
02:27:50,840 --> 02:27:56,720
um because we wouldn't want to put our
seal on something and then turn around

1627
02:27:55,200 --> 02:28:01,120
and have it be a company that people
fight with to get paid out after they'

1628
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:01,120
paid for the

1629
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:11,000
policy so you'll reach out and do some D
some diligence on I

1630
02:28:07,920 --> 02:28:14,840
will if I get positive reports would
would you all have an interest in them

1631
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:21,359
doing a presentation at a later council
meeting absolutely

1632
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:30,080
yes okay so uh
Erica is this policy from the main to

1633
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:34,399
the
property it's from the curb to the

1634
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:43,640
property basically they sell the policy
on the exterior lines they'll also sell

1635
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:51,640
the third policy is on the interior
plumbing and people can purchase any one

1636
02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:51,640
or all three any combination

1637
02:28:52,040 --> 02:29:00,359
so I know that
do on state

1638
02:28:56,560 --> 02:29:04,840
highways says that the
utility is

1639
02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:10,600
responsible
from the the main to the RightWay

1640
02:29:11,279 --> 02:29:19,399
line correct these policies cover from
that point onto the home

1641
02:29:20,200 --> 02:29:27,040
the RightWay line
on yes which we're Loosely calling the

1642
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:35,399
curb yeah I I wouldn't have a problem
with them try to give us a presentation

1643
02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:38,399
at a later
date

1644
02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:51,960
okay the next item on the agenda is a
facility committee and Erica could you

1645
02:29:49,640 --> 02:29:57,560
go over
sure so at our last meeting um when I

1646
02:29:55,600 --> 02:30:01,760
had brought up wanting to look at
facilities going down the road we talked

1647
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:07,560
uh I was tasked with trying to pull
together a committee for that um one

1648
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:10,760
thing I wanted to reiterate we're at
kind of mission Critical with the fire

1649
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:14,520
station but not with the rest of the
facilities I do want to look at all the

1650
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:19,800
facilities as a package because when you
look at facilities it should be a 10 to

1651
02:30:17,240 --> 02:30:24,040
20 year plan and that's why I want to
look at it all at once I I think some

1652
02:30:22,800 --> 02:30:28,399
people may have thought I was talking
about building something immediately I'm

1653
02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:32,240
not but if we're talking about having to
purchase land to do this in the future

1654
02:30:30,920 --> 02:30:37,359
uh we probably want to look at an
all-encompassing package and uh with an

1655
02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:40,960
eye towards future expansion for
instance when we built the Public Works

1656
02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:46,040
building personally I would have liked
to have seen us have um you know thought

1657
02:30:44,399 --> 02:30:50,319
down the road that hey maybe it would be
good to put a fire station near here or

1658
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:55,279
that's maybe where a police station
should go those are the kinds of things

1659
02:30:52,040 --> 02:30:59,520
I want to investigate um and and this
again is it's a

1660
02:30:57,120 --> 02:31:06,319
long-term project um when I worked
Courthouse expansion in Chesterfield

1661
02:31:01,359 --> 02:31:10,080
that was a 25y year project so um I just
want everybody to understand we we're

1662
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:14,720
looking to put together a facilities
plan that goes into the future not

1663
02:31:12,399 --> 02:31:19,240
necessarily five years from now although
fire is something that we're going to

1664
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:23,680
need to look at sooner um so in talking
to uh people who have expressed an

1665
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:28,520
interest in being on that
committee um Jeff you had said you

1666
02:31:26,120 --> 02:31:34,680
wanted to be on that committee I would
love to thank you Rocky uh you had also

1667
02:31:32,800 --> 02:31:38,840
agreed to be on that committee and
you're not officially in your uh

1668
02:31:36,880 --> 02:31:44,840
counselor capacity yet but I had reached
out to you and Peter

1669
02:31:42,279 --> 02:31:49,479
drapo of course Chief McDade and chief
Rodriguez representing the two uh

1670
02:31:47,560 --> 02:31:54,319
critical infrastructure pieces on the
public safety side and Lynn Cho um for

1671
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:59,880
the planning
board and then I would make number seven

1672
02:31:56,960 --> 02:31:59,880
which gives us an odd

1673
02:32:00,200 --> 02:32:03,720
number sounds like

1674
02:32:07,800 --> 02:32:12,680
fun any other comment or

1675
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:22,720
discussion make a motion to
adour uh not not quite yet please uh one

1676
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:30,080
of the things that we also it's not on I
wanted to bring up is Junior High

1677
02:32:25,960 --> 02:32:35,160
building is that at at the last meeting
or the meeting before we had mentioned

1678
02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:40,960
that we need to form uh the junior high
committee for the uh for the use of the

1679
02:32:37,880 --> 02:32:46,720
Junior High School uh kbap has come up
with a proposal for the junior high

1680
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:52,600
school and we need to investigate that
during the winter months I know there

1681
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:58,680
was some interest that uh Mike heer
would be would chair that committee and

1682
02:32:56,520 --> 02:33:04,520
um I think he has a great Erica to do
that yes he has y so we be looking for

1683
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:11,120
members is there any other I think Steve
you had mentioned a an interest to be on

1684
02:33:07,359 --> 02:33:17,359
that committee yes I would
be yes okay

1685
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:23,680
Steve any other
counselors I'd like that one to if I

1686
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:28,319
yep Jeff any other
counselors yes jury

1687
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:34,680
Jerry because there is already another a

1688
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:45,399
committee
that that's been around for a while we

1689
02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:49,940
have to devolve that one yep because
there's a lot of us on that Committee in

1690
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:52,989
in the beginning CU I
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1691
02:33:54,479 --> 02:34:00,840
right
so would the would the council want to

1692
02:33:59,080 --> 02:34:04,920
dissolve that committee and then form a
new committee and then any of the public

1693
02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:09,479
that wants to be on committee would call
the town office and put their name into

1694
02:34:06,880 --> 02:34:15,880
that committee is there a reason to
dissolve the first

1695
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:19,920
one nobody left that was on
it I think we can invite the members of

1696
02:34:18,439 --> 02:34:25,399
that committee that want to be on the
committee to be on this committee if

1697
02:34:22,439 --> 02:34:29,319
they want to yeah because we we spent a
lot of time on that one

1698
02:34:30,479 --> 02:34:34,160
yeah we don't want to

1699
02:34:35,800 --> 02:34:44,479
dis and then tell them at the end that
sorry we don't want

1700
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:47,080
you Ray wasn't that committee dissolved
after one of the meetings would that get

1701
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:53,880
really
heated not not the not that

1702
02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:53,880
one

1703
02:34:54,520 --> 02:35:01,359
that I thought it was only
suspended because of covid because

1704
02:34:59,800 --> 02:35:04,640
having to go back to actually use that
building I mean and I'm coming in on the

1705
02:35:03,560 --> 02:35:09,080
back end so all I've heard is
scuttlebutt about that but I know Mike

1706
02:35:07,080 --> 02:35:15,560
was talking about getting it going again
it's one of the things he talked to me

1707
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:19,200
about when he came in um I I'm not
exactly sure why we would need a new

1708
02:35:17,279 --> 02:35:26,200
committee but again I'm coming in on the
back end of this

1709
02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:31,720
so don't I don't believe we need a new
committee we might have to have some

1710
02:35:28,479 --> 02:35:35,800
other PE people with some of the other
ones have

1711
02:35:33,520 --> 02:35:40,319
left and
just you know find out how many I think

1712
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:46,720
there was about
what 12 14 on that

1713
02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:50,720
committee there was about a dozen of us
Jerry yeah

1714
02:35:52,240 --> 02:36:02,399
who is the
chair oh try to remember he was he was

1715
02:35:59,240 --> 02:36:11,399
an old assistant uh superintendent he
sells real

1716
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:11,399
estate H I'm try can't think of his

1717
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:21,560
name Cassidy maybe Cassidy yes it
was yeah thank you

1718
02:36:24,520 --> 02:36:31,760
well right now during the winter
obviously the sixth grade is using the

1719
02:36:29,840 --> 02:36:37,800
facility and it's being heated and
utilized at this point in time so this

1720
02:36:33,880 --> 02:36:42,720
winter wasn't an issue uh next winter
depending on you know

1721
02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:47,080
hopefully uh you know we need to we need
KV cus is going to wait forever and

1722
02:36:45,479 --> 02:36:51,359
there's definitely some issues
associated with the building and certain

1723
02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:56,760
portions of the building that have to be
resolved in a period of time dayare is

1724
02:36:54,439 --> 02:37:03,120
also using it AR there right what's that
yeah Child Care is also using that you

1725
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:08,080
know um you know obviously to tear down
the building we're talking about

1726
02:37:05,319 --> 02:37:14,040
$700,000 plus it could be up to a
million something because of the asbest

1727
02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:21,120
removal and I think we need to get a
committee formed uh and to to pick up

1728
02:37:18,680 --> 02:37:24,680
the pieces of the the last committee I'm
I'm for anybody that wants to be on that

1729
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:30,640
committee to be on the committee but a
small working

1730
02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:37,760
group has to push forward with
identifying the issues and identifying

1731
02:37:35,319 --> 02:37:44,880
some resolutions to the issue that can
be brought to the council before the

1732
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:50,040
summer so I don't want to see this
waiting till next fall again when

1733
02:37:50,479 --> 02:37:57,000
um and we're going to have to we're
going to have to spend some money to

1734
02:37:55,080 --> 02:38:02,720
demolish the building kbc's not going to
wait forever

1735
02:37:58,319 --> 02:38:08,040
so I'm for forming whatever we can to
get this committee moving just as fast

1736
02:38:04,960 --> 02:38:13,600
as we can and resolving some of the
issues that's that's pertaining to that

1737
02:38:10,399 --> 02:38:19,960
building the last meeting we had they
hadn't even got the financing yet

1738
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:25,200
right kcat did not actually get the
financing they were still working with

1739
02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:30,000
the uh historical stuff so that's all
been resolved that's why I think we need

1740
02:38:28,040 --> 02:38:36,080
to have a committee to bring the even
the council up to date on the issues and

1741
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:42,240
where we stand with that Junior High
building and what some of the problems

1742
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:47,680
are that we need to resolve to make sure
that the third parties that are

1743
02:38:44,520 --> 02:38:53,439
associated with the facility U are
bedded in are examed and that's why I

1744
02:38:51,359 --> 02:39:00,399
think we need to get moving on it and I
think that Mike is Mike we can start

1745
02:38:57,080 --> 02:39:07,080
through Mike and Erica and Steve is that
we can ask the old members of the

1746
02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:16,080
committee to come in but form um a newer
the old members move project

1747
02:39:10,640 --> 02:39:19,960
forward I do have Mike's folder here and
on the top of the folder there's a list

1748
02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:27,200
of former members which was Ben
twitchell Gary Owen Jack

1749
02:39:23,479 --> 02:39:33,600
Nason Jerry quirion John Cassidy John
Ferry Kenneth Fletcher robette bushard

1750
02:39:30,520 --> 02:39:40,920
Sally Harwood and Shelley Phillips does
that sound right yes it

1751
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:45,840
does so I it's not a huge thick file
but there's a lot of stuff in here I

1752
02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:52,040
think the key certainly we wouldn't be
um starting from scratch yeah I think

1753
02:39:49,080 --> 02:39:56,800
the is going to be to get Mike on that
been involved right from the beginning

1754
02:39:54,560 --> 02:40:01,760
including with the negotiations the
members to uh that are still interested

1755
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,760
in forming the committee and then we'll
move from there in the next couple weeks

1756
02:40:03,439 --> 02:40:10,560
how's
that we could do that I do have to do

1757
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:14,479
budget at some point yeah yeah yeah well
you know this is going to be this is not

1758
02:40:12,680 --> 02:40:19,359
going to be your thing this is a lot of
people have some expertise in this area

1759
02:40:16,720 --> 02:40:25,080
that we worked with before going to be
continuing the process to uh you know

1760
02:40:22,399 --> 02:40:29,319
this this this High building is a
critical building because budget wise

1761
02:40:27,399 --> 02:40:35,560
you know we might not have the budget
for the de demolition of the building

1762
02:40:32,439 --> 02:40:40,640
This this term but we will have to
address that issue maybe the next year

1763
02:40:38,600 --> 02:40:48,000
or even toward this year if we have to
put 500,000 for demolition this year and

1764
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:54,640
maybe 500,000 next year then those are
issues that that do pertain to the

1765
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:59,840
budget to some extent right okay um any
other discussion on forming of the

1766
02:40:57,200 --> 02:41:07,479
junior high building Committee just one
thing say yes uh one of the things it

1767
02:41:03,880 --> 02:41:13,720
wouldn't take that long to set up a
meeting for the original committee

1768
02:41:11,120 --> 02:41:22,040
be we will invite everybody from the
origal committee meeting in

1769
02:41:17,279 --> 02:41:27,640
January yep we she starts reforming
resetting up a meet uh another committee

1770
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:32,760
they'll want to stop back from maybe the
beginning and that's not a good

1771
02:41:30,760 --> 02:41:38,520
thing no I don't think anyone's
advocating that

1772
02:41:35,479 --> 02:41:41,880
Jerry R if there's room I I'd like to be
added to that committee please I think

1773
02:41:40,520 --> 02:41:47,800
there's room for
everybody oh yes yep I think I think

1774
02:41:45,640 --> 02:41:53,040
we'll invite all the members to a
meeting and we'll see see what happens

1775
02:41:49,960 --> 02:41:53,040
after that sometime in

1776
02:41:54,040 --> 02:41:59,080
January sounds good okay any other

1777
02:41:59,240 --> 02:42:07,240
discussion does somebody want to make a
motion to aour hey happy holidays to

1778
02:42:04,640 --> 02:42:11,160
everyone merry Christmas everybody you
too Merry Christmas Merry

1779
02:42:18,160 --> 02:42:22,160
Christmas e