1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,720 When there's two orders, roll call, please. Good evening, council member Ciana, council member Warren, here, council member Casa Vecca, Mayor Potembiasi, Mayor vice, here. 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Thank you. 3 00:00:20,110 --> 00:00:22,290 Miss Gil and Waver, would you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? 4 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Thank you. 5 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:56,820 First up, we have approval of the agenda. The Mayor and Council may change the order of the agenda, or request discussion of a consent item. 6 00:00:57,780 --> 00:00:59,880 Do we want to make any changes? 7 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:02,400 I'd love to approve the agenda. 8 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,440 A motion? 9 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:04,400 A second? 10 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:05,840 A motion in a second. 11 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,440 All those in favour of please me. 12 00:01:07,460 --> 00:01:07,960 I'll be in discussion. 13 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,480 Oh, he's... 14 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,420 He's the only one who pulled three J for the discussion. 15 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Yes? 16 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:19,600 I meant my motion to move three J to discussion. 17 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:21,040 I meant my second. 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Okay. 19 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:24,280 I like the pace though. 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,380 Come on. 21 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:30,260 So we're moving Jay to discussion. 22 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:34,510 It's a long adoption 23 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:40,190 and resolution after rising city manager to execute an agreement 24 00:01:40,190 --> 00:01:46,670 that law night incorporates investigative evidence analysis technology produced by the 25 00:01:46,670 --> 00:01:48,190 winters, please inform me. 26 00:01:56,890 --> 00:01:57,090 Okay. 27 00:01:57,430 --> 00:01:58,570 So moving round along. 28 00:01:59,450 --> 00:02:00,810 We have a lot of shame in it. 29 00:02:01,490 --> 00:02:01,970 We do. 30 00:02:02,290 --> 00:02:04,110 We can tell us about the call the vote. 31 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:05,690 All right, let's step to next. 32 00:02:06,350 --> 00:02:06,450 All right. 33 00:02:07,390 --> 00:02:07,970 All right. 34 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:08,070 All right. 35 00:02:08,910 --> 00:02:09,150 All right. 36 00:02:10,190 --> 00:02:10,510 Pause. 37 00:02:11,390 --> 00:02:11,550 None. 38 00:02:12,010 --> 00:02:12,530 Motion carries. 39 00:02:14,780 --> 00:02:17,500 We have no special presentation to see me. 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,060 Excuse me. 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Item number two on our agenda today is 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,620 Just public comment. 43 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:25,600 This time it revered for members of the public 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,520 to adjust the city council on items that are not on the agenda. 45 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:31,280 You know, within the subject matter, 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:37,300 jurisdiction of the city council. Comments are limited to three minutes. Comments for 47 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:43,060 items on the open session agenda will be taken in the items called in open session. 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,180 City council is prohibited by law from taking any action on matters discussed, 49 00:02:48,660 --> 00:02:53,800 or not on the agenda. And no adverse conclusion should be drawn if the city council 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:00,860 does not respond to a couple public comments at this time. And with that, I call for public comment 51 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:07,520 I see none, so we will move on ahead. 52 00:03:08,940 --> 00:03:10,400 Now we have the consent calendar. 53 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:11,040 All right. 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,160 We're good to go this way. 55 00:03:14,580 --> 00:03:15,260 Oh, no, I'm sorry. 56 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,580 All I'm interested in the consent calendar 57 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:20,440 considered an act upon by one motion. 58 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:23,180 Anyone may request an item to be removed 59 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:24,540 for separate consideration. 60 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:27,560 Council Member Kassaveki has asked for 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,200 J to be moved to discussion 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,340 that anyone else wish to move items. 63 00:03:34,780 --> 00:03:41,200 seen none. I will call for motion. I remember we approved a consent calendar with Adam 64 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,380 Joe moved to discussion. Second. Second. 65 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:49,160 You have motion in the second, although it was in favour of please say aye. 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,060 Aye. All right. 67 00:03:55,930 --> 00:04:00,510 There are no public hearings this evening, so we moved right to discussion 68 00:04:00,510 --> 00:04:01,010 items. 69 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:17,890 Item A under discussion items. Amendment number 8 to agreement with Kennedy Janks 70 00:04:17,890 --> 00:04:25,970 consultants for hexavailing chromium 6 compliance. We go hand that off to our city manager, 71 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:32,030 Jeremy Craig. Thank you, Mayor. This evening you have a recommendation to approve amendment 72 00:04:32,030 --> 00:04:38,270 number 8 to the Canadian Jinks agreement. This agreement will actually produce to the final 73 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:43,350 construction phase of the Chrome 6 implementation at well number 8. 74 00:04:44,290 --> 00:04:48,390 I asked Alan for a quick the city engineer for a quick update since he was 75 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:49,550 able to be here this evening. 76 00:04:50,130 --> 00:04:53,950 We'll be coming back next month with a full presentation updating our Chrome 6, 77 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:57,030 but I didn't share some information for you if I'm going to read it, 78 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:58,830 so I don't accidentally mistaken anything. 79 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:11,920 With the pre-design report completed, we have about 20% through designing, tonight's actual allow, full design commenced with the plan to finalize bid documents in secret in March of 2027. 80 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:16,340 We've posed about to bid in March of the latest, which was in the morning early May. 81 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,700 We have towed by the state that once we are in construction, they'll finally consider an extension to the October deadline. 82 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:25,000 The current issue we have is a long-leam time for major equipment. 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,620 And so one of the items we're looking at is potentially looking at precuring that equipment 84 00:05:30,620 --> 00:05:34,960 in advance rather than waiting for a merit-tosh to order it. 85 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,000 So we're generally considering that, I know Alan says preliminary conversation with Brian 86 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,000 on what that might look like to help expedite the project once we have that underway. 87 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:50,480 On the revenue side, in terms of pain, for the coming stage project, we're continuing to 88 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,400 pursue funds through the State Water Board. 89 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,560 We've completed the application last month. We'll wait and hear back from them. We've requested 90 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:04,820 essentially a grant to cover the cost of the implementation. So the fall back from the 91 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:10,240 grant would be a loan through the C wronging fund. So we had not heard back from them at this 92 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,020 point, but we have completed all the application process and it is in with the state. So hopefully 93 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:19,120 we'll have an update in the coming weeks on that, or at least initial feedback from the state. 94 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:27,000 So, this will give us to that 100% design at the first of next year, to go out to contract, 95 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,520 to get to that October 27 deadline. 96 00:06:33,190 --> 00:06:35,130 We prepared that equipment ahead of time. 97 00:06:36,490 --> 00:06:39,470 That would go and make one of the things we would have to reimburse them for. 98 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:45,070 Yeah, Allen's current concern in his charting of the project timeline is some of these things 99 00:06:45,070 --> 00:06:51,330 have very long lead times, and Maritage is not ordering them waiting for agreement to complete it with the city for reimbursement. 100 00:06:52,110 --> 00:06:58,750 So Alan was considering the potential of us, essentially procuring those key items in advance just to get the wait time underway. 101 00:07:00,110 --> 00:07:03,810 Because I think the electric panel, it's eight to nine months. 102 00:07:04,630 --> 00:07:05,390 Yeah, it's eight years. 103 00:07:05,710 --> 00:07:09,610 Switching here has been a long lead item for several years now. 104 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:12,270 Right, so there's a few items like that that we would consider. 105 00:07:12,470 --> 00:07:14,210 I know Alan had a plenary conversation with Brian. 106 00:07:15,150 --> 00:07:19,250 But that's something we may bring back to you if we think it would help us towards that October deadline. 107 00:07:19,250 --> 00:07:21,690 We only do everything to meet the deadline that we can. 108 00:07:22,630 --> 00:07:23,110 It is favorable. 109 00:07:23,410 --> 00:07:25,250 We've had the conversation that we're well underway. 110 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:26,650 We're implementing it. 111 00:07:26,650 --> 00:07:30,050 It comes down to a single piece of equipment that'll hold me this up 112 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:32,990 that they'll look fabulous in the fact that we're working on compliance 113 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:35,850 and we're well underway and not dragging our feet. 114 00:07:37,150 --> 00:07:39,830 So we're hoping that will be, but this design is a key component 115 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:42,390 of getting that done and we need to get that under contract now 116 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:45,810 to get that process performed over the holiday, basically. 117 00:07:46,310 --> 00:07:53,810 So at 20% they've already sort of selected the equipment they need to use to make the thing more correct. 118 00:07:54,830 --> 00:07:59,050 Question, do you have a backup generator spreader that does that help? 119 00:08:00,210 --> 00:08:02,890 If I recall, other developed out, but I believe it is. 120 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:07,970 I believe it's part of that work, because it has to be able to continue operating the filtration system. 121 00:08:08,430 --> 00:08:12,950 The filtration system creates an extra load to the system, which is why the pump needs to be oversized, 122 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:18,550 electrical values be oversized, and then there's the design of the layout of the facility to 123 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:23,990 allow the trucks to get in and out. Try to explain to it very, it's very sophisticated 124 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:29,730 burn-of-filter. We're pushing water through several chambers of fine filtration, which creates 125 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:36,790 sludge that has to be disposed of correctly. So there's a recharge system with that, the SMI has to 126 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:41,110 come in essentially, it's not a SMI but it's a similar science truck that comes in to do that 127 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:46,330 charge and clean the canister, so we have to design the site to accommodate that also without 128 00:08:46,330 --> 00:08:47,570 disrupting any traffic. 129 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:53,170 Sir, a trigger point that would trigger us to go and purchase the equipment. 130 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:57,410 I think right now we're exploring what those lead times are and where we are on the 131 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:58,110 Maritosa Agreement. 132 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:03,490 I think that will have more to do with it, if Brian feels comfortable that we're going to 133 00:09:03,490 --> 00:09:06,890 have something to use soon and we can get it underway then we wouldn't pursue that, but 134 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:10,910 if we don't fill it, we're going to get that with Maritosa soon enough, we might consider 135 00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:12,410 and can bring something back to you. 136 00:09:12,510 --> 00:09:16,330 Is there any discussions with Dixon back of L, 137 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:19,150 about possible JPA to join the address 138 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:21,490 that problem between all three of us? 139 00:09:21,610 --> 00:09:25,910 So you know, they were the ones that were affected locally 140 00:09:26,490 --> 00:09:27,410 and at the lawsuit. 141 00:09:28,270 --> 00:09:29,710 Dixon's already has there. 142 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:30,170 They're already done. 143 00:09:30,190 --> 00:09:31,330 They're solution in place. 144 00:09:31,890 --> 00:09:32,650 I mean, underway. 145 00:09:32,910 --> 00:09:34,770 I guess it would be the way to put it. 146 00:09:34,990 --> 00:09:36,810 I'm not sure what back of those doing this point, 147 00:09:36,850 --> 00:09:37,970 because they have three water sources. 148 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:39,490 They have surface water. 149 00:09:39,490 --> 00:09:45,070 and if state water and then they have wells, so I'm not sure if they're just changing their 150 00:09:45,070 --> 00:09:49,550 allocations or they're going to address it well, I'm not sure on that, not that fast. 151 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:58,280 Yeah, I see we're being asked to extend the agreement to the end of December next year 152 00:09:59,010 --> 00:09:59,690 at this time. 153 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,720 This all was worked with all the plans, all the total engineering will be done by the end of this year or early next year. 154 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:15,540 They proposed to over the 100% in March, and then they would help us through the RP process, which would take us a little further into the year. 155 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:26,800 So this puts it what we're looking at around 933,000, close to a million dollars already just in planning. It's amazing how much the engineering and planning costs. 156 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,140 So this is all coming out of the water fund. 157 00:10:31,220 --> 00:10:32,420 I know the water fund at this point. 158 00:10:32,540 --> 00:10:33,340 Don't be fine funding. 159 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,900 You know what that leaves in our water fund? 160 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:39,260 Currently we had about 2.8 million going in. 161 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,940 So we'll definitely take a hit while we're looking for financing. 162 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,520 So the hope is that I have that financing in place. 163 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,240 By the end of this year, a person next year, 164 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,880 so we don't have to draw about any further. 165 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,200 If you have an idea on going maintenance costs would be of these additional bits. 166 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,820 We received some preliminary estimates, but it really depends on final design, so we'll 167 00:10:58,820 --> 00:11:00,140 know more once this is completed. 168 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,960 They told us it was between 125 and 200,000 depending on the volume that goes through, 169 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,020 because it used up the filter based upon the volumes that come from what's at, not just 170 00:11:12,020 --> 00:11:17,920 the one solution we have, which is, well, the filtration itself gets used up based upon the 171 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,320 volume of water pushed through it. 172 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Our strategy is to use wells 2 and 4, which don't have the chrome 6 issue as our 173 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,580 forge priorities. 174 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,500 Well, it would be providing the rest, so we'd limit the volumes through that. 175 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,780 We're not going to over-pump it if we don't have to, that's a stretch of the life of that. 176 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,260 So that how much we have to put through it will determine how much it has to be, reach 177 00:11:38,260 --> 00:11:40,380 our approach that will determine that total operating cost. 178 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,680 If our final design will hopefully give us a better idea what that looks like. 179 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:56,160 I remember when we touched the water board, we asked them again about blending, measuring at the tap, not the, well, yes, we had that discussion and that's not going to be considered. 180 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,220 They've done some limited with that across the state, but it's people who have surface water. 181 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,220 So it's 0.00. 182 00:12:03,220 --> 00:12:12,700 So do we know what that measurement might be if we did blend it right out with the stands? 183 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,120 We don't. 184 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:16,840 Our challenge is to blend it. 185 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:19,820 We would have to put in a tank, take all the water up to the tank, and then bring it back 186 00:12:19,820 --> 00:12:20,340 through the system. 187 00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:32,000 People use surface water they have in another system of treatment, it's just, it's costly, 188 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:33,880 it's both doing here, correct? 189 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,140 Yeah, most surface treatment plants are using reverse osmosis, some other level, you know, 190 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:46,560 level of filtration already. So it takes out most of the heavy elements for it. It's put 191 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:48,480 in the system. Okay. 192 00:12:54,270 --> 00:12:59,150 I just think we're very wise for moving forward at this pace and 193 00:13:00,870 --> 00:13:07,550 with inflation for buying these expensive parts and with maybe competition with other cities that need 194 00:13:07,550 --> 00:13:13,090 to buy these parts. I think it's wise and I'm glad that we're respecting the timeline and moving forward. 195 00:13:13,610 --> 00:13:24,850 I want to ask you a question about who do we have the sort of answer that I need to 196 00:13:24,850 --> 00:13:28,650 be in on our operating system, but I don't know what I'm trying to ask it. 197 00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:31,730 My understanding is I'll double check that with Eric. 198 00:13:32,110 --> 00:13:36,730 But my understanding is yes we have someone, because of the way this filtration system is set 199 00:13:36,730 --> 00:13:41,210 up, it doesn't impact too much, those requirements, but I'll double check whether I can be 200 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:41,570 sure. 201 00:13:44,820 --> 00:14:01,460 Sure, Jeremy, if you could, we had a discussion during the gender review regarding our city is one of the first months out of the gay in sort of moving forward out of the 120 in the states that are doing this. 202 00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:11,180 So, one of the reasons we're doing is because when the crunch comes, getting the equipment and getting the contractors to do the work will be much more difficult. 203 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:17,720 correct, correct. Our approach had been to try to get ahead of the process. One to better 204 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,040 understand the impacts that we have time to come up with what we were going to address it. 205 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:26,420 But also knowing there's limited funding available and there's also a push where you have 206 00:14:26,420 --> 00:14:31,200 so many agencies doing the same process at once. That was going to drive cost up. We wanted 207 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,280 to be ahead of that curve. So that's why we've been working on trying to make sure we're 208 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,580 time line and working. 209 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:45,020 So because we're really in the time cycle, I guess. Do you think 210 00:14:45,020 --> 00:14:49,780 that? I mean, they have no idea, but my help was with the water board, sort of being in line, 211 00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:57,300 they'd qualify for some, I hope on the pine empty. I hope so when we met with the water board, 212 00:14:58,980 --> 00:14:59,680 one of the things we... 213 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:10,860 We want to be your great example. We want to be someone you point to to say, we got us done effectively in a way that didn't hurt the city financially. Here's how we did it. 214 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:20,400 And so we're really trying to work with them to make sure they understand what we're doing, working hard, and then the hope is again that some funding is available to help offset these costs. 215 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:26,190 Thank you. Thank you. Any additional questions? 216 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,660 Are there any questions from the public? 217 00:15:36,350 --> 00:15:41,030 Please come to the microphone and identify yourself and your address. 218 00:15:43,190 --> 00:15:44,110 Thank you. 219 00:15:44,190 --> 00:15:44,710 Thank you. 220 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,820 Do you know any of our members? 221 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:54,040 Yes, please. 222 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 8-4-6, West Main Street. 223 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:00,340 And just during your discussion, I was just trying to follow up about the... 224 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,120 John, when you're talking about a solution, you're talking about you have a solution for 225 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,180 what already that's in the works or when you're talking about a solution it's for across 226 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:10,860 the market. 227 00:16:12,180 --> 00:16:15,400 So, so the solution, so community agencies aren't environmental engineer that is designing 228 00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:16,720 the fix. 229 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,980 And what they determined was, well, aid is being constructed right now as a new well. 230 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:25,640 Because of that, we have the site ability to design the treatment there and combining 231 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,040 that with wells 2 and 4, those 3 wells will meet the needs of the city as it currently 232 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:30,580 It is. 233 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,460 Now one of the things we mentioned often and we've mentioned with the State Waterboard is, 234 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:38,640 this will take care of what's on the books for current development. 235 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:44,580 So if I'm said we'll be fine, you know, all it will be fine, any major above that we're 236 00:16:44,580 --> 00:16:46,060 going to have to really look at our water availability. 237 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,540 We may have to add additional solution, have a phase two, which can be deemed as identified 238 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:51,280 also. 239 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,080 But initial phase one, which is October 27, then I were facing the well eight work combined 240 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,980 as well as 24 won't need the city's needs. 241 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:05,140 Okay, and then the planning that you're considering paying for that's the plan for all of the last. 242 00:17:05,860 --> 00:17:07,340 Well, that just for that eight. 243 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:10,500 This one we're having before tonight is the final design of the well-a-treatment. 244 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:13,040 Thank you. 245 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:13,980 We've got it. 246 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:15,480 Thank you. 247 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,980 There's no one else. 248 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,960 I guess there are no more questions from the public. 249 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:36,960 I would move the staff recommendation for the staff recommendation for resolution 2026-51 and the three items that are accomplishes. 250 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,440 No second net. 251 00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:40,240 Go. 252 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,280 A motion and a second. 253 00:17:46,810 --> 00:17:47,130 Brian. 254 00:17:48,090 --> 00:17:50,930 Is this a roll call or is it can be just a. 255 00:17:51,030 --> 00:17:51,970 No, this is just. 256 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:52,310 Just regular. 257 00:17:52,650 --> 00:17:52,850 Okay. 258 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:53,990 Okay. 259 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:55,790 All those in favor please say aye. 260 00:17:55,790 --> 00:17:56,230 Aye. 261 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:59,150 All opposed, motion carries, 262 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:10,140 item B, resolution 202650, approving the formation of an 263 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:16,180 endowment fund at your local community foundation to administer and manage donated funds 264 00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:21,760 from the Richard R. Lao Games, living trust, to benefit the winter's community 265 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Swim Program in authorizing the city manager to execute agreement on behalf of the city. 266 00:18:29,540 --> 00:18:33,920 And looking up and I see Kathy Matthews's committee meeting. 267 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,380 Good evening. 268 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,480 I'm here before you. 269 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,680 You read the resolution and the request to set up an endowment at the city community Swim Program 270 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:49,000 is the designated beneficiary of a gift from the Richard R. Lagan's living trust of $300,000. 271 00:18:49,000 --> 00:19:02,240 And with that comes in stipulations and some requests about the desires of the donor and that was to invest those funds so that every year there would be money to reinvest in the swim program. 272 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,120 His desire was to get students in the pool learning how to swim at all ages. 273 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:20,000 He was a member of the community here, he worked very closely with Bobby Greenwood as a coach behind the scenes and as a volunteer, so this passion definitely was in that area of swim. 274 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:31,620 He also designated Bruce Rominger as an individual to help guide the investment and the structure that's identified in the living trust. 275 00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:38,120 And it's a unique structure, and so getting it to perfectly, with the trustee and the trust 276 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:43,960 and with folks, we have identified that the best solution is to set up an endowment with 277 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,580 the European Community Foundation, that money will be invested according to their structure 278 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:52,100 and will return about four percent. 279 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,620 It's been pretty consistent for over a decade that will allow us to use those programs 280 00:19:57,620 --> 00:19:59,700 to invest, use those funds too. 281 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:09,520 Invest in programs that will indeed bring kids into the poll and learn how to swim and his legacy will last and live in perpetuity. 282 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:25,940 So that's the request before years to allow the city manager to enter into that agreement to take those funds through the trust, put them into the endowment, and allow them to grow and live and return to the community each and every year. 283 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,500 Thank you. 284 00:20:33,130 --> 00:20:36,810 I'm just really, very, very, very, very happy. 285 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:40,830 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 286 00:20:42,010 --> 00:20:43,430 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 287 00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:49,470 Is there a discussion about the way of acknowledging his relation? 288 00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:52,410 Yes, so we had a lot of conversation, 289 00:20:52,590 --> 00:20:55,090 I had a lot of conversation with Mr. Rominger 290 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:57,570 and with the trustee of the trust. 291 00:20:58,010 --> 00:21:00,390 And he does identify some things 292 00:21:00,390 --> 00:21:03,790 And one is, he would like to see a plaque at the pool 293 00:21:03,790 --> 00:21:07,250 and acknowledgement these funds are specifically intended 294 00:21:07,910 --> 00:21:11,370 to use for purposes other than maintenance, 295 00:21:12,010 --> 00:21:14,470 chlorine, those kinds of things, 296 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:18,390 and that we would continually, each year when we get those 297 00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:21,490 these funds, but we would remind the community 298 00:21:21,490 --> 00:21:24,510 that they're there because his passion was 299 00:21:24,510 --> 00:21:26,210 having kids learn to swim. 300 00:21:26,570 --> 00:21:29,450 And he wants the community to be encouraged in that way, 301 00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:32,810 And he wants more kids in the pool learning how to swim. 302 00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:34,470 He was a coach. 303 00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:37,190 He was a great volunteer. 304 00:21:37,870 --> 00:21:40,370 And he was definitely a proponent of swimming. 305 00:21:40,510 --> 00:21:46,330 Even after moving out of the community and living in the NACA area 306 00:21:46,330 --> 00:21:51,030 for quite some time, he remembered the program here. 307 00:21:51,170 --> 00:21:56,570 And he left it in his trust because that was definitely his passion. 308 00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:06,470 I mean we're doing it. Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Yeah, just so I'm very thankful that this 309 00:22:07,550 --> 00:22:15,830 Mr. Ragn says put this in as well and trust and he's donating this $300,000 to the city for the Swim Program. 310 00:22:16,550 --> 00:22:23,270 I think it's great. I'm just a question I have. I said I want to establish a percentage of the fund is made available to support program. 311 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:26,290 So what's the percentage of the fund? 312 00:22:27,610 --> 00:22:47,270 So currently, so when you endow the funds with the Yellow Community Foundation, they're in partnership with the Sacramento Regional Community Foundation and they are the administrators and the investors, and they have a mathematical formula to determine what the spin ratio is going to be. 313 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:49,750 And it's based on their investment poll. 314 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:54,550 This endowment will be invested along with all the rest of the endowments that they hold. 315 00:22:55,210 --> 00:22:59,230 And the proceeds from that in the past decade have been about 4%. 316 00:22:59,230 --> 00:23:07,510 So coming back to the city of Winters will be just over 10,000 between 10,000 and 12,000 on the investment. 317 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:14,110 The endowment that's going to be set up will be set up with the 300,000 that's coming from the trust. 318 00:23:14,110 --> 00:23:21,430 There is also a checking account at first northern with other funds for the Winters 319 00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:30,410 community swim program of about 15,000, so the opening bounce will be about $315,000 and 320 00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:33,110 that investment will be there. 321 00:23:33,290 --> 00:23:43,350 So once the funds are endowed, they become assets of the foundation and the return comes 322 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:51,190 to the City of Winters Community Swim Program as the sole and only designated beneficiary of that endowment. 323 00:23:52,050 --> 00:24:01,550 Should any time the City of Winters cease to operate that community swim program, which is not foreseeable, 324 00:24:01,710 --> 00:24:07,330 there is a secondary beneficiary identified both in the trust and in the endowment documents 325 00:24:07,330 --> 00:24:11,570 and that is the Winters High School Athletic Department. 326 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:24,260 It also says that we based on a 12-quarter average, we have to wait 12 quarters before anything comes back to the city or it will be immediate. 327 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:34,980 No, so it's based on timing and we're going to hit the timing everybody involved in this wants to hit the timing which is the end of September. 328 00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:43,040 And so if I'm down, I'm going to set up by the end of September, which were slated to have 329 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,620 it set up with your approval by the end of the week and funded by the end of the week. 330 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:58,860 Then we will be able to get a usable designation for the current year and be able to invest 331 00:24:58,860 --> 00:24:59,400 that. 332 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:09,120 We go into next summer and we look at extending things that are already in place, like the Learn to Swim Safe Program and those kinds of things. 333 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:13,820 That's what his heart was and those are the kinds of things that the city of winter as well. 334 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:16,740 Look to furthering with this endowment. 335 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,380 Great, thank you. 336 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:19,200 You're welcome. 337 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:24,580 So, they have investments set up already that they routinely do? 338 00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:27,520 Yes, so they have a full investment team. 339 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:34,120 you can visit the website. It's a very informative. We have other holding 340 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:38,920 there with yellow community foundation including the elderberry 341 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:46,680 mitigation fund which is also an endowed fund and a designated fund for the 342 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:52,420 community center furniture and fixtures. Do we know what they're investing in 343 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:55,900 or per cent over that time period seems very low. 344 00:25:56,780 --> 00:25:58,980 But you can't even sort of invest when I got ice-oom. 345 00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:05,240 Well, I would not say, if you're asking my personal opinion, 346 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,040 I would not say it's conservative. 347 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:12,540 I would say their investment strategies are sound, 348 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:17,060 and they return a good return annually. 349 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,900 You can look at their financials. 350 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:20,740 You can look at their investment portfolio 351 00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:31,900 and their strategy, the 4% that is opened through our automatic annual spinning is a designated 352 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:37,260 decision based on their endowment investment strategies. 353 00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:41,620 That's not their returns, that's just what they've got to do. 354 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:54,350 If there's more this in down in the setup, we'll say there's another family in town that 355 00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:59,430 wants to leave contribute to the fund. 356 00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:00,410 Was that possible? 357 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:09,310 And that's the unique thing about having this not having, it could have been let's set it up 358 00:27:09,310 --> 00:27:19,030 another way and have individuals as investors and individuals making decisions on use of funds 359 00:27:19,030 --> 00:27:27,210 annually that doesn't really align with what the trust states is, the donors, trade desire, 360 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:31,830 and so following that everybody involved believes this is the best choice. 361 00:27:32,350 --> 00:27:38,050 And one of the reasons are what you mentioned is that this is a global foundation. 362 00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:41,350 and they do have a lot of outreach in the community. 363 00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:47,290 And there are other people out there that believe teaching youth and youngsters how to swim 364 00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:53,650 is vitally important and they would be very much inclined to be attracted to that kind 365 00:27:53,650 --> 00:27:54,430 of a fund. 366 00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:56,750 And so that portfolio is going to be out there. 367 00:27:56,750 --> 00:28:01,930 It will be out there through the yellow community foundation and the Sacramento Regional Community 368 00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:02,510 Foundation. 369 00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:09,070 And so, anybody that any donor that just wants to say, hey, I want to make a charitable 370 00:28:09,070 --> 00:28:14,710 contribution and support something that my aligns with my heart could go to that foundation. 371 00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:21,490 They'll see all of the information we got in the Dick Laggins, Winners Community, Swim 372 00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:29,130 Program, Fund, and look at and read what it's about, look how it's spending the community, read 373 00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:35,330 stories that we were right, so we will report annually on how we're using those funds, 374 00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:40,510 the generated funds, and they could decide to add to the endowment as well. 375 00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:41,810 Anybody can do that. 376 00:28:41,950 --> 00:28:42,690 Thank you very much. 377 00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:46,350 But that beneficiary will always be the city winners. 378 00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:48,350 Yeah. 379 00:28:48,490 --> 00:28:49,470 I think I've seen that before. 380 00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:54,030 Like when they do the big day of giving, you can give to the yellow community foundation 381 00:28:54,030 --> 00:28:57,370 and designate, which one you want to go to. 382 00:29:01,570 --> 00:29:06,110 I mean, this is a good size and doubtment and doubtment, because I didn't know Mr. 383 00:29:06,290 --> 00:29:11,090 Logins, I don't think I ever met him, but he kind of kind of up to a real fight market 384 00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:18,370 persons who were left crippled in the amount of funds in which the public were met 385 00:29:18,370 --> 00:29:18,890 library. 386 00:29:20,130 --> 00:29:20,210 Yes. 387 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:33,170 Especially the program at Jeremy Highlight Forest where teaching little little kids 388 00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:39,730 how to be water safe and being watered. So I think it'll change lives. 389 00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:43,270 So anyone else? 390 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:48,400 We have motion. 391 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Whoop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. 392 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,860 Let me pop the comment. You're the only public tonight. 393 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,980 That's somebody online. 394 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,100 What's your name? 395 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,760 I don't know. 396 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,160 I don't know. 397 00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:06,400 I'm trying to guess. 398 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,700 Yeah, I don't know. 399 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,520 What's that other name? 400 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:12,920 Denton Carson. 401 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,620 I don't know. 402 00:30:14,860 --> 00:30:15,480 Okay. 403 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:19,160 We have the front on that. 404 00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:21,380 I can make it bigger. 405 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,280 Can't read it. 406 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:25,140 Oh, thank you. 407 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,580 Wow. 408 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:34,580 I don't know if there's no public comment I'd like to make the most and just ask that. 409 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:44,560 We have an ability in the future to annually thank donors to publicly in the winners' express 410 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,880 so that people know that the families of people that have donated are being honored. 411 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,640 And with that, I moved the item before us. 412 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Councilor Lorne? 413 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,700 Could I recommend could you also approve staff doing a plaque at the Swim Safe Point? 414 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:02,280 Yes. 415 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,960 I would. 416 00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:11,860 I'm moving the resolution 2026-50, approving the formation of an endowment fund, 417 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,880 a stated in the staff report, and also. 418 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,540 Conclusion. 419 00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:19,600 I know. 420 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,180 Yes. 421 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Good. 422 00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:21,820 Yeah. 423 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:25,780 Yeah. I stayed in the city manager. I'm tired. 424 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:27,980 I'll second that. 425 00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:30,080 We have a motion in a second. 426 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,520 All those in favour please say aye. 427 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,040 Opposed. 428 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,280 None. Motion carries. 429 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,580 All right. 430 00:31:42,170 --> 00:31:45,730 Item C. Resolution 202649. 431 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:49,730 Approving the winter's highlands. 432 00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:51,030 Project completion. 433 00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:52,850 Improves. Reserves. 434 00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:58,050 storage ship agreement. 435 00:31:58,090 --> 00:32:00,310 Excuse me. 436 00:32:00,350 --> 00:32:05,050 So I think to the staff report for City Manager Craig. 437 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:06,170 Thank you, Mayor. 438 00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:10,130 The City Manager staff is recommending approval of theiner's Highland Project completion 439 00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:11,390 and preserved of the Stewardship Agreement. 440 00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:14,850 Zerina, could you do me a favor for attachment three? 441 00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:18,650 Just so we can see the map. 442 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:29,640 There we go. 443 00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:36,960 So as part of the homes by town section of the winter's Highlands, there was a preserve of a requirement, 444 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,220 which you see the red box area there, as many slew at the top, this area has been preserved. 445 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:46,760 There's a varnal pole that's circled in blue there. 446 00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:56,900 Part of the requirement for winter's Highlands and the HPT was responsible for was creating a preserve of this area to make sure that was contained. 447 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,720 They were not successful on finding a nonprofit willing to take on the project, 448 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,620 I think, because it's so small and works located. 449 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:12,380 So what's before you tonight is the city taking on that obligation to complete that. 450 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,080 Essentially, we would take it on as maintenance. 451 00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:18,480 We honestly have already been doing the fire mitigation that area each year 452 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,300 to make sure it states safe because all the neighbors around it. 453 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:27,140 So, essentially what we're disin-within-tow is fencing and science in the Cape. 454 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,660 There's just an environmentally sensitive area on the vertical pool side. 455 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,460 The rest of us really just left us a buffer area to keep people away from the sensitive area. 456 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:43,460 In recognition of that, HBT is agreed to make a one-time payment of 1.1 million dollars to the city 457 00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:46,100 to help offset the cost related to that. 458 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:51,180 also to convey sight-three, the face-three of the three Oaks Park. 459 00:33:52,120 --> 00:34:00,460 So those funds that aren't spent on the 15th and signage needed there could then be repurposed to face-three of the park and getting that section of park completed. 460 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,220 So that's the recommendation before you this evening. 461 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:07,560 Thank you. 462 00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:10,640 I think it's a great solution. 463 00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:13,940 I'd like to see, let me discuss that. 464 00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:23,580 I mean, you can get some vegetation in there and plant some native drought tolerant and low maintenance. 465 00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:33,640 Plant some native kind of supplies and habitat, roads and pollinators and just make it look a little more interesting. 466 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,960 I know, guy, they can get us a butterfly guard. 467 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,540 So yeah, definitely we can look at, as part of setting up the preserve element, those are all things we can incorporate into the design. 468 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:53,700 The main concern is protect the Ronald Paul preventing cross-sortraphic that might damage it, burden the dry seasons. 469 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,560 And adding to the comment I would like to think to have openings. 470 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:10,680 Login for any animals that want to access it, like a vacuum, size, okay. And it's also have a plaque. 471 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:14,700 There's a black cap that regularly hunts that field. 472 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:17,280 Well, let's let it in there. 473 00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:29,220 So I have a question, so out of that, I agreed to $1.1 million that they would agree to pay. 474 00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:34,040 We're going to set a side to any of that for maintenance of this area. 475 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:41,100 We're planning to use it for the initial, just for the sensing and signage and plantings. 476 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,640 After that, it'll just be basic maintenance, but we do the right ways next to it. 477 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:52,800 So it should be a fairly low impact cost, but it is still cost, it is a cost, yeah. 478 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:56,780 It's one more one more park area for this city, public roads to maintain. 479 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,960 I was hoping that HBT would have found an on-profit that would take over that area. 480 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,460 I know they tried for a long time and this site was too small. 481 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,720 I think for most of the non-profits to want to take over and preserve it. 482 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:19,680 So, I think this is a good solution, does this complete all the things in the development agreement for HPT? 483 00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:22,100 This rules of all of HPT's outstanding items. 484 00:36:22,540 --> 00:36:24,840 It's good, I'd like to see it. 485 00:36:24,860 --> 00:36:27,380 Before would I think it's a good solution? 486 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,280 Just sort of follow-up on Mayor Protem's question. 487 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,460 Do we have an idea how much of my cost annually to have maintained this site? 488 00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:49,560 Currently, we just do either payment on the site once a year. 489 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,800 So it's... 490 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,260 Yeah, I mean, I met about hours this afternoon. 491 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,780 It's not like a park with mons and... 492 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:55,100 Correct, correct. 493 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:56,240 It's just a case. 494 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,360 Just to... 495 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,460 And if we plan to outhaul our natives that we'll even bring down the maintenance... 496 00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:04,780 Dude, does this site get mone? 497 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:05,760 Sometimes. 498 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,860 We do either payment each year. 499 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:08,860 Yeah, for fire. 500 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,620 And they get about five feet high, they come in. 501 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,480 Why could I? 502 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,620 Can't have the city sort of break in a phone room, right? 503 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:20,960 Is there any public comment? 504 00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:29,730 Seeing none, move ahead. 505 00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:32,670 With that, we have motion. 506 00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:37,870 I mean, it was at the CASA Pre-Vasivation 2020-2649. 507 00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:39,410 Pre-Vasivation in the retirement. 508 00:37:40,090 --> 00:37:42,850 Pre-Vasivation in preserved stewardship agreement. 509 00:37:44,650 --> 00:37:45,530 Well, second that motion. 510 00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:46,690 All right. 511 00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:50,410 we have a motion in a second. All those in paper please say aye. 512 00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:56,110 I proposed one abstain. Just because I live next to it. There's not a conflict. 513 00:37:56,110 --> 00:38:03,210 I'm just saying. Okay, so we have four yes, no nose and one abstain. 514 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680 Yeah, you live right across the walkway from it. 515 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,180 Right, right. 516 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:15,200 Not about things, yeah, you're from door. 517 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:24,500 there's giant wipers that hunt a rental pool as well. So far though, I'm not sure if their hair ends are eager. 518 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:37,160 All right, so now we move on to item J back from state. 519 00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:47,100 The adoption of Resolution 2026-46, authorasing the city manager to execute an agreement with 520 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:53,100 long eye incorporated for investigative evidence analysis, technology produced by the 521 00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:58,060 Winters Police Department, and I see she's John Miller stepping to the microphone. 522 00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:04,140 So my apologies, I wasn't prepared to, the discussion item on this, I was going to go forward 523 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:09,460 consent, so, not really, completely prepared, obviously, not dress appropriate, as I 524 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:10,320 normally would. 525 00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:15,600 I have online available for any technical questions, retired chief of police from Santa 526 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,620 Mone and Denny Carlson, who is the long-eyed representative, Denny and I actually went to 527 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:22,980 Mancals together, one of the Sherpas individuals, I know, especially when it comes to 528 00:39:22,980 --> 00:39:23,300 attack. 529 00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:26,140 That's why he was recruited by Long-Liapon as retirement. 530 00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:31,940 Long-Liapon basically would break down, I think, the easiest way to put his chat GPT for cops. 531 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,140 It's Siege's compliant, which is the California Justice Information Systems. 532 00:39:36,580 --> 00:39:40,340 And that's one of the biggest issues with open source AI and law enforcement. 533 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:43,840 We cannot use catchy B.T. Cloud. 534 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:49,340 We can't even use Grammarly to review our reports or any of those technical programs. 535 00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:57,820 C.1-9 was developed to be Siege's compliant and is actually an incredibly powerful tool I'm going to do. 536 00:39:57,980 --> 00:39:59,700 And I just found a... 537 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,300 Today I last year, and I'm learning it daily, and what it can do. Some of the things that we are looking 538 00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:14,540 forward with the system is we're already destined off our homicide case from 2009, where the suspect 539 00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:19,560 was convicted of serving time in prison, but the body was never recovered. That binder alone 540 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:26,260 is bonus of five inch per paper binder, and we're scanning in all the documents and all the evidence 541 00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:33,340 getting ready to upload to a long night to be able to allow long night to analyze that information. 542 00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:39,940 We're also dusting off our 1984 missing person case, which is a problem homicide out of clearly. 543 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:50,380 Also to upload it to a long night and allow it, but to query the system to give us potential leads on that. 544 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:55,460 The system can be used for even transcription of interviews. 545 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,340 We can take an audio of an interview. 546 00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:02,280 We can do the complete transcription. 547 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,760 Make it into a report format for us. 548 00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:08,680 It takes it appropriately in a California law that was generated through the AI source. 549 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,840 It can also, my understanding is up to 200 languages in translation services. 550 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,340 It can also help us analyze child pornography cases. 551 00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:23,440 We have several child pornography cases going right now historically that requires our officer 552 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,040 and this now we have our detective admin surgeon back literally sitting in front of computer for 553 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:34,960 our upon hour looking at digital images from computer rips from iPhone rips or cell phone 554 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,880 rips and he was literally just sit there and scroll and open up every single document and 555 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,600 unzip every file and watch every video one night you upload the images 556 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:51,500 It's really the system and it can help the detector narrow down that search to specific information. 557 00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:54,880 It can do link analysis for us. 558 00:41:54,940 --> 00:42:01,800 It can do metadata basically from the data, the cell phone ribs, creating GPS maps. 559 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:06,000 Just a super, super powerful tool. 560 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,460 On the lower end, for our officers, you know patrol officers, they can use it like Grammarly. 561 00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:14,860 And it's a seagus compliant format so they can actually upload their reports. 562 00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:16,960 Now to check their spelling and grammar, 563 00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:19,940 because, you know, I don't know. 564 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:21,820 Let's say, the qualification system 565 00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:24,320 has done to some of their grammar and education, 566 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,440 but they are, you know, obviously, 567 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,500 generation of Microsoft, Edgar, Brighton, Ward, 568 00:42:31,180 --> 00:42:32,820 and very relying on these type of tools. 569 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:37,080 That's just a tip of the iceberg of what this system 570 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,580 can do for the winners' police department. 571 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,960 I'm very excited to, you know, break it on board. 572 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,180 Well, one of the case we're currently working on is the flood case from November of this last year. 573 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,900 There was a ton of data and information. 574 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,960 We really, just this last week, developed a lead, and that we've been investigating that now for 575 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:00,960 six, seven months. 576 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,050 And if I were to take a, you know, first of all, I was murdered data, 577 00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:08,250 data, drawing down the data, more search points, 578 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:11,830 electronic search points, or there as long as we 579 00:43:11,830 --> 00:43:15,270 add that tool, could have probably expedited that process, 580 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:18,690 and led us to the suspect much sooner. 581 00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:21,210 With that, I'm over the questions. 582 00:43:21,350 --> 00:43:22,250 Any technical questions? 583 00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:26,430 I'm going to refer you to, yeah, well, 584 00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:28,030 I've worked out to you for a thousand. 585 00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:35,810 Questions about it? 586 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:44,320 So we use AI work, sometimes I don't, because I don't find it particularly useful for 587 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,840 the way I do my work, but I have seen a lot of people work using it, and where it really 588 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:58,140 struggles that I've seen is that it has a problem with context, assigning meaning, and developing 589 00:43:58,140 --> 00:43:59,340 what's important. 590 00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:01,000 It does a lot of things great. 591 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:08,820 Especially when you talk about flat files, dealing with tables, translation, all that is 592 00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:13,080 anything that's got an app that's existed, it does that really well, it integrates a lot 593 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,940 of different programs together. 594 00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:18,020 So I'm curious about this. 595 00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:26,040 I looked up the company and a couple things are concerning for me, one, they're very new. 596 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,760 It seems like they haven't had their product to market for even a year yet. 597 00:44:31,940 --> 00:44:38,500 I have a hard time believing that they have solved the context and importance. 598 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,980 Issue that the rest of the chat should be D. 599 00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,380 But AIs struggle with. 600 00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:55,240 And I just, I don't think that the AI technology is there yet to do something this important in a way that I'm willing to. 601 00:44:56,140 --> 00:44:59,580 say yes to this and then essentially risk. 602 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,720 They're getting it wrong, hallucinations, 603 00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:11,580 saying something important, it's not wasting time, potentially, they could cause the same time, too. 604 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:20,120 But I'm just not, I don't feel like AI is at a point where we should be trusting it to the most serious things that we do. 605 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:34,870 I'm also concerned that they're such a new company and I don't feel like their product might be quite at the point where I think it should be. 606 00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:40,210 Do you like? 607 00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:42,790 Do you also respond to that? 608 00:45:46,370 --> 00:45:52,270 I do more than happy if you want to lend a little insight to that from the company's perspective. 609 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:56,790 And American Council members, thank you for allowing me to join you this evening. 610 00:45:57,350 --> 00:46:00,470 I appreciate the opportunity to speak about online, kind of what we represent. 611 00:46:01,190 --> 00:46:06,470 A couple of things to note on the age of the company, but you are accurate that we are not 612 00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:12,710 on standing company, but however the AI engineers that we enjoy from online, over class engineers 613 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:19,050 that have been working in the AI field for a while over a decade, all of them have vast experience. 614 00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:22,530 in designing AI with some of the major AI developers 615 00:46:23,050 --> 00:46:25,170 who've been in this business for quite a long time. 616 00:46:25,590 --> 00:46:27,170 So the experience is there. 617 00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:29,350 One of the things that they created that sets 618 00:46:29,350 --> 00:46:31,930 long-eyed part from any other AI out there, 619 00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:34,690 we actually have a patent-pending technology 620 00:46:34,690 --> 00:46:38,190 that's a goodifiability architecture built into our platform 621 00:46:38,190 --> 00:46:40,270 to reduce those hallucinations 622 00:46:40,270 --> 00:46:43,750 and almost minimize them to exactly zero. 623 00:46:44,110 --> 00:46:46,610 And that is a major concern in the criminal justice system 624 00:46:46,610 --> 00:46:53,430 We need things that I teach consistently throughout the state of California is ethical AI and IT's IT chiefs of police. 625 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:57,950 So the number of the California Police Chiefs Association board of directors and I take that there seriously. 626 00:46:58,390 --> 00:47:01,570 And something we should not risk within the criminal justice system. 627 00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:05,030 So we built a verifiable or the architectural within Mo Ni. 628 00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:16,590 Our system will not produce a result to an AI or to a question or an inquiry within our system unless it can produce a verifiable citation and a direct link back. 629 00:47:16,610 --> 00:47:17,970 to the cold admissible evidence. 630 00:47:18,610 --> 00:47:20,730 You can go in the long eye, and with any case, 631 00:47:20,830 --> 00:47:22,070 you can ask it any question. 632 00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:24,550 I've gone in there and I've said, 633 00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:27,090 hey, can you tell me if this person is a dog or a cat person? 634 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:28,970 And then we'll respond, and they will tell me, 635 00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:30,210 I can't tell you any answer. 636 00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:32,550 I cannot cite actually evidence 637 00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:35,030 from the case to produce an answer that's reliable. 638 00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:39,790 So that is one of the platforms that our investigative works 639 00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:41,150 space is built on. 640 00:47:41,250 --> 00:47:42,790 That's the liabilities of the architecture. 641 00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:44,890 So we will not produce an AI result 642 00:47:44,890 --> 00:47:49,790 unless a direct citation to the court at this level, evidence can accompany the answer. 643 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:56,090 And what we do, as I will continue to anyone who is in the Long Night platform, is every time they're in the platform. 644 00:47:56,610 --> 00:48:04,890 No matter what they're doing, any AI summary that's produced for them, they will be one click away from an actual evidence to be able to verify that the AI is accurate. 645 00:48:05,330 --> 00:48:11,410 So if you ask any question of Long AI, and Long AI gives you a response to the question that you asked, 646 00:48:11,410 --> 00:48:15,430 directly embedded in those responses will be citations that will take the investigator 647 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:19,350 or who is using the platform back to their actual quote admissible evidence 648 00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:23,430 so they can verify them immediately. And it comes in a single thing glass. They'll be looking at 649 00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:26,890 the summiting, they click on the citation, they will pop up on the side of the spring, 650 00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:31,330 and it will go to the direct point in the interview or in the PDF file or whatever is 651 00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:35,590 cited in the evidence so that they can verify it that it's accurate. We'll assume believe 652 00:48:35,590 --> 00:48:40,330 or in the E should not trust AI, but we should always put something in front of you 653 00:48:40,330 --> 00:48:45,990 you could verify. I actually use the term all the time and I'm talking to organizations that 654 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:49,950 will probably most self-loving AI company up there because we don't want you to trust it. 655 00:48:50,050 --> 00:48:53,270 We have to put things in front of you that verify it. That's one of the critical components 656 00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:56,970 of being involved in the criminal justice system because you are absolutely accurate in 657 00:48:56,970 --> 00:49:03,410 statements that you made at the level of seriousness for the cases that are being investigated 658 00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:08,070 at long-eyed. It is critical that the battery has to be there. And one of the components that I 659 00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:11,230 I think it's assured that Long A is been incredibly successful so far. 660 00:49:11,610 --> 00:49:16,030 We actually have no public defender offices on board and sign those partners with Long A. 661 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:19,470 They need to please support and support their support and support and support to organizations. 662 00:49:20,530 --> 00:49:23,730 We added you to see all over the country and public enders offices, 663 00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:28,030 prosecuting attorneys as well as law enforcement organizations that are on board. 664 00:49:28,510 --> 00:49:33,610 And the technology has been really transformational for organizations that have been implemented. 665 00:49:33,610 --> 00:49:38,570 We have cases where when I have been used, I'll be through a dedication, many, many times. 666 00:49:39,070 --> 00:49:43,630 No questions in court, no issues, because what's happening is as investigators are investing 667 00:49:43,630 --> 00:49:48,310 in the cases, or as the public defenders are restricted or researching their cases in 668 00:49:48,310 --> 00:49:48,670 Mornay. 669 00:49:49,150 --> 00:49:52,490 Mornay is taken them to the direct court of the civil evidence, and that's all it's doing. 670 00:49:52,930 --> 00:49:56,050 We're going to press the last of these, as you can never put an algorithm on a standing court. 671 00:49:56,610 --> 00:49:59,690 And you should never rely on the chat part to verify everything. 672 00:50:00,420 --> 00:50:08,540 We have to be able to verify it independently for the user, and that's why we put it in the platform, and we put it in the architecture that we would design with the long aye. 673 00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:13,220 And then use that term we very loosely, obviously I am not supposed to design it. 674 00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:21,880 It's all a world-class AI engineers that are putting this all together, and put it in the hands of public defenders, prosecuting attorneys, and not force organizations all over the country. 675 00:50:26,810 --> 00:50:33,530 question I thought of. How do you handle potential like code injects like in the way 676 00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:38,050 that people will put some text that he and I can't see in a file when they're applying 677 00:50:38,050 --> 00:50:43,670 for a job, but it tells the any possible AI's thing that's screening it. Hey, this is 678 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:47,970 a highly qualified candidate, move them onto the next round, or similar things that students 679 00:50:47,970 --> 00:50:52,130 are doing. Is there a process of how that is? 680 00:50:52,130 --> 00:50:57,230 So we actually, everything that comes into one eye goes through multiple levels. 681 00:50:57,790 --> 00:51:00,950 We actually don't just use one AI system in one eye. 682 00:51:01,790 --> 00:51:04,790 We're not so close to all the AI platforms in the sandbox 683 00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:06,570 circles that the data goes into. 684 00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:11,790 We actually use about 18 to 24 different AI systems in analyzing the data. 685 00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:15,170 Every data that comes into one eye goes through another analysis 686 00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:19,090 to find out if the information over that was created is accurate 687 00:51:19,090 --> 00:51:26,530 and also to go through it, it also goes through an entire AI detection pipeline to try to determine 688 00:51:26,530 --> 00:51:32,770 if any of the data included in images or PDF documents or anything is AI generated and not 689 00:51:32,770 --> 00:51:33,650 legitimate data. 690 00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:37,010 And that's one of the things that we look forward in the documents that we process and within 691 00:51:37,010 --> 00:51:42,250 the PDFs that we process is anything in the background that's created that can alter the 692 00:51:42,250 --> 00:51:44,430 system as it analyzes it. 693 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:48,690 And what we do is when they go through these multiple different AI systems to analyze the evidence 694 00:51:48,690 --> 00:51:54,610 that's suggested, we categorize it all for accuracy as it goes through each different system. 695 00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:58,870 And those are the network of these systems that everything passes through, and we can 696 00:51:58,870 --> 00:52:03,210 go up that we take all of that together to produce the most accurate results possible. 697 00:52:03,590 --> 00:52:07,510 Then it's received by the investigator or the attorney or the public defender that's 698 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:08,830 reviewing the AR results. 699 00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:12,870 So everything goes through multiple pipelines before it's determined that, 700 00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:15,250 yes, this is the most accurate thing we can put in front of you. 701 00:52:15,250 --> 00:52:21,870 And again, there's also that AI detection pipeline to produce and get anything that may be used to 702 00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:28,370 deceive or to falsify records or create new records that didn't exist at the time that the 703 00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:33,290 grandmas committed or that the grandmas reported. It's all of those different things. And as you know, 704 00:52:33,450 --> 00:52:39,830 this is a very difficult thing to navigate. In some ways, I concur to professional sports and 705 00:52:39,830 --> 00:52:44,970 use of illegal substances in sports in some ways, the testing is always going to be a step 706 00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:49,450 behind as people advance and get beyond the things. And so we are constantly in a state 707 00:52:49,450 --> 00:52:56,270 of analyzing how we can be the most impactful to figure out what is graduate and anything that's 708 00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:59,990 done to try to manipulate the system so our engineers are constantly working on those platforms 709 00:52:59,990 --> 00:53:04,450 to make sure there's updated as possible. I do everything that they can to minimize the risk. 710 00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:12,400 You have a question? 711 00:53:12,740 --> 00:53:17,600 Yeah, I just have a kind of a question, a question, maybe a couple comments. 712 00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:25,200 One, we're looking at one year contractor for $1,800, does this contract include any updates 713 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,340 that might come along throughout the year? 714 00:53:27,460 --> 00:53:29,020 We'll have updates to the software? 715 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:31,360 Yes, absolutely. 716 00:53:31,820 --> 00:53:37,360 Because of the speed of AI development and how things are being updated, I would talk 717 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,140 on a daily basis, recedes new updates. 718 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:42,400 As a matter of fact, last month, a long, 719 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,160 our engineers have shipped over 600 updates to the platform. 720 00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:49,420 That is all included, and it is all constantly being updated. 721 00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:52,500 So every single partner who is on board with now and now 722 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,440 receives the absolute latest technology 723 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,140 to make sure it's as efficient as possible, 724 00:53:57,340 --> 00:53:58,220 and exactly as possible. 725 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,780 Yeah, I just, I see this as being a tool that's out there 726 00:54:02,780 --> 00:54:05,320 that our place department could use 727 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:19,460 to save them some time to go through volumes and volumes of paper, documents that have been scanned or electronic devices that we're not able to do now because just the amount of time it takes. 728 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:27,320 I see the benefits of trying out this program for a year out of weighing any potential risks that might be in there. 729 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:34,420 going to go through and pull sounds like it will pull out any evidence that goes with 730 00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:38,260 the query of the officer and then that officer has a chance to look at it and go 731 00:54:38,260 --> 00:54:38,440 up. 732 00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:44,920 Okay, this is in the evidence and this is accurate, so it gets looked at, I think it will 733 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:51,740 set save a lot of time and help us analyze all the data that we have. 734 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,380 I think you got it. 735 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680 I had a question for you, but I think you... 736 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:16,000 I answered it. My question was about will the data be used for training purposes for other AI? And I think that's what is the problem with the other models, is that it can be used. So this is protected data. 737 00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:17,140 Protecting. 738 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:25,020 Yes, you are absolutely correct on that. And that's one of the things that is critical in this. And when I teach the ethical AI course, 739 00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:30,100 the enormous heavily is that whatever you need lies, you cannot put anything that's kind 740 00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:34,580 of justice information system related into a popular and modern AI system is going to 741 00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:35,260 learn on it. 742 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,420 The best example that I always give someone is, well, if you're investigating at a case involving 743 00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:44,680 no counter-trafficking, and at the same time you're investigating that case, if you put anything 744 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:51,260 into an open source, LOM or open source AI system at the same time, that someone from the 745 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:53,700 So I'm talking organization, the searching things online, 746 00:55:53,780 --> 00:55:56,880 there's a potential that you're investigative services could go to them. 747 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,960 So in our platform, everything is sandboxed, everything is secured. 748 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,080 We bring the AI systems to your data, to the workplace department's data, 749 00:56:05,540 --> 00:56:08,660 and know AI system warns often your police department's data. 750 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:15,860 That is an absolute, you can never happen with any type of enforcement system in 751 00:56:15,860 --> 00:56:19,720 loving AI, and we put those same types of employees to ensure that it never happens. 752 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:24,020 And just a complete clarity, so you understand, 753 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,760 they're looking for a line I can see the data 754 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,940 that the Windows Play Supplement would put over the system. 755 00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:31,220 The security set comes on place there, 756 00:56:31,580 --> 00:56:33,680 so that it is the Windows Play Supplement's data. 757 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:35,420 We should be able to see it. 758 00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:37,760 We don't want to see it because it is secure 759 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,820 to the Windows Play Supplement. 760 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,460 So we can't see it, and that is the way that it's designed. 761 00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:44,560 So it's secure, and it's sandboxed, 762 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,420 and it's just for the Windows Play Supplement, and that's it. 763 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:58,460 So along those lines, so the application, it lives on the winter's police departments, servers. 764 00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:00,320 It's not in the cloud. 765 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,860 Actually, it is in the cloud, it's in the AWS bedrock servers and the servers that we utilize 766 00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:13,380 or in the United States that are actually in Oregon, but it is just compliant with everything from start to finish. 767 00:57:13,380 --> 00:57:21,980 So, every single C just security standard and cloud-based information for criminal justice systems is actually quite common now. 768 00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:27,820 All of the body form gathered footage that's obtained and maintained by the winner's police department, that's all cloud-based. 769 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:35,080 It's all handled through the vendor that they utilize and it is a very common thing, that cloud-based storage for data. 770 00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:40,400 And we are the same on that, but every single standard is not through the AWS bedrock servers that we utilize. 771 00:57:44,010 --> 00:57:44,450 Thank you. 772 00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:58,520 All right, do we have any public comment on this item, 773 00:58:01,830 --> 00:58:03,570 all right, seeing none, 774 00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:07,430 thank you, sir, 775 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:08,550 not there. 776 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,360 I'm sorry, I can't reach your name again. 777 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,320 It's probably okay. 778 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,680 I was cursed with two last names, so I'll go with them and call them all the names. 779 00:58:19,820 --> 00:58:21,140 I was 27 years of enforcement. 780 00:58:21,140 --> 00:58:25,640 So, anything you want to call me, I'd probably heard a book or a book or a book. 781 00:58:25,780 --> 00:58:26,920 That wouldn't be polite call. 782 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,600 Because the worst type of two last names are two first names. 783 00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:30,960 That's Jeremy. 784 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,160 It's on the name. 785 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,580 Yeah, I'll definitely depend on the name. That's a good point. 786 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,820 But I just wanted to say thank you for allowing you to be here tonight. I appreciate your time. 787 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,980 Great. Thank you. 788 00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:47,200 I'm prepared to make a motion. I just want to say that I really appreciate the questions that were asked. 789 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:53,820 tonight by the council members and Mayor and the answers. It's very informative and I think 790 00:58:53,820 --> 00:59:02,440 we're all really interested in where this goes. I would like to move the item adopt resolution 791 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:08,900 2026-46 authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement with the Long Lying for investigative 792 00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:13,420 evidence analysis technology for use by the Winners Police Department as stated in our packet. 793 00:59:13,420 --> 00:59:18,290 We have a motion, we have a second. 794 00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:19,850 A second left. 795 00:59:20,250 --> 00:59:22,210 We have a motion, hand a second. 796 00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:24,930 All those in paper please say aye. 797 00:59:26,090 --> 00:59:26,870 All those opposed? 798 00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:28,310 I'd like to see you on your tracker. 799 00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:29,890 So no. 800 00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:30,950 I don't know. 801 00:59:31,070 --> 00:59:31,630 Yes, I don't know. 802 00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:33,690 Okay, so we have four. 803 00:59:34,170 --> 00:59:34,410 Yes. 804 00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:35,670 One, no. 805 00:59:35,950 --> 00:59:36,650 And motion carries. 806 00:59:47,020 --> 00:59:47,240 All right. 807 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,940 Next we add the city manager's report. 808 00:59:56,820 --> 00:59:59,580 I think we're just 2m to replace the CV in 100. 809 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980 Major, this week, the e-convance ordinance that will pass last month will be going into effect. We're working on signage and the parks and trails, which should be up shortly once we get them in. So we're going through that. Another quick out, the Edmund Converture and Downstairs, we have received the sounding panels to help with the noise in that room. So, once the guys are able to get in and install, we should see that improvement actually in the closet right now. So, we'll get that in. The third day is just one of the invite to community and ask 810 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:32,440 them to go out to the front page of the city website. 811 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,860 We have an active transportation plan survey on the website, both in English and Spanish, 812 01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:42,640 trying to get input from the community on the active transportation needs as we apply for 813 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,260 an ATP planning grant this year. 814 01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:48,040 So I really appreciate more, more sure I results. 815 01:00:48,140 --> 01:00:49,540 I appreciate those of dinner already. 816 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,020 We'd love to see a lot more people give their feedback on the active transportation needs 817 01:00:54,020 --> 01:00:54,520 in the community. 818 01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:57,800 Do you have accounters of last couple of days? 819 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,640 Yeah, as of, I really, yesterday we had about 28 responses to Rome. 820 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,520 We did. 821 01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:05,480 How long will it be available? 822 01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:07,920 It's for three weeks, so we have a couple more weeks. 823 01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:11,460 I believe you told me it was September 16th. 824 01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:15,640 Okay, I'll say it so goes out on the video. 825 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,660 There's a survey on transportation and it's on the CS website. 826 01:01:21,580 --> 01:01:25,200 It'll be, except in the information on September 16th. 827 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,940 It would be great if people in the community would respond to it. 828 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,780 It only takes not even two minutes, so it's very quick. 829 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:42,400 But I think the information will be very valuable to the people working on our transportation plans looking forward. 830 01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:46,890 Patty, for you. 831 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:48,090 All right. 832 01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:54,130 Next, we have council comments, ideas, questions, and maybe 1, 2, 3, 4 reports. 833 01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:01,620 So, I've seen the kind of cuter bake. 834 01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:06,680 The, I said, that's the best, the blue plate. 835 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:15,600 I'm a little bit mean, because there are on the 21st, I was at the Wiles 2, the Sermon, 836 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,680 I want to exactly the meaning. 837 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,960 We had two carry supervisors, they were strongness, and there was a really good discussion about 838 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:32,480 how the cow board and the development and the last G8 would be more collaborative on 839 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:41,260 the other issues with groundwater and they did the next journey to providers did vote to extend 840 01:02:41,260 --> 01:02:47,280 them right away for living there, but there's a lot of really good cooperative efforts we 841 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:54,840 to be proactive on groundwater and we try to look some really good programs that people 842 01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:01,860 have about the county we're doing. I'm at 22nd and we found, we was by Criterium, we had about 843 01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:10,540 90 miles, we were bicycle accidents, couple of drivers that probably no better. The kids 844 01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:17,780 was small, but the kids were very excited about doing the race. And then on the 27th I'm going to 845 01:03:17,780 --> 01:03:26,500 look at this ribbon kind of, it's really great to see that. I square grad, it's turning, 846 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,740 because it's very insured. There, and I was like, you had a really great show there, and the food 847 01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:38,120 was good, and it's clear that there was tea for a total amount of time. Anyway, it's great to see 848 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,200 I'm moving forward and doing that kind of support and that's about it. 849 01:03:45,610 --> 01:03:47,950 There's a lot for a vacation there. 850 01:03:49,350 --> 01:03:50,230 I have a few things. 851 01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:54,310 I participated in a C-Cog Transportation Meeting on August 6. 852 01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:57,570 I attended the Climate Action Committee on August 10. 853 01:03:57,910 --> 01:04:04,350 And there was a presentation by Brian Avanak of YTD on the short term transit plan. 854 01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:07,110 So I wanted to make sure that I was present for that. 855 01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:12,590 August 17th I attended, I was invited and attended a strategic planning committee meeting 856 01:04:12,590 --> 01:04:16,970 for SACARP and there was a specific presentation on RENA. 857 01:04:18,310 --> 01:04:23,350 So if anybody wants information, I have lots and lots. 858 01:04:24,010 --> 01:04:29,610 On August 19th I attended the Card of Meeting as an alternate, on August 26th I attended 859 01:04:29,610 --> 01:04:34,110 the two by two with the winner school district, along with mayor of ISEO. 860 01:04:34,110 --> 01:04:40,430 On August 28th, I attended a YTD planning meeting via Zoom, and that's for next Monday's meeting. 861 01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:50,370 And then, and especially great time at the fourth Friday event last Friday, it was so lively. 862 01:04:50,730 --> 01:04:56,210 There was so, it just felt great, great music, great people, great car show. 863 01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:59,690 Talking to the owners of the cars, it was just a... 864 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:28,400 I'm really lovely evening and I'm glad that we offer that in town. I just want to say that there have been a few emails and a Facebook post about street pick up, the calendar for leaf drop is the leaves are already dropping now. So a lot of people have been commenting on wanting to have more pickups at this time. 865 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:37,000 And so I'm not requesting that being item yet, but I just wanted to share that that is a community discussion. 866 01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:43,860 I believe the calendar changes now as we're pulling the fall. It will be more difficult. 867 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:55,940 Yeah, they want them now not been December. Like if you look outside, there are piles everywhere, especially on the side of town that has larger yards. 868 01:05:55,940 --> 01:06:02,460 There's just enormous piles, but there won't be pickup for, I don't know, two weeks, and then it's on it. 869 01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:04,220 I believe it's Tuesday for my side of town. 870 01:06:04,860 --> 01:06:10,280 I don't know what it is on the other side of town, but it's a long-term. 871 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:10,300 It's a long-term. 872 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:18,000 It's like a long-term amount of weeks between pickups right now, and this is a time to, you know, 873 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,960 you're pruning your garden, you're taking it out, you're everything that's overgrown from summer. 874 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,400 So it's, there's a great need this time of year. 875 01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:33,900 We'll turn the break. 876 01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:38,200 And we all got the flock audit data and a PDF format. 877 01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:41,020 That was virtually unusable from that form. 878 01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:44,300 So I took the 10,000 pages from that. 879 01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:48,680 And basically did I do it work and convert it into a useful data set 880 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,180 and third and third and third and third and with a software. 881 01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:52,200 And summarize it. 882 01:06:52,380 --> 01:06:54,900 So I'd encourage you all to take a look at it. 883 01:06:55,260 --> 01:06:56,160 There are a couple things. 884 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:01,820 So I think are of concern, namely, we have 107 organizations that are not on our transparency 885 01:07:01,820 --> 01:07:04,640 portal as having access, but they're still searching us somehow. 886 01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:12,240 I don't know if it's a configuration error, or a system error, or what, I think that 887 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:17,420 that also showed that winners PD is being very, very responsible with how we are using the 888 01:07:17,420 --> 01:07:17,820 system. 889 01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:40,560 So, I think the question for everybody if you take a look at it is, are you concerned about any of the access from organizations that are not on our list or organizations that we have partnered with that are also running searches for unapproved purposes like assisting federal agents? 890 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,560 So, let's all have. 891 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:44,960 I'm here for time. 892 01:07:45,220 --> 01:07:46,120 Yeah, thank you, Mayor. 893 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,680 Yeah, I'm August 19th. 894 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,040 I attend the Animal Services JPA meeting. 895 01:07:52,060 --> 01:07:58,260 We get an update at each meeting from the director of the shelter, which is Stephanie 896 01:07:58,260 --> 01:08:03,340 Amado and shows talks about how many dogs how many cats they have and the shelter at that time. 897 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,700 And there's another, a new non-profit that was formed just within the last couple months. 898 01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:14,700 that is aiming to help to reduce the number of 899 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,700 stress that are out there. 900 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,620 They want to open up a center where they can increase 901 01:08:21,620 --> 01:08:23,780 low-cost Bay and neutering services. 902 01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,780 Because that's what really impacts the shelter 903 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,240 populations as some of these bodies. 904 01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:32,980 These fell cats or animals that are out there that are not 905 01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:33,640 spading neutered. 906 01:08:33,820 --> 01:08:37,080 We're producing and put a big burden on the shelter itself. 907 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:46,080 So the county CEO's office is doing a RFP for services to see any non-profits out there 908 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:53,460 that might be able to provide the services for this, the use of building that's on the 909 01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:59,000 county property that has been put hundreds of thousands of dollars into it in the last 910 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:04,480 year to make it a surgical center that can be used for being neutered and it's sitting unused 911 01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:09,140 of this time, so they're putting out the sort of P to try to get non-profits or others who 912 01:09:09,140 --> 01:09:14,920 can come out and provide low cost pain during services to those that's in your locality. 913 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,500 So that's ongoing. We're still working on the governance model part of it for the JPA. 914 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,680 Something that will go on through next year. 915 01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:32,630 Thank you. I'm mind was a fairly short list. 916 01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:40,270 It was fairly quiet early in the month, I was gone, and then, as Council Member Laura 917 01:09:40,270 --> 01:09:46,790 and said, I attended the Wikers Joint Unified School District 2 by 2, and then last week, 918 01:09:46,890 --> 01:09:52,450 I had the opportunity and was invited by Congress and Mike Thompson to a meeting regarding 919 01:09:52,450 --> 01:09:58,470 the housing bill, which, after the president didn't sign it for 10 days, it became law. 920 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,940 And so we call together housing agencies and not propossates from across the county to meet at the Housing Authority 921 01:10:09,940 --> 01:10:19,460 office and it was a round table where we took questions and comments from each of the people there that were probably 25 attendees. 922 01:10:19,460 --> 01:10:29,920 It was very instructional to see the breadth of people working towards housing across our region. 923 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:38,220 And so I think the intent was, there was a pass, but there was still trying to work out how it would be implemented. 924 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:44,120 And I believe that what the Congressman was trying to gather information for. 925 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:53,520 And then yesterday I attended an online meeting with the Old Transportation Board along with 926 01:10:53,520 --> 01:11:04,780 Council Member Lauren regarding the upcoming budgets and the short-term transit plan. 927 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:11,680 We have short-term transit plan as it's called and do be some hard decisions to make 928 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,900 because it leaves the proposed budget correct me if I'm wrong. 929 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:21,960 Seems like it's going to be reduced by 80 by 20% to 80% 930 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,040 of the current service. 931 01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:31,300 And winners, because of her size, we have very small amount 932 01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:31,800 of service. 933 01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:37,540 And what service we do have when you take 20% away, 934 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,600 it gets much smaller. 935 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:46,360 But that's kind of a common issue that we face as a city, we're too small for so many things. 936 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:53,000 We don't get counted or we don't, and it's an ongoing discussion. 937 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,600 I think we all have in different venues that we work. 938 01:11:57,980 --> 01:12:06,760 But the good news is the 2020's coming back, or proposed to be coming back, which some people may not know. 939 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:14,000 The due 20 is the fixed line bus service which used to run between Davis, Winters and 940 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:14,780 Vacaville. 941 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:23,500 It used to run prior to the pandemic for four times a day and my experience was when I was 942 01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,360 a university staff member. 943 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:34,840 I used to write the bus to work with about 15 to 20 other university workers because it met 944 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:40,220 schedule of the university or close to it so that you can get to work on time and get back, 945 01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:44,180 you can put your bike on the bike rack, so you had your bike when you're not to the university, 946 01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:50,060 but it also went to Vacaville. So, I know very little about that, but we 947 01:12:52,600 --> 01:13:16,060 Council Member Lauren, Council Member Lauren, and I together have come to work with the Transportation Board to bring back the 2020, because you'll sit in those transportation board meetings, and we'll talk about how all the cities have received their... 948 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:22,740 We're trying to normal service, well, that never happened here. 949 01:13:22,780 --> 01:13:24,180 For expanded service. 950 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:32,920 And so, again, it's always kind of a struggle with these efficiencies. 951 01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:40,960 And so, gentlemen, we're going to be a little more familiar to remind people that September 26th, 952 01:13:49,960 --> 01:14:01,380 We have a lot of music, lots of entertainers, lots of non-profit booths, lots of free stuff. 953 01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:05,400 So that would be up on September 26th, it's going to happen. 954 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:06,800 All right. 955 01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:08,080 Thank you for the note. 956 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,520 at the law 957 01:14:12,460 --> 01:14:18,400 of all right puts it last words we're joined it 744 958 01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:22,700 it really hard come on 959 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:32,640 I did it really hard in a meeting at transportation like 960 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,980 and I'm meant to go to bed. 961 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,000 Go to bed. 962 01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:39,240 We're going to spend a lot of training in the grocery. 963 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:40,680 I have a lot of stuff. 964 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:41,940 Yeah, that's coming up as it.