1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:10,559 Call to order the uh January 20th, 2026 planning and zoning Winterville planning 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:16,320 and zoning board committee meeting. Welcome to everyone uh those who we have 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:21,199 not um seen for the opening of the new year. Happy new year to you. I hope that 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:28,560 everything has your holidays and and family are doing well. Uh looking at our 5 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:32,320 agenda, we have uh one excused absence, Miss Darlene Garner. What is the 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:37,360 pleasure of the board regarding Miss Garner's request? 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,200 » Approve. >> Second. 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,280 » It's been moved and properly second. All those in favor, use your vote and sign 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,440 I. >> I. I. 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:52,320 » Any oppose, use likewise sign. Uh next item, the approval of tonight's 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:57,280 agenda. You've had a chance to review the agenda which is printed before you 12 00:00:54,239 --> 00:01:00,970 and what was sent to us by staff was the pleasure of the board. [clears throat] 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,439 » A motion to approve. >> Second. 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,720 » Okay. It's been moved in properly. Second. All those in favor sign of I. 15 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,159 » I. >> Any oppose? Same sign. Approval of the 16 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:20,080 minutes from December 15th. Planning is on the board meeting. You've had a 17 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:26,520 chance to review those discussions. 18 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,520 What is the pleasure of the board? 19 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Motion to approve. >> I second. 20 00:01:31,045 --> 00:01:36,960 [clears throat] >> It's been moved and properly second. All 21 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:42,840 those in favor use your vote to sign. I >> Any oppose? 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,840 New business staff. 23 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:50,320 » Good evening. planning and zoning board and happy new year. Thank you all for 24 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:55,040 coming today. We do have two things on the agenda. We've got a preliminary plat 25 00:01:52,799 --> 00:02:00,399 and a resoning. The first one today that we're going to review is the Farmstead 26 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:07,040 preliminary plat. Farmstead is located off of Davenport 27 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:11,039 Farm Road and Rei Branch Road. So, if you're looking at this map right here 28 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:14,879 going north to south right here is Rey Branch Road. This is actually Pit 29 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:18,879 Community College. It's neighbor to the north. 30 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:23,280 And then going east to west right here is Davenport Farm Road. So this is Sam's 31 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Club right here. This is the piece of property that we uh often refer to as 32 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:33,360 the little property. And this is Open Door right here. As you 33 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:38,560 can see, uh this subdivision is split uh by Davenport Farm Road. Uh three of the 34 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:43,360 parcels are north of Davenport Farm Road whereas one of them is uh south of 35 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:48,720 Davenport Farm. The applicant is Art Consulting Group 36 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:53,440 and they're with us uh today if you do have any questions. Um again this is on 37 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:59,360 the western corner of Rei Branch Road and Davenport Farm Road intersection. In 38 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:07,840 total it's a 93.80 acre site with 179 lots in total. Um, 39 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:14,239 north of Davenport Farm Road is zoned R8. The southern part of Davenport Farm 40 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:21,200 Road is zoned R10. The northern part has roughly 60 acres and 107 lots. There are 41 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:26,959 two full ingress and egress points on Rei Branch and Davenport Farm Road. The 42 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:34,000 southern uh aspect of this subdivision again is R10 zoned. It's roughly 34 43 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:42,760 acres with 72 lots. There are also two full ingress and egress points on this 44 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,760 uh subdivision. I do want to point out 45 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:53,760 one thing, one uh mistake on um the abstract formstead. 46 00:03:50,799 --> 00:03:59,280 The last bullet point uh mentions a special use permit and 17 single family 47 00:03:56,959 --> 00:04:03,360 attached units. This was a complete mistake. This was actually for a 48 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:07,280 different project and um I want you to completely kind of scratch through that 49 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:12,879 one and disregard it. Um sorry about that. Dominique pointed that out to me. 50 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:17,199 I appreciate um your your notice on that. Um I do want to kind of point out 51 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:22,320 a few things while we have the preliminary plat. There's it's a great 52 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:28,240 layout um of the land. As you can see, you've got uh connections here on Rei 53 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Branch Road and here then Davenport Farm Road. You've got two connections here. I 54 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:40,560 want to point out that there's a a pool and a cabana located right here. There's 55 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:47,280 also a dedicated easement running along the creek right here 56 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:54,800 should the town ever uh wish to add an easement in the future or uh greenway in 57 00:04:51,199 --> 00:05:03,120 the future. And uh on both sides of the roads internal are uh sidewalks on both 58 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:08,080 um internal streets. And all of the uh the required conditions for the 59 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:11,840 subdivision I have placed beside um each of your desks just to have those in 60 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:19,199 front of you. I do want to point out one uh one 61 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:23,120 condition of the development. One of the required reasonzoning 62 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:28,240 conditions was that the developer will install a traffic signal at the 63 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:36,400 intersection of Davenport Farm Road and Rey Branch Road if approved by NC DOT. 64 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:42,560 The applicant and NC DOT reviewed it extensively. NC DOT came back and said a 65 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:47,039 traffic signal is not appropriate for this location, but a roundabout is. 66 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:51,440 They've also stated that they will install the roundabout. However, they 67 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:55,520 are not sure when they will do it. In fact, I asked them right before this 68 00:05:53,759 --> 00:06:02,000 project and they said it has been pushed off for the foreseeable future. Um, 69 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:09,000 and all other uh conditions of the conditional district have and can be met 70 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,000 by this preliminary plan. 71 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:16,629 Again, I do want to just point out some of the uh traffic and and 72 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:20,560 interconnectivity of this site. So [clears throat] again, the the 73 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:24,639 roundabout uh discussion was at this intersection right here where Rey Branch 74 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:29,280 Road and Davenport Farm Road come together. 75 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:36,639 You do have ingress and egress along Davenport Farm Road and on Rei Branch 76 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:39,680 Road for each of the um two separate uh kind of neighborhoods even though it's 77 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,680 just one neighborhood, but it's divided by uh Davenport Farm Road. So, you've 78 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:49,280 got a lot of really good interconnectivity within the subdivision 79 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:56,840 as well that allows a resident to uh to pick which um access point uh would be 80 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,840 preferable. 81 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:03,280 Staff does recommend approval of Farmstead Preliminary Plat. It has been 82 00:07:01,599 --> 00:07:08,400 reviewed by our technical review committee and has received approval. Of 83 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:13,840 course, if approved, then they will uh eventually have to submit construction 84 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,680 drawings and prior to a final plat. Are there any questions for this preliminary 85 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:19,680 plan? >> Yes, sir. 86 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:25,199 » Stephen, I just I believe it's been taken care of, but the roundabout is a 87 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:28,880 future item. Is it taken into account for the the laying out of the lots? 88 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,039 » It is. Yes, sir. >> Thank you. 89 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Uh since they're delaying the uh roundabout, do they plan 90 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:49,160 on putting stop lightss up there then until that happens or 91 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,160 » that has not been expressed? No, sir. 92 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:58,160 » Does uh the city of Winterville have a larger 93 00:07:55,759 --> 00:08:05,360 greenway plan that the movement ties into or is this just for this property? 94 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:10,479 There is a greenway plan master plan. Um I I believe it's in the parks and wrecks 95 00:08:07,919 --> 00:08:17,360 uh like master plan document. I don't know exactly where all the uh the 96 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:23,360 project goes. I I assume and believe though that it goes through this area 97 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:29,120 and um I think that's where we got it as a proposal um as a condition. Anyway, I 98 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:35,000 think on our greenway master plan, it was stating a greenway along that uh 99 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 canal. 100 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:43,120 » You said the developer is here tonight. >> We do have a representative for the 101 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:48,839 developer. >> Any questions u for the developer? 102 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,519 » Thank you. 103 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Right. You've had a chance to hear from staff uh and the recommendation 104 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:14,440 concerning Farmstead preliminary plaque. Well, it's the 105 00:09:10,959 --> 00:09:14,440 pleasure of the board. 106 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:24,720 Make a motion we approve the preliminary plan. 107 00:09:22,959 --> 00:09:31,440 Second. It's been moved and properly second. 108 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,000 All those in favor of uh the farmstead preliminary plat use your voting sign of 109 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,120 I. >> I. 110 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:43,680 » Any opposed? None opposed. Uh next item uh Southbrook for phase three 111 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:48,560 reasonzoning. Uh before staff come up, please make sure that you uh review the 112 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:53,600 uh reasonzoning consistency and reasonable statements before you as we 113 00:09:52,126 --> 00:09:57,279 [clears throat] will have to consider these if um when it comes to 114 00:09:56,711 --> 00:10:02,399 [clears throat] approval and or denial 115 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,880 that. >> All right. Thank you. And and for our 116 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:13,360 second item today, we do have a reszoning is Southbrook phase three HUD 117 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:20,240 resoning request. Um this board has seen Southbrook um a number of times in 118 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:26,240 different uh submittals. Today again we're looking at just a a reszoning for 119 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:30,399 its third phase. A majority of the site has actually already been uh preliminary 120 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:36,560 platted. So we're just looking at a little bit over an 8 acre site today. Um 121 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Southbrook, as you can see, is located in this uh blue area right here. So, we 122 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:49,040 have Church Street going north to south here. You've got Lori Ellis going east 123 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:55,040 to west just on the northern uh boundary of the project. And then just to give 124 00:10:51,600 --> 00:11:01,519 you some uh relation, um we've got Rei Branch down here south of the site and 125 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:05,839 Old Tar Road over here. This red uh star that we have right here just 126 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,240 representing the rough location of phase three that we're going to be discussing 127 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:10,240 today. 128 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:19,600 Just a reminder, a planned unit development is a form of a reszoning and 129 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:25,279 a use that allows flexibility and design for subdivisions to allow cluster 130 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:28,720 development in exchange for permanently open and preserved open space. We're 131 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:34,160 actually going to see exactly that today. There's a site that the applicant 132 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:40,320 would have to go over a riperian buffer or a stream to add the remaining single 133 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:47,600 family attached. Uh the proposal today is exchanging that for an area that they 134 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:53,760 would not have to impact another riparian buffer. So this is exactly what 135 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:59,440 we're looking at um today. In addition, Southbrook was approved for a PUD um in 136 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:04,839 that it does help ensure the protection of environmentally sensitive features on 137 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,839 its site. 138 00:12:05,839 --> 00:12:13,600 And just to remind everybody of the timeline, this project has been going on 139 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:18,880 for quite some time. In October 2022, the applicant uh met with the community, 140 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:24,959 had two community meetings for public input. Sound council approved the PUD in 141 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:31,279 January 2023. Phases one and two of the uh site have 142 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:36,240 been approved for preliminary plat. So just a reminder, the entire site has 143 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:42,079 been approved for preliminary plat other than the 8.53 acres we're discussing 144 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:46,240 today. So again, for the reasonzoning for the 8.53 acres that we're discussing 145 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:50,639 today, we have not seen a preliminary plat for that uh phase yet. 146 00:12:50,959 --> 00:13:00,160 The applicant is Southbrook NC LLC Scott Moore who's with us today. Again, for 147 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:04,079 those online, uh this is located on Church Street Extension and Lorie Ellis 148 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:09,519 Road. Phase three or what we're considering 149 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:18,480 today is a 8.536 acre site of the total 245.43 150 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:24,800 acres in total. Again, our current zoning district for this was a PUD. It 151 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:31,839 was approved in January 2023. Um, as a R six putt and a multifamily 152 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:37,680 residential pud. Today, they are requesting 153 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:43,279 it's it's still remaining the same Southbrook PUD. However, the applicant 154 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:49,120 is requesting a small portion of the R six be converted to multifamily 155 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:54,079 residential. In uh simpler terms, they are requesting that the 8 acres be 156 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:59,839 changed to allow single family attached rather than just single family detached 157 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:04,320 for that one area. And this is the concept map um of 158 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:09,360 Southbrook. So, as you can see with the lighter 159 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:15,279 colors right here, this is single family detach. There's a little bit darker kind 160 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:21,199 of um yellowish color that represents single family attached. Initially, the 161 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:25,680 applicant was planning on uh taking the remaining single family attached units 162 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:32,639 to this location. After further engineering and reviewing, the applicant 163 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:40,000 found that they can eliminate this environmental impact if they uh 164 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:45,519 shifted this to the multifamily residential zoning district in the pud. 165 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:49,920 So if they uh shifted the the single family attached to this location. So 166 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,639 therefore, it would not only eliminate a riparian buffer impact right there, but 167 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:59,680 it would also move the single family attached away from fronting Church 168 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:04,320 Street interior to the site. As you can see here, 169 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:10,320 of course, no other changes to the pud uh are are part of this project. So the 170 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:16,240 density will not change at all, nor does the overall count in total number of 171 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:21,040 units change at all in this proposal. just to give you another kind of 172 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:26,079 overview of the entire project. So, this is uh L'Orealis Road up here. This is 173 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Church Street Extension here. So, it's a it's a large swath of land. Um you know, 174 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:36,079 a large project. Most of it's been preliminary platted, but uh right here 175 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:42,160 where the star is, that's representative of the uh phase three. And zooming in 176 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:47,760 again, uh just looking a little bit closer at the phase three. I do want to 177 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:52,480 point out that phase two did provide two stubs into phase three. This is great 178 00:15:50,880 --> 00:16:00,440 interconnectivity, a lot better interconnectivity that than would be 179 00:15:54,639 --> 00:16:00,440 allowed at the previous area as well. 180 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:08,880 The future land use plan for this site um of course the putt has already been 181 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:13,759 approved but it was approved at a suburban residential. So suburban 182 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:21,360 residential suggest 1 to three units per acre. This development is uh at a 183 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:27,519 density of 2.49 units per acre. So again it's clustered development. Um so some 184 00:16:25,199 --> 00:16:34,800 smaller lots but leaving a lot of open land because of it. 185 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:39,600 So the request achieves again the u it is within the suggested density of the 186 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:45,920 comprehensive land use plan. It also utilizes a conservative subdivision 187 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:51,120 design and by that it is clustering its development to ensure that environmental 188 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:57,199 sites are uh avoided as much as possible. It also as far as the zoning 189 00:16:54,399 --> 00:17:02,560 ordinance goes, Southbrook is the perfect candidate for a pud. Um it has 190 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:07,760 significant environmental challenges on its site which has led to the design 191 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:13,839 that we see today. The request also aligns with PUD 192 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:20,240 principles in that it provides u equal or higher quality design than if they 193 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:24,799 had gone with their previous design. This uh will allow two stubs through the 194 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,880 area, great interconnectivity and transportation design. It also 195 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:34,000 eliminates a riparian buffer and environmental impact. 196 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:39,120 Therefore, staff does recommend approval of Southbrook phase 3 resoning request 197 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:43,520 as it is consistent with the comprehensive land use plan and is 198 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:48,400 reasonable. Um, we will have a public comment uh 199 00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:54,840 session prior to the planning and zoning consistency and reasonleness. Um, does 200 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,840 anybody have any questions for staff? 201 00:17:55,120 --> 00:18:03,360 » Yes, sir. >> Just help a senior citizen out here. Um 202 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:10,480 we're going the proposal is for attached housing be relocated to this site. 203 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:17,919 The housing that we're eliminating was that attached or single family? 204 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:27,280 » So the the best way to to state it is location. So um they have set out the 205 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:34,320 total number of uh units they can have. They have already preliminary platted 206 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:40,799 all of the single family detach units. What this location would be? So, 207 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:44,960 previously they would have placed it closer to Church Street right 208 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,799 here. >> Those being attached. 209 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:53,120 » Those being attached. Yes, sir. And then with this one, they are shifting those 210 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:58,400 single family attached to this area and eliminating this whole kind of land area 211 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,520 and leaving an open space. >> So the housing design is the same in 212 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,799 both areas basically. >> That's correct. 213 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,880 » It's single family attached. >> That's correct. Yes, sir. 214 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:11,000 » No change in numbers. >> Absolutely. Yes, sir. 215 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,000 » Thank you. 216 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:17,840 » I have a question. >> Yes, sir. appears that the 217 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:21,880 move is going from a smaller location to a much larger location. 218 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:32,640 » I I agree. It does appear to be a larger kind of swath of land. Yes, sir. But 219 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:36,480 it's still um they're still limited on the number of units they can have. 220 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:41,840 There'll be more greenway, more >> and they're also still limited on so 221 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:46,320 each single family attached unit itself has to have a minimum size for you know 222 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,679 it to sit on and it still has to meet that minimum size there as well. 223 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,880 Any 224 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,760 additional questions for staff? 225 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,559 Do we have any public 226 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,080 comments? 227 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Good evening everyone. Happy new year. It's good to be here. My name is Scott 228 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:34,400 Moore. I'm the applicant and also one of the owners of Southbrook NC uh LLC. And 229 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,120 I just want to thank Stephen for the presentation and all his help kind of 230 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:40,480 through this process. He's been great in working through the the putt and 231 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,679 bringing that to you today. I'll go through a quick presentation covering a 232 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,280 lot of what he covered. I think answering some of the questions that you 233 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:52,640 guys had as well. And just bear with me. Um the site plan that is before you 234 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:57,200 right here, that is the approved concept plan that was a part of the the PUD 235 00:20:54,799 --> 00:21:01,440 drawing. And since we're the only PUD in Winterville, it's actually good to talk 236 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:06,080 about what the purpose of this concept plan is alone. And it's really meant to 237 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:12,400 be schematic in nature as it's shown. It's it's a general layout of housing, 238 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:17,280 of open space, um with road connectivity uh and stubs to neighboring properties. 239 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:21,120 Um, and it also, uh, I think as as Stephen pointed out, all those areas in 240 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:25,520 light yellow is where our R six zoning districts are, and all the areas over on 241 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:31,200 the the western portion in the dark yellow, that's where the uh, the MR uh, 242 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:36,080 zoning is as well. So, the concept plan is really just that. It's not made to be 243 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:40,640 uh, a final location of the roads, although it gives general layouts and 244 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:44,559 uh, that's really when you start getting to the final layout, that's what the 245 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,000 subdivision sketch plan is for. So, the reason for all of this, and I think 246 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:52,159 Steve did a great job alluding to it, um throughout our entire development 247 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:56,640 process, we meet with staff. We also talk with the uh contractors that are on 248 00:21:54,480 --> 00:22:00,159 site. We're constantly learning valuable feedback about it as we're as we're 249 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,000 engaging the construction process and and obtaining feedback. So, it makes 250 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:07,280 good sense for us to try to make something that's more efficive, 251 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:11,440 efficient, more effective, and then ultimately leads to a better layout for 252 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:15,039 the entire community. So, for this evening, and I think he's really hit on, 253 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:18,880 we're really focusing on the two areas. The concept plan and those are the boxes 254 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:23,200 that are over to the right. And we're really just uh we're going to update 255 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:26,640 that with what is shown I mean to the left, excuse me, the boxes to the left. 256 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:32,080 We're updating that with the areas that are shown on to the right. So, as as he 257 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:36,400 has as he has said, we are doing this really for two main reasons. One is to 258 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:40,960 avoid the crossing of that area and really to to sort of give up the 259 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:44,880 development rights to go over and provide anything on Church Street. And 260 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:49,440 then yes, what we're doing is we're taking that area which the question was 261 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:54,320 how big is it? It's six acres. We're going over to the area to that is 262 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:59,360 actually beneath the the buffer. Um that's that's crossing up from kind of 263 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:03,280 southwest to northeast. That is eight acres of area. And yes, we're we're 264 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:08,799 taking that MR zoning and we're putting it in that location and it still gives 265 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:13,120 us really good uh you know continuity in terms of our uses puts it all together. 266 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:18,240 And I think is what's been really great explained is um that whole area now is 267 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,159 much bigger buffer from Church Street. We don't have a lot of units that are 268 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:26,240 backing up to Church Street or sitting up on Church Street. So it kind of 269 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,080 protects itself from Church Street. And then again, anything that's interior to 270 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:34,400 the site just kind of lends itself to a develop a better development pattern. So 271 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,640 we got open space and greenway, you know, along the area on Church Street, 272 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,080 which really again affords itself to be a better opportunity. Also provides so 273 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:45,840 that when people are driving down Church Street, it really opens up better for 274 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,919 our entrance. We have a lot more green space preservation that's going on there 275 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:54,000 while again all of the the homes are taking place in the interior side of the 276 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:57,679 property. So really, it's just the two things. It's it's not crossing the 277 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,960 buffer buffer, which is great for environmental and lessening the 278 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:04,320 environmental impact. And then it's just taking what's there on Church Street 279 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:08,559 originally approved and moving it internal to the site. And those are the 280 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:12,960 only two things that were here. And uh if you guys have any questions, I'm 281 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,760 happy to answer them. >> You know, I always got questions. 282 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:21,120 » Of course, bring it. >> Okay. Uh Mr. Moore, your development 283 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:24,720 basically has got 612 lots. That's that's a large size growth 284 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:31,039 for us. Yes, sir. >> Uh if it everything works out and this 285 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:37,120 change is all approved by council where the number one is up there on the right 286 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:43,600 hand side where you're eliminating the U buildings in that lot. Does that lot 287 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:49,679 become possibly available for future fire station? Because 288 00:24:47,679 --> 00:24:54,000 as this town grows, our fire department has got to grow with it. And I'm 289 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:59,520 wondering is that does that lot work become open to development 290 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:02,080 for something as such as that? >> That would be a discussion that we would 291 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:07,600 have with town council if they would have any interest in that. I mean surely 292 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:11,600 um right now what this secures it as as it's going to be an undeveloped parcel 293 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:16,559 and the only way that it would change from that is if we come back and then 294 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:20,880 again revise that to say hey we have a new development activity fill in the 295 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,320 blank of whatever that is an interest from party you would have another 296 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:28,400 opportunity to be able to weigh the options of what that should be. So to 297 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:32,159 your point, it could be a number of things. If the town has interest in it, 298 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,120 surely we'd be able to talk with them about it and that even at a later date. 299 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,679 Correct. >> Absolutely. Yeah. 300 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,400 Are there any additional questions? 301 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,960 Thank you. Any other public comments? 302 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,159 Okay. There being no additional public 303 00:25:59,919 --> 00:26:06,720 comments, uh [clears throat] you would direct your attention to the 304 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,520 uh statement of consistency and reasonleness. 305 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:11,760 » Mr. Chairman. >> Yes, 306 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:19,440 » Mr. Chairman. I'd like to speak to the board uh in the to make it a little 307 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:24,400 faster, I would like to see us uh bundle the consistency and reasonleness along 308 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,559 with the approval or disapproval. because it basically falls together. If 309 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:32,640 it's a consistent and reasonable, it's going to get approved. If it's not, not 310 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:38,799 going to get approved. I would like it tonight's action be one vote that would 311 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:45,120 cover reasonleness and consistency along with approval or disapproval if that's 312 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:50,320 okay with this board. So with that being um suggested each 313 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:56,440 member if you would review the consistency statement and the 314 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,440 reasonleness statement 315 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:06,919 and the uh statements with regard to 316 00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:06,919 uh 317 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:17,400 the request being uh fall within the construct of this document. 318 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:29,919 Is there any discussion in which anyone find that it is not consistent, it is 319 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:32,919 not reasonable and or does not meet the requirements. 320 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:43,600 There being none, what is the pleasure of the board, 321 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:49,600 Mr. Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we approve the resoning because I find 322 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:53,159 it to be reasonable and consistent according to our 323 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,600 information provided to us. 324 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,840 » Second. >> Okay, it's been moved and properly 325 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,559 second. >> All those in favor your vote and sign of 326 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:09,600 I. >> I. 327 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:14,840 » Any opposed? Hearing none. report from staff. 328 00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:22,320 » Don't really have anything uh for you guys this month. Um I will say I think 329 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:27,919 that it's probably going to be getting busy this year um just with some of the 330 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:32,799 phone calls that we've already gotten uh early this year. Kind of surprising. I 331 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:37,840 don't I don't know. We might see some uh more resonings and plats coming through 332 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:41,600 this year. So, um, I I want to go ahead and say thank y'all for y'all's 333 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:46,720 participation this year and look forward to working with y'all. Thank you. 334 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:51,799 » Any comments from board members for staff or for the good of the 335 00:28:54,399 --> 00:29:02,640 being none, uh, the chair entertain a motion to adjurnn. 336 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,799 » Make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. 337 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:08,720 » Been moved in properly second. All those in favor you to vote and sign I. Any 338 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,440 opposed? >> Meeting stands adjourned. Good evening 339 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,440 everyone. >> Dominic. 340 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:30,600 » I hope things get worked out >> quicker than later. 341 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Yeah. 342 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:04,120 » Oh, absolutely. Yes, sir. I appreciate 343 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,880 » you. 344 00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:17,480 » Well, I guess I'll see. 345 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,000 » Well, next week. 346 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760 being 347 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:56,600 I'll be back tomorrow. 348 00:31:23,801 --> 00:31:25,821 » [laughter]