[0:00] Call to order the uh January 20th, 2026 planning and zoning Winterville planning [0:07] and zoning board committee meeting. Welcome to everyone uh those who we have [0:13] not um seen for the opening of the new year. Happy new year to you. I hope that [0:18] everything has your holidays and and family are doing well. Uh looking at our [0:25] agenda, we have uh one excused absence, Miss Darlene Garner. What is the [0:30] pleasure of the board regarding Miss Garner's request? [0:35] » Approve. >> Second. [0:39] » It's been moved and properly second. All those in favor, use your vote and sign [0:42] I. >> I. I. [0:44] » Any oppose, use likewise sign. Uh next item, the approval of tonight's [0:49] agenda. You've had a chance to review the agenda which is printed before you [0:54] and what was sent to us by staff was the pleasure of the board. [clears throat] [1:01] » A motion to approve. >> Second. [1:06] » Okay. It's been moved in properly. Second. All those in favor sign of I. [1:10] » I. >> Any oppose? Same sign. Approval of the [1:13] minutes from December 15th. Planning is on the board meeting. You've had a [1:17] chance to review those discussions. [1:22] What is the pleasure of the board? [1:26] Motion to approve. >> I second. [1:31] [clears throat] >> It's been moved and properly second. All [1:34] those in favor use your vote to sign. I >> Any oppose? [1:38] New business staff. [1:44] » Good evening. planning and zoning board and happy new year. Thank you all for [1:48] coming today. We do have two things on the agenda. We've got a preliminary plat [1:52] and a resoning. The first one today that we're going to review is the Farmstead [1:58] preliminary plat. Farmstead is located off of Davenport [2:04] Farm Road and Rei Branch Road. So, if you're looking at this map right here [2:08] going north to south right here is Rey Branch Road. This is actually Pit [2:12] Community College. It's neighbor to the north. [2:16] And then going east to west right here is Davenport Farm Road. So this is Sam's [2:21] Club right here. This is the piece of property that we uh often refer to as [2:25] the little property. And this is Open Door right here. As you [2:30] can see, uh this subdivision is split uh by Davenport Farm Road. Uh three of the [2:36] parcels are north of Davenport Farm Road whereas one of them is uh south of [2:40] Davenport Farm. The applicant is Art Consulting Group [2:45] and they're with us uh today if you do have any questions. Um again this is on [2:51] the western corner of Rei Branch Road and Davenport Farm Road intersection. In [2:56] total it's a 93.80 acre site with 179 lots in total. Um, [3:05] north of Davenport Farm Road is zoned R8. The southern part of Davenport Farm [3:10] Road is zoned R10. The northern part has roughly 60 acres and 107 lots. There are [3:18] two full ingress and egress points on Rei Branch and Davenport Farm Road. The [3:24] southern uh aspect of this subdivision again is R10 zoned. It's roughly 34 [3:30] acres with 72 lots. There are also two full ingress and egress points on this [3:37] uh subdivision. I do want to point out [3:43] one thing, one uh mistake on um the abstract formstead. [3:50] The last bullet point uh mentions a special use permit and 17 single family [3:56] attached units. This was a complete mistake. This was actually for a [4:00] different project and um I want you to completely kind of scratch through that [4:05] one and disregard it. Um sorry about that. Dominique pointed that out to me. [4:10] I appreciate um your your notice on that. Um I do want to kind of point out [4:15] a few things while we have the preliminary plat. There's it's a great [4:19] layout um of the land. As you can see, you've got uh connections here on Rei [4:25] Branch Road and here then Davenport Farm Road. You've got two connections here. I [4:30] want to point out that there's a a pool and a cabana located right here. There's [4:36] also a dedicated easement running along the creek right here [4:43] should the town ever uh wish to add an easement in the future or uh greenway in [4:51] the future. And uh on both sides of the roads internal are uh sidewalks on both [4:58] um internal streets. And all of the uh the required conditions for the [5:05] subdivision I have placed beside um each of your desks just to have those in [5:10] front of you. I do want to point out one uh one [5:15] condition of the development. One of the required reasonzoning [5:21] conditions was that the developer will install a traffic signal at the [5:25] intersection of Davenport Farm Road and Rey Branch Road if approved by NC DOT. [5:32] The applicant and NC DOT reviewed it extensively. NC DOT came back and said a [5:40] traffic signal is not appropriate for this location, but a roundabout is. [5:44] They've also stated that they will install the roundabout. However, they [5:49] are not sure when they will do it. In fact, I asked them right before this [5:53] project and they said it has been pushed off for the foreseeable future. Um, [5:59] and all other uh conditions of the conditional district have and can be met [6:04] by this preliminary plan. [6:09] Again, I do want to just point out some of the uh traffic and and [6:14] interconnectivity of this site. So [clears throat] again, the the [6:17] roundabout uh discussion was at this intersection right here where Rey Branch [6:22] Road and Davenport Farm Road come together. [6:26] You do have ingress and egress along Davenport Farm Road and on Rei Branch [6:32] Road for each of the um two separate uh kind of neighborhoods even though it's [6:38] just one neighborhood, but it's divided by uh Davenport Farm Road. So, you've [6:42] got a lot of really good interconnectivity within the subdivision [6:46] as well that allows a resident to uh to pick which um access point uh would be [6:53] preferable. [6:57] Staff does recommend approval of Farmstead Preliminary Plat. It has been [7:01] reviewed by our technical review committee and has received approval. Of [7:06] course, if approved, then they will uh eventually have to submit construction [7:10] drawings and prior to a final plat. Are there any questions for this preliminary [7:16] plan? >> Yes, sir. [7:18] » Stephen, I just I believe it's been taken care of, but the roundabout is a [7:22] future item. Is it taken into account for the the laying out of the lots? [7:27] » It is. Yes, sir. >> Thank you. [7:32] Uh since they're delaying the uh roundabout, do they plan [7:40] on putting stop lightss up there then until that happens or [7:44] » that has not been expressed? No, sir. [7:51] » Does uh the city of Winterville have a larger [7:55] greenway plan that the movement ties into or is this just for this property? [8:00] There is a greenway plan master plan. Um I I believe it's in the parks and wrecks [8:07] uh like master plan document. I don't know exactly where all the uh the [8:14] project goes. I I assume and believe though that it goes through this area [8:20] and um I think that's where we got it as a proposal um as a condition. Anyway, I [8:27] think on our greenway master plan, it was stating a greenway along that uh [8:32] canal. [8:36] » You said the developer is here tonight. >> We do have a representative for the [8:42] developer. >> Any questions u for the developer? [8:54] » Thank you. [8:59] Right. You've had a chance to hear from staff uh and the recommendation [9:06] concerning Farmstead preliminary plaque. Well, it's the [9:10] pleasure of the board. [9:18] Make a motion we approve the preliminary plan. [9:22] Second. It's been moved and properly second. [9:27] All those in favor of uh the farmstead preliminary plat use your voting sign of [9:33] I. >> I. [9:34] » Any opposed? None opposed. Uh next item uh Southbrook for phase three [9:41] reasonzoning. Uh before staff come up, please make sure that you uh review the [9:46] uh reasonzoning consistency and reasonable statements before you as we [9:52] [clears throat] will have to consider these if um when it comes to [9:56] [clears throat] approval and or denial [10:00] that. >> All right. Thank you. And and for our [10:04] second item today, we do have a reszoning is Southbrook phase three HUD [10:10] resoning request. Um this board has seen Southbrook um a number of times in [10:17] different uh submittals. Today again we're looking at just a a reszoning for [10:23] its third phase. A majority of the site has actually already been uh preliminary [10:28] platted. So we're just looking at a little bit over an 8 acre site today. Um [10:34] Southbrook, as you can see, is located in this uh blue area right here. So, we [10:39] have Church Street going north to south here. You've got Lori Ellis going east [10:46] to west just on the northern uh boundary of the project. And then just to give [10:51] you some uh relation, um we've got Rei Branch down here south of the site and [10:57] Old Tar Road over here. This red uh star that we have right here just [11:03] representing the rough location of phase three that we're going to be discussing [11:07] today. [11:10] Just a reminder, a planned unit development is a form of a reszoning and [11:15] a use that allows flexibility and design for subdivisions to allow cluster [11:22] development in exchange for permanently open and preserved open space. We're [11:27] actually going to see exactly that today. There's a site that the applicant [11:31] would have to go over a riperian buffer or a stream to add the remaining single [11:37] family attached. Uh the proposal today is exchanging that for an area that they [11:45] would not have to impact another riparian buffer. So this is exactly what [11:50] we're looking at um today. In addition, Southbrook was approved for a PUD um in [11:56] that it does help ensure the protection of environmentally sensitive features on [12:01] its site. [12:05] And just to remind everybody of the timeline, this project has been going on [12:10] for quite some time. In October 2022, the applicant uh met with the community, [12:16] had two community meetings for public input. Sound council approved the PUD in [12:22] January 2023. Phases one and two of the uh site have [12:29] been approved for preliminary plat. So just a reminder, the entire site has [12:34] been approved for preliminary plat other than the 8.53 acres we're discussing [12:39] today. So again, for the reasonzoning for the 8.53 acres that we're discussing [12:44] today, we have not seen a preliminary plat for that uh phase yet. [12:50] The applicant is Southbrook NC LLC Scott Moore who's with us today. Again, for [12:57] those online, uh this is located on Church Street Extension and Lorie Ellis [13:02] Road. Phase three or what we're considering [13:06] today is a 8.536 acre site of the total 245.43 [13:15] acres in total. Again, our current zoning district for this was a PUD. It [13:21] was approved in January 2023. Um, as a R six putt and a multifamily [13:28] residential pud. Today, they are requesting [13:33] it's it's still remaining the same Southbrook PUD. However, the applicant [13:40] is requesting a small portion of the R six be converted to multifamily [13:45] residential. In uh simpler terms, they are requesting that the 8 acres be [13:51] changed to allow single family attached rather than just single family detached [13:56] for that one area. And this is the concept map um of [14:02] Southbrook. So, as you can see with the lighter [14:06] colors right here, this is single family detach. There's a little bit darker kind [14:11] of um yellowish color that represents single family attached. Initially, the [14:18] applicant was planning on uh taking the remaining single family attached units [14:23] to this location. After further engineering and reviewing, the applicant [14:28] found that they can eliminate this environmental impact if they uh [14:37] shifted this to the multifamily residential zoning district in the pud. [14:42] So if they uh shifted the the single family attached to this location. So [14:48] therefore, it would not only eliminate a riparian buffer impact right there, but [14:52] it would also move the single family attached away from fronting Church [14:56] Street interior to the site. As you can see here, [15:01] of course, no other changes to the pud uh are are part of this project. So the [15:07] density will not change at all, nor does the overall count in total number of [15:12] units change at all in this proposal. just to give you another kind of [15:18] overview of the entire project. So, this is uh L'Orealis Road up here. This is [15:23] Church Street Extension here. So, it's a it's a large swath of land. Um you know, [15:29] a large project. Most of it's been preliminary platted, but uh right here [15:34] where the star is, that's representative of the uh phase three. And zooming in [15:39] again, uh just looking a little bit closer at the phase three. I do want to [15:44] point out that phase two did provide two stubs into phase three. This is great [15:50] interconnectivity, a lot better interconnectivity that than would be [15:54] allowed at the previous area as well. [16:01] The future land use plan for this site um of course the putt has already been [16:06] approved but it was approved at a suburban residential. So suburban [16:11] residential suggest 1 to three units per acre. This development is uh at a [16:17] density of 2.49 units per acre. So again it's clustered development. Um so some [16:25] smaller lots but leaving a lot of open land because of it. [16:30] So the request achieves again the u it is within the suggested density of the [16:36] comprehensive land use plan. It also utilizes a conservative subdivision [16:42] design and by that it is clustering its development to ensure that environmental [16:48] sites are uh avoided as much as possible. It also as far as the zoning [16:54] ordinance goes, Southbrook is the perfect candidate for a pud. Um it has [17:00] significant environmental challenges on its site which has led to the design [17:05] that we see today. The request also aligns with PUD [17:10] principles in that it provides u equal or higher quality design than if they [17:17] had gone with their previous design. This uh will allow two stubs through the [17:22] area, great interconnectivity and transportation design. It also [17:26] eliminates a riparian buffer and environmental impact. [17:31] Therefore, staff does recommend approval of Southbrook phase 3 resoning request [17:36] as it is consistent with the comprehensive land use plan and is [17:41] reasonable. Um, we will have a public comment uh [17:45] session prior to the planning and zoning consistency and reasonleness. Um, does [17:50] anybody have any questions for staff? [17:55] » Yes, sir. >> Just help a senior citizen out here. Um [18:00] we're going the proposal is for attached housing be relocated to this site. [18:07] The housing that we're eliminating was that attached or single family? [18:13] » So the the best way to to state it is location. So um they have set out the [18:23] total number of uh units they can have. They have already preliminary platted [18:29] all of the single family detach units. What this location would be? So, [18:36] previously they would have placed it closer to Church Street right [18:44] here. >> Those being attached. [18:46] » Those being attached. Yes, sir. And then with this one, they are shifting those [18:50] single family attached to this area and eliminating this whole kind of land area [18:56] and leaving an open space. >> So the housing design is the same in [19:00] both areas basically. >> That's correct. [19:02] » It's single family attached. >> That's correct. Yes, sir. [19:05] » No change in numbers. >> Absolutely. Yes, sir. [19:07] » Thank you. [19:11] » I have a question. >> Yes, sir. appears that the [19:15] move is going from a smaller location to a much larger location. [19:23] » I I agree. It does appear to be a larger kind of swath of land. Yes, sir. But [19:28] it's still um they're still limited on the number of units they can have. [19:34] There'll be more greenway, more >> and they're also still limited on so [19:39] each single family attached unit itself has to have a minimum size for you know [19:44] it to sit on and it still has to meet that minimum size there as well. [19:52] Any [19:58] additional questions for staff? [20:07] Do we have any public [20:12] comments? [20:22] Good evening everyone. Happy new year. It's good to be here. My name is Scott [20:26] Moore. I'm the applicant and also one of the owners of Southbrook NC uh LLC. And [20:32] I just want to thank Stephen for the presentation and all his help kind of [20:35] through this process. He's been great in working through the the putt and [20:38] bringing that to you today. I'll go through a quick presentation covering a [20:42] lot of what he covered. I think answering some of the questions that you [20:45] guys had as well. And just bear with me. Um the site plan that is before you [20:49] right here, that is the approved concept plan that was a part of the the PUD [20:54] drawing. And since we're the only PUD in Winterville, it's actually good to talk [20:59] about what the purpose of this concept plan is alone. And it's really meant to [21:03] be schematic in nature as it's shown. It's it's a general layout of housing, [21:08] of open space, um with road connectivity uh and stubs to neighboring properties. [21:14] Um, and it also, uh, I think as as Stephen pointed out, all those areas in [21:19] light yellow is where our R six zoning districts are, and all the areas over on [21:23] the the western portion in the dark yellow, that's where the uh, the MR uh, [21:28] zoning is as well. So, the concept plan is really just that. It's not made to be [21:34] uh, a final location of the roads, although it gives general layouts and [21:38] uh, that's really when you start getting to the final layout, that's what the [21:42] subdivision sketch plan is for. So, the reason for all of this, and I think [21:46] Steve did a great job alluding to it, um throughout our entire development [21:49] process, we meet with staff. We also talk with the uh contractors that are on [21:54] site. We're constantly learning valuable feedback about it as we're as we're [21:58] engaging the construction process and and obtaining feedback. So, it makes [22:02] good sense for us to try to make something that's more efficive, [22:05] efficient, more effective, and then ultimately leads to a better layout for [22:09] the entire community. So, for this evening, and I think he's really hit on, [22:13] we're really focusing on the two areas. The concept plan and those are the boxes [22:16] that are over to the right. And we're really just uh we're going to update [22:20] that with what is shown I mean to the left, excuse me, the boxes to the left. [22:24] We're updating that with the areas that are shown on to the right. So, as as he [22:30] has as he has said, we are doing this really for two main reasons. One is to [22:34] avoid the crossing of that area and really to to sort of give up the [22:39] development rights to go over and provide anything on Church Street. And [22:43] then yes, what we're doing is we're taking that area which the question was [22:47] how big is it? It's six acres. We're going over to the area to that is [22:51] actually beneath the the buffer. Um that's that's crossing up from kind of [22:56] southwest to northeast. That is eight acres of area. And yes, we're we're [23:01] taking that MR zoning and we're putting it in that location and it still gives [23:05] us really good uh you know continuity in terms of our uses puts it all together. [23:11] And I think is what's been really great explained is um that whole area now is [23:16] much bigger buffer from Church Street. We don't have a lot of units that are [23:20] backing up to Church Street or sitting up on Church Street. So it kind of [23:24] protects itself from Church Street. And then again, anything that's interior to [23:28] the site just kind of lends itself to a develop a better development pattern. So [23:32] we got open space and greenway, you know, along the area on Church Street, [23:36] which really again affords itself to be a better opportunity. Also provides so [23:40] that when people are driving down Church Street, it really opens up better for [23:44] our entrance. We have a lot more green space preservation that's going on there [23:47] while again all of the the homes are taking place in the interior side of the [23:51] property. So really, it's just the two things. It's it's not crossing the [23:56] buffer buffer, which is great for environmental and lessening the [23:59] environmental impact. And then it's just taking what's there on Church Street [24:03] originally approved and moving it internal to the site. And those are the [24:06] only two things that were here. And uh if you guys have any questions, I'm [24:10] happy to answer them. >> You know, I always got questions. [24:14] » Of course, bring it. >> Okay. Uh Mr. Moore, your development [24:18] basically has got 612 lots. That's that's a large size growth [24:23] for us. Yes, sir. >> Uh if it everything works out and this [24:28] change is all approved by council where the number one is up there on the right [24:32] hand side where you're eliminating the U buildings in that lot. Does that lot [24:40] become possibly available for future fire station? Because [24:47] as this town grows, our fire department has got to grow with it. And I'm [24:51] wondering is that does that lot work become open to development [24:56] for something as such as that? >> That would be a discussion that we would [25:00] have with town council if they would have any interest in that. I mean surely [25:04] um right now what this secures it as as it's going to be an undeveloped parcel [25:09] and the only way that it would change from that is if we come back and then [25:13] again revise that to say hey we have a new development activity fill in the [25:18] blank of whatever that is an interest from party you would have another [25:22] opportunity to be able to weigh the options of what that should be. So to [25:27] your point, it could be a number of things. If the town has interest in it, [25:30] surely we'd be able to talk with them about it and that even at a later date. [25:34] Correct. >> Absolutely. Yeah. [25:44] Are there any additional questions? [25:51] Thank you. Any other public comments? [25:56] Okay. There being no additional public [25:59] comments, uh [clears throat] you would direct your attention to the [26:04] uh statement of consistency and reasonleness. [26:08] » Mr. Chairman. >> Yes, [26:10] » Mr. Chairman. I'd like to speak to the board uh in the to make it a little [26:16] faster, I would like to see us uh bundle the consistency and reasonleness along [26:22] with the approval or disapproval. because it basically falls together. If [26:26] it's a consistent and reasonable, it's going to get approved. If it's not, not [26:30] going to get approved. I would like it tonight's action be one vote that would [26:35] cover reasonleness and consistency along with approval or disapproval if that's [26:41] okay with this board. So with that being um suggested each [26:48] member if you would review the consistency statement and the [26:52] reasonleness statement [26:58] and the uh statements with regard to [27:03] uh [27:07] the request being uh fall within the construct of this document. [27:19] Is there any discussion in which anyone find that it is not consistent, it is [27:26] not reasonable and or does not meet the requirements. [27:37] There being none, what is the pleasure of the board, [27:41] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we approve the resoning because I find [27:46] it to be reasonable and consistent according to our [27:54] information provided to us. [27:58] » Second. >> Okay, it's been moved and properly [28:01] second. >> All those in favor your vote and sign of [28:05] I. >> I. [28:07] » Any opposed? Hearing none. report from staff. [28:16] » Don't really have anything uh for you guys this month. Um I will say I think [28:20] that it's probably going to be getting busy this year um just with some of the [28:25] phone calls that we've already gotten uh early this year. Kind of surprising. I [28:30] don't I don't know. We might see some uh more resonings and plats coming through [28:34] this year. So, um, I I want to go ahead and say thank y'all for y'all's [28:39] participation this year and look forward to working with y'all. Thank you. [28:44] » Any comments from board members for staff or for the good of the [28:54] being none, uh, the chair entertain a motion to adjurnn. [29:00] » Make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. [29:03] » Been moved in properly second. All those in favor you to vote and sign I. Any [29:07] opposed? >> Meeting stands adjourned. Good evening [29:10] everyone. >> Dominic. [29:24] » I hope things get worked out >> quicker than later. [29:44] Yeah. [29:59] » Oh, absolutely. Yes, sir. I appreciate [30:08] » you. [30:13] » Well, I guess I'll see. [30:25] » Well, next week. [30:33] being [30:53] I'll be back tomorrow. [31:23] » [laughter]