1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,160 call the council meeting of Lake for Wednesday 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,000 February United 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,320 States stand 4 00:00:23,599 --> 00:00:26,800 naisy and 5 00:00:28,599 --> 00:00:39,760 Justice roll call D here G 6 00:00:33,399 --> 00:00:39,760 herei here here here Newman 7 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:53,079 here approval of the agenda motion to approve the agenda as 8 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:11,280 presented you hear me yes Kaki yes labor yes mcnut yes Newman yes O'Brien yes do 9 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:18,320 yes correspondences one from uh car 10 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:26,560 wman by the charity program get started 11 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:26,560 participating we have two froming 12 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:40,399 report motion to receive and file as presented 13 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,640 second all in favor 14 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:54,550 iOS uh first call the public it's an opportunity for citizens to address the 15 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:57,650 csil on agenda items only [Music] 16 00:02:08,119 --> 00:02:11,920 favor even my name 17 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:21,959 is I have a 18 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:28,959 letter here tonight to rec General legal service prosecu 19 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:33,840 Services doesn't make sense um as you know General phosy 20 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:41,280 um served the village for 2 years joined our firm as a council 21 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:48,680 this keeping prosecutions with our firm is efficient and right thing to do it's 22 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:54,959 efficient benefits both us and you why because for one thing for us selfish it 23 00:02:51,040 --> 00:03:00,319 is easier to zoning issue and there's a ordinance issue things like that we can 24 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:06,040 work on an inhouse more efficient that efficienty also translates to you all it 25 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:11,200 saves time it saves money not to mention you also AR think two attorneys talk to 26 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:16,560 each our when we work on a project we don't bu unless it's extremely unique 27 00:03:14,519 --> 00:03:20,879 situation almost never we have the ability to provide you 28 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,920 an outstanding prosecutor John Kumer of our office has been Prosecuting for 29 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:29,159 years he has glowing recommendations for every judge and every police officer 30 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:33,159 he's ever working with so I'm not concerned about providing you good 31 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:38,680 quality prosecution of Health Services Jennifer and predecessors have 32 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:43,400 served eligible R my understanding for since the 1950s and they've done that 33 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:49,640 with prosecutions and uh General Services together it seems inefficient 34 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:54,760 and nonsensical to support them now at least in my opinion I realize this isn't 35 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:58,120 a time for Q&A but I wanted to share my thoughts with you and I will remain here 36 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:00,599 for meeting till that agenda items pass and should you have want to ask any 37 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,079 question thank you thank 38 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:29,520 you Dave Renwick 685 Amenia I'd like to welcome Aon laborne to 39 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:35,120 council and uh Aon welcome back you made it 40 00:04:31,479 --> 00:04:41,360 uh and Jennifer however this comes out my opinion when I was on Council of 41 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:50,919 you was great it still is it always has been um it's it's your guys choice 42 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:58,600 but you got the Cadillac right there so 43 00:04:53,199 --> 00:05:04,120 uh oh before I launch into my idiocy I wanted to I don't like ambushing people 44 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:10,360 and I'm not trying to Ambush Mike uh the intersection at Penny Lake and 45 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:17,720 Wolverine Drive the patch that was put across there is literally falling 46 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:22,440 apart I mean it's a bump to run so this this is probably the project that will 47 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:27,600 never end but uh bless you all for trying and if somebody conceded that 48 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:33,880 that would be great the reason the reason I really 49 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:41,440 came tonight though is uh the uh last month the auditor was here and 50 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:46,000 there was there was a I I appreciate the vagueness with which I was described but 51 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:53,319 uh there was a comment made and asked uh about the uh 52 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:59,039 excessiveness of the fund balance and this and that and I I'm just here to say 53 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:03,680 that of course an auditor is going to tell you that it's not excessive 54 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:07,160 Auditors love money for you to have money that's a wonderful 55 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:13,360 thing but not for the 56 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:22,360 people the people need a balanced budget a fair 57 00:06:17,479 --> 00:06:30,240 budget one that is not excessive and I would respectfully suggest that 58 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:36,759 you asked the wrong person the last time I I would respectfully 59 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:42,759 suggest that someone preferably the administrator contact the 60 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:46,479 MML and include that paper that I sent to everyone on Council I'm sorry Erin 61 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:56,120 you were not included but uh send that paper that shows what 62 00:06:51,039 --> 00:07:01,479 the excesses have been over the last oh God 14 years now 63 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:06,960 and ask the MML if they consider it excessive 64 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:12,960 they're the guys that you go to when you sue somebody they're the guys that you 65 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:20,160 go to for legal advice outside of your attorney ask the 66 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:26,400 MML because I truly believe they will not give you the answer that the auditor 67 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:31,759 did and 68 00:07:28,039 --> 00:07:36,879 in talking about this with uh an 69 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:40,440 acquaintance they asked if the village is aware of 70 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,759 gasb 54 which I had never heard of 71 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:55,039 before yeah gby is all the governmental accounting regulations that were held to 72 00:07:51,800 --> 00:08:01,199 and we're we are up to date on all that and and Raina is um she is really she's 73 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:06,800 the one who likes is our auditor of all of our gasby items we have we have many 74 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:15,120 of them that's just one of them so the village has a fund balance policy right 75 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:20,680 now um I I know this isn't question and answer and I apologize yeah I'm sure we 76 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:26,080 do I'm I'm sure we have a fund balance policy on I have never seen a fund 77 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:31,839 balance policy and a fund balance policy actually breaks it down apparently I I 78 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:39,519 just found about about this two nights ago but it breaks down your fund balance 79 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:46,399 into five or six different categories rather than one or two rather 80 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:51,880 than I can't even remember the words now but uh right now we've got like one 81 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:57,000 that's restricted and one that's not there's a general and a restricted fund 82 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:02,640 and no there's like five or six that that you should have 83 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:08,720 and we don't and and we should not be collecting money and then figuring out 84 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:12,200 what to do with it we should be figuring out what money we need and collecting 85 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:21,000 that money so that's that's just that's my 86 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:26,880 point and uh I will I will send along like I said I just figured this out last 87 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:26,880 night about 1 in the 88 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,399 morning okay thank 89 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:43,839 you motion to close else 90 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:46,839 second by second by Brian Moos all in favor 91 00:09:49,839 --> 00:10:01,079 opposed move our cons set agenda motion to approve as 92 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:09,079 presented second motion by s by jerini roll 93 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:17,399 call ki yes playboard yes mot yes Newman yes O'Brien yes DC yes Jeremy 94 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:26,560 yes board appointments we don't have any so now we're on to our presentations 95 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:31,720 and oh yes thank you Council um I I do want to thank Mr 96 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:37,160 Renwick because he did point out something that I have been dealing with 97 00:10:35,079 --> 00:10:43,680 um in my travels around the village when I find some problems I immediately take 98 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:47,000 action as quickly as I can I have uh a picture here and I showed the council 99 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:52,720 people here a picture of the intersection that uh Mr Renwick was 100 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:56,959 concerned about and my uh immediate response was to contact the contractor 101 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:01,680 responsible for that because in the village we hold the contractor 102 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:06,519 responsible for U all the paving up to a year in advance or up to a year 103 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:11,720 afterwards and um this is a quality contractor so Mr Harold sarder said I've 104 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:16,839 got it uh that will be fixed to no charge this spring so I wanted Council 105 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:21,440 to know that uh uh that will be taken care of this 106 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:27,000 spring and as I've represented the council before U All the Monies that are 107 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:32,839 being held from our major Paving program last uh year uh I will be reviewing all 108 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:37,600 of the roads and calling to attention a parts that need to be repaired by that 109 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:42,000 contractor as well and those be taken care of this spring as well so uh wanted 110 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:50,000 to assure the council that we're on top of that um the the only other item uh 111 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:54,120 because it's a a slow winter um is that um I wanted to bring you up to date on 112 00:11:51,440 --> 00:12:02,480 the Clara Miller Park cycling challenge area um this last Monday um I called Mr 113 00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:09,120 Mark Russo who had said that he was going to maintain his equipment and do 114 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:15,000 that this spring when I called him on Monday he said Mike I forgot to call you 115 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:20,639 uh he was he was given an offer on his equipment and he sold it all so uh he 116 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:27,639 told me that he is not available this spring to do that um not wanting to be 117 00:12:25,199 --> 00:12:32,920 dependent on just one person however this is a list of all the contractor 118 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:40,120 we've sent that uh request to it's 19 contractors one of which uh we received 119 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:45,560 a uh a price back already five of which have called me with 120 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:51,440 questions um some of them uh it's too small a project for them um but I have 121 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:55,440 um the the one quote let me back up just a little bit Mark Russo had estimated 122 00:12:53,199 --> 00:13:01,519 that project that somewhere between $8 and $10,000 to do uh Superior I got to 123 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:07,079 be a little bit careful here 124 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:13,639 their quote was in that ballpark so he had quoted it properly and so um I 125 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:18,760 wanted to U make sure that Council knew that um we're looking to have uh more 126 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:22,560 quotes for you none of them wanted to do it in the winter time so they were all 127 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:27,160 looking to get out there in Spring move equipment there uh before frost laws are 128 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:33,199 off but um I'm hoping to end up with four or five more uh quotes um but 129 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:38,760 that's the latest and greatest what's going on in the village so unless you 130 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:45,839 add more questions I will yield the floor to the 131 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,839 president thank you any 132 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:53,519 questions a whole pile of material there just waiting to be moved around yes 133 00:13:52,160 --> 00:14:00,000 that's right okay thank you 134 00:13:55,959 --> 00:14:05,160 Mike have uh no public hearings so uh new 135 00:14:00,839 --> 00:14:05,160 business there administrative committee 136 00:14:05,959 --> 00:14:12,279 recommendations ccil we have uh three recommendations tonight for you to 137 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:18,519 consider from the administrative committee the committee is its form now 138 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:24,639 it's uh president protm Duff council member Newman and uh council member 139 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:29,240 O'Brien um the first recommendation that comes forward um I guess indirectly so 140 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:36,519 to speak has to do with the citizen of the Year award as I've explained in my 141 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:42,240 memo dated February 7th um when the committee reviewed the 142 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:46,399 nominations that had been received for citizen of the Year there was a question 143 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:52,480 in the committee's mind as to whether or not the one nominee Fred meiser who is a 144 00:14:49,959 --> 00:14:57,160 member of the memorial committee was actually eligible to be named as the 145 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:04,480 citizen of the year because of the fact that he is on the Memorial committee so 146 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:10,680 um based upon that issue at that time uh there was um basically a recommendation 147 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:15,399 for Mr Meisner not to be named citizen of the year not because of anything he 148 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:21,560 did or didn't do but other than the fact that um he is a member of the uh the 149 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:24,279 Veterans Memorial committee U Mr Duff I don't know if you have anything you want 150 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:31,399 to add to that we just again of felt like um the citizen of the Year 151 00:15:26,839 --> 00:15:35,759 shouldn't necessarily be um named for either being a chairperson of a board or 152 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:38,639 being because they're on a board it should be something that they're 153 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:45,720 actually doing to help the community as a whole so it's kind of the 154 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:51,199 way we thought it so and then um subsequent to that I had 155 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:56,639 a chance to to do a little bit of homework so to speak and um there is 156 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:03,160 some precedent for a member of a border committee um to be named as the citizen 157 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:08,759 of the year um as I indicated in in the memo I put together for you um Lyn Lewis 158 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:13,720 who was the chair of the uh Parks and Recreation board back in 159 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,880 2015 was named as the citizen of the year um in addition Ron Krueger who was 160 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:23,680 named in 2011 um was at the time a member of the 161 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:28,639 Veterans Memorial committee um Ron Krueger's name came up in the course of 162 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:32,839 the conversation that we had at the admin administrative committee meeting 163 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:37,000 that night but none of us was certain whether Ron had actually been on the 164 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:42,440 board or was just Consulting with the board at that point in time so but as it 165 00:16:39,319 --> 00:16:47,680 turns out based upon my review of the records um he was in fact on the 166 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Veterans Memorial committee at the time that he was named citizen of the year so 167 00:16:50,319 --> 00:17:00,160 there is a proposed resolution contained in the memo if um that's the council's 168 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:03,959 wish otherwise the uh the recommendation or the non- 169 00:17:01,319 --> 00:17:10,600 reccommendation uh from the um administrative committee based upon 170 00:17:05,919 --> 00:17:10,600 their understanding um would 171 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:23,520 stand motion to name run or Fred meiser the 2024 citizen of the Year 172 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:36,720 second motion by jimy second by O'Brien uh roll call mayborn yes n yes Newman 173 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:36,720 yes O'Brien yes D yes K yes Cas NE yes 174 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:45,799 very and here yep and I will reach out to Mr meiser and we'll make arrangements 175 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:50,000 to ass is available to have them here at the March meeting so we can formally 176 00:17:52,600 --> 00:18:00,120 recognize number two uh the second has to do with the uh 177 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:06,000 prosecuting Attorney Services for the village and just so everyone is clear um 178 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:12,120 we're not uh talking about getting a new Village attorney per se salowski and the 179 00:18:08,679 --> 00:18:16,400 firm that she's um associated with right now of council to right now um would 180 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:22,720 continue to be the village attorney what we're talking about now is whether or 181 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:27,799 not um or which law firm uh would in fact serve as the village prosecuting 182 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:33,320 attorney um The Firm that had previously served as a village prosecuting attorney 183 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:37,960 as such does not exist anymore and is not eligible to continue with those 184 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:43,919 Services um I had sent out requests for proposals to a number of area law firms 185 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:50,360 and the two that we received was were from first the Atkinson need firm but uh 186 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Mr rrop is here on behalf of tonight again with whom um galowski is currently 187 00:18:54,360 --> 00:19:03,080 of councel and the other is the law firm of Rosati Schultz Chic at amps buler 188 00:19:00,159 --> 00:19:08,840 which is located in Farmington Hills um both are very good firms uh both would 189 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:16,200 be capable of doing the work um the prior administrative committee um which 190 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:22,760 was uh then president nedro uh president protm Duff and councilman orrian looked 191 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:27,200 at the issue back in uh November and their recommendation at that time was 192 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:33,919 that the Rosati firm be awarded the contract given that the uh the committee 193 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:39,880 reformed so to speak um with the seating of the new 194 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:45,400 Council again now it's uh Duff um Newman in O'Brien we took the issue back to the 195 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:49,679 administrative committee last month and the committee again comes back with the 196 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:54,400 same recommendation to award the contract to uh the Rosati Law Firm so Mr 197 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:59,360 Duff I know if you anything you want to add to that um if Council has any 198 00:19:57,159 --> 00:20:02,320 questions um um I was part of the of the 199 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,360 administrative committee meetings Chief sovic was also part of the 200 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,799 administrative committee meetings if you have any questions You' be able to try 201 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,799 to answer 202 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:24,799 those Chief could you elaborate a little bit on your experience with the uh Law 203 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:30,200 Firm yes with the uh the secondary uh secondary Law Firm um the prosecutor 204 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:34,919 Chuck Snell uh worked with him for many years at the city of South Lion for 30 205 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:38,760 years um he's fairly he's very very competent represents not only just more 206 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:44,039 than just our agencies but other police departments um very responsive um very 207 00:20:42,679 --> 00:20:50,000 personable he's established great relationships with the judges here at 208 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:54,039 521 as well as other um district courts um defense attorneys um he works very 209 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,200 well with the court Second District Court um comes highly recommended by 210 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:01,679 Alex Black the court administrator over there and um I just feel we should 211 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:08,840 probably just continue to move forward with him um several trials at the uh at 212 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:14,120 the felony circuit court level very successful has a great reputation and 213 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,799 for many years when I was a South Line he was the city's attorney so no issues 214 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:24,080 no problems very responsive and need something that gets back with you right 215 00:21:20,919 --> 00:21:30,799 away thank you make a motion that we approve a resolution to adopt radi as 216 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:38,600 the prosecuting attorney service for the 217 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:47,720 second motion by second by Newman um s aoll 218 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:55,440 call yes O'Brien yes do yes jini yes Ki uh yes mayborn yes MCN uh yes 219 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,919 the third recommendation from the administrative committee has to do with 220 00:22:03,159 --> 00:22:10,440 um compensation for the villages to administrative assistance um as I 221 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:16,520 indicated in the memo that I prepared for you um last 222 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:20,520 year um during the course of contract negotiations with The Village's two 223 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:24,640 bargaining units um we were able to reach agreements the negotiating 224 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:31,440 committee at that time had recommended that the nonunion employees receive the 225 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:35,159 same w increases that the members of the two bargaining units were going to 226 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:41,679 receive for the 2526 uh fiscal year um in doing so 227 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:47,640 though the negotiating committee recognized that the um the amount of 228 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:52,799 compensation the wages that were being paid to the two administrative 229 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:58,520 assistants really were um were deficient that they were out of whack in terms of 230 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:05,240 um what comparable employees and other communities were making um not 231 00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:08,880 consistent with uh uh the number of years of experience that both of them 232 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,840 had with the village in the scope of their responsibilities here at Village 233 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:18,360 on a day-to-day basis having said that the in recommending that the 234 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:23,320 administrative assistants receive the same amount of 235 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:27,600 compensation um as of July of last year uh the committee also recommended at 236 00:23:25,159 --> 00:23:32,600 that time that we take another look at the two employees compensation at the 237 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:39,520 end of the fiscal year so um that's what we did um I went and looked at the 238 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:45,200 updated the 24 25 wage and salary survey survey that's been prepared by the 239 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Michigan Municipal League which it is a um a voluntary survey um communities 240 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:54,440 that are members of The League don't have to provide the data but the 241 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:59,720 trade-off is if you want to have access to the data you have to provide it to 242 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:03,840 them so um my position is that we've always participated I've always provided 243 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:09,919 the data because I think the data that I have received in return from the MML has 244 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:14,919 been very important in terms of our negotiations and the way that we've 245 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:19,919 treated our employees so I went back over the wage and salary survey U put 246 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:25,039 together some information about what other employees and other communities 247 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:30,360 have comparable titles and comparable responsibilities um are currently being 248 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:34,919 paid um um I had emailed that in response to everybody in response to a 249 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:39,799 request I received from Mr jini earlier in the week in addition there's a hard 250 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:45,880 copy of the information that I put together um at the table for everyone 251 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:51,679 tonight um the reason I listed a number of different positions there is 252 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:57,640 because what one person with one title in one community may do in another 253 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:02,279 Community is could be very same or very different what someone in another 254 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:07,440 Community with the very same job title does so um I I covered a VAR of a 255 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:11,960 variety of of positions the one thing that struck me 256 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:16,440 going through there is that um for the most part I mean with with maybe one or 257 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:22,159 two outliers um our administrative assistants are among the lowest paid of 258 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:25,760 all the um the employees that are listed so the discussion we had at the 259 00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:30,720 administrative committee led to a resolution that the two administratives 260 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:37,480 received receive a 3% wage increase um for this year going forward 261 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:45,279 that is retroactive to January 1st of 2025 then in addition um when the other 262 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:48,600 contracts come up for um for review in uh the middle of the year then I would 263 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,559 expect that we'll take another look at their compensation going forward at that 264 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:56,760 point in time as well so but at this point in time the recommendation from 265 00:25:54,799 --> 00:26:02,039 the admin committee is that the administrative assistant get a three % 266 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:06,919 wage increase retroactive to January 1 make a motion that we approve the 267 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:10,559 resolution put forth to um change the administrative committee or 268 00:26:08,919 --> 00:26:15,799 administrative assistance to receive an additional 3% retroactive to January 1 269 00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:23,360 2025 second by by Newman I have a comment 270 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:27,799 before we vote um if if I understand your chart Dave and I thank you Mark for 271 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:33,840 asking for this and Dave for supplying it they still are the lowest PID and I 272 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:39,039 don't think it's enough I think it needs to be more than what you're proposing 273 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:44,679 more than 3% and I'm not a 274 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:54,000 mathematician but just rounded it off I would say you know 24 not 23 16 but 275 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:57,000 24 and then relook at again in the summer 276 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,200 I mean my goodness I would agree with Pam and also say I just have a question 277 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,200 when was the last time that they had that pay increase is that an annual 278 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:15,120 thing is it it's dur During the period of time 279 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,600 that I've been here so for the last four years um um the administrative 280 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:25,760 assistance have received an increase every July the same as the the members 281 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:30,720 of the bargaining units in so um and again they received the 5% in increase 282 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:36,640 last July that all the members of The Bargain unit did they'll receive a 4% 283 00:27:33,399 --> 00:27:40,120 increase in the upcoming July same as the other members of the bargaining 284 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,640 units are what we're talking about now is something potentially above and 285 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:47,159 beyond with the members of the bargaining units this would be the first 286 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:54,039 time that we've addressed their compensation outside of the 287 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:58,640 normal uh contract cycle if you will so they did have an increase in July yeah 288 00:27:56,399 --> 00:28:02,760 so this is a second one that we talked about it that time because we 289 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,120 recognize that and so so that' be a total of 290 00:28:05,399 --> 00:28:16,000 7% this year or a total last year plus July so since 291 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:20,399 July but it's still if if your numbers are right here you know with that mix on 292 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:24,240 a yearly basis they are still quite a bit underpaid and I still think it's not 293 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,600 well that's partially because when you're starting from a lower base any 294 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:32,760 kind of a percentage increase is just not going to be as significant as a 295 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:38,120 fixed number that would better reflect appropriate compensation so when you're 296 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:47,320 raising 7% off of say 20 as opposed to 7% off of 30 the 30 is going to be look 297 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:53,039 much larger because that 7% of 30 is uh 2121 but so it's it's going to be higher 298 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:56,200 or $2 and so it would be a significant increase in that sense so since we are 299 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,880 starting at a lower number and since they were as we're seeing 300 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:05,840 undercompensated relative to other municipalities based on this data at 301 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:10,799 least it doesn't matter what percentage we necessarily do because it's still 302 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:15,320 going to lag as opposed to doing it in a more as a whole number true but you also 303 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:21,640 have to understand that anything that we do the other the other um collective 304 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:27,799 bargaining units are going to also be able to take and ask 305 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,799 for a whole 306 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:35,440 but they're also unionized entity carrying a pension and other things as 307 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,120 well other significant benefits no argument 308 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:45,360 there so in July they'll be do front of four right correct so there's five and 309 00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:52,399 then another four plus is three in the year's time so that's why um we had this 310 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:58,320 one because we recognized at that trying to bring that was and so that's why it 311 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:04,399 was you know so you're saying 3% now now 4% in July additional 4% in 312 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,640 July well that's why this came up because we did 313 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:14,440 recognize where it was at wanted to uh see if we could write 314 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,440 it 315 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:20,880 correctly well and if it appears that uh um the administrative assistants are 316 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:24,600 still undercompensated then we could take 317 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:29,640 another look at it um at the end of the year basically as we're doing right now 318 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:33,840 I mean again they'll have an increase in July assuming that Council gives them 319 00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:38,640 the same things that all the bargaining unit employees get which I would expect 320 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Council will because that's what we've traditionally done but then if 321 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:46,640 compensation is still an issue then we could look at it again in a year's time 322 00:30:44,679 --> 00:30:51,799 as well but whatever I mean if Council 323 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,159 wants to move forward with more than 3% I'm certainly not going to object I'm 324 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:00,760 not going to argue against it I mean if you want to set it as a flat rate you 325 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:06,080 can do it I mean um I see the work that the that the two employees do every day 326 00:31:02,919 --> 00:31:12,559 and um and I think I've said this before um they make my job a thousand times 327 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:18,080 easier um they make me look good based upon the um the calls that they field 328 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:24,039 and the information that they provide to people at the counter um and if if one 329 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:28,440 or both of them are away from their desk and someone comes up to the counter I 330 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,000 normally will get up and greet them just they don't feel like they're being 331 00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:37,519 ignored but I have no idea to take care of what people need most of the time I 332 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:42,080 mean if it wasn't for page and Tabitha to be perfectly honest The Village 333 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:45,320 operations would come to a screeching H well so I'm not going to argue if you 334 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:50,799 want to give them more if we if in June we have the 4% 335 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:56,399 increase the top compensation there will be over 336 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:59,799 24 yes just will be over 25 at that point yes 337 00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:03,760 CU I think that's that should be the 338 00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:07,479 [Music] 339 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:17,360 minimum I mean when you sit here and you think that you know flipping bur and 340 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360 McDonald's is what $15 an hour 341 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:28,120 now I would just like to add that as someone who's work at other 342 00:32:25,399 --> 00:32:33,960 municipalities the things that tab and page to like if you walk through White 343 00:32:31,399 --> 00:32:39,120 Lake Township for instance you pass a building department that's got three 344 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,720 people in it you pass a Treasurer's Department that's got two clerks not 345 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,880 including the treasurer or the deputy they've got two clerks in there you walk 346 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:52,799 to the assessing you walk over to the there's another office for zoning and 347 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:56,480 planning they can do every one of those jobs they could go over the township and 348 00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:00,840 they could fit in any one of those jobs because they are skilled in all all 349 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:05,440 those areas so it sounds to me that all more reason that this isn't enough 350 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:14,519 yeah I mean I don't want to vote no and have them not get a race I don't want to 351 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,639 do that but I definitely think they deserve more than what you're suggesting 352 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:24,399 or what the what the um proposed is the 353 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:33,440 propos order to call for the vote discussion can't do anything in terms of 354 00:33:30,639 --> 00:33:33,440 this 355 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:40,720 motion discuss all right we 356 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:49,880 call oh I'm saying We Roll Call yeah if 357 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:58,799 not I'm going say no on that one I think it should be more 358 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,799 you no orrian 359 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:11,679 yes go yes your meaning no Ki no mayor 360 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:22,399 no so now make a motion with the new number right some kind of a positive 361 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:26,599 motion yes yes all right my gut feel is to at least start 362 00:34:24,919 --> 00:34:33,839 at 24 uh um for the first one you know and 363 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,560 then maybe you know it's 23 for the second one does it need to be a percent 364 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:40,960 you a percent doesn't have to be a percent it could be a flat 365 00:34:42,839 --> 00:34:49,079 figure anybody have any thoughts I don't want to make a motion and go through 366 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:55,679 this again number well just from a p purely a 367 00:34:51,800 --> 00:35:02,000 mathematical standpoint um there's going to be about $2 wor of separation after 368 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:06,560 July well we just nied 3% so it was going to be slightly more than 24 for 369 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:12,040 the highest one with about a two $2 degree of separation with the three and 370 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:17,560 the four so now the three is gone which 371 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:23,200 um roughly about 7 70 cents on the highest one um I see an issue going to a 372 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:28,320 a flat dollar rate when you have people making different amounts I'm good with 373 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:32,839 the percentage bill just that I I'm I I don't know what that 374 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:37,160 percentage number would be more your B I'm just looking at it well to get the 375 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:41,760 lowest person with a $2 disparity to get the lowest person to 24 you're going to 376 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:46,079 have to get the highest person to right consider you know higher so you kind of 377 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:50,359 have to decide that's why I thought we were in a good spot because they were 378 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:57,240 going to be you know you know relatively good but um so 379 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,200 I mean I'm I'm open to suggestions I don't know what what what it is that 380 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 we're trying to 381 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:09,520 accomplish I inste of 382 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:19,240 three PM just as a point of reference if you took the the higher wage listed and 383 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,000 you gave it a 6 and 384 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:29,839 23% wage increase um that would put it up at 385 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:34,000 2397 that would must be 24 that's before the 4% right okay that's that's as it 386 00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:39,119 stands right now that's correct okay that's correct yeah that would take the 387 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:47,640 current wage up to just under $24 an hour what 6 point what to a 388 00:36:45,319 --> 00:36:55,520 6.6% okay wage increase all right so I'll make a 389 00:36:51,880 --> 00:37:01,720 motion uh that the admins you see the an increase in pay 6.6% 390 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:11,920 we we reacted back to January first of this year I'll 391 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:16,400 second have a that lebor for was second for an increase of Which percentage 6.6 392 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:34,040 6.6 have a roll call O'Brian yes D yes here meeting yes 393 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:34,040 yes Nei yes RoR yes MN yes Newman 394 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:53,040 yes I like to comment on the in general um when things go to the admin committee 395 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:58,760 and when they don't I feel like with a council of seven having three people 396 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:03,079 then providing information to four it really should only be at times when 397 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:07,720 as a council of seven we say we need to refer this to admin committee for more 398 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:12,960 in for more detail more research more due due diligence as opposed to like 399 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:19,079 what we just saw today where and two of these three we had in the citizen of the 400 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:22,960 year you had we had a slightly disputed issue where if it had been brought 401 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:27,560 before Council in general I could have told you that previous winners had been 402 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:31,119 on boards in fact Monique mgee was also on the historical committee the year for 403 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,560 the year that she woned and then in this case with the admin committee or with 404 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:39,280 the administrative assistant compensation we saw that there was a 405 00:38:36,319 --> 00:38:43,640 great deal more to discuss and instead we're operating without as 406 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,440 much information as a the four of us that were not on that committee because 407 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,960 we weren't there for all those discussions and so I think look going 408 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,599 forward it would make more sense that rather than just having issues by 409 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,000 default go to the administrative committee Council makes that 410 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,560 determination as a whole that yeah we do need more 411 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,480 uh time looked into it we need need more information from somebody to put a 412 00:39:02,319 --> 00:39:07,359 little more time into that and figure things out cu at this point it seems 413 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:10,400 like it's a little messy and not quite getting the results that we 414 00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:25,319 need if I could maybe make a comment or a suggestion yes um we're um planning 415 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:30,040 and I expect later on in this meeting we're going to be setting a work session 416 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:36,000 m for the 26 for two weeks from tonight and one of the things that um I have 417 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:41,480 roughed out in terms of the discussion points for that meeting would be 418 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:44,720 discussion about um whether or not we need to have a policy in terms of board 419 00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:49,640 and committee membership um based upon some some 420 00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:53,800 feedback that I've gotten from Individual council members since the 421 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:59,720 December meeting when the board and committee appointments were made so um 422 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:04,200 if that's something that is a general topic that Council thinks would be 423 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,880 appropriate for for discussion at the work session in a couple weeks and 424 00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:12,200 specifically we could have discussion about what the council envisions the 425 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:16,640 role of the administrative committee to be 426 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:20,680 and um how matters end up before the administrative committee I think what 427 00:40:18,359 --> 00:40:23,920 Mark is talking about is different and has been done in the past but that 428 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,160 doesn't mean to say that it can't be done that 429 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:37,520 how is that the work session it's on February 26th yes correct 430 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,079 one and you're going to be gone yes sorry about 431 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:48,720 that how was it currently decided what goes to the admin 432 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:55,079 committee I think it's largely in my discretion I mean and that's based upon 433 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:59,200 I've just kind of gotten into um routine as to what we route through based upon 434 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:05,480 my understanding of what had historically been routed through the 435 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,480 administrative committee by prior 436 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:15,720 administrators okay so that can be a topic yeah or we 437 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,760 could we could talk about it at a different time if we want to have a full 438 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:24,240 Council for that discussion too either way we could talk about it 439 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,359 that night and we could talk about it another night we don't have to I mean 440 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,920 it's only going to be a work session we're not going to have any motions or 441 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:34,440 any action taken at that meeting anyway well I'm sure you guys will be fine 442 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:39,119 without me so there's no worry there I have a 443 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,400 feeling you won't miss us either I will if I'm losing too much 444 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:49,599 money in Vegas let's go get them so we can make 445 00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:55,720 it a topic starting point for it okay discuss it there I'll keep that on the 446 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,720 list of talking point thank you 447 00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:08,640 um t a purchase okay time um I sent uh to the office I dropped up at the office 448 00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:12,160 information you have in your package I had uh 449 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:17,440 requested from uh 450 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:22,480 uh the um vendor we've had for the last I mean 10 or some odd years for English 451 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:27,720 CS a quote for 10 cases last year we had 11 I asked for a quote this year for 10 452 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:33,119 U we only had a little over one case left last year and 453 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:37,920 um the way it had turned out there weren't as many selling dates 454 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:45,839 either last year and I know the count the village ran out of tiki kles early 455 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:50,960 on so anyway so I asked for 10 cases and every year the amount per candle goes up 456 00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:56,800 and it it went up quite a bit I think this year you know the 457 00:42:53,319 --> 00:43:01,599 $5.79 a candle or a torch he called it course 458 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:08,000 so um last year when we uh sold them for $5 we did 459 00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:13,440 sell them at a loss uh U because they were 529 so you know 460 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:21,920 they've gone up 50 cents just round it up you know per candle for this year so 461 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:27,839 I still think that in my opinion the 10 cases is is a good number um it was the 462 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:32,599 lowest amount of candles the Torches we had left over that we have in several 463 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:37,160 years but now uh my biggest concern is or 464 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:42,240 Direction I Would I'd like some direction from everybody else is what 465 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:46,640 should we sell them at it's I don't want to get down to Nicholson pennies in fact 466 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:53,079 we're not going to have pennies anymore as I heard last night on TV so um and 467 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:59,119 make it easy from a seller standpoint of view uh rounding enough and at least 468 00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:04,359 into a quarter you know so if uh we purchase them for 469 00:44:01,319 --> 00:44:08,960 $579 uh we can sell them for 5 and A4 550 or 575 and even at that you know 470 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:15,680 every Everything is a loss um but at 575 it's only 4 Cent loss 471 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:21,160 so I don't I'm open for discussion Direction thoughts I we have I have 472 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:26,520 looked at other candles in fact we did look at Menards last year I almost went 473 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:31,599 there but those candles were thinner they weren't as as heavy uh and there 474 00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:36,000 wasn't as much wax there so they would have burned out even a lot 475 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:41,559 sooner and then we had to get them individually from different um locations 476 00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:46,079 I I couldn't just buy them from one location like I came from English 477 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:55,040 Gardens and then you know had to be delivered here so you one delivery here 478 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:59,079 um so yep I think it comes down to the quantities that people are going to buy 479 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:03,760 so that you're not dealing with change you know if it's going to be you know in 480 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:08,960 groups of two then 550 if it's in groups of four like if everybody buys four 481 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:15,160 eight or 12 you can do the 575 because it'll come out to even dollars you know 482 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:22,559 and if you do 550 you're on 240 you're only going to lose 60 bucks it's not 483 00:45:18,359 --> 00:45:27,000 really a material amount so I it's kind of a question if you can if you think 484 00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:32,200 people will buy in groups of four 4812 without people doing six and 10 so you 485 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:37,480 got to make change otherwise i' just go the 550 route and be good let see most 486 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,480 of them 487 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:47,760 are four five yeah I just I do the 550 so that way people it'll encourage 488 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:54,280 people to buy two so they don't have to dig in their pocket for quarters 489 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:58,680 yeah my thought would be I don't know why I guess I don't understand why we we 490 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:03,440 would sell it at a loss if we sell it for $6 in this case we'd put any 491 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:06,680 additional money we would have towards purchasing candles next year and look at 492 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:11,480 the cost next year but I don't know why we'd be subsidizing Lake for homeowners 493 00:46:08,359 --> 00:46:17,119 to buy candles well it's it's never been u a money-making thing for one it's 494 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:21,160 always it's been a Pur a convenience for those you know um which we wouldn't if 495 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:25,920 we put it towards the purchase of next year I'm just thinking that would take 496 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:33,599 out any any change just a nice flat number I I did I'm that's true too I was 497 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:38,480 just consuming from five U $5 a whole dollar per candle additional for next 498 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:43,000 year that's a big jump just kidding I don't 499 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:49,800 know I'm good either way are there any other options like solar battery cuz I 500 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:55,400 you see landscape lights that but people can go out and buy those you know I mean 501 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:59,880 I have looked at them I even looked at the citran you know by the oil ones but 502 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,960 my husband doesn't want to store in the garage he doesn't want to have the oil 503 00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:09,520 on the garage he just wants to buy them and toss them out on the fifth or the 504 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:14,440 fourth and the garbage the next day but I don't know where everybody else feels 505 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:18,280 about it so yeah that's def I mean I could do some research I don't know but 506 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:22,800 I don't want to be selling a whole bunch of different 507 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:26,440 options you know but that is a that is an option I know Dave you mentioned you 508 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:31,760 had some kind of a solar thing that you guys were thing yeah our next door 509 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:35,680 neighbors got some and uh they have them out all year round in fact and my wife 510 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:41,680 liked them so much that she found some online and that's what we have now too 511 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:46,800 so we put ours away in the winter but those were considerably more 512 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:51,880 than what we're talking about here in terms of purchase price too but it last 513 00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:57,359 longer hopefully yeah yeah we've had him for a 514 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,720 couple years that's true so I think that's where the Dilemma 515 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,319 comes because it's price goes up people can buy less anyway and go out and look 516 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:10,520 for alternatives on their own I mean I did be just as happy not to sell them 517 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:14,800 anymore but it's um the whole idea is just to light up the lake and it looks 518 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:19,760 so beautiful on the third and it's interesting you see pockets of where 519 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:22,839 nobody is doing it and you see a whole whole stretch or came can came all kinds 520 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,839 of can so 521 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:38,800 I guess I it's not a moneymaking or thing to do it's just a 522 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:44,760 for Aesthetics make it easy so whatever anybody wants to do is fine with me what 523 00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:49,640 would you like to do could buy someone I mean 550 or six works I mean I'm sure 524 00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:56,880 we're all good with either one so do you have a preference no I don't no I guess 525 00:48:53,359 --> 00:49:00,280 I don't I was looking for you guys sometimes you you just can't see the 526 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:05,079 force for the trees and I tried to be objective um in the numbers and I know 527 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:09,200 you every year when we ow less that's another reason that's one of the reasons 528 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:13,280 that I think it keeps going up but also everything is just going up you know so 529 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,440 but um 530 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:23,160 I all right well I I'll make a motion for uh that we sell the candles at 550 531 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:31,640 PS second 550 okay Mo Brian a second 532 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:38,520 seller T candles at U 550 PS is that 533 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,520 uh have a motion for the 534 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:48,280 purchas make well I guess we do do need a motion to purchas for 535 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:55,880 $13 8960 I'll change my motion to uh uh make 536 00:49:52,400 --> 00:50:02,200 motion to purchase 10 cases of tiki candles at cost not to exceed 537 00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:08,200 $1,389 60 from English Gardens and that we have a sell price on the candles of 538 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,200 $550 539 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:17,839 each second 540 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:29,400 Baran my do to First pels roll call your meeting yes Ki yes lebor 541 00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:29,400 no mcnut yes Newman yes O'Brien yes yeah 542 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:40,520 yes you know I think what I will do though is I think I will talk to um Bob 543 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:47,280 about the possibility of is he has solar candles you know for next year you know 544 00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:51,599 see what other options he may have you know so that's a good thought I think 545 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,680 it's getting to that point it's getting to that point it's getting to that point 546 00:50:53,640 --> 00:51:00,920 yeah I mean when I first started doing this from Joan I mean 547 00:50:58,359 --> 00:51:05,839 I we probably had I don't 25 cases I don't remember the top 548 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,760 of my head I had that information at home but I mean it's drastically reduced 549 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:15,079 yeah I remember my father-in-law's garage is full of PES in oh yeah your 550 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:19,119 son was selling him out on the boat it was yeah we run up and down in that 551 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:26,720 garage pulling cases out of it all the time sold a lot so they were only a buck 552 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:30,839 buck 50 a piece yeah yeah so thank you so Pam you'll follow up with 553 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:38,280 Mr Walker I will follow up with Mr Walker I'll copy you and Jennifer on my 554 00:51:32,839 --> 00:51:43,640 email and um I I'll follow up later with other thoughts I don't want to confuse 555 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:45,799 the two right now sure okay thank you thank 556 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:53,559 you Chief s okay got a pretty extensive packet with information in front of you 557 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:57,200 some pictures um you know when I met with these contractors I was just 558 00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:01,160 looking for something like looking for something basic something functional we 559 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,559 don't need High materials but we need something that's fresh that's clean 560 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:07,960 that's new and more importantly it's the separation of the two spaces you know I 561 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:12,319 that we were having issues before but you know it's it's nice to have the male 562 00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:16,359 and the female uh separation of spaces so you know we're not walking in on each 563 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:20,680 other and it's never been a problem but so um I think I think shpr really 564 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:25,240 understood what I was talking about you know the other two contractors were like 565 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,599 they were trying to see what their vision and show what their vision for 566 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:32,520 this place was for me and I'm like I just needed someone to understand what I 567 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:37,000 was looking for and keep it very simple and basic and so the money has been uh 568 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:43,599 budgeted for this been approved I just recommend that we go with serve pro um 569 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:47,760 after we spend this money for the um the locker room project we will still have 570 00:52:45,319 --> 00:52:51,920 money left over in the budget barring any major contingencies but I just think 571 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,520 it's important for us to just have this uplift uh a facelift uh give them a 572 00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:58,880 fresh start and I think that they deserve this and something they and let 573 00:52:56,799 --> 00:53:03,000 it you know take pride in cuz it if you ever been in the locker room it's kind 574 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:06,839 of messy and kind of dirty and and so um it's some things are outdated one of the 575 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:10,720 showers doesn't even work and there's there's not even any fresh uh any fresh 576 00:53:08,839 --> 00:53:14,720 ventilation in either one like in in these both of these B these bathrooms 577 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:18,920 here the fans work but it just just goes in above the space it doesn't actually 578 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:23,319 go outside anywhere so um the the initial quote was a little 579 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,839 bit cheaper than we noticed that they hadn't put in there for the ventilation 580 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,440 so we're going to have ventilations in both of the shower 581 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:33,040 in the men's and the women's locker room so I just recommend going with um with 582 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:36,960 Ser Pro because they really understood uh what we were looking for make motion 583 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:42,000 we go with your recommendation of ser Pro uh the amount of 24 or 584 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,039 [Music] 585 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:55,160 2,459 by by roll call or discussion first 586 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:59,440 discussion here quick question they they are going to run events 587 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,119 absolutely yes sir yes they just into Dave Gill's 588 00:54:02,839 --> 00:54:09,680 office keep them warm the winter got steam s up there what's the plan for 589 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,720 when construction's going on in there for the officers and where are they 590 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,240 going to we are going to be moving all of our lockers into this area here okay 591 00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:20,280 and this locker room is plenty big enough until um it's going to take them 592 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:25,359 four to five weeks once they start demolition but um they're they're ready 593 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:31,520 to get going on it whenever we're right I like their quote I thought it 594 00:54:27,319 --> 00:54:31,520 was nicely detailed and easy to 595 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:39,880 follow any other discussion a motion second all right 596 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:50,559 roll call please yes yes Nei yes labor yes MC yes yes o 597 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,559 yes thank 598 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:56,640 you de crossbow Shield 599 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:04,040 Council this is a formal acceptance of a proposal that we received from Blue 600 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:07,599 Cross Blue Shield of Michigan for renewal of The Village's healthc care 601 00:55:06,359 --> 00:55:12,440 coverage for its employees um for the upcoming fiscal 602 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:18,079 year actually starting as of February 1st of this month as indicated in my 603 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:25,480 memo the uh percentage increase over the premium for our expiring coverage was 604 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:32,720 13.27% we had hoped it would be less um but um it could be more than it is um as 605 00:55:30,359 --> 00:55:38,599 I indicated in the memo um Herman kingle offer our benefits rep explained to me 606 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:45,280 that essentially this increas negates the savings that we realized when we 607 00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:52,160 switched from the uh Blue Cross HMO the bcn P last year so but keeping that in 608 00:55:49,799 --> 00:55:58,839 mind though too if we had stayed with the HMO last year then the increase this 609 00:55:55,240 --> 00:56:01,640 year would be significantly more so um I talked a little bit with Herman about 610 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:06,880 the idea of possibly going out and getting other 611 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:14,720 quotes again you recall that we did that last year and the change that we made to 612 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:19,480 uh the the bcn HMO was by far the best proposal that we received and based upon 613 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:23,799 what he has seen from other clients and in other markets he just didn't think it 614 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:28,079 would be worth it to go back out again for quotes again this quickly are you 615 00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:33,000 happy with they would you get what you're getting from them quality of care 616 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:37,559 I mean we had some hiccups in terms of the transition on originally but that's 617 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:44,400 always going to happen but um I mean I think by and large um the employees seem 618 00:56:40,359 --> 00:56:49,599 to be very happy I mean if you measure um how happy people are based upon the 619 00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:55,359 number of complaints we really don't get many complaints so you I think this is 620 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:58,960 this is the best that we can do for our employees at this point point in time 621 00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:02,920 and as we go forward we'll continue to look at other options when we think it's 622 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:09,920 appropriate I'll make a motion that we accept the resolution as presented 623 00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:17,400 second Mo M second by jini let's have a roll call please Ki 624 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:27,280 yes lebor yes mcnut yes Newman yes O'Brien yes du yes your meeting yes 625 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:31,200 okay 13.27% increase all right second call the public um an 626 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:36,960 opportunity for citizens to address the council regarding any Village 627 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:40,880 business have a motion to open we'll make a motion to open with the caveat I 628 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,359 would like to know when the year in which this 629 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:50,920 happened second Mr just a second we haven't 630 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:56,880 opened up yet I'm sorry we haven't opened up yet so just can you turn up 631 00:57:54,200 --> 00:58:05,920 the volume on this thing I can't hear you guys without hear okay I don't have 632 00:58:00,839 --> 00:58:05,920 no idea how to do that I think our av 633 00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:18,000 gu motion by du second Newman thank you again with the caveat that we understand 634 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,000 what year this actually took 635 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:33,920 place all right we we have a motion by Mr Duff and uh second by Mr Newman with 636 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:38,839 um the caveat was um when presentation is done just what year it took place 637 00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:46,160 that's what the request is uh the request was to just let Council know 638 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:51,319 what year um this all took place for U that you're presenting that's what 639 00:58:48,880 --> 00:59:00,720 council would like all right all in favor post thank you m okay when the 640 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:07,359 gentleman from um water manager board came in here and gave you folks analysis 641 00:59:03,319 --> 00:59:12,720 of the boat in the journey I was surprised as to how many new boats we 642 00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:18,960 got on the lake and knowing what the capacity of 643 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:23,599 the lake is I did some research 644 00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:28,599 and does anybody know where we're getting all these extra boats 645 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:35,000 that L okay well let's go and check see where 646 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,000 they're coming 647 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,599 from hold 648 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:58,200 on this is the law the repairing law if anybody wants to to read it I have a 649 00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:04,359 back for all of you and basically it's the right the reping holder that's the 650 01:00:01,319 --> 01:00:08,000 water Frontage and exposed bottom okay so in other words if somebody's going to 651 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:13,520 have a boat in this Lake they got to have repairing rights now you can still 652 01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:20,039 have Waterfront and not have repairing right as I found out now so we got to 653 01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:27,960 find out who's putting boats in that don't have repairing rights okay so then 654 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,960 I started looking around 655 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,240 the U 656 01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:46,000 what here's the bar right here these are all illegal 657 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:52,760 boats they got I noticed from beq there was a violation to have those boats 658 01:00:49,640 --> 01:01:00,920 there the park orders also notified 659 01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:08,359 the police chief and the administrator and it didn't do anything about 660 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,359 it so they're coming from the 661 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:18,559 park here's another one here's a marina they built does anybody recognize this 662 01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:22,440 does anybody have a boat there the reason being is they don't 663 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:28,680 have repairing rights in order to have to put your boat 664 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:34,880 here there's about 40 some people or 30 or something like that that they have to 665 01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:40,640 give you 100% of their consent to put a boat there if you can't get it 100% you 666 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:47,200 can't put a boat there but we're popping little marinos 667 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:52,920 boats all over the place where they do not 668 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:58,079 belong now the thing about it is that does anybody know how many acres is 669 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:06,240 takes to have a safe Lake per boat you want give me a 670 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:13,559 guess is it three is it 10 or what okay I just ask three acres per 671 01:02:08,839 --> 01:02:18,119 boat we're R three acres per boat a safe lake is around 8 672 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:22,279 Acres part of our problem is we're are a narrow 673 01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:29,960 Lake okay for an example in front of my house is 674 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:37,000 700 uh wide there you got to take a you know 100 ft on each side so you're 675 01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:44,880 down to uh 500 now you got if you put a dot or or a 676 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:51,400 DOT on another top of that then you're going to lower them so in other words 677 01:02:47,319 --> 01:02:56,680 you only have about 350 ft of the lake on one side should go down and 350 ft on 678 01:02:54,480 --> 01:03:02,279 the other side we're going to have a very big accident 679 01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:07,160 coming I've had taken photos not photos but videos of what's going on out there 680 01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:11,839 and I invite any one of you folks to come on Saturday and Sunday and set them 681 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:17,160 on patio and see what's going on the council the police department has an 682 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:23,440 obligation to make this um Lake 683 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:29,240 save you're right when you asked about all those votes think there all they 684 01:03:26,359 --> 01:03:32,839 have to do is contact the police they'll find out who owns the land underneath 685 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:37,240 and it can make those people take that anchor 686 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:42,160 up but a lot of people don't know that or they're they're 687 01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:48,960 lost so let me show you what I did and you can do it take it read it if you 688 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,960 folks are interested in having 689 01:03:59,799 --> 01:04:02,000 thank 690 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:12,319 you thank you these are the ref Maring laws if you have any if you have any 691 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:16,570 questions I'd like to have a dating I don't care I do it you get a hold of the 692 01:04:15,279 --> 01:04:21,480 law [Music] 693 01:04:19,319 --> 01:04:27,200 or educate the council the water 694 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:32,160 measurement board and your Police Department I asked the police uh CH to 695 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,920 come over the house that he's in the neighborhood he stopped we spent an hour 696 01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:41,640 together and I appreciate that chief that was helpful and then I thought when 697 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:46,039 I got this package together um I would come over to the 698 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:51,079 office and I spent another hour with him going through this whole package to show 699 01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:55,839 them what the fact is all about point of order Mr President time has expired 700 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,160 thank you Mr 701 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,440 leor one more 702 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:20,279 time uh I'll start off with I was heartened 703 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:25,720 tonight by uh your 704 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:29,440 uh standing up for the administrative people that 705 01:05:27,319 --> 01:05:37,799 was that was beautiful um and everybody falling in 706 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:40,839 with it that that is what this council is 707 01:05:38,799 --> 01:05:47,400 about and that that's what I wanted to say last month 708 01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:55,119 when a new person came on and an almost new person came back but but you guys 709 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,119 are charged 710 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,920 you 711 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:06,480 can't your opinion 712 01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:14,359 matters but you've got to think of the greater good and 713 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:19,039 that's that's what this Council should be all about should have been all about 714 01:06:16,839 --> 01:06:27,559 for years and years and years uh my my father bless his heart he 715 01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:35,440 used to say why do you do the right thing and he if he got no answer he'd 716 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:41,359 say because it's the right thing to do he said it might not be the easy 717 01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:47,079 thing but it's the right thing to do and that's what you guys did tonight that 718 01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:52,839 was I I enjoyed sitting there watching that that's that's what you did a few 719 01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:56,400 months ago when I brought up the uh vulgarity that came from the council 720 01:06:54,880 --> 01:07:04,240 table and you actually recognized it moted to 721 01:07:00,279 --> 01:07:13,000 change it that's but that's that's what you guys need to do is don't do the easy 722 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:18,400 thing I I know I keep harping on the the garbage 723 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:25,680 tax that was the easy thing to do it wasn't put to the people it was just 724 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:32,440 done and that's not what you're he here to do you're here to represent the 725 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:39,720 people not yourselves and and it that is a I I know 726 01:07:37,319 --> 01:07:45,079 it's a hard line to walk uh I I am not I am not a big 727 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:51,880 believer in sewers but when I was on 728 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:57,000 Council I was actually the one that put forth the idea 729 01:07:53,640 --> 01:08:03,319 of the Lakeside people doing a petition the people that needed 730 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:11,799 sewers doing a petition I didn't want them 731 01:08:08,359 --> 01:08:17,839 but that's what you do you got to do what's right there there's we we've got 732 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:24,279 we've got one bedroom houses in this Village we've got six bedroom houses in 733 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:31,080 this Village there there is there is no cookie cutter that Works in every 734 01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:36,679 situation throughout this Village there just 735 01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:42,319 isn't we've got people that work at flipping burgers as you put it earlier 736 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,319 and we've got people who are 737 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:52,520 Executives this is an Eclectic Village and you guys need to sometimes 738 01:08:50,279 --> 01:09:02,000 dig in and represent everybody not just just small 739 01:08:56,679 --> 01:09:06,520 groups not just what you think but everybody and uh 740 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:13,159 I I appreciate I I've been away from Council 741 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:19,159 for a while on doctor's orders and uh since I've come back I 742 01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:27,120 have actually appreciated what you folks have 743 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:32,040 done uh not everything but uh I would say by and 744 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:39,560 large you you guys are definitely on the right track so thank you and 745 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:43,279 uh have a good night than 746 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:54,120 than doesn't look like we have any other 747 01:09:54,320 --> 01:10:00,800 second all in favor I oppos motion 748 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:10,679 passes on to have close session motion to move into close session immediately 749 01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:15,520 after agenda item 17 second motion by D second by Brian to move in close session 750 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:20,719 after agenda item 17 we don't need roll call that yes we 751 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,719 do we do roll 752 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,320 call yes your meing yes has 753 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:39,040 yesi I'm sorry yes yes leor yes MCN yes human yes O'Brien 754 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:49,800 yes okay the topics for our February 26 2025 work session Village 755 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:57,239 goals Council I guess the action that we're asking is to actually go ahead and 756 01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:02,199 normally set the work session we normally forego but I would ask that we 757 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:08,120 have the work session um again as in Prior years we' use the meeting to talk 758 01:11:04,679 --> 01:11:10,840 about goals and objectives um the format that I would atttend to follow is the 759 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:15,239 one we've used the last couple years where I put together a list of talking 760 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:19,880 points based upon the points that we had discussed the year before showing 761 01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:24,960 whether or not we've made progress on those and if we've made progress on 762 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:30,239 those and then in addition any other points of discussion that I think are 763 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:33,800 appropriate or I would would um would ask that uh if there are other points of 764 01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:37,320 discussion that you think should be added as member of council things that 765 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:43,400 you think that we need to be talking about to let me know um my intention 766 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:47,960 would be to have a list of talking points that I would send out to 767 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:53,400 everybody in final form a week from Friday so between now and then if there 768 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:58,239 are things that you think we should be discussing um that like me know and 769 01:11:55,719 --> 01:12:05,080 we'll add those to the list I shared a draft of the list with Mr mcnut on 770 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:09,560 Friday afternoon um and uh we're already about a page and a half two pages long I 771 01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:16,080 think all together so motion to set February 26 work 772 01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:21,760 session second motion by second by 773 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:25,920 Newman our work session for the 26th in favor 774 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,800 all right1 and and the thinking being too 775 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:36,560 that the things we talk about the things that there appears to be consensus on as 776 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:40,880 to what council thinks are important or priorities going forward those are the 777 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:45,440 things that Miss Hansen and I will work with in terms of putting the budget 778 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:50,719 together for the upcoming fiscal year and again at the risk of of sound like a 779 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:54,360 broken record but the time frame is with the budget then we'll we'll get to work 780 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:58,360 on there right away I know Jennifer's already started working on it but after 781 01:12:56,679 --> 01:13:01,560 the work session we'll roll up our sleeves and start to work a little bit 782 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:07,199 harder we'll get the department heads involved in the process um and then the 783 01:13:04,639 --> 01:13:13,400 goal would be for us to have a draft of an agenda that we can share with you in 784 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:20,080 May uh with with the ultimate goal of having the budget in final form that you 785 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,080 can approve at your regular meeting in 786 01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:29,400 June but again anything you want to talk about on the 26th uh let me know within 787 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,400 in the next week or so and we'll make it 788 01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:38,480 so no other pending business no other pending 789 01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:43,880 business Chief okay well I can personally attest 790 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:49,760 to the fact still being identifying myself as the new guy the importance of 791 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:53,159 of Tabitha and Paige and and Jen knows and D or I I'm in there almost every day 792 01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:58,880 tab where where do I find this where do I get this from and it's I never heard I 793 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:01,760 don't know it's either always right here or she gets up and she pulls some binder 794 01:14:00,639 --> 01:14:05,800 out there that looks like I got her in her by a truck and she's look producing 795 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:09,280 she knows they know exactly where everything's at in the thing is so 796 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:12,480 important and like like Dave said it just makes my life so much easier so I 797 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,280 appreciate them they are worth their weight and gold and so I was happy to 798 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,920 see that didn't know that was going to be on the the agenda tonight but super 799 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:23,960 pleased I love working with those two ladies up front so very good oh you guys 800 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:28,520 saw the letter um for officer Keller in the packet there just another example of 801 01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:31,480 uh just an outstanding um contact that we have with our citizens and how 802 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:35,239 important it is and I love hearing that feedback uh right now we're just kind of 803 01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:39,639 in the thick of doing these uh these yearly these qualified trainings that we 804 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:43,239 need in order to receive funds um from the state we have to have certain types 805 01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:45,760 of training and we're we're just so thick in it right now so we're sending a 806 01:14:44,639 --> 01:14:49,880 lot of people to training different things getting those requirements so in 807 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:53,800 order to get receive certain funding from the state we have to attend certain 808 01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:58,239 requirements certain types of training and we are doing that right now so uh 809 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,760 we're just about ready for our lean on it Sergeant morasco there he's kind of 810 01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:04,400 heading that up and uh it seems like the last we're just talking about this today 811 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:09,120 the last month it's like it's been nonstop like work there's so much more 812 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:13,360 requirements uh more security measures more people to track down more forms to 813 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:16,560 track down and bringing On Our IT company and so that has been a heck of a 814 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:21,960 project and we're looking forward to getting that over with on February 26th 815 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:26,360 so uh and my final thing is snow uh stay off the streets please don't park on 816 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:33,360 there we uh help our DPW clear that out as quickly as possible and that's all I 817 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:39,560 have for you Mr President thank you good thank you um uh the 14th is our 818 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:47,600 last day for paying taxes and um um the 28th of this month 819 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:53,040 is the the DRFT that last day the day after March 1st is when they're turned 820 01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:58,960 over to the county so um we have sent letters to anyone that hasn't their 821 01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:03,920 taxes may have forgotten or or whatever and then um we're calling we're actually 822 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:09,960 making phone calls now this week and next week um calling people saying were 823 01:16:07,719 --> 01:16:15,120 you aware of this and you know cuz you know we do have some we have some 824 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:18,960 seniors in the uh Village that um some of them are getting you know have 825 01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:22,239 different issues they actually need a child to do stuff for them so we're 826 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:28,080 doing our us to get to the bottom of it for all these people so that their taxes 827 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:32,679 don't get turned over to the county so um and then we're gearing up for um the 828 01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:38,840 new budget and so we're starting all that process and um we're looking in 829 01:16:35,639 --> 01:16:47,520 good position for that and and I think that's it um happy Valentine's 830 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:50,440 Day and um and um look forward to seeing you guys next 831 01:16:52,159 --> 01:17:00,360 well Mr thank you Mr President uh first um all 832 01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:05,520 of you observant people here up at the council table will note that we have a 833 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:11,280 new face at the table over sitting with uh Tabitha at the recording secretary's 834 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:16,280 table uh Vicky roie who is a village resident longtime Village resident um 835 01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:21,000 has graciously agreed to step up and serve as our new recording secretary so 836 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:24,880 Vicki's going to be a familiar face we're going to break her in by fire at 837 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:28,360 our work session in a couple weeks she'll be flying on her own that 838 01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:34,000 particular night she'll also be covering the zoning board of appeals meetings too 839 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:39,520 so um again glad to have Vicki with us I I'm confident that she's going to do a 840 01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:39,520 good job for us thank you nice to meet 841 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:46,719 you um in going through the packet tonight some of you may have noticed 842 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:51,320 there was no report from our code enforcement officer this month he's been 843 01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:55,440 out sick uh for a little over a week right now so we didn't have a report but 844 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:59,960 we'll have um the the report for the month of January and along with the 845 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:05,920 report for February in the packet in March so 846 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:11,040 um just a reminder to everyone this coming Monday is President's Day which 847 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:15,760 we do recognize as a holiday here in the village The Village Hall will be closed 848 01:18:13,639 --> 01:18:20,840 um so we will not be here Police Department of course will be working um 849 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:25,880 but the rest of us will not um trash pickup recycling pickup everything that 850 01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:30,560 uh priority does that will not be affected so we will have trash and 851 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:35,080 recycling pickup as normal on Monday that will not be affected but the 852 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:41,000 Village Hall will be closed so the only other comment I would make is uh to pick 853 01:18:37,719 --> 01:18:44,840 up on the chief's comment um yeah please keep your cars off the routes um in 854 01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:50,520 terms of parking make it easier for the DPW to do your jobs and everybody um 855 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:54,239 here in the the hill CH tonight be careful going home tonight it's going to 856 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:59,719 be slippery so thank you there's an ordinance for one months right that's 857 01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:04,800 correct y if your car is parked on the street overnight you will be ticketed or 858 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:08,679 in or tow as I understand correct we try not to tow looking for compliance if we 859 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:14,480 have to wake you up it's if it's that important then we will but we have 860 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,480 people like to write citations in like 861 01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:28,560 so that's all I got all I got that's all all right Council comments start 862 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:33,199 jimy uh welcome Vicki to enjoy some very entertaining 863 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:37,199 and sometimes very boring conversations so that interesting uh big 864 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:40,199 congratulations to Fred Meisner on winning our citizen of the year I've 865 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:44,120 worked with Fred on a lot of different things not just veterans committee and 866 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,719 I've talked to other people about him and they all say the same things about 867 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:51,480 him and it's nothing negative ever it's always just complimenting him and 868 01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:56,000 grateful of his presence in their community and all the things he's done 869 01:19:53,360 --> 01:20:00,639 in his HOA and and for the village as a whole so I'm really happy to see him get 870 01:19:58,199 --> 01:20:05,480 this much deserved honor and also I'd like to congratulate uh John Ellsworth 871 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:10,239 who the Lakes Area Chamber of Commerce 2024 first responder of the year I had 872 01:20:08,639 --> 01:20:13,520 the pleasure of attending the U their annual black and white ball where John 873 01:20:11,639 --> 01:20:18,000 was the winner of that and uh he even wore a tux which is pretty neat to see 874 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:22,360 talk about change of uniform kind of thing but uh it was a very well-deserved 875 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:25,239 honor for John and it was good to see him he was definitely looking very 876 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,880 relaxed and if anybody saw his photo on Facebook 877 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:33,120 he's in Florida he's definitely doing well yes and yeah stay safe tonight 878 01:20:31,639 --> 01:20:36,080 everybody thank you to our DPW is going to be out there and our officers were 879 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:39,719 going to be out there despite the weather and hopefully it'll be a quiet 880 01:20:37,639 --> 01:20:45,280 night for everybody better myself ditto yep uh 881 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:50,159 congratulations to Fred welcome Vicki and I until uh our next meeting or until 882 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:56,639 I see you again I hope you all have a wonderful uh month and uh stay blessed 883 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:03,719 welcome good to see you thanks for stepping up and taking on the role 884 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:08,320 congratulations again Fred working this is another year and uh did some good 885 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:14,920 work tonight so really happy about her her outcome so thank 886 01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:19,159 you um I attended the newly elected officials training with the MML league 887 01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:22,360 on January 23rd Mike was in attendance as well um thought it was a really great 888 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:26,159 event appreciated the opportunity to be there Pam and I uh joined the layup 889 01:21:24,639 --> 01:21:29,719 board meeting today another great meeting and um just in awe of all the 890 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:33,159 work that they do for our community so it's definitely well worth our time 891 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:39,440 being there and being the ex to that board and then finally um well welcome 892 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:43,480 to Vicki and then finally um Friday February 14th one of our elementary 893 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:46,840 schools Mary Helen guest is collecting returnable cans to support the 894 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:50,159 rebuilding of a little food pantry that sits outside the school so anyone that 895 01:21:48,679 --> 01:21:53,600 has any returnable cans maybe from the Super Bowl laying around if you want to 896 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:56,560 drop it off out front Mary Helen guest it would go to a great cost 897 01:21:55,719 --> 01:22:03,800 thank you returnable cans you're talking about 898 01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:07,800 pop cans not glass or glass okay yeah anything with that 10 899 01:22:05,639 --> 01:22:13,920 cent okay uh I was going to mention uh the 900 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:20,600 Leia also um U mark your calendar so far this year 901 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:28,639 the date is October 7th for the taste of the leg fundraiser Edward par Edward 902 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:33,000 October 7th um thank you all for the direction on the tiki candles uh it was 903 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:41,040 good conversation I really appreciate that welcome Vicki I hope you have a 904 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:48,000 good time with us um and um welcome back from vacation thank you much and 905 01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:53,280 uh I I am so excited about the woman's locker room I had just she was here just 906 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:57,920 before the meeting and I knocked on the door because she had walked in I said 907 01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:04,239 can I see because the pictures are good but it's different being in the physical 908 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:09,120 surroundings you know so man that's way overdone and that shower she saids has 909 01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:13,040 not worked in years that's pretty sad that's pretty sad so I'm really really 910 01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:16,360 happy that we're finally doing something and bringing up to speed and that the 911 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:20,120 showers will work I asked her I said if it would work would you use them she 912 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:26,440 says oh yeah yeah so anyway so happy Valentine's Day 913 01:23:23,239 --> 01:23:26,440 everybody and we'll see you in Che week 914 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:33,960 weeks um congratulations uh Fred C year thank you're 915 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:42,560 welcome and uh Happy Valentine's Day but everybody be safe with the ice um it's 916 01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:47,080 been warm it's been cold so um you know just be 917 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,679 cautious make 918 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,440 close move up close 919 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,840 we already 920 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,719 that to move 921 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:28,159 upstairs so exciting it's a 922 01:24:25,159 --> 01:24:28,159 they