1 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,559 just not everyone. Wouldn't they still be scoring from last year until the new? 2 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,040 » Yeah. >> Right. So, just just Yeah. Evan would be 3 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:10,080 the only one there who's gonna Evan, you're going to just sit tight. 4 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:13,680 » You won't say present. Mr. Sharer 5 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,119 » here. Counciloman Marsh >> here. 6 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:18,400 » Mr. Barbara >> here. 7 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,759 » Vice Chairman Dwan >> here. 8 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,640 » Mr. Calfman >> here. 9 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,640 » Mr. Panza >> here. 10 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,560 » Chairman Belini >> here. 11 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:34,880 » Uh and then we have two resolutions for approval. 300 Chestnut Road, Ridge Road. 12 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,520 That's the BMW one. I don't know if anyone got a chance to take a look at 13 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:45,640 their resolutions, but if they had any comments on it. Um and we have come to 14 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,640 four five 15 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:51,680 that's five and six. >> Yeah. 16 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,799 » Right. So can we get a motion for 300 chest coverage? 17 00:01:52,399 --> 00:01:59,680 » Motion. >> Yeah. The only thing I I would say on 18 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:06,399 that is I was told that there is a uh a redevelopment agreement between the barn 19 00:02:03,119 --> 00:02:12,160 right and and the redeveloper. Um, >> we're going to make this subject to 20 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:17,840 » Yes, I would I would just make that the addition to the resolution subject to 21 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:23,440 execution of that redeveloper agreement. I understand there was one that's either 22 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:29,920 been signed or circulating. I think your uh redevelopment attorney uh you know 23 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:33,760 worked on that reminds you but u yeah I think Wendy took care of that right. All 24 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:38,640 right. So just I I don't know if it's executed yet by the landowner, but we're 25 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,319 just going to make the resolution subjective. So 26 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:46,000 » Okay. >> All right. So we can get a motion to 27 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:48,959 pass the resolution as amended uh to include the agreement. 28 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:53,680 » Motion to pass as amended. >> Second. 29 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,959 » Roll call. >> Mr. Robert, what are these changes? 30 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,360 » What changes? >> Well, what do they want to change? 31 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:04,319 » What do you mean? >> All right. in the resolution. 32 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,680 » No, no changes to the resolution. Just adding the developers agreement that is 33 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:12,920 counterexecuted by the mayor and council. 34 00:03:08,959 --> 00:03:12,920 » That's the change that we're adding. 35 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:19,040 » Yes. Subject to execution. That's an agree. It may have already been 36 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:24,000 executed. I just couldn't confirm it for this meeting. U developer agreement with 37 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:28,560 the municipality. The mayor and council negotiated with the land owner. So, 38 00:03:26,959 --> 00:03:33,799 we're going to make this resolution subject to that also being executed. 39 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,200 » Motion second. >> Second. 40 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:41,120 » Mr. Barb, >> yes. 41 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,480 » Councilwoman Marsh. >> Yes. 42 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,760 » Mr. Panto. >> Yes. 43 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:45,120 » Mr. Calfman. >> Yes. 44 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,480 » Vice Chairman Dwan. >> Yes. 45 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:52,640 » Chairman Billy. >> Yes. 46 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:53,680 » And then the next is 25 prospects. Rick 47 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:58,799 » Cliff. >> That's the man. 48 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:04,000 I don't think there's any >> no chance in that. I received an email 49 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:09,599 from the attorneys for the applicant the job 50 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:14,080 the question was injured. So let's do it as 51 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:20,639 and Nikki you are absent on this right. 52 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,960 » So can we get a motion? >> Motion please second. 53 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,320 » Mr. Barbara. Yes, >> Mr. Coffman. 54 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,919 » Yes, >> Mr. Panzo. 55 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,639 » Yes, >> Vice Chairman. I'm sorry, Vice Chairman 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Dwan. >> Yes, 57 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:36,960 » Chairman Breen. >> Yes. 58 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:42,080 » And five is adequate, right? >> And next, we have our annual report, 59 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:47,440 which we're going to submit to the mayor council. 60 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:51,680 There's my report. Uh, this year I think we handled 18 applications if I'm not 61 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,280 mistaken. um 62 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:59,120 » couple of small ones, but mainly, you know, um some decent sized ones. So, I 63 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:03,199 think we did a great job this year. I don't know if anyone has any comments or 64 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:07,039 or any changes that they want to make to it or any inconsistencies or 65 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:11,919 inaccuracies, but I think this is good to submit to the mayor and council for 66 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:13,360 our annual report. >> Agreed. 67 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:19,120 » Motion. >> Yeah. Before you do that, um it's also 68 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:22,400 if after having heard all these applications, if the board has any 69 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:28,720 recommendations, mayor council, uh I don't know that you 70 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:35,039 have any or if any are needed, but if you do, this would be the time to do it. 71 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:42,639 Uh I did notice some corrections, but that's okay. Uh 72 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:44,880 » we uh the second one for 10 ster uh is swimming pool should be in the 73 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:50,880 rear >> in the rear of the property. 74 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:56,840 » Um and if constructed the improved it should be impervious coverage will be 75 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,840 36.2%. 76 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,280 And on the next page 77 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:10,639 » rely road 78 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:16,880 second sentence a variance more it should be 7.3 ft 79 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:22,400 for requested no variance or 11.4t authority. It's also requested for the 80 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:27,759 patio on uh 11 and overdrive. It's a gross 81 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:37,600 application. Then the second line we're 15% is the it 82 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:45,759 should be the limit. The limit is 15%. U and also after we're 30% is required 30% 83 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:55,720 is the limit. And then on the uh 84 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:55,720 next page 15 road Anthony larger gross 85 00:06:56,479 --> 00:07:03,520 actually I would just add with that there was subdivision approval for that 86 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:06,520 that was case there was the sliver if we remember 87 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:17,160 so that was subdivision minor subdivision 88 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:17,160 u and then the last one uh 300 89 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:25,319 compos second sentence the applicant is proposing multif family 90 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,960 » it 91 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:39,039 need a motion to send us >> I can't 92 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:42,360 » all in favor >> as amended 93 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,479 minutes. December 16th, 2025. 94 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:03,280 » Any changes? Sarah, >> no. 95 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,160 » Just one one built real quick. >> Go ahead. 96 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,160 » So much better to hear than the other place. I'm so glad we moved it here. 97 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,840 » Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't know if merit council needs to know that but compared 98 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,960 to the senior center this is just I can hear people. 99 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:17,039 » Yeah. >> So it was so bad over there. 100 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:24,240 » Yeah. >> I know it was bigger but it was so bad. 101 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:27,440 » So thank you. You're welcome. >> Um all right. So we gave it motion for 102 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,639 the minutes. >> Motion 103 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:34,800 » second. >> No. 104 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:40,080 All in favor. >> Okay. So that's 105 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:43,080 nice. Now we could do our swearing. >> Okay. 106 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,839 » I'll do it together. >> Uh, is Jared via Zoom or no? 107 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,240 » Yes, he is. >> Jared, 108 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:54,640 » can you hear me? >> Can Can we hear and see you or not? 109 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,000 » Can you hear me? >> I can hear you. Yeah. 110 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:02,240 » Oh, I can hear me, too. >> Okay, good. 111 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:06,240 » Nice when technology works. >> Um, how do you want to do this? You want 112 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:13,760 us Walter read these or we just did it last time? It's 113 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:17,519 » we can have money. I think >> actually 114 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:25,279 remember years ago one of club members suggested club rather than asking 115 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,760 the members to read. Okay. They just read the oath. 116 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,320 » Okay. Perfect. >> Uh Jared, you you have a copy of the 117 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,440 oath in front of you? >> I do. 118 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:41,839 » Okay. We're all going to mumble on top of each other. 119 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:45,839 » All right. Uh Evan, you have a copy? >> I do. 120 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:50,160 » Okay, perfect. So, here we go. I Grotto Devenian do solemnly swear that I will 121 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,880 support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the Save, 122 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:59,680 that I will bear true faith and allegiance to Sim and to the governments 123 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,839 established in the United States and in this state under the authority of the 124 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:10,560 people and that I will faithfully, and partially, and justly perform all duties 125 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:15,040 as a member of the land use board according to the best of my abilities. 126 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:19,440 So help me. Jared, I think you're just going to need 127 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:22,399 someone to notoriize yours. >> By burrow hall as soon 128 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,800 » I think they can do it in Bur Hall if you want to bring it here or if you have 129 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:29,560 someone. >> Yeah, I'll bring it by Burough Hall as 130 00:10:26,079 --> 00:10:29,560 soon as I get back. 131 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:48,560 » Anyways, all right. Can we get those passed down? 132 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:53,079 Welcome aboard Evan. Um everyone Evan leaz 133 00:10:50,079 --> 00:10:53,079 Lazarus. 134 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:57,040 » Welcome to the board. >> Thank you. 135 00:10:55,279 --> 00:11:00,399 » We are board. >> Okay. So then we have election of 136 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:04,880 officers. >> You want to do 137 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:08,480 » we want do we want to make a motion for officers? You guys happy with how 138 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:13,200 things ran last year with >> motion to keep the officer the same? 139 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Okay. So, we've got a motion for chairman to be corini vice chairman uh 140 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Sanjie >> second. 141 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:23,360 » Second. >> Yep. Third and fourth. 142 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,240 » All in favor? >> I 143 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:29,279 done. >> Great job. 144 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:33,200 » And board appointments. What we did is one 145 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:36,000 » one resolution. I mean one. It's not a resolution. It's just a motion. 146 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,120 » Yeah, we have to do more. >> Okay. Okay. So, I'm just going to read 147 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,200 off >> unless anybody wants to 148 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:45,519 » um do you So, just so everyone knows, our attorney, uh Sal Princiato, after 149 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,920 many years on the board, many years in the council, many years in town, is 150 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:53,519 going to be retiring this year. Um do you want to say a few words? 151 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:57,120 » I can if you >> I wouldn't mind. 152 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:03,920 » You've never been short on words. >> Uh I'll quote a former mayor, uh Mayor 153 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:09,440 Ke Bernie Keeper. Uh some of you may be fooled at that meeting. Um but he always 154 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:13,680 said that that this board and actually the boards because it was zoning boards 155 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:19,440 and planning boards separately uh are very important boards. You uh perform a 156 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:25,440 very important function and you are the gatekeeper for the community and uh you 157 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:30,800 determine character and the look of the town. And I think this year is another 158 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:34,399 big example of it. 18 applications and even in the past years if you look 159 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:39,920 around and you see all the development and how the town is is changing, but I 160 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:45,519 uh I think you all do a terrific job. I can't say that I disagree with any of 161 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:50,160 the decisions that the board made and I will say that very very frequently an 162 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:56,560 applicant comes in here with an application. Uh and when they leave they 163 00:12:53,760 --> 00:13:00,079 have a better application approved than that would have been what she came in 164 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:04,639 with. So uh and that's due to the process and the board and questions and 165 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:11,360 also members of the public that very frequently uh raise important issues uh 166 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:16,720 and questions. But um it's uh it's been a pleasure working with all of you uh 167 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:22,639 and I do take an interest in the town as all of you do otherwise you wouldn't be 168 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:29,839 here but uh thank you for your support over all the years. Um it was 19 years 169 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,839 Well, we appreciate the service you've given to the town. 170 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:35,399 » Well done, sir. >> Thank you very much. 171 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:43,279 » So, we we've got a couple of um renewed and and some new. So, our board attorney 172 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:48,320 this year will be Gary Jenn Antonio. Our board engineer will be Anthony Koros. 173 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:52,560 Our planner this year will be David Tro. Our traffic consultant will be Brian 174 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Tendola from Neglia. Our uh board redevelopment planner will be Francis 175 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:02,399 Riner. And our board secretary will be Clarice now. 176 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:06,639 » Aqualina. My apologies. So if we can get a motion for those appointments. 177 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:08,880 » Second. >> All in favor? 178 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:12,160 » I. >> Thank you very much. Thanks. 179 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:17,839 » Pleasure. >> And we'll be reaching out to you for 180 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,320 » Mr. J Antonio want me to. 181 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,120 » Thank you. >> You want to take these back to my office 182 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,240 and put my stamp on them? >> We don't need stamps. 183 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,240 » Yeah. Okay, 184 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:31,079 » put ESQ. 185 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:44,959 » Yeah, >> I think this was closed. 186 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:48,440 » Sorry, I don't understand. >> That's not me. 187 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,760 » Story of my life. Yeah. 188 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Thank you. 189 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,560 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 190 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,639 Pleasure to meet you. Thank you. Um I don't know if did did 191 00:15:15,199 --> 00:15:23,680 everyone take a look at the meeting dates for 26? 192 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Any conflicts? 193 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,480 That's right. 194 00:15:37,839 --> 00:15:41,240 » Take it. >> Sorry. 195 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:53,279 » How many meetings total we had last year? 15. Uh I think we had two special 196 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,959 meetings. Was it two? >> Maybe three. 197 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:59,360 » Yeah. Thanks. >> Yeah. As I said, 198 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:04,759 » but from a a calendar, are there any conflicts that you guys see or can we 199 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,759 get the calendar? 200 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:18,199 » January 28th. >> We're like in the future. 201 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,199 » That was a 202 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:26,440 come back. >> Yeah, it's a nice pack of some sort. 203 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:26,440 Should be 204 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:33,800 » page page, 205 00:16:36,959 --> 00:16:41,480 » right? So, this obviously was the 27th. 206 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:48,560 Okay. As long as there's no conflicts with holidays that we're aware of. 207 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:53,839 So, can we get we get a motion to approve our calendar for 26? 208 00:16:52,560 --> 00:17:00,240 » All in favor? >> I 209 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:04,519 » Okay, Mr. Riner, I believe you are on the desk. 210 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:15,120 » So, we have the investigation to determine of an area in need um for 240 211 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:19,720 258 264 Broadway that Mr. Riner is going to give us a presentation on welcome. 212 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:25,760 » Okay, chairman, members of the board, thank 213 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:30,480 you for having me here this evening. I just wanted to take a second to 214 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:37,120 thank S for all the help over the years and 215 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:42,720 toutelage and and always uh reaching out and talking to me, making sure that I 216 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:47,039 knew what was going on uh and and being able to ask and answer any questions on 217 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,240 any upcoming meetings. So, I I really do appreciate everything you've done. It's 218 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:54,240 been a pleasure working with you. I'm going to miss working with you. Yeah, I 219 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:57,520 enjoyed working with you as as well and your responsiveness and and the job that 220 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:01,760 you did. >> Thank you. 221 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:11,919 » So, this evening I'm here to present a um investigation study for 240, 258, 264 222 00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:19,360 uh Broadway, which are block uh 26 2601 lots 15,6 and 17. You should all have uh 223 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:24,480 receive a copy of of this plan. I'm going to go through a brief presentation 224 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:31,080 uh and be able to answer any details if there are any questions regarding the 225 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,080 specifics. Um the 226 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:40,400 study was uh started through a resolution 25 uh-239 on September 15, 227 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:45,679 2025 where the uh mayor and council requested to uh conduct an investigation 228 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:50,799 without condemnation. Uh meaning that there was no um no availability or or 229 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:56,160 ability to condemn the property. It was without. So F planning uh prepared the 230 00:18:53,919 --> 00:19:00,000 investigation study which we're presenting tonight. We did uh multiple 231 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:04,960 site visits and visual inspections of the properties. Uh we reviewed the 232 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:10,640 zoning ordinance and master plan as well as as doing a photo inventory and taking 233 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:14,320 pictures of the of the property, the buildings and the interior of the 234 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,520 buildings uh which are all part of the report. 235 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,840 As a part of this process, the planning board determines if each property meets 236 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:26,640 statutory criteria and then provides recommendations uh to the to the uh 237 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:31,360 mayor and council and the governing body designates by resolution. It's important 238 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:35,360 to note so the board understands that if it's designated, if you do uh make a 239 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:39,919 recommendation to designate it, there's no change to the zoning. Uh the 240 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:44,799 designation does not allow new uses. It does not permit uses to um it it does 241 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:49,200 allow uh permitted uses to remain and continue to operate and it gives the 242 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:54,960 municipality uh greater control which is part of why mayor and councils move 243 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:59,840 forward with this type of study. Just in terms of overall understanding 244 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:05,280 of the three properties, all three properties have a significant grade 245 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:10,160 change uh of approximately 100 ft from the rear of the property moving forward 246 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:13,200 to Broadway. Uh the topography of all three sites make it difficult to be 247 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,840 developed without a redevelopment designation. Uh in our opinion, two of 248 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,919 the three properties are vacant and do not have any occupiable structures, 249 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:28,400 although they have those two properties have remnants of prior structures on 250 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:32,880 them. Those are laws 15 and 17. Two of the three properties um as I mentioned 251 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:37,039 have the structures of walls, driveways, stairs, columns and or a tennis court uh 252 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:41,280 which are all in a state of disrepair as will show in the photos. And all three 253 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:45,760 properties are located within what we would uh in what the state would deem as 254 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:52,320 within walking distance to the Woodcliff Lake train station of just under and 255 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:57,679 just over 1,000 ft. So there are 256 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,440 uh eight criteria that the state uh has in terms of being able to designate an 257 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,919 air a property for an area in need of redevelopment. They're listed here A 258 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:11,200 through H. Uh these are kind of summaries of what each one of them are. 259 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:15,120 We have uh highlighted uh and bolded the three that we're going to be using and 260 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:21,840 identifying tonight in in terms of in the report. They are C, D, and H. 261 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:27,200 Uh and then additionally, if if a property does not meet one of those 262 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:33,039 criteria, that property may be included in a in a designation if that property 263 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:37,600 is found to be necessary for the redevelopment of the area as a whole, 264 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:42,880 regardless of whether or not that property meets any one of the eight 265 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:47,360 statutory criteria. Criteria C, I won't read it, but this 266 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:51,520 basically talks about uh I won't read the whole thing into the record, but 267 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:55,520 it's in the document. Uh criteria C basically talks about unimproved vacant 268 00:21:53,440 --> 00:22:01,600 land that has remained uh for a period of of at least 10 years 269 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:06,159 and that um by the nature of topography or the soil is unlikely to be developed 270 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,320 through the instrumentality of private cabin. 271 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:14,799 Criteria D essentially represents buildings or improvements which are 272 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:19,919 dilapidated, obsolescence, uh overcrowded, have a faulty arrangement 273 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:24,159 of design, uh or lack of ventilation, light, sanitary facilities and that are 274 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,960 detrimental to the health, safety, morals or welfare of the community. It's 275 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:34,400 important to note in D that uh where the word or is and where the word and and 276 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:38,240 is. So or meaning uh that the improvements uh by reason of 277 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,440 dilapitation or obsolescence or overcrowding. It doesn't have to be all 278 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:47,520 of them. It only has to be one of them, but it does need to include health, 279 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:53,840 safety, uh or or moral welfare to the community that's detrimental. 280 00:22:49,679 --> 00:23:00,080 And H is is more of a smart growth um criteria and it basically talks about 281 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:05,039 being in close proximity to uh public transportation. So, uh, again, as I 282 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:10,080 mentioned, all these three properties are located within and just over and 283 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:14,559 just under 1,000 ft from the, um, from the train station. 284 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:19,840 When we do a a a redevelopment designation, we do them by individual 285 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:24,080 property, whereas a rehab designation is done by an area as a whole. So, it's 286 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,600 important for the board to be able to determine whether or not each one of 287 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:32,720 these properties by themselves meet the criteria. And if they feel one of them 288 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:36,159 doesn't, uh, then that then they can use that article 3, which says it's 289 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,240 necessary for the, uh, for the redevelopment as a whole. And I'll 290 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:46,400 explain how that works in in one of them. The first property we're looking 291 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:50,880 at is uh, block 2601, lot 15, which is the largest of the three properties 292 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:57,760 identified in the map on the right. Uh the existing zoning is R15. Property has 293 00:23:53,520 --> 00:24:01,760 been vacant uh since 2012. Uh and there are aerials that show when that when 294 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,840 that single family house was actually constructed and when it was torn down 295 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:11,120 and was demolished in 2012. So that entire piece of property is is vacant 296 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:15,120 and meets criteria C because it's been vacant for more than 10 years. And 297 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:20,320 because there is a significant grade change, both of those items are 298 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:25,440 identified as a part of criteria C. In addition, as I indicated, there are uh 299 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:30,799 remnants of walls, driveways uh that are in a state of disrepair. And these are 300 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:35,840 the images located within the report. Uh this is page 10 of the report. Uh and 301 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:41,039 goes through and shows how some of the areas show roads. figure or image five 302 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:48,080 on the bottom left shows the actual old driveway again that's falling apart. 303 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:53,440 You can see uh on image number eight and nine and 10 uh and 11 that is a 304 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:57,120 retaining wall at the right of way. There are weak holes through it. So 305 00:24:55,279 --> 00:25:02,320 there is drainage going directly from the property onto the public right 306 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:09,520 ofway. again um these these remnant walls and driveways are are not in any 307 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:14,720 condition um that uh is usable at the moment. So in addition uh the property 308 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:20,720 lacks cohesive development in terms of it being an oversized parcel versus uh 309 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:26,000 what is uh commonly the size of parcels for residential and an R15 zone. uh it's 310 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:31,679 located within walking distance of train station which meets criteria H and in 311 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,720 addition the the redevelopment of this property and the and the next step which 312 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,520 would be a redevelopment plan would advance the burough's fair share housing 313 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:45,279 obligation in that this property would would add to the need for u meeting the 314 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:51,600 burrow's fourth round housing obligation. So for those reasons we 315 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:58,400 believe that um lot 15 uh meets criteria CD and H 316 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:03,279 block 2601 lot 16 which is a small uh lot in the middle here. Uh we have 317 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:08,880 indicated that we believe this property meets criteria D and H. And and in 318 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:15,440 addition, we believe that if for some reason anybody doesn't believe that uh 319 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:21,440 lot 16 is uh meets those criteria, that property is clearly necessary for the 320 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:27,520 redevelopment of lots 15 and 17 because it is located centrally to the overall 321 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:32,880 area. So we believe that it meets both criteria, but also meets the article 3 322 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:38,640 in being necessary. It is a single family home on an undersized lot. It has 323 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:41,600 a significant grade change. There is uh for those of you who are aware of it, a 324 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:46,640 very dangerous parking condition due to the grade change. The driveway is off of 325 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:51,919 Broadway and then there are large retaining walls. So, a vehicle has to 326 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:55,679 pull in and out of that driveway at the gradeway and then walk up a set of 327 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,039 stairs to get to the house elevation. Now, 328 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,360 this is not uncommon for single family houses and single family neighborhoods 329 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:09,679 on single family neighborhood roads. It is, however, very uncommon on Broadway, 330 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:13,760 which is a large road of higher speeds. And so, in looking at single family 331 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,279 homes up and down Broadway, there was only one other property that I was able 332 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:21,919 to find on Broadway that was a single family home that had this condition. So 333 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:25,840 our position is that although it's it's common for a single family house to have 334 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:30,080 a car back up into a road, it is uncommon for it to do so on a road of 335 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:35,120 this size and of this speed. So we believe that backing out creates a 336 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:41,200 dangerous condition which is uh which is within the criteria D. Uh there is also 337 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:44,720 a deteriorated garage uh where the roof is falling apart. You can see some of 338 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:49,360 the pictures uh that I'm showing you here. Uh the driveway is located at 339 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,679 image three in the middle and image four in the middle. So you can see that those 340 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:58,480 are at the grade of Broadway requiring vehicles and unable to turn around. 341 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:06,880 Garage is deteriorated. Roof is falling apart. Uh, in addition, this property 342 00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:13,039 meets what um the the American um the planning association would say is in 343 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:20,559 need of um and represents a land improvement ratio lower than what uh is 344 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:28,320 common. So, so this is a 38:1 ratio, meaning that the the home value 345 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:31,760 to the land value is less than 1:2. So typically if a home value was worth 346 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:36,240 250,000 the the land should be worth 500,000 at 347 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:41,440 max and that's a one to two. Anything less than that planning association says 348 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:46,240 is a property that is ripe for development and redevelopment because 349 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:51,200 the value of the improvements are less than what they should be in common 350 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:56,399 properties. So we believe for that it also meet uh meets criteria D. Again 351 00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:00,320 located uh within walking distance to the train station which meets criteria 352 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:05,679 H. Again advances the burough's fair share housing uh obligation. Again we 353 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:10,399 believe that this is a a a lack of cohesive development pattern with the 354 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:15,360 other two properties. Uh and given the location of this property in context to 355 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:20,880 lots 15 and 17, we believe it clearly meets criteria or article 3, which is 356 00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:25,520 that even if it were not to be deemed to be um meet the criteria that it is 357 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:31,120 necessary for the redevelopment of the properties as a whole. 358 00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:36,320 More pictures of the garage. Uh you can see the roof deteriorated. Um you can 359 00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:42,480 actually see the roof caving in on image uh 13 top left. um all of that. And then 360 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:52,000 the front of the house itself is on image 17, 264 Broadway, lot 17, the most 361 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:56,720 northernmost property of the three. Uh it's our opinion that this property 362 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:01,760 meets criteria D and H. The property uh no longer has a single 363 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:07,440 family home on it. Uh it was demolished in 2020, but has been occupied since 364 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:13,679 2013. So technically it does not meet criteria C in that there was a building 365 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:16,720 on that property uh in 2020 which is less than 10 years 366 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:22,480 » unoccupied since 2013 >> but it's been unoccupied since 2013. So 367 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,799 so by the letter of law we did not say that it meets criteria C although one 368 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:31,520 could argue that it should meet that criteria. There is a significant grade 369 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:37,600 change as with all the properties from uh right page right to page left to 370 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:44,000 Broadway. There are remnants of of single family uh home including stairs, 371 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:48,720 walls, fences, posts, tennis courts, all which are in a state of disrepair. The 372 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:53,919 images to the right show different years uh in which the house was located and 373 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:59,200 then uh and then had had since been removed. Some of the photos you can see 374 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:03,520 image two the ex existing stairs from Broadway going all the way up to the 375 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:09,600 top. Uh you can see the driveway on image three which is middle left. 376 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:16,000 And then you can see on uh image seven again driveway. Images nine and 10 show 377 00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:20,240 the former tennis court location at the top. And image eight is where the actual 378 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:24,320 single family house was located at the top of the property. 379 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:28,320 properties located within walking distance to the train which which in our 380 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:31,840 opinion meets criteria H. This property along with the other two advances the 381 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,840 bureau's fair share housing obligation and again this property is oversized and 382 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:40,799 therefore shows a lack of cohesive development pattern along Broadway. 383 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:46,240 In summary, it's our opinion that the report that we have uh provided to you 384 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:50,880 uh allows for the designation of lots 15, 16, and 17 through criteria C, D, 385 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:54,640 and H, and that all lots are within walking distance of the train station. 386 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,760 All lots have a significant grade change that creates difficulties in 387 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,799 redevelopment of the properties. The redevelopment of the properties would 388 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:06,320 advance the burough's fair share housing obligation. Lot 15 has been vacant for 389 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:09,600 over 10 years. Lot 16 is under size, has a dangerous parking condition, and a 390 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:14,080 garage that's in a state of repair. And lot 17 is vacant and and has remnant 391 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:19,600 improvements that are in state of disrepair as well. And with that, I'd be 392 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:24,000 happy to answer any questions. >> Yeah. What are we doing with the 393 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:30,399 developers for 240? >> So, uh the the developer of 240 is still 394 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:34,799 involved with this process and has asked the mayor and council to consider a 395 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:39,760 designation with an additional property included. Part of the the conversation 396 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:46,000 about that would be the next step which is the redevelopment plan. And the goal 397 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:52,880 being that uh a redevelopment plan would allow for uh a better development 398 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:58,080 pattern than what was approved by the board. In other words, there were there 399 00:32:55,279 --> 00:33:02,640 was a lot of uh comments made by the public about concerns about distances 400 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:07,919 from walls to property lines, distances from buildings to property lines. And so 401 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:13,840 the the conversation as a part of this process has been how can we uh create a 402 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:17,519 better pattern of development adjacent to the existing single family homes to 403 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:23,279 alleviate some of those concerns the public had. So, uh, a request to 404 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:28,240 designate this property was made. These properties was made by the developer, 405 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:32,399 mayor and council, uh, have agreed to to walk through that process. And a 406 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:38,080 redevelopment plan will then put in place zoning that creates uh, greater 407 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:43,840 uh, design standards and buffers than what was previously approved on just lot 408 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:49,120 15. Now, the development will include lot 16 and 17, which did not come before 409 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:56,480 this board, but that's why they're doing this. They have a site plan approval 410 00:33:51,440 --> 00:34:01,279 that is that is in place and um but they're asking to be able to to move 411 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,559 forward with this process. >> How many additional units, housing units 412 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:08,879 would be included in >> I don't have that in front of me. What I 413 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,240 will tell you is is that is that the redevelopment plan that would be the 414 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:17,599 next step uh would in would identify how many 415 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:20,879 units would be permitted on all three sites. I don't I don't have off the top 416 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:26,720 of my head what the number was on on just uh 15. So I don't know the answer 417 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,879 per se. It will be more obviously because there's additional property 418 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:38,280 included. Um but that will be part of a redevelopment plan which would be the 419 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:38,280 zoning side of of this uh process. 420 00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:48,480 Is lot 16 vacant now? >> Lot 16 uh has the single family house 421 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:56,240 and is occupied. >> Is that the same owner of the 16 and 17? 422 00:34:53,359 --> 00:35:01,680 » I I it's my understanding that uh that property owner owns 16 and 17. That the 423 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:09,400 developer is under contract with 15 16 and 17, but that the owner that lives in 424 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:09,400 16 also owns 17. It's my understanding. 425 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:14,560 I mean, from a designation point of view, I think all three lots are 426 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,560 certainly in agreement. >> That's our recommendation. Yes. 427 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:25,119 » And I think the mayor and council has tasked us with preliminary just just 428 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:29,359 getting this report to see if it is. Uh and then the next step if if we approve 429 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:31,599 this, this goes back to the mayor and council. 430 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:36,160 » So it would go back to the mayor and counsel. Mayor and council by resolution 431 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,480 would then designate it and if they're if they want the next step, 432 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,920 I have no reason to believe they won't take the next step, but it's not they 433 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,720 don't have to take the next step, but I have no reason to believe they won't. 434 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:52,000 The next step would be that they would then refer a redevelopment plan back to 435 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,599 the planning board. We would come here, make a presentation of that 436 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:58,800 redevelopment plan. The board's role would be to determine whether or not the 437 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,240 redevelopment plan was consistent with the burough's master plan. You would 438 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:07,720 then send a recommendation back to the mayor council which would which could 439 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:07,720 then adopt it by ordinance. 440 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,359 » Not neither the neither the authorizing resolution nor this hearing include 441 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,440 eminent domain power as >> no eminent domain power. If if eminent 442 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,680 domain became a part of the process, we would actually have to come back here 443 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:26,480 and represent this or a different study, a new study with eminent domain. It 444 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,640 would have to be >> the mayor and council would have 445 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,839 » they would have to do a resolution first. Yeah. So there's no no 446 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,200 possibility of that. >> And that's actually important because 447 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:38,720 the approving resolution to come here specifically said that it needed to be 448 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,240 announced to the public that this would be one without um no possible 449 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,640 condemnation. >> Yes. 450 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:48,800 » The development area. So clear to the public that this is not a condemnation. 451 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:55,280 » That's right. That's right. >> Uh so did you say that the um owner of 452 00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:58,720 lots of lot I mean sorry of lot 15 is under contract to purchase the other two 453 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:05,359 properties. So, it's my understanding that the that the contract purchaser for 454 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:10,800 15 has a contract of purchase 16 and 17. >> So, they do not own it yet. 455 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:15,760 » I do not know if they own it. Uh, commonly developers do don't own it. 456 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:20,160 They they have it under contract and once they get their approvals, then they 457 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,800 have to close. But, but commonly developers don't own the property until 458 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,839 they get approvals. >> Right. But they got approvals in 2024 459 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,920 before >> Yeah. So, I don't know if if the if the 460 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:33,040 developer owns lot 15 or not, >> though they're still moving along under 461 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,400 pending >> they could be. I I don't know the 462 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:42,599 answer. I it's my understanding they are under contract with 16 and 17 463 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,599 » units properties. 464 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:51,359 » So, any any questions pertaining to the actual report that Bran has presented to 465 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,520 us? >> I just have a question and I don't know 466 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:59,920 if you guys can hear me. Yeah, >> thank you. So, you know, you said that 467 00:37:57,359 --> 00:38:03,200 you didn't know how many units uh can be slated for there, but how do we know 468 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,960 that this can help with our fair share housing uh which is what you stated a 469 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,160 couple times, but if we don't know how many units are slated or could be slated 470 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:17,520 for that property? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, the this process that 471 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:21,440 the board is asked to do tonight is is, you know, one piece of it. That piece is 472 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,119 det is to determine and make a recommendation back to the mayor and 473 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:28,240 council if you believe that we have proven through this report and our 474 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:33,839 recommendation is that the properties meet the the criteria. 475 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:39,040 That's the that's the kind of the end of the the requirements of the board this 476 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:42,800 evening and I understand why everybody wants the next question. What I'll say 477 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:47,599 is that we are working with the mayor and council and we're working uh and 478 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:54,160 having communication with the developer about what the project would would be in 479 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:59,040 terms of the redevelopment plan. And that would include 480 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,880 making sure there are improvements to the site plan application that was 481 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,400 approved by this board in terms of the distance from the road and the distance 482 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,160 from the walls and distance from the building to the property lines. and that 483 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:14,720 there will be more units and there will be more affordable units. And so 484 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:19,920 therefore, I can say as a part of this plan that the redevelopment of this site 485 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:24,160 will certainly go towards the the affordable housing requirement and it 486 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:28,000 will actually improve the the burough's position with affordable housing by 487 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:33,480 making sure that there are more units that are in the next iteration of the 488 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480 plan. 489 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,680 » Jared, does that answer your questions? >> That was perfect. Thank you. 490 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:49,359 » So I I'm I know that the next step is obviously it goes back um and then 491 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:53,920 there'll be a redevelopment plan and a vision. Is do you want to share at all 492 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,960 what any thoughts you have about? So, what I will say is that you're going to 493 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:02,880 have to get another site plan application that's going to come before 494 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:09,040 this board on lot 15 which you which you already approved and it will now include 495 00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:14,480 lot 15 16 and 17. I will say that that the that what we're working through 496 00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:20,000 again aside from this meeting what we're working through are are similar amount 497 00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:26,000 of density similar types of units similar types of architecture and I 498 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:30,960 would say that what we're what my job is to make sure that the improvements in 499 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:37,359 terms of impacts to the adjacent neighbors are better are significantly 500 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:41,520 better than what what was originally came through. So that so we're trying to 501 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:45,280 appease I think the governing body is attempting to make sure that that this 502 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,480 process allows them to get a better project built and less impact on some of 503 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,560 the neighbors. >> Fran, do you remember the the size of 504 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:57,240 the two additional lots that that we're talking about here 17 and 15? 505 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:07,440 I do that the you know the yeah the problem is and and this has been a you 506 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:12,319 know when I go on to the GIS database it says 16 and 17 are close in size and 507 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:17,440 they're clearly not. So I I you know we do have them listed in here as acreage 508 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,400 of.3 acres and and >> I think they're both listed as.3. 509 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,280 » Yeah, I know. And they're clearly not the same. 510 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:28,720 » They don't look as big. Uh but that's the all the data that we had was the was 511 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:31,920 the GIS database that showed it. >> Right. 512 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:37,640 » Yeah. I mean the other the other site is nearly 5 acres. 513 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,640 » Yeah. 4.9 or something like that. 514 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,200 » Probably just over an acre altogether. Okay. 515 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,079 » I think it's I think it's a little over six acres total. 516 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:50,560 » Oh, right. So it's probably about an acre. Um Okay. 517 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,119 » I'll say that when we come in for the redevelopment plan, we'll have that. 518 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,880 Yeah, we'll have a site plan. We'll have we'll have that information 519 00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:03,599 » answered later. >> I mean, I I think the report clearly 520 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:08,160 defines an area any um if anyone has any other questions for 521 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:14,160 Fran. Do we need to open to the public for discussion on this before we vote? 522 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:18,160 » Motion to open to the public. >> Second. 523 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:24,680 » All in favor? I does anyone in the public have any questions or comments 524 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,680 regarding Fran's testimony? 525 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:32,119 » Okay. Motion to close to the public. >> Second. 526 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,119 » All in favor? 527 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:40,960 » All right. So, I mean, I think that we should present this plan to the mayor 528 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:45,599 and council as drafted. Um, and I think Fran did an excellent job on 529 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:49,040 the uh on the test and proving that these lots are definitely in an area 530 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:55,200 they need. >> I have a I can't believe that the mayor 531 00:42:51,760 --> 00:43:01,920 and council actually thinks adding more houses to this town after what happened 532 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:08,079 last year and the amount of houses that we got started. It's I I can't believe 533 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:12,359 that that plan is right here now. We don't need more house. 534 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,960 That's right. 535 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,319 » As far as the presentation, 536 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,000 » yeah, >> think those are areas in need or 537 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:34,240 those three months. I mean, when we were on the council, I 538 00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:42,160 remember discussing uh potentially getting the entire area reszoned or not 539 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:46,400 not res but declared an area. >> Isn't a developer for students who comes 540 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,480 in, he sees a couple of pieces of property, wants to put together, that's 541 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:56,720 usually the way it's done. But we're doing the work for a developer right 542 00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:00,960 here. I I I don't get it. I I really don't. 543 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,800 I mean designating an area in need of redevelopment is a tool that 544 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:10,480 municipalities have that allows them to have much um more guidance is is that 545 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:14,640 the right word friend rather than control or 546 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:19,200 » I would say that the that the so I'm in I'm in a number of 547 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:23,119 municipalities and I think I think there I don't think municipalities are happy 548 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,800 with all of the residential development that's happening and most of it in the 549 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,319 state of New Jersey where they're unhappy it's happening because of to the 550 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:34,319 affordable housing requirements. Right? So, I don't I don't I don't know that 551 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,079 the mayor and council would say we'd love the idea of having all these 552 00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:42,880 residential units. The problem is is the state has mandated that municipalities, 553 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:48,000 each municipality provide affordable housing as a legal requirement and the 554 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:53,599 burrow of Cliff Lake was given a number of units that it has to produce and and 555 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:58,480 it has to provide what's called a realistic development potential of those 556 00:44:55,839 --> 00:45:02,880 number of units. And so municipalities that might not want multif family 557 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:07,280 residential are having to to do that because if they don't, they open 558 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:12,800 themselves up to builder remedy suits and litigation where whatever number of 559 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:16,319 units you thought was too much is significantly more than that. And there 560 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:20,000 are example after example in the state of 561 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:24,160 New Jersey. The worst one I can think of is Anglewood Cliffs where they built 562 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,400 1,200 residential units where >> they were only asking I think for 4 or 563 00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:31,920 500 >> where where they wanted 4 or 500 the 564 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:36,079 town said no they they neglected the the fair share housing requirements and the 565 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,480 developer built came in with a builder remedy suit and the construction of 566 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:44,800 over,200 units is already hap it's happening right now. It's they're under 567 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:49,040 construction. So, I don't think that towns and I and I don't I'm not going to 568 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:53,680 speak for this mayor and council, but I don't think towns in general want all of 569 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:59,200 this development. I think that the state, the courts and fair share has 570 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,599 required it to happen. And the only thing a town can do is protect itself in 571 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:07,359 the best way that it can. One of the mayors that I spoke to, you know, that I 572 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,760 that I work with said something I thought was was interesting in terms of 573 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,599 we're going to take the best worstc case scenario that we can, which is we're 574 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:19,119 going to protect ourselves. We're going to give ourselves immunity and we're 575 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,040 going to do it in the least way that impacts us. And so I think that I would 576 00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:26,240 say that that's why mayor and councils do that. I'm not saying that's why this 577 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:29,200 one does it, but that's how I've seen other mayor and counsel. 578 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,280 » I could tell you that's why this mayor and council did it. I mean, if you look, 579 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:37,359 you don't have to go so far up to Englewood. If you look right over at our 580 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:42,480 neighbors, anybody who's right next to the old Sony property will tell you that 581 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:46,319 that's about, what is it, like 27 units per acre, they were given, that's not 582 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:52,720 even what they went in and asked for. They were then given a 30 foot variance. 583 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:56,480 So that if you are standing in our rear the rear yard is 30 584 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:00,880 » I mean it is exactly 30 ft because we have measured to make sure but it looks 585 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:05,440 like it's right on top of it. So when we're given a choice between you know 586 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:09,440 making the best of a situation that we don't have a lot of control over. We've 587 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:13,920 taken the position that it is in our town's best interest to do what we can 588 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,960 to have a say in what the developments are, to work with developers to create 589 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:23,760 something that is reflective of the other um properties within the town and 590 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:28,160 that we don't get slammed with too much, that we're not penalized. I mean, Montil 591 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:31,920 right now has their lawsuit and they're they're they haven't settled with Fair 592 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:36,880 Share and they're looking at the KPMG building and Fair Share wants to put 27 593 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:40,720 units per acre on that property also. So I mean these are not these aren't 594 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:45,680 speculative things. We know for a fact that we either work nicely and create 595 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:50,640 something that everyone feels good about or we get something like the Sony 596 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:55,440 project in our in our town which we did not feel was acceptable. 597 00:47:52,480 --> 00:48:01,040 » And I believe this municipality's last builder's remedy lawsuit may remember it 598 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,599 » um is where you live. >> Correct. Rather 94 599 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,599 » right? >> Yeah. 600 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:11,359 » Right. Um, so I think the mayor and council's taken a position to try to 601 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:17,200 stay out of a builder's remedy because what they're looking for would be in the 602 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:20,800 neighborhood of four to five times what uh we could probably negotiate or what 603 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:24,400 they could probably negotiate, you know, and and designating an area in 604 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:29,200 need of redevelopment, which was the start of this conversation, allows the 605 00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:35,599 mayor council to have, you know, um, a little more guidance on the end product 606 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:40,960 than, um, um basically us having to rubber stamp a builder's remedy lawsuit, 607 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,680 you know, and I think for this presentation, these three lots certainly 608 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,960 qualify. Um so I'd make I'd make a recommendation that we we pass this up 609 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,880 to motion. 610 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,920 » That's a motion from Jerry. >> Second. 611 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,760 » Second from Evan. >> Roll call, please. 612 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040 » Councilwoman Marsh. >> Yes. 613 00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:00,400 » Mr. Barbara, >> yes. 614 00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:02,400 » Mr. Coffman, >> yes. 615 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,240 » Mr. Lazerowitz. >> Yes. 616 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,599 » Mr. Sharer, >> yes. 617 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,000 » Mr. Panza, >> no. 618 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,760 » Vice Chairman Dwan. >> Yes. 619 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:14,880 » Chairman Beljini. >> Yes. 620 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:18,559 » Thank you very much. Uh, Mr. Roner, do you you um like any of the summaries or 621 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,760 anything like that that we all have, but could you just make sure that Corvis has 622 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,000 a copy of the presentation for today? >> Oh, well, I'll send it to Appreciate it. 623 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,559 Thank you. >> Great job. Thanks for the big 624 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:32,800 » Thank you very much. And then I think we just have a open, you know, any uh any 625 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:37,599 board discussion >> or any any new business 626 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,800 » before we open to the public. Not that there's any public here, but 627 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,520 » in case the public's opening is going to put the presentation up on 628 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,599 our website, >> right? 629 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,119 Ridiculous. >> So, um 630 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:58,400 » I don't think we have any any any board discussion that we want to go over 631 00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:02,559 before we start this year. other than welcoming Evan. 632 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:06,000 » Yeah. Well, welcome. Thank you. >> And Jared, I'm sorry Jared. Out of 633 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,359 sight, out of mind. >> No big deal. 634 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,280 » But it's nice to have the technology when it works. 635 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,240 » Um, any new business that we have to worry about or talk about? Do we have 636 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:23,200 any applications coming in that you know of or anything? No. Okay. And we have to 637 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:27,119 open to public just as a formality because there's nobody here. 638 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:28,319 » Motion to open to public. Any sort of comment? 639 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,720 » Second. >> Second. 640 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,680 » All in favor? >> I. 641 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:36,960 » Anyone from the public have any comment? >> No. Okay. Motion to close the public. 642 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:42,040 » Second. >> Okay. Who's going to be the first? 643 00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:50,280 » All in favor? >> Thank you guys. 644 00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,000 » Yeah. to relax. Is this earth?