[0:00] 21st 2024 we're glad you're here welcome to the Woodin town of Woodin Town [0:05] council meeting the first thing we do is to approve the agenda I want to make one [0:11] point on the agenda p in front of you a section was added called G it's normally [0:16] in our packets but there's one item item G5 it's ABC reports even though we have [0:22] Tom from ABC the chair of the board here he's not going to be talking about the [0:27] items included [0:31] so it leads me to believe that perhaps next month a new business we should [0:35] consider moving our ABC report dates CU you all only met yesterday and asking [0:39] you to come today to me doesn't seem to make sense but just wanted to make sure [0:45] you understand what should be Ved so is there a motion to approve the agenda or [0:49] any amendments [0:53] thereof all in favor say I I thank you very much item C is the consent agenda [1:00] and the way we work it unless you have a question I'm going to talk about those [1:04] items they in the pack does anybody war or feel the need to discuss any of the [1:08] items in the consent agenda we can do that if you want [1:13] to and is there a motion to approve the consent [1:18] second all say I great thank [1:23] you now that it is 5:03 p.m. we're going to do what we I think is our favorite [1:28] and we're going to have public comments um is there anyone here who wants to [1:33] address the Town Council by we have a list to sign up but I think I know [1:46] everybody all right it is a serious time and we really I really wish Mor thank [1:53] you there is no one so we're going to close public comment at 50:4 p.m. and [1:57] move to section on the agenda uh Tom Spradley the chair of the board of ABC [2:03] store equin please thank you for being here thank you very much [2:10] toce [2:14] May thank you very for the opportunity [2:25] to First really [2:30] something something already know I'm sure this year payments have [2:44] increased do that [2:50] traic um we [2:54] also had an opportunity to we have position coming up it's I'm reti and we [3:06] had the opportunity [3:09] toie [3:16] Wester very great experience she reti vice [3:22] president [3:30] and we believe should be real asset choose [3:42] to question last year we were very forunate we [3:49] had I hope this year but I don't think this year we lost [3:56] anything because we have only one I don't [4:11] and will that be sent to [4:18] us [4:24] well um getting to the finances of Sals uh [4:32] we're U we're flat again this year we'll do about [4:45] 2.6 well we got two months to go I don't see a different but April was extremely [4:53] goodth we were up 4.8% uh and [5:00] uh we perform better than the state for's average [5:11] of9 that most not [5:18] mixed [5:25] 2,00 which was [5:33] prob thank very [5:39] much that H everybody surprise [5:46] AC [5:50] Prov I would [5:55] say post [6:07] that's [6:23] that's be appoint new board member we also [6:39] and uh Jackie Craig one of our board members [6:45] Chief most C for chair and if you ask me a question she's here to answer [7:00] but uh but [7:06] that's those Village there was a a Mexican Guatemalan restaurant that had [7:11] other locations in town serving the alcohol they were unable to get their [7:15] hard their license is it really that complicated or when a restaurant owner [7:20] says we weren't able to get it is there always something that we don't know is [7:25] there always a good reason for somebody not getting it our usual [7:30] situation I I don't know what the usual situation I would think most [7:37] thec but there are some regulations on approve [7:50] new it almost a year without giving an [7:55] answer or it normally the answer come sooner than [8:05] no I don't know that that would be we were just disappointed if po here a lot [8:10] of real estate and when it closed was well [8:16] I I would be dis I am disappointed to find out it takes that law because I [8:21] wouldn't think like everybody else here somewhat short I don't know about the [8:27] regul regulation section I know the audited section had one auditor that [8:33] covered the entire State and [8:42] that's let ask one other question we have a new hotel that's been under [8:46] construction for seven years you know the one I'm talking about it's had [8:51] various signs on it now it says holidan express their parent company said I'm [8:55] wrong they are not opening and withing I'm assuming it's hot going to have a [9:00] bar I know this well ium they will I hope they will [9:07] but by here the hotel has been sold [9:15] again and I know [9:20] that one of the princi one of the managers cross the [9:28] street speak to general manager and uh he was [9:36] asking she she knew ready to get some employees [9:43] and of [9:52] course assume that had something to do is it years like [10:01] uh okay thank you other questions [10:15] for first of all um do I understand that you're retiring from the board or just [10:21] asair from the from the board and thank you for your service a lot of us sort of [10:28] thing invol in how thankless sometimes that is um I guess my first question is [10:38] and [10:41] may process for appointing a [10:51] board possib present name name or they people [10:59] to council and [11:03] counil vot onment well that's there's U on the [11:09] website on the town's website there's a place to apply for board positions and [11:15] committee positions and that's posted [11:21] so anybody do it in years past uh we managed to find somebody to be on the [11:29] board have them put in an [11:34] application this past [11:44] year does that mean that the current board might um Talk amongst themselves [11:49] and then say oh this person recommend this person people to counil counil nin [11:59] well we were asked to give our opin [12:05] but [12:14] counil suest app on own [12:35] [Music] [12:48] council members have [12:55] opion a couple more questions [13:00] 2.6 million that receips that 2. [13:09] milon andine [13:14] that 100% ofet profits are donated to the work is that correct uh that's [13:21] correct there a there's a percentage uh that comes off the top set [13:27] aside off the after we paid police and after we paid [13:35] for the alcohol treatment [13:40] actually to First Step Farm as our contribution [13:47] to the charity after that a percentage of that set aside from the town and then [13:54] if there's poets beyond that well that then [14:01] aside [14:05] working and there's a limit on how much [14:20] Works certain [14:29] our operating expenses we got money go to various [14:38] places but the town it before a certain [14:49] percentage Ma [15:16] know I just add two things to that [15:25] term um [15:31] when you look at what various ABC boards contribute to the [15:38] towns uh there's a wide variation it makes a huge amount I mean [15:46] doll each St these store is roughly the same size car same ver because that's [15:54] what we here and prices are all [15:59] you can't advertise [16:04] so the big difference in what comes down bottom line [16:14] to is determined by our gross sales [16:20] primary and so there's a tremendous amount of Leverage that we can handle a [16:25] lot more traffic than we our has been emplo just because of nature job about [16:33] as many employees as any other s about the same [16:39] size about the same but but the more you more traffic [16:46] push most of it goes to the bottom line it's [16:51] wonderful so so send us [16:57] CS question thank you very much and congratulations [17:02] on [17:09] retirement [17:12] thanks let us see you in the asille [17:17] we next we have uh our partner land Sky Regional Council Ian B is here tonight [17:24] uh in our comprehensive plan we emphasized improving our Environmental [17:29] and trying to move to nonoss fuel sources uh Ian is a specialist for land [17:34] of sky in electronic vehicles and charging what the different kinds are [17:40] how much they cost to build where they are and he's going to give us a brief [17:52] presentation your slides are on the website that we can look at if [18:22] worse [18:27] there for [19:17] okay good I got it [19:41] they share all [19:44] [Music] [19:50] right okay you're being live stream okay I presentation um but thank you [19:59] mayor mallister and the council for having me uh again my name is Ian Bailey [20:05] uh I'm a regional planner for ly Regional Council and my primary work [20:10] there is with the L Sky clean vehicles Coalition uh what we do is encourage [20:16] alternative fuels use uh in Fleet and uh municipality use as well as in [20:24] individual and users uh electric vehicles have become a very big that in [20:29] the last half dozen years and so that has encapsulated a lot more of our work [20:35] we also work with propane compressed natural [20:39] gas hydrogen when it comes um biodiesel any of the any of the alternative fuels [20:46] um specifically non non fossil fuel based [20:52] stuff sure so the [20:57] uh tonight I'm going to talk about new kind of electric cars um it's a to Hot [21:02] Topic right now A lot of people are talking about policy and a lot of people [21:07] are talking about progress with the transition to [21:11] electrification and so I'm going to start with some basic facts um from the [21:16] history of electric cars um we're actually going to go a [21:19] little further back the M the 1700s uh steam cars started to appear on [21:25] the scene and replace uh course and and Buggies as the main transport [21:33] never had to advance my own sp else [21:38] always um and and at that point in time Ste was considered a tried and true [21:44] power source which sound pretty familiar we hear that a lot today about coal we [21:48] hear a lot about gasoline and tried through energy source [21:53] that has long since been reliable and Transit factories as a power source [21:59] uh downside being that steam Vehicles could take up to 45 minutes to get [22:03] started if it was cold and they required frequent water RS to keep [22:09] running in 1841 an electric locomotive was [22:14] campaigned that was able to pull six tons a mile and a half at 4 milph and [22:19] that was the first real demonstration of electrification and insort [22:25] power uh in 1859 chargeable batteries came onto the [22:30] scene that really started to change kind of the the methodology for electric [22:37] transportation um in 1890 fellow named Willie Morrison in De [22:42] Mo Iowa built a six passenger electric vehicle that would travel 14 M hour and [22:50] had 50 m range um those Vehicles required the [22:55] batteries to be changed after the drve have we didn't we didn't have enough [23:01] battery stock at that point [23:05] um and Philadelphia in 1896 so a handful of years a company called electr started [23:13] to produce electric vehicles and it was the first commercially viable EV uh and [23:18] actually raced those cars against some of the existing stock of other [23:24] automobiles on the road were able to beat down on 5 m [23:29] anybody here has ever had a ride or driven an electric [23:32] vehicle that they have all of the door [23:38] um between 1900 and 1906 a company called the electric vehicle company [23:44] operated over 600 EV cabs in New York City they built the first battery [23:49] swapping station that they could pull the cars in and quickly swap batteries [23:54] between them and send them right back out on the road to carry passengers [23:57] again uh an investment partner in that project [24:02] became the exi battery corporation which is still one of the largest battery [24:07] manufacturers in the world and another partner in that named [24:13] po developed the columia brand was the first automobile manufacturer to build a [24:18] th automobiles [24:23] um then there are the gasoline cars came on the scene [24:28] were complicated to drive they were hard to start they were noisy they were [24:32] smelly there weren't any of the things that the electric cars even the steam [24:35] cars people knew were but then Henry for came in this picture and with the Model [24:42] T he overtook the electric cars while being able to provide one the cost of [24:48] what any of the existing cars any other manufactur [24:53] processes after that until about 20 years ago rest history [25:01] so adoption of EVS in the United States uh in [25:04] 2023 was a record year for the sale of EVS in the United States we more than [25:09] doubled the number of EVS on the road we sold 1.2 million EVS in the calendar [25:15] year of 2023 in the United States 7.6% of the new vehicles sold for e in [25:24] 2023 that was a an insane growth curve for electric vehicles uh in the [25:31] automotive industry they consider 5% of sales being the threshold between early [25:38] adopters and becoming mainstream adoptions so in 2023 we actually crossed [25:43] that 5% thresh where it's starting to look like it's not just people who like [25:48] new tech or different things or people that are like just really into the [25:53] environmental more regular people are buying and driving them you keep on the [25:58] road you'll see that that's the case in this area we' got a lot [26:03] of North Carolina has been in the top 20 States Nationwide for Ev registrations [26:10] per capita for the past few years uh our region has seen a 24% growth rate in [26:17] registrations uh and what that equates to on the math side is there were five [26:23] times as many EV registrations in land ofy count in 2023 as they were in [26:35] 2018 so I'll talk a little bit about e charging because this is something that [26:39] a lot of people hear about and don't really understand there's a lot of [26:43] information here so I'm just going to try to run through it to keep it fairly [26:47] basic so e is PR recharge from a variety of electrical [26:51] sources electricity as a power source is relatively inexpensive especially here [26:56] in North Carolina some of the lowest rates below average for national average [27:01] ofle rates it's widely available can be dispensed at home without any special [27:07] equipment one of the standard charging methods is called Level One charging [27:13] when you buy an electric car it comes with a cord that has a level one plug [27:17] and that plugs into just 120 volt wall outl like a regular lamp or your [27:24] computer um those Chargers between mil of range per hour [27:30] they charging Level One charging works best [27:33] for times when the car is parked for many hours of a time for instance I [27:38] drive my car home I plug it in at night I'm asleep it's charging itself [27:44] depending on the distance you commute a level one charger may be able to fulfill [27:49] all of your mileage needs at any given day while you sleep overnight level two [27:55] charging has become more common type of thing we started to see in shopping [28:00] centers angles has put them in at some of their locations level two Chargers [28:05] can also be installed at your home they require a 240 volt circuit like a dry [28:11] electric range for use they can provide between 10 and 40 m [28:16] of range per hour depending on the hard of the vehicle and that really is [28:20] dependent on the circuit the charger the vehicle willing to [28:24] accept uh level two charging is really ideal when Vehicles park for 30 minutes [28:30] or more while you're shopping while you're [28:33] enjoying leisure activities outdoors sporting events or lawyer at home or at [28:38] work so workplace charging is another place that we're seeing level two being [28:43] installed DC fast charging is kind of the hot button topic uh that we hear the [28:48] most about when we hear about infrastructure infrastructure [28:51] infrastructure on electric vehicle charging B large are talking about DC [28:56] fast charging fast charging is really ideal for long distance travel of quick [29:01] top ups and can provide up to 8% of the range of the vehicle in as little as 15 [29:07] minutes again depending on the charger and the vehicle um my vehicle is a [29:12] little older it takes about 45 minutes to an hour to get [29:17] 80% Sarah my boss's vehicle can do that same charge in 18 [29:22] minutes um DC fast driving works really well in [29:27] places people might stop for a bathroom break or a meal or a short shopping trip [29:33] a grocery store convenience store um DC also tends to be the most expensive form [29:38] of charging requiring special equipment and electric utility [29:42] support um on the average I would say traveling on the road I pay about $5 to [29:48] $18 for 200 miles range DC F which balances out to about 30 m per [29:56] gallon G doing that on gas even if we were [30:02] going to build a DC Bass Station B Town Hall can you make up a ballpark what [30:08] what do those things cost to construct starts at about [30:11] $50,000 um if it's not Fally funded you can keep it low if it's Fally funded [30:18] it's got to meet new requirement that push it up to almost a million [30:23] do if it's Fally funded it's got to have there's got to be four Chargers and [30:28] they've got to have a higher rate of current capacity than the lower cost [30:33] charges [30:37] G L1 l2c [30:41] um [30:45] batteries is there [30:49] [Music] issue Charing or [31:00] it very marginally impacts the [31:05] biggest um battery life harm you can do is keeping the vehicle near 100% [31:12] charg so the high the high state of charge the battery generates more heat [31:18] heat is what causes the battery to fail more soon and by more soon I mean many [31:24] of the EVS on in 2017 from that era are on the road 300,000 [31:33] miles so with exception on Le which didn't have temperature management [31:39] battery the battery Management systems do a very good job and the cycle ofy is [31:45] well up thousand of 100% CES soon our our plug in hybrid will be [31:54] built too [31:58] if it's a plug in yeah you can charge it on level one orev [32:04] two some of those [32:13] come so where we are in charging Western North Carolina is an interesting and [32:18] challenging point in transportation electrification our region is rich in [32:22] natural beauty clean air and outdor Recreation opportunities and with touris [32:28] component of our Region's income we find ourselves considerably under stocked [32:31] when it comes to infrastructure to support our residents and visitors to [32:35] the area lines of DC fast Chargers and occup charg common Cur across the [32:42] region and our current inventory of DC fast Chargers is this we have 11 [32:49] locations with a combined 22 PLS that are open to all makes and models of DC [32:56] fast we have five Tesla Supercharger locations with a combin total of 40 CLS [33:02] between them now recently for and have open up [33:07] onto the Tesla Network Char that's [33:14] helpes this area we have one Riv DC fast charger with one BL and for level two [33:21] infrastructure we have less than 100 publicly available stations in our FL [33:25] County region to PLS a large quantity of the listed [33:31] sites up online HS and those statistics are [33:38] within which is [33:42] Madison and up here the image that I've got on the top there is a picture of a [33:48] proposed DC fast charging map from NC while we're working on the first part [33:55] of the process we talk about [34:00] um what's the for to the West what is that the farthest west of Asheville was [34:08] spotted kind of near Windville is um in reality the map looks a lot more [34:17] like this this is a prod this [34:26] map it's a bunch of worms so there's currently two infrastructure funding [34:31] programs Federal infrastructure funding programs out there the first one is [34:36] called we call it nevi it's the national electric vehicle infrastructure [34:41] program uh the second one is called CFI and it's the charging and fueling [34:45] infrastructure program the ne program is going to be [34:49] handled through the state BS and so they get allocations North Carolina is [34:54] getting $109 million and [34:58] they will have multiple roll outs for different phases of implementation for [35:02] this doing cor base charg first which is what this map is and so each of those [35:08] numbered areas are a designated location that they have identified a handful of [35:14] exits that would be a good spot for an easy fast charger [35:19] installation um it dictates that the four based charging locations must be [35:25] within 50 miles of each other they must contain at least four clubs capable of [35:30] 150 Sous the other program they'll be [35:34] running out of n is community based charging and we don't have guidelines [35:39] for what they look like yet probably see that in next [35:43] year um NC did recently a few months ago release their round one every cluster [35:49] locations that's this map and it honestly Le a lot be desire for our [35:54] region um the Western most location identified on here is exit 73 that's [36:01] old um there's a gap from there to the Tennessee State Bond of you know [36:07] probably about 73 miles um with no compliant Chargers the only compliant [36:13] charger that we have in the actual area is a Sam's Club on Patt Avenue and it's [36:19] more than a mile from our so it's not comp to that it is comp [36:26] to good new there going to be more so in the second phase of B base charging [36:33] you'll be filling in gaps in between Lo they did Focus primarily on Roots [36:40] getting people away from the co for Hurricane and also filling a few gaps [36:48] are3 Gap [36:53] there St [36:58] um bad news about it is that level the round one sites for this NE program [37:03] aren't expected to be able to mission for probably two to years because it's [37:09] Federal funding and that means we have to go through a ton of processes and [37:13] procedures before we can actually break and build thing and there's a lot of [37:17] checks and balances that have to happen going [37:22] process the charging fueling infrastructure program is administered [37:26] by federal highways and as such it's a nationwide [37:30] competitive funding opportunity it offers both Bor and Community Based [37:35] opportunties and will be opened up yearly for five years it's about2 and5 [37:39] billion doll in funds in that program that are available we just run round one [37:45] and awarded that this past fall and land Vehicles Coalition helped to produce an [37:53] application for round one that NCD The Proposal would supply high speed DC [38:01] fast charging to five communities west of [38:04] Ashville almost all of which are actually out of our region but what we [38:08] were working on is a cross Regional collaboration to end gaps as as any [38:16] direction go down georgiae our application unfortunately [38:22] was not funed and we did just get feedback this week on it that it was [38:26] compe there weren't sufficient funds and we are likely to resubmit that [38:32] application in this next round but it will either be submitted through us or [38:36] Southwestern Commission because one thing we noticed in that is that no do [38:42] applications were funed Ground one all a lot of it was counil of government we [38:48] actually went with do offer they brought in a consult work with them because we [38:54] thought that stronger application there's [39:01] um we're also working with Partners across the region to develop charging [39:05] projects along major corridors as well as in communities with a goal of apply [39:09] for opportunities as they arise we're also working with [39:13] municipalities and business owners infrastructure planning and installation [39:17] location for construction Happ inorder to prepare those [39:22] sites on Ro [39:27] so what can we do there's a lot that you can do in your [39:32] community to be able to help with the adoption of electrification and [39:37] transportation and be able to help the community get some of this funding [39:40] that's coming down from the federal government planning and zoning is a big [39:44] place that plays into it ensuring that your plan use and development ordinances [39:49] encourage recharging infrastructure and or supporting infrastructure for future [39:54] charging installations res es can inadvertently [39:58] hinder the adoption of new technology and reduce resid abilities to make [40:02] choices that suit their needs and wants long range planning including [40:08] having an indepth look at your communties needs for electrification [40:11] when you're doing strategic and long-term planning processes that can [40:15] help help you to inform your language in your longterm plan to prepare the [40:21] community for the increase in need the adoption that is naturally occurring [40:25] currently in the United States you can Don legislative support as well [40:30] letting your elected officials and representatives know that our [40:33] communities are experiencing a rapid growth and need ownership and that we [40:37] need support for continued investment in infrastructure that's a that's a thing [40:42] that we run into when we do these applications we do a big application [40:45] like that we ask for letter of support from all of the elected officials in the [40:51] areas where that's applicable we have some that dein on that application [41:00] FAL [41:04] [Music] [41:10] support just didn't think it a big use of [41:15] funds didn't think it was important enough and we honestly we have lots of [41:21] problems PL places um but because that funding was [41:27] use of that funding um we can educate ourselves we can educate our communities [41:33] about like of transportation and how it impacts us we can address the issues and [41:37] concerns as well as the opportunities in the this and that's what we do at land [41:42] Vehicles Coalition there's a lot of Outreach a lot of Education a lot of [41:46] opportunities for people to just check these cars out drive them take a look at [41:51] them ask the questions ask what you what you think you know about it and you're [41:55] curious you heard this thing but that's what we do my job is to answer those [42:01] questions and and to provide real data and information about [42:07] what's going on with them um you can plan you can consider how your community [42:12] is impacted by transportation in general and help the transition to new [42:16] technologies that could be electric cars Bic pedri infrastructure and there's a [42:22] lot of places to go with that you can coordinate with businesses res and [42:27] to be prepared for the fing opportunities to come in a lot of times [42:31] they've got a 20 to 50% match so then it makes sense to have Partnerships where [42:36] you may have other entities that can put some money into that game and help you [42:40] make that difference of um experience we host a lot of events at the C Vehicles [42:46] Coalition throughout the year we do a number of car shows including a couple [42:50] big car shows of as Outlets every single year uh and we encourage everybody to [42:55] come out take a ride cars talk to us about the stuff ask all the questions [43:00] just to you know so when the community comes to you and wants to know what you [43:04] think about it you're make an informed statement for them um and last is [43:09] contact you reach out to us with any questions if you need data if you need [43:15] Publications we've got access to all of the things published by all the National [43:19] Laboratories all the studies and there's a ton of that ton of [43:23] those resources out there so when you're looking for a specific thing reach out [43:28] that's something that can help you to [43:32] find and so in conclusion with Transportation industry is constantly [43:37] evolving from Steam Powered and electric cars to gasoline and Diesel back to [43:42] electric and even on the hydrogen in the future we are all along through ride and [43:47] it's up to us to understand and plan for how this Evolution changes the way we Mo [43:52] our residents deserve an equal opportunity to choose the transportation [43:55] solutions that work for them and our communities deserve Investments that [43:59] will help Propel us into the future if anybody has any questions here for [44:04] [Music] [44:14] questions what's the [44:18] philosophical emphasis your Coalition on intersection between [44:23] individual and their char public [44:32] transportation um the the underlying premise of the entire [44:38] Coalition is decarbonization of transportation and [44:41] air pollution reduction sources so we branched [44:48] outow and whatever else just looking at places where we can reduce our [44:54] emission across theard [45:05] going on I have prior to working aty I [45:20] was they got a micro now on site they're starting toour some electric trim [45:26] equipment Le and and stuff there's a yeah they're doing a lot [45:32] of good work we were working on a lot of that stuff time [45:43] there thank you very much for coming we [Music] [45:52] appreciate thank youor council members um [45:57] so to begin uh in the administration department I'd like to report on [46:01] contracts that have come in in the last 30 days the first two contracts actually [46:05] go together TSA choice for just under $3,000 for [46:10] someing work just basically computer infrastructure that we need in our [46:16] basement as part of our evidence group renovation with that renovation we're [46:21] adding in office for evidence custodian and processing area we stru to do that [46:28] work the second contract for CNA Associates is for um some it's a new [46:35] software mod this is part of not just Improvement [46:40] evation of the EV a lot of law enforcement agencies are moving towards [46:45] PS um it's just a very sophisticated well design software for [46:53] tracking all of your evidence good data ass it a barod [47:00] system EV scan and it allows us to not only record [47:07] data about that but track it so that evidence go to a lab support anywhere [47:20] else is that a cent server or is it a cloud application that [47:31] server I [47:35] didn't that means that you're not really configuring it [47:40] individually each client [47:50] B hear the question I could hear your vending machine sorry so my question [47:54] about p is it that you buy and put on maches here [48:00] clients or is it a application that exists in the cloud that you connect to [48:06] no it is put into our server here it integrates with the County's [48:12] arest sorry it is placed on the server here [48:17] and it integrates with the County's Rec management system so they can speak back [48:21] and forth with each other but it's it's built and kept in house it's built and [48:26] kept in is not a third party application that it [48:31] is a third party B and install it and maintain so that means to me that'll be [48:38] successive iterations of it over time a client can decide whether or not [48:43] they want to upgrade or not you may reach a point where you have to upgrade [48:48] if you want to continue using it similar to other software modules [48:54] that we use for other applications um this initial contract is for that [49:00] initial software module getting it installed getting it up and running [49:10] and I'm [49:14] assuming I just about I'm assuming that there are several possible solutions and [49:21] this is the one that these departments in County are using to to [49:33] Jo Trend in Enterprise software is cloudbased where you don't do [49:49] own [49:53] solution that [49:57] I don't I'm not sure we didn't what we have chosen is all the departments in [50:03] the county that came together and been uh have gone to this or are going to [50:09] this system and so during that they're [50:13] developing a new I guess a central system for us that Central Square has [50:18] been using now for record management but they're going to a different group so [50:21] they're trying to make sure they all integrate this pack system so kind of a [50:26] colletive this is the best one out here this is what we're all going to [50:35] already uh the current contract small contract Council has been [50:39] updated before about some of our mod Improvement Community while [50:44] weac [50:50] work lien the last contract P construction is [50:54] for the Church Road project I've reported on this in the [50:58] past this is our highest priority of our infrastructure identified after church [51:05] Street for Church Road um we'll look at the entire inventory and and look at the [51:10] highest priorities and probably do a single contract for the rest but this [51:13] one was almost you know maybe just short of an [51:17] emergency situation of course this is budget [51:22] season so we're also working on the fiscal year 2025 budget manag report [51:27] sher's going to get up and her budget presentation and then we look forward to [51:33] adoption next but the big news this month in administration is the Riverside [51:38] Park progress um this is big Park project as you all know our first round [51:44] of bids came in quite high so we had to recope the project put it back out to [51:49] bid but we have the benefit of the first set of so we knew exactly how the design [51:53] so we can maximize the funding that we have [51:57] unfortunately though while the bids were very successful and I think the second [52:00] round worked very well we had to amend the agreement for our grant from the TDA [52:07] and I say unfortunately only because it just takes time and we're anxious to get [52:11] the project started in a big meeting last week with all the partners the good [52:15] news is everybody supports the the res did um and has you know we all talked [52:22] about how to expedite getting the pro started and so this is example of [52:27] Community Support around this project and everybody willing to kind CH in and [52:32] do what they can do to kind make it happen there are steps that have to take [52:36] there three parties to the agreement B County the T and the town of so we have [52:41] to kind of go through a process to get all those but it's really goods and we [52:47] if all goes perfectly um we can potentially be contracts within that [52:52] first so it could get pushed off a little bit but [53:00] um moving on to planning planning department and Facilities um we're we've [53:05] had some really positive feedback about some recent Communications that the [53:09] department has produced one was the steep slope pamphlet that went out [53:13] several years ago um another was which was very unexpected was the Manu the [53:20] manufactured housing advertisements and announcements that we shared with the [53:24] community so liked the way it was put together they liked the information how [53:29] was presented very clear very readable so we're trying to take that feedback [53:33] and see if there's more that we can do um in in on the communication front so [53:39] we have standard notices that we do with the plan department so we're looking to [53:43] see how we could apply some of that feedback and those notices that people [53:48] inform I have a mo [53:52] feder department is also managing a very heavy increase in applications so if you [53:58] compare the last 30 days in W to the same time period last year it's [54:04] about increase it's about three times what we were doing now permitting [54:10] frequently sort of waxes and wings and you'll go through valys [54:15] and and Peaks but it is it is it does feel like things are picking up um which [54:23] is interesting given interest rates and cost ofst right now um I don't know if [54:28] this is maybe a symptom of just a lot of projects and now just want to wait any [54:33] long happen if you total those permits just in the last three weeks it's $65 [54:39] million construction value so it's it's pretty [54:45] significant but they're a little busy if you don't get a quick answer to a [54:49] question that's [54:56] I I think it's all over I think there's a few communities that have a little bit [55:01] more activity so teres is one Springs uh we've had a lot of at City [55:09] View and then all that been a few yeah so it's [55:14] kind of it's kind of scattered but in these [55:19] prly um so looking at facilities of course I've mentioned the community [55:24] center hbac making Town Hall has also [55:29] H people [55:33] back um but hopefully we'll get that all taken care of the repair was complete [55:38] but now apparently we're to come back adjustments the community center in [55:43] addition to the renovations or improvements we're also doing clean you [55:47] know we for many many years stuff has been stored in that building Corners [55:52] that we didn't even know existed and so now we're having to go C that and so [55:57] it's been a bigger job than we expected some of it recycle some of it have to [56:01] Surplus some of it you donate or get so you have to go through the process of [56:06] figuring out what to do with all you will continue to maintain a [56:11] portion of the basement [56:16] at theat go awayer appar and um I don't know if it's [56:22] gone yet it's gone pluging away um our chief has been on it [56:29] trying to take care of a lot of these vehicles that been hanging [56:41] around the basement renovation is nearing completion I think it's going to [56:45] be completed this month what I was told [56:51] so St water and parks for St water of course it's the Church Road [56:56] that is to begin next week and we expect it to take 10 to 20 days we've approved [57:01] the Lake toown Lane easement PL for storm water so this um the rental [57:07] Community uh is doing some storm water improvements it's located in the town [57:11] public road so we [57:16] to to a access for construction but also forward [57:23] so the rental Community even though it will be they're going to maintain this [57:29] pce uh that PRS to begin soon from what I understand they're Hing toed sooner [57:36] than later and we're going to follow as soon as possible theref with I put it's [57:46] really we want to get it we just want to make [57:52] [Music] so for Parks um subber line restrooms of [58:00] course we need to adopt our current budget because we have budget money tied [58:03] up um forine rests for next year this next fisc year so we're looking forward [58:09] getting that project under way once the funding is secur we're going to do the [58:13] final revisions to the master plan construction the community G community [58:19] garden agreement was shared with the wood dep Department group that's the [58:24] plan to updates the park with the community [58:30] garden they have reached out and are working now withp cities which [58:35] is andity [58:43] insur so in the police department um recruitment efforts are ongoing I think [58:48] when I wrote this slide or I slide Oneal offer I think that's signed we [58:56] on Bo excited about sopping [59:02] away evidence room inventory and of course modernization the pack mentioned [59:07] earlier that is underway I believe the evidence room is going to be wrapped up [59:11] in the next month we we hope to have the that we hope to our Target date is first [59:17] of the month but with the construction and such down there it slows down [59:23] considerably it's also um the are working on that Al responsibilities so [59:28] if we could them at it and do nothing about that um we be done much sooner but [59:33] they have to break it up Tak um but that will be wrapping up here [59:39] soon speed control signage so Council has seen our Mobile sign it's been [59:45] relocated now off property It's Kind out in community being used we do also have [59:49] the two fixed signs that will be installed along Highway 21 dve but we [59:54] have to work with the the location and then they [1:00:02] also and then lastly I have a couple special recognition of officers now we [1:00:08] really our Police Department were very fond of all of our officers that do a [1:00:12] wonderful job very great as day but every once in a while we have something [1:00:17] that's really special and that we want to share and so a couple special Lo and [1:00:23] so the first is officer if you don't mind standing um Ian was named officer [1:00:31] of the year and I don't normally read from this but I want to make sure I [1:00:35] Capt um this award is presented to an officer through a secret bid vote by all [1:00:40] of our wood officers to recognized exceptional it honors those who have [1:00:44] gone above and beyond the requirements of their position or have demonstrated [1:00:48] Exemplar actions in duties deserving of recognition by their peers and [1:00:53] supervisors within the preceding calendar year for their service to the [1:00:57] department and officer Bradley was selected by his [1:01:01] PE for exemplifying the core values of the police department dedication [1:01:06] integrity and service in addition to receiving the office of year award also [1:01:11] received two Excellency Service Awards for his quick and effective action [1:01:16] addressing s public safety matter and for going above and beyond in assisting [1:01:20] residents with matter two different actions refed on the [1:01:26] department in the town and very [1:01:37] proud so before we move on to the next recognition um I mentioned that you [1:01:42] received two excellence and Service Awards and so the Excellence and service [1:01:46] award program was established last year to recognize Town employees for [1:01:50] exceptional exceptional work to a onetime financial award for specific [1:01:56] so somebody does something very special and unique and exceptional we want to [1:02:01] recognize the program's been welled well used issue 29 Awards to different staff [1:02:07] members across multiple Department some of these awards are small doll some of [1:02:11] them are lar just there are different categories and levels of award and [1:02:16] anyone can nominate any other staff member where they feel recognition it's [1:02:21] not just supervisors nominating their their staff you can [1:02:26] nominate a coworker you can nominate somebody in department and we [1:02:31] have um one of the highest levels of recognitions for an employee [1:02:35] demonstrates extraordinary heroism and that LE it to my next recogition [1:02:40] so you know whenever you do these kinds of policies these kinds of programs [1:02:45] there's always that category that really high category that you know you could go [1:02:49] your entire professional and never recognize anybody [1:02:56] is [1:03:03] heroism so I want to introduce Sergeant Jos the day after our first annual wood [1:03:10] dinner we had a series of heavy rain events that caused officers to be [1:03:13] dispatched in multiple accidents one of these accidents resulted in an [1:03:19] overturned car in the creek behind the hot spot near ex 23 the creek was [1:03:23] carrying an exceptionally High volum water and the car was on side dri [1:03:29] standing but unable to [1:03:32] exits officers monitor the situation waiting for the Swift water res to [1:03:36] arrive however just as the team arrived on the scene and Was preparing the car [1:03:42] started to move and so starting to kind of [1:03:46] TI um Sergeant acted quickly jumped into the creek using a fallen tree to reach [1:03:52] the other of man securing him in a life bu and helping [1:03:57] um we'll never know what might have happened if Josh had act did but we do [1:04:03] know that the dri alive today Sergeant action water teams time to [1:04:13] prepare so you might not be able to see we're sitting but Josh is in [1:04:22] boot Ser thank you that's awesome so this this is an injury that's the result [1:04:29] of debris pinning his leg against or underwater while he's in the [1:04:34] water so these water situations are very dangerous situations [1:04:41] and would not have been wrong to stand by and continue to monitor the situation [1:04:46] and not um this is a Jud call it's a [1:04:50] judgment our officers and other officers have to make from time to time very J [1:04:56] for upholding the value of protecting and serving thej isn't wor it is and can [1:05:12] be next time I do pictures I had a feeling if I tried to [1:05:19] get a [1:05:21] [Music] [1:05:24] picture I'm really [1:05:29] happy and that concludes my thank you very much questions from [1:05:35] any Council that W okay thank you [1:05:42] a [1:05:49] that's all right [1:05:53] Bud Okay so um tonight we present the proposed FY [1:05:59] 2025 fiscal budget for the town of woodon um all the council members have [1:06:05] participated in three budget work sessions uh March uh April and May of [1:06:13] this year and um I I appreciate all your attention and time and commitment [1:06:21] to budget for next year in your packet you have a copy of [1:06:29] Shannon's budget letter explaining many Val that we discuss tonight and also the [1:06:35] proposed budget ordinance for the next fisal [1:06:39] year uh the budget fy2 total [1:06:47] 84763 that includes a fund balance appropriation of 8496 [1:06:53] [Music] and we'll talk about in just a moment [1:06:59] specifically why that was necessary as far as expansion budget [1:07:03] what we first I'd like to go over some of the accomplishments from the current [1:07:08] fisal year um the last few years been really busy this year was no exception [1:07:14] and I think we have a lot of accomplishments that deserve some [1:07:18] recognition the town um over the course of the last several years worked on the [1:07:24] with together plan that plan was completed and approved by this Council [1:07:30] so um we're very happy to have that uh as a guide for the U Town Direction in [1:07:39] the next few years we completed the town hallil study to help us identify s and [1:07:46] exactly what direction we wanted to head with the town hall replacement [1:07:52] project uh we completed the water mapping assessment and initiated a list [1:08:00] of high priority repairs and items that and talk [1:08:05] about way we constructed the fin construction on the Public Works salt [1:08:11] shed to replace the old shed uh we negotiated a new health insurance uh [1:08:17] package for the town employees that Prov savings to the town and expens [1:08:26] that have depend covered under our health plans that they pay a lot of cost [1:08:34] for uh we negotiated and work with the board [1:08:41] on from their operations we contined uh working on the [1:08:48] wh green blueway project we're very excited about the um the start of [1:08:55] construction on the wave and the park and the near future and so have made a [1:09:00] lot of progress with with that project we completed a lease agreement for with [1:09:07] the school for Community Center and think that will be great use for that [1:09:12] facility Andes and our commun that um to use [1:09:18] their services for educating children we completed [1:09:23] a we established to create Community gain space at Park which um will be a [1:09:30] great asset for the residents we um participated in the successful [1:09:36] resolution of the Robinhood development land use case that this year so um very [1:09:45] happy about that and secur grant funding for the [1:09:50] we with Greenway feasibility stud w b and indrian plan um that has already [1:10:00] picked off and then um re establish that's a lot of um accom for [1:10:09] this year to yes I'd like to make a comment a compliment I was fortunate [1:10:15] enough to attend a meeting of several seven local area Mayors and as soon as [1:10:20] we sat down they on the T me even ex manhammer said I'd love jobs with you [1:10:26] and several of the other Mayors said yeah what's going on in Wood everybody [1:10:30] everything seems to be happening in Woodin these days and I told him Mr [1:10:34] because we got the better staff in the police department in the area that's [1:10:38] exactly why and I believe that so thank [1:10:43] you uh the budget is consists of it consist of revenues and expenses um [1:10:48] revenue on the revenue side um this slide kind of shows you the patter of [1:10:56] Revenue received over the last five years we we've had a pretty steady [1:11:01] increase year year U this year and the year before not so not so much of growth [1:11:10] as we saw right after um but still steady uh strong [1:11:16] increases in Revenue major sources of revenue in in our budget are property [1:11:21] taxes and and sales tax and then a few other things that I'll highlight [1:11:28] on the um property tax side we are asking in the budget to hold the [1:11:34] property tax rate steady at 33 for another year you all are aware that next [1:11:40] year is reevaluation here so you'll have some some hard decisions to make [1:11:45] regarding Sal and we will provide a lot of information for you on that as we go [1:11:50] into our budget workshops next year on the offers and those [1:11:56] um everything's available do that for this FIS Year we're asking to hold [1:12:01] the tax rate [1:12:06] at each ta [1:12:11] also generates about [1:12:15] $121,000 of Revenue at current assessment value in [1:12:20] town uh you can expect that to grow a little bit over the next year mention [1:12:25] ear that we [1:12:30] [Music] devel [1:12:37] tax [1:12:44] to, an example of how that would affect typical residents and Woodin uh [1:12:51] the Medan house sales PR is is in the mid 50s today but um I pull out this [1:12:59] slide that we used updated the current tax rate on a $300,000 home the resent [1:13:08] would pay a total of [1:13:11] $2,817 sales tax 49.8 go to [1:13:18] County 33 and then fire district is 5 who sets the fire [1:13:29] district the fire district proposes that their [1:13:39] count that's a number of fire district districts within the town of wood so [1:13:44] there are multiple scenarios of this but most of our resal [1:14:03] 339 sales and use tax is the second highest revenue that supports Town [1:14:09] operations and provided this slide just to sort of give you an idea five years [1:14:14] ago we were a little less than a million dollar a year sales tax [1:14:19] 995,000 next year we're projecting to get 2,500,000 so there's [1:14:27] been a lot of growth in over the last um 5 [1:14:31] years population wise and and also [1:14:36] um businesses and tourist in the area that [1:14:43] purchase um that's [1:14:48] distribut um for several years after Co 202 2021 [1:14:56] we saw exord growth in the sales tax revenue that's really slowed down a very [1:15:03] minimal growth over last year this year we be right our budget for this year and [1:15:09] we projected a very small increase for next [1:15:14] year I'm curious about the in March is that December collections I I put that [1:15:21] on there because it's kind of interesting to see we reive sales tax [1:15:25] monthly so we can we can kind of show where we were each month collection [1:15:31] marks there I think you know that's there's a lot of spring break travel in [1:15:36] March and people spending money on um holidays and things of that nature is [1:15:44] what I believe up in March we always see a decline in May and then goes back up [1:15:50] in so um I find those things with that kind [1:15:57] of so far this yearely [1:16:06] the so um in total we we adopt our Revenue budget by major source of so [1:16:12] this is our proposed budget for fisc year 2025 I included last year's budget [1:16:19] and our projected Revenue a reference and that also included [1:16:25] uh expansion budget column that $849,000 is the fund balance [1:16:38] [Music] [1:16:42] appropriation on the expenditure side you'll see a similar growth pattern in [1:16:48] expenditures from over the last five years the red in the last year [1:16:53] represents the expansion things that are not part of our base [1:16:58] operating budget year over [1:17:02] year and that includes the $600,000 reserve [1:17:08] we discussed several of our sessions to as we plan for the town hall project [1:17:14] that be a large project for town of wood [1:17:23] weide in the 600 Reserve ,000 Reserve uh money for a number of other one time [1:17:32] projects to includ the community garden Public Works Paving 50,000 one of the [1:17:38] sanitation trucks replacing small sanation [1:17:43] collection the uh some up equipment for one of our existing trucks Sal spreader [1:17:49] and a spr for in weather situations the police vehicles we have three [1:17:57] additional police vehicles add to our program that'll add an additional [1:18:03] $9,000 and then the code rision [1:18:10] for around $200,000 the two items in [1:18:15] blue are not currently in our budget that's the cost Liv increases at 4% for [1:18:20] all our staff members and the police department plan receive a um in April I [1:18:28] believe presentation on some requests for the police department to address um [1:18:35] employ and recruiting needs and um that's the dollar [1:18:45] amount general fund expend adopted by department so our uh recommended budget [1:18:53] for 2025 in the Shand column there at the end [1:18:58] and that also includes 39 fulltime employees one part time that's one more [1:19:05] than last year with having a school resource [1:19:11] officer for that ass we add that our [1:19:24] and impa I'm a more visual person so I kind [1:19:29] of like to see a display of where our money goes uh the largest is police [1:19:36] expenditures in purple Administration is in blue the public works the dark blue [1:19:42] and the gold and the lighter Blue Street sanation [1:19:48] and and then um we got pay 2% for County taxes do [1:19:59] all tax property taxes for to and then [Music] [1:20:08] um hope this you sort [1:20:16] of I we this last time um as far as the the consultant [1:20:24] being disp do you really expect it to be that [1:20:30] High I mean is there any way that cona less than that don't know so um [1:20:40] just that number is just glaring to me so is there any chance that it be 70% of [1:20:47] that well it kind ofi so weily [1:21:00] and this [1:21:08] is we [1:21:13] [Music] [1:21:17] this a local person that does this or is a national someone out of DC [1:21:25] it could be so we [1:21:32] would and just people FS Ty probably you might have a local [1:21:56] r [1:22:21] [Music] [1:22:27] um I I also wanted to mention we have added a handful of Fe the schedule for [1:22:34] next year all these are planning of doing the umbrella and we [1:22:39] maining gaps in that we did not specifically have listed on our Fe [1:22:45] schedule all the ones are shortterm R are existing but quite a [1:22:51] lot of work goes into [1:22:58] um there is also [1:23:09] DET so in summary the recommended general fund budget for 2025 [1:23:20] 84763 we will uh holding [1:23:28] aing hearing your next regular schedule [1:23:33] meeting June 18th at 5:00 the public is invited to uh address a budget and and [1:23:40] talk about any concerns Sugg have on that meeting we [1:23:47] adver uh the public Hearing in the as Citizen Times I show [1:24:19] the last years we encourage the public that [1:24:25] and provid they have uh we have two so that's the general fund we have two [1:24:31] other funds that uh the town adopts a budget for the Parks and Recreation [1:24:38] Capital project fund you approve the budget amendment tonight in yourent [1:24:43] agenda um to budget the construction bids and that town has secure so that [1:24:51] that um updated bud reflected in your proposed budget ordinance and uh totals [1:25:05] 15,438 signicant of that is as you're all aware we issued General [1:25:12] obligation bonds years back to support a lot of project then Contin commit to [1:25:19] this community and general has also some of that we continue to solicit [1:25:26] grants and have a couple of big grants in the work that we to on [1:25:34] [Music] this the that was new to the budget last [1:25:42] year was the town storm water Enterprise fund it's our only Enterprise fund it's [1:25:48] a self supporting fund uh there's one employee in that budget and [1:25:55] um of our [1:26:02] Salud all the storm water manag we [1:26:09] do any money we'll have some Surplus in that fund this year that will roll into [1:26:14] that fund f baling water [1:26:20] um repairs capital or oper [1:26:34] it's super helpful [1:26:39] meeting any question thank you very much Wonder job thank [1:26:45] you okay new business orance [1:26:51] 202 request Town plan almost 1 and2 Acres [1:26:57] off the gold Marshall Road from transitional District [1:27:01] to AR 2 it's pin number is on the agenda I [1:27:05] don't any repat that may introduction [1:27:12] here speaking here [1:27:17] onine anyway uh as you said it's a 1.45 Acres uh it says on the tax card of old [1:27:25] Marshall Highway uh but as we move to the map [1:27:28] you'll see this is kind of like an island that's inside another property [1:27:33] that's kind of back from the back 40 of a large attractive land that's [1:27:39] surrounded by r21 so as the way orientation you see uh future i26 f the [1:27:45] center right of the screen uh all the red zoning to the far right is weille [1:27:51] Road uh that's CS and of course you see you hop the highway and you got this big [1:27:57] green r21 area uh that is actually that's about 100 Acre parcel that's the [1:28:04] campfire lodging track a big portion of that undeveloped and we have a couple [1:28:10] three or four little islands of land and the town I believe got this correct 28 a [1:28:19] donation and it it's really uh hard to get to I'll photos you'll see it's [1:28:27] really an island with woodlands and very steep um I walk went up there to post a [1:28:33] sign actually went with me it's very rugged it's probably more similar to [1:28:37] what you find in really like verant Matana or [1:28:42] Serenity than here that's transitional uh there's two homes uh [1:28:49] just to the Northwest uh you have to walk down in there that black line [1:28:56] doesn't really there like Trails or loging roads there's not really a way to [1:29:01] get in there to I can find so that's the context is it's very [1:29:07] ruged there's no water lines there's no sewer lines um a transitional zoning [1:29:14] District in this location the back um that's going to light on the map is more [1:29:20] like spot zoning so if we were to dispose of the property the town where [1:29:26] to pursue that aside this KN this know the case it would be good to have that [1:29:32] more aligned with what's already around it and limit potential uses so as you go [1:29:38] through a jewel Z you want to think about what can go in there is it not [1:29:43] just the my right the special use permits and The Limited uses r21 is [1:29:48] going to be one home say one home not sub any F [1:29:57] either can you confirm it does have an easement of some kind yeah there is an [1:30:03] easement I think Mar worked on some research sh too I think we haven't [1:30:09] mapped it we haven't had survey but there was an easement in the chain [1:30:15] title but it Tak a lot of more effort to get in [1:30:19] there but that allows it to be marketed it it does sounds like [1:30:26] it and as we said last month we do have a feature L map now so just as a way of [1:30:33] showing that M to you uh this live tan area that surrounds it is residential [1:30:39] too it's more of a low medium residential district or land use area [1:30:45] typified by Dex single family on larger lots and public ruged areas [1:30:54] see here on the bottom right kind of getting the sunny Ridge you know that's [1:30:58] a little higher elevation area as well so that kind of matches up [1:31:04] here there any questions so far I'm trying to go fast but it's should be [1:31:09] hope straightforward uh so just some [1:31:12] considerations when you're thinking about this track uh going to r21 would [1:31:17] eliminate the spot zoning of TR uh it would be more conducive to the [1:31:23] work development time if somebody was build back there cuz then there's no [1:31:29] water or sewer nearby uh the slope is 38 and a half% that's pretty delal steep uh [1:31:38] and outside of the fact that it's landl Ste sub fur you have to have one [1:31:55] and the plan board justment did review it at their April 2 meeting uh didn't [1:32:00] have a lot of questions about the track of the transitional District itself and [1:32:05] what how to get there with r21 they F Pur so they V in [1:32:12] favored [1:32:16] Z and sta with that just that sping [1:32:27] any other questions for me Rush lot of [1:32:32] presentations I have one for Shon do you have at this time can any prediction on [1:32:38] what a [1:32:51] Lis we' also like [1:33:01] questions okay no other questions we'll hold a public hearing it is 6:35 p.m. I [1:33:07] don't know if anybody sign the list it [1:33:14] doesn't all right is there anyone in the room anyone public hearing wish to [1:33:20] speak if not we will close the public hearing at 6:30 the if there are no [1:33:26] objections uh questions discussions of the chair a [1:33:32] motion and is there a [1:33:37] suggest [1:33:41] anyone I move to approve the resoning 1.4 acres as shown from [1:33:49] transition National district and interest is consistent with with [1:33:56] together comprehensive plan me to develop needs of the community that [1:34:00] request [1:34:06] one [1:34:09] respons ex [1:34:15] Services two protect Ste SL environmental [1:34:21] are thank you Council m second any further discussion or [1:34:27] questions all those in favor say I I any of those thank you very much as [1:34:38] usual any other business that any coun members want bring out work not U we [1:34:46] will move into obes adjourn to private Chambers to [1:34:50] discuss issues protected by code 143 -31 8.11 to consult with an attorney employ [1:34:58] rained by the public body in order to reserve our [1:35:02] attorney attorney and hereby is there a motion that we go [1:35:08] into ex session second all in [1:35:14] favor everybody will take a 5 minute break and to Second session