1 00:00:02,399 --> 00:00:04,960 is firing on all cylinders 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,080 >> to run that. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,920 >> Oh, yep. So, um, did you everybody see 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,360 the email that Ben sent to us? 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,240 >> Yep. 6 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,279 >> Yes. 7 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:18,000 >> Okay. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,600 >> Saw you read. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,960 >> So, Oh, yep. He's sharing. 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,480 >> I haven't been able to 11 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,480 >> I didn't really get a chance to look it 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,000 over, so I apologize. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,160 >> That's okay. 14 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,480 let me 15 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:33,920 just so you guys know, I won't be able 16 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,640 to see your faces here because I'm going 17 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,280 to try and get rid of this. Um, okay. 18 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,600 So, on this first tab that I sent you, 19 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,960 it's basically our standard uh budget. 20 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,280 And I know it's probably 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,520 uh it's so delicate here. Can you guys 22 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,600 see that to a degree? 23 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,600 >> Yeah. 24 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,440 >> Let me see if I can make it go a little 25 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,510 bit bigger. 26 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Okay. So, this is our standard budget 27 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,199 and what I've done is I've gone through 28 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:05,600 here to start us on our discussion today 29 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,720 and I have basically identified which 30 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,000 items um I'm going to call them fixed 31 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,920 costs. Um for the sake of our 32 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,640 discussion, um I know that fixed cost 33 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,520 has an accounting definition, but really 34 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,680 what it is in for the sake of our 35 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,320 discussion is is these are items that 36 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,920 the city is basically required to pay. 37 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,720 um uh it's it's items that if we don't 38 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,560 pay them there is a penalty, there is a 39 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,720 problem. Um and so I've eliminated them 40 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,119 from our discussion. Now that does not 41 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:39,200 mean we cannot discuss them, I'm more 42 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,200 than happy to discuss them if you have 43 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,000 any questions or desires, but I've also 44 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,680 gone through here and anything I have 45 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 established as what I consider variable 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,600 cost or something that the council can 47 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,280 decide whether they want to continue 48 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,399 with or not. Um even some words, you 49 00:01:56,399 --> 00:01:59,520 know, like council travel, uh mayor and 50 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,159 council expenses, uh council 51 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:04,799 discretionary fund. Anything that 52 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:07,840 potentially could be tossed out or not 53 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,000 put as a priority by the council, I have 54 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,440 eliminated from this sheet. Um which 55 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 brings us to our my second sheet. So, 56 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,000 what we're going to do here is go 57 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,080 through and each of our staff members 58 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,599 are going to go through and kind of go 59 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:24,319 through each item and share what they 60 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:27,360 feel um are the items that could be 61 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,879 beneficial to the to the city. Um just 62 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:33,200 so you guys have a full understanding of 63 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,599 how I asked them to create these lists, 64 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:42,400 these items are a massive wish list. um 65 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,879 any item that they can even think of 66 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:48,000 that may be a benefit to the city. Um 67 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,080 even if it's a fringe benefit, I wanted 68 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,640 them to put on this list mostly so that 69 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,400 each of you as a member of the council 70 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,640 who is not attending staff meeting or in 71 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,360 the building um would be able to 72 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,959 understand what potential needs are. Uh 73 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:06,239 there is a $200,000ish 74 00:03:06,239 --> 00:03:10,000 dollar discrepancy of wish wishes over 75 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,840 budget. So in this form here, you'll see 76 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,000 this top number $2.1 million. As we go 77 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,959 through here, so for example, if you 78 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:24,879 guys decide you want to input or add the 79 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,680 council travel to the agenda, if I put 80 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,640 an X here, this number will drop by that 81 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,440 7,000. Okay? So you guys will have a 82 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,040 very real time feel as to what the 83 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,799 current uh outstanding amount of money 84 00:03:40,799 --> 00:03:45,519 is um for the budget. So I think now um 85 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:47,519 I'll turn it back over to you Janet as 86 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:49,280 to how you want to proceed, who you want 87 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 to have start as a staff, and we'll go 88 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,120 to that point. 89 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,360 >> Can I ask a kind of a qualifying 90 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,159 question here? Um on on your other 91 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:01,120 sheet, the fixed cost ledger that you 92 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,840 sent out, um 93 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,439 >> the estimated revenues, 94 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,680 uh where where did those come from? How 95 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,560 confident are you in those? 96 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,519 >> Um for Chris and I 97 00:04:15,519 --> 00:04:17,840 >> Chris and I created this um they are 98 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:22,000 conservative numbers um on projected 99 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:29,590 from historical data. 100 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,639 It's okay. 101 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,199 >> Hey, 102 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:35,600 do you know how accurate we've been in 103 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,320 years past on that? I mean, so so far 104 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,080 this year, revenue is is looking 105 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,080 stronger than anticipated. Has that been 106 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,759 the trend? 107 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:46,240 >> Uh yes. So you'll actually see here 108 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,000 fiscal year 2023, right? 800,000. This 109 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,639 is just for the property tax element. um 110 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:55,360 you know whereas March 2026 and 111 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:02,390 projected 2027 is 1.12 1.012 112 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,280 million. So we've had home values 113 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,880 increase. There's also been a few 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,919 property tax increases in these numbers 115 00:05:09,919 --> 00:05:12,320 but typically Chris's numbers when he 116 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,759 started has come in conservatively 117 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,080 um so that we don't have a shortfall. 118 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Remember also we will be going through 119 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,720 and opening the budget far more 120 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,199 routinely and adjusting this so that our 121 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:28,720 balance our budget's always balanced. 122 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,360 >> In addition, mayor um maybe the for for 123 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,160 the new council members um who might not 124 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,600 know is that even though we assume that 125 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,440 everyone will pay their property tax, 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,919 not everyone does. And so the budget can 127 00:05:41,919 --> 00:05:46,960 fluctuate based on who actually pays and who doesn't. And so being 128 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,280 conservative and then if it if they 129 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,759 happen to suddenly pay then we have a 130 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:53,360 little bit more but uh 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,600 >> so you'll yeah so right here 3120 is 132 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,199 past you know year property taxes that 133 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:05,039 are then paid out. So this is the 134 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:07,360 estimated conservative estimate to 135 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,080 revenue for 2027 if everybody pays their 136 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,319 property taxes minus say 20% or 10% I 137 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,720 don't know that exact number um but then 138 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,840 it also gets backfilled from past uh 139 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:21,680 property taxes where people are getting 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,000 caught up 141 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,720 so it kind of fills that gap. 142 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,880 >> So I think um we should go to the three 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,440 yellow items. Did you did you already 144 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,440 check all of those so that we know what 145 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 we the variables the three highlighted 146 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,039 ones? 147 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:41,280 >> I have not. Uh I was thinking we could 148 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:47,520 have each uh staff member present their wish list 149 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,280 >> and then when we start checking things 150 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:51,440 off, we'll we'll start that process with 151 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 those yellow items. 152 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,199 >> Okay. So, why don't you go first? You're 153 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:56,479 at the top there. 154 00:06:56,479 --> 00:06:59,520 >> Perfect. Okay. Nothing too crazy here 155 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,199 from from my request. um council travel. 156 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:08,000 Uh this is predominantly our um 157 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,280 our Utah League of Cities and Towns um 158 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,120 training that we go to in St. George 159 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,720 each year. This covers uh hotels and the 160 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,039 fees basically. And there's a little bit 161 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:21,759 else built in here uh you know a 162 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:23,759 thousand or so for any ancillary 163 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:26,560 trainings that may pop up. 164 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,319 Um sometimes we'll send Carrie to 165 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,000 something. Sometimes we'll send, you 166 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,520 know, others depending on their 167 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,880 assignments to different uh venues or 168 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,039 different conferences. Um, 169 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:40,720 >> mayor, can we mayor, can we just um 170 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,639 reiterate that when it says council 171 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,400 travel, we're not actually being paid 172 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,720 for any travel. We pay our own travel 173 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,199 expenses. It's just for the conference 174 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:51,440 registrations, the hotels. 175 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,120 >> We even pay for our own meals except for 176 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,639 the sandwich they give us. 177 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:56,240 >> Yeah, we pay for our own meals. to pay 178 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,240 for our own travel, but that's the cost 179 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,199 to go to the conference trainings and um 180 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,680 so our registration and our hotel. So I 181 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,840 just wanted to make that clear so that 182 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080 people would understand we're not being 183 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,720 paid anytime for travel. 184 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 >> That is correct. 185 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,960 um mayor expenses. Um this $500 186 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,039 uh is used predominantly, 187 00:08:21,039 --> 00:08:23,039 you know, this year for instance, uh 188 00:08:23,039 --> 00:08:24,960 when we go down to because I want to 189 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,960 make this put this on the record, when 190 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,240 we go down to uh the conference this 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,880 year, um I will be using part of this 192 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,440 500 for 1 mil uh for the council um 193 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,680 which is a different we haven't done 194 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:46,320 this in the past. So, this will be a new thing. Um, for the amount we're 195 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,080 paid each year to do our jobs as council 196 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,519 and the number of hours that we're 197 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:55,279 sacrificing, I feel it is well within um 198 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:57,440 our budget to be able to take care of 199 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,279 one meal once a year or so. Um also this 200 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,440 provides a little bit of ancillary if 201 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,760 for instance I am doing any um you know 202 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,160 taking a a senate representative or the 203 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,640 senators or cong congressman to lunch um 204 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,800 looking for grants or things like that. 205 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,440 That's an option as well there. Um 206 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,519 council expenses is a very similar 207 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:26,080 thing. This is just calculated from $100 208 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,680 per member. Um, we use this um, oftent 209 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,760 times in somewhat of an interchange with 210 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,640 the discretionary, but we use this for 211 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,760 if we have uh, a member of staff, family 212 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,279 member or member of staff or somebody 213 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,320 pass away or another fellow city member 214 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 that passes away that we have worked 215 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,480 closely with, we'll use some of these 216 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,880 funds for sending, you know, flowers to 217 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,720 the funeral. um we could use these funds 218 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,240 um in any other way, hence the 219 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,640 discretionary uh that you guys would see 220 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,480 fit that would bring value to the 221 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,120 residents of our city. So that would be 222 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,320 my four items there. 223 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,360 >> Okay, great. Any questions? 224 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,760 >> Um the council travel went up 225 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,839 considerably over the past years. 226 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:19,120 Um I think they were around 3,800 227 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,600 roughly. just count. I think it's just 228 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,920 mostly because registration has gone up 229 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,200 and gas prices have gone up. 230 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,079 >> Well, we pay our own gas. 231 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:29,279 >> Anyone who's been in Yeah. 232 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:29,920 >> Say we don't pay 233 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,839 >> we don't pay our gas, but the hotels 234 00:10:31,839 --> 00:10:33,760 have gone up and the registration has 235 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,079 gone up. 236 00:10:36,079 --> 00:10:38,880 >> Yeah. Jody, could you speak to that 237 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,360 >> and more people attend? 238 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,800 Not the whole the whole council didn't 239 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,480 always go before 240 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,519 >> and some years already a couple go. 241 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:51,440 So this year, uh, the conference fees 242 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,120 are $400 per council member who goes and 243 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,079 then the hotels are roughly 280 for two 244 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:01,200 nights. Um, so that's going to right 245 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,800 there take you to, you know, by six of 246 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,880 you, you're going to be spending about 247 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,600 3500. That's your whole budget had we 248 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,800 gone through last year. Now, that 249 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,959 doesn't include the yearly conference 250 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:14,959 that's up in Salt Lake. You have a 251 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:17,200 midyear conference for Utah leagues of 252 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,519 city towns and then you have an annual 253 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:21,200 conference. Each of them focus on 254 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,279 something different. 255 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:25,279 The midyear is good because you get done 256 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,680 with the legislation session and they 257 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:29,200 are going to give you all the updates of 258 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,959 what happened. What do we have to comply 259 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:34,399 with? When do we have to comply with it? 260 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:36,880 And you know kind of give us the tools 261 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,519 that we need to be able to um do our 262 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:43,120 jobs. And then that annual one up in 263 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Salt Lake will give you more prior to 264 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,640 the legislative session and what bills 265 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,240 are coming up, which ones are going to 266 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,680 be important for your community to 267 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:56,160 watch. Um maybe even changes amid uh 268 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,480 legislation changes. We had a few of 269 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,480 those this past year. So those are ones 270 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,480 that are are kind of important. Then we 271 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,600 also have um occasionally land use 272 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,560 trainings that are important to go to. 273 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,639 Um some of those might also be used uh 274 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:17,760 for some of the fees for Utah Valley 275 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Homebuilders Association or Utah the 276 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,399 state homebuilders association and any 277 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:24,320 of those other meetings that you may 278 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,160 need to go to or register to go to 279 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:26,800 events. 280 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,279 >> Okay. 281 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:27,920 >> For those. 282 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,519 >> Thank you. 283 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:32,320 I think that's also, you know, we also 284 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,200 look at you guys are covering your your 285 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,839 travel and all your food. We have talked 286 00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:43,680 at one point to maybe cover um gas going 287 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,560 down or one way. Um so there has been 288 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:48,480 some discussion about that. That's 289 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,920 totally up to you guys what you want to 290 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:57,519 decide on, but it's a a number that uh is low in 291 00:12:57,519 --> 00:12:59,600 comparison to other cities. 292 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,399 >> Very low. 293 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,839 >> Um but it's something that I think is 294 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:07,279 doable and it's being fair. 295 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,440 >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I I was just 296 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:09,920 curious. 297 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,440 >> Do you want to just stay here and do 298 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:11,760 yours? 299 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,959 >> I just stay here. 300 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,399 >> Okay. 301 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:16,320 um administration and travel and 302 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,720 conferences number one. I believe last 303 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,040 year was 3500 and I believe the request 304 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,079 is to raise it by a thousand. Hattie is 305 00:13:24,079 --> 00:13:26,959 t or I'm sorry I'm still years ago. 306 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:29,760 Lori's taking on some additional duties 307 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,079 and there are some uh financial 308 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:34,079 conferences that both her and I should 309 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:37,040 be going to um that are being held. Some 310 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,600 of those registrations are around 400 311 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 again. And so to send us to one of 312 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,240 those, it's going to take that extra 313 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,160 thousand. That doesn't include any 314 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,760 mileage again or anything like that. Um 315 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,639 and then again, it's the yearly uh Utah 316 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:54,240 leagues of cities and towns. While you 317 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,519 guys attend your meetings, I have 318 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:59,199 recorders training that I attend. And if 319 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:03,440 I go to um SU 320 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,600 uh that's not is this 321 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,839 >> Well, it depends. It it goes around the 322 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:08,880 clerk's association 323 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,440 >> the clerk's association oneweek um 324 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,120 meeting I had didn't go this year 325 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,320 because of some other things that are 326 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,920 going on in the city but the 327 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,360 registration for that and it's a weekl 328 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,760 long commitment if we go same with the 329 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,040 treasur there is a week long one too um 330 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,440 >> and Lori is joining us this year for the 331 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Utah leagues of cities and towns 332 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 >> yeah 333 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,519 um and she'll go to some of those 334 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,760 classes that you know hopefully we can 335 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,519 divide and conquer and then bring back 336 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:38,160 all the information and share it. Uh, 337 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 administration books, subscriptions, and 338 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,600 memberships. So, this one includes all 339 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,720 of our um, registration fees. Utah 340 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,360 leagues, the city of towns, our Adobe 341 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,399 subscriptions, ESRI, 342 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:55,279 which is one we use. Ted, can you help 343 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:57,760 me on that one? ESRI, 344 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,519 that's GIS, uh, mapping for mapping 345 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:02,639 stuff. 346 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:04,240 >> Yeah. So that's all of our 347 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,000 infrastructure mapping for our water 348 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,240 lines, everything like that, sewer 349 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,519 lines. Um, we also have the new one, 350 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:14,639 Yapify. It does not cost us anything 351 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:17,760 this year, but in future years that will 352 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:24,550 have a little bit of a match to have to 353 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,120 » just 354 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,959 >> So that one's a little bit of increase, 355 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:30,399 but I I don't think it's much. um 356 00:15:30,399 --> 00:15:32,240 administration office supplies and 357 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,880 expenses. This covers 358 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,440 two computer swap outs each year. Um we 359 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,680 were only doing one and we were doing 360 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,920 them on a 3 to 5year basis. This would 361 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,160 allow us to do two every year. Um we've 362 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,639 got eight in the city. So we'd like to 363 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:55,040 get those on a rotation and be able to 364 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,959 keep those up. It also gives us our 365 00:15:56,959 --> 00:16:00,240 printer lease. Um, 366 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,880 and any of the supplies we used for the 367 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,839 building as well as any we use in the 368 00:16:05,839 --> 00:16:08,880 office. Uh, and I think that was just a 369 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,279 3% increase from this past year. 370 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:15,920 Um, repairs and maintenance to the city 371 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,120 facilities. This one I'm proposing be 372 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,160 um, 33,000 and that is an increase of 373 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,800 13,000 over this past year. Um that big 374 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,759 increase is to take care of digitizing 375 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:32,000 our records. 376 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,160 Um the estimate that I got from UCI, 377 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,880 which is the prison that does these for 378 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,680 us, was 27,000 379 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,079 just to take care of our records. We 380 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:46,160 can't realistically do them all in one 381 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,759 year. I know that's a lot of money to 382 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,279 ask for. So I'm hoping to do it over two 383 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:53,920 years. I can always do it over three if 384 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,360 you guys feel it's a little bit much, 385 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,320 but I would like to get started with it. 386 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,320 This also takes care of um we've got one 387 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,680 air conditioner. We have three air 388 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,520 conditioners in the building. Two of 389 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,160 them we replaced within the last 18 390 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,160 months. One we got by on a repair. We 391 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,720 know that at some point it is going to 392 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,360 have to be replaced. 393 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:20,799 So, um, that also probably will go into 394 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:23,199 repairs in the maintenance facilities as 395 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:25,760 well as any crack seal that we need to 396 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,319 do on the parking lot, filling of 397 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:30,799 cracks. Um, 398 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:34,160 >> possibly a um 399 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Oh. Um, seal on it. 400 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,360 >> Yeah, seal coat and things like that. 401 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,679 So, 402 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:43,760 >> Jody, does this also include the ADU 403 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000 access to the building to the other side 404 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,840 of the building? 405 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,000 No, it does not. 406 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,080 >> Okay. 407 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,240 >> I have had I have had several residents 408 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,160 talk to me about that. We don't have an 409 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,960 ADA access to come to council meeting 410 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,520 and uh attend in the big room. We have 411 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,760 one to the main office, but it's closed 412 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,200 during the evenings or when there's 413 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,200 special events or if somebody rents it 414 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,360 out. And so I did bring that up to the 415 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:11,919 mayor and to see if we could put it in 416 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:12,480 the budget. 417 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,400 >> And I think we can fit it in somewhere. 418 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,830 I you know we've got some uh 419 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,600 » and Diana says there might be a grant 420 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,120 that'll work. So that might be something 421 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:24,720 we can look into as well. 422 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,559 >> We need Diana on the grant committee. I 423 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:27,200 can 424 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,840 >> um administration computer software 425 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,640 support. This is our Pola system which 426 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,000 is our utility billing system. It also 427 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,160 is the one that helps us um do all of 428 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,480 our financials and it also interfaces 429 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,799 with our 430 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,919 um water uh read taking our water meter 431 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:48,960 readings. 432 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,280 >> Do we do we still like Polaris because 433 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,880 I've talked to a few cities and they 434 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,559 said that's kind of like an old program 435 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:57,360 and and they all have updated to other 436 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:59,360 services. Is this the one that we still 437 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,520 feel is best for us? 438 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,240 >> I have not looked at that. I know a 439 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,559 couple years ago uh down at the Utah 440 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:08,720 leagues of cities of towns I think about 441 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,400 three years ago there was some 442 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,080 discussion about possibly going to 443 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,559 Cassell 444 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,280 >> but I I have not looked into that. 445 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,080 >> Okay. 446 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,480 >> Um that might be something that we can 447 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,880 ask Lori uh to look into a little bit 448 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,440 more. 449 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,520 >> Okay. 450 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Um 451 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,039 then the mayor put all these things 452 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,240 under admin miscellaneous expenditures 453 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,160 and so we'll kind of um go through them. 454 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,360 >> Just cruise through them. 455 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,240 >> Just peruse through them really fast. Um 456 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,400 rekeying the building. It's been a while 457 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,240 since we've rekeyed the building. 458 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,760 There's a lot of keys floating out 459 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,039 there. Um we do not want someone to have 460 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:50,720 a key that probably shouldn't have the 461 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,360 key. Uh, we've got it's $25 a door, it's 462 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,600 $8 a key. So, the math comes out to 463 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,160 about $925. 464 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,320 At some point, we need to put funds away 465 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,080 or at least keep in the back of our mind 466 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,679 we'll need to repaint the inside of the 467 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:07,919 city center. We can probably have our 468 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:10,880 employee do it. Um, it might take a 469 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,640 little bit longer, but we still then 470 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,120 would be paying wages. So, that's a 471 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:16,799 rough estimate based upon the square 472 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,360 footage of the city building. 473 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,840 Uh, we made some improvements outside 474 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,720 this past year to the landscaping. There 475 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,240 are some additional improvements that 476 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,280 could be done outside, including the 477 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,840 bark chips that fly away all the time 478 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,360 during a storm that are full of um we 479 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,080 got those from the uh transfer station 480 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,480 at one time. So, they've got some bottle 481 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,240 caps, different kinds of things in it. 482 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,360 It's not really bark chips, but um 483 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,280 again, that's prioritizing if that's 484 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,679 something you want to do. Same goes with 485 00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:51,600 the recarpeting of the city center. This 486 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280 carpet is the original carpet. Um it's 487 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,200 held up really well. There are some 488 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,640 areas though where it's starting to 489 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,960 pull, buckle. We've had it stretched 490 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,760 twice and we were told that that was 491 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,679 kind of the last time we could get it 492 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:09,679 stretched. So there may be areas we do 493 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:13,440 at one time and then kind of uh do a 494 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,720 little at a time but that's something to 495 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,240 keep in the back of your mind. 496 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Digitizing records I already focused on 497 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,799 and the importance of that we've 498 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:21,360 discussed 499 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:22,240 >> Jody. 500 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,799 >> Yes. 501 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:26,159 >> Um is that number then up here in this 502 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:29,200 27 or 33,000? Do I have a duplicate here 503 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,799 on this? 504 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:32,159 >> Yes. 505 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:38,000 >> So half of that would be what? 13. 506 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,400 Okay. So, 507 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,120 >> I'm going to put 20,000 then here. 508 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:43,520 >> Okay. 509 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840 >> Right. 510 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,760 >> Um the mayor's talked about our front 511 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,760 mat and it missing um an A. It's 512 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,559 starting to also miss an L that's coming 513 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,240 up. I've used some super glue and 514 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Gorilla Glue, but it the L's starting to 515 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,480 come up. 516 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,400 Uh we have a fridge in the kitchen. That 517 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,600 fridge only knows one setting and that's 518 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,280 to freeze everything. Um Ted tried to 519 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280 have some salad I guess on Monday. 520 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,240 >> Yeah. And 521 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,679 >> started out as iced. 522 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:17,360 >> Didn't we talk about the replacing the 523 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,400 retaining wall? 524 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,919 >> Iceberg lettuce. So 525 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:21,280 >> we skipped over that. Okay. 526 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,480 >> It's not been on there yet. 527 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,840 >> You just went to fridge. 528 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,600 >> Sorry, I didn't. You did. You skipped 529 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,640 something. So that's why I just 530 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,559 >> skipped something. Sorry. But what the 531 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,400 fridge is one I guess because it's such 532 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,159 a big number. I really didn't want to 533 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:37,280 talk about it. Um, 534 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,640 we've been told that the retaining wall 535 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,080 on the side of the building here um may 536 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,919 be failing. I'm 537 00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:47,440 >> That's was a few years ago. 538 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,120 >> That was a few years ago. We uh probably 539 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:56,000 would want to get a a geo tech engineer 540 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 >> geotech and structural probably geotech 541 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,280 to start with to look at 542 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,039 >> to look at it and see if that's the 543 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:03,600 case. The bid we got a couple years ago 544 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480 to replace it was 80,000. 545 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,000 So that may be something to put on your 546 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,360 um radar as well. 547 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,559 >> Is that a safety? 548 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:13,039 >> It is 549 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:15,280 >> element. So if it is failing, 550 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,799 >> it's it's it's a big number, but it's listed here as a four or five 551 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,520 in priority. Should it be considered a 552 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,679 higher priority if it is a safety issue? 553 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:25,760 >> If we find out from the geotech and the 554 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,200 structural engineer that it's 555 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,919 something's 556 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:29,120 >> it might move up. 557 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,919 >> It may need to move up. Should we put a 558 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:35,679 sign on there so that it's a notice that 559 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:36,720 >> don't climb on 560 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,679 >> rocks? 561 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:39,840 >> We have Well, we have kids who come and 562 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840 play. I see them riding their bikes or 563 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480 their skateboards or whatever and then 564 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,799 we know in past years kids have climbed 565 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:48,880 down those to get to their friends. 566 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,760 >> And I just wonder if if that's an issue 567 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,360 if we need to. We haven't seen a lot of 568 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,799 that recently. 569 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,600 >> Okay. Um, 570 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,679 but maybe that has to do with the 571 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:04,559 demographics in the area as well. Many 572 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:04,799 kids, 573 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:06,159 >> just the Hillyard kids who live around 574 00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:06,559 here. 575 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,480 >> Yeah. And I figure, you know, 576 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,400 >> they're expendable. Carry on. 577 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,440 >> Yeah. 578 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,400 >> He's got spares. 579 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,240 >> What would What would a geote I guess 580 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,200 you don't know off the top of your head, 581 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,559 what would it cost for a geotech 582 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,520 engineer to come out and look at it? 583 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,799 >> One right now to see if he'll come look 584 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,400 at it with me. I think the initial 585 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,760 visit, he'll come and do it and just 586 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,559 look at it with me. 587 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,559 >> Okay. If it requires some analysis, it 588 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:28,320 kind of depends on what SDS, but 589 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,120 probably talking in the few,000ish 590 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:31,919 dollar range. 591 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:32,559 >> Okay. 592 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,960 >> Do a little study on it or 3500, but 593 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,600 >> okay. 594 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,200 >> But I'm going to text one right now. See 595 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,640 if you'll look at it. 596 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,880 >> Glad you have friends. 597 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,080 >> Um, this HVAC repairs and replacement. I 598 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,000 did talk about the air conditioning, but 599 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,880 I didn't talk about the heater. We've 600 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,000 got some damper problems going on. Um, 601 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,080 in order for us not to run the air 602 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,600 conditioner in the winter, I have to 603 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,440 physically go outside and shut off the 604 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,200 air conditioners. 605 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Um, because the dampers, I think there's 606 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,520 a problem with them calling for heat 607 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,960 when they're supposed to be calling for 608 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,559 cool and cool when they're calling for 609 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,240 heat. 610 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,039 That 8,200 is a rough estimate. Um, it 611 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:15,440 might also go towards um repairs on the 612 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,919 boiler system. Keep in mind that all 613 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:22,000 these systems are from 2009 614 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 when we started first constructing the 615 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,240 building. So, we are getting to that age 616 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,279 when we're going to have to probably 617 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:30,400 start making some repairs. 618 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,400 >> Time for the remodel. 619 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,799 >> Yeah. Well, I wouldn't say a remodel, 620 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:38,000 but at least um some annual maintenance 621 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,799 is what we're looking at. 622 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:44,640 Uh, I was asked some time ago to get a 623 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,120 quote for putting an audio system in the 624 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,279 large multi-purpose room for when we 625 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,159 have town hall meetings. 626 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,960 >> Um, we don't like our duct tape. 627 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,919 >> Uh, I have gotten criticism from people 628 00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:01,039 about our sound system when we do uh 629 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:06,159 those meetings and our um cameras. 630 00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:09,600 So, if the council chooses to want to 631 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,880 put a audio system in that large room 632 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,750 and the bid I got was for $36,65. 633 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,679 » Yeah, I think it's for that. And we also 634 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:22,400 rent that room out to people and that 635 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,840 for their own things, right? 636 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,240 >> Oh, with that we would not that system 637 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,440 would not be available for them. 638 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,960 >> Oh, okay. So, someone who's going to 639 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,720 have their own event, they couldn't use 640 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,360 the sound system. This is more of the 641 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,679 audio system that would allow us to 642 00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:38,000 broadcast our meetings and a few other 643 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,400 things. 644 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,200 >> It'd be like a secure Yeah. 645 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,960 >> So that's 646 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360 >> a lot of money for speakers. Yeah. 647 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,600 >> It's a lot of money for having a tap on 648 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,120 meeting. 649 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,960 >> I mean, if somebody did want to have 650 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,880 their own meeting and use it, could we 651 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,440 just charge them extra to use a sound 652 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,559 system? 653 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,320 >> That would help pay for it. 654 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,159 >> Yeah. 36,000 655 00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:04,070 >> each time. 656 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,440 » I don't know. I just think that we could 657 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,159 consider it because I think it out more 658 00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:10,240 if if people would be able to have a 659 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,440 multi-purpose room. 660 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,640 >> It's not that kind of sound system 661 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,120 though. 662 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,039 >> Yeah. Not that kind of system at all. 663 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:16,960 This is just to hook up with creating a 664 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,400 Zoom connection or the team's equivalent 665 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,240 in that room. 666 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,880 >> Oh, live stream. 667 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,880 >> What did this thing cost us? 668 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,880 >> Uh, this thing was $8,000. 669 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600 >> Okay. Just the speaker or the mic. The 670 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,720 mic set, right? 671 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,039 >> The speakers. Yeah. And the mic set. 672 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:34,880 >> The cameras were here previous, 673 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,159 >> right? 674 00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:37,520 >> Those cost us a lot. 675 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080 >> Cost us a lot. Yeah. 676 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,679 >> Cost a lot of frustration. 677 00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:43,600 >> In more ways than one. 678 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,960 >> They did. Um there has been discussion 679 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,559 of uh upgrading our audio system in the 680 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:55,360 council room to go from Zoom to Teams. 681 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,200 Um, the reason for Teams over Zoom is 682 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,159 we're already paying for a Microsoft sub 683 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:05,279 subscription, which um then would give 684 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:08,000 us our Teams for free. Our Zoom runs us 685 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,520 about $1,000 a year. So, if we upgrade 686 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,600 our system in the council room and go to 687 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Teams, it's one year of our Zoom and 688 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,440 then it's paid for. 689 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,279 >> The hard part is a lot of residents 690 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,520 don't have access to Teams and 691 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,600 >> you don't have to have access. It can 692 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,320 all be 693 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,799 >> it's it's all free. It's 100% free. 694 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,520 >> Not all have a Zoom subscription either. 695 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,399 And so they can get on and so I think uh 696 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:35,760 Council Member Rhoden can take care of 697 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,240 that for us. 698 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,520 >> I can definitely 699 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,159 >> Okay. So if you choose to approve that, 700 00:28:40,159 --> 00:28:41,279 that's what that was. 701 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:42,480 >> Okay. 702 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,159 >> Um a number of the uh city 703 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:48,159 >> uh Sorry, Ben, are you running the show 704 00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:50,080 here on the screen? 705 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,799 >> Yes. Yes, 706 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,200 >> you change that from audio system in in 707 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,279 council room to 708 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,880 >> because it's not audio, it's it's 709 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,960 meetings. Change it like meeting system 710 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200 or just put a highlight there. Zoom 711 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,399 versus teams 712 00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:06,559 >> meeting audio video system in council 713 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,679 room. Zoom versus teams just just so I 714 00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:11,120 can remember that. 715 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,919 >> Yeah, I see. 716 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:12,480 >> Thank you. 717 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,200 >> I have to do 718 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,600 >> Yep. 100 times. Um, next one is many of 719 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,399 our neighboring cities are going to um 720 00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:24,720 >> bulletproof glass 721 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,159 wrong there. 722 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:27,120 >> That'd be our mayor. 723 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,720 >> Oh, it is on there. It wasn't on mine. 724 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,039 It's 725 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,840 >> He fixed it. He He fixed it. 726 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,080 >> Yeah, it was built, but it's bullet. Um, 727 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080 the threats to city buildings are going 728 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,360 up. Um, 729 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,480 >> and city personnel. 730 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,480 >> City personnel. 731 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Uh 732 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,840 you again that's up for you guys to 733 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880 decide. This would be um the entry 734 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,679 doorway would going from the hallway to 735 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:58,799 the offices would be a bulletproof one. 736 00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,440 Uh, this bid also includes doing the 737 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,960 wall um that is in the entryway that 738 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,640 goes into my office as well as the um 739 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,240 glass that goes from the office area 740 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,399 into the waiting area. And then I 741 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:18,559 believe it's also the windows. Um, what 742 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,320 about your windows? 743 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,399 >> Line Lor's and I think Ted's window, not 744 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,640 the mayor's. Yeah, the parking lot 745 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760 facing windows. 746 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,440 >> All you have to do is have a 747 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,880 >> Yeah. So, that is a bid. Again, that's 748 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,760 >> there's no 749 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,480 >> We're not worried. 750 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 >> The mayor The mayor is expendable. Carry 751 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,159 on. 752 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:41,919 >> And some days my husband thinks I am 753 00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:46,870 too. So, you know, 754 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,120 » I heard that. Uh we right now we're using a piano 755 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,000 bench to hold our audio equipment that's 756 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,880 behind the wall where the TV is at some 757 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,279 point. I guess we want to sell said 758 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,159 piano and said piano bench with it, but 759 00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:06,720 it's really I mean it's a hokey system 760 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,480 right now. We need to put something in 761 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,919 there to hold on to that audio 762 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:12,399 equipment. Um some kind of shelf and 763 00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:14,080 things like that. 764 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,480 >> 500 may be a little bit much if our city 765 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,000 employee can put it up for us. our 766 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,799 public works guy. 767 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,240 >> You already say behind this wall. 768 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,960 >> Yes. 769 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,520 >> Okay. 770 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,360 >> Uh so we're looking at a rack system 771 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,399 kind of to 772 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:24,799 >> Okay. 773 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,880 >> Hold the uh system on. 774 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,240 >> Okay. 775 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,840 >> Um 776 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,320 here comes one uh that I think is 777 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,159 necessary for us to do and that's to 778 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,159 replace the locking mechanism for our 779 00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:36,960 front door. 780 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,919 >> Yes. 781 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:41,279 >> Um our door right now people are having 782 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,880 a difficult time opening it. Um, you 783 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,720 have to pull hard, you have to push down 784 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,279 hard. That lock needs to probably be 785 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:50,640 >> I think some of our older residents 786 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,200 probably can't get that open. Um, often 787 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,600 times Amazon, anyone who's doing 788 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080 deliveries, anyone who doesn't know any 789 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880 better to push down, will come and leave 790 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,480 and think we're not here, even though 791 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,720 there might be six or seven cars in the 792 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,960 parking lot. And then they'll call and 793 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,320 say, "Why aren't you here?" And I'll 794 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,159 say, "We are here." And, "Well, we can't 795 00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:11,600 get in the building." And it's just a 796 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,159 matter of that locking mechanism on that 797 00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:14,880 front door. 798 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,240 >> And you do have that little piece of 799 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,360 paper on the front. 800 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,440 >> I do. 801 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,840 >> Reading is hard sometimes. Yeah. It's 802 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,880 just a little bit difficult. 803 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960 >> Your report is just making us feel me 804 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120 feel like we're really ghetto here. But 805 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,640 um it's okay. We've got 806 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,200 we aren't. Um 807 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,279 >> city center building signage. We've had 808 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,360 some comments from a number of people 809 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,120 including the council about the signs 810 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,279 that are on Woodland Hills Drive, the 811 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,200 old signs that say Woodland Hills City 812 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,399 Center over here. So, 813 00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:45,679 >> the one looks like it's been set on 814 00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:47,360 fire. You can't even read it anymore. It 815 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,279 it's like all brown and 816 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,760 >> so scout projects. 817 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,679 >> Yeah, some of those um repairs to the 818 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:57,440 outside of the city center. We've got 819 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,480 some windows that are leaking. We've got 820 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,519 uh some siding that's come undone and 821 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,200 then needs to be replaced. And the mayor 822 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,480 can probably expand on that because he 823 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,440 flew a drone overhead and took some 824 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600 pictures. 825 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,159 Mayor. 826 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,799 >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, actually right there 827 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,279 to the west of you guys, that wall right 828 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,720 there is the same building material that 829 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,559 actually Steve built his home with. So, 830 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,399 it's a foam insulated foundation wall. 831 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:31,760 Um, and where it meets the rafters, it 832 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480 insets about an inch and a half. And 833 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,039 that inset has created a ledge by which 834 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,600 water sits as it sheets off of the 835 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,080 siding. And it is pulled and is starting 836 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,440 to fall through uh and flooding in those 837 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120 window sills. So, if you guys look right 838 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,720 there behind um uh well, nobody's 839 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,840 sitting there from the last time I 840 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,840 looked over there, but at that window 841 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,720 right there where Jod's pointing, all of 842 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,799 the window seal paint is bubbling. Um 843 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,880 so, we do need to do something or we're 844 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840 going to have a much larger problem than 845 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,510 $5,000. 846 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,079 » There is some things there. 847 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,159 um repairs to the inside of the city 848 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,520 center. Those are going to include 849 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,320 things like um we've got some railing on 850 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200 some garage doors that downstairs that 851 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,639 um need to be either replaced or redone. 852 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,000 We've got some um garage door openers 853 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,919 that are probably on their last leg and 854 00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,480 probably need to be replaced. 855 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,000 So, 856 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,440 that's kind of an estimate of some of 857 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,200 those repairs. 858 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,040 So when we say city center, we're 859 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,639 talking about the entire building, the 860 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,800 fire department park as well as 861 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,919 >> upstairs and downstairs. 862 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:47,200 >> Okay. Just to make sure that 863 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,520 >> I talked with Kobe and tried to get some 864 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,960 of the things that he has seen around 865 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,280 the building that could need repairs and 866 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,919 so those are included in this. 867 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:56,879 >> Okay. 868 00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:59,359 >> Um we've talked about a surge protector 869 00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:02,480 for the city center. Um that would 870 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,440 protect all of our equipment in the city 871 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,079 center from an outage. Sometimes you get 872 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:11,200 when you get a surge in the line, you 873 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:17,200 your uh TVs, computers, things like that all of a sudden will be ruined. 874 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,520 Now, I've heard that you can claim them 875 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 on your insurance if that happens. So, 876 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 we could look into our insurance and see 877 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,960 if we get a surge, if that would cover 878 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,640 any of our equipment. But just to give 879 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,400 you an idea, when we first purchased 880 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,480 this Zoom system, it was $65,000 881 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,200 for these cameras and the setup. We were 882 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,680 able to get it on the CARES Act funding, 883 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,960 so we got it through a grant, but if we 884 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,800 have to replace that, that could be 885 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,720 expensive. So, at some point, we might 886 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,079 want to look at that. 887 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,000 >> Well, and we don't want to have to wait 888 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,079 on an insurance plan. That's not a very 889 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,520 good idea to for me to say that we're 890 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,839 going to wait and because we need to be 891 00:35:57,839 --> 00:35:59,520 able to use the equipment the next week 892 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,520 after the surge or the same week as a 893 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,960 surge, we hope. 894 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,599 So, it's not really an optional, 895 00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,680 >> but these are all wish lists, remember? 896 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,359 And I remember we can't do all these. 897 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:10,720 >> No, we can't do them all. So, 898 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,680 >> which is sad cuz probably need them all. 899 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,839 >> Um, there was talk about replacing 900 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:17,760 lights in the city center and going to 901 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,640 LED. 902 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,440 >> No. 903 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,160 >> Um, 904 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,910 >> what's our monthly electric bill 905 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,480 » for the city center? 906 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,720 >> Um, it depends. Are you looking at 907 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,960 average? Because Just roughly, 908 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,720 >> I would say around 1,800. 909 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,720 >> Okay. 910 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,760 >> A lot if not all of the bay lights, no 911 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,760 in the fire side, but I think all the 912 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,280 bay lights have already been changed to 913 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,320 LED. Okay. 914 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,960 >> Um that was donated if I'm not mistaken 915 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,640 by Alan Wakefield and he installed them. 916 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,920 >> I think he bought the lights and he did 917 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,320 labor. 918 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,440 >> Did you buy them? 919 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,119 >> I did, but I think that the former fire 920 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:53,760 chief did. 921 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,720 >> Oh, Craig. Okay. 922 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,480 >> I think Craig did and then I think he 923 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,880 installed them all at no cost. Um, while 924 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,839 we're on that surge protector, 925 00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:06,630 we go back up a little bit. Um, 926 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,920 I I want to put in there, I I really 927 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,160 want to talk about putting a generator, 928 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160 a backup generator here. We are set up 929 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,960 for a backup generator, and we don't 930 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,400 have one. We did have an instance where 931 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,720 there was a call out during a power 932 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,240 outage 933 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,440 and the fire truck caught the release 934 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,119 rope 935 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,079 >> on the door. They released the door, 936 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:34,079 pushed it up manually. When the truck 937 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,000 came out, caught that rope, pulled the 938 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,839 door down in the middle of the fire 939 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:42,240 truck and destroyed the door. Um, but we 940 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,040 use we keep we keep our fire trucks 941 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,760 plugged in. um if there's emergencies, 942 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,480 if there's a catastrophe, this is where 943 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,800 we come as a as a as a council to 944 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,800 >> operate and so we need a backup 945 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,359 generator. 946 00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:59,280 >> We did get a bid on that a while ago. 947 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,640 >> We do have a quote for one. 948 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,160 >> It's 135,000. 949 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,720 >> 135,000 950 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,599 >> backup you're putting on wish list. It's 951 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:08,880 >> so I mean 952 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,040 >> now is that covering the whole building 953 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,440 or just the the emergency circuit? whole 954 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,079 building. 955 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,880 >> So, we have, if you look around, you'll 956 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,480 see red plugs around the building. Those 957 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,920 are set up on an emergency circuit that 958 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,760 we're currently set up to put a 959 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,599 generator on. So, we could get a smaller 960 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:29,200 generator to run on those emergency 961 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,119 circuits. In the council ready room, 962 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,920 there are some plugs in there. There's 963 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680 plugs throughout the the building and 964 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,480 downstairs. So, 965 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,839 >> the idea was when they built this 966 00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:39,520 building, they started to set it up. I 967 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,920 talked to Alan Wakefield. 968 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,240 Why? 969 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,680 >> We started to set it up for a backup 970 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,760 generator. And the purpose was is that 971 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,839 becomes this becomes kind of a 972 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:49,440 evacuation center if you will. So it 973 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440 could still run heat, air, whatever for 974 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200 especially the elderly people in town to 975 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,640 need a place to go if their heat goes 976 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,880 out in the winter, their goes out, stuff 977 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,079 like that. So the building has been 978 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,839 started that direction and that was 979 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:05,040 actually a cost for now 980 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,560 everything out so we could 981 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,520 >> the theund Okay. So I' I'd like to put 982 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,440 that on our wish list. 983 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,079 we're talking about. 984 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:12,880 >> You put it there. 985 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,480 >> Okay. Thank you. 986 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,720 >> Um 987 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,640 I thought about giving each one of you 988 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,359 these one of these chairs today. 989 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,760 >> So these are the chairs that are in our 990 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,680 red. 991 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,079 Um you don't when you sit on it, don't 992 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:29,520 worry. You're going to get black all 993 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,079 over your arms. We've kept them for a 994 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,280 long time. We still are can use them, 995 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,599 but it it does look really 996 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,800 unprofessional when we bring um you know 997 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,599 Mike McCuel in and sit down there and we 998 00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:45,920 apologize for our chairs. Maybe gets us 999 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,270 a few more grants. I don't know. Um 1000 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,800 but it would be nice to have some new 1001 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,560 chairs in there. So that's a wish. I get 1002 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,119 it. You guys can decide. 1003 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,000 Um, and then the final request is a 1004 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,440 water line in the old public works bay 1005 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000 to bring down to help wash off uh 1006 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,680 snowplow trucks and um the front pad in 1007 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,240 front of the city center. Uh you'd hook 1008 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,960 into the 1-in line that's currently in 1009 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,760 the new section, drill through this uh 1010 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,400 cement wall between, pull that in, and 1011 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,160 it shouldn't be more than that. I talked 1012 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,079 to uh John Wallace and he said that's 1013 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,320 more than enough to get that. 1014 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:32,560 >> So, 1015 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,320 >> okay. Do you want to cover the building 1016 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,599 one too since you're here? 1017 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,880 >> Building tool uh tools, books, dues, and 1018 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880 subscriptions. Again, this is our 1019 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,440 subscript subscriptions we use um for my 1020 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,400 city inspect where all of our building 1021 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,720 um subs uh permits go through and that's 1022 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,440 $1,000 a year. And then this would also 1023 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,359 cover any of our recording fees at the 1024 00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:01,589 county and things like that. 1025 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,040 Any questions? Any questions? Anybody? 1026 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,430 Okay, Wayne. 1027 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,589 Going to break the bank here. 1028 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,280 Uh, last year we had $1,500 and mayor 1029 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,720 talked to me about it and I think $1,000 1030 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,040 would be fine for planning commission. 1031 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,760 We use it for binders and we probably 1032 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,400 need to update some of our larger maps 1033 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,800 around there as a charge for those. So 1034 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,119 just kind of miscellaneous expenses that we go through through the year. I 1035 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:36,640 know we'll have some left over this year 1036 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,800 and it'll go back into general budget 1037 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,359 for whatever year and expenditures might 1038 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:44,000 be needed. So that's that's kind of 1039 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,960 where that figure came from $1,000. 1040 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,440 >> Okay. 1041 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,880 >> Does it cover what you need to be set 1042 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040 up? Right. 1043 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,960 >> Say again. Does it cover what you need 1044 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,119 to be set up the way you feel you should 1045 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:55,760 be set up? 1046 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,309 >> I think so. Yes. 1047 00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:05,750 » All right, Ted. Here we go. 1048 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,760 » It's not on there. I already checked. 1049 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920 >> Yeah, Janet already checked that one for 1050 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,680 me. So, I gave her my secret code. 1051 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,200 >> I have so we'll go through the fire. So, 1052 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000 I broke out. 1053 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,359 Are we going through? Oh, yeah. There it 1054 00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:22,960 is. Right there. It's called helicopters 1055 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,400 are now called PMPs. 1056 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,720 >> Personal moving personal projectile. 1057 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:29,440 >> Yeah. 1058 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,280 >> Oh, there you go. I like it. 1059 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,400 >> Um, so we'll talk about the fire budget 1060 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,319 first. Now, start off. This is not an 1061 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:40,240 increase from last year. Uh, this is all 1062 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,680 the wish list items, but it keeps us 1063 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,000 within the same budget we had last year. 1064 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,800 Um, so replacing outdated structural 1065 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,160 PPE. We have uh a bunch of sets that are 1066 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,160 outdated and I try and replace a few of 1067 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,240 those each year. Uh one because it's 1068 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,680 required by an FPA. Uh and two, it's 1069 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,200 also a safety issue to protect our 1070 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,520 firefighters. So, I put some sets in. I 1071 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,960 put some budget in there for some new 1072 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440 sets of PPE. We have a couple of people 1073 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,440 that are longtime fire guys that still 1074 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,200 have old sets we need to replace. 1075 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,280 >> We We've got a gentleman who was 1076 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,960 professional 1077 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,800 on our department. He's one of our 1078 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,920 assistant chiefs and his PPE is so old 1079 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,760 he won't go into a fire. He's the most 1080 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,240 experienced person we have and he won't 1081 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,680 go in into a structure because his PPE 1082 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,200 isn't protecting him. 1083 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,240 >> Yeah. 1084 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,240 >> Can you talk about the what does the 1085 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,560 expiration change on that? You know, 1086 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,400 what does the fire rating on your PPE do 1087 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,079 as it gets older? 1088 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,800 >> So, so a couple of things. One is NFPA 1089 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,880 requires that PPE has a life of 10 1090 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040 years. So every 10 years you have to 1091 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,359 replace your PPE and that's per NFA NFPA 1092 00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:49,680 requirements. Then it also gets derated 1093 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,760 on the temperature uh over year. So it 1094 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,920 starts out PPE will protect you up to 1095 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560 roughly 900° when it's new. By the time 1096 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,760 you hit that 10 year life, you're down 1097 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,280 to 3 to 400 degrees. And when you're in 1098 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,800 a house, you know, you're well over 400 1099 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,319 degrees a lot of times. So um but in 1100 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,079 addition to protecting our firefighters, 1101 00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,800 it also uh goes to our NFPA compliance, 1102 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,599 which goes to our ISO rating. And an ISO 1103 00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:13,440 rating is what insurance companies use 1104 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,960 when they look at insuring homeowners 1105 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,720 here. And they come to our fire 1106 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,000 department and they go through a whole 1107 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,119 checklist of things in our fire 1108 00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,040 department when they look at our ISO 1109 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,880 rating. So, we try to keep as much in 1110 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440 compliance as we can with NFPA um 1111 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,839 because it also helps our community uh 1112 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:29,359 with our fire department and their 1113 00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:33,280 insurance as well. So, uh so we try and 1114 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,280 replace some of those each year. Uh we 1115 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,880 also have some new wildland packs and 1116 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,079 shelters that we need. Um, these are the packs that our wildland people carry 1117 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:43,440 on their backs and they put shelters in 1118 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,119 them. That's the protective shelter they 1119 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:46,319 can get in when they're trapped in a 1120 00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:49,119 fire. Uh, we we have some that don't 1121 00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:50,640 have any. And then we've got some that 1122 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,000 are a little outdated. So, we need to 1123 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,200 replace about four of those. 1124 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,480 >> You don't have any? 1125 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,000 >> No. Well, we got a couple that don't 1126 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,440 have a shelter at all. And if you don't 1127 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,560 have a shelter, you don't go on the 1128 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:58,960 fire. 1129 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,240 >> You don't go work the fires. 1130 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:01,839 >> No, I don't cuz my son was a wildland 1131 00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:02,480 firefighter. 1132 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,160 >> Yeah, we've got a couple. They're new 1133 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,359 firefighters and we just don't have 1134 00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:06,800 enough work. So, we need to get some new 1135 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,119 ones. Lance used to have a bunch of 1136 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:10,720 stuff, but 1137 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,400 >> yeah, he's got some shirts he's going to 1138 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,160 sell the city at a really good price and 1139 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,680 that's included in you. We'll get to 1140 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,960 that here in a minute. Um, so then we 1141 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,240 have the replace outdated and new 1142 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,880 wildland PPE. So, we have some of our 1143 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,839 PPE that's getting outdated. Uh, just 1144 00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:28,400 wildland pants, shirts, boots, stuff 1145 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,800 like that, helmets. Um, same thing. 1146 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,960 They're exceeding that 10 year life. So, 1147 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,880 we need to replace some of that stuff. 1148 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,880 Uh, new uniform gear. This is our shirts 1149 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040 and hats and gloves, etc. that we wear. 1150 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,280 Uh, we buy this every year. We try and 1151 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,720 get a shirt and hat at least for every 1152 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:43,920 member every year because they wear 1153 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,119 their shirts out over the year. So, we 1154 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:48,880 try and get one or two shirts for all of 1155 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,800 our members to wear on um fire and EMT 1156 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,319 events. 1157 00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:57,280 Um, and then hats and shirts. That's our 1158 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,880 or sorry, hats and then our gloves or 1159 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,960 like our PPE, our our structure gloves, 1160 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,359 our V line gloves, stuff like that. 1161 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:05,920 Um, new battery operated ventilation 1162 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,800 fan. Um, this is something that' be 1163 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,160 great. We're trying to include in the 1164 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,680 budget for this next year. So, 1165 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,040 everything's going away from gas 1166 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,040 operated equipment. And over the last 1167 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,319 couple years, we've been able to replace 1168 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,960 our extrication tools from the hydraulic 1169 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,119 to the battery operated. And I think if 1170 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,119 we get the fan, that completely gets rid 1171 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:24,880 of all our power and hydraulic equipment 1172 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,319 now are battery operated. Uh, which is 1173 00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:29,599 great, which is how all departments 1174 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,200 operate now. So you don't have to lug 1175 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,720 around with your big hydraulic pumps. 1176 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:33,040 And 1177 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,520 >> so this is a fan for the apparatus. 1178 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,160 >> It's a ventilation fan use on the fire 1179 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,680 to ventilate houses. 1180 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,720 >> Yeah. 1181 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:41,839 And then we don't have to lug 1182 00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:44,160 around the big hydraulic pumps anymore. 1183 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000 >> Um 1184 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,640 wildland training packs. So uh sorry 1185 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,640 this is in shelters. Wildland 1186 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480 training shelters. We only have one 1187 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,920 training shelter. So when we do every 1188 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,200 year we have to do wildland training. 1189 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,520 You have to reertify as wildland. And so 1190 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,960 we have training shelters so people 1191 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,160 don't have to break out their real 1192 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,640 shelters to do our pass offs with. 1193 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,880 >> So we need some more training shelters. 1194 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760 Uh a new tick thermal imaging camera for 1195 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,040 our brush truck. We have one for our 1196 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,800 engine, but when we go on other fires, 1197 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,160 we don't have any in our brush truck or 1198 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,079 anything like that. We had an extra, but 1199 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,000 it's old and it's broke now. It doesn't 1200 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,800 work. So 1201 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,319 >> worth fixing. 1202 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:19,920 >> Yeah, it's not worth fixing. So it was 1203 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,200 better just to replace it. Um 1204 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,560 miscellaneous tools and equipment. This 1205 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,160 is just an item we use. I looked at last 1206 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,520 year's budget. This is when we just need 1207 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,119 miscellaneous things for our apparatuses 1208 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:30,640 that we run into through the year. 1209 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,319 Something breaks down, we need some new 1210 00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,880 equipment or we we have tools that we 1211 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,640 need to block. 1212 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,880 >> Light bulbs go out on them that those 1213 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,599 kind of things that we just do here. 1214 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:42,800 >> And then we also need a few more 1215 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,960 wildland tools. 1216 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,359 Um so those are all the items I've added 1217 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:48,720 into the budget hopefully to cover this 1218 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:49,920 next year. Like I said, it's not an 1219 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,040 increase in the budget. It's just 1220 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,520 maintaining our budget we had this year. 1221 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,319 Fire training. Uh once again, this is 1222 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:59,359 keeping within our current budget. Um 1223 00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:01,119 but how we spend that money on fire 1224 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,440 training is we go to winter fire school. 1225 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,960 So that's for all our firefighters. This 1226 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,000 is how we get our cuz we have to 1227 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,079 reertify every 3 years. Uh and you have 1228 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,800 to have 180 hours of training hours to 1229 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,400 reertify. So this is how a lot of our 1230 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,480 firefighters get those reertification 1231 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,839 hours. If we go to that winter fire 1232 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,680 school that's put on by the Utah Fire 1233 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,480 Rescue Academy down in St. George, um 1234 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,319 they donate their own time. usually over 1235 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:26,480 a weekend. Uh but we try and cover their 1236 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,319 expenses, their travel and stuff like 1237 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:32,160 that. Um and the school cost, 1238 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,880 training nourishment, 1239 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,800 that's to keep our firefighters fed. We 1240 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,559 use this several things, but when we 1241 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:40,880 have trainings, we buy little snacks 1242 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,559 people have during trainings, but also 1243 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,079 we keep in our trucks because sometimes 1244 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,079 you're going on fires for hours and we'd 1245 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:50,150 like to have things available. 1246 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:50,720 » What's that? 1247 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:51,599 >> Uncrustables. 1248 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,680 >> Uncrustable. Yeah. We're going to take 1249 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,480 what you call 1250 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,920 >> in the pockets. You have an uncrustable 1251 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,240 pocket. 1252 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,200 >> You included a fry. If 1253 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,119 >> that's enough PPE, I'll I'll support 1254 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:00,160 that. 1255 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,280 >> You're in the middle of fighting a fire. 1256 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,880 Pull out an uncrustable. Boom. Fire's 1257 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,280 out. 1258 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,640 >> Usually you have water left over from 1259 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,920 Woodland Hills days, right? 1260 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,200 >> Yeah. We We're out of water. 1261 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,319 >> We're out. You used it all. You got a 1262 00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:12,160 long way. Going to have to buy some. 1263 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,839 >> So we that's what we buy our water with 1264 00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:15,520 and just our our stuff that that 1265 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,040 miscellaneous stuff that we we fill our 1266 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,599 packs. 1267 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,800 >> Right out of uh Baldn Pul Creek 1268 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,240 Gatorade. So 1269 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,200 >> yeah, we've been eating bulb for six 1270 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,400 years. We've been eating those snacks 1271 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,000 and they got a little old. So 1272 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,160 >> we had a lot of snacks after Woodland 1273 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,760 Hills. I always bring all that water in 1274 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,520 and I just stack it in there. 1275 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,839 >> I let you put it where you want it. 1276 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:36,559 Check it. 1277 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,200 >> We've used it all. Uh gets hot in those 1278 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,640 trainings. 1279 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,800 >> Um certification, reertification. This 1280 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,000 is just made to resert. We have to 1281 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,760 reertify and certify people every year 1282 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,520 and it's a cost to us to do that from 1283 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,400 the uh certifying agency URA. um we have 1284 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,400 to pay anywhere from 40 to 150 per 1285 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960 person to get reertified or new 1286 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,280 certifications. Uh instructor-led 1287 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,119 trainings, these are when we have to 1288 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:02,079 bring in out of out of uh department 1289 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,240 instructors for CPR instructors 1290 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,440 sometimes get paid and stuff like that. 1291 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,640 We have to pay the instructor to come 1292 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,119 certify our people. Um we have a 1293 00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,680 miscellaneous which is just 150 bucks to 1294 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,839 pick up whatever I missed there. Um, 1295 00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:18,480 the discretionary fund, that one is like 1296 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,000 the mayor said, that one's just if you 1297 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,920 have events come up or something that 1298 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,440 you need to use some discretionary money 1299 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,680 for. I don't usually use a lot of that. 1300 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,520 It goes back into the budget again, but 1301 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,839 it's there in case we need it. Take 1302 00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:31,200 Senator McKel to lunch because he likes 1303 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,640 to go to a lot of lunches, I'm hearing, 1304 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,440 but so we get fire grants. 1305 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,119 >> If he's going to get us grants and look 1306 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:37,839 for it. 1307 00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:40,079 >> Yeah. But and sometimes we have that 1308 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,599 gets used for if we have costs with 1309 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:42,880 grant applications and just 1310 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,079 miscellaneous things. We use that 1311 00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,480 discretionary fund. Uh firefighter 1312 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,280 appreciation. This is our our dinner 1313 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,480 that we do every year for our 1314 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,240 firefighters. This is to pay for the 1315 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,160 dinner. Uh we also hand out awards and 1316 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960 plaques. Uh it purchases all that stuff, 1317 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,720 pays the catering and stuff like that 1318 00:50:58,720 --> 00:50:59,920 for our firefighters. 1319 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,200 >> It was just this last week. 1320 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,640 >> It was just last week. Yeah. 1321 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040 >> She was amazing. 1322 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,800 >> Um fire equipment repairs and 1323 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,000 maintenance. This is about the same 1324 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,079 budget we've had year to year. Um, once 1325 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,520 again, that that could vary just 1326 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,319 depending on what breaks down. Uh, some 1327 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:15,760 years we don't need much and other years 1328 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,200 we need a little more, but that's kind 1329 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,359 of an average cost over the years that 1330 00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:21,440 we've spent. 1331 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Um, 1332 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,680 >> that can get wiped out pretty quick with 1333 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,640 tires. 1334 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,839 >> Yeah. Yeah. Tires and sometimes we have 1335 00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:30,880 to fix the pump. And we do have also our 1336 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,400 pumps have to be certified every year. 1337 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,680 So, we have a company that comes out and 1338 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,079 certifies our pumps on our addresses. So 1339 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:37,760 it pays for our pumps to get certified 1340 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,599 every kind of stuff like that. 1341 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:42,240 >> We Yeah. State certification just for 1342 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,480 vehicles that we have to get done on all 1343 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,559 of them, that kind of stuff. So 1344 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,359 >> So fire fuel reduction. I broke this one 1345 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:51,280 down. Last year was just a lump sum 1346 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920 number in the entirety of 1347 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,640 >> Yeah. 1348 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,040 >> Just try this one here. 1349 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,960 >> I don't know what that one. So fire 1350 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,680 capital outlay. 1351 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,640 That one is a capital that was set aside 1352 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,119 to replace, I think, our siren towers 1353 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,440 and our other equipment on a 15-year 1354 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,549 term. 1355 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,400 I don't know what we budgeted for that 1356 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,400 in the past. 1357 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,800 >> Have you looked into uh what new 1358 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,640 speakers would cost so we could actually 1359 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,960 understand what is being said when the 1360 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,319 sirens go off? 1361 00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:26,000 >> Yeah. Then I did have another question 1362 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,760 on that is does that now go into 1363 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,599 emergency management versus fire? 1364 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:33,599 Yeah, that's a good question. 1365 00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:35,200 >> I don't see that we have an emergency 1366 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,040 management budget on here because I 1367 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,480 thought it was going to come under fire, 1368 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,839 but I don't see that on here. 1369 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:41,359 >> I think it gets pulled out now from 1370 00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:42,960 under fire. 1371 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,359 >> In 2023, we paid 11,220. 1372 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:51,680 In 2024, we paid 21,500. 1373 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,400 And then 1374 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,839 >> it's very inconsistent and I don't even 1375 00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:55,359 know what it's used for. I don't think 1376 00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:57,040 it's actually goes to expenses. I think 1377 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,559 it's a a capital fund. 1378 00:52:58,559 --> 00:52:59,680 >> Okay. 1379 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,359 It was a capital fund, so it should 1380 00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:03,359 still be somewhere in the budget because 1381 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:04,559 we haven't spent it. 1382 00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:08,000 >> We pulled those capital funds out 1383 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,760 >> into the general, right? 1384 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,280 >> So, we don't have that budget. 1385 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,720 >> Yeah, we pulled all the funds out of the 1386 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:13,440 capital. 1387 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,640 >> Oh, yeah. I remember that. 1388 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,000 >> And put it into the general and it's 1389 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,040 going towards roads, 1390 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,760 >> right? 1391 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,119 >> So, we really don't have that fire 1392 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,040 capital outlay. And I think that money 1393 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,480 that's in there before is very dear to 1394 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,680 years. It's just been pulled out, put 1395 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,160 into the funds. And my guess is it was 1396 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,119 for replacing parts on sirens. 1397 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:33,760 >> Now, do we go into 1398 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,280 >> Does that go into the emergency 1399 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,920 management budget versus 1400 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,079 >> And I because of the way we're doing 1401 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,240 things now, I'd rather see that come in 1402 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:46,160 as a um you know, when we when we need 1403 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,319 to replace it, it comes in as a budget 1404 00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:51,359 line item. We need to replace $10,000 in 1405 00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:53,920 speakers and and it goes up here on on 1406 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,720 the list. and and I'm I think it's great 1407 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,200 to move it to emergency management. I 1408 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,440 think it falls directly in with what um 1409 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,040 Aaron's doing 1410 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,480 >> there. So, 1411 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,829 >> perfect. 1412 00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:14,559 » Um so for the fire fuel production, this 1413 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,480 one is basically a category for our 1414 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,280 wildland fire. So this is the crew that 1415 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,800 goes out on the national fires every 1416 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,480 year and makes us money, 1417 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,800 >> but it pays for itself. pays for itself 1418 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,839 and then 1419 00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:27,839 >> so isn't this kind of deceiving if we're 1420 00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:29,359 approving 1421 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:29,839 >> the 1422 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:31,280 >> so we have to approve the budget so they 1423 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,079 spend the money 1424 00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:32,960 >> still spending 1425 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,319 >> and then the money comes in 1426 00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:36,000 >> the money comes back in to the general 1427 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,119 fund 1428 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:38,880 >> I just want that like thrown out there 1429 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,720 so people don't go wait what I thought 1430 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:41,920 it paid for itself 1431 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,280 >> yeah we actually made $130,000 on the 1432 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,000 program last year um so it more than 1433 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,240 pays for itself but we have to set this 1434 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,079 budget aside and once again this really 1435 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,839 isn't an increase in the budget 1436 00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:56,240 It's just to keep our wildland crew 1437 00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:57,839 budgeted for the year. 1438 00:54:57,839 --> 00:54:58,400 >> Okay. 1439 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,960 >> Um we just we need some new hand we have 1440 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,319 to uh get new PPE for some firefighters, 1441 00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:06,000 some hand tools for the truck, and some 1442 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,440 new hose because we've got a few hoses 1443 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,960 that got holes in them. Not great when 1444 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,240 you're on fire. They're in Nebraska 1445 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,440 right now and I think they're there till 1446 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,680 Saturday or Sunday. So this is their 1447 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,200 second deployment this year already. 1448 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,240 They've been on and they're full 1449 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,280 deployments. 1450 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,880 >> It's not looking good. 1451 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,280 >> No. No, it's not looking good. It's 1452 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,280 We're just on a fire in 1453 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,720 >> Spanish yesterday. 1454 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:28,000 >> Yep. 1455 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,520 >> We had a lot of fires. 1456 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,000 >> So, are we So, 1457 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,079 >> is Lance's stuff wearing out? Are we 1458 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,520 replacing? I mean, cuz he should be 1459 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,720 getting new stuff, too. Not every year, 1460 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,720 but as cuz cuz he wears it all the time. 1461 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:41,599 So, it's 1462 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,200 >> so far he tells me he's okay cuz he's 1463 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,800 had enough over the years. 1464 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,880 >> Okay. I just want to make sure 1465 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,520 >> again they they keep they wear out. 1466 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,000 their fire retardant 1467 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,839 wears out over time. 1468 00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:54,720 >> He had a lot. So, 1469 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,319 >> he's actually selling us some of his cuz 1470 00:55:56,319 --> 00:55:58,319 he's got so much of it. 1471 00:55:58,319 --> 00:56:00,480 >> Um, so we don't have to buy it brand 1472 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,359 new. 1473 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:04,079 >> Safety is paramount in my mind with with 1474 00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:05,839 those guys 100%. Yeah. 1475 00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:06,799 >> And includes lunch. 1476 00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:09,359 >> He's selling us all his yellow pants. 1477 00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:10,480 >> Not yellow pants. 1478 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,480 >> He's got green. 1479 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,000 He's one of the lucky ones. Um, so the 1480 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,720 fire fuel reduction discretionary fund. 1481 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,599 Now, this one I thought about renaming. 1482 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:23,760 What that was was the hotel cost for our 1483 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,040 crew last year. Now, it's all 1484 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,319 reimburseable, right? We get that money 1485 00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:29,040 paid back by the state, but all of our 1486 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,119 hotel expenses. All our motel expenses 1487 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:32,319 went to the discretionary. So, I wonder 1488 00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:34,160 if we ought to call it like travel 1489 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,880 expenses or lodging expenses or 1490 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:37,760 something like that. 1491 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,799 >> Travel and lodging 1492 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:39,920 >> because I because they I just don't 1493 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,400 think there was a a better budget line 1494 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,160 item to put that in last year. So that's 1495 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,160 where it went. 1496 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,160 >> Don't they um they don't always have 1497 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,760 that? Like sometimes they're in tents 1498 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,839 and stuff, right? A lot of the time. 1499 00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:52,559 >> Yeah. 1500 00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:53,680 >> But um 1501 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,200 >> when it does happen, they get reimbured 1502 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,599 >> and traveling there and back too. They 1503 00:56:57,599 --> 00:56:59,040 get hotel rooms, right? When they're 1504 00:56:59,040 --> 00:56:59,760 traveling. 1505 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,160 >> Yeah. 1506 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,000 Yeah. We basically get all this 1507 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,359 money back plus some. 1508 00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:05,680 >> Also, keep in mind, and I know we do get 1509 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,520 the money back, but there's sometimes we 1510 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,559 have to float it in the budget. 1511 00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:12,240 >> Three months or so. 1512 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:16,559 those more from the Palisades fire. 1513 00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,319 >> So we've got to float that money. So 1514 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,559 we've got to keep that balance, right? 1515 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:21,760 >> Yeah. So that's why we got to approve 1516 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,440 these budgets so that we can float the 1517 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,640 money until we get it back from the 1518 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,280 state. 1519 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,240 >> Makes sense. 1520 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,280 >> Yeah. Uh the fuel, same thing. Fuel just 1521 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,520 depends on how many fires they go on. It 1522 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,839 is only for their fuel cost is all that 1523 00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:35,440 is. So there's not a lot of variable, 1524 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,359 but it varies depending on how many 1525 00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:39,920 fires they go on for the year. Um, but 1526 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,440 that's generally about where we've kept 1527 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,680 it. Some years we spend about that much, 1528 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,760 some years a little less. And then the 1529 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,280 equipment repairs and maintenance, once 1530 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,599 again, that's just used to fix our truck 1531 00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:51,599 or their pump if it goes out so they can 1532 00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:53,520 keep active on the fires. That's just 1533 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,880 kind of an average cost we keep in 1534 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,559 there. Some years it's more or some 1535 00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:58,000 years it's less, not usually much more 1536 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,920 than that, but if we don't spend it, it 1537 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,799 goes back into the budget and all 1538 00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:04,319 reimburseable. Sometimes the fire pays 1539 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:05,520 to if they're on a fire and it breaks 1540 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,960 down, the fire will actually sometimes 1541 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,799 pay to fix that equipment. 1542 00:58:08,799 --> 00:58:10,720 I have a question. I noticed that we 1543 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,559 didn't have anything on here in the 1544 00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,119 budget for chipper days on spring and 1545 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,200 fall. And I know we try to get a grant 1546 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,599 every year, but it's not guaranteed. So, 1547 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:23,839 are we going to budget for that? 1548 00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:25,440 >> Oh, it's under fire. 1549 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,720 >> Well, why wouldn't it be under fire? 1550 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,079 Because it's fire reduction. 1551 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:29,200 >> We'll talk about it here in a minute 1552 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,119 because that's an interesting one. 1553 00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:32,079 >> Um, 1554 00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:34,160 >> so do EMS. Are you gonna do the EMS? 1555 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,920 >> I can cover EMS. I went through this 1556 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,040 with Rachel. Um, so the miscellaneous 1557 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,640 medical supplies replacement, that's a 1558 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,119 budget that we've always had. Uh, not 1559 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,200 changing that budget, the 7500, we just 1560 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,640 keep that in there to replenish our 1561 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,079 medical supplies, which Brian actually 1562 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,559 does for us every year. We have to buy 1563 00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:51,920 replacement equipment when we use 1564 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,799 bandages and whatever. 1565 00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:57,920 So, what we don't get replaced by, we 1566 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,599 try to get as much as we can replaced by 1567 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,599 Salem because they charge for it, but 1568 00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:03,440 not everything gets done that way. And 1569 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,520 when things expire, 1570 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,280 um, obviously we have to replace it. We 1571 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,280 just had to replace quite a bit, but 1572 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,400 we've been running a long time not 1573 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,720 spending that much. We we've done really 1574 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,079 well for a number of years. So, 1575 00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:21,119 >> um, the medical training, this is one we 1576 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:26,960 did add this year um to it's it's in the equipment supplies budget, 1577 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,280 but 1578 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,799 >> So, how come it says training when it's 1579 00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:29,599 the PPE? 1580 00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:30,799 >> Yeah, that's because I probably didn't 1581 00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:33,760 copy I copied. It shouldn't be training. 1582 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,880 That should 1583 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,559 >> should be PPE. So, change medical 1584 00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:39,040 training to PPE if you go, man. 1585 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,599 >> Down one. 1586 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:40,559 >> Go up one. 1587 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:41,599 >> Right here. 1588 00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,079 >> No. Up up up up up. 1589 00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:45,040 >> The other up. 1590 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,960 >> Right there. There you go. 1591 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,839 >> I have a question real quick. Um, so you 1592 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:52,799 said that the fire budget wasn't um any 1593 00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:54,640 different than it was in the past year. 1594 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,880 Is the EMS budget different other than 1595 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,200 the than the ambulance? 1596 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,839 >> Other than the ambulance. I just I just 1597 01:00:01,839 --> 01:00:04,160 said that. I heard her. She said I said 1598 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,599 it. Other than that, 1599 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:07,359 >> I was giving you a hard time. 1600 01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:09,119 >> I was just wondering is this is this 1601 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,119 about the same as it was last year? 1602 01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:12,400 >> Went up a little bit. It went up about 1603 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,000 30%. I'll tell you why. We'll explain 1604 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,920 why here in a second. 1605 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,960 >> Um 1606 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,160 >> more people. 1607 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,799 >> Yeah, more people. Well, as as you know, 1608 01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:22,559 we've now getting we're getting our own 1609 01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:23,520 license, 1610 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,760 >> which opens the door for people to join 1611 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,280 our EMT family and get state insurance 1612 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,640 if they have no other means of getting 1613 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,799 insurance. We've had a number of 1614 01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:34,079 inquiries 1615 01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:35,359 >> and I think that's getting pretty 1616 01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:38,480 active. One of the things we also felt 1617 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,240 is and this we'll talk about the medical 1618 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,520 PPE. We felt like it's not fair to ask 1619 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,440 our volunteers to buy their own pants 1620 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,520 and boots 1621 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,240 um for EM for EMT. So, we thought we 1622 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,359 would add uh enough for three new EMTs 1623 01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:56,000 to get them a pair of pants and boots as 1624 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,480 EMTs. And also, they're covering shifts 1625 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,880 for us now. So, we run as as we've 1626 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,160 talked about before, we we have someone 1627 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,599 on shift 24 hours a day. And so, uh, 1628 01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,240 this just helps us 1629 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,240 also get more volunteers in our 1630 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,400 community and for to, you know, to 1631 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,000 expect them to have to come join a 1632 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,359 volunteer department, then buy their own 1633 01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:17,520 equipment, which I'm not that's how 1634 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,079 we've done it in the past. Um but if we 1635 01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,240 get uh if we can incentivize people to do that for for 1636 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,799 >> not that it matters 1637 01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:29,440 where it is but where do you do you know 1638 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,400 where the money is that we're paying um 1639 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,119 Dr. Meyers for and things like that 1640 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,599 because we do have some additional fees 1641 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:41,200 now that it it it's costing us more with 1642 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,520 our own license. 1643 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,359 >> So it's just buried in there. 1644 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:47,200 >> It's kind of it's kind of buried. We we 1645 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,040 cover that in a lot of the miscellaneous 1646 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,720 certification trainings and stuff like 1647 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,480 that. Um 1648 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,000 >> so that is another reason for it 1649 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,280 increases. We've got more. 1650 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,720 >> Keep in mind these are just the variable 1651 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,319 things. There's a few things in EMS that 1652 01:01:58,319 --> 01:01:59,760 are not you're not seeing here that are 1653 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,200 just 1654 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,480 >> are they in the 1655 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,000 >> just nonvariable cost if you got that. 1656 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,200 >> Now I'm not sure if we've got this one 1657 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200 in there or not. So we've got wage 1658 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,880 equipment training appreciation 1659 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,680 equipment fuel equipment. So it just 1660 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,240 comes out of kind of the general usually 1661 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,760 equipment supplies is where most things 1662 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,240 comes out of 1663 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,319 and we can also pull it out of wages. 1664 01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:23,760 You see our wages went up a little bit 1665 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,839 this year. 1666 01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:27,920 Uh but that was to help with some new 1667 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,079 people but also cover some of our costs. 1668 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:31,440 That's where we included that. 1669 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680 >> It's on this this sheet. 1670 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,920 >> So we did raise that up by about $3,000 1671 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,000 this year and that was to cover some of 1672 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,920 those medical those Dr. Meyer expenses 1673 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,880 and stuff like that. Okay. 1674 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,599 >> Um, where do we get to? So, training. 1675 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:49,200 Um, so we have uh certification 1676 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,240 trainings. Um, 1677 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,720 the $6,000 is normally what we keep in 1678 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,359 there. That pays for about four people 1679 01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:59,119 plus other certifications we have to go 1680 01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,920 to EMT school. It's about $1,500 to send 1681 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,400 someone to get certified as an EMT. So, 1682 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,559 we keep roughly around $6,000 in that 1683 01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:07,920 budget just so we can send new people. 1684 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,079 Sometimes we send use that budget. we 1685 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:10,880 have enough people to get them 1686 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,160 certified. Sometimes we don't use all of 1687 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,599 it. It varies, but we try to keep about 1688 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:16,079 that amount to certify EMTs. Medical 1689 01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:18,559 training. This one did go up. And the 1690 01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:21,280 reason is the EMT conference. Now, uh 1691 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,880 this is where our EMTs go get a lot of 1692 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,200 their hours, certification hours. It was 1693 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,599 in Provo, which was very easy for us to 1694 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,280 get to and from. Now it's in Salt Lake, 1695 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,440 down basically downtown Salt Lake. So, 1696 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,119 we've increased that budget so people 1697 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,559 don't have to travel back and forth 1698 01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:36,319 necessarily each day if they don't want 1699 01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:38,240 to for the two or three days. they can 1700 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,760 we can get them on some lodging up 1701 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,760 there. Uh some travel and stuff like 1702 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,920 that. 1703 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,079 Uh appreciation that goes towards our 1704 01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:47,599 appreciation dinner that we do for fire 1705 01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:51,200 and EMS new ambulance. Um 1706 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,760 >> will you reiterate we seem to have a 1707 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,440 false narrative out there. Will you re 1708 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,520 reiterate where the money is coming from 1709 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,119 for the new ambulance? 1710 01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:01,520 >> So the new ambulance we budgeted and had 1711 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,960 approved by the council 100 to spend up 1712 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,599 to $150,000 on new ambulance. The money 1713 01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:07,440 for this is coming from the sale of our 1714 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,160 fire engine. So Brian right now is in 1715 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,839 the process of getting our fire engine 1716 01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:13,359 listed, our second fire engine, because 1717 01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:15,440 we have two fire engines. We got the new 1718 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,680 one a couple years ago. Our old one, we 1719 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,480 just no longer use it. Uh we hung on to 1720 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,960 it for a couple years in case we saw a 1721 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,039 need for it. For example, if we go on 1722 01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:27,039 these EMACs, it's nice to send one 1723 01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:28,559 engine on an Emac and have one in the 1724 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,799 city, but those are so far and few 1725 01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:31,839 between that I don't think it's worth 1726 01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:33,280 the cost of trying to keep a second 1727 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,400 engine here when we could use another 1728 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:34,880 ambulance. 1729 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,079 >> And we're going to talk about selling 1730 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:36,799 the engine here. 1731 01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:38,559 >> That'll come up on a budget item. So, 1732 01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:40,880 we're going to sell the fire engine. Uh 1733 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,839 I think it's estimated $180 to $200,000 1734 01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:45,599 is what that will sell for. So, that 1735 01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,280 will cover the cost of our ambulance. 1736 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:47,920 >> Okay. Thank you. 1737 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,880 >> If I remember this 150 was an approval 1738 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,400 limit. It's not that that's not what 1739 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,400 you're expecting to spend, but it's just 1740 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,760 you want to be able to get the right 1741 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,520 engine or the right ambulance if it's 1742 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,280 available. You don't want to have it yet 1743 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,880 cuz it's a they they go quick, right? 1744 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,160 >> Yeah. These ones go quick. These ones 1745 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,599 we're looking at. Ambulances are hard to 1746 01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:04,799 find on the market. When you find a good 1747 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:06,319 one, if you don't jump on it, 1748 01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:08,319 >> you won't get it. So So the cost for 1749 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:10,160 this is being covered by the sellar fire 1750 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:10,559 engine. 1751 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:11,280 >> Perfect. 1752 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,839 >> Thank you. 1753 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:18,400 >> Um EMS equipment supplies. Um 1754 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,920 that's Oh, that's emergency management 1755 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,039 equipment supplies. I'm not sure why 1756 01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:23,039 that one's there. 1757 01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:24,960 >> Just to keep you on your toes, Ted. 1758 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,559 >> Yeah, that one probably should go under 1759 01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:27,760 It's probably been there in the past, 1760 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,039 but we probably should move that under 1761 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,559 emergency management now. 1762 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,200 >> Do we have an emergency management? 1763 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,599 >> Um, yeah, we do. 1764 01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:37,039 >> We don't have it. We just don't have it 1765 01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:38,880 on on these sheets that we're talking 1766 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,200 about. 1767 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,640 >> No, it's on the fixed one. 1768 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,280 >> It's meant I meant on these ones that 1769 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,480 staff is talking about. 1770 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,720 >> No, because he's this is wish list, 1771 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,880 >> right? But Aaron's a staff 1772 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,510 >> and he doesn't get 1773 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,520 » I know what happens if I open it up to 1774 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,000 Aaron man we are getting all sorts of 1775 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200 stuff. So 1776 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,720 >> it's not a variable. There are a couple 1777 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,400 of things that if we're talking about 1778 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,720 emergency management as I'm I'm the 1779 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,000 liazison over that um that we we in the 1780 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,520 past we have paid for our annual dues to 1781 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,640 what's called UEIA the Utah Emergency 1782 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,720 Management Association and I would like 1783 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,599 those dues put on that budget as well as 1784 01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:28,160 for him to be able to um um go to the 1785 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,240 conferences that they have and and the 1786 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,960 other items that they have um that are 1787 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,119 available for emergency managers for 1788 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:37,680 training and certifications and whatnot. 1789 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:38,480 >> So, we have 1790 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,880 >> those would come here. 1791 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,480 >> Staff staff. 1792 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,119 >> So, I just was wanting to make sure that 1793 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,359 if that I I was going to ask it earlier 1794 01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:49,359 if that was still if we still have been 1795 01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:51,520 paying it for those those years because 1796 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,440 I haven't been really paying attention 1797 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,359 of exactly which subscriptions and and 1798 01:06:57,359 --> 01:06:59,599 whatnot that we've been paying. But that 1799 01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,520 is um something that I wanted to bring 1800 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,440 to everyone's attention. There are a few 1801 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,240 things in that that should be included. 1802 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,789 >> Okay. Thank you. 1803 01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:16,880 » Okay, Ted, it's still you. 1804 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,240 >> Some public improvements. 1805 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,960 >> I can't see the screen yet. Okay, so 1806 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,920 roads, uh, public improvements. Um, 1807 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,520 streets professional and technical. This 1808 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,160 is money we pay engineers, uh, who do 1809 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,680 our designs for us to get bid documents 1810 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,960 ready when we have projects we need to 1811 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,400 put out to bid. 1812 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,799 This year, um, we were looking at a 1813 01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:38,480 storm drain project. Um, 1814 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,480 so we had a flood study that was done a 1815 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,920 few years ago that we got grant money 1816 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,240 for from FEMA. And in there, they 1817 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,760 identified about a half a dozen 1818 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,960 improvements to help with the flooding 1819 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,559 from our community into other 1820 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,799 communities. We tackled one of those 1821 01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:54,880 this year uh by doing some improvements 1822 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,359 to a detention basin. This is the next 1823 01:07:57,359 --> 01:07:59,039 project on the list, this East Summit 1824 01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:00,880 Creek detention basin. Mhm. 1825 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,839 >> Um so the professional services is the 1826 01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:06,079 cost for the engineering and then the 1827 01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:08,319 next budget item is the cost for the 1828 01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:09,599 actual project. That's what was 1829 01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:12,720 estimated in the flood study. 1830 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,880 Um so that would tackle another storm 1831 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,480 water project uh next year. 1832 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:21,359 Uh road supplies. 1833 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,600 Uh we talked about maybe combining even 1834 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,440 a couple of these items because there's 1835 01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:27,600 enough of them to get confused. 1836 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,239 Um, road supplies really is just keeps 1837 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,120 us in whatever we prefer our are uh to 1838 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,400 keep our roads maintained. Signs, posts, 1839 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,520 equipment, stuff like that. Um, 1840 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,600 crack seal if we have to buy crack seal. 1841 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,759 Uh, few things like that. Road supplies. 1842 01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:44,960 It's not really changed from last year, 1843 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,400 just carrying over kind of similar what 1844 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,640 we had last year. Discretionary, the 1845 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:49,920 same thing as the rest of the budgets. 1846 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,440 This is just to catch anything that that 1847 01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:54,319 we miss. Um 1848 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:55,520 that could fall under miscellaneous if 1849 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,279 we have to order something or 1850 01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:00,000 advertising or whatever. Tools and 1851 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,159 equipment. Um I think we can combine 1852 01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:03,920 that one with our supplies and just call 1853 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,359 supplies and equipment. Um I think when 1854 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:08,560 court was here, he liked to break them 1855 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,080 out a little more detail than I think we 1856 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,679 really need to. And I know that was 1857 01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:13,759 because different people different sides 1858 01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:15,679 of the building down there. So they kept 1859 01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:17,839 things very separate back then. I don't 1860 01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:18,880 think we need to do that as much 1861 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,880 anymore. 1862 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,600 Um, and once again, this is just to 1863 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,759 replace any tools that break down. It's 1864 01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:27,600 kind of a carryover item with same with 1865 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,839 the supplies. 1866 01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:32,719 Ted, can I ask you your professional 1867 01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:34,640 opinion? 1868 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:40,080 We've identified our flood zones and and our and our runoffs and we've 1869 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,199 already been 1870 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,520 not threatened but talked to by the 1871 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,199 county basically threatened. Um if we 1872 01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:53,199 don't proceed in some sort of planned 1873 01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:56,159 fashion with this, I'm guessing we could 1874 01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,480 be it could get us into some big pretty 1875 01:09:58,480 --> 01:09:59,840 big trouble, 1876 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:05,120 >> legal trouble. So, I'll give you kind of the the words 1877 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,920 that we heard. Um, there was some 1878 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,440 flooding that happened a few years back 1879 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,520 and it flooded a house down in they're 1880 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,800 actually in the county, but as you go 1881 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,920 down into Salem, um, they sued the 1882 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,440 county 1883 01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:20,159 >> and the county just took on the lawsuit 1884 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:21,679 and then they came and met with us and 1885 01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:24,480 said that water came from your city, so 1886 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,719 any if this continues, we're just going 1887 01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:29,280 to send them your way. uh you know come 1888 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,679 after you guys if you don't manage your 1889 01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:33,920 flood water. So that was hence when we 1890 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,440 got the funding from FEMA we did the 1891 01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,679 flood study fair how to manage our water 1892 01:10:37,679 --> 01:10:39,360 and now these are the projects that are 1893 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,040 helping us to do that. One of the 1894 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,560 projects is going to be completed by 1895 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,159 three bridges uh as part of their 1896 01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:44,719 development. 1897 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:45,199 >> Y 1898 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:46,480 >> they're actually going to do one of the 1899 01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,320 projects for us uh cuz it's a 1900 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,840 combination of woodland hills and three 1901 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,360 bridges. They need it. We need it. 1902 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:52,320 They're just going to go ahead and do 1903 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,000 it. Uh so that takes care of one of 1904 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,159 them. This is another one and then we 1905 01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:57,840 got a couple more to do. So this might 1906 01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,440 even be a one. 1907 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:00,960 >> It might even be a one. 1908 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,719 >> That's kind of my thought process on it 1909 01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:04,239 is that we could get in a little bit of 1910 01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:05,920 trouble if we didn't proceed with 1911 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,640 mitigation. 1912 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,640 >> If you Yeah. On the right you see staff 1913 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,320 priority. They're they're putting like 1914 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,520 how important they are. 1915 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,120 >> Yep. They got two. That's why I'm 1916 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,440 thinking it might be close to a one. 1917 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:17,280 >> We don't want to get sued. 1918 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,360 >> Yeah. It could be close to a one. Uh 1919 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,280 it's been that way for years, but you 1920 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,480 know, it's probably time to take care of 1921 01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:23,120 it. So, 1922 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,880 >> and we already put some money into the 1923 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,679 one that they did at the corner of 11200 1924 01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:30,880 and and lover used that basin. That's 1925 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,520 right. 1926 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,120 >> That's what he was talking about. We've 1927 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,080 already done the one. 1928 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:34,400 >> Mhm. 1929 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,320 >> Well, and we've done another one this 1930 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:37,920 year as well besides that one. We did 1931 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,360 one up in um 1932 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,800 >> that basin that kind of goes off into 1933 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,560 Elkridge. So, we were sending flood 1934 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,920 water down into Elkridge and we had 1935 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,920 detention basin that wasn't 1936 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,920 >> completely built correctly. So, we we 1937 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,480 corrected that one this year 1938 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:51,840 >> because Elkridge, same thing. They came 1939 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,280 to us and said, "You guys keep flooding 1940 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,880 Loafer Canyon Road." So, 1941 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,199 >> and the county is doing those projects 1942 01:11:57,199 --> 01:11:59,040 except for three bridges. We just pay 1943 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,199 our portion of it for them to complete 1944 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:01,679 it. 1945 01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:02,960 >> That one. These ones are all 1946 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,239 >> ours. Yeah. 1947 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,560 >> Um, 1948 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,360 so the streets general maintenance 1949 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,199 including the PMP. This is what you call 1950 01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:15,669 personal something projectile. 1951 01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:18,159 » No. No. 1952 01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:18,960 >> Personalized. 1953 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,080 >> Personal motorized. 1954 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,120 >> Personalized. Yeah, 1955 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,960 >> motorized 1956 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:23,600 project. 1957 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,360 >> So, this is the uh this is the phase 1958 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,920 three of our project management plan 1959 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,960 projects. This completes all the roads 1960 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,040 being completed with the exception of 1961 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,640 those that we have to replace water 1962 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,880 lines in generally on this kind of 1963 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,360 easterly side of the city. So, this 1964 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,880 completes that phase three. This is the 1965 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,520 one that we would bond for. So, it's 1966 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,760 showing here as an approved budget item, 1967 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,320 but it's also going to be bonded for, 1968 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,880 >> but the money that we would get for 1969 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,520 financing is also added into the amount 1970 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,440 that we have to spend. So, if you don't 1971 01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:58,880 approve it, we have to take that amount 1972 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,080 of money out, 1973 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,800 >> right? 1974 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,880 >> So, it's a wash. So, any of those that 1975 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,120 are in yellow, 1976 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,400 you you know, you'd have to take the 1977 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,159 money out if you don't approve those. 1978 01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:09,520 >> So, there's the revenue right there. 1979 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,000 That's the bond money coming in, 1980 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,159 >> just so you know. So that that's clear. 1981 01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:16,880 So 1982 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,520 >> So that's what that project is. Um 1983 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,360 vehicle repairs and maintenance. This is 1984 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,640 repair our uh like our mower if it 1985 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,640 breaks down. Our uh 1986 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,400 >> if Peterson breaks Oh, good. He's on his 1987 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,199 mission. It 1988 01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:35,199 >> it just our various equipment. If a 1989 01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:38,320 street sweeper breaks down, um the truck 1990 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,480 that totally fire or on tires, right? or 1991 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:43,840 plow trucks because you don't have plow 1992 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,920 trucks on there but that doesn't come at 1993 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,840 least plow that's in the snow plow 1994 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,199 >> that's in the snow plow okay 1995 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:51,840 >> so this is just loader service truck any 1996 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,400 >> yeah part of this the service truck 1997 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,159 toy's truck few things like that 1998 01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:57,600 anything that lawn mower or whatever 1999 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,960 breaks down just gives us some money to 2000 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,800 fix it 2001 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,600 um capital outlay once again I'm not 2002 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,600 sure where that was going even I'm 2003 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:06,880 guessing it was going into the capital 2004 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,320 budget then coming back into the general 2005 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,440 fund and now it's been 2006 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,679 >> it's we moved it to the general fund is 2007 01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:13,840 No, not that might be for the service 2008 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,239 truck, but we're putting money away. 2009 01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:20,159 >> Classy road maintenance that really goes 2010 01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:21,600 up in should probably go as part of our 2011 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,600 street's general maintenance, too. That 2012 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,840 is the we get classy road funds about 2013 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,679 100,000 every year. We get from the 2014 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:31,040 state that comes from the gas tax, the 2015 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,600 tax on gas. Uh our city gets based on 2016 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,440 our it's based on the number of road 2017 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,480 miles you have and we get about 100,000 2018 01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:40,880 every year from the state. And that just 2019 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,159 basically goes towards our maintenance 2020 01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:45,040 of our streets. 2021 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,760 >> Okay. 2022 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,640 >> Um 2023 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,400 >> you said we get 100,000. 2024 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,000 >> It's a little over generally. Yeah, a 2025 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,400 little over 100,000. 2026 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,440 Snowplow um supplies. This is just to 2027 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:03,440 buy miscellaneous supplies. Um 2028 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:04,880 we can probably combine that. Once 2029 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,320 again, Ben, same thing. Probably combine 2030 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,440 it with the tools and the equipment. 2031 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,840 Just make it all one. Um because really 2032 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,480 what we use 2033 01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,800 >> except forget to buy reflectors or 2034 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,199 things. 2035 01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:18,320 >> Yeah. Reflectors or replacement blades. 2036 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,280 Miscellaneous truck 2037 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,199 >> straps. 2038 01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:22,640 >> Isn't there something on the blade if 2039 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,159 I'm remembering? Like a little strip 2040 01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:25,520 that sometimes comes off. 2041 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,360 >> That's what we have to replace. It's a 2042 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,000 wear bar. 2043 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:28,880 >> Wear bar. Yeah, I could. 2044 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,239 >> We have to replace those every year. 2045 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,000 They're about $3,000 to replace the 2046 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,800 entirety of the thing. 2047 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,480 >> And they're just under the blade 2048 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,000 replacement as well. Or are they a 2049 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,960 separate one? No, under it falls under 2050 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,440 snow plow tools and equipment which will 2051 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:42,159 be uh 2052 01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:43,520 >> Well, he's got a line in here for the 2053 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,120 blade replacement. 2054 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,719 >> I was just wanting to make sure that 2055 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:50,640 blade the whole blade compared to the wear bar. 2056 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,400 >> It's just the wear 2057 01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:00,310 >> and then miscellaneous truck parts. Um 2058 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,719 that's usually just used for anything 2059 01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:05,840 that breaks down in the snow plows um 2060 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,080 during the year. Now that they're 2061 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,640 leased, you know, we might could look at 2062 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:11,440 the budget 2063 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:13,840 >> tires and 2064 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,560 >> tires, hydraulic lines, 2065 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,159 >> lights, electronics, 2066 01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:22,080 >> but that's also kind of in the supplies 2067 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,760 as well. So, I mean, it's it's a budget 2068 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,199 line item we keep in there. We don't 2069 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:28,719 always spend all of it. Sometimes we do 2070 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:30,640 spend, depending on our plows are now 2071 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,600 leased, so generally they're fairly new, 2072 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,960 so we just almost don't replace tires on 2073 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,440 too often before we give them back. 2074 01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:40,000 >> Um, 2075 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,800 >> and since we use the trucks for winter 2076 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,159 and summer, is the is the the budget 2077 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,159 that you have for both of them one's in 2078 01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:50,320 another spot and or is this for year 2079 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:50,640 round? 2080 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,840 >> Yeah, we don't use them a lot during 2081 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,400 summer. 2082 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,280 >> Okay. You're not using them for the 2083 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,520 that was part of I thought leasing them 2084 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:58,880 these trucks because they could be used 2085 01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,679 for other purposes. 2086 01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:00,960 >> They do have dump beds on them if we 2087 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,239 need them and they have been used a few 2088 01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:04,080 times for the dumb beds, but mostly now 2089 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,440 that we have the loader, we use that a 2090 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:06,080 lot more. 2091 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,840 >> Okay. 2092 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,679 >> Mostly just for plowing. In fact, the 2093 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:11,120 next round we go, we're probably going 2094 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,040 to get one without a dumb bed. Saves us 2095 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:13,840 about $20,000. 2096 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,360 >> I was going to say it's cheaper, right? 2097 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,320 >> Do we include the lease for the loader? 2098 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,159 >> I 2099 01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:22,880 for the loader. It's a fixed item. 2100 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:23,760 >> So, we did have 2101 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,120 >> Yeah, it's I made some notes off to the 2102 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,280 side which ones were going to leases. 2103 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,000 >> Awesome. 2104 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,229 >> And it was a fixed, not a very 2105 01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:37,679 » because it was split between roads 2106 01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:39,280 and something else. 2107 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,800 >> Water. 2108 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,640 >> Yeah. 2109 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,520 >> Lower right there. Lower service truck. 2110 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,159 So, it wasn't a principal debt interest. 2111 01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:52,709 So, it was not a variable item. 2112 01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:56,640 Ted all done and perfect. What would be 2113 01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,000 the annual maintenance? 2114 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,920 >> Um, 2115 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,159 that's a good question. 2116 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:06,080 >> Never had them all. 2117 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:06,880 >> I know. 2118 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,640 >> I actually had a resident ask me that 2119 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:09,920 question. I went back and tried to 2120 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,400 figure it out one day, another resident, 2121 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,840 and I was trying to calculate it because 2122 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,120 he had this very same question. I said, 2123 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,480 "Well, I don't have a lot of history to 2124 01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:18,560 go off of because we've never had them 2125 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,120 that way." Um, so I tried to come up 2126 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,480 with some numbers. It would probably cut 2127 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,640 our maintenance costs in half. 2128 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,040 >> So we've got some roads that are, you 2129 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,000 know, still almost new. What does it 2130 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,920 take every year? What do we do every 2131 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,040 year? 2132 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:33,760 >> So 2133 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,360 >> counting what we when we have to redo 2134 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:35,920 them. 2135 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,080 >> So generally what I Well, so here's my 2136 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,719 thought. Um, so like the roads we just 2137 01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:43,360 finished um probably after about it 2138 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,719 depends on what we did for them. So, 2139 01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:46,000 like the ones that we just put the 2140 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,640 slurry seal on, um, we should come back 2141 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,480 and put a fog seal over those here in a 2142 01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:52,960 couple years. Probably 50 100,000 to do 2143 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,520 that. 2144 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,320 >> Some years you might do skip an entire 2145 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,360 year after that. 2146 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,520 >> Oh, but he has a a 2147 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:00,880 >> remember the formula, 2148 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,040 >> the pavement management plan and that 2149 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,199 will be rotating through everything so 2150 01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:08,239 that they won't get so bad that it takes 2151 01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:10,159 so much to redo them. They'll 2152 01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:12,159 >> be on the same timeline. So, it works 2153 01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:12,719 out. 2154 01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:14,719 >> So, it works out. So if we once we get 2155 01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:16,560 all these roads if we just so normally 2156 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,400 we keep about 100,000 is what we 2157 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,840 historically kept in that budget for 2158 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:20,640 maintenance 2159 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:21,360 >> and if we just 2160 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,440 >> so what we get from the state if I I 2161 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:24,719 mean that would be the dream that's why 2162 01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:27,199 I'm like wow 2163 01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:29,120 >> we can get on top of this and stay on 2164 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:29,600 top 2165 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,880 >> the challenge is going to be getting all 2166 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,239 these roads over here the worst roads 2167 01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:34,239 are the ones that need to be done and 2168 01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:35,280 >> biggest expense 2169 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,679 >> biggest yeah our biggest expense it cost 2170 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:40,080 about $20,000 if we have a huge like 2171 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,679 fail spot to fix um Poth holes usually 2172 01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:44,480 four to five. 2173 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,400 >> Another fund we get to add to that 2174 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:47,360 because the water 2175 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,159 >> pothole 4 to 5,000. 2176 01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:51,840 >> Okay, let's keep going. 2177 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,239 >> Road salt. Where did we get to supplies? 2178 01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:56,159 Okay, we got road salt. Uh that's just 2179 01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:57,760 what we spent historically. That varies 2180 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,679 depending on the year. Last year we 2181 01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:01,360 spent about 26,000 2182 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,560 >> and we still have 2183 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,480 >> and we still got half a shed full down 2184 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:06,400 there. 2185 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,400 >> So I just thought let's maybe if we just 2186 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,960 keep that budget the same in case we 2187 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,400 need the salt. If we don't, it goes back 2188 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,520 into the budget, 2189 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,000 >> right? 2190 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,000 >> But if we have a bad year, like 2191 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,440 >> three years ago, we had a really heavy 2192 01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,120 year. We used about $60,000. 2193 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,719 >> We had like nine months of winter that 2194 01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:21,120 year. 2195 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,600 >> Yeah. So, it just varies year to year. 2196 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,400 >> We needed it though. 2197 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:26,800 >> All right. 2198 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,040 >> Um 2199 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,600 fuel once again, the fuel is just a 2200 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,040 whatever. It depends on the years how 2201 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,480 much of that we use. Not a lot of vary. 2202 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,640 I just The interesting thing was I think 2203 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,640 we fill all our plows from our service 2204 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,159 truck. So historically that budget on 2205 01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:45,840 him has been zero last year or sorry the 2206 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,760 budget was there for 5,000 but we didn't 2207 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,199 spend any in the budget because Toby's 2208 01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:50,480 going down and filling up the service 2209 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:51,520 truck 2210 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,040 >> the roads budget with 2211 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,560 >> the tank on the back of the service 2212 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,159 truck and then that would be used to 2213 01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,239 fill the plows. So it came out of the 2214 01:20:58,239 --> 01:20:59,280 roads budget 2215 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,040 >> for the plows. So we got to make that 2216 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,640 track a little better. 2217 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:02,960 >> Okay. 2218 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,880 >> But that's about the budget we keep. Um 2219 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,440 snow plows repairs and maintenance. Uh 2220 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,040 once again, this is oil changes. 2221 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,640 Whatever we need to do there can 2222 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,560 probably be combined with someone's The 2223 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,560 other ones are equipment and tools for 2224 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,880 blades and all that stuff. This one's do 2225 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,920 uh tires, oil changes, stuff like that. 2226 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,760 Um parts, chipper days. 2227 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,960 >> Last section. Okay, 2228 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,880 >> last section. Chipper days. Um so we've 2229 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,840 usually had 10,000 all that. Now we 2230 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,600 don't have any expense for chipper days. 2231 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,600 Um the county comes up and does all our 2232 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,120 chipping. 2233 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,320 So 2234 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,159 >> don't we sometimes have our staff help 2235 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:43,120 though? 2236 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,560 >> But here's my thought. 2237 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,920 >> We do and that comes out of our fire 2238 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,760 fuel mitigation budget. 2239 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,719 >> Yeah. That's why I was confused or or 2240 01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:52,239 we're volunteering our time 2241 01:21:52,239 --> 01:21:53,679 >> or we're volunteering our time. 2242 01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:55,199 >> So we don't have a lot of money that we 2243 01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:56,719 ever spend on chipper days. So my 2244 01:21:56,719 --> 01:21:59,679 thought was if we keep uh so I've been 2245 01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:01,199 talking to the state about getting a 2246 01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:04,560 grant for our city to have a chipper. 2247 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,480 Um, this way it can be used periodically 2248 01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:08,960 throughout the year when we need to chip 2249 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,440 stuff. Uh, the state thought we'd have a 2250 01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:12,880 good chance at getting a grant for a 2251 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,480 chipper. So, I thought maybe we put a 2252 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:16,159 little money aside in that for a grant 2253 01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:18,560 match. So, that's what that 5,000 is. 2254 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:19,920 It'd be a grant match towards getting a 2255 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:20,560 chipper. 2256 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,880 >> And it'd be good for our mitigation crew 2257 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,040 when they're in town. 2258 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,480 >> They could actually make money in town 2259 01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:27,920 with it if we're have if we're doing 2260 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,679 residents properties. So, I like 2261 01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:31,760 >> Yeah. How many have they like a couple 2262 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,120 summers ago when they did quite a few of 2263 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,040 them? How many resident How many homes 2264 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,639 did were were they able to do 2265 01:22:36,639 --> 01:22:39,679 residences? They did a few, right? 2266 01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:41,120 >> Cherries. The cherries. 2267 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,880 >> They did like a half a dozen a years ago 2268 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,800 when we had them in town a little more 2269 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,800 residents pay our city to have them come 2270 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,639 out and do it. Um this year we've got uh 2271 01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:53,360 one resident that's paid us so far for a 2272 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,920 big piece of property. Um 2273 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,600 >> yeah, so we'll offer that every year. 2274 01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,880 And if we have our own chipper, that 2275 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,400 just makes it much easier. 2276 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:01,040 >> Easier. 2277 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,800 >> Do we have a date for chipper day this 2278 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,480 year? And are we planning on buying 2279 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:06,560 this? If if this goes through, would we 2280 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,320 buy it on 2281 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,040 >> We wouldn't be using that this money for 2282 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,360 this May. We would maybe buy it for the 2283 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,960 fall shipping day for next year's 2284 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,239 budget. Yeah. 2285 01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,880 >> But we'd still do one in May this year 2286 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,000 for the residents. 2287 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:21,199 >> Crossing our fingers. Yes. 2288 01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:22,480 >> Okay. 2289 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:23,840 >> I can't give a date yet. 2290 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:24,800 >> Okay. 2291 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,800 >> State won't let me right now. Well, and 2292 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,199 the county has to be available, too. 2293 01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:31,600 >> Yeah, that depends. The county might not 2294 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,400 be like to help us because it's going to 2295 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,320 be such a big fire year for them. 2296 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,520 >> They might be gone. 2297 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,120 >> I've talked to the county. We've got a 2298 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,560 tenative date, but they don't want to 2299 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,960 release it yet until we that we can 2300 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,159 verify that everything's going to be 2301 01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:45,040 okay. 2302 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,199 >> And it can vary if they get call on 2303 01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:49,199 fires. It's a busy year this year. Uh 2304 01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:51,199 the state's already been called three 2305 01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,360 times to different states and we've been 2306 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,280 on two of them. Um, PTR budget, that's 2307 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,920 just a carryover. I Whatever they spend 2308 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:01,040 that on, I'm not sure. 2309 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,920 >> Half a million. 2310 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,560 >> Uh, city celebrations. That one I did 2311 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,159 bump up. That's our Wooden Hills Days, 2312 01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:12,239 Maple Days, all that stuff. That one we 2313 01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:14,159 just about, we went just slightly over 2314 01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:16,400 14,000 last year, like 142, so I bumped 2315 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,840 it to 145. 2316 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,400 >> Yeah. And, um, our our meal costs a 2317 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,159 little bit more every year. And then we 2318 01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:23,840 just have some of the costs cost more. 2319 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,320 And this year it is that I actually was 2320 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:27,520 looking at that. I'm like, can we bump 2321 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,960 it to 15? Just it's the 250 celebration 2322 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,840 and we want to do some extra things. So, 2323 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:34,480 yeah. 2324 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:37,760 >> Well, don't do we have any 2325 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,920 anything coming from any grants or 2326 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,800 anything with 250? 2327 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,600 >> We may 2328 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,120 >> uh that'll come potentially from the 2329 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,120 county. I'm working on that right now. 2330 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,360 Thought 2331 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,719 >> we had something somebody 2332 01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:49,920 >> something in the works. We just don't 2333 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,199 know yet. So, 2334 01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:53,679 >> yeah, that'll be about $1,500. 2335 01:24:53,679 --> 01:24:56,400 Okay. And if we get that then yeah, 2336 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,639 we're good. 2337 01:24:58,639 --> 01:25:01,440 >> Um, the strange sprinkler part. So, our 2338 01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:02,960 repairs and maintenance, this is really, 2339 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,040 so sprinkler repair, that's just we put 2340 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,199 2500 in there. We have various repairs 2341 01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,560 through the year on our sprinkler 2342 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,960 system, stuff like that. Um, I've been 2343 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,719 setting aside about 10 grand a year to 2344 01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:15,520 replace our trail uh as it goes around 2345 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,199 the park because it's falling apart. 2346 01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:19,120 Last year, we did about 10 grand of 2347 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,280 trail replacement. Um, this year I'd 2348 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,600 like to just budget another section of 2349 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,800 replacement. Um, just chip away at that 2350 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,320 thing over the next five or so years and 2351 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,440 see if we can get it replaced. Um, and 2352 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,199 then playground equipment. This is kind 2353 01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:35,199 of a big wish list item. We've got lots 2354 01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:36,800 of feedback that they would like to see 2355 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,360 that replaced and get some better 2356 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,639 equipment. So, I thought if we start 2357 01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:43,360 budgeting, maybe we can do some pieces 2358 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,440 or something like that at a time. 2359 01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:47,440 >> Replace the section. We still have those 2360 01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:48,639 old little 2361 01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:50,639 >> Yeah. And they're like broken. 2362 01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:52,320 >> Yeah. So, I thought maybe if we start 2363 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:53,520 budgeting for a little bit of that. 2364 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:54,239 >> Does this include 2365 01:25:54,239 --> 01:25:55,840 >> chipping away at it? 2366 01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:00,560 >> Chips/ rubber as well in that 10,000. 2367 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,120 >> Yeah. 2368 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:01,840 >> Okay. 2369 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,920 >> And chips we replaced last year, so we 2370 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:04,960 should be okay this year. 2371 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,880 >> Well, depends on how much compacts. I 2372 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,560 mean, we just we're have to go out and 2373 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,440 measure it. 2374 01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:10,639 >> You know, when we first put that 2375 01:26:10,639 --> 01:26:14,639 equipment in, we we kind of had a a 2376 01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:16,960 fundraiser or whatever. different 2377 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,440 citizens got together and raised the 2378 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:21,440 money amongst themselves to buy the 2379 01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:23,840 equipment originally. I don't know if 2380 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,600 they would be interested in doing that 2381 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:26,800 again. 2382 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,000 >> Yeah, I don't know if they'd be 2383 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,440 interested in doing that again. You 2384 01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:31,199 know, people who use that equipment 2385 01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:32,000 might 2386 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,080 >> grants you can actually and it could be 2387 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,000 the match to the grant. He found a grant 2388 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,320 for playground equipment. 2389 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,320 >> Um, and maybe one other thing to just 2390 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,639 mention in parks uh not showing in the 2391 01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:44,480 budget is we did apply for a grant. 2392 01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:46,080 Well, I talk about other grants. Never 2393 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:46,400 mind. 2394 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:47,679 >> Yeah, we're gonna do that in a minute. 2395 01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:48,880 >> Yeah, never mind. I'll leave that for 2396 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,440 grants. 2397 01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:50,800 >> Okay, 2398 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,760 >> perfect. 2399 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,320 >> Okay. 2400 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:57,679 >> Go, Janet. 2401 01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:00,000 >> No. Are we going to go through and take 2402 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,679 turns? 2403 01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:02,239 >> Yeah. 2404 01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:03,280 So, 2405 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,719 >> well, what I want to first start with 2406 01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:08,880 here is let's go to the yellows. Um, 2407 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,480 so new ambulance, uh, it has been 2408 01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:14,480 already approved. Uh does anybody have 2409 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:16,320 any opposition in me putting a check 2410 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:17,760 there? 2411 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,920 >> No. 2412 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:24,000 >> Perfect. Okay. Um also uh the pavement 2413 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,880 management plan. Uh believe this is what 2414 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,719 Ted, is this phase three or is this 2415 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:30,320 phase four? 2416 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,600 >> Three. 2417 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,239 >> This is three. Um I believe this is 2418 01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:36,000 something we've also already kind of 2419 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,840 committed to in past council meetings 2420 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,000 with past councils. Does anybody have 2421 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,000 any opposition here for us to include 2422 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,159 this into the budget? 2423 01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:44,719 >> No. 2424 01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:46,480 >> And that's the bond just to 2425 01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:47,760 >> Yeah, that's where we get the bond. 2426 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:48,960 >> Yep. 2427 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,000 >> Correct. 2428 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:50,239 >> Yeah. 2429 01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:51,520 >> Yep. 2430 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,000 >> Okay. I also added this one as probably 2431 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,639 a super high priority with the safety 2432 01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,960 for snowplow. Does anybody have any 2433 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,880 opposition for me putting an X here by 2434 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:02,880 for snowplowing 2435 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,040 salt? 2436 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,600 >> No. 2437 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,320 >> Okay. So what I felt might make a lot of 2438 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,560 sense now going forward is is you all 2439 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,360 have this list. Um remember that we have 2440 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,239 added you know just a couple here. Um 2441 01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:22,639 the backup generator. Um and I did we 2442 01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:25,360 add anything else? I can't remember. 2443 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,000 >> I think a comment regarding that. 2444 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,679 >> Please. 2445 01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:32,320 >> Yeah. 2446 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,000 >> I can understand why we want to have a 2447 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,080 brand new piece of equipment. That's the 2448 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,960 best solution in the long run. But until 2449 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,120 we can get that money, I want to propose 2450 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,600 a solution that's a lot less cheaper, a 2451 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,560 lot less expensive as a temporary 2452 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,920 >> stay. The um generator the city had 2453 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,520 before that they hadn't used for like 2454 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,639 15, 20 years. I bought it at auction. I 2455 01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:57,040 put 10 grand into it. I fix it. Every 2456 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,920 month I run 30,000 or 30 minutes every 2457 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:03,360 month and it runs smoothly. 2458 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,600 I can use it to power one of our water 2459 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,639 pumps, right? One out of the two that's 2460 01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:10,159 in the the lower. 2461 01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:11,760 >> Yeah, it's already got the hookup for 2462 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:12,960 it. The only thing it doesn't have is 2463 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,800 the cable 2464 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,239 and it could also be used to power this 2465 01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:19,440 entire building as well. I'm going to 2466 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:22,080 let the city use it at no expense. Just 2467 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,000 cover the fuel costs. But you have to 2468 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,920 find a cable. 2469 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,400 And you guys sitting down how much these 2470 01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,480 cables cost? 2471 01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,440 >> Yeah. What was that number? It's crazy. 2472 01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:36,639 >> 25,000 for the cable building. So, a 2473 01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:38,320 generator is a minimum cost of about 2474 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,480 130,000 is to get the building set up to 2475 01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,400 be able to set to switch. 2476 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,199 >> That's what the big cost is. 2477 01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:47,360 >> Alan had it already wired. He told me he 2478 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,239 had already wired. 2479 01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:50,400 >> It's not. So, he came and looked at it. 2480 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,199 >> The water the water thing is pre-wired. 2481 01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:54,239 >> Uh the booster is 2482 01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:55,600 >> the booster is, but you can come from 2483 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,199 the booster to the top if you need to. 2484 01:29:57,199 --> 01:29:58,960 >> We are. Yeah. So, the booster is preset 2485 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,400 up for the generator. The buildings and 2486 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,760 all. That was the big expense with the 2487 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,440 building cost. Generator was fairly 2488 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:06,639 minimal. It was the 2489 01:30:06,639 --> 01:30:11,830 >> Okay. Looked at found 2490 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:12,320 fourth one. 2491 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,800 >> If we want to use any facility in a 2492 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,199 disaster when the power grid's gone out, 2493 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:19,679 we need power. Now, the fact that we 2494 01:30:19,679 --> 01:30:21,120 don't have any electrical connections 2495 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,880 here is 2496 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:29,199 a bummer, but we can use a generator to pump electricity into the building 2497 01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:31,679 via extension cables. 2498 01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:32,639 >> Okay, so I've got 2499 01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:33,440 >> Okay, 2500 01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:37,120 >> I've got three I got four generators. Uh 2501 01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:41,040 I've got a 48,000 watt propane natural 2502 01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,360 gas generator and I've got a diesel 2503 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,360 generator that's about 10,000 watt. So, 2504 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,800 I can get power into power computers, 2505 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,120 um, communications equipment, things 2506 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,280 like that. And the city doesn't pay 2507 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,880 anything for it because I've already I 2508 01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,400 already own them. Well, my nonprofit 2509 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,719 organization owns it. Okay. Or the B 2510 01:31:00,719 --> 01:31:02,719 Ready Academy. That resource is 2511 01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:05,840 available. If we have to a cabling 2512 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,840 system of of power, what do you call 2513 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,679 that thing? The power box. 2514 01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:11,280 >> Distributor. 2515 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:12,800 >> Distribution box. If we just had a 2516 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,800 distributor that city owned that I could 2517 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,040 plug in 10,000 watts into, then we could 2518 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,040 funnel power into the rooms as we 2519 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:20,320 needed. It's not enough to power 2520 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,280 probably the the heater system. That's 2521 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,840 probably a big one. But you keep lights 2522 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,480 on. If we had at least some connection 2523 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:32,719 um done for lights um in the fire 2524 01:31:32,719 --> 01:31:34,880 department, you just need to be able to 2525 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,880 open those garage doors easily, right? 2526 01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,280 And lights. No, we actually have got all 2527 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,360 of our all of our vehicles stay plugged 2528 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,360 in all the time so that they're ready to 2529 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:43,840 go. 2530 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,120 >> Okay. So, there's that's that's a 2531 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,199 minimal amount. That's battery triple 2532 01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:48,800 charging 2533 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:49,600 very low power. 2534 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,199 >> Do we have a number you can I could 2535 01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:54,000 replace this 130,000 for right now for 2536 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,440 this uh budgetary cycles purposes. 2537 01:31:57,440 --> 01:31:59,199 >> We I mean we can update it later, right? 2538 01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:00,719 Because this is just kind of a prel. 2539 01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:03,679 This is a preliminary uh proposal, Ben, 2540 01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:05,280 because the only thing we're city the 2541 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:06,960 city's ready to use it for now is that 2542 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,800 cable could be used for the power uh for 2543 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,440 the um the water pump, which I think 2544 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:12,639 could be 2545 01:32:12,639 --> 01:32:15,040 >> it's about 20 what? 20 25,000 for 2546 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,120 >> about 25,000 for that particular one. 2547 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,560 But we do have the power generator 2548 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,320 that's already running up at the top, 2549 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:20,560 right? 2550 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:21,600 >> Yes. 2551 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,120 >> So the Yeah, the well's already covered. 2552 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,199 It's automatic generator up there. 2553 01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:26,159 >> I was more concerned about this 2554 01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:27,520 building. So we had to figure out how to 2555 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:28,960 get a distributor box. 2556 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,960 >> Okay. So we can bring in power generator 2557 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,719 outside and use it to be able to 2558 01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,480 function in this building during 2559 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:37,280 >> and we've got a generator up there too. 2560 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,880 >> So we don't need to worry about a 2561 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,040 generator for the water supply only a 2562 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,960 generator for this facility. 2563 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,040 >> Yes. Yes. If we have one up there 2564 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,040 >> now that the light are you talking about 2565 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,040 the the light tower? 2566 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:49,840 >> It's not big enough. 2567 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,320 >> No got a generator up there that will 2568 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,639 also size to run the wells. 2569 01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:55,360 >> 25,000. 2570 01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,920 >> I just have to 2571 01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,679 >> um 2572 01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:01,280 So, what you guys haven't seen is in 2573 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,600 I've got a water budget, too. Uh, which 2574 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,520 is a enterprise fund. In the water 2575 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,600 budget, got some money planned for uh 2576 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,480 >> fixing that generator. It's like $2,500 2577 01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:14,080 next month to replace the batteries. And 2578 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,920 >> so, we got to move along to go. 2579 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,360 >> Okay. 2580 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:19,600 >> So, I 2581 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,199 normally have a budget retreat where we 2582 01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:23,920 just different than a but different than 2583 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:25,520 a city council meeting. We don't do 2584 01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:26,000 other 2585 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,320 >> We still got to That's okay. Let's focus 2586 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:29,920 you guys. 2587 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:30,880 >> Thank you. 2588 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,719 >> Yeah. We're going to we're going to go 2589 01:33:32,719 --> 01:33:35,360 around and um 2590 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,040 >> we're just going to go around in a 2591 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,600 circle and you're going to pick one 2592 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,239 budget item, right, Ben, that you want 2593 01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:43,760 on there. 2594 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,760 >> So, I'm going to go first. I want city 2595 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,159 celebrations. So, if you'll put an X on 2596 01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:53,440 that one. I know I'm so selfish. 2597 01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:56,960 >> Okay. Anybody who's opposed to that? 2598 01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,639 No. 2599 01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:03,110 >> Okay. Uh Dan, 2600 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,760 » well, I was thinking on the PTR side as 2601 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,199 well. I know that we're talking about a 2602 01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:10,400 grant at some point for the but I I've 2603 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,800 been walking on the trail system quite a 2604 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,040 bit um the last week trying to regain my 2605 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:22,159 balance. Um, and I wondered if Yeah, I 2606 01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:23,920 mean I I look at the trail replacement 2607 01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:25,440 and and some of that stuff just having 2608 01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:27,440 been up at the park. I would like to see 2609 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:30,400 the trails improved um or maintained or 2610 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:31,920 at least have a plan. And I like Ted's 2611 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,560 plan. It is it is a big 2612 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,800 expense. Um but I do like it going at a 2613 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,040 kind of scheduled maintenance. 2614 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,560 >> You're picking trail replacement. 2615 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,320 >> The trail replacement I think is the one 2616 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,320 that I would I would like to see. 2617 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:51,040 >> All right. Anybody opposed there? 2618 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:56,310 >> Okay. Uh Brian, 2619 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:57,679 » how's he going to pick with all those 2620 01:34:57,679 --> 01:34:59,440 fire winds? You can't It's like throwing 2621 01:34:59,440 --> 01:34:59,840 away your 2622 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,000 >> Well, we 2623 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,149 just I'm 2624 01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:07,679 » What? 2625 01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:09,600 >> I don't like the way this is working. 2626 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,880 >> Yeah, I'm kind of thinking feels weird. 2627 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,800 >> It's going to take a long time. Is there 2628 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,239 let's let's just say is there anything 2629 01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:19,199 anybody actually in the on the council 2630 01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:21,600 is there anything that anybody disagrees 2631 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:22,080 with. 2632 01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,360 >> Well, there's more here than we have 2633 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:23,760 money. 2634 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,679 >> I know. I know. But this is one of the 2635 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:27,760 questions that he's asking, right? So, 2636 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,159 is there anything that anybody disagrees 2637 01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:31,280 with 2638 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:31,920 >> as long as 2639 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:33,920 >> you disagree with something? Okay. What 2640 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:34,719 is it? 2641 01:35:34,719 --> 01:35:37,120 >> Uh 4141601 2642 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:42,390 13,000 for printer leases. 2643 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,880 Um 4141649 2644 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,719 33,000. 2645 01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:47,120 >> Um 2646 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,520 >> so we locked into the printer lease. 2647 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:50,639 >> Okay, 2648 01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:51,679 >> that's not a 2649 01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:54,239 >> it's up 5,000 from our previous years. 2650 01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:56,400 So that's my only that's my only concern 2651 01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,719 right now. I'm sure it's justified. I 2652 01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:01,120 just want to understand it better. 2653 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,360 >> Repainting the city center for 51,000 2654 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,800 I'm not on board with or the re 2655 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,239 recarpeting the city center. 2656 01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:10,080 >> Yeah, a lot of those I think are 2657 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,480 discretionary in there. 2658 01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,159 They're wish list items. Okay. 2659 01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:15,360 >> Why don't we Why don't we take a 2660 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,679 section? Go in the fire. Let's do fire. 2661 01:36:17,679 --> 01:36:19,520 Let's do Let's make it a little easier. 2662 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,880 Can we do that? 2663 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:24,480 >> Let's go inside. Let's go in fire. Is 2664 01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,639 there anything in fire that is 2665 01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:29,520 unnecessary? 2666 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,679 Don't ask Ted. He might be the wrong 2667 01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:36,080 >> Well, my understanding, Ted, this was 2668 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,520 all in within your current budget 2669 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,000 anyway. This isn't really on top of 2670 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,440 anything that's in the fire. 2671 01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:42,960 >> So, I guess what my my what I'm saying 2672 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,760 is is can we can we approve 2673 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,560 >> everything in the fire and save some 2674 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,239 time. Is there anything that's 2675 01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:52,880 >> or just can we say what was approved for 2676 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,639 last year's budget compared to this 2677 01:36:54,639 --> 01:36:56,719 year's budget too. So, cuz that was 2678 01:36:56,719 --> 01:36:59,119 helpful when when Ted said that up front 2679 01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:02,960 >> for us. And then we also know that some 2680 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,960 of these things that that like carpet 2681 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,199 and things we know are are need to be 2682 01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:08,960 addressed, but they weren't in last 2683 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,360 year's budget. So maybe we just look at 2684 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,920 those and say, "Hey, these are extras 2685 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:14,320 now." 2686 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,080 >> It's just she's trying to wipe out the 2687 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,320 ones that first are are already 2688 01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,480 >> you might not necessarily be wiping them 2689 01:37:22,480 --> 01:37:25,440 out total. It's just saying, "Hey, these 2690 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:27,520 aren't these aren't priorities right 2691 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,960 now." now. And I think we all kind of 2692 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,719 know it's these extras. 2693 01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:32,480 >> Yeah. I I would like to ask those that 2694 01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:35,760 were responsible. So, Jody, Wayne, Ted, 2695 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,920 um Rachel, obviously, how much time did 2696 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,159 you spend on the prioritization? Did you 2697 01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:41,440 spend a good amount of time in that 2698 01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:44,880 prioritization of the of the lists? 2699 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,600 >> I would say from my aspect, um that's 2700 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:48,800 tough because everything to me is 2701 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,440 priority. 2702 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:50,080 >> Agree. 2703 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:50,639 >> So, 2704 01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:52,800 >> well, the the only reason I asked 2705 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,400 >> Yeah. You know, I spend a little time 2706 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:55,920 looking at it trying to decide 2707 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,520 >> because because really that's going to 2708 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,920 help at least me help me decide where we 2709 01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:01,199 should really focus our time and 2710 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,760 attention on those initial approvals, 2711 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,760 right? So, if I just did if I I took 2712 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:09,360 this your the total 2713 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,639 priority one amount is $80,000. 2714 01:38:12,639 --> 01:38:14,400 So, if we hit every if we gave everybody 2715 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,119 their priority one item that they list, 2716 01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:18,639 it's $80,000. 2717 01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:19,040 >> Mhm. 2718 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,159 >> Priority 2 485. Priority three goes down 2719 01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:26,080 to 26. Priority four is $150,000. 2720 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,119 So if I'm looking at a at a gap of about 2721 01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:31,280 $200,000, right, between our approved 2722 01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,440 and where we're at, if priority one if 2723 01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:34,639 the thought has been put into the 2724 01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:37,679 priority ones, I'm almost willing to 2725 01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:40,560 >> if that's if it Yeah. 80 grand, I would 2726 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,719 much rather just do a almost a 2727 01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:45,440 >> I I hate to say it, a bulk approval 2728 01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:47,119 >> just because I know the thought has been 2729 01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:50,000 put into the priority. But if it wasn't, 2730 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,400 >> then I'm not then then I mean if it was if it was just kind of a 2731 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,360 >> for me ones were one of those things of 2732 01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,199 we've got to get this stuff done like 2733 01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:00,480 digitizing the records. 2734 01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:00,960 >> Agreed. 2735 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,320 >> We've got to get it done because there's 2736 01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,679 no way if we have a fire again 2737 01:39:05,679 --> 01:39:07,360 have to haul out. 2738 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,600 >> Ben, can you put X's on the ones and see 2739 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:10,480 where we're at? 2740 01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:12,400 >> Yeah. If you go up look at the fire 2741 01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,040 budget. 2742 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:13,360 >> Yeah. 2743 01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,440 >> I actually ranked that one. So it's not 2744 01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:17,440 like So I just ran it one one through 2745 01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:19,600 nine. Yeah, I'm I'm honestly leaning on 2746 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,480 the on the fire and the the EMS budget. 2747 01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:24,000 I'm actually really comfortable with it 2748 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,199 because you've already said it's it's 2749 01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:27,040 kind of already within budget. It's just 2750 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,199 how you see the priority of the spend. 2751 01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:30,400 >> It's these other things like for 2752 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,560 example, Jody, you've got and again, not 2753 01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,400 I'm not trying to 2754 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,119 >> you've got $1,000 for city center 2755 01:39:37,119 --> 01:39:39,760 building signage as a priority one 2756 01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,679 expenditure and it's probably because 2757 01:39:41,679 --> 01:39:43,040 you're hearing about it, people saying 2758 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,320 complaining about it or whatever else 2759 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,440 and you you know, etc., etc. If that 2760 01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:50,159 $1,000 needs to be spent for a new sign, 2761 01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:52,159 I'm fine with that. But I just want to 2762 01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:55,440 make sure that that would be a prime. 2763 01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,440 Like if we only have $1,000 left in the 2764 01:39:57,440 --> 01:39:59,199 bank, we're like, "Okay, what's left?" 2765 01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:00,800 Are we really saying the new sign on the 2766 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,239 building is is the new sign is going to 2767 01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:02,560 be there? 2768 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,199 >> It's between 2769 01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:07,040 >> Oh, if he's taking it out of roads, then 2770 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,360 you can take it out of there. 2771 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,870 and you don't 2772 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,440 » I don't believe Ted and I differ in this 2773 01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:17,440 area. If I have a budget and I don't 2774 01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:19,280 need it, I'm not going to spend it. 2775 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:20,800 >> Sure. 2776 01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,639 >> Ted agrees, you know, if I've got it, 2777 01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:23,840 I'm going to spend it. 2778 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,239 >> So, we kind of, I think, work together 2779 01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:28,400 and say, is this really going to be 2780 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:29,840 needed? And he just said, it's going to 2781 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,320 come out of roads. Okay. Well, then take 2782 01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:33,840 it out. It's just one of those things 2783 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,119 that happened to deal 2784 01:40:35,119 --> 01:40:36,800 >> Okay. And I and I again I'm not critical 2785 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,199 of anybody's priorities at all. 2786 01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:41,360 >> I just want to say cuz for me if if if 2787 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,920 the priority one falls within our our 2788 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:44,639 gap 2789 01:40:44,639 --> 01:40:46,320 >> I want the locking mechanism on the 2790 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,400 door. Does anybody disagree with that? 2791 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,880 >> I would agree. Also, mayor, I I noticed 2792 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:51,280 that 2793 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,639 >> it was right above where you just did 2794 01:40:52,639 --> 01:40:53,679 the red. 2795 01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:56,639 >> Jody had pretty well prioritized every 2796 01:40:56,639 --> 01:40:59,840 single thing she had on there and yet 2797 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,960 >> and and a lot of the fires prioritized 2798 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,600 and even some he put at 5, six, seven, 2799 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,360 eight, nine, but still we're probably 2800 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:08,960 going to put it in there. Those are our 2801 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:09,760 list of 2802 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:14,239 >> and um but I noticed that on on roads 2803 01:41:14,239 --> 01:41:17,840 and on um snowplow there's only one or 2804 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,119 two things that are prioritized on on 2805 01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:24,560 that and yet they are priorities. So I 2806 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,040 think that if if we're looking at just 2807 01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,600 one and twos based on what they put on 2808 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,000 some of the main expenses don't have a 2809 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,159 one and two on them. There's um you've 2810 01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:36,639 put some on them since that we've 2811 01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:39,840 printed out this copy. But um 2812 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,719 >> can we put just wanted to be aware aware 2813 01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:44,719 of that that there are some additionals 2814 01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:45,040 once. 2815 01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:46,639 >> Does anybody disagree with that? 2816 01:41:46,639 --> 01:41:49,040 >> But I would like Well, I think Ted this 2817 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,960 year 2818 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,480 have we got the funds in your 2819 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:55,840 budgets 2820 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,840 >> to get the geotech survey done likely on 2821 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,600 the wall 2822 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,679 >> this year. Just do it red for now 2823 01:42:03,679 --> 01:42:04,880 though. 2824 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,280 >> I don't feel comfortable making I mean I 2825 01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,440 know this isn't the final but it does 2826 01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:11,199 when we're just barely kind of getting 2827 01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:12,000 the 2828 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,480 >> the gist of what everybody's asking for. 2829 01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:17,520 I would like to be able to digest it out 2830 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:18,000 of this. 2831 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,639 >> Yeah. So again, we can leave it. 2832 01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:23,360 >> We just don't say yes at this point. 2833 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,800 >> We're getting the geotech. 2834 01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,960 >> We're not deleting it. We're just not 2835 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:27,520 saying yes. 2836 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:28,800 >> I'm just having you make it red because 2837 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,280 we're not saying yes to it yet. Can I 2838 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:32,719 ask about digitizing 2839 01:42:32,719 --> 01:42:35,760 >> and the audio system? Does anybody does 2840 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,040 anybody? 2841 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,119 >> Can we make that red as well? 2842 01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:41,040 >> Yeah, definitely. 2843 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,639 >> If anyone disagrees with me, I'm just 2844 01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:44,400 trying to like get through this. 2845 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:45,679 >> Thank you. 2846 01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:47,760 >> Um, okay. So, 2847 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,280 >> maybe if we're just trying to move, 2848 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:50,800 let's just go through here. So, planning 2849 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,560 and zoning. Anybody have a problem with 2850 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,600 me putting X there for planning 2851 01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,040 commission? 2852 01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,040 >> Yeah, we're good. 2853 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,320 >> We need our and all that. That's 2854 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,679 >> okay. Then let's jump down here to EMS. 2855 01:43:05,679 --> 01:43:06,960 >> Okay. I'm going to kind of go through 2856 01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,000 priorities here. Um 2857 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:11,760 >> I mean, I don't see how we can really 2858 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,600 take things out of fire and EMS. 2859 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,000 >> I think you just That's not a lot of 2860 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:16,480 money. 2861 01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:18,239 >> It's not the original. It's not last 2862 01:43:18,239 --> 01:43:19,679 year's budget. It did go up, but there 2863 01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:20,960 are reasons for that. Besides, 2864 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,199 >> yeah, there's not a lot there. There's 2865 01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:24,960 not a lot in there. 2866 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,719 >> Okay, let's go to public roads here. 2867 01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:30,320 streets. Obviously, we need the 2868 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:31,679 engineering. 2869 01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:35,040 >> So, I I think these two are are I think 2870 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:36,639 we better move on these. I I brought 2871 01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:39,360 that up because I think if we don't, 2872 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,960 we're going to get in trouble. 2873 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,480 >> Yep. 2874 01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:44,719 >> So, are are we getting proposals for the 2875 01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:46,800 engineering? Because I mean, I know that 2876 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:51,520 the engineers require a lot, but 35,000 2877 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,520 >> that's the multiple projects, right? 2878 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,600 >> Yeah. Those are just the design and then 2879 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:56,800 one's the construction 2880 01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,880 >> that has to go out for bid, right? The 2881 01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,159 engineering 2882 01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:02,000 >> engineering. No, we can request if it's 2883 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,800 under 50,000, we can request three three 2884 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,080 um 2885 01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:07,840 >> uh I don't like to call them bids in 2886 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,119 engineering, but three proposals. 2887 01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:10,880 >> Three proposals. Okay. As long as we do 2888 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,000 three, then that's fair. Yep. Okay. 2889 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,639 >> Yeah. So, we have that one down there 2890 01:44:16,639 --> 01:44:19,199 that says 3500. Not sure what this one's 2891 01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:19,840 for. 2892 01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,159 >> That goes away. That one could go away. 2893 01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:24,560 >> Make it red. 2894 01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,239 because we're we're not sure yet. 2895 01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:27,840 >> We're not moving to capital. We're not 2896 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,239 doing capital, 2897 01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:30,639 right? 2898 01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:32,560 >> Yeah. Do those two 2899 01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,239 >> road supplies. We need them. 2900 01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:34,560 >> Yeah. 2901 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,360 >> And I like the combining and giving Ted 2902 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,639 some flexibility with how he spends that 2903 01:44:40,639 --> 01:44:41,199 money. 2904 01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:43,920 >> Okay. So, that section 2905 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,320 >> snowplow I have no objections with. 2906 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,040 >> Yeah, snowplow. Let's do them. There's 2907 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,520 not much there. 2908 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,080 Um I ptr give ptr 2909 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:54,800 >> ptr 2910 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,639 >> chipper days I agree. Does anybody 2911 01:44:56,639 --> 01:44:58,400 object to those? 2912 01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,440 >> They're all little. 2913 01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:03,360 >> I think chipper days is the grant. 2914 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:04,080 >> Make it red. 2915 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:04,960 >> Make that one red 2916 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,560 >> cuz I think that we should look for 2917 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,920 grants and also um citizen matches. I 2918 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,760 >> I think we should hold on right now the 2919 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,360 hold on the playground equipment and 2920 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,760 hold on the grant for chipper on the 2921 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,840 chipper grant. Well, we usually spend 10 2922 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:19,440 on chipper days, so that's half. 2923 01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:20,639 >> No, we don't. 2924 01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:21,119 >> Oh, 2925 01:45:21,119 --> 01:45:21,840 >> we just save 2926 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:22,719 >> you budget it for it. 2927 01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:24,080 >> We budget for it and then we don't. 2928 01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:25,440 >> See, I'm okay leaving that in the 2929 01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:26,880 budget. 2930 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,360 >> It's important that cuz we're down to 2931 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,639 233,000. So, 2932 01:45:32,639 --> 01:45:34,719 >> we don't have 2933 01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:36,719 >> Well, we've we've cleared a lot. So, we 2934 01:45:36,719 --> 01:45:39,119 are already done with uh PT or with 2935 01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:40,320 parks 2936 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,840 >> snowplow. Okay. Just in case we have to 2937 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,199 go back. I think we need to leave 2938 01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:46,639 Chipper because that's our fire 2939 01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:48,080 mitigation. 2940 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,360 >> Uh it's not a park and trail. I I think 2941 01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,199 it I think it should be under fire 2942 01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:54,880 mitigation, but 2943 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,560 >> because that's what we're we're training 2944 01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,880 our citizens to be um 2945 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,800 >> No, no, no. We're we're not saying we're 2946 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,000 getting rid of chipper days, 2947 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,159 >> right? But but we're talking about I 2948 01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:04,960 know what we're talking about. 2949 01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,320 >> Dropping $5,000 out of a match that'll 2950 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,719 possibly go to a grant to buy a chipper. 2951 01:46:10,719 --> 01:46:12,239 Doesn't have anything to do with chipper 2952 01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:13,440 days. Not at all. 2953 01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:14,880 >> Okay. So that's a that's an equipment. 2954 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:15,920 That's a piece of equipment. 2955 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,280 >> But I thought he doesn't have to do a 2956 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:18,639 >> chipper. He said that we would be doing 2957 01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:20,480 our own chipping rather than the county 2958 01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:21,760 doing it. And that's why we wanted a 2959 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:22,159 chipper. 2960 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:23,520 >> No, no, rather than the county. 2961 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,000 >> No, if we if the county is still going 2962 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,119 to come and chip, 2963 01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:28,639 >> but with our chipper, not this. 2964 01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:30,000 >> If we have a chipper in between that 2965 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,239 one, our crews are out, they go around. 2966 01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:34,000 >> Okay. So, we're still waiting on this. 2967 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:35,600 >> Okay. Let's just work our way back up 2968 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,119 slowly, Ben, and see if we missed 2969 01:46:37,119 --> 01:46:38,639 anything. So, let's just 2970 01:46:38,639 --> 01:46:40,880 >> Okay. Am I leaving that X or not for the 2971 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:41,920 chip or Grant? 2972 01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,600 >> I have the chip off for now. for now. 2973 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:43,920 Yeah. 2974 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:45,440 >> Okay. Off for now. 2975 01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:47,679 >> If if we're not unanimous, let's just 2976 01:46:47,679 --> 01:46:49,440 take it off for now. 2977 01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:49,920 >> Well, 2978 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,199 >> we can always come back. 2979 01:46:53,199 --> 01:46:53,840 >> Good conversation. 2980 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,199 >> So, let's just kind of make sure we 2981 01:46:55,199 --> 01:46:56,560 don't miss anything. Let's just work our 2982 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,239 way up. We did all those. So, let's keep 2983 01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:01,760 going. Let's We got to move this along. 2984 01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,119 >> Wait. Okay. 2985 01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:04,639 >> At the bottom of this here. 2986 01:47:04,639 --> 01:47:05,199 >> All right. 2987 01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:06,880 >> This pays for itself. I don't see 2988 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,239 >> Yeah, you got to X all of those. 2989 01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:09,440 >> X all those. 2990 01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:12,080 >> Yep. It's just like the ambulance pays 2991 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,440 for itself with the sale on the fire. 2992 01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:15,119 >> Let's not miss any. Make sure everybody 2993 01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:16,159 watching. 2994 01:47:16,159 --> 01:47:18,639 >> Okay. So then all the Jodie stuff. 2995 01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:19,119 >> Great. 2996 01:47:19,119 --> 01:47:20,320 >> It's not really. 2997 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:21,360 >> Let's go to the top and 2998 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:22,320 >> Oh yeah, let's do these. 2999 01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:23,679 >> Let's just work at the top and work 3000 01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:26,639 down. Yeah. We need all of them. 3001 01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:27,360 >> Great. 3002 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:28,239 >> All of those. 3003 01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:32,080 >> They're pretty low. I don't know. 3004 01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,239 >> Do the first one. 4500 3005 01:47:34,239 --> 01:47:37,520 >> and the second And if we're leasing the 3006 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:38,639 others, that's an 3007 01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:40,000 >> we already we're already on the hook for 3008 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,360 that. We got to do that one. 3009 01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:42,719 >> Yep. 3010 01:47:42,719 --> 01:47:44,480 >> Um 3011 01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:45,360 yeah, 3012 01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,719 >> the 20. I think we got to have Polaris. 3013 01:47:48,719 --> 01:47:51,280 We don't have a choice. 3014 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,880 >> Okay, now it gets interesting. 3015 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,239 >> Uh landscaping. 3016 01:47:56,239 --> 01:47:58,000 >> We need the digitizing, I think. 3017 01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,760 >> Yeah, we had a fire. 3018 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,750 >> Well, you had questions. 3019 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,760 » Yeah. So, it seems like a lot. Have we 3020 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,440 gotten bids on that? 3021 01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,760 >> So, this is from the prison. It's the 3022 01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,679 cheapest. The prisoners do it. 3023 01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:12,800 >> We trust that 3024 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,800 >> yet. 3025 01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:15,920 >> Oh, yeah. 3026 01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,440 >> It's on the one teller, guys. 3027 01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:20,400 >> They they do it for other people. 3028 01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,960 >> And so, that I don't like I said, I 3029 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,119 would not prepare be prepared to do it 3030 01:48:25,119 --> 01:48:26,080 all this year. 3031 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:26,960 >> For sure. Yeah. 3032 01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,520 >> There is no way. That's a total price. 3033 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:30,719 So, 3034 01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:32,560 >> is there are there other companies that 3035 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,880 >> Do you want to put the 135 on it? 3036 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:35,840 >> I don't think 3037 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,360 >> that's what Ben's doing. 3038 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,040 >> I've talked to all the other recorders. 3039 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,679 They said UCI is the best. 3040 01:48:41,679 --> 01:48:43,600 >> They'll even take it up to the state 3041 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,840 archives for us once it's done in which 3042 01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,159 they have it all indexed and on an 3043 01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:50,320 external hard drive and yada yada yada. 3044 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,560 And then they transport it to the 3045 01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,320 >> Okay, let's put an X on that. 3046 01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,040 >> The reason this is so been so I mean 3047 01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,360 Jod's been asking for this clarity. 3048 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,600 fires. She had to have the she had to 3049 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:03,600 have the the football team come and 3050 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,520 carry boxes out of our files during the 3051 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:05,760 fire. 3052 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,280 >> Does anybody care about the front entry 3053 01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:08,960 mat if we need that? That's 3054 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,560 >> we need a safety thing. 3055 01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:11,040 >> Nothing. 3056 01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,400 >> It is a safety thing. Somebody could 3057 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:12,880 trip over 3058 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,000 >> the landscaping for now. 3059 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,520 >> It's a ghetto thing. 3060 01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:18,560 >> We are ghetto. 3061 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,040 >> You have to keep it up. I mean, 3062 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:22,800 >> where are we just talking about? Like is 3063 01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:24,560 it over on that side? Help me understand 3064 01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,480 where it is. It's over on the other side 3065 01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:28,239 where the 3066 01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:30,000 >> somewhat bark chips are. 3067 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:30,560 >> Okay. 3068 01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,040 >> That have blown all away or are gone. 3069 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:33,760 >> Okay. 3070 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:35,440 >> Yeah, let's do that one. 3071 01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:37,840 >> I'm okay with that. 3072 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,960 >> The fridge needs replaced. Yes. 3073 01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,239 >> Yeah. I mean, 3074 01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:44,320 >> we could get something off of KSL for a 3075 01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,719 lot cheaper than that. But yeah, 3076 01:49:46,719 --> 01:49:48,400 >> still put the X there though because we 3077 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:49,920 can always change the number. 3078 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:50,800 >> Yeah. 3079 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,199 >> Okay. Let's skip that one for a minute. 3080 01:49:53,199 --> 01:49:55,520 Um, 3081 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,159 ah, teams. Let's skip that for a minute. 3082 01:49:58,159 --> 01:49:58,800 >> Yeah. 3083 01:49:58,800 --> 01:49:59,920 >> Uh, you know what? 3084 01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:00,800 >> I think it's 3085 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,560 >> Let's just do it. That's That's an easy 3086 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,520 one. That's an easy 3087 01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:04,639 >> And it's going to save us in the long 3088 01:50:04,639 --> 01:50:05,280 >> It'll save us. 3089 01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:06,560 >> Oh, yeah. You're right. I remember that. 3090 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:07,199 You said 3091 01:50:07,199 --> 01:50:09,360 >> that pays for itself. 3092 01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:14,639 >> I think the safety is important for the our employees to feel safe that 3093 01:50:14,639 --> 01:50:16,000 they're at work. 3094 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:16,800 >> We've had 3095 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:18,239 >> Do you have anything else that you want 3096 01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:21,440 to say on this front? 3097 01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:22,639 >> Me? Aaron. 3098 01:50:22,639 --> 01:50:24,480 >> Oh, Aaron 3099 01:50:24,480 --> 01:50:27,520 >> Jody or our 3100 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,679 >> law enforcement that's in the room. 3101 01:50:29,679 --> 01:50:31,360 >> I can't see from back here. 3102 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,480 >> This is the bulletproofing in the front 3103 01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:34,960 >> or 3104 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:41,040 >> I would like us to be guarded in how you 3105 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:42,960 describe things on this. I'm not looking 3106 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,360 for details. I'm not looking for 3107 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,199 locations. 3108 01:50:47,199 --> 01:50:51,679 Um, but just in generalities. 3109 01:50:51,679 --> 01:50:53,679 I can buy a couple big pieces of quarter 3110 01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:56,000 inch steel and there we go. Bold them. 3111 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,080 You don't want 3112 01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:02,400 I really I do think we need to be um 3113 01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:03,600 >> feels expensive, right? 3114 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:08,719 >> We need to make sure that our staff are taking those. I can't even remember. 3115 01:51:08,719 --> 01:51:10,560 Repairs to the outside. I think we need 3116 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,400 the repairs to the outside of the city 3117 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,719 center. That's a 3118 01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:16,159 >> Yeah, I agree. 3119 01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:17,600 >> That's not a question. 3120 01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,960 >> It's going to get more expensive longer. 3121 01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:21,679 Sur protector. 3122 01:51:21,679 --> 01:51:23,520 >> Search protector. Are we putting that as 3123 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:24,239 a 3124 01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:26,960 >> I think pass on the sur protector for 3125 01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,600 the moment. 3126 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,000 >> There's another a temporary solution. 3127 01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,080 It's only cost 500 bucks. 3128 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:34,880 >> Okay. 3129 01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:36,800 >> And it actually would uh protect the 3130 01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,960 building against a electrical surge from 3131 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,880 a chronal mass ejection or u uh what do 3132 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,280 you call the other one? Electromagnetic 3133 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:45,679 pulse. 3134 01:51:45,679 --> 01:51:46,480 >> EMP. 3135 01:51:46,480 --> 01:51:50,400 >> Yeah. It's only it's only 500 bucks and 3136 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,199 the protection. 3137 01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:52,800 >> It It'll only last for one hit. 3138 01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:56,000 >> I have Well, yes, but 3139 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:56,880 >> so, 3140 01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:01,030 >> but it's better than nothing. 3141 01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,280 » Not a bad option for right now. 3142 01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,550 >> Yeah. 3143 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:07,360 » Okay. 3144 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,599 >> And if I don't make a plug for the water 3145 01:52:09,599 --> 01:52:12,560 line in the uh old public works bay, if 3146 01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,360 we have uh 3147 01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,840 >> Yeah. snow and aren't able to wash off 3148 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:18,560 those vehicles. 3149 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,800 >> Why isn't that under snowplow budget? 3150 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:22,400 Cuz the mayor told me to put it there. 3151 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:23,280 So, I did what he 3152 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,360 >> It's a building. It's a building thing. 3153 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:26,800 It's not a snowplow thing. It's a 3154 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:27,840 building thing. 3155 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,960 >> It's just used by the snow. 3156 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,599 >> You need to protect the 3157 01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:35,840 chairs. I'm I'm sorry. We might have to 3158 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,589 keep our tacky chairs. 3159 01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:40,239 » All right. 3160 01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:42,480 >> Cabinet shelf. I'd say the 500 bucks is 3161 01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:43,440 worth it. 3162 01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:44,159 >> Yeah. 3163 01:52:44,159 --> 01:52:46,239 I can make something for that 3164 01:52:46,239 --> 01:52:47,599 maybe. 3165 01:52:47,599 --> 01:52:49,599 >> Is that also 3166 01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:49,920 >> one 3167 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,159 >> guys is serving it now? I think 3168 01:52:52,159 --> 01:52:55,119 something I think I think I think a 3169 01:52:55,119 --> 01:52:58,080 couple hours in the shop there's 3170 01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:59,119 >> trip to IKEA. 3171 01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:00,000 >> IKEA. 3172 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,159 >> Hey, 3173 01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:02,800 what? 3174 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:04,400 >> So, we've already pre-approved the 3175 01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:05,920 purchase of emergency radio 3176 01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,639 communications. Correct, Ben? 3177 01:53:08,639 --> 01:53:09,440 >> The radio? 3178 01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:10,239 >> Yes. 3179 01:53:10,239 --> 01:53:12,239 >> Yep. That's on last year's budget 3180 01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:13,840 actually, but it's been pushed forward 3181 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,920 to the current year, which has already 3182 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,679 been authorized. So, it just needs to be 3183 01:53:17,679 --> 01:53:18,800 transacted, 3184 01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:19,119 >> right? 3185 01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:20,960 >> So, we need to decide on the bulletproof 3186 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,159 glass. 3187 01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:24,080 >> Wait, still there's one more thing I 3188 01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:25,599 want to say about the cabinets. We don't 3189 01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:27,040 have a place to put the equipment, the 3190 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,520 ham radio equipment yet. 3191 01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:30,960 >> Is that correct? 3192 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,560 >> Audio equipment going to handle the ham 3193 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,080 radio equipment as well? 3194 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,040 >> Oh, that's a conversation you need to 3195 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:40,320 talk with uh Brett about. We have an uh 3196 01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:44,960 we have a few plans for the current um 3197 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,719 room that is next to my office um that 3198 01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:51,440 holds that fridge as well as all of the 3199 01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:54,320 sirens and all of the networking. 3200 01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,320 >> Uh we're looking to redo some of that 3201 01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,080 work and that's probably where that 3202 01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,960 radio's system would reside. 3203 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,239 >> Keep that in mind. Okay, 3204 01:54:02,239 --> 01:54:04,080 >> Janet, if if you're looking at 3205 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,080 bulletproof glass, my suggestion would 3206 01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,800 be to do the offices 3207 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:10,880 because the the reception area doesn't 3208 01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,440 have a lot of people in it and somebody 3209 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:15,599 can just come by and shoot into the 3210 01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:17,679 office where the people are. That would 3211 01:54:17,679 --> 01:54:20,400 be a first priority rather than the 3212 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,560 reception glass and maybe that leave 3213 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:23,679 that for another year. 3214 01:54:23,679 --> 01:54:25,599 >> You can put security film on that glass 3215 01:54:25,599 --> 01:54:27,760 so they can't break it and walk in, 3216 01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,280 which would be a very useful tool if 3217 01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:30,320 it's not going to be bulletproof. You 3218 01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,040 can put a very inexpensive film on there 3219 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,040 that makes it breach proof. 3220 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,400 >> That's what a lot of the schools are 3221 01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:36,800 putting. 3222 01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:41,679 >> So it'll buy you time to escape or get 3223 01:54:41,679 --> 01:54:43,520 your gun fight back. 3224 01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:48,080 >> Yeah. So I think we still since we don't ne we're not approving exactly 3225 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,159 numbers today just concept. So I say we 3226 01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:51,119 put next there. 3227 01:54:51,119 --> 01:54:53,280 >> Does anybody object is what I'm asking. 3228 01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,159 Does anybody object? Okay. 3229 01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:59,360 >> And what would I shift that number to? 3230 01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,520 uh loosely. 3231 01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:02,480 >> Let's just sleep 3232 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:03,440 >> a lot a lot less. 3233 01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,360 >> I'm going to say we leave it there. 3234 01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,360 Leave it at the 12 right now. 3235 01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:08,880 >> I mean, 3236 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:09,920 >> we can adjust it. 3237 01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,239 >> Yeah. Sale spent north of 50 on theirs. 3238 01:55:12,239 --> 01:55:12,719 >> Yeah. 3239 01:55:12,719 --> 01:55:15,760 >> Okay. So, what's what's left? 3240 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,440 >> I know that one. We'll come back to that 3241 01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:18,800 one. What else is left? Is there 3242 01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:20,400 anything? 3243 01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,159 And how we still have money left, you 3244 01:55:22,159 --> 01:55:22,960 guys? 3245 01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:23,280 >> What? 3246 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,800 >> So, so number two is replace the the 3247 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:32,159 HBAC repairs. We have enough for a for a used helicopter. 3248 01:55:32,159 --> 01:55:32,560 >> So 3249 01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:34,560 >> yeah, we have what what about the ATF? 3250 01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,199 >> Can I can I give you my opinion? I'm 3251 01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:38,239 going to whether you like it or not. 3252 01:55:38,239 --> 01:55:39,199 >> I think we need that. 3253 01:55:39,199 --> 01:55:39,920 >> Um 3254 01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:41,520 >> please hostile. 3255 01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:45,119 >> We we have money in a emergency fund. 3256 01:55:45,119 --> 01:55:46,080 >> Yes. 3257 01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,800 >> Um if the if if we're not ready to 3258 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,360 budget for a new HVAC and just get it 3259 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,199 done, if we're going to wait till it to 3260 01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:55,679 fail, that's an emergency fund dollar 3261 01:55:55,679 --> 01:55:56,880 amount. In my opinion, 3262 01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:57,920 >> it's 3263 01:55:57,920 --> 01:55:59,119 >> I think we should get it done. 3264 01:55:59,119 --> 01:56:01,040 >> It's only 8200. I think we should get it 3265 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:01,599 done 3266 01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:04,320 >> cuz that's that's the heat and the air 3267 01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,239 and it's going it's already getting to 3268 01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:08,800 be over 80° and it's only 3269 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,920 >> Okay. So, it's not not working. 3270 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,960 >> Did you say it's working? It's just 3271 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:15,679 remember 3272 01:56:15,679 --> 01:56:16,639 >> it's on leg. 3273 01:56:16,639 --> 01:56:17,679 >> It's on its last leg. 3274 01:56:17,679 --> 01:56:20,320 >> She has to go outside to turn it on. 3275 01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,560 >> So, we go outside and we turn it. So 3276 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,960 >> there's there I would rather spend five 3277 01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:28,239 grand to get our ducting working and 3278 01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:31,280 deal with the compressor when it fails 3279 01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,840 than I would to buy and put a new 3280 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,440 compressor in, right? You know, and and 3281 01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:35,920 plans. 3282 01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:37,599 >> That's fine. 3283 01:56:37,599 --> 01:56:40,719 >> I'd rather get new carpet, too, for you. 3284 01:56:40,719 --> 01:56:42,960 >> And we can do better this time. I do 3285 01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:46,080 this all the time. 3286 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,080 >> Um, so what's left? 3287 01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,960 >> What What do we have left? 3288 01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:52,719 >> So, 3289 01:56:52,719 --> 01:56:55,280 repainting, which I think is we can do 3290 01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:57,760 in a much better, cheaper way there. So, 3291 01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,639 recarpeting, we've got replace uh the 3292 01:57:00,639 --> 01:57:04,159 retaining wall. Um, we've got the HVAC 3293 01:57:04,159 --> 01:57:06,639 system, we've got the audio in the large 3294 01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:10,000 multi-purpose room, and we have the 3295 01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:11,599 building signage, and it sounds like 3296 01:57:11,599 --> 01:57:13,119 that's already in road, so don't worry 3297 01:57:13,119 --> 01:57:16,000 about that. um replacing the city center 3298 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,760 with LEDs, the backup generator cable, 3299 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:21,440 um and then new chairs. 3300 01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,199 >> What about new chairs? I mean, Jody did 3301 01:57:23,199 --> 01:57:23,679 bring 3302 01:57:23,679 --> 01:57:24,880 >> We don't know about that. That that 3303 01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,119 backup generator cable what that's going 3304 01:57:27,119 --> 01:57:29,280 is that the 25,000 3305 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,320 >> and then on the one up above um the 3306 01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,960 retaining wall and we had 80,000 to 3307 01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:38,960 replace it, but do we have a bid for how 3308 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:39,920 much it would? 3309 01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,480 >> So Ted is going to get in this year's 3310 01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,320 budget. He's going to get the geotech 3311 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:44,880 engineer. 3312 01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,000 >> We already talked about that. 3313 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:47,599 >> Yeah, I I know. I just wanted to make 3314 01:57:47,599 --> 01:57:49,360 sure that if we needed to put it in two 3315 01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:50,639 separate spots, 3316 01:57:50,639 --> 01:57:53,040 >> we need to add the dist the distribution 3317 01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,000 box to that 25,000. 3318 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,599 >> Yeah, because it's the cable and 3319 01:57:57,599 --> 01:57:58,960 distribution box. 3320 01:57:58,960 --> 01:57:59,599 >> I see. 3321 01:57:59,599 --> 01:58:02,320 >> Well, be careful. That 25,000 currently 3322 01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,440 is to help actually get the booster 3323 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,639 uh operational with Aaron's generator. 3324 01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:09,760 >> Correct. 3325 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,840 >> Distribution box. It could actually do 3326 01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:13,360 this building. 3327 01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:17,040 Correct. But so with the 25,000 alone, 3328 01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,280 we get the booster up and running. 3329 01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,280 >> Um, which then 3330 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:22,960 >> provides us 3331 01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,440 >> Yeah. But that the the likelihood of 3332 01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,159 needing the booster is lower. 3333 01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:29,520 >> Yeah. It's not a bunch of 3334 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,480 >> what we need. We need to be here 3335 01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:33,520 handling. 3336 01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,119 >> It's not a priority till it is. 3337 01:58:35,119 --> 01:58:36,560 >> This is our EOC. 3338 01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:37,280 >> Yeah. 3339 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:38,000 >> It has to have 3340 01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,560 >> Yeah, that's fine. So what would I 3341 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:44,000 change the number from 25,000 to what 3342 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,960 the cable and the box? 30,000. 3343 01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,119 >> Yeah. 3344 01:58:49,119 --> 01:58:52,000 >> And then we just put cable and box. 3345 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:53,840 >> So that we make sure it says cable and 3346 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,599 box. 3347 01:58:55,599 --> 01:58:59,119 >> Give it an X. Ben, does anybody object? 3348 01:58:59,119 --> 01:59:00,960 >> We we need to do something to deal with 3349 01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,000 an emergency. 3350 01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,440 >> Yeah, we have a duty. Safety, right? 3351 01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,000 >> Absolutely. 3352 01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,639 >> Okay. Okay. Um I I want the signage. 3353 01:59:10,639 --> 01:59:12,480 >> It's fine. Throw the signage in there. 3354 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,320 >> I think I say we do the signage. 3355 01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,239 >> Building signage is already in the roads 3356 01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:18,239 budget, you guys. 3357 01:59:18,239 --> 01:59:21,199 >> We don't need it. 3358 01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:23,840 >> Just put an X. 3359 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,040 >> Yeah, do an X 3360 01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,679 >> and remove the red. 3361 01:59:29,679 --> 01:59:31,199 >> I like the red. 3362 01:59:31,199 --> 01:59:35,040 >> He likes the red. Okay. 3363 01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,760 >> All right. Um, 3364 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:42,159 what else? So, go back up. Scroll up. 3365 01:59:42,159 --> 01:59:44,719 What about chairs? That was 1,600. But 3366 01:59:44,719 --> 01:59:48,639 >> I I'm okay with that because Jod has to 3367 01:59:48,639 --> 01:59:50,080 I'm I'm okay with that. 3368 01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:50,880 >> Yeah, 3369 01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,280 >> we don't use that room that often, but 3370 01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,880 >> then they'll last a long time. I could 3371 01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:59,040 potentially 3372 01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,800 when we have a meeting, we can take the 3373 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,920 ones out of the training room, put them 3374 02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,760 in there, and then move them back after 3375 02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:06,800 every meeting. Exactly. 3376 02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:08,800 >> That's That's ignorant. I'm I'm sorry. 3377 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:09,440 That's just dumb. 3378 02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:11,040 >> It's 1,600. We're okay. 3379 02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:12,560 >> I say we got the chairs. 3380 02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,040 >> Um All right. So, now we have to 3381 02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:18,159 prioritize. We've got just a few things. 3382 02:00:18,159 --> 02:00:19,360 >> So, go ahead. 3383 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,440 >> Can we change the paint budget to like 3384 02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:24,480 10 12,000? And even if that's Toby with 3385 02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,199 >> Well, again, yeah. What will he do in a 3386 02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:28,719 I'm thinking of what will he do in a 3387 02:00:28,719 --> 02:00:30,880 year and we and we just do it in 3388 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,080 >> Oh, yeah. Do a little bit. 3389 02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:33,520 >> Just do a little bit. Same with the 3390 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,000 carpeting. We do 10,000 in carpeting 3391 02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,719 every year and we're replacing 3392 02:00:38,719 --> 02:00:39,840 >> section. 3393 02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,239 >> Don't you want it to match? 3394 02:00:42,239 --> 02:00:45,679 >> Um I mean, even 3395 02:00:45,679 --> 02:00:47,760 commercial carpet does not go out of 3396 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:50,719 style very quickly. 3397 02:00:50,719 --> 02:00:52,320 I mean, even 25,000. 3398 02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:54,639 >> I just don't want a patchwork of carpet 3399 02:00:54,639 --> 02:00:57,040 that's different colors. That's tacky. 3400 02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,800 >> That's different for paint. But 3401 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,760 >> hey, do we have in the budget for um you 3402 02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,920 know, bug spray spray for box elder 3403 02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:07,840 bugs? Can we have that? 3404 02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:08,960 >> Spray bugs. 3405 02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:14,390 >> I like Sher stinking. 3406 02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,040 » Sherry, sorry. 3407 02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:18,719 And are we repainting because the 3408 02:01:18,719 --> 02:01:20,159 painting is bad or we're just tired of 3409 02:01:20,159 --> 02:01:21,119 the taupe color? 3410 02:01:21,119 --> 02:01:24,239 >> It's been here since 2009. And so my 3411 02:01:24,239 --> 02:01:24,639 house 3412 02:01:24,639 --> 02:01:29,040 >> um to answer your question, it is 3413 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,199 splotchy, right? We have attempted to 3414 02:01:31,199 --> 02:01:33,040 make touch-ups and the touch-ups 3415 02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:34,560 highlight. 3416 02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,679 Um there's also a massive difference in 3417 02:01:37,679 --> 02:01:40,480 each room of the different tones and so 3418 02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,360 doing any touch-up is extremely 3419 02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:44,719 difficult. 3420 02:01:44,719 --> 02:01:46,080 >> Well, guess what? I'm okay with that. 3421 02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:48,239 >> We've had this color so long. Beige is 3422 02:01:48,239 --> 02:01:49,199 back in, baby. 3423 02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:50,080 >> Exactly. 3424 02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:53,990 >> Right. 3425 02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:55,119 » The carpet's back in. 3426 02:01:55,119 --> 02:01:58,080 >> So, I'm I'm all for a $10,000 3427 02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:58,639 allocation. 3428 02:01:58,639 --> 02:02:00,239 >> Anybody opposed? 3429 02:02:00,239 --> 02:02:01,679 >> That's the way to go. 3430 02:02:01,679 --> 02:02:02,239 >> Okay. 3431 02:02:02,239 --> 02:02:03,599 >> I'm fine. Are you guys good with the 3432 02:02:03,599 --> 02:02:05,360 repaint with a 10,000 allocation? 3433 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:06,480 >> Yeah, absolutely. 3434 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,480 >> Um, so HVAC, 3435 02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:10,320 >> let's hit Well, hold on. Let's hit the 3436 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,679 carpet. Are we going to do anything with 3437 02:02:11,679 --> 02:02:12,239 the carpet? 3438 02:02:12,239 --> 02:02:14,480 >> Yeah, he put it in as 25. He changed it. 3439 02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:17,360 may have changed it, but are we, you 3440 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:18,159 know, do 3441 02:02:18,159 --> 02:02:20,080 >> we're to 43,000. 3442 02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:21,199 >> Yeah, we're running out. 3443 02:02:21,199 --> 02:02:23,119 >> Yeah. So, now we're getting to the 3444 02:02:23,119 --> 02:02:24,800 nitty-gritty. I I'm a 3445 02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:27,360 >> I think I think for 25 we could do 3446 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,360 everything on that side of the door. 3447 02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:30,960 >> Not have to worry about this side of the 3448 02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:31,440 door. 3449 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,679 >> We can do this side later. 3450 02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:37,440 >> Yeah. Especially when those casin 3451 02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:41,360 sections put city offices and that would 3452 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:44,560 um How about one, Jody? What's your 3453 02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:46,480 opinion? Which of what's left? What's 3454 02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:49,199 the most priority to you? 3455 02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:50,239 >> This is your budget. 3456 02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:51,679 >> We'll put an X there, too. 3457 02:02:51,679 --> 02:02:52,639 >> No, I mean, 3458 02:02:52,639 --> 02:02:54,400 >> it's the council's budget. 3459 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:55,440 >> It's not my budget. 3460 02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:56,159 >> I know, but it's 3461 02:02:56,159 --> 02:02:58,239 >> your request that the mayor told you to 3462 02:02:58,239 --> 02:02:59,280 request. 3463 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:01,920 >> Would you would you request the HVAC 3464 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:06,159 repairs and replacement o over 3465 02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:07,840 >> I'm going to hard pass that one. 3466 02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,639 >> Well, I'm I'm I'm into saying change 3467 02:03:10,639 --> 02:03:14,560 that to repairing the ducting. 3468 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:15,520 So that our compressor 3469 02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:18,639 >> $5,000 to repair the ducting and if the 3470 02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:20,239 compressor goes out, we'll pull it out 3471 02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:21,840 of the emergency fund. 3472 02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:22,159 >> Yeah, 3473 02:03:22,159 --> 02:03:24,080 >> that's what it's there for. I'm in 3474 02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:24,719 agreement with that. 3475 02:03:24,719 --> 02:03:25,599 >> I'm okay with that. 3476 02:03:25,599 --> 02:03:27,280 >> I like it. I like to use a telet. 3477 02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:30,320 >> Yep. Right. 3478 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:31,760 >> I don't know how to spell baffled, so 3479 02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:33,599 we'll deal with that later. 3480 02:03:33,599 --> 02:03:35,840 >> OD, not ULD, but that's okay. 3481 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,719 >> All right. My opinion would be the 3482 02:03:38,719 --> 02:03:41,440 carpet in the hallway and unfortunately 3483 02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,440 the training room are the worst, but 3484 02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:46,960 they'll probably always be the worst. 3485 02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:50,639 >> Um because our fire people come up low, 3486 02:03:50,639 --> 02:03:52,400 go in there, their boots are covered 3487 02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,639 with junk and everything like that. 3488 02:03:54,639 --> 02:03:56,639 >> Um 3489 02:03:56,639 --> 02:03:57,119 product 3490 02:03:57,119 --> 02:03:58,239 >> is Yeah, I was going to say what about 3491 02:03:58,239 --> 02:03:59,040 like a laminate. 3492 02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:00,080 >> They're the only ones looking at those 3493 02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:01,760 laminates are really nice. 3494 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:05,280 >> Really nice and they hold up well. Yeah, 3495 02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:06,000 I maybe 3496 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,480 >> Well, maybe just refloor. 3497 02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:12,159 >> I I'm okay with waiting. 3498 02:04:12,159 --> 02:04:15,280 We get it clean good and see how we go. 3499 02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:17,199 Maybe another year. Okay. So, what else 3500 02:04:17,199 --> 02:04:22,629 is left then? 3501 02:04:22,639 --> 02:04:24,639 » Um, we're really 3502 02:04:24,639 --> 02:04:26,719 >> we've got some flooring options. We've 3503 02:04:26,719 --> 02:04:28,880 got the retaining wall. We've got the 3504 02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,040 audio system 3505 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,040 >> and the LEDs. 3506 02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:33,679 Yeah. 3507 02:04:33,679 --> 02:04:36,080 >> And necessarily we don't have to burn 3508 02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:37,840 the whole thing. We could say, okay, 3509 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,320 38,000 is now headed 3510 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:44,320 >> to um, you know, a capital outlay for 3511 02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:48,239 fire, right? Or a capital outlay for 3512 02:04:48,239 --> 02:04:49,840 basically dumping it into a savings 3513 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:50,960 account. 3514 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:51,920 >> Exactly. 3515 02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:55,599 >> Yeah. I'll suspend it. Just engineer 3516 02:04:55,599 --> 02:04:57,280 >> falling apart. 3517 02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,679 >> You need money to fix that. 3518 02:04:59,679 --> 02:05:02,800 >> That's That's what they for. Yeah. 3519 02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,239 >> How about you have 3520 02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:05,119 >> Well, we plan to 3521 02:05:05,119 --> 02:05:07,040 >> We don't have to finalize it all tonight 3522 02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,599 anyway. I think we just stop here for 3523 02:05:09,599 --> 02:05:10,320 now. 3524 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:12,800 >> Send it all back to us now and then we 3525 02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:14,400 have time to kind of ponder it. 3526 02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:18,239 >> We can look at it some more. But let's end here. Um 3527 02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:19,840 >> I'm also going to propose that we take a 3528 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:21,440 five minute break, 3529 02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,199 >> stretch, go potty, and then we'll go 3530 02:05:23,199 --> 02:05:24,000 back 3531 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:25,520 >> and we will resume 3532 02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,119 >> shifts. 3533 02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:28,239 >> Yes. 3534 02:05:28,239 --> 02:05:31,360 >> No, you're good. 3535 02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:33,599 Okay. Um, 3536 02:05:33,599 --> 02:05:34,719 >> yeah, 3537 02:05:34,719 --> 02:05:36,560 >> that's why I'm here. 3538 02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,639 >> We need 50 bucks in there for 3539 02:05:38,639 --> 02:05:39,760 >> We need to get rolling 3540 02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:41,760 >> in the men's. 3541 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:42,960 >> Yes. 3542 02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:45,119 >> Uh, is there anything else any of you 3543 02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:46,960 guys need from me or my contributions 3544 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,520 would be assistive or helpful? 3545 02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:52,880 >> Um, I think you're good. Are we having a 3546 02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:54,719 closed end here? 3547 02:05:54,719 --> 02:05:55,360 >> No. 3548 02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:56,960 >> I have nothing. 3549 02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,560 >> Okay. Uh, we might. 3550 02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:00,800 >> We might. I was thinking that we might 3551 02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:02,480 just text you. 3552 02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:04,080 >> If you do, text me and then I can 3553 02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,719 rejoin, but if not, uh, 3554 02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:08,800 >> I'm gonna go hit the beach with my short 3555 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:10,560 people. So, 3556 02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:11,520 >> have fun. 3557 02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:13,679 >> Thank you all. Appreciate you. Bye bye. 3558 02:06:13,679 --> 02:06:14,239 >> Thanks. 3559 02:06:14,239 --> 02:06:14,800 >> See you. 3560 02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,920 >> All right, we're gonna move on to number 3561 02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:22,149 two. 3562 02:06:22,159 --> 02:06:24,639 Did Did um I looked at them all. Did any 3563 02:06:24,639 --> 02:06:26,400 Did anybody have any questions on the 3564 02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,320 financials? I actually already asked the 3565 02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,639 questions that I had. I emailed Jod and 3566 02:06:30,639 --> 02:06:34,320 asked her some questions. Um, 3567 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,880 so one of my questions was there was a 3568 02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,960 $2,000 for our it, but it is a,000 a 3569 02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:43,199 month. That's the contract. It was just 3570 02:06:43,199 --> 02:06:46,159 we paid for two months. So, so it wasn't 3571 02:06:46,159 --> 02:06:48,400 that it was 2,000 this month. It was two 3572 02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:50,400 months worth. So, that was a question 3573 02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:54,560 that I had. Um, and were there any other 3574 02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:56,880 questions? Is everybody good there? Mhm. 3575 02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:57,679 >> Okay. And 3576 02:06:57,679 --> 02:06:59,280 >> just a reminder, this one doesn't 3577 02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,599 reflect the changes you guys made with 3578 02:07:01,599 --> 02:07:03,760 the March 10th amended budget. Those 3579 02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:05,679 will come in your March financials. 3580 02:07:05,679 --> 02:07:06,000 >> Okay. 3581 02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:06,880 >> Yeah. 3582 02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:10,480 >> All right. Ted, update on city grants. 3583 02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:15,910 >> Um, 3584 02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:19,119 » so we submitted two grants. Uh, one was 3585 02:07:19,119 --> 02:07:21,840 to through Burgess Owen's office for a 3586 02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,360 community project funding grant. Um that 3587 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:27,520 one I did hear back from them. Uh 3588 02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,880 generally they we sent it we submitted a 3589 02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:34,320 grant for uh a request of 3.9 million 3590 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,159 with a match money from us but the 3591 02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:39,199 request was 3.9 million. Um they asked 3592 02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:42,000 us to reduce that number um which I 3593 02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:43,840 figured they might. So we reduced it 3594 02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,760 down. I gave him three different phases 3595 02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:47,199 of what we could do is this is for 3596 02:07:47,199 --> 02:07:48,719 waterline replacement over here on this 3597 02:07:48,719 --> 02:07:50,880 side of the street. Um I think the 3598 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,400 request finally went in ultimately at 3599 02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:55,679 2.4. 4 million. Um I heard back from 3600 02:07:55,679 --> 02:07:59,280 them. They said that uh they they are 3601 02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,119 taking 20 uh applications to get to get 3602 02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:05,360 try and get funded at the federal level. 3603 02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,599 Ours went as priority number four out of 3604 02:08:07,599 --> 02:08:08,719 the 20. 3605 02:08:08,719 --> 02:08:10,079 >> So then 3606 02:08:10,079 --> 02:08:12,239 >> so it's it's it's it's I don't think 3607 02:08:12,239 --> 02:08:13,760 last year we made it to go back to 3608 02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:18,480 Congress. So So there's a a good he's 3609 02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:19,920 really pushed it. Devon is the guy I 3610 02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:21,040 worked with that he's going to really 3611 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:21,760 try to push our 3612 02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:23,599 >> And I know that I sent you that note 3613 02:08:23,599 --> 02:08:26,239 from um Senator Curtis's office that 3614 02:08:26,239 --> 02:08:29,440 said they have a similar um but a 3615 02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,199 similar grant program that for the 3616 02:08:31,199 --> 02:08:33,599 Senate and that she's going to be 3617 02:08:33,599 --> 02:08:35,119 sending his office is going to be 3618 02:08:35,119 --> 02:08:37,920 sending me that information as soon as 3619 02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,400 it's available and we can also apply for 3620 02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,880 that as part of it. A different but it 3621 02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:44,239 comes from a different funding stream. 3622 02:08:44,239 --> 02:08:47,040 >> Right. Right. So, uh so that one's in. 3623 02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:48,719 We'll just wait to hear on that one. And 3624 02:08:48,719 --> 02:08:51,520 then we submitted a grant to the Utah 3625 02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:56,639 Outdoor Recreation uh grant committee u 3626 02:08:56,639 --> 02:08:59,040 for a pickle ball court. Um and that's 3627 02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:00,560 to get a grant to put a pickle ball 3628 02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:02,560 court up at the park and just waiting to 3629 02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:04,880 hear on that one. A grant got submitted. 3630 02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:07,119 >> Um super competitive, 3631 02:09:07,119 --> 02:09:08,800 >> super competitive. I mean, we'll do the 3632 02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,000 pickleball court if we get a grant. If 3633 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:13,280 we don't get a grant, you probably won't do a pickle ball court. 3634 02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:16,000 >> Um but uh it is kind of competitive. We 3635 02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:17,520 got some good feedback on the grant 3636 02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:19,040 application, so we'll see how it goes. 3637 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,320 >> Really competitive. 3638 02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:21,440 >> Yeah. 3639 02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:26,079 >> Okay. Anything else? Selling engine 192. 3640 02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:28,320 >> That is that Brian? 3641 02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:30,880 >> That's Brian. 3642 02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,280 >> Okay. So, I've asked to put this on here 3643 02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:35,760 because we are looking at a considerable 3644 02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:38,480 sum that we should be receiving for 3645 02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:40,239 selling that. And so, we need to vote on 3646 02:09:40,239 --> 02:09:42,800 it. Um, 3647 02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:44,000 >> and we've talked about it a little bit, 3648 02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:45,840 but does anybody have any questions? 3649 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,440 Would you put it on the auction? 3650 02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:48,800 >> So, it won't it will not go on the 3651 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:50,800 auction site. It will it will most 3652 02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,760 likely go on there are a few sites out 3653 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:55,520 there that 3654 02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:59,119 have uh that that really cater to this 3655 02:09:59,119 --> 02:10:01,360 type of equipment and and we'll get our 3656 02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:05,520 best return for it. Um, there's one site 3657 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:06,960 that'll actually come out and send a 3658 02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,040 professional photographer and and 3659 02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:11,760 everything else if we decide to do that. 3660 02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:13,440 I'm getting their terms and conditions. 3661 02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:15,840 So, we'll talk we'll talk through that. 3662 02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:19,040 Um, but it will go on. We'll we're going 3663 02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:23,360 to list it and what we're, you know, the 3664 02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:25,920 thing to that we have to balance is how 3665 02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,239 fast do we want it to move and how much 3666 02:10:28,239 --> 02:10:30,719 do we want to get out of it. the the the 3667 02:10:30,719 --> 02:10:32,159 faster it moves, the less we're going to 3668 02:10:32,159 --> 02:10:32,719 get out of it. 3669 02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:34,320 >> Well, we're not in a huge hurry, right? 3670 02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,480 >> We're not in a huge hurry other than 3671 02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,639 we'll need to pay back the 3672 02:10:38,639 --> 02:10:40,320 >> the ambulance when that when that 3673 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:40,639 happens, 3674 02:10:40,639 --> 02:10:42,159 >> but we haven't found one of those yet. 3675 02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:43,679 >> We haven't found one of those yet. So, 3676 02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:45,440 it'll it'll be that question. I've not 3677 02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:48,480 posted it yet. I need to have this vote 3678 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:52,159 um per our ordinance to actually post 3679 02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:53,920 that. So, I've kind of been doing the 3680 02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:56,239 research, getting, you know, estimates 3681 02:10:56,239 --> 02:10:58,320 on it and things like that, and then 3682 02:10:58,320 --> 02:10:59,840 we'll just have to determine what we 3683 02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:02,960 want to list it for rather than uh an 3684 02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,360 auction because we could end up with 3685 02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:09,760 very little out of it. And a lot of the sites you see where they're 3686 02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,000 selling them for next to nothing and 3687 02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:13,520 then other sites they're selling them 3688 02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:16,560 for huge amounts of money. Um, it's it's 3689 02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:19,040 a a very desirable vehicle because it's 3690 02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:22,159 four-wheel drive and it's a pumper. Um, 3691 02:11:22,159 --> 02:11:23,520 >> are those more rare? 3692 02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,400 >> Yes. Um, low mileage and things like 3693 02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:30,560 that. So, it's um it is a desirable 3694 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:33,920 >> truck. What's the high lows roughly? 3695 02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:38,079 >> Um, so I I've seen as the estimates go 3696 02:11:38,079 --> 02:11:43,669 up to um $240,000. 3697 02:11:43,679 --> 02:11:47,520 Um, I saw one that's very similar to it 3698 02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,760 that they have listed for 350, but 3699 02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:50,880 there's no way they're going to get that 3700 02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:52,639 cuz there's nothing else out there for 3701 02:11:52,639 --> 02:11:53,360 that kind of money. 3702 02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:54,239 >> So, that's like a 3703 02:11:54,239 --> 02:11:56,400 >> I think we're going to be 3704 02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:58,079 200 or we're going to probably be less 3705 02:11:58,079 --> 02:12:00,320 than 200, but probably in that I'm 3706 02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:01,920 hoping to get that neighborhood if we 3707 02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:07,040 can hold it for long enough. Um, and uh 3708 02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:08,800 and and find the right right people to 3709 02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:09,119 get it 3710 02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:12,000 >> with a a dry western United States. That 3711 02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:12,480 might be 3712 02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:15,040 >> Yeah, that's true. It's good selling it, 3713 02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:16,480 but it might be a good time to sell it. 3714 02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:18,000 >> It's a It's a structure engine. I mean, 3715 02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:19,599 yes, but it's a structure engine. So, 3716 02:12:19,599 --> 02:12:21,599 it's it's more I mean, other than the 3717 02:12:21,599 --> 02:12:23,040 four-wheel drive, it's great for 3718 02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:25,199 mountain communities and and rural 3719 02:12:25,199 --> 02:12:26,400 communities, but it's a structure 3720 02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:29,440 engine. It's not really a wild engine. 3721 02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:30,880 >> Ted, do we have any concerns with 3722 02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:32,800 selling it? Like, does it leave us short 3723 02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:34,000 in any way? 3724 02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:36,719 >> No, I don't think so. Um, so we've now 3725 02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:38,880 got the two uh structure engines, right? 3726 02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:39,920 had the new one we just got a few years 3727 02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,400 ago plus this one that we've had. It's a 3728 02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:44,079 200 3729 02:12:44,079 --> 02:12:45,280 >> eight eight or nine. I can't remember if 3730 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:49,599 it's eight or nine. Um so, um we've 3731 02:12:49,599 --> 02:12:51,520 generally always just had one engine for 3732 02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:53,520 our community except for when we bother. 3733 02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:55,599 We hung on to this one primarily because 3734 02:12:55,599 --> 02:12:57,679 we're EMAC contract program with the 3735 02:12:57,679 --> 02:12:58,880 state and we thought well if our other 3736 02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:00,639 one could go out on EMACs and make us 3737 02:13:00,639 --> 02:13:02,239 some money, we'd have this one in town 3738 02:13:02,239 --> 02:13:05,360 to cover. But in the four years that 3739 02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:07,119 we've been doing EMAC, we've been on one 3740 02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:09,599 EMAC deployment. So, it's it's like it's 3741 02:13:09,599 --> 02:13:11,360 kind of not worth the value of keeping 3742 02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:12,800 it and 3743 02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:14,079 >> the maintenance and the insurance 3744 02:13:14,079 --> 02:13:15,440 >> maintenance and then all that stuff. 3745 02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:18,079 Plus, um if something were to happen in 3746 02:13:18,079 --> 02:13:19,599 our city, we've still got our structure 3747 02:13:19,599 --> 02:13:21,440 engine plus we've got four other 3748 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,440 communities coming. Uh 3749 02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:24,320 >> that's what I say. We have the 3750 02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:25,360 interlocal agreements. 3751 02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:27,119 >> Got the interlocal mutual aid agreement. 3752 02:13:27,119 --> 02:13:28,719 So Spanish would come with two engines, 3753 02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:30,480 Salem with two engines, PAC's coming, 3754 02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:31,840 Elkridge, we've got all these 3755 02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:33,440 communities that'll be bringing engines 3756 02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,599 and just like we do to them to agree. 3757 02:13:35,599 --> 02:13:40,800 >> The only concern I could see is 3758 02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:44,320 when this truck gets to a certain age, 3759 02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:46,719 ISO says we need to get a new one or get 3760 02:13:46,719 --> 02:13:50,560 this one rebuilt. Um, we could have one 3761 02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:53,599 sitting there already. There are options 3762 02:13:53,599 --> 02:13:55,119 where you can actually lease one while 3763 02:13:55,119 --> 02:13:57,840 you're getting yours done or we order 3764 02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:00,000 another another engine and do this do 3765 02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:01,360 the same same kind of thing. We'll have 3766 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:05,599 to do an investigation on on what that takes cuz a rebuild is really 3767 02:14:05,599 --> 02:14:07,360 expensive. It takes a long time. 3768 02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:10,400 >> Um and we just they determined before it 3769 02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:12,239 was better just to buy a new truck. So 3770 02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:13,760 we just do that investigation when that 3771 02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:15,440 time comes. Um 3772 02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:17,440 >> well we need an ambulance that works all 3773 02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:19,840 the time more than we need a backup. So, 3774 02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:24,639 just on on that, um Saturday we went 3775 02:14:24,639 --> 02:14:29,199 down to Hanks Ranch. You probably saw Ted's post. Um when I got 3776 02:14:29,199 --> 02:14:31,520 back from Hanks, I needed to fill up the 3777 02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:35,840 gas in the the pump on that truck. Um 3778 02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:37,440 so, I went to go get some gloves out of 3779 02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:40,159 the ambulance and there was a light on 3780 02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:41,840 inside the ambulance and I couldn't get 3781 02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:44,719 it to go off and the charger wasn't 3782 02:14:44,719 --> 02:14:47,599 working. Um, and I spent a couple hours 3783 02:14:47,599 --> 02:14:49,440 down here trying to figure this thing 3784 02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:50,880 out, going through it, making phone 3785 02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:52,400 calls. 3786 02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:54,239 Don't know how I got it to work, but I 3787 02:14:54,239 --> 02:14:55,760 got it to work. I reset everything and 3788 02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:58,320 it finally started working again. Um, I 3789 02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:00,079 actually had to remove a light because 3790 02:15:00,079 --> 02:15:02,159 it won't shut off and it's draining the 3791 02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:03,440 battery and we've had that thing. We 3792 02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:05,360 just put batteries in it because it 3793 02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:08,880 didn't start the other day. Um, so we're 3794 02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:10,800 I'm I'm seeing more and more problems. 3795 02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:13,520 And for us to sell it, you know, that's 3796 02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:15,840 like a $6,000 inverter that's inside of 3797 02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:18,079 there, $3 to $6,000. 3798 02:15:18,079 --> 02:15:20,000 And for us to sell it without that, it's 3799 02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:22,560 going to, you know, decrease that value. 3800 02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:25,040 Um, so I I we really need to jump on 3801 02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:28,159 this sooner sooner than later. Um, we're 3802 02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:30,800 cons I'm continually having issues with 3803 02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:34,239 that ambulance. Um, and and trying to 3804 02:15:34,239 --> 02:15:35,280 keep it roadworthy. 3805 02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:38,239 >> I have a question for you. Um Ted, when 3806 02:15:38,239 --> 02:15:40,560 we bought the new fire engine, we were 3807 02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,199 also going to start a capital fund for 3808 02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:45,599 replacement of a new fire engine in the 3809 02:15:45,599 --> 02:15:48,159 future, but we got rid of a lot of our 3810 02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:51,280 capital project for a road. So, are we 3811 02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:54,000 no longer saving money for the fire 3812 02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:54,320 truck? 3813 02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:56,560 >> Talked about the leases. Yeah. At 3814 02:15:56,560 --> 02:15:57,920 >> So, we can either switch to a leisure 3815 02:15:57,920 --> 02:15:59,360 like this right now, it's just on a we 3816 02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:01,199 got bond for it, we're just paying bond. 3817 02:16:01,199 --> 02:16:02,639 So, I just wanted to make sure that 3818 02:16:02,639 --> 02:16:04,800 everybody knows that when we talk about 3819 02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:06,960 all of these different moving parts that 3820 02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:09,119 we have changed our mind through the 3821 02:16:09,119 --> 02:16:11,679 last few years on how we might have a 3822 02:16:11,679 --> 02:16:14,960 fire engine and keep one in in town all 3823 02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:16,719 the time and it's a safety issue. We 3824 02:16:16,719 --> 02:16:18,159 don't want anyone to be concerned that 3825 02:16:18,159 --> 02:16:20,880 we're we won't have service if we sell 3826 02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:21,280 one, 3827 02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:23,360 >> right? No. No. We will never go without 3828 02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:24,239 service in our city. 3829 02:16:24,239 --> 02:16:25,199 >> Yeah. 3830 02:16:25,199 --> 02:16:27,040 >> I just wanted to make sure that in case 3831 02:16:27,040 --> 02:16:29,840 anyone's listening or wants to listen. 3832 02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:32,319 Hey, awesome. Any other questions? 3833 02:16:32,319 --> 02:16:35,280 >> I have a question. Because it's such a 3834 02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,639 unique vehicle, I'm wondering if you 3835 02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:41,120 maybe want to contact if it's decided, 3836 02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:43,120 yes, you're selling, contact like Park 3837 02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:45,599 City and Chemist and some of and and 3838 02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:46,880 then smaller communities that are 3839 02:16:46,880 --> 02:16:48,880 similar to us 3840 02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:50,960 and not have to pay the fee. 3841 02:16:50,960 --> 02:16:53,599 >> Well, we can we're we can list it for 3842 02:16:53,599 --> 02:16:56,559 free on on many places as well. So there 3843 02:16:56,559 --> 02:16:59,519 not all of them require require those 3844 02:16:59,519 --> 02:17:01,200 kind of fees. So that's all I'm I'm 3845 02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:02,880 investigating going through all of that 3846 02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:04,639 trying to figure out the best option for 3847 02:17:04,639 --> 02:17:06,559 us. There's sites that'll buy it 3848 02:17:06,559 --> 02:17:08,160 straight from us and then they resell 3849 02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:08,960 them. 3850 02:17:08,960 --> 02:17:11,200 >> So there's lots of options and I can't 3851 02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:12,960 make a decision until 3852 02:17:12,960 --> 02:17:14,639 >> Do you need a youth group to have a 3853 02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:18,319 class on how to detail a vehicle? 3854 02:17:18,319 --> 02:17:20,399 >> Cuz you know whatever. 3855 02:17:20,399 --> 02:17:22,080 >> We actually keep our vehicles really 3856 02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:24,960 clean. You'll find that um our fire 3857 02:17:24,960 --> 02:17:26,160 department and a lot of fire 3858 02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:27,760 departments, but ours I think in 3859 02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:30,639 particular um we we care about that 3860 02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:33,120 equipment. We all know that's defending 3861 02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:36,399 us and we take really good care of it. 3862 02:17:36,399 --> 02:17:37,840 So they're in pretty good shape. 3863 02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:39,599 >> I like your idea. We maybe have a youth 3864 02:17:39,599 --> 02:17:42,399 activ. 3865 02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:43,120 >> Yeah. 3866 02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:45,359 >> Okay. Um we're going to go to department 3867 02:17:45,359 --> 02:17:47,519 reports and a reminder five minutes or 3868 02:17:47,519 --> 02:17:50,950 less. 3869 02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:52,319 » Yeah. I really I mean you guys have 3870 02:17:52,319 --> 02:17:54,319 heard enough from me tonight. Uh public 3871 02:17:54,319 --> 02:17:55,599 works I don't know that I got any 3872 02:17:55,599 --> 02:17:58,000 updates right on public work side 3873 02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:00,800 fireside uh our wild fire crew is still 3874 02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:03,359 in Nebraska and uh they'll be there 3875 02:18:03,359 --> 02:18:04,880 through their full deployment which ends 3876 02:18:04,880 --> 02:18:06,960 I think this weekend unless they request 3877 02:18:06,960 --> 02:18:09,679 them for an extension. Um but at the 3878 02:18:09,679 --> 02:18:11,359 same time while while our crews been up 3879 02:18:11,359 --> 02:18:12,960 there Texas has also been requesting 3880 02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:15,280 more people from our state too again. 3881 02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:17,280 So, I think it's going to be a busy 3882 02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:20,240 year. Uh, which is which is bad for the 3883 02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:21,840 fire environment, good for our fire crew 3884 02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:23,679 because it makes the city a bunch of 3885 02:18:23,679 --> 02:18:26,240 money. But, um, so I think I think 3886 02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:29,439 they'll be pretty busy this year. Um, we 3887 02:18:29,439 --> 02:18:30,639 do have, like I said, we've been 3888 02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:32,880 coordinating some, uh, mitigation work 3889 02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:34,319 in the city as well with chipper days 3890 02:18:34,319 --> 02:18:35,679 and the states been coordinating some 3891 02:18:35,679 --> 02:18:37,120 stuff. So, continue to work through that 3892 02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:38,399 with them through some agreements and 3893 02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:38,880 stuff like that. 3894 02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:40,000 >> When do you think we'll be able to 3895 02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:42,399 announce the date for the spring chipper 3896 02:18:42,399 --> 02:18:43,679 days? 3897 02:18:43,679 --> 02:18:45,200 >> I've been talking. lets me be. 3898 02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:46,880 >> I tell the residents we usually do it 3899 02:18:46,880 --> 02:18:49,599 sometime towards the middle to end of 3900 02:18:49,599 --> 02:18:51,359 May or beginning of June. That's what 3901 02:18:51,359 --> 02:18:53,679 I've been telling. Is that maybe the 3902 02:18:53,679 --> 02:18:55,120 same possibility? Keep telling them 3903 02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:55,599 that. 3904 02:18:55,599 --> 02:18:58,559 >> But keep remembering that if the county 3905 02:18:58,559 --> 02:19:00,559 crew gets called off. 3906 02:19:00,559 --> 02:19:01,439 >> Yeah. They don't come. 3907 02:19:01,439 --> 02:19:05,439 >> They're not going to be here. And so you have to have a way to get rid of 3908 02:19:05,439 --> 02:19:07,679 those branches possibly yourselves. 3909 02:19:07,679 --> 02:19:08,880 >> Yep. 3910 02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:09,920 >> They're already 3911 02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:11,760 >> Do you want them to start Do you want 3912 02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:13,519 citizens to start um 3913 02:19:13,519 --> 02:19:15,920 >> No. doing it now. We'll send an 3914 02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:17,519 announcement. We'll make to make sure. 3915 02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:18,399 Well, I know 3916 02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:20,000 >> there have been several doing it. 3917 02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:21,519 >> Yeah, I've seen several of them doing 3918 02:19:21,519 --> 02:19:21,840 it. 3919 02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:23,120 >> With the good weather we've had this 3920 02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:24,160 year, I think people are getting 3921 02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:25,359 excited. They're out clearing their 3922 02:19:25,359 --> 02:19:27,040 lots, which I mean, it's a good thing 3923 02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:29,120 they're clearing their lots, right? Um, 3924 02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:30,639 usually if they call us, Jody's going to 3925 02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:32,000 tell them stack it back away from the 3926 02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:33,040 street for now 3927 02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:35,920 >> and then when we get ready for at bring 3928 02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:37,359 it out to the street, but stack it 3929 02:19:37,359 --> 02:19:38,719 somewhere away from the street right 3930 02:19:38,719 --> 02:19:39,920 now. That's what we tell them. Although 3931 02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:40,639 not everybody calls. 3932 02:19:40,639 --> 02:19:42,399 >> That's a fire hazard, too. Stacking all 3933 02:19:42,399 --> 02:19:44,399 that. Yeah. 3934 02:19:44,399 --> 02:19:45,760 >> Yep. 3935 02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:47,120 >> Want to clarify because we I've been 3936 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:48,160 getting quite a few calls. 3937 02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:50,319 >> Yeah. Everyone's excited. 3938 02:19:50,319 --> 02:19:51,280 >> So, 3939 02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:52,399 >> that's all I have unless you have any 3940 02:19:52,399 --> 02:19:54,240 questions. 3941 02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:58,550 >> Lane, anything from code enforcement? 3942 02:19:58,560 --> 02:19:59,520 » Yes, it is. 3943 02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:02,160 >> Just update. I don't have any code 3944 02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:04,399 enforcement, but planning commission has 3945 02:20:04,399 --> 02:20:07,680 finished the review of the general plan 3946 02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:09,920 and uh gave the last segment of it to 3947 02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:12,640 the mayor who's putting it together. I 3948 02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:14,160 know. I think I understand that he's 3949 02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:16,479 given you some of the initial results. 3950 02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:17,840 >> Yeah, we have a section I need to work 3951 02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:19,359 on. 3952 02:20:19,359 --> 02:20:21,280 >> 72 pages worth. 3953 02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:23,280 >> Steve worked hard on it. He he 3954 02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,200 >> I sent the mayor some as 3955 02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:28,080 >> our plan is in uh May to have a public 3956 02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:30,960 hearing which will be accumulation of 3957 02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:34,160 all of your comments into it and so 3958 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:37,120 forth and a final document that will be 3959 02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:39,120 available to the public for them to 3960 02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:42,319 comment should should they want to. So, 3961 02:20:42,319 --> 02:20:44,000 that's the timetable we're on. 3962 02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:47,120 >> Okay. Thank you. 3963 02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:50,160 >> All right. Um, we'll skip the mayor's 3964 02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,240 because he's not here and he's trying to 3965 02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:53,680 have a vacation, but I don't know how 3966 02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:56,560 much vacation he's gotten. So, council 3967 02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:58,080 member Hutchkins. 3968 02:20:58,080 --> 02:20:59,680 >> So, I missed our last planning 3969 02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:02,640 commission. I was busy with stuff from 3970 02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:06,720 work and so you heard what my name. 3971 02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:10,399 >> Okay. Um, Council Member Jones. So, 3972 02:21:10,399 --> 02:21:11,920 we're going to be kicking off safety 3973 02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:13,200 meeting. I think we're going to do one 3974 02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:15,600 on the 16th, which is it should be right 3975 02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:20,000 before we start our like 3976 02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:20,960 days. Yeah. 3977 02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:21,760 >> Okay. 3978 02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:22,720 >> Maple days. 3979 02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:25,200 All that stuff. 3980 02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:26,560 >> Yeah. We'll probably 3981 02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:29,280 >> probably have a a safety meeting and 3982 02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:31,280 start some of that stuff, but we'll send 3983 02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:34,720 out an announcement so we're all sure. 3984 02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:37,920 >> Okay. Anything else? 3985 02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:40,880 >> All right. Um, so council member let me 3986 02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:43,680 So newsletter time reminder. I got a 3987 02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:46,000 Wayne's world today. I noticed. So thank 3988 02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:48,960 you. Um, and then 3989 02:21:48,960 --> 02:21:50,640 >> who agreed to this month? Who? 3990 02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:51,600 >> Yeah. Who? Which count? 3991 02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:54,080 >> I have forgotten when I 3992 02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:56,800 >> It's on my computer. I'll send a text. 3993 02:21:56,800 --> 02:21:57,680 >> Send a reminder. 3994 02:21:57,680 --> 02:21:59,359 >> I kind of forget which month is I'm 3995 02:21:59,359 --> 02:22:00,479 supposed to do it. 3996 02:22:00,479 --> 02:22:02,319 >> Yep. I have a I actually have a little 3997 02:22:02,319 --> 02:22:04,640 sticky note somewhere. I'll find it. I 3998 02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:05,920 know where it is. I'll tell you before 3999 02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:07,840 the meeting's over. Um, just when it's 4000 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:11,520 not my turn. Um, and then thank you, 4001 02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:13,439 Ted. You know what I was thinking? I 4002 02:22:13,439 --> 02:22:15,680 asked last time for the posts up for 4003 02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:18,240 banner for our events. You know why 4004 02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:19,680 that's even more important? And they 4005 02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,840 did. It's I noticed on Sunday that the 4006 02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,760 posts were up, but when they start 4007 02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:24,960 construction on the roundabout, we're 4008 02:22:24,960 --> 02:22:27,200 going to lose that other spot. So, that 4009 02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:28,640 one's going to be really critical. So, 4010 02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:29,040 thank you. 4011 02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:30,240 >> We'll have to move that other one up 4012 02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:33,040 there, too. I noticed that. 4013 02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:36,319 >> Yeah. So, did a great job. 4014 02:22:36,319 --> 02:22:39,280 >> Yeah. Thank you for that. Um, we do have 4015 02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:42,240 Maple Fest coming up. Uh, that is April 4016 02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:43,760 18th. 4017 02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:46,479 And so, um, there is the Maple Canyon 4018 02:22:46,479 --> 02:22:48,160 Ward, the primary children at the Maple 4019 02:22:48,160 --> 02:22:51,040 Canyon Ward on April 17th. They're going 4020 02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:52,800 to go up to the park and just clean it 4021 02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:54,080 up. So, they're going to bring garbage 4022 02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:56,560 bags and rakes and gloves and shovels 4023 02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:59,120 and pooper scoopers and they're just 4024 02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:00,800 going to clean up the park and get it 4025 02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:03,600 really nice. Um they requested and Ted 4026 02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:05,120 already we coordinated that to make sure 4027 02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:07,439 the water's on so they can spray off the 4028 02:23:07,439 --> 02:23:08,880 pavilion and everything. They're just 4029 02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:10,720 going to freshen up the park before the 4030 02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:12,640 maple festival. So that's awesome. And 4031 02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:14,319 they're inviting anybody that wants to 4032 02:23:14,319 --> 02:23:16,479 come and help. 4033 02:23:16,479 --> 02:23:17,680 >> What time? 4034 02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:20,399 >> Um I have a flyer, but it's uh 6:30 to 4035 02:23:20,399 --> 02:23:23,280 7:30 p.m. at the at the city park. And 4036 02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:24,399 if it's longer 4037 02:23:24,399 --> 02:23:25,280 >> 6:30. 4038 02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:26,000 >> Uhhuh. 4039 02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:28,640 >> So Friday, April 17th at 6:30. And they 4040 02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:30,240 gave me a little flyer that I'll put in 4041 02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:32,479 the newsletter and I'll get it posted 4042 02:23:32,479 --> 02:23:34,399 >> because the 18th is the Maple Fest. 4043 02:23:34,399 --> 02:23:35,920 >> Uhhuh. Cuz the 18th is the Maple 4044 02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:38,800 Festival. Um I do have a question on the 4045 02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:40,880 Maple Festival. Uh one of the things 4046 02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:42,720 that Amanda asked me to do was get the 4047 02:23:42,720 --> 02:23:44,399 flag ceremony and I don't know who did 4048 02:23:44,399 --> 02:23:46,399 it last year. 4049 02:23:46,399 --> 02:23:49,120 >> I know we used 4050 02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:50,080 it. 4051 02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:52,800 >> Did the BFW do it last year at 4052 02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:54,479 >> I think it was. Yeah. 4053 02:23:54,479 --> 02:23:55,280 >> I need to 4054 02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:57,280 >> I know they did at the Golden Hills 4055 02:23:57,280 --> 02:23:59,439 days. Hills days they may have been able 4056 02:23:59,439 --> 02:24:00,080 I don't think 4057 02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:02,560 >> you can reach out to Bill Collins cuz he 4058 02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:04,560 was I think involved with that. 4059 02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:04,880 >> Okay. 4060 02:24:04,880 --> 02:24:06,720 >> He's going on a mission though in a 4061 02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:07,680 couple of weeks. So 4062 02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:08,240 >> I know 4063 02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:10,000 >> get a hold of him now and get a contact. 4064 02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:11,680 >> I'll call him tomorrow. Just ask him 4065 02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:12,479 who. 4066 02:24:12,479 --> 02:24:12,960 >> Yeah. 4067 02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:17,200 >> Okay. I can do that. Perfect. And then I 4068 02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:19,680 think that's all. Yeah, that's all I've 4069 02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:23,520 got. So let's see. Let's go to Council 4070 02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:25,840 Member Malovich. Okay. So earlier 4071 02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:29,120 tonight, um, I sent you an email with 4072 02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:33,439 the slide deck of 121 slides that, uh, 4073 02:24:33,439 --> 02:24:35,120 kind of a wrap-up of the legislative 4074 02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:39,200 session. We had a 100, 2016 bills that 4075 02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:43,040 were introduced and numbered. Um, we as 4076 02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:44,960 the Utah League of Cities and Towns in 4077 02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:47,600 Woodland Hills, we tracked 243 of those 4078 02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:50,399 bills and in the end, out of all the 4079 02:24:50,399 --> 02:24:54,720 bills, 541 were passed. Um the slide 4080 02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:56,720 deck I sent you is kind of divides it up 4081 02:24:56,720 --> 02:24:59,680 in uh between the housing and land use 4082 02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:01,520 bills that were we thought were most 4083 02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:04,640 important. All 243 are not on that slide 4084 02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:08,080 deck of 121. Um so housing and land use, 4085 02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:10,240 revenue and taxes, water, economic 4086 02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:13,439 development, elections, homelessness, 4087 02:25:13,439 --> 02:25:15,280 uh public safety, general government, 4088 02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:17,439 and transportation. We they're kind of 4089 02:25:17,439 --> 02:25:22,160 um put into those categories. Um, 4090 02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:24,560 a lot is going on and it will still go 4091 02:25:24,560 --> 02:25:28,240 on. Interim meetings um begin again um 4092 02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,479 in they take April off but they begin 4093 02:25:30,479 --> 02:25:34,080 again in May. So we'll be looking to see 4094 02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:36,479 if there's any other changes. Some of 4095 02:25:36,479 --> 02:25:38,160 the things that didn't pass are going to 4096 02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:39,840 be brought back up and we'll start 4097 02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:41,359 seeing those in the committees starting 4098 02:25:41,359 --> 02:25:44,800 in May. Um again like kind of like the 4099 02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:47,200 Jod said, we'll talk about some of them 4100 02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:50,160 at the league meetings and St. George. 4101 02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:52,240 But anyways, when you have a moment, go 4102 02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:54,399 through those slides and if you have any 4103 02:25:54,399 --> 02:25:56,800 questions about them, just contact me. 4104 02:25:56,800 --> 02:25:58,640 >> Thank you for providing those and not 4105 02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:01,200 going through them tonight. 4106 02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:01,520 >> Yes, 4107 02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:03,359 >> there's no way I was going to cuz 4108 02:26:03,359 --> 02:26:05,040 there's no reason there's no reason to. 4109 02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:07,040 They're all passed and well, some of 4110 02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:08,720 them on the slide are showing ones that 4111 02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:10,319 didn't pass. Some of the ones that we 4112 02:26:10,319 --> 02:26:13,359 worked against and didn't pass. And so 4113 02:26:13,359 --> 02:26:15,920 that's al also a good thing to know that 4114 02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:21,120 how many we were able to um report. 4115 02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:22,880 >> Awesome. And you have the I need the 4116 02:26:22,880 --> 02:26:24,560 article from you. I just texted. 4117 02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:27,439 >> Okay. Um and then council member Roden. 4118 02:26:27,439 --> 02:26:32,640 >> Yes. So, uh, last meeting, um, Council 4119 02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:35,040 Member Hutchkins asked a request that I 4120 02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:39,040 work with, um, Nebo, um, Interactive on 4121 02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:43,840 our, uh, uh, digital storage. Uh, that 4122 02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:46,399 would include, um, our council meetings, 4123 02:26:46,399 --> 02:26:48,000 etc. Right now, a lot of our all of our 4124 02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:49,920 backup, I think right now, Jod's on a on 4125 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:52,000 a physical drive. We've been looking at 4126 02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:56,240 options for um, a cloud service to be 4127 02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:59,200 able to handle that. Um Brett and I 4128 02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:02,880 spoke uh earlier early in last week uh 4129 02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:04,240 we had talked about several different 4130 02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:06,000 solutions. One just getting just for 4131 02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:09,040 those know uh Amazon Web Services AWS 4132 02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:10,640 you can just get what they call an S3 4133 02:27:10,640 --> 02:27:12,240 bucket. It's basically just a storage 4134 02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:14,800 and you just load files there. Easy 4135 02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:20,000 enough, uh, inexpensive enough, but the I wouldn't call them management 4136 02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:21,840 tools, but it's not a great interface if 4137 02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,640 you're not used to logging into an AWS 4138 02:27:24,640 --> 02:27:26,160 environment and having all the different 4139 02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:27,680 protocols you need to have just to even 4140 02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:30,080 access an S3 bucket. We do already have 4141 02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:32,160 something called iDrive that that is a 4142 02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:35,520 cloud service. I think he spoke, Brett 4143 02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:38,319 and Jody spoke. um we feel that is an 4144 02:27:38,319 --> 02:27:40,000 adequate solution for now considering 4145 02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:41,920 the amount of storage that we need and 4146 02:27:41,920 --> 02:27:45,600 so we'll be doing a backup uh a backup 4147 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:46,880 system in in iDrive. 4148 02:27:46,880 --> 02:27:49,680 >> Will that change if if we do all this 4149 02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:50,960 document scanning? 4150 02:27:50,960 --> 02:27:52,399 >> I don't know where the document scanning 4151 02:27:52,399 --> 02:27:53,520 is going to live. I think the document 4152 02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:55,920 scanning actually lives on hard drives 4153 02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:56,640 and then 4154 02:27:56,640 --> 02:27:57,040 >> Okay. 4155 02:27:57,040 --> 02:27:59,200 >> Yeah. So now if we want to move it 4156 02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:02,000 document images are really again easy 4157 02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:04,160 and cheap. Um, it may be something that 4158 02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:06,399 we could do. Um, but that would probably 4159 02:28:06,399 --> 02:28:08,640 not be a service that we'd have UCI do. 4160 02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:10,080 We'd probably do that on our own where 4161 02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:11,840 we would just upload what we get in 4162 02:28:11,840 --> 02:28:14,720 physical storage. So, but that that 4163 02:28:14,720 --> 02:28:15,920 would definitely be something that we 4164 02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:17,760 can look at. And at that point, we might 4165 02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:19,680 have we might exceed what we have in 4166 02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:20,880 iDrive or we might need to move. 4167 02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:23,760 >> Okay. So, thank you. That is my update. 4168 02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:25,680 >> Hey, is there anything for upcoming city 4169 02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:28,240 council meetings that you want to added 4170 02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:30,479 to the agenda? If you think of something 4171 02:28:30,479 --> 02:28:32,319 um like this time Brian just emailed 4172 02:28:32,319 --> 02:28:34,160 over and said what he you know what for 4173 02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:35,600 the sell the track. So if you think of 4174 02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:37,359 something that needs to be added just 4175 02:28:37,359 --> 02:28:40,560 email it over to Ben and Jody we can get 4176 02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:42,800 it added. All right. Um I think we'll 4177 02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:44,319 forego the break. Does anybody need 4178 02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:46,160 another break? 4179 02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:50,800 Okay. So, we will call to order um our 4180 02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:52,720 city council meeting and we'll have an 4181 02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:55,760 invocation by member uh council member 4182 02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:57,040 Steve Johns and then a pledge of 4183 02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:02,790 allegiance by council member Dan. 4184 02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:04,560 » Our father in heaven, we're grateful to 4185 02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:07,840 be able to meet together as a city staff 4186 02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:11,200 and public and discuss the needs of the 4187 02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:12,880 city. We're grateful for the city that 4188 02:29:12,880 --> 02:29:15,760 we live in and for the fellowship that 4189 02:29:15,760 --> 02:29:18,399 we have here living in the city and and 4190 02:29:18,399 --> 02:29:20,080 for all the beauty that we are 4191 02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:22,240 surrounded by. We pray that tonight we 4192 02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:25,840 can be well-guided uh with good 4193 02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:28,479 intentions that benefit 4194 02:29:28,479 --> 02:29:30,640 the city as a whole and and the 4195 02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:34,160 residents and can be and continue to be 4196 02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:37,359 a beacon for for the state and and those 4197 02:29:37,359 --> 02:29:39,600 around us. We pray for these things in 4198 02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:43,439 the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. 4199 02:29:43,439 --> 02:29:47,830 >> Please rise for the flag. 4200 02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:51,280 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the 4201 02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:54,240 United States of America and to the 4202 02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:58,080 republic for which it stands, one nation 4203 02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:01,920 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 4204 02:30:01,920 --> 02:30:05,920 justice for all. Thank you. 4205 02:30:05,920 --> 02:30:07,600 >> Can I just say how grateful I am that we 4206 02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:11,520 always do that? I love that. Um, public 4207 02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:14,000 comment two minutes or less. Does anyone 4208 02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:15,600 have any comments? 4209 02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:16,720 >> Doral. 4210 02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:19,040 Hi, Doral. 4211 02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:22,240 >> Hi. I just have two comments about the 4212 02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:25,040 budget. I like I like what you all did 4213 02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:27,600 this evening. That was well done. These 4214 02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:29,520 are these are two important things I'd 4215 02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:31,760 like you to consider. 4216 02:30:31,760 --> 02:30:35,600 I would like the city to cover travel 4217 02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:41,040 and food expenses for any city 4218 02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:44,240 um official or employees that travel to 4219 02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:47,520 training. We need to cover their food 4220 02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:49,680 and their travel expenses. That should 4221 02:30:49,680 --> 02:30:51,439 not be an expense to your individual 4222 02:30:51,439 --> 02:30:52,880 families. 4223 02:30:52,880 --> 02:30:55,439 >> Number number two, 4224 02:30:55,439 --> 02:30:57,600 >> just clarification on that. Are you are 4225 02:30:57,600 --> 02:30:59,520 you saying for even for the council? 4226 02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:02,640 >> Yes. Especially for the council, mayor 4227 02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:04,880 and city employees. If they travel 4228 02:31:04,880 --> 02:31:08,240 somewhere, we need to pay their travel 4229 02:31:08,240 --> 02:31:10,479 and food expenses. That's just what 4230 02:31:10,479 --> 02:31:12,720 anybody does. Even little companies that 4231 02:31:12,720 --> 02:31:15,200 I worked for did that my whole career. 4232 02:31:15,200 --> 02:31:17,280 Uh number two, and and this is 4233 02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:20,319 important. You've had the same salary 4234 02:31:20,319 --> 02:31:22,640 for mayor and council members in the 4235 02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:26,240 city for 20 plus years. It's time to 4236 02:31:26,240 --> 02:31:28,800 change your salaries a little bit. I 4237 02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:31,200 propose that you double the council and 4238 02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:34,160 you double the mayor's salary. That that 4239 02:31:34,160 --> 02:31:38,399 is not a difficult thing to do. It It's 4240 02:31:38,399 --> 02:31:41,760 time. You're also uh you're just 4241 02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:43,600 spending more hours than what you're 4242 02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:45,600 getting for 200 bucks a month or 500 4243 02:31:45,600 --> 02:31:47,439 bucks a month for the mayor. It's time 4244 02:31:47,439 --> 02:31:50,319 to double that. That's my proposal. 4245 02:31:50,319 --> 02:31:52,160 >> Thank you. 4246 02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:55,600 >> It's it's $160 a month, 4247 02:31:55,600 --> 02:31:59,910 >> right? I remember 8762. 4248 02:31:59,920 --> 02:32:01,359 » One time I was at a meeting and 4249 02:32:01,359 --> 02:32:03,040 everybody said, "How much do you make?" 4250 02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:05,120 And there's some that make over a few 4251 02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:06,800 thousand a month being council member 4252 02:32:06,800 --> 02:32:08,800 and they have full staff 4253 02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:11,120 >> from council staff and and so when I 4254 02:32:11,120 --> 02:32:12,560 always raise my hand and tell them what 4255 02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:14,160 we make, everybody laughs for a little 4256 02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:16,720 while. But you know, we we love to serve 4257 02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:19,359 our community and uh 4258 02:32:19,359 --> 02:32:21,439 >> but but it shouldn't be an expense to 4259 02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:23,520 your family. I'll give you a third one, 4260 02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:25,520 too, since I get to talk for just 4261 02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:29,600 another second. I want a new uh a real 4262 02:32:29,600 --> 02:32:33,040 hand towel dispenser in the men's room. 4263 02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:35,520 >> And and a light and a light. 4264 02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:37,760 >> Okay, I'll quit. Thank you. 4265 02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:40,319 >> Thank you, Dorl. 4266 02:32:40,319 --> 02:32:41,600 Anybody else? 4267 02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:43,200 >> Dispenser just need to work. 4268 02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:44,319 >> Sherry, do you have public comments? 4269 02:32:44,319 --> 02:32:45,439 >> I think the one in the women's works 4270 02:32:45,439 --> 02:32:53,990 either 4271 02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:58,000 My comment is brief. Um, 4272 02:32:58,000 --> 02:33:01,120 I was pondering a quote by Ralph Waldo 4273 02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:05,120 Emerson where he says, "In the woods we 4274 02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:10,000 return to faith and reason." 4275 02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:13,600 And I think this applies to Golden Hills 4276 02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:16,960 for sure because we are in the woods. 4277 02:33:16,960 --> 02:33:20,560 and to let you know that the citizens 4278 02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:22,720 who have voted you into the council 4279 02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:25,120 positions that you're in have a great 4280 02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:27,920 deal of faith in you 4281 02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:30,960 and I appreciate personally the 4282 02:33:30,960 --> 02:33:34,080 reasoning process that you all went 4283 02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:35,680 through tonight with regards to the 4284 02:33:35,680 --> 02:33:37,359 budget. 4285 02:33:37,359 --> 02:33:40,160 I have a comment about safety and 4286 02:33:40,160 --> 02:33:43,920 internet that or it perhaps may be 4287 02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:47,760 helpful. Um, 4288 02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:50,800 because the city ordinance codes are in 4289 02:33:50,800 --> 02:33:54,160 a PDF document, you can search them for 4290 02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:57,680 the word safety or whatever. I had 4291 02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:00,560 something, it's happened twice up in my 4292 02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:03,040 neck of the woods where 4293 02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:05,920 there have been three small children 4294 02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:08,479 and I was greatly concerned for their 4295 02:34:08,479 --> 02:34:11,520 safety. Two of them were very small, 4296 02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:15,600 were on tiny wee motorcycles, and the 4297 02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:19,439 other boy I would say is maybe 4298 02:34:19,439 --> 02:34:21,600 12, 14. 4299 02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:23,439 And 4300 02:34:23,439 --> 02:34:25,120 gosh, if something happened to those 4301 02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:27,359 little boys 4302 02:34:27,359 --> 02:34:30,080 laying it down or not following traffic 4303 02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:32,720 rules, they're supposed to be an adult 4304 02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:34,560 with them. And I think if somehow 4305 02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:40,800 between Steve and safety and Dan and it, 4306 02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:44,000 not only for us as a community, but 4307 02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:46,000 there's a lot of people from out of city 4308 02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:48,800 that come up in my neck of the woods, 4309 02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:53,760 maybe letting Oakidge know or PAC 4310 02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:55,359 Salem 4311 02:34:55,359 --> 02:34:56,960 what we're putting out there to our 4312 02:34:56,960 --> 02:34:59,760 citizens regarding safety and if it 4313 02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:03,120 could just be, you know, a address, a 4314 02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:05,760 website address. I I thought about a 4315 02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:08,880 welcome packet, but who really reads 4316 02:35:08,880 --> 02:35:11,120 paper anymore? You know, it's much 4317 02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:13,280 easier to go to a website with pictures 4318 02:35:13,280 --> 02:35:15,680 and uh descriptions where you can 4319 02:35:15,680 --> 02:35:18,080 actually see the ordinance. So, 4320 02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:19,840 >> we need like a welcome email maybe with 4321 02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:20,880 some links to 4322 02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:21,359 >> Yeah. 4323 02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:22,880 >> some of our city stuff. I've thought 4324 02:35:22,880 --> 02:35:24,880 about that. It's a question of who's 4325 02:35:24,880 --> 02:35:26,640 going to put it together, but 4326 02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:28,640 >> I do think it would be helpful. I I 4327 02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,359 still remember my first uh my first 4328 02:35:31,359 --> 02:35:34,240 siren Saturday here and nobody had told 4329 02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:36,000 me and I was home alone and my husband 4330 02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:37,439 was out of town and all the sirens went 4331 02:35:37,439 --> 02:35:41,520 off and it was in June and I I was like 4332 02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:43,439 I called my kids the sirens are going 4333 02:35:43,439 --> 02:35:46,240 off. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. Um 4334 02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:48,240 and I couldn't hear on Broad Hollow. You 4335 02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:49,760 couldn't hear the message. It was all 4336 02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:51,280 garbled. So I didn't know if it was 4337 02:35:51,280 --> 02:35:53,200 saying get out now. I didn't know what 4338 02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:55,840 it was saying. So that was 12 years ago. 4339 02:35:55,840 --> 02:35:59,040 It's gotten a little better packet from 4340 02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:01,680 our district leader. 4341 02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:04,479 >> Never anything from the city and I think 4342 02:36:04,479 --> 02:36:06,640 something could be put together to 4343 02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:09,040 inform our citizens and keep us safe. 4344 02:36:09,040 --> 02:36:09,840 >> Yep. 4345 02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:10,399 >> Thank you. 4346 02:36:10,399 --> 02:36:10,880 >> Yep. 4347 02:36:10,880 --> 02:36:11,439 >> Thank you. 4348 02:36:11,439 --> 02:36:14,080 >> Hey, anybody else? 4349 02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:16,000 >> I I have a protocol question. 4350 02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:16,560 >> Okay. 4351 02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:18,240 >> I have an idea that I want you guys to 4352 02:36:18,240 --> 02:36:20,080 chew on. Do I do it here or do I 4353 02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:20,960 >> You can do it here. 4354 02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:21,920 >> This is the right place. 4355 02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:23,520 >> This is public comment. 4356 02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:24,800 >> You can still be public and 4357 02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:25,920 >> you live here. your public 4358 02:36:25,920 --> 02:36:29,920 >> and a employee. Okay. 4359 02:36:29,920 --> 02:36:32,720 I want to propose that we set up or 4360 02:36:32,720 --> 02:36:35,520 support a certation 4361 02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:37,359 in our city. Now, 4362 02:36:37,359 --> 02:36:39,040 >> I announced that for you last week, 4363 02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:39,840 announcement. 4364 02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:41,120 >> I know, but I want to let you know what 4365 02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:42,399 I'm doing though. 4366 02:36:42,399 --> 02:36:44,640 >> We're we're such a small organiz city 4367 02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:46,960 that I actually want to talk to Elkridge 4368 02:36:46,960 --> 02:36:49,359 and Salem at the same time because they 4369 02:36:49,359 --> 02:36:51,040 don't have a search team to support 4370 02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:53,359 their cities as well. So, I believe I 4371 02:36:53,359 --> 02:36:55,200 can get those other city councils to 4372 02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:58,800 actually um help support and create that 4373 02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:00,880 um organization. And I'm proposing that 4374 02:37:00,880 --> 02:37:03,120 it runs under B Ready Academy because 4375 02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:05,280 most of the other organizations 4376 02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:07,840 throughout Utah County are all run by a 4377 02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:09,680 separate nonprofit organization that 4378 02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:11,520 works directly with the emergency center 4379 02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:16,479 of each city. Um and then that entity 4380 02:37:16,479 --> 02:37:19,280 can actually apply for grants to help 4381 02:37:19,280 --> 02:37:22,080 fund their that organization. U and get 4382 02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:24,240 the equipment they need to support a 4383 02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:27,359 city such as emergency food cooking 4384 02:37:27,359 --> 02:37:29,520 capabilities or tent cap, you know, 4385 02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:31,600 tents and stuff like that that could 4386 02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:33,439 help support us in an emergency. So, I 4387 02:37:33,439 --> 02:37:35,359 just wanted you to chew on that, guys. 4388 02:37:35,359 --> 02:37:37,680 So, I don't I don't know if it was if it 4389 02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:41,760 was part of their cert organization, 4390 02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:44,479 but it was cert members and cert 4391 02:37:44,479 --> 02:37:48,080 equipment. And I've been on a number of fires in other cities where we're 4392 02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:49,520 doing mutual aid 4393 02:37:49,520 --> 02:37:51,600 >> and the CIR members are out there. They 4394 02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:54,960 bring food and water and stuff like that 4395 02:37:54,960 --> 02:37:57,600 >> to our all the firefighters that are out 4396 02:37:57,600 --> 02:37:58,240 there out there. 4397 02:37:58,240 --> 02:37:59,760 >> That's the kind of support I'm talking 4398 02:37:59,760 --> 02:38:02,880 about. Um disaster assessments of areas 4399 02:38:02,880 --> 02:38:05,280 of our city, uh status of community 4400 02:38:05,280 --> 02:38:07,200 members. You can think of them like 4401 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:10,160 block captains on steroids. 4402 02:38:10,160 --> 02:38:12,080 >> How's that? Um cuz a lot of the wars 4403 02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:13,840 don't have black captains, but 4404 02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:15,600 >> it it's appreciated on a big fire. I 4405 02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:17,680 mean, knock on wood, we don't have 4406 02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:18,720 another one, right? 4407 02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:21,520 >> Um but it was very appreciated on fires 4408 02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:24,720 that we've been on. Um when when we're 4409 02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:27,200 out there for hours, especially in in 4410 02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:29,359 the heat, and then they bring you pizza 4411 02:38:29,359 --> 02:38:32,160 and they got cold drinks and so 4412 02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:33,600 >> it was it was good. 4413 02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:35,200 >> Ready is already working on gathering 4414 02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:37,439 some of that equipment now. Um like I 4415 02:38:37,439 --> 02:38:40,479 have a pot that I can cook 600 um meals 4416 02:38:40,479 --> 02:38:42,960 in one pot. It's 48 gallon pot steel 4417 02:38:42,960 --> 02:38:46,160 jacketed thing that's used for um I need 4418 02:38:46,160 --> 02:38:47,840 to get a steam generator for it but 4419 02:38:47,840 --> 02:38:49,600 other than that um 4420 02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:51,040 >> that's a lot of chili and a lot of other 4421 02:38:51,040 --> 02:38:51,439 food. 4422 02:38:51,439 --> 02:38:53,040 >> Have you talked to like Spanish because 4423 02:38:53,040 --> 02:38:55,120 they've got a serville has a search 4424 02:38:55,120 --> 02:38:56,080 they've been on fire. 4425 02:38:56,080 --> 02:38:59,040 >> So PAC and and Spanish uh are both 4426 02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:00,479 cities that I'm actually working with 4427 02:39:00,479 --> 02:39:02,240 them to help provide training for our 4428 02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:03,840 people. 4429 02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:07,200 So with Elidge, it was a flop when the 4430 02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:09,920 fire happened. I'll just be glimp and 4431 02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:10,560 honest. 4432 02:39:10,560 --> 02:39:11,840 >> They're sir people or 4433 02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:12,800 >> No, they're just their city. 4434 02:39:12,800 --> 02:39:15,680 >> Just everything people 4435 02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:18,720 >> there people. It was a flop. It ended up 4436 02:39:18,720 --> 02:39:22,399 being myself and 4437 02:39:22,399 --> 02:39:26,399 >> MacArthur and David Crack who ended up 4438 02:39:26,399 --> 02:39:29,840 stepping in for Alridge. So 4439 02:39:29,840 --> 02:39:30,720 >> that's 4440 02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:33,520 >> I think it does matter on the on 4441 02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:35,439 >> the support and leadership. 4442 02:39:35,439 --> 02:39:37,600 >> Yes, I agree. So I I'm still going to 4443 02:39:37,600 --> 02:39:39,120 look for somebody actually to run the 4444 02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:41,120 SER program um because I won't be be 4445 02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:43,120 able to do it, but I will work with 4446 02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:45,680 person who would be trained 4447 02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:47,600 >> having it having it go with with the 4448 02:39:47,600 --> 02:39:50,080 city in cooperation with the nonprofit 4449 02:39:50,080 --> 02:39:52,399 because we've had several s groups over 4450 02:39:52,399 --> 02:39:53,920 the years, right? And they kind of come 4451 02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:55,920 like and go like this. We had them 4452 02:39:55,920 --> 02:39:57,760 through through church. We've had them 4453 02:39:57,760 --> 02:40:00,160 through just neighborhoods wanting to do 4454 02:40:00,160 --> 02:40:03,439 it. And so it when that person then 4455 02:40:03,439 --> 02:40:05,520 leaves it goes away. So we need to make 4456 02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:07,600 sure that it's sustainable and it's 4457 02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:09,120 beneficial. 4458 02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:11,120 >> I agree. 4459 02:40:11,120 --> 02:40:13,439 Leaders leadership is everything. 4460 02:40:13,439 --> 02:40:15,600 >> Appreciate the comments. Thank you for 4461 02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:19,680 everybody. Okay. Um so then item number 4462 02:40:19,680 --> 02:40:22,399 12 is approval of February check 4463 02:40:22,399 --> 02:40:24,960 dispersements. 4464 02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:29,040 Um, does anybody want to make a motion? 4465 02:40:29,040 --> 02:40:29,359 Make a 4466 02:40:29,359 --> 02:40:32,160 >> motion. I'll second 4467 02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:33,040 motion. 4468 02:40:33,040 --> 02:40:35,280 >> Dan Roden. 4469 02:40:35,280 --> 02:40:39,600 >> Carrie was the second. Um, all in favor? 4470 02:40:39,600 --> 02:40:41,439 >> I I 4471 02:40:41,439 --> 02:40:44,479 >> Any opposed 4472 02:40:44,479 --> 02:40:45,760 because we don't have to do a we don't 4473 02:40:45,760 --> 02:40:48,640 have to do a call, roll call, right? 4474 02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:52,560 >> Okay. Um, and then we need to number 13 4475 02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:55,840 is the decision on selling engine 192. 4476 02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:57,200 >> I'll make a motion. 4477 02:40:57,200 --> 02:40:59,280 >> I'll second 4478 02:40:59,280 --> 02:41:00,880 >> to sell it or not to 4479 02:41:00,880 --> 02:41:04,080 >> to sell it. 4480 02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:07,920 Okay. Uh, so all in favor 4481 02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:09,200 >> I 4482 02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:13,349 >> and I. Any opposed? 4483 02:41:13,359 --> 02:41:16,640 Okay, those both of those motions pass. 4484 02:41:16,640 --> 02:41:18,160 Um, 4485 02:41:18,160 --> 02:41:22,240 do we need to go in close session? 4486 02:41:22,240 --> 02:41:24,160 >> You have an update. 4487 02:41:24,160 --> 02:41:25,840 >> Like to see if we have an update. 4488 02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:27,359 >> We have an update. Do we need the mayor 4489 02:41:27,359 --> 02:41:30,240 for the update? Should I text him 4490 02:41:30,240 --> 02:41:31,439 >> or can 4491 02:41:31,439 --> 02:41:32,560 >> Please text him. 4492 02:41:32,560 --> 02:41:34,560 >> I think it would be appropriate to text 4493 02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:34,800 him. 4494 02:41:34,800 --> 02:41:36,319 >> Okay, I'll text him. 4495 02:41:36,319 --> 02:41:37,840 >> I'll make a motion we go into close 4496 02:41:37,840 --> 02:41:38,319 session. 4497 02:41:38,319 --> 02:41:41,280 >> I'll second it. All in favor? 4498 02:41:41,280 --> 02:41:42,560 >> I. 4499 02:41:42,560 --> 02:41:44,880 >> This request a roll call, right? 4500 02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:47,120 >> Yes, it does. Oh, yep. Look at you. 4501 02:41:47,120 --> 02:41:48,800 >> And you can also state why we're going 4502 02:41:48,800 --> 02:41:50,800 to go into close session. 4503 02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:52,479 >> Just for we're going to go into close 4504 02:41:52,479 --> 02:41:54,240 session for a legal update. 4505 02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:55,920 >> A legal update. 4506 02:41:55,920 --> 02:41:59,680 >> So, um, Council Member Malovich, 4507 02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:00,479 >> yes. 4508 02:42:00,479 --> 02:42:03,040 >> Council member John's. Council member 4509 02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:03,680 Hutchkins, 4510 02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:04,720 >> yes. 4511 02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:05,920 >> Council member Roden, 4512 02:42:05,920 --> 02:42:06,399 >> yes. 4513 02:42:06,399 --> 02:42:09,520 >> Council member Lent, yes. Okay. Um, 4514 02:42:09,520 --> 02:42:10,640 we'll go into 4515 02:42:10,640 --> 02:42:12,960 >> Definitely need a new sign session. I do 4516 02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:15,359 >> the recording. 4517 02:42:15,359 --> 02:42:17,520 The meeting has been unlocked. 4518 02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:18,080 >> Yes. 4519 02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:21,120 >> So that you can see who is there and we 4520 02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:23,439 don't get any acquisitions that All 4521 02:42:23,439 --> 02:42:23,760 right. 4522 02:42:23,760 --> 02:42:26,080 >> I didn't unlock it. So 4523 02:42:26,080 --> 02:42:27,439 >> that must have happened before. 4524 02:42:27,439 --> 02:42:29,680 >> I make a motion to adjourn the meeting. 4525 02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:30,960 >> I'll second that motion. 4526 02:42:30,960 --> 02:42:32,160 >> I'll third it. 4527 02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:34,080 >> All All in favor? 4528 02:42:34,080 --> 02:42:34,960 >> I. 4529 02:42:34,960 --> 02:42:37,520 >> Okay. Meeting is adjourned. 4530 02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:41,840 >> You didn't take advantage of the no