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Okay. It's 501.

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We will call this meeting to order. This

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is Kirsten Thompson, Community

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Development Committee Chair. We have,

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sorry, I have to keep notes on my phone.

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We have in attendance myself, Kirsten

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John's. Um in attendance today um

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excused from today's meeting is Chloe

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Cleveland and Severin unless they come

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later and also our um city council

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no minutes.

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I sent the meeting minutes from our last

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meeting held in January. We had a little

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whether or not we should go all in on

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proceeding with the strategic plan. Told

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to go on hold, then told to keep going.

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circulated those minutes. So if we have

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um if we can approve those minutes. Make

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a motion to approve the January 2026

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Let me just write that down.

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with that in order. Oh, hello.

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>> Hello. We have a printed agenda.

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will move your name up to attending.

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>> Hey, 502.

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Okay. Well, we just approved our last

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meeting minutes. We didn't hold I was

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just saying we didn't hold a meeting

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last month. We were kind of told to go

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on hold but then told to proceed. So we

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strategic plan together. Daniel, do you

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want to just give well first and we need

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to get an update on budget just to have

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on public record and then two get an

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update on you can hold that later if you

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need to and then update on you've met

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with a few different city employees and

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the progress on the strategic plan. And

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as a council, we did receive part of the planning commission's

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recommendations.

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>> I think you guys got like the first half

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of the general plan or something.

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cuz I can't remember which is half,

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which way is half, but we got part of

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through six. Is this just old stuff or

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is this Oh, here's the de here's the

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reigns? Yeah, sure. And when you were

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saying chapters 1 through six, what what

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draft. I don't know if it was

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committee approved. I don't have the

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edits that actually make sense. So this

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what made a recommendation on a portion

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to Ben. All of it has passed on to me,

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but um but because the mayor was looking

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over it first and then he was doing

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something before it sent to us and I

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still don't know if if it shows side by

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what the committee did and what the

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planning commission did or if it's just

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because we were supposed to get it side

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by side or colorcoded at least. I don't

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know how you presented it to them, but

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it was supposed to be so that we could

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see the committee's stuff in one color

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and the additions or subtractions in a

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different color from the planning

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commission.

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just took the community developments

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plan and crossed off a word here and,

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was making the changes that the council

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to see committees planning commission

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share and have like one half be the left

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planning commission changes so far have

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been quite minimal.

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isn't substantive in nature. And he said

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most of the goals are staying the same.

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the overall project size um I don't

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Hills had a grant plus a match of a

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certain amount and maybe a little bit of

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that was spent with a prior consultant

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early on, but the budget that came to us

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money because some of it the city was

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using for that other portal. So, it kind

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of came out of two spots. But yeah, but

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more than $30,000 left. So we have

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plenty of funding to do whatever. Also,

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projects, how I do things. I am

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incredibly picky on my billable hours.

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just talking with staff or fixing things

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general plan and strategic plan that is

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what the city wants and is useful to the

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the strategic plan today. I understand

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that I think there are some different

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that strategic plan and there's enough

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budget that we can make sure that uh

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whatever it is we need to include we can

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get included. So I wouldn't be worried

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at this point that we're running out of

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strategic plan. So that's good news.

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the strategic plan? You've met with some

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moving along. And and that's one thing I

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because the strategic plan will after it

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comes to this committee will go directly

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commission and so um in getting the

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staff's input because it will be a

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council document just like the general

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plan together and then it will go

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and the strategic plan. Just so we're

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all on the same page, they're the

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short-term goals that outline the steps

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that the city is taking now to point

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toward the vision that's in the general

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plan. So, it's not going to be rehashing

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the general vision of the the general

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plan. Um, it's going to be there to

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support the general plan and to outline

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who's doing what and what we need to see

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by when. Um, so more actionable items

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where people know who's responsible for

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what, which committee or which

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individual, which staff member or you

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know what what board should be working

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on what tasks, right? Um, and a goal for

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key performance indicators. Um, so yeah.

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general plan and so he gave me what he

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sees as his uh next steps. So his action

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steps and what he sees as the key

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performance indicators that um he feels

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like would indicate that he has

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completed that step um as well as the

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timeline. And so he has done that for

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transportation, water preservation and

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the natural environment as well as the

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public facilities chapters. Uh for each

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yes um three action action steps um with

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a one to threeyear horizon. So either

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immediate to accomplish within the next

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year or a short short term to accomplish

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in the next two to three years. So he

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has yeah three of those for each of

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those. um three chapters. I've also

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reached out to Sherry with the PTR

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committee. I know she's been out of

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country. She's probably back now. Um I

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reached out again this week and haven't

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heard anything. So, I don't know if that

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was discussed at the last PTR meeting in

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March. I think they met

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>> two weeks agoish. Um but I have not

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heard back from her. Um, so I went ahead

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and started to fill out some of the rest

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of the strategic plan matrix with what I

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think might be the direction um to go in

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these other chapters. So we have um

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parks and trails. I also reached out to

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Wayne about land use, housing, and

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annexation. Um and his response was kind

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of like, hey, we just sent it all to the

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council and council's going to tell us

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what's important. Um, so we can I I went

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through and I selected things that I

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think would be the most immediate action

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steps and the timelines um and I can put

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in the responsible parties u and maybe

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before we um kick the entire document

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over to uh the council we uh run that by

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uh Wayne and you know the rest of staff

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and those committees.

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um

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>> land use housing and what else?

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>> Land use housing and annexation which is

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that last element.

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>> So Daniel did you um I mean since now

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legislative session is over we know what

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passed what didn't pass.

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>> When we were working on the general plan

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stuff some of that was still up in the

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air. So in between now and when we

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finalize it has any anything been needed

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to um supplement any changes that in

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state statute? Good question. I can't

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think of anything luckily um in the 2025

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uh update we or 2024 one of those we had

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updates but we had updates about water

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in 2024. We also had an update about um

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transportation and some updates about um

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the the nodal development for uh what

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like the station not station area plans

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but um for some some of those types of

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situations for communities that have um

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like UTA stations that was in the 20 I

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think 205 update but the 2026 update I

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did not see anything that would put new

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standards in a general plan. I will

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double check that. But my recollection

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from just last week, we had our APA, the

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American Pine Association. We did our uh

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legislative roundup or whatever they

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call it, right?

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>> Yeah.

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>> And I don't recall anything.

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There were some land use issues, but I

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didn't know if it would affect us or or

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not or if they were just in general. I

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mean, there's some things that might be

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there were so many bills that it was

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hard to keep track of all of them, but

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um out of the 200 I think 65 bills that

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affected municipal government and maybe

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half of those passed, but it's always

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hard to remember

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>> several which ones had to do with um

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things that would actually impact us as

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an organization. I I've gone to several

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wrapups afterwards and I'm still trying

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to just make sure that I've gotten it

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down.

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>> Yeah, I think it's what HB 184 is the

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main

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>> land use bill and I can take another

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look at that, but uh there are things

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that will need to be updated, I'm sure,

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within the code itself as there are

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again more changes with ADUs. There are

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um

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>> changes on a lot of random

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>> two that I was thinking of. There was a

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couple of water ones. I think it was

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HP501

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and then there was also the wildland

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interface.

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>> Yes.

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>> Ordinance one

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>> and that one had some changes. And so

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those two things will heavily impact our

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city. And so it's hard to know, but if

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you can just double check on those kinds

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of things and make sure that we're not

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coming back and having to change all of

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this again.

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>> Yeah, a lot of changes about moderate

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income housing again, but all of that

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relates to communities with 5,000 or

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more residents. So you are lucky to be

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small and exempted from that.

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>> There was a lot.

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>> There was there was a lot.

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>> Yeah. Luckily, some of those that were

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going to take out sides of city did not

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pass. So, there were a couple of things

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that were thrown out that it would be

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everybody no matter

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what your city size was. So, I was glad

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they left it at 5,000.

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>> Yeah. Um, yeah, if you were a larger

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city, there would probably be things to

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change here in the general plan. Uh, so

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I'll I'll double check and let you guys

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know.

399
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>> Um, do you want me to share my screen?

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>> That would be great. Oh, okay.

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» Okay. Are you looking at an Excel file?

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>> Yes.

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» Whoops. That's okay. That's as big as we

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go. Okay. Um, so this is the

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implementation matrix that I put

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together. And so you can see

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uh the chapter, the action step and the

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timeline. So let's start here. This is

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what Ted submitted. Um that's not okay.

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So uh he said to actively update the uh

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PMP and maintain the roads

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>> pavement management plan doesn't know

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what that is. Yeah. Could we not do

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abbreviations just because we don't want

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to make any assumptions? And then two,

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I'm just wondering when I'm looking at

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this,

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>> the action step, how do I know which

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goal it relates to? I get that there's a

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chapter.

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>> Yeah, they don't all

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relate. like some sometimes the action

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step is an exact verbatim goal and other

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times it's kind of a subset or like an

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amalgamation of multiple goals. So I

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could put um in fact one of my

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iterations had this. I could put another

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uh uh column right next to it of goals

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and I could put the exact citation,

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right? And some of them are going to

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relate to like two or three goals.

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>> Um

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>> yeah.

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Yeah. Do you think that'd be

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helpful?

436
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>> I think it would be really great to have

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the citation in case so that people can

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kind of go back and refresh their mind

439
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on what are we talking about,

440
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>> which goal this relates to.

441
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>> Okay, I will do that. So, yeah, he says

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to actively update the payment

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management plan and to um

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accomplish a minimum of one maintenance

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project per year.

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Um, then reconstruct remaining and

447
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that's not spelled right, but I'll go

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through and edit that kind of stuff

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later. Um, reconstruct remaining

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deteriorated roads and complete at least

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one project over the next two years and

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actively seek funding and then plan and

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pursue trail projects for safer

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non-motorized active transportation. And

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um, his key performance indicator is to

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get to obtain grant funding for active

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transportation. So that can kind of go

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in parks and trails as well. Um, I

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haven't heard back from parks and

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trails, but I was already thinking

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something along the lines of pursuing

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grants for park amenities. I don't know

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that we want to be specific. I know

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they've applied for pickle ball courts

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and various things in the past um and

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present. Um, and so as a key performance

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indicator, that could be something like

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applying for a certain number of grants

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per year or, you know, submitting a

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competitive application each year until

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one of them comes through. Um,

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>> yeah, they usually do a few of them um a

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year. So far, we haven't received the

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ones that we've asked for. The other

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thing that was brought up the other

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night was um replacing the playground

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equipment at the park and they get that

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with a grant or um originally when we

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put the playground equipment at the

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park, it was like a fundraiser where

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different people in town contributed to

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it and then and so I don't know if

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they'll want to do something similar or

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if they'll just go for a grant and have

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a match be from the citizens. I don't

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know.

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But

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>> is that something that's just a idea or

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is that something

490
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>> it was brought to us by the PTR?

491
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>> Okay. So, it's been brought to the

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council.

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>> It did in a very very casual way like

494
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Okay.

495
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>> We would like to upgrade this. Is it

496
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going to be in the budget? No, it's not.

497
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Sorry. But can you figure out another

498
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way? Sure.

499
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>> Okay. So, you didn't know how far down?

500
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>> Yeah. We did our budget priorities the

501
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other last meeting. So, and it was not

502
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part of it. And the pickle ball court,

503
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we do have some money set aside for it

504
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if as a match if they get the grant cuz

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all grants have a match. So, parks and

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trails though, like you said, Jensen,

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you've tried to do some outreach to

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them. We're just kind of on hold till

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you get a response back and you're

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putting together a a draft of maybe what

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you think

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>> they would like, but this is subject to

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change depending on that.

514
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>> That Yeah, that's right. Um Okay.

515
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>> Yeah. And I'm thinking a key performance

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indicator should be something based on

517
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submitting competitive grant

518
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applications, right? Or engagement with

519
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the community because we want something

520
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that they can control, right? We can't

521
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control receiving the grant.

522
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>> Um, also I think they should have some

523
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sort of action step that relates to a

524
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community engagement component, right?

525
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something about volunteer events or

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getting volunteers to do trail

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maintenance or something with public

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education, public outreach, you know,

529
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something about them engaging the public

530
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with some key performance indicator

531
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along those lines. And that could even

532
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be like creating a friends of or, you

533
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know, something where we have the

534
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ability for people to submit um whatever

535
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it is, but you know, to help with

536
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matching um funds, right? Then water.

537
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This came from TED. So execute planned

538
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storm water projects based on the flood

539
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study and to complete one project a year

540
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including the first year including year

541
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one and then to develop a public

542
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communication platform for water

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conservation and he wants that fully

544
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implemented through Yapify which is

545
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something that they've been working on

546
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,480
and then educate and train the public on

547
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,039
the state's wildfire risk program

548
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,720
related to HB 48 from last year and

549
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,640
there there's going to also be this

550
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,000
year. Um

551
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,200
>> yeah, that's one of the ones I was

552
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,880
asking you to double check and make sure

553
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,919
that anything else in our plan is

554
00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:29,679
doesn't leave out because that's a

555
00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:30,799
pretty big one.

556
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,600
>> Yeah, that is a big one. Um so I can

557
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,159
take a look at that. Um

558
00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:38,480
so yeah, he wanted something about

559
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,720
public education with 50% um responses

560
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,440
to homeowner inspections within two

561
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,919
years of inspections offered. So the the

562
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:50,640
state of Utah uh will offer inspections

563
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,400
for people um to to check that they have

564
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000
taken the mitigation steps under HB48 if

565
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,280
they're in a WOOI area. Um and and his

566
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,919
uh KPI is that 50% of the residents in

567
00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:10,000
Woodland Hills would have participated

568
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,679
within the first two years. I can work

569
00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:13,120
on that wording. That just is what came

570
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,080
from Ted.

571
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,080
>> I think they've already started that a

572
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,159
little bit. Um just in our local fire

573
00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:20,480
department has been going around. I've

574
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,320
had a few calls from residents who have

575
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,640
gotten door hangers with something and

576
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,320
they're calling me to say, "Carrie, what

577
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,159
is this?" and I haven't had a chance to

578
00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:31,919
ask him, but uh they want to make sure

579
00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:34,159
that it's local people and it's optional

580
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:36,480
and whatever because somebody was going

581
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,559
around town saying, "By the way, if you

582
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,240
answer that door hanger, they're going

583
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,400
to increase your insurance."

584
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,559
>> So, it it's easy how how misinformation

585
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,640
can just spread like crazy when one

586
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,240
person says, "That's why they put it on

587
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,039
your door."

588
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:51,600
>> Yeah.

589
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,720
>> They're going to turn you into your

590
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,080
insurance company. I said, "How are they

591
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,360
going to know who your insurance company

592
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:59,600
is? would be the opposite also. Anyway,

593
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,159
okay. Um, and public facilities. So, to

594
00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,480
plan, fund, and execute a water

595
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720
replacement project. And he'd like to

596
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,440
have a project funded with a design in

597
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,919
progress in the next year. And then

598
00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:14,080
update the water master plan and have

599
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480
that water master plan completed in the

600
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,480
next two to three years. And have a

601
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,120
fully functioning asset management plan.

602
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,440
and to be able to complete and track all

603
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,039
assets in the next 2 to 3 years. Um, so

604
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,000
that's what came from TED. Then for land

605
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320
use and housing,

606
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,400
um, these ones came from me just based

607
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,080
on what I'm thinking looks like

608
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,000
where we are. Um, so the first one is,

609
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,320
uh, just as Carrie was saying, um, to

610
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,080
update and align the land use code with

611
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,480
the new general plan and the LMA updates

612
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,159
from 2026.

613
00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:52,240
>> Um, fill out web so that everybody

614
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,039
knows.

615
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,559
>> Yeah, sure. Uh I'll Yeah, I'll I'll I'll

616
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,960
work on the late the wording later. Um

617
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,120
so, Utah code updates.

618
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,640
>> Um

619
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,320
so, develop consensus on desired design

620
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,120
guidelines and styles for a potential

621
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,640
commercial mixeduse overlay. Here's

622
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,840
where I want to be really careful,

623
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,279
right? I want to make sure that we're

624
00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:17,200
pointing in the right direction and and

625
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,559
I don't want to point people toward

626
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,159
contention. I also don't want to point

627
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:23,440
people toward um

628
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,360
what a vision that it's not going to

629
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,159
like materialize. And so the first two I

630
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:29,679
thought well first of all Wooden Hills

631
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:31,600
needs to know

632
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,720
what what would they want right? Um is

633
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,039
there consensus here? Do we have an idea

634
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:39,120
if if a develop if Wooden Hills was

635
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,480
going to work with the developer to come

636
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,799
up with an overlay? Do we have an idea

637
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:44,880
of what type of design standards we even

638
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,120
like? What type of product we'd even

639
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,799
like to see? Right. Um, I don't think we

640
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,120
do. I think there's kind of a vision. I

641
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,120
don't know if it's fully shared, but my

642
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,039
sense is

643
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,279
people have some different visions. We

644
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,120
kind of have an idea, right? We have

645
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,400
enough of an idea that we were able to

646
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,240
put a general plan together, but maybe

647
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,760
not enough of an idea that we're able to

648
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,840
put a code together. Do you think does

649
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:14,640
that feel accurate? I think so because I think that we want to make sure that

650
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,120
if that land sells that we have

651
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,360
something in place prior so if a

652
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,080
developer comes we're not just going uh

653
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,600
I don't know we'll get back with you. We

654
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,760
want to be able to say these are some

655
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,640
ideas we have let's work together.

656
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,120
>> Um so I think it would be important that

657
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,919
we have something in place. I mean, it

658
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:35,840
took a long time when we did the overlay

659
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,480
for Summit Creek and um

660
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,039
and it still didn't necessarily come out

661
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,039
the way we had thought it would because

662
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,320
sometimes things are done in a just a

663
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,240
discussion and not necessarily in the

664
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,720
written and so I think it's important to

665
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,720
have it written out so that if a

666
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,960
developer comes

667
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,279
we have we have some written documents

668
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,720
that at least guide us.

669
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,159
Yeah. So that's why I was think kind of

670
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:05,919
a three-step approach here. So the first

671
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:10,080
one is uh those discussions, right?

672
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,279
Develop some sort of consensus on what is wanted. The next thing is what's

673
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,919
the feasibility, right? And so that's

674
00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:20,559
where the city would need to talk to

675
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,679
some developers and get a sense of is

676
00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:25,679
this really the right spot? What would

677
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:27,600
actually come here? What would pencil?

678
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,440
Right? like we don't want to go and

679
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,960
create a code only to find out that what

680
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,640
we're thinking isn't even going to work,

681
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,799
right? And then the third one is once we have a vision, once we have

682
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:40,640
consensus as to like what we'd want,

683
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,159
once we know that, hey, it could

684
00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:44,000
actually pencil if the right developer

685
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,960
comes along, they could actually

686
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,760
construct it, then we can go to let's

687
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,919
create the commercial mixeduse overlay

688
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:52,559
or or zone, right? Um,

689
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,240
>> yeah, when we talked about a little bit,

690
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,640
you know, the the mayor's thinking more

691
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
kind of like how you presented at one

692
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960
time, Daniel, maybe kind of a main

693
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,240
street type where it's flat, but it's

694
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,000
like a main street so that there's a

695
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,799
gathering place that's not just the park

696
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,640
that would have parking and other

697
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,799
things. And he also wants to put in a

698
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:18,000
cemetery. So, that's interesting. Um,

699
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600
and so I think that that's the route he

700
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,679
would like to go, but not necessarily

701
00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:25,200
knowing

702
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:32,080
where it is. It's still just a cloud of ideas, right? And so having some more

703
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,360
consensus and and designations would at

704
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,919
least be some framework for a

705
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:39,919
discussion.

706
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:42,159
>> So I'm assuming responsible parties for

707
00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:43,679
what you've just discussed, land use

708
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:45,200
housing. you've mentioned already.

709
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,039
That's planning commission and does that

710
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,919
mean also city council?

711
00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:54,480
>> So all land use goes by law goes to

712
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,159
planning commission first and then to

713
00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:57,600
city council.

714
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,919
>> Okay. Because planning commission can't authorize

715
00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:04,240
anything but it has to go through them

716
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,399
and then it goes to the council with

717
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:08,720
their recommendation which may or may

718
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,880
not be um taken but most most of the

719
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,799
time it's taken

720
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:19,350
>> because they do a lot of hard work.

721
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,640
» Yeah. So does that feel like the right

722
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720
direction? And with housing, I was also

723
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,279
I put on there

724
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,120
adopting the actual design standards.

725
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,480
Again, that's going to be a few years

726
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,480
out. You need to have a vision first,

727
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960
right? We need to develop the consensus

728
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,320
on what's desired, know what's feasible,

729
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,880
>> and after you do that, then we can start

730
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,000
looking um at the the standards.

731
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,919
Sometimes communities flip those and

732
00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:47,360
they spend all this time. They create an

733
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,480
ordinance. They put all these standards

734
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,320
in there. It looks really great, but

735
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,080
they've never really figured out where

736
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,799
it's going to go and if it even is

737
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:55,279
feasible.

738
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:55,919
>> It's feasible.

739
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:59,039
>> And then it just sits there for 30 years

740
00:29:59,039 --> 00:29:59,679
>> because it's not

741
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:01,919
>> Well, that's what we've had in our past

742
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:04,880
general plan. We had that strip along

743
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,799
11200 as potential commercial or the

744
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:16,480
part that now is owned by um Three Bridges that it was potential.

745
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,919
But it's been like that for 20ome years

746
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:23,679
and there was never a step to say maybe

747
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:25,279
right because

748
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:26,960
>> so it was just it's just one of those

749
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
things and so I think that it's better

750
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,960
to be in line so that as people are

751
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,480
looking

752
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,080
uh one of the things that comes up a lot

753
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,480
in discussions in the housing industry

754
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080
and and in legislators with legislators

755
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,679
is are you prepared not necessarily are

756
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:47,520
you building something although they

757
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,159
want us to but are you prepared if

758
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:53,760
someone comes in to to have the same

759
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,159
vision that they have in in but in our

760
00:30:56,159 --> 00:31:00,549
own way.

761
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,799
Okay. I just have a few notes. So you'll

762
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,880
spell out any abbreviations. So you've

763
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,279
already mentioned that if there's any

764
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,240
links like the LMA one, does it is there

765
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,110
a a website that's like a reference?

766
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,720
» Yeah, I mean I'll just put Utah code

767
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,240
here.

768
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Utah code 2026 updates.

769
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,559
>> Yeah, if there's ever any time that it's

770
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,159
just maybe helpful for whoever is in

771
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:28,880
charge of this to be able to, you know,

772
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,960
then link to the Utah code website. Um,

773
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,960
so any opportunity for that that can

774
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,640
link them somewhere for their work I

775
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,509
think is ideal. Um,

776
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,640
can we turn this into a table when it's

777
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120
closer to being final so that you can

778
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,919
filter and search by the name of the

779
00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:52,880
responsible party or the chapter or you

780
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,720
know whatever. And then and I'm happy to

781
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,559
help with this Excel part of things

782
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,440
um if you want to share it with me, but

783
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,120
I also feel like you probably know how

784
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,279
to do a lot of this. Um and then I think

785
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,480
it would also be nice if the different

786
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,720
chapters were colorcoded

787
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,870
>> so you it's just a little more readable.

788
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,519
» Um yeah. So with that my recollection is

789
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,919
we had talked about

790
00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:31,360
>> whether I should put

791
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,159
the whole strategic plan and matrix in

792
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:35,760
the same format as a general plan like

793
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240
an in in design or keep it as something

794
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,640
like an Excel file so then it's really

795
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960
easily adjustable and I think we had

796
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,159
said let's keep it in a format like this

797
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:48,399
not in in design so we can go and change

798
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,720
it as time goes on. Is that right?

799
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,320
>> I think that's still the best way

800
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,320
forward. Does anybody else have an

801
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,960
opinion on that? So it's not just like a

802
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,440
PDF that's difficult maybe to adjust.

803
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,080
You want it to be a little more living

804
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,279
>> document. Absolutely.

805
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,440
>> It's more of a spreadsheet that's

806
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,240
actively

807
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,559
>> until it's finished.

808
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,240
>> Well, so when the strate feel like when

809
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,600
the strategic plan is like more

810
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,120
finalized, you want it to be like not

811
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,630
editable.

812
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,559
» Isn't that what we do is we come up with

813
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,279
a completed document or is it always

814
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,630
editable?

815
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,320
I think we have to have maybe a little

816
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,919
of both because we have to be able to

817
00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:30,000
put we have to put all our public

818
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,760
documents like this on a on our website

819
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,919
I believe like our general plan has to

820
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:38,880
be um and that could maybe be an

821
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440
overview without necessarily all the

822
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320
specifics but leave the specifics of hey

823
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,039
we cross that off that's done you know

824
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,039
as the living document but have

825
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,440
something that is more

826
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,120
>> static and on on the website that just

827
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,519
says we have one

828
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,120
and it's covering these areas.

829
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,080
>> Okay. Well, then that makes this that

830
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
makes the spreadsheet obsolete, which is

831
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,480
fine.

832
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
>> No, the spreadsheet's still here because

833
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,240
we still want the staff.

834
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,320
>> Well, then who's in charge of updating

835
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,800
the static version?

836
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,119
>> I would say the mayor and the staff

837
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,879
>> because it would have to just have like

838
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:16,960
a last updated and then they just have

839
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,879
to regularly

840
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:20,480
>> they have staff meeting what every week.

841
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,359
weak

842
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:24,079
>> update the version that's online.

843
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:24,879
>> Yeah. Yeah.

844
00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:26,399
>> Well, this version wouldn't be online

845
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:27,440
and that's what I'm saying. There would

846
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,760
just online would be this would be an

847
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,839
internal document just for the staff and

848
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:34,240
the mayor and the council and then there

849
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,240
would be a written document that would

850
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,320
be online saying there's a strategic

851
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,679
plan. These are the things that are

852
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,520
happening and it's just like the general

853
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,639
plan just a page or two uh put on there

854
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,800
that accompanies and we're these are the

855
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,720
things we're working on. Then if you

856
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,800
want to know more then you can contact

857
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,879
the mayor or the staff.

858
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:54,800
>> So on the static version does that

859
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,599
include action steps or KPIs or is that

860
00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,599
just like here's the topic and here's

861
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:00,960
who's responsible for

862
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,800
>> or just here's the topic not even who's

863
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960
responsible because staff changes over

864
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,200
time. Just here's a strategic plan that

865
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,000
the council

866
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,440
>> put like Ted's title though that whoever

867
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,920
is in that role is responsible for

868
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,720
transportation.

869
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,520
>> Yeah. Just the titles. Daniel, does that

870
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160
feel like that makes sense to to have a

871
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,960
static version like that? Does that

872
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,000
>> Yeah, I think we could have a we don't

873
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,160
have to run it through Inesign, but we

874
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,440
could make the Excel file look nice. So,

875
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520
we could put it as a PDF, right? And

876
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,359
that could be the adopted version that

877
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:37,680
goes on the website and then because it

878
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,599
is in Excel, whoever with staff wants

879
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,079
to, you know, hold on to it, they can

880
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,760
adjust as time goes. But you don't need

881
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,960
to go and like amend your strategic plan

882
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,720
each time you cross something off or

883
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,640
whatever. You could just

884
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,800
>> Well, Daniel, I'm even thinking even

885
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,760
simpler than that. I think this version

886
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,880
here is an internal document only, but

887
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,440
the static one would be like a one or

888
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,320
two pager that just gives a summary of

889
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
what the strategic plan is going to

890
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,839
cover and that it has um action steps

891
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:14,320
and a timeline. and if you want more

892
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,000
information

893
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,599
and then you put the city phone number

894
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:20,880
or website I mean or email and just let

895
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960
it be like that. So it showcases that

896
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040
there is one but it doesn't necessarily

897
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,640
have to go into the weeds.

898
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,400
>> Yeah, I think either one works. If

899
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,920
that's the direction we go, then that

900
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,839
makes the public facing document really

901
00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:34,960
simple.

902
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,640
>> Yeah, that's what I think I I think

903
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,720
people don't want to really necessarily

904
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,280
dive in deep to all of this, but they

905
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,480
want to know we're doing something.

906
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,839
Well, or maybe something we offer to the

907
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:49,920
council is do you make this where you

908
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,680
could do view only to the public

909
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
if they want it to have more of the

910
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,240
detail that's public facing.

911
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,079
But if they would prefer just a more

912
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,680
simplified version like Carrie's

913
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,079
proposing, then yeah, that's a lot

914
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:04,480
simpler.

915
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,320
>> How other cities do it? How do they

916
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,680
>> they just have their website? they just

917
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,760
have a basic page because they let the

918
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,880
staff do it because you don't want to

919
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,720
get into the legalities if there's a

920
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,119
problem or if there's somebody who

921
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,320
>> I feel like less is more because I mean

922
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,000
if they have access to the information

923
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,680
if they can call someone and get a copy

924
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,520
of it if they want the full amount but

925
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,920
or the full packet but I think putting

926
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
out so much information might just raise

927
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,440
so many questions.

928
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:29,839
>> Yeah.

929
00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:31,359
>> And it would overwhelm the staff

930
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:33,839
>> where an overview I think would be ideal

931
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,119
if that's how I mean especially if

932
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:36,640
that's how other people do it too. other

933
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,470
cities do it.

934
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,480
» Strategic plans are all over the board.

935
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,800
Um, we talked about that with our first

936
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,119
uh meeting about strategic plans a few

937
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,040
months ago and I I think I shared some

938
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,079
examples. General plans are regulated by

939
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:53,760
the state. They have to include certain

940
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,040
things. They have to include certain

941
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,520
topics. Strategic plans are optional,

942
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,240
right? And so some cities do them, some

943
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,640
cities don't. Some cities have it

944
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040
strictly as

945
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520
um well, for example, PAC PAC's

946
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,880
strategic plan is the third tier of

947
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,760
goals that Woodland Hills has in its own

948
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,320
general plan and that's it. That that's

949
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440
all it is. Um because you'll recall in

950
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,839
our own general plan, the Woodland Hills

951
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:23,839
general plan, we have we have goals, we

952
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:27,280
have um object objectives, and we have

953
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,359
action items, right? It doesn't say who

954
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:33,359
does it or when, but you know there's the three tiers. And for some

955
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,680
people or for some county cities or

956
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,440
counties that that is their strategic

957
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,079
plan and others go more specific like

958
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,480
this and others can talk about you know

959
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,599
other issues uh whatever the you know if

960
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:48,079
you're city of Moab for example you're

961
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:49,599
going to be talking about how to do

962
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:51,599
tourism mitigation stuff and their

963
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:52,960
strategic plan will go into certain

964
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,880
strategies or it might go into more

965
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,960
about how police department works or

966
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,480
something if that's the big issue. So

967
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,200
strategic plan is much more loosey-

968
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,800
goosey and it can be whatever you guys

969
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,320
want it to be. I don't think there's a

970
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,119
right answer or a wrong answer here.

971
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,800
>> Okay. So this

972
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440
>> working spreadsheet is internal for the

973
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,560
city employees or committees that are

974
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,040
assigned to the or are the responsible

975
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,400
parties.

976
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,119
>> And then what we're calling then now a

977
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,119
strategic plan overview. So we have a

978
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,760
paragraph at the top that gives an

979
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,320
overview and then we have a list of all

980
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,560
the different chapter topics with

981
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,640
another you know or a table with the

982
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,839
chapter topics and then who's the point

983
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:37,839
of contact

984
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:40,160
essentially for that topic and then

985
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,000
their contact info. Is that the

986
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,829
thinking?

987
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:50,960
Did I explain that?

988
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,560
>> So paragraph three column table with

989
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,440
land use chapter responsible party

990
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,480
contact info that's it

991
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,400
>> in the public facing version

992
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,200
>> yeah so column A column C and then

993
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:11,430
another column with a email

994
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,200
» do we need to do let's see so if we're

995
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,839
not going to share

996
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:19,920
the details publicly should the

997
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,040
strategic plan that's public facing just

998
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,720
outline

999
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,960
what it is and that it exists.

1000
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,800
>> Yeah, just a I think just a general

1001
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,960
paragraph. I don't think we need all the

1002
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960
other because it's already things that

1003
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,560
need to be on there for contact

1004
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,160
information are already on there

1005
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,720
>> on the general plan or on where

1006
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:39,839
>> on the website

1007
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,200
>> on the city website.

1008
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,040
>> Like if some the people who call me or

1009
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,720
email me, they get it all off the

1010
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:45,440
website.

1011
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,880
>> Okay. So then we're just doing a

1012
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,839
paragraph.

1013
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:52,800
>> Yeah. paragraph or two, maybe even just enough to say here, this is

1014
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,320
accompanying these are the short-term

1015
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,920
goals accompanying the general plan

1016
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,440
because the general plan has to be on

1017
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:57,839
the website.

1018
00:40:57,839 --> 00:40:59,040
>> We're not putting goals,

1019
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,520
>> huh?

1020
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,960
>> But we're not putting short-term goals

1021
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,480
because they're living here,

1022
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,839
>> right? But we're just saying the

1023
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:04,880
strategic plan

1024
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,760
>> has short-term goals.

1025
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,680
and it accompanies

1026
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,560
the general plan and it's for the the

1027
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,280
council and the and the employees to

1028
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,880
fulfill those goals. Okay, Daniel, does

1029
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,240
that feel clear then of what that

1030
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,920
overview one pager is going to look

1031
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,720
like?

1032
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,720
>> Yeah. Should I put that in the general

1033
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:24,800
plan right after the executive summary?

1034
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,119
>> Sure, we can offer it and they can

1035
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:41,910
decide if they want it in there or not.

1036
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,800
So basically a resident would pick up

1037
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,760
the general plan. The executive summary

1038
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,280
would explain what's in the general

1039
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920
plan. Right after that we say by the way

1040
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160
the city has a strategic plan which

1041
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,400
outlines the more specific

1042
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,319
responsibilities of various staff

1043
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:00,480
members and boards, committees,

1044
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,880
volunteers. Um directs them how to

1045
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040
achieve the things in the general plan.

1046
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,800
If you would like to be more involved or

1047
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,200
know more about what those strategies

1048
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,440
are, contact the city and then here's

1049
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,200
the rest of the general plan.

1050
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,599
>> Yep. Join a committee.

1051
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,440
>> Yeah, join join a committee today.

1052
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,839
Please call. Yeah.

1053
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:21,680
>> Yeah. Exact. I think that would be

1054
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,880
fabulous.

1055
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,040
>> Okay.

1056
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,599
Then I feel clearer there on that.

1057
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,079
And then yeah, I I'm happy to work with

1058
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,880
you on just making this pretty the Excel

1059
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,960
spreadsheet and searchable and usable

1060
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,599
for the city. And that

1061
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,560
um thank you for all the effort so far

1062
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
though. I'm really happy to see these

1063
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,640
action steps. I feel like they make

1064
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,520
sense. They're measurable.

1065
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,920
>> Yes. Well, these are things that they

1066
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,160
talk about because every they have staff

1067
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,599
meeting once a week. We have council

1068
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,079
meeting twice a month and the staff give

1069
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,880
us a report and these will help direct

1070
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,280
them on what their reports will have so

1071
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,760
they'll be able to say you know this is

1072
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,000
what we're doing and it ties it all

1073
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,880
together.

1074
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,920
>> Yeah, this is great. Um, I would

1075
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,319
>> say Yeah, sorry.

1076
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:13,680
>> I was just gonna say only one other

1077
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,800
column I would add is just either a

1078
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,119
progress and or like a completion

1079
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,119
um with like a timestamp.

1080
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:24,480
>> Oh, yeah.

1081
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,280
>> Um,

1082
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,800
>> check mark box.

1083
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,720
>> Yeah, some sort of I don't know if we

1084
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,440
want to. Anyway, we can maybe talk about

1085
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,400
that. But,

1086
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,920
>> okay, since this is going to stay

1087
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,920
internal, do we want to have it more

1088
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,560
detailed? Do we want to have more

1089
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,400
potential more action items per land use

1090
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,960
or per um element general plan chapter

1091
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,920
or is three or so?

1092
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,079
>> I think that's up to whoever's. If Ted

1093
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,119
wants to add more, I would say he can.

1094
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:02,000
I don't know if I feel like I need to

1095
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,880
make that call.

1096
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,640
>> Yeah. I don't want to give Ted more

1097
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,800
work, but do we feel like this is

1098
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,119
sufficient for land use and housing? Is

1099
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:10,160
this

1100
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,720
>> Yeah, because land use and housing I

1101
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:14,319
mean planning commission meets every

1102
00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:16,720
single month and they're continually

1103
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,880
working on updating that kind of thing.

1104
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,640
So it might be beneficial that you know

1105
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,920
when you talk to Wayne um to ask ask him

1106
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000
what he feels the capabilities are

1107
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,440
because this is supposed to be for the

1108
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,440
next 3 to 5 years um of goals and you

1109
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,119
don't want them to run out of goals.

1110
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,680
So but as a living document they could

1111
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000
always add more. Say check that one that

1112
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,480
says complete add a new.

1113
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,079
>> Yeah. Yeah. Or if any of them feel too

1114
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,240
broad, like if one of them feels like

1115
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:51,680
it's a constant ongoing thing,

1116
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,319
>> divide it up,

1117
00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:54,240
>> then you'd want to define it a little

1118
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,920
more clearly. But that's again something

1119
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,680
that whoever the responsible party is,

1120
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,160
that's what they need to

1121
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,079
>> edit.

1122
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:05,119
>> So that's the benefit here of having a

1123
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:06,960
living document as opposed to a static

1124
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,880
document. We don't have to come up with

1125
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,720
all the goals now. But then if we're

1126
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,480
doing this as a living document where

1127
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,079
we're going to say, "Hey, periodically

1128
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:15,920
or, you know, maybe January of each

1129
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,480
year, we're going to review this and

1130
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,720
check things off and add things to it."

1131
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,079
We also probably want to put someone

1132
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:23,599
who's responsible and make to make sure

1133
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:26,480
that happens, right? So, I don't know if

1134
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,319
that's like a Jod or Lauren Lori to say,

1135
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:32,960
"Hey, each year I'm going to make sure,

1136
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,000
hey, add your stuff on there." Right?

1137
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,839
>> You I don't know.

1138
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:40,800
Do we propose that to the council of who

1139
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,000
then owns the responsibility of this?

1140
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,839
>> Yeah, maybe that's the mayor. But yeah,

1141
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:47,200
I I think so.

1142
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,640
>> We can write that down then. Who's

1143
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,240
responsible? Just so that it's in our

1144
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:50,960
notes.

1145
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,280
>> Yeah.

1146
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,440
>> Who's responsible for the document um um

1147
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,560
being updated? If it's Lori or Jod, it'd

1148
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,720
probably be Lori or Jod. I mean,

1149
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:04,950
realistically,

1150
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,640
» and maybe the two of them can only do it

1151
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,400
over lunch, so

1152
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:20,550
there we go.

1153
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,839
I like to that this being in Excel, if

1154
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:26,319
something does get changed, you can look

1155
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:29,119
at the history. Um, you can look at the

1156
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,480
history by sheet or by cell. So, you can

1157
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,160
see if somebody's made changes that

1158
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,760
maybe not everybody agreed on or that

1159
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,680
you weren't aware of or that you wanted

1160
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,520
to follow up on again progress or things

1161
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,119
like that, you could see changes live.

1162
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:45,839
>> Yeah.

1163
00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:53,750
>> Or a record of the changes.

1164
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,839
Okay. Well, any other questions

1165
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:00,960
about this or any other comments on the

1166
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,839
way it looks or feels or usability of

1167
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:07,440
it? I'm excited actually. You know, I

1168
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,880
thought I was thinking of this earlier

1169
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,960
today when we first had the idea of

1170
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,040
putting in this grant to get this money

1171
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,240
and it's now been what, seven years, six

1172
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,640
years ago. It's almost like it was a

1173
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,319
whole another life of the city because

1174
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:22,480
it was before the fires. it was before a

1175
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,760
lot of things. Um, and I'm the only one

1176
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,680
currently on the council that was there

1177
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,079
at the time. And so just as it's

1178
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,560
progressed, right? And I'm just so

1179
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,520
excited to see this come to be. I can't

1180
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,599
tell you how much I appreciate all the

1181
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,319
work you guys have done because it's

1182
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:42,240
like having a little baby that you just

1183
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,839
say, "Here, would you guys take care of

1184
00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:46,000
it?" And it's look, it's this really

1185
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
amazing plan and now we're going to have

1186
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,400
action steps and timeline. In my

1187
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,920
lifetime, I'm going to see some of this

1188
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,240
accomplished.

1189
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,520
>> I like it. Okay. Anybody else before me?

1190
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,200
>> What when's our next meeting? Did we

1191
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,839
decide that?

1192
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:07,430
>> Oh, good good question, Daniel. Um,

1193
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,079
how much I mean, I don't think we need a

1194
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,480
whole a whole ton of time, right, in

1195
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,240
between? You got to wait. We got to wait

1196
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:18,160
to hear back from the parks and trails.

1197
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,640
Mhm.

1198
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,240
>> Um, this is still kind of subject to any

1199
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,559
sort of goals that changed from the

1200
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:26,800
general plan. So, this is us providing

1201
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,559
our best first draft based on those

1202
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,000
potential changes. Is it is it do we

1203
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,079
feel comfortable

1204
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:40,480
finalizing this in a few weeks

1205
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200
so that maybe we come up with a first

1206
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,599
draft final to pro provide to the

1207
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,240
council in May along with the general

1208
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:49,680
plan that will be provided in May.

1209
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,240
Should we wait till the general plan is

1210
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,800
or the no sorry that the planning

1211
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,440
commission is doing the public meeting

1212
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680
in May not bringing it to the council in

1213
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,160
May.

1214
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,000
>> Yeah. What is the timeline here? So,

1215
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,720
planning commission is doing another um

1216
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,960
>> they have their public hearing town hall

1217
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,760
kind of thing.

1218
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,520
>> Yeah, it's in May.

1219
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,200
>> I just don't know what's I don't want to

1220
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,200
get ahead of anybody. So, but I also

1221
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,119
want to be responsive and get this

1222
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:18,400
forward. So,

1223
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,359
>> any comments on timeline?

1224
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:22,720
>> I don't think there's anything wrong

1225
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:25,680
with meeting again in a month and I

1226
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,760
should have everything in here. Kirsten

1227
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,440
and I can get with you beforehand. We

1228
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,760
can make this look nice. We can do all

1229
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,240
the things we talked about today and

1230
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:38,240
potentially be at a draft that we're

1231
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:41,200
ready to say, "Okay, barring major

1232
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,000
changes from planning commission, here's

1233
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,760
what we're ready to send over to council

1234
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,200
whenever the general plan goes to

1235
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,280
council." Right.

1236
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,720
>> Okay. I like that.

1237
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,480
>> I have it on my calendar that we're

1238
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,079
meeting the 27th of April, that Monday.

1239
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,680
>> Well, typically we've been doing the

1240
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,400
last Monday of the month. That is

1241
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,720
>> It' be the day before council meeting,

1242
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,559
so we to have an update to give.

1243
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:05,920
>> That'll be okay.

1244
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,800
>> It'll work.

1245
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,720
>> Yeah, it's my son's birthday, but we'll

1246
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,960
just go out after. We just have to end

1247
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,680
by 6. So, we'll do it. So, that'll be

1248
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,000
fine. We can So, we'll meet April 27th,

1249
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,400
5:00 p.m. at the city. So, that gives

1250
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,559
Daniel, you and I a few weeks. It won't

1251
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,280
take that though to to get this pretty.

1252
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,520
But again, that gives you time though to

1253
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,760
get any other feedback from other

1254
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,559
committees or any other city employees

1255
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,640
that are you're waiting to hear back

1256
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,480
from. And

1257
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,559
>> probably the mayor, too. We might want

1258
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,359
to get him down on some of what his

1259
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:42,319
thoughts are.

1260
00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:44,800
>> And you'll work on that strategic plan

1261
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,200
overview. Ideally, can that be

1262
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,520
circulated with our committee sooner so

1263
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,760
there could be any feedback

1264
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,000
>> so that we can then just approve it on

1265
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,240
the April meeting?

1266
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,920
>> Yeah,

1267
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,599
>> good idea. And ideally then maybe we

1268
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:04,240
have some completed things to finalize

1269
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,040
and approve in the April meeting so that

1270
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,920
then we can have them ready for council

1271
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,920
u potentially May or if we have to hold

1272
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,680
them to then accompany the general plan

1273
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,040
whenever that gets presented to the

1274
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,119
council then later but at least on our

1275
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:21,040
end we provided a finalized draft.

1276
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,000
Yeah. And we depending on how the bud

1277
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,720
how some things go, our schedules going

1278
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:28,640
to be our meeting schedules are going to

1279
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,720
be really full in May because we have to

1280
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,480
do the whole budget.

1281
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,040
>> And so, um,

1282
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,000
we've done a lot of the pre-work, but

1283
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,319
>> yeah,

1284
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:40,240
>> by law, we have to have things done in a

1285
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,480
certain order. So, that's our priority.

1286
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,040
So, some things may get bumped off,

1287
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,280
>> okay,

1288
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,359
>> of our discussion. Just to let you know.

1289
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,280
>> Yeah. I just want us to be prepared, but

1290
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,960
we'll be flexible depending on the best

1291
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,800
timing for

1292
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,440
>> Yeah. the when the the status of the

1293
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,200
general plan and what the city council

1294
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,960
wants. So, we'll be flexible, but we'll

1295
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,240
be prepared is what I'm hoping for.

1296
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,079
Okay. All right. Well, if there's no

1297
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:04,800
other comments,

1298
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,359
>> I make a motion that we adjourn.

1299
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:10,400
>> It is 54.

1300
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,400
Second that.

1301
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,839
>> Uh, all in favor?

1302
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:14,480
>> I I

1303
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
>> Oh, and you know what? I'm sorry.

1304
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,480
This is so terrible. Um, the meeting

1305
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,160
minutes you approved, you seconded. All

1306
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,720
in favor of approving our January minute

1307
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:27,680
minutes? I

1308
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,040
>> I

1309
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,800
>> Okay, so Sean, I will leave you off.

1310
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,200
We pass. Okay. Uh,

1311
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680
okay. Sorry. Uh, meetings adjourned.

1312
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,880
554. Thank you. I will type those.

1313
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,960
>> Thank you.

1314
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,760
>> I think some

1315
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,480
need just to clarify so many meetings I

1316
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,079
take a million notes because I cannot

1317
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,680
remember cannot no matter what I can

1318
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,839
talk to this

1319
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:01,990
>> I do that sometimes too

1320
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,920
we have to

1321
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,920
all of this is

1322
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,559
>> I know I do like the new system though

1323
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:12,950
>> there is

1324
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040
do we have to do like the whole do I

1325
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:24,710
just click end

1326
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:29,190
Yeah,

1327
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,960
good.

1328
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,760
So down