[0:04] I think it's
[0:06] >> okay. Well, we'll just get started.
[0:07] Okay. It's 501.
[0:12] We will call this meeting to order. This
[0:15] is Kirsten Thompson, Community
[0:17] Development Committee Chair. We have,
[0:19] sorry, I have to keep notes on my phone.
[0:21] We have in attendance myself, Kirsten
[0:24] Thompson, uh Lori Thomas, and Brandy
[0:28] John's. Um in attendance today um
[0:33] excused from today's meeting is Chloe
[0:37] Cleveland and Severin unless they come
[0:40] later and also our um city council
[0:43] leaison
[0:45] Carrie. Um,
[0:51] Daniel,
[0:53] no minutes.
[0:56] I sent the meeting minutes from our last
[0:58] meeting held in January. We had a little
[1:00] bit of a red light, green light on
[1:02] whether or not we should go all in on
[1:04] proceeding with the strategic plan. Told
[1:07] to go on hold, then told to keep going.
[1:09] So we did not hold a meeting in
[1:13] Febru February cuz it's March now. Um so
[1:17] this is the So we haven't had a meeting
[1:19] since the end of January. So I
[1:20] circulated those minutes. So if we have
[1:24] um if we can approve those minutes. Make
[1:27] a motion to approve the January 2026
[1:29] minutes. Second.
[1:32] >> Okay.
[1:34] Let me just write that down.
[1:41] And then
[1:43] with that in order. Oh, hello.
[1:46] >> Hello. We have a printed agenda.
[1:49] >> We don't have a printed agenda, but I
[1:50] will move your name up to attending.
[1:54] I'm keeping notes on my phone for
[1:55] >> I'm trying to go so fast on Limon Hills
[1:57] Drive.
[1:58] >> Hey, 502.
[2:01] Okay. Well, we just approved our last
[2:03] meeting minutes. We didn't hold I was
[2:04] just saying we didn't hold a meeting
[2:06] last month. We were kind of told to go
[2:07] on hold but then told to proceed. So we
[2:10] are proceeding with uh getting the
[2:12] strategic plan together. Daniel, do you
[2:14] want to just give well first and we need
[2:16] to get an update on budget just to have
[2:18] on public record and then two get an
[2:20] update on you can hold that later if you
[2:23] need to and then update on you've met
[2:25] with a few different city employees and
[2:28] the progress on the strategic plan. And
[2:31] as a council, we did receive part of the planning commission's
[2:37] recommendations.
[2:38] >> I think you guys got like the first half
[2:40] of the general plan or something.
[2:42] >> I'm trying to remember how many chapters
[2:43] cuz I can't remember which is half,
[2:45] which way is half, but we got part of
[2:46] it.
[2:47] >> Yeah.
[2:48] >> Can't remember if we did it in thirds or
[2:50] fourths.
[2:50] >> Yeah, that's what I'm trying to
[2:51] remember, too.
[2:53] >> I thought it was like one through six,
[2:55] but
[2:56] >> yeah, I think so. I think it was one
[2:57] through six. Is this just old stuff or
[3:00] is this Oh, here's the de here's the
[3:02] agenda.
[3:03] >> Oh, just under our
[3:05] >> Oh, I didn't even know we had one of
[3:07] those.
[3:09] He's usually just sitting here.
[3:13] I thought that we she would have had one
[3:15] for us.
[3:17] >> Okay. Sorry about that.
[3:19] >> No, thank you for pointing that out.
[3:23] Okay, Daniel, are you ready to take the
[3:27] reigns? Yeah, sure. And when you were
[3:29] saying chapters 1 through six, what what
[3:30] was that about?
[3:32] >> I think this the council I think
[3:34] received from the planning commission
[3:39] >> uh some chapters of the general plan
[3:43] draft. I don't know if it was
[3:47] this is our copy that I printed. I'm
[3:50] going to ask her to print
[3:51] >> from what the community development
[3:53] committee approved. I don't have the
[3:55] edits that actually make sense. So this
[3:58] is
[3:59] >> my 100page copy.
[4:01] >> So if I'm understanding that correctly,
[4:03] planning commission has
[4:07] what made a recommendation on a portion
[4:10] of the general plan and forwarded that
[4:12] to council.
[4:14] >> Just maybe looking for edits.
[4:16] >> I think all of it now has been passed on
[4:19] to Ben. All of it has passed on to me,
[4:22] but um but because the mayor was looking
[4:24] over it first and then he was doing
[4:26] something before it sent to us and I
[4:30] still don't know if if it shows side by
[4:33] side
[4:35] what the committee did and what the
[4:37] planning commission did or if it's just
[4:40] here's the planning commission
[4:42] because we were supposed to get it side
[4:44] by side or colorcoded at least. I don't
[4:46] know how you presented it to them, but
[4:48] it was supposed to be so that we could
[4:51] see the committee's stuff in one color
[4:54] and the additions or subtractions in a
[4:57] different color from the planning
[4:58] commission.
[4:59] >> I think I don't know what that looks
[5:00] like.
[5:01] >> Yeah, because the planning commission
[5:03] just took the community developments
[5:05] plan and crossed off a word here and,
[5:07] you know, added this little thing here.
[5:09] Um, and gave that to Ben and I think Ben
[5:12] was making the changes that the council
[5:14] will see.
[5:16] I don't know. I want to see I just want
[5:18] to see committees planning commission
[5:21] and then make my own mind. Right. I
[5:23] don't
[5:23] >> Well, you could probably do a screen
[5:25] share and have like one half be the left
[5:27] one one half and you just compare the
[5:29] differences.
[5:30] >> I'll have to ask.
[5:31] >> I think the planning commission changes
[5:33] were pretty minimal.
[5:35] >> Yeah.
[5:36] >> I heard from Wayne today that the
[5:37] planning commission changes so far have
[5:39] been quite minimal.
[5:40] >> Yeah.
[5:41] >> You said a few little things of wording
[5:43] here and there. Um, but a lot of it
[5:45] isn't substantive in nature. And he said
[5:47] most of the goals are staying the same.
[5:50] >> Yeah, I've heard the same.
[5:52] >> I have not seen an example. Okay, so
[5:55] Kirstston, sorry to go tangent. I'll
[5:58] answer your questions. So budget um
[6:00] we're doing great on budget. We uh so
[6:04] the overall project size um I don't
[6:08] recall the amount of the full grant that
[6:11] Wooden Hills received. I believe, I'm
[6:13] going off memory here, that Woodland
[6:15] Hills had a grant plus a match of a
[6:18] certain amount and maybe a little bit of
[6:20] that was spent with a prior consultant
[6:22] early on, but the budget that came to us
[6:25] at Sunrise was 117,000.
[6:28] >> Yeah, I think it was 125 altogether.
[6:31] Does that sound about right, Lori? It
[6:33] was about 125 and then we paid like
[6:37] eight or 10 to the other consultant, but
[6:39] not all of it came out of the grant
[6:41] money because some of it the city was
[6:44] using for that other portal. So, it kind
[6:47] of came out of two spots. But yeah, but
[6:50] >> about that.
[6:51] >> Yeah. So, the amount that went to
[6:53] Sunrise Engineering is 117,164.
[6:57] And right now we have spent um in the
[7:00] 80s, the low 80s. Um so the last month
[7:05] I'm seeing 77,160
[7:07] and I know that we're somewhere beyond
[7:09] that now. So I don't know the exact
[7:10] amount right now, but it's going to be
[7:12] in the low 80s. So that means we have
[7:14] more than $30,000 left. So we have
[7:17] plenty of funding to do whatever. Also,
[7:20] I have been incredibly just on my
[7:23] projects, how I do things. I am
[7:25] incredibly picky on my billable hours.
[7:28] And so, um,
[7:32] you know, we can recoup whatever because
[7:34] I I don't bill a lot of times when I'm
[7:36] just talking with staff or fixing things
[7:38] here and there. Um but yeah, so we have enough budget that we are going
[7:43] to make it to the end of the project
[7:44] just fine and we can do whatever is
[7:47] needed to make sure that we have a
[7:49] general plan and strategic plan that is
[7:51] what the city wants and is useful to the
[7:53] city. Um we'll continue talking about
[7:55] the strategic plan today. I understand
[7:59] that I think there are some different
[8:02] views about what needs to be included in
[8:03] that strategic plan and there's enough
[8:05] budget that we can make sure that uh
[8:08] whatever it is we need to include we can
[8:10] get included. So I wouldn't be worried
[8:12] at this point that we're running out of
[8:14] budget and that we're going to have to
[8:16] cut things or whatever. We'll we should
[8:18] be able to accommodate um you know
[8:21] whatever it is that needs to be in that
[8:23] strategic plan. So that's good news.
[8:27] Um,
[8:28] >> thank you for that.
[8:29] >> Yep. And then what what was the next
[8:31] thing, Kirsten?
[8:32] >> Just what's the status of the draft on
[8:34] the strategic plan? You've met with some
[8:36] of the city employees.
[8:40] >> How are we doing? And
[8:42] >> yeah,
[8:42] >> like to keep that moving this project
[8:44] moving along. And and that's one thing I
[8:46] was kind of wondering about too because
[8:49] it was my understanding that well
[8:51] because the strategic plan will after it
[8:54] comes to this committee will go directly
[8:55] to the council not to the planning
[8:58] commission and so um in getting the
[9:02] staff's input because it will be a
[9:04] council document just like the general
[9:06] plan is the planning commission's
[9:08] document. How
[9:11] what's that process looking like on your
[9:14] side, Daniel?
[9:16] >> Yeah. So, I can work with you guys to
[9:19] get
[9:20] uh the working draft of the strategic
[9:23] plan together and then it will go
[9:24] straight to the council.
[9:27] and the strategic plan. Just so we're
[9:29] all on the same page, they're the
[9:31] short-term goals that outline the steps
[9:34] that the city is taking now to point
[9:37] toward the vision that's in the general
[9:39] plan. So, it's not going to be rehashing
[9:41] the general vision of the the general
[9:43] plan. Um, it's going to be there to
[9:46] support the general plan and to outline
[9:49] who's doing what and what we need to see
[9:52] by when. Um, so more actionable items
[9:55] where people know who's responsible for
[9:57] what, which committee or which
[9:59] individual, which staff member or you
[10:01] know what what board should be working
[10:03] on what tasks, right? Um, and a goal for
[10:06] when that should be accomplished by and
[10:08] what it looks like to have it
[10:09] accomplished. So those are called the
[10:11] key performance indicators. Um, so yeah.
[10:15] Um, so I met with Ted and he is over
[10:21] many of the different areas of the
[10:23] general plan and so he gave me what he
[10:26] sees as his uh next steps. So his action
[10:30] steps and what he sees as the key
[10:33] performance indicators that um he feels
[10:36] like would indicate that he has
[10:39] completed that step um as well as the
[10:41] timeline. And so he has done that for
[10:43] transportation, water preservation and
[10:47] the natural environment as well as the
[10:49] public facilities chapters. Uh for each
[10:51] of those he came up with three
[10:56] yes um three action action steps um with
[11:01] a one to threeyear horizon. So either
[11:03] immediate to accomplish within the next
[11:05] year or a short short term to accomplish
[11:07] in the next two to three years. So he
[11:09] has yeah three of those for each of
[11:11] those. um three chapters. I've also
[11:13] reached out to Sherry with the PTR
[11:16] committee. I know she's been out of
[11:18] country. She's probably back now. Um I
[11:21] reached out again this week and haven't
[11:22] heard anything. So, I don't know if that
[11:24] was discussed at the last PTR meeting in
[11:28] March. I think they met
[11:31] >> two weeks agoish. Um but I have not
[11:35] heard back from her. Um, so I went ahead
[11:38] and started to fill out some of the rest
[11:41] of the strategic plan matrix with what I
[11:46] think might be the direction um to go in
[11:51] these other chapters. So we have um
[11:53] parks and trails. I also reached out to
[11:55] Wayne about land use, housing, and
[11:58] annexation. Um and his response was kind
[12:01] of like, hey, we just sent it all to the
[12:03] council and council's going to tell us
[12:05] what's important. Um, so we can I I went
[12:10] through and I selected things that I
[12:12] think would be the most immediate action
[12:16] steps and the timelines um and I can put
[12:18] in the responsible parties u and maybe
[12:21] before we um kick the entire document
[12:25] over to uh the council we uh run that by
[12:30] uh Wayne and you know the rest of staff
[12:33] and those committees.
[12:35] um
[12:35] >> land use housing and what else?
[12:38] >> Land use housing and annexation which is
[12:40] that last element.
[12:42] >> So Daniel did you um I mean since now
[12:45] legislative session is over we know what
[12:47] passed what didn't pass.
[12:49] >> When we were working on the general plan
[12:50] stuff some of that was still up in the
[12:52] air. So in between now and when we
[12:56] finalize it has any anything been needed
[12:59] to um supplement any changes that in
[13:03] state statute? Good question. I can't
[13:05] think of anything luckily um in the 2025
[13:10] uh update we or 2024 one of those we had
[13:14] updates but we had updates about water
[13:16] in 2024. We also had an update about um
[13:20] transportation and some updates about um
[13:25] the the nodal development for uh what
[13:30] like the station not station area plans
[13:32] but um for some some of those types of
[13:34] situations for communities that have um
[13:37] like UTA stations that was in the 20 I
[13:40] think 205 update but the 2026 update I
[13:44] did not see anything that would put new
[13:47] standards in a general plan. I will
[13:49] double check that. But my recollection
[13:51] from just last week, we had our APA, the
[13:55] American Pine Association. We did our uh
[13:57] legislative roundup or whatever they
[14:00] call it, right?
[14:01] >> Yeah.
[14:02] >> And I don't recall anything.
[14:04] There were some land use issues, but I
[14:07] didn't know if it would affect us or or
[14:09] not or if they were just in general. I
[14:11] mean, there's some things that might be
[14:15] there were so many bills that it was
[14:18] hard to keep track of all of them, but
[14:20] um out of the 200 I think 65 bills that
[14:24] affected municipal government and maybe
[14:27] half of those passed, but it's always
[14:30] hard to remember
[14:31] >> several which ones had to do with um
[14:35] things that would actually impact us as
[14:38] an organization. I I've gone to several
[14:41] wrapups afterwards and I'm still trying
[14:43] to just make sure that I've gotten it
[14:46] down.
[14:47] >> Yeah, I think it's what HB 184 is the
[14:50] main
[14:51] >> land use bill and I can take another
[14:54] look at that, but uh there are things
[14:56] that will need to be updated, I'm sure,
[14:58] within the code itself as there are
[15:01] again more changes with ADUs. There are
[15:04] um
[15:06] >> changes on a lot of random
[15:07] >> two that I was thinking of. There was a
[15:09] couple of water ones. I think it was
[15:11] HP501
[15:13] and then there was also the wildland
[15:16] interface.
[15:17] >> Yes.
[15:17] >> Ordinance one
[15:18] >> and that one had some changes. And so
[15:20] those two things will heavily impact our
[15:23] city. And so it's hard to know, but if
[15:26] you can just double check on those kinds
[15:28] of things and make sure that we're not
[15:30] coming back and having to change all of
[15:32] this again.
[15:34] >> Yeah, a lot of changes about moderate
[15:36] income housing again, but all of that
[15:38] relates to communities with 5,000 or
[15:40] more residents. So you are lucky to be
[15:43] small and exempted from that.
[15:46] >> There was a lot.
[15:47] >> There was there was a lot.
[15:49] >> Yeah. Luckily, some of those that were
[15:52] going to take out sides of city did not
[15:54] pass. So, there were a couple of things
[15:56] that were thrown out that it would be
[15:58] everybody no matter
[16:01] what your city size was. So, I was glad
[16:02] they left it at 5,000.
[16:06] >> Yeah. Um, yeah, if you were a larger
[16:07] city, there would probably be things to
[16:09] change here in the general plan. Uh, so
[16:10] I'll I'll double check and let you guys
[16:13] know.
[16:14] >> Um, do you want me to share my screen?
[16:17] >> That would be great. Oh, okay.
[16:29] » Okay. Are you looking at an Excel file?
[16:32] >> Yes.
[16:36] » Whoops. That's okay. That's as big as we
[16:38] go. Okay. Um, so this is the
[16:42] implementation matrix that I put
[16:44] together. And so you can see
[16:49] uh the chapter, the action step and the
[16:52] timeline. So let's start here. This is
[16:54] what Ted submitted. Um that's not okay.
[16:58] So uh he said to actively update the uh
[17:03] PMP and maintain the roads
[17:06] >> pavement management plan doesn't know
[17:09] what that is. Yeah. Could we not do
[17:12] abbreviations just because we don't want
[17:15] to make any assumptions? And then two,
[17:17] I'm just wondering when I'm looking at
[17:19] this,
[17:20] >> the action step, how do I know which
[17:22] goal it relates to? I get that there's a
[17:25] chapter.
[17:27] >> Yeah, they don't all
[17:30] relate. like some sometimes the action
[17:33] step is an exact verbatim goal and other
[17:37] times it's kind of a subset or like an
[17:40] amalgamation of multiple goals. So I
[17:42] could put um in fact one of my
[17:46] iterations had this. I could put another
[17:48] uh uh column right next to it of goals
[17:52] and I could put the exact citation,
[17:54] right? And some of them are going to
[17:56] relate to like two or three goals.
[17:58] >> Um
[17:59] >> yeah.
[17:59] Yeah. Do you think that'd be
[18:00] helpful?
[18:01] >> I think it would be really great to have
[18:03] the citation in case so that people can
[18:06] kind of go back and refresh their mind
[18:08] on what are we talking about,
[18:10] >> which goal this relates to.
[18:11] >> Okay, I will do that. So, yeah, he says
[18:14] to actively update the payment
[18:16] management plan and to um
[18:20] accomplish a minimum of one maintenance
[18:23] project per year.
[18:26] Um, then reconstruct remaining and
[18:29] that's not spelled right, but I'll go
[18:30] through and edit that kind of stuff
[18:32] later. Um, reconstruct remaining
[18:35] deteriorated roads and complete at least
[18:37] one project over the next two years and
[18:39] actively seek funding and then plan and
[18:41] pursue trail projects for safer
[18:43] non-motorized active transportation. And
[18:46] um, his key performance indicator is to
[18:49] get to obtain grant funding for active
[18:52] transportation. So that can kind of go
[18:53] in parks and trails as well. Um, I
[18:55] haven't heard back from parks and
[18:56] trails, but I was already thinking
[18:58] something along the lines of pursuing
[19:01] grants for park amenities. I don't know
[19:02] that we want to be specific. I know
[19:04] they've applied for pickle ball courts
[19:07] and various things in the past um and
[19:10] present. Um, and so as a key performance
[19:13] indicator, that could be something like
[19:15] applying for a certain number of grants
[19:16] per year or, you know, submitting a
[19:18] competitive application each year until
[19:20] one of them comes through. Um,
[19:22] >> yeah, they usually do a few of them um a
[19:26] year. So far, we haven't received the
[19:29] ones that we've asked for. The other
[19:31] thing that was brought up the other
[19:32] night was um replacing the playground
[19:36] equipment at the park and they get that
[19:39] with a grant or um originally when we
[19:42] put the playground equipment at the
[19:44] park, it was like a fundraiser where
[19:45] different people in town contributed to
[19:48] it and then and so I don't know if
[19:52] they'll want to do something similar or
[19:54] if they'll just go for a grant and have
[19:56] a match be from the citizens. I don't
[19:59] know.
[20:01] But
[20:02] >> is that something that's just a idea or
[20:06] is that something
[20:08] >> it was brought to us by the PTR?
[20:10] >> Okay. So, it's been brought to the
[20:11] council.
[20:12] >> It did in a very very casual way like
[20:15] Okay.
[20:15] >> We would like to upgrade this. Is it
[20:17] going to be in the budget? No, it's not.
[20:20] Sorry. But can you figure out another
[20:22] way? Sure.
[20:23] >> Okay. So, you didn't know how far down?
[20:25] >> Yeah. We did our budget priorities the
[20:26] other last meeting. So, and it was not
[20:29] part of it. And the pickle ball court,
[20:32] we do have some money set aside for it
[20:34] if as a match if they get the grant cuz
[20:38] all grants have a match. So, parks and
[20:40] trails though, like you said, Jensen,
[20:41] you've tried to do some outreach to
[20:44] them. We're just kind of on hold till
[20:45] you get a response back and you're
[20:47] putting together a a draft of maybe what
[20:49] you think
[20:50] >> they would like, but this is subject to
[20:52] change depending on that.
[20:54] >> That Yeah, that's right. Um Okay.
[20:56] >> Yeah. And I'm thinking a key performance
[20:58] indicator should be something based on
[21:00] submitting competitive grant
[21:01] applications, right? Or engagement with
[21:03] the community because we want something
[21:05] that they can control, right? We can't
[21:06] control receiving the grant.
[21:08] >> Um, also I think they should have some
[21:10] sort of action step that relates to a
[21:13] community engagement component, right?
[21:15] something about volunteer events or
[21:18] getting volunteers to do trail
[21:20] maintenance or something with public
[21:21] education, public outreach, you know,
[21:23] something about them engaging the public
[21:25] with some key performance indicator
[21:28] along those lines. And that could even
[21:29] be like creating a friends of or, you
[21:32] know, something where we have the
[21:34] ability for people to submit um whatever
[21:38] it is, but you know, to help with
[21:40] matching um funds, right? Then water.
[21:44] This came from TED. So execute planned
[21:47] storm water projects based on the flood
[21:49] study and to complete one project a year
[21:54] including the first year including year
[21:57] one and then to develop a public
[22:00] communication platform for water
[22:02] conservation and he wants that fully
[22:05] implemented through Yapify which is
[22:07] something that they've been working on
[22:10] and then educate and train the public on
[22:12] the state's wildfire risk program
[22:15] related to HB 48 from last year and
[22:18] there there's going to also be this
[22:20] year. Um
[22:22] >> yeah, that's one of the ones I was
[22:23] asking you to double check and make sure
[22:24] that anything else in our plan is
[22:27] doesn't leave out because that's a
[22:29] pretty big one.
[22:30] >> Yeah, that is a big one. Um so I can
[22:33] take a look at that. Um
[22:36] so yeah, he wanted something about
[22:38] public education with 50% um responses
[22:42] to homeowner inspections within two
[22:45] years of inspections offered. So the the
[22:47] state of Utah uh will offer inspections
[22:50] for people um to to check that they have
[22:56] taken the mitigation steps under HB48 if
[23:00] they're in a WOOI area. Um and and his
[23:03] uh KPI is that 50% of the residents in
[23:07] Woodland Hills would have participated
[23:10] within the first two years. I can work
[23:11] on that wording. That just is what came
[23:13] from Ted.
[23:14] >> I think they've already started that a
[23:16] little bit. Um just in our local fire
[23:18] department has been going around. I've
[23:20] had a few calls from residents who have
[23:22] gotten door hangers with something and
[23:24] they're calling me to say, "Carrie, what
[23:26] is this?" and I haven't had a chance to
[23:28] ask him, but uh they want to make sure
[23:31] that it's local people and it's optional
[23:34] and whatever because somebody was going
[23:36] around town saying, "By the way, if you
[23:38] answer that door hanger, they're going
[23:40] to increase your insurance."
[23:42] >> So, it it's easy how how misinformation
[23:46] can just spread like crazy when one
[23:48] person says, "That's why they put it on
[23:50] your door."
[23:51] >> Yeah.
[23:51] >> They're going to turn you into your
[23:52] insurance company. I said, "How are they
[23:54] going to know who your insurance company
[23:55] is? would be the opposite also. Anyway,
[23:59] okay. Um, and public facilities. So, to
[24:02] plan, fund, and execute a water
[24:04] replacement project. And he'd like to
[24:06] have a project funded with a design in
[24:09] progress in the next year. And then
[24:11] update the water master plan and have
[24:14] that water master plan completed in the
[24:16] next two to three years. And have a
[24:18] fully functioning asset management plan.
[24:21] and to be able to complete and track all
[24:23] assets in the next 2 to 3 years. Um, so
[24:27] that's what came from TED. Then for land
[24:30] use and housing,
[24:32] um, these ones came from me just based
[24:34] on what I'm thinking looks like
[24:38] where we are. Um, so the first one is,
[24:42] uh, just as Carrie was saying, um, to
[24:44] update and align the land use code with
[24:46] the new general plan and the LMA updates
[24:48] from 2026.
[24:50] >> Um, fill out web so that everybody
[24:52] knows.
[24:53] >> Yeah, sure. Uh I'll Yeah, I'll I'll I'll
[24:56] work on the late the wording later. Um
[24:58] so, Utah code updates.
[25:01] >> Um
[25:02] so, develop consensus on desired design
[25:06] guidelines and styles for a potential
[25:09] commercial mixeduse overlay. Here's
[25:10] where I want to be really careful,
[25:11] right? I want to make sure that we're
[25:15] pointing in the right direction and and
[25:17] I don't want to point people toward
[25:18] contention. I also don't want to point
[25:20] people toward um
[25:23] what a vision that it's not going to
[25:25] like materialize. And so the first two I
[25:28] thought well first of all Wooden Hills
[25:29] needs to know
[25:31] what what would they want right? Um is
[25:34] there consensus here? Do we have an idea
[25:37] if if a develop if Wooden Hills was
[25:39] going to work with the developer to come
[25:40] up with an overlay? Do we have an idea
[25:42] of what type of design standards we even
[25:44] like? What type of product we'd even
[25:47] like to see? Right. Um, I don't think we
[25:50] do. I think there's kind of a vision. I
[25:53] don't know if it's fully shared, but my
[25:55] sense is
[25:57] people have some different visions. We
[25:59] kind of have an idea, right? We have
[26:01] enough of an idea that we were able to
[26:02] put a general plan together, but maybe
[26:04] not enough of an idea that we're able to
[26:05] put a code together. Do you think does
[26:07] that feel accurate? I think so because I think that we want to make sure that
[26:14] if that land sells that we have
[26:17] something in place prior so if a
[26:19] developer comes we're not just going uh
[26:22] I don't know we'll get back with you. We
[26:23] want to be able to say these are some
[26:25] ideas we have let's work together.
[26:28] >> Um so I think it would be important that
[26:31] we have something in place. I mean, it
[26:33] took a long time when we did the overlay
[26:35] for Summit Creek and um
[26:40] and it still didn't necessarily come out
[26:43] the way we had thought it would because
[26:45] sometimes things are done in a just a
[26:48] discussion and not necessarily in the
[26:50] written and so I think it's important to
[26:52] have it written out so that if a
[26:54] developer comes
[26:56] we have we have some written documents
[26:59] that at least guide us.
[27:02] Yeah. So that's why I was think kind of
[27:04] a three-step approach here. So the first
[27:05] one is uh those discussions, right?
[27:10] Develop some sort of consensus on what is wanted. The next thing is what's
[27:15] the feasibility, right? And so that's
[27:17] where the city would need to talk to
[27:20] some developers and get a sense of is
[27:23] this really the right spot? What would
[27:25] actually come here? What would pencil?
[27:27] Right? like we don't want to go and
[27:29] create a code only to find out that what
[27:32] we're thinking isn't even going to work,
[27:34] right? And then the third one is once we have a vision, once we have
[27:38] consensus as to like what we'd want,
[27:40] once we know that, hey, it could
[27:42] actually pencil if the right developer
[27:44] comes along, they could actually
[27:44] construct it, then we can go to let's
[27:47] create the commercial mixeduse overlay
[27:49] or or zone, right? Um,
[27:52] >> yeah, when we talked about a little bit,
[27:54] you know, the the mayor's thinking more
[27:56] kind of like how you presented at one
[27:58] time, Daniel, maybe kind of a main
[28:00] street type where it's flat, but it's
[28:04] like a main street so that there's a
[28:06] gathering place that's not just the park
[28:08] that would have parking and other
[28:10] things. And he also wants to put in a
[28:12] cemetery. So, that's interesting. Um,
[28:18] and so I think that that's the route he
[28:21] would like to go, but not necessarily
[28:23] knowing
[28:25] where it is. It's still just a cloud of ideas, right? And so having some more
[28:32] consensus and and designations would at
[28:35] least be some framework for a
[28:37] discussion.
[28:39] >> So I'm assuming responsible parties for
[28:42] what you've just discussed, land use
[28:43] housing. you've mentioned already.
[28:45] That's planning commission and does that
[28:49] mean also city council?
[28:51] >> So all land use goes by law goes to
[28:54] planning commission first and then to
[28:56] city council.
[28:57] >> Okay. Because planning commission can't authorize
[29:01] anything but it has to go through them
[29:04] and then it goes to the council with
[29:06] their recommendation which may or may
[29:08] not be um taken but most most of the
[29:12] time it's taken
[29:14] >> because they do a lot of hard work.
[29:19] » Yeah. So does that feel like the right
[29:22] direction? And with housing, I was also
[29:24] I put on there
[29:27] adopting the actual design standards.
[29:29] Again, that's going to be a few years
[29:30] out. You need to have a vision first,
[29:32] right? We need to develop the consensus
[29:34] on what's desired, know what's feasible,
[29:38] >> and after you do that, then we can start
[29:40] looking um at the the standards.
[29:44] Sometimes communities flip those and
[29:45] they spend all this time. They create an
[29:47] ordinance. They put all these standards
[29:48] in there. It looks really great, but
[29:50] they've never really figured out where
[29:52] it's going to go and if it even is
[29:54] feasible.
[29:55] >> It's feasible.
[29:55] >> And then it just sits there for 30 years
[29:59] >> because it's not
[29:59] >> Well, that's what we've had in our past
[30:01] general plan. We had that strip along
[30:04] 11200 as potential commercial or the
[30:08] part that now is owned by um Three Bridges that it was potential.
[30:16] But it's been like that for 20ome years
[30:19] and there was never a step to say maybe
[30:23] right because
[30:25] >> so it was just it's just one of those
[30:26] things and so I think that it's better
[30:29] to be in line so that as people are
[30:32] looking
[30:34] uh one of the things that comes up a lot
[30:36] in discussions in the housing industry
[30:38] and and in legislators with legislators
[30:42] is are you prepared not necessarily are
[30:45] you building something although they
[30:47] want us to but are you prepared if
[30:50] someone comes in to to have the same
[30:53] vision that they have in in but in our
[30:56] own way.
[31:00] Okay. I just have a few notes. So you'll
[31:04] spell out any abbreviations. So you've
[31:06] already mentioned that if there's any
[31:09] links like the LMA one, does it is there
[31:12] a a website that's like a reference?
[31:17] » Yeah, I mean I'll just put Utah code
[31:18] here.
[31:20] Utah code 2026 updates.
[31:22] >> Yeah, if there's ever any time that it's
[31:24] just maybe helpful for whoever is in
[31:26] charge of this to be able to, you know,
[31:28] then link to the Utah code website. Um,
[31:32] so any opportunity for that that can
[31:34] link them somewhere for their work I
[31:36] think is ideal. Um,
[31:41] can we turn this into a table when it's
[31:44] closer to being final so that you can
[31:47] filter and search by the name of the
[31:49] responsible party or the chapter or you
[31:52] know whatever. And then and I'm happy to
[31:56] help with this Excel part of things
[32:00] um if you want to share it with me, but
[32:03] I also feel like you probably know how
[32:05] to do a lot of this. Um and then I think
[32:09] it would also be nice if the different
[32:12] chapters were colorcoded
[32:16] >> so you it's just a little more readable.
[32:22] » Um yeah. So with that my recollection is
[32:25] we had talked about
[32:27] >> whether I should put
[32:31] the whole strategic plan and matrix in
[32:34] the same format as a general plan like
[32:35] an in in design or keep it as something
[32:38] like an Excel file so then it's really
[32:40] easily adjustable and I think we had
[32:42] said let's keep it in a format like this
[32:46] not in in design so we can go and change
[32:48] it as time goes on. Is that right?
[32:50] >> I think that's still the best way
[32:52] forward. Does anybody else have an
[32:54] opinion on that? So it's not just like a
[32:56] PDF that's difficult maybe to adjust.
[32:59] You want it to be a little more living
[33:02] >> document. Absolutely.
[33:03] >> It's more of a spreadsheet that's
[33:05] actively
[33:06] >> until it's finished.
[33:08] >> Well, so when the strate feel like when
[33:10] the strategic plan is like more
[33:11] finalized, you want it to be like not
[33:13] editable.
[33:16] » Isn't that what we do is we come up with
[33:18] a completed document or is it always
[33:21] editable?
[33:24] I think we have to have maybe a little
[33:26] of both because we have to be able to
[33:27] put we have to put all our public
[33:30] documents like this on a on our website
[33:33] I believe like our general plan has to
[33:35] be um and that could maybe be an
[33:38] overview without necessarily all the
[33:41] specifics but leave the specifics of hey
[33:44] we cross that off that's done you know
[33:47] as the living document but have
[33:49] something that is more
[33:51] >> static and on on the website that just
[33:53] says we have one
[33:55] and it's covering these areas.
[33:57] >> Okay. Well, then that makes this that
[34:00] makes the spreadsheet obsolete, which is
[34:01] fine.
[34:02] >> No, the spreadsheet's still here because
[34:04] we still want the staff.
[34:06] >> Well, then who's in charge of updating
[34:08] the static version?
[34:10] >> I would say the mayor and the staff
[34:13] >> because it would have to just have like
[34:14] a last updated and then they just have
[34:16] to regularly
[34:18] >> they have staff meeting what every week.
[34:20] weak
[34:21] >> update the version that's online.
[34:24] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[34:24] >> Well, this version wouldn't be online
[34:26] and that's what I'm saying. There would
[34:27] just online would be this would be an
[34:29] internal document just for the staff and
[34:31] the mayor and the council and then there
[34:34] would be a written document that would
[34:36] be online saying there's a strategic
[34:38] plan. These are the things that are
[34:39] happening and it's just like the general
[34:41] plan just a page or two uh put on there
[34:44] that accompanies and we're these are the
[34:46] things we're working on. Then if you
[34:48] want to know more then you can contact
[34:50] the mayor or the staff.
[34:52] >> So on the static version does that
[34:54] include action steps or KPIs or is that
[34:57] just like here's the topic and here's
[34:59] who's responsible for
[35:00] >> or just here's the topic not even who's
[35:02] responsible because staff changes over
[35:04] time. Just here's a strategic plan that
[35:07] the council
[35:08] >> put like Ted's title though that whoever
[35:11] is in that role is responsible for
[35:13] transportation.
[35:14] >> Yeah. Just the titles. Daniel, does that
[35:17] feel like that makes sense to to have a
[35:20] static version like that? Does that
[35:22] >> Yeah, I think we could have a we don't
[35:26] have to run it through Inesign, but we
[35:28] could make the Excel file look nice. So,
[35:31] we could put it as a PDF, right? And
[35:33] that could be the adopted version that
[35:35] goes on the website and then because it
[35:37] is in Excel, whoever with staff wants
[35:41] to, you know, hold on to it, they can
[35:44] adjust as time goes. But you don't need
[35:45] to go and like amend your strategic plan
[35:48] each time you cross something off or
[35:50] whatever. You could just
[35:52] >> Well, Daniel, I'm even thinking even
[35:54] simpler than that. I think this version
[35:57] here is an internal document only, but
[36:00] the static one would be like a one or
[36:03] two pager that just gives a summary of
[36:06] what the strategic plan is going to
[36:08] cover and that it has um action steps
[36:11] and a timeline. and if you want more
[36:14] information
[36:16] and then you put the city phone number
[36:17] or website I mean or email and just let
[36:20] it be like that. So it showcases that
[36:22] there is one but it doesn't necessarily
[36:25] have to go into the weeds.
[36:28] >> Yeah, I think either one works. If
[36:30] that's the direction we go, then that
[36:31] makes the public facing document really
[36:33] simple.
[36:34] >> Yeah, that's what I think I I think
[36:36] people don't want to really necessarily
[36:38] dive in deep to all of this, but they
[36:41] want to know we're doing something.
[36:42] Well, or maybe something we offer to the
[36:45] council is do you make this where you
[36:49] could do view only to the public
[36:53] if they want it to have more of the
[36:55] detail that's public facing.
[36:58] But if they would prefer just a more
[37:00] simplified version like Carrie's
[37:01] proposing, then yeah, that's a lot
[37:04] simpler.
[37:04] >> How other cities do it? How do they
[37:06] >> they just have their website? they just
[37:07] have a basic page because they let the
[37:09] staff do it because you don't want to
[37:10] get into the legalities if there's a
[37:12] problem or if there's somebody who
[37:15] >> I feel like less is more because I mean
[37:18] if they have access to the information
[37:20] if they can call someone and get a copy
[37:21] of it if they want the full amount but
[37:23] or the full packet but I think putting
[37:25] out so much information might just raise
[37:27] so many questions.
[37:29] >> Yeah.
[37:29] >> And it would overwhelm the staff
[37:31] >> where an overview I think would be ideal
[37:33] if that's how I mean especially if
[37:35] that's how other people do it too. other
[37:36] cities do it.
[37:40] » Strategic plans are all over the board.
[37:42] Um, we talked about that with our first
[37:44] uh meeting about strategic plans a few
[37:47] months ago and I I think I shared some
[37:49] examples. General plans are regulated by
[37:52] the state. They have to include certain
[37:53] things. They have to include certain
[37:55] topics. Strategic plans are optional,
[37:57] right? And so some cities do them, some
[38:00] cities don't. Some cities have it
[38:02] strictly as
[38:05] um well, for example, PAC PAC's
[38:07] strategic plan is the third tier of
[38:10] goals that Woodland Hills has in its own
[38:13] general plan and that's it. That that's
[38:16] all it is. Um because you'll recall in
[38:19] our own general plan, the Woodland Hills
[38:21] general plan, we have we have goals, we
[38:23] have um object objectives, and we have
[38:27] action items, right? It doesn't say who
[38:29] does it or when, but you know there's the three tiers. And for some
[38:33] people or for some county cities or
[38:35] counties that that is their strategic
[38:37] plan and others go more specific like
[38:40] this and others can talk about you know
[38:42] other issues uh whatever the you know if
[38:45] you're city of Moab for example you're
[38:48] going to be talking about how to do
[38:49] tourism mitigation stuff and their
[38:51] strategic plan will go into certain
[38:52] strategies or it might go into more
[38:54] about how police department works or
[38:56] something if that's the big issue. So
[38:58] strategic plan is much more loosey-
[39:01] goosey and it can be whatever you guys
[39:02] want it to be. I don't think there's a
[39:04] right answer or a wrong answer here.
[39:07] >> Okay. So this
[39:08] >> working spreadsheet is internal for the
[39:11] city employees or committees that are
[39:14] assigned to the or are the responsible
[39:17] parties.
[39:18] >> And then what we're calling then now a
[39:21] strategic plan overview. So we have a
[39:23] paragraph at the top that gives an
[39:25] overview and then we have a list of all
[39:28] the different chapter topics with
[39:30] another you know or a table with the
[39:32] chapter topics and then who's the point
[39:35] of contact
[39:37] essentially for that topic and then
[39:40] their contact info. Is that the
[39:42] thinking?
[39:47] Did I explain that?
[39:50] >> So paragraph three column table with
[39:54] land use chapter responsible party
[39:57] contact info that's it
[40:00] >> in the public facing version
[40:02] >> yeah so column A column C and then
[40:05] another column with a email
[40:11] » do we need to do let's see so if we're
[40:15] not going to share
[40:17] the details publicly should the
[40:19] strategic plan that's public facing just
[40:23] outline
[40:24] what it is and that it exists.
[40:26] >> Yeah, just a I think just a general
[40:28] paragraph. I don't think we need all the
[40:30] other because it's already things that
[40:32] need to be on there for contact
[40:34] information are already on there
[40:36] >> on the general plan or on where
[40:38] >> on the website
[40:39] >> on the city website.
[40:41] >> Like if some the people who call me or
[40:43] email me, they get it all off the
[40:44] website.
[40:45] >> Okay. So then we're just doing a
[40:46] paragraph.
[40:47] >> Yeah. paragraph or two, maybe even just enough to say here, this is
[40:52] accompanying these are the short-term
[40:54] goals accompanying the general plan
[40:55] because the general plan has to be on
[40:57] the website.
[40:57] >> We're not putting goals,
[40:59] >> huh?
[40:59] >> But we're not putting short-term goals
[41:00] because they're living here,
[41:02] >> right? But we're just saying the
[41:03] strategic plan
[41:04] >> has short-term goals.
[41:05] and it accompanies
[41:07] the general plan and it's for the the
[41:10] council and the and the employees to
[41:13] fulfill those goals. Okay, Daniel, does
[41:14] that feel clear then of what that
[41:16] overview one pager is going to look
[41:17] like?
[41:18] >> Yeah. Should I put that in the general
[41:20] plan right after the executive summary?
[41:24] >> Sure, we can offer it and they can
[41:27] decide if they want it in there or not.
[41:41] So basically a resident would pick up
[41:44] the general plan. The executive summary
[41:47] would explain what's in the general
[41:49] plan. Right after that we say by the way
[41:51] the city has a strategic plan which
[41:54] outlines the more specific
[41:56] responsibilities of various staff
[41:58] members and boards, committees,
[42:00] volunteers. Um directs them how to
[42:02] achieve the things in the general plan.
[42:05] If you would like to be more involved or
[42:06] know more about what those strategies
[42:09] are, contact the city and then here's
[42:11] the rest of the general plan.
[42:13] >> Yep. Join a committee.
[42:15] >> Yeah, join join a committee today.
[42:17] Please call. Yeah.
[42:19] >> Yeah. Exact. I think that would be
[42:21] fabulous.
[42:22] >> Okay.
[42:25] Then I feel clearer there on that.
[42:27] And then yeah, I I'm happy to work with
[42:30] you on just making this pretty the Excel
[42:32] spreadsheet and searchable and usable
[42:34] for the city. And that
[42:37] um thank you for all the effort so far
[42:40] though. I'm really happy to see these
[42:43] action steps. I feel like they make
[42:44] sense. They're measurable.
[42:47] >> Yes. Well, these are things that they
[42:49] talk about because every they have staff
[42:52] meeting once a week. We have council
[42:53] meeting twice a month and the staff give
[42:56] us a report and these will help direct
[42:58] them on what their reports will have so
[43:01] they'll be able to say you know this is
[43:03] what we're doing and it ties it all
[43:06] together.
[43:06] >> Yeah, this is great. Um, I would
[43:09] >> say Yeah, sorry.
[43:12] >> I was just gonna say only one other
[43:13] column I would add is just either a
[43:16] progress and or like a completion
[43:21] um with like a timestamp.
[43:23] >> Oh, yeah.
[43:24] >> Um,
[43:25] >> check mark box.
[43:26] >> Yeah, some sort of I don't know if we
[43:28] want to. Anyway, we can maybe talk about
[43:31] that. But,
[43:34] >> okay, since this is going to stay
[43:35] internal, do we want to have it more
[43:39] detailed? Do we want to have more
[43:42] potential more action items per land use
[43:46] or per um element general plan chapter
[43:50] or is three or so?
[43:53] >> I think that's up to whoever's. If Ted
[43:56] wants to add more, I would say he can.
[43:59] I don't know if I feel like I need to
[44:02] make that call.
[44:02] >> Yeah. I don't want to give Ted more
[44:04] work, but do we feel like this is
[44:06] sufficient for land use and housing? Is
[44:09] this
[44:10] >> Yeah, because land use and housing I
[44:12] mean planning commission meets every
[44:14] single month and they're continually
[44:16] working on updating that kind of thing.
[44:18] So it might be beneficial that you know
[44:22] when you talk to Wayne um to ask ask him
[44:25] what he feels the capabilities are
[44:28] because this is supposed to be for the
[44:29] next 3 to 5 years um of goals and you
[44:33] don't want them to run out of goals.
[44:37] So but as a living document they could
[44:39] always add more. Say check that one that
[44:42] says complete add a new.
[44:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. Or if any of them feel too
[44:46] broad, like if one of them feels like
[44:48] it's a constant ongoing thing,
[44:51] >> divide it up,
[44:52] >> then you'd want to define it a little
[44:54] more clearly. But that's again something
[44:55] that whoever the responsible party is,
[44:57] that's what they need to
[45:00] >> edit.
[45:02] >> So that's the benefit here of having a
[45:05] living document as opposed to a static
[45:06] document. We don't have to come up with
[45:08] all the goals now. But then if we're
[45:10] doing this as a living document where
[45:12] we're going to say, "Hey, periodically
[45:14] or, you know, maybe January of each
[45:15] year, we're going to review this and
[45:18] check things off and add things to it."
[45:20] We also probably want to put someone
[45:22] who's responsible and make to make sure
[45:23] that happens, right? So, I don't know if
[45:26] that's like a Jod or Lauren Lori to say,
[45:30] "Hey, each year I'm going to make sure,
[45:32] hey, add your stuff on there." Right?
[45:36] >> You I don't know.
[45:37] Do we propose that to the council of who
[45:40] then owns the responsibility of this?
[45:44] >> Yeah, maybe that's the mayor. But yeah,
[45:45] I I think so.
[45:47] >> We can write that down then. Who's
[45:48] responsible? Just so that it's in our
[45:50] notes.
[45:50] >> Yeah.
[45:51] >> Who's responsible for the document um um
[45:55] being updated? If it's Lori or Jod, it'd
[45:58] probably be Lori or Jod. I mean,
[46:00] realistically,
[46:04] » and maybe the two of them can only do it
[46:06] over lunch, so
[46:10] there we go.
[46:20] I like to that this being in Excel, if
[46:23] something does get changed, you can look
[46:26] at the history. Um, you can look at the
[46:29] history by sheet or by cell. So, you can
[46:32] see if somebody's made changes that
[46:34] maybe not everybody agreed on or that
[46:37] you weren't aware of or that you wanted
[46:39] to follow up on again progress or things
[46:41] like that, you could see changes live.
[46:45] >> Yeah.
[46:45] >> Or a record of the changes.
[46:53] Okay. Well, any other questions
[46:57] about this or any other comments on the
[47:00] way it looks or feels or usability of
[47:03] it? I'm excited actually. You know, I
[47:07] thought I was thinking of this earlier
[47:08] today when we first had the idea of
[47:10] putting in this grant to get this money
[47:13] and it's now been what, seven years, six
[47:16] years ago. It's almost like it was a
[47:18] whole another life of the city because
[47:20] it was before the fires. it was before a
[47:22] lot of things. Um, and I'm the only one
[47:25] currently on the council that was there
[47:27] at the time. And so just as it's
[47:30] progressed, right? And I'm just so
[47:32] excited to see this come to be. I can't
[47:35] tell you how much I appreciate all the
[47:37] work you guys have done because it's
[47:40] like having a little baby that you just
[47:42] say, "Here, would you guys take care of
[47:43] it?" And it's look, it's this really
[47:46] amazing plan and now we're going to have
[47:48] action steps and timeline. In my
[47:50] lifetime, I'm going to see some of this
[47:51] accomplished.
[47:54] >> I like it. Okay. Anybody else before me?
[47:57] >> What when's our next meeting? Did we
[47:59] decide that?
[47:59] >> Oh, good good question, Daniel. Um,
[48:07] how much I mean, I don't think we need a
[48:10] whole a whole ton of time, right, in
[48:12] between? You got to wait. We got to wait
[48:14] to hear back from the parks and trails.
[48:18] Mhm.
[48:18] >> Um, this is still kind of subject to any
[48:22] sort of goals that changed from the
[48:24] general plan. So, this is us providing
[48:26] our best first draft based on those
[48:30] potential changes. Is it is it do we
[48:34] feel comfortable
[48:36] finalizing this in a few weeks
[48:40] so that maybe we come up with a first
[48:43] draft final to pro provide to the
[48:45] council in May along with the general
[48:48] plan that will be provided in May.
[48:49] Should we wait till the general plan is
[48:52] or the no sorry that the planning
[48:54] commission is doing the public meeting
[48:57] in May not bringing it to the council in
[48:59] May.
[49:00] >> Yeah. What is the timeline here? So,
[49:02] planning commission is doing another um
[49:04] >> they have their public hearing town hall
[49:06] kind of thing.
[49:07] >> Yeah, it's in May.
[49:09] >> I just don't know what's I don't want to
[49:11] get ahead of anybody. So, but I also
[49:13] want to be responsive and get this
[49:15] forward. So,
[49:18] >> any comments on timeline?
[49:21] >> I don't think there's anything wrong
[49:22] with meeting again in a month and I
[49:25] should have everything in here. Kirsten
[49:27] and I can get with you beforehand. We
[49:29] can make this look nice. We can do all
[49:31] the things we talked about today and
[49:34] potentially be at a draft that we're
[49:38] ready to say, "Okay, barring major
[49:41] changes from planning commission, here's
[49:44] what we're ready to send over to council
[49:45] whenever the general plan goes to
[49:47] council." Right.
[49:49] >> Okay. I like that.
[49:50] >> I have it on my calendar that we're
[49:52] meeting the 27th of April, that Monday.
[49:56] >> Well, typically we've been doing the
[49:57] last Monday of the month. That is
[50:00] >> It' be the day before council meeting,
[50:02] so we to have an update to give.
[50:04] >> That'll be okay.
[50:05] >> It'll work.
[50:06] >> Yeah, it's my son's birthday, but we'll
[50:08] just go out after. We just have to end
[50:10] by 6. So, we'll do it. So, that'll be
[50:13] fine. We can So, we'll meet April 27th,
[50:18] 5:00 p.m. at the city. So, that gives
[50:20] Daniel, you and I a few weeks. It won't
[50:22] take that though to to get this pretty.
[50:25] But again, that gives you time though to
[50:27] get any other feedback from other
[50:29] committees or any other city employees
[50:32] that are you're waiting to hear back
[50:34] from. And
[50:36] >> probably the mayor, too. We might want
[50:38] to get him down on some of what his
[50:41] thoughts are.
[50:42] >> And you'll work on that strategic plan
[50:44] overview. Ideally, can that be
[50:47] circulated with our committee sooner so
[50:49] there could be any feedback
[50:51] >> so that we can then just approve it on
[50:54] the April meeting?
[50:56] >> Yeah,
[50:57] >> good idea. And ideally then maybe we
[51:01] have some completed things to finalize
[51:04] and approve in the April meeting so that
[51:07] then we can have them ready for council
[51:09] u potentially May or if we have to hold
[51:11] them to then accompany the general plan
[51:13] whenever that gets presented to the
[51:15] council then later but at least on our
[51:17] end we provided a finalized draft.
[51:21] Yeah. And we depending on how the bud
[51:24] how some things go, our schedules going
[51:26] to be our meeting schedules are going to
[51:28] be really full in May because we have to
[51:30] do the whole budget.
[51:32] >> And so, um,
[51:35] we've done a lot of the pre-work, but
[51:38] >> yeah,
[51:38] >> by law, we have to have things done in a
[51:40] certain order. So, that's our priority.
[51:42] So, some things may get bumped off,
[51:45] >> okay,
[51:45] >> of our discussion. Just to let you know.
[51:47] >> Yeah. I just want us to be prepared, but
[51:49] we'll be flexible depending on the best
[51:50] timing for
[51:52] >> Yeah. the when the the status of the
[51:55] general plan and what the city council
[51:57] wants. So, we'll be flexible, but we'll
[51:58] be prepared is what I'm hoping for.
[52:02] Okay. All right. Well, if there's no
[52:04] other comments,
[52:04] >> I make a motion that we adjourn.
[52:07] >> It is 54.
[52:10] Second that.
[52:12] >> Uh, all in favor?
[52:13] >> I I
[52:14] >> Oh, and you know what? I'm sorry.
[52:17] This is so terrible. Um, the meeting
[52:20] minutes you approved, you seconded. All
[52:24] in favor of approving our January minute
[52:26] minutes? I
[52:27] >> I
[52:29] >> Okay, so Sean, I will leave you off.
[52:32] We pass. Okay. Uh,
[52:37] okay. Sorry. Uh, meetings adjourned.
[52:39] 554. Thank you. I will type those.
[52:42] >> Thank you.
[52:44] >> I think some
[52:47] need just to clarify so many meetings I
[52:50] take a million notes because I cannot
[52:52] remember cannot no matter what I can
[52:55] talk to this
[52:57] >> I do that sometimes too
[53:02] we have to
[53:03] all of this is
[53:05] >> I know I do like the new system though
[53:08] >> there is
[53:12] do we have to do like the whole do I
[53:15] just click end
[53:24] Yeah,
[53:29] good.
[53:30] So down