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Okay. Uh we'll get started here and call

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the meeting to order. Oh, we being

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recorded right now.

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>> Yes, it's on.

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>> And first order of business, I would

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like to welcome Myers.

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>> Thank you, sir.

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>> To our committee. Thank you for your

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willingness to

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donate some of your precious time. So,

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thank you.

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>> Appreciate the opportunity.

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>> Got to be careful on our budget.

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>> We didn't have money to buy stiffness.

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>> Yes.

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>> Yeah. It's okay. Don't tell Jody.

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>> Well, maybe we can throw that in the

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budget to get some staples.

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>> Yeah.

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>> I'll donate some. I've got more staples

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lying around our house for the stapler

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that we hardly ever use.

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>> They're my nemesis staples. I spend all

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day pulling out staples so we can scan.

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>> Exactly. Yeah. There you go. Well,

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Janet, I think we'll just turn the time

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to you and let you kind of walk us

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through what you understand, realizing

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that you,

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>> you know, this is probably new for you,

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too. So,

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>> yeah. Um, so, first thing, if you look,

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there's two tabs at the very bottom. One

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is um the 2027 projection, and then

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there's a variable requests. So, what I

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just want to explain kind of what we're

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looking at first. So, what we're looking

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at right now, it's just a draft. This is

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not a final. We won't have a final till

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June. We're just getting started. We're

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just trying to figure out the numbers.

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Um, but the variable requests, what what

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the mayor did was he put up at the top,

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and you'll see it in this printed one,

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and it's the one that has the red on it,

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but initially he put up at the top how

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much we had to spend, and then all of

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the things that were needed, and we went

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through and prioritized and just started

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saying, "I want this, this, and this."

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and then we watch the money disappear.

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first thing we're going to do is look at

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um the hard costs. So that's what this

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is. So what these are are um the

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revenues. So you can see right here um

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in the beginning it's property taxes and

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stuff and it's a projected. So the far

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right right here, this is what is

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projected. But if you look um right here

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they went through and this is what we

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have in so far. So as of March

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>> so remind me

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>> those are the actual

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>> fiscal year is July to June.

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>> Yes.

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>> So when we say March we're 34 of the way

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>> Yep. And that's so you can see what's

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what is actual and then what is

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projected. Now um believe it or not I

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mean there are people that don't pay

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their property taxes and stuff. So and

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there are people that pay late so we get

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some late ones in. Um, but that's pretty

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self-explanatory. This is where all of

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our income comes from. So, you've got

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property taxes, motor vehicle fees,

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sales and use fees, transportation tax,

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franchise tax, and the telecom tax. Um,

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we have a we have a on the old water

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tower, we have not AT&T, not Verizon,

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T-Mobile.

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>> We get paid for that. We have a

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>> bullet tower

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>> tower up there. So, that's what that

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money is. That's telecom tax or that's

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>> that's a tax but we also get an income

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from that. There's just little random

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things that we get money from. Business

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licenses, residential building permits.

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anymore. We actually took that off. You

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can see we zeroed that out because we

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don't get that anymore.

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>> We haven't for years now it looks like.

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>> And we used to do the the animal

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shelter. we do the we just didn't get a

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good turnout where we would vaccinate

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them and license them.

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>> Are the fiscal year numbers the budgets

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from those years or the actuals?

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>> Uh those are the actuals.

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>> You mean 23 and 24?

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>> and 25 I guess.

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>> So when it says year-to- date spend when

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it's in the

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>> in revenue it's actually revenue.

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>> That's revenue.

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>> Yeah. But there revenue obviously

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categories are a lot smaller, right?

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So there's not as many of them. Um we

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get a class C road allocation. So if you

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look projected we'll get about $120,000.

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>> Will you show us with your mouse as

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you're describing things

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>> Do you know what that means, Janet?

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>> That's like gasoline tax or something.

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It comes from partly from the gasoline

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tax, but it's a state allocation that

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all municipalities get collected by the

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state and remitted. There are sometimes

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you can request additional, but I don't

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know whether we've requested any

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additional,

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>> but this is separate from the

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transportation tax shown above.

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it's additional.

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>> It's a special tax that Utah, it's been

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on the books for ever since I've been in

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a CPA. So,

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>> but is that coming from gas tax or is it

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coming from some other?

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>> Most of it's from gas tax. There's some

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that comes from excise tax on tires and

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other auto parts.

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>> The state gives allocates it to us.

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>> They all collected by the state and then

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allocate among all the municipalities in

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Utah.

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>> Okay.

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>> So, when we see the transportation tax,

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that's not all of the gas tax that's

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being paid at the pump. That's only some

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of it. Okay.

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>> And then it looks like a new one is a

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liquor fund aotment. So, we're going to

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get $1,000 for people.

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>> Oh, that's that's It bound me out.

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$1,000.

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>> Is that Is that just a state allocation,

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too, or

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>> I believe so. Yeah.

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>> We all need to ste start drinking more.

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>> No, that's passing out the sin tax

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dollars back to the local agencies to be

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able to deal with the problems in their

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community created by it.

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>> Right. This is so Mike can do more

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counseling for those people that have

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substance use disorders. There

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>> we go. Um, so then, uh, zoning and

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subdivision fees. We've got a few there.

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>> are we on expenses now?

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>> No, this is still revenue.

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>> Fuel revenue. And then fuel reduction.

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it's our wildland firefighter group that

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it's offset with costs, right? So, um I

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believe Ted said in city council they

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actually cleared about 105,000

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additional. Um but we're projecting that

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this year that it's going to be a high

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fire year and that they'll actually

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clear 150. They've already banned on two

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or three fires.

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>> It's just a sad thing to say. Yes, we're

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gonna make some good money this year.

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>> Just hope we don't burn.

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like, now I remember why I have it cuz I

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might be living in it. So, we'll just

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keep it for now. Um all right. So, then

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fiber revenue, miscellaneous services,

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city center rental, you know, not a

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whole lot there. park rental, not a

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>> Is the sanitation garbage fees, is that

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a pure pass through to the residents or

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is there some money that's made off it?

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>> It's a pass through. They tell us what

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we have to charge. Um and then interest

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earnings because we do have some money

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in savings. Okay. And then um proceeds

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from the sale of capital assets.

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proposed and approved is they're they

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have the old fire truck, the old extra

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fire truck, and they're going to sell

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that because they need a new ambulance.

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residential the one they don't use. The

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old one,

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had a call and they go to start the

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ambulance and it won't start

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>> and it's really old. Um it's I think 0 I

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don't remember what year 03 or something

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that they told us. So the plan is to

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sell that old fire truck and use those

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funds to buy an ambulance. So um that

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you'll that'll kind of off that'll

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offset that too. And then

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just all the other things.

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>> We'll get 150,000 for that old fire

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>> Yeah.

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>> Wow.

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>> And they're looking at about a hundred

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for an ambulance. So, we'll actually

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make a little bit of money off of the

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exchange. But don't worry, it'll get

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spent on a snow pal plow blade or

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something else that needs replaced.

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>> 1.4 4 million in um capital

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>> proceeds of bond issues, but I think

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that's a that might be a pass through.

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>> It must be a pass through because it's

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not showing up in the

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>> Yeah, I think it's a pass through.

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>> It's showing up in the totals.

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>> It does show up in the total, but then

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there's places where down below where

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it'll show it going back out. It shows

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everything coming in and then later it

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picks everything out, right? Um so down

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here is what the mayor wanted us to look

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at. Now, a couple of things. This was

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not suggested by us. Um, I actually

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wasn't going to run for reelection and I

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was going to push for it before I left

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and then I got talked into running

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again. So, I didn't. But Doral, who's

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left, is pushing for it and that's uh an

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increase in wages. So, I don't know if

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you know, but city council gets $84

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every two weeks and it just it doesn't

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even cover gas for the meetings that we

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have to go to. Um, so it's not a big

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raise. It's just um

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>> Is that yellow mark what you're

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proposing it go to or that

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>> that's what he wanted us to look at was

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the yellow. And what did he say about

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the blue?

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>> The blue is the additional over here.

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So, um this is what it is right now.

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It's 18.

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>> Oh, okay.

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>> And then he wants to do an an additional

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7200. He said what it would be would it

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would be an extra $100 a month for each

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council member and the mayor. Um, which

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again it just like it's just it's not

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even for our time. It's just um

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>> covers your costs.

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>> Not even really. Like I, you know, I'm

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over all the events and I I spend my own

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money and I use my own resources from my

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home and I use, you know what I mean?

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It's just it is what it is. You know,

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you just do like if something is needed

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and you have it, you just do it. You

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don't think about it. But anyway,

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>> so currently it's basically $2,000 per

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council member and $8,000 for the mayor,

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>> something like that,

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>> if I'm doing my math right.

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>> Yeah.

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>> N $7,000 for the mayor,

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>> which is crazy to think how much work

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Ben puts in for $7,000.

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>> He's here all the but he's, you know,

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we've had a lot of change and he's

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trying to kind of get that straightened

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out. And you know when uh Brent got in

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there was a lot of change too because

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that's when Corbett and Craig had all

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that change happened. So um anyway so he

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wanted to know your opinion on that how

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you feel about that.

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I think on the one hand, adding $7,200

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obviously is nearly a 50% increase, but

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it still doesn't even approach

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compensating for the time that public

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servants put in. But then again, they're

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not running to get on in order to make a

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wage out.

323
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>> Yeah. None of us did this for the

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paycheck. So the question is is is there

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enough money there to offset the cost so

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it's not costing you to be on to be a

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public servant because you have to spend

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your own personal money to go to all the

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meetings and

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>> probably have to 1099 that too for

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>> Mhm.

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>> Is it 1099 or W2?

333
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>> It's a W2.

334
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>> Um you know so you claim it. They take

335
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taxes out.

336
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>> There's FICA on there. So there's a

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contribution.

338
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>> Yeah. So

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anybody else any objections?

340
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>> That's such a controversial one.

341
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>> Small thing.

342
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>> It's such a small dollar amount, but

343
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>> but I realize it's controversial.

344
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>> At a $3.8 million spend, adding 7,200 to

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make it so they don't have to spend as

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much out of their own pocket.

347
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>> Well, and here's the other thing we went

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through. Remember that I said we have

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the other we went through the other and

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we had we don't now because he's but we

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had 35,000 left over that we did a lot

352
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to anything.

353
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>> Oh, good for you guys.

354
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>> And so he's he's pulling it out over

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here. He's saying, "Okay, we've got

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35,000 left. I'm going to make some

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suggestions in this blue of how to spend

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it."

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>> So what what do you think, Mike? What's

360
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your thoughts on that?

361
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everything everybody has said. It's it's

362
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not a ton of money out of the whole

363
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budget, but it's very controversial.

364
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I just wonder the impact on the

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community as a whole.

366
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>> I think my response to anybody who had a

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problem would say, well, then you run

368
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>> Yeah, exactly.

369
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>> for council and

370
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>> find out how much time it takes.

371
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>> Yeah.

372
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>> Now, I have no problem with it.

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>> I don't have a problem at all with that

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one. I obviously can't have an opinion.

375
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And you know, I kind of feel like if if

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it was something I voted on, I would

377
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abstain myself from it because

378
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>> I I'll say it this way. I also have

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other civic engagements that I do where

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I donate a whole lot of time to, an hour

381
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or two every day. But I'm willing to do

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my time, but I don't want my family's

383
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personal finance to have to suffer

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because of it. So, I like having enough

385
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money available that when I drive

386
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everywhere and buy food for the

387
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activities and things that I can get

388
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that reimbured.

389
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>> I served on a waterboard soldier Summit

390
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Water District for

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seven, six years, seven years, you know,

392
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and I never got done. And then all of a

393
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sudden, they did give us some money at

394
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least to cover our expenses. And so

395
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that's been nice and it makes you want

396
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to serve more.

397
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>> Yeah. Um

398
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>> because you're you don't have to outlay

399
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so much of your own money to take care

400
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of things.

401
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>> Well, and I you know and I remember

402
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something that like Bob Bob Ali told me

403
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when he was on because he was the one

404
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that talked me into running. But um he

405
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said, "Yeah, you get a little bit of

406
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money. It's not much of anything." And

407
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he said, "I just save it and use it to

408
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buy candy when I need to for Santa." And

409
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I've done that, too. You know what I

410
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mean? It's like he just he just kind of

411
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put it away in a savings account and

412
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then used it when it was needed. So it

413
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doesn't even necessarily go to us. It

414
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kind a lot of a lot of times the money

415
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goes right back into the city.

416
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>> So what's the total per council? 2,000

417
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>> currently. If I do 84 time 26 then I

418
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>> 7 seven for the mayor

419
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>> and and the remaining amount left out of

420
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18,000 was seven.

421
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>> No.

422
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So, what

423
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I

424
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>> I appreciate the comment. I'm wondering,

425
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and again, I'm just a new guy, so um

426
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what if the expenses

427
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were just expenses instead of wages?

428
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>> What do you mean reimburse?

429
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>> In other words, reimburse.

430
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>> Yes. Reimburse the expenses so that the

431
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community knows these are this is money

432
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out of pocket.

433
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>> Um Yeah. Well, like in two weeks, we're

434
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going to St. George and we pay for our

435
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own gas. We pay for our own meals. Like

436
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I don't think the city wants to

437
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reimburse that.

438
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>> I think it would be more then

439
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>> it would be a lot more.

440
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>> It'd be a lot more. Um they do there is

441
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a place in the budget for a little bit

442
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of council cuz we it's training. We go

443
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to St. George for two days and it's like

444
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seminars and it's gross. Like you sit in

445
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meetings from 8:00 in the morning till

446
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>> this is League of Cities and Towns.

447
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>> Yeah. the League of Cities and Towns and

448
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it's it's classes on water and

449
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government and how to stay out of jail

450
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and all the things and technology and

451
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all the things and um you kind of pick

452
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and choose. We we go based on what

453
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committees we're on and what we serve on

454
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and what we have.

455
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>> Sure.

456
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>> But we pay for all of that ourselves.

457
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But to Mike's point, if we did it and

458
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saying,

459
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>> "Yes,

460
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>> turn in your reimbursements

461
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>> and we've got a pot of money $7,200."

462
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>> We save on FICA.

463
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>> Yes.

464
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>> Because we're not paying increased taxes

465
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when we're doing reimbursements as

466
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opposed to paying wages.

467
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>> I'm like trying to decide if I want to

468
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put it on here or here. I will.

469
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>> What's the FICA on there again? 500

470
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52

471
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>> 550.

472
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He said I could write on this.

473
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>> Add that to the total amount you're

474
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getting reimbured.

475
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>> If we're if by converting it to

476
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reimbursement instead of wages, we save

477
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the FICA with the FIA in the total

478
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amount that's available for

479
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reimbursement.

480
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>> I'm going to make notes on here. It

481
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might be easier. I'm afraid I'm going to

482
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delete something.

483
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I can I'll give these to Ben, my notes,

484
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but

485
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I'm I'm making a note on here. He said,

486
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"Give me any notes that you guys have."

487
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Okay,

488
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>> that might be a consideration. And

489
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>> I'll ask I'll ask him about it and how

490
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>> be a win-win both ways.

491
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>> I mean, you could theoretically take all

492
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$18,000 out and say, "I don't get paid a

493
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dime. I get reimbursed for a fair amount

494
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of expenses, but I don't get paid a

495
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dime." And that would save us 1377 plus

496
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550 that we could convert into more

497
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money available for reimbursements

498
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rather than going out as employer

499
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payment.

500
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>> Yep. employer taxes.

501
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>> Although most communities get in in

502
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other communities, granted they're

503
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bigger, but city council members get

504
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like 1,200 a month or something.

505
00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:03,200
>> Yeah,

506
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>> they get, you know, quite a bit.

507
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>> So,

508
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um,

509
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>> well, are we trying to benchmark and

510
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match this industry standard?

511
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>> No.

512
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>> Or we just trying to do whatever makes

513
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the most sense for our small little

514
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city. And if we can save money and make

515
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more money available to compensate our

516
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public servants and quit sending it to

517
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the feds.

518
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>> Yeah, I get what you're saying.

519
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>> We could look at a couple of cities,

520
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,080
too. We could look at Elk Ridge and

521
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Mona and some of the smaller towns.

522
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>> There hasn't been a wage increase for

523
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council and mayor in like 12 years.

524
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But the but you know, the employees, I

525
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mean, they're employees and we have to

526
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give them wages. We're going to move.

527
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,280
Keep thinking about that, but we got to

528
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,760
keep going or we'll never get done. Um,

529
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,320
so admin wages and salaries. You can see

530
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where I am now. So, this shows Ted 50%

531
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of his wage. Jodie 100% of her wage.

532
00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:02,880
This is what comes out of the general.

533
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,200
Lori 30% of her wage. Some of hers comes

534
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,400
out of water and stuff. Uh Wayne, he

535
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,320
doesn't get he gets a little bit in code

536
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,320
enforcement like a stipen, but he

537
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,039
doesn't get a wage. And then Toby. So,

538
00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:16,480
those are and it shows you the

539
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,400
percentage you can see right there. Um,

540
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,960
and so Ben has um in the past they did

541
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,720
he explained this to me, but in the past

542
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,360
they would do like a 4% cost of living

543
00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:31,919
wage, but it wasn't really fair because

544
00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:36,799
somebody like Lori 4% was like $500.

545
00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:39,280
Um because and then somebody who got

546
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,000
paid more like a Ted or what Chris was

547
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,240
making, you know, it was a huge way

548
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,919
raise. So

549
00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:51,200
>> I'm not understanding though. We've got Jod at 100% and Ted at 50%.

550
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,280
>> Cuz 50% of it comes out of another fund.

551
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,360
>> What? Yeah. What fund it's in.

552
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,760
>> Yeah. So, so out of So, but overall, Ben

553
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,559
is proposing a 1% cost of living

554
00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:05,039
increase and a 2% performance increase

555
00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,880
for TED

556
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,880
and then a 6%. So, now that we don't

557
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,080
have Chris, we are hiring somebody.

558
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,000
>> Chris is no longer

559
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,120
>> He's been gone for a while.

560
00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:19,840
That's why I'm doing

561
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,720
>> a month or so, right?

562
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,520
>> Yeah, that's why I'm doing

563
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760
>> He's no longer engaged.

564
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080
>> I did not know that. Sorry. Yeah, we

565
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,919
didn't um we didn't like it was talked

566
00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:31,440
about in a city council meeting, but we

567
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,640
didn't like advertise it or anything. Um

568
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,720
but so they're taking on more duties.

569
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,280
There's a lot more of the bookkeeping

570
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,200
and stuff that's being done by staff. So

571
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,039
Lori and Jod are both getting raises

572
00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:46,880
because they're having to take on a

573
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,520
bigger portion of Chris's duties. And

574
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,919
honestly, Lori was already doing a lot

575
00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:54,240
of it because Chris was kind of spread a

576
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,559
little bit thin. Um, and so Lori was

577
00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,440
already doing a ton of it. Um, so that's

578
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,280
why

579
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,320
>> you can see the actual

580
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,080
>> reason for taking on additional duties.

581
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,120
Absolutely.

582
00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,120
>> And because what was the total spend on

583
00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:08,480
Chrissa?

584
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,559
>> Uh, he was he was I he was over 100.

585
00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:13,919
>> Yeah. 110 something.

586
00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:15,360
>> 110 112.

587
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:18,000
>> Okay. So, we're taking 110 and then

588
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,080
turning it into

589
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,280
>> $10,000.

590
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,320
>> Yeah.

591
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:22,880
>> Talk about

592
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,400
>> that's a good win.

593
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,840
>> Yeah, we will hire um

594
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,760
we are looking for we're hiring someone.

595
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,440
So, it's weird, but there, you know,

596
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,200
we're a municipality, so there's a lot

597
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,440
of reports that have to be filed on time

598
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,799
in a certain way, and um this last

599
00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:40,000
little while, we were getting a lot of

600
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,600
fines and different things because

601
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,919
things weren't being done timely and and

602
00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:47,200
so um so we're we're looking to hire

603
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,600
someone that's experienced with

604
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600
accounting with municipalities.

605
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,360
>> So, we're not just saving it. It's just

606
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:54,640
we currently don't have the position,

607
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,000
>> but it won't but we we're not going to

608
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,360
it's not going to be an employee. It's

609
00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,640
going to be somebody that does it for a

610
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,640
couple of cities and we're going to it

611
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,840
the wage will be really small like

612
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320
>> it like a like a contract. So it'll be

613
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,760
about a third of what we've been

614
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760
>> we're just outsourcing that requirement

615
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,120
to an accounting firm

616
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,640
>> and we'll still have we'll still have

617
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280
somebody to do our taxes but we'll have

618
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,880
somebody that just files all of our

619
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,200
reports and does our FICA and all those

620
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240
kinds of things. I I did give Ben a name

621
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,960
of individual that I work with right now

622
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520
on our water board and

623
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,159
>> Okay.

624
00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:29,280
>> Yeah. Because he was going to actually

625
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,799
reach out to both of you and ask both of

626
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,480
you if you knew somebody.

627
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,840
>> He's tremendous.

628
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,440
>> And he knew one person too.

629
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,720
>> Two years and it's flawless.

630
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,960
>> Did Squire do stuff like this?

631
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,159
>> We do payroll things if that that's part

632
00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:45,520
of the work. That's part of the work,

633
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,799
but we're we're looking for somebody

634
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,200
that has is, you know, has experience

635
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,000
with government

636
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,280
>> public reporting.

637
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,679
>> Yeah.

638
00:22:51,679 --> 00:22:53,440
>> Got a big governmental group, but I

639
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,880
don't think they get into the details.

640
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,159
They're mostly just auditors.

641
00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:01,520
>> All right. So, then I need to go back

642
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,000
over here.

643
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,919
>> So, I I'll just comment on the Rays

644
00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:09,120
formulas of doing colas plus performance

645
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,320
eval. I hate that system.

646
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720
I think colas are stupid.

647
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,000
I think you just come up with one

648
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,960
number, one percentage and just call it

649
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,360
what you want to call it. But if you're

650
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,000
trying to split the baby and call part

651
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,080
of it cost of living, then that needs to

652
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,640
be indexed against a a standard

653
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,559
benchmark

654
00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,520
um as opposed to

655
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,640
doing the these split things

656
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,679
and just say this is what we you know

657
00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:44,720
benchmark municipal wages over time

658
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,760
increase by x% or we do a salary survey

659
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240
every year and come up with the these

660
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,760
are market competitive rates and there

661
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,600
may some years where there's no raise

662
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,039
and there's other years where there's a

663
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,080
6% raise.

664
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,480
>> And I've recommended that actually to

665
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,720
the mayor that we do a salary review of

666
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,559
the city employees and

667
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,559
>> and I remember he did one a few years

668
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:07,200
ago.

669
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,480
>> Yeah. Uh what's his bucket?

670
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,600
Sever

671
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,520
>> Yeah. Came and did a fantastic

672
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,760
government because he was so familiar

673
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,360
with the federal government, all the

674
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,360
wage classifications.

675
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,840
>> Yeah. He did an awesome job on it. Um,

676
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,200
>> I thought he did it.

677
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,200
>> And I think that did a good job of

678
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520
saying this is the right classification,

679
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,360
but now keeping up with what's the

680
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,840
market rate for those positions, we just

681
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,799
need to know what

682
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:37,360
job to compare that against because you

683
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:38,880
can get all this data from the Bureau of

684
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,360
Labor Statistics.

685
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,440
>> Um, and just say we're going to

686
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,120
benchmark your raise. But I I like that

687
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:50,640
it's not just all cost of living and

688
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,480
we're just matching because if we've got

689
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,880
a stupendous Jodie that just is amazing,

690
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520
but we hire somebody else that's not

691
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,360
really that great, I want to be able to

692
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,240
give them more for performance

693
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,360
than just everybody gets the same 2%

694
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,679
raise per year because that's what the

695
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,960
benchmark is.

696
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,200
Oh,

697
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,039
>> that's smart.

698
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:15,520
Um,

699
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,720
>> I figured

700
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600
>> now I say that because I've got 250

701
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840
employees, so I can give the good ones a

702
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,919
good raise and the bad ones a small

703
00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:24,720
raise,

704
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,880
>> but when you've only got five and

705
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200
they're all good.

706
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,880
>> It's hard to say. We're saving it on the

707
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,279
bad one to give it to the good one.

708
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:37,039
Okay. So, this next section um is FICA,

709
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:38,640
retirement,

710
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,039
health insurance,

711
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,039
um

712
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,200
admin audit. We do we have an audit done

713
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,840
every year. Admin attorney.

714
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,960
>> Is the attorney fees appropriate for the

715
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,200
anticipated litigation costs?

716
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,440
>> Um

717
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,000
>> yeah.

718
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,919
>> Are we still in litigation?

719
00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,600
>> Yeah.

720
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480
The fugitives have filed a couple more

721
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,120
cases and then we have a couple people

722
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:05,600
threat. Is

723
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,440
>> that the one that was always been a

724
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,159
problem?

725
00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,799
>> Yeah, it's been going on for 10 years or

726
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:11,440
something now.

727
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,400
>> It's not 10, but it's not much less than

728
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:14,880
that.

729
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,919
>> Close.

730
00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:16,400
>> Um

731
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,080
>> cuz when we moved in, fugitives were

732
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,480
nice and happy and everything, but

733
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,400
>> then things soured a few years later.

734
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,039
>> I really like them. It's really sad. I

735
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:28,159
taught their kids in primary. Um Megan

736
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:32,159
and I were friends. Um so so yeah,

737
00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:35,440
probably it might it just depends. We

738
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,159
have someone else in the city that's

739
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:43,039
threatening. So we'll we'll see. Um

740
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:46,400
and then elections, that's we won't have

741
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,919
an election this year, so there's just

742
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:49,760
$100.

743
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,200
>> Go back up to what's the admin

744
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:51,840
professional services?

745
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,559
>> Yeah, what's the professional services?

746
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,760
>> I not 100% sure. I think that I'm sorry

747
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,880
that I Let's go look.

748
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,520
Um Oh, there's so 13,500 is for scanning

749
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240
of records that we approved in over

750
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,000
here. Um and then

751
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,480
>> old older records that have been

752
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,200
>> so if there's ever a fire that's all um

753
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,720
it's all the old stuff that's just on

754
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,360
paper.

755
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,000
>> Mhm.

756
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,159
>> And we're going to do it in chunks. So,

757
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:21,760
it was going to be a lot more than that,

758
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,440
but we decided we would do like a fourth

759
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,880
of it this, you know what I mean? We're

760
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,120
going to spread it out. And then also,

761
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,720
we have a contact contract for our IT

762
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,640
stuff like that. So, it's stuff like

763
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,000
that that we have contracts for. Um,

764
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240
>> but these are outside professional

765
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,919
services, not city. So, these are not

766
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:42,640
employees.

767
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,159
>> 13,500 scanning is again outside

768
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:47,279
company. We're just going to ship them

769
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:48,640
off to Iron Mountain and they're going

770
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,880
to

771
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,720
>> Yep. We're going to Yeah. And it is It's

772
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,960
going to the prison wherever that

773
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Anyway, they're going to do it. They do

774
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:54,960
it.

775
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,679
>> So, there's $76,000 in it.

776
00:27:57,679 --> 00:27:59,840
>> It's not just it. It's There's several

777
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,679
items. There's There's a whole bunch of

778
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:04,240
things that go into that. It is only

779
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000
a,000 a month, I think. So,

780
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,559
>> a whole bunch of things.

781
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:13,919
>> In my P&L, accounting is under admin

782
00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:15,760
professional services.

783
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Yeah,

784
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320
>> we probably want to look at that broken

785
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,399
out and know what it is, but

786
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:20,799
>> Yeah,

787
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:22,000
>> that's a lot of money.

788
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,960
>> Yeah.

789
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,559
>> Um,

790
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:29,679
utilities you got there and then,

791
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:32,240
uh,

792
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,159
>> the utilities seem to be up

793
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:35,919
significantly. Is that just because of

794
00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:38,720
rates or is that because of increased

795
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,720
usage?

796
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,799
>> Um,

797
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,600
I I think it's just rates. But look at

798
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,720
it's Yeah, because it's gone up from 43,

799
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,799
you know, uh natural gas and stuff is

800
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,440
out of this world right now.

801
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Uh with all this with the war and

802
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,799
everything going on. So I think they're

803
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,640
trying to anticipate

804
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,000
um and then also let's see traveling

805
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,520
that's what pays for our conference.

806
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,520
Let's see. And then admin book

807
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,440
subscriptions. That's like Polaris.

808
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840
Um, a couple subscriptions they have

809
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,080
like that. Supplies and expenses.

810
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,240
>> Wait a minute. That's It's hard to see

811
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,000
going across. The 60,000 is for

812
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,480
insurance and bonds.

813
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,919
>> Yeah, it's hard to

814
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:31,760
>> Right. It's a weird line because it goes

815
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,320
down.

816
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,120
>> Yeah.

817
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520
It's not stretched out. So the

818
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,200
travel conferences is only

819
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,919
>> 3,000.

820
00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:38,480
>> Mhm.

821
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,640
>> So again with the insurance that's a

822
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
significant increase from prior years.

823
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,600
>> Yeah.

824
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360
>> Um and in fact it's interesting how much

825
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,120
it's bouncing around for 4,000 then

826
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360
53,000 then 9,000 the 19.

827
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,960
>> Are we paying more because of our

828
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,279
lawsuits? Is that what we're doing?

829
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:58,080
>> I'm not sure. I'm sorry. We don't have

830
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,000
Chris anymore.

831
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,279
>> Well that's something that needs to be

832
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:05,200
explained. what 60,000 why it's so much

833
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,880
and why it's so much more than

834
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,039
historical.

835
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:09,840
>> Um

836
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,520
>> we spent quite a bit this year though in

837
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,559
that category.

838
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,000
>> Some of the stuff I just don't I don't

839
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440
know what goes into all of it and

840
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,440
Okay. So

841
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,000
I don't know what this principal sales

842
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,760
tax. It's only 690,000. We can go on

843
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,080
>> projected. I don't know what that is.

844
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,320
>> So, scroll over to that note. This could

845
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,039
be

846
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,360
>> go go go go away in 2027, but we won't

847
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,120
know until evaluation has been done on

848
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,320
the new bond.

849
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,360
>> So, that's the bond.

850
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,799
>> Is that the bond we Yeah,

851
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,399
>> I think that's the bond that we had that

852
00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:49,919
we've had and we've been paying on. We

853
00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:50,799
have a couple of them.

854
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:51,919
>> Yeah. Where are we doing a new

855
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:53,360
>> We looked at those, remember?

856
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,840
>> One for roads, one for water. We looked

857
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,039
at those and you know because you've

858
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,200
been here and so yeah I think that's

859
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,350
what we're paying on those.

860
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,480
» So is this saying let me just voice it.

861
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,640
We're getting a new bond up above and

862
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,720
we're retiring an old bond to the tune

863
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,279
of 690,000.

864
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,520
>> Yeah, I think that's what it means.

865
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,120
>> We haven't just we haven't done anything

866
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,440
on

867
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,200
>> I can swallow that if that's what's

868
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,039
happening.

869
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,840
>> Otherwise it doesn't make sense. Yeah,

870
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,000
>> because we had a bond revenue of

871
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,799
1.4 million. So if we're retiring

872
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,919
690,000 of that giving us a net increase

873
00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:34,399
of

874
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:37,039
>> now the 1.4

875
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,840
>> is if we take out the new bond and there

876
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,760
and it's it is being spent somewhere so

877
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,000
it's probably there

878
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,880
part of it.

879
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880
>> Yeah. Retiring the like Aaron said

880
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,120
retiring some of the old bonds and then

881
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,960
doing all the

882
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,279
>> we talked about rolling that We also

883
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:55,039
were taking money out of we've had money

884
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:56,799
in capital funds and we already this was

885
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:58,960
already decided long ago. We already

886
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,760
decided this previously, but we took all

887
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,039
the money out of some of the capital

888
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,240
funds and then out of the general fund

889
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,399
to pay for some of the roads projects so

890
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:10,880
we wouldn't have to finance them. Um we

891
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,640
did vote as a council to keep 250k in

892
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,960
the general fund savings. Um roads and

893
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,360
water are you know water fund is

894
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,080
different. It's its own thing, but just

895
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,360
for um we keep 250k in there for

896
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,880
emergencies.

897
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,640
So, and I'm sorry that I'm not Chris and

898
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,240
I don't have all the answers you guys

899
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,519
want. Sorry. Sorry.

900
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,840
>> J, I would say one thing from a public

901
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,640
transparency perspective. I think

902
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,640
anything that is five digits, let's say,

903
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,039
needs to be able to have an explanation

904
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,640
either when the question is asked or

905
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,279
have a note out to the side that says

906
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:50,880
what all these line items are.

907
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,159
>> Yeah. There are some notes. See, I'm

908
00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:53,279
sliding it over.

909
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,039
>> Yeah. But there's a lot that you don't

910
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,440
know. And when it's a not just a

911
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,919
fivedigit, but a six figure number

912
00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:01,440
especially, there needs to be an

913
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,760
explanation of what that is.

914
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,600
>> And honestly, that's something we've

915
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,279
never had and we've asked for all the

916
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,600
time. And so, I think some of it, yes, I

917
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,000
agree.

918
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,440
>> And and in the old days, it may have

919
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,120
been that's because we had Chris and he

920
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,640
could just rattle it off.

921
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
>> But if we don't have Chris, then we need

922
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,640
to have it on paper. And it's better to

923
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,039
have it on paper so people can refer

924
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,240
back to going, I can't remember what

925
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,039
Chris said.

926
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:24,240
>> Even with Chris, it would have been

927
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,919
great to have that the notes down.

928
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,960
>> I I think that's really wise what Aaron

929
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,279
just said on that

930
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,880
>> is have explanations on on anything over

931
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,760
>> what' you say?

932
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,760
>> I'm saying five figures. Anything over

933
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,159
10,000

934
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:42,000
>> over 10,000 or more.

935
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,039
>> Okay. And then maybe anything related to

936
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,159
wages just because wages are stupidly so

937
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:50,399
controversial.

938
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:53,120
I guess staff wages, they're going to be

939
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,279
in the five figures. It's the council

940
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,440
wages that are not, but those are the

941
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,120
most controversial ones even though

942
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,039
they're the least expensive ones.

943
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,120
>> And you know my because I get that in my

944
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440
job a lot. I get beat up over like

945
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
getting paid for what I do. And I just

946
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,040
have to look at people and go, "Do you

947
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,240
love what you do?" And they, "Oh yeah,

948
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,000
no, no, no, no. Tell me what you do. Do

949
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,159
you love it? Yeah. Well, will you do it

950
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,159
for free? You know what I mean? It's

951
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,919
like

952
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:22,240
people's time is valuable. Sorry. Um

953
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,800
inspection wages, all of this. There's a

954
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,200
lot.

955
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,720
>> What's the plan review? There were notes

956
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:28,159
out to the right of that one. That

957
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,599
17,000.

958
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:33,760
>> Um yes, let me scoot over.

959
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,399
Sunrise inspections

960
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:38,639
says it should probably be renamed. If

961
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,480
you want to reduce that just a little

962
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,079
bit on the view, you might be able to

963
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,440
see that. Yeah, that's that's probably

964
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,720
too much. But

965
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:56,869
>> I know I'm like, hold on.

966
00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:57,920
» Maybe just a hair more.

967
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,000
>> I can I can now scroll back to the left

968
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
and see how much

969
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,200
>> how much we can see.

970
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,800
>> You can type a number in there, too.

971
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Like if you wanted to do

972
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,560
>> Yeah.

973
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,720
>> 60%. See, that's that's readable for me

974
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,320
if it's not for you guys.

975
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,000
>> Okay, that'll make it easier for me cuz

976
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,599
it's hard going back and forth. I feel

977
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:14,160
like I'm

978
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,800
>> absolutely

979
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,400
>> getting lost. So, let me scroll back

980
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,560
down. We just you guys we will be here

981
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,160
for 6 hours if we keep going at this

982
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,720
slow pace. I'm sorry. And most of these

983
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,520
are not negotiable. Most a lot of these

984
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,599
are hard costs. So, it's not anything

985
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:28,800
that we can change.

986
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960
>> We're in the fixed cost area right now.

987
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000
>> Yes, we're in the fixed. So, fire wages,

988
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,920
those are fixed. you know, this is

989
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,680
retirement.

990
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Um, you've got

991
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,000
fire equipment supplies. This has all

992
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,119
been approved. Fire training, fire

993
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,520
discretionary fund is only $1,000 and

994
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,800
that's usually for the fireman's

995
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,000
appreciation dinner.

996
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,480
>> Janet, in column H, what is the

997
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640
difference between yellow and blue and

998
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,200
white for that matter?

999
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,520
>> Um, he said something about that that

1000
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,200
J. Can you remember what he said

1001
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,880
>> in your I don't know. Can you open your

1002
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,000
email and tell me?

1003
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,920
>> I can do that.

1004
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,280
>> And and specifically our task tonight is

1005
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,240
to focus on column I. I mean you're It

1006
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,640
sounds like you're saying quit asking me

1007
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,640
about everything in column H. I only

1008
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,680
want you to look at column I.

1009
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,839
>> I just want to know what our role

1010
00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:27,599
>> but No, I'm saying look how many pages

1011
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,320
we have to go through. I know. And then

1012
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,240
we have to go through all of this, too.

1013
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,800
That's all I'm saying.

1014
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,599
Um,

1015
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,960
so code enforcement officer, where are

1016
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,040
you good? Do you want me to go back up?

1017
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,710
Am I going too fast? You tell me.

1018
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,520
» So, inspection wages.

1019
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,119
Um, that's Chris Chris Tambasco. He does

1020
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,680
building inspections for us now. So,

1021
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,839
it's not a regular city employee. He is,

1022
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:02,160
you know, he's a contractor. He's he

1023
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,359
does inspections. So,

1024
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:06,000
>> is he employed by Sunrise or is he doing

1025
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160
this as as his own consulting business?

1026
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,520
>> As his own consulting.

1027
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,880
>> Okay.

1028
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,320
>> Um, so FICA, all the things there.

1029
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,760
>> Anybody I trust.

1030
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,680
>> I know. Plan review. Um,

1031
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,359
that was the inspections. We talked

1032
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:23,440
about that. Subscriptions.

1033
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,079
>> Sorry. You said Chris is a contractor.

1034
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:26,560
>> Yeah.

1035
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,599
>> Timbascope.

1036
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:28,400
>> Yeah, he's a

1037
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880
>> he's not currently building though,

1038
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,280
>> right? I'm trying to figure out.

1039
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,910
>> He does inspires.

1040
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,240
» He's not a He's not employed by the city

1041
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,560
as a contractor. He does He is a

1042
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,320
contractor. So, he knows how to do

1043
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,240
>> Oh, I see. But building inspections,

1044
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:47,440
>> we're paying We're not paying him as a

1045
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,800
city employee or are we?

1046
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,119
>> We pay him to do inspections and it he's

1047
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,040
by inspection per inspection. He doesn't

1048
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,960
get a flat fee or anything like that. He

1049
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,520
gets paid based on for doing

1050
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560
>> as wages though or as subcontractor. Uh,

1051
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,079
I think he's a sub.

1052
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,160
>> That's what I'm getting. Sorry.

1053
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,560
>> But the note says Chris Tambasco wages

1054
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,680
and insurance.

1055
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,920
>> I think the insurance though is probably

1056
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,240
>> like like a liability insurance

1057
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,520
>> but it's listed on account 4190 which is

1058
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,800
inspection wages as opposed to outside

1059
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,240
professional services.

1060
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:20,800
>> Right.

1061
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,400
>> And it also says building FICA.

1062
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,720
>> Go in on Woodland Hills. Well, but

1063
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,000
funnily enough is there's no

1064
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880
>> bike to get on the internet on Woodland

1065
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,480
Hill. It's WH.

1066
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
>> Oh, it got changed.

1067
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,560
>> Or is it Woodland Hills office?

1068
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,640
>> So,

1069
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,599
it says enter the network

1070
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:42,560
2026.

1071
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,599
>> It may be that it's appropriate. It it

1072
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,760
he is in some information changed since

1073
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,200
the last time you connected.

1074
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,400
>> I know. I'm trying to pull it up. Hold

1075
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,640
on.

1076
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,320
>> And it used to be that we had

1077
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,000
>> because somebody hacked it. We used to

1078
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
have Corbett doing it and some of

1079
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Corbett's wages were applied to

1080
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040
>> but now it's all being paid to an

1081
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,960
outside entity and that's why there is

1082
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,359
no taxes, health insurance or retirement

1083
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:07,599
associated with

1084
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,920
>> I can't join either.

1085
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,640
>> But there's

1086
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,839
>> I can't join either.

1087
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:15,040
>> There's plan review sunrise inspections.

1088
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,280
>> I it won't join. It's spinning.

1089
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,280
>> But that's different than inspection

1090
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,599
wages. Then

1091
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:22,960
>> get on this.

1092
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,000
>> What?

1093
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000
>> I'm on the office one here, but that's a

1094
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,320
secure one. I can't.

1095
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,079
>> Janet, do you know why there's both

1096
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:33,119
inspection wages and plan review of

1097
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:34,240
17,000?

1098
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:37,839
>> The plan review is for the general plan.

1099
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:40,079
And we have

1100
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:41,520
um

1101
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,280
>> and I see the note this should be

1102
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,280
renamed as building inspection

1103
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,040
consultant.

1104
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,320
So, it it appears to me without anybody

1105
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,920
to explain it that we've got two

1106
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,599
different line items for the exact same

1107
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:54,000
thing.

1108
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,160
>> No, we've got Sunrise Engineering. They

1109
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
review building plans when people submit

1110
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,240
them for subdivisions and homes. Chris

1111
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,640
Tambasco goes out and physically

1112
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,520
inspects.

1113
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,400
>> Got it. Plan review versus

1114
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,160
>> construction site review.

1115
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,160
>> Yeah. Chris Tabasco goes out and make

1116
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,000
sure they're doing what's on the plans,

1117
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480
that they're following those.

1118
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,599
Um, ordinance enforcement officer,

1119
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,349
that is Wayne.

1120
00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:24,400
Um,

1121
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,040
>> he earns every penny

1122
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,079
dealing with

1123
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,079
>> some of the stuff. He just shakes looks

1124
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:31,920
at us and shakes his head and says, "I

1125
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,320
do not want to do that." I loved his

1126
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,880
article in the newsletter, not this

1127
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,480
month, but last month, when he said,

1128
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,480
"Quit whining about people using their

1129
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,079
air brakes and just be glad that they

1130
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,760
didn't crash into somebody on the way

1131
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,200
down."

1132
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,359
>> Oh, I know. And then we had a big crash

1133
00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:48,720
down at the bottom of the hill the other

1134
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,640
day. The road was closed for a long

1135
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:50,960
time.

1136
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,839
>> Mhm.

1137
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:53,839
>> Uh and then somebody hit an elk

1138
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:55,839
yesterday and killed an elk. Made me

1139
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:56,480
really sad.

1140
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,200
>> Where was that?

1141
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,839
>> That's why I posted what I did. A ride

1142
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:02,000
at the roundabout. And so I suggested

1143
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400
today, I drove down today and I it looks

1144
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,880
like uh kind of the road to the salt

1145
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,720
shed and because it's right through

1146
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,880
there, it looks like that may become a

1147
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,720
thorough fair for the elk to kind of go

1148
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,280
across and go into the fields. And so I

1149
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,200
said maybe we need one of I suggested to

1150
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Ted today that we need an animal

1151
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,960
crossing sign there. And maybe not even

1152
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,480
so much for residents, but for all the

1153
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,160
con the construction workers and staff

1154
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,599
that are coming in and out of the city

1155
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,599
and people like that. Probably won't

1156
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:29,520
make any difference. There's animal

1157
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,280
crossings all the way up and down.

1158
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,480
>> I know. Every road.

1159
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,160
>> I I said maybe it needs to say at the

1160
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,240
bottom throughout the whole city or

1161
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,280
something.

1162
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:37,760
>> Um

1163
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,079
>> that's what I tell my family.

1164
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,280
>> Wildlife.

1165
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,880
>> Okay. Police services.

1166
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,560
>> You want me to read this to you? What he

1167
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,000
wanted us to focus on?

1168
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,800
>> The yellow.

1169
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,720
>> Mike, what I would love the finance

1170
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,640
committee to focus on would be the

1171
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,359
column in blue and the accompanying

1172
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:58,160
notes in blue on the first tab. And then

1173
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,760
a review of second tab. I've broken the

1174
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,119
budget.

1175
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,920
>> Help me see that again. Column I, the

1176
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,520
entire column is blue. So,

1177
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,599
>> yeah, but there's nothing in it.

1178
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:10,960
>> There is in some areas. But then what

1179
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,720
was the second thing? The column in blue

1180
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,119
and the accompanying notes in blue.

1181
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:16,079
>> Yeah.

1182
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:17,599
>> The accompanying notes out. He wants us

1183
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:19,839
to review those notes that are in there.

1184
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:21,839
>> Okay. And that's was the wages. That's

1185
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:25,920
what we did. But like see there on row

1186
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,359
93 I think it is there's a number.

1187
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:32,400
>> Oh and there and then there is a note in

1188
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,520
blue for us to review.

1189
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:35,920
>> Yep.

1190
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,680
>> So while I appreciate that Janet you've

1191
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,960
been willing to the second tab over. Is

1192
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,040
that what he's saying or is that is that

1193
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,200
>> the request tab down here at the bottom?

1194
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:45,920
>> This the blue.

1195
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,720
>> Okay.

1196
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,240
>> Yeah. We'll do the variable in a minute.

1197
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:49,839
>> If you want to just ignore going through

1198
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:51,520
the whole budget with us and say our

1199
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,440
task is just to review. Yeah, that's

1200
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,079
fine with me.

1201
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:56,000
>> Column I where there's a number and then

1202
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,760
look at the appropriate note

1203
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,200
>> and yeah and this was the employee

1204
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,480
wages. We talked about that.

1205
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,760
>> We already talked about that.

1206
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,400
>> Okay.

1207
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,680
>> He said the first tab is basically the

1208
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,760
old budget which you are familiar with

1209
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,319
is mostly the fixed cost. I'm defining

1210
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:12,960
fixed cost for the sake of this exercise

1211
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,520
as the cost that we are already

1212
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,400
obligated to pay. The second tab is what

1213
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,079
I'm calling variable costs.

1214
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:21,680
>> Yep. We'll go through that. when he

1215
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,119
said, "Jenn, you know that one well."

1216
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:24,400
And I do know that one better. He

1217
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,160
actually didn't go over any of this with

1218
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,960
us

1219
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,480
>> because this was we already knew this

1220
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,040
part, right?

1221
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,760
>> So, it sounds like the council has is

1222
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,240
pretty pro the var the variable.

1223
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,079
>> We went through it a lot. It was a

1224
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,760
couple of hours. Okay. So, operating

1225
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,720
expense is the next blue section. Um,

1226
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:41,760
and it's just more

1227
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,040
>> You're in a different fund now, aren't

1228
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,319
you're enterprise fund?

1229
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:45,599
>> Mhm.

1230
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,280
>> Yes, I am.

1231
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,119
>> Okay. So, sorry.

1232
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,760
>> Okay. I'll get out of this.

1233
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,680
Thank you for doing that. That saves us

1234
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,319
some time.

1235
00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:55,280
>> Yeah.

1236
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,000
>> Um,

1237
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,359
>> so on paper we are on

1238
00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:00,960
>> there's a black solid line.

1239
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960
>> That's the last page

1240
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,480
back side.

1241
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,720
>> Oh yeah, just right there cuz I scrolled

1242
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,359
down to the next blue section. So this

1243
00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:12,240
is the the rest of the wages.

1244
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,040
Remember how 50% of Lorie's was in the

1245
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,319
other one.

1246
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,880
>> So here's the other 50%.

1247
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,200
>> And the same with copy doesn't match

1248
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,280
what's on the screen.

1249
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,640
>> Looking first.

1250
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960
>> I think this is the most updated cuz he

1251
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,760
went and added

1252
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,119
>> I know. I'm just saying Mike don't

1253
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:30,560
bother looking there because you're

1254
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,319
>> Well, some of it didn't print.

1255
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,079
>> Mine matches.

1256
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:34,720
>> I don't have

1257
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,240
>> What number are we on?

1258
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,520
>> What? Well, they're not numbered. The

1259
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,720
pictures aren't numbered. But

1260
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:39,760
>> No, I meant

1261
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,800
>> 6110.

1262
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,680
>> It's It's actually right here.

1263
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,560
Look at me.

1264
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,119
>> But the notes on there and the blue

1265
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,359
boxes. Yeah, those don't print out

1266
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:50,319
>> the notes cut off.

1267
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:51,760
>> I'm just trying to track the numbers at

1268
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,720
this point

1269
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,599
>> right here. Operating expense.

1270
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:56,640
>> Okay, thank you.

1271
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,000
>> 6110.

1272
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,079
>> So, this is where the other 50% of Ted's

1273
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:04,800
wage comes from and the other 50%.

1274
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,319
>> So, help us understand where it's

1275
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:08,960
showing 30, 40, 20. Is that in prior

1276
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,040
years? That's what percent was being

1277
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,560
allocated to those funds?

1278
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,960
>> Yes.

1279
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,319
They're trying to simplify it. Do you

1280
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:20,720
remember how before everyone said they

1281
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,640
felt like wages were kind of a shell

1282
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,400
game and nobody could figure out what

1283
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,839
people were paid?

1284
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:27,440
>> It was being split amongst so many

1285
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,520
different buckets. Now it's basically

1286
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,119
either 100% one or 50/50. But that's

1287
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,440
>> they're trying to simplify it.

1288
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,480
>> Okay.

1289
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,560
>> Make it more transparent. They want to

1290
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,480
be more transparent.

1291
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,000
>> He's at 156,000 right now.

1292
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,200
>> Ted.

1293
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,640
>> Yeah. And he wears a lot of hats. Some

1294
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,319
of that is for fire, but most of it is

1295
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:50,800
for

1296
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,480
the city.

1297
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,390
Um, and then

1298
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560
other expenses,

1299
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,880
leaving us in blue, it's just the FICA

1300
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,000
again.

1301
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,760
>> Yeah. But to me, like all he really

1302
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,000
wanted to look at was the wage increases

1303
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,720
>> so far.

1304
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,520
Um, yep.

1305
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,280
>> That's everything that he want. It's in

1306
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,319
that blue column.

1307
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:16,319
>> It's all just the blue. Okay. So, we'll

1308
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,480
go to the variables. So, this is where

1309
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,520
it gets fun.

1310
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,240
>> So, so I don't know if we if we need to

1311
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,240
give him uh some kind of feedback, but I

1312
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:27,920
don't have any issue with those wage

1313
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400
increases on any of the either the

1314
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,880
council wages. Now, we Erin's point

1315
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,280
about possibly converting the wages to

1316
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,640
reimbured expenses.

1317
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,280
>> I wrote that down

1318
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,400
>> as a merit.

1319
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,880
>> Mhm.

1320
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,119
>> But on on the increases for the other

1321
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:42,800
people, I don't have any issue with that

1322
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,000
at all.

1323
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,599
>> And I wrote all that down. So, I'll

1324
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:46,640
report that back to him.

1325
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,319
>> I just eventually want to do a salary

1326
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:49,119
study.

1327
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,319
>> Yeah. The formula for salary increases

1328
00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:54,079
could be improved over the current

1329
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:55,520
format.

1330
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,000
>> Okay.

1331
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,440
>> I just want to make sure that we're

1332
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,640
paying our people what other

1333
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,119
institutions are paying them and and

1334
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:06,560
>> you should know that the other cities

1335
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,440
call and try to hire a blaze away.

1336
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,000
>> Yeah.

1337
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,040
>> All the time. In fact, uh, Elkridge also

1338
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,640
does not have a finance director at the

1339
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,319
moment. So,

1340
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:17,599
>> Chris doing them too.

1341
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,720
>> No, but they also, uh, lost theirs and

1342
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,640
so they they said if you find one, let

1343
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,119
us know because if it's somebody that's

1344
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,040
just doing for three or four cities,

1345
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,560
maybe they would have the capacity

1346
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,200
>> time.

1347
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,280
>> Mhm.

1348
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,359
>> So, was Chris's termination voluntary on

1349
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:38,319
his part or involuntary?

1350
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:40,880
Uh because that's an employee. It's I

1351
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,520
can't say.

1352
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,550
>> Okay.

1353
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,800
» And I think this is that other tab,

1354
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,440
right?

1355
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,240
>> Yep.

1356
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,280
So this is the other tab. So again,

1357
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,119
this we went through and we So initially

1358
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:58,400
these were all

1359
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,640
uh the amounts. He did it so that it had

1360
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,319
an amount at the top and then we went

1361
00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:04,640
through and approved things. Approved.

1362
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,119
I'm going to do the the mayor's and then

1363
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:08,560
we're going to skip the purple Jodie

1364
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,079
because there's a lot in there and I'll

1365
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,400
come back to that. But we'll start with

1366
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,920
the mayor um council travel. There's uh

1367
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,839
like Carrie is the representative for

1368
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:22,720
the ULC, whatever it is, UCL, whatever

1369
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:23,599
it is,

1370
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,280
>> Utah League of Cities and Towns. I have

1371
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,800
to say it that way. I can't remember the

1372
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,240
anacronym, but um there's there's um

1373
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,079
there's another one that she goes to and

1374
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:34,800
she pays all of her own travel expenses.

1375
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Um and then there's one that Jod has to

1376
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,880
go to for the city recorder. It's a

1377
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,359
training um and that hasn't always been

1378
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,839
covered. And so he's he wanted to

1379
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:45,599
increase it just a little bit to help

1380
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,200
cover their expenses that they're

1381
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,079
already paying.

1382
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:49,280
>> I think that's fine.

1383
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,760
>> Is that So is that$7,000 the total or is

1384
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,160
that

1385
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,200
>> That's the total.

1386
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,599
>> Okay. And this is just this year's

1387
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,359
budget, but it doesn't tell us how much

1388
00:48:57,359 --> 00:48:59,040
was in prior years.

1389
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,200
>> No, this is the wish list. This is with

1390
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,880
what was left over in the budget. The

1391
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,000
wish list. So then a thousand for mayor.

1392
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,440
>> But before we dive into the details,

1393
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,520
help us understand

1394
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,400
we we built all the revenues and we

1395
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,640
built all of the fixed costs and said

1396
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,440
this is how much is left in fixed costs

1397
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,000
and this is where we've spread our

1398
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
variable expenses. This is every year

1399
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,920
the the all the employees present to the

1400
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,000
council what they want and what they

1401
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,559
need,

1402
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:28,960
>> right?

1403
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,559
>> And that's what these are.

1404
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:33,040
>> We used to divide that up in the in the

1405
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,000
committee and each of us take a section

1406
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,880
of that.

1407
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,720
>> Yep.

1408
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:39,839
And so that's what this is.

1409
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:42,000
>> I worked with Corbett on his budgeting

1410
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,440
every every year for several months. So,

1411
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,119
this is uh and the mayor expenses and

1412
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,280
like the council discretionary, just so

1413
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,440
you know, like when people are no longer

1414
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,200
on council or if they've served on a

1415
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,640
committee for a long time and they quit,

1416
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,559
we give them a plaque and we you know

1417
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,920
what I mean? Uh Doral got a flag, you

1418
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,400
know? So, these $500, that's what these

1419
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,599
small things go for.

1420
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:08,880
>> I think that's great.

1421
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,760
>> Okay, so then I'm gonna skip Jod for a

1422
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,040
minute. Uh Wayne, for the planning

1423
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,839
commission, they have $1,000

1424
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,920
uh that they can use. I'm not sure what

1425
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,559
they use it for. Maybe they have a

1426
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,079
dinner once a year or you know what I

1427
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,319
mean? Something. I don't even know. But

1428
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:27,520
that's what they're that's what's in

1429
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,119
their budget. Um for the building,

1430
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,599
there's tools, books, dues, and

1431
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:36,400
subscriptions. Um you can see county

1432
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,480
recorder fees. Adobe. They have to pay

1433
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,839
for Adobe.

1434
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:43,440
>> Yeah. So that's the 1500.

1435
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Obviously we approved all of those

1436
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,680
first.

1437
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,280
Um we went to fire and if you look on

1438
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
the far right there's a one two three.

1439
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,559
So Ted prioritized those on which what

1440
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:59,760
was the most important to him. Um they

1441
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,880
were supposed to kind of do like a one

1442
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,559
two three one two three but he kind he

1443
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,119
did one through nine there. But um

1444
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:08,640
anyway, so replace outdated structural

1445
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,160
PPE and he's just doing three sets.

1446
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,000
They're not doing all of them. They just

1447
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,160
every year they try to do two or three.

1448
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,319
And Mike would know this well, but they

1449
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:20,880
try to do a few every year and rotate

1450
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,200
them so that hopefully they're not all

1451
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,440
10 years old or 20 years old or I guess

1452
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,160
it however long it is at the same time.

1453
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,880
It surprises me that uniform gear takes

1454
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,079
priority over these other things which

1455
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,440
in my thought seem to be more

1456
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,400
>> no

1457
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,680
>> protective equipment.

1458
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,160
>> No, the uniform gear, the fire the pants

1459
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,480
they wear off the fire.

1460
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,640
>> This says shirts, hats, and gloves.

1461
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,640
>> Yeah, they're fire retardant shirts and

1462
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,800
fire retardant gloves and they their

1463
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,720
helmets wear out and don't look good

1464
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:54,720
anymore after so many years. This is not

1465
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,800
the stuff we see them wearing around

1466
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,720
t-shirts and jackets.

1467
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,400
>> No, this is firefighting gear.

1468
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:00,800
>> Okay.

1469
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,000
>> Yep.

1470
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,319
>> These are their shirts and their like

1471
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:07,119
Rachel I I remember I this really struck

1472
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:08,720
me. It was when I was brand new, but at

1473
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,559
one of the fireman appreciation dinners,

1474
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:13,680
Rachel Skinner got up and said that her

1475
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,000
helmet was 12 years old and it was long

1476
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,720
beyond expired and probably not safe for

1477
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:19,839
her to be wearing. She probably

1478
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:21,520
shouldn't go into a fire.

1479
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,480
>> What they use a thermal camera for? Mike

1480
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,160
>> determining if there's hot spots after

1481
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,520
burn truck

1482
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,280
>> after a burn. You just walk around with

1483
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,480
it and see if there's still something

1484
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,760
burning underneath the brush or

1485
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,960
underneath a rock or

1486
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,680
>> hot spots.

1487
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,800
>> Yep.

1488
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,800
>> So, we we approved everything in here.

1489
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,280
There wasn't anything that Ted asked for

1490
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,720
that we didn't approve, but I'm going to

1491
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:42,160
tell you that he didn't ask for anything

1492
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,200
extravagant.

1493
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,400
>> No, he didn't.

1494
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520
>> Um, like I say, only three sets of uh

1495
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,240
PPE, you know, so he he didn't he didn't

1496
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:56,079
go anything crazy. So, um, yeah,

1497
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:57,680
you can just I'm just kind of scrolling

1498
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,920
if you have a question on something.

1499
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,240
>> Still paying for catering, gifts, etc.

1500
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:06,240
This year, they did see where Okay.

1501
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,720
>> Yeah. Firefighter appreciation. And, you

1502
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:09,839
know, they used to have it somewhere

1503
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:11,440
else, but to save money, they now have

1504
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,040
it at the city center. Um, they used to

1505
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,480
where they would go, they'd have to pay

1506
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,760
for the meal, and it was a little bit

1507
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,319
more expensive. And now we have an old a

1508
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:22,079
restaurant that's out in it's out in

1509
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,960
tinik Eureka um that they do some

1510
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,680
catering so they do it. So it's a little

1511
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,559
bit cheaper.

1512
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:33,280
I've had two of my kids call me now. Um

1513
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,800
and then

1514
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,319
>> I was going to say, isn't one of them on

1515
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:37,680
a mission? Oh, wait. No, those are your

1516
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,720
older kids.

1517
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:40,400
>> Yeah. Yeah, I've got I've got lots of

1518
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,280
other kids. Um fire equipment repairs,

1519
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,839
maintenance. It says this is for

1520
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:48,160
emergency vehicle repairs and they have

1521
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,240
a lot of Well, it's crazy.

1522
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,079
>> I thought we got leases to eliminate the

1523
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:52,800
repairs.

1524
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,800
>> We did, but we still have a couple of

1525
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,079
old trucks that we own.

1526
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:56,960
>> Okay.

1527
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,079
>> Um and

1528
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:03,599
so like the old wire the wildland truck,

1529
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:05,760
the fire the wildland crew truck, we own

1530
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,720
that one. It's not on a lease.

1531
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:12,000
>> And then fuel reduction.

1532
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,599
Um,

1533
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,720
just PPE for new wildland firefighters,

1534
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,839
hand tools, new hose.

1535
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:22,240
Again, there was nothing.

1536
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,800
Now, this the the

1537
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,040
uh this all is paid for. This is

1538
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,079
covered. Remember how I we had the 150

1539
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:31,839
income?

1540
00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:33,920
This is all covered.

1541
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,559
So the travel, the lodging when they

1542
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:39,040
drive to a fire, they they have to pay

1543
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,680
for a hotel room, you know, on along the

1544
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,680
way. So that stuff is covered. They they

1545
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,200
earn it back. Um and then EMS, we also

1546
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,160
approved all of that. The yellow is the

1547
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,079
ambulance.

1548
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:57,520
Um and that the money that we saw in the

1549
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,880
budget where they were selling the

1550
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,839
truck, they won't spend that much. They

1551
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:04,240
said it'll be closer to 100, but

1552
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,240
>> So why are we putting 150 if it won't

1553
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:07,920
cost 100? They can get an ambulance for

1554
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,920
100,000.

1555
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,680
>> Because we we approved up to because

1556
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,119
they go on an auction and they go fast.

1557
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:18,079
>> It's a used one.

1558
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:18,319
>> Yeah.

1559
00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:20,480
>> Uh-huh. It's a used one up on auction

1560
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,880
and they go fast. And so we approved an

1561
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,559
up to amount, but Ted and I mean Ted has

1562
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,240
come under budget on everything that

1563
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,960
he's asked for so far. And he assured us

1564
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,079
that it will not be that much. But we if we only approved a hundred and there

1565
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:39,520
was a great one for 110 and he they had

1566
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,280
to come back and get approval, we would

1567
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,520
lose that ambulance. It would be gone.

1568
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,319
>> That makes sense.

1569
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:50,319
>> So Yep. Um, and then roads and public

1570
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:52,400
improvement.

1571
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,440
So the the 1 million4

1572
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,160
that's based on getting the bond. So

1573
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,760
that's not coming out of

1574
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,799
>> Okay. So then what's that $690,000

1575
00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:04,640
expense if it's not retirement of a

1576
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,520
bond?

1577
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,000
>> That's based on us getting the bond and

1578
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:17,200
spending the money. I don't know what I can call Ben, I guess, and ask him.

1579
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,359
Um,

1580
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,040
but if we don't like if we didn't

1581
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,960
approve this, we'd have to take the

1582
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
million for income out that we had in

1583
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,079
this category. And we we spoke with the

1584
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,160
banker and this was while Chris was

1585
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,200
still here. We are pre-approved for

1586
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,119
that. We had we're not spending that

1587
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:36,640
money yet. Again, this isn't even

1588
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,680
approved yet. This is just uh the

1589
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,079
council said yes, you know, if we get

1590
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:43,680
the bond and the bond goes through, then

1591
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,240
yes, we can spend that money. Is there

1592
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,119
interest to test to a bond?

1593
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:50,240
>> Absolutely.

1594
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,680
>> Figured. Do we know what that interest

1595
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,760
rate will be?

1596
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,160
>> Six.

1597
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,920
>> Our first interest rate was very

1598
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,839
>> There was one that was zero. There was

1599
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:03,280
one that was 2.5.

1600
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,599
>> I think the one we did on water was

1601
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,040
zero. The one on water was zero because

1602
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,880
that was some kind of government

1603
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,640
>> and we got like u

1604
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,839
200,000 or 300,000

1605
00:57:17,839 --> 00:57:20,000
forgiveness.

1606
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,559
>> Yeah.

1607
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,720
>> So it was some government program.

1608
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,319
>> Yeah.

1609
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:25,280
So this will

1610
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,599
>> the interest on that when we last fall

1611
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:29,839
we looked at um

1612
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:32,000
>> whether it was better to get a bond and

1613
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,680
pay the interest or incur the

1614
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,359
everinccreasing cost

1615
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:39,200
>> would be as false

1616
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,520
>> the the inflation on road construction

1617
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,400
because the average increase was I can't

1618
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,000
remember now it's like 12% or 13%.

1619
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,400
>> Yeah. Okay.

1620
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,319
>> I'm calling Ben. I'll ask him your

1621
00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:54,880
question. Okay. Okay. So, the red, we

1622
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,480
don't know what this is for, so we're

1623
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,160
probably deleting that out. So, that's

1624
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,760
why it's a red, so that probably won't

1625
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,319
be there. Hi. Um, we have a question.

1626
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,720
Aaron is beating me up pretty good over

1627
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,480
here. I like it. He's putting me to the

1628
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,040
test, and I don't I know. So, he has a

1629
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,160
question for you. I'm just going to let

1630
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,599
him ask you.

1631
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:15,040
>> Is this Ted? Ben.

1632
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:15,680
>> Ben.

1633
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,480
>> Okay. So, Ben, when we were up in the uh

1634
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,079
expenses, we saw $690,000

1635
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:23,680
for a road.

1636
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,200
>> Well, for the bond

1637
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:27,839
find it now

1638
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:31,829
>> in revenue.

1639
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:34,960
» I know. I'm looking for it, too.

1640
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:41,200
>> It was something we weren't supposed to

1641
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,319
be looking at, but we were kind of

1642
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:46,640
looking at all of it. It's line 4141.

1643
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,440
>> Oh, good. I thank you.

1644
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,400
>> Yeah, there it is.

1645
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,599
>> Six digits.

1646
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:55,270
>> 4141.

1647
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,520
» I'm actually in my garden right now.

1648
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,799
>> I hear birds chirping.

1649
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:03,440
>> Where?

1650
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,200
>> In Woodland Hills. Always birds

1651
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,240
chirping, right?

1652
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,520
>> Yeah.

1653
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,839
>> Where you see

1654
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:11,119
it?

1655
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,359
>> 690.

1656
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:14,559
That's the one you're asking about,

1657
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:16,799
right?

1658
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:20,160
>> Ben, it's a it's labeled principal sales

1659
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,240
tax revenue refunding bond

1660
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,640
and it's 690,000.

1661
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,799
No, the pages

1662
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:31,119
>> and that's in the budget changes column

1663
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:31,599
for

1664
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:33,040
>> is different than yours

1665
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000
>> March 2026.

1666
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,000
>> So it's not revenues.

1667
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,480
No.

1668
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,359
>> Yeah. The tax revenue refunding bond.

1669
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,040
>> We were thinking that we were getting a

1670
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040
new bond and that was retirement of the

1671
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,960
old bonds.

1672
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,280
>> But then when we got down to the

1673
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,160
variable requests, the full 1 million4

1674
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,880
is shown being expended on the roads.

1675
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,400
>> Okay. I'm still not seeing it like

1676
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,799
>> so it confused us.

1677
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:01,839
>> Don't see anything about road.

1678
01:00:01,839 --> 01:00:05,520
>> Let me pull it up if I can. I don't know

1679
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,200
if there's a note for the blue or the

1680
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:07,520
white.

1681
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,680
>> Or you could walk over. Sorry. You're in

1682
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,240
the garden.

1683
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,079
>> That's okay. I uh

1684
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:15,200
>> see that close.

1685
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,400
>> Get to the garden.

1686
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,079
>> Where are you now?

1687
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:19,119
>> Right here.

1688
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:20,000
>> He's across the street.

1689
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,799
>> Couple hundred yards up the road.

1690
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:25,280
>> Yeah. So, I'm literally just just right

1691
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,960
here.

1692
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,599
Okay. Uh give me um give me five

1693
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:30,640
minutes. I'll be right there.

1694
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,119
>> Okay. Thank you. Bye. We'll keep going.

1695
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:38,799
All right. So then um snowplow, we went

1696
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:41,040
through snowplow

1697
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,839
and um we approved everything there. We

1698
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:48,000
the salt is variable. So that's why that

1699
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,319
one's yellow. We just don't know. But we

1700
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:53,599
have to have salt. It's not really I

1701
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:55,200
kind of some of these things I question

1702
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,040
why they're in there. Like salt

1703
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,280
shouldn't but it's not a fixed cost. I

1704
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,799
think that's why it's in the variable,

1705
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:02,480
right? Because it changes every year.

1706
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,880
>> Maybe 10,000 have another year like this

1707
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,000
year where we did

1708
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:06,960
>> I hope not.

1709
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,160
>> Yeah, I hope not, too.

1710
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,480
>> So, they've got blade replacements for

1711
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:11,280
6,000.

1712
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,960
>> It's not the actual blade. It's the

1713
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,680
rubber edge. There's a rubber edge that

1714
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:16,960
we they wear out and they have to

1715
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,079
replace I can't remember what they call

1716
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,599
it. I learned a lot of things that I

1717
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:20,880
never thought I would know about, but

1718
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,960
anyway, they have to replace those all

1719
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,160
the time. Um, and then

1720
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,520
>> you know that thing that goes around the

1721
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,520
fire sprinklers is called Nutchum.

1722
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,400
>> Learn that.

1723
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,839
>> Oh, I did not know that.

1724
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:38,559
U mis truck misque truck parts. Um

1725
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:39,680
>> miscellaneous.

1726
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,160
>> Yeah, that's just like

1727
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,680
>> the lights they put on them and

1728
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,599
different things. Um and then fuel and

1729
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:49,520
then repairs and maintenance, snow

1730
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,520
plowing. It's it's not anything to do

1731
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,839
with the actual truck, the lease part.

1732
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:56,400
It's just the parts cuz we have parts on

1733
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,000
them. You know, we have the plows and

1734
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:03,670
some of them have the dumpers on them.

1735
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,040
Did you see where that was or do you

1736
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,960
want me to show you?

1737
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,240
>> Just remind me again.

1738
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,200
>> 690

1739
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,839
>> 4141

1740
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:19,109
>> 700.

1741
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,520
» Sorry, you ran. You're huffing.

1742
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,760
>> Oh, I do that anyway.

1743
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,359
>> You want me to point it?

1744
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:27,680
>> Yeah. So, we've spent

1745
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,200
Oh, we're budgeting.

1746
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,119
>> What's this guy? Yeah. So that's

1747
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:36,160
this past budget.

1748
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,040
So we're budgeting 92,000

1749
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,319
for 2027.

1750
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:43,200
>> But why would we have $700,000 one year

1751
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,280
and 90,000 the next year?

1752
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,640
>> And 90 there and 87 and 84 there.

1753
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,040
>> Principal sales tax.

1754
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,880
>> This is my issue with some of these

1755
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,000
names

1756
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,240
>> is they're useless.

1757
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,960
principal, sales, tax, revenue, funding,

1758
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,160
bond is 41417.

1759
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,920
>> Aaron's got an eagle eye, so he doesn't

1760
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,319
know what that's for.

1761
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:08,880
>> I need one more piece of information.

1762
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,319
>> Okay.

1763
01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:11,200
got it.

1764
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,440
>> All right. So then, um,

1765
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,480
just at the bottom, parks, PTR has a

1766
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,640
budget of,500. They try to use it for

1767
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,440
beautifification, stuff like that. City

1768
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,680
Celebrations, that's for Woodland Hills

1769
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,039
Days and all the things. Um, and then

1770
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:30,720
parks repairs, maintenance, that's for

1771
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,839
sprinkler repairs and trail replacement.

1772
01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:36,960
And what the trail replacement is is um

1773
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,720
the asphalt. There's several places that

1774
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,880
crumble and fall apart. And we need to

1775
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,640
keep that good so that especially some

1776
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,319
of our senior citizens and people like

1777
01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:46,400
that have access. We don't want people

1778
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,039
falling.

1779
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:48,480
>> When you say the trail, you're talking

1780
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,480
about the asphalt trail that goes

1781
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,280
through the park.

1782
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,280
>> Yep. and around and connects to the

1783
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,680
pavilion and stuff like that. So they in

1784
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,480
sections um as sections break up,

1785
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,559
they'll go and just repair those

1786
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:03,440
sections. So that's what that is for.

1787
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,960
>> And that parks would would the trail up

1788
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,559
the switchback trail, would that be

1789
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:09,920
included in this budget?

1790
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,680
>> In the PTR budget, the 1500 PTR budget

1791
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,960
>> is it paid?

1792
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:15,280
>> No.

1793
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,319
I don't think so.

1794
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:19,680
>> But there's water bars up there. Um, and

1795
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,599
in the past there they've done some

1796
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:24,160
signage. Uh, one year when Ben and I

1797
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,319
were both serving on the PTR, we put

1798
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:30,240
ballards in so that uh, sideby sides

1799
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,880
that weren't wider than is it 50 in,

1800
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,200
Ben?

1801
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,160
>> 50 in.

1802
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,480
If they're wider than 50 in, they

1803
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,559
can't go on the trail cuz it's not safe.

1804
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:40,559
We actually when we were up there

1805
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:43,119
working um we each had four-wheelers

1806
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:45,119
with trailers on them and I was coming

1807
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:46,960
down and Ben was going up and we could

1808
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,280
barely just a standard four-wheeler. It

1809
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,880
was it was pretty scary and Ben was on

1810
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,000
the outside edge so it was pretty scary.

1811
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,720
Um

1812
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,359
>> I encountered a Ford truck driving the

1813
01:04:57,359 --> 01:04:59,039
switchbacks one time when I was hiking

1814
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,119
it. I couldn't believe it.

1815
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,039
>> Yeah, we had a Honda Pilot once take

1816
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:05,039
them take its way all the way to the

1817
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:05,680
top. It

1818
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,920
>> was crazy. So that's what the that's

1819
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,079
what the PTRs goes goes to. So all good

1820
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,160
things that need to be done.

1821
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,640
>> And the red ones you guys have decided

1822
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,839
you're not going to fund those

1823
01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:21,680
>> or we don't Yeah, the chipper um the

1824
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,480
that one.

1825
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,200
Uh Ted's going to apply for a grant

1826
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,119
maybe to get our our own chipper in the

1827
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,359
city and then we could do it more often

1828
01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:33,200
or we could have our fuel reduction

1829
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,280
crew, our wildland firefighters, they

1830
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,440
could do it for people for a cost, you

1831
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,599
know, like they do now with cutting the

1832
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:41,359
trees and stuff. So that one's red

1833
01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:43,839
because it only it if

1834
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:44,319
>> on the grant.

1835
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:45,599
>> If we don't get the grant, then we won't

1836
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:46,079
do it.

1837
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:46,640
>> Yeah.

1838
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,400
>> Okay. So then we'll go back to Jod's.

1839
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,920
And this is how we did it as a council,

1840
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,359
too. We kind of skipped the purple

1841
01:05:51,359 --> 01:05:53,839
because we were like, "Oh."

1842
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:56,160
Um,

1843
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,400
so these are the things that are

1844
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,680
approved. Uh, again, admin, travel,

1845
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,520
conferences,

1846
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,039
book subscriptions, and these are

1847
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,280
different ones, but

1848
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,280
Cura, these are just some of the

1849
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,880
different ones that she has to pay for.

1850
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,720
Um, printer, lease, and computer

1851
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,559
supplies. One of the things a lot of the

1852
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,440
computers and things at the city the

1853
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,400
equipment's really old and so just like

1854
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,920
they're doing with trucks and things

1855
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,480
they want to rotate out

1856
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,400
um you know a couple maybe a couple of

1857
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,280
computers every year um so that they're

1858
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,119
so they'll be only be maybe four or five

1859
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,039
years old instead of 10 or 12 years old.

1860
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:37,839
They want to just rotate those things.

1861
01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:39,760
>> The new part there, sorry to butt in

1862
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,400
here.

1863
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,920
>> Do it. Um, when we changed over to our

1864
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,599
new IT service provider, he built into

1865
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:50,960
the savings from our previous IT this

1866
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,240
line item. So, the replacement of two

1867
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,599
computers a year is in the savings plus

1868
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:00,400
a little bit more with our new IT

1869
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,039
individual.

1870
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,680
>> Our old company that we had before was

1871
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,319
substantially more. So, we're saving a

1872
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:10,319
lot of money um with the current person

1873
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:11,839
and that's what we try to do when we

1874
01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:14,160
make these changes is try to make it uh

1875
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,400
more affordable. And then um

1876
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,359
repairs, maintenance to city facilities

1877
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:25,359
and um I can't remember what exactly cuz

1878
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:28,160
I was looking. Okay. Oh, it's separate.

1879
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,799
So, that's just various repairs. There's

1880
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:32,160
a lot of things outside that need to be

1881
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,920
done. There's some windows that leak,

1882
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,920
some flashing that has issues. Um, and

1883
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,440
so they're looking to get those

1884
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,079
repaired.

1885
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:41,920
>> I would just go back to what we

1886
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,520
discussed earlier about anything over

1887
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,920
10,000 be broken out a little bit more

1888
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,750
if we can do that.

1889
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,359
» Yeah.

1890
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:54,240
Polaris and Nebo Interactive, those are

1891
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:54,720
just

1892
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,480
>> Is that a subscription that you have to

1893
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:57,440
pay?

1894
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,920
>> Yes. Yeah, it seems pricey for

1895
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:02,480
>> But Polus is the finance. So that's

1896
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:03,920
actually two. So this wouldn't be a bad

1897
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,319
idea, Michael, for me to break it out.

1898
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:11,599
So Polaris is uh the IT system or the

1899
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:15,760
accounting system. Um and then Neibo

1900
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,920
Interactive is the new IT company. So

1901
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,679
they're around a thousand. Well, they

1902
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:22,799
they're a thousand. So 12,000 of that is

1903
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:25,120
>> is the IT system.

1904
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,600
>> IT support. 4,000 for the accounting

1905
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,480
system.

1906
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:31,199
And he's been here like at city council

1907
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:33,120
meetings and stuff tweaking things and

1908
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,000
making sure

1909
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,839
>> he lives across the street from Michael

1910
01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:38,560
>> and so he's been here. Yeah, he's great.

1911
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,640
>> Blinds

1912
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,960
>> uh during COVID when uh my husband had

1913
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,440
to be from home from, you know, home

1914
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:47,920
teaching and uploading and the boys.

1915
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,080
Anyway, he came and got our house set up

1916
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,080
and did a phenomenal job and saved my

1917
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,309
marriage. Um,

1918
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,640
uh, rekey 4,000 you ever spent, huh?

1919
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,080
>> Uhhuh.

1920
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,080
>> Rekey the building and additional door

1921
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,600
locks. Um, there's just it's time to re

1922
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,279
key the building. It's been a long time.

1923
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:09,759
We don't know who has what keys. There's

1924
01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:13,040
been a lot of change and so, um, I just

1925
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,799
thought that would be a good time. Good

1926
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:17,359
time. And then the repainting of the

1927
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,759
city. And if you look the flooring, they

1928
01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:24,799
actually asked for more, but we we cut

1929
01:09:24,799 --> 01:09:26,719
it down substantially. So, we approved

1930
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:28,880
these, but a lesser amount. So, we kind

1931
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,839
of saved these. The

1932
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:30,880
>> carpet looks good.

1933
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,080
>> Yeah. I just

1934
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,640
>> It's just It's just where the employees

1935
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,920
That section

1936
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,679
>> Yeah. It's fraying on some of the

1937
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:41,120
doorways and stuff.

1938
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,199
>> So, that's why we said sections. And so

1939
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,040
they think um that they can, you know,

1940
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,640
there's a door that locks that you can't

1941
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,199
get to where the offices are.

1942
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,839
We could get that section carpeted to

1943
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:54,560
that door and then maybe the next year

1944
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,560
as another section needs it.

1945
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,159
>> So the whole 25,000 isn't approved.

1946
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:02,159
>> No, it it is. Okay.

1947
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:03,520
>> But it's only doing

1948
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:04,000
>> 50.

1949
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:04,719
>> Not all will come.

1950
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:06,960
>> It was 50. So we we approved and that's

1951
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,920
up to they probably won't spend all of

1952
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,800
that. Um,

1953
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,960
and then

1954
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280
the digitizing city records. That was

1955
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,840
something half and half it looks like.

1956
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,480
Front entry mat $500. So if you go to

1957
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,800
the front door, the mat the letters are

1958
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,880
peeling out and it's got duct tape on

1959
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,280
it. It looks really classy.

1960
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,640
We said we wanted that. Um, we did not

1961
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,280
approve, that's why it's in red, the

1962
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,040
failing retaining wall at the city

1963
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:45,030
center. sit back.

1964
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,800
» We've had two geotechs that have come

1965
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,960
out and looked at it. One's giving us a

1966
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,640
written formal opinion. The other just

1967
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,480
said, "Nah, you still got another five,

1968
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,120
six years at least." So,

1969
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,719
>> we had one person that said it was

1970
01:10:56,719 --> 01:10:58,800
failing. And so, now some people are

1971
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,120
like, "Oh, the wall is going to fall

1972
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,800
down." But, um, but we've had two people

1973
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,560
look at it. So, and then the fridge in

1974
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,040
the kitchen. Replace the fridge in the

1975
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,000
kitchen.

1976
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,040
>> You can is a small fridge.

1977
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,400
>> It's a small fridge.

1978
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:16,880
>> Say,

1979
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,120
>> it must be for

1980
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,560
>> But it does. It just keeps things

1981
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,040
lukewarm at this point. So, or freezes

1982
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:23,280
them.

1983
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,080
>> It freezes.

1984
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,600
their lunches. So,

1985
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,080
>> we are We'll probably go to KSL for

1986
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:28,800
that.

1987
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,080
>> Yeah. They'll get a used one.

1988
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,199
>> Um HVAC repairs.

1989
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:38,080
So Jody was telling us that uh the AC

1990
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,640
units she has to go outside and fiddle

1991
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,320
with them. Sometimes they they won't

1992
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,920
like it doesn't turn on. So she has to

1993
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,440
go out

1994
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:48,560
>> if she doesn't get electrocuted.

1995
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,679
>> So um

1996
01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:51,920
>> you rip the fuse out. So

1997
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,280
>> yeah. And then uh we did not approve an

1998
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,400
audio system for in the big room when we

1999
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,920
have meetings. I mean it was a wish

2000
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:01,520
list, right? This was a wish list and we

2001
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,960
just said no, we're not going to do that

2002
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,040
this time. But um we actually when we've

2003
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,040
had when we have a truth and taxation

2004
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,199
meeting or something in there, we have

2005
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:12,719
microphones held together with duct tape

2006
01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:14,480
and we borrow some of Ben's personal

2007
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,480
equipment. He brings his personal

2008
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:18,960
equipment in that we borrow to be able

2009
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:19,679
to

2010
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,239
>> But even if we had to rent a proper

2011
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:25,679
system for once or twice a year,

2012
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:27,360
>> it wouldn't be that expensive. Yeah,

2013
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,280
it's not worth spending. That's why it's

2014
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,000
>> in full disclosure

2015
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,320
and also stores it here. So we just fair

2016
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,149
trade.

2017
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,440
» Okay, that makes it fair.

2018
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:44,719
>> I'm getting the better end of the deal.

2019
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:46,560
I'll be honest.

2020
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,000
So the meeting room audio system in here

2021
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,679
um

2022
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:55,440
you know for Zoom Zoom to Teams that was

2023
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,360
it was requested that it get switched

2024
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,040
from Zoom to Teams

2025
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,440
and that's just the cost to to change

2026
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:04,640
it.

2027
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,360
>> Yeah.

2028
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,120
>> And the Zoom cost is about $1,000 a year

2029
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,679
and that would be so Teams is included

2030
01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:15,120
in our Microsoft 365 account. So, we're

2031
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,960
spending an additional thousand dollar a

2032
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,320
year for Zoom. So,

2033
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,000
the end of our license, we'll just flip

2034
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,800
to Zoom for an extra 148 and then it

2035
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,800
won't be an ongoing cost.

2036
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,320
>> Flipping to Zoom or you

2037
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,560
>> Yeah, to

2038
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,199
um this one is for bulletproof glass. We

2039
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:38,960
didn't I don't think we approved all of

2040
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,400
it. Uh we decided to do part of it. Um,

2041
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,320
all the cities are going to this now,

2042
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,360
unfortunately. So, what we decided would

2043
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,120
be the most important is you've got

2044
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Jodie whose windows right there on the

2045
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,719
front. So, anybody that's uh level with

2046
01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:57,360
the parking lot that those windows be

2047
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,920
replaced with some bulletproof glass.

2048
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,679
So, the mayor, you can still take a pot

2049
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:03,120
shot at the mayor if you think you're a

2050
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,960
good shot from down below cuz he's on

2051
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,640
this side.

2052
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,120
>> Lights on. I mean, heaven forbid. Is he

2053
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,520
replacing the windows or putting on I

2054
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,920
know he sells us a film.

2055
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,640
>> So, we'll probably do a film. Sorry, I

2056
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:17,440
didn't mean to.

2057
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:18,080
>> You're good.

2058
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,920
>> Trying to stay so you guys have more

2059
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:20,159
time.

2060
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:23,199
>> You know more than I do. So,

2061
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:25,040
>> I was just curious.

2062
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,640
>> It's not that big a deal.

2063
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,880
>> Okay, perfect.

2064
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,520
>> Yeah, we don't actually that if people

2065
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,199
can listen to this later and

2066
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:38,719
>> for security purposes. Um and then um

2067
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:40,400
>> this was already discussed in council

2068
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:40,800
meeting.

2069
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,960
>> Yes. But carefully

2070
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,640
and then a cabinet shelf for the audio

2071
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,320
equipment in the closet over there. The

2072
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,760
audio equipment is sitting on a piano

2073
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,600
bench.

2074
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,679
So they want to get a rack

2075
01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:53,120
>> and we're thinking you may be selling

2076
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,960
the piano

2077
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,640
and we think we probably need to sell it

2078
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,920
with the bench.

2079
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,480
>> Yeah,

2080
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:00,880
>> probably. Why do we have a piano here?

2081
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,280
>> Uh Milin, so a lot of like all these

2082
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,400
chairs, you know how they look like

2083
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,960
Relief Society chairs? That's because

2084
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,560
So when they were decommissioning a

2085
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:09,760
church, Milin,

2086
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,280
>> he just bought the lot.

2087
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,679
>> He brought them and they were donated to

2088
01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:14,239
the city. So

2089
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:15,280
>> donated them to the city.

2090
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,239
>> All of our chairs, all of our racking,

2091
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:20,239
um the piano,

2092
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:21,760
they're all former.

2093
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,159
>> So he needed the bench to put stuff on

2094
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,000
and he got the piano cuz he had to take

2095
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:26,960
it with the bench.

2096
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,000
>> Yes, pretty much.

2097
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,159
>> The bench was always in the way, so we

2098
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:36,640
stole it to put the stuff on. So, yeah.

2099
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,159
>> Well, I would imagine you could put that

2100
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:41,280
on surplus and get a a buyer that'd be

2101
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,360
happy to take it. Even a a resident be

2102
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,480
happy to get

2103
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:45,920
>> We're going to throw it up on the

2104
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,560
Facebook page first to a resident. So,

2105
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,000
we're looking to sell the piano right

2106
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,440
now for like 500 bucks.

2107
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:52,000
>> Great.

2108
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,239
>> And so, it's actually a line item.

2109
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,880
>> Can you do you have do you have to go

2110
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,120
through the public surplus sites as

2111
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,280
opposed to just on Facebook Marketplace

2112
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,120
>> or anything over 500? Yes.

2113
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,320
>> Okay.

2114
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,679
>> That might be where I got the number.

2115
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:10,880
>> That's probably where you got the

2116
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,840
number.

2117
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,040
>> You got the number. Um and then the

2118
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,640
front door locking mechanism. You know

2119
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,560
how you can't open it? It's really hard.

2120
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,560
Um some of our elderly residents can't

2121
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,600
get in.

2122
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,920
>> Or the FedEx and UPS guy.

2123
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,719
>> Yeah, there's that guy, too. They they

2124
01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:28,320
think we're not here. They actually

2125
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,600
won't deliver stuff because they think

2126
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,600
nobody's here. So, um, then repairs to

2127
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,040
the outside of the city center. We kind

2128
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,400
of talked about some of those. Repairs

2129
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,520
to the inside of the city center.

2130
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,120
Um,

2131
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,440
an EMP protector that is for the city,

2132
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:48,400
>> the for the computer equipment.

2133
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,920
>> Uh, it's a whole building,

2134
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,480
>> a whole building electrical system like

2135
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:53,280
protection.

2136
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,480
>> It'll protect the city center.

2137
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:59,199
Um, once

2138
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:01,840
>> for one hit. It's a one time use.

2139
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:02,800
>> It'll burn it up.

2140
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,000
>> EMP magnetic pulse

2141
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,840
>> because the the city center is supposed

2142
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,080
to be especially it's supposed to be the

2143
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,440
gathering place, right? If something

2144
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:13,520
like that were to happen, this is where

2145
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,280
the citizens would come and especially

2146
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,840
like in the winter if there's no heat.

2147
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,120
So, um

2148
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,199
>> but in Oceans 11, they called it a

2149
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:22,000
pinch.

2150
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,199
>> Yeah.

2151
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:26,080
>> But 500 bucks, that's just a surge

2152
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,360
protector from a power failure. An EMP

2153
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,600
as in a weaponized thing is not 500

2154
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,600
bucks. It's $500,000.

2155
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,880
>> No, it is. That is uh

2156
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:37,679
>> it's Aeron's

2157
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:40,400
>> uh Aaron. So talk to Aaron Gilbert. He's

2158
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:40,960
our emergency.

2159
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,239
>> I don't want to talk to Aaron Gilbert

2160
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:43,120
about that crap.

2161
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,880
>> Okay.

2162
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,800
But that's what it is. It'll protect us.

2163
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,840
It'll also protect us from

2164
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,080
>> a surge once as well. So the other

2165
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,159
option we had priced out was a full

2166
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:56,080
building surge protector.

2167
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,480
>> And that was about 35,000.

2168
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,880
And so we didn't have that much money in

2169
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,800
it. And Aaron said, "Well, you could

2170
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,640
protect the building for 500

2171
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,360
>> for one time."

2172
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,440
>> For a one time use. So

2173
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:09,360
>> it'll fry it up after that, but it'll

2174
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:10,000
protect it.

2175
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,280
>> Eron, to your point, yes, we would need

2176
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,960
to put the whole thing in a Faraday

2177
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:15,840
cage.

2178
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:16,239
>> Yeah.

2179
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:20,159
>> To truly protect the entire building.

2180
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:23,360
But if an EMP goes off

2181
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,920
um and it takes out the grid and the

2182
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:30,080
grid overloads and starts, that's really

2183
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,239
the type of protector this is.

2184
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:35,040
>> This is just in line with the main line

2185
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,960
coming in.

2186
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,320
>> So it's I've been told search protector

2187
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,280
is not the correct term and EMP

2188
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,800
protector is more accurate, but it's

2189
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:47,840
>> kind of similar.

2190
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,760
>> Does it go on the main line? main

2191
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,239
coming.

2192
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:52,719
>> Yeah, it'll go right in between the main

2193
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:57,360
line and then our panels right nearly

2194
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,000
below you.

2195
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,719
>> So, you get one surge and it's gone.

2196
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:01,760
>> Like a fuse.

2197
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,199
>> Yeah, it's like a big fuse.

2198
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:05,679
>> We'd have to just get a new one. Um, we

2199
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,840
did not approve. You can see it doesn't

2200
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,679
have an X there for replacing the lights

2201
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:13,280
to LED. I was opposed. LED lights are

2202
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,560
bad for you.

2203
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,800
>> What

2204
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,679
they are?

2205
01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:18,880
>> Uh-huh.

2206
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,040
Um backup generator cable and box. So we

2207
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,400
uh

2208
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,560
>> is that for here or the

2209
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,520
>> for here?

2210
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,040
>> Not the the pump.

2211
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,000
>> We have one there.

2212
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:30,640
>> Yeah,

2213
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,159
>> we've got one. We already did that one.

2214
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:34,719
>> So we don't have a generator now.

2215
01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:37,760
>> Not for here.

2216
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,320
>> Just for the water systems.

2217
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,480
>> We'd still have water,

2218
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:44,480
which is good. If I had to choose

2219
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:45,920
between having lights on at the city

2220
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,280
center or having water, I'd choose

2221
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,040
water. I think I think that's probably a

2222
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,880
wise investment to have backup

2223
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,520
>> an emergency.

2224
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,880
>> So, you know, that's just the cable in

2225
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,880
the connection box right there.

2226
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,560
>> That's not the actual generator.

2227
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,320
>> The generator. So, Aaron actually

2228
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,120
another Aaron thing Aaron has

2229
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,080
>> a generator that he would it's on wheels

2230
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,760
that he would then bring over and when

2231
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,360
we get to the point where we can buy our

2232
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,280
own generator,

2233
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,880
>> we will still need these two items. So,

2234
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,360
>> but he he'll he would loan it to us.

2235
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,320
>> So, how in the world is just a cable and

2236
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,239
box 30,000 but a generator?

2237
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:25,840
>> It's a big cable.

2238
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,120
>> Yeah. I mean, this is a big building,

2239
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,840
>> but I can't imagine a little Lowe's

2240
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,960
on wheels generator putting out enough

2241
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,640
power to need a cable in box 40,000.

2242
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,800
This isn't a big Lowe's on wheels.

2243
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,520
>> $60,000 cat generator.

2244
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,440
>> It's on big wheels.

2245
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:49,840
>> It's It actually used to be the city's

2246
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,199
generator acquired by Corbett uh in a

2247
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,480
surplus cell at some point. When Ted

2248
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,440
came on, we deemed that repairing it

2249
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:01,679
would cost around $10,000.

2250
01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:04,320
So, we put it up on surplus where Aaron

2251
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,400
actually then bid on it and won it and

2252
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,719
then spent the 10,000 and got it rebuilt

2253
01:21:08,719 --> 01:21:12,719
by Caterpillar. and now has it and then

2254
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:14,640
is offering it in the case of an

2255
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,600
emergency

2256
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,480
>> cuz he's our emergency management guy.

2257
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,600
>> So it's Would it sit here or would it he

2258
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:22,880
just keep it at his home and bring it

2259
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:23,679
here?

2260
01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:25,920
>> Keep it at his home. His home's right

2261
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:26,640
there.

2262
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,120
>> But what's the point of him having it

2263
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,040
but planning to give it to the city when

2264
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,360
it's

2265
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,880
>> Well, he would loan it.

2266
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,679
>> That's That's a buy one yet.

2267
01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:37,360
>> But when it's needed, why is he going to

2268
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:38,719
say, "I don't I'm not going to use it

2269
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:40,000
for my house. going to take care of the

2270
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,159
city.

2271
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:43,280
>> Too big for his house.

2272
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,880
>> So then why don't we just buy it back?

2273
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,080
>> Uh

2274
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:48,880
>> yeah,

2275
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,920
>> that is an option.

2276
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,600
>> That's a good question

2277
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,960
>> because he's willing to loan it right

2278
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,360
now.

2279
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,199
>> So if we bought it back, it would be an

2280
01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:58,080
additional line item to this obviously

2281
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,120
and that 30,000 would still be required.

2282
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,520
>> Sure. But if we need backup power for

2283
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,600
the city center, which is a a critical

2284
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,679
infrastructure piece, then we should get

2285
01:22:07,679 --> 01:22:09,280
it, not just leave it at Aaron's house

2286
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:10,800
and hope he'll wheel it over when we

2287
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:11,840
need it.

2288
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,159
>> We haven't ever needed it yet.

2289
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:15,440
>> No, we have Well,

2290
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:15,840
>> but

2291
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,600
>> there have been a couple times when

2292
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,120
backup power to the city building would

2293
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,760
have been helpful. Uh we actually lost a

2294
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,440
big I don't know, Michael, were you here

2295
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:26,639
on when we had a emergency call?

2296
01:22:26,639 --> 01:22:28,719
>> Um and there was power out.

2297
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:30,000
>> I didn't go out. That's when they busted

2298
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:30,639
the door.

2299
01:22:30,639 --> 01:22:31,360
>> Yeah. Yeah,

2300
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,440
>> because the door came slid down a little

2301
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:34,400
bit

2302
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,800
>> and the fire truck came out, took off

2303
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,560
the bottom panel of the garage door,

2304
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,400
which is dangerous for our

2305
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,199
>> Was that

2306
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:43,199
>> That wasn't too long ago. That was

2307
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:45,120
three, four, four years ago.

2308
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,480
>> Yeah, I remember when.

2309
01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:47,440
>> So,

2310
01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:49,920
>> it was strange cuz our up here very

2311
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:50,719
often.

2312
01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:52,000
>> My thought would be

2313
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,840
>> there's no point in having a cable and

2314
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,520
box if we don't have a generator to

2315
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,120
connect it to. We either buy the full

2316
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,719
system or we don't spend any money on

2317
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:00,800
any of Well, the cable and box makes us

2318
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,040
we could also there are a couple in the

2319
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:04,960
state, right, that are emergency ones

2320
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:05,760
that

2321
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,360
>> but everybody would be scrambling for

2322
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,120
them. There are other ones, but we can't

2323
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,600
even borrow those without the 30,000 for

2324
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,080
the cable and box. So, the cable and box

2325
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,080
is so that we have the ability

2326
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,199
>> plug in to plug one in,

2327
01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:18,400
>> plug a generator in. Yeah.

2328
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,000
>> Without the 30,000, we don't even have

2329
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,000
that ability.

2330
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,239
>> Yeah. So, right now it's I would say

2331
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:27,199
leave this in. We buy this this year and

2332
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:29,920
then budget year 2028.

2333
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,360
What's budget in?

2334
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,480
>> So isition of agend is this all with an

2335
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,159
electrician putting it in?

2336
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:37,920
>> This is with Alan Wakefield. Yeah.

2337
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,600
>> And making it work for us.

2338
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,080
>> Yep. 100%. That's why that number is

2339
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,320
also larger than what we might assume

2340
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:45,679
with just a cable in box.

2341
01:23:45,679 --> 01:23:48,000
>> Yeah.

2342
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,480
>> Um and then I should have got one. Is

2343
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,960
the council ready room open? New chairs

2344
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,560
for the council ready room. Does anyone

2345
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:55,920
object to that? Would you like me to get

2346
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:56,480
you one?

2347
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:57,760
>> I don't even know the council ready

2348
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:58,239
room.

2349
01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:00,080
>> You end up wearing the chair.

2350
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,400
>> It's peeling off so badly that the chair

2351
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,199
ends up all over you. And when we have

2352
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:07,600
people come, visitors, it's a conference

2353
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,000
room right there that we meet in and the

2354
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,040
chairs are so bad they're falling apart.

2355
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,040
Um, is it open? I think we have one.

2356
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,040
>> I'm I'm going to say that that's not a

2357
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,840
good and not a fair price because I'm

2358
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,910
just I just got

2359
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,159
Um, I've got a whole lot of chairs that

2360
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:29,120
I'm trying to get rid of and they're

2361
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,600
only giving me 30 bucks a chair.

2362
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,400
>> What kind of chairs?

2363
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,000
>> These are um waiting room chairs for our

2364
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,800
clinic. And I called our our office

2365
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,760
supply dealer and I said, "This person's

2366
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,679
giving me pennies on the dollar for what

2367
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:47,920
we bought these from you for." And he

2368
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,280
said, "Because the used office furniture

2369
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,560
market is flooded right now with so much

2370
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,000
stuff coming in from California."

2371
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,120
>> Yeah, they're pretty bad.

2372
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,159
>> Yeah, man. I I whole agree. We should

2373
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:03,600
replace those chairs.

2374
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:04,000
>> Let's

2375
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,120
>> But I don't think you need to spend

2376
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,239
1,600 bucks.

2377
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:08,639
>> Send that contact information to Jody,

2378
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:09,040
please.

2379
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,719
>> How many chairs do you need?

2380
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:12,320
>> I think it's six or eight.

2381
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:12,960
>> Three.

2382
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:13,760
>> Six or eight?

2383
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,679
>> Oh, six or eight. Okay. It's a

2384
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:17,679
conference room, so they're conference

2385
01:25:17,679 --> 01:25:20,000
room chairs. And we'll have, you know,

2386
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,600
Mike Mccel here or somebody and for a

2387
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,400
meeting. And

2388
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,960
>> I say leave these in there. Then

2389
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,480
>> just put Mike's name Mike's chair and

2390
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,239
then everybody else can have nice ones.

2391
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:33,920
I'm just kidding. Mike,

2392
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,080
>> that's a joke. Don't listen to this

2393
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,760
Mike.

2394
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,159
>> All right. Um,

2395
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:41,920
any contacts though for anything cheaper

2396
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,400
I think is good. Yeah, we're always game

2397
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,679
for that.

2398
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:48,000
>> So, this is a water line in the old

2399
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,639
public works bay request for washing the

2400
01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:51,920
snowplow vehicles.

2401
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,520
>> That's here, right down below?

2402
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:53,920
>> Mhm.

2403
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,440
>> Yeah, I think that

2404
01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:55,920
>> that's probably

2405
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,960
>> Don't they already have something down

2406
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,199
there?

2407
01:25:57,199 --> 01:25:59,280
>> Be a must.

2408
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,320
>> Isn't there something down there

2409
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,159
already, Ben, for washing out the

2410
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:04,159
>> uh Yes. So,

2411
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:05,199
>> they probably drag a

2412
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:10,159
>> in this bay here where sits. Yep. Uh,

2413
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:13,360
that one does have a hose bib close. The

2414
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,840
other hose bib that we use for this bay

2415
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,120
in front of us out the front is hooked

2416
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,920
up over here. And so it runs the hose

2417
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,679
runs all the way up and coils up at the

2418
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:26,320
front and so we're always

2419
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,320
trying to have to jump through and trip

2420
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,840
and

2421
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,840
>> that. It's a wise investment

2422
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,400
>> because there's two in the in the fire

2423
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,239
engine bay too, right?

2424
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:38,159
>> Yep. that are cuz I think I used one of

2425
01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:40,239
those once when I was on the crew.

2426
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:42,480
>> Yeah. So you might So there is power

2427
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:46,400
washer reels. This power rasher reel is

2428
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,239
broken. It doesn't work anymore.

2429
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:48,639
>> Okay.

2430
01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:51,840
>> And so we've also found that just a hose

2431
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,920
speeds us up exponentially in cleaning

2432
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,280
those strings. So

2433
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,239
that was a request from our snowplow

2434
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:02,239
head lead.

2435
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:04,719
So, that's the uh we had some good

2436
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,159
suggestions since you're still sitting

2437
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:07,679
here, Ben.

2438
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:09,120
>> Um Aaron, do you want to talk to him

2439
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,440
about how to show council and mayor

2440
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:12,080
wages?

2441
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,639
>> Well, Ben, were you ever able to find

2442
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:16,159
the $700,000

2443
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:17,040
>> 690?

2444
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,960
>> I'm answer

2445
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,600
this is I'm still trying to figure out

2446
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,800
which option

2447
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,159
>> of the million

2448
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:28,639
>> that $4,000 investment in Polaris. We

2449
01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:31,600
need to invest more.

2450
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,440
Yeah. Well,

2451
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:36,320
Ben needs to just do some training.

2452
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,360
>> Lori is the one who usually run this

2453
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,600
runs this with me. So,

2454
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,280
>> she probably shows you click here, go

2455
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:43,840
there.

2456
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,360
>> Exactly.

2457
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,360
>> We're just we're we're wanting anything

2458
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,440
with five digits or more good

2459
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,120
explanation on what those funds are

2460
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,080
going for.

2461
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,679
>> I love it. Have you had that in the

2462
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:54,880
past?

2463
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:55,520
>> Not really.

2464
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:55,920
>> No.

2465
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,199
>> Okay, perfect. No, I I think what we

2466
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:00,719
said is historically you'd ask a

2467
01:28:00,719 --> 01:28:02,080
question and Chris would spout off an

2468
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,239
answer and whether we whether it made

2469
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:06,960
sense or not, that was the answer. And

2470
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,199
then remember when you look back at it

2471
01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:11,120
later and you go, I don't know if that's

2472
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:11,760
right.

2473
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:12,800
>> Yeah.

2474
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,840
>> If we have it all in a notes section at

2475
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:16,239
the end,

2476
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:17,440
>> there are good notes.

2477
01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:19,760
>> So if you look at like n line 16 here,

2478
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:20,239
right?

2479
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:20,560
>> Right.

2480
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,199
>> Uh it's 10,000 for repaint the inside of

2481
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:24,960
the city center.

2482
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,199
>> That you're good with, right? You're

2483
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:29,199
talking these. So if you flip to the

2484
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:30,880
other tab there, J.

2485
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,320
>> It's this one.

2486
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,920
>> So if we go into for instance, I assume

2487
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,840
if I can understand it, you probably can

2488
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,040
understand it as well. Is that a fairly

2489
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:46,159
>> safe assumption? You know, because the assumption is not only is this for

2490
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:48,080
the council and mayor and finance

2491
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,600
committee, but for the public to see

2492
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,320
these documents. So they can see out

2493
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,520
there in column J, column K, this is

2494
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,280
what this is because as we have

2495
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,000
discovered the account description col

2496
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,120
line is not always very accurate.

2497
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,400
>> It rarely is.

2498
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,239
>> This is what this is.

2499
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:10,560
>> Okay. So, you know, some of these

2500
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,199
though, like right there. So, line 209

2501
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:15,120
4410

2502
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,920
uh.72, right? 580,000 principal. So, if

2503
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,800
you slide over, uh we're budgeting

2504
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,800
61,000. That's that's a loan repayment.

2505
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:27,920
>> That one you don't doesn't need

2506
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:28,560
explanation.

2507
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,960
>> But, but what's 580,000?

2508
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,760
>> That is the the the the bond.

2509
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:34,320
>> What bond

2510
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,239
>> that was taken out. So, you're wanting

2511
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:38,400
what is the bond?

2512
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:38,960
road bond.

2513
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,960
>> Yeah. If I'm a brand new road bond

2514
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,320
>> city resident that wants to look at this

2515
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,880
and I go, "What's 580,000?" It could

2516
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:50,239
just say there city road bond 2020

2517
01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:51,600
principal remaining or principal

2518
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,280
payments for this year.

2519
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,560
>> Thank you. That's what I need.

2520
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,520
>> Here's one thing. So when we run the

2521
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,629
reports,

2522
01:30:00,639 --> 01:30:03,920
» we've always created these for you,

2523
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,280
>> right? Um

2524
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:06,880
>> these are breakout reports. These are

2525
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,000
break well they're breakout reports as I

2526
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,520
went in and clicked on each one and

2527
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,280
pulled them out and extrapolated it and

2528
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:14,239
all that.

2529
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:16,639
>> Yeah, these are in here. And I will look

2530
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:18,880
I'll work with Polaris to see if we

2531
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,840
can't get a better breakout.

2532
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,320
>> And it may be as I'm thinking through it

2533
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,000
support on accounting systems there is a

2534
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,480
sub description when I doubleclick on

2535
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:32,239
the account the chart of accounts to

2536
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:36,159
give us that and getting that out into

2537
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:39,760
this format may be difficult.

2538
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:40,880
Um, yeah.

2539
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,840
>> So, finding some way that

2540
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,360
>> there's some way that the public can

2541
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,360
have access even if it's not all shown

2542
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,280
on one document.

2543
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:50,800
>> Well, and I'm happy.

2544
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,120
>> So, just a question, Ben, on those notes

2545
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,840
and and column J. Are those things you

2546
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,600
added after the fact or does that

2547
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,840
>> those are myself, Ted, Jody?

2548
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:00,639
>> Okay.

2549
01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:02,480
>> Predominantly column J is

2550
01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:04,000
>> it's not coming from the system. It's

2551
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,000
not stored in the system. No, this was

2552
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,719
me for the purpose of the budget

2553
01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:09,440
process.

2554
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:10,239
>> Sure.

2555
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:10,719
>> Um,

2556
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:11,840
>> that makes sense.

2557
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,239
>> I also don't, like I said, I I don't

2558
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:17,280
want this document necessarily

2559
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,760
uh easily accessible by the public right

2560
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,760
now because it's a working draft.

2561
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,920
>> So, it's not a final. When the final,

2562
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,040
we'll we'll put it out

2563
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,560
>> and I know I'm on the record here and

2564
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,470
that's fine.

2565
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:35,199
I don't necessarily need every single

2566
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:37,360
expenditure

2567
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,760
uh Monday Night Quarterback, right, by

2568
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,040
everybody who's got a platform

2569
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,719
>> axe to grind.

2570
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:47,440
>> Um and so that's kind of another reason

2571
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:50,639
that there are a higher level

2572
01:31:50,639 --> 01:31:52,480
categories.

2573
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:55,520
Um but I do also want to be as

2574
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,040
transparent as possible. Um, I spend a

2575
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,600
great deal of my time right now just

2576
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,239
trying to answer a lot of questions by

2577
01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:06,159
anybody with one and I'm always going to

2578
01:32:06,159 --> 01:32:08,239
be happy to do that.

2579
01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:09,920
>> Well, I think having that out there

2580
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,679
would help even the council because even

2581
01:32:11,679 --> 01:32:19,199
as we're going through asking Janet, knew the answers less than she

2582
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:21,040
there's more times she couldn't answer a

2583
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,320
question than she could.

2584
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,159
>> Well, because it was what what is

2585
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:25,360
everything in there? And I'm like, I

2586
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,159
don't know what every

2587
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:28,000
>> but if all of those things were lined

2588
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,840
out to say that's what principal sale

2589
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,520
use tax revenue refunding bond is,

2590
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:33,840
>> but

2591
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,679
>> we wouldn't have to spend 20 minutes

2592
01:32:35,679 --> 01:32:36,880
hunting this down every time that

2593
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,800
question asked

2594
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,320
doesn't make any sense.

2595
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:40,800
>> Amen.

2596
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,639
>> I have a butt because people already

2597
01:32:42,639 --> 01:32:45,280
think that our budget is way too complex

2598
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,280
and if we get a ton of ton more detail,

2599
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,120
it's going to make it even more complex.

2600
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:50,960
I mean, I'm just saying we have that

2601
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,679
complaint. We had candidates who

2602
01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:55,199
couldn't understand the budget and they

2603
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:58,320
said it was and I agree it took me a

2604
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,320
while and I don't still don't know I

2605
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,800
don't know complete detail of what goes

2606
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,960
into every category necessarily.

2607
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,320
>> I think the biggest thing is is

2608
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,639
currently without a finance director

2609
01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:10,080
nobody knows the answers to these

2610
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,960
questions.

2611
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,920
>> They they do. If if Lori was here she

2612
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,480
could give you the answer. Jody does.

2613
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:21,360
>> Okay. So for purposes of well let let me

2614
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,280
maybe phrase it that way this way then

2615
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,560
if we're going to have a finance

2616
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,239
committee meeting we need somebody that

2617
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:28,880
knows the finances present

2618
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,960
>> with all due respect to Janet.

2619
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,159
>> Well um having Lori or Jod here would be

2620
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:36,320
very helpful since Chris is not

2621
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,360
>> well and another aspect of it is compile

2622
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,600
your questions right and we can get you

2623
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,280
the answers. I've been writing I've been

2624
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:44,239
making notes,

2625
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:46,480
>> right? So, we can still get you all the

2626
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:49,600
answers because I I wanted this because

2627
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,199
I thought, you know, if I give this all

2628
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:52,960
to you guys in a week in advance, right?

2629
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,360
And then you guys can sit there and then

2630
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,480
we get here and then it's it's more of a

2631
01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:02,480
Q&A. Um,

2632
01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:03,840
and we could do the same thing on the

2633
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,159
back end, right? And so, and I still had

2634
01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:07,520
to figure out and timing and all that

2635
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:08,080
fun stuff

2636
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,679
>> cuz we still have till June. Like, we're

2637
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:10,239
not

2638
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:11,840
>> we're way ahead of the ball on this.

2639
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:12,639
Yeah.

2640
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:15,600
>> Um because I do, and I want this very

2641
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,000
clear, I do want you guys asking all the

2642
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,280
questions. I want you to know that we'll

2643
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,880
get you the answers. Um and we will

2644
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,320
never have another finance director

2645
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,800
under my administration. We will have a

2646
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:34,080
bookkeeper. We will have But we we are

2647
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,639
the smallest city with a finance

2648
01:34:36,639 --> 01:34:39,040
director. Spanish Fork just two years

2649
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,400
ago finally got a finance director

2650
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,239
um due to the complexities of what they

2651
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:44,719
were doing.

2652
01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:48,320
>> I didn't just answer my question, Jenn.

2653
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,719
>> Oh, good. Oh, really?

2654
01:34:50,719 --> 01:34:52,560
>> Was Chris's termination voluntary or

2655
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,159
involuntary?

2656
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:58,560
>> I said that I couldn't employee.

2657
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:04,310
>> Yes.

2658
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,320
» Involuntary. Well, I think the next step

2659
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:11,750
then is um probably

2660
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,280
we've got to have budgets done by when

2661
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,600
are your deadlines?

2662
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,159
>> I have those. Did I email those to you a

2663
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:20,800
while ago?

2664
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:21,920
>> The deadlines.

2665
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,280
>> Mhm. The budget process.

2666
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:24,639
>> There was there was a there's a

2667
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:25,679
timeline.

2668
01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:28,239
>> I will dig that up. Add that to your

2669
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:28,480
notes.

2670
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:30,000
>> If you did, I don't remember it.

2671
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,760
>> Okay. I'll I'll get it. I have the full

2672
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,239
timeline broken out when the public

2673
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:36,320
hearings are, the council meetings, all

2674
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:37,840
>> I have it somewhere. I have it, don't I?

2675
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,520
>> I wrote it all down, documented it, and

2676
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:40,800
threw it away.

2677
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,120
>> So, when would you like us to meet next?

2678
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,950
Do you think

2679
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,880
» as soon as you guys would like to

2680
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,320
because we will get you all the

2681
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,239
questions that you generate from this

2682
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:55,760
meeting plus whatever you email to us.

2683
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,440
I'll get you all those answers.

2684
01:35:57,440 --> 01:35:59,600
>> What do you think? And then

2685
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,440
>> what do you think?

2686
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:05,040
>> Well, when we started, we started going

2687
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,719
down line by line asking a lot of

2688
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:08,080
questions. Jen's like, "We don't have

2689
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,600
time to go through all of those."

2690
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,440
>> Well, I just said, "I can't do all these

2691
01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:12,639
pages because we'll be here."

2692
01:36:12,639 --> 01:36:14,159
>> And she didn't know the answers to a lot

2693
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:16,880
of them. Um, fair enough. And so we

2694
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,560
said, "Well, what were the instructions

2695
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,639
that Ben gave us to do?" So then we

2696
01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:22,880
looked at just the areas that Ben wanted

2697
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:23,520
us to look at.

2698
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,440
>> You went through the blue column, right?

2699
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:27,120
>> We did. And there was only a small

2700
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:28,480
handful of them as opposed to

2701
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:30,800
>> two of them were

2702
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,040
uh wages

2703
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,000
>> payroll related.

2704
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,920
>> All of them I think were payroll ones

2705
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,520
that you had noted for us to look at.

2706
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,159
>> Yeah. On this tab and then the entire

2707
01:36:40,159 --> 01:36:41,520
variable

2708
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,159
>> request. Right. Most of So the way I

2709
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:47,119
structured this was I wanted to not go

2710
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:48,639
line by line in the council meeting or

2711
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:50,639
we would have been there forever.

2712
01:36:50,639 --> 01:36:55,440
>> Uh there's the fixed costs I call them. I'm

2713
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:57,199
using accounting terms for

2714
01:36:57,199 --> 01:36:59,600
non-accounting purposes. Fixed costs

2715
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,440
that are locked down. We're obligated to

2716
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:01,840
pay that

2717
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,199
>> like the interest expense that was

2718
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:05,280
approved and decided years ago.

2719
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:05,920
>> We're we're bound.

2720
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,119
>> We can't say we don't like that. We

2721
01:37:07,119 --> 01:37:08,400
don't want to pay it.

2722
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,400
>> You know, it's our transfer station

2723
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,400
dues. Uh animal show. I just carved all

2724
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,239
those out and threw them over here. So

2725
01:37:16,239 --> 01:37:17,600
that on the council meeting, we went

2726
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,320
through the variable requests. Variable

2727
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,199
meaning the council has the opinion of

2728
01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:24,719
whether we do them or not. Yeah,

2729
01:37:24,719 --> 01:37:28,080
>> I included snow plowing in there.

2730
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,119
>> It's high priority, but that way what my

2731
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:34,080
goal was is I wanted the council to

2732
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,880
dictate the financial priorities of the

2733
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,800
city. In the past, the financial

2734
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,560
priorities of the city had been

2735
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,920
presented to the council with similar

2736
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,480
questions you guys have raised today.

2737
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:54,000
And we were kind of instructed to I'm being probably too up transparent

2738
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:55,520
right now for a public meeting, but

2739
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,239
we're going after it anyway.

2740
01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:01,280
We were given enough information

2741
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,239
to feel mostly good with our vote. I'm

2742
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:06,000
speaking for myself as a former council

2743
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,159
member, but not enough to actually know

2744
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:11,600
where we really were.

2745
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:12,880
>> It was a mystery.

2746
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,600
>> I wanted the council to dictate the

2747
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,400
priorities of the purse.

2748
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,800
My job as the chief executive of our

2749
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,800
city is to execute the priorities the

2750
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,760
council demands,

2751
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,040
not to dictate the priorities, have them

2752
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,639
incit and then me execute it. I am

2753
01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:37,280
trying my best to divest

2754
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,719
all usurped authority

2755
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:43,119
by the executive

2756
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:45,440
to the council. supposed to be a council

2757
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:48,719
strong mayor weak setup, but it hasn't

2758
01:38:48,719 --> 01:38:51,199
been that way. The mayors have kind of

2759
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:53,520
dictated

2760
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,199
uh in the past

2761
01:38:55,199 --> 01:38:56,239
>> where the council has asked for

2762
01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:57,520
something and the mayor just says no,

2763
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:58,239
I'm not going to do that.

2764
01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:00,000
>> So my question then is when do we meet

2765
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,080
again?

2766
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,239
When when when

2767
01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:07,760
is the budget due?

2768
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,960
>> The budget due is in

2769
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,159
I think it's the end of May.

2770
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:15,520
is when it is the final.

2771
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,440
>> So, we should probably meet in a month.

2772
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:20,560
>> Yeah. So, so we've given some direction

2773
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,679
back on what notes Janet's taken. Those

2774
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:26,480
will go to you, mayor, or to the

2775
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:28,080
>> probably all three.

2776
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,800
>> They'll go to me. I'll then input them

2777
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,639
and I'll get you guys answers.

2778
01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:33,199
>> Okay.

2779
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:37,920
>> Um with Lori and J or Jod. Um

2780
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,800
like the 690 that I'm incompetent on our

2781
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,239
software here. I know I've asked the

2782
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:46,320
question as well. I know there's a

2783
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,159
logical reason as to why it's there.

2784
01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:49,440
>> Well, it's just wild that it

2785
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:51,119
>> it's a grant of some sort.

2786
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:54,719
>> 84 84 87 90690.

2787
01:39:54,719 --> 01:39:56,800
>> I feel like Ted explained that and I

2788
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,400
don't remember what he said about it.

2789
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,400
>> I'm not sure if it's the UD do grant.

2790
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,239
So, the community development team

2791
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:04,719
that's been working on the general plan,

2792
01:40:04,719 --> 01:40:06,400
>> but that doesn't see I think that was

2793
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,800
100 grand. So, it wasn't the 690. That's

2794
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,639
the piece I'm not sure of.

2795
01:40:10,639 --> 01:40:12,960
>> Okay. But it's a grant of some sort

2796
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,400
there. And I just need to figure out

2797
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:15,199
which one it is.

2798
01:40:15,199 --> 01:40:17,360
>> But this is an expenditure. So

2799
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:18,880
>> correct, it's the expenditure of the

2800
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,000
grant funds.

2801
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:20,320
>> Okay.

2802
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,960
>> And so the revenue is up in the revenue

2803
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,239
section.

2804
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,719
>> Um but I will go through that. So to

2805
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:28,960
answer your question in an extremely

2806
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,239
bloated long formed way, I apologize.

2807
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:34,560
I think my recommendation would be you

2808
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,480
guys meet again soon, uh, 2 3 weeks or

2809
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:42,400
so, and then plan to meet again after I

2810
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:47,520
receive the final, um, tax rate that the

2811
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,800
county assigns to us that way. Cuz right

2812
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,920
now, these revenues,

2813
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:53,199
>> you have some real numbers.

2814
01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:56,320
>> These revenues are all estimates, right?

2815
01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:00,080
They're conservative, lowbal estimates.

2816
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,040
Uh you'll probably notice that

2817
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,719
I have really only put over the tax

2818
01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:09,199
collected number from what we've already

2819
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:13,119
collected this year across and over

2820
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,119
>> past year collections.

2821
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:16,800
>> There'll be some come in.

2822
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,440
>> Um and so I'm trying to go nice and

2823
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:20,800
conservative so that we don't have any

2824
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,400
big gotchas that we have to then cut

2825
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:22,960
stuff.

2826
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,639
>> We every year we have to do this. We

2827
01:41:24,639 --> 01:41:25,920
don't know what the revenue is going to

2828
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,920
be, but we have to figure out the budget

2829
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,199
best we can. So, so I like the way if

2830
01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:33,199
we'd have read if we'd had Mike read

2831
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:34,719
your instructions first, we would have

2832
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:37,920
saved a lot of time. But so the next

2833
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,520
meeting, the purpose of that meeting

2834
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,119
will be to what? What will we be

2835
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:44,320
reviewing and helping to give input on?

2836
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,440
>> Uh your guys' in my opinion, my

2837
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:49,119
recommendation would be for whatever you

2838
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:51,520
guys study and find more questions on.

2839
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,400
>> Okay. Okay. Um, I'd be more than happy

2840
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,159
to also um request Lori not come in one

2841
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:02,400
day um on time, come a few hours late

2842
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,159
and then plan to come and join your

2843
01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:06,080
finance committee meeting.

2844
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,520
>> Um,

2845
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,159
>> and that way you'd have that responsive.

2846
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:11,840
>> Yeah.

2847
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,360
>> Well, that's good. So, I would think we

2848
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,840
ought to meet probably the end of April.

2849
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,800
>> But is our intent then to go through the

2850
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,440
entire budget? I would say go through

2851
01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:22,639
your questions.

2852
01:42:22,639 --> 01:42:25,119
>> Well, so many of our questions is we

2853
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:27,040
don't know what this means.

2854
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,560
>> I think we can submit those questions.

2855
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,080
>> Submit the questions to me.

2856
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:30,480
>> Yeah.

2857
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,800
>> And we'll go through them. I want the

2858
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,040
question I want your questions cuz I

2859
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:36,960
want to optimize the value of your time

2860
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,800
because you guys are are being paid even

2861
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,960
less than me, which is really sad on

2862
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,280
your part. Sorry, guys.

2863
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,800
But really what you're looking at is I

2864
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,480
want your questions not to be what's in

2865
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:51,360
this

2866
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,000
>> send their email or just

2867
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,760
>> Well, I'm going to send you the budget

2868
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,360
that the mayor sent me with your

2869
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,119
>> You have the You have the hard copy.

2870
01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:00,400
>> I'll send that over to you.

2871
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,080
>> The hard copy didn't match that. So, I'm

2872
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,119
going to wait for the electronic

2873
01:43:03,119 --> 01:43:04,239
version. You can

2874
01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:07,600
>> So, it matches just the notes got cut

2875
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,280
off is is what didn't match.

2876
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:10,880
>> Some of the notes were different. Some

2877
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,440
of the numbers and the shading of boxes

2878
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,840
didn't match up.

2879
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,280
>> That's disconcerting because I printed

2880
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,400
it from this document.

2881
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,239
>> Yeah, I think they did match.

2882
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:21,600
>> Well, either way, you'll have this

2883
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:22,239
document.

2884
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:23,920
>> Yeah, I prefer electronic documents

2885
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:24,400
anyway.

2886
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,159
>> Yeah, I'll send them to you.

2887
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:31,119
>> Ask your questions that are uh super

2888
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:34,639
high level. What is in this $690,000?

2889
01:43:34,639 --> 01:43:36,320
Right? And then I can start breaking

2890
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,280
those things out um for each of you. And

2891
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:40,800
that way you don't have to ask that in

2892
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,840
this meeting unless you still have

2893
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,159
questions as to the substance. I want

2894
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:47,760
you to be able to ask substance

2895
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,000
questions instead of just inquiry

2896
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,480
questions um in your meeting next time.

2897
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:59,270
>> That makes sense. Perfect.

2898
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,639
» Tuesday night? Is that the best night

2899
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:03,199
for every

2900
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:05,199
>> It doesn't matter to me. I think I'm

2901
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:06,400
different for me.

2902
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,080
>> The the first because council's second

2903
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,000
and fourth.

2904
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,560
>> So what about May 5th?

2905
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:15,920
>> I think I'm okay.

2906
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,600
>> It is Cinco de Mayo, but I can have

2907
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:21,199
tacos first and then come here.

2908
01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:22,159
>> That's Tuesday.

2909
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:23,199
>> That's a Tuesday night.

2910
01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:24,800
>> I can do that. Tuesday is my only free

2911
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:25,440
evening.

2912
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:26,960
>> So Tuesday is a good night for you,

2913
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,520
Mike. Erin, are you good on that shift?

2914
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:30,080
>> Yeah.

2915
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,840
>> And Tim, you're good. Okay. Then we'll

2916
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:34,400
uh

2917
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:35,360
>> next meeting

2918
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,400
>> set our next meeting date for the 5th of

2919
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,239
May

2920
01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:42,960
7:00 right here. And if we could have

2921
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,800
Lori in here that would be

2922
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,560
>> it will have to be Lori instead of me

2923
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,040
>> and I can also plan to join if that I

2924
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:51,760
won't be here.

2925
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:53,280
>> You're not going to be here but

2926
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,360
>> but they can do it. It's fine.

2927
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,280
>> Is that so there's some sort of conflict

2928
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:58,960
of interest or just you're not available

2929
01:44:58,960 --> 01:44:59,520
that night?

2930
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:00,880
>> I'll be in Kawaii.

2931
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,480
>> Okay. There's a conflict of interest.

2932
01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:05,440
>> I didn't know if there was something

2933
01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:07,600
about council member and staff member

2934
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,000
can't be explaining finan I'll be in

2935
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:11,040
Kawaii.

2936
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:12,560
>> That was the same conflict of interest I

2937
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:16,239
had in the last council meeting.

2938
01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:21,199
>> Ray will in this meeting then

2939
01:45:21,199 --> 01:45:23,440
>> can you send this document also?

2940
01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:26,239
>> It's t

2941
01:45:26,239 --> 01:45:27,119
perfect. Thank you.

2942
01:45:27,119 --> 01:45:28,800
>> I'm I'll send you the whole document

2943
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,800
that I received. Thank you, sir.

2944
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,910
Awesome.

2945
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,000
You don't want the paper?

2946
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,790
>> I'll do it tonight.

2947
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:41,920
>> Thank you.

2948
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,480
>> Do you have Mike's email?

2949
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:45,040
>> Make sure you have

2950
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,040
>> I do. I have Mike's. You got my email,

2951
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,199
didn't you?

2952
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:50,000
>> Happy.

2953
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,080
>> Yes. Yes, I did. Setting this.

2954
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,600
>> Happy something. I can't. Happy dad.