1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Hey, did we change our internet 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,000 password? 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,760 >> Okay, sorry that we were a little late 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,960 there, Brian. I uh to be completely 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,880 candid, just lost track of time, looked 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,480 down at my watch and it was 5 till. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,119 So, but we're here 3 minutes after. I'm 8 00:00:21,119 --> 00:00:23,600 feeling pretty good about that. Um like 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,519 to welcome everybody to city council 10 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:29,439 meeting today, uh April 28th, 2026. Um 11 00:00:29,439 --> 00:00:31,359 we are actually going to start with our 12 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:35,120 work session. Uh number one considering 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,160 a petition from Northern Slope LLC 14 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:41,920 Summit Creek for the annexation of 5.36 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,559 acre portion of land associated with 16 00:00:44,559 --> 00:00:49,990 parcel 300770226 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,120 and the acceptance of a change in zoning 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,559 for said parcel of land. And that zoning 19 00:00:56,559 --> 00:00:58,399 is actually just a request to send it to 20 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:01,760 the planning commission. But Bucky, do 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,280 you have anything you want to present to 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,559 the council? 23 00:01:04,559 --> 00:01:08,880 >> So, there should be a map um should be a 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,960 map on your desk that looks like this. 25 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:14,320 So, the portion we're talking about is 26 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:17,119 this pink portion. 27 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:19,119 Um [clears throat] we've been working on 28 00:01:19,119 --> 00:01:21,680 this. We got our master plan reapproved 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,320 with the city I think in 2023 30 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:29,119 and uh we contemplated trying to get 31 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:32,320 this annexed from Elkridge into Wooden 32 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:34,320 Hills so we could develop it with our 33 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,920 last phase. Um we've been working on 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,400 this with Elkridge for a little over two 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,360 years now and I think we've I think 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,079 we've uh gone through their whole 37 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,079 process. I think they're agreable to 38 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:49,360 this now. That's that's my 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,280 understanding. And now they're waiting 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,040 for Woodland Hills to to approve it and 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,360 accept it if if they're willing so that 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,759 we can develop it. It would turn into 43 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:01,600 basically three lots as you can see on 44 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,759 the map. And uh um it's a lot easier for 45 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:07,439 us to develop that as part of moving 46 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:10,560 hills than than Elridge. It's it's impos 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,080 I don't know I guess technically not 48 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,760 impossible but it's it's difficult for 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,040 Oakidge to service those properties. So, that's kind of high level. I don't 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,720 know if if if uh anything I'm missing or 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,760 if you have any questions or anything. 52 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,599 >> What what were some of the concerns from 53 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:28,959 you mentioned a couple years to work 54 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:30,480 with Elidge. What were some of their 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,920 concerns about the annexation? 56 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,480 Um, so, uh, Loafer Canyon Road has had 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,040 some flooding, not from this, but I 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,400 think there's various, um, various areas 59 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,319 that have contributed to, um, to Loafer 60 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:52,080 Canyon getting flooded on when there's, 61 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,560 you know, heavy storms or runoff. And 62 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,000 so, what they tied to this was a lower 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,599 portion of our property. They wanted us 64 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:03,440 to increase the retention pond. And so 65 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,920 we significantly made some improvements 66 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:09,120 to to the current retention pond that we 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,440 have down there. And it took it took a 68 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 couple years to kind of come to that 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,239 agreement and conclusion and for us to 70 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:20,159 do the work and for them to accept it 71 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:20,720 and 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,800 >> so the work's complete. 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,840 >> Yeah. So 74 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,280 >> So did you do that work in good faith 75 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,879 that once complete that they would be 76 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:30,799 compliant to let you do it and then 77 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:32,959 >> Yeah. I mean truthfully whether whether 78 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:36,799 it gets approved or not I mean we don't want to be contributing to 79 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:38,640 >> flooding. So 80 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,040 >> okay 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,000 >> so we felt you know we felt like it was 82 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,440 just the right thing to do. 83 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,040 >> Yeah. Okay. So, it's just those three 84 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,360 parcels. 85 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,480 >> It's just a portion. 86 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,720 >> It's a portion of one parcel, but we 87 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 will request if the city will accept 88 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 this, our final plat will will seek 89 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,439 approval to turn that into three lots 90 00:03:59,439 --> 00:03:59,920 and that. 91 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,599 >> That's what I meant. The future that's 92 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,239 what your anticipation is by annexing 93 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:06,159 this in it will be those three 94 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:07,439 additional lots. 95 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,120 >> Yeah, correct. 96 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,879 One thing I failed to mention, this 97 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:12,720 property, this five acres is right on 98 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,680 the crest. 99 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,239 >> Yeah. 100 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:16,400 >> And so, I mean, it's [clears throat] 101 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,040 it's a steep hillside. We first sought 102 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,199 to let Elidge 103 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:23,840 uh move the entire parcel into Woodland 104 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,080 Hills, but they only wanted to do the 105 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,680 portion that we could develop. So, 106 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,720 I see. So even though you own the rest 107 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,960 of it at this point that's on the lower 108 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,960 part and you don't have plans for 109 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,320 development yet. 110 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,639 >> We have yeah current I mean we don't 111 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:44,960 have any plans to develop that that 112 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,440 portion. So 113 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,240 yeah 114 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,320 >> what would be the change in the lot 115 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,080 sizes of those three because right now 116 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,840 you've got one and a half sitting on 117 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,400 there about am I reading that right 118 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,720 >> or are those lots currently as you would 119 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,479 like to have them? Yeah, they're current 120 00:05:02,479 --> 00:05:03,199 they're showing 121 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:04,639 >> they're showing what you're looking for. 122 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:05,040 Okay. 123 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,639 >> Yeah, they're all a little over an acre. 124 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,520 The zoning are 119 which matches 125 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,800 >> the rest of the Okay. 126 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,600 >> Yeah. 127 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,199 >> I just wanted to make sure that that 128 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:14,800 wasn't your original plan and then the 129 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,880 eventics that you want to now take that 130 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,720 annex portion and make 131 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,080 >> additional ones in there. 132 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,919 >> See seems like from some of the other 133 00:05:21,919 --> 00:05:23,280 ones we've done that were on the border 134 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:26,960 that it's you know Woodland Hills it's 135 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,639 Woodland Hills roads to get to those 136 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:30,880 properties and to for fire and snow and 137 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,240 everything. So that's why they need to 138 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,919 be annexed in so that we could service 139 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:35,039 them, right? 140 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:35,520 >> Yeah. 141 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,440 >> Because otherwise, how how would 142 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,440 Elgridge get to them? 143 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 >> Yeah. 144 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,440 >> Um what are some of the engineering 145 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,440 I mean it's very steep, right? What were 146 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,120 some of the engineering complexities of 147 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,199 that you guys considered that would you 148 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:53,520 know obviously anytime you're building 149 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,360 on an edge of anything just ask some 150 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,039 folks up in Draper 151 00:05:57,039 --> 00:05:57,280 >> Yeah. 152 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:59,840 >> how that goes, right? So what are some 153 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,680 of the steps you've taken um from an 154 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,120 engineering perspective? 155 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,240 >> Yeah, so the build pads that will be on 156 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,720 our on our final plat and our final plat 157 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,479 will all be on natural soil. 158 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:13,039 >> Okay. 159 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:15,360 >> Where those lots you're talking about in 160 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,600 Draper, they were trying to build they 161 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,880 were their build path was a cross field 162 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,360 and that that was a bad idea from the 163 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,840 city and the developer. And the only 164 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,600 place we're showing a house has to be 165 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,240 built is all unnatural. So that's on the 166 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,960 very top flat part of the ridge where 167 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,120 it's buildable. So 168 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,080 >> yeah, we we have the same concern. We we 169 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,080 don't want to sell a property that is 170 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,520 going to where a house is going to be 171 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,800 built off a cliff. So um some of these 172 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,160 lots their backyard will be on that 173 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,039 steep edge, but no no build pad onto 174 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:54,319 that steep edge. Okay. 175 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:56,160 And in our conversations with Ilkage, 176 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,759 they [clears throat] they're okay with 177 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:00,479 this annexation. [snorts] 178 00:07:00,479 --> 00:07:03,120 Okay. 179 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,189 >> Ryan, do you have any questions? 180 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:09,199 » No, sir. 181 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:11,599 Okay. Steve, 182 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:16,400 >> no. No, I don't think so. Okay. Jerry, 183 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,800 >> no. Just uh because it's just an 184 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,720 annexation. We're not looking at the 185 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,880 site plan specifically or the roads or 186 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,280 anything. 187 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,639 >> It's just a matter of whether we want it 188 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,720 to come into wooden house. 189 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,319 >> Don't see anything. I mean, unless 190 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,720 there's any concerns from the fire chief 191 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,960 of having uh because that is a slope 192 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,520 with some some scrub oak if that's a 193 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,520 issue for the fire chief or not. 194 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,520 >> I think it is an issue 195 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,880 >> whether it's in our city [laughter] or 196 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,759 not. 197 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:42,240 >> Right. 198 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,160 >> Trees still exist. Ted, 199 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,560 >> a question. 200 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:56,550 Um yeah so we have requirements um 201 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,639 » requirements just complying with our 202 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:02,400 requirements and most others perfect 203 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,960 there's no other questions um I'm 204 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,879 actually going to move and see if we 205 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:08,720 can't I don't see anybody from three 206 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 bridges here right now so Jody am I okay 207 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,759 to skip to number three 208 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,680 >> yeah I don't know if we will see anyone 209 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,000 from three bridges agreeing. 210 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Are you a They didn't show up to the 211 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,319 finance commission meeting either. 212 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:23,919 >> Perfect. Okay. Well, I'm going to skip 213 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:27,680 then to uh number three since uh Zans is 214 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,599 here with us, Mark Anderson. Um and so 215 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:34,000 we are looking at a consideration for 216 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,479 adoption of a resolution authorizing the 217 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:40,399 insurance and sale of not more than $1.4 218 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:42,479 4 million 219 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:46,080 um aggregate principal amount for a 220 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,080 dedication of our sales and franchise 221 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,040 tax revenue bonds. Um and so Mark, you 222 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,800 want to come join us here and kind of 223 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,880 walk uh the council through what that 224 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,560 bond would look like? Uh 225 00:08:58,560 --> 00:08:59,279 >> you bet. 226 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:02,240 >> And just so everybody knows, this is for 227 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,680 phase four of the pavement management 228 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,680 plan. So, we have been discussing this 229 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:12,240 bond um actually all of the 2026 fiscal 230 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,080 year budget, which is the one we're 231 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,760 currently in. [clears throat] 232 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,640 >> Um and we actually built it into that 233 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,640 budget and then last council meeting 234 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,240 when we amended the budget, we actually 235 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,640 pulled this these funds out. Um but that 236 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,080 is what we're talking about. 237 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,440 >> Well, first of all, it's a pleasure to 238 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,279 be here with the council. It's been 239 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:32,880 probably five years since I've been 240 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,360 here. uh and uh what you have before you 241 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,360 tonight is what we call a parameters 242 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,279 resolution with some associated 243 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:42,800 exhibits. 244 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,839 The parameters resolution is 245 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:48,640 the beginning uh process of issuing 246 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,399 bonds 247 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:53,680 uh under state law and within the 248 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,839 parameters resolution it defines the 249 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:59,200 project as being the maintenance of road 250 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,440 roads. Um, it sets parameters as far as 251 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,279 the borrowing. The maximum borrowing 252 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:07,200 amount for the bond would be $1.4 253 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 million. The maximum term that the bonds 254 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,600 will be repaid over is 10 years. The 255 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,800 maximum interest rate is 6%. 256 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,560 But in reality, we expect a rate 257 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:24,000 uh probably in the high threes or low 4% 258 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,560 rate. It's a small bond, so there may 259 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:28,959 not be as many interested purchasers, 260 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:31,519 but I'm optimistic that we can find a 261 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:37,760 purchaser for that. Um, and uh, it also 262 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,760 uh, designates the mayor, the mayor 263 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,000 prom, and the city recorder as 264 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 designated officers that have the 265 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,720 ability to make the decision on the 266 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,240 final purchaser in terms of the bond. Uh 267 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,480 what the process is is uh after the 268 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,640 council adopts the parameters resolution 269 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,120 and this resolution it also includes the 270 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 scheduling of public hearing which would 271 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,839 be on May 26th. 272 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:07,040 Um and then we would anticipate putting 273 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,880 together a a bid package that we would a 274 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,480 request for bids that we would send out 275 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,040 to banks that would purchase this bond 276 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,560 for their private investment portfolios. 277 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,440 um and would expect bids back 278 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,360 approximately on the 1st of July and 279 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,560 then close the bonds on July 15th is 280 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:29,279 when the funds would would be delivered 281 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:31,279 to the city. 282 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:33,040 >> Um 283 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,880 and that's pretty much it. 284 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,440 >> Any questions for Mark? 285 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,519 the interest [clears throat] rates 286 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:42,560 obviously those are going to be 287 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,320 negotiated and and very what are some of 288 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,600 the things that we should I mean you 289 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,920 mentioned six maybe a little bit less 290 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,600 than that what's a what's out there 291 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,200 right now I know things can change 292 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,880 >> well I would expect something around 4% 293 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,839 give or take 20 basis points or 210 of a 294 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:00,880 percent of interest uh based on what the 295 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,040 current market is the market's been 296 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,720 pretty volatile since the beginning of 297 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,720 the Iran war we saw rates jump up uh 298 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,880 probably about 4/10en of a percent in 299 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,200 just a matter of a few weeks. We've seen 300 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,600 some of that uh uh 301 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,000 come back uh in a little bit lower 302 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 rates, but it's still kind of a volatile 303 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,800 situation pending any kind of clear 304 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,800 outcome as to what the the oil situation 305 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,920 in the world might turn out to be. 306 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,519 Um 307 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:36,800 uh the 6% 308 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,760 some banks will bid this with a fixed 309 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:48,399 rate for all years. So say four 4.4% for each maturity. You'll have 10 310 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,079 principal payments over the life of the 311 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:54,480 bonds. But uh Bank of U which owns your 312 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,839 excise tax bonds for the class C roads 313 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:00,079 bids what we call serialized coupons. 314 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:03,360 Each maturity has its own interest rate, 315 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,720 a unique interest rate and they go say 316 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,720 from three and a half to maybe four and 317 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,519 a half or four to five or or something 318 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:14,079 like that. So we give ourselves a lot of 319 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:16,480 latitude there but we certainly don't 320 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,839 expect to see a rate in this what we 321 00:13:19,839 --> 00:13:22,480 call a true interest cost in the 6% 322 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,120 range. 323 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,000 >> Okay. 324 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,040 >> Thank you. 325 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,320 >> Did you say 10-year term? Was that 326 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,200 right? 10ear term. 327 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,040 >> Correct. And part of that's just driven 328 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,360 by the nature of the improvements. You 329 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,320 really don't want to have a bond 330 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,399 outstanding longer than the the life of 331 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:37,360 the improvements. 332 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,279 >> Agreed. 333 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:42,399 >> So, so we're talking about phase two or 334 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:45,200 phase three of the road. This is for 335 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,440 >> Okay. But, but this doesn't take care of 336 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,600 the water issue either. So, what does it do to our potential our 337 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,959 future for getting a loan um credit? 338 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:56,800 Because we've got another project that's 339 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,959 big and bigger, too. and I've assisted 340 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:00,720 with a couple of division of drinking 341 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,560 water loans that the city entered into 342 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,600 in 2020 and 2021. I think the 21 343 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,839 issuance kind of superseded the first 344 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:10,800 issuance. They offered another several 345 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,560 hundred,000 to complete the project. Um 346 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,199 the the revenue pledge for water bonds 347 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:19,600 would be the net revenues of your water 348 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 system. So, what you're pledging for 349 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,360 this bond is sales tax and franchise 350 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,000 tax, which includes your your uh 351 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,360 util the electric or the 352 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,880 >> cell phones, and taxes on utilities, gas 353 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,160 and electric, 354 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,920 >> Amazon purchases. 355 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 >> Well, that's part of the sales taxes. 356 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Uh so that's what you're pledging as the 357 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,320 repayment source for this bond. You 358 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,639 would pledge typically pledge the water 359 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:56,560 system revenues for the repayment of a 360 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,760 water bond. 361 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,720 >> Okay. Yep. So this one's coming the 362 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,440 general fund. That bond will have to 363 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,519 come from the enterprise fund. 364 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:06,000 >> Yeah. 365 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,120 >> Okay. And I just wanted to um I I 366 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,480 appreciate that you gave us this 367 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,120 calendar of events of of the life of of 368 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,920 going to July 15th. That's helpful. Um 369 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,079 and just to remind our residents that 370 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:21,040 the reason that we're doing this um is 371 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,040 because we did not want to raise taxes 372 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,959 to have to pay for a road and this is 373 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:28,000 more consistent um and reliable to get 374 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,480 the roads done in a timely manner and 375 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,440 with a consistent cost. 376 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,279 >> Got you. 377 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:36,800 I think to answer your question though, 378 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,279 Steve, also is is this would I believe, 379 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,120 and Mark, you can comment on this, but 380 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,389 this does tap us out fairly 381 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:49,040 » quite a bit. 382 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,720 >> You don't have much powder left with 383 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,399 that revenue pledge. 384 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:55,519 >> You do have a 2019 sales and franchise 385 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,839 tax bond that I think matures in like 386 00:15:57,839 --> 00:16:00,800 2030 or 2032. 387 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,959 that'll give you some more capacity, but 388 00:16:02,959 --> 00:16:04,639 you're still, you know, four or six 389 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:06,399 years out until you really have the 390 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:08,000 ability to issue additional bonds with 391 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,160 this same revenue pledge. 392 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,279 >> So, so just just as a group, is this 393 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:16,720 going to stall the ability for us to 394 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,480 make the waterline improvements down the 395 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,079 road with that? 396 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:22,880 >> Two different 397 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,079 entities almost. 398 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:25,519 >> So, the water would then be paying for 399 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,440 the road improvements in that too. 400 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,880 >> Yeah. That whole package would come from 401 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,360 there. 402 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,440 >> Okay. and we can help you look at what 403 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,680 your coverage is on the bond payments. 404 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,839 Usually, you're required to have net 405 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:40,000 revenues, revenues less operating 406 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,639 expenses excluding depreciation, at 407 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:46,320 least 125% of what your total bond 408 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,040 payments are. So, if you had net 409 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,839 revenues of 1.25 million, you could have 410 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:53,839 annual bond payments of up to a million 411 00:16:53,839 --> 00:16:57,920 dollars. Okay? So, but we can help you 412 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,959 look at, you know, what your what kind 413 00:17:00,959 --> 00:17:03,360 of revenues you may have to generate to 414 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,120 meet the coverage for whatever amount of 415 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:09,120 money that you may look to borrow. 416 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:11,280 >> I I think I mean, if you do the math, 417 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,720 it's almost 9%, right? The the monthly 418 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,600 annual or the sorry, the annual payment 419 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,079 is almost representation of like 9% of 420 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:21,839 our total budget every year to to make 421 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:25,280 the payment back. So, it's 422 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,319 significant for a small community. 423 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:29,919 >> Yeah. 424 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:31,840 >> Don't don't forget the thing that we're 425 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,120 saving here is we're able to do the work 426 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:37,520 at now's pricing. 427 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,720 >> Um we talked about the increases in in 428 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,960 asphalt and things like that. Those are 429 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,039 going to go up much higher than the 430 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:46,480 interest rate that we're looking at. 431 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,840 This is the reason that we're doing 432 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,919 this. True. 433 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:53,280 >> And that that is the the big buy for for 434 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,840 doing the bond and and even though we're 435 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,640 kind of extending out ourselves. Um 436 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,320 we've got the emergency funds that we're 437 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,799 still planning and things like that. And again, when it comes to it, we're 438 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:07,200 only going to bond out exactly what we 439 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,720 need. This is this is the map. Um so it 440 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,320 might give us a little bit of wiggle room or however we decide to do 441 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,919 that in the end. Um, the only thing I 442 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:20,240 have just to make clear and play the 443 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,799 politician here, the way I'm reading 444 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:26,000 this is this authorizes 445 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,320 us to make this happen and actually do 446 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,600 the signatures to make the bond happen. 447 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,160 And we still are going to have once we 448 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,799 get the bids back, we have the 449 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:39,280 opportunity to send that to our finance 450 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,000 department and or our finance committee 451 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,600 and and go through that with a fine 452 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,200 tooth comb before we actually sign on 453 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,520 the dotted line. And it's not actually 454 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,520 signing us up for anything. 455 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,480 >> Hey Brian, 456 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:50,880 >> no. 457 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,600 >> Yes. Just to clarify, uh, we already 458 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,240 have the bids and have it, um, given a 459 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,840 contract to a contractor and this did 460 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,640 get sent to the finance committee. Um, 461 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,440 >> no, I'm talking about the bond. Wouldn't 462 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,400 have for the bond itself when we signed 463 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,960 with the lending agency. 464 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,160 >> What? Sorry. 465 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,760 It's when we sign for the lending 466 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,240 agency, when we actually sign the 467 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,559 paperwork to get the money that we're 468 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:23,600 not, this doesn't this doesn't lock us 469 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,600 into anything. We're going to get bids 470 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,000 from different lenders, so to speak, to 471 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,600 uh to fund this bond. And this is going 472 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,760 to this we're still going to have way 473 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,799 I'm reading it, we're still going to 474 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:38,240 have the time to look at each one of 475 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,400 those and decide what which one we want 476 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,760 to go with. And that will give time for 477 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,120 the finance committee to have their 478 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,280 weigh in and the mayor and the city 479 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,039 council and that type of thing. Is that 480 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:48,400 correct? 481 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,039 >> Well, let me let me address that. 482 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,919 >> The parameters resolution 483 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:56,160 actually authorizes the mayor or the 484 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,200 mayor pro prom and the city recorder to 485 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,919 make the decision regarding what they 486 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:04,080 determine to be the most the best bid 487 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,840 for the city. 488 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,840 uh it doesn't mean the city doesn't 489 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,760 can't have some method that that the uh 490 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,200 the mayor wants to reach out to the 491 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,640 council and say this is what we've 492 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,760 gotten and this is what we're thinking. 493 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,799 Uh but it it doesn't necessarily require 494 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:23,200 another formal action by the council. 495 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,679 This this just gives 496 00:20:25,679 --> 00:20:27,840 the mayor and the recorder and the may 497 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,000 or the mayor prom the ability to act 498 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,640 within these parameters on the issuance 499 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 of the bond. And if there's any any uh 500 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,400 thoughts about borrowing less than $1.4 501 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,159 million, I'd want to know that before 502 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:42,320 the bids are sent out. We can modify 503 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,600 that a little bit. Uh 504 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,559 but uh that would be my preference. just 505 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,039 >> just to concur with what Brian said as a 506 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:56,559 former city manager. Uh if you can 507 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,120 borrow at a lower cost than inflation on 508 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,600 road repairs, you're money ahead because 509 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,240 deferring road maintenance turns uh you 510 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,840 know simple maintenance into road 511 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:12,240 rebuilds and and uh uh or uh uh rotomill 512 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,559 and overlays and things like that. So 513 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:16,799 the the cost of doing nothing is much 514 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:20,159 more than just the the cost of interest 515 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:20,559 and 516 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:21,440 >> and reminder 517 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,240 >> inflation. 518 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,320 >> We had the finance committee do a study 519 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,480 on inflation on asphalt and those 520 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,799 things. And it's it's far cheaper to 521 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,039 borrow the money and do it now than to 522 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,240 pay the the price of inflation and labor 523 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,280 and everything else. So 524 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,360 >> this is about a million dollars cheaper 525 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,400 this option. 526 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,240 >> Yeah, we did we did do it the finance 527 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,400 committee did do a study on it. They did 528 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,120 some research. So 529 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,240 >> when we get those offers in, we can 530 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,080 >> we can review them through the finance 531 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,159 committee and everybody else. I get that 532 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:55,440 it authorizes the mayor, mayor prom and 533 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,280 then the city recorder, but we can send 534 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,000 those in in the act of transparency to 535 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,919 the finance committee and say, "Can you 536 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:05,600 guys review this one? This is the one we 537 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760 think is the best and and what do you 538 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,280 think?" And they can point out anything 539 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,720 that we might not see because they're 540 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,880 really good at what they do. 541 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,520 I will tell you that some of the uh 542 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,320 bids will be uh subject to change if you 543 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,760 don't accept them on the day that 544 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,799 they're offered. Subject to change, you 545 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,679 know, of market indexes of upwards and 546 00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:34,240 downwards in so usually we have the 547 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,159 acceptance on the same day as the bids 548 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:37,360 that are received. 549 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,280 >> Yeah, we'll probably I'll probably ping 550 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,960 each of you call you. um you know share 551 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,760 with you and then we'll have talked with 552 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Mark um and kind of made that decision. 553 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,039 Um we've kind of gone through the whole 554 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:52,799 process of whether we should do this, 555 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,760 what the plan is. Um we've already got 556 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,520 the contracts in place with Kilgore. Um 557 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,880 so we're a little bit further down the 558 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520 road. One other thing to remember, uh, 559 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,919 Brian, to your comment of the safety 560 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:09,120 funds, um, the safety fund conversation 561 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,520 when we discussed that, um, you know, 562 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,240 months ago is we wanted to have, you 563 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,120 know, around $250,000 in the bank at all 564 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,880 times. That was if we decided to go with 565 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,080 the funding option for this lending path 566 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,120 which pulled savings out to then turn 567 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,280 around and pay off that other bond you 568 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,640 were talking about. Correct. 569 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,159 >> That was one option 570 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:36,559 >> and we did not opt for that option from 571 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:37,679 your council. 572 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:39,919 >> Yeah. Basically, you've got a bond 573 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:43,039 that's two some point something percent 574 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,919 interest. And to pay off a a bond only 575 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:47,840 to borrow more at a higher interest cost 576 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,080 doesn't really make sense to me. 577 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,200 >> 100%. So, we my long story short, we 578 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,960 have more than the 250,000 in savings. 579 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Um, I don't know what that exact number 580 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960 is off the top of my head, but it's it's 581 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,640 still substantially higher than that 582 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,480 250,000. I thought we were spending down 583 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,360 and and getting a lower bond because we 584 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,919 were spending down on that on that. 585 00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:14,000 >> We'll be using some of it. Yes. 586 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,679 >> Okay. I just want to make sure. But and I'm surprised if Are we not getting 587 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:22,240 multiple offers on this? 588 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,159 >> We will. We will be getting multiple 589 00:24:24,159 --> 00:24:27,039 offers, but the time frame we would not 590 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,760 have time to send that to the finance 591 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,080 committee. It's kind of a here's your 592 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,080 options. Do you want to proceed or not? 593 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320 And we have to make that decision. 594 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,279 >> Hence, this resolution grants 595 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,200 >> myself. 596 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Yeah. Is there standard verbage that we 597 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,840 can kind of I mean, if it's standard 598 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,600 verbage that everybody uses, I just 599 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,360 don't want to have something in the fine 600 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,600 print of whatever we sign that's going 601 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,440 to bite us that we didn't know about 602 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,120 because we didn't have time to read it 603 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,320 and and review it. and we'll explain to 604 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,440 you that the bids that are received, the 605 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,520 things that you need to be mindful of. 606 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,919 One of the things that we see uh 607 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:07,760 differences in is what we call call 608 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,200 features, and that is the ability to 609 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,000 repay or pay down the bonds uh prior to 610 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320 maturity where it's only a 10-year bond. 611 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,520 We may have a call that somebody may 612 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,440 send a bid in. They'll here's the 613 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,120 interest rate, but you can't pay it off 614 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,960 early for 10 years. Or we may have some 615 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,960 that say you can start paying it off 616 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,320 early in three years. Or 617 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,240 >> if it's a standard, if they're pretty 618 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,159 standard like that and and there's not 619 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,240 going to be anything hidden anywhere, I 620 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,840 can understand. I'm more of a trust but 621 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,600 verify kind of person 622 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,840 >> and I'm not going to be able to get 623 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,880 through 624 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,200 >> a legal contract of that uh that 625 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,799 magnitude 626 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,440 without, you know, some time. It's not 627 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679 going to happen for me in a day. Um I 628 00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,200 just want to make sure that we're making 629 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,960 sure that we're not signing something 630 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,799 that we shouldn't sign is where I'm 631 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:01,600 getting to. 632 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,679 >> But Brian, we're we've worked with Mark 633 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:06,080 in the past and and we've we've had good 634 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,200 success with 635 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,880 >> Thank you very Yeah. Z does a very good 636 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,559 job, Ryan, explaining that. 637 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:14,559 >> I agree. I totally agree, but I'm I'm a 638 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,200 little hitchy about that. Um, 639 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,120 >> right. We're just I think part of it is 640 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,000 that we're trusting him to advise us on 641 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 what is a good offer and what is not. 642 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,880 >> And and I think we'd have enough time, 643 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Brian, that we could fill the council in 644 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,720 the loop, give them the high overview of 645 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,279 it of this one has a penalty if we pay 646 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,360 it off early, this one has no penalty. 647 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,159 Mark's going to look at that and 648 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:42,799 >> we'll provide a bid summary and compare 649 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,480 total principal and interest payments 650 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,919 under all the options 651 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:50,720 >> u that we receive and can advise you on 652 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 things you ought to be mindful of. 653 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,640 >> I I I do appreciate that. I'm just I'm not saying I'm against it. I'm just 654 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,320 a little more cautious um in signing 655 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600 away that kind of thing. Um and and not 656 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,480 having it reviewed is is just makes me 657 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,000 nervous. Not saying I'm not going to 658 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 vote for it. It just makes me nervous. 659 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720 >> Noted. Thank you. Any other questions 660 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,590 for Mark? 661 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,440 » Okay, Mark. Thank you so much for 662 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,960 coming. You're welcome to stick around 663 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,919 and enjoy the rest. 664 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:27,200 >> It's really exciting. 665 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,799 >> Exciting council meeting or you're 666 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,240 welcome to uh head. 667 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,159 >> If you'd like me to stay, I'm happy to. 668 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:33,919 >> Your choice 100%. 669 00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:36,000 >> Thanks for the 670 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,520 >> You won't hurt our feelings. 671 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,120 >> We appreciate it. 672 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,279 >> If we were you, we'd go home. 673 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,719 >> I know this is a work meeting and so 674 00:27:43,719 --> 00:27:46,310 [laughter] 675 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,840 » Okay, we're going to jump back to number 676 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,559 two. uh the consideration and discussion 677 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,880 on the conditional use application for 678 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,960 Treehouse Park LLC, which is Three 679 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,600 Bridges, for a temporary on-site rock 680 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,679 crushing associated with the 681 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,200 construction of the Three Bridges 682 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,960 subdivision. Uh is this uh Ted or is 683 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,360 this Wayne? 684 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,399 >> Wayne. 685 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:13,430 >> Okay, Wayne, you're up. 686 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,814 » He drew the short straw tonight. 687 00:28:15,814 --> 00:28:17,360 [laughter] 688 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,120 guy. You haven't seen the long straw 689 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,709 yet. 690 00:28:21,709 --> 00:28:23,520 [laughter] 691 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,120 >> Thanks, Mark. 692 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,640 >> Um, this was submitted to us uh a while 693 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,399 back and the planning commission has had 694 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:33,039 an opportunity to look at it. It's 695 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,279 pretty straightforward. 696 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:40,399 um their their plans are to do this 697 00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:43,360 uh rock crushing and and gravel 698 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,440 separation of sizes and so forth that 699 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,919 they will use in their roads and other 700 00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:50,720 construction there. One of the concerns 701 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080 was the dust that this might accumulate 702 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,720 and they they've agreed and their their 703 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,360 plans were so they're not making a 704 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120 concession here. The plans were to put a 705 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,039 water truck on site to uh to wet the 706 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,760 area down periodically to keep the dust 707 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960 low. Um it's our understanding too as 708 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,120 they go through this process with the 709 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840 dirt pile that we've got that it will be 710 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,720 moved further to the east as it's 711 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,279 divided up in the different kinds of 712 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,120 >> So this will be for our big mountain 713 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,039 right by the correct mailboxes. Just 714 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:26,399 thought everybody should know that. 715 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:28,159 >> The removal of the mountain. 716 00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:31,679 >> Yeah, it's to remove it. Yes. 717 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:34,320 >> Slow slowly. 718 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,159 >> Wayne, could you explain the process 719 00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:38,720 because it's saying rock crushing, 720 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,720 right? And we've had one concern from a 721 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960 resident who's written in. Uh Brian, I 722 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,080 don't know if you want to address that 723 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,679 or I can. Um 724 00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:50,480 >> there aren't big rocks in in this pile 725 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,200 of dirt, so it'll be sizing more than 726 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,039 anything. If it goes through one size, 727 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,320 it'll be in this pile. But I don't I 728 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,799 mean there'll be dust created from that. 729 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,240 >> It's a sifting process. 730 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,039 >> I don't see there being a lot of noise 731 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,600 in breaking up boulders or those sorts 732 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,520 of things there. We didn't 733 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200 >> and that was the primary concern from a 734 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,559 resident was, you know, is there going 735 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:15,360 to be a seismic activity associated with 736 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,480 this? And one thing I want to make aware 737 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,039 >> is we've actually had this exact same 738 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,600 operation on the opposite side of the 739 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,360 city for years um with a different 740 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,840 construction company over there um in 741 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Elk Ridge. Um and so it's not a very 742 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520 it's not a nuisance in that regard. 743 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Dust, sure, we need to take care of it, 744 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440 but it won't cause seismic issues. It 745 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,559 won't cause a nuisance in that regard. 746 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,200 It's not anticipated to. That's correct. 747 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,559 >> Do they have an estimate of when that 748 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,200 would that project would round up? Is 749 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,559 that just over the summer? Is that going 750 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,200 to go through? I mean, I know. I just 751 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,480 wondered how long they plan on 752 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,880 >> I think it'll be as long as that pile of 753 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,840 dirt is 754 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600 >> still there. So, 755 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,320 >> years. 756 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,080 >> So, okay. [clears throat] 757 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Hopefully not. 758 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,799 >> Some questions. Um 759 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,240 but the application I I thought it was 760 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,399 um you know 761 00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:18,480 very vague. It's not signed. So I was uh 762 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,600 from the applicant and um I wanted to 763 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,760 make sure that some of these things are more concrete. Um yes, they're going 764 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,679 to be rock crushing. Um but it I think 765 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:34,000 we should be putting in there about no 766 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,520 noise 767 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,039 ordinances. um the time of operation to 768 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:40,320 make sure that it's in 769 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,919 >> that's all in our ordinances. We've made 770 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:44,240 them aware of that on the site 771 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,039 >> so that they're aware. 772 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,200 >> We went through all our ordinances of 773 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,080 operation 774 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,360 >> because that's by code. 775 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,279 >> Yeah, that's by code. 776 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,720 >> We talked about it's actually county 777 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640 noise ordinance which is more stricter 778 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440 than ours. Um as well as I think Salem's 779 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,880 is a little more stricter than ours 780 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,720 because they're actually going to be 781 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720 >> the operation is going to be in our city 782 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,159 but the dirt's actually being moved to 783 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:05,722 Salem. So, it's kind of both cities 784 00:32:05,722 --> 00:32:07,039 [clears throat] involved here. 785 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:08,799 >> We already got one of these for Salem, 786 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:09,120 right? 787 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,640 >> And then the other thing I wanted to 788 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,760 talk about 789 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,279 >> going on in Salem with that other pile 790 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,080 of dirty 791 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,159 >> was the um dust mitigation. Um I would 792 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:19,679 like to see it a little bit more 793 00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:22,640 concrete. Um managing it through a water 794 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,919 truck once in a while. 795 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,519 >> So that's in that's in their SWIP plan 796 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:26,960 they submitted to us as part of this 797 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,919 permit. 798 00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:29,760 >> We just didn't see that part, right? So, 799 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,360 I just wanted to clarify 800 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,960 >> something that our SWIP inspector 801 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,919 inspects kind of for our lenses. So, 802 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:37,360 Mitch, our SWIP inspector, he'll be 803 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,519 coming up and inspecting them. Part of 804 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,120 that is dust control. 805 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,640 >> Okay. So, if it's not adequate, the 806 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,960 swift inspector would would require them 807 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,600 to water more often or or whatever, 808 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,159 >> right? 809 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:49,600 >> Okay. That's what I just wanted to make 810 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080 sure that our public recognized that we 811 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,880 do have someone overseeing that and um 812 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,120 mitigating that that dust. and we told 813 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,159 them they're required to get this SWIP 814 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,720 approval in the process and they were 815 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,159 willing to do that. So, 816 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:05,600 >> and they got the SWIP approved through 817 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,159 the state and Mitch, our SWIP inspector, 818 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:11,120 reviewed it and he was good with it. 819 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,640 Now, he'll be doing his uh inspections 820 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,320 just make sure they comply with 821 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,320 >> How often do they do the inspection? 822 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,399 >> Usually, it's monthly. Oh, 823 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,960 >> it's either dust or monthly or when they 824 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,440 get complaints, it's dust, runoff, mud, 825 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,640 whole bunch of stuff. He'll be 826 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640 inspecting plus 827 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,519 >> the county also has uh provisions for 828 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:34,080 that. 829 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,960 >> Okay. 830 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,080 >> Noise and dust as well 831 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,760 because also affect, 832 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,480 >> right? So, 833 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,279 >> so if any of our residents are are upset 834 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,399 about it, when they call Jody or any of 835 00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:50,240 us, then you would direct them to um our 836 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480 SWIP compliance officer who would take 837 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960 those complaints and then adjust the 838 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,029 mitigation accordingly. 839 00:33:59,039 --> 00:33:59,760 » Okay? 840 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,679 >> If it's out of compliance, but just 841 00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:03,360 doesn't mean out of compliance, right? 842 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,200 >> So, he has to check the levels to see 843 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,799 what's going on and stuff like that, 844 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,200 >> right? and the contractor they will have 845 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,520 to self audit and submit reports weekly. 846 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,560 >> So it's 847 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040 >> and if we get if we get reports that 848 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,599 there's issues or problems will address 849 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,919 them and through SWIP and or through 850 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:24,480 three bridges make sure that it gets 851 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,240 addressed whatever the issue is. 852 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,320 >> Perfect. 853 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,399 >> So So Wayne, are they they're planning 854 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:32,639 on just using that for their own stuff? 855 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,560 are not planning on selling it or like 856 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,000 >> they've offered to sell some of it in 857 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,440 the past and I don't know what their 858 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,200 exact plans are in that regard, but the majority of it will be in their own 859 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,320 being utilized in their own uh project 860 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:48,639 there. 861 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,639 >> So, no hope for some sales tax out of 862 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,040 some uh some 863 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,599 >> hill of dirt that we could get a little 864 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,839 >> extra talking about were favors to 865 00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:59,680 people, not so much that they 866 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,599 >> getting in the selling business. Yeah. 867 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:02,880 >> Yeah. Okay. 868 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,720 >> And back to my first comment. Did do 869 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:06,160 they not need to sign this application? 870 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,760 >> No, we'll get them to sign it. 871 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,280 >> Actually, there's more to the 872 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,960 application. I gave you the front page. 873 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,359 They've got to go through they sign the 874 00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:15,359 back of the code after they've read it 875 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:15,599 all. 876 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:16,400 >> All right. So, 877 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,440 >> just making sure that 878 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,920 >> and there's a fee they've got to pay. 879 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,520 >> I see the fee. 880 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,960 >> Any other questions? 881 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,079 >> Yes. Yes, I have I do have a couple. Um, 882 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:30,000 I again I I agree with with Carrie on 883 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,359 having a wet signature from from the, 884 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:37,920 you know, the applicant, but I'd also I would have preferred just for future 885 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000 to actually see that it had gone through 886 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,480 our different departments and got those 887 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,079 signatures as well because there is a 888 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,440 spot for that. Um, so that I can know 889 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520 that it's been properly reviewed and 890 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,119 vetted. We're small enough. So, I'm not 891 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:52,640 too worried about it, but that would 892 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200 have been preferable just for future. 893 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,160 Um, I would like to to just bring it up 894 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,760 just so we're talking a little bit more 895 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,359 about it. Um, one of our residents uh 896 00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:05,520 had sent me an email that I sent out. 897 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,320 Um, they were asking about s, you know, 898 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,880 seismographic meters around and and 899 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,079 worried about uh their their, you know, 900 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:15,760 vibrations that could cause issues with 901 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:22,160 their plumbing. I want to make sure that it's stated that this is not from a 902 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640 we're not having any blasting. Um if 903 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,880 there is is more discussion, they can 904 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,320 actually talk to Ted who's very 905 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,520 wellversed in this. Um it's only a 906 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960 crusher and and and 907 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040 um screening processes that we'll be 908 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,680 seeing. Um, so it is not 909 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,359 something that we would ask a a a an 910 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:48,640 applicant to actually put a seismograph 911 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,680 any kind of meters anywhere. And uh, 912 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,359 Mayor pointed out to me that we actually 913 00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:55,760 have had this going on for years in our 914 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,400 city. Um, so it's it's not much 915 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,240 different from what we what we currently 916 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,800 have. Um, one of the things that they 917 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,760 brought up was they they are asking for 918 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,720 the city to post on their website 919 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,280 um the ability to submit errant dust 920 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,839 reports to the EPA. Again, I think this 921 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:16,880 is more of a SWIP thing. Does SWIP allow 922 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,440 for uh dust reports um by the public? 923 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,520 And if so, can we put that link on our 924 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,599 web page? Would that be very difficult? 925 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:31,200 That's a good question. I don't because 926 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,320 the SWIP's handled by the state. Um, so 927 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,760 we'd have to go through the state site 928 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,680 and look to see if they can submit. 929 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,160 I don't know that I've seen that before. 930 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,440 Usually, if there's something because 931 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,720 there's going to be two different SWIP 932 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,119 inspectors on this, well, Salem and ours 933 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,280 because the the pile is actually number 934 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,560 city. So, they'll be doing some 935 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,240 screening as they're and and uh the rock 936 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,000 operation as they're moving the pile. 937 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 They'll be moving the little equipment 938 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 with them. It's not like a huge thing. 939 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,280 They'll be moving equipment with them, 940 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,800 but they're actually moving the material 941 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,200 into Salem. Um so, they'll be moving the 942 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960 pile over closer to where they're going 943 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,040 to be using it in their infrastructure. 944 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Um so, there'll be multiple SWIP 945 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,079 inspectors looking at this thing. Um so, 946 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,760 we can look to see if there's a way to 947 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,640 do that. I'm not positive. Um, we'd have 948 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,040 to talk to the state and also this did 949 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,880 go just for not know this did go to a 950 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,630 public hearing as well 951 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040 » and and this resident was unable to make 952 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,400 that and sent me an email. Um, how do do 953 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480 we normally just call the SWIP inspector 954 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,079 if there if we got a a complaint if 955 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:39,839 we're complaining? 956 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:40,880 >> Yes. 957 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200 >> Okay. So maybe it'd be worth checking 958 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,960 with them if we can post their number or 959 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,960 post a way to put I don't know Tony I 960 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,359 don't know how hard and Dan I guess um I 961 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:53,119 don't know how hard it would be to to 962 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,079 put something on the web page to say 963 00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,400 call this number if 964 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,240 >> I think we call us. 965 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,839 >> Yeah, we don't want them to call SWIP. 966 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,520 >> Yeah, I prefer they call us and then 967 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,280 we'll notify the swift inspector. 968 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680 >> Okay. And and if we could put that, you 969 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,920 know, dust reports, if we can put that, 970 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,880 I think this would help with uh some of, 971 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,400 you know, some of the concerns or just my thoughts on it. 972 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,079 >> Yeah. So, the reason I think we'd like 973 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:19,599 to have a call us and said because we 974 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:20,720 don't know who's going to be doing 975 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,640 whether be us or Salem. Kind of depends 976 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,720 on if there's dust generated in our 977 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,480 city, then it would be our swift guy we 978 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,560 would have to reach out to. If it is if 979 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,320 it's coming as they're dumping the dirt 980 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160 in Salem, then it would be the Salem 981 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,599 swift guy that we'd have to reach out to 982 00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:35,040 for contact. So, 983 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520 >> so maybe we can put Ted's number. Call 984 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,079 Ted if you have a problem, if you're 985 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:41,760 having dust issues so he can figure it 986 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,839 out because I'm I'm already going to 987 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,280 recommend something and Jody's probably 988 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,680 already gonna strangle me for it. So, 989 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,880 um, 990 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,119 >> yeah, 991 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:52,320 >> you're welcome to call me and we can 992 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,320 reach out to 993 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480 >> Yeah, Dan and Jody, would that be hard 994 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,960 to put on the website? 995 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,720 >> I think it so my number is already there 996 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,960 on the website. Yeah, but to actually 997 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,520 say for dust reports, errant dust 998 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,640 reports, 999 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,160 >> I don't know those are. We'll have to 1000 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000 look to see if those are even a I'm not 1001 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,200 sure there's such a thing. 1002 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,599 >> Well, we've got to be careful too with 1003 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,400 dust reports because my opinion of dust 1004 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,320 is any dust, right? But SWIP says some 1005 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200 dust is okay and normal, right? And so 1006 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,880 if we have residents trying to control 1007 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200 what the regulation is due to their 1008 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920 thoughts and feelings, um we are going 1009 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,160 to drastically exacerbate the amount of 1010 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,720 work required on, you know, Ted's end, 1011 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,200 Jod's end, and Mitch's end. 1012 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,599 >> Um and so we want to make sure we can do 1013 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,760 some education, but we want to let 1014 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,920 people know that with construction, just 1015 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,240 like when their home was constructed, 1016 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,560 dust was created. Now, maybe they didn't 1017 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,520 build it, but it's part of being in a 1018 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,079 community. Um, but we also want to make 1019 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,240 sure that it is not out of control and 1020 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,160 we will keep an eye on that as with the 1021 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,760 whole SWIP protocols. 1022 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,040 >> And I suspect there's going to be a bit 1023 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,480 of a learning curve right up front. 1024 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,359 Probably get some calls about dust and I 1025 00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:08,880 think at some point we'll kind of get a 1026 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,160 handle on what is violation of dust too 1027 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,440 much and where do we fit where it's not 1028 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,079 violating the the permit. We'll probably 1029 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:19,440 after a little while we'll be a little 1030 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,359 learning curve and we'll be able to look 1031 00:41:21,359 --> 00:41:24,079 at it and say yes that's too much or no 1032 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,400 um they seem to be within that because 1033 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,160 if we're getting these reports every day 1034 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,000 from someone, you know, then we're going 1035 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,520 to be having our swift inspector come up 1036 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,240 every day and we what we want to try and 1037 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,880 do is manage that a little bit. We get 1038 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,440 some training on it and kind of get a 1039 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,160 feel for where we at. and and also the 1040 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,000 county uh they also have um dust 1041 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560 parameters as well. So I'm sure they'll 1042 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,880 be involved in that. I think there's 1043 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,400 going to be a little bit of a curve as 1044 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,280 we look at this thing um to see what 1045 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,880 that entails. We don't even know right 1046 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,319 now what that's going to look like with 1047 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:02,480 dust. It may not be could be dusty. It 1048 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,720 may not. We don't know. So I agree, 1049 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:05,839 Brian. I think there's going to have to 1050 00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:07,599 be a way to report this. I think there's 1051 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:08,640 going to be a little bit of a learning 1052 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,920 curve and just us as a city will be 1053 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,760 monitoring it for a little while to 1054 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,560 figure out, okay, what is too dusty. Um, 1055 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,920 believe me, I checked on dust quite a 1056 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,040 bit. I was down at the bottom of the 1057 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,440 city today, saw dust up at the top of 1058 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,760 the hill coming up and so I took off 1059 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,200 from the house I was at, went up to see 1060 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,760 what was going on. Um, turned out it was 1061 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,200 just some contractors cutting a 1062 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,640 driveway. Um, because as you know, when 1063 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,720 dust goes up, we usually get fire, smoke 1064 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,800 calls. Um, y 1065 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,160 >> which is fun. We like to go on those 1066 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,440 anyway. But, 1067 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,880 >> uh, so I think there's going to be a 1068 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,400 little bit of learning curve. I agree 1069 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,680 that uh, residents can reach out to us, 1070 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,520 I think, to start with 1071 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,839 >> and then we'll kind of see how we 1072 00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:51,680 manage. 1073 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,000 >> Okay. I I will respond to the resident 1074 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,560 and and give him that information and he 1075 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,240 might call you just so he can have some 1076 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,280 discussions about his concerns. 1077 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,040 >> I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's it's 1078 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,599 the the first comment is are you seeing 1079 00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,520 too much dust, please call the city and 1080 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,720 then when we get a handle on what is too 1081 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,119 much and what's not too much, then maybe 1082 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,640 we can go to a little more serious stuff 1083 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,160 to if you see dust that you know looks 1084 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,400 like this or whatever, then file a 1085 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,920 report or something like that. 1086 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,640 >> Okay. 1087 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,760 >> I think we also have to be careful 1088 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,280 because if we make too big of a deal of 1089 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,960 it, people are going to be hyperfixated 1090 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,599 on it. And let's remember with all that 1091 00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,160 construction up at the mitigation basin 1092 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,560 during that time we built that, we never 1093 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,079 exceeded 1094 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,920 EPA standards and there was quite a bit 1095 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,560 of dust, right? And we got a number of 1096 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,000 phone calls, but it never did exceed any 1097 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560 standards. We brought the water truck up 1098 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,920 a little bit more and I'm sure they'll 1099 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,200 do that. But yeah, if there's any 1100 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,880 problems, please call the offices and 1101 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,760 we'll um Mitch's number, who is our SWIP 1102 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,060 inspector, is on our um website. 1103 00:43:57,060 --> 00:43:59,359 [snorts] And so I guess, you know, they 1104 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:00,880 could always try texting that if they 1105 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,240 really are concerned. 1106 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,599 >> Well, they can reach out to any of us, 1107 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,680 too. We can pass it along. 1108 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,839 >> Exactly. Any other questions for Wayne? 1109 00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:10,560 >> Thank you. 1110 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,160 >> Okay. Thank you, Wayne. [clears throat] 1111 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,520 Okay, we're going to move on to number 1112 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,720 four, the March 2026 financials and 1113 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,960 check dispersements. 1114 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,960 Um, you guys have all had them for a 1115 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,680 little bit. Uh, any questions there? 1116 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,440 >> Who's answering the questions? 1117 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,880 >> We will answer them. [laughter] 1118 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,680 >> Just wondering. 1119 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,280 >> I know. I was kind of thinking that as I 1120 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,359 was looking through [laughter] 1121 00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:36,000 >> between Jod and I, I think we can. And 1122 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920 then if it's a departmental, Ted can 1123 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,520 tackle it. But I think for the most part 1124 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,520 we can answer most your questions these 1125 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,400 days. 1126 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160 >> Yeah, I mean I I look through things. I 1127 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,599 just want to make sure that it's it's 1128 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,119 clear and noted. Um so for the month of 1129 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,839 March we had $22,72 1130 00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:57,280 in legal fees. Is that correct? Correct. 1131 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,680 Yep. 1132 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,160 >> Yes. 1133 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,440 >> Okay. 1134 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,720 And that is in part due to the fact that 1135 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,160 we so we have our attorneys um Smith and 1136 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,960 Harbickson um which we have you know we 1137 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,839 pay and do contract work plus litigation 1138 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:14,720 work for on our behalf. We also then 1139 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:17,200 have the insurance that the that are 1140 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,000 insur litigators from our insurance the 1141 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,560 trust. 1142 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,400 >> I'm not challenging it or asking for an 1143 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,160 explanation. I'm I'm just getting 1144 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,079 clarification airing airing out the 1145 00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:27,680 clarification I suppose is what I'm 1146 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,119 doing. Sounds good. 1147 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,119 >> So that's basically, you know, quarter 1148 00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,760 of a pickle ball court right there. 1149 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,640 >> Just [laughter] 1150 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,599 put it in perspective. 1151 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,710 >> Yeah. 1152 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,160 » Pickle ball champs of St. George. 1153 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,720 >> Very close. You guys were 1154 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,079 >> so semi-professionals that were we were 1155 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:49,359 playing against. 1156 00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:51,520 >> Those ones from the Garden City were a 1157 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,800 little bit tougher than the rest of 1158 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,200 them. 1159 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,960 >> Oh my word. [laughter] 1160 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,599 They were 1161 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:56,800 >> we would have better if we had 1162 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,240 >> but we had the best cheerleaders. 1163 00:45:58,240 --> 00:45:59,440 Really? We had the best cheers. 1164 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,520 >> We did have the best cheerleaders. Any 1165 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,400 other questions about the 1166 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,319 >> I'm I'm not really a Well, it's kind of 1167 00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:12,319 a question. It's actually a request. Um 1168 00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:13,599 I hate to say this because nobody's 1169 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,280 going to be happy. Nobody in the staff 1170 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680 is going to be happy. Um, I would 1171 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,800 actually like to see, especially when we 1172 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,839 have large credit card purchases, um, 1173 00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:26,480 kind of a breakdown of what it was that 1174 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,359 we bought, um, so that we have some 1175 00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:32,000 clarity in that as we're as we're going 1176 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,720 through here because I trust everybody. 1177 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,760 don't think I don't. But if people ask, 1178 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,960 hey, we've spent this much money at at 1179 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,200 Costco or we spent this much money on 1180 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,800 Amazon and it could be going to people's 1181 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,880 homes. I can say no. This is this is the 1182 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,520 things that we bought. Um I don't know 1183 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,520 if we're currently doing that, but I I 1184 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,839 would like to see it. I apologize to 1185 00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:55,359 everybody who has to go through that 1186 00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:58,790 pain. 1187 00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,839 » Actually, this is something we're going 1188 00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:02,480 to bring up in staff meeting. Uh, just 1189 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200 so you're aware, there is no other city 1190 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,400 in in Utah that provides credit card 1191 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,240 statements. Now, we're okay with doing 1192 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,319 it because all of ours have receipts to 1193 00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:15,119 back up all of our statements. It can be 1194 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,240 shown what it's for, but we are putting 1195 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,119 the city at a little bit of an exposure. 1196 00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,520 Um, and we need to talk about some of 1197 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,040 that. I think that it would be better to 1198 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,280 come under each department head to 1199 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,282 review those expenses that go underneath 1200 00:47:29,282 --> 00:47:31,440 [clears throat] their budget and ask 1201 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,440 those questions on their 1202 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,040 >> which would be fine. I know that I've 1203 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,720 asked you to buy things for the fire 1204 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:40,240 department and and the MS um and and so 1205 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:42,800 it'll be it'll be fine to because 1206 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,119 nothing is really going over those you 1207 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,520 know those approval levels. Well, 1208 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,079 actually, there might be some, but um 1209 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:51,680 but it'll be nice to see, especially 1210 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,960 when we have when we have big 1211 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,079 expenditures of of what it's going to um 1212 00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,119 just so that we can say, you know, this 1213 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,040 Best Buy purchase, I could pull that one 1214 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,359 up and say this was for this particular 1215 00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:05,359 thing that we needed in in the in the 1216 00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:07,280 office and someone isn't thinking that 1217 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,200 we're taking it because I've had a 1218 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,200 couple of comments where people think 1219 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,280 we're on the take. I mean, I don't know 1220 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,720 if you guys have heard them, but I have 1221 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,440 heard them. um and and think that that everybody in the city is on the 1222 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,400 tape and I don't like it and I looking 1223 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,920 for more clarity. 1224 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,599 >> Question I would have is how would that 1225 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:27,839 clarity be provided? So for example, for 1226 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:29,440 all of our credit card purchases, we 1227 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,599 submit our receipts to Lori so she can 1228 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:33,200 give you the details of every one of 1229 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,119 those purchases that we've made because 1230 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:36,480 she has all the breakdown of all the 1231 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,160 receipts. Um, 1232 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,880 >> and I'm good with that. If if I just get 1233 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,559 and and I'm kind of looking for a way 1234 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:47,280 that I can I can review it before I sign 1235 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,960 off on, you know, before we vote on it 1236 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,480 so that I can be honest with 1237 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,240 constituents when they're when they're 1238 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,680 asking me um and saying nasty things. 1239 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,000 Had a bad week. Do you really want to be 1240 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,680 liable for all those details and getting 1241 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,599 them straight and not messing it up and having all 1242 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,520 >> I I want to be able to get to them, 1243 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,079 right? I want to make sure that I can 1244 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,240 get to them if I need to and I can also 1245 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,480 review them just so I say, "Yep, I feel 1246 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,680 comfortable with that." 1247 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,640 >> Um, so 1248 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,079 >> just tell them to talk to Lori. 1249 00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:19,520 >> Is Brian just go Lori and she can get 1250 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,400 you anything you need. 1251 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,680 >> I think what we've got to be careful 1252 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160 here is, you know, this is I think 1253 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,240 bleeding and this is the line, right? 1254 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:27,520 And this is what I'm as the mayor 1255 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,800 wanting to be sure is very clear is you 1256 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,040 guys are in charge of the budget. You're 1257 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,960 in charge of all the execution. You hold 1258 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,760 the purse strings as the council. um 1259 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,400 every single one of the transactions 1260 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,000 greater than I think I've said $1,500 1261 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,040 pretty much $2,25,000 1262 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,119 we usually anything under 1263 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,800 >> I have to sign off on right um because 1264 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,599 so it's going through multiple checks if 1265 00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:57,920 for any reason just so you guys are 1266 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,760 aware if for any reason I personally am 1267 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,640 part of the transaction I call Janet and 1268 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,839 have her do that second step. Um, and 1269 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:13,200 she comes in and then she signs that receipt. Um, and so every single 1270 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,760 one of these dispersements are going 1271 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,839 through three different checks and 1272 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,480 balances. So I would recommend if 1273 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,000 anybody ever is suggesting 1274 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,040 that we are on the take, 1275 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,559 invite them to come into the office. 1276 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,000 >> We're on the give. 1277 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,640 >> Yeah, we're on the very much the give. 1278 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,520 >> You know, I know that, right? But I 1279 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,200 mean, I just I I I I get these and it's 1280 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,880 been, like I said, a rough couple of 1281 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,880 weeks with some of the things that have 1282 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,359 been said to me. Um, and 1283 00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:49,280 >> I I would suggest reaching out to Lori 1284 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,640 because she can give you details and any 1285 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,559 of those you're questioning. She has all 1286 00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:56,400 the receipts and the breakdown of what the expenditures were. I mean, as a 1287 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,839 staff, we go through our receipts. We 1288 00:50:57,839 --> 00:50:59,839 mark what accounts they go to and what 1289 00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:01,359 they're working on. 1290 00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:03,680 >> So, the information is there. 1291 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,359 >> Yeah. If we don't I mean I'm I'm happy 1292 00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:09,920 to do that and that's fine if that's the right way for me to to review that 1293 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,640 and I'm I'm good with it. Um that's 1294 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,000 fine. 1295 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,920 >> That way I can say yes, I signed off on 1296 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,079 it and I believe everything that 1297 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:20,079 >> that has been I I mean I believe it 1298 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,839 anyhow. I already tell them that but I 1299 00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:23,520 can say that I've seen the receipts and 1300 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,000 yes, they're valid purchases. 1301 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,599 >> Yeah. And I would encourage it push back 1302 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:30,000 a little. Right. I think sometimes we're 1303 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,119 too nice. Now I still say be nice. Don't 1304 00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:34,640 be mean to our residents. 1305 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,440 >> Yeah, but that's not me. I'm not nice. 1306 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,280 >> But well, you are hostile, Hutchings. 1307 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,559 That is true. 1308 00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,599 >> But I think what you what we should do 1309 00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,559 though is is say, "Hey, if you believe 1310 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,520 something corrupt is going on, right, 1311 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,160 come into the office and talk to us. 1312 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,119 Let's let's nip the rumors 1313 00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:58,319 in the butt because they're just not 1314 00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:00,800 accurate. Some people are just going to 1315 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,520 make stuff up and they're going to 1316 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,079 create stuff that's not there and that's 1317 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:07,520 just the way it is and that's not going 1318 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,200 to change. And you can have all the 1319 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,559 facts in the world and you can do all 1320 00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,079 the convincing that you want to do and 1321 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,400 you will not convince that person that 1322 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,839 we're honest 1323 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,079 >> and they're wrong. You just won't. You 1324 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:19,359 can have all the information in the 1325 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:21,119 world and you will not convince them. 1326 00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,760 >> And down to every 1327 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,000 >> Yeah. down on those credit cards. Every 1328 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,319 receipt we tracked down to the point of 1329 00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:34,559 there was a receipt that was for $54 and 1330 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,720 some odds and I didn't know what what it 1331 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,640 was for. I called Amazon. I called the 1332 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,800 vendor. I finally called the credit card 1333 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,079 company and they were able to tell me 1334 00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:45,920 exactly what it was for. And I was able 1335 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,480 to go to that person and say, "Uh, did 1336 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,359 you charge something here for this, and this?" And they're like, "Oh, 1337 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:53,040 yeah. Let me get you that receipt." 1338 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,800 Well, that's how we we do it. I mean, we 1339 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,720 make sure every receipt accompanies 1340 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,240 those bills. 1341 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,160 >> I I know without a shadow of a doubt 1342 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,160 that everything is being done on the up 1343 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,640 and up, but I'm getting accused of 1344 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,119 signing off on things that are not on 1345 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,640 the up that that that aren't true, and 1346 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,119 it's frustrating. 1347 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:16,880 >> Please ask them to 1348 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,640 >> Yeah. have them come in and also 1349 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,520 understand that the checks and balances 1350 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,720 are in place and to a degree sometimes 1351 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,720 on these monthly expenses that is what 1352 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:30,319 you guys are voting on is the system not 1353 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:33,040 necessarily every penny but the fact 1354 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,200 that we have decided and worked together 1355 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,280 to create the systems that do not allow 1356 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,079 fraud in our city. 1357 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:40,720 >> Absolutely. 1358 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:42,319 >> But if you have questions you also have 1359 00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:46,240 the ability to ask those. So, well, we 1360 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,640 probably won't utilize the funds of the 1361 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,200 city from an administrative standpoint 1362 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,400 to extrapolate all those every single 1363 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,040 month. 1364 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,800 >> That's fair. If I That's fair. I get it. 1365 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,440 >> Okay. Thank you though, Brian. Uh, any 1366 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,950 other questions? 1367 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,160 » Okay, then we will move on. Uh, Ted, the 1368 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,319 annual sewer system report. I've been 1369 00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:11,359 really looking forward to this. 1370 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:13,680 >> Oh, yes. I've been excited to present 1371 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:18,630 this to you guys tonight. 1372 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,240 Still flowing. So sewer flows downhill 1373 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:23,359 >> right over to PAC. 1374 00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:24,557 >> Unless you have a lift station, then 1375 00:54:24,557 --> 00:54:26,480 [laughter] you can lift it. Yeah, we 1376 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,960 send it all to PAC. No. So every year we 1377 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,559 have to fill out an annual um municipal 1378 00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,720 wastewater. 1379 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:38,240 Um essentially it it's a program 1380 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:39,760 planning program is what it is. this 1381 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,760 wall time basically just goes through 1382 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,800 and um gives a little bit information 1383 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,319 about our system. We have to put in 1384 00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:48,160 everything that goes into our system. 1385 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,040 How many connections we have um 1386 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,400 >> everything? 1387 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,119 >> What's that? 1388 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:54,480 >> Everything that goes into the system. 1389 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:54,960 >> Everything. 1390 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,359 >> Okay. 1391 00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:56,720 >> That's what when you're filling out 1392 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,599 report kind of how you feel. [laughter] 1393 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,920 Um, [clears throat] 1394 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,760 and it talks about what our we have to 1395 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,920 report what our sewer system rate is, 1396 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,160 how many connections we have. Do we have 1397 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,920 a replacement program in place? Um, do 1398 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,599 we have a sinking fund for the sewer 1399 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:17,280 system, replacement and repair fund? 1400 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,240 Um, and then it asked, do you have a 1401 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,480 5year, 10 year, 20-year plan, stuff like 1402 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,920 that? 1403 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,680 So I went through and then the last 1404 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,800 thing we have to do is you have to 1405 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,720 present it to council is what the state 1406 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:32,160 requires. So um 1407 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,319 >> how does that work when the some of the 1408 00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:38,240 system is ours but obviously the entire 1409 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:41,200 system is mostly pacin. So we only have 1410 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,079 to fill that out as it results as it is 1411 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,880 for what's actually in the ground in our 1412 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,040 city and then they would pick it up as 1413 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,440 where it goes in along the way and into 1414 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,960 PAC's big system. You don't have to 1415 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440 report on their whole entire system. 1416 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,920 >> Oh, no, no, no, no. This is just what we 1417 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,440 own as a city. Okay. 1418 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,640 >> Which is only within our city 1419 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,359 boundaries. 1420 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:02,079 >> Okay. 1421 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:05,119 >> Um, so that's what I went through. Um, 1422 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:08,400 one thing to note maybe that um is 1423 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,240 probably got to be something that's on 1424 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,240 our list. 1425 00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:16,400 We do have a fund um that builds it's a 1426 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,400 sewer like waters enterprise fund, 1427 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,079 right? And we do have money in there to 1428 00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:23,200 maintain our sewer system. Um, our sewer 1429 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,559 system is fairly new and we did have it 1430 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,799 videoed 1431 00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,799 uh about the time I started. So, two and 1432 00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:32,000 a half years ago, we had the whole 1433 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,880 system videoed uh sorry, sounded uh to 1434 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,640 get a condition assessment and it all 1435 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,799 came back as in great condition, our 1436 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:41,119 sewer. So, our system is really in good 1437 00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:43,520 condition. We do budget money every year 1438 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,280 to go towards maintenance. We haven't 1439 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,480 luckily needed much of that. Uh, one 1440 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,480 thing I do want to start though is a 1441 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,880 program of videoing so much sewer every 1442 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,960 year. Every they say every 5 years 1443 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,799 you're supposed to video your sewer just 1444 00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:59,440 to check it. So we have about 5 miles of 1445 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,599 sewer lines in our city. So I'd like to 1446 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:03,200 do like a mile or so every year. So 1447 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,960 every 5 years we're videoing the old 1448 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,119 sewer. Um, [clears throat] 1449 00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,799 so we do have money that goes back into 1450 00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:11,599 our sewer system. And uh, but that's a 1451 00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:14,160 fund we got to continue to build. So, as 1452 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,640 we look at our sewer system replacement, 1453 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,319 we'll want to continue not spending all 1454 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,640 of our maintenance money, but save some 1455 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,079 of that in an enterprise in the 1456 00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,319 enterprise fund so that we have some 1457 00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:26,319 replacement costs down the road. And 1458 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:27,760 that's really what the state's concerned 1459 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,240 about these days is because what they're 1460 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,680 finding is a lot of cities uh and and 1461 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,119 you know, right? So, it's a balance when 1462 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,960 you're municipality between what do I 1463 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,760 charge for my rate and what do I put 1464 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,520 into my fund as slush fund for 1465 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,480 replacement costs. Most times 1466 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,400 municipalities in the past have elected 1467 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,280 to keep their rates rates lower, but 1468 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,960 then they're not they're only they're 1469 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,280 basically spending everything they have 1470 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,040 and what they're finding is now cities 1471 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,559 are getting 20 30 years down the road 1472 00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:58,319 much like us and there's no fund to 1473 00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:00,640 replace the system and they start 1474 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,000 convincing you have to start going out 1475 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,359 and getting loans and grants and all 1476 00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:05,440 that kind of stuff. So um and that's 1477 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,880 kind of how our system is right now. We 1478 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,920 do have a little bit of money we're 1479 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,839 setting aside. What I'm going to propose 1480 00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:11,520 that we probably look at in the near 1481 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,040 future is um I haven't had a lot of time 1482 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,440 to dig into the sewer yet. Uh still 1483 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,920 getting through roads and water, but um 1484 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,319 and sewer is not a major utility for us 1485 00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:24,400 because we only have about quarter of 1486 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,599 our city that's covered with sewer. Um 1487 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:29,440 but start looking at what are we setting 1488 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,520 aside. It's about a $3 million system we 1489 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,280 have. What would it take to start 1490 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,040 setting site every year so that when the 1491 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,040 system reaches its life in 50 years, 1492 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,240 we've got some money there to start 1493 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:38,880 replacing it? 1494 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,799 >> Does that replacement fund come from the 1495 00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:43,520 entire city or only those who are users? 1496 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,440 >> So right now only those that are users 1497 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,799 pay towards the system. If you're on 1498 00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,960 septic you don't pay towards the sewer. 1499 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,720 >> It's a user fee for the those that are 1500 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,559 on the sewer. 1501 00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:54,400 >> It's fee based fun. 1502 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,559 >> Yeah. So currently we don't have any 1503 00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,359 reserve allocated for 1504 00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:01,040 >> so we've been setting aside about 10,000 1505 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,720 a year or something like that is what we 1506 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,319 have and that's been since I started 1507 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:06,240 here what I've seen is about 10,000 a 1508 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,799 year or so we we we set aside for you 1509 00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:10,240 know maintenance and stuff like that we 1510 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,160 don't really use a lot of that but what 1511 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,920 I'd like to do is is when we get dig 1512 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,920 into this what would it take for us to 1513 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,319 set aside not that necessarily means 1514 00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:21,040 raising our sewer rates but what should 1515 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,000 we be looking at as capturing through um 1516 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,319 our depreciation money and stuff like 1517 00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:28,720 that is to set aside in our funds so 1518 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,240 that we do have some replacement costs 1519 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,200 down the road. 1520 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,839 So other than that, uh we have about 1521 00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:37,839 well I said a little over 5 miles of 1522 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:40,640 sewer. Uh it's all 8 in uh been 1523 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,280 installed since about 2002 1524 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,559 and we have about 133 connections to the 1525 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:49,040 sewer of 560ish 1526 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,960 homes. 1527 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,880 133. 1528 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,200 Okay. 1529 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,599 And if you want to get into the details 1530 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,799 of our sewer system, 1531 01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:02,240 just give me a call. I'm happy to 1532 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,920 discuss all the details of sewer with 1533 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,880 you. Uh we do not treat sewer. It all 1534 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,680 goes to PAC to be treated and we do are 1535 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,680 our part of our fee, well the majority 1536 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,520 of our fee that residents pay goes to 1537 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,920 PAC for treating the sewer. 1538 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,400 >> Yeah, 1539 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,839 >> we do have a little bit of that money 1540 01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:19,920 that we keep and that's because of our 1541 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,549 maintenance and setting aside 1542 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:25,359 Thanks. 1543 01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:28,480 >> Any questions? 1544 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,319 Sweet. I can check that off the list 1545 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:33,440 now. Perfect. So proud of you. 1546 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,359 >> You're about to leave. You can just 1547 01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,680 >> Yeah. See how fun this is. This is the 1548 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,839 report I had to do. 1549 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:40,960 >> If [snorts] everybody wants some good 1550 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,119 readings, it's right there. Um, grant 1551 01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:43,920 update. 1552 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,839 >> Oh, sorry. I was going to ask one 1553 01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:50,000 question. Is is our fee to PAC, is it 1554 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,160 affiliated with the .edu edu we were 1555 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,079 talking about last council meeting 1556 01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:58,240 estimated daily water usage rate or how 1557 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,240 is that calculated those fees 1558 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,599 >> generally yes um so they charge us a set 1559 01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,640 rate we have an agreement with PAC and 1560 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,480 in that agreement it's a set rate they 1561 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,160 charge each of our residents or well 1562 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,359 they charge us see we charge our 1563 01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:14,240 residents um but that's based on the 1564 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,640 daily water use because essentially they 1565 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,319 assume what water you're using goes back 1566 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:18,960 down 1567 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,040 >> yeah right so they they do charge 1568 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,200 charges per connection based on kind of 1569 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,799 the average water use. 1570 01:01:24,799 --> 01:01:26,799 >> So, so if 1571 01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:28,640 >> Okay, gotcha. So, if there were a 1572 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,967 reduction at a state level of estimated 1573 01:01:30,967 --> 01:01:33,920 [snorts] daily usage, that could 1574 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,160 offer some relief potentially. I'm I'm 1575 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,799 just theorizing here, but 1576 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:40,799 >> uh potentially. Yeah, 1577 01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:42,480 >> I'm still looking for 1578 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,160 >> we actually when we did our agreement 1579 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,240 with PACON, we actually did it on the 1580 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,720 actual use and not what the state 1581 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,200 >> got. So, I don't know that we would get 1582 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,720 a lot of benefit from that because we're 1583 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:53,920 already doing that. 1584 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480 >> Okay, cool. 1585 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,319 >> Sweet. Sorry. Thanks. 1586 01:01:58,319 --> 01:01:59,920 >> You're good. Any other questions before 1587 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,040 I accidentally cut Steve off? 1588 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,240 I was slow. 1589 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,760 >> You're good. Okay. Uh grants. 1590 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,640 >> Uh grants. Um so, we have a few grants 1591 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,520 out there. I'll give you a couple 1592 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,079 reports. Um the assistance to 1593 01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:15,520 firefighter grants, which which is the 1594 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,960 one we got from FEMA. We bought our new 1595 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,440 SUVAs through, got everything submitted 1596 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,599 to FEMA to get reimbursed for that one 1597 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:25,599 and then Homeland Security shut down and 1598 01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:28,000 uh like the very next day after I got it 1599 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,280 all approved. They shut down. So, we've 1600 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,640 been waiting for that one for a little 1601 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,000 while. Um I did finally got hold of 1602 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,559 FEMA. I called every so often and just 1603 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:40,000 kept getting voicemail saying we're not 1604 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,119 here um due to the shutdown. They shut 1605 01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:44,799 their website down and everything. I 1606 01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:46,640 finally got a hold of someone last week. 1607 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,200 Uh they're back. I did confirm with her 1608 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,799 that everything is approved. They have 1609 01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:52,400 everything on from us that they need. 1610 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,079 Everything's approved on their side. 1611 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:55,520 Just waiting to release the money and 1612 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,640 she couldn't say when they'll release 1613 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,400 the money, but um so that's an update on 1614 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,400 the AFG grant. Um 1615 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,160 >> the city has paid that bill already, 1616 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,280 right? We're just waiting for 1617 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,240 reimbursement. 1618 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,000 >> Right. Right. We paid the bill. Yeah. 1619 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,280 >> It's called AFG grant. 1620 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,760 >> AFG assistance to firefighter grant. 1621 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,240 Yeah. 1622 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,359 Um, so far no word from the Utah Outdoor 1623 01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:18,640 Recreation Grant we submitted for the 1624 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,559 pickle ball court. Haven't heard from 1625 01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:24,880 them yet. I've checked and they haven't scored them or anything yet. So, 1626 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,359 still I'm not sure what that timeline is 1627 01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:33,029 to hear on that one. Um, 1628 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:35,280 we did also 1629 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,400 uh submit for a trail grant to 1630 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,720 Mountainland Association of Governments 1631 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,559 um to complete this first segment of our 1632 01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:46,160 trail. Um, as a tech committee member, 1633 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,440 we have been going through the tech 1634 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,960 committee has been going through all of 1635 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,640 those 1636 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,000 grants. Uh 1637 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,760 about a month or so ago, we went through 1638 01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,240 the um project idea re um presentations. 1639 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,640 44 projects were presented to MAG. They 1640 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,680 have about 110 million to 120 million in 1641 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,160 money this year. Uh on their it's their 1642 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,960 two-year cycle. Um there were aboutund 1643 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,520 and well at the time a little over $200 1644 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,839 million in projects submitted. Um we 1645 01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:19,599 went through the first round of what I 1646 01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:22,400 call project ideas. Um there were 44 1647 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,240 project ideas. Um those then got 1648 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,920 feedback got presented to the TAC 1649 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,720 committee. Um one of which we presented 1650 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,359 after our trail. Um after that there was 1651 01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:34,799 feedback from the entirety of the 1652 01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:36,559 committee. 14 of those projects dropped 1653 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:40,000 off the list. We met yesterday as a TAC 1654 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,119 committee and went through the remaining 1655 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:44,160 30 in concept planning phase and we 1656 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,920 ranked them. the staff has now ranked 1657 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,319 them. Uh right now ours is ranked about 1658 01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:51,760 19 of the 19 out of the 30. Um and it 1659 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,039 just all depends on they're going to 1660 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:55,359 send out the list. I'm going to try they 1661 01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:56,319 haven't sent out yet, but I'm going to 1662 01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:57,680 try and kind of estimate. We're about 1663 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,520 right on the bubble of whether we get 1664 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,799 funded or not. 1665 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:04,960 >> Um or really close. So, um we'll see how 1666 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,799 that goes. They also talked about maybe 1667 01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:08,160 breaking out a few trail projects 1668 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,359 separate from road projects because 1669 01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:11,680 there's both trails and roads um and 1670 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,160 transit. Um, so they talked about maybe 1671 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,760 they do a kind of a trail package and a 1672 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,920 roads package type thing. They're not 1673 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,920 sure, but basically once they rank them 1674 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,160 all, uh, we're going to meet one more 1675 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,520 time next Monday just to make sure we're 1676 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,799 okay with the ranking, see if we adjust 1677 01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:26,000 anything, and then it goes to the board, 1678 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,480 which the mayor's a member of, uh, as a 1679 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,880 recommended list, and then 1680 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,920 >> the staff just starts allocating money 1681 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,680 until they run out down the ranking 1682 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,319 list. Uh, so we're we're right on the 1683 01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:39,119 boat. 1684 01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:41,280 >> You got my boat, Ted. 1685 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,319 >> Oh, you're on the board. You're going to 1686 01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:42,960 be the one. 1687 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,880 >> Yeah, you got to start 1688 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,799 >> and making your calls to the other the 1689 01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:47,839 other mayors, right? 1690 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:49,760 >> I have already started. 1691 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,200 >> Yeah. Wonderful. Okay. 1692 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:51,920 >> Perfect. 1693 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,200 >> Um and then uh it seemed like we had one 1694 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,520 other grant out there, but uh 1695 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,880 >> water uh 1696 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,359 >> Yes, sorry. Yeah. Uh Burgess Owens. So, 1697 01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:06,960 we did submit a grant to uh Burgess 1698 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,799 Owens for a federal mark for a water 1699 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:11,359 project. Um haven't heard anything back 1700 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:12,799 on that one yet. I suspect it's going to 1701 01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:14,480 take a little while. Uh it's got to go 1702 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:20,640 back for uh federal air mark. So we each senator is allowed to take 20 1703 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,240 projects 1704 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,079 and no 20 or 21. 20 or 21. I think it's 1705 01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:26,880 20. 1706 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,760 >> Um so of the 20 that Burgess Olen's 1707 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,599 office is taking for federal air, we 1708 01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:34,880 ranked four out of the 20. So there's a 1709 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,799 shot we'll get something. Maybe not that 1710 01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:38,880 we requested. I think it's 2.4 four 1711 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,520 million or 2.9. I don't know we'll get 1712 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,520 the full thing, but but I there's a good 1713 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,720 shot we'll get some for water 1714 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,359 replacement. 1715 01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:47,599 >> Talked to him on Saturday and said, you 1716 01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,280 know, we're crossing our fingers. Please 1717 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,559 do whatever we can. 1718 01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:52,559 >> Yeah. Yeah. I emailed him last week to 1719 01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,079 his representative, the one I've been 1720 01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:56,240 working with in his office and same 1721 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,839 thing. Said that I was asking for an 1722 01:06:57,839 --> 01:06:59,760 update, but I never heard from me. 1723 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,160 >> Yeah. 1724 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,559 >> Wonderful. Okay. Then we will move to 1725 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,480 the departmental reports unless anybody 1726 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,029 has any questions for Ted on grants. 1727 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,440 » Okay. Uh community development, public 1728 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,359 works, and fire. 1729 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:18,400 >> All right. So, uh public works and 1730 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,640 community development. Um so, just an 1731 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,559 update on our retaining wall out here. I 1732 01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:24,160 had two different geoteex come to look 1733 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,480 at it for us. Uh one who lives in the 1734 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,720 city and one that um Councilman John's 1735 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,680 recommended. uh met with both of them 1736 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,160 and they both came independently to kind 1737 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,599 of the same assessment. Um the wall 1738 01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:41,680 seems to be fairly stable barring a 1739 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,200 major event, an earthquake or something 1740 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,760 like that. Uh mainly the the concern is 1741 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,440 with some of the rocks are just 1742 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,119 fracturing a bit. Not like falling 1743 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:50,720 apart, but just pieces of them breaking 1744 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,680 off. It's kind of that shelly stuff. Um 1745 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,839 they both assessed we've probably got 1746 01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:58,960 about three to five years to you know an 1747 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,400 estimated timeline that we should think 1748 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,720 about replacing it within. Uh so it's 1749 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,799 nothing urgent, nothing uh like 1750 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:06,880 immediate that was a a huge concern to 1751 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,039 them, but uh suggested we start 1752 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,720 budgeting and within the next 3 to 5 1753 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:16,080 years replace it with something a little different. So and they gave some 1754 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,679 estimated pricing and stuff like that. 1755 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:19,279 So, we'll talk about it maybe at the 1756 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,600 staff level and just see uh put together 1757 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,960 some prices and see what we want to 1758 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,239 start doing. Come back with some ideas 1759 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:26,799 on what we start setting aside to to 1760 01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:28,640 budget for the wall maybe to replace the 1761 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,120 next three years. 1762 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,960 >> Great. 1763 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:38,480 >> Um so also I wanted to ask uh just two 1764 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,679 more things. Sorry. Um 1765 01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:43,279 we got an email yesterday. So, as you 1766 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:44,319 know, the county is redoing the 1767 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,560 roundabout. Um the timeline of it 1768 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,080 slipped a little bit. It may or may not 1769 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,359 happen this summer. 1770 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:50,799 >> Their plan was to make it happen this 1771 01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:52,880 summer, but 1772 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,000 they're getting to a point where they 1773 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,520 think they're probably they've still 1774 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,040 going to work through rightway issues 1775 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,719 and that's what may hang them up a 1776 01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:00,159 little bit. If they can't get through 1777 01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:03,440 those quick enough, uh they may end up 1778 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:08,080 bumping uh a year. Um, however, I did uh 1779 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,440 we've been working with their design 1780 01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:12,880 team and they asked me uh yesterday what 1781 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,799 we would like for landscaping in the 1782 01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:16,480 roundabout. 1783 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:17,759 >> So, I want to throw that out of the 1784 01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:19,839 council. Just you don't have to answer 1785 01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:22,880 now, but throw me some ideas. 1786 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,040 Um, they said they're willing to put 1787 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,319 back what we have now. Trees. They'll 1788 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,560 put back the flag poles for sure. Uh, if 1789 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,000 we want trees, they'll put trees back. 1790 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,400 If we want more of a zeroscapes type 1791 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,679 stuff, they'll put more zeroscape. Um, I 1792 01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:36,960 just knowing the issues we've had with 1793 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,480 irrigation in that thing, I'm I'm 1794 01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:40,080 hesitant to put plants, but I'll do 1795 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,600 whatever the city wants to do. The trees 1796 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,600 do look nice, but we keep having 1797 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,600 sprinkler breaks and stuff like that flood it, and I'm afraid it's 1798 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,440 could, you know, potentially result in 1799 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:52,480 damage to around the um 1800 01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:54,719 >> I think residents would prefer some sort 1801 01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:57,199 of greenery there because it is the 1802 01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:00,000 entrance to the city. Um, 1803 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,440 >> it is woodland hills. 1804 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:02,880 >> Yeah. 1805 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,040 And so I think that they would 1806 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,560 prefer that. Um, 1807 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,520 >> but we could have a big granite mountain 1808 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,520 with a big bronze elk on there. 1809 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,920 >> Yeah. To remind us that we that used to 1810 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,159 be 1811 01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:17,760 >> Welcome to Little Hills. [laughter] 1812 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,679 >> I bet Summit Creek would pay for that. 1813 01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:22,400 >> I told Richard, 1814 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,950 >> Bucky, did you hear me? [laughter] 1815 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,520 » I saw his like this. 1816 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,360 >> Sweet. Thank you, Bucky. 1817 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,120 >> He did. He was bronze elk in the 1818 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,239 roundabout. 1819 01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:36,159 >> A big granite mountain with a bronze 1820 01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:37,520 elk. 1821 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,400 >> The new roundabout. 1822 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,400 >> I think it's only about 60 grand. So 1823 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,120 >> that's it. 1824 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,760 >> So there are a few things they're looking at in type stuff. 1825 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,400 >> If we want a bronze elk 1826 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,560 >> or I suggested I told Richard and Glenn 1827 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,760 we could put statues of them in the 1828 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,360 roundabout to commemorate there. 1829 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,000 >> Yeah. 1830 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,120 >> Um or if we want a city entrance sign, 1831 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,400 those will be costs that we'll probably 1832 01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,760 have to bear. They'll put them in, but 1833 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,040 we'll have to provide them with things 1834 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,679 that are kind of beyond what's there to 1835 01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:04,640 a limit. 1836 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,159 >> Just tell them there's a big bronze elk 1837 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:10,000 in there right now. [laughter] 1838 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,360 >> Does that include any utility in there? 1839 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,719 I know we have we have power in there 1840 01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:13,360 now. I'm guessing 1841 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,640 >> we do have power and they're willing to 1842 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,000 put power back in there to light the 1843 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,080 flag poles and stuff like that. Uh 1844 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,679 they'll replace all that. They'll 1845 01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:22,400 replace everything we have. Um if we go 1846 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,120 too extreme beyond that, 1847 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:25,520 >> yeah, 1848 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,040 >> you know, they'll want us to to bear 1849 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,280 some of the uh And I'll also end up 1850 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,040 signing a interlocal agreement with them 1851 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,679 that to maintain it again like 1852 01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:34,480 >> which is fine. 1853 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:38,880 >> What's the just out of curiosity um 1854 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,040 what is 1855 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,440 like a standard protocol for visibility 1856 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,520 over a roundabout? Like I've noticed a 1857 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,640 lot of the roundabouts like the newer 1858 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,199 ones in like Spanish they're basically 1859 01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:51,920 real lowle like so you can see on you 1860 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,679 know all the different cars coming in 1861 01:11:53,679 --> 01:11:56,000 and out. Ours is a little bit taller and 1862 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:56,480 narrow, 1863 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,840 >> right? But ours is a little bit taller 1864 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,239 where, you know, 1865 01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:01,760 >> you don't see the the And I don't know 1866 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,360 if that's good or bad. Like, do they 1867 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,600 like for for like headlight glare and 1868 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,679 things like that to knock that down? Is 1869 01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:10,159 there like a standard thing that they 1870 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:12,000 prefer to see inside of a roundabout? So 1871 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,840 there's there's I don't know there's 1872 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,199 like a a a 1873 01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:18,480 when you're looking at the technical 1874 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,400 design of a roundabout. I don't know 1875 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,920 that comes up in the technical design, 1876 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,800 but there is some theory out there that 1877 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,880 when you have trees like ours and you 1878 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,320 can't you limit that visibility through 1879 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,679 the roundabout, people tend to be more 1880 01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:30,719 cautious 1881 01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:31,920 >> because they can't see through the 1882 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,840 roundabout. So they slow down more 1883 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,159 >> to look for oncoming traffic. 1884 01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:38,480 um having the taller walls and that it 1885 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:42,320 does create some of Spanish Forks. Um I 1886 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,239 did talk to so the engineers that are 1887 01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:45,520 designing this one have also done some 1888 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,280 of Spanish forks. So I talked to about 1889 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,719 maybe they've done one down there that's 1890 01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:49,760 kind of a rock 1891 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,080 >> instead of concrete. The reason they did 1892 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,440 that is because if someone crashes into 1893 01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:54,960 it, it's much easier to replace a rock 1894 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,560 than a concrete wall, 1895 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,480 >> right? So there's kind of mixed um 1896 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:02,480 reviews on on what you do as far as 1897 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:05,040 height and what the material is. Um I 1898 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,239 don't know that's really engineering 1899 01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:08,719 technical stuff as it is more of um when 1900 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:12,000 they're looking at safety um 1901 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000 replaceability aesthetic stuff like 1902 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:14,560 that. 1903 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,400 >> I just wondered I've always wondered 1904 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:16,880 like 1905 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,120 >> I know some people don't because you 1906 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,199 can't see through. So I do hear reports 1907 01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:22,400 back I wish we didn't have those so we 1908 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,520 could see through there but 1909 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,960 >> but when you talk to some of the 1910 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,320 designers around about they say it's 1911 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,360 actually not a bad thing because it 1912 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,560 slows people down more. 1913 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,280 >> Yeah. Do we think that um I don't know 1914 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,239 Sherry you're online but if PTR would 1915 01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:37,920 look at the possibility of of how we 1916 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,320 would like to to have that if it's 1917 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,840 changed at all but also maybe a campaign 1918 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,679 to um get donations for that statue of 1919 01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:50,800 some sort. I think that citizens would 1920 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,520 think that was a cool idea and and maybe 1921 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,880 some of our um some people would want to 1922 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,280 donate extra and some people would want 1923 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,280 to donate a little bit, but I think that 1924 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,800 would be a worthy ask from the parks and 1925 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,920 trails committee. 1926 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,719 >> Okay. 1927 01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:12,880 And we do have some sculptors in town 1928 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,000 that might 1929 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,760 >> That's who I want one from. But that'll 1930 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,640 be 1931 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,199 >> they might they might be willing to give 1932 01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:22,159 us the friends and family discount. 1933 01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:23,600 >> Yeah, you're still paying for bronze. 1934 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,880 >> Well, yeah, you're still paying a lot of 1935 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,880 money, but it might not be 100,000. 1936 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,400 Maybe it's only going to be 1937 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,040 >> 40,000. 1938 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,280 >> So, I have spoken with Mark already on 1939 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,840 front. Um, and well, I've most mostly 1940 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,280 spoken to his wife because she's the 1941 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,000 business end. 1942 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,520 >> Yeah. So he has an eagle, a bald eagle 1943 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,239 that is called Liberty and it stands 1944 01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:45,440 about 6 feet tall and so it's kind of an 1945 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:47,760 eagle flying, you know, a lot of time 1946 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,040 come in. 1947 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,640 >> Well, elk is kind of in Elk Ridge, 1948 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,480 right? And so there's been thoughts on 1949 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:57,120 maybe not an elk simply because our 1950 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,960 neighboring city is Elk Ridge. Um, and 1951 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,120 us it'd be a little presumptive, but 1952 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,960 >> I don't think so. We're the ones that 1953 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,440 get the elk at the round belt. Did you 1954 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,120 see them there yesterday? They were 1955 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,880 >> But has no elk. 1956 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,560 >> If we get something that he's already 1957 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,600 sculpted, there is a much lower price 1958 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,600 cuz then all he has to do is cast in wax 1959 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,520 and then take it to the refin the 1960 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:19,840 >> okay 1961 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,440 >> to the refinery and then he just has to 1962 01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:24,719 get it cast in bronze versus sculpting 1963 01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:27,280 something. So, if you're going to do a 1964 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,560 mountain or boulder stack with an an elk 1965 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,199 on it, that is a very very custom piece 1966 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:38,560 and a bronze at that size. You're 1967 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,520 looking potentially in the six digits, 1968 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,760 >> right? So, we might have to look outside 1969 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,719 of just a a local person. We might look 1970 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:49,120 to the surrounding areas for other 1971 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,679 sculpt. 1972 01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:51,440 >> You're talking 1973 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:52,560 that they sell a lot of. 1974 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,719 >> Yeah. If we go down to Home Depot when 1975 01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:56,640 that aluminum guy's down there, we could 1976 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,080 really score big. 1977 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,159 >> He's out in front of the steakhouse 1978 01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:02,960 usually. Yeah. By Home Depot, right? 1979 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,600 Think of that guy. 1980 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,199 >> We could get We could get a steak and 1981 01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:06,320 then check out the 1982 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,239 >> He also sells little green men. That 1983 01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:09,280 would be fun. We could throw a few 1984 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:09,679 aliens, 1985 01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:11,280 >> but I know there's a few sculptures. I 1986 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,000 mean, a few cities have sculpture 1987 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,679 sculptures in their city, and we could 1988 01:16:15,679 --> 01:16:16,719 maybe ask 1989 01:16:16,719 --> 01:16:18,960 >> the city that they have the 1990 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,120 >> um Springfield has quite a few. 1991 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,640 >> I 1992 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,800 um at the entrance of of uh Snow Canyon. 1993 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,440 I know I mean this is 15 20 years ago. 1994 01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:31,280 They spent about a million dollars on 1995 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:32,960 the round about all the statues in the 1996 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,080 middle of it 1997 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,880 >> and they're like super custom bronze. I 1998 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,320 know the developer that that worked that 1999 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,080 through with the city. 2000 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,239 the fire guys are just a fire tornado 2001 01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:45,679 that just 2002 01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:49,040 >> No, 2003 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,880 I try not to cut you guys off too much, 2004 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,120 but we're moving that helicopter. 2005 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,560 >> We are moving on. 2006 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,600 >> Sherry has her hand up. 2007 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,440 >> Sherry, I'll let you talk here now. 2008 01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:02,000 >> I'm I'm as PTR, I'm willing to put a, 2009 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,600 you know, a blurb out there on the 2010 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,520 Facebook page what the community would 2011 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,239 like to see just so we can get community 2012 01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:10,400 input. Um, 2013 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,000 >> yeah. Yeah. 2014 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:12,320 >> Yeah. 2015 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,159 >> No, I think that would be great if uh if 2016 01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:16,239 you could before you send that, Sherry, 2017 01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:18,960 could you just send me the the the print 2018 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,880 copy on that, the text that you want to 2019 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,760 send out? 2020 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,199 >> You bet. 2021 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,040 >> Thank you. 2022 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,320 Okay, perfect. 2023 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,679 What do you got next? 2024 01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:32,960 >> Um Oh, see this page right here? You 2025 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,719 guys just get comfortable. Um 2026 01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:38,960 just kid one last thing, and this is 2027 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,640 nothing to make a decision on. just 2028 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,920 wanted to see what the council's 2029 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,800 appetite is for this um to see how far I 2030 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:45,840 pursue it. But um 2031 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,760 >> no, 2032 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,679 >> there is there is a helicopter that's 2033 01:17:49,679 --> 01:17:51,679 for sale that's 2034 01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:54,000 >> So I've been looking into warning signs 2035 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,400 um for our fire station. 2036 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,159 >> So these would be warning signs that 2037 01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:00,159 would replace So right now we have these 2038 01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:02,080 a firet truck here sign a fire truck 2039 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,480 down there. Uh they're just fire station 2040 01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:06,560 type signs. These are actually warning 2041 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,080 signs that would activate when we come 2042 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,000 in the station. There would be a button 2043 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,480 we would hit that would flash those 2044 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,800 lights to warn traffic were actually 2045 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,040 leaving the station and then they would 2046 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,960 be active for like 5 minutes, give us 2047 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,719 time to get gone and then they and then 2048 01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:23,760 they deactivate. 2049 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:24,719 >> That's a great idea. 2050 01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:27,840 >> Um so it requires a bit of an equipment 2051 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,360 setup. Um it would be a couple of signs 2052 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,800 and then you would need a repeater 2053 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,520 because on one side it would have to 2054 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,640 come as a they have to set up the 2055 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,159 equipment in station for the button 2056 01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:39,440 everything the antenna that would then 2057 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:41,600 talk but it can't reach the one sign so 2058 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:42,800 it would have to have a repeater over 2059 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,080 here that then reaches down to that 2060 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,080 sign. I think this would be okay. Bottom 2061 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,800 line is is we're roughly looking in the 2062 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,719 neighborhood of probably 20 to 25,000 2063 01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:54,800 set those up. Um, so nothing to make a 2064 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,880 decision on, but I've just been working 2065 01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,320 with a guy to figure this out. Um, 2066 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,840 it's always been, I think, 2067 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,239 nerve-wracking, uh, for our department 2068 01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,400 when we're leaving because we get a lot 2069 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,960 of people flying up and down these hills 2070 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,480 and when we're leaving lights and 2071 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:12,159 sirens, 2072 01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:14,560 um, sometimes, you know, it's hard for 2073 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,320 people to catch their brakes when we're 2074 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,560 coming out or we have to catch our 2075 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:19,120 brakes. 2076 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,199 >> It's such a blind spot. And it is a 2077 01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:23,600 blind spot. So it's kind of a a warning 2078 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,320 system that would flash when 2079 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,360 >> that when we hit 2080 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,320 >> that makes sense. 2081 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,840 >> Um so it would catch their attention. 2082 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,880 Wouldn't be flashing all the time 2083 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,320 because the problem with flashing all 2084 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,679 the times that people get used to them 2085 01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:35,520 then they don't know when it's emergency 2086 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,040 or not but they would flash when we're 2087 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,880 hitting a button beating. 2088 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,199 >> So the resident that's right there 2089 01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:42,880 across the street on the corner, he's 2090 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,239 kind of extra happy. So where would 2091 01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,105 these signs be? Would they not be 2092 01:19:48,105 --> 01:19:49,199 [clears throat] on his property? 2093 01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:50,480 Hopefully. 2094 01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:52,480 >> So, they would almost be about where the 2095 01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:53,440 >> It's kind of grumpy 2096 01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:55,440 >> current sign is. 2097 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,520 >> So, there's one up here. 2098 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,120 >> It would be about where that sign is up 2099 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,400 here. If you when you come down to look 2100 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:01,760 at that fire station, 2101 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,239 >> the one down here would actually go down 2102 01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:05,440 uh you know this house right here on the 2103 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:06,719 corner has the driveway that comes out 2104 01:20:06,719 --> 01:20:07,920 kind of right on the band. It would go 2105 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,679 kind of below his driveway down there. 2106 01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:11,920 >> Oh, [clears throat] okay. 2107 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:12,560 >> Yeah, 2108 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:13,920 >> I can talk to both of them. That'd be 2109 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,360 good. And we'd have to put a repeater 2110 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,880 right here in the corner of our city 2111 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,080 facility to get the signal down to it. 2112 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,280 And that was the guy I kind of went 2113 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,880 through, but anyway, think about um 2114 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,719 >> Yeah, I think because you could use it 2115 01:20:26,719 --> 01:20:30,239 for that for when you when eventually, 2116 01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:33,440 you know, for fire or ambulance or even 2117 01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:35,600 snowplow coming out because, you know, 2118 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,600 those are big equipments, too. And 2119 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,719 unless you see the light, you you know 2120 01:20:40,719 --> 01:20:41,199 and I 2121 01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:42,640 >> Okay. I backed out of my driveway one 2122 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,360 time and Ben took me out. It was fun. 2123 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:46,239 >> The snowplow. 2124 01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:47,360 >> Yeah. 2125 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,040 >> I had to dive off in the ditch once Corp 2126 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,480 was driving the big orange one day. 2127 01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:53,120 >> Yeah. 2128 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,960 >> See, there's a difference between almost 2129 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,960 and did. 2130 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,400 >> Yeah. I flipped out and he was right 2131 01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,840 there and I went, "Oh, 2132 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,239 >> that was John. That wasn't me. 2133 01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:03,280 >> That was you." 2134 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,199 >> This has always been a concern. One one 2135 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,361 accident, you know. I mean, the 2136 01:21:07,361 --> 01:21:11,199 [laughter] the challenge is when you're responding in an emergency, 2137 01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:13,280 you're going to help somebody. If we end 2138 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,120 up in a wreck now, not only we not 2139 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,560 helping that person, but we've created 2140 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,480 another incident. 2141 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:20,159 >> So, sometimes you got to look at the 2142 01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:22,159 value of money versus 2143 01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:25,040 >> value of life. So, 2144 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:25,440 >> yeah, 2145 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:26,719 >> I think that's all I got. 2146 01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:27,840 >> Perfect. 2147 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,800 >> Thanks. 2148 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,120 >> Okay, Wayne, planning commission and 2149 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,950 code enforcement. 2150 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,360 » All's good. 2151 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,120 You've seen our new city offices out 2152 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,040 here in the parking lot. 2153 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,600 >> Yeah, I was wondering about those. 2154 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,719 >> Um, that'll be our new mailboxes. 2155 01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:48,320 >> Um, 2156 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:48,719 so 2157 01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:51,600 >> temporary mailboxes. [laughter] 2158 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,360 >> We don't we don't we don't know when 2159 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,239 those will be in effect though because 2160 01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:57,920 that might not be delayed. 2161 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,040 >> It it's it there's several moving parts 2162 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:02,960 to that. One is when the where the 2163 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,000 county is going to start working on on 2164 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:13,679 the roundabout down there and then the uh the demo of our current mailboxes 2165 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:17,120 down there. The the new mail part of the 2166 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,360 new mailboxes sufficient for our city 2167 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,000 have been ordered. Uh Three Bridges has 2168 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,639 ordered those. So, uh we're waiting for 2169 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:27,360 their arrival. I would anticipate 2170 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,600 sometime in the next couple of weeks. 2171 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,080 They're willing to store them for us 2172 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,440 until we have this container built out 2173 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,560 and framed so that the mailbox is their 2174 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:46,159 insert so that they will insert into the trailer. Uh once once the new 2175 01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:48,560 facility is available, those inserts 2176 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,280 will come out and we'll move them down 2177 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,760 to the new new facility. it'll already 2178 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,800 be marked with names and addresses and 2179 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,920 so forth. So, that'll take care of that. 2180 01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:03,360 We're um this is a container that was 2181 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,760 over at the the salt shed and we was 2182 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,679 being used for storage. We took all the 2183 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:11,440 stuff out of it that's sitting out over 2184 01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:18,880 there. Some of it needs to be um more protected. We have a a smaller 2185 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:23,199 container up at the uh um water tank and 2186 01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:25,440 tomorrow we're moving that to the salt 2187 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,840 shed and will be used in to put maybe 2188 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,760 some of these more environmental 2189 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,950 sensitive things, lumbering 2190 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,000 equipment. 2191 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,880 >> Um how are we because it's anticipated 2192 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,360 it's going to be very hot this summer. 2193 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,199 How are we going to be cooling that 2194 01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:46,400 facility? Oh yeah, we needed Well, what 2195 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,840 happened to my blanket? I'm saying I'm 2196 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,040 freezing, too. 2197 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,480 >> I didn't know that. 2198 01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:51,520 >> Oh my word. 2199 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,120 >> Well, well, I got up to look at the 2200 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:53,840 thing. 2201 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,120 >> You got me a Thank you. 2202 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,639 >> You're spoiled. It's because she's mayor 2203 01:23:58,639 --> 01:23:59,840 of pro temp. She gets everything. 2204 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,600 >> No, no, no. It's just [laughter] I made 2205 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,280 friends with them in St. George because 2206 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:04,239 right there. 2207 01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,880 >> I know in here. Why are you with us to 2208 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,760 see if we can fix it? But it's cold. 2209 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,600 I want to know about the cooling system 2210 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,000 of this as people, especially those who 2211 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,000 have to walk in all the way to the back 2212 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,400 and and get their mail out. How are we 2213 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,159 going to keep that temperature not 2214 01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:21,760 getting extra hot? 2215 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,520 >> I I would think with the with the 2216 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:26,159 >> or not 2217 01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:28,239 >> with the 30 m 30 seconds that it takes 2218 01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:30,639 them to walk into that facility, they 2219 01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:32,080 can keep their car running and jump 2220 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,480 right back into air conditioner car. 2221 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:34,800 Mhm. 2222 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,639 >> Uh if need be to, we could probably put 2223 01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:39,760 a fan, just a a air fan in there. 2224 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,203 >> We have a circulation fan, and if 2225 01:24:42,203 --> 01:24:43,520 [clears throat] it really gets to that 2226 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,400 point, we will figure something. 2227 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,040 >> We need to put some roof vents. That 2228 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,719 would make it 2229 01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:52,960 >> there. There's already a vent in there 2230 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,480 for in uh on on the corners for 2231 01:24:56,480 --> 01:24:57,360 circulation. 2232 01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,040 >> I can donate. I have a big fan. 2233 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,480 >> We just don't want anybody calling 2234 01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:04,000 Dudson saying, "Hey, 2235 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,560 the city has is doing something and 2236 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,480 there will be cameras on it as well. 2237 01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:09,920 >> Yes, cameras we know cameras. 2238 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,120 >> So, a suggestion's been made that we uh 2239 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,600 have a little city contest. Think about 2240 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:20,560 it uh for uh kids and artists to draw to 2241 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,280 tag the the container somewhere or 2242 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,040 another and then maybe have 2243 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,400 >> have a judgment of it and award somebody 2244 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,880 >> name the temporary mailboxes contest. Is 2245 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:31,520 that what you're talking about? 2246 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,440 >> No. to the 2247 01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:35,760 >> Oh, to like spray painting, graffiti. 2248 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:36,400 Yeah, 2249 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,400 >> however they would want to end up on 2250 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,719 Jod's G. Urban Art. 2251 01:25:40,719 --> 01:25:42,560 >> No. [laughter] 2252 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,400 >> Well, I was thinking of also another 2253 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:49,520 option would be to have it tagged in a 2254 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,560 more professional way with regards to 2255 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,159 our America 250. 2256 01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:55,360 >> Oh, that might be fun. 2257 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,320 >> Um, so maybe a big huge flag, an eagle, 2258 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,880 big two something. But maybe what we do 2259 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,199 is we have a submitt on the design of it 2260 01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:07,520 versus the actual tagging. 2261 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:08,719 >> Yeah. 2262 01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:11,199 >> But sometimes that might be a good idea. 2263 01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:13,920 >> Keep that in mind with as we go forward 2264 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,179 >> with any ideas. 2265 01:26:17,179 --> 01:26:18,639 [clears throat] 2266 01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:20,880 >> It's all container so we can kind of do 2267 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,320 with it as we want. 2268 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,480 >> Yeah. There's probably a few people. I 2269 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:26,719 mean I'm trying to think of the mayor 2270 01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:29,840 who does this. Um and because they were 2271 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,360 getting so many people tagging around 2272 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,120 the city and instead he went to him and 2273 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,639 said, "Hey, um if you'll stop this and 2274 01:26:38,639 --> 01:26:41,920 clean up, each of you can have can put 2275 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,719 in your tagging." And they would do one 2276 01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:46,639 section every month and the person will 2277 01:26:46,639 --> 01:26:48,800 come and do it and and so that they 2278 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,800 still had an outlet for tagging, but 2279 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,120 they were chosen then so that they 2280 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,280 wouldn't do it somewhere else. But I bet 2281 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,880 you there's somebody who who's good at 2282 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,480 it. We could use a salt shed for 2283 01:26:58,480 --> 01:26:59,440 something like that. 2284 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:02,719 >> No, we're not tagging the buildings. 2285 01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:04,159 >> Well, it's right next to the golf 2286 01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:05,440 course. Maybe they would appreciate 2287 01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,199 >> We're not starting that 2288 01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:11,360 >> on on code enforcement. Uh there's we've 2289 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,480 got three complaints and one's resolved 2290 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:16,320 and we're working on the other two. So, 2291 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:17,679 just for your information, 2292 01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:19,520 >> have we sent them through the the new 2293 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:20,800 form? 2294 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,000 >> No. 2295 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,400 >> Okay. Let's send them through the new 2296 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:24,880 form. 2297 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:25,920 >> We're working on that. 2298 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:26,960 >> Perfect. I'm 2299 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,280 >> not doing it. [laughter] 2300 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,760 >> Okay. Thank you, Wayne. 2301 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,760 >> Okay. Uh, mayor and city council 2302 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,320 reports. Um, 2303 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,199 personnel. Um, everything is going well 2304 01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:40,880 and I do have an update. We'll actually 2305 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,400 I'm going to request that we go into 2306 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,639 close session for personnel u matter. Um 2307 01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:50,080 legal update really there isn't too much 2308 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,719 um beyond your question during the 2309 01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:55,440 financials there Steve is we are 2310 01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:57,360 currently covering both sets of 2311 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,199 attorneys and thus that number is so 2312 01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:01,360 high um and we're looking at that 2313 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,960 strategically in a number of different 2314 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,520 ways potentially. So 2315 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,679 um Council Member Hutchings Planning 2316 01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:12,310 Commission. 2317 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,800 » Sorry about that. Um, so with the 2318 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,800 planning commission, 2319 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,920 Wayne, you're supposed to take care of 2320 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,560 that for me. I don't think you did. 2321 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,719 Um, 2322 01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:24,719 they the the planning commission talked 2323 01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:29,199 about the conditional use um for three 2324 01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:32,800 bridges for the um 2325 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,760 uh the rock crushing and and the the 2326 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,480 sifting of the of the material. Um, and 2327 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,400 they recommended to go ahead and and 2328 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,239 pass that on to us. again we had that 2329 01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:45,760 discussion already. Um and they talked 2330 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,239 about 2331 01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:52,310 oh the 2332 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,400 um 2333 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,239 the plat the new plat uh for the Summit 2334 01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:02,870 Creek. Um 2335 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,719 and I believe I believe that was pretty 2336 01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:09,280 much it. Uh so that's all I've got for them. 2337 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,560 >> Wonderful. Um, I actually forgot. Uh, I 2338 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,000 do have Aaron here for emergency 2339 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,030 management. 2340 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,120 I guess I have four items to share with 2341 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:24,070 you guys. 2342 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,840 Uh, today I was at the county EM meeting 2343 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,639 and we listened to the 2344 01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:33,360 um the National Weather Service 2345 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,280 representative. um he's giving us an 2346 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,480 update in regards to forecasts of this 2347 01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:41,679 summer's potential weather to expect and 2348 01:29:41,679 --> 01:29:44,000 particularly in relationship to our fire 2349 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:49,440 risks. Um he said that um we are we've 2350 01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:51,679 already had in the past 6 months the 2351 01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:53,920 highest record temperatures in our 2352 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,480 history. So, [gasps] 2353 01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:58,719 it's translated into a very low snow 2354 01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:03,440 melt a snow um pack and which right now 2355 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:06,880 our water that we've got in the city in the state is actually not bad. The 2356 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,239 problem is the snow melt that usually 2357 01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:12,960 comes in May, June, July is not going to 2358 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,000 be there. And so they're expecting 2359 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,760 particularly for this area here, June 2360 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,120 and July will be the above normal fire 2361 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:26,480 activity that we should be aware of in 2362 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:27,760 we already knew that was probably going 2363 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,520 to be the case, right? So I'm just kind 2364 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,159 of 2365 01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:34,560 selling it to the choir. But what I want 2366 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,719 to propose is a fire drill that our city 2367 01:30:38,719 --> 01:30:41,600 has citywide. Not that we actually leave 2368 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,120 the city, but we act like we're going to 2369 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,480 and don't. Um, that we test our 2370 01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:50,560 communication system with uh the general 2371 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,560 public. We test the ability of them to 2372 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,480 be able to respond back to us, letting 2373 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:56,719 us know that they're evacuated. 2374 01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:59,760 Um, and then test our internal staff on 2375 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,120 how they're going to react to it by 2376 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,520 setting up our EOC system and testing 2377 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,520 everybody's skill levels and be able to 2378 01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,239 do that. So, I'm proposing a date of 2379 01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:11,520 June 20th. It's a Saturday 10:00 a.m. 2380 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,040 and I don't know if there's a conflict. 2381 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,840 >> Not on the city calendar that I'm aware 2382 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,000 of. No, no events or anything. 2383 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,920 >> Okay. 2384 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,760 Um if that's okay. 2385 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,679 >> Is that Father's Day weekend? 2386 01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:27,199 >> That's what I'm thinking. 2387 01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:28,400 >> First is Father's Day. 2388 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:28,719 >> Yeah. 2389 01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:31,040 >> But sometimes people go out of town, but 2390 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,639 it's all right because they would they 2391 01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:34,800 would notify that they're not in town. 2392 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,560 >> This is Father's Day, not Mother's Day. 2393 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,280 We'll be fine. 2394 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,443 >> Yeah. 2395 01:31:39,443 --> 01:31:41,360 >> [laughter] 2396 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,400 >> Come on. 2397 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,000 >> There's lots of 2398 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,239 >> So, if you guys agree to that, I've got 2399 01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:47,840 >> coordinate with our staff cuz if he's 2400 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,840 gone, that's not going to be good. 2401 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,880 >> Yeah. Let's Let's bring this to staff 2402 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:53,760 meeting on Monday. 2403 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:54,320 >> Okay. 2404 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,840 >> There's a lot of planning we got to do. 2405 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,679 >> Yeah. Okay. So, you guys go that then 2406 01:31:57,679 --> 01:31:59,280 I've got a timeline to get things done 2407 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,040 by so that we can prepare and do the 2408 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,880 best results. But even if people are out 2409 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,440 of town, that's part of the process is 2410 01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:07,280 be them being able to send a 2411 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,040 notification. I am not home. 2412 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,480 >> Correct. And that's what I expect to 2413 01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:11,920 happen. And I want to coach people to 2414 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,520 let us know that yes, they're in Hawaii 2415 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,199 on vacation. Don't worry about them. 2416 01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:17,360 Their house is empty and things like 2417 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,000 that. Um so that was 2418 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,280 >> although they might want you to save 2419 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,040 their chicken. 2420 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,600 >> That's possible. Yeah. 2421 01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,920 for we might want to talk about, you 2422 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,440 know, that in our staff meeting, how we 2423 01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:32,480 might help people with their animals. 2424 01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:35,520 >> Um, then 2425 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,520 give you an update on the generator. I 2426 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,040 might have found a way to save us 2427 01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,679 $20,000 on that. 2428 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:42,080 Say, 2429 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,639 >> yay. Yay. Yeah. 2430 01:32:44,639 --> 01:32:47,280 >> Um but it would require us to hardwire 2431 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,840 the generator to the building um to be 2432 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,840 able to shortcut that $20,000 cost 2433 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,600 because part of the $20,000 cost was a 2434 01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,360 stupid coupling. 2435 01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,280 >> And hard wiring I found out is actually 2436 01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,760 just as um um good and a lot cheaper. 2437 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,920 Just requires us to have a a qualified 2438 01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,159 electrician do the wiring, which we kind 2439 01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:09,679 of know a few of those. At least one. 2440 01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:10,560 >> We know a few of them. 2441 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,199 >> Yeah. So, I was going to pursue that and 2442 01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:14,480 give you guys a new update on that on 2443 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:15,920 the next city council meeting. So, you 2444 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,360 guys can say, "Hey, we're good with 2445 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,880 saving 20 grand and we'll move forward 2446 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,719 with the other expenses." 2447 01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:22,239 >> Okay. 2448 01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:24,239 >> Um and then also I mentioned last uh 2449 01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:25,760 council meeting that I told you there 2450 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,440 was a service that the county has. It 2451 01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:31,199 tells us about what happens to um 2452 01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:33,520 during a major disaster where a facility 2453 01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,120 down in the valley catches a fire and 2454 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,040 blows up and then the plume has 2455 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,639 accumulated. 2456 01:33:38,639 --> 01:33:40,320 uh just let you know I got access to 2457 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,960 that today. So we'll be able to take a 2458 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:44,639 look at that service and see which 2459 01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:48,880 businesses are within a certain range of [snorts] hills that could affect us 2460 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,520 and if there's none then I'll check that 2461 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:52,000 off. 2462 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,080 >> The other thing is if there's a if there 2463 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,080 was a chemical spill on the freeway or 2464 01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,880 even in highway 6 sometimes those plumes 2465 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,360 can come up and over as well depending 2466 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:02,560 on the jetream. 2467 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,120 >> Okay. So uh just giving you the updates 2468 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,360 on those things. I think there's 2469 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,960 >> you want to mention the earthquake. 2470 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:09,840 Yeah. 2471 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,760 >> Um yeah, I was going to mention that in 2472 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:13,360 the earth in the emergency manager 2473 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:14,880 meeting this morning saying that we we 2474 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,920 activated our EOC for a 2.5 2475 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:18,880 earthquake. [laughter] 2476 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,440 >> I know our EOC was everybody texting. 2477 01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:23,199 Did you did you fill that? Did you fill 2478 01:34:23,199 --> 01:34:24,320 up? 2479 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,040 >> Um yeah, we talked about it. This is at 2480 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:28,639 the county level, but everybody kind of 2481 01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:32,550 laughed at me. So [laughter] 2482 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,159 » I had sent a text to them all. Did you 2483 01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,000 guys just fill that? They're like, "No, 2484 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,360 >> they were laughing at you, too." So, 2485 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,960 >> I know, [laughter] 2486 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,719 >> but it it's a good wake up call for 2487 01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:42,719 those who um have never felt an 2488 01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:44,000 earthquake. If they did feel it, it's 2489 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:44,800 kind of cool. But 2490 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,400 >> and heard it coming from it was a 2491 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:46,880 hearing. 2492 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,239 >> Coming from California, I don't 2493 01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:49,840 recognize anything unless it's over 2494 01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:50,400 four. 2495 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:51,679 >> Same. 2496 01:34:51,679 --> 01:34:52,000 >> Yeah. 2497 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,600 >> But I did think of you when everyone 2498 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,280 texted on the board. 2499 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,280 >> I'm like, Aaron's going to like this. 2500 01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,719 >> Yeah, I [laughter] saw it. 2501 01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:00,480 >> What was funny is there were a few 2502 01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:02,239 people that were a little dramatic about 2503 01:35:02,239 --> 01:35:04,000 it on Facebook and I just kind of 2504 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,400 chuckled. I'm like, you know, my house 2505 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,480 just made a weird noise. 2506 01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:08,800 >> Okay, 2507 01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:09,840 >> that was about it. 2508 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,520 >> Any other questions? That's my four 2509 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:12,320 things. 2510 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:13,440 >> No. 2511 01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:14,560 >> All right. 2512 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,080 >> Okay. Council member Johns, public 2513 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,040 safety. 2514 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,320 >> Um, yeah. So, we we had a meeting just 2515 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,440 before the previous council meeting. Um, 2516 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,199 and, uh, that was just before the Maple 2517 01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,520 Days as well. So, just talking about the 2518 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,880 events coming up this this year. Um, 2519 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,800 just making sure that we're ready with 2520 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,320 different needs. 2521 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,600 Nothing too exciting on that front. Um, 2522 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,920 this this Saturday though, we do want to 2523 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,679 let everybody know we're doing the fire 2524 01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:44,639 and EMS expo. So, that will be down at 2525 01:35:44,639 --> 01:35:46,880 the park. Uh, we will have lifelight 2526 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,120 helicopter. We're going to be doing a 2527 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,800 demonstration on some of the jaws of 2528 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,560 life and some of those tools and things 2529 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,159 like that. So, it's going to be a 2530 01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:55,360 >> starts at 11. 2531 01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:56,880 >> Uh, 11, right? 2532 01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:57,760 >> 11 to two. 2533 01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,480 >> 11 to one. 2534 01:35:58,480 --> 01:35:59,040 >> 11 to1. 2535 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,239 >> No, I have 11 to two. 2536 01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:00,960 >> 11 to two. 2537 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,400 >> That's so you can help clean up. 2538 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,000 >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, [laughter] 2539 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,239 I thought it was a lemon one, but some 2540 01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:08,159 people might see 2541 01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:12,159 >> Dan's been doing advertising and he's done some really cool graphics and 2542 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:13,360 stuff for it. So, 2543 01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:14,239 >> yeah, 2544 01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:14,880 >> fun. 2545 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,000 >> Yeah. 2546 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,520 >> So, we'll we'll have some lunch. We 2547 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,120 should have enough lunch this time, too. 2548 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:19,360 And 2549 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,960 >> yeah, last year we ran out of food. 2550 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,239 >> Hot dogs and chili. 2551 01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:23,679 >> Yeah, sweet. 2552 01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:24,480 >> Um, 2553 01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,239 >> which is crazy. 2554 01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:28,320 >> So, part of that and and this will be 2555 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,320 really good for the residents um 2556 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,760 springboarding off what Aaron was 2557 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,920 talking about. It is a dry year. We've 2558 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,199 already had a lot of um brush calls, 2559 01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:39,920 wildland calls. Um and it's probably 2560 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,360 just going to be a dry summer. So um we 2561 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,000 want we're going to have a signup booth 2562 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,040 where anybody can can get a what are we 2563 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,280 calling it? Consultation appointment 2564 01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,360 with with the fire department so that we 2565 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,880 can come and assess your property, just 2566 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,360 make sure it's safe. Not in any sort of 2567 01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,639 a violation catchway, but a hey, how can 2568 01:37:00,639 --> 01:37:02,800 we help you improve? what kind of ideas. 2569 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,600 So, so, um, we will have that and we 2570 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,280 would encourage everybody to get their 2571 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,560 neighbors out because the more of that 2572 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,440 we can do, it's good for all of us. So, 2573 01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:12,960 >> and I know there's several several 2574 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,119 people in town, especially some youth, 2575 01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:17,840 who have advertised that if you get your 2576 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,000 assessment, they'll come in and and you 2577 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,440 can pay them relatively uh 2578 01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:26,159 >> affordable to get that mitigation work 2579 01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,560 done. and and we might encourage some of 2580 01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,119 those who have posted to be near there 2581 01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:34,639 so that they can hand out their flyer. 2582 01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:39,119 >> Yeah, if anybody knows of those that would be great. So 2583 01:37:39,119 --> 01:37:40,000 yeah, 2584 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,840 >> you think you can have we can set up 2585 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,840 some room for them to put their flyers 2586 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,320 up, especially for the youth. Um but 2587 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,400 even like Preston 2588 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,880 not not a not a bad idea. I mean a city 2589 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,360 our our wildland crew does it. Um, we've 2590 01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,520 got youth and we've got Preston and some 2591 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,880 other people that might be willing to do 2592 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,440 that. And we can set up a table. That's 2593 01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,280 a really good idea, Carrie, to set up a 2594 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,159 table there that they can kind of give 2595 01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:06,080 them contacts. 2596 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,199 >> Yeah, I think that'd be a great idea. 2597 01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:11,679 So, we're we're just hoping we can get a 2598 01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:14,480 real heavy community involvement just 2599 01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:15,840 because it will will be 2600 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,280 >> maybe one other thing to mention as part 2601 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,679 of that is many of you know the state 2602 01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:22,480 has put out a new severity map uh to 2603 01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:24,960 determine if you your house is actually 2604 01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:29,360 located in an extreme wildland area. Um, 2605 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,040 we'll have a computer up there. We can 2606 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,920 pull up an address and show people where 2607 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,159 they're at or what the state, now once 2608 01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:37,679 again, this is a state map, not a city 2609 01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:41,280 map. Uh, what they have assessed their 2610 01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,000 area to be in extreme. We're all in a 2611 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,040 fairly severe, but a portion of the city 2612 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:48,960 is extreme. So, people could look at 2613 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,400 that and see what kind of how that 2614 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:51,600 affects them. As you know, House Bill 2615 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,360 48, they're going to start charging a 2616 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:54,639 fee for those that are in extreme 2617 01:38:54,639 --> 01:38:56,800 wildland areas. Uh the fee has been 2618 01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,263 delayed till 2027 now, but um 2619 01:39:00,263 --> 01:39:01,520 [clears throat] but we can show them on 2620 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,440 the map and show them how to get to the 2621 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:05,520 map. Uh that way they can know and then 2622 01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,920 we can look at uh like Steve said 2623 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,440 consultation with them 2624 01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:10,560 >> to figure out what they do at their 2625 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:11,280 houses and stuff like that. 2626 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:12,960 >> Well, and also some of those because 2627 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,280 those maps are out, there have been some 2628 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,040 insurance companies who have looked at 2629 01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,280 the map and then made changes to 2630 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,600 insurance based on those maps that have 2631 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,920 nothing to do with the city. It is those 2632 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,400 state maps. And so that might be another 2633 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,000 way we can inform the residents um of 2634 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,840 why their insurance company may be 2635 01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,239 talking to them about the wildland 2636 01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:36,159 interface ordinance and this new state 2637 01:39:36,159 --> 01:39:36,880 law. 2638 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,480 >> A lot of people are aware of it because 2639 01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:41,119 I've gotten lots of inquiries about it. 2640 01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:41,840 >> Yeah. 2641 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,199 >> We can show them how to look it up and 2642 01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:44,400 show their house, that kind of stuff, 2643 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:45,600 too. 2644 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,520 Oh, well, some residents think that that 2645 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,600 map is the city's map and I've been 2646 01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,760 telling them, "No, it's a state map, but 2647 01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,000 we we need to just maybe that would be a 2648 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,159 way for them to maybe understand it a 2649 01:39:56,159 --> 01:39:58,480 little better." 2650 01:39:58,480 --> 01:39:59,600 >> What was that answer? 2651 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,280 >> I'm curious if there is any anything 2652 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,520 that needs to be done at the park 2653 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,560 regarding, you know, do we need to clear 2654 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,320 any areas? It could be a service 2655 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,480 activity where people are learning 2656 01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:12,159 exactly how it's done, 2657 01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:14,400 >> how to look at it in conjunction with 2658 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:15,040 this. 2659 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,440 >> It's a great idea. In fact, that's 2660 01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:17,840 >> Yeah. 2661 01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:18,560 >> Perfect. 2662 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,320 >> Yeah. I I think that's a great thing and 2663 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,600 maybe that's something we can we can 2664 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:28,639 merge with the uh uh with Sher and your parks and wreck stuff because um I 2665 01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:30,000 think there's plenty of opportunity that 2666 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,560 we could do like clearing training and 2667 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,000 things like that. There was a ward that 2668 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,000 was going to do some clearing and 2669 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,960 cleaning up right before um the maple 2670 01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:40,639 festival, but then it snowed. 2671 01:40:40,639 --> 01:40:43,760 >> Well, we were still there. 2672 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,040 >> They were still there in the snow. 2673 01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:46,080 >> All right. Good job. 2674 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:46,960 >> It was 2675 01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,880 >> It [laughter] was a I wondered. 2676 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,000 >> Yeah, they still went. 2677 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,440 >> Yeah. Square Donuts, I think, or 2678 01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:52,719 something. 2679 01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:54,560 >> So So bottom line is there will be 2680 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,159 something for everybody. I mean, even if 2681 01:40:56,159 --> 01:40:58,719 you're an adult, we'll we'll give you a 2682 01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:00,880 chance to run some hoses and see what 2683 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,119 kind of water pressure there is and, you 2684 01:41:03,119 --> 01:41:08,159 know, drag some things around and it's really pretty fun. So, 2685 01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:09,679 >> we're going to have extrication tools up 2686 01:41:09,679 --> 01:41:10,639 there this year. 2687 01:41:10,639 --> 01:41:12,639 >> Yeah. 2688 01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:14,639 >> I'm going to provide vitals. 2689 01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:16,080 >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. And Aaron's going to 2690 01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:17,360 check your vitals, make sure you're 2691 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:18,960 alive. Maybe it would be good to have 2692 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:20,719 some of those reels from the fire 2693 01:41:20,719 --> 01:41:22,880 department and the mayor and stuff to 2694 01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,880 put on social media so people know that 2695 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,119 it's that there's more things this year 2696 01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:29,360 than maybe we've had in the past. 2697 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,440 >> I feel a TED video coming on. 2698 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:33,119 >> Yeah, a TED video would be good. An 2699 01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:33,920 errand video. 2700 01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,810 >> You were very popular last time. 2701 01:41:36,810 --> 01:41:38,320 [laughter] 2702 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,040 >> It's hard to be a star. Just is. 2703 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,080 >> It's a lifestyle. 2704 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,159 >> Yeah, likes to be. But I think that that 2705 01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:46,080 engages the citizens when we have those 2706 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,800 little videos out and you know and and 2707 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,320 then being able to reach out and say, 2708 01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,000 "Hey, if you're if you're one of the 2709 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,440 kids in town that's helping with 2710 01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:55,360 mitigation work, we have a tape for 2711 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:55,679 you." 2712 01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:56,960 >> Yeah. Yeah, that's great. 2713 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,960 >> You know, just a few different videos. 2714 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,119 So, we only got a few days to help get 2715 01:42:01,119 --> 01:42:02,080 you 2716 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,920 >> so that you [laughter] 2717 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,080 actually I don't really like being on 2718 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,840 camera, but it was much uh easier. I 2719 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,239 could explain more went quicker because 2720 01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:14,239 I'm I'm not a typer. That's why I don't 2721 01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:15,679 do a lot of social media and all that 2722 01:42:15,679 --> 01:42:16,320 kind of stuff. 2723 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:16,800 >> Talk about that. 2724 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,560 >> That's why I'm always not my TED talk 2725 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,080 into the newsletter before it goes out. 2726 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,920 >> I got nothing for the newsletter so far. 2727 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:22,560 Nobody said 2728 01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,159 >> so. So So we have three days. 2729 01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:26,320 >> We got two more days. 2730 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,480 >> So we have three days until till it 2731 01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:30,960 happens, right? So if we if Ted did a 2732 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,679 video and Steve did a video and Dan did 2733 01:42:33,679 --> 01:42:36,080 a video, that would give us three days 2734 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,320 of videos on getting people there. 2735 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,159 >> Sure. Is is the emergency manager 2736 01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:41,360 allowed to put anything in the 2737 01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:42,320 newsletter for her? 2738 01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:43,600 >> Absolutely. 2739 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,119 >> Well, maybe Janet. 2740 01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:48,159 >> Yeah, you just you just email it to me. 2741 01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:49,360 >> Okay. 2742 01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,360 >> We we always need more content. We're 2743 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:52,800 always looking for content. 2744 01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,560 >> Okay. I got two days. 2745 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:55,040 >> Perfect. 2746 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:55,840 >> Okay, John. 2747 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,040 >> Well, I got two days to get the 2748 01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:58,800 newsletter done. So, 2749 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,080 >> man with two first names. 2750 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:00,960 >> Yeah, that's [laughter] right. 2751 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:02,880 >> Yeah. The man with two first names. 2752 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,960 >> Wonderful. Janet. 2753 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,719 >> Janet. Um, so I don't have anything 2754 01:43:08,719 --> 01:43:11,920 submitted for the newsletter yet. And 2755 01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:16,800 who who has this month? Brian, 2756 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,646 you may 2757 01:43:19,646 --> 01:43:21,280 [laughter] 2758 01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,280 >> I have a sticky note with everybody on 2759 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,400 there, so it's you. 2760 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,080 >> Thanks. I 2761 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,880 >> I got a couple, too. 2762 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,679 Um, so Brian and Aaron are getting 2763 01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:36,159 things in today tomorrow. And 2764 01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:39,600 >> yeah, and Ted and Wayne. 2765 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,760 >> Well, I can't do both the video and 2766 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,440 >> Yes, you can. Yes, 2767 01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:45,280 >> cuz the newsletter is turning into a 2768 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:49,109 vlog. 2769 01:43:49,119 --> 01:43:53,440 » PTR, we we haven't met. Sher sent me a 2770 01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:57,119 big old text and I was picking my dog up 2771 01:43:57,119 --> 01:44:00,960 from the dog hospital. So, 2772 01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,080 um I'll have to look at it. Um and then 2773 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,480 just on events, we have a couple of 2774 01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:08,880 possible we have a couple of names for 2775 01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,639 possible new chairs for Woodland Hills 2776 01:44:10,639 --> 01:44:12,480 Day. So, we're just um in the very 2777 01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:14,880 beginning, I'm going to reach out to 2778 01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,880 those people in the next couple of days 2779 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,320 and see if they're interested and that 2780 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,560 if I can get somebody hook, line, and 2781 01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:22,800 sinker, a good couple that would help. 2782 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:26,719 Um, the Lowe's will be the senior couple 2783 01:44:26,719 --> 01:44:28,400 that's over with Woodland Hills days and 2784 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,159 this new group will be 2785 01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:32,159 >> if if you need some suggestions. There's 2786 01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:33,840 a couple that I have that might 2787 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,280 >> just text them to me. Um, I've I've got 2788 01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,600 six names, I think, so far, like three 2789 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,920 couples. Um, and I like to have three or 2790 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:43,679 four. So, I usually get turned down a 2791 01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:46,719 few times. So, so that would be good. 2792 01:44:46,719 --> 01:44:48,400 Um, you know, and I thought about 2793 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,000 putting it out there on social media, 2794 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,440 but we we try to pick people that we 2795 01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:55,760 know have have done things or helped in 2796 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,080 the community or have an interest to 2797 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,880 serve. We we kind of do that and try to 2798 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,400 get different parts of the community. 2799 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,400 So, I'm trying to not get people that 2800 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:09,840 are in my area. Um, so we're looking we 2801 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:11,520 one of the names is from Summit Creek. 2802 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:12,639 So, that would be really good to have 2803 01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:14,927 some Summit Creek involvement. 2804 01:45:14,927 --> 01:45:15,679 >> [clears throat] 2805 01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:18,880 >> So, yep. And, um, I think that's all 2806 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,280 that I have. Sher, if you have something 2807 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,159 you wanted me to 2808 01:45:24,159 --> 01:45:25,920 >> add 2809 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,239 because I did not read all of your text, 2810 01:45:28,239 --> 01:45:31,600 but anyway, I think we're good. 2811 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,239 >> Okay. Uh, Council Member Malich, 2812 01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:35,360 legislative updating. 2813 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,000 >> Legislature gave us a I mean, April off, 2814 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,040 but they're on full force for May. Um, 2815 01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,119 May 6th is kind of a big deal. that's 2816 01:45:43,119 --> 01:45:45,280 when all they can all open their bill 2817 01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,639 files for next year. So, um there is 2818 01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:51,040 something that the mayor um gave me to 2819 01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,880 ask uh if we might potentially um look 2820 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,800 into some legislation. So, we're still 2821 01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,719 working on that and as if it happens, 2822 01:45:58,719 --> 01:46:03,520 I'll let you know. Um also, um May 6th 2823 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,840 is the date that all of uh the things 2824 01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,119 some of the things that were passed 2825 01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:09,040 during this last legislative session go 2826 01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,719 into effect. And I'm just going to say a 2827 01:46:10,719 --> 01:46:12,960 couple of them that affect our city. One 2828 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,679 is was House Bill 33, political sign 2829 01:46:15,679 --> 01:46:18,400 amendments. We can't prohibit u people 2830 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,440 from posting on park strips and that we 2831 01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:24,480 have to have a designated area um for 2832 01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:29,199 some signs. And then also um is that on 2833 01:46:29,199 --> 01:46:30,639 >> if they remove city? 2834 01:46:30,639 --> 01:46:33,119 >> Uhhuh. And if they remove some signs, 2835 01:46:33,119 --> 01:46:35,520 there's needs to be a place for them to 2836 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,320 deposit them on city at the city so that 2837 01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:39,600 they can pick them up later because 2838 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,840 they're very expensive. Um, we do know 2839 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,920 that there is a primary election in 2840 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,639 several of the races that our residents 2841 01:46:46,639 --> 01:46:51,280 will um will um participate in. One will 2842 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,840 the primary will be um the congressional 2843 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,360 race 2844 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,480 between Celeste Malloy and Phil Lyman. 2845 01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:00,320 And then we also have a state school 2846 01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,520 board race that is also in a primary. 2847 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,400 Um, another one is local government 2848 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,760 fees, house bill um 425 2849 01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,600 that uh if we choose to do a 2850 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:13,600 transportation fee now we are able to 2851 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,960 after May 6th. Um there's several with 2852 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:18,880 regards to truth and taxation and 2853 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,960 property tax adjustments. Um of course 2854 01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,639 um truth and taxation has to be a 2855 01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:27,280 standalone date now. can't be with 2856 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:28,719 anything else, but there are several 2857 01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:31,600 that have to do with that. Um, a 2858 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,840 landscaping restriction amendment, House 2859 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,800 Bill 215, we cannot prohibit the removal 2860 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,760 of vegetation if they're in a wildland 2861 01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,040 urban interface area, WOOI area. Um, and 2862 01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:44,800 our whole town is, so there's some 2863 01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:48,880 things that may people may do. Um, 2864 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,639 >> they can clearcut their lot if they want 2865 01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:53,280 and I can't say no. 2866 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,080 Basically, that's what it's saying. Um, 2867 01:47:56,080 --> 01:48:01,199 House Bill um 535 is the debt that um 2868 01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:04,239 is um disposing of public property 2869 01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:06,960 modifications. So, we occasionally, 2870 01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:08,480 Brian, that's probably something that 2871 01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:09,920 you'll want to look into a little bit 2872 01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:11,840 more and make sure we're continue to be 2873 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:15,360 in compliance with that. Um the other 2874 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,520 the one thing that we need to look at is 2875 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,199 SB232, 2876 01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:22,639 regulatory impacts on family. every um 2877 01:48:22,639 --> 01:48:24,960 piece of uh legislative 2878 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,080 um materials we put out, we have to have 2879 01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,360 it show the impact to family health, 2880 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:35,040 stability, and formation. And um the 2881 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,080 league does have some language that they 2882 01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,040 suggest that every piece of legislation 2883 01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,159 that we put for has has a statement 2884 01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:46,239 attached to it. So, we might want to 2885 01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:48,639 look into that a little bit because we 2886 01:48:48,639 --> 01:48:50,480 need to put how that impacts families in 2887 01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:54,880 our area. Um, and then there's an online 2888 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,480 marketplace SB 108 that municipalities 2889 01:48:58,480 --> 01:49:00,480 can't regulate operation of an online 2890 01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,239 marketplace except for with certain 2891 01:49:02,239 --> 01:49:04,320 conditions. So, if we have anyone in in 2892 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,320 our city boundaries, there are others 2893 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:10,560 that may not um that may not impact us 2894 01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,880 directly, but we need to be aware of 2895 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,320 those. Um the other thing is the interim 2896 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:22,560 meetings start again on May 20th and our legislative pol policy committee 2897 01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,880 meetings um start up again on June 1st 2898 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,239 and uh I will be there. 2899 01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:30,639 >> So we uh and then there's a bunch that 2900 01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:32,639 will go into effect in the first part of 2901 01:49:32,639 --> 01:49:34,719 July, but those are the ones that really 2902 01:49:34,719 --> 01:49:38,239 affect us starting next week. 2903 01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:40,639 >> Carrie, on House Bill 33, we had some 2904 01:49:40,639 --> 01:49:42,400 discussion in our recorders meeting. 2905 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,119 >> Uhhuh. And I just wanted to make sure so 2906 01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:47,840 I checked um 2907 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,080 in certain areas of the city we do not 2908 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,199 have sidewalks and that provision is 2909 01:49:53,199 --> 01:49:55,840 primarily for park strips as between the 2910 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,719 road and the sidewalk. In those areas we 2911 01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:01,840 don't have a regulation to allow signs. 2912 01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:03,440 So 2913 01:50:03,440 --> 01:50:05,520 uh we don't have to follow that. 2914 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:12,400 >> So four seasons is host. Four seasons is open game, but otherwise it doesn't 2915 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:12,800 apply. 2916 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,560 >> Only part of four seasons because they 2917 01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,639 only have sidewalks on 2918 01:50:16,639 --> 01:50:18,400 >> only [clears throat] only those. Oh, 2919 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,080 poor houses. I think it would be I think 2920 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,880 then it might be into our best interest 2921 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,800 because um we want our citizens to be 2922 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,760 well informed when they vote and if we 2923 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,400 never have an opportunity for candidates 2924 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:39,040 to except for in that area of town to 2925 01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,880 say who they are because going 2926 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,679 doortodoor is really hard and as all of 2927 01:50:43,679 --> 01:50:46,960 you who who know have wanted to put uh 2928 01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,119 signs on Woodland Hills Drive and we've 2929 01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:51,360 asked asked a particular resident, can 2930 01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:54,320 we put it in your yard and yet it's 10 2931 01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,880 ft back from the road and no one sees it 2932 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,600 because by then we have snow andor 2933 01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,600 vegetation growing. We might want to 2934 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,960 consider kind of something in in the 2935 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:10,480 same idea, right, that we might 2936 01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:12,639 allow some things in the rightway for a 2937 01:51:12,639 --> 01:51:14,400 certain period of time prior to an 2938 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:14,719 election. 2939 01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:16,000 >> I have adjusted that 2940 01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,719 >> we did do that for elections. There is a 2941 01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:20,960 second piece of legislation we do need 2942 01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,080 to also apply to the political signs, 2943 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:24,800 >> right? 2944 01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,719 >> Um, and that was one of the conflicting 2945 01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:29,840 pieces in our last uh campaign cycle. 2946 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:30,960 >> That's why I'm bringing it up. 2947 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,040 >> Let's uh maybe we should look at that 2948 01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,560 because we will have um especially with 2949 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,800 Congress, we will have those people 2950 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,280 wanting to put some signs in our city. 2951 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,040 >> Wayne, can you put that on your notes? 2952 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:43,360 Thank you. 2953 01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:44,639 >> That was an interesting thing that 2954 01:51:44,639 --> 01:51:46,480 because we don't have a parking strip. 2955 01:51:46,480 --> 01:51:47,920 That was an interesting thing that came 2956 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:48,719 out of that. 2957 01:51:48,719 --> 01:51:50,159 >> Yeah. Was 2958 01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:53,199 >> Yeah. And I received a letter from the 2959 01:51:53,199 --> 01:51:56,400 House clerk and the Senate clerk today. 2960 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,719 Uh one saying that I guess they were 2961 01:51:58,719 --> 01:52:00,000 supposed to, I don't know, but they sent 2962 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,920 it basically saying one piece of 2963 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,280 legislation that did pass is an emphasis 2964 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:09,760 on religious freedom and restoring 2965 01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,639 uh religion in governmental function. Um 2966 01:52:12,639 --> 01:52:14,560 so still the separation of church and 2967 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,400 state delineated by our constitution but 2968 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:21,440 that we should be you know encouraging 2969 01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:23,280 those religious conversations and 2970 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,520 discussion. So because we pushed further 2971 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,760 away than we we should have. So kind of 2972 01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,440 a correctionary act of it. Then the 2973 01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:30,800 other one I haven't had a chance to read 2974 01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,639 on what legislation came from the Senate 2975 01:52:32,639 --> 01:52:33,760 that they 2976 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,080 >> Yep. So, if any of you has concerns 2977 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,800 about things or if you have seen things 2978 01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:41,599 that um that we might want to consider 2979 01:52:41,599 --> 01:52:45,040 either amending or something new, please 2980 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,280 let me know because as I said, they're 2981 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,679 going to start doing their bill filing 2982 01:52:49,679 --> 01:52:51,840 um next week. And if it's something 2983 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,599 that's really really important, then we 2984 01:52:53,599 --> 01:52:55,679 want to be at the front of that um 2985 01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:58,239 because it does get topheavy towards the 2986 01:52:58,239 --> 01:52:59,599 end. So, 2987 01:52:59,599 --> 01:53:02,960 >> well, thank you, Council Member Rhoden. 2988 01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,800 Uh nothing of major note on the IT side. 2989 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:07,840 You and I are working on something. 2990 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,719 >> We still need to connect on that. 2991 01:53:10,719 --> 01:53:12,880 >> But um 2992 01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,080 yeah, as soon as that's ready, then 2993 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,119 that's something we can 2994 01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:17,599 >> Perfect. Okay. And I actually did speak 2995 01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:18,880 with the Did you 2996 01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,840 >> one of them? And he's like, "Oh, cool." 2997 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:22,320 Okay. 2998 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:24,639 >> He's he's okay with it. 2999 01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:28,320 >> Wonderful. Okay. Um any upcoming items 3000 01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:29,760 that anybody would want to try and 3001 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,320 request to put on a future agenda? I had 3002 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,760 to have someone contact me um years ago 3003 01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,679 and I don't even remember what year it 3004 01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:41,360 was. Jody probably will remember um we 3005 01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,679 were working on the boundary line 3006 01:53:43,679 --> 01:53:46,639 between us and Elkridge and we've never 3007 01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:49,760 really got that um finalized and there 3008 01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,159 have some property owners over there who 3009 01:53:52,159 --> 01:53:55,199 are wondering if we're any closer to 3010 01:53:55,199 --> 01:53:56,639 actually establishing. 3011 01:53:56,639 --> 01:54:01,040 >> Is this over in Four Seasons? No exists. 3012 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,880 We're not changing the boundary line. It 3013 01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:04,480 will not be just up. You know, we had 3014 01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:07,599 talked at one time of having uh one side 3015 01:54:07,599 --> 01:54:10,239 of Loafer Canyon being in Alkridge and 3016 01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:12,320 another side and 3017 01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,320 >> or based on services provided because 3018 01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:15,199 some people 3019 01:54:15,199 --> 01:54:20,000 >> Woodland Hills. Yeah. This was um 3020 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,840 to get them to agree to this annexation 3021 01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,800 was a struggle in itself. I think that's 3022 01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,679 on hold for any changes. Okay. Okay. 3023 01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:31,119 >> Well, you just might want to get up to 3024 01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:33,119 date on that because there are a couple 3025 01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:37,440 of friends who who it affects 3026 01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,040 >> we've had a couple residents right there 3027 01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,520 who said absolutely no we are not going 3028 01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,080 into Woodland Hills and we have 3029 01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,440 >> um promised them that we would not 3030 01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:48,960 >> but the ones that are Woodland Hills 3031 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,840 that are accessed from they they access 3032 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,320 our services but they're on other side 3033 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,920 that there's just some tricky things 3034 01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,960 that went on with that with that over 3035 01:54:58,960 --> 01:54:59,520 there. So, 3036 01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,599 >> it was really close. Oh, boy. 3037 01:55:01,599 --> 01:55:03,779 >> Yeah, it was really, really close. 3038 01:55:03,779 --> 01:55:04,080 [laughter] 3039 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,520 >> I'll meet with you, Jody, and we can go 3040 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,119 over that and then I can also meet with 3041 01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:08,960 the Elkridge mayor and we can coordinate 3042 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,400 and figure out where that all sits 3043 01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:10,880 currently. 3044 01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:11,599 >> Yeah, 3045 01:55:11,599 --> 01:55:14,960 >> perfect. Thank you. Okay, then we will 3046 01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,599 uh take a break and let's see if I can 3047 01:55:17,599 --> 01:55:20,320 actually, you know, look at time 3048 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,719 correctly this time. Uh it's currently 3049 01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:26,159 7:58. Let's plan to come back and resume 3050 01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:28,560 and start our city council meeting at 3051 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:32,870 8:05. 3052 01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,920 Let's uh 3053 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,840 >> hopefully the trans 3054 01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:39,199 >> like to welcome everybody to city 3055 01:55:39,199 --> 01:55:42,000 council meeting today. Um we're going to 3056 01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,920 have an invocation from council member 3057 01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,840 Malovich and a pledge of allegiance from 3058 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,639 council member Lent. 3059 01:55:48,639 --> 01:55:50,560 Our 3060 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,719 dear heavenly father, we're so grateful 3061 01:55:52,719 --> 01:55:55,840 to be here as a city council tonight for 3062 01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,639 our council meeting. We're grateful for 3063 01:55:58,639 --> 01:56:00,560 the 3064 01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,880 moisture we have received this week. 3065 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,679 We're grateful for the community we live 3066 01:56:05,679 --> 01:56:08,719 in, for the protection thou grants unto 3067 01:56:08,719 --> 01:56:12,159 us, for the beauty of our of our trees 3068 01:56:12,159 --> 01:56:14,960 and our vegetation, as well as for our 3069 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,719 wildlife. 3070 01:56:16,719 --> 01:56:19,199 We ask that thou continues to bless us 3071 01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:23,440 with um protection and safety. 3072 01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,239 We ask thee to bless our citizens that 3073 01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:28,880 they will be mindful of the concerns 3074 01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:30,719 that were brought up earlier with 3075 01:56:30,719 --> 01:56:34,000 regards to the hot dry summer and the 3076 01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:42,159 need to be extra vigilant in our efforts to 3077 01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:44,880 be mindful of those conditions. Please 3078 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,880 bless us as we talk about city business 3079 01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:49,840 that our minds will be open that we will 3080 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:51,760 be able to discuss things in civil 3081 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:54,800 manner and and and make decisions that 3082 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,599 are best for for our city and for the 3083 01:56:57,599 --> 01:56:59,119 residents. 3084 01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:00,960 Um we're grateful for those who are 3085 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,320 willing to serve on um on the different 3086 01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:05,760 committees throughout the city and 3087 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,560 volunteer and help and support in any 3088 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,679 way possible. We're grateful for our 3089 01:57:11,679 --> 01:57:13,840 city staff and the work that they put in 3090 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:15,599 to 3091 01:57:15,599 --> 01:57:18,159 helping us as council understand the 3092 01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:24,560 issues of our city and for all that they do to um to give us accurate and 3093 01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:27,199 timely information and and support us 3094 01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:30,560 that we can make better decisions. 3095 01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,080 We're grateful for all of the blessings 3096 01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,679 that thou gives unto us. And we say 3097 01:57:35,679 --> 01:57:37,040 these things in the name of Jesus 3098 01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:37,920 Christ. Amen. 3099 01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:39,520 >> Amen. 3100 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,270 Please stand. 3101 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,040 » Repeat after me. I 3102 01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:47,760 >> I pledge algiance to the flag 3103 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:51,119 >> of the United States of America and to 3104 01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:54,320 the republic for which it stands. One 3105 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:58,080 nation under God, indivisible, with 3106 01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:04,709 liberty and justice for all. 3107 01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:07,360 » Thank you both. Uh we'd like to go now 3108 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,599 into a public comment. Um if we could 3109 01:58:09,599 --> 01:58:11,360 limit our comments to two minutes or 3110 01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,159 less. Um only in-person comments will be 3111 01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:16,719 included as part of the official record. 3112 01:58:16,719 --> 01:58:18,159 So it doesn't look like I have anybody 3113 01:58:18,159 --> 01:58:20,800 online. Dian, 3114 01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:21,199 >> please. 3115 01:58:21,199 --> 01:58:23,520 >> You missed me last time, huh? 3116 01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,080 >> Always. 3117 01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,199 >> Hi D. A second. I just want to speak on 3118 01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:31,199 behalf of our friends and neighbors on 3119 01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:34,000 the east side of our city, particularly 3120 01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:37,280 Maple Drive where it borders 3121 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,639 um our boundary, our city boundary. Um 3122 01:58:40,639 --> 01:58:43,440 the last time 3123 01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:45,760 we gave an authorization or permit or 3124 01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,760 whatever to move dirt and make dust, we 3125 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,880 had the same mitigation requirements. 3126 01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,599 However, 3127 01:58:55,599 --> 01:58:57,599 dust was 3128 01:58:57,599 --> 01:59:00,159 much more than it should have been. And 3129 01:59:00,159 --> 01:59:02,480 I didn't know until researching for 3130 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,840 tonight that the way these inspectors 3131 01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:09,599 decide on what level they're seeing, 3132 01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:12,000 it's a visual thing. They're trained and 3133 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:16,239 it's truly they look they they memorize 3134 01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:18,320 what it looks like without dust and then 3135 01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,639 they compare that in their mind to what 3136 01:59:20,639 --> 01:59:24,000 it looks like if there is dust. So it is 3137 01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,719 very um 3138 01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:27,840 >> subjective. 3139 01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:28,719 >> Yeah. 3140 01:59:28,719 --> 01:59:29,599 >> And we live in a 3141 01:59:29,599 --> 01:59:31,599 >> very subjective. 3142 01:59:31,599 --> 01:59:34,960 >> And then if you dive further into this 3143 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,920 issue of dust, obviously wind that 3144 01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,560 contractor is not liable for the wind. 3145 01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,560 But if there's so much accumulated that 3146 01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,719 it flies off 3147 01:59:44,719 --> 01:59:46,320 continuously, then it would be just like 3148 01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,719 if you're carrying dirt in your truck. 3149 01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:50,159 That's why on the freeway now it has to 3150 01:59:50,159 --> 01:59:53,840 be covered. Um, if dust is collecting on 3151 01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,080 your patio, the back of your house, your 3152 01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,480 deck or whatever, that means there and 3153 01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:00,560 there I have friends that told me they 3154 02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:02,639 would clean it every single day and 3155 02:00:02,639 --> 02:00:05,360 there was a layer every single day. That 3156 02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:08,320 would mean there is too much because the 3157 02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:11,280 rule is about how much is in the air, 3158 02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:14,800 not about it can then, you know, be so 3159 02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:16,320 much that accumulates. 3160 02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:18,639 I want to be able to tell my friends and 3161 02:00:18,639 --> 02:00:20,400 neighbors 3162 02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,080 that it's not going to be as bad. They 3163 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,080 were told there's water trucks, but they 3164 02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:25,920 would hardly ever see them. The other 3165 02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:29,520 part of this before you vote on giving 3166 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:34,560 the permit is um time of day because 3167 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,360 there was a restriction according to our 3168 02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,960 um ordinances, but they still did work 3169 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,199 early and I I know that was reported and 3170 02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:44,800 eventually 3171 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:46,960 um they changed their hours, but it went 3172 02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:49,760 a long time before the change happened. 3173 02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:51,360 And I just wanted to point out I believe 3174 02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,840 that there will be more vehicles or 3175 02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:55,679 equipment on this site than what was 3176 02:00:55,679 --> 02:00:57,599 mentioned. There'll be a crusher was 3177 02:00:57,599 --> 02:01:01,040 mentioned, a sifter, trucks, dozers to 3178 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,199 move and carry, but there will also be 3179 02:01:03,199 --> 02:01:04,880 conveyor. And I wonder if we want to 3180 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,199 know how big of one of those. I don't 3181 02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:09,840 know if like 3182 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,599 we already man his from bars sto you 3183 02:01:11,599 --> 02:01:15,760 know it's a big long long vehicle and it 3184 02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:17,599 has a conveyor belt and it actually 3185 02:01:17,599 --> 02:01:21,679 sifts the particles according to size 3186 02:01:21,679 --> 02:01:24,080 it can be big and it can it can be very 3187 02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:25,920 loud. 3188 02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,560 So just keep in mind all these things 3189 02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:32,880 and what could be helpful to our city. 3190 02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:36,000 >> Thanks. Thank you. 3191 02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:37,599 >> Bucky, 3192 02:01:37,599 --> 02:01:40,080 would you like to make a comment? 3193 02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:40,960 >> Uh, 3194 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:42,480 >> he's just so excited to fund our 3195 02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:44,320 roundabout design. [laughter] 3196 02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:46,239 >> Yeah, I was thinking that he's thinking, 3197 02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:49,679 how can I donate and and really help 3198 02:01:49,679 --> 02:01:53,199 with that that bronze elk? [laughter] 3199 02:01:53,199 --> 02:01:54,560 >> Good. 3200 02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:56,960 >> You're good. I'm getting hit by the look 3201 02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,054 that's going to hang over my head is 3202 02:01:59,054 --> 02:02:00,560 [laughter] 3203 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:01,280 the it 3204 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:03,440 >> it was just that whole when you were 3205 02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:05,040 waving your head up and down while she 3206 02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:06,480 was talking. We were just pretty sure 3207 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:07,199 you were listening. 3208 02:02:07,199 --> 02:02:08,960 >> I was just volunteering you. It's all 3209 02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:09,199 good. 3210 02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:12,000 >> Uh yeah, I mean I think I said my piece 3211 02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,440 about the the annexation. So I 3212 02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:20,719 >> Okay, perfect. Any public comment? 3213 02:02:20,719 --> 02:02:22,560 >> Well, we're glad to have you, brother. 3214 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:24,159 Okay, perfect. Then I will close the 3215 02:02:24,159 --> 02:02:26,800 public comment um and we will move on to 3216 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:28,960 the consent agenda. The approval of the 3217 02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,440 April 14th, 2026 city council meeting 3218 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:32,080 minutes. 3219 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,719 >> I do have a a correction. 3220 02:02:34,719 --> 02:02:36,639 I wasn't here, but I read through them. 3221 02:02:36,639 --> 02:02:40,400 I really I really liked them. Um at the 3222 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:42,560 very end, one of our guests today is 3223 02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:46,400 Matt Durant. He's here. He ran for Utah 3224 02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:49,199 House District 64 3225 02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:52,000 um race. And so he was here last time, 3226 02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,280 but you have the wrong designation of um 3227 02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:58,159 of office that he's seeking. So I 3228 02:02:58,159 --> 02:03:00,880 thought we should change that. 3229 02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:02,159 They had you down as running for 3230 02:03:02,159 --> 02:03:03,840 Congress. 3231 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:06,159 >> So we want to make sure it's Utah House 3232 02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:08,960 District 64. 3233 02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,639 But um I did ask our um probably between 3234 02:03:12,639 --> 02:03:16,639 now and um and primary both of the 3235 02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:18,000 congressional candidates would like to 3236 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:19,440 come to Woodland Hills. 3237 02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:20,080 >> Wonderful. 3238 02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:21,760 >> So I don't know Bucky if you're 3239 02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:24,239 interested in hosting them at your 3240 02:03:24,239 --> 02:03:25,760 facility then I will call you. 3241 02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,639 >> We'll do that instead of a instead of 3242 02:03:28,639 --> 02:03:30,800 >> maybe a little 3243 02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:32,000 late. 3244 02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,639 >> How about the consent agenda? [laughter] 3245 02:03:34,639 --> 02:03:36,239 and and I can't approve the consent 3246 02:03:36,239 --> 02:03:37,679 agenda because I was not here, but I 3247 02:03:37,679 --> 02:03:38,639 just wanted to make that. 3248 02:03:38,639 --> 02:03:39,199 >> Thank you. 3249 02:03:39,199 --> 02:03:42,400 >> Wonderful. With that uh alteration, 3250 02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,080 >> I'll make a motion that we approve the 3251 02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:47,119 consent agenda. And I'd like to comment 3252 02:03:47,119 --> 02:03:49,920 that Jody I know this has already been 3253 02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,000 commented on, but she makes us all sound 3254 02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:54,960 so intelligent. Thank you. 3255 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:56,960 >> Somebody over and over. 3256 02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:58,639 Yes, 3257 02:03:58,639 --> 02:04:00,880 >> I'm not sure I could pronounce some of 3258 02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,440 the words that I supposedly said in that 3259 02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,520 meeting, but I'll second it. 3260 02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:07,679 >> Okay. Do I have a motion to council 3261 02:04:07,679 --> 02:04:10,400 member Lunt? A second by Council Member 3262 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:14,560 Hutchkins. Um, Council Member Malovich, 3263 02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:15,360 >> yes. 3264 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:16,400 >> Council member Johns, 3265 02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:17,040 >> yes. 3266 02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:18,639 >> Council member Hutchings, 3267 02:04:18,639 --> 02:04:19,920 >> yes. 3268 02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:21,040 >> Council member Rhoden, 3269 02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:21,440 >> yes. 3270 02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:22,719 >> Council member Lent, 3271 02:04:22,719 --> 02:04:25,360 >> yes. Okay, 3272 02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:29,840 that the consent agenda passes. Um, 3273 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:32,639 okay. We are going to move on to the 3274 02:04:32,639 --> 02:04:36,159 acceptance of a petition for annexation 3275 02:04:36,159 --> 02:04:38,480 and submission of a zone change 3276 02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:41,520 application. Um, 3277 02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,040 request being sent to the planning 3278 02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:44,800 commission. 3279 02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:46,080 >> The zone changes the 3280 02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:47,280 >> just to send it to the planning 3281 02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,199 commission, not us approve it. 3282 02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:51,119 >> We are approving the annexation. 3283 02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:53,440 Correct. you're approving the petition 3284 02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:55,520 for the annexation. 3285 02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:58,560 Then it goes into we've got to verify 3286 02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,960 the petition. Then we have to put out a 3287 02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:04,000 notice. Then we've got a 30-day period 3288 02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:05,920 and then there will be public hearings. 3289 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:06,239 All right. 3290 02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:08,719 >> So, it's a process. Bucky has let the 3291 02:05:08,719 --> 02:05:11,360 county know already. So, he's done his 3292 02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:14,480 part. Um, and now it's um it's our part. 3293 02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:17,679 And if anybody wants to see the petition 3294 02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:20,159 checklist that we have to go through, 3295 02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:22,000 you're welcome to come in and look at 3296 02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:23,040 it. So, 3297 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,560 >> okay. But this 3298 02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:27,280 >> I I've sent it to Bucky and I've also 3299 02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:28,960 sent it to Alage. 3300 02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,280 >> We'll take some time. I have a motion. 3301 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,199 >> Council member for a motion. 3302 02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:33,840 >> I'll second. 3303 02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:36,000 >> Council member Jones for a second. 3304 02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,840 >> Um, Council Member Lund. 3305 02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:38,480 >> Yes. 3306 02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:39,520 >> Council member Rhoden. 3307 02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:39,920 >> Yes. 3308 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,360 >> Council member Hutchkins. 3309 02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:42,400 >> Yes. 3310 02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,080 >> Council member Jones. Yes. 3311 02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:45,360 >> Council member Malovich. 3312 02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:46,400 >> Yes. 3313 02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:50,960 >> Okay. That uh petition passes. 3314 02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,119 Um acceptance of a conditional use 3315 02:05:53,119 --> 02:05:57,599 permit um with approval contingencies. 3316 02:05:57,599 --> 02:06:00,000 What are those approval contingencies? 3317 02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:02,000 That the fee in lie of and the 3318 02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,239 finalization of the or the completion of 3319 02:06:04,239 --> 02:06:05,599 the application. 3320 02:06:05,599 --> 02:06:08,639 >> Yeah. Completion and signing it. 3321 02:06:08,639 --> 02:06:10,480 >> Okay. Do I have a motion? I'll 3322 02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:12,320 >> motion. Council member Rhden with a 3323 02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:17,750 motion. Do I have a second? 3324 02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:20,719 » Council member Hutchkins with a second. 3325 02:06:20,719 --> 02:06:22,960 Um, Council Member Malovich, 3326 02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:24,400 >> a yes. [snorts] 3327 02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:26,400 >> Is that a yes or a no? 3328 02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,000 >> Council member Jones. 3329 02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:29,199 >> Uh, yes. 3330 02:06:29,199 --> 02:06:31,040 >> Council member Hutchings, 3331 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:32,079 >> yes. 3332 02:06:32,079 --> 02:06:33,119 >> Council member Rhden, 3333 02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:33,679 >> yes. 3334 02:06:33,679 --> 02:06:35,040 >> Council member Lund, 3335 02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:36,800 >> yes. 3336 02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,840 >> That motion passes. Uh, for me that is 3337 02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:41,520 the moving of the mountain. That's what 3338 02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:42,880 I like to see. 3339 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:43,599 >> Yes. 3340 02:06:43,599 --> 02:06:46,602 >> While they're listed together on here, 3341 02:06:46,602 --> 02:06:47,760 [clears throat and cough] 3342 02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:49,280 >> you might treat them as a separate 3343 02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:53,280 motion to refer the reszone 3344 02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:57,189 >> to the planning commission. 3345 02:06:57,199 --> 02:06:59,840 » I think we broke it out clear. 3346 02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:00,320 >> Okay. 3347 02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,159 >> So, acceptance of the petition. Did you 3348 02:07:02,159 --> 02:07:03,520 guys feel that was what we were voting 3349 02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:05,360 on? Yeah, cuz it says and 3350 02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:06,800 >> then yeah, it's headed to the planning 3351 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:09,520 commission for the zoning piece. 3352 02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,000 >> Okay. The adoption of resolution 3353 02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,400 2026-37. 3354 02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,880 This is authorizing the issuance and and 3355 02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:20,800 sale of not more than 1.4 million sales 3356 02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,920 and franchise tax revenue bond for the 3357 02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:25,679 roads. 3358 02:07:25,679 --> 02:07:26,560 >> I'll motion. 3359 02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:29,199 >> Council member Malovich with a motion. 3360 02:07:29,199 --> 02:07:30,079 >> I'll second it. 3361 02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:32,560 >> Council member Blunt with a second. Uh, 3362 02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,199 Council Member John's. Uh, yes. Council 3363 02:07:35,199 --> 02:07:36,000 member Rhoden, 3364 02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,320 >> yes. Council member Hutchings, 3365 02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:39,119 >> yes. 3366 02:07:39,119 --> 02:07:40,400 >> Council member Lund, 3367 02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:40,880 >> yes. 3368 02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:42,159 >> Council member Malovich, 3369 02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:43,199 >> yes. 3370 02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:44,719 >> Okay, that resolution [clears throat] 3371 02:07:44,719 --> 02:07:48,079 passes. Um, approval of the March 2026 3372 02:07:48,079 --> 02:07:50,400 financials and clerk or check 3373 02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:52,320 dispersements. Not clerk dispersements, 3374 02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,400 just check dispersements. 3375 02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:56,960 >> Yeah, don't don't disperse clerk. 3376 02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:58,079 >> Do I have a motion? 3377 02:07:58,079 --> 02:07:59,040 >> I have a motion. 3378 02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:00,880 >> Council member Ron for the motion. Do I 3379 02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:02,239 have a second? I'll second. 3380 02:08:02,239 --> 02:08:05,520 >> Council member Jones with a second. Um, 3381 02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,520 Council Member Lunt, 3382 02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:08,159 >> yes. 3383 02:08:08,159 --> 02:08:09,440 >> Council member Johns, 3384 02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:10,000 >> yes. 3385 02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:11,360 >> Council member Malovich, 3386 02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:11,840 >> yes. 3387 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:13,520 >> Council member Hutchkins, 3388 02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:14,239 >> yes. 3389 02:08:14,239 --> 02:08:15,280 >> Council member Rhoden, 3390 02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:16,239 >> yes. 3391 02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:20,719 >> Okay, that uh passes. 3392 02:08:20,719 --> 02:08:23,760 Okay. Um, as I stated earlier, there is 3393 02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:25,920 a personnel matter that I would like to 3394 02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,719 discuss with each of you um in a closed 3395 02:08:28,719 --> 02:08:30,719 session. 3396 02:08:30,719 --> 02:08:32,560 If I can get a motion, 3397 02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:34,480 >> I'll make a M motion that we go to close 3398 02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:36,480 session to discuss personnel map. 3399 02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:37,040 >> Okay. 3400 02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:37,679 >> Second. 3401 02:08:37,679 --> 02:08:39,280 >> Council member Lunt with a motion. 3402 02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:41,520 Council member Malovich with a second. 3403 02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:43,040 Uh, Council Member Rhoden. 3404 02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:43,520 >> Yes. 3405 02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:45,280 >> Council member Hutchkins. 3406 02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:46,239 >> Yes. 3407 02:08:46,239 --> 02:08:47,360 >> Council member Johns. 3408 02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:47,920 >> Yes. 3409 02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,199 >> Council member Lunt. 3410 02:08:49,199 --> 02:08:49,599 >> Yes. 3411 02:08:49,599 --> 02:08:51,040 >> Council member Malovich. 3412 02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:51,679 >> Yes. 3413 02:08:51,679 --> 02:08:53,679 >> Trying to keep you guys on your toes. 3414 02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:56,294 >> Yeah. I know you're like, 3415 02:08:56,294 --> 02:08:57,440 [laughter] 3416 02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:59,920 >> "Okay, then we are headed into close 3417 02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:01,040 session." 3418 02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:02,159 >> Thank you everybody. 3419 02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:06,390 >> That I will tell you that. 3420 02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:10,880 » Okay. Uh we are back from close session. 3421 02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:14,000 Um I will accept a motion to adjourn. 3422 02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:15,119 >> So moved. 3423 02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:16,880 >> Okay, we are adjourned. Thank you 3424 02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:19,360 everybody. 3425 02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:21,280 >> You know the hard part about that is um 3426 02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:24,639 one of the girls that I Thank 3427 02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:27,599 you.