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» You okay? Brian, can you hear us?

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>> Thanks. Byebye.

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> Perfect. You should have received an

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>> Wonderful. Okay, I'd like to welcome

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everybody to uh the city council work

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session on May 12th, 2026.

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pretty important meeting, but hopefully

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effective. We're going to start with the

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general plan review. Um, we're going to

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well as the executive summary of the

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Woodland Hills general plan. So, let me

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>> Wow. Look at us go. We usually give it

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and I received uh all of Steve's

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comments and notes. Um I have not yet

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>> Perfect. Okay, let's just jump through

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>> I mean really there wasn't much.

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contribute and to contribute to the

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local economy that surrounds the city.

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city that is duplicative um you know

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economy that means it's local it

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surrounds the city that is that is you

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code and amends its code as needed. I

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simple sentence. It doesn't read very

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business. Is this something we're going

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completely. the city can promote local

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entrepreneurship the city can promote

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development." Really?

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sponsored event and left an official

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city sponsored event. You don't have to

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the nail states. So Maple Fest

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>> All right. Uh under public opinion. U

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>> public opinion.

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>> Yeah. The the next big section um

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instead of residents, can we just say

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respondents? because it still leans

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toward in my mind still leans towards

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all the residents when it's just it's

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the the poll upon respondents.

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>> Does anybody have any issue there?

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>> No.

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>> Um next potential I would delete new

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growth.

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So it just to bring commercial

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development into the area.

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I think though we were looking at the

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new growth area because the rest of it

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is just zoned residential. We don't have

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any space.

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>> It's it's

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not I mean it's it's already it's

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already there. It's not it's not area

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that we have got new plans for. That's

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just my opinion. We can keep it in

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there. That's just my

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>> keeping new growth in because it's along

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the

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>> near 11 to 100.

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>> Yeah. But it's still those are the

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people in people's mind. It's

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>> in my mind it's it's Woodland Hills.

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It's not

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>> we're bringing something new into

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Woodland Hills. It is the Woodland Hills

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still part of it.

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>> Yeah. But it's still considered new

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growth. It's not the people who've been

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here for 50 years.

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>> That would be a

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>> Yeah.

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>> Ted says that's a common way to do it is

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new growth.

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>> I'm fine. I'm fine. Again, I'm just I'm

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telling you my thoughts on it. Oh,

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you're good.

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>> Uh, next one is

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going down. Unless you got anything you

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got, you got yours to fill in there. You

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got some changes.

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>> We do your changes along the same as his

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changes.

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>> Yeah, we can go with that,

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>> right? But there was that one that had

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developers developments.

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>> I'm going to just make the red changes

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unless you guys disagree with them and

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we discuss them. Okay.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Okay.

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>> But I wanted to make sure you guys saw

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the community development groups.

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>> Yes.

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>> And then the planning commission's

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edits. That's what the red is saying.

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So, if you're okay, we'll we'll adopt

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the planning commission's edits unless

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you guys want the original text.

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>> I don't think I had any issue with those

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planning commission edits.

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>> Yeah. Because they're very they're very

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minor. Anything

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here, Brian?

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>> Uh, yes. The

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first full paragraph, it says Woodland

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Hill received relatively small amount of

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tax revenue. It should read of sales tax

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revenue

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because that's what we're talking about

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specifically.

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>> I'd agree. Okay.

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>> Nothing else on that page.

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I'll edit that later.

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Anything here? Anybody?

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>> All the changes to the other parts.

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>> Number two is like wiped out.

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>> What?

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>> Yep. So, this will turn into two here

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and we'll delete it.

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>> Anything here?

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rentals and the parade entry. Okay.

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>> Yeah, it does show that our revenue

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streams are very small. If it's the $10

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booth rental,

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>> it's big and buddy,

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>> mayor.

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>> Yes.

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>> Before you go on to aid

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um, there was an an insert that I

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apparently didn't provide to you.

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>> Okay. I didn't want to interrupt Brian

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there. Um, it's on page

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75

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with a picture of the Maple Fest. It's

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under supporting local festivals and

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events as economic and social drivers.

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The insert would be between the first

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and the second paragraph.

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>> Okay?

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>> And it would read this way.

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The city is a home for a growing number

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of artists and sculptors, some of which

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have galleries outside the city. Once or

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twice a year, those who wish to

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participate host open houses to showcase

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their talents and artistic products.

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This brings both local and non-local

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individuals into the city and further

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puts Woodland Hill City on the map.

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That was discussed by planning

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commission and suggested that be

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included

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» as another type of event

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to the city.

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>> Okay, that's my technical way of saying

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that.

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>> The only thing that I was thinking

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because Woodland Hills day and the Maple

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Fest also bring thing people in from

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outside of our city. So, do we need to

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say that with this as well? I mean, do

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we need to put that part in or just that

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this is a another event that is hosted

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in our city, but we're not we don't

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sponsor that, but it does people in our

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city go to it.

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>> I think it's part of Woodland Hills

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Days, isn't it?

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>> No, they do it different times.

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>> The art festival,

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>> it's separate, but they do it with

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Woodland Hills Days often times.

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Sometimes they ch they change it around

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because it's their private thing, but um

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>> well lately they've been doing it with

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the last few years, but it's not

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necessarily a part of it. We just

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>> we just help promote it and advertise

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for them.

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>> But what I'm saying is I don't think we

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need the language that says people in

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and out of the city. I think we just say

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like we did the other two. Just this is

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a cultural event in the city.

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I I don't know. I think that we're

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talking about bringing visitors in for

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the other one. Why wouldn't we

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say this is, you know, and this is not a

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city sponsored one,

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>> right? But what I'm saying is that we

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don't specifically say we're bringing in

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other people on the other two.

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So if we if we are putting it in we just

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say all of them people come in

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>> right but I'm just saying we don't need

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to again specifically say for this event

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that we bring people in because it's

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already

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there.

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We don't have to say it twice.

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» Once I get it all in,

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I can take a look at it.

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>> And then you'd have to change that with

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both events. You'd have to say all

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events.

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» Could you just say events

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>> or events? Yeah.

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>> Oh, help me here. on the right that

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sentence right above envisioning

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potential commercial commercial growth

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>> uh

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>> cross out both then we can capitalize

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events

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>> and they play whatever thing

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>> yeah there you go events serve as

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>> because there's you know then there

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could be more events or less events

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>> because who's saying that your

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Santa is not an event or

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maybe some of these fire expo

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>> well and the fire expo and the trick

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trunk or treat.

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>> Yeah.

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>> All the things.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Okay. Wayne, I'll get the rest of that

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from you.

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» Okay,

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we're still good here.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Okay, let's jump to chapter eight.

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>> Chapter eight,

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>> water preservation and natural

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environment.

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» Fine. We don't have anything on this

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first part, do you?

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>> No. No, I don't. I don't for quite a

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while. Um, I think the edits were good

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and and they did a good job with it for

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the most part.

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>> Does anybody have any thoughts?

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>> Chapter 8.

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>> The spot where it says, "Did you know go

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up again?" Mayor,

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>> so I'm reading this and maybe I'm

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reading it wrong. Um, but this talks

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about the Pacin Ranger Station. Um and while it is above Woodland Hills, it

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isn't just Woodland Hills. This reads

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down there in the bold, Woodland Hills

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residents tend to use more water in

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drought years and less water in rainy

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years. Um maybe it could say local

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residents or

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area residents because this is like

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calling out Woodland Hills residents

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and I don't think that's fair.

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Woodland Hills general plan.

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>> I I I get that, but I don't what it's

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saying is the graph is telling us that

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Woodland Hills people use more water in

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the drought years.

509
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>> I think you don't really need to say

510
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>> you need to state it. That's

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>> Woodland Hills.

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>> I would say that's true for every other

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state.

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>> I think it's true everywhere. But but

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the the data that they're pulling from

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doesn't justify Woodland Hills.

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I would just take

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>> the whole sentence.

519
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>> Remove Woodland Hills and just leave it

520
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as residents tend to use more water.

521
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>> That's more.

522
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>> Yeah. What if we just delete it, Brian?

523
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>> I'm fine with that. But actually, I

524
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think it's a good point to be honest

525
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with you that people actually use more

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water in drought years,

527
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>> which makes sense.

528
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>> So, put it in. Well, you don't even put

529
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residents. You Yeah, you could just put

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people because if you're you were saying

531
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it it applies to everyone, not just our

532
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city.

533
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>> Residents tend to use more water in

534
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drought years and less water in rainy

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years, which

536
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>> leaving residents just because then it

537
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makes it

538
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>> Yeah.

539
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>> Does it need to be

540
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>> take this personal this plan?

541
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>> I'm just wondering why why why are we having it in bold?

542
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>> Yeah, let's

543
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>> like why are we calling it out as like

544
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an anomaly? It's a pretty big

545
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conservation concept, but

546
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>> it is a big one.

547
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>> No, I I guess I get it. But what we're

548
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saying is that we're not giving

549
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commentary. We're telling you what the

550
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data says, right? And the data is when

551
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it's not raining, people have to use

552
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more water to keep their lawns green.

553
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When it does rain, they don't have to

554
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use as much water to keep their lawns

555
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green. Apply that to every city in

556
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America.

557
00:24:33,919 --> 00:24:34,720
>> And it's true.

558
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,679
>> It's true.

559
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:37,200
>> So, I just that's why I say I don't

560
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,120
understand why we're trying to say look

561
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:40,880
Because most people won't read this, but

562
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,480
they might look at the graph and then

563
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,320
see the bold and say, "Oh, yeah. I'm

564
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,039
using too much."

565
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:46,559
>> What if I do that? I don't if you can

566
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:47,520
see.

567
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760
>> I don't know. I guess I I get I just

568
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,240
>> That's not always true.

569
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,760
>> When you get into drought years, there

570
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,039
are some communities that go into

571
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:56,400
conservation mode.

572
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,600
>> Oh, yeah. Some of our

573
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,360
>> Because of the lack of water, so they'll

574
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,200
actually use less water.

575
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,039
>> Uh where in rainy years, sometimes they

576
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:04,559
don't turn off their sprinklers

577
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,080
>> or they forget. So, they'll use a little

578
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,400
more water. So,

579
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,760
I think what they're trying to say here

580
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480
is that conservation is important.

581
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:12,880
>> Yes.

582
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,640
>> And we got to keep that in mind as we're

583
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,080
looking at drought years. When you have

584
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,600
dry years, you should be using more

585
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,720
water is the point.

586
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,039
>> Sure.

587
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:20,480
>> You should actually be cutting back.

588
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,120
>> Sure.

589
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,440
>> And so I think it's a it's it's a valid

590
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,440
point. Whether it's cold or not is

591
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:25,840
>> can we

592
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,799
>> is up to you. But

593
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,000
>> can you just use conservation, you know,

594
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,320
>> you're encouraging conservation, right?

595
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,679
I think they're just using the data from

596
00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:35,360
the Snowtel to say the site, the

597
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,240
Snowtale site's telling us that this is

598
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,279
what happens.

599
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:40,480
>> I think there's a little bit of the

600
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,799
shock. People will read it and say,

601
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:44,559
>> "Well, that makes sense." But there's

602
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,559
also some

603
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:48,559
>> Yeah. some shock value to it.

604
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:49,120
>> Yeah,

605
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,720
>> I'm sure.

606
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,400
>> Well, yeah, because you're right. Other

607
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,080
cities have already put their

608
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,400
conservation in in you're there's no

609
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,919
watering outside at all.

610
00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,440
>> Since it's bolded, you're now thinking

611
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,870
about it more.

612
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,080
We all move.

613
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,679
>> Okay. Any anything else up here?

614
00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:08,960
>> Not on that one.

615
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,470
>> Okay.

616
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,640
Anything here?

617
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,279
>> I I do have a couple here, of course.

618
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,640
>> Okay. Uh on the right, the the the page

619
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,000
on on the right, 85, it says weather

620
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,080
models anticipate decreased annual

621
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,760
precipitation.

622
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,880
That's not that's not true. It's not

623
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,640
fact. Matter of fact, um precipitation

624
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,279
in northern Utah for most models are

625
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,679
actually showing in the future that

626
00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:41,200
we'll have higher precipitation. We'll

627
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080
have lower snow and more rain, but

628
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,480
northern Utah should see higher based on

629
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,400
the modeling. So that is not fact.

630
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,799
>> Well,

631
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,400
>> I don't know about that. We just had a

632
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,400
discussion

633
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200
>> in a big water meeting today

634
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,960
and the form of the way precipitation

635
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,880
will be coming is is they're saying it's

636
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,480
changing more grain but doesn't

637
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,480
necessarily mean we're may not get less

638
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,669
um

639
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:13,200
and to me I think they're they're

640
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,960
quoting weather models there.

641
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,919
>> Yeah. So, I would say

642
00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:18,159
>> there's tons of them

643
00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:20,159
>> because let's check and see what their

644
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:23,520
source is for that before we change it.

645
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,039
>> Yeah, because I've got weather models

646
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,840
that are showing northern Utah will see

647
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,159
a slight increase in total precipitation

648
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:32,559
and southern a slight decrease.

649
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:34,640
>> You talking just this year?

650
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,120
>> No, this is future. This is this is 10

651
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,000
year future. Uh, Brian, I think that I

652
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,799
mean that data center up north is going

653
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:44,159
to change that because it's going to

654
00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:45,520
generate a bunch of heat.

655
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,600
>> Yeah, I think I think let's let's

656
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,000
confirm

657
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840
>> it's going to change that

658
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,200
>> because I think that it's a valid point.

659
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,279
>> I I I can understand that, but I don't

660
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,080
want to say that this is a fact when

661
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,799
there are conflicting.

662
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:04,399
>> Let's find out. They got their data

663
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:06,640
first and then then that'll help us.

664
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Somebody online has their hand raised,

665
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,480
but you can't see it. So,

666
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,120
>> I don't

667
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,279
>> I'm not taking comments right now.

668
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:18,080
>> Okay.

669
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,480
>> Um, so on the next paragraph, the

670
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,559
decreased usage.

671
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:29,200
Um, back up there. So, it says

672
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,080
reductions in lot and household size

673
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,200
including multif family de development.

674
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,039
um as one of those points. I don't know

675
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:38,720
that that's really on the table. Is that

676
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
on the table for the rest of the the

677
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,799
council multif family developments and and smaller lot sizes than we have?

678
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,960
I don't I don't feel that's the case. I

679
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960
think that should not be there.

680
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,799
>> I don't think that will decrease usage

681
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,840
either. the more homes you sl

682
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,559
>> it does because you're you get multif

683
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:04,320
family homes and and the you know the the

684
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240
Ted you know the the numbers if you if

685
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,080
you have multif family homes like the

686
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,279
outside the the landscaping

687
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,200
is the same as one as a single family

688
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200
home and you've got more populace in it.

689
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,320
So it actually does reduce and smaller

690
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,080
lot sizes produce more. So,

691
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,520
>> I don't think that applies to Wooden

692
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,720
Hills, though, because I don't think

693
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,320
>> I don't either. I think it should be

694
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,520
deleted.

695
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,559
>> Our larger lots actually end up using

696
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,720
less water because we're not watering

697
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,200
them.

698
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080
>> We're not Well, we are not um you know,

699
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,039
at the top half is are not uh

700
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,840
landscaping and and planting grass on

701
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,559
their whole one or two acres. Now, down

702
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,159
below

703
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:46,799
where

704
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,799
>> it has one or two acres down below,

705
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,760
>> but down below right now, that's zoned

706
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240
ar um agricultural right now, but it

707
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,640
could change to something else depending

708
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,159
on what somebody does. And if it is,

709
00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:02,240
because it's flat with no trees, people

710
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,279
would tend to put in grass. So, if we

711
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,679
did ever make those, if the landowner

712
00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:10,880
petitioned to have smaller lot sizes, um

713
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880
we wouldn't want you we wouldn't we

714
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,399
couldn't say you can't plant grass

715
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:15,679
because we wouldn't want weeds there

716
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:19,120
either. So, it's a potential I I think

717
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,600
that there is a potential for us someday

718
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,320
to have smaller lot sizes or andor

719
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,279
depending on zoning of the state if they

720
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:30,640
ever require that. I just I mean I don't

721
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,320
think that we'll do multifamily

722
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,039
development, but I don't know. We might

723
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,520
have a twin home or something. I don't

724
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,799
know. Or or if they do a community.

725
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:42,480
>> I I don't know about the rest of the the

726
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,039
council, but I wouldn't vote for it. Um

727
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:46,480
period.

728
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120
>> So, in my mind, neither one of those are

729
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,640
on the table.

730
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,880
>> Yeah. I I I would think about it a

731
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,840
little bit because sometimes we I was in

732
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,000
a three-hour water South Utah County

733
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,080
water planning meeting today and uh

734
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,679
something that continually came up is

735
00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:05,600
policy changes that sometimes we don't

736
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,720
have effect on or we don't have control

737
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,120
of,

738
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,039
>> right?

739
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,559
>> That was a big discussion. Hey, now

740
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,320
people start adding second houses

741
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,080
basically to their lots that's got to be

742
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,840
serviced with water. that basically

743
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640
changes the whole game for water usage,

744
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,720
right? So, what what I think we got to

745
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,399
be careful of is remember this is a

746
00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:26,720
general plan that thinks about the

747
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,399
future

748
00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:30,799
and I think we want to make sure that

749
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,320
what we have in here is

750
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640
certainly guiding our direction but not

751
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,159
closing the doors on things that could

752
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,399
happen that we may not have control on

753
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,679
because we want to keep those in mind

754
00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:45,039
and keep thinking about them. Now, um

755
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,960
reductions in lot household size, you

756
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,720
know, that's probably going to we'll have some control over that. Um

757
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,919
what lot sizes we allow and multif

758
00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:56,880
family development for now that stuff,

759
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640
you know, that that we we have control

760
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,000
over, but you don't know what could

761
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,279
change. And and I think as as we go

762
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:04,640
about the future, we just want to think

763
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,320
about that. Keep that in mind that

764
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,000
sometimes we don't always have control

765
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,640
over what we're asked to do. And we want

766
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,840
to make sure we're planning for that

767
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440
because like I said, that's what came up

768
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,039
today in our meeting was

769
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,039
>> now we're dealing with ADUs and that

770
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:18,799
basically adds a whole another water use

771
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,039
to our lots. And so what plans we've

772
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,120
made historically just go out the window

773
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,640
now and now we got to start over

774
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,480
>> because even if you have one acre, you

775
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,039
have your house, you have an ADU that's

776
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,360
1,000 square feet or whatever, that's

777
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,320
almost like having two homes on half

778
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,000
acre each. And so it's it's not although

779
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,559
it's technically still one acre lot,

780
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,200
it's two halfacre lots.

781
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,799
>> I guess to Brian's point, and I agree

782
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,360
with him and make sure I say this right,

783
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,640
Brian, this is saying a decrease usage.

784
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,200
So a strategy in decreasing the water

785
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,159
usage. This is saying by us reducing lot

786
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:02,080
size and household size,

787
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,399
you know, including multifamily

788
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:06,720
development and you're saying actually

789
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,919
by adding by decreasing lot size, let's

790
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:11,840
say by adding an ADU because we're

791
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,960
saying now putting

792
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,559
>> decreasing that's keeping the same lot

793
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,399
size by by

794
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:18,559
splitting it quote unquote. We're not

795
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,399
going to actually subdivide it, right?

796
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,159
There's still going to be the same plot.

797
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:25,440
I'm just saying this doesn't say what I

798
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,720
feel you just said.

799
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,720
>> Well, so studies show that reducing your

800
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,240
lot sizes and household sizes do

801
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,279
decrease water usage

802
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:32,399
>> because you're only going to have maybe

803
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:34,240
two bedrooms or three bedrooms and not

804
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,080
10.

805
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,440
>> That statement is is has has backing to

806
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,200
it. I mean, it's not additional fill. It

807
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,120
has backing hills.

808
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,960
>> Um I don't know. Maybe maybe not.

809
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,519
>> We're dropping it on

810
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,360
>> again. is the general plan

811
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,799
>> natural brush. So all we actually did

812
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,440
was increase the water usage because now

813
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,880
we have a house there that's going to be

814
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600
using water. Before that land didn't use

815
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,960
water,

816
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720
>> right? Cuz we now if we put it on a lawn

817
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,800
where a lawn used to be, yes, we are

818
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,399
going to decrease farm

819
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:12,240
>> or a farm which is what we've got all

820
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:12,720
that

821
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,480
>> 11200 is all farmland.

822
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,000
>> Smaller lots and household smaller

823
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,760
households will decrease usage because

824
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,919
of watering egg land. So

825
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,200
>> yeah. Okay.

826
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,320
>> Whether you put it in there or not, it's

827
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,520
up to you guys. I'm not I'm just trying

828
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:23,839
to

829
00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:25,040
>> I think we should keep it.

830
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,159
>> The home keeps a huge

831
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,079
>> be careful about considering everything

832
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:29,280
today that we're doing when you're

833
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,240
looking at a general plan

834
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,240
>> because also this also helps us in

835
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:34,800
another way. Although we might never do

836
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,240
it um because it's in the plan and if

837
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:41,119
somebody meaning the legislature says,

838
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,720
"Well, you guys don't even allow this."

839
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:44,399
We can say, "Well, our general plan says

840
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:47,520
that if in the future this is comes, we

841
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,639
we're ready." But it's not now. We We

842
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,399
all know it's probably never gonna

843
00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:54,960
happen, but at least we can show that we

844
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,639
thought about it.

845
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:57,119
>> Yeah.

846
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:57,599
>> Right.

847
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,160
>> Yeah. But someone could come to us and

848
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,920
say, "You guys said you were going to

849
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
consider lopsid reductions to reduce

850
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,160
water usage." And so I've been forced to

851
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,920
vote certain ways because of what's in

852
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,599
the general plan. And I think this is

853
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,400
wrong. I'm not going to I do not want to

854
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,960
use lot size or multif family

855
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,760
development to to adjust or to decrease

856
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,720
water usage. I I don't want

857
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,000
>> I don't think that I don't know how to

858
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,560
say this.

859
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,280
>> They don't have a choice.

860
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,359
>> I don't disagree. But if if it's not in

861
00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:35,040
there and the state regulates that we

862
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,800
have to do it, that doesn't say that

863
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,800
we're not going to do it because it's

864
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,880
not in our general plan.

865
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,880
But Ryan, we also can't function out of

866
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,359
fear of afraid of what somebody might

867
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:47,359
say or what might somebody might object

868
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:50,560
to. We have to do we have to do what's

869
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,680
best.

870
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160
>> Well, and I think that having it in

871
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,839
there shows that we have good faith that

872
00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:57,599
we're thinking of the future whether or

873
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,839
not we do it or not. It doesn't mean

874
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:03,359
that we have to zone right now. Any

875
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:05,680
homeowner can come to us and request a

876
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,960
change in zoning.

877
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,400
>> Keep in mind this is this is something

878
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,079
we're not saying we're doing. Yeah,

879
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:10,960
we're not. It's just

880
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,040
>> ideas on they're giving us ideas on how

881
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,720
we can decrease water usage,

882
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:15,359
>> right?

883
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:17,599
>> So, as we start looking at all the ways

884
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,119
in

885
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,200
>> how we decrease our water usage, this

886
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520
may be something they'll be looking at that time.

887
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960
>> Is this not a plan?

888
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,119
>> It doesn't commit us to anything. It's

889
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,200
just saying some ideas on how you can

890
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,480
decrease your water usage.

891
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,359
>> And conservation right now is a huge

892
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:35,839
topic in our state. It's

893
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,480
>> I I understand that, but this is a plan.

894
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,119
This is a city's plan. And if it says I

895
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,520
plan to reduce water usage by reducing

896
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440
lot size and and allowing for multif

897
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,960
family homes,

898
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,200
>> say that it doesn't say that. This is

899
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,160
factors

900
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,119
>> to decrease.

901
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,240
>> These could impact.

902
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,440
>> Okay. I'm not saying not going to vote

903
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,160
for this, but they leave it in there.

904
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560
I'm giving you my opinion.

905
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,640
>> Love it. Okay. Let's keep going though.

906
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Okay. anything here.

907
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,040
>> Yeah. Number four, the when we've got

908
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680
install drip irrigation, replace

909
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,400
Kentucky blueg grass. Now, if this is

910
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,960
stuff that the city's going to do, then we need to decide for that. If if

911
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,160
it's encouraged like the first point

912
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,880
was, then I say we say encourage on all

913
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,839
of these.

914
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:35,760
The first sentence says the city make um

915
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,839
it well it says what does it say

916
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:40,720
>> can take it doesn't say it has to take

917
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,720
it just these are some

918
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,320
>> ways ideas

919
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,640
>> it just says

920
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,040
>> right here

921
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,560
>> they're bullet they're bullet points

922
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,320
they're independent one of them says

923
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,880
encourage local

924
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,839
>> the very top line the top line

925
00:37:55,839 --> 00:37:57,280
>> I know

926
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,920
>> switch it to me

927
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,400
>> it says methods of reducing water. So,

928
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,720
it's just giving suggestions of ways

929
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,160
that people can reduce water,

930
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,200
>> but I'm looking at that particular one.

931
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200
says reduce water

932
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680
used for landscaping. Encourage local

933
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,720
scape or zeroscape landscaping.

934
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,440
>> Then it says install irrigation systems,

935
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,480
not encourage installing drip irrigation

936
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,480
systems. Says replace Kentucky

937
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,720
bluegrass. So, that is the city going to

938
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,000
do that or are we going to encourage

939
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,440
people to replace? Is it suggesting?

940
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,960
>> Listen, you're not It needs to be It

941
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,920
needs to be the same format.

942
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,640
>> I think it is.

943
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,640
>> One of them says encouraged and they all

944
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,870
should be encouraged.

945
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,560
» I just think that this is a list of

946
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,240
ideas that citizens may or may not use.

947
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,000
And if we get to a point where we're

948
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,599
required to

949
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,680
>> That's not how it reads, Carrie. It

950
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,200
reads that we're going to encourage

951
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,040
people to do one of them and the rest of

952
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,960
them we're going to do.

953
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,280
>> Yeah. I I think maybe the fastest way I

954
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,720
think I hear what you're saying, Brian.

955
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,920
Maybe what we do is we just put um in

956
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,760
the top says reduce water usage for

957
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,359
landscaping, you can just put methods to

958
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:16,480
reduce water used in landscaping and

959
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,160
then remove the word encourage on that

960
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,160
first bullet uh first bullet and just

961
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,000
put local escape. And then that way

962
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,760
those are all ways that you can reduce

963
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,640
water.

964
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,119
>> We have methods. The the very first word

965
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,960
of this whole thing is methods of

966
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,640
reducing water. So all of them are

967
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,359
methods.

968
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:33,760
>> Yes.

969
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,440
>> Yeah. But one of them is doing something

970
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,119
and one of them is encouraging other

971
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,320
people to do something. Carrie

972
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,160
>> about the main title the main title of

973
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,960
the whole

974
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200
>> not hearing me.

975
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,720
>> Okay. I'm sorry.

976
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,119
is saying you're going to encourage

977
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,440
residents to do something. And the very

978
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
next point

979
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,839
>> says you're going to do something. It

980
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:59,119
didn't say encourage. Now it now

981
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,079
>> now it's a possible

982
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:03,440
>> for interpretation.

983
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,560
>> Yeah.

984
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,240
>> Well, yeah, it's English.

985
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,640
>> So, exactly. And we're saying up here at

986
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,480
the beginning it says

987
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,160
>> I get that. I get

988
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,079
>> these five bullet points are actions the

989
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,640
city may take

990
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,760
thus making them all

991
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,560
possible things we could do though not

992
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,079
required

993
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,079
>> at this point they're not required but

994
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,560
they could be required I mean the state

995
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,720
>> they're required

996
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:35,920
>> in the future

997
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,359
>> does this does this help right number

998
00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:41,040
>> thanks

999
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,320
>> this water used for landscaping ing

1000
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
local scape.

1001
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,079
>> Install drip replace Kentucky reduce. So

1002
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:51,920
they're all now possible.

1003
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,640
>> So that meets your point.

1004
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,520
>> Perfect. Okay. Next.

1005
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,119
>> Good job, man.

1006
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:03,270
>> Well, we're I love

1007
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,160
keep it going.

1008
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,430
Um

1009
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,480
so in number six it talks about review

1010
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,119
ordinances policies about street trees

1011
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,040
to ensure it promotes water efficient

1012
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,119
and native tree. We don't have street

1013
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,760
trees. Matter of fact we require people

1014
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,720
to prune them back a certain distance

1015
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,280
for our code. I don't know that that's

1016
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,440
necessary.

1017
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,040
>> Keep in mind we still haven't completely

1018
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,079
developed. So

1019
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:32,480
>> yeah,

1020
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,480
>> that's that is true.

1021
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,760
>> As we continue to build,

1022
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,920
>> we could Yeah, we could do somewhere we

1023
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,280
could do

1024
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,720
>> we don't have them now, but it could be

1025
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:44,240
something we could have future.

1026
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,480
>> On the base, the bottom might require

1027
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040
get to get a few trees. Who knows?

1028
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,720
>> You're right. 100%. I agree with you.

1029
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,750
>> Next.

1030
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,800
» I'm way down now.

1031
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:12,230
>> Perfect. Anybody else here?

1032
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,520
Okay. Anything on this page?

1033
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,910
>> I do not.

1034
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,440
» We don't want to ring the bell on nice

1035
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,870
sky.

1036
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,079
» Sorry, couldn't resist. Anything here?

1037
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,160
Um,

1038
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,079
>> it says night.

1039
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,880
>> Not that one. Wait, this looks

1040
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,760
different.

1041
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,280
>> Where's the chipper day section?

1042
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,950
>> Is it further down?

1043
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,440
» Awesome.

1044
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,240
>> Yeah, maybe I'm much further down. Okay.

1045
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,520
>> Chipper days.

1046
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,720
>> 91.

1047
00:42:52,720 --> 00:43:01,030
Yeah.

1048
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,870
Okay, here's 91.

1049
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,109
» No, it's right here.

1050
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,839
» So, it has shifted. Format's shifted on.

1051
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:14,319
>> Yeah, something something shifted on it.

1052
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:16,560
>> Yeah, this is

1053
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,240
>> Oh, go up maybe then.

1054
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:24,480
>> Where'd it go? Or did it get deleted?

1055
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,079
It's probably covered by your

1056
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:29,920
>> wildfire mitigation objectives and

1057
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,560
strategies.

1058
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,920
>> It should be right above there. It's

1059
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,829
just missing.

1060
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,480
» So my question is and and this applies

1061
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
to that and the little chart there. So

1062
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,440
it says that we

1063
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,359
host annual community days, which we do,

1064
00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:47,359
but what happens if we don't get the

1065
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:49,440
grants that we use for that or have

1066
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,560
extra funds to do it in the future? We

1067
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,319
wanna

1068
00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:56,960
kind of word it as, you know, does our

1069
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,720
best to host tipper days.

1070
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,760
Um, and Ted, I'm that gonna kind of lean

1071
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,839
towards you because you get the grants

1072
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:09,670
for that. Um,

1073
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,240
» well, so it's it's it's a it's actually

1074
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,920
a county thing. You don't it's tipper

1075
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,280
days is something they come and do. It's

1076
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,000
not granted yet. They're

1077
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,319
CWP funding.

1078
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,240
Um,

1079
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:28,480
so I mean it's saying Wooden Hill hosts

1080
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,800
Kernese, which is a present tense

1081
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,280
verbiage, which is not untrue. We do

1082
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,400
host. Um, but if we want to change it to

1083
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,960
when the nails may host days, that'd be

1084
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,560
fine with me. I

1085
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,800
>> I just want I don't want to tie it tie

1086
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,440
us into something that that we feel that

1087
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,960
we don't have the funding for. Does that

1088
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,560
make sense? That's I'm just kind of

1089
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,160
concerned with that.

1090
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,400
>> I think it's a present day or present

1091
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,760
tense verbiage meaning we do.

1092
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,680
>> Uh I don't know that commits us to the

1093
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,079
future, but if you want to book May,

1094
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:06,079
that's fine, too. Does it help with our wildland interface ordinances

1095
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,240
and this the new law that just came out

1096
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:11,599
from the state to to have that as as

1097
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:15,920
listed so that um that helps with their

1098
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,079
formulas or anything that we actually

1099
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:24,390
are actively mitigating

1100
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,790
because I know that the insurance

1101
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,079
» but it doesn't uh it's not going

1102
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,319
start mapping because we're gay.

1103
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:36,400
>> Yeah. As long as it doesn't lock us into

1104
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,920
anything.

1105
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,880
>> Well, Brian, the old plan has a a trail

1106
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960
all around the city that doesn't exist.

1107
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,760
Bunch of other things. So,

1108
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
>> I haven't had to vote on that. I don't

1109
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,280
>> none of it locks us in. I don't think

1110
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,119
>> these are all ideas to think about as we

1111
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:53,839
grow in the future.

1112
00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:55,280
>> They're just things we want. This is

1113
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,319
like a wish list. I like that we have it

1114
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:00,640
in that we have chipper days because

1115
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,800
we're not going to be here forever and

1116
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,960
it helps people as they come in to

1117
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,800
recognize that this has been a

1118
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,200
longstanding tradition

1119
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,720
for over a decade or so that that we've

1120
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,440
done this and we wouldn't want to just

1121
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,920
say well it was a May because our

1122
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,720
residents kind of count on it and we us

1123
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,599
when I mean Ted usually figures it out.

1124
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,000
>> Yes. But what happens when Ted's not

1125
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,319
here and the city is is is in a dire

1126
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:35,040
straits with money and and that's what

1127
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,280
I'm that's what I'm asking. I I get if

1128
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,760
Ted says it's not locking us in, I'm

1129
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,200
happy with that. But if we're not in a

1130
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,119
spot where we do it,

1131
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:46,800
>> I think it's a present tense verbiage.

1132
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,160
It's saying we currently do.

1133
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,040
>> I don't know about the grants.

1134
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,800
>> I don't like the part about the grants.

1135
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,560
I just think may

1136
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,760
>> Yeah. Because it's not really a grant

1137
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,280
that we get to do this. It's just

1138
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,520
collaborating with the county.

1139
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,599
>> If we stop doing it, we amend the

1140
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:02,640
general plan.

1141
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,720
>> Yeah.

1142
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,160
>> It doesn't lock us in anything. Like I

1143
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,400
say, I I would say there's a lot of

1144
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,319
things in the old general plan that

1145
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:12,160
never came to fruition. It's a wish

1146
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,400
list.

1147
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,000
>> And that's why we want to do the

1148
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,760
strategic plan along with it so that

1149
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,760
there's actionable items associated with

1150
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,599
this.

1151
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:21,839
you into something then

1152
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:25,440
>> which I think in some cases

1153
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,040
>> that's good

1154
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,319
>> strategy that tells you how

1155
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:31,200
>> anything here

1156
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,640
>> these goals

1157
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,319
>> is the developments is that I mean well

1158
00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:38,720
again I'm not I'm not against cluster

1159
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,920
developments but I guess this just is

1160
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640
consider I mean when we say consider

1161
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,400
them I guess that's if someone brings it

1162
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,109
to us. Yes.

1163
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:52,640
Where are you?

1164
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,640
>> That would most likely be

1165
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,960
>> number one be be number one right there.

1166
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
So it says consider cluster developments

1167
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,640
or conservation easements.

1168
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,560
I don't

1169
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,839
>> it's not our land

1170
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:08,400
>> a development agreement too because you

1171
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,800
know like Summit Creek they have areas

1172
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,839
that are clustered um smaller lot size

1173
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,359
clustered even though their overall

1174
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:18,720
density remains the same. So that that

1175
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,680
might be what it's like is if we

1176
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,760
consider having like all along 11200

1177
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,839
maybe we would do more clustered so that

1178
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:31,440
it's just not all one big lawn area

1179
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,760
>> and consider is an extremely loose term.

1180
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,240
>> Yeah,

1181
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,119
>> that what I'm I'm I'm kind of rereading

1182
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:42,390
there. Um

1183
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,640
» and we we have discussed a conservation

1184
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:51,750
easement for the uh switchbacks.

1185
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,119
» Okay. Any issue here with these goals?

1186
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:59,910
This goal three A and B.

1187
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,839
Nope.

1188
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:08,390
Okay. Chapter nine. One. Two more to go.

1189
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,920
anything there.

1190
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,760
>> You need a new sign.

1191
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,599
>> Yeah. Um

1192
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,520
>> I was an Eagle Scout project.

1193
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,240
>> I know, but those don't last forever.

1194
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,480
>> I think it's like 25 years. 20 years

1195
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,680
old, isn't it?

1196
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,480
>> Yeah. It's just old.

1197
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,599
>> Okay.

1198
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,599
The

1199
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:32,240
nine. Yeah, they're on the on the left

1200
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,200
under existing conditions. Um, can we

1201
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520
add volunteers into the group? So, it

1202
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,359
says

1203
00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:41,680
relies on a combination of municipal

1204
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,000
systems, private enterprises, and

1205
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,000
contract services, but we also rely on

1206
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,760
volunteers as well. I think that's

1207
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:55,589
important to put that in there.

1208
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:56,880
» Page 96.

1209
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,880
>> Yeah, I'm just looking I see volunteers

1210
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,880
later, so by that, but I see where

1211
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,079
you're putting that in.

1212
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:03,920
>> Yeah. And then the city provides some

1213
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,240
sewing sewer

1214
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,800
and whole culinary. I don't know how,

1215
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,200
you know, I don't want to I don't know.

1216
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,640
That's not a big deal. That was just

1217
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:21,829
some points there.

1218
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:26,309
» Okay.

1219
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:27,839
» I don't have anything tell emergency

1220
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:30,960
services, so you got a minute.

1221
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,920
>> Okay. Anything here from

1222
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,280
the three of you?

1223
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,839
>> Yeah, this is pretty um generic.

1224
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:40,960
>> Yeah.

1225
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,359
>> Okay.

1226
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:48,470
>> Except for Yeah.

1227
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,920
» Emergency services,

1228
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,119
>> right? It says seeking to replace

1229
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:59,599
vehicles every 15 years and and 10 years

1230
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,200
and

1231
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
That's and we just replaced we just got

1232
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,040
rid of an engine. So I would say seeking

1233
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,280
to maintain a certified first response

1234
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,829
fire engine.

1235
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:15,440
» Well, isn't that some of your your

1236
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,839
language too, Ted, about when to replace

1237
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:20,480
them? Just so that people are aware more

1238
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,119
of a timetable like because we don't

1239
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:24,960
know that it needs replaced until the

1240
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,520
fire chief starts mentioning it. But if

1241
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,440
it's in the plan that you can say oh

1242
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680
about every 10 years or whatever they

1243
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,359
do. What wasn't that suggested?

1244
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:36,079
>> You can say you can say 10 years.

1245
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,200
>> What I suggested was that we what when I

1246
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,800
talked to Daniel about said we replace

1247
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,119
these to comply with NFPA. Y

1248
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,760
>> which is generally every 15 years.

1249
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,480
>> Yeah.

1250
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,480
>> So we can just be put between vehicles

1251
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,549
in every put generally.

1252
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:54,640
Is

1253
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,119
>> that a double L or a single L?

1254
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:57,920
Mayor.

1255
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,280
>> Yes, sir.

1256
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,040
>> Go back. I think it's a misstatement

1257
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,599
here. Under internet service,

1258
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,640
Summit Creek is serviced by Century

1259
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,359
Link, not Centric.

1260
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:12,240
>> Yeah.

1261
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:13,680
>> What page is that?

1262
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,880
>> It's on page 98.

1263
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,240
>> Is all Summit Creek

1264
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,880
>> right there. They're not ser.

1265
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,040
>> No, Summit Creek all has Centric.

1266
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:23,680
>> They are.

1267
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,000
>> Yeah. Their whole entire development is

1268
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,720
Centric comp.

1269
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,559
>> Okay. My mistake.

1270
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,760
>> But page 27, you refer to GPS tracking

1271
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,960
as well. We don't have GPS tracking

1272
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,559
>> right here above the I saw it.

1273
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,640
>> That's a Yeah, and I read that too.

1274
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,559
Look, Jody, and that is a

1275
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,800
>> a possibility. Those are things that we

1276
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040
could think of these efforts may

1277
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,079
include. So, yes, we don't have it, but

1278
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,359
could do that again. Well, and we at one

1279
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:54,000
time thought

1280
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,440
>> we don't want to lock us into that

1281
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,920
>> that we would have that just on this

1282
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,319
>> may include

1283
00:53:00,319 --> 00:53:02,160
>> I know. I'm just teasing you, Brian.

1284
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,079
>> I know you. I know you are.

1285
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:06,880
>> I'm poking you. I got to poke the bear.

1286
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,480
>> Once again, it's a may. It's an idea.

1287
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,839
Other cities do this a lot.

1288
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:10,640
>> Yeah.

1289
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,160
>> Helps them make more efficient. Will we

1290
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,400
ever do it? Likely not. But when I

1291
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,559
talked to Daniel about this, it was uh

1292
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,000
you know, we keep it in there as an idea

1293
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,400
for the future. But that's why the May

1294
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,480
is there. Don't know that we would ever

1295
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,680
really need it here.

1296
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:31,589
Our routes aren't that complicated.

1297
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:35,920
Just commentary on just

1298
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,240
this picture of the engine is 192.

1299
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,079
That's the one that's out the door.

1300
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,720
>> I don't know if you want to update it.

1301
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,200
>> 191.

1302
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,760
>> Okay. Yeah,

1303
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,119
>> just I mean again it's not a big deal

1304
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,240
that just I noticed that.

1305
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:51,520
>> Okay, Santa

1306
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,440
>> kissing 192 is a left.

1307
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,800
>> And the roundabout picture is going to

1308
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,160
need to be changed, too.

1309
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,880
>> Yeah, that's true. And the mailbox. But

1310
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,000
I like that angle. Did you take that or

1311
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:04,640
somebody else?

1312
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,200
>> I did not.

1313
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,400
>> He stood out in the middle of traffic

1314
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,640
and risked it.

1315
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,800
>> I just like that the mailboxes and the

1316
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680
mountain and the clouds

1317
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,680
and flag pole. Yeah, I'm make that

1318
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,920
border really ugly so I remember to do

1319
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,599
something about it.

1320
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:21,680
>> Hey, so the the next change that I have

1321
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,359
in that same area there, mayor and Ted,

1322
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:27,359
you can, you know, definitely definitely

1323
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:30,400
chime in, but the way this is worded um

1324
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,760
says the city the city purchased a new

1325
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,480
engine 2023. As of 2025, the department

1326
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,359
owns two brush.

1327
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:42,000
This includes a heavy brush. Okay,

1328
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,480
that's all that's all different. So if

1329
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,160
you include the heavy brush, there's

1330
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,119
three brush trucks,

1331
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,920
including the heavy brush truck.

1332
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,880
One designed

1333
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,200
for extended fire operation

1334
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,880
in off-road areas.

1335
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,920
It also

1336
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,760
>> two brush trucks and the the water

1337
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,240
tender is actually the brush truck, but

1338
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,480
>> I know this the way it's worded and and

1339
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,240
you can go in and reward this all the

1340
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,280
way you want to. So, two brush trucks

1341
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,920
plus a heavy brush tender,

1342
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,880
not a tender. It's a heavy brush truck

1343
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,720
and a tender. It's also served as a

1344
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:26,640
tender.

1345
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,200
You could put uh this the this this

1346
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,400
these these I would just take out heavy

1347
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,760
right there. This includes brush trucks.

1348
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,839
designed for

1349
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:39,599
extended firefighting operations in

1350
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,200
off-road areas and a water tender.

1351
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,800
A support vehicle ignores.

1352
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,359
>> We have two brush trucks. This includes

1353
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:51,040
I wouldn't say brush trucks again. This

1354
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,079
includes truck or includes maybe

1355
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,400
apparatuses designed for extended

1356
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,839
firefighting operations in off-road

1357
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:00,720
areas and a water tender.

1358
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,079
>> I have no idea how to spell apparatus.

1359
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:05,280
>> Is apparatus or is it plural apparati?

1360
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,270
>> Don't you dare go there.

1361
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,960
» How do you spell apparatus?

1362
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,160
>> Two ps.

1363
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:21,670
A p a r a tus.

1364
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,839
There you go.

1365
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:26,559
Apparatuses is

1366
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:29,119
>> apparatuses designed for extended and a

1367
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:30,319
water tender. That's probably a better

1368
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:32,559
way to say that.

1369
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,880
>> This is the most scholastically accurate

1370
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:41,109
document ever.

1371
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:42,240
» All right.

1372
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,720
>> The next paragraph. And again, this is

1373
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:47,040
you can do this however you want, Chief.

1374
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,760
But I don't the way we this this next

1375
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,520
section is worded about the full-time

1376
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,480
crew is completely backward. The city

1377
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,319
employed the full-time crew to do

1378
00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:58,240
wildfire mitigation around town. The

1379
00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:59,920
city has an arrangement where this crew

1380
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,920
these crew members can be called away to

1381
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,920
assist national emergency wildfires.

1382
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,359
It's the other way. We hire we have a

1383
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:08,000
crew that can that's hired to do the

1384
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,799
emergency wildfires and while they're in

1385
00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:12,559
town and not deployed,

1386
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,400
>> they do fire mitigation.

1387
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,200
>> Yeah.

1388
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,119
So just put those two sentences

1389
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:38,150
>> those two around

1390
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,520
city has an arrangement

1391
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,599
crew members can be called away to

1392
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:45,680
assist nationally on emergency

1393
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,870
wildfires.

1394
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,839
» But again, that's also local, state, and

1395
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:53,359
>> you got to leave that first sentence.

1396
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:55,440
While the city has year- round volunteer

1397
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,799
firefighting crews, that's got to be the

1398
00:57:56,799 --> 00:58:06,710
first sentence in the paragraph.

1399
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,559
» Just go after firefighting, fire,

1400
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,319
volunteer firefighting crew. Cut that

1401
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,880
out. Put it as the first sentence.

1402
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:25,829
Okay.

1403
00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:28,720
I've got it worded. Mayor, the seasonal

1404
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,720
full-time crew is employed to respond to

1405
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,040
local and national emergencies and

1406
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,960
performs mitigation efforts around town

1407
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,319
when they are not deployed.

1408
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:40,640
That Ted, do you like that?

1409
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,799
>> Yeah, that sounds good. write that up

1410
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:44,079
and send it to me.

1411
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:46,799
>> Yes, sir. I can do that.

1412
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,799
>> You can even just text.

1413
00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:50,880
>> Yeah, I'll do that. Now, the next part

1414
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,599
is where it says helps cover municipal

1415
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,119
cost. Just delete cover of municipal

1416
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:01,119
or helps I'm sorry, helps and municipal.

1417
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:04,480
Um, this on call service covers

1418
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,040
municipal cost or covers cost for the

1419
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,319
professional crew and equipment.

1420
00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:12,400
And we could even say it also brings in

1421
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,920
revenue at the end.

1422
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,440
>> How about that?

1423
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,960
>> That works.

1424
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960
>> It doesn't always bring in revenue

1425
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,680
>> on call service.

1426
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,760
>> First year, right?

1427
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,319
>> We're We're in the black, sister.

1428
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:30,309
>> I know. We are now.

1429
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:32,160
» It all depends on the fire year.

1430
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,920
>> It depends on the year though.

1431
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,400
>> Yep. Absolutely. We had one year which

1432
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,920
was our second year actually that

1433
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,920
>> it was yeah there was one year that we

1434
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,920
weren't

1435
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,839
>> enough the first year that covered that

1436
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:46,240
plus more

1437
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:56,069
>> somebody didn't want to go out on fires.

1438
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,829
» Okay.

1439
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:05,829
Law enforcement, anything?

1440
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:11,190
» City buildings and property.

1441
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,200
» How about these goals?

1442
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,799
>> Yeah. Goal 3A.

1443
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:21,430
Number two.

1444
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,319
» So, if this isn't locking us in, wait,

1445
01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:27,280
that's not goal three down. You're on

1446
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,280
goal two.

1447
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,319
Yeah,

1448
01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:31,119
>> thank you.

1449
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,119
>> There we go.

1450
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,040
>> So, it says maintain a seasonal

1451
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,319
full-time wild fire mitigation crew.

1452
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:41,920
That isn't guaranteed. Again, TED is

1453
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,079
working hard to keep this going, but I

1454
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,319
don't want to say that

1455
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:49,280
we're going

1456
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,119
>> it's a goal.

1457
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,280
>> That's if it doesn't lock us in, I'm

1458
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,400
great with that's all I wanted to say.

1459
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,559
No, this is this is a goal for us to

1460
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:04,069
continue to maintain that full time per

1461
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:06,400
just wanted to double check that one.

1462
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,710
Made me nervous.

1463
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,160
» I don't think it's a commitment. It's a

1464
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,119
goal of course.

1465
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:16,240
>> Okay, I like it. And I that's it for me.

1466
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:25,270
Mayor, you guys can I'll mute myself.

1467
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,640
Jody, what do you got for me on

1468
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,280
annexation?

1469
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,119
Have you read through this?

1470
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:32,799
>> We've learned a lot lately.

1471
01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:34,720
>> We've learned a lot through annexation.

1472
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,589
I have not.

1473
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,079
» Okay. Does anybody have any thoughts on

1474
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:45,040
chapter 10 from your guys's review?

1475
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,760
>> Well, and some of this is just based on

1476
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,000
state law anyway. So,

1477
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,920
>> it it looks like it's all state, though.

1478
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,720
>> Yeah. And it's and it's anote it's it's

1479
01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:00,309
put in there 10-2-401.5.

1480
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:03,280
So I think as long as if that's ever

1481
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,079
updated, it will automatically update

1482
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:08,960
us.

1483
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,520
>> Okay.

1484
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:15,430
>> Some of it's not.

1485
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,559
We we probably need to take another look

1486
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:22,400
at that and we can do so as part of the

1487
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,319
public hearing

1488
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:26,319
uh to see if there's any misstatements

1489
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:29,599
in here. I quickly looked it over a day

1490
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:33,920
or so ago and it was generalities.

1491
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,040
Uh it wasn't specific as to processes.

1492
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,760
So I can plan to come to planning

1493
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,280
commission on that day if we need to

1494
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,680
make any adjustments.

1495
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,839
We'll present this back. There's not

1496
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:47,520
going to be a vote. We'll present this

1497
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,920
the changes and everything back to the

1498
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,040
council once the public hearing is held.

1499
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,960
>> Okay.

1500
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,960
Well, wonderful. Any other thoughts or

1501
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,280
comments on the general plan side from

1502
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,230
any of the council members?

1503
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,480
» Just those red lines that seemed okay

1504
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,559
when I read through them. It it's

1505
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:10,400
interesting because the it I feel like

1506
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,920
the chapters that are just pulled in

1507
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,200
with data don't need as much overhauling

1508
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,079
maybe as some of the other ones that we

1509
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:19,520
>> Yeah, there's less subjectivity about

1510
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,000
it.

1511
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,520
>> Yeah,

1512
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,359
>> they don't seem to have as much. I mean,

1513
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:24,559
you can't really

1514
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:26,559
>> And the red lines just appear to be just

1515
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,000
a clarification more than substantive of

1516
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,440
the the message.

1517
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,520
>> Seven. Number six.

1518
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,520
Um,

1519
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,440
that was pulled in incorrectly.

1520
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,000
Says the Utah code definition and then

1521
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,280
it says whose boundaries are within 1/2

1522
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,760
of the area proposed for annexation.

1523
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,150
That's not correct.

1524
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,039
» Half of the proposed for annexation.

1525
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,680
>> So is that because that's a five acre

1526
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,119
parcel. Are they saying you have to

1527
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,599
do two ac 2 and a half acres of the

1528
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:07,920
annexation area? So I don't think that's

1529
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:08,960
correct.

1530
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,039
>> It's co defining the code the state

1531
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:13,039
code. So maybe that's the state code.

1532
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:14,880
>> I Yeah, we just went over the state code

1533
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,680
with

1534
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,440
>> I've bolded this

1535
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,520
>> and so let's take a look at it as I make

1536
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,200
these edits tomorrow

1537
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,720
>> because that's one thing that I asked

1538
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,880
Daniel to do is that anything he put in

1539
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,280
here that had state code to make sure it

1540
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,079
was documented as such. Perfect. Yeah,

1541
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:31,839
we'll just double check it. That'll be

1542
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:35,039
worked out. Great. Okay, if there's

1543
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:38,470
nothing else,

1544
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,319
wonderful. Okay, then we're going to

1545
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:42,960
move on to number two. If anybody online

1546
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,559
had any thoughts or feelings during

1547
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:47,359
that, I'd love to take note of those and

1548
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:49,680
when we get to the public comment,

1549
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:50,559
please let us

1550
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:51,760
>> I had a text.

1551
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,440
>> I did, too.

1552
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,240
>> So, so you want them to say it during

1553
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,760
the public comment period. Okay.

1554
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:58,880
>> Yep.

1555
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,599
Wonderful. Okay,

1556
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:03,039
we're going to move on to number two,

1557
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:05,119
proposed accounting service contract.

1558
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:06,880
This is a discussion regarding the

1559
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,119
proposed accounting services contract

1560
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:13,119
with um Charlene Wild.

1561
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:16,960
Um this is in your packet, correct?

1562
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,920
Um we went through like I talked to you

1563
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,240
guys about this last council meeting.

1564
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:27,119
Um, we interviewed some fabulous uh,

1565
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:29,920
potential applicants for this role. Um,

1566
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,799
and it was not an easy decision, but it

1567
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,760
really just kind of boiled down to a

1568
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,920
cultural fit because their both their

1569
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,440
skill levels was exquisite. Um, and so

1570
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,200
we decided to go with um, Charlene Wild.

1571
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,480
Um, for full disclosure, I

1572
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,960
kind of have been working with her over

1573
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,280
the last four years over at the transfer

1574
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,960
station, though I'd never met her

1575
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,480
before. I just pulled the referral from

1576
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,160
them. Um, and we interviewed her,

1577
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,920
myself, Lori, Jody, Wayne. Um, sat down

1578
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,319
with all the applicants and this is who

1579
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:10,000
we felt would be the best fit for the

1580
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,440
city. Um, any questions on that

1581
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,839
>> or concerns?

1582
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:18,880
when are we just she how how many she

1583
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,240
doesn't come into the office right

1584
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,200
because she's working

1585
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,760
>> she will be coming into the office um at

1586
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,640
least once a quarter and she'd be h she

1587
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,720
says she'd be happy to join us at a

1588
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,280
council meeting here and there if needed

1589
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,839
so and she's available um and I know

1590
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,359
we've discussed this a little bit Brian

1591
01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:37,599
in the past at our last meeting but if

1592
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,640
you guys have questions um feel free to

1593
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,680
give Lori a call first um and if she

1594
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,079
can't help then you guys are welcome to

1595
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:47,760
give her a call as well. She's

1596
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,119
anticipating those types of

1597
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:50,000
correspondence.

1598
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,680
>> Could you restate for the public record

1599
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,920
how much we're saving annually by going

1600
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,960
this route?

1601
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,839
>> Um so it's so she is an hourly waged um

1602
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:03,680
contract um at $95 an hour with a 2%

1603
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,680
increase for cost of living um each

1604
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,319
year. Um I talked with her and we

1605
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:12,319
shifted that not from her year or date

1606
01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:15,520
of hire but that increase will happen at

1607
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,319
fiscal year. So that way it helps with

1608
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:21,280
the budgeting. Um so she she agreed with

1609
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,160
that logic. Um, we're going from around

1610
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,559
$150,000 with benefits, um, uh,

1611
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,720
retirement, health care, all of those

1612
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,400
different calculations adding into that

1613
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,920
$150,000

1614
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:40,000
down to on a high-end $15,000.

1615
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,079
So, you can kind of do that math. 120ish

1616
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:47,599
plus,000 savings a year from where we

1617
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:52,160
were to this. Now, she is not taking on

1618
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,319
100% of the the duties that our former

1619
01:07:56,319 --> 01:08:00,240
employee held. Um, but those duties are

1620
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,720
all being taken care of. Um, and you'll

1621
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,359
see those reflected in our next item.

1622
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:10,240
Uh, where there are slight bumps to

1623
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:15,280
um wages for those increased duties.

1624
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,080
So, any other questions there?

1625
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,799
Um, so when next time you have her in on

1626
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,480
quarterly, can it be on a day that we

1627
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:24,000
have council meetings so we can meet

1628
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,640
her?

1629
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,520
>> Yeah, so she's in town every twice a

1630
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,640
week,

1631
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,600
>> um, up in Oro and so she said she'd be

1632
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,080
more than happy to stop by. So great.

1633
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,600
>> Be nice.

1634
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,719
>> Just an introduction.

1635
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:40,080
>> So, um, call Lori first and then if we

1636
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,159
still have questions, call Charlene.

1637
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:43,759
>> Yep.

1638
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:45,839
>> But I don't want to bar you guys from

1639
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:47,440
calling Charlene. So, did you send us

1640
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:49,440
her contact information then?

1641
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:51,120
>> Uh, you should have it. It's also

1642
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,040
Charlenewood Hills.

1643
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,679
>> Okay.

1644
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,440
>> I got it right. I got it wrong earlier

1645
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:58,960
today.

1646
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,719
Okay. Then let's move on to number

1647
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:03,359
three. Uh, the fiscal year 2027 budget

1648
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:05,839
presentation. So, this is the mayor's

1649
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:08,400
budget for the 2027.

1650
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,679
Um, this is

1651
01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:14,400
the document that we went that you each

1652
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,799
of you went through. um all of the

1653
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:20,560
different items that you selected. Um

1654
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,400
and we then went to the finance

1655
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,279
committee for two different meetings. Um

1656
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,440
and then this is what we kind of

1657
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:29,440
compiled

1658
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:31,040
um as we went through those three

1659
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,040
exercises.

1660
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,359
So there shouldn't be anything too uh

1661
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:37,359
crazy. I do want to make a few

1662
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,920
highlights for you guys though on things

1663
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,440
that have changed a little bit since

1664
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:47,440
um you guys saw this last.

1665
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:50,000
If you will go to

1666
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,839
>> give us the numbers. Yeah,

1667
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:54,960
>> exactly. Page probably there's I know

1668
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:55,840
there's no page.

1669
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:56,880
>> I was going to say there's no page

1670
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:57,360
number.

1671
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,520
>> So go to expenditures.

1672
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:00,159
Um

1673
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:02,719
>> it was just like 3610 or whatever.

1674
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:05,840
>> Yep. Let's go to account number

1675
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,760
4

1676
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,320
1111.6.

1677
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,760
>> Neither.

1678
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,640
>> Correct.

1679
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,040
>> Oh,

1680
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,159
>> let me actually see you in here.

1681
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:20,630
Well, actually, let's go to 411.10.

1682
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,800
So, this is

1683
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,840
>> what

1684
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,520
>> this is mayor and council wages.

1685
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,080
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I've actually

1686
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:33,199
proposed an increase um of I wish I had

1687
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:36,560
my notes on this um here. Let me pull

1688
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,840
these real fast so that I

1689
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,840
>> Oh, I have the old one, but it's I don't

1690
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:40,480
have it with me.

1691
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:42,080
>> I've got them right here. We should be

1692
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:48,550
okay. Hopefully,

1693
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,840
» Jody, off the top of your head, you

1694
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,880
remember what I did here?

1695
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,149
>> Yeah.

1696
01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:00,640
Uh so this is a proposed increase of

1697
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,760
um 500 a month for the mayor to 600 a

1698
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,000
month. So $100 increase and for each of

1699
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,719
the council from 200 a month to 300 a

1700
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:11,600
month. Uh this is an increase mostly due

1701
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,520
to the fact that it has not increased

1702
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:18,320
for the last 12 years 13 years something

1703
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,920
along those lines.

1704
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,679
>> It's been a long while

1705
01:11:21,679 --> 01:11:22,000
>> um

1706
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,440
>> since I moved here. It was I believe the

1707
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:30,000
last change was under Mayor

1708
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,400
Nile Jensen

1709
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,480
>> was a change because you went from

1710
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:39,520
>> stipended to salary because we had to

1711
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,199
take into consideration. So there was a

1712
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:45,199
slight bump but it wasn't um

1713
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:48,159
>> it wasn't very significant.

1714
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:50,080
>> It was still went like from 3 cents to

1715
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,159
two cent I mean 3 cents to 4 cents.

1716
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:54,560
Yeah, I think it went from like

1717
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,480
>> under Toby it went up a little bit and

1718
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,239
then under Steve it went up a little bit

1719
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:00,239
but not

1720
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,239
>> so that's basically what that difference

1721
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:05,600
is from the 18,000 to the 25,200

1722
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,199
>> still nobody's running for this office

1723
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:08,719
for the pay.

1724
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:10,719
>> No and everybody should know that when

1725
01:12:10,719 --> 01:12:13,199
we we we pay our own travel expense and

1726
01:12:13,199 --> 01:12:14,800
that comes out of that

1727
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,880
>> which you know doesn't last a whole

1728
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,679
month.

1729
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:20,239
>> Exactly. some of us throw events for the

1730
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:22,239
city and spend more than that.

1731
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:24,239
>> You'll also see an increase in the FICA.

1732
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:26,880
So, the next line item um from the 1400

1733
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,960
to the 1928

1734
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,120
um that's just the difference in that

1735
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,920
increase for the FICA payment. Um the

1736
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,000
next one you will see is that 411.600.

1737
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,320
Um that is the mayor's expenses and I've

1738
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,199
added $1,000 there. Now, the reason for

1739
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:47,600
that, so the 500 originally usually

1740
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,960
comes in a form of

1741
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,600
a a thank you bonus to our staff at the

1742
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,120
end of the year is typically what that

1743
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,199
500 has been used for.

1744
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:01,280
>> Um the thousand increase is for a a few

1745
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,719
initiatives that I'm looking to start

1746
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:05,120
rolling out throughout the city. um

1747
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,040
which would be a thou the $1,000 would

1748
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,239
cover the costs of those uh basically

1749
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:15,840
dessert events for different residents

1750
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,520
throughout the city that we will rotate

1751
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,760
through. Um so that's where those

1752
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,440
expenses would be going.

1753
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,920
Any questions there?

1754
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,360
Okay.

1755
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,199
Um,

1756
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:33,280
council expenses we are dropping from

1757
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,719
the,000 down to the 500. That's

1758
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:38,239
basically

1759
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:43,760
um $100 each. Um, and we've really just

1760
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,159
never used it. every once in a while

1761
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:46,880
>> we don't use it

1762
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,600
>> cuz we also have the 300 in council

1763
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,640
discretionary that's typically used for

1764
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,320
things like um flowers sent to funerals

1765
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,400
for a family member of staff or us or

1766
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,440
whatever. Um and so you guys I want you

1767
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,040
guys to think about work together and

1768
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,600
let's use that in some capacity to

1769
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,199
benefit the residents of the city of

1770
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:14,159
Wooden Hills.

1771
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:17,440
The next thing you will see is the

1772
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:20,480
admin. Um, and I've I pushed these hard

1773
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:22,880
onto the the finance committee to take a

1774
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,880
look at and get their thoughts on. Um, I

1775
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,640
have discussed this slightly with some

1776
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,600
of the admin and some I have not. I am

1777
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,760
proposing a 2% cost of living increase

1778
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,000
um for

1779
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,640
uh Ted uh with his wage plus a 2%

1780
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,320
performance increase um for the the

1781
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,400
quality work. So it's a 4% increase

1782
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,239
total. Um that seems to be what is going

1783
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,719
on with other cities as I've spoken with

1784
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,520
them to for their compensation.

1785
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,000
Um, everybody else's is an increase kind

1786
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,600
of in a different way. Um, Jod's full

1787
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,159
budget or pay comes out of the general

1788
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:11,040
fund and I'm requesting a 6% raise there

1789
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,600
due to the additional duties that have

1790
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,640
been taken on

1791
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,080
um that we discussed earlier uh with the

1792
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,840
departure of our former employee.

1793
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,640
>> So, it's like 2% cost of living and then

1794
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,239
>> 4% raise,

1795
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,960
>> right? It's really a 2% increase on

1796
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,239
additional duties, a 2% increase on

1797
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,880
performance evaluation, and a 2% cost of

1798
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,280
living.

1799
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,480
>> Okay. Thanks for the break.

1800
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:40,560
>> Uhhuh. Um Lori, this is only 30% of

1801
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,600
Lor's wage that comes out of this um

1802
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,920
particular fund. Um, and she I'm

1803
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,159
requesting a 2% cost of living, uh, 2%

1804
01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:53,679
performance,

1805
01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:56,960
and then, if I do my math right, an 8%

1806
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,920
increase because she is taking on a

1807
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:01,120
significant amount of

1808
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,960
>> Which number is is Lor's compared to

1809
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,400
Jod's?

1810
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,440
>> This is only 30% of So, this is 50% of

1811
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,120
Ted's wage

1812
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,960
>> that's in here. 100% of Jod's wage, 30%

1813
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,120
of Lor's wage.

1814
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,400
Okay.

1815
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,440
>> 100% Jodie and 30%.

1816
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:22,000
>> And let's be clear, uh Lori's been doing

1817
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,080
those extra duties for a long time and

1818
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,679
not getting compensated for.

1819
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:28,480
>> Correct. This is somewhat of a catchup

1820
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:31,199
um for years of additional duties that

1821
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:33,679
she has not been compensated for.

1822
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:36,000
>> Mayor, can you give us the breakdown of

1823
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,239
where the former employees monies came

1824
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:40,640
from, his salaries, so that we can do

1825
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,880
that comparison as well?

1826
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,000
>> Uh yes. Yes. Um if that's okay, I will

1827
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000
go through that as we get through the

1828
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,440
budget. Would that work for you, Brian?

1829
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:50,960
>> Yeah. Yeah. I just want to know where it

1830
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,320
came from so we can we can compare it.

1831
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,960
>> Yes. Cuz now I've stripped all those out

1832
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,120
of all those different accounts so it's

1833
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,199
a little more transparent for us.

1834
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:03,360
>> Um well

1835
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,360
say the bookkeeper also I know you did

1836
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,280
it in finance but state here how many

1837
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,520
hours she said it will do take to do the

1838
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,960
job a month. Uh, it'll take her, she

1839
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,040
said about three hours. Isn't that what

1840
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,040
you guys remember? Three to four.

1841
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,520
>> Three to four hours a month to do this

1842
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,880
to do her side things

1843
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,719
>> employee. But our our full-time

1844
01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:24,400
employees are doing a greater chunk of

1845
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,320
it. So, that's one of the reasons.

1846
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,320
>> There is there's a lot more to it than

1847
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,920
just that. You are right. But I just

1848
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,040
wanted to like that that uh justifies

1849
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,880
the raises is what I'm is what I'm

1850
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,320
trying to say is because the employees

1851
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:37,600
are taking on

1852
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,679
>> so much so that the bookkeeper is only

1853
01:17:39,679 --> 01:17:41,679
doing so many hours.

1854
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:43,920
>> Sorry. I just I just know the naysayers

1855
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,920
hate raises and they hate salaries. So I

1856
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,360
just want to make sure everything's laid

1857
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,239
out

1858
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:49,360
>> so can be understood.

1859
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,600
>> There's a massive decrease in wage

1860
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,440
expenses for the city. Yeah.

1861
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:55,199
>> With all these raises.

1862
01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:59,840
>> Uh Toby 50% of Oh yes, Brian. Where is

1863
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,840
her? Are you gonna tell us where hers

1864
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,120
is?

1865
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,040
>> Which bucket it's coming out of later

1866
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,400
because it's not in professional

1867
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,520
services. So,

1868
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,800
>> and it's not in this line item. Correct.

1869
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,360
>> Okay.

1870
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,960
>> And I will once we get there, I will

1871
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,400
highlight that.

1872
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,600
>> So, 50% of Toby's wage also is coming

1873
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,280
out of here. Um, Toby, I had requested

1874
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,120
and this is actually back when you guys

1875
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:24,480
have already seen this. You've already

1876
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:26,400
seen this increase that I requested back

1877
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,239
then. This is a 2% um cost of living

1878
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:34,000
increase plus a 3% um performance. Um

1879
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,199
Toby has come on um predominantly his

1880
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:40,320
need was uh or desire was for an

1881
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,880
insurance package. Um and the wage was

1882
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,440
secondary though he was he has been an

1883
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:48,560
immense asset to our city and so I

1884
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,640
wanted to express our our gratitude

1885
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,440
there. he has saved us a lot of money

1886
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:55,199
and really increased our quality of

1887
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:57,679
service to our residents.

1888
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:00,239
Um

1889
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:05,199
so then if you go down FICA on the 2020

1890
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:09,920
or so if you look at the 4141.22

1891
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,480
that increase is just

1892
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,239
>> the equivalent increases due to the

1893
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:15,040
raises. Okay.

1894
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,400
>> Okay. as well as the retirement

1895
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,679
um admin health insurance. This

1896
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:24,000
drastically jumped from the 16,000 to

1897
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,920
the 44,000

1898
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,400
simply because I pulled it out of all of

1899
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,840
the other areas. This was

1900
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,480
articulated to combined

1901
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:37,120
>> used to be in streets, snowplow, wreck,

1902
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,600
parks, all over the place. And now it's

1903
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,560
just one place we can easily see it.

1904
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,199
>> Sense. Um everything else here. Um no.

1905
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:47,679
>> Okay.

1906
01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:50,480
>> Was it ever in water or sewer in

1907
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:51,920
enterprise accounts?

1908
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,199
>> Yes. We will get there when we get to

1909
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:54,800
those. I'll explain those those

1910
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,280
breakouts because the

1911
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,800
>> the other 50% of Ted and Toby are in the

1912
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:01,520
water fund.

1913
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,679
>> Yeah. But the you were you were just

1914
01:20:03,679 --> 01:20:07,199
saying you moved retirement to or not

1915
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:08,719
retirement.

1916
01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:10,320
Yeah.

1917
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,520
health insurance to general. Were those

1918
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,440
Was health insurance ever in the

1919
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:17,360
enterprise funds?

1920
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,040
>> Yes. I didn't move all of it. I just

1921
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,520
moved the associated percentages.

1922
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,760
>> Just back to Okay. I just want to keep

1923
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,159
those in the the enterprise fund.

1924
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:29,600
>> 50% of Ted's in health insurance, FICA,

1925
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,560
everything is in the general fund. 100%

1926
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,960
of Jod's benefits are from the general

1927
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,920
fund. 30% of Lor's are in the general

1928
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,640
fund. and 50% of Toby is in the general

1929
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,400
fund.

1930
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,000
Okay. So, if we keep going down here, um

1931
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,520
if you go down to

1932
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,080
um

1933
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,199
I'm seeing it here,

1934
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:01,910
4141.649

1935
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,159
» repairs, maintenance.

1936
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:08,640
>> Correct. Um, you will see Oh, what's

1937
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,719
going on here?

1938
01:21:10,719 --> 01:21:13,679
I've got an error.

1939
01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:17,199
Glad we're seeing this. That budget

1940
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:18,719
actually

1941
01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:21,920
should say

1942
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,239
134,000

1943
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,400
>> for the where it says under

1944
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,920
>> 975.

1945
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:28,960
Yep.

1946
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,800
>> Repeat that.

1947
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,830
>> 134,975.

1948
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,880
That's a big error.

1949
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:35,280
>> Yeah,

1950
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,520
>> it is a very big error, which helps me

1951
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,239
answer some questions.

1952
01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:43,120
>> That's why we're going through this.

1953
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,960
is what happens when you spend too

1954
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,360
much time staring at the document.

1955
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,840
>> Mhm. It's true.

1956
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,320
>> Okay. Please be patient with me while I

1957
01:21:52,320 --> 01:22:00,950
hurry and adjust that.

1958
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,040
34

1959
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,639
975.

1960
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:08,080
Now, this is all of the different things

1961
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,120
that you guys decided to vote on, mostly

1962
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,320
from Jod's request list. Okay.

1963
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,040
>> Yeah.

1964
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,520
>> Um the only thing that changed on that

1965
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,760
list that you guys voted on was a a

1966
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,159
wheelchair access ramp, which was

1967
01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:25,520
$4,000.

1968
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:26,000
>> Mhm.

1969
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,320
>> Um for the center building. Okay. That

1970
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,120
includes $2500 which would be the

1971
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,600
concrete ramp and then I'm budgeting

1972
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,480
another the the difference um

1973
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,800
potentially for handrails. I expect that

1974
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,920
to come in lower but that's kind of what

1975
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,600
that will end up looking like if anybody

1976
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,040
has any issues there.

1977
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,960
>> That was a citizen suggestion, wasn't

1978
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,280
it?

1979
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:47,600
>> Yes.

1980
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,679
>> Well, we've been planning that for a

1981
01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:51,600
long time. It just never were able to

1982
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,639
get it done.

1983
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:53,520
>> Yeah.

1984
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,920
And frankly, we need to so that we're in

1985
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,600
compliance and so we can take care of

1986
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,880
because we have residents in

1987
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,760
wheelchairs. So,

1988
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,000
>> um, okay. So, that's what that number

1989
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,320
is. Plus,

1990
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,880
I had somebody come and look at this

1991
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,400
side of the building with all the

1992
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,159
sighting problems, the leaking and all

1993
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:14,000
that.

1994
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,600
We're not going to be able to get away

1995
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,000
with uh some duct tape and bailing

1996
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,199
twine. Um the installation initially

1997
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:23,440
apparently wasn't done correctly

1998
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:25,040
completely and thus we're having the

1999
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,679
problems. It all has to come off.

2000
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:29,360
>> It was done with duct tape originally

2001
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,719
and wire it started with duct tape. No,

2002
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:34,320
I don't want I don't want to speak to it

2003
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,679
cuz I wasn't involved in that

2004
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:36,719
construction.

2005
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:39,840
>> It's just missing some items that

2006
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,880
>> there's some key things. So that's one

2007
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,960
of the reasons also that's a little bit

2008
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,280
>> what this is in barn raising basically.

2009
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:47,920
in

2010
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,000
>> well and this building is now getting to

2011
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,320
that age

2012
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,960
where things need to start being uh

2013
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,239
repaired.

2014
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:56,639
>> So,

2015
01:23:56,639 --> 01:23:59,040
>> or it's going to really if you don't do

2016
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,560
it, you're going to have some really big

2017
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,520
expenses.

2018
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,199
>> Exactly. Um

2019
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:07,280
>> can I just say while that wish list or

2020
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,600
not wish list while that list included

2021
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,280
things there may be other things that

2022
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,440
come up that will have to take place of

2023
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:16,000
some of those items. We've got it today.

2024
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,440
We've got it replace um

2025
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,040
some

2026
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,159
dampers.

2027
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:26,239
>> Not dampers, the the transformers

2028
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:28,400
controlling the dampers

2029
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,199
up in the HVAC system, though.

2030
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:33,760
>> I spoke with him and that 5,000 in our

2031
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,880
budget may cover those things.

2032
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,000
So, he's going to give me a list of what

2033
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,000
potential repairs may be needed for the

2034
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,400
HVAC system, and we'll see if these

2035
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,080
numbers come into alignment there.

2036
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,920
Um,

2037
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,320
okay. with building.

2038
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,600
So to to your question there, um Brian,

2039
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:05,760
when you get to billing or building, used to have um FICA uh wages

2040
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,440
and insurance in it.

2041
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:07,840
>> Yep.

2042
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,440
>> Yeah. I was wondering what we were

2043
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:10,000
looking at.

2044
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,760
>> 4190

2045
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,960
no longer holds those wages information.

2046
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,239
>> Okay. Um, public safety still mostly is

2047
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:21,120
our sheriff's services from the county.

2048
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,719
Um, fire, the fire wages, fire FICA, and

2049
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,600
fire retirement um are all for the

2050
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,480
volunteer force. None of that funds goes

2051
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,320
to TED.

2052
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,880
Um, fire fuel reduction. Um, this is

2053
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,719
predominantly

2054
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:41,600
our crew um that we talked about during

2055
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,080
the general plan review.

2056
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,199
>> Um, 4225

2057
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:48,800
EMS.

2058
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,639
These wages are for our EMTs.

2059
01:25:52,639 --> 01:25:55,760
Um, animal control. Nothing really is

2060
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,920
changing there. Please stop me if you

2061
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:58,719
have any other questions.

2062
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:00,239
>> I mean, they do raise it every year.

2063
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:02,400
>> Yeah, that I have to do stuff to report

2064
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,440
on tonight

2065
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:06,159
>> for that wage number.

2066
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:08,080
>> No, that's later in her report.

2067
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,719
>> Okay, perfect. If you if that number

2068
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:12,159
needs to go up or change.

2069
01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:14,159
>> Yeah, it will. It does change. Okay. Let

2070
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:14,560
me know.

2071
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,480
>> Oh, the Well, the budget is the budget

2072
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:22,800
for 2025 is is what the actual is

2073
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:27,110
>> the actual

2074
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,400
» So, it needs to be 5,000

2075
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,000
>> for the for the shelter. Yeah.

2076
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,600
>> Not the 22200.

2077
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:32,639
>> Nope. Not the 2200.

2078
01:26:32,639 --> 01:26:34,800
>> So, it needs to be 5,000.

2079
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,040
>> Okay. We'll make sure we can make that

2080
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:42,239
happen. Thank you. Okay. Roads. Uh so

2081
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,480
this is now 4410.

2082
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:46,880
Here you can see also we used to have a

2083
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,840
significant portion of wages, FICA and

2084
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,800
retirement as well. Now those are all

2085
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,360
zeros.

2086
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,760
I don't believe there's anything in here

2087
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:03,030
that's new.

2088
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,440
Um

2089
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:10,470
sanitation, snow plowing.

2090
01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:12,480
Um, nothing really there. You'll see

2091
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:14,480
also parks, recreation, and public

2092
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:17,760
property 4510.

2093
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,639
Uh, those are also where wages, FICA,

2094
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:26,550
and retirement used to be.

2095
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,239
Um, and then

2096
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:31,280
>> and that's where you move back 50%, 100%

2097
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,480
whatever to jump a fund out of that out

2098
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:38,470
of those funds.

2099
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:42,800
» Um, yes. Yep. Thank you. Okay. So now

2100
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,400
let me give you a new number for your

2101
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,040
papers here on the very last after the

2102
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,639
transfers.

2103
01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:51,840
So that total change in net position.

2104
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:52,880
>> What number?

2105
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,239
>> It needs to be 49,000.

2106
01:27:56,239 --> 01:27:58,239
>> What total net service that line?

2107
01:27:58,239 --> 01:28:00,960
>> No, that total change in net position

2108
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,280
right there.

2109
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,600
>> Total change in net position.

2110
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,440
>> There's nothing there right now.

2111
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:08,800
>> Uh flip the page one.

2112
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,760
It's right after 48.90.

2113
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,560
>> Yes. You'll see an ad 3.6 million.

2114
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:17,440
>> Oh, I see.

2115
01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:18,639
>> 153 351.

2116
01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:20,480
>> Okay. So, which one are we changing?

2117
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:24,390
>> 49,876

2118
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:25,920
» for which line?

2119
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:26,880
>> Right here.

2120
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,560
>> Give us the number.

2121
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,480
>> The one that's circled or the one that's

2122
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:32,480
underneath the total change position.

2123
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:34,800
Okay. So, we're crossing out the 153 and

2124
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:40,709
putting what? $49,876.

2125
01:28:40,719 --> 01:28:43,120
So that is currently what we are above

2126
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,239
our expenses right now between revenue

2127
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:50,149
and uh

2128
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:54,870
um revenue and expenses.

2129
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,360
So don't get too excited about that.

2130
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,840
We've got other things that we still are

2131
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,239
waiting on from um a few different

2132
01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:06,159
entities kind of like animal shelter.

2133
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:08,400
So, we'll wait and find out exactly what

2134
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:09,520
that

2135
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,679
>> position, but right now everything's

2136
01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:13,840
looking pretty good.

2137
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,719
Um enterprise fund, if you jump in here,

2138
01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:19,360
this is the water fund. There's really

2139
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,480
not much changing here. Um the only

2140
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:25,760
thing to uh Brian your question there

2141
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,679
for the enterprise fund when it comes to

2142
01:29:27,679 --> 01:29:30,000
wages

2143
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:30,320
um

2144
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,840
>> what number are we looking at?

2145
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,440
>> 5140

2146
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:35,040
>> uh 6606.

2147
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,239
>> Okay, we're moving forward.

2148
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:37,679
>> Yeah, we're jumping ahead. So that's why

2149
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:38,960
I want to make sure that

2150
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,360
>> No, not not 6606.

2151
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,360
Um

2152
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,560
no, you were right. 6110

2153
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,560
>> 6110. Thank you. So 6110, you're looking

2154
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:56,159
at 50% of Ted's wages, 0% of Jod's

2155
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:57,679
wages,

2156
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:00,560
um 50% of Lor's wages,

2157
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,560
>> 30% of Lor's. No,

2158
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:07,199
>> 50% of Lor's wages and 50% of Toby's

2159
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:07,920
wages.

2160
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,159
>> Oh, yeah. Cuz 20 is in sewer, right?

2161
01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:10,639
>> Yep.

2162
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:11,679
>> Okay. Sorry.

2163
01:30:11,679 --> 01:30:12,880
>> No, you're good.

2164
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:13,520
>> I just remember.

2165
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,840
>> So, should we put Lori back on the sewer

2166
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,679
page then? She is on%.

2167
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:19,040
>> She is.

2168
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,880
>> Yes, I know. But should we write it in

2169
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,639
cuz you you kind of just skipped over

2170
01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:23,360
that part. So,

2171
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:24,639
>> no. Sewer's next.

2172
01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:25,920
>> Oh.

2173
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,800
>> Um, so there are two new line items in

2174
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,639
the enterprise fund I want you guys to

2175
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:31,920
be aware of.

2176
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:32,320
>> Mhm.

2177
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,679
>> That is 6605. So, actually go back one

2178
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:37,840
page. We we jump past it to get to the

2179
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:38,400
wages.

2180
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,159
>> 6605. Oh,

2181
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:41,760
>> 6605

2182
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,920
and 6606.

2183
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,239
These are new line items for this year

2184
01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:49,360
and that is a $25,500

2185
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,400
payment and a $5,500

2186
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,280
payment. And those are payments due to

2187
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,719
maturity of leases for I believe that is

2188
01:30:58,719 --> 01:31:01,600
for the chief's truck and what's the

2189
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:02,480
second vehicle?

2190
01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:03,440
>> Is it the service

2191
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:04,000
>> service?

2192
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,400
>> And the service truck.

2193
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,199
Um, and so that's why those are sitting

2194
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:12,080
over here in the in the water fund

2195
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,400
simply because they operate in in both

2196
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,480
general fund capacities and water fund

2197
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:17,440
capacities.

2198
01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:21,520
>> Okay.

2199
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,000
>> I really like the way this is laid out.

2200
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,679
>> Well, we'll keep getting better.

2201
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:29,840
If you have any more opportunities for

2202
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,560
improvement, let me know.

2203
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,760
Um, if we jump now, unless you have any

2204
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:40,239
questions on the water fund,

2205
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:42,239
uh, there's not much really new or

2206
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:44,880
different there. Um, if you jump though

2207
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:49,440
over to the sewer fund, this is now

2208
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:53,510
going to be

2209
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,159
» and it's behind, but it's 5150. So, it

2210
01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:58,000
got out of order, but it's okay.

2211
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,040
>> Perfect.

2212
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,480
5150.

2213
01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:01,679
>> Mhm.

2214
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:03,360
>> The second to last page.

2215
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:03,920
>> Yeah.

2216
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,560
>> The last two pages.

2217
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,560
>> So 5150.

2218
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:09,280
>> Yeah.

2219
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:13,679
>> We're actually going to look at 5110

2220
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:17,280
1 0 6110. Sorry.

2221
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:17,679
>> Yeah.

2222
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:22,000
>> Um that is 0% of Ted's wages, 0% of

2223
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,760
Jod's wages, 20% of Lor's wages, and 0%

2224
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,560
of Hobe's wages. And the reason we're

2225
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,600
able to break out um each of these wages

2226
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,840
into these three different funds is this

2227
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,760
is where their time basically is

2228
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,600
allocated servicing these different

2229
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:38,560
funds.

2230
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:39,120
>> Mhm.

2231
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,040
>> Um and the reason nobody else is really

2232
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,440
in the sewer is there's not much money

2233
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:45,520
in that account. So we have to be

2234
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:53,199
somewhat careful. You can see the net number on sewer is 500 or

2235
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:55,199
holding that

2236
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:56,880
>> and Lori does the billing for this

2237
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:57,280
section.

2238
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:58,960
>> $378,

2239
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,880
>> right? Lori does the billing in that.

2240
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,239
>> She does all the billing. Yes.

2241
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:04,480
>> Okay.

2242
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:08,320
So, what I will do next for this budget

2243
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,600
is I'm going to create

2244
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,080
the documents that I talked to you about

2245
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,239
each of you. And each of you I'm going

2246
01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:19,040
to assign a different department and you

2247
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,520
will have the broken out. So the

2248
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:22,960
itemized pieces.

2249
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:23,920
>> Oh boy.

2250
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,440
>> And you'll have those once a month um in

2251
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:29,360
kind of like an envelope on your your

2252
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,800
desk and you'll be able to see where

2253
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,080
we're at in each area. And so you'll see

2254
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,080
when we have an expenditure, if it comes

2255
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,239
in less than the budgeted line item,

2256
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:40,880
you'll then see the the basic credit

2257
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,960
that we have that we can then reallocate

2258
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:44,880
to other items when we open budget,

2259
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:45,920
things like that.

2260
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,199
>> Okay,

2261
01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:48,560
>> cool. So we each get to be a little

2262
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,800
watchdog over a section.

2263
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:51,520
>> Exactly.

2264
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,560
>> Okay, cool.

2265
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,239
>> And then also we're going to work on

2266
01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:58,880
getting access for each of you in a read

2267
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,600
only capacity on the accounting system.

2268
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,760
So, if you're really interested in that,

2269
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,600
>> we can get you hooked up. If you're not,

2270
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:06,719
fine. But

2271
01:34:06,719 --> 01:34:08,320
>> I think it would be good to just have

2272
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:09,840
>> I need to get it and I haven't done it.

2273
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,920
>> I would like to have a little overview

2274
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,360
of it.

2275
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,080
>> Yeah, it'll be

2276
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,320
there is literally nothing to hide in

2277
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,000
any of these numbers. So, ask any

2278
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,880
questions that you want. Okay. Any

2279
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,080
questions on that uh budget?

2280
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,080
>> No, it looks a lot better. It's a lot

2281
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,400
more simplified, easier to understand

2282
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,960
>> and very clear.

2283
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,520
>> Well, it helped with what you guys did

2284
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,600
in the budget process thus far. So,

2285
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,440
thank you.

2286
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:42,560
>> Uh Brian, any questions there?

2287
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,159
>> No, sir.

2288
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:46,480
>> Okay. Then we're going to go with Ted

2289
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:48,480
Mickelson.

2290
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:52,000
Engine 192 update.

2291
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,840
Oh, sure.

2292
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,600
>> Did you one of the You had no questions

2293
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,920
on any of the other accounts with your

2294
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,510
proposal.

2295
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:02,480
» All right.

2296
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:03,520
>> Went over everything.

2297
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,600
>> Didn't hear any.

2298
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,280
>> Did you have any questions?

2299
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:08,800
>> Just want to make sure you covered it

2300
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,639
totally. If this is your first time

2301
01:35:10,639 --> 01:35:13,120
doing it, make sure I

2302
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,040
>> get it covered completely.

2303
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,040
>> I've been sleeping in the budget for now

2304
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,750
who knows how long. So,

2305
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:26,400
Uh, engine 192. So, engine 192 was sold.

2306
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,760
>> Uh, thanks to Brian's efforts in all his

2307
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,199
willing and dealing, we got a really

2308
01:35:31,199 --> 01:35:33,760
good price for it. Uh, better, I think,

2309
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,760
than what we had thought we might be

2310
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,800
able to. And it left the city yesterday.

2311
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,199
Uh, you guys probably don't know, you

2312
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:43,199
may know Dora was the fire chief that

2313
01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:45,760
actually bought that engine. So he got

2314
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,520
to drive it and load it and say goodbye

2315
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,199
and gave it a kiss and a hug and

2316
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:51,120
everything and

2317
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:55,040
um so agent 192 left the city yesterday.

2318
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,040
Uh we have been paid for the truck so

2319
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,679
that money now will be set aside for

2320
01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:01,199
upgraded ambulance.

2321
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:01,679
>> Okay.

2322
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:02,960
>> Who who bought it? Just out of

2323
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:03,600
curiosity.

2324
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,679
>> It's a uh Brian, maybe you can better

2325
01:36:05,679 --> 01:36:08,960
answer that. Oh, there you go.

2326
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,320
>> Oh, there we go.

2327
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:13,760
>> That's why we should put that one in the

2328
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,080
newsletter. That needs to go. Send send

2329
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,679
that to me, Brian.

2330
01:36:17,679 --> 01:36:19,760
>> I I can do that. Well, Doro can send it

2331
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,480
to you. He's want to send it to me.

2332
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:25,199
Okay. So, um what the truck what what we

2333
01:36:25,199 --> 01:36:27,520
ended up doing is I I went to multiple

2334
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,239
avenues and and worked on pricing and

2335
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:37,199
things like that. Um there were some companies that um will list it for

2336
01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:39,120
you, kind of like an auto trader type of

2337
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,679
thing, but for fire trucks um they take

2338
01:36:41,679 --> 01:36:46,080
a 10% pop. Um, and I reached out to one

2339
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,320
company is called Command Apparatus out

2340
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,400
of Pennsylvania. And what they do is

2341
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,600
they buy good fire trucks. They take

2342
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,760
them, go through them completely, get

2343
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:00,239
them re- ready for first line um,

2344
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:02,719
apparatus. So Ted can explain that a

2345
01:37:02,719 --> 01:37:05,119
first-line apparatus has to be certified

2346
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:09,040
in the last 10 or 15 years and and

2347
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,400
things like that. And it helps keep our

2348
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,480
your ISO ratings down. Well, they get

2349
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,119
them reertified for that and then they

2350
01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:17,280
resell them to to departments who are

2351
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,600
looking for um used rather than new, but

2352
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,480
new to them. Um and so that's it's going

2353
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:26,560
to go to another department that can use

2354
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,400
a four-wheel drive engine. Um and it's a

2355
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,960
really good engine. So we we we got a

2356
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,760
good deal out of it. Um and they took

2357
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,440
care of everything. They sent the check.

2358
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:40,639
We've got it deposited

2359
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:43,920
and as you can see here, Dorl was was

2360
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,360
able to to send it off with a kiss. Um

2361
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,040
he he had a has he is probably the most

2362
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:52,880
um

2363
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,280
uh

2364
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,119
attachment to that truck. I mean, it is

2365
01:37:57,119 --> 01:38:00,239
the truck that most of us learned on um

2366
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:02,159
which does mean a lot to us, but but

2367
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:03,760
Dorl did drive it back from Florida.

2368
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,600
Spent a lot of time in that truck. So,

2369
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,400
we're I was glad that uh we thought

2370
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,639
about having him take it down to to load

2371
01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:12,480
it up. So, that was a good it was a good

2372
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:14,159
thing for us.

2373
01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:16,800
>> Thanks for that, Brian. I left a note

2374
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,639
under the passenger seat.

2375
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:21,520
>> Did you?

2376
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:25,280
>> Pleading with them to text me the final

2377
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,280
entity where it ends up because I'd like

2378
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,840
to know where it is. It's on the road to

2379
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,440
Pennsylvania right now where this

2380
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:33,840
company is, but it could end up anywhere

2381
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,280
in the US.

2382
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:35,600
>> Cool.

2383
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,119
>> And then I'll go get it and bring it

2384
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:40,470
back.

2385
01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:44,229
» You are attached.

2386
01:38:44,239 --> 01:38:46,320
» Doro is the inevitable buyer of this

2387
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,400
fire truck.

2388
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,080
>> We could have sold it. You know, we

2389
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:50,480
could have

2390
01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:51,760
>> Do you directly?

2391
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:56,709
>> I'd had a bigger garage. Yeah.

2392
01:38:56,719 --> 01:39:01,350
» You're still sharing, Brian.

2393
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,199
» Oh, he's getting another.

2394
01:39:03,199 --> 01:39:05,600
>> Oh, he has a note.

2395
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:06,320
>> That's beautiful.

2396
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,040
>> That's it.

2397
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,840
>> Gee.

2398
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:12,880
>> Oh, that's great.

2399
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:20,870
>> I love that.

2400
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,960
» Careful sending Brian stuff. You should

2401
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:24,719
have put You should have put an Apple

2402
01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:26,239
Air Tag in there. I thought it might my

2403
01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:26,639
Jeep was

2404
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:27,760
>> Oh, that would have been a good idea.

2405
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,760
>> Then you could have followed it, seen

2406
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,520
where it went.

2407
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,440
>> I trust the new chief will tell me.

2408
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:37,600
>> Oh, it's beautiful. Thank you.

2409
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,760
>> There were teardrops on that note, so I

2410
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:45,590
hope that

2411
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,840
» anything else there.

2412
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,600
>> Dan Rhoden should have been with me

2413
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,239
because he rode. Yeah. It was the very

2414
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:53,920
first Santa on a firet truck was that

2415
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:54,320
year.

2416
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:55,040
>> Yeah.

2417
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:55,679
>> We got the news.

2418
01:39:55,679 --> 01:39:57,199
>> First time the truck came to the city,

2419
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:58,960
he rode up the hill of Santa.

2420
01:39:58,960 --> 01:39:59,520
>> Yeah.

2421
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:00,320
>> On the top.

2422
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:00,880
>> Yeah.

2423
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,480
>> Sweet.

2424
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:04,639
>> That was sweet.

2425
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:06,320
How beautiful. Anybody else have

2426
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:10,400
anything else for the fire truck 192?

2427
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,000
>> Oh, I just think that we should have a

2428
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,360
little article about it with pictures.

2429
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,000
>> I agree.

2430
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,880
>> Okay, then we'll go with number five.

2431
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,280
city grant updates. Um we'll start with

2432
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:24,639
you, Chief.

2433
01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:28,960
>> Uh so the FEMA grant for our assistant

2434
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,560
firefighter

2435
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,320
uh homeland security um got funded.

2436
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,320
Therefore, FEMA got funded and I got an

2437
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:37,840
email over the weekend saying we should

2438
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,880
get our grant check for the assistant

2439
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,880
firefighter grant here within the week.

2440
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,560
So we hope to have that one soon

2441
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:45,920
finally. Okay.

2442
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,880
>> Um so we got funding for that one. Uh,

2443
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,800
we haven't heard from Burgess Owns and

2444
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,239
probably won't for a while on our Wline

2445
01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:54,800
grant. And then the other one we have is

2446
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,480
the Utah Outdoor Recreation Grant for

2447
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:58,000
the pickle pickle ball court. I'll read

2448
01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:59,920
you an email I got just late this

2449
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:03,360
afternoon, hot off the press. The Utah

2450
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:04,719
Division of Outdoor Recreation is

2451
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:05,840
pleased to inform you that your

2452
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,199
organization Woodland Hills has been

2453
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:10,400
approved to receive a fiscal year 2026

2454
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,800
community parks and recreation grant.

2455
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:14,320
>> What?

2456
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,639
>> Are you serious?

2457
01:41:16,639 --> 01:41:18,000
>> That's awesome. So,

2458
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,480
>> that's incredible, guys.

2459
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:23,600
>> Sherry Burger, did you hear that?

2460
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:24,719
>> Yeah. Do you have anything to say,

2461
01:41:24,719 --> 01:41:26,560
Sherry? I'll let you talk for this one.

2462
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,950
You did so much work on it.

2463
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:31,840
» Just a minute.

2464
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,840
>> She's checked out.

2465
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:34,880
>> She has to unmute her.

2466
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,360
>> Does it Does it give a a value already

2467
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,639
or are they going to

2468
01:41:38,639 --> 01:41:43,040
>> Yeah, they our full request of 83,17750.

2469
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:49,109
>> Terry probably passed out.

2470
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:50,719
That's amazing.

2471
01:41:50,719 --> 01:41:52,960
>> So that when will we be able to start

2472
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,679
that then? This this summer.

2473
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:58,239
>> We have 28 months to use it. We can't

2474
01:41:58,239 --> 01:41:59,840
start until we get our contract signed.

2475
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,360
They'll be sending us a contract within

2476
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,119
the next two weeks to sign. And once we

2477
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:04,480
sign it and the state signs it, then we

2478
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:06,400
start using the funds.

2479
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,960
>> And the match will be in kind, right?

2480
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:09,679
>> Um

2481
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:10,880
>> or part of it, most

2482
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,719
>> part of it can be inind. And then part

2483
01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:15,040
of it we have some uh balance of funds

2484
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,480
from our snow plow stuff like that we're

2485
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:18,159
gonna put torches too.

2486
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:18,880
>> Yay.

2487
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,080
>> But um

2488
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,360
>> since we didn't plow a lot

2489
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,560
>> since we didn't plow we had a lot of uh

2490
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:25,920
plow money left over that we can put

2491
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,320
some match towards it as well. So

2492
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,760
>> awesome. So we're so it's going to

2493
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:30,159
happen.

2494
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:31,920
>> It sounds like it's going to happen.

2495
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,920
>> Sounds like another article.

2496
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,600
>> I know. And and and requesting the the

2497
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,080
volunteer hours.

2498
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,040
Yeah. So anyway, uh that's an update on

2499
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,760
the grants.

2500
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,430
>> That's amazing.

2501
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:49,920
» Okay,

2502
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,280
>> that

2503
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:52,560
>> now you just got to get the water one.

2504
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,000
And look at you.

2505
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,560
>> Yeah, that one made me a little wild.

2506
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,320
We've also got a mag one outstanding.

2507
01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:59,920
That one's a little less hopeful for the

2508
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:00,719
trail.

2509
01:43:00,719 --> 01:43:01,280
>> Yeah,

2510
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:05,360
>> we're about 19th on a list of 30, so it

2511
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,040
just depends on how far the money we

2512
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:08,880
they ranked us. Uh well, we did a

2513
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,320
ranking and our project ranked 19th out

2514
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,440
of 30. Uh this this tends to always go

2515
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:17,199
more towards northern Utah County

2516
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:18,560
communities because they're experienced

2517
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:22,480
the higher growth. Um however, it just

2518
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:23,920
now depends on how far the money goes.

2519
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,440
So they just start with number one and

2520
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:27,040
they just start allocating the money

2521
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,320
till they run out and we should know by

2522
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,119
1 of June where that ended up.

2523
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:35,119
>> Awesome.

2524
01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:38,400
Okay. Well, I mean, get that man a

2525
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,360
helicopter now.

2526
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,669
>> No, that's not what we just

2527
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:49,679
» that was not in the budget. Sorry.

2528
01:43:49,679 --> 01:43:51,840
>> Okay. Departmental updates. Um,

2529
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,360
community development, public works,

2530
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,400
fire department. Uh, I I don't have a

2531
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,159
lot on the community development, public

2532
01:43:58,159 --> 01:44:00,880
works side. Um, just an FYI, we are

2533
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,000
participating. and I was in a meeting

2534
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,639
today for about 3 hours

2535
01:44:04,639 --> 01:44:07,280
um with all of South Utah County

2536
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:08,960
municipalities in Central Utah Water

2537
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:12,560
Conservancy District. Um we are doing as

2538
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:16,000
a combined group a uh South Utah Valley

2539
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,280
water planning study and it's really

2540
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,600
looking at all of South Utah County out

2541
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,840
to the year 2100

2542
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,440
and what that might look like for water

2543
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,840
planning. Um so we will we're

2544
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,040
participating in that study. It's

2545
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,600
anticipated anticipated to take about a

2546
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,440
year and a half to do this study. So

2547
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,920
pretty comprehensive. Uh the hope is at

2548
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,080
the end of it when we come out of it, we

2549
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:41,520
actually have action items

2550
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,840
uh for our community out of this list

2551
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,159
that will help us plan for our water

2552
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:51,360
future. So uh working on that. Um

2553
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:52,639
I don't know they have a whole lot of

2554
01:44:52,639 --> 01:44:55,840
other updates. We're still uh not

2555
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:57,440
certain when the paving project will

2556
01:44:57,440 --> 01:44:59,360
start. Uh we kind of put it in their

2557
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,840
court. It'll probably be July when we'll

2558
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,760
start redoing our that phase three of

2559
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,239
the pavement project.

2560
01:45:06,239 --> 01:45:08,239
Um that's all in the community

2561
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:10,800
development side. And then the fire side

2562
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:12,080
uh we did meet with I don't I don't know

2563
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,600
if you guys are aware, we've been

2564
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,440
talking with the state about turning one

2565
01:45:15,440 --> 01:45:16,880
of our old still water tanks that we

2566
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,280
haven't used for years into a dip tank.

2567
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,679
Uh we there is a helell attack a fire

2568
01:45:21,679 --> 01:45:23,679
hellet attack crew the state has

2569
01:45:23,679 --> 01:45:26,159
stationed in Spanish fork airport. And

2570
01:45:26,159 --> 01:45:28,080
so we met with the attack crew. We met

2571
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,920
with the state fire warden went up there

2572
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:31,280
and looked at it and they were just

2573
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,920
loving the idea. Uh it is also one of

2574
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,400
our um mitigation strategies we've had

2575
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:40,880
on a list for a long time with our CWPP

2576
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,960
uh our community wildfire preparedness

2577
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,280
plan. So we started looking at one of

2578
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,679
the old steel tanks up there uh and

2579
01:45:47,679 --> 01:45:49,520
rather than tear it out, maybe put it to

2580
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,920
use as a dip tank. Uh everyone loved it.

2581
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:53,840
So I had a uh we had met with an

2582
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,760
engineer up there last week. They're

2583
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:56,719
going to put us together a little

2584
01:45:56,719 --> 01:45:59,280
proposal just to see what it might take

2585
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,760
and if it is actually something that is

2586
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,440
viable. It's in good enough condition to

2587
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:04,239
do that. So,

2588
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:05,360
>> how does that work? Have like a

2589
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,679
retractable top component or

2590
01:46:07,679 --> 01:46:10,880
>> No, really. We would just fill it in the

2591
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,119
uh it would have an open top, not

2592
01:46:13,119 --> 01:46:15,360
closed, and we would fill it in the

2593
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,920
spring and just let the water sit in for

2594
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,480
the summer and then late fall drain it

2595
01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:20,960
before.

2596
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,119
>> But what about leaves and things and

2597
01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:25,920
debris that get in it? That's right.

2598
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,520
>> They're used to dipping out of legs. So,

2599
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:28,960
some great

2600
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:30,480
>> just that it fills with sediment. It's

2601
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:32,239
harder for us to clean up.

2602
01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:34,080
>> So, I would suggest that you put it I

2603
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,000
have one of these on on some propert.

2604
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,760
>> They don't want a top on it at all.

2605
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,920
>> Not even a tarp just to keep

2606
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:40,960
>> because if they need to get into it,

2607
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,560
they're going to have to do it fast. And if the area is compromised, we won't

2608
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,400
be getting up there with their

2609
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,360
>> So, they don't want to top on it. Um

2610
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,280
>> they don't mind dipping in. I mean, they

2611
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,440
can't dip. So, what we would look at is

2612
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:55,040
cutting half the tank off and using the

2613
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,400
bottom half.

2614
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,639
>> Um, and they can only dip even about

2615
01:46:58,639 --> 01:46:59,920
half of that half. So,

2616
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:00,880
>> okay. So,

2617
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,960
>> it's not like what we're saying is we're

2618
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,400
getting a community pool at the same

2619
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,560
time.

2620
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,320
>> And as it drains out, when it drains out

2621
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,679
every year, every every fall, um you're

2622
01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:15,199
going to you're going to

2623
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:17,040
>> force a lot of that material out of it.

2624
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,080
It's a very large outpour. Um, and so

2625
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,760
it's that turbulence is going to

2626
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,440
actually move a lot of that a lot of

2627
01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:24,000
that

2628
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:29,199
>> just dump out wherever you slowly go. We

2629
01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:30,320
have some area down in there it can

2630
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:30,880
catch.

2631
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:31,280
>> Okay.

2632
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,040
>> Uh without going down the hill to

2633
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,199
residents. Yeah. It' be done over slowly

2634
01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:35,920
over time.

2635
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:36,719
>> Okay.

2636
01:47:36,719 --> 01:47:38,159
>> Just crack it. Yeah,

2637
01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:39,600
>> this the state's talking about

2638
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,280
participating in this project with us

2639
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,000
and then also uh count it towards some

2640
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,199
of our um costs that we have to put

2641
01:47:47,199 --> 01:47:49,760
towards um cooperative agreement we have

2642
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,639
with the state um that we have to match

2643
01:47:52,639 --> 01:47:55,199
do we have to have some inind uh dollars

2644
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:56,800
every year and we usually do that with

2645
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,600
chipping or citizen time or whatever our

2646
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,440
wildland crew this would also count

2647
01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:02,719
could count towards that they would give

2648
01:48:02,719 --> 01:48:04,880
us credit for that plus they would help

2649
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,719
participate in the cost if it is used

2650
01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:07,920
you know they would pay for the water

2651
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,159
and that kind of stuff. So, it it's

2652
01:48:10,159 --> 01:48:12,080
really not I think it's a value to our

2653
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,560
community that's a a very low if at any

2654
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:15,440
cost at all.

2655
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:16,400
>> Okay.

2656
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:17,679
>> A little bit of time to fill it and

2657
01:48:17,679 --> 01:48:18,400
empty it.

2658
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,960
>> Yeah. How many gallons? Like do you

2659
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:22,960
anticipate half of a half of a tank up

2660
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:23,520
there?

2661
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,600
>> So, the tank is a 200,000 gallon tank.

2662
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,119
So, if we cut it in half and fill it to

2663
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:28,880
be,000 gallons,

2664
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:30,239
>> but you're going to cut it but it's you

2665
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:31,440
cut it in half. You don't fill it all

2666
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:32,960
the way. You fill half of the half.

2667
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,280
>> No, we would fill it all. fill that half

2668
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:39,040
so they have a little room to dip and we do have a sediment way for

2669
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,480
sediments to sell out a little bit stuff

2670
01:48:40,480 --> 01:48:41,520
like that

2671
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,000
>> and but but we don't know yet. That's

2672
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:44,880
kind of what we're looking at with the

2673
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,040
engineers is doesn't can we cut it off

2674
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:48,239
because you lose some of that structural

2675
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:50,320
integrity roof off. So

2676
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,560
>> can we cut it off? If we can what level

2677
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,920
should we cut it off?

2678
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,440
>> Um would it require some additional

2679
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:57,280
reinforcing around it somehow if we do

2680
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,400
that? And is the coatings in good enough

2681
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,719
shape that it's viable without rusty,

2682
01:49:02,719 --> 01:49:04,159
you know, without and the inside of it

2683
01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:05,360
actually we crawled in it. It looked

2684
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,679
really good shape inside. So,

2685
01:49:07,679 --> 01:49:08,159
>> okay.

2686
01:49:08,159 --> 01:49:10,320
>> And you said that um then you would

2687
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:14,400
negotiate um some sort of a tra tradeoff

2688
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,199
in in funding or they would take off

2689
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:19,440
some of the assessment that is put on

2690
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,040
our city. Is that what you said?

2691
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:22,480
>> It go towards some of our match that

2692
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,040
we're required to meet each year. Mhm.

2693
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:26,960
>> So, if you know, we have an agreement

2694
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,080
with the state. It's called a

2695
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,239
cooperating wildfire uh systems

2696
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:31,280
agreement.

2697
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,239
>> And what that means is that every year

2698
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:38,080
our city matches so many dollars um

2699
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,440
towards mitigation work.

2700
01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:42,159
>> That's why we ask residents to tell us

2701
01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:44,880
their clear Yeah. Their hours go towards

2702
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,960
that. Our wild cruise time goes towards

2703
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,080
it. Stuff like that. um this now would

2704
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:51,679
be one of those that will go towards it

2705
01:49:51,679 --> 01:49:55,520
in turn for us doing this mitigation and meeting these match requirements. If

2706
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,040
we have a fire in our community and the

2707
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:58,320
state has to come fight that fire, they

2708
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,239
won't charge us for it. So that's what

2709
01:50:00,239 --> 01:50:01,840
that agreement does.

2710
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:05,830
>> That's great.

2711
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,119
» Wonderful.

2712
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:08,000
>> So anything else?

2713
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,600
>> No, that's all I got.

2714
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:10,560
>> You sure?

2715
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,400
>> Yeah. Yeah.

2716
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,239
>> I think we've had we

2717
01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:15,760
>> wonderful. We've had some good seat time

2718
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:17,280
tonight.

2719
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:18,480
I love it.

2720
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:19,840
>> Planning Commission, code enforcement.

2721
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:29,430
Wayne,

2722
01:50:29,440 --> 01:50:31,199
» uh just bring the council up to date a

2723
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:34,320
little bit on some things that uh the

2724
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,000
city

2725
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:41,280
um is working on. Um we're looking to

2726
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,719
um for lack of another term, annex some

2727
01:50:44,719 --> 01:50:48,239
property. uh through Summit Creek that

2728
01:50:48,239 --> 01:50:52,159
uh is part of Elkridge right now. And uh

2729
01:50:52,159 --> 01:50:55,280
we kind of got off on the wrong foot uh

2730
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:57,040
process-wise

2731
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,040
and we're doing it the way we thought we

2732
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,400
were supposed to and uh we Jody ran it

2733
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,960
by our attorney and they said, "No,

2734
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:08,239
you're doing it all wrong." And uh the

2735
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:10,719
process had started with uh with

2736
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:14,320
Elkridge and the county as they were

2737
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:18,000
fine. And so had we continued down that

2738
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,800
path it would have been void and all of

2739
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:24,960
that would have been for not. So, um,

2740
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,760
what we do with an adjoining city that

2741
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,320
has

2742
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,560
property that is potentially to be

2743
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,840
brought into our city, for example, is a

2744
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,840
boundary adjustment.

2745
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,000
Um, you still have to go through the

2746
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,719
public hearings and things like that.

2747
01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:47,440
So, we're we're going down that road and

2748
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:51,040
we'll see where that that gets us. both

2749
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,000
cities generally have to agree to uh do

2750
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,360
it and um so

2751
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:56,560
>> county surveyor

2752
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:57,040
>> pardon

2753
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,760
>> and the county surveyor also I think

2754
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:00,880
>> um

2755
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:04,400
>> that's boundary adjustments they do

2756
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,119
annexations we'll still have to file it

2757
01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:08,159
with them

2758
01:52:08,159 --> 01:52:10,080
>> but this is between the two cities and

2759
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:14,790
we have to do a municipal

2760
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:16,400
» boundary adjustment

2761
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:17,679
>> adjustment on management

2762
01:52:17,679 --> 01:52:20,080
>> because I know that that well never mind

2763
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:21,840
So anyway, we're working uh we're

2764
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,560
working on that. Uh we'll have a public

2765
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:29,760
hearing uh next month on the um general

2766
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:31,280
plan

2767
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,400
and uh the changes that you're

2768
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,239
recommending tonight and kind of

2769
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:40,080
finalizing that and put it out for on a

2770
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:45,679
for public hearing. And then we'll uh

2771
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:47,199
planning commission will take a vote on

2772
01:52:47,199 --> 01:52:49,760
it. then it'll come to the council for a

2773
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:53,760
vote and once that's completed and these

2774
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,400
by the way don't may not be consensus

2775
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,880
votes. So it's just like everything else

2776
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,159
that that we take votes on majority

2777
01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:05,679
rules. So um there may be parts of it

2778
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:08,639
that individuals might not agree with

2779
01:53:08,639 --> 01:53:12,320
and that's fine uh whether it's planning

2780
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,199
commission or council but anyway that's

2781
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:17,440
the that's what we're looking to do. uh

2782
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:20,239
process-wise with that.

2783
01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:24,000
Um we're also going through a process of

2784
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,960
vacating part of the bottom part of

2785
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:31,520
Eagle Nest Drive uh for uh Summer Creek.

2786
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,199
This goes back to the development

2787
01:53:33,199 --> 01:53:35,280
agreement that we made with them a

2788
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,480
number of years ago and uh plans to do

2789
01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:42,400
that and they will uh include that then

2790
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:46,639
as a part of it basically where it ends

2791
01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:48,320
the culdeac that will be part of their

2792
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,199
private road that they uh take through

2793
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:54,000
their development at this phase of what

2794
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,880
they're working on. So, we've discussed

2795
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,040
that with our attorneys and are

2796
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,159
confident in the process that uh is to

2797
01:54:02,159 --> 01:54:05,840
do that, have a public hearing, it'll um

2798
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,639
it'll come before you as well. Uh but

2799
01:54:08,639 --> 01:54:10,639
we've agreed to do that in the in the

2800
01:54:10,639 --> 01:54:13,840
development agreement. So, those are

2801
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,800
Jod's taken a bulk of the work on that

2802
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,440
and working through the processes and

2803
01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:23,440
putting it together. So, uh just uh it's

2804
01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:25,199
a time thing. Public hearings are

2805
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:27,679
required. So, that takes time to publish

2806
01:54:27,679 --> 01:54:31,840
those and um and to do them. So, any

2807
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,000
questions on

2808
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:35,840
any of that?

2809
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:40,639
Very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh Aaron

2810
01:54:40,639 --> 01:54:42,800
told me he doesn't have anything for us.

2811
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,239
>> Something for us on that

2812
01:54:46,239 --> 01:54:49,440
>> maybe. Okay. What do you got? just that

2813
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,119
um he and I had a meeting with the

2814
01:54:51,119 --> 01:54:52,719
American Red Cross. Did he tell you

2815
01:54:52,719 --> 01:54:53,679
about that?

2816
01:54:53,679 --> 01:54:56,239
>> He did. And we're going to

2817
01:54:56,239 --> 01:54:57,920
>> Yeah, Ted and I are going to talk about

2818
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,000
that and figure out what that might look

2819
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,679
like going forward. So,

2820
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:02,560
>> okay.

2821
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,960
>> We're not probably ready to

2822
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:06,800
>> Are we still have the fire drill on the

2823
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,119
day that day or can we at least say

2824
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:09,679
that?

2825
01:55:09,679 --> 01:55:13,679
>> Yep. We are looking to uh have a

2826
01:55:13,679 --> 01:55:16,159
citywide fire drill. Um we're not

2827
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:18,320
exactly sure exactly what the scope will

2828
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,800
look like on that. Um I'm have actually

2829
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,440
working with uh Janet and Dan to work on

2830
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,920
the communication portion

2831
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,159
um of how we let the residents know on

2832
01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:31,360
June 20th. Thank you. So

2833
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:32,800
please everybody look for more

2834
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,360
information on that front. Thank you

2835
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:36,560
Carrie.

2836
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,280
>> Uh 911 dispatch.

2837
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,119
>> All right.

2838
01:55:41,119 --> 01:55:43,040
>> So mayor I know you're jealous that I

2839
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,560
get to do this. So,

2840
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,080
>> you have three minutes.

2841
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,560
>> Oh, I'll hurry.

2842
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:49,520
>> Okay. Um,

2843
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:50,320
>> take the time.

2844
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,400
>> We're in the middle of I've got some

2845
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,639
good stuff tonight. Uh, they're we're in

2846
01:55:54,639 --> 01:55:56,880
the middle of budgeting over there, too.

2847
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,760
And they're going to give 5% raises to

2848
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:01,360
dispatchers.

2849
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:04,080
Uh, as an example, American Fork is

2850
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,199
doing 6% raises for all their employees.

2851
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:13,920
Uh so um but the costs of of dispatching

2852
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,960
is they're they're very competitive.

2853
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,520
There's uh other dispatch centers local

2854
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:23,280
here. Mapleton Springville's got one,

2855
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,880
Provo's got one, Lehi or I mean Lynen

2856
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,520
and Oram's got one. So anyway, it's

2857
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,480
competitive and and these dispatchers go

2858
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:36,480
to where they get best and uh we get 75%

2859
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,360
more workload at our dispatch than pro

2860
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:42,480
does. So uh we vote on the budget this

2861
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,800
Thursday and I'll have details on the on

2862
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:46,800
the final numbers, but it doesn't look

2863
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:48,960
like our costs are going to go up very

2864
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,800
much.

2865
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,760
And the good news is is our calls for

2866
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,719
the last two years have gone down. So,

2867
01:56:56,719 --> 01:57:00,400
uh, I was pleased to see that. So, um,

2868
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:01,920
>> is there a reason?

2869
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:03,440
>> Well, it's just good. You know, we've

2870
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,520
got behaved citizens and this is

2871
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,119
specific to Woodland Hills.

2872
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:08,560
>> Oh, for just for Woodland Hills.

2873
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,960
>> All of dispatch calls, just not just

2874
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,440
911s, but any calls to dispatch has gone

2875
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,480
down actually about hundred since last

2876
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:20,320
year. So, um,

2877
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:22,560
so

2878
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:26,800
I'd like to share with you a an incident

2879
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,760
with our neighbor over in PAC.

2880
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,719
They had a very difficult call and it g

2881
01:57:32,719 --> 01:57:35,440
it'll give you a a feeling for what our

2882
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:38,000
dispatchers do.

2883
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:41,440
This was a letter dispatch received from

2884
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:45,119
the uh PAC Police Department.

2885
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:47,440
I'd like to share it. Um, I'm writing

2886
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,440
this letter. This is from the police

2887
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:52,960
department, the Corporal White from the

2888
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,599
Pac City Police Department. I'm writing

2889
01:57:55,599 --> 01:57:57,360
this letter to express my appreciation

2890
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,520
for the level of professionalism and

2891
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,639
empathy shown by dispatcher Heather Burr

2892
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:06,800
on March 25th, 2026 for a suicidal male

2893
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:11,280
calling into dispatch on Salem case.

2894
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,560
PAC officers responded to assist due to

2895
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,800
the vague information. the caller was

2896
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,360
providing. And upon conducting the

2897
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,239
investigation, the patient disclosed

2898
01:58:22,239 --> 01:58:24,560
that they had intended to arrest the

2899
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,639
officers upon their arrival in an

2900
01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:28,960
attempt to force the officers to commit

2901
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,360
suicide by cop.

2902
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,080
The patient advised that while speaking

2903
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,360
with dispatch on the phone, the male had

2904
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,840
been convinced to change his mind from

2905
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,320
the empathetic tone

2906
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,880
and communication provided by dispatcher

2907
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:48,000
Burr. Heather Burr was in the in the

2908
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,800
room at the meeting took to honor her.

2909
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,119
The patient

2910
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:56,000
instead opted to seek needed help and

2911
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,159
was compliant with the officers while on

2912
01:58:58,159 --> 01:58:59,679
scene.

2913
01:58:59,679 --> 01:59:00,560
Oh,

2914
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,199
>> now imagine how the police felt about

2915
01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:06,000
that. They get to go home having a

2916
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:07,679
better day because of the way she

2917
01:59:07,679 --> 01:59:10,800
helped. And so this letter ends, this is

2918
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,360
a statement to the exemplary performance

2919
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:14,960
exhibited

2920
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:18,320
by Central Utah Dispatch

2921
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,800
and specifically dispatcher Burr for

2922
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,760
this incident. We officers appreciate

2923
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,840
the dedication you have shown to the

2924
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,400
citizens of Utah County and the

2925
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,639
assistance provided to us. Keep up the

2926
01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:34,080
good work and thank you. Um

2927
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,920
kind of gives an illustration of the

2928
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:39,199
type of work these dispatchers do and

2929
01:59:39,199 --> 01:59:40,880
not everyone's cut out to be a

2930
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,800
dispatcher. So when we find a good one,

2931
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:45,280
um

2932
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:46,400
>> retention.

2933
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:49,679
>> Yeah. Yeah. We want to keep them. And um

2934
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:51,520
so and they've got a lot of good ones

2935
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,360
down there. I've met many of them. We've

2936
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:57,920
toured the facility several times and we should we should take the council

2937
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:00,000
down there and tour that place. You'll

2938
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,199
get a real impressive feeling of of of

2939
02:00:03,199 --> 02:00:06,639
where your 911 calls go to. So I would

2940
02:00:06,639 --> 02:00:09,119
encourage us to plan that sometime. I'd

2941
02:00:09,119 --> 02:00:10,639
be glad to help us out.

2942
02:00:10,639 --> 02:00:12,719
>> I love your reports, Darl.

2943
02:00:12,719 --> 02:00:13,360
>> Thank you.

2944
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,440
>> And please express our gratitude.

2945
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:15,920
>> Yeah.

2946
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,679
>> To them for the good work they are

2947
02:00:17,679 --> 02:00:22,239
doing. Um, how have you have any of you

2948
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:24,639
been able to tour 911?

2949
02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:27,760
>> I have. I have several times. I haven't.

2950
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:28,719
>> You haven't, Janet?

2951
02:00:28,719 --> 02:00:30,159
>> Oh, you have you haven't.

2952
02:00:30,159 --> 02:00:32,320
>> Brian, have you been to dispatch?

2953
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,320
>> Many times.

2954
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:38,159
>> Okay. Um, my I don't know about Steve,

2955
02:00:38,159 --> 02:00:40,000
but if you would be willing to set that

2956
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:40,719
up, Dor.

2957
02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:42,960
>> Okay. I think that would be a valuable

2958
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:44,719
asset, especially if we could coordinate

2959
02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:46,960
it with maybe something with Sergeant

2960
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,800
Dudson and coordinating there.

2961
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:49,199
>> Okay.

2962
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:50,800
>> Maybe go tour the jail or something

2963
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,719
along those lines while we're out there.

2964
02:00:52,719 --> 02:00:56,950
Thank you.

2965
02:00:56,960 --> 02:01:01,040
» Okay, so mayor and city council reports.

2966
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:04,960
Um, this should be fun. a reminder that

2967
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:06,639
we will, you know, let's try and keep

2968
02:01:06,639 --> 02:01:07,520
those

2969
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,400
>> five minutes, or less so that we can

2970
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:11,440
though, we're actually doing pretty

2971
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:16,000
good, but let's still we're making good progress here. Let's

2972
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:19,040
see if I can keep my own rule here. Um,

2973
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,360
for MAG and COG, we've had a number of

2974
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,599
different meetings. As Ted highlighted,

2975
02:01:23,599 --> 02:01:25,679
a lot of our meetings lately have been

2976
02:01:25,679 --> 02:01:28,800
focused on uh the distribution of MAG

2977
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,840
potential grants. Um, as Ted said, we

2978
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:35,119
are 19th out of 30. um for the mag trail

2979
02:01:35,119 --> 02:01:37,520
that we are looking to to have up within

2980
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:41,040
he'll drive. Um

2981
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,840
I maybe am a little overly optimistic on

2982
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:46,880
that more so than Ted. Um but so

2983
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:48,719
hopefully I'm win and not you.

2984
02:01:48,719 --> 02:01:50,639
>> Hey, we're on a streak.

2985
02:01:50,639 --> 02:01:53,920
>> I I appreciate that. Um I think we've

2986
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:55,360
got

2987
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:57,119
>> Well, it all comes down. They've said

2988
02:01:57,119 --> 02:02:00,880
that they might split the projects into

2989
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:03,440
street projects and trail projects which

2990
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,320
may help us quite a bit because I think

2991
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:07,760
>> we're fifth on the trail. It's about

2992
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:10,400
eight so we're still

2993
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:13,280
>> so who knows but that's what we've been

2994
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:16,320
focusing a lot on with Mag um and Cog.

2995
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:18,560
Um we've also been going through a lot

2996
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:20,320
of

2997
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:23,520
um discussions around especially with

2998
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:25,440
the budgetary cycle right now. What is

2999
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,920
everybody doing compensationwise? How is

3000
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,000
people treating how are different

3001
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:31,760
administrations treating their people?

3002
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:33,360
What are those types of raises? Things

3003
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:37,040
like that. Um for SCSD, we had a board I

3004
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:39,280
had a resource meeting yesterday and I

3005
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:41,599
had a

3006
02:02:41,599 --> 02:02:45,040
board meeting today. Um

3007
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,520
there is some interesting things going

3008
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,360
as to resource capture. Our people at

3009
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,760
SCSD

3010
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:57,040
are impressive. Um, they do such a great

3011
02:02:57,040 --> 02:03:00,320
job. Um, we have exquisite staff there,

3012
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:04,719
but the the leadership at SCSD

3013
02:03:04,719 --> 02:03:08,000
is really moving right now. They have a

3014
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:10,400
potential new contract that is coming

3015
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,800
that they are trying to negotiate that

3016
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,560
will hopefully be able to help us secure

3017
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:18,960
uh continued rates instead of increased

3018
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:21,360
rates. So, we're hoping to be able to do

3019
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,199
well there. This things have been a

3020
02:03:23,199 --> 02:03:25,760
little weird because we have hit our

3021
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:27,840
we're starting to hit our peak months

3022
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:31,520
faster due to the lack of snow. Um, and

3023
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,280
we had lower consumption during the

3024
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,520
winter than usual due to those warmer

3025
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:36,000
temperatures

3026
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:37,840
>> running the last couple days, which is

3027
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:38,800
wild.

3028
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,920
>> Amen. It is. It is crazy. And we're

3029
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,199
seeing that um we've been able to

3030
02:03:45,199 --> 02:03:47,920
negotiate a few different contracts with

3031
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:52,560
a few people or few power suppliers

3032
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,360
um that hopefully will lock us in at a

3033
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:57,520
much better rate for those peak hours

3034
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,080
and during the peak season. um which

3035
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,000
should help us be able to keep rates at

3036
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:03,599
the same. So we have no intention of

3037
02:04:03,599 --> 02:04:05,760
running a truth and taxation there on

3038
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:08,400
rate increases which is always so good

3039
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,040
news. Um nothing really new for the

3040
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:12,960
transfer station.

3041
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:18,719
Um but for a legal update, I did want to make a comment more than actual an

3042
02:04:18,719 --> 02:04:22,239
update because there's not much that has

3043
02:04:22,239 --> 02:04:32,719
changed legally. Um though we have had a hearing date um for our state appeal

3044
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:36,800
dismissal case as well as our vexacious

3045
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:42,159
um claim against in to against them. Um

3046
02:04:42,159 --> 02:04:44,080
and so hopefully that will go well for

3047
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:47,360
us. Um but I wanted to make a comment.

3048
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,560
There was a post from Anonymous on their

3049
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:52,320
Facebook page and they and they made a

3050
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:56,550
comment that I'd like to

3051
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,719
give a little bit of a of a counter

3052
02:04:58,719 --> 02:05:00,639
comment to

3053
02:05:00,639 --> 02:05:04,400
and it's so it says this number three in

3054
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:07,440
their in their long post. Legal costs

3055
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:10,159
without clear context. March alone

3056
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:12,560
included approximately 22,000 in legal

3057
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:17,040
expenses involving multiple legal teams.

3058
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:19,280
While legal costs can vary, there are no

3059
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:21,920
clear public breakdown or historical

3060
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,639
context provided during the meeting.

3061
02:05:24,639 --> 02:05:28,080
Residents should be able to understand

3062
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,719
and then it's four three bullet points

3063
02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:33,520
what these costs relate to, whether they

3064
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,080
are increasing and how they compare

3065
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,480
year-over-year.

3066
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:42,320
Um it is true that there are multiple

3067
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:45,119
entities involved. Um a lot of that has

3068
02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:47,440
to do with the fact that

3069
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:50,159
most of the legal issues we've dealt

3070
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:52,080
with have been land used issues which

3071
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:54,000
are typically not something that is

3072
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:57,520
litigated the way this has been. Um thus

3073
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,800
insurance no longer is carrying for

3074
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:03,599
those particular cases and that is why

3075
02:06:03,599 --> 02:06:07,119
our legal fees have increased. uh we

3076
02:06:07,119 --> 02:06:09,920
believe we may be able to look at

3077
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:12,880
potential strategies on that front. Um

3078
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:14,719
but one of the reasons that I wanted to

3079
02:06:14,719 --> 02:06:19,280
highlight here is when we do provide

3080
02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:22,960
legal updates um with a great degree of

3081
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,520
clarity, there tends to be legal

3082
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:27,360
retribution.

3083
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:30,719
So on

3084
02:06:30,719 --> 02:06:32,639
um actually I don't know the date. This

3085
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:37,119
is February 25th. We had um is that when

3086
02:06:37,119 --> 02:06:41,280
that amendment was filed? 225. Is that

3087
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,520
what that means?

3088
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:44,880
>> Well, likely

3089
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:47,760
>> earlier this year there was a second

3090
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:51,840
amended complaint filed um in the Fugia

3091
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:56,239
versus Woodland Hills and many others.

3092
02:06:56,239 --> 02:06:59,119
And this is an amendment um and this is

3093
02:06:59,119 --> 02:07:02,079
kind of what it states when they are

3094
02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:04,960
litigating me personally. And I'm saying

3095
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:07,920
this not to make bring pity to to me or

3096
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:09,679
any of the other staff that have been

3097
02:07:09,679 --> 02:07:12,800
personally called into this litigation,

3098
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:15,280
but for the reasons of why we may not

3099
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:17,679
always give full clarity around the

3100
02:07:17,679 --> 02:07:19,840
legal situation going on in the city.

3101
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:24,320
Because one, we have a narrative that is

3102
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,880
not necessarily articulating

3103
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:30,239
um in my opinion an integral uh view of

3104
02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:32,719
what is going on. But this is what the

3105
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:34,960
amended claim now is saying about a

3106
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:37,679
statement I read in February 10th due to

3107
02:07:37,679 --> 02:07:40,159
a request for higher legal transparency.

3108
02:07:40,159 --> 02:07:43,199
It says, "As mayor, Hillyard on February

3109
02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:47,520
10th, 2026 broadcast to $520 city

3110
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:50,960
households a $6,500

3111
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,360
per household cost figure for settlement

3112
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:56,000
of this litigation that he subsequently

3113
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,440
admitted had no documentary basis. There

3114
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:02,320
are no records documenting this uh

3115
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:04,159
calculation and he is quoting an email

3116
02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:06,880
that I sent to a resident requesting a

3117
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:09,840
grammar for that calculation. Um

3118
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:14,239
selectioning among undocumented figures

3119
02:08:14,239 --> 02:08:16,639
city recorder stones carbon copied on

3120
02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:19,199
Hillyard's written admission took no

3121
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:22,000
corrective action. Now this is them

3122
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,800
claiming that we are hiding information

3123
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,440
um which is a falsity. What we are

3124
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:30,639
saying is there is no record quantifying

3125
02:08:30,639 --> 02:08:33,199
this calculation because basically

3126
02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:35,679
>> it's simple math.

3127
02:08:35,679 --> 02:08:37,679
>> I rendered them the numbers in our head

3128
02:08:37,679 --> 02:08:40,800
with a calculator on my phone, right? We

3129
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:44,480
added the two different uh the smallest

3130
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:48,320
which is also uh changed a little bit

3131
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:51,920
here in these amended complaints. um the

3132
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:55,679
smallest numbers of both potential

3133
02:08:55,679 --> 02:08:57,280
uh claims that have been filed against

3134
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,280
the city divided by the number of

3135
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,360
resident homes in the city and that's

3136
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:03,599
where the number came from. And so there

3137
02:09:03,599 --> 02:09:05,920
is a constant fabrication or

3138
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,159
exaggeration or manipulation of our

3139
02:09:08,159 --> 02:09:10,400
words. And thus the legal updates we're

3140
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:12,719
trying to keep as factual as possible

3141
02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:14,800
because we're not trying to weaponize

3142
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:17,360
anything, but they are this is the funds

3143
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:19,440
of the city of Wooden Hills, which is a

3144
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,679
collective sum of our residents. It's

3145
02:09:21,679 --> 02:09:25,119
their money. Um, as I have spent so much

3146
02:09:25,119 --> 02:09:27,840
time going over the budget uh with the

3147
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,079
staff, with the finance committee twice

3148
02:09:30,079 --> 02:09:33,599
and the council, we hold these funds

3149
02:09:33,599 --> 02:09:36,880
sacred. Um, the expenditure of them we

3150
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:40,159
try not to to do without careful

3151
02:09:40,159 --> 02:09:43,040
consideration. And so when these

3152
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:46,000
allegations are made, part of the reason

3153
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:48,000
we don't necessarily go into these

3154
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,880
details is due to the retaliation that

3155
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:53,520
we get. And thus, I sometimes feel these

3156
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,119
are statements of somewhat of an

3157
02:09:55,119 --> 02:09:57,040
entrapment, getting us to say things

3158
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:58,800
that they can use out of context to thus

3159
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,239
increase their litigation against the

3160
02:10:00,239 --> 02:10:02,880
city, increasing the costs of the city.

3161
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,199
Um, and so I just wanted to give that

3162
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:06,960
legal update and a little bit of context

3163
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,679
to uh the narrative that is being

3164
02:10:09,679 --> 02:10:12,480
propagated um on social media. there

3165
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,400
will be more now because you

3166
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,400
>> of course I made this comment now it'll

3167
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:18,000
be back out there but I did want to at

3168
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,560
least put in those two cents and they

3169
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:22,159
have the freedom of speech and I'd never

3170
02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:25,679
want to remove that. So um with that

3171
02:10:25,679 --> 02:10:27,840
being said though I'd like to move to

3172
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:30,400
council member Hutchings

3173
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:36,079
for SUVMWA and Mount Nebo Water.

3174
02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:37,920
>> So now I got to follow that. I

3175
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:39,520
appreciate it

3176
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:41,360
>> every single time because you're always

3177
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:44,239
after me, brother.

3178
02:10:44,239 --> 02:10:46,719
>> Okay, for SUVA or South Utah Valley

3179
02:10:46,719 --> 02:10:49,199
Municipal Water Association, we we met

3180
02:10:49,199 --> 02:10:50,960
with both of these associations

3181
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:54,000
yesterday. Um I was able to get them to

3182
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,280
start uh broadcasting those as an online

3183
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:58,960
so I'm able to attend those when I'm out

3184
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:02,400
of town. Um we are the it was a work

3185
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:06,239
session for Sumba. Um and a couple of

3186
02:11:06,239 --> 02:11:09,280
the items that we work through, one is

3187
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,560
the attorney um that used to cover SUMBA

3188
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:14,320
is no longer with patient city. So we're

3189
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:17,040
working to find attorney coverage. Um

3190
02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:20,800
the uh finance financial group that

3191
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,599
covered strong and that had had done

3192
02:11:23,599 --> 02:11:28,639
representation for SUVA has retired and

3193
02:11:28,639 --> 02:11:32,159
so he's done it for decades and so

3194
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:33,840
they're looking for someone new. I

3195
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:36,400
actually uh talked with Charlene and

3196
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,960
she's interested and and I proposed her

3197
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,440
name. Um they're going to get through

3198
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,239
the this fiscal year and the new budget

3199
02:11:44,239 --> 02:11:47,920
with help from uh PAC city and then

3200
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:51,199
we're going to look at at proposals and

3201
02:11:51,199 --> 02:11:53,679
she will be on that. She said when I

3202
02:11:53,679 --> 02:11:55,440
talked to her she said it was it fit

3203
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:57,520
right into the kind of thing that she's

3204
02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:01,040
looking for. um and the technical

3205
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:04,480
committee which I had um actually

3206
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,280
nominated Ted to help chair with Brady

3207
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:11,199
Wild from Salem. Um

3208
02:12:11,199 --> 02:12:13,679
and Ted dodged a big bullet there and

3209
02:12:13,679 --> 02:12:16,159
Brady and and now I've forgotten the

3210
02:12:16,159 --> 02:12:18,320
name are are going to be taking care of

3211
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:20,400
that technical committee. So I've told

3212
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,280
Ted just as long as he's there to to uh

3213
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:25,280
to mentor them, mentor the new young

3214
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:27,920
kids and and help them through this. Um

3215
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:29,920
Ted's super experienced with this kind

3216
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,480
of thing, but Sumba actually is is one

3217
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,639
of the lesser of the the groups that I

3218
02:12:34,639 --> 02:12:36,880
feel like that that I attend their

3219
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:41,679
meetings. Um and and um more of it is

3220
02:12:41,679 --> 02:12:44,560
the Mount Nebo. Mount Nebo is much more

3221
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:47,440
uh complex in in what they're doing. So

3222
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,840
I'll move on to Mount Nebo. Um again, we

3223
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:52,800
had the meeting yesterday and the big

3224
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:54,480
part of that meeting, the the largest

3225
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:55,840
part of that meeting was going over the

3226
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,480
groundwater model. Um, they put a lot of

3227
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:00,000
information into this TED. If you

3228
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:01,920
haven't seen it yet, um, I'm trying to

3229
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:03,679
get a copy of it so we can pass it on

3230
02:13:03,679 --> 02:13:06,079
and we can really see what they've been

3231
02:13:06,079 --> 02:13:07,360
putting together. Put a lot of money

3232
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:09,760
into this ground uh, groundwater model

3233
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:13,520
update and um,

3234
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:16,079
then kind of went through kind of how

3235
02:13:16,079 --> 02:13:17,440
this thing is laid out. It's a little

3236
02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:20,719
bit different and and how they're putting those things together.

3237
02:13:20,719 --> 02:13:22,400
Um, really really interesting. I'll try

3238
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:25,280
to get that for everybody to look at.

3239
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:28,239
Um, one of the things that they are are

3240
02:13:28,239 --> 02:13:33,760
looking at is uh the 2027 database and

3241
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:36,000
managing that. Um, so we're probably

3242
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:40,239
going to see some um some more

3243
02:13:40,239 --> 02:13:41,520
fees. I don't know that it's going to be

3244
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:44,639
any more than we were before. Um, but

3245
02:13:44,639 --> 02:13:47,360
there there is some maintaining of that

3246
02:13:47,360 --> 02:13:50,159
system um that's going to come out. So,

3247
02:13:50,159 --> 02:13:52,719
we'll see that coming through. Um, we

3248
02:13:52,719 --> 02:13:56,239
got a um, presentation from the water

3249
02:13:56,239 --> 02:13:59,119
commissioner at Vidmar for the 2026

3250
02:13:59,119 --> 02:14:01,920
water year. Not looking so fantastic,

3251
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:05,520
folks. And we all know that. Um, they

3252
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:08,480
did uh,

3253
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,400
review and and put the tenative budget

3254
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:13,520
together and voted on that. Um, and then

3255
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:17,040
talked a little bit about some um,

3256
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:18,719
future meetings. And one of the things

3257
02:14:18,719 --> 02:14:20,239
that they talked about, and I'll get

3258
02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:22,480
more information as this comes out, is

3259
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:24,400
last year they had a special meeting

3260
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:26,159
around July 1st, and they're looking at

3261
02:14:26,159 --> 02:14:28,079
doing it again. And what they want to do

3262
02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:30,239
is they want to present with local,

3263
02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:33,119
state, and federal uh elected officials,

3264
02:14:33,119 --> 02:14:34,560
and they're looking at doing that in

3265
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:38,880
Spanish at the library. Um, so expect an

3266
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:41,520
invite somewhere around July 1st for

3267
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:44,320
everyone on that. Um and so they want to

3268
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:47,040
do some some presentations with with all

3269
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:48,800
the elect as many elected officials as

3270
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,360
they can um including uh council people

3271
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,199
on that. Um

3272
02:14:53,199 --> 02:14:55,920
>> did you say that's m July 1st for all of

3273
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:58,159
us? That's a set date right now.

3274
02:14:58,159 --> 02:15:02,400
>> It is not it's just proposed. So they're they're working out the the

3275
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:04,159
finals and I'll get that information to

3276
02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:09,199
you, but expect it right there. Um and one of the things they're looking at

3277
02:15:09,199 --> 02:15:11,920
is the the southern Utah County water

3278
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,800
demands and the infrastructure when the

3279
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:17,679
new um

3280
02:15:17,679 --> 02:15:21,119
uh when the new uh treatment center

3281
02:15:21,119 --> 02:15:23,360
because that's been put off when that is

3282
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:25,199
going to be needed and and things like

3283
02:15:25,199 --> 02:15:27,280
that into the future. So kind of look

3284
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:29,679
forward to that and I'll do my best to

3285
02:15:29,679 --> 02:15:31,440
attend it if you're not able to make it

3286
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:34,800
and and give a report um to that. One of

3287
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:36,159
the things that we talked about kind of

3288
02:15:36,159 --> 02:15:39,599
in both meetings more in the Mount Nebo

3289
02:15:39,599 --> 02:15:41,440
um and we all know we're in in a tough

3290
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:45,840
year, right, for water. Um and one of

3291
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:48,480
the things that they talked about was uh

3292
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:51,440
kind of strike when the iron is hot. Um

3293
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:54,480
everybody is more open to water

3294
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:57,199
conservation, water restrictions right

3295
02:15:57,199 --> 02:15:59,920
now because everybody knows how

3296
02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:01,920
difficult our water year has been and

3297
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,800
our lower snow pack has been. So, um I

3298
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:06,639
had talked to Ted previously and I'm

3299
02:16:06,639 --> 02:16:08,480
going to going to recommend to the mayor

3300
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:12,079
and Ted that we uh look at some

3301
02:16:12,079 --> 02:16:15,360
conservation efforts uh sooner than

3302
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:17,040
later and and like we talked about going

3303
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,040
through the the general plan that that

3304
02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:21,040
people have a tendency to use more water

3305
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:24,800
during drought years. And so now is a

3306
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:27,360
time for us to to push some conservation

3307
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:31,840
efforts. um maybe get the the our our

3308
02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:34,240
PIO involved and and get some things out

3309
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:37,120
on social media and and let's see if we

3310
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:39,519
can do some conservation because we're

3311
02:16:39,519 --> 02:16:41,280
in for a tough year. It's not going to

3312
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:43,920
affect us near as much as some other

3313
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:46,960
cities. Um actually Strawberry, their

3314
02:16:46,960 --> 02:16:49,599
bank levels are doing really well, but

3315
02:16:49,599 --> 02:16:51,439
they're concerned. They're still

3316
02:16:51,439 --> 02:16:53,120
concerned. Everybody's quite concerned

3317
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:55,840
about the water. So, um I I think some

3318
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:59,200
conservation efforts um coming from our

3319
02:16:59,200 --> 02:17:01,519
city um at least recommend high

3320
02:17:01,519 --> 02:17:04,800
recommendations if not um restrictions

3321
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:08,240
would be a good time to do that for us.

3322
02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:11,760
So, that's my report. Thank you.

3323
02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:14,319
>> Thank you, Council Member Hutchkins. I

3324
02:17:14,319 --> 02:17:17,359
failed to uh acknowledge the absence of

3325
02:17:17,359 --> 02:17:20,880
council member John's earlier. Um but he

3326
02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:24,319
is unable to uh join us and so he has

3327
02:17:24,319 --> 02:17:28,559
been excused. Um council member Lund

3328
02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:30,399
um well you can see on there I didn't

3329
02:17:30,399 --> 02:17:33,120
have anything specifically but

3330
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:36,479
um we have our new co-chairs for

3331
02:17:36,479 --> 02:17:41,359
Woodland Hills Days and um we had some

3332
02:17:41,359 --> 02:17:43,120
good name suggestions. We had quite a

3333
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:45,760
few, but one thing that we heard from a

3334
02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:47,040
lot of people is that we really wanted

3335
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:49,120
to get some participation from Summit

3336
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:51,280
Creek. That's something that we've

3337
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:52,960
really lacked in some of our major

3338
02:17:52,960 --> 02:17:56,800
events. Um, so I bravely texted Tim and

3339
02:17:56,800 --> 02:17:59,679
Hillary Weeks last night cuz I had just

3340
02:17:59,679 --> 02:18:03,760
gotten home from my trip and they said, "Yeah, we're going to be in

3341
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:05,439
the car driving in 20 minutes. Give us a

3342
02:18:05,439 --> 02:18:07,920
call." So I did and they didn't even

3343
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:09,679
have to think about it. they already had

3344
02:18:09,679 --> 02:18:13,040
ideas and they said yes immediately. So,

3345
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:14,880
hey, Hillary had said, "We'll think

3346
02:18:14,880 --> 02:18:16,000
about it. We'll call you tomorrow." And

3347
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:17,840
she goes, "You know what? We're just

3348
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:19,040
going to commit right now. We're both

3349
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:20,639
looking at each other nodding our heads.

3350
02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:23,840
Yes." So, um anyway, so I'm excited.

3351
02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:26,080
They have some good ideas. I talked to

3352
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,479
them about wanting to incorporate the

3353
02:18:28,479 --> 02:18:30,719
250 years celebration into Woodland

3354
02:18:30,719 --> 02:18:34,160
Hills Days. And so, um, they were really

3355
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:35,439
excited about that and they were going

3356
02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:36,639
to start brainstorming and we're going

3357
02:18:36,639 --> 02:18:38,639
to have our first official meeting May

3358
02:18:38,639 --> 02:18:41,840
27th. So, we'll get everybody together,

3359
02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:43,760
get rolling.

3360
02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:44,240
>> Wonderful.

3361
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:46,000
>> And Dan's helping with all that. And I

3362
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:47,840
picked the people without asking, but he

3363
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:48,719
knew the names. I

3364
02:18:48,719 --> 02:18:49,200
>> Yes,

3365
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:50,880
>> he knew the names and he didn't object

3366
02:18:50,880 --> 02:18:53,519
to the names. I just called them and

3367
02:18:53,519 --> 02:18:56,639
picked them. So, anyway, um, yeah,

3368
02:18:56,639 --> 02:18:57,439
that's all.

3369
02:18:57,439 --> 02:18:59,840
>> Well, wonderful. Uh, Council Member

3370
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:00,479
Malovich.

3371
02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:03,280
>> Yes. with the animal shelter. Um like

3372
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,160
every other entity doing their budget.

3373
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:08,639
So we passed the budget today. Um

3374
02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:11,040
participation fees are based on each

3375
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:14,080
city's share of total animal intake.

3376
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:16,160
When one city experiences an increase in

3377
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:17,760
animals, their percentage and cost

3378
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:20,319
rises. Conversely, decreases in another

3379
02:19:20,319 --> 02:19:22,800
shift city shift percentages across all

3380
02:19:22,800 --> 02:19:25,439
participants. Animal numbers are the

3381
02:19:25,439 --> 02:19:28,000
previous full calendar year. So they

3382
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,399
gave us the intake of and the money that

3383
02:19:30,399 --> 02:19:33,280
is allocated to that. Ours went up

3384
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:39,190
significantly. So it is at $4,967

3385
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:40,160
now. Um

3386
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:42,000
>> the year before we only had like one or

3387
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:42,479
something.

3388
02:19:42,479 --> 02:19:44,319
>> We have 12. We have 12 animals. That's

3389
02:19:44,319 --> 02:19:45,840
been the last the last couple of years

3390
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:47,840
we've had about 12. Um,

3391
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:48,720
>> okay.

3392
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:51,920
>> But, um, I brought up that this was not

3393
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:54,880
Oh, well, myself and, uh, Councilman

3394
02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:57,280
Oiler from Spanish Fork brought up that

3395
02:19:57,280 --> 02:19:59,120
this system is not a very good

3396
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:02,240
allocation of or assessment. The formula

3397
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:05,920
is not. Um, we're wanting to look, it's

3398
02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:08,319
too late for this year cuz they've

3399
02:20:08,319 --> 02:20:09,760
already put the budget numbers according

3400
02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:13,280
to Lee, but maybe changing that formula

3401
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:16,640
um, based on the class of city instead

3402
02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:18,560
of just the number of animals that are

3403
02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:21,600
taken in. Because when we did that, when

3404
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:23,280
I did the math for them and let them

3405
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,600
know that our allocation for Woodland

3406
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:29,359
Hills is $414 per animal.

3407
02:20:29,359 --> 02:20:33,760
>> Oh, yeah. But for Provo, theirs is only

3408
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:36,160
using the same formula. Theirs is only

3409
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:39,680
$170 per animal.

3410
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:43,040
So their formula is is not quite

3411
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:46,080
accurate in how they were how they were

3412
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:48,240
assessing the number of animals that are

3413
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:51,359
picked up based on the city size. So, we

3414
02:20:51,359 --> 02:20:52,960
uh Councilman Oiler and I are going to

3415
02:20:52,960 --> 02:20:56,080
work on this for next year that we can

3416
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:58,640
maybe have a little bit more of um some

3417
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,760
equity equality in in how that

3418
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:04,080
percentage is done. They didn't even

3419
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:08,160
recognize that it was so skewed.

3420
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:08,319
And

3421
02:21:08,319 --> 02:21:10,240
>> was there any calculation involved that

3422
02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:12,560
maybe people in the cities were dropping

3423
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:15,680
off their animals into us rural cities?

3424
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:19,439
>> Um Gan is for sure. I I just came from

3425
02:21:19,439 --> 02:21:21,600
Go Town Council. That's

3426
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:23,920
>> the mayor was there today and he said we

3427
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:25,840
know for sure some of the stuff that we

3428
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:29,040
were that was allocated for us. And so

3429
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:32,479
when an when an animal is picked up on

3430
02:21:32,479 --> 02:21:35,200
its in, you know, on the border or

3431
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:39,680
whatever, it has to uh has to go is

3432
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:41,840
negotiating on some of their animals. We

3433
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:44,960
only have 12 and they can when the it's

3434
02:21:44,960 --> 02:21:46,800
picked up and it says the street is in

3435
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,760
the middle of Woodland Hills. Um I we're

3436
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:51,600
probably

3437
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:53,680
I don't know

3438
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:56,000
how why are these animals are picked up

3439
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:58,160
or not picked up, you know, whatever.

3440
02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:01,280
But um hopefully we can get that changed

3441
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:03,040
because I did not feel that that was a

3442
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:06,800
very very good thing. Now in addition to

3443
02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:08,479
that, so that's the budget going

3444
02:22:08,479 --> 02:22:12,240
forward. Um and it was passed today. We

3445
02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:15,200
also passed another document that um Dor

3446
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:18,319
will probably appreciate. Um

3447
02:22:18,319 --> 02:22:19,040
>> last lady.

3448
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:21,280
>> Yeah. So today we approved the South

3449
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:23,840
Valley Animal Shelters

3450
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:27,840
community cat and TNVR policy. Remember

3451
02:22:27,840 --> 02:22:32,000
TNRV is trapneuter vaccinate and return

3452
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:34,399
um or community cat program. And so I

3453
02:22:34,399 --> 02:22:37,359
will um email you all this, but

3454
02:22:37,359 --> 02:22:41,040
basically it's um under code Utah code

3455
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:44,150
1146301

3456
02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:48,080
um a local government may choose to

3457
02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:50,479
authorize a community cap program

3458
02:22:50,479 --> 02:22:52,960
through our own ordinances. But then it

3459
02:22:52,960 --> 02:22:55,920
outlines the the specifics between

3460
02:22:55,920 --> 02:22:57,439
ourselves,

3461
02:22:57,439 --> 02:23:00,160
a rescue organization, and the shelter

3462
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:02,160
to what each one would be responsible

3463
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:04,720
for or not responsible for. Does not say

3464
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:06,800
that we need to do that. It's just a

3465
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:09,200
choice that each city would have, but I

3466
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:11,520
will email you the the final version

3467
02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:14,720
that we approved today as well as then

3468
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:16,080
the budget.

3469
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:19,200
>> Wonderful. Okay. Thank you much. Uh,

3470
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:22,880
Council Member Rhden. Um, no, just in

3471
02:23:22,880 --> 02:23:24,800
support of

3472
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:26,479
um,

3473
02:23:26,479 --> 02:23:30,640
Councilwoman Blunt

3474
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:33,040
uh, around Golden Hills Days. Um, and

3475
02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:35,840
then also you and I have discussed about

3476
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:38,960
a broader scope of educating residents

3477
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:41,040
on just kind of the events that we do

3478
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:44,000
support and host as a city and hopefully

3479
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:44,880
more

3480
02:23:44,880 --> 02:23:47,600
>> advertising of them regularly. Maybe

3481
02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:50,319
not. You know, I I'm actually surprised

3482
02:23:50,319 --> 02:23:51,920
on some of the ones you when you and I

3483
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:54,240
had a conversation. So, working on that.

3484
02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:57,680
Um, and then the other piece too for you

3485
02:23:57,680 --> 02:23:59,200
um

3486
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:02,960
is I'm building an application to better

3487
02:24:02,960 --> 02:24:05,600
manage uh Woodland Hill stays. So, as we

3488
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:07,680
transfer from chair to chair to chair,

3489
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:09,760
they'll actually have a software to help

3490
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:12,640
manage contacts, tasks, all those type

3491
02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:14,240
of things to better hopefully. Yeah,

3492
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:15,520
because right now we're just kind of

3493
02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:17,760
>> right now it's it's banners. It's it's a

3494
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,080
bunch of binders and

3495
02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:21,200
>> you know things of that notes,

3496
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:23,280
handwritten notes, spreadsheets, Google

3497
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:26,720
Docs. So, um going to build a little

3498
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:28,080
>> more consistency,

3499
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:30,000
>> help manage it. And then we'll have a

3500
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,479
mobile component as well, so they can be

3501
02:24:32,479 --> 02:24:33,840
able to manage it on the go.

3502
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:34,319
>> Awesome.

3503
02:24:34,319 --> 02:24:37,040
>> So, um but I'll we'll probably use this

3504
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:38,640
year as an opportunity to do that

3505
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:40,160
knowledge transfer and see what needs to

3506
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,080
go over and what content needs to be in

3507
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:44,479
there. Callie's did send an email. I'll

3508
02:24:44,479 --> 02:24:46,800
find it and forward it to YouTube where

3509
02:24:46,800 --> 02:24:48,960
they kind of had all that information.

3510
02:24:48,960 --> 02:24:50,800
So, I'll find it. I'm trying to think

3511
02:24:50,800 --> 02:24:52,800
where it was. It might be in a text,

3512
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:54,399
>> like a link to a Google doc or

3513
02:24:54,399 --> 02:24:54,880
something.

3514
02:24:54,880 --> 02:24:55,840
>> Yeah, exactly.

3515
02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:57,200
>> I'll see if I can find it and get it to

3516
02:24:57,200 --> 02:24:57,680
you.

3517
02:24:57,680 --> 02:24:58,800
>> We just want to put it more in our

3518
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:00,720
encapsulated with with the city rather

3519
02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:03,520
than in random Google Docs all over.

3520
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:04,240
>> Yep.

3521
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:05,920
>> I'm working on that one, too. So,

3522
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:09,439
>> beautiful. Thank you.

3523
02:25:09,439 --> 02:25:12,319
>> Okay. Um, any items for any upcoming

3524
02:25:12,319 --> 02:25:15,840
city council meetings?

3525
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:17,520
>> We talked about some last time. They're

3526
02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:20,319
still coming up. So, strategic plan is

3527
02:25:20,319 --> 02:25:20,880
one of those.

3528
02:25:20,880 --> 02:25:22,720
>> Strategic plan is one of them.

3529
02:25:22,720 --> 02:25:25,439
>> But we do have a public hearing next

3530
02:25:25,439 --> 02:25:26,960
week

3531
02:25:26,960 --> 02:25:29,040
for the bond.

3532
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:30,479
>> Yes. Next council meeting.

3533
02:25:30,479 --> 02:25:31,920
>> Next council meeting.

3534
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:33,359
>> I was going to say I have a meeting. We

3535
02:25:33,359 --> 02:25:36,319
have meeting next week. Yes, we do have

3536
02:25:36,319 --> 02:25:39,280
for that bond. Um,

3537
02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:41,680
>> we should be receiving hopefully some of

3538
02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:46,240
those documents uh shortly.

3539
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:48,160
Anything else, Michael? Or not Michael.

3540
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:49,439
if you have one, that'd be

3541
02:25:49,439 --> 02:25:53,750
great. Uh, Brian,

3542
02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:57,280
» nothing right now. Um, I'll work with uh

3543
02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:59,200
with Wayne when I actually get back into

3544
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:03,280
town on that uh uh ordinance that I was

3545
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:04,960
working on.

3546
02:26:04,960 --> 02:26:08,880
>> Wonderful. Okay. Thank you.

3547
02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:11,760
>> So, next we need to work on a grant for

3548
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:13,600
the playground.

3549
02:26:13,600 --> 02:26:16,790
>> Hey,

3550
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:18,160
» right toilet.

3551
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:19,439
>> Toilet. Mark.

3552
02:26:19,439 --> 02:26:22,800
>> Yeah, we need a toilet. We need a trail.

3553
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:25,120
>> Increase and increase security with the

3554
02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:28,150
toilet.

3555
02:26:28,160 --> 02:26:30,240
» Exactly. That'll be fun. That was one of

3556
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:31,920
the problems that we had when we didn't

3557
02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:33,760
put it in originally because we didn't

3558
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:35,760
have enough law enforcement to be able

3559
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:37,439
to make sure that

3560
02:26:37,439 --> 02:26:38,960
>> becomes a little drug hub.

3561
02:26:38,960 --> 02:26:42,319
>> Mhm. And that's why or other things. And

3562
02:26:42,319 --> 02:26:44,080
so we just need to make sure that

3563
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:45,200
>> those things happen there. Anyway,

3564
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:48,560
>> we have some we have some security in

3565
02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:49,680
place for our residents

3566
02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:52,240
>> and our little circles. This might be a

3567
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:55,200
good opportunity to remind the public

3568
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:58,080
that there are cameras throughout the

3569
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:02,160
city and and one of those is at the park

3570
02:27:02,160 --> 02:27:06,800
>> and so it is being surveiled so you may

3571
02:27:06,800 --> 02:27:08,560
want to just keep that in mind.

3572
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:10,479
>> Tell your teenagers there on cameras

3573
02:27:10,479 --> 02:27:11,439
everywhere.

3574
02:27:11,439 --> 02:27:13,840
>> Okay, then we will take uh what are we

3575
02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:16,560
at here? Why can't we ever end like 5

3576
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,000
minutes to 8:30?

3577
02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:18,800
>> I don't know.

3578
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:21,359
>> We will end now. We'll take a break till

3579
02:27:21,359 --> 02:27:31,349
8:35.

3580
02:27:31,359 --> 02:27:34,800
» Okay, Brian, can you hear us?

3581
02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:36,560
>> Yes, sir.

3582
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:38,399
>> Perfect. Okay, then I'd like to call

3583
02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:40,800
this city council meeting to order. Uh,

3584
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:42,640
we are going to have an invocation from

3585
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:44,479
Council Member Rhoden and a pledge of

3586
02:27:44,479 --> 02:27:51,030
allegiance from Council Member Malovich.

3587
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:52,000
Father, we're thankful for the

3588
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,960
opportunity to meet u together as city

3589
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:57,439
council and mayor and supporting staff

3590
02:27:57,439 --> 02:28:00,880
to u

3591
02:28:00,880 --> 02:28:03,920
do the work of this wonderful community.

3592
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:05,280
We're thankful for the opportunity to

3593
02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:07,760
serve. We pray for our community and its

3594
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:10,080
unique needs and our people. We pray

3595
02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:12,479
that we'll be mindful of them and that

3596
02:28:12,479 --> 02:28:16,880
um we can be judicious and educated

3597
02:28:16,880 --> 02:28:18,479
about how we go about this city

3598
02:28:18,479 --> 02:28:20,880
business. And this we pray for in Jesus

3599
02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:22,000
name. Amen.

3600
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:22,960
>> Amen.

3601
02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:27,670
>> Everybody would please rise and repeat.

3602
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:31,280
» I pledge algiance to the flag of the

3603
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:34,479
United States of America and to the

3604
02:28:34,479 --> 02:28:38,479
republic for which it stands. One nation

3605
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:42,560
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

3606
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:48,630
justice for all.

3607
02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:51,200
» Thank you both. I'd like to open the

3608
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:53,359
public comment. Um, public comments are

3609
02:28:53,359 --> 02:28:55,280
limited to two minutes per individual

3610
02:28:55,280 --> 02:28:58,160
unless otherwise directed. Um, comments

3611
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:00,960
submitted by email must be received by

3612
02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:03,200
300 p.m. on the day of the meeting. to

3613
02:29:03,200 --> 02:29:04,960
be included in the official record.

3614
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:07,200
Emmailed comments will not be read aloud

3615
02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:09,359
during the meeting, but will be

3616
02:29:09,359 --> 02:29:11,040
distributed to the city council and

3617
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:14,560
included in the meeting record.

3618
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:17,359
So, do I have anybody uh Diana or

3619
02:29:17,359 --> 02:29:19,600
Michael?

3620
02:29:19,600 --> 02:29:21,600
>> We lost Sher. She already posted on

3621
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:22,640
Facebook.

3622
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:24,319
>> Oh,

3623
02:29:24,319 --> 02:29:26,560
Diana.

3624
02:29:26,560 --> 02:29:30,720
>> I My family just got home, so I can put

3625
02:29:30,720 --> 02:29:32,800
myself here. There were just comments

3626
02:29:32,800 --> 02:29:34,960
that of wording that could have helped

3627
02:29:34,960 --> 02:29:36,800
and I've shared it with Carrie and

3628
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:39,040
Janet.

3629
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:43,990
I don't know that it's

3630
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:45,840
» we can take out the word chipper days

3631
02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:48,160
because what it is is a city forest wise

3632
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:50,319
cleanup days. Sometimes we have the

3633
02:29:50,319 --> 02:29:51,439
advantage of having chipper days,

3634
02:29:51,439 --> 02:29:53,760
sometimes we don't. But it would be wise

3635
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:56,720
if we continue to have something every

3636
02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:59,920
year that's calendared and reminding

3637
02:29:59,920 --> 02:30:03,439
citizens how to do what

3638
02:30:03,439 --> 02:30:05,439
>> I like that

3639
02:30:05,439 --> 02:30:07,040
>> because there have been years there's

3640
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:08,560
where we just had the green barrels,

3641
02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:10,000
right? I mean I remember one year we had

3642
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:11,920
the bins and we didn't have the chipper

3643
02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:15,120
but we could follow all our green

3644
02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:16,160
>> Yeah.

3645
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:19,439
>> water usage reducing water usage. My

3646
02:30:19,439 --> 02:30:21,520
suggestion was some methods we encourage

3647
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:23,280
are blank by blank, but you got close to

3648
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:26,080
that one by the time you're done um

3649
02:30:26,080 --> 02:30:27,680
talking.

3650
02:30:27,680 --> 02:30:29,359
And I said,

3651
02:30:29,359 --> 02:30:31,760
>> our usage is typically greater on that

3652
02:30:31,760 --> 02:30:34,640
one line that was highlighted.

3653
02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:37,040
>> That's right.

3654
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:39,600
>> Yeah. And not even, you know, just

3655
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:42,000
globally whenever there's a drought,

3656
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:47,270
water usage typically greater.

3657
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:48,720
» Thank you.

3658
02:30:48,720 --> 02:30:51,200
Hey, thank you. Yeah, I received those.

3659
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:55,760
Um, and I'll be including those.

3660
02:30:55,760 --> 02:30:57,359
Appreciate it. Uh, Michael, anything

3661
02:30:57,359 --> 02:30:58,319
from you?

3662
02:30:58,319 --> 02:30:59,840
>> Thank you. No, nothing tonight. I

3663
02:30:59,840 --> 02:31:01,040
appreciate it.

3664
02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:02,720
>> Okay. Thank you for your contributions

3665
02:31:02,720 --> 02:31:04,240
on the finance committee as well. You've

3666
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:07,680
been a great asset there.

3667
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:09,840
Okay, then I will close the public uh

3668
02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:12,479
comment. Actually, is there anybody here

3669
02:31:12,479 --> 02:31:14,479
do

3670
02:31:14,479 --> 02:31:16,240
>> not right now? No. Okay,

3671
02:31:16,240 --> 02:31:18,399
>> then we will continue to close it. Um,

3672
02:31:18,399 --> 02:31:20,479
and we will move to the consent agenda.

3673
02:31:20,479 --> 02:31:23,040
The approval of minutes for April 28th,

3674
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:26,640
2026 city council meeting.

3675
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:27,840
>> Do I have a motion?

3676
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:29,840
>> I'll make a motion that we approve the

3677
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:30,960
minutes.

3678
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:31,680
>> I'll second.

3679
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:34,479
>> Motion from council member or Janet

3680
02:31:34,479 --> 02:31:37,359
Lunt. Wow, I'm struggling.

3681
02:31:37,359 --> 02:31:39,840
>> And a second from council member Rhoden.

3682
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:42,000
Um, council member Malovich.

3683
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:42,560
>> Yes.

3684
02:31:42,560 --> 02:31:45,920
>> Council member Hutchkins. Yes.

3685
02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:47,040
>> Council member Rhoden.

3686
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:47,520
>> Yes.

3687
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:48,640
>> Council member Lund.

3688
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:49,920
>> Yes.

3689
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:52,880
>> The consent agenda passes. Um business

3690
02:31:52,880 --> 02:31:54,399
consideration and possible action

3691
02:31:54,399 --> 02:31:56,560
authorizing the mayor to execute the

3692
02:31:56,560 --> 02:31:58,160
accounting services contract with

3693
02:31:58,160 --> 02:32:00,720
Charlene Wild. I'll accept a motion.

3694
02:32:00,720 --> 02:32:02,160
>> I'll motion.

3695
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:04,479
>> Motion from council member Malovich. Do

3696
02:32:04,479 --> 02:32:05,760
I have a second?

3697
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:07,840
>> I'll second.

3698
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:10,960
>> Okay. Uh okay. Sounds like it goes the

3699
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:13,200
second goes to council member Hutchkins.

3700
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:15,760
Um, Council Member Lund,

3701
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:16,240
>> yes.

3702
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:17,280
>> Council member Roden,

3703
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:17,760
>> yes.

3704
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:19,200
>> Council member Hutchkins,

3705
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:20,560
>> yes.

3706
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:21,760
>> Council member Malovich,

3707
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:22,800
>> yes.

3708
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:25,760
>> Thank you so much for that support. Um,

3709
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:28,640
I have no need for or see a reason to go

3710
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:30,160
into close session. Is there anybody

3711
02:32:30,160 --> 02:32:31,920
here that feels that would be worth our

3712
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:35,040
time per the state statute allowance?

3713
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:37,120
>> Not tonight. For me,

3714
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:39,120
>> you you kind of gave us a little bit of

3715
02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:41,439
a legal update during your presentation,

3716
02:32:41,439 --> 02:32:44,479
so Wonderful. Okay.

3717
02:32:44,479 --> 02:32:46,399
>> Wait, wait, wait. Does that mean we're

3718
02:32:46,399 --> 02:32:47,760
going to be out of here?

3719
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:49,200
>> Oh, we're trying to break some records

3720
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:51,439
here. Uh, I'll accept a motion to

3721
02:32:51,439 --> 02:32:52,160
adjurnn.

3722
02:32:52,160 --> 02:32:54,319
>> I'll make a motion.

3723
02:32:54,319 --> 02:32:55,600
>> Do I have a second?

3724
02:32:55,600 --> 02:32:56,479
>> Second.

3725
02:32:56,479 --> 02:32:58,560
>> And we are adjourned.

3726
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:00,080
>> Thank you everybody. Thank you, Diana.

3727
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:01,840
Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Dorl.

3728
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:05,479
Appreciate you guys.