[2:20] My Honda works.
[2:26] » You okay? Brian, can you hear us?
[2:28] >> Thanks. Byebye.
[2:30] >> Yes, sir.
[2:31] >> Perfect. You should have received an
[2:33] email just barely from me.
[2:36] >> Um,
[2:37] >> got it.
[2:38] >> Wonderful. Okay, I'd like to welcome
[2:40] everybody to uh the city council work
[2:42] session on May 12th, 2026.
[2:46] Um, thank you for those online. Uh,
[2:50] thank you for those here in attendance.
[2:52] Um, this is going to be, I think, a
[2:56] pretty important meeting, but hopefully
[2:58] we'll be able to clip along and also be
[3:00] effective. We're going to start with the
[3:03] general plan review. Um, we're going to
[3:05] talk about this chapters 7 through 10 as
[3:09] well as the executive summary of the
[3:12] Woodland Hills general plan. So, let me
[3:16] share my screen here.
[3:19] And you guys all should have received
[3:21] this
[3:23] a couple weeks ago, I think, right?
[3:25] >> Yeah.
[3:27] >> Wow. Look at us go. We usually give it
[3:30] to you like 10 seconds before.
[3:34] and I received uh all of Steve's
[3:36] comments and notes. Um I have not yet
[3:39] had time because I've been working head
[3:41] deep in the budget.
[3:43] Um
[3:45] >> so I'll still be implementing his but
[3:47] I'd like us to just jump through here.
[3:50] Um Brian, you can see my screen.
[3:54] >> Yes.
[3:55] >> Perfect. Okay, let's just jump through
[3:57] and hit all these red spots. And if
[3:59] there's any other comments while we go
[4:01] through them, please raise them as we go
[4:03] through.
[4:05] >> I mean really there wasn't much.
[4:08] >> Okay, so here on this first one, we're
[4:11] shifting limited to controlled and
[4:14] single family medium low density to
[4:17] medium single family medium or density
[4:20] development.
[4:21] >> Mhm.
[4:22] >> Does that uh
[4:24] anybody have any issues there?
[4:26] >> No. Okay.
[4:31] here
[4:34] we are going and adding
[4:37] um economic resilience and the
[4:39] contribute and to contribute to the
[4:41] local economy that surrounds the city.
[4:47] » Any issues there?
[4:49] >> When we say surrounds the city, we're
[4:50] talking about Salem
[4:51] >> Salem and stuff. Is that the idea?
[4:53] >> Okay. Not Spanish.
[4:55] >> Correct.
[4:57] >> Okay. I I do have a couple I got
[5:00] actually I've got notes all over this
[5:02] thing um just to be honest.
[5:05] >> Um
[5:07] with with that one that surrounds the
[5:09] city that is duplicative um you know
[5:13] you're you're just when you say local
[5:15] economy that means it's local it
[5:18] surrounds the city that is that is you
[5:20] know you don't need to say that. I think
[5:22] that's that's improper English. You're duplicating what you just said.
[5:28] >> Yeah. Does anybody
[5:30] >> Well, I agree because the local economy
[5:32] can be wherever
[5:36] >> and Janet.
[5:38] >> Yeah. It it sounds a little redundant. I
[5:40] mean, I think we could take it off and
[5:41] it still has the same
[5:42] >> same. Yeah. Same effect.
[5:44] >> Okay.
[5:46] Um before that
[5:48] um in the the paragraph at the top it
[5:54] says retail centers or office parts is
[5:57] neither desired nor practice. I don't
[6:00] know that we can say that it's not
[6:02] desired. I there are some people in the
[6:03] city that would desire retail
[6:07] but it is not practical. Um I I I
[6:11] disagree that it's neither desired nor.
[6:13] I think that should be struck.
[6:17] >> I think that that makes sense because
[6:19] that's put I guess that's subjective is
[6:22] what you're saying. It just depends on
[6:23] who you're talking to. So if you keep it
[6:25] so it's it's neutral.
[6:29] >> It's not desired by 99% of people. But
[6:31] yeah, I get it.
[6:35] >> There are plenty of people that want
[6:36] more
[6:38] >> tax base, right? And and that's the only
[6:41] opportunity for tax base. So,
[6:45] >> what about something more like that?
[6:47] >> Probably not.
[6:48] practical.
[6:50] >> Yes. And I I do agree that it's not
[6:53] practical. We just don't have the
[6:55] traffic for retail.
[6:58] >> I think we've got quite the changing
[7:00] demographic,
[7:02] >> right, with Vidian, with Three Bridges,
[7:05] with everything else that's coming in.
[7:07] >> Harmon
[7:08] >> with We've got two Harmans coming.
[7:10] >> Now, there's some Harman coming in. you
[7:12] know, Spanish and Salem. Maybe we can
[7:15] still get that Harmon if they're trying
[7:16] to do the trifecta.
[7:20] » Okay. Anything else there, Brian?
[7:23] >> Um I have more on that page if you're
[7:26] okay.
[7:27] >> Let's hear it.
[7:28] >> So, down in the um
[7:33] it says Utah State Code continues to
[7:35] update regulations involving licensing
[7:37] and permitting woodland. Then that's one sentence. So, Woodland Hills
[7:42] follows these updates and intends its
[7:44] code and amends its code as needed. I
[7:47] think that could be combined into one
[7:50] simple sentence. It doesn't read very
[7:53] well.
[7:57] » State code continues update regulations
[7:59] involving licensing and permitting.
[8:01] >> Yeah.
[8:02] >> And Woodland Hills policies, updates,
[8:04] and amend their codes. Okay.
[8:08] Um then
[8:11] the next paragraph um which it talks
[8:15] about celebrating local entrepreneurship
[8:18] by publishing list of homebased
[8:20] business. Is this something we're going
[8:21] to do? This is this is this is saying
[8:25] we're going to do something
[8:30] » publishing.
[8:31] >> Currently we actually do the opposite of
[8:33] that.
[8:34] We don't intentionally publish anything.
[8:37] We've gone extremely restrictive because
[8:40] we don't want to be exclusionary. Thus,
[8:42] we've excluded everybody. I guess it
[8:44] could be an optin if if those who have
[8:47] owned businesses want people to know
[8:48] they have them
[8:50] >> and and I think it's something that we
[8:52] could look at. But what this is saying
[8:53] is that that we're we do this and we
[8:56] don't
[9:02] » I mean it's public record who has a
[9:04] permit, right?
[9:05] >> I I don't think it means that we're
[9:07] doing it.
[9:08] >> Yeah, I think it that's how I read it
[9:11] completely. the city can promote local
[9:13] services. Not that it is from doing
[9:16] that.
[9:18] >> Well, it says we actually recognize the
[9:21] value of celebrating
[9:23] >> by voluntarily publishing
[9:28] » publish and nor would we because
[9:35] » let's take that sentence out.
[9:36] >> Where do we take Yeah. Where do we draw
[9:37] the line in what we are going to publish
[9:39] and not publish? And then we're
[9:41] >> is the business permit public record
[9:44] >> that people could just they could just
[9:46] look it up and see.
[9:48] >> I think you go like this.
[9:51] >> Do our home businesses want to be
[9:53] recognized?
[9:55] >> Go back and do what you just did.
[9:57] >> I have a massage clinic. Do I want it
[9:59] recognized?
[10:00] >> I don't know. It depends on who's giving
[10:02] the massages
[10:02] >> and what kind it is. I mean I would
[10:06] >> well and the illegal Airbnbs. Are we
[10:08] going to promote the illegal Airbnbs?
[10:11] >> So additionally
[10:14] >> the value of celebrating local
[10:16] entrepreneurship the city can promote
[10:18] local services or the city may
[10:22] >> yeah may
[10:23] >> may
[10:24] >> um promote local services and help
[10:26] neighbors support one another.
[10:28] >> Yeah. Um, this effort not only
[10:30] encourages commerce but also strengthens
[10:33] the community's social fabric.
[10:35] >> Like that.
[10:39] » Look at Brian. He's like a book editor.
[10:42] >> I I've got a ton here, guys. I'm sorry.
[10:45] I This thing read awful to me. A lot of
[10:48] it.
[10:48] >> Hell at night. He has time.
[10:51] >> Oh, no. This was This was all in the
[10:53] last couple of hours because I'm trying
[10:55] to rush through it because I've been too
[10:57] busy.
[10:59] Keep going.
[11:00] >> Keep going.
[11:01] >> All right. The next section it says,
[11:03] "Community events such as Woodland Hills
[11:06] Days in Maple Fest play a unique and
[11:09] important role in the city's economic
[11:11] development." Really?
[11:16] Come on, folks.
[11:19] Well, uh I'm pretty sure the word there
[11:23] is we do sell booth opportunities. No,
[11:27] we don't.
[11:27] >> Yes. But it's not an important role in
[11:30] any way, shape, or form.
[11:33] >> Play a unique and important role in the
[11:36] city's
[11:37] >> culture. Yeah. City's culture.
[11:39] >> It's it's a unique but it's important to
[11:43] the city's economic development. So,
[11:45] yes, I I love that page. Thank you.
[11:47] >> Culture.
[11:49] >> I don't know how to word it, but I know
[11:50] it's not working.
[11:52] >> How about that?
[11:53] >> Yeah. City's culture.
[11:58] Next.
[12:00] >> Uh, if you go down a couple sentences,
[12:02] traditional commercial and retail, local
[12:05] events that generate, get rid of that
[12:10] >> that generate
[12:13] >> local events generate value by drawing
[12:16] visitors and creating opportunities. Not
[12:18] local events that generate value. I
[12:20] that's how I read it. So,
[12:23] >> saying take the that out.
[12:25] Did you put the that in?
[12:27] >> Uhuh.
[12:28] >> Oh, okay.
[12:30] >> We don't want to offend you if these are
[12:31] your edits and he's
[12:32] >> I did not edit anything. I am a
[12:35] >> I am a graphic designer only in some
[12:38] regards.
[12:41] This is a planning commission document,
[12:43] a community development document and a
[12:45] city
[12:46] >> generate value by drawing visitors and
[12:48] create opportunities. Okay. So, you will
[12:49] continue to promote. Keep going.
[12:51] >> Okay. Okay, the next one I have is uh
[12:54] the next paragraph where where where we
[12:56] deleted while not an official city
[12:59] sponsored event and left an official
[13:01] city sponsored event. You don't have to
[13:03] say it because you're not saying it for
[13:06] the nail states. So Maple Fest
[13:08] highlights the city's natural
[13:10] environment.
[13:11] >> Yeah, because we already said it over
[13:13] here. That's community events and so
[13:16] yeah, I don't think you have to put a
[13:17] official city sponsored.
[13:20] I don't know how I didn't pick up on
[13:22] some of this stuff. I've read it so many
[13:23] times. But
[13:25] >> you're too you're too too close to it.
[13:28] >> Yeah,
[13:30] >> you really are.
[13:32] >> Okay.
[13:33] >> All right. Uh under public opinion. U
[13:38] >> public opinion.
[13:39] >> Yeah. The the next big section um
[13:42] instead of residents, can we just say
[13:45] respondents? because it still leans
[13:47] toward in my mind still leans towards
[13:50] all the residents when it's just it's
[13:53] the the poll upon respondents.
[13:58] >> Does anybody have any issue there?
[13:59] >> No.
[14:02] >> Um next potential I would delete new
[14:05] growth.
[14:07] So it just to bring commercial
[14:09] development into the area.
[14:14] I think though we were looking at the
[14:17] new growth area because the rest of it
[14:19] is just zoned residential. We don't have
[14:21] any space.
[14:22] >> It's it's
[14:24] not I mean it's it's already it's
[14:26] already there. It's not it's not area
[14:29] that we have got new plans for. That's
[14:31] just my opinion. We can keep it in
[14:33] there. That's just my
[14:34] >> keeping new growth in because it's along
[14:36] the
[14:37] >> near 11 to 100.
[14:38] >> Yeah. But it's still those are the
[14:40] people in people's mind. It's
[14:43] >> in my mind it's it's Woodland Hills.
[14:46] It's not
[14:47] >> we're bringing something new into
[14:49] Woodland Hills. It is the Woodland Hills
[14:51] still part of it.
[14:53] >> Yeah. But it's still considered new
[14:54] growth. It's not the people who've been
[14:56] here for 50 years.
[14:58] >> That would be a
[15:01] >> Yeah.
[15:03] >> Ted says that's a common way to do it is
[15:06] new growth.
[15:07] >> I'm fine. I'm fine. Again, I'm just I'm
[15:09] telling you my thoughts on it. Oh,
[15:11] you're good.
[15:13] >> Uh, next one is
[15:17] going down. Unless you got anything you
[15:20] got, you got yours to fill in there. You
[15:22] got some changes.
[15:24] >> We do your changes along the same as his
[15:26] changes.
[15:26] >> Yeah, we can go with that,
[15:29] >> right? But there was that one that had
[15:32] developers developments.
[15:34] >> I'm going to just make the red changes
[15:37] unless you guys disagree with them and
[15:39] we discuss them. Okay.
[15:40] >> Yeah.
[15:42] >> Okay.
[15:42] >> But I wanted to make sure you guys saw
[15:46] the community development groups.
[15:48] >> Yes.
[15:49] >> And then the planning commission's
[15:51] edits. That's what the red is saying.
[15:53] So, if you're okay, we'll we'll adopt
[15:56] the planning commission's edits unless
[15:58] you guys want the original text.
[16:02] >> I don't think I had any issue with those
[16:05] planning commission edits.
[16:06] >> Yeah. Because they're very they're very
[16:08] minor. Anything
[16:12] here, Brian?
[16:13] >> Uh, yes. The
[16:17] first full paragraph, it says Woodland
[16:19] Hill received relatively small amount of
[16:22] tax revenue. It should read of sales tax
[16:25] revenue
[16:27] because that's what we're talking about
[16:29] specifically.
[16:32] >> I'd agree. Okay.
[16:35] >> Nothing else on that page.
[16:46] I'll edit that later.
[16:50] Anything here? Anybody?
[16:52] >> All the changes to the other parts.
[16:57] >> Number two is like wiped out.
[16:59] >> What?
[17:00] >> Yep. So, this will turn into two here
[17:02] and we'll delete it.
[17:04] >> Anything here?
[17:08] rentals and the parade entry. Okay.
[17:13] >> Yeah, it does show that our revenue
[17:15] streams are very small. If it's the $10
[17:17] booth rental,
[17:19] >> it's big and buddy,
[17:22] >> mayor.
[17:22] >> Yes.
[17:23] >> Before you go on to aid
[17:25] >> Yeah.
[17:25] >> Um, there was an an insert that I
[17:30] apparently didn't provide to you.
[17:33] >> Okay. I didn't want to interrupt Brian
[17:36] there. Um, it's on page
[17:40] 75
[17:43] with a picture of the Maple Fest. It's
[17:48] under supporting local festivals and
[17:51] events as economic and social drivers.
[17:56] The insert would be between the first
[17:58] and the second paragraph.
[18:00] >> Okay?
[18:01] >> And it would read this way.
[18:03] The city is a home for a growing number
[18:06] of artists and sculptors, some of which
[18:09] have galleries outside the city. Once or
[18:12] twice a year, those who wish to
[18:14] participate host open houses to showcase
[18:18] their talents and artistic products.
[18:21] This brings both local and non-local
[18:24] individuals into the city and further
[18:27] puts Woodland Hill City on the map.
[18:32] That was discussed by planning
[18:34] commission and suggested that be
[18:35] included
[18:39] » as another type of event
[18:42] to the city.
[18:44] >> Okay, that's my technical way of saying
[18:46] that.
[18:46] >> The only thing that I was thinking
[18:48] because Woodland Hills day and the Maple
[18:50] Fest also bring thing people in from
[18:52] outside of our city. So, do we need to
[18:54] say that with this as well? I mean, do
[18:57] we need to put that part in or just that
[19:00] this is a another event that is hosted
[19:02] in our city, but we're not we don't
[19:05] sponsor that, but it does people in our
[19:07] city go to it.
[19:09] >> I think it's part of Woodland Hills
[19:10] Days, isn't it?
[19:11] >> No, they do it different times.
[19:13] >> The art festival,
[19:15] >> it's separate, but they do it with
[19:17] Woodland Hills Days often times.
[19:19] Sometimes they ch they change it around
[19:21] because it's their private thing, but um
[19:23] >> well lately they've been doing it with
[19:24] the last few years, but it's not
[19:26] necessarily a part of it. We just
[19:29] >> we just help promote it and advertise
[19:31] for them.
[19:31] >> But what I'm saying is I don't think we
[19:33] need the language that says people in
[19:35] and out of the city. I think we just say
[19:37] like we did the other two. Just this is
[19:39] a cultural event in the city.
[19:52] I I don't know. I think that we're
[19:54] talking about bringing visitors in for
[19:56] the other one. Why wouldn't we
[19:59] say this is, you know, and this is not a
[20:01] city sponsored one,
[20:04] >> right? But what I'm saying is that we
[20:06] don't specifically say we're bringing in
[20:08] other people on the other two.
[20:11] So if we if we are putting it in we just
[20:14] say all of them people come in
[20:17] >> right but I'm just saying we don't need
[20:19] to again specifically say for this event
[20:22] that we bring people in because it's
[20:24] already
[20:26] there.
[20:31] We don't have to say it twice.
[20:38] » Once I get it all in,
[20:41] I can take a look at it.
[20:43] >> And then you'd have to change that with
[20:44] both events. You'd have to say all
[20:47] events.
[20:50] » Could you just say events
[20:51] >> or events? Yeah.
[20:53] >> Oh, help me here. on the right that
[20:56] sentence right above envisioning
[20:57] potential commercial commercial growth
[21:00] >> uh
[21:01] >> cross out both then we can capitalize
[21:03] events
[21:04] >> and they play whatever thing
[21:07] >> yeah there you go events serve as
[21:10] >> because there's you know then there
[21:12] could be more events or less events
[21:14] >> because who's saying that your
[21:17] Santa is not an event or
[21:21] maybe some of these fire expo
[21:23] >> well and the fire expo and the trick
[21:26] trunk or treat.
[21:27] >> Yeah.
[21:27] >> All the things.
[21:28] >> Yeah.
[21:29] >> Okay. Wayne, I'll get the rest of that
[21:31] from you.
[21:34] » Okay,
[21:36] we're still good here.
[21:38] >> Yeah.
[21:39] >> Okay, let's jump to chapter eight.
[21:43] >> Chapter eight,
[21:45] >> water preservation and natural
[21:46] environment.
[21:51] » Fine. We don't have anything on this
[21:53] first part, do you?
[21:55] >> No. No, I don't. I don't for quite a
[21:57] while. Um, I think the edits were good
[21:59] and and they did a good job with it for
[22:02] the most part.
[22:03] >> Does anybody have any thoughts?
[22:05] >> Chapter 8.
[22:06] >> The spot where it says, "Did you know go
[22:08] up again?" Mayor,
[22:12] >> so I'm reading this and maybe I'm
[22:14] reading it wrong. Um, but this talks
[22:17] about the Pacin Ranger Station. Um and while it is above Woodland Hills, it
[22:24] isn't just Woodland Hills. This reads
[22:26] down there in the bold, Woodland Hills
[22:28] residents tend to use more water in
[22:30] drought years and less water in rainy
[22:32] years. Um maybe it could say local
[22:35] residents or
[22:38] area residents because this is like
[22:40] calling out Woodland Hills residents
[22:43] and I don't think that's fair.
[22:48] Woodland Hills general plan.
[22:52] >> I I I get that, but I don't what it's
[22:54] saying is the graph is telling us that
[22:57] Woodland Hills people use more water in
[23:01] the drought years.
[23:02] >> I think you don't really need to say
[23:04] >> you need to state it. That's
[23:06] >> Woodland Hills.
[23:07] >> I would say that's true for every other
[23:09] state.
[23:09] >> I think it's true everywhere. But but
[23:12] the the data that they're pulling from
[23:14] doesn't justify Woodland Hills.
[23:18] I would just take
[23:19] >> the whole sentence.
[23:21] >> Remove Woodland Hills and just leave it
[23:22] as residents tend to use more water.
[23:25] >> That's more.
[23:26] >> Yeah. What if we just delete it, Brian?
[23:28] >> I'm fine with that. But actually, I
[23:31] think it's a good point to be honest
[23:33] with you that people actually use more
[23:36] water in drought years,
[23:39] >> which makes sense.
[23:40] >> So, put it in. Well, you don't even put
[23:42] residents. You Yeah, you could just put
[23:44] people because if you're you were saying
[23:46] it it applies to everyone, not just our
[23:48] city.
[23:49] >> Residents tend to use more water in
[23:50] drought years and less water in rainy
[23:52] years, which
[23:54] >> leaving residents just because then it
[23:56] makes it
[23:57] >> Yeah.
[23:59] >> Does it need to be
[24:00] >> take this personal this plan?
[24:02] >> I'm just wondering why why why are we having it in bold?
[24:06] >> Yeah, let's
[24:07] >> like why are we calling it out as like
[24:08] an anomaly? It's a pretty big
[24:10] conservation concept, but
[24:12] >> it is a big one.
[24:13] >> No, I I guess I get it. But what we're
[24:15] saying is that we're not giving
[24:17] commentary. We're telling you what the
[24:19] data says, right? And the data is when
[24:22] it's not raining, people have to use
[24:24] more water to keep their lawns green.
[24:26] When it does rain, they don't have to
[24:27] use as much water to keep their lawns
[24:29] green. Apply that to every city in
[24:32] America.
[24:33] >> And it's true.
[24:34] >> It's true.
[24:35] >> So, I just that's why I say I don't
[24:37] understand why we're trying to say look
[24:39] Because most people won't read this, but
[24:40] they might look at the graph and then
[24:42] see the bold and say, "Oh, yeah. I'm
[24:44] using too much."
[24:45] >> What if I do that? I don't if you can
[24:46] see.
[24:47] >> I don't know. I guess I I get I just
[24:49] >> That's not always true.
[24:52] >> When you get into drought years, there
[24:53] are some communities that go into
[24:55] conservation mode.
[24:56] >> Oh, yeah. Some of our
[24:57] >> Because of the lack of water, so they'll
[24:59] actually use less water.
[25:01] >> Uh where in rainy years, sometimes they
[25:03] don't turn off their sprinklers
[25:04] >> or they forget. So, they'll use a little
[25:06] more water. So,
[25:08] I think what they're trying to say here
[25:09] is that conservation is important.
[25:12] >> Yes.
[25:12] >> And we got to keep that in mind as we're
[25:14] looking at drought years. When you have
[25:16] dry years, you should be using more
[25:17] water is the point.
[25:18] >> Sure.
[25:19] >> You should actually be cutting back.
[25:20] >> Sure.
[25:21] >> And so I think it's a it's it's a valid
[25:23] point. Whether it's cold or not is
[25:25] >> can we
[25:25] >> is up to you. But
[25:26] >> can you just use conservation, you know,
[25:30] >> you're encouraging conservation, right?
[25:32] I think they're just using the data from
[25:33] the Snowtel to say the site, the
[25:35] Snowtale site's telling us that this is
[25:38] what happens.
[25:39] >> I think there's a little bit of the
[25:40] shock. People will read it and say,
[25:42] >> "Well, that makes sense." But there's
[25:44] also some
[25:46] >> Yeah. some shock value to it.
[25:48] >> Yeah,
[25:49] >> I'm sure.
[25:50] >> Well, yeah, because you're right. Other
[25:52] cities have already put their
[25:54] conservation in in you're there's no
[25:56] watering outside at all.
[25:57] >> Since it's bolded, you're now thinking
[25:59] about it more.
[26:02] We all move.
[26:04] >> Okay. Any anything else up here?
[26:07] >> Not on that one.
[26:08] >> Okay.
[26:12] Anything here?
[26:14] >> I I do have a couple here, of course.
[26:17] >> Okay. Uh on the right, the the the page
[26:20] on on the right, 85, it says weather
[26:24] models anticipate decreased annual
[26:26] precipitation.
[26:27] That's not that's not true. It's not
[26:30] fact. Matter of fact, um precipitation
[26:34] in northern Utah for most models are
[26:37] actually showing in the future that
[26:39] we'll have higher precipitation. We'll
[26:41] have lower snow and more rain, but
[26:44] northern Utah should see higher based on
[26:46] the modeling. So that is not fact.
[26:50] >> Well,
[26:50] >> I don't know about that. We just had a
[26:52] discussion
[26:54] >> in a big water meeting today
[26:57] and the form of the way precipitation
[27:00] will be coming is is they're saying it's
[27:02] changing more grain but doesn't
[27:04] necessarily mean we're may not get less
[27:08] um
[27:11] and to me I think they're they're
[27:13] quoting weather models there.
[27:14] >> Yeah. So, I would say
[27:15] >> there's tons of them
[27:18] >> because let's check and see what their
[27:20] source is for that before we change it.
[27:23] >> Yeah, because I've got weather models
[27:25] that are showing northern Utah will see
[27:27] a slight increase in total precipitation
[27:30] and southern a slight decrease.
[27:32] >> You talking just this year?
[27:34] >> No, this is future. This is this is 10
[27:37] year future. Uh, Brian, I think that I
[27:40] mean that data center up north is going
[27:42] to change that because it's going to
[27:44] generate a bunch of heat.
[27:45] >> Yeah, I think I think let's let's
[27:47] confirm
[27:48] >> it's going to change that
[27:49] >> because I think that it's a valid point.
[27:53] >> I I I can understand that, but I don't
[27:57] want to say that this is a fact when
[28:00] there are conflicting.
[28:02] >> Let's find out. They got their data
[28:04] first and then then that'll help us.
[28:06] Somebody online has their hand raised,
[28:08] but you can't see it. So,
[28:10] >> I don't
[28:11] >> I'm not taking comments right now.
[28:13] >> Okay.
[28:18] >> Um, so on the next paragraph, the
[28:22] decreased usage.
[28:24] Um, back up there. So, it says
[28:29] reductions in lot and household size
[28:32] including multif family de development.
[28:35] um as one of those points. I don't know
[28:37] that that's really on the table. Is that
[28:38] on the table for the rest of the the
[28:41] council multif family developments and and smaller lot sizes than we have?
[28:46] I don't I don't feel that's the case. I
[28:48] think that should not be there.
[28:50] >> I don't think that will decrease usage
[28:52] either. the more homes you sl
[28:55] >> it does because you're you get multif
[28:58] family homes and and the you know the the
[29:04] Ted you know the the numbers if you if
[29:06] you have multif family homes like the
[29:08] outside the the landscaping
[29:11] is the same as one as a single family
[29:13] home and you've got more populace in it.
[29:15] So it actually does reduce and smaller
[29:18] lot sizes produce more. So,
[29:22] >> I don't think that applies to Wooden
[29:23] Hills, though, because I don't think
[29:24] >> I don't either. I think it should be
[29:26] deleted.
[29:27] >> Our larger lots actually end up using
[29:30] less water because we're not watering
[29:32] them.
[29:33] >> We're not Well, we are not um you know,
[29:36] at the top half is are not uh
[29:39] landscaping and and planting grass on
[29:41] their whole one or two acres. Now, down
[29:44] below
[29:46] where
[29:46] >> it has one or two acres down below,
[29:48] >> but down below right now, that's zoned
[29:51] ar um agricultural right now, but it
[29:54] could change to something else depending
[29:56] on what somebody does. And if it is,
[30:00] because it's flat with no trees, people
[30:02] would tend to put in grass. So, if we
[30:05] did ever make those, if the landowner
[30:07] petitioned to have smaller lot sizes, um
[30:10] we wouldn't want you we wouldn't we
[30:12] couldn't say you can't plant grass
[30:14] because we wouldn't want weeds there
[30:15] either. So, it's a potential I I think
[30:19] that there is a potential for us someday
[30:21] to have smaller lot sizes or andor
[30:24] depending on zoning of the state if they
[30:27] ever require that. I just I mean I don't
[30:30] think that we'll do multifamily
[30:32] development, but I don't know. We might
[30:35] have a twin home or something. I don't
[30:37] know. Or or if they do a community.
[30:40] >> I I don't know about the rest of the the
[30:42] council, but I wouldn't vote for it. Um
[30:45] period.
[30:46] >> So, in my mind, neither one of those are
[30:49] on the table.
[30:50] >> Yeah. I I I would think about it a
[30:52] little bit because sometimes we I was in
[30:55] a three-hour water South Utah County
[30:58] water planning meeting today and uh
[31:02] something that continually came up is
[31:03] policy changes that sometimes we don't
[31:05] have effect on or we don't have control
[31:08] of,
[31:09] >> right?
[31:11] >> That was a big discussion. Hey, now
[31:12] people start adding second houses
[31:14] basically to their lots that's got to be
[31:16] serviced with water. that basically
[31:17] changes the whole game for water usage,
[31:20] right? So, what what I think we got to
[31:22] be careful of is remember this is a
[31:24] general plan that thinks about the
[31:26] future
[31:28] and I think we want to make sure that
[31:30] what we have in here is
[31:34] certainly guiding our direction but not
[31:36] closing the doors on things that could
[31:38] happen that we may not have control on
[31:40] because we want to keep those in mind
[31:41] and keep thinking about them. Now, um
[31:45] reductions in lot household size, you
[31:46] know, that's probably going to we'll have some control over that. Um
[31:50] what lot sizes we allow and multif
[31:53] family development for now that stuff,
[31:56] you know, that that we we have control
[31:58] over, but you don't know what could
[32:00] change. And and I think as as we go
[32:03] about the future, we just want to think
[32:04] about that. Keep that in mind that
[32:06] sometimes we don't always have control
[32:08] over what we're asked to do. And we want
[32:10] to make sure we're planning for that
[32:11] because like I said, that's what came up
[32:13] today in our meeting was
[32:15] >> now we're dealing with ADUs and that
[32:17] basically adds a whole another water use
[32:18] to our lots. And so what plans we've
[32:21] made historically just go out the window
[32:23] now and now we got to start over
[32:24] >> because even if you have one acre, you
[32:26] have your house, you have an ADU that's
[32:29] 1,000 square feet or whatever, that's
[32:31] almost like having two homes on half
[32:34] acre each. And so it's it's not although
[32:38] it's technically still one acre lot,
[32:40] it's two halfacre lots.
[32:43] >> I guess to Brian's point, and I agree
[32:44] with him and make sure I say this right,
[32:47] Brian, this is saying a decrease usage.
[32:50] So a strategy in decreasing the water
[32:53] usage. This is saying by us reducing lot
[32:58] size and household size,
[33:02] you know, including multifamily
[33:04] development and you're saying actually
[33:06] by adding by decreasing lot size, let's
[33:09] say by adding an ADU because we're
[33:11] saying now putting
[33:12] >> decreasing that's keeping the same lot
[33:14] size by by
[33:16] splitting it quote unquote. We're not
[33:18] going to actually subdivide it, right?
[33:20] There's still going to be the same plot.
[33:22] I'm just saying this doesn't say what I
[33:25] feel you just said.
[33:26] >> Well, so studies show that reducing your
[33:28] lot sizes and household sizes do
[33:30] decrease water usage
[33:31] >> because you're only going to have maybe
[33:32] two bedrooms or three bedrooms and not
[33:34] 10.
[33:36] >> That statement is is has has backing to
[33:39] it. I mean, it's not additional fill. It
[33:41] has backing hills.
[33:43] >> Um I don't know. Maybe maybe not.
[33:46] >> We're dropping it on
[33:49] >> again. is the general plan
[33:51] >> natural brush. So all we actually did
[33:54] was increase the water usage because now
[33:57] we have a house there that's going to be
[33:58] using water. Before that land didn't use
[34:01] water,
[34:02] >> right? Cuz we now if we put it on a lawn
[34:06] where a lawn used to be, yes, we are
[34:08] going to decrease farm
[34:10] >> or a farm which is what we've got all
[34:12] that
[34:12] >> 11200 is all farmland.
[34:14] >> Smaller lots and household smaller
[34:16] households will decrease usage because
[34:17] of watering egg land. So
[34:19] >> yeah. Okay.
[34:21] >> Whether you put it in there or not, it's
[34:22] up to you guys. I'm not I'm just trying
[34:23] to
[34:23] >> I think we should keep it.
[34:25] >> The home keeps a huge
[34:26] >> be careful about considering everything
[34:28] today that we're doing when you're
[34:29] looking at a general plan
[34:30] >> because also this also helps us in
[34:32] another way. Although we might never do
[34:34] it um because it's in the plan and if
[34:38] somebody meaning the legislature says,
[34:41] "Well, you guys don't even allow this."
[34:42] We can say, "Well, our general plan says
[34:44] that if in the future this is comes, we
[34:47] we're ready." But it's not now. We We
[34:50] all know it's probably never gonna
[34:52] happen, but at least we can show that we
[34:54] thought about it.
[34:56] >> Yeah.
[34:57] >> Right.
[34:57] >> Yeah. But someone could come to us and
[35:00] say, "You guys said you were going to
[35:03] consider lopsid reductions to reduce
[35:06] water usage." And so I've been forced to
[35:10] vote certain ways because of what's in
[35:11] the general plan. And I think this is
[35:13] wrong. I'm not going to I do not want to
[35:16] use lot size or multif family
[35:18] development to to adjust or to decrease
[35:21] water usage. I I don't want
[35:24] >> I don't think that I don't know how to
[35:28] say this.
[35:28] >> They don't have a choice.
[35:31] >> I don't disagree. But if if it's not in
[35:33] there and the state regulates that we
[35:35] have to do it, that doesn't say that
[35:36] we're not going to do it because it's
[35:38] not in our general plan.
[35:40] But Ryan, we also can't function out of
[35:42] fear of afraid of what somebody might
[35:45] say or what might somebody might object
[35:47] to. We have to do we have to do what's
[35:50] best.
[35:51] >> Well, and I think that having it in
[35:54] there shows that we have good faith that
[35:55] we're thinking of the future whether or
[35:57] not we do it or not. It doesn't mean
[35:59] that we have to zone right now. Any
[36:03] homeowner can come to us and request a
[36:05] change in zoning.
[36:06] >> Keep in mind this is this is something
[36:08] we're not saying we're doing. Yeah,
[36:10] we're not. It's just
[36:10] >> ideas on they're giving us ideas on how
[36:13] we can decrease water usage,
[36:14] >> right?
[36:15] >> So, as we start looking at all the ways
[36:17] in
[36:19] >> how we decrease our water usage, this
[36:21] may be something they'll be looking at that time.
[36:23] >> Is this not a plan?
[36:24] >> It doesn't commit us to anything. It's
[36:27] just saying some ideas on how you can
[36:29] decrease your water usage.
[36:30] >> And conservation right now is a huge
[36:33] topic in our state. It's
[36:35] >> I I understand that, but this is a plan.
[36:38] This is a city's plan. And if it says I
[36:41] plan to reduce water usage by reducing
[36:43] lot size and and allowing for multif
[36:45] family homes,
[36:46] >> say that it doesn't say that. This is
[36:49] factors
[36:50] >> to decrease.
[36:51] >> These could impact.
[36:54] >> Okay. I'm not saying not going to vote
[36:57] for this, but they leave it in there.
[37:00] I'm giving you my opinion.
[37:02] >> Love it. Okay. Let's keep going though.
[37:06] Okay. anything here.
[37:08] >> Yeah. Number four, the when we've got
[37:13] install drip irrigation, replace
[37:15] Kentucky blueg grass. Now, if this is
[37:18] stuff that the city's going to do, then we need to decide for that. If if
[37:22] it's encouraged like the first point
[37:26] was, then I say we say encourage on all
[37:28] of these.
[37:31] The first sentence says the city make um
[37:35] it well it says what does it say
[37:37] >> can take it doesn't say it has to take
[37:40] it just these are some
[37:42] >> ways ideas
[37:44] >> it just says
[37:46] >> right here
[37:47] >> they're bullet they're bullet points
[37:48] they're independent one of them says
[37:50] encourage local
[37:52] >> the very top line the top line
[37:55] >> I know
[37:57] >> switch it to me
[37:57] >> it says methods of reducing water. So,
[38:00] it's just giving suggestions of ways
[38:02] that people can reduce water,
[38:06] >> but I'm looking at that particular one.
[38:09] says reduce water
[38:11] used for landscaping. Encourage local
[38:13] scape or zeroscape landscaping.
[38:16] >> Then it says install irrigation systems,
[38:19] not encourage installing drip irrigation
[38:22] systems. Says replace Kentucky
[38:24] bluegrass. So, that is the city going to
[38:26] do that or are we going to encourage
[38:28] people to replace? Is it suggesting?
[38:31] >> Listen, you're not It needs to be It
[38:34] needs to be the same format.
[38:37] >> I think it is.
[38:38] >> One of them says encouraged and they all
[38:40] should be encouraged.
[38:44] » I just think that this is a list of
[38:46] ideas that citizens may or may not use.
[38:50] And if we get to a point where we're
[38:52] required to
[38:53] >> That's not how it reads, Carrie. It
[38:55] reads that we're going to encourage
[38:57] people to do one of them and the rest of
[38:59] them we're going to do.
[39:00] >> Yeah. I I think maybe the fastest way I
[39:03] think I hear what you're saying, Brian.
[39:04] Maybe what we do is we just put um in
[39:07] the top says reduce water usage for
[39:09] landscaping, you can just put methods to
[39:13] reduce water used in landscaping and
[39:16] then remove the word encourage on that
[39:18] first bullet uh first bullet and just
[39:20] put local escape. And then that way
[39:22] those are all ways that you can reduce
[39:25] water.
[39:26] >> We have methods. The the very first word
[39:29] of this whole thing is methods of
[39:30] reducing water. So all of them are
[39:32] methods.
[39:33] >> Yes.
[39:33] >> Yeah. But one of them is doing something
[39:35] and one of them is encouraging other
[39:37] people to do something. Carrie
[39:40] >> about the main title the main title of
[39:42] the whole
[39:42] >> not hearing me.
[39:45] >> Okay. I'm sorry.
[39:46] is saying you're going to encourage
[39:49] residents to do something. And the very
[39:51] next point
[39:53] >> says you're going to do something. It
[39:55] didn't say encourage. Now it now
[39:59] >> now it's a possible
[40:02] >> for interpretation.
[40:03] >> Yeah.
[40:04] >> Well, yeah, it's English.
[40:08] >> So, exactly. And we're saying up here at
[40:10] the beginning it says
[40:12] >> I get that. I get
[40:14] >> these five bullet points are actions the
[40:18] city may take
[40:20] thus making them all
[40:23] possible things we could do though not
[40:26] required
[40:28] >> at this point they're not required but
[40:30] they could be required I mean the state
[40:32] >> they're required
[40:34] >> in the future
[40:35] >> does this does this help right number
[40:39] >> thanks
[40:41] >> this water used for landscaping ing
[40:44] local scape.
[40:46] >> Install drip replace Kentucky reduce. So
[40:50] they're all now possible.
[40:51] >> So that meets your point.
[40:54] >> Perfect. Okay. Next.
[40:57] >> Good job, man.
[40:59] >> Well, we're I love
[41:03] keep it going.
[41:06] Um
[41:09] so in number six it talks about review
[41:12] ordinances policies about street trees
[41:15] to ensure it promotes water efficient
[41:17] and native tree. We don't have street
[41:19] trees. Matter of fact we require people
[41:21] to prune them back a certain distance
[41:24] for our code. I don't know that that's
[41:27] necessary.
[41:29] >> Keep in mind we still haven't completely
[41:31] developed. So
[41:32] >> yeah,
[41:32] >> that's that is true.
[41:34] >> As we continue to build,
[41:35] >> we could Yeah, we could do somewhere we
[41:37] could do
[41:39] >> we don't have them now, but it could be
[41:40] something we could have future.
[41:44] >> On the base, the bottom might require
[41:46] get to get a few trees. Who knows?
[41:49] >> You're right. 100%. I agree with you.
[41:52] >> Next.
[41:55] » I'm way down now.
[41:58] >> Perfect. Anybody else here?
[42:12] Okay. Anything on this page?
[42:15] >> I do not.
[42:21] » We don't want to ring the bell on nice
[42:23] sky.
[42:26] » Sorry, couldn't resist. Anything here?
[42:30] Um,
[42:32] >> it says night.
[42:34] >> Not that one. Wait, this looks
[42:36] different.
[42:39] >> Where's the chipper day section?
[42:43] >> Is it further down?
[42:46] » Awesome.
[42:47] >> Yeah, maybe I'm much further down. Okay.
[42:50] >> Chipper days.
[42:51] >> 91.
[42:52] Yeah.
[43:01] Okay, here's 91.
[43:04] » No, it's right here.
[43:09] » So, it has shifted. Format's shifted on.
[43:11] >> Yeah, something something shifted on it.
[43:14] >> Yeah, this is
[43:16] >> Oh, go up maybe then.
[43:20] >> Where'd it go? Or did it get deleted?
[43:24] It's probably covered by your
[43:28] >> wildfire mitigation objectives and
[43:29] strategies.
[43:30] >> It should be right above there. It's
[43:31] just missing.
[43:35] » So my question is and and this applies
[43:38] to that and the little chart there. So
[43:41] it says that we
[43:43] host annual community days, which we do,
[43:45] but what happens if we don't get the
[43:47] grants that we use for that or have
[43:49] extra funds to do it in the future? We
[43:52] wanna
[43:54] kind of word it as, you know, does our
[43:56] best to host tipper days.
[44:00] Um, and Ted, I'm that gonna kind of lean
[44:03] towards you because you get the grants
[44:05] for that. Um,
[44:09] » well, so it's it's it's a it's actually
[44:12] a county thing. You don't it's tipper
[44:15] days is something they come and do. It's
[44:17] not granted yet. They're
[44:20] CWP funding.
[44:22] Um,
[44:24] so I mean it's saying Wooden Hill hosts
[44:28] Kernese, which is a present tense
[44:30] verbiage, which is not untrue. We do
[44:33] host. Um, but if we want to change it to
[44:38] when the nails may host days, that'd be
[44:40] fine with me. I
[44:42] >> I just want I don't want to tie it tie
[44:44] us into something that that we feel that
[44:47] we don't have the funding for. Does that
[44:48] make sense? That's I'm just kind of
[44:50] concerned with that.
[44:52] >> I think it's a present day or present
[44:54] tense verbiage meaning we do.
[44:57] >> Uh I don't know that commits us to the
[44:59] future, but if you want to book May,
[45:02] that's fine, too. Does it help with our wildland interface ordinances
[45:06] and this the new law that just came out
[45:08] from the state to to have that as as
[45:11] listed so that um that helps with their
[45:15] formulas or anything that we actually
[45:18] are actively mitigating
[45:24] because I know that the insurance
[45:28] » but it doesn't uh it's not going
[45:32] start mapping because we're gay.
[45:34] >> Yeah. As long as it doesn't lock us into
[45:36] anything.
[45:37] >> Well, Brian, the old plan has a a trail
[45:40] all around the city that doesn't exist.
[45:42] Bunch of other things. So,
[45:45] >> I haven't had to vote on that. I don't
[45:48] >> none of it locks us in. I don't think
[45:51] >> these are all ideas to think about as we
[45:53] grow in the future.
[45:53] >> They're just things we want. This is
[45:55] like a wish list. I like that we have it
[45:58] in that we have chipper days because
[46:00] we're not going to be here forever and
[46:02] it helps people as they come in to
[46:04] recognize that this has been a
[46:06] longstanding tradition
[46:09] for over a decade or so that that we've
[46:12] done this and we wouldn't want to just
[46:15] say well it was a May because our
[46:17] residents kind of count on it and we us
[46:22] when I mean Ted usually figures it out.
[46:25] >> Yes. But what happens when Ted's not
[46:28] here and the city is is is in a dire
[46:32] straits with money and and that's what
[46:35] I'm that's what I'm asking. I I get if
[46:37] Ted says it's not locking us in, I'm
[46:39] happy with that. But if we're not in a
[46:43] spot where we do it,
[46:45] >> I think it's a present tense verbiage.
[46:46] It's saying we currently do.
[46:48] >> I don't know about the grants.
[46:51] >> I don't like the part about the grants.
[46:52] I just think may
[46:54] >> Yeah. Because it's not really a grant
[46:55] that we get to do this. It's just
[46:57] collaborating with the county.
[46:59] >> If we stop doing it, we amend the
[47:01] general plan.
[47:02] >> Yeah.
[47:04] >> It doesn't lock us in anything. Like I
[47:06] say, I I would say there's a lot of
[47:08] things in the old general plan that
[47:10] never came to fruition. It's a wish
[47:12] list.
[47:12] >> And that's why we want to do the
[47:14] strategic plan along with it so that
[47:15] there's actionable items associated with
[47:17] this.
[47:19] you into something then
[47:21] >> which I think in some cases
[47:25] >> that's good
[47:27] >> strategy that tells you how
[47:28] >> anything here
[47:31] >> these goals
[47:32] >> is the developments is that I mean well
[47:36] again I'm not I'm not against cluster
[47:38] developments but I guess this just is
[47:41] consider I mean when we say consider
[47:44] them I guess that's if someone brings it
[47:46] to us. Yes.
[47:51] Where are you?
[47:52] >> That would most likely be
[47:54] >> number one be be number one right there.
[47:56] So it says consider cluster developments
[47:59] or conservation easements.
[48:02] I don't
[48:04] >> it's not our land
[48:05] >> a development agreement too because you
[48:08] know like Summit Creek they have areas
[48:10] that are clustered um smaller lot size
[48:13] clustered even though their overall
[48:15] density remains the same. So that that
[48:18] might be what it's like is if we
[48:21] consider having like all along 11200
[48:25] maybe we would do more clustered so that
[48:27] it's just not all one big lawn area
[48:31] >> and consider is an extremely loose term.
[48:33] >> Yeah,
[48:34] >> that what I'm I'm I'm kind of rereading
[48:37] there. Um
[48:42] » and we we have discussed a conservation
[48:44] easement for the uh switchbacks.
[48:51] » Okay. Any issue here with these goals?
[48:55] This goal three A and B.
[48:59] Nope.
[49:01] Okay. Chapter nine. One. Two more to go.
[49:08] anything there.
[49:09] >> You need a new sign.
[49:11] >> Yeah. Um
[49:15] >> I was an Eagle Scout project.
[49:17] >> I know, but those don't last forever.
[49:20] >> I think it's like 25 years. 20 years
[49:22] old, isn't it?
[49:23] >> Yeah. It's just old.
[49:26] >> Okay.
[49:27] The
[49:29] nine. Yeah, they're on the on the left
[49:32] under existing conditions. Um, can we
[49:35] add volunteers into the group? So, it
[49:37] says
[49:39] relies on a combination of municipal
[49:41] systems, private enterprises, and
[49:44] contract services, but we also rely on
[49:46] volunteers as well. I think that's
[49:47] important to put that in there.
[49:55] » Page 96.
[49:56] >> Yeah, I'm just looking I see volunteers
[49:58] later, so by that, but I see where
[50:00] you're putting that in.
[50:02] >> Yeah. And then the city provides some
[50:03] sewing sewer
[50:06] and whole culinary. I don't know how,
[50:08] you know, I don't want to I don't know.
[50:11] That's not a big deal. That was just
[50:12] some points there.
[50:21] » Okay.
[50:26] » I don't have anything tell emergency
[50:27] services, so you got a minute.
[50:30] >> Okay. Anything here from
[50:33] the three of you?
[50:37] >> Yeah, this is pretty um generic.
[50:39] >> Yeah.
[50:40] >> Okay.
[50:41] >> Except for Yeah.
[50:48] » Emergency services,
[50:51] >> right? It says seeking to replace
[50:55] vehicles every 15 years and and 10 years
[50:59] and
[51:01] That's and we just replaced we just got
[51:04] rid of an engine. So I would say seeking
[51:07] to maintain a certified first response
[51:09] fire engine.
[51:13] » Well, isn't that some of your your
[51:15] language too, Ted, about when to replace
[51:17] them? Just so that people are aware more
[51:20] of a timetable like because we don't
[51:23] know that it needs replaced until the
[51:24] fire chief starts mentioning it. But if
[51:27] it's in the plan that you can say oh
[51:29] about every 10 years or whatever they
[51:31] do. What wasn't that suggested?
[51:33] >> You can say you can say 10 years.
[51:36] >> What I suggested was that we what when I
[51:39] talked to Daniel about said we replace
[51:40] these to comply with NFPA. Y
[51:43] >> which is generally every 15 years.
[51:45] >> Yeah.
[51:48] >> So we can just be put between vehicles
[51:50] in every put generally.
[51:54] Is
[51:54] >> that a double L or a single L?
[51:57] Mayor.
[51:57] >> Yes, sir.
[51:59] >> Go back. I think it's a misstatement
[52:01] here. Under internet service,
[52:03] Summit Creek is serviced by Century
[52:06] Link, not Centric.
[52:09] >> Yeah.
[52:12] >> What page is that?
[52:13] >> It's on page 98.
[52:16] >> Is all Summit Creek
[52:18] >> right there. They're not ser.
[52:20] >> No, Summit Creek all has Centric.
[52:23] >> They are.
[52:23] >> Yeah. Their whole entire development is
[52:26] Centric comp.
[52:26] >> Okay. My mistake.
[52:28] >> But page 27, you refer to GPS tracking
[52:31] as well. We don't have GPS tracking
[52:34] >> right here above the I saw it.
[52:36] >> That's a Yeah, and I read that too.
[52:38] Look, Jody, and that is a
[52:42] >> a possibility. Those are things that we
[52:44] could think of these efforts may
[52:47] include. So, yes, we don't have it, but
[52:50] could do that again. Well, and we at one
[52:53] time thought
[52:54] >> we don't want to lock us into that
[52:55] >> that we would have that just on this
[52:57] >> may include
[53:00] >> I know. I'm just teasing you, Brian.
[53:02] >> I know you. I know you are.
[53:04] >> I'm poking you. I got to poke the bear.
[53:06] >> Once again, it's a may. It's an idea.
[53:08] Other cities do this a lot.
[53:09] >> Yeah.
[53:10] >> Helps them make more efficient. Will we
[53:12] ever do it? Likely not. But when I
[53:14] talked to Daniel about this, it was uh
[53:16] you know, we keep it in there as an idea
[53:18] for the future. But that's why the May
[53:20] is there. Don't know that we would ever
[53:22] really need it here.
[53:25] Our routes aren't that complicated.
[53:31] Just commentary on just
[53:35] this picture of the engine is 192.
[53:38] That's the one that's out the door.
[53:40] >> I don't know if you want to update it.
[53:42] >> 191.
[53:45] >> Okay. Yeah,
[53:45] >> just I mean again it's not a big deal
[53:47] that just I noticed that.
[53:50] >> Okay, Santa
[53:51] >> kissing 192 is a left.
[53:55] >> And the roundabout picture is going to
[53:56] need to be changed, too.
[53:58] >> Yeah, that's true. And the mailbox. But
[54:00] I like that angle. Did you take that or
[54:04] somebody else?
[54:04] >> I did not.
[54:05] >> He stood out in the middle of traffic
[54:06] and risked it.
[54:08] >> I just like that the mailboxes and the
[54:10] mountain and the clouds
[54:13] and flag pole. Yeah, I'm make that
[54:15] border really ugly so I remember to do
[54:17] something about it.
[54:19] >> Hey, so the the next change that I have
[54:21] in that same area there, mayor and Ted,
[54:25] you can, you know, definitely definitely
[54:27] chime in, but the way this is worded um
[54:30] says the city the city purchased a new
[54:33] engine 2023. As of 2025, the department
[54:36] owns two brush.
[54:39] This includes a heavy brush. Okay,
[54:42] that's all that's all different. So if
[54:44] you include the heavy brush, there's
[54:46] three brush trucks,
[54:49] including the heavy brush truck.
[54:51] One designed
[54:54] for extended fire operation
[54:59] in off-road areas.
[55:02] It also
[55:03] >> two brush trucks and the the water
[55:05] tender is actually the brush truck, but
[55:08] >> I know this the way it's worded and and
[55:10] you can go in and reward this all the
[55:12] way you want to. So, two brush trucks
[55:15] plus a heavy brush tender,
[55:19] not a tender. It's a heavy brush truck
[55:22] and a tender. It's also served as a
[55:24] tender.
[55:26] You could put uh this the this this
[55:29] these these I would just take out heavy
[55:32] right there. This includes brush trucks.
[55:35] designed for
[55:37] extended firefighting operations in
[55:39] off-road areas and a water tender.
[55:43] A support vehicle ignores.
[55:46] >> We have two brush trucks. This includes
[55:49] I wouldn't say brush trucks again. This
[55:51] includes truck or includes maybe
[55:54] apparatuses designed for extended
[55:56] firefighting operations in off-road
[55:57] areas and a water tender.
[56:00] >> I have no idea how to spell apparatus.
[56:02] >> Is apparatus or is it plural apparati?
[56:05] >> Don't you dare go there.
[56:11] » How do you spell apparatus?
[56:12] >> Two ps.
[56:16] A p a r a tus.
[56:21] There you go.
[56:23] Apparatuses is
[56:26] >> apparatuses designed for extended and a
[56:29] water tender. That's probably a better
[56:30] way to say that.
[56:32] >> This is the most scholastically accurate
[56:34] document ever.
[56:41] » All right.
[56:42] >> The next paragraph. And again, this is
[56:44] you can do this however you want, Chief.
[56:47] But I don't the way we this this next
[56:49] section is worded about the full-time
[56:51] crew is completely backward. The city
[56:54] employed the full-time crew to do
[56:56] wildfire mitigation around town. The
[56:58] city has an arrangement where this crew
[56:59] these crew members can be called away to
[57:01] assist national emergency wildfires.
[57:03] It's the other way. We hire we have a
[57:05] crew that can that's hired to do the
[57:08] emergency wildfires and while they're in
[57:10] town and not deployed,
[57:12] >> they do fire mitigation.
[57:14] >> Yeah.
[57:15] So just put those two sentences
[57:17] >> those two around
[57:38] city has an arrangement
[57:41] crew members can be called away to
[57:43] assist nationally on emergency
[57:45] wildfires.
[57:48] » But again, that's also local, state, and
[57:51] >> you got to leave that first sentence.
[57:53] While the city has year- round volunteer
[57:55] firefighting crews, that's got to be the
[57:56] first sentence in the paragraph.
[58:06] » Just go after firefighting, fire,
[58:08] volunteer firefighting crew. Cut that
[58:10] out. Put it as the first sentence.
[58:12] Okay.
[58:25] I've got it worded. Mayor, the seasonal
[58:28] full-time crew is employed to respond to
[58:30] local and national emergencies and
[58:33] performs mitigation efforts around town
[58:34] when they are not deployed.
[58:38] That Ted, do you like that?
[58:40] >> Yeah, that sounds good. write that up
[58:42] and send it to me.
[58:44] >> Yes, sir. I can do that.
[58:46] >> You can even just text.
[58:48] >> Yeah, I'll do that. Now, the next part
[58:50] is where it says helps cover municipal
[58:53] cost. Just delete cover of municipal
[58:57] or helps I'm sorry, helps and municipal.
[59:01] Um, this on call service covers
[59:04] municipal cost or covers cost for the
[59:07] professional crew and equipment.
[59:10] And we could even say it also brings in
[59:12] revenue at the end.
[59:15] >> How about that?
[59:17] >> That works.
[59:18] >> It doesn't always bring in revenue
[59:20] >> on call service.
[59:21] >> First year, right?
[59:23] >> We're We're in the black, sister.
[59:26] >> I know. We are now.
[59:30] » It all depends on the fire year.
[59:32] >> It depends on the year though.
[59:33] >> Yep. Absolutely. We had one year which
[59:36] was our second year actually that
[59:37] >> it was yeah there was one year that we
[59:39] weren't
[59:41] >> enough the first year that covered that
[59:43] plus more
[59:46] >> somebody didn't want to go out on fires.
[59:56] » Okay.
[59:59] Law enforcement, anything?
[1:00:05] » City buildings and property.
[1:00:11] » How about these goals?
[1:00:13] >> Yeah. Goal 3A.
[1:00:16] Number two.
[1:00:21] » So, if this isn't locking us in, wait,
[1:00:24] that's not goal three down. You're on
[1:00:27] goal two.
[1:00:29] Yeah,
[1:00:30] >> thank you.
[1:00:31] >> There we go.
[1:00:33] >> So, it says maintain a seasonal
[1:00:35] full-time wild fire mitigation crew.
[1:00:38] That isn't guaranteed. Again, TED is
[1:00:41] working hard to keep this going, but I
[1:00:44] don't want to say that
[1:00:46] we're going
[1:00:49] >> it's a goal.
[1:00:51] >> That's if it doesn't lock us in, I'm
[1:00:53] great with that's all I wanted to say.
[1:00:56] No, this is this is a goal for us to
[1:00:58] continue to maintain that full time per
[1:01:04] just wanted to double check that one.
[1:01:06] Made me nervous.
[1:01:10] » I don't think it's a commitment. It's a
[1:01:12] goal of course.
[1:01:13] >> Okay, I like it. And I that's it for me.
[1:01:16] Mayor, you guys can I'll mute myself.
[1:01:25] Jody, what do you got for me on
[1:01:26] annexation?
[1:01:29] Have you read through this?
[1:01:31] >> We've learned a lot lately.
[1:01:32] >> We've learned a lot through annexation.
[1:01:34] I have not.
[1:01:39] » Okay. Does anybody have any thoughts on
[1:01:42] chapter 10 from your guys's review?
[1:01:45] >> Well, and some of this is just based on
[1:01:47] state law anyway. So,
[1:01:50] >> it it looks like it's all state, though.
[1:01:51] >> Yeah. And it's and it's anote it's it's
[1:01:54] put in there 10-2-401.5.
[1:02:00] So I think as long as if that's ever
[1:02:03] updated, it will automatically update
[1:02:06] us.
[1:02:08] >> Okay.
[1:02:09] >> Some of it's not.
[1:02:15] We we probably need to take another look
[1:02:18] at that and we can do so as part of the
[1:02:22] public hearing
[1:02:24] uh to see if there's any misstatements
[1:02:26] in here. I quickly looked it over a day
[1:02:29] or so ago and it was generalities.
[1:02:33] Uh it wasn't specific as to processes.
[1:02:37] So I can plan to come to planning
[1:02:39] commission on that day if we need to
[1:02:41] make any adjustments.
[1:02:43] We'll present this back. There's not
[1:02:45] going to be a vote. We'll present this
[1:02:47] the changes and everything back to the
[1:02:49] council once the public hearing is held.
[1:02:53] >> Okay.
[1:02:54] Well, wonderful. Any other thoughts or
[1:02:56] comments on the general plan side from
[1:02:59] any of the council members?
[1:03:04] » Just those red lines that seemed okay
[1:03:06] when I read through them. It it's
[1:03:08] interesting because the it I feel like
[1:03:10] the chapters that are just pulled in
[1:03:11] with data don't need as much overhauling
[1:03:15] maybe as some of the other ones that we
[1:03:18] >> Yeah, there's less subjectivity about
[1:03:19] it.
[1:03:20] >> Yeah,
[1:03:21] >> they don't seem to have as much. I mean,
[1:03:23] you can't really
[1:03:24] >> And the red lines just appear to be just
[1:03:26] a clarification more than substantive of
[1:03:30] the the message.
[1:03:31] >> Seven. Number six.
[1:03:35] Um,
[1:03:37] that was pulled in incorrectly.
[1:03:41] Says the Utah code definition and then
[1:03:44] it says whose boundaries are within 1/2
[1:03:47] of the area proposed for annexation.
[1:03:49] That's not correct.
[1:03:54] » Half of the proposed for annexation.
[1:03:57] >> So is that because that's a five acre
[1:03:59] parcel. Are they saying you have to
[1:04:03] do two ac 2 and a half acres of the
[1:04:05] annexation area? So I don't think that's
[1:04:07] correct.
[1:04:08] >> It's co defining the code the state
[1:04:11] code. So maybe that's the state code.
[1:04:13] >> I Yeah, we just went over the state code
[1:04:14] with
[1:04:15] >> I've bolded this
[1:04:17] >> and so let's take a look at it as I make
[1:04:19] these edits tomorrow
[1:04:21] >> because that's one thing that I asked
[1:04:22] Daniel to do is that anything he put in
[1:04:24] here that had state code to make sure it
[1:04:27] was documented as such. Perfect. Yeah,
[1:04:30] we'll just double check it. That'll be
[1:04:31] worked out. Great. Okay, if there's
[1:04:35] nothing else,
[1:04:38] wonderful. Okay, then we're going to
[1:04:40] move on to number two. If anybody online
[1:04:42] had any thoughts or feelings during
[1:04:44] that, I'd love to take note of those and
[1:04:47] when we get to the public comment,
[1:04:49] please let us
[1:04:50] >> I had a text.
[1:04:51] >> I did, too.
[1:04:53] >> So, so you want them to say it during
[1:04:56] the public comment period. Okay.
[1:04:57] >> Yep.
[1:04:58] Wonderful. Okay,
[1:05:01] we're going to move on to number two,
[1:05:03] proposed accounting service contract.
[1:05:05] This is a discussion regarding the
[1:05:06] proposed accounting services contract
[1:05:09] with um Charlene Wild.
[1:05:13] Um this is in your packet, correct?
[1:05:16] Um we went through like I talked to you
[1:05:19] guys about this last council meeting.
[1:05:22] Um, we interviewed some fabulous uh,
[1:05:27] potential applicants for this role. Um,
[1:05:29] and it was not an easy decision, but it
[1:05:32] really just kind of boiled down to a
[1:05:35] cultural fit because their both their
[1:05:37] skill levels was exquisite. Um, and so
[1:05:41] we decided to go with um, Charlene Wild.
[1:05:45] Um, for full disclosure, I
[1:05:48] kind of have been working with her over
[1:05:50] the last four years over at the transfer
[1:05:53] station, though I'd never met her
[1:05:54] before. I just pulled the referral from
[1:05:58] them. Um, and we interviewed her,
[1:06:02] myself, Lori, Jody, Wayne. Um, sat down
[1:06:05] with all the applicants and this is who
[1:06:08] we felt would be the best fit for the
[1:06:10] city. Um, any questions on that
[1:06:13] >> or concerns?
[1:06:15] when are we just she how how many she
[1:06:18] doesn't come into the office right
[1:06:20] because she's working
[1:06:21] >> she will be coming into the office um at
[1:06:23] least once a quarter and she'd be h she
[1:06:26] says she'd be happy to join us at a
[1:06:28] council meeting here and there if needed
[1:06:31] so and she's available um and I know
[1:06:33] we've discussed this a little bit Brian
[1:06:35] in the past at our last meeting but if
[1:06:37] you guys have questions um feel free to
[1:06:40] give Lori a call first um and if she
[1:06:43] can't help then you guys are welcome to
[1:06:46] give her a call as well. She's
[1:06:47] anticipating those types of
[1:06:49] correspondence.
[1:06:50] >> Could you restate for the public record
[1:06:51] how much we're saving annually by going
[1:06:53] this route?
[1:06:54] >> Um so it's so she is an hourly waged um
[1:06:59] contract um at $95 an hour with a 2%
[1:07:03] increase for cost of living um each
[1:07:05] year. Um I talked with her and we
[1:07:08] shifted that not from her year or date
[1:07:12] of hire but that increase will happen at
[1:07:15] fiscal year. So that way it helps with
[1:07:18] the budgeting. Um so she she agreed with
[1:07:21] that logic. Um, we're going from around
[1:07:24] $150,000 with benefits, um, uh,
[1:07:28] retirement, health care, all of those
[1:07:30] different calculations adding into that
[1:07:32] $150,000
[1:07:33] down to on a high-end $15,000.
[1:07:40] So, you can kind of do that math. 120ish
[1:07:44] plus,000 savings a year from where we
[1:07:47] were to this. Now, she is not taking on
[1:07:52] 100% of the the duties that our former
[1:07:56] employee held. Um, but those duties are
[1:08:00] all being taken care of. Um, and you'll
[1:08:02] see those reflected in our next item.
[1:08:05] Uh, where there are slight bumps to
[1:08:10] um wages for those increased duties.
[1:08:15] So, any other questions there?
[1:08:18] Um, so when next time you have her in on
[1:08:20] quarterly, can it be on a day that we
[1:08:22] have council meetings so we can meet
[1:08:24] her?
[1:08:24] >> Yeah, so she's in town every twice a
[1:08:27] week,
[1:08:28] >> um, up in Oro and so she said she'd be
[1:08:31] more than happy to stop by. So great.
[1:08:34] >> Be nice.
[1:08:35] >> Just an introduction.
[1:08:36] >> So, um, call Lori first and then if we
[1:08:40] still have questions, call Charlene.
[1:08:42] >> Yep.
[1:08:43] >> But I don't want to bar you guys from
[1:08:45] calling Charlene. So, did you send us
[1:08:47] her contact information then?
[1:08:49] >> Uh, you should have it. It's also
[1:08:51] Charlenewood Hills.
[1:08:53] >> Okay.
[1:08:55] >> I got it right. I got it wrong earlier
[1:08:57] today.
[1:08:58] Okay. Then let's move on to number
[1:09:00] three. Uh, the fiscal year 2027 budget
[1:09:03] presentation. So, this is the mayor's
[1:09:05] budget for the 2027.
[1:09:08] Um, this is
[1:09:11] the document that we went that you each
[1:09:14] of you went through. um all of the
[1:09:16] different items that you selected. Um
[1:09:20] and we then went to the finance
[1:09:22] committee for two different meetings. Um
[1:09:25] and then this is what we kind of
[1:09:27] compiled
[1:09:29] um as we went through those three
[1:09:31] exercises.
[1:09:33] So there shouldn't be anything too uh
[1:09:35] crazy. I do want to make a few
[1:09:37] highlights for you guys though on things
[1:09:39] that have changed a little bit since
[1:09:43] um you guys saw this last.
[1:09:47] If you will go to
[1:09:50] >> give us the numbers. Yeah,
[1:09:51] >> exactly. Page probably there's I know
[1:09:54] there's no page.
[1:09:55] >> I was going to say there's no page
[1:09:56] number.
[1:09:57] >> So go to expenditures.
[1:09:59] Um
[1:10:00] >> it was just like 3610 or whatever.
[1:10:02] >> Yep. Let's go to account number
[1:10:05] 4
[1:10:07] 1111.6.
[1:10:10] >> Neither.
[1:10:11] >> Correct.
[1:10:12] >> Oh,
[1:10:13] >> let me actually see you in here.
[1:10:16] Well, actually, let's go to 411.10.
[1:10:20] So, this is
[1:10:22] >> what
[1:10:23] >> this is mayor and council wages.
[1:10:25] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I've actually
[1:10:28] proposed an increase um of I wish I had
[1:10:33] my notes on this um here. Let me pull
[1:10:36] these real fast so that I
[1:10:37] >> Oh, I have the old one, but it's I don't
[1:10:39] have it with me.
[1:10:40] >> I've got them right here. We should be
[1:10:42] okay. Hopefully,
[1:10:48] » Jody, off the top of your head, you
[1:10:49] remember what I did here?
[1:10:52] >> Yeah.
[1:10:56] Uh so this is a proposed increase of
[1:11:00] um 500 a month for the mayor to 600 a
[1:11:03] month. So $100 increase and for each of
[1:11:06] the council from 200 a month to 300 a
[1:11:08] month. Uh this is an increase mostly due
[1:11:11] to the fact that it has not increased
[1:11:13] for the last 12 years 13 years something
[1:11:18] along those lines.
[1:11:19] >> It's been a long while
[1:11:21] >> um
[1:11:22] >> since I moved here. It was I believe the
[1:11:25] last change was under Mayor
[1:11:30] Nile Jensen
[1:11:32] >> was a change because you went from
[1:11:36] >> stipended to salary because we had to
[1:11:39] take into consideration. So there was a
[1:11:41] slight bump but it wasn't um
[1:11:45] >> it wasn't very significant.
[1:11:48] >> It was still went like from 3 cents to
[1:11:50] two cent I mean 3 cents to 4 cents.
[1:11:52] Yeah, I think it went from like
[1:11:54] >> under Toby it went up a little bit and
[1:11:56] then under Steve it went up a little bit
[1:11:58] but not
[1:12:00] >> so that's basically what that difference
[1:12:02] is from the 18,000 to the 25,200
[1:12:05] >> still nobody's running for this office
[1:12:07] for the pay.
[1:12:08] >> No and everybody should know that when
[1:12:10] we we we pay our own travel expense and
[1:12:13] that comes out of that
[1:12:14] >> which you know doesn't last a whole
[1:12:16] month.
[1:12:17] >> Exactly. some of us throw events for the
[1:12:20] city and spend more than that.
[1:12:22] >> You'll also see an increase in the FICA.
[1:12:24] So, the next line item um from the 1400
[1:12:26] to the 1928
[1:12:28] um that's just the difference in that
[1:12:31] increase for the FICA payment. Um the
[1:12:33] next one you will see is that 411.600.
[1:12:38] Um that is the mayor's expenses and I've
[1:12:42] added $1,000 there. Now, the reason for
[1:12:45] that, so the 500 originally usually
[1:12:47] comes in a form of
[1:12:50] a a thank you bonus to our staff at the
[1:12:53] end of the year is typically what that
[1:12:55] 500 has been used for.
[1:12:57] >> Um the thousand increase is for a a few
[1:13:01] initiatives that I'm looking to start
[1:13:02] rolling out throughout the city. um
[1:13:05] which would be a thou the $1,000 would
[1:13:09] cover the costs of those uh basically
[1:13:12] dessert events for different residents
[1:13:15] throughout the city that we will rotate
[1:13:17] through. Um so that's where those
[1:13:19] expenses would be going.
[1:13:23] Any questions there?
[1:13:25] Okay.
[1:13:27] Um,
[1:13:29] council expenses we are dropping from
[1:13:33] the,000 down to the 500. That's
[1:13:36] basically
[1:13:38] um $100 each. Um, and we've really just
[1:13:43] never used it. every once in a while
[1:13:46] >> we don't use it
[1:13:46] >> cuz we also have the 300 in council
[1:13:49] discretionary that's typically used for
[1:13:52] things like um flowers sent to funerals
[1:13:56] for a family member of staff or us or
[1:14:00] whatever. Um and so you guys I want you
[1:14:03] guys to think about work together and
[1:14:07] let's use that in some capacity to
[1:14:09] benefit the residents of the city of
[1:14:11] Wooden Hills.
[1:14:14] The next thing you will see is the
[1:14:17] admin. Um, and I've I pushed these hard
[1:14:20] onto the the finance committee to take a
[1:14:22] look at and get their thoughts on. Um, I
[1:14:26] have discussed this slightly with some
[1:14:28] of the admin and some I have not. I am
[1:14:31] proposing a 2% cost of living increase
[1:14:35] um for
[1:14:38] uh Ted uh with his wage plus a 2%
[1:14:42] performance increase um for the the
[1:14:46] quality work. So it's a 4% increase
[1:14:48] total. Um that seems to be what is going
[1:14:52] on with other cities as I've spoken with
[1:14:54] them to for their compensation.
[1:14:57] Um, everybody else's is an increase kind
[1:15:00] of in a different way. Um, Jod's full
[1:15:03] budget or pay comes out of the general
[1:15:06] fund and I'm requesting a 6% raise there
[1:15:11] due to the additional duties that have
[1:15:13] been taken on
[1:15:16] um that we discussed earlier uh with the
[1:15:20] departure of our former employee.
[1:15:21] >> So, it's like 2% cost of living and then
[1:15:24] >> 4% raise,
[1:15:26] >> right? It's really a 2% increase on
[1:15:28] additional duties, a 2% increase on
[1:15:32] performance evaluation, and a 2% cost of
[1:15:34] living.
[1:15:35] >> Okay. Thanks for the break.
[1:15:36] >> Uhhuh. Um Lori, this is only 30% of
[1:15:40] Lor's wage that comes out of this um
[1:15:43] particular fund. Um, and she I'm
[1:15:47] requesting a 2% cost of living, uh, 2%
[1:15:52] performance,
[1:15:53] and then, if I do my math right, an 8%
[1:15:56] increase because she is taking on a
[1:15:59] significant amount of
[1:16:01] >> Which number is is Lor's compared to
[1:16:02] Jod's?
[1:16:04] >> This is only 30% of So, this is 50% of
[1:16:07] Ted's wage
[1:16:09] >> that's in here. 100% of Jod's wage, 30%
[1:16:12] of Lor's wage.
[1:16:15] Okay.
[1:16:16] >> 100% Jodie and 30%.
[1:16:19] >> And let's be clear, uh Lori's been doing
[1:16:22] those extra duties for a long time and
[1:16:24] not getting compensated for.
[1:16:25] >> Correct. This is somewhat of a catchup
[1:16:28] um for years of additional duties that
[1:16:31] she has not been compensated for.
[1:16:33] >> Mayor, can you give us the breakdown of
[1:16:36] where the former employees monies came
[1:16:38] from, his salaries, so that we can do
[1:16:40] that comparison as well?
[1:16:42] >> Uh yes. Yes. Um if that's okay, I will
[1:16:46] go through that as we get through the
[1:16:48] budget. Would that work for you, Brian?
[1:16:49] >> Yeah. Yeah. I just want to know where it
[1:16:50] came from so we can we can compare it.
[1:16:54] >> Yes. Cuz now I've stripped all those out
[1:16:56] of all those different accounts so it's
[1:16:59] a little more transparent for us.
[1:17:01] >> Um well
[1:17:03] say the bookkeeper also I know you did
[1:17:05] it in finance but state here how many
[1:17:07] hours she said it will do take to do the
[1:17:09] job a month. Uh, it'll take her, she
[1:17:12] said about three hours. Isn't that what
[1:17:15] you guys remember? Three to four.
[1:17:17] >> Three to four hours a month to do this
[1:17:19] to do her side things
[1:17:20] >> employee. But our our full-time
[1:17:22] employees are doing a greater chunk of
[1:17:24] it. So, that's one of the reasons.
[1:17:26] >> There is there's a lot more to it than
[1:17:28] just that. You are right. But I just
[1:17:29] wanted to like that that uh justifies
[1:17:33] the raises is what I'm is what I'm
[1:17:34] trying to say is because the employees
[1:17:36] are taking on
[1:17:37] >> so much so that the bookkeeper is only
[1:17:39] doing so many hours.
[1:17:41] >> Sorry. I just I just know the naysayers
[1:17:43] hate raises and they hate salaries. So I
[1:17:45] just want to make sure everything's laid
[1:17:47] out
[1:17:48] >> so can be understood.
[1:17:49] >> There's a massive decrease in wage
[1:17:51] expenses for the city. Yeah.
[1:17:53] >> With all these raises.
[1:17:55] >> Uh Toby 50% of Oh yes, Brian. Where is
[1:17:59] her? Are you gonna tell us where hers
[1:18:01] is?
[1:18:03] >> Which bucket it's coming out of later
[1:18:05] because it's not in professional
[1:18:06] services. So,
[1:18:07] >> and it's not in this line item. Correct.
[1:18:10] >> Okay.
[1:18:11] >> And I will once we get there, I will
[1:18:12] highlight that.
[1:18:14] >> So, 50% of Toby's wage also is coming
[1:18:17] out of here. Um, Toby, I had requested
[1:18:21] and this is actually back when you guys
[1:18:23] have already seen this. You've already
[1:18:24] seen this increase that I requested back
[1:18:26] then. This is a 2% um cost of living
[1:18:30] increase plus a 3% um performance. Um
[1:18:34] Toby has come on um predominantly his
[1:18:37] need was uh or desire was for an
[1:18:40] insurance package. Um and the wage was
[1:18:42] secondary though he was he has been an
[1:18:45] immense asset to our city and so I
[1:18:48] wanted to express our our gratitude
[1:18:50] there. he has saved us a lot of money
[1:18:53] and really increased our quality of
[1:18:55] service to our residents.
[1:18:57] Um
[1:19:00] so then if you go down FICA on the 2020
[1:19:05] or so if you look at the 4141.22
[1:19:09] that increase is just
[1:19:12] >> the equivalent increases due to the
[1:19:14] raises. Okay.
[1:19:15] >> Okay. as well as the retirement
[1:19:18] um admin health insurance. This
[1:19:21] drastically jumped from the 16,000 to
[1:19:24] the 44,000
[1:19:25] simply because I pulled it out of all of
[1:19:28] the other areas. This was
[1:19:31] articulated to combined
[1:19:34] >> used to be in streets, snowplow, wreck,
[1:19:37] parks, all over the place. And now it's
[1:19:39] just one place we can easily see it.
[1:19:42] >> Sense. Um everything else here. Um no.
[1:19:47] >> Okay.
[1:19:47] >> Was it ever in water or sewer in
[1:19:50] enterprise accounts?
[1:19:51] >> Yes. We will get there when we get to
[1:19:53] those. I'll explain those those
[1:19:54] breakouts because the
[1:19:57] >> the other 50% of Ted and Toby are in the
[1:20:00] water fund.
[1:20:01] >> Yeah. But the you were you were just
[1:20:03] saying you moved retirement to or not
[1:20:07] retirement.
[1:20:08] Yeah.
[1:20:10] health insurance to general. Were those
[1:20:13] Was health insurance ever in the
[1:20:15] enterprise funds?
[1:20:17] >> Yes. I didn't move all of it. I just
[1:20:19] moved the associated percentages.
[1:20:21] >> Just back to Okay. I just want to keep
[1:20:23] those in the the enterprise fund.
[1:20:26] >> 50% of Ted's in health insurance, FICA,
[1:20:29] everything is in the general fund. 100%
[1:20:32] of Jod's benefits are from the general
[1:20:34] fund. 30% of Lor's are in the general
[1:20:37] fund. and 50% of Toby is in the general
[1:20:40] fund.
[1:20:42] Okay. So, if we keep going down here, um
[1:20:46] if you go down to
[1:20:49] um
[1:20:52] I'm seeing it here,
[1:20:55] 4141.649
[1:21:01] » repairs, maintenance.
[1:21:04] >> Correct. Um, you will see Oh, what's
[1:21:08] going on here?
[1:21:10] I've got an error.
[1:21:13] Glad we're seeing this. That budget
[1:21:17] actually
[1:21:18] should say
[1:21:21] 134,000
[1:21:24] >> for the where it says under
[1:21:26] >> 975.
[1:21:27] Yep.
[1:21:28] >> Repeat that.
[1:21:30] >> 134,975.
[1:21:33] That's a big error.
[1:21:34] >> Yeah,
[1:21:35] >> it is a very big error, which helps me
[1:21:37] answer some questions.
[1:21:40] >> That's why we're going through this.
[1:21:43] is what happens when you spend too
[1:21:44] much time staring at the document.
[1:21:47] >> Mhm. It's true.
[1:21:49] >> Okay. Please be patient with me while I
[1:21:52] hurry and adjust that.
[1:22:00] 34
[1:22:03] 975.
[1:22:04] Now, this is all of the different things
[1:22:08] that you guys decided to vote on, mostly
[1:22:11] from Jod's request list. Okay.
[1:22:14] >> Yeah.
[1:22:15] >> Um the only thing that changed on that
[1:22:17] list that you guys voted on was a a
[1:22:21] wheelchair access ramp, which was
[1:22:24] $4,000.
[1:22:25] >> Mhm.
[1:22:26] >> Um for the center building. Okay. That
[1:22:28] includes $2500 which would be the
[1:22:31] concrete ramp and then I'm budgeting
[1:22:33] another the the difference um
[1:22:36] potentially for handrails. I expect that
[1:22:38] to come in lower but that's kind of what
[1:22:41] that will end up looking like if anybody
[1:22:43] has any issues there.
[1:22:45] >> That was a citizen suggestion, wasn't
[1:22:46] it?
[1:22:47] >> Yes.
[1:22:47] >> Well, we've been planning that for a
[1:22:49] long time. It just never were able to
[1:22:51] get it done.
[1:22:52] >> Yeah.
[1:22:53] And frankly, we need to so that we're in
[1:22:55] compliance and so we can take care of
[1:22:57] because we have residents in
[1:22:58] wheelchairs. So,
[1:23:01] >> um, okay. So, that's what that number
[1:23:04] is. Plus,
[1:23:06] I had somebody come and look at this
[1:23:08] side of the building with all the
[1:23:10] sighting problems, the leaking and all
[1:23:12] that.
[1:23:14] We're not going to be able to get away
[1:23:15] with uh some duct tape and bailing
[1:23:18] twine. Um the installation initially
[1:23:21] apparently wasn't done correctly
[1:23:23] completely and thus we're having the
[1:23:25] problems. It all has to come off.
[1:23:27] >> It was done with duct tape originally
[1:23:29] and wire it started with duct tape. No,
[1:23:32] I don't want I don't want to speak to it
[1:23:34] cuz I wasn't involved in that
[1:23:35] construction.
[1:23:36] >> It's just missing some items that
[1:23:39] >> there's some key things. So that's one
[1:23:42] of the reasons also that's a little bit
[1:23:44] >> what this is in barn raising basically.
[1:23:47] in
[1:23:47] >> well and this building is now getting to
[1:23:50] that age
[1:23:52] where things need to start being uh
[1:23:54] repaired.
[1:23:56] >> So,
[1:23:56] >> or it's going to really if you don't do
[1:23:59] it, you're going to have some really big
[1:24:00] expenses.
[1:24:01] >> Exactly. Um
[1:24:05] >> can I just say while that wish list or
[1:24:07] not wish list while that list included
[1:24:09] things there may be other things that
[1:24:11] come up that will have to take place of
[1:24:13] some of those items. We've got it today.
[1:24:16] We've got it replace um
[1:24:19] some
[1:24:21] dampers.
[1:24:22] >> Not dampers, the the transformers
[1:24:26] controlling the dampers
[1:24:28] up in the HVAC system, though.
[1:24:31] >> I spoke with him and that 5,000 in our
[1:24:33] budget may cover those things.
[1:24:36] So, he's going to give me a list of what
[1:24:40] potential repairs may be needed for the
[1:24:42] HVAC system, and we'll see if these
[1:24:44] numbers come into alignment there.
[1:24:48] Um,
[1:24:49] okay. with building.
[1:24:52] So to to your question there, um Brian,
[1:24:57] when you get to billing or building, used to have um FICA uh wages
[1:25:05] and insurance in it.
[1:25:07] >> Yep.
[1:25:07] >> Yeah. I was wondering what we were
[1:25:09] looking at.
[1:25:10] >> 4190
[1:25:11] no longer holds those wages information.
[1:25:14] >> Okay. Um, public safety still mostly is
[1:25:18] our sheriff's services from the county.
[1:25:21] Um, fire, the fire wages, fire FICA, and
[1:25:24] fire retirement um are all for the
[1:25:27] volunteer force. None of that funds goes
[1:25:30] to TED.
[1:25:32] Um, fire fuel reduction. Um, this is
[1:25:36] predominantly
[1:25:38] our crew um that we talked about during
[1:25:41] the general plan review.
[1:25:44] >> Um, 4225
[1:25:47] EMS.
[1:25:48] These wages are for our EMTs.
[1:25:52] Um, animal control. Nothing really is
[1:25:55] changing there. Please stop me if you
[1:25:57] have any other questions.
[1:25:58] >> I mean, they do raise it every year.
[1:26:00] >> Yeah, that I have to do stuff to report
[1:26:02] on tonight
[1:26:03] >> for that wage number.
[1:26:06] >> No, that's later in her report.
[1:26:08] >> Okay, perfect. If you if that number
[1:26:10] needs to go up or change.
[1:26:12] >> Yeah, it will. It does change. Okay. Let
[1:26:14] me know.
[1:26:14] >> Oh, the Well, the budget is the budget
[1:26:16] for 2025 is is what the actual is
[1:26:22] >> the actual
[1:26:27] » So, it needs to be 5,000
[1:26:28] >> for the for the shelter. Yeah.
[1:26:30] >> Not the 22200.
[1:26:31] >> Nope. Not the 2200.
[1:26:32] >> So, it needs to be 5,000.
[1:26:34] >> Okay. We'll make sure we can make that
[1:26:37] happen. Thank you. Okay. Roads. Uh so
[1:26:42] this is now 4410.
[1:26:44] Here you can see also we used to have a
[1:26:46] significant portion of wages, FICA and
[1:26:49] retirement as well. Now those are all
[1:26:52] zeros.
[1:26:55] I don't believe there's anything in here
[1:26:57] that's new.
[1:27:03] Um
[1:27:05] sanitation, snow plowing.
[1:27:10] Um, nothing really there. You'll see
[1:27:12] also parks, recreation, and public
[1:27:14] property 4510.
[1:27:17] Uh, those are also where wages, FICA,
[1:27:20] and retirement used to be.
[1:27:26] Um, and then
[1:27:28] >> and that's where you move back 50%, 100%
[1:27:31] whatever to jump a fund out of that out
[1:27:34] of those funds.
[1:27:38] » Um, yes. Yep. Thank you. Okay. So now
[1:27:42] let me give you a new number for your
[1:27:44] papers here on the very last after the
[1:27:47] transfers.
[1:27:48] So that total change in net position.
[1:27:51] >> What number?
[1:27:52] >> It needs to be 49,000.
[1:27:56] >> What total net service that line?
[1:27:58] >> No, that total change in net position
[1:28:00] right there.
[1:28:01] >> Total change in net position.
[1:28:03] >> There's nothing there right now.
[1:28:05] >> Uh flip the page one.
[1:28:08] It's right after 48.90.
[1:28:11] >> Yes. You'll see an ad 3.6 million.
[1:28:16] >> Oh, I see.
[1:28:17] >> 153 351.
[1:28:18] >> Okay. So, which one are we changing?
[1:28:20] >> 49,876
[1:28:24] » for which line?
[1:28:25] >> Right here.
[1:28:26] >> Give us the number.
[1:28:28] >> The one that's circled or the one that's
[1:28:30] underneath the total change position.
[1:28:32] Okay. So, we're crossing out the 153 and
[1:28:34] putting what? $49,876.
[1:28:40] So that is currently what we are above
[1:28:43] our expenses right now between revenue
[1:28:46] and uh
[1:28:50] um revenue and expenses.
[1:28:54] So don't get too excited about that.
[1:28:57] We've got other things that we still are
[1:28:59] waiting on from um a few different
[1:29:04] entities kind of like animal shelter.
[1:29:06] So, we'll wait and find out exactly what
[1:29:08] that
[1:29:09] >> position, but right now everything's
[1:29:11] looking pretty good.
[1:29:13] Um enterprise fund, if you jump in here,
[1:29:16] this is the water fund. There's really
[1:29:19] not much changing here. Um the only
[1:29:22] thing to uh Brian your question there
[1:29:25] for the enterprise fund when it comes to
[1:29:27] wages
[1:29:30] um
[1:29:30] >> what number are we looking at?
[1:29:31] >> 5140
[1:29:33] >> uh 6606.
[1:29:35] >> Okay, we're moving forward.
[1:29:36] >> Yeah, we're jumping ahead. So that's why
[1:29:37] I want to make sure that
[1:29:38] >> No, not not 6606.
[1:29:41] Um
[1:29:43] no, you were right. 6110
[1:29:46] >> 6110. Thank you. So 6110, you're looking
[1:29:50] at 50% of Ted's wages, 0% of Jod's
[1:29:56] wages,
[1:29:57] um 50% of Lor's wages,
[1:30:00] >> 30% of Lor's. No,
[1:30:02] >> 50% of Lor's wages and 50% of Toby's
[1:30:07] wages.
[1:30:07] >> Oh, yeah. Cuz 20 is in sewer, right?
[1:30:10] >> Yep.
[1:30:10] >> Okay. Sorry.
[1:30:11] >> No, you're good.
[1:30:12] >> I just remember.
[1:30:13] >> So, should we put Lori back on the sewer
[1:30:15] page then? She is on%.
[1:30:17] >> She is.
[1:30:19] >> Yes, I know. But should we write it in
[1:30:20] cuz you you kind of just skipped over
[1:30:22] that part. So,
[1:30:23] >> no. Sewer's next.
[1:30:24] >> Oh.
[1:30:25] >> Um, so there are two new line items in
[1:30:28] the enterprise fund I want you guys to
[1:30:30] be aware of.
[1:30:31] >> Mhm.
[1:30:32] >> That is 6605. So, actually go back one
[1:30:35] page. We we jump past it to get to the
[1:30:37] wages.
[1:30:38] >> 6605. Oh,
[1:30:40] >> 6605
[1:30:41] and 6606.
[1:30:43] These are new line items for this year
[1:30:46] and that is a $25,500
[1:30:49] payment and a $5,500
[1:30:52] payment. And those are payments due to
[1:30:55] maturity of leases for I believe that is
[1:30:58] for the chief's truck and what's the
[1:31:01] second vehicle?
[1:31:02] >> Is it the service
[1:31:03] >> service?
[1:31:04] >> And the service truck.
[1:31:06] Um, and so that's why those are sitting
[1:31:09] over here in the in the water fund
[1:31:12] simply because they operate in in both
[1:31:14] general fund capacities and water fund
[1:31:16] capacities.
[1:31:17] >> Okay.
[1:31:21] >> I really like the way this is laid out.
[1:31:24] >> Well, we'll keep getting better.
[1:31:27] If you have any more opportunities for
[1:31:29] improvement, let me know.
[1:31:32] Um, if we jump now, unless you have any
[1:31:35] questions on the water fund,
[1:31:40] uh, there's not much really new or
[1:31:42] different there. Um, if you jump though
[1:31:44] over to the sewer fund, this is now
[1:31:49] going to be
[1:31:53] » and it's behind, but it's 5150. So, it
[1:31:56] got out of order, but it's okay.
[1:31:58] >> Perfect.
[1:31:59] 5150.
[1:32:00] >> Mhm.
[1:32:01] >> The second to last page.
[1:32:03] >> Yeah.
[1:32:03] >> The last two pages.
[1:32:06] >> So 5150.
[1:32:08] >> Yeah.
[1:32:09] >> We're actually going to look at 5110
[1:32:13] 1 0 6110. Sorry.
[1:32:17] >> Yeah.
[1:32:17] >> Um that is 0% of Ted's wages, 0% of
[1:32:22] Jod's wages, 20% of Lor's wages, and 0%
[1:32:25] of Hobe's wages. And the reason we're
[1:32:28] able to break out um each of these wages
[1:32:31] into these three different funds is this
[1:32:33] is where their time basically is
[1:32:35] allocated servicing these different
[1:32:37] funds.
[1:32:38] >> Mhm.
[1:32:39] >> Um and the reason nobody else is really
[1:32:41] in the sewer is there's not much money
[1:32:43] in that account. So we have to be
[1:32:45] somewhat careful. You can see the net number on sewer is 500 or
[1:32:53] holding that
[1:32:55] >> and Lori does the billing for this
[1:32:56] section.
[1:32:57] >> $378,
[1:32:58] >> right? Lori does the billing in that.
[1:33:00] >> She does all the billing. Yes.
[1:33:02] >> Okay.
[1:33:04] So, what I will do next for this budget
[1:33:08] is I'm going to create
[1:33:11] the documents that I talked to you about
[1:33:14] each of you. And each of you I'm going
[1:33:16] to assign a different department and you
[1:33:19] will have the broken out. So the
[1:33:21] itemized pieces.
[1:33:22] >> Oh boy.
[1:33:23] >> And you'll have those once a month um in
[1:33:27] kind of like an envelope on your your
[1:33:29] desk and you'll be able to see where
[1:33:30] we're at in each area. And so you'll see
[1:33:34] when we have an expenditure, if it comes
[1:33:36] in less than the budgeted line item,
[1:33:38] you'll then see the the basic credit
[1:33:40] that we have that we can then reallocate
[1:33:42] to other items when we open budget,
[1:33:44] things like that.
[1:33:45] >> Okay,
[1:33:47] >> cool. So we each get to be a little
[1:33:48] watchdog over a section.
[1:33:50] >> Exactly.
[1:33:51] >> Okay, cool.
[1:33:54] >> And then also we're going to work on
[1:33:56] getting access for each of you in a read
[1:33:58] only capacity on the accounting system.
[1:34:01] So, if you're really interested in that,
[1:34:03] >> we can get you hooked up. If you're not,
[1:34:05] fine. But
[1:34:06] >> I think it would be good to just have
[1:34:08] >> I need to get it and I haven't done it.
[1:34:09] >> I would like to have a little overview
[1:34:11] of it.
[1:34:13] >> Yeah, it'll be
[1:34:16] there is literally nothing to hide in
[1:34:18] any of these numbers. So, ask any
[1:34:20] questions that you want. Okay. Any
[1:34:22] questions on that uh budget?
[1:34:26] >> No, it looks a lot better. It's a lot
[1:34:28] more simplified, easier to understand
[1:34:30] >> and very clear.
[1:34:32] >> Well, it helped with what you guys did
[1:34:35] in the budget process thus far. So,
[1:34:37] thank you.
[1:34:39] >> Uh Brian, any questions there?
[1:34:42] >> No, sir.
[1:34:44] >> Okay. Then we're going to go with Ted
[1:34:46] Mickelson.
[1:34:48] Engine 192 update.
[1:34:52] Oh, sure.
[1:34:53] >> Did you one of the You had no questions
[1:34:55] on any of the other accounts with your
[1:34:57] proposal.
[1:35:01] » All right.
[1:35:02] >> Went over everything.
[1:35:03] >> Didn't hear any.
[1:35:05] >> Did you have any questions?
[1:35:07] >> Just want to make sure you covered it
[1:35:08] totally. If this is your first time
[1:35:10] doing it, make sure I
[1:35:13] >> get it covered completely.
[1:35:15] >> I've been sleeping in the budget for now
[1:35:17] who knows how long. So,
[1:35:21] Uh, engine 192. So, engine 192 was sold.
[1:35:26] >> Uh, thanks to Brian's efforts in all his
[1:35:29] willing and dealing, we got a really
[1:35:31] good price for it. Uh, better, I think,
[1:35:33] than what we had thought we might be
[1:35:35] able to. And it left the city yesterday.
[1:35:38] Uh, you guys probably don't know, you
[1:35:41] may know Dora was the fire chief that
[1:35:43] actually bought that engine. So he got
[1:35:45] to drive it and load it and say goodbye
[1:35:47] and gave it a kiss and a hug and
[1:35:49] everything and
[1:35:51] um so agent 192 left the city yesterday.
[1:35:55] Uh we have been paid for the truck so
[1:35:57] that money now will be set aside for
[1:35:59] upgraded ambulance.
[1:36:01] >> Okay.
[1:36:01] >> Who who bought it? Just out of
[1:36:02] curiosity.
[1:36:03] >> It's a uh Brian, maybe you can better
[1:36:05] answer that. Oh, there you go.
[1:36:08] >> Oh, there we go.
[1:36:12] >> That's why we should put that one in the
[1:36:13] newsletter. That needs to go. Send send
[1:36:16] that to me, Brian.
[1:36:17] >> I I can do that. Well, Doro can send it
[1:36:19] to you. He's want to send it to me.
[1:36:22] Okay. So, um what the truck what what we
[1:36:25] ended up doing is I I went to multiple
[1:36:27] avenues and and worked on pricing and
[1:36:30] things like that. Um there were some companies that um will list it for
[1:36:37] you, kind of like an auto trader type of
[1:36:39] thing, but for fire trucks um they take
[1:36:41] a 10% pop. Um, and I reached out to one
[1:36:46] company is called Command Apparatus out
[1:36:48] of Pennsylvania. And what they do is
[1:36:50] they buy good fire trucks. They take
[1:36:53] them, go through them completely, get
[1:36:55] them re- ready for first line um,
[1:37:00] apparatus. So Ted can explain that a
[1:37:02] first-line apparatus has to be certified
[1:37:05] in the last 10 or 15 years and and
[1:37:09] things like that. And it helps keep our
[1:37:10] your ISO ratings down. Well, they get
[1:37:12] them reertified for that and then they
[1:37:15] resell them to to departments who are
[1:37:17] looking for um used rather than new, but
[1:37:21] new to them. Um and so that's it's going
[1:37:24] to go to another department that can use
[1:37:26] a four-wheel drive engine. Um and it's a
[1:37:30] really good engine. So we we we got a
[1:37:32] good deal out of it. Um and they took
[1:37:35] care of everything. They sent the check.
[1:37:37] We've got it deposited
[1:37:40] and as you can see here, Dorl was was
[1:37:43] able to to send it off with a kiss. Um
[1:37:47] he he had a has he is probably the most
[1:37:51] um
[1:37:52] uh
[1:37:55] attachment to that truck. I mean, it is
[1:37:57] the truck that most of us learned on um
[1:38:00] which does mean a lot to us, but but
[1:38:02] Dorl did drive it back from Florida.
[1:38:03] Spent a lot of time in that truck. So,
[1:38:05] we're I was glad that uh we thought
[1:38:08] about having him take it down to to load
[1:38:10] it up. So, that was a good it was a good
[1:38:12] thing for us.
[1:38:14] >> Thanks for that, Brian. I left a note
[1:38:16] under the passenger seat.
[1:38:20] >> Did you?
[1:38:21] >> Pleading with them to text me the final
[1:38:25] entity where it ends up because I'd like
[1:38:27] to know where it is. It's on the road to
[1:38:29] Pennsylvania right now where this
[1:38:31] company is, but it could end up anywhere
[1:38:33] in the US.
[1:38:35] >> Cool.
[1:38:35] >> And then I'll go get it and bring it
[1:38:37] back.
[1:38:40] » You are attached.
[1:38:44] » Doro is the inevitable buyer of this
[1:38:46] fire truck.
[1:38:48] >> We could have sold it. You know, we
[1:38:50] could have
[1:38:50] >> Do you directly?
[1:38:51] >> I'd had a bigger garage. Yeah.
[1:38:56] » You're still sharing, Brian.
[1:39:01] » Oh, he's getting another.
[1:39:03] >> Oh, he has a note.
[1:39:05] >> That's beautiful.
[1:39:06] >> That's it.
[1:39:09] >> Gee.
[1:39:11] >> Oh, that's great.
[1:39:12] >> I love that.
[1:39:20] » Careful sending Brian stuff. You should
[1:39:22] have put You should have put an Apple
[1:39:24] Air Tag in there. I thought it might my
[1:39:26] Jeep was
[1:39:26] >> Oh, that would have been a good idea.
[1:39:27] >> Then you could have followed it, seen
[1:39:29] where it went.
[1:39:31] >> I trust the new chief will tell me.
[1:39:35] >> Oh, it's beautiful. Thank you.
[1:39:37] >> There were teardrops on that note, so I
[1:39:39] hope that
[1:39:45] » anything else there.
[1:39:47] >> Dan Rhoden should have been with me
[1:39:49] because he rode. Yeah. It was the very
[1:39:52] first Santa on a firet truck was that
[1:39:53] year.
[1:39:54] >> Yeah.
[1:39:55] >> We got the news.
[1:39:55] >> First time the truck came to the city,
[1:39:57] he rode up the hill of Santa.
[1:39:58] >> Yeah.
[1:39:59] >> On the top.
[1:40:00] >> Yeah.
[1:40:00] >> Sweet.
[1:40:02] >> That was sweet.
[1:40:04] How beautiful. Anybody else have
[1:40:06] anything else for the fire truck 192?
[1:40:10] >> Oh, I just think that we should have a
[1:40:12] little article about it with pictures.
[1:40:15] >> I agree.
[1:40:18] >> Okay, then we'll go with number five.
[1:40:20] city grant updates. Um we'll start with
[1:40:23] you, Chief.
[1:40:24] >> Uh so the FEMA grant for our assistant
[1:40:28] firefighter
[1:40:30] uh homeland security um got funded.
[1:40:34] Therefore, FEMA got funded and I got an
[1:40:36] email over the weekend saying we should
[1:40:37] get our grant check for the assistant
[1:40:40] firefighter grant here within the week.
[1:40:42] So we hope to have that one soon
[1:40:44] finally. Okay.
[1:40:45] >> Um so we got funding for that one. Uh,
[1:40:48] we haven't heard from Burgess Owns and
[1:40:50] probably won't for a while on our Wline
[1:40:52] grant. And then the other one we have is
[1:40:54] the Utah Outdoor Recreation Grant for
[1:40:56] the pickle pickle ball court. I'll read
[1:40:58] you an email I got just late this
[1:40:59] afternoon, hot off the press. The Utah
[1:41:03] Division of Outdoor Recreation is
[1:41:04] pleased to inform you that your
[1:41:05] organization Woodland Hills has been
[1:41:07] approved to receive a fiscal year 2026
[1:41:10] community parks and recreation grant.
[1:41:12] >> What?
[1:41:14] >> Are you serious?
[1:41:16] >> That's awesome. So,
[1:41:18] >> that's incredible, guys.
[1:41:20] >> Sherry Burger, did you hear that?
[1:41:23] >> Yeah. Do you have anything to say,
[1:41:24] Sherry? I'll let you talk for this one.
[1:41:26] You did so much work on it.
[1:41:30] » Just a minute.
[1:41:31] >> She's checked out.
[1:41:33] >> She has to unmute her.
[1:41:34] >> Does it Does it give a a value already
[1:41:37] or are they going to
[1:41:38] >> Yeah, they our full request of 83,17750.
[1:41:43] >> Terry probably passed out.
[1:41:49] That's amazing.
[1:41:50] >> So that when will we be able to start
[1:41:52] that then? This this summer.
[1:41:55] >> We have 28 months to use it. We can't
[1:41:58] start until we get our contract signed.
[1:41:59] They'll be sending us a contract within
[1:42:01] the next two weeks to sign. And once we
[1:42:03] sign it and the state signs it, then we
[1:42:04] start using the funds.
[1:42:06] >> And the match will be in kind, right?
[1:42:08] >> Um
[1:42:09] >> or part of it, most
[1:42:10] >> part of it can be inind. And then part
[1:42:12] of it we have some uh balance of funds
[1:42:15] from our snow plow stuff like that we're
[1:42:16] gonna put torches too.
[1:42:18] >> Yay.
[1:42:18] >> But um
[1:42:20] >> since we didn't plow a lot
[1:42:21] >> since we didn't plow we had a lot of uh
[1:42:24] plow money left over that we can put
[1:42:25] some match towards it as well. So
[1:42:28] >> awesome. So we're so it's going to
[1:42:29] happen.
[1:42:30] >> It sounds like it's going to happen.
[1:42:31] >> Sounds like another article.
[1:42:33] >> I know. And and and requesting the the
[1:42:37] volunteer hours.
[1:42:40] Yeah. So anyway, uh that's an update on
[1:42:43] the grants.
[1:42:45] >> That's amazing.
[1:42:49] » Okay,
[1:42:49] >> that
[1:42:51] >> now you just got to get the water one.
[1:42:52] And look at you.
[1:42:54] >> Yeah, that one made me a little wild.
[1:42:56] We've also got a mag one outstanding.
[1:42:58] That one's a little less hopeful for the
[1:42:59] trail.
[1:43:00] >> Yeah,
[1:43:01] >> we're about 19th on a list of 30, so it
[1:43:05] just depends on how far the money we
[1:43:07] they ranked us. Uh well, we did a
[1:43:08] ranking and our project ranked 19th out
[1:43:12] of 30. Uh this this tends to always go
[1:43:15] more towards northern Utah County
[1:43:17] communities because they're experienced
[1:43:18] the higher growth. Um however, it just
[1:43:22] now depends on how far the money goes.
[1:43:23] So they just start with number one and
[1:43:25] they just start allocating the money
[1:43:27] till they run out and we should know by
[1:43:30] 1 of June where that ended up.
[1:43:33] >> Awesome.
[1:43:35] Okay. Well, I mean, get that man a
[1:43:38] helicopter now.
[1:43:41] >> No, that's not what we just
[1:43:45] » that was not in the budget. Sorry.
[1:43:49] >> Okay. Departmental updates. Um,
[1:43:51] community development, public works,
[1:43:53] fire department. Uh, I I don't have a
[1:43:56] lot on the community development, public
[1:43:58] works side. Um, just an FYI, we are
[1:44:00] participating. and I was in a meeting
[1:44:02] today for about 3 hours
[1:44:04] um with all of South Utah County
[1:44:07] municipalities in Central Utah Water
[1:44:08] Conservancy District. Um we are doing as
[1:44:12] a combined group a uh South Utah Valley
[1:44:16] water planning study and it's really
[1:44:19] looking at all of South Utah County out
[1:44:21] to the year 2100
[1:44:23] and what that might look like for water
[1:44:25] planning. Um so we will we're
[1:44:27] participating in that study. It's
[1:44:29] anticipated anticipated to take about a
[1:44:31] year and a half to do this study. So
[1:44:33] pretty comprehensive. Uh the hope is at
[1:44:35] the end of it when we come out of it, we
[1:44:38] actually have action items
[1:44:41] uh for our community out of this list
[1:44:43] that will help us plan for our water
[1:44:46] future. So uh working on that. Um
[1:44:51] I don't know they have a whole lot of
[1:44:52] other updates. We're still uh not
[1:44:55] certain when the paving project will
[1:44:57] start. Uh we kind of put it in their
[1:44:59] court. It'll probably be July when we'll
[1:45:01] start redoing our that phase three of
[1:45:03] the pavement project.
[1:45:06] Um that's all in the community
[1:45:08] development side. And then the fire side
[1:45:10] uh we did meet with I don't I don't know
[1:45:12] if you guys are aware, we've been
[1:45:13] talking with the state about turning one
[1:45:15] of our old still water tanks that we
[1:45:16] haven't used for years into a dip tank.
[1:45:19] Uh we there is a helell attack a fire
[1:45:21] hellet attack crew the state has
[1:45:23] stationed in Spanish fork airport. And
[1:45:26] so we met with the attack crew. We met
[1:45:28] with the state fire warden went up there
[1:45:29] and looked at it and they were just
[1:45:31] loving the idea. Uh it is also one of
[1:45:33] our um mitigation strategies we've had
[1:45:36] on a list for a long time with our CWPP
[1:45:40] uh our community wildfire preparedness
[1:45:42] plan. So we started looking at one of
[1:45:45] the old steel tanks up there uh and
[1:45:47] rather than tear it out, maybe put it to
[1:45:49] use as a dip tank. Uh everyone loved it.
[1:45:51] So I had a uh we had met with an
[1:45:53] engineer up there last week. They're
[1:45:55] going to put us together a little
[1:45:56] proposal just to see what it might take
[1:45:59] and if it is actually something that is
[1:46:01] viable. It's in good enough condition to
[1:46:03] do that. So,
[1:46:04] >> how does that work? Have like a
[1:46:05] retractable top component or
[1:46:07] >> No, really. We would just fill it in the
[1:46:10] uh it would have an open top, not
[1:46:13] closed, and we would fill it in the
[1:46:15] spring and just let the water sit in for
[1:46:17] the summer and then late fall drain it
[1:46:20] before.
[1:46:20] >> But what about leaves and things and
[1:46:23] debris that get in it? That's right.
[1:46:25] >> They're used to dipping out of legs. So,
[1:46:27] some great
[1:46:28] >> just that it fills with sediment. It's
[1:46:30] harder for us to clean up.
[1:46:32] >> So, I would suggest that you put it I
[1:46:34] have one of these on on some propert.
[1:46:36] >> They don't want a top on it at all.
[1:46:37] >> Not even a tarp just to keep
[1:46:39] >> because if they need to get into it,
[1:46:40] they're going to have to do it fast. And if the area is compromised, we won't
[1:46:44] be getting up there with their
[1:46:46] >> So, they don't want to top on it. Um
[1:46:49] >> they don't mind dipping in. I mean, they
[1:46:51] can't dip. So, what we would look at is
[1:46:53] cutting half the tank off and using the
[1:46:55] bottom half.
[1:46:56] >> Um, and they can only dip even about
[1:46:58] half of that half. So,
[1:46:59] >> okay. So,
[1:47:00] >> it's not like what we're saying is we're
[1:47:02] getting a community pool at the same
[1:47:04] time.
[1:47:06] >> And as it drains out, when it drains out
[1:47:10] every year, every every fall, um you're
[1:47:13] going to you're going to
[1:47:15] >> force a lot of that material out of it.
[1:47:17] It's a very large outpour. Um, and so
[1:47:20] it's that turbulence is going to
[1:47:21] actually move a lot of that a lot of
[1:47:23] that
[1:47:24] >> just dump out wherever you slowly go. We
[1:47:29] have some area down in there it can
[1:47:30] catch.
[1:47:30] >> Okay.
[1:47:31] >> Uh without going down the hill to
[1:47:33] residents. Yeah. It' be done over slowly
[1:47:35] over time.
[1:47:35] >> Okay.
[1:47:36] >> Just crack it. Yeah,
[1:47:38] >> this the state's talking about
[1:47:39] participating in this project with us
[1:47:41] and then also uh count it towards some
[1:47:44] of our um costs that we have to put
[1:47:47] towards um cooperative agreement we have
[1:47:49] with the state um that we have to match
[1:47:52] do we have to have some inind uh dollars
[1:47:55] every year and we usually do that with
[1:47:56] chipping or citizen time or whatever our
[1:47:59] wildland crew this would also count
[1:48:01] could count towards that they would give
[1:48:02] us credit for that plus they would help
[1:48:04] participate in the cost if it is used
[1:48:06] you know they would pay for the water
[1:48:07] and that kind of stuff. So, it it's
[1:48:10] really not I think it's a value to our
[1:48:12] community that's a a very low if at any
[1:48:14] cost at all.
[1:48:15] >> Okay.
[1:48:16] >> A little bit of time to fill it and
[1:48:17] empty it.
[1:48:18] >> Yeah. How many gallons? Like do you
[1:48:20] anticipate half of a half of a tank up
[1:48:22] there?
[1:48:23] >> So, the tank is a 200,000 gallon tank.
[1:48:25] So, if we cut it in half and fill it to
[1:48:27] be,000 gallons,
[1:48:28] >> but you're going to cut it but it's you
[1:48:30] cut it in half. You don't fill it all
[1:48:31] the way. You fill half of the half.
[1:48:32] >> No, we would fill it all. fill that half
[1:48:35] so they have a little room to dip and we do have a sediment way for
[1:48:39] sediments to sell out a little bit stuff
[1:48:40] like that
[1:48:41] >> and but but we don't know yet. That's
[1:48:44] kind of what we're looking at with the
[1:48:44] engineers is doesn't can we cut it off
[1:48:47] because you lose some of that structural
[1:48:48] integrity roof off. So
[1:48:50] >> can we cut it off? If we can what level
[1:48:52] should we cut it off?
[1:48:53] >> Um would it require some additional
[1:48:55] reinforcing around it somehow if we do
[1:48:57] that? And is the coatings in good enough
[1:49:00] shape that it's viable without rusty,
[1:49:02] you know, without and the inside of it
[1:49:04] actually we crawled in it. It looked
[1:49:05] really good shape inside. So,
[1:49:07] >> okay.
[1:49:08] >> And you said that um then you would
[1:49:10] negotiate um some sort of a tra tradeoff
[1:49:14] in in funding or they would take off
[1:49:17] some of the assessment that is put on
[1:49:19] our city. Is that what you said?
[1:49:21] >> It go towards some of our match that
[1:49:22] we're required to meet each year. Mhm.
[1:49:25] >> So, if you know, we have an agreement
[1:49:26] with the state. It's called a
[1:49:28] cooperating wildfire uh systems
[1:49:30] agreement.
[1:49:31] >> And what that means is that every year
[1:49:34] our city matches so many dollars um
[1:49:38] towards mitigation work.
[1:49:39] >> That's why we ask residents to tell us
[1:49:42] their clear Yeah. Their hours go towards
[1:49:44] that. Our wild cruise time goes towards
[1:49:46] it. Stuff like that. um this now would
[1:49:50] be one of those that will go towards it
[1:49:51] in turn for us doing this mitigation and meeting these match requirements. If
[1:49:55] we have a fire in our community and the
[1:49:57] state has to come fight that fire, they
[1:49:58] won't charge us for it. So that's what
[1:50:00] that agreement does.
[1:50:01] >> That's great.
[1:50:05] » Wonderful.
[1:50:07] >> So anything else?
[1:50:08] >> No, that's all I got.
[1:50:09] >> You sure?
[1:50:10] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:50:12] >> I think we've had we
[1:50:14] >> wonderful. We've had some good seat time
[1:50:15] tonight.
[1:50:17] I love it.
[1:50:18] >> Planning Commission, code enforcement.
[1:50:19] Wayne,
[1:50:29] » uh just bring the council up to date a
[1:50:31] little bit on some things that uh the
[1:50:34] city
[1:50:36] um is working on. Um we're looking to
[1:50:41] um for lack of another term, annex some
[1:50:44] property. uh through Summit Creek that
[1:50:48] uh is part of Elkridge right now. And uh
[1:50:52] we kind of got off on the wrong foot uh
[1:50:55] process-wise
[1:50:57] and we're doing it the way we thought we
[1:50:59] were supposed to and uh we Jody ran it
[1:51:02] by our attorney and they said, "No,
[1:51:04] you're doing it all wrong." And uh the
[1:51:08] process had started with uh with
[1:51:10] Elkridge and the county as they were
[1:51:14] fine. And so had we continued down that
[1:51:18] path it would have been void and all of
[1:51:20] that would have been for not. So, um,
[1:51:24] what we do with an adjoining city that
[1:51:27] has
[1:51:30] property that is potentially to be
[1:51:32] brought into our city, for example, is a
[1:51:35] boundary adjustment.
[1:51:37] Um, you still have to go through the
[1:51:40] public hearings and things like that.
[1:51:42] So, we're we're going down that road and
[1:51:47] we'll see where that that gets us. both
[1:51:51] cities generally have to agree to uh do
[1:51:54] it and um so
[1:51:55] >> county surveyor
[1:51:56] >> pardon
[1:51:57] >> and the county surveyor also I think
[1:51:59] >> um
[1:52:00] >> that's boundary adjustments they do
[1:52:04] annexations we'll still have to file it
[1:52:07] with them
[1:52:08] >> but this is between the two cities and
[1:52:10] we have to do a municipal
[1:52:14] » boundary adjustment
[1:52:16] >> adjustment on management
[1:52:17] >> because I know that that well never mind
[1:52:20] So anyway, we're working uh we're
[1:52:21] working on that. Uh we'll have a public
[1:52:24] hearing uh next month on the um general
[1:52:29] plan
[1:52:31] and uh the changes that you're
[1:52:34] recommending tonight and kind of
[1:52:36] finalizing that and put it out for on a
[1:52:40] for public hearing. And then we'll uh
[1:52:45] planning commission will take a vote on
[1:52:47] it. then it'll come to the council for a
[1:52:49] vote and once that's completed and these
[1:52:53] by the way don't may not be consensus
[1:52:56] votes. So it's just like everything else
[1:52:58] that that we take votes on majority
[1:53:02] rules. So um there may be parts of it
[1:53:05] that individuals might not agree with
[1:53:08] and that's fine uh whether it's planning
[1:53:12] commission or council but anyway that's
[1:53:15] the that's what we're looking to do. uh
[1:53:17] process-wise with that.
[1:53:20] Um we're also going through a process of
[1:53:24] vacating part of the bottom part of
[1:53:26] Eagle Nest Drive uh for uh Summer Creek.
[1:53:31] This goes back to the development
[1:53:33] agreement that we made with them a
[1:53:35] number of years ago and uh plans to do
[1:53:38] that and they will uh include that then
[1:53:42] as a part of it basically where it ends
[1:53:46] the culdeac that will be part of their
[1:53:48] private road that they uh take through
[1:53:51] their development at this phase of what
[1:53:54] they're working on. So, we've discussed
[1:53:56] that with our attorneys and are
[1:53:59] confident in the process that uh is to
[1:54:02] do that, have a public hearing, it'll um
[1:54:05] it'll come before you as well. Uh but
[1:54:08] we've agreed to do that in the in the
[1:54:10] development agreement. So, those are
[1:54:13] Jod's taken a bulk of the work on that
[1:54:16] and working through the processes and
[1:54:19] putting it together. So, uh just uh it's
[1:54:23] a time thing. Public hearings are
[1:54:25] required. So, that takes time to publish
[1:54:27] those and um and to do them. So, any
[1:54:31] questions on
[1:54:34] any of that?
[1:54:35] Very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh Aaron
[1:54:40] told me he doesn't have anything for us.
[1:54:42] >> Something for us on that
[1:54:46] >> maybe. Okay. What do you got? just that
[1:54:49] um he and I had a meeting with the
[1:54:51] American Red Cross. Did he tell you
[1:54:52] about that?
[1:54:53] >> He did. And we're going to
[1:54:56] >> Yeah, Ted and I are going to talk about
[1:54:57] that and figure out what that might look
[1:55:00] like going forward. So,
[1:55:01] >> okay.
[1:55:02] >> We're not probably ready to
[1:55:04] >> Are we still have the fire drill on the
[1:55:06] day that day or can we at least say
[1:55:09] that?
[1:55:09] >> Yep. We are looking to uh have a
[1:55:13] citywide fire drill. Um we're not
[1:55:16] exactly sure exactly what the scope will
[1:55:18] look like on that. Um I'm have actually
[1:55:20] working with uh Janet and Dan to work on
[1:55:23] the communication portion
[1:55:25] um of how we let the residents know on
[1:55:28] June 20th. Thank you. So
[1:55:31] please everybody look for more
[1:55:32] information on that front. Thank you
[1:55:35] Carrie.
[1:55:36] >> Uh 911 dispatch.
[1:55:39] >> All right.
[1:55:41] >> So mayor I know you're jealous that I
[1:55:43] get to do this. So,
[1:55:44] >> you have three minutes.
[1:55:46] >> Oh, I'll hurry.
[1:55:48] >> Okay. Um,
[1:55:49] >> take the time.
[1:55:50] >> We're in the middle of I've got some
[1:55:52] good stuff tonight. Uh, they're we're in
[1:55:54] the middle of budgeting over there, too.
[1:55:56] And they're going to give 5% raises to
[1:55:59] dispatchers.
[1:56:01] Uh, as an example, American Fork is
[1:56:04] doing 6% raises for all their employees.
[1:56:07] Uh so um but the costs of of dispatching
[1:56:13] is they're they're very competitive.
[1:56:16] There's uh other dispatch centers local
[1:56:19] here. Mapleton Springville's got one,
[1:56:23] Provo's got one, Lehi or I mean Lynen
[1:56:26] and Oram's got one. So anyway, it's
[1:56:29] competitive and and these dispatchers go
[1:56:32] to where they get best and uh we get 75%
[1:56:36] more workload at our dispatch than pro
[1:56:39] does. So uh we vote on the budget this
[1:56:42] Thursday and I'll have details on the on
[1:56:44] the final numbers, but it doesn't look
[1:56:46] like our costs are going to go up very
[1:56:48] much.
[1:56:50] And the good news is is our calls for
[1:56:53] the last two years have gone down. So,
[1:56:56] uh, I was pleased to see that. So, um,
[1:57:00] >> is there a reason?
[1:57:01] >> Well, it's just good. You know, we've
[1:57:03] got behaved citizens and this is
[1:57:05] specific to Woodland Hills.
[1:57:07] >> Oh, for just for Woodland Hills.
[1:57:08] >> All of dispatch calls, just not just
[1:57:10] 911s, but any calls to dispatch has gone
[1:57:13] down actually about hundred since last
[1:57:16] year. So, um,
[1:57:20] so
[1:57:22] I'd like to share with you a an incident
[1:57:26] with our neighbor over in PAC.
[1:57:29] They had a very difficult call and it g
[1:57:32] it'll give you a a feeling for what our
[1:57:35] dispatchers do.
[1:57:38] This was a letter dispatch received from
[1:57:41] the uh PAC Police Department.
[1:57:45] I'd like to share it. Um, I'm writing
[1:57:47] this letter. This is from the police
[1:57:49] department, the Corporal White from the
[1:57:52] Pac City Police Department. I'm writing
[1:57:55] this letter to express my appreciation
[1:57:57] for the level of professionalism and
[1:57:59] empathy shown by dispatcher Heather Burr
[1:58:02] on March 25th, 2026 for a suicidal male
[1:58:06] calling into dispatch on Salem case.
[1:58:11] PAC officers responded to assist due to
[1:58:14] the vague information. the caller was
[1:58:16] providing. And upon conducting the
[1:58:19] investigation, the patient disclosed
[1:58:22] that they had intended to arrest the
[1:58:24] officers upon their arrival in an
[1:58:26] attempt to force the officers to commit
[1:58:28] suicide by cop.
[1:58:31] The patient advised that while speaking
[1:58:34] with dispatch on the phone, the male had
[1:58:37] been convinced to change his mind from
[1:58:39] the empathetic tone
[1:58:42] and communication provided by dispatcher
[1:58:44] Burr. Heather Burr was in the in the
[1:58:48] room at the meeting took to honor her.
[1:58:50] The patient
[1:58:53] instead opted to seek needed help and
[1:58:56] was compliant with the officers while on
[1:58:58] scene.
[1:58:59] Oh,
[1:59:00] >> now imagine how the police felt about
[1:59:03] that. They get to go home having a
[1:59:06] better day because of the way she
[1:59:07] helped. And so this letter ends, this is
[1:59:10] a statement to the exemplary performance
[1:59:13] exhibited
[1:59:14] by Central Utah Dispatch
[1:59:18] and specifically dispatcher Burr for
[1:59:20] this incident. We officers appreciate
[1:59:23] the dedication you have shown to the
[1:59:25] citizens of Utah County and the
[1:59:28] assistance provided to us. Keep up the
[1:59:30] good work and thank you. Um
[1:59:34] kind of gives an illustration of the
[1:59:35] type of work these dispatchers do and
[1:59:39] not everyone's cut out to be a
[1:59:40] dispatcher. So when we find a good one,
[1:59:44] um
[1:59:45] >> retention.
[1:59:46] >> Yeah. Yeah. We want to keep them. And um
[1:59:49] so and they've got a lot of good ones
[1:59:51] down there. I've met many of them. We've
[1:59:53] toured the facility several times and we should we should take the council
[1:59:57] down there and tour that place. You'll
[2:00:00] get a real impressive feeling of of of
[2:00:03] where your 911 calls go to. So I would
[2:00:06] encourage us to plan that sometime. I'd
[2:00:09] be glad to help us out.
[2:00:10] >> I love your reports, Darl.
[2:00:12] >> Thank you.
[2:00:13] >> And please express our gratitude.
[2:00:15] >> Yeah.
[2:00:15] >> To them for the good work they are
[2:00:17] doing. Um, how have you have any of you
[2:00:22] been able to tour 911?
[2:00:24] >> I have. I have several times. I haven't.
[2:00:27] >> You haven't, Janet?
[2:00:28] >> Oh, you have you haven't.
[2:00:30] >> Brian, have you been to dispatch?
[2:00:32] >> Many times.
[2:00:34] >> Okay. Um, my I don't know about Steve,
[2:00:38] but if you would be willing to set that
[2:00:40] up, Dor.
[2:00:40] >> Okay. I think that would be a valuable
[2:00:42] asset, especially if we could coordinate
[2:00:44] it with maybe something with Sergeant
[2:00:46] Dudson and coordinating there.
[2:00:48] >> Okay.
[2:00:49] >> Maybe go tour the jail or something
[2:00:50] along those lines while we're out there.
[2:00:52] Thank you.
[2:00:56] » Okay, so mayor and city council reports.
[2:01:01] Um, this should be fun. a reminder that
[2:01:04] we will, you know, let's try and keep
[2:01:06] those
[2:01:07] >> five minutes, or less so that we can
[2:01:10] though, we're actually doing pretty
[2:01:11] good, but let's still we're making good progress here. Let's
[2:01:16] see if I can keep my own rule here. Um,
[2:01:19] for MAG and COG, we've had a number of
[2:01:21] different meetings. As Ted highlighted,
[2:01:23] a lot of our meetings lately have been
[2:01:25] focused on uh the distribution of MAG
[2:01:28] potential grants. Um, as Ted said, we
[2:01:31] are 19th out of 30. um for the mag trail
[2:01:35] that we are looking to to have up within
[2:01:37] he'll drive. Um
[2:01:41] I maybe am a little overly optimistic on
[2:01:43] that more so than Ted. Um but so
[2:01:46] hopefully I'm win and not you.
[2:01:48] >> Hey, we're on a streak.
[2:01:50] >> I I appreciate that. Um I think we've
[2:01:53] got
[2:01:55] >> Well, it all comes down. They've said
[2:01:57] that they might split the projects into
[2:02:00] street projects and trail projects which
[2:02:03] may help us quite a bit because I think
[2:02:06] >> we're fifth on the trail. It's about
[2:02:07] eight so we're still
[2:02:10] >> so who knows but that's what we've been
[2:02:13] focusing a lot on with Mag um and Cog.
[2:02:16] Um we've also been going through a lot
[2:02:18] of
[2:02:20] um discussions around especially with
[2:02:23] the budgetary cycle right now. What is
[2:02:25] everybody doing compensationwise? How is
[2:02:27] people treating how are different
[2:02:30] administrations treating their people?
[2:02:31] What are those types of raises? Things
[2:02:33] like that. Um for SCSD, we had a board I
[2:02:37] had a resource meeting yesterday and I
[2:02:39] had a
[2:02:41] board meeting today. Um
[2:02:45] there is some interesting things going
[2:02:47] as to resource capture. Our people at
[2:02:51] SCSD
[2:02:53] are impressive. Um, they do such a great
[2:02:57] job. Um, we have exquisite staff there,
[2:03:00] but the the leadership at SCSD
[2:03:04] is really moving right now. They have a
[2:03:08] potential new contract that is coming
[2:03:10] that they are trying to negotiate that
[2:03:12] will hopefully be able to help us secure
[2:03:16] uh continued rates instead of increased
[2:03:18] rates. So, we're hoping to be able to do
[2:03:21] well there. This things have been a
[2:03:23] little weird because we have hit our
[2:03:25] we're starting to hit our peak months
[2:03:27] faster due to the lack of snow. Um, and
[2:03:31] we had lower consumption during the
[2:03:33] winter than usual due to those warmer
[2:03:35] temperatures
[2:03:36] >> running the last couple days, which is
[2:03:37] wild.
[2:03:38] >> Amen. It is. It is crazy. And we're
[2:03:41] seeing that um we've been able to
[2:03:45] negotiate a few different contracts with
[2:03:47] a few people or few power suppliers
[2:03:52] um that hopefully will lock us in at a
[2:03:55] much better rate for those peak hours
[2:03:57] and during the peak season. um which
[2:04:00] should help us be able to keep rates at
[2:04:02] the same. So we have no intention of
[2:04:03] running a truth and taxation there on
[2:04:05] rate increases which is always so good
[2:04:08] news. Um nothing really new for the
[2:04:11] transfer station.
[2:04:12] Um but for a legal update, I did want to make a comment more than actual an
[2:04:18] update because there's not much that has
[2:04:22] changed legally. Um though we have had a hearing date um for our state appeal
[2:04:32] dismissal case as well as our vexacious
[2:04:36] um claim against in to against them. Um
[2:04:42] and so hopefully that will go well for
[2:04:44] us. Um but I wanted to make a comment.
[2:04:47] There was a post from Anonymous on their
[2:04:50] Facebook page and they and they made a
[2:04:52] comment that I'd like to
[2:04:56] give a little bit of a of a counter
[2:04:58] comment to
[2:05:00] and it's so it says this number three in
[2:05:04] their in their long post. Legal costs
[2:05:07] without clear context. March alone
[2:05:10] included approximately 22,000 in legal
[2:05:12] expenses involving multiple legal teams.
[2:05:17] While legal costs can vary, there are no
[2:05:19] clear public breakdown or historical
[2:05:21] context provided during the meeting.
[2:05:24] Residents should be able to understand
[2:05:28] and then it's four three bullet points
[2:05:30] what these costs relate to, whether they
[2:05:33] are increasing and how they compare
[2:05:36] year-over-year.
[2:05:38] Um it is true that there are multiple
[2:05:42] entities involved. Um a lot of that has
[2:05:45] to do with the fact that
[2:05:47] most of the legal issues we've dealt
[2:05:50] with have been land used issues which
[2:05:52] are typically not something that is
[2:05:54] litigated the way this has been. Um thus
[2:05:57] insurance no longer is carrying for
[2:06:00] those particular cases and that is why
[2:06:03] our legal fees have increased. uh we
[2:06:07] believe we may be able to look at
[2:06:09] potential strategies on that front. Um
[2:06:12] but one of the reasons that I wanted to
[2:06:14] highlight here is when we do provide
[2:06:19] legal updates um with a great degree of
[2:06:22] clarity, there tends to be legal
[2:06:25] retribution.
[2:06:27] So on
[2:06:30] um actually I don't know the date. This
[2:06:32] is February 25th. We had um is that when
[2:06:37] that amendment was filed? 225. Is that
[2:06:41] what that means?
[2:06:43] >> Well, likely
[2:06:44] >> earlier this year there was a second
[2:06:47] amended complaint filed um in the Fugia
[2:06:51] versus Woodland Hills and many others.
[2:06:56] And this is an amendment um and this is
[2:06:59] kind of what it states when they are
[2:07:02] litigating me personally. And I'm saying
[2:07:04] this not to make bring pity to to me or
[2:07:07] any of the other staff that have been
[2:07:09] personally called into this litigation,
[2:07:12] but for the reasons of why we may not
[2:07:15] always give full clarity around the
[2:07:17] legal situation going on in the city.
[2:07:19] Because one, we have a narrative that is
[2:07:24] not necessarily articulating
[2:07:26] um in my opinion an integral uh view of
[2:07:30] what is going on. But this is what the
[2:07:32] amended claim now is saying about a
[2:07:34] statement I read in February 10th due to
[2:07:37] a request for higher legal transparency.
[2:07:40] It says, "As mayor, Hillyard on February
[2:07:43] 10th, 2026 broadcast to $520 city
[2:07:47] households a $6,500
[2:07:50] per household cost figure for settlement
[2:07:53] of this litigation that he subsequently
[2:07:56] admitted had no documentary basis. There
[2:07:59] are no records documenting this uh
[2:08:02] calculation and he is quoting an email
[2:08:04] that I sent to a resident requesting a
[2:08:06] grammar for that calculation. Um
[2:08:09] selectioning among undocumented figures
[2:08:14] city recorder stones carbon copied on
[2:08:16] Hillyard's written admission took no
[2:08:19] corrective action. Now this is them
[2:08:22] claiming that we are hiding information
[2:08:24] um which is a falsity. What we are
[2:08:27] saying is there is no record quantifying
[2:08:30] this calculation because basically
[2:08:33] >> it's simple math.
[2:08:35] >> I rendered them the numbers in our head
[2:08:37] with a calculator on my phone, right? We
[2:08:40] added the two different uh the smallest
[2:08:44] which is also uh changed a little bit
[2:08:48] here in these amended complaints. um the
[2:08:51] smallest numbers of both potential
[2:08:55] uh claims that have been filed against
[2:08:57] the city divided by the number of
[2:08:59] resident homes in the city and that's
[2:09:01] where the number came from. And so there
[2:09:03] is a constant fabrication or
[2:09:05] exaggeration or manipulation of our
[2:09:08] words. And thus the legal updates we're
[2:09:10] trying to keep as factual as possible
[2:09:12] because we're not trying to weaponize
[2:09:14] anything, but they are this is the funds
[2:09:17] of the city of Wooden Hills, which is a
[2:09:19] collective sum of our residents. It's
[2:09:21] their money. Um, as I have spent so much
[2:09:25] time going over the budget uh with the
[2:09:27] staff, with the finance committee twice
[2:09:30] and the council, we hold these funds
[2:09:33] sacred. Um, the expenditure of them we
[2:09:36] try not to to do without careful
[2:09:40] consideration. And so when these
[2:09:43] allegations are made, part of the reason
[2:09:46] we don't necessarily go into these
[2:09:48] details is due to the retaliation that
[2:09:50] we get. And thus, I sometimes feel these
[2:09:53] are statements of somewhat of an
[2:09:55] entrapment, getting us to say things
[2:09:57] that they can use out of context to thus
[2:09:58] increase their litigation against the
[2:10:00] city, increasing the costs of the city.
[2:10:02] Um, and so I just wanted to give that
[2:10:05] legal update and a little bit of context
[2:10:06] to uh the narrative that is being
[2:10:09] propagated um on social media. there
[2:10:12] will be more now because you
[2:10:14] >> of course I made this comment now it'll
[2:10:16] be back out there but I did want to at
[2:10:18] least put in those two cents and they
[2:10:20] have the freedom of speech and I'd never
[2:10:22] want to remove that. So um with that
[2:10:25] being said though I'd like to move to
[2:10:27] council member Hutchings
[2:10:30] for SUVMWA and Mount Nebo Water.
[2:10:36] >> So now I got to follow that. I
[2:10:37] appreciate it
[2:10:39] >> every single time because you're always
[2:10:41] after me, brother.
[2:10:44] >> Okay, for SUVA or South Utah Valley
[2:10:46] Municipal Water Association, we we met
[2:10:49] with both of these associations
[2:10:50] yesterday. Um I was able to get them to
[2:10:54] start uh broadcasting those as an online
[2:10:57] so I'm able to attend those when I'm out
[2:10:58] of town. Um we are the it was a work
[2:11:02] session for Sumba. Um and a couple of
[2:11:06] the items that we work through, one is
[2:11:09] the attorney um that used to cover SUMBA
[2:11:12] is no longer with patient city. So we're
[2:11:14] working to find attorney coverage. Um
[2:11:17] the uh finance financial group that
[2:11:20] covered strong and that had had done
[2:11:23] representation for SUVA has retired and
[2:11:28] so he's done it for decades and so
[2:11:32] they're looking for someone new. I
[2:11:33] actually uh talked with Charlene and
[2:11:36] she's interested and and I proposed her
[2:11:38] name. Um they're going to get through
[2:11:41] the this fiscal year and the new budget
[2:11:44] with help from uh PAC city and then
[2:11:47] we're going to look at at proposals and
[2:11:51] she will be on that. She said when I
[2:11:53] talked to her she said it was it fit
[2:11:55] right into the kind of thing that she's
[2:11:57] looking for. um and the technical
[2:12:01] committee which I had um actually
[2:12:04] nominated Ted to help chair with Brady
[2:12:07] Wild from Salem. Um
[2:12:11] and Ted dodged a big bullet there and
[2:12:13] Brady and and now I've forgotten the
[2:12:16] name are are going to be taking care of
[2:12:18] that technical committee. So I've told
[2:12:20] Ted just as long as he's there to to uh
[2:12:23] to mentor them, mentor the new young
[2:12:25] kids and and help them through this. Um
[2:12:27] Ted's super experienced with this kind
[2:12:29] of thing, but Sumba actually is is one
[2:12:32] of the lesser of the the groups that I
[2:12:34] feel like that that I attend their
[2:12:36] meetings. Um and and um more of it is
[2:12:41] the Mount Nebo. Mount Nebo is much more
[2:12:44] uh complex in in what they're doing. So
[2:12:47] I'll move on to Mount Nebo. Um again, we
[2:12:49] had the meeting yesterday and the big
[2:12:52] part of that meeting, the the largest
[2:12:54] part of that meeting was going over the
[2:12:55] groundwater model. Um, they put a lot of
[2:12:58] information into this TED. If you
[2:13:00] haven't seen it yet, um, I'm trying to
[2:13:01] get a copy of it so we can pass it on
[2:13:03] and we can really see what they've been
[2:13:06] putting together. Put a lot of money
[2:13:07] into this ground uh, groundwater model
[2:13:09] update and um,
[2:13:13] then kind of went through kind of how
[2:13:16] this thing is laid out. It's a little
[2:13:17] bit different and and how they're putting those things together.
[2:13:20] Um, really really interesting. I'll try
[2:13:22] to get that for everybody to look at.
[2:13:25] Um, one of the things that they are are
[2:13:28] looking at is uh the 2027 database and
[2:13:33] managing that. Um, so we're probably
[2:13:36] going to see some um some more
[2:13:40] fees. I don't know that it's going to be
[2:13:41] any more than we were before. Um, but
[2:13:44] there there is some maintaining of that
[2:13:47] system um that's going to come out. So,
[2:13:50] we'll see that coming through. Um, we
[2:13:52] got a um, presentation from the water
[2:13:56] commissioner at Vidmar for the 2026
[2:13:59] water year. Not looking so fantastic,
[2:14:01] folks. And we all know that. Um, they
[2:14:05] did uh,
[2:14:08] review and and put the tenative budget
[2:14:10] together and voted on that. Um, and then
[2:14:13] talked a little bit about some um,
[2:14:17] future meetings. And one of the things
[2:14:18] that they talked about, and I'll get
[2:14:20] more information as this comes out, is
[2:14:22] last year they had a special meeting
[2:14:24] around July 1st, and they're looking at
[2:14:26] doing it again. And what they want to do
[2:14:28] is they want to present with local,
[2:14:30] state, and federal uh elected officials,
[2:14:33] and they're looking at doing that in
[2:14:34] Spanish at the library. Um, so expect an
[2:14:38] invite somewhere around July 1st for
[2:14:41] everyone on that. Um and so they want to
[2:14:44] do some some presentations with with all
[2:14:47] the elect as many elected officials as
[2:14:48] they can um including uh council people
[2:14:51] on that. Um
[2:14:53] >> did you say that's m July 1st for all of
[2:14:55] us? That's a set date right now.
[2:14:58] >> It is not it's just proposed. So they're they're working out the the
[2:15:02] finals and I'll get that information to
[2:15:04] you, but expect it right there. Um and one of the things they're looking at
[2:15:09] is the the southern Utah County water
[2:15:11] demands and the infrastructure when the
[2:15:14] new um
[2:15:17] uh when the new uh treatment center
[2:15:21] because that's been put off when that is
[2:15:23] going to be needed and and things like
[2:15:25] that into the future. So kind of look
[2:15:27] forward to that and I'll do my best to
[2:15:29] attend it if you're not able to make it
[2:15:31] and and give a report um to that. One of
[2:15:34] the things that we talked about kind of
[2:15:36] in both meetings more in the Mount Nebo
[2:15:39] um and we all know we're in in a tough
[2:15:41] year, right, for water. Um and one of
[2:15:45] the things that they talked about was uh
[2:15:48] kind of strike when the iron is hot. Um
[2:15:51] everybody is more open to water
[2:15:54] conservation, water restrictions right
[2:15:57] now because everybody knows how
[2:15:59] difficult our water year has been and
[2:16:01] our lower snow pack has been. So, um I
[2:16:04] had talked to Ted previously and I'm
[2:16:06] going to going to recommend to the mayor
[2:16:08] and Ted that we uh look at some
[2:16:12] conservation efforts uh sooner than
[2:16:15] later and and like we talked about going
[2:16:17] through the the general plan that that
[2:16:19] people have a tendency to use more water
[2:16:21] during drought years. And so now is a
[2:16:24] time for us to to push some conservation
[2:16:27] efforts. um maybe get the the our our
[2:16:31] PIO involved and and get some things out
[2:16:34] on social media and and let's see if we
[2:16:37] can do some conservation because we're
[2:16:39] in for a tough year. It's not going to
[2:16:41] affect us near as much as some other
[2:16:43] cities. Um actually Strawberry, their
[2:16:46] bank levels are doing really well, but
[2:16:49] they're concerned. They're still
[2:16:51] concerned. Everybody's quite concerned
[2:16:53] about the water. So, um I I think some
[2:16:55] conservation efforts um coming from our
[2:16:59] city um at least recommend high
[2:17:01] recommendations if not um restrictions
[2:17:04] would be a good time to do that for us.
[2:17:08] So, that's my report. Thank you.
[2:17:11] >> Thank you, Council Member Hutchkins. I
[2:17:14] failed to uh acknowledge the absence of
[2:17:17] council member John's earlier. Um but he
[2:17:20] is unable to uh join us and so he has
[2:17:24] been excused. Um council member Lund
[2:17:28] um well you can see on there I didn't
[2:17:30] have anything specifically but
[2:17:33] um we have our new co-chairs for
[2:17:36] Woodland Hills Days and um we had some
[2:17:41] good name suggestions. We had quite a
[2:17:43] few, but one thing that we heard from a
[2:17:45] lot of people is that we really wanted
[2:17:47] to get some participation from Summit
[2:17:49] Creek. That's something that we've
[2:17:51] really lacked in some of our major
[2:17:52] events. Um, so I bravely texted Tim and
[2:17:56] Hillary Weeks last night cuz I had just
[2:17:59] gotten home from my trip and they said, "Yeah, we're going to be in
[2:18:03] the car driving in 20 minutes. Give us a
[2:18:05] call." So I did and they didn't even
[2:18:07] have to think about it. they already had
[2:18:09] ideas and they said yes immediately. So,
[2:18:13] hey, Hillary had said, "We'll think
[2:18:14] about it. We'll call you tomorrow." And
[2:18:16] she goes, "You know what? We're just
[2:18:17] going to commit right now. We're both
[2:18:19] looking at each other nodding our heads.
[2:18:20] Yes." So, um anyway, so I'm excited.
[2:18:23] They have some good ideas. I talked to
[2:18:26] them about wanting to incorporate the
[2:18:28] 250 years celebration into Woodland
[2:18:30] Hills Days. And so, um, they were really
[2:18:34] excited about that and they were going
[2:18:35] to start brainstorming and we're going
[2:18:36] to have our first official meeting May
[2:18:38] 27th. So, we'll get everybody together,
[2:18:41] get rolling.
[2:18:43] >> Wonderful.
[2:18:44] >> And Dan's helping with all that. And I
[2:18:46] picked the people without asking, but he
[2:18:47] knew the names. I
[2:18:48] >> Yes,
[2:18:49] >> he knew the names and he didn't object
[2:18:50] to the names. I just called them and
[2:18:53] picked them. So, anyway, um, yeah,
[2:18:56] that's all.
[2:18:57] >> Well, wonderful. Uh, Council Member
[2:18:59] Malovich.
[2:19:00] >> Yes. with the animal shelter. Um like
[2:19:03] every other entity doing their budget.
[2:19:06] So we passed the budget today. Um
[2:19:08] participation fees are based on each
[2:19:11] city's share of total animal intake.
[2:19:14] When one city experiences an increase in
[2:19:16] animals, their percentage and cost
[2:19:17] rises. Conversely, decreases in another
[2:19:20] shift city shift percentages across all
[2:19:22] participants. Animal numbers are the
[2:19:25] previous full calendar year. So they
[2:19:28] gave us the intake of and the money that
[2:19:30] is allocated to that. Ours went up
[2:19:33] significantly. So it is at $4,967
[2:19:39] now. Um
[2:19:40] >> the year before we only had like one or
[2:19:42] something.
[2:19:42] >> We have 12. We have 12 animals. That's
[2:19:44] been the last the last couple of years
[2:19:45] we've had about 12. Um,
[2:19:47] >> okay.
[2:19:48] >> But, um, I brought up that this was not
[2:19:51] Oh, well, myself and, uh, Councilman
[2:19:54] Oiler from Spanish Fork brought up that
[2:19:57] this system is not a very good
[2:19:59] allocation of or assessment. The formula
[2:20:02] is not. Um, we're wanting to look, it's
[2:20:05] too late for this year cuz they've
[2:20:08] already put the budget numbers according
[2:20:09] to Lee, but maybe changing that formula
[2:20:13] um, based on the class of city instead
[2:20:16] of just the number of animals that are
[2:20:18] taken in. Because when we did that, when
[2:20:21] I did the math for them and let them
[2:20:23] know that our allocation for Woodland
[2:20:25] Hills is $414 per animal.
[2:20:29] >> Oh, yeah. But for Provo, theirs is only
[2:20:33] using the same formula. Theirs is only
[2:20:36] $170 per animal.
[2:20:39] So their formula is is not quite
[2:20:43] accurate in how they were how they were
[2:20:46] assessing the number of animals that are
[2:20:48] picked up based on the city size. So, we
[2:20:51] uh Councilman Oiler and I are going to
[2:20:52] work on this for next year that we can
[2:20:56] maybe have a little bit more of um some
[2:20:58] equity equality in in how that
[2:21:01] percentage is done. They didn't even
[2:21:04] recognize that it was so skewed.
[2:21:08] And
[2:21:08] >> was there any calculation involved that
[2:21:10] maybe people in the cities were dropping
[2:21:12] off their animals into us rural cities?
[2:21:15] >> Um Gan is for sure. I I just came from
[2:21:19] Go Town Council. That's
[2:21:21] >> the mayor was there today and he said we
[2:21:23] know for sure some of the stuff that we
[2:21:25] were that was allocated for us. And so
[2:21:29] when an when an animal is picked up on
[2:21:32] its in, you know, on the border or
[2:21:35] whatever, it has to uh has to go is
[2:21:39] negotiating on some of their animals. We
[2:21:41] only have 12 and they can when the it's
[2:21:44] picked up and it says the street is in
[2:21:46] the middle of Woodland Hills. Um I we're
[2:21:49] probably
[2:21:51] I don't know
[2:21:53] how why are these animals are picked up
[2:21:56] or not picked up, you know, whatever.
[2:21:58] But um hopefully we can get that changed
[2:22:01] because I did not feel that that was a
[2:22:03] very very good thing. Now in addition to
[2:22:06] that, so that's the budget going
[2:22:08] forward. Um and it was passed today. We
[2:22:12] also passed another document that um Dor
[2:22:15] will probably appreciate. Um
[2:22:18] >> last lady.
[2:22:19] >> Yeah. So today we approved the South
[2:22:21] Valley Animal Shelters
[2:22:23] community cat and TNVR policy. Remember
[2:22:27] TNRV is trapneuter vaccinate and return
[2:22:32] um or community cat program. And so I
[2:22:34] will um email you all this, but
[2:22:37] basically it's um under code Utah code
[2:22:41] 1146301
[2:22:44] um a local government may choose to
[2:22:48] authorize a community cap program
[2:22:50] through our own ordinances. But then it
[2:22:52] outlines the the specifics between
[2:22:55] ourselves,
[2:22:57] a rescue organization, and the shelter
[2:23:00] to what each one would be responsible
[2:23:02] for or not responsible for. Does not say
[2:23:04] that we need to do that. It's just a
[2:23:06] choice that each city would have, but I
[2:23:09] will email you the the final version
[2:23:11] that we approved today as well as then
[2:23:14] the budget.
[2:23:16] >> Wonderful. Okay. Thank you much. Uh,
[2:23:19] Council Member Rhden. Um, no, just in
[2:23:22] support of
[2:23:24] um,
[2:23:26] Councilwoman Blunt
[2:23:30] uh, around Golden Hills Days. Um, and
[2:23:33] then also you and I have discussed about
[2:23:35] a broader scope of educating residents
[2:23:38] on just kind of the events that we do
[2:23:41] support and host as a city and hopefully
[2:23:44] more
[2:23:44] >> advertising of them regularly. Maybe
[2:23:47] not. You know, I I'm actually surprised
[2:23:50] on some of the ones you when you and I
[2:23:51] had a conversation. So, working on that.
[2:23:54] Um, and then the other piece too for you
[2:23:57] um
[2:23:59] is I'm building an application to better
[2:24:02] manage uh Woodland Hill stays. So, as we
[2:24:05] transfer from chair to chair to chair,
[2:24:07] they'll actually have a software to help
[2:24:09] manage contacts, tasks, all those type
[2:24:12] of things to better hopefully. Yeah,
[2:24:14] because right now we're just kind of
[2:24:15] >> right now it's it's banners. It's it's a
[2:24:17] bunch of binders and
[2:24:20] >> you know things of that notes,
[2:24:21] handwritten notes, spreadsheets, Google
[2:24:23] Docs. So, um going to build a little
[2:24:26] >> more consistency,
[2:24:28] >> help manage it. And then we'll have a
[2:24:30] mobile component as well, so they can be
[2:24:32] able to manage it on the go.
[2:24:33] >> Awesome.
[2:24:34] >> So, um but I'll we'll probably use this
[2:24:37] year as an opportunity to do that
[2:24:38] knowledge transfer and see what needs to
[2:24:40] go over and what content needs to be in
[2:24:42] there. Callie's did send an email. I'll
[2:24:44] find it and forward it to YouTube where
[2:24:46] they kind of had all that information.
[2:24:48] So, I'll find it. I'm trying to think
[2:24:50] where it was. It might be in a text,
[2:24:52] >> like a link to a Google doc or
[2:24:54] something.
[2:24:54] >> Yeah, exactly.
[2:24:55] >> I'll see if I can find it and get it to
[2:24:57] you.
[2:24:57] >> We just want to put it more in our
[2:24:58] encapsulated with with the city rather
[2:25:00] than in random Google Docs all over.
[2:25:03] >> Yep.
[2:25:04] >> I'm working on that one, too. So,
[2:25:05] >> beautiful. Thank you.
[2:25:09] >> Okay. Um, any items for any upcoming
[2:25:12] city council meetings?
[2:25:15] >> We talked about some last time. They're
[2:25:17] still coming up. So, strategic plan is
[2:25:20] one of those.
[2:25:20] >> Strategic plan is one of them.
[2:25:22] >> But we do have a public hearing next
[2:25:25] week
[2:25:26] for the bond.
[2:25:29] >> Yes. Next council meeting.
[2:25:30] >> Next council meeting.
[2:25:31] >> I was going to say I have a meeting. We
[2:25:33] have meeting next week. Yes, we do have
[2:25:36] for that bond. Um,
[2:25:39] >> we should be receiving hopefully some of
[2:25:41] those documents uh shortly.
[2:25:46] Anything else, Michael? Or not Michael.
[2:25:48] if you have one, that'd be
[2:25:49] great. Uh, Brian,
[2:25:53] » nothing right now. Um, I'll work with uh
[2:25:57] with Wayne when I actually get back into
[2:25:59] town on that uh uh ordinance that I was
[2:26:03] working on.
[2:26:04] >> Wonderful. Okay. Thank you.
[2:26:08] >> So, next we need to work on a grant for
[2:26:11] the playground.
[2:26:13] >> Hey,
[2:26:16] » right toilet.
[2:26:18] >> Toilet. Mark.
[2:26:19] >> Yeah, we need a toilet. We need a trail.
[2:26:22] >> Increase and increase security with the
[2:26:25] toilet.
[2:26:28] » Exactly. That'll be fun. That was one of
[2:26:30] the problems that we had when we didn't
[2:26:31] put it in originally because we didn't
[2:26:33] have enough law enforcement to be able
[2:26:35] to make sure that
[2:26:37] >> becomes a little drug hub.
[2:26:38] >> Mhm. And that's why or other things. And
[2:26:42] so we just need to make sure that
[2:26:44] >> those things happen there. Anyway,
[2:26:45] >> we have some we have some security in
[2:26:48] place for our residents
[2:26:49] >> and our little circles. This might be a
[2:26:52] good opportunity to remind the public
[2:26:55] that there are cameras throughout the
[2:26:58] city and and one of those is at the park
[2:27:02] >> and so it is being surveiled so you may
[2:27:06] want to just keep that in mind.
[2:27:08] >> Tell your teenagers there on cameras
[2:27:10] everywhere.
[2:27:11] >> Okay, then we will take uh what are we
[2:27:13] at here? Why can't we ever end like 5
[2:27:16] minutes to 8:30?
[2:27:18] >> I don't know.
[2:27:18] >> We will end now. We'll take a break till
[2:27:21] 8:35.
[2:27:31] » Okay, Brian, can you hear us?
[2:27:34] >> Yes, sir.
[2:27:36] >> Perfect. Okay, then I'd like to call
[2:27:38] this city council meeting to order. Uh,
[2:27:40] we are going to have an invocation from
[2:27:42] Council Member Rhoden and a pledge of
[2:27:44] allegiance from Council Member Malovich.
[2:27:51] Father, we're thankful for the
[2:27:52] opportunity to meet u together as city
[2:27:54] council and mayor and supporting staff
[2:27:57] to u
[2:28:00] do the work of this wonderful community.
[2:28:03] We're thankful for the opportunity to
[2:28:05] serve. We pray for our community and its
[2:28:07] unique needs and our people. We pray
[2:28:10] that we'll be mindful of them and that
[2:28:12] um we can be judicious and educated
[2:28:16] about how we go about this city
[2:28:18] business. And this we pray for in Jesus
[2:28:20] name. Amen.
[2:28:22] >> Amen.
[2:28:22] >> Everybody would please rise and repeat.
[2:28:27] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the
[2:28:31] United States of America and to the
[2:28:34] republic for which it stands. One nation
[2:28:38] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:28:42] justice for all.
[2:28:48] » Thank you both. I'd like to open the
[2:28:51] public comment. Um, public comments are
[2:28:53] limited to two minutes per individual
[2:28:55] unless otherwise directed. Um, comments
[2:28:58] submitted by email must be received by
[2:29:00] 300 p.m. on the day of the meeting. to
[2:29:03] be included in the official record.
[2:29:04] Emmailed comments will not be read aloud
[2:29:07] during the meeting, but will be
[2:29:09] distributed to the city council and
[2:29:11] included in the meeting record.
[2:29:14] So, do I have anybody uh Diana or
[2:29:17] Michael?
[2:29:19] >> We lost Sher. She already posted on
[2:29:21] Facebook.
[2:29:22] >> Oh,
[2:29:24] Diana.
[2:29:26] >> I My family just got home, so I can put
[2:29:30] myself here. There were just comments
[2:29:32] that of wording that could have helped
[2:29:34] and I've shared it with Carrie and
[2:29:36] Janet.
[2:29:39] I don't know that it's
[2:29:44] » we can take out the word chipper days
[2:29:45] because what it is is a city forest wise
[2:29:48] cleanup days. Sometimes we have the
[2:29:50] advantage of having chipper days,
[2:29:51] sometimes we don't. But it would be wise
[2:29:53] if we continue to have something every
[2:29:56] year that's calendared and reminding
[2:29:59] citizens how to do what
[2:30:03] >> I like that
[2:30:05] >> because there have been years there's
[2:30:07] where we just had the green barrels,
[2:30:08] right? I mean I remember one year we had
[2:30:10] the bins and we didn't have the chipper
[2:30:11] but we could follow all our green
[2:30:15] >> Yeah.
[2:30:16] >> water usage reducing water usage. My
[2:30:19] suggestion was some methods we encourage
[2:30:21] are blank by blank, but you got close to
[2:30:23] that one by the time you're done um
[2:30:26] talking.
[2:30:27] And I said,
[2:30:29] >> our usage is typically greater on that
[2:30:31] one line that was highlighted.
[2:30:34] >> That's right.
[2:30:37] >> Yeah. And not even, you know, just
[2:30:39] globally whenever there's a drought,
[2:30:42] water usage typically greater.
[2:30:47] » Thank you.
[2:30:48] Hey, thank you. Yeah, I received those.
[2:30:51] Um, and I'll be including those.
[2:30:55] Appreciate it. Uh, Michael, anything
[2:30:57] from you?
[2:30:58] >> Thank you. No, nothing tonight. I
[2:30:59] appreciate it.
[2:31:01] >> Okay. Thank you for your contributions
[2:31:02] on the finance committee as well. You've
[2:31:04] been a great asset there.
[2:31:07] Okay, then I will close the public uh
[2:31:09] comment. Actually, is there anybody here
[2:31:12] do
[2:31:14] >> not right now? No. Okay,
[2:31:16] >> then we will continue to close it. Um,
[2:31:18] and we will move to the consent agenda.
[2:31:20] The approval of minutes for April 28th,
[2:31:23] 2026 city council meeting.
[2:31:26] >> Do I have a motion?
[2:31:27] >> I'll make a motion that we approve the
[2:31:29] minutes.
[2:31:30] >> I'll second.
[2:31:31] >> Motion from council member or Janet
[2:31:34] Lunt. Wow, I'm struggling.
[2:31:37] >> And a second from council member Rhoden.
[2:31:39] Um, council member Malovich.
[2:31:42] >> Yes.
[2:31:42] >> Council member Hutchkins. Yes.
[2:31:45] >> Council member Rhoden.
[2:31:47] >> Yes.
[2:31:47] >> Council member Lund.
[2:31:48] >> Yes.
[2:31:49] >> The consent agenda passes. Um business
[2:31:52] consideration and possible action
[2:31:54] authorizing the mayor to execute the
[2:31:56] accounting services contract with
[2:31:58] Charlene Wild. I'll accept a motion.
[2:32:00] >> I'll motion.
[2:32:02] >> Motion from council member Malovich. Do
[2:32:04] I have a second?
[2:32:05] >> I'll second.
[2:32:07] >> Okay. Uh okay. Sounds like it goes the
[2:32:10] second goes to council member Hutchkins.
[2:32:13] Um, Council Member Lund,
[2:32:15] >> yes.
[2:32:16] >> Council member Roden,
[2:32:17] >> yes.
[2:32:17] >> Council member Hutchkins,
[2:32:19] >> yes.
[2:32:20] >> Council member Malovich,
[2:32:21] >> yes.
[2:32:22] >> Thank you so much for that support. Um,
[2:32:25] I have no need for or see a reason to go
[2:32:28] into close session. Is there anybody
[2:32:30] here that feels that would be worth our
[2:32:31] time per the state statute allowance?
[2:32:35] >> Not tonight. For me,
[2:32:37] >> you you kind of gave us a little bit of
[2:32:39] a legal update during your presentation,
[2:32:41] so Wonderful. Okay.
[2:32:44] >> Wait, wait, wait. Does that mean we're
[2:32:46] going to be out of here?
[2:32:47] >> Oh, we're trying to break some records
[2:32:49] here. Uh, I'll accept a motion to
[2:32:51] adjurnn.
[2:32:52] >> I'll make a motion.
[2:32:54] >> Do I have a second?
[2:32:55] >> Second.
[2:32:56] >> And we are adjourned.
[2:32:58] >> Thank you everybody. Thank you, Diana.
[2:33:00] Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Dorl.
[2:33:01] Appreciate you guys.