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Okay. Like to welcome everybody to uh

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city council May 26, 2026.

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Um Mark, glad to have you. He is our

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what would I call it? He's our officer

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that we work with with uh

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>> at Zans's public finance.

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um a great asset there for us. So, we

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have two public hearings that we're

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going to start with. So, I'd like to

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call to order the public hearing

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regarding the proposed issuance of

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Wooden Hills City sales and franchise

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tax revenue bonds uh series 2026 in the

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principal amount of not to exceed uh

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1,400,000

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in one or more series pursuant to the

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local government bonding act chapter 11

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chapter or title 11 chapter 14 Utah code

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uh annotated 1953

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um as amended Ed, notice of this public

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hearing regarding the proposed bonds has

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been provided as required by law. The

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notice was posted as a class A notice

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under section 63G-30-102,

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Utah code annotated 1953

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as amended, including posting on the

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Utah public notice website, the city's

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official website and here at the

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Woodland Hills City Center located at

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690 South Woodland Hills Drive. The

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notice was also published in accordance

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to section 45-1-101

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Utah code uh annotated 1953 as amended

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at least 14 days prior to this public

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hearing. The purpose of this public

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hearing is to receive input from the

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members of the the public regarding the

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proposed issuance of the bonds and any

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potential economic impact and pro and

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project finance with the bonds proceed

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proceeds proceeds may have on the

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private sector. At this time I will open

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the public hearing invite any members of

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the public who uh wishes to speak on

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this matter to come forward and provide

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Do you want to note which council

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members are in attendance and which

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council members are electronic?

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>> Yep. I'd be happy to do that. So in

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attendance we currently have council

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member John's, Council Member Rhoden,

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and Council Member Lunt. Um myself, the

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mayor. Um we online we have Council

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Member Hutchkins. Um, and I believe

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Council Member Malovich will be joining

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us shortly, though currently is not in

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Should we leave this open for a certain

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amount of time or proceed to the next uh

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item? Wonderful. Okay. Then we will

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close the public hearing for um the

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issuance of the bond for the sales and

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franchise tax revenue and then we will

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move on to our public hearing for the

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proposed 2026 2027 fiscal year budget.

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Is there anybody from the public that

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would like to comment on the proposed

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budget that we discussed last council

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meeting?

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with no comments, we will close the

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public hearings

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and we will move into our work session

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where we were going to discuss the

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proposed 2026 2027

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last meeting. Um you guys would have

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received that. Hello, Carrie.

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>> Um is there any questions that any of

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there was a few uh slight changes here

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actually make one change. If you look

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into the fiscal year 2027 budget that is

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proposed, we did add in the grant that

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we were just awarded um for the pickle

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ball court. Um we also added in the the match that we need to contribute and

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that has been added into this budget. So

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that is the only change that we did

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make. Sweet. Okay. Um, then we will move

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on to item number four, discussion of

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the proposed strategic plan.

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discuss and I have a few questions that

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might actually help as well. So we

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received a bill today from um

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slightly cockeyed here. Um, the

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strategic plan is currently build at

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anything else that we will be receiving

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need to change it, but I don't think so.

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second paragraph of the document um we

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add this this text um or something like

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this. It says this document

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implementation this document's

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implementation is at the full discretion

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of the current legislative budget

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process and discretionary implementation

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of the executive.

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binding the hands of the elected

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officials.

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binding of the elected officials. It's

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supposed to be the um

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at the discretion of the council on what

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they what the council wants to do as far

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as the goals. This is the suggestions

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that are here and then if there's edits

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to be made, we can do that. Um but it's

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mostly to be looked at as short-term

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goals to be reviewed annually and then

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right after what the strategic plan

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does. The strategic plan gives elected

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officials and city staff a clear picture

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of which projects move forward in what

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order and how limited resources will be

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allocated um specifically and I would

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just shift that to from will to may.

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capacity. I wanted this is this is more

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you know this the council's document.

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guys as kind of more of an outsider on

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this one pager just to make sure that

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it's um in align with what we want to

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do. Make sure that the general plan is a

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living document and to make us more

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accountable is what the strategic plan

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cognitive of what the general plan has

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in it and how we move it along through

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the years instead of just every so many

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strategic plan or was it all built in to

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the cost of everything together?

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together with the the original grant was for the general

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plan update and the strategic plan as a

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that I've got this in a little bit of a

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this grant that we didn't get any

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them. So, Sunrise was able to pick that

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this up after the RFP and finish both

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with with not the full amount of the

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of cover document?

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a little preemptive. I get we want to

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preemptive until we've we've actually

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goals that should be going into this."

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timelines on anything? My understanding

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views in our current state and doesn't

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require us to say here's how we're going

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to go about executing the plan. It's

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just this is the plan. There's no

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execution requirement is my

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understanding. So that would be my only

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incumbent upon us to actually have some

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sort of supplementary document, whether

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it be not a full document, but whether

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it's a prelude or whatever that says

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anything contrary or anything to that

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fact around implementation of the ideas.

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go in with the general plan that's very

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vague and then as we adopt the um

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general plan um Daniel has already been

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working with the mayor and the staff on

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specific goals that can be implemented

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as they see fit and then that would be

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an internal document not a not a public

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document. ment because then they can we

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can then look and see what is the goal

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that we want to do once the general plan

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has been approved. This is just a one

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they're they're completely separate

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documents if that makes sense.

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looking for kind of a consensus document

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that like we've all formally raised our

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hands and adopted the document?

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>> I don't know. I I'm trying to ask what

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is our what is the procedure here?

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Because I look at the matrix and the

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matrix has timelines. It's got people.

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It's got all that stuff in it. So, I'm

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kind of confused here.

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>> So, let me let me see if I can help here

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a little bit, Brian. So, you guys the

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council has gone through and looked at

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every single page thus far of the

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general plan, right? It's now been sent

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back to the planning commission for

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their public hearing and vote. Correct.

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You have a public hearing. Um and then

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it will come to the council and we will

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also vote on that and make it official.

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In that document at the end of every

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chapter were the goals, right? And this

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is what we kind of discussed last time

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as we went through each of those goals

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and we kind of word smith them, right?

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It was those goals that were pulled out

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and added to create this matrix.

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So hence we're able to kind of work this

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in tandem cuz I'm kind of wanting to get

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this whole thing through past the finish

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line um since it has been you know I

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guess four years to this point. Um and

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so I've given each of these different

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committees and organizations some

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deadlines for us to to complete this. So

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that's where these goals came from was

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from the general plan that we've gotten

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to answer your question of where did

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these goals come from? Why are we not

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passing the general plan first? And it's

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because we've kind of gone through that

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preliminarily. It got thrown into to the

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community development committee for them

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to be able to start this process in

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tandem while we have then be going

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through the approval process on our end

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>> and and I I understand that. I just I'm

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trying to find out what is our our

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process of order because um I mean I

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mean this is is

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uh kind of

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preliminary, right? Is that is that what

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I'm trying to I mean this this is not

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something that we're setting in stone at

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this point.

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>> We do not have a vote on this at all

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today.

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>> It will go to vote with the general

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plan.

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>> It's more

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>> the general plan.

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>> Correct. But but my understanding with

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the strategic plan is it's intended to run as as more of a nimble document in in unison with that general

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plan. Right. So

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>> we could be discussing topics of the

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strategic plan on a

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>> every council meeting basis. Yeah.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um and saying hey these are the focal

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points of

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>> for now

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>> of the meeting. And so, yeah, it might

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be true today, but it might not be true

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in a month because we might have

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different priorities or intentions that

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align with the general plan, but need

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constant addressing.

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>> And and that's kind of what I'm I'm what

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I'm getting at as we as I look at this.

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It seems like we're biting off a whole

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lot. Um, and and I see all these within

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a year kind of things. And I don't and

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my personal opinion again I don't run

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the staff but my personal opinion is our

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staff doesn't have time to meet all of

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these goals that that are being assigned

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to them in this plan. Um I know I don't

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have enough time to to help with you

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know to take a chunk of what the the

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council is being assigned in this

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strategic plan. U it just it seems like

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it's

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uh pretty general, pretty open for uh

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how we're actually going to do it. I

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don't I don't I really there there's

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very little in a lot of these things

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that are are specific on on what we're

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supposed to do. I'm not a politician.

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I'm not a uh a person that's going to go

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out and and meet with with uh developers

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trying to figure out how we're going to

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build a little main street in in the

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bottom of Woodland Hills. Um I and and

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I'm I think it's it seems like it's

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pretty pretty damn big to to take these

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bites that are that are laid out here.

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Just seems a little huge to me. It was

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my understanding, Brian, that uh that um

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Daniel from Sunrise met with each of the

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staff members and the mayor and kind of

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they they incorporated what their goals

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that they were already going to be

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trying to do into um the general plan as

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it was written and tried to make sure

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that it was in um in a collaborative

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manner and that then the department

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heads would each look at those and

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prioritize themselves.

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And then

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>> in part in part

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>> I did meet with him. Yeah.

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>> We went through these actually the goals

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and the timings

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>> were stuff that I helped set for him

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because you know most of these even

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though they say immediate one year it's

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really ongoing that is

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>> uh it's update the payment management

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plan immediate one year. Well that's

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really something we do every year. Um

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but they didn't meet with Joey.

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>> Um I don't

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>> they didn't meet with Lori. They didn't

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meet with me.

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>> Okay.

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>> I think they only met with Ted

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>> and and not Wayne either. Okay. Well,

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maybe that's part of

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>> part maybe that's part of this then I

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knew that they want we didn't want to go

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the committee didn't want to go too far

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down the path and then have it be a

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total change if we just started and then

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maybe could tweak along the way kind of

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like what we did with general plan.

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>> And I think what Brian's articulating

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here is is my feelings as well. right as

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I went through the general plan and I

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made all of of your guys' recommended

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edits and and the planning commission's

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edits and

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>> I feel like that document is is fairly

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well done. Um I can't say the same and I

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appreciate the sacrifice that's gone on

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but I can't say the same in this

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document. This feels a little hack and

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slash to me. Maybe it's just because

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it's a different

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uh

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representation than I thought the

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strategic plan would take.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um

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>> I think they didn't want to get it too

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concrete until they got the feedback.

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>> Okay.

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>> To say is I think maybe just based off

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of meeting with Ted then kind of would

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get a feel for it. I thought they were

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meeting with everyone but maybe they

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haven't got to that yet. And I would say

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that's a must. He needs to reach out to

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>> uh myself because, you know, I've got

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assignments on here and I'm just like,

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"Wow, okay. Didn't have that on my

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radar." And it might need to be,

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>> you know, or it might not be appropriate

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for me to run certain items here, right?

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Or, you know, I've got Jody right now in

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this document rolling out a new water

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communication plan, right? It's like,

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well, that I don't need Jod doing that.

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>> Yeah.

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>> You know, and that just doesn't

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necessarily make sense.

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>> Um,

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>> I'll I'll I'll uh reach back with them

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and uh make sure that they understand

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that we want it to be similar in process

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that we did the general plan.

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>> Maybe to give you a format of how he did

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the phone call so you understand about

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what he did, he told what's your three

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most immediate,

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>> what's your three intermediate goals and

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what's your three long-term goals? So I

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would talk to what what out of you plan

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kind of what my goals out of that were

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premed

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interview.

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Um so that's kind of the process you

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went through. Um I I agree. I think this

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is a good starting point. There needs a

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little bit of work. Uh the idea is to

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make this an implement implemented

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plan where the general plan is more of a

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guideline. this is something that we can

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um to help us move

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general plan ideas forward. So I think I

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think it's a good starting point. It

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probably just needs

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>> well and I want the I want the committee

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to understand that we really appreciate

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everything they're doing right. I don't

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want it to come across as this is

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garbage and redo it

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>> and we have them on the schedule to come

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and speak about this um in June. You had

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you you you texted me and said that they

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were coming I think it was the last

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meeting in June.

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>> Uh probably no

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>> that well I you and I have talked mayor

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we haven't talked but he gave because

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they cuz he had he had us he had us um

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me contact them and say what day can you

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come and present this to the council and

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it was in June not today. And so I was

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that's why I was a little confused we

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had it on the agenda today because we

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were told we couldn't have it on the

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agenda today.

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>> I probably put it I put it on the agenda

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today for us to be able to have this

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conversation so that hopefully that one

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will be

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>> but that's why they're not here cuz I

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was sitting there thinking yeah you told

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me that they couldn't come today cuz we

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were going to do budget and so they

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picked one of the days in

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>> well one of them couldn't make today.

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Yeah, one of them couldn't come today,

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but we did put them on the schedule for

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>> another council meeting.

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>> Yeah, we'll coordinate that.

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>> Okay.

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>> Um, any other questions

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here? Thoughts, concerns, procedural?

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>> So, that's why that's just why they're

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not here to answer their own questions

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because they didn't know they were going

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to be on the schedule. the June 23rd at

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6 PM is when we confirmed them to be on

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the agenda to come and and present this.

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>> So, they may have been thinking between

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now and then doing the interviews.

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>> Let we'll coordinate that

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>> schedules.

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>> Yeah, let's figure that one out offline

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here.

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>> Um,

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>> so they may be planning to meet with

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everybody in between now and then just

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because that was the time schedule.

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Is there anything you guys have, your

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thoughts, your feelings, your concerns

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here with this document knowing that it

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has hopefully quite a bit of work still

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to be done?

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» Yeah, I think they would be surprised we

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were talking about it actually

547
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cuz they weren't prepared to.

548
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760
>> No, not a problem.

549
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,159
>> Okay, then we will move to item number

550
00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:01,840
five, the discussion of the Utah

551
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,039
Wildland. um

552
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:07,280
memorandum of understanding between the

553
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,679
Utah Division of Forestry, Fire and

554
00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:12,080
State Land and Woodland Hills.

555
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,750
>> Ted,

556
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,120
» I have a concern raised by a citizen.

557
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,200
>> Yeah. So,

558
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,960
and and maybe explanation of what this

559
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,559
is, help alleviate that concern. So, we

560
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,640
have a

561
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,159
cooperating

562
00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:32,320
agreement with the Utah Division Forest

563
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,200
Reference State Lands. That cooperating

564
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,679
agreement is about outlining what

565
00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:40,720
>> could you try again?

566
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,240
>> She always questions me.

567
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,679
Um that cooperating agreement outlines

568
00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:50,400
the mitigation efforts that we have to

569
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,440
put in with our community in order for

570
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,760
the state to help us uh fiscally if

571
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,360
there is a fire that they help us with

572
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,600
in our city. Right? So in that

573
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,600
cooperating agreement for example,

574
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,400
basically the gist of it is

575
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,880
we have to do like 6,000 well might be

576
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,039
$8,000 worth of mitigation work every

577
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,200
year in our city. the equivalent of

578
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,039
$8,000,

579
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:16,799
which we usually have no problem meeting

580
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,640
with all the mitigation work we do.

581
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,880
We're usually three or four times that

582
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,200
by doing that $8,000 every year. By

583
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,559
meeting that, I have to report on it

584
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:27,360
every year. They agree on their end that

585
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,200
they will if there's a fire that kicks

586
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000
up in our city um in within our

587
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,600
municipal boundary, the state can be

588
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,720
called in to help us and we will not

589
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,120
have to pay the state for that, right?

590
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,200
they'll they'll not hit us financially

591
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760
for helping us. Um, that's the

592
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,679
agreement. What this is is a memorandum

593
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:47,360
of understanding that goes with that

594
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,880
agreement. This basically outlines our

595
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,679
full-time wildland crew and how they're

596
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:55,679
responding to our contracts with Utah

597
00:24:55,679 --> 00:24:57,440
Forestream Fire State Lands. So, this

598
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,320
really doesn't have anything to do with

599
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,360
our community mitigation. is what our

600
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,960
responsibilities are as far as our

601
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,919
wildland crew responding to national

602
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:08,640
events under our contract we have uh

603
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,679
with for fire state lands.

604
00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:13,279
And so it just outlines what we have to

605
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,679
do by our the type of truck we have to

606
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,600
have, the equipment has to carry, the

607
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,880
things we have to have on the truck, the

608
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,000
crew we have to have, the crews

609
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,080
qualifications, and then it outlines

610
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,720
what the what the u the state will do,

611
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,320
how they'll reimburse us, what we can be

612
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320
reimbured for, and stuff like that is

613
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,360
what thisou is for. So I know there was

614
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,840
a question that came up about uh it says

615
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,159
in the agreement

616
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,400
uh after all we can do, I think was the

617
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,480
comment one. I couldn't find that in

618
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,520
there, so I'm not sure if they had the

619
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,679
right one. Uh, I tried to call that

620
00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:44,880
resident, but I couldn't.

621
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,520
>> Okay.

622
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,520
>> So, you got the same email.

623
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,960
>> Yeah, tried to call them to find out

624
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,080
where they were seeing that, but it

625
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,120
really doesn't have anything to do with

626
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,720
what our community is doing. It's more

627
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,159
to do with what our wildlife crew does

628
00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:56,400
to this.

629
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,640
>> That was on my end.

630
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Ted and I talk a lot about all these

631
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,840
agreements that we have in place, and I

632
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,520
think I reflected the wrong one in our

633
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,880
in my video this week. Oh,

634
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,400
>> so

635
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,390
that's what this one is.

636
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,960
» Okay. Any questions for Ted on that one?

637
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,360
>> Right.

638
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,440
>> Can I ask a question?

639
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,080
>> In here it says the term of thisou shall

640
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,200
be five years. So are we committing then

641
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,840
to a wildland fire program and crew for

642
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,440
five years?

643
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,840
>> No. If we cancel our program, then the

644
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,720
contract just basically becomes invalid.

645
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,640
But but in five years, we have to renew

646
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,960
it if our program still.

647
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,480
>> So I just have a question. Since we all

648
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,240
received the same email from our

649
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,640
concerned citizens, have then do you

650
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,200
feel like if you do you did you were you

651
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,360
able to talk with them or not yet? Okay.

652
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,760
But but you will clarify with them

653
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320
eventually on all of these concerns that

654
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,360
they they gave us.

655
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:02,230
>> Yeah. There's really Yeah.

656
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:02,880
Wonderful.

657
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,400
>> And there's really nothing I mean the

658
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,159
term all we can do even if it's in the

659
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:08,320
agreement basically

660
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,080
what what we're agreeing to is we'll do

661
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,520
a certain as far as the actual

662
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,679
cooperative agreement not thisou we'll

663
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:15,039
do a certain dollar value worth of

664
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:16,400
mitigation in our city and then they

665
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,640
will

666
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,320
>> they will not bill us if they have to

667
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,400
come to our city to help fight the fire

668
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,279
>> and we way exceed that dollar.

669
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:26,720
>> Yeah. Yeah. It just went up this year.

670
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,240
It's a formula they use based on

671
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,919
historic fires, amount of damage, all

672
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:31,840
that kind of stuff. And our dollar value

673
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,120
is like eight I want to say it's around

674
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,720
8,000. I didn't look it up exactly. And

675
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520
like last year we did roughly $50,000.

676
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000
Uh and that was just with our crew that

677
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,559
wasn't residents. So with the residents,

678
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,400
we probably exceed that. So it's uh for

679
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,919
example, the Utah County has the same

680
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:52,000
agreement. They got to do about $600,000

681
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,640
worth of mitigation.

682
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200
>> And does ours help with our city to do

683
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,080
chipping.

684
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,360
>> When they're doing chipping our city, it

685
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,120
goes towards their match for their

686
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:01,919
operator.

687
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:04,240
>> Yeah. Everybody just wants to make sure

688
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,360
that uh that the cities who who

689
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,320
potentially would have state assistance

690
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,399
have, you know, skin in the game kind

691
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,159
of, you know, that we are doing all that

692
00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:18,480
we can do in terms of um not not

693
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,039
specifically that wordage, but that we

694
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:22,799
really are working on doing it. And

695
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,679
we're in our intent is to do what we can

696
00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:27,120
do

697
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:31,120
>> 100%. Perfect. Any other questions here?

698
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,520
>> Okay, Ted. Number six, discussion of the

699
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,679
CPR uh contract for the A uh pickle ball

700
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:39,279
grant.

701
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,159
>> Uh so you've got the contract. Uh we

702
00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:44,799
just need to sign it. The

703
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,520
uh we were obviously awarded the grant

704
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,000
money. Um just the dollar values on this

705
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,120
uh when the grant got submitted

706
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,279
um the

707
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:05,510
state is granting us 803,000ish.

708
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,430
No

709
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,159
83,177.50.

710
00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:18,000
>> Yeah. Yeah. 83,000. And so we have to

711
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,840
it's a 50% match. So we have to match

712
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,960
that 50%. Now we do have inind in that.

713
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,399
So we've got some residents are going to

714
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:26,960
provide some incind. Um we didn't have a

715
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,039
lot of inind. It was mostly because a

716
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,720
lot of this is specialized. So we had

717
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,480
excavation work which is a tune of about

718
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,279
$9,000 in kind. So we're on the hook for

719
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,919
70 somehat thousand uh for our match.

720
00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:40,080
However, uh said we went through the

721
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,440
budget today and um through budget

722
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,360
savings this year and primarily in snow

723
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,200
plowing, uh we have that budget money

724
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,559
available uh to meet that match.

725
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:53,600
So, I think we should be good on our end

726
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,039
to be able to meet the match dollars

727
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,320
through savings we have this year. Um

728
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,320
and then with our inind.

729
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,919
>> So, do you is there any need for uh PTR

730
00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:06,559
to sell bricks with and raise money

731
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:07,919
>> if they want to? That'd be great because

732
00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:09,200
a couple of things that weren't included

733
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,760
in the in the grant. And a few things we

734
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,279
thought of was like it'd be kind of nice

735
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:14,799
maybe to have a bench or two there. So

736
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,000
if they want to find some donors, we can

737
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,360
put some benches in so you can sit down

738
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,200
and watch uh next to the court. Um maybe

739
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,559
a little we put a little concrete with a

740
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:23,600
couple benches there or something like

741
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,760
that. So or maybe we can put benches and

742
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,120
put a little brick thing inlay there

743
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,640
with some names on it of donors and

744
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,039
stuff like that. Um, so it' be nice to

745
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,399
have I mean it's close enough to the

746
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:33,600
pavilion that people could sit in the

747
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,760
pavilion as well, but it might be nice

748
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440
to just have a couple benches for next

749
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
up or whatever. So if they, you know, we

750
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,760
can look for a few things like that that

751
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,070
were part of the grant.

752
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,480
» I want my name on a brick. Maybe we

753
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,480
could do a path between the pavilion and

754
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,559
the was that part of the path.

755
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,760
>> We did have a path included

756
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080
um

757
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,159
>> because we had the path the ADA path is

758
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:00,799
included, right?

759
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,159
>> Yeah. So, we've got an ADA path uh that

760
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:06,960
from the kind of parking area over to

761
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,799
the pickle ball court.

762
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:09,360
>> Yay.

763
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,919
>> Um one thing we talked about is if we

764
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:13,760
have some savings or some extra funding

765
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,360
with our road project, maybe we pave

766
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760
that parking area. That would be

767
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,080
beautiful.

768
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,200
>> That' be nice.

769
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,840
>> Is there a rendering of where it is,

770
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,480
where it's going to be, what's included?

771
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,440
>> I do have a uh we'll call it a site

772
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,919
plan.

773
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:28,399
>> Okay.

774
00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:29,279
>> Of it.

775
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:30,640
>> Does it include Well, I'm just wondering

776
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,880
if if that cost if it's just the

777
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,880
So, we've got the concrete pad

778
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,240
>> and I'm I'm not sure if we're going to

779
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,159
do the specialized coating.

780
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,080
>> We are.

781
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,240
>> And everything around it as well. The

782
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,480
cost included the engineers to design

783
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,279
it. Um,

784
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,919
uh, the contractor for compacted road

785
00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,320
base, post tension concrete slab,

786
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,159
acrylic surface, pickle ball sleeves,

787
00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:58,080
nets, poles, fencing and lighting, a

788
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,760
paved ADA path, and basketball

789
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,559
standards.

790
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,519
>> Are we doing lighting?

791
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,799
>> We got it in there if we want it.

792
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,399
>> There was some thought to do some

793
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:10,159
lighting on timers, so they'd have to go

794
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,399
off at a certain hour.

795
00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:16,399
>> Yeah. I just um I know that originally

796
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:17,840
when we first started talking about

797
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240
this, some of the people that live right

798
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,760
around there, of course, it's kind of

799
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,000
more central in the park, but some of

800
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,279
the neighbors were concerned about

801
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,279
lighting at night. And so, we had

802
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,720
promised at the time that we wouldn't do

803
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200
lighting, but it was also slightly

804
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,960
different location, so maybe that

805
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,919
matters.

806
00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:34,240
>> Yeah.

807
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,919
>> Well, and I think now if we have another

808
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,240
year like we did this past winter,

809
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,360
>> we'd use it a lot.

810
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,960
>> They might actually use them.

811
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,360
>> Yeah.

812
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,919
>> Right. versus we're used to having six

813
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:46,159
feet of snow in the park

814
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:49,200
>> most of the dark evenings.

815
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,679
Now we could have played all winter.

816
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:53,120
>> Well, even if it's snowed, I guarantee

817
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,799
you people will bring a shovel and clear

818
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,159
off the court.

819
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:00,320
>> I think it's more of the the lighting

820
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640
would be okay. It's the what time do we

821
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,120
end? Like, you know, oh, park closes at

822
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,960
10:00 p.m. Lights are out.

823
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,360
>> Yeah.

824
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,360
>> Kind of thing. Because And you're you're

825
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,000
right. in the winter dark at 4:30 or 5

826
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,600
where in the summer it's still light

827
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,120
till 9 or 10. So um not based more on um

828
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,120
the condition but the time of day

829
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,880
>> 100%.

830
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,640
>> We and maybe this is for a different

831
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,159
time. We talked about control of who

832
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:30,080
gets in there or we just going to leave

833
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840
it open anybody who shows up regardless.

834
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,960
>> Well I think because it's state funded

835
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,519
we have to leave it open. Anybody in the

836
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,760
state technically is a taxed,

837
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,360
>> but every city has them. They're not

838
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,720
going to drive up to Woodland Hills to

839
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,039
use ours because Are you thinking more

840
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,240
of that that one person doesn't just use

841
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,000
them constantly to where it doesn't

842
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,760
other people don't get a chance?

843
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,549
>> Just didn't know how much

844
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,120
I limitation we want to put on who

845
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,799
>> if it's going to cause an issue.

846
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:01,360
>> Yeah,

847
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840
>> it's okay. So part of the grant when we

848
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,039
got this, part of what you have to show

849
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:06,559
to get this grant money is that there's

850
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,200
some sort of regional benefits. So that

851
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200
was one of the points that we made is it

852
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,119
will help draw people to our beautiful

853
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,359
community and maybe we can start

854
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:17,200
sponsoring tournaments or something like

855
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,879
that.

856
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:20,639
>> Well, we know who to

857
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,000
>> We have a couple of the

858
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,440
familiar with our

859
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,839
>> We'll put Steve in charge of it.

860
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:29,119
Also,

861
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:30,879
>> well, you could start having a pickle

862
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:32,240
ball contest at

863
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:34,480
>> shutition at Woodland Hill State.

864
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,599
>> Yeah.

865
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,159
>> So, what's the timeline?

866
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,159
>> Uh, so we have 28 months to spend the

867
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,399
money, I think, is what the agreement

868
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:44,000
said. So, once it's signed, once it's

869
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,520
signed, we can start anytime on the

870
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,240
engineering design.

871
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,839
>> Get her done.

872
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:50,639
>> That's our plan is to see how quickly we

873
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:51,440
can't get it done.

874
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,679
>> We have the funding for it, so we get

875
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:54,639
going on it right away.

876
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,320
>> Okay. You just can't spend any money

877
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,839
until the contract signed.

878
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:03,359
>> Wonderful. Any other questions?

879
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:04,960
>> Okay, Ted.

880
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,040
>> Discussion phase three of the water.

881
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,560
>> All right. This one I need power. I need

882
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,990
to share my screen.

883
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,359
» Do you want me to do something up here,

884
00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:16,800
Jody?

885
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,720
>> No, he just needs to log into the Zoom

886
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:25,910
call.

887
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,400
Nobody was here.

888
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,400
>> And while he's going, just if for those

889
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,560
of you that don't know, which I believe

890
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,040
everybody in this room does, uh last

891
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,720
week we had um

892
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:42,240
a lot of fun uh dealing with some water

893
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,359
lines on Maple Drive. Uh we had

894
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:46,240
>> about that.

895
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:51,040
>> We did. So, we have were able to fix

896
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,520
that issue. Um, we also lost two PRVs

897
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,000
that we had to rebuild. So, it's in this

898
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,079
older section. It is where we are

899
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,200
striving hard to be able to hopefully

900
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,440
figure out what we need to do to to fix

901
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,079
this going forward. So,

902
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:09,599
that's kind of what prompted putting

903
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,599
this on the agenda for you guys to be

904
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,640
aware of where we're at with this

905
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,680
waterline infrastructure and possibly

906
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,599
how quickly we may need to move on this

907
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,400
>> and that would be considered phase four

908
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,520
though, right? The

909
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960
>> this is phase three,

910
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
>> but Maple because it's the water line

911
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,880
and the road.

912
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,000
>> No, so phase three of the pavement

913
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,720
management.

914
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:33,599
>> Oh, okay.

915
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,160
>> This is phase this is phase three. gist

916
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320
of the WA water phase project.

917
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,079
>> And I thought we were holding off on

918
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:41,839
that till we were doing both at the same

919
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:43,280
time for

920
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,599
>> Yeah. So the these roads aren't part of

921
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,760
the pavement management plan at all.

922
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,079
>> They're set aside waiting for the

923
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,079
waterline project that tackle those

924
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:53,520
roads and water lines.

925
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,320
>> Okay.

926
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,079
>> All right. So for this one, I'm just

927
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,599
going to go through give you a little

928
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,280
bit of

929
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,440
4hour discussion on this. Um so buckle

930
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,400
up. Are you sending us these slides?

931
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:06,880
>> Yeah,

932
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560
>> that would be nice if you could.

933
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,720
>> Um, so as mayor mentioned, last week we

934
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,640
had a waterline break. The way this

935
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,720
started, this waterline break, is we got

936
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,200
a call from a resident right down here

937
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,560
that said they were experiencing some

938
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640
high pressures.

939
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,880
So, usually when we get residents

940
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,240
experiencing high pressures, one of two

941
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,079
things. either their home PRB has went

942
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,320
out if they have one which is most

943
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,280
common because their home PRVS our city

944
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,079
pressures fluctuate and the home PRBs

945
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:37,920
are to stabilize cut that pressure from

946
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520
the city and stabilize it for your home

947
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000
appliances, right? So because our

948
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,440
pressures our pressures go up and down.

949
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,880
So usually it's their home PRBs that

950
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,760
went out. Uh, so Toby went down and he

951
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,599
put the pressure gauge on this guy's uh

952
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:53,760
um

953
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,000
>> process hydrant

954
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,320
and um it was reading really high. So we

955
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,320
knew okay our water line is higher than

956
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,079
it should be because this is our

957
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,240
pressure reducing valve right here in

958
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,640
our system and being only the second

959
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,240
house downstream. He should have been

960
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,400
much lower than what we were reading on.

961
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960
So, we knew we had a probably an issue

962
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,280
with our PRV.

963
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,599
So, we jumped in this vault here uh to

964
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,200
check out see where our pressures were.

965
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,069
Um it had no gauges.

966
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:27,839
It was almost done. It was about

967
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:31,280
twothirds of the way finished. So, Toby

968
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,359
and I got in and we got some gauges,

969
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,839
went down back in there, uh threw on

970
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:37,040
some gauges, got some really good

971
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,880
showers while we were doing it. Um, and

972
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,520
the gauges read high. So, we knew we had

973
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,960
an issue with those valves. So, we

974
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,880
started trying to turn the valves down

975
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,960
and they wouldn't adjust, which tells us

976
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,839
the valves had gone bad. So, there is

977
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,320
actually a manufacturer who has a

978
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,680
service rep that will come up and

979
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,880
service these valves for you. So, we

980
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,599
called him. He came up the next morning.

981
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,680
Uh, oh, sorry. Let me jump back. While

982
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,440
we were getting showered in this vault

983
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,400
here, uh, replacing

984
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,720
those air gauges, the water line blew up

985
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,880
right here.

986
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,560
And there was a series mayor come out

987
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440
and said, uh, resident down here was

988
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,480
called and they said they got a lot of

989
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,000
water running down the road.

990
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,520
>> So, we popped over here, looked at it,

991
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,720
and sure enough, there was a water lot

992
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,960
of water running down the road. Um, so

993
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
we went down, we shut down the water

994
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,599
system here. Um, so we didn't get a

995
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:28,880
chance to get back and kind of finish

996
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,119
what we were doing here. got a

997
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:32,560
contractor and started going on digging

998
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,200
up this water line. Called the rep. He

999
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,119
came up the next morning. So, we were

1000
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,119
kind of working on these this vault

1001
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:40,800
simultaneously working on this water

1002
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,560
line break. This right here is the pipe

1003
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,960
that that broke. Now, we'll come back to

1004
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,800
that in just a minute after I tell the

1005
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,880
story. So, um got these valves fixed and

1006
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,760
found out we still had high pressure.

1007
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,440
So, there are three PRV vaults that feed

1008
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,440
this zone,

1009
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,599
this pressure zone. So, we popped in

1010
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:05,920
this one and it looked like it was

1011
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,920
breeding bad. Went and jumped in this

1012
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,160
one. It was doing fine. Came back to

1013
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,440
this one and found out we had a bad

1014
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,079
valve in this one as well. And so, we

1015
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,400
ended up getting that valve rebuilt. So,

1016
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,920
we rebuilt there's two valves in this

1017
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,440
one, one in this one. We rebuilt three

1018
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,800
valves and then we got our pressure

1019
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,400
stabilized back to where they should be.

1020
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Uh now Wednesday night uh we called a

1021
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,960
contractor. This went about five five

1022
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960
o'clock when this blew somewhere around

1023
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,440
there. So we got a hold of a contractor,

1024
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,880
one of our on call contractors come up.

1025
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,000
We dug this up and uh found the leak

1026
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,079
that night. Had it had it repaired by

1027
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:41,440
about midnight that night. Got it all

1028
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,839
repaired. Got water back to people. We

1029
00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:48,790
left the hole open. Oh,

1030
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,200
we left the hole open so we could check

1031
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,359
it the next morning. went out that. So,

1032
00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:55,359
we put a repair sleeve around this. This

1033
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:57,040
was the hole that was in there. Now, one

1034
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,400
thing to note about this hole, you see

1035
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,280
how this is kind of this the scaration

1036
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,119
around it.

1037
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,440
>> That is the iron been eaten away. This

1038
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,319
is a duct iron pipe that's missing iron

1039
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:09,359
because it's been eaten away by

1040
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:10,880
corrosion.

1041
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,040
So, these pipes are corroding or not

1042
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,480
great shape. They're 50 plus years old.

1043
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,200
They're 6 in water lines. Now, minimum

1044
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,240
requires 8 in. Um, when you're looking

1045
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,319
at this type of pipe, ductal iron, the

1046
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,800
assumed life of this is 50 years old.

1047
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,119
That's in pretty good conditions. Uh,

1048
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:30,480
this pipe when it was installed back in

1049
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,160
the 70s, they put no pipe bedding around

1050
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,760
it. So, we were digging out rocks this

1051
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,680
big from around the pipe, which is also

1052
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,359
problematic around pipes.

1053
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:38,640
>> Pipes will actually vibrate in the

1054
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,920
ground if they're sitting on a big rock

1055
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,520
that's a point load on it, and it'll

1056
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,200
just wear a hole. We had that happen

1057
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,560
twice up here this last few months.

1058
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Um, so there were several issues when

1059
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,760
but anyway, we got this repaired, went

1060
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,760
out the next morning. We left it open so

1061
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,040
we could see make sure the repair was

1062
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,640
going to hold. Went out the next morning

1063
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,480
just above where we repair the pipe had

1064
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880
cracked overnight.

1065
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,560
>> So

1066
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,040
story is the pipe's in really bad shape

1067
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960
and we knew that, you know, 15 years

1068
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,240
old.

1069
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,920
>> Last time we did the waterline project,

1070
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,200
this was the same issues we were having

1071
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,960
and we had like five of these in two

1072
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,359
weeks. Um, so this is on borrowed time,

1073
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:20,480
not great shape.

1074
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,720
So we have been planning projects to

1075
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,480
replace these. Um, it's kind of hard to

1076
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,200
see in here.

1077
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,240
This is uh all our pipes right here

1078
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,079
that are where we still have all those

1079
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:39,440
old 50-year-old 6-in water lines. So

1080
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200
basically Maple, East Valley View, Lake

1081
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,040
View, Highline, Sky, uh Sky Lake,

1082
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Highline, Highline, Mountain Bell,

1083
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,040
Schoolhouse, and then we have a couple

1084
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,400
over here that still have a little bit

1085
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,240
in them, a little bit of settlement, and

1086
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,560
Homestead.

1087
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,760
These are all the ones where we still

1088
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,599
have all those old pipes. Now, in

1089
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:58,960
addition to the old pipes, we have old

1090
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,280
PRVs. That was the one that fell.

1091
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,720
Actually ended up finally, we found out

1092
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,119
was an old PRV, which ironically was

1093
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,359
missing some parts. We still can't

1094
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:08,640
figure out why

1095
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,550
>> um because it had never been

1096
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,400
» anyway. Um

1097
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,319
fire hydrants are old. When we when we

1098
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:21,599
opened a fire hydrant to um

1099
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,440
bleed out the air when we put water back

1100
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,920
in the water line, uh fire hydrant would

1101
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,160
shut back off. The nuts on it were so

1102
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,160
gone. It was just popping water out the

1103
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,520
top. So, we actually had to shut that

1104
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,359
fire hydrant off and it's taped now

1105
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:35,839
because the fire hydrant is no good.

1106
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:37,520
So these are all the areas where we have

1107
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,920
these bad water lines. Now

1108
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,640
>> it's a lot.

1109
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,280
>> What's that?

1110
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,000
>> That's a lot.

1111
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,359
>> It's a lot. It's

1112
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,280
>> This is the original part of the city.

1113
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,119
So that's why they're the pipes there

1114
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,680
are the are the oldest because that's

1115
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,640
the original city.

1116
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,240
>> I know. But I was hoping that we had

1117
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,160
more of it done than I mean we've done a

1118
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,040
lot. I get it.

1119
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,960
>> So we did about three and a half to four

1120
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,200
miles four years ago. Five years ago we

1121
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,040
did that project. This is about another

1122
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,440
three and a half to four miles of water

1123
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,040
lines.

1124
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,640
So, uh, I want to talk through it's

1125
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,040
about 3.6 miles and I'm going to say 3.6

1126
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,680
to four. Uh, these are kind of estimated

1127
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,079
numbers, not based on survey data, just

1128
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:19,839
based on

1129
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:22,720
Google GIS data. Um,

1130
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,240
>> and that's all of those those um streets

1131
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,160
there because they're not all named in

1132
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,720
your subsequent paragraphs there. So, I

1133
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,040
was just wondering, is it still covering

1134
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,309
everywhere from Maple to Skylake?

1135
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:38,800
» Yes.

1136
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,119
>> Okay.

1137
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:39,920
>> The project is

1138
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,680
>> Yeah, the project because it just said

1139
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,200
total replacement.

1140
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,520
>> Yeah.

1141
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,920
>> So, I just making sure the 3.6 included

1142
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,480
all of the streets.

1143
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,760
>> Well, we'll talk about that here in a

1144
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000
minute. That specific paragraph doesn't,

1145
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,440
but it's talking about something else.

1146
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,040
>> Okay. Um, so the total project cost is

1147
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,760
roughly six to $6.5 million to replace

1148
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,520
all these.

1149
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,400
Um, that's including replacing all the

1150
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,720
roads with them. So like we did on the

1151
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,400
last project, pulverize and repave all

1152
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,760
the roads. So they have new roads as

1153
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,760
well. If we took the roads out, it'd be

1154
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,079
roughly about $5 million to replace

1155
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,480
these. Now that includes a 15%

1156
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,160
contingency that we throw in there at a

1157
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:24,000
planning level. Um so we applied for uh

1158
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,280
community project funding through

1159
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Burgess Owen's office.

1160
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,280
Um the the we put in three different

1161
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,040
requests. Well, we started with one.

1162
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,520
They came back and asked us to give them

1163
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,640
two more. So we did. We submitted a

1164
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,920
request for $2.4 million to Burgess's

1165
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,720
office. Um well, we started out at

1166
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,640
almost five because you can go up to

1167
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,240
five. They said, "You're not going to

1168
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,560
get five. We don't we don't really do

1169
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,079
that. Most of our projects are million

1170
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,800
to billion and a half." So we said, but

1171
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,000
they said, "We know this is very

1172
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,839
important for you guys, so go ahead and

1173
00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:58,800
put in there a little bit bigger

1174
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,720
request." So we put in a $2.4 million

1175
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:05,280
request with a $750,000 city match. Um,

1176
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,200
and that would do Maple, Valley View,

1177
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Lake View, and Mountain Veil.

1178
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,520
at 3.15 million when you add those two

1179
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,640
up would do those streets.

1180
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,319
The middle funding request we did

1181
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:21,680
because he said well put in there you

1182
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,680
know a million million and a half. So we

1183
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
did a million and a half request with a

1184
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,359
750k which would basically do maple and mountain bell and then we put

1185
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:32,960
in a low funding request of a million

1186
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,760
with a 500 uh 500,000 match from the

1187
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,880
city which would basically just do

1188
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,280
maple. I think we're going to end up

1189
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,720
right around here is what we'll actually

1190
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,960
get for funding. Now, we ranked number

1191
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,520
four out of 20 on their project list.

1192
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,079
The response back from uh the person I

1193
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:49,920
was working with, the aid of purchase

1194
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,319
owners office, was that uh you guys are high enough on the ranking, you'll

1195
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:56,560
probably get something, but they just

1196
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,960
don't know what yet.

1197
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,960
>> Does this 1.5 and 2.4 plus the other is

1198
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,960
that with road replacement as well?

1199
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,880
>> Yes. Yeah. All with road replacement.

1200
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,560
Yeah.

1201
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,480
Um, so now you get an idea of kind of

1202
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,920
what we've put in for funding, what the

1203
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,000
total project scale and costs are. So

1204
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,880
then I started doing some

1205
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,400
putting together some information about

1206
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,000
some possible funding scenarios, just

1207
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,440
things to noodle over as we think about

1208
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,680
this. I think what's going to be uh

1209
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,040
we'll we'll talk about here in just a

1210
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,200
minute. So when you look at funding

1211
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,560
through the state division of drinking

1212
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,000
water, which is probably the most

1213
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,920
popular funding agency in the state,

1214
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,280
you've also got rural water and CIB. uh

1215
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,599
I don't think we'd qualify or or do real

1216
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,560
well at CIB. Rural water uh is is a good

1217
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,920
funding organization as well. You

1218
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,359
typically don't get as good a terms with

1219
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:44,880
them as you do the state division

1220
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,200
drinking water. Um so most of them go

1221
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,319
through the state division drinking

1222
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,800
water. They have criteria they set to

1223
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,440
determine um how you get loans and

1224
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,839
grants. So they look at your affordable

1225
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:57,839
water bill is what they call it and they

1226
00:47:57,839 --> 00:47:59,599
assume affordable water bill for a

1227
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,640
community is 1.75% of your median

1228
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,800
adjusted gross income.

1229
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,640
The median adjusted gross income for

1230
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Woodland Hills right now is $91,000.

1231
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,359
So if you take 1.75% of that, then you

1232
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:15,280
got to do divided by 12 to put it into a

1233
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,240
monthly bill. That's $132 is what the

1234
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:19,920
state says we can afford based on our

1235
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,839
income in our community a month for a

1236
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:26,160
water bill. Right now uh based on 2025

1237
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,319
water usage data, our average water bill

1238
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,640
is around $127.

1239
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Now, what they use that for is they say

1240
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,480
anything once you get above if you have

1241
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,640
to take up funding that puts your

1242
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,880
affordable water bill above what we

1243
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,640
think it should be, then you start

1244
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,400
qualifying for grant and no interest

1245
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,119
loans. And that's what we got last time.

1246
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:46,800
There's no guarantee on those and what

1247
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,760
you get. So, you can see we're really

1248
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,880
pushing that limit right now to get be

1249
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,440
eligible for grant money

1250
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,440
and low interest loans. And it all

1251
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,920
depends on how much the state has. So

1252
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,640
potentially if we went for a loan from

1253
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,800
the state beyond $1 million, we would

1254
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,079
start looking at probably getting some

1255
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,240
grant dollars. But what that looks like,

1256
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,160
I don't know.

1257
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:10,640
>> Um,

1258
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,480
>> and a prerequisite is we'd have to

1259
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,760
increase the water.

1260
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,200
>> We'd have to increase our water rate to

1261
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,480
at least $132 average water bill. So by

1262
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,920
five bucks a month, that would get us

1263
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,480
about a million dollars,

1264
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,079
>> which doesn't go very far in our

1265
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:27,599
projects. And as you can see back in our

1266
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,280
projects that basically gets maple.

1267
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,920
>> Yeah. Gets m one one one road done and

1268
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,240
but that's that increases for the entire

1269
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:35,440
city.

1270
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,480
>> So the typical loan rate uh at drinking

1271
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,920
water just information is usually 2 to

1272
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,079
4% in their terms three years. So then I

1273
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:43,520
looked at a few different scenarios

1274
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,280
based on what we got from what we've

1275
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,599
requested from Burgess's office. So if

1276
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,280
we went through for that package with

1277
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,200
the total fund of 3.15 million which was

1278
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,480
the 2.4 work from their office plus the

1279
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,160
75 we would contribute. Um the balance

1280
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,920
to be funded of the total project is

1281
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,599
three and a half million. We would have

1282
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,359
to raise our water bill to about $148.

1283
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:07,760
So it' go up by about 20 bucks a month.

1284
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,480
Um now that could vary a bit depending

1285
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,440
on how much grant we would get or low

1286
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,160
interest loan. This all assumed a 3%

1287
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,920
interest

1288
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,559
on a loan 30-year loan. the middle

1289
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,319
funding scenario, then we're we're

1290
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:25,599
looking at needing about 4.37 million uh

1291
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,599
as far as loan money goes from the

1292
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:28,800
state, which we'd have to raise our

1293
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,280
water bill 160. And then if we did got

1294
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,119
the lowest

1295
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,119
amount from Owen's office, then we're

1296
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:36,640
looking at we'd need probably still $5

1297
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,880
million and we'd have a water we'd have

1298
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,040
to raise our water bill somewhere 165.

1299
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,880
Now, those are assuming we got no grant

1300
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,839
money or 0% interest, which we likely

1301
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:48,720
would. But the state, until you go to

1302
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,880
the state, they just

1303
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,319
it all depends on how much money they

1304
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:53,760
have. They have two different funds.

1305
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,680
They have state funds and federal funds.

1306
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,280
Uh state funds are usually don't they

1307
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,240
don't have a lot of and that's where

1308
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,839
their grant money comes from. Federal

1309
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:01,440
funds is usually where all their money

1310
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,359
where they house most all their money

1311
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:07,829
and that's all loan money.

1312
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:09,920
So, I just wanted to run that by you

1313
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,119
guys. start thinking about that. Um,

1314
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,640
this is really what it would take to be

1315
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,630
able to do these projects.

1316
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,079
Now, caveat this by saying all of this

1317
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,520
funding comes from uh our water is an

1318
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,559
enterprise fund as you guys know. So,

1319
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,040
all of this money comes from water rates

1320
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,240
is how we have to pay for these

1321
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,160
projects. We can't come from the general

1322
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,280
fund. So, property taxes aren't used for

1323
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,240
this. um looking at trying to find

1324
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:43,359
places in the general fund budget to cut

1325
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:45,520
wouldn't would work for this project

1326
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,200
because it has to come from our water.

1327
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,520
>> Yeah. Because I'm in my head thinking

1328
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,200
hearing people complain that we're going

1329
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,720
to spend money on pickle ball courts

1330
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:53,680
when we have

1331
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,960
>> Yeah. two water lines.

1332
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,200
>> Two separate things. The the the

1333
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,720
pickleball course general fund. This is

1334
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,480
water. The only thing we really have in

1335
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,640
water is our operations and maintenance.

1336
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,079
And we do have a portion of a couple of

1337
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,160
ours uh salaries and that's really all

1338
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,839
we have in our water fund.

1339
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:11,040
>> That's just a portion of them. So even

1340
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200
if we I mean there's really nothing in

1341
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,240
the water fund to cut

1342
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,240
>> and that is state statute that water has

1343
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,000
to pay for water. It's not a Woodland

1344
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Hills decision to do this. That's

1345
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,800
because it's an enterprise fund and it's use based.

1346
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,920
>> I get it. I'm just getting ready for the

1347
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,599
comments. Cutting items from general

1348
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:33,440
fund wouldn't work for this. Slashing

1349
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,839
salaries, slashing road funds, slashing

1350
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:37,839
pickle ball courts, slashing park

1351
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:39,280
doesn't work for this. It has to come

1352
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,440
from the water.

1353
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,549
>> Okay.

1354
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,400
» Well, thank you Ted for that uh

1355
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,440
wonderful news.

1356
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,040
>> And if you can send us your slides, that

1357
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,400
would be great.

1358
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,920
>> Any questions for Ted? Um, as we as we

1359
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,440
go forward, um, obviously we can't fix

1360
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920
the past, but as we go forward, are we

1361
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,440
keeping a useful life analysis and

1362
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,680
putting reserves in place and all that?

1363
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,960
So, you know, 45 years from now when

1364
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,559
we're

1365
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:13,280
replacing the the newest stuff we have,

1366
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,480
we aren't putting this burden on

1367
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,760
>> the other residents.

1368
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Uh it's an interesting question. The

1369
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,599
answer is sort of.

1370
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:27,440
So uh when you

1371
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,200
>> ketchup we could save.

1372
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,680
>> Yeah. Yeah. Once again it has to be

1373
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,319
something saved in the water fund. And

1374
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:37,680
the way you acrew additional funds for

1375
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,839
the water fund is basically raise your

1376
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:42,079
rates. So it's always that fine balance

1377
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:43,760
of affordability for our residents

1378
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,559
versus what we want to do in the future.

1379
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:49,359
So we don't have to continue people ask

1380
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:52,400
for loans. Now you know loans aren't bad

1381
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,960
things. Uh I know we think of them

1382
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,400
personally like a loan is not a great

1383
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,559
thing but for cities it's actually not

1384
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,119
bad to use your money that way. Um you

1385
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:02,720
can leverage your money a lot farther by

1386
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,200
doing that. However the state does

1387
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200
require us when we do go in for a loan

1388
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,040
or grant money. We have to show that we

1389
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,040
are setting aside money every year for

1390
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,599
future replacement. The way we do that

1391
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,839
is we either add a a value to our when

1392
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:22,160
we calculate our total costs, we have to

1393
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,200
add a value to that of 1.1 1.2 times

1394
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,920
what our cost is. So we're saving 10 20%

1395
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,200
more through our water rate adjustment

1396
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,720
or we do that. The way we do it more

1397
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,440
often is we de depreciate our water

1398
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,079
system. those depreciations are are

1399
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:42,160
dollars that translate into.

1400
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,680
So the answer is is we do

1401
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,200
um and that's where for example our

1402
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,440
match dollars for this loan money will

1403
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,559
come from um will be from that money

1404
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,240
that we've saved through depreciation of

1405
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:59,440
our system. Now um it's always a

1406
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,559
challenge because when you're talking 5

1407
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:01,760
million that takes a long time for a

1408
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,520
community like ours to solve. So likely

1409
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,480
you're going to have to go out and get

1410
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,000
some sort of financing, but the best way

1411
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,079
to do that is through having some match

1412
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,000
dollars through saving some money,

1413
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,599
>> grand low interest. Yeah.

1414
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:12,240
>> Yeah.

1415
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:16,160
>> So just let you know, this proposed 2026

1416
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,119
2027 budget, that depreciation number

1417
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:21,680
that we're socking away for the the next

1418
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,230
future is $247,396.

1419
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,400
Um that is headed back into the account

1420
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,480
as a line item here. And we have to

1421
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,240
report that to drinking water when we go

1422
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,280
to law. Then we do depreciation system.

1423
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,280
So that's good. And there's also a

1424
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,000
balance because they um as as our city

1425
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,920
is run on taxpayer dollars, they don't

1426
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,400
want the state overall in statute

1427
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,920
doesn't want us to just be hoarding

1428
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,960
money because if you're keeping it

1429
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,640
stockpiled, but if you have it for a

1430
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,200
capital project or for enterprise fund

1431
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,160
like water, then you can justify that

1432
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,799
why you're keeping this money in a in a

1433
00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:02,160
special space

1434
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,760
>> to use for future. You're not just

1435
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,839
hoarding it just in case. Yeah,

1436
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:08,400
>> I mean we can do up um most of the

1437
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
cities have 35% in a rainy day fund for

1438
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,960
emergencies although that the

1439
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,720
legislature is thinking of moving that

1440
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:16,880
back to 25%

1441
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,119
which I don't agree with because

1442
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,119
emergencies are cost more costly now

1443
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,839
than ever but um on the water funds but

1444
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:25,280
if you can show that it's a certain

1445
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,920
percentage of the bill and that it's

1446
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,720
going towards future replacement then

1447
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:36,640
they're more likely to understand and approve of your justific ification.

1448
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,280
>> Gotcha.

1449
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,960
>> So, just one final item on this. The

1450
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,240
Division of Drinking Water right now has

1451
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:42,640
a moratorum and we're testing funding.

1452
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,599
It will open up again July 1, and

1453
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:46,880
they're going to hit be hit with a lot

1454
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,960
of applications July 1.

1455
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,040
>> Um, if we're thinking about this, we may

1456
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,559
want to get our application in the

1457
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:55,040
queue. Um, the reason they put a

1458
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,200
six-month moratorum on funding

1459
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,319
applications was because they were

1460
00:56:58,319 --> 00:56:59,920
trying to get a handle on their money

1461
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,599
when all that ARPA money was happening.

1462
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:02,880
they were getting so many applications

1463
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,559
and so many um funds going out and

1464
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:07,760
coming in that they couldn't keep track

1465
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,359
of it all. So they shut down so they can

1466
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:11,520
get a handle on everything.

1467
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,079
So we may want to get in the queue and

1468
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:15,920
get an application into them. And so we

1469
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,640
have to decide what we want to do as far

1470
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,119
as the type of application. Do we want

1471
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:23,680
to look at water rate increase

1472
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,040
or wait till we hear on Burgess Owens?

1473
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,680
>> Do we have a timeline at all on on

1474
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,319
Congressman Owens? um approval.

1475
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:33,839
>> No, Jody's looked up some stuff today.

1476
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:35,040
It looks like historically it's kind of

1477
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,480
been what was it? May, July, and

1478
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,079
>> like that. So,

1479
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:41,440
>> sometime between now and the end of the

1480
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,240
year.

1481
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,000
>> And I asked him, that's what they said,

1482
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,440
but I didn't know if they'd given you

1483
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,880
anything else. No,

1484
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,960
>> it looks like July isn't when they do a

1485
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,640
lot of big ones. But um

1486
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,119
the HUD housing is also part of that um

1487
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,880
community funding project and that was

1488
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,839
put on hold recently as well.

1489
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,839
>> So as they're getting these funding back

1490
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:09,270
up seems like they're starting to work.

1491
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,599
» One one more question that that's

1492
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:13,359
probably going to be a very unpopular

1493
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,040
question, but um

1494
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,880
>> we like those ones. Carry on,

1495
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,640
>> especially when they're coming from me.

1496
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,319
Um,

1497
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:22,079
so

1498
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:25,200
had the three bridges gone through

1499
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Maple? Yeah, I know. Um, would that have

1500
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,079
been any benefit to the city in terms of

1501
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:34,799
use or impact or anything like that that

1502
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,960
could have, you know, and I'm asking a

1503
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,240
real question because it's important

1504
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,720
dialogue for all of us to understand as

1505
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,280
we're making decisions,

1506
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,200
right?

1507
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,839
is could there have I mean we can't

1508
00:58:47,839 --> 00:58:49,440
rewrite the past but

1509
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,760
>> yeah I guess that depends on what you're

1510
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,680
talking about in uh certainly for the

1511
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,559
residents on maple probably not uh

1512
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,040
benefit um probably more of a hindrance

1513
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:01,599
there

1514
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:03,599
>> cars going for sure

1515
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:04,960
>> when you're talking about city

1516
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,400
infrastructure

1517
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,960
>> specifically um one of the requirements

1518
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,599
were would have been that road would

1519
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:13,200
have had to been redone but in order to

1520
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,400
redo the road we have to do the water

1521
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,640
line So I I don't know what we would

1522
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,920
have negotiated with them because we

1523
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,640
didn't get that far, but uh I I the the

1524
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,559
road wouldn't have met the standard. Uh

1525
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:24,640
so they would have had to minimum redid

1526
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,760
the road, but we wouldn't want to do

1527
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,359
that without doing the water line. So

1528
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:28,799
there could have been some shared cost

1529
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:30,160
or something there,

1530
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,839
>> which is the minimal part because the

1531
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:33,760
water line is the more expensive part.

1532
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,359
>> Yeah. No, and I only ask a question

1533
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:36,799
because I know it's a very unpopular

1534
00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:39,520
thing, but it quite possibly could have

1535
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,799
been a strategic thing. So yeah.

1536
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:46,480
>> Okay. Thanks. Good to know.

1537
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,440
>> Of course.

1538
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,240
>> So Ted, you had you had uh put quite a

1539
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:56,240
bit of money into your PRV survey. Um is this something you need to go back to

1540
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,720
them? Because if you had two PRVs that

1541
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,119
were missing gauges and and things like

1542
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:02,720
that, is this something that you're

1543
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,480
concerned about? Is this something we

1544
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,760
need to look into more?

1545
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,119
>> Uh yes. and and actually so they did go

1546
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:13,520
through all the PRVs kind of and made a

1547
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,680
list of things that need to be fixed.

1548
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,520
We've been slowly working on those. We

1549
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,040
actually did have in the notes from that

1550
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,160
survey that there were no pressure

1551
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
gauges in that vault. Uh so that's

1552
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,799
something that identified. Uh we just

1553
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:27,200
hadn't gone to that vault. It's actually

1554
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,119
not as old as some of our others because

1555
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:30,559
it's in Woodland Hills Drive which was

1556
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:33,280
done about 2013 2014

1557
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,359
>> when that vault was put in. Uh so it's

1558
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,040
not as old as our ones over in Maple and

1559
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,160
that. Um, so it wasn't kind of a

1560
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,079
priority vault, but they had identified

1561
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,240
that it didn't have gauges in it.

1562
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,440
>> Okay. And they wouldn't have known

1563
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,599
missing parts, so that that that's

1564
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:48,880
reasonable. Yeah,

1565
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,400
>> that was very interesting. Those valves

1566
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,079
were dated 2013 and they had no springs

1567
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,319
in them.

1568
01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:56,640
>> Those are optional.

1569
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,240
>> No,

1570
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,240
>> especially when you know those springs

1571
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,839
were replaced by those three rocks you

1572
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:02,559
pulled out.

1573
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,400
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of rocks

1574
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,839
that came out of those things and

1575
01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:07,920
>> Yeah, they were

1576
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,960
a good inch.

1577
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,720
>> It's been It's been a lot of fun. I

1578
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,000
mean, we get new and interesting

1579
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,920
challenges every day in the city. So,

1580
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,680
it's a it's it's it's a lot of fun

1581
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,000
working here. It keeps it lively.

1582
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,720
>> Well, I mean, it's it's super urgent now

1583
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,119
because when you start repairing lines,

1584
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:25,760
it surges pressure in other places that

1585
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,559
might have been fine otherwise for a

1586
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:29,920
little bit longer. Now, all of a sudden,

1587
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,000
it's going to start a chain reaction.

1588
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,520
>> And that's what we think happened here.

1589
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,280
It may have been that when that one

1590
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,520
vault on PRV on Valley View, that's the

1591
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,240
one ultimately we decided went out. Uh

1592
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,640
it it probably surged and popped that

1593
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:43,760
hole.

1594
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,160
>> Um and and we can I mean we get surges

1595
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,440
in our lines all the time, right? You

1596
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,200
close the fire too fast causes a surge

1597
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,319
and stuff like that. And that's why we

1598
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:52,160
always encourage homeowners, make sure

1599
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,119
you've got your PRVs

1600
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:56,880
current in your house because that's

1601
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,160
what protects their home.

1602
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,319
>> Yeah. And that's so hard for people to

1603
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:02,079
even understand that it's their

1604
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:05,040
responsibility and they don't ha

1605
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,400
especially if you're not the one who

1606
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,400
built the home and put it in originally.

1607
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,720
You might not know when it was last

1608
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,319
replaced.

1609
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:14,319
>> So I need to put that on our list of

1610
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:15,359
videos to do.

1611
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:15,839
>> Uhhuh.

1612
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:18,799
>> Could do. We've done a TED talk on it on

1613
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:20,720
the newsletter. We could do a video just

1614
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,440
Yeah. 10 years. If your if your PRV

1615
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,720
hasn't been replaced in 10 years, it's

1616
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,839
time to replace it. That's about the

1617
01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:28,559
life of those PRVs. I think a video

1618
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:29,920
would be good. I know you we've done the

1619
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,119
TED talk, but a video would be good.

1620
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:34,960
>> Perfect. Okay. Any other questions on

1621
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,400
the waterline potential need?

1622
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,240
And one thing that I found fascinating

1623
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,920
because, you know, it was fun, I was

1624
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,599
able to Ted didn't kick me out of the

1625
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:46,559
project, so I was able to hang out. Um,

1626
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:49,200
but that impact zone you saw on top of

1627
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,839
the pipe, that was the rock. You could

1628
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:53,599
see that was the impact. That was the

1629
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,440
size of the rock that was sitting there.

1630
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,480
And as those pipes are working, they are

1631
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,760
vibrating just enough that that rock sat

1632
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,440
there and just vibrated the daylights

1633
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,440
out of it. And with the amount of rocks

1634
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,319
we pulled out of that that night, you

1635
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:11,040
could tell that this is the norm across

1636
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:16,000
that line. And we will have problems

1637
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,720
in the near future on that line.

1638
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,480
>> We now require a pipe bedding around all

1639
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,319
the pipes. And we have I mean they have

1640
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:23,599
to put a nice bedding around all the

1641
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:24,960
pipes so we don't get all the rocks and

1642
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,160
stuff like that.

1643
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,760
>> Um we've even had leaks in pipes that

1644
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,960
were put in in probably 2000.

1645
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,039
So a little more recent that you didn't

1646
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:36,640
have pipe heading either. Same thing

1647
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,960
rocks were a hole in them. And

1648
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,720
>> so

1649
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,359
>> yeah. So something to just think about

1650
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:45,119
as we think about the future. What are

1651
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:46,799
those financial needs that we have? This

1652
01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:49,760
one I think is one of the highest.

1653
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,319
>> Okay. Um, Ted, are you joining us on

1654
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:56,799
this vacation portion or will that be

1655
01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:00,069
you, Wayne?

1656
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:02,880
» Vacation of the road?

1657
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,799
>> T's probably more familiar with.

1658
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:06,240
>> Okay, then let's just skip there. I'm

1659
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,720
going to skip to number nine. Um, with

1660
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,559
Bucky on the line as well. We're going

1661
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,400
to discuss the request for Woodland Hill

1662
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,319
City to vacate a portion of a road.

1663
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:19,920
>> Yeah. So this is um a piece of road that

1664
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,760
probably should have brought the map. Um

1665
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,000
when what we call South Loafer was

1666
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,640
originally platted, it was platted to

1667
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,920
come all the way through and connect to

1668
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,839
Bear Hollow.

1669
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:33,440
Um when Summit Creek uh finished South

1670
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,920
Loper and it's a private road. Um

1671
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,839
initially was a public road, it went to

1672
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:41,760
private road. Um they then made a

1673
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,319
culde-sac out of it and didn't bring

1674
01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:47,200
that last little piece through. It's

1675
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,440
150ish ft

1676
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,720
um through to Bear Hollow.

1677
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,760
So, we now have this piece of city

1678
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,319
rideway property

1679
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:01,520
um that used to be South Loafer. It's

1680
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,480
about it's 56 ft wide. Um it's a road

1681
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,920
rideway. Uh I think it's 160ish

1682
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,039
feet long somewhere around there.

1683
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,920
>> It's like two2.

1684
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,799
>> Yeah. Um, it sits between two lots on

1685
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:16,880
Bear Hall.

1686
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,839
>> Um, we really have no use for that

1687
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:22,640
property,

1688
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,200
a city property. Uh, it's just surplus

1689
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,640
property to us that we wouldn't have any

1690
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,839
use for. Um, Bucky with Summer Creek has

1691
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:31,119
approached us and asked if we'd be

1692
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,680
interested in selling that property. Um,

1693
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,079
it it would be beneficial to them to

1694
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:38,640
access a couple of lots that they are

1695
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,520
included in their development.

1696
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,119
And so we uh got

1697
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,680
>> 2.4 million.

1698
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:48,319
>> Oh yeah.

1699
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:49,760
>> They're going to replace all the water

1700
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:50,400
lines for us.

1701
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,319
>> Oh, Becky doesn't have a smiley picture

1702
01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:54,799
up.

1703
01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:56,960
>> Silence is acceptance.

1704
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,240
>> I just died. I I'm not sure about that

1705
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,870
one.

1706
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,839
» Acceptance.

1707
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:11,920
So they have approached. it would it would be beneficial for them to

1708
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:12,960
access some of their properties. They

1709
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,319
approached us about purchasing it from

1710
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:19,359
us uh this right away. Um we did some

1711
01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:22,319
back of the napkin numbers

1712
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:24,160
um and the way

1713
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,280
>> back napkin involved

1714
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,960
>> and and when you say back of the napkin

1715
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,359
that's not really did some research I

1716
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:31,520
guess is a better way to put it. Um

1717
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,839
because I I I I I've researched I' I've

1718
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,119
been involved in these transactions

1719
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:37,039
quite a bit for stuff like this over my

1720
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:39,760
consulting years and also did some

1721
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,520
research into UD do how they do this

1722
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,160
kind of stuff. Um really the value of

1723
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,720
the property um in the end is what

1724
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,559
someone's willing to pay for it. But the

1725
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:49,839
way you value this property is not like

1726
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,000
a typical lot. you kind of value what

1727
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,640
property might go around it and then you

1728
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,799
come up with kind of a square footage

1729
01:06:56,799 --> 01:06:59,599
cost that then you apply to this and

1730
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,599
because it's unimproved lot and it's a

1731
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:03,119
rightaway

1732
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:06,799
um it its value can be anywhere from 20

1733
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:09,200
to 50% of the value of the property

1734
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,240
around it and so I think we came up with

1735
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,880
a value of that 20 to 30,000ish for this

1736
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,480
piece

1737
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,359
um of road right Okay. Um I think we

1738
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:26,480
kind of settled in the middle.

1739
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,280
Maybe that's 25,000

1740
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,960
um

1741
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,400
for this piece of property.

1742
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,480
If the city wants to anything over

1743
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,839
20,000 has to come to council as a

1744
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:40,079
surplus. Um I don't see us having any

1745
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:42,640
use for that property in the future. Uh

1746
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,240
it's too small. We could not do anything

1747
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,960
with it. Um it's in a location we

1748
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,240
wouldn't we wouldn't have anything to do

1749
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,799
with. Um, so the question is, do we want

1750
01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:52,640
to surplus it? Now, Wayne brought up a

1751
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,920
couple of points today that we got to

1752
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,559
think about. Uh, if this gets included

1753
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:58,960
as uh a parcel to one of those lots,

1754
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,119
does it create a flag lot? So, we got to

1755
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:04,240
think about that. And then, um, the

1756
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,839
frontage, Wayne, did you look at the

1757
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:07,200
frontage issue?

1758
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,039
>> Yes. 60 ft required.

1759
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,599
>> So, 60 ft and this is a 56 foot rideway.

1760
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:12,000
Um,

1761
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,599
>> I think this would just be access. I

1762
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,119
think the frontage would actually be on

1763
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:16,640
that street behind it.

1764
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,159
>> South Loafer. This is Yeah, this is an

1765
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:19,679
access. It's not really a lot. It's an

1766
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:21,520
access to the lots.

1767
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,400
>> Yeah.

1768
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,159
>> So, be a shared driveway. So, I don't

1769
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:27,520
think I don't think flag, correct me if

1770
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,719
I'm wrong here, but I don't think the

1771
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:30,960
flag lot's really an issue because that

1772
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,199
frontage they have that 100 footage of

1773
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:34,000
frontage.

1774
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:34,560
>> Yeah.

1775
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,359
>> That would be depending on how we're

1776
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,279
defining frontage. If their homes are

1777
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:44,000
facing that culde-sac instead of facing

1778
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,600
what is that? Bear hollow.

1779
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,600
>> Yeah. Um then it's just the access and

1780
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,239
their frontage is actually facing which

1781
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:54,159
they have more than 100 feet.

1782
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:55,679
>> Yeah. And that was kind of just a couple

1783
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,440
things I brought up to think about. Um

1784
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:58,880
and I don't know the plan, Bucky. I'm

1785
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,640
guessing they would f face south loafer

1786
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,080
because that's all the houses on that

1787
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,279
street do.

1788
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:04,880
>> This access would probably come in to

1789
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,480
the side of the house, I'm guessing, or

1790
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:06,960
something like that.

1791
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:15,349
>> Do you have any insight on that, Bucky?

1792
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:16,960
You're muted if you're trying to talk

1793
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,920
right now. Bucky,

1794
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,920
>> he had a prior commitment tonight and he

1795
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,000
was gonna kind of

1796
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,239
>> Sorry. Can you hear me? Okay.

1797
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:25,520
>> Yes, we can hear you.

1798
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,679
>> I I didn't realize I was muted.

1799
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:32,560
>> Um, yeah. So, the houses would face,

1800
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,319
you know, I'm not really I'm not really

1801
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:37,199
certain. And it's hard without a design,

1802
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:39,920
but I think they would face probably

1803
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,480
towards the the private road down below.

1804
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:44,799
Just

1805
01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:46,400
>> a souther.

1806
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,960
>> Yeah, south loafer. Yeah, that's just a

1807
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,799
steep driveway. If we come off souther

1808
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:55,679
to get up to those houses, it's doable.

1809
01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:59,280
It just with that little access there,

1810
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,480
it it makes it makes it easier to get to

1811
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:05,440
those lots and easier driveway for those

1812
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:11,360
lots. Um, but uh yeah, I mean I think I

1813
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,440
think the frontage I think the I think

1814
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,560
the houses would face towards South

1815
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,040
Loper. That was the question, right?

1816
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,320
>> Correct.

1817
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,080
>> So my question is so would it be a

1818
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,360
vacation of that lot or a sale? I mean

1819
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,239
of that property or as a road or would

1820
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:31,120
it be the sale of that property for a

1821
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,280
private access to those lots?

1822
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,080
>> When you look at the county plat, it is

1823
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,280
road.

1824
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,679
>> So we would have to vacate it through a

1825
01:10:41,679 --> 01:10:43,040
cell.

1826
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,120
>> Um and thus we need to go to a public

1827
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,520
hearing for its land use.

1828
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,080
>> Um

1829
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,239
>> then they could put in a road petition

1830
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:52,000
to put in a road on that vacated

1831
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:52,560
property.

1832
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,800
>> It would be a driveway. It would be

1833
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,320
public or private property,

1834
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,120
>> private driveway.

1835
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,280
>> It would be, I assume, probably jointly

1836
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,400
owned or one lot would own it and the

1837
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,640
other would be have a an easement on it

1838
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,920
or something like that, right, Bucky?

1839
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,840
>> Yeah. Yeah, there would be it would be a

1840
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,280
shared driveway. Um,

1841
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,760
uh, probably the HOA would actually own

1842
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,600
the property and then we would just

1843
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,400
record needs met across across the

1844
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,679
property for both both lots to access it

1845
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:28,310
for a driveway.

1846
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:28,960
» Okay.

1847
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,640
>> And that road uh, that we're talking

1848
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,640
about, the south is a private road as

1849
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:32,880
well,

1850
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,360
>> right?

1851
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,480
>> It's not a public road.

1852
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,830
>> Yep.

1853
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,360
» Okay. Any other questions?

1854
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,480
>> Really wide driveway. Yeah. Any other

1855
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:47,510
questions for Ted or uh Bucky?

1856
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,360
» Yeah, there's some procedural things we

1857
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,040
wanted that we're going to need to go

1858
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,199
through because this is, you know,

1859
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:55,440
resident owned land. We're going to need

1860
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,440
to go through a public hearing because

1861
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,159
it's a land use decision. Um but we

1862
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:03,679
wanted to kind of get a a feel um you

1863
01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:06,000
know, not a concrete vote here, but a

1864
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,000
kind of a feel. Does this sound like

1865
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,920
something that you guys would like to to

1866
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,679
have us continue to pursue or is there

1867
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:16,880
no appetite at all from the council uh

1868
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,560
to vacate this land?

1869
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,950
>> Brian, was that your hand?

1870
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,960
» No, but um there I I I don't have a

1871
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,760
problem with looking at this and and and

1872
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,840
moving forward. Uh there is the new

1873
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,600
pardon me for House Bill 535 that passed

1874
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,120
that we're going to have to actually

1875
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,320
look at um to make sure we meet the the

1876
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,480
new state regulations

1877
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:49,280
on on property sales. This is what I had

1878
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:55,280
put together and studied um with sale of property. So um definitely something

1879
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,360
we need to make sure that we're

1880
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,440
following those those regulations as we

1881
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:01,360
go forward.

1882
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,880
and we have been talking with Craig and

1883
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,800
Ethan to make sure we are compliant in

1884
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,280
those statutory requirements as well.

1885
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,080
Thank you.

1886
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,600
>> Yeah, that's just new. So,

1887
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,400
>> hey, anybody else have any concerns,

1888
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,270
thoughts?

1889
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,040
» Okay. Then I say we move in this to keep

1890
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:21,520
going.

1891
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,560
>> Yeah.

1892
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,719
>> And it'll come back to you, I assume,

1893
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:26,000
right? It's coming back to the council

1894
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,000
for a final verdict or does that go

1895
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,199
straight to the planning commission and

1896
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:31,199
they'll make the final verdict? No, it

1897
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,360
will go. Planning commission will have a

1898
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,440
public hearing, city council will have a

1899
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,520
public hearing, then the council will

1900
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,199
make the decision. And this is the same

1901
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,440
also. You talked about South Loper, but

1902
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,679
you didn't mention Eagle Nest.

1903
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:45,440
>> And we probably need to talk about that

1904
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:47,040
as well.

1905
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,719
>> Oh, no. Eagle Nest. Yeah, the body

1906
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:51,440
nest

1907
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:55,360
>> because that um if you remember as part

1908
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,600
of the development agreement, the city

1909
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,400
council agreed to vacate the bulb on

1910
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:06,080
Eagle Nest and allow um Summit Creek to

1911
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,159
make that a private road entering a

1912
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:12,159
portion of their community. Um

1913
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:14,320
this was kind of decided on, but we will

1914
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,000
have to move forward on that. We've got

1915
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,920
some procedural process we need to

1916
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,400
follow just on finalizing our commitment

1917
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,960
that we made with the Summit Creek

1918
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,000
development agreement.

1919
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,520
>> And for those who are listening online

1920
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,920
and thinking, well, you just gave that

1921
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,520
to the developer. No, in exchange, the

1922
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,400
developer did work for us on Bear

1923
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,280
Hollow. So, they finished Bear Hollow,

1924
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,520
put in all the improvements there, paid

1925
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,239
for the road to be done, and this was

1926
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:47,920
kind of one of those in exchange

1927
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,520
things that was part of the development

1928
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,159
agreement. So, I just want to clarify.

1929
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:55,120
>> Yeah. Can I add one little piece to that

1930
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,000
too,

1931
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,040
>> please?

1932
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,840
>> Yeah, they we also finished Rockline

1933
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,840
Ditches and some of the other

1934
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,480
infrastructure on Eagle's Nest and

1935
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:10,000
Cougar Run. Um there was on plat D plat

1936
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,719
D and plat F there was missing

1937
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:17,120
infrastructure that we agreed to to uh

1938
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,679
to finish and

1939
01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:21,920
uh that was an exchange for being able

1940
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,199
to vacate that that bulb and and make

1941
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:30,159
that private.

1942
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,640
>> You know lucky that does away with my

1943
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,800
weekend entertainment.

1944
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,800
turn on my lights and down through that

1945
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,719
bulb.

1946
01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:40,640
>> I bet.

1947
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,320
That's probably some interesting

1948
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,239
stuff.

1949
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:45,760
>> I think that's a plus.

1950
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,000
>> Yeah. Um Yeah, I'm not I'm not sad to

1951
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,800
see that go away. That's

1952
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,360
>> okay. Any other questions uh concerning

1953
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,480
the the vacation of those two those two

1954
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:59,040
different areas of the city?

1955
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,560
>> Okay. Then we'll keep continue to

1956
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,320
process or put those through the process

1957
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,280
on that front.

1958
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,600
>> You're still on. Oh, well, we're

1959
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,560
actually we're going to go to number

1960
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,560
eight now. I'll go and jump back to the

1961
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,199
April 2026 financials and check

1962
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:13,040
dispersements, though. Ted, you might as

1963
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,560
well just stick around. You're you're

1964
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,520
up.

1965
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,440
>> Uh any questions as you guys have had a

1966
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:21,920
chance to review those uh April

1967
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,880
financials and check dispersements?

1968
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:30,709
>> Brian, any questions on your front?

1969
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:31,520
I didn't have

1970
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,360
>> Sorry, I was on another screen looking

1971
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,199
at it. No, I don't have any questions.

1972
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:37,600
Jody had sent me some stuff earlier. Um,

1973
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,840
everything everything looks good.

1974
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,360
Appreciate it.

1975
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,600
>> Okay.

1976
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,120
Anybody?

1977
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,360
Okay, then. Ted, you're back up. I hope

1978
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,960
you found that other chair comfortable.

1979
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,199
>> Oh, yeah. Well,

1980
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:52,400
>> okay. We're going to go to number 10.

1981
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,120
Update on the city grants.

1982
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,800
>> Well, I think we've updated everything.

1983
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,480
Uh, you are, you know where we're at on

1984
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,880
that one. and still haven't heard on

1985
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,120
Burgess Owens grant or the uh we should

1986
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:10,159
hear soon on the um trail grant through

1987
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:13,679
MAG. Uh they say by June one we'll know

1988
01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:14,800
pretty much know if we're going to get

1989
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,520
funded or not. So next council

1990
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,120
>> and that's just for a study.

1991
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,480
>> No, this is for an actual trail.

1992
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,400
>> Oh, it's for the actual trail. We we

1993
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,440
submitted for 2.9 million funding from

1994
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:28,400
MAG to build a section of the trail that

1995
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,239
was based on that study we did on the

1996
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:33,520
roundabout city building.

1997
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,320
>> Yeah.

1998
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,199
>> Okay.

1999
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:36,400
>> Yeah.

2000
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,320
>> And we're kind of right on the bubble.

2001
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,000
>> Right on the bubble on that.

2002
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,120
>> The way they do is they go through and

2003
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,120
they rank all the projects. The the TAC

2004
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,440
committee, technical advisory committee,

2005
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,199
uh goes through and the staff ranks all

2006
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:48,719
the projects. We rank all the projects

2007
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:50,640
as a TAC committee. They combined the

2008
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,840
rankings. There were 44 projects. We

2009
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,360
were like right in the middle. And then

2010
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,960
they just start giving out the money.

2011
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,280
They have so much money to hand out. 110

2012
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,199
millionish. They just start handing out

2013
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:03,040
money until they run out. And if you're

2014
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,400
high enough on the list, you'll get it.

2015
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,800
If you're not, you won't. We're right

2016
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,719
kind of right in that bubble area.

2017
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:13,920
>> Okay. Anything else on grants, you guys?

2018
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,920
Okay. Then we will move Oh, don't go

2019
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,280
anywhere, Ted.

2020
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,679
Uh, departmental reports, community

2021
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:21,120
development, public works, fire

2022
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:21,600
department.

2023
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,040
>> If we didn't have so many titles, you

2024
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,480
wouldn't have to sit up for so much, but

2025
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:26,080
you know.

2026
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,760
>> Yeah. Uh, I don't know what more I got

2027
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,199
to report. I think you guys hear from me

2028
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:32,080
enough. Our fire crew is now uh on

2029
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,960
full-time and available nationally. Uh,

2030
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,239
in the meantime, they are doing

2031
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:37,440
mitigation work here in the city.

2032
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:38,640
They've been doing chipping, wheat

2033
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,960
cutting, stuff like that on the fire

2034
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,920
department side.

2035
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,600
>> I noticed they were cutting down the

2036
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,159
grass.

2037
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,719
>> Cutting down grasses. uh then go along

2038
01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:48,000
cutting down tall grasses along our

2039
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,360
rightsways and properties and stuff like

2040
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:49,840
that.

2041
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,120
>> Definitely need

2042
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,760
>> um

2043
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,199
and chipping wood county wood chippers.

2044
01:18:57,199 --> 01:18:59,679
They'll be done by the end of this week

2045
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:02,000
with the roadside chipping. They are

2046
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,360
still working. We have an agreement for

2047
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,440
them to work up on our property near the

2048
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,840
water tank and they're up there probably

2049
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,040
back up. They've been up there once.

2050
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,000
They're going to be back up there again,

2051
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,320
I believe, tomorrow. Uh continuing work

2052
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,800
on that property up there. So we'll have

2053
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,320
more mitigation work going on in the

2054
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,159
city. Um

2055
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:19,440
>> is the chipping are they going to go

2056
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:21,120
back and finish the piles they missed

2057
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,640
because we are still

2058
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,719
>> how that was the confusing part was

2059
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:26,400
>> I saw that about the process.

2060
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,640
>> Yeah. So basically what so the county

2061
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,159
crews are going around fairly

2062
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:33,440
systematically. However, our crew uh got

2063
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:35,440
a we got a chipper from the state. State

2064
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:37,840
loaned us a chipper to use. So our crew

2065
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,280
has been going around with the chipper.

2066
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,280
they're kind of catching the small piles

2067
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,480
and then leaving all the big stuff,

2068
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:45,520
bigger stuff for the county. So, in some

2069
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,880
cases, our crews have been going around

2070
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,960
hitting piles here and there. But, so

2071
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,320
one street, they may have gotten one or

2072
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,920
two piles that are smaller. Then the

2073
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,040
county comes back through and gets all

2074
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,199
the big stuff or but they don't finish.

2075
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,920
The county will go back through uh

2076
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,360
they'll probably be mostly done

2077
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,199
tomorrow. They're going to go back

2078
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:03,040
through the city one last time and check

2079
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,400
everything, make sure everything's done

2080
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:05,760
before they leave the city by the end of

2081
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,320
the week. If something is missed,

2082
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,760
>> ours still haven't been touched. That's

2083
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:10,080
why

2084
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,239
>> they got a couple more days up here.

2085
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:13,360
They'll go back through, like I said,

2086
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,239
they'll go back through the whole city

2087
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:16,000
and check everything before they leave.

2088
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,600
Um,

2089
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,280
if something does get missed, we've

2090
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,800
still got the state chipper, so we can

2091
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,719
send our crew down there to get it.

2092
01:20:22,719 --> 01:20:24,800
>> My neighbors were like, "Haha." Cuz all

2093
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,040
of theirs got done and mine didn't. I

2094
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,239
was like, "Okay."

2095
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:29,440
>> I told you, "Wait a minute. Did you

2096
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:30,560
figure this out after your neighbors

2097
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,840
were done?"

2098
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,320
>> Yeah. All my neighbors got done just

2099
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,920
>> Did you figure what half your neighbors

2100
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,199
were already chipped?

2101
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:38,480
>> No.

2102
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:40,400
>> Been out there the whole time.

2103
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:40,800
>> Yeah.

2104
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,480
>> My husband did add to it this weekend,

2105
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:43,520
though. He was like, "Well, they haven't

2106
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,920
done it yet." So, he put more out there.

2107
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,760
>> Well, and we want as much of it out of

2108
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,840
the city as we can. So,

2109
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,840
>> we lost some trees during that storm.

2110
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,040
So,

2111
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,239
>> yeah, they'll go back and check

2112
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:55,520
everything for anything at the city. And

2113
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:56,800
if they don't get it, our crews will be

2114
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,840
around and get it. Um,

2115
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,840
and then our road project is likely

2116
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,360
going to kick off in July for phase

2117
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,199
three of the road

2118
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:05,760
>> that's going to be

2119
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,600
>> phase three of the road project.

2120
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,920
>> Will that is there a section of Woodland

2121
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,840
Hills Drive in that phase three? Isn't

2122
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,040
there one? That'll be interesting. Oh,

2123
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,960
that'll be rough just with all the other

2124
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,640
road blockages. And then we're going to

2125
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:19,840
add some up here, too.

2126
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,840
>> Well, it's actually a good time because

2127
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,600
Woodland Hills Drive is very buggered

2128
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,560
up. So, we're recommending everyone take

2129
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,440
Summit Creek to Loafer Mountain. Um,

2130
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,360
that's your best way to get around now

2131
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,440
and avoid Wooden Hills Drive. So, while

2132
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,440
Woodland Hills Drive, I mean, while it's

2133
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:36,880
kind of buggered up, might as well just

2134
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,120
get art done as well

2135
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,199
>> while people are detouring anyway.

2136
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:42,560
>> Yeah. And at some point when the

2137
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,080
roundabout, we won't even be able to go

2138
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,679
through that, right? At some point this

2139
01:21:45,679 --> 01:21:46,000
summer.

2140
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,679
>> Yeah. We'll have to be going over to

2141
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:49,760
Summit down to 11 200,

2142
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,440
>> right? They'll shut down everything when

2143
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:54,800
the roundabout goes in and we they we

2144
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,480
just finished the final design on the

2145
01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:58,159
roundabout. So final design is done on

2146
01:21:58,159 --> 01:21:58,639
that.

2147
01:21:58,639 --> 01:21:59,199
>> Oh.

2148
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:01,120
>> Um they're starting to put bid documents

2149
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:01,679
together.

2150
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:04,639
>> So uh have you seen it? You've seen it?

2151
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:05,520
>> I have.

2152
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,840
>> And like what's going to go in the

2153
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,600
middle?

2154
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,719
>> No. What are they going to put in the

2155
01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:11,360
middle? Do you know that?

2156
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,280
>> Generally what we have there now

2157
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:14,560
>> they'll put some landscaping, some

2158
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,639
trees. They'll they'll modify it a bit

2159
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:20,080
if we want them to. Um,

2160
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,760
>> and we could still put something in if

2161
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:22,960
we raise the money like the

2162
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,120
>> our flag pole is going to go in. I told

2163
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,719
them we would like to include possibly a

2164
01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:28,960
city sign and they said that's fine. We

2165
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,159
just have to buy it. Um, generally

2166
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:33,360
they're going to put some trees back,

2167
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,840
some plants,

2168
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:36,400
>> fighting

2169
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,960
>> our flag poles. In fact, the way they're

2170
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,480
building this, that center is really not

2171
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:41,360
even going to be they're not even going

2172
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,480
to move the flag pole. That's going to

2173
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:44,639
stay there.

2174
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:46,320
They're going to demo around it and hold

2175
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,159
that little piece in place.

2176
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:49,920
>> And then they'll widen it. Make it

2177
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:50,960
bigger.

2178
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,040
>> Okay. Definitely need to wider.

2179
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,560
>> We'll cut out those ugly trees. Let's

2180
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,790
get some better looking trees there.

2181
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:01,360
» Wonderful.

2182
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,120
>> Better quality pines.

2183
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,880
>> Thank you, Ted. Uh Wayne, anything with

2184
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,960
Planning Commission or uh code

2185
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:09,679
enforcement?

2186
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:11,760
>> A couple of things.

2187
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,400
>> Nobody breaks the code. Gosh,

2188
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,760
>> it's been quiet.

2189
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:18,400
>> Summer's coming.

2190
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:19,120
>> Not a bad thing.

2191
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,080
>> Depends who you talk to.

2192
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:22,560
>> Sorry.

2193
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,760
>> Um, we've had some problems with some

2194
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,520
builders

2195
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,040
and we've

2196
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,159
>> levied some fines. Should be aware of

2197
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:35,600
that. We've we appreciate we've gotten

2198
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,239
quite a few citizen complaints about

2199
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,560
builders and we've taken them to heart

2200
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,560
and trying to resolve the issues so they

2201
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,400
don't reoccur and um

2202
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:49,679
>> issues and fines when

2203
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:51,679
>> are they noise ordinance starting too

2204
01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:52,080
soon?

2205
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,159
>> Mostly

2206
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:56,560
>> there is a little bit of a misconception

2207
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,880
on Sunday work.

2208
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:03,600
Um builders can work on Sunday

2209
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,800
provided the noise level is

2210
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,679
acceptable to the neighbors. Usually

2211
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:12,480
that means working inside a home,

2212
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:15,120
>> not heavy equipment and

2213
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,840
>> nail guns and things like that going on

2214
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,600
outside.

2215
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,320
>> So hope the builders would respect that.

2216
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,880
But there is a provision that they can

2217
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,040
work quiet time.

2218
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:27,600
>> Sure.

2219
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,800
>> Uh on on the property during Sunday. A

2220
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,320
lot of people don't real understand

2221
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,600
that. We uh we canled our planning

2222
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,560
commission meeting this month due to a

2223
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,239
lack of being able to get a quorum

2224
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:42,320
together. It's

2225
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:42,960
>> graduation

2226
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,600
>> summertime and everything else. And so

2227
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,159
we plan on uh our planning commission

2228
01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:52,800
meeting in June of uh having a public

2229
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,520
hearing with the general plan that

2230
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,480
you're all aware of that timetable and

2231
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:05,840
then we'll come back to the council with the results of of that. So

2232
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,840
that's pretty much all that I wanted had

2233
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,840
to share. Any questions?

2234
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,760
Who said public servants could take

2235
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,520
vacations and spend time with their

2236
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,960
family? That allowed.

2237
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,159
>> You're supposed to.

2238
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:20,480
>> Yeah,

2239
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:20,960
>> I know.

2240
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,400
>> It's encouraged.

2241
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,679
>> Very good. Aaron, do you have anything?

2242
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:32,310
>> Yeah.

2243
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,800
» We're making progress on establishing or

2244
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,159
preparing for the June 20th emergency

2245
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:41,600
fire drill.

2246
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,760
Um, we've recently, I think, come to an

2247
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,080
agreement. Question from wrong, TED,

2248
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,080
that we're going to also partner with

2249
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,639
the Red Cross. Okay, we good with that.

2250
01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:52,080
Clear that?

2251
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,880
>> Answer is yes. Um, we just had to make

2252
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,960
sure that the Red Cross, they have a

2253
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,719
fire mitigation program that they're

2254
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:01,120
trying to promote to citizens. And we

2255
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,960
just had to make sure that their

2256
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,800
recommendations coincided with what we

2257
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,040
were already doing mitigation wise. So,

2258
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,480
we're going to be able to make those uh

2259
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:10,960
corrections or synchronize them together

2260
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,760
better. But this this Red Cross is going

2261
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,960
to um provide a free backpack like a

2262
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,400
bugout backpack with some initial

2263
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,480
contributions for it for each family

2264
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:27,679
that uh participates with a fire

2265
01:26:27,679 --> 01:26:29,280
mitigation

2266
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,239
analysis of their home.

2267
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:32,960
>> Internal

2268
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:33,360
>> what?

2269
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,199
>> Internal as well as external. Right.

2270
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:36,239
>> They do. They're they're going to

2271
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:39,600
provide external. Let me back up. We are

2272
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,800
going to be the ones that provide the

2273
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,480
volunteers to help do the external one.

2274
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:44,159
They have volunteers to do the internal

2275
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:45,760
one. The internal one that they're

2276
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,480
doing, they're going to get free fire

2277
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:51,520
alarms to each residents that needs it.

2278
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:52,480
So, they're going to check their

2279
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:53,679
batteries. They're going to verify if

2280
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:55,840
they have proper coverage, and they'll

2281
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,320
be able to be given for free at no cost

2282
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,040
to the resident uh those alarms as well

2283
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,639
as the backpack if they do the external

2284
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:05,440
one. So, it's pretty cool. Um on the

2285
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,360
20th in the morning, we are we are

2286
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,800
inviting the block captains that are are

2287
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,880
assigned that position in the community

2288
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,719
to come into the city center here first

2289
01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:17,520
to um get some initial training and

2290
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:18,560
that's where they're going to be the

2291
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,040
ones asked to do the walkarounds with

2292
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,800
the coaching from the Red Cross. Okay,

2293
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,520
>> great. Um, yeah. And then we're going to

2294
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,760
do the actual

2295
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,480
test at 10 o'clock.

2296
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:34,560
And the county has made available to us

2297
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,320
the MAC um the MAC truck is.

2298
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,679
>> This is 45 ft emergency

2299
01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:44,719
operations center facility. So, we're

2300
01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:49,679
going to start the EOC here at 8:30 9:00

2301
01:27:49,679 --> 01:27:52,239
and then halfway through the test, we're

2302
01:27:52,239 --> 01:27:53,520
going to get evacuated because the fire

2303
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,360
is coming towards this building.

2304
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:56,480
And then we're going to evacuate to the

2305
01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,960
Mac truck and finish our operations

2306
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,120
there. So that'll give us a little bit

2307
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,360
experience of how fast we can

2308
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,000
transition.

2309
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,239
>> Any other questions?

2310
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:08,960
>> That's great.

2311
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,360
>> Okay. So J, I'm going to try and get you

2312
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,120
some material to put into our newsletter

2313
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,480
coming up as far as what families can do

2314
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:16,560
to prepare for it, such as

2315
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,040
>> deadline is before the first.

2316
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,800
>> As long as it's not tomorrow, good.

2317
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,280
I'll get it to you. I I

2318
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,120
>> it's I'm going to have to work on it on

2319
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,480
the weekend. So if

2320
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,800
>> get to you this week ASAP.

2321
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,280
>> Yeah, I this week is toast already. So

2322
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,960
this weekend I will work on the

2323
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,080
newsletter.

2324
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,120
>> I will work on my contribution for you.

2325
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,280
>> Ted Wayne,

2326
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,800
>> you got mine already?

2327
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,000
>> Oh, I got yours. Okay,

2328
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,280
>> you got mine, right?

2329
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,520
>> Not yours. It was good. I read it.

2330
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:48,800
>> Way to go, Rude.

2331
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,320
>> Okay.

2332
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,280
>> Somebody that pulls people over. Anybody

2333
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,480
got any questions?

2334
01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:59,520
>> Um, wonderful. I we I was at the

2335
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,280
emergency manager meeting today for the

2336
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,719
county.

2337
01:29:02,719 --> 01:29:04,560
>> Um, he was talking about the wildfire.

2338
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,280
It was the county fire manager

2339
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,679
basically said uh William Hills is going

2340
01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:11,760
to go up and smoke.

2341
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,000
He was kidding though. But uh

2342
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,199
>> number 10

2343
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:17,040
>> he's well yeah he's grateful that we're

2344
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,560
doing mitigation efforts like we have

2345
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,480
been and they you know they're glad they

2346
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,480
could buy some resources to us as well.

2347
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:26,639
So it was a good good talk goodation.

2348
01:29:26,639 --> 01:29:27,440
>> Thank you sir.

2349
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:29,040
>> Hey

2350
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,920
okay uh mayor and city council reports.

2351
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,159
Um again five minutes or less. Um for

2352
01:29:36,159 --> 01:29:39,280
personnel you know our staff has been

2353
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,880
doing some fabulous work. Um, like we've

2354
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,480
already talked about all the water line

2355
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,320
issues that all seem to happen, you

2356
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,880
know, when they're not, you know, on the

2357
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,360
clock here. They never break in the

2358
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,040
morning and take up his day. It always

2359
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,120
is after, but they've done a great job

2360
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,639
there. Um, our waterline contractors are

2361
01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:02,080
fabulous to work with. Um, as well, um,

2362
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,239
as for a legal update, uh, nothing for

2363
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:07,360
today. So, Council Member Hutchings

2364
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,840
from Planning Commission.

2365
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,679
>> As Wayne mentioned, uh, planning

2366
01:30:11,679 --> 01:30:13,840
commission was cancelled, so I don't

2367
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,000
have anything to report.

2368
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,840
>> Wonderful. Uh, Council Member Jones,

2369
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,760
public safety. Nothing to report.

2370
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,000
>> Uh, okay. Council member Lunt, parks,

2371
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,560
trails, recreation, finance, events, and

2372
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,080
communication.

2373
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,800
>> Yeah. Um, PTR, we met and just mostly

2374
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,880
talked about the pickle ball grant that

2375
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,000
came through. Um, PTR did contribute to

2376
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,040
help. I mean, Ted did l my share of the

2377
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,960
work, but PTR did help with that and

2378
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,400
supported with that and so we're

2379
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,120
grateful for that. And, um, they're just

2380
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,639
making a priority list. We've been

2381
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:50,480
working on a priority list or things we

2382
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:52,480
want to see in the parks and trails so

2383
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:54,320
we know what to work on. Like we'd

2384
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,239
really like to have a restroom up there.

2385
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:58,159
the ADA thing has always been at the top

2386
01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:00,320
of the list. Um, which now it sounds

2387
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:01,600
like part of that will be taken care of.

2388
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,639
So, that's awesome. But, um, one of the

2389
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:06,080
things we also want is we kind of want

2390
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,760
to make a little amphitheater on the

2391
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,280
south side of the pavilion. You have

2392
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,880
that flat area where we always like we

2393
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,960
show the movie and stuff like that. We'd

2394
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,400
like to have a little maybe like a

2395
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,239
cement pad right there and then in the

2396
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:21,280
grass have an amphitheater. So, that's something that we're going to be

2397
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,280
working on and a priority. Um,

2398
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,480
let's see. So, finance committee, we

2399
01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:30,800
just went over budget numbers and then

2400
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,199
you met, so I have a report there.

2401
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:36,320
Newsletter, just a reminder for articles

2402
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,880
that I don't have yet that I need those.

2403
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,920
And then America 250,

2404
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:46,159
um, that is coming up. So, July 5th, on

2405
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:50,320
Sunday, July 5th, we will be having a

2406
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,880
um, what do you call it? the park.

2407
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:53,840
>> Pot luck.

2408
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:58,639
>> Potluck in the park. And um we are

2409
01:31:58,639 --> 01:32:01,600
hoping that the city can

2410
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:05,600
fire department cook some hot dogs.

2411
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:06,480
>> When?

2412
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:07,280
>> July 5th.

2413
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,639
>> Sunday, July 5th.

2414
01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:11,040
>> Mhm.

2415
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,360
>> The whole entire state is doing a

2416
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:14,719
potluck.

2417
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:17,679
>> 10:30 to 2:30.

2418
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:19,280
>> Sweet.

2419
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,280
>> 6 o'clock.

2420
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,440
>> Huh. I'll have to be there at 10:30

2421
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:27,199
prep. Okay.

2422
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:30,400
>> Um and then um we have a we have a

2423
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,920
committee and they're excited. They're

2424
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,560
kind of gung-ho on it and um we're

2425
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,199
hoping to do homemade root beer and have

2426
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:39,280
everyone bring

2427
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,560
>> a side dish

2428
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,920
>> to go with it. And then we had thought

2429
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,199
about we thought about renting chairs

2430
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:46,960
and tables, but we decided against that.

2431
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,639
We're going to use what tables and

2432
01:32:48,639 --> 01:32:50,480
chairs we have at the city, but then

2433
01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:51,679
we're also going to tell people to bring

2434
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:54,639
their camp chairs and they can also

2435
01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:56,960
bring their pop-ups if they want and

2436
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,120
make like little family centers in the

2437
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,719
grass. They can bring their pop-ups and

2438
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:02,800
their camp chairs and their blankets and

2439
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,840
kind of make their little area. Um, so

2440
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,400
we wanted to just make it less

2441
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,560
commercial and more ground.

2442
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,320
>> I think that if we want to get our older

2443
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,760
residents, we're going to need to have

2444
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:14,320
some

2445
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,159
>> That's why we're going to have those.

2446
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:17,520
We're going to bring all of ours from

2447
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:18,400
the city up there.

2448
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:19,679
>> All of ours from the city that

2449
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:21,360
>> Yes, ma'am.

2450
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,639
>> But uh and between that and the

2451
01:33:24,639 --> 01:33:26,719
pavilion, the older citizens will have

2452
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:29,199
plenty of seating. Um but then the

2453
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:32,239
families can make their own areas.

2454
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:35,120
And then just a few little games, not a

2455
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,679
whole lot. Oh, and then Dennis Lizby is

2456
01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:41,199
getting music together. So, um he has a

2457
01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:44,239
little band. Rick Prey has a group. He's

2458
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:45,760
going to see if Hillary Weeks will do a

2459
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,000
few numbers. He's going to see several

2460
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,920
youth artists and they're all just going

2461
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,199
to take turns. And then one of the

2462
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:54,000
things that I kind of wanted um was some

2463
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,159
patriotic songs and a sing along so that

2464
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:58,239
the citizens can sing along on some of

2465
01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:00,480
like the you know some of the Star

2466
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:03,679
Spangled Banner, some of those. So

2467
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:05,600
anyway, trying to keep it simple but

2468
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,239
also make it worth worthwhile for people

2469
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:11,920
to come. And um I got the information to

2470
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,840
President Aett and um he's supporting it

2471
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,120
last I heard and

2472
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,280
>> the church overall has has already said

2473
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,800
that they're supporting it. So

2474
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,480
>> he he reached out for details and stuff.

2475
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:24,719
So we got those to him and I'm going to

2476
01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:27,440
ask Dan Roden kind of has a double duty.

2477
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:29,600
So when we get the information finalized

2478
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,520
I'm going to have him send it out get it

2479
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,080
sent out to all the wards and bishops

2480
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,000
and that way um we can make sure that

2481
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,159
all the wards support it.

2482
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,120
>> Yeah. and we'll do a sign up genius just

2483
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:42,719
to kind of remind people for the side

2484
01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:44,400
dishes, but really people can still just

2485
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:45,840
show up and bring whatever they want.

2486
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,600
But it's just to kind of help get the

2487
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,040
ball rolling and encourage people to

2488
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,159
sign up for stuff and commit. So, okay,

2489
01:34:52,159 --> 01:34:53,440
that was more than five minutes. I'm

2490
01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:54,320
sorry.

2491
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,080
>> Well, we only gave you all the

2492
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,320
responsibility. So, Council Member

2493
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,600
Malovich,

2494
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,280
>> um, no report other than what we've

2495
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,159
already talked about that the strategic

2496
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:06,800
plan committee will come on the 23rd at

2497
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,000
6 p.m. and give us a presentation and by

2498
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,840
then they probably will have um a little

2499
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,239
bit more details on what we talked about

2500
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:17,199
earlier.

2501
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,000
>> Wonderful. Okay, Council Member Roden,

2502
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,080
no nothing. Just been helping Janet on

2503
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,800
the 250 and obviously sending you some

2504
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,800
ideas. And so I know that you had asked

2505
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,600
out to the community to share their

2506
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,040
feedback. I'm not sure if you gave them

2507
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,840
away specifically like an email address.

2508
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,679
>> That is on tomorrow's agenda.

2509
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:38,080
>> Okay. So I don't know if it would be

2510
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,159
better to receive a bunch of different

2511
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:43,120
ones and then I can take inspiration

2512
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:44,800
from those and I I just don't know how

2513
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,560
we would do if we receive say 30 how we

2514
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,719
would do some sort of vote to determine

2515
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:52,639
which one we'd want to do. But we could

2516
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:54,480
take those as inspiration for whatever

2517
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:55,120
we do.

2518
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:56,080
>> I think it's a great idea.

2519
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:56,719
>> Does that work?

2520
01:35:56,719 --> 01:35:58,639
>> Let's you and I chat tomorrow also to

2521
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:00,480
make sure I finalize the verbiage and

2522
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:02,400
everything and then I'll send it out.

2523
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,320
>> You know, and does everyone else know

2524
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:05,840
what they're talking about for the

2525
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:06,239
mailbox?

2526
01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:07,679
>> They're talking about this temporary

2527
01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:10,080
container mailboxes outside of the city

2528
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,480
center currently. It looks like, you

2529
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,320
know, Maris dropped off one of their

2530
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,560
junkers. Um, so what we want to do is is

2531
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,000
see if we can't paint it um in some

2532
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,159
capacity that brings in a little bit

2533
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,000
more of the patriotism and makes it not

2534
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,199
look like a a Maris junker. So

2535
01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:31,199
>> you sent the video out so some people

2536
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:32,800
may have seen that.

2537
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,520
>> Correct. I did speak to it in my uh

2538
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,360
update on you know here. That's why I

2539
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,840
actually did that video out there um

2540
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,320
this time. Um, but I'll send out more

2541
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,639
information to more specific just to

2542
01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:45,199
that.

2543
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:46,800
>> Okay.

2544
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,639
Wonderful. Any items for an

2545
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:50,000
upcoming city council meeting?

2546
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:50,880
>> Mayor.

2547
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,600
>> Yes.

2548
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,000
>> A thought comes to mind with the

2549
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,400
activity on the 5th.

2550
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,600
>> Possibly putting a program together, a

2551
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:06,480
printed program. Included in that

2552
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:09,199
can be collected is a list of our

2553
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:12,560
relatives in the city who have given

2554
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,480
their lives

2555
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:19,760
uh for in times of war and and otherwise

2556
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,280
to kind of recognize them uh in a

2557
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,920
program and let's list their names down

2558
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:26,639
>> those who have served.

2559
01:37:26,639 --> 01:37:28,000
>> It's just a thought.

2560
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,840
>> I'd love to see even just veterans as

2561
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:30,800
well. That

2562
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,600
>> I'd love that. I my only worry, you

2563
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,520
know, my only worry is the worry that we

2564
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,360
always have leave forgetting somebody

2565
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,440
and leaving somebody out.

2566
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:41,920
>> I was talking um well and if you ask for

2567
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,080
people's names though, you know, give us

2568
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,480
the names of any veterans that were not

2569
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:48,080
only who live in our city but your

2570
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,480
family because then it gives it on to

2571
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:53,040
the person to put it in, not not you

2572
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,280
collecting them. The other thing I heard

2573
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:56,960
another city doing is they're going to

2574
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,480
have a contest on patriotic

2575
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:02,960
um desserts contest and I thought that

2576
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,840
might be a fun one for us too. Um

2577
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,920
whether it's you know a pies or Dutch

2578
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,239
oven or something people could make it a

2579
01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:12,880
patriot what they deem as patriotic. We

2580
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,880
just Yes. I think that would be really

2581
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,880
fun. Um my subcommittee chairs we we

2582
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,480
talked about it. We don't want to make

2583
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:23,760
it too much work. It's a Sunday. We

2584
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,679
don't want to make it where, oh, you've

2585
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:26,880
got to bring this and you've got to

2586
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,560
bring this and you got to do this. We

2587
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,800
just want them to make a side dish and

2588
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,520
come and relax and enjoy the program and

2589
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,000
feel the patriotism. So, we don't want

2590
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,000
to put too much on people because

2591
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,600
>> we thought about like pie eating

2592
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,560
contests and other pie baking contests

2593
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:43,679
and

2594
01:38:43,679 --> 01:38:45,520
>> um I just I'm more interested that

2595
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,360
people will not find a reason to not

2596
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,320
come. I think I just wanted to make it

2597
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,159
easy and simple. But note it.

2598
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:55,280
>> I mean all great ideas.

2599
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,199
>> Some people who are bakers though it is

2600
01:38:57,199 --> 01:38:58,880
simple to bring something.

2601
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:00,800
>> So we have you just we just have to you

2602
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,960
know maybe balance that for the people

2603
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,520
who this is a big deal for them to have

2604
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,040
it as a as an event more and they love

2605
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,800
to bake. It might be their way to

2606
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,520
showcase and their own talents to our

2607
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:17,040
community. Um but at the same time bring

2608
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:17,840
what you want.

2609
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:18,400
>> Yeah.

2610
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:19,520
>> But

2611
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,760
>> maybe maybe give those who want to do

2612
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,119
that an opportunity.

2613
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:26,000
>> So Shannon Gilbert is spearheading.

2614
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,560
She's the person on the ground doing all

2615
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,440
of this. So and she also wants to keep

2616
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:32,320
it simple

2617
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:33,199
>> and I'll need

2618
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:34,239
>> Yeah.

2619
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:36,639
>> all baked goods to come through my home

2620
01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:38,960
first before

2621
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,239
>> So none of them will arrive.

2622
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:41,520
>> So none of them will

2623
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,360
>> poison control. I will I will be the

2624
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:44,960
sole vote.

2625
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,000
>> Wonderful. Okay. Uh Jody, could we

2626
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,400
actually add to the next council agenda?

2627
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,639
>> Um America 250.

2628
01:39:52,639 --> 01:39:54,080
>> We'll keep talking about it and

2629
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,040
updating. Yep.

2630
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,080
>> Okay.

2631
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,239
>> Wonderful. Okay. Uh if there's nothing

2632
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:00,639
else for upcoming

2633
01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:03,360
uh council meetings then we will uh

2634
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,320
close the work session um and we will

2635
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,920
take uh

2636
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,360
3 minute break and we will resume again

2637
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,520
at 7:45.

2638
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:16,880
>> Does that work for everybody?

2639
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,760
>> It's very specific. Yes minute break.

2640
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,119
>> I just round to the nearest five.

2641
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:24,880
So,

2642
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:29,350
>> okay.

2643
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:29,760
» Yeah.

2644
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:30,880
>> Oh, it's just like

2645
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,639
>> wonderful.

2646
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:34,239
>> Okay.

2647
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:36,560
Well, I'd like to call um this council

2648
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,679
meeting to order. Um and we are going to

2649
01:40:39,679 --> 01:40:41,760
start with an invocation from council

2650
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,440
member John's and a pledge of allegiance

2651
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:48,070
from council member Ron.

2652
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:49,520
We're your father in heaven. We're

2653
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,040
grateful to be able to meet together

2654
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,800
today as a city and discuss the needs of

2655
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,320
the city and the ways we can uh improve

2656
01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:59,920
the quality of life that we all enjoy

2657
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:02,159
here. We ask that thou will bless us and

2658
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:05,679
guide us today as we make decisions that

2659
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:09,760
we can be guided by thy thy spirit. And

2660
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,199
we ask for these things in the name of

2661
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:12,639
Jesus Christ. Amen.

2662
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:17,270
>> Amen. All rise, please.

2663
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,040
Repeat after me.

2664
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,159
I pledge algiance to the flag of the

2665
01:41:22,159 --> 01:41:25,199
United States of America and to the

2666
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:28,960
republic for which it stands. One nation

2667
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,639
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

2668
01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:37,350
justice for all.

2669
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,760
» Well, thank you both.

2670
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,320
Um, I'd like to open uh the public

2671
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,480
comment period. Um, comments are to be

2672
01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:46,320
limited to 2 minutes or less if

2673
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,040
possible. Um, and only in-person

2674
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,960
comments will be included as part of the

2675
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,679
official record,

2676
01:41:53,679 --> 01:41:55,600
>> please.

2677
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,040
>> You want me to sit, I guess?

2678
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:58,800
>> Yep. And if you could just state your

2679
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,320
name for the record, that'd be great.

2680
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,360
>> Okay. So, I'm David Spencer. Uh, I live

2681
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:04,880
in ORM and I'm running for county

2682
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,080
commissioner CB. Um, I was on the ORM

2683
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,239
city council for 12 years. So, I just

2684
01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:13,199
got off in December. Um, I got into

2685
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:15,199
politics to save the baseball fields in

2686
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:17,920
Oral and uh, 12 years later, they're

2687
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,760
still there. So, at least I accomplished

2688
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,600
something in my time on the council.

2689
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,840
But, um, the the main reason uh, I'm

2690
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,679
running for county commissioner is in

2691
01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:30,080
those 12 years, not once did a county

2692
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,239
commissioner come to ORM and say, "What

2693
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:34,639
are your needs? How can we help you?"

2694
01:42:34,639 --> 01:42:36,880
And that needs to change because I feel

2695
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,400
that Utah County is fractured. We're

2696
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,400
doing our own little thing. And if we

2697
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,639
get all on the same page, we'll be able

2698
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:44,480
to go to the legislature and ask for

2699
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:46,400
money that's going to Davis County

2700
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:47,280
because that's where the state

2701
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,920
leadership is. We need money in Utah

2702
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,159
County to help the cities.

2703
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:56,239
But the the main thing is if we come

2704
01:42:56,239 --> 01:42:58,080
together, I want to meet like with every

2705
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,159
city, mayor, council, and citizens to

2706
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:02,800
say how can we help because a lot of

2707
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,000
people don't know what the county even

2708
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,400
does, right? But we have the the great

2709
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,320
sheriff and and sheriff's department and

2710
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,320
the the jail, but what are they doing

2711
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,480
for the cities? And that's what I want

2712
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:15,280
to change. So, in my service of uh on

2713
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,960
the city council, I love serving people.

2714
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,119
I love what people call me. I've heard

2715
01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:20,880
that commissioners aren't even

2716
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,480
accessible. They can't even get be

2717
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:23,679
reached. You have to leave them a

2718
01:43:23,679 --> 01:43:25,679
message. You need to be accessible.

2719
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:27,920
That's why I have my phone all the time

2720
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,480
and I did that as a city council member.

2721
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:33,040
Um, I was out in Janola last week and

2722
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,360
it's interesting how the gravel pits are

2723
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:40,080
really hurting the tart cherries and and that agriculture. So, we need to be

2724
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,360
very careful even though it's state

2725
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,040
that's mandated that we have to permit

2726
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,440
everything. But I just want to represent

2727
01:43:45,440 --> 01:43:47,280
and I just wanted to come out and say

2728
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,159
I'm here and uh primary, you know,

2729
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:51,679
primaries are coming up really soon.

2730
01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:53,440
June 2nd, I think the ballots are coming

2731
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:55,920
out, but I've got a brochure that I'll

2732
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,199
leave with the city reporter. And uh

2733
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:00,480
>> I have a quick question for you, David.

2734
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:01,040
Yes, ma'am.

2735
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,280
>> So, um what is your feeling on the

2736
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,920
budget with uh with the county sheriff?

2737
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,040
Um we we know it takes a a lot of money

2738
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,199
to run the sheriff, the jail, the um

2739
01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:12,960
attorney general's office, I mean the

2740
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,920
county attorney's office, etc. We do

2741
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,239
contract with the sheriff's office, so

2742
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:20,880
for law enforcement. So, um, that budget

2743
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:22,400
is important to us. So, I want to know

2744
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:22,880
what you

2745
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,760
>> I agree 100%. So, in ORM, I I have the

2746
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,600
fraternal order police, uh, endorsement

2747
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:29,679
and also the the fire union in ORM

2748
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:32,239
because that is your number one budget

2749
01:44:32,239 --> 01:44:34,239
item and that is your number one

2750
01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:36,080
priority. You need to keep your citizens

2751
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,080
safe. Bottom line and you know, you can

2752
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,480
cut the fat, but the main thing you have

2753
01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:44,480
to make sure that you keep your citizens

2754
01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:48,480
safe and that's my bottom line. So, um,

2755
01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:51,520
do I think, uh, in ORM we cut the fat

2756
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,600
and we save 1.7 million. Do I think

2757
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,000
there's fat in the county? Yes, I do.

2758
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,480
But we need to make sure that we do not

2759
01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:01,199
go for from the sheriff and the jail. I

2760
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:02,880
don't know 100% about the jail and how,

2761
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,600
but I know it's very expensive because

2762
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:06,880
police and fire are normally the number

2763
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,960
one budget item. So that is a priority

2764
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,119
and that's why I do have the endorsement

2765
01:45:11,119 --> 01:45:13,840
for our local,

2766
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,000
you know, fire and police because Chief

2767
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,560
Robertson and and Sanderson, they they

2768
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,320
support me 100%. I just I was at the

2769
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,320
Sarah last night and they honored our

2770
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,159
firemen and I went up and I shook all

2771
01:45:24,159 --> 01:45:25,520
their hands cuz they're all my friends,

2772
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,639
right? I visit them because people don't

2773
01:45:28,639 --> 01:45:30,000
realize, but they put their life on the

2774
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,119
line every day and they might not come

2775
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:35,040
home because they're protecting us and

2776
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:40,159
that my dad fought in Vietnam. So, I'm that's in my DNA and I just I

2777
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:42,000
appreciate what they do cuz I've been on

2778
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,520
ride alongs and stuff and I don't see

2779
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,600
how they do it, but I'm glad that

2780
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:49,840
somebody wants to do that um with the police and the fire, but I I take my

2781
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,080
hats off to them because they're you

2782
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:53,520
have to have you know, you're just a

2783
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:54,800
great individual if you're well if

2784
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,560
you're able to do that. But so, that's

2785
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:57,679
hopefully that answered your question,

2786
01:45:57,679 --> 01:45:59,520
but I will I would not cut the sheriff

2787
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,800
and the and we need to make sure we we

2788
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,560
are efficient and that's the I mean,

2789
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,480
everybody's budget, you need to find

2790
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,159
efficiencies cuz money doesn't grow on

2791
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:10,400
trees. And I don't believe in if the

2792
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,960
county's raising taxes, that hurts the

2793
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,400
cities cuz then if you have to do a

2794
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,000
bond, I think you just had a board

2795
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,960
session talking about bonding. That

2796
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:20,320
hurts because then the citizens are

2797
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:21,840
feeling the pain, right? So, we just

2798
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,520
need to be careful. But I appreciate

2799
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:24,639
your time. I probably went over two

2800
01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:26,560
minutes, but she did ask me the

2801
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,320
question, but it was a good question.

2802
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,000
>> You're good. Hey, thank you so much.

2803
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,440
leave this report if you want it, but

2804
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:33,920
I've got a plan. There's six or seven to

2805
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:34,239
do.

2806
01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:35,840
>> Is contact information on there for any

2807
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,280
of them to be able to receive

2808
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:38,800
>> right there. Phone number and email, so

2809
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,000
I always have my phone.

2810
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:41,280
>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

2811
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:42,080
>> Thank you.

2812
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:43,920
>> Uh Sherry,

2813
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,719
>> hi. I am not running for political

2814
01:46:46,719 --> 01:46:50,080
office and I don't want to go to jail,

2815
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,000
>> but I do have a comment about the

2816
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,520
roundabout.

2817
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,000
Is there any way in working with the

2818
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,719
county that

2819
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:00,639
uh the funding that they would be

2820
01:47:00,639 --> 01:47:02,960
putting into the roundabout, they just

2821
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:07,600
give to the city? And we put in what we

2822
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,639
feel the citizens and

2823
01:47:10,639 --> 01:47:13,520
would like to see in conjunction with

2824
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,440
what some or um Three Bridges is going

2825
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:21,520
to do to kind of keep all the artistic

2826
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,840
genre the same.

2827
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,920
And I do have a request in my comment

2828
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:32,159
that it's my understanding that this the

2829
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:35,840
county owns that obnoxious very tall

2830
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,960
light that is left on all night long

2831
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,040
down there by the mailboxes. Is that

2832
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:46,310
going to be removed?

2833
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:50,709
Um I don't

2834
01:47:50,719 --> 01:47:53,679
relocate probably but um because they

2835
01:47:53,679 --> 01:47:55,280
have to kind of reconfigure that site

2836
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:56,080
there

2837
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,679
>> right

2838
01:47:57,679 --> 01:47:59,600
>> I don't know what I haven't looked at

2839
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:00,880
the plan close enough to see what that

2840
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,239
light other than I think it says

2841
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:04,400
possibly relocate it

2842
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,040
>> um but I don't know for sure

2843
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,800
>> okay

2844
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,560
>> have to look at the plan a little closer

2845
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,520
on that one

2846
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,280
>> just be nice if they'd give us the money

2847
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,920
of what they would spend on trees and

2848
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,840
whatever else you guys were talking

2849
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,520
about in the work session and then you

2850
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,600
know we can put in what we want to put

2851
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,239
in and use that money. So that's my

2852
01:48:26,239 --> 01:48:28,320
comment. Thank you.

2853
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,080
>> Thank you.

2854
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,239
Okay.

2855
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:33,520
Doesn't look like I have anybody here.

2856
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:39,830
Is there anybody else? Diana or Dorl?

2857
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,560
» You guys are doing great.

2858
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,360
>> Thank you. Thank you, Noral. Anything

2859
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,000
from you?

2860
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,000
>> I didn't know how to mute unmute. Uh,

2861
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,880
no. I'm just uh wanting to step in and

2862
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,840
listen. I apologize for being late.

2863
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,840
Nothing to say, Mayor.

2864
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,360
>> We'll we'll take you in any form we can

2865
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,360
get you, brother.

2866
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:02,880
Okay, then I will close the public

2867
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,040
comment and we're going to move on to

2868
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,239
our business and discussion. Um, a

2869
01:49:08,239 --> 01:49:11,360
motion for the mayor to sign the Utah

2870
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,840
wildland fire memorandum of

2871
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,679
understanding between the Utah Division

2872
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:18,480
of Forestry, Fire, and State Land, and

2873
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:21,199
Woodland Hills.

2874
01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:23,600
>> I'll make a motion.

2875
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,199
>> Uh, okay. Council member Hutchkins with

2876
01:49:25,199 --> 01:49:25,679
the motion.

2877
01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:26,320
>> Second.

2878
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,960
>> Council member Malovich with a second.

2879
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,040
Um, Council Member Lund,

2880
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:31,760
>> yes.

2881
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:32,960
>> Council member Rhoden,

2882
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,280
>> yes. Council member Hutchkins.

2883
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:36,320
>> Yes.

2884
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:37,520
>> Council member Johns,

2885
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:38,159
>> yes.

2886
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:39,520
>> Council member Malovich,

2887
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:40,400
>> yes.

2888
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,520
>> Okay, that motion passes. Um, and a

2889
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,920
motion for the mayor to sign the CPR

2890
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:49,760
contract with for a uh for AAP,

2891
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,159
uh, the pickle bar pickle ball, not the

2892
01:49:52,159 --> 01:49:54,960
pickle bar, the pickle ball courts.

2893
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,320
>> I'll make a motion.

2894
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,560
>> Okay. Council member L with the motion.

2895
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,080
Council member John's with the second.

2896
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,280
Did I hear that right? our our elite

2897
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,520
pickle ball team is making a motion

2898
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:06,560
here.

2899
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,080
>> Council member Jones,

2900
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:08,719
>> yes.

2901
01:50:08,719 --> 01:50:10,480
>> Council member Hutchkins,

2902
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:11,280
>> yes.

2903
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:12,560
>> Council member Lent,

2904
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:13,040
>> yes.

2905
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,080
>> Council member Rhoden,

2906
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:14,400
>> yes.

2907
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:15,679
>> Council member Malovich,

2908
01:50:15,679 --> 01:50:16,480
>> yes.

2909
01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:18,159
>> Got to keep you guys on your toes, you

2910
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:18,960
know,

2911
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:20,400
>> before they change their mind.

2912
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,960
>> Exactly. Um, okay. Approval of the

2913
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,520
April 2026 financials and check

2914
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,760
dispersements.

2915
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:30,400
Motion.

2916
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,080
>> Council member Johns with the motion.

2917
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:32,960
>> I'll second.

2918
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:34,960
>> Council member Rooden with the second.

2919
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,800
Council member Johns.

2920
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:37,440
>> Yes.

2921
01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:38,560
>> Council member Lunt.

2922
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:38,960
>> Yes.

2923
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,639
>> Council member Hutchings.

2924
01:50:40,639 --> 01:50:41,520
>> Yes.

2925
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:42,719
>> Council member Malovich.

2926
01:50:42,719 --> 01:50:43,119
>> Yes.

2927
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:44,239
>> Council member Rhoden.

2928
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:45,119
>> Yes.

2929
01:50:45,119 --> 01:50:47,760
>> Okay. That motion passes as well. Uh

2930
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:51,199
resolution 2026-38

2931
01:50:51,199 --> 01:50:55,119
adopting the 2026 2027 fiscal year

2932
01:50:55,119 --> 01:50:57,280
budget. I know we have a few discussion

2933
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,040
questions.

2934
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,239
Uh yeah, I I wasn't able to be part of

2935
01:51:02,239 --> 01:51:03,840
kind of the final discussions last

2936
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,000
council meeting, but uh a couple things

2937
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,719
that came up. We're we're increasing

2938
01:51:08,719 --> 01:51:11,600
mayor and council wages by about 10K for

2939
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:12,960
this upcoming year.

2940
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:13,600
>> Mhm.

2941
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,280
>> Um so I just wanted to see what the

2942
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:19,280
final conversations were about that.

2943
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,480
>> Uh yes. So that total number would be uh

2944
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:24,400
25,200.

2945
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,040
>> Okay.

2946
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,800
So that roughly is around

2947
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:35,119
what is that 18 - 25 so 7,000

2948
01:51:35,119 --> 01:51:41,109
>> 7,000ish.

2949
01:51:41,119 --> 01:51:42,400
» Yeah. Um

2950
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,719
>> none of us said a whole lot. Yeah, I was

2951
01:51:44,719 --> 01:51:45,280
going to say

2952
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,159
>> none of us said a whole lot about it. We

2953
01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:52,320
>> in my mind it's it's still not much. Um

2954
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,239
it's just more like a little stipen to

2955
01:51:54,239 --> 01:51:57,199
cover you know your expenses. none of us

2956
01:51:57,199 --> 01:51:58,639
are doing it for that tiny little

2957
01:51:58,639 --> 01:52:02,080
paycheck. And but I do think for future

2958
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,159
candidates, I think it's helpful

2959
01:52:04,159 --> 01:52:06,719
because,

2960
01:52:06,719 --> 01:52:09,040
you know, if if you're spending money

2961
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,760
out of your own family's coffers to

2962
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,280
serve and do this job, um that may limit

2963
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,840
a lot of people, good people who um

2964
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:21,199
could run and fill the seat. And I feel

2965
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:22,639
like there, you know, our expenses

2966
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:25,040
should be covered. And so I don't think

2967
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:26,880
any of us oppose it, but none of us are

2968
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,119
also none of us are like spearheading it

2969
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:29,679
or

2970
01:52:29,679 --> 01:52:30,639
>> Yeah. Yeah.

2971
01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:32,560
>> Well, I spoke with a former council

2972
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:36,080
member who was on the council, I believe

2973
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:40,159
four or five mayors ago. Um, and the

2974
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:43,679
wages are the same. Um, so I think there

2975
01:52:43,679 --> 01:52:48,239
is a degree of it it should increase

2976
01:52:48,239 --> 01:52:52,320
with just inflation if nothing else. Um,

2977
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,960
but also like I agree with what Janet

2978
01:52:54,960 --> 01:53:02,000
said. Um, we need to to make sure it's something to at least try and cover

2979
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,320
the costs. You know, it barely covers

2980
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:05,599
campaigning costs, but

2981
01:53:05,599 --> 01:53:07,840
>> it's still not something that's going to

2982
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,679
attract people to run. They're not going

2983
01:53:09,679 --> 01:53:12,400
to run because of this stipen. Like,

2984
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,960
nobody's going to do that, right? It's

2985
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,119
But we also don't want good people to

2986
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:21,280
not run because they can't afford you

2987
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:22,880
know, to pay for things out of their own

2988
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,800
pocket to be able to serve. So that's my standing on it.

2989
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,560
>> Well, I think we are the lowest in the

2990
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,080
state.

2991
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:30,719
I think it

2992
01:53:30,719 --> 01:53:31,920
>> not if you listen to some of our

2993
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:33,280
citizens.

2994
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,599
>> If you look at it from the standpoint of

2995
01:53:35,599 --> 01:53:38,080
you know our kind of size because if you

2996
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,639
look at you know go or some of these are

2997
01:53:42,639 --> 01:53:45,679
much smaller towns but I think when it

2998
01:53:45,679 --> 01:53:48,400
comes to cities we are at the bottom if

2999
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:48,800
not

3000
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,360
>> we still have to travel to all the same

3001
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:52,400
meetings.

3002
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:52,800
>> Yes.

3003
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:54,560
>> Still have to pay the same gas.

3004
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,159
>> What does your gas bill feel like right

3005
01:53:56,159 --> 01:53:58,320
now? Mhm. It's a lot.

3006
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,719
>> Council member John's, I do want to note

3007
01:54:00,719 --> 01:54:03,280
that there will be a public hearing

3008
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:08,239
scheduled for um June 9th where that the

3009
01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:10,880
public can comment on the compensation

3010
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:11,760
as well.

3011
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:13,840
>> Okay. So, so that doesn't

3012
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:15,760
>> wages will be in that public hearing.

3013
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,760
>> Okay, that's good. So, so it's not like

3014
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,560
this automatically becomes a you know a

3015
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:22,800
pool to pull from. That's that's the big

3016
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,199
thing is I don't want it to seem like a

3017
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:27,119
self-serving

3018
01:54:27,119 --> 01:54:29,199
approval. You know what I mean? So,

3019
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:31,119
>> right. People if they want to think that

3020
01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:31,920
they still will.

3021
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,679
>> Yeah, they will. And and I'm okay with

3022
01:54:33,679 --> 01:54:36,000
that. I just like I said, I just wanted

3023
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,960
to know. I mean, I'm just erring stuff

3024
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:40,880
out because it's just what I do. So,

3025
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,520
>> no, no, I think it's good and and it it

3026
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:44,880
for people that are listening, it's good

3027
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:45,840
to

3028
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,080
>> to be stated.

3029
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,080
>> Um, my other Steve

3030
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,840
>> Yeah. Sorry. I I agree with you. Um the

3031
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,239
one thing I'd like to point out is I I

3032
01:54:56,239 --> 01:54:59,760
see the mayor's role uh becoming more

3033
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,480
and more every year as I've sat through

3034
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,159
council and as I became a council

3035
01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:06,880
member, I do see the mayor's role in the

3036
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,159
executive side um needing an increase

3037
01:55:10,159 --> 01:55:11,520
just because of the amount of time that

3038
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,199
they're putting in. And I and I get that

3039
01:55:13,199 --> 01:55:16,480
as on the council are as well. I'm I'm

3040
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,480
actually against raising the council

3041
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,360
wages. Um, but I'm not going to stop a

3042
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,280
budget because of that because I I agree

3043
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,599
with everything else in the budget. And

3044
01:55:25,599 --> 01:55:27,840
I think it's a a give and take type of

3045
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:31,199
thing. But I agree with the other raises

3046
01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:33,679
that are are put in. And and again,

3047
01:55:33,679 --> 01:55:38,639
yeah, I know that there's going to be a public hearing. Um, but uh I do want

3048
01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:41,679
to point out that that I don't agree.

3049
01:55:41,679 --> 01:55:44,960
Um, I think that the council as as a

3050
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:48,080
whole, I think we are better off having

3051
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,360
the people who want to do it. Um, I

3052
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,000
don't think that there should be a a a a

3053
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,080
money incentive there. I think the mayor

3054
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,480
actually does quite a bit. Um, I've

3055
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,239
watched through the last few mayors and

3056
01:56:00,239 --> 01:56:02,080
seen what they put into it and I think

3057
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,320
that that does need to increase. Um,

3058
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,239
just just so my thoughts are heard out

3059
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:08,320
there as well. Um, I actually disagree

3060
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,280
with with raising the council wages.

3061
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,360
>> Well, and I think too, Brian, you don't

3062
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,320
want it to be an incentive, the the pay

3063
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,639
to be an incentive to run, but you also

3064
01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:20,880
don't want the lack of pay to be an

3065
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,760
incentive not to run. Uh, we need good

3066
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,800
people who will serve our community and

3067
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:30,560
not feel, I mean, that their family has

3068
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,440
to supplement the city budget because

3069
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,199
they've they're already paying taxes as

3070
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:37,280
well. And so I think there is a balance

3071
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,000
there to make sure that good people will

3072
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:44,000
step forward and um recognizing that

3073
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,679
most of the expenses that we each

3074
01:56:45,679 --> 01:56:47,040
individually have that we cover

3075
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:50,080
ourselves. Um but so we don't want it to

3076
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:51,679
be a deterrent and we don't want it to

3077
01:56:51,679 --> 01:56:53,280
be an incentive and there's a fine line

3078
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:57,750
there.

3079
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,119
» Thank you.

3080
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:00,159
>> Anything else?

3081
01:57:00,159 --> 01:57:02,400
>> So sorry. Do you care if I

3082
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:03,280
>> please?

3083
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,199
>> I've got four questions in total, so it

3084
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:10,480
won't be long, but uh um 414100

3085
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,239
admin salaries and wages.

3086
01:57:12,239 --> 01:57:12,719
>> Yes.

3087
01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:14,800
>> So

3088
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,599
after after losing Chris on that, we're

3089
01:57:17,599 --> 01:57:20,560
still increasing that budget about 50k.

3090
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:21,040
>> Mhm.

3091
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,639
>> Um

3092
01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:24,560
>> so I just wanted to get a little more

3093
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:25,920
insight on that. I mean, I know we've

3094
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,199
got our breakdowns and we're talking

3095
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:29,760
about pay increases for staff. I just

3096
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:31,920
wanted to know how that offset with

3097
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:33,840
Chris leaving.

3098
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:36,960
>> Great question. Um, and I and I that's a

3099
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,000
perfect question. I want you to go with

3100
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,679
me to

3101
01:57:43,679 --> 01:57:47,350
um

3102
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:57,189
uh let's go to 4110.100.

3103
01:57:57,199 --> 01:58:07,910
And it should be streets wages

3104
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,880
» 44 sorry 4410

3105
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:12,239
>> should be in roads.

3106
01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:13,199
>> Okay. Yeah.

3107
01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:14,639
>> Helps when I give you the right number.

3108
01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:15,119
Sorry.

3109
01:58:15,119 --> 01:58:17,280
>> Okay. So so that has effectively just

3110
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,040
rolled up into that category at this

3111
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:19,360
point.

3112
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,520
>> Yes. And that will be one of our issues

3113
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,040
when we're looking at the

3114
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:24,000
year-over-year,

3115
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:24,400
>> okay?

3116
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,599
>> Cuz you'll also see snow plowing wages

3117
01:58:27,599 --> 01:58:31,199
will stay the same. Um, parks salaries

3118
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:34,000
and wages is also going from 11,000 to

3119
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:38,480
zero. Um, so basically what I did is it

3120
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,800
used to be extrapolated over those three

3121
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,599
different funds within the general fund

3122
01:58:43,599 --> 01:58:46,800
and I said it's it's too confusing. So,

3123
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:48,719
I eliminated all of those line line

3124
01:58:48,719 --> 01:58:51,040
items and brought them all just to that

3125
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:54,320
in admin. So, while it does look like

3126
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,639
we're going from $175,000

3127
01:58:56,639 --> 01:58:59,520
to 212,000,

3128
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,159
there's actually $120,000

3129
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:05,360
decrease in essence because you'll also

3130
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:09,440
see a $30,000 or $15,000 or 12,000 what

3131
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,360
I don't have the exact numbers here in

3132
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:15,360
this spreadsheet for our new bookkeeper.

3133
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,520
Um, so that's why we went from the

3134
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:21,280
150,000 is now no longer on that.

3135
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,760
>> So she'll be in wages. She's not a

3136
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:24,719
contract.

3137
01:59:24,719 --> 01:59:27,599
>> She is a contract. So she actually shows

3138
01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:30,880
up in um

3139
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,280
uh one of the prof the professional

3140
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:34,560
services.

3141
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:38,400
>> Okay. And so in that 120

3142
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:43,520
you know net um delta deduction does

3143
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,080
that account for the discussion about

3144
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:48,960
pay increase for the staff?

3145
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:52,960
>> Uh so there is a decrease of that number

3146
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,000
>> per the wage increases. So I believe

3147
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,320
>> when we ran the numbers it was what

3148
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,199
$80,000 still savings

3149
02:00:01,199 --> 02:00:02,880
>> a little bit more than that because we

3150
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:05,440
still had health insurance savings,

3151
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:10,790
retirement savings where it decreases.

3152
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:15,040
» Okay. But um Charlene is in admin

3153
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:19,040
professional wages for salary or hourly

3154
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,080
rate is um calculated there.

3155
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,679
>> Okay. So that's at 4141.35.

3156
02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:32,800
>> Beautiful. Um and then city repairs and sorry two more. City city repairs.

3157
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:35,119
Um we're up about 120.

3158
02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:37,520
>> Um and I know we talked about several

3159
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,400
projects um several allocations, but I

3160
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,599
just wanted to see what uh what kind of

3161
02:00:43,599 --> 02:00:46,880
the final big projects were that that

3162
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,159
went into that 120k number.

3163
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:54,719
>> Great question. Okay. So what that was

3164
02:00:54,719 --> 02:00:58,560
um was we did let me make sure

3165
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:00,239
cuz I'm looking at that

3166
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:02,080
>> 4141 649.

3167
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,960
>> So 649 that is a a rekeying of the

3168
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:06,800
building with actually will now come out

3169
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:10,320
of this uh this year not next year's but

3170
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:13,199
that's also a repainting of the inside

3171
02:01:13,199 --> 02:01:16,719
of the city center at 10,000. Um that is

3172
02:01:16,719 --> 02:01:18,800
additional landscaping at the city

3173
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:21,360
building at 5,000.

3174
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,840
um flooring options for half of the

3175
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,920
building potentially.

3176
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:29,040
Um that is

3177
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:30,719
some

3178
02:01:30,719 --> 02:01:34,719
replacing the two fridges a fridge.

3179
02:01:34,719 --> 02:01:38,080
Um that's some HVAC work. So basically

3180
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,440
the building is hitting around that 15

3181
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,440
years 15 years old 12 years old

3182
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:45,040
something like that.

3183
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:46,960
>> 14 years old. So

3184
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:48,639
>> it was 14 this month.

3185
02:01:48,639 --> 02:01:50,239
>> Protective glass things like that. That

3186
02:01:50,239 --> 02:01:52,320
is that stuff part of Okay,

3187
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:53,280
>> that was the next one.

3188
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:54,560
>> So, kind of the things that we talked

3189
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:55,920
about in our budget meeting, there

3190
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,560
wasn't anything out outside of that that

3191
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:01,840
>> the only thing that jumped was this wall

3192
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:03,760
right here on the exterior.

3193
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:04,960
>> Oh, the Yeah.

3194
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,679
>> Um, it had been allocated at around

3195
02:02:07,679 --> 02:02:10,159
15,000 and it's looking like it'll be

3196
02:02:10,159 --> 02:02:12,639
closer to what was it? 31.

3197
02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:14,719
>> 31. And that also takes into

3198
02:02:14,719 --> 02:02:18,560
consideration repainting the outside um

3199
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,679
doing the eaves and the dormers where

3200
02:02:21,679 --> 02:02:23,360
it's been coming apart.

3201
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:24,639
>> It's multiple places

3202
02:02:24,639 --> 02:02:25,920
>> and making repairs.

3203
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,480
>> When we had this bid

3204
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:31,440
uh this entire side of the building is

3205
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,840
extremely compromised from the exterior.

3206
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,560
So there's OSB replacement in there.

3207
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:37,040
>> Okay.

3208
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:39,040
>> The damage is quite extensive.

3209
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:40,480
>> Okay.

3210
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:41,840
No, that that's great. I

3211
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:45,040
appreciate that. Um,

3212
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,119
and then my my last question on the

3213
02:02:47,119 --> 02:02:50,480
budget was PTR was about 150 and I'm not

3214
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,679
sure if that accounts for some of the

3215
02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:57,440
grant matching that that sort of thing.

3216
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:58,880
>> That is where the pickle ball court

3217
02:02:58,880 --> 02:02:59,360
lives.

3218
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:03,040
>> Okay, great. Okay, so sorry. Thank you

3219
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:06,320
for letting me ask those questions. Now,

3220
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:09,520
>> I I am always happy to have any budget

3221
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:11,040
questions.

3222
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,229
Any

3223
02:03:14,239 --> 02:03:16,639
other questions from anybody?

3224
02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:19,360
Okay, then I'll accept a motion. Mayor,

3225
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:20,400
>> yes.

3226
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:23,520
>> Did you cover the consent agenda?

3227
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:28,239
>> I don't have any consent agenda item.

3228
02:03:28,239 --> 02:03:30,239
>> Okay, you got removed then.

3229
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:30,639
>> Yeah.

3230
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:31,520
>> Okay.

3231
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:32,080
>> Sorry.

3232
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:33,440
>> Nope. You're good.

3233
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:36,080
>> I'll move to approve the or approve the

3234
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,800
resolution for the budget.

3235
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:40,320
>> Okay. Okay. Council member Jones with a

3236
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:41,360
motion.

3237
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:42,400
>> I'll second.

3238
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,560
>> Council member Malovich with a second.

3239
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,080
Council member Hutchkins.

3240
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:47,040
>> Yes.

3241
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,480
>> Council member Lunt.

3242
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:49,119
>> Yes.

3243
02:03:49,119 --> 02:03:50,560
>> Council member Malovich.

3244
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:51,040
>> Yes.

3245
02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:52,239
>> Council member John's.

3246
02:03:52,239 --> 02:03:52,800
>> Yes.

3247
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,000
>> Council member Rhoden.

3248
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,199
>> Yes.

3249
02:03:55,199 --> 02:04:01,760
>> Okay. That motion passes. Passes. Um I do have a few things that I'd like

3250
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:06,000
to discuss um concerning uh uh potential

3251
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:10,000
legal um issues. um to go into close

3252
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,080
session. So, if I can get a motion, we

3253
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:13,599
will go into close session.

3254
02:04:13,599 --> 02:04:14,560
>> I'll motion.

3255
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:15,199
>> I'll second.

3256
02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:17,040
>> Council member Malovich with the motion

3257
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:20,639
and council member Lunt with the second.

3258
02:04:20,639 --> 02:04:22,560
Um Council Member Malovich,

3259
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:22,880
>> yes.

3260
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:23,920
>> Council member Jones,

3261
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:24,639
>> yes.

3262
02:04:24,639 --> 02:04:26,400
>> Council member Hutchkins,

3263
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:27,440
>> yes.

3264
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:28,480
>> Council member Rhoden,

3265
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:28,880
>> yes.

3266
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:30,239
>> Council member Lent,

3267
02:04:30,239 --> 02:04:30,880
>> yep.

3268
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:35,440
>> Okay, then we are going to head into

3269
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,080
uh close session. those online, uh,

3270
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:40,239
Diana, Sherry, and Dorl, thank you so

3271
02:04:40,239 --> 02:04:43,679
much for joining us. Um,

3272
02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:56,870
>> we appreciate your participation.

3273
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,199
» Okay, we are uh we are back from close

3274
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:01,360
session. Do I have a motion to adjurnn?

3275
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:02,480
>> So moved.

3276
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,320
>> Okay, we are adjourned.

3277
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:07,520
>> Thank you, everybody.