1 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:25,429 Very 2 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:28,479 good. It's June 17, 3 00:01:28,479 --> 00:01:30,880 2026. 4 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Command Planning Commission of Woodland 5 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:34,560 Hills is 6 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,360 now in session. 7 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,799 We'll start with a public hearing 8 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:44,479 uh to hear public comment on 9 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:48,960 one of one of two things. Um the first 10 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,079 is the general plan. It's been 11 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:53,920 completed, 12 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,320 reviewed by 13 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,799 um planning commission 14 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:01,680 and uh city council 15 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,960 and they have made a few uh changes to 16 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,920 it from what we did, but not really 17 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,160 anything significant. 18 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,200 Um, and I it's been out there for the 19 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,879 public to look at for a number of of uh 20 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:18,640 weeks 21 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,280 and so we'll 22 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,760 in its finished state 23 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,480 uh take any public comment. I don't see 24 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,560 anybody here 25 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,280 and we don't see anybody online 26 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 for that. So, 27 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,480 we will close public comment on public 28 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,400 hearing for that. And the uh second 29 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,160 item, 30 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,200 a number of months ago, we passed 31 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,080 a change in uh one of our ordinances 32 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,160 having to do with uh a hazardous 33 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 um 34 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,319 study that needed to be done on some 35 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:03,680 lots where there was 36 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,239 uh issues, whether it was earthquake 37 00:03:06,239 --> 00:03:10,159 faults or [clears throat] uh avalanche 38 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:14,879 or any other number of things. We and we 39 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:17,599 changed that statute. And there's one 40 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:20,080 that we overlook that's relating to 41 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,680 that. It's on the second page of that handout that I gave you. 42 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,640 These are the requirements um for um 43 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:34,239 somebody doing doing their site plan and 44 00:03:34,239 --> 00:03:37,120 it's a natural hazard study for home 45 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,959 located in identified hazard areas. 46 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:43,840 And we're adding if required. It says 47 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,280 when required, but if required. So it's 48 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,959 up to the city engineer if he wants to 49 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:54,000 have them do that, but it's optional 50 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,599 now. 51 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:59,360 um one of these studies costs some can 52 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,680 cost upwards of $78,000. So sometimes 53 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,239 it's maybe not necessary, not that 54 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:09,680 critical and so the city engineer will 55 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,360 make a decision as to whether or not to 56 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,239 require a hazardous study or not. So we 57 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:18,000 overlook making a change on that thing. 58 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,720 So that's what the second public hearing 59 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,199 is uh to take comment on that and again 60 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:27,840 I don't see anybody here or nobody 61 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:29,759 zoomed in. 62 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:37,199 So we will close the public hearing on those two matters and go then into 63 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:38,960 our 64 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,240 uh agenda and further discuss those 65 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,040 amongst the planning commission members. 66 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Um, Severign, would you offer our 67 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,440 invocation? 68 00:04:49,440 --> 00:05:00,070 And Lori, would you lead us in a pledge? 69 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Oh kindly, gracious eternal heavenly 70 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,639 father, we're grateful for this 71 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:07,360 opportunity to serve 72 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,280 as part of the planning commission with 73 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:12,479 us and that they would bless us as we 74 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,960 deliberate this day and discuss those 75 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,280 things that impact the 76 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,320 citizens of our city. that we may have 77 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,160 thy spirit to guide us and help us to 78 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,440 make recommendations 79 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,280 that would be in accordance with thy 80 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,440 will. We pray in the name of thy son 81 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Jesus Christ. Amen. 82 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:43,029 >> Amen. [clears throat] 83 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:46,560 I pledge algiance to the flag of the 84 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,840 United States of America and to the 85 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,919 republic for which it stands. One nation 86 00:05:53,919 --> 00:05:58,000 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 87 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,560 justice for all. 88 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,510 >> Thank you both. 89 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Open it to any public comment. 90 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,479 No one is here and no one online. 91 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:14,080 So 92 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,000 we will close that portion of our agenda 93 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,120 and move into our item number seven 94 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,880 approval of April 15, 2026 95 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,840 planning commission meeting minutes. Um 96 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,840 that's the last time we met. We didn't 97 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:34,960 meet in May. So, uh, I'll take a motion 98 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,720 on, uh, approving those minutes of April 99 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,150 15. 100 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,520 » I'll make a motion to approve the 101 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,840 minutes of April 15th. 102 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:51,600 >> Okay, I'll second it. Ry Thomas made a 103 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,800 first. John Stout made a second. All in 104 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,840 favor? 105 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:59,120 >> I. Any opposed? 106 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,039 All right, 107 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:03,759 we'll go into the uh discussion for the 108 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:08,400 planning commission on the general plan. 109 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Um 110 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,840 any 111 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,919 further thoughts or comments that 112 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:20,080 any of you have to make on that? Well, 113 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,160 the 114 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,000 >> do you have 115 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,280 anything to share with us in terms of 116 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,520 what the minor changes were that the 117 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,880 city council made? 118 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,599 >> You know, I didn't I didn't take notes 119 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:37,360 of it. There were a few goal changes 120 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,599 that they adjusted, one or two, and the 121 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:44,080 others. There was nothing major. there 122 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,280 was a maybe a word or a sentence here or 123 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,759 there that uh they changed or modified. 124 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:55,280 Um but uh nothing that I I took 125 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,680 exception to with what they were doing 126 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,080 and they're were they I think they were 127 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,960 relatively minor. Seems like there was 128 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,199 one that they had a little bit of 129 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:08,635 discussion or debate about. Um, 130 00:08:08,635 --> 00:08:09,919 [clears throat] 131 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:12,479 not that it was bad, but the a better 132 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:15,120 way to say something. And they had quite 133 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,879 a talk about that, but I can't remember 134 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:19,360 which one it was. 135 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,120 >> Happy. 136 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,000 >> Say again. 137 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,280 >> Happy to go. 138 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,665 >> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. 139 00:08:25,665 --> 00:08:27,199 [laughter] 140 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:30,400 So, um, I I glanced through it this 141 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,159 morning and I liked the additions of the 142 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:35,440 different things, the mapping that 143 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,360 they've included. in now we're seeing 144 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,680 now that we didn't have in there. That's 145 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:41,839 really nice. So these hazard studies 146 00:08:41,839 --> 00:08:43,279 we're talking about. 147 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:43,919 >> Yes. 148 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:45,680 >> Now people if they buy a lot in that 149 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,360 area, they can understand that that is 150 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,880 in that area or whatever. So 151 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,080 >> yeah. 152 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,080 >> So there's a few additions to it that I 153 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,360 did like 154 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,720 >> they uh what we hadn't seen too was this 155 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,240 uh executive summary that we didn't have 156 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,519 when we did our review. And uh so that's 157 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:07,680 included now just kind of a short 158 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:13,200 summary of of uh the different areas. Um 159 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,560 we're also going to add an index to this 160 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:20,320 here and um 161 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,560 list of all those who participated on 162 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:25,040 the committee, the planning commission 163 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,480 and the city council. There'll be a page 164 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,600 of that in here as well. And then the 165 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,600 survey that they conducted is at the 166 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,399 very end. 167 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:34,800 >> Yeah. 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,120 >> So we've added that just as a 169 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:37,600 information. 170 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,519 >> I liked that survey. I thought that was 171 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:42,720 >> can see that in its entirety. And 172 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,200 >> did [laughter and clears throat] the 173 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,240 chairman of the community development 174 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,080 committee have any concerns that she 175 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,200 expressed about the changes that we made or the 176 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,680 changes the city council made? 177 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,640 >> No, nothing has come back. Okay. 178 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,440 >> With any kind of criticism or 179 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,800 >> we haven't had a meeting. 180 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,640 >> No, I 181 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,680 my impression is that it's over. That 182 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,760 committee is over. 183 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,560 Um next 184 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:18,399 >> Well, we're still working strategic 185 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:18,880 plan. 186 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,600 >> Well, yes and no. 187 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,839 >> Okay. Um my understanding is they that a 188 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:29,920 strategic plan has been presented. 189 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Um but it's not going to get it's like a 190 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,600 couple of pages and uh the mayor wasn't 191 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,560 too happy with it. I wasn't either. I 192 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,880 thought that our general plan covered 193 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,600 these areas and goals and so forth and 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,360 it was designed for more short-term 195 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,440 um 196 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,440 steps in towards completing a a part of 197 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,079 the general plan if it was a if it was 198 00:10:58,079 --> 00:10:59,519 something that needed to be further 199 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:02,000 worked on. Did the council member have 200 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,880 any concern about it? Cuz she was the 201 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,720 one that was one of the council members, 202 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,240 the one that kind of pushed it. 203 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:16,399 The the strategic plan was given to 204 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:19,120 us, the council, after the council 205 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,800 review. 206 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,320 So, the council hasn't seen it. Next 207 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,839 week on Tuesday night, um the mayor 208 00:11:27,839 --> 00:11:31,440 plans on presenting this as a final to 209 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,240 the council again. So I don't know if 210 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,800 there will be further discussion about 211 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,920 putting elements or putting a strategic 212 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,880 plan in here, but I didn't think it 213 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,120 served much purpose because I thought 214 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,279 the general plan covered pretty much 215 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:51,600 covered the things that needed to be in there. 216 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,360 So 217 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,720 whether the council will change her 218 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:00,480 mind, I don't know. Um, so 219 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,920 anyway, that's uh that's that's 220 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,680 it. And if there's no further changes, 221 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,399 then I think the the development 222 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:13,360 committee will cease to function. their 223 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,079 whole purpose was to put this together 224 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:18,720 and and they won't have any further 225 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,720 function and they'll I think be be um 226 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,079 released from that assignment. 227 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:27,760 So 228 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,440 um 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,839 I know we've voted on it already. I 230 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:34,880 would like to vote on it again with its 231 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,399 entirety the way it is with the 232 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:39,279 executive summary and just making sure 233 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:42,639 that we're we're happy satisfied with it 234 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:46,320 as it uh goes to the council for one for 235 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,880 one last time. We um we only had one 236 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,920 public input 237 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,079 and uh there was a written input but 238 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:02,320 most of most of that input was not 239 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,120 uh germanine to the general plan. They 240 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,120 were talking about some changing some 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,160 ordinances and a few other things like 242 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,760 that that and some ideas about different 243 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,920 things in the city, but it wasn't it 244 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,560 didn't go into the general plan. 245 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:22,399 >> Wasn't there supposed to be a community 246 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:24,240 meeting 247 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,200 where they could provide input like we 248 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,279 did last time? 249 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:30,480 >> We did have that. 250 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,600 >> Oh, all right. Um it was quite a long 251 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,920 time ago and that's where the idea with 252 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,399 the housing the moderate income housing 253 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:38,800 came up. 254 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,800 >> That was the one that I mean that was 255 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,279 before the general plan was written. 256 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:45,440 >> Uh yeah 257 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,160 >> that was 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,120 >> I thought we had to have one after where 259 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,079 the community could review the general 260 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:53,600 plan and make comments. 261 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,360 >> That's that's why the general plan's 262 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,279 been out on the web page. 263 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:00,399 >> Okay. and available for the community to 264 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:01,839 make comment on if they 265 00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:03,519 >> and that's where the written 266 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:07,600 >> the one written statement came. Yeah. 267 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,160 >> So, 268 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,519 all right. Um, with that said, I'll I'll 269 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:17,760 take a I'll take a a motion if somebody 270 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,880 wants to make one to adopt it the way it 271 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:27,120 is. I move that we uh recommend adoption 272 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,160 of the general plan as modified by the 273 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,959 planning commission and city council 274 00:14:34,959 --> 00:14:38,320 with the added executive summit. 275 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,920 >> All right. 276 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,519 Any second to that motion? 277 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:42,639 >> I'll second that. 278 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:44,260 >> Okay. 279 00:14:44,260 --> 00:14:45,519 [snorts] 280 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:47,760 All in favor? 281 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,920 >> Any opposed? 282 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Very good. We'll pass that on to the 283 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,279 city council then for for one last time. 284 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:58,480 Appreciate your input all along that 285 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,240 we've had as we reviewed it and um I I 286 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,079 think it's pretty pretty good. Um, I 287 00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:08,639 think it addresses the some of the needs 288 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:13,120 that the city has and um, I it's it's my 289 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,680 goal hopefully that we'll maybe try to 290 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,040 give a little bit more attention to it 291 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,519 than we have in years past to general 292 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:22,480 plans to guide us in different decisions 293 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,079 and things that come before us. So, 294 00:15:26,079 --> 00:15:28,560 we'll see how that goes. 295 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Um 296 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:37,990 uh this change to uh uh title 10.45 297 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,399 section E 298 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:44,320 uh having to do with the hazard study 299 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,680 adopt doing that when if required. I'll 300 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,880 take a motion on uh approving that and 301 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,680 moving it to the city council. 302 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,480 I'll make a motion to approve the 303 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,440 amendment to city code 10.4.5 304 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,519 requiring drawings and information on 305 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:02,959 the hazard study. 306 00:16:02,959 --> 00:16:05,519 >> Okay. Is there a second to that? 307 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:07,680 >> I'll second that. 308 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,000 >> All right. All in favor? 309 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 >> I. Any opposed? 310 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,880 Very well. That uh generally concludes 311 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,800 our business and discussion tonight. 312 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Under miscellaneous. O wanted to inform 313 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,440 you all that um 314 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,600 an individual named uh Gayen Riggs is is 315 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,839 our alternate planning commissioner. Um 316 00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:37,680 he'll be with us as he's able to 317 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,680 uh he's has a position in branch 318 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,880 presidency at the MTC and so that takes 319 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,920 some of his time right now. It'll it'll 320 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,279 lighten up as time goes on. So, uh, he 321 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:56,160 lives over in Summit Creek and, um, he's 322 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,959 lived there for probably about, I don't 323 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:00,720 know, maybe three or four years. 324 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,240 >> Yeah. And uh so I've talked to him and 325 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,280 >> so we we still need to find a permit. 326 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,880 >> It's we're it's I I 327 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,919 with a public this being public we we 328 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:16,400 have one hopefully the mayor was 329 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,600 supposed to interview him this week and 330 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,679 um if he does then he'll be presented 331 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:26,559 next Tuesday night to the council for 332 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:28,799 their supporting vote. It's a 333 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:33,039 recommendation that John uh had made uh 334 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:37,039 a while ago. Um 335 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:39,440 and once we're through with the with the 336 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,600 meeting, share share that with 337 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,630 everybody. 338 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,470 Um 339 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,039 any anything else from general 340 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:53,840 discussion or 341 00:17:53,840 --> 00:18:00,799 questions or concerns for this meeting? If not, I'll take a 342 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:02,640 motion to 343 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,960 >> I have a question. We don't know 344 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,200 anything about the time frame of the 345 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,280 mailboxes. 346 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Do we? 347 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,880 um 348 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,480 not as much as we'd like to. 349 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,200 >> Okay. [laughter] 350 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,160 >> The um 351 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,919 >> just kind of waiting on the county. 352 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:20,960 >> Well, the the county has finished 100% 353 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,720 design of it and I think they're getting 354 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,582 ready to go out with bids for it. Um 355 00:18:29,582 --> 00:18:32,710 [clears throat] 356 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,400 Ben has been awarded the contract to do 357 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,120 the temporary 358 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:45,760 um mailboxes here with a container and 359 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,120 so they're in the process of working 360 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:50,799 through that. He submitted a bid and 361 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:53,163 they've accepted that to do that. 362 00:18:53,163 --> 00:18:55,280 [clears throat] Um 363 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,710 so 364 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,760 that's kind of where things are. I know 365 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,240 that um 366 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,360 Three Bridges want was wanting to get 367 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:08,880 their 368 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,360 civil engineer together with our 369 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:12,960 architect 370 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,200 to 371 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,720 um further the [clears throat] basic 372 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,919 design I think is done. but to now put 373 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:26,240 it in in a setting and know how much 374 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,240 dirt's got to be brought in and do all 375 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,240 of that work around around it. They 376 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,440 haven't put it out for bid yet um for 377 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,919 the actually building of the structure, 378 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:41,520 but they're they're close close to it, I 379 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,960 think. So, that's kind of where things 380 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,760 are. Um, the mayor wants to uh have a 381 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,520 little I don't know if they're going to 382 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,760 make it a contest or what, but but paint 383 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,600 the whole container and then one of two 384 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,240 things. either have people paint their 385 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,799 own little design on on a part of it or 386 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:10,799 to have he saw a uh a a painting that 387 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:15,919 was the size of the container with uh a 388 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:19,280 celebratory picture of it of the 250th 389 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,589 anniversary of the country. 390 00:20:21,589 --> 00:20:21,679 >> [clears throat] 391 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:24,400 >> and he was wondering about seeing trying 392 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,720 to put something like that on it out 393 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,280 here 394 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,069 cover up the ugliness on being. 395 00:20:32,069 --> 00:20:33,760 [laughter] 396 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,320 So that's being talked about but no 397 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,799 decisions made on that and that's 398 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:41,120 that'll probably be entirely on us. It's 399 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:42,799 not something that the three bridges 400 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:47,120 would participate in. So but thanks for 401 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:48,960 the question. Good question. It's kind 402 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,559 of been a while. I don't know if you've 403 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,880 talked to the architect recently or 404 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,200 >> I talked to him about two weeks ago and 405 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,520 he said that he had a meeting set up. So 406 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,120 I think that meeting might have already 407 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,320 happened 408 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,480 >> between him and the civil engineer. He 409 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,320 had at the time he hadn't received the 410 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,679 civils drawings yet. 411 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:06,000 >> Okay. 412 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,360 >> And he was going to incorporate it all 413 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:08,080 together. All right. 414 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,960 >> And I think that's probably happened. 415 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,159 I think from what I've seen with the road design, 416 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:18,159 um 417 00:21:18,159 --> 00:21:22,640 it'll the the mailboxes will be will be 418 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,240 set back and a little bit further to the 419 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,400 east than what they are now. 420 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,000 So, 421 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,480 um they generally got an area to put it 422 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,679 in as now that the [clears throat] 423 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:42,880 the uh roundabout they're going to keep 424 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,200 the same interior size of what we have 425 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,720 now, but there'll be an added 426 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,600 uh maybe 10 ft around that uh to enlarge 427 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 it for the accommodate the roads that 428 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,400 they're that are putting in there. So, 429 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,480 they've left it up to us. 430 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,919 It's questionable who's going to pay for 431 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:11,520 it, but for a city sign or something 432 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,520 there, if we wanted to put it in the 433 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,480 roundabout, he said that would be fine. 434 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,520 It's possible. There's been talk about 435 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720 putting it on the side or the backside 436 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,679 of the mail facility down there, 437 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:30,000 depending on how it's situated. But uh 438 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,400 that they they 439 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,640 want to make something very attractive. 440 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,120 I don't know if any of you driven up to 441 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:43,200 uh Elkridge and seen the sign that they the city sign they have they have 442 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,799 an elk big elk. 443 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,880 >> Oh yeah, I did see that and it's very 444 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,919 attractive. It's nice. So they wondered 445 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:52,080 about maybe not duplicating it but 446 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,170 having something long a 447 00:22:56,170 --> 00:22:57,760 [laughter] 448 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,440 >> bridge kind of goes down. 449 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,320 >> Yeah. 450 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,559 >> Be great if we can keep the flags in it. 451 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,799 >> They are they decided 452 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:05,919 >> there's not trees. 453 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,760 >> Keep the flags there. 454 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,919 >> You know 455 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:12,000 I don't like the trees. I I've almost 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,480 had a couple of accidents because you 457 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,720 can't see through it. But all the 458 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,200 engineers say, "Well, the trees you 459 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840 can't see, so you slow down." You know, 460 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,000 people don't don't do that. So that's 461 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,080 I'm I'm hoping that's still a negotiable 462 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,280 thing. They are putting some low plants 463 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,120 in there, you know, cover ground cover 464 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:38,149 and stuff. Um, 465 00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:40,559 and keep sewing trees in there. So, I I 466 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:41,440 don't know what that 467 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,080 >> I I would like to not have anything that 468 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080 needs watering. Just have big boulders 469 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,000 and bra, you know, make it look nice, 470 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,720 but not needing. 471 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,559 >> Yeah, there's talk talk about putting 472 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:54,720 some in there, [laughter] 473 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,159 >> but uh the trees, you know, that I 474 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:00,320 really I I see them as being dangerous. 475 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320 I really I've almost had a couple of 476 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,360 accidents 477 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,120 >> entering it when a car is just, you 478 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:06,559 know, coming around there and you didn't 479 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,240 see it because the trees block your 480 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,880 view. Maybe with the bigger circle it'll 481 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,600 be the vision will be different. 482 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,000 >> Yeah, that's that's true too. It'll be 483 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,840 less 484 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,440 opportunity to have an accident there 485 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,360 with it with it bigger. So that's kind 486 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:28,080 of where where that's at. So 487 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,159 uh well anything else or make a motion 488 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:35,039 to to adjourn? 489 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,279 >> I'll make a motion to that we adjourn. 490 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:38,000 Okay, 491 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,120 >> I'll second that. 492 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:42,000 >> All right. All in favor? 493 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:51,190 >> I You go back. 494 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,440 » I think we set a record tonight. Maybe.