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Uh, Provolad changed their name Prov.

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we're starting slightly late. Um,

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but we're really glad you guys are here.

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Um, we're going to start with the public

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hearing. This is a petition to vacate a

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portion of Eagle's Nest. Uh, this is

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consistent with a developer agreement

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approved by the city council back in

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2022.

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So, if there's anybody here from the

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public who would like to speak on the

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vacating of Eagle's Nest.

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hearing for the petition to vacate the

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portion of Eagle's Nest. We will open a

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public hearing for amending the city fee

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schedule.

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will close the public hearing for the

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mending the city fees schedule. And now

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public hearing for amending of the 2026

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fiscal year budget.

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Lucky, you got anything for us?

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Okay, perfect. Not hearing anything for

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that public hearing. We will close the

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public hearing for amending the 2026

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fiscal year uh budget. Uh we will move

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into our work session. Um this is where

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the city council will discuss uh and

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present. Uh there will be no formal

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action taking during this discussion

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point. Um that will come later. Uh we're

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going to move to number four. Update on

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the planning commission public hearing.

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uh including the planning commission

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recommendation to approve the general

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plan and discussion of the proposed

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general plan. Uh wing

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our planning commission uh last week we

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had uh a public hearing on the general

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plan. It had it's been out in uh public

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uh through our website for several weeks

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uh including

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um all the updates and changes to it

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made by both the planning commission and

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the city council

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as you all reviewed it. uh we did not

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have any further public comment on it or

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recommendations that came from the

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public. We uh took a the planning

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commission took a vote on it again uh in

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its completed uh stage.

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It was unanimously approved and

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recommended to you all the city council

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to to approve it. Um we I might mention

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that uh there was on our three or four

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weeks ago a um semblance of a strategic

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plan that was provided was by the um the the committee and and Daniel

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Jensen, the contractor. we we did not

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include that in our recommendations. We

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felt that there was sufficient

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itself. Uh and um so we did not we're

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not recommending any part of that

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strategic plan. Up to you whether you

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want to adopt it or not but we felt that

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the general plan was sufficient and

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could stand by itself. in that regard.

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general plan to the strategic plan?

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that there was enough substance to the

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strategic plan to have it kind of stand

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on its own and be there. that the

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general plan was sufficient and covered

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the goals as as needed as we went

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the council that the general plan is the

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planning commission's document that they

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give to us and it's a framework for the

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city. The strategic plan is not a

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general is not a planning commission

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document. It's a city council document.

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commission to approve or not approve.

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document for us um as council people to

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help um the mayor and the staff and us

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make um short-term goals so that the

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general plan is a living document and

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that we are moving forward in in goals.

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and it's not a planning commission

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document. It's a city council document.

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a distinction between those two and why

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there's a difference. One's long-term,

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one's shortterm. Um, and so just as a

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clarification, I know the mayor um had

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was going to be asking um Daniel um from

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Sunrise and Kirsten from the community

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development committee to come and

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present that today. And I don't know if

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they're in the room or not. Um or if you

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reached out to them to make sure that

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they were going to talk about it from the committee standpoint.

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discussion of the proposed strategic

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on. Let me get all my handouts that are

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really small anyway, but

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I should have received that plan and the

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isn't your first time seeing it cuz it's

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really small, but I at least wanted you

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to have some eyes on it just so you have

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a little bit of an idea of the layout.

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the intention of this is to help support

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document. It's not necessarily even

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something that we have to have like

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public. So, I don't know that it

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necessarily even has to be like

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approved, but it's available for your

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use as the council and for the city. And

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if you don't like it, you can blame me.

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to to Daniel and and Ted and all the

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others who put all of the notes and

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comments in. So, um, as mentioned,

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seen this before. And so it's it's

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intended that at least yearly

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um the city recorder can work with all

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of those who have are listed as being

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responsible for moving forward some of

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the goals. Um can review the strategic

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plan and and have been keeping notes and

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progress and updating um and keeping

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this as a living updating record of

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we're moving toward our goals. If you

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place for that, then maybe this isn't

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going to be useful to the council. I

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don't know that. So, it's if it's

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useful, great. There is a one page um

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of the general plan um to include it,

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but there's an overview. And so, some

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cities will put like a website, a link

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right? um where it just says yes, the

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city has a strategic plan. This is kind

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of what it includes, but the strategic

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plan itself doesn't necessarily have to

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be a useful tool

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general plan and any further than that I

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microscopic,

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could filter um by what chapter it is or

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whatever. We tried to color code it also

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so that it would easily be able to see

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what's land use and what's not, right?

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don't like the way it prints, ideally,

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you're using this digitally on computer.

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out. Anybody that kind of knows a little

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bit of Excel could go in and fix that

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up, but we tried to make it a little bit

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the goals, this is who's responsible,

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and these are the steps they're going to

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in line with getting that general plan

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through. So I think ideally we're moving

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deliverables or not. As far as I'm on

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report and we were under by quite a bit.

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Kristen and the community development

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committee. They put in a lot of time and

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effort on the general plan and the

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strategic plan um in organizing and

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getting those two documents ready for

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us. Um when I first originally wrote

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that grant, um we put it in there to

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have a strategic plan. We've never had

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one before. And part of that is to

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distinguish between our long-term

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objectives and the the desires for our

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city and what we think our city should

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look like in growth. But also then to

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make sure we're doing it strategically

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so our short-term goals are met so that

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um and leaving that document flexible

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enough that if we need to pivot one way

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overall arching principles of the

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general plan, we can. So, it's not

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written in stone. It is a living

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document like she said. And um and I

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that we can allow not only ourselves

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depending on which area of the city that

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mayor as well and the staff for those

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guidelines and those boundaries.

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recognizing the flexibility to be in

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that um in that space and being able to

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show our community that quality of life

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is really important to us. But at to

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maintain our quality of life, we really

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do need to have strategic a strategic

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goal in place to keep it for what it is

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because a lot of uh a lot of in um

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things are creeping in on us from all

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around and we'll we might need to change

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some of our modeling but at the same

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time maintain what Woodland Hills is.

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And so I wanted to thank them for all

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the work that they did over the years in getting this done.

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» Definitely. Kirstston,

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>> I I just had a question for you if I

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could. Um I mean, you've put a lot of

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work into this over the years and I know

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that uh there there's been a lot of back

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and forth. Where it stands today, what's

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your take on it? So it sounds like you

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approve it.

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>> Which part? Well, I mean, are are there

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any I I haven't seen the final draft and

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so I'm kind of leaning on on you as kind

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of my gauge to do we need to hesitate on

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an approval right now or do you feel

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like it is where it's going to be, I

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guess, is kind of what I'm

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>> um I am all for

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lots of opinions and that coming

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together and sometimes that means we

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compromise and sometimes it means we

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stand our ground. Um, but I I feel

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comfortable moving forward. Honestly,

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this has been um a long project and I

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think it's kind of about time we move it

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forward.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um, so I am all for that. Um, a lot of

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the edits I know there was, you know,

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grammatical things and things like that,

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but overall I felt like the goals stayed

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pretty much the same. And the strategic

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plan, again, it doesn't add goals.

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There's no new goals in here. um it just

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builds steps to the ones that are

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already in the general plan. And so um I still feel comfortable with that. The

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I know like dark skies, you know, that's

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like a scary word around here, but um I

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felt like we got to a good place in what

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I think is realistically manageable for

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the our city.

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>> Um and just still making sure that we're

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listening to the residents, that they

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like their night skies. um but we didn't

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necessarily feel like we then had to

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align ourselves with an additional

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organization or rules. So I I'm okay

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with that knowing that we have um we're

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a smaller city and code enforcement

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things is a little bit harder at the

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size of our city. So I think we need to

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take those things into account. So

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overall um I feel okay about it. There

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was only one other section that if my

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understanding didn't continue in the new

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general plan and it was that provision

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where you could again I know the word

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density is not a good word around here

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but um you could potentially

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you know preserve green space and take

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what that density would have been and

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apply it elsewhere and so I just because

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it's not the general plan though doesn't

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mean that down the road that couldn't

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still potentially be an option.

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Um, but it was nice to have that in the

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general plan because you just don't know

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5 10 years down the road if the city

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council then will be aware that that's

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in state code and an option for a city

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to choose from. So, I'm all for options.

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Um, and so that's why we included that

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in there, but I'm not too set on, again,

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just because it's not in the general

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plan doesn't mean it's something you

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couldn't do in the future. Those are

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only I think the two things that were

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kind of the most discussed um points of

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the general plan, but like I said, it's

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time to move it forward.

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>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

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>> Well, thank you so much. I know that was

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massive. I appreciate the undertaking.

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We'll take a look on the executive side

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for the strategic implementation of of

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the strategic plan. Uh make edits where

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we feel would make sense for, you know,

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our trajectory. But this is a fabulous

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starting point. We appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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>> Y

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>> um we will also then look to if needed

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I'll work with Jody on this but to see

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you know what we need to dissolve that

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committee so you don't have to keep

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having meetings and posting minutes and

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stuff because I know you love that part.

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>> That sounds great to me. I've got a big

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project next year for works.

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>> Well, we appreciate it. Thank you so

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much. Is there anybody else with any

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questions? Brian?

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>> Yes. Um so couple of couple of things.

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Kristen, I hope that you feel we, you

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know, one of the things we we talked

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about earlier in this process was, you

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know, there was some some uh

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disagreements between your committee and

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um the planning commission. And I hope

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that you feel like we gave your I mean

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we made sure that we got your what your document and the changes

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from the the planning commission. So we

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got to see both. Um and and I wanted I

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wanted to make sure I hope that you felt

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we did that well enough. um that you

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that that we the council did get to see

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those your your original document and

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then the changes that were recommended

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um in our our reviews of it.

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>> Great. No, thank you for saying that and all all good for me. All good. All

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good here. And I appreciate that you all

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took that time because you didn't have

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to. And so I appreciate that you took

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into account the work of the different

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members of the committee over time and

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the thoughts and um intentions and

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desires that they had and the results we

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received from the the city residents and

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the survey results and um our public

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openhouse. all of that that went into

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the overall

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first draft that came out of the

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community development committee for the general plan. Um, but of course,

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like I said, we support that there's

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other opinions and that's what's the

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beautiful part of local government.

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>> I I have not seen the final draft. I

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haven't had time to go through it since

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it was sent to me. Um, but you know, if

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everything was put in that we talked

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about, um, I'm I'm happy with that. Um,

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just to be honest, I wasn't very nice

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with the strategic plan. Um, I don't

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know if you watched our our council

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sessions on that. Um,

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>> but I think that what you're talking

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about here and and putting a shortterm

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things together um is something that we

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can definitely I'm I'm willing to look

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at and and uh and I'm not sure how the

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rest of the council is, but I'm I'm I'm

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definitely willing to look at it and and dig into it more. I don't think I'm

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ready to to vote on a strategic plan

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tonight because one of the things I felt

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was is couldn't have a strategic plan

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without a general plan. Once we vote on

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the general plan, then we can go back

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and say, "Okay, does this align? Is this

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the things we want to focus on?" Now, I

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think there and and I don't know that is needed by your committee. you

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put that uh you know the baseline

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together for us um that we can work from

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and decide okay here's here's the things

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that we want to attack right now and and

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then put that in there and and like I'm definitely not ready for it tonight

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but I think it definitely is something

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that that could be um could be brought

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up and and we could look at and dig into

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more.

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>> I appreciate you guys put a lot of work

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into it. appreciate it.

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>> Just because something took a lot of

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work or time or people doesn't mean it's

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what you need. And so take it for what

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it is. And if you feel like it's not

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useful to the future of the city and

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it's planning and accountability and

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organization, like you're not going to

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hurt my feelings. So um but yes, we

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tried to take in a lot of opinions. Um

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and not not opinions isn't the right

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word. We tried to take in a lot of

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feedback and information and input from

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different members of city employees and

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the different um committee heads were

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like these are their words. I I didn't

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write out these steps. This is them

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saying this is what I'm going to do

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because I'm responsible for this step

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that's leading to this goal in the

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general plan. So that strategic plan was

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put together by a lot of people beyond

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the community development committee. So

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take take that forward.

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>> Thank you.

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>> So maybe just quickly on the strategic

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plan when when you wrote the RFP for

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that, the intent of the strategic plan

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was to really be an immediate action

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document. Nothing comprehensive because

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part of the challenge that a lot of

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communities have with general plans is

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other than the planning commissioner, no

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one else ever really digs into it. and maybe the planning commission, but

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no one really understands it. So, out of

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those general plans though come some goals. And so, the strategic plan

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was meant to be what's a short document

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>> that can get us to moving on these

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general plan goals. Something we can

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start tackling right away. It was really

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it's really meant to be a staff level

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document, right? not a city level

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document

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>> which is why it's an internal document

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because it's what can us as a staff be

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doing to start um the process of getting

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the general plan recommendations

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underway. So when we put this RFP

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together u that was the purpose of the

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strategic plan. So it's not meant to be

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a completely involved document. It's not

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meant to be really kind of a uh

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something that we're going to

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um use. Uh obviously it's available

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citywide, but it's meant for the staff.

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So I spent a bit of time with Daniel on

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the strategic plan thing talking about

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some of all the new problems and goals

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and stuff like that and what are some of

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our stuff we can start tackling right

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away. So that's kind of the purpose

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behind the strategic plan. So I guess

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what I would be uh just admonish to

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council is don't spend a lot of time

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trying to

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daughter up change

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not to say you don't have feedback could

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change the strategic plan whatever you

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feel a guidance for the city because

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but

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we want to start these things sooner

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rather than later and not spend another

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six months trying to dive through a

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strategic plan and get it so complic

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complicated that we would but that it

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just gets sheld

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if that makes sense. So that would be

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just my strategic

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>> that that totally makes sense but does

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that mean I mean to me that sounds like

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more of a you know administrative

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um and and on the executives you know

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the executive side of things it doesn't

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even look like doesn't even sound like

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something we need to adopt as a city

540
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council. um if we adopt the general plan

541
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,240
and this is the way that that the staff

542
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,159
team is going to attack their things um

543
00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:32,240
in it and even if even if there's some

544
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,280
involvement with with council members it

545
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,960
doesn't sound like it's something we

546
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,400
need to adopt and make official is that

547
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,200
is how is that normally done Ted

548
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,919
>> and I would would would I would leave

549
00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:47,440
that up to the council on a strategic

550
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,960
plan I've seen other communities do

551
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,080
these um for the same purpose. They're very or I should say they're

552
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,000
relatively new in the industry we'll

553
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480
call it now new in the industry is last

554
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,919
decade or so um for that purpose now

555
00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:04,080
give you an example uh the general plan

556
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,840
might say something like we want to

557
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,320
um have better roads and change the

558
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840
width of the roads right which is a very

559
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,039
general goal what the strategic plan

560
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,039
does it says okay and then to accomplish

561
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,440
that in yours here's what Ted needs to

562
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,520
do in years one and two. We need to

563
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,120
start figuring out what is our budget,

564
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,559
what does this take, what roads do we

565
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:28,480
need to do, what's our priority. Years

566
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,799
three to five, you know, okay, now we

567
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,320
can start tackling the design and

568
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,080
construction of these. And so that's the

569
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,679
idea of the strategic plan to take some

570
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:36,960
of these general plan things and

571
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,039
actually make them actionable for the

572
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:42,000
staff. Um things that we can start doing

573
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,440
to make these general plan ideas

574
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,200
actionable. So it's kind of the purpose

575
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,039
behind a strategic plan. Whether you

576
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,200
decide you need to adopt it or not is is

577
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600
up to you guys. But that's kind of the

578
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,120
to give you a just a basic idea of why

579
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,679
the strategic plan is there for the

580
00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:01,360
staff to start figuring out how we

581
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,880
tackle these very general plan ideas.

582
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,640
>> So I again I I it goes back to I don't

583
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760
think the legislative branch's job is to

584
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,559
run the executive branch's team. Um, and

585
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,640
I don't I I think that gets us into a

586
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,400
really

587
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,760
bad situation there. I think that this

588
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,679
in in my opinion, this isn't the

589
00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:27,279
council's job to tell the mayor's team

590
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,679
how to execute on what the council's the

591
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:33,279
goals council set as goals. Um, my

592
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:35,279
opinion, again, this is why we got why

593
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:39,760
we have a work session, but that's my two cents. Um, I'll let other

594
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,919
council members and the mayor put in

595
00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:43,679
theirs as well.

596
00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:45,840
Brian, I agree with you. Really, what I

597
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,640
would say we vote on tonight is this

598
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,039
cover sheet for the strategic plan,

599
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,360
right? That is what you guys would say.

600
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,120
Let's put that on the website as the

601
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:58,640
strategic plans cover sheet. This matrix

602
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,120
is something that would stay internal.

603
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,039
This would not be a public facing

604
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,840
document. This would be, you know, what

605
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,400
do I have the staff doing? What do they

606
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,000
feel that they need to do for us to

607
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840
execute on the general plan? So, the

608
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000
matrix is not up for a vote in my

609
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,159
opinion. I think we're looking to just

610
00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:18,720
really vote on whether we want to keep

611
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,360
or vote on this cover sheet or not.

612
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,919
>> And and I would just add,

613
00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:25,840
>> like Ted said, these strategic plans

614
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,440
look very different across cities. Some

615
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,760
look like this. Some are just the

616
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,840
overview, like they're very broad. And

617
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,559
so if you feel like the overview is

618
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:39,919
helpful, I think it's if especially if

619
00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:41,360
it's not in the general plan, maybe it's

620
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440
helpful for residents to know that the

621
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,360
city is trying to measure and keep to

622
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,720
their uh like you know KPIs or things

623
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,400
like that, but um it's an accountability

624
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,159
document internally, right? Um and so

625
00:26:56,159 --> 00:26:58,000
that would maybe be where the overview

626
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,320
serves a purpose, but again, it's this

627
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,640
isn't like a required thing. If it works

628
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,080
for the city, great. If it doesn't,

629
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,880
that's okay. Wonderful. Thank you.

630
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,909
Anything else for uh Kirsten,

631
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:15,440
Kevin, good again. Thank you. Fabulous

632
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,679
work.

633
00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:20,960
Okay, then let us move on to uh the

634
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,799
number six, discussion of proposed

635
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:24,720
ordinance vacating a portion of Eagle's

636
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,200
Nest.

637
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Okay. Do you want to talk about this at

638
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,159
all? Does anybody have any questions on

639
00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:35,590
this?

640
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,679
I mean, we've talked about it already.

641
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:38,159
>> We have.

642
00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:40,240
>> We might just want to Mayor, we might

643
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,000
want to just remind the citizens who are

644
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,840
maybe watching this later why um we are

645
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,159
doing this as part of the development

646
00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:52,559
agreement from the past. I mean, it's on

647
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,399
the agenda that way, but maybe just give

648
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:57,120
a little bit more of the history of of

649
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,440
that.

650
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,440
>> Okay, I'm okay with that. Do you want to

651
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,200
do that, Ted, or do you want to do that,

652
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,799
Bucky? Or do you want to do that? Wing,

653
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:12,159
>> I may maybe make just a comment. Um,

654
00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:15,440
there'll be a public hearing on this as

655
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,039
we did before.

656
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,039
>> No, we've already done a public hearing

657
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:20,320
>> on both of them.

658
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,480
>> This is just the one we're doing today.

659
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,320
The eagle list. This isn't

660
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,840
>> only eagle nest is what we're talking

661
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,279
about. We're not talking about the other

662
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,240
one. This isn't property. So, the public

663
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,840
hearing was just held prior to this

664
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,950
meeting.

665
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,360
So,

666
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,799
>> okay. Yes, there's this is the second

667
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,320
time we've been through

668
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960
>> this particular

669
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,159
issue and um I don't know if it would be

670
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:51,039
beneficial to put portion of the

671
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,200
development agreement out there just for

672
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,600
people to look to see again, not as a

673
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,919
public hearing but just as a as a

674
00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:01,279
document. I think it's available in our

675
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,039
previous minutes,

676
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,480
>> right?

677
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,320
>> I mean, we can put it in we can attach

678
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,760
it to these minutes, but this was

679
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,840
something that was agreed upon when the

680
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,320
council agreed to the um development

681
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200
agreement that was signed in 2022 in

682
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,159
exchange for this vacation of road.

683
00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:22,320
There was some improvements done uh on

684
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,679
some not finished city roads,

685
00:29:25,679 --> 00:29:28,320
particularly Bear Hollow, and some up

686
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,480
and down Summit Creek that were in

687
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,240
exchange for this as part of the

688
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,360
development agreement.

689
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,480
>> This is really just a technical exercise

690
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880
that we need to do to make sure we we

691
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,679
check all the statutory requirements to

692
00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:44,080
honor the agreement that we signed into

693
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,799
2022. And also our attorneys reviewed

694
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:47,760
all of this.

695
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,480
>> Our attorneys before it was agreed on

696
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,120
>> we well we've even had them review this

697
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,720
and the ordinance has gone to the

698
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,480
attorneys as well and they've reviewed

699
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,399
it and so it's

700
00:29:58,399 --> 00:29:59,840
>> I just think that's important too

701
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,080
because we want to make sure it's clear

702
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,840
>> and council member Pratt I think knocked

703
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,360
off about five years of his life

704
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,840
expectancy going through this and all

705
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240
sorts of fun stuff. So,

706
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,080
>> and that's why I just wanted to clarify

707
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,640
so anyone who may not have heard one of

708
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,399
our past city council meetings, we've

709
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:18,960
talked about this for years, but just to

710
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,919
let them know it is part of the

711
00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:25,120
agreement, legal agreement that we made

712
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,080
with Summit Creek and we're now it's

713
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
time to do it. So, I just wanted to make

714
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,480
sure that's clear for anyone who may not

715
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000
who may think we're doing this at the

716
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,679
last minute. We've been doing it for

717
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:37,120
years.

718
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,399
>> Of course. Thank you, Carrie. Okay, then

719
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:42,640
let us move to number seven, discussion

720
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,559
of

721
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:46,399
the proposed resolution amending the

722
00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:49,360
city fee schedule.

723
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Um, do you want to tackle this, Jody?

724
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,080
>> I'm happy to if you want.

725
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,480
>> If you would, that would be great.

726
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,120
>> Thank you.

727
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,880
>> Um, in your uh resolution, you will see

728
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,399
some highlights that are yellow. Um each

729
00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:08,159
one of those highlights where there's a

730
00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:10,640
potential change to the consolidated fee

731
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,679
schedule. Um

732
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:17,200
if you start on page three of it, uh

733
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,279
past due bills, it's gone from 3% to 5%

734
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,039
interest.

735
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,480
Um, and then we also include the inloo

736
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,960
water fee and that allows developers

737
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200
instead of bringing water shares to the

738
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,799
city, they can pay the city $5,200

739
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:46,080
uh for the 1.0 and 0.90 acre feet of reserve city reserve water.

740
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,840
>> Okay.

741
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,509
Um

742
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,760
on page four, uh we are changing we're

743
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,679
proposing to change the homebased

744
00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:02,799
business license from $25 to $50 a year.

745
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:07,679
Um 25 has been there since uh 2002 and

746
00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:12,480
24 years later it's probably time to uh

747
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640
increase that fee. It also allows us to

748
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,480
do a little bit more tracking, send out

749
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,960
reminders, and we're also looking to do

750
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,279
that on a um January 1 to December 31st

751
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,399
basis so that all permits would renew in

752
00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:30,399
January. Uh conditional use application

753
00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:33,039
license permits would also go from 150

754
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:36,399
to 200. Uh those require us that we

755
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:39,360
publish with a local newspaper any

756
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,240
conditional use application. publication

757
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640
costs have gone up. So that will

758
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,679
basically make us break even on those.

759
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:50,080
Um we are proposing a significant

760
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240
increase to our land use application

761
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,840
fees.

762
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Um when the uh new house bill passed and

763
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,039
we got rid of uh preliminary reviews and

764
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,039
we just went to a final subdivision

765
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,200
review. There's a lot more that goes

766
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,080
into those subdivision reviews. uh our

767
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,480
engineering costs to review those seem

768
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,559
to be a a bit more. And when we did a

769
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,080
um analysis of what we're paying out as

770
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,480
we tracked certain subdivisions, we seem

771
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,679
to not be recouping our costs. And so

772
00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:29,200
this is helping us in the future to pay

773
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,519
for what it's actually costing us to

774
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,640
appro approve a subdivision.

775
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,679
So those fees are there.

776
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:42,640
Um changes on page five again are uh

777
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,720
fees that are pretty much a pass

778
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,799
through. Uh annexation requests again

779
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:50,559
it's the publication. It's sending out

780
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,399
notices to everyone.

781
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:55,120
>> Um it's staff time, engineers time to

782
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,399
review things. So these are just kind of

783
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:02,159
after looking at what we've been um

784
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:05,039
charging and what it's costing, we're

785
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,679
kind of putting those back in line.

786
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,679
Um,

787
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,480
same again with page number six. There

788
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,440
is a change though to an ADU application

789
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,480
and that's a onetime fee of 750 which

790
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,599
covers up to four inspections. As we've

791
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,919
been tracking our building permits and

792
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:27,520
our inspection fees um seem to be

793
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,119
running about between an hour and a half

794
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,000
and two hours each inspection and each

795
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,960
inspection is $75. So when they go and

796
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,280
they spend 2 hours there, we're paying

797
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,720
for $150 and we're only recouping 75 of

798
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,119
it. So again, it's going to be one of

799
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:47,520
those passroughs. Um

800
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,079
on page seven, the sewer impact fee that

801
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,960
is a pass through to PAC that is

802
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,119
increasing from 7177 to 7351.

803
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,320
Again, that's not uh money the city

804
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,119
collects in our I guess you'd say

805
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:06,720
coffers. It's money that's passed

806
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,079
through to PAS. Um

807
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,800
we did propose a temporary occupancy

808
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,119
certificate that would allow someone

809
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,520
once all their safety issues are taken

810
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,760
care of to go ahead and occupy their

811
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,720
home. Um but there would still be some

812
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,960
zoning issues that maybe need to happen,

813
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,960
driveways that need to be finished,

814
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,800
things like that.

815
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,400
um

816
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,640
reinspection fees. Uh

817
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,760
we are going to uh specify in our

818
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,320
consolidated fee schedule how many

819
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,760
inspections are part of a home, part of

820
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,520
an ADU.

821
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,000
Um that clears up any problem with

822
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,800
people calling for partial inspections.

823
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,599
Uh in a sense, the permit pays for 18

824
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,240
home inspections. If you are going above

825
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,079
that 18, you're going to get build.

826
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,079
Again, it's trying to recoup our costs

827
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,320
so that residents aren't paying for

828
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,560
construction costs.

829
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,359
Um, do you guys have any questions?

830
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:12,560
I know we've been asked uh by a resident

831
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,800
on PA uh for exhibit A on page nine to

832
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,760
identify what the yellow, red, and blue

833
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,720
stars are. And I'll go ahead and put

834
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,280
that in so that you can see those. Uh,

835
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,079
red are homes that have already paid a

836
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,720
impact fee to the sewer reimbursement

837
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,880
fee of $3501.

838
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,200
Yellow are lots that potentially could

839
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,440
be developed and reimburse the city for

840
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,839
the $351

841
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:47,760
fee. and red are homes that were built

842
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,800
before the sewer line was put in that we

843
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,320
will not uh get reimbursed for. So this

844
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,920
was something that was put together by

845
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,760
our private previous public works

846
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,800
director in uh 2018 when we installed

847
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,599
the sewer line.

848
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,320
>> So they're all being served but have not

849
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,800
paid.

850
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,440
>> They can be served but they may not be

851
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,109
connected.

852
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,920
Well, they may be on septic.

853
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,480
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and and I'm just I'm

854
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200
just saying this out loud. There there

855
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,839
are laws that if there is a sewer within

856
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:27,520
a certain distance of the home that it

857
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,280
needs to to go that way,

858
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,320
>> within 300 ft and but that we can't

859
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,839
require if they've already put in a

860
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,760
subject tank. Now, if their septic tank

861
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,720
were to fail or require major

862
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,599
improvements, right, then we could

863
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,480
require them to do

864
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160
>> grandfathered thing if they were there

865
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,680
before the sewer.

866
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,920
>> Make Yeah, makes sense. And and I'm not

867
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,000
suggesting that we go that route. I'm

868
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,320
just saying that if somebody were to tie

869
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,480
in, do we have the ability to then

870
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,160
charge that impact fee at that point?

871
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,079
>> Yes. Okay. And we've had a couple that

872
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,800
have chosen um if they've had a problem

873
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,640
with their septic tank to actually

874
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,720
connect to the system and then they have

875
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,520
paid us the $351

876
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,640
um that was uh done in the impact fee

877
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,109
study that we had done in 2023

878
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:20,800
I think it was probably right around

879
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,680
there. Yeah.

880
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920
>> Um and so

881
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,079
>> so they wouldn't be subject to the

882
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,400
>> they would be subject to the 7,000 as

883
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,920
well from

884
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,800
>> for both. Okay. Okay.

885
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,920
>> Okay. Good. Good to know.

886
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680
>> Any other questions?

887
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,640
>> Couple of questions. Jody, hang on.

888
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,960
>> Um the 5% uh on the late fee, is that

889
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,320
capped by the state?

890
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,119
>> No, that's just what our treasurer

891
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,200
suggested.

892
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,910
>> Just seems low to me for late.

893
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,160
» We're friendly. too nice sometimes,

894
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,720
Brad. We can't hostile.

895
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,400
>> That's that I'm being hostile,

896
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:09,280
Hutchings. Um, on the sewer, when when

897
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,280
it's a pass through, can we word it like

898
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,839
we do the attorney fees that just

899
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:15,760
whatever PAC's charging us is what we're

900
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,119
going to charge so we don't have to keep

901
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,760
changing it every time Pac does.

902
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,440
>> We could.

903
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,720
>> I just wonder if that's a little bit

904
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,960
easier.

905
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,480
>> Um, and the six month head or Wayne

906
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,160
might know and Jody you might know as

907
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,320
well on the stop work um violation is

908
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,870
that capped by the state

909
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,480
» no

910
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,160
that seems low as well to me um if they

911
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,160
violate stop work um and I get that

912
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,280
subsequent are doubled but I still think

913
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,839
$500 is low for a stop work violation

914
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:00,480
Does that continue to double?

915
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,119
>> First instance 500, second instance a

916
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,359
th00and, third instance 2,000.

917
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:06,400
>> 500 each time.

918
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640
>> 500. So yeah,

919
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,240
>> I kind of like my version better than

920
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:11,280
yours. I like your version.

921
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,520
>> You're welcome to write it however you

922
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,040
want.

923
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,320
Um we I did look at other cities so that

924
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,560
we weren't totally out of line. Um,

925
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,359
and this seems to be what uh many other

926
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:27,119
cities are doing, but you guys are

927
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,599
welcome to write it however you'd like.

928
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:33,440
>> The state's guidelines when it comes to

929
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,440
uh the legalities of it generally say

930
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,520
you recoup your cost. That's what that's

931
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,040
kind of what you have to base your fee

932
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,320
at, right? So, we have to look at

933
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,599
recouping our cost. Um, so whatever that

934
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,079
stopwork actual cost dollar is is

935
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,079
generally the range you want to be in.

936
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:51,359
It's usually their guidelines from a

937
00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:55,200
legal aspect. Um I know a few times in

938
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520
my other half

939
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,839
before coming to work for the city there

940
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:02,160
were times where

941
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,599
that world we call them liquidated

942
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,280
damages and we would put a set amount

943
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,720
liquidated damages but if you ever went

944
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,880
to court just says you're only you can

945
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,640
collect what your your costs were

946
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,119
regardless of what the document said. So

947
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:14,640
it's generally guidelines what we look

948
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,319
at

949
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:18,720
>> and and an occurrence. I mean

950
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,720
>> in theory that could be two or three

951
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,839
occurrences in a single day if they're

952
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:28,160
>> going back and so yeah I mean

953
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,640
I I think it's reasonable. It's not like

954
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,079
it's a revenue generator for the city

955
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,680
>> and it's not like we just hand them out

956
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,480
all the time.

957
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:38,960
>> Yeah.

958
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,359
>> Right. I think um our

959
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:45,040
public works and code enforcement

960
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,160
officer try to work with the individual

961
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,720
first um and it's usually it's only

962
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,599
after you know I think we've handed out

963
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:59,359
maybe two in the last

964
00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:01,119
three or four years.

965
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:02,880
>> Yeah.

966
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Usually too, our ordinances refer to it

967
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,440
as a day, not as an occurrence. So if

968
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,119
there are five occurrences during a day,

969
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,800
it would be one one charge of $500 for

970
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,000
those if it if it were to multiply that

971
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,240
way. But ordinance reads per day.

972
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,510
So

973
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,079
» Brian,

974
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,000
that I just I wanted to have the

975
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,599
discussion.

976
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:32,800
>> Wonderful. Well, any other questions

977
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,920
from you?

978
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,160
No. Okay,

979
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,760
wonderful. Any from you guys?

980
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,280
No. Okay, Jerry, you good? Perfect.

981
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,119
Okay, thank you. I heard I saw your head

982
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,240
shaking. So, let us move to the

983
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,520
discussion of proposed ordinance

984
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,640
amending the 2026 fiscal year budget.

985
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,240
So, I want to go over a little bit what

986
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,079
we did here.

987
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,880
um to make sure that we did this right,

988
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,000
we actually called our uh city auditor

989
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
and he was able to kind of give us some

990
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,800
guidance on this as well. Um just for

991
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,599
you guys's update. Um Charlene currently

992
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,440
is going through all of her training to

993
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,200
be aware of our software and

994
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,760
understanding of that. So she's working

995
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,760
um to get familiar with all the

996
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,560
intricacies of our city. um she is

997
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,560
planning to come and join a city council

998
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,839
meeting here um in the next month or so.

999
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:30,079
Um and you guys will be able to ask her

1000
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,480
any questions. She first wanted to kind

1001
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,560
of be able to know what's going on so

1002
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,359
she could answer them first. Um just so

1003
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:39,520
you guys understand where Charlene is

1004
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,400
right now. Um what we did is we went

1005
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,280
through the general fund and we looked a

1006
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,200
lot at what is this percentage um of

1007
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,839
completion and we then looked to make

1008
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:54,400
sure that all of those percentages were

1009
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,720
in line. Now you will see there are

1010
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,800
subcategories within these primary

1011
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,839
headers. For example, in revenue there

1012
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,319
is a number of these that are way over

1013
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:07,200
budget. Okay. In the revenue side of

1014
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,880
this, we really don't care as much. And

1015
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,760
this is the words from our auditor. Um,

1016
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
if we're above percentage on revenue,

1017
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,599
that's always a good thing.

1018
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,040
>> I was going to say that's a good thing.

1019
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,560
>> Exactly. If you look at our expenditures

1020
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,079
though,

1021
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,200
um there will be a few categories uh

1022
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,880
that currently are um you know, like we

1023
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,480
have here public safety. Um we're

1024
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,790
currently at 100.43%.

1025
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Um that we will then need to appro or

1026
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,760
fix at our final um

1027
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400
opening of the fiscal year 2026 budget.

1028
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640
Okay. But everything else you can see

1029
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,119
that we're we're quite a bit under. Um

1030
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:56,800
we're looking pretty good on those

1031
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,920
things. Um, we've actually got a few

1032
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,160
excess funds in the administrative

1033
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,280
category this year, um, that we I

1034
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,200
reallocated up to it that I think we'll

1035
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,960
be able to pull a few of those projects

1036
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,880
that we were maybe thinking of doing in

1037
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,480
2027

1038
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960
um, over into this fiscal year, which

1039
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,040
will then, you know, help us get further

1040
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,560
down our list of things that need to be

1041
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,280
done, especially here on the building in

1042
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,920
2027. So that's what that why the

1043
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,119
expense general government um percentage

1044
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:30,880
is actually quite low. So we'll be

1045
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,760
working on that a little bit this month.

1046
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,760
But you guys have any questions for us

1047
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:43,270
there on these uh financials?

1048
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,440
» Steve got anything for us?

1049
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,640
>> Um no I I haven't reviewed it in depth

1050
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,119
but uh I mean it looks really good. just

1051
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:54,160
is is the cleanup and the catch up all

1052
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,760
going pretty well then and

1053
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,640
>> Yes. Yeah, we we have found a number of

1054
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,359
things that uh we've been able to kind

1055
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:02,800
of figure out what's going on. We've

1056
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,119
gotten those squared away. Um we pulled

1057
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:06,800
out a lot of the monies that we had

1058
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,400
transferred in here.

1059
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,280
>> Um we're actually making a deposit um

1060
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,880
back into our savings of um I'm not

1061
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640
seeing it here, Jody. What is it? 10 and

1062
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,800
something

1063
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,480
143,000 or something. If I remember

1064
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,599
correctly,

1065
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:25,510
>> uh, $154,850.

1066
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,920
» You just headed it back into savings, so

1067
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,359
things are actually looking pretty good.

1068
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:30,720
2026.

1069
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,800
>> Oh, I see it. 154.

1070
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,760
>> Perfect.

1071
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,839
>> Trying not to

1072
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:39,839
budget needs to be you need to adopt

1073
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:42,480
your amended budget before June 30th.

1074
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,640
And that's why Sant.

1075
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,520
>> Okay, perfect.

1076
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Um, then I will have

1077
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,359
a suggested uh a recommended motion when

1078
00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:55,040
we get to that point so we can get that

1079
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,200
last little clerical issue with that one

1080
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,960
budget.

1081
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,560
>> Okay.

1082
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Well, wonderful. Thank you. Um we will

1083
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,839
move then to the discussion and proposed

1084
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:07,760
contract with Larsson and company for

1085
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,640
the independent auditing service.

1086
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,000
So you guys will see in your packet um

1087
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,079
this is the contract that uh they have

1088
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,040
sent over to me. Um, if you guys approve

1089
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,359
it, this will um then lock us back in

1090
00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:27,920
for uh the next few years. Um, and you

1091
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,079
can see how the pricing shifts and

1092
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:35,760
changes um as we go throughout from 2026

1093
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,680
and on. Um, and this is for the next six

1094
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,280
years. In talking with Charlene, she

1095
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520
recommends with the transition for her

1096
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,119
position that continuing with the same

1097
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:53,040
auditing firm makes a lot of sense. Um,

1098
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,920
I have spent a decent amount of time um,

1099
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,920
looking at the other auditing firms,

1100
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960
asking other cities who are they using,

1101
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,760
asking um, other like our banker what

1102
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,599
he's heard about different auditing

1103
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:11,359
firms. and Larson really does

1104
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:14,400
uh get a very very high review. Um so

1105
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,839
things have gone really well there.

1106
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:17,440
Carrie,

1107
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,680
>> did you say this contract is a fiveyear

1108
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,079
or sevenyear?

1109
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,079
>> In between that sixy year.

1110
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,960
>> Oh, six years. Okay, thank you.

1111
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
>> Yep.

1112
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,079
>> So I believe is that am I speaking that

1113
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:33,200
truth? Yeah,

1114
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,880
>> because it says here we have prepared a

1115
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,720
preliminary time and expense budget for

1116
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:39,440
the next six years.

1117
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,160
>> Yes.

1118
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,760
>> Can I make a comment?

1119
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,680
>> I don't know.

1120
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,960
>> Thank you.

1121
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,640
>> I might make you wait till public

1122
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,079
comment. No, please.

1123
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:51,280
>> On on this um we we've had this auditor

1124
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,319
for at least probably 10 years. Jody

1125
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:58,079
would know. This the state recommends

1126
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:01,280
every five years we change auditors.

1127
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,119
It's that's and that's that's in a

1128
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:06,000
written document. I can understand Shin

1129
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
wanting to keep the same one this this

1130
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,119
year with the familiarity and everything

1131
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:14,559
and so forth, but I I I would suggest

1132
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:18,640
you you keep it open for after this year

1133
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,559
to see what some alternatives might be.

1134
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,640
Um,

1135
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,160
again,

1136
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,280
um, they're very familiar with with with

1137
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,240
our records and everything and and

1138
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,160
that's probably a plus for them as well

1139
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,000
as us. But, uh, there's a benefit to to

1140
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,480
changing too and seeing if there's some

1141
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640
things that got overlooked or need to

1142
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,000
have greater attention to them. And, um,

1143
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
I think we need to keep our options open

1144
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,359
in the future bes.

1145
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:52,640
So just a thought.

1146
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,559
>> Thank you.

1147
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,920
>> Yeah. Any questions on the audit company

1148
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,000
contract?

1149
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,720
>> Um

1150
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,160
>> yes.

1151
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,480
>> So did we get did we get a break for

1152
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:09,040
entering that six-year contract? Like a cost break? Is that why we're doing

1153
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,599
that? Or

1154
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,760
>> typically these contracts from what I'm

1155
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,359
learning are typically between three to

1156
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:21,200
five to eight years.

1157
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,520
And this one's just for six. Okay.

1158
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,400
>> And that's probably a very negotiable

1159
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,150
option.

1160
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,240
» Yeah, thank you. I'm just looking at

1161
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,390
previous years here sideways.

1162
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,599
Um it looks like we were 13 and 14,000.

1163
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,119
>> Yeah. So we're only going up a thousand.

1164
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:53,349
>> Yeah. for

1165
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:56,800
» I I do have a question, mayor. Um I

1166
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,440
mean, I think Wayne's comment um is

1167
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,160
correct that the state suggests the

1168
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,760
state auditors suggest that you change

1169
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,160
up every so many times. maybe only have

1170
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,240
them one or two contract cycles and then

1171
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:13,280
get someone new just to make sure that

1172
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,359
familiarity sometimes gets in there that

1173
00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:19,839
things may be overlooked just because it

1174
00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:23,119
is so familiar. Um, did we consider that

1175
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,760
at all or did we ask anybody else for a

1176
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,920
bid or we just feel good about Larsson?

1177
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,680
What was the rationale or process?

1178
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,559
>> I did not ask anybody else for a bid.

1179
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:40,400
This was just their their natural cycle

1180
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,800
of sending out the new bids because that

1181
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,800
our time frame is up with a lar company.

1182
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,800
um

1183
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,000
in my conversations with other cities on

1184
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,359
who they go or other um service

1185
00:51:55,359 --> 00:51:58,319
districts on who's doing their audits.

1186
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:00,400
Um and then also consulting with

1187
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,920
Charlene. Um

1188
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000
that those different points of

1189
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,280
information is what I am now deciding to

1190
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,640
recommend that we do continue with them

1191
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,839
for at least a year. Um, I think

1192
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,160
relooking at it would make sense and I

1193
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,880
can actually renegotiate this contract

1194
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,440
um, depending on the motion to which you

1195
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,839
guys make or don't make to make this a

1196
00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:31,119
one-year contract versus a six. And then

1197
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,319
we could send it out to RFP uh, next

1198
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:36,559
year, for example. Or we can just send

1199
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,359
it out to RFP now.

1200
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:41,920
So, Mayor, um I was looking that up

1201
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,680
because it actually sounds like a really

1202
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,480
good idea. Um Utah administrative code

1203
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,559
R123-5,

1204
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:51,200
cities must competitively procure

1205
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,880
accounting and auditing services at

1206
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,920
least every five years. Um you can

1207
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,000
select the same ones. They do kind of

1208
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,520
push towards you know getting thresh but

1209
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,720
we are required by by code to

1210
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,200
competitively bid this every five years.

1211
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,680
We probably have good reason uh we don't

1212
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,359
have to pick the cheapest one, but we

1213
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:15,680
probably have good reason to keep the

1214
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,240
same auditor at least for the next year

1215
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,839
like you've recommend or like you're

1216
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:22,960
recommending. Um but code does require

1217
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,040
that that we we do an RFP on.

1218
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,800
>> Do we know when the last time we did an

1219
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,670
RFP for auditor was? Jody,

1220
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,559
you want to

1221
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:35,119
>> I'm

1222
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,280
>> take a look at it when we continue here.

1223
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,440
Just interrupt once if you figure that

1224
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,160
out for us. I appreciate that, Brian.

1225
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Thank you.

1226
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,069
>> Yep.

1227
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:53,910
Any other thoughts or discussion?

1228
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,640
Okay.

1229
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,720
uh when if you find that out Jody.

1230
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:04,240
>> So it would have been in 2020

1231
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,880
one. I wrote one

1232
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,359
earlier this year and sent it to our

1233
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:14,000
prior financial director and um had to

1234
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,950
change

1235
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,240
but it was in 2020

1236
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:23,680
that we got the last one.

1237
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,920
>> So we are due for it. So, we do need to

1238
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,359
send the star then.

1239
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:29,200
>> We probably should. Yes.

1240
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,680
>> Okay. Then we will

1241
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,520
I would recommend then we table that

1242
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,760
decision for right now till we send it

1243
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,240
through that process since we're bound

1244
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,400
statutoily.

1245
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,480
Okay. Thank you, Brian. Thank you,

1246
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,520
Carrie. Thank you all.

1247
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,319
Um,

1248
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:50,400
number 10, discussion proposal ordinance

1249
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,270
amending city code 10-4-5E.

1250
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,960
Um,

1251
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,040
I can go over this unless you guys want

1252
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,359
to. Head, do you want to talk to this

1253
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:05,760
or? So, this is for our natural hazard

1254
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,880
study. Um there is I believe we have

1255
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,280
certain geographic regions that our code

1256
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,079
currently requires that they get not

1257
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:15,680
everybody but if you fall within a

1258
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,280
certain geographic region, right? Um and

1259
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,920
some of those homes may necessarily not

1260
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,920
actually need them. And so what this

1261
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,440
code amendment looks and will do is

1262
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,000
basically give the engineer um so

1263
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
actually point E here is a natural

1264
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,760
hazard study for homes located in uh

1265
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,640
identified hazard areas if required. So,

1266
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,559
we'd give the engineer of record there

1267
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,359
the ability to dis have a little bit of

1268
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:48,960
discretion um on whether they feel that

1269
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,119
site needs a hazard study instead of

1270
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:55,760
just imposing that requirement on the builder and the homeowner.

1271
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,520
>> That's our engineer that makes that

1272
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,960
determination, not the engineer

1273
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,680
director.

1274
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,640
>> Oh, thank you for that correction. So,

1275
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,079
that is Jones Deil currently. That would

1276
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,359
be Ted. Okay. So, our community

1277
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:12,240
development director.

1278
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,960
>> So, perfect.

1279
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,839
>> Um,

1280
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:20,079
>> uh, Sherry, if we could, if you can take

1281
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,480
note of that uh, in the public comment,

1282
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,319
we'd love to hear from that. Thank you.

1283
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:28,319
>> Um,

1284
00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:31,200
will will there be a delineation

1285
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,559
um on that or or is it more

1286
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,319
discretionary?

1287
00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:39,040
>> No. So we we some years ago had a

1288
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,799
natural hazard assessment map completed

1289
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:44,960
and the map basically identifies when we

1290
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,640
have certain hazards that we have to be

1291
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,359
aware of. Obviously in those areas we

1292
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:51,599
want them to be looking at certain

1293
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:56,000
elements of the hazard. So what this

1294
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,000
kind of allows us to do is one focus on

1295
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,240
those areas and two make sure we're

1296
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,599
getting the correct information so uh

1297
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:05,680
they're not just looking at anything out

1298
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,839
there. You know like if they're on a on

1299
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:10,640
a potentially identified or a

1300
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,960
potentially mapped fault line, we can

1301
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,240
have them go out and do a fault line

1302
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,079
study.

1303
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,559
Um if they're not in a fault line area,

1304
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:19,839
then there's really not a reason for

1305
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:22,799
them to have a fault line study. Um,

1306
00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:25,040
this is just a balance of making sure

1307
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,520
we're getting um keeping the the future

1308
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,119
homeowners as safely as we can uh by but

1309
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:36,000
requiring what we need and not be so

1310
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,559
general about it and not be just cart

1311
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:39,920
blank either.

1312
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:40,319
>> Yeah.

1313
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,680
>> Requiring $30,000 studies when really

1314
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,319
they're not in an area that's a concern

1315
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:48,079
of fault. You know what I mean?

1316
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,400
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean I I know when I

1317
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,160
built my home a few years ago, it was a

1318
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,720
requirement on my house and it

1319
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,880
>> it it it's painful, but I'm also glad

1320
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,520
that I had it and it forced the review

1321
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,640
of all the USGS documents and

1322
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,160
>> making sure that everything was there.

1323
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,079
>> It doesn't prohibit them from doing it

1324
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:07,680
if they choose to do it,

1325
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,880
>> right?

1326
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,880
>> There's still an area we've identified

1327
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,200
as a hazard certainly.

1328
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,040
It's just fabulous to stay outside these

1329
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,839
hazards areas, especially when you start

1330
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:19,599
building out down the agricultural

1331
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:20,880
lands.

1332
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,960
>> I mean, there is one little fault line

1333
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,349
that comes off there through

1334
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:29,280
the bottom, but the rest of that there's

1335
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160
no identified hazard. So, it's

1336
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,200
>> Yeah. Just needless to do it. Yeah.

1337
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,160
I guess I guess my primary

1338
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,079
question around that is if we if we

1339
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:41,920
change it, there's a way for people to

1340
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,440
know

1341
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,119
that

1342
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:46,799
you know there there's a way they can go

1343
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,319
look and see if their property is going

1344
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:51,119
to be subject to it before they are

1345
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:51,760
invested.

1346
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,760
>> Yeah, the hazard map is part of our

1347
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,559
building package. So, uh when they get

1348
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,040
in the building

1349
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,079
department website area, we have our

1350
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:03,760
building permit package and all that in

1351
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,760
there. The the map's actually in there

1352
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,839
so they can look at the map,

1353
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:11,359
>> see see what they're exposed to.

1354
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:14,000
Okay, cool. That's my only question

1355
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,960
about it.

1356
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,559
>> Brian, you went unmuted there for a

1357
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,400
second. Did you have something?

1358
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,640
>> Well, I was just wondering about the map

1359
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,520
and and we have identified everything in

1360
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,640
the map needs to have a hazard study.

1361
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,470
Correct.

1362
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,119
» Well, so the way this code would read is

1363
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:34,880
we would it's up to the engineer to

1364
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,960
require that, but the answer is yes. if

1365
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,319
it's on the map, we're going to request

1366
00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:42,319
that they get a hazard state specific to

1367
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:43,520
what that hazard might be because

1368
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,680
different areas are different hazards.

1369
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,440
Um, so we want to work with them to

1370
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,599
identify what that specific hazard is.

1371
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:52,000
Make sure they're doing the right study.

1372
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,680
Obviously, if they're in a hazard zone,

1373
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,040
we're going to have them do a study, but

1374
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,599
if they're, for example, some of debris,

1375
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:01,359
you know, zone, hazard zone, they may

1376
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:02,880
not be close to a fault line. So, there

1377
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,680
no reason to do a fault line study when

1378
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,119
flood study or something like that. You

1379
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,119
know what I mean? So, we want the the

1380
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,760
flexibility to make sure we're getting

1381
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,440
the right information in the right

1382
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,960
areas. Um, and not just have them kind

1383
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,720
of say, "Oh, we need a hazard study."

1384
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,280
And they submit something that really

1385
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,960
doesn't do us any good. Um, it's a way

1386
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,640
for us to work directly with them and

1387
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,440
make sure we're getting the right

1388
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,960
information. Yes. If it's in identified

1389
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,839
hazard area, we will work with that

1390
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:39,670
builder identify.

1391
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,000
» Okay. I just see that it says if

1392
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,400
required. That's our change and and it

1393
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,359
doesn't specify a lot.

1394
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:48,880
>> And that's because there are some areas

1395
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,920
where they're non-hazard zones and and

1396
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,760
it may not be required.

1397
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,280
>> Okay. But is there somewhere that it

1398
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,599
states that that you're making this

1399
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,559
determination or

1400
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,000
>> Yes.

1401
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,799
>> Okay.

1402
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:06,799
>> Think right inside. Did anybody read

1403
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:10,000
there say you know the engineer, city

1404
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:10,880
engineer?

1405
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,760
>> No.

1406
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,119
that's in another part of the

1407
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:13,839
ordinance.

1408
01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:16,480
>> Oh yeah. Continue. So the entirety of

1409
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,920
the ordinance, if you read the entirety,

1410
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,829
everything doesn't say

1411
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:24,000
» it probably does. This just we're only

1412
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,240
adding the discretion element

1413
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,960
>> to this line. It's basically making the

1414
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,040
requirement of a hazard study

1415
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,559
discretionary

1416
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:34,799
per the authority of the city engineer

1417
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:37,040
which would then come into a different

1418
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,480
another section of that chapter would

1419
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,119
delineates who this just gives

1420
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:44,799
discretion on the hazard study

1421
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:46,559
>> 101 right

1422
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,520
>> correct I believe so

1423
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,720
no 104 through five

1424
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,710
>> um

1425
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,119
so 1045

1426
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:04,549
if you

1427
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,119
it's not in 1045

1428
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,040
if that's where you think it was.

1429
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,240
>> We have a whole section on hazardous

1430
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,920
study and

1431
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,480
it addresses it there. This is just

1432
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,319
another another 1045 is is another

1433
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:27,839
reference to having a study done. And we

1434
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:31,760
didn't the council has already plat pass

1435
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,079
the change

1436
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,880
the the overall broad change to

1437
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,920
requiring it. This is just another place

1438
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:46,549
in our ordinance that addresses it.

1439
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:49,040
So this is this is basically making it

1440
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,640
consistent with the entirety of the or

1441
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,599
is what we're doing.

1442
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:52,079
>> Yes.

1443
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:53,760
>> This is not changing what hasn't already

1444
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,119
been done. It's just making consistent

1445
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,710
with the other change.

1446
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,230
» Okay.

1447
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,480
» Does that answer that for you, Brian?

1448
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,079
>> Thank you. Thank you. I I appreciate

1449
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:07,839
that. I thought that we'd had it in

1450
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:12,720
there before with the the men. Um I just

1451
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,359
wanted to make sure that

1452
01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:17,520
somebody just couldn't willy-nilly say,

1453
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,280
"Oh, you're we're going to require you

1454
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,960
to do it." You know, that we we needed

1455
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,319
some kind of backing. We needed some

1456
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:25,119
professionalism on that.

1457
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:27,839
>> Yes. Okay. Thank you. Okay. We are going

1458
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:30,960
to move to discussion point 11.

1459
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,200
discussion of America 250 celebration

1460
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,799
scheduled for July 5th, 2026.

1461
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:39,520
If if Council Member Lunt can not die on

1462
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,079
us,

1463
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:42,240
>> if she can talk.

1464
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,359
Um, so I I wanted to give a little bit

1465
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:47,039
more information, I think, on America

1466
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,520
250, just to make it clear. Um, this is

1467
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,000
a national thing that's going on all

1468
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,880
over the nation and um there's a lot of

1469
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,480
things going on in our state. There's

1470
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,240
activities that are actually starting on

1471
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,400
June 27th

1472
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,160
and there's different kinds of things

1473
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,240
going through um July 5th, but July 5th

1474
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,640
what they uh wanted nationally, they're

1475
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,359
calling it America's potluck dinner. And

1476
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:14,240
so we decided to participate in that.

1477
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,480
So, we're doing a potluck dinner and

1478
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,960
it's a Sunday, July 5th, and we'll be at

1479
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,000
the city park and um we are going to

1480
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,720
have a band that is a very, it's not

1481
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,200
rock and roll. It's just a very like

1482
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,680
oldies, you know, feel-good kind of

1483
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,079
music. Um we're going to have a

1484
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:35,839
singalong in the middle of that. So

1485
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:38,960
they'll do they'll do like a 45minut set

1486
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,680
and then they'll take a break and then

1487
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,520
um we're going to sing some patriotic

1488
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,760
music. So we've got somebody else that

1489
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,359
will come in, not the band, somebody

1490
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:49,839
else has volunteered to come and do the

1491
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:52,880
sing along with us and then then the the

1492
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,280
group will um play some more. Um we have

1493
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,880
a signup genius that we just

1494
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,520
um loaded. I just put it in an hour ago

1495
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,359
and I've already got four people signed

1496
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:07,680
up. So, that's amazing.

1497
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,680
It's on our Facebook page, the official

1498
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,640
page, and also on the community page.

1499
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,440
And um we would recommend that people go

1500
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,720
in there and sign up for items that they

1501
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,359
want to donate or help with. We're

1502
01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:22,799
hoping that everybody, you know, you're

1503
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:24,079
going to bring your whole family, so

1504
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:25,680
we're hoping that you'll bring a big

1505
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,319
side dish, at least enough to feed your

1506
01:05:28,319 --> 01:05:29,839
family and a little bit more. And then

1507
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:31,599
if everybody shares, then hopefully

1508
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:33,520
there's a lot of food, a lot of good

1509
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,960
food um to share with each other. But we

1510
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,720
have categories. So we have one for

1511
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,359
volunteer volunteers. So hoping we can

1512
01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:42,559
get some people that'll just kind of

1513
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:45,520
help clean up, set up, whatever. And

1514
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,720
then for sweet salads, savory salads,

1515
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,880
chips and dips, fruit bowls or fruit

1516
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,839
platters or veggie platters or desserts.

1517
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:55,760
And then there's another other like if

1518
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:56,799
there's something else you want to

1519
01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:58,319
bring. I imagine we'll get a lot of

1520
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:00,559
watermelon. That's okay. I might be

1521
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:04,160
bringing a watermelon myself. Um, but

1522
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,160
we're excited for that. It should be a

1523
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,000
lot of fun.

1524
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,559
We're not spending any money. We're

1525
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:13,119
trying to keep it pretty lowkey. Um,

1526
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:15,760
even we're not going to rent tables and

1527
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,599
chairs. We'll have tables and chairs and

1528
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:20,480
the pavilion for our elderly citizens.

1529
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,839
And I think I'm going to make a little

1530
01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:25,119
sign, maybe like a reserved

1531
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:26,960
kind of sign for those tables so that

1532
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,880
people don't fill in on those tables.

1533
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,079
But we're really trying to get it out

1534
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:31,280
there that, you know, you need to bring

1535
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,839
your chairs or camp chairs. And if you

1536
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:36,319
want to bring a shade, bring a shade and

1537
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:37,760
set up a shade on the lawn somewhere

1538
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,920
with your chairs. And um it's just

1539
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,599
supposed to be, you know, real picnic

1540
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:44,799
style. So um we're having homemade root

1541
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:48,960
beer. All of the all of the ingredients

1542
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,200
for that have been ordered and reserved,

1543
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,839
so we're good there. So, yeah, I think

1544
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:55,200
we're good. I don't know. Anything else

1545
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,760
you want to add? The money is coming

1546
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,400
from the county to pay for it. So, it's

1547
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,640
not being paid by tax dollars at all.

1548
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,480
So,

1549
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,680
>> not from our budget.

1550
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,760
>> That's not true.

1551
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,240
>> Yes. Not from ours. And so it's great

1552
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,039
because we have a little budget that of

1553
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:14,720
funds that were given to us for the

1554
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,480
celebration and we're sticking to that

1555
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,160
budget.

1556
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,640
>> Carrie,

1557
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,039
>> yes. I just wanted to reiterate too that

1558
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:27,359
it's a national um event um for the

1559
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:28,880
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day

1560
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,520
Saints. They've asked everyone to fast

1561
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,640
for religious freedom. and actually

1562
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,680
started in Utah to have this potluck

1563
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,319
break the fast afterwards.

1564
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:44,480
Um, and it has since then gone national

1565
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,960
and lots of different um, religious

1566
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,559
organizations will be fasting and then

1567
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:53,200
having a potluck afterwards as well.

1568
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,599
Some are doing it within that church

1569
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:58,000
community, others are doing it within

1570
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,280
um, neighborhood communities or citywide

1571
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,520
organizations. our city is small enough

1572
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,400
that we do feel like a a as little small

1573
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,480
family and so I think it's very

1574
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,559
appropriate that we have this at the

1575
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:12,720
city park coming together as a

1576
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,960
community. We have very few community

1577
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,080
experiences like this and yet it's uh it

1578
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,279
showcases to our military who have

1579
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,839
served and sacrificed a lot that our

1580
01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:26,640
religious freedoms make mean a lot to

1581
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,920
us. It showcases to our youth um that

1582
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,560
this is something that we hold dear to

1583
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,120
us and um I'm really grateful that our

1584
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,669
city is participating.

1585
01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:43,920
» Thank you, Carrie. Thank you, Janet. Um

1586
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,839
I'm really excited about this. I think

1587
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:48,880
it'll be very, very enjoyable. We hope

1588
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,640
everybody will come and attend. Um, I

1589
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,239
think it's important for us to celebrate

1590
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:57,279
the birth of our great nation. Um, I

1591
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,359
think it's important to celebrate those

1592
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,600
that have laid down their lives, for us

1593
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,799
to have these freedoms. Um, and I think

1594
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:06,400
it'll be a great opportunity for us to

1595
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,239
be able to spend some great quality time

1596
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:09,839
together, get to know each other a

1597
01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:12,719
little bit better. Um, I think it'll

1598
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:13,920
just be a lot of fun. So, I hope

1599
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,400
everybody will come. And I've talked

1600
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,600
about this before, but um in PAC all

1601
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,359
summer long on Sunday nights, they have

1602
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:24,000
a community band. And the community

1603
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,440
band, they practice all the time and

1604
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,359
then they need somewhere to perform. So

1605
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,759
they perform in the city park almost

1606
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:31,679
every Sunday night in the summertime.

1607
01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:33,279
And families come and they bring their

1608
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,239
chairs and they hang out. Now in Mason

1609
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:37,920
Park, they have a lot more big tall

1610
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,080
shade trees. So it's really shady and

1611
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,719
nice. So, we don't have as many big tall

1612
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:44,719
shade trees, but like I say, if people

1613
01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:46,239
will bring their canopies and their

1614
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:48,640
chairs, um, we can make, you know, and

1615
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,239
then invite neighbors that don't have

1616
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:52,239
canopies to come sit under ours, we can

1617
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:54,480
share and join together. I think we can

1618
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,239
have that really good community feel.

1619
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,880
And that's that's really what uh, you

1620
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,719
know, the day of rest is about, I think,

1621
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:02,560
is is

1622
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,320
looking after our neighbors and and

1623
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,920
spending some time together. So, I think

1624
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,000
it will be good.

1625
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,199
>> Thank you.

1626
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:11,840
I'd like to suggest that the council and

1627
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,719
mayor consider maybe a one-page

1628
01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:18,640
patriarchal patriarch Yeah.

1629
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,480
>> Yeah. message to the to the to to those

1630
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:26,159
who attend in the city. Um, we've had

1631
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:29,520
some nice comments made in newsletters,

1632
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,600
something along that line that could be

1633
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,199
hand out, people could take with them

1634
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:37,199
and uh give some reflection too for for

1635
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:39,280
that for this time period,

1636
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,440
>> like our uh what it what being an

1637
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:43,440
American means to me. Some of those

1638
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:44,480
>> Yes.

1639
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:46,560
>> Yeah. Some of those were so good and I

1640
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,560
need to we need to do some more. I

1641
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,400
need to get some more. I guess the other

1642
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,640
thing we could do um is um pass a

1643
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,080
resolution as a city council that just

1644
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,920
acknowledges the 250th anniversary of

1645
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,800
the founding of our country and just

1646
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,040
have that as part of the our next

1647
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,880
council meeting. It's a suggestion.

1648
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,960
>> I believe we actually already did that.

1649
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,080
So Oh,

1650
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:21,600
>> we did that. When was that Jody? May,

1651
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,320
April.

1652
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,120
>> Sheesh.

1653
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,520
>> It was in a previous month to this one

1654
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,960
that we passed said resol.

1655
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,280
>> I guess I forgot it. I guess I must have

1656
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,640
forgotten it.

1657
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,120
>> Sorry.

1658
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,480
>> We might not have been there.

1659
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:36,080
>> You might have been absent on that one,

1660
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,640
but we did. So, that was a great idea.

1661
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,239
So great that we've already accomplished

1662
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:42,880
that. I like those.

1663
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:43,360
>> Great.

1664
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,199
>> Okay. Thank you all. Um, number 12, May

1665
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,440
2026, financials, the check

1666
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:51,920
dispersements. Any questions there from

1667
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:57,669
the council?

1668
01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:00,239
Okay, then we'll move to number 13,

1669
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,239
update on city grants. Ted, do you have

1670
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:07,590
anything on that?

1671
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,520
» Uh, no.

1672
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,640
Works moving forward. So, um,

1673
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,520
>> what's our time frame on that?

1674
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,040
um ASAP. That's what I gave the uh

1675
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,159
that's what I gave the engineers. So,

1676
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:23,440
you actually they'll actually be out

1677
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:26,080
surveying it tomorrow.

1678
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,560
So, we'll start the process of getting

1679
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,640
the survey done for the area and then

1680
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,159
they'll start the design. Design's going

1681
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:35,679
to take too long and then we'll figure

1682
01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:36,719
out where to go from there.

1683
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:38,640
>> Um our Woodland Hills Days committee was

1684
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,120
just wondering for Woodland Hills Days

1685
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,560
what phase those would be at. Will we be

1686
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,000
planning a pickle ball tournament as

1687
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,000
part of Woodland Hills days?

1688
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,760
>> Likely not because it just just

1689
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,000
a bidding process itself takes almost a

1690
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,640
month. So even if we had the design done

1691
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,280
in a month,

1692
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,719
probably won't be starting construction

1693
01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:02,719
till sometime around end of August 1st

1694
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:04,080
September.

1695
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,520
>> So then they were hoping that maybe we'd

1696
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,199
have cement pads and nothing else and we

1697
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:09,040
could use the cement pads for Woodland

1698
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,320
Hills days for the band or something.

1699
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,000
>> Could be. Yeah, we'll see how fast we

1700
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,199
can this might be doing it this fall,

1701
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:20,239
but it's all going to depend on

1702
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:23,280
scheduling of contractors and getting

1703
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,360
the design documents done.

1704
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,800
>> Yes, there's a lot of variables. I

1705
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,590
understand. I just wondered if you have

1706
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,470
» we may

1707
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:38,159
then we'll move to you for departmental

1708
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:38,880
reports.

1709
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,520
>> Do do you clarify real quick on that? Um

1710
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,440
so we were talking at the last meeting

1711
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:47,199
about um just public support on that

1712
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,199
whether we can get some sweat equity

1713
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:54,640
from the city um like kind whatever work

1714
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,280
so matching the grant a little bit. I've

1715
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,000
also reached out to a couple of brick

1716
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:06,320
and paver suppliers so I can start to I don't have any official costs yet, but

1717
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,080
that way we can do some sort of a

1718
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,840
presentation to the public if anybody

1719
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,920
wants to put their name on the block and

1720
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,080
we can figure out a program there if

1721
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,080
that's of interest cuz

1722
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,840
>> you have till after July 5th and then

1723
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:18,800
we're going to start promoting

1724
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,840
>> and then it's over with. Okay.

1725
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:20,719
>> No, no. Then we're going to start

1726
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:22,400
promoting the the blocks for

1727
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,520
>> Okay, sweet.

1728
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,600
>> Do America 250 right now and then

1729
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:26,960
>> and then we'll hit that. Yeah. So,

1730
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,560
>> so you got a minute to figure it out,

1731
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,000
like a week.

1732
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,520
>> Yeah. So, there's there's even a couple

1733
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,920
things just to to add on to that real

1734
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,120
quick. Um,

1735
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,400
>> there is a connector piece. So, the

1736
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,960
pickle ball court is is there's a trail

1737
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,280
segment

1738
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,080
that runs uh north and south that

1739
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,840
connects kind of the one trail that

1740
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,199
comes

1741
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:50,000
>> around the pickle ball. Of course, going

1742
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,920
to take out that little piece of trail

1743
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,520
where it's plan to go. But the walkway

1744
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,120
along the what will be the east side of

1745
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,560
the pickle ball court will connect those

1746
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,880
two trails back again with some paths

1747
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,159
around either side. That's kind of where

1748
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:04,400
we're planning it now. So that walkway

1749
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,280
could be a PA walkway. Also some bench

1750
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:08,880
donations. Uh we're going to have some

1751
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,400
spots for a couple benches but not

1752
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,960
really included in the cost of it. So

1753
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,320
there's some bench don a couple bench

1754
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,199
donations.

1755
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,000
>> Oh, awesome.

1756
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,679
>> Um something like that. We could stick

1757
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:19,440
those there and it'll be close enough to

1758
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,280
the pavilion. People could wait in the

1759
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,719
pavilion too if they're waiting for a

1760
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:23,679
quarter or something like that in the

1761
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:25,440
shade.

1762
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:25,920
>> Okay.

1763
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,320
>> But once we get a um survey done, we'll

1764
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,920
come back with a concept plan and we'll

1765
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,120
kind of show you what that looks like

1766
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,199
and get some feedback from parks and

1767
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:38,320
wreck and since

1768
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,239
this is uh the parks and wrecks

1769
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:45,440
>> baby Yeah, it's

1770
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:48,960
>> it's been Yeah. Five years, six years.

1771
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,560
They wanted

1772
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:56,159
>> It was our uh number one voted item in

1773
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,320
the community that they wanted to see at

1774
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,880
the park was a pickle ball court. So,

1775
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,520
trying to bring parks and reccks doing a

1776
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,040
good job bringing the community what

1777
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,159
they've asked for.

1778
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:07,679
>> Is there going to be a pool like Summit

1779
01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:08,719
Creek?

1780
01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:10,480
>> Yeah.

1781
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,520
Next phase. Phase two. It's on the list.

1782
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,880
We're just way down the list.

1783
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,199
>> So, Ted, that helps. Um, I will lean

1784
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,600
more toward pavers than because I wasn't

1785
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,440
sure if we're going to do sort of like a

1786
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:26,159
brick wall or something retaining, but

1787
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:28,560
I'll I'll focus more on ground pavers

1788
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:29,040
then.

1789
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,880
>> Yeah. I don't I don't I don't think

1790
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,560
we'll need retaining cuz that spot we're

1791
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,640
looking at is fairly flat.

1792
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,760
>> So, are you thinking like

1793
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:36,320
>> back in

1794
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,920
>> pavers like cement in the middle and

1795
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,400
pavers on the sides of each

1796
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:40,880
>> um

1797
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,000
>> names? Is that where

1798
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:42,960
>> it looks sharp?

1799
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,320
>> No. So, let me draw this imaginary

1800
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,880
because I'm a whiteboard guy. Pickle

1801
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,120
ball court is going to sit like this,

1802
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,880
right? And this up is north. Always

1803
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:53,520
north, though.

1804
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:53,840
>> Yep.

1805
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,679
>> Sits like this, right? And pavilion sits

1806
01:16:55,679 --> 01:16:57,280
over here. And you've got those two

1807
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,360
existing pathways. And the one that

1808
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,480
connects them, we're going to wipe out

1809
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:01,840
the one that connects them. Putting this

1810
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,679
pickle ball court in. But between there,

1811
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:05,679
we'll put like a a walkway with some

1812
01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:07,520
benches on it so you can walk from trail

1813
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:08,719
to trail.

1814
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:10,320
>> That would be a paver. And then we'll

1815
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,679
have it come halfway around the

1816
01:17:11,679 --> 01:17:14,000
pickleball court to two gates is what

1817
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,120
we're planning now where you can get in

1818
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,800
and out of the pickleball court. So you

1819
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,679
have walkway halfway halfway along this

1820
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:21,840
side. Nothing along this side. And then

1821
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,600
you'll be able to access the pickleball

1822
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,040
courts from the center.

1823
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,640
>> So if you had to guess how many pavers

1824
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,960
we could sell like if it went crazy.

1825
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,239
>> We will not sell more than we need.

1826
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:35,440
>> Okay.

1827
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:38,000
>> Yeah. It would be sad if we only sold

1828
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:38,800
like

1829
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,520
>> three.

1830
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,000
>> Well, yeah. I I've got a strategy around

1831
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,920
that, too. So, we'll talk about that

1832
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,080
once I've got kind of the whole cost

1833
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,440
matrix put together. But

1834
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:49,920
>> Awesome. And the other uh thing that

1835
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,880
we're committed to doing as our inind

1836
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,880
work for the grant is the grading and

1837
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,640
sprinkler system relocation. And so,

1838
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,920
that's something the city can work on.

1839
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,159
grading. We we've we've got a couple

1840
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:04,000
excavators in the city uh that we've

1841
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,440
talked to that are willing to help us

1842
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:07,920
out. Um

1843
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:08,320
>> Okay.

1844
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,640
>> And then beyond that, it's really

1845
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,960
uh trail. We've also got a trail planned

1846
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,800
from

1847
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,719
the north side of the pavilion to come

1848
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,480
from the parking area, what will be an

1849
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:22,640
ADA trail that will come from the

1850
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,239
parking area over to the pickleball

1851
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:28,000
court bench area. So because ADA access

1852
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,199
is is critical for that. So so that

1853
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:32,960
trail is also planned as part of the

1854
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,520
project

1855
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,600
>> and the ADA thing has also been a big

1856
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,400
focus for um parks and wreck.

1857
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,400
>> Well will will that have a branch off

1858
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,239
that goes to the pavilion as well. So

1859
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:43,760
>> yeah I think so. We hadn't really talked

1860
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,440
a lot about that but I it's running

1861
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:46,800
right next to the pavilion so it makes

1862
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,520
sense to have something that you could

1863
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,800
access to the pavilion.

1864
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,199
>> I think that would be so okay. So,

1865
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:55,360
community help, uh, great. Obviously,

1866
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:56,560
equipment, we've got some people doing

1867
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,280
that. Sprinkler help. Um, Toby's great,

1868
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,719
but anything he can get with with

1869
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:01,920
community members that are familiar with

1870
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,040
sprinkler systems because we're going to

1871
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,199
have to relocate our sprinkler system.

1872
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:07,600
>> I'll just volunteer my husband.

1873
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,400
>> Cuz he he kind of fixed it at the park.

1874
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,400
>> And beyond that, it's concrete and

1875
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,800
coating and some fencing and

1876
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,239
>> Yeah.

1877
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:18,080
I mean, it might be kind of fun.

1878
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,760
And I know it kind of makes it a mess

1879
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,760
logistically because as a contractor I'd

1880
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,640
be like, "No, we won't do this." But

1881
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,600
just just saying, "Hey, Saturday we're

1882
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,239
going to have a community sprinkler

1883
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:32,560
laying party or irrigation party or

1884
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:33,199
something." You know,

1885
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:34,480
>> there's so many good people in the

1886
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:36,640
community that love to chip in and help

1887
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,000
with that stuff. So

1888
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,600
>> cuz, you know, if you get kids out and

1889
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,520
all that other stuff, it makes it the

1890
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,120
whole project a little more meaningful

1891
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,960
and lasting. So,

1892
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,239
>> and hopefully this clears up kind of

1893
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,800
that messy drainage area too. That's

1894
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,719
>> Yeah, that is that spot is a problem.

1895
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:52,640
So, that'll be good.

1896
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,880
>> Hey, Ted. Um, any way you could have

1897
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,760
your contractor when they're or before

1898
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,400
they come out to start the road work

1899
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,040
just to give us a an estimate on the uh

1900
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,840
little parking area there or kind of ADA

1901
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,080
parking um just to see if we could tag

1902
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,280
into that and save any kind of money um

1903
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,199
for that parking area would be kind of

1904
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:17,840
nice.

1905
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:18,960
>> And if we can get the

1906
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,199
>> Well, you've uh you read my mind, Brian.

1907
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:24,159
We're actually having a part sliding

1908
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:26,159
into public works report. We're having

1909
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,560
our kickoff meeting for tomorrow for our

1910
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,320
paving project tomorrow with the

1911
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,280
contractor. And one of the things that

1912
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,880
uh we had talked about in the grant for

1913
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,480
the pickle ball court was we would look

1914
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:37,760
at seeing if we can get that parking

1915
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,080
area paved. So, I'm going to talk to the

1916
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,600
contractor tomorrow and just have them

1917
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,600
look at that, see what an estimate might

1918
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,159
be because if we can come under on some

1919
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:48,800
of our other work possibly

1920
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,600
um or at least not go too far over.

1921
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,280
We've got a little extra money that in

1922
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,960
our road budget, you know, that we can

1923
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,520
probably get some parking lot paving

1924
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,080
done there, so it gives a better ADA

1925
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,560
access to the park.

1926
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,760
>> Thank you. I just thought it would be

1927
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:04,880
worth it.

1928
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,640
>> Make it easier for the teenagers to go

1929
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,840
park down there, too. They

1930
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,679
even tore up. They're moving to the park

1931
01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:15,120
and are Sherry's house and

1932
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,560
>> great.

1933
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,520
>> Yeah.

1934
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,040
>> Departmental updates.

1935
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,080
>> Uh public works. I think we we've uh

1936
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,040
said we're kicking off the the

1937
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,600
having the pre-construction meeting for

1938
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,080
the paving project tomorrow is tomorrow.

1939
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,199
Um and then also maybe just to make you

1940
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:38,719
guys aware of something else that is

1941
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:40,640
coming. I just got the notice on. We've

1942
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:41,920
known about for a little while but got

1943
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,640
the official notice. So the state um

1944
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,640
division of drinking water runs under

1945
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,040
the department of environmental quality.

1946
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,719
Um, with the cut back on federal grant

1947
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:56,560
monies available, which is what helps

1948
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,280
fund the division of drinking water,

1949
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,199
they're now going to start assessing a

1950
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:03,679
fee to all public water systems. The

1951
01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:11,430
state is so we will get a sust.

1952
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:13,600
So, the base fee and it's not huge. I

1953
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,560
mean, the base fee is $35

1954
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,600
and then the use fee is based on water

1955
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,000
usage. So, it's the base fee of 35 and

1956
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,639
the use fee is based on the water usage.

1957
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:27,280
An estimate from the 2025 for our city

1958
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,239
would have been $1,800 for the year. So,

1959
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,000
and it's of course the more water use

1960
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,840
the more that goes up, but I mean still

1961
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,000
with us it's going to be not a whole

1962
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,400
lot, but just make you aware that's

1963
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,840
coming up in 2027.

1964
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,800
>> That base rate is assessed per resident

1965
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:43,840
at $35.

1966
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,760
>> No, that's that's the total base rate.

1967
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:46,880
>> Oh, the city.

1968
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,600
>> So, we're talking cents per resident.

1969
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,679
Yeah. For the base rate, then the use

1970
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:56,800
fee. Uh, so what they'll do is they'll give you from I think in July

1971
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,040
2027 is when they'll send out a notice

1972
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,199
for the base fee. You pay that. And then

1973
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:03,360
I think around October is when the use

1974
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,360
fee is due between October and December.

1975
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,600
I think you have to pay that. And I said

1976
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,639
that's going to be somewhere around

1977
01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:11,120
about $1,900 if it would have been 2025

1978
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,400
for us. Of course, it's probably a

1979
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,440
couple thousand dollar now. So then you

1980
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,960
>> Yeah. So that's coming up. Um,

1981
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,600
and then the just so you're aware, the

1982
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,080
fire crew is been out for almost a week

1983
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:24,639
now.

1984
01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:25,679
>> Where?

1985
01:23:25,679 --> 01:23:27,199
>> They are right now they're on the

1986
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:28,320
Hastings fire.

1987
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,320
>> Yeah.

1988
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,679
>> So many to choose from.

1989
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:32,800
>> Yeah. Which one?

1990
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,520
>> Yeah.

1991
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,000
Yeah. They started out as an

1992
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,400
initial attack out of uh

1993
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,840
Forest Street Fire State Landsfield

1994
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,880
office in Cedar City and then went got

1995
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,400
assigned to the Hastings fire. So

1996
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:46,719
they're

1997
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:47,840
>> Where's that one at?

1998
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,040
>> Over in Tilla County.

1999
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,239
>> Oh, okay.

2000
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:53,360
>> That was about done. They they've been I

2001
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,520
talked to Lance today. They've actually

2002
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:03,110
backed burned about 20,000.

2003
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,600
» No, I don't remember now. Think

2004
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:06,639
>> about 20,000 acres.

2005
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:08,239
>> 20,000 acres. Is that what it was?

2006
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:08,560
>> Yeah,

2007
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:09,840
>> we started out a fire, but they've back

2008
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,520
burned now about 20,000 acres, I

2009
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,280
believe. And that fire, I think, is now

2010
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,840
about 85% contained. So, they're

2011
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,199
releasing personnel. So, I don't know

2012
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:18,960
where they'll go next. Uh I know the

2013
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,639
Iron Fire is needing some personnel and

2014
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:21,920
now they got the big one, the Cottonwood

2015
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,400
fire down in Beaver County. That's just

2016
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:25,760
blew blown right up.

2017
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:26,880
>> It's huge fast.

2018
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,520
>> Yeah.

2019
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,920
>> I just got a you know, we have the app.

2020
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,920
I just got a notification and they said

2021
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,320
they're starting a back burn on the iron

2022
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,199
tonight.

2023
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:39,120
>> So, there'll be a lot of smoke.

2024
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,760
So says on the east side of the fire,

2025
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,520
smoke will be visible from surrounding

2026
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,800
communities through the night. So it'll

2027
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,239
be good, I guess. Stop it. They're

2028
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:49,840
trying to get it stopped, right?

2029
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,600
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's still growing fairly

2030
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,080
quickly. I think it's about five or 10%

2031
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,520
contains something like that. And I

2032
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:56,639
looked at their stuff.

2033
01:24:56,639 --> 01:25:01,430
>> Yeah. Like nine, I think.

2034
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:03,120
» We have friends that live in like that

2035
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,080
have the farms in Ma that are close, you

2036
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,320
know, not too far away. So

2037
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:09,840
>> scary.

2038
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,360
>> Yeah.

2039
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,840
The one in Beaver went from 750 acres to

2040
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,120
27,000 acres in like a day.

2041
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,239
>> They had It's huge. So

2042
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:21,440
that's crazy.

2043
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:24,159
>> Wonderful. Anything else? Any questions

2044
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,960
for Ted?

2045
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,520
>> We've got an awesome fire group. We even

2046
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,840
had people asking if they can help.

2047
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,880
We're on the Eureka Fire event.

2048
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,320
>> Yes. I think it's worth noting that a

2049
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,960
lot all of the current fires in our

2050
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,199
state were

2051
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:47,520
man-made, man-caused. Is that true? I

2052
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:48,880
know it is for the majority. I don't

2053
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,560
know if it's all

2054
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:56,080
>> the current ones. I think a majority of them are

2055
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,560
>> I know Eureka is I know Utah was

2056
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,840
>> Did they determine what caused Eureka?

2057
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,639
>> Yeah.

2058
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:05,600
But you can't say

2059
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:06,880
>> it's not publicly announced.

2060
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,280
>> Yeah, it's mancaused.

2061
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,199
>> I knew that, but I just wondered was it

2062
01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:12,639
a target shooting or

2063
01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:14,320
>> I don't know about the cotton fire. I

2064
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:15,440
don't know if they decided yet what

2065
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:16,159
started up.

2066
01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:19,040
>> Well, either way, please everybody be be

2067
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,880
safe. Be very cognizant of the fact that

2068
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,920
anything you do could spark, could light

2069
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,600
something up.

2070
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,360
>> We just need to be very careful.

2071
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,040
>> Our county is in stage one fire

2072
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,880
restrictions right now. Of course, our

2073
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,280
city has more stricter restrictions than

2074
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,120
the stage one county fire restrictions.

2075
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,320
>> We should post what the city

2076
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:42,000
restrictions are. Can you do that or

2077
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,920
>> I I think it would be really great to

2078
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,440
have um the fire chief and maybe some of

2079
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:49,840
the other people in the fire department

2080
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,120
make a little video to just talk about

2081
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,080
our fire restrictions, but also about

2082
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,080
the fires that are all around us right

2083
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,239
now and what the fire department will be

2084
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:03,440
doing on the 4th of July and and how

2085
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:06,159
they make the rounds around town. And if

2086
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:08,800
you see anything, call it in. Don't just

2087
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,159
say, "Huh, I wonder what's happening

2088
01:27:10,159 --> 01:27:13,040
there." Actually call it in. And so I

2089
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,639
think it would be great if we had a

2090
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:16,320
little a little video from the fire

2091
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,480
department.

2092
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:20,960
>> I always love

2093
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:21,360
uh

2094
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,800
>> a TED video.

2095
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,440
>> A TED talk video. They are fabulous.

2096
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,040
>> TED talks.

2097
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,639
>> So TED talks.

2098
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:32,159
>> No way. That would be great.

2099
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:35,920
>> You know what my dad always said?

2100
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,800
>> Um is it appropriate?

2101
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,199
Um yeah, he he always told me he said

2102
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:43,120
it's better to keep your mouth shut and

2103
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,199
be thought a fool than to open it and

2104
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:46,960
remove all doubt.

2105
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:47,520
>> I love that.

2106
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,679
>> Uh sometimes we uh do prove that we are

2107
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:53,280
a fool

2108
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,400
>> and we communicate too much.

2109
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,320
>> Why you giving me the side eye? I've

2110
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,239
been quiet tonight.

2111
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:02,159
>> Isn't that you?

2112
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:06,000
>> I'm afraid to talk. I might cough.

2113
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,120
isn't helping.

2114
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,520
>> There was no ask for a helicopter. Did

2115
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,199
you Did you just witness that? There was

2116
01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:12,880
no ask for a helicopter.

2117
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,159
>> I know.

2118
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:14,800
>> There you go.

2119
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,360
>> He's dropped that topic lately.

2120
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,840
>> No, they cause fires.

2121
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,960
>> Oh. Oh, shoot. Sorry. Laughs of

2122
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,159
judgment. Yeah.

2123
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:27,040
>> Okay, we're moving on to 14B. Do you

2124
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,560
have anything uh from Planning

2125
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,920
Commission or uh for uh enforcement?

2126
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:32,880
>> Already said.

2127
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,960
Oh, I'd love those. Do you

2128
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,159
want to Okay.

2129
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:38,960
>> I've got no uh emergency management,

2130
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,760
though I will I will state that we had a

2131
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,000
fabulous exercise

2132
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,199
um on Saturday. Uh we really appreciate

2133
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:50,400
those that did respond um to the message

2134
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,000
that went out. We had just around just

2135
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,400
over around 60% after we went in and

2136
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,600
pulled home duplicates out of the mix.

2137
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,440
Um which I was concerned we dropped

2138
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:04,400
quite a bit. Um, we

2139
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,520
it really turned out well. Um, I didn't

2140
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,520
have service or I'm not

2141
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,639
>> It's okay. Steve didn't respond either.

2142
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:16,480
>> No, Steve's uh response had zero zero

2143
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:18,320
longitude latitude, so it put him in the

2144
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,840
ocean. So, we pulled you back in.

2145
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:20,400
>> Oh, that's good.

2146
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,280
>> So, you got re reallocated properly.

2147
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,239
>> Um, we had a few. We actually had 109

2148
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:28,000
that dropped in the ocean just off the

2149
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,120
coast of Africa.

2150
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,760
>> Oh, really? So Ted or Alan Aaron has

2151
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,040
already worked on the software and

2152
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,199
pulled that bug out of it so it can't do

2153
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:37,679
that anymore. Um they've actually been

2154
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:40,719
doing a lot of work on it today um and

2155
01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:44,239
since the exercise so it it was really I

2156
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:46,880
felt extremely successful and did really

2157
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,040
well. Carrie,

2158
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,120
>> yes, I thought it was it was really good

2159
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,440
too. Um there were some things that we

2160
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:55,840
were able to see that uh you know that

2161
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,000
we can work on that we can be a little

2162
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,239
bit better at but we had a good um

2163
01:30:00,239 --> 01:30:03,520
response rate. The Red Cross were on a

2164
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,320
hand. We were the very first city in the

2165
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:10,480
state that they chose to come and help

2166
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:16,000
do assessments or to provide um free um

2167
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,040
smoke detectors. And so I was thinking

2168
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,960
that maybe Janet would like to put

2169
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,960
something in the newsletter about that.

2170
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,080
So with their contact information, some

2171
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,400
of our residents have a harder time, you

2172
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:29,760
know, making sure that they're working,

2173
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,920
testing them, and they'll come in for

2174
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,239
free and put smoke detectors in your

2175
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:37,360
home for anyone actually in our city.

2176
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,520
And so, um, it was a good partnership

2177
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,400
with the Red Cross. It was a good um

2178
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,840
exercise in seeing um how that software

2179
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,199
worked. And um it was fun watching all

2180
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:51,600
of the hearts come up on the screen that

2181
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,800
we had in the big room there. And um

2182
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,480
Dorl, it showed Dorl out in the middle

2183
01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:58,639
of the ocean on vacation and it showed

2184
01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:00,320
some other people where they were

2185
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,320
because they used that those who took

2186
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,080
off their latitude and latitude as the

2187
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,719
mayor said were off the coast of Africa.

2188
01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:10,320
So it was kind of fun just to see that.

2189
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,800
um that people were willing to be

2190
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,480
responsive um and it will greatly help

2191
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:19,280
um our city in the future as we identify

2192
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,520
who needs help and who is able to get

2193
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,360
out on their own because there is a lot

2194
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,239
of chaos when you evacuate and we want

2195
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:28,159
to make sure that everyone is accounted

2196
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:32,000
for safely. So, thanks to Erin and all

2197
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,760
of the team who who helped out on that.

2198
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,920
>> No, it was great. Um, one thing that we

2199
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,600
are going to be looking at internally as

2200
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:44,000
a staff is correlating our records. Um,

2201
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,679
we're going to find out who was able to

2202
01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:48,560
respond, look at what our systems were

2203
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,320
and those that didn't respond to, see if

2204
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,159
we actually have updated information,

2205
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:54,880
contact information for them. Um, we did

2206
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,600
learn that there was uh an update that

2207
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,159
took place on Everbridge. So, we're

2208
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:01,840
really grateful that we did this because

2209
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,360
we were able to find out that they had

2210
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,199
broken a few of our connections. And so

2211
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:06,880
we've been able to get those we're

2212
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,480
working on getting those reestablished

2213
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:11,360
and re-updated. So if you did not

2214
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,880
receive a message on Saturday, we are

2215
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,719
aware of that. We're working on it and

2216
01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:19,280
that shouldn't repeat hopefully. So

2217
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,040
>> maybe we can make like a signup genius

2218
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,960
or something uh for people to put in

2219
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,719
their current contact information and

2220
01:32:24,719 --> 01:32:27,040
then we can verify it if we wanted to.

2221
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,560
That might be an idea.

2222
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,400
>> Yeah, I think there will be a great

2223
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,239
brainstorming exercise that needs to

2224
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:33,600
happen to figure out what that looks

2225
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,880
like.

2226
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,679
Um, nothing from 911 Special Service

2227
01:32:37,679 --> 01:32:41,840
District. Um, for the mayor and council

2228
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,480
reports, uh, personnel, I've already

2229
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:45,840
spoken, uh, where we're at with

2230
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,360
Charlene. Um, auditors, um, the rest of

2231
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,920
our staff are I can't say enough good

2232
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,840
things about them. I'm grateful every

2233
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:57,040
single day as I come into the office. um

2234
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,440
they are extremely confident or

2235
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:02,239
competent and confident um that we're

2236
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:03,920
getting everything done that we need to.

2237
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,840
Um so thank you each of you for that

2238
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,440
fabulous work. Um as for a legal update

2239
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,320
um I don't really have anything too uh

2240
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,480
new um anything that you guys can think

2241
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:21,270
of for this body.

2242
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,800
Okay. Um, we will probably need to I do

2243
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,800
have other updates for a close session

2244
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,239
if you guys so desire. Um, Council

2245
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:33,280
Member Hutchkins, Planning Commission.

2246
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,280
>> Yeah. Um, Wayne's already talked about

2247
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,440
it and I missed it because my plane was

2248
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:40,080
delayed, so

2249
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,239
nothing for me.

2250
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:43,920
>> Wonderful. Council member Johns, public

2251
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:44,800
safety committee.

2252
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,719
>> No, we only hold these once a quarter.

2253
01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:49,520
So, nothing new. Just uh, good stuff on

2254
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:50,960
the

2255
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,719
>> Wonderful. Fantastic.

2256
01:33:52,719 --> 01:33:54,480
>> Thank you. Okay. Council member Lun

2257
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,120
everything that that you are over.

2258
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,239
>> There's a couple things. Um so we

2259
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,920
haven't had PTR or finance committee. Um

2260
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,679
events we met I met with the Woodland

2261
01:34:05,679 --> 01:34:08,560
Hills Days Committee last night. Um we

2262
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,040
have a really great group and they're

2263
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,920
trying to level up a few things and um

2264
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,080
improve those. So I'm excited for that.

2265
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,080
And

2266
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,920
um

2267
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,719
we have kind of a folk band that's going

2268
01:34:22,719 --> 01:34:24,400
to play. So it'll be a lot different

2269
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:25,920
than what we've had in the past. We've

2270
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,800
had kind of a old rock and roll type

2271
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,320
band before, but it's going to be more

2272
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,960
of a folk band this time. So that'll be

2273
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,400
really fun. A lot of it will be the

2274
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:38,960
same. Um, Hillary Weekes wants to level

2275
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,760
up the booths and she's reached out to

2276
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,760
some kind of high more high-end vendors

2277
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,239
that want to come um and are going to

2278
01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:51,120
come and have booths. Not the same as

2279
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,520
Maple Fest, but to that level of like

2280
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,400
quality stuff. Not the same people is

2281
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,440
what I mean. But um anyway, so kind of

2282
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:01,280
excited for that. And not that that's a

2283
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:02,480
money maker or anything because the

2284
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:06,159
booth is $20, but um and she even told

2285
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:08,000
the vendors, I can't guarantee you, you

2286
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:09,920
know, how well you'll do, but they're

2287
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,280
willing to come and give it a shot cuz

2288
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,840
the booths are so cheap. So, that's

2289
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,159
good. Um and then tomorrow night, I meet

2290
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:19,440
with our America 250 group. So, I just

2291
01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:21,199
need to get numbers from you where we're

2292
01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:22,719
at on the budget so I know,

2293
01:35:22,719 --> 01:35:23,199
>> of course,

2294
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:26,000
>> for the food, what I have left to spend.

2295
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,159
And then cuz we don't want to go over

2296
01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:32,639
and then a newsletter is coming due. So

2297
01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:34,800
it's time for a TED talk and a Wayne's

2298
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:39,679
world and stats from you know our law

2299
01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:41,840
enforcement and then anything else that

2300
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,480
anybody else has. And Bucky, if there's

2301
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:46,639
ever anything for Summit Creek that you

2302
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:48,560
want to put in our newsletter, we will

2303
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,040
take any and all

2304
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:52,800
contributions.

2305
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,600
So once a month I the end of the month

2306
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,760
is a deadline and then like the first

2307
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,920
business day of the month we get the

2308
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,199
newsletter out and

2309
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:02,000
>> okay

2310
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,080
>> any events going on in the community or

2311
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,280
anything like if there's something you

2312
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,440
want to let people know it's like slow

2313
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:09,120
down

2314
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,040
>> on the creek drive anything like that

2315
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,639
let us know we'll add it.

2316
01:36:12,639 --> 01:36:13,360
>> Awesome.

2317
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:17,040
>> So okay that's all I got.

2318
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,679
>> Wonderful

2319
01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:23,840
Hills days um you reached out to our

2320
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,920
legislators,

2321
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,560
um the state and the federal. I I

2322
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,960
noticed that Mike has been going to the

2323
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,120
different city events. um he posted on

2324
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,639
his

2325
01:36:36,639 --> 01:36:39,040
uh Facebook page and and I just think

2326
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,960
especially where we've got a uh you know

2327
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,520
some races going on, we might might want

2328
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,520
to reach out especially after the the

2329
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,679
primary closes and we see who's going to

2330
01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:52,400
move on and some of those might be might

2331
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,480
be interested in coming up. Just a

2332
01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:56,080
thought.

2333
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,800
>> Yeah, we used to invite them every time.

2334
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,159
Um, but we haven't uh I mean I usually

2335
01:37:02,159 --> 01:37:04,480
send something out to them, but it just

2336
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:07,199
depends on what's going on. And just in

2337
01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:09,840
case people don't re remember, um,

2338
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,320
Representative Burton did resign a

2339
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,840
couple months ago and um, Jackie Larson

2340
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,679
was his replacement. Um, and so if we do

2341
01:37:19,679 --> 01:37:21,920
invite them, make sure that she's on the

2342
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,719
list as well as Mike. And then after the

2343
01:37:24,719 --> 01:37:27,280
primary um

2344
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,840
votes are in tonight by 8, we should

2345
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,440
know who is going to be on our ballot um

2346
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:35,920
for Congress, which would either be

2347
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,639
Celeste Malloy or Phil Lyman. And so

2348
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:41,199
it'd be nice to be able to invite them.

2349
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:44,080
Usually the Sheriff Smith usually comes

2350
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,199
up and sometimes our our county um

2351
01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:49,679
commissioners come. So if you'd like me

2352
01:37:49,679 --> 01:37:52,159
to invite them, I would. If you want to

2353
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:53,760
do it on your own, I'm fine. Doesn't

2354
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,080
matter. But, um, I think that's a great

2355
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,280
reminder that it is, um, people do like

2356
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,520
seeing them.

2357
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,119
>> If you could take that on, I'd

2358
01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:05,040
appreciate it.

2359
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,870
>> Okay.

2360
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,520
You have all those connections.

2361
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,480
>> Seems like a natural.

2362
01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:14,960
>> All right.

2363
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:16,320
>> Well, I know we already talked a lot

2364
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,920
about community development, Carrie, but

2365
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,080
do you have anything else there?

2366
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,360
No, I except for again just reiterating

2367
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,679
my appreciation to the committee. They

2368
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:28,800
took it seriously. Um and I thought they

2369
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,679
did a really great job in um and all the

2370
01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:34,000
documents that they produced and the

2371
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,280
time that they spent with it and um it

2372
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,360
was great.

2373
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,920
>> Thank you. Appreciate that.

2374
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,840
Okay. We'll excuse Council Member Rhoden

2375
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,199
and I should have done that earlier. I

2376
01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:47,679
apologize. Um he is currently in

2377
01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:49,600
traveling for work.

2378
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,840
Um, anything for upcoming uh, city

2379
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,040
council meeting?

2380
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,600
Uh, obviously we've got the auditor um,

2381
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,520
RFP that'll need to be on a future

2382
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,960
council meeting. Um, anything else? I

2383
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,639
appreciate you just uh, putting the

2384
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:07,199
America 250 on there just so that we

2385
01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:09,360
keep talking about it and and citizens

2386
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,040
hear about it because I know a lot of

2387
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,159
people listen after the fact. So, um, I

2388
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:16,000
just I like that we keep So, keep doing

2389
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,239
that. I mean, we've only got one more

2390
01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:20,800
time, but let's do it one more time.

2391
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,760
>> Well, actually, you will have only one

2392
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,840
meeting in July, and so we need to

2393
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,560
decide on that date.

2394
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,159
>> Um,

2395
01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:31,760
>> I forgot about that.

2396
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,280
>> Yeah, it would be a good time to do

2397
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,520
that. I know we've discussed,

2398
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,600
>> so if we pull up calendars here, you

2399
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,560
guys, we have discussed the

2400
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,239
>> 14th, 21st, or 28th.

2401
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:46,960
>> So, concerning the in the beginning of

2402
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,229
the month.

2403
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:52,080
I mean the sooner date, whichever one

2404
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:53,600
was the sooner,

2405
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,199
>> the 14th.

2406
01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:57,440
>> Yeah.

2407
01:39:57,440 --> 01:39:59,280
>> Does anything anybody have a conflict on

2408
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,280
the 14th? That is our standard second

2409
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,400
uh week.

2410
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,840
Jody, anything on your end?

2411
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,760
I know we'll go quite a while till the

2412
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,639
next one, but

2413
01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:21,590
>> you should be okay.

2414
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,560
» Will, but

2415
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,639
>> so plan uh August 11th

2416
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:32,880
uh to be a decent sized meeting. Carrie,

2417
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,920
>> um yes. I also wanted to just um I've

2418
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,760
been talking to quite a few cities about

2419
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,719
what they've been doing for America 250.

2420
01:40:40,719 --> 01:40:42,800
Some of them have been doing something

2421
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:47,440
clear from last July 4th all year long

2422
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:51,520
and um and some are continuing on after

2423
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,320
this Fourth of July and we might want to

2424
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,480
consider

2425
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:58,400
something at Woodland Hills Day that

2426
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,000
just reiterates the 250 again in some

2427
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,040
way. Maybe that's when we do the the pie

2428
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,360
contest or any of those types of things

2429
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:13,520
when it's already associated with our traditional celebration, but it's it

2430
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,600
wasn't meant to be just a one-day thing.

2431
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,679
It it was meant to be celebrating all

2432
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:20,800
year long. So, just a thought.

2433
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,040
>> We already have that planned.

2434
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:23,440
>> Good.

2435
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:23,840
>> Yep.

2436
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,239
>> It's already in the works.

2437
01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:28,400
>> Wonderful, though. Good reminder. Okay.

2438
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,560
Anything else? Anybody?

2439
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,560
Does the 14th work though?

2440
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:33,520
>> Works for me.

2441
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,480
>> Okay, let's plan on the 14th unless uh

2442
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:38,960
we find out that there is some sort of a

2443
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,440
requirement for public hearing or

2444
01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:42,639
anything that we need to have happen

2445
01:41:42,639 --> 01:41:45,040
that may push that and I don't think

2446
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,480
there is unless Bucky something new at

2447
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:50,159
me.

2448
01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:53,520
>> He probably will. Wonderful. Okay, then

2449
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,400
we will um currently I I always look at

2450
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,679
that clock and it's wrong. Um,

2451
01:41:59,679 --> 01:42:04,080
let's take a quick recess for before um

2452
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,880
our city council meeting. Um, and let's

2453
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,870
plan to come back.

2454
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:11,600
» Give me two minutes.

2455
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,400
>> Steve's always excited about this at

2456
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,750
7:53.

2457
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:24,790
» That gives you five minutes.

2458
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,239
» Okay. Hey, I'd like to call everybody

2459
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:28,719
order to order for this uh city council

2460
01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:32,639
meeting. Um we are on June the 23rd,

2461
01:42:32,639 --> 01:42:35,360
2026. We're going to have an invocation

2462
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,520
from Council Member Malovich and then

2463
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,639
we'll have a pledge of allegiance from

2464
01:42:40,639 --> 01:42:46,070
Council Member Jones. Thank you. Yeah.

2465
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,639
» Dear heavenly father, we're grateful to

2466
01:42:48,639 --> 01:42:51,360
be gathered together tonight to discuss

2467
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,320
the needs of our city. We're grateful

2468
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,800
for the blessings thou has given unto

2469
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,480
us.

2470
01:42:58,480 --> 01:43:01,119
Father, we're mindful of the fire danger

2471
01:43:01,119 --> 01:43:04,000
we have. And please bless and protect

2472
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,719
our city. Help our residents be mindful

2473
01:43:06,719 --> 01:43:09,520
of their actions.

2474
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,239
Please bless the people of our state,

2475
01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:15,199
especially those in the Eureka area who

2476
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:17,920
are currently evacuated.

2477
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,080
help and bless the firefighters who are

2478
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,000
working so hard to protect and to

2479
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,159
contain that fire as well as the others

2480
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:26,000
in the state.

2481
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,800
Father, we're grateful for

2482
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:33,840
our freedoms, to have um a council and to

2483
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,280
have governing body to keep our city

2484
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,080
running well and and um that we are

2485
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,239
mindful of the decisions that we make.

2486
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:47,360
Please bless us this night as we um

2487
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,159
continue to discuss and vote on items

2488
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:52,960
that are important to um the well-being

2489
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,719
of our citizens, their health, their

2490
01:43:54,719 --> 01:43:59,600
safety, and as we remember um the

2491
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,760
quality of life that we all moved here

2492
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,960
for. We're grateful for um the

2493
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:06,880
friendships that we have throughout our

2494
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,560
community and for the

2495
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:15,280
camaraderie and the um the neighbors and

2496
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:20,239
the um sense of community that we have

2497
01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:23,119
um together. Bless us this night that

2498
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:24,880
our decisions will be thoughtful and

2499
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,760
intentional as well as our votes. And we

2500
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,679
say these things in the name of Jesus

2501
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:36,229
Christ. Amen. Amen.

2502
01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:37,679
Council member Jones.

2503
01:44:37,679 --> 01:44:40,239
>> Oh yeah. Please join me in the pledge of

2504
01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:42,400
allegiance.

2505
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,600
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

2506
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,639
United States of America and to the

2507
01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:52,320
republic for which it stands. One nation

2508
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:56,080
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

2509
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:02,870
justice for all.

2510
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,520
Uh thank you Council Member Malovich and

2511
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,880
Council Member Jones. Um we are now

2512
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,800
going to open the public comment uh

2513
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,119
section of our city council meeting.

2514
01:45:13,119 --> 01:45:14,880
Comments are limited to 2 minutes or

2515
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,679
less. Uh only in-person comments will be

2516
01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:20,880
included as part of the official record.

2517
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,470
Um

2518
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:25,760
» do you have anything, Kyle?

2519
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,639
>> Sure. Please, if you can state your

2520
01:45:28,639 --> 01:45:29,360
name.

2521
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:29,760
>> Sure.

2522
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:30,639
>> Um,

2523
01:45:30,639 --> 01:45:32,480
>> two minutes.

2524
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:33,840
>> If you need more, we can give you a

2525
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,400
little bit more.

2526
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,840
>> That's more for when we have a large

2527
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,040
group that I've got to

2528
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,760
>> like one of I think. So,

2529
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,920
>> well, my name is Am I speaking to the

2530
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,360
screen or do you guys

2531
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:48,480
>> You're speaking to us.

2532
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:49,840
>> To us.

2533
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,920
>> My name is Kyle Bentall. I live over on

2534
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,960
Mountain Veil Way next to the dewies and

2535
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:59,119
everything. Um I'm coming today um to

2536
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:02,960
make a proposal as you will either of an

2537
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,880
ordinance or of permission um in

2538
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,000
pertaining to archery hunting. Um I know

2539
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,560
this is kind of maybe a sensitive topic

2540
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,320
for Woodland Hills residents. I've

2541
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:18,400
talked to probably 12 to 15 different

2542
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:23,199
residents. um some that are already um

2543
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:27,119
either in the fire department um here or

2544
01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:29,440
in different spaces in Woodland Hills.

2545
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:32,000
Um Dan Jordan is one that I've discussed

2546
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,560
very heavily um this with and a lot of

2547
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,280
the other hunting community um that

2548
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,119
lives here. So this would be an

2549
01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:41,360
ordinance essentially um with the

2550
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,840
population of deer. My background

2551
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,040
specifically is land management and

2552
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,119
animals. That's that's what I've done my

2553
01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:51,840
whole life. I grew up in New Hampshire,

2554
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,320
very thick woods, low populations of

2555
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,679
deer, but wildlife everywhere. Um, and

2556
01:46:57,679 --> 01:47:00,159
then I transitioned to working in Idaho

2557
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:03,280
and Utah and land management of how to

2558
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:10,000
manage populations of animals and how to do it properly. Um, one of the

2559
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,080
concerns that I have with Woodland Hills

2560
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,400
is the overpopulation of the deer and

2561
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,760
turkeys. um specifically the deer and

2562
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,400
also the tick populations right now.

2563
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,719
I've found many ticks on me already this

2564
01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:24,880
year and I've never had a tick up here

2565
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,760
or in Oram or Provo before and I've had

2566
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,840
probably 25 this year just walking

2567
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:34,000
around. Um I know that a drastic change

2568
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,400
cannot happen overnight to the deer

2569
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,360
population, nor that it should. I enjoy

2570
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,360
the deer more than anyone. I have

2571
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,800
probably driven around for a total of

2572
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,760
like 800 hours, and I'm not joking.

2573
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,159
After work looking at the deer,

2574
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:53,280
photographing them, I have 25 signatures

2575
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,159
from land owners in Woodland Hills to do

2576
01:47:56,159 --> 01:47:58,960
photography, to walk on their land, and

2577
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,000
to enjoy picking up the antlers and such

2578
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,639
like that. Um, but one of the concerns

2579
01:48:04,639 --> 01:48:07,040
that I have for someone like myself,

2580
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,719
which I know is kind of a a rare

2581
01:48:08,719 --> 01:48:14,400
scenario, I have a muscle disease. So,

2582
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,880
I suffer from back pain. My ankle just

2583
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:18,400
happened and I broke my ankle. So,

2584
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,800
that's not part of this. But, I think

2585
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,239
there's two parts. one the issues of the

2586
01:48:24,239 --> 01:48:26,639
deer population and that there is times

2587
01:48:26,639 --> 01:48:30,639
where there's 123 deer on the Hanks

2588
01:48:30,639 --> 01:48:33,280
property at a single time and I can go

2589
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:36,000
around any given night and count 86 to

2590
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,760
90 deer in this tiny area is not

2591
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,320
sustainable. And I've seen eight

2592
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:46,239
different um females with either one

2593
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:48,800
singular baby or two. And that's just

2594
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,679
not sustainable for food.

2595
01:48:51,679 --> 01:48:53,199
It's going to make the tick pock

2596
01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:55,199
population go up and also the car

2597
01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:57,600
crashes increase. The other issue I have

2598
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:01,040
is the issue with poaching that has

2599
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,199
happened. There's just enough woods here

2600
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:05,840
that it can be hidden more than an

2601
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,080
elkridge, but I myself have seen at

2602
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,280
least one or two reportings that I found

2603
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,080
of antlers cut off deer, which is not

2604
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,440
allowed in off the side road places that

2605
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:20,400
I I've contacted the DNR. Um I know in

2606
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,840
Elkridge there was two um young teenage

2607
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:27,040
brothers that both had poached deer that

2608
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:28,639
they were not supposed to be on certain

2609
01:49:28,639 --> 01:49:30,960
properties. Um, but the difference that

2610
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,920
I'm looking to is to try to allow at

2611
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,560
least for myself ask permission, but if

2612
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:41,199
needed a small ordinance as a trial to

2613
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:42,960
be able to hunt the legal distance,

2614
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,560
which is already it doesn't go against

2615
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,119
any of the hunting policies because it's

2616
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:49,520
up to the ordinance of the town to be

2617
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,920
able to hunt 500 ft from a home, archery

2618
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,600
only, and you have to be a Woodland

2619
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,840
Hills resident. So, that would be very

2620
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,840
limited people. And then it also has

2621
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,119
taken me five years to draw this tag um

2622
01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:03,840
for this particular area for archery

2623
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:05,760
equipment. So it's not like someone from

2624
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,920
PAC or another person could come up

2625
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,440
here. It would have to be someone that's

2626
01:50:09,440 --> 01:50:12,639
background checked that has a history. I

2627
01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:14,239
know that it doesn't carry weight

2628
01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:16,239
anymore. But I'm an Eagle Scout. I clean

2629
01:50:16,239 --> 01:50:19,840
up everything that that I've ever gone.

2630
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,199
And I know that there's different

2631
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:23,360
properties down here that are on city

2632
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,159
land adjacent to the Hanks property.

2633
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:29,280
I've gone to many different neighbors to

2634
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,679
try to get signatures to originally when

2635
01:50:31,679 --> 01:50:34,080
I moved here to hunt on their land, but

2636
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,880
then I learned that it was not allowed

2637
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:38,960
um due that to the fact talking to the

2638
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,280
wonderful sheriff here that there's an

2639
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,560
or no ordinance in place to allow that.

2640
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,159
I am used to places where you can

2641
01:50:46,159 --> 01:50:48,560
archery hunt. It can it just has to be

2642
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:52,000
500 ft from a property. the fact that we

2643
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,320
can't hunt 500 feet from the homes even

2644
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,520
on the outskirts of the city limits. I

2645
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,840
also don't really understand that and I

2646
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,480
would look to ask for a change in that

2647
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:04,320
for at least residents because it would

2648
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,239
still be on up to the private land

2649
01:51:06,239 --> 01:51:07,920
owners to allow that. You would still

2650
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,840
have to get the written permission and

2651
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:13,040
follow all the DNR policies. Um, I would

2652
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,520
much rather that than people going out

2653
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,400
with the DNR to shoot at night with

2654
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,880
thermals or with rifles, elk, and deer

2655
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,360
to contain the populations on the hank

2656
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,600
property and then have a list of people

2657
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,360
that they just give out the meat. I

2658
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:28,400
don't think that's fair to the

2659
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,119
individuals of the community that spend

2660
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:33,679
time on the tags, nor do I think it's

2661
01:51:33,679 --> 01:51:35,760
okay for like someone like me who I can

2662
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:39,520
legally get a handicap sticker to hunt.

2663
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,239
But I if you don't have a tag that's non

2664
01:51:42,239 --> 01:51:44,480
archery, all the deer are up super high

2665
01:51:44,480 --> 01:51:46,159
unless they're on the outskirts down

2666
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:48,639
here. And

2667
01:51:48,639 --> 01:51:50,480
that's why I think the outskirts of the

2668
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:52,880
town should be allowed at least for the

2669
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:55,599
500 ft, not just in town, because those

2670
01:51:55,599 --> 01:51:57,520
deer aren't dumb. You'll see them,

2671
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,119
you'll stop with a car, and then they'll

2672
01:51:59,119 --> 01:52:01,280
run away. The ones up here, the ones

2673
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,119
that are closer down where I'm at or

2674
01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:05,360
like in Salem, they don't really care

2675
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,800
because they're very used to people that

2676
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,040
I I think all hunters can agree. We

2677
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,760
don't want to hunt deer that are dumb,

2678
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,599
but also there needs to be a population.

2679
01:52:15,599 --> 01:52:18,320
It's hard to manage conservation and

2680
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,560
ethics. And that's why I wanted to

2681
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,119
propose it and bring it up. So, I wanted

2682
01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:24,239
to hear your thoughts. That would be

2683
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:25,360
awesome.

2684
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,679
>> Well, I'd like to open this up to

2685
01:52:27,679 --> 01:52:29,520
somewhat of a discussion. And I know I'm

2686
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,840
kind of going against tradition. Have

2687
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:33,360
you in speaking with any of the

2688
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,840
residents that you have, have you had

2689
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,480
any that have expressed any sort of

2690
01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:40,159
resistance,

2691
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:42,239
um, complaint,

2692
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:44,719
um, concern, anything like that?

2693
01:52:44,719 --> 01:52:47,679
>> I had one or two that said their one

2694
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:49,920
concern would it would be the deer

2695
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:53,599
running based on like a poorly poor shot

2696
01:52:53,599 --> 01:52:56,080
or whatever the case was to another

2697
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,719
property to pass away. What I'd say to

2698
01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:01,679
that is that's the same concern of any

2699
01:53:01,679 --> 01:53:03,920
hunting within towns or cities, no

2700
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:05,760
matter the size, everywhere in the

2701
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,400
country. I've hunted eight states out of

2702
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,119
the 50. And I've done suburban hunting.

2703
01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:14,000
I've done public land mountain hunting.

2704
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,360
I've done every kind of hunting. And

2705
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,679
what I've noticed, I have not had one

2706
01:53:17,679 --> 01:53:20,480
single deer run more than 100 yards with

2707
01:53:20,480 --> 01:53:23,119
my bow and arrow. And all those deer

2708
01:53:23,119 --> 01:53:25,920
either run down to places where it's

2709
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:29,599
thick cover 90% of the time I've I've

2710
01:53:29,599 --> 01:53:32,320
never seen nor statistics show that they

2711
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,320
run right to people's yards to just die.

2712
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,159
That's the last place they want to go.

2713
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:38,080
to cover or they want to

2714
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,520
go to water.

2715
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,440
>> That is what I've seen. And from the

2716
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:43,760
concern of the residents, that's that's

2717
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:45,280
been the only thing or they don't want

2718
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,119
to wipe out all the population cuz they

2719
01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:49,679
enjoy the deer. And I've also heard

2720
01:53:49,679 --> 01:53:51,679
concerns of they eat everything I own

2721
01:53:51,679 --> 01:53:53,199
and I don't want to have to have wires

2722
01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:55,760
around every little plant I own could

2723
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,520
protect that. So

2724
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:58,719
>> yeah,

2725
01:53:58,719 --> 01:54:00,960
>> we if we can keep this, you know,

2726
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,719
somewhat

2727
01:54:02,719 --> 01:54:04,800
dialed in on time frame, but do you guys

2728
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,920
have anything? And we looked into a a

2729
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,639
couple years ago a program where, you

2730
01:54:10,639 --> 01:54:13,119
know, the DNR would come out, they'd

2731
01:54:13,119 --> 01:54:15,920
have hunters and to thin the population,

2732
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,639
but they would actually charge the city

2733
01:54:18,639 --> 01:54:23,119
$500 per deer to dispose of them. So, at

2734
01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:25,679
that time, cuz we've had other residents

2735
01:54:25,679 --> 01:54:28,320
bring it up. um you have the people that

2736
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,280
love the deer and you have the people

2737
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,119
that hate the deer, you know, and so

2738
01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:33,360
we've had we've had it brought up a few

2739
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:36,000
times and that was that was what we

2740
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,840
found with that. So what you're

2741
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,520
proposing is a hunt where the people

2742
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:42,400
keep the deer and keep the meat.

2743
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:44,880
>> Yes. And it it also like something that

2744
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:46,800
happens in Massachusetts, New Hampshire,

2745
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,760
Maine, and Idaho. A lot of the towns

2746
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:50,960
what they'll do is they'll have a

2747
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,159
council. So the person, let's say if I

2748
01:54:54,159 --> 01:54:56,800
was in charge of the harvest report or

2749
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,440
the people hunting, it would be me and

2750
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,560
maybe two other people if they even had

2751
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,800
the ability to do a pilot program to

2752
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,639
test it for one year. And then after

2753
01:55:06,639 --> 01:55:08,560
that, there would be like a minimum so

2754
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:11,040
or a maximum of like there can be no

2755
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,320
more than six people allowed to hunt in

2756
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,239
all of Woodland Hills or the surrounding

2757
01:55:16,239 --> 01:55:19,440
areas. And that's how they do it to

2758
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,040
structure it. That way you don't have

2759
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,719
people coming from other places. The

2760
01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:25,119
whole point is it's for the Woodland

2761
01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:26,480
Hills residents. So you don't have

2762
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,880
people flocking in here and people

2763
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:30,800
parked in people's driveways or cause

2764
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,199
any trespassing issues, anything like

2765
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:35,599
that. It's within the town and the town

2766
01:55:35,599 --> 01:55:38,400
can do that. Um, as far as I know with

2767
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,679
the DNR, the only reason why they

2768
01:55:41,679 --> 01:55:42,800
haven't done that is because you have to

2769
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:44,320
go through a bunch of loops when they're

2770
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:45,920
the ones that are harvesting it or

2771
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,320
they're the ones bringing hunters. A lot

2772
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,719
of other places the DNR will have to

2773
01:55:50,719 --> 01:55:53,520
hire snipers or people that aren't even

2774
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:55,760
Utah residents to come in to harvest

2775
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,639
these animals and just take them. And I

2776
01:55:58,639 --> 01:56:00,080
don't think that's good. And I don't

2777
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,400
think it's just one-sided. I hate the

2778
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,560
deer. I love the deer because also I'm a

2779
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,960
hunter and I love deer more than the

2780
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,760
people that like them. And I know that's

2781
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,719
kind of hard for people to understand,

2782
01:56:12,719 --> 01:56:14,400
but if you have a higher population of

2783
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,800
deer, the quality of the bucks goes

2784
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,360
down, the fertility rate goes down.

2785
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:21,440
There's a lot of other things, a lot of

2786
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,320
other scientific facts of what changes

2787
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,960
based on on those parameters.

2788
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,520
>> So, I would have a concern for my pets

2789
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:34,080
though, you know, a stray arm.

2790
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:37,520
And and I would I would argue that with

2791
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,599
how thick the woods are and everything

2792
01:56:39,599 --> 01:56:43,679
else, I personally have been doing this.

2793
01:56:43,679 --> 01:56:47,599
I've I've harvested 25 deer with my bow

2794
01:56:47,599 --> 01:56:50,320
and I have never heard I've heard of gun

2795
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:54,080
incidents or like shotgun incidents um

2796
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:56,880
with stray like dogs running through the

2797
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:58,880
woods that someone thought was a coyote.

2798
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:04,080
I've never seen a coyote here. Maybe other people have, but we don't

2799
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,080
have wolves. I I've heard them up higher

2800
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,000
near the mines and such,

2801
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,480
>> but I I don't think the whole point of

2802
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,159
hunting and the whole point you have to

2803
01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:14,320
go through a course to know what you're

2804
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,400
shooting at. And even if there was a

2805
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,000
rule like, hey, you have to be in a

2806
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,920
treeand, you can't spot and stock, I'd

2807
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,080
even be willing to do that. So that way

2808
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,400
you're shooting down and you can't just

2809
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,960
shoot out. The whole point of the like I

2810
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:28,880
have a whole written report that talks

2811
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:30,800
about like how you would have to shoot

2812
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,639
with obviously like a backdrop and

2813
01:57:32,639 --> 01:57:36,400
everything but it you just not it just

2814
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:37,840
doesn't happen that people just go

2815
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:39,599
shooting animals and stuff that just

2816
01:57:39,599 --> 01:57:42,719
doesn't doesn't happen.

2817
01:57:42,719 --> 01:57:45,760
>> I just you know if they mis mistook a a

2818
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,719
larger dog from a distance through the

2819
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:50,239
woods you know what I mean if you

2820
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:52,000
couldn't see it.

2821
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,159
>> Yeah. And and it would just be deer. it

2822
01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:56,239
wouldn't be like all animals or all

2823
01:57:56,239 --> 01:57:58,400
hunting. So, I think that's also

2824
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,199
>> Joey, do you have something?

2825
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:03,199
>> Kyle, I have a quick question. So, are

2826
01:58:03,199 --> 01:58:05,679
you saying that there would be a written

2827
01:58:05,679 --> 01:58:09,679
permission from the property owner? And

2828
01:58:09,679 --> 01:58:12,719
um would there then be any sort of uh

2829
01:58:12,719 --> 01:58:17,440
accountability if they

2830
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,000
um shot too far and it was on the

2831
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,440
neighbor's property where they didn't

2832
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,520
have permission? Is there something in

2833
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,080
your proposal that would have a written

2834
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,920
permission that would be given to the

2835
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,719
city and then also that accountability

2836
01:58:30,719 --> 01:58:33,760
if they went over a property line?

2837
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:35,280
>> Yeah, that's a great question. So,

2838
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:36,880
there's a couple different ways to go

2839
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,119
about that. One, you can get permission

2840
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:41,520
to retrieve an animal without hunting on

2841
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,760
their property beforehand. I've done

2842
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:47,599
that before. Um, the other scenarios are

2843
01:58:47,599 --> 01:58:49,040
you always have to have written

2844
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:50,719
permission. And that's just everywhere

2845
01:58:50,719 --> 01:58:54,000
in the in the entire state. But for the

2846
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,320
specific fact of hunting to your

2847
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:59,280
question, um you're saying if if like

2848
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,040
one runs onto other property, is that

2849
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,280
what you're discussing?

2850
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,360
>> Yeah. Or or if somebody because we don't

2851
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,320
have fences or exact property lines. I

2852
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:09,920
mean, you know where your property lines

2853
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,000
are, but if you're hunting on someone

2854
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,360
else's property lines, um maybe that's

2855
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,440
part of that application is that you've

2856
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,480
walked the line. um with that property

2857
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,040
owner and you do not shoot over that

2858
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,599
line um unless you have permission from

2859
01:59:25,599 --> 01:59:28,159
their neighbor to cross it because I

2860
01:59:28,159 --> 01:59:30,000
think that's goes to part of what Janet

2861
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,880
was saying. We don't want um somebody

2862
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:34,639
saying, "Well, I think it was just on,

2863
01:59:34,639 --> 01:59:36,719
you know, a foot on this side and then

2864
01:59:36,719 --> 01:59:39,119
it ran over." Well, maybe, but maybe

2865
01:59:39,119 --> 01:59:41,040
not. So, I think that it would be

2866
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,000
important for neighbors to to be

2867
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:49,520
notified that someone's shot shooting on their neighbor's property and that a

2868
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,320
deer who's wounded might come onto their

2869
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,719
property, but that the hunter themselves

2870
01:59:54,719 --> 01:59:56,639
will not be shooting on the neighbor's

2871
01:59:56,639 --> 01:59:57,840
property.

2872
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,080
>> Just something to clarify.

2873
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:01,119
>> Yeah, that's a great question.

2874
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:02,960
Generally, what you're supposed to do

2875
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,800
when you get property permission is not

2876
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,560
just have the one property, but the two

2877
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,679
adjacent at least um to get their

2878
02:00:09,679 --> 02:00:11,520
permission for approval just in case

2879
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,599
something like that does happen. But one

2880
02:00:13,599 --> 02:00:15,199
of the ways to combat that is almost

2881
02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:17,119
every single hunter that I know has an

2882
02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:20,239
app called Onyx. And what that does is

2883
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:22,320
it shows you all of the property lines

2884
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,599
to a tea within less than a foot, the

2885
02:00:25,599 --> 02:00:28,080
property lines. I've walked a lot of

2886
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,679
property lines and even if there is a

2887
02:00:29,679 --> 02:00:31,679
stake in the ground it lines up with it

2888
02:00:31,679 --> 02:00:34,480
and that's what you guys have access to

2889
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,040
through like city council like if it

2890
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,199
shows you property lines it's the same

2891
02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:41,360
data is transferred to this hunting

2892
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:44,000
application but it's also an off-road

2893
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,560
mapping system that shows you the exact

2894
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:48,880
property line so you can combat that to

2895
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:50,880
not have a guessing game of where you're

2896
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:52,719
at.

2897
02:00:52,719 --> 02:00:55,840
>> Okay, perfect. Jody,

2898
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:59,199
>> so I appreciate what you're saying.

2899
02:00:59,199 --> 02:01:01,360
However, I have a very experienced

2900
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:04,159
hunter that lives next to me, and I

2901
02:01:04,159 --> 02:01:08,480
ended up with an arrow in my front yard

2902
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,280
where my grandkids play. That's going to

2903
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,440
be a that's going to be a huge concern

2904
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:16,560
the council's going to have to hear is

2905
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,199
you may be good and you may be able to

2906
02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:21,520
do it, but that doesn't mean everyone

2907
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,679
else is going to be able to. and to

2908
02:01:23,679 --> 02:01:25,840
screen and say yes, you're allowed, but

2909
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:29,760
you're not. We the council could get in

2910
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:31,920
trouble with favoritism,

2911
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,119
um liability, things like that. So,

2912
02:01:35,119 --> 02:01:36,960
that's something that you may want to

2913
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:37,920
consider. But

2914
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,040
>> he's an experienced hunter. He I mean, I

2915
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:42,719
know he

2916
02:01:42,719 --> 02:01:44,719
has shot a number of things, but to all

2917
02:01:44,719 --> 02:01:46,800
of a sudden find their arrows in our

2918
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:48,000
front yard.

2919
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,719
>> Were they hunting or archery? because

2920
02:01:50,719 --> 02:01:52,719
you're not supposed to discharge a bow

2921
02:01:52,719 --> 02:01:53,920
up here anyways.

2922
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:54,880
>> Exactly. Yeah.

2923
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:59,920
>> Yeah. And yeah, they know it, but um

2924
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:02,800
those things happen. And who are you all

2925
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:04,239
of a sudden? So, I think you'd have to

2926
02:02:04,239 --> 02:02:06,960
really be careful of who you're granting

2927
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:08,400
permission to and how you're going about

2928
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:08,880
doing.

2929
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:10,880
>> Yeah. And and that's also the the nice

2930
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,040
thing about even like I said if it's the

2931
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:15,520
worst case scenario just the outskirts

2932
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:17,119
that would also help prevent those

2933
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:19,040
things cuz those people tend to have the

2934
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:22,239
larger properties um especially near the

2935
02:02:22,239 --> 02:02:25,119
switchbacks up here and all around these

2936
02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:28,719
areas. It's not even the places that are

2937
02:02:28,719 --> 02:02:31,679
right on the borders of the the city,

2938
02:02:31,679 --> 02:02:34,320
you're still not allowed to hunt those.

2939
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:35,760
um even the properties that are

2940
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:39,840
thousands of acres um which I can't

2941
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:43,679
understand but I'm trying to but I think

2942
02:02:43,679 --> 02:02:46,000
that's definitely important that that

2943
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,239
maybe I don't I wouldn't see it as

2944
02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:49,920
favoritism because I'm coming and I'm

2945
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:51,920
trying to plead the case but but I

2946
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:56,880
understand what you're saying but the other thing is the state or the

2947
02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:59,199
people aren't li liable if anything

2948
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:01,920
happens on their property as long as you

2949
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,560
have written permission it's on the

2950
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,760
individual once the person decided to go

2951
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,199
on their property. Once you go on their

2952
02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:11,920
property, the DNR has a law that says

2953
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:14,880
that they are not at fault. If someone's

2954
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:16,400
hunting on your property, they're not

2955
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:18,159
liable. So, I also think that's

2956
02:03:18,159 --> 02:03:20,239
important cuz people might think, oh,

2957
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:21,920
what if he falls out of a treeand or

2958
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:23,360
what if he breaks an ankle on my

2959
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,840
property because everybody's sue hungry

2960
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,400
nowadays. I understand that side of it

2961
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:29,679
where people are worried, but you're

2962
02:03:29,679 --> 02:03:32,480
covered under the the state under

2963
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,080
fishing game once you get written

2964
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:35,760
permission.

2965
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:37,679
>> Okay. Do you have anything, Steve?

2966
02:03:37,679 --> 02:03:40,080
>> Um, objectively, are we overpop

2967
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:43,440
populated in deer

2968
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:44,639
>> to me or Yes.

2969
02:03:44,639 --> 02:03:47,040
>> No. I mean, is is it a fact that we are

2970
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,880
overpopulated? Yeah.

2971
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:49,199
>> So,

2972
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:49,840
>> yeah. without

2973
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:51,280
>> is that the is that the conclusion the

2974
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:54,719
DNR came up with as well when when we

2975
02:03:54,719 --> 02:03:57,360
had that exercise a few years ago?

2976
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:59,280
>> I think it's every year is different.

2977
02:03:59,280 --> 02:03:59,599
>> Yeah.

2978
02:03:59,599 --> 02:04:01,280
>> Right. Our population drastically

2979
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:04,239
decreased after 3 years ago winter

2980
02:04:04,239 --> 02:04:06,239
>> because it it wiped out a large number

2981
02:04:06,239 --> 02:04:08,560
about what was it 70% of the herd I

2982
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:09,679
believe I had heard

2983
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:11,920
>> that that didn't survive which was

2984
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,639
extremely helpful for our herd.

2985
02:04:14,639 --> 02:04:18,480
>> Um so I think it's a yeartoyear basis.

2986
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,239
Um, so one thing that I would like to do

2987
02:04:20,239 --> 02:04:23,040
without us carrying on for because I

2988
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:24,800
think we could talk about this for for

2989
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:26,000
quite a while.

2990
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:27,840
>> Um, and since we are still in the public

2991
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:31,119
comment section of the council meeting,

2992
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:32,639
um,

2993
02:04:32,639 --> 02:04:35,679
I would request that, and this is up to

2994
02:04:35,679 --> 02:04:37,440
the discretion of the council, but I

2995
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,639
would request that that we entertain the

2996
02:04:40,639 --> 02:04:44,000
ability to explore this further. Um, I

2997
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,280
think the way

2998
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,920
it would be extremely easy for us to say

2999
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,560
this will be hard and thus it's not

3000
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:55,119
worth our time.

3001
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:58,000
I I encouraged when Kyle reached out to

3002
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,199
me, I encouraged him to come and talk

3003
02:05:01,199 --> 02:05:03,119
with you guys, right? This is what I

3004
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:05,840
want our all of our residents who have

3005
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,400
an idea and a suggestion and and to come

3006
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:09,840
with a solution and pitch it to the

3007
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:14,239
council for an ordinance change. Um, I

3008
02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:16,080
would, you know, put the onus back on

3009
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:18,719
you, Kyle, right? Uh, because I think

3010
02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:20,159
you've gained some probably a little bit

3011
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:22,560
of feedback here to be able to say,

3012
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,119
"Okay, here's probably what this process

3013
02:05:25,119 --> 02:05:27,360
if we're able to be successful with a

3014
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,840
plan like this, right?

3015
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:32,719
What are the the the ordinances or state

3016
02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:35,679
statutes that DNR operates under? Where

3017
02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:37,840
would where do we currently fall? What

3018
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:40,880
would need to be changed on our end? And

3019
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:43,440
what would a process look like from a

3020
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:46,080
vetting standpoint, from a commission

3021
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:47,760
standpoint?

3022
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:49,920
You know, it's more than just kind of

3023
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,400
like we did, you saw us today. You know,

3024
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:55,199
we changed an ordinance

3025
02:05:55,199 --> 02:05:57,040
>> if required.

3026
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,840
>> This is a much larger thing than that.

3027
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:01,440
>> Um, we're going to need to do a public

3028
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:03,599
hearing on something like this, right?

3029
02:06:03,599 --> 02:06:05,920
We're going to need to do a lot of work

3030
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:11,920
and there's there's an extreme degree of scrutiny. This is going to get the

3031
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:15,360
population of Wooden Hills also out um

3032
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:16,639
on both fronts.

3033
02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:16,960
>> Yeah,

3034
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,840
>> it's a highly contentious issue. I don't

3035
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:21,679
want us to run away from it because it

3036
02:06:21,679 --> 02:06:25,040
is that. Um I want all cases to be

3037
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:27,199
fought. Um and so that would be my

3038
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:30,639
thought is I think I think there is

3039
02:06:30,639 --> 02:06:33,119
potential merit here.

3040
02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:36,800
I think the process could be built in a

3041
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,679
way that does do the due diligence while

3042
02:06:39,679 --> 02:06:42,880
granting uh the rights to be able to do

3043
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,199
something like this. But I think it's

3044
02:06:45,199 --> 02:06:47,199
going to be an uphill battle.

3045
02:06:47,199 --> 02:06:49,599
>> No. Sure. And and that's why I'm saying

3046
02:06:49,599 --> 02:06:51,520
if

3047
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,920
at at the at the worst case scenario, I

3048
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,320
would pitch not just the idea or the

3049
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:59,040
ordinance, but myself for permission

3050
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:00,960
because that is something that's allowed

3051
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,960
without creating an entire

3052
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:08,239
um vote. From what I understand, you do

3053
02:07:08,239 --> 02:07:11,440
not have to create um an entire law and

3054
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:14,079
get the entire town to approve one

3055
02:07:14,079 --> 02:07:16,639
individual with like a co-pilot to be

3056
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:18,159
able to hunt surrounding properties if

3057
02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:21,760
it's the own private citizens

3058
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:23,760
properties that are not right on like

3059
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:25,679
the city limits. But I don't I don't

3060
02:07:25,679 --> 02:07:27,760
know. Like I said, I'm I'm young. I'm

3061
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:31,119
just I'm not a politician by any means.

3062
02:07:31,119 --> 02:07:33,440
>> You're getting in the process. that

3063
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:35,840
>> if if I have to have my company make a

3064
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:37,840
pickle ball court and sponsor the pickle

3065
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:39,520
ball tournament to be able to hunt, I'll

3066
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:41,760
do it. But I'm just

3067
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:45,760
>> We're talking about some good things.

3068
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:47,920
>> Sorry, Carrie has a question.

3069
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:49,599
>> Yes, Carrie.

3070
02:07:49,599 --> 02:07:52,480
>> Yes. I just wanted to say to Kyle, um,

3071
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:53,760
you know, thanks for bringing this.

3072
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:56,159
We've looked into this several times

3073
02:07:56,159 --> 02:07:59,280
through the years and at one point DNR

3074
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:02,000
did come out and do a count and said we

3075
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,239
weren't overpopulated, but to the

3076
02:08:04,239 --> 02:08:07,280
mayor's point, depending on the year,

3077
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:09,040
you know, some years we have more than

3078
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:11,280
others. There are years that DNR has

3079
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,920
come and captured turkeys and relocated

3080
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:17,360
them to other areas. Um, but with that

3081
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:19,840
being said, there are several cities

3082
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,239
throughout the state who have done this

3083
02:08:22,239 --> 02:08:23,760
urban

3084
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,480
archery permit and I would suggest in

3085
02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:29,520
your quest to find out more information

3086
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,320
is to contact those cities and get their

3087
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:35,599
policies because several of them wrote

3088
02:08:35,599 --> 02:08:38,000
it the first time and found out, oh, we

3089
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:39,360
need to change this, we need to change

3090
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:42,000
that. So, if you can kind of piggyback

3091
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:43,840
on some of the other cities and their

3092
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,320
best practices and what they've found

3093
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:48,400
out worked and didn't worked, that will

3094
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:51,679
help build a different foundation and um

3095
02:08:51,679 --> 02:08:54,159
be able to maybe eliminate some of the

3096
02:08:54,159 --> 02:08:56,960
concerns that um both sides will bring

3097
02:08:56,960 --> 02:09:00,239
to the table.

3098
02:09:00,239 --> 02:09:01,840
>> Thank you, Carrie. Brian, I don't want

3099
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:05,440
to skip you. Do you have anything?

3100
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:09,199
Uh, no. I'm encouraged that you came to

3101
02:09:09,199 --> 02:09:13,920
talk to us about this. Um, I would

3102
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:15,599
I'm going to stick my foot in my mouth

3103
02:09:15,599 --> 02:09:18,480
here and I'd be happy to

3104
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:21,199
uh

3105
02:09:21,199 --> 02:09:24,480
to work with you on this and kind of

3106
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:30,000
give you um pointers, give you ideas um

3107
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,159
and and lies with the rest of the

3108
02:09:32,159 --> 02:09:34,000
council and the mayor. I mean, you can

3109
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:42,079
do that directly, obviously, but um if I I'd be happy to to help point you in

3110
02:09:42,079 --> 02:09:44,320
certain directions. I'm not against it.

3111
02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:46,639
I'm not necessarily for it at this

3112
02:09:46,639 --> 02:09:49,280
point, but um as a as a hunter, well, I

3113
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:51,040
haven't hunted in years, but as a former

3114
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:54,880
hunter, um and and Dan, I'm Dan and I

3115
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,040
share a driveway, so I I know Dan really

3116
02:09:57,040 --> 02:10:01,440
well. Um I'd be happy to to help with

3117
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:04,320
this. And

3118
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:07,520
if if you if you want someone to help

3119
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:09,360
you get through this, you're going to

3120
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:10,560
have to do the leg work. I don't have

3121
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:14,880
the time, but um I can help.

3122
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:20,709
I'd be happy to help you where I can.

3123
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:22,239
» Perfect.

3124
02:10:22,239 --> 02:10:26,560
>> And I guess my last question would be

3125
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:29,119
>> obviously that route would take forever

3126
02:10:29,119 --> 02:10:32,560
if it's open to everyone. Um, and it's a

3127
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:34,880
whole ordinance grade and everything. Is

3128
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:37,920
there a world where let's say you guys

3129
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:39,440
say nope, we don't want on the private

3130
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:41,840
citizens, but we have the city

3131
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:44,000
properties or the Hanks property because

3132
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:45,679
there's already bylaws in place. If

3133
02:10:45,679 --> 02:10:47,679
there's more than if someone owns more

3134
02:10:47,679 --> 02:10:52,159
than 400 to 200 acres within Salem or

3135
02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:55,040
Woodland Hills, if the DNR allows it,

3136
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:56,960
you are able to hunt there. So, for

3137
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:58,960
example, the Hanks property or the

3138
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:02,639
Woodland Hills Woodland Hills City um

3139
02:11:02,639 --> 02:11:04,560
plots of land down here, is that

3140
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:06,719
something I could propose for permission

3141
02:11:06,719 --> 02:11:10,239
to hunt without creating an ordinance?

3142
02:11:10,239 --> 02:11:12,079
>> Typically,

3143
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:14,000
over the last four years of my me on the

3144
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,800
council, um and now as mayor, I've

3145
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:20,239
always tried to push ordinances that are

3146
02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:21,840
available for all residents.

3147
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:25,920
>> Sure. Um and so that inclusiveness

3148
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,560
um you know even even with land abudding

3149
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:33,119
the city center for example right is I'm

3150
02:11:33,119 --> 02:11:36,239
happy to grant utilization of that land

3151
02:11:36,239 --> 02:11:38,800
if it's a capacity that all residents

3152
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,199
could take a part of right

3153
02:11:41,199 --> 02:11:45,280
>> um and so because city resources

3154
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:47,199
potentially for management or anything

3155
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:48,960
like that

3156
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:50,719
it would need to be available for

3157
02:11:50,719 --> 02:11:53,440
everybody. So it can't be so it can't be

3158
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:55,840
individualized like

3159
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,159
>> other cities have done

3160
02:11:58,159 --> 02:12:01,199
>> the ordinance and and I'd be open

3161
02:12:01,199 --> 02:12:03,040
personally I'd be open now I' I'm not a

3162
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:04,239
voting member of this city

3163
02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:05,440
>> sure

3164
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:07,119
>> I'd be open to at least take a look at

3165
02:12:07,119 --> 02:12:09,599
it from what others are authorizing and

3166
02:12:09,599 --> 02:12:12,320
what that ordinance looks like but that

3167
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:14,880
code would need to be in place for that

3168
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:16,480
granting to be available.

3169
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:18,400
>> Got it. So,

3170
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:21,040
>> but

3171
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:21,760
>> thank you.

3172
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:22,079
>> Yeah,

3173
02:12:22,079 --> 02:12:24,159
>> I know that was a lot of time. I think

3174
02:12:24,159 --> 02:12:26,000
it was well worth it for the sake of

3175
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:27,520
what it looks like for bringing

3176
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:29,440
legislation to the body.

3177
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:32,239
>> The only question I last have is, you

3178
02:12:32,239 --> 02:12:34,000
know, it's like 100° outside and you're

3179
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:36,159
in a sweater, right?

3180
02:12:36,159 --> 02:12:38,000
>> To be perfectly honest, I did not think

3181
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:39,679
I'd be here for 2 and 1 half hours when

3182
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:41,840
I was 18 minutes late

3183
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:44,719
>> after work. So, I didn't know how the

3184
02:12:44,719 --> 02:12:46,079
meetings worked. So,

3185
02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:49,199
>> well, it's cold in here, so you're good.

3186
02:12:49,199 --> 02:12:50,800
>> This will come off immediately when I

3187
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:51,440
go.

3188
02:12:51,440 --> 02:12:53,440
>> You're good, bro. Bucky.

3189
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:59,030
>> So, we um

3190
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:01,040
calls

3191
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:04,880
if they can and say they have tags

3192
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:08,400
and I have no idea what any requirements

3193
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:11,280
are, what the DNR requirements are,

3194
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:13,599
anything. So, it'd be super helpful to

3195
02:13:13,599 --> 02:13:15,040
know.

3196
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:15,520
Yes.

3197
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:17,840
>> Hanks for people that have property.

3198
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:19,920
>> It's really only Hanks and you guys that

3199
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:23,280
have square footage or acreage enough to

3200
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,320
make this a question, right?

3201
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,079
>> And that's I think what we really need

3202
02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:29,040
to address.

3203
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:30,560
>> Um I think

3204
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:35,040
>> so it's a it's 100 acres or more.

3205
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:36,000
>> But there was something else that I

3206
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:39,199
don't have to look at and see. I believe

3207
02:13:39,199 --> 02:13:42,800
the Hanks just split their property.

3208
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:45,280
It's not under one person. There's three

3209
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:46,000
separate.

3210
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:47,840
>> So I know the Davis property was sold

3211
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:49,599
and everything, but who owns Northern

3212
02:13:49,599 --> 02:13:52,639
Slope LLC?

3213
02:13:52,639 --> 02:13:53,040
>> Okay.

3214
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,280
>> So that's But that's is that even a part

3215
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:57,280
of the city limit though or is half of

3216
02:13:57,280 --> 02:13:58,000
it? Oh,

3217
02:13:58,000 --> 02:13:59,599
>> a portion of it is

3218
02:13:59,599 --> 02:14:02,320
>> because it cuts into the public that can

3219
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:03,599
talk about it as well.

3220
02:14:03,599 --> 02:14:04,560
>> Yeah.

3221
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:06,560
>> There's some complexity here that that

3222
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:08,719
we need to iron out. I think there's

3223
02:14:08,719 --> 02:14:12,000
value whether it's for this upcoming

3224
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,719
hunting season or future.

3225
02:14:14,719 --> 02:14:16,639
>> I think there's value in us going

3226
02:14:16,639 --> 02:14:19,040
through the legislative process to work

3227
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,239
through this.

3228
02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:22,320
>> Gota sounds good.

3229
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:24,400
>> Not a quick easy one like we were hoping

3230
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:26,800
or we were hoping, but I think we've got

3231
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:28,000
some good things moving forward.

3232
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:29,360
>> I figured that could definitely be a

3233
02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:32,079
factor, but I was I was like, if I draw

3234
02:14:32,079 --> 02:14:34,320
the tag, I'm going to try cuz I finally

3235
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:36,719
did. So, I was like, oh, that's all.

3236
02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:38,400
Let's see what we can do.

3237
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:39,920
>> Okay, thank you so much.

3238
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:41,280
>> Thank you. I appreciate all of your

3239
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:43,199
time. It's nice to meet all of you.

3240
02:14:43,199 --> 02:14:46,079
>> Of course. Thank you.

3241
02:14:46,079 --> 02:14:48,719
>> Okay. Um Sherry, I know you had

3242
02:14:48,719 --> 02:14:50,239
something earlier.

3243
02:14:50,239 --> 02:14:56,069
>> G,

3244
02:14:56,079 --> 02:14:57,520
» she might have.

3245
02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,520
>> No, she didn't go away. She's sitting

3246
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:00,480
here

3247
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:02,239
>> listening to everything you guys are

3248
02:15:02,239 --> 02:15:06,159
saying. Um, just for point with regards

3249
02:15:06,159 --> 02:15:09,920
to what Kyle brought up, um, I have seen

3250
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:12,400
coyotes on my property. I've seen a pack

3251
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:15,520
of them walking oh, I don't know, just

3252
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:18,000
up on the ridge there where I can see I

3253
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,480
saw them from my bedroom window. I've

3254
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:23,599
seen cougars and I've also had a friend

3255
02:15:23,599 --> 02:15:27,040
tell me walking the trail, she had an

3256
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:30,639
arrow whiz by her head.

3257
02:15:30,639 --> 02:15:34,719
So, just little bit of information for

3258
02:15:34,719 --> 02:15:38,000
Kyle and what he's presenting. Um, my

3259
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:42,320
public comment has to do with 10

3260
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,400
5e

3261
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:48,159
the hazard study. It specifically says

3262
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:51,920
homes with regards to

3263
02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:54,639
uh building permit.

3264
02:15:54,639 --> 02:15:59,040
I tried searching uh the PDF document to

3265
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:02,000
see where else hazard study appeared in

3266
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:04,000
the city ordinances

3267
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:07,040
and I'm wondering how hazard study

3268
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:08,560
appears

3269
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:11,599
to city owned property

3270
02:16:11,599 --> 02:16:16,320
i.e up by the water tanks and how hazard

3271
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:18,000
study

3272
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,639
applies to

3273
02:16:20,639 --> 02:16:23,280
a developer

3274
02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:26,960
uh receiving permission to develop a

3275
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:30,159
certain portion of land, i.e. northern

3276
02:16:30,159 --> 02:16:34,870
slopes above the water tanks.

3277
02:16:34,880 --> 02:16:37,679
It isn't just homes that we're talking

3278
02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:38,880
about. But we're talking about

3279
02:16:38,880 --> 02:16:42,160
city-owned property

3280
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:43,439
and we're talking

3281
02:16:43,439 --> 02:16:45,200
>> hazard study is only required if a

3282
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,840
structure is about to be

3283
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:51,040
>> constructed. Right? If no structure is

3284
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:53,040
being constructed,

3285
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:56,479
no study is required simply because that

3286
02:16:56,479 --> 02:16:58,800
information doesn't really

3287
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:01,599
>> so affect.

3288
02:17:01,599 --> 02:17:03,760
So the city did a hazard study, right?

3289
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:05,200
That's what's identified all these

3290
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:07,760
potential hazards. So the city has

3291
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:10,319
conducted a citywide hazard study. It

3292
02:17:10,319 --> 02:17:12,719
identified potential uh I think it was

3293
02:17:12,719 --> 02:17:15,599
debris flows or slides

3294
02:17:15,599 --> 02:17:18,639
>> right seismic

3295
02:17:18,639 --> 02:17:20,399
fault lines stuff like that. All these

3296
02:17:20,399 --> 02:17:23,359
have been identified when you this is

3297
02:17:23,359 --> 02:17:26,479
all done through uh mapping.

3298
02:17:26,479 --> 02:17:28,319
Um it was a geotech engineer that did

3299
02:17:28,319 --> 02:17:32,080
the study. And so from these identified

3300
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:34,319
hazards, then when it costs to build

3301
02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:36,319
something, you actually have to go

3302
02:17:36,319 --> 02:17:40,160
physically do a uh onsite at the

3303
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:43,040
location physical study, which is

3304
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:45,599
basically involves excavation. You do a

3305
02:17:45,599 --> 02:17:46,800
when you like for example, you do a

3306
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:48,559
fault study, you have to dig a trench

3307
02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:49,840
through the property and look for the

3308
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:50,559
fault.

3309
02:17:50,559 --> 02:17:53,120
>> Well, my neighbors had it done uh in

3310
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:56,160
terms of avalanche, so I'm familiar with

3311
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,000
what you're talking about.

3312
02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,599
Yeah, we just did on our tank property

3313
02:17:59,599 --> 02:18:01,280
for our new water tank we're looking at.

3314
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:04,000
We just had a fault study.

3315
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:06,160
>> Well, that's what I mean. Where is it in

3316
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:10,800
code that requires the city on city

3317
02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:14,800
property to have a hazard study done? It

3318
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:16,719
isn't a home that somebody's building

3319
02:18:16,719 --> 02:18:18,880
there. it's city-owned property with a

3320
02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:21,760
structure on it or the potential of

3321
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:24,880
somebody receiving planning permission

3322
02:18:24,880 --> 02:18:28,800
to have a development put in. Do they

3323
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:31,439
have to have a hazard study if they're

3324
02:18:31,439 --> 02:18:34,719
in that mapped area prior to getting

3325
02:18:34,719 --> 02:18:37,519
planning permission approval to give

3326
02:18:37,519 --> 02:18:40,399
planning the information that they need

3327
02:18:40,399 --> 02:18:44,080
to determine if this could possibly be a

3328
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:45,840
big hazard?

3329
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:46,160
So

3330
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:48,479
>> that's all I'm asking or not asking but

3331
02:18:48,479 --> 02:18:50,160
commenting on

3332
02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:52,319
>> because 10.5e

3333
02:18:52,319 --> 02:18:54,960
is just homes.

3334
02:18:54,960 --> 02:18:58,000
>> Yeah, Sherry, take a look at uh

3335
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:01,439
municipal code 11.9.3

3336
02:19:01,439 --> 02:19:03,439
and it'll cover all that for you.

3337
02:19:03,439 --> 02:19:06,399
>> Okay, sweet. Thank you.

3338
02:19:06,399 --> 02:19:09,280
>> Perfect. Thank you, Sherry.

3339
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:13,200
>> Okay. Um is there anybody else, Bucky?

3340
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:13,599
>> No.

3341
02:19:13,599 --> 02:19:15,840
>> You sure? said enough tonight.

3342
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:17,359
>> Okay.

3343
02:19:17,359 --> 02:19:17,679
>> Wonderful.

3344
02:19:17,679 --> 02:19:19,760
>> Didn't say anything.

3345
02:19:19,760 --> 02:19:22,240
>> He said something about northern slopes.

3346
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:24,479
Um, wonderful. Then we will close close

3347
02:19:24,479 --> 02:19:26,639
the public comment. Um, also for the

3348
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:30,800
record, I did I I failed to mention that

3349
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:32,960
in person we have Council Member John's,

3350
02:19:32,960 --> 02:19:36,160
Council Member Lunt, and myself, Mayor

3351
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:39,519
Hillyard. And then online we have uh

3352
02:19:39,519 --> 02:19:41,200
Council Member Hutchkins, Council Member

3353
02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:44,080
Malovich, and excused is Council Member

3354
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:47,200
Rooden. Um so we will now move to the

3355
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:50,319
consent agenda. Um on the consent

3356
02:19:50,319 --> 02:19:53,439
agenda, we have items 21 and 22. That is

3357
02:19:53,439 --> 02:19:56,560
the minutes for the June 9th meeting as

3358
02:19:56,560 --> 02:19:59,520
well as the special city council meeting

3359
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:03,120
where we spoke about the um certified

3360
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:07,040
tax rate for June 16th.

3361
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:09,680
So I will then accept a motion for

3362
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:11,680
either both for the entire consent

3363
02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:13,920
agenda or each individually if anybody

3364
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:25,030
has any issues with either of them.

3365
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:26,880
» We can not

3366
02:20:26,880 --> 02:20:28,640
>> I will make a motion and that we approve

3367
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:30,960
the entire consent agenda.

3368
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:33,040
>> Okay. I have a motion by council member

3369
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:36,389
L.

3370
02:20:36,399 --> 02:20:37,920
I'll second it.

3371
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:40,479
>> Council member Hutchings with a second.

3372
02:20:40,479 --> 02:20:40,960
Um,

3373
02:20:40,960 --> 02:20:43,439
>> it made me sound nice.

3374
02:20:43,439 --> 02:20:44,640
>> What's that?

3375
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:46,880
>> It made me sound nice again.

3376
02:20:46,880 --> 02:20:49,359
>> Oh, perfect. Okay. Council member

3377
02:20:49,359 --> 02:20:50,720
Hutchkins.

3378
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:51,840
>> Yes.

3379
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:54,160
>> Council member Malovich.

3380
02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:55,200
>> Yes.

3381
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:56,560
>> Council member Lund.

3382
02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:56,960
>> Yes.

3383
02:20:56,960 --> 02:20:58,160
>> Council member Jones.

3384
02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:59,439
>> Yes.

3385
02:20:59,439 --> 02:21:03,840
>> Okay. Um, consent agenda passes. Um, now

3386
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:05,840
moving on to the business. Motion to

3387
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:08,960
approve the May 2027 financials and

3388
02:21:08,960 --> 02:21:10,240
check dispersements.

3389
02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:11,600
>> I'll make a motion.

3390
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:15,680
>> Council member John's with a motion.

3391
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:19,349
Do I have a second?

3392
02:21:19,359 --> 02:21:20,960
» I'll second it.

3393
02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:23,359
>> Council member Hutchkins with a second.

3394
02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:26,000
Uh, Council Member Johns.

3395
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:28,080
Council member Malovich.

3396
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:29,120
>> Yes.

3397
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:31,120
>> Council member Hutchings.

3398
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:32,560
>> Yes.

3399
02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:34,080
Council member Lent.

3400
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:35,680
>> Yes. I'm

3401
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:38,160
>> impressed. You got that. That motion

3402
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:39,840
passes.

3403
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:43,040
>> Uh, ordinance 2026-12

3404
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:47,760
vacationing a portion of Eagle's Nest.

3405
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:50,000
>> Um, I'll make a motion on that as well.

3406
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:54,240
>> Council member Jones with a motion.

3407
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:54,399
Do

3408
02:21:54,399 --> 02:21:55,760
>> I have a second?

3409
02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:58,160
>> I'll second it.

3410
02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:01,040
>> With a second.

3411
02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:02,640
Council member Lent,

3412
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:03,280
>> yes.

3413
02:22:03,280 --> 02:22:05,040
>> Council member Hutchkins,

3414
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:06,000
>> yes.

3415
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:08,640
>> Council member Malovich,

3416
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:09,520
>> yes.

3417
02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:10,800
>> Council member John's,

3418
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:12,160
>> yes.

3419
02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:14,960
>> Uh, that ordinance passes. Um, ordinance

3420
02:22:14,960 --> 02:22:16,880
2026-13

3421
02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:20,640
amending the 2026 fiscal year budget.

3422
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:22,240
>> You wanted to make some changes, you

3423
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:23,040
said.

3424
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:28,319
>> Yes. Um, I would recommend um a motion

3425
02:22:28,319 --> 02:22:30,479
for

3426
02:22:30,479 --> 02:22:32,720
an adjustment

3427
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:35,040
of

3428
02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:37,600
the public safety

3429
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:40,319
being added. And I'll I'll recommend

3430
02:22:40,319 --> 02:22:45,760
that we pull uh $5,000 from the general

3431
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:48,319
government fund from the administrative

3432
02:22:48,319 --> 02:22:50,160
line item

3433
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:55,040
um and add it to the fire budget

3434
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:58,880
um of $5,000 which will then give us a b

3435
02:22:58,880 --> 02:23:02,880
a buffer from an audit standpoint

3436
02:23:02,880 --> 02:23:05,680
uh to decrease that percentage so that

3437
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:08,080
we are under the 100% for total public

3438
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:09,840
safety.

3439
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:11,840
That would be my recommendation of a

3440
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:17,030
motion if possible.

3441
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:18,960
» Okay.

3442
02:23:18,960 --> 02:23:21,439
So, do we need to revisit that or

3443
02:23:21,439 --> 02:23:24,560
approve with your notes?

3444
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:26,160
>> Can they do either

3445
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:28,720
>> recommendation or you can revisit it?

3446
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:32,399
Um, just a real quick thing. Total

3447
02:23:32,399 --> 02:23:36,080
public safety is at 80.78%.

3448
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:39,840
For the document I have here,

3449
02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:50,389
I am at 100.43%.

3450
02:23:50,399 --> 02:23:53,359
» Gave you earlier today.

3451
02:23:53,359 --> 02:23:56,160
>> This is the one that was on my desk in

3452
02:23:56,160 --> 02:24:00,150
my packet.

3453
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:03,200
» Do you have the time on that one?

3454
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:07,030
>> I don't.

3455
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:08,960
What does Popus say? Do you can pull

3456
02:24:08,960 --> 02:24:10,399
that up?

3457
02:24:10,399 --> 02:24:12,479
>> This isn't

3458
02:24:12,479 --> 02:24:17,040
>> Oh, this thing. This is the May 2026

3459
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:18,399
financials.

3460
02:24:18,399 --> 02:24:22,710
>> Just ignore me, people.

3461
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:24,479
» I apologize. I'm looking at the wrong

3462
02:24:24,479 --> 02:24:27,439
document here.

3463
02:24:27,439 --> 02:24:33,030
>> Okay. Then if you're saying we are under

3464
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:36,240
» say we should be for public

3465
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:39,600
>> I was confused.

3466
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:42,160
>> So there there are not recommended

3467
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:44,640
changes. I mean what I saw in it I'm

3468
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:48,560
prepared to make a motion to approve. So

3469
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:52,399
>> if if if Jody is saying we're good um

3470
02:24:52,399 --> 02:24:54,160
then I'm feeling good about it. I've I

3471
02:24:54,160 --> 02:25:01,830
stare at way too many numbers.

3472
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:04,000
So, I'll accept a motion if you

3473
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:06,560
>> that gave me three. So,

3474
02:25:06,560 --> 02:25:08,319
>> we're good on that one. Okay, then we're

3475
02:25:08,319 --> 02:25:12,240
good. We did balance it all out.

3476
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:13,600
>> I'm just over here looking like an

3477
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:14,560
idiot. That's all.

3478
02:25:14,560 --> 02:25:16,640
>> No, you're good.

3479
02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:18,399
>> No, you just had the wrong document.

3480
02:25:18,399 --> 02:25:22,000
That's all. It's a lot of documents.

3481
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:25,600
>> Perfect. Okay, then. So, you're you've

3482
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:28,240
>> Yeah, I'll make a a motion.

3483
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,160
>> Okay. I have a motion by Council Member

3484
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:31,520
John's.

3485
02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:32,240
>> Do I have a second?

3486
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:33,120
>> Second.

3487
02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:35,600
>> Council member Malovich.

3488
02:25:35,600 --> 02:25:38,800
>> Um, Council Member Hutchings,

3489
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:39,600
>> yes.

3490
02:25:39,600 --> 02:25:41,840
>> Council member Malovich,

3491
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:42,640
>> yes.

3492
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:44,000
>> Council member Lunt,

3493
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:44,479
>> yes.

3494
02:25:44,479 --> 02:25:45,600
>> Council member Johns,

3495
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:46,560
>> yes.

3496
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:48,720
>> Okay. Thank you. That motion passes.

3497
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:51,600
That ordinance passes. Motion to approve

3498
02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:54,319
um the mayor to sign the contract with

3499
02:25:54,319 --> 02:25:58,000
Larsson Company for auditing services.

3500
02:25:58,000 --> 02:25:59,840
I would recommend we table that.

3501
02:25:59,840 --> 02:26:00,960
>> Yeah. I thought we were going to table

3502
02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:02,240
it.

3503
02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:03,760
>> Okay.

3504
02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:06,950
>> Table.

3505
02:26:06,960 --> 02:26:08,800
» Okay. And we need to I believe table it

3506
02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:11,280
to a specific date which I would

3507
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,840
recommend is July 14th. It won't be till

3508
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:15,359
August because we'll have to put it our

3509
02:26:15,359 --> 02:26:17,359
to RFP and that'll have to be out there

3510
02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:20,319
for

3511
02:26:20,319 --> 02:26:23,520
I think a minimum of 21 to 30 days. I'm

3512
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:27,359
going to have to check really fast.

3513
02:26:27,359 --> 02:26:28,800
>> Okay.

3514
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:30,640
>> So,

3515
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:30,960
yeah,

3516
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:33,359
>> table it to August 11th.

3517
02:26:33,359 --> 02:26:36,319
>> I think we would find to table it to the

3518
02:26:36,319 --> 02:26:39,520
August 11th meeting and then is looking

3519
02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:42,080
at potentially being here.

3520
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:44,560
>> Perfect. Okay. Would that work?

3521
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:46,560
>> So move. So move.

3522
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:50,080
>> Okay. Um a move uh from Council Member

3523
02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:52,319
Hutchings.

3524
02:26:52,319 --> 02:26:53,040
>> The table.

3525
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:54,160
>> Second.

3526
02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:57,359
>> Okay. Council member Lunt with a second.

3527
02:26:57,359 --> 02:26:59,280
Um Council Member Johns.

3528
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:00,000
>> Yes.

3529
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:02,319
>> Council member Malovich.

3530
02:27:02,319 --> 02:27:03,120
>> Yes.

3531
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:04,960
>> Council member Hutchkins.

3532
02:27:04,960 --> 02:27:05,760
>> Yes.

3533
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:06,880
>> Council member Lent.

3534
02:27:06,880 --> 02:27:07,520
>> Yes.

3535
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:10,240
>> Okay. We've tabled that to August 11th.

3536
02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:13,439
Uh, resolution 2026-41

3537
02:27:13,439 --> 02:27:14,960
adopting the Woodland Hills general

3538
02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:17,200
plan.

3539
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:18,640
>> A motion.

3540
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:22,479
>> Council member Malovich with a motion.

3541
02:27:22,479 --> 02:27:23,200
>> I'll second.

3542
02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:25,439
>> Council member Jones with a second.

3543
02:27:25,439 --> 02:27:26,880
Council member Jones.

3544
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:27,439
>> Yes.

3545
02:27:27,439 --> 02:27:29,680
>> Council member Malovich.

3546
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:30,479
>> Yes.

3547
02:27:30,479 --> 02:27:32,960
>> Council member Hutchings.

3548
02:27:32,960 --> 02:27:33,760
>> Yes.

3549
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:35,280
>> Council member Lund.

3550
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:36,319
>> Yes.

3551
02:27:36,319 --> 02:27:39,200
>> Okay. That resolution passes. A motion

3552
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:42,160
to adopt the Woodland Hills strategic

3553
02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:44,240
plan. Just the cover page.

3554
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:45,760
>> Just the cover page would be my

3555
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:46,800
recommendation

3556
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:48,479
>> because that'll be

3557
02:27:48,479 --> 02:27:50,000
>> public. Correct.

3558
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:52,560
>> I will I will make that motion to adopt

3559
02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:54,880
the strategic plan cover page as a

3560
02:27:54,880 --> 02:27:57,120
public document.

3561
02:27:57,120 --> 02:27:58,399
>> I have a motion from Council Member

3562
02:27:58,399 --> 02:27:59,120
Malovich.

3563
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:00,000
>> I'll second it.

3564
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:02,399
>> Council member Lunt with a second. Uh

3565
02:28:02,399 --> 02:28:03,760
Council Member Lunt.

3566
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:04,160
>> Yes.

3567
02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:06,479
>> Council member Hutchkins.

3568
02:28:06,479 --> 02:28:10,000
>> No. Council member Malovich.

3569
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:11,200
>> Yes.

3570
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:15,030
>> Council member John's.

3571
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:17,520
» Um.

3572
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:18,800
>> Yes.

3573
02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:22,880
>> Okay. That uh motion passes. Uh

3574
02:28:22,880 --> 02:28:25,120
resolution 2026-42

3575
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:28,080
amending the city's fee schedule.

3576
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:31,439
So, I'd like to make a motion that we

3577
02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:34,399
approve it with one change where we

3578
02:28:34,399 --> 02:28:37,439
change the sewer impact fees to read

3579
02:28:37,439 --> 02:28:38,800
something along the lines. It doesn't

3580
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:40,720
have to be exact, but I'm thinking

3581
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:46,150
actual cost charged by pace and city.

3582
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:47,680
» We don't have to keep updating it. Is

3583
02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:48,880
that why?

3584
02:28:48,880 --> 02:28:50,800
>> Correct. So, every time they change, we

3585
02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:52,240
can automatically change. we don't

3586
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:53,760
accidentally

3587
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:57,520
not get changed uh and and have to and

3588
02:28:57,520 --> 02:28:59,600
charge someone a lower fee and then we

3589
02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:02,000
have to cover it regardless of whatever

3590
02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:03,840
patient city charges we're going to get

3591
02:29:03,840 --> 02:29:08,389
that money from.

3592
02:29:08,399 --> 02:29:11,439
» Okay. So, I have a second.

3593
02:29:11,439 --> 02:29:14,000
>> I'll second that. So, I have a motion by

3594
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:16,640
council member Hutchkins uh with the

3595
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:21,760
amendment to uh change the sewer pack

3596
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:25,359
fees to be uh no longer an monetary

3597
02:29:25,359 --> 02:29:29,120
number but uh whatever pace city is

3598
02:29:29,120 --> 02:29:31,280
currently charging. Um and a second from

3599
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:32,880
council member Johns. Is that a correct

3600
02:29:32,880 --> 02:29:34,720
synopsis there, Council Member Hutchings

3601
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:36,080
of your motion?

3602
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:37,439
>> Yes.

3603
02:29:37,439 --> 02:29:39,600
>> Perfect. Okay. Council member Lent.

3604
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:42,800
>> Yes. Council member Malovich,

3605
02:29:42,800 --> 02:29:44,080
>> yes.

3606
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:45,920
>> Council member Hutchings,

3607
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:46,880
>> yes.

3608
02:29:46,880 --> 02:29:48,319
>> Council member Jones,

3609
02:29:48,319 --> 02:29:49,520
>> yes.

3610
02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:53,040
>> Okay, that resolution passes.

3611
02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:55,200
Ordinance 2026-14

3612
02:29:55,200 --> 02:30:03,750
amending city code 10-4-5E.

3613
02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:05,439
I wanted to clarify that, you know,

3614
02:30:05,439 --> 02:30:07,439
based on based on what Sherry was

3615
02:30:07,439 --> 02:30:09,920
talking about earlier, um, about any

3616
02:30:09,920 --> 02:30:12,399
structure or any development. Mayor, was

3617
02:30:12,399 --> 02:30:16,160
it was it um correct in you saying that

3618
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:19,040
those items are discussed in another

3619
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:22,000
section, not just in this particular

3620
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:25,760
section of code? And if so, then should

3621
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:28,880
we link the two to say, you know,

3622
02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:31,600
something um approving amending this

3623
02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:36,319
code and then also C

3624
02:30:36,319 --> 02:30:40,000
code whatever that um

3625
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,319
that so it clarifies it with people who

3626
02:30:42,319 --> 02:30:44,640
are looking it up that it could be any

3627
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:47,439
structure or any development based on

3628
02:30:47,439 --> 02:30:49,840
the criteria that the engineers will put

3629
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:53,349
into place.

3630
02:30:53,359 --> 02:30:55,600
in my opinion

3631
02:30:55,600 --> 02:30:59,520
as I've read um 11-9-3

3632
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:05,439
now Jody and told me that it's also 1192

3633
02:31:05,439 --> 02:31:08,880
um I believe all of our concerns are

3634
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:11,439
addressed satisfactory

3635
02:31:11,439 --> 02:31:14,000
within these three chapters and I don't

3636
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:16,640
think any linkage actually would do any

3637
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:18,720
benefit would only probably actually

3638
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:20,479
increase the complexity of our code

3639
02:31:20,479 --> 02:31:22,479
personally

3640
02:31:22,479 --> 02:31:26,790
Okay.

3641
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:28,479
» But I'm not a voting member, so do

3642
02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:33,750
whatever you guys feel you need to.

3643
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:35,439
» So,

3644
02:31:35,439 --> 02:31:37,120
with that being said, I'll accept a

3645
02:31:37,120 --> 02:31:44,710
motion.

3646
02:31:44,720 --> 02:31:46,560
» I'll make a motion.

3647
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:50,000
>> Council member Hutchings with a motion.

3648
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:51,520
Do I have a second?

3649
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:52,479
>> I'll second.

3650
02:31:52,479 --> 02:31:54,960
>> Council member Jones with a second.

3651
02:31:54,960 --> 02:31:56,640
>> Uh, Council Member Jones.

3652
02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:57,280
>> Yes.

3653
02:31:57,280 --> 02:31:59,359
>> Council member Hutchkins.

3654
02:31:59,359 --> 02:32:00,080
>> Yes.

3655
02:32:00,080 --> 02:32:02,880
>> Council member Malovich.

3656
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:04,000
>> Yes.

3657
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,520
>> Council member Lunt.

3658
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:07,040
>> Yes.

3659
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:10,240
>> Okay. That uh amendment passes. Uh

3660
02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:13,120
resolution 2026-43

3661
02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:15,200
appointing a mayor or a member not a

3662
02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:17,359
mayor appointing a member of the

3663
02:32:17,359 --> 02:32:20,080
planning commission. Um

3664
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:22,240
this is a full seated member of the

3665
02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:24,160
planning commission. This is uh the

3666
02:32:24,160 --> 02:32:27,439
final uh need we had there. Um my

3667
02:32:27,439 --> 02:32:31,680
proposal is uh a man by the name of Mike

3668
02:32:31,680 --> 02:32:35,040
Tingi. Um Brian and I were able to

3669
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:39,760
interview him. Um he has from our

3670
02:32:39,760 --> 02:32:41,760
interview he has exceptional qualities

3671
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:43,520
that I think will be a great asset to

3672
02:32:43,520 --> 02:32:45,680
the planning commission. uh council me

3673
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:49,359
or commissioner Francon's also um spoken

3674
02:32:49,359 --> 02:32:51,920
with him um and I believe I can speak

3675
02:32:51,920 --> 02:32:54,800
for the commissioner saying that he also

3676
02:32:54,800 --> 02:32:59,280
uh would approve this appointment.

3677
02:32:59,280 --> 02:33:02,000
>> How many people did um applied? I just

3678
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:03,359
wanted to know how many people applied

3679
02:33:03,359 --> 02:33:07,120
for that position that you interviewed.

3680
02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:09,520
>> It was four or five. What was it? One.

3681
02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:11,120
>> Okay.

3682
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:12,880
I'm just happy to see that we have

3683
02:33:12,880 --> 02:33:14,960
people who are interested in serving in

3684
02:33:14,960 --> 02:33:18,880
various capacities and so I I like that

3685
02:33:18,880 --> 02:33:21,280
there were that there's there were

3686
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:23,359
several. So, thank you.

3687
02:33:23,359 --> 02:33:26,080
>> And like I said in my video um for this

3688
02:33:26,080 --> 02:33:28,000
agenda,

3689
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:29,840
I think every single one of them would

3690
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:31,680
have brought something valuable to the

3691
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:34,000
planning commission. Um, in my

3692
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:36,319
consultation and and gaining counsel

3693
02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:38,479
from council member Hutchings,

3694
02:33:38,479 --> 02:33:41,760
personally, I feel that the two the

3695
02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:44,560
alternate and this commissioner um

3696
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:46,160
appointment, I believe these two would

3697
02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:48,800
bring the most value uh for our

3698
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:52,080
particular mix of commissioners.

3699
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:53,680
Um

3700
02:33:53,680 --> 02:33:56,560
but we had some great some great options

3701
02:33:56,560 --> 02:33:59,040
and candidates and the others that we

3702
02:33:59,040 --> 02:34:02,800
did not select um have been are helpful

3703
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:04,800
in the city and we really appreciate

3704
02:34:04,800 --> 02:34:06,399
everything that they currently do as

3705
02:34:06,399 --> 02:34:09,040
well. Do you have anything to add there

3706
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:11,359
coun or council member Hutchings?

3707
02:34:11,359 --> 02:34:15,040
>> No. Uh again, it was uh you know, it was

3708
02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:18,880
great being able to interview them and I I don't know if Wayne got to

3709
02:34:18,880 --> 02:34:20,560
interview all of them or just the ones

3710
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:23,040
that you and I had gone through, but um

3711
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:26,319
I believe this is our best pick for this

3712
02:34:26,319 --> 02:34:29,200
position. Um and I think he's going to

3713
02:34:29,200 --> 02:34:31,120
be a valuable asset to the planning

3714
02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:34,630
commission.

3715
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:38,240
» Okay, with that, I will accept a motion.

3716
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:41,040
>> Make a motion.

3717
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:42,240
One more thing. I noticed on the

3718
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:45,120
resolution it's effective June 9th if

3719
02:34:45,120 --> 02:34:47,200
we're approving it now. Is that still

3720
02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:48,479
true or

3721
02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:50,640
>> it'll be effective tonight.

3722
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:52,240
>> Yeah, we don't have another meeting

3723
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:55,359
until after

3724
02:34:55,359 --> 02:34:58,000
>> it was tabled last time.

3725
02:34:58,000 --> 02:34:59,840
>> So that's probably why it said that.

3726
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:02,000
>> Gotcha.

3727
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:03,840
But the content remains that

3728
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:05,520
>> it was on the schedule, but then there

3729
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,520
was one more person I think that I

3730
02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:09,200
remember that needed to be interviewed.

3731
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:11,520
Yes, this individual I was having

3732
02:35:11,520 --> 02:35:14,720
struggling uh scheduling issues. Not

3733
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:18,080
from him, from me. Um

3734
02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:19,680
and so that's why he was delayed.

3735
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:22,319
>> Gotcha. Okay.

3736
02:35:22,319 --> 02:35:23,760
>> Okay. So, I have a motion from Council

3737
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:26,000
Member Hutchings. Is that what I heard?

3738
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:26,800
>> I'll second it.

3739
02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:27,520
>> Yeah.

3740
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:29,280
>> Okay. And a second from Council Member

3741
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:31,280
Lunt. Uh Council Member Lunt.

3742
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:31,840
>> Yes.

3743
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:33,680
>> Council member Hutchkins.

3744
02:35:33,680 --> 02:35:34,640
>> Yes.

3745
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:37,200
>> Council member Balkovich.

3746
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:38,319
>> Yes.

3747
02:35:38,319 --> 02:35:41,439
Council member Jones. Okay. Thank you.

3748
02:35:41,439 --> 02:35:43,840
That resolution passes.

3749
02:35:43,840 --> 02:35:46,720
Um I believe that there is an update

3750
02:35:46,720 --> 02:35:49,359
that we could uh give you legally for

3751
02:35:49,359 --> 02:35:53,439
legal update uh in a close session if uh

3752
02:35:53,439 --> 02:35:55,280
I can get a motion for that.

3753
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:56,560
>> I'll make a motion.

3754
02:35:56,560 --> 02:35:59,040
>> I have a motion from council member

3755
02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:04,640
>> and a council council member. Second.

3756
02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:07,280
>> Okay. and then we are going to be headed

3757
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:10,880
into um close session. Sherry, thank you

3758
02:36:10,880 --> 02:36:13,200
so very much. We appreciate your input,

3759
02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:15,439
your thoughts, and your support.

3760
02:36:15,439 --> 02:36:17,760
>> Thank you,

3761
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:19,280
>> Mayor. Do we need a vote on that before

3762
02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:20,720
you stop the recording?

3763
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:23,439
>> Probably. Thank you, uh, Council Member

3764
02:36:23,439 --> 02:36:25,439
Jones.

3765
02:36:25,439 --> 02:36:28,000
>> Uh, Council Member Malovich,

3766
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:28,880
>> yes.

3767
02:36:28,880 --> 02:36:30,399
>> Council member Hutchings,

3768
02:36:30,399 --> 02:36:31,520
>> yes.

3769
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:32,720
>> Council member Lunt,

3770
02:36:32,720 --> 02:36:34,319
>> yes.

3771
02:36:34,319 --> 02:36:36,479
Thank you. Appreciate all of your

3772
02:36:36,479 --> 02:36:38,160
patience as I

3773
02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:41,439
>> What about me?

3774
02:36:41,439 --> 02:36:43,359
>> Okay, I'll accept a motion to adjurnn.

3775
02:36:43,359 --> 02:36:46,800
>> I'll make a motion. Second adjourn.

3776
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:50,080
>> Thank you everybody.