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it. Then you get what you want. Then you

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>> I would like to start uh the work

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session of our city council meeting for

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July 14th, 2026.

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>> Well, this is part of it. So, well,

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you're right. We'll start though with a

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public hearing. Uh, this is for a

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proposed revisions to the amended 2025

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2026 fiscal year budget.

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Do I have anybody? It doesn't look like

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I have anybody online.

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Do I have anybody here that is desiring

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Former council member Dorl,

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>> you're good.

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>> Thanks for being here, Dorl. Then we

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will close the public hearing and we'll

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move to the work session. Um we're going

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to start uh from you just you said Mike.

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>> Yeah. I will Josh and Mike

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>> pick this off and then run us through

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>> Okay. We're going to start with a

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training from our city insurance the

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Utah Local Government Trust.

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>> Okay. Do I need to like

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>> come and join us right here. Um if you

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>> You got you got to dance out there.

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>> Awesome. just state your name for the

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record um and then carry on.

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>> Sounds good. My name is Josh McCuel. I

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am the risk finance consultant from the

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Utah Local Government's Trust that is

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assigned to Utah County. Mike Stag is

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with me. Mike is your assigned risk

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manager, but he is also the risk manager

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um manager. He manages our risk

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management department, our loss

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prevention department. And I talked to

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the mayor last week about doing a

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training and we are the training that

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Mike is going to go over with you is is

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a popular training right now. It's much

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needed. Um he's been doing it with other

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entities as well. But before he gets

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started, I just wanted to do a quick

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introduction of the Utah Local

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Government's Trust. So we are what's

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known as a public agency insurance

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mutual. We were created under an

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interlocal. So there's lots of local

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government interlocals throughout the

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state and that's exactly what we are. So

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we are here to serve our members. Our

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members are they own the trust and each

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member has equity shareholder stake in

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the trust as well. So we are a

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government entity. Um we're not set up

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necessarily as a nonprofit but we are

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not out for profit. We are just designed

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to have reserves in place but also serve

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our membership and insurance is

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certainly one of the most important

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things that we do if not the most

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important but our bigger focus is on

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risk management. So that's kind of where

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we fit and one of the reasons that we

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have become very popular with cities. We

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ensure about 91% of the cities and towns

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across the state of Utah and we really value this relationship. Um we've

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done the insurance for Wooden Hills for

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we feel very good about your leadership

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team and we look forward to working with

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you guys probably a little bit more

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closely than we have in the past

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honestly. And um we're here to help you

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guys however you need it. But before I

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hooked up here. Hopefully, this will

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say we didn't have questions because we

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Government's Trust. Like Josh said, um I

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am the I'm the loss prevention manager

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there, but I'm also your assigned risk

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manager. So there's myself and and

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another gentleman, his name is Jason,

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who you saw on the screen there with the

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lots of hair. That's not me.

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all the way, you know, down south uh to

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the southeastern part of the state. And

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stuff that I'm happy to do for the

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council. I'm happy to do it for your uh your employees. Um, we have a

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lot of training that that we do. And

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responsibilities is is training,

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consultations, and uh risk visits and

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management risk management visits, that

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kind of stuff. Um, so if the council or

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the mayor is ever interested in things

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like that, you can let me know and I'm

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more than happy to to come and do some

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of this stuff for you. Um, but this one

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here is is one that that when Josh asked

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me to come and present, he asked, you

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know, what could we talk about? Um, and

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the mayor is, you know, some of this

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stuff is is really relevant right now,

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especially fraud and cyber security type

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things. So, I wanted to spend about 15

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things that we've seen and some of the

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things that we can do as public

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officials to make sure that we're as

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really matter? Well, because public

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government. Any kind of fraud within the

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organization is going to divert funds

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away from services and projects that you

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might want to do and accomplish. whether

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that's, you know, the fraud of money

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being siphoned out of your bank account

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right? And so we want to make sure that

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we're doing everything we can to to

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prevent fraud in our organizations. And

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that fraud is comes in all shapes and

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forms. Any kind of fraud though is going

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to is going to damage reputation. You

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most is any kind of fraud within an

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organization within a person is really

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going to damage that reputation and that

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reputation is going to linger for a long

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time. And really the biggest punishment

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it. The punishment is the process and

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going through and talking with lawyers

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and getting documentation and all that

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official is going through all of the all

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of the back and forth and all the

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headache that comes with fraud when it

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triangle. Now there's three parts to the

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fraud triangle. We have opportunity,

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pressure, and rational rationalization.

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opportunity. Really, this is an employee

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or a member of the public or somebody

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who because of a lack of controls, they

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have an opportunity to create something

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that couldn't be there before. senior

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management isn't watching. Whether

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that's a a department head that's not

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watching, a an individual, whether

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that's just a supervisor or a line level

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employee having perceived assurance that

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they can do this and never be caught or

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a council member do something and never

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be caught doing it because of the

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position that you're in. Um, other

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things that we look at is pressure.

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pressured because of financial pressure

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at home. They've got something going on

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that they need that they feel that they

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need. You know, I need to do this

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because I've got to provide for my

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family. I'm not making enough money and

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they're going to come take my house away

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because of poor decisions I've made or

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this that or the other thing. So, I've

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got to do something. So, I'm under

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immense pressure. Addiction is another

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one. And we're talking like addiction to

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gambling, addiction to purchasing big

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expensive items, things like that, or

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living outside of your means. I have a

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cousin of mine who unfortunately fell

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into what we what they called financial

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addiction. Um he was a he was an auditor

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for for Davis County. Um, and he would

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go on the weekends, unbeknownst to his

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wife, to anybody else, and head out to

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Wendover and just blow everything. Like

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drained his 401k and just blew a ton of

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money. And then he started to think, "Oh

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my gosh, I've got to make this back now.

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emptied our bank accounts and my 401k is

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dead, like I'm I'm toast." And so what

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some off the top at Davis County um and

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started to take a little bit off, take a

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little bit off, budge some numbers here

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a little bit, transfer some things

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around in his position as an auditor.

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thought, "Oh man, now I'm in real deep

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trouble because now if I get caught at

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work, I'm probably going to jail." So

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what's the next thing he did? Robbed a

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>> that is crazy. escalated quickly.

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banks, uh, one in Farmington and one in

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and then he got caught. Then he spent

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the next 12 years of his life in in a

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federal federal penitentiary because of

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aggravated robbery.

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feel that give opportunity. And when we

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present the opportunity to somebody who

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is having that pressure, that's

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especially when fraud can happen.

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>> The interest, right? It uses all these

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banking for 10 years and my boss used to

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say if you give somebody enough need,

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enough time and opportunity, they will

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steal from you.

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compounds the interest, right, it uses

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all these extra decimal places that just

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get rounded off. So we simplified the

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whole thing and we just we round them

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all down and just drop the remainder

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into an account that we opened.

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>> So you're stealing.

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>> Uh no, no, you don't understand. It's uh

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it's very complicated. It's uh it's it's

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aggregate. So I'm talking about

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fractions of a penny here. And uh over

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time they add up to a lot.

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>> Oh, okay. So, you're going to make a lot

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of money, right?

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>> Yeah.

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>> Right. It's not yours.

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>> Uh well, it it becomes ours.

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>> How is that not stealing?

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» How's that not stealing?

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Okay. Rationalization is then where we

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get to is I'll pay it back when I can.

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This isn't stealing. I deserve this. I

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deserve this pay raise. It's for a good

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reason. I'm gonna go and put food on my

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kids' table. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna

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pay my bills so my kids can have

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somewhere to live. I'm only going to do

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it once. I'm just going to do it one

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time and then I'm going to be done and

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then I'll pay it back later.

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That's that fraud triangle we we look

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at. And that's a lot of the

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instances that we see at the trust where

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we've seen fraud happen because there's

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been opportunities, there's been

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pressure and then they try and

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rationalize it away to say this is what

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I can do. Some common government fraud

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schemes that we've seen payroll

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manipulation, okay, procurement vendor

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fraud, expense reimbursements, misuse of

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assets, IT and data fraud. And these are

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all just little examples of things that

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we've seen at the trust of a fraud claim

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from within a city. And these are things

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that we want to want to avoid.

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» Utah is the fraud capital of the US.

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>> Do do you believe that?

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>> You think that's true?

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>> It's on the news. It must be. It must be

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because in Utah, in Utah, we're good

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people, right? We're we're good people

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here. You guys are good people.

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Council's good people. Mayor's good

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people. We work with good people. We're

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trusting people. Okay.

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>> That's what gets us.

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>> Exactly. Because sometimes we're a

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little bit dumb.

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We trust too much.

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>> I think that's probably shifted to

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either California or Minnesota.

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>> That's very true.

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>> Just just that's a little outdated. Just

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>> might have been the state that got

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caught the most.

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>> Think that got caught the most.

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>> But now, maybe not so much.

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>> Okay, because we think sometimes we're

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immune to this. We're never going to

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fall prey to this. People aren't going

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to take advantage of us. PT Barnum, this

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quotes attributed to PT Barnum, but

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really no one really knows where it came

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from. Says, "There's a sucker born every

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minute."

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We don't want to be the sucker. We don't

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want to be that sucker that's born every

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minute.

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>> Done. Step one, spoof his number so it

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looks like he's calling from inside the

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company and then call tech support.

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>> Hello. You there?

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>> Hello.

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>> Hi, this is Ken. How may I help you?

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>> I was wondering if uh you can uh take a

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look at a website I'm trying to get to.

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It's for a big customer thing I'm

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working on for Monday and uh I can't

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seem to get to the website from my

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computer.

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>> Sure. Uh what's website? I'll see if I

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can get to it.

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>> Thanks, man. I really appreciate the

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help. I mean, it could be a stupid

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thing. I'm I'm I'm really suck

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computers, but uh so it's uh it's it's www.servey.

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That's uh s urve vy-pro.com.

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» Yeah, I got a prompt to open. I just

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clicked open and I'm at the site now.

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>> Here's what the IT guy doesn't realize.

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By clicking that link, he's just given

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David full access to his computer.

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>> Whoa. Okay, that's weird. I just hit it

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and it works. It seems like it's working

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fine now. Awesome. I don't know what you

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did, man, but I really appreciate the

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help.

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>> Hey, no problem. That was easy.

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>> That was it.

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>> We're on his computer right now. You

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were able to take take over this this

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guy's computer within I would say like

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under two minutes.

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>> Under two minutes. Yeah. Under two

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minutes. Took over his entire computer.

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And and think of it as not just his

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computer, but it's pretty much a

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downfall of the entire company.

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>> In this case, the company was paying

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David to hack them.

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» People should worry about cyber

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security. We really should. We should

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worry about cyber security because you

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see just from that little clip how easy

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it was. two minutes for somebody to call

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and say, "Hey, I need you to do this for

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me. Click this link. Go to this website

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and take care of it for me so I can get

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into my systems."

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>> How easy was it? Yeah.

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>> Are you finding that there's an increase

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now that AI can duplicate a person's

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voice like any of ours?

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>> Yes.

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>> Um and then make a call and it would

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actually be our voice on there, but not

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us. So, how do you guys recommend that

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we would combat that? Not that it's

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happened to us personally yet that we

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know of, but how how are you seeing as

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risk management to help protect against

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those types of things?

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>> That is a fantastic question because we

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are seeing a lot of deep fake AI type

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things come coming through. Faking

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voices, faking even faces, right? How do

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you combat that? Well, it's being

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vigilant and it's trusting people but

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then verifying. Ronald Reagan said that,

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right? Trust but verify. And it's if

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something smells fishy, it probably is.

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If something looks a little strange, if

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this isn't out of the if this is out of

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the ordinary from Carrie to ask me to do

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something like this or to sh transfer

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this much money over for some gift

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cards, but don't tell anybody you're

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doing this because we want to be a

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surprise to the mayor. Okay. That's the

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kind of stuff. That's the kind of

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>> it's not your budget.

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>> We've seen that.

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>> Yeah,

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>> we've seen that happen. Can I I just

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want to make one point too. Your

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infrastructure isn't the only

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infrastructure you should be worried

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about, too. A lot of vendors that cities

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use. We've seen the vendors become

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compromised. And when the vendor becomes

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compromised, these hackers have access

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to their mail server. And then they can

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start following along between a

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conversation that someone at the city's

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having with the vendor and they can

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slide right in and say, "Hey, your first

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payment is due for this project that we

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were working on. can you please remit

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the payment to this account number? And

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so even though there is AI voice and all

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this different things, we strongly

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recommend that you have someone in the

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city that has a good relationship with

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the vendor and that you're building that

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relationship, you're becoming very

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familiar and that that person can then

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call to verify. So if you have somebody

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that can call and verify whoever the

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project managers or the vendor before

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any payments made, even if it you feel

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like it really is coming from them, that

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phone call will make the biggest

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difference. Yeah,

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>> because you can touch base with them and

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see there was about $1.2 million

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1.4 at a member in Utah County and it

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could have been completely avoided by

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one phone call.

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>> And what it was was just like Josh was

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saying and a contractor hacked a or

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excuse me, the bad guys hacked a

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contractor's email, called the city and

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said, "You owe us this money for this

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project that we haven't been paid for.

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just send it to this other account

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because obviously the other one's not

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working. And so without a question, they

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thought, "Oh, you know what? That work

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has been done. Let's send it."

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>> They knew right when the project was

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wrapping up because they were following

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the email thread.

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>> So yeah,

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>> and we should we should worry about

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cyber security, but it's usually much

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simpler than just cyber security.

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>> Let me I have a few questions for you.

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Could I get into any one of your

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buildings? Could I go right now?

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>> This is our building.

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>> Yes.

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>> Could I Could I get in this building?

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>> Yes.

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>> Yeah, I could. I could get in this

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building. Okay. I already have. Be

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honest. Because we can other member

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entities. I know where there's back

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doors that are propped open because it's

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hot in there and the public works worker

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doesn't want to be working in the

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sweltering heat and so they leave it

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propped open just a little bit. I can

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tell you one thing. When I pulled in

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today, I just wanted to see. I pulled

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along the road here and instead of

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turning in this park turning up this

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parking lot that's right here. I pulled

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in right here where this garage door is.

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That garage door was wide open. Nobody

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sitting there.

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>> It's easy to get in.

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>> Okay.

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>> I actually noticed that.

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>> We had a sniper waiting for

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>> just in case.

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>> I noticed actually.

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>> Did I get into one of your emails? Do

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you know how common of a name Mike is?

519
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You know how many times I've been copied

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on an email on an email thread to a

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vendor, to council members, to mayors

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that I shouldn't have been just because

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my name's Mike and they start typing in

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Mike in their email and it autofills an

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email in and there I am. I'm in this

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email thread that I never should have

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been in. Now I take those and I delete

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them or I let the council or the mayor,

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whoever copy me on that notes, hey, you

530
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got the wrong mic here. But if I'm a bad

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guy, want to do bad things, I can get

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into those emails super quick and all of

533
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a sudden, like Josh was saying, find

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myself on an email chain about a payment

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request that I could take advantage of.

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It's one of those things that we need to

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make sure that we're educating our

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employees and being especially prepared

539
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,960
for so that we don't become one of these

540
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,720
other one of these statistics that we're

541
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,559
talking about because that's called

542
00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:16,320
fraud.

543
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,160
These things are fraud. Could I go out

544
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,400
and steal one of your vehicles without

545
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,160
even trying? I wouldn't even need to

546
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,520
hotwire it.

547
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,120
>> Why?

548
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,440
>> Cuz the keys are in the visor.

549
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,880
>> Nope.

550
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,159
>> The keys don't even work.

551
00:20:30,159 --> 00:20:32,400
>> I'm from Arizona. No.

552
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,520
>> No, I couldn't.

553
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,960
>> I'm not from here. You can't steal my

554
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,360
car.

555
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,559
>> Oh, sorry.

556
00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:38,480
>> There is one down there. You're welcome

557
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,080
to.

558
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,080
>> We leave the keys.

559
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,919
>> We leave those. That's a purposeful

560
00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:45,600
thing.

561
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:52,070
It's got a big vacuum on the front.

562
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,000
» An investigation.

563
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,520
Someone stole more than $180,000

564
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,320
from the county. The county auditor says

565
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240
they checked building permit numbers and

566
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,120
their funds and found some weren't

567
00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,360
properly deposited. The state says a

568
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,240
former building department manager

569
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,960
admitted to stealing the cash. The state

570
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,039
auditor's office found a lot of flaws

571
00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:17,039
and weaknesses they say in the county's

572
00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,240
cash receding.

573
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,280
>> This stuff happens constantly here in the state.

574
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,799
Why? It's because sometimes leadership

575
00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,120
booties have blind spots. We over rely

576
00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:31,840
on trust. We trust. We're much too

577
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,000
trusting at times.

578
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,159
We have sometimes we have weak internal

579
00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:38,080
controls. We need to strengthen our

580
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,640
controls and make sure that our folks

581
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,400
are following the protocols that we need

582
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,440
to follow. We have poor followup or

583
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,280
there's no kind of whistleblower hotline

584
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,960
if we notice that something's going on

585
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,280
that shouldn't be. We don't have a way

586
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,360
for people to communicate. These are

587
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:55,600
just some of the very common ways that

588
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,320
we've seen fraud happen is because of

589
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,360
these blind spots. One of the other huge claims that we had at the trust,

590
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:06,799
which is a six-f figureure claim, um was

591
00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:11,200
there was a there was a council and they

592
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,400
were given an invoice.

593
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,679
And the uh the bad guys, they called up

594
00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:19,280
one of the council members and said,

595
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,120
"Hey, we need you to pay this invoice,

596
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,919
but instead of instead of um wire

597
00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:25,840
transferring it to us like like is in

598
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,760
your policies, we need you to cut a

599
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,720
check. can you cut us a check? Here's

600
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,240
the name it needs to be. Here's the

601
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,679
address to send it to and please just

602
00:22:33,679 --> 00:22:35,760
send it to us.

603
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,120
And it's in their policies to not do

604
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:42,240
that. It's in their policies

605
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,760
to not do it. And they said, "Well, you

606
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,960
know what? Just this one time so we can

607
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,039
get it taken care of. Let's do it." So

608
00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:50,080
they did it. Six figures out the window

609
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,080
that they never saw again.

610
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,600
>> That's just stupid. Who writes a check

611
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,720
for six figures,

612
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,880
>> right?

613
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,120
>> But it happened.

614
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,799
And these are things that we need to

615
00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,679
make sure that as as leadership we're

616
00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:06,720
not blind to. Always trust but verify.

617
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,159
Trust the employees that they're going

618
00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:11,360
to do the right thing. Trust the people

619
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,840
on the other end but always verify. Like

620
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,480
Josh said, have a personal relationship

621
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,320
with a vendor that if something smells

622
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,760
fishy, if something somebody's asking

623
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,679
you to do something that is outside of

624
00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:23,919
what's written in a contract, outside of

625
00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:26,640
what's out normal protocols for you and

626
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,520
your organization, make a phone call.

627
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,799
Don't send an email. Make a phone call.

628
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,280
Go on a visit. Don't send an email.

629
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,520
Don't even send a text message. Those

630
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,840
things can be intercepted super easy.

631
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,240
Make a phone call. go in person and talk

632
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,159
to somebody about it. Some other

633
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:46,159
detection strategies that we can use,

634
00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:48,640
segregation of duties, have people

635
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,559
responsible for different parts of

636
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,280
procurement, payment, things like that.

637
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,000
Check vendors, do audits, formal,

638
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,760
informal type of audits that you guys

639
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,320
can do as the council or or direct staff

640
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,720
members to do. One of the greatest

641
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,400
things we can do is complete the fraud

642
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,960
risk assessment. Um, the state fraud

643
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,640
risk assessment from the state auditor's

644
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,039
office is a great great tool for us to

645
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,360
use, especially for us as leadership and

646
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:14,960
you guys as executive leadership here at

647
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,400
the city to make sure that we have all

648
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,880
of our things in place to help us avoid

649
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
fraud. This fraud risk assessment is a

650
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,919
just an easy little questionnaire um

651
00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:27,440
that you can go on to the auditor's

652
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,200
website and make sure that you do. Have

653
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,360
you guys had a chance to do that?

654
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:32,799
>> Yes.

655
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:34,960
>> Excellent. It's a

656
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,279
>> excellent and that is one of the best

657
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:39,279
tools that we have available to us to

658
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,360
ensure that we have the segregation of

659
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,360
duties that we are doing the right

660
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,200
things to eliminate.

661
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,440
>> Okay.

662
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,520
>> And how safe people's passwords are.

663
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,279
What is one of your online passwords

664
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:50,080
currently?

665
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,400
>> It is my dog's name and the year I

666
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,440
graduated from high school.

667
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,400
>> Oh, what kind of dog do you have?

668
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,840
>> I have a 12pon.

669
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,720
>> And what's its name?

670
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,440
>> Jameson.

671
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,360
And where did you go to school?

672
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,960
>> Um, I went to school back in Greensburg,

673
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,600
Pennsylvania.

674
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600
>> What school? Uh, Hfield Area Senior High

675
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:03,840
School.

676
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,279
>> Oh. When did you graduate?

677
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:06,320
>> In 2009.

678
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,240
>> Oh, great.

679
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,159
>> It's like my cat's name and then just

680
00:25:10,159 --> 00:25:11,440
like a random number.

681
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,320
>> Okay.

682
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,600
>> You had this cat for a while?

683
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,279
>> Yeah. She's my childhood pet.

684
00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:16,720
>> A And what's her name?

685
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,919
>> Her name is Jolie.

686
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:18,480
>> Jolie.

687
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:18,960
>> Mhm.

688
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,640
>> So, like a password of yours would be

689
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,080
Jolie and then a number. Yeah.

690
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,279
>> Like number one.

691
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:24,880
>> Uh, like my birthday.

692
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,240
>> Oh. When is your birthday?

693
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,600
>> Uh, June 12th.

694
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,120
>> Oh, nice. What year were you born?

695
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,159
>> Uh, 95.

696
00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:36,720
>> Oh, great. So, Jolie 6 12 95. Got it.

697
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,559
>> Gemma

698
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:42,240
1 2 3 spelled G E M M A.

699
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720
>> Well, most of them are Italian.

700
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,760
>> Oh, beautiful.

701
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,640
>> Yeah. So, like

702
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,640
>> like what's a good Italian password?

703
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720
>> Uh, my grandma's name.

704
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,559
>> What's your grandma's name?

705
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:54,159
>> Uh, Maria.

706
00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:59,600
>> Maria. So, Maria is your password?

707
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,400
>> Oh, yeah. And now you know my password.

708
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,520
>> Oh yeah.

709
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240
>> Yeah.

710
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,679
>> That was hard to watch.

711
00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:11,200
>> That was hard, right?

712
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,159
>> That's the world we live in. I mean, it

713
00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:17,200
really is. And we've got to make sure

714
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000
that then what we have to do at the top

715
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,120
here in this group, we have to set the

716
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,200
tone. We have to set the tone with

717
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,000
strong ethics and make sure that it goes

718
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,880
from the top down. us as council members

719
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520
and from us as executive leadership, it

720
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760
works its way down all the way down to

721
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,400
the team so that everybody is aware of

722
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,559
the our expectations and the things that

723
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,240
we're doing here at the top to avoid

724
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,400
fraud. And we expect those same things

725
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,720
of the employees and the the the

726
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760
stewards of the city. Okay. Other

727
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,200
things, make sure you have a response

728
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,279
plan. So if there is fraud that happens

729
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,440
in your organization, investigate it

730
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,520
immediately. If something is happening

731
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000
that that's not right, follow your HR

732
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,760
and your legal process. Make sure you

733
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,720
have a good process and plan in place,

734
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,039
what to do if there's suspected fraud or

735
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,360
a cyber security type of breach.

736
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,440
Communicate openly about these things.

737
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Talk about it. Let the employees know

738
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,880
what's going on. Don't hide things. Be

739
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,679
upfront. Be transparent. and make sure

740
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:22,080
that you report any kind of fraud that

741
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,919
is going on because all that going to do

742
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:24,960
is it's going to strengthen your

743
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,320
policies and it's going to strengthen

744
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,640
the resolve of everybody there so that

745
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,320
we make sure that we are providing our

746
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,880
employees the best uh fraud protection

747
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,440
that we can. Okay, just a checklist for for you guys as elected officials

748
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,360
that I thought of. Ask about your fraud

749
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,960
risk assessment. You guys have it. Make

750
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,559
sure that you've reviewed it and you

751
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:44,480
know what it is. review your internal

752
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,679
control reports that that you require of your employees. What what do you

753
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:52,400
require stewards of the city do in order

754
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,640
to ensure that they're combating fraud

755
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,559
within their specific departments?

756
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:57,840
Ensure you have whistleblower

757
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,159
protections in place and an open door

758
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:02,720
policy where people and and employees

759
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,799
can come and let you know if they think

760
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,399
something is is going wrong, if

761
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,279
something is not up to the stuff. Okay.

762
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,600
Demands transparency. demand

763
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,360
transparency from your from your

764
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,120
different department heads and from your

765
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,159
stewards in the city to ensure that

766
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,240
fraud isn't happening and don't ever

767
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,559
bypass your processes. Whatever your

768
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,200
process is, if it is to always make sure

769
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,440
you write paper checks to your vendors,

770
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,360
then do that. If somebody asks you to do

771
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,200
a wire transfer and that's not your

772
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,960
protocols, you like just this one time

773
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,960
we'll do it to get them taken care of.

774
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Don't do that. follow your policies and

775
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,399
don't bypass those processes.

776
00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:48,320
We have seen like Josh said is just the

777
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,360
thing of not obeying and following the

778
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,960
policies. If we could just make one

779
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,799
phone call or just follow the simple

780
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,720
policy, we can make these things go

781
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,399
away. We don't end up with million

782
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:02,000
dollars lost or six figures lost because

783
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,440
somebody did something that they

784
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440
shouldn't have and took a shortcut and

785
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640
just made it a mistake that one time.

786
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Okay. Do you guys have any any

787
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520
questions? Any questions for me? Well,

788
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,320
I've got one thing. So next council

789
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,320
meeting just so you guys know and what

790
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,039
was on our agenda already is we do have

791
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:22,640
our auditor coming

792
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,720
>> to give us another training on what are

793
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,480
all of our processes what are our

794
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,520
controls what is the process by which we

795
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,240
operate here in the city. So plan on

796
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,480
that to so you guys better understand

797
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,440
what we do and how we do it. And and for

798
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,440
those of you who don't know, uh this

799
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,279
lovely lady in the beautiful yellow

800
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,399
shirt is Charlene. Um so we're excited

801
00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:48,320
to have her and she's also working on

802
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,039
our front uh our processes, our

803
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:54,159
controls, uh the separation of kind of

804
00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:56,480
the duties and powers and who can

805
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,080
authorize what. Um, and so we're we're

806
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
doing a lot of really great things

807
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,320
already down this path. So,

808
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:04,960
>> perfect.

809
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,559
>> Yeah, I I don't doubt that you already

810
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,240
are. Just keep going. Keep going on the

811
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,559
path. Know those policies. Set the tone

812
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,320
as leadership. It's great. It's great

813
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,320
that you're doing that.

814
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,000
>> And don't, you know, tell the reporter

815
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,679
on the street what your password is.

816
00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:22,710
>> Yeah.

817
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960
» Don't even click links for my IT

818
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
department.

819
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,799
ours or yours

820
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:31,679
>> my work. I don't even click a reminder

821
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:34,640
for training when in a reminder email. I

822
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,840
go straight to the source.

823
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,799
>> Yeah.

824
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:38,559
>> I'm entitled in escrow and we send

825
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,640
people we get wires all day every day.

826
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,120
So,

827
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,679
>> I'm sorry.

828
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:43,279
>> And what we send wire instructions, we

829
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:44,640
have to send them securely. Like we have

830
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760
a whole process um because we hear lots

831
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,679
of horror stories about people

832
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:53,679
>> intercepting wires. Anyway,

833
00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:56,000
>> yeah, like Ted was saying there, I'm

834
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,760
assuming you've all received multiple

835
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,440
emails lately

836
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,919
>> from quote unquote me

837
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,080
>> requesting some kind of stuff,

838
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,720
>> right?

839
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960
>> And we we learned that a long time ago.

840
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,679
Well, Dorl helped us learn that one. uh

841
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:11,919
is that uh you know when those emails

842
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:13,760
started coming asking for things and

843
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,240
they were from the mayor just mayor

844
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,840
>> make sure that you look at where it's

845
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000
coming from and you recognize it's not

846
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,520
the mayor's email

847
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,279
>> it's his name but not his not

848
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:24,799
>> not his email address

849
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,080
>> email address so

850
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,600
>> now the game is they just send them to

851
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,880
me and say sorry I'm not going to do

852
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,679
this for you

853
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,520
>> forward it to you

854
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440
>> but they say look for typos look for

855
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,399
spelling errors

856
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:38,320
>> look for typos spelling errors

857
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,080
>> unfamiliar email addresses.

858
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,399
>> Look for if it's if somebody's name is

859
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:44,559
spelled with an L instead of an L, it

860
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,559
has a number one.

861
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:46,880
>> Yeah.

862
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,440
>> Um because it looks exactly the same. Or

863
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360
an O is a zero and it looks almost the

864
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,559
same. Those are the little things that we pay attention to in emails

865
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,480
>> because all of our emails are online.

866
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Everybody

867
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,360
>> everybody knows them.

868
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,880
>> Yeah. What's funny though is it puts

869
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,559
pressure on us to not have a typo in our

870
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:09,519
email. Yes.

871
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:10,720
>> Or something wrong because you don't

872
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,559
want somebody for me because I have to

873
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,080
send stuff out to a lot of people. I

874
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,679
don't want them to think that I'm fraud.

875
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:16,559
>> Yes. Exactly.

876
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:17,760
>> So, I have to be extra careful.

877
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,120
>> You have to be extra vigilant with that,

878
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,600
right?

879
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,880
>> Yeah.

880
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,320
>> See, if I spelled everything right, then

881
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,789
they know it was it wasn't me.

882
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,480
» As long as you're consistent, Brian,

883
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,200
then we know

884
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,039
>> I'm an engineer. They expect it to be

885
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:34,960
as long as you're consistent.

886
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,399
>> Wonderful. Any other questions, you

887
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:38,480
guys?

888
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,399
>> No, I have I wrote down some questions,

889
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:42,159
but it sounds like we'll be asking those

890
00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:43,360
next meeting.

891
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,159
>> Yep. On how we operate? Hold those till

892
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:48,399
next week. Yes. Wait.

893
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,720
>> The state auditing standards have not

894
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760
been updated for years and years. And

895
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,519
there's things that you're talking about

896
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,399
in here, for example, internal controls

897
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:00,559
that they gloss over. Mhm. And

898
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:06,880
>> I know that they can't get in depth in a lot of areas, but you guys have any

899
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,919
interaction if you're sharing ensuring

900
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:14,240
as many as city municipality or

901
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,360
government municipalities as they are, I

902
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,200
would think that some of your input

903
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,399
would be valuable to to make some

904
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:26,159
changes maybe in delving a little bit

905
00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:30,159
more of the auditors into some of these

906
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:32,640
internal control issues and and other

907
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,159
matters.

908
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:37,360
Is there any correspondence between you

909
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,919
and them with any recommendations for

910
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:42,640
updating some of their standards to to

911
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,080
be more more in line with what is being

912
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,240
encountered in this day and age?

913
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,159
>> Yeah, I think Josh, you correct me if

914
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:52,960
I'm wrong. I think Steve, the CEO, is

915
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,559
actually doing a lot of that, right?

916
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:00,559
Yeah, SE steam works pretty closely with whoever the state auditor is. And

917
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:04,000
so the the fraud risk assessment, it's

918
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,880
high level, right? It's 30,000 ft and it

919
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
just talks about some of the some of the

920
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200
highle controls. That fraud risk

921
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,879
assessment came from the previous

922
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:14,639
auditor, not our current state auditor,

923
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,399
but the previous one. Um, and the the

924
00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:21,119
points assigned to there, they in our

925
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,200
opinion, you know, we don't know if

926
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,800
those the weight that they carry are as

927
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,960
important as maybe the cities value

928
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,879
them. I think that the single biggest

929
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:32,320
thing that's important in there is the

930
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,079
separation of duties, but they don't

931
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,560
assign a ton of points to that one. Um,

932
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,040
but we've got a new state auditor and we

933
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,480
are working more closely with them and

934
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,000
we try to do things in conjunction with

935
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,399
them so that our members are doing

936
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,000
things and and rolling out the latest

937
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,919
and greatest. Um, and I think this new

938
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:50,399
state auditor is trying to push some

939
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,480
more updates and has his own staff that

940
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,960
are going out and trying to do things. I

941
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,560
can't speak to exactly what some of

942
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040
those newer items are, but he is trying

943
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040
to build on what the last state auditor

944
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,079
did. Um, and we're so we do work

945
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,720
together and we share with them the

946
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,240
areas that we see their their

947
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,640
vulnerabilities because we know when

948
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,359
there's a claim. We know when there's an

949
00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:16,079
issue because the fact that we insure

950
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,880
about % of the cities and towns. So when

951
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,400
we see a weak point, we try to share

952
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,480
that so that we can sh up areas across

953
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960
the state. And Mike's team tries to do a

954
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,359
good job of educating as as new stuff

955
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:31,440
comes up as well. So

956
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,320
>> well, I know I'm professional that I've

957
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960
done some forensic auditing and I

958
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,760
there's there's all kinds of disclaimers

959
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960
in the state auditing process that we

960
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,720
we're not guaranteeing this, we're not

961
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,960
guaranteeing that. And I would think

962
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,320
that that would be helpful to to a a

963
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,240
city or any government entity to to have

964
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,040
that. I mean, that's why we're why that

965
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,760
auditing requirement is in place to help

966
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,720
the cities better far it out where there

967
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,440
may be issues and and I don't know that

968
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160
there's to me there there's a big hole

969
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160
there lacking. Well, and for what it's

970
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,160
worth, the the auditing firm that you

971
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,240
guys use directly, the private auditing

972
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,359
firm, I I think those guys do a lot of

973
00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:19,599
the heavy lifting. And so, while the

974
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:21,040
state auditors, they are certainly

975
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,560
trying to do a lot there, there's only

976
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,400
so much they can do because they've got

977
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,560
a certain amount of staff members and

978
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,960
there's a lot of entities in the state.

979
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
But but make sure that you are putting

980
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,640
your personal auditing firm to the task

981
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,240
and making sure that because they're the

982
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240
ones that we see that are catching

983
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:38,720
stuff.

984
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,760
>> Well, I I agree, but they're uh I don't

985
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,839
want to belabor a point, but they and

986
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:47,520
they're following the state guidelines,

987
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,760
but the state guidelines are often quite

988
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,520
weak and the things that they're

989
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,560
supposed to do.

990
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,480
>> Well, we just got an update. This was

991
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
last year. Um, and this is an update

992
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,119
that came from the state. Part of it is

993
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:00,880
it's legislative though. I don't want to

994
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,640
give the state auditor's office too much

995
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,560
credit, but um, they they shed up an

996
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,839
area that we thought was very

997
00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:10,079
vulnerable. There was a bonding

998
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,400
requirement for your treasure and and

999
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400
the normal fidelity bond was just what

1000
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,760
they required and they had a certain

1001
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,160
amount based on the amount of budget

1002
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,800
that your that your entity has. They now

1003
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,280
require that to be crime insurance. and

1004
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680
crime insurance is so much more robust

1005
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920
than a fidelity bond. And so we are

1006
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,760
seeing areas like that that are getting

1007
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,440
better where they're they're requiring

1008
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,400
more. And so we're happy to see that and

1009
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,480
we're right in line with them. All of

1010
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560
our members, we we've been given crime

1011
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200
to our members in lie of fidelity bond

1012
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,960
since 2016. We actually went to the

1013
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,400
money management council for the state

1014
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
of Utah and said, "Hey, we realize that

1015
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,880
you're requiring a bond, but a lot of

1016
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,800
our members have crime and it's better

1017
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
than a bond. So, can you make an

1018
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,800
adjustment to your rules so that we can

1019
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
also accept crime in lie of a bond?"

1020
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,480
Well, not only did they do that

1021
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,000
adjustment, but just a few short years

1022
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400
later, they said, "You're right. Crime

1023
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,480
is better. We're done with bonds." So,

1024
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,760
we're seeing some movement and some

1025
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,240
traction, but you know, it's government

1026
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,040
and it takes time. So, It just takes

1027
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,520
time.

1028
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,000
>> So

1029
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,440
>> yeah,

1030
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,079
>> in my professional life, I deal with

1031
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:19,839
insurance companies.

1032
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:22,720
>> Um, and the insurance companies have

1033
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,320
requirements for us in industry um to be

1034
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,040
insured.

1035
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,440
>> Sure.

1036
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,520
>> Right. F Global, that kind of thing,

1037
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,640
right? You're you're familiar with

1038
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,599
those.

1039
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,200
>> Um, do you have set standards that are

1040
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,800
above and beyond what the state

1041
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,320
requires? Because I'd rather the state

1042
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,200
stay the hell out of my business. As a

1043
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,760
city, I want to be as robust as we can,

1044
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,280
but I don't want to do something that

1045
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480
the state requires Salt Lake to do that

1046
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,160
they have to do differently to require

1047
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
me to do it. Right. I But are there are

1048
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,160
there standards that you set

1049
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,359
as as the insurer

1050
00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:02,079
of your members that that you say you

1051
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:03,440
must meet these even though they're

1052
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,359
above and beyond the state require?

1053
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:07,599
>> So from a crime standpoint, we are not

1054
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,920
the carrier for your crime policy. If

1055
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,599
you have a property policy with us, we

1056
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:13,760
purchase a crime policy for you and it's

1057
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,079
no additional charge. And that crime

1058
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,320
carrier, they have their own

1059
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,400
requirements that they set forth.

1060
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,320
>> Um, and more than anything that they

1061
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,920
just want to know that our members are

1062
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,480
doing something because so many entities

1063
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200
are doing nothing. And so by virtue of

1064
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,720
doing something, by having something in

1065
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,040
place, so their requirement is that this

1066
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,720
the fraud risk assessment or an

1067
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,560
equivalent of a fraud risk assessment.

1068
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,320
Sure. Now, I realize that's just state

1069
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,240
protection levels, right? But then we

1070
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,000
also at the Utah Local Government Trust

1071
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480
have policies that are on our own paper,

1072
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,800
liability, property, workers comp, auto,

1073
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,359
all those. And

1074
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:52,560
we we don't members are meeting all

1075
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,240
these different requirements as far as,

1076
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,560
you know, we don't have like a white

1077
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640
sheet that says what you need to do, but

1078
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,359
we do look very very closely at what

1079
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:02,880
protocols you have in place. We look

1080
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,880
very closely at your leadership. We look

1081
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,119
very closely at your loss history. We

1082
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,160
look closely at your risk management.

1083
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,240
>> Tailor fitting. Is that what you're saying? As as you as we come on,

1084
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,480
you're tailor fitting to make sure that

1085
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,160
we're meeting we don't have some hard

1086
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,119
>> We're selective.

1087
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:21,440
>> Okay.

1088
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680
>> Um we're selective. So for new members,

1089
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,320
um got a lot of members. For instance,

1090
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,680
we had a county member just a couple

1091
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,440
years ago that said, "We're just getting

1092
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,359
hammered in pricing. We'd love to join

1093
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:33,119
you guys. can you take a look at our

1094
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:34,880
programs and see if we're a good fit?

1095
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,640
They were not a good fit. We did not

1096
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,720
accept them. Um, we've had other members

1097
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,640
that have had leadership issues. Um,

1098
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,960
they've had issues with with consistent

1099
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,400
claims. They don't have a good safety

1100
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,760
culture. And it's very rare because

1101
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,880
usually our teams, my team and Mike's

1102
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,240
team can usually get with our members

1103
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,079
that are struggling and we can get

1104
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:57,680
programs in place and we can turn the

1105
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,440
corner and we can start working with

1106
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,200
their leadership. And generally

1107
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,359
speaking, we're very very successful in

1108
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:05,760
doing that. Yeah. But if we have a

1109
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,079
member that we're unable to work with,

1110
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:09,839
um it's rare. I've been at the trust for

1111
00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:11,920
18 years and I've only seen it twice.

1112
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,560
But we will not renew the account if we

1113
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,200
have to because

1114
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,240
>> And that's protection for

1115
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,839
>> Yeah. And that's protection for all. But

1116
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,160
I'm I'm also saying if you guys have

1117
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,160
additional standards beyond maybe what's

1118
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,640
what Wayne says is weak at the state

1119
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,119
level, um that would actually be

1120
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,760
protection for the whole trust, right?

1121
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,240
So,

1122
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,839
>> so that's kind of what I'm asking

1123
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:33,920
because when I when I deal if I switch

1124
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,640
from FM Global to another company and I

1125
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,880
end up spending millions of dollars to

1126
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,359
upgrade a plant to meet their their

1127
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:44,319
standards, right? Um, are you doing that

1128
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:47,280
for the other members? I mean, that to

1129
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,240
me as a you say member, it makes me feel

1130
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,400
like I'm I'm part of a whole, right? And

1131
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,040
so are you doing that to shore up what

1132
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,680
Wayne has pointed out as some weaknesses

1133
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,599
or other weaknesses in the state to make

1134
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,400
sure that us and other entities that are

1135
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,720
also being are also part of that that

1136
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:08,079
membership um meeting those standards.

1137
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:09,920
>> So we don't just to be candid with you

1138
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,359
we don't have a line in the sand that

1139
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:14,000
says if you do not do these specific

1140
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,960
items no membership of the trust. The

1141
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200
line in the sand has to do with

1142
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
performance and as we see it if you've

1143
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,920
got some big red flags those red flags

1144
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,520
can become a problem but we haven't

1145
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,960
wrote a prescriptive

1146
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,359
>> okay

1147
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:27,760
>> you know

1148
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,119
>> that's what I'm asking

1149
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:32,000
>> but we do have we do have a lot of

1150
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,839
programs in place that do incentivize

1151
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:36,480
our members to go above and beyond

1152
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,920
>> and we are being made aware of these

1153
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,839
things so that we can

1154
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:43,520
>> long as long as that's there and

1155
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,720
>> absolutely

1156
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,800
>> and those programs are very very

1157
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,040
successful and they drive the the safety

1158
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,920
and loss prevention culture at majority

1159
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,640
of our entities. Um I'll be candid with

1160
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,960
you as well. Utah is a little bit

1161
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,200
different of a mix than we see at other

1162
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,640
states and we're lucky for that. Housing

1163
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,440
authorities inside of it in California

1164
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680
and Nevada insurance companies don't

1165
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,680
want to touch them. We've got hot crack

1166
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,359
pipes that are starting fires. We've got

1167
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:15,680
disputes with residents. We've got a lot

1168
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,119
of people from from tribal Africa that are wanting to fight, you know,

1169
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,880
their other guy down the street. And

1170
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,319
we've even seen it here a little bit

1171
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:27,119
with Molotov cocktails. It's a problem.

1172
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,760
But in Utah, it's such a different a

1173
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,160
different um demographic generally

1174
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,119
speaking. And so I, you know, part of us

1175
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,319
is we're we're we benefit from that, but

1176
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,480
we also do take it to the next level.

1177
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,800
And we are very very intentional with

1178
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
who we allow into the pool. But then we

1179
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,079
also we just had a meeting on Friday

1180
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,680
where we have identified groups that are

1181
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,240
not getting in line with our programs.

1182
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:55,680
We have a lot of members. We have about

1183
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,839
650. We've identified six six groups

1184
00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:02,400
that we need to work very very closely

1185
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,040
with. We've got the data to show how

1186
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,400
their performance is and how they're

1187
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960
doing and what their culture is. um six

1188
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,319
is great out of 650, but it's still six.

1189
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,200
And so our efforts will be concentrated

1190
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,520
towards those six members and they will

1191
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,760
be put on a program and a plan to get

1192
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,839
them going in a different direction. And

1193
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:23,520
the issue, the biggest thing that stands

1194
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,319
out to us is frequency. Everyone is im

1195
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:27,760
is going to have a severity claim at

1196
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,359
some point. Every no one's immune from

1197
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:32,240
it, but frequency is our big red flag.

1198
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,920
That's where we can see where the issues

1199
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,640
lie

1200
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,319
>> and we can drill down on those very

1201
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:39,599
quickly. and we do. So, we're always we

1202
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,920
always got our our radar out. We're

1203
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,680
always looking to see where we need to

1204
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,599
put our attention and and um

1205
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,160
you know, we still pay claims. We pay

1206
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,079
lots of claims every year. But

1207
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,520
>> yeah, we don't have a lot of claims, but

1208
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,680
we have a big claim. And just so you

1209
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,160
guys know, you know, since for the last

1210
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,319
seven months or eight months, you know,

1211
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:05,119
Josh and I have been on the phone on

1212
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:06,640
average probably once a month.

1213
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,319
>> Yeah. Lots. And we've met we've met

1214
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:10,400
meetings in person and

1215
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,240
>> so just to make sure that we're doing

1216
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,720
things, you know, we're working on our

1217
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,000
processes on how do we file claims so

1218
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,760
that we're not footing bills that really

1219
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,920
should per our policy be going to the

1220
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,720
trust. um what processes do we need to

1221
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,480
have when something that could be a

1222
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,000
claim is in place and do our staff know

1223
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,280
which questions to ask, what things to

1224
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,240
say, what things to commit us to and

1225
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,560
what not to commit us to. So, we're

1226
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,839
working on those as well.

1227
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:41,680
>> And we want to applaud you for your

1228
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,520
efforts and as as a mountain community

1229
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,880
uh for fire protection.

1230
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,000
>> Oh, yeah. Um truly really that's another

1231
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,800
thing that we keep a close eye on and we

1232
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,119
wish everybody that lived up against the bench or above and beyond we're

1233
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:58,640
doing what you guys are doing.

1234
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,079
>> So we give you an A+ in that area and we

1235
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:03,920
may lean on you in the future to help

1236
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,839
other organizations achieve that same

1237
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:06,960
level. So

1238
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,359
>> Ted's always happy to help.

1239
00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:12,960
>> Will you repeat that please?

1240
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,640
>> Killing it. you know, because we've been

1241
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960
doing it for for such a long time, all

1242
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,280
of our residents are most all of our

1243
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,200
residents are on board, right? And that

1244
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,680
makes a big difference when when the

1245
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,880
community overall sees the benefit and

1246
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,960
that they take responsibility for their

1247
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,520
own property and then as a whole, then

1248
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,040
it becomes better. And then under the

1249
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,280
leadership of our fire department and

1250
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,400
our fire chief, TED there, um it helps

1251
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,000
um everyone feel a little bit more

1252
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,040
secure. Um the risk is still there, but

1253
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,920
At least the mitigation has been done.

1254
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,319
>> Well, we it makes us feel a lot better

1255
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:51,359
because there's a lot of exposure and in

1256
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:54,400
a community like this obviously. Um so

1257
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,000
we're glad you guys are doing you know

1258
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,520
the right things in that area.

1259
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,800
>> They're just patting themselves on the

1260
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,040
back back there.

1261
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,560
>> I think we've also there

1262
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,040
on a whole our residents are also

1263
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
extremely grateful for the way we have

1264
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,800
worked on the mitigation efforts. We've

1265
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,000
got a ways to go, which everybody does,

1266
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,720
but on a whole, we're really devoting as

1267
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,319
much as the resources we can to making

1268
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,079
preparations and movements towards

1269
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:26,880
mitigating our fire of exposure. So,

1270
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,800
>> well, here's to a successful monsoon

1271
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,240
season with lots of rain and minimal

1272
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:32,960
light.

1273
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,880
>> Perfect. Well, wonderful. Is there

1274
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,640
anything else, Steve?

1275
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,760
>> We're glad to have you.

1276
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,480
>> Yeah. They're gonna send us

1277
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,200
>> during his trans.

1278
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,560
>> He was on Zoom for a minute.

1279
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200
>> Brian's on too now

1280
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,640
>> presentation tonight. So

1281
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,640
>> wonderful. Okay, if there's anything

1282
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,000
else, gentlemen,

1283
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,880
>> thanks for coming.

1284
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,680
>> Yeah, thank you so much.

1285
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,800
>> Thanks for having us. Thanks for having

1286
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,520
us out.

1287
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,839
>> We appreciate it. Thank you.

1288
00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:03,280
>> I should have you teach me how to

1289
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,280
>> Okay. Um, we will move to the next one.

1290
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,920
That is crap.

1291
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,520
>> You're welcome to stay or you're welcome

1292
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,760
to get home to your families.

1293
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,800
>> Go to Richfield. We got to go to

1294
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,599
Richfield. Really?

1295
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:14,400
>> Drive safe.

1296
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,520
>> Yeah, I think I

1297
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,599
>> was going to say that's 10 driving home.

1298
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:18,640
>> An hour and a half.

1299
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,839
>> Yeah,

1300
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:21,920
>> that's not even the opposite way of

1301
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,160
home.

1302
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,599
>> We'll get there before we're done.

1303
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:24,880
>> Yeah.

1304
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,760
>> Thanks again.

1305
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,200
>> Hey, thank you guys. Thank you for

1306
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,440
coming.

1307
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,559
>> Okay, we're going to move to number

1308
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,480
three. This is the discussion for the

1309
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,240
proposed resolution 2026-44

1310
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,400
approving the ratifying the year-end

1311
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,480
budgetary and accounting adjustments for

1312
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,920
the 2025 2026 fiscal year.

1313
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,520
>> And what's really cool

1314
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,280
>> number three? I'm right.

1315
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,040
>> Is that's what I said.

1316
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,480
>> Did I say two? Three.

1317
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,440
>> No, you said three.

1318
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,640
>> Okay. Just making sure.

1319
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,800
>> We get to hear all this from Charlene.

1320
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,200
>> Yes, you do. You know that couldn't have

1321
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,319
been a better segment into what my job

1322
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:01,839
you all just hired me to do

1323
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:05,359
>> is work on internal controls. I have 40

1324
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,920
years of experience

1325
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,400
and and this is when you say yeah you

1326
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
look like you started when you were 10.

1327
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,319
But

1328
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:16,480
um in working with city governments,

1329
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,240
government entities, all fund

1330
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,319
accounting, internal controls, I have

1331
00:49:20,319 --> 00:49:24,880
been audited 92 times for internal

1332
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,880
controls and have passed every single

1333
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,119
one of them. And I have been working

1334
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,760
with the mayor and with Lori and Jod.

1335
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,599
We've already started to put things in

1336
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,880
place. Uh Mr. Hatterly of the auditor's

1337
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,240
office and I have had several

1338
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,880
conversations and we have a list of

1339
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,559
internal controls that we will be

1340
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:46,160
putting forth uh with the mayor. I am so

1341
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,359
honored, privileged to work with you and

1342
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:51,440
excited and I can't tell you how

1343
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,000
wonderful both Lori and Jod have been to

1344
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,160
work with. They have just been welcomed

1345
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,319
me with open arms and I appreciate that

1346
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:02,720
immensely. But a lot of your concerns

1347
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,800
about internal controls will be

1348
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,200
addressed within the next six months

1349
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,359
because not only will they be a part of

1350
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:12,240
it but so will I and that will create

1351
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,119
it. I've also met with the Polaris the

1352
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,280
gentleman over the Polaris software and

1353
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,520
he will be taking I will be taking over

1354
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,400
just the security piece of it and then

1355
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,680
we will be dividing these

1356
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,760
responsibilities out so that everybody

1357
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,559
sleeps well at night and this this

1358
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,599
organization and this city is protected.

1359
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:36,160
All right. Uh the item before you this

1360
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,240
evening, and I have been to lots of city

1361
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,319
council meetings and brutes,

1362
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:41,920
>> so thank you for having me.

1363
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,040
>> So we don't scare you.

1364
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,920
>> Not at all.

1365
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,760
>> Okay. Good.

1366
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,640
>> Not at all. The item before you was

1367
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,119
simply a resolution and a housekeeping

1368
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,559
item. Um when you approved the budget,

1369
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:56,800
the last revised budget, there were a

1370
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,280
couple of uh items that needed to be

1371
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,240
fixed. Your transfers in and out need to

1372
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,599
balance.

1373
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,319
Okay. And there was a couple of numbers

1374
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:09,200
that didn't quite balance i.e. the

1375
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,720
transfer from a transfer from the CIP

1376
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,760
fund the the public work CIP fund number

1377
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,319
did not match the transfer to the

1378
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:20,559
general fund and so therefore that has

1379
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,760
been corrected. Also, uh there was a

1380
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,480
sale of a capital asset

1381
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,040
that uh was supposed to be transferred

1382
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,480
to the EMS CIP fund, but there was no

1383
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,599
transfer in in the EMS CIP fund. So, we

1384
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:37,760
needed to do that. The other thing that

1385
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,400
is also very important is that when you

1386
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,720
have budgetary resolutions, you need to

1387
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:46,400
identify a funding source. And so, uh,

1388
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,760
that is included in that budget that Jod

1389
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,079
put forth with the resolution. Those

1390
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,920
funding sources have been identified.

1391
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,599
They won't aren't necessarily called out

1392
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:58,319
in resolution. So, I would recommend

1393
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:00,480
that you all consider approving this

1394
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,160
budget. I have spoken with John

1395
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,440
Hatterly. He said that um it is fine to

1396
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,359
approve it this evening. Even though it

1397
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:09,839
did pertain to the appropriation for the

1398
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:12,800
FY2526 budget, it was fine. Let's go

1399
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,240
ahead and get it corrected. So, this is

1400
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,720
just a

1401
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:22,160
So can you explain to me uh when you say it needed to have a a a

1402
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,839
budget that it was tied to? So is

1403
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:28,240
>> we had kind of decided to to move away

1404
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:31,359
from our CIP funds

1405
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:34,000
>> and and do general fund and have a have

1406
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,839
a general fund. Now this is a little bit

1407
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:37,520
different because we sold the the

1408
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,000
firetruck with the intent of using part

1409
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,079
of that money to to get a new a new

1410
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,960
ambulance. Um,

1411
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,680
but it I mean it comes down to semantics

1412
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,240
unless it's a legal requirement um that

1413
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,319
we have a CIP fund. Um,

1414
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:53,040
>> it's not.

1415
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,240
>> So, again, I'm I'm fine I'm fine with

1416
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,079
it, but I just was kind of curious. Does

1417
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,079
it have to be a CIP fund or could we say

1418
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:01,440
we're going to put this money into the

1419
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,800
general fund and we're going to budget

1420
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,280
out of the

1421
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,160
>> for future? Yes. For the past, we just

1422
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:06,880
got to fix it.

1423
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
>> Yeah. And fixing fix. I just want to

1424
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,280
future. No, you can buy your ambulances

1425
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,040
and everything else out of your general

1426
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,520
fund because you have public safety in

1427
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,559
your general fund. Correct.

1428
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,480
>> You're just fine to do that. Okay.

1429
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,800
>> This is just simply like I said, and you

1430
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,640
do have to have a funding source, which

1431
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,880
oftentimes if you sell a capital asset,

1432
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,200
then that's your funding source. Um, in

1433
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,520
this particular one, we Lori and I

1434
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,480
simply tuck that away in saving for an

1435
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,160
ambulance.

1436
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,240
>> So, that's what we've got it

1437
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,079
>> is what it's there. Yeah. And that's

1438
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:39,040
exactly what it's

1439
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,359
>> for. Now, these transfers from what I

1440
00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:44,160
understand uh not necessarily have been

1441
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,680
done based on some discussions that

1442
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,760
you've had with bond counsel and some

1443
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,359
decisions that you have made in the

1444
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:51,040
past. So, they may or may not be done.

1445
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,559
We just simply need to make everything

1446
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:52,960
pass.

1447
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,559
>> Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. It makes

1448
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:56,559
sense the the way it's put together, but

1449
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,559
I just wanted to know going forward

1450
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,800
because we've talked about getting out

1451
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,119
of saving for things and actually taking

1452
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,280
loans for things because we we feel at

1453
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,240
this point that it's it's financially

1454
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,760
better to do that.

1455
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,680
>> That's absolutely just fine.

1456
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,319
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.

1457
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:16,160
>> Yeah. And as Charlene, you know, she's

1458
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,359
getting her feet wet. She's

1459
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:18,800
understanding exactly how we're

1460
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,319
operating versus how others have. Um,

1461
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:24,000
you know, we're we're going to dive back

1462
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,800
into that conversation and and take a

1463
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,680
look and and and figure it out cuz we

1464
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,760
did have a plan, you know, as you

1465
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,800
probably remember, to pull those monies

1466
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
out of savings to then potentially pay

1467
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,599
off that one bond to increase our

1468
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:42,800
ability to cover those. and it ended up

1469
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,920
being that the bond that we are looking

1470
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,000
at which is a future discussion item for

1471
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,119
tonight I believe if I remember yep um

1472
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,440
number six so we'll talk about that

1473
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,240
there more um but we ended up deciding

1474
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,079
to keep the bond we were going to pay

1475
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,079
off and so we ended up putting those

1476
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,119
funds back in

1477
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:04,160
>> and and so we get less we take a

1478
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,720
>> so as we look at those budgets going

1479
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,920
forward we'll be able to to kind of get

1480
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,920
us back to where we wanted to with

1481
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,880
getting all the proper eyes dotted and

1482
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,710
te's crossed.

1483
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:19,920
» Perfect.

1484
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,359
>> Yeah. Do you have do you guys have any

1485
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:22,640
questions?

1486
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:22,960
>> No.

1487
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,079
>> I'm going to open it up a little bit

1488
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,960
beyond the agenda to a degree.

1489
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,720
>> This is the first time you guys have met

1490
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,680
Charlene if my memory serves me right.

1491
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,280
>> Charlene and I have spoken.

1492
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,000
>> Yes.

1493
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,280
>> Um they're they're they haven't made a a

1494
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,559
long-term decision. They made a

1495
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:40,400
short-term decision and so your name's

1496
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,760
still in

1497
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,680
>> for that for Mount Nebo.

1498
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,240
>> For what?

1499
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:45,599
>> Mount Nebo. I talked to you about Mount

1500
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:46,160
Nebo.

1501
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,359
>> Yes, she did. Yes.

1502
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:49,119
>> Suma. One of the two. I can't remember.

1503
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:49,760
>> Yes.

1504
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,760
>> So, they made a short-term decision for

1505
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,280
now and then we're going to get

1506
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,559
>> Okay. Just to give you a little

1507
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:56,480
background, maybe if you've got just a

1508
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,400
couple of minutes. I have worked for the

1509
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,160
South Utah Valley Solid Waste District

1510
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,200
for 35 years. I'm a stayer. I've only

1511
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,160
had five jobs in the last four years. I

1512
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,920
was the accounting manager for Provo

1513
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,680
City for 12 years and the finance

1514
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,680
director for South Jordan and Draper

1515
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,440
City for eight. And so, um, I I do have

1516
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,280
a little bit of experience right now. I

1517
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,480
also have a full-time job. Um, I run an

1518
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,640
affordable housing executive director of

1519
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,799
an affordable housing organization, so I

1520
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:27,040
understand real estate extremely well.

1521
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,440
Um, when you said we wire transfer back

1522
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,640
and forth all the time. I I buy and sell

1523
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,319
hundreds of houses. I've got six

1524
00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:36,160
affordable housing projects going in the

1525
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,480
state of Utah right now. Um I am

1526
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,559
considering retiring in about five years

1527
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,720
and this is one of my jobs that I'd like

1528
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:44,880
to keep. My daughter told me, she says,

1529
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,319
"Oh, mom, does that mean you're going to

1530
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:50,480
retire and only work 40 hours a week?"

1531
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,680
>> Yeah, probably. So anyway, I am honored

1532
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,079
to work with all of you and thank you uh

1533
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,160
for having me.

1534
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,599
>> We're excited to have you.

1535
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,920
>> Yeah, thank you.

1536
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,160
Okay. So, I am going to stay while you

1537
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,559
possibly approve this.

1538
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:07,359
>> Perfect.

1539
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:09,040
>> Are you driving home tonight?

1540
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,720
>> No, I'm actually in Oram.

1541
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:11,359
>> Okay.

1542
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:12,400
>> Home is St. George.

1543
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,839
>> I know. That's why I was That's why I

1544
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:16,000
was asking if we needed to rush and get

1545
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,319
>> two nights. I'm always in Oram at our

1546
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:19,839
ORM office. So, I work Tuesday and

1547
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:22,160
Wednesday in ORM and then I drive back

1548
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,799
down and work um Thursday, Friday,

1549
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:27,359
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday somewhere

1550
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:31,280
else in the state or from my house.

1551
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,000
Exactly.

1552
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,119
>> What day you get off?

1553
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,839
>> I don't know. 2000 something. I don't

1554
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:39,440
usually

1555
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,000
sleeping.

1556
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,040
>> I am a widow. I will be I been a widow

1557
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,880
for three and a half years. And so

1558
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,599
between me and my two puppies, I have to

1559
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,160
have something to do. And this is this

1560
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,040
keeps me busy.

1561
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,839
>> Keeps you young,

1562
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:52,880
>> you know. It does. I think

1563
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,240
>> Keeps your brain sharp and

1564
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,160
>> Yeah. And you know Alzheimer's is not

1565
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,520
going to happen because my kids don't

1566
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,960
want to take care of me. So there you

1567
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,470
go.

1568
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,079
We are grateful to have you.

1569
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:05,760
>> So, thank you so much.

1570
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,280
>> So, and

1571
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,680
>> so just for your information, when

1572
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,319
you're able to join us here at council,

1573
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:14,799
um you know, we have kind of some some

1574
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:16,960
rules on how we operate within the

1575
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,319
council meeting.

1576
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:21,040
>> Um so, when the community is here, we

1577
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,480
don't have anybody from the community

1578
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,760
here except for, but he's pseudo

1579
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,559
community. Um

1580
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:31,359
I you know we try and restrict those

1581
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:33,359
comments that interrupt the flow of the

1582
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:36,240
meeting but as staff and you have

1583
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,400
something to input please feel free.

1584
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,200
>> Okay I will

1585
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,720
>> just like Wayne did earlier.

1586
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,040
>> For the most part though I have been to

1587
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,040
so many council meetings you noticed I

1588
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,599
was very quiet. I wanted to jump up and

1589
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:49,359
go you know you hired me for that. You

1590
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,760
know you hired me for that me for that

1591
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,119
too. But I do know protocol and and very

1592
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:56,799
much respect that. So,

1593
00:58:56,799 --> 00:58:58,480
>> but well, he's saying you can speak up

1594
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:58,880
on anything.

1595
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,680
>> That's what I'm saying.

1596
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,040
>> He's inviting you to speak up.

1597
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,559
>> For the most part, I'm very careful

1598
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:04,240
>> and and let me know when the fire hose

1599
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,240
gets down so I can start asking you

1600
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,280
question because I I I get pretty

1601
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,799
>> He's passionate.

1602
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:13,359
>> He dives in the weeds.

1603
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:15,119
>> That's cool. I love that. I I love to

1604
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:16,799
have discussions with the auditors. I

1605
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:19,280
mean, John and I made friends instantly

1606
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,880
and and it's been

1607
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,079
>> it's been it's been a joy to do this.

1608
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,079
Like I said, Lori's been extremely

1609
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:28,960
helpful, so has Jod in just helping me

1610
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,799
kind of get my feet on the ground, but I

1611
00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:32,559
was able to tear into the budget and

1612
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:36,000
dissect it and and pretty soon I feel

1613
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,760
like I will be comfortable to present

1614
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,240
you with financial statements

1615
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,680
at your meetings.

1616
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,520
>> Wonderful. Well, Charlene, thank you so

1617
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,000
much.

1618
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,599
>> Nice. Thank you.

1619
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,280
>> Okay, we are going to move to number

1620
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,000
four with our proposed auditing

1621
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,920
services. So this is on the agenda

1622
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,240
because we discussed this last council

1623
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,960
meeting about sending um our auditors to

1624
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,240
RFP. Um I then you know called each of

1625
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,240
you when after my discussion with um the

1626
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,920
auditor concerning the contract um and

1627
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,200
we I gained more insight there um as I

1628
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,599
discussed with each of you um and so we

1629
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:17,599
have decided not to go to RFP right now

1630
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:19,920
though we are going to send all of our

1631
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,520
professional services um to RFP in

1632
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,160
January. um if we sent it to RFP right

1633
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,640
now in kind of right at the beginning of

1634
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,839
the auditing uh season

1635
01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:34,319
uh probably wouldn't go so well for us.

1636
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:35,839
We might not have many because most

1637
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:39,359
people are already booked out. Also, the

1638
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:42,799
contract from uh our current auditors

1639
01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:45,359
was actually just a pricing model and

1640
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:48,400
not an engagement model. So, it was just

1641
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,000
saying if you go with us, this is what

1642
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,319
it will be costing wise for the next six

1643
01:00:52,319 --> 01:00:55,839
years. So, he's excited to to join in on

1644
01:00:55,839 --> 01:00:58,160
the RFP process in January. He thinks

1645
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,839
that's a great idea. He's actually set

1646
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:02,400
it into his calendar to email me and

1647
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,799
remind me that we are headed to audit or

1648
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:08,000
RFP. So, very impressed.

1649
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,760
>> I've done research on on the Larsson

1650
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,799
group and they're very well respected in

1651
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:19,839
what they do. Um, and I don't know that

1652
01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:22,559
I would want to change. I know they

1653
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,359
recommend it, but with the with what

1654
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:28,960
just as as part of my research, they are

1655
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,079
the best in the state

1656
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:35,520
um by leaps and bounds. And I am not

1657
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,520
afraid of audits and I think audits are

1658
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,240
a way for us to get better and always

1659
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,480
look for the best auditors when I do

1660
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,079
that. And I'm used to aerospace. I'm

1661
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:45,839
used to getting audited weekly,

1662
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:49,680
literally. Um, and

1663
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,400
I I I'm impressed with what I saw from I

1664
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,079
mean I I've looked at them before, but

1665
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:55,920
never looked at them as far as okay,

1666
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,599
let's dig into the company. Let's find

1667
01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:58,960
out what other people are thinking of

1668
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,880
them. Find out what other auditors are

1669
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,319
thinking of them. Find out what the

1670
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:04,559
state thinks of them. And everybody

1671
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,440
holds them as the gold standard in the

1672
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,640
state. So just as as as we're as we get

1673
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,960
into it once we do go to RFP that's

1674
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,799
something to think about that they are

1675
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:18,160
really really good.

1676
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,640
>> I think with that I think the company is

1677
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,000
really good. We've used them for a

1678
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,880
while. I think part of that maybe more

1679
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,160
external control then is not having the

1680
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,480
same person be our auditor from that

1681
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,280
company for too many years. Um we

1682
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:33,839
rotate.

1683
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:36,319
>> Yeah. They they rotate yearly yearly.

1684
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:38,079
And that's what I like because some

1685
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,640
others don't and that they have an

1686
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,720
account manager who's or auditor who's

1687
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,280
over you and they get comfortable. So

1688
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,680
knowing that they rotate every year is

1689
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,079
very is very reassuring to me that

1690
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,319
they're not just stuck with the same

1691
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:54,000
relationships because it's easy in a

1692
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,839
small town to build a trusting

1693
01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:58,079
relationship that may or may not be

1694
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,400
there. Well, I think that's why we were

1695
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,079
looking at that is because we didn't,

1696
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:04,960
you know, with our previous employee, we

1697
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:05,839
just wanted to make sure the

1698
01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:08,160
relationship wasn't too close.

1699
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,270
>> And so that's why we we're talking about

1700
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,039
clarify

1701
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:20,309
that

1702
01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:23,200
» you said all contracts.

1703
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,079
I thought our plan was to send all

1704
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:27,920
contracts to our professional

1705
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,599
>> all professional contracts.

1706
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:35,680
>> Sorry. For longer than a year.

1707
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,839
>> Yeah. And we just signed Charlene. So I

1708
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:39,039
don't know that we want to send that

1709
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:39,839
back out.

1710
01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:42,079
>> The professional services. So the ones

1711
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:43,680
I'm discussing, thank you for that

1712
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,520
request for clarification. most of our

1713
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,640
professional services.

1714
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,119
>> That'll be our engineering firm, that'll

1715
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:51,680
be our attorneys, that'll be our garbage

1716
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,160
services, and our auditing services. Did

1717
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,680
I miss any there?

1718
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,039
>> Those are those are accounts that are

1719
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:00,240
expiring.

1720
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,079
>> Uh those are accounts that we have not

1721
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,160
sent to RFP

1722
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,280
um as recently as we should.

1723
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,640
>> Okay.

1724
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,440
>> So, get them into that

1725
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,520
garbage

1726
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,799
to garbage needs to go as well. But it's

1727
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:18,160
only been a couple years.

1728
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,119
>> I think we're at four years.

1729
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:22,160
>> So, is that

1730
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,480
>> because it was when I first got to the

1731
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:25,920
council.

1732
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,240
>> So, is that a recommendation or is it a

1733
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,839
requirement? The RF

1734
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:32,480
>> uh it's a little of both.

1735
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,200
>> Okay.

1736
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,440
>> Um the requirement angle, I think some

1737
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,280
of them are coming up on that

1738
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,240
requirement. um like uh you know our

1739
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,920
engineers are coming up on that um our

1740
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,920
attorneys due to the fact that we have

1741
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,000
been legally engaged for such a long

1742
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,599
time we have not sent it to RFP though

1743
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:56,160
we should and so we're still going to do

1744
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,319
that.

1745
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:00,400
I mean, just just to clarify for the

1746
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,160
record, we we did all have that

1747
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,000
conversation individually with you and

1748
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,559
my my position on it is that yeah, with

1749
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:12,000
the change of our director of finance,

1750
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,079
shaking up to a new auditing firm would

1751
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:16,480
be a mistake for the city. So, keeping

1752
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,440
that consistency in place seems like the

1753
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,720
right idea.

1754
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,960
>> Yeah. Well, thank you.

1755
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,000
>> Okay. Anything else there you guys?

1756
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,440
Okay, then we'll move to number five.

1757
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,960
So, the review of the sponsorship

1758
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,799
agreement between Woodland Hills and

1759
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:34,319
Utah County for the America 250 funds.

1760
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:36,720
Um, so you guys have received that

1761
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,319
contract. Uh, it's in your packet. Um, I

1762
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:42,640
just need your guys's approval to sign

1763
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,359
it. Um, I have all of the receipts

1764
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:48,400
tabulated here. Um, they came in at

1765
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,920
around 1748.7.

1766
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,079
Um, so this agreement is for $1,500.

1767
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,640
Um, and so what that basically is

1768
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,720
covering, um, is for the the flags that

1769
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,039
we have purchased, for the lighting of

1770
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,960
the flags, um, for the banner, for the

1771
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,520
advertising of the America 250 potlucks,

1772
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,839
>> I think really helped get people there

1773
01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:15,440
>> 100%.

1774
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,839
We have two receipts from Costco for the

1775
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:22,799
hot dogs, buns, condiments, things of

1776
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:24,960
that nature, and then also for the root

1777
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,720
beer that was served. Um, and so it does

1778
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,200
exceed a little bit, which we knew it

1779
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,680
would. Um, I'm actually looking to

1780
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,640
potentially add into our next budget, so

1781
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,720
2028 budget. um

1782
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,880
we add to our stockpile of flags because

1783
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,880
I'd love to continue to do that as a

1784
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,599
ongoing tradition having them running up

1785
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:52,319
Wen Hills Drive and Summit Creek Drive

1786
01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:54,160
um to continue to increase those

1787
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:54,559
numbers.

1788
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,319
>> I would have liked to seen those stay up

1789
01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:57,839
all of July.

1790
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:00,160
>> They will be headed back out.

1791
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,240
>> So that's why the rebar is still there.

1792
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,400
>> You you pulled one on us there. remember

1793
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,680
you and your kids were going to be

1794
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,359
pulling those up every night and then

1795
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:09,200
you went. So that's where the extra

1796
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,280
money went. So you were being lazy.

1797
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,240
>> It is true.

1798
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,920
>> But then somebody went and stole one of

1799
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,359
our flags. Couple of our flags.

1800
01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:19,839
>> Somebody stole two of the flags which is

1801
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:22,960
I got so people want to know where Jod

1802
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,359
found those. Everybody loved the lights

1803
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:27,440
on them. Thought that was

1804
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,680
>> I mean I got I got lots of comments

1805
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,720
about the flags

1806
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:31,680
>> about them. It was

1807
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,200
>> people told me it gave them chills to

1808
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:33,839
drive up.

1809
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:36,799
>> It was people people were they loved it.

1810
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:38,319
They absolutely loved it. And I think

1811
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:40,319
the lights were a great idea.

1812
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:42,160
>> You know, you didn't pass it by us.

1813
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,599
>> I agree. I think Well, unfortunately,

1814
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:49,440
that was on that was 100% on me, Brian.

1815
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,880
I failed to triangulate and coordinate

1816
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,359
my schedule between when I personally

1817
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:58,319
was also going to be out of town.

1818
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,160
>> I think it it turned out perfect. I

1819
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:08,950
think it couldn't have been better.

1820
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,680
» I think we can find a couple.

1821
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,559
>> It is in the budget. Um, but if they

1822
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:16,480
want to make that donation, we're always

1823
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:18,799
willing to accept a donation. So, let's

1824
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:22,159
discuss this tomorrow in the office and

1825
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:24,799
see we'll see who it is and if they're

1826
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:27,839
ones that are, you know, chronic uh

1827
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:30,960
donators, we'll maybe chat about that.

1828
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,839
>> They could donate to get us more. Um,

1829
01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:37,440
I'm in my opinion.

1830
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:37,920
I think

1831
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,159
>> I would love to see also and maybe

1832
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:44,000
setting up the opportunity for uh people

1833
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,880
to get their own flags out in front of

1834
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,359
their own house. Um, we'll need to talk

1835
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,520
about that in the future discussing what

1836
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,279
the logistics may look like on that. But

1837
01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:01,920
I'm of the decision and thought that more red, white, and

1838
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,960
blue in our city during July and Flag

1839
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,839
Day and other times is only a good

1840
01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:08,400
thing.

1841
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,440
>> And I know there are it used to be kind

1842
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,759
of a a scouting project that was done

1843
01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:16,960
throughout the city. Um, and it was

1844
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,520
really cool when it was just everywhere

1845
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,560
and then that went away. And so I know

1846
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,880
that there are some some younger people

1847
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,359
who have started businesses doing the

1848
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,920
flags and our people are paying them to

1849
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,799
do it. So it might be another option to

1850
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:36,480
have um other young people as their

1851
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:38,480
business that people work with them

1852
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:40,319
rather than just us.

1853
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:41,279
>> I would love to

1854
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:42,560
>> I don't want to comp I don't want to

1855
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,400
compete with our young young

1856
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,319
entrepreneurs. question. It might be

1857
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:50,319
just non a non non-starter, but would it

1858
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:52,880
be possible to have a flag kit with a

1859
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,880
light and the po pole and the flag?

1860
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,040
Would it be too much for the office,

1861
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:05,120
Jody, to to to be able to sell those at the city cost in the office and say,

1862
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,040
"Hey, look, we we we've got these

1863
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,280
available if you want them. We've got

1864
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,040
them at the city office and we buy a

1865
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,719
stock of them and continue to to

1866
01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:14,480
purchase them." Would that be too much

1867
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:16,400
on the staff

1868
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,159
>> because I think

1869
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:19,520
>> I don't know that we don't want to make

1870
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,000
money on it. Just just something that we

1871
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:22,800
can, you know,

1872
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,239
>> I just didn't want to compete with our

1873
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:25,840
young people who have businesses.

1874
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:26,880
>> Let them come by.

1875
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,880
>> So that's what I'm thinking is that

1876
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,000
maybe

1877
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,679
>> So I think there's some good

1878
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:33,440
opportunities. Let's think about these.

1879
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,440
Let's brainstorm this because I'd love

1880
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,120
to increase

1881
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,679
>> the amount of flags in the city um as we

1882
01:10:39,679 --> 01:10:41,840
continue to go on. I would also love to

1883
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,640
see uh this potluck um be an annual

1884
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,520
thing.

1885
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,159
>> Oh,

1886
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:52,480
>> um now maybe not on Sunday um going

1887
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:54,560
forward um but

1888
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,719
>> didn't hurt.

1889
01:10:56,719 --> 01:10:58,480
>> I actually think Sunday was a great

1890
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:00,640
>> It worked out well.

1891
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,239
>> Was fantastic.

1892
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,480
>> It was a fabulous event. Um

1893
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:05,360
>> good job,

1894
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,440
>> Janet. Dan, you guys did a fabulous job.

1895
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:13,199
Uh Shannon and Les Gilbert um were

1896
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,400
fabulous chairs on that event. Um the

1897
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,719
people that showed up, we really want to

1898
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:19,120
thank

1899
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,920
>> also Dennis he did the entertainment and he he

1900
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,080
volunteered. I I brought it up at

1901
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,880
another meeting that I was at with him

1902
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,800
and he just said, "I'll just do that.

1903
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,640
I'll I'll take care of that." I said,

1904
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,400
"Okay." I didn't even have to ask him.

1905
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,360
So

1906
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,320
>> he appreciate that.

1907
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,880
>> He is fabulous. But I've gone off the

1908
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,199
agenda. So Jod's probably about ready to

1909
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:44,000
start throwing stuff at me. Um, this is

1910
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,000
actually not about all that as much as

1911
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,280
it is about this contract. Um, that does

1912
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,480
put us in an agreement with the county.

1913
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:54,480
So I will need to submit this packet to

1914
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:56,320
them to go over all the itemized

1915
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,880
elements of this. Um, we are

1916
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,760
obliged in that contract. So, as you

1917
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,320
share any more pictures from that event,

1918
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,440
if you can just put uh sponsored by Utah

1919
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:10,159
County,

1920
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:10,640
>> okay,

1921
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:15,440
>> on those im those things. Um, but we

1922
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:18,800
will if you guys do vote for me to sign

1923
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,400
that, I will sign that, get that all

1924
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,840
sent over and we can get that

1925
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,760
reimbursement of the 1500 from the

1926
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,840
county. Um, they were really excited

1927
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,320
about that. I'm glad that they um chose

1928
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,880
to help the cities in that because I

1929
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,280
think that as I saw different people

1930
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,719
posting pictures around um some cities

1931
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:38,719
did it as a whole city like us, some did

1932
01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:42,400
it as neighborhoods. Um but it was just

1933
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,960
neat to see uh all these different

1934
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,199
people just getting together as as a

1935
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,520
community in whatever size and shape or

1936
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,760
form that they wanted. But the that the

1937
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,560
county acknowledged that that's an

1938
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,760
important thing and um that helped us be

1939
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,520
able to

1940
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,760
know of what what parameters we wanted

1941
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,000
to put on our celebration.

1942
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:08,480
>> Yeah, it it was so fabulous. Um just for

1943
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,880
an FYI as well, county currently is

1944
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,159
looking to do a joint city and we're

1945
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:15,760
trying to fill out exactly what that

1946
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,440
looks like. Um fireworks show that will

1947
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:21,760
be on Utah Lake.

1948
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,400
Um, so it'll be shot out of the center

1949
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,840
of the fourth of July.

1950
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,800
>> For the 24th of July 24th,

1951
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,239
>> for safety reasons.

1952
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:30,560
>> Yeah.

1953
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,280
>> Uh, I think that helps the decrease. Put

1954
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,880
a barge out there.

1955
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,640
>> Well, so kind of like the mountain where

1956
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,400
I grew up in northern Idaho in Port

1957
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,120
Lane.

1958
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,520
>> Um, that's what that's what we did. We

1959
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,280
do every year. It's a big barge and

1960
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,960
everybody actually goes out in their

1961
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,040
boats and watches as it comes up out of

1962
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:49,440
the

1963
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:50,800
>> Fourth of July. We were at Henry's Lake

1964
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,400
and they

1965
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,920
Salem days is coming up. That's what

1966
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,199
they do. They have a barge that goes out

1967
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:56,640
on Salem Pond.

1968
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,040
>> Yeah,

1969
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,880
>> that's really a lot of them. There's

1970
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,960
some on the on the side and we get to

1971
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,080
shoot water at the barge sometimes.

1972
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,719
>> It's fun.

1973
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:05,840
>> Cool.

1974
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,159
>> Okay. Uh any other questions about that

1975
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:09,760
uh contractor agreement?

1976
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:10,320
>> Nope.

1977
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,080
>> Okay. Um update on the pavement uh

1978
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,040
preservation project and road bond.

1979
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,280
Community Development Director and Fire

1980
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,239
Chief Ted Mickelson.

1981
01:14:22,239 --> 01:14:25,760
>> An allaround good guy,

1982
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,310
>> future helicopter pilot.

1983
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,760
» Your your your biggest uh antagonist is

1984
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,880
now seeming to be your largest

1985
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,480
>> I know we talked about this at staff

1986
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:40,640
meeting. I think we're getting close.

1987
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,880
He's wearing her down.

1988
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,840
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so we had a

1989
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,199
pre-construction meeting for the

1990
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:50,880
pavement management project that we'll

1991
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,760
be doing. Um, they got their schedule

1992
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,960
just a couple of days ago and they're

1993
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,640
planning to start some activity next

1994
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,719
week. So, you'll start seeing some

1995
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:02,320
activity next week on the streets.

1996
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,080
They'll be basically lowering all the

1997
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,840
manholes and valve boxes and stuff like

1998
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:06,880
that because they got to lower those

1999
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,040
down to grind the pavement. And then

2000
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,400
starting o August 3rd, that week,

2001
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,719
they'll start grinding pavement and um

2002
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:18,640
grading and then putting down the new

2003
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,880
asphalt the street. So they're going to

2004
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,320
do it in like three segments,

2005
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,760
like kind of like three segments. So

2006
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,920
they'll go through and they'll grind and

2007
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,320
grade and pave one section, then I'll

2008
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,000
start working on another section. It

2009
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,080
takes about a week and a half to two

2010
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,600
weeks per section. So it'll be three of

2011
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,520
them. Take about six weeks. So, you're

2012
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,360
going to do similar to what you did last

2013
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,080
time where there's a

2014
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,640
some sort of a notification that goes

2015
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,159
out to those affected and

2016
01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:50,480
um so that they'll know which roads are

2017
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:51,840
>> door hangers.

2018
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,199
>> Well, that takes all the fun out of the

2019
01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:56,880
project. We just like guess them. Um

2020
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,760
>> all around good guy, huh?

2021
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,000
>> Take back what I said.

2022
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,040
>> Like to keep it exciting there.

2023
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,080
We'll be using our uh new notification

2024
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,000
software that we have to let residents

2025
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,040
know. I'll probably send one out

2026
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,440
tomorrow just letting them know dates. I

2027
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,280
don't have specific uh I've asked the

2028
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,440
contractor for the specific dates of

2029
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,040
specific streets

2030
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,480
>> and then we can also use our new

2031
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,719
platform to notify those streets and

2032
01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:24,159
then they will also be doing door

2033
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:26,480
hangers and just like they did before.

2034
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,159
So kind of the same process and there'll

2035
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:29,840
be traffic control up and stuff like And

2036
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,800
what about you did a map last time too

2037
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,640
that then we were able to put on social

2038
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,440
media just to show all the residents

2039
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,239
this area is right now

2040
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:40,719
>> you know

2041
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:42,320
>> right it'll be the same thing we'll have

2042
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,239
the map link to it in our new software

2043
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:45,520
and all that kind of stuff when we send

2044
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:46,320
it out.

2045
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,719
>> Um just waiting on the more detailed

2046
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:51,360
information. I don't have that yet.

2047
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,360
>> On Yahifi you have us included on all

2048
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,280
sendouts even if we're not in an

2049
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,960
affected area. Yes.

2050
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,360
>> So we can So Yahify is like every

2051
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,719
weekend we can most all everything I've

2052
01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:04,159
sent out so far through Yahify is about

2053
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:05,280
to everybody.

2054
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,600
>> Um but we can map if we want to send out

2055
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:08,960
certain areas you just go pick on the

2056
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:09,600
map.

2057
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,360
>> Yeah. So if you do that like we we did

2058
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,840
that with we changed Everbridge to where

2059
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,600
all of us were getting it because we'll

2060
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,360
get calls from people and we're not in

2061
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,520
the area never get the message. So you

2062
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,480
could add all of us on the Opify.

2063
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,560
>> You can't each one of those. You have to

2064
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,400
pick the map area and then then you have

2065
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,840
to individually select the editor you

2066
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,320
want to add.

2067
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,920
>> Okay. Yeah. If you can make sure that we

2068
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,800
get added to those and probably Lori and

2069
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,640
Jody is and as well and Wayne

2070
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,560
>> as best as I remember I'll I'll try to

2071
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,320
do that.

2072
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,920
I'm climbing up in here. So

2073
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,239
um

2074
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:48,239
so so this will take till somewhere

2075
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,400
around the first week of September. So,

2076
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:51,679
I mean, it's going to impact the

2077
01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:53,520
community. We're g have to, you know,

2078
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,360
some diver of defers and stuff like

2079
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,199
that. But, uh, I think the end result

2080
01:17:57,199 --> 01:17:58,880
will be great to have some these roads

2081
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,640
redone.

2082
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,480
>> Our roads to worry about and then the

2083
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:04,800
county roads and then Salem roads. So,

2084
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,560
we're still going to be able to get out,

2085
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:07,520
right?

2086
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,360
>> Between the three projects

2087
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,719
>> somehow, worst case scenario, knows.

2088
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:15,840
>> We're going to be able.

2089
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,880
>> So, this going to be giving people

2090
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,440
rides.

2091
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:24,640
Um, so this project does include

2092
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,800
Woodland Hills Drive, the segments that

2093
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:27,920
weren't completed with the last

2094
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,320
projects. Beyond that, most of the works

2095
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,600
can be done at the top of the city. So,

2096
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,239
Eagle Nest, Loafer,

2097
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:37,360
um, Autumnly Circle, Deep Forest. So, a

2098
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,960
few of those. So, other than Woodland

2099
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,760
Hills Drive, most of it will be up on

2100
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,840
the top of the city. So, so generally

2101
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,120
most of the community won't be impacted

2102
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,320
plus Shadow Ridge.

2103
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,840
>> Yeah. Uh so we'll have a lot of the

2104
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,280
community that won't be impacted very

2105
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,880
heavily or the main travel routes other

2106
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,400
than once we get one minute drive done

2107
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,480
but uh there's a little piece on Lil

2108
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:57,679
Reed too. So but Sonic drives all done

2109
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:01,199
and most of uh Willer

2110
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:04,000
is done. Just a little piece there. So

2111
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:04,640
nice

2112
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,840
>> chain breaker.

2113
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:06,480
>> Yeah.

2114
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:07,040
>> What's that?

2115
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,880
>> The chain breaker for the plows right

2116
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,640
there at the end of Willow Reed. That's

2117
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,560
a bugger when you're on a plow on that

2118
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,480
one.

2119
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:16,640
>> Yeah. So, I think it'll be great to have

2120
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,239
it done. So, that's the schedule on the

2121
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:20,800
payment management plan. Um, as far as

2122
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,480
the bond for it goes, um, we went out to

2123
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:27,600
RFP for a

2124
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,880
essentially a bank to bond for the, uh,

2125
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,640
project, the 1.4 million. Got three

2126
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,080
back. uh our council felt like the

2127
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,360
interest rates on those were just a

2128
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,760
little higher than he was liking and he

2129
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,360
thought there may be some better options

2130
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,280
to get a little bit lower interest. In

2131
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,920
doing some research he found uh a

2132
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,400
loan bank basically for lack of a better

2133
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,000
term through UD do. It's called the

2134
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,480
state infrastructure bank and they will

2135
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:57,600
loan out money through the state

2136
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,120
infrastructure bank and it's a little

2137
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,480
lower interest rates than you'll get in

2138
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:02,880
the market. um could be a half a point

2139
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,520
to a point lower uh which saves us, you

2140
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,960
know, some good money over 10 years. So,

2141
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,600
um he recommended that. So, I reached

2142
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,440
out to them. Uh filled out the

2143
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:15,760
application this week. Um we'll be

2144
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,120
working on some more paperwork. We'll

2145
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,199
find out in August.

2146
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,679
Um they have a board meeting in August

2147
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:22,800
that we'll be going to. We'll find out

2148
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,239
if they'll fund the project. If they

2149
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:26,400
fund it, uh it takes, I think you said,

2150
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,159
10 days to close on it. So we we'll have

2151
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:30,880
the money in place before our first

2152
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,080
pay request is due to the contractor. If

2153
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,520
it doesn't get funded through the state

2154
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,120
infrastructure bank, then we can go back

2155
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,360
to the lowest of the three that

2156
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,679
submitted and just and go with them.

2157
01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:44,480
>> And we've still got some funds that we

2158
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:46,800
that a lot in our that we already have.

2159
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,960
So we can make a payment if we if we

2160
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,560
needed to. So,

2161
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,199
>> so we're working with uh the U do

2162
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:54,400
contact right now to get all that

2163
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:55,600
information filled out and then we'll go

2164
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,510
to port.

2165
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,159
» So, we just have the options and we'll

2166
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:04,640
see. We'll take the best rate. We will

2167
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,760
get it funded. It's just a matter of

2168
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,480
which selection we make.

2169
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:13,679
>> Okay. Uh any questions for Ted on that?

2170
01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:16,159
So, got a question that's not really on

2171
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:20,480
here, but is is in relation. July 1st

2172
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:23,760
has come and gone. How is our is water

2173
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,960
funding looking? Have we been able to

2174
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,149
put in an application for

2175
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:33,840
No, we didn't get an application into

2176
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,760
the state for um

2177
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,159
SRF funds for the state yet. Um,

2178
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:43,760
>> are you waiting for Burgess? Is that I

2179
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,040
mean, is that what you're waiting on to

2180
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:45,440
find out?

2181
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:46,880
>> Yeah, because we don't know how much

2182
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,040
they're going to uh when we submitted

2183
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,480
for the grant with Burgess's office, the

2184
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:55,920
request was for originally 2.9 million.

2185
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,360
Um, they asked us to give them phases at

2186
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,440
which we would be comfortable funding.

2187
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:03,040
So, the short of it is it ranges

2188
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,639
anywhere between a billion 2.9 million.

2189
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:06,080
We don't know how much of that we get,

2190
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,120
if any. We are number four out of 20 on

2191
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,280
the list on his list. So, it's a good

2192
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:11,600
chance.

2193
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,880
>> It's a good chance we're going to get

2194
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,120
something. We don't know how much yet.

2195
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,560
And I wanted to wait to find out how

2196
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,080
much we're getting from him and then

2197
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,080
supplement that with state. Because if

2198
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,080
you take funding that you have already

2199
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,600
acquired to the state,

2200
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,440
you have the chance of getting better

2201
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:28,800
funding with the state because you're

2202
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,320
leveraging it with the funding you have.

2203
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,080
Now, the other caveat to that is you

2204
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,639
can't use federal money to leverage

2205
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:36,239
federal money. So, then I have to work

2206
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:37,440
state to get it out of their state

2207
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:38,800
money. If that makes sense.

2208
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,840
>> Yes. Um, there's no jeopardy in there's

2209
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,320
no chance of us losing the opportunity

2210
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,679
if I mean it's

2211
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:47,679
>> they're not going to cut off

2212
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:49,280
applications because they've had enough

2213
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,440
of them and

2214
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:55,120
>> um No, I mean the way the state works

2215
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,719
it's a revolving fund.

2216
01:22:56,719 --> 01:22:58,639
>> Yeah, but they they cut off applications

2217
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:00,080
for over six months. So

2218
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,080
>> that wasn't because of

2219
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:02,480
>> Yeah,

2220
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:04,880
>> that wasn't because of funding issues.

2221
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,560
That was because and I actually was

2222
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,080
sitting in the board meeting and and

2223
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,920
supported and voted that uh to put the

2224
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,440
mortorium on. The problem was is during

2225
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:14,960
>> it's all your fault.

2226
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,000
>> Problem is during the uh ARPA era, yes,

2227
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,320
>> they had so many applications and so

2228
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,320
much funding that went out that they

2229
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,320
just kind of lost track, for lack of

2230
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,840
better term, of what was going on. And

2231
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,600
they have so few staff to manage all

2232
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,600
this. So, what they wanted to do is take

2233
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,920
a six-month breather and catch up on all

2234
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,679
of this to figure out exactly what they

2235
01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:35,920
had out, what they had coming in before

2236
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,199
they kind of re-engaged.

2237
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:38,639
>> Okay. I just don't want to get caught in

2238
01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:39,679
that again because everybody's been

2239
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:40,960
waiting for six months and they're going

2240
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,960
to get inundated and then I don't want

2241
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,639
to get

2242
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:48,159
be so because we didn't do anything.

2243
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,800
>> Makes sense. I trust I trust your your

2244
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,679
judgment on it.

2245
01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:53,840
>> Yeah. I think if we can find out what um

2246
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,239
and I've tried to reach out to Burg's

2247
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:57,440
office and haven't been successful

2248
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:57,840
getting

2249
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,199
>> Oh, he was he was with the president

2250
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:01,120
earlier so we busy.

2251
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,480
>> Well, I work with their one of their

2252
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:04,719
staff guys who I work with and and I I

2253
01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:06,560
haven't been successful getting follow

2254
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,040
in. I'd follow up. I was talking to him.

2255
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,480
>> Do you have any contacts? I'm just

2256
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:11,840
trying to keep reaching out to him to

2257
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,920
find out. I I just mean the timing of

2258
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,280
it. I don't know where the timing is.

2259
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,960
>> I know. And and and we're all anxious

2260
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,080
for that.

2261
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,400
>> Yeah. Oh yeah, tell me about it. I don't

2262
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,159
like these.

2263
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:25,600
>> Wait for the next Saturday night. One of

2264
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,669
the morning water breaks.

2265
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:31,600
» Thank you for

2266
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,280
Don't you worry.

2267
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,000
>> Anything else on water or on the

2268
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,480
pavement management plan

2269
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:40,639
talking other grants too or just the

2270
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:42,639
>> we we're headed right into the other

2271
01:24:42,639 --> 01:24:44,080
grants. So

2272
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:48,880
>> Ted, update on our other grants.

2273
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,440
Um so the other one we we've been

2274
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:53,360
awarded is the football court grant and

2275
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,960
we have engaged with our engineering

2276
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,960
company and have a contract in place.

2277
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,719
They have actually surveyed the property

2278
01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:00,000
been up there survey department ready.

2279
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,280
So now they're what they call the base

2280
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,320
map. Now they're putting the all the

2281
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,000
nuts and bolts into the plan and then

2282
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,480
they'll start the design. So that one's

2283
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:11,679
moving along. I asked if they can push

2284
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:13,760
this one and maybe start something this

2285
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,679
fall on the project. So,

2286
01:25:17,679 --> 01:25:20,400
hopefully I I I don't know uh how it

2287
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:21,600
depends on the season whether we'll be

2288
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,639
able to start something this year or

2289
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:25,520
not, but we're going to try.

2290
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,360
>> Um details on that. Um can we see plans

2291
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,800
on that?

2292
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,760
>> You don't have them yet?

2293
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,199
>> I don't have them when we have them.

2294
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:36,880
>> Okay. No yet or anything? Okay. Okay. Um

2295
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,480
the reason why is I have been doing

2296
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:41,040
quite a bit of research on if we are

2297
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,920
wanting to do a fundraiser for some of

2298
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,040
that. Um, I found some brick options.

2299
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,120
There's there's quite a few out there.

2300
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,000
>> Yeah. So,

2301
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,440
>> the papers or whatever

2302
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:53,199
>> papers or whatever we want to do. We

2303
01:25:53,199 --> 01:25:55,440
could even do benches, plaques. We can

2304
01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:57,679
do all kinds of things. So,

2305
01:25:57,679 --> 01:25:59,600
>> can sell paddles that say Wooden Hills

2306
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:00,159
on them

2307
01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:02,320
>> literally. Yeah. I mean, we we can kind

2308
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,920
of make this a cool thing and and get

2309
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,520
some community involvement. But

2310
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,679
somewhere along the way, we should

2311
01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:10,239
probably all sit down and just discuss

2312
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:12,800
if there's a good strategy around that.

2313
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,000
Why don't you uh get with mayor and Jod

2314
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,159
and put put some stuff together and just

2315
01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:19,600
get it on the

2316
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,760
>> and I can show you when we submit the

2317
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,960
application we kind of came up with

2318
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,600
here's where we caught a walk to go

2319
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,480
>> and we had some ideas and it the

2320
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:33,840
engineers um so that trail um from where

2321
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,679
the flag pole is

2322
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:39,199
>> there's a trail that kind of goes

2323
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:40,719
>> south

2324
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:43,600
>> along and then drops the hill. That

2325
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,600
trail is going to come out because

2326
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:46,639
that's where the pickle ball court's

2327
01:26:46,639 --> 01:26:47,840
going to go and we'll have to move it

2328
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,120
around. We'll still connect those two

2329
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,920
pieces. Um, but we'll move it towards

2330
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,520
the pavilion, the trail. But we thought

2331
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,120
that might be a nice spot to have a

2332
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,840
paper area right through there on the

2333
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,120
pickle ball court. Maybe put a couple

2334
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,880
benches and those could be donated items

2335
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,639
that would connect. We're going to build

2336
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:04,800
a trail, an ADA trail from the parking

2337
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,040
lot over to the pickle ball court. So,

2338
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,840
we connect that trail to the other by

2339
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,639
the flags, but and that would be a nice

2340
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:15,520
spot.

2341
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,199
>> So, um I think something like that would

2342
01:27:17,199 --> 01:27:17,920
be great.

2343
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,760
>> Okay, cool. Um yeah, so it would just be

2344
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,360
like discussing scopes and

2345
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,440
strategy around it, costs, all that

2346
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:27,840
stuff.

2347
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,239
>> Once we get kind of a preliminary plan

2348
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:32,239
from them, a preliminary layout plan, we

2349
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:33,360
could probably start coming up with some

2350
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,960
of these square footage areas and stuff

2351
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,719
like that.

2352
01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:39,120
It could be a good

2353
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,639
then we have some good information to go

2354
01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:42,960
out. Yeah. And I need the square footage

2355
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,719
for if I can get the the coatings

2356
01:27:46,719 --> 01:27:48,800
donated or at least at better good

2357
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,840
pricing. So, I need that once I get that

2358
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,000
put together.

2359
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,320
>> During our kickoff with the uh paving

2360
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,040
contractor, we also talked to them about

2361
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,120
paving the parking lot.

2362
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,000
>> Parking lot. And if we if we Mike could

2363
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,120
get th this kind of information um and

2364
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,440
decide on it prior to Woodland Hills

2365
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:11,760
Day, we could sell the pavers at

2366
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,679
Woodland Hills Day even though they

2367
01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:16,320
won't be put in till next year, next

2368
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,679
summer, fall or spring.

2369
01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:18,400
>> Have signups,

2370
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,239
>> but we could have signups for those who

2371
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:21,920
are wanting to do something.

2372
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,679
>> Probably want some pictures or posters

2373
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:25,520
like conceptual of what it you know what

2374
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,280
I mean? If you had all of that and

2375
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:27,679
>> Yeah.

2376
01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:29,120
>> and show them what a paper will look

2377
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,120
like, you know, with the name in it. I

2378
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,239
think that would be

2379
01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:34,560
>> that would I think people would be real

2380
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,560
that would get them all excited and and

2381
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,320
again if we want to do the paddles or

2382
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,560
whatever we want to do if we had a

2383
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,639
little booth at Woodland Hills day just

2384
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:44,639
to talk about it and showcase where it's

2385
01:28:44,639 --> 01:28:46,800
going to be there and

2386
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:47,679
>> that kind of thing

2387
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:49,840
>> we have we have a well the paddles are

2388
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,760
fun

2389
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,000
something it's kind of fun we whenever

2390
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,159
we pull it out we're like oh it's a

2391
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:58,159
pickle ball it's no it's a what's the

2392
01:28:58,159 --> 01:28:59,600
other one ping pong but it's just fun

2393
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:00,880
because it's

2394
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,360
kind of a memory thing.

2395
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,040
>> Yeah. Okay. Well, I've got a lot of

2396
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,760
information. So, whenever we want to

2397
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,000
connect and just kind of come up with a

2398
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,000
strategy, however we do that, I don't

2399
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,840
know if we put a task force together or

2400
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,800
what. I mean, I hate to

2401
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:24,709
>> design.

2402
01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:27,120
What size of donations are you looking

2403
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:31,270
at?

2404
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:36,229
» You might have a gold level, you might

2405
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:39,520
» I just don't want to be

2406
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,840
>> sure. Sorry. I would say by the next

2407
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:43,120
council meeting, we'll probably be

2408
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,520
pretty close to having

2409
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,760
>> to plan far enough along start pulling

2410
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,679
off some quantities some areas and stuff

2411
01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:50,400
like that.

2412
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,239
>> Yeah. Yeah. It just be nice to to know

2413
01:29:52,239 --> 01:29:55,360
the whole scope because be beyond that,

2414
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,600
I also feel like beyond a monetary

2415
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,679
donation for people that might be a

2416
01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:01,440
little more strapped that may want to

2417
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:03,760
donate some time to some benefit to the

2418
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,239
city or the project, maybe that's an

2419
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:09,120
option. So different a little bit later

2420
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,639
when probably a little farther along in

2421
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:13,120
the plans we have kind of a rest of the

2422
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:13,679
school

2423
01:30:13,679 --> 01:30:15,120
>> but still capture them.

2424
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,760
>> Yeah, just that's the point.

2425
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,440
>> There are some ideas we've had is we got

2426
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,840
to relocate that's on us. So we got a

2427
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,520
bunch of screens we got to relocate so

2428
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:24,960
those that have that capability can help

2429
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:26,400
us out there.

2430
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:27,840
>> Um some things like that. We're going to

2431
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,520
have to replant some grass probably once

2432
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,679
we once we dig this up and things like

2433
01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:33,360
>> to somebody that can do all of those

2434
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,600
things.

2435
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,400
I'm really good at volunteering him.

2436
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,800
>> So, I think we'll have some good ideas,

2437
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,120
some things they can do.

2438
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,960
>> Yeah. So, anyways, I there there's quite

2439
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,760
a bit of opportunity here and a pretty

2440
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,320
streamlined process with the company I

2441
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:55,110
contacted.

2442
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,360
» Great. Thanks.

2443
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,520
>> Great. Okay.

2444
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,229
>> Wonderful. Um

2445
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:06,719
» discussion of uh you you you you might

2446
01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:08,880
as well just stay there for a second but

2447
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,520
we have a discussion on large purchases.

2448
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,120
Um so in the budget we have allocated um

2449
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,159
repairing the city center. Um so that is

2450
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:20,320
this whole wall needs to be ripped off

2451
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,320
and redone because it is leaking

2452
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,639
currently into the building and I hear

2453
01:31:24,639 --> 01:31:27,440
leaking into building is bad. Um and

2454
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:29,360
then there's a number of spots all the

2455
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,120
way around the building. Um we are are

2456
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,320
budgeted for this in the budget. Um the

2457
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,880
bid that came back is what is in the

2458
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:43,750
budget and that is $32,47.38

2459
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,920
um which is there's an extensive amount

2460
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,639
of work that needs to be done. Um and so

2461
01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:50,800
that is what this large purchase request

2462
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:51,360
is.

2463
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,159
>> Did it go out to multiple bids or just

2464
01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:56,239
did you just get a single? I just got

2465
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:59,280
the single one. Um though we could

2466
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,440
>> I don't know. I think we're required at

2467
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:02,400
40, right?

2468
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:03,120
>> It is. Yes.

2469
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,920
>> So we're okay being under 40 but just

2470
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,600
going single source.

2471
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,120
>> What was the amount again? Sorry, Ben.

2472
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:14,629
>> 32,47.38.

2473
01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:16,159
» And it's all exterior work or does that

2474
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:17,199
include interior work?

2475
01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:20,320
>> That's all exterior work. So that

2476
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,080
includes

2477
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,840
removal, demolition, garbage, uh install

2478
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:30,000
or new OSB where needed. Um that

2479
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,080
includes all of the waterproofing,

2480
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:36,800
flashing, uh sighting installed and culd

2481
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,560
and then painted.

2482
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,719
>> And what's the timeline for this? Are we

2483
01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:41,120
thinking?

2484
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,840
>> Um that would start, if approved

2485
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,560
tonight, that would start quite soon.

2486
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,320
Next couple weeks. We definitely want

2487
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:52,790
that done before.

2488
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,440
» So,

2489
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:57,679
>> yes. Is there a guarantee is yours

2490
01:32:57,679 --> 01:33:00,320
guarantee that goes with that work?

2491
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:01,600
>> Yes.

2492
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,440
>> Yep.

2493
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:08,080
>> Um, so that's my world is contracting

2494
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,280
and

2495
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,440
>> I don't know the magnitude, the scope or

2496
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:16,159
whatever, but it feels high.

2497
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:20,639
I'm more than open to other options

2498
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:21,920
>> because if we can get it at a better

2499
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,239
rate with some competent construct some

2500
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:28,800
>> competent contractors if I could speak

2501
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,880
that would be helpful competent

2502
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,560
contractors

2503
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,560
>> um I'd love to to head down this

2504
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,320
>> I think one of the problems we've had in

2505
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,480
the past is because our jobs are so

2506
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:41,120
small that most contractors have other

2507
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,199
big projects somewhere else and we're

2508
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:44,880
just happy when we can find somebody

2509
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,159
that will come here. But if you know

2510
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:48,000
other people that might be

2511
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:48,400
>> great.

2512
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,480
>> Do we have enough information to put a a

2513
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:52,560
scope of work, a sale together? It

2514
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,600
sounds difficult.

2515
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,120
>> It is the the other issue, and I'd love

2516
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:04,470
to talk with you, Steve, on this. Um

2517
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:06,239
because of the way this building's

2518
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:08,400
built, the primary reason we have the

2519
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,159
leaking on this is this wall right here

2520
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:15,520
is foundation. So this is concrete right

2521
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,080
here. It's the same stuff Steve used to

2522
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:22,400
build his home. This wall is not. And so

2523
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,560
what's happened is this wall where it

2524
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,080
stops right there cuz these trusses sit

2525
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,440
on the foundation wall. There is a ledge

2526
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,000
that was created and they need to build

2527
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,239
the it needs to be flat on the exterior

2528
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:38,639
and it was not done. And so it created a

2529
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:42,000
ledge by which snow, rain, water sits

2530
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,560
and it has then wicked up. It has

2531
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,080
corroded the Hardy. And so this whole

2532
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,960
section needs to be built out and then

2533
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,159
resurfaced.

2534
01:34:52,159 --> 01:34:54,960
>> But it's just to to go out for multiple

2535
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,520
bid, you've got to have a a good scope.

2536
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:58,080
>> Absolutely

2537
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:58,400
>> correct.

2538
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,480
>> I would just suggest have people look at

2539
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:00,800
it.

2540
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:01,840
>> You want to just do that.

2541
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,480
>> That's the only way this

2542
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:06,639
>> is it's a fairly

2543
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:10,560
in and and scope is really a really

2544
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,480
small job. It's it's you know

2545
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:16,080
>> I think the ch yeah it's a pretty small

2546
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,360
job and I think the challenge with the

2547
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:18,719
scope of work is then you're dictating

2548
01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:21,120
what you want done.

2549
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,560
Yeah. I think if you have someone kind

2550
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,880
of look at it and give their, you know,

2551
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,360
give their um estimates based on what

2552
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,360
they recommend and then take then what

2553
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,679
you do is you take at least in in

2554
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:34,000
because I worked a lot in Steve's world

2555
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,560
only the heavy civil side and you know a

2556
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:37,840
lot of what we would do is we do what we

2557
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,520
call the best value say who's giving us

2558
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,920
the best product for the best price and

2559
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,000
necessarily the cheapest not the most

2560
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,440
expensive but what are we getting a good

2561
01:35:45,440 --> 01:35:47,840
product for you know the right price. So

2562
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,320
>> and and let's get some people to to look

2563
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,320
at it. looking at this be the best

2564
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:53,120
option

2565
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:57,040
>> maybe um

2566
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,840
does our inspections um

2567
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:04,560
>> no not the engineer um what's his name

2568
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,199
>> who does what

2569
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:06,560
>> what's over offer

2570
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:07,920
>> Chris Tambasco

2571
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,159
>> Tenbasco maybe have him just kind of

2572
01:36:10,159 --> 01:36:12,159
look at that help review him maybe he

2573
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:15,280
would be willing to do that and and you

2574
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:19,600
Ted you and and Chris and just kind of

2575
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,199
said so you guys can put your brains

2576
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:23,920
together as as experts in in this field

2577
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,920
and say, "Yeah, this is this is the

2578
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,600
where the direction we want to go."

2579
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:28,880
>> Yeah. And I think even if you have

2580
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,880
contractors, I mean, it's pretty for the

2581
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,880
most part straightforward. Um it's just

2582
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,320
a matter of how much you want.

2583
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,080
>> Yeah.

2584
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,520
>> Kind of like when we did our wall out

2585
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,280
here, you know, I did I called out two

2586
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,280
or three companies, Geotech, and had

2587
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,560
them come and look at it and say, "Give

2588
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,840
me your thoughts on what needs to be

2589
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:44,800
done."

2590
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,280
and and for the most part they both came

2591
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,080
to the same kind of conclusions and

2592
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,040
general cost but um at least that way

2593
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,679
you've kind of validated

2594
01:36:55,679 --> 01:36:57,520
that kind of stuff. So I think you got a

2595
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:58,639
couple three guys that do that type of

2596
01:36:58,639 --> 01:37:00,400
work look at it and say what what you

2597
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,480
recommended what your cost then you just

2598
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:04,480
evaluate what they've done and what what

2599
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:06,639
their recommend cost is.

2600
01:37:06,639 --> 01:37:10,800
>> So I emailed each of you that that bid

2601
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,239
so you can go through and see kind of

2602
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:15,920
what they articulated. They came out um

2603
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,239
two or three times to make sure to get

2604
01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:21,840
that scope. Um

2605
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,679
so yeah, I'm more than happy. If we can

2606
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:26,159
find a a cheaper and also reliable

2607
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,880
company, I'm I'm game for that. This is

2608
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,840
a company I personally have used a lot.

2609
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:37,600
Um so I know their their quality and the type of attention that they will

2610
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:43,590
give us, but that'd be great.

2611
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,840
Wonderful. Okay. Departmental updates.

2612
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,159
Uh Ted, Community Development, Public

2613
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:49,920
Works, Fire Department.

2614
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,520
>> Um so just a quick update on the

2615
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,920
roundabout project. Uh spoke with the

2616
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:58,800
county today and um the design for the

2617
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,239
roundabouts completed. The property

2618
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:05,520
acquisition exhibits are all prepared.

2619
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,920
They had to make an change on it based

2620
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,520
on some conversations they had with

2621
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,440
three bridges. So those changes have now

2622
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:13,199
been made,

2623
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:17,040
delayed the project a bit. So they're

2624
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,560
going to start working on property

2625
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,239
acquisition, but the project probably

2626
01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:23,119
won't go to bid until this fall.

2627
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:24,560
>> So they'll start construction in the

2628
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,199
spring.

2629
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:29,360
So that's kind of their schedule. But

2630
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,560
how the timing of that also is uh works

2631
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:33,920
a little bit better with that sewer

2632
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,840
project. They were a little nervous

2633
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:36,960
because they're bringing that sewer

2634
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,199
right now up drive. That's the work of

2635
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:40,800
this drive. bring the sew work for three

2636
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,840
bridges. Um, and their fear was because

2637
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,440
their project for the county actually

2638
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:48,000
extends down within those driveways and

2639
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,119
they didn't want to get the work

2640
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:50,639
complete and then have the contractor

2641
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:52,159
doing the utilities tear off

2642
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:53,920
>> tear it up patch job. Yeah.

2643
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,360
>> Yeah. So, they wanted to wait till all

2644
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,239
that was complete and as well. So,

2645
01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:00,480
>> uh, so probably be bid out this fall and

2646
01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:01,600
then start working the spring.

2647
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:02,880
>> So, if they're not going to start

2648
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,560
construction till spring, will we be

2649
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,960
able to use the mailboxes mailboxes

2650
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,880
until then? We won't need our

2651
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,880
temporaries this year, but we'll

2652
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:11,760
probably next spring.

2653
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:13,040
>> Yeah, he recommended having them

2654
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,560
probably in place and ready by sometime

2655
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,239
around the first of the year and then

2656
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:19,199
that way they're ready to go when

2657
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:20,880
they're ready to start.

2658
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,550
>> Okay.

2659
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,040
» Um I've already updated you on the

2660
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,159
project. I think that's the biggest

2661
01:39:28,159 --> 01:39:29,440
things we have in public works right

2662
01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:32,880
now. Um water fountain park works.

2663
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:33,760
>> Woohoo.

2664
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,280
>> So

2665
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,560
that's news. Did we just have a valve?

2666
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,719
>> Uh the phone a friend worked. No, it's

2667
01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:42,719
not a valve. It is a process that I

2668
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:44,000
don't know that I could describe to you

2669
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,000
of how this got how this thing works.

2670
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,400
But uh but we got we got shown how it

2671
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,000
works. And uh it's it's kind of it's

2672
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,679
>> tube is plugged in one place. You got to

2673
01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:55,280
plug it into another place and it's

2674
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,119
anyway

2675
01:39:57,119 --> 01:39:58,960
>> drafting

2676
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,280
sort of. Yeah, it's lifting.

2677
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:02,480
>> Exactly.

2678
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:04,239
>> So anyway, we got it figured out. So

2679
01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:08,320
it's working. Um, our wildland fire crew

2680
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:12,159
right now is on the uh

2681
01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:15,440
Stuki Stookie fire.

2682
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:18,480
So, um, they've been out there for about

2683
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:20,960
not a week now.

2684
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,960
So, we're excited to see them paying

2685
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,880
their way this year. So, they got some

2686
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,280
good buyers.

2687
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:28,159
Get some good stuff.

2688
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:30,400
>> Unfortunately, they're local. They're

2689
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:31,840
all in Utah.

2690
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:32,400
>> Yes.

2691
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:33,119
>> I mean, a lot of them

2692
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:35,280
>> they have not left Utah this year. Well,

2693
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:40,870
Take it back in the spring.

2694
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:41,679
» They've stayed in state.

2695
01:40:41,679 --> 01:40:42,719
>> That's what I was thinking. I was

2696
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:43,760
thinking most of them

2697
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,639
>> coming out to the Stuki fire last week

2698
01:40:46,639 --> 01:40:52,870
few days ago.

2699
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,639
» That's all I have.

2700
01:40:54,639 --> 01:41:01,600
>> Perfect. Okay. Thank you, Dad. You're free to back to the back. Uh

2701
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,440
Wayne, planning commission and code

2702
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:05,280
enforcement. Do you have anything?

2703
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:09,350
>> Yeah. Let me

2704
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,520
share a thought with y'all. In June's

2705
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,000
Wayne's World, I put out an open

2706
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,360
invitation to the city if anybody had

2707
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,920
any thoughts or ideas about changing our

2708
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,280
ordinances, any of them in in any way,

2709
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:30,159
shape, or form. Um, I got one response.

2710
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:32,880
So to me it says that everybody's

2711
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:37,119
generally happy with with ordinances as they are.

2712
01:41:37,119 --> 01:41:37,840
>> You can read in

2713
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,639
>> you know you said that on record.

2714
01:41:40,639 --> 01:41:42,159
>> Let's let it slide. Carry on. This is

2715
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:44,080
Wayne's time everybody.

2716
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,440
>> And the uh the recommendations had to do

2717
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:50,400
with our uh fencing ordinance

2718
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,280
interestingly enough and some of the

2719
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,360
recommendations

2720
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,840
are already in our existing fencing

2721
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,239
ordinance. This person didn't realize

2722
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:02,080
that a number of years ago they were

2723
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,679
updated some and so our recommend the

2724
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:08,080
recommendations are already in place in

2725
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,760
some respects. So anyway, I just want to

2726
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:19,520
close the circle for the council to know that and that of course we're open anytime somebody wants to

2727
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:23,199
make a a recommendation. But um anyway,

2728
01:42:23,199 --> 01:42:26,719
that's that's what that's what we got in

2729
01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:27,920
June.

2730
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,800
>> Anyway, somebody reached out.

2731
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,199
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to see

2732
01:42:33,199 --> 01:42:35,679
>> that shows too that um sometimes

2733
01:42:35,679 --> 01:42:38,400
residents don't know what what's there

2734
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,280
already. And I think that's a good a

2735
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,040
good thing too to be able to say, "Oh,

2736
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,080
that's here, but your other part, let's consider that."

2737
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,920
>> Yeah.

2738
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:48,480
>> Very good.

2739
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:49,040
>> That's all.

2740
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:49,520
>> Thank you.

2741
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,520
Wayne. Uh nothing for

2742
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:55,679
emergency management today. Um but we do

2743
01:42:55,679 --> 01:42:59,840
have our 911 dispatch. So, former fire

2744
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,920
chief, former assistant fire chief,

2745
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,560
former council member and current 911

2746
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,800
dispatch liaison

2747
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,400
>> extraordinire and the only thing I know

2748
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,679
is July 4th next year is on a Sunday.

2749
01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:17,119
So, it kind of breaks our pattern.

2750
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:20,480
>> But anyway, I wanted to say that city

2751
01:43:20,480 --> 01:43:23,119
get together was one of the biggest that

2752
01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:25,840
I've ever been to. It was quite

2753
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:29,520
remarkable. So well done

2754
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,760
you who did it.

2755
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,600
Um

2756
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:38,080
so our uh central Utah 911

2757
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,639
dispatch meeting was cancelled

2758
01:43:40,639 --> 01:43:44,320
and uh about two days later they texted

2759
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,080
everybody and they said, "Hey, we got to

2760
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:47,760
get together. We got to get together as

2761
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,880
quick as we can." And so a whole bunch

2762
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,800
of us went down there and we met because

2763
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,119
Orum and Lyndon brought a big crew in to

2764
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,280
talk to us about joining our dispatch.

2765
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:01,760
>> Oh.

2766
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:03,600
>> And that's when we know it's serious,

2767
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:04,080
you know.

2768
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:04,480
>> Yeah.

2769
01:44:04,480 --> 01:44:06,800
>> So there were seven of them that came

2770
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,960
and uh it was one of the most

2771
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,800
interesting meetings I've ever attended.

2772
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,600
It was three and a half hours long and

2773
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:23,360
uh it was not boring. Um we had Lyndon fire

2774
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,960
and police. We had or fire chief and

2775
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,920
police and I knew that or chief. So it

2776
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,840
was good to go to some of those meetings

2777
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,480
with Ted and know him. So, they were

2778
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:39,840
there, city managers, um, and, uh,

2779
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,360
they they were very open and upfront

2780
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,159
with us. Uh, their prices were really

2781
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:48,960
going up this year from Metro. They're

2782
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,520
on a system with Provo, and Provo runs

2783
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,400
the system and bills them, and so they

2784
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,199
decided to raise their rates. Anyway, it

2785
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:01,440
got where it was necessary for them

2786
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:03,679
to to come to us and talk to us. Now,

2787
01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:05,920
the state wants this to happen anyway,

2788
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,360
you know, and the feds are pushing for

2789
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:07,600
this,

2790
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,800
>> get these dispatch centers consolidated.

2791
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,080
>> So, so we went on talked about a lot of

2792
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,880
stuff. There'd be a million-doll buy in

2793
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,679
for them to come to our dispatch, but

2794
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:21,840
they would bring with them some credits

2795
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,840
if they brought hardware and so on that

2796
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,520
the dispatch could use. Of course, that

2797
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:25,840
would

2798
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,560
>> What about dispatchers?

2799
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:29,040
>> What's that?

2800
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,360
>> You know, what what about um employees?

2801
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,040
That would be that would bring in those

2802
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,320
too because we are always looking for

2803
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:35,600
new dispatchers.

2804
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,239
>> Yeah, they they uh they're they would

2805
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:40,320
have to gear up. We'd have to gear up.

2806
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,480
Luckily, we would not have to knock out

2807
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:45,040
a wall and build more building right

2808
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,040
now. We can we could fit the dispatchers

2809
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,280
in there that would handle they'd have

2810
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,119
like six more dispatchers that would

2811
01:45:51,119 --> 01:45:56,000
just kind of be added to the group. um

2812
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:00,950
the final numbers

2813
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,800
there was a big argument about that and

2814
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,199
I learned a little bit about one of the

2815
01:46:05,199 --> 01:46:07,199
cities in the county whose city

2816
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:09,679
councelor was there as a representative

2817
01:46:09,679 --> 01:46:12,719
he's a bud

2818
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:15,040
and I go public saying that I didn't say

2819
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:18,320
which city it was so but anyway um

2820
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:19,199
>> he knows who he is

2821
01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:21,199
>> and we got into we got into a real

2822
01:46:21,199 --> 01:46:23,520
heated discussion and frankly I was

2823
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,080
embarrassed about us doing that in front

2824
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,159
of more of Lyndon, you know, potential

2825
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:30,960
customers, you know. So, so I kind of

2826
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,560
got animated and and and

2827
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,280
uh we we ended up voting and passing on

2828
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,520
the agreement that we that we wanted to

2829
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,199
give ORM and um and basically what it

2830
01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:48,880
means is everybody's costs that are

2831
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,440
already on dispatch would reduce 20%

2832
01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:54,159
every year. So that means to Woodland

2833
01:46:54,159 --> 01:46:56,960
Hills we would pay $4,000 less every

2834
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,040
year and that's not a bad thing, you

2835
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,920
know. So plus I think we'll get better

2836
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,239
service because they'll have better

2837
01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:07,520
equipment and they can beep up and add

2838
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,119
to it.

2839
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:10,880
>> So it's a done deal.

2840
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,000
>> No. Well, it it could be.

2841
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,040
>> This is kind of

2842
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,199
>> Orum was going to go back and we'll hear

2843
01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:19,280
about it next meeting probably what

2844
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,520
their what their answers are. If they

2845
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,520
say yes, then we start the process and

2846
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,719
it takes a year to get everything worked

2847
01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:32,080
out, training, all the employees hired,

2848
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,520
all that sort of thing. Um,

2849
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,520
then

2850
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,199
yeah, take a good year to get them

2851
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:43,360
converted to us. Um,

2852
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,440
there's there's hardware stuff involved,

2853
01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:48,000
too. There's there's radios and so on.

2854
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,400
So that's that's the story from that.

2855
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,320
But I'm just uh

2856
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,480
>> you think both of them will want

2857
01:47:54,480 --> 01:47:56,159
>> Yeah, they'll come as a package.

2858
01:47:56,159 --> 01:47:56,560
>> Okay.

2859
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,880
>> Um there was also a representative at

2860
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:00,880
the meeting from Metro, which is the

2861
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,040
name of the company that runs them

2862
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,159
currently. So they were, you know, years

2863
01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:09,840
to see what we were going to do, too. Um

2864
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,000
so that's the that's the gist of that.

2865
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,320
So I'll keep you updated.

2866
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:18,080
>> Thank you, Nor. We appreciate you.

2867
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,270
Okay.

2868
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:25,360
So, mayor, city council reports. Um, if

2869
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,760
we can, council member Hutchkins has

2870
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:29,760
requested uh to be able to run a

2871
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,920
presentation during his so he may exceed

2872
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,600
the the five minute request um or less.

2873
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,159
>> Ask for a five minute video and that's

2874
01:48:38,159 --> 01:48:40,960
>> that is he he'll be close and then we'll

2875
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,719
discuss probably something about the

2876
01:48:42,719 --> 01:48:45,360
video, but we'll see. Um, I would like

2877
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,280
to start though, there's nothing really

2878
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,440
with Mag and Cog. Um, things have been a

2879
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:52,480
little light with the summer months. Um,

2880
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:55,119
SCSD, everything is going well there.

2881
01:48:55,119 --> 01:48:55,520
Yes.

2882
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,280
>> I just heard there's something the

2883
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,199
transfer station

2884
01:48:59,199 --> 01:49:00,639
>> getting there. Yeah.

2885
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:04,800
>> So, SCSD, um, everything is actually

2886
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,440
looking really good at SCSD. I don't

2887
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:08,800
know if you guys have heard, Steve

2888
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,239
probably has, um,

2889
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:14,719
that Rocky Mountain is raising their

2890
01:49:14,719 --> 01:49:17,920
rates quite significantly. Again, we are

2891
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,960
not. Uh, we have no price hike in the

2892
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,440
near future. We're actually looking at

2893
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:27,760
buying. So, SCSD is a brokerage. We do

2894
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:29,360
not make any of our own power

2895
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,600
electricity. we just buy it off the

2896
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,320
market and then service um the diff

2897
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,239
different areas within the SASD network.

2898
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:41,520
It is quite fascinating because we are

2899
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,880
part of a group that currently has kind

2900
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,199
of also now gotten in bed with

2901
01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:50,239
California Power. Um and so we're

2902
01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:53,600
contractually obligated to kind of join

2903
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,520
with those different uh

2904
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,080
court decisions. I'll put it that way.

2905
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,679
Um,

2906
01:50:01,679 --> 01:50:03,840
we are currently potentially going to be

2907
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,760
able to sell those that contract to a

2908
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,600
different city who is in desperate need

2909
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,480
of that electricity. Um, and we are

2910
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:13,119
going to

2911
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:13,840
>> part of that.

2912
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:14,239
>> No.

2913
01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:14,960
>> Okay.

2914
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,560
>> No. Uh, we are potentially going to

2915
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:22,480
start getting power from a plant out in

2916
01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:25,520
I think out on the west side of Utah.

2917
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,159
Um, and with that we will be able to

2918
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:30,000
potentially actually push down the

2919
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,400
number of savings to the members of

2920
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,239
SCSD.

2921
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:36,719
>> Really excited about that possibility.

2922
01:50:36,719 --> 01:50:38,800
Um, we're working on it. It is not a

2923
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,719
done deal by any stretch, but something

2924
01:50:40,719 --> 01:50:44,480
to to think about. Um, now the Dry Creek

2925
01:50:44,480 --> 01:50:47,520
Transfer Station,

2926
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,920
uh, the Dry Creek Transfer Station had a

2927
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,360
really fun weekend. Um, and by fun I

2928
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:56,159
mean not that fun.

2929
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:57,760
Um,

2930
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,400
on Saturday,

2931
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:04,000
uh, just around noon, we had an

2932
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:07,600
individual, a resident of somewhere, we

2933
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,400
don't know who it is, um, came and

2934
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,040
delivered and dropped off some sort of

2935
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,119
flammable liquid.

2936
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:17,440
um that flammable liquid from what we

2937
01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:19,600
are seeing in the camera feed as we

2938
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,560
watched uh kind of who was there and

2939
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,119
when it got dropped off something

2940
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:28,239
sparked it and it the flame rolled

2941
01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:30,000
across the pile. That's why we're not

2942
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,800
thinking it was a battery. Um and we why

2943
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,040
we're thinking it was a a liquid of some

2944
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:40,480
sort. um due to one critical failure of

2945
01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:43,119
the new transfer stations

2946
01:51:43,119 --> 01:51:47,040
emergency systems mainly the exploding

2947
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:53,119
open uh door kind of sunlight sun what's

2948
01:51:53,119 --> 01:51:55,360
the sunroof the

2949
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,000
>> skylight on the roof they are supposed

2950
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,960
to blow open I learned today because I

2951
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,440
went down there today um because they're

2952
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:06,639
open today um I went down and apparently

2953
01:52:06,639 --> 01:52:08,719
that company is no longer in business.

2954
01:52:08,719 --> 01:52:11,360
So we can't even warranty them.

2955
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,320
>> So that's not the good news. But they

2956
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:15,840
did not open like they would. So it

2957
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,000
trapped most of the smoke which was

2958
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:22,159
horrendous. We had zero zero visibility.

2959
01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:25,119
But the fire was triggered and alerted

2960
01:52:25,119 --> 01:52:29,040
to Spanish Fork and Dispatch via our

2961
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,920
infrared heat cameras. So that worked

2962
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,320
perfectly. But by the time our

2963
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,800
individual who was trained on our water

2964
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,960
cannons in the ceiling was able to

2965
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,119
actually get to the controls of the

2966
01:52:41,119 --> 01:52:42,800
water cannons, there was zero

2967
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,280
visibility. And so we had our sprinkler

2968
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:46,960
system though that activated and was

2969
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,760
doing its job. But because we could not

2970
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,599
see, we tried to just throw the water

2971
01:52:51,599 --> 01:52:53,360
cannons around to try and keep the

2972
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:57,040
temperatures down, which worked until we

2973
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,040
kind of pulled by the time all other

2974
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,199
departments showed up, they pulled

2975
01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:02,880
pretty much all the water that Spanish

2976
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,119
Fort could deliver to that region of

2977
01:53:05,119 --> 01:53:07,280
their city. And so we turned the water

2978
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,920
cannons off uh by instructing a few of

2979
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:11,679
the firemen that ran in there for us to

2980
01:53:11,679 --> 01:53:13,840
turn those off. And thus that really

2981
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,159
kind of helped bump it a little bit. Um

2982
01:53:16,159 --> 01:53:19,599
we our department was dispatched there.

2983
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:22,159
Um so thank you for that. Brian himself

2984
01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:26,000
was there. Um but

2985
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,239
there is really very very minimal

2986
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:29,119
damage. Um

2987
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:32,560
>> the net had

2988
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,239
right above where the fire was. We had a

2989
01:53:36,239 --> 01:53:39,199
slight melting and that was it.

2990
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:39,520
>> Wow.

2991
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,320
>> So the bird net is mostly fine. We had a

2992
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,880
structural engineer there yesterday.

2993
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,719
There was no structural damage to the

2994
01:53:46,719 --> 01:53:49,199
building at all. All compactors were

2995
01:53:49,199 --> 01:53:51,599
protected by the push wall. The building

2996
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:54,719
worked exactly as it was designed minus

2997
01:53:54,719 --> 01:53:59,510
the smoke.

2998
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:00,639
» They didn't open.

2999
01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:04,159
>> So the we had a few firemen go up and

3000
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,560
cut the skylights open to try and help

3001
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:07,840
ventilate.

3002
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,960
>> Um there was a lot of chatter that was

3003
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,800
misinterpreted. Um we'll leave whom uh

3004
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,520
anonymous, but I had heard at one point

3005
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,280
the roof of the building had collapsed.

3006
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,520
I had heard we had lost a fireman, that

3007
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:25,360
we had one in peril, we lost to two off

3008
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:28,400
or members of staff for the transfer

3009
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,360
station had been lost inside.

3010
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:35,360
None of that actually was true. Um and

3011
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,280
everything is working perfectly. So I

3012
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:38,880
went down there, like I said, today and

3013
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:42,560
I delivered some some garbage. And I was

3014
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:46,639
joking with uh the head of operations

3015
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:48,080
there and I said, "Well, we looks like

3016
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,239
we need a fire every year just to clean

3017
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:52,639
the building out cuz it looks brand

3018
01:54:52,639 --> 01:54:55,920
new." Um squeaky clean. When you throw

3019
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,480
that much water into a building, you can

3020
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,679
really clean the floor really well.

3021
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:03,840
>> Um so worked out really well.

3022
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,280
>> They set so much why they couldn't give

3023
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,159
them any more water. Um, and it actually

3024
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:11,920
set off commercial fire alarms on their

3025
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,400
uh flow. They were getting flow sensors

3026
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,159
on three different fire alarms as we

3027
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:18,480
were leaving. There were three buildings

3028
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,400
that were evacuated

3029
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,159
um because their fire alarms went off

3030
01:55:22,159 --> 01:55:23,679
and it was because the flow was running

3031
01:55:23,679 --> 01:55:24,880
backwards.

3032
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:25,679
>> Oh.

3033
01:55:25,679 --> 01:55:27,760
>> Because their pressurized systems backed

3034
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,239
off when the water pressure went so low

3035
01:55:30,239 --> 01:55:32,560
that it caused it to see a flow alarm in

3036
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:34,400
their fire system. Ted knows about these

3037
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:40,560
things and it it was impressive.

3038
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,239
>> They had to keep rotating the fireman

3039
01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:43,920
out through it because the smoke was so

3040
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:44,719
strong and the heat

3041
01:55:44,719 --> 01:55:49,280
>> and the heat the heat was unreal.

3042
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:52,480
>> And those guys were inside of there.

3043
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,880
>> There was one I heard that got treated

3044
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,880
for a heat illness. Two. Was there two?

3045
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,880
all that gear. You guys have

3046
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:05,280
>> Springville's C team. Again, another

3047
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,840
plus for uh what Aaron wants to do and

3048
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,080
bringing C here. They're Springville C

3049
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,480
team is like they're they're the gold

3050
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,639
standard. They're awesome and they were

3051
01:56:16,639 --> 01:56:19,520
there and they were just taking care of

3052
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,800
everybody. Incredible group of people.

3053
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,639
I was extremely impressed with the

3054
01:56:24,639 --> 01:56:26,880
county and so this is kind of a kudos to

3055
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,719
the fire department's integration across

3056
01:56:28,719 --> 01:56:31,599
the entire county. Lehi was in Spanish

3057
01:56:31,599 --> 01:56:34,320
Fork backfilling because all of Spanish

3058
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,159
Fork's assets were at the transfer

3059
01:56:36,159 --> 01:56:36,560
station.

3060
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,599
>> Provo to Santa every station from Provos

3061
01:56:39,599 --> 01:56:40,480
to Santa.

3062
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,520
>> It was impressive. So, but

3063
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,400
>> forum got called out the next day to it.

3064
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:46,960
>> Later that night

3065
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,679
>> or later that night. So,

3066
01:56:49,679 --> 01:56:53,189
>> building worked.

3067
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:58,960
Yeah, it was it was scary, but it was also

3068
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,760
impressive to see how fabulous it went.

3069
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,719
Uh my last one is for the legal updates.

3070
01:57:04,719 --> 01:57:06,719
Um

3071
01:57:06,719 --> 01:57:09,679
I want to uh say something more on the

3072
01:57:09,679 --> 01:57:12,560
record here. Um

3073
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,400
and for those that are not aware, that

3074
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:18,080
is fine. But I want to say something um

3075
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:22,080
publicly and I'll get in trouble later.

3076
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:27,760
But we have a dear friend um publicly uh

3077
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,480
thinking that it is his uh personal job

3078
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,840
which he has certain rights to do um to

3079
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,599
post certain political cartoons which

3080
01:57:37,599 --> 01:57:40,400
are fine. Um he has freedom of speech

3081
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,440
which is fine. However

3082
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:46,880
um they have uh meandered outside the

3083
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,760
scope of just coming after the six of

3084
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,239
us. Um, as elected officials, we have

3085
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:54,800
somewhat signed up for that uh degree of

3086
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,440
scrutiny. Um, and if there is anything

3087
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:00,560
valid, legal or truthful that needs to

3088
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:02,159
be brought forward by members of the

3089
01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:03,840
community, we are always open to that

3090
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:07,199
type of criticism or even better, uh,

3091
01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:09,840
suggestions for how we can make make our

3092
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:14,000
city run better. Um, many of these have

3093
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,360
gone after former elected officials,

3094
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,239
which have been abhorent. um and quite

3095
01:58:20,239 --> 01:58:21,760
disgusting

3096
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:25,119
um as well as our staff um and if it

3097
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:26,800
proceeds

3098
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:30,880
um then discussions need to take place

3099
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,159
uh further um on what the options are

3100
01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:37,119
there. So if they want to come after the

3101
01:58:37,119 --> 01:58:40,639
six of us who are politically elected,

3102
01:58:40,639 --> 01:58:43,679
uh we we are here to to take those

3103
01:58:43,679 --> 01:58:46,400
arrows for the community. But if they

3104
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,760
extend beyond that, um we will be

3105
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,599
discussing with legal counsel what are

3106
01:58:51,599 --> 01:58:53,840
the the options to protect those that

3107
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,239
serve our community in non-elected

3108
01:58:56,239 --> 01:58:58,080
positions.

3109
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:01,920
And that is uh all I have to say on

3110
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:03,119
that, Terry.

3111
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:04,320
>> Yeah.

3112
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:08,080
Um, most recently our clerk has been um

3113
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,360
targeted um for not having an advanced

3114
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:14,400
degree. And so I did contact the state

3115
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,360
and the and verified with the league

3116
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,920
that um municipal clerks and reporters

3117
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,239
do not have to have a college degree to

3118
01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:24,480
have their job. All qualifications are

3119
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,360
set at the local level. They have to be

3120
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,280
a registered voter and live within the

3121
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,960
municipality that they serve. Um, in

3122
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,760
addition, um,

3123
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,800
we send our clerk to the Utah Municipal

3124
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,119
Clerk's Association for multiple

3125
01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:45,599
trainings. And if I'm correct, she has

3126
01:59:45,599 --> 01:59:48,480
the Utah Certified Clerk credential,

3127
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,080
which means that she is up to date on

3128
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:55,280
her skills, her knowledge, and code. And

3129
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:58,239
so, according to our standards, she

3130
01:59:58,239 --> 01:59:59,760
qualifies.

3131
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,560
And personally, we know that including

3132
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,639
then institutional knowledge, she's

3133
02:00:04,639 --> 02:00:07,280
overqualified for what we actually have

3134
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:10,800
her do. And um we appreciate you, Jodie,

3135
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,199
and we want you to know that we support

3136
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:15,199
you and we want our residents to know,

3137
02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:17,679
whoever listens to this, that our clerk

3138
02:00:17,679 --> 02:00:21,440
is qualified 100% to be here in this

3139
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:22,960
position.

3140
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,880
There's no code, state code that is

3141
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:29,119
broken for her to be in this position.

3142
02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:31,520
Thank you.

3143
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:34,000
>> I just want to add that I've sat in on a

3144
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:35,840
few meetings when we're having a

3145
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,040
discussion and somebody is trying to

3146
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:40,800
bring up some information but they don't

3147
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,320
quite recall the details and within two

3148
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:46,560
minutes Jod's like I just emailed it to

3149
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:49,599
you. She knows where she has the record.

3150
02:00:49,599 --> 02:00:51,199
She knows where everything is. She can

3151
02:00:51,199 --> 02:00:53,280
find it fast. She's very organized and

3152
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,320
has an amazing system. I just the the

3153
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,239
meeting I sat in on this week, I was

3154
02:00:58,239 --> 02:00:59,679
impressed. She there were several things

3155
02:00:59,679 --> 02:01:01,920
that she just found them and she sent

3156
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,000
them to the person that wasn't sure on

3157
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:05,599
the information and she had it at her

3158
02:01:05,599 --> 02:01:07,679
fingertips and I mean that's a huge

3159
02:01:07,679 --> 02:01:10,320
asset. I just had to put my two cents

3160
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:12,400
on.

3161
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:15,520
>> Perfect. On a lighter note, Council

3162
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:16,880
Member Hutchkins.

3163
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,360
>> Okay. So, uh, on January 1st, I'd send

3164
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,880
you all the invite to the, uh, the

3165
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,280
Central Utah meeting that was that was

3166
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,520
held. Um, if you guys don't know about

3167
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,480
Strawberry and how Strawberry Water came

3168
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,080
about, you'll learn a little bit in this

3169
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:34,560
video, but Strawberry Water has got a

3170
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,760
fantastic video on this. I got to see,

3171
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:39,760
and you can check it out on YouTube. I

3172
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:41,199
recommend it. This one's also on

3173
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:44,639
YouTube. Um, but this is talking about

3174
02:01:44,639 --> 02:01:46,159
the papers that I gave to you. This is

3175
02:01:46,159 --> 02:01:50,159
the the Nebo MU uh what is it called?

3176
02:01:50,159 --> 02:01:53,199
Mutual. Yeah, the Nebo regional water

3177
02:01:53,199 --> 02:01:56,159
project. There we go. Um so this is

3178
02:01:56,159 --> 02:01:59,199
talking about the the

3179
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:00,800
uh

3180
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,320
the the water plant that they're

3181
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:03,760
planning on putting down here across

3182
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:05,440
from three bridges and and things like

3183
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,360
that. So So this goes through it's a

3184
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:10,000
really great video and I think this is

3185
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:11,760
going to explain it a lot better. So

3186
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:15,040
hopefully the sound

3187
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:16,080
>> on YouTube.

3188
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:17,840
>> Yeah, she just wants the link to put

3189
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:18,320
with the

3190
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:19,119
>> Oh, I can do that

3191
02:02:19,119 --> 02:02:22,480
>> with the minutes.

3192
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,480
>> What the heck? How do we do this?

3193
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:24,960
>> Close.

3194
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:26,480
>> Do I have to unmute or something?

3195
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:27,920
>> No, just crank it up.

3196
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:29,920
>> It might even be the TV.

3197
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:43,030
>> It's coming on my speakers.

3198
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,119
This is the southern reach of Utah

3199
02:02:45,119 --> 02:02:48,560
Valley. It stretches from Spanish Fort

3200
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:52,639
Canyon in the east to Gan in the west

3201
02:02:52,639 --> 02:03:01,430
and Jab County to the south.

3202
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:04,560
It's a land of orchards.

3203
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:09,599
Alpha country, home to 200,000

3204
02:03:09,599 --> 02:03:14,400
people and in 40 years time 300,000

3205
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:16,400
more.

3206
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:18,639
In the year 1899,

3207
02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:21,440
South Utah County was a dry place

3208
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:24,560
settled by intrepid homesteaders.

3209
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,199
The Utah Lake Basin water supply was

3210
02:03:27,199 --> 02:03:30,480
overtaxed. It could only support limited

3211
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:32,400
agriculture and development in the

3212
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:37,520
south. A citizens committee was formed.

3213
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:40,159
Governor Keer Manning Wells received a

3214
02:03:40,159 --> 02:03:43,599
petition to ascertain if the waters of

3215
02:03:43,599 --> 02:03:46,239
Strawberry Creek and Strawberry Valley

3216
02:03:46,239 --> 02:03:48,239
could be brought into Springville

3217
02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:51,119
through Spanish Fork Canyon for

3218
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:53,520
irrigation purposes.

3219
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:56,000
The Strawberry Valley is a high mountain

3220
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,880
basin in the Uintas.

3221
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:01,840
Strawberry Creek was impounded by the

3222
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:03,679
Strawberry Dam.

3223
02:04:03,679 --> 02:04:07,920
an earthfilled structure 72 ft high and

3224
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,560
600 ft long.

3225
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:13,520
But Strawberry Reservoir alone would not

3226
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:17,199
deliver water to Utah Valley. The Wasach

3227
02:04:17,199 --> 02:04:20,960
Range stood in the way.

3228
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:24,560
A fourmile tunnel was proposed to be dug

3229
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,840
through the mountain. Two digging teams

3230
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:36,149
worked for six years.

3231
02:04:36,159 --> 02:04:38,800
But the two tunnels meant they were mere

3232
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,760
inches apart.

3233
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,000
The strawberry waters reached Utah

3234
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,960
Valley in 1913.

3235
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,239
The project was a triumph of engineering

3236
02:04:50,239 --> 02:04:53,280
which has served our valley well.

3237
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:55,920
A century has passed.

3238
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:59,360
The Strawberry Valley Project alongside

3239
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:02,880
the central Utah project made possible

3240
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:06,560
the Utah Valley we recognize today.

3241
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,040
Without the remarkable foresight of our

3242
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:12,239
19th century county fathers, only a

3243
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:14,400
fraction of South Utah Valley's

3244
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:18,400
agriculture would exist. Today, Utah

3245
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:22,400
Valley's demand for water is changing.

3246
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,360
The demands of our grandchildren's Utah

3247
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:28,080
Valley are not going to be the same as

3248
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,320
the present day.

3249
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:32,639
The stakes are high. The coming

3250
02:05:32,639 --> 02:05:35,520
generations will depend upon our ability

3251
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,080
to supply them with water that will meet

3252
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:40,880
their needs. This once in a lifetime

3253
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:45,440
challenge has been met by a proposal,

3254
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:47,520
one that matches the ambitions of those

3255
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:50,880
that lived a 100 years ago. This

3256
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,440
proposal merges the visions of the

3257
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:56,400
Strawberry Valley Project and Central

3258
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:59,760
Utah project working in harmony. To meet

3259
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,199
these future needs, the Nebo Regional

3260
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:06,480
Water Project, as it is called, prepares

3261
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:09,920
South Utah Valley and Chad County for

3262
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:13,040
the next century. The proposal includes

3263
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:16,159
the following. A state-of-the-art water

3264
02:06:16,159 --> 02:06:19,040
treatment plant in Salem to supplement

3265
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,960
the limited aquifer sources.

3266
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,760
in closing the Strawberry Highline Canal

3267
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:29,360
to improve safety and water quality and

3268
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:33,199
to reduce inefficiency and loss. Clean,

3269
02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:36,159
safe water pipelines to Gan and Jwab

3270
02:06:36,159 --> 02:06:39,520
County. The plan also calls for a

3271
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,159
multi-use community trail at top the new

3272
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:45,040
Highline Canal pipeline.

3273
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:48,400
This proposal allows agricultural users

3274
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,199
to continue farming with an eye to the

3275
02:06:51,199 --> 02:06:54,239
next 100 years.

3276
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:57,520
Our water needs have never been met by

3277
02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:00,000
small ideas.

3278
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,560
Those who once proposed the Strawberry

3279
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:05,119
Valley Project could hardly comprehend

3280
02:07:05,119 --> 02:07:08,320
the agricultural bounty their work would

3281
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:10,079
support.

3282
02:07:10,079 --> 02:07:13,360
Today, we can only do our best to honor

3283
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,079
their foresight with forward thinking of

3284
02:07:16,079 --> 02:07:19,920
our own. The Nebo Regional Water Project

3285
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:22,239
allows us to entrust Southern Utah

3286
02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:25,520
Valley to future generations with clean

3287
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:36,470
water as our gift to them.

3288
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:40,000
Walking makes you old. Tai Chi

3289
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:43,199
Okay. So,

3290
02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:46,800
>> that might have been the greatest

3291
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:48,960
movie ever.

3292
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,199
>> I think he needs to do my video.

3293
02:07:51,199 --> 02:07:51,520
>> Yeah.

3294
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:53,599
he was good.

3295
02:07:53,599 --> 02:07:55,360
>> Did he stood in a pasture?

3296
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:56,400
>> I need to.

3297
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:56,639
>> Yeah,

3298
02:07:56,639 --> 02:07:57,280
>> that would help.

3299
02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:58,719
>> Several of the places he was standing, I

3300
02:07:58,719 --> 02:08:00,000
was like, I know where that spot is.

3301
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,000
>> I know. One with the trees and he's by

3302
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,480
the road. That's Santa. Anyway, it was

3303
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,000
funny. I was like, I know where he's at.

3304
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,320
Central Utah Water Project just laid

3305
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,880
last month its last piece of pipe. Now,

3306
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:13,199
the project's not over. That's actually

3307
02:08:13,199 --> 02:08:15,679
going to continue with with more things,

3308
02:08:15,679 --> 02:08:20,400
but what we're talking about is this Nebo project um that we've all

3309
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,480
heard about and have these, you know,

3310
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,719
the expectations. So, wanted to give

3311
02:08:24,719 --> 02:08:26,159
that to you and tell you that there's

3312
02:08:26,159 --> 02:08:28,480
lots of information and I have the

3313
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:31,840
contact for all of these organizations

3314
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:33,760
because I I I work with them at least

3315
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:36,800
monthly. Um, and so if you have

3316
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:38,960
questions, if you have information that

3317
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:41,119
you would like to get out to get from

3318
02:08:41,119 --> 02:08:43,119
them, feel free to reach out to me.

3319
02:08:43,119 --> 02:08:45,440
That's kind of what I'm I'm doing there.

3320
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,880
Um, and uh, you know, this this is

3321
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:50,400
actually pretty impressive what what

3322
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,400
they put together and what they've

3323
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:54,719
started here. Central Utah Water is

3324
02:08:54,719 --> 02:08:56,320
you'll see it on your taxes, right? as

3325
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,880
part of our property taxes. Um they

3326
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:00,880
built that organization so that they

3327
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:03,440
could tax and actually put these

3328
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:05,119
infrastructure projects together. So

3329
02:09:05,119 --> 02:09:07,280
that's the whole purpose of central Utah

3330
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:11,280
water. Um and you know I'm on I'm on the

3331
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,400
nebo board and I'm on South Utah Valley

3332
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:19,119
which is supported by both of those.

3333
02:09:19,119 --> 02:09:20,320
>> Just a question.

3334
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,520
>> Um so it's pulling out of Strawberry

3335
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:24,960
Reservoir. Is that correct?

3336
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:26,079
>> Yes.

3337
02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:27,599
So

3338
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:30,480
with new water going all the way down

3339
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:34,480
into say defi county um right now that

3340
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:36,239
water's not flowing down that far or is

3341
02:09:36,239 --> 02:09:37,360
it getting down there but just through

3342
02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:40,159
inefficient channels of canals or I'm

3343
02:09:40,159 --> 02:09:41,679
just wondering if you have a certain

3344
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:43,920
number amount of water now we're going

3345
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,880
to add the tributaries out of that

3346
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,400
reservoir what's the plan to keep is the

3347
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:51,440
reservoir going to

3348
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:53,360
>> so they they actually so what they're

3349
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,199
one of one of there's a whole bunch of

3350
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:58,079
goals to it. One of the goals is to

3351
02:09:58,079 --> 02:10:00,400
monitor. So we we put into place

3352
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,719
monitoring of our aquifers and our

3353
02:10:02,719 --> 02:10:04,000
groundwater. And this is a big

3354
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,800
groundwater source. And they want to be

3355
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:10,560
able to balance those poles and and

3356
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:12,719
that's one of the big big projects here.

3357
02:10:12,719 --> 02:10:14,320
And there's just not enough water. We're

3358
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:16,159
not getting enough water through the the

3359
02:10:16,159 --> 02:10:21,920
original tunnel. Um and the dam is much larger than it was when they

3360
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:24,719
originally put it in. So strawberry is

3361
02:10:24,719 --> 02:10:26,239
Ted, do you know it's like three or four

3362
02:10:26,239 --> 02:10:29,760
times the size it was originally.

3363
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,079
Um it's it's a lot bigger than it was.

3364
02:10:32,079 --> 02:10:34,239
So there's more water to to to actually

3365
02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:35,760
pull from there. And and there's

3366
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:37,440
projects all over. This is just the one

3367
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:40,159
to get that surface water more available

3368
02:10:40,159 --> 02:10:44,480
and more ready to use. Um

3369
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:46,960
>> too things they do like closing the

3370
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:47,840
canal

3371
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,159
>> that actually produces water. you're not

3372
02:10:50,159 --> 02:10:51,920
losing it to the ground and to the

3373
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:53,599
evaporation

3374
02:10:53,599 --> 02:10:55,280
to produce water. So, some of that now

3375
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:58,719
water's available to distribute to other

3376
02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:01,599
counties. So, JWAB um the project is

3377
02:11:01,599 --> 02:11:02,800
extended. I think it goes as far as

3378
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:04,239
Santa right now. Okay.

3379
02:11:04,239 --> 02:11:05,520
>> But eventually they want to get it over

3380
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:08,639
into JWAB and some of that will come

3381
02:11:08,639 --> 02:11:12,159
through these savings of waters

3382
02:11:12,159 --> 02:11:14,719
the canals and stuff like that. Um a lot

3383
02:11:14,719 --> 02:11:18,639
of these these waters have already been

3384
02:11:18,639 --> 02:11:22,560
blocked out for communities. Um they

3385
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:25,119
have for example we have it's available

3386
02:11:25,119 --> 02:11:31,119
to us water we find a way to take it. So

3387
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:32,880
they they've kind of accounted for the

3388
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:34,719
water already and then the savings that

3389
02:11:34,719 --> 02:11:38,000
come also attribute to

3390
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:39,520
some of that water was produced for

3391
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,840
these other

3392
02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:43,599
counties actually promised water.

3393
02:11:43,599 --> 02:11:46,960
central Utah project years ago and kind

3394
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:49,520
of that kind of

3395
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:51,679
that went away and so now it's part of

3396
02:11:51,679 --> 02:11:54,000
this water project there see if we get

3397
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:55,760
more back

3398
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:57,840
>> yeah I just wondered if I mean let's say

3399
02:11:57,840 --> 02:11:59,760
it gets completed all the way to end

3400
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,079
state 10 years from now I don't know how

3401
02:12:02,079 --> 02:12:05,119
long um the water that's there from now

3402
02:12:05,119 --> 02:12:07,119
until that it starts flowing that far

3403
02:12:07,119 --> 02:12:08,719
south does it just stay in the reservoir

3404
02:12:08,719 --> 02:12:11,760
or is it just being dumped into Utah

3405
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:13,679
Lake and then eventually down Uh, I

3406
02:12:13,679 --> 02:12:14,800
mean, you see what I'm saying? So, if

3407
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:16,079
you have a if you have a bucket full of

3408
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:19,360
water that's allocated to future use and

3409
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:21,440
that's not available to flow there, it's

3410
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:22,880
still staying in the bucket or is it

3411
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,480
being let out and being used somewhere

3412
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,159
else? Like, is somebody going to be

3413
02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:29,199
losing their water access because we're

3414
02:12:29,199 --> 02:12:30,239
now going to be pushing it?

3415
02:12:30,239 --> 02:12:32,639
>> That I'm not sure and I can ask.

3416
02:12:32,639 --> 02:12:34,079
>> I'm just I'm just wondering just because

3417
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:35,920
it's a big deal right now.

3418
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:38,639
>> Yeah. So, in effect they're producing

3419
02:12:38,639 --> 02:12:40,480
more water. So that water now becomes

3420
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,880
available for example like j's a whole

3421
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:44,400
bunch of commitments with this water too

3422
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:46,079
because there's commitments for Utah

3423
02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:48,079
lake you have to keep certain in stream

3424
02:12:48,079 --> 02:12:49,040
flows to keep things

3425
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:50,239
>> that's kind of where I'm thinking it's

3426
02:12:50,239 --> 02:12:52,079
like we're it feels like we're

3427
02:12:52,079 --> 02:12:53,840
struggling just to keep our flow rates

3428
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:55,360
as they should be especially in a

3429
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,400
drought year like this year but in in in

3430
02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:01,760
when we have abundant years um do we

3431
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:04,719
just let it just go and it ends up in

3432
02:13:04,719 --> 02:13:07,119
who knows where or is it saved in and

3433
02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:09,199
reserved for future use like these There

3434
02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:11,840
is certain reserve that's kept in place

3435
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:16,800
and and and it's good it is because um

3436
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:19,280
this year with the winter we had we had

3437
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:21,920
a horrible runoff here but we had enough

3438
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,480
reserves in the reservoirs to help us

3439
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,159
get through this year from the

3440
02:13:26,159 --> 02:13:27,920
>> good winters we had. Yeah.

3441
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:29,520
>> So there was enough reserve there. Now

3442
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:31,760
if we have two bad winners in a then

3443
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:33,840
we're really get in trouble. So if you

3444
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:38,069
looked at the beginning of this year

3445
02:13:38,079 --> 02:13:41,760
the beginning of what we had previous

3446
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:43,840
>> um so

3447
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:46,239
yeah it's it's it's not a a simple

3448
02:13:46,239 --> 02:13:48,000
answer but

3449
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:48,639
>> makes sense

3450
02:13:48,639 --> 02:13:50,560
>> they do I mean they they did talk about

3451
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:53,280
how they you know they built straw or

3452
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:55,599
starvation and that you know a after

3453
02:13:55,599 --> 02:13:56,880
strawberry they ended up needing to

3454
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,560
build starvation and then they needed to

3455
02:13:58,560 --> 02:13:59,599
build

3456
02:13:59,599 --> 02:14:03,199
>> um chordell and so all of those, you

3457
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:05,599
know, as water needs are are are

3458
02:14:05,599 --> 02:14:07,199
happening, they're going to they're

3459
02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:08,960
going to end up needing to look for more

3460
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:09,440
sources.

3461
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,199
>> Is this tying into what was done down in

3462
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:12,880
Salem? I don't know if that was a

3463
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:14,159
federal project or is that was

3464
02:14:14,159 --> 02:14:15,119
>> that's the same project.

3465
02:14:15,119 --> 02:14:16,480
>> It's the same project.

3466
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:18,800
>> That was the central Utah water.

3467
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:19,119
>> Yeah.

3468
02:14:19,119 --> 02:14:21,040
>> Okay. So, like

3469
02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:24,079
>> this is Yeah, this is the next project

3470
02:14:24,079 --> 02:14:25,840
after that one was completed.

3471
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:27,440
>> Was that a federal project? The the

3472
02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:29,280
central I just remember seeing a bunch

3473
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:31,599
of federal signs

3474
02:14:31,599 --> 02:14:33,920
Utah conservy district, but Central Utah

3475
02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:35,920
Water Conservancy District has, we'll

3476
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:37,840
call it two halves. They've got their

3477
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:39,679
federal side, which runs the federal

3478
02:14:39,679 --> 02:14:42,000
projects. Um, and that's run under the

3479
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:43,920
Bureau Reclamation with the Central Utah

3480
02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:45,760
District. And then you've got the state

3481
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:48,000
side that runs like the Central Utah

3482
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:51,679
project is a state project. The

3483
02:14:51,679 --> 02:14:52,960
what was that project called was done

3484
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:58,069
back in the 30s and 40s and 50s.

3485
02:14:58,079 --> 02:14:59,920
» Shoot, it just slipped my mind. I know.

3486
02:14:59,920 --> 02:15:02,000
That's a bureau reclamation project and

3487
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,239
central Utah central Utah's kind of

3488
02:15:04,239 --> 02:15:05,840
organized to run that bureau reclamation

3489
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:08,000
project and then just through savings

3490
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:10,719
and becoming a taxing entity now they

3491
02:15:10,719 --> 02:15:12,320
can also do state project so they kind

3492
02:15:12,320 --> 02:15:14,320
of do both. It was a federal project

3493
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:15,760
that was run

3494
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:18,239
>> through the state. Oh, through

3495
02:15:18,239 --> 02:15:20,639
>> the strawberry

3496
02:15:20,639 --> 02:15:23,920
project, the the tunnel

3497
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:27,119
farmers went to DC and took a loan out

3498
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:29,840
from DC for $3 million. Farmers from

3499
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:31,360
here

3500
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:34,400
went, it wasn't the state, it was the

3501
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:37,280
farmers who went to go do that and they

3502
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:39,040
put their necks out on the line to build

3503
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:41,440
that tunnel. The video that that

3504
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:47,109
Strawberry has is really is really good.

3505
02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:47,599
» Wow.

3506
02:15:47,599 --> 02:15:49,360
>> I just want to I just want a stretch of

3507
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:51,520
open water with fish in it so I don't

3508
02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:52,719
have to go all the way to strawberry to

3509
02:15:52,719 --> 02:15:55,679
fish. Give me a fly fishing space right

3510
02:15:55,679 --> 02:15:58,159
here through the bottoms.

3511
02:15:58,159 --> 02:15:59,280
>> I'm all in.

3512
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:00,159
>> Okay, perfect.

3513
02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:02,000
>> Fishing the canals.

3514
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:04,320
>> I want a reservoir in Woodland Hills.

3515
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,360
>> Okay, now we're good.

3516
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:08,800
>> Okay, Council Jones.

3517
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:11,440
>> No, that was my only comment. It's

3518
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:12,239
fishing.

3519
02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:15,040
>> It's fishing. Yeah.

3520
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:16,639
>> You don't have a report. You have a

3521
02:16:16,639 --> 02:16:19,360
report.

3522
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:22,320
>> I spent a lot of time with the UVHBA and

3523
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:25,040
the Utah Home Builders Association. So,

3524
02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:27,360
yeah, but nothing meaningful for the

3525
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:30,400
group unless anybody's got questions.

3526
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:31,520
>> Great.

3527
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:34,549
>> Council,

3528
02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:36,960
I got nothing. Um, just we had the

3529
02:16:36,960 --> 02:16:38,160
American 250.

3530
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:40,479
>> That's awesome.

3531
02:16:40,479 --> 02:16:43,679
Um it was great. We had a good committee

3532
02:16:43,679 --> 02:16:47,359
and um my only you know it was hard. We

3533
02:16:47,359 --> 02:16:52,000
had some opposition and so we we had we

3534
02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:54,319
were a little bit Debbie Downer about

3535
02:16:54,319 --> 02:16:57,120
it. Just didn't know. I think a lot of

3536
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,840
people are afraid to

3537
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:02,319
you know rock the boat and so we were

3538
02:17:02,319 --> 02:17:03,840
worried that a lot of people wouldn't

3539
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:05,280
come. But I was really proud of our

3540
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:06,639
community. We have a lot of rebels and I

3541
02:17:06,639 --> 02:17:10,080
like it. Um anyway, so it was

3542
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:11,280
>> for the record, I don't think that

3543
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:11,920
rebels.

3544
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:14,800
>> Yeah. Is it Is it rebellious to go to

3545
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:16,080
the park on a Sunday?

3546
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:18,000
>> No, it shouldn't be. But um

3547
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:19,280
>> or to eat with your neighbor.

3548
02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:23,519
>> We only shopped for 300. And I know we

3549
02:17:23,519 --> 02:17:25,519
had a lot more than that. So I'm not

3550
02:17:25,519 --> 02:17:28,000
sure.

3551
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:30,399
>> So I'm not sure how that worked, but I

3552
02:17:30,399 --> 02:17:31,760
know that there were people that said,

3553
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:33,519
"I've got

3554
02:17:33,519 --> 02:17:35,679
>> I cooked every one of those I cooked

3555
02:17:35,679 --> 02:17:37,200
every one of those hot dogs." And I'm

3556
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:37,920
telling you,

3557
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:38,479
>> you did

3558
02:17:38,479 --> 02:17:39,280
>> when did

3559
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:41,200
>> when they d when one dropped down on the

3560
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:44,719
ground, it was like we man down like we

3561
02:17:44,719 --> 02:17:49,040
went resurrect. Somebody may have had

3562
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:51,359
a recated hot dog. I'm just kidding. And

3563
02:17:51,359 --> 02:17:52,160
I'm just kidding.

3564
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:53,760
>> That was Dorl. That's fine.

3565
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:55,519
>> Yeah. Hey Dorl, this is yours.

3566
02:17:55,519 --> 02:17:58,000
>> His constitution is ironclad.

3567
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:00,880
>> But we had four long tables set up for

3568
02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:03,519
food donations and we had to add three

3569
02:18:03,519 --> 02:18:03,920
tables.

3570
02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:05,760
>> Wasn't enough. And um

3571
02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:07,599
>> that was that was that was probably the

3572
02:18:07,599 --> 02:18:09,920
most impressive thing to me was we had a

3573
02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:12,960
really long line. So what was nuts is uh

3574
02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:14,719
as I was cooking them, you know, like oh

3575
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:16,080
the line's really long and I'm just

3576
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:17,760
looking to my left. I'm like there's

3577
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:19,040
like 20 people. What are we talking

3578
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:21,679
about? I didn't turn my whole body and

3579
02:18:21,679 --> 02:18:23,760
see the line that

3580
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:24,639
street.

3581
02:18:24,639 --> 02:18:26,399
>> Um but yeah, the number of people that

3582
02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:28,399
brought stuff I was actually kind of

3583
02:18:28,399 --> 02:18:29,920
concerned about that. Not I'm just

3584
02:18:29,920 --> 02:18:33,519
saying like three things. when you do a potluck event, you're just

3585
02:18:33,519 --> 02:18:35,120
really hoping everybody chips in.

3586
02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:37,519
Otherwise, I mean, no pun intended. Um,

3587
02:18:37,519 --> 02:18:40,719
but otherwise, it's going to be a pretty

3588
02:18:40,719 --> 02:18:42,960
sad looking hot dog fest there, you

3589
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:44,800
know, and so it was just great to see

3590
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:47,599
the community. That was awesome. That

3591
02:18:47,599 --> 02:18:49,840
was really That was really great. And

3592
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:51,920
everyone, I think, had a great time.

3593
02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:55,040
>> By the time I got through the line,

3594
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:59,200
I had a hot dog and all the food I ever

3595
02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:01,920
could have wanted. There was so much

3596
02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:05,439
food and it was all really good food. It

3597
02:19:05,439 --> 02:19:06,880
was fun and the weather turned out

3598
02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:07,920
perfectly. It was

3599
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:10,000
>> and we had we had quite a few people who

3600
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:12,319
were brand new residents or who just

3601
02:19:12,319 --> 02:19:14,479
bought a lot and are going to build come

3602
02:19:14,479 --> 02:19:17,120
through and one of them said, "Well, we

3603
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:18,800
just wanted to come to see what kind of

3604
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:21,519
a community we were we were moving into

3605
02:19:21,519 --> 02:19:23,840
to see if we would fit." And we

3606
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:26,479
absolutely fit. This was perfect for us

3607
02:19:26,479 --> 02:19:29,040
to come for our first thing. We had some

3608
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:31,040
people who hadn't been to a community

3609
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:34,000
event since before COVID and felt safe

3610
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:38,399
to come and be there. We had um others

3611
02:19:38,399 --> 02:19:41,359
who may have not come in the past

3612
02:19:41,359 --> 02:19:44,080
because they're a little older and they

3613
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:45,519
worry about coming when

3614
02:19:45,519 --> 02:19:46,080
>> older people

3615
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:48,080
>> when there's a lot of um little kids

3616
02:19:48,080 --> 02:19:49,680
running around or activities like a

3617
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:53,920
festival where there's people just going where they could just sit down,

3618
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:55,760
enjoy their neighbors and be there and

3619
02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:58,000
feel safe and comfortable. So that was

3620
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:01,200
great to have so many of them there. And

3621
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:04,960
then um also there was quite a few that

3622
02:20:04,960 --> 02:20:07,200
were visiting their you know kids that

3623
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:09,120
were are adults now visiting their

3624
02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:12,479
parents and coming back home. And so I

3625
02:20:12,479 --> 02:20:14,399
thought it was a great community event

3626
02:20:14,399 --> 02:20:17,120
and almost everyone said we should do

3627
02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:21,040
this more often. And um I think people

3628
02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:24,160
have missed community and um something

3629
02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:26,720
that I know mayor you've been um that

3630
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:28,720
was one of the things that you want to

3631
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,760
increase and um where people feel

3632
02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:34,560
welcome. They feel like they can not

3633
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:36,399
just know who lives on their street but

3634
02:20:36,399 --> 02:20:39,680
who lives in our city. And um so I

3635
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:42,399
thought it was great. Thanks.

3636
02:20:42,399 --> 02:20:44,960
The only thing the only shortfall was,

3637
02:20:44,960 --> 02:20:47,200
you know, the food, but it worked out.

3638
02:20:47,200 --> 02:20:49,120
And then, um, just the hot dog. I was

3639
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:52,720
worried. But then also, um,

3640
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:54,960
Whitney and I were we were the cleanup

3641
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:57,520
crew, so I would I would, you know, make

3642
02:20:57,520 --> 02:21:00,800
sure I have more more helpers next time.

3643
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:02,640
Whitney helped me. These two were out on

3644
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:06,160
the curb yakin for like put a bunch of

3645
02:21:06,160 --> 02:21:08,160
chairs and tables away. I just had that

3646
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:09,680
condiment tray that I was like, I don't

3647
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:11,040
know if a bear is going to come. We had

3648
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:12,240
the bear out.

3649
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:14,720
>> It didn't do its job. Should have just

3650
02:21:14,720 --> 02:21:16,319
left the food out.

3651
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:17,439
>> Just kidding. I apologize.

3652
02:21:17,439 --> 02:21:20,640
>> I was useless. So, I'll go to that.

3653
02:21:20,640 --> 02:21:22,399
>> It only mattered because I was I was

3654
02:21:22,399 --> 02:21:24,880
still so sick. That was a thing. I

3655
02:21:24,880 --> 02:21:27,920
didn't feel well. But um but yeah, any

3656
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:35,190
other time I wouldn't care.

3657
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:37,600
just expressing their appreciation for

3658
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:40,479
the event, hoping that you do it again.

3659
02:21:40,479 --> 02:21:42,240
Some said, "I hear we're already doing

3660
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:44,640
it again." So,

3661
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:47,200
>> rumor,

3662
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:48,160
>> we're doing it again.

3663
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:50,319
>> We are doing it again.

3664
02:21:50,319 --> 02:21:51,359
>> Okay.

3665
02:21:51,359 --> 02:21:54,080
>> Put it on the the cycle of every year.

3666
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:55,920
This is now an annual thing

3667
02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:57,600
>> except for Okay.

3668
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:00,240
>> Well, maybe we do it this the Saturday

3669
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:02,319
evening or something.

3670
02:22:02,319 --> 02:22:04,800
>> Every year my we go to the cabin for

3671
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:06,880
Fourth of July. So that's why I say

3672
02:22:06,880 --> 02:22:07,280
that.

3673
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:09,760
>> No, we we'll work the schedule. We'll

3674
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:10,800
figure it out.

3675
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:11,200
>> Okay.

3676
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:13,280
>> Uh we'll probably this next year if if

3677
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:15,840
Dorl's correct and the fourth is on

3678
02:22:15,840 --> 02:22:19,040
Sunday, we'll probably push it to the

3679
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:22,240
Saturday or maybe the Sunday after. We

3680
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:23,920
don't have to necessarily put it right

3681
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:25,600
on top of the fourth, but we can.

3682
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:26,160
>> Yeah.

3683
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:28,000
>> Nobody I've never had anybody complain

3684
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,399
to me that we celebrate too much. When

3685
02:22:30,399 --> 02:22:34,000
we get to that point, let's talk again.

3686
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:38,000
Okay. Other than council member John's

3687
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:41,120
Galler Makovich, the Utah Valley Animal

3688
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:41,760
Shelter,

3689
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:44,240
>> no report. We don't meet until August.

3690
02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:49,040
>> Perfect. Okay. Council member Odin. Um

3691
02:22:49,040 --> 02:22:53,359
just from a Speaking of events, um I've

3692
02:22:53,359 --> 02:22:57,920
got the first iteration of our basically

3693
02:22:57,920 --> 02:22:59,359
Microsoftware that's going to help us

3694
02:22:59,359 --> 02:23:00,399
manage

3695
02:23:00,399 --> 02:23:03,040
>> all of our events. So it's just the

3696
02:23:03,040 --> 02:23:06,000
purpose of it is to uh from a data

3697
02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:07,760
ingest perspective to make sure that we

3698
02:23:07,760 --> 02:23:09,840
have vendors of the past that we've used

3699
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:12,640
before bids documentation

3700
02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:15,200
um u uh

3701
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:16,640
>> are you capturing attendance

3702
02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:20,560
>> counts attendance everything here um um

3703
02:23:20,560 --> 02:23:25,200
we have all the events basically here

3704
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:26,560
and you're essentially the way I

3705
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:27,840
designed it is you're going to

3706
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:31,200
essentially have a yearly um the yearly

3707
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:33,120
season season component. So each time

3708
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:34,800
you add the new season, you can draw

3709
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:36,800
from previous, you know, so if you have

3710
02:23:36,800 --> 02:23:38,720
vendors copy and paste, say tables and

3711
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:40,399
chairs for Woodland Hills Days, if we

3712
02:23:40,399 --> 02:23:42,960
find a vendor who's good and affordable,

3713
02:23:42,960 --> 02:23:46,000
we can easily pull them in, see what we

3714
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,720
paid the last time, get a bid. So, and

3715
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:51,600
it will it's all automated. So um and

3716
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:54,399
then everyone who is a chair or co-chair

3717
02:23:54,399 --> 02:23:56,000
will be invited and will have limited

3718
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:57,840
access obviously to certain things that

3719
02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:00,080
they're so already it already has

3720
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:02,319
governance built in and then as soon as

3721
02:24:02,319 --> 02:24:05,200
they released their

3722
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:08,000
access will be removed but we still have

3723
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:10,240
administrative use. So that is ready to

3724
02:24:10,240 --> 02:24:12,080
go. We're going to try it out at our

3725
02:24:12,080 --> 02:24:15,040
next Woodland Hills Days meeting. See

3726
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:17,040
where there's gaps. I'll build out the

3727
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,120
I'll fill those gaps.

3728
02:24:19,120 --> 02:24:20,479
That's great.

3729
02:24:20,479 --> 02:24:22,560
>> It'll eventually be deployed, my plan is

3730
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:24,240
to eventually deploy it on the Woodland

3731
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:27,040
Hills uh domain. So, it'll exist on the

3732
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:31,280
domain. It will be owned through the city. Um and then all the

3733
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:32,720
code and the data set can be matched by

3734
02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:35,280
the city instead.

3735
02:24:35,280 --> 02:24:36,160
>> Thank you.

3736
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:36,960
>> Awesome.

3737
02:24:36,960 --> 02:24:38,479
>> Okay. Anything for upcoming council

3738
02:24:38,479 --> 02:24:39,920
meetings?

3739
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:42,880
I' I'd like to add that maybe we do a

3740
02:24:42,880 --> 02:24:45,359
presentation about that the papers

3741
02:24:45,359 --> 02:24:51,200
fundraiser opportunity pickle wall stuff

3742
02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:52,880
>> just so we could start organizing it. I

3743
02:24:52,880 --> 02:24:54,479
think we probably need to at least right

3744
02:24:54,479 --> 02:24:56,000
on some level. I mean it sounds like

3745
02:24:56,000 --> 02:24:57,760
you've done a lot.

3746
02:24:57,760 --> 02:24:59,359
>> It'd be nice to organize it. I'd also

3747
02:24:59,359 --> 02:25:02,000
like to see if we could get um this

3748
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:02,960
probably be as we get a little bit

3749
02:25:02,960 --> 02:25:04,800
closer, but like it's always helpful if

3750
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:06,000
you have a goal instead of just an

3751
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:08,080
open-ended like if we can have a goal

3752
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:10,319
set of what the gap is between the

3753
02:25:10,319 --> 02:25:12,319
funding and what we want to do and

3754
02:25:12,319 --> 02:25:13,680
because it does help when people know

3755
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:16,640
where there's a target. I know we did uh

3756
02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:18,880
several well when I did Hill days chair

3757
02:25:18,880 --> 02:25:21,920
we did an infrared camera fund raise if

3758
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,280
I remember

3759
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:25,760
>> um and we knew what it was. We got a lot

3760
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:28,560
of $20 donations. That was awesome. And

3761
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:32,319
then we had a former mayor who saw a gap

3762
02:25:32,319 --> 02:25:35,359
of $482 and that was her donation.

3763
02:25:35,359 --> 02:25:37,280
>> She asked, "What are we short?"

3764
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:38,319
>> Yeah. She's like, "What are we short?"

3765
02:25:38,319 --> 02:25:39,040
And she made

3766
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:40,560
>> We told her and she Yeah.

3767
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:44,479
>> And so it was awesome to see. So, but if we didn't know what we were raising

3768
02:25:44,479 --> 02:25:46,640
toward, I don't know if anybody would

3769
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:48,319
>> Yeah, that's a great idea.

3770
02:25:48,319 --> 02:25:49,600
>> So, let's let's figure out what we're

3771
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:51,120
actually raising toward so people feel

3772
02:25:51,120 --> 02:25:53,359
like we're going toward a specific goal.

3773
02:25:53,359 --> 02:25:54,640
And it's a good way to get people to

3774
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:54,960
kind of

3775
02:25:54,960 --> 02:25:56,080
>> Can you get us a number? Ted,

3776
02:25:56,080 --> 02:25:57,200
>> what was that? Yeah.

3777
02:25:57,200 --> 02:25:58,560
>> Well, I think we need to understand what

3778
02:25:58,560 --> 02:25:59,200
we want to do.

3779
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:01,760
>> But just Yeah, just like what we

3780
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:04,319
>> Yeah,

3781
02:26:04,319 --> 02:26:07,359
>> we'll work on that. We'll work on

3782
02:26:07,359 --> 02:26:23,030
>> Good. Yes.

3783
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:24,960
» Perfect. Yep. That'll be next council as

3784
02:26:24,960 --> 02:26:28,880
well. Wonderful. Thank you, Jody. Okay.

3785
02:26:28,880 --> 02:26:34,080
Uh let's take a quick break. Um, it is

3786
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:36,640
currently 8:27

3787
02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:40,399
on my uh computer here. Let's start a

3788
02:26:40,399 --> 02:26:47,110
council meeting at 8:33.

3789
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:49,280
» Okay, welcome back.

3790
02:26:49,280 --> 02:26:51,840
>> Oh, welcome back. We're going to start

3791
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,319
city council meeting. Um, we are going

3792
02:26:54,319 --> 02:26:56,160
to start with an invocation from council

3793
02:26:56,160 --> 02:26:57,920
member Lunt and then a pledge of

3794
02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:00,720
allegiance from council member Jones.

3795
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:04,309
Our

3796
02:27:04,319 --> 02:27:05,760
dear kind and gracious heavenly father,

3797
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:07,920
we're so grateful that we could gather

3798
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:11,840
together this evening as council and

3799
02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:14,479
staff members to go over our agenda

3800
02:27:14,479 --> 02:27:17,439
items and to discuss the needs of our

3801
02:27:17,439 --> 02:27:20,080
community and help us to always be

3802
02:27:20,080 --> 02:27:23,359
mindful of all of our citizens and their

3803
02:27:23,359 --> 02:27:25,280
what their needs are and what is best

3804
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:28,880
for the whole and help us to

3805
02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:30,479
continue to make improvements to

3806
02:27:30,479 --> 02:27:33,680
efficiency and to be mindful of our

3807
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:37,840
budget. Father, we ask for thy continued

3808
02:27:37,840 --> 02:27:40,800
blessings and

3809
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:42,319
uh watching over our community and

3810
02:27:42,319 --> 02:27:46,080
keeping us safe from fire. Help us to be

3811
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:48,479
conscientious of our neighbors and to

3812
02:27:48,479 --> 02:27:49,920
look out for them. And we're so grateful

3813
02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:51,359
for this opportunity that we have to

3814
02:27:51,359 --> 02:27:52,560
serve. And we say these things in the

3815
02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:56,160
name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

3816
02:27:56,160 --> 02:28:01,830
Join

3817
02:28:01,840 --> 02:28:06,160
to the flag of the United States

3818
02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:09,200
and to the republic for which it stands.

3819
02:28:09,200 --> 02:28:13,439
One nation under God, indivisible with

3820
02:28:13,439 --> 02:28:19,270
liberty and justice for all.

3821
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:22,560
» So used to looking at the screen up.

3822
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:24,479
We're used to looking at your belly.

3823
02:28:24,479 --> 02:28:26,160
Would

3824
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:28,960
you stand up?

3825
02:28:28,960 --> 02:28:31,359
>> Thank you, uh, Council Member John's for

3826
02:28:31,359 --> 02:28:32,880
that.

3827
02:28:32,880 --> 02:28:35,840
Thank you, Council Member L.

3828
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:38,479
>> We are going to open the public comment.

3829
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:40,399
Uh, public comments are limited to two

3830
02:28:40,399 --> 02:28:42,800
minutes per individual, unless otherwise

3831
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:44,720
directed by the mayor. Comments

3832
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:47,920
submitted by email must be received by 3

3833
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:49,760
p.m. on the day of the meeting to be

3834
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:51,520
included in the official record.

3835
02:28:51,520 --> 02:28:53,520
Emmailed comments will not be read aloud

3836
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:56,000
during the meeting um but will be

3837
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:57,760
distributed to the city council and

3838
02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:00,800
included in the meeting record. Um so if

3839
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:04,319
there's anybody from the public,

3840
02:29:04,319 --> 02:29:07,040
do you have anything here? No.

3841
02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:09,280
>> Okay. Um

3842
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:15,670
yes, Sherry Burgerer,

3843
02:29:15,680 --> 02:29:22,870
you're still muted, Sherry.

3844
02:29:22,880 --> 02:29:24,000
Hi.

3845
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:24,319
>> Hey.

3846
02:29:24,319 --> 02:29:25,120
>> There you go.

3847
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:28,880
>> There we go. Okay. Um, public comment. I

3848
02:29:28,880 --> 02:29:31,040
just want to

3849
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:34,720
express my appreciation for the fire

3850
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:37,840
department, the flags, and the

3851
02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:40,240
friendship that we had over the Fourth

3852
02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:43,920
of July weekend. Uh, it was fabulous.

3853
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:47,359
Um, in terms of fundraising for the

3854
02:29:47,359 --> 02:29:51,120
park, I think it would be good if PTR

3855
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:55,760
can be involved from the standpoint of

3856
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:59,359
uh possibly informing at Woodland Hills

3857
02:29:59,359 --> 02:30:02,880
Days what the plans are going forward,

3858
02:30:02,880 --> 02:30:05,920
what we'd like to tackle next year so

3859
02:30:05,920 --> 02:30:09,840
that the community can become aware of

3860
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:11,439
the things that we're thinking about

3861
02:30:11,439 --> 02:30:16,240
doing with regards to the park. Um

3862
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:18,399
I

3863
02:30:18,399 --> 02:30:21,760
Let's think a little big. Um I'm happy

3864
02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:24,640
to help supply information.

3865
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:26,640
There's a lot of us in the city that are

3866
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:29,600
70 and a half years older that have to

3867
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:32,800
take a required minimum distribution

3868
02:30:32,800 --> 02:30:37,120
from our IRAs and our inherited IAS and

3869
02:30:37,120 --> 02:30:41,439
those can be donated to the city

3870
02:30:41,439 --> 02:30:45,040
um directly from your broker and not

3871
02:30:45,040 --> 02:30:47,040
coming from you and therefore you don't

3872
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:50,319
pay tax on that money. Uh those could be

3873
02:30:50,319 --> 02:30:54,319
substantial sums. we could plant trees.

3874
02:30:54,319 --> 02:30:56,880
We could, you know, get into some of the

3875
02:30:56,880 --> 02:30:58,479
projects

3876
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:01,600
uh that um we're kind of looking at down

3877
02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:04,720
the road. So, if we can see Ted's

3878
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:07,920
spreadsheet on what exactly where the

3879
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:10,720
funds are going to be going this year,

3880
02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:13,920
and again, I think it was um who was it

3881
02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:15,680
Dan that said, you know, let's come up

3882
02:31:15,680 --> 02:31:18,160
with a figure that we're trying to

3883
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:21,920
raise. Um, I think we can do really

3884
02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:27,429
well. Um, I really do.

3885
02:31:27,439 --> 02:31:29,040
» Beautiful. Thank you, Sher.

3886
02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:30,479
>> And Sherry, thanks for all your hard

3887
02:31:30,479 --> 02:31:33,280
work. You You worked really hard um at

3888
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:34,960
the event, so thank you.

3889
02:31:34,960 --> 02:31:40,870
>> Oh, you're welcome. My pleasure.

3890
02:31:40,880 --> 02:31:46,150
» Okay. Uh Diana, do you have anything?

3891
02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:48,160
» Nothing today. Thank you.

3892
02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:51,280
for joining us. Okay, then we

3893
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:54,080
will close the public comment and we'll

3894
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:56,319
move on to the consent agenda. And this

3895
02:31:56,319 --> 02:31:57,840
is great because I don't have anybody

3896
02:31:57,840 --> 02:31:59,600
online from the council. So, we can

3897
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:04,399
actually uh I don't think we have

3898
02:32:04,399 --> 02:32:06,319
>> Oh, it is raining.

3899
02:32:06,319 --> 02:32:08,080
>> Well, Carrie's usually gone into

3900
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:09,439
raining.

3901
02:32:09,439 --> 02:32:10,800
>> Well, then we always have meeting right

3902
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:12,479
before I go. So,

3903
02:32:12,479 --> 02:32:13,680
>> okay. Awesome.

3904
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:16,080
>> Um, wonderful. Okay, then we will start

3905
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:18,319
with approving the minutes uh for the

3906
02:32:18,319 --> 02:32:22,000
June 23rd, 2026 city council meeting.

3907
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:23,280
>> I'll make a motion.

3908
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:25,359
>> Council member John's with the motion.

3909
02:32:25,359 --> 02:32:26,560
Do I have a second?

3910
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:27,280
>> Second.

3911
02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:29,200
>> Council member Malovich with the second.

3912
02:32:29,200 --> 02:32:31,520
All in favor?

3913
02:32:31,520 --> 02:32:33,439
>> Any oppose?

3914
02:32:33,439 --> 02:32:36,080
Okay, that passes.

3915
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:39,359
Um, resolution 2026-44

3916
02:32:39,359 --> 02:32:42,319
approving the ratifying end a year-end

3917
02:32:42,319 --> 02:32:44,800
budgetary and accounting adjustments.

3918
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:45,840
>> I'll make a motion.

3919
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:47,600
>> Council member Malovich with the motion.

3920
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:48,560
>> I'll second.

3921
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:51,680
>> Second from Council Member Rhoden. Um,

3922
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:53,760
all in favor?

3923
02:32:53,760 --> 02:32:55,840
>> Any opposed?

3924
02:32:55,840 --> 02:32:58,880
Okay, that resolution passes. Approval

3925
02:32:58,880 --> 02:33:02,319
of the auditing services for 2026

3926
02:33:02,319 --> 02:33:05,600
and that is Larson and Co. Right. I'll

3927
02:33:05,600 --> 02:33:06,560
make a motion.

3928
02:33:06,560 --> 02:33:08,399
>> Council member Lunt with the motion.

3929
02:33:08,399 --> 02:33:10,000
>> Can I ask a question?

3930
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:12,160
>> Uh if yes.

3931
02:33:12,160 --> 02:33:13,680
>> After a second. If I get a second.

3932
02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:14,560
>> I'll second.

3933
02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:16,399
>> Council member Mount with the second.

3934
02:33:16,399 --> 02:33:18,080
Now let's enter into discussion.

3935
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:21,920
>> Okay. Um is that for the 4500 that was

3936
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:24,000
originally proposed. Okay. Just wanted

3937
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:24,960
to get that

3938
02:33:24,960 --> 02:33:26,880
>> perfect question. Thank you.

3939
02:33:26,880 --> 02:33:33,190
>> Uh all in favor?

3940
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:36,469
» Yes.

3941
02:33:36,479 --> 02:33:38,560
I don't have that paper with me.

3942
02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:42,560
>> Um, I've got a copy here

3943
02:33:42,560 --> 02:33:45,439
if it helps.

3944
02:33:45,439 --> 02:33:47,760
There should be six years of pricing

3945
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:53,110
there.

3946
02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:55,439
» So that's if that's for a single audit.

3947
02:33:55,439 --> 02:33:58,319
So we'll be at 15,000. And if we have to

3948
02:33:58,319 --> 02:33:59,920
do a single audit as well, if

3949
02:33:59,920 --> 02:34:00,800
applicable,

3950
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:01,120
>> okay,

3951
02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:04,000
>> then that jumps into the 45. So that

3952
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:05,840
would be in addition if needed. So it'

3953
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:08,399
be the 15,000 and then next year

3954
02:34:08,399 --> 02:34:12,560
depending on how the RFP goes 1562

3955
02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:13,439
168.

3956
02:34:13,439 --> 02:34:17,600
>> Okay. Perfectation. Thank you.

3957
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:20,399
>> Okay. Did I ask for a motion on that?

3958
02:34:20,399 --> 02:34:20,720
>> Yes.

3959
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:22,560
>> Yeah.

3960
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:27,270
>> Wonderful.

3961
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:28,160
» All in favor?

3962
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:30,720
That's what I was.

3963
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:32,720
>> All in favor? Okay.

3964
02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:34,479
>> Any opposed?

3965
02:34:34,479 --> 02:34:37,439
>> Okay, that is approved.

3966
02:34:37,439 --> 02:34:38,880
>> Authorizing the mayor to sign the

3967
02:34:38,880 --> 02:34:41,040
sponsorship agreement between Woodland

3968
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:43,439
Hills and Utah County for the America

3969
02:34:43,439 --> 02:34:44,080
250.

3970
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:45,200
>> I'll make a motion.

3971
02:34:45,200 --> 02:34:46,880
>> Council member Lent with the motion.

3972
02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:47,840
>> I'll second.

3973
02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:50,160
>> Council member Rhoden with a second. Any

3974
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:52,640
comments? Anybody wanting to throw me

3975
02:34:52,640 --> 02:34:54,640
off again?

3976
02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:55,760
>> All in favor?

3977
02:34:55,760 --> 02:34:56,720
>> I.

3978
02:34:56,720 --> 02:34:58,640
>> Any opposed?

3979
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:01,439
>> Okay, I'll do that. Um, approval of

3980
02:35:01,439 --> 02:35:04,720
large purchase requests.

3981
02:35:04,720 --> 02:35:07,120
Now, we can approve this and move

3982
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:10,800
forward. We can approve this and pending

3983
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:13,120
other bids. That way, we don't have to

3984
02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:16,160
wait till the August 11th or we can

3985
02:35:16,160 --> 02:35:18,880
approve this with a

3986
02:35:18,880 --> 02:35:20,000
what are

3987
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:25,590
>> we can table it till the August 11th.

3988
02:35:25,600 --> 02:35:26,640
maximum

3989
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:29,439
>> you're willing to spend.

3990
02:35:29,439 --> 02:35:30,720
>> We can approve it with the amount

3991
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:31,520
budgeted.

3992
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:32,000
>> Yeah.

3993
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:34,479
That was was going to be my plan

3994
02:35:34,479 --> 02:35:38,240
is to I I move to approve it with the

3995
02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:39,200
amount budgeted.

3996
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:40,080
>> Okay.

3997
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:42,399
>> With the intent of getting additional

3998
02:35:42,399 --> 02:35:44,160
bids

3999
02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:46,640
and having them reviewed

4000
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:48,240
before

4001
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:48,880
>> a commitment.

4002
02:35:48,880 --> 02:35:50,960
Okay. And I will reach out

4003
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:52,319
to each of you for that commitment.

4004
02:35:52,319 --> 02:35:53,280
>> Yeah. And if it goes up,

4005
02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:54,240
>> we have additional

4006
02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:55,600
>> if it goes up because somebody else

4007
02:35:55,600 --> 02:35:57,040
found something the first company

4008
02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:59,680
didn't, we need to have more discussion.

4009
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:01,600
>> Wonderful. And I'd say let's put that on

4010
02:36:01,600 --> 02:36:03,520
the August 11th, no matter what the

4011
02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:05,760
decision is, so that it's made to the

4012
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:08,240
public as well.

4013
02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:10,960
>> Okay. I have a motion from Council

4014
02:36:10,960 --> 02:36:12,399
Member Hutchkins and a second from

4015
02:36:12,399 --> 02:36:14,800
Council Member John's. All in favor?

4016
02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:16,880
>> I.

4017
02:36:16,880 --> 02:36:18,880
>> Any opposed?

4018
02:36:18,880 --> 02:36:22,479
Good. I have two uh legal matters that I

4019
02:36:22,479 --> 02:36:24,640
would like to discuss. One is an update

4020
02:36:24,640 --> 02:36:28,160
and one is a strategic discussion.

4021
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:31,120
>> Um I have a motion. So I have a motion

4022
02:36:31,120 --> 02:36:32,880
from council member Malovich.

4023
02:36:32,880 --> 02:36:33,920
>> I'll second it.

4024
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:37,280
>> Council member uh Hutchings with a

4025
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:38,240
second.

4026
02:36:38,240 --> 02:36:41,510
>> Anchings

4027
02:36:41,520 --> 02:36:43,600
with an S.

4028
02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:45,359
>> I've always had an S on the end of my

4029
02:36:45,359 --> 02:36:45,760
name.

4030
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:47,280
>> Did I say Hutching?

4031
02:36:47,280 --> 02:36:50,399
>> No, you didn't. It's a joke.

4032
02:36:50,399 --> 02:36:53,040
>> Hutchkins. Um,

4033
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:54,240
Council Member Malovich.

4034
02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:54,800
>> Yes.

4035
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:56,000
>> Council member Johns.

4036
02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:56,880
>> Council member Hutchkins.

4037
02:36:56,880 --> 02:36:58,560
>> Yes.

4038
02:36:58,560 --> 02:36:59,760
>> Council member Roden.

4039
02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:00,240
>> Yes.

4040
02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:01,359
>> Council member Lent.

4041
02:37:01,359 --> 02:37:02,640
>> Yes.

4042
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:05,760
>> Okay. Thank you so much. Uh, Diana.

4043
02:37:05,760 --> 02:37:07,200
Looks like Sherry's already gone. We

4044
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:09,680
appreciate your attendance. We are going

4045
02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:11,680
to move towards going into a close

4046
02:37:11,680 --> 02:37:12,720
session.

4047
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:21,030
>> Yeah.

4048
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:22,800
The mayor knows how to do it. She might

4049
02:37:22,800 --> 02:37:40,150
have gone home at this late.

4050
02:37:40,160 --> 02:37:43,120
» I will uh accept a motion to adjourn.

4051
02:37:43,120 --> 02:37:44,399
>> Motion.

4052
02:37:44,399 --> 02:37:45,760
>> Second. Thank you.

4053
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:48,080
>> We are adjourned. Thank you everybody.

4054
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:48,960
>> Thank you.

4055
02:37:48,960 --> 02:37:50,640
>> So no council rest of the month,

4056
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:51,359
correct?

4057
02:37:51,359 --> 02:37:55,439
>> Rest of the month. You got it off, baby.

4058
02:37:55,439 --> 02:37:56,720
>> Hey 24th,

4059
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:59,200
>> July and December. We do that. Is it the

4060
02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:01,920
holidays?