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yes and start with roll call
mayor pro tem levar president

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council member alfieri is absent
council member case here council member

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nikai here council member neil here
council members of the wagga i'm here

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thank you
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all right pledge of allegiance

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america

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on to number three ceremonies
presentations and appointments we have

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3a which is a proclamation recognizing
the organizers of the 2021 old-fashioned

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fourth of july celebration
and michael lawson's going to present

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yeah thank you mayor pro tem um just
briefly

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we
we had a wonderful fourth of july event

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here
something that we went without in 2020

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and it came back in 2021 and we had a
team of folks that helped put that

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together um led by gail gross and a lot
of volunteers and some city staff and

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some great sponsors
and uh it was a great turnout it was

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seemed like everyone seemed to enjoy it
i know i certainly did

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um and so we wanted to recognize the
amount of effort and all the different

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folks who
invested their time in making that

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happen so
um

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it it should be said that that used to
be something the city put on in the past

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um and with covet and everything else
changes in staffing and budgets that

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wasn't something we were going to be
able to do and so we appreciated

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folks coming in to fill that gap
and make that play on behalf of the

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community so that was really cool

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all right now i have the proclamation in
front of me so i'm going to go ahead and

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read that out loud for the record
the proclamation recognizing organizers

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of the 2021 old-fashioned fourth of july
celebration whereas the city of woodland

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park takes pride in celebrating american
independence with its annual

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old-fashioned fourth of july celebration
a long-standing community tradition and

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whereas the celebration was cancelled in
2020 due to the covid19 pandemic at one

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time uncertain to return for 2021 and
whereas gail gross of soar took the

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initiative and stepped in to organize
the celebration for the first time and

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invested many hours and our personal
resources on behalf of the woodland park

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community and whereas was assisted by a
large group of dedicated volunteers and

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city of woodland park employees both
leading up to the event and on the day

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of the event itself and whereas many
sponsors both from within and outside

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the woodland park community pledged
financial and in-kind support to help

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make the celebration a reality
and whereas the celebration was a major

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success evidenced by the largest
attendance that anyone could remember

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and brought a welcomed sense of normalcy
and enjoyment to thousands of attendees

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now therefore the members of the city of
woodland park city council hereby

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recognize gail gross and soar event
volunteers city staff and event sponsors

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of the 2021 old-fashioned fourth of july
celebration the celebration faithfully

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honored both of our our nation and our
community giving the residents of

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woodland park teller county and visitors
a much needed opportunity for fun unity

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and patriotism in the midst of a
challenging year on behalf of the

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woodland park community the council
expresses its gratitude for the hard

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work of all involved in making the
celebration

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success
thank you gail very much thank you

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i'd like to give you this proclamation
as well

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thank you

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many thanks to everyone that helped you

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i want to make this did she want to make
a speech

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council wants to know if you want to
speak girl

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first of all i want to thank you i've
never had embarrassed pain so i'm very

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excited about it
and i just want to thank everyone who

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participated yes it took hours on my
part to put it together

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but without the people that were
participating it wouldn't have happened

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so the the vendors and the sponsors and
everybody that helped out on the day of

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and i do have a few of the people here
with me today

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everyone was invited but a lot of people
are on vacation and couldn't be here but

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we do appreciate the city of whitman
park and we look forward to expanding

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upon it for next year and make it making
it even better

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thank you thank you

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all right four additions deletions or
corrections to agenda none

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we've got consent calendar number five
five a's approval of the august 5th 2021

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regular city council meeting minutes and
b is approval contract in the amount of

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35 for 96 timberline electric
suzanne

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you'd like to
take a and then if we have any questions

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about b we can sure we can do that
so what i would look for this evening

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council is a motion to approve the
august 5th

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2021 regular city council meeting
minutes

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oh i'll make a motion
thank you a second

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thank you
peace

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yes lavar yes nikai yes neil yes zuma
yes thank you motion cares unanimously

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the second item as mayor protem
mentioned that we have on the consent

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agenda is a contract with timberline
electrical control corp and director kip

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wiley is here to answer any questions if
you have any particular questions about

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this contract

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council any questions
yeah

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so kip i remember when we did citizens
academy they

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took us through that whole process and i
remember seeing those uh

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old-fashioned radios or whatever and
that was a way of connection can you

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kind of just walk through what the
technology difference is from what we're

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placing it with
so we're we are replacing those radios

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with newer versions um in our town we
have to go with radio frequency because

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cellular and low frequencies just don't
work and then part of this package is

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also the controls to that so we have a
redundancy backup to the plant if the

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plant computer goes down we can operate
from the control

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in the scada
yeah if i remember that's how

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the
that radio control is actually linked to

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how it actually
communicates or operates correctly

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correct yeah okay and they said from
what i saw in the proposal it's going to

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last another 20 years is that right
that'd be amazing

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you're not convinced well the original
equipment is still in the plant the

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plant was built in 97 so it's lasted 25
years so okay we would hope this does

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the same okay
and by that time we might have more

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sophisticated communication
ability more than likely technology does

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feel pretty quick yeah
all right thanks thank you

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anything further

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can i get a motion
i'll make a motion to approve the

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contract in the amount of 35 496 dollars
with timberline electrical control group

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for the system's controls and data
acquisitions upgrade to the water

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treatment plant
oh second

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thank you
yes labar yes nikai yes neil yes

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yes thank you motion cares unanimously

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thank you thank you
all right number six public comment on

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items not on agenda suzanne do we have
anyone this evening we do ma'am we have

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two the first person
signed up is in the audience kitty

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walker okay

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okay am i close enough
it's here let's say just say hello hello

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am i close enough yes yes okay so my
name is kit marie walker i'm a resident

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of woodland park and um
i would like to start

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my comments with the gospel of matthew
chapter 12 verse 25 and it says

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jesus knew their thoughts and he said a
kingdom divided

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will be ruined and a city or household
divided will not stand and i'm bringing

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this
forth as the last few months i've

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attended the council meetings and it is
apparent that the council is divided and

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the
members of the

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woodland park
citizens and business owners that have

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addressed the council
also appear to be

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divided against the council or the
council against them

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so
anyway um

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the lord gives a solution
psalms 133 says where there is unity god

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commands a blessing
so um

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i believe that the hearts of the council
is not for division

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and
i would like to pray over the council so

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father i just lift up the willow park
city council right now in jesus name and

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i thank you lord that you know their
thoughts you know their hearts and

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as i believe
their hearts are not for division and i

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thank you lord that you give them the
solution that unity is a solution i

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believe that they would like they they
want will in part to be blessed and in

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unity woodland park is blessed and the
citizens and business owners of woodland

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park want woodland park to be blessed so
we just call upon unity and we thank you

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for your blessings in jesus name amen
thank you

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thank you
thank you

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okay
next i'm not sure if he's in the

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audience but i do have a sign up online
for justin epperson

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and
justin if you are on zoom can you please

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just raise your hand

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okay
no justin

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okay that's all the public comment this
evening okay thank you

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so we're going to move on to number
seven unfinished business and that's 7a

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the approval of legal services agreement
between the city of woodland park

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and wilson and williams llp
and the reason

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this has come back is because i think
that council

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uh had some questions
um of the attorneys to get some answers

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by
um

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some false allegations
from a critic and i think that council's

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had that time i don't think that we need
to wait until november and i do

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have something i'd like to read
because i'd like the record to

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accurately reflect the correct law
because it was posted also

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in the papers
and it was inaccurate and i just

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normally when it's a person's opinion
or

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interpretation i don't think it needs to
be corrected but when it's

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um
presented as if it was the truth and

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accurate it does need to be fixed
so at the august 5th 2021 regular

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meeting of the council
it was alleged that the council hadn't

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held an illegal executive session at its
july 1st meeting and a complaint about

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the quality of legal advice provided to
council by our current city's attorneys

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were made
several members of council have asked

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the attorneys to respond to these
allegations regarding the legality of

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the july 1st executive session and to
clarify which law was misread and what

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law actually applied
so the purpose like i said of bringing

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back the attorney's contract and what
i'm about to read for the record is the

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clarification of the law which was asked
for by council and a clarification of

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our attorney's advice during that
meeting

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i also want this issue clarified for the
public and for the purpose of the record

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there were there was false information
relayed in a public meeting and

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published by our local papers
had it been one simple opinion or

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interpretation of the law stated then
there would be no need for clarification

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however even the papers published these
false legal

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infor the false legal information and
the record must be corrected and i would

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like to see the attorney's contract
approved this evening

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so for clarification the criticism of
counsel and its legal counsel began by

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citing the wrong law and then proceeding
to excoriate counsel for violating a law

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that had no application whatsoever to
what council was discussing

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the critique statute cited was crs
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sub-section f-2
a portion of the open meeting law that

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permits executive sessions to discuss
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this personnel matters basis for an
executive session contains language

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clarifying that members of the local
public body who are convening the

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executive session aren't personnel of
the local government so discussion of

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filling a vacancy on a governing body
shouldn't occur in an executive session

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called to discuss personal matters
personnel matters

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we met
in executive session to discuss the

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appointment to fill a vacancy and
appointments to fill vacancies can and

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commonly are discussed in executive
sessions convened on some other basis

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provided in the open meeting law
under the assumption that section 402 f

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applied it was also observed that it
sure seemed like it was illegal

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and then he encouraged council not to
indulge in

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technical or legal thin ice
so let's clarify that the executive

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session held on july 1 was not convened
pursuant to section 402 f

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roman numeral 2 but rather pursuant to
an entirely different subsection

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it applies to subsection 402b which
permits executive sessions for the

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purpose of receiving receiving legal
advice from the city attorney

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in this case concerning potential
conflicts of interest of a dda board

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appointee
this use of an executive session is

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common unremarkable and completely legal

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the second criticism regarding the july
1st executive session focused on the

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city our city attorney nina williams
response to a question from council

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member neil who asked whether going into
executive session to discuss the

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potential conflict was appropriate
nina responded that there was a legal

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basis for going into the executive
session but she added in a in different

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communities different councils have a
different preference and customs as to

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when they choose to go into executive
session

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nina expressed this well-understood fact
by saying that different councils around

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colorado have different feelings about
going into executive session

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in this advice nina was exactly correct
the opens meeting law permits but never

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requires executive sessions on specified
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advice from attorneys or personal
matters etc so municipal attorneys are

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regularly asked are we permitted to go
into executive session on this or that

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basis
attorneys are not asked do we have to

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have an executive session because no one
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session council member neil's question
combined is it a legal

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inquiry with an is it a good idea
inquiry the first inquiry is for the

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lawyer to answer is it legal but the
second inquiry is a policy matter for

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counsel to decide not the lawyers
respectfully the legal advice that nina

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provided was completely correct
we had the legal right to go into

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executive session to seek legal advice
by our attorney but did we have to no

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council member zulawago could have asked
his question on the diocese regarding

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the conflict of interest and nina would
have answered it there but instead he

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asked to go into executive session which
we had the legal right to ask for the

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council voted on it which requires a
two-thirds majority and it passed

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therefore under section 402 b we
adjourned temporarily into the session

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nothing about it was illegal
there was a grave mischaracterization of

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the law and our attorney's advice in
that last meeting i believe council has

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now had the time to meet with and ask
our attorneys to clarify what had been

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misspoken
and understand that the attorneys really

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do know that their job
that's why this contract

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has been brought back before november i
don't think four or more months is

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needed
that to see that our lawyers who have

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doctorates in law and years of
experience in this topic are less

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competent than an untrained
unexperienced critic

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jeff wilson who represents us was the
lead lobbyist on open meetings at the

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general assembly for nearly 30 years he
wrote the first and second editions of

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the colorado municipal league's books on
open meetings and open records of

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colorado he knows our open records laws
he knows the open meeting laws

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and he certainly knows when we can go
into executive session as does nina nina

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is also an expert in land use and zoning
laws and together they cover every area

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of the law that we are concerned with
and they come with stellar reputations

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given that the correct information has
now been put forth and it's understood

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that nothing illegal occurred in regards
to an executive session nor was there

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improper legal advice given
and council chose by vote to enter

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executive session
i would really like to recommend that we

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approve this contract this evening i
would like to recommend it without

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further ado however if council would
also like to speak i welcome that

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thank you hillary

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counsel anything further

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it's interesting that
all i hear is crickets right now

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don i took your uh
statement to heart and i want you to

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know that i have not spoken to anyone
here

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not to nina not
to michael

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nobody about this issue after i saw the
rendering

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the legal opinion that hillary just saw
the one correspondence i had was with

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mayor pro tem labar
when i

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saw this on the agenda and i said do we
have a problem

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and the conversation we had in the in
the

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text was simply let's not discuss it
let's

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vet it in front of god and everybody
and and see where it goes so i was one

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that voted to hold off
the um

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contract uh that's how i cast my vote

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last time once i saw a legal
interpretation of what we were we were

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being accused of i formed a different
opinion on the legal services and i am

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ready to cast a different vote so for
the record those are all my thoughts i

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have discussed this with no one

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well i would like to simply start by
saying

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good folks can disagree
and um

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as technically accurate as all of what
you've just read is i think that the

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public perception which is what i see
is that

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they had no knowledge of what went on in
the executive session so it would only

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be speculation on their part
but they sensed that something wasn't

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right in the way we conducted ourselves
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that i think is the issue that underlies
it

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and so
to

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take a legal opinion against one of our
citizens i get it i understand it but i

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think in terms of what the undertone is
what the people are seeing and saying is

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we want transparency
you didn't do it council and that's

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something that we will pay the price for
one way or another it was not done

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properly it was done way out of context
of how we normally do business

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so
have absolutely nothing against our

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attorneys but my vote will reflect the
fact that i thought some space since the

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breathing time was a good thing and four
of you did as well and i understand why

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it's changed
thank

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you kelly or catherine i got nothing
i would just say that i appreciate your

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opinion robert it's not one that i share
um first uh the general the person in

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question is not a citizen of woodland
park

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as a business owner
but i

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have the utmost respect for
this firm and think that it

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the the two issues are not related
and i don't see what the other issue is

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because
we've we have responded many times and

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there was no shadows or shade
for anything else

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that occurred
it was a vote

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and

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the folks that were appointed were
appointed

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on that vote and will move forward
thank you

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thank you kelly
all right so then council can i get a

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motion

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i'll make a motion to approve the legal
services agreement between the city of

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woodland park and wilson and williams
llp

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i'll second

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lavar yes
nikai yes

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neil
yes sue lavaga

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no
case yes thank you motion carries 4-1

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thank you council and we're going to
move on to

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item number eight ordinances on initial
postings eight a's to consider ordinance

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number 1403
and

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the
presenter is nina

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good evening council
um this

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um franchise this agreement renews the
gas franchise with black hills energy

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for 20 years five years the prior
franchise was for 20 years

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jeff wilson negotiated
all terms beneficial to the city were

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carried forward um they originally
omitted but we made sure to get them you

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know get back into the agreement
just to go over a few points um the

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franchise continues a three percent
franchise free fee that's pretty

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standard like a rental fee for the use
of city streets

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um for infrastructure the franchise fee
is adjustable every five years if

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desired
some new asks from black hills in this

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franchise were primarily towards
cooperation when street cuts impact them

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and their infrastructure and when the
city projects

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which city product projects require
relocation of their infrastructure

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i believe the uh carly dollar west is um
attending via zoom if there's any other

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uh questions for um her she represents
the franchise

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um if i have any questions or if i don't
want to annoy

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um no the franchise agreement is
pretty much the same as it was before

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with a few exceptions like nina said um
just primarily oriented around the

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additional proactive communication
between the city and black hills energy

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if a major construction project like
redoing a street is

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going to be happening we need to let
black hills know so if they need to

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relocate their their infrastructure they
can do so

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there's also some new language in there
about

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advanced communication on annexations uh
the city does annex new property into

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its city limits that needs to let black
hills know with a little bit more

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advanced notice so they can
get those properties set up in their

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system but pretty pretty straightforward
three percent as nina said it was pretty

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standard
um so not not too many changes

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council any questions
it's been three percent as long as i've

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been around a long time

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i i do have a comment
because i did receive a

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comment from a citizen and here's some

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transparency folks um patricia stinner
who's sitting in the audience

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helped run my campaign
and she is one of my

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biggest critics
she will challenge me on anything

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and she asked me to look into some
language in this particular contract

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which i did
now a little bit is because i have

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studied law i'm aware that you don't
list

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negatives i guess it's the best way and
i don't know the exact legal term for it

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need i'm gonna struggle a little bit you
do that it has to do with

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the document
is giving the franchise the access over

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public right of ways the question
that i was asked had to do with what

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about
private right of ways or private

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easements
because

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we are not specifically putting it into
the contract that does not imply

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that it's
there so by the mere fact that it's not

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in the contract
it means

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it's not implied that they get
easements over

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they have the rights to go on private
easements

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and i think i've captured that
and i hope i've captured

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the concern adequately and i've
addressed it to everybody if you had a

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similar concern over that language
and i'm kind of a head nod are you

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comfortable with the explanation
okay

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yeah
it's up to the mayor pro tem whether

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there's public comment sure that's fine
you can come up to the podium if you'd

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like

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good evening counts good evening council
citizens patricia stinner woodland park

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so i hearken back to a similar franchise
agreement

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that it came at an awkward time for the
franchise because at that time in 2015

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when peak internet approached the city

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internet and fiber optics were not yet
legally recognized as utilities they are

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now they are legal public utility
functions so um

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when peak internet
um

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operated on their agreement with the
city they did come through our public

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easements
and i allowed them to i invited them to

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i thought that
um fiber optic was going to improve

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everybody's property values
and it was a little intrusive they're

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water boring damaged some things
they did cause some erosion that they

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did not come back and repair not on my
property they repaired my property but i

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continued to hear people complain about
those two or three years when they were

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active
and this isn't a slight on peak internet

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they certainly went through the right
channels they received the city

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administration permission to access the
eastmans the easements were not

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specifically defined nor acknowledged
nor addressed

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in that agreement
similarly um

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i don't believe private easements are
addressed in the old tds agreements or

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any of the other agreements
um is the law has changed it's come to

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my attention
because i was doing my diligence and

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finding out
about the whole fiber optic thing coming

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through my private easement and i was
told five years ago that

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if a subdivision is planted with utility
eastmans those utility easements are

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presumed to be for
that development

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and what we saw coming in um
in 2015 2016 2017

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we saw the existing properties of
northwoods

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sacrificing and being burdened by
um

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utility installment for
uh

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future developments that still aren't
developed

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so i understand what you're saying
councilman neil and i thank you on such

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short notice by the way mr neil didn't
get this letter until like

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15 minutes before the meeting or
something it caught me by

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it caught me off guard that this was
going to be coming up tonight but i

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think you understand my concerns the
private easements were not specifically

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addressed nor defined nor specifically
omitted and peak internet did use our

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private easements and not all citizens
were okay with that i'm wondering if we

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can prevent future turmoil and and i am
not a no growth person as i said i

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invited peak internet to come through my
property

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and to board through my property and to
have access through my property to get

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to another property and that's why i got
in trouble with another developer

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because they use access to my property
they didn't otherwise legally have

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so private easements i think should
remain private

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um seeing fiber optic
buried in the ground is a lot different

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than a gas line coming in so i asked
council to please

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work towards the effort of protecting
our private easements in the city for

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the residents of city park not just the
residents but for the developers as well

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and please look into that before you
sign this agreement that's all i'm

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asking and councilman neil thank you um
i i understand what you're saying you

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ask me if i accept your statement can i
live with it absolutely i'm just asking

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for counsel to be a little more astute
and just take into consideration that

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private easements might be temporarized
here

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mayor pro tem may i respond sure
um since this is the initial posting yes

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and we're going to take a vote whether
to move it to the next phase

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may i make a commitment to you that i

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will sit with the attorney and if
necessary or the

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the city staff i guess it is would be
the appropriate people sally i'm

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kind of watching your
head shake and if we need to we'll get a

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zoom call and bring you in so that we if
there is some language that would make

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you more comfortable or we feel is
appropriate i'm not making any promises

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i'm just saying i'll facilitate
a follow-up situation well certainly

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that's all i that's more than i could
ask and i'm not trying to be an

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obstructionist i'm not trying to put a
damper on the agreement obviously we

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need that agreement right i'm just
asking if we can do it better

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i agreed thank you thank you thank you
thank you so patricia i'd like to

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pick you back on what you have a friend
down in colorado springs

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and he just spent ten thousand dollars
on his driveway

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and
the

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fiber optics came through and they
wanted to bore through his property they

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talked to him they negotiated what it
was supposed to be and then when the

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workers came they totally changed the
plan

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so
the the boar which was shallower than

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was proposed and it was going to affect
his brand new work

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so
he had a heck of a fight

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and as far as i know that's not even
resolved yet in terms of getting

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satisfaction to the protection of his
own property they had the right to come

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through the easement but he had no say
in it so i think you're making a really

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good point
thank you i know that um standard by

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standard anymore utilities go in through
the street eastmans those are public

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eastmans different from private eastmans
when when you have a utility coming

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through people's backyards and
destroying landscape and not coming back

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because
there was not foresight enough to put

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repercussions in for the utility that
came through what if you damaged

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property you're going to fix it that
wasn't in there it was never addressed

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so again i'm not trying to be an
obstructionist to

453
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,839
black hills energy to come through they
need to develop we have populations

454
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,520
growing i'm just asking for city council
to please put some thought into

455
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:36,880
protecting our private easements we do
have public right-of-ways most paved

456
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,000
streets and even dirt alleys have
easements that are broader than the

457
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:43,119
street itself and perhaps your friend's
driveway was paid over one of those

458
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:47,280
eastmans i don't know the city there was
a sidewalk easement okay well in a

459
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:51,119
sidewalk is a public right-of-way so
anyway i appreciate that council let me

460
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:53,119
come in tonight and speak i wasn't
expecting to

461
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,760
so
and thank you councilman neal for

462
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:00,560
bringing it up
thank you robert also

463
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,960
and i'll be willing to anything that i
do

464
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:09,119
definitely a chair because i think your
concerns are very valid also

465
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:13,599
we can work kind of
with the attorneys in the cities

466
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:16,640
well well i have a second i have a
second question i don't know if this is

467
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,599
directed at you
michael or with this is in the law of it

468
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:26,640
so this has been going for 25 years they
have a three percent fee that they um

469
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:32,400
pay us for
that use has a costing been done by the

470
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:38,319
treasury by the uh finance department to
see whether that is offsetting the cost

471
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:43,119
to the city and whether that is still a
profitable margin or a fair margin for

472
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:47,760
the city or we just assume three percent
is fine and we're just going ahead

473
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,839
as far as i know there's been no
analysis done i'm not sure

474
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:58,480
if it's possible to quantify the impact
this is a rent it's not like a

475
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:04,000
construction project or something that
we're incurring costs that need to be

476
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:08,079
covered it's a rental for the use of
our public right-of-ways

477
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,040
so it's not a
cost recovery

478
00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:15,040
position
does that make sense for you it makes

479
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:19,040
sense but it doesn't cost us anything
when they come in and use that easement

480
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:23,440
does it cost the city any money at any
point i think so no okay well i could

481
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:27,359
that's and it's just
generally to recoup the cost of wear and

482
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:30,640
tear on city infrastructures generally
what franchise views are

483
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,440
anything further
needed

484
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,160
oh um yes i know you know rust is gonna
speak with sally to explain and you'll

485
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,599
sit down um you know with your
constituents but i just wanted to point

486
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:48,960
out you know this is an agreement with
the city and

487
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,800
in in the first section franchise
granted it's um granted

488
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,200
on
president future streets alleys avenues

489
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:01,920
bridges public right-of-ways and public
easements

490
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:05,280
um of the city so it it it
it uh

491
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:10,240
quantifies or explains that it's
the public yeah anything public

492
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:15,200
so then the question is quite like it's
been presented here when it comes to

493
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:19,920
having to go across private land what is
the protocol what's the law

494
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:24,480
say in terms of
that access what if what if for example

495
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:27,920
mrs sinner said no uh i don't want you
doing that this time

496
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,680
what would be the impact the city said
yes but the private

497
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:36,079
uh homeowner said no
well we're granting the franchise on

498
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:40,800
public streets right-of-ways um i can't
speak to the um each individual prior

499
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:43,680
property because they might already have
utility easements that are on the

500
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:48,480
property when they purchased
the property but um

501
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:52,720
so does that make that utility easement
is the city easement shared with the

502
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:56,079
homeowner so it's a moot point is that
really the point

503
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:59,920
it depends on each property but we'll
have a better um

504
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:03,440
i guess explanation point out you know
which sections

505
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:07,200
have this type of provision that makes
make sure that everyone is comfortable

506
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:13,440
fully comfortable that
it's over public right-of-ways and

507
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:18,160
public easements that already exist
all right it's fine

508
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:24,160
i just don't i i guess i'm having
struggling to see where our authority

509
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:28,640
lies in private easements
i have a private utility easement on my

510
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,000
private property
and if there's something going through

511
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,280
there
i'm notified of that but i knew that

512
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:41,760
that easement was there when i purchased
the property

513
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:46,319
and so i accepted the property with that
knowledge and condition of the property

514
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:52,000
and know that i can't put any permanent
structures there that would inhibit

515
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:55,119
the access of utilities to run through
there

516
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,520
because it is a use and it's recorded
it's on the plat it's a utility easement

517
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:05,200
so i struggled to see
the relevance of the city's public right

518
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:08,480
of ways which this franchise agreement
addresses

519
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:12,960
and the public right or the private
right of ways because i don't see them

520
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,119
as being related
i agree

521
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:26,079
this is the 25 year old contract
and um once again uh only because i know

522
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:30,960
personally miss dinner has an issue at
her is that your backyard side yard

523
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:35,520
whatever between you and your backyard
and it's a huge beagle pit now i don't

524
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:40,240
know whether the cause of that was by a
utilities company or not but

525
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,720
if it's been 25 years and we haven't
challenged how it's happening and there

526
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:50,400
is an issue like if you want to explain
what's in your backyard go ahead but or

527
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:54,400
on in that easement area there but uh
from what i know that the city can't get

528
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:58,559
in there and fix it i don't know all the
details of it but it's like

529
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:03,920
it's it's an issue to those homeowners
and it's not resolved so if what this 25

530
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:08,079
year old contract is plays into some of
those things that aren't being resolved

531
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:12,640
is it value to look at it that's smiling
yeah and we would have as a city as xero

532
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:16,240
saying we don't have the authority to um
grant anything over a private easement

533
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,680
and this is clear that it's above
streets alleys avenues bridges public

534
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:23,599
right-of-ways and public easements i
can't say that i know my property this

535
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:27,760
utility easements over that i purchased
you know with the knowledge of but

536
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:32,319
that's not a city easement over
the private property this is you know

537
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:36,480
the city's is con is um the party to
this contract and

538
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:39,520
when it's versus franchise granted it's
clear that it's only public right of

539
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,400
ways
in fact it says public ease and doesn't

540
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,640
include private easings we have no
rights you know um

541
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,599
to that streets alleys avenues bridges
public right aways and public easements

542
00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:54,000
okay that's true
it's clearly not it's not private and

543
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:58,640
trish understand i'm not belittling or
making any less of your concerns by any

544
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:03,119
way i just think that they belong
in a different place

545
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:08,640
because this is strictly over public
um right-of-way easements and access

546
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:14,960
thank you councilman case i i understand
the intent um of of your comment again

547
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:19,280
i repeat
private property

548
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:24,640
was not specifically addressed
in the peak internet negotiations they

549
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:30,720
came through private property and
citizens did not have a say about it now

550
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:34,880
most citizens were it just like myself
it wasn't a problem the drainage thing

551
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:39,440
that's a problem
but that came that preceded me okay so i

552
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:43,520
bought the property like you know about
your easements what we're finding in

553
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,800
colorado law and this is something i'm
not an attorney and i'm not going to

554
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:50,880
pretend to be one but one of the issues
i would like to see council

555
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:55,280
address or at least entertain and
consider is easement law has changed in

556
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,960
colorado with the introduction of the
expansion of fracking

557
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:03,599
what used to be of easement in
perpetuity in colorado law apparently is

558
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:08,480
no longer in perpetuity it has a
lifespan of 15 to 20 years therefore if

559
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:13,280
you're in a subdivision that was planted
into the years 2000 or earlier

560
00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:17,040
and those utility easements have not
been built there's no infrastructure

561
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,079
within the easement
those property owners could very well

562
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,839
come to you and say
my attorney's recommending that i close

563
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,079
off that easement
and for peak internet would i do that no

564
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:32,319
i invited them on to my property for a
gas line i might think twice

565
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,319
also

566
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,319
thank you

567
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,440
okay council can i get emotions

568
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:52,000
no it's a long one but i'll go ahead and
make it

569
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:59,040
i'd like to make a motion
to

570
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:04,000
approve
the initial posting of ordinance number

571
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:10,160
1403 series 2021
granting black hills colorado gas

572
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:14,400
incorporated dba black hills energy it's
leasing successors and assigns a natural

573
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,640
gas franchise
and the authority to construct operate

574
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:23,040
maintain and extend a natural gas
distribution plant and system

575
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:27,599
granting the right to use the streets
alleys and other public places within

576
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:33,760
the present or future corporate limits
of the city of woodland park consent the

577
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:37,440
public hearing for september 2nd 2021
very good

578
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
i'll second

579
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,440
nikai
yes neil yes

580
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:47,359
yes
yes

581
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:50,800
yes thank you motion carries unanimously
thank you

582
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:56,720
moving on to nine public hearings we've
got 9a for um to approve number 1401

583
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:00,480
series 2021 an ordinance approving the
purchase of certain water shares and kip

584
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:04,960
wiley is presenting
thank you council before you tonight

585
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:10,960
ordinance 1401 um as you recall on
august 5th 2021 you rep you approved

586
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:15,680
resolution 878 for the purchase of this
water share and this is coming back

587
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:19,920
forward forward to you because water
shares are considered real property and

588
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:23,440
you need to accept it as that real
property so

589
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:29,839
before you tonight and i recommend an
approval of ordinance 1401 for the

590
00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:33,920
0.6 shares in twin lakes reservoir in
colorado canal company and

591
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,160
recommend approval after the public
hearing

592
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,839
council any questions or comments

593
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:44,079
seeing none can i get a motion please

594
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:53,520
it's okay suzanne do you have anyone
online no man okay is there anyone in

595
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:57,599
the audience
seeing none

596
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:03,920
may i have a motion i'll make a motion
to approve num to approve number 1401

597
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:07,839
series 2021 and ordinance approving the
purchase of certain water shares

598
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,599
i did you
you know you don't have to read the

599
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:17,839
whole thing
can i get a second

600
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,839
oh i'll second it

601
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:20,880
neil

602
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,040
yes thank you emotion gears unanimously
thank you thank you

603
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:39,359
and now moving on to nine b's approval
of ordinance 1402 series 2021 to vacate

604
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,160
common lot lines and the presenter is
sally riley

605
00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:51,599
and i'd just like to briefly remind
council this is quasi-judicial please

606
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:54,960
stick to this topic and this topic only
thank you mayor protem

607
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:01,280
labar
this is ordinance 1402 to vacate a

608
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:06,799
common lot line
between

609
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:12,960
and easements between lot 14 c in
fairway pines filing number 2c

610
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:17,920
which is 240
iron eagle point

611
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:25,359
and lot 15
which is fairway pines filing number two

612
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:29,760
and addressed as 250 eagle iron eagle
point

613
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:32,880
as requested by john paul and jill
shulman

614
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,880
they are the property owners
and this is in a pud

615
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:41,359
in
fairway pines

616
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:47,440
so sharing the
exhibit

617
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:52,799
this is a private access easement
that

618
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:59,280
dead ends so to speak at these two lots
the shulmans have purchased both lot 14c

619
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:04,720
and lot 15
they intend to build a home

620
00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:09,359
after these lots are combined
so as a result

621
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:15,839
the common lot line and the easements
these are public easements across

622
00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:23,040
private property
are proposed to be vacated

623
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:26,799
uh i think the shulmans were going to be
here but i'm not

624
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:31,119
right
right behind me

625
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:38,160
so the owners are here if you have any
questions of them staff does recommend

626
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:44,960
approval and all the utility companies
have reviewed this as well as our own

627
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:49,200
staff and recommend approval
thank you council just briefly for the

628
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:54,160
record i did sell those lots but i
worked for the

629
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:58,880
seller not the buyers and i have no
interest in these lots whatsoever so i

630
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:02,480
just want that on the record
um council do you have any questions or

631
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:06,079
comments or would you like to hear from
the party at all

632
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:09,280
well i think for the record i think i've
met them

633
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:14,640
and they don't even know it i've walked
my dog by their you you have that

634
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:19,520
little rv right now yeah
we're future neighbors

635
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:22,380
um hello so
full disclosure

636
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,439
they're my neighbor
[Music]

637
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:32,960
very good council can i get a motion for
approval then publication

638
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,720
oh public hearing
every time every time

639
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:42,000
we're here for you suzanne do you have
anyone online no ma'am okay is there

640
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:46,000
anyone in the audience
seeing none

641
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:51,839
now may i please have the motion
i'll make a motion to approve ordinance

642
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,839
1402 series 2021

643
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,760
to vacate the common lot line in public
utilities and drainage of private access

644
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:03,640
easements
as described in the presentation by the

645
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:03,640
planning director

646
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:13,839
yes
yes

647
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:19,839
lavar yes nikai yes neil yes thank you
motion carries unanimously

648
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,839
thank you thanks sally

649
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:26,880
all right moving on to 10 new business
we have 10a approval of resolution

650
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:31,440
number 881
and kip wiley's presenting that as well

651
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:37,680
thank you
before council's resolution 881 to

652
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:42,960
allocate 32 taps to
a this project on brecken heights now

653
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:48,720
the reason this comes to council is any
multi-family project triplex or larger

654
00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:53,280
tabs can be allocated because in 1997
our tap management plan limited the

655
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:57,520
number of taps you could sell
to a developer or a builder in any given

656
00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:00,400
month and this allows for multi-family
projects to build

657
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:05,599
multiple
units at the same time

658
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:09,599
so before you tonight is 32
taps these taps would come out of the

659
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:15,280
multi-family bank currently the
multi-family bank has 64 taps in it

660
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:20,720
where do we get those taps those come
from the single family bank so

661
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:24,079
council also has to approve transfer
from the single family bank to the

662
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:27,760
multi-family bank
first of the year when we did the

663
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:33,520
the annual allotment
we had around

664
01:00:29,319 --> 01:00:38,640
503 taps don't quote me on the number
in the single-family bank and we had

665
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:44,400
we had additional taps in the
multi-family bank but to date uh council

666
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:49,839
has already approved eight multi-family
taps for um a project on

667
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:53,839
baldwin street uh and then this would
also come out of the same bank

668
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:58,480
uh what's interesting i was just telling
sally is it's the

669
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:03,119
year of 32 we've sold 32 taps so far
this year we are requesting 32 taps for

670
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:06,319
this project and we have 32 tabs left in
the multiple bank

671
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:10,799
so
good job yeah kind of interesting fact

672
01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:12,319
sorry
um

673
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,680
[Music]
so uh

674
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:20,400
the developer has requested these taps
there is a list of criteria that have

675
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,599
were established there are 11 criteria
and then the staff report i went through

676
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:28,720
in
indicated which criterias they met they

677
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:33,119
they met most of the criteria not all
but most there is no

678
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:38,400
uh definition on if they even have to
meet them all or any so it is up to

679
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:43,520
council's decision on whether or not to
allocate these taps to this project

680
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,880
this project is 16 duplexes
that are built on a crawl space they

681
01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:52,079
consist of about
1400 square feet

682
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:56,880
484 square feet of garage space it's
approximately a two-car garage

683
01:01:54,559 --> 01:02:00,160
there are two floor plans available that
include two or three bedroom units with

684
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:03,520
two bathrooms
next year finishes will be stucco and

685
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:08,799
stone and
available in earth tone colors

686
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:13,440
wrecking court also
will be a road that's put in with five

687
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:16,400
foot sidewalks and access to
additional sidewalks that are in the

688
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:21,440
area
with connection to

689
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:24,960
across the street which would be walmart
i'm here to answer any questions but

690
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,839
staff has looked at this and recommends
approval

691
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:32,400
uh for the 32
tap allocations

692
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:35,920
chair council yeah i have one question
kip uh on the

693
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,599
um
the background information that was

694
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:44,400
provided under the conditions of
approval there's a sentence that says

695
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:48,880
the developer is requesting the approval
of 53 water tap allocations for the

696
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:54,799
multi-family project
um can you connect the dots in my head

697
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:58,880
53 versus the 32 yep that is a typo in
my staff report the resolution is

698
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:05,440
correct uh so thank you for pointing
that out and i swear i put in 32 months

699
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:09,119
okay so 32 is that number correct way to
go

700
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:13,440
i just have one comment just for the
record um this development is going in

701
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:17,839
across the park from my house so if
anybody thinks i'm going to be biased

702
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,839
let me know

703
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:25,039
so um back to your 32 so
do you see any other

704
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:29,520
development happening that's going to
require more allocation multi-family

705
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:34,079
caps this year
great question uh if my crystal ball was

706
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:38,400
that clear i would not be sitting here
um however what is interesting about

707
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:43,440
this project and i failed to point this
out is the developer actually could

708
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:46,799
build up to 80 units on two lots here
they are

709
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:51,119
basically dedicating one lot to the city
that they could have built a number of

710
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:54,799
lock or units on and then even this lot
one where the 32 units are going they

711
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:59,119
could build up to
i believe it was 46 so we are actually

712
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,720
getting units back into our bank with
this development

713
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:06,160
yeah i recall when this was before us a
while ago i i like this development i

714
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:11,280
thought it was very
very sound so

715
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,319
my question was simply with regards
know forward moving

716
01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:17,280
it simply means it's got to come back to
council to allocate more into

717
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:21,039
multi-family if there's going to be more
this year uh for a different development

718
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:27,039
for any other for any other project yeah
anything triplex or larger okay

719
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:30,480
great no other questions thank you
counsel anything further

720
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:34,079
can i get a motion
public hearing

721
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:38,319
suzanne do you have anyone
no ma'am

722
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:44,640
is there anyone in the audience
okay seeing none now they have a motion

723
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:49,680
i will move to approve resolution number
881 series 2021

724
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:54,240
establishing 32 multi-family residential
water tap allotments for lot line of

725
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,240
breaking heights

726
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:12,960
yes thank you motion cares unanimously
excellent

727
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:17,280
council we're at number 11 already
that's six minutes remember i said

728
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:20,799
because no it won't be 30 minutes
all right so rondo 11 reports

729
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:30,480
i don't have any special announcements
just um the motorcycle that's right yeah

730
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:35,520
the veterans rally uh is um
saturday and i think tomorrow well as

731
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:40,319
well it's also tomorrow yeah so i was
going to give that to you so i'm happy

732
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:43,920
too good um the
39th annual

733
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:49,039
2021
salute to american veterans rally and

734
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,039
the

735
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:58,160
uh is it the 30th 29th
uh pow mia recognition ride to

736
01:05:55,599 --> 01:06:03,520
creek or through creek is this
weekend beginning tomorrow afternoon

737
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,440
um they will have the red t-shirt
giveaway

738
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:11,119
in the park you'll probably notice there
were some tents and things going up in

739
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:15,599
the north end of the park
in preparation for the rally

740
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:19,039
it's
it's a

741
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:24,880
very timely
celebration of our veterans in our

742
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:29,760
community in our state in our country
we've seen some pretty disturbing things

743
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,799
as of late going on
and

744
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:37,119
i think there's a number of veterans
that have served that are

745
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:42,160
feeling some disappointment or some
different feelings right now so it's a

746
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:46,240
great opportunity to honor those
that have served

747
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:49,760
and protected our freedoms there will be
a

748
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:53,760
boatload of them here over the weekend
so please thank them when you see them

749
01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:58,799
for their service
join us if you can the tomorrow

750
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:02,880
afternoon is friday in the park there's
vendors there's going to and saturday is

751
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:06,480
the ride
we are gathering between 7 30 the ride

752
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:10,640
will leave
probably at 10 o'clock the last

753
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:16,880
registered motorcycle will be ryder will
be at night at

754
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:22,400
9 30 promptly leaving at 10.
the roads will be blocked and highway 24

755
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:28,559
blocked from 9 30 until about
10 45 i believe so plan accordingly

756
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:35,839
we all know that we all know how to get
around town without the use of 24.

757
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:40,640
um go east and you'll get behind them
um and then the rally in town on

758
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:44,640
saturday and the ceremonies they are
actually giving away a

759
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:49,119
modified motorcycle
three-wheeler for a veteran

760
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,839
that has
many different special needs they've

761
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:59,119
flown him in i believe from chicago to
honor him by presenting that motorcycle

762
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:05,280
to him getting him back on the road
um here at our rally so that'll be a a

763
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:08,160
tear jerker i'm sure
and then

764
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:12,799
there will be bands
there will be a beer garden there will

765
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:16,560
be vendors
and good camaraderie and opportunities

766
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:21,759
to thank those that have served our
country so i hope to see you all there

767
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:24,239
i won't be riding this year
but

768
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:28,400
look forward to celebrating with
everyone

769
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:31,920
thank you hillary
catherine i don't have anything

770
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:38,480
i had two liaison
meetings the first one was a special

771
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:43,279
meeting for the
historic preservation committee on

772
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:50,159
august 9th it was a very simple meeting
in which a historical building

773
01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:54,719
located at 720 west highway 24
was requesting to re-roof

774
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,279
uh the building it was approved
that's all i have for the historic

775
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:01,279
preservation
um in terms of the dda we had a meeting

776
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,880
this past
tuesday it was

777
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:09,279
a little confusing at first it was going
to be a workshop that it

778
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:13,759
was announced as a special meeting we
did go through the process

779
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:17,120
of voting to make sure went back to a
workshop

780
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:21,679
status officially
no business was conducted there was a

781
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,839
lot of topics
that

782
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:30,719
are under consideration
nothing

783
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:34,600
that i i'm going to go into any depth
for sake of time

784
01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:46,159
um
yeah firstly with regards to the

785
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,520
veterans rally if any of you know any
veterans who are struggling with

786
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:53,520
post-traumatic
syndrome or depression or suicide or

787
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:58,400
anything like that
one of our prior council members paul

788
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:02,400
sonja is
part of a team who's organizing a

789
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:06,880
retreat fishing kayaking
stuff like that

790
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:10,320
i'm not sure when the the closure date
of applications is but it's coming up

791
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,280
here in september the events coming up
september so if you

792
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:17,760
do
want to refer somebody either

793
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:21,280
contact me or paul paul paul probably is
a direct one but if you don't have his

794
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:25,040
contact information
um

795
01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:30,400
secondly i also i'm excited to see how
uh this

796
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:35,440
maiden voyage for the veterans rally uh
flies here in uh woodham park so

797
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:41,120
it'll be an experiment and the
debriefing afterwards to see how how uh

798
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:44,480
we all do with it so i welcome them with
open arms and look forward to what's

799
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:48,320
going to happen
as far as the ppacg

800
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:53,760
some interesting workshops been
happening uh this week

801
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:58,080
educating coloradans about some laws
that are coming down with regards

802
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:00,880
electric vehicles with regards uh
transport train transport and stuff like

803
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:03,600
that
um

804
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:10,080
a little disturbing a number of us were
concerned that these mandates are coming

805
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:13,920
down from the state to turn the state
majority of electric vehicles in a short

806
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:18,880
period of time
and forgetting the fact that as a at

807
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:21,520
least one of my concerns was
you start making all these electric

808
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,040
vehicles
well all the all the batteries are

809
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:29,920
manufactured in china
so what's that do for uh energy

810
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:33,360
independence what's that do for uh
security

811
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:38,159
secondly is all issue of the disposal of
the batteries um you know nothing said

812
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:42,159
about it oh yeah it's free energy it's
it's clean energy but it's not when you

813
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:45,920
look at the recycle end of it so those
issues haven't really been discussed

814
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:52,320
and uh
there was a number of people on the ppa

815
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:57,040
zg who had different tactful
questions about where this is all going

816
01:11:54,480 --> 01:12:01,679
so that's one and then of course like
here we are where it's so cold a

817
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:05,280
battery's supposed to last 300 300 miles
but when it gets cold it's not going to

818
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:09,280
go that far and just imagine yourself in
a snow drift with your battery going

819
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,159
flat so there's a few things that don't
seem to be worked out but it's coming

820
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,480
our way
the second one is electric train or not

821
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:20,800
electric trains uh is trains across the
state and there's a whole deal with

822
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,520
what that infrastructure is going to
look like it's not going to affect us

823
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,840
but
anyway that's all from ppacg

824
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,800
and
i like oh bye

825
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:37,040
i did forget one
thing for my ladies

826
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:41,840
and it didn't occur during the workshop
but as a liaison

827
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:48,000
i wanted to report that elijah murphy
did resign effective yesterday

828
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:52,800
for the reasons that he stated uh at the
last council meeting i had reached out

829
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:56,320
to him and asked him to reconsider
i think he's got some concerns that i

830
01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:01,040
too have
and was hoping that we could put both

831
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:05,520
sides of you know the division of the
city into the room and work together and

832
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:10,000
work through it to see that people on
both sides are

833
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:15,120
hardworking he reconsidered but still uh
stood on his resignation and it was

834
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:20,480
effective as of yesterday very good and
suzanne that reminds us that we need to

835
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:24,560
advertise both positions now thank you
thank you

836
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,560
all right nina

837
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:31,360
i don't have a report but i just want to
thank the council for their faith in us

838
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:34,800
for the city attorney um when we first
were asked to apply in february a lot of

839
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:37,600
people warned us about the challenge but
it's something that isn't

840
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:42,159
the least
but it's something that's important um

841
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:46,560
to us it's part of our mission why we do
this work um especially where we embrace

842
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:49,440
the challenge but also where we see that
there's um

843
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,719
you know the impact that you're all
collectively making and you are all are

844
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:56,400
um
you know really making steps

845
01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:58,880
good really good steps to for that
towards your community and you have a

846
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:03,120
really good staff that we're also
honored to work with um

847
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,600
so thank you very much and also i think
you all met elliott brownies our new

848
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:08,960
attorney so
now

849
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:12,000
he's uh started we had meetings about
half the day with different staff and

850
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:16,480
working on different
um things so we we really enjoy working

851
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:20,000
here and um thank you
thank you nina is he old enough to have

852
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,810
gone to school
and really graduated

853
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:29,440
he didn't know what e.t was
[Laughter]

854
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:33,280
but that's a compliment yes he's he's um
i've been a lawyer about two years um

855
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:36,320
graduated from colorado so nice yeah
very good welcome

856
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,760
and yes
welcome let me get you

857
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,120
um
so first a question for the council very

858
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,080
important question what is the
difference between a well-dressed man on

859
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,840
a bicycle
and a poorly dressed man on a tricycle

860
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:56,600
one wheel a tire

861
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,480
um
in a little bit more serious vayne um

862
01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:16,080
[Music]
if you'd like to know more about the

863
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:20,239
veterans rally uh there's a really
helpful website the

864
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:25,120
veteransrally.org uh has a lot of
details about the ride itself it has a

865
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:29,280
very well detailed program
in terms of the timing and everything

866
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:34,440
and i believe routes may be on here as
well a list of closures and locations of

867
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:39,280
closures are on the city's website
citydashwoodlandpark.org so some some

868
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,760
final helpful resources for you
um

869
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:46,719
we
are full on the citizens academy we

870
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,679
filled up quite quickly and so uh we do
have a waiting list the waiting list is

871
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:54,080
also quite long
um but you know there's always a chance

872
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:56,719
um but we we thank folks who have signed
up and taken interest in that that's

873
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:01,600
really exciting
um the keep woodland park beautiful

874
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,719
community cleanup is saturday august
28th

875
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:07,840
uh from 9 to 12
registration will start at 8 30 in the

876
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:11,840
morning
at the upass cultural center uh midland

877
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:14,800
pavilion
so we'll get another

878
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:20,000
shot at cleaning up our community went
really well last time we hope to see you

879
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:25,199
there thank you for considering that
and then finally a really exciting note

880
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:27,600
to end on sales tax and lodging tax
that you know it actually is kind of

881
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:32,000
exciting
in a sense the city is doing uh pretty

882
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:37,360
well in these areas
sales tax year to date is up 13.4

883
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:40,800
percent over 2020.
um

884
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:46,400
things slowed down a little bit in may
of this year uh you know 7.6 percent

885
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:50,480
growth in me i'm still pretty good but
we've in june we started seeing this

886
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:55,280
double-digit year-over-year growth again
so um things continue to do well here

887
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:59,120
um
i know that there was a 15.8 percent

888
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:03,760
increase over june of last year for
sales tax just for the month of june

889
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:06,960
um as we all know and probably are
feeling at this point inflation's a big

890
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:10,960
part of that
um

891
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:14,080
the consumer price index increased 5.4
over the 12 months prior which is the

892
01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:17,679
biggest increase
uh since august of 2008

893
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:23,040
and so
um i i found uh some

894
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:28,880
yes yes
i found it interesting that uh the price

895
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:32,800
for used cars has increased 41.7 percent
over 12 months prior

896
01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:37,440
um
sell our cars sell our houses i just

897
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:41,760
will just have to walk and
i can't help you with that yes

898
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,960
yes
um

899
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:47,920
and so energy costs obviously are going
up across the board to regardless of

900
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:52,800
what they are so
um on lodging tax it's it's much the

901
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:56,560
same story uh year to date we're up 68
and a half percent uh through the end of

902
01:17:54,719 --> 01:18:01,040
june over 2020
um we're gonna start to see some kind of

903
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:05,520
stabilization
uh in that

904
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:10,000
lodging tax we were having triple digit
growth over last year because if you all

905
01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:15,040
recall we've told you for months about
microtel opening and then having this

906
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:18,880
lodging rev software system uh to better
capture watching tax revenues well it's

907
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:21,920
been a year since then and so we're kind
of we're kind of doing one of these

908
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:27,520
leveling off things
um that said we we still have lodging

909
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:30,320
tax increase by uh 10.7 percent in the
month of june

910
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:38,239
well and wasn't lodging still closed
down pretty much at this point last year

911
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:41,679
or had we started to open again
i don't remember

912
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:47,199
you know we forget those awful things
that happen in our lives dad miller is

913
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:50,719
shaking her head no thank you
were we okay

914
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,199
thank you so much she should have known
she would know

915
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:58,400
so even better news on that point so
people are coming to win the park

916
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,760
they're staying in woodland park and
hopefully well they're spending money in

917
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:05,520
woodland park i mean here it is so
um and that's uh that those those are

918
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:12,400
the highlights we do of course have
supporting documentation uh if you like

919
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,400
that's all i got

920
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:19,199
the finance directors
oh

921
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:23,520
our brand new finance director this is
dave four from mr vasilati he has joined

922
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:28,320
us online
um he's jumping in with both feet

923
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:32,640
hair on fire no doubt
but he's got a great attitude you never

924
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:37,600
know it um i don't know if aaron can
speak but uh i don't know if i want to

925
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:41,840
put him on the spot either but uh
um he

926
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:45,679
uh aaron is is working remotely for us
at the time as as all of us know it's

927
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,800
kind of difficult to find housing in
this area

928
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:52,719
uh right now and so he's working through
that he's doing his best but uh he's

929
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,880
he's already made great contributions
he's

930
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:59,440
teaching me stuff about accounting
already um and so i'm grateful for that

931
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,080
in a matter of speaking
um

932
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:05,360
but he he knows it all so we're grateful
to have him

933
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:12,520
awesome
great anything further

934
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,520
all right and this meeting is adjourned