1 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:13,726 Okay. Welcome everybody to the City of Wyandotte Zoning Board of Appeals and 2 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:15,840 Adjustments. Today is Wednesday, September 2nd. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,280 We're in the council chambers at City Hall. Julie, could you call the roll please? 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,451 Members Duran. 5 00:00:21,810 --> 00:00:22,050 Yes. 6 00:00:22,260 --> 00:00:22,831 Glassman. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,190 Yes. 8 00:00:23,491 --> 00:00:23,880 Gillen. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,451 Yes. 10 00:00:24,510 --> 00:00:25,080 Hamill. 11 00:00:25,140 --> 00:00:25,381 Yes. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,161 Simchuk. 13 00:00:26,430 --> 00:00:26,640 Yes. 14 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,290 Members DeSanto, McDonald, Olsen, and Triviano are all excused. 15 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,901 Okay, thank you. We have no communications. 16 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,740 We have minutes from the August 5th meeting that are in your packet. 17 00:00:38,820 --> 00:00:42,481 If there's any discussion on these changes or revisions, otherwise I'll entertain a 18 00:00:42,510 --> 00:00:43,260 motion on these. 19 00:00:43,411 --> 00:00:44,490 Motion to approve. 20 00:00:44,610 --> 00:00:44,850 Okay. 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:45,810 Please on file. 22 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,270 All right. Support? All in favor? 23 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:48,901 Aye. 24 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,651 Opposed? Okay. All right. We have one appeal this evening. 25 00:00:52,770 --> 00:00:54,600 How it works is I'll read the appeal. 26 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,110 The owner and the appellant will come forward to the micro... 27 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,261 Does that microphone work or no? You want to put the thing... Okay. 28 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:05,040 So they'll come up. Just speak loudly, state your name and address for the record, 29 00:01:05,130 --> 00:01:09,301 give us a little summary of what you're doing, and then the board will ask you 30 00:01:09,390 --> 00:01:12,540 questions. Then we'll have the public come up with any statements they want to 31 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,950 make. And then at the end, when we close the public portion, we will deliberate and 32 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:20,700 make a decision tonight. So, you'll know before you leave. 33 00:01:21,180 --> 00:01:22,711 So we just have the one appeal today. 34 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:29,970 Appeal 3441. Jeffrey Dziedzic, owner, and Yvonne Diaz-Flores, appellant, have 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,660 appealed to the Zoning Board of Appeals and Adjustments of the City of Wyandotte 36 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,115 for a certificate of occupancy for a dance studio at 2050 Ford, Wyandotte, 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,771 Michigan, Lots 237-238, Shore Grove Subdivision, in a B-1 zoning district where the 38 00:01:43,891 --> 00:01:49,560 proposed conflicts with Section 190.324.R.1.A of the zoning 39 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:54,601 ordinance, and that section reads, "The minimum off-street parking requirement for 40 00:01:54,660 --> 00:01:59,730 a dance studio is 12 parking spaces, where only four parking spaces are provided." 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,170 Is anyone here that wants to... Are the owners here, are the appellant here at all? 42 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,510 If you could come forward, please. 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,840 And again, your name and address, just repeat it again for the record and just give 44 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:14,250 us an overview of what you're doing. 45 00:02:14,671 --> 00:02:16,500 Okay. My name is Yvonne Diaz-Flores. 46 00:02:16,950 --> 00:02:21,360 I'm the owner of In Focus Dance Center, which is located at 2034 Ford Avenue. 47 00:02:22,141 --> 00:02:23,520 Did you want my home address as well? 48 00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:24,391 No, that's fine. 49 00:02:24,405 --> 00:02:24,570 Just that? 50 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:25,560 The business is fine. Yeah. 51 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:30,690 So I'm seeking to obtain a certificate of occupancy with the hope of purchasing the 52 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:33,090 building located at 2050 Ford Avenue. 53 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:39,570 I think the most pertinent point in this case is that I currently own 2034, 54 00:02:40,171 --> 00:02:43,171 so this would be an additional dance space, not a new studio. 55 00:02:43,770 --> 00:02:48,930 The building located at 2034 already has eight parking spots, so with the four 56 00:02:48,990 --> 00:02:53,310 additional at 2050, we would then meet the requirement of 12 parking spots. 57 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:57,630 Okay. So you're going to have the dance studio pretty much expanded into that 58 00:02:57,780 --> 00:02:57,900 building. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,500 Exactly. 60 00:02:58,546 --> 00:02:58,546 Okay. 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:04,260 It's another dance space. And in my original proposal, I talked about how we now 62 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:09,135 do competition dance. It's grown a lot, and one of the big things is more props and 63 00:03:09,660 --> 00:03:13,860 larger numbers, which we just don't have space for props in our current location, 64 00:03:13,951 --> 00:03:18,601 so we'd have storage. And the other very important thing to note is that our studio 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,880 is drop-off and pick-up, so the only people who actually stay in the lobby are 66 00:03:23,940 --> 00:03:26,910 parents of our youngest dancers, which are five and under who need help using the 67 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:31,410 restroom. Everyone else, if they have a younger dancer, they might come pick them 68 00:03:31,470 --> 00:03:33,421 up, but they are not sitting in the studio. 69 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Okay. May I ask your hours of operation? 70 00:03:37,171 --> 00:03:42,945 Yes. Well, summer, hardly anything at all, but Monday through 71 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:47,940 Friday, 4:30 to 9:00. And then Saturdays 10:00 a.m. 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,050 to 1:00 p.m. 73 00:03:50,041 --> 00:03:50,760 And no Sunday? 74 00:03:51,150 --> 00:03:51,781 No Sunday. 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,840 Okay. Thank you. Just to get an overview of that. 76 00:03:56,730 --> 00:04:00,945 Okay. If you want to just stay there, we're going to have the board ask questions 77 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:03,000 first, and then you can sit down, and we'll have the- 78 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:03,781 Okay 79 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:06,315 ... neighbors come up and say whatever they need to say. 80 00:04:06,421 --> 00:04:09,630 I also have a letter from Dennis Cole that I'll read. 81 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,690 So just stay around till the end, and then we'll deliberate. 82 00:04:12,734 --> 00:04:12,734 Okay. 83 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:15,976 Once we've heard everybody, then you can always come back up if you have anything 84 00:04:16,020 --> 00:04:21,960 else to add. Okay? Thank you. Oh, I'm sorry. Stay there. Go to Richard. 85 00:04:22,050 --> 00:04:24,781 Rich, you got any questions you'd like to have answered? 86 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:27,480 No. I drove by, and I took a look to see. 87 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:32,460 I know the building next door, where you were talking about, that's been standing 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,281 vacant for a while. And then, I know on the backside it had a couple of 89 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:41,580 parking spaces, but you said it has four? 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,591 Correct. That's what actually I spoke to Mr. Placencia, I believe. 91 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:46,920 Yes. 92 00:04:46,935 --> 00:04:48,960 Yeah. And that's the LME measure house. 93 00:04:51,150 --> 00:04:52,710 Yeah, really no other questions. 94 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:54,164 All right. James. 95 00:04:54,900 --> 00:05:00,031 The only part that wasn't clear to me was the business that's a cleaning business 96 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:02,760 that put a sign there. So that is actually in between- 97 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:03,420 Exactly 98 00:05:03,435 --> 00:05:03,960 ... these two? 99 00:05:04,290 --> 00:05:04,500 Yes. 100 00:05:04,740 --> 00:05:06,210 So that's still there. So 101 00:05:07,770 --> 00:05:13,410 the building that you're acquiring is not directly adjacent, it's one neighbor 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:13,620 over. 103 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:14,910 Exactly correct. Yeah. 104 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:16,770 All right. That clarifies that. 105 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:18,960 Mike. 106 00:05:19,951 --> 00:05:21,091 I thought that was interesting. 107 00:05:22,201 --> 00:05:22,216 Yeah. 108 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:24,091 Are you trying to acquire that building? 109 00:05:25,260 --> 00:05:27,300 They're still operational, so I have not. 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:33,270 It was just, me knowing that 2050 has been empty for so long was 111 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:34,440 what kind of attracted me. 112 00:05:34,830 --> 00:05:37,800 So you're not going to increase 113 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:40,920 any of your student number? 114 00:05:41,130 --> 00:05:42,930 Well, that was also something in my... 115 00:05:43,050 --> 00:05:46,440 So we, of course, as a business, always want to grow. 116 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,640 But in Downriver, there are many dance studios, and we have been right around the 117 00:05:50,670 --> 00:05:56,595 200 mark for at least five years. And actually, I studied at 118 00:05:56,610 --> 00:05:58,920 the original Marsha Ahlers, which was 2034. 119 00:06:00,210 --> 00:06:03,690 And when she retired, the studio had more students. 120 00:06:03,750 --> 00:06:08,670 It had 250 as opposed to the 200 we have now. So we actually have less students. 121 00:06:08,730 --> 00:06:12,120 They're just there longer, which is another reason the parents drop and clean 122 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:13,201 because they're there all night. 123 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,350 Is this a purchase or a rent? 124 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:17,910 I'm looking to purchase. 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,630 Okay. 126 00:06:21,390 --> 00:06:22,531 A real quick question. 127 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:29,099 Is there an inspection that goes with 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,920 purchasing a commercial property? 129 00:06:34,470 --> 00:06:38,640 It just looked a little ragged out front. I was just wondering. 130 00:06:40,201 --> 00:06:46,186 Good evening. Yes, there would be a sale inspection required for 131 00:06:46,201 --> 00:06:47,250 the purchase of the building. 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,605 Okay. I just want it- 133 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:50,311 Yep 134 00:06:50,370 --> 00:06:51,600 ... just want it to be stated. 135 00:06:52,530 --> 00:06:52,920 Yep. 136 00:06:52,966 --> 00:06:52,966 Okay. 137 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:54,375 And you are aware of that then? 138 00:06:54,990 --> 00:06:59,280 Yes, for sure, because I did it with the original. I own 2034 as well. 139 00:06:59,311 --> 00:06:59,460 Good. 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,000 So I went through- 141 00:07:00,210 --> 00:07:05,940 I think it'll be an improvement. That area looks a little bit the same for a very 142 00:07:06,061 --> 00:07:06,720 long time. 143 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,110 Yeah. 144 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:09,135 So if you're going to give it a facelift. 145 00:07:09,165 --> 00:07:12,151 Yes, absolutely. My husband's ready to go in to fix it up. 146 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:13,035 Okay. Sounds real good. 147 00:07:13,035 --> 00:07:13,591 That's his job. 148 00:07:13,951 --> 00:07:15,030 Real good. Thank you. 149 00:07:15,091 --> 00:07:16,440 Okay. Ian, anything? 150 00:07:16,530 --> 00:07:19,591 My only question was about the numbers, so I just ask that as far as the enrollment 151 00:07:19,651 --> 00:07:25,230 goes and how that might increase as you expand the 152 00:07:25,260 --> 00:07:25,740 space. 153 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,930 Right. Yeah, I don't anticipate... 154 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:30,750 The other thing we have a lot of are private lessons. 155 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:34,500 So we have 30 private lessons a season, and they're half an hour each. 156 00:07:34,561 --> 00:07:39,570 So if you look at our hours of operation, that means there's one teacher and one 157 00:07:39,660 --> 00:07:41,311 student in that big room. 158 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:47,610 All right. Thank you. Do you have anything else you want to say before we go to the 159 00:07:48,061 --> 00:07:50,820 public hearing? Public comment. 160 00:07:50,865 --> 00:07:50,865 Yeah. I think that's it. 161 00:07:50,865 --> 00:07:53,460 Okay. Take a seat, and then we'll call you back up. 162 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:57,030 Let me read this letter real quick before anybody comes up. 163 00:07:57,091 --> 00:08:00,930 This says, "To whom it may concern, this letter is regarding the proposed dance 164 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,760 studio at 2050 Ford Avenue. I live at 1890 20th Street, directly behind this dance 165 00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:10,230 studio. My garage is located on the alley adjacent to the dance studio parking lot, 166 00:08:10,620 --> 00:08:12,930 so the alley effectively serves as my driveway. 167 00:08:13,201 --> 00:08:16,770 From my perspective, I do not see any problem with the current parking situation. 168 00:08:16,860 --> 00:08:20,490 I have also discussed the matter with neighboring residents, and they have 169 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:24,195 expressed similar views. In general, parents bringing children to dance classes 170 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:27,780 drop them off and pick them up, and very few remain on-site during class. 171 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,329 If anyone were to be negatively impacted by parking activity, it would likely be me 172 00:08:33,420 --> 00:08:35,880 since my access is directly connected to the alley. 173 00:08:36,270 --> 00:08:38,910 However, I have not experienced any issues or concerns. 174 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,105 The dance studio is a tremendous asset to our community. 175 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,380 It provides a positive environment where children can learn, develop, and grow. 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,651 In addition, the owners take excellent care of both their building and surrounding 177 00:08:49,681 --> 00:08:52,200 property, contributing positively to the neighborhood. 178 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:55,681 For these reasons, I support the dance studio and do not believe the current 179 00:08:55,740 --> 00:08:57,526 parking situation presents a problem. 180 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:02,910 Sincerely, Dennis Cole." So I just wanted to read that into the record. Okay. 181 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:05,850 Anybody that wants to come up and speak, please come up, state your name and 182 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:10,530 address, and then state your support or opposition or whatever you want to say, 183 00:09:10,561 --> 00:09:12,825 your comments about the situation. 184 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:15,300 And then we're just talking about the parking right now. 185 00:09:15,330 --> 00:09:17,340 So that's what we're focused on. Thank you 186 00:09:18,894 --> 00:09:24,654 Jean Silvassi, 1889 21st. I am the other house 187 00:09:24,955 --> 00:09:30,774 adjacent to the alley across from 2050 Ford Avenue. 188 00:09:30,894 --> 00:09:31,344 Okay. 189 00:09:33,564 --> 00:09:37,045 My opinion is totally different than Dennis Cole. 190 00:09:39,144 --> 00:09:42,384 This has been nothing but a problem for years. 191 00:09:43,014 --> 00:09:48,114 The last time I was at a zoning board meeting opposing somebody else going in that 192 00:09:48,205 --> 00:09:50,334 I thought was going to create more traffic, 193 00:09:52,914 --> 00:09:54,624 the group still approved it. 194 00:09:56,394 --> 00:09:57,384 I cannot 195 00:09:58,734 --> 00:10:04,224 get in and out of my garage when I want to between 4:00 and 196 00:10:04,524 --> 00:10:05,724 9:30 at night. 197 00:10:07,524 --> 00:10:12,264 And then if I even can get in the alley, because they double park, they're using 198 00:10:12,325 --> 00:10:18,174 the alley for a parking lot. And some of these parents do sit there in the alley 199 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:21,564 the whole time their child is in the dance studio. 200 00:10:22,014 --> 00:10:27,834 I don't remember if it's Tuesday or Wednesday evenings, but when I open the 201 00:10:27,864 --> 00:10:33,504 garage door the next morning, all these cigarette butts on the apron to my 202 00:10:33,564 --> 00:10:39,534 garage because somebody sat out there smoking for 45 minutes while their child 203 00:10:39,594 --> 00:10:45,054 was in the dance studio. They've also parked up on the apron of my 204 00:10:45,084 --> 00:10:49,554 garage. They're not just blocking the garage, they're on my property. 205 00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:54,054 You wouldn't appreciate it if you came home and somebody was in your driveway or 206 00:10:54,084 --> 00:10:56,064 blocking the entrance to your garage. 207 00:10:56,724 --> 00:11:02,604 And then, now I open the garage door, and sometimes it's already dark, 208 00:11:03,624 --> 00:11:08,064 and I've got the car lined up right at the garage, but there's somebody parked 209 00:11:08,154 --> 00:11:11,754 right in front of my garage door. Do you think they move? No. 210 00:11:12,084 --> 00:11:17,513 I have to get out of the car, knock on their car window, and my 211 00:11:17,664 --> 00:11:23,424 usual statement is, "Excuse me, but you're blocking my garage." I have 212 00:11:23,484 --> 00:11:29,214 been grunted at, snarled at, glared at, and all but spat on. 213 00:11:29,904 --> 00:11:33,504 And then one woman said to me, "Well, you expect me to move? 214 00:11:33,594 --> 00:11:38,004 I'm waiting for my daughter." I said, "You're blocking my garage." 215 00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:40,839 Okay. 216 00:11:40,884 --> 00:11:43,254 This goes on and on. 217 00:11:44,455 --> 00:11:47,964 So like I said, my perspective is totally different. 218 00:11:48,205 --> 00:11:48,325 Okay. 219 00:11:48,474 --> 00:11:54,295 And I am afraid, and I know what she said, but that they expand, they're going to 220 00:11:54,325 --> 00:11:57,894 have more students, and we're going to even have more traffic. 221 00:11:58,974 --> 00:12:04,764 You can't park on our street. They overflow onto 21st and 20th. 222 00:12:04,779 --> 00:12:10,404 And like I said, I have to live my life around the dance 223 00:12:10,464 --> 00:12:15,774 studio because I can't come and go as I please. That's a public alley. 224 00:12:16,014 --> 00:12:21,924 The alley ordinance says no standing or parking, and they block 225 00:12:21,939 --> 00:12:27,189 the alley for hours. It might not be the same car, but one leaves and there's 226 00:12:27,295 --> 00:12:32,364 another one out there. But there's double rows and also when the weather's nicer, 227 00:12:32,545 --> 00:12:38,184 sitting in my backyard isn't nice because I've got all these fumes from all these 228 00:12:38,214 --> 00:12:41,244 backed up cars sitting in the alley. No. 229 00:12:42,205 --> 00:12:45,114 I'm sorry, but this has gone on for years. 230 00:12:45,234 --> 00:12:50,814 I've complained about it before, and I don't understand if it's two 231 00:12:50,964 --> 00:12:56,094 separate buildings, how you can qualify that that's 12 parking places. 232 00:12:56,184 --> 00:13:00,325 They've been short of parking space for years, and 233 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:05,604 what they've got right now is overflowing into 2050 parking. 234 00:13:05,844 --> 00:13:11,695 They use that parking lot now, even though the dance studio isn't at that property. 235 00:13:12,295 --> 00:13:18,174 So it's not going to increase their parking space by them going into 2050 because 236 00:13:18,204 --> 00:13:23,214 those parents park anywhere they can squeeze in. 237 00:13:23,664 --> 00:13:29,484 I've had somebody, I'm backing out of the garage, and I've had a woman whiz in 238 00:13:29,695 --> 00:13:34,614 and park right behind me that I got to stop backing out of the garage. 239 00:13:35,335 --> 00:13:37,659 And then her too, she says, "Well, just give me a minute. 240 00:13:37,734 --> 00:13:43,464 I have to take my daughter in." No. This is wrong. This is totally illegal. 241 00:13:44,874 --> 00:13:47,140 Okay. All right. Thank you for your comments. 242 00:13:47,184 --> 00:13:48,489 Dennis, may I ask a question? 243 00:13:49,599 --> 00:13:49,599 Okay. 244 00:13:49,614 --> 00:13:51,894 Have you made that complaint to the police department? 245 00:13:53,484 --> 00:13:53,784 Yes. 246 00:13:54,474 --> 00:13:54,774 Okay. 247 00:13:56,124 --> 00:13:59,634 Have you made that to the engineering department or municipal service that they can 248 00:13:59,664 --> 00:14:04,015 put up signs, such as they have handicap signs or deaf children? 249 00:14:04,644 --> 00:14:10,614 It's pretty obvious that it's against the law to park in front of a driveway. 250 00:14:11,394 --> 00:14:15,894 Now, I'm not positive on an alley, but I think an alley, as long as that's your 251 00:14:16,015 --> 00:14:21,549 only access from your garage, equals to the same purpose as a driveway 252 00:14:22,015 --> 00:14:27,820 or an approach on a street. So therefore, if somebody is blocking your 253 00:14:27,864 --> 00:14:28,494 driveway, 254 00:14:30,384 --> 00:14:34,765 you could call the police department and ask for them to issue a ticket. 255 00:14:35,394 --> 00:14:40,914 If it's really that bad going on, I would start taking photographs of the cars that 256 00:14:40,945 --> 00:14:41,695 are doing that. 257 00:14:42,714 --> 00:14:42,729 Mm-hmm. 258 00:14:42,774 --> 00:14:45,684 Cigarette butts, I quit 32 years ago. 259 00:14:46,585 --> 00:14:51,024 I never threw my cigarette butts on the ground. It's disgusting. 260 00:14:51,774 --> 00:14:52,195 Mm-hmm. 261 00:14:53,724 --> 00:14:57,414 That's littering. I still think that's a $500 fine. 262 00:14:58,134 --> 00:14:58,374 Now- 263 00:14:59,335 --> 00:14:59,979 Take pictures 264 00:15:00,384 --> 00:15:06,219 ... I would hate to restrict a dance studio to improve the studio and 265 00:15:06,354 --> 00:15:08,695 help these children and what they're doing 266 00:15:10,314 --> 00:15:15,984 because of a few rude people. And believe me, I understand rude people because I 267 00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:19,974 lived on the streets and still do, where we call them crazy moms. 268 00:15:20,634 --> 00:15:23,064 The ones that drop their kids off to school and pick them up. 269 00:15:23,664 --> 00:15:25,344 It's hard to pull out of your driveway 270 00:15:26,754 --> 00:15:28,314 because they're going so fast. 271 00:15:28,734 --> 00:15:29,244 Right. 272 00:15:29,424 --> 00:15:35,184 Okay. It's a problem in Wyandotte. We have a parking problem in Wyandotte. 273 00:15:35,454 --> 00:15:40,554 There's no doubt about it. But I would suggest that you address it through the 274 00:15:40,614 --> 00:15:44,545 proper channels and see if you can resolve the situation. 275 00:15:45,295 --> 00:15:50,258 And I suppose that with the mothers or fathers, whoever drop off their children, 276 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:57,474 if they're all of a sudden, they all really know that they're getting a $150, $250 277 00:15:57,534 --> 00:16:03,414 ticket for blocking your driveway, I think that they would stop blocking your 278 00:16:03,445 --> 00:16:09,085 driveway. So you have to address the issue, not come to the zoning board and say, 279 00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:15,129 "Deny this." Because in my view, if we deny this, it's not going 280 00:16:15,144 --> 00:16:16,825 to change the situation one bit. 281 00:16:17,274 --> 00:16:18,174 No, I realize that. 282 00:16:18,265 --> 00:16:22,585 So I'm trying to help you look at your situation and address it. 283 00:16:23,079 --> 00:16:23,094 And- 284 00:16:23,124 --> 00:16:28,075 That's why I've talked to the police department, and I've talked to the zoning 285 00:16:28,134 --> 00:16:33,654 officer, the ordinance officer, and he assured me that they are 286 00:16:33,684 --> 00:16:36,295 notifying the afternoon patrol 287 00:16:37,704 --> 00:16:38,454 to... 288 00:16:42,414 --> 00:16:47,259 I can't think of the word. Yeah. To- 289 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:47,904 Patrol the area? 290 00:16:48,414 --> 00:16:48,460 Yeah. 291 00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:50,364 Yeah, they have rounds. 292 00:16:50,964 --> 00:16:53,335 Yeah. Put that on high attention. 293 00:16:53,575 --> 00:16:57,249 I'm just saying is that if we deny this or approve it one way or the other, it 294 00:16:57,295 --> 00:17:02,289 appears that it will not help or hinder the situation one way or the other, 295 00:17:02,784 --> 00:17:06,203 especially the person that puts the cigarette butts out, or she. I'm sorry. 296 00:17:06,265 --> 00:17:06,414 Yeah. 297 00:17:06,804 --> 00:17:08,575 The person that puts the cigarette butts out. 298 00:17:09,835 --> 00:17:13,914 People emptying their ashtrays in the street just drive me nuts, or parking lots. 299 00:17:14,410 --> 00:17:20,094 But anyways, I hope that helped, and I'm sorry about your situation. 300 00:17:20,424 --> 00:17:20,634 Yeah. 301 00:17:21,504 --> 00:17:23,004 Okay. Well, thank you for your comments. 302 00:17:23,049 --> 00:17:25,644 Again, everything's being taken into consideration, so- 303 00:17:26,035 --> 00:17:26,274 Okay 304 00:17:26,424 --> 00:17:30,879 ... we'll have someone else. Anybody else want to come forward and make comments, 305 00:17:30,954 --> 00:17:31,314 please? 306 00:17:40,824 --> 00:17:45,114 My name is Bob Jankowski. I own the property of 2044 Northline. 307 00:17:45,414 --> 00:17:46,194 I'm not- 308 00:17:46,374 --> 00:17:49,719 Bob, could you speak up? I am hard of hearing, and we don't have- 309 00:17:50,034 --> 00:17:51,234 Can you hear? I can't hear myself back there. 310 00:17:51,294 --> 00:17:51,953 That doesn't work. 311 00:17:51,984 --> 00:17:53,439 Yeah, my phone's are out the same way. 312 00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:54,054 Can't hear myself back there. 313 00:17:54,204 --> 00:17:54,429 Anyway. 314 00:17:54,429 --> 00:17:59,034 Anyway, I own the property of 2044 Northline. 315 00:17:59,289 --> 00:17:59,289 Right. 316 00:18:00,114 --> 00:18:05,034 In between those two buildings. And I'm not here for you to deny their claim to 317 00:18:05,214 --> 00:18:07,854 open a studio, and I think that's fine. 318 00:18:07,914 --> 00:18:13,614 But what I am here for is the attitude of when we have a situation with the 319 00:18:13,674 --> 00:18:15,354 parking, how it's handled. 320 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,524 Now, I'm in between both of those buildings. 321 00:18:20,484 --> 00:18:25,164 In order for them to get to their parking lot, they're going across my parking lot. 322 00:18:26,214 --> 00:18:27,594 Now they're going to go the other way 323 00:18:28,836 --> 00:18:33,066 A couple years ago, they plowed their snow, they put it all on my building. 324 00:18:33,756 --> 00:18:36,816 So I've been there since they started. 325 00:18:37,296 --> 00:18:42,006 I've went over there many times to talk to them. "There's somebody in my driveway. 326 00:18:42,036 --> 00:18:43,731 Would you have them get out?" They send them out. 327 00:18:44,706 --> 00:18:48,846 I've had women that I couldn't get into my building because I have 328 00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:51,966 a garage door in the front and a garage door in the back. 329 00:18:53,376 --> 00:18:57,336 They would say, "I'm waiting for my daughter." I'd say, "I have to get in. 330 00:18:57,606 --> 00:18:59,046 I'm only going to be here a minute." 331 00:19:00,636 --> 00:19:04,596 So I'm telling you right now, what I'm going to be doing in my parking lot is I'm 332 00:19:04,626 --> 00:19:05,526 going to be putting 333 00:19:06,816 --> 00:19:10,822 things out so they can't go across my parking lot, and that's just going to make 334 00:19:10,822 --> 00:19:13,926 that much more difficult for them. 335 00:19:15,876 --> 00:19:19,236 They have not been very responsive to any 336 00:19:20,856 --> 00:19:24,786 concerns that I have. They have not came over to me one time and talked to me about 337 00:19:24,846 --> 00:19:28,026 the parking. What can we do? How can we make it better? 338 00:19:28,086 --> 00:19:32,586 Not one time, ever, in probably as long as they've been there, which is probably 339 00:19:32,616 --> 00:19:33,666 15, 20 years. 340 00:19:36,396 --> 00:19:39,276 But I think it's a great thing. I think it's good for the kids, it's good for the 341 00:19:39,336 --> 00:19:42,366 community, but there's no parking there. 342 00:19:42,666 --> 00:19:42,876 Right. 343 00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:48,336 Now, if they would have picked a place like the drugstore on the corner of 344 00:19:49,536 --> 00:19:52,086 Northline and Jefferson, fine. 345 00:19:53,286 --> 00:19:56,076 Okay. Thank you. Anyone else want to come forward? 346 00:19:57,366 --> 00:19:58,086 Come on up. 347 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:02,301 Hello. 348 00:20:03,996 --> 00:20:05,376 State your name and address, please. 349 00:20:05,736 --> 00:20:07,461 My name is Eduardo Diaz. And 350 00:20:09,066 --> 00:20:14,526 my wife, she's the owner of In Focus Dance Center at 2034 Ford Avenue. 351 00:20:16,116 --> 00:20:20,496 It's just, rather than all those comments that they've made about 352 00:20:21,126 --> 00:20:26,947 issues among ourselves, there hasn't been any issues except for one that actually 353 00:20:26,976 --> 00:20:30,756 happened to be there. Now, they reported it to the police when one of the sons 354 00:20:30,816 --> 00:20:34,866 actually came into the building swearing at the 355 00:20:36,096 --> 00:20:40,746 moms. Ms. Lori happens to be our manager, secretary manager. 356 00:20:41,886 --> 00:20:42,096 She 357 00:20:43,866 --> 00:20:46,731 was in the middle of it, but he didn't know I was the husband, well, her husband, 358 00:20:46,806 --> 00:20:51,261 my wife, Yvonne Diaz. I just took the whole situation outdoors so they could 359 00:20:51,366 --> 00:20:51,935 deescalate, right? 360 00:20:52,731 --> 00:20:52,731 Mm-hmm. 361 00:20:52,776 --> 00:20:57,216 And he was a little bit of aggressive person, but like I told him, "We're not here 362 00:20:57,306 --> 00:21:01,056 for any of this. There's kids in there, there's all these parents. 363 00:21:01,176 --> 00:21:04,086 We don't need any of this. I want to go to your business and to respect your 364 00:21:05,406 --> 00:21:07,956 customers or your staff." So 365 00:21:09,456 --> 00:21:12,351 as time went by, obviously the police handled it. 366 00:21:12,426 --> 00:21:16,236 They actually came to the location. The snow, I handled the snow. 367 00:21:16,356 --> 00:21:18,786 I never put it on their side. I always put it on our wall. 368 00:21:20,106 --> 00:21:22,266 I'm the one that does it. I wouldn't wind up here. 369 00:21:22,551 --> 00:21:22,775 That's it. 370 00:21:23,376 --> 00:21:23,961 Second of all, 371 00:21:25,176 --> 00:21:25,836 as far as 372 00:21:27,426 --> 00:21:29,856 talking to one of their sons, I have spoken to one of their sons. 373 00:21:30,216 --> 00:21:34,626 He's actually a pretty nice guy. We just talked him out there and asked me how we 374 00:21:34,896 --> 00:21:39,486 resolve this issue. I suggested maybe put a no parking, because these are adults. 375 00:21:40,116 --> 00:21:41,466 There's only so much you can tell them. 376 00:21:43,116 --> 00:21:46,086 At the end of the day, I'm here only to take care of my wife's business. 377 00:21:46,356 --> 00:21:49,566 All the little kids know me. They're very pleasant kids. 378 00:21:49,656 --> 00:21:54,697 The parents, yeah, sure, we do have some moms that have issues and they're louder. 379 00:21:56,046 --> 00:22:00,846 And I suggested to him to maybe put a no parking. 380 00:22:00,891 --> 00:22:04,266 "Oh, well, that's not really something to go." That's the only option you have. 381 00:22:04,536 --> 00:22:09,576 You told them. Maybe at some point they'll understand that parking illegal is not a 382 00:22:10,506 --> 00:22:11,526 good idea. But 383 00:22:13,206 --> 00:22:15,456 I have no problem as 384 00:22:16,836 --> 00:22:21,636 the husband with them at all, except for one time, that was a bit. 385 00:22:22,236 --> 00:22:24,096 So I think we could get along just fine. 386 00:22:24,141 --> 00:22:25,011 It's just a matter of 387 00:22:26,406 --> 00:22:26,796 him, 388 00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:32,826 I don't know, having better communication, to an extent, obviously, because the 389 00:22:32,856 --> 00:22:37,146 police would have to get involved. And that's it. 390 00:22:38,346 --> 00:22:40,236 Okay. Thank you. Appreciate your comments. 391 00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:40,460 Thanks. Take care. 392 00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:43,626 All right. Anybody else want to come forward when we're talking about parking 393 00:22:43,716 --> 00:22:44,166 spaces? 394 00:22:47,376 --> 00:22:48,697 All right. Your name? 395 00:22:48,966 --> 00:22:53,526 Hi. My name's Ashley Dunbar, and this is Pariana Dunbar. 396 00:22:53,856 --> 00:22:55,026 We've been fortunate enough- 397 00:22:55,086 --> 00:22:55,386 Your address, please. 398 00:22:55,656 --> 00:22:55,971 I'm sorry? 399 00:22:56,046 --> 00:22:56,572 Your address. 400 00:22:56,826 --> 00:22:59,496 661 St. John's, Wyandotte, Michigan. 401 00:22:59,676 --> 00:22:59,916 Okay. 402 00:23:00,846 --> 00:23:05,526 We've been fortunate enough to belong to the dance community at In Focus for seven 403 00:23:05,586 --> 00:23:10,101 years now. And if we're fortunate enough, hopefully another seven years at the 404 00:23:10,206 --> 00:23:16,101 studio. And I myself would volunteer my time between those hours of 4:00 405 00:23:16,146 --> 00:23:21,876 PM and 8:00 PM as a parking lot admin to make sure that nobody's 406 00:23:22,506 --> 00:23:26,736 spaces, so that way these kids can continue to dance and have a safe space to do 407 00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:27,036 so. 408 00:23:28,296 --> 00:23:31,116 Great. Thank you for your comments. Appreciate it. Anybody else? 409 00:23:31,206 --> 00:23:32,046 May I ask a question? 410 00:23:32,136 --> 00:23:35,496 Welcome back, Harrison, for a minute. Thank you. 411 00:23:36,697 --> 00:23:39,156 So you don't get paid or anything? 412 00:23:39,486 --> 00:23:39,726 No. 413 00:23:40,566 --> 00:23:44,796 So you're a mom and you're a parking lot attendant? 414 00:23:46,296 --> 00:23:47,421 Whatever I can do for these kids- 415 00:23:47,437 --> 00:23:47,976 Volunteer 416 00:23:47,991 --> 00:23:48,380 ... I'm going to do it. 417 00:23:48,516 --> 00:23:51,636 Okay. You haven't been one, but you're volunteering. 418 00:23:51,666 --> 00:23:53,496 Oh, no, I have actually been one as well. 419 00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:53,540 Okay. 420 00:23:53,556 --> 00:23:56,676 We do ensure that nobody blocks the alleyway. 421 00:23:57,126 --> 00:24:02,076 We have a whole competition team of about 40 kids with about 30 parents in between 422 00:24:02,136 --> 00:24:04,146 them, and we have a chat amongst them. 423 00:24:04,236 --> 00:24:08,151 If there's anyone in that space, I've been one of the people that have gone down 424 00:24:08,166 --> 00:24:10,386 there and made sure that a parent will move their vehicle. 425 00:24:10,926 --> 00:24:12,126 And I'll continue to do so. 426 00:24:12,396 --> 00:24:16,206 From other people that we've heard, it appears that you have a couple people that 427 00:24:17,197 --> 00:24:19,596 park in front of driveways and put their cigarettes- 428 00:24:19,986 --> 00:24:21,576 Well, right now I'm not on the clock, but- 429 00:24:21,726 --> 00:24:22,086 Oh 430 00:24:22,101 --> 00:24:23,226 ... I'll be willing to do so. 431 00:24:24,816 --> 00:24:26,556 Okay. Good. Thank you. 432 00:24:26,646 --> 00:24:29,556 You're welcome. Thanks. All right, anybody else want to come forward? 433 00:24:30,966 --> 00:24:31,506 Come on up. 434 00:24:34,416 --> 00:24:36,066 All right. 435 00:24:36,216 --> 00:24:39,187 Good evening. My name's Dr. Jeff Dusek. 436 00:24:39,306 --> 00:24:45,126 I own the building at 2050 Ford Avenue, and that building, unfortunately, has been 437 00:24:45,216 --> 00:24:49,716 empty since 2008 when the great recession hit. 438 00:24:49,806 --> 00:24:53,796 And I'm also the owner of Lincoln Park Veterinary Hospital, and we just moved all 439 00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:56,016 our clientele. They wanted to come down there. 440 00:24:57,726 --> 00:25:02,856 Recently, I know the building was a little bit out of code, and right now we've 441 00:25:02,871 --> 00:25:07,086 taken down the signs. We're painting the front of it, painting the back of it, and 442 00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:12,306 fixing up the parking lot. However, the city of Wyandotte has asked us to do, so 443 00:25:12,366 --> 00:25:13,716 we're doing all those things. 444 00:25:15,846 --> 00:25:20,286 Jean, I've known you for a long time because she used to work down at the animal 445 00:25:20,346 --> 00:25:24,066 hospital for a long time. But have you ever talked to Yvonne about the problem? 446 00:25:24,426 --> 00:25:26,046 Have you ever gone down to the dance studio? 447 00:25:26,076 --> 00:25:27,697 In previous summers, I have. 448 00:25:27,756 --> 00:25:33,546 Okay. So back there listening, and I said if she knew it, I think she would talk to 449 00:25:33,576 --> 00:25:37,026 her parents about not parking in the 450 00:25:38,796 --> 00:25:43,266 alleyway, and so that's something she as an owner will, I think, deal with. 451 00:25:43,806 --> 00:25:48,336 I think putting up some signs that there's no parking in the alley will be helpful. 452 00:25:48,786 --> 00:25:54,756 But also, it's not really a retail strip, and so it's a dance 453 00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:56,916 studio. I don't consider that retail. 454 00:25:57,036 --> 00:25:59,707 I was sort of retail, but I'm selling the building. 455 00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:04,386 It'll be nice that the building will be used for a good purpose. 456 00:26:04,776 --> 00:26:10,596 But there are also, again, four parking spots that are in front of all 457 00:26:10,627 --> 00:26:16,177 those buildings. And so not being retail and people having to park there to go into 458 00:26:16,236 --> 00:26:21,336 a retail store, I think not that they should be necessarily concerned, but there 459 00:26:21,366 --> 00:26:26,796 are spaces for people to park, and it's indentation or whatever you want to call it 460 00:26:26,826 --> 00:26:31,656 for the parking. So I'm just hoping, I think it'd be a great place, like you said, 461 00:26:31,716 --> 00:26:36,411 for kids to go learn and helping maybe beautify that area a little bit in 462 00:26:36,576 --> 00:26:41,166 Wyandotte. I'm not a resident of Wyandotte or Downriver, but I think it'll help 463 00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:42,096 that area a lot. 464 00:26:43,296 --> 00:26:45,396 Okay. Thank you, Dr. Dusek. Appreciate it. 465 00:26:45,996 --> 00:26:46,716 Any questions? 466 00:26:47,181 --> 00:26:51,846 No. I think we're all set. Thank you. Anybody else want to speak? Come up now. 467 00:26:52,266 --> 00:26:56,196 Once we close the public portion, you won't be able to come up, so make your 468 00:26:56,377 --> 00:26:57,666 comments known if you want. 469 00:26:58,296 --> 00:26:59,616 I just have one comment. 470 00:26:59,677 --> 00:27:01,776 Okay. Come on up. 471 00:27:06,306 --> 00:27:08,317 My name is Rita McNally. 472 00:27:08,677 --> 00:27:08,976 Okay. 473 00:27:09,276 --> 00:27:11,586 I live at 1861 21st. 474 00:27:11,916 --> 00:27:12,156 Okay. 475 00:27:13,086 --> 00:27:18,937 And my concern is, and it's a county road, Northline is a county 476 00:27:19,026 --> 00:27:24,306 road, but the parking goes all the way really close to the corner. 477 00:27:24,966 --> 00:27:30,877 And when people are parked there all the way, if you're coming out from 21st onto 478 00:27:30,937 --> 00:27:33,877 Northline, you can't see any traffic. 479 00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:39,885 So far, I don't know that there's been any accidents, but every time I do that, I 480 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:44,280 think I should've done this. I should've gone down to 22nd to come out onto 481 00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:49,680 Northline. So it's just... Oh, no, there's just too many 482 00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:52,410 cars in that area right there. 483 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:52,890 Yeah. 484 00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:59,851 But I also wonder, now, the studio she has already is eight parking spaces. 485 00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:00,105 Mm-hmm. 486 00:28:00,105 --> 00:28:02,190 If she has another studio, 487 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,940 then she should have 12 there even. 488 00:28:06,450 --> 00:28:09,120 But if they have another studio, they should have 12 489 00:28:10,741 --> 00:28:11,730 for that building, right? 490 00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:13,605 Well, it's based on square footage. 491 00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:16,861 That's what the engineering department does, is they go in and calculate how many 492 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,325 they need first. 493 00:28:17,325 --> 00:28:20,040 Okay. But I just wondered if... Okay. 494 00:28:20,176 --> 00:28:20,176 Yeah. 495 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,650 So she's saying the total would be 12. 496 00:28:22,890 --> 00:28:23,130 Yes. 497 00:28:23,459 --> 00:28:23,700 But- 498 00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:25,140 Yes 499 00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:26,010 ... that would- 500 00:28:26,071 --> 00:28:27,991 Your problem is the same as my problem. 501 00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:28,620 Really? 502 00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:34,980 I live on 17th, and I get out north to Northline or Ford Road. 503 00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:40,560 The building is right on the property line right next to me. 504 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,190 I can't see anything coming there. Talk about pedestrians. 505 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:45,210 Pardon? 506 00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:50,310 Pedestrians. I can't see them. I could pull out, they could run into the side of my 507 00:28:50,370 --> 00:28:51,601 car. Now, 508 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:57,540 that's a zoning issue a long time ago of setbacks, 509 00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:03,571 and it's been 50 years, and all the buildings are set back now, so you can see. 510 00:29:05,851 --> 00:29:11,700 When they were first put up, there was no setbacks, but there wasn't this 511 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:12,450 many cars. 512 00:29:12,719 --> 00:29:12,900 Yeah. 513 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,910 Matter of fact, there weren't cars at all. 514 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,861 So it's like, and still on the other side of my street, I have the same thing. 515 00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:23,160 People park down the road. I can't tell if a car... 516 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,040 I got to wait, like 15 seconds to make sure a car is not coming, just because 517 00:29:29,071 --> 00:29:30,361 people park on the street. 518 00:29:31,801 --> 00:29:33,616 Once again, Wyandotte has- 519 00:29:33,645 --> 00:29:33,676 That's square footage 520 00:29:33,676 --> 00:29:36,780 ... a lot of parking issues, and we have more traffic than ever. 521 00:29:37,155 --> 00:29:37,380 Yep. 522 00:29:37,395 --> 00:29:43,260 And all I can say is that there are a lot of people that run the red light at 523 00:29:43,321 --> 00:29:44,940 17th and Ford Road. 524 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:47,250 A lot of people. 525 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,505 That's horrible. 526 00:29:47,505 --> 00:29:51,571 Matter of fact, every time I go there, I watch somebody run it red right in front 527 00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:56,520 of me. So we all have issues, but we aren't here 528 00:29:56,611 --> 00:29:58,890 to pick on those issues. 529 00:29:59,010 --> 00:29:59,430 Yeah. 530 00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:04,230 We're here looking that it appears that the dance studio's not going to increase- 531 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:04,590 No 532 00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:09,540 ... any students. So they do parking by square footage. 533 00:30:10,111 --> 00:30:11,040 So actually, 534 00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:15,361 in reality, it appears that they're adding four spaces- 535 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,470 Mm-hmm 536 00:30:16,486 --> 00:30:19,140 ... which is a plus. 537 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:23,851 Okay. And I know this county road thing is a county. 538 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:24,210 Yeah. 539 00:30:24,601 --> 00:30:24,690 Yeah. 540 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,330 But I thought I'd just mention about the total parking problem- 541 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:30,900 Yeah 542 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:31,741 ... in that area. 543 00:30:32,970 --> 00:30:33,120 Thank you. 544 00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:37,560 Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Anybody else? Come on up. 545 00:30:41,851 --> 00:30:45,241 Hi, I'm Carrie Martinez. I'm at 18510th. 546 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:51,119 My girls have danced at In Focus for longer than I can count. 547 00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:55,530 I have a senior this year, so she's entering her last year of dance. 548 00:30:56,220 --> 00:31:02,054 And, I just want to say, I really appreciate the comments that have been brought 549 00:31:02,611 --> 00:31:04,950 forward by the community. A lot of ideas. 550 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:09,960 When people come together, to solve a problem, a lot of great ideas come up. 551 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:10,560 And, 552 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:18,870 I would also just like to say that, yeah, every business has some people 553 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,690 who may not follow the rules. But I think if we put some of these ideas in place, 554 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:28,440 then we can address them. And I, 555 00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:35,310 you've heard about dance moms. When there is a problem, 556 00:31:35,821 --> 00:31:41,640 we are there to address it, and we are there to police our own, and, to make 557 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,970 sure that we are being respectful of the people around us. 558 00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:49,770 So, as far as the cigarette butts, that is absolutely disgusting. 559 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,690 So please take pictures and bring them to the studio, and we will take care of it. 560 00:31:54,810 --> 00:31:59,685 I'm telling you, if somebody's parked in front of your driveway, take pictures, 561 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,361 bring it to Yvonne, and we will take care of it. 562 00:32:03,465 --> 00:32:04,980 And I shouldn't be slacking like this. 563 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:07,920 We will take care of it in a respectful manner. 564 00:32:07,950 --> 00:32:11,280 But, I appreciate, 565 00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:14,220 Flaxen? Mr. Flaxen? 566 00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:14,551 Yeah. 567 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:18,930 Yes. I appreciate your comments, too, and your thought process around the fact 568 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,440 that... 569 00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:23,010 Hold on. I have to gather my thought. 570 00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:29,595 That the problems themselves that are currently in place are not 571 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,361 necessarily... It's not going to get worse with what we're doing, right? 572 00:32:35,101 --> 00:32:40,170 If we don't, if this zoning concern isn't 573 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:45,390 awarded or if the building isn't zoned for the dance studio. 574 00:32:46,290 --> 00:32:48,720 But we can make it better by 575 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,960 being a good community- 576 00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:52,394 Mm-hmm 577 00:32:52,394 --> 00:32:54,150 ... being a good neighbor, and 578 00:32:55,801 --> 00:32:59,010 yeah, just taking care of our own. So thank you. 579 00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:01,890 Great. Thank you for your comments. Anybody else? 580 00:33:04,321 --> 00:33:06,120 All right. Come on up. 581 00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:11,190 All right. Your name and address, please. 582 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,060 Hello, my name's Melissa Rooker. I live at 288 10th Wyandotte. 583 00:33:15,301 --> 00:33:19,200 My daughter is starting her 11th year at In Focus. 584 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,255 It's a great studio, and we really do have a great group of parents that are 585 00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:25,095 willing to help 586 00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:30,900 in any way possible, like Ashley said, policing it if we need it. 587 00:33:31,650 --> 00:33:33,750 I think the number one thing is just working together. 588 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:38,325 The new space, like I said, isn't bringing any more people. 589 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:42,495 It's just helping our dancers expand what they've been learning into a space that 590 00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:44,910 fits them as the competition team has grown. 591 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:49,230 When my dancer started, there was a much smaller competition team. 592 00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:53,805 And like Yvonne said, now that it's much bigger and they're doing more things, they 593 00:33:53,851 --> 00:33:59,310 need more space. As for the parking, it can be crazy back there just because people 594 00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:03,540 are coming and going, but I do think, for the most part, most of the people back 595 00:34:03,571 --> 00:34:08,940 there are very respectful. We try to police our own to the best that we can, but as 596 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:13,140 other people said, there's always going to be a bad apple in every bunch. 597 00:34:13,351 --> 00:34:19,230 But I think as a studio, we would do whatever we could to make this positive move 598 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:20,280 forward for our studio. 599 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:26,730 Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Anybody else? Come on up. 600 00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:28,995 Hi. 601 00:34:30,571 --> 00:34:30,585 Hi. 602 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:35,910 My name is Jessica Gomez. I live at 13672 Winter Southgate. I just have a comment. 603 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,400 As a homeowner, I understand it's frustrating with parking issues, but I would hate 604 00:34:41,415 --> 00:34:46,710 that parking wars get in the way of allowing these girls to thrive and grow into a 605 00:34:46,741 --> 00:34:49,620 bigger space. They're keeping our kids off the street. 606 00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:55,051 We've been part of In Focus for six years now. We love it. They do amazing. 607 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,380 So I would really hate that. And I think that this is an issue that can be resolved 608 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040 and not depriving them from being able to thrive. 609 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,524 Okay. Thank you. 610 00:35:06,524 --> 00:35:06,780 Thank you. 611 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:07,950 All right. 612 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:13,260 Okay. I just really wanted to quickly sum it up. 613 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:13,560 Yeah. 614 00:35:13,620 --> 00:35:16,110 Thank you to all the parents and dancers who came. 615 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,010 In terms of the parking, I was not aware of the neighborhood. 616 00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:23,491 I'd never heard from any of the neighbors regarding it. 617 00:35:23,851 --> 00:35:28,140 Dennis, who is directly behind the studio, we've talked many times, and we've never 618 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,415 had an issue. Regarding DRC cleaning, we have had several interactions. 619 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:37,680 To my knowledge, often I'm in the classroom with dancers, so I'm not in the lobby, 620 00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:43,935 but my office manager is out in the lobby, and as soon as any workers come over and 621 00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:47,580 said they're blocked, she runs out there and mitigates the situation, find out 622 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:51,090 whose car, and ask them to move. I really appreciate what you said about the 623 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:54,195 signage because that's something I've mentioned all along. 624 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:58,155 Put up a no parking sign that my husband mentioned. No parking will be towed. 625 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,880 Same thing with the alley. Because we do send emails to parents. 626 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:05,790 We have notices on the doors. Like I said, a lot of them are just dropping and 627 00:36:05,866 --> 00:36:08,070 picking up, so they don't come into the building. 628 00:36:08,101 --> 00:36:11,670 We put notes in there, but most people don't come in unless they're coming to make 629 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:16,140 a payment. So, and to finalize, we have been there. 630 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,700 This is our 18th season, and a lot of these kids have been with me their whole 631 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,660 time. But I have to say that if we aren't able to expand, we probably will be 632 00:36:24,721 --> 00:36:28,995 winding up because we need more space to keep up with the environment and the 633 00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:29,520 competition. 634 00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:30,719 Great. 635 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:31,140 Thank you. 636 00:36:31,155 --> 00:36:32,670 Do you guys have any questions from the board? 637 00:36:33,241 --> 00:36:38,430 The only thing I say is contact the police department, see if we can get that no 638 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:39,539 parking violation- 639 00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:40,005 Yeah, for sure 640 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:43,155 ... will be towed. That always puts people... 641 00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:47,340 You can put a handicap sign up, and people parking them all the time. 642 00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:47,910 Right 643 00:36:48,942 --> 00:36:52,362 But if you say, "No parking, violators will be towed," 644 00:36:54,192 --> 00:36:56,143 that strikes home. 645 00:36:56,456 --> 00:36:56,623 100%, yeah. 646 00:36:57,042 --> 00:36:59,772 Because you go out and all of a sudden your car is not there. 647 00:37:00,373 --> 00:37:03,792 Right. And one person tells everyone it happened, and then it doesn't happen. 648 00:37:03,807 --> 00:37:04,857 Right. Okay. 649 00:37:04,873 --> 00:37:05,922 Good idea. 650 00:37:06,942 --> 00:37:11,382 Okay. Thank you so much. All right, we've heard from the public, so we will close 651 00:37:11,412 --> 00:37:14,922 the public portion of this appeal and entertain a motion. 652 00:37:15,312 --> 00:37:16,871 I make a motion to approve. 653 00:37:17,082 --> 00:37:17,532 Okay. 654 00:37:18,552 --> 00:37:19,152 I support. 655 00:37:20,832 --> 00:37:21,192 Okay. 656 00:37:23,022 --> 00:37:24,552 Discussion, anybody on the board? 657 00:37:24,822 --> 00:37:29,832 The only discussion I have is it doesn't seem as bad as the Hatfields and McCoys, 658 00:37:30,852 --> 00:37:36,162 but I definitely think that communication is a way to resolve all problems. 659 00:37:36,851 --> 00:37:42,282 So I say communicate. If somebody's upset about something or somebody's concerned 660 00:37:42,342 --> 00:37:45,431 about something, try to address it together. 661 00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:48,522 So that's about the only comment I have. 662 00:37:49,018 --> 00:37:49,018 Okay. 663 00:37:49,032 --> 00:37:54,972 Is there something that we can do a recommendation to the police department 664 00:37:55,002 --> 00:37:59,772 or have engineering do a recommendation to the police department or DPW? 665 00:37:59,922 --> 00:38:04,662 Because who puts up the signs? It's the DPW that puts up the signs. 666 00:38:05,442 --> 00:38:05,532 Yeah. I 667 00:38:06,762 --> 00:38:11,547 know Jesus is coming up to talk on that, but the owner can always contact the 668 00:38:11,592 --> 00:38:12,432 police and- 669 00:38:12,492 --> 00:38:12,643 Right. Yeah 670 00:38:12,852 --> 00:38:15,522 ... the DPW directly. 671 00:38:15,822 --> 00:38:21,012 Based on the discussion and hearing everything regarding the alley, I can certainly 672 00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:25,962 send a request to the police department to review it and see what signage they'll 673 00:38:26,022 --> 00:38:29,143 allow. So I'll initiate that tomorrow morning. 674 00:38:29,382 --> 00:38:29,922 Okay. 675 00:38:29,982 --> 00:38:30,282 Thank you. 676 00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:31,272 I appreciate it. 677 00:38:31,332 --> 00:38:31,662 Thank you. 678 00:38:31,873 --> 00:38:34,377 You would take it. And then we'll just let him handle that, Dan. Thank you. 679 00:38:34,393 --> 00:38:34,602 Yes. 680 00:38:34,632 --> 00:38:35,922 It doesn't have to be part of the motion. 681 00:38:36,102 --> 00:38:36,342 Right. 682 00:38:36,612 --> 00:38:40,092 Okay, any other comments? All right, so we have a motion to approve Mr. 683 00:38:40,332 --> 00:38:44,352 Flaksam, seconded by Mr. Simchuk. Can you call roll, please? 684 00:38:44,562 --> 00:38:45,462 Member Duran? 685 00:38:45,552 --> 00:38:45,792 Yes. 686 00:38:45,912 --> 00:38:46,452 Flaxman? 687 00:38:46,512 --> 00:38:46,722 Yes. 688 00:38:46,902 --> 00:38:47,262 Gillan? 689 00:38:47,623 --> 00:38:47,802 Yes. 690 00:38:47,952 --> 00:38:48,402 Hammill? 691 00:38:48,462 --> 00:38:48,732 Yes. 692 00:38:48,882 --> 00:38:49,452 Simchuk? 693 00:38:49,512 --> 00:38:49,692 Yes. 694 00:38:50,262 --> 00:38:52,032 Okay, you're all set. 695 00:38:53,322 --> 00:38:57,672 All right, we're going to have the engineering department work with the police 696 00:38:57,702 --> 00:38:59,712 department on maybe putting up some signage. 697 00:38:59,802 --> 00:39:02,562 And so you'll be hearing from them here probably in the next couple of weeks. 698 00:39:03,282 --> 00:39:07,602 And so we'll work with them, and they'll make sure that everything's taken care of 699 00:39:07,632 --> 00:39:11,637 in the best way for the parents to have a place to drop kids off, pick them up, but 700 00:39:11,772 --> 00:39:14,472 not block the alley and cause a big bottleneck. Okay? 701 00:39:14,802 --> 00:39:17,472 Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it. 702 00:39:17,802 --> 00:39:18,222 Thank you. 703 00:39:19,393 --> 00:39:19,812 Thank you. Okay. 704 00:39:21,132 --> 00:39:24,732 All right. Is there any other business to discuss, please? No? 705 00:39:25,242 --> 00:39:30,312 And I apologize, I know we're not on recording, but Ian Hammill is a new member, so 706 00:39:30,373 --> 00:39:34,601 please welcome him. So welcome. He's taking over for Ted. 707 00:39:34,752 --> 00:39:37,902 Ted Winklot unfortunately had to resign due to some health concerns. 708 00:39:38,442 --> 00:39:42,312 And so we wish Ted the best, we wish him well in Illinois. 709 00:39:42,402 --> 00:39:46,002 And yeah, we've got Ian here to step in, so we're all set. 710 00:39:46,722 --> 00:39:50,832 Just whole complement of members. 711 00:39:50,982 --> 00:39:54,972 Our next meeting is Wednesday, October 7th. Guys, can you go outside? 712 00:39:55,152 --> 00:40:00,852 Hello. We're still in a meeting, so could you guys go outside in the hall, 713 00:40:01,182 --> 00:40:02,352 please? Thank you. 714 00:40:03,731 --> 00:40:08,352 Thanks. Okay, so our next meeting is October 7th, so hopefully you can all make it. 715 00:40:08,382 --> 00:40:11,682 If you can't, please let Julie know so we know we have a quorum ahead of time. 716 00:40:12,462 --> 00:40:16,272 And motion to place all communications on file? 717 00:40:16,482 --> 00:40:17,022 Yes. 718 00:40:17,202 --> 00:40:19,602 Support? Okay. Motion to adjourn. 719 00:40:20,202 --> 00:40:21,102 Motion to adjourn. 720 00:40:21,402 --> 00:40:24,552 Support by Mr. Simchuk. Thank you, everybody, for joining us, and God bless 721 00:40:24,582 --> 00:40:26,022 Wyndotte. We'll see you in October