[0:02] s [0:02] pretty funny how we as [0:04] Michiganders like. Just a call [0:08] to order for the Wyoming City [0:09] Council meeting on Monday, [0:13] September 21st, 2026. First [0:15] item of business invocation by [0:18] Rick Pulizzi from Grace [0:19] Christian University. If you're [0:21] wishing are able, please stand [0:23] for the invocation. Pledge of [0:25] allegiance will follow. Let us [0:29] pray. Heavenly father, thank [0:30] you on behalf of all who have [0:32] gathered here tonight. We thank [0:33] you for the gift of life and in [0:35] our community, the opportunity [0:37] to serve the people of our [0:39] great city. Help us to act with [0:41] character and conviction. Help [0:42] us to listen with understanding [0:44] and goodwill. Help us to speak [0:46] with charity and restraint and [0:49] to discern your will and work [0:51] to create a strong and healthy [0:53] community. Guide us to be the [0:55] leaders your people need. I do [0:57] pray for each person here, for [0:59] personal peace in their lives [1:00] and joy in their task. Give [1:02] each person clarity of mind, [1:05] creativity, compassion, due [1:07] diligence, and integrity in [1:09] what they are called to do. I [1:11] pray for our chief. I pray for [1:13] our mayor, for our city manager, [1:16] and the various levels of city [1:18] officials, and in particular [1:19] for this assembled council [1:21] tonight. I'm asking that you [1:22] would graciously grant them [1:24] wisdom to govern the [1:26] conflicting interests and [1:27] issues of our times. Give them [1:29] a sense of true welfare and [1:31] true needs of our people, and [1:32] for the confidence in what is [1:34] good and fitting a you pray for [1:37] the agenda set before them [1:38] tonight. Please give an [1:40] assurance of what would please [1:41] you and what would benefit [1:42] those who live and work in or [1:44] around and. Beloved city of [1:46] Wyoming. We ask this in Jesus [1:48] name. Amen. Amen. I pledge [1:53] allegiance to the flag of the [1:54] United States of America and to [1:57] the Republic for which it [1:59] stands. One nation under God, [2:02] indivisible, with liberty and [2:04] justice for all. All right, [2:14] let's take the roll call. [2:18] Council member. Arnold. Here. [2:20] Brethauer here. DeKryge here. [2:22] Hill here. Postema here. [2:25] Postler here. Mayor. Here. Oh! [2:32] All right. Okay. Approval of [2:34] minutes. You were sent the [2:37] September 8th, 2026 regular [2:39] meeting minutes. And you are [2:40] also given the closed session [2:44] minutes tonight when you [2:45] arrived. And also the minutes [2:48] from the September 14th, 2026 [2:50] work session were mailed out to [2:52] you, emailed out to you. So [2:53] unless there's reason to change [2:55] any of those, those will stand [2:58] as written tonight. Is there [2:59] any objection? Okay, those [3:02] minutes are approved as written. [3:04] Approval of agenda. Motion, [3:06] please. Motion by Hill. Support [3:09] by DeKryger. Anything to add, [3:11] Mr. Shea? No. No additions. [3:14] Let's call the roll. Council [3:15] member. Hill. Yes. DeKryger. [3:17] Yes or no? Yes. Brethauer. Yes. [3:20] Postema. Yes. Postler. Yes. [3:22] Mayor. Yes. We have no public [3:26] hearings tonight, so we're [3:27] going to move to public comment [3:29] on agenda items. This public [3:31] comment period is reserved for [3:33] comment on agenda items only. [3:35] If you wish to speak about an [3:36] item that is not on the agenda, [3:38] please wait until the end of [3:40] the meeting for acknowledgment [3:41] of visitors. It is important to [3:43] note this is not an opportunity [3:44] for dialog or debate. This is [3:47] an opportunity to provide [3:48] comment to the City Council [3:50] upon approaching the podium. [3:51] Please begin by providing your [3:52] name and address. There's a [3:54] three minute limit per person. [3:56] Anyone tonight on the agenda? [4:00] The agendas are on the back [4:01] table if you need one. Oh, I [4:04] thought, I thought Chief Snyder [4:06] was going to get up and come up [4:08] and make a comment. He he kind [4:10] of stood up from his chair [4:11] there. I thoht, you can come [4:13] anytime you want. Get your time. [4:14] You don't need a special time [4:16] on the agenda. Okay. Seeing [4:17] none, we're going to move on. [4:19] We have no presentations or [4:21] proclamations. We have no [4:22] petitions or communications. We [4:25] have no reports from city [4:27] officers. And we're not going [4:29] to spend any money tonight. We [4:30] have no budget amendments. So [4:31] we'll go to consent agenda. And [4:33] I need a motion. Motion by [4:35] Postema. Support by Postler. [4:37] Call the roll. Council member. [4:39] Postema. Yes. Postler. Yes. Yes. [4:42] Brethauer. Yes. DeKryger. Yes. [4:45] Hill. Yes. Mayor. Yes. [4:48] Resolution 14 B please. [4:50] Resolution B is to accept and [4:51] distribute grant funding [4:53] received from the Office of [4:54] Highway Safety Planning and [4:55] this resolution includes Budget [4:57] amendment number eight. Okay. [4:58] There's a budget amendment tied [5:00] to that one. Motion, please. [5:01] Motion by Bruckbauer. Support [5:03] by Postema. Mr. Shay, could you [5:05] read us a little bit of. Sure. [5:08] For the last several years, [5:10] we've received grant funding [5:11] from the Office of Highway [5:13] Safety Planning, and it pays [5:16] for over time that we an other [5:19] law enforcement agencies incur [5:21] to do stepped up enforcement of [5:23] distracted driving, speeding, [5:25] seatbelt usage, that type of [5:28] thing. The state sends all of [5:30] the grant money to us, and we [5:33] distribute some of that to [5:34] Grand Rapids, the sheriff's [5:35] office, Kentwood and Walker, [5:38] our share of that $106,000 [5:40] grant is about $21,500, and [5:44] that would pay about 270 hours [5:50] of overtime for our officers to [5:51] do that. Stepped up traffic [5:53] enforcement that would begin [5:54] this December. And then the [5:56] remaining 80,000 or so would be [6:00] distributed to those other law [6:02] enforcement agencies. Great. So [6:04] we we're going to use it for [6:05] overtime hours. That's our [6:07] portion. And the question I [6:09] have I forgot to ask you the [6:11] other day, how were we selected [6:13] to be the receiver of those [6:16] funds and the distributor? Why [6:18] do we get it and distributed? I [6:20] again, and to be honest with [6:21] you, I don't know. I don't I [6:23] know it's been this way for [6:24] several years, and I don't know [6:26] if there was just an agreement [6:27] back then that it was easy for [6:29] us to just collect the money on [6:31] behalf of everyone and [6:32] distribute it. But I don't know [6:35] what was the original [6:37] originator of that, to behonesto [6:39] think it's cause the the [6:41] powers that be at the state [6:42] level know that we do such a [6:45] great job and we have such high [6:47] integrity here that we're going [6:48] to make sure those funds get [6:49] distributed appropriately and [6:50] with no foul play. I'd like to [6:52] believe that's the reason, [6:53] because that's true. But let's [6:57] call the roll on that Council [6:58] member. Brethauer. Yes. Postema. [7:00] Yes. Yes. DeKryger. Yes. Yes. [7:04] Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Let's [7:06] go to 15 Award of Bids, [7:09] contracts, purchases and [7:10] renewal of bids and contracts. [7:13] C resolution C is to accept a [7:15] proposal for elevator [7:16] preventative maintenance. [7:18] Motion please. Motion by Hill, [7:20] supported by noise. Anything we [7:22] need to know? Is this a routine [7:24] yearly thing or. Well, we're [7:26] just finishing up actually a [7:28] five year agreement with Kone [7:30] Elevator. We haven't been [7:31] exactly satisfied with their [7:33] service in terms of maintaining [7:34] our elevators. They've had slow [7:37] response time. It's some [7:40] billing issues. It's been [7:42] actually a real struggle, [7:43] frankly, with elevator [7:45] maintenance. So were looking [7:48] to enter into a. And there are [7:49] only so many elevator companies [7:52] in this world. And so we're [7:54] looking to enter into a [7:56] ntract with Schindler [7:57] Elevator Company or corporation [7:59] for a three year term. It's [8:01] about 31,500 a year. And this [8:05] is for routine maintenance of [8:06] elevators throughout the city. [8:09] So any of our buildings that [8:10] have an elevator will come [8:11] under this. And they would they [8:14] have certain standards for [8:16] response time and then certain [8:19] repairs where the parts are [8:20] under, I think it's $1,000 of [8:22] parts is covered under the [8:23] maintenance agreement. Great. [8:25] And so we're hoping that we'll [8:27] have a much more effective [8:31] response and quicker response [8:32] from this company than we have [8:33] with our last company. Any [8:36] comments? Questions? I forgot [8:41] where are they located? Where's [8:43] what located the new company. [8:47] Are they here in Wyoming? I [8:49] know they're in either Wyoming [8:50] or Grand Rapids because I saw [8:52] them. I think I saw it on the [8:54] way to the airport. So I think [8:56] it's Grand Rapids, actually. [8:58] Okay. Grand Rapids, Grand [8:59] Rapids. Okay. Thank you. I like [9:02] the idea of switching when [9:04] we're not happy. And I love the [9:06] idea of a three year rather [9:08] than another five year, because [9:09] I thk the three year probably [9:10] gave us a better price than [9:12] just doing one year. But it [9:13] also gives us chance to check [9:15] this company out before we [9:16] maybe lock in long term. Let's [9:18] call the Roll Council member. [9:19] Hill. Yes. Yes. Brethauer. Yes. [9:23] DeKryger. Yes. Postema. Yes. [9:25] Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Let's [9:29] do 15 d please. Resolution D is [9:31] to adopt the Cy of Wyoming [9:33] 2026 through 2028 [9:36] Transportation Asset Management [9:37] Plan okay motion by DeKryger. [9:41] Support by analyst. Thank you [9:43] gentlemen. Council has seen [9:46] this before. This is our three [9:48] year transportation asset [9:49] management plan. It contains a [9:51] listing of all of our [9:53] transportation related assets [9:54] such as roads, bridges, [9:57] culverts and traffic signals. [9:59] So it has an inventory of those [10:01] what condition they're in. And [10:04] you know, our plan to maintain [10:06] those. This is we we are [10:09] required to renew this every [10:10] three years to make sure that [10:12] we're still eligible to receive [10:14] state and federal grant funding [10:16] for various road and bridge [10:19] projects. Okay. Any questions [10:21] for John or for Aaron? Are [10:24] there any unusual or unforeseen [10:28] findings as we went through [10:29] this from prior years or any [10:31] major changes from the prior [10:32] plan? I know, I mean, we had a, [10:35] you know, listing of all the [10:37] roads and we kind of know the [10:38] roads and they use a Paser [10:40] rating to determine, you know, [10:41] one through ten, ten being [10:43] brand new, one being awful. We [10:46] have our bridges inspected [10:48] every two years. So we know [10:50] what the conditions of those [10:52] are. And Aaron can correct me [10:56] if I'm wrong. I don't think our [10:57] traffic signals need too much [10:59] in terms of maintenance. So I [11:01] don't believe there were really [11:02] any surprises in there. But it [11:04] does just list out, again our [11:06] assets and our plan to fix them. [11:09] And we use a variety of funds. [11:12] Major street. Local street. [11:18] Yeah, primarily major and local [11:19] streets for street funding and [11:21] bridge fundi. So thank you. I [11:25] found the completeness of the [11:28] explanations very interting. [11:30] So and I learned some things. [11:32] So if you want to dig in, it's [11:37] big. Yeah. But it really helps. [11:40] Took a lot of work to get that [11:42] ready. Thank you for that. [11:43] Let's call the Roll Council [11:45] member. DeKryger. Yes. Yes. Yes. [11:47] Hill. Yes. Postema. Yes. [11:50] Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Let's [11:53] take 15, please. Resolution is [11:56] to award a bid for cul de sac [11:58] Snowplowing 2026 through 2029. [12:02] Another multi year proposal or [12:04] contract we're looking at here. [12:05] Motion please. Motion by [12:08] Postler. Support by Brethauer. [12:13] 6786. So we we have almost 500 [12:16] cul de sacs. Some of the cul de [12:18] sacs. The city does the snow [12:21] removal and many of them. We [12:22] ntract it out because there's [12:25] just too many for us to do. And [12:27] some of the cul de sacs are, [12:29] are small enough that our big [12:30] plows can't turn around in them. [12:33] So we went out to bids, and [12:35] we're looking to go with two [12:36] different contractors, [12:37] depending on which zone of the [12:39] city, the cost for the upcoming [12:43] winter would be about $137,000, [12:47] and that covers nine plowing [12:50] events. And then if we have a [12:52] lot of snow where we have to [12:53] plow the cul de sacs more than [12:55] nine times, there's a per event [12:57] or per plow cost for that. And [12:59] this would be a three year [13:01] contract. So given that it's a [13:03] three year contract, we're only [13:06] locked into the amount for the [13:08] first year, the 137, it'll [13:10] change. It goes up by. I [13:15] thought it said three. Okay. It [13:18] was Yeah. It's well it's a [13:21] 3% increase from last year. [13:22] Okay. Okay. Good. Any questions [13:27] for Johnr Aaron? And this is [13:30] this contract is for the next [13:32] three years. So it's not going [13:33] to go up in the next three [13:36] winters. Is it going to go up [13:38] 3% every winter? It was 3% [13:40] increase from last year. Is it [13:42] going up a little bit? But is. [13:51] Yeah, you'll see like with [13:53] Jack's lawn service for zone [13:56] one, it's 34,500. And the next [13:59] year it's 35,500. So it's going [14:03] up $1,000 for that one zone. It [14:04] will increase. That's 3%. Is [14:08] there any loophole in there? [14:11] Not a loophole, but that where [14:13] they can tack on a fuel [14:15] surcharge of things progressed [14:17] like they happen? No there's [14:19] nothing. So this is locked in [14:21] no matter what the cost of fuel [14:23] is. Okay. Yeah, you probably [14:24] should come up there so the mic [14:26] can pick you up for the TV. No, [14:28] there's no no fuel loophole in [14:29] this. It's structured with the [14:31] nine called the nine push [14:32] minimum. Because, you know, [14:34] when we look at our winters, we [14:35] plow cul de sacs. Whenever we [14:37] plow our local streets and we [14:38] average 7 or 8. So we add one [14:40] in there per year. So there's [14:41] enough of an incentive for a [14:43] company to buy their equipme [14:45] and have their staff all ready [14:46] to go and allow them [14:48] flexibility for fuel. All right. [14:49] Thank you. Any other questions [14:52] for Aaron while he's up there? [14:56] You. February. You'll have to [14:59] wait. Just I'm sorry. Just you [15:02] can ask Aaron after the meeting [15:04] or you can get up at public [15:05] comment and ask that question [15:06] and we'll answer it. Okay. [15:08] Let's call the roll then. [15:10] Council member Poser. Yes, [15:12] brother. Yes. Yes. DeKryger. [15:15] Yes. Yes. Postema. Yes. Mayor. [15:18] Yes. F please. Resolution F is [15:20] for award of bid of t [15:22] rquette Park redevelopment. [15:24] Okay. Motion, please. Motion by [15:26] post or by DeKryger. What you [15:32] got for us, Mark? Yeah. So this [15:34] has been a project long time in [15:36] coming. I was in our parks [15:38] master plan and we went out for [15:43] bids, received four complete [15:45] bids, and we're recommending [15:47] the low bid from Mraw [15:49] construction. So with the [15:51] contingencies, we're looking at [15:52] about a $2.2 million project at [15:55] Marquette Park. And they're [15:57] going to remove the existing [15:59] ball field They'll expand the [16:01] dog park. They'll put in new [16:03] shade shelters, a new restroom [16:05] building, additional parking [16:07] and lighting. They're also [16:10] going to put in some [16:13] non-motorized crushed stone [16:15] pathways and then do some [16:19] shoreline cleanup along Plaster [16:21] Creek as well. So this project [16:25] is within what we budgeted for [16:26] this project. This is phase one. [16:28] We're looking at future phases [16:30] in future years. And there is a [16:33] conceptual plan that's in the [16:35] agenda packet. So phase one [16:37] ere is on the east side of [16:39] that plan. Again when they're [16:42] talking about the sled hill, [16:44] the dog park, the nature trail, [16:45] the restroom buildings and the [16:47] and the parking. Any questions [16:51] for John or Aaron or Lens here [16:54] tonight to she can answer. I'll [16:57] just say this park was special [16:59] to me. My boys played soccer at [17:02] Marquette Park and my oldest [17:04] son, Matt, played baseball on [17:05] that baseball field there at [17:08] Marquette Park. So I know it [17:09] got a lot of use in the past [17:11] from local schools, both public [17:12] and private. Sorry to hear the [17:16] baseball fields being shut down, [17:19] but it was a beautiful map of [17:20] this in theacket. You should [17:22] have been able to review that [17:23] and see that. So unless there's [17:25] further questions, we'll call [17:26] the roll. Now we used we rented [17:33] out the soccer field for [17:36] Tri-unity. Are we going to [17:37] still do that? Not anymore. I [17:40] don't believe Glenn. Is anybody [17:41] are there much come up? Are [17:43] there any local schools using [17:45] the soccer field or thebaseballs [17:48] current school year, baseball [17:50] fields are out of commission [17:52] for that. I know of seven years. [17:53] Yes. It's not been used for at [17:55] least that long. The soccer [17:56] fields are used constantly by a [17:57] numb of organizations. We do [18:01] Potter's House, Trinity [18:02] Vanguard Charter, used by a lot [18:05] of different organizations, all [18:06] of our soccer fields, but also [18:08] Marquette. Yeah. Awesome. [18:11] Awesome. Great. That's awesome. [18:13] Thank you. Yeah, that's a [18:15] rental. It's a great deal for [18:17] the schools that can't afford [18:19] to build their own fields. We [18:21] treat them very well on that [18:23] and they treat us well. Returns. [18:25] So let's call the Roll Council [18:27] member. Postema. Yes. DeKryger. [18:29] Yes. Yes. Brethauer. Yes. Hill. [18:32] Yes. Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. [18:35] We have no ordinances. Any [18:37] informational material to [18:38] distribute tonight? Okay. [18:40] Acknowledgment of visitors. If [18:42] you'd like to comment on [18:43] anything that was not on the [18:45] agenda tonight, please come [18:46] forward. Give us your name and [18:48] address. We're approaching the [18:49] podium. There's three minutes. [18:51] Come on up. Okay, okay. So I'm [18:56] I'm. I live here in Wyoming, [18:59] and my question was about the [19:01] plowing, about the plowing. If [19:04] you got the 1st of February, [19:07] you used up all your plow trips. [19:08] You said you could you could do [19:10] them accordingly. Let's say you [19:11] had to use it five more times. [19:13] So I mean, that'd be a [19:15] substantial that'd be a third [19:16] more than what we're paying, [19:17] right? Because you only you're [19:18] only given how many how many [19:20] trips. Nine. Nine. Five. Nine [19:21] plows, nine events for the. I [19:26] live on a dead end street. My [19:28] my street doesn't get plowed [19:29] very well, I tell you that. [19:31] What street is it? What street? [19:33] I live on, Goodman. Okay, well, [19:36] we'll let you we'll let you. We [19:39] can't answer that question from [19:40] here, but that's fine. He's [19:41] going to answer that question I [19:42] just wanted good question. I [19:44] just want to pick your brain on. [19:46] Yeah. And I have one other [19:47] question. And that is about [19:50] hunting deer with a bow and [19:51] arrow and Kaufman Park. That's [19:54] that's my other question. [19:55] That's what I really came for [19:56] because there's a lot of deer [19:58] in that market. And of course, [20:00] all the way around, they're [20:01] getting hit by cars just [20:02] constantly the. So that'my [20:04] other qution. Okay, an answer [20:06] on it, but I, I want, I want a [20:08] discussion. Well, we'll answer [20:10] that question when we go around [20:12] the council. Okay. Okay. Thanks, [20:13] Ed. It might be good to. John. [20:21] Why don't you just give an [20:22] update for him and any others [20:25] who have a question about what, [20:26] like Metro six is doing and the [20:29] discussions that are going on [20:29] about the deer population thing. [20:31] It might be a good time to [20:32] update coming into fall. Well, [20:34] yeah. I mean, we'll have a [20:36] actually a nice update in two [20:38] days on that at the Metro six. [20:40] But having said that, there's a [20:41] deer management coalition [20:44] that's being organized by Kent [20:46] County. And so they do have a [20:48] website that contains a lot of [20:50] informion on a regional [20:53] effort within the county, not [20:54] just Wyoming, to manage the [20:57] deer population. And they're [21:00] trying to they're putting a [21:02] pilot program together to bring [21:07] together private landowners and [21:09] hunters that could hunt deer on [21:11] private property. With respectte [21:16] county, not the city. And if, [21:19] if if we were to. Allow hunting [21:24] in the city, we would have to [21:26] amend our current ordinance to [21:28] allow to allow that. So [21:30] currently, the ordinance does [21:32] not allow hunting within the [21:33] city limits. And if we get to [21:36] whether it's any of the [21:38] individual communities, whether [21:39] it's Wyoming or Grand Rapids or [21:41] Sparta or Kentwood, would have [21:44] to look at their individual [21:46] ordinances as to whether they [21:46] would want to amend those to [21:48] allow hunting within the city [21:51] and, and discuss the pros and [21:53] cons of that. Granville Walker [21:55] we've all been talking about it [21:56] for two years. So it's it's [21:59] being addressed. And I know [22:00] progress seems a little slow to [22:02] residents sometimes and think [22:04] it'd be a quicker decision, but [22:05] we're dealing with some pretty [22:06] big issues there and things of [22:09] that nature. So anybody else [22:10] under announcement of visitors? [22:12] Again, this is a public cment [22:14] period if you'd like to address [22:16] the council. Yeah. Right now at [22:22] the end. Yeah that's that's why [22:24] I repeated that. Yes. It's this [22:26] is public knowledge and [22:29] visitors public comment. I got [22:33] the sun glaring in myyes [22:35] right behind me. So I'm going [22:36] to move this move ahead this [22:38] way. So you block the sun for [22:39] me. Hey guys. I apologize for [22:41] my tardiness. I did not know [22:42] that the location shifted [22:44] around, so I should have [22:46] checked the location there. But [22:48] you guys know me. I'm Coco from [22:50] here in Wyoming, third Ward, [22:53] and I'm here to speak about the [22:55] illegal citizen surveillance [22:57] cameras. I did get my articles [23:00] in a little bit too late, but I [23:03] did send it to Miss Postler as [23:05] well as the attorney here last [23:08] night. Your portal doesn't [23:10] allow for URLs to my archive, [23:13] so I could not send them [23:15] directly. I did try to send it [23:18] directly, just finding it on [23:19] Google to the city clerk. So [23:22] hopefully he got at least the [23:24] URL to my archive of. And [23:27] there's a folder specifically [23:29] dedicated to the police abuse [23:31] of these illegal flock systems. [23:34] So again, I'll go over, you [23:35] know, how they are legal under [23:37] the Fourth Amendment, ratified [23:39] in 1791. I don't believe I [23:41] mentioned though about the [23:44] Shaqiri versus US case from [23:48] July 26th of 2026 that prevents [23:51] geofencing. And these cameras [23:54] around town do create a [23:56] geofence. They watch where you [23:58] go. They can tell where you've [24:01] been on top of you know the [24:03] other things. And I got the I [24:07] got the flock contract, and [24:08] I've shared it with a bunch of [24:10] folks. And I only saw two kinds [24:14] of flock cameras listed that [24:15] had been ordered. The Falcon [24:17] and the Falcon Flex. There was [24:21] no mention of the mobile [24:22] trailers in that contract. [24:24] There was no mention of the [24:26] cameras that were installed [24:28] into the police squad car [24:30] vehicles. So I don't know if I [24:32] don't think those would be [24:34] called Falcons. Even looking at [24:35] flock site, it's hard to get a [24:38] list of what's, you know, [24:39] actually on there and what it's [24:41] called. So I don't know if some [24:43] information was omitted from my [24:45] contract, the contracts I [24:47] received, but that would be [24:48] something of note. I would like [24:50] to know, you know, what those [24:51] models are called or iany [24:53] information had been hidden [24:54] there. So yeah, it's not a [24:59] conspiracy theory, Mr. Mayor. I [25:01] mean, we have the documentation [25:03] and I will forward it when I [25:05] get some responses back from [25:06] Miss Postler and the attorney. [25:08] And hopefully the city clerk [25:10] already has that archive of [25:12] information. I mean, it is [25:15] creating a surveillance ste. [25:17] It is illegal under the Fourth [25:19] Amendment. And again, there's [25:21] Supreme Supreme Court [25:24] precedents from July 26th of [25:26] this year. So, I mean, there's [25:30] a lot there showing how illegal [25:31] these are. Just because [25:33] everyone else is doing it [25:35] doesn't mean that we have to do [25:36] it. Thank you. Thank you for [25:37] your time. Yeah. I wonder where [25:42] the. Anybody else tonight under [25:48] acknowledgment of visitors [25:50] public comment. Okay. Seeing [25:56] none we're going to go around [25:58] the council and then we'll [25:59] adjourn if there's no other [26:00] business. So let's start at [26:02] this side with Mr. Postman. [26:03] Yeah, I ironically, there's one [26:05] less deer in Wyoming tonight. [26:07] One got hit in front of my [26:11] office today, so. Oh, well, it [26:13] does continue to be a problem. [26:15] I'll be interested to see what [26:17] John comes next week, what the [26:20] progress is there. I think all [26:22] the squad car cameras are on [26:26] not Fox. So that's all I. Okay, [26:30] I was going to mention the [26:31] Exxon. Also, I did speak with [26:34] the city manager before the [26:36] meeting tonight. I know there's [26:38] a lotf people that have been [26:39] asking about the AT&T boxes, so [26:41] we should get some more [26:42] information on that after the [26:43] Metro six, and then we'll pass [26:45] that along. Thank you for [26:47] sending those links that I, [26:49] like I said, did not get those [26:51] until I guess I did not know [26:53] that they were waiting for me [26:54] from last night. Last time I [26:56] checked my email I had not seen [26:57] anything, so I was actually [26:59] going to ask for aupdate if [27:00] we had seen anything. So I will [27:02] be excited to look at that. And [27:04] things like that. But I can [27:05] reply to your email and then [27:07] you'll be able to send me [27:08] whatever. Perfect. Thanks. [27:10] We'll discuss it after. Mr. I [27:14] just want to thank Wktv for [27:17] doing another great job tonight. [27:19] There's a lot of work. Connor, [27:20] thank you for all of your [27:21] effort. And also thank you to [27:23] the Parks and Rec staff for [27:26] hosting us today. Thank you [27:28] very much. You just stole [27:31] everything I was going to say. [27:33] So yeah, thanks. But these do [27:36] take a lot of work and it's, [27:38] it's, it's great to be on the [27:40] road. But we do understand that [27:41] there's a lot of people that [27:43] put a lot of effort into this. [27:44] So thank you for that. [27:46] Councilmember Hill. Yes, there [27:47] was, as you all know, there was [27:49] a shooting in the trailer park [27:52] Park at 2 a.m. last week. And [27:58] we can probably use the flock [28:00] cameras to get that vehicle, [28:05] which is very nice because [28:08] there was a serious injury from [28:11] that shooting. I went to a deer [28:15] connection meeting last week [28:17] with with the county. Very [28:20] interesting. We have 2000 [28:25] hunters interested in hunting [28:29] in Kent County. We're just [28:31] having problems with the [28:33] landowners accepting these [28:35] nters. And it's a it's a [28:36] great program. It's a [28:38] collaborative between the [28:40] landowners and the hunters. The [28:42] landowners can kind of set the [28:47] stipulations for the hunters, [28:49] and it's going to be be very [28:51] good. But landowners are just [28:53] having a difficult time with. [29:01] Cooperating with the hunters. [29:02] We are no longer number one in [29:05] Cartier accidents. We pawn that [29:07] over to Oakland County. Last [29:10] year. We as Kent County. Kent [29:12] County, yes. So they get the [29:14] number one trophy for that now. [29:20] There has to be a minimum of [29:22] five acres in order to hunt in [29:24] Wyoming or in Kent County. So [29:26] that's kind of interesting to [29:28] know. They can donate the extra [29:30] venison they get to local [29:33] entities. Hunters in the land, [29:37] owners signed an agreement [29:39] between each other, which is [29:42] super good. So they're working [29:45] on they're working on, on these [29:49] issues. Kent County is the only [29:54] state in the onlyouy in the [29:56] state involved with this. It's [29:57] kind of a pilot program, and [30:00] relationship is the key. Crop [30:03] damage permits, of course, [30:05] significant increase in this [30:07] year. Meridian Township does an [30:16] urban program, which I think we [30:19] could learn a lot from what the [30:21] Meridian is doing to make this [30:23] a success. What was discussed [30:28] to is if these deer really [30:32] continue to be a problem, [30:33] there's a lot of problems with. [30:36] There was three deaths of [30:38] people in the Kent County this [30:39] past year. The disease of the [30:41] of the deer. Lyme disease in a [30:45] deer in East Lansing. It's [30:48] management versus hunting. And [30:50] we need to manage this now, or [30:53] it can cost a quarter of $1 [30:57] million to every city to bring [31:01] sharpshooters into the into the [31:03] every city to manage these deer. [31:09] There's not enough food in the [31:12] county for all of these deers, [31:15] for the deer. And I would like [31:18] to ask Grand Valley for a [31:21] browse survey from their [31:23] biologists. I think they'd be [31:24] super interesting. That's [31:25] probably the reason why they [31:27] are eating all of our gardens, [31:29] because there's not enough. [31:32] There's not enough food in the [31:33] parks for them, and they want. [31:36] The Grand Valley State [31:38] biologists will provide these [31:39] studies. Farm Bureau of Kent [31:41] County is for this, and I have [31:44] emailed the entitiest be. In [31:47] order to have more of a [31:49] discussion of what we actually [31:51] have to do, there's a process [31:54] to to get this done. Kent [31:59] County picked up 4500 deer, but [32:02] these were the only deer in the [32:04] side of the road and in the [32:06] ditches. Who knows how many [32:08] more wer hit in and went off [32:10] into the fields that Kent [32:12] County will not get for those. [32:16] So I thought it was a super [32:18] interesting meeting, a lot of [32:20] good information, and I've been [32:22] a proponent of this for the [32:24] last four years. I've been o [32:27] the county or on the City [32:30] commission and council member [32:31] at large, and I would like to [32:34] see this to continue. So thank [32:38] you. Editor. I'm at editor at [32:39] the meeting, and I'm so [32:42] thankful he came to to help [32:44] address this issue. So that's a [32:46] lot. Who sponsored ts meeting? [32:50] The Kent County Deer Management [32:54] Coalition. So I thought, oh, I [32:59] know, I toolots of notes. It [33:00] was a great meeting and I've [33:03] got the DNR. I've got folks [33:07] resident deer expert. Right. I [33:08] think so too, because I'm sick [33:10] of it. All my plants, I walked [33:12] in, I was in the park. It was [33:14] funny. It was the morning after [33:16] the shooting. I saw ten huge [33:19] bucks in the park when I [33:22] when I walk every morning, I'm [33:24] like, I just kept seeing them [33:26] one after another after another. [33:28] Plus, there's triplets in [33:30] Palmer Park, which is county [33:31] owned. Yep. Which is county [33:33] owned. So there's definitely a [33:36] room for improvement. So yeah, [33:39] well, this is our last couil [33:40] meeting on the road for 2026. [33:43] We have met in July, August and [33:45] now September. So in October I [33:48] think it's the fifth. We're [33:49] back at City Hall and we'll [33:51] look forward to seeing you [33:53] there. I have two things [33:54] tonight. Fire and Safety night [33:56] is on October 6th from 5 to 730. [34:00] And that is. When there's free [34:04] giveaways, live demos from the [34:06] Wyoming police and fire [34:07] departments, visit with [34:09] firefighters and officers, see [34:10] equipment and more. And there's [34:12] food trucks will be available [34:14] that night as well. And then [34:16] the drive u window [34:17] construction at City Hall. Just [34:19] a reminder that that is [34:21] happening and the drive up will [34:24] be closed through October. [34:25] Until that's completed, [34:26] payments can still be made to [34:28] the Treasurer's office inside, [34:31] placed in the drop box behindCid [34:34] electronically online. So [34:37] things are going to really [34:37] start getting interesting here [34:39] in the fall. We have a lot of [34:40] stuff that's going to be [34:42] happening in Oober, probably [34:43] including some events right [34:44] here that you'll be excited to [34:46] hear about. I want to be [34:47] partaking. So with that, ladies [34:50] Adjournme. I forgot to