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It is.

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» It's only 3 minutes off.

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» Better than mine. Mine's 15.

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» My other one,

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my old phone used to say it was 15

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minutes fast. My new phone says that

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today is

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» September 1st.

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» Yeah. Like to welcome him everyone in

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the audience for today's uh budget

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meeting and on uh August 28th 11

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o'clock. Uh I'd appreciate it if we

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would uh stand and

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help me with the pledge of allegiance.

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assistant.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all

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» Again. Welcome you all for budget

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meeting.

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I'm getting printing the rest of them.

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» Okay.

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» Um at this time I would uh

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» Ask Patty

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» Ask Patty to take role. Please

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» Turn to microphone.

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» Dan,

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» He's over there yapping but he's not

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here.

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» Are you here

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» Dan?

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Don

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» Here.

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» Wanda.

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» Yes.

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» Ryan.

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John

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» Here.

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Any conflicts of interest by any of the

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board members?

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» I do not.

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» I do not.

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» I do not.

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» I do not.

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» I I would move approval of the agenda.

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» I'd like to add something if I would

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please. Um, last night at the meeting,

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uh, what was mentioned multiple times is

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we need to have a clear direction of

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where dollars are being spent for the

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road and bridge levy. I just like to

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take a few minutes and get the

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get the opinion of the commissioners

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that are here and then put something on

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the next meeting for action.

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» I suggest that we put it on for the next

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meeting and not just randomly insert

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things after we take roll call. Um what

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why I talked to the chairman before the

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meeting started. Here's uh I don't think

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it'll take very long and then second if

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we wait till the next meeting to get

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direction then it'll be the next meeting

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after that before we take action and

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early voting I think starts next month.

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So I I think the sooner we get a plan

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for the citizens, a transparent plan on

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if this does pass where the dollars are

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going, the better. So just a brief

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discussion I I think is is not too much

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to ask. So

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» So where do you want to add that on?

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» We can do it at the end

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» Before public comment. 5A if that would

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work for you, Mr. Chair.

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» 5A prior to our last public comment.

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And I'd make a motion to approve the

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agenda with the change of uh levy

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discussion

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and not taking any action but just

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getting the direction of the commission.

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Get a second.

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» I'll second it.

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» Motion by Dan, second by Don.

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Any further discussion?

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Hearing none. All in favor? I. I. I.

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» Oppose. Nay. Motion carries.

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Now's the time for public comment.

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Public comment is a time for persons to

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address this body on any subject. No

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action may be taken on a matter raised

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under this item of the agenda until the

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matter itself has been specifically

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included on an agenda as an item upon

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which action will be taken. Each person

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has up to three minutes to speak. There

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shall be no personal attacks against the

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members of this body, county staff,

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individual, or organizations. The chair

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has the authority to enforce this

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policy. Failure to adhere to these rules

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may result in forfeite of the remaining

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speaking time. Per county policy, the

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Yankton County Commissioners will not

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engage in conversation or make

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statements during public comment.

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Anyone wish to come up and speak?

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Nancy and Andy. Whoa, that is loud. Y

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Thrive. Um, I was able to find find your

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2027 provisional budget on the website

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and I've made this request in the past

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as you are looking for more engagement

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from the community in the budgeting

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process to have more of the materials

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available in advance. So, we as the

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public can follow along rather than just

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see the completed project um product

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work product that you create. The city

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does a really good job of having all of

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those work documents available online.

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so the public can view them while the

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budget is being worked on. And I would

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just like to ask for that to be

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considered in the future. Thank you.

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» Okay.

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Anyone else wish to speak at public

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comment?

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Seeing none, public comment is closed.

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Like Patty is still making some copies

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for us.

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Maybe, you know, we don't Brian,

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» Did you want to speak for a few minutes?

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» Thank you, Mr. Chairman and

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commissioners. Yeah, I just wanted to

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offer my thoughts as a department head

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on the uh provisional budget as adopted

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last week. I did compare it line by line

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with our current year 2026 budget and

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just wanted to uh uh make some

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notations. As you know the provisional

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budget as approved last week was uh

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14,257,000

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for the general fund and 5,862,000

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for the road and bridge fund. That

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general fund actually is 227,188

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less than our current year 2026 general

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fund budget. So that's uh significant

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anytime you can come in less. The road

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and bridge fund is 321,000 more than the

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2026 road and bridge fund of uh 5.5

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million. Now you take those two major

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county funds and that's really the bulk

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of our spending of course. You take

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those two major county funds, you add

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them up, and for 2027 as adopted last

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week, we're currently at 20,119,000

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as compared to those two funds totaled

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20,25,000

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in 2026. So you're looking at an overall

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combined net increase of uh 94,000,

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which is less than 1/2 of 1%. And I just

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thought that was noteworthy. considering

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uh department heads had to fit a 2.5%

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cost of living increase and a uh

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estimated 11% health insurance premium

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increase into their budget math. So,

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it's uh pretty good achievement. We had

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some departments such as the state's

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attorney actually came in notably lower

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than 2026 and we had several others that

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came in with budget increases of less

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than 4%.

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We did have five budgets that are

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currently uh provisionally adopted at 5%

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or more higher than 2026.

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And I only bring these up because I know

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there are some commissioners that would

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still uh like to consider additional

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cuts. But so as of right now, the five

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budgets we have that are proposed to be

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5% or more higher are government

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buildings, which is 57,000 higher, 24%

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increase. Judicial system is 90,000

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higher, which is a 16% increase, and I

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think that's a reflection of the

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courtappointed attorney bills we're

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seeing every month. Road and bridge is

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321,000 higher, which is a 5.8%

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increase. Ambulance is 82,800

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higher, a 5.7% increase. And data is

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currently uh 10,000 higher, which would

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be a 5% increase. Other thing I would

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note is uh cash applied, which is, you

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know, unspent 2026 that we earmark for

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the coming year budget. Right now, as uh

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the last I heard from Patty, that is 2.3

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million. And I just want to note that

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would be the lowest amount of cash

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applied in a Yankton County budget in

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the last eight years and 1.1 million

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less than last year. All other cash

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applied amounts over that time exceeded

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3 million. Just wanted to share those

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thoughts and appreciate the time. Thank

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you.

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» Yeah, Brian, I got a question for you.

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you know, with the IT data, I think we

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all agree we got to we got to make some

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upgrades and anything, but from what I'm

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seeing, you know, is that budget u it's

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over 200 or between 200 and 300,000 and

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not all that long ago. I think it was

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less than 50. And I just think that's

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something that we have as commissioners

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have to keep an eye on. I know I know

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it's important, but it's like the roads

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and bridges. You don't get there in one

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year. It takes time. So, we really need

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to pay attention to that budget and how

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fast it's increasing. I think when Craig

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Miller did it, it was 42,000 and now

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we're are we 250,000 and

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» The budget for this year is 190,000, but

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we're going to go well over that.

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» And u next year he's currently got it at

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» And that's just an estimate I put in

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there.

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» Yeah.

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» But he mentioned that figure, didn't he?

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» Yeah. Yeah.

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» Thank you.

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» Thanks, Brian. appreciate you doing

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that.

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» Where do we want to start, Mr. Chairman?

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» Well, I think we left our last meeting

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at looking at um the highway department

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budget and then also

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which other one was it that we were

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still going to look at for sure.

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» Well, I think we should This is an easy

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one. We should skip to the buildings

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uh whatever it's called the government

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center and the safety center building

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projections. The

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supervisor has put in his budget 12,380

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for the veterans memorial

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revitalization.

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Uh, apparently he's already done that

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this year to the tune of $14,000

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because he had excess money. So, we need

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to take that 12,380

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out of his budget. We also need to uh

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figure out he has put projected costs

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for addressing the multiple safety

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issues with the c crumbling concrete

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walkways at the government center. I

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would like to know where those are

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because I'm at the government center

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three days a week and I don't see it.

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» There is one spot right over here on the

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sidewalk.

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» Okay.

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» And this over here, this entrance over

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here that the

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» The lip

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» It's on.

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» Okay.

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And plus, uh, the renovation to this

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should go into that the, um, county

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building fund, not not the safety center

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or the

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» Well, it's in the government center

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safety center budget. But it they're

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going to do stuff to the to buildings or

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any kind of um

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um anything you do to the buildings will

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come out of that two. It's a special

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fund that that we levy for. I I get

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that. What I'm saying is he's already

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spent 14,000. We can take 12,000 out of

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next year's budget because he did it

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already.

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That should be an easy $12,000 cut.

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out of I didn't print

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» And his pages aren't numbered. So

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» I mean

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» Coming out of the out of the government

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centers.

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» I I agree with what everything Wanda is

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saying. I would also say though the jail

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and this building are also 20 years old

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and um we had a $120,000 chiller go out

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unexpectedly two years ago.

300
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» I think we've replaced

301
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a couple water heaters over at the jail

302
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that were

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» Eight or 12,000 each.

304
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» I don't know. He's already got roof

305
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repair, duct cleaning,

306
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» Um, and

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» Updating those things in his budget.

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These are other things that he just

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» Randomly sought is seeking approval for

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that he can

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» Spend money on.

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» Gary, did you review this with with him?

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Um, and is there justification we're not

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seeing for the increase or you know? No,

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I think I think you're right that yeah,

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the plan was to do it next year and then

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there's

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» A lot of complaints. So So did this

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year.

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» I'm I'm fine with taking the 12,000.

321
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» Where where is that at? On which line

322
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item?

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» It's in his book,

324
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,000
» But where?

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» I guess I don't know where he hides it

326
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in there.

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I would guess it would be under repairs

328
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and maintenance maybe.

329
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» And plus anyway, that shouldn't come out

330
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of his budget.

331
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» I mean, it should be somewhere else.

332
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:58,800
» Yeah, it's out of that um

333
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» Well, it should be out of his and then

334
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what you're saying is

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» It's out of the guilt.

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» It will be taken out of that government

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building

338
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» And then it should be taken out of

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wherever else it is because he's already

340
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done it. See, and I and I put that in

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there because that's what you guys have

342
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,119
been putting in there is 90,000. So

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that's what I did. Now you can change

344
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that or lower that by that or

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» If that's a separate levy, I would I

346
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,079
think that maybe we just keep it as it

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is

348
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whether rather than reduce it

349
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and that's because that that's something

350
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that the citizens approved to go to

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build. I mean it to me then that we only

352
00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:45,079
take more out of the general fund when

353
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stuff pops up. But that's my thought. So

354
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:54,839
but I agree with you Wanda on uh um the

355
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other points you made.

356
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:07,440
So what what do we actually draw then

357
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for the levy if it if that if that fund

358
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is

359
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» Is levied it's not $90,000 that we get

360
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,520
in taxes.

361
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,599
» Yes.

362
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,200
» That's the exact number that we get.

363
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,079
» So by us reducing

364
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» When you get

365
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» So your levy is adjusted

366
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:24,640
» Rounding it's usually about 30 or

367
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» Okay

368
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,040
» 27 or something. So, I mean, if we

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reduced that and then had another bill,

370
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,920
then all we're going to do is take more

371
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,319
out of the general fund.

372
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160
» Yes.

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» So, I that's why I wouldn't touch that

374
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160
one.

375
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,720
» Um, judicial system, I don't think I I

376
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,880
get I don't like it's higher, but that's

377
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something we have no control over. And

378
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,839
is that the one we go over on almost

379
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every year, Patty and Yes. and Tyler? I

380
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:57,200
mean, so it's how many murders are we

381
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,200
going to have this year? How many

382
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,920
trials? None of us know. It's our best

383
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,640
guess and we go as low as we can and we

384
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,079
usually go higher than that. So I I

385
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,599
don't think as much as I don't like

386
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that, I don't think there's anything we

387
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,079
can do about it.

388
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» And that's

389
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,359
» For for roads and bridges. I mean, that

390
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maybe is the one area unfortunately that

391
00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:19,839
we do have control over. And

392
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» 130

393
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:24,400
» Our our CPI and growth is is at 3.4. 4.

394
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Is that correct

395
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,319
» On the first page?

396
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:29,040
» 3.4.

397
00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:32,160
» 3.4. Maybe that's what we do with our

398
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,880
road and bridge. Instead of a 5.8%

399
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:39,000
increase, we allow it to increase by

400
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,000
every other budget to 3.4.

401
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:47,119
You know, it

402
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,440
at least then it's it's going up the

403
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:52,400
same rate as taxes instead of exceeding

404
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,839
that. I don't know. What do you think?

405
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,240
» Thank you. My thought would be that if

406
00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:58,240
you do that, maybe you could say that if

407
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,720
the levy is successful, we could restore

408
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,880
it.

409
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,359
» Yeah, I think that's a great example

410
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,880
because

411
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:05,200
» You think we could drop,000.

412
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,520
» We did last night have people

413
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,760
» At the meeting say that

414
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,760
» We should just start abandoning roads

415
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,319
and if that's what people want,

416
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,040
» You know,

417
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:14,319
» Then

418
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,839
» Well, if they don't want to pay for

419
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:16,480
them, we're not going to have a lot of

420
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:20,000
options.

421
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,000
» Yeah. Exactly. is we we can't and we all

422
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,200
something we all need to realize is we

423
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:29,119
can't keep subsidizing the road and

424
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:31,680
bridge funding at the level we have been

425
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:34,720
um it's not sustainable. And so what

426
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,680
would that be if we did we did a does

427
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:39,520
anybody have that number? We did a 3.4%

428
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:44,520
increase on road and bridge instead of

429
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,520
the 5.8. what that would be.

430
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,240
I guess that would be my proposal. Then

431
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:56,400
instead of it increasing at 5.8,

432
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,800
we just do it at the rate that

433
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,520
everything else is going to 3.4 and that

434
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,319
would that would be another $100,000 in

435
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,640
savings. And

436
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,240
yes,

437
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,880
» Would you what line item do you want to

438
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,960
take it out of then?

439
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,200
What would you recommend, Betty?

440
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,720
» I I think that

441
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,240
» I don't know that she's recommending

442
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:19,359
anything.

443
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:21,920
» I you know that's a mic. I mean

444
00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:26,839
» Maybe I mean maybe annual projects.

445
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,839
That's one of the bigger ones or

446
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:37,040
because I mean we're all in greens,

447
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:39,280
right? We we can't keep transferring

448
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,359
large amounts of money from the general

449
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,319
fund to the IRA. It's unsustainable.

450
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:48,240
It's not going to happen. Um what we can

451
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:52,160
probably do is have that budget grow at

452
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:57,720
the same rate as our taxes grow.

453
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,720
That that's probably sustainable. I mean

454
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,440
» I'd say yeah I would say

455
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,720
» 100,000 about right

456
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,720
» About 120

457
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,720
» 120.8

458
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,359
» And and yeah maybe if if

459
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,440
» 5.8 eight to what

460
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:23,440
» If you instead of increasing the

461
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,920
» Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But so it'

462
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000
be

463
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,560
» Think about 120 of that 3.

464
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,560
» So it' be 5742 somewhere in that I'm

465
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,240
assuming

466
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,640
» And and yeah, maybe maybe that's

467
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,960
something we want we want to do is and

468
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,680
if the road and bridge levy passes, we

469
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,280
can restore that. But the feedback at

470
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,200
least we're getting from some people is

471
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,680
they they don't want to put money into

472
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,960
» I don't think we can restore that. I

473
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:51,200
think we have to according to the

474
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,960
resolution. We have to pick a project

475
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,359
and go with it.

476
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920
» I

477
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:58,160
» Not just go, "Oh, let's throw it in the

478
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,960
» Highway." But

479
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,200
» Was everybody

480
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,119
» I think I think we I visited with Mike

481
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,760
some and I think we can do that.

482
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:06,960
» Okay.

483
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,319
» Um you know, we're just going to have to

484
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,240
» Going to have to watch when the when all

485
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:10,800
the bills come in for the Stone Church

486
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,119
bridge.

487
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,880
» Yeah.

488
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,480
» Because they got to be paid, too. So,

489
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:19,119
and and that's coming out of this number

490
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:22,240
» And and you know, maybe we we'd look at

491
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:25,440
I mean, is it possible to pause pause

492
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:27,440
some construction on that bridge for a

493
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400
while? I mean, I hate to do that, but

494
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,240
Okay,

495
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,000
» But I that's where I'd like to see. And

496
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:34,640
if we could get the general direction of

497
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,400
the road and bridge, we're going to hold

498
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:41,280
hold that to the 3.4%

499
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:44,800
increase. Um, I think I could go with

500
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,880
that. move on. And if Patty's clear on

501
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,200
what and you're fine with that, Don and

502
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,119
Wanda.

503
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,800
» Oh, Commissioner Heiny is here.

504
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,440
» I don't know if it it solves our

505
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,680
problem.

506
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,599
» No, it it solves it, but it kind of

507
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:02,599
stops stops the bleeding for right the

508
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,599
moment.

509
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,440
Patty, I think that's the direction that

510
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:15,599
the commission would like to go is just

511
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:19,200
hold the road and bridge at a 3.4%

512
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:21,839
3.4% increase as opposed to the 5.8.

513
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,560
» So you you want that out of um annual

514
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:26,480
projects then

515
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:30,200
» I believe so 100 120 I think is what

516
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200
Brian said. 12

517
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,280
To make an impact on the budget, there's

518
00:47:55,359 --> 00:47:58,960
really only two things we can do. Road

519
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,200
and bridges

520
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200
» Or people.

521
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,839
And we do people. We take away a lot of

522
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,839
services and things that we're doing.

523
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:10,839
But

524
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,720
» So then Mike's budget will be 5,742

525
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,720
496.

526
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,720
» Yep.

527
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:31,119
Is that 5 million uh

528
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:33,119
742,000

529
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:36,119
or 7

530
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,119
» 5,742,496

531
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:54,720
» Last night and um John Red Viva he said

532
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:58,480
he said to just hold what we that we

533
00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:00,559
need an annual of 7 million. So, we're

534
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,079
not anywhere near that, but that's I

535
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,839
guess what we're going to that's why we

536
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:06,640
did the road and bridge living. So,

537
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:09,640
» 5,700 what?

538
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,640
» 5742496.

539
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:15,359
» Thank you. Mhm.

540
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,640
» One bad [clears throat]

541
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:23,200
» 266 250.

542
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:26,200
The original was 266 259

543
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
just

544
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,440
Ryan and the thought process was um

545
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Brian presented us and I think on the

546
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:38,559
yellow sheet we had some costs that were

547
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,079
the highest and so you know we really

548
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,640
can't do anything with the judicial

549
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:45,200
system and our thought was just hold the

550
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,880
road and bridge funding to the 3.4% 4%

551
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:51,200
that we're getting for just to kind of

552
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:55,079
stop uh stop transferring so much out of

553
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,079
the general fund. So

554
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:03,599
So where's the government building also?

555
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,240
That was

556
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:13,240
» The levy one or

557
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:13,240
» No the the government buildings 57 111

558
00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:19,640
» Government buildings is

559
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,640
» 137

560
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,680
it's on that first page

561
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,680
towards

562
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Ryan, did we get a final number on the

563
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,400
uh it that you were thinking?

564
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,760
» I haven't gotten the spreadsheet yet.

565
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,280
» Oh, okay.

566
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,520
» No, I haven't gotten

567
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,839
» Around 200,000. Is that where we're

568
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,200
thinking it? Around 200,000. No, it's

569
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:58,640
going to be completely different because

570
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,079
we got to we got to make adjustments

571
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,720
across different departments because

572
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,680
we're consolidating. So, there's monies

573
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,400
that are going to come out of some

574
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,240
budgets

575
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,559
» And then that's going to be I think

576
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:09,680
we're looking at almost 300,000 in the

577
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,119
IT, but

578
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,960
» Some of that's being transferred from

579
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:14,880
one budget to the other because we're

580
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,160
not going to have computer budgets.

581
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,520
Computers are going to be paid for out

582
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,880
of the IT budget

583
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,000
» And so forth. So they can

584
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,559
» So so the is is that so I understand the

585
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,800
it budget is going to be 300 but that's

586
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:30,160
also then reducing

587
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,920
» So so what what is the overall do you

588
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,640
have an idea what the I guess the

589
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,760
increase is going to be you know because

590
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,400
if we cut if we cut a 100,000 out of the

591
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:43,599
other departments and they're not doing

592
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,839
any more and this one is 300,000

593
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:48,400
that's different than just being

594
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:50,079
» I think what we had in provisional is

595
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,839
200,000 and it's going to be right

596
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,359
roughly that's the net effect. It's not

597
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:54,240
going to change. There's going to be no

598
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:56,240
change.

599
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,119
» The net effect is is going to be

600
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,240
» 61

601
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,920
» Little change.

602
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:02,880
» It's just we're going to rearrange how

603
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,880
that budgeting is done.

604
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,000
» Hopefully then that's going to introduce

605
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,400
us

606
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,079
» Included together things like printer

607
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,720
services and things like that so that we

608
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,200
can start taking advantage of enterprise

609
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:18,319
and try to cut the costs of it. Do you

610
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,800
see that this budget is it gonna is it

611
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:23,680
gonna kind of for lack of a better term

612
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,280
balloon to 200 and then reduce or do you

613
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,800
think it's going to be at that level

614
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,280
just forever?

615
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,800
» I think it might be

616
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,200
it's probably going to be at that level

617
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,839
for a while. Um because we have a lot of

618
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,720
other uh modernization projects that we

619
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:39,839
got to get done too.

620
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,200
So,

621
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:42,400
» But the good thing is is I think we're

622
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,240
going to get to that where we're going

623
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,400
to have it stabilized and we're going to

624
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,040
have much better security.

625
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,400
» So,

626
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,920
» With the improvements that we're going

627
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,440
to make in technology, are we going to

628
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:58,720
be able to provide

629
00:52:53,440 --> 00:53:00,160
the public with access of our meetings?

630
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:03,040
» Access to our meetings.

631
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,760
» Pardon? Um I think what he's saying is

632
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,920
there's

633
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,599
» People complain they don't they try to

634
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,119
come in and they they can't get into the

635
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,720
meeting.

636
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,480
» They can't get into this meeting.

637
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,599
» You mean electronic

638
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,520
» Electronically

639
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:18,000
» Meeting last night wasn't even wasn't

640
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,520
even recorded. I mean it or not last

641
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,839
night Tuesday night Tuesday night's

642
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,720
meeting

643
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:22,559
» Was not even our

644
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,119
» Tuesday night meeting was not even

645
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:24,800
recorded.

646
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:27,680
» That's because we had a bunch of network

647
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,680
changes here and the camera did not get

648
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,240
to the right. Is that resolved then with

649
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,920
this?

650
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,960
» We hope it's resolved. Yes, it should be

651
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,680
resolved, right?

652
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,240
» Yeah.

653
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,880
» Today.

654
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,960
» Yes, exactly.

655
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,640
» I think Alissa part of those firewall

656
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,520
projects that we've had to update all of

657
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,680
our firewalls.

658
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,680
» Alyssa, it fixed it yesterday.

659
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,280
» 253.

660
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,760
» We've had trouble with it for I think as

661
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:55,119
long as I've been

662
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,319
» Since it's been very good until just

663
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:59,839
recently when we had all the networking

664
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:01,280
So it's just a little bit of a

665
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:03,599
» Picking up what you're laying down.

666
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,960
» When you when you do changes to a

667
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:09,920
network that are that deep that's here,

668
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,079
» Which we are doing for security reasons,

669
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,920
» We are you are going to have hiccups and

670
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,800
that it's a hiccup

671
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,760
» Does get fixed.

672
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,680
» I believe I think so.

673
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:22,160
» Did you get the hiccups of the jail?

674
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:25,839
» This this is more for bigger projects

675
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,559
» On our next scrum. If a building's car

676
00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:29,520
cameras need to you know

677
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,680
» That kind of stuff

678
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:36,319
» Does this situation

679
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:38,240
» Every year whatever policy IP right so

680
00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:40,319
» Not budget

681
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:42,319
» And it makes it more difficult the

682
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:47,000
cameras are not under our control

683
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:47,000
» If we don't use this 19 this year

684
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:53,280
it's not like we have that configuration

685
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:56,640
» That would be so we can

686
00:54:53,280 --> 00:55:01,200
That's good because [laughter]

687
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:03,440
» It's a slow it's a coordination between

688
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,520
» Different companies too.

689
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,160
» Goes out we can push that test.

690
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,640
» I get it.

691
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,839
» But if goes out this isn't going to make

692
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,480
a hell beans difference.

693
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:17,160
» No.

694
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,160
» Oh we cut down to 10

695
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:24,160
» Three. So, so far what we've done is

696
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:27,200
just to take uh 100,000 out of projects

697
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,599
for uh road.

698
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:32,680
» Excuse me.

699
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:32,680
» That's the only thing we've done so far.

700
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,040
» And I would I would propose that we

701
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,040
reduce

702
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,400
the

703
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,680
government cent's repairs and

704
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,680
maintenance by $15,000.

705
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:54,520
at 253 right now. Take it down to 103.

706
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:02,160
» That's from that.

707
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,880
» So, so, so we have the 90.

708
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,200
» Mhm.

709
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,839
» Yeah.

710
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,160
» Through the levy. Yeah.

711
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:09,599
» If we don't use any of that or don't use

712
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,799
at all, I should say. Yeah.

713
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,319
» That's for building. That's for

714
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:14,240
maintenance and repairs also.

715
00:56:12,319 --> 00:56:16,720
» In my opinion, we should be using every

716
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:17,680
penny of that 90. I I don't disagree

717
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,920
with you

718
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,920
» At all. But at the same token,

719
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,480
» Then we don't need I don't think we need

720
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,400
253 on top of that.

721
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,280
» Well, the the only thing I would say in

722
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:32,000
the past in the past few years

723
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,040
» On the government buildings

724
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,599
» 161

725
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,640
» 161.

726
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:38,640
» We've had some big items. You know, this

727
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,680
these buildings are 20 years old. The

728
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:47,119
cooler, the water heaters. We need roof

729
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:50,160
repairs. Um, I guess I I understand.

730
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:51,760
Um, understand, but we also got to fix

731
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,640
the buildings, too.

732
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:57,520
» Absolutely.

733
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:59,520
» He's also budgeting for random things

734
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,799
where some concrete guy is going to come

735
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,359
and tell him how much it's going to

736
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:06,079
cost. I think it should be a little more

737
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:09,599
more of a firm estimate than that.

738
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:11,920
Here's 50,000 for new concrete.

739
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:16,640
So reduce it by 10

740
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:22,200
» By 15. So it'd be 10,300

741
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:22,200
instead of instead of 25 300.

742
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:29,760
» I don't know. How about how about we

743
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,520
reduce it by 10, call it good? Because I

744
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:35,119
I just I hate to be in the position

745
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:37,280
where we have something major

746
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:38,000
break and we don't have the funds to

747
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,040
don't

748
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:43,200
» Transfer it out of the U we then we

749
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,440
transfer it out of the

750
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:48,079
» Patty. Don't we have a fund for

751
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,880
» How have we been doing on that

752
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:54,160
» Purchase of chillers and things?

753
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,920
» Okay. It used to be It used to be like

754
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,640
» Well, I guess what I'm saying is

755
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,000
» We had a bump.

756
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,640
» I guess what I'm saying is we have the

757
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,319
90. If we don't spend the 90, if we

758
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,440
spend 87,

759
00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:05,599
» We're going to then next year we're

760
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,319
going to have 93.

761
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:12,799
If we spend 60 for some reason this

762
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:15,200
year, next year we're going to have 120.

763
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:16,799
I mean, for 28

764
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,040
120,

765
00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:21,119
» I guess. And

766
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,319
» Granted, if if you know another chiller

767
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:27,280
goes out or whatever, then yes, we'll

768
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:28,880
» But $25,000 is not going to make or

769
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,079
15,000 is not going to make a difference

770
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,920
on a chiller

771
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,559
» Or anything major going on.

772
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,559
» I agree. I think we can go down.

773
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:37,599
» What's our emergency bond? Is that still

774
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,599
400,000?

775
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,720
» 500. This contingency is 500.

776
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:45,520
» Contingency is 500. I think can go along

777
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,520
with that.

778
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,520
She going to take it to 10.

779
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,520
» Yes.

780
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Okay.

781
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,400
» What else we got?

782
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,839
» Is there any I know the ambulance.

783
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:13,119
» You got it. You You have to keep that in

784
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:15,359
there.

785
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:17,359
utility. Okay.

786
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:19,440
» The ambulance did a good job of doing

787
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:22,079
some reductions. Do we want to try to

788
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,079
get that down to the 3.4% like the other

789
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,079
ones?

790
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,119
» How much more would that if we went from

791
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:42,240
57 on the ambulance to 34?

792
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:43,119
» Anybody got calcul? Brian's got all the

793
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,480
numbers.

794
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,760
» I didn't bring my phone, so I'm going to

795
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,640
have to borrow cash and see.

796
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,160
» Okay. I don't think it'd be very much,

797
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,280
but

798
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:56,640
you know, I just if if they're at least

799
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:59,440
growing at the same rate that taxes are,

800
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:02,799
I don't think it's a big it's not a huge

801
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,880
deal. Um, if they're growing at a higher

802
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:07,599
rate, then that's that's where it gets

803
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:11,599
problematic. And we all know things go

804
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:13,760
up and we got to do increases. That's

805
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:15,520
I think they cut Did they cut machinery

806
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,799
and auto equipment? I think we reduced

807
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:21,200
that by something.

808
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:23,440
» We um cut um

809
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,040
supplies by 10.

810
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,480
» Did we? Okay.

811
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:31,119
» And machinery and auto equipment. Um you

812
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,520
went down to 39,000

813
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:37,520
instead of 59. What what about just

814
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:41,520
doing instead of 59 just do wipe that

815
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:44,480
out and you know go to

816
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,240
because we don't do that with any of the

817
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:50,400
other departments you know we used to do

818
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:51,920
that county accumulation with uh I think

819
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,520
we did it with the highway and we did it

820
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,920
with emergency management when the

821
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,559
ambulance and we stopped it with all of

822
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,960
those

823
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:04,559
maybe we just you know continued because

824
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:07,520
that's how we were doing So

825
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:10,160
the sheriff's budget, what he does is he

826
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,920
» Includes the new vehicles in his budget

827
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,160
just like just like the highway

828
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,000
department does the trucks and

829
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,480
» Equipment. [clears throat]

830
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,720
» Yeah. And if it's maybe that's that I

831
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,359
think would would be better for planning

832
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,920
purposes. Hey, we need a new ambulance

833
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:28,079
this year. And so I've asked for an

834
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,240
increase because we're going to do that

835
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:33,480
this year. And

836
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,480
as opposed

837
01:01:33,587 --> 01:01:35,607
[clears throat]

838
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,200
» I don't care. Let me come up and come.

839
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,839
» Certainly. That's why we're here and

840
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,839
it's and it's open.

841
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Nancy, when Annie is speaking as an

842
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,760
individual, not a representative Yankton

843
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,280
Thrive, but it's difficult when I've sat

844
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,520
through enough county commission

845
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:03,280
meetings to hear the ambulance be

846
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:05,520
applauded at some meetings for saving up

847
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,079
the money they needed when they need to

848
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:10,559
purchase an ambulance because it is so

849
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:13,040
expensive that they can't put that in

850
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:15,359
one singular budget year. And then to

851
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,599
hear the comments of maybe we shouldn't

852
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:20,160
be saving up for these large purchases

853
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:22,319
in advance. So, I think sometimes

854
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,319
there's a mixed message that is going

855
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:27,119
out potentially to your department heads

856
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:29,599
of how they should be saving for these

857
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:33,119
large purchases that they know are going

858
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:36,160
to be coming. And from listening to the

859
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:38,640
presentations that have been public, it

860
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:42,000
sounds like the ambulance is working to

861
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:44,079
make the changes to create more revenue

862
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,240
where some of your other departments do

863
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:48,880
not have the opportunity to create

864
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,640
revenue. So, this might be one of the

865
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,720
departments that gets analyzed

866
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,559
differently, but that's just from

867
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,200
someone who's listening and not seeing

868
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,200
the actual numbers.

869
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,440
» That's 30.

870
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,359
» So, what if we do just 30?

871
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:09,839
» Well, you know, and I and I want to um

872
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:12,160
remind you guys that,

873
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:15,599
you know, next year it'll probably be

874
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,039
things will maybe go up. So you either

875
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:20,160
cut it by this

876
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:23,200
» 9,000 here, 8,000 there, and then at the

877
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:25,680
end come the end of next year, you're

878
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,000
going to have to supplement that. But

879
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:30,640
but this number right here is basically

880
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,319
almost like a contingency also for the

881
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,200
ambulance.

882
01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:37,599
It is it he wants to put this into

883
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,720
future purchases or a savings account

884
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,799
kind of basically for

885
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,119
» Yeah. And you can do that cuz if they

886
01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:44,079
don't spend that budget, it it stays in

887
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:47,520
the general fund.

888
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:50,480
» But so

889
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,920
» Yeah, it's I mean it's it's ultimately

890
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,920
» I wouldn't have issue but I wouldn't

891
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,559
have an issue taking it to 30 instead of

892
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,079
39.

893
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:59,839
» I don't know if that's enough to get it

894
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,599
to 3.4.

895
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:03,599
» Well, and the reason I say I think with

896
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:05,839
with major purchases, the commission's

897
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:07,839
done a really good job. Um all our

898
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:11,039
ambulances are in really good shape. we

899
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:14,400
just replace the the oldest one and we

900
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:18,240
do we do run two most of the time and we

901
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:20,400
have four. So if there was an issue with

902
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:24,319
with one I know it's not ideal but I

903
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:27,280
think we we'd be okay. Um, and like I

904
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:29,839
said, I I think it would push more for

905
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,240
planning purposes if hey, we got one, we

906
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:34,160
got a plate. Let's let's plan for it.

907
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,400
Let's budget it for that year rather

908
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:39,200
than Well, I mean, you guys know how it

909
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,839
is. If you got the money, you're going

910
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:45,039
to spend the money whether you need it

911
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:47,119
or or or not. Um,

912
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:49,280
I mean, that's how government is. And

913
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:50,960
» The reason we updated got to upgrade to

914
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,680
the new the new ambulance was because we

915
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:56,079
had $700,000 in a fund for the

916
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,880
» No, I we didn't have that much.

917
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:58,559
» What was that?

918
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,400
» They had spent they had spent it down.

919
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:03,760
» But what was it? Because we only had to

920
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:06,079
pay 50,000 extra for the ambulance or 60

921
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,799
or whatever the magic number was. We had

922
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:09,280
» Well the

923
01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:09,839
» 80 to 90% of the new ambulance was was

924
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,920
saved for

925
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:15,280
» Well I mean and I guess if it's a phil

926
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,440
philosophical view then we should be

927
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,520
doing this with the highway department.

928
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,200
We should be doing it with the sheriff.

929
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,799
» I said three and a half years ago that

930
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,920
we should we should have capital

931
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:26,160
expenditure fund.

932
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,000
» I don't disagree with you and that's the

933
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,920
right way to do it. We don't have the

934
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,920
money to do it though. That's that's the

935
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:35,440
that's the problem. I mean, if we had

936
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:37,599
the funding to do it that yeah, we

937
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,760
should be replacing our road graders and

938
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:41,440
our trucks. And you're you're 100%

939
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,400
right, John. We don't have the money to

940
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:47,400
do it if that's the right way to do it,

941
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,400
but

942
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,880
this is going towards they they want to

943
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,400
save that money.

944
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,440
» However, it doesn't go into any special

945
01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:01,200
account goes into general fund and it

946
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,599
just stays in general fund, right?

947
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,880
Yes.

948
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:04,160
» So it's not like it's going into a

949
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,559
special account. It just goes into

950
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,000
general funding. So the only So you can

951
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:10,640
sit here and say, "Oh, we'll cut this

952
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:13,200
budget and make yourselves feel good

953
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:16,000
» Or we just do not approve the spend the

954
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,680
spending of that." So budget is one

955
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,359
thing.

956
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,160
Spending is a whole another thing and

957
01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:24,319
that's comes next year. And we have to

958
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,240
be much more mindful of what we're doing

959
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:28,079
with our budget as we're spending it as

960
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,480
we're doing it this year. So every time

961
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:33,680
they come up and they they really need

962
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:36,640
to show a strong return on investment on

963
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:38,400
any type of investment like that. So

964
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,200
» I get I get what you're saying, but I

965
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,880
think there's also value in you know

966
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,839
like government buildings and the roads

967
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:48,240
and we're we're saying that taxes are

968
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:51,839
going up 3.4%.

969
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:54,160
And holding all departments

970
01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:56,319
holding the line on that or as close as

971
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,480
we can get. I think that's important,

972
01:06:56,319 --> 01:07:00,160
too, because we're doing that with the

973
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,640
highway funding. We're doing that with

974
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,559
government buildings, but then we're not

975
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,039
doing it with this one. I should I think

976
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:11,119
we just need to realize that if if we're

977
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:12,960
not staying really close to the 3.4%,

978
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:15,039
uh it's not really fair to the other

979
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:18,319
departments because every department

980
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:21,760
has, you know, they have needs and

981
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:23,760
almost everybody is well under what they

982
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,359
were last year except for these few

983
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,720
here.

984
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:29,119
What' you come up with for a number,

985
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:31,520
Brian?

986
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:34,319
» Just real quick. So, if you were to

987
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:38,480
reduce the uh ambulance increase from a

988
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:41,280
5.7% increase to a 3.4%, that'd be a net

989
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:44,799
savings of about 30,000, you'd be

990
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,799
increasing it 52,000 instead of 82,000.

991
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:49,200
And then as far as the uh road and

992
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:52,079
bridge, if you were to lower that

993
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:56,240
increase from 5.8 to 3.4, for that would

994
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:59,280
be a net savings of 134,000.

995
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:02,000
» So I I I think the ambulance can take a

996
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,559
$30,000 trim

997
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:08,000
and then they'd be at the 3.4 like

998
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:10,799
everybody else and we just move on.

999
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:13,359
That's treat all treat everybody fairly.

1000
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:17,400
» So change that to 9,000 and I'm fine

1001
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:17,400
with that and we can move on.

1002
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,960
So, we've got um

1003
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:40,400
government buildings changed, highway

1004
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:42,560
change, ambulance change.

1005
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,080
» Where are we at on the safety center

1006
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,600
building?

1007
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,600
You can pull that one up.

1008
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,600
» 392.

1009
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:56,040
» Sure. Sure.

1010
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,560
But that's we got to use some of this

1011
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:04,440
for this building too, right?

1012
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,440
» Yep. You can use Yep.

1013
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,640
» 44.

1014
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:27,199
So, what if we get past 44 there? What

1015
01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:30,199
if we took um

1016
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:30,199
» Okay,

1017
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:40,679
» We already took 15 off this this

1018
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,679
building, right?

1019
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:46,120
» You got your calculator handy now?

1020
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,359
» Got one more for you.

1021
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:51,199
» Sure.

1022
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:52,880
government and safety buildings is that

1023
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:55,120
24.

1024
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,880
What do we have to get where that's

1025
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,199
where what do we have to cut to get that

1026
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,560
down to 3.4?

1027
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:02,320
We're not going to get there, I'm sure,

1028
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,440
but

1029
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,199
that I would say that [clears throat] if

1030
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:08,400
you enact just the three cuts you're

1031
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,679
talking about this morning, we're

1032
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,960
actually going to come in at a lower

1033
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:13,760
budget for 27 than we have in 26 just

1034
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:18,360
for the

1035
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,360
» Yeah, it's good.

1036
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:41,480
change

1037
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:48,000
» General budgets affect our general

1038
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,120
transfer that

1039
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,760
» No because they're still going to get

1040
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:53,400
the same

1041
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,400
» I like that hat

1042
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:58,000
» You made it

1043
01:10:56,480 --> 01:11:01,480
So

1044
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,480
the general budget

1045
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,239
you're a patriot

1046
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:15,199
» This will all stay the same.

1047
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:17,600
» All stay the same.

1048
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:20,679
All of this was dancing because that's

1049
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,679
you know

1050
01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:32,840
» They got

1051
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:37,239
things.

1052
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,520
what else we got. I think we made some

1053
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,520
good changes. I'm happy with Is there

1054
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:52,080
anything else we wanted to do or

1055
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,080
» Well, I'd like to know uh bottom line is

1056
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,080
where we're at.

1057
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,480
» Where we're at is we are still going to

1058
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,000
be according to

1059
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:03,360
» The bottom line is we're still going to

1060
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:06,560
be under or we're going to be drawing

1061
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,120
from uh the general

1062
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,679
» Um

1063
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,880
» How much?

1064
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:09,440
» There's no way around that.

1065
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,920
» Yeah, I

1066
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:15,520
» It'll be just a little over two million.

1067
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:19,199
a little over two million. Um we do

1068
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,960
there is I think from my from our

1069
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,400
previous discussions there's maybe about

1070
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,159
a million that we don't account for

1071
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:27,040
revenue. We don't account for it at all.

1072
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:29,280
So we might be uh drawing only only

1073
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,760
about a million which aligns with what

1074
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,239
the financial committee is showing us.

1075
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:37,280
And I and I think per Patty, correct me

1076
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:39,520
if I'm wrong, that's it's odd, but

1077
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,040
that's how government really works

1078
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,800
because we're going to have unspent

1079
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,239
funds and every year those roll over.

1080
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,640
Correct me if I'm wrong, Patty.

1081
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:50,719
» It just

1082
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:53,679
I think the big thing we need to avoid

1083
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:55,760
is dipping into our cash reserves by

1084
01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:58,080
highway transfers, which has happened in

1085
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,080
the past. We can't do that anymore for

1086
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,560
what Jeff said. And I and it doesn't

1087
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:05,440
look like we're going to be doing that.

1088
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:08,960
Uh so I think we're

1089
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:10,640
» Well we'll still have to, you know,

1090
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,920
supplement the highway. Yeah.

1091
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:16,719
» There's no getting around that.

1092
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:18,640
» Yeah. We won't we won't be drawing down

1093
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:19,520
» The the reserve funds as much

1094
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,320
» As much.

1095
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,560
» Yeah. And

1096
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,800
» And you're correct too if budgets are

1097
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,679
not spent all the way that just

1098
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,600
» It it's [clears throat] already being I

1099
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:33,600
mean saying it's spent out of general

1100
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,159
but we won't really

1101
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:38,400
» Spend it so the expenditures won't go up

1102
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:41,840
or go you know they'll go down.

1103
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:44,640
» I you know in an ideal world we we would

1104
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,520
bring in $20 million of taxes and we'd

1105
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,280
spend less than that or at least that.

1106
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,719
In an ideal world, we'd bring in 20

1107
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,199
million and we'd spend 20 million and

1108
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:53,440
that's

1109
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:56,320
» Exactly but that's just not how that's

1110
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:58,000
just not how or less than that.

1111
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,320
» Exactly that because that's that's what

1112
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:02,080
tax people's money and that's and that's

1113
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,400
what we should only be taking what we

1114
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:03,760
need.

1115
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,159
» The real world is

1116
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,600
» But

1117
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:08,320
» When you don't have any more money in

1118
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:11,040
the bank, you don't pay nothing.

1119
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,120
» The real world is is if we if we keep

1120
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,960
going on the path that we were going on,

1121
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,640
eventually we have to make hard cuts.

1122
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,560
And the only place we can do those hard

1123
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,159
cuts is in the road and bridge. And

1124
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,159
which means that our entire road

1125
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:25,040
transportation system will have to be

1126
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:26,080
really scaled back. We'd have to tear up

1127
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,520
highways,

1128
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,679
» Get them down to gravel, get the

1129
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,440
maintenance down lower. People are not

1130
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:33,040
going to be happy with what happens. But

1131
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:35,760
it's what would have to happen under

1132
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:38,080
those budget constraints.

1133
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:41,120
» Everybody wants roads. Nobody wants to

1134
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,800
pay for them. And and I'm not saying

1135
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:45,040
going back to the roads, I'm not saying

1136
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,440
that we have to pave every road in

1137
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,920
Yankton County, but if there's a paved

1138
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:52,800
road now, it costs more money to tear it

1139
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,920
up and maintain it in the future than it

1140
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,199
does

1141
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,480
» Uh to fix fix what it is. And I think

1142
01:14:57,199 --> 01:15:00,239
we've kind of proven that.

1143
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:01,679
» I think we Yeah. And what you're I

1144
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:04,239
believe what you're saying is preserve

1145
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:06,719
what we have to the best of our ability.

1146
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:08,800
» Yeah. Yes. I think that makes sense.

1147
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:10,960
» Go ahead, Brian. uh you had inquired

1148
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:13,520
about if we were to uh increase the

1149
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,679
government buildings budget by 3.4%

1150
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,760
instead of 24%.

1151
01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:19,920
That would lower the increase from

1152
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,640
57,000

1153
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,440
to 8,000. So that'd be a savings of

1154
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,440
49,000.

1155
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:26,440
» 49

1156
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,040
» 15. We have 15.

1157
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:36,159
» This is going to be 15.

1158
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:40,400
» No, make that 24.

1159
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:44,000
So we got 35 off it total

1160
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:47,000
which is 10,000 10 short from what Brian

1161
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,000
calculated.

1162
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,880
So we take the building repair and

1163
01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:56,199
maintenance at the safety center from 44

1164
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,199
to 24.

1165
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,560
» Daddy, did you say that uh you're kind

1166
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,840
of projecting that the general fund

1167
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:08,159
would be around 2.4 million at the end

1168
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:11,360
of the year? Yeah. Yes.

1169
01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:14,400
And and it give you a kind of a rough

1170
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,320
idea, you know, but that, you know, that

1171
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,840
depends too on, you know, if everybody

1172
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,840
spends their budget

1173
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,920
» Or some, you know,

1174
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,080
» And and there's and it's hard to predict

1175
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,920
what the revenue is going to be from the

1176
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,800
jail and and I think you do a really

1177
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:31,600
good job of being conservative with that

1178
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,280
estimate and getting more revenue.

1179
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,520
That's what we want. We don't want to

1180
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,520
shoot for this star and then get a lot

1181
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,280
less revenue than we projected. That

1182
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,080
That's bad. So, I think we do it the

1183
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,080
right way.

1184
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,880
» Yeah. You don't never want to overstate

1185
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,280
your revenue.

1186
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,560
» Yeah.

1187
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:50,880
» Because that's not giving you an exact

1188
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:53,840
picture of of

1189
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:56,480
uh of the real revenue.

1190
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:59,440
» Yeah, Mr. Chair, I'm I guess as happy as

1191
01:16:56,480 --> 01:17:00,880
I can be with the budget we have. I

1192
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:05,239
mean, I think we've made some really

1193
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,239
good solid difficult

1194
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:14,080
carryover at the end of uh last year,

1195
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:15,760
» Isn't there? Every year,

1196
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,280
» I think

1197
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,239
» Carryover at the end of last year was

1198
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:23,199
5.1 million. I'm going to disagree a

1199
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:24,960
little bit. I on paper it might look

1200
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:27,040
like we're going to be at 2.4, four, but

1201
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,520
we're going to be right around that same

1202
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:32,960
area of 5.1 at [clears throat] the end

1203
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:35,960
of the year in my opinion.

1204
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,960
» Why?

1205
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,920
» Because uh based on through the first

1206
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:41,440
seven months of the year, not everybody

1207
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,120
is going to spend all of their budget

1208
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:45,120
and our revenue was estimated

1209
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,360
conservatively. So, we're going to end

1210
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,920
better than it looks on paper. And I

1211
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,920
would guess

1212
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,440
» What history has showed on on the last

1213
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,400
four or five years I've been dealing

1214
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:57,600
with. Well, those were uh skewed by the

1215
01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:00,800
CO dollars, but if you look at 2015 to

1216
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,320
2020 precoid dollars, our monthly

1217
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,280
balances are right in line with where

1218
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:09,320
they were in those years.

1219
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:09,320
» Taking what 15 20% inflation in back

1220
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,920
» Uh in those years,

1221
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,679
» Pardon me,

1222
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,320
» Are you using 10 or 15 20 maybe more?

1223
01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:19,120
» Yeah.

1224
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:21,360
» Inflation in those figures.

1225
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:24,640
Well, the in fact the figures this year

1226
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:27,920
are running about four or 500,000 ahead

1227
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,520
per month of 2015 to 2020. So that would

1228
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,440
account for some of the inflation. That

1229
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,600
would maybe not all of it. I'm not sure

1230
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:36,640
what the exact inflation dollar to

1231
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:38,640
calculate would be figure, but uh I

1232
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:41,520
think we're going to be around 5

1233
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:45,440
million. As of right now, Patty has

1234
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:48,080
earmarked 2.3 of that for the uh cash

1235
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:50,000
applied, but we usually have more that

1236
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,719
is considered unassigned. And that I

1237
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,000
think that's going to be around 2.8,

1238
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:56,800
which is what you want. You want to

1239
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,400
build up your reserves again. So,

1240
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:02,760
» I'd also like to know what accounts

1241
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,760
payable are at the end of the year.

1242
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,600
ready to get into the levy discussion or

1243
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:20,120
» We got hell of a lot less money than we

1244
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,120
had before. That's all I can tell you

1245
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,280
» And prices have gone up on everything.

1246
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:28,000
Yeah, but we we've made some pretty

1247
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:30,640
substantial cuts in the last couple

1248
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:34,719
years and I think you know to to our

1249
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,760
credit we've we've kind of stems and

1250
01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:38,320
it's

1251
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:41,120
» We still need to pay attention and be

1252
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:45,280
» Well you can always if you guys want

1253
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:47,920
to have and if we can hold for a few

1254
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:50,560
years I think we're that's when doing

1255
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:53,600
fine and we're in a lot better position

1256
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:56,719
than other counties all forget

1257
01:19:53,600 --> 01:20:00,080
last year gone home September 17th what

1258
01:19:56,719 --> 01:20:02,000
three four people out of a total count

1259
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,840
you know almost 10% of their workforce

1260
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,280
they cut so

1261
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,840
» I mean we're not we're not there and

1262
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:09,679
they're just our neighbors so

1263
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,560
» Exploring

1264
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:14,159
when are we going to see the data with

1265
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,960
the changes that we made today

1266
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:17,679
» Really

1267
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:19,520
» In here so I can look at

1268
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:20,320
» Can we have them by Tuesday

1269
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,199
» What's that

1270
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,280
» Changes

1271
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:24,880
» Sure Yeah, Tuesday.

1272
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,360
» I'll have it ready. I already have it

1273
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,040
ready for

1274
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,080
» Okay. I didn't hear

1275
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,040
» I'll have you ready for it

1276
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:34,040
» Tuesday night for it ready for you.

1277
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,040
» Okay,

1278
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:41,280
good.

1279
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:42,320
» Okay,

1280
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,440
» Perfect.

1281
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:48,640
» Ryan, I added levy discussion to the

1282
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:51,040
agenda real quick and and to recap so

1283
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:53,760
we're all on the same page. Um Ryan and

1284
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:56,719
I am Amanda and Don were there. Um what

1285
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:59,679
I heard from not only constituents but

1286
01:20:56,719 --> 01:21:02,400
Mr. Vra when he talked is he he really

1287
01:20:59,679 --> 01:21:06,960
strongly encouraged a very transparent

1288
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:09,120
plan uh exactly where if the levy passes

1289
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:13,199
where the dollars are going to go and so

1290
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:15,199
I would just maybe want to get us uh

1291
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:18,159
close to where we agree we might not be

1292
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:20,400
100%. And then I think we need to commit

1293
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:24,000
to the public that if the voting bridge

1294
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:28,400
levy passes, here is our plan and this

1295
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:30,320
is where the dollars are going to go.

1296
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,520
The problem with last night's discussion

1297
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,840
was

1298
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,440
» And [clears throat] they never went into

1299
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,400
why

1300
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:36,800
why

1301
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,080
» Yeah.

1302
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:42,000
» And and uh we've got maintenance, road

1303
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,480
maintenance for for years.

1304
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:47,679
» Yeah.

1305
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:49,679
» And uh why is that? Well, we've got

1306
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:52,560
some people would say Gary Moore would

1307
01:21:49,679 --> 01:21:54,080
say we got programs that were stupid. I

1308
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,880
I wouldn't agree with that, but

1309
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,679
» Yeah.

1310
01:21:54,880 --> 01:22:00,159
» Uh I think we got to know why.

1311
01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:00,719
» Yeah, I I would agree. And I think the

1312
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:03,120
He did

1313
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:05,040
» We're just screwing roads and bridges is

1314
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,719
what we're doing here now.

1315
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,400
» Yeah. We don't have a choice, though. I

1316
01:22:06,719 --> 01:22:10,960
mean, that's that's the if you don't

1317
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,800
have enough money to maintain roads and

1318
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:15,920
bridges, that's that's really the only

1319
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:18,000
area can't we can't cut court costs. We

1320
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,400
you know, so but I guess where I'm

1321
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,920
looking at wanted to get your guys'

1322
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,560
feedback.

1323
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,080
Um I think we need to commit a

1324
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:29,840
percentage of this, a pretty good

1325
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:32,159
percentage to Flees. This is my opinion

1326
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:35,040
and subject to what you think. pretty

1327
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:37,920
good percentage to the uh Fleeks B

1328
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,560
bridge project which we just got a grant

1329
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,960
and maybe commit to other highway

1330
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:46,159
projects but I think we need to discuss

1331
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:49,840
this decide it and then put something on

1332
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:53,440
the next meeting and commit to it before

1333
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,719
the voting starts so uh people know

1334
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:56,320
where their dollars are going to go. I

1335
01:22:54,719 --> 01:22:59,760
think just for clarification to the

1336
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:04,320
public is is the road and bridge uh

1337
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:05,440
costs on the stone gone

1338
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,679
» Sewn church bridge

1339
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:08,679
» In here

1340
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:14,080
» The projects um and uh

1341
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:16,080
» And unfortunately that's the thing is

1342
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,400
the because of that coming out of the

1343
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,920
projects Mike has pushed off other

1344
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,480
things that were outside your plan

1345
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,239
» Y

1346
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,960
» That are not going to be done

1347
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:24,880
» Yep

1348
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,280
» To pay for the stone church bridge

1349
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:30,400
This comes into the bigger problem. We

1350
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:36,320
have to we have to really assess our

1351
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:38,320
road system. Um as Greg said last night

1352
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:41,679
um

1353
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,679
we have 220 miles of paved road for the

1354
01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:47,679
county of our size for the taxes that we

1355
01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:50,480
bring in. That is a lot.

1356
01:23:47,679 --> 01:23:53,840
We have we have a tax base that does not

1357
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:55,440
support the road system that we have.

1358
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:59,280
There's

1359
01:23:55,440 --> 01:24:02,000
cases where we don't know if even these

1360
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:04,159
uh putting in hard paved roads are

1361
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:07,120
necessary because what are the traffic

1362
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:08,880
volumes and that's what we should be

1363
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,960
looking at is if the traffic volumes

1364
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,920
don't support a hard hard road then we

1365
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:16,400
need to like look at saying hey is why

1366
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:19,120
are we overspending on this road because

1367
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,960
the traffic volume is not there.

1368
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,639
» Same thing with bridges. We have to

1369
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,719
really evaluate whether these brid

1370
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:27,520
whether we have a lot of bridges too.

1371
01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:30,880
It's like the transportation has changed

1372
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:32,560
from 50 years ago and we have to

1373
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:36,159
evaluate that

1374
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:38,639
» Because right now the system we have is

1375
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:40,639
not maintainable by the tax tax

1376
01:24:38,639 --> 01:24:41,199
» The same the same way it was last year

1377
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:42,960
in the year

1378
01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:43,760
» In year before and it's only gotten

1379
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,199
worse and worse.

1380
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,600
» We just redone it again three times now.

1381
01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:50,239
» So

1382
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:52,880
» Maybe four. I think I think that's a

1383
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:56,000
really good conversation. In the P 2017,

1384
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:57,760
they had a road task force. 2019, they

1385
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,920
had a road task force. I think Don was

1386
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:03,679
on that. And maybe that's that's uh

1387
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:05,920
something that we plan for maybe uh this

1388
01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:09,280
this winter with when we get new people

1389
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,440
on there and and we do a review of that.

1390
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,920
Um I think that's a great idea. And we

1391
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:16,000
do have traffic counters now. Mike has

1392
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,920
maybe that's something that we we get

1393
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:22,080
accurate things. I I agree with you

1394
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:24,080
100%. Um, and as far as that, I think

1395
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,080
that's one of the future goals we look

1396
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:29,360
toward.

1397
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:32,320
» In our meeting meeting Tuesday night,

1398
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:35,520
if this is possible, I'd like to know

1399
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:37,679
how much revenue comes from rural

1400
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,480
assessed property and how much comes

1401
01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:39,199
from

1402
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:42,320
» Town

1403
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:47,040
» Town town and country. because I think

1404
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:51,679
we need to let everybody know

1405
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:52,880
where where the funds are. Uh

1406
01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:55,040
» They don't want to play with the Boys

1407
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,199
and Girls Club in the country and we

1408
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:59,600
don't want to pay for the roads and you

1409
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:01,840
know that's that's part of the problem.

1410
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:06,800
And then the other thing I' I'd like to

1411
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:11,440
I'd like to see is our tax rate compared

1412
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:13,600
to the other 49 states.

1413
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:15,120
We're one of the lowest

1414
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,880
» Or I think we're one of the

1415
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,719
» Property tax

1416
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,560
» And that the public needs to know that

1417
01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:24,000
» For property tax South Dakota sits right

1418
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:25,120
in the middle of the 50 states.

1419
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,400
» But I think you got to take

1420
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,719
» Unlike our neighbor to the south,

1421
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,199
Nebraska is I think the one of the top

1422
01:26:28,719 --> 01:26:31,040
five.

1423
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:32,800
» I think you got to take the total tax

1424
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:36,000
burden though because because some

1425
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,679
places uh where their property tax may

1426
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,360
be lower, they have income tax and

1427
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:41,360
everything else. So I think I think if

1428
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,199
you add it all in when we did that

1429
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,800
summer study I think we were like number

1430
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:47,360
according to Governor Rhoden we were

1431
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,920
like the second lowest

1432
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,520
» Overall tax overall tax burden. I was

1433
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,560
just talking about the property tax.

1434
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,199
» I get what you're saying

1435
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:57,440
» But I'd like to I'd like to have the

1436
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:58,880
public public know that

1437
01:26:57,440 --> 01:26:59,440
we want everything done

1438
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,360
» That

1439
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:03,440
» We don't have enough funds to do it.

1440
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,840
John, that would presuppose that they

1441
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:09,440
listen to the meetings or attend the

1442
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:12,159
meetings and a lot of people don't. So,

1443
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:14,400
they just don't know. They just feel

1444
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:16,960
they're being taxed to death.

1445
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,880
» Yeah. Well, well, that's the case for

1446
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,239
her any tax. No one likes taxes.

1447
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,320
» Well, I I get that.

1448
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:25,040
» Someone who's happy about taxes.

1449
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:27,120
» I get that. But everybody wants roads.

1450
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:29,679
Everybody wants bridges. Everybody wants

1451
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:32,880
this. Everybody wants law enforcement.

1452
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:35,199
And it comes at a cost unfortunately.

1453
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:37,600
» We and I think we've done a a good job

1454
01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:40,080
and I appreciate working with you guys.

1455
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:42,000
We have an obligation to spend every tax

1456
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,480
dollar wisely, which I think we've done

1457
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:47,199
a good job. Um, and appreciate, but we

1458
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:50,960
also have an obligation to let the

1459
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:54,239
public know what happens if we don't fix

1460
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:55,760
their infrastructure. Um, you know, what

1461
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:58,080
is that going to mean? I mean, we had

1462
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:00,000
people last night that, you know, wanted

1463
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,920
wanted more snow removal and more

1464
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:04,239
maintenance. Well, how are you going to

1465
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,880
get more snow removal and more

1466
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:08,800
maintenance with less dollars? I can't

1467
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,840
figure that out and I don't think we

1468
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,440
can. I mean, people demand services and

1469
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,400
» Well, we're going to learn that. lost

1470
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,440
that. [laughter]

1471
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,920
Um, but

1472
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:20,560
» Soon as soon as the

1473
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:22,080
» The commission changes,

1474
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,480
» The knowledge is coming in, it's going

1475
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,159
to we're going to know that.

1476
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:27,760
» I guess I guess where we're at

1477
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:28,239
» And you're smiling. You know what I'm

1478
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,080
saying?

1479
01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:32,719
» I guess where we're at and what what I

1480
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:35,360
would like is some sort of direction. Do

1481
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:37,040
we want to commit that if if the road

1482
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,480
and bridge levy passes, we're going to

1483
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,760
put and I'll just throw out numbers

1484
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:44,000
here. 80% of it will go to the Flees

1485
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:47,199
bridge replacement.

1486
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,440
Um if we get awarded that grant, if if

1487
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:52,239
not, we're going to do we're going to

1488
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:54,719
dedicate it to road and bridge projects

1489
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:56,000
in Yankton County. We just need

1490
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:58,000
according to everything I've heard in

1491
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,280
the feedback, people want specifics on

1492
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,199
where the dollars are going to.

1493
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,120
» Well, I'm I'm I'm lary about the

1494
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:05,679
committing all the way in on Plagues

1495
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:08,719
Bridge. It's not entirely sure if that's

1496
01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:10,400
even the widest in our infrastructure

1497
01:29:08,719 --> 01:29:13,199
» Countywide.

1498
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,880
Um, but I do want to see like I do want

1499
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:18,560
to see at the least, you know, saying

1500
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:20,800
10% 20% being put away for a for future

1501
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:24,000
road projects so that when we do get

1502
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:26,800
these grants, we're not scrambling for

1503
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:29,360
money um or behind the ball like we were

1504
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,960
with Stone Church bridge paying for

1505
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,880
paying for it with uh yeah,

1506
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,440
» Putting off projects that we had in our

1507
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,239
plan.

1508
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:38,239
» Yeah. Um, but we also I also want to see

1509
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:40,159
immediate ones too that where people can

1510
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:42,080
see that things that need to get done

1511
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:42,960
are getting done. Do

1512
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,440
» You have specific?

1513
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:48,400
» So, speaking speaking with Mike speaking

1514
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:50,400
with Mike uh a couple three weeks ago,

1515
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,719
he

1516
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,960
not necessarily a point so much money or

1517
01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:56,960
so much percentage of it towards the

1518
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:59,440
Flees Bridge. Obviously, that's probably

1519
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:02,239
the next one that we'll get done, but he

1520
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:05,280
said, "Let's do it towards a gym river

1521
01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:05,679
bridge project versus a specific

1522
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,199
bridge."

1523
01:30:05,679 --> 01:30:09,600
» Okay, I could go along with that.

1524
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:11,600
» And and I don't think I'm kind of with

1525
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,520
Ryan. I don't think we need to throw a

1526
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:17,920
whole bunch of money in there. If it's

1527
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:21,840
50% 40% to the Jim River Bridge project,

1528
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:24,159
then we have 50 or 60% that we need Mike

1529
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:26,960
to select road projects that he wants to

1530
01:30:24,159 --> 01:30:29,199
see done. I know he wanted to do the uh

1531
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,960
resurface the the road south of

1532
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:33,040
Lesterville this year. Well, obviously

1533
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,400
we don't have the money to do that. Ear

1534
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,880
tag.

1535
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,520
» Yeah.

1536
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,520
» 50% of that money to resurface that

1537
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,960
road. Then you pick another have him

1538
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,400
pick another road specific.

1539
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,159
» Yeah. And that's where I wanted to say

1540
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,159
is like I think we need to do that

1541
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:49,360
because we need to gain the people's

1542
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:51,120
trust on that this levy is being used

1543
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:54,400
for their benefit.

1544
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:56,480
And you know, I know you really want the

1545
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,639
Fleek's Bridge done, but that's still

1546
01:30:56,480 --> 01:31:01,280
going to be five years down the road

1547
01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:03,520
even on the schedule. So, if we can show

1548
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,600
and build trust on this one, well, then

1549
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,920
maybe that's a that's a case to enact

1550
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:10,239
this levy again for a short very short

1551
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:13,520
term to to build that.

1552
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:15,920
» So, when that's closer to uh reality,

1553
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,960
» Do we want to put a percentage of it

1554
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,480
toward toward basically repayment of the

1555
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,000
Stone Church bridge, too? because you

1556
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:25,120
brought up a good point that we really

1557
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:28,320
did rob the whole highway fund to build

1558
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:30,320
that bridge and you know maybe backfill

1559
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,080
some of those projects that now are not

1560
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,960
going to be done because we had to do

1561
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,719
that.

1562
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,199
» Exactly what I was kind of referring to

1563
01:31:34,719 --> 01:31:39,600
is is recovering from paying for the

1564
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:41,679
stone church bridge with some of these

1565
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:44,000
projects that were pushed off.

1566
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:46,320
So, so what I'm hearing is maybe not

1567
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:49,679
specific, but we're all in agreeance. Is

1568
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:51,760
this is going to be additional dedicated

1569
01:31:49,679 --> 01:31:54,320
funding to roads and bridges? Is that

1570
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:56,159
what everybody's agreeing on? And did

1571
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,840
you want to work together, Ryan? And

1572
01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:00,000
kind of maybe we could I don't know if

1573
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:02,080
we need to do a resolution or what if

1574
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,920
anybody's got some advice, but I'd want

1575
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:06,800
something somewhat official that we

1576
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:09,040
agree on like you said to get the trust

1577
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:12,400
of the people that these are going to go

1578
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:14,080
toward projects in the county.

1579
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,360
» Well, the other day when we talked to

1580
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,960
Mike and I and I says like I think we

1581
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,280
know what our budget is right now and he

1582
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:23,920
knows what he has a road plan based on

1583
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:26,239
what his budget is now. We have no

1584
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,159
certainty on this road in levy. So I

1585
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:30,320
was, you know, my direction to him or my

1586
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:30,960
advice to him is plan for not it not

1587
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:31,600
passing.

1588
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,760
» Yeah.

1589
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:37,360
» Because that's the worst case scenario.

1590
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:40,000
Um, but then if you have that money,

1591
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:41,920
like again, like I don't I don't know if

1592
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:44,000
we need a I don't know if we need a

1593
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,679
resolution or anything like that, but

1594
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,280
for him to make the plan of how that

1595
01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:49,520
money is going to be distributed and

1596
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,679
present that plan because it's not we

1597
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:54,000
wouldn't be able to put that into effect

1598
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:54,400
till next year anyway.

1599
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,639
» Yeah.

1600
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:59,440
» Um, but we want to have that plan in

1601
01:32:56,639 --> 01:33:00,960
front of us and it for the people who

1602
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:01,840
are going to make a decision on this

1603
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,080
road levy.

1604
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,360
» Yeah.

1605
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:03,760
» Uh, this year. So

1606
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,719
» Yeah,

1607
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:09,840
» I I think in connection with uh this

1608
01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:12,960
budgeting process too, once we get what

1609
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:15,600
we want or what we're trying to get to,

1610
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:19,199
we need to work with the department

1611
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:21,440
heads and we need to implement

1612
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:23,920
uh some of that

1613
01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:26,480
uh information that they're in that one

1614
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:30,320
task force is providing on how we

1615
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:32,159
monitor expenses.

1616
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:35,360
Well, I think that's what Brian has

1617
01:33:32,159 --> 01:33:37,360
agreed to do is come in basically where

1618
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,960
and that's really going to help us um to

1619
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,960
know where we're at and

1620
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,639
» And that and that's kind of the

1621
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,639
direction with that clear gov a little

1622
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:47,440
bit and trying to trying to build better

1623
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:48,159
tools for our department heads and and

1624
01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:49,120
us for

1625
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:51,679
» And the citizens

1626
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:54,560
» Keeping keeping track of

1627
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:56,320
» What our expenditures are through the

1628
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,000
year and so that we know that we're

1629
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,760
staying within budget or beating our

1630
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:03,040
budget which is Great. Because if we

1631
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,800
beat our budget, then that's Yep. That's

1632
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,480
going to be more carryover money.

1633
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,480
» Yep.

1634
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:09,480
Um,

1635
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,520
to your point, what you mentioned

1636
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,880
earlier, Mike is getting ready to

1637
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:17,280
present the

1638
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:19,440
» Five-year road and bridge plan and and

1639
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,840
did we I I thought we were

1640
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:24,000
» The direction to him was maybe have two

1641
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,760
plans, one with the levy, one without.

1642
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,120
Are you still on board with that?

1643
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,960
» Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was

1644
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,320
saying. like one without the levy and

1645
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,639
then here's the extra work with the

1646
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,480
levy.

1647
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:35,679
» And I I think that'd be a great example

1648
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:38,080
and maybe we push up the timeline when

1649
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:40,480
because we usually do the five-year plan

1650
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:42,400
midsepptember, October. Maybe we have

1651
01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:46,239
them present that a little bit early so

1652
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:48,480
people can say here's your options and

1653
01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:50,000
this is a yes vote, this is a no vote.

1654
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:50,880
And then they know what they're getting

1655
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,280
because [clears throat] there's going to

1656
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:57,280
be a big difference on what project get

1657
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:58,719
completed and what don't. And uh maybe

1658
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,920
that would even be better than a

1659
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:02,560
resolution is is is that. So

1660
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,520
» Yeah.

1661
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:07,360
» Okay. Would you be willing to, you know,

1662
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,760
speak with Mike and have him bump up

1663
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:12,080
that timeline? I' I'd really like if we

1664
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,880
could get the five-year plan, maybe that

1665
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,719
meeting in the first in in the we're

1666
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,960
really in the next couple weeks before

1667
01:35:16,719 --> 01:35:20,159
when does early voting start, Patty?

1668
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:23,120
» September 18th.

1669
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:25,679
» September if we ideally around that time

1670
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:29,520
or before that. So before people go to

1671
01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:32,080
the polls, they can clearly see this is

1672
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:34,719
the five-year plan with the road and

1673
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:36,719
bridge levy. This is not and it's your

1674
01:35:34,719 --> 01:35:38,239
choice.

1675
01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:41,840
» Well, I think he's already probably got

1676
01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:45,480
the five-year plan done without it.

1677
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,480
» So we can

1678
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:50,320
have it together by the 17th of that.

1679
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:50,960
That's our commission meeting that

1680
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:54,639
night.

1681
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:56,639
I'll get a hold of him and I don't

1682
01:35:54,639 --> 01:35:59,280
» Our probably your plan though changes

1683
01:35:56,639 --> 01:36:00,159
every time we take budget away from the

1684
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:00,960
highway department.

1685
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:03,840
» Well, and

1686
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,719
» But this the plan with can change.

1687
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,920
» Yeah. Yeah.

1688
01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:06,560
» I mean,

1689
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,199
» Yeah,

1690
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,880
» That sounds good for the youth. We we're

1691
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:13,440
all on all on the same page, it looks

1692
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:16,000
like then. So, and maybe just at the

1693
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:17,600
next meeting we just say, hey, you know,

1694
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,199
we're working on the five-year plan.

1695
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:22,080
We're committing to spending this

1696
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:24,400
additional dollars going to you the

1697
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,239
citizens roads and bridges five-year

1698
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,960
plan is coming out and because because

1699
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:31,120
there's still for some reason I you know

1700
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,639
people think that we're not somehow road

1701
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:36,719
and bridge funding isn't going to go to

1702
01:36:32,639 --> 01:36:38,960
road and bridges but that's our our duty

1703
01:36:36,719 --> 01:36:40,960
is to say yes it is. So

1704
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,120
» And thank you guys for your support on

1705
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,119
that. So

1706
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,040
» Motion to adjourn unless we got

1707
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:49,280
something else. Second.

1708
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:52,320
» Got a motion to adjurnn by Dan, second

1709
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:54,800
by Wanda. Further discussion hearing

1710
01:36:52,320 --> 01:37:00,119
none. All in favor? I

1711
01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:00,119
» Oppose. Nay. Motion carries.