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And I will call our governance and priorities committee meeting for monday,
November 10th,

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2025 to order. And we just read the opening statement as part of our special council
Meeting.

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so we'll move to the approval of the agenda. And miss thistle,
Is there anything else for the agenda today? Nothing from administration.

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thank you very much. Next we have disclosure of conflict of interest in the general nature
Thereof.

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does any member have a conflict? Seeing none.

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next we have a presentation regarding yellowknife transportation plan -
Existing conditions interim report.

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I believe we have mr. Patterson here to present. So take it away. Perfect.

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thank you. Mayor hendricksen and members of council. Good afternoon, and thanks for having us here.

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we're here to present an update on. Let's move yk,
Yellowknife's transportation plan.

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so what we're hoping to present today is really an update on progress to date. We are kind of finishing the second phase of the process,
Which is our existing conditions phase.

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so we wanted to summarize what we've learned from our existing conditions,
Technical analysis and community engagement before we move into the next phase of the

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process. So our agenda here will provide a bit of background and context on the
Transportation plan.

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summarize what we've been doing over the past few months on the transportation plan and
Progress to date,

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and then we'll walk you through what we've learned from the existing conditions phase of
Work summarizing the findings of our first round of community engagement and key findings

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for transportation in yellowknife today, and kind of walking through key findings for each
Mode of transportation.

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so the purpose of today's meeting is really to update council through this committee about
The the project,

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the transportation plan second, to share initial findings of the existing conditions,
Analysis and community input as that will inform the remainder of the project.

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third, to build a common understanding of some of the key transportation issues and
Opportunities that we've learned so far through the process.

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and finally, to obtain your direction and input on any directions moving forward,
If you have any questions or comments based on what you learned today.

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so providing a little bit of an overview of the transportation plan,
Which again we're calling let's move yk.

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the transportation plan looks to build on and combine a number of previous transportation
Studies strategies and policies that have been

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developed over the past two decades or so. And really bringing those all together into one
Cohesive document and ultimately a master plan that guides the city moving

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forward. So that will result in one document that would be a single unified roadmap for
Yellowknife's transportation network that will guide the city's investments and decision

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making in transportation for all modes of transportation over the next 25 years.

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so we're looking at a plan that will extend up to 2050,
Which would be the same as your community plan comprehensive update.

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we're looking at creating a plan that looks at all modes of transportation and making
Travel throughout the city safer and more welcoming and more inclusive for all,

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regardless of how people choose to travel. So that includes walking,
Cycling, driving or taking transit.

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we're really looking at providing transportation choices that work for everybody.

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and then finally, we're looking to ensure that the transportation plan aligns with other
Initiatives.

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so with the comprehensive or the community plan comprehensive update and the climate
Action plan and making sure all of these plans are working in alignment to support

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yellowknife's vision of being a welcoming, inclusive and prosperous community.

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so in terms of the planning process, as I mentioned at the outset,
We're kind of wrapping up phase two,

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the discovering phase. So our first phase was launching,
And that was kind of initiating the project.

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and most of our work over the past few months has been in this second phase of work.

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so this has involved some technical tasks and our first round of community engagement.

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so as part of this, we've done a review of relevant plans and policies both among the city
And gmwt and other actors.

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we've done a kind of a community profile that looks at land use,
Geographic characteristics,

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demographic characteristics and things like that. We've looked at an existing conditions assessment of all modes of transportation.

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so a technical review of how, you know, each mode of transportation is functioning and
Looking at gaps and opportunities.

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we've done a jurisdictional scan and best practices review. So this is kind of looking at ideas and opportunities from elsewhere. What are other
Communities doing. And looking at research and best practices.

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and we've also interviewed I think about 10 or 11 different jurisdictions across northern
Jurisdictions alaska,

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whitehorse, iqaluit, a number of other winter cities as well. So we're really trying to learn from some peer cities around north america and around the
World.

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and then ultimately with some of this analysis wrapping this up with an interim report
Transportation in yellowknife today,

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which will be coming. We're just finalizing that report,
And today we're sharing some of the key highlights of that.

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and then we'll also have an engagement summary report from the first round of engagement. And that will be coming later this month as well.

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so really this meeting and this presentation is just summarizing all of these activities
From this phase of work before we move into the next phase,

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which is, which will involve coming up with a vision and goals and network plans and
Recommendations.

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so to summarize kind of what we've learned so far in terms of existing conditions and
Context and starting with how the plan will be developed.

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so the process we're going through, we're really looking to bring together various sources
Of information.

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so as I mentioned, the policy context and making sure we're aligning with some of your
Other strategic documents like the climate action plan and the community plan,

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and also bringing together all of the range of transportation plans and studies that have
Been developed over the past 20 years or so.

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we're also looking to bring together what we heard from our first round of engagement,
And we'll be having a second round of engagement on the draft plan in the new year.

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and then our technical review and technical analysis,
We're trying to bring all three of these pieces together as we're developing the

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transportation plan. And then on the right, again,
Just highlighting the alignment of this plan with some of the city's other overarching

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documents. So in terms of what we did for the first round of community engagement,
This took place between the beginning of september and late october.

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so this slide is showing some of the communications materials and how we informed the
Community about the transportation plan.

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the image on the right is just an example of some of our marketing and communication
Materials.

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so we have a project web page, both on the city's web page and the play speak engagement
Website which had over 1500 views.

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the city has had several social media posts and facebook and instagram and x.

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we distributed materials throughout the community,
A number of postcards and posters and stickers distributed throughout the community.

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there was a press release and then ten posters posted at high traffic locations throughout
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and in terms of what we what we did through the engagement some of the activities and
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we were really focusing on going to the community and making it easy for community members
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so part of that was focusing on holding two pop up events back in september,
On september 16th at the farmers market and september 17th at the aquatic

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center. And through those two pop ups, over 180 people interacted with the project team at
Those booths.

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we also had some online engagement. We had an interactive map and a community survey.

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so the interactive map you could drop pins on at various locations throughout the city to
Identify specific transportation issues and travel patterns.

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and we had over 130 unique pins on our mapping page.

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and we had a community survey with over 160 responses.

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we also noticed, actually, as we were kind of seeing some initial results from the
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that it was underrepresented with children and youth.

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so we actually launched a youth survey a little bit later in the process,
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included, not just parents. We wanted to hear from children themselves. So we launched a
Youth survey and had 55 respondents to that survey.

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and then we also held a household travel survey. So this is a statistically significant representative survey of yellowknife households to
Really understand travel patterns.

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so understanding how they're traveling through the community,
What mode of transportation they're using,

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the purpose of their trips, the length of their trips. And so that will provide really valuable information as we develop the plan.

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we received over 700 responses to that survey,
Which is about 9% of all households in yellowknife,

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which is great. That actually exceeded what we were hoping for with the household travel
Survey. So that'll provide really valuable information.

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the results of that, since it just closed october 31st. We don't have the details of that yet, but those will be forthcoming.

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and then we also held a number of interest group meetings kind of targeted meetings with
Different sectors of the community.

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so all of these pieces together kind of summarize the range of activities that we held for
The public engagement.

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so in terms of the community survey, which is what I'll focus most on here.

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again, we had 162 responses to the community survey.

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over 70% of survey respondents lived in the downtown,
Frame lake south, forest drive are,

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and old town. Most respondents were kind of adult age between 25 and 54.

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and as I mentioned, we did notice we were missing that youth perspective. So that's why we
Added a separate youth survey to make sure we were hearing from children and youth in the

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community. And we asked questions about whether people experienced any limitations or
Disabilities that impacted their mobility.

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so about 10% of respondents identified having some sort of limitation that impacted their
Mobility throughout the community.

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so two of the initial questions in the survey were kind of asking really about why
Transportation is important and what are your priorities for transportation.

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so the slide on the graph on the left is asking about transportation outcomes.

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and really this question is why is transportation important to you. And maybe I'll explain the graphs first. This was on a scale of 1 to 6.

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so one is actually the higher score. One means it was the most important and 6 means it's
The least important.

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so the lower numbers actually mean it's a more important score. So what we found is that improving road safety was the number one reason why people think
Transportation is important,

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followed by improving public health and providing more transportation choices. And the least important outcomes were reducing transportation costs and reducing travel
Times and congestion.

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on the right, we asked respondents about their priorities for the transportation system,
So kind of similar.

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a lower score means it's a higher priority. So we heard that walking was the highest
Priority from survey respondents,

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followed by cycling and transit. And then the lowest priorities were micromobility things
Like scooters and skateboards and then commercial transportation or goods movement.

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so this helps to provide us some guidance on kind of values and priorities from survey
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so looking at kind of a snapshot of transportation in yellowknife today,
Some kind of key facts and findings about the community in general,

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that creates some opportunities and challenges. I think a real unique opportunity is just the compact urban form that yellowknife has.

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really the urban developed area is quite compact,
Which helps encourage especially walking and cycling.

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the map that you see here is looking at kind of walking distances from city hall.

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and so what it's really showing is increments of five minute walking distances from city
Hall using the road network.

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so the darker colors are a further walk, but you can really see a large portion of the
City is within a half hour walk of city hall or downtown.

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so that creates a lot of opportunities. It's a really walkable community. Distances are generally quite short and similarly for biking as well.

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you could really bike all ends to and from the,
Throughout the city within a 30 minute cycling distance.

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that creates a lot of opportunity as we're developing the transportation plan and kind of
Building on the compact urban form.

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we also, of course, recognize the unique northern winter context of the city,
Which creates opportunities and challenges as it relates to weather and climate,

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and particularly active transportation in the winter months. It's an economic and service hub. So it really is a gateway city to the northwest
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and recognizing that the city has a role beyond just its residents,
But also as a service center for other residents throughout the territory.

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and anticipated population growth. We want to build on the population projections that
Have been developed for the community plan comprehensive update,

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and making sure we're kind of considering the impacts of population growth on the city's
Transportation system.

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so now I'll walk through some key facts and findings and survey results for each mode of
Transportation.

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and I'll start with walking. And the map on the right here is just showing the existing
Pedestrian infrastructure throughout the city.

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things like multi-use pathways shown in green also shows where sidewalks are located and
Where intersections and crossings are located within the city.

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and overall, when we look at sidewalk coverage,
Sidewalks are provided on about half of all streets within the city.

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and we see greater coverage across downtown and in many residential areas.

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so quite good coverage already. Most of the kind of gaps within the sidewalks would be on
Local streets.

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whereas most of your collector and arterial streets do have sidewalks on at least one side
Of the street, which is great. We looked at width of sidewalks as well.

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and, and the condition and type of, of material.

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so we know that there's a kind of a mix of concrete and asphalt sidewalks,
And some of those asphalt sidewalks are used as multi-use facilities for people walking

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and cycling. But also some of those are narrow and makes it challenging to actually
Accommodate people walking and cycling as a multi-use facility.

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and we're able to map out the width of sidewalks. And actually most sidewalks are below 1.8m in width,
And 1.8m is an important number.

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that's kind of the minimum width that you would want for two people in a mobility aid to
Be traveling side by side.

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so it's kind of a best practice to try and have sidewalks that are at least 1.8m wide.

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so that's kind of a goal we'll be aiming for. And there's an opportunity maybe to, to improve that or making sure that new sidewalks are
Built to that standard moving forward.

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and then another factor for walking is just intersections and crossings. Those can pose significant challenges for people with disabilities and safety issues.

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things like curb letdowns and intersection treatments and lack of crosswalks.

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so we'll be looking at kind of identifying gaps in crosswalks throughout the city.

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so in the community survey and you'll see these slides for each mode of transportation,
We asked a question about what are your top five or what are your top barriers for each

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mode, and what could the city do to encourage you to travel more by that mode?

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so when we look at walking and there was a longer list,
These are just the top five that we saw.

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the top five barriers to walking were personal safety,
Such as crime being the number one barrier that survey respondents felt,

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followed by a lack of pedestrian facilities,
Pedestrian facilities being in poor condition or uneven that they end abruptly,

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or that they just feel uncomfortable because they're walking next to busy streets with
Busy and noisy streets with vehicle traffic.

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in terms of what the city could do to encourage walking providing more multi-use pathways,

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more sidewalks, more crosswalks, especially those that have kind of flashing beacons to
Improve visibility repaving uneven sidewalks and providing traffic calming.

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so those give us some good direction about kind of what some of those challenges and
Opportunities are moving forward as we develop the plan.

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so similarly for cycling, kind of starting out with some key facts and findings.

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there are some cycling facilities and multi-use facilities throughout the city.

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but there isn't really a comprehensive, cohesive network. It's a fairly fragmented and not very well connected network of facilities.

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there's a number of different types of cycling facilities throughout the city. There's
Some really fantastic off street multi-use pathways like the frame lake trail which is

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great. We have some multi-use sidewalks in some cases,
The top picture on the right here,

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where they're kind of sidewalks but kind of encouraged to be used by bicyclists.

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there's off street the one example of an off street bicycle path and then some on street
Bicycle lanes within the city as well.

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but what we kind of want to focus on is how do we create cycling infrastructure that's
Comfortable for people of all ages and abilities,

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and that's what's highlighted in the text box at the bottom here. So triple a or all ages
And abilities is really trying to design cycling infrastructure that is comfortable for

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everybody, and that really means focusing on facilities that are physically separated from
Vehicle traffic.

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so things like multi-use pathways or protected bike lanes,
As opposed to just painted on street bike lanes.

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in addition to cycling infrastructure, there's a range of other support facilities that
Can be provided,

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like bicycle parking. The zoning bylaw doesn't currently provide guidance on long term
Bicycle parking.

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so there's an opportunity to add in some some guidance for long term bike parking.

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and how to deal with personal e-scooter use. I think that's a question in many communities
How where they fit in the transportation network and especially on multi-use

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pathways, how do we make sure these are safe for people walking and cycling and using
E-scooters?

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in terms of what we heard from the community survey,
The top five barriers to cycling.

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the the greatest barrier was just a lack of on street cycling routes and infrastructure.

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was the top barrier, followed by cycling routes that aren't physically protected from
Vehicle traffic.

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a lack of off street cycling routes like multi-use pathways or trails,
And people feeling uncomfortable cycling next to busy large and high speed traffic.

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and then gaps in the cycling network overall. And then in terms of priorities or opportunities moving forward,
We heard people would like to see more multi-use pathways,

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more on street bike lanes that are physically separated from traffic,
More bicycle parking and end of trip facilities,

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more on street painted bike lanes and then ensuring bike routes are properly maintained
Throughout the year.

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moving on to transit, the map on the right here is showing the existing transit network
With your three main transit routes and bus stops throughout the city.

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so this is and this network, which was introduced in october 20th 20 or 2024 has been very
Successful.

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it's it has very good coverage throughout the city. There's a few gaps in key destinations that aren't currently accessed via the transit
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but overall, most residents live within a five-minute walking distance of a transit route,

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which is actually really great. We've seen, kind of looking at transit data that ridership
Has been steadily increasing and actually since the introduction of the new

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transit service or transit system in 2024, there's been a significant increase in
Ridership.

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so I think that is shown to be a good success. And transit is on the rise. When we look at the three transit routes,
Yc connector, kind of the main east west route throughout the city,

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is the most well-used transit route. And then another thing we like to look at is bus stop
Amenities at transit stops.

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this is things like benches and shelters and lighting and that varies.

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about a third of your bus stops currently have a shelter,
Which is great, but there's maybe some opportunities to improve that,

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especially in winter months when you're waiting for a bus,
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so in terms of the barriers and opportunities the number one barrier to transit was that
Just transit isn't frequent enough or doesn't meet people's schedules,

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followed by a feeling there's limited transit service to get to the destinations people
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transit doesn't take me to where I want to go. Transit is too slow and unreliable, or the transit stop is too far from where I start or
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in terms of opportunities to improve transit,
Providing more frequent transit service, providing transit service on weekends and

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evenings providing just more transit routes within the city,
Providing faster and more direct transit service,

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and providing improved information regarding transit routes and options.

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and then finally focusing on driving. And this is kind of a broad category that really
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but also things like car share, parking goods movement and really just,
You know, using vehicles on the road network.

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so the map on the right is showing your road classification including kind of in,
In yellow or gold highways under gnwt jurisdiction,

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and then in red are arterial roads which are really meant for kind of city,
City wide travel.

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dark blue are collector roads, and light blue are local roads,
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so maybe I'll start with the second bullet, kind of looking at some of the higher volume
Corridors. We had some traffic data that we were using from the city to kind of understand

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where the busiest roads are. Those generally align with the road classification. But busier roads, of course, are franklin avenue,
Kam lake road and range lake road.

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we've seen that speeding is an issue. We kind of we looked at gps based speed data to
Understand where speeding is occurring,

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and we did see some speeding issues on some of the arterial roads and on highway three
Where people are driving above the posted speed limit.

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and on local streets it was less of an issue. But that's where potentially traffic calming
Could be an opportunity.

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but recognizing the first bullet, the city doesn't currently have a traffic calming
Policy. We also looked at seasonal maintenance and just looking at what the winter and

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seasonal maintenance programs are within the city and recognizing in particular,
Sidewalk clearing for snow and ice is only required in the downtown.

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so finally, looking at the top five barriers and opportunities for driving.

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in terms of barriers, unsafe driving behaviors such as speeding where the number one
Barrier to driving followed by people having difficulty finding parking.

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unsafe intersections, unclear about how to kind of use the road or share the road between
Different users.

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and then congestion or delays in terms of opportunities,
This was quite interesting.

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far and away, the greatest opportunity to improve the road network and driving is actually
To improve walking and cycling transit infrastructure to reduce the need to drive.

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so that was a very interesting finding. It was 66% of people identified this quite a bit
Higher than the other choices,

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but the other choice is encouraging people to drive less,
Implementing safety improvements, providing more parking, and improving sight lines at intersections.

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we also asked some questions about how about transportation safety and how safe people
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overall, most people generally feel relatively safe traveling on streets here.

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and personal vehicles, if you're driving, are perceived as the most safe form of travel.

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85% of people reported feeling very safe or somewhat safe when they're driving or as a
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but on the other hand, perhaps not surprisingly,
Active transportation showed the lowest safety perceptions,

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and particularly cycling and walking. People feel less safe when they're,
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so a lot of information there. We've learned a lot of really,
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hopefully provides us some good guidance and direction and understanding of some of the
Values and priorities of community members to help guide us as we move into the next phase

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of the plan. So with that, I'll invite any questions or comments.

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thank you. Thank you very much. So, you know,
To my colleagues, first time seeing this presentation you know,

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I know there might be things rolling in your head and maybe you don't have all the
Questions now. So remember, you can always send in questions afterwards, too. But to

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start, any questions councilor fequet and then deputy mayor warburton. Go ahead. Thank you
For the presentation.

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whoa. What's going on there? Who let the volume get adjusted there?

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testing, testing. La la la la la la la. Beautiful voice,
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okay. No. Echo. Okay. Okay. Thanks for the presentation,
That was great.

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awesome to see some of those findings. First,
Just could you update us on the anticipated timeline for completion and delivery of the

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final report? Yeah. So the next step of the process is to develop a vision and goals and
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we'll be doing that over probably the next 2 or 3 months. And then would aim to come back to have our second round of community engagement probably
In february or early march.

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after that, we would be developing an implementation plan and then bringing a draft and
Final plan to council for approval,

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likely in june or july. So we're really looking at kind of early summer to be wrapping up
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thank you. When that implementation comes to council,
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is it hoped that implementation plan would come with identified sources of funding?

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let's give that to admin first. Miss thistle. Mr. Greencorn. Thanks for the question. I believe the first thing we would do is also
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implementation plan was finalized. We want council and the public to have input.

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as mr. Patterson said. Depending on when we receive,
If we reach the appropriate timing in our budgeting process,

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we would include allocations in the capital budget for council to deliberate on in
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at the same time, we would also be exploring and seeking funding initiatives through
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federal, both federal and territorial, at the same time. And then all of that information would be wrapped up in for council's consideration during
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so we got funding for this. Do you still want to do it? We don't have funding for this. Do you still want to do it,
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so hopefully that makes sense. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah,
That process makes a lot of sense.

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and so I guess I'm just double checking. Maybe this is with admin again.

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is there any budget asks this year for anything to do with the transportation plan,
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year? Yeah. Miss thistle. Mr. Greencorn. Anticipating some of the things coming out.

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there are two. There's an allocation of approximately $900,000 and 25 and 26 or,
Sorry, 26 and 27.

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where, how we allocate that and that amount still remains to be deliberated in december.

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but yes, we have contemplated in the current draft budget that council just received.

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awesome. Thank you. And maybe jumping back to the presenter to a couple of questions.

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I'm interested in the 50% preference of survey respondents who noted the benefit of
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and I'm just curious. That's something that's come up in my time here. And I know there's some real challenges with respect to operationalizing that.

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so I was just curious if you have any insights on if that is something that eventually
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is there common ways to get around that or barriers that other winter cities have overcome
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mr. Patterson. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, that was part of our best practices review and
Jurisdictional scan is to kind of learn from experiences in other winter cities that have

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seen success and have implemented cycling facilities,
Protected bicycle lanes and what that means in terms of design requirements and kind of

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their maintenance practices. So, and we have a lot of experience working in some of those
Other winter cities as well.

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so we reached out to cities like montreal, saskatoon,
Winnipeg and calgary and edmonton.

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they have all implemented protected bike lanes in the winter. And actually,
They've all noted those are actually preferred,

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even from a maintenance perspective, over painted bike lanes,
Because the paint it painted bike lanes don't work in the winter.

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they just become snow storage. So as long as you have a protected bike lane and if there's
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that can actually be a snow storage area. So I think as the plan moves forward,
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what's the right type of facility and what's the right context? It could be some on street protected bike lanes or multi-use pathways.

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I think both have a lot of merit. So I think those are generally what we'll be looking
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and then again, we know from a maintenance perspective those are actually better in winter
Cities that they're also more effective at getting people cycling year round in those

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cities. So. Awesome. Thanks. No. Yeah. Really curious to hear more about that.

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and yeah, whether that's the right, right approach for yellowknife or not. Just two more
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just noting. I appreciate the, you know, the thought of making sure that this plan aligns
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like our community plan, our strategic directions,
And the climate plan was also mentioned up there. Recognizing that we're just receiving

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that today. I'm curious, how has that plan been relied on or used or compared to till now,

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and also moving forward to the completion of this project?

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I'll start with miss thistle first for admin,
If they want to answer first and then I'll kick it over.

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there's been a lot of engagement and inter-departmental work on a number of these plans.

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I'll turn it over to miss white for anything she might have to add,
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thank you. So, yes, for the climate action plan as well as the community plan,
There have been numerous sessions that have aligned and been both with our

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departments, with other agencies within the community,
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but the others as well. So there's a multitude of consultants as well. So, yes, there has been collaboration and working on all of these policy developments.

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you will see when we have the climate action plan in place and the community plan in
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a reflection of similar language and similar goals and objectives,
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but those key goals will be very, very similar. Thank you. And, mr. Patterson, if you had anything you wanted to add.

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I would just add, we have looked at all of the kind of relevant background information,
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we're just at the starting point to develop our recommendations moving forward. So for now, it's really just been kind of making sure we're understanding those
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over the next phase, as we develop our vision and goals,
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councilor fequet. Awesome. Thanks. And just last question. One of the four objectives on one of the first slides of the presentation was to get any
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and I just wanted to confirm that without the interim report or the summary of engagement
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was there anything specific that your team is looking for direction from council on at
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go ahead. Not at this time. It was really just based on kind of what you saw today.

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if there was anything that stood out or any thoughts that would give us direction,
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perfect. Thanks. Deputy mayor warburton. Thanks.

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thank you for presentation. This is very helpful. I like updates as opposed to just getting a big fire hose at the end.

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it's very helpful. You mentioned we don't have a traffic calming policy.

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just a main question or a question for yourself is,
I'm not looking for more policies and processes.

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just hot tip, but is there a way that we're going to kind of address that through the
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is it through design standards like what's kind of the,
Kind of lens we're going to kind of deal with that short of a nerve palsy.

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we'll start with admin miss thistle, and then we can go over to mr. Patterson. Mr.

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greencorn. Thanks, brian. Excuse me. A little bit of a sniffle.

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brian and I chatted about that this morning. I think we'll wait for the next step to
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it could be done a couple different ways. We could fully develop it out under the current
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but it is getting a little prescriptive. The other alternative is that the formal traffic
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implementation plan and have its own assigned budget and have its own assigned focused so
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council sees fit. That's where my where my gut is going.

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but I welcome brian's input on this and how he sees it rolling out as well.

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thank you for that. Mr. Patterson. Yeah, I'd echo that. There's different approaches we can take. Some cities would kind of have that direction in
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and maybe as we move into the next phase of the plan,
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despite the deputy mayor's gun shyness over policies. Don't be afraid to give your best recommendation. But yeah,
Deputy mayor warburton. And just one more thing to add to that. Even if it was developed

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how we envision the document as a living document. So we have a transportation plan. If we did do a traffic calming policy or a safe streets
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or even a change to the design standards that allow roundabouts or whoever,
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I see those as amendments to the plan. So it wouldn't just be its own thing to go off and
Die somewhere.

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we would just keep it active. If that helps. Deputy mayor warburton,
Thank you.

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and mostly a comment for folks this is not I don't anticipate a massive capital plan to
Redo the entire city.

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this is obviously, I'm assuming, iterative as we,
As and when we change things.

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okay, I'm getting head nods. Okay, good. Just make sure it's clear,
Because I know some folks think we're going to spend a ton of money on stuff, but that's

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not my intention, so. Excellent. Excellent clarification for anybody reporting.

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and one tidbit. Sorry, I'm jumping in. Go mr. [inaudible]. The horizon for the plan is generally,
I think we've narrowed it down to 25 years.

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it'll be a 25-year horizon, not just the next. Hammer it in in the next three years. Very good clarification.

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so thank you for deputy mayor and director greencorn for highlighting that. Any other questions from colleagues? I guess just for myself,
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patterson. I mean, you know me at this point. I could talk about this stuff for ages and ages and ages,
So I won't. But I guess just for yourself as you're leading into the the next piece of

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work, what's your biggest takeaway from what you've sort of learned about yellowknife so
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and our systems and what people are seeking,
Like, what's your biggest takeaway at this moment? Oh,

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that's a great question. I think I see a lot of opportunity here. I think with the compact nature of the city,
As I kind of mentioned in that slide, I think for walking.

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there's a lot of opportunity really to build on that. Your walking mode is already very high. I think it's,
I don't know the number offhand.

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I think 25 or 30%. So which is very good compared to most canadian cities. So I think a real opportunity there. Yeah, that's probably one of the big ones.

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I think the other one is like, how do we celebrate winter as we're thinking about active
Transportation as well?

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I mean, when it's, you know, the extreme cold months of december and january,
That's probably not a practical option.

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but I think the lessons learned from the places like montreal and winnipeg show that,
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it is possible to do something for active transportation and recognizing some people will
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we just need to make sure it's done. So kind of recognizing the context of the city and
Considering trade offs and operational impacts and everything like that.

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so it's done in the right way for yellowknife. So yeah. Thank you for that. One last go. Anything?

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with that, thank you very much for the presentation. And that,
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appreciate that. Thanks for your time. Next we have a memo regarding whether to adopt for
Information the climate action plan 2026 to 2036,

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as prepared and directed admin to use the plan for long term decision making and
Investment in climate change mitigation and adaptation.

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over to miss thistle. Thank you. And I'm going to turn it over to miss wade for a brief
Introduction before we start the presentation.

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thank you very much. So today we are pleased to provide a presentation and the climate
Action plan for the city of yellowknife to council and to the public.

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you will remember grace was here back in june giving an update on where we have come from,

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what we were doing, public engagement, and a reminder that all those public engagement
Documents are available on our website,

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on our climate page. So if you want to go back and see where some of these recommendations
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feel free to do that. Today is also the first day of the united nations climate change
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the first of one of the main themes to that conference is cooperation.

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and another main theme is connecting climate action to people's everyday lives.

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and you're going to find these themes woven through the city's climate action plan as it's
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so while the world meets over the next two weeks at the climate action conference,
We here in yellowknife continue to be impacted by what the rest of the world does

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and does not do. We are a small community that is addressing disproportionate impacts.

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our climate action plan is looking to take the next steps from a focus on emissions
Towards additional mitigation and adaptation actions.

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climate mitigation, just as a reminder, are ways in which we can reduce emissions or
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and that's for the goal of reducing ghgs in our in our atmosphere.

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and climate adaptation is the adjustments we can make in our systems that we are doing in
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so now and into the future. And examples of all of these can be found on page 34 in the
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so I'm going to invite grace schaan to present all the great work that she's been doing
And look forward to discussion afterwards.

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thank you. Over to you. Go for it, grace. All right. Thanks. Thanks, chelsea, for the introduction.

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my name is grace schaan. I'm the environment and climate coordinator. And as charlsey mentioned, I'm here to present our climate action plan.

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so I'll start off with some background on where this plan came from.

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how we actually developed the plan and then go into what the plan actually looks like.

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so hopefully you've all had a chance to look at it. So we'll just briefly look at what the structure is before we talk about how it actually
Connects to the council strategic directions.

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so first of all this plan replaces what was the corporate and community energy action plan
From 2015 to 2025.

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this is also the city's first attempt at a plan to bridge mitigation and adaptation in
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and what we've seen over the last 15 years or so is yellowknife has been on a trajectory
Of lowering our emissions.

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we've reduced them 20% from 2009 to 2023. However,
In the last few years of our data, our emissions actually increased 16%.

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so broadly speaking, we've been on a downward trend. But in the last couple of years, we're actually starting to move back in the wrong
Direction. So previous plans such as the corporate and community energy

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action plan included aspirational targets. But we fell short of these targets.

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and the reason why is that these plans lacked concrete actions,
And we actually failed to adequately fund initiatives that would have brought us closer to

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those targets. So this climate action plan instead focuses on feasible and impactful
Actions.

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it includes qualitative measures for success,
Reporting mechanisms and provides opportunity to create targets down the road.

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so while you'll see in this plan, we don't have a,
We don't currently have an overarching emissions reduction target aside from joining the

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federal government and the territorial government with seeing aiming for net zero 2050.

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this plan really lays the groundwork for more action to come.

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and of course, the opportunity to develop some of those targets along the way.

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so what we can see is that continuing with business as usual is not an option.

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in fact, we need substantial additional action to put us on track.

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so, as we all know, human caused climate change poses serious risks to our infrastructure,

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our natural environment, and human health and well-being. And that is why both the federal government and the gnwt have committed to reach net zero
Emissions by 2050.

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now making up almost half the territory's population,
Yellowknife has a significant role to play in reaching this goal.

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so this graph that we see here is for yellowknife's community emissions.

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it's a projection of 2050. Given the policies we have currently in place we are expected
To see about a 23% reduction from

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2023 to 2050. But that leaves us about 200,000 tonnes above that goal of net zero.

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so that is why business as usual is not an option.

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so of course, these emissions have led to impacts of climate change in our own community.

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and some of the changes we're expected to see in the next few years include increasingly
Warmer and shorter winters,

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more precipitation in the form of snow, further permafrost degradation,
Hotter and drier summers which lead to more intense wildfires,

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and other extreme weather events and other climate hazards. So this thus far, we've seen community wide evacuations from wildfires,
Costly infrastructure damage from permafrost thaw,

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and changes to our way of life. So by proactively planning for these changes,
We can be better prepared for the impacts of climate

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change and save money down the road. So acting now will help prevent disruptions to our
Daily lives,

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our service delivery, our economy, and keep yellowknife safe for all.

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so we launched this project, this climate action plan,
In the fall of 2024 working with a consultant who in the first seven

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months completed a literature review, produced two key background reports,
And began the engagement process.

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so our first phase of engagement from january to march of this past year,
We saw engagement with public stakeholder and rights holders through

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the form of letters to local indigenous governments public roundtable,
A public survey and stakeholder meetings with

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utilities and several local ngos. And then, based on the information we collected in those
Sessions,

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we drafted our first set of actions, which we then put back to the public for a second
Phase of engagement.

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and in the second phase, we met with rights holders including yellowknives dene first
Nation and the north slave métis alliance.

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we had a public survey, another public roundtable,
A presentation to true north rotary club and stakeholder meetings with the gnwt,

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arctic energy alliance and several other local organizations.

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and that second phase of engagement is what led to the creation of the plan that we have
In front of us today.

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and I'd also just like to thank all of our colleagues in other departments across the city
Who provided technical expertise throughout the whole duration of this

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plan development and joined us for several targeted staff workshops as well.

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so into the actual plan. So the plan starts off by setting the context for action,
Specifically our emissions data that I just mentioned,

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as well as our climate vulnerability assessment and how it aligns with ongoing work at the
City,

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the territory and the federal government. And then we set we created the set of guiding
Principles that would outline

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our decision making criteria for selecting actions in the plan.

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so these guiding principles are partnership-driven action;
Feasible, measurable and impactful projects;

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advocacy and policy support; community engagement and education;
Resilience and adaptation;

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and community well-being and social capital. So from there we created a set of themes,
Goals,

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strategies, and actions. We have 6 key themes. Each theme has a set of goals that we'll be striving for.

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and then we have strategies for it's basically a pathway for us to make changes and reach
Those goals.

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and then finally, actions, which are the actual mechanisms that we'll use to execute a
Strategy and achieve those goals.

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actions within the plan focus both on our corporate so city owned or operated assets as
Well as community assets.

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so actions within the plan include both direct actions. The city will take opportunities to incentivize and educate residents,
Prospective partnerships with community groups or indigenous governments,

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and areas to advocate for policy changes or resource sharing from other levels of
Government.

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so here is the brief summary of what our plan looks like.

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those 6 themes with their strategies. I'll just quickly talk about the highlights from
Each of those.

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so our first theme is sustainable transportation. And our strategy is there will be to incorporate sustainable transportation and land use
Planning,

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enhance our city operations and services. So thank you to brian,
Who's talking about our transportation plan.

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and here's a little bit of that alignment that we were referring to earlier.

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of course, enhancing that active transportation infrastructure and increasing low and zero
Emission vehicle use and infrastructure.

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second theme is waste management. So here we will be trying to increase reuse of waste
Materials and diverting and reducing waste before entering

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our landfill. Our third theme is resilient and efficient buildings and infrastructure.

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so we're going to be focusing on transitioning to renewable energy sources increasing
Resilience and efficiency of our city assets,

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our buildings and infrastructure, as well as supporting in the transition of community
Buildings and infrastructure,

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and also how we can connect developers, building owners and residents with the resources
That they need.

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fourth, we have our responsible land use and planning theme. So under this theme we're going to increase resilient and efficient land development,
Increase the use of nature based solutions,

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and increase our amount of local food production.

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fifth, we have governance and accountability. So in this category, we're aiming to integrate climate action across all of our city
Departments.

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we also outline here how we will be implementing the plan and how we will report on
Progress.

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and finally, how we communicate with the public and engage them along the way.

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our last theme is community preparedness and emergency response.

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so here we are trying to ensure equitable provision of support and resources.

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we will be communicating with residents on how they can prepare for climate impacts.

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and finally, how we will be supporting our neighbors as they undergo similar impacts and
Challenges.

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so we have the next ten years that we will be implementing this plan.

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and we have a couple key actions along the way. So first is we will be here annually to report to council on our progress of how we are
Progressing in implementing each of these actions.

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there will be regular communication and updates with the public,
And a midway review will happen in 2031.

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the plan comes to a close in 2036. We will end with a final review of the plan and assess
Future needs for action.

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so I just want to highlight how this plan connects to council's strategic directions.

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first of all, this plan hinges on partnership driven action,
Primarily with the gnwt, but also local indigenous governments and community

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organizations. This plan was developed in part through engagement with the yellowknives
Dene first nation and the north slave métis alliance.

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we are also hoping to be able to implement many of these actions in partnership with those
Governments.

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and hopefully this in some small way advances reconciliation.

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this plan also seeks to advance equity and reconciliation by pursuing actions that support
The most vulnerable members of our community.

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and those are primarily unhoused people, tenants,
The elderly, low-income individuals.

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and we can do so by reducing energy and food costs,
Increasing access to clean air in homes and in our community,

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and improving access to more affordable modes of transportation.

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third, the plan promotes responsible asset management through monitoring and budgeting for
Climate impacts and rethinking our design and procurement

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of new assets to ensure that they are resilient to our changing climate going forward.

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and of course, this plan seeks to implement impactful solutions that reduce our emissions
While enhancing our resilience to climate change and make

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yellowknife a healthy, resilient community now and into the future.

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and that is all. Thank you. Thank you very much for the presentation.

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any questions or comments from colleagues? Councilor cochrane out of the gate. Thank you
Very much,

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mr. Chair, and thank you so much for the presentation and all the work that's gone into
The plan by staff across departments here. It's an impressively large amount of work. A

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few questions. I have one starting off with the ever present advocacy notion throughout
The plan.

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a lot of it is to address the legislative and policy barriers that currently exist.

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first off, I'm assuming we're having ongoing conversations with ecc already on the staff
Level.

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and I'm just curious of what more we would want to establish within an advocacy.

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is this political by nature? Is what we're getting at in here,
Miss thistle?

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miss white, thank you very much. Grace and tots have both been participating in
Conversations for at least the last two years.

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year since grace has been here. To understand not just what gnwt is doing,
But what that support is that's being given from the federal government.

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more info to come on that as they're still kind of deliberating their budget. But the answer is yes, and we will continue to do so.

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thank you. Excellent. That's kind of what I was expecting.

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I'm assuming we had a bunch of advocacy in the prior plan as well.

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a lot of this is contingent upon our working relationship with the gnwt.

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and I'm curious, from the prior plan, have they shown any did we have a metric of success
For our advocacy in the prior plan.

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miss thistle. Miss white. I'm going to say I'll have to get back to you,
Because I don't know that it was actually

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a direct objective. So while it occurred, I'm not sure if we even have.

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actually, I'll ask grace, but we may have to get back to you grace.

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I am not sure either, so we will get back to you. Thank you. Very curious, just to see. And for my next one,
I read that we want to establish a committee of council for implementation.

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I believe we had one for the prior plan. Two,
If I'm correct, right?

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miss thistle? Yes, there was. Thank you. I'm just curious,
Being that we want to establish a committee of council that we wound

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down and also establishing a working group, why would we do both when we could create
Something similar to what we had within the accessibility committee that is purely

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operational, instead of just having it more of a committee,
Advisory board of council, when we can just utilize this form of gpc as the overarching

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council over purview. Miss thistle. Miss white.

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thank you. So the options are presented to council for your deliberation.

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this is our recommendation because at a working group level,
There would be different players with different background and knowledge who can provide

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different advice than, say, a gpc meeting could. Ultimately, it is your decision, but this is our recommendation,
Thank you.

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and thank you for that. I do feel more comfortable with having it as an operational
Committee,

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with us answering up, as that will be a level of expertise that we on this council
Certainly could not provide as laymen.

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and then having the overview, but that's my personal opinion. I'm curious to see what the
Rest of council feels about this. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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councilor cochrane. Councilor fequet. Thanks,
Mr. Chair. Thank you so much for the presentation,
Grace and the team behind all the work.

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I am really happy to see all the extensive engagement as part of this project.

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the various methods approaches are very much appreciated and I hope this will continue to
Be the norm for projects of this magnitude and complexity.

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hoping to get some clarification with respect to the two recommendations in the memo the
First is simply asking council to adopt the plan for information,

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and the second is to direct admin to develop an implementation plan.

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the memo states that actions within the plan will be brought forward through an
Implementation plan,

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with the necessary budget, in alignment with the schedule outlined in the plan.

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so I recognize there's actions. I recognize there's a schedule within this plan.

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can you just confirm if identifying the funding sources to back up all these actions is
The only remaining work needed before being able to prepare an implementation plan.

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miss thistle. I'll start off and then I'll pass it to miss white.

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it's not, wouldn't just be the budget required. For example, if you look at page 58 of the plan.

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there's a number of items listed that overlap with other departments,
Other strategies.

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there's, actions are not prioritized. As we've all heard,
The work plan is pretty intense.

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there's not a lot of extra capacity. And so would be also with the lens of when and how
Administration could incorporate some of this work and

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also budget. So for example, expanding the highway traffic bylaws,
Sidewalk snow clearing section can overlap with accessibility.

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it can over, it will overlap with snow removal and budget from public works.

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it could have enforcement impacts through municipal enforcement. So it's a bigger question than just doing research and amending a bylaw because there will
Be people time required as well as budgetary

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impacts if that happens. So it would be more than just budget.

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and then yes, throughout you'll see it partner to provide incentives.

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so clearly those are one to create the partnership and to then fund the budget.

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from most likely hopefully external resources. And I will pass it to miss white. Thank you. What I would like to say is there is budget
Allocated for 2026.

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it is carry forward from previous allocations that have been given towards a number of
Different pieces that were under the community and corporate energy planning,

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plus additional money that was provided by council to create this updated plan.

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we also have staff time that is budgeted, as well as the additional resources.

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and another piece of the budget that does match here is we through half have been granted
The ability to allocate some of that money where climate action will

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support new affordable housing within the community and or transportation to and from
Housing to places of employment.

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so there's multiple pots. Total amount for 2026 is higher than $250,000.

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and moving forward, we'll continue those conversations. And it's our goal that as we apply for funding,
Usually it's a 25-75 split.

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so we will have, we do have for next year our 25% and hopefully being able to leverage
Those moving forward.

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thank you. Councilor fequet. Thank you for that.

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very helpful answer. Yeah. So I guess given all of that,
What does it mean anticipated timing for development of the implementation plan?

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and can you confirm either way, if the implementation plan will be coming back to council
For approval or not?

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miss thistle. Thanks for the question. Yes, it will definitely be coming to council for
Approval.

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and we, it will be q1 aiming for january, february,
But q1 2026.

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okay, thanks for that. Is okay. I guess more of a more of a,

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a approach type of question. So in any participatory or transformational strategy
Development,

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there's always an intentional step where we talk about the roadblocks and the barriers.

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we just saw it in the presentation we had on the transportation update about the modes of
Transportation and people's barriers.

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and the reason that's important is because strategies that aren't focused on actually
Getting around those barriers will just kind of end us up where we've been in the past. So

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I'm just curious if that is, that has been a step in our in our process to date,
Where we talked about why we haven't achieved our vision already with,

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you know, all the work and time and money we've spent and or if,
If that hasn't been necessarily a step to date,

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if that is something that admin can do when they're applying their lens of reasonableness
And budgeting and,

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you know, fitting into efficiencies and opportunities that might already exist.

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miss thistle. I can pass it, miss white, for work that's been done to date with respect to
Review of barriers and overcoming barriers.

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and I can say it's definitely a consideration as part of the implementation plan.

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over to you, miss white. Thank you. I guess first,
What I'd like to say is there's been a lot of success for the past two plans that councils

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previous have had. It's been over a 20 year period,
And you've seen the results being a reduction in ghg.

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so. So don't think that there haven't been those successes because they really have been
There.

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and it's not just from the things that city and our administration have done.

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it's also been some parts of what the community has done. So that definitely has seen results. What we're doing is expanding.

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so ghg reduction is still part of this plan,
But we're expanding it to how do we touch people's everyday lives and the things that they

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do. This is through that mitigation and adaptation conversation that we had.

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so yes, it will be part of that implementation plan as it comes forward.

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I know that grace and the consultants who've provided background information have looked
At this,

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and that will be informing what comes forward to council in q1. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you for that response.

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I'm just going to a question about targets. Yeah.

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I just kind of want to understand more or get some context for,
You mentioned and my understanding from both reading the plan and kind of reiterated again

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today in the presentation was that maybe we did have a lot of success,
But in some of the places we didn't succeed or had some challenges,

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it was mostly because maybe the actions weren't clear enough or well thought out,
And there wasn't always funding or as much as we had hoped.

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so it didn't seem like targets were the problem. So I'm mostly just looking for maybe some additional context on why we're not proposing
Targets.

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01:02:08,690 --> 01:02:08,690
I recognize there'll be regular updates, but,
You know, setting a goal for 2050 I would have assumed that we would want some targets to

520
01:02:17,490 --> 01:02:17,490
know if we're on track to meeting that or not as we lead up to that. So I'm hoping you can
Just provide some extra context. Miss thistle.

521
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:23,610
miss white. So in grace's presentation, she did note that as we do bring forward these
Implementation plans,

522
01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:30,930
there will be opportunity to adjust and or include targets.

523
01:02:35,850 --> 01:02:35,850
but beyond just aiming for targets, the problem with chasing targets is you sometimes lose
The forest for the trees.

524
01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:42,210
and there are other things that are just as impactful,
Not just to reducing greenhouse gas emissions,

525
01:02:49,210 --> 01:02:49,210
like we said, but also how are we making people's lives more energy efficient,
More affordable?

526
01:02:53,810 --> 01:02:53,810
and you know, just overall better in the community that we live?

527
01:02:58,850 --> 01:02:58,850
or, as grace said, and supporting our neighbors and the communities who have to sometimes
Come here.

528
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:03,560
so not that we're not using targets. We are and they will be built in,
But we want to take a little bit larger step back and a little more holistic approach.

529
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:12,200
thank you. Cool, thank you. Appreciate all these great responses.

530
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:19,760
I'm just going to pick up on a question my colleague asked just about page 61 of the plan,

531
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:26,680
specifically action 5.2, a about the committee.

532
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:32,160
and so just kind of reflecting on the conversation that council had most recently when we
Were deciding on how to move forward with the management of the destination marketing

533
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:40,040
office. I was just wondering if admin could elaborate.

534
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:44,960
and I recognize this is a different question,
But can admin elaborate on the purpose of this committee.

535
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:50,080
you know, if council comprised of other partners for the implementation of the plan,
Especially given the fact that the current plan,

536
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,080
like, will have its own implementation plan that will be approved by council. Miss
Thistle.

537
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:02,440
miss white. Thank you. And I will ask grace to elaborate a little bit.

538
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:06,800
so part of it is to provide that qualified expertise as well as local experience,
Depending on the composition of what that committee ends up being.

539
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,160
and it would be to provide a review and guidance or technical advice to staff or
Administration as we prepare x,

540
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,600
y, and z from the implementation plan, which would then be brought to you. So that I think is kind of the function. But if grace wants to add by all means.

541
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:31,920
sure. So in that committee, there's a set of different groups we're hoping to have
Representation from.

542
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:40,840
one big piece of feedback we received from the public throughout the development of this
Plan was seeking council buy in to this plan,

543
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:49,040
and that this was one of several options to see that commitment from council that wasn't
Necessarily felt in the past.

544
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:58,320
however as I mentioned, yeah, we're seeking various diverse voices on this committee,
And it's an opportunity to bring those voices together where they wouldn't

545
01:05:07,870 --> 01:05:07,870
otherwise have the opportunity. Thank you. Okay.

546
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:13,510
councilor fequet. Thank you. Yeah. No interesting response.

547
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:17,670
I'm just absorbing that. I guess I maybe just in response to that response,
I would say I definitely support administration,

548
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:26,230
having whatever expertise they need to get their job done without adding administrative
Hurdles that aren't worth your time. My initial gut reaction is like,

549
01:05:34,070 --> 01:05:34,070
we don't need a committee because the council is going to be approving a work plan,
Which is the shuffling of priorities at a citywide level,

550
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:41,510
which a committee can't do. But if a committee or a working group or something that
Supports you guys and gives you the necessary expertise,

551
01:05:48,790 --> 01:05:48,790
whether it's in the development of the implementation plan or it's actually in the
Implementation of the implementation plan, whichever makes the most sense for you. I think

552
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:56,950
that is good if it works for you. But yeah, definitely a little hesitant with the idea of
Another committee of council because council will have to ultimately decide the

553
01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:05,340
implementation plan. And just a couple, two more questions.

554
01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:10,780
on page six of the memo, it talked about the gnwt releasing its strategy in the spring of
2026.

555
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:16,100
so from an alignment lens, and especially considering some of the comments already about
How much advocacy and other things are not,

556
01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:25,220
you know, solely within the city's control how are we thinking to align that announcement
From the gnwt with the work of

557
01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:34,900
this plan and the implementation plan, just to make sure,
Like, you know, if there's low hanging fruit because the gnwt is going to give money for

558
01:06:41,620 --> 01:06:44,620
something, maybe that adjusts our implementation plan because we can. That's a low hanging fruit for us. So just kind of curious on edmond's vision for how we
Can align that work so that we're not maybe getting out ahead in this case.

559
01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:53,420
yeah. Miss thistle. I'll start and then pass it over to miss white.

560
01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:58,250
you could also look at it. We can strategically advocate,
Once our plan is adopted, for the gnwt to align with our work and or provide budget for

561
01:07:07,970 --> 01:07:11,530
some of the items and that we're going to advocate for. So it could be strategic for our plan to be out first,
But miss white.

562
01:07:15,730 --> 01:07:15,730
and it won't be the first time we've been out first. We adopted the national building code
First. So no,

563
01:07:21,730 --> 01:07:21,730
there isn't a concern. Sorry. You guys laughing?

564
01:07:26,650 --> 01:07:26,650
there isn't a concern with us being out first. So grace has had these conversations with
The wto.

565
01:07:31,210 --> 01:07:31,210
so unless there's some crazy realignment that goes on where they take a completely
Different direction.

566
01:07:38,050 --> 01:07:38,050
I think we're in good standing and good footing to move forward with this.

567
01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:42,090
not just as the climate action plan, but the implementation plan,
So that, you know, grace can present that to you in q1.

568
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:48,650
thank you. Thank you. I will refrain from making a joke about whether we should hold our
Breath about the gnwt changing to the off ramp at the last

569
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,600
minute or not. You didn't really hold back on that joke,
Did you? Councilor fequet. Keep going. Yeah. And last question.

570
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:04,640
just again, more kind of the bigger philosophical approach,
Less to about this plan specifically.

571
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:10,880
but on page four of the memo, it talked about the city carrying out the second round of
Engagement with rights holders,

572
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:16,400
and it included the ykdfn and the north slave métis alliance,
The yellowknives dene first nation.

573
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:22,040
can you confirm whether the collegial government was included or not,
Considering they are a recognized rights holder?

574
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:28,040
miss thistle. Miss white. I'll pass to grace.

575
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:32,320
thank you. Yeah, thank you for the question. So in our first phase of engagement was when
Our mayor at the time sent out invitation letters,

576
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,480
and I believe a letter was sent to the tlicho government. And we just had not established a meeting from that invitation.

577
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:48,920
thank you, councilor fequet. Merci. Anything from any other colleagues?

578
01:08:56,710 --> 01:09:00,430
for myself. I'll try to not be scattershot here. I've got all sorts of thoughts on the page. I guess just going to.

579
01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:06,750
ultimately, the thing I'm sticking on is the difference between the action plan as we see
It in front of us,

580
01:09:12,150 --> 01:09:12,150
and what an implementation plan would be. Because I just fear that the next ten years will
Be spent of

581
01:09:21,710 --> 01:09:21,710
myself, colleagues, future councilors explaining to residents that we have an action plan,

582
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:28,550
but don't go there. Go to the implementation plan to see what the city is actually doing.

583
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:33,110
and so can you talk to me a bit about how to square that circle?

584
01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:38,510
miss thistle. Thanks for the question. We also had similar reservations with respect to
That.

585
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:45,990
we also were concerned that residents would see the plan posted on the website and point
And say,

586
01:09:51,740 --> 01:09:51,740
why isn't this done? Which is why we'll bring forward an implementation plan.

587
01:09:58,180 --> 01:09:58,180
similar to we have a joint economic development strategy with ykdfn.

588
01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:02,940
and then we brought forward an implementation plan. And we had the solid waste management
Study done,

589
01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:09,420
and then we had an implementation plan. And it's because we really need the administrative
Lens put on the recommendations and actions because we have to balance that

590
01:10:19,300 --> 01:10:22,780
about regular balance that with our regular day to day work. The other strategies and work that are going on.

591
01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:25,180
so some of these initiatives are already underway or in work plan or in somebody's job.

592
01:10:31,780 --> 01:10:31,780
because we're doing those, these kinds of things.

593
01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:36,020
and then, and look at what we currently have resources for is miss white indicated we have
Some and where we would need additional resources.

594
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:43,500
so the implementation plan takes that really holistic view and also has to like be a part
Of our work plan because prioritize.

595
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:52,100
so there's a lot of actions in here. We clearly can't do all of them at the same time,
Even in if it's over a ten year period.

596
01:11:01,820 --> 01:11:01,820
when we look at all the other work as I mentioned,
Some of these things will all be underway or recommended,

597
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:07,100
perhaps in other strategies. We just had a presentation from the transportation plan,
And some of the initiatives in the climate action plan directly relate to the

598
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:14,820
transportation plan. There's reference in here to signage that directly references to the
Wayfinding strategy and some work that's currently underway by community services

599
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:24,500
and our dmo. So there's a lot of overlap here.

600
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:29,940
and I think the way we can avoid over the next ten years,
Things maybe not getting done or not being clear is to bring forward an implementation

601
01:11:37,620 --> 01:11:37,620
plan that has budget resources, that has timing so that it's clear when we anticipate
Getting things done as department,

602
01:11:47,490 --> 01:11:50,930
and I can pass it to miss white in case she has anything to add. Thank you very much. Square pegs is a great show. You should watch it. So also everything
Carrie just said.

603
01:11:57,410 --> 01:11:57,410
plus as grace mentioned, will be coming back and doing yearly reporting,
Which is a little bit different than what we've done previous.

604
01:12:04,090 --> 01:12:04,090
so you're going to be able to see you and the public are going to be able to see the
Implementation plan from the beginning of the year,

605
01:12:10,730 --> 01:12:10,730
things that were done follow through and then the next steps for the next year,
It's going to be more detailed. It's going to show the different departments that are all

606
01:12:17,290 --> 01:12:17,290
involved in all of these pieces. And as carrie said,
This is how we've done it for other projects and plans that are in place.

607
01:12:25,050 --> 01:12:25,050
and this, as I said, is budgeted and funded. Thank you.

608
01:12:31,530 --> 01:12:31,530
still nervous, but less nervous. In your presentation,
Grace, you had mentioned that, you know,

609
01:12:38,610 --> 01:12:38,610
20% reduction in the initial part of, you know,
The community energy plan, and then we're back up 16%.

610
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:46,440
so I guess how much of that like, just when I look at those years and you mentioned it in
The report as well, how much of those reductions initially and then the bounce back was a

611
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:54,480
result of covid and then not covid, do we know?

612
01:12:59,080 --> 01:12:59,080
miss thistle. I will pass it over to miss schaan.

613
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:04,800
yeah, thank you. So definitely part of that. Like,
You know, the 2021 to 2023, that is a bit of a rebound.

614
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:11,600
but there were some trends over the whole 20% period that,
For example, like the number of flights,

615
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:18,240
I believe, because we count like turbo jet fuel is a really large source of our community
Emissions.

616
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:23,960
I believe there was actually like just fewer flights in that entire period,
Not just due to the covid pandemic,

617
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:30,120
but yes, that uptick was in part due to the response after covid.

618
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:38,120
and if I could just add one other piece, one of the challenges that we are going to have
And it's a good challenge to have is we're a growing community.

619
01:13:45,790 --> 01:13:45,790
so more people equals more garbage, more places to live,
More transportation, more flights,

620
01:13:50,510 --> 01:13:50,510
right? So all of that community amount, we're going to have to create policies and or
Supports for the community to keep those levels down or

621
01:13:59,950 --> 01:13:59,950
decreasing. Thank you. Thank you. Which yeah,
Sort of gets me to my next question, because it's really,

622
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:08,150
it's a good point and it's a good problem to have. So that's good, I guess it ties into the flight question is,
You know, one of the things that I had a challenge with,

623
01:14:15,230 --> 01:14:15,230
and we talked about at the time when we were reviewing whether to do this work,
Was, with the community energy plan,

624
01:14:22,150 --> 01:14:26,150
was that there was a lot of stuff in there that we don't,
As a city actually have control over, like flights. We don't, we can't control when people are coming and going.

625
01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:33,470
we don't run the airport. Dnd is going to be investing more. We don't have any control over that, which is again a good,
Good investment. That was don't take that negatively anybody if you're reporting on it. I

626
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:39,030
mean that in the context of this. But we don't have control of those things.

627
01:14:43,660 --> 01:14:43,660
so I guess, does the administration have any thought on there's a part of me that would
Love to strip out all the things that we don't have a direct impact on,

628
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:53,140
or we can't directly impact, because I feel like we're setting ourselves up for
Disappointing the community by trying to overstretch ourselves or,

629
01:15:02,540 --> 01:15:02,540
you know, outside of trying to have that advocacy,
You know, impact perspective, as councilor cochrane,

630
01:15:07,380 --> 01:15:07,380
councilor fequet were saying. Does the administration have any thoughts on that,
Like about not trying to overstretch our commitments and

631
01:15:17,180 --> 01:15:20,660
potentially disappointing ourselves or the community and or the community? Miss thistle? That's some great feedback. We could definitely consider that as part of the
Implementation plan.

632
01:15:29,020 --> 01:15:29,020
perhaps there's a way to bunch items together as advocacy or items within the city's
Control,

633
01:15:35,340 --> 01:15:35,340
and items without the city's control or or where we play a role,
But we're not the lead role.

634
01:15:41,570 --> 01:15:41,570
we can definitely consider that as part of the implementation plan that we bring forward.

635
01:15:46,730 --> 01:15:46,730
because as you've noted, there are a number of actions in here that are either work with
Partners,

636
01:15:53,610 --> 01:15:53,610
budgetary requirements, etc. Or legislatively outside of our jurisdiction.

637
01:15:59,770 --> 01:15:59,770
so we can definitely consider that as part of the implementation plan.

638
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:04,050
and for any information on what was previously done I defer to mr.

639
01:16:08,770 --> 01:16:08,770
greencorn because the committee that used to exist used to be in public works.

640
01:16:14,170 --> 01:16:14,170
I won't torture mr. Greencorn if he doesn't want to respond. He gave me the thumbs up. So
Thank you. But,

641
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:18,770
yeah. You'll have to wait now. Councilor fequet.

642
01:16:27,650 --> 01:16:27,650
yeah. I'm just going through the remainder of my questions. You know what?

643
01:16:33,010 --> 01:16:33,010
councilman mclennan had a question that he's not available to be here,
But he asked me to ask on his behalf.

644
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:38,320
so he said regarding action 3.1 a, which quote it says adopt and implement the
Recommendations of the district energy policy framework,

645
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,720
including updates to the community plan and zoning bylaw. His question was why wait eight years to adopt the community plan to include this
Framework when we're currently doing an update to it?

646
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:56,480
his statement was, we have the housing accelerator fund money for planning now and are
About to discuss a budget with money for climate implementation.

647
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:04,400
so if the resources aren't in budget 2026 to include this as in our current community plan
Update,

648
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,520
why are additional resources necessary in the future? Does that clear? Miss thistle, over to you. Thank you.

649
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:17,160
and I'm going to pass it to miss white because she's prepared to answer. Because the
Question is clear and I think I know what he's getting at.

650
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:23,720
the answer is so we started our community plan update.

651
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:28,480
part of that policy development is grace working with muhammad and the team to create
Climate action policies in the community plan.

652
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:37,760
community plan, fingers crossed to council in q2 of next year.

653
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:43,320
then it has to go to maca, to the minister for approval while it is in that process
Stream.

654
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:49,320
that's when we are going to initiate the zoning update,
Which has a bunch of things here.

655
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,840
in order to have a policy in place which will direct development. That's your community plan. Then the regulations,
Which is going to be your zoning bylaw. Plus for district energy, we're also going to need

656
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,720
to look at our building bylaw because the two work hand in hand there. Those are going to need to be in place looking at approval in 2027.

657
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,040
so not until after those are in place does it actually flow out I.

658
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,480
so it is going to take some time. Will it be faster than eight years? Yes. I thought he meant 2028, because that is realistic.

659
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:26,000
so all of those pieces together community plan is already funded and being worked on.

660
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:31,120
zoning bylaw is funded and will be starting next year and then this will follow behind it,

661
01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:35,670
thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I guess for me, and this is no knock to admin because the,
You know,

662
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:43,990
the work being done, it's, you know, it's a tricky one having got it on friday.

663
01:18:49,150 --> 01:18:49,150
chance to review a 60 plus page document, 71 plus actions.

664
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:53,550
thinking about how it fits into implementation though,
This conversation has been super helpful. I,

665
01:18:59,710 --> 01:19:03,430
for myself colleagues, I'm not ready to progress this to council yet. I would prefer to be able to take some time and digest this some more.

666
01:19:06,710 --> 01:19:06,710
flip more questions back to admin. Think about and maybe talk about with admin some of the
Stuff that we were just talking about there in terms of how do we organize what we have

667
01:19:15,110 --> 01:19:15,110
control over, don't have control over before we jump to implementation.

668
01:19:19,790 --> 01:19:19,790
which normally I wouldn't say wait a month and a half to january,
But the reason I say that is when I look at our gpc schedule for the next several weeks,

669
01:19:28,350 --> 01:19:28,350
and then we have budget at the start of december,
My, this is my personal preference, so I'd like to hear from yourselves what you think.

670
01:19:35,340 --> 01:19:35,340
is that we table this item until january, we bring this back,
And we can continue this conversation after we've all had some time to rip into this.

671
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:45,100
and I don't mean that in a negative way, but dive into it,
Digest it some more.

672
01:19:49,940 --> 01:19:49,940
think about some of this feedback that mr. So miss white and [inaudible] have talked about
Today,

673
01:19:54,980 --> 01:19:54,980
and then we can come back a bit more fresh in the new year,
Grappling with this, knowing that there is implementation action in the budget and all of

674
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:03,500
that, but that we then are a bit clearer about what our,
Not just what we're trying to achieve with this,

675
01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:08,820
but also how we're committing to the public,
What we're trying to achieve and have follow through.

676
01:20:13,500 --> 01:20:13,500
so that's my, where I'm at. And set for round two.

677
01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:18,180
councilor fequet. Yeah, thanks for asking that question,
Mr.

678
01:20:23,260 --> 01:20:23,260
chair. I guess initially, I mean, I had maybe the same reservation because when I saw this
Plan that actually has a schedule and actions

679
01:20:33,170 --> 01:20:33,170
in it. And the language of the motion is adopt this plan for information.

680
01:20:39,570 --> 01:20:39,570
I think that all of those three things combined made me very nervous,
Because I think in the past there's been confusion,

681
01:20:44,570 --> 01:20:44,570
and this council has discussed it during this term about what is adopting plans mean.

682
01:20:48,690 --> 01:20:48,690
and I think maybe there's been different direction over the years and years about that. So
My preference is you know,

683
01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:56,930
I'm fine with the motion, with the understanding that this has not undergone the like the
Detailed look from the administrative lens about budgeting and prioritizing.

684
01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:06,010
and that will be coming back to council for approval,
Like knowing that I, most of my remaining questions are about the implementation.

685
01:21:14,290 --> 01:21:14,290
I don't think I have any direction regarding or thoughts on like useful direction.

686
01:21:19,130 --> 01:21:19,130
I think like that admin needs to do that exercise,
And that's where we're going to have a pretty good conversation.

687
01:21:25,730 --> 01:21:25,730
and I would just the note that I had for myself was that,
You know, I recommend I understand that all of these recommendations may not make it into

688
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,920
the implementation plan. So flagging those would be great. So we don't have to come back here and check. And also in a similar to some of the other
Colleagues,

689
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:41,040
give heavy consideration to those actions within our control that will yield the greatest
Impact.

690
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:45,800
because that little chart I mean, I know I don't have to say that,
But that little chart,

691
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:50,200
you know, on page 92 of the pdf that talks about off road transportation is 40%,
But 95% of that is jet fuel.

692
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,400
and we can't do anything about that. So I recognize you guys. I'm sure that's already on your radar. But given that,
I mean, I would like to advance the conversation about the implementation as fast as

693
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:06,200
possible because it might take more than one conversation. So that's fair enough.

694
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,320
I mean, then and again, I want to hear from the rest of you. I would just say in response to that, if that's where my colleagues mind is at,
Then I would prefer to even adopt the recommendation to just be the what is currently part

695
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:21,840
two, not, say, adopt it for information, just jump right to implementation because then we
Get to the meat of the issue.

696
01:22:30,230 --> 01:22:32,430
what? Yeah. I don't even think we need to do that. It's been drafted for clarity, that councilor fequet was suggesting maybe receive for
Information.

697
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:41,190
I don't think that's the point. So anyway, that's,
I still for myself. I'd love some more time to chew on it. But again,
I am but one of you.

698
01:22:44,990 --> 01:22:44,990
so, colleagues, I want to know from yourselves where you sit on it. Deputy mayor
Warburton. It's a lot to digest and we're very busy with budget,

699
01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:52,110
so I am happy to park this until january. I don't want to rush it.

700
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:58,310
councilor cochrane. I concur entirely with councilor warburton I think we should table
This for now and come back into the new year,

701
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:05,990
as you suggested, with fresh brains and relaxed with everything.

702
01:23:10,990 --> 01:23:10,990
and yeah, tackle it then. Any other comments?

703
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:19,630
thumbs up from councilor payne. Thumbs up from councilor foote. Councilor mcgurk. Okay then that's what we'll do. And admin,
Truly thank you for this and getting this on the table.

704
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:27,420
it's as we saw from the presentation on the transportation plan. This is something that we can't mess around with. If we're going to commit to doing
Things, we need to make sure we're truly, from our end,

705
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:37,020
owning what you're putting in front of us. So thank you for the work to bring this
Forward. So that's what we'll do is we'll table this until january and bring it back then.

706
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:42,700
and so everybody what that means for us is don't wait to keep looking at it till january.

707
01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:52,060
our jobs is to post budget, dive in and think about it and consider it. So when we come back in january you know, if you've passed on questions to admin,
We've thought about what are those questions issues we want to grapple with before we get

708
01:24:00,020 --> 01:24:03,980
to an implementation plan. So with that. Oh councilor mcgurk. Yeah. No, we I was just about to close it. It's over to you.

709
01:24:07,780 --> 01:24:07,780
yeah. I guess I just have one sort of final comment slash or and question.

710
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:14,500
because I wanted to echo the sentiment. I really,
Really appreciate this report and I'm very supportive of the contents of it,

711
01:24:21,420 --> 01:24:21,420
generally speaking. And in that vein, I guess because we have our timeline of
Implementation starting in 2026,

712
01:24:30,060 --> 01:24:33,020
there's some things that would be very useful. Good. Like the idea of having those as being priorities.

713
01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:36,780
but if we are going to wait until january to review this action plan,
Will it impact our ability to look at

714
01:24:46,420 --> 01:24:46,420
adding these things? Because truly, I don't want to delay action on something like this.

715
01:24:53,940 --> 01:24:53,940
and the difficult part about this arriving to us and at this time and not maybe even a
Month before,

716
01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:02,580
like prior to this, is, is that pushing it back to january does take it out of our budget
Or it doesn't.

717
01:25:11,500 --> 01:25:11,500
I know it doesn't align up with how we're guiding our budget discussions.

718
01:25:16,380 --> 01:25:18,700
I mean, I think just to and then I'll pass it to admin. But just a couple of things is one, you know,
Admin has confirmed there's money allocated in the budget for implementation to it.

719
01:25:25,050 --> 01:25:25,050
even if we progress it today, the implementation plan is not going to be done before
Budget. So we're still resting on. So there is those elements as well.

720
01:25:31,690 --> 01:25:31,690
but I'll pass it over to miss thistle. I don't know if you have anything you want to add.
I'll just give a comment and then I'll pass it to miss white because she has a suggestion.

721
01:25:41,250 --> 01:25:41,250
yeah. We are happy to have this come back in january.

722
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:45,890
with respect to concerns about nothing happening as I've indicated,
Some of these initiatives or actions are already underway or a part of another strategy or

723
01:25:54,250 --> 01:25:58,050
plan. So it's not that nothing's going to happen. We'll definitely as part of the implementation plan,
They'll include like things that are already underway when other things could get started

724
01:26:05,050 --> 01:26:08,930
and then the budget required. And who's the lead or not. With respect to the city versus partners but I will pass it over to miss white.

725
01:26:13,570 --> 01:26:13,570
thank you. So you can take comfort in the fact that we have a position where it is their
Dedicated job to look at environment and climate action,

726
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:21,960
not just with regards to this, but with a number of different programs that are currently
Underway at the city. The second piece is maybe what we and we'll have a conversation is

727
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:30,720
we bring back the implementation plan whenever we book the gpc date for this action plan
To come back.

728
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:36,600
so then you have them hand in hand. So if you,
If I can request that if you do have considerations as you're going through it,

729
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:42,880
get it to us. And then we'll try to build a comprehensive package to bring back in the new
Year.

730
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:48,000
so instead of just getting an implementation plan,
You'll kind of get all of that together would be my recommendation.

731
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:53,680
thank you. I like the recommendation. And yeah,
We can then talk between council and administration on picking the right date for those

732
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:01,200
things to happen so that we can, yes, see things a little bit more holistically with all
Of the things we talked about. So thank you for that recommendation. Anything else from

733
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:07,920
colleagues? Seeing none. Then that is the end of our meeting today.

734
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:13,840
thank you everybody. Can I get a motion to adjourn? Deputy mayor warburton,
Seconded by councilor cochrane. Have a lovely day.