[0:00] 9 2026
to confirm
[0:06] » and turn things over to Commissioner
Johnson.
[0:09] » Well, let's pray.
>> Heavenly Father, thanks for a great day
[0:14] in this great country. Please be with us
as we uh as we go about the town's
[0:18] business and be with our constituents
and everybody in the community. And uh I
[0:23] just want to pass away and talk about
one of our um ABC board members that
[0:30] passed away, Don King. Uh Don was
retired from Wake EMC, passed a week,
[0:35] passed away about two weeks ago. So if
we could have just a moment of silence
[0:40] um to uh to think about him and his
family
[0:44] as we move forward. Thank you.
[0:54] in Jesus name we pray. Amen.
>> Amen.
[0:58] [clears throat]
[1:01] And some feedback.
Okay.
[1:05] All right. Um, next up on the agenda is
the approval of the agenda.
[1:12] Make a motion to second.
>> All right. We got a first and a second.
[1:16] Any discussion before we move to vote?
Hearing none. All in favor?
[1:20] » I.
>> Any opposed? All right. And next up,
[1:24] we've got a
>> So, sorry, I was trying to multitask.
[1:29] Did we approve the amendment to the
agenda to move the
[1:32] » We didn't We didn't amend anything.
We're not going to amend anything.
[1:38] » Nope. I'm going to read both
proclamations and then we're going to
[1:42] approve the consent agenda.
>> Are you good with that?
[1:46] » I'm good with that.
>> Okay. Sorry, multitasking just doesn't
[1:50] work.
>> That's okay. Listen, I think we're all a
[1:53] little bit flustered with the the
feedback. Thank you for fixing that
[1:56] because it is difficult to talk and hear
yourself talking back and forth.
[1:59] [laughter]
>> Okay.
[2:00] » I think we're all on the same page now.
Okay.
[2:04] » Um so, first up, we got a proclamation
um for Tony Collins Day, which is going
[2:09] to be May 2nd, 2026. I think uh Mr.
Cataline, did you have some things that
[2:14] you wanted to
express or address to the board really
[2:18] quickly before I go into the
proclamation?
[2:19] » Yeah. Uh, I just first wanted to say
thank you um to Will and to everyone for
[2:26] for agreeing to do that with us. It's
going to be a wonderful event and one of
[2:30] the things that we [clears throat]
really love doing community stuff in the
[2:34] high school is how receptive the town of
Youngsville is with people
[2:39] parks that the police department their
stuff and it really means a lot to our
[2:44] kids and the partnership really means a
lot to us. So, thank you very much.
[2:48] » Sounds good. Thank you, sir. All right.
Um,
[2:53] so proclamation, uh, the town of
Youngsville board of commissioners
[2:56] proclaiming May 2nd, 2026 as Tony
Collins Day. Uh, whereas the town of
[3:02] Youngsville recognizes and honors
individuals whose achievements,
[3:06] leadership, and service have made a
significant and lasting impact on
[3:10] communities both locally and across the
nation. And whereas Tony Collins
[3:16] distinguished himself as a four-year
letterman at East Carolina University,
[3:20] ECU, serving as the Pirates all-purpose
yards leader for three consecutive
[3:25] seasons [cough]
and establishing himself as one of the
[3:29] premier athletes in ECU football
history. And whereas in 1979 during his
[3:36] junior season, Tony Collins led the team
in rushing with 1,130 yards and earned
[3:42] first team all South Independent honors
while helping the Pirates set program
[3:47] records in rushing rushing yards per
game, total offense, total offense per
[3:52] game, and points per game. And whereas
Tony Collins 100yard kickoff return
[3:58] against Florida State University in 1980
remains the longest kickoff return in
[4:04] ECU school history and stands as a
testament to his extraordinary athletic
[4:09] ability. And whereas Tony Collins was
inducted into the ECU athletics hall of
[4:14] fame in 2011 for his exceptional
contributions and excellence on the
[4:19] field. And whereas following an
outstanding collegiate career, Tony
[4:24] Collins was selected by the New England
Patriots in the second round of the 1981
[4:30] NFL draft, earning a Pro Boss Pro Bowl
selection in 1983, helping lead the
[4:37] Patriots to their first ever Super Bowl
appearance in 1986 and later being named
[4:42] to the New England Patriots all 1980s
team while becoming the third leading
[4:46] rusher in franchise history. And whereas
after retiring from professional
[4:51] football, Tony Collins committed his
life to serving and uplifting youth as a
[4:57] motivational speaker, mentor, and
community leader, inspiring thousands
[5:01] through his message of responsibility,
perseverance, and making the right
[5:07] choice. And whereas through the Tony
Collins Foundation,
[5:12] his right choice programs, youth
football camps, and numerous charitable
[5:16] initiatives, Tony has worked tirelessly
to support students, promote academic
[5:22] success, encourage positive life
decisions, and strengthen families
[5:26] across Penn Yan, the Fingerlakes region,
North Carolina, New England, and beyond.
[5:32] And whereas Tony Collins is also an
accomplished author who shares his life
[5:37] experiences to inspire others, making a
profound and lasting impact on young
[5:42] people, athletes, and families
nationwide. And whereas the town of
[5:47] Youngsville recognizes the individual
influence Tony Collins continues to have
[5:52] on youth in our region, including his
work with schools such as Franklin High
[5:57] School and the broader Franklin County
community.
[6:01] And whereas Tony Collins life of
service, leadership, and dedication
[6:06] represents the highest standards of
civic contribution, making him a role
[6:10] model worthy of recognition and
celebration. Now therefore, I, Mayor
[6:15] Fonier A. Flowers of the town of
Youngsville, do hereby announce that the
[6:19] Youngsville Board of Commissioners
proudly proclaims May 2nd, 2026 as Tony
[6:25] Collins Day in the town of Youngsville,
honoring his athletic achievements, his
[6:30] unwavering commitment to empowering
youth, and his remarkable contributions
[6:34] to communities across the nation. And be
it further proclaimed that this
[6:39] proclamation shall be formally adopted
by the town of Youngsville board of
[6:42] commissioners on the April 9th, 2026 and
that a copy of this proclamation shall
[6:47] be shall be presented to Tony Collins as
a gesture of the town's gratitude and
[6:52] respect.
Mr. Caroline, I've got uh something to
[6:57] give you for that.
[7:09] » [clears throat]
[7:15] » Never been to school, president. Let me
get some other
[7:20] camera.
>> All right, here's there's Beth. Let me
[7:24] get over here. Yeah. Don't [laughter]
>> I haven't heard anything
[7:39] [clears throat]
[7:47] [laughter]
[7:52] » No, you're good.
[7:59] And uh if anybody would like to come see
him that night on May 7th,
[8:05] um let me know and we'll we'd love to
have you guys come. He's a uh he's an
[8:09] extraordinary speaker.
>> Outstanding. Thank you, sir. All right.
[8:12] We've got one additional proclamation
before we move into our public hearings
[8:17] and that proclamation is proclamation
for global youth service day and it
[8:22] reads whereas uh the youth of our city
are not just the leaders of tomorrow
[8:27] they are the doers dreamers and
difference makers of today and whereas
[8:32] global youth service day observed
globally April 24 through 26 2026 is the
[8:39] largest youthled service event in the
world, mobilizing millions of young
[8:44] people in over 100 countries to improve
their communities through acts of
[8:49] courage, kindness, and creativity. And
whereas the town of Youngsville will
[8:54] celebrate the volunteerism, energy, and
leadership of our young people,
[8:58] recognizing their service as a vital
force in building a more compassionate,
[9:02] connected, and resilient community. And
whereas youth from local schools,
[9:07] groups, teams, congregations, and
communities are uniting with agencies,
[9:12] municipalities, and nonprofits in
Youngsville and neighboring communities
[9:16] on April 25th, 2026 to take action,
planting in community gardens, building
[9:22] garden boxes, beautifying parks, aiding
the special needs community, supporting
[9:27] the food insecure, and assisting at food
pantries among other acts of service.
[9:32] And whereas the spirit of service knows
no age and our youth are daily proving
[9:38] that purpose is powerful and action is
ageless and no act of service is too
[9:44] small. Now therefore, I, Fans A Flowers,
mayor of the town of Youngsville, do
[9:49] hereby proclaim April 25th, 2026 as
Global Youth Service Day in the town of
[9:54] Youngsville, and encourage all citizens
to uplift and support our young leaders
[9:59] as they make bold strides to build a
better future and community, one act of
[10:04] service at a time. and witness where
hereof, I have here to set my hand and
[10:11] cause the seal of the town of
Youngsville to be affixed this ninth day
[10:14] of April, 2026.
[10:19] Do we have anybody that wants to take
this? All right.
[10:28] » Thank you very much.
[10:32] » And uh we'll be at Mitchell Park on
April 25th. for one of those. So,
[10:45] [clears throat]
[10:53] » we'll also have staff at the club on
that day as well to take pictures.
[10:57] » All right, sounds good.
[11:02] All right.
[11:05] that one.
>> All right. Uh, next up on the agenda,
[11:10] we've got a couple of public hearings uh
that we need to uh go through. Um,
[11:16] item A under the public hearings is a
zoning text amendment ZTA260227-01
[11:24] to the YDO, article 8 districts, and
article 9, building and lot type
[11:31] standards. Um, I'm going to go ahead and
open the hearing to the public as of
[11:35] 7:12 and then uh turn things over to
staff to give us a quick update and
[11:40] report.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay, so for this
[11:44] zoning text amendment, this was brought
to us by Brock Fister, who's here in the
[11:49] audience, if you have any questions. Um
these changes to the dimensional
[11:56] standards um are part of our um review
process for any new residential
[12:02] development. Um we look at the
dimensions of the lot um how big the
[12:07] home is on the lot and each zoning
district of which we have them um has
[12:12] slightly different standards. So the
applicant here proposed um a change to
[12:19] the minimum frontage. So, the width of
the front of the lot from 40 feet to 30
[12:24] feet. A minimum uh lot size change from
6,000 square feet to 3,600 square ft.
[12:32] These are all again just for single
family homes. Um and then an edit to the
[12:38] build two line, which is just for fun
hard to understand. Uh it's basically
[12:44] the opposite of a setback. So, as you
all know, setbacks are the distance that
[12:49] you have to have a home from the street,
from the edge of the ride ofway. A build
[12:53] two line is the distance that you have
to be close to the street. So, in the MU
[12:58] district, um, we made it 16 feet back in
2020 because it's urban design. Uh, it's
[13:07] it's accepted in the urban design
community that when you build closer to
[13:12] the street, it feels more like
community. Cars are slowing down. So the
[13:16] request was for to change that 16 feet
to 25 ft. Um and then the last bit this
[13:24] is the part in article 9 um changing a
maximum lot coverage so the amount that
[13:30] the house can cover the lot from 30% to
40% which allows slightly bigger houses
[13:36] um on the lot.
Um, so for staff comments and for the
[13:42] planning board motion, um, staff
supports these amendments because
[13:46] they're consistent with two of our
healthy community goals from the
[13:50] comprehensive plan. Um, one of them
speaks about updates to the YDO to
[13:56] increase protections for open space and
existing tree canopy. Um, and one of
[14:01] them is a recommendation to update the
YDO to eliminate barriers to the
[14:05] construction of different housing types.
Um and it goes into a couple of other
[14:10] things. The MU districts uh provide an
alternative to our single family or the
[14:15] yellow uh sorry one two and three. Um
they provide for commercial potential
[14:21] and varied residential uses. Um and this
amendment as staff saw it would expand
[14:28] housing choice allow more compact
development of homes while still
[14:32] maintaining open space requirements and
residential density standards. This is
[14:37] not saying more density. The density is
going to continue to be seven units per
[14:42] acre as it was. Um, and then another
quick note, the amendment isn't going to
[14:47] create any type of nonconformity. Um,
and we have to just say this because
[14:52] it's consistent with a new law uh from
the general statutes called 160D 601D.
[14:59] And I'll give you that to add to the
minutes because we need it in there. Um,
[15:02] the planning board discussed this at
length. When you make a change to the MU
[15:07] districts, you can see where they are
around town. Um, a lot of that is
[15:12] undeveloped land. Um, some of it is land
that has plans that are already
[15:17] approved, so we can't do anything about
that. Um, but they wanted to let y'all
[15:23] know that their approval was because
they are in support of that wider range
[15:27] of housing types. you know, putting a
requiring a 6,000 square foot lot
[15:34] doesn't allow you to plat 5,000 square
foot lots, which just opens up a
[15:39] different part of the market. I know
that this is very, very technical and
[15:44] jargony. Um, but this is what I've been
doing here for my time in Youngsville.
[15:50] Um, kind of looking at these standards,
what they mean for the town. Um, and we
[15:57] worked a lot with the applicant to kind
of narrow down the scope of their text
[16:01] amendment to impact the least amount of
the town. So, it's only going to impact
[16:06] these MU2 districts. Um, and one of
which there are some. Um, but yes, the
[16:12] planning board voted to accept the staff
report and recommend that you all
[16:17] approve. um noting specifically that
that decision was in support of giving
[16:23] more home choices to um residents and
future residents.
[16:29] So understand if you have questions,
happy to take those. The applicant is
[16:33] also here and happy to take them.
>> All right. Anything else for right now?
[16:38] [clears throat]
>> I'm sorry. Who's our applicant?
[16:42] » And so
>> sorry, who who you're with? Rochester
[16:45] can warrant the the developer Anthony
with contender development.
[16:51] » Okay. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
>> So, um, having [clears throat] heard the
[16:56] staff report, I'll go ahead and open
things up for comments from the public.
[17:00] There's any comments from the public in
regards to the zoning text public
[17:04] hearing. The floor is open. Uh, if you
like to speak, you can. If you don't
[17:08] want to, that's fine, too. But, uh, it
is open for comments right now.
[17:16] All right, seeing and hearing none, I
will go ahead and close the hearing as
[17:20] of 718 and move along into item B, which
zoning text amendment ZTA260317-01
[17:30] to the YDO, articles 5, amendments to
the development ordinance and zoning map
[17:35] and article 7 permits and procedures. I
will open the hearing to the public as
[17:41] of 7:18 and also turn things over to
Miss Garcia for another staff report.
[17:47] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, this is a
quite different and quite simple
[17:52] amendment um to our section talking
about submitting applications and
[17:58] resubmitting applications. Um, this
change would remove the waiting period
[18:03] for resubmission of denied and
subsequent applications because the
[18:08] state law changed and said that we can't
we can't deny applications that are
[18:12] resubmitted. Um, or excuse me, we can't
have a a waiting period. Um so that
[18:20] being said, we support the proposed
amendment as it's consistent with uh
[18:25] 160D-601
um recently amended through INC session
[18:29] law 2025 um to include uh the subsection
which I just described. Um and the
[18:35] change was recommended by our wonderful
town attorney um to bring our uh guiding
[18:40] document into compliance with state law.
>> All right, sounds good. Thank you for
[18:44] that report. Uh, I'll go ahead and open
up uh for comments from the public as in
[18:49] regards to the zoning text amendment uh
ZTA260317-01.
[18:55] Is there anyone in attendance who would
like to make a comment?
[19:01] All right, seeing and hearing none, I
will go ahead and close the hearing as
[19:05] of 7:20 and move along into citizens
comments. Um, I know we had one
[19:09] individual that signed up for citizens
comments tonight, U, Mr. Twig Wiggins,
[19:14] 125 North Cross Street.
Floor is yours, sir.
[19:19] » Do you think you can hear me at this
tone sitting right here? So, I'm going
[19:23] to sit here.
>> I mean, you do. If you wanted to get up
[19:25] and dance for us, you could. [laughter]
[19:30] » I'm coming to try to get something to do
for seniors. Never really I've never
[19:35] been in a senior singer in my life. I
always have something to do other than
[19:39] that. But uh I do want to play cards and
bingo and things like that. Two hours
[19:45] twice a week to start with. I didn't
realize Lewisburg Franklin way for us
[19:50] has a paid state program in a location.
I'm not interested in that. I don't want
[19:57] to. But I'll be glad to get the
refreshments myself. I'm not asking for
[20:02] anything but a place to meet. So you've
got a great recreation director. I have
[20:08] a little experience from that one year
green tangle wood camp my senior year
[20:13] and then I moved to Clint. She is a
winner. So you guys going to be thankful
[20:19] to God because we were blessed to have
this in your I was here when there
[20:25] wasn't anything. We got together our old
baseball team and went to Roseville,
[20:31] Wake Forest, Frankston, and Lewisburg
and played and had no coach, but we
[20:37] never I can't ever remember an argument.
I didn't know why I was betting clean up
[20:42] because I wasn't a long hitter. I was
skinny. [laughter]
[20:47] Anyway, we would like to have Alicia
suggested in here. I don't want to be
[20:53] any burden on anybody. We just want to
come in. And now the women tell me that
[20:59] I bet 15 or 20 are interested. I got
good odds there won't be many men there.
[21:06] But anyway, 15 or 20 uh already.
[21:14] We can meet here. I started out at the
community house. I don't care. But that
[21:19] might be in the afternoon from 1:30 to
3:30. Twice a week. That's it.
[21:25] That's what I'm asking. And I want you
guys to approve it, not have an
[21:29] argument.
>> I tell you one good thing about this
[21:33] board right here, um, even when we
disagree, uh, we disagree, um, politely.
[21:40] So, um, what I would say is, um, there
are some things working kind of behind
[21:46] the scenes that we can fill you in on. I
don't know if you're aware of the uh the
[21:51] new relationship we have with the school
system and getting the gymnasium and
[21:55] things like that. Um there's definitely
some things in the work that I think
[21:59] kind of fall in line with what you're
asking for. Um so give us a little bit
[22:03] of time to kind of like button
everything down and then we'll be
[22:05] getting we'll be getting back with I
mean I think that's pretty fair, right?
[22:08] Okay.
Um Mr. Wiggins, did you have anything
[22:12] else that you wanted to add? Okay,
perfect. Thank you, sir. Um, so that was
[22:17] the only sign up that we had for uh on
the paper here. Was there anyone else in
[22:21] attendance who would like to make a
citizens comment?
[22:25] All right, seeing and hearing none,
we'll move along into the consent
[22:29] agenda. Uh, what is the
what is the preference of the board in
[22:34] regards to the or pleasure of the board
in regards to the consent agenda?
[22:38] » Move to approve consent agendas.
>> Second.
[22:41] » All right, got a first and a second. Any
discussion before we move to vote?
[22:45] All right, hearing none. All in favor?
Any opposed? All right, consent agenda
[22:51] is taken care of. Uh there is no old
business to discuss. We'll move along
[22:56] into item eight, which is new business.
Um item A under new business is the
[23:02] zoning text amendment ZTA260227-01
[23:08] to the YDO article 8 districts and
article 9 building and lot type
[23:14] standards. The action requested is to
approve text amendment as presented but
[23:18] I will open things up to the
commissioners for any questions,
[23:22] comments or concerns.
[23:27] But mayor, I'd like to make some
comments.
[23:29] » Yeah, absolutely.
>> Um, good evening all. Um, I would like
[23:34] to provide some context for this
important decision that's facing us. Uh,
[23:39] preparing for this vote gave me a chance
to study article 8 and look into the YDO
[23:44] and I spent hours at that map. It's
fascinating. But together, they're
[23:49] telling me a story. uh and it's one of a
corridor town, a community where most
[23:54] growth, commerce, and activity are
organized along major transportation
[23:58] routes rather than around a central
walkable floor. Further, it seems clear
[24:02] to me that without deliberate change,
we'll keep moving in that direction.
[24:08] Uh and this is not the vision, as you
well know, set forth in the
[24:11] comprehensive land use and
transportation plan through public
[24:14] spaces, connected places, and healthy
community. The comprehensive plan paints
[24:20] a picture of a place-based town, a
community where activity, identity are
[24:24] organized around centers and there's
walkable coherent sense of community.
[24:28] And I know that's what we would all like
to see. So, as planners, we're at a
[24:33] crossroads. We're envisioning one
future, but I believe the momentous
[24:37] momentum has us moving toward another.
So, staying the course against these
[24:42] prevailing winds is no easy task, but
I'm quite certain that it's accomplished
[24:45] one decision at a time. And this evening
we're faced with one such decision. As
[24:50] we consider the text amendment covering
MU1 and 2. Another look at the zoning
[24:54] map will show quite clearly it's the
pink areas that uh mu these along with
[25:00] the AG districts are our greatest
remaining resources. It's all really
[25:04] that's left. This is our strategic
reserve as community planners. So we're
[25:09] only going to get one chance to use
these reserves. Well, what we decide
[25:13] today really matters. I'm very happy to
see that our planning commission p
[25:18] positioned these amendments in support
of two of the goals from the
[25:21] comprehensive plan. Um, community uh
goal three suggest quote updating the
[25:26] YDO protections for open spaces and tree
canopy coverage. community goal suggests
[25:32] quote updating the YDO to eliminate
barriers to the construction of housing
[25:38] types uh that and the barrier to the
expression of housing types and sizes
[25:43] that are accessible to incomes and as um
Miss Lucius said the planning board
[25:48] specifically notes is in support of the
diversification of home choice. Thank
[25:54] you for that.
Um the proposed amendment offers zoning
[25:58] changes that shift away from traditional
suburban suburban spacing towards denser
[26:02] land use resulting in tighter, more
clustered neighborhood. Home buyers will
[26:06] be offered greater flexibility of choice
and better hopefully better
[26:11] affordability and this can all be good.
I support these changes within the
[26:17] context they are presented.
My concern tonight is not with the
[26:22] particular changes we're talking about
tonight. My concerns relate to what I'm
[26:26] not seeing in existing article 8
ordinances. See, I fully expect that
[26:31] future developers will be more concerned
with maximizing profit than with our
[26:35] visions and with our goals. And that's
to be expected. That's fine. But our
[26:41] role as stewards is to ensure that the
future usage of this land meets our
[26:44] visions and goals. And I'm almost done.
Bear with me. Both healthy community
[26:49] goals I cited include the phrase update
the YDO. Well, that's what we're
[26:55] considering tonight. So, please allow me
to make take things one step further and
[27:00] ask, how can we use these ordinance to
ensure that future development remains
[27:04] true to protecting open spaces and tree
canopies? As per goal three, how can we
[27:10] use these ordinances to ensure flexible
and affordable housing options will in
[27:14] fact be offered as opposed to housing
that unduly enriches large corporations
[27:19] or institutional investor. How can we
use these ordinance to ensure that we
[27:23] see a proper mix of residential and this
is really important if we're talking
[27:27] about trans our vision of a of a place
centered town. How do we use these
[27:33] ordinance to see that there's a proper
mix of residential and commercial
[27:36] commercial usage in these MU districts?
A mix that supports our vision. To this
[27:41] end, I suggest that we direct our town
staff to take a close look at the
[27:44] article 8 ordinances that prescribe the
usage of our strategic resources, namely
[27:49] MU1, MU2. Let's find a way to refine
these ordinances or employ zoning
[27:56] overlays to ensure that development is
in support of the future of Youngsville
[28:01] envisioned in our comprehensive land use
and transportation plan.
[28:05] » Thank you.
>> All right. Any additional um questions,
[28:10] comments, or concerns from the
commissioners?
[28:19] » No, I spoke with Lucy about it.
and we'll you'll
[28:25] because there was a lot of change. I was
a little anxious but feel like I know
[28:29] that it's a good move.
>> Okay. So again, uh action requested here
[28:33] is to approve text amendment as
presented. Move to approve.
[28:38] » Second.
>> Got a first and a second. Any discussion
[28:42] before we move to vote?
>> Hearing none. All in favor?
[28:47] » Any opposed? All right. Motion carries.
Uh item B is the zoning text amendment
[28:54] ZTA260317-01
[28:57] to the YDO article 5 amendments to the
development ordinance and zoning map in
[29:02] article 7 permits and procedures. Uh
once again action requested here is
[29:07] approved text amendment as presented.
But I will open things up to the
[29:10] commissioners for any questions,
comments or concerns.
[29:16] » Well, this one sounds like it's attorney
recommended. So,
[29:19] » um, yeah,
>> I don't want Katie coming across the
[29:22] table if we [laughter]
She looks like she's got her box and
[29:26] gloves on. Move to approve.
>> All right,
[29:29] » second.
>> Got a first and a second. Any discussion
[29:32] before we move to vote?
Hearing none. All in favor?
[29:36] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[29:38] » All right, motion carries. Um, item C is
the NC amateur sports youth sports
[29:44] grant. Um
[29:49] action request adheres to accept the NC
amateur sports youth sports grant and
[29:53] authorize the town manager to sign grant
agreements and all related necessary
[29:57] documents. Mr. Derford, did you have
anything that you wanted to add to that
[30:00] before we
>> So this is just a simple paperwork
[30:04] thing. Um Alyssa went out and got $6,000
to update some batting cages, which is
[30:08] amazing. I really thankful that she was
able to find it and get it. And this is
[30:12] just
well I mean to sign the document so we
[30:16] can give us money
is move
[30:20] » make a motion to approve.
>> All right.
[30:23] » Second.
>> Got a first and a second. Any discussion
[30:26] before we move vote?
>> Hearing none. All in favor.
[30:30] » Any opposed? That carries as well. Uh
item D is budget amendment to recognize
[30:35] NC amateur you sports grant revenue.
Action request here is to adopt amended
[30:40] budget as presented.
>> Move to approve.
[30:44] » Second.
>> All right, got a first and a second. Any
[30:47] discussion before going to vote? Hearing
none. All in favor?
[30:50] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[30:53] » That motion carries. Um item E, amend,
personnel policy, vacation leave. Uh the
[30:59] action requested here is to approve the
updated policy as presented. Mr. Derer,
[31:03] did you have anything that you wanted to
add to that?
[31:06] » Yes. So, um, if you don't mind, if you
can make it retroactive to April 6th,
[31:12] uh, in your motion, that would that will
just make it housekeeping. Yeah.
[31:17] Housekeeping. Keep consistent with the
pay periods. Um, otherwise, this is, um,
[31:21] we've got some turnover, um, as you all
know, sadly.
[31:26] » Um,
>> don't everybody stare at her at the same
[31:29] time. [laughter]
[31:32] And as we're trying to recruit more
experienced people, it's hard to ask
[31:37] them to
come to Youngsville and leave their, you
[31:41] know, take their leave right back at the
square one entry level. And this will
[31:45] allow employees that have longer service
in the North Carolina local government
[31:49] system to earn leave at their u total
service rate instead of town service
[31:54] rate.
>> Okay, [snorts]
[31:58] sounds good. Um, so again, action
requested here is to approve updated
[32:01] policy as presented retroactive to April
6th. Correct. That was the correct date,
[32:07] 2026.
>> Make a motion.
[32:10] » All right, I'll second it. Got a first
and a second. Any discussion before we
[32:14] move to vote? I just want to add that I
work for the electric cooperatives and
[32:19] they're all over the nation. And we have
a similar program where your years of
[32:23] service travel with you and it's great
to uh you know recruit people from
[32:28] within the organization and like you
said it's it's difficult if you if
[32:32] you've got a lot of experience to have
to start from the the round up. So I'm
[32:38] for it.
>> All right. Any additional um discussion
[32:43] before we move to vote?
All right. We got a first and second. Um
[32:48] all in favor. Any opposed? All right.
Motion carries. Uh item F, amend
[32:54] personnel policy uh comp time. Action
requested here is to approve updated
[32:58] policy as presented. Mr. Derper, do you
have anything else that you want to add
[33:02] to that?
>> This is just to give opportunity to earn
[33:05] up to 80 hours instead of 40. So just a
minor change recognizing the hard work
[33:11] that uh some people put in and again uh
can make it retract up to April 6th.
[33:22] I move to approve uh with the addition
of retroactive to April 6.
[33:28] » All right. Second.
>> Got a first and a second. Any discussion
[33:33] prior to moving to vote?
All right. Hearing none. All in favor?
[33:38] » Any opposed?
Um item G, facility use agreement for
[33:43] community house. Um
action requested here is to authorize
[33:47] the town manager to negotiate and
finalize the facility use agreement for
[33:51] the community house and execute all
necessary documents in consultation with
[33:56] the town attorney. Mr. Derer,
>> thank you. So this is pretty cool. We
[34:00] had a community member reach out. They
want to provide some classes for
[34:04] hands-on training for uh the trades and
they were interested in using the
[34:08] community house. And so this is similar
to the concession stand agreement that
[34:12] we have. um with Yacht Club and Butt
House and um they'll come in and operate
[34:18] a training session. Um similarly to the
concession stand, if they make any
[34:23] upgrades, it'll become a property of the
town and it'll uh be credited towards
[34:27] their rent. Um the community house
generally sits vacant uh four or five
[34:33] days a week. Um so it's earning zero
revenue. Um, this is a lower if they
[34:40] leased it for these four days, it would
be a lot more revenue, but nobody's
[34:43] listening four days a week. So, this is
a lower rate, but it insurers some
[34:46] regular revenue house
provides a service to uh some training
[34:52] for for kids in the area. So, that's
pretty cool. Um, we're pretty much
[34:56] wrapped up on the agreement. I think
we've just got a couple um eyes to that
[35:00] and uh we'll be good to go. But, um
I think Oh, correction. It's $1,000 a
[35:06] month. I think so. Um, they're also
going to provide internet
[35:10] at the main house, which will also
hopefully spread out downtown. So, there
[35:15] will be public Wi-Fi on Main Street.
>> Okay.
[35:19] All right. Any uh questions, comments,
or concerns from the commissioners,
[35:24] » just bringing in vocational training is
really worthy. Very worthy.
[35:31] » Especially things that AI can't do. So,
that's always a good thing. So,
[35:35] » all right. Well, once again, action
requested here is to authorize the town
[35:38] manager to negotiate and finalize the
facility use agreement for the community
[35:42] house and execute all necessary
documents in consultation with the town
[35:46] attorney.
>> Move to approve.
[35:49] » Second.
>> All right, got a first and a second. Any
[35:51] discussion before we move to vote?
>> Hearing none. All in favor?
[35:56] » Any opposed?
>> All right, that motion carries as well.
[36:00] And item H, uh, special event
coordinator services agreement approval.
[36:05] Action requested here is to authorize
the town manager to execute the special
[36:09] event coordinator services agreement in
consultation with the town attorney. Mr.
[36:13] Derford, did you have anything that you
would like to add to this?
[36:16] » As discussed at the budget workshop, we
thought we'd give another staff a
[36:18] footnot for contractor to do some event
management downtown and take take the
[36:23] load off the staff. This time we got a
really good proposal and I'm
[36:28] recommending that we enter into an
agreement with um
[36:35] with the uh scoops. I'm looking forward
to her. She's going to do it anyway, so
[36:40] this will just help her.
>> Sure.
[36:43] » All right. Sounds good. Any questions,
comments, or concerns from the
[36:46] commissioners?
>> No, I'm really excited about that. It's
[36:50] going to be tremendous for also for the
town staff. Take that off of them. And
[36:55] Lisa,
>> like they haven't been doing enough for
[36:59] us.
>> Yeah, so much. Um and Lisa is so great
[37:02] at marketing and doing all the things.
So, she's a perfect fit.
[37:07] » I agree.
>> Good deal.
[37:10] » Very much to approve.
>> Second.
[37:11] » All right. We got a first and a second.
Any discussion before we move to vote?
[37:17] » All right. Hearing none. All in favor?
I.
[37:19] » Any opposed? All right, that carries as
well. Uh, reports and other business um,
[37:27] congratulations to Commissioner Brain
[clears throat]
[37:31] for winning the mayor mayhem bracket.
Um, so he gets he gets lunch on me. I
[37:37] came in a whopping second place this
year. I don't know why I didn't go with
[37:41] Michigan, but um, yeah. So I owe him a
lunch for beating me in the pool, but
[37:47] um, it's always fun. I I really enjoy
when the staff gets involved and um I
[37:52] don't know if there's more bragging
rights or fist fights or whatever you
[37:55] guys have going on, but I love
basketball and I love the excitement
[37:58] that March Madness brings. Um
>> petting at each other.
[38:02] » I can imagine. I hate I hate that a
certain team um didn't make it a little
[38:06] bit further than what they did. But um
I'm also ecstatic that another team uh
[38:10] didn't make it uh very far either. So,
um, so in addition to that, the sixth
[38:17] annual cleanup and earth celebration is
going to be this coming Saturday, uh, at
[38:23] Burnt Barrel. It's, uh, the litter sweep
that we've been doing here for a few
[38:28] years now. Um, check-in is at 8:00 p.m.
at the Burnt Barrel.
[38:32] » 8 a.m.
>> 8 a.m.
[38:33] » Did I say PM? Sorry. AM. Um, it's been a
long day. Food is going to be provided
[38:39] by Home Slice Tavern. So, I challenge
everyone in this room and within earshot
[38:44] if you can help pick up some trash, meet
us out there. Um, April 18th, Youngs
[38:50] Fire Department's having a retiree
dinner that starts at 6:00 p.m. and
[38:54] it'll be at Wake Electric. And, um,
Commissioner Johnson kind of beat me to
[38:59] the punch talking about Don. Uh, you
know, not only was he on the ABC board,
[39:03] he was, uh, extremely active in the
Masonic Lodge and was a good servant for
[39:09] the town. So, uh, he will certainly be
missed and, uh, we thank him and his
[39:13] family for for all the time and effort
and all the things spent in making
[39:18] Youngsville a better place. So, um, that
is all that I had and I will turn things
[39:23] over to Commissioner Ask.
>> Yep. Um, yeah, I'm sorry to hear about
[39:26] Don. He was good guy and I'm not a
basketball person and I didn't come in
[39:30] last. So, [laughter]
that's a win in my book. Um, the only
[39:34] other thing is Thank you, Alyssa. The
batting cages really need some
[39:38] attention. So, I I'm thankful for that
and looking forward to it. Yeah, that's
[39:42] all I got.
>> Lauren, Commissioner Red.
[39:45] » Yeah, just wanted to follow up on that
litter sweep on Saturday. It's so
[39:50] tremendous and it's really helpful for
the community. I know we've done it
[39:53] every year and um it's very organized.
You just show up and they give you all
[39:58] the things and a map and they tell you
where to go. So, it's very easy and it's
[40:02] really really helpful and then
everything looks better cuz you
[40:05] shouldn't litter. and I don't even
really understand it, but they do. So,
[40:09] that's all I have.
>> They really do. All right, Commissioner
[40:12] Brain.
>> Looking forward to the litter sweep. Um,
[40:15] for once, my kids don't have sporting
events,
[40:18] uh, so I don't have to show up late and
be by myself. Um, kudos to Alyssa for
[40:24] getting the dollars for the batting
cages. uh everybody sitting up here has
[40:29] spent time at that cage and we we know
uh that it needs a little TLC. So we're
[40:35] excited for that and for the generations
to come. So uh that's exciting. Um I had
[40:40] forgotten that I had won the bracket
thing
[40:45] » Chris
local I forgot to say localville
[40:49] establishment.
>> Yes way. But if I may, can I transfer my
[40:54] uh winnings to the top uh staff person
who placed in the
[40:59] » That would be Robbie, wouldn't it?
>> I don't remember, but
[41:03] » I think it's Robbie.
>> Yeah,
[41:04] » you can certainly do that.
>> Yeah. Well, consider it done. So, all
[41:08] right. Um, we got Campo meeting next
Wednesday. Looking at the agenda,
[41:13] nothing too consequential for us unless
I'm missing anything. Um, I will not be
[41:18] able to make it, but I think uh,
Commissioner Ascu is available, so it's
[41:23] gonna go.
>> Um, and that's all I have.
[41:26] » All right. Thank you, sir. Uh,
Commissioner Johnson.
[41:28] » Uh, yes. So, 11 years ago, we put those
cages up. So, they've lasted that long
[41:34] through snow,
weather, uh, kids, lawnmowers, weed
[41:41] eaters, made through all of it. So, if
we get 11 years out of six grand, that's
[41:44] pretty good return on investment.
uh the YDO
[41:49] um the changes the text amendments we
made changes with that's what's so great
[41:54] about that is we're not always going to
get things right uh but it gives us an
[42:01] opportunity to go back and make the
necess necessary changes when we see
[42:07] when something is not right the way we
did it the first time. So, um, obviously
[42:14] driving through town, you can see, uh,
on a daily basis what everybody goes
[42:19] through that lives in this community
with all the traffic, all that stuff.
[42:22] And it's not going to get it's not going
to get any softer. So, any changes that
[42:26] we can make to make uh, in a more viable
um, reliable, close-knit type of
[42:34] community, that's why most people move
to this area is just because of that.
[42:38] So, anything that we can do as a board,
as a um a town to be able to to make
[42:46] those things happen, I think is a good
thing. And, you know, two years from
[42:50] now, three years from now, 5 years from
now, we may want to drop back in pun,
[42:55] but we have that opportunity. So, thank
you for all your hard work. Um, and all
[43:01] I've got to say, thank you.
>> All right. Thanks, sir. And Commissioner
[43:05] Stubbles. Uh, thank you, Commissioner
Johnson, for those comments. Couldn't
[43:08] agree more. Um, my comments earlier were
intended to be productive and I critique
[43:15] of anything that's been done. I just see
there's a lot going and we only get one
[43:20] chance and and those were my thoughts.
So, thank you for listening. Um, I went
[43:26] to the Miracle League uh day on last
Saturday and wow, what an amazing
[43:33] organization and boy did they do good
things. They're out at Longville
[43:38] Elementary. I don't know if you've been
out there, but they built a pavilion.
[43:40] They built a ball field and they're
about to build a uh what they call an
[43:44] inclusive park, meaning I would have
said acceptable or accessible, but I
[43:50] guess the word is inclusive.
Um, and they are just an amazing group
[43:55] of people. And so I went out and
represented the town there and shared
[43:58] some goodwill and learned a lot from
them.
[44:04] All right. Anything else?
Take that as a note. Okay. Um, and and
[44:11] I've been out there before, too, and and
they really do an amazing job uh out
[44:15] there.
um the parents and the kids and this the
[44:20] smiles on everyone's faces is actually
pretty astounding. So, um
[44:26] it is time for staff. I'll start with uh
I'll start with Miss Katie Barbara
[44:30] Jones. Did you have anything that you
wanted to add?
[44:32] » No. Thank you so much.
>> All right, Mr. Der.
[44:35] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [clears throat] As
you all know, uh I'll never get old
[44:40] saying this. We've been awarded a lot of
money from LAP. The fund starts on
[44:43] Monday. I get mandatory training.
[laughter]
[44:48] So, I'll be at Campbo next week as well.
>> Yes, I'll be I'm not gonna say that.
[44:53] [laughter]
[44:56] » Um I am finalizing the planning director
search. I was trying to move at
[45:01] lightning speed uh for that and I think
I got close to a little bit faster than
[45:05] government speed. Um
the priorities for the new planning
[45:09] director and the priorities that um Lucy
has had for quite some time um have been
[45:14] to align the YDO with the comprehensive
plan as much as we can. We have a lot of
[45:20] guard rails and um changing rules from
the legislature and so we really have to
[45:28] tread lightly. There's some things that
are still up in the air. Um but you know
[45:33] I think uh the statements that you made
uh can be boiled down to we want to make
[45:38] the yo consistent with the comp plan and
the comp plan is the most recent
[45:42] document. Uh it shares the the best
vision for the future and for sure as
[45:47] much as we can again within the bounds
of the legislature um the priorities and
[45:50] next director will be to make the yo
consistent more consistent with comp
[45:54] plan. So, that'll be coming and uh we'll
do what we can as we can do it, keep you
[45:59] updated as far as more legislative um
stuff. So, um [clears throat]
[46:07] on the Northern Roundabout, which will
be constructed by um I guess, uh
[46:14] the town has a development agreement to
pay about $1.4 million to cover the cost
[46:18] difference between a roundabout and a T
intersection there. We have received 90%
[46:21] comments from NCO. So, the engineers are
going to take those comments back uh
[46:25] make the necessary adjustments and
hopefully we'll be getting approval for
[46:31] in the not too distant future. U they
had a call today on what the comments
[46:36] were and I was not able to be on that
call so I don't have a full idea of how
[46:41] much work they have ahead of them but um
they're at 90% so I mean they can't be
[46:46] too far. Um, so look forward to getting
those plans turned over to and
[46:50] then as they're able and as it fits into
their development plans, we'll actually
[46:54] start constructing the roundabout. And I
cannot wait. It's exciting.
[46:59] » Um,
so
[47:02] um finalizing the budget, getting
quotes, and uh getting final numbers.
[47:08] Still missing a few numbers here and
there, but I'm looking forward to giving
[47:10] a full presentation to the board at the
May 14th meeting. Um, I do really want
[47:16] to thank you all for the policy changes
that you approved in the personnel
[47:19] policy. One thing that Katie and I are
working on, we'll continue to work on is
[47:22] a full update of the personnel policy.
There's a lot of um it's quite a bit of
[47:28] work that we need to do and so we're
we're kind of chipping away at it, but
[47:31] we'll we'll have a full policy
[clears throat] review for you all to
[47:35] look at in not too distant future. It's
a big drop, so I'm not going to make any
[47:40] promises. I'll get to it as we can. Um
and then uh actually that's it. So thank
[47:47] you.
>> All right. Thank you, sir. Uh madame
[47:49] clerk, did you have anything that you
wanted to add?
[47:51] » So the last school policy update um was
done when we were meeting in the
[47:55] community house.
>> Wow.
[47:57] » Just so you know, it's been that long.
And I think we moved into this building
[48:02] 2017 and renovated it. We started
meeting in here around 2020.
[48:07] Yeah, it's it's been quite a while for a
good full review.
[48:15] » It has been a while. Wow.
>> Um so when we sent flowers um to Don
[48:21] Keith family, we also um planted a tree.
Um the her family also planted a tree as
[48:27] well, but our tree did get planted for
Don and it is planted close to Asheville
[48:32] in a national park so that it will stay
there. Um, just as
[48:39] everybody here's a tree hunger, I just
want to let y'all know a tree is there
[48:42] and it's good to go. And based on this
map, I think it's close to Chris's, so I
[48:47] think it's in the same area.
>> Okay.
[48:50] » Um, family funday is May 16th.
Um, starting at 2 o'clock in the
[48:57] afternoon. Um, the dump tank will be
raising funds for Shop with a Cup. Um,
[49:04] you will have the opportunity at 3:30
that day to dunk your tax collector. Um,
[49:10] my sister has put that in her calendar
on her phone, so we're going to make a
[49:13] fortune off my family.
But we do also have um
[49:19] Mason Hurt as a coach,
>> volunteer,
[49:23] » volunteer coach, Curtis as one of our
umpires,
[49:27] um, two from the fire departments. Um,
and for the fire department, the yacht
[49:34] club has um, however much money the fire
department raises during their two 30
[49:39] minute time frames, the yacht club will
match up to $1,000 to the fire
[49:44] department. Um,
and the yach club, whoever ducks Curtis
[49:48] will get a free hot dog. [laughter]
>> So,
[49:53] I thought that was going to get
[laughter]
[49:56] » Stephen with public works is also going
to be in the duct tank as well. I
[49:59] believe he's the three o'clock time
frame, but the um time frames I think I
[50:04] believe are already up on the Facebook
page, but if you are gunning for a
[50:08] certain person, you you can look it up.
>> Um we have there's a lot going on as
[50:13] well. Um we have a live band as well as
the DJ. The fireworks will start around
[50:18] 8:45.
Um and we still have the mechanical pool
[50:23] was such a big hit last year. We still
have that. um inflatable mazes. It's
[50:28] It's a ton of things. It's going to be
awesome. Um it looks like we're up to 48
[50:35] vendors.
49 I believe it's 51 51.
[50:40] » So um we're doing really good on the mix
of vendors as well. But that is May 16th
[50:45] starting at two with fireworks around 8.
And that's it for me.
[50:50] » Melissa promised to do something about
the wind this year. So
[50:54] » special. So, the dome has been ordered
24. Okay, perfect. Um,
[51:01] and and
>> about golf tournament,
[51:04] » yes, is two weeks after that. Yes, May
29th.
[51:08] » We'll we'll be able to remention that
before. Yes. Um, looking forward to it.
[51:13] Um, it's always good to lose a ton of
golf balls and have fun uh while doing
[51:19] so. So, um, anything else, Madam Clerk?
>> That is it for me.
[51:23] » All right. So finally for the last time,
Miss Garcia, did you have anything that
[51:32] you wanted to add?
>> Just a few words of sentimentality.
[51:37] Um, it's been a great honor to serve
y'all for the last three years.
[51:43] I was
[51:46] I wanted to be an urban planner when I
grew up. It was a weird thing. Um, in
[51:51] second grade I was elected mayor of my
second class
[51:55] [laughter]
and I was just high on that hour. So I
[51:59] was like, how can I do this again?
Um, but it's, [laughter]
[52:04] you know, I think that you can see that
in the way that I interacted with y'all.
[52:09] I was just every day was such a gift
getting to shape this town and the trust
[52:15] that you put in me. I mean, BJ met four
days into the job at the planning board
[52:20] and we got down to work right away. Um,
I feel like this place has changed me
[52:28] forever and
I'm going to cry if I speak anymore. So,
[52:34] thank you. Miss you already and come to
karaoke on Tuesday night and sing a
[52:39] sentimental song to send me out. Well,
we certainly uh have enjoyed every
[52:45] moment of working with you. Um,
you don't get awards like what we have
[52:52] up here for being the best in the state
and being the best in the nation without
[52:57] the diligence and the hard work and the
effort and
[53:01] pointedly the expertise. So, uh, and you
always brought a tremendous bubbly
[53:07] attitude along with it going along the
longest running Christmas parade in the
[53:12] state of North Carolina and you filming
and being on Facebook Live and things
[53:16] like that. Um, we're certainly going to
miss you. There's a ton of confidence
[53:20] that we have in you. Whatever you do,
you will be successful at and the door
[53:24] is always open in Youngsville. So, thank
you.
[53:30] Um,
[53:39] All right. Uh no other comments from
staff. We'll move along. Um there is uh
[53:44] no need to go into close session for
tonight. So next up on the agenda is uh
[53:49] adjournment. Do I hear a motion to
adjurnn?
[53:53] » Move to adjurnn.
>> Second.
[53:55] » Got a first and a second. Any discussion
before we move to vote? Hear none. All
[53:58] in favor?
>> I opposed. All right. We offer
[54:02] adjourning.