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All right, thank you. I am going to call the regular meeting of the town council to order

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on March 21st at 3 o'clock p.m. And Eddie, can we get a roll call, please?

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Yes, Mayor. Council Member Reeves.

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Here.

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Council Member McKee Kent.

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Here.

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Council Member Tripp.

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Here.

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Vice Mayor Knight.

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Here.

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Mayor Moeller.

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Here. And now if we could all stand and say the Pledge of Allegiance, and I would like our

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our town manager to lead us in the pledge.

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To

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the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one God, individual.

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Thank you very much.

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And now it's time to adopt today's agenda.

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Is there, do we have any public comment on the adoption?

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Seeing none, can we get a motion and a second from the council?

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I move adoption of today's agenda.

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I second.

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Okay, we have a motion by council member Knight

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and a second by council member McKee Cantt.

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Council member McKee Cantt, will you mind pressing

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the second?

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Do you have it?

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I can press it for you.

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Okay.

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And now we're going to vote.

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I think mine says voting not available.

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Should I read?

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I do it?

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Oh, there we go.

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Council Member McKee, are you also not getting the vote on your system?

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I voted yay, but I'm in the waiting mode.

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If it

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was moved, I will refresh it again.

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I'm missing Mayor and Council Member Weaves.

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I voted. I'm sorry. Mine says waiting. We like to have voice. Yeah, maybe just, yeah,

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maybe do a roll call. Okay. Council Member Reeves. Yes. Council Member

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Mike, you can't. Yes. Council Member Tripp. Yes. Vice Mayor Knight. Yes. Mayor Moeller.

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Yes. That passes unanimously to adopted today's agenda. The next item is

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proclamation and recognition. And it is my great pleasure to be recognizing

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the Town Manager and Steve Rogers. So if you could meet me at the podium.

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Thank you

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very much. So this is a proclamation recognizing Town Manager Steve Rogers.

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Don't cry because I'm going to cry.

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For a lifetime achievement in public service, whereas Steve Rogers was hired at Yonfills

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as Yonfills Town Manager in October 2007 and moved into town shortly thereafter.

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Steve has become an integral part of the community, both as a local resident and as

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Town Manager.

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manager, and whereas Steve served as the longest tenured town manager in Yonphil and Napa County.

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During Steve's 37 years of public service career, he also served as general manager CEO for

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the North Tahoe Public Utilities District, assistant city manager in San Bruno, assistant

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to the city administrator in the cities of Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Santa Paula, California,

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and administrative service director in Indio, California, and whereas Steve has maintained

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strong professional affiliations with public sector organizations during his career and

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is an International City-County Management Association Credential Manager.

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Steve has represented the town at the California Intergovernmental Risk Authority as treasurer,

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the Regional Governmental Services Joint Powers Authority, and the League of California

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Cities, including as an appointee to policy committees and as an officer in the City

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President in 2020 to 2021 and whereas Steve has been an inspirational leader

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to town staff and the community alike. In 2023 Steve received the League of

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California City's West McClure Award of Distinction honoring his outstanding

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career of service leadership ethics expertise and innovation and whereas

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As Steve was instrumental in advancing the town's fiscal health with balanced budgets

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and the establishment of reserve funds, as well as the creation of the Napa County Tourism

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Improvement District.

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He also has played critical roles in drafting impactful local ordinances, resolutions, and

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other governmental actions that will create a legacy of his leadership throughout the

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Napa Valley and the state of California.

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And whereas in his capacity as town manager,

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he has been a mentor to staff

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and inspired professional development

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and a culture of continuous learning.

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In turn, his leadership has fostered

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a dedicated and empowered team of employees

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who value high level service delivery to the community

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and take pride in their work.

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and whereas throughout Steve's career he has met adversity with fortitude and

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resilience. Steve's helped lead the town through natural disasters, the global

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COVID-19 pandemic, a devastating mass shooting, and other local emergencies

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during his tenure as town manager. And whereas Steve consistently goes above

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and beyond for the residents and the businesses of Yonphil which led him to

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be named Yonphil Chamber of Commerce citizen of the year in 2012 and whereas

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Steve demonstrated his personal dedication to Yonphil and the Napa

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Valley through his volunteerism with the Yonphil Chamber of Commerce, Yonphil

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School Foundation, Yonphil Kiwanis Club and the leadership Napa Valley

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program. And now, therefore, let it be resolved that I, Margie Moeller, Mayor, on behalf of

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the Town Council, Town staff, and our community, express our sincere appreciation to Steve

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Rogers for a lifetime of achievement over the course of his outstanding public service

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his career. One more thing.

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We didn't want you to have to hang something on the wall.

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So we would like to present to you this really beautiful momentum, the momentum of our, this

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personal thing. It says the town of Yamphill presents this Lifetime Achievement Award

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The Steve Rogers Down Manager, 2007 to 2023, with gratitude for its exceptional service.

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Most of you know I'm not generally at a loss of words, but I am going to say that I'm incredibly honored, humbled, and it's been a real privilege.

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I don't know that if I look back in October of 2007, if I would have anticipated 15 and

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a half years of living and working in this community, but I'd like to think that's the

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one thing I got right for sure.

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So with that, thank you so much.

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It's an incredible honor, as I said.

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I did do an interesting little bit of math.

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In that tenure, I've worked with 15 different council members and over 70 different

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boards and commission members and I really want to acknowledge the key that

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makes us all work the employee team here. Then my real privilege to work with the

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outstanding men and women that we brought in that to do the day in the day

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out work sometimes it's easy for us up here to look at it and see what we're

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doing but really need to acknowledge the folks that here working for the

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for the town team that do what they do day in and day out. So thank you

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very much again, and I look forward to enjoying what everybody else that lives in the Elmville does as I continue to live here.

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Thank you again.

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One last little surprise. We're going to take a recess until for 20 minutes and have a little reception.

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I think staff has some little food bites they'd like to bring in.

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So this is a very special meeting for everyone who came and had maybe for a different reason.

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Now we're going to have a little party so always want to verify the refreshments will be outside in the hall

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They'll be outside in the hall and you can have

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Opportunity to come and talk to Steve. So enjoy. We'll be back here

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Let's see at

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Let's say 330

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Okay, we're back. So thank you, everybody. I'm glad you had a couple snacks and had a

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little opportunity to talk to our town manager, his last meeting tonight. So thanks. Congratulations,

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Steve. Now we are moving on to public comment. This is the portion where you can give public

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comment on anything that is not on today's agenda. And I'll go to Eddie first. Do we

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Do we receive public comment on something not on the agenda?

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No, ma'am.

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Is there anybody in the public who would like to come up to the microphone and speak?

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Just state your name for the record.

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Alan Tensher and also Carrie Hayes could not make it this evening and

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asked me to share with you all our thoughts and appreciations.

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Four weeks ago today, Carrie and I suggested that there was an opportunity for

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the town to receive grant money to streamline the

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The solar building permit application process here in town. This process in some jurisdictions

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can take weeks or days, and we had understood that that software program or implementation

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of alternative software could shorten that timeframe to minutes and thereby make the implementation

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of solar PV on residences and businesses, more streamlined and more easy to get that

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important technology out. We had heard about that grant from a solar advocacy group. Imagine

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how pleased we were late last week that Yonville had received $40,000 in grant money

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to implement SolarAPP Plus, software or the equivalent.

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We want to thank the council.

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We want to thank town manager Rogers and staff for moving forward

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and taking advantage of this opportunity

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and more importantly improving town service and saving town staff time.

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Hopefully it will go live in the near future.

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Now, we know the town has very professional media capabilities of their own, but the Development

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Director for the Solar Advocacy Group has extended the offer to collaborate with council

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or staff on developing a press release to get additional positive press about Yantville's

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innovation.

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So anyway, from us, thank you very much.

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We appreciate it.

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Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments? Can you state your name for

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the record, please?

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Good afternoon, Council Mayor Jeff Derm from

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Yonge Street. There was a town council workshop yesterday which was attended by all of you

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and all of the town staff as well. The meeting was not recorded as it was a study

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session and I was the only member of the public to attend. There was a specific agenda item

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of council meeting protocols and this topic included much discussion from all of you on

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how the council will run a meeting and how the public can participate. So I stand here

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to get information out to our community because they need to be aware of yesterday's conversation

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and be a part of this process.

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Yonfield Town protocols were presented

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and also a second copy that was heavily edited

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and redlined what's also submitted.

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Apparently Council Member Tripp

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and Vice Mayor Knight took it upon themselves

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to make these edit changes.

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The changes were not asked for

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nor directed by the Council.

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No town staff was involved.

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The town attorney was not involved

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and I can only assume that because this was

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an agendized item at a public meeting that they did not talk to any other council members

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because we all know that would be a direct violation of the Brown Act.

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Items have been added that will one, give the minority a say over the majority, and

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two, not allow the mayor to run a meeting or operate daily for our community effectively.

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Transparency, increased community involvement, civility.

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None of that was present yesterday at the meeting.

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But those words were used a lot during this last election season and on this dais.

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After hearing their discussion yesterday, it became clear that the past is a big concern

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for Councilmember's trip and Vice-Mair Knight.

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But because you don't understand the history or feel that you did not get the attention

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you deserved does not mean the protocol should be redlined and aggressively changed.

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So, I want the community to ask for a copy of this red line document.

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There are 531 changes.

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And as Council Member Tripp said at the meeting yesterday that they, quote, didn't think we

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were forging too far ahead.

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How will these suggestions make our community better?

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There are definite trust issues and a lack of clarity and clear intent.

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How will this generate more engagement by the residents?

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How will this improve the council as a policy-making body?

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Contact Councilmember Tripp and Vice Mayor Knight to get a copy of this document.

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Be careful what you ask for now.

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Simply because it fits your narrative.

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Probably won't work in two years when there is a different narrative.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your comments.

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Would anybody else like to comment on anything not on today's agenda?

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see no further comment we will move to the consent calendar and before we

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discuss that Vice Mayor Knight would you like to make a statement. Thank you Mayor.

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After reviewing our conflict conflict of interest maps and discussing with the

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attorney, I have a conflict of interest for item 7C, which is the discussion item or consent

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item approving the tree removal permit application for the automobile community church, and we'll

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be recusing myself from that vote.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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So why don't we take a vote on consent calendar items A, B, D, E, and F, and then we'll come

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back and take a separate vote on consent item C. So do we have any public comment on the

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consent calendar?

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No, Mayor.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Anybody in the audience would like to make any, is there a copy of the agenda?

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One second, we'll get that.

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I can list them, Mayor.

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Would you allow me to?

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Please.

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Would you allow me to call the items on the consent counter?

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Yes, please.

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That would be very helpful.

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So we have the second reading and adoption of ordinance number 23-518.

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We have resolution number 23-4192, opposing initiative number 21-0042A1, the Taxpayer Protection

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and Government Accountability Act.

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We have C, adopt resolution number 23-4193, approving the true removal permit application

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for the Yangville Community Church, 6621 Yang Street, APN 036-053-002 to permit the removal

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of approximately 33.5 inches DBH valley oak tree located at the north end of the property.

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The adoption of resolution number 23-4194 authorizing the filing of a notice of completion

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and accepting the work of for the repair roofs on both shelters project CF-0026

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performed by Antonio's roofing for a total contract amount of $44,900. We

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have E continued emergency declaration for the town of Yambiel recycle water

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transmission main repair pursuant to Yambiel municipal code 3.32.390

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and F, monthly financial reports for February 2023.

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Thank you.

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If you might like to make a comment, please come to the podium.

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We just did that.

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So right now we're taking public comment on the consent calendar.

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But if you misunderstood and you, please, I'll make an exception come up and make your comment.

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I'm Jeannie Tidal and I live at 28 Worcester Lane and my comment is about the proposed changes of the green spaces.

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That is on the agenda later, so I'll make sure you know.

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As soon as we get to that, I'm going to be very clear how we're going to go.

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Please hold that thought.

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I got it.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay, so seeing no comment on the consent calendar, can we get a motion to approve consent

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calendars items 7A, B, D, E, and F?

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I will move that.

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We have a motion.

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Do we have a second?

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I will second.

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Okay, we have a motion by Council Member Tripp and a second by Council Member McKee-Cant.

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Our screens are coming up.

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And now we will vote.

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Did all members receive the screen to vote?

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Yeah?

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I'll miss it.

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I'll leave.

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Vice Mayor, your night.

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Excuse me?

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Oh, that's right.

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You're sorry.

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You're excused from this one.

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Apologies.

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Apologies.

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We are voting right now on Construct Calendar Items, A, B, D, E, and F.

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Thank you.

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Is everybody voting?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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So that carries unanimously, and by all five council members, thank you for that.

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Now we will take a separate vote on item 7C.

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This is approving the Tree Removal Permit Application for the Yonphill Community Church at 6621 Yonth Street to permit the removal of

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the approximately 30 and a half inch

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Valley Oak Tree located on the north end of the property.

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Do we have a motion for Consent Item C, 7C?

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I'll go ahead and make that motion.

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We have a motion and a second a

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second we have a motion by councilmember McKee

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Kent and a second by councilmember Reeves.

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Councilmember McKee Kent did not

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I was still stuck on last one so that should do it

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yeah will you let me to

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record you vote we spoke just

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as waiting I apologize it today let me

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Do we open it one more time?

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Did you show up this time?

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does not say moved by me.

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There we go.

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Pam and I are showing up.

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Technology is not always fast.

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When it's good, it's really good.

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All right, so that item, the consent calendar item 7C

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passes unanimously 4-0.

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Thank you very much.

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Now we are going to have a presentation.

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and self-introduction of the new Yonphil Sun staff.

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So who is coming?

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Hi, Mark.

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Well, counsel, Mark Hand, Yonphil resident,

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and so appreciative of the opportunity to come talk to you all

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and formally meet you.

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And honored to be here for sort of the celebration of Steve

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and so great to be able to participate in that, too.

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So just wanted to briefly tell you about Highway 29, the new owners of the sun,

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and we did close early in March, and then also be able to introduce you to the other people that are here.

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So I'm one of the co-founders and board members, and Larry Camber is another board member and co-founder.

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And then Kim Beltran is the editor and the Yonphil resident, and then Julie Mitchell is the other reporter here.

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So we're pleased to have really two full-time reporting and editing staff here.

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And as you all probably know, at the same month that Sharon announced that she was going to either sell or close the sun,

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Pat and Ramona in Calistoga announced the same thing.

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So I met with both of them at the same time.

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And then over the last few months, we've put together all the pieces and assembled the Public Benefit Corporation, Highway 29,

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which is the the owner of both the publications and so we're now publishing both and have

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editors, reporters, production people, and our publisher, Bruce Keys, who used to be the publisher

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of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. So we're assembling all the pieces for this and had our

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first official board meeting this last month and as I were thrilled and as I was telling

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council member night we're at the crawling stage but even every week it's

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improving and just a couple of highlights because people always ask are we

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going to keep printing the paper yes and we are and because otherwise there'll be

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a lot of angry people assembled in front of my house and and that's good news

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we're also bringing them into the more the modern age so we have the the

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websites I'm close to being up and running and soon after that we'll be

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able to distribute digital versions of the newspaper so you can sign up by putting in

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your email and be able to get a digital version.

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So we're doing that and then you all probably know we're having a celebration of the sun

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at the community center on April 7th and that's the good news.

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The bad news is it's already sold out so if you haven't signed up unfortunately

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And there's no additional room, but I figure why just celebrate one, so we'll continue celebrating.

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But mostly, just wanted to be able to get any questions from you all and know that we're

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really focused on sort of the whole sort of exciting range of stories in Yonville, everything

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from us, obviously, the news stories. And part of my motivation was I would know nothing

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about Yonville if it wasn't for the sun being a resident here. So to me, it was critically

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important to be able to do this. And there's also a host of other fun, interesting stories

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and closer connections with the veterans home.

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So there's a lot that we want to weave into this

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and certainly encourage all of you with ideas, comments.

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We will start doing some,

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just opening listening sessions around town.

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So we'll do those and open those up

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so that we can get more feedback from residents here.

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So it's a work in progress,

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but we're really excited about it

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and pleased to be able to come talk to you about it.

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Thank you very much, Mark.

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And I see Larry, would you like to say something?

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Thank you very much. I'm Larry Kamer from Yon Street, Yonfield. It's been a pleasure

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working with Mark to birth this baby and to see it start crawling. What I wanted to add

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to what he said are just a couple of what I call assurances. The first is that we are

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about real journalism.

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We think a great community deserves a great paper

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and a paper that holds a mirror up

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and that cares about the town,

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and so you will be hearing and hearing from

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and seeing our journalists,

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both of whom are here in the room.

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Our predecessor, Sharon, did an amazing amount of work

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for one person, and now we are building on that.

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So with good journalism comes good coverage, good accountability and an opening up of the conversation.

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So the second assurance I'll give you is that you'll probably love a lot of the stuff that we do

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and I'm sure there'll be some things that you probably won't love so much, but that's what independent journalism is.

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The next thing I'll say is we have no agenda.

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Linda Mark and the other founder and I have worked very hard to separate the founder-business

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side of things from the journalism side of things.

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So we do not influence the journalists.

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We don't tell them what to write.

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We don't tell them who they should be covering favorably or unfavorably.

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That's how we think we're going to keep credibility as a paper.

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And then the third thing I'll add, and this is part of my mission in life these days, is we will need community support, economic support.

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The paper, we have a critical number of folks who have stepped up and invested in our company.

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We need more.

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We will be – you'll be hearing from us to raise funds for this entity, Highway 29 Media,

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which is I want you to think of like a public radio station, you know something

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that has to work with a lot of community involvement and of course we'll

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need subscribers and advertisers so I hope everybody you know within the sound

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of my voice will say yes when our new advertising person gives them a call

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because we we rely on that support to succeed. I want to thank all of you

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for the good wishes you've expressed to me and Mark individually it means a

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to us and we are going to look forward to kind of seeing you out on the trail.

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So thank you very much for having us today.

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And thank you very much for stepping up and saving the on-field sun.

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Greatly, greatly, greatly appreciated.

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And just one other quick addition.

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One of the partners that we've developed is the Napa Vela Community Foundation.

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And as you've probably seen, they have established a meeting democracy fund at the foundation.

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and donors to the fund, obviously get the taxable donation,

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and then that fund in turn gives grants to Highway 29,

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which is a public benefit corporation,

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so it's basically a hybrid between a nonprofit

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and a for-profit, so we certainly encourage people

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to extend the word about the Media and Democracy Fund,

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and the foundation will be hosting an event

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an event at the community center on, I think, April 20th and it's going to be talking about

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I'm Saving Local Journalism and I'll be one of the panelists as well as Walking Alvarado

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so I encourage people to come to that too. So I wanted to thank the foundation for setting

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that up because that really is a central part of what we're doing.

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All right. Thank you very, very much again. And thanks for coming so we could all, you

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know, meet your, the journalists there too. Eddie, do we have any public comment

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I do measure on this.

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Deputy Tom Clerk, Gady will read into the record.

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Okay, great, thank you.

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We received public comment from Sharon Stensas

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to Mayor Moeller and Council members.

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During the presentation this afternoon,

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I am confident you will come to realize

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how extremely fortunate Yantville is

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to have such highly experienced, talented, dedicated,

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and sincere local owners and managers

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to take over the Yantville Sun.

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You can expect solid improvements

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and local news coverage in quality and some needed innovations.

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I've known editor Kim Beltran for many years.

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She is one of those bright matter-of-fact journalists with a keen nose for news

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and the discipline and dedication to put it all together every week

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in an eye-catching format and on time. Please take time to get to know her.

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And it is vitally important for the town of Yantville,

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the business community and residents to support the work of Highway 29 media

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with advertising readership opinions and donations to this new public benefit

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corporation. Continued local ownership is key and everyone has parts to play in

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fostering its success. Sincerely Sharon. Thank you very much. Would anybody from

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the public like to make a comment? Seeing nobody moving forward we will now

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Item 9 on our agenda is a public hearing, and we have none.

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So we will move to agenda item, which I assume most of you were likely here for 10a.

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This is we will, the item is receive the presentation and direct questions to staff,

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and receive them will take public comment.

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So, let me just go through in a little more detail so everybody's clear how we are going

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to do this.

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So, this is regarding the final ADA accessibility improvement design for public lands located

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at Forrester Park and Three Warriors Park.

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So first, I'm going to ask staff, which is, John, are you going to be making this

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presentation?

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Okay, that's what she'll be coming up and you'll just be assisting then, okay Rosalba will be making the presentation after she makes that presentation I'm going to ask our town attorney to also talk to us about ADA law after both those presentations the council have an opportunity to ask questions of either Rosalba or our town attorney Gary

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After we take those questions, we will then go and I'll introduce the opportunity for the public to come up and give us your public comment.

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And after that is over, we'll bring it back to council for deliberation and discussion.

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So if you didn't get all that, that's okay, because after the staff report and questions before public comment, I will repeat this again.

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So let's Rosalba, if you'd like to please give us a presentation that we most appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, mayor and good evening. Town council.

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I'm Rosalba Ramirez, the deputy public works director and I will be presenting a lot of the information regarding the accessibility parking.

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At Forster Park and 3 worse park project.

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And much like the mayor went over, I do want to go over the quick approach to this presentation because we've had multiple community meetings. It's kind of has a lot of history. I wanted to make sure the town council had all the information.

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So I will be going over a project summary, just kind of an overview of the project project needs. I'll show some of the renderings.

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Then I'll go over our community outreach which I will touch upon during the presentation.

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And then I'll come back and have larger views of those renderings.

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So you will see larger zoomed in views of those renderings and they're also included

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in the staff report.

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So quick overview or project summary of this.

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This project is currently programmed and was programmed in fiscal year 17-18 in

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our cap on improvements project program projects.

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It's grant funded, the Transportation Development Act, TDA funds of the amount of 160,000.

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And it's specifically for this work.

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Of that money, we've used just over 39,000 for design.

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So that just includes our consultant fees for the design and for the renderings.

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Construction, we don't have final construction costs, but based on other parking, other accessible

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parking spots that we've put in or anticipated to put in, we estimate about 120,000 for two stalls,

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which would use up the grant funds. The scope of this project, just very briefly, and what we've

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shown in the public to the public and including the grant funds, is to provide accessibility

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to public land with public parking slash access. This, because of this neighborhood,

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we do want to emphasize this was not a project for sidewalks in this neighborhood.

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The remaining work to receive direction from Town Council then direct our

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consultant how to complete design and then move on to construction if that's

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the direction we receive.

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And so I want to touch upon based on some of the

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feedback we received how we're designing this project. So we did hire a

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consultant it's not being designed in-house. So when we look at the ADA

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requirements for design either the ADA Americans Disability Act standards or

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Cal Trans Standards because it's a state-funded project. We direct our consultant to provide us

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the least impactful design, so least impactful to the park, but to still meet ADA requirements.

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And because this is a consultant, they will make sure they meet ADA requirements. Even if we

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00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:05,300
ask them could you not put this item in or could you adjust it to this, they will still meet

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00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:10,320
ADA requirements with trying to accommodate what we're requesting. But because they are

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,720
engineering firms they will not stamp or approve plans unless they meet these

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00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,340
legal requirements. So it is not designed in-house.

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,400
Now going into the

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existing conditions at each park, I'll start with Forester Park. So we have

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00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:32,120
existing out there a crosswalk with two ADA ramps, one leading into the park

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00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,420
and there's existing streetlight and some landscaping and utilities and

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00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,640
public parking on the street is currently provided on that raised

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,200
shoulder you see there. I do have some errors indicating where these items are.

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00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,560
Some of the restrictions we have out there to putting that stall in are is that existing

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00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:58,680
streetlight. It would exceed project funds to have to relocate that streetlight because of

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,320
the streetlight itself and the underground utility and the point of service, the power

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00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,740
connection that's there. And also those ADA ramps. So we can't construct a parking stall

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00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:10,700
that's going to impede the use of those existing ADA ramps.

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,140
We had multiple community meetings.

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00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:17,200
At the first community meeting,

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00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,260
we presented the first design that you see there,

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00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,540
design option one presented.

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,760
It was a parallel parking stall

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00:57:24,340 --> 00:57:26,340
that connected to that existing ADA ramp

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00:57:26,340 --> 00:57:27,300
and led into the park.

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00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,420
One of the reasons we chose the parallel parking stall

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00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:33,080
was to more match the existing street parking

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,220
since that's currently a parallel parking.

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00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,980
We presented that to the community

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00:57:37,980 --> 00:57:42,720
and we received feedback and based on that feedback we adjusted our design so

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00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,300
design option two was based off of the feedback we received from the first

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00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:50,600
community meeting which was use the existing landscape and provide a pull-in

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00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,480
parking stall and which is shown here and that we still connect to the

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00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,760
existing ADA ramp that leads into the park and we just use the existing

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00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,420
landscaping as best we could and not getting too close to that street light

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00:58:04,420 --> 00:58:11,020
or today DE ramp. So that's as far over to that side that parking stop can go

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00:58:11,020 --> 00:58:12,180
because of the streetlight.

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00:58:15,490 --> 00:58:18,450
Now this is a slight revision to that second design

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00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:22,490
option. We received more additional community feedback. We had additional

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00:58:22,490 --> 00:58:26,790
field meetings and a PRAC meeting. So based on those meetings and feedback

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00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:30,970
we received through emails and through phone calls with residents. We revised

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00:58:30,970 --> 00:58:35,210
the rendering to show that we weren't necessarily planning on putting

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00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:40,450
sidewalk in on one side of the parking stall, we just need to connect to the

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00:58:40,450 --> 00:58:44,390
existing ramp. So our intention is just to provide the accessibility parking

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00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:49,490
least impactful as possible but still connect to the existing ADA facilities

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00:58:49,490 --> 00:58:50,370
that lead into the park.

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00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:59,070
And this is a plan viewer top view of the two

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00:58:59,070 --> 00:59:04,970
options. One showing kind of how far it extends in reference to the existing

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00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:10,570
Street and existing ADA ramp and then the pull-in parking stall utilizing just landscape area as

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00:59:10,570 --> 00:59:10,770
well.

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00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:21,290
Three wears park I'll go over the existing conditions so right now out there that raised

517
00:59:21,290 --> 00:59:26,730
shoulder that runs along the front of the park is not sidewalk it is parking designated as a

518
00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:33,090
parking area. The existing so it's not an ADA facility the existing ramp leading into the

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00:59:33,090 --> 00:59:38,210
park which is shown here in both the second and the picture to the far right show the

520
00:59:38,210 --> 00:59:40,890
damaged sidewalk and damaged asphalt

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00:59:40,890 --> 00:59:43,250
leading into the ramp and it shows the

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00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:45,090
non-compliant ramp leading up to the

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00:59:45,090 --> 00:59:47,510
bridge and when I say non-compliant ramp

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00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:49,490
it means that existing facility does

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00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:52,230
not meet ADA guidelines and that's

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00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:54,910
also not just our interpretation of it

527
00:59:54,910 --> 00:59:56,390
it's also our design consultant

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00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:58,230
reviewing the existing facilities and

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00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:59,990
letting us know it does not meet ADA

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01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:11,240
Design option one was presented in community meeting number one. So along with

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:17,420
Forrester Park, we presented the parallel parking option for Three Wears Park. And I

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01:00:17,420 --> 01:00:20,180
do want to emphasize these were renderings, so they're not the final

533
01:00:20,180 --> 01:00:25,480
appearance of it. And design option one, you do see the ramp. And you kind of see

534
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,480
what appears to be a lot of concrete out there. That was purely for rendering

535
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,900
purposes, but we definitely understand the need to see visually the differences

536
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:38,260
between what's actually going to be put out there and there's also stairs that lead up to there

537
01:00:38,260 --> 01:00:45,320
and that was just an optional put in by the consultant. Our never was our intention to create

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01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,540
a ramp stairs or to increase the footprint of the actual accessible parking stall.

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01:00:50,620 --> 01:00:54,540
So we were presented that to community community number one. We received feedback

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01:00:54,540 --> 01:01:01,060
from that community meeting to also provide a view of what would a pull-in parking

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01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:06,040
install would look like and a ramp meandering through the park that wouldn't require handrails.

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01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:11,420
So we revised through renderings and we had the consultant rise the renderings

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01:01:11,420 --> 01:01:17,520
and send us in design option two. And so we presented this it is a pull-in parking stall

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01:01:18,220 --> 01:01:24,220
a path meandering through the park. So this particular design was never preferred or

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01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:29,220
initially presented by the town we revised it based on community feedback.

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01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:35,180
so this design was to accommodate community feedback. With this design we

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01:01:35,180 --> 01:01:38,180
do take up a larger footprint of the park and we would have to remove

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01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:38,900
additional trees.

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01:01:44,270 --> 01:01:47,110
We held another community meeting, field meeting, and a

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01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:50,550
PRAC meeting and received additional feedback from the community. We have

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01:01:50,550 --> 01:01:56,910
phone calls and emails and so we revised the parallel parking and we've

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01:01:56,910 --> 01:02:00,810
completely eliminated the pull-in parking although that's still here

553
01:02:00,810 --> 01:02:04,470
for your reference and for your use in deciding your direction.

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01:02:05,210 --> 01:02:09,170
But the parallel parking stall that we revised, we removed the stairs so that there was no

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01:02:09,170 --> 01:02:11,350
confusion as to us wanting to include stairs.

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01:02:12,090 --> 01:02:14,590
We adjusted the appearance of the parking stall.

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01:02:15,050 --> 01:02:16,070
We did have that ability.

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01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:19,070
So we can either, if it's concrete, we can add color to concrete.

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01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:23,790
We can ask the consultant to review to see if asphalt can be ADA compliance and we

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01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:25,250
can make an asphalt parking stall.

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01:02:25,810 --> 01:02:29,450
And we tried to change the appearance of the actual ramp.

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01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:36,470
ramp. So the ramp itself in our description here says retaining wall. So what you see on

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01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:41,230
the ramp itself, that is the retaining wall. So there will be no additional wall going up

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01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:46,350
to the pedestrian bridge. What you see here is technically the wall. And also what you

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01:02:46,350 --> 01:02:52,070
see here, the handrails, the face of that ramp is all rendering. So there is opportunity

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01:02:52,070 --> 01:02:58,830
to change that appearance. And just to emphasize, we would not make be putting

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01:02:58,830 --> 01:03:04,610
in additional stairs and will not be keeping the original non-compliant ramp that's that would

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01:03:04,610 --> 01:03:07,630
be completely removed and this would take its place.

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01:03:09,690 --> 01:03:13,830
Option four was also a little revision

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01:03:13,830 --> 01:03:21,950
to the parallel parking after feedback. So this is the no parking no parking stall option and

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01:03:21,950 --> 01:03:28,270
this is just a rendering. So I used the original rendering and filled in the raised shoulder area

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01:03:28,270 --> 01:03:32,430
with just landscaping and again this is just a rendering just this is just to

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01:03:32,430 --> 01:03:39,170
be able to show no parking there and when we say no parking it would be no

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01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:45,230
parking on street either not just accessible parking but the ramp itself

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01:03:45,230 --> 01:03:48,610
would still need to be brought up to ADA standards and

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01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:54,870
this is an aerial view

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01:03:54,870 --> 01:04:00,190
or top view of the footprint so the design option one the parallel

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01:04:00,190 --> 01:04:06,930
parking not the no parking just parallel parking. This shows the full green area is the park itself

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01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:13,090
that's not being touched out by the project. The blue area there is the new footprint of the project

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01:04:13,090 --> 01:04:19,390
but a good portion of that is already existing asphalt because there's an existing paved shoulder

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01:04:19,390 --> 01:04:25,850
and there's an existing pedestrian ramp leading to the bridge so we try to utilize as much of

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01:04:25,850 --> 01:04:29,730
that existing pavement or hard surface as we could.

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01:04:30,590 --> 01:04:32,990
So we're trying to minimize the actual footprint

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01:04:32,990 --> 01:04:34,210
we're taking up of the park

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01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:38,290
to put in this new parking or pedestrian ramp.

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01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:41,130
Design option two, again,

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01:04:41,850 --> 01:04:44,150
this was just revised based off community feedback

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01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:45,470
from the first community meeting

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01:04:46,370 --> 01:04:48,910
that shows a very much larger footprint

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01:04:48,910 --> 01:04:51,990
taken up in the park and the pull-in parking stall.

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01:04:56,340 --> 01:04:57,860
A little bit on the project history,

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01:04:57,860 --> 01:05:03,180
A lot of the comments we received were why these locations, why this project.

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:09,880
Our ADA Evaluation Transition Evaluation Plan specifically calls out accessibility at our

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,300
public facilities and specifically calls out these parks along with other parks.

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01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:22,320
We had originally, have some kind of snapshots of those, of that plan there, we originally

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01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:29,280
had Forester Park and 3 Wears Park scheduled for years 1 through 4. We're now in year 7, so

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,220
that isn't that we're behind, but we are making our way through the transition plan,

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01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:37,660
addressing other locations and trying to address the new locations as we come up to them.

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,420
During the creation of the evaluation plan, community meetings were held, and community

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01:05:44,420 --> 01:05:47,920
outreach letter, and I have a screenshot of it here, was sent out to the community,

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,720
specifically the Washington Park neighborhood and we've seen their feedback

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01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,140
and one of the reasons why we emphasize that this is not a location to put

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01:05:56,140 --> 01:06:00,100
sidewalks in is that's a lot of the feedback the town received during that

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01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:06,000
time, the day-to-day transition plan time. So it was acknowledged that there

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01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,900
was an accessibility improvements needed at these locations but the

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01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:14,740
entire neighborhood did not require sidewalks. So we did what was

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01:06:14,740 --> 01:06:22,580
included here was to put a path of travel, ADA parking at Forrester Park, and Kerbrams

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01:06:22,580 --> 01:06:25,720
Pathslope, and ADA parking at Three Wears Park.

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01:06:26,260 --> 01:06:30,700
And that's the language that you see here on the screen is located in our Transition

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01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:30,960
Plan.

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01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:34,220
And all this information I created links to on the project website as well.

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01:06:38,820 --> 01:06:43,800
Just to further go into the Transition Plan and how the town is trying to meet

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01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:49,400
the ADA transition plan requirements or what we've called out for ourselves. Here are some

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01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:55,560
pictures of ADA parking at our various public facilities or parks. Some of the differences

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:01,920
you see here on Heather Street that has sidewalk. So that has an accessible path that can be

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01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,940
utilized for the parking as well and it connects to an ADA ramp. So that's why it's

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01:07:06,940 --> 01:07:10,060
just a cutout in there connecting to the sidewalk. It's a little bit more straightforward.

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01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:13,060
for Yontville Park, Community Park in Northend Town.

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01:07:13,740 --> 01:07:16,280
There's an ADA sidewalk or path right there

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01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,080
right next to the parking.

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01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:20,680
Vineyard Park and Oak Circle,

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,200
both are able to accommodate the parking spots

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01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,900
with ADA accessible paths right next to them.

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01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:29,500
Veterans Park, the picture you see here

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01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:31,680
is not ADA compliant and that's the project

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,560
we currently have in process

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01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,560
to provide an ADA accessible up to ADA standards.

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:41,360
park installed this park. As soon as the rain stops, our contractor will go out

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:46,740
there and get that project going forward. And I highlighted on the ADA

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01:07:46,740 --> 01:07:50,220
transition plan, kind of snippet you see here on the far right of the screen,

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01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:55,200
those different parks called out, including Forest Park and Three Wears Park. So

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01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,100
we are making our way through the ADA transition plan, trying to meet

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01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:00,500
compliance.

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01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:08,090
ADA compliance required, again just to go more into the

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01:08:08,090 --> 01:08:15,810
American with Disabilities Act. So as a town, the ADA, the Disability Act, provides a clear

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01:08:15,810 --> 01:08:20,030
and comprehensive national mandate for the elimination of discrimination against individuals

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01:08:20,030 --> 01:08:26,410
with disabilities. So this provides us the guideline to provide inclusive accessibility

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01:08:26,410 --> 01:08:34,730
to all. So it's not us determining who gets access to what, we follow this ADA Accessibility

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01:08:34,730 --> 01:08:40,870
Act. These locations in particular are town locations. The town provides public

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01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:45,430
parking at Forester Park and at Threy Park. So this is street parking directly

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:50,290
in front of the park or a town facility. It's not in front of anybody's

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01:08:50,290 --> 01:08:53,950
private property directly in front of the town facility. We provide public

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01:08:53,950 --> 01:09:00,870
parking and we provide access to public facilities. So that

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01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:06,190
be the park or the pedestrian trail. So from this ADA we are required and through

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01:09:06,190 --> 01:09:10,330
the ADA transition plan to make these facilities ADA compliant.

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01:09:12,990 --> 01:09:13,510
And the map

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01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:19,130
shown here is just a quick overview of our existing trail map just to show how

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01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:23,610
it goes through town, connects to different facilities and parks and it's

649
01:09:23,610 --> 01:09:26,310
a great amenity to the town and to visitors and residents.

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01:09:30,710 --> 01:09:31,890
ADA compliance

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01:09:31,890 --> 01:09:36,650
continued. So I wanted to touch on this a little bit. A lot of the comments we

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01:09:36,650 --> 01:09:41,670
received and questions we received is can we provide the parking stall somewhere

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01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:50,390
else for Three Wears Park. So I included a quick little quote from ADA. Parking

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01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:53,310
spaces shall be permitted to be located in different parking facilities.

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01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:57,670
If substantially equivalent or greater accessibility is provided in terms of

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01:09:57,670 --> 01:10:01,430
distance from an accessible entrance or entrances, parking fee and user

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01:10:01,430 --> 01:10:09,530
convenience. It's kind of a broad quote to be interpreted differently, so to provide some

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01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:17,150
direction on how we kind of start analyzing the areas suggested. Yon Street, at the trail,

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01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:22,090
so just next to the creek, the bridge, that was one of the locations suggested as possible

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01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:29,370
parking for three weirs. That location specifically has physical obstructions,

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01:10:29,370 --> 01:10:35,690
So at that location it's a narrow section of the street so we can't put a parking

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01:10:35,690 --> 01:10:39,430
stall at the bridge because it's narrower and it's at the bridge. So we

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01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:44,010
can't extend over the bridge to create enough room because it's we go into the

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01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:48,990
creek. There's also a fire hydrant further south that would have to be

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01:10:48,990 --> 01:10:53,710
completely relocated if we wanted to provide a new parking there and a

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01:10:53,710 --> 01:10:57,990
PG&E facility. So that's the kind of a little silver box you see there on

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01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:04,410
the screen. We can't say exactly that that would cost, how much that would cost. We

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01:11:04,410 --> 01:11:08,990
just know that moving those types of facilities would potentially be very

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01:11:08,990 --> 01:11:15,170
expensive and very lengthy. On Yon Street itself, if we decide to move further

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01:11:15,170 --> 01:11:18,470
south or further north of these locations, we're now putting a parking

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01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:22,970
stall directly in front of private property. Whereas at Three Wears, it's in

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01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:25,930
front of a public facility. It's in front of a park. It's not in front of someone's

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01:11:25,930 --> 01:11:26,130
house.

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01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:30,350
So that's something else we have to consider when we're looking at these different options.

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Add on Fennell Road.

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01:11:33,490 --> 01:11:37,290
This is a great location to be suggested just for accessibility parking in general.

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01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:44,290
So I can't say whether this would be a good location for Three Wears Park, but as just

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01:11:44,290 --> 01:11:47,810
a spot to provide accessible parking, the town's looking into that.

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01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:52,850
It would be a good spot for us in general to provide accessibility to the entrance

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01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:58,990
to the trail for Three Wears Park and I'll touch a little bit later on the ADA

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01:11:58,990 --> 01:12:05,710
transition plan and how we would have to review it depending on direction so if

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01:12:05,710 --> 01:12:11,910
this spot needs to be is chosen for Three Wears Park parking it would have

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01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:15,890
to take it would require a lot more in-depth research and analysis not just

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01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:20,230
from us from a consultant to determine if the distance that it is

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01:12:20,230 --> 01:12:27,570
from Three Wears Park will meet ADA requirements. So it is far enough away so that we can't

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01:12:27,570 --> 01:12:31,290
just say yes, that's going to meet ADA compliance for Three Wears Park.

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01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:40,950
Quick recap on the community meetings and how many we had. So we did hold a community

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01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:48,590
meeting on July 26. It was via Zoom. We had 21 attendees. The revisions, the requests

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01:12:48,590 --> 01:12:54,030
we received were to see pull-in parking. So we presented two parallel parking designs.

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01:12:54,850 --> 01:12:58,930
And so there was request to see let's see pull-in parking at Forrester Park and pull-in parking

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01:12:58,930 --> 01:13:03,670
at Three Wears Park with mere andering through the park to eliminate the need for handrails.

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01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:07,510
And so that's what we presented in community meeting number two,

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which we held on October 20th also via Zoom with 15 attendees.

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01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:21,390
We had a lot of opposition to both designs of both locations and to both the

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01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:25,630
parallel parking and pool and parking at Three Wears Park. So we tried to adjust

696
01:13:25,630 --> 01:13:30,170
and revise our information and our renderings to kind of make more clear

697
01:13:30,170 --> 01:13:34,150
rendering to show that we weren't trying to install or construct a lot of

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01:13:34,150 --> 01:13:38,490
sidewalk or a lot of asphalt and we held a field meeting for community

699
01:13:38,490 --> 01:13:43,930
request on November 16th which was a special meeting of the PRAC so we had

700
01:13:43,930 --> 01:13:49,870
PRAC members there and the following day we presented the information to the

701
01:13:49,870 --> 01:13:54,330
PRAC officially at a PRIC meeting on November 17th and I wanted to go

702
01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:59,570
briefly over our approach to reaching out to the community. Prior to the first

703
01:13:59,570 --> 01:14:04,990
community meeting we sent out mailers with information, the fliers, and we

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01:14:04,990 --> 01:14:06,030
We did door hangers.

705
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:09,330
We received feedback from the first community meeting

706
01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:14,770
opposed to mailers and concerns regarding debris

707
01:14:14,770 --> 01:14:16,370
on the streets with the door hangers.

708
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:19,730
And we were asked to provide posters at the parks.

709
01:14:20,590 --> 01:14:20,950
So we did.

710
01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:23,910
We tried to create large enough posters

711
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:25,090
to make them easy to see.

712
01:14:25,570 --> 01:14:27,510
And so we created updates on those posters.

713
01:14:28,510 --> 01:14:31,130
And during this time, we received a lot of emails.

714
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:34,150
So we started creating kind of an email mail list.

715
01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:39,310
and seeing the the different interaction on social media we decided to also use

716
01:14:39,310 --> 01:14:44,430
that as a good platform so we try to post all the flyers all the rendering

717
01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:49,590
and updates on the poster boards physically up there and we updated the

718
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:55,590
website with all the information and then we also did next-door Facebook

719
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:59,330
and Instagram updates with the flyers saw the information

720
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,940
Just to try to meet as much community engagement as we could, we did hold back on the door hangers,

721
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,040
a lot due to community feedback, and a lot due to the storm.

722
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:13,500
So we did adjust how we reached out to the community.

723
01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:18,980
As the project went on, for future projects, not necessarily in that neighborhood, we'll

724
01:15:18,980 --> 01:15:23,500
probably adjust a little bit again, but still use key components on how we outreach for

725
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:24,720
this particular project.

726
01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:29,920
So going back into the preferred designs.

727
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:35,740
So, based on the community meetings and the meetings from the PRAC, the Pullen Park and

728
01:15:35,740 --> 01:15:43,880
Forestry Park is what we think we perceived as the preferred design from the community

729
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,060
and from town staff.

730
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:49,820
It connects pretty easily to the existing ramp.

731
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,340
Any new concrete will be colored concrete to match the existing sandstone colored

732
01:15:55,340 --> 01:15:57,060
concrete in our pedestrian trail system.

733
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:03,900
We will try to minimize the appearance or the impacts to the existing landscape

734
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:09,840
area and the existing facilities and try to take up the least number of street

735
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,120
parking stalls as possible to provide accessibility parking stall and

736
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,120
still meet ADA compliance.

737
01:16:18,250 --> 01:16:20,970
There were park alternatives so I'm going to present

738
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:25,330
two different options here. This one is the parallel parking stall. You've

739
01:16:25,330 --> 01:16:28,570
seen this before just made it increase it a little bit larger so you could

740
01:16:28,570 --> 01:16:34,730
see that we're trying to minimize the appearance of very obvious concrete. So again we can put

741
01:16:34,730 --> 01:16:39,850
colored concrete in to match the existing trail system. We can change the face of the ramp.

742
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:45,630
We put a what we're hoping appeared as a wood face on here to kind of match more of the

743
01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:49,830
the parks that we have around town some of the facings we have. And then the handrails are

744
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:54,250
just standard handrails we put in but again that's also as long as they meet ADA requirements

745
01:16:54,250 --> 01:16:58,890
we can actually change the aesthetic of the handrails and the landscaping itself.

746
01:16:59,410 --> 01:17:06,310
So when we do the work to put this in, we could separately present some sort of,

747
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:10,990
or receive input on how to improve the area or the appearance of this

748
01:17:10,990 --> 01:17:16,850
ramp and parking saw with different landscaping. So that is an option later

749
01:17:16,850 --> 01:17:17,150
on.

750
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:25,440
The last alternative for Three Wears Park, or the last of the preferred

751
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:32,340
alternatives is we still have to provide the ADA ramp, the update to the ADA ramp to make it

752
01:17:32,340 --> 01:17:38,240
compliant to the bridge. Again we would be removing the existing non-compliant ramp completely

753
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:46,000
and constructing a new ramp that is ADA compliant. We would be removing street parking

754
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:51,240
all together so that raised pavement shoulder we would remove just in the frontage of the

755
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:58,340
town property. And we would put, I put here just to make it look like grass or to match

756
01:17:58,340 --> 01:18:04,460
what's out there, but the actual landscaping itself still open to feedback. We could develop

757
01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:08,600
a landscape plan to decide what would be the best appearance there to go with the

758
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:14,960
new ramp and to provide the least impact to the actual public park and to the neighborhood.

759
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:15,140
neighborhood.

760
01:18:17,180 --> 01:18:22,080
And so we would prohibit parking here. And that, again, this is a rendering

761
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:27,160
that red there is just to indicate no parking. So it won't necessarily be that appearance

762
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,980
in real life.

763
01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:37,180
And again, wanted to show the aerial view of the parallel parking spot

764
01:18:37,180 --> 01:18:45,600
to show we were trying to keep our impact to the actual park area as small as possible.

765
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:51,320
We're trying to use the existing paved facilities already, so that includes the paved raised

766
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:57,120
paved shoulder, so the yellow you see there is the existing paved shoulder, so we're trying

767
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:02,600
to utilize that and utilize the existing asphalt ramp coming from the bridge to just create

768
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,220
a parking stop.

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01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:09,900
So the old non-compliant ramp would be completely removed and a new one would be constructed

770
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:10,140
in.

771
01:19:10,140 --> 01:19:10,200
plan,

772
01:19:15,150 --> 01:19:21,430
how some of the different options will impact our ADA transition plan and our funding.

773
01:19:22,850 --> 01:19:28,950
In order for us to not follow what's in the ADA transition plan, so our ADA transition

774
01:19:28,950 --> 01:19:36,650
plan currently requires us to or is directing us to provide a parking stall and compliant

775
01:19:36,650 --> 01:19:38,950
ramp at Three Wears Park and Forrest Park.

776
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:46,370
work. If we decide to not provide these improvements, a revision to the transition plan would have

777
01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:50,170
to be, would have to occur. And this could be either an amendment to the existing transition

778
01:19:50,170 --> 01:19:55,550
plan or a full revision to the transition plan. And this would require a consultant,

779
01:19:56,150 --> 01:20:01,350
an analysis, and then adoption of the new plan. So that would take time and additional

780
01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:06,610
funds. My current grandparents would not cover the cost of an amendment or a revision

781
01:20:06,610 --> 01:20:12,630
to the ADA transition plan. Also the ADA transition plan, having one approved in

782
01:20:12,630 --> 01:20:16,970
place is required by different funding, federal funding and state funding

783
01:20:16,970 --> 01:20:21,970
requirements. So currently projects that we have that we're looking for to fund

784
01:20:21,970 --> 01:20:26,790
existing projects or repairs of existing issues we have require us to have

785
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:31,750
an approved ADA transition plan. So it's not something that we can just decide

786
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:34,870
to eliminate altogether. A transition plan is something we have to have in

787
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:43,470
place. Our specific funding for this project, the TDA grant funds, we have $160,000 that

788
01:20:43,470 --> 01:20:49,370
were received for reimbursement from these funds. If we decide not to move forward with

789
01:20:49,370 --> 01:20:54,270
this project at all, we would have to pay back the $39,000 we've already used for the

790
01:20:54,270 --> 01:21:01,110
design and the consultant. And rejecting funds or not utilizing funds, it's not

791
01:21:01,110 --> 01:21:07,050
as easy as just saying no we don't want these funds anymore. The funding body the state funds

792
01:21:07,050 --> 01:21:12,170
they would ask why we decided not to move forward with these funds because they are competitive.

793
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:18,250
So other agencies were asking for those funds and we were the agency chosen to get those funds.

794
01:21:18,710 --> 01:21:25,070
So if we give those funds back next round of funding it's not going to look so well for us.

795
01:21:25,390 --> 01:21:27,690
They might choose a different agency to give those funds to.

796
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,740
So just a quick recap on

797
01:21:32,740 --> 01:21:39,740
progression. Again, it's listing one we had at the community meetings, but also a funding deadline.

798
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:46,740
So the August 2024 is when we have to have this project completely designed, completely constructed

799
01:21:47,380 --> 01:21:53,960
and invoiced to the state. There are always potential to ask for extensions, but this was

800
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:59,600
already they provided a handful of years. We had this program in 1718 to get this project

801
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,380
moving forward, so the odds of them giving an extension aren't very high, but that is always

802
01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:09,860
a possibility. But if we keep on without extensions, this project has to be completely done by August

803
01:22:09,860 --> 01:22:10,380
2024.

804
01:22:14,350 --> 01:22:19,710
Council direction. So what public works needs, we need direction from council on whether

805
01:22:19,710 --> 01:22:23,870
or not to move forward with the design and to provide direction on the preferred designs.

806
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:31,050
Public Works recommendations at Forester Park and saw the 90 degree pull-in parking as shown

807
01:22:31,050 --> 01:22:35,010
just making the connection to the existing ADA ramp and doing the color

808
01:22:35,010 --> 01:22:40,710
to concrete to match the existing trail system. And for Three Roars Park, we

809
01:22:40,710 --> 01:22:46,470
recommend either retain parking and install the parallel stall with ADA

810
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:52,350
ramp or remove parking do not install the ADA parking stall but still

811
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:54,150
reconstruct the path to the bridge.

812
01:22:56,990 --> 01:22:59,330
All of this information, our previous

813
01:22:59,950 --> 01:23:05,310
PDFs and recordings of our previous presentations, links and copies of the

814
01:23:05,310 --> 01:23:09,170
letters and community outreach for the ADA transition plan are all located on

815
01:23:09,170 --> 01:23:13,670
the project website. I have shown there the QR code for that information there

816
01:23:13,670 --> 01:23:18,310
as well. You can find all the information at the project website and I

817
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:20,890
will update it with new information as I receive it.

818
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:24,380
That is the end of my

819
01:23:24,380 --> 01:23:29,360
presentation and I will be returning it to the mayor. Thank you very much for

820
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:34,080
a very thorough presentation so as I mentioned earlier now we would like our

821
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:40,900
town attorney to give us some information about ADA requirements. Yeah happy to.

822
01:23:41,580 --> 01:23:45,480
Thank you mayor and council members. I'll provide some additional detail on the

823
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:50,300
ADA and the requirements and fill in some additional information from the

824
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:56,100
presentation that you just received. So the town is subject to title 2 of the

825
01:23:56,100 --> 01:24:02,320
ADA, which is different than that which would apply to private businesses. Title II specifically

826
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:08,880
applies to public agencies like the town. It requires and prohibits discrimination in

827
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:14,940
all programs, services, and activities the town undertakes and that's pulled directly

828
01:24:14,940 --> 01:24:19,980
from the ADA. And in practice that means that the ADA applies to everything that

829
01:24:19,980 --> 01:24:28,820
the town does. So parking is its own program service or activity and the park is a separate

830
01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:32,540
program service or activity and so are the facilities there and so on.

831
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:40,540
So the ADA transition plan that was mentioned by the Deputy Public Works Director is required

832
01:24:40,980 --> 01:24:47,640
because when the ADA was passed it was recognized that public agencies had to undertake quite

833
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:52,000
a bit of work to come into compliance and make things accessible and that a lot of facilities

834
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,820
and other programs and services were not accessible at the moment that that law took

835
01:24:56,820 --> 01:24:57,220
effect.

836
01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:02,220
So the purpose of the transition plan is to come up with an implementation schedule

837
01:25:02,670 --> 01:25:06,560
that over time would bring a public agency into compliance with the ADA.

838
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,880
So all public agencies have this type of transition plan.

839
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:11,960
Town has one.

840
01:25:12,340 --> 01:25:16,580
It's developed after analyzing all of the different accessibility requirements

841
01:25:16,580 --> 01:25:20,900
compliance, and then what's necessary to implement that and bring the town into compliance.

842
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:26,420
But it is also going to take time over time, and the transition plan, as the name implies,

843
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:28,300
is a transition over time.

844
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:36,940
So the guidelines that are used to develop a transition plan are developed by the federal

845
01:25:36,940 --> 01:25:42,340
government, and they include standards and specifications for making program services

846
01:25:42,340 --> 01:25:43,740
and activities accessible.

847
01:25:43,740 --> 01:25:47,480
And those are the guidelines that you see most recently updated in 2010.

848
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,800
There was a prior version of them as well, and they provide standards.

849
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:58,540
What was referenced in the presentation here just a little while ago about comparable facilities

850
01:25:58,910 --> 01:26:05,080
that is possible if there are truly comparable facilities nearby that provide equal or

851
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:05,880
greater access.

852
01:26:06,140 --> 01:26:07,820
And so that was the standard that was in there.

853
01:26:07,820 --> 01:26:13,720
And so the town might, in some circumstances, provide the same service.

854
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,600
If you're providing two programs, two park programs that were truly identical,

855
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,040
there's an opportunity, if you can show greater or equal access,

856
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,740
to do those at different facilities where you might have different access.

857
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,300
In the case of a park, it's a slightly different analysis,

858
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,080
because the parks are not all the same,

859
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,660
and what you do at parks is not the same at one park versus other parks.

860
01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:42,360
But those are the types of issues that are analyzed in an ADA transition plan when coming

861
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:49,220
up with what accessibility is required at any given location for the different program

862
01:26:49,220 --> 01:26:55,180
services and activities like parking but also the park and the facilities at the park.

863
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:02,060
So as the Deputy Public Works Director mentioned, this is currently in your plan.

864
01:27:02,060 --> 01:27:06,940
So, if there was a revision there, we would need to work on the process for revising that

865
01:27:06,940 --> 01:27:12,660
and then undertake an analysis of what's required and what alternatives might be there and understand

866
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:16,000
that staff is ready and prepared to do that if that's the direction from the council.

867
01:27:16,340 --> 01:27:19,360
But that would be a process that we need to separately undertake.

868
01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:24,420
For example, we wouldn't be able to answer this evening that the ADA would allow a

869
01:27:24,420 --> 01:27:25,780
certain thing or a certain change.

870
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,920
We'd need to go and take a look at the requirements.

871
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,200
So, with that, happy to answer any questions.

872
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:37,400
All right. Thank you very much. So as I mentioned earlier, and I promise I repeat so we've just

873
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,000
finished our

874
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,300
Staff presentation. So now we're going to bring it back to

875
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,500
the council and the council is going to ask

876
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,000
Either our public works or our town attorney questions

877
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:58,120
I really don't it doesn't matter what order you want to do those in and I will

878
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:02,540
you know just let anybody who wants to start and then after that I'll remind you

879
01:28:02,540 --> 01:28:07,140
of the next step in the process so this is the step we're at right now so with

880
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:12,260
that any questions and you don't just have to do it one time we can go back

881
01:28:12,260 --> 01:28:17,000
until all of your questions are answered so this council member Reeve

882
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:23,640
would she like to say something I have one question for the deputy public

883
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:35,080
and that is at the beginning of your presentation you indicated that the money for the grant was specifically for this work.

884
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:52,150
If we chose to alter the plans, is this grant really locked into just those specific sites?

885
01:28:53,230 --> 01:28:58,770
Yes, the way state grant applications go, you have to list your project scope and locations.

886
01:28:59,350 --> 01:29:03,850
So when they go to the final process of approving it, the approved funds you've received are

887
01:29:03,850 --> 01:29:05,090
for specific locations.

888
01:29:06,030 --> 01:29:12,770
You could make changes or sometimes add additional scope that does require a process, but it

889
01:29:12,770 --> 01:29:15,830
would be specific to what you're working on.

890
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:22,910
So these particular funds would not allow for creation of additional parking

891
01:29:22,910 --> 01:29:27,070
spots throughout town. It would be to provide accessibility at three words

892
01:29:27,070 --> 01:29:33,060
park and forest or park. Okay. All right. Thank you.

893
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:38,710
Thank you. Excuse me. Thank

894
01:29:38,710 --> 01:29:45,150
you. Thank you for your very thorough report. Assistant Director Ramirez. So

895
01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:48,370
one of the questions I have is in in reading through a lot of the comments

896
01:29:48,370 --> 01:29:53,590
from residents and in this report tonight you talked about maybe some initial

897
01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:59,350
analysis and specifically about three-wear park about the grade of the path

898
01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:59,730
there.

899
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,580
And it was reported in I think this report you provide today around 9%. I saw some comments

900
01:30:06,580 --> 01:30:16,140
or some analysis and some letters about 7%. So from all what I've read, what I hear from

901
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:24,940
a lot of residents is really a hope and a preference as our ADA transition report says

902
01:30:24,940 --> 01:30:29,500
as a preference for the least invasive path network as possible.

903
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:39,620
So when we've had consultants look at that process, have there been any other options

904
01:30:39,620 --> 01:30:49,620
that where a least invasive path would work using more of the existing pathway or are

905
01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:53,220
There are the two options you've provided today.

906
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,660
Are they what you've seen that do provide

907
01:30:56,660 --> 01:31:00,060
the least invasive network?

908
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:02,200
Yes and no.

909
01:31:02,740 --> 01:31:06,540
So the parallel parking with the ramp that you see,

910
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:07,980
that's the least impactful option.

911
01:31:08,540 --> 01:31:11,580
There are portions of the existing trail that hit 9%,

912
01:31:11,580 --> 01:31:13,240
portions that hit 7%,

913
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,340
and then they decrease as you go throughout.

914
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,860
So we cannot meet ADA compliance

915
01:31:17,860 --> 01:31:19,680
with the existing footprint that's there.

916
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:21,500
We do have to extend it.

917
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:22,960
With the parallel parking,

918
01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:24,780
that's the least impactful design.

919
01:31:25,340 --> 01:31:26,780
If we move the parking altogether,

920
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,580
there might be some,

921
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,620
because now we don't have that parking shoulder,

922
01:31:31,020 --> 01:31:35,040
we might be able to adjust that ADA ramp a little bit

923
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,720
to pull it out of the parking maybe towards the street,

924
01:31:37,940 --> 01:31:40,200
but it would still be very close

925
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,320
to what you see on the screen or what I presented.

926
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,940
So that is the least impactful possible

927
01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:46,560
to meet ADA compliance.

928
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,280
Anything that would not require handrails

929
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,240
would have to extend the length of the ramp,

930
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,280
which would then go into the park

931
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:57,500
further increase that footprint.

932
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:00,520
Another question, well.

933
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:03,340
Quick clarification to the,

934
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,200
in addition to the vertical grades of the existing ramp,

935
01:32:06,340 --> 01:32:08,720
it also lacks the handrails that are required

936
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,220
and the landings that would be required.

937
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,160
So the conversation is focused on the vertical grade,

938
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,780
but there's also the other components of ADA

939
01:32:16,780 --> 01:32:19,440
that are required that are lacking on the current path right now.

940
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:30,540
Is there, in some of the options you talk about the retaining wall, has there ever been any

941
01:32:30,540 --> 01:32:39,920
analysis in terms of like either with a landscape architect that by adding soil or from the

942
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:47,380
street to the a path by adding soil up to it that you could remove the handrail

943
01:32:47,380 --> 01:32:55,760
in that sense, just remove it because you wouldn't have a height issue of someone going off the path.

944
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:04,300
If we are given direction to look at the no parking option, that gives us now more room to move that ramp a bit.

945
01:33:04,460 --> 01:33:11,440
So we could have the designer look into how can we adjust this now that we don't provide parking and we don't provide a parking stall

946
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:15,120
to try to increase that existing ramp that we removed

947
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,060
when I have all that existing graded area

948
01:33:17,060 --> 01:33:18,540
that we could adjust possibly,

949
01:33:19,180 --> 01:33:23,340
but the park itself has different grades throughout,

950
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,000
so we wouldn't be able to fill all that in.

951
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,420
There's different uses for that park

952
01:33:28,420 --> 01:33:31,000
that we require some of that sloping and grade that's there.

953
01:33:31,620 --> 01:33:33,820
So there's some wiggle room

954
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,220
where we could have our designer look into that,

955
01:33:36,440 --> 01:33:39,100
but there's some areas of the ramp

956
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,420
that would still require handrails in that configuration.

957
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:45,470
That's all I have for now.

958
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:46,430
Thank you for your report.

959
01:33:46,710 --> 01:33:46,870
Thank you.

960
01:33:46,870 --> 01:33:47,650
Council Member McKee-Cant.

961
01:33:48,010 --> 01:33:48,590
Thank you.

962
01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:50,070
And thank you, Deputy.

963
01:33:50,370 --> 01:33:51,670
Public works from there is.

964
01:33:53,030 --> 01:34:01,470
So with the option with no parking, the entrance to that ramp looks just maybe the rendering.

965
01:34:01,670 --> 01:34:02,230
It looks steep.

966
01:34:02,830 --> 01:34:04,210
It's definitely just the rendering.

967
01:34:04,610 --> 01:34:04,830
Okay.

968
01:34:05,130 --> 01:34:09,230
And the other renderings, we had the designer and the consultant work together.

969
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:14,610
for this one especially to minimize the use of the funds with the consultant, it

970
01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:19,290
was us internally just cropping it to try to make it visually clear that the

971
01:34:19,290 --> 01:34:21,710
parking wouldn't be there and there would be a ramp, but that is definitely

972
01:34:21,710 --> 01:34:26,290
not what it would look like. Okay, thank you. You mentioned a landing. Where does

973
01:34:26,290 --> 01:34:30,410
the landing need to be within the ramp system? And so one of the things that

974
01:34:30,410 --> 01:34:33,470
the renderings again didn't address because it was just to get that

975
01:34:33,470 --> 01:34:40,750
image out was we want to be able to provide access to the ramp as you're going up.

976
01:34:41,010 --> 01:34:44,710
So if you're not using it for accessibility but you're walking up to it, you don't have

977
01:34:44,710 --> 01:34:46,630
to walk in one entrance or walk in the other entrance.

978
01:34:47,130 --> 01:34:50,830
So where the handrails aren't required is where we have an ADA compliant landing.

979
01:34:51,170 --> 01:34:54,710
So we could remove the handrails there to add access or entrance into the ramp.

980
01:34:54,970 --> 01:34:56,450
So that's where the landings are.

981
01:34:56,770 --> 01:35:02,510
It's just kind of a less steep area where handrails won't be required.

982
01:35:02,510 --> 01:35:06,470
And that's what our consultant would review on that final design to try to accommodate

983
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:09,130
that once we know where we're actually placing it.

984
01:35:09,670 --> 01:35:17,050
When I walked the area, myself on Saturday I found that it seemed like the trajectory

985
01:35:17,050 --> 01:35:24,470
if we started the rail closer to the existing bench that's a gravel area currently seems

986
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:31,250
like we'd have a better ability to bring the path straight down and maybe not take

987
01:35:31,250 --> 01:35:38,470
out a tree but to not cut in so far. So hopefully that can be a possibility with.

988
01:35:39,070 --> 01:35:44,930
And definitely we are looking into how to not remove any trees. With the least impactful design

989
01:35:44,930 --> 01:35:50,230
with the parking without the parking there's a chance that one tree will have to be removed.

990
01:35:51,070 --> 01:35:56,030
But if we don't allow parking and we're able to adjust that ramp and this is not guaranteed

991
01:35:56,030 --> 01:36:00,910
we could possibly save that tree. And we have to look with trees as well as not just actual

992
01:36:00,910 --> 01:36:05,050
footprint that would go over the tree, but the root system, because if our work ends

993
01:36:05,050 --> 01:36:08,890
up cutting into very important roots, then the tree wouldn't be healthy and wouldn't

994
01:36:08,890 --> 01:36:10,770
be able to survive, and we'd have to remove it regardless.

995
01:36:11,310 --> 01:36:12,690
That makes sense, thank you.

996
01:36:14,750 --> 01:36:23,450
With the, if parking on Fanel ended up being an option, I know you said we don't want

997
01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:26,890
to put the parking in front of a residence.

998
01:36:26,890 --> 01:36:36,610
residents. It seems like it's either one residence or another because there are residents there

999
01:36:36,610 --> 01:36:41,390
on Forester Street right across from the park. So I'd like to know a little bit more about

1000
01:36:41,390 --> 01:36:45,310
your thought on that, why it can't be across from, say, somebody on the other side of Yant

1001
01:36:45,310 --> 01:36:47,650
Street because you do have that bridge and then more space.

1002
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:53,170
With the bridge, so we can't place parking across the bridge. It's too narrow to safely

1003
01:36:53,170 --> 01:36:59,630
have vehicles go through and then we either have homes or condos on either side of the bridge on Yon

1004
01:36:59,630 --> 01:37:07,410
Street and so when I referenced directly in front of public property it would be there's potentially

1005
01:37:07,410 --> 01:37:13,550
homes across the street but our actual project is directly in front or directly adjacent to

1006
01:37:13,550 --> 01:37:19,730
public property so we're not placing in front of someone's yard pretty much or going in frontage

1007
01:37:19,730 --> 01:37:23,290
or cutting into their sidewalk or park or barrier,

1008
01:37:23,530 --> 01:37:25,870
this is solely in front of public property.

1009
01:37:26,530 --> 01:37:28,970
And so we wouldn't be able to find that on Yon Street.

1010
01:37:30,610 --> 01:37:33,770
And then on Fennel, there's definitely room for that

1011
01:37:33,770 --> 01:37:36,470
on the north side of Fennel where the trail entrance is.

1012
01:37:36,710 --> 01:37:38,910
So that wouldn't be, it would be across from the condos,

1013
01:37:38,910 --> 01:37:41,030
but it's not directly fronting the condos,

1014
01:37:41,690 --> 01:37:43,330
which at Three Words and Forestry

1015
01:37:43,330 --> 01:37:45,650
we're directly fronting public property

1016
01:37:45,650 --> 01:37:48,150
or across the street from private property,

1017
01:37:48,150 --> 01:37:52,650
but we're directly fronting or cutting into public property.

1018
01:37:53,210 --> 01:38:02,430
Okay. And I noticed with the now you said we can't say yes without a consultant, but that also means you can't say no, right?

1019
01:38:02,830 --> 01:38:10,050
Correct. And so in general, accessible parking at that trail entrance on finale is actually really good. And we're looking into that.

1020
01:38:10,050 --> 01:38:14,710
So even without this project, that's something that we're going to look into pursuing.

1021
01:38:15,190 --> 01:38:20,570
It's whether or not that parking can be considered the accessible parking for three weirs.

1022
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:21,870
We don't know that yet.

1023
01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:22,650
Okay.

1024
01:38:22,850 --> 01:38:23,650
Thank you very much.

1025
01:38:23,650 --> 01:38:29,570
But if I could expand on that, I think if you take a look at there's a common sense test to distance.

1026
01:38:30,170 --> 01:38:38,850
So if you're looking at the now to three weirs is an average person going to consider that proximal or even the same.

1027
01:38:38,850 --> 01:38:44,190
So when we're looking at this, but I also do want to stress really that you have that issue,

1028
01:38:44,510 --> 01:38:48,470
but you also have the fact that we're providing parking. So the parking

1029
01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:55,590
with multiple spaces is what creates on its own the requirement. So there are two issues

1030
01:38:55,590 --> 01:39:01,210
overlapping, but I do want to stress what we're trying to do is all the feedback that the

1031
01:39:01,210 --> 01:39:05,630
community has shared, we're trying to make sure that it's shared, analyzed, and explained.

1032
01:39:05,630 --> 01:39:11,970
because it's it's also neighborhood access and different access points to a

1033
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:17,190
long trail so in this case that's where it is and it's also brought up an

1034
01:39:17,190 --> 01:39:22,570
opportunity to evaluate whether adding right now it's maybe hard for some

1035
01:39:22,570 --> 01:39:27,850
people to understand but the lot behind town hall here is actually a public

1036
01:39:27,850 --> 01:39:33,370
parking lot for access to the play field and and the trail system there

1037
01:39:33,370 --> 01:39:48,530
But when we're looking at this as Deputy Director Ramirez has identified, it may be similar to what we have on Heather that an ADA spot to allow potential access to the trail system is warranted at that location.

1038
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:52,410
So this may be more of an additional idea rather than a or.

1039
01:39:52,410 --> 01:39:59,590
Okay. And so, you've got your microphone on, Steve. So my question's not to you as

1040
01:39:59,590 --> 01:40:05,050
town manager, but as our risk manager for the town. Can you give us kind of an

1041
01:40:05,050 --> 01:40:09,850
overall assessment about risk management in terms of what we're talking about?

1042
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:17,770
Yes. I think there's a few things. Obviously, as the attorney has identified,

1043
01:40:18,250 --> 01:40:21,510
you have to make, you have a formally adopted plan that's required by state

1044
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:25,610
and federal law. I also want to pay attention to something Deputy Director

1045
01:40:25,610 --> 01:40:30,790
Brismira said which is in order for us to obtain federal funding we have to have

1046
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:37,190
a in-place adopted and compliant ADA transition. We are in the process of

1047
01:40:37,190 --> 01:40:44,530
obtaining federal funding for USDA loan application pending for our

1048
01:40:44,530 --> 01:40:50,410
wastewater reclamation plant facility and we have also applied for a FEMA

1049
01:40:50,410 --> 01:40:57,390
reimbursement for the wastewater recycle line. So slightly different risk management question,

1050
01:40:57,990 --> 01:41:04,070
but if our plan goes out of compliance, we potentially lose the opportunity to participate

1051
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:08,210
in those federal funding sources. So just a consequence that you would need to know.

1052
01:41:08,750 --> 01:41:14,970
From a risk management perspective, the removing parking option I don't think is as

1053
01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:16,910
as scary as one might think.

1054
01:41:17,170 --> 01:41:20,210
You do have to formally modify the plan,

1055
01:41:20,630 --> 01:41:22,270
but again, here we're talking about,

1056
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:23,730
and this is why I want to be real simple,

1057
01:41:24,530 --> 01:41:28,610
parking place, facility, removing it.

1058
01:41:28,930 --> 01:41:31,350
So there is a risk, I won't say there's always

1059
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:34,530
the potential of a litigation

1060
01:41:34,530 --> 01:41:36,090
or somebody trying to sue,

1061
01:41:36,230 --> 01:41:37,690
especially if you took away something,

1062
01:41:38,230 --> 01:41:39,490
but I think in this case,

1063
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:43,170
given the neighborhood support or preference,

1064
01:41:43,330 --> 01:41:44,490
I would say maybe not support,

1065
01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:48,170
but preference for the least invasive option.

1066
01:41:48,730 --> 01:41:50,110
What this does is it removes,

1067
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:52,890
and many people may not know the history of that neighborhood,

1068
01:41:53,410 --> 01:41:56,030
but the parking is not at grade,

1069
01:41:56,230 --> 01:41:58,930
and it really is the raised parking

1070
01:41:58,930 --> 01:42:01,770
that creates a lot of the ADA compliance issues.

1071
01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:03,230
So removing the parking,

1072
01:42:03,770 --> 01:42:06,030
and I think in many cases, the neighborhood,

1073
01:42:06,250 --> 01:42:08,150
if it's an access point to the neighborhood,

1074
01:42:08,910 --> 01:42:11,590
the neighborhood has other ADA paths

1075
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:13,450
that we've brought to the street,

1076
01:42:13,450 --> 01:42:19,890
So it would be similar there's a path that goes down the the middle of the neighborhood that connects into

1077
01:42:21,110 --> 01:42:24,190
Forester Park and then that connects to the larger paths system

1078
01:42:24,190 --> 01:42:27,790
We still have one gap and I'm not going to bring that up for the time being on my last meeting

1079
01:42:27,790 --> 01:42:30,950
But there is one gap that we have to work on in terms of that

1080
01:42:30,950 --> 01:42:35,730
but I think from a staff level we see this as a

1081
01:42:36,490 --> 01:42:39,970
measured risk but one that if it is in if it is

1082
01:42:39,970 --> 01:42:43,030
the best one that meets the community's preference,

1083
01:42:43,410 --> 01:42:47,090
we believe it's a risk that is supportable and defensible,

1084
01:42:47,630 --> 01:42:49,350
probably more defensible than arguing

1085
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:54,670
that the ADA parking space for three weirs is at Finnell.

1086
01:42:55,210 --> 01:42:57,910
I'm just gonna say it's, we've removed the parking,

1087
01:42:58,510 --> 01:43:01,130
it's not necessary, it's meant to be an access point

1088
01:43:01,130 --> 01:43:01,810
for the neighborhood.

1089
01:43:02,330 --> 01:43:06,050
We believe it's a defensible and reasonable response.

1090
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:14,090
Thank you very much. So we'll go around one more time. The public, I'm coming to you soon. So we'll start on our right.

1091
01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:21,910
Hiller, Council Member Tripp, would you like to ask any questions of either public works or attorney or our risk manager?

1092
01:43:22,910 --> 01:43:34,230
Yes. So I want to, well, first of all, thank you for the really hard work and obvious iterations you've been through to make this work.

1093
01:43:34,230 --> 01:43:40,590
I wondered if we could look at I have a specific question about the design options on three weirs

1094
01:43:40,590 --> 01:43:46,050
Would it be possible to look at slide 10? I think it's 10 design option to

1095
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:49,000
Yes

1096
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,920
So on design option to

1097
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,460
the meandering

1098
01:43:58,370 --> 01:44:06,870
More of a meandering path, but as a result you don't need apparently the railing right and then I wanted to move to

1099
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:14,210
design option four, which is new, where you've taken out the parking stall, which I like that idea.

1100
01:44:14,930 --> 01:44:19,390
Is there anything that would preclude you from combining those?

1101
01:44:19,630 --> 01:44:27,930
I'm not saying that this would be the preference, but you could have the meandering path with no rail and take out the parking.

1102
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:30,350
Is there anything that do you see what I'm saying?

1103
01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:31,050
Yes.

1104
01:44:32,050 --> 01:44:46,890
So, no, this is up to council direction. What we were trying to do was not take up so much of a large footprint in the park, and the meandering takes it out. Yes. And depending where we terminate the meandering, we could potentially have to take out more trees.

1105
01:44:47,370 --> 01:44:55,270
Right. And there's some underground utilities there, some irrigation and different utility lines that we would have to either adjust or relocate, which would increase the cost of the project.

1106
01:44:55,630 --> 01:44:58,590
Right. But it would be possible to combine those two.

1107
01:44:58,590 --> 01:44:59,970
All right, goodlifed.

1108
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,420
That was the preference. That was my question. And then a lot of people use this trail, including

1109
01:45:10,420 --> 01:45:14,920
myself, of many different abilities, including myself. So I think it's really important to

1110
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:19,480
make the trail personally accessible. I mean, I just think that's important. But my question

1111
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:27,860
is, under the ADA and Three Wears Park, what is the facility that we're obliged and

1112
01:45:27,860 --> 01:45:31,180
maybe this is a legal or a combined legal engineering.

1113
01:45:31,780 --> 01:45:35,000
Is it the path that we have to make ADI compliant

1114
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,740
or is it the green area and the bench

1115
01:45:38,740 --> 01:45:41,260
that we're making ADA compliant that's a facility?

1116
01:45:41,980 --> 01:45:45,380
I'm thinking it's the path, but am I correct

1117
01:45:45,380 --> 01:45:47,360
or is there other facilities at the park

1118
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,500
that we're really needing to make ADA compliant?

1119
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,260
So the facilities for these parks is kind of two-fold.

1120
01:45:53,420 --> 01:45:56,060
It's the parking itself and the access

1121
01:45:56,060 --> 01:45:57,980
this to the pedestrian bridge and pedestrian trail.

1122
01:45:58,260 --> 01:46:02,300
Okay, so it's really the parking and the bridge,

1123
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,420
not really access to the park per se.

1124
01:46:05,860 --> 01:46:06,040
Correct.

1125
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,000
And then my final question is,

1126
01:46:08,980 --> 01:46:10,180
and I think Steve said this,

1127
01:46:10,220 --> 01:46:11,600
but I just wanna be sure I was clear.

1128
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,220
If we went with option four or some option

1129
01:46:15,220 --> 01:46:16,940
that removes the parking,

1130
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,160
then as currently envisioned,

1131
01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:23,160
we would not need to find a place

1132
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,200
for replacement parking on Fanel.

1133
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,340
I mean, we might, but it's not required.

1134
01:46:29,250 --> 01:46:36,110
Yeah, so if the parking were removed there, then there would need to be an amendment to the transition plan.

1135
01:46:36,330 --> 01:46:42,170
And part of that amendment process would analyze whether or not parking were required elsewhere

1136
01:46:42,170 --> 01:46:47,290
or if some other parking would provide comparable access.

1137
01:46:47,290 --> 01:46:57,030
So it's not a given that we would be out of the woods legally if we went with no parking

1138
01:46:57,030 --> 01:47:01,970
at three we're we'd still need to make that analysis correct yeah but I also think you

1139
01:47:01,970 --> 01:47:07,970
have the ability to identify and say based on additional information community access

1140
01:47:07,970 --> 01:47:14,990
I you have an ability to create the record to show why the change was made but I mean

1141
01:47:14,990 --> 01:47:17,730
and you have to be able, as Gary is saying,

1142
01:47:18,150 --> 01:47:21,290
town attorney, you're gonna have to explain the change.

1143
01:47:21,690 --> 01:47:24,110
So the change can be we're focusing on

1144
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:26,290
the accessibility of the path

1145
01:47:26,990 --> 01:47:30,050
and do not have the need for the parking.

1146
01:47:30,250 --> 01:47:33,910
So I think there's a way to proceed with that course.

1147
01:47:34,570 --> 01:47:38,250
Also just something that I would comment in general

1148
01:47:38,250 --> 01:47:41,230
on both of the general landscaping.

1149
01:47:41,230 --> 01:47:45,270
to the extent a tree or two may need to be removed.

1150
01:47:45,410 --> 01:47:49,210
If you remove the shoulder, raised shoulder parking areas,

1151
01:47:49,650 --> 01:47:52,070
depending on the facilities that are in place,

1152
01:47:52,190 --> 01:47:56,250
you have opportunities perhaps to add additional trees

1153
01:47:56,810 --> 01:47:59,490
in that location, especially where they,

1154
01:47:59,850 --> 01:48:01,790
in proximity to the existing path.

1155
01:48:02,090 --> 01:48:04,310
So that may be something as we work

1156
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:06,350
on a final landscape design.

1157
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:09,410
And as Deputy Director Ramirez pointed out,

1158
01:48:09,410 --> 01:48:15,670
But a lot of the rendings are to show that we can come back with a complete or fill-in

1159
01:48:15,670 --> 01:48:16,470
where possible.

1160
01:48:17,410 --> 01:48:20,210
I hear the interest in trying to avoid the rails.

1161
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:25,810
So here is again where you have, again, what I'm going to politely say is we have a lot

1162
01:48:25,810 --> 01:48:27,590
of interest in competing positions.

1163
01:48:28,090 --> 01:48:35,830
So the path will take up more, but perhaps be less invasive if it doesn't – a mandering

1164
01:48:35,830 --> 01:48:39,170
path may look less invasive without having the handrails.

1165
01:48:39,690 --> 01:48:44,170
So there may be trade-offs in how the council and the community are evaluating.

1166
01:48:44,910 --> 01:48:51,070
What does that do to the peaceful, tranquil nature of the facility?

1167
01:48:51,250 --> 01:48:56,190
So I just want to point that out is that there could be some opportunity there, but

1168
01:48:56,190 --> 01:49:02,050
that obviously means in comparison to the rendering that you're seeing, the access

1169
01:49:02,050 --> 01:49:05,250
point would move further down on forest.

1170
01:49:05,250 --> 01:49:09,390
And that's not necessarily a problem because people are on a pedestrian path, so they would

1171
01:49:09,390 --> 01:49:10,750
just that entry point.

1172
01:49:11,050 --> 01:49:16,730
But again, I do think you have some opportunity for some landscaping and trees that could

1173
01:49:16,730 --> 01:49:18,970
potentially help to soften that impact.

1174
01:49:18,970 --> 01:49:19,390
Okay.

1175
01:49:19,630 --> 01:49:24,850
And I could just conclude my question on the plan, and this goes back to the parking

1176
01:49:24,850 --> 01:49:26,370
issue and relocating parking.

1177
01:49:27,010 --> 01:49:33,830
The plan has, it's like five or six words that say we'll address parking, at least

1178
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:39,350
the version I saw it was a chart and it said, well, it's very, very brief. Is there something

1179
01:49:40,130 --> 01:49:45,150
another document that is more expansive in terms of changing the plan or is the plan really

1180
01:49:47,110 --> 01:49:52,350
that schedule you showed us that is very brief what we say we're going to do? Maybe you could

1181
01:49:52,350 --> 01:49:56,170
read it to us. I can't really see what we said we're going to do. And that's just a quick

1182
01:49:56,170 --> 01:50:00,710
excerpt of the entire document. Is there more about this particular part? I guess that's

1183
01:50:00,710 --> 01:50:03,450
what I'm trying to understand when we're saying we're going to have to revise the plan. Is

1184
01:50:03,450 --> 01:50:09,510
Is it just revising that little piece of it, or is there more expansion of what we said

1185
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:13,030
we would do at Three Wears Park, or is that really what we said we'd do?

1186
01:50:13,450 --> 01:50:14,310
Did you see what I'm saying?

1187
01:50:14,430 --> 01:50:14,790
Yes.

1188
01:50:15,210 --> 01:50:16,650
And I see Gary moving towards it.

1189
01:50:16,670 --> 01:50:16,870
Yes.

1190
01:50:17,070 --> 01:50:23,170
So it is that piece of it, but revising and taking that piece out might require a change

1191
01:50:23,170 --> 01:50:27,010
or addition somewhere else in the plan in order to ensure accessibility.

1192
01:50:28,370 --> 01:50:33,330
But that said, I also think that's why we're trying to say you can create

1193
01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:39,610
your rationale and your justification for the modification in the action that you do.

1194
01:50:40,530 --> 01:50:46,530
The ADA transition plan is a monster document with lots of appendix and research.

1195
01:50:47,130 --> 01:50:52,370
So in many cases, the Council has adopted a policy statement in general about our public

1196
01:50:52,370 --> 01:50:54,630
parking facility shall be ADA accessible.

1197
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:57,050
So that triggers that.

1198
01:50:57,310 --> 01:51:01,170
I don't know that there was a point that somebody said, okay, there are six spaces

1199
01:51:01,170 --> 01:51:01,510
here.

1200
01:51:01,630 --> 01:51:02,450
We need to do that.

1201
01:51:02,450 --> 01:51:06,870
So and that's where as staff was showing you they've been working through all of the parks

1202
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:10,030
This is not this is not a neighborhood issue

1203
01:51:10,030 --> 01:51:14,790
And this is something that the council adopted through a you know

1204
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:21,610
The the last ADA transition process was almost a year-long plus process with a number of community meetings and such

1205
01:51:21,610 --> 01:51:23,570
But I do think in this case

1206
01:51:24,110 --> 01:51:30,590
Again, we are modifying it midterm, but I think it can be justified and the result would be

1207
01:51:30,590 --> 01:51:35,110
you know focusing on again if you're thinking about it is that ADA accessible

1208
01:51:35,110 --> 01:51:39,210
parking if there's no parking you just have to be kind of fill in and say

1209
01:51:39,210 --> 01:51:44,910
community requirements parking has not been needed to provide access to the

1210
01:51:44,910 --> 01:51:48,870
trailhead and something like that there may be some minor ways to I think

1211
01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:53,330
provide a basis to support going forward but the town attorney would have

1212
01:51:53,330 --> 01:51:56,790
to tell you there there is some risk and I will say that but I think it's

1213
01:51:56,790 --> 01:52:00,030
It's modest, especially with the public record

1214
01:52:00,030 --> 01:52:01,430
that would probably be generated.

1215
01:52:01,770 --> 01:52:06,330
But with ADA, we would be doing you a disservice

1216
01:52:06,330 --> 01:52:09,390
to not say that there are ambulance-chaser attorneys

1217
01:52:09,850 --> 01:52:12,590
that go out of their way to try to find situations,

1218
01:52:12,830 --> 01:52:14,350
especially with public agencies.

1219
01:52:14,810 --> 01:52:16,390
Public agencies don't have.

1220
01:52:17,110 --> 01:52:20,890
We don't get to use budget or funding

1221
01:52:21,310 --> 01:52:23,410
as an excuse for noncompliance.

1222
01:52:23,410 --> 01:52:29,190
So, man, knock on wood, it's been a while since we've had one go through town, but there

1223
01:52:29,190 --> 01:52:34,850
have been situations where that's been the case, the town attorney can probably advise

1224
01:52:34,850 --> 01:52:39,630
of others, but I think we think it's a measured nominal risk.

1225
01:52:40,710 --> 01:52:45,010
And then just finally, I wanted to disclose that I have met, I'm not sure if I need

1226
01:52:45,010 --> 01:52:49,950
to disclose for a legislative matter, but I have met with the neighbors,

1227
01:52:53,370 --> 01:52:53,370
some of

1228
01:52:53,370 --> 01:52:54,270
over the weekend.

1229
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:57,680
Mayor.

1230
01:52:57,820 --> 01:53:01,260
To finish with your question, Vice Mayor, do you have any final questions?

1231
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:03,120
Maybe just one question.

1232
01:53:03,820 --> 01:53:10,800
It seems what I'm hearing is that, and it may be part of wordsmithing that there's a hierarchy,

1233
01:53:10,980 --> 01:53:18,020
I mean, a hierarchy in terms of this space that if we consider removing the ADA parking

1234
01:53:18,020 --> 01:53:24,980
but are focusing on the pathway to make it ADA compliant and preserve as much of the open space

1235
01:53:26,220 --> 01:53:30,920
there is the town manager said we could make an argument and I just but I wanted

1236
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:37,240
to just have reviewed again it's not necessarily the fact that the park three

1237
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:42,560
where park is a is a park I mean some of the residents talked about how when the

1238
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:47,340
project was when Washington when park was developed that it was considered just

1239
01:53:47,340 --> 01:53:58,800
open space. So whether it was just open space or a park is the issue of parking an issue

1240
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:05,200
we have to address anyway in this regard. Let me be real simple. Yes, it's a publicly

1241
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:11,020
owned facility. So at this point, the parking is public parking owned by the town of Yellenville

1242
01:54:11,020 --> 01:54:18,420
that is not ADA compliant. The pathway is not ADA accessible and needs to be modified

1243
01:54:18,420 --> 01:54:26,320
to meet current ADA accessible. I understand the fact that some people may not see it as

1244
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:33,300
a park, but it's a town-owned property, whatever we want to call it. And it was, it does

1245
01:54:33,300 --> 01:54:43,240
also have a stormwater retention, not a retention, a reclamation focus, but it is town-owned.

1246
01:54:43,940 --> 01:54:46,720
It has a parking facility and it has a path system.

1247
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:51,360
So I want you really to think, if you just think it's simplicity, it's not the park,

1248
01:54:52,020 --> 01:54:59,400
it's the path in to be ADA accessible, and it's the parking spaces adjacent on the

1249
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:00,040
park parcel.

1250
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:05,300
So if you just focus on those two, I think it'll help make the discussion point simpler

1251
01:55:05,300 --> 01:55:06,620
because that's what we're focusing on.

1252
01:55:06,780 --> 01:55:12,340
I think some people don't realize is that that raised asphalt space, which is considered

1253
01:55:12,340 --> 01:55:18,660
parking for many more traditional neighborhoods or sidewalks in a curb, but the town easement

1254
01:55:18,660 --> 01:55:24,240
runs through that raised asphalt area and becomes a part of town property.

1255
01:55:24,460 --> 01:55:27,860
So we were responsible for that space.

1256
01:55:27,860 --> 01:55:36,480
That's correct my vice mayor night and that is it is the correct terminology in Washington Park is raised parking shoulder

1257
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:41,480
And that's where you have the 8 foot and then you have some filled-in asphalt sections

1258
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:47,480
Which are simply filled in asphalt sections between the 8 foot there is no sidewalk system

1259
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:54,340
The neighborhood was not built with a sidewalk system nor with the intention of a connected sidewalk system

1260
01:55:54,340 --> 01:55:56,640
But it was designed to have

1261
01:55:58,220 --> 01:56:04,800
and that's subsequently the off-street parking was paved in, thus creating the raised parking

1262
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:05,580
shoulder dilemma.

1263
01:56:05,940 --> 01:56:06,600
Thank you.

1264
01:56:07,660 --> 01:56:08,840
Are there any questions?

1265
01:56:09,420 --> 01:56:11,340
Council Member Reeve, if you have more questions.

1266
01:56:11,860 --> 01:56:20,620
I just had a follow-up design question on the, if we were to choose the no parking

1267
01:56:20,620 --> 01:56:26,780
at Three-Wear Park and we removed the raised shoulder.

1268
01:56:27,580 --> 01:56:38,220
Would it not be possible to start the ramp at the very eastern edge whereas now the parking

1269
01:56:38,220 --> 01:56:51,040
shoulder and bringing that pathway to the bridge starting there so it's a really, really

1270
01:56:51,040 --> 01:57:03,400
gentle rise so that you don't have to have any kind of handrails and it kind of mimics

1271
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:13,540
the access that we already enjoy to that space which is asphalt and then you turn

1272
01:57:13,540 --> 01:57:18,960
and go on to the the bridge. Yes so if we move the parking all together that

1273
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:23,640
gives us more space to adjust that ramp up to the pedestrian bridge so if we

1274
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:28,040
stick to the option shown here that entrance might adjust a little bit to

1275
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:31,380
come closer to the actual street to take up that eight foot where the

1276
01:57:31,380 --> 01:57:37,220
shoulder was and we could potentially elongate that ramp to ease the transition down and remove

1277
01:57:37,220 --> 01:57:43,380
the handrail requirements. We could also potentially do a combination of the meandering through the park

1278
01:57:44,220 --> 01:57:49,040
to go up to the, if there's no parking now, directly to the street. So if we remove the

1279
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:56,940
parking based on direction we receive we can adjust the actual steepness of the ADA ramp

1280
01:57:56,940 --> 01:58:02,920
to try to eliminate the need for handrails or make it a little more gently sloped.

1281
01:58:04,260 --> 01:58:09,440
However, it would depend on direction and how much of the actual park we want to construct into.

1282
01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:17,660
And is there some requirement for distance between the traveling and what would be the ADA ramp?

1283
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:22,600
I mean, is there like a two foot or one foot or three feet?

1284
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:29,720
It would just need to meet ADA guidelines for the flat area in front of an ADA ramp or entrance.

1285
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:34,580
There's the, if you want to look at the existing trail system that runs through the neighborhood,

1286
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:37,220
where we have an ADA ramp that leads directly into the street.

1287
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:45,620
We would just need to construct the two grades or the ADA complaint grade directly in front of that ramp entrance.

1288
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:48,400
Thank you.

1289
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:54,690
have any additional questions and I have no additional questions one more

1290
01:58:54,690 --> 01:59:00,570
opportunity any council members have any final questions before I introduce

1291
01:59:01,530 --> 01:59:07,770
public comments see none okay now it's time for public comment I promise you

1292
01:59:07,770 --> 01:59:13,250
I'd remind everybody how this is going to work so we have public comments that

1293
01:59:13,250 --> 01:59:23,030
were mailed in so we're going to ask the I think the deputy town clerk to read

1294
01:59:23,030 --> 01:59:32,110
those first then we will go to live public comment and when we get to the

1295
01:59:32,110 --> 01:59:38,090
live public comment the same way for anything that we read we have a limit

1296
01:59:38,090 --> 01:59:44,790
of three minutes and when you come up and if you have questions we will jot those

1297
01:59:44,790 --> 01:59:51,390
questions down and then when public comment is closed we will have staff or

1298
01:59:51,390 --> 01:59:55,370
the relevant person answer those questions so all of your comments should

1299
01:59:55,370 --> 01:59:59,870
be addressed to the council and not the audience so

1300
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,940
Hopefully that's clear, and then after that's over, it will come back to the council for deliberation.

1301
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:15,920
So with that, could you read the public comments that we've already received, and I know we've received a petition,

1302
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:23,560
but we don't need to read all the names of the petition, but if you could read the title of the petition and how many people signed it,

1303
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:26,440
I think that would be adequate.

1304
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:29,720
Is that correct, town attorney, for that?

1305
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:31,100
Okay, thank you.

1306
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,920
Okay, Mayor, we received a public comment

1307
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:36,860
and a petition from Donna Bruner.

1308
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,140
There were 47 signatures on the petition

1309
02:00:40,140 --> 02:00:41,860
and the petition was titled.

1310
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:05,920
Do you want a copy of it, Hillary?

1311
02:01:07,900 --> 02:01:11,240
Petition in opposition to Three Wears Park Project.

1312
02:01:14,250 --> 02:01:15,830
Her comment then reads,

1313
02:01:15,830 --> 02:01:21,690
Mr. Farrens, it seems the opposition to the Three Wears Park ADA parking project as previously

1314
02:01:21,690 --> 02:01:27,490
submitted has taken on a life of its own. The good that comes out of all of this is that the

1315
02:01:27,490 --> 02:01:33,150
residents of Washington Park feel a greater sense of community amongst themselves. The proposed ADA

1316
02:01:33,150 --> 02:01:38,350
project has certainly become a vehicle for us to get to know our neighbors better. We stand in

1317
02:01:38,350 --> 02:01:43,750
unity to our commitment to preserve the green space also known as Three Wears Park. Recently,

1318
02:01:43,750 --> 02:01:48,230
Recently I informed you that we would be gathering signatures on a petition to opposition to the

1319
02:01:48,230 --> 02:01:51,350
proposed project as previously and currently designed.

1320
02:01:51,850 --> 02:01:56,430
To date we have gathered 47 signatures supporting the preservation of our green space.

1321
02:01:57,230 --> 02:01:59,710
I have attached a copy of the petition for your records.

1322
02:02:00,330 --> 02:02:05,990
While 47 signatures may not be viewed as a lot, our community is very small and I

1323
02:02:05,990 --> 02:02:07,650
think those signatures speak volumes.

1324
02:02:08,210 --> 02:02:12,050
Furthermore, there was not one person we asked for a signature that supported

1325
02:02:12,050 --> 02:02:16,950
the town's current plan for the ADA parking. The residents feel strongly that the preservation

1326
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:23,030
of the park is of the utmost importance. We do support a modified plan of the existing approach

1327
02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:28,550
to the bridge, should it become necessary to become ADA compliant. If you should have any

1328
02:02:28,550 --> 02:02:34,950
further questions, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Donna Brunner, 27 Forrester Lane.

1329
02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:42,390
We received an additional public comment from Jeannie Tidal to

1330
02:02:45,340 --> 02:02:46,540
the Yontville Town Council.

1331
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:52,120
The Town Council has been in the process of looking at ways to make the three-wears park ADA compliant

1332
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:55,160
and has come up with several renditions of how that might look.

1333
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,480
Unfortunately, the suggested recommendations are far from being embraced

1334
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:02,460
by the people that live in Washington Park and those who visit it.

1335
02:03:03,340 --> 02:03:09,040
A meeting with Councilwoman Hillary Tripp on Sunday, March 19th, was attended by interested residents.

1336
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:11,860
She did a good job of bringing us all up to speed.

1337
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:17,960
Unfortunately, the solutions that have been proposed would do nothing to enhance our precious green space

1338
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:21,620
and creates a walking path right through the middle of the space with handrails.

1339
02:03:22,180 --> 02:03:29,960
Not only is the walkway a steep incline, but an unsightly cut into the perfectly lovely area and is not a good solution.

1340
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:35,020
The existing pathway to the bridge and thus the town's walking path is not ADA compliant.

1341
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:41,280
The residents would like for the existing approach to the bridge to be brought up to ADA compliance.

1342
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:46,940
This sounds a lot more, this makes a lot more sense than carving up our green space.

1343
02:03:47,540 --> 02:03:56,340
It was brought up in the meeting at the park that a landscape engineer would be better able to design a way for the existing path to the bridge to be brought up to ADA requirements.

1344
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:02,920
Also, an ADA parking place would be perfectly placed on Yant Street at the entrance to the town walkaway.

1345
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:02,960
Okay,

1346
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:11,700
something to be taken into consideration is that Three Wears Park is not listed as

1347
02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:14,340
a park on the Yontville directory that lists parks.

1348
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:16,600
When I purchased my home, it was not yet built.

1349
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:23,080
I selected Lotte at 28 Forester Lane because of the promise of a open green space across

1350
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:23,700
the street.

1351
02:04:23,900 --> 02:04:26,340
Never once was it called a park when I purchased it.

1352
02:04:27,020 --> 02:04:29,980
Please listen to us and do not carve up the open green space.

1353
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:34,260
Please bring the existing pathway up to ADA standards and protect the open green

1354
02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:35,920
space that makes our neighborhood special.

1355
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,500
Thank you, Jeannie Tidal.

1356
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:44,580
We received an additional comment from Jose Holly Podmesh.

1357
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:47,910
The plan is weird.

1358
02:04:48,370 --> 02:04:49,810
I have sympathy for the disabled,

1359
02:04:50,010 --> 02:04:52,190
but this plan brings them closer to Hopper Creek.

1360
02:04:52,670 --> 02:04:54,350
Some will lose control of wheelchair.

1361
02:04:54,710 --> 02:04:57,030
Fall in the town will be paying millions in damages

1362
02:04:57,030 --> 02:04:58,710
apart from loss of life.

1363
02:04:59,110 --> 02:05:00,450
The plan is totally crazy.

1364
02:05:02,470 --> 02:05:04,650
And that concludes electronic public comment.

1365
02:05:05,070 --> 02:05:06,870
Thank you very much.

1366
02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:13,790
So, again, now it's time for anyone in the audience and you can see up on all the screens

1367
02:05:13,790 --> 02:05:17,690
the little clock that three minutes is running, but you don't really have to watch it all.

1368
02:05:17,870 --> 02:05:20,490
I'll let you know when you're pretty close to the end of your time.

1369
02:05:20,730 --> 02:05:26,190
And again, remember, if you have a question, we'll jot it down and answer all those when

1370
02:05:26,190 --> 02:05:27,890
public comment is finished.

1371
02:05:28,230 --> 02:05:30,390
So who would like to go first?

1372
02:05:31,970 --> 02:05:34,570
Just walk up to the podium and

1373
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:45,680
see Billy making movement.

1374
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:54,580
So if you could, yeah, don't be don't be nervous. Yeah, they're doing what we do.

1375
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:55,920
Here you go.

1376
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:01,580
My name is Billy. My name is Billy Hewitt.

1377
02:06:01,740 --> 02:06:08,420
I live at Nine Landy Way. I happen to be in the Washington Park neighborhood.

1378
02:06:09,340 --> 02:06:12,760
And I've kept some notes from some of the discussions.

1379
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:17,240
But I'd like to read what I had planned on writing.

1380
02:06:18,340 --> 02:06:26,100
I'd like to preserve, to the extent possible, and just what Ms. Ramirez said, the least

1381
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:34,560
impactful and the most enhancing corrections possible to preserve the character, the aesthetic,

1382
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:36,320
and the ambiance of the parks.

1383
02:06:37,500 --> 02:06:40,440
We have two parks in question here.

1384
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:47,420
And it is a neighborhood park, first of all, both parks are neighborhood parks.

1385
02:06:48,180 --> 02:06:54,080
And to that end, I request that the council investigate whether the provision in the ADA

1386
02:06:55,120 --> 02:07:01,840
allowing for alternative facilities is applicable to Forester Park and to three weirs.

1387
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:14,840
and so I have quotes from my ADA research. A key concept is that public programs and services

1388
02:07:15,190 --> 02:07:24,100
when viewed in their entirety must be accessible to people with disabilities, but not all facilities

1389
02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:33,240
of these must necessarily be made accessible. And on the chart it showed four or five parks

1390
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:47,000
in town. Two others are neighborhood parks that have ADA parking. So I think my example

1391
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:52,600
here is a swimming pool. If a town has five swimming pools, they don't all have to be

1392
02:07:52,600 --> 02:08:03,260
ADA accessible. If a town has five parks, has I interpreted it? They don't all have

1393
02:08:03,260 --> 02:08:09,120
to be accessible. And that's from the U.S. Department of Justice ADA update, a primer

1394
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:16,240
for state and local governments. And then I have from the Department of Justice guide

1395
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:23,820
for small towns if we decide to modify facilities to provide program accessibility and has more

1396
02:08:23,820 --> 02:08:30,480
than one facility available, such as when several ball fields are provided, only some

1397
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:41,180
of the facilities need to be made accessible. So my request is that the council consider

1398
02:08:41,180 --> 02:08:45,360
this further to investigate. Thank you very much.

1399
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:46,340
Thank you.

1400
02:08:46,340 --> 02:08:46,960
Thank you for your hard work.

1401
02:08:59,330 --> 02:09:06,370
Kimberly Cook, Billy kind of, my first question was, can't for Gary, can't the town use their

1402
02:09:06,370 --> 02:09:12,710
discretion to not make every facility accessible if it features, if features are offered elsewhere

1403
02:09:13,250 --> 02:09:18,550
and at what point does that stop, you know, I mean you can't, if one has a purple tree

1404
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:21,070
and one doesn't, does that mean the purple tree one has to be accessible?

1405
02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:33,850
Forest or park in that area that they're going to put this ADA space currently has room for two cars on the shoulder.

1406
02:09:34,810 --> 02:09:52,360
So is it really the intent of California law that both those spaces will be lost when we put in one ADA spot that doesn't really make sense when you have a park to just take away all the parking?

1407
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:55,880
parking and put in a spot that will rarely be allowed to be used.

1408
02:09:56,740 --> 02:10:02,180
Has anyone looked at putting in more parking there?

1409
02:10:02,740 --> 02:10:09,300
I mean, if we have one ADA spot, should we add one or two other head-in spots and redesign

1410
02:10:09,300 --> 02:10:14,020
it or is the no parking option available for this park?

1411
02:10:14,900 --> 02:10:17,640
Those questions have not been answered.

1412
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:28,460
And I'm going to steal one of your lines, if you don't mind, Will, that the key to arriving

1413
02:10:28,460 --> 02:10:32,560
at an excellent solution lies in the path that we choose to get there.

1414
02:10:32,780 --> 02:10:37,520
And the process that we use makes all the difference, not just in generating results

1415
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:38,880
but in building community.

1416
02:10:40,380 --> 02:10:46,460
And although there was community outreach done, unfortunately it was done after all

1417
02:10:46,460 --> 02:10:55,940
All the money was spent on hiring an engineering firm and they came out with what looked like

1418
02:10:55,940 --> 02:10:58,600
bill drawings, completely engineered drawings.

1419
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:06,200
And if the process had been turned around so that the first meeting was with the neighbors

1420
02:11:07,020 --> 02:11:13,780
to see what our input would be, we would have all said the integrity and aesthetics

1421
02:11:13,780 --> 02:11:15,200
of the park should come first.

1422
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:25,460
And we would have suggested hiring a landscape architect with ADA capabilities instead of an engineering firm.

1423
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:34,200
Yes, they meet the ADA requirements, but they're not taking into account all the aesthetics of the park and what the neighborhood has.

1424
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:39,820
So I think this might be an opportunity for us to turn that process around in the future.

1425
02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:41,860
I think it could have made a big difference.

1426
02:11:41,860 --> 02:11:44,200
It probably could have been done by now.

1427
02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:47,640
And that's it for my comments.

1428
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:48,580
Thank you.

1429
02:11:48,660 --> 02:11:49,020
Thank you.

1430
02:11:49,380 --> 02:11:49,740
Hi,

1431
02:11:53,470 --> 02:11:54,990
I'm Will Hayes.

1432
02:11:55,190 --> 02:11:56,250
I live in Yonfil.

1433
02:11:57,530 --> 02:12:00,250
Mayor, vice mayor, council members and staff.

1434
02:12:00,910 --> 02:12:06,390
First, I'd like to say that it's been a pleasure to engage with all of you

1435
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:09,190
and with other members of the community on this issue.

1436
02:12:09,470 --> 02:12:12,570
I've really enjoyed the cordiality of the interactions

1437
02:12:12,570 --> 02:12:16,470
and the openness and thoughtfulness of the conversations.

1438
02:12:17,090 --> 02:12:18,290
Thank you all for that.

1439
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:23,770
And also, I want to thank Deputy Director Ramirez

1440
02:12:24,070 --> 02:12:25,250
for the excellent presentation

1441
02:12:25,250 --> 02:12:27,470
and the incredible amount of effort

1442
02:12:27,470 --> 02:12:30,070
you all have put into this project already.

1443
02:12:30,450 --> 02:12:31,090
I get it.

1444
02:12:33,190 --> 02:12:37,890
My comment is about bringing the path up to ADA compliance

1445
02:12:39,510 --> 02:12:47,350
And to create a design that is effective and satisfying to the community, the community

1446
02:12:47,350 --> 02:12:52,430
needs to be involved, not just in the selection of a design, but in the process of creating

1447
02:12:52,430 --> 02:12:54,170
the design from the beginning.

1448
02:12:54,950 --> 02:13:00,890
Rather than presenting designs, then requesting feedback, the process should be reversed.

1449
02:13:00,890 --> 02:13:10,790
Community ideas, needs, interests, and preferences should be solicited prior to the development of any design concepts.

1450
02:13:11,650 --> 02:13:16,270
But this does not mean simply reversing the timing of community input.

1451
02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:18,510
It means changing the form of input.

1452
02:13:19,310 --> 02:13:25,870
The difference may seem subtle, but it is significant, and it lies in the nature of the playing field, which must be level.

1453
02:13:25,870 --> 02:13:36,570
To be invited in to offer suggestions is not the same as being invited into the process of generating the designs.

1454
02:13:37,530 --> 02:13:47,730
It may be useful to form an ad hoc committee of residents that works alongside public works, the council, parks and recs, and a landscape architect.

1455
02:13:47,730 --> 02:13:55,290
Also, it may be worth considering holding a series of community design charrettes, a

1456
02:13:55,290 --> 02:14:00,330
time-honored and fun method for rapid development of design concepts.

1457
02:14:01,630 --> 02:14:10,130
All this may seem cumbersome and slow, but the alternatives, as we are now seeing, is

1458
02:14:10,130 --> 02:14:13,090
not necessarily efficient or fast.

1459
02:14:14,150 --> 02:14:17,870
What matters most is not efficiency, but effectiveness.

1460
02:14:19,110 --> 02:14:24,070
By choosing such an approach, not only will we generate excellent results,

1461
02:14:24,250 --> 02:14:27,350
but we will also strengthen and enrich our community.

1462
02:14:28,930 --> 02:14:33,910
I think this is an exciting opportunity for the town and for us as a community

1463
02:14:33,910 --> 02:14:38,090
to use a collaborative process to generate solutions for Washington Park,

1464
02:14:38,090 --> 02:14:43,990
a process we might also use when appropriate for other situations that may arise.

1465
02:14:44,670 --> 02:14:47,830
I'm confident we will find a solution that will be satisfying,

1466
02:14:48,190 --> 02:14:52,330
and that the way we arrive at it will be even more so. Thank you.

1467
02:14:52,990 --> 02:14:57,390
Good. Thank you. Six seconds left. Good timing.

1468
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,200
Anybody else would like to come up and address the council?

1469
02:15:06,780 --> 02:15:12,380
I see nobody moving ahead, so I thank you for all your comments.

1470
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:25,800
And now I crafted a couple questions that I heard out of that that seem to mostly go to our town attorney.

1471
02:15:26,380 --> 02:15:29,100
So if I've got this wrong, it's all you're taking notes to.

1472
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:35,400
So one question was, do all facilities need to be ADA compliant?

1473
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:40,380
And then the second part, because we're a small town,

1474
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,500
do only some need to be ADA compliant?

1475
02:15:43,740 --> 02:15:45,100
So a compound question.

1476
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:46,640
Yeah.

1477
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:51,900
So there is a standard that was mentioned in the presentation,

1478
02:15:52,340 --> 02:15:55,920
and we can go into a little more detail here, about comparable facilities.

1479
02:15:55,920 --> 02:16:00,500
An example was given during the comment of a pool that's provided.

1480
02:16:02,700 --> 02:16:06,920
That might be an easier way to think about this.

1481
02:16:07,140 --> 02:16:13,940
If you have two pools and they are providing the same sort of services or programs at those

1482
02:16:13,940 --> 02:16:19,760
pools then you can think about is this comparable to the services provided elsewhere

1483
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:23,500
and so maybe one facility doesn't have to be made accessible.

1484
02:16:23,500 --> 02:16:30,640
But the comparison of pools and parks and the park system here are not quite the same because

1485
02:16:31,180 --> 02:16:36,820
the access to the trail in this place is not the same as the access to trail in other places

1486
02:16:36,820 --> 02:16:40,240
and this park is not the same as other parks.

1487
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:45,580
So it is true that there are other parks but in this location with this access to

1488
02:16:45,580 --> 02:16:46,080
this trail.

1489
02:16:46,580 --> 02:16:51,280
So I'm not saying that there aren't comparable facilities that will meet the ADA that is

1490
02:16:51,280 --> 02:16:56,200
question for certified access specialists or someone to come and look at this as part

1491
02:16:56,200 --> 02:17:01,280
of the transition plan, but when comparing facilities and thinking about whether or not

1492
02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:07,880
they're comparable, you have to think about the different services that are provided

1493
02:17:07,880 --> 02:17:08,660
in that location.

1494
02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:13,860
And maybe I only answered the first part.

1495
02:17:14,780 --> 02:17:21,020
Do small towns, do they have some special exemption for ADA?

1496
02:17:21,880 --> 02:17:25,040
So I'm not aware of a special exemption here.

1497
02:17:25,160 --> 02:17:32,260
There is special guidance for small towns and public agencies to help them wade through some of those issues.

1498
02:17:32,380 --> 02:17:33,140
And that's what was referenced.

1499
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:36,600
So there is a small jurisdiction guidance on this.

1500
02:17:36,700 --> 02:17:39,040
And I think the comparable analysis still applies.

1501
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:40,300
All right.

1502
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:41,220
Thank you.

1503
02:17:41,900 --> 02:17:45,380
And then I think this one goes to public works.

1504
02:17:45,380 --> 02:17:54,780
and the question was right now we're losing two cars possibility parking on

1505
02:17:54,780 --> 02:18:03,000
the raised curb going to one ADA is there a possibility that you could add more

1506
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,820
parking okay

1507
02:18:10,190 --> 02:18:14,150
there we go that's always a potential for us to look at that area

1508
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:19,990
for see if we have enough space for additional parking it would kind of go

1509
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:26,370
against the idea of preserving that green open area in the park system in the park itself

1510
02:18:26,990 --> 02:18:32,330
because we would have to cut into the park to provide additional pull-in parking regardless

1511
02:18:32,330 --> 02:18:36,870
of its access for the park or it wouldn't be street parking.

1512
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:40,870
So the street parking, the parking stall, the pull-in parking stall we're proposing,

1513
02:18:41,550 --> 02:18:44,750
right now we estimate it's only going to take up one stall of the street parking.

1514
02:18:45,150 --> 02:18:48,490
And again it's not, I can't tell you for sure if it's only going to take up

1515
02:18:48,490 --> 02:18:49,050
one spot.

1516
02:18:49,050 --> 02:18:54,030
that's what we're aiming for. To provide additional pull-in parking for the park we

1517
02:18:54,030 --> 02:18:59,970
would cut into the that park area forced to park. I think it in expanding on that

1518
02:18:59,970 --> 02:19:03,530
you probably have the ability and it would look very similar if you went

1519
02:19:03,530 --> 02:19:12,190
back to the picture of Oak Circle Park but again having based on and I first

1520
02:19:12,190 --> 02:19:16,370
of all I do want to say I appreciate and acknowledge some of the community

1521
02:19:16,370 --> 02:19:21,970
feedback as to how projects start. So but I also think it's important to foot

1522
02:19:21,970 --> 02:19:26,490
note that while they may they may not have realized that in some ways the

1523
02:19:26,490 --> 02:19:30,210
project and the conversation had started back in the public meetings in the

1524
02:19:30,210 --> 02:19:37,110
2015-16. So in fairness to everybody I do think there's an opportunity and I

1525
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:41,490
don't disagree with the spirit at all and I think that's attempting and

1526
02:19:41,490 --> 02:19:45,130
that's certainly what we were attempting to do and I will all say

1527
02:19:45,130 --> 02:19:50,230
in some of our experience we have had conversations where we go and the public doesn't know where

1528
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:57,370
to start with feedback because they don't have an idea to see what it is they're evaluating.

1529
02:19:58,150 --> 02:20:05,930
But what I hope people would see is that our staff has listened and each of those modifications

1530
02:20:05,930 --> 02:20:09,810
or a continuation in our evolution comes with that spirit.

1531
02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:15,970
So and you're even hearing that conversation today if we modify and blend some of these things

1532
02:20:15,970 --> 02:20:21,730
But I also think you know two different projects if we talk, you know

1533
02:20:21,730 --> 02:20:28,150
I think least invasive not taking up green space. We may need to have that community conversation

1534
02:20:28,730 --> 02:20:35,390
Does that lead towards meandering path with no handrail may take up quote a little more park footprint

1535
02:20:35,390 --> 02:20:39,210
but it may not occur that way in cannery landscaping.

1536
02:20:39,350 --> 02:20:42,230
And I certainly think and Director Ferns

1537
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:45,050
and Deputy Director Ramirez alluded to this

1538
02:20:45,050 --> 02:20:47,410
in their conversation, there's a great opportunity

1539
02:20:47,410 --> 02:20:49,610
for whatever solution the council chooses

1540
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:52,370
that we can use a very collaborative process

1541
02:20:52,370 --> 02:20:55,910
on evaluating the landscaping that may go in

1542
02:20:56,650 --> 02:20:57,850
with regards to that.

1543
02:20:58,450 --> 02:20:59,930
The question was also asked

1544
02:20:59,930 --> 02:21:02,550
about a no parking option in forest or park.

1545
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:06,430
Again, I'm going to say, yes, probably a little higher risk.

1546
02:21:07,410 --> 02:21:12,970
Forester Park, while it's a neighborhood park, it has a playground, amenity, and some open

1547
02:21:12,970 --> 02:21:13,290
space.

1548
02:21:13,950 --> 02:21:19,590
We also know it gets used for neighborhood, we issue bouncy house permits and things

1549
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:20,010
like that.

1550
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:23,590
So I know that there's occasionally things that go in that bring external.

1551
02:21:24,130 --> 02:21:28,530
So slightly different in terms of what I would say the more passive open space

1552
02:21:28,530 --> 02:21:30,810
nature of three weirs.

1553
02:21:30,810 --> 02:21:36,510
but within that I think it could be looked at and eliminated the same way if

1554
02:21:36,510 --> 02:21:42,130
you wanted to use head-end parking similar to Oak Circle and continue that

1555
02:21:42,130 --> 02:21:45,990
you probably could we could go back and look at that if that was the direction

1556
02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:51,670
but again based on neighborhood impact at that point they wanted to preserve or

1557
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:55,930
it was our interpretation to preserve as much of the existing parking as

1558
02:21:55,930 --> 02:22:02,490
possible. So that dialogue didn't really evolve but I just visually we did show you what something

1559
02:22:02,490 --> 02:22:07,090
similar but it would eat up a little bit more of the landscaping and require a different

1560
02:22:07,090 --> 02:22:13,270
landscape softening. Again, I do think it could be an alternative and I will also stress what

1561
02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:18,570
the deputy director said. You have the ability to modify projects, but the funding for those

1562
02:22:18,570 --> 02:22:24,450
grants has to be utilized on these two facilities. And you may be reaching a point where some

1563
02:22:24,450 --> 02:22:28,650
of the modifications exceed the grant amount and that's certainly within the

1564
02:22:28,650 --> 02:22:32,550
council's prerogative and you could fund additional if those are the ways you

1565
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:39,090
want to go. So just a little more input for your consideration there. Okay, thank

1566
02:22:39,090 --> 02:22:43,310
you. I think we've answered all the questions. Council hear anything else we

1567
02:22:43,310 --> 02:22:48,910
didn't answer from the public. I have a question related to the public comment

1568
02:22:48,910 --> 02:22:50,810
of the staff? Sure.

1569
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:53,870
So,

1570
02:22:56,090 --> 02:23:00,910
and this is in no way a criticism of the existing

1571
02:23:00,910 --> 02:23:05,890
approach in the engineering firm you used, but putting aside the budget, which I

1572
02:23:05,890 --> 02:23:12,110
understand we have a grant, would a landscape architect bring additional

1573
02:23:13,350 --> 02:23:15,890
perspective or ability to blend

1574
02:23:15,890 --> 02:23:16,570
this better?

1575
02:23:17,490 --> 02:23:19,350
In other words, could you and I

1576
02:23:19,350 --> 02:23:20,770
realize the town council would

1577
02:23:20,770 --> 02:23:21,670
need to prove additional

1578
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:22,090
funding?

1579
02:23:22,590 --> 02:23:24,330
I would ask this of you, would

1580
02:23:24,330 --> 02:23:26,290
that actually be helpful to

1581
02:23:27,050 --> 02:23:28,450
achieve some of what you're

1582
02:23:28,450 --> 02:23:30,370
hearing about the goals of the

1583
02:23:30,370 --> 02:23:31,210
community?

1584
02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:33,270
I feel like a different

1585
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:35,210
perspective is always welcomed

1586
02:23:35,210 --> 02:23:36,610
especially when it comes to

1587
02:23:36,610 --> 02:23:38,110
somebody with an expertise in

1588
02:23:38,110 --> 02:23:38,790
landscaping.

1589
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:40,570
Whereas the civil engineer we

1590
02:23:40,570 --> 02:23:45,370
hired. They focused on making sure we met ADA compliance and making sure they

1591
02:23:45,370 --> 02:23:51,630
met our requests of being as minimizing the impact to the park itself. The

1592
02:23:51,630 --> 02:23:55,810
landscape architect, if we were to have gone a landscaped route as opposed to a

1593
02:23:55,810 --> 02:23:59,750
civil engineering route, would still have to have met ADA compliance. So it

1594
02:23:59,750 --> 02:24:05,050
could have been the same ramp but with additional aesthetics applied to it,

1595
02:24:05,690 --> 02:24:09,950
which can still be incorporated at this point. We have the ADA compliant

1596
02:24:09,950 --> 02:24:14,990
ramp up to the pedestrian bridge, we can come back and look at the landscaping and

1597
02:24:15,770 --> 02:24:17,510
see what we can provide to it to

1598
02:24:17,510 --> 02:24:20,710
Minimize that that look of the concrete or asphalt

1599
02:24:21,530 --> 02:24:22,350
Thank you

1600
02:24:24,090 --> 02:24:26,190
so I'm gonna now we're gonna

1601
02:24:26,850 --> 02:24:28,950
bring this discussion and

1602
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:31,350
possible action

1603
02:24:31,950 --> 02:24:38,310
Back to the council. So this will be a council of discussion and I was thinking that it might be

1604
02:24:38,990 --> 02:24:43,510
easiest if we took one park at a time because there's a lot of different aspects

1605
02:24:43,510 --> 02:24:48,010
to this and I was gonna suggest we start with Forrester Park but as you

1606
02:24:48,010 --> 02:24:52,650
provide your comments if there's so much similarity between the two parks you

1607
02:24:52,650 --> 02:24:57,350
could combine them but I think that might be easier both for all of us as

1608
02:24:57,350 --> 02:25:02,610
as well as staff to here and the public

1609
02:25:02,610 --> 02:25:05,910
here our debate and our conclusion.

1610
02:25:06,430 --> 02:25:11,310
So now, who would like to go first?

1611
02:25:12,630 --> 02:25:13,710
Everybody's looking down.

1612
02:25:13,870 --> 02:25:15,730
It doesn't count, but Council Member Reeves

1613
02:25:15,730 --> 02:25:16,790
is bringing her microphone.

1614
02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:19,930
So I will take that as you're up.

1615
02:25:20,210 --> 02:25:24,110
Okay, I think I would just like to start

1616
02:25:24,110 --> 02:25:30,410
by acknowledging the public comments that we received about the process and

1617
02:25:30,910 --> 02:25:40,370
incorporate that into my comments. I feel like the community is asking for more

1618
02:25:40,370 --> 02:25:47,670
input into this particular design for both parks and I'd like to suggest that

1619
02:25:47,670 --> 02:25:59,770
we hire a landscape architect who will meet with the community to get guidelines and suggestions

1620
02:25:59,770 --> 02:26:09,250
from the community and walk the property with the properties with those community members

1621
02:26:09,250 --> 02:26:16,450
to receive the input necessary for a drawing to come out that that meets

1622
02:26:16,450 --> 02:26:26,350
their needs and desires but also meets the ADA standards and then bring it back

1623
02:26:26,350 --> 02:26:34,350
to the council for approval or discussion and move forward with a plan

1624
02:26:34,350 --> 02:26:43,170
in that way. Thank you and I just have a question for Deputy Director Ramirez on

1625
02:26:43,170 --> 02:26:55,070
that. Would you need from the council any opinion on which option for Eda Park if

1626
02:26:55,070 --> 02:27:00,330
we were going to bring back bring in a landscape architect or would you

1627
02:27:01,490 --> 02:27:06,210
Do you understand my question, or would they comment on all the different options, or would

1628
02:27:06,210 --> 02:27:14,050
you like for us, maybe I'll take it back to Councilmember Reeves, do you need which option

1629
02:27:14,050 --> 02:27:19,910
we're talking about so that if we did choose to have a landscape architect, they would

1630
02:27:20,690 --> 02:27:23,850
know what option they would be designing,

1631
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:27,660
you're off again.

1632
02:27:33,740 --> 02:27:39,580
We would need some direction so the direction I would need would either be do not proceed

1633
02:27:39,580 --> 02:27:44,520
with any of the designs and hire a landscape architect and we can reach out to our consultant

1634
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:51,240
engineer and see if they can add a sub consultant to their team or we would need direction saying

1635
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:57,760
we prefer design option X but we would like additional input from our landscape architect

1636
02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:04,260
So we do need direction either on no design options or preferred design option.

1637
02:28:04,420 --> 02:28:05,600
Okay, thank you.

1638
02:28:05,720 --> 02:28:07,980
Would you like to weigh in on that?

1639
02:28:08,220 --> 02:28:08,360
Yes.

1640
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:09,300
Could you modify that?

1641
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:09,720
Thank you.

1642
02:28:09,980 --> 02:28:18,900
I would say that my preference would be the no parking at the three-wheer park option

1643
02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:26,680
with the least invasion into green space and the utilization of the current

1644
02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:40,420
rolled parking shoulder as the run-up to the bridge as the pathway and as far as

1645
02:28:40,420 --> 02:28:46,680
Forrester Park goes it sounds to me like there needs to be a discussion with the

1646
02:28:46,680 --> 02:28:56,480
community about loss of regular parking versus allowing just the removal of one

1647
02:28:56,480 --> 02:29:05,440
parking space and trading for a handicapped space. I don't exactly know

1648
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:09,560
how to state that but. Well I think if I could council member is there the

1649
02:29:09,560 --> 02:29:14,300
remaining part of the parking remains. I think we want to make sure that that

1650
02:29:14,300 --> 02:29:18,680
is fully understood. So you're only taking out the section of the raised parking shoulder for the

1651
02:29:18,680 --> 02:29:23,700
head in and the rest of the frontage would remain parking. So I just want to make sure that that's

1652
02:29:23,700 --> 02:29:29,380
understood by the council. And if you wanted us to evaluate an option of what head in parking

1653
02:29:29,380 --> 02:29:36,000
all the way in would look like consistent with the ADA then you could provide that direction.

1654
02:29:36,340 --> 02:29:42,700
It just appears on the rendering that they've sort of flattened out the entire frontage of

1655
02:29:42,700 --> 02:29:48,800
the park so it seems like the rolled edge is already eliminated no that's again I

1656
02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:51,940
think that's just unfortunately you know the black because if you go there and

1657
02:29:51,940 --> 02:29:54,960
look you have the rolled curve in the asphalt but I want to be really clear that

1658
02:29:54,960 --> 02:29:59,440
within that frontage only the minimal amount of the existing parking is being

1659
02:29:59,440 --> 02:29:59,960
taken out

1660
02:30:00,110 --> 02:30:06,270
For the head in, the rest remains, make sure I get my directions, northerly, so there will

1661
02:30:06,270 --> 02:30:12,330
be two to three parking spaces remaining. But if the council did want to evaluate and look

1662
02:30:12,330 --> 02:30:18,670
at what a rendering of head in parking going all the way from the ADA, that that direction

1663
02:30:18,670 --> 02:30:23,930
or feedback would be appropriate. So it would be helpful to pull up that slide?

1664
02:30:27,050 --> 02:30:36,690
I have to say I was at the meeting with Councilmember Tripp and as a private citizen I've been at

1665
02:30:36,690 --> 02:30:39,810
another on-site meeting there.

1666
02:30:40,770 --> 02:30:50,050
And when you walk off the space that's required for the handicap parking space, it may be

1667
02:30:50,050 --> 02:30:58,630
if we don't provide any ramp on the right-hand side of the parking space, no

1668
02:30:58,630 --> 02:31:06,870
that's the left, I'm challenged in that way, the left-hand side, then there will

1669
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:12,870
be no parking space at all. There's only room for one more car there if we

1670
02:31:12,870 --> 02:31:23,950
don't provide handicap access to the north side of that handicap head-in space, right?

1671
02:31:24,350 --> 02:31:28,930
It might be helpful to bring up the slide again, so the way we have the parking stall,

1672
02:31:29,310 --> 02:31:34,450
we have the parking stall itself and then the hatched area, if you're looking as if

1673
02:31:34,450 --> 02:31:37,850
you're pulling into the parking stall, will be to the right of the parking stall.

1674
02:31:38,110 --> 02:31:40,610
Right, but that's for somebody who is a passenger.

1675
02:31:40,610 --> 02:31:47,010
There are plenty of hand-kept people who actually drive and still use a wheelchair.

1676
02:31:47,490 --> 02:31:53,190
So are they going to get out and be dumped onto the curb that's right there?

1677
02:31:54,430 --> 02:31:59,890
So the parking spot itself with the hatched area is going to be designed to be wide enough

1678
02:31:59,890 --> 02:32:00,830
to allow for access?

1679
02:32:01,930 --> 02:32:03,410
What are we talking about for us, sir?

1680
02:32:03,570 --> 02:32:04,050
Do you want a pointer?

1681
02:32:04,810 --> 02:32:05,370
Right there.

1682
02:32:05,750 --> 02:32:06,010
A what?

1683
02:32:06,530 --> 02:32:07,050
A pointer?

1684
02:32:11,530 --> 02:32:23,620
I don't know if I can maybe this one. It doesn't do anything on the screen. But I'm just talking

1685
02:32:23,620 --> 02:32:28,940
about that space to the left. Is there enough?

1686
02:32:30,950 --> 02:32:34,250
Well, I get there's access to open the door

1687
02:32:34,250 --> 02:32:41,110
and get out, but they would also have to be to either go around the backside of their car

1688
02:32:41,110 --> 02:32:50,610
to access the park on the right, or if there were a car parked parallel there, they wouldn't

1689
02:32:50,610 --> 02:32:54,110
be able to access where that actual wheelchair person is.

1690
02:32:56,630 --> 02:33:01,170
So we would provide the ADA compliance stall.

1691
02:33:01,170 --> 02:33:08,270
So regardless of size of car type of car the stall would be provide sufficient room for them maneuvering and because the raised shoulder

1692
02:33:08,270 --> 02:33:13,170
We're not blocking it off. That's still an area for them to use utilize to come out

1693
02:33:13,170 --> 02:33:16,050
But there's still room for cars to park

1694
02:33:16,050 --> 02:33:18,310
It's a little unique the fact that we

1695
02:33:18,310 --> 02:33:22,850
Adjusted this to have pull-in parking and then street parking which does make it a little awkward

1696
02:33:22,850 --> 02:33:27,830
So we might prep to provide a little buffer so a car doesn't back up into potentially

1697
02:33:27,830 --> 02:33:32,690
the door opening of that car pull-in parking spot, but it should still allow

1698
02:33:32,690 --> 02:33:37,870
for a sufficient room for parking. And are those two curbs that are on the north

1699
02:33:37,870 --> 02:33:44,210
and the south part of that parking stall, are they required as far as ADA

1700
02:33:44,210 --> 02:33:48,770
compliance goes? And those are for the rendering purposes and depending on once

1701
02:33:48,770 --> 02:33:52,310
we get out there and we adjust the grade of that landscaping area, we

1702
02:33:52,310 --> 02:33:55,550
might not need the grace curb. That race curb is to prevent for tripping

1703
02:33:55,550 --> 02:33:59,810
hazards or to hold back any soil that might be there but if we're able to

1704
02:33:59,810 --> 02:34:04,670
adjust the soil to fit in the parking spot so it's not a hazard we won't need

1705
02:34:04,670 --> 02:34:10,510
the curbs. And then the hash marks in the blue it was stated by some residents

1706
02:34:10,510 --> 02:34:16,470
that they thought it was awfully blue. Some parking spaces just have the

1707
02:34:16,470 --> 02:34:23,130
logo on the pavement and then a sign at the head of the parking space is

1708
02:34:23,130 --> 02:34:25,930
Is that a possibility or is that a different requirement?

1709
02:34:26,510 --> 02:34:30,530
The color for the hatched area, there might be some flexibility there.

1710
02:34:30,830 --> 02:34:36,810
The color for the symbol has to remain ADA the blue required, but the hatched area itself,

1711
02:34:37,110 --> 02:34:40,810
it prevents cars from thinking that that's an available parking spot.

1712
02:34:41,670 --> 02:34:46,070
So the hatched area would have to stay, it may not have to be blue hatched area,

1713
02:34:46,210 --> 02:34:48,590
but it would have to stay hatched.

1714
02:34:48,590 --> 02:35:02,390
So I would say that it would be important for the community to review any plan to either

1715
02:35:02,390 --> 02:35:12,270
add head-in parking there for regular cars or decide whether they just wanted one parallel

1716
02:35:12,270 --> 02:35:17,370
spot in front as well as the handicap access.

1717
02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:28,590
Okay so that clear so I'm kind of thinking of option one or two and then one

1718
02:35:28,590 --> 02:35:35,630
two three four so is this option one or two or is this option a new option that

1719
02:35:35,630 --> 02:35:41,150
you're proposing no I think we're talking about for sure this read this option

1720
02:35:41,150 --> 02:35:48,770
okay for sure part option to my mind okay the chosen one I guess is what you

1721
02:35:48,770 --> 02:35:56,570
would call it okay with the least amount of curbing I would think and checking

1722
02:35:56,570 --> 02:36:03,530
with the community about the head in option for regular parking as well okay

1723
02:36:03,530 --> 02:36:14,070
And, in addition, those two, you would like a landscape architect who is an expert in

1724
02:36:14,070 --> 02:36:18,090
ADA to review both of those designs.

1725
02:36:18,650 --> 02:36:18,790
All right.

1726
02:36:18,850 --> 02:36:20,970
Both sites and both options.

1727
02:36:21,410 --> 02:36:21,590
Okay.

1728
02:36:22,250 --> 02:36:23,870
And then, three where?

1729
02:36:24,250 --> 02:36:26,570
Which option would you like the?

1730
02:36:27,050 --> 02:36:28,110
Oh, the no parking.

1731
02:36:28,530 --> 02:36:29,250
Option four.

1732
02:36:29,550 --> 02:36:29,950
No parking.

1733
02:36:30,170 --> 02:36:30,290
Okay.

1734
02:36:30,570 --> 02:36:30,850
Great.

1735
02:36:31,510 --> 02:36:32,930
All right. Thank you.

1736
02:36:34,960 --> 02:36:38,480
Taking notes. I think I see the staff taking notes. So if we're

1737
02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:45,420
not clear, let us know and we'll keep working on that. Who would like to go next? Council

1738
02:36:45,420 --> 02:36:52,280
member Tripp. Thank you. I'm essentially in agreement with Council

1739
02:36:52,280 --> 02:36:59,520
member Reeves, particularly about the community input and the landscape architect. My only

1740
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:08,120
thought is on three wares, if we could, I like option four, but also not completely

1741
02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:15,680
foreclose the design, perhaps, of a path that, for lack of a better word, meanders that

1742
02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:17,400
would avoid the railing.

1743
02:37:17,880 --> 02:37:20,900
So maybe a combination, as I alluded to, of two and four.

1744
02:37:21,340 --> 02:37:24,960
So I just, if we're going to go to all the trouble of having a landscape architect,

1745
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:45,600
I just wouldn't want to restrain them too much from considering other viable options at least in terms, but for me the key element is the no parking, which is option four, but then the meandering path option as well.

1746
02:37:47,060 --> 02:37:51,960
Staff clear on that. Okay. Who would like to go next?

1747
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:55,400
next? Vice Mayor?

1748
02:37:57,760 --> 02:38:03,680
You don't want to go. Okay, Councilmember McKee-Cant. I am in agreement.

1749
02:38:04,930 --> 02:38:10,700
I have a question with regard to the preferred design to for Forestier Park.

1750
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:21,940
In the rendering

1751
02:38:21,940 --> 02:38:25,480
space where the gentleman is in the wheelchair. Is that parking?

1752
02:38:27,380 --> 02:38:31,780
Yes. All that raised shoulder is parking. So if there was a car there,

1753
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:36,370
could the gentleman in

1754
02:38:36,370 --> 02:38:42,350
the wheelchair feasibly get out? He would be at the bumper of the car. So what we're trying to

1755
02:38:42,350 --> 02:38:48,430
provide access to is to that ADA ramp that's there on the other side, on the other side,

1756
02:38:48,430 --> 02:38:53,470
that leads into the trail system that's existing. So they have to go out on the road or you

1757
02:38:53,470 --> 02:38:56,870
feel like it's deep enough in that they won't have to go down the curb.

1758
02:38:57,950 --> 02:39:03,110
And that's why we're trying to provide a stall to try to keep them off the road.

1759
02:39:03,250 --> 02:39:08,210
But because this neighborhood does not have an accessibility path, we're trying to provide

1760
02:39:08,890 --> 02:39:13,290
the most accessibility that we can, which should be provide a stall with a hatched area

1761
02:39:13,290 --> 02:39:15,670
and access to that existing ADA ramp.

1762
02:39:16,270 --> 02:39:20,810
So they would potentially have to come out and go behind the car to access that

1763
02:39:20,810 --> 02:39:21,190
ramp.

1764
02:39:21,190 --> 02:39:28,950
But the whole neighborhood does not have accessible pathways, so we're not living them access to a sidewalk that would direct them to the ramp.

1765
02:39:29,270 --> 02:39:33,030
We're providing them access to that existing ADA ramp.

1766
02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:41,110
Is that sidewalk on the left where the gentleman is, is that currently there?

1767
02:39:41,510 --> 02:39:41,890
Yes.

1768
02:39:42,290 --> 02:39:42,590
Okay.

1769
02:39:44,030 --> 02:39:50,390
So it does, you have them on both sides just take a lot of space, but we're dealing with what we're dealing with.

1770
02:39:50,390 --> 02:39:56,610
So that preferred option is my choice.

1771
02:39:58,290 --> 02:39:59,770
So that's option two.

1772
02:39:59,990 --> 02:40:00,510
Option two.

1773
02:40:00,770 --> 02:40:01,050
Thank you.

1774
02:40:01,370 --> 02:40:01,730
And fourth.

1775
02:40:02,510 --> 02:40:04,230
I'm just translating.

1776
02:40:04,690 --> 02:40:05,350
I know I get that.

1777
02:40:05,570 --> 02:40:06,450
Pull in option two.

1778
02:40:06,750 --> 02:40:06,830
Okay.

1779
02:40:07,390 --> 02:40:08,870
We're on the same page there.

1780
02:40:09,430 --> 02:40:19,190
And for Three Wears Park, no parking is the best aesthetic solution.

1781
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:27,610
and I'm in agreement with Councilmember Reeves and TRIP that I might not want the

1782
02:40:27,610 --> 02:40:32,230
meandering sidewalk to go so far through the park because I feel like that is it

1783
02:40:32,230 --> 02:40:36,790
is so narrow there already if you have a longer sidewalk that continues through

1784
02:40:36,790 --> 02:40:40,810
you're kind of cutting right through the the middle of that narrow green

1785
02:40:40,810 --> 02:40:48,310
space but if we can be more parallel and aligned with what was parking

1786
02:40:48,310 --> 02:40:55,830
space there and find a gentle slope and landscape it and definitely work with a landscaper designer.

1787
02:40:58,290 --> 02:41:03,850
That would be the best. I mean, it's very clear that we have to do something and I think if

1788
02:41:03,850 --> 02:41:09,530
we're all frustrated it can definitely be at the frivolous lawsuits that are brought against

1789
02:41:09,530 --> 02:41:16,030
towns and even shops that don't have accessible cash register stations.

1790
02:41:16,890 --> 02:41:20,630
So I commend the town for doing something.

1791
02:41:21,150 --> 02:41:25,390
We're all passionate about our green space here and our natural charm, but we have to

1792
02:41:25,390 --> 02:41:27,930
protect the town from lawsuits.

1793
02:41:29,710 --> 02:41:32,390
Thank you, and vice mayor.

1794
02:41:33,230 --> 02:41:33,990
Thank you.

1795
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:42,090
First, I wanted to thank Public Works Department again for your involvement and constantly

1796
02:41:42,090 --> 02:41:46,650
responding to resident questions and concerns.

1797
02:41:47,610 --> 02:41:56,170
But what I really would like to do in this process is to really honor residents in

1798
02:41:56,170 --> 02:42:02,730
the Washington Park area and your efforts to encourage a collaborative process.

1799
02:42:02,730 --> 02:42:05,350
And I think we can get there.

1800
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:06,050
I'm concerned.

1801
02:42:06,330 --> 02:42:11,090
I think we should all be concerned about the timelines we have to finish this project.

1802
02:42:11,470 --> 02:42:18,510
But I think this is a good place and a good time to honor your wishes to be more involved

1803
02:42:18,510 --> 02:42:19,390
in the process.

1804
02:42:19,890 --> 02:42:28,210
And so I support the initial comments from Council Member Reeves that we hire a landscape

1805
02:42:28,210 --> 02:42:28,810
architect.

1806
02:42:28,810 --> 02:42:34,910
Maybe we can reduce the amount of time by talking to our current consultant to see if

1807
02:42:34,910 --> 02:42:44,730
they could bring on someone who has ADA licensing but does landscape architecture and then bring

1808
02:42:45,290 --> 02:42:55,730
that person to the community to review the two park sites and to meet with the community

1809
02:42:55,730 --> 02:43:00,770
and to listen to their thoughts and take in their input.

1810
02:43:01,430 --> 02:43:08,450
I think we have to start somewhere and I think supporting that desire

1811
02:43:08,450 --> 02:43:15,670
and that very honest interaction with those residents

1812
02:43:15,670 --> 02:43:20,450
and their respectful communications and desire for collaboration is important.

1813
02:43:20,450 --> 02:43:27,630
And so my only input, other than maybe waiting for this input from a landscape architect,

1814
02:43:28,110 --> 02:43:32,290
is I generally support the option two for Forester.

1815
02:43:32,810 --> 02:43:34,530
It seems like it has the least impact.

1816
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:45,930
And my hope is that anything that we eventually arrive at really speaks to our 2015 self-evaluation

1817
02:43:45,930 --> 02:43:49,090
and transition report that said our preferences

1818
02:43:49,090 --> 02:43:52,790
are for the least invasive path network as possible.

1819
02:43:53,390 --> 02:43:58,710
And so I hope that there would be some more consideration

1820
02:43:58,710 --> 02:44:03,550
that we may provide, be able to develop some other ideas

1821
02:44:03,550 --> 02:44:09,750
for three-way park if we drop the ADA parking

1822
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:12,450
and look at options like option four,

1823
02:44:12,930 --> 02:44:14,690
that that might provide some opportunities

1824
02:44:14,690 --> 02:44:20,770
these in that part as well to have the least amount of impact to the open space.

1825
02:44:21,810 --> 02:44:25,910
And that's, I think, is an important consideration.

1826
02:44:26,590 --> 02:44:35,190
I think the meandering pathway looks attractive on paper, but when you get out to a natural

1827
02:44:35,190 --> 02:44:43,790
environment and have to compact soil and pour concrete, then the importance of really

1828
02:44:43,790 --> 02:44:49,310
respecting the integrity and aesthetics of that area will be compromised. It will be

1829
02:44:49,310 --> 02:44:58,110
a manufactured pathway. So if an F3 weir, if we can eliminate the ADA space, address

1830
02:44:58,110 --> 02:44:59,190
address the issue of that.

1831
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,180
And then create a path that is the shortest and least invasive,

1832
02:45:06,320 --> 02:45:08,100
I think, would be the best option.

1833
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:11,980
So I appreciate everyone's comments today and the input,

1834
02:45:12,300 --> 02:45:15,760
and I look forward to, especially on our timeline,

1835
02:45:15,960 --> 02:45:18,540
that we have to move forward fairly quickly, so.

1836
02:45:19,180 --> 02:45:24,040
So to summarize, you like the enforcer, the pull-in option,

1837
02:45:24,500 --> 02:45:27,340
and we're going to have a landscape architect review that.

1838
02:45:27,340 --> 02:45:30,560
and three weirs option for

1839
02:45:32,740 --> 02:45:36,400
correct with some input hopefully with a landscape

1840
02:45:36,400 --> 02:45:42,000
architect with ADA experience that right yeah for both often soften the impact of

1841
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:51,120
this construction in both parks okay mayor molar yes maybe along with this

1842
02:45:51,120 --> 02:45:58,280
discussion about this park specific that if we're going to wait and not wait

1843
02:45:58,280 --> 02:46:04,360
very long but if we're going to have a landscape architect do some outreach and

1844
02:46:04,360 --> 02:46:10,100
work in that vein then we should also bring back to the council a revision for

1845
02:46:10,100 --> 02:46:20,880
the transition plan while that's going on for the three-weir park no parking do

1846
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:25,140
we need an amendment for what I'm calling option for three-weir what

1847
02:46:27,280 --> 02:46:27,480
I'm

1848
02:46:27,480 --> 02:46:31,880
hearing is if you go that route yes you are whether you do it now or at a point

1849
02:46:31,880 --> 02:46:38,060
we can work on and Gary and the town attorney and public works director can

1850
02:46:38,060 --> 02:46:43,560
evaluate the the other question that I'm what also asked though is if you're

1851
02:46:43,560 --> 02:46:48,920
going to revisit the ADA transition plan are you going to revisit it or are you

1852
02:46:48,920 --> 02:46:54,940
only going to go in and spot revisit in this location because that could

1853
02:46:54,940 --> 02:47:00,840
impact the amount of time, effort, and consultant energy to go in and verify that.

1854
02:47:01,020 --> 02:47:06,340
So perhaps that is something that you all can think about and we can discuss more at the

1855
02:47:06,900 --> 02:47:08,040
retreat next week.

1856
02:47:09,560 --> 02:47:10,160
Okay.

1857
02:47:10,420 --> 02:47:12,480
I think you see a lot of head shaking for that.

1858
02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:14,220
All right.

1859
02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:20,260
So I agree my Forester Park.

1860
02:47:20,260 --> 02:47:30,100
I like option two and option four at three words park and we'll bring in a landscape

1861
02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:41,100
architect and so again the our real deadline for anything we would do for

1862
02:47:41,100 --> 02:47:47,740
the transition plan and this plan is August 20 24 is that correct for this

1863
02:47:47,740 --> 02:47:52,160
work in the funds is August 2024. For the ADA transition plan, that's separate.

1864
02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:59,460
Okay, so that would be separate. So we can talk about that again on our meeting on the

1865
02:47:59,460 --> 02:48:00,240
27th.

1866
02:48:00,820 --> 02:48:00,960
Right.

1867
02:48:11,830 --> 02:48:17,730
My sensing is we probably have with the current grant incorporating the cost,

1868
02:48:18,190 --> 02:48:22,110
staff has also sort of tried to minimize additional expense while trying to figure

1869
02:48:22,110 --> 02:48:27,690
out where the council wanted to go. But we can start with the incorporation and

1870
02:48:27,690 --> 02:48:32,490
And then also make sure that the person knows that we want to meet and have on-site visits.

1871
02:48:32,850 --> 02:48:36,950
So we'll incorporate that so that they can get some ideas, but that they want to come

1872
02:48:36,950 --> 02:48:39,550
out and listen to people to help craft the ideas.

1873
02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:40,850
We're hearing that very clear.

1874
02:48:41,650 --> 02:48:47,930
And then also, I think it's important to footnote that you may end up having to

1875
02:48:47,930 --> 02:48:51,910
augment the construction depending on what you want to do.

1876
02:48:52,250 --> 02:48:56,970
That extra design costs may just come out.

1877
02:48:56,970 --> 02:49:02,230
And that's an okay thing again it ends up being this is what the project was that the community want the total cost

1878
02:49:02,230 --> 02:49:05,150
But you may need to be prepared that the grant will only

1879
02:49:05,810 --> 02:49:10,230
It covers all the things we're talking about, but it will only go to 160,000

1880
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:13,070
So okay, so

1881
02:49:14,230 --> 02:49:20,310
Those are my comments. They are similar. I'm not in favor of me and ring park

1882
02:49:20,310 --> 02:49:23,670
I think it just takes too much away, but I'm more concerned about

1883
02:49:24,610 --> 02:49:26,190
You know, hopefully we could get

1884
02:49:27,110 --> 02:49:32,450
the landscape architect out to look at and we've given you direction on which

1885
02:49:32,450 --> 02:49:39,390
plan at which park and community input and we can meet these timelines so I

1886
02:49:39,770 --> 02:49:43,910
think I think we're making great progress it's been a long time I

1887
02:49:44,390 --> 02:49:50,550
actually approved the was at the very beginning in 2014 had those long

1888
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:56,430
discussions until we got to council approval in 2015 so it's been a

1889
02:49:56,430 --> 02:50:02,190
long time but I think we're going to have a good product here and we are

1890
02:50:03,090 --> 02:50:08,830
narrowing and giving you enough direction so I think it's going to be

1891
02:50:08,830 --> 02:50:15,330
reasonable. I think you are but I'd like you to incorporate the

1892
02:50:15,330 --> 02:50:24,110
direction into a motion. Okay we can do that and somebody like to do that you

1893
02:50:24,110 --> 02:50:24,870
want me to do it.

1894
02:50:27,070 --> 02:50:35,610
I'll try a stab. Okay. So the motion would be with regard to

1895
02:50:35,610 --> 02:50:44,150
Forrester Park to let me back up. The motion is to retain a landscape architect

1896
02:50:44,150 --> 02:50:55,010
to assist with designing an aesthetically appropriate park that or appropriate

1897
02:50:55,010 --> 02:51:04,610
improvement that incorporates community feedback and to focus on option two at

1898
02:51:04,610 --> 02:51:13,110
Forrester Park and to focus on primarily option four with some consideration to

1899
02:51:13,110 --> 02:51:17,730
options that would not involve a rail system.

1900
02:51:20,580 --> 02:51:21,580
I think that would be the

1901
02:51:21,580 --> 02:51:21,820
motion.

1902
02:51:25,100 --> 02:51:27,500
So which is option four?

1903
02:51:29,960 --> 02:51:33,720
Option four. Yes. But option four includes a rail

1904
02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:38,440
system. So I'm holding out the opportunity that we could look at something

1905
02:51:38,440 --> 02:51:44,100
that achieves the grade without the rails. So we have to bring that back

1906
02:51:44,100 --> 02:51:47,700
because we haven't got all the council to weigh in on the rails. Everybody said

1907
02:51:47,700 --> 02:51:53,540
they did agree with that a combination of 2 and 4 except no I know we only have you

1908
02:51:53,540 --> 02:51:58,760
down for option so I'll leave that motion and then it cannot be seconded or

1909
02:51:58,760 --> 02:52:05,740
however or someone can make an alternative motion well I'll make a

1910
02:52:05,740 --> 02:52:11,400
substitute motion based on the notes that I took and the substitute motion

1911
02:52:11,400 --> 02:52:18,520
would be that a landscape architect is brought in and meets with the

1912
02:52:18,520 --> 02:52:30,060
community to review option four at Three Words Park and at Forrester Park it

1913
02:52:30,060 --> 02:52:36,080
would be option two the poll then because that that's what I've got three

1914
02:52:36,080 --> 02:52:44,440
people saying and myself four. I'll leave the other council members to say

1915
02:52:44,440 --> 02:52:48,740
that's not exactly what I heard but I might have gotten it wrong. Could I make

1916
02:52:48,740 --> 02:52:58,620
an amendment just to say that any option used at Three Wears tries very hard not

1917
02:52:58,620 --> 02:53:05,460
to have handrails? I'll accept that as a friendly amendment to my substitute

1918
02:53:05,460 --> 02:53:08,600
motion. So with that do I have a second?

1919
02:53:11,790 --> 02:53:13,970
Yes I'll second. Okay we have a motion

1920
02:53:13,970 --> 02:53:22,070
in a second so we'll vote on that motion first Eddie would you like to do a roll

1921
02:53:22,070 --> 02:53:32,670
call vote we have a okay we have a I made the motion and we have a friendly

1922
02:53:32,670 --> 02:53:43,770
amendment and a second by which number he can't there oh sorry I opened

1923
02:53:43,770 --> 02:53:49,550
but you want me to do a roll call vote mayor okay what was your question do you

1924
02:53:49,550 --> 02:54:06,750
want to do a roll call vote or you want nope this is fine okay okay okay okay and

1925
02:54:07,610 --> 02:54:14,790
and that motion that substitute motion passes so we do not have to go to the

1926
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:21,690
original motion it was unanimous by all five so there's the council decision in

1927
02:54:21,690 --> 02:54:29,310
a little in direction to staff any final direction you need from us no final

1928
02:54:29,310 --> 02:54:32,450
direction do you want to let the public know that I will be updating the

1929
02:54:32,450 --> 02:54:36,630
website with all the information once we have a landscape architect on board

1930
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:51,650
Any field meetings, interaction with the community, I'll discuss with deputy, with the public works director, interim town manager on making those special meetings of either the PRAC or of the town council.

1931
02:54:52,030 --> 02:54:55,870
So it's, I can try to be more efficient with the use of consultants.

1932
02:54:56,310 --> 02:55:05,750
All right. Thank you very much. And with that conclusion, I'll give the public who would like to leave an opportunity to leave and the council will take a five minute recess.

1933
02:55:05,750 --> 02:55:06,870
Yes, thank you very much.

1934
02:55:12,280 --> 02:55:15,040
All right, our recess is over.

1935
02:55:15,580 --> 02:55:19,880
Thank you to those who remain in the public comment section.

1936
02:55:20,220 --> 02:55:26,700
So now we're going to move to informational staff reports,

1937
02:55:27,000 --> 02:55:31,080
and we're going to have a review website preview

1938
02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:35,780
and our town clerk, Eddie Gomez,

1939
02:55:36,100 --> 02:55:39,240
will be giving this presentation, correct?

1940
02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:39,460
Correct.

1941
02:55:39,720 --> 02:55:40,480
Correct, Major.

1942
02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:41,620
And thank you.

1943
02:55:41,760 --> 02:55:47,440
This is going to be a very short preview, and I should just disclose that this is a draft.

1944
02:55:47,980 --> 02:55:49,200
It's not complete yet.

1945
02:55:49,380 --> 02:55:55,960
We're going through the process of making changes, fixes, and making it a very useful

1946
02:55:55,960 --> 02:55:58,060
website before it goes officially live.

1947
02:55:58,380 --> 02:56:04,540
So right now on the TV screens, you will be able to see our incoming website.

1948
02:56:05,100 --> 02:56:10,380
We have chain providers, our new provider helped us create this first draft of the home page.

1949
02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:15,420
As you can see, it's strictly a little bit more pleasing than what we currently have.

1950
02:56:16,500 --> 02:56:20,480
It has, this is an ADA compliant website.

1951
02:56:20,900 --> 02:56:24,000
So what you will notice too is that it's less heavy on images

1952
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:27,580
and what we like to call flashiness versus what other websites do.

1953
02:56:28,060 --> 02:56:30,460
But it does meet all the ADA requirements.

1954
02:56:30,460 --> 02:56:35,080
So, that's why you will see it a little bit more simple, but at the same time, newer.

1955
02:56:35,860 --> 02:56:39,380
As you can see, you see icons on the top by the picture.

1956
02:56:40,260 --> 02:56:46,380
You also see bigger squares below, which will also connect you to different, what we consider

1957
02:56:46,380 --> 02:56:50,160
important sections or most used sections on our website.

1958
02:56:51,080 --> 02:56:56,140
And as you scroll down, you will see an area for latest news, as well as also how

1959
02:56:56,140 --> 02:56:58,060
to sign up for Notify Me.

1960
02:56:58,060 --> 02:57:04,860
Notifying me it will be the way people can register to just choose what kind of information

1961
02:57:04,860 --> 02:57:10,500
they want to receive, whether it's town council meetings, parks and rec events, city RV meetings.

1962
02:57:11,460 --> 02:57:14,520
As you can imagine, every single one of them will be available through this system.

1963
02:57:15,760 --> 02:57:21,100
The news now will be able to have some images as well, just so we can connect what

1964
02:57:21,100 --> 02:57:25,540
the information is being sent to with the members of the public.

1965
02:57:26,240 --> 02:57:29,280
And by scrolling down, you will see the upcoming events.

1966
02:57:29,460 --> 02:57:31,900
Now, there's none in here because we have not added the data yet.

1967
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:35,160
But you will see a display of all the news on the right side.

1968
02:57:35,560 --> 02:57:40,460
And it will circle those numbers the date specific when there's

1969
02:57:40,460 --> 02:57:43,360
an event or something happening, whether it's a meeting or just an event.

1970
02:57:44,580 --> 02:57:49,240
By scrolling down a little bit more, you will see our Facebook feed

1971
02:57:49,240 --> 02:57:53,420
On the left side, basically whatever we're posting, we'll show up right away right there.

1972
02:57:54,060 --> 02:58:00,220
On the right side, you will see the different systems that we use to talk to the public or

1973
02:58:00,220 --> 02:58:05,060
outreach to the public, which is the most popular for our town, our Facebook, next door,

1974
02:58:05,380 --> 02:58:05,980
and YouTube.

1975
02:58:06,560 --> 02:58:09,500
But we are trying to, we're doing more active on Instagram.

1976
02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:14,320
And we do use an Excel, especially for important information, we need to reach out to the

1977
02:58:14,320 --> 02:58:14,580
public.

1978
02:58:15,640 --> 02:58:20,220
And I don't know if you were able to notice, but throughout the page, the way it was designed

1979
02:58:20,220 --> 02:58:23,220
is to scroll the picture that it used in the background.

1980
02:58:23,840 --> 02:58:27,240
That picture changes every time a person refresh or they open the page.

1981
02:58:27,420 --> 02:58:30,020
So if you don't mind refreshing really quick, you will see a new picture.

1982
02:58:30,860 --> 02:58:34,360
And it will be, it's not scrolling, but the concept is that it's using different

1983
02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:34,720
pictures.

1984
02:58:35,300 --> 02:58:40,140
We use a white background with it just because, again, idea compliance, we want to keep

1985
02:58:40,140 --> 02:58:48,400
color simple and easier to read for a person. Besides that, the website offers two things.

1986
02:58:48,740 --> 02:58:54,620
For staff, it's a lot easier to create content and add content. And at the same time, it is

1987
02:58:54,620 --> 02:58:59,620
a little bit easier to navigate than other websites, what previous websites had. So

1988
02:58:59,620 --> 02:59:05,300
for example, if you don't mind going to the departments and public works, what you

1989
02:59:05,300 --> 02:59:08,640
will see here is all the content that they have right now. Again, this is draft.

1990
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:12,460
So now everything is complete, but you get to see a little bit of what we can do with

1991
02:59:12,460 --> 02:59:16,500
the website, including the contact us information will be on the right side of each department

1992
02:59:17,520 --> 02:59:20,700
website, as well as some important information that they want to add.

1993
02:59:21,060 --> 02:59:25,880
And the concept is for it to be easier to read less clicks and try to have as much

1994
02:59:25,880 --> 02:59:27,020
information in one location.

1995
02:59:27,440 --> 02:59:31,420
So similar to phones or tablets, we like to scroll down rather than go from click

1996
02:59:31,420 --> 02:59:31,980
to click to click.

1997
02:59:32,420 --> 02:59:35,460
Now I'm not going to tell you that it's going to be perfect because we still have

1998
02:59:35,460 --> 02:59:40,560
a lot of content and we don't want to overwhelm people with content, but this is a brief example

1999
02:59:40,560 --> 02:59:43,580
of what our pages will start looking like with the next website.

2000
02:59:46,040 --> 02:59:53,820
With this website, we also have a new system called Civic Connect,

2001
02:59:56,080 --> 02:59:57,220
which is the way we,

2002
02:59:57,220 --> 02:59:59,960
As you have seen newsletters, we send them out, we send them out.

2003
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,900
But that system is going to be different now. Now it's integrated to the website and we can

2004
03:00:03,900 --> 03:00:08,020
create the content and the pictures and everything with the website and send it out to people that

2005
03:00:08,020 --> 03:00:12,420
register on the website and they can consider however they want it. Whether it's via email,

2006
03:00:13,640 --> 03:00:18,340
via cell phone, you get to choose and you can sign up for as much stuff as you want.

2007
03:00:18,500 --> 03:00:23,260
So each department head, each department page will have their own calendar and all

2008
03:00:23,260 --> 03:00:26,620
those calendars will fit directly into the main calendar to have all of them. So if

2009
03:00:26,620 --> 03:00:29,120
The person chooses, like, I'm only interested in public works items.

2010
03:00:29,340 --> 03:00:31,760
They can just go to the public works section and just get all that information.

2011
03:00:32,000 --> 03:00:34,560
But if they want everything else, they can sign up for everything else as well.

2012
03:00:36,980 --> 03:00:41,300
If you don't mind here, we're pulling out the pictures in the PowerPoint presentation

2013
03:00:41,300 --> 03:00:41,780
really quick.

2014
03:00:42,340 --> 03:00:43,720
So this is not really a PowerPoint presentation.

2015
03:00:43,960 --> 03:00:48,380
It's just we compile the pictures so you can see what the website will look on the

2016
03:00:48,380 --> 03:00:48,600
phone.

2017
03:00:49,040 --> 03:00:52,660
Because most people now use their phones to access a lot of information.

2018
03:00:53,080 --> 03:00:57,620
We needed something that was, that was, ooh, I'm going to have to click something here.

2019
03:00:57,940 --> 03:00:58,480
Oh, no, never mind.

2020
03:01:00,800 --> 03:01:05,280
So these pictures will, I mean, sorry, this, this, I mean, it's hard to tell.

2021
03:01:05,440 --> 03:01:06,920
These are screenshots of a cell phone.

2022
03:01:07,460 --> 03:01:08,960
But it's a lot easier to navigate.

2023
03:01:09,360 --> 03:01:12,340
If you try to use your current website, a lot of stuff, it's off.

2024
03:01:12,740 --> 03:01:13,460
You cannot click.

2025
03:01:13,640 --> 03:01:14,380
You cannot see it.

2026
03:01:14,500 --> 03:01:18,040
But this new website is compliant with any kind of device.

2027
03:01:18,660 --> 03:01:21,400
Any size, tablet, cell phones, you know.

2028
03:01:21,400 --> 03:01:25,480
It should be a lot easier for people to navigate and access all the information that we offer

2029
03:01:25,480 --> 03:01:26,400
on the website to their phones.

2030
03:01:27,320 --> 03:01:33,920
So in terms of the calendar, when May comes around and we have budget meetings, will there

2031
03:01:33,920 --> 03:01:40,780
be information circled on those or a separate dialogue or a wording to the right of the

2032
03:01:40,780 --> 03:01:45,300
calendar on the website that will explain what that meeting's time is and purpose?

2033
03:01:45,740 --> 03:01:46,420
It will be both.

2034
03:01:46,420 --> 03:01:52,380
So the date will be certain, telling you there's events on this date, and then on the right

2035
03:01:52,380 --> 03:01:56,460
side you will also see a list of different events with a very short description of what

2036
03:01:56,460 --> 03:01:59,500
that meeting or event is.

2037
03:02:00,400 --> 03:02:04,220
So when do you think this is going to at least come out for beta testing?

2038
03:02:04,880 --> 03:02:07,560
It's actually coming out live on April 5th.

2039
03:02:07,720 --> 03:02:09,480
Live, so the beta testing will be complete?

2040
03:02:09,880 --> 03:02:12,600
Yes, so right now I can tell you that we are in the final stages.

2041
03:02:12,600 --> 03:02:18,220
what we're doing is just red-branching information, making sure that all the links are working,

2042
03:02:18,400 --> 03:02:23,100
making sure that pictures are looking right, making sure that we create the different

2043
03:02:24,320 --> 03:02:29,140
notification systems for all the departments as well as newsletter, something like that,

2044
03:02:29,540 --> 03:02:32,620
as well as just making sure that everything looks right on the front page.

2045
03:02:33,020 --> 03:02:33,880
And it's ADA.

2046
03:02:34,380 --> 03:02:35,380
It is ADA compliant.

2047
03:02:35,820 --> 03:02:39,040
Good. Because those attorneys are out there too. Sorry, Gary.

2048
03:02:40,700 --> 03:02:46,820
I haven't, and my same old question, is it going to be easier to search the document library?

2049
03:02:47,820 --> 03:02:53,360
That's a good question. So the document library, I don't remember off to my head, where is it?

2050
03:02:53,680 --> 03:03:02,600
I completely agree with councilmember Reeves. I can never find a resolution. I have ordinance numbers. I can't find them.

2051
03:03:03,340 --> 03:03:09,060
So, so I should explain a little bit. We have two different systems. We, on the website,

2052
03:03:09,260 --> 03:03:13,380
we add documents, PDFs, press releases, things like that. Right.

2053
03:03:14,020 --> 03:03:19,840
Well, documents like resolutions, ordinances, those live within our laser fish system. Right.

2054
03:03:20,000 --> 03:03:25,380
So we only link into the laser fish. Now searching on laser fish, it is a little bit challenging,

2055
03:03:25,660 --> 03:03:29,740
but we have heard that. So what we think what we're doing is working with our provider

2056
03:03:29,740 --> 03:03:36,840
to do either a small training or a guide that can help people search better unless

2057
03:03:36,840 --> 03:03:40,800
the fish were looking for documents like that. And at some point we'll make that

2058
03:03:40,800 --> 03:03:45,400
document guide live on the website so people know how to search for those

2059
03:03:45,400 --> 03:03:54,760
items. But for my issue is that I would like to access stuff like the ADA

2060
03:03:54,760 --> 03:04:01,980
transition document without having to go through how when was it created and how

2061
03:04:01,980 --> 03:04:06,760
do you click on the right part of it and all of that stuff is the same thing

2062
03:04:06,760 --> 03:04:13,560
with the housing element and all of those things those kinds of documents I

2063
03:04:13,560 --> 03:04:19,560
mean everything's a document but but the ones that we use as guidelines for

2064
03:04:19,560 --> 03:04:27,520
for all this town stuff that we do, it seems like we should have those organized in a way

2065
03:04:27,520 --> 03:04:29,780
that we can just say, oh, there it is.

2066
03:04:31,120 --> 03:04:39,280
It just feels like it's unnecessarily difficult to find those kinds of documents in that whole

2067
03:04:39,280 --> 03:04:40,840
pile of stuff.

2068
03:04:41,300 --> 03:04:41,540
Okay.

2069
03:04:42,260 --> 03:04:48,660
What we can do is, I know that our new website offers a system for meeting information,

2070
03:04:48,660 --> 03:04:53,960
So maybe we can work with them to figure out if we can use that system and they can hopefully they can graph

2071
03:04:54,520 --> 03:04:58,700
What is being used here with Prankov for this information and plug it into the website?

2072
03:04:58,700 --> 03:05:01,560
So I need to do more research about that, but we'll try our best to do that

2073
03:05:01,980 --> 03:05:05,200
I'm also sensing know that what we may need to look at is

2074
03:05:05,940 --> 03:05:07,620
one of the things that I think that

2075
03:05:08,140 --> 03:05:09,900
Search will do is titles

2076
03:05:10,620 --> 03:05:16,180
Some places a DA transition plan you actually will probably find it through links in public works

2077
03:05:16,180 --> 03:05:18,900
but if you don't know that, that's the hard part.

2078
03:05:19,180 --> 03:05:19,620
So I think...

2079
03:05:19,620 --> 03:05:20,520
I couldn't find it today.

2080
03:05:20,740 --> 03:05:26,980
I mean, I got a little teeny little scroll of stuff from the meeting, but that's it.

2081
03:05:27,260 --> 03:05:33,080
And we need to also, you know, some documents when they were scanned or put in at a different

2082
03:05:33,080 --> 03:05:33,420
point.

2083
03:05:33,540 --> 03:05:39,180
So I think there's an opportunity there, but I do think, you know, we do have a

2084
03:05:39,180 --> 03:05:40,940
vast document archive.

2085
03:05:41,300 --> 03:05:41,420
Yeah.

2086
03:05:41,420 --> 03:05:47,060
So I think what we need to do is figure out and then, you know,

2087
03:05:47,160 --> 03:05:51,460
and maybe we can create a reference library of key documents

2088
03:05:51,460 --> 03:05:55,280
and just make that an added item.

2089
03:05:55,620 --> 03:05:57,720
This is a great opportunity to show

2090
03:05:57,720 --> 03:06:01,040
that how can I help you feature that we have on here?

2091
03:06:01,220 --> 03:06:03,280
It has a predictive search capacity.

2092
03:06:03,700 --> 03:06:05,600
So when I went in just now and started typing.

2093
03:06:05,600 --> 03:06:07,600
And do the step plan and see what comes up.

2094
03:06:07,840 --> 03:06:08,040
Yes.

2095
03:06:08,040 --> 03:06:12,680
Well, I started it with ADA because from that seems like it would be a key phrase.

2096
03:06:13,540 --> 03:06:18,220
So immediately what comes up is an ADA self-evaluation and transition plan.

2097
03:06:18,600 --> 03:06:24,540
So this is a really improved search capability compared to our current site.

2098
03:06:25,180 --> 03:06:30,120
And with the predictive search, it allows the system to almost think ahead of you

2099
03:06:30,120 --> 03:06:32,240
and pull up the document much more quickly.

2100
03:06:32,240 --> 03:06:40,260
So I typed in ADA and what I have here is a listing of everything that may have that search.

2101
03:06:40,540 --> 03:06:46,560
You could put in more words to narrow it down, but this in itself brought us to where I think we want to be.

2102
03:06:47,740 --> 03:06:51,460
So that search feature is a real improvement from where we currently are.

2103
03:06:51,920 --> 03:06:57,440
So, but if you type in an ordinance number, it won't pull up the document yet.

2104
03:06:57,440 --> 03:07:06,880
that that we can try just try okay we'll see it 21 let's do it 22 5 1 7 I don't

2105
03:07:06,880 --> 03:07:15,540
think that was in no no okay so 21 what about ordinance 21 okay we'll have to

2106
03:07:15,540 --> 03:07:19,120
know the specific ordinance number to be able to pull it in I do agree the

2107
03:07:19,120 --> 03:07:23,560
legislative items could use a better indexing system in this room for

2108
03:07:23,560 --> 03:07:28,700
improvement there. Like Tom Clarke Gomez mentioned that is kept in our records

2109
03:07:28,700 --> 03:07:32,960
management software but hearing the feedback and what you value really

2110
03:07:32,960 --> 03:07:38,000
gives us more direction as to how we can better use that for you. Okay, yeah be

2111
03:07:38,000 --> 03:07:41,640
great if you know you could write in ordinance one two three or resolution

2112
03:07:41,640 --> 03:07:48,240
XYZ or whatever it is and there it was but that might be more than the

2113
03:07:48,240 --> 03:07:52,040
technology exists right now with everything in laser fish so and hope

2114
03:07:52,040 --> 03:07:56,460
to find that answer that will make it easier for everybody in the council to research and

2115
03:07:56,460 --> 03:07:57,700
find legislative documents.

2116
03:07:58,300 --> 03:08:01,480
We just need to learn a little bit more about that and what kind of connection we can do

2117
03:08:01,480 --> 03:08:01,740
with her.

2118
03:08:01,880 --> 03:08:02,620
With laser fish.

2119
03:08:02,700 --> 03:08:03,120
Laser fish.

2120
03:08:03,280 --> 03:08:03,420
Right.

2121
03:08:04,060 --> 03:08:07,720
I would have to say something that has impaired my ability to search is the fact that we

2122
03:08:07,720 --> 03:08:14,120
index things purely by the year and the ordinance or resolution number and additional

2123
03:08:14,120 --> 03:08:21,480
additional titling within that would really be useful when somebody from the

2124
03:08:21,480 --> 03:08:26,140
public is trying to find a document because we see it in that 2-2-4 format

2125
03:08:26,140 --> 03:08:31,140
and that's the language that we speak that may not be useful to everybody when

2126
03:08:31,140 --> 03:08:35,880
they're looking for a particular type of item. Yeah just a line of code, just

2127
03:08:35,880 --> 03:08:39,260
another line of code. When you know it you know it but that's not helpful for

2128
03:08:39,260 --> 03:08:43,000
our public and our residents when they're searching for something so noted.

2129
03:08:43,000 --> 03:08:43,620
Thank you.

2130
03:08:43,960 --> 03:08:48,360
And I just want to add too that our staff or whole staff was in a three-day training

2131
03:08:48,360 --> 03:08:52,220
for this new website, so everybody's ready and working hard to get this website up and

2132
03:08:52,220 --> 03:08:52,380
running.

2133
03:08:52,760 --> 03:08:57,920
So we'll do our best to meet all the needs of the public and just for the public to

2134
03:08:57,920 --> 03:09:01,020
be at work too, to let us know once the website goes live, to please let us know and

2135
03:09:01,020 --> 03:09:05,820
give us feedback so we can improve it because it's an ever-evolving product.

2136
03:09:06,140 --> 03:09:06,960
Now those are old pictures.

2137
03:09:07,180 --> 03:09:08,360
We haven't got the new pictures yet.

2138
03:09:09,360 --> 03:09:10,060
Oh, I should say that.

2139
03:09:10,220 --> 03:09:11,840
The pictures are basically done.

2140
03:09:11,840 --> 03:09:18,440
So I think I got the the proofs. Okay, so you can send them out so we can we can pick

2141
03:09:20,760 --> 03:09:23,240
I don't even want to pick for me so

2142
03:09:23,820 --> 03:09:28,640
So Hillary and Eddie I had a question for you because I have struggled to find the documents

2143
03:09:28,640 --> 03:09:34,300
And I I really agree with what Hillary says it depends on what it's titled because that's kind of the initial search

2144
03:09:34,300 --> 03:09:35,560
It does based on the title

2145
03:09:36,080 --> 03:09:39,540
But one thing I wanted to ask you is and this has occurred to me

2146
03:09:39,540 --> 03:09:45,580
Do you use this same system or do you have an internal document system that you use?

2147
03:09:45,760 --> 03:09:49,960
Are you still trying to get through the system the same way that we have been?

2148
03:09:50,380 --> 03:09:57,400
Our system is the same. What it does is link things that are in our records repository through a public facing portal page.

2149
03:09:57,720 --> 03:10:03,360
So essentially it's the same records management software. It is just the public facing element of it.

2150
03:10:03,440 --> 03:10:06,840
So our staff encounters the same kind of obstacles from time to time.

2151
03:10:06,840 --> 03:10:11,120
but with practice you learn how to search more effectively.

2152
03:10:11,360 --> 03:10:17,140
Okay, so I'm going to ask you just kind of a basic question and this has not to do with

2153
03:10:17,140 --> 03:10:24,900
the public but to do with the council is if we had the same ability to search for documents

2154
03:10:24,900 --> 03:10:29,940
that you do would we be able to find them more easily if then going through the public

2155
03:10:29,940 --> 03:10:30,420
website?

2156
03:10:31,780 --> 03:10:35,180
I cannot give you a very informed answer about that.

2157
03:10:35,180 --> 03:10:42,640
I know that if you sat with us and we gave you some instruction and training. I feel like you would be well equipped to do so

2158
03:10:42,640 --> 03:10:44,300
Through the public website, correct

2159
03:10:44,300 --> 03:10:50,440
So there's no advantage to the council members being able to access documents in the same way that the staff might be able to

2160
03:10:50,440 --> 03:10:54,900
I think you you get to see in two different places because one these documents are on the

2161
03:10:55,600 --> 03:10:58,240
Prangov system, so you already have access them through there

2162
03:10:58,240 --> 03:11:01,920
But publicly for everybody else they live right here

2163
03:11:01,920 --> 03:11:04,340
And it's actually that icon called document library.

2164
03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:06,640
If you don't mind clicking on that one here really quick.

2165
03:11:08,460 --> 03:11:10,940
And this is the one that is a little bit complicated.

2166
03:11:11,200 --> 03:11:12,860
But if you scroll down, you can see resolutions ordinance.

2167
03:11:13,260 --> 03:11:14,940
And those are clickable links.

2168
03:11:15,160 --> 03:11:16,000
So if you're looking for resolution,

2169
03:11:16,200 --> 03:11:18,060
you can attempt to look for it.

2170
03:11:18,440 --> 03:11:20,100
But again, we tend to use language

2171
03:11:20,100 --> 03:11:22,960
that we use at work rather than what people may be looking.

2172
03:11:23,080 --> 03:11:25,600
So it is by year, then resolution, and so on.

2173
03:11:25,660 --> 03:11:28,400
Yeah, so even though you would get trained.

2174
03:11:28,400 --> 03:11:28,940
Right.

2175
03:11:29,760 --> 03:11:34,900
Although, supposedly, the search looks inside the documents as well for the language that

2176
03:11:34,900 --> 03:11:40,320
you're using, for the text that you add in there, but what's difficult about that is because

2177
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:42,540
we have so much, so many documents.

2178
03:11:43,200 --> 03:11:47,620
It's so broad sometimes that it's really hard to nail it down unless you know what meaning

2179
03:11:47,620 --> 03:11:50,540
was it, what year was it, anything that can help you get closer to that.

2180
03:11:50,980 --> 03:11:56,860
But yeah, so yes, it's doable, you can get trained, but could you, even if you

2181
03:11:56,860 --> 03:11:58,580
took copious notes, go back and,

2182
03:11:58,800 --> 03:12:00,040
if you didn't do it for a month, remember?

2183
03:12:00,560 --> 03:12:01,040
Probably not.

2184
03:12:01,680 --> 03:12:04,120
It's just that cumbersome,

2185
03:12:04,200 --> 03:12:06,820
because I have all my shortcuts,

2186
03:12:07,160 --> 03:12:08,700
but then like, where's that, you know,

2187
03:12:09,240 --> 03:12:13,380
so it's not really, it's not really there yet.

2188
03:12:13,560 --> 03:12:15,200
And so that's really what.

2189
03:12:15,620 --> 03:12:17,180
Tom Clarke's office is always here

2190
03:12:17,180 --> 03:12:18,480
to assist you in your search.

2191
03:12:18,720 --> 03:12:19,240
Just know that.

2192
03:12:19,420 --> 03:12:21,180
So if there's an item that you're looking for,

2193
03:12:21,240 --> 03:12:22,960
we are always here to help you.

2194
03:12:23,160 --> 03:12:24,500
No, you guys are really excellent.

2195
03:12:24,700 --> 03:12:26,680
I just feel like sometimes it's not the best use

2196
03:12:26,680 --> 03:12:31,440
of your time. If I could find it, I'd like to, but you are more than helpful, so I appreciate

2197
03:12:31,440 --> 03:12:33,500
that. What I can tell you is that the new website

2198
03:12:33,500 --> 03:12:38,760
does have functions like Hillary was showing you, the predictive language, so as we learn

2199
03:12:38,760 --> 03:12:41,880
more, we'll be able to communicate that to you as well. So we're still in that learning

2200
03:12:41,880 --> 03:12:44,820
process just as much as you are. Okay. Thank you.

2201
03:12:45,920 --> 03:12:50,200
All right. Great. Looking forward to it. It's going to be, oh, go ahead.

2202
03:12:50,200 --> 03:12:56,740
Yes, the login is that I don't pay my bill through the town because water is

2203
03:12:56,740 --> 03:13:01,500
different is that specifically why would people want an account so the system

2204
03:13:01,500 --> 03:13:05,080
allows you to allows any user to create an account with the website so they can

2205
03:13:05,080 --> 03:13:10,920
subscribe to the different notification options it's not necessary but it is it

2206
03:13:10,920 --> 03:13:13,900
just makes it easier for you to navigate what information you are not

2207
03:13:13,900 --> 03:13:17,280
but that's separate whatever you're specifically asking about so that's

2208
03:13:17,280 --> 03:13:23,700
To footnote that, our Park and Recreation Department is transitioning to the Civic Rec module of

2209
03:13:23,700 --> 03:13:28,120
the same website vendor and residents will be able to create an account there to register

2210
03:13:28,120 --> 03:13:29,400
for various courses.

2211
03:13:29,700 --> 03:13:35,920
So that account will translate also to this platform and it pretty much is access to

2212
03:13:35,920 --> 03:13:39,860
our virtual town hall and allows you to use it for parks and recreation as well.

2213
03:13:40,020 --> 03:13:44,060
Because the goal here with this website is to create that virtual town hall feeling.

2214
03:13:44,060 --> 03:13:50,680
So it allows you to have that kind of connection of your account where you can save things and personalize it for your use

2215
03:13:50,680 --> 03:13:52,220
Wonderful. Thank you

2216
03:13:52,220 --> 03:14:00,180
All right, but that I'm moving on to item 12 council meeting reports announcements and agenda item requests. So I

2217
03:14:01,040 --> 03:14:02,660
will click off

2218
03:14:04,120 --> 03:14:05,200
NV TA

2219
03:14:05,780 --> 03:14:10,620
The only update can't remember when we had the meeting but I think it was last Wednesday

2220
03:14:10,620 --> 03:14:15,980
day at 1.30. So one thing I wanted to bring to everyone's attention, they are launching

2221
03:14:16,580 --> 03:14:25,800
a countywide vision zero plan. And the goal here is to eliminate fatal and severe injury

2222
03:14:25,800 --> 03:14:33,580
crashes on our roadways. So each one of the towns and municipalities will be working

2223
03:14:33,580 --> 03:14:43,140
on their traffic safety element and I know Director Ferns is probably having

2224
03:14:43,140 --> 03:14:50,800
Deputy Director Ramirez work on that, is that correct? And so I think it's going to

2225
03:14:50,800 --> 03:14:57,560
be great and sounds like an ambitious task but I hope it works. So that was the

2226
03:14:57,560 --> 03:14:58,200
report there.

2227
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,840
On here, I went to flood control the day before that, and we did, we have a lot of money that's

2228
03:15:09,840 --> 03:15:18,780
coming in that's been in on our board for a while, and so we've reallocated up to an additional

2229
03:15:18,780 --> 03:15:24,600
five million for some more floodwall work. There's two big floodwalls that they're now starting

2230
03:15:24,600 --> 03:15:33,740
taking strike so we approve the funds for those. So those are my updates. Any board

2231
03:15:33,740 --> 03:15:38,400
would you like to add to NVTA? Just a quick question for Director Ferns. Do you

2232
03:15:38,400 --> 03:15:45,340
tend the advisory group for NVTA? Is that part of your part of the

2233
03:15:45,340 --> 03:15:51,880
meetings? Town staff is. Deputy Director Ramirez is the chair of

2234
03:15:51,880 --> 03:15:54,020
to the NVTA TAC on behalf of the TAC.

2235
03:15:54,020 --> 03:15:54,380
Oh, great.

2236
03:15:54,580 --> 03:15:54,980
Congratulations.

2237
03:15:55,520 --> 03:15:55,640
Good.

2238
03:15:55,840 --> 03:15:56,200
That's great.

2239
03:15:56,580 --> 03:15:58,320
So I mean, that's some of the issues that we,

2240
03:15:58,860 --> 03:16:01,920
in our consent calendar, we got reports

2241
03:16:01,920 --> 03:16:05,560
of funding requests at NVTA applied for

2242
03:16:06,000 --> 03:16:09,760
through the Metropolitan Transportation Commission

2243
03:16:09,760 --> 03:16:14,820
for pedestrian bicycle projects funding

2244
03:16:14,820 --> 03:16:21,220
and then also for I think zero energy

2245
03:16:21,220 --> 03:16:28,660
So those kind of funding projects come a lot of times through our consent calendars, which

2246
03:16:28,660 --> 03:16:35,840
I assume you talked about that in the ad hoc or your group?

2247
03:16:36,500 --> 03:16:41,820
Yes, we talk them over and we do keep an eye out for any possible grant funding opportunities

2248
03:16:41,820 --> 03:16:46,580
for Yantville that we qualify for or that we could realistically utilize.

2249
03:16:46,580 --> 03:16:52,420
So if we do we are informed of all that those opportunities and we try to utilize them

2250
03:16:52,420 --> 03:16:56,200
Thank you for being there and looking out for the town's interests. Thank you

2251
03:16:57,260 --> 03:16:57,900
so

2252
03:16:57,900 --> 03:17:00,140
Could you just

2253
03:17:01,280 --> 03:17:09,440
Maybe expand on these two flood walls that are being funded. I I don't know. They're they're in Napa. Yeah, and

2254
03:17:10,220 --> 03:17:12,720
one is I believe

2255
03:17:13,500 --> 03:17:15,240
kind of down behind

2256
03:17:15,240 --> 03:17:23,440
Costco and then there's another one further, let's see, that would be East

2257
03:17:24,200 --> 03:17:30,820
approximately along Lincoln. Lincoln, yes, that would be the other one. So it's all

2258
03:17:30,820 --> 03:17:37,560
part of the big flood master plan in Napa. Right, okay, thank you. And luckily we

2259
03:17:37,560 --> 03:17:41,660
have the funds and they're getting ready to, they're working together with the

2260
03:17:41,660 --> 03:17:45,580
Army Corps of Engineers, collaboratively developing.

2261
03:17:45,880 --> 03:17:48,180
I think the designs are already in now.

2262
03:17:48,280 --> 03:17:51,620
They're just beginning to execute some further refinements

2263
03:17:51,620 --> 03:17:52,800
before they begin on those.

2264
03:17:54,220 --> 03:17:55,620
Upper Valley Waste Management,

2265
03:17:55,720 --> 03:17:58,360
we're going to meet April 17th.

2266
03:18:00,080 --> 03:18:02,860
And LAFCO, we are meeting April the third.

2267
03:18:03,840 --> 03:18:04,920
WIC, who's on WIC?

2268
03:18:05,620 --> 03:18:07,160
It's in April of a meeting.

2269
03:18:07,480 --> 03:18:09,420
Because you haven't had one since the last meeting.

2270
03:18:09,420 --> 03:18:11,940
Climate Action Committee, who's on that?

2271
03:18:12,160 --> 03:18:12,860
That's on Friday.

2272
03:18:13,180 --> 03:18:14,800
Okay, that's on Friday.

2273
03:18:15,440 --> 03:18:17,000
Any CalCities updates?

2274
03:18:18,140 --> 03:18:27,140
I attended the CalCities Policy Committee meeting on Friday by Zoom for the Community Services Policy Committee,

2275
03:18:27,340 --> 03:18:36,060
and we had some very good reports about state funding for early childhood transition,

2276
03:18:36,060 --> 03:18:44,740
kindergarten, that the timelines stretch over the next three or four years where schools

2277
03:18:44,740 --> 03:18:49,040
are required to provide more TK education.

2278
03:18:49,420 --> 03:18:57,180
And then, interesting discussion about funding, statewide funding and how to best get regional,

2279
03:18:57,380 --> 03:19:05,720
either county or city support for looking to address homelessness and whether money

2280
03:19:05,720 --> 03:19:11,860
should be sent through CSAC and the county organization, and the county should take a

2281
03:19:11,860 --> 03:19:14,540
lead or if the city should take a lead.

2282
03:19:14,960 --> 03:19:19,080
And most of the larger cities there were saying we really need to be more involved in

2283
03:19:19,080 --> 03:19:22,980
the process than waiting on a response from the county.

2284
03:19:23,220 --> 03:19:25,860
So we'll, I think, continue to talk about that.

2285
03:19:26,360 --> 03:19:27,140
All right.

2286
03:19:27,520 --> 03:19:28,480
Any other?

2287
03:19:30,240 --> 03:19:32,980
We have Council Standing Committee reports.

2288
03:19:33,720 --> 03:19:40,740
is the school and you found a date to meet with the school. Is there working on dates?

2289
03:19:41,860 --> 03:19:50,300
Yeah, we are working on dates. Okay. And let's see, council announcement and we'll do those first and

2290
03:19:50,300 --> 03:19:56,600
then we'll talk about an agenda item. Any council announcements? I think Vice Mayor had one. That

2291
03:19:56,600 --> 03:19:58,360
That was hours ago, you probably forgot, right?

2292
03:19:58,820 --> 03:20:05,100
Like I have some community, is that what you said?

2293
03:20:05,640 --> 03:20:06,500
Nope, I'm not sure.

2294
03:20:06,780 --> 03:20:08,460
All right, that's fine.

2295
03:20:09,020 --> 03:20:09,900
Agenda item.

2296
03:20:10,340 --> 03:20:12,180
I have one council, and I do too.

2297
03:20:12,240 --> 03:20:12,460
No, I do.

2298
03:20:12,700 --> 03:20:13,420
But go ahead, Eric.

2299
03:20:13,680 --> 03:20:13,900
Remember?

2300
03:20:14,140 --> 03:20:14,320
OK.

2301
03:20:14,620 --> 03:20:14,920
Saturday.

2302
03:20:16,120 --> 03:20:18,680
Yontville Little League is having opening day,

2303
03:20:19,000 --> 03:20:19,640
Saturday morning.

2304
03:20:19,940 --> 03:20:20,940
And so please come out.

2305
03:20:21,100 --> 03:20:24,140
We have a Yontville team and a couple teams

2306
03:20:24,140 --> 03:20:30,340
and the Qantas Club of Yonville will be doing a opening day breakfast that probably will

2307
03:20:30,340 --> 03:20:31,940
start about 8.39 so.

2308
03:20:32,680 --> 03:20:35,400
And your mayor will be throwing out the first pitch.

2309
03:20:36,320 --> 03:20:40,540
It's, unfortunately it's raining, I've only had one practice session so far, but that

2310
03:20:40,540 --> 03:20:41,300
was pretty good.

2311
03:20:41,660 --> 03:20:45,380
So I will be halfway between the pitchers mound and home plate.

2312
03:20:45,900 --> 03:20:50,900
I'm not, don't expect all the way from the pitchers mound and our team is called

2313
03:20:50,900 --> 03:20:51,540
the Giants.

2314
03:20:51,820 --> 03:20:53,140
So where Giants were?

2315
03:20:53,140 --> 03:20:56,360
So that was the first thing I did was picked out my outfit, but now

2316
03:20:57,540 --> 03:21:03,100
We I don't know I did just I just just have something with Giants. I don't know. Do you know their colors?

2317
03:21:04,280 --> 03:21:08,420
Orange and black, okay, well go with that. So

2318
03:21:08,960 --> 03:21:12,960
Come out for breakfast and watch the mayor. I

2319
03:21:12,960 --> 03:21:18,660
Was very fortunate to hear that there wouldn't be a little four-foot tall kid by the

2320
03:21:18,660 --> 03:21:21,940
at home plate that I, you know, could possibly injure.

2321
03:21:22,020 --> 03:21:23,400
I just have to get it to the catcher.

2322
03:21:23,620 --> 03:21:27,380
So I feel pretty confident that risk management will be okay

2323
03:21:27,380 --> 03:21:28,860
and you guys have appropriate insurance.

2324
03:21:29,060 --> 03:21:30,720
But I'll be very careful with that.

2325
03:21:30,880 --> 03:21:32,820
So come out and wear your giant's wear

2326
03:21:32,820 --> 03:21:36,420
and have some pancake breakfast.

2327
03:21:36,700 --> 03:21:38,860
It'll be a hoot watching me throw the ball.

2328
03:21:39,120 --> 03:21:44,460
So, and any other agenda item?

2329
03:21:44,820 --> 03:21:46,600
I mean, council announcements.

2330
03:21:47,380 --> 03:21:53,140
Yes, I wanted to just mention, because it's still going on, that one of our Yontville

2331
03:21:53,140 --> 03:22:01,860
residents, Deb Alterstar, invited I think all of us to attend the Visible Threads exhibition

2332
03:22:01,860 --> 03:22:04,300
at the Napa Historical Society.

2333
03:22:04,540 --> 03:22:11,380
It's being, it was sponsored by the Napa Valley Latino Heritage Committee and mostly

2334
03:22:11,380 --> 03:22:13,580
done by students, some beautiful artwork.

2335
03:22:13,580 --> 03:22:20,220
So, I would really, at that particular gathering on Saturday, Congressman Mike Thompson was

2336
03:22:20,220 --> 03:22:24,420
there honoring the students, and there's just some really inspiring artwork.

2337
03:22:24,720 --> 03:22:27,300
So, I would encourage anybody who's interested.

2338
03:22:27,500 --> 03:22:36,400
And also, I should mention Deb Alterstar received a $5,000 community Hearts of Napa

2339
03:22:36,400 --> 03:22:41,360
Volunteer of the Year Award for her really sounds like dedicated work on this project.

2340
03:22:41,360 --> 03:22:47,760
So it's there through April and if you're downtown on 1st Street, it's really worth seeing downtown Napa. Yes

2341
03:22:47,760 --> 03:22:50,840
The building that's the Napa Historical Society

2342
03:22:50,840 --> 03:22:52,840
Goodman Library

2343
03:22:53,400 --> 03:22:55,260
And Shredded Day

2344
03:22:56,020 --> 03:23:00,940
Run every year. I know we just got our calendars booked for April 21st. I'll be

2345
03:23:01,640 --> 03:23:05,820
Getting shredded a started and racing back here for that meeting

2346
03:23:05,820 --> 03:23:09,300
But I want to give everyone a heads up that is April the

2347
03:23:10,200 --> 03:23:15,320
21st from 12 to 3 it'll be in the back of the community center so drag out all

2348
03:23:15,320 --> 03:23:20,000
those papers that you need shredded and don't put any batteries in there I don't

2349
03:23:20,000 --> 03:23:24,680
like to call the fire department every year to put my shredded truck is there

2350
03:23:24,680 --> 03:23:30,280
going to be e-waste or yes we'll have e-waste we'll have a e-waste truck and

2351
03:23:30,280 --> 03:23:34,960
we're going to have two shredded trucks this year so we it's going to be

2352
03:23:34,960 --> 03:23:42,240
Yep, and that is 12-3 April 21st at the community center.

2353
03:23:42,560 --> 03:23:44,260
So drop those off.

2354
03:23:44,740 --> 03:23:47,860
And agenda item request, do you like to talk about?

2355
03:23:47,940 --> 03:23:48,540
Yes.

2356
03:23:48,840 --> 03:23:54,000
And just on announcements also Visit Napa Valley is doing a Napa Valley destination showcase

2357
03:23:54,000 --> 03:23:58,300
on the Thursday, the 30th from two to five at Copia.

2358
03:23:58,540 --> 03:24:03,700
So it's where Yonville, in addition to all the other cities and villages here in town,

2359
03:24:03,700 --> 03:24:09,380
We'll talk about their tourism updates and kind of their state of the union if you will.

2360
03:24:10,760 --> 03:24:16,860
So in seeing the website and knowing that we're kind of relaunching and rebranding that

2361
03:24:16,860 --> 03:24:22,320
and also knowing we're going to be making some kind of a logo for the new gallery name,

2362
03:24:22,660 --> 03:24:29,100
I wanted to see what everybody's appetite was for looking at our logo.

2363
03:24:29,100 --> 03:24:36,480
logo. I noticed that you used the logo on the home page that was not the cursive logo,

2364
03:24:36,600 --> 03:24:42,260
so now it looks like we're kind of using two. So that was interesting to see, and it certainly

2365
03:24:42,780 --> 03:24:50,460
it looked really good on that page. It was readable, very visible, and bold. And so I

2366
03:24:50,460 --> 03:24:54,060
love the cursive logo with the church in the background, but I wanted to see if anybody

2367
03:24:54,060 --> 03:24:57,760
thought it could possibly be time to revisit.

2368
03:24:58,800 --> 03:25:07,680
Just for historical context, we had the originality that, what do you call it, the cursive.

2369
03:25:08,760 --> 03:25:12,000
Written on the logo, it just didn't look right because it's so much finer.

2370
03:25:12,440 --> 03:25:15,300
So that's why we had to switch it to something that was more readable for the website specifically.

2371
03:25:15,700 --> 03:25:20,580
Yeah, and I think even on clothing because it's so fine, it's beautiful, but it is,

2372
03:25:20,580 --> 03:25:25,580
people really have to look and I know we have younger people on the team that

2373
03:25:25,580 --> 03:25:30,800
don't read cursive so it did come up when one of our staff members are they

2374
03:25:30,800 --> 03:25:35,640
don't teach it anymore you know the internet went down for about 30 minutes

2375
03:25:35,640 --> 03:25:39,720
one day and somehow the conversation came up do you even know cursive and

2376
03:25:39,720 --> 03:25:43,800
know some of the younger generation does not I would also note while we're

2377
03:25:43,800 --> 03:25:48,620
on the topic of ADA compliance having a logo with a boulder font allows much

2378
03:25:48,620 --> 03:25:54,720
more flexibility in creating uniform design that is compatible with that and compliant.

2379
03:25:55,440 --> 03:25:59,140
So it is something the town would like to look into in the future if the council so wishes.

2380
03:25:59,720 --> 03:26:06,520
So would we need to bring it back to council or is this something that we could just first

2381
03:26:06,520 --> 03:26:13,520
inquire the art commission if they would have some interest or be guidance from us?

2382
03:26:13,520 --> 03:26:19,040
I think one there's obviously when under the future agenda item consideration is if there's

2383
03:26:19,040 --> 03:26:22,980
consensus and direction then staff can go someplace with that.

2384
03:26:23,560 --> 03:26:29,740
So sensing consensus that you want to look at something, what I might suggest though

2385
03:26:29,740 --> 03:26:35,820
is that you might put that on for more discussion because for example if you want to send it

2386
03:26:35,820 --> 03:26:40,240
to the Arts Commission which I think could be a very interesting idea, you may also

2387
03:26:40,240 --> 03:26:45,700
want to provide some expectations and parameters or they may go down a path and get all excited

2388
03:26:45,700 --> 03:26:49,180
about something and bring you back something that you're not so excited about.

2389
03:26:49,920 --> 03:26:55,260
Because I would definitely tell them what I don't want, so, and then let their creative

2390
03:26:55,260 --> 03:26:56,020
juices go.

2391
03:26:57,220 --> 03:27:01,160
So it would be a simple discussion and I know we're going to have transition and

2392
03:27:01,160 --> 03:27:09,320
we've promised our new interim town manager we weren't going to load you up so there's

2393
03:27:09,320 --> 03:27:10,300
There's no rush.

2394
03:27:10,700 --> 03:27:11,480
There's no rush.

2395
03:27:11,880 --> 03:27:12,600
There's no rush.

2396
03:27:12,700 --> 03:27:17,860
But I also wanted to make sure we're not spending, you know, a new sign or something with an

2397
03:27:17,860 --> 03:27:20,240
old logo so I was trying to bring it up.

2398
03:27:20,240 --> 03:27:26,180
I think, you know, what I'm going to hypothesize based on experience is graphics are one thing.

2399
03:27:26,540 --> 03:27:27,840
The town name is one thing.

2400
03:27:28,520 --> 03:27:31,420
The stylized village community is another thing.

2401
03:27:31,540 --> 03:27:34,520
So right now those are all elements of your existing logo.

2402
03:27:34,520 --> 03:27:42,380
It might be easier to just pull out what are you really most interested?

2403
03:27:42,940 --> 03:27:47,760
Is it the font and getting it to a more contemporary font that's ADA compliant?

2404
03:27:48,640 --> 03:27:52,240
Or do you want, and I mean communities do this periodically,

2405
03:27:52,480 --> 03:27:55,360
or do you want to say this logo has had a great run

2406
03:27:56,060 --> 03:27:58,740
and it's time for something new that reflects where we're going?

2407
03:27:58,860 --> 03:28:00,940
And none of that conversation, I'm just thinking,

2408
03:28:00,940 --> 03:28:07,980
I mean, it probably, we can bring that back as a future item for a little more discussion,

2409
03:28:08,360 --> 03:28:13,240
but I think there's, I'm hearing an interest, you're just going to need to provide a little

2410
03:28:13,240 --> 03:28:15,620
more direction on how far, what.

2411
03:28:16,760 --> 03:28:23,220
Maybe we wait until we have a new town manager, I mean, too, that might be kind of appropriate.

2412
03:28:23,220 --> 03:28:24,860
That would fit into no rush.

2413
03:28:25,260 --> 03:28:25,780
Yeah, exactly.

2414
03:28:27,480 --> 03:28:29,220
No, there's a rush for that.

2415
03:28:29,220 --> 03:28:36,580
There's no Raj and it won't be the first thing he has to do so all right. We'll put it on the the long agenda list

2416
03:28:37,260 --> 03:28:38,920
That sounds good and

2417
03:28:38,920 --> 03:28:40,680
Then item J

2418
03:28:41,380 --> 03:28:49,020
Other potential future agenda items sexual assault awareness month and art month proclamations are coming up

2419
03:28:49,020 --> 03:28:52,160
Also, we'll be having a proclamation for

2420
03:28:52,160 --> 03:28:56,500
Cindy Paulson for her 40th anniversary at Mustard's

2421
03:28:57,060 --> 03:28:59,680
Master fee schedule, community center,

2422
03:28:59,900 --> 03:29:02,300
state, shade structure project,

2423
03:29:02,500 --> 03:29:05,940
one of my favorites, budget development update,

2424
03:29:06,760 --> 03:29:08,400
open gov budget demonstration,

2425
03:29:09,080 --> 03:29:10,400
water conservation update.

2426
03:29:10,660 --> 03:29:13,700
Yeah, we didn't get one this meeting, John,

2427
03:29:13,820 --> 03:29:14,420
we missed out.

2428
03:29:14,820 --> 03:29:16,420
Finance report, investment report,

2429
03:29:17,000 --> 03:29:18,480
Chamber of Commerce presentation,

2430
03:29:19,360 --> 03:29:21,140
all, no dates have been set for these,

2431
03:29:21,220 --> 03:29:22,560
but just so everyone knows what's coming,

2432
03:29:22,560 --> 03:29:29,120
affordable and workforce housing oversight committee annual presentation so

2433
03:29:29,120 --> 03:29:34,980
with that I am going also just that we will also have a public hearing on the

2434
03:29:34,980 --> 03:29:39,740
land use the item that just went before the zoning design review board for the

2435
03:29:39,740 --> 03:29:44,960
color property to you in your capacity as a put your hats on planning

2436
03:29:44,960 --> 03:29:49,200
commission right so this is where you are all asking for your your red light

2437
03:29:49,200 --> 03:29:55,080
alert or the flashing yellow this will be a public hearing a public hearing

2438
03:29:55,080 --> 03:29:57,640
quasi judicial so there we go

2439
03:30:01,000 --> 03:30:06,140
Design review and use permit review for the proposed French voluntary lounge.

2440
03:30:06,740 --> 03:30:09,500
Okay. And you might be in the public. Who knows?

2441
03:30:10,060 --> 03:30:15,380
All right. We're going to move into closed session. Do we have a closed session? And what's the title, Attorney Bell?

2442
03:30:16,100 --> 03:30:19,840
We do. There is one closed session item on tonight's agenda.

2443
03:30:20,060 --> 03:30:25,500
It's a public employee performance evaluation under government code section 54957.

2444
03:30:25,940 --> 03:30:27,400
It's regarding the town manager.

2445
03:30:27,400 --> 03:30:33,020
All right. Thank you, everybody who's racing out the door.

2446
03:30:33,820 --> 03:30:36,240
Actually, take the floor with you.

2447
03:30:36,240 --> 03:30:36,620
Thank you.