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Ready? Okay, council is ready. I'm going to call to order today's excuse me. Excuse me. I'm calling me in order. Thank you very much. I'm going to call today's meeting to order. This is our regular town council meeting for Tuesday, July 21 at 3 p.m. And I also wanted to note before we get started that council member McKee is joining us remotely.

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And remind council member McKee if you'd like to speak. Don't use raise your hand feature. Thank you. And with that call to order, can we get a roll call vote please.

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Yes, first mayor. I would like to say that council member McKee is joining us today due to just cause under the Brown Act. Council member McKee for the record. Are there any individuals 18 years of age or older president in the room with you in your remote location?

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Council member McKee, can you hear me? No, I was unable to hear you.

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And okay, no, no, no. And what is the house? Not in the room. Thank you for that. Okay.

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And also one more note, the raise a hand feature because this is noticed as a hybrid meeting, the public is able to participate virtually as well. And if they wish to do so, what we ask that they use the raise the hand function within the Zoom platform to let us know that they would like to make comment.

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All right. Thank you very much for that.

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Roll call. Council member McKee.

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Here. Council member Trip. Here. Council member Knight. Here.

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Nice mayor Reeves. Here. Mayor Moller. Here. If we could all stand and say the pledge of allegiance, if you can. Thank you.

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And now I'd like to get a motion to adopt today's agenda with a second please.

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Option of the agenda.

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Hi, second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed and it's staying that passes unanimously.

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Now time for council member announcements.

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Anything from our remote council member? Nope.

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Anybody else on the council want to make an announcement? Mayor. Yes.

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Briefly, I wasn't at the last meeting. I just want to take an opportunity to know it's the last meeting.

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The council recognize our parks and recreation staff for the good work they do for the community.

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And I would be a miss if I didn't say that I appreciate all the work that parks and rec does and if we're director Holland and for all her team.

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This morning driving through town. It's very heartening to see camp yacht bill at Schmidt Hall and hearing the sounds and activity that are occurring on the comments and the use we're getting for children that need that programming.

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So thank you for all the work that you do. Thank you.

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Comments. Yeah, I just wanted to remind people about picnic with a vet that will be happening on Wednesday August the fifth at 11 am at the picnic grounds at the veterans home, which is behind the baseball field.

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And if you would like to participate, we would love to have you there. We're planning on 40 members from the veterans home half from the higher care department and half from the independent living side.

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So we would love to have as many residents as we can come to the event and just share food with the veterans we will be providing the food because it has to come from a commercial kitchen and there will be a really small donation fee for lunch for the residents from town as your participation support.

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So if you would like to do this with us, you can call Iran Jenny or text her at nine to five eight nine nine nine nine seven zero eight or you can reach her by email.

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Jenny's J-E-N-N-Y-S-R-S at ATT.net. So if you reach out to her, she can give you more information on how to participate.

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So I hope to see you there.

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And also I wanted to begin this meeting with a statement of some of the accomplishments of this council on staff with input from our commissions over the last three plus years.

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It's important to remind ourselves and our resident constituents of the good work that has already occurred and some that is on the way.

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Some of these projects aim to enhance our lifestyles as residents or address sustainability and preparedness or support businesses and ultimately they all serve to in live in our town and move us forward.

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So let's start with number one, which is reimagining and constructing the barbecue area at community center now named buds barbecue.

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So this was sort of destined as a storage place and it is now a focal point of our community center and Barbara's kitchen is also in the queue to be updated and provide expanded kitchen use.

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We have been designing and installing shade structures to enhance our gathering spaces like the ones at the north park and the community center Plaza and the shade for the barbecue area is in the research and design process right now.

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We identified funding and are out for design and engineering on a 1 million gallon water storage tank for resiliency which can help keep water rates low when we are noting it as a resource in our new rate study that's coming up soon.

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We were awarded a $250,000 grant from Mike Thompson's office to start our first micro grid project for town as part of wildfire and emergency resilience.

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This first step could help us to the town into a future energy independence and we completed the sustainably constructed parking lot at the south end of town which has provisions for EV chargers, which is part of our sustainable enhancement for residents and businesses.

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As it will alleviate bus and higher car parking that sometimes causes problems.

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We re-imagined.

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Young will days to fit into the actual months of incorporation and to relieve the businesses of the disruption of a closure of Washington Street for the parade when it was the high season in October.

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We have a conversion and activation of seven new public benefit uses at the commons.

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The farms said garden, the farms said in coupe, the yacht will fit locals lounge and the dog park.

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Additionally, we have a room 11 meeting room for just conferring with residents and council and the Don and Sally Schmidt Hall all for the use of local enhancement.

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We have had the creation of a partnership between the outville, the city of Napa and the vet's home to use Napa testing facilities to alleviate those unnecessary boil water notices.

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We also have been working with the chamber to promote youngville first and foremost all actions being towards supporting our local economy.

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And we have adopted a two year budget cycle to allow more time for planning and we reviewed and established clear policy for budget reserves for emergencies and anticipated needs and made sure that each fund is at the target amount or more.

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We've established the town of Yantville as a blue zone employer and re-established a positive working relationship with the administrator of the vet's home and the secretary of Calvet.

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We also created Yantville's entertainment zone, the only one in Napa Valley to enhance flexibility for resident and business events.

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We had an efficient and aesthetic repaving of Yantville's Washington Street in just three days along with sidewalk installations to enhance the furnages of businesses like GTO's, punches and the French laundry garden.

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And enhance the vine trail entrances and exits on Weber Street and Madison working with Napa Valley transit authority to right size our Yantville be bus and its service, making it more responsive to our needs.

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And the installation of year round festive lights throughout the town as a safety measure as well as aesthetic feature and on top of that we established a business and community development program.

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To operate with and assist businesses to take advantage of slowerments with new programs and events.

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This can boost businesses and ensure a reliable consistent TOT income for town operations since that's the bulk of our budget is coming out of that income.

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We are in the process of redesigning our wayfinding signs and general town signage and we've developed concepts for Yantville legacy trail pointing out historically significant places in town to parallel our successful artwork.

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We continue to look at enhancements all over town for parks and pocket parks and this is a long list but it's just this sample snapshot of what has been accomplished and is planned by the council.

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I think sometimes residents don't actually know what we do and these are examples of what has been done in the last several years by this council and all of this work has been done while all town services and maintenance.

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We continue to be accomplished at the highest standards.

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As council members, we volunteer to serve our community.

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We are not professional politicians.

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We rely on other community members and on our boards and commissions to advise us but the heavy lifting is done by our staff.

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And sometimes by consultants and contractors we listen and gather information and hold public meetings.

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We are residents first and your neighbors.

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We are people who enjoy making good things happen for the community.

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I will finish by addressing those who have been so aggressive in falting this council's actions and impunity our intelligence and integrity.

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As you have heard, the comments is one of our projects.

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It's purchased was identified by the community and all council members as our highest priority.

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And the through that though the housing project has been put on hold the property still provides many benefits to town residents.

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To move forward with any project at the Commons, all community input deserves to be heard.

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Not only the loudest most recent commenters, we cannot discount public input that got us to this point.

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Their contributions matter.

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And workforce housing was a stated use for the property from the beginning.

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The chaos of the referendum seems now to be an end run to manufacture division at election time.

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These past couple of months have changed our community.

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In UNO based on personal agendas and a misinterpretation of the purpose of the project and data is not a way to engage in a fair community process.

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Conversations and invitation only meetings.

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Forminating personal grievance and creating a haven for negativity and falsehoods further erode community spirit with misunderstanding.

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This is the creator of division.

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The creation of an alternative or shadow community designed to destroy the existing structure of the community has split the town.

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We need to come back together as a whole community in order to thrive.

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Council members on this day as are committed to the democratic process that centers on public meetings where all are welcome to participate.

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I'm saddened that one council member decided to go out of the democratic process, armed with suspicions and incomplete information to seek some sort of vindication.

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These actions effectively negated all discussions and untold hours of work, and robbed the community of an open discussion, while costing the town hundreds of thousands of dollars, which ironically is one of her recurring concerns that we are not being financially responsible.

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Staying in the process would have been fiscally responsible, contributing to the discussions and decisions would have been fiscally responsible.

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We are a council of five members, exactly so that anyone member cannot control the process.

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Choosing to leave the democratic process has weakened trust and created upheaval and division in town.

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The community deserves an open process and the opportunity to work on disagreements with an open heart, a creative mind and a tolerant spirit.

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We are not in government to win. We're here to seek answers and solutions that promote the well-being of the community.

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We may not always agree, but we all have decided on this form of community governance that is inclusive and open, allowing us to exchange ideas within the legal guidelines which serve as guardrails for trust.

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Our goal is to make things work, not to take sides. Communication is an ongoing and important element of any process and its lack is a common pitfall for organizations and groups.

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This council agrees that there should have been better communication which could have allowed for more discussion rather than dissension.

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We are trying to create more varied channels to bring more information to all residents so that we can engage in discussions together where we work from the same information.

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We've begun with more informational items on our agenda. We are bringing more information to the connection newsletter that you can sign up for on our website.

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And we are working to bring a paper newsletter to your mailbox. Also on the communication front our website will be debuting a new look and will undoubtedly be easier to navigate.

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All of this work is ongoing and I hope that you will all join us to explore what youngville will do about its next housing responsibilities and how we can work together to create to recreate what we had before. Thank you.

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And I too would like to make an announcement.

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Thank you for the list of accomplishments certainly a lot has been done. This is not in my understanding a form for political speeches accusing people. In case any of you didn't get it, I am the one that council member was referring to.

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And I actually think if you're going to call someone out, you should do it with a courage by name. I wish I had the power to cast a spell over all the people who participated in this process and came forward and voice their concerns over the last period since January of 2026.

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But unfortunately I don't have that power and instead what we have had is a vast number of people come forward and state their opinion and make their opinions known and they can say it in as loud of voice as they want and in any format they want I believe.

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And I've been giving this a lot of thought. It is our 250th anniversary in the United States. The first amendment is my favorite part of the Constitution and it guarantees and that is the foundation of democracy.

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Democracy is not always about everybody getting along and five people agreeing and everything I said I said many times in public.

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So just go back and look at the meetings, many of the things I've said since the council member raised the commons were said in public as well as private.

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But getting back to the first amendment my main point is democracy is about the ability to assemble freely you can assemble in a group where no one else was invited you can assemble in your house you can assemble to talk about whatever the heck you want to talk about or just have fun.

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There is no legal rule that everyone needs to be included or that everybody has to agree with what you say. So we have the right to assemble which we have been using and we'll be using during the election period and we have the right to freedom of speech and also the right to criticize our government.

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And I certainly have experienced some of that personally as an elected official, but I just want to say I encourage everyone to be here and despite the idea of division you have not heard me criticize anybody's way of speaking out about things they're timing their thoughts because that is actually democracy.

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And so I want to stand for democracy and for people being able to voice their concerns about government and if you don't think that this has been in some ways a positive process look at the last several council meetings.

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We have never had for the most part in my experience regularly more than two people show up and we do now and my goal and I have many people who heard me say this starting last December wasn't to tell people what to do but to tell people what was going on and let them make their decision.

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Of course I have my own view but that was the goal and I actually think that's what democracy is about not five people all agreeing all going in the same direction.

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And if the notion is I had some ability to cast a spell let's count the votes it was four to one and I continued to say what I thought was right and I actually think that's a good part of democracy.

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So I don't think it's appropriate to make speeches during this period but having been attacked and called out I do want to represent my point of view and also put in my two cents for the right for all of us to get together talk about politics talk about our elected leaders do it with whoever we want and invite anybody we want because I can guarantee you there's a lot of parties and you don't feel I don't get invited to.

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And that could be a good thing or a bad thing I'm not really the most fun person it but anyway enough.

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So previously met in close session I do use myself but is there any reportable actions from the close session.

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There's no reportable action.

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Thank you very much. I will move on to proclamations and recognition yes.

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Robin I can't remember McKie has raised her hand. Oh, great. I didn't see that I apologize. Yes. Councilmember McKie.

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I wanted to remind the public on March 1st.

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I wrote a letter. I stated it there in the chambers and I put it in the paper that I said let me clear.

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If I was asked to vote on this today it would be no. I was asked to approve the unit mix in the funding strategy day I would also vote no.

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So for other people to cast a spurs saying will never know what the votes were going to be.

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I would like to remind people that I made it known after the February 17 meeting at our very next meeting that I had nowhere near enough information and that I was voting no.

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So please don't quantify my own and cast the spurs and it's to say that I was going anywhere else with the yes though.

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Thank you.

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Now it's time for public comment on anything that is not on our agenda we only have a couple things regarding the budget and our state of housing in the on fill so you can come up and speak on anything and again just out of respect for everybody if we could hold any you know applause booze or anything like that so everyone feels comfortable coming up.

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So who would like to come up and address the council.

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Wait your microphone's not on move fix that.

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Thank you.

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My name is Jill Turner and my suggestion to the previous speeches we should have stopped after all those wonderful accomplishments that's shame that that didn't happen.

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It seems like the negative remarks continue and I think some of you were the ones who are can want you to continue to make.

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To say negative things about what's going on many of us who opposed some of the decisions that were made are really to move on we want to move forward we don't want to be continuing to do that.

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So and this is maybe an obnoxious thing and I'll say it anyway.

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I think it would be good thing that even town council members have a limit of five minutes to speak okay.

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So finally I think we're going a lot over a lot of old ground that we've done you know that we've talked about before the council comments many of us who are very year to move on and go in a different direction.

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So I would encourage you to close that chapter we want to move on and hopefully you all do too.

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Thank you.

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By else want to come up.

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So Jill we can't speak after one another because the microphone is too low.

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I'm Stephen Becker and what I want to talk about it has to do with the search committee for the new town manager.

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This is a transition point very much so for young Phil and for the town council.

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So we will reimagine the comments we will reimagine the two imperatives that the town has as property owners of the commons and to meet the obligations of the affordable housing that the state requires.

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It's also a transition period because of the coming November election where three of the five members will stand for election.

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And the job of the town council if I may be so bold is to look both at the long term and the short term needs of the town.

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With the division that we're so clearly articulated by council member Reeves.

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There is a great deal of revision and you can leave a legacy as this town council that the new town council will have to live within the town will have to live with.

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So where am I going with this where I am going with this is you should put a pause on halt and stop the search for the new town manager.

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Every entity in the private sector or in the public sector functions best when leadership has a chance to develop a cohesive vision for that entity in this case the town.

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Vidal to that will be the town manager working in a alliance cohesion and unity with the board the board may well change I'm sorry the board the council may well change you should give the town the opportunity you should give the new council the opportunity to select the town manager.

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You have absolutely the right to select that person but not every right that you have should be exercised if you have a long term vision if you have a sense of transition and what is ahead for the town do the right thing here.

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Hold the search for the new town manager until the elections have occurred and the new town council is seated.

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Thank you everybody else like to come up and address the council.

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See nobody moving forward.

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I will close the public comment period.

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Council member Mickey has a question.

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Yes. Council member Keith.

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And follow up to Mr. Becker.

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I would like to ask the town manager on his experience in his many years of service.

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Do you have any way of quantifying how many times you.

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Experienced change of council, whether two, three, four members, just from your perspective, I'd be curious to know that.

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Thank you. May I respond? Yes, please.

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Thank you council member McKee for your question. It is part and parcel of a town manager city manager's job to go through transitions in council.

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We have elections, every city has elections, every couple years. There's always a potential and there always are new people elected to council that the manager must develop a relationship with and learn to work productively with one or more council members.

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So it's not uncommon for a manager to be confronting transition in council.

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The potential transition that our town manager or next town manager might be confronting, you know, maybe coming sooner than this ideal.

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But the manager's job is to implement the vision of council. You're going to get applicants who are familiar and working with different council members, different council members,

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so they will be able to establish effective working relationships if needed and they will be taking direction from either the current council, a new council or a combination there of on what the interests of that council are and working with your staff to execute and carry out those interests.

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Thank you for your comments. I appreciate that. Is that anything else council member.

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Okay. I am moving on to the consent calendar. Just two items tonight.

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This afternoon.

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I guess it still is afternoon in my book and I get a motion and a second to approve the consent calendar and then I'll take public comment.

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Here I move approval of consent calendar consent calendar items A and B.

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A second.

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And is there any public who would like to comment on either one of our consent calendar items?

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Seeing none. I will bring it back for vote all in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed and abstain. That passes unanimously. Thank you very much.

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And we have no guest presentations, no public hearings.

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No administrative items and two staff reports. The first one is to receive an online budget demonstration.

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So I see Kyle sitting here and this is in response to public comment.

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So I would like to have this information on how to navigate our budget.

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And we'll also be providing some summary information as well. So Kyle, it's all yours.

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Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to wait for.

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Miss Gatida, pass along the mouse.

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Do we need another one so I go maybe we should get a budget to be connected to the computer

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I will follow your lead Kyle.

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Okay that sounds good.

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All right good afternoon Mayor, town council.

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My name is Kyle the teased of the financial analyst for the town.

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A couple of months ago at the May 19th Council meeting,

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town council approved adoption of the towns by annual budget.

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That covers two fiscal years fiscal year 202627

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and fiscal year 202728.

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As of July 1st we are now in the new fiscal year 202627

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and with that we have the new 2627 budget on our website so the purpose of this presentation

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is just to show how to go to our website and access the budget.

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So first you'll open your browser and you'll go to the town of yantill.com

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and then if you scroll down a little bit you'll see those six buttons there

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and then Hillary is hovering over the budget button so just select that

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and then it will open up the table of contents.

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So this is the Bay annual budget for fiscal years 26272728.

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So there is information on this historical information going back a couple of fiscal years.

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There is fiscal year 2526 and then there are the two future years.

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And the way that this is broken up if you see section one this is the budget introduction

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and overview which shows kind of an overview of the budget.

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If you want to see some information about the general fund overview, town fiscal policies

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so it's a little bit more informational and then if you scroll down a little bit

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starting in section two there are individual departments stories

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is what we call them which are pretty much pages if you had a physical budget

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that if you're curious about any individual departments such as the IT department, the town manager department

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if you scroll down a little bit let's look at it and we'll take a look at a parks and recs department

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that's okay Hillary.

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Each of these blue links will open up a new page.

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If you want to open up let's do the community events department 015413.

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So here's an example of what each of the pages look like.

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It will give a department overview.

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So for this this is the parks and rec community events page.

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So if you scroll down a little bit you'll see all of the events that we're planning

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and then we talk about the Bay annual budget goals.

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Some of the if you scroll up a little bit Hillary sorry.

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There's the budget insights that section kind of highlights what changed from the prior

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fiscal year to the current fiscal year and then if you scroll down to the department expenditures table.

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So if you see along the the headers there you see there's a couple years of historical there's about

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there's three years of historical now we're still finalizing 2526.

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It's a few months until we close out our fiscal year.

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And then if you use the side bar Hillary to scroll a little bit to the side.

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At the bottom of the table.

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You'll see exactly it goes and then scroll up a little bit.

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So it will show the last two columns are the 2627 adopted.

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So that's the current fiscal year that we're in now and then the last columns of 2728.

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So this will it splits it up by personnel and then scroll down a little bit.

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You see the supplies and services the total expenditures.

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And this is all just for this one community events department.

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And then if you hit back on the browser it'll go back to the table of contents.

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And you can just navigate throughout the whole budget this way.

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It's it's like a physical copy.

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It's just there's a different link for each department.

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And then you can see starting in section three there's the enterprise funds are water and wastewater utility funds.

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And then section five special revenue funds and so on.

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So all of those links are just like pages that we looked at for the parks and wreck.

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And I did also want to highlight section nine there the capital projects funds.

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If you open up the last link the town of Yonville five year CIP this four casts over the next five years, including.

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The current fiscal year 2627 all of our planned capital improvements projects.

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I mean, split it by civic facilities and parks and wrecks projects major maintenance projects things like that.

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So split up by different.

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You're going to types of projects and then if you go back.

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One page please and if you want to look at and then go back to section nine with the capital projects.

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The first link capital improvements so now we're looking at the current fiscal year list of projects.

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And it gives a little bit of detail for the project of the current fiscal year that we're in.

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So if you have a curious what projects we're all working on mostly public works.

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And then you can just go through this list and you can see and you can give us a call if you have any questions.

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But that is pretty much it it's a pretty simple web page with a lot of information.

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If you're looking for anything specific you can always call the town.

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Seven seven nine four four eight eight five one you can walk through the doors you can chat with us you can ask for me.

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Kyle the Tsta or you can ask for Celia the administrative services director and we're happy to answer any questions that you have.

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Can you just pull up as somebody just wanted to see you know the simplest overview.

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What are our you know general expenses in terms of dollars and revenue where would they go.

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So under section one if you go down a little bit this general fund overview.

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It's about 15 or so down yeah.

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So this here this has a lot of information it is specific to the general funds so it doesn't include enterprise funds doesn't include.

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I mean our capital projects funds 50 or 81 or 82 but if you scroll down a little bit so you can see that the.

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Pipes heart there of our general fund revenues that we're expecting.

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For fiscal year 2627 you can see about 57% of it is the TOT and then there's the sales tax that makes up 11.

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And a half percent property tax makes up about 18 19% so this is the revenue snapshot and if you scroll down a little more.

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This is just a history of our three primary revenues which property tax sales tax and TOT.

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This talks about our fund balance allocation after you start the the beginning fiscal year.

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What are fund balances at all the expected revenues take out all the expected expenditures and then you have a dollar amount left over this is how it is split out.

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And then keep scrolling down there will be some expenditures here too and then so similar a pie chart here to the revenue but our expenditures public safety public works planning and building.

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Etc. So this is the best place to look at our fund one general fund.

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All right so if I was also just last question.

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I wanted something was happening in the town and we were spending.

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For various reasons a lot more money than we had really budgeted for in a certain area say you know we had a major problem someplace.

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Where would that information show up? This is this updated or.

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Good question. So this document here is more like a static in pictures if you're putting out a static document.

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But we do have on the finance page and we do have the transparency portal which that is if you go under finance and then the adopted by annual budget the third link down.

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And then if in the middle there's that town of y'all feel transparency portal it's an italics.

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This is where it kind of shows a little bit more of the live data so I would say if you're curious about.

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The live numbers and how actual to budgets are looking this is the best place to go or every month when we publish our monthly financial reports.

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They're they're consent calendar items that they come out every month or so that also it compares budget to actual.

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And then if you have any maybe if you have any more specific questions then that you can feel free to give us a call.

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Thank you very much and my favorite is always watching the TOT reports come out they come out every month as far as the greater than 70% so if you if you only have one thing you want to look at that's where I tip you off go look at that so anyway.

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Any questions from the council before I go to public we're just going to have like a this is a good time to ask Kyle is here he'll tell you anything you want to know about the budget so.

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Council any questions first question so Kyle we we do get the TOT as council members.

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Is it where would you find that on the web if you wanted to see that monthly report that shows the occupancy and the rates and all that.

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I think Hillary read your mind there she was already going there so if you go to departments and then finance.

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And then the financial reports.

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And then click on transparency and occupancy tax information and then that link in the middle shows the most recent that was reported because of the timing I always like to specify it says collections through May twenty twenty six.

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But I was reported July fourth so that is the most recent report and then if you click on that go ahead and open it up.

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It'll show you.

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And this is kind of the quick summary that gives most of the information you would want in one snapshot and then there's 15 pages of detail with a lot of historic information.

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Monthly information so I think right now read about 92% of our collected expected revenue and that's you know we're still waiting for June to finalize so we'll see how the year ends but it's looking pretty good looking pretty good.

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You and I do an outstanding job on this so no question.

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And one of my struggles is there so much information and we've talked a little bit in the past and I've raised this about I don't really like this expression but a dashboard.

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Is that something that we could still think about.

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The trick being the key what are the key indicators you want to look at and then trying to get them into a meaningful format.

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Definitely.

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It might be helpful to have and even then it could let people know where to go to read more but people we're all in this mode of.

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Very short attention spans.

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Understood yeah there is internal conversation about that and we have talked about how most of the information that we think.

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The public is interested in would either be in our monthly financial report or this or this TOT report so we've talked a little bit about how maybe we can.

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You know revamp those a little bit and we've we kind of are making some changes to those and we've already made some changes to add little summary tables on the monthly financial report but obviously.

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More ideas the better so let's even have a tab somewhere easy you know that you could just click on when you first go into the budget or the finances anyway.

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Thank you.

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You got to do it an outstanding job on monitoring all this so thank you.

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Do have a monthly financial report that you could pull up easily just to kind of because this is what we do put on our consent calendar is just about once a month.

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I'm going to go to department.

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And then go to, show people what that looks like and where it can be found, both online and in our consent calendars.

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Go to the financial reports there again, and then scroll down to monthly financial reports.

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And then you'll see the most recent that have been approved through the consent calendar.

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So if you go ahead and open up the May 2026.

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So these are what the consent calendar items look like.

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We'll be presenting the preliminary June report at the next council meeting.

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So this is the most recent one.

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So you'll see, we kind of, this is the new table that I was thinking about.

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We added maybe three or four months ago or so.

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It's a snapshot of where we are with the revenues.

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And then we have a similar table on the second page for the expenditures.

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So this is where, if you're looking for any snapshot type information in terms of budget to actual.

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I do, I do think this is the best place to go.

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To speak to where one would find them within the agenda packet that can be found on the homepage as well.

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If you visit the view agendas in minutes.

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And within this page, you can see archived meetings here.

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I believe the last one was probably brought forth on June 2nd.

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And here.

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That date may be wrong.

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Kyle, can you.

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June 2nd would have been too early.

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Sorry, it would have been the second meeting in June.

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Let's go with the regular meeting here.

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And those reports are found within the consent calendar here item eight.

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Receive and file the May 2026 monthly financial report.

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And it is, it is great to see where it is on the, on the, the meetings here.

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I do think because we don't know exactly when they're reported.

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If you just go to the, I think it is best to just go to the finance page.

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Because it'll show the most recent one here.

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So that may be the, that may be the best way to find it.

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Okay, great.

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All right, public, this is your time to come up and ask Kyle or staff.

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Any question you've been wondering about the budget.

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How to find something.

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Something's updated.

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Food call.

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Nobody wants to go up.

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That's going to be up.

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We have a staff who would like to make a comment.

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Yes.

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I just see a very important person with one additional comment that I know Kyle is going to talk about.

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For people who do want to know more analog mechanism.

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There is a paper copy of the budget of physical copy at both town hall and at the library and speaking to the snapshot view.

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There is, if you look at the wall over there, there is the budget in brief, which is quick charts of general fund and utility fund revenues and expenditures for more condensed view.

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Thank you.

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Just kind of wrap.

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I think Yampil has been very lucky for a long time.

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It's a pretty, one thing we are is pretty physically conservative around here.

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Our TOT and sales tax is doing well and continues to do well.

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So, I think that one thing that is, I'm always kind of proud to tell people that we don't have some of the problems that I hear other people have.

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I'm very happy about that.

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So, but that now I am going to any other council final comments.

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I'm going to move on to our second staff presentation.

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We are going to receive and file.

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We see a presentation from the staff regarding the state of housing in Yampil.

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And we have our director of planning and building area.

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And I think Drocko is taken to chair with a single maul.

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I think that we all have seen go on yourself.

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Before I end the because the chair just considered a couple hundred minutes,

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I am starting to want to come into the attendance.

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It is in this slide as you can imagine our room, theLC file here.

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of discussions. The Council has requested in response to questions that came up during the

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Commons process. Tonight's session is focused on housing. Our goal tonight is to provide

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information and maybe in some instances educate the community and maybe Council, although you're

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pretty familiar with this subject matter. On housing conditions in the community, affordability,

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state laws, state legislation, how the town is required to carry out its planning for housing,

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meeting housing needs, what the requirements of those laws are, our production. I know I'm stealing

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your intro slide here. It's our anyway. We're going to give an overview and provide some information

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with the goal of helping again inform and educate the community on what we do and what conditions are

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and hopefully engage in a discussion and some questions and answers both with Council and anyone

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here tonight who's interested in learning more or asking more detailed questions than we've given

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in the presentation. So with that, I'll stop stealing Aaron Show and turn it over to Director Hiccup.

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Thank you, Ken and Mayor and Council. So housing presentation, you'd have to bear with me. We have a lot

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to get through here. There we go. So as can alluded to, this presentation is going to cover existing

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housing stock and affordability, state requirements for housing affordability, housing sites and housing

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production, the options for meeting housing needs and consequences for noncompliance.

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I think I have too many systems going over here between the Zoom. So if you could just say next slide,

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I'll advance them for you. Next slide, please. Okay, key takeaways from the presentation. The town is

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currently not on pace to meet it's very low. Income rena housing obligation, less than 10% of

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towns housing existing housing is affordable, the moderate and lower income households. The town is at risk of

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losing approximately 20% of its existing affordable housing stock in the next 10 years. The majority of our local

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workforce needs housing that is affordable to moderate and lower incomes. If approved and anticipated projects

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come to fruition, the town will likely need to identify new housing sites to meet future rena needs and future

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housing element cycles. There are limited housing sites available for meeting current and future

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housing needs. Next slide, please. Okay, existing housing stock and affordability. Next slide, please.

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Okay, so currently there are approximately 1,372 existing housing units in the town and

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yant bill. You can see here that a majority of those are single family homes followed by mobile homes,

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then town homes, then almost equal number of multi-family 2 to 4 units and multi-family

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5 units or more. Next slide, please. So housing costs. The median housing costs for single family

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home in yant bill is approximately 1.35 to 1.7 million dollars and annual income required to afford a

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single family home in that price range is roughly 365 to $515,000. The median cost to rent an apartment in

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yant bill, a 1 bedroom range is roughly 2300 to 3,000 per month to bedroom 4,000 to 6,000 per month.

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And the annual income required for those apartments for a 1 bedroom range is 85,000 to 108,000

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or for a 2 bedroom 151 to $2,000 to $2,000 a year. Next slide, please.

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So the affordability of the existing housing stock of those housing units, 100 of those,

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or approximately 7% are de-districted to be affordable to be affordable to moderate and lower

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income households. And you can see that break down there. Only 13 of those are very low and the rest are

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between low and moderate. And these affordable units are monitored by housing authority for compliance with

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these affordability standards. And they are also either owned or operated largely by non-profits,

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including Napa Valley community housing and Burbank housing. Next slide, please.

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I'm sorry, Mayor. Quick question, Mayor. Just in that slide. So when we talk about the 100,

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those are de-districted. They're either owner occupied or rental. That's the 100 in the community.

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That's correct. All right. Thank you. And so this is just a few photos of what some of

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the affordable housing looks like in town. You see the Hopper Creek apartments, a Rio Grande,

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in the Mount Avenue of Cottages, and then Washington Park. Next slide, please.

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This shows the location of the Affordable Units in town. You can see 24 down there Hopper Creek and then

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moving forward and going up. Interesting distribution, going kind of north the south there.

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Town Hall being the star in the middle. Next slide, please.

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Mayor, really quickly. When we're looking at those two neighborhoods, I know it's a few of the town,

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but on the north end, those are homes in the Washington Park, Washington's

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estates or community. Yeah, that's right. And there's also a hard to tell,

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hard to read from here, but the Mount Avenue Cottages are on there. Right. So that's the neighborhood

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in the north end. Mount Avenue, the Cottages, and in Washington Park, in Washington Square. Yeah.

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And then on the part near the Y, that is the Oak Circle neighborhood. Right. That's correct.

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Where some of those homes were basically built years ago as south, there were self-help construction,

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but it's that neighborhood behind Ranch Market. You got it.

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And then all the ones on yout to are on there. Because it's quite a few on yout. Yes.

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So the Cluster and Washington Park, and I don't know the history, but I'm sure Eric and Pam do,

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that must have been the developer was required to make those before I were there or de-restricted

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as part of the development. I would assume so, yes. Okay. Next slide, please.

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So affordable units at risk of converting to market rates. So of those 100 de-restricted

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approximately 20% of those units are going to be potentially lost in the next 10 years,

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meaning they're affordable agreements are going to expire. And so, what staff can do is reach out to

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the owners of those and have conversations with them about what their plans are. Ultimately,

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you know, it's up to the owners to decide what they want to do. An example of that is we did reach out

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to Napa Valley Community Housing, who owns the Mount Avenue Cottages last fall sat down and met with

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them. Their agreement is expiring next year. And they indicated that they are planning on,

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even though it's expiring, planning on leaving those units as affordable units. They also potentially

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expressed interest in adding additional units onto the site as well. So we'll see what happens with that.

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Next slide, please. So now we're moving on to state requirements for housing affordability.

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So, as we all know, California faces severe and persistent housing shortage driven by decades of

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restrict of zoning policies, high construction costs, and limited housing production,

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the state has experienced skyrocketing home prices and rents that have made housing

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unavortable for millions of residents across all income levels. The supply of housing and

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California is not kept up with demand, especially for those affordable units as housing prices continue to

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rise. And over the past 10 years, the state legislature has passed more than 200 laws of

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addressing various aspects of this housing challenge. New state laws have made it harder for cities

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to restrict housing development. Next slide, please. So legislative actions to simulate housing

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production. The housing crisis act of 2019 is a big one and that prevents cities from reducing

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intensity of housing development on land where housing is allowed and from opposing and forcing

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new subjective design standards after January 1, 2020. And this is really known as the known

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net loss rule. So essentially if you have a residential zone property, you can't, if you convert

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that to or rezone that to a commercial use, you have to find another equal parcel that will

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can accommodate the same density of that residential parcel and up zone it. Certain housing projects

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may be built by right in some locations without discretionary approval. So that's multi-family or certain

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mixies housing projects consistent with objective design standards. Don't require a use permit

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and that's essentially SB-35. And then some residential development is allowed in non-resident

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residential zoning districts and certain circumstances. That would be a vacant commercial

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properties along certain court, transportation corridors and things like that. That also lots of

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forming the California Environmental Quality Act, to release timelines for housing projects. And

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they've also added numerous exemptions for infill housing with those as well, expediting project

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approvals and permitting through streamlined reviews. And this essentially places limits on how long we

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have the review review and issue building permits for various housing projects including ADUs.

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And allowing diverse housing solutions like increasing housing density through multi-family housing

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and fill development near transit and streamlining accessory dwelling unit approvals.

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So in summary, this is what the slide has really shown. The state has slowly been taken away

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local control over housing project year after year after year.

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And also our town attorney keeps this updated. There are so many of these housing laws

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that are coming that we as council get regular updates about this and we have lots of questions

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and you're absolutely right. There's a lot less local control that we used to have.

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And it's hard. It's hard for us. I'm sure it's hard for the public to say, well, how come this

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big thing is coming in and it's looking right in my window and I can't do anything about it.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's been nonstop. Right. Thank you. So local planning housing elements. So under

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California State Library, City and County must admit.

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Dopting maintain a housing element is one of the required elements of its general plan, and that

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housing element serves as the community's long-term strategy for meeting existing projected

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housing needs for all income levels. Unlike other general plan elements, it must be adopted

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on a status-fabler schedule and reviewed for compliance by HCD. Next slide, please.

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I just want to make another comment to, because this is your first housing element here in

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Yonfil, right here, and it's that you worked on? No, I didn't, that was done for it.

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It was, oh, you didn't look down. It's in the past, you know, it's been a fairly easy process. It's been

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a template. We have experts that kind of help, then it goes off to the state and using a few weeks

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it's certified. This last housing element went on for months and months. We had extra consultants,

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and it was very, very difficult to pass it. So things have changed up there. Again, if you have

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and you want to comment, I was actually here. And an interim capacity is planning director at the time,

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and your observation is correct, and it's not just Yonfil, it's gotten harder for it. It's all cities.

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HCD has gotten good at learning the practices that various cities have used throughout California to

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avoid meeting its housing needs or addressing them in compliance with state law. So HCD is good at

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kind of sniffing out, you know, half-bake efforts, and I'm not saying that's what happened here in

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Yonfil. I'm just trying to point out that HCD has gotten a lot tougher and a lot smarter on looking at housing

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elements and making sure each city and county is meeting, you know, housing element law. And so it doesn't

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surprise me when I left in my interim capacity, we were on track. At HCD, instead of if you do,

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you know what you're showing us you're going to do, we'll certify your element. I came back a year later

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and it was a little surprise to find there was more discussion after they told you you were going to

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get certified. They decided there were some more things, you know, the town you did do. And fortunately,

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you know, we were able to do that and get certification, but at your point of it's a hard process with HCD,

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and my point of HCD is getting tougher in their review of cities, you know, up and down California,

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it is a fair one in a ballot one. Yeah, I just add that HCD was previously a fairly passive agency

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and that's changed. So over the last five years in particular with all the state laws that have

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removed a lot of the discretion and controlled the locals used to enjoy has been taken away.

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And at the same time, they have increased enforcement ability and enforcement powers for HCD.

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So HCD really looks at the housing element now to make sure that you're implementing the

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opportunity sites and that the housing of the different income levels is actually going in.

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So in the last cycle, for example, there were several opportunity sites that have been included in previous

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cycles in HCD force the town to take them out and identify new sites. Aaron's going to talk about that

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in a moment, so I won't take the wind out of his presentation, but they are taking a very close look at

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everything from the very small jurisdictions to very large jurisdictions, and then also doing mid-cycle reviews

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and initiating enforcement when that happens. Can you talk briefly about some of that enforcement? It's been

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pretty hot and heavy in the news in the last few weeks. So yeah, I assume they're coming out.

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Yeah, there's a few slides on that at the end here too. But fines and then they can also de-certify

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your housing element. And if that happens, it triggers a series of state laws that allowed

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developers to come in without any town input at all. So Gary, how many I was reading an article in the

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Chronicle in the about the Bay Area, and I think one city had its housing element either de-certified or not

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certified. Out of the 370 cities, how many would you say of either had their housing element de-certified

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or not certified at all? Just as a testament? Well, I can't track, I don't know. Yeah, and I'd be hesitant

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to to guess to make that. What I will say is that the housing element cycles are there's different regions

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of the state that are on different cycles, so that HCD is not reviewing all 483 cities and 58 counties at

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the same time. So Northern California and the Bay Area counties are on one particular cycle that happens.

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They changed the deadlines and the state law for how that happens. So this last cycle

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cities submitted to HCD on time, but HCD had too many to review within the deadline for adopting. So it

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put a lot of local jurisdictions in a tough spot because if you don't have an adopted housing element

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then it's not substantial compliance and then all of the other laws are triggered, but HCD needs

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to sign off first. And so a lot of jurisdictions adopted before HCD took formal action on their housing

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elements and then HCD finally did review after the fact and had revisions and had to come back. And so

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there was this period of questionable compliance. Okay, next slide, you're ready there. So key components

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of the housing element. That first housing needs assessment which analyzes the existing and projected

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housing needs based on population household employment and demographic trends. Second, the housing

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inventory and conditions evaluate the communities existing housing stock including age, affordability,

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vacancy rates, special housing needs. Third is the sites inventory in which is adequate sites analysis

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and that is to demonstrate that sufficient land is available with appropriate zoning and development

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capacity to accommodate the jurisdiction share of its rena for all income levels, which is important to

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note. Conservation and preservation include strategies to preserve affordable housing stock,

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prevent displacement where appropriate maintain the existing housing stock, then there are the programs

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and policies which establish specific actions the jurisdiction will undertake to facilitate housing

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production, preserve existing housing, remove barriers and promote fair housing. And so I'll just point

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out so one of the goal in the housing element goal, H3, the goal is a variety of housing types. It means

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provide for a variety of housing types. The policy 3.3 associated with that goal is to promote the

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development of multi-family housing. And then program 22, or part of it, under that policy 3.3 is the

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town will review and revise the zoning ordinance to ensure compliance with state law. So that's kind of an

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example of the structure on how that's laid out. And then finally implementation and monitoring and that's

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committing to measurable programs of timelines and responsible parties and report annually on implementation

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to HCD. Next slide, please. So rena, the regional housing needs allocation is the process,

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is California's method for determining how much housing is needed statewide and assigning their

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responsibility for planning that housing among the cities and counties, the counties, the processes

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intended that every community plans for its fair share of housing that all income levels and support

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statewide housing goals. So HCD determines the total number of housing units needed for each region

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over that eight-year planning period, which is the housing element cycle, which is based on projected

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population growth, existing housing, overcrowding, cost burdens, vacancy rates, and other housing needs.

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And then the regional cog, which here's a bad association of barrier governments, then allocates

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those housing numbers to the various jurisdictions within that region. Next slide, please.

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So yes, I just noted then every year's ABAG develops a methodology to allocate the region

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housing needs among the local jurisdictions. Each city and county in the barrier receives its allocation

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and for income categories, which is very low, low, moderate, and above moderate. Then each city

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and county must update its housing element to demonstrate it has sufficiently appropriately

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zone land and policies to accommodate that region allocation. And so Rena does not require us to actually

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build or guarantee that housing will be constructed instead of requires that we remove unreasonable barriers

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and maintain adequate zoning capacity and adopt programs that facilitate housing development. However,

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a lack of production can lead HCD to require more aggressive programs. And so then as far as

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compliance and enforcement is concerned, HCD reviews has an element for compliance and jurisdictions

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of outer compliant housing element, based legal challenges, reduced eligibility for certain state

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funding programs and potential enforcement actions under California housing laws. Next slide, please.

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So here's our current Rena allocation. We have 19 very low, 11 low, 12 moderate, and 30 above

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moderate for a total of 72. Next slide, please. So here is the Napa County annual income limits and this

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is effective as of June 1, 2026. And so these are the income limits for those those Rena allocation

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criteria. So very low, low, medium, moderate. So essentially anything under from 80 to 120 falls

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under the moderate, and you can see that is broken up by how many people there are per household. So that

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number does go up depending on how many persons there are per household. Do you know what you're going to

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speak? Can you also address the new extra, the two new extra low income? I'll let Director Hicaca

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address that. I just want to point out so people, you know, understand what this table is showing.

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If we look at the column titled low, which is 80% of median income, and it shows for a single person,

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you are low income. If your annual income is 98,000, you know, 98,000 dollars.

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Night, a year. So we'll just keep that in mind when you hear terms low income very low income. We're not

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talking about households that make 20,000 dollars a year, 10,000 dollars a year. We're talking about

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households that are making 98,000 dollars a year. We're two individuals earning 112,000 or

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considered low. Yes. So I think the mayor was talking about a cutely low and extremely low income categories.

570
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:14,080
And so those are in the renappresses, those are grouped under the low income. So essentially they have a

571
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,120
percentage and they'll divvy that up as far as that's concerned. But there are even lower than low.

572
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:25,760
And those been approved yet by the legislature? Not that I'm aware of. Okay, but they're very likely

573
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:32,000
coming from everything. My kind of here working through. Yeah. Okay, thanks. Okay, next slide please.

574
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:38,880
Okay, so then we just saw what the low, very low with those income levels are. And here's

575
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:45,200
estimated income levels of the local workforce. Obviously these are estimates and there's going to be a range

576
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:52,160
and they're going to vary. But you see hotel needs housekeepers, 45,000 a year, very low hospitality

577
01:11:52,160 --> 01:12:03,520
managers, 87,000, 88,000 low retail sales, 37, very low and so on and so forth. So just gives an example of what

578
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:10,000
our actual needs are for these housing types. Mayor, just I think this is one of them are

579
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:16,960
what is an important one because when you remove the the registered nurse firefighter

580
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:25,440
town staff person, then you're talking about the folks that work in this community that are

581
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:36,240
earning our low or very low income levels. So I see this report was generated from generation housing,

582
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:44,080
which does has done research for this county of Sonoma and recently the Napa County Board of

583
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:52,320
Supervisors hired them to do research for income level for the for the Napa Valley. And generally when we were

584
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:59,120
talking with the comments we were receiving information about Yantville in the greater area

585
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:05,680
that shows that we have people that work here predominantly are on the low to very low income schedule.

586
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:13,760
So there's no surprises or any significant surveys that need to be done of our staff in this town

587
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:19,680
that show that the folks that work here are earning about the same thing that that work in the other

588
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:26,320
hotels and the restaurants all over the valley and it's all and from my perspective and that's

589
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:34,000
being on the council now and 25 30 years ago this council the council's president past have always

590
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:41,600
recognized the fact that we have a responsibility as a partner and the valley to find housing for folks

591
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:48,560
that are working at the low and very low in service community and provide us the services to get us

592
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:57,280
the TOT and sales tax. So it's a recognition for us that this council pass councils or councils in the

593
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:04,000
future we're going to be talking about how we do our best to provide opportunities for people to live and work

594
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:11,200
in the community that are serving us and giving us the good quality of life. But I think that when

595
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,520
shows that every when you look at most of those columns those are the folks that are working here

596
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:23,040
in this community and we need and it's good that we are concerned about it and we certainly don't

597
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:29,760
defer to any other community whether it's Saint Alina or Napo or American Canyon the responsibility of

598
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:36,800
doing our share to provide that housing. So thank you. I just wanted to. Okay next slide please.

599
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:44,560
So housing sites and housing production. Next slide. So we touched on this briefly early under

600
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,680
California state housing element law. The site analysis is one of the mandatory and important components

601
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:55,200
of the housing element. The site's analysis must conventionally demonstrate the HCD that the jurisdiction

602
01:14:55,200 --> 01:15:00,480
has a realistic and legally adequate inventory of land capable of accommodating its arena during the plant.

603
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:12,000
Anym period, not nearly enough on paper, but the sites are likely to develop at the densities in affordability levels assumed in the housing element. Next slide, please.

604
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:25,000
So, a site analysis must identify sufficiently into accommodate the jurisdictions in Tiner, entire arena by income category, including vacant sites and where appropriate non vacant sites, with the realistic development potential.

605
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:40,000
So, site suitability evaluates whether each site is physically suitable for residential development and considers factors such as parcel size, configuration, topography, environmental constraints, availability, utilities and public services, and surrounding land uses.

606
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:48,000
And then appropriate zoning. So, we must demonstrate that the zoning allows for the residential development at the densities sufficient to accommodate the assigned income category.

607
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:58,000
And then finally, analyze the development standards to ensure that they do not unduly constrain housing production. Next slide, please.

608
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:09,000
So, realistic development capacities. So, that's estimating the number of housing units each site can reasonably accommodate using realistic assumptions rather than theoretical maximums.

609
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:22,000
And then consider market conditions, parcel characteristics, existing development and likely project types, and likely hood of development. So, again, demonstrate that the sites are likely to develop during the housing element planning period.

610
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:31,000
So, just putting a site out there and say, no, you know, we're choosing this one if there's no chance it's going to develop isn't isn't going to fly with HD anymore.

611
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:49,000
And for sites with existing uses provide evidence that that redevelopment is feasible, such as underutilized market trends, owner interests, redevelopment history, and additional statutory requirements relying on non-bacon or previously identified sites.

612
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:55,000
And so, there are a few notes here at the bottom. So, the first one is that sites can be used in multiple housing elements.

613
01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:00,000
However, state law and HD do impose increasingly stringent requirements when a site is reused.

614
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:10,000
For instance, when a non-bacon site is used in two consecutive housing elements, the residential development comes by right if a project then contains over 20% affordable units.

615
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,000
So, no use permit, it's permitted by right use.

616
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:20,000
So, let's go through that again, just so everybody's really clear what they're telling us.

617
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:27,000
Yeah, so if you, so we're in the sixth cycle, we have our identified housing sites that we'll go through here at a moment.

618
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:35,000
If those sites were used in the fifth cycle housing element, so now we've used them two times in a row, now moving forward and this is all outlined in the housing element.

619
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:42,000
If a project comes forward that contains 20% affordable units, it's a bi-right project, meaning no use permits are required.

620
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Now, that doesn't exempt it from CEQA, it doesn't exempt a subdivision map from going through a process.

621
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:55,000
But, or design review for that matter, but then the designer view is subject only to objective standard.

622
01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:00,000
So, you're essentially checking a box, just like if a subdivision map is essentially going to be checking a box.

623
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,000
So, it really limits discretion.

624
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:11,000
So, most of the decision making within town hall is really done by your department and it's limited.

625
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,000
That's correct.

626
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,000
Can I ask a question, I'm just with respect to that note.

627
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:23,000
It says non vacant site is used in two consecutive housing elements, so that's a non vacant site.

628
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,000
Right.

629
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,000
So, is it a different rule for undeveloped land?

630
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,000
So, non vacant, so a vineyard is considered non vacant.

631
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,000
So, a vacant site is just an empty site, essentially.

632
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,000
Yes, I'm just asking, is it a different rule, non vacant?

633
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,000
I'm thinking in my mind there's a bill.

634
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,000
It's a little more strict.

635
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,000
So, it's a different rule if it's undeveloped.

636
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:53,000
It's vacant, yes, it's less, they pose less requirements on vacant sites.

637
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,000
Less meaning, you could use a more often.

638
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,000
You can use them in more elements?

639
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,000
Housing elements?

640
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,000
No, so they won't.

641
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,000
Go ahead.

642
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,000
Thank you.

643
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,000
Councilman, try to answer your question.

644
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:13,000
If you have a vacant site that is identified in two consecutive housing elements and doesn't develop,

645
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:18,000
you are not allowed to continue to show that site as meeting, you know,

646
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,000
identifying that as a housing opportunity site in your housing element.

647
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,000
That's what I was asking.

648
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,000
So, it doesn't really matter.

649
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,000
The same rule for vacant and non vacant.

650
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,000
It's a little different.

651
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,000
This has a provision on, you know, by right.

652
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,000
I don't know.

653
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,000
It's just generally, yeah, I'm not trying to, right.

654
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,000
I know this stuff is ridiculously complex, but just in general.

655
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,000
Okay, thank you.

656
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,000
So, then, to that.

657
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,000
So, H.C.D. then closely review sites that have appeared repeatedly without producing housing,

658
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,000
especially for lower income, arena, and often implosive,

659
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,000
imposes requirements upon those sites.

660
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,000
So, if you've re-lit, if you've re-done it and nothing's happening,

661
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,000
they may require that you re-zone it or change the development standards.

662
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,000
Or timelines for alternative site selection.

663
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:08,000
Okay, next slide, please.

664
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,000
So, here are our opportunity sites and the re-enerperjections.

665
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,000
And so, site one, you see is the French laundry garden and in the housing element,

666
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,000
they projected 16 lower income units there on one acre,

667
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,000
only one acre of that site.

668
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,000
And we'll show that in an aerial in a moment.

669
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000
Site two is the Catholic Church site.

670
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000
And I'm that entire site.

671
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,000
They only assumed development on 2.3 acres of it.

672
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,000
However, the housing element assumed 72 units on that.

673
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:42,000
And then the three remaining are all on humble, two of which were part of the mixed-use project

674
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,000
that was approved last year.

675
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,000
And you'll see the only three units assumed for that,

676
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,000
and actually five were approved.

677
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,000
So, that's good.

678
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,000
The third one on humble is the one east of the development there.

679
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,000
It's kind of sandwiched between two homes.

680
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,000
And so, I don't know how likely that is to develop in the near term.

681
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:08,000
But you will notice that the total realistic capacity that we came up with is 93 units,

682
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,000
which is obviously more than the 72.

683
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,000
That's because each CD requires a buffer.

684
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:19,000
So, they give you the 72, but then they just to be sure they want you to show 15 to 20% more

685
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:24,000
typically in your housing element that you're going to button beyond that number.

686
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,000
Next slide, please.

687
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,000
Okay, so here's housing element opportunity site number one,

688
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,000
that we just mentioned, the French laundry garden.

689
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,000
And so, you'll see that the one acre there is kind of fronting Weber

690
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,000
and it's where those existing single-family homes are now.

691
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,000
Next slide.

692
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,000
This is the Catholic Church site.

693
01:21:49,000 --> 01:22:04,000
And of that portion there, only 2.3 acres, 2.3 acres.

694
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,000
Okay.

695
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:14,000
So, yeah, the assumption was that 72 units were going to be produced there on that west side of the property.

696
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,000
I will say, you know, I think we're all aware that the site has been listed for sale,

697
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:24,000
and that includes the entire eastern portion of that site as well,

698
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,000
which is 12.4 acres.

699
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,000
And so we could see a development application for a much larger project

700
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,000
than that was assumed in the housing element.

701
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,000
Most of that's in the 100 year flood plan too.

702
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,000
That is correct.

703
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,000
That entire east of the creek is in the 100 year.

704
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,000
Although the 2.3 acres is probably more developable.

705
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,000
It's easier to develop for sure.

706
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:52,000
I know it's just rumor, but is the rumor true that there have been some actual initial

707
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,000
inquiries about the planning department about developing that site.

708
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,000
We've had some meetings with some prospective buyers of the property, yes.

709
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,000
Because I'm guessing they want to know what they can put on it.

710
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,000
We'll determine what they want to pay for it.

711
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,000
That's correct.

712
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,000
So you are the key to what to put on it.

713
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,000
Next slide please.

714
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,000
So there's a site on humble, as I just mentioned,

715
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,000
the one on the left there is actually two parcels,

716
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,000
and that's where the McSteak, the five unit McSteaks project

717
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,000
was approved last year.

718
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,000
Next slide please.

719
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,000
That is the house, kind of north on Jeff or I guess there's no house.

720
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:35,000
They're the vacant, basically vacant lot on north Jefferson.

721
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:39,000
And it's 0.34 acres and the housing element only assumed one unit on that.

722
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,000
I think that would possibly be a candidate for an up zoning at some point

723
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,000
if that is something we wanted to look into.

724
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,000
I think under the current density range, which is E units an acre,

725
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:55,000
it would allow three units now, but something to consider just given where it is

726
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,000
and its current configuration.

727
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,000
Next slide please.

728
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:08,000
So this slide shows a re-nallocation and then where we're at with building permits

729
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:14,000
issued, which is when you get credit for each CD for arena unit,

730
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,000
when the building permits issued, and then also the approved 16 units

731
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,000
between oak and vine and the humble project.

732
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:26,000
So we're at between those two, we're at 29 of a 72, but I think the thing

733
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,000
to really note here is the very low income.

734
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:34,000
Even if we see other things develop over town, I think the very low

735
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,000
is going to be tough to hit based on where we're at now.

736
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,000
Next slide please.

737
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,000
And so this shows a projection kind of based on what I was just saying.

738
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:50,000
So that shows the 29 units where we're at, and then essentially going back 10 years

739
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:55,000
we've issued three to three and a half building permits a year for new residential units.

740
01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:01,000
So going with that average of three units a year, this shows us up 44 units

741
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,000
at the end of housing element cycle.

742
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,000
So next slide please.

743
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:13,000
So options for meeting housing needs and consequences for non-compliance.

744
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Next slide please.

745
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,000
So other options for accommodating arena obligation include

746
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:25,000
de-districting of existing residential units, and that would require a de-distriction

747
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:32,000
for 55 years, and would require the property owner be willing to do so.

748
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,000
Obviously annual reporting and compliance monitoring by the housing authority.

749
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:42,000
And then only can't count towards 25% of our overall read and number.

750
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Increase ADU production still requires a willing property owner and property owner

751
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,000
investment.

752
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,000
And another issue here in town is that some properties may be constrained

753
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,000
to do a smaller lot size, limiting detached ADUs.

754
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:00,000
And so if those folks were interested, it would potentially require interior conversion

755
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,000
space or potentially adding a second story.

756
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,000
And then obviously rezoning.

757
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:10,000
So rezoning, making their underutilized parcels to allow for increased densities,

758
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,000
or rezoning on residential properties for residential uses.

759
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,000
And as we've noted, there are limited numbers of larger vacant and

760
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,000
or underutilized properties in town.

761
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,000
Next slide please.

762
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:27,000
So these are the sites we could potentially depending on how things go,

763
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:33,000
consider in the next housing element cycle, to conclude to use this opportunity site.

764
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,000
So again, there's the eastern portion of the Catholic Church site.

765
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:41,000
You know, we don't know exactly what's going to happen there if nothing in

766
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,000
that's happening.

767
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,000
That's going to potentially be an option.

768
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,000
There's that.

769
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,000
The 1.5 acre site there.

770
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,000
Just east of Hotel Yachtville.

771
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,000
And that's currently some single family residential.

772
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,000
There's one house on it.

773
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,000
It is.

774
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,000
The properties heavily constrained you to access.

775
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:03,000
It's got a very narrow entrance point.

776
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:10,000
And apparently there's no easement out back into the mobile home park for EVA access.

777
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,000
So constrained, say the least.

778
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,000
Next slide please.

779
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,000
I think we all know this one.

780
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:27,000
So this is the parks and play fields portion of the Yachtville common site.

781
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,000
Next slide please.

782
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:35,000
And this is the agricultural parcel on the northeast side of town.

783
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,000
Which is obviously 32.5 acres.

784
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,000
Yeah, you know, if we ended up deciding to use part of that, we I don't think we would

785
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,000
need to use the whole thing.

786
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:48,000
But just pointed out that that's the size of the parcel.

787
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,000
Next slide please.

788
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:57,000
So consequences to not meet in state requirements is very touched on earlier.

789
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:02,000
So identifying additional housing sites, state required general plan or zoning amendments to

790
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:07,000
additional housing sites into require amendments to the town zoning standards to increase residential

791
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:11,000
densities and development potential for properties.

792
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,000
De-certification of the housing element.

793
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,000
Housing element is de-certified by each CD.

794
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,000
Qualifying housing development to be be approved even if they don't comply with general plan or zoning regulations.

795
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,000
This is which known as the Builders remedy.

796
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:31,000
So in effect the state removes some local control over land use as a consequence of the city's noncompliance.

797
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:37,000
One thing to note is that those Builders remedy projects do require at least 20% of the units be for lower income households.

798
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:41,000
And sequit does still apply to those projects as well.

799
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,000
Another potential consequences of the last state funding opportunities.

800
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,000
And so that is an inability to obtain state funding under certain programs.

801
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:56,000
Those are typically housing and infrastructure related funding programs that require a compliant housing element to be qualified for.

802
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,000
And then finally a litigation.

803
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:03,000
And this is initiated by the Attorney General to compel compliance and or levy fines.

804
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:10,000
The court may suspend a town's authority to issue building permits or grant zoning changes of areas or subdivision map approvals.

805
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:14,000
And it's interesting we started preparing this before last week.

806
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,000
And I think is the mayor just mentioned the Attorney General exercise this power.

807
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,000
I believe last week.

808
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Bringing litigation against five jurisdictions here in the state.

809
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,000
Next slide please.

810
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:36,000
So the conclusions that we briefly touched on earlier is that we're not currently on pace to meet our low income housing obligations.

811
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,000
Less than 10% of the town's existing housing is affordable to moderate and lower income households.

812
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:47,000
The town is at risk of losing 20% of its existing affordable housing stock in the next 10 years.

813
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:53,000
The majority of our local workforce needs housing that is affordable to moderate and low incomes.

814
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,000
And if approved in anticipated projects, do you come to fruition?

815
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:01,000
The town will likely need to identify new housing sites for meeting a future arena.

816
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,000
And there are limited housing sites available for meeting current and future housing names. And that concludes the presentation and would be happy to answer any questions and may have.

817
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:16,000
Okay, first I'll see if the council have any questions, any questions?

818
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,000
Do I have to push my button?

819
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,000
No, I'll get to you. You go first and then I'll go.

820
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,000
I just want to go back to that last slide.

821
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:36,000
The last statement there, there are limited housing sites available for meeting current and future housing needs.

822
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:41,000
So, we get a rena allowance every eight years.

823
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:52,000
What happens say in two or three cycles when there are no within town limits sites is then there a,

824
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,000
I don't know, do they give up or do we give up?

825
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,000
No, it's hard to say and it really, there are a lot of things that will depend.

826
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:10,000
But I think at some point we could become built out and I believe they've designated a few jurisdictions in the state as essentially being built out.

827
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:15,000
But you never know, I think could just say, you got to go up, you know, increased density.

828
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:20,000
So, yeah, it's, it's really hard to predict where it'll be that far into the future.

829
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:30,000
So, in the other slide that showed the trajectory of how many,

830
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,000
what is it?

831
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,000
It's the actual and projected residential growth.

832
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:46,000
It shows our allotment is 72 and our actual projected is 44 at this point.

833
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:52,000
And you mentioned a couple times that we're not on track to meet our very low,

834
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,000
but we're not on track to meet any of the categories basically, right?

835
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,000
That's very based on historical trends.

836
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:06,000
So, we would, we would need housing at all levels to make our rena numbers.

837
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:15,000
And then when you were talking about the Catholic Church property that was just resumed in the front,

838
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:26,000
along Washington Street and that small piece was the one that you were estimating there would be 72 units on that side.

839
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,000
That's what it says in the housing element.

840
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:40,000
But okay, so if there were 72 units that were deemed to be part of the rena configuration,

841
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:48,000
how many regular units would then be attributed to that small piece?

842
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,000
Do you understand what?

843
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:55,000
So, they're not just built, even if it's an affordable housing developer,

844
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,000
which I don't think is who's sniffing around right now.

845
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:10,000
So, if it were somebody who was a for profit builder, they would would be building other types of housing,

846
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:14,000
besides the low income or moderate income housing.

847
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:20,000
Yeah, so, I mean, given that I would say, you know, they'll probably go with the 20% to go with the buy right,

848
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,000
so 20% of the 72, whatever that number is.

849
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:29,000
So, we wouldn't get the full 72 out of that site?

850
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,000
No.

851
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,000
Not for affordable.

852
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,000
That'd be 20% of 72's 14 units.

853
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:42,000
So, 14 of the 72 would likely be affordable.

854
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,000
Okay, so, I don't know if that's what you mean.

855
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,000
We wouldn't meet our rena numbers with that problem.

856
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:51,000
No, but I will say that the way the church is selling that property,

857
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,000
it's likely not going to be the front portion that's going to develop a housing.

858
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,000
It's going to be, it's going to be that eastern portion and the floodplain,

859
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,000
and they're going to have to figure out those environmental constraints.

860
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,000
Right.

861
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:08,000
So, I wouldn't anticipate going forward that that housing is going to be the way the housing element thought it would be.

862
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,000
It's going to be on the eastern portion of much larger parcel.

863
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:17,000
So, if it is the larger parcel and they do figure out the flooding issue.

864
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:18,000
Yeah.

865
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:25,000
What would the maximum number of houses be considering 20% affordable?

866
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,000
So, good question.

867
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:30,000
So, that site's 12.44 acres.

868
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,000
What the maximum is.

869
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,000
So, the allowed density, there's 10 to 20 units in acre.

870
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,000
10 units in acre would be 124 units.

871
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,000
So, double that, 2048 would be the max allowed.

872
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:50,000
But based on the lower number, let's say they go with the minimum allowed.

873
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,000
Again, 124 units.

874
01:34:53,000 --> 01:35:01,000
But they did just the 15% which is the inclusion area requirement, 15% that would be 19 affordable units.

875
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,000
So, in addition to the 120.

876
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,000
No, it would just be of that 120.

877
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,000
That would be included.

878
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,000
Correct.

879
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:14,000
And if they did the 20% to kick a net buy rate provision, that would be 25 units.

880
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:19,000
And then our inclusion area breaks up how those are distributed differently between ownership and rental units.

881
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,000
So, the numbers are a little bit different.

882
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:27,000
But, essentially, you know, under, let's say, let's go with the 15, the conservative approach.

883
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:32,000
Under an ownership model, it would be 6 very low, 7 low, 6 moderate.

884
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,000
And if they were rental, it would be 9 very low and 10 low.

885
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:43,000
And it seems like the council's previous to us had instigated this realization,

886
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,000
which we are having now with the Washington Square properties,

887
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:54,000
where for our investment in low cost housing,

888
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,000
it's better for a rental unit versus an ownership unit,

889
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:07,000
because those tend to fall out and we've lost the whole investment or the realization of that unit,

890
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,000
because someone now owns it.

891
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:21,000
So, would we change our requirement to be only rental units in order to make sure they were in perpetuity?

892
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:26,000
So, I mean, that would be something we consider for housing that,

893
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:31,000
you know, we contribute money to or units that we buy or things like that,

894
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,000
but that wouldn't really apply to the Catholic Church site.

895
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,000
Okay.

896
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,000
Thank you.

897
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,000
Thank you.

898
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,000
Well, one comment I would like to make about the 20% that's falling off,

899
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,000
and Washington Park where I think the developer probably paid to build those.

900
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:50,000
We have spoken about how housing can create wealth for people.

901
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:55,000
And there are people in Washington Park, I don't know how long the D restriction was 20,

902
01:36:55,000 --> 01:37:01,000
25 years, who have been there now 20 or 25 years, and can sell the house and retire.

903
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:08,000
And it is what I've heard council members speak about, which is a step to help people develop wealth.

904
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:14,000
So, I'm not personally thinking losing D restricted housing in and in and of itself is such a bad thing.

905
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:19,000
But my main question is, how do we, I gave a little thought to how we compare to other jurisdictions?

906
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:24,000
And I mentioned this to you, there was an article in the Chronicle, and I'll be happy to share it with anybody.

907
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:30,000
As of the end of 2025, what all the Bay Area cities, how far they were on their housing elements,

908
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:36,000
and how many units have been constructed, and it will vary between 4% and 7%.

909
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,000
Nobody was over 7%.

910
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:43,000
So, if you look at, and again, I'm all for housing.

911
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:49,000
I just feel facts are good, and realism is good, and panic is not good.

912
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:59,000
If you include what out of the 70 units, if you include what we've built, we're at about 20% I think of our housing element,

913
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:04,000
and if you include what's been approved, like Oconvine, then we're at almost 40%.

914
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:09,000
And we still have, I mean, so we have a ways to go.

915
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:14,000
So, the rest, just to recap, the rest of the Bay Area, and they, I don't have the facts,

916
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,000
or they're in this part of the Bay Area.

917
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:22,000
But the rest of the Bay Area has accomplished between 4% and 7%.

918
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:28,000
And we have either approved or actually built almost 40% of our housing element.

919
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:32,000
So, and I think the low income is really going to be a problem.

920
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:37,000
No question about that, but we have made significant progress.

921
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:40,000
And we have no control if you approve a development.

922
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:46,000
People are looking for financing, trying to decide, you know, like Oconvine, we can't necessarily predict,

923
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:51,000
but we have actually approved or built 40% of our housing element.

924
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:56,000
And it's start, yeah, so anyway, that's just something to keep in mind.

925
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:01,000
Although the low income is really important, and it could be the real problem.

926
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:11,000
I think that's a fair point, council membership, but I think the question for the community and council to consider is,

927
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:16,000
you know, what is the tolerance or acceptance of having, you know,

928
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:24,000
HCD directing, you know, us to promote, you know, the opportunity for higher density housing if we're not producing,

929
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,000
which I presume in these other communities is what's happening.

930
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:35,000
So, we say, hey, we're doing, you know, better than a lot of communities, we've hit 10% of our need.

931
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:43,000
HCD may respond, I'm speculating here, that's great, Godville, but you're not, you know, we're not meeting enough housing.

932
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:54,000
So, you know, where you have two stories owning now, maybe we need to have three stories owning to help incentivize and increase the development potential and feasibility of sites.

933
01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:02,000
That may not necessarily happen here, but just so everybody understands why we may be doing better than most or the same as most.

934
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:09,000
Everybody else is, you know, having those conversations or we'll be having those conversations with HCD on, you know,

935
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:14,000
do we make processes more streamlined? Do we increase densities, do increase building heights?

936
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:23,000
And so that's the consideration and risk, you know, and sitting back and relaxing, and I know you're not suggesting that we sit back and relax.

937
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,000
But I just want to make that point clear.

938
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Well, and I completely understand that, and I'd mention this to you.

939
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:35,000
I had the chance at one point to be the regulatory affairs officer for C&H Sugar and Crocodone.

940
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:48,000
So, it dealt a lot with agencies, and one of my comments to you is, and they have a lot of discretion as to when they put you in the non-performing box or whatever.

941
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,000
None of my CNH was never in that box.

942
01:40:52,000 --> 01:41:03,000
But, you know, I just, in terms of talking to the regulators, as Eric mentioned, we bought an entire site and paid for it ourselves with the intention of putting up housing,

943
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:08,000
affordable housing, which I am still a proponent that that happens.

944
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:17,000
I would think that would show to HCD that we are not really foot dragging, because that's a pretty extraordinary thing to have done in my opinion.

945
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:22,000
So we're obviously not a community that's saying, no, no, no, we don't want to invest, no, no, no, no.

946
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:29,000
And there are a number of communities that have said that, basically, and those are the ones who are de-certified and getting sued and fined and whatnot.

947
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,000
So I just, I wanted to add that.

948
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:35,000
I feel like, you know, Bill has been a good citizen in this regard.

949
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,000
I think that's a fair comment.

950
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:42,000
It absolutely, if we can, those discussions, you know, we would point to those kind of things.

951
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,000
Councilmember Knight.

952
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:46,000
Thank you, Mayor.

953
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:54,000
I, I, I understand the thing, I think, just with HCD, which concerns me is that I've never been able to fully understand why.

954
01:41:54,000 --> 01:42:00,000
They're concerned with the, with the, of moderate development, because in our community.

955
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:06,000
People are going to build and those prices are, are not, are not at any point regulated.

956
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:10,000
So I, at some point when we talk about how, how many, how many of our,

957
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:14,000
of our reading numbers we've reached when we, we include above moderate.

958
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,000
I don't, I'm not sure.

959
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:20,000
I think our focus really needs to be on what we're doing.

960
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,000
You know, for moderate lower, very low.

961
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:32,000
And I think our community and the councils in the past have always recognized the importance of our inclusionary policy was 15% affordable.

962
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:38,000
It was, we don't want the money, because we know a little bit of money buys nothing in the town where

963
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:44,000
homes and lot parcels cost hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars.

964
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:51,000
We've, we've asked or told builders that to get some of the benefits of the development here in town.

965
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,000
They have to build.

966
01:42:52,000 --> 01:43:04,000
So, it seems to me, you know, and so we have a 15% affordability requirement or a 15% in our inclusionary, which was above other many other communities in the past.

967
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:12,000
I think what we're expecting to see is that for five more percent, we're going to see builders that are going to go to that 20%.

968
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:22,000
Because then they're going to, they're going to ratchet up and basically say, you need to approve this because we've met, we've met the state goals.

969
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:30,000
The, the, we may have, like you said, some sequo or, or parcel, you know,

970
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:48,000
sequo review of things, but they're pretty much going to build and exceed what we had typically in the past reviewed and approved through zoning and design review board and all those, those, those details will be gone in the future.

971
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:59,000
Unless we're continue to do our best to provide and make efforts to provide housing, but I think most developers are going to go to the point where it's

972
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:11,000
You know, they can build a few more affordable and get a lot more control over the project that what they want to build and I will see that here, we'll see it all over the valley, I think so.

973
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:17,000
Well, just following on all over the valley, I just really wanted to also bring up the Ag Preserve.

974
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:25,000
I think that's what, you know, a lot of the cities that we have here in half a valley, why they're challenged because we have the Ag Preserve.

975
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:33,000
I love the Ag Preserve, we want to support the Ag Preserve, but it really constrains us in terms of what the state wants us to build.

976
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:40,000
And even the county, they get their A bag numbers two and their rena number, I mean their rena numbers from A bag.

977
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:51,000
So they are also very challenged, it actually says and, you know, the, the last update on the voter approval of the Ag Preserve that.

978
01:44:51,000 --> 01:45:00,000
The state wouldn't allow it to go through unless they put the language in in the very last line that, you know, except for affordable housing.

979
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,000
So, you know, the state expects them to still build out there. Right now, they've been able to do a lot of horse trading, so they didn't have to.

980
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:17,000
And city, Napa, taking a lot of the numbers and, you know, the Costco area and all that kind of played into that.

981
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:24,000
But, you know, that's coming into the future. And it's, you know, it's something that we all have to kind of keep in mind too.

982
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:31,000
And the challenge is this we face here in the valley with this wonderful act reserve that we have in place that's our livelihood.

983
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:38,000
So, it's a very interesting discussion how this all kind of plays in.

984
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:48,000
And the, you know, in the policies that, you know, we have to make as a council to, you know, abide by the rules that kind of come down from the state with no funding.

985
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:53,000
Just want to say that too, everybody. So, I'm going to let the public, I'm sure the public has lots of questions.

986
01:45:53,000 --> 01:46:00,000
Just go ahead. Just one, one note that I think is all, I think it's kind of something that's out there.

987
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:07,000
We don't want to talk about it, but our 32 acres on the north end of town are not in the ag preserve and tan of that.

988
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:20,000
I think it kind of, tan of that acres are in the floodplain on the, on the east side, but there's over 20 acres of land, not protected by the ag preserve and.

989
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:27,000
And zone agriculture and a community that's surrounded by the ag preserve. So, I don't know, I think some day.

990
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:34,000
We, you know, we may, there may be a reckoning of that with HCD.

991
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:42,000
But who knows? I mean, right now we've been fortunate to be able to preserve that and it's privately owned, it's legal not informing.

992
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:53,000
Well, we have it's own agricultural, and it's probably owned by a private, it's privately owned, but someday we may find some challenges to that.

993
01:46:53,000 --> 01:47:04,000
I've talked to old county supervisors and when Yonfield was formed, it was literally a paper map on the wall and they got a big Sharpie out and drew a line and this was Yonfield.

994
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:16,000
For people say that, you know, that was never supposed to be in Yonfield. So, I don't know, that will be a discussion for another day and people argue over the thickness of the Sharpie line that was used to draw the jurisdiction.

995
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:20,000
So, yeah, more conversations later on. Yes, council, tell manager.

996
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:32,000
Thank you, Mayor, before you open it up for public comment. I didn't want to let council member trip in the public. No, I misspoke about the difference in reusing vacant and non vacant sites.

997
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:52,000
It is the same practice. If you carry over a vacant or non vacant site for more than two cycles, you are exposed to that by right with 20% requirement. So, we can continue to count them, but we, you know, have to allow that by right provision or accommodate that by right provision.

998
01:47:52,000 --> 01:48:00,000
Do you know if hand, for example, like the Catholic, what we call the Catholic church property, that's been probably in two cycles?

999
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:05,000
That's been in four or five. Okay, so that really would be a problem.

1000
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:16,000
It has been and in the last cycle, HCD did require the town to rezone it to allow by right development and that is what the R2 zone is in the zoning code.

1001
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:22,000
It only applies to that one parcel and it allows by right at increased density on that site, and that's currently the law.

1002
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:30,000
What does that mean by by right? I mean, I remember I was on the CDRB. It's very dense increased it, but what does by right mean?

1003
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:41,000
Yes, they can't say no. Yeah, so just unpack that. So, HCD uses the concept by right, but you'll sometimes hear it as ministerial approval and those are the same concepts.

1004
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:50,000
So you have discretionary approval and ministerial approval, discretionary is you can say no if you have a reason and your code to say no.

1005
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:56,000
That's usually the findings you make for a use permit or a master development planner or sorts of things.

1006
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:12,000
Ministerial means if it meets the requirements in the code, you cannot say no. So if your code says no more than three stories and here's the floor area ratio and the setbacks are acts and et cetera and they check all the boxes.

1007
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:16,000
You have to give them an over-the-counter building permit. So buy right in HCD speak.

1008
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:25,000
So that is the status of that property now. Correct. Okay, so the number comes in for there and meets the requirements that town will not be able to say no. That's correct.

1009
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:33,000
Okay. Any questions? Councilmember McKee for go to the public. I don't see your hand, but I can't always see it.

1010
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:39,000
I had a loan network connection and I'm not sure that you can hear me right now.

1011
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,000
Yes, we can hear me. Yes, we can hear you.

1012
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:48,000
Good because I've been on more than a minute delay. So I'd you can hear me. Thank you.

1013
01:49:48,000 --> 01:50:01,000
So Aaron, I think this is obvious, but with the 93 units in our sites inventory, how many sit on land that the town controls?

1014
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,000
None.

1015
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:15,000
Okay, so if either a private site develops this cycle, what's our remaining path to lower the income obligation?

1016
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,000
Could you repeat that?

1017
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:31,000
I said, if neither private site develops this cycle, the one that you had pointed out, what would our path be to lower the income obligation? Do we have one?

1018
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:38,000
Yeah, I don't know. We would have to find alternative sites.

1019
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:51,000
And I have you. So when we looked at the occupations list for y'all bill, one occupations in the workforce table fell into that very low income.

1020
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:56,000
And where we have built one unit of the 19.

1021
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:11,000
So we are extremely shy on the very low, which you have pointed out, do we have any way to make a path to get there?

1022
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:22,000
Outside of the housing, a path outside of the housing element opportunities sites at the moment, we do not.

1023
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:31,000
That's what I would just add. You could amend your zoning code to require additional very low units for for all development.

1024
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:37,000
So you're inclusionary housing ordinance that council member night was referring to and that we've spoken about.

1025
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:50,000
It requires 15% of the units. If the development has five or more units proposed, 15% of those have to be affordable, but you control the affordability levels for those various units.

1026
01:51:50,000 --> 01:52:02,000
The council could increase the percentage that are affordable or the affordability levels for that inclusionary housing ordinance, and that would get you there more quickly.

1027
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:19,000
Okay, so with the former elementary school site with the plans that we were going to be considering with the AMI being as high as it was, we totally would have missed this low level, which was.

1028
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:37,000
In part way our goal and my correct that we were knowing that we were all of every solution that we were intending to go for the workforce that was making upwards of $60,000 to $120,000.

1029
01:52:37,000 --> 01:53:03,000
So if we missed since we've missed that opportunity, do we, is it best for us to wait to see what the proper charge property developer going to bring forward or do we, is that in our best interest to be more proactive to take action to listen.

1030
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:08,000
Yeah, it's, we could.

1031
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:32,000
Yeah, I mean, it's a really decision for the council. I mean, we don't have control over the the church property, so we don't know when it, when or if a development application is going to be submitted, we don't know what that application is going to look like, how many, you know, how many units necessarily going to be and what their development time frame is, whether building permits could even potentially be issued during this housing element cycle.

1032
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:42,000
Yeah, it's that that that that property to us, we don't control it, it's an unknown so relying on it is.

1033
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:48,000
You know, maybe not the best best thing to do.

1034
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:57,000
And we go with the, yeah, let council move key, finish, then we'll go with the calendar and then back.

1035
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:01,000
So just a clear question.

1036
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:05,000
Council member McKee, so it's got one more question. Okay.

1037
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:11,000
Go ahead, sorry, there's to let me and I'm sure it's killing you all too.

1038
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:15,000
Just the cost for unit of housing.

1039
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:25,000
And since 2018, what, what do you project it be by 2031, I mean, if it's a longer, we wait.

1040
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:29,000
I said, this is going to be for unit in like, right?

1041
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:37,000
I barely got that, but housing costs are only going to continue to go up, so it's only going to get more expensive.

1042
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:40,000
Okay, thank you. I'll stop that question.

1043
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:48,000
Yeah, I think I just wanted to make clear for everybody.

1044
01:54:48,000 --> 01:55:00,000
With regards to housing sites, you know, a good number of our developer sites at the, you know, lower income categories, you know, are, you know, have been approved.

1045
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,000
We have, you know, the humble mixed use project, we're going to get a couple units from Oconvine.

1046
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:11,000
We may have a application on the church property.

1047
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:19,000
The French laundry garden site has to be rezoned, and, you know, that site was only included because at one time,

1048
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:25,000
Chef Keller was thinking there might be a hotel project on that property, which didn't come to fruition, which is fine.

1049
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:29,000
So the point of making is we're running out of sites.

1050
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:39,000
We may be able to, you know, meet our rena numbers, the cycle, but we're going to have another cycle coming up.

1051
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:47,000
We don't know what our number is, but those sites that we showed you towards the end of the presentation.

1052
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:55,000
The common site, the vendor property to the north, depending on what happens with the church property.

1053
01:55:55,000 --> 01:56:01,000
Maybe a portion of that. Those are going to be the sites we're looking at. Those are not included in our housing element now.

1054
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:08,000
And if, once the sites developed obviously, you can't continue to count it as a site that you'll meet your housing needs on.

1055
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:18,000
So just to make it clear to everybody, we're going to probably have to look at some of those sites, including the common site, including the vineyard site.

1056
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:24,000
How much of those properties, you know, how much housing on those properties to be determined.

1057
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:35,000
Okay, thanks. Okay, it's time for the public. You might like to come up and just come up and stay your name and the microphone.

1058
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:45,000
So Stephen Decker, unlike the past, I just have a question actually first to compliment and that was a really good report.

1059
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:54,000
I was very thorough and, you know, for somebody like myself who's not immersed in all of the detail that you are.

1060
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,000
That was clarifying.

1061
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:02,000
So can you pull up the slide of the commons that aerial view of the commons?

1062
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:09,000
And so my question, Aaron, if soon as that comes up.

1063
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:14,000
Well, I think I can ask the question before it comes up. It just helps oriented.

1064
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:24,000
It looks like my question is does the town own the other half of that land that goes all the way up to the to the road?

1065
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:29,000
That's correct. So has that been considered for housing?

1066
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:40,000
I understand the school and various buildings are sitting there, but has that land been considered as a site to increase the number of units?

1067
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:44,000
So we're not there yet, but it's something we could consider in the future.

1068
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:50,000
It would be considered non vacant whereas the parks and play field sites considered vacant.

1069
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:59,000
But yeah, I mean, that portion of the school site was something we were considering before, so yeah, it's possible.

1070
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,000
That's not the site here.

1071
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,000
Yeah.

1072
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:07,000
So that that western half is own public facilities.

1073
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:11,000
Now where the eastern half is zone parks and play fields.

1074
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:15,000
But yeah, if we own the town owns all of that.

1075
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:19,000
So the town could decide to include that.

1076
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:20,000
Okay.

1077
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:25,000
Thank you.

1078
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:30,000
So Aaron is the commons in our housing element now, not the commons, but that piece of property.

1079
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:31,000
It is not.

1080
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:34,000
It's not. So we could definitely put that in.

1081
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,000
Hopefully something will have happened.

1082
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:39,000
But worst case it could be put in for the next cycle.

1083
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:40,000
That's right.

1084
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,000
Hi, I'm Michael Bork. I just wanted to say a couple of things.

1085
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:51,000
First of all, I was never proud of our community, proud of our community than when it purchased the former school site.

1086
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:58,000
I hope that we can find a way to move forward in a way that satisfies the requirements that we have now.

1087
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:08,000
And I want to emphasize that one of my fears is that if we don't do that, the builders remedy for example could create an explosion of things that we don't really want here.

1088
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:15,000
I mean, I've heard talk of there being, you just said something about 240 units down by the by the church, for example.

1089
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:21,000
And a part of town that is already really dance by virtue of the the Park City are there.

1090
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:27,000
You know, my concern having gone through a couple of developments over the last year where we lost.

1091
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:35,000
The size of old amount of control over them going into a place where we lose all of the control could completely change the character of this town.

1092
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:49,000
The attempts to come up with a plan to use the comments in a way that was beautiful and didn't look like it was something you stuck behind the you know behind the railroad tracks on the south end of town.

1093
01:59:49,000 --> 02:00:00,000
It's something I hope that all of this community can get behind and do something and do it right away because, you know, as somebody pointed out to me recently has taken over two years to get to get the state to it.

1094
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:18,000
Approve the pipeline that has to go underneath the river. These things take enormous amount of time to do. And I just hope that everybody will get behind this. Everybody's reported to be a really forward this housing. And I'm hoping that people will do this.

1095
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:29,000
Because I could see in five years or ten years that we have massive buildings, you know, unused parking lots that have been turned into condominiums, additional hotel rooms. All these things could happen here.

1096
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:37,000
And this is not going to be the community that I moved to thirty four years ago and hope to live here for another, no ten or twenty. Thank you very much.

1097
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,000
Thank you.

1098
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:49,000
I also want to come up and ask some questions.

1099
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:57,000
Hello. Council staff and people behind me. I'm not used to being behind me.

1100
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:03,000
John Dunbar, former of Yelpville and currently in Napa. A couple of things I wanted to mention.

1101
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:11,000
I'm glad it was just brought up about the former school site that the entire 6.8 acres is potentially available for housing.

1102
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:19,000
It's I saw that you've limited it to that one part that's owned parks in Yelpville space but a parks and recreation.

1103
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:23,000
That certainly makes a big difference because there's quite a bit of space there.

1104
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:31,000
I remember years ago we were told by the state that that's really really nice that you have a two-story high limit. We don't care.

1105
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:37,000
And that's the reality that's really nice. We have properties that have vineyards on them. They don't care.

1106
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:45,000
And so it's your point comes from a night. The police of property that we were told years ago they had no interest in ever doing anything.

1107
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:53,000
We have great finds on it and then recently we hear, well the generations no longer are as committed to that and it might be viable.

1108
02:01:53,000 --> 02:02:03,000
I mean there's some really severe things that you could take to make that a viable housing property that we in Yelpville have never wanted to do.

1109
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:12,000
We've been hearing talk about that in Napa about eminent domain. Those are really scary terms that we don't really ever like I said want to get to.

1110
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:19,000
But I found it interesting that nowhere in the presentation was there a single word mentioned about the veteran site.

1111
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:31,000
And I spent a close to a decade working on trying to line up so many different state agencies and elected officials at all levels.

1112
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:47,000
And community leaders and council and staff and we had a project that was pretty close to at least a conceptual project of between 150 and 200 units in the northeast corner of the campus,

1113
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:59,000
which is basically behind domain chandon. There's a vacant meadow and there's a very old one of the residential halls in two small staff houses.

1114
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:06,000
We had I had that all lined up with members of the Department of General Services and Housing and Community Development.

1115
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:16,000
We had two developers ready to come to the property and do a site visit and then potentially give request for proposals.

1116
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:29,000
But at the time it ran up against the skilled nursing facility and the former VA administrator, Dr. Ambassiani rightfully to I mean he absolutely had the right to do it.

1117
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:35,000
He prioritized getting the state funding for the skilled nursing facility that was needed made sense.

1118
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:48,000
I failed and others failed to convince him you could do two things at once and that would be to provide affordable housing for your caregivers for the veterans.

1119
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:53,000
It seemed to make a whole lot of sense. It ran into Sacramento red tape.

1120
02:03:53,000 --> 02:04:06,000
Because what General Services and Housing and Community Development said the two things they require local jurisdiction support, which we were happy to give and support from the Veterans Affairs Department.

1121
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:16,000
And he was supportive of that but not at the risk of jeopardizing the funding for the skilled nursing facility. He ended up getting that funding.

1122
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:30,000
And I would have hoped that between the town and the many local administrators that have been up there since then that somebody would have picked up that effort and moved it forward.

1123
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:39,000
The Governor put an executive order together that state surplus property would be basically granted to a developer to build housing.

1124
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:47,000
When Governor Newsom was here in Yelpville announcing his millions of housing initiative.

1125
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:51,000
And he was happy to support housing at the Veterans Home.

1126
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:59,000
So I would strongly encourage those of you that are still in office and I'm happy to help with the background on that.

1127
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:14,000
We keep trying that. It would have relieved a lot of the pressure we're talking about today about the density and the limited locations and the inability to get to really control things that are privately owned.

1128
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:17,000
So people know how to find me if you want.

1129
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:34,000
You're just at on to that. We've been still talking with Calvet and DGS and they do an annual homes update and it's not in there. I ask why and they said we're willing in two years to talk about that subject.

1130
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:50,000
Again, so I don't take no for the answer but and so we still have lots of conversations but you know it's they know that we're very interested and we keep asking so.

1131
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,000
We'll be we'll be in touch.

1132
02:05:52,000 --> 02:06:17,000
I think also you know there are so many projects of deferred maintenance at the home that I am not hopeful that they will turn to a completely new set of projects to bring this even though it's in kind of skimmed on in their latest master plan that they should have.

1133
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:31,000
I'm not a completely new employee housing but with the change of administrations and the new secretary there focuses much different and they're.

1134
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:35,000
Even if they did produce housing there.

1135
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:42,680
that it would be filled with the caregivers of the home, not any of the residential needs,

1136
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:48,120
not our town employees. It would be the veteran's home employees. And I think that's

1137
02:06:48,120 --> 02:07:03,400
a great thing. But we still have a response, excuse me. Hello. Thank you. We still have

1138
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:12,040
a responsibility to our workers in town as well. Certainly we could reach our numbers with Rina doing

1139
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:20,920
that or hopefully doing that sometime in the future. But I don't see it helping what we see is the

1140
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:31,320
major reason for coming up with the Commons as an affordable housing opportunity zone to

1141
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:40,840
accommodate our workers in town. So I think there's a lot of, yes, pros and cons to that idea

1142
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:46,200
and certainly the all of the cards are held by the state and not us.

1143
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:55,800
Councilmember Knight. Thank you, Mayor. It's also an welcome former mayor,

1144
02:07:55,800 --> 02:08:01,800
Dumbar. Councilmember former mayor, he chair the League of California cities,

1145
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:08,360
a very prestigious, prestigious organization for a year and we were fortunate for a small town to have

1146
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:13,080
John leading the league and meeting the governor and doing things like that. I think there's

1147
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:20,920
there are all opportunities we have. I think the veterans right now are just hoping to see the

1148
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:26,360
veterans home and Calbed that open and the skilled nursing facility that continues to be a continuing

1149
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:33,240
challenge. I'm hoping that occurs and then at some point, I think for just the goals of the community,

1150
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:38,760
we want to see housing up there and if it's for those that work and care for the veterans at the

1151
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:47,320
veteran's home, good. And when I go to work in the morning and those folks are leaving early

1152
02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:53,720
that have been there on the night shift or coming in to start their day, those are a lot of folks

1153
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:59,880
that are commuting from Salano and Fairfield that if there's an opportunity for them to live on that home,

1154
02:08:59,880 --> 02:09:06,760
like for years, many did in some of those smaller cottages and things that are now

1155
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:13,880
not something you can live in. I hope that I hope we can support that and I look forward to

1156
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:19,800
supporting the veterans and getting housing there. I think it minimally to serve the veterans for

1157
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:26,520
the folks that have to provide all the care that they need there. So thank you for joining us

1158
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:36,040
for our Mayor. Thank you for your comments. Good afternoon everybody. I just wanted to follow up. I'm

1159
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:44,440
Jennifer Brewster. Follow up on John Dunbar's comments about the Oville Veterans' home. I recognize

1160
02:09:44,440 --> 02:09:49,400
that workforce housing here, low-income versus there. Their state were very different. They are voting

1161
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:55,560
citizens of this community. And I think it's really important that they just had a board meeting and

1162
02:09:55,560 --> 02:10:03,720
which their secretary was there and their Calvett board and the big question was of their eight homes. What is the

1163
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:13,640
census? 62% of their eight homes. So what does that mean for Yachtville? If they're just looked

1164
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:22,440
at numbers on a piece of paper, there are between 545 residents that live there. The capacity is just

1165
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:31,320
under 900. In the past, we could go up there on a given day when there was 1,000 to 1,200 people up there.

1166
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:38,360
Correct. Remember all those days. Now what's the difference is by law they can't take in more

1167
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:44,440
veterans and what does secretary Kobe say the things that he thinks about at night is the census

1168
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:52,040
deferred maintenance and emergency up there. So when we have an ice-keep repeating this every time my step

1169
02:10:52,040 --> 02:11:00,360
up here, we have an ethos in the military and I'm not military. But my father was, my partner was,

1170
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:12,760
we leave no man, no woman, behind. We continue for 20, 30, 40 years to leave men and women behind

1171
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:20,280
on a waiting list for long-term care and memory because if you don't think that these wars, we ignore

1172
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:29,000
Vietnam. But I'm telling you, that man, that woman is here which medic brain injury and that

1173
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:35,080
question was asked and I invite you guys all to look at those board meetings. What is the most unmet

1174
02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:41,880
need up there? And that is going to be memory and long-term care because those men and women is 22 years

1175
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:50,040
out and they're going to need those homes and we are at 62% capacity across that means that where

1176
02:11:50,040 --> 02:12:00,920
are the other 38% sitting? And when you look at that budget of 161 million and divide it by 545

1177
02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:10,920
residents up there, I'm saying why is it an existence? That's when I'm scared of and what John Dunbar

1178
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:18,120
is saying is we have got to crack the code and figuring out ways of injury and pain and healer,

1179
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:26,040
you guys are up there every month at the allied councils and you know what's going on up there. Our

1180
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:35,640
census is decreasing and it's not a result of not having beds. It's a result of not having staff.

1181
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:42,760
It's by law. That new law, that's new sniff was supposed to open up in 2024.

1182
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:48,440
It's not going to be a capacity from what I'm understanding and I could be wrong. It's not going to be a

1183
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:57,000
capacity because we don't have staff. So we have to figure out a creative way to work with Sacramento

1184
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:03,800
and figure out because they are your voting citizens and I can guarantee you, I know I'm a pain in the

1185
02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:12,040
butt up here at times. But I want to see how what group is going to crack the code because there

1186
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:18,200
is employees will eventually want to spend money in this town, but how I know it's different,

1187
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:25,800
but we've got to get creative and I firmly believe that we've got to leave nobody behind on that

1188
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:31,880
weight list and that means bring more staff and it's differential pay. It's workforce housing. I encourage

1189
02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:37,800
everybody to look at those cow vote board meetings because they are just as concerned, but nobody

1190
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:42,400
knows how to break down those doors. So like John, we never give up and then tug my Gros

1191
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:51,240
word, you got to believe because we got to be able to do it. Yes, please come up.

1192
02:13:54,360 --> 02:14:00,200
That was pretty hard act to follow but I'm going to go back to Erin's presentation if you don't mind

1193
02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:06,680
which I would echo Stephen Becker's comments. It was exceptional. My husband and I read it a couple of

1194
02:14:06,680 --> 02:14:15,080
times and grasp most of it. The one curious question that I have for all of you does anyone is anyone

1195
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:22,280
particularly concerned that Yachtville as a town might be under the microscope for all this because we are

1196
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:29,560
such a high visibility town where a small town and we have a lot of affluent people living in this town

1197
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:36,280
and a lot of single family homes that have a great deal of value relative to Erin's statistics for

1198
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:46,920
how few limited housing we have, very limited housing for lower to moderate income residents. So I'm

1199
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:54,440
just raising the curious question that I have is whether the state would maybe be more likely to

1200
02:14:54,440 --> 02:15:00,440
look at us than some other places because of our image and because of

1201
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,000
The inequity of housing in our town. That's all I'd say. Thank you.

1202
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:06,000
Yes.

1203
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:08,000
It sounds very few, Dr. Riespond.

1204
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:16,000
Yeah. I can't answer that directly, yes or no. What I will say is that there are other cities

1205
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:22,000
in the state that certainly have similar demographics with housing prices and are also under scrutiny.

1206
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:29,000
My sense is that HCD is an equal opportunity scrutinize right now, and they are looking at every county in the state.

1207
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:38,000
Okay. Thank you. Anybody else like to come up and ask questions? This is your chance.

1208
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:44,000
If I may again, Jill Turner. I have two questions. I'll ask the local one first of all.

1209
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:53,000
In one of the presentations that somebody made at one of the events previously, there was the idea of pairing with, like,

1210
02:15:53,000 --> 02:16:01,000
yeah, I'm feeling pairing maybe with Napa or somebody else and sharing credits. Is that something that's a viable possibility or not?

1211
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:05,000
It is done, but it's typically done when there's something to exchange for money.

1212
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:11,000
So typically what I've seen is Napa County will, for instance, if we were working on affordable housing project here.

1213
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:16,000
Here's, you know, a certain amount of money, but you're taking X number of our green credits.

1214
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:19,000
That's typically what I've seen how it works.

1215
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:22,000
It's kind of quick pro quo because money that's exchange.

1216
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:23,000
That's right.

1217
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:27,000
My other thing, it was really good to hear John Dunbart and delighted to hear about that.

1218
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:36,000
And my question is, is this really a California thing or is all, are all states in America dealing with kind of these type of issues?

1219
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:37,000
I'm just curious.

1220
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:45,000
Well, the housing elements specific to California, but I would think that there are other states that are dealing very similar issues.

1221
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:46,000
Okay.

1222
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:56,000
Just to add to that, I think it may be a little more California-centric because the value and price of land here, one.

1223
02:16:56,000 --> 02:17:05,000
The regulations here are greater than in many other states and across the labor and material are more expensive.

1224
02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:08,000
So I do think it is a little California-specific.

1225
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:14,000
There are other states that have a lot of regulations in high-priceland, but for California, you know,

1226
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:22,000
for better or worse, we're kind of known for being very having a heavily regulatory business environment and development environment.

1227
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:24,000
Thank you.

1228
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:42,000
And I'm also reading a lot to the federal level whether trying to pass laws through the, you know, the Senate and the legislature about some of these big businesses that are buying up a lot of property and renting them out and that increasing rent throughout the country.

1229
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:46,000
I think there's a lot of little pieces to this.

1230
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:56,000
Not quite as specific as, you know, a bag giving us read and numbers that, you know, we're talking about today, but housing crisis all over the United States.

1231
02:17:56,000 --> 02:18:08,000
It's, you know, we talk about all the money that's, you know, in the baby boomers right now and it's too expensive to leave your house and move even downsize because of a lot of tax consequences.

1232
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:12,000
And housing is on the national radar as well.

1233
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:20,000
So anybody else want to come up and ask some questions about our housing element?

1234
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:23,000
We'll probably keep talking about this.

1235
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:26,000
And then the new one will be coming around soon.

1236
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:34,000
So anyway, thank you very much for your presentation and less comments.

1237
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:52,000
Yeah, I just wanted to follow up because it feels like we have some work to do and I would like it to be done sooner than later because it seems like we need to reason some properties that are not suitable.

1238
02:18:52,000 --> 02:19:10,000
And we also need to have maybe an affordable housing developer like Burbank, maybe generation housing come and give us more information on affordability and how they accomplish it.

1239
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:19,000
What might it look like if we partnered, what might it look like if they advised those kinds of issues.

1240
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:33,000
And also, I think we need some sort of, I know that the HCD report or update is comes in March something like that.

1241
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:42,000
I would think we're preparing all the numbers as you've repaired them for this presentation.

1242
02:19:42,000 --> 02:20:00,000
But I feel like we need to go over how do we make sure that we are following that one program that says we're going to preserve affordable housing units that we already have.

1243
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,000
So we know that several single family housing units are dropping off.

1244
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:29,000
Those people are getting the leg up that we wanted them to have, but the procedure for the rental properties seems like we should go through that and make sure we're doing our best efforts to make and figure out a program that we can offer to those people who own it.

1245
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:39,000
To maintain the affordability or do we look at putting it into affordability through an investment.

1246
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:47,000
So all of those things I think we need to come back again when we talk seriously about.

1247
02:20:48,000 --> 02:21:04,000
Which properties in town would be proper to rezone and and make some affordable housing possible in town under this arena number because we're not going to make it with what we have.

1248
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:09,000
So we need to look at those additional places now.

1249
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:16,000
So that we can make that that request by the state.

1250
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:22,000
Question and a comment.

1251
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:35,000
And actually I attended and I think Pam did and maybe somebody else to the generation housing presentation here in Napa and they are really big proponents of ADUs and in fill.

1252
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:42,000
In fact, they kind of said near term that's what they see the solution given the cost of building housing here.

1253
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:48,000
And that brought to mind something in the housing in one of your agenda to the presentation.

1254
02:21:48,000 --> 02:22:09,000
It had all the policies or programs and it mentioned that we had applied for a grant of I don't know almost $300,000 for ADUs to subsidize the construction as long as people agreed to rent it to appropriate income level.

1255
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:11,000
Did that grant ever come through.

1256
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:18,000
It did and there's information on that on our website so folks are interested in go and there's a whole web page dedicated to it.

1257
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:27,000
Okay, so people could get alone basically or grant I'm not in could outline which it is to build an ADU.

1258
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,000
Yep, and we have the money.

1259
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:35,000
Yeah, there are limits on how much they can like each household can get.

1260
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:40,000
Okay, but and then there is a restriction you know with the affordability moving forward.

1261
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:54,000
And it's a big deal you have to put record on your home restriction and it's part of the title and yeah so it's it's a big hurdle but on the other hand you can get either a low or no interest loan or grant.

1262
02:22:54,000 --> 02:23:09,000
So that's that's that's when I first got on the council I was really big into 80 years and kind of left that behind when we began to focus on the commons, but I think that's still something that you don't feel should really think about.

1263
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:14,000
All right, now let's move on to.

1264
02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:22,000
My name is Rocio Cutty I'm live in Beloved.

1265
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:36,000
I have been an owner of rental property I have owned homes I've done a lot of things and then an event happened in my life where I have lived in various different experiences.

1266
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:50,000
I was always vulnerable to the owner of the rental property that left me more vulnerable and to be able to buy or afford something was very difficult.

1267
02:23:50,000 --> 02:24:03,000
The mobile home here was the least expensive then renting something twice as much on Jefferson Street it was only 200 square feet.

1268
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:28,000
So my point is about things like the alternatives to just where somebody owns your place that rents it is that if there is some way that you can have like what you know we're trying to do with the trailers right we're trying with it with our mobile homes.

1269
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:39,000
We're trying to get them not to be subsidized but to be able to maintain the rent to a one time increase because that way we can still say.

1270
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:53,000
And one of my thoughts was my biggest thought is John feels a beautiful place and when I was looking for a place I almost got on one of the subsidized things and it was like it fit the town.

1271
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:58,000
I mean I know it's not exactly it but it wasn't for stories it wasn't three stories.

1272
02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:14,000
I think there's ways that you can architecturally I think there's people like the prince and I mean the king Charles he's did stuff around what he how to make neighborhoods and places that were complementary where they would have things you can have.

1273
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:19,000
Double use you can have businesses on the bottom you can have things on top.

1274
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:39,000
I think there's a way that more thought and more care and maybe some diversity 80 use maybe getting a mobile home owner to make something that would be flat on that other side at that one place and then get someplace over here.

1275
02:25:39,000 --> 02:26:04,000
You know to begin to learn how to sparse things out rather than to just okay with 72 on this place that just doesn't make any sense to me and it takes away the beauty of your town and it takes away the feeling of the place which I think is also important and that contributes to the way people will take care and be proud of the place.

1276
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:17,000
And so I really really I don't think outside the box because I don't think there is a box and I'm going to ask you to really try to look at that.

1277
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:32,000
All of you and even those of us that are in our residents here because there are a multitude of ways to how somebody in which they can rent feel good about what they're doing and people can still make money.

1278
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:35,000
Thank you.

1279
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:42,000
So I'll close a public comment and move on to council.

1280
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:45,000
We have another one more.

1281
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:48,000
I know I've said this over and over.

1282
02:26:48,000 --> 02:27:01,000
My name is Karen Thurling and I just want to say that if we could please get somebody higher somebody to put the employees survey together to get it out to all the employers and the people.

1283
02:27:01,000 --> 02:27:09,000
And the veterans and all the businesses for all the employees that's where you have to start and that was in your actual information.

1284
02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:20,000
Would you have to know what the needs are what they what they can afford and how many so that you can make the configuration realistic and correct.

1285
02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:23,000
Thank you.

1286
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:27,000
Anybody else who would like to talk.

1287
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:37,000
I will close public comment and any is time for a council external meeting reports.

1288
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:39,000
I was at flood control.

1289
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:43,000
I mean look at my flood control notes here.

1290
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:46,000
Flood control.

1291
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:52,000
We awarded a some contracts for the bare slow beer creek.

1292
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:57,000
I know that is restoration project and we also.

1293
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:10,000
Increased some engineering studies that we needed on another phase of the flood control and everything else was we had five items and closed session.

1294
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:14,000
Anyway there's a quick like control.

1295
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:22,000
How long have you been working on the flood wall project that you're currently working on.

1296
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:38,000
Well currently we're getting ready for final construction of the third phase and that is pretty much done and we might be going to court on a couple properties that we're still trying to get but we think we've got.

1297
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:46,000
Pat for that is all ready to go building will probably you and I see building sometime this year I think on that.

1298
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:59,000
We're at the about 50% design phase on the the last portion it's a portion where there's a lot of neighborhoods that really face up to the river in the very southern part.

1299
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:06,000
And the neighborhoods are really asking us to be a little more creative when we first started.

1300
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:10,920
a lot of the flood control walls or at least, you know, somewhere between depending on the

1301
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:17,440
topography of the land, five feet to almost seven feet. And so that was over 20 years

1302
02:29:17,440 --> 02:29:23,120
ago. And so they're really asking for taking a look back to see if there's another creative

1303
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:30,520
way to make a flood wall. So we are going to look into that to see it's difficult making a

1304
02:29:30,520 --> 02:29:34,600
flood control wall. It's got to be a solid feature. And you're going to make it as attractive

1305
02:29:34,600 --> 02:29:41,160
as possible. But for the residents, I think we will thoroughly evaluate that before we continue

1306
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:46,040
with any further design phase. So it's going to be a lot of public outreach. You'll probably

1307
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:52,720
be reading about the paper on that part. So that'll be with the Army Corps of Engineers

1308
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:58,600
work. You know, I would say this will well over a year plus in design. And that's before

1309
02:29:58,600 --> 02:29:59,840
we even start.

1310
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:10,000
Get an easements for people on the end of properties. So that that'll be a while. But the other one will probably be near complete by the time we're ready to go with the last and final phase.

1311
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:28,000
But back to some of our other discussions, I really believe that a lot of this work has been done over 20 plus years in the flood control has really made a big difference. We have not seen these big flooding areas between Hopper Creek and the Naffa River.

1312
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:38,000
And so maybe a lot of this work that has been going on for so long could have an impact on the church property that's in a flood control zone.

1313
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:50,000
You know, I think a lot of the data that we have now with all the flood control projects, my opinion, could certainly influence somebody changing some maps. So I'm optimistic.

1314
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:54,000
So any other council meetings?

1315
02:30:54,000 --> 02:31:05,000
Yes, I attended the Upper Valley Waste Management meeting, which is the provider of our garbage services. And I'm the representative for Yantville.

1316
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:15,000
And most of it was normal business and updates on the budget and such. Two things that I thought were actually three.

1317
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:27,000
And the meetings now for the first time, I believe it's the first time. We'll be on video. It used to be you could get later listened to audio recording, but now they'll be on video.

1318
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:36,000
And I think that's great for transparency. The other thing I think was, and I need to get more details, but if any of you are interested.

1319
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:53,000
The board decided to offer a subsidy for garbage rates for people who qualify under the PG&E subsidies, not the right word, but the PG&E program for reduced rates, which is the same mechanism Yantville uses.

1320
02:31:53,000 --> 02:32:04,000
So that we don't have to look when we have some offer a reduced rate on water. The only requirement is that you be part of the PG&E program.

1321
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:14,000
And that stops the town from having to go through everyone's financials and whatnot. So the Upper Valley Waste Management decided to adopt that same provision.

1322
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:22,000
And there will be a reduced garbage rate available for people on that program. So if that's of interest, please contact me.

1323
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:29,000
And then, as some of you may know, the Clover Flat Landfill in Sanalina is scheduled for closure.

1324
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:41,000
And update was given. It's looking like it's a little farther out than we might have imagined. Apparently, there is, as you might think, a lot of environmental and regulatory hurdles.

1325
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:49,000
So at one time, I think the thought was it could be done in maybe two years, but it's sounding like a much longer process.

1326
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:54,000
So that is what came out of that meeting. So thank you.

1327
02:32:54,000 --> 02:33:05,000
Any other meeting reports? See, none can I get a motion to adjourn where before I get a motion in a second.

1328
02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:14,000
Can you just tell manager talk a little bit about the summer recess we're going to take and what your expectations are after our next.

1329
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:23,000
So my understanding is the council historically has taken a summer recess for the first meeting in August.

1330
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:33,000
Excuse me, the second meeting in August in the first meeting in September. So as of this point, we will recognize that historic recess.

1331
02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:44,000
We will have a full business agenda on August 4th. There will not be another discussion item related to housing in the Commons project at that meeting.

1332
02:33:44,000 --> 02:33:58,000
When you reconvene in mid September, we do hope to have a town manager contract to provide them on their depending on how the process goes over the next month and a half.

1333
02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:26,000
And we could potentially have another housing related or informational community conversation potentially featuring an affordable housing developer who can talk about the nuts and bolts of affordable housing projects and what it means to partner or how different different ways to partner with a community or local jurisdiction in developing and managing affordable housing.

1334
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:33,000
Would we expect that in the second meeting in September? Yes, we will be on break. So pending confirmation.

1335
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:43,000
We are tentatively looking at that meeting for that discussion.

1336
02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:55,000
I just want to make an observation. We really are not getting summer vacation because I think we have for the recruitment process for the town manager three days meetings in August including a Saturday.

1337
02:34:55,000 --> 02:34:59,000
So I just want people to know we're still at work.

1338
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:12,000
And then I wanted to ask you at one point the council asked if we could get a presentation on a kind of an overview of potential mobile home park ordinances.

1339
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:25,000
And I know that's on your agenda, but obviously Aaron's been working really hard on other presentations, but what's your thinking on the timing that presentation will happen on your August 4th meeting.

1340
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:33,000
So just for everybody's understanding we're not presenting a rent stabilization ordinance for adoption.

1341
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:39,000
We're presenting information to council on what's included in rent stabilization ordinance.

1342
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:48,000
Some of the things that considers what would be the process potentially for moving forward with an ordinance adopting an ordinance.

1343
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:58,000
If the council wants to do that and then seeking council direction or comments on after hearing that presentation is there more information you need.

1344
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:08,000
Are you ready to proceed with preparing an ordinance will get direction based on you know what you hear and what questions you have from that presentation.

1345
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:10,000
So that will be on your August 4th agenda.

1346
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:14,000
So we'll talk about process and timelines and things like that too.

1347
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:21,000
So just to recap it's what you could call educational there other than perhaps giving more direction there won't be any.

1348
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:32,000
No there's no action decision making we will though I do want to underscore we will you know look to council for direction on what you want to do if anything after receiving that presentation.

1349
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:36,000
And I only ask because I know a number of people are interested so thank you.

1350
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:44,000
And there yes councilmember McKee would like to make a external report if it's still possible yes go ahead.

1351
02:36:44,000 --> 02:37:05,000
Thank you at the recent commission on meeting I wanted to let you know that the veteran services office is working actually and creating office space at valid centers to be able to cover the many veteran theory that don't reside necessarily and.

1352
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:20,000
And not though since 80% of the this tend to be over 60% they did this space to hope that there can make it for any up vowing veterans can't get to now.

1353
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:23,000
So I hope that helps.

1354
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:27,000
And for here specifically within BTA that.

1355
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:33,000
The N BTA is adopted a pay program for those taking over if.

1356
02:37:33,000 --> 02:37:39,000
If you sign up in advance through the NDA website half the cost can be covered.

1357
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:54,000
And we did have a report from supervised trail and of course that the beautiful bill has been making funding really hard for in home support services other programs that are dedicated to.

1358
02:37:54,000 --> 02:38:00,000
But this supervisors have lobbied back against this state and secured money.

1359
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:09,000
And as a result of networking valley farm centers I was able to connect for yantville residents in a low income.

1360
02:38:09,000 --> 02:38:15,000
I'm sorry with share the care that actually does home rehabilitation.

1361
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:18,000
They also assist with unclutter.

1362
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:24,000
So in this case this couple of same their kitchen sink was no longer functioning.

1363
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:29,000
So they now have a contractor as their case to assist them with that.

1364
02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:34,000
And then it's a connected them with the now that HCD for perhaps.

1365
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:45,000
And being in comes up and they can apply for the programs that yant the partners with HCD and have the.

1366
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:51,000
Repair to be on the kitchen sink and have own that attaches to the property for at least years.

1367
02:38:51,000 --> 02:38:53,000
So thank you for listening.

1368
02:38:53,000 --> 02:38:56,000
Okay, thank you.

1369
02:38:57,000 --> 02:39:00,000
Did we have any mystery reports.

1370
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:02,000
We didn't see anything on the agenda, so.

1371
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:03,000
Yeah, okay.

1372
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:04,000
Hopefully we do.

1373
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:05,000
Thank you for asking me.

1374
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:06,000
Okay.

1375
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:07,000
Okay.

1376
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:08,000
Motion.

1377
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:11,000
To adjourn to our regular schedule meeting.

1378
02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:14,000
Three o'clock on August the fourth.

1379
02:39:14,000 --> 02:39:17,000
I move adjournment till August the fourth.

1380
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,000
Our second.

1381
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:19,000
We have a motion.

1382
02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:20,000
Second.

1383
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:21,000
All in favor say aye.

1384
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:22,000
Aye.

1385
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:23,000
Aye.

1386
02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:24,000
All right.

1387
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:25,000
Everybody.

1388
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:26,000
It's a wrap.

1389
02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:27,000
Thanks for coming.

1390
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:28,000
Bye.