1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,080 Um 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,920 I guess the first thing on it is item 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,480 one. Do I have a motion to approve the 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,520 minutes from March 2nd? 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,000 >> Can I make the roll call first? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,520 >> Oh. 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,230 >> Yes, I thought so. 8 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:22,070 » Do we do roll call first? 9 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:23,880 » These things here. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,750 >> Oh, I'm sorry. 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,360 » You can do roll call or you can do the 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,360 invocation, however you want to do it. 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,480 >> Let's do roll call. 14 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,990 >> Okay. 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Mark Co9. 16 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,680 >> Here. 17 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,480 >> Kenneth Floyd. 18 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:40,440 >> Here. 19 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,600 >> Kerry Sharp. 20 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,360 >> Here. 21 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,480 >> Buddy Carpenter. 22 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:50,590 Jeff Schwaller. 23 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,480 » Now item one. 24 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:54,160 >> No, now the invocation and the flag 25 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,600 salute. 26 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,960 >> Oh, okay. Who's doing that? 27 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,510 >> So, who's doing our invocation today? 28 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Anyone can. 29 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,680 >> Okay. 30 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,470 >> Sure. 31 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,400 Let's go ahead and stand and do our flag 32 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,350 salute and our invocation. 33 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Attention. Salute. Pledge. 34 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 35 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,640 United States of America 36 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 and to the republic for which it stands, 37 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,480 one nation under God, indivisible with 38 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:32,030 liberty and justice for all. 39 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,560 » Prepare yourself in the manner in which 40 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,710 you are accustomed. 41 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,440 We just come to you today, Lord, to ask 42 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,320 you to 43 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:42,800 >> turn your machines up a little bit? 44 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Some of us are old. 45 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,520 >> How about I pull it Does this work? I 46 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,800 pulled it a little closer. 47 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,640 >> Well, yeah. 48 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,840 >> Okay. 49 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,240 We just come to you today, Lord, and we 50 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,160 ask that you please bring us a 51 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,720 sense of peace 52 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,200 and of unity as we 53 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,120 go through this Board of Adjustments 54 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,560 meeting and as we do what we feel is 55 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,440 best for the community. 56 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,440 May you would uh 57 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,039 continue to give peace as we leave here 58 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:12,600 tonight. In your name I pray. Amen. 59 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,550 >> Amen. 60 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Okay, so 61 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,959 do I have a motion to approve the 62 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:23,080 minutes from March 2nd, the regular 63 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,800 meeting? 64 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,920 >> So moved. 65 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:27,200 >> Second. 66 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,959 >> I call the question. 67 00:02:27,959 --> 00:02:30,990 >> Second. 68 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,670 » Co9. 69 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,990 » Is there any discussion or 70 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,680 No. 71 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,360 >> Okay. 72 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,440 >> Oh, okay. I'm sorry. 73 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,920 >> You're good. You're good. 74 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:44,396 >> Co9. 75 00:02:44,406 --> 00:02:44,800 » [snorts] 76 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,160 >> Yay. 77 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,640 >> Floyd. 78 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:47,400 >> Yes. 79 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:47,920 >> Sharp. 80 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,870 >> Yes. 81 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,920 » Item two um is visitors. If anybody has 82 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:01,350 uh anything to get up and talk about. 83 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,080 No discussion? 84 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,350 >> I can't hear a word you're saying. 85 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,760 » We're in the visitor's section. I was 86 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,200 just wondering if there's anybody wanted 87 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,760 to get up and say anything for the 88 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,760 visitors. 89 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,120 No discussions? 90 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,880 >> Uh discuss the part 91 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,400 >> Just visitor discussions. 92 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:20,640 >> Oh. 93 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,200 >> If you want to get up and talk about 94 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:22,840 whatever. 95 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,720 >> It would be for non-agenda item for the 96 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,937 visitor section. 97 00:03:28,947 --> 00:03:29,000 » [cough and clears throat] 98 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 >> Item number three is 99 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Board of Adjustments 2026-03 100 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,560 to hear the request from Rhonda Smith 101 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,320 for a variance from standards in the 102 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Unified Development Code for an 103 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 accessory structure size 104 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,000 at 204 Ash Avenue. 105 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,670 >> Yes, sir. 106 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Mrs. Smith? 107 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,960 >> Yes. is Horn Howery. Um 108 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,680 I don't know what I was going 109 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,800 >> Name and address, please. 110 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,520 >> My name is Rhonda Smith. I reside at 111 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,040 4415 112 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,430 Amethyst Circle, Yukon, Oklahoma. 113 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Do I just start talking? 114 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,120 >> Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. 115 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,120 >> Um 116 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,880 I would like to apologize for not 117 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,107 going about this in a different manner. 118 00:04:16,107 --> 00:04:16,799 [snorts] 119 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:19,600 I should have received a permit first. 120 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,880 It was 121 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,680 odd circumstances. I went to pick out 122 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,320 the shed. I talked about the what I 123 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,120 needed it for. The guy says, "This is a 124 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,360 better size." I tried to look at the 125 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,840 ordinances online. I misread. I 126 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:35,280 misunderstood completely a percentage. 127 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,480 Part of that was because the where the 128 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,360 lot is, the front half belongs to the 129 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,360 city easement. So, there was a little 130 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,760 bit of discrepancy in in my square 131 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,040 footage calculation. Moving forward, I 132 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,480 thought it was going to take X amount of 133 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,640 weeks to complete the shed. We have a 134 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,280 snowstorm. 135 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:56,000 I'm going out of town. They call me and 136 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,280 say, "Hey, we have your shed to be 137 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:58,760 delivered." I'm like, "Oh my goodness." 138 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,320 So, I hurry and I I take care of it, but 139 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,080 it's a snowstorm and the city offices 140 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,760 are closed. So, I don't get the permit 141 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,560 before the shed was placed in the yard. 142 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,080 I then come home with a terrible case of 143 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,520 the flu. In the meantime, we have a stop 144 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,280 work sign already up. So, I didn't do 145 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:16,080 anything for a long time until we got 146 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,200 the fence and everything situated. So, 147 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,160 why we bought the shed. 148 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,760 My older daughter owns the house. She's 149 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,160 upgraded and lives elsewhere in Yukon. 150 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,200 My younger daughter, Avery, 151 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,480 is 24. She is hearing impaired. She 152 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,400 wears cochlear implants. 153 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 She has a service dog named Goldie, 154 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,040 who's a golden retriever. She weighs 70 155 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,560 lb. Avery barely weighs 90. 156 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,160 And that little house, this is the first 157 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,880 time she's tried to live on her own. So, 158 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,200 she's living in her sister's rent house. 159 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Um there's no garage. 160 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Starting her car in the winter time, 161 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,280 letting it run outside, it's a little 162 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:51,960 awkward when you can't hear what's going 163 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,560 on. She couldn't hear her alarms if it 164 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,760 went off, you know. Just some things, 165 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 safe safety reasons. Um, square footage 166 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,880 for a garage. She inherited her 167 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,760 brother's Jeep when he passed away a 168 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,240 couple years back. So, she has a Jeep 169 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,480 that she would like to store and she has 170 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,200 a cute little vehicle that she drives 171 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,840 daily. So, to put two vehicles end to 172 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:14,920 end and have some space for a dog wash 173 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,960 bay and some lawn mower equipment, you 174 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,680 know. That's all we're asking for. I was 175 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,200 wrong in the square footage and I really 176 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,200 apologize. However, I can't go to the 177 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,440 standard 24 by 24 double car garage 178 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,800 because of where the gas easement is. 179 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,520 I've with all my boundaries from the 180 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,240 fence line, from the property line. I 181 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,600 mean, I've I I really tried to do 182 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,320 everything correctly. 183 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,240 And we haven't been back inside the shed 184 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,840 since this the orange notices have been 185 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:44,360 put on it. But, if it is approved, the 186 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,919 first thing I would need to do would be to get a gravel approach put on 187 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:50,960 the back side and a garage door. But, 188 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,200 everything would be contained inside the 189 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,400 fence. If anything, it betters our 190 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,960 property value and I believe these 191 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,600 gentlemen have rental property nearby. 192 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,360 And I just want to everybody to 193 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,040 understand it's not going to be a rental 194 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,280 property or a residence. It won't 195 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,440 generate any income. No business, just 196 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,120 simply safety and car storage for this 197 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,760 little bitty house that the closets are 198 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,240 2 ft. So, she turned the second bedroom 199 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,760 into a closet. But, now she's got 200 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,360 holiday stuff and she's got a dog kennel 201 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,440 and a barbecue grill, you know. Things 202 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,240 that I thought I was just trying to help 203 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,480 her by get a garage. I don't know. I 204 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,760 just need you guys to 205 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,120 understand where I'm coming from and I 206 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,919 didn't mean to create a hardship for 207 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:38,520 anybody, but I tried every possible way 208 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 after the notice to I called I 209 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,400 transportation company's not a 210 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,160 I don't have anywhere to move it to. 211 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,760 I've called multiple storage units that 212 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,200 tell me it has to be on wheels. My next 213 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,720 option would be to have to build out a 214 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,640 flatbed trailer and have it lifted up 215 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,640 and put on wheels just to store it 216 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,840 somewhere until I can get it sold. 217 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Um 218 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,360 I I don't know what else I need to say. 219 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 I just it it's not rental, it's not 220 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,040 income generating, no one's going to 221 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,640 live in it. She just needs to store a 222 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,560 couple of small vehicles and some yard 223 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,720 equipment and later down the line have a 224 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,880 dog wash bay and 225 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,360 you know, an extension of an outdoor 226 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,880 patio maybe if we could put a set of 227 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,280 garage doors on the opposite end. But 228 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,720 right now she just needs a place to park 229 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,640 her car and we need to have her 230 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,560 lawnmower over there. I can't put a 231 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,520 lawnmower in it until I get an approach 232 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,080 put there. So, 233 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,320 you know, my son-in-law has been coming 234 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,800 back and forth trying to keep it mowed 235 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,479 for me and he's over there mowing it 236 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:36,760 today, but it's you know, we're going to 237 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,440 paint the outside of the house to match 238 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,320 the shed. I don't think it 239 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,599 looks bad. I sent I gave pictures 240 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:44,440 to everybody. Do you all have any 241 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,360 questions for me? 242 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,360 >> So, I do have a question. I went by 243 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,680 there a couple days ago and then today 244 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,360 and I noticed the picture that you sent 245 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,400 in has a garage door in the back and 246 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,720 obviously does not have one now. 247 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,071 >> not at all. Not at all. It's just 248 00:08:59,071 --> 00:09:00,120 [clears throat] a shed, but I have 249 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,720 prices for a garage door and I would 250 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,600 have to have a permit for that and and 251 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,160 all of that stuff I understand, but no, 252 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,200 it is simply just the hole that got set 253 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,520 there and I was sick with the flu and 254 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,320 then you guys put the stop notice signs 255 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,360 on. So, nothing else has been done. 256 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 >> I actually have pictures of the current 257 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,000 where it currently sits from today. So, 258 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,480 if I'm going to go ahead and pass those 259 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:19,960 out. 260 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,320 >> And then I I I think I included a 261 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,120 picture of if it's improved, this is 262 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,240 what it would look like. 263 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,000 >> Rendering rendering 264 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,920 >> with the garage door and a small gravel 265 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,080 approach. You know, there's some other 266 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,000 locations that back up to the alley that 267 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,040 the garages aren't necessarily fenced in 268 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,040 and they cars parked in yards. I mean, 269 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,400 I'm just trying to do what looks good 270 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,360 and is safe. 271 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 >> If anybody in the audience would like a 272 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,520 photos of what was taken this morning. 273 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,200 >> Driving by today, I did notice that it 274 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,880 does have an air conditioner on the back 275 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,200 where the garage door was. 276 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,880 >> just electrician just have to take that 277 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,840 off and I would ultimately speaking the 278 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,040 garage door itself is about $1,800 plus 279 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,960 installation from a reputable company in 280 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,680 town, but it would need I would like for 281 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:05,200 it to be electric open. So, I'll have to 282 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,040 get some electric done to it, but at 283 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,680 that time they would just move that 284 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:09,760 little 285 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,840 thing. I don't even know if it's 286 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,120 necessary to keep it. 287 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,560 >> Right. Right. Okay. 288 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:14,800 >> The heat and air unit? 289 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,040 >> Yeah, just little thing on it. 290 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,560 >> Yeah, it's right there on the back down 291 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,400 >> never been turned it's not hooked to 292 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,560 anything, you know, it's just there. 293 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:24,720 >> Um 294 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,400 just going through it and and uh looking 295 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,320 at it, it's the board must determine 296 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,720 if there are any extraordinary 297 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,440 conditions related to the property due 298 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,480 to size, shape, and 299 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Is it 300 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,480 >> topography? 301 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Sorry. 302 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,960 >> I did have a couple of questions first. 303 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,280 >> Okay. 304 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,200 >> So, when we're talking about a variance 305 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,960 when it's filed, is it required to be 306 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,640 filed by the property owner or somebody 307 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,000 with a vested interest can file it? 308 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,360 >> It says either or on the application. 309 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,040 >> Okay, and how do we determine vested 310 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,440 interest? 311 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 >> Typically, your property owners is are 312 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:01,920 the ones that are the applicants. Um in 313 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,920 the situation of a mother-daughter, a 314 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,800 lot of times the the daughter or the 315 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,680 mother will file 316 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:07,880 >> her and tell her to come out and look. 317 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,280 >> or 318 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,520 uh or we'll have like a um if it's not 319 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,120 the owner of the property, if it's a is 320 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,520 like a rental property, then we'll have 321 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,040 a note note a letter from the property 322 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,960 owner giving the applicant permission to move forward on that. 323 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,000 >> Okay, just making sure cuz formality is 324 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,320 legality in the end. 325 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,280 >> Yeah, I had asked Mr. Holcomb early on 326 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,080 and it's not a problem to include her. 327 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,720 She just She works all day at a hospital 328 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,240 and has two kids under three. 329 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,640 >> So, you've had 330 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,880 ownership of the residence, your 331 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,040 daughter has had ownership of the 332 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,720 residence since 2021, right? 333 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,440 >> Um has anything fundamentally changed 334 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,800 about the property itself, about 335 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,880 >> No, but when Aaron moved out, 336 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,880 uh she didn't have a dog and didn't have 337 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,120 hearing problem anymore. That was my 338 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:50,840 older daughter. 339 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,160 >> Sure. 340 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,560 >> There was a gentleman that did live 341 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:53,320 there 342 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,000 >> Mhm. 343 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,520 >> for a couple of years and we we just 344 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,160 kind of decided that it was time for 345 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,160 Avery to be on her own and 346 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,480 >> Sure. 347 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,960 >> He was a friend and we gave him notice 348 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,360 and we just tried to make some changes. 349 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,240 We did, you know, some tree work and 350 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,240 fence work and 351 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,320 stuff to try to upgrade it and make it 352 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,840 better for her. Did we did the inside. 353 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,600 >> Okay. 354 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,240 >> So, your daughter's the only one that 355 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:15,920 lives there? 356 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,840 >> Mhm. 357 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,640 >> I drove by and there was a lot of cars 358 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:18,840 out there. 359 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,480 >> Oh, she must have been partying. No, 360 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,720 that's next door. Um gentleman Brooklyn 361 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,080 that live next door and and they park a 362 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,440 lot of cars across the street in that 363 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,640 empty lot. I I believe they've already 364 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,680 been notified from somebody to move 365 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,640 them, but I'm just saying I don't we 366 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,160 don't run a car lot. We don't 367 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,280 She has she currently has an orange 368 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,160 vehicle and she has a Jeep that is in 369 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,720 the garage where I live that just needs 370 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,600 to eventually become her property. 371 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,120 >> Well, looking at the pictures that 372 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,600 you're up on 373 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,080 concrete blocks. How are you going to 374 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,720 use that as a garage? 375 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,560 >> It's it's not it's almost level on the 376 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:56,720 other end and they say it will hold the 377 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,839 weight. 378 00:12:58,839 --> 00:13:00,839 I would get it peered. You know, have 379 00:13:00,839 --> 00:13:02,200 the the piers drilled and have it 380 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,800 anchored down. 381 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,200 But they swear it would hold the weight. 382 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,680 And I I you know, I'm here's the thing. 383 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:11,280 I'm a single mom household 384 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,839 and if you gentlemen have any kind of 385 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:16,400 direction for me, I'd gladly take it. I 386 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,440 might be in over my head. 387 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,560 But I'm just going by what the shed 388 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,480 salesman told me is that it would act as 389 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,000 a garage and hold. 390 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 >> Right. I just at this point I just don't 391 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,520 see how it would be used as a garage 392 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,800 because it's about a foot off the 393 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,080 ground. 394 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,600 >> On this end, yes. 395 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,320 >> Yeah, where the garage would actually be 396 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,120 is what it's 397 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,280 >> No, on the north end on the south end by 398 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,720 the alley is where the garage door would 399 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,240 be. 400 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,400 >> Right, which it's 401 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,640 >> off the ground at all on that end. It 402 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,640 slopes up to about 13 in I think on that 403 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,000 north end. 404 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,560 >> Okay. 405 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,800 Well, it shows on there that the 406 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,040 um 407 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,280 you put it on that one side because the utilities going on that one side. 408 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,760 >> from the corner to the corner. And I 409 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,760 know that at Mr. Swift's house, the gas 410 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,560 line the the meter itself is on the 411 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:09,000 front side of the house. On this little 412 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,320 house, the meter is on the west side. 413 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,760 So, it comes straight up the back. 414 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,480 Right there to the back corner of the 415 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,040 house like it passes in the middle between [snorts] 416 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,600 the shed and the house. 417 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,360 >> So, the way it's setting, it's not um 418 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,240 I mean, as far as the the offset and 419 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,040 everything is good. The only the only 420 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,920 problem that we have now is the size. 421 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,960 So, it's supposed to be 422 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,640 um 423 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,040 >> Approximate 424 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,040 >> 4% of the square footage of the lot 425 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,280 >> Correct. 426 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,560 >> or 10% of the square footage of the 427 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,680 house. 428 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Um if you do that, it's at 280 square 429 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 feet for the structure. 430 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,760 >> Correct. 431 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,960 >> And we're at 480. 432 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,640 >> that now, yes. 433 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:55,190 >> So. 434 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,120 The 435 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Let's see. There was another question. 436 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,550 So, when I mean 437 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 when did you intend on putting a garage 438 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,680 door and all that or is that just 439 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,640 something that you're changing now to make it qualify or try to qualify or 440 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,240 >> No, no, no, no, no. 441 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Um 442 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,440 this cost me $1,000 to be here today. 443 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,440 Just for the permits and the the mailing 444 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,280 labels and things like that. That's a 445 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,040 little bit of a setback. 446 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,360 Um I've I've had a couple other 447 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,240 financial setbacks, but the first thing 448 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,040 I would need to do would check on what 449 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,360 permits need to happen first. I hope to 450 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,080 have a garage door and some electric 451 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,160 taken care of by September. 452 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,000 I mean, reality that's just a couple of 453 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,200 paychecks for me. 454 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,440 >> Right. 455 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,990 >> You know. 456 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,400 Before bad weather for sure. 457 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,560 >> Right. 458 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,160 So, like I said, the board mem- the 459 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,240 board must determine three uh if there 460 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 are extraordinary conditions relating to 461 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,640 the property due to size, shape, or 462 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,000 topography. The lot is 6998 463 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,440 sq ft and has a standard rectangular 464 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,400 shape 465 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,840 typical to this area. Um 466 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,680 the applicant has stated that the size 467 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,400 and location is due to the necessary due 468 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,480 to the 469 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,040 uh underground utilities. Now, 470 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,600 I mean, 471 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,920 the where the utilities are at are not 472 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,680 going to 473 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,000 where we place it's not going to solve 474 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,600 the problem of it being too big. 475 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,040 >> Correct. 476 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,560 >> Um 477 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,320 you've got the 478 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,400 >> That's why I guess the variance that I'm 479 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,720 asking for is the size. 480 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,160 >> Correct. Correct. 481 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:38,800 And I mean, it was put there before the permit was applied for or we didn't 482 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,080 know 483 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,560 >> Yes. 484 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 >> immediately that it was too big. 485 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,760 >> It happened a little faster than I 486 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,280 expected and 487 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,400 ice storm. I had it was in Omaha that 488 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,839 weekend and 489 00:16:48,839 --> 00:16:50,280 three people in the car came back with 490 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,000 the flu. 491 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,400 >> Yeah. 492 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,120 >> And then I had an orange notice already. 493 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,680 So, yes, I should have applied for the 494 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,880 permit before I purchased the shed. I 495 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,839 honestly wasn't very familiar with the 496 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:02,466 process to begin with. So, my ignorance 497 00:17:02,466 --> 00:17:03,880 [clears throat] got me in this position. 498 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,600 I do apologize. 499 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,439 >> Right. 500 00:17:06,439 --> 00:17:07,760 >> But then you went ahead and put the 501 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,839 fence up around it even though we were 502 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:11,079 still dealing with this. 503 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:12,720 >> Only because of the dog and I got 504 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,520 permission to do that and I changed 505 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,000 contractors and everything. I just 506 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,240 needed to be able to let her let the dog 507 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,280 out in the backyard because it's nobody 508 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,920 wants a a big dog running around the 509 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,120 front, especially here's renters. 510 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,640 >> But didn't they have to remove a fence 511 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,000 to put this fence up? 512 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,760 >> Well, the fence was already taken down 513 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,080 because we was in the process of redoing 514 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,200 the fence. The guys were taking it down. 515 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,480 And 516 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,760 >> Okay, I'm just trying to make sure I 517 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,360 understand. I'm not trying to badger. I 518 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,480 just want you to know that I'm not 519 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,280 trying to 520 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,240 so 521 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,080 You check the fence 522 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,680 >> panels would have to be taken down to 523 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,240 move the shed out. That's not a problem. 524 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Fence guys know my situation. I sure. I 525 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,120 changed fence companies to do what the 526 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:56,040 city I mean I I just did everything that 527 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,440 I thought I was supposed to do because 528 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,680 that that was another 529 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,880 um uneducated decision when I picked the 530 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,160 first fence guy. He's the one who said 531 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,600 we're going back in the same footprint. 532 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,760 I don't think you'll need a permit and I said well, we're not even there yet. 533 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,160 It was mid-January. He was going to take 534 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,200 down some trees and stuff for me and all 535 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,320 of a sudden I came back one day and the 536 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,200 fence was gone legit. I have messages 537 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,960 that prove that. I apologize. But so I 538 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,960 had to I we never even talked to him 539 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,960 again. He never did any more work. He 540 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,360 wasn't the one who put the fence back 541 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:30,440 up. So the fence got taken down by the 542 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,880 contractor we did not end up using. 543 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,520 And I'd already paid him half, but I had 544 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,720 to just let him go. And then when I 545 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,120 found a different fence company that 546 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,880 we got the permit with and everything. 547 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,360 We he understands that there is a 548 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,000 possibility we might have to take the 549 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,790 two back corners off. 550 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,190 » Okay. 551 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,910 Mhm. 552 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,470 Do we want 553 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Okay. 554 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,160 Um do we have anybody else here that 555 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,320 wants to talk about the structure? 556 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,600 >> Yes, I did. 557 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,120 >> Go ahead. 558 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,120 >> Thank you, Mrs. Smith. 559 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:07,720 >> Mhm. 560 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:16,190 >> Oh, I'm sorry. 561 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,270 » Um 562 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,320 This is not a storage shed. 563 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,200 >> Could you 564 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,680 I'm sorry. Sorry. Could you state your 565 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,040 name and address for the record? 566 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,920 >> Nick Swift. 567 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,360 302 South Holly Avenue. 568 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,400 Right over there. 569 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,560 All right. To begin with, this is not a 570 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,400 storage shed. This is not a garage. 571 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,200 If she's going to put a garage door on 572 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,480 the back of this, she'll have to move 573 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,200 the central heat and air unit that's 574 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,600 there. 575 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,800 If you look at this, you'll see a unit 576 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,920 an air conditioning unit there. 577 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,760 It was never meant to be used as a 578 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,040 garage. It was meant to be used as a 579 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,760 house. 580 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,880 Now, I don't have any problems with 581 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,720 duplexes and two houses on one lot. 582 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,480 But, I have a problem with this. 583 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:12,910 Now, if this structure 584 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,520 is finished on the inside 585 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,680 with sheetrock or whatever 586 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,440 and has been plumbed and wired, 587 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,440 that's a house. 588 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,600 No one from the City of Yukon inspected 589 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,760 that and gave approval to cover up the 590 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,960 walls. You can't do that. This part You 591 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,560 know that. 592 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,280 And so, I'm opposed to having it there. 593 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:42,630 I'd like to see it gone. 594 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Now, I've I'm heavily The Swift family's 595 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,920 heavily invested in that part of town. 596 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Okay? 597 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,480 We have houses 598 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,120 at 219 Birch, 229 Birch, 599 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,840 124 Birch, 600 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,240 130 Birch, 124 North First, 125 North 601 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,480 First, 602 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,440 230 Ash, 603 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,160 205 North Third, 208 Ash. 604 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,480 Uh and we got a couple more in this in 605 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,520 that part of town. We are heavily 606 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,920 invested. That is a big investment. 607 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,960 Okay? 608 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,400 And I'd like to see the prices kept up. 609 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,880 These distractions like this doesn't 610 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,200 help our neighborhood one bit. 611 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Now, I doubt if anybody here 612 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,640 uh 613 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,360 has property in that area. 614 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:40,280 But uh I'm concerned about it. 615 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,920 We've got two houses 616 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,400 that will ultimately be torn down. 617 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,480 Now, we can't tear them down 618 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,480 till the people move out cuz we're not 619 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,920 going to 620 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,760 put somebody out homeless. 621 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,200 And um 622 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,520 and one guy, 623 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,640 he won't die on me, so 624 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840 I'm stuck with him and he'll probably 625 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,200 outlive me. 626 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,360 But that's 627 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:11,080 neither here nor there. 628 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,120 I don't want to see this. I think this 629 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,640 is wrong 630 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,040 and I'm not going to say any more. I 631 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,200 just like to have it removed. 632 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,720 >> So, Mr. Swift, if I understand, your 633 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,560 primary concern is you're afraid that 634 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,040 this is a going to be constructed as an 635 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000 additional dwelling unit, not as a 636 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,880 garage or storage facility. 637 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,240 >> Can you speak without that thing? 638 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,640 >> Sure. So, are you you're what I hear you 639 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,360 saying is that your primary concern is 640 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:37,920 that this is going to be turned into an 641 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,280 additional dwelling unit, not not as a 642 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,600 storage facility as described in the 643 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,760 permit. 644 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,840 >> It's still a unit, isn't it? 645 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,800 >> Okay. 646 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,240 Do you Have you seen the inside being 647 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,920 finished out? 648 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,200 Okay, so you've not seen any 649 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,880 construction of that sort. That's an 650 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,160 assumption at this point. Okay. 651 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,320 >> finished on the inside. 652 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,200 Then it's a it's a structure. 653 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,680 >> Sure. 654 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,440 >> And judging from the fact that there's 655 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,360 an air conditioning unit sitting on the 656 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,560 outside, I would say that's what it is. 657 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,040 >> Okay. 658 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,800 >> And it's a house. 659 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,120 >> Okay. 660 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,120 >> Um 661 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,400 and I'm I'm just not really pleased with 662 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,080 this. 663 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,480 >> Okay. 664 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,560 >> If you let her do that, can I do it? 665 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,920 Cuz I own a bunch of property. 666 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,640 And I can put one of these on every 667 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,000 piece of piece of property that I have, 668 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,320 and I've got a bunch. 669 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,160 And um I mean, if we're going to do it 670 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,160 to the north side of town, can I do it 671 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,840 in my neighborhood? 672 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,280 >> Right. 673 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,440 >> I mean, the houses are right off the 674 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,600 Interstate 10, whatever it is. That's 675 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,600 just a fraction of what we own. 676 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,920 houses all over Yucaipa. 677 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,480 >> Right. 678 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,680 >> And I I don't want to see this. I'd like 679 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,240 to I own probably two houses on my lot. 680 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,120 And I hope to do that. I'm doing a 681 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,440 duplex now. 682 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,760 >> Mhm. 683 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,240 >> I will be. 684 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,160 And in that area, north of McDonald's. 685 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,640 And I'd like to see 686 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,720 that 687 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,440 fine [snorts] building going up. I don't 688 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,600 want to see more homes. 689 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720 >> Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Swift. 690 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,840 >> Would you like to get up and speak? 691 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000 >> Um absolutely. I'm sorry that you feel 692 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,640 that way, Mr. Swift. The inside is not 693 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,960 finished. Nothing is finished about it. 694 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,000 And unfortunately, Green Country Sheds 695 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,880 sold it to me with what they called a 696 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,280 mini split. I didn't even know what the 697 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,040 mini split was. I was just looking for 698 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,200 a a larger storage unit that would give 699 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,840 me some square footage. And actually, 700 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,880 your house next door has a 20 by 20 701 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,800 building. And another one has a 24 by 24 702 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,240 building. But I can't ask for a 24 703 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,240 >> Would you speak to us? 704 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,480 >> for a 24 by 24 because I I can't because 705 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520 of the gas line. 706 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720 And I paid for a brand new fence between 707 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,880 our houses and stuff. So, I'm doing 708 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,720 nothing but trying to make it look 709 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,440 better to match his nice new 710 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,360 construction. I would gladly 711 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,160 maybe have 712 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,800 I don't I can't even say that cuz I 713 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,960 don't know where to begin to build 714 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,800 something from the ground up. So, it 715 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,440 seemed like a better deal to 716 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,000 buy a prefabricated building. 717 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,960 >> So, it's not finished on the inside. 718 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Does it It's not attached to electricity 719 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,840 or plumbing? 720 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,880 >> Absolutely not. 721 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,360 Now, like I said, depending on the 722 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,360 garage door, but if that isn't a break 723 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,640 it kind of deal, I'll get a manual 724 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,800 garage door for it. I mean, ideally, I 725 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,920 would like to have a remote for her, but 726 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,120 she has to get out and open the gate 727 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:25,800 anyway, so 728 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600 you know, but there there is no electric 729 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,200 and no water ran to it and nothing 730 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,640 inside is finished. 731 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,640 >> Okay, thank you so much. 732 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,040 So, 733 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,560 speaking from a staff perspective, 734 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,880 the UDC does not make a differentiation 735 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 regarding accessory structures when it 736 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,200 comes to garages. So, we do not have 737 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840 anything in the code that states that 738 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,360 detached garages can be larger than 739 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,960 what's allowable for the accessory 740 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,360 structures. So, it's either 4% of the 741 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,520 square footage of the lot or 10% of the 742 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,480 square footage of the primary structure, 743 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,160 whichever is greater. 744 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,000 You can't have more than 40% of the lot 745 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,160 covered with structures. 746 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,760 So, that's where it gets confusing 747 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080 because it states your lot coverage can 748 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,040 only be up to 40%, but then there's 749 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 these other percentages thrown in there 750 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,600 as well. 751 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,400 And so, when it comes to speaking about 752 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,720 there's not an additional allowance for 753 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,520 a greater square footage or a greater 754 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,520 footprint. Um and 755 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600 that's speaking to the code that exists 756 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,880 now as it is written in or as it was 757 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,360 written in 2023, 758 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,920 we can't speak about what else was built 759 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,280 in the area or when it was built because 760 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960 this has to do with this permit for this 761 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,080 particular piece of property and for the 762 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,520 exact code as it reads now. So, just to 763 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,000 differentiate it doesn't it's it does 764 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,480 not matter if it's a garage, if it is 765 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,320 detached from the house, it's considered 766 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,720 an accessory structure, and that 767 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,240 accessory structure has to meet the 768 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,320 percentage requirements in the code. 769 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,360 >> Thank you. 770 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,480 >> Joe Horn, 102 South 5th. Uh this isn't a 771 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,120 garage. If uh 772 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:14,720 if if it's a garage, are you going to 773 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,520 pour concrete [snorts] 774 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,960 uh up to it? 775 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 It's it's a foot off the ground, and 776 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,280 there's an air conditioning unit that 777 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,600 sits uh 778 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280 sits where your supposed garage door 779 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720 would be. It's not a garage. 780 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,880 Uh if you want a parking, put a carport 781 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,400 up. I'm sure you'd give uh approval for 782 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,840 that. 783 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,960 Um 784 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,720 it's it's too big. I don't want it 785 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,880 there. 786 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Um 787 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,190 I think it's a bad thing. 788 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,080 » So, I think the the biggest issue we got 789 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,880 now is just it's oversized, and it 790 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,400 doesn't fit the criteria of or the code 791 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,400 of 4% of the square footage of the lot 792 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,160 or 10% of the the 793 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 house square footage. 794 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,120 Anybody else have anything to say? 795 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,480 >> Well, I've been listening to what 796 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 everybody says, and I appreciate the 797 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 emotions and the wanting to take care of 798 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,000 everything and everyone in your own 799 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040 property. And as a broker, I totally 800 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,440 understand property values and wanting 801 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760 them to be better and wanting everybody 802 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,000 to have a place for all of their 803 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,720 belongings. 804 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,760 I'm going down the list of what we as a 805 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,640 committee are told, these are what we 806 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,160 have to do. 807 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,240 And on number one, are there 808 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,320 extraordinary and exceptional conditions 809 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,120 pertaining to the particular piece of 810 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,360 property in question because of size, 811 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160 shape, or topography? The answer's no. 812 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320 It's still the same lot size, the same 813 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,240 topography as when it was purchased in 814 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440 2021. 815 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Um is the application of this ordinance 816 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,600 to this particular piece of property 817 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,080 creating an unnecessary hardship not 818 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,840 self-imposed by the owner or developer? 819 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120 The building itself violates the 820 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080 ordinance and that is the hardship. 821 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,480 But as far as that is a self-imposed, I 822 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,880 understand that you didn't understand. 823 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,480 But that's still a self considered a 824 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160 self-imposed hardship. 825 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,360 Um are these conditions peculiar only to 826 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,240 this particular piece of property 827 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,480 involved? It is an infield piece, an 828 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,400 interior lot, it's not 829 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,120 uh it's not a trapezoid, it's not on a 830 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,480 weird cul-de-sac, it's common to the lot sizes in that 831 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600 neighborhood and on that street. So, the 832 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120 answer there is no. 833 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,520 I don't I do not find that this 834 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,520 particular 835 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,920 situation calls for a variance. I wish I 836 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,680 could find a way to do it, but I just I 837 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,120 cannot. 838 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,520 And so, I'm going to make the motion 839 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680 that we deny this. 840 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,440 Um 841 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,000 >> I second. 842 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080 >> Specifically as is written in our 843 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,120 packet. I will read that for the record. 844 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,000 In the case of the variance application 845 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,960 by Rhonda Smith, we have read the staff 846 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840 report, we have received the testimony 847 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,560 at the public hearing, we find that the 848 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,760 request does not satisfy the required 849 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,320 variance criteria. I move to deny the 850 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,920 variance request from the accessory 851 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 structure standards in the unified 852 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,640 development code. 853 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Is there a second for that? 854 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,400 >> I second it. 855 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,750 >> Call for vote. 856 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,400 » Floyd. 857 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,840 Denied. 858 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,680 Sharp. 859 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,000 >> Denied. 860 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,840 >> Cohn nine. 861 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:47,230 >> Denied. 862 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,680 » Okay. 863 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,480 As we move on to item four 864 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,600 >> Correct. 865 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,480 >> It is elect [clears throat] a new board 866 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040 of adjustments chair. 867 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Do you have any nominations? 868 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,400 >> Yes, ma'am. 869 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400 >> I'm sorry, I have 870 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,640 a few questions. 871 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,240 >> Mhm. 872 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,040 >> Um so I understood that it is denied. Is 873 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,800 Can we talk about a time frame that I 874 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960 have to have it moved? 875 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,680 I'm going to try to sell it. I 876 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,160 >> So what we would do 877 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,760 >> a trailer for it. So either getting the 878 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,880 trailer is going to take a little bit of 879 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,280 time as well. 880 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,680 Um transportation companies are about 881 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,000 six weeks out. 882 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,840 >> So we discussed this today if this were 883 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,480 the scenario that you you faced. 884 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,120 Uh I've instructed the code enforcement 885 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,720 department to send a a proper uh 30-day 886 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,880 letter to you for the next hearing 887 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 to meet with our administration to get 888 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,920 instruction on how many days the 889 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,960 administration will allow you 890 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,640 uh that process. So you should be 891 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,880 receiving a letter after today sometime 892 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,480 in the next week 893 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,840 uh explaining what the next step would 894 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,320 be and that would be to attend an 895 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600 administrative hearing to discuss those 896 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 actual uh with our city manager. 897 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:55,960 >> All right. Thank you. 898 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:03,350 >> Absolutely. 899 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Okay, item four is elect a board of 900 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880 adjustments chairman. Anybody have 901 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,230 nominations? 902 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,440 » You've two been here a lot longer than 903 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,582 me. 904 00:32:13,582 --> 00:32:18,710 >> [laughter] 905 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,040 » I I nominate Carey. 906 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,160 Do I have a second? 907 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,600 >> I second. 908 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,120 >> I accept. 909 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,160 >> You take a vote. 910 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,480 >> How do we vote? 911 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320 >> Do we need to vote on that? Yep. 912 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,440 >> We do need to vote. Yes. 913 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,160 >> Yep. 914 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,840 >> Uh Conine 915 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,560 >> Yes. 916 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,080 >> Floyd 917 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,680 >> Yes. 918 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,440 >> Sharp? 919 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360 >> Of course. 920 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400 >> Item five is to elect a Board of 921 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760 Adjustments vice chairman. 922 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,840 Any nominations? 923 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280 >> I think Mr. Floyd's doing a great job as 924 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,080 vice chairman. 925 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,920 >> I second. 926 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,192 >> I accept. 927 00:32:54,192 --> 00:32:54,320 >> [snorts] 928 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,470 >> Call for vote. 929 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,440 » Sharp? 930 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,400 >> Yes. 931 00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,920 >> Floyd? 932 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:00,600 >> Yes. 933 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,120 >> Conine? 934 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,240 >> Yes. 935 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,000 >> Okay, item six, any new business? 936 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,360 >> None tonight. 937 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,040 >> No new business. 938 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,670 Uh item seven is open discussion. 939 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,960 » Thank you gentlemen for coming tonight. 940 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,920 >> Thank you. 941 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,320 >> I appreciate the staff report in its 942 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,160 entirety. It was very concise. It was 943 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,800 easy to understand. So, thank you for 944 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,440 that. All of you. 945 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,360 And and the quick action by code enforcement in 946 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400 getting this where it it needed to be. 947 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,790 So, thank you for that. 948 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,400 » Do I need a motion to adjourn? 949 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,600 >> No, you can. 950 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,720 just adjourn. You don't need 951 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,520 necessarily need a motion. 952 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,120 >> Item eight is adjournment. 953 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840 >> All right.