Um
I guess the first thing on it is item
one. Do I have a motion to approve the
minutes from March 2nd?
>> Can I make the roll call first?
>> Oh.
>> Yes, I thought so.
» Do we do roll call first?
» These things here.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.
» You can do roll call or you can do the
invocation, however you want to do it.
>> Let's do roll call.
>> Okay.
Mark Co9.
>> Here.
>> Kenneth Floyd.
>> Here.
>> Kerry Sharp.
>> Here.
>> Buddy Carpenter.
Jeff Schwaller.
» Now item one.
>> No, now the invocation and the flag
salute.
>> Oh, okay. Who's doing that?
>> So, who's doing our invocation today?
Anyone can.
>> Okay.
>> Sure.
Let's go ahead and stand and do our flag
salute and our invocation.
Attention. Salute. Pledge.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America
and to the republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible with
liberty and justice for all.
» Prepare yourself in the manner in which
you are accustomed.
We just come to you today, Lord, to ask
you to
>> turn your machines up a little bit?
Some of us are old.
>> How about I pull it Does this work? I
pulled it a little closer.
>> Well, yeah.
>> Okay.
We just come to you today, Lord, and we
ask that you please bring us a
sense of peace
and of unity as we
go through this Board of Adjustments
meeting and as we do what we feel is
best for the community.
May you would uh
continue to give peace as we leave here
tonight. In your name I pray. Amen.
>> Amen.
Okay, so
do I have a motion to approve the
minutes from March 2nd, the regular
meeting?
>> So moved.
>> Second.
>> I call the question.
>> Second.
» Co9.
» Is there any discussion or
No.
>> Okay.
>> Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
>> You're good. You're good.
>> Co9.
» [snorts]
>> Yay.
>> Floyd.
>> Yes.
>> Sharp.
>> Yes.
» Item two um is visitors. If anybody has
uh anything to get up and talk about.
No discussion?
>> I can't hear a word you're saying.
» We're in the visitor's section. I was
just wondering if there's anybody wanted
to get up and say anything for the
visitors.
No discussions?
>> Uh discuss the part
>> Just visitor discussions.
>> Oh.
>> If you want to get up and talk about
whatever.
>> It would be for non-agenda item for the
visitor section.
» [cough and clears throat]
>> Item number three is
Board of Adjustments 2026-03
to hear the request from Rhonda Smith
for a variance from standards in the
Unified Development Code for an
accessory structure size
at 204 Ash Avenue.
>> Yes, sir.
Mrs. Smith?
>> Yes. is Horn Howery. Um
I don't know what I was going
>> Name and address, please.
>> My name is Rhonda Smith. I reside at
4415
Amethyst Circle, Yukon, Oklahoma.
Do I just start talking?
>> Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.
>> Um
I would like to apologize for not
going about this in a different manner.
[snorts]
I should have received a permit first.
It was
odd circumstances. I went to pick out
the shed. I talked about the what I
needed it for. The guy says, "This is a
better size." I tried to look at the
ordinances online. I misread. I
misunderstood completely a percentage.
Part of that was because the where the
lot is, the front half belongs to the
city easement. So, there was a little
bit of discrepancy in in my square
footage calculation. Moving forward, I
thought it was going to take X amount of
weeks to complete the shed. We have a
snowstorm.
I'm going out of town. They call me and
say, "Hey, we have your shed to be
delivered." I'm like, "Oh my goodness."
So, I hurry and I I take care of it, but
it's a snowstorm and the city offices
are closed. So, I don't get the permit
before the shed was placed in the yard.
I then come home with a terrible case of
the flu. In the meantime, we have a stop
work sign already up. So, I didn't do
anything for a long time until we got
the fence and everything situated. So,
why we bought the shed.
My older daughter owns the house. She's
upgraded and lives elsewhere in Yukon.
My younger daughter, Avery,
is 24. She is hearing impaired. She
wears cochlear implants.
She has a service dog named Goldie,
who's a golden retriever. She weighs 70
lb. Avery barely weighs 90.
And that little house, this is the first
time she's tried to live on her own. So,
she's living in her sister's rent house.
Um there's no garage.
Starting her car in the winter time,
letting it run outside, it's a little
awkward when you can't hear what's going
on. She couldn't hear her alarms if it
went off, you know. Just some things,
safe safety reasons. Um, square footage
for a garage. She inherited her
brother's Jeep when he passed away a
couple years back. So, she has a Jeep
that she would like to store and she has
a cute little vehicle that she drives
daily. So, to put two vehicles end to
end and have some space for a dog wash
bay and some lawn mower equipment, you
know. That's all we're asking for. I was
wrong in the square footage and I really
apologize. However, I can't go to the
standard 24 by 24 double car garage
because of where the gas easement is.
I've with all my boundaries from the
fence line, from the property line. I
mean, I've I I really tried to do
everything correctly.
And we haven't been back inside the shed
since this the orange notices have been
put on it. But, if it is approved, the
first thing I would need to do would be to get a gravel approach put on
the back side and a garage door. But,
everything would be contained inside the
fence. If anything, it betters our
property value and I believe these
gentlemen have rental property nearby.
And I just want to everybody to
understand it's not going to be a rental
property or a residence. It won't
generate any income. No business, just
simply safety and car storage for this
little bitty house that the closets are
2 ft. So, she turned the second bedroom
into a closet. But, now she's got
holiday stuff and she's got a dog kennel
and a barbecue grill, you know. Things
that I thought I was just trying to help
her by get a garage. I don't know. I
just need you guys to
understand where I'm coming from and I
didn't mean to create a hardship for
anybody, but I tried every possible way
after the notice to I called I
transportation company's not a
I don't have anywhere to move it to.
I've called multiple storage units that
tell me it has to be on wheels. My next
option would be to have to build out a
flatbed trailer and have it lifted up
and put on wheels just to store it
somewhere until I can get it sold.
Um
I I don't know what else I need to say.
I just it it's not rental, it's not
income generating, no one's going to
live in it. She just needs to store a
couple of small vehicles and some yard
equipment and later down the line have a
dog wash bay and
you know, an extension of an outdoor
patio maybe if we could put a set of
garage doors on the opposite end. But
right now she just needs a place to park
her car and we need to have her
lawnmower over there. I can't put a
lawnmower in it until I get an approach
put there. So,
you know, my son-in-law has been coming
back and forth trying to keep it mowed
for me and he's over there mowing it
today, but it's you know, we're going to
paint the outside of the house to match
the shed. I don't think it
looks bad. I sent I gave pictures
to everybody. Do you all have any
questions for me?
>> So, I do have a question. I went by
there a couple days ago and then today
and I noticed the picture that you sent
in has a garage door in the back and
obviously does not have one now.
>> not at all. Not at all. It's just
[clears throat] a shed, but I have
prices for a garage door and I would
have to have a permit for that and and
all of that stuff I understand, but no,
it is simply just the hole that got set
there and I was sick with the flu and
then you guys put the stop notice signs
on. So, nothing else has been done.
>> I actually have pictures of the current
where it currently sits from today. So,
if I'm going to go ahead and pass those
out.
>> And then I I I think I included a
picture of if it's improved, this is
what it would look like.
>> Rendering rendering
>> with the garage door and a small gravel
approach. You know, there's some other
locations that back up to the alley that
the garages aren't necessarily fenced in
and they cars parked in yards. I mean,
I'm just trying to do what looks good
and is safe.
>> If anybody in the audience would like a
photos of what was taken this morning.
>> Driving by today, I did notice that it
does have an air conditioner on the back
where the garage door was.
>> just electrician just have to take that
off and I would ultimately speaking the
garage door itself is about $1,800 plus
installation from a reputable company in
town, but it would need I would like for
it to be electric open. So, I'll have to
get some electric done to it, but at
that time they would just move that
little
thing. I don't even know if it's
necessary to keep it.
>> Right. Right. Okay.
>> The heat and air unit?
>> Yeah, just little thing on it.
>> Yeah, it's right there on the back down
>> never been turned it's not hooked to
anything, you know, it's just there.
>> Um
just going through it and and uh looking
at it, it's the board must determine
if there are any extraordinary
conditions related to the property due
to size, shape, and
Is it
>> topography?
Sorry.
>> I did have a couple of questions first.
>> Okay.
>> So, when we're talking about a variance
when it's filed, is it required to be
filed by the property owner or somebody
with a vested interest can file it?
>> It says either or on the application.
>> Okay, and how do we determine vested
interest?
>> Typically, your property owners is are
the ones that are the applicants. Um in
the situation of a mother-daughter, a
lot of times the the daughter or the
mother will file
>> her and tell her to come out and look.
>> or
uh or we'll have like a um if it's not
the owner of the property, if it's a is
like a rental property, then we'll have
a note note a letter from the property
owner giving the applicant permission to move forward on that.
>> Okay, just making sure cuz formality is
legality in the end.
>> Yeah, I had asked Mr. Holcomb early on
and it's not a problem to include her.
She just She works all day at a hospital
and has two kids under three.
>> So, you've had
ownership of the residence, your
daughter has had ownership of the
residence since 2021, right?
>> Um has anything fundamentally changed
about the property itself, about
>> No, but when Aaron moved out,
uh she didn't have a dog and didn't have
hearing problem anymore. That was my
older daughter.
>> Sure.
>> There was a gentleman that did live
there
>> Mhm.
>> for a couple of years and we we just
kind of decided that it was time for
Avery to be on her own and
>> Sure.
>> He was a friend and we gave him notice
and we just tried to make some changes.
We did, you know, some tree work and
fence work and
stuff to try to upgrade it and make it
better for her. Did we did the inside.
>> Okay.
>> So, your daughter's the only one that
lives there?
>> Mhm.
>> I drove by and there was a lot of cars
out there.
>> Oh, she must have been partying. No,
that's next door. Um gentleman Brooklyn
that live next door and and they park a
lot of cars across the street in that
empty lot. I I believe they've already
been notified from somebody to move
them, but I'm just saying I don't we
don't run a car lot. We don't
She has she currently has an orange
vehicle and she has a Jeep that is in
the garage where I live that just needs
to eventually become her property.
>> Well, looking at the pictures that
you're up on
concrete blocks. How are you going to
use that as a garage?
>> It's it's not it's almost level on the
other end and they say it will hold the
weight.
I would get it peered. You know, have
the the piers drilled and have it
anchored down.
But they swear it would hold the weight.
And I I you know, I'm here's the thing.
I'm a single mom household
and if you gentlemen have any kind of
direction for me, I'd gladly take it. I
might be in over my head.
But I'm just going by what the shed
salesman told me is that it would act as
a garage and hold.
>> Right. I just at this point I just don't
see how it would be used as a garage
because it's about a foot off the
ground.
>> On this end, yes.
>> Yeah, where the garage would actually be
is what it's
>> No, on the north end on the south end by
the alley is where the garage door would
be.
>> Right, which it's
>> off the ground at all on that end. It
slopes up to about 13 in I think on that
north end.
>> Okay.
Well, it shows on there that the
um
you put it on that one side because the utilities going on that one side.
>> from the corner to the corner. And I
know that at Mr. Swift's house, the gas
line the the meter itself is on the
front side of the house. On this little
house, the meter is on the west side.
So, it comes straight up the back.
Right there to the back corner of the
house like it passes in the middle between [snorts]
the shed and the house.
>> So, the way it's setting, it's not um
I mean, as far as the the offset and
everything is good. The only the only
problem that we have now is the size.
So, it's supposed to be
um
>> Approximate
>> 4% of the square footage of the lot
>> Correct.
>> or 10% of the square footage of the
house.
Um if you do that, it's at 280 square
feet for the structure.
>> Correct.
>> And we're at 480.
>> that now, yes.
>> So.
The
Let's see. There was another question.
So, when I mean
when did you intend on putting a garage
door and all that or is that just
something that you're changing now to make it qualify or try to qualify or
>> No, no, no, no, no.
Um
this cost me $1,000 to be here today.
Just for the permits and the the mailing
labels and things like that. That's a
little bit of a setback.
Um I've I've had a couple other
financial setbacks, but the first thing
I would need to do would check on what
permits need to happen first. I hope to
have a garage door and some electric
taken care of by September.
I mean, reality that's just a couple of
paychecks for me.
>> Right.
>> You know.
Before bad weather for sure.
>> Right.
So, like I said, the board mem- the
board must determine three uh if there
are extraordinary conditions relating to
the property due to size, shape, or
topography. The lot is 6998
sq ft and has a standard rectangular
shape
typical to this area. Um
the applicant has stated that the size
and location is due to the necessary due
to the
uh underground utilities. Now,
I mean,
the where the utilities are at are not
going to
where we place it's not going to solve
the problem of it being too big.
>> Correct.
>> Um
you've got the
>> That's why I guess the variance that I'm
asking for is the size.
>> Correct. Correct.
And I mean, it was put there before the permit was applied for or we didn't
know
>> Yes.
>> immediately that it was too big.
>> It happened a little faster than I
expected and
ice storm. I had it was in Omaha that
weekend and
three people in the car came back with
the flu.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I had an orange notice already.
So, yes, I should have applied for the
permit before I purchased the shed. I
honestly wasn't very familiar with the
process to begin with. So, my ignorance
[clears throat] got me in this position.
I do apologize.
>> Right.
>> But then you went ahead and put the
fence up around it even though we were
still dealing with this.
>> Only because of the dog and I got
permission to do that and I changed
contractors and everything. I just
needed to be able to let her let the dog
out in the backyard because it's nobody
wants a a big dog running around the
front, especially here's renters.
>> But didn't they have to remove a fence
to put this fence up?
>> Well, the fence was already taken down
because we was in the process of redoing
the fence. The guys were taking it down.
And
>> Okay, I'm just trying to make sure I
understand. I'm not trying to badger. I
just want you to know that I'm not
trying to
so
You check the fence
>> panels would have to be taken down to
move the shed out. That's not a problem.
Fence guys know my situation. I sure. I
changed fence companies to do what the
city I mean I I just did everything that
I thought I was supposed to do because
that that was another
um uneducated decision when I picked the
first fence guy. He's the one who said
we're going back in the same footprint.
I don't think you'll need a permit and I said well, we're not even there yet.
It was mid-January. He was going to take
down some trees and stuff for me and all
of a sudden I came back one day and the
fence was gone legit. I have messages
that prove that. I apologize. But so I
had to I we never even talked to him
again. He never did any more work. He
wasn't the one who put the fence back
up. So the fence got taken down by the
contractor we did not end up using.
And I'd already paid him half, but I had
to just let him go. And then when I
found a different fence company that
we got the permit with and everything.
We he understands that there is a
possibility we might have to take the
two back corners off.
» Okay.
Mhm.
Do we want
Okay.
Um do we have anybody else here that
wants to talk about the structure?
>> Yes, I did.
>> Go ahead.
>> Thank you, Mrs. Smith.
>> Mhm.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.
» Um
This is not a storage shed.
>> Could you
I'm sorry. Sorry. Could you state your
name and address for the record?
>> Nick Swift.
302 South Holly Avenue.
Right over there.
All right. To begin with, this is not a
storage shed. This is not a garage.
If she's going to put a garage door on
the back of this, she'll have to move
the central heat and air unit that's
there.
If you look at this, you'll see a unit
an air conditioning unit there.
It was never meant to be used as a
garage. It was meant to be used as a
house.
Now, I don't have any problems with
duplexes and two houses on one lot.
But, I have a problem with this.
Now, if this structure
is finished on the inside
with sheetrock or whatever
and has been plumbed and wired,
that's a house.
No one from the City of Yukon inspected
that and gave approval to cover up the
walls. You can't do that. This part You
know that.
And so, I'm opposed to having it there.
I'd like to see it gone.
Now, I've I'm heavily The Swift family's
heavily invested in that part of town.
Okay?
We have houses
at 219 Birch, 229 Birch,
124 Birch,
130 Birch, 124 North First, 125 North
First,
230 Ash,
205 North Third, 208 Ash.
Uh and we got a couple more in this in
that part of town. We are heavily
invested. That is a big investment.
Okay?
And I'd like to see the prices kept up.
These distractions like this doesn't
help our neighborhood one bit.
Now, I doubt if anybody here
uh
has property in that area.
But uh I'm concerned about it.
We've got two houses
that will ultimately be torn down.
Now, we can't tear them down
till the people move out cuz we're not
going to
put somebody out homeless.
And um
and one guy,
he won't die on me, so
I'm stuck with him and he'll probably
outlive me.
But that's
neither here nor there.
I don't want to see this. I think this
is wrong
and I'm not going to say any more. I
just like to have it removed.
>> So, Mr. Swift, if I understand, your
primary concern is you're afraid that
this is a going to be constructed as an
additional dwelling unit, not as a
garage or storage facility.
>> Can you speak without that thing?
>> Sure. So, are you you're what I hear you
saying is that your primary concern is
that this is going to be turned into an
additional dwelling unit, not not as a
storage facility as described in the
permit.
>> It's still a unit, isn't it?
>> Okay.
Do you Have you seen the inside being
finished out?
Okay, so you've not seen any
construction of that sort. That's an
assumption at this point. Okay.
>> finished on the inside.
Then it's a it's a structure.
>> Sure.
>> And judging from the fact that there's
an air conditioning unit sitting on the
outside, I would say that's what it is.
>> Okay.
>> And it's a house.
>> Okay.
>> Um
and I'm I'm just not really pleased with
this.
>> Okay.
>> If you let her do that, can I do it?
Cuz I own a bunch of property.
And I can put one of these on every
piece of piece of property that I have,
and I've got a bunch.
And um I mean, if we're going to do it
to the north side of town, can I do it
in my neighborhood?
>> Right.
>> I mean, the houses are right off the
Interstate 10, whatever it is. That's
just a fraction of what we own.
houses all over Yucaipa.
>> Right.
>> And I I don't want to see this. I'd like
to I own probably two houses on my lot.
And I hope to do that. I'm doing a
duplex now.
>> Mhm.
>> I will be.
And in that area, north of McDonald's.
And I'd like to see
that
fine [snorts] building going up. I don't
want to see more homes.
>> Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Swift.
>> Would you like to get up and speak?
>> Um absolutely. I'm sorry that you feel
that way, Mr. Swift. The inside is not
finished. Nothing is finished about it.
And unfortunately, Green Country Sheds
sold it to me with what they called a
mini split. I didn't even know what the
mini split was. I was just looking for
a a larger storage unit that would give
me some square footage. And actually,
your house next door has a 20 by 20
building. And another one has a 24 by 24
building. But I can't ask for a 24
>> Would you speak to us?
>> for a 24 by 24 because I I can't because
of the gas line.
And I paid for a brand new fence between
our houses and stuff. So, I'm doing
nothing but trying to make it look
better to match his nice new
construction. I would gladly
maybe have
I don't I can't even say that cuz I
don't know where to begin to build
something from the ground up. So, it
seemed like a better deal to
buy a prefabricated building.
>> So, it's not finished on the inside.
Does it It's not attached to electricity
or plumbing?
>> Absolutely not.
Now, like I said, depending on the
garage door, but if that isn't a break
it kind of deal, I'll get a manual
garage door for it. I mean, ideally, I
would like to have a remote for her, but
she has to get out and open the gate
anyway, so
you know, but there there is no electric
and no water ran to it and nothing
inside is finished.
>> Okay, thank you so much.
So,
speaking from a staff perspective,
the UDC does not make a differentiation
regarding accessory structures when it
comes to garages. So, we do not have
anything in the code that states that
detached garages can be larger than
what's allowable for the accessory
structures. So, it's either 4% of the
square footage of the lot or 10% of the
square footage of the primary structure,
whichever is greater.
You can't have more than 40% of the lot
covered with structures.
So, that's where it gets confusing
because it states your lot coverage can
only be up to 40%, but then there's
these other percentages thrown in there
as well.
And so, when it comes to speaking about
there's not an additional allowance for
a greater square footage or a greater
footprint. Um and
that's speaking to the code that exists
now as it is written in or as it was
written in 2023,
we can't speak about what else was built
in the area or when it was built because
this has to do with this permit for this
particular piece of property and for the
exact code as it reads now. So, just to
differentiate it doesn't it's it does
not matter if it's a garage, if it is
detached from the house, it's considered
an accessory structure, and that
accessory structure has to meet the
percentage requirements in the code.
>> Thank you.
>> Joe Horn, 102 South 5th. Uh this isn't a
garage. If uh
if if it's a garage, are you going to
pour concrete [snorts]
uh up to it?
It's it's a foot off the ground, and
there's an air conditioning unit that
sits uh
sits where your supposed garage door
would be. It's not a garage.
Uh if you want a parking, put a carport
up. I'm sure you'd give uh approval for
that.
Um
it's it's too big. I don't want it
there.
Um
I think it's a bad thing.
» So, I think the the biggest issue we got
now is just it's oversized, and it
doesn't fit the criteria of or the code
of 4% of the square footage of the lot
or 10% of the the
house square footage.
Anybody else have anything to say?
>> Well, I've been listening to what
everybody says, and I appreciate the
emotions and the wanting to take care of
everything and everyone in your own
property. And as a broker, I totally
understand property values and wanting
them to be better and wanting everybody
to have a place for all of their
belongings.
I'm going down the list of what we as a
committee are told, these are what we
have to do.
And on number one, are there
extraordinary and exceptional conditions
pertaining to the particular piece of
property in question because of size,
shape, or topography? The answer's no.
It's still the same lot size, the same
topography as when it was purchased in
2021.
Um is the application of this ordinance
to this particular piece of property
creating an unnecessary hardship not
self-imposed by the owner or developer?
The building itself violates the
ordinance and that is the hardship.
But as far as that is a self-imposed, I
understand that you didn't understand.
But that's still a self considered a
self-imposed hardship.
Um are these conditions peculiar only to
this particular piece of property
involved? It is an infield piece, an
interior lot, it's not
uh it's not a trapezoid, it's not on a
weird cul-de-sac, it's common to the lot sizes in that
neighborhood and on that street. So, the
answer there is no.
I don't I do not find that this
particular
situation calls for a variance. I wish I
could find a way to do it, but I just I
cannot.
And so, I'm going to make the motion
that we deny this.
Um
>> I second.
>> Specifically as is written in our
packet. I will read that for the record.
In the case of the variance application
by Rhonda Smith, we have read the staff
report, we have received the testimony
at the public hearing, we find that the
request does not satisfy the required
variance criteria. I move to deny the
variance request from the accessory
structure standards in the unified
development code.
Is there a second for that?
>> I second it.
>> Call for vote.
» Floyd.
Denied.
Sharp.
>> Denied.
>> Cohn nine.
>> Denied.
» Okay.
As we move on to item four
>> Correct.
>> It is elect [clears throat] a new board
of adjustments chair.
Do you have any nominations?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> I'm sorry, I have
a few questions.
>> Mhm.
>> Um so I understood that it is denied. Is
Can we talk about a time frame that I
have to have it moved?
I'm going to try to sell it. I
>> So what we would do
>> a trailer for it. So either getting the
trailer is going to take a little bit of
time as well.
Um transportation companies are about
six weeks out.
>> So we discussed this today if this were
the scenario that you you faced.
Uh I've instructed the code enforcement
department to send a a proper uh 30-day
letter to you for the next hearing
to meet with our administration to get
instruction on how many days the
administration will allow you
uh that process. So you should be
receiving a letter after today sometime
in the next week
uh explaining what the next step would
be and that would be to attend an
administrative hearing to discuss those
actual uh with our city manager.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> Absolutely.
Okay, item four is elect a board of
adjustments chairman. Anybody have
nominations?
» You've two been here a lot longer than
me.
>> [laughter]
» I I nominate Carey.
Do I have a second?
>> I second.
>> I accept.
>> You take a vote.
>> How do we vote?
>> Do we need to vote on that? Yep.
>> We do need to vote. Yes.
>> Yep.
>> Uh Conine
>> Yes.
>> Floyd
>> Yes.
>> Sharp?
>> Of course.
>> Item five is to elect a Board of
Adjustments vice chairman.
Any nominations?
>> I think Mr. Floyd's doing a great job as
vice chairman.
>> I second.
>> I accept.
>> [snorts]
>> Call for vote.
» Sharp?
>> Yes.
>> Floyd?
>> Yes.
>> Conine?
>> Yes.
>> Okay, item six, any new business?
>> None tonight.
>> No new business.
Uh item seven is open discussion.
» Thank you gentlemen for coming tonight.
>> Thank you.
>> I appreciate the staff report in its
entirety. It was very concise. It was
easy to understand. So, thank you for
that. All of you.
And and the quick action by code enforcement in
getting this where it it needed to be.
So, thank you for that.
» Do I need a motion to adjourn?
>> No, you can.
just adjourn. You don't need
necessarily need a motion.
>> Item eight is adjournment.
>> All right.