[0:02] Um
[0:04] I guess the first thing on it is item
[0:05] one. Do I have a motion to approve the
[0:08] minutes from March 2nd?
[0:11] >> Can I make the roll call first?
[0:13] >> Oh.
[0:14] >> Yes, I thought so.
[0:17] » Do we do roll call first?
[0:22] » These things here.
[0:23] >> Oh, I'm sorry.
[0:28] » You can do roll call or you can do the
[0:30] invocation, however you want to do it.
[0:32] >> Let's do roll call.
[0:33] >> Okay.
[0:36] Mark Co9.
[0:37] >> Here.
[0:38] >> Kenneth Floyd.
[0:39] >> Here.
[0:40] >> Kerry Sharp.
[0:41] >> Here.
[0:42] >> Buddy Carpenter.
[0:44] Jeff Schwaller.
[0:50] » Now item one.
[0:52] >> No, now the invocation and the flag
[0:54] salute.
[0:54] >> Oh, okay. Who's doing that?
[0:55] >> So, who's doing our invocation today?
[1:00] Anyone can.
[1:01] >> Okay.
[1:02] >> Sure.
[1:05] Let's go ahead and stand and do our flag
[1:07] salute and our invocation.
[1:12] Attention. Salute. Pledge.
[1:15] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[1:17] United States of America
[1:19] and to the republic for which it stands,
[1:22] one nation under God, indivisible with
[1:25] liberty and justice for all.
[1:32] » Prepare yourself in the manner in which
[1:33] you are accustomed.
[1:37] We just come to you today, Lord, to ask
[1:39] you to
[1:40] >> turn your machines up a little bit?
[1:42] Some of us are old.
[1:44] >> How about I pull it Does this work? I
[1:46] pulled it a little closer.
[1:48] >> Well, yeah.
[1:49] >> Okay.
[1:51] We just come to you today, Lord, and we
[1:53] ask that you please bring us a
[1:55] sense of peace
[1:56] and of unity as we
[1:59] go through this Board of Adjustments
[2:01] meeting and as we do what we feel is
[2:03] best for the community.
[2:06] May you would uh
[2:08] continue to give peace as we leave here
[2:10] tonight. In your name I pray. Amen.
[2:12] >> Amen.
[2:18] Okay, so
[2:19] do I have a motion to approve the
[2:20] minutes from March 2nd, the regular
[2:23] meeting?
[2:23] >> So moved.
[2:24] >> Second.
[2:27] >> I call the question.
[2:27] >> Second.
[2:31] » Co9.
[2:34] » Is there any discussion or
[2:38] No.
[2:38] >> Okay.
[2:39] >> Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
[2:40] >> You're good. You're good.
[2:41] >> Co9.
[2:44] » [snorts]
[2:44] >> Yay.
[2:46] >> Floyd.
[2:46] >> Yes.
[2:47] >> Sharp.
[2:47] >> Yes.
[2:51] » Item two um is visitors. If anybody has
[2:55] uh anything to get up and talk about.
[3:01] No discussion?
[3:03] >> I can't hear a word you're saying.
[3:07] » We're in the visitor's section. I was
[3:08] just wondering if there's anybody wanted
[3:10] to get up and say anything for the
[3:11] visitors.
[3:13] No discussions?
[3:16] >> Uh discuss the part
[3:17] >> Just visitor discussions.
[3:20] >> Oh.
[3:20] >> If you want to get up and talk about
[3:22] whatever.
[3:22] >> It would be for non-agenda item for the
[3:24] visitor section.
[3:28] » [cough and clears throat]
[3:29] >> Item number three is
[3:31] Board of Adjustments 2026-03
[3:34] to hear the request from Rhonda Smith
[3:36] for a variance from standards in the
[3:39] Unified Development Code for an
[3:41] accessory structure size
[3:45] at 204 Ash Avenue.
[3:48] >> Yes, sir.
[3:53] Mrs. Smith?
[3:54] >> Yes. is Horn Howery. Um
[3:56] I don't know what I was going
[3:57] >> Name and address, please.
[3:58] >> My name is Rhonda Smith. I reside at
[4:01] 4415
[4:03] Amethyst Circle, Yukon, Oklahoma.
[4:08] Do I just start talking?
[4:09] >> Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.
[4:10] >> Um
[4:11] I would like to apologize for not
[4:13] going about this in a different manner.
[4:16] [snorts]
[4:16] I should have received a permit first.
[4:19] It was
[4:20] odd circumstances. I went to pick out
[4:22] the shed. I talked about the what I
[4:25] needed it for. The guy says, "This is a
[4:27] better size." I tried to look at the
[4:29] ordinances online. I misread. I
[4:31] misunderstood completely a percentage.
[4:35] Part of that was because the where the
[4:37] lot is, the front half belongs to the
[4:41] city easement. So, there was a little
[4:43] bit of discrepancy in in my square
[4:45] footage calculation. Moving forward, I
[4:49] thought it was going to take X amount of
[4:50] weeks to complete the shed. We have a
[4:52] snowstorm.
[4:54] I'm going out of town. They call me and
[4:56] say, "Hey, we have your shed to be
[4:57] delivered." I'm like, "Oh my goodness."
[4:58] So, I hurry and I I take care of it, but
[5:01] it's a snowstorm and the city offices
[5:03] are closed. So, I don't get the permit
[5:04] before the shed was placed in the yard.
[5:07] I then come home with a terrible case of
[5:09] the flu. In the meantime, we have a stop
[5:11] work sign already up. So, I didn't do
[5:14] anything for a long time until we got
[5:16] the fence and everything situated. So,
[5:19] why we bought the shed.
[5:21] My older daughter owns the house. She's
[5:22] upgraded and lives elsewhere in Yukon.
[5:25] My younger daughter, Avery,
[5:27] is 24. She is hearing impaired. She
[5:30] wears cochlear implants.
[5:32] She has a service dog named Goldie,
[5:34] who's a golden retriever. She weighs 70
[5:37] lb. Avery barely weighs 90.
[5:39] And that little house, this is the first
[5:41] time she's tried to live on her own. So,
[5:42] she's living in her sister's rent house.
[5:45] Um there's no garage.
[5:47] Starting her car in the winter time,
[5:48] letting it run outside, it's a little
[5:50] awkward when you can't hear what's going
[5:51] on. She couldn't hear her alarms if it
[5:53] went off, you know. Just some things,
[5:55] safe safety reasons. Um, square footage
[5:58] for a garage. She inherited her
[6:00] brother's Jeep when he passed away a
[6:02] couple years back. So, she has a Jeep
[6:05] that she would like to store and she has
[6:07] a cute little vehicle that she drives
[6:09] daily. So, to put two vehicles end to
[6:11] end and have some space for a dog wash
[6:14] bay and some lawn mower equipment, you
[6:17] know. That's all we're asking for. I was
[6:20] wrong in the square footage and I really
[6:22] apologize. However, I can't go to the
[6:25] standard 24 by 24 double car garage
[6:28] because of where the gas easement is.
[6:30] I've with all my boundaries from the
[6:32] fence line, from the property line. I
[6:34] mean, I've I I really tried to do
[6:36] everything correctly.
[6:38] And we haven't been back inside the shed
[6:40] since this the orange notices have been
[6:41] put on it. But, if it is approved, the
[6:44] first thing I would need to do would be to get a gravel approach put on
[6:47] the back side and a garage door. But,
[6:50] everything would be contained inside the
[6:53] fence. If anything, it betters our
[6:55] property value and I believe these
[6:56] gentlemen have rental property nearby.
[6:59] And I just want to everybody to
[7:01] understand it's not going to be a rental
[7:03] property or a residence. It won't
[7:05] generate any income. No business, just
[7:08] simply safety and car storage for this
[7:12] little bitty house that the closets are
[7:13] 2 ft. So, she turned the second bedroom
[7:16] into a closet. But, now she's got
[7:17] holiday stuff and she's got a dog kennel
[7:20] and a barbecue grill, you know. Things
[7:23] that I thought I was just trying to help
[7:26] her by get a garage. I don't know. I
[7:28] just need you guys to
[7:31] understand where I'm coming from and I
[7:34] didn't mean to create a hardship for
[7:35] anybody, but I tried every possible way
[7:38] after the notice to I called I
[7:41] transportation company's not a
[7:43] I don't have anywhere to move it to.
[7:45] I've called multiple storage units that
[7:47] tell me it has to be on wheels. My next
[7:50] option would be to have to build out a
[7:52] flatbed trailer and have it lifted up
[7:54] and put on wheels just to store it
[7:56] somewhere until I can get it sold.
[7:58] Um
[8:00] I I don't know what else I need to say.
[8:02] I just it it's not rental, it's not
[8:04] income generating, no one's going to
[8:06] live in it. She just needs to store a
[8:08] couple of small vehicles and some yard
[8:10] equipment and later down the line have a
[8:13] dog wash bay and
[8:15] you know, an extension of an outdoor
[8:17] patio maybe if we could put a set of
[8:18] garage doors on the opposite end. But
[8:21] right now she just needs a place to park
[8:22] her car and we need to have her
[8:24] lawnmower over there. I can't put a
[8:26] lawnmower in it until I get an approach
[8:28] put there. So,
[8:30] you know, my son-in-law has been coming
[8:31] back and forth trying to keep it mowed
[8:32] for me and he's over there mowing it
[8:34] today, but it's you know, we're going to
[8:36] paint the outside of the house to match
[8:38] the shed. I don't think it
[8:40] looks bad. I sent I gave pictures
[8:43] to everybody. Do you all have any
[8:44] questions for me?
[8:46] >> So, I do have a question. I went by
[8:48] there a couple days ago and then today
[8:51] and I noticed the picture that you sent
[8:53] in has a garage door in the back and
[8:55] obviously does not have one now.
[8:57] >> not at all. Not at all. It's just
[8:59] [clears throat] a shed, but I have
[9:00] prices for a garage door and I would
[9:01] have to have a permit for that and and
[9:03] all of that stuff I understand, but no,
[9:05] it is simply just the hole that got set
[9:07] there and I was sick with the flu and
[9:09] then you guys put the stop notice signs
[9:11] on. So, nothing else has been done.
[9:13] >> I actually have pictures of the current
[9:15] where it currently sits from today. So,
[9:18] if I'm going to go ahead and pass those
[9:19] out.
[9:19] >> And then I I I think I included a
[9:21] picture of if it's improved, this is
[9:23] what it would look like.
[9:24] >> Rendering rendering
[9:25] >> with the garage door and a small gravel
[9:26] approach. You know, there's some other
[9:28] locations that back up to the alley that
[9:31] the garages aren't necessarily fenced in
[9:33] and they cars parked in yards. I mean,
[9:35] I'm just trying to do what looks good
[9:37] and is safe.
[9:39] >> If anybody in the audience would like a
[9:42] photos of what was taken this morning.
[9:45] >> Driving by today, I did notice that it
[9:47] does have an air conditioner on the back
[9:48] where the garage door was.
[9:50] >> just electrician just have to take that
[9:51] off and I would ultimately speaking the
[9:54] garage door itself is about $1,800 plus
[9:57] installation from a reputable company in
[9:58] town, but it would need I would like for
[10:01] it to be electric open. So, I'll have to
[10:05] get some electric done to it, but at
[10:07] that time they would just move that
[10:08] little
[10:09] thing. I don't even know if it's
[10:10] necessary to keep it.
[10:12] >> Right. Right. Okay.
[10:13] >> The heat and air unit?
[10:14] >> Yeah, just little thing on it.
[10:17] >> Yeah, it's right there on the back down
[10:18] >> never been turned it's not hooked to
[10:20] anything, you know, it's just there.
[10:23] >> Um
[10:24] just going through it and and uh looking
[10:27] at it, it's the board must determine
[10:30] if there are any extraordinary
[10:31] conditions related to the property due
[10:34] to size, shape, and
[10:37] Is it
[10:38] >> topography?
[10:39] Sorry.
[10:40] >> I did have a couple of questions first.
[10:42] >> Okay.
[10:43] >> So, when we're talking about a variance
[10:45] when it's filed, is it required to be
[10:46] filed by the property owner or somebody
[10:49] with a vested interest can file it?
[10:52] >> It says either or on the application.
[10:54] >> Okay, and how do we determine vested
[10:56] interest?
[10:57] >> Typically, your property owners is are
[10:59] the ones that are the applicants. Um in
[11:01] the situation of a mother-daughter, a
[11:03] lot of times the the daughter or the
[11:05] mother will file
[11:06] >> her and tell her to come out and look.
[11:07] >> or
[11:09] uh or we'll have like a um if it's not
[11:11] the owner of the property, if it's a is
[11:13] like a rental property, then we'll have
[11:14] a note note a letter from the property
[11:17] owner giving the applicant permission to move forward on that.
[11:20] >> Okay, just making sure cuz formality is
[11:23] legality in the end.
[11:24] >> Yeah, I had asked Mr. Holcomb early on
[11:26] and it's not a problem to include her.
[11:28] She just She works all day at a hospital
[11:29] and has two kids under three.
[11:31] >> So, you've had
[11:33] ownership of the residence, your
[11:34] daughter has had ownership of the
[11:36] residence since 2021, right?
[11:38] >> Um has anything fundamentally changed
[11:41] about the property itself, about
[11:43] >> No, but when Aaron moved out,
[11:46] uh she didn't have a dog and didn't have
[11:48] hearing problem anymore. That was my
[11:50] older daughter.
[11:50] >> Sure.
[11:51] >> There was a gentleman that did live
[11:52] there
[11:53] >> Mhm.
[11:54] >> for a couple of years and we we just
[11:56] kind of decided that it was time for
[11:58] Avery to be on her own and
[12:00] >> Sure.
[12:00] >> He was a friend and we gave him notice
[12:01] and we just tried to make some changes.
[12:04] We did, you know, some tree work and
[12:06] fence work and
[12:08] stuff to try to upgrade it and make it
[12:10] better for her. Did we did the inside.
[12:12] >> Okay.
[12:13] >> So, your daughter's the only one that
[12:15] lives there?
[12:15] >> Mhm.
[12:16] >> I drove by and there was a lot of cars
[12:18] out there.
[12:18] >> Oh, she must have been partying. No,
[12:20] that's next door. Um gentleman Brooklyn
[12:22] that live next door and and they park a
[12:25] lot of cars across the street in that
[12:26] empty lot. I I believe they've already
[12:28] been notified from somebody to move
[12:30] them, but I'm just saying I don't we
[12:32] don't run a car lot. We don't
[12:36] She has she currently has an orange
[12:38] vehicle and she has a Jeep that is in
[12:41] the garage where I live that just needs
[12:43] to eventually become her property.
[12:45] >> Well, looking at the pictures that
[12:47] you're up on
[12:48] concrete blocks. How are you going to
[12:50] use that as a garage?
[12:51] >> It's it's not it's almost level on the
[12:54] other end and they say it will hold the
[12:56] weight.
[12:58] I would get it peered. You know, have
[13:00] the the piers drilled and have it
[13:02] anchored down.
[13:03] But they swear it would hold the weight.
[13:06] And I I you know, I'm here's the thing.
[13:08] I'm a single mom household
[13:11] and if you gentlemen have any kind of
[13:13] direction for me, I'd gladly take it. I
[13:16] might be in over my head.
[13:18] But I'm just going by what the shed
[13:20] salesman told me is that it would act as
[13:22] a garage and hold.
[13:24] >> Right. I just at this point I just don't
[13:26] see how it would be used as a garage
[13:28] because it's about a foot off the
[13:29] ground.
[13:31] >> On this end, yes.
[13:32] >> Yeah, where the garage would actually be
[13:34] is what it's
[13:35] >> No, on the north end on the south end by
[13:37] the alley is where the garage door would
[13:39] be.
[13:40] >> Right, which it's
[13:41] >> off the ground at all on that end. It
[13:43] slopes up to about 13 in I think on that
[13:47] north end.
[13:49] >> Okay.
[13:50] Well, it shows on there that the
[13:52] um
[13:54] you put it on that one side because the utilities going on that one side.
[13:59] >> from the corner to the corner. And I
[14:01] know that at Mr. Swift's house, the gas
[14:03] line the the meter itself is on the
[14:06] front side of the house. On this little
[14:09] house, the meter is on the west side.
[14:11] So, it comes straight up the back.
[14:14] Right there to the back corner of the
[14:16] house like it passes in the middle between [snorts]
[14:20] the shed and the house.
[14:21] >> So, the way it's setting, it's not um
[14:24] I mean, as far as the the offset and
[14:26] everything is good. The only the only
[14:28] problem that we have now is the size.
[14:30] So, it's supposed to be
[14:32] um
[14:33] >> Approximate
[14:34] >> 4% of the square footage of the lot
[14:38] >> Correct.
[14:38] >> or 10% of the square footage of the
[14:40] house.
[14:41] Um if you do that, it's at 280 square
[14:44] feet for the structure.
[14:46] >> Correct.
[14:46] >> And we're at 480.
[14:47] >> that now, yes.
[14:48] >> So.
[14:55] The
[14:57] Let's see. There was another question.
[14:59] So, when I mean
[15:03] when did you intend on putting a garage
[15:05] door and all that or is that just
[15:06] something that you're changing now to make it qualify or try to qualify or
[15:11] >> No, no, no, no, no.
[15:13] Um
[15:15] this cost me $1,000 to be here today.
[15:18] Just for the permits and the the mailing
[15:21] labels and things like that. That's a
[15:23] little bit of a setback.
[15:25] Um I've I've had a couple other
[15:27] financial setbacks, but the first thing
[15:29] I would need to do would check on what
[15:31] permits need to happen first. I hope to
[15:33] have a garage door and some electric
[15:35] taken care of by September.
[15:37] I mean, reality that's just a couple of
[15:39] paychecks for me.
[15:40] >> Right.
[15:40] >> You know.
[15:43] Before bad weather for sure.
[15:44] >> Right.
[15:45] So, like I said, the board mem- the
[15:47] board must determine three uh if there
[15:50] are extraordinary conditions relating to
[15:52] the property due to size, shape, or
[15:54] topography. The lot is 6998
[15:58] sq ft and has a standard rectangular
[16:01] shape
[16:02] typical to this area. Um
[16:05] the applicant has stated that the size
[16:09] and location is due to the necessary due
[16:12] to the
[16:13] uh underground utilities. Now,
[16:16] I mean,
[16:17] the where the utilities are at are not
[16:18] going to
[16:20] where we place it's not going to solve
[16:22] the problem of it being too big.
[16:23] >> Correct.
[16:24] >> Um
[16:25] you've got the
[16:26] >> That's why I guess the variance that I'm
[16:27] asking for is the size.
[16:28] >> Correct. Correct.
[16:30] And I mean, it was put there before the permit was applied for or we didn't
[16:38] know
[16:39] >> Yes.
[16:39] >> immediately that it was too big.
[16:41] >> It happened a little faster than I
[16:42] expected and
[16:45] ice storm. I had it was in Omaha that
[16:47] weekend and
[16:48] three people in the car came back with
[16:50] the flu.
[16:51] >> Yeah.
[16:51] >> And then I had an orange notice already.
[16:53] So, yes, I should have applied for the
[16:54] permit before I purchased the shed. I
[16:56] honestly wasn't very familiar with the
[16:59] process to begin with. So, my ignorance
[17:02] [clears throat] got me in this position.
[17:03] I do apologize.
[17:05] >> Right.
[17:06] >> But then you went ahead and put the
[17:07] fence up around it even though we were
[17:09] still dealing with this.
[17:11] >> Only because of the dog and I got
[17:12] permission to do that and I changed
[17:14] contractors and everything. I just
[17:16] needed to be able to let her let the dog
[17:18] out in the backyard because it's nobody
[17:20] wants a a big dog running around the
[17:21] front, especially here's renters.
[17:24] >> But didn't they have to remove a fence
[17:25] to put this fence up?
[17:28] >> Well, the fence was already taken down
[17:29] because we was in the process of redoing
[17:32] the fence. The guys were taking it down.
[17:36] And
[17:37] >> Okay, I'm just trying to make sure I
[17:38] understand. I'm not trying to badger. I
[17:40] just want you to know that I'm not
[17:41] trying to
[17:42] so
[17:44] You check the fence
[17:45] >> panels would have to be taken down to
[17:46] move the shed out. That's not a problem.
[17:49] Fence guys know my situation. I sure. I
[17:51] changed fence companies to do what the
[17:54] city I mean I I just did everything that
[17:56] I thought I was supposed to do because
[17:57] that that was another
[18:00] um uneducated decision when I picked the
[18:03] first fence guy. He's the one who said
[18:06] we're going back in the same footprint.
[18:07] I don't think you'll need a permit and I said well, we're not even there yet.
[18:10] It was mid-January. He was going to take
[18:13] down some trees and stuff for me and all
[18:15] of a sudden I came back one day and the
[18:17] fence was gone legit. I have messages
[18:19] that prove that. I apologize. But so I
[18:21] had to I we never even talked to him
[18:23] again. He never did any more work. He
[18:25] wasn't the one who put the fence back
[18:27] up. So the fence got taken down by the
[18:30] contractor we did not end up using.
[18:33] And I'd already paid him half, but I had
[18:35] to just let him go. And then when I
[18:37] found a different fence company that
[18:41] we got the permit with and everything.
[18:42] We he understands that there is a
[18:45] possibility we might have to take the
[18:47] two back corners off.
[18:50] » Okay.
[18:53] Mhm.
[18:55] Do we want
[18:58] Okay.
[18:59] Um do we have anybody else here that
[19:01] wants to talk about the structure?
[19:03] >> Yes, I did.
[19:04] >> Go ahead.
[19:06] >> Thank you, Mrs. Smith.
[19:07] >> Mhm.
[19:07] >> Oh, I'm sorry.
[19:16] » Um
[19:20] This is not a storage shed.
[19:22] >> Could you
[19:23] I'm sorry. Sorry. Could you state your
[19:24] name and address for the record?
[19:27] >> Nick Swift.
[19:28] 302 South Holly Avenue.
[19:31] Right over there.
[19:33] All right. To begin with, this is not a
[19:35] storage shed. This is not a garage.
[19:39] If she's going to put a garage door on
[19:41] the back of this, she'll have to move
[19:43] the central heat and air unit that's
[19:45] there.
[19:46] If you look at this, you'll see a unit
[19:48] an air conditioning unit there.
[19:50] It was never meant to be used as a
[19:52] garage. It was meant to be used as a
[19:55] house.
[19:56] Now, I don't have any problems with
[19:58] duplexes and two houses on one lot.
[20:02] But, I have a problem with this.
[20:05] Now, if this structure
[20:12] is finished on the inside
[20:16] with sheetrock or whatever
[20:18] and has been plumbed and wired,
[20:22] that's a house.
[20:24] No one from the City of Yukon inspected
[20:27] that and gave approval to cover up the
[20:30] walls. You can't do that. This part You
[20:32] know that.
[20:34] And so, I'm opposed to having it there.
[20:36] I'd like to see it gone.
[20:42] Now, I've I'm heavily The Swift family's
[20:45] heavily invested in that part of town.
[20:48] Okay?
[20:51] We have houses
[20:54] at 219 Birch, 229 Birch,
[20:59] 124 Birch,
[21:01] 130 Birch, 124 North First, 125 North
[21:07] First,
[21:08] 230 Ash,
[21:10] 205 North Third, 208 Ash.
[21:15] Uh and we got a couple more in this in
[21:17] that part of town. We are heavily
[21:19] invested. That is a big investment.
[21:21] Okay?
[21:22] And I'd like to see the prices kept up.
[21:26] These distractions like this doesn't
[21:28] help our neighborhood one bit.
[21:31] Now, I doubt if anybody here
[21:34] uh
[21:34] has property in that area.
[21:37] But uh I'm concerned about it.
[21:40] We've got two houses
[21:43] that will ultimately be torn down.
[21:47] Now, we can't tear them down
[21:50] till the people move out cuz we're not
[21:52] going to
[21:53] put somebody out homeless.
[21:56] And um
[21:58] and one guy,
[22:00] he won't die on me, so
[22:03] I'm stuck with him and he'll probably
[22:05] outlive me.
[22:08] But that's
[22:09] neither here nor there.
[22:11] I don't want to see this. I think this
[22:13] is wrong
[22:14] and I'm not going to say any more. I
[22:17] just like to have it removed.
[22:19] >> So, Mr. Swift, if I understand, your
[22:21] primary concern is you're afraid that
[22:23] this is a going to be constructed as an
[22:26] additional dwelling unit, not as a
[22:28] garage or storage facility.
[22:29] >> Can you speak without that thing?
[22:31] >> Sure. So, are you you're what I hear you
[22:33] saying is that your primary concern is
[22:36] that this is going to be turned into an
[22:37] additional dwelling unit, not not as a
[22:42] storage facility as described in the
[22:44] permit.
[22:45] >> It's still a unit, isn't it?
[22:46] >> Okay.
[22:47] Do you Have you seen the inside being
[22:50] finished out?
[22:52] Okay, so you've not seen any
[22:54] construction of that sort. That's an
[22:55] assumption at this point. Okay.
[22:58] >> finished on the inside.
[23:00] Then it's a it's a structure.
[23:02] >> Sure.
[23:02] >> And judging from the fact that there's
[23:04] an air conditioning unit sitting on the
[23:06] outside, I would say that's what it is.
[23:09] >> Okay.
[23:10] >> And it's a house.
[23:11] >> Okay.
[23:12] >> Um
[23:13] and I'm I'm just not really pleased with
[23:15] this.
[23:16] >> Okay.
[23:16] >> If you let her do that, can I do it?
[23:19] Cuz I own a bunch of property.
[23:21] And I can put one of these on every
[23:23] piece of piece of property that I have,
[23:26] and I've got a bunch.
[23:28] And um I mean, if we're going to do it
[23:31] to the north side of town, can I do it
[23:33] in my neighborhood?
[23:34] >> Right.
[23:35] >> I mean, the houses are right off the
[23:37] Interstate 10, whatever it is. That's
[23:39] just a fraction of what we own.
[23:41] houses all over Yucaipa.
[23:43] >> Right.
[23:44] >> And I I don't want to see this. I'd like
[23:46] to I own probably two houses on my lot.
[23:50] And I hope to do that. I'm doing a
[23:52] duplex now.
[23:53] >> Mhm.
[23:53] >> I will be.
[23:55] And in that area, north of McDonald's.
[23:58] And I'd like to see
[23:59] that
[24:00] fine [snorts] building going up. I don't
[24:02] want to see more homes.
[24:03] >> Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Swift.
[24:06] >> Would you like to get up and speak?
[24:07] >> Um absolutely. I'm sorry that you feel
[24:10] that way, Mr. Swift. The inside is not
[24:11] finished. Nothing is finished about it.
[24:13] And unfortunately, Green Country Sheds
[24:16] sold it to me with what they called a
[24:18] mini split. I didn't even know what the
[24:20] mini split was. I was just looking for
[24:23] a a larger storage unit that would give
[24:25] me some square footage. And actually,
[24:26] your house next door has a 20 by 20
[24:29] building. And another one has a 24 by 24
[24:32] building. But I can't ask for a 24
[24:35] >> Would you speak to us?
[24:36] >> for a 24 by 24 because I I can't because
[24:39] of the gas line.
[24:41] And I paid for a brand new fence between
[24:43] our houses and stuff. So, I'm doing
[24:45] nothing but trying to make it look
[24:47] better to match his nice new
[24:50] construction. I would gladly
[24:53] maybe have
[24:55] I don't I can't even say that cuz I
[24:56] don't know where to begin to build
[24:57] something from the ground up. So, it
[24:59] seemed like a better deal to
[25:02] buy a prefabricated building.
[25:05] >> So, it's not finished on the inside.
[25:06] Does it It's not attached to electricity
[25:08] or plumbing?
[25:09] >> Absolutely not.
[25:11] Now, like I said, depending on the
[25:13] garage door, but if that isn't a break
[25:15] it kind of deal, I'll get a manual
[25:17] garage door for it. I mean, ideally, I
[25:19] would like to have a remote for her, but
[25:22] she has to get out and open the gate
[25:24] anyway, so
[25:25] you know, but there there is no electric
[25:27] and no water ran to it and nothing
[25:29] inside is finished.
[25:30] >> Okay, thank you so much.
[25:33] So,
[25:35] speaking from a staff perspective,
[25:38] the UDC does not make a differentiation
[25:41] regarding accessory structures when it
[25:44] comes to garages. So, we do not have
[25:47] anything in the code that states that
[25:49] detached garages can be larger than
[25:52] what's allowable for the accessory
[25:54] structures. So, it's either 4% of the
[25:59] square footage of the lot or 10% of the
[26:02] square footage of the primary structure,
[26:04] whichever is greater.
[26:06] You can't have more than 40% of the lot
[26:09] covered with structures.
[26:11] So, that's where it gets confusing
[26:12] because it states your lot coverage can
[26:15] only be up to 40%, but then there's
[26:17] these other percentages thrown in there
[26:19] as well.
[26:20] And so, when it comes to speaking about
[26:25] there's not an additional allowance for
[26:27] a greater square footage or a greater
[26:29] footprint. Um and
[26:32] that's speaking to the code that exists
[26:34] now as it is written in or as it was
[26:36] written in 2023,
[26:39] we can't speak about what else was built
[26:41] in the area or when it was built because
[26:44] this has to do with this permit for this
[26:46] particular piece of property and for the
[26:50] exact code as it reads now. So, just to
[26:53] differentiate it doesn't it's it does
[26:56] not matter if it's a garage, if it is
[26:58] detached from the house, it's considered
[27:00] an accessory structure, and that
[27:01] accessory structure has to meet the
[27:03] percentage requirements in the code.
[27:06] >> Thank you.
[27:07] >> Joe Horn, 102 South 5th. Uh this isn't a
[27:10] garage. If uh
[27:13] if if it's a garage, are you going to
[27:14] pour concrete [snorts]
[27:16] uh up to it?
[27:17] It's it's a foot off the ground, and
[27:19] there's an air conditioning unit that
[27:21] sits uh
[27:22] sits where your supposed garage door
[27:25] would be. It's not a garage.
[27:27] Uh if you want a parking, put a carport
[27:30] up. I'm sure you'd give uh approval for
[27:34] that.
[27:35] Um
[27:36] it's it's too big. I don't want it
[27:38] there.
[27:39] Um
[27:40] I think it's a bad thing.
[27:45] » So, I think the the biggest issue we got
[27:47] now is just it's oversized, and it
[27:49] doesn't fit the criteria of or the code
[27:53] of 4% of the square footage of the lot
[27:56] or 10% of the the
[28:00] house square footage.
[28:03] Anybody else have anything to say?
[28:05] >> Well, I've been listening to what
[28:06] everybody says, and I appreciate the
[28:09] emotions and the wanting to take care of
[28:11] everything and everyone in your own
[28:13] property. And as a broker, I totally
[28:16] understand property values and wanting
[28:18] them to be better and wanting everybody
[28:20] to have a place for all of their
[28:22] belongings.
[28:23] I'm going down the list of what we as a
[28:27] committee are told, these are what we
[28:30] have to do.
[28:32] And on number one, are there
[28:34] extraordinary and exceptional conditions
[28:36] pertaining to the particular piece of
[28:38] property in question because of size,
[28:40] shape, or topography? The answer's no.
[28:43] It's still the same lot size, the same
[28:45] topography as when it was purchased in
[28:47] 2021.
[28:49] Um is the application of this ordinance
[28:52] to this particular piece of property
[28:54] creating an unnecessary hardship not
[28:57] self-imposed by the owner or developer?
[29:00] The building itself violates the
[29:03] ordinance and that is the hardship.
[29:06] But as far as that is a self-imposed, I
[29:09] understand that you didn't understand.
[29:11] But that's still a self considered a
[29:13] self-imposed hardship.
[29:16] Um are these conditions peculiar only to
[29:19] this particular piece of property
[29:21] involved? It is an infield piece, an
[29:24] interior lot, it's not
[29:27] uh it's not a trapezoid, it's not on a
[29:30] weird cul-de-sac, it's common to the lot sizes in that
[29:35] neighborhood and on that street. So, the
[29:37] answer there is no.
[29:40] I don't I do not find that this
[29:43] particular
[29:46] situation calls for a variance. I wish I
[29:49] could find a way to do it, but I just I
[29:51] cannot.
[29:53] And so, I'm going to make the motion
[29:55] that we deny this.
[29:57] Um
[29:59] >> I second.
[30:00] >> Specifically as is written in our
[30:03] packet. I will read that for the record.
[30:07] In the case of the variance application
[30:09] by Rhonda Smith, we have read the staff
[30:10] report, we have received the testimony
[30:12] at the public hearing, we find that the
[30:14] request does not satisfy the required
[30:17] variance criteria. I move to deny the
[30:20] variance request from the accessory
[30:21] structure standards in the unified
[30:24] development code.
[30:26] Is there a second for that?
[30:28] >> I second it.
[30:30] >> Call for vote.
[30:33] » Floyd.
[30:35] Denied.
[30:37] Sharp.
[30:38] >> Denied.
[30:40] >> Cohn nine.
[30:40] >> Denied.
[30:47] » Okay.
[30:48] As we move on to item four
[30:51] >> Correct.
[30:52] >> It is elect [clears throat] a new board
[30:54] of adjustments chair.
[30:57] Do you have any nominations?
[30:59] >> Yes, ma'am.
[31:00] >> I'm sorry, I have
[31:01] a few questions.
[31:02] >> Mhm.
[31:03] >> Um so I understood that it is denied. Is
[31:07] Can we talk about a time frame that I
[31:08] have to have it moved?
[31:10] I'm going to try to sell it. I
[31:14] >> So what we would do
[31:16] >> a trailer for it. So either getting the
[31:18] trailer is going to take a little bit of
[31:19] time as well.
[31:21] Um transportation companies are about
[31:22] six weeks out.
[31:24] >> So we discussed this today if this were
[31:25] the scenario that you you faced.
[31:28] Uh I've instructed the code enforcement
[31:30] department to send a a proper uh 30-day
[31:33] letter to you for the next hearing
[31:35] to meet with our administration to get
[31:38] instruction on how many days the
[31:39] administration will allow you
[31:41] uh that process. So you should be
[31:43] receiving a letter after today sometime
[31:45] in the next week
[31:47] uh explaining what the next step would
[31:48] be and that would be to attend an
[31:50] administrative hearing to discuss those
[31:52] actual uh with our city manager.
[31:55] >> All right. Thank you.
[31:55] >> Absolutely.
[32:03] Okay, item four is elect a board of
[32:05] adjustments chairman. Anybody have
[32:07] nominations?
[32:11] » You've two been here a lot longer than
[32:12] me.
[32:13] >> [laughter]
[32:18] » I I nominate Carey.
[32:22] Do I have a second?
[32:24] >> I second.
[32:25] >> I accept.
[32:27] >> You take a vote.
[32:29] >> How do we vote?
[32:30] >> Do we need to vote on that? Yep.
[32:32] >> We do need to vote. Yes.
[32:33] >> Yep.
[32:34] >> Uh Conine
[32:35] >> Yes.
[32:36] >> Floyd
[32:37] >> Yes.
[32:37] >> Sharp?
[32:38] >> Of course.
[32:40] >> Item five is to elect a Board of
[32:42] Adjustments vice chairman.
[32:44] Any nominations?
[32:45] >> I think Mr. Floyd's doing a great job as
[32:48] vice chairman.
[32:49] >> I second.
[32:51] >> I accept.
[32:54] >> [snorts]
[32:54] >> Call for vote.
[32:57] » Sharp?
[32:58] >> Yes.
[32:59] >> Floyd?
[32:59] >> Yes.
[33:00] >> Conine?
[33:01] >> Yes.
[33:03] >> Okay, item six, any new business?
[33:07] >> None tonight.
[33:08] >> No new business.
[33:10] Uh item seven is open discussion.
[33:14] » Thank you gentlemen for coming tonight.
[33:16] >> Thank you.
[33:17] >> I appreciate the staff report in its
[33:21] entirety. It was very concise. It was
[33:24] easy to understand. So, thank you for
[33:25] that. All of you.
[33:28] And and the quick action by code enforcement in
[33:33] getting this where it it needed to be.
[33:36] So, thank you for that.
[33:39] » Do I need a motion to adjourn?
[33:42] >> No, you can.
[33:43] just adjourn. You don't need
[33:45] necessarily need a motion.
[33:47] >> Item eight is adjournment.
[33:50] >> All right.