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Good morning everyone. It's 9 o'clock
October 24th, 2026 and our regular

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commission court meeting is now in
session. First item on the agenda is

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roll call by county clerk Mary Jane
Vaden. Mary Jane, good morning.

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» Good morning judge commissioners.
>> Morning.

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» Judge Rasma
>> present.

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» Commissioner Moya
>> present.

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» Commissioner Morales
>> present.

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» Commissioner Solis
>> present.

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» Commissioner GarcA
>> present.

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» We have a quorum. Judge.
>> Thank you Mary Jane. Will everyone

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please rise for the pledge of
allegiance?

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Item number four, communications
commissioners

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comment on this morning.
>> I think I'm

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have any announcements other than uh
Congressman Greta will be here on Friday

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um 9:00 to do the groundbreaking for the
league sheriff's office uh expansion. So

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I look forward to see him. He's also uh
going to join be joined by USDA

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director, state director. So look maybe
all of us can be will be there on on

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Friday at 9.

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We'll move on to any more communication.
We'll move on to public comment. Uh this

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section provides the public the
opportunity to address the commissioner

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court on any item on the agenda. Any
members of the public? Yes.

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» I want to come for that.
>> Okay.

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» For number 19.
>> 19.

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» Morning Pat.
>> Good morning.

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» Morning. Healthcare director. Good to
see you.

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Thank you.

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» Okay. So, good morning.
>> Good morning,

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» judge and commissioners in the court for
the record

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county healthcare director.
Um I did write something down because I

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usually come in around this time and
it's always been like more complaints or

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issues that we have um regarding number
19 and it's um I want you to focus and

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see it in another way because it's
hasn't gotten us anywhere. Okay. So I'm

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going to I'm going to go ahead and read
it.

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As a Sapata County Healthcare Director
I'm going on the fourth year with a

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program and throughout this years we
have the community through different

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organizations and programs that have
supported the indigen healthcare.

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Although we are affiliated with the
medical center here at the Sapata family

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clinic which is the name but it is a
health center. I'm always looking

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forward to looking for other
organizations that can help our

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community for what the medical clinic
can offer and it's not only for the

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indent clients, it's also the whole
community because we're basing it. Today

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at the family medical clinic, we are
limited with services like lab work only

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three days out of the week. Two hours of
those three days, that's all we have. No

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shots administered at all when needed.
No sutures when needed, limited or not

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on medication samples. The patients
sometimes they don't have

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uh benefits or anything. So they don't
have money to buy the medication.

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Redirecting patients to Laro for the
lack of services that we just mentioned

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or any other lack of services. uh the
refusal of services to certain patients

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from the FMPs banning patients with
mailed letters and they and and those

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patients can come forward if you need
them. They are mailed letters signed by

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the doctor or the director of that
medical center which is then they will

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no longer be seen for whatever is
whatever they put in that letter. the

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lack of new equipment. We are working on
an ex with an X-ray machine which

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belongs to the county and it is an old
machine more than 20 years. The downfall

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of our facilities the maintenance inside
and outside the building has

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deteriorated and you know because you
you can actually see it in addition to

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numerous numerous complaints from the
community and since I'm the one that's

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sitting there all day even though you
probably have called it ah we can't get

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to Miss Mons. Well, guess what? on there
trying to figure out how we can fix this

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lack of services that we have from 2008
through 2026 which has been 18 years and

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this is I base myself on what I could
get that is public to the to anybody

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you're more than willing to come ask
where I got it we have contributed out

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of our 8% taxes to Larto medical center
for their services with a total of 13

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million
$686,558.

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And I leave it like that. You should It
should go through your minds. What

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What's going on with all that money?
Right. I know that we're we're a small

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town. We're But we're a community with
great hopes for better healthcare.

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Thanks to Congressman Henry and everyone
behind the 1 million grant, we can now

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look towards a better healthcare
facility. I ask the court to consider a

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plan for change. A change in providers
that is willing to give our community in

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two or five years from now the growth
that not only the services but also

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better equipment, technology.
We need to we're behind all of that

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equipment that can include machines that
can save lives here and between an hour

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to look where what hospital is going to
take care of his patients. We don't have

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that.
This would give us a better diagnosis of

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what a patient is going through and
eliminating the use of an ambulance when

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not needed and somebody else needs it.
That is and we are sending people with

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has stomach aches in an ambulance
because we cannot take care of it here

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in okay in the process of the commitment
the complaints with the people that have

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helped us along the way we have
concluded that Sapata actually needs a

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better service a health service better
plan a plan where we can expand in

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futures providers that are willing to
come to the community and serve Sapata

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those doctors need to come to Sapata
there are people in Sapata that don't

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have the means to go anywhere else.
Okay. And I'm not only telling about

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indigent healthcare, it's everybody in
the community.

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In in the in addition and as a reminder
again,

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I will tell you that the Sapata County
Healthcare Program and the services

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provided by Sapata Health Center, which
is the family center for this community

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come out of the 8% taxes of all the
people that survive. So, let's give them

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a better plan. something that really can
help us in our own community, your

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families, us, anybody going through SAP.
God willing, we will have an awesome

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facility in 2027 because we have a grant
and everything goes well, we will have a

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great facility. So let let's do
something

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where all the court myself and everybody
that helps out can say I was part of

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that. Let's not be like that. Okay,
please. And in in the page that I

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provided, you can see the amount of
monies we have provided to contribute it

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with their tax money and how much we
have actually been charged because it's

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monies that are relo relocated to their
facility where they charge us then for

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the services. But guess what we've been
charged from? We've been giving them

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100%.
When was this accepted? 100% when LMC

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probably has a 7%
Medicaid rate. All indigent programs,

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all of everybody us around, they pay 7%.
We're paying 100%.

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We don't get paid for rent. We rent our
facility for $1 a year. How do you

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expect the county to fix
anything that's broken there? Because

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The first thing the LMC says, "Well,
that belongs to the county. How do you

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want us to fix it when you pay me $1
ransom when you could be paying me?"

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Because they do get facilities in
Loreno. They pay a,000 to $2,000 a month

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for them to get those facilities. Why
are we so generous?

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I think we need to stop and we need to
get out of this comfort zone that we're

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at and try to get a better plan. And
there is people out there waiting for MC

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to step up and for you guys to recognize
that it is the time for a change and

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you'll see what will come in. But if we
don't give that opportunity, we'll never

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have it and we're going to keep on
having the same problems over and over

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again.
>> So, thank you.

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» Thank you so much. I appreciate the
transformation that the indigent program

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has has seen under your leadership and
and yes uh your points are well taken

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and we'll certainly uh visit that item
which is uh a yearly transfer of the 8%

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uh to the 1115 waiver where in turn uh
the medical provider in ter LMC receives

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an additional uh uh funds from the state
of Texas through federal monies

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» and maybe our error has been that we
don't have a

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» and of course that's in we are very
limited as to how many uh there's two re

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major regional hospitals in our area who
can handle our imagent patients

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especially in care patients and then
that has always been the concern of the

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court where do we turn to yes but we'll
take that on

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» but sometimes it's good to bring it up
because if we are having problems here

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at the clinic well maybe they'll say you
know what let's bring it up a notch

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» okay thank
It's only a reminder. That's all it is.

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Whatever.
>> I believe it just arrived.

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» Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Are there any other public comments this
morning? Yes, sir.

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» Please step forward.
>> I don't We're not on the agenda.

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» That's all right. That's okay.

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Good morning.
>> Yeah, just state your name for for the

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record and good morning. Thank you for
joining.

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» Good morning. This is

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» Good morning, judges and commissioners.
Morning.

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» Um, today we come before you guys just
to respectfully ask for permission to

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use the
>> the plasa here right next to the to the

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sheriff's office for the month of
September for childhood.

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» Oh, absolutely.
>> So, um, yes.

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» Our goal pretty much is just to help the
town goal by displaying gold decorations

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throughout the plaza as a symbol of
hope, strength, and support for the

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children and families that have been
affected by childhood cancer in our

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community.
This effort would bring our community

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together in a meaningful way and help
raise awareness in an important cause

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that touches many lives in our
community. As many of you guys know, um

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my family has personally suffered
through it.

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» Family has suffered through it and a lot
of members of our community have

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suffered through childhood cancer. Not
only just childhood cancer, just any

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type of cancer.
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Um, not only do we want to ask for
permission for to use the plaza for the

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month of September, but to see if it
would be available for us to hold a um a

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remembrance, a candle at remembrance on
September 5th, the evening of September

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5th. Yeah. Towards the night, um we want
to ask um the father from our lady to

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come and say a prayer. We want to this
big candles for uh those that have

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passed and um have a remembrance for
those that have survived as well. Um, we

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want to get with our with the sheriff's
office to see if there's anybody they

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can help us out with traffic control and
stuff like that. That would be more on

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our end. We'd go out there and ask if
they're willing to help us with that,

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which I'm sure they are. But

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I mean, it's a beautiful thing that
you're doing. So, I think it's a

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wonderful.
>> It's a public public. So, thank you for

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for advising us and informing the public
of of what you're doing. But yes, it's a

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public plaza. I'm certainly you can see
that.

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» So, if we have a chance, can we also
decorate the front um next to the table?

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» Yeah, that's what I was about to ask if
you can include a zag.

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» I know. We have this picture in our
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» Thank you so much.

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Any

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other public comments this morning,
judge? Good morning, judge.

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» Good morning.
>> Good morning.

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» Good morning, judge and commissioners.
For the record, uh JP,

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uh judge and commissioners, I'm here
with this wonderful group.

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» They're representing well the border
wall, the birth sanctuary. So, I advised

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them to come over because they wanted to
come and speak to the commissioner's

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court and have a few words, but I did
advise them that maybe for the next

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meeting to put it on the agenda to where
we can have a sheriff's office, somebody

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representing the sheriff's office, uh
maybe Kiwi as well, so they can

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understand the boundaries, you so kind
of so they can have like some kind of

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communication so we can avoid arrests
because I know

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poor Elsa
But I've always been there for her. But

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anyways, just just so we can avoid
conflicts, maybe they're going to put it

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on the next agenda where there somebody
representing sheriff's office, like I

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said, it may be somebody representing
can be here so they can be an

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understanding. So that being said, uh,
Commissioner Mades, maybe we can put it

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under you on the agenda and we'll talk
about it. So that's it for me. I'm I'm

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here just just to let you know and I'll
let you talk. Yes. Thank you.

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Morning,
Miss Elsa.

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» Good morning. Um,
I like to say I'm happy to be here, but

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under the circumstances, um, I just have
to say as a former state investigator

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for 25 years, I worked as a state
investigator. I have worked cases with

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local law enforcement, sheriff's, police
departments in our region, Department of

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Public Safety, state troopers. I even
had a case I worked with the Texas

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Rangers. And I have to say, to be
arrested on false charges, not once, but

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twice, is absolutely humiliating.
And besides being ridiculous and absurd,

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I'm absolutely humiliated.
Um, I do not understand why the Sabbath

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County Sheriff's Office appears to be
taking orders from CDP and arresting the

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residents while they're allowing the the
real criminals to run a muck. Um,

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the first time this happened back in
June,

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I felt like I I should give the
sheriff's department the benefit of the

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doubt. Maybe they are truly ignorant of
the laws and they are unaware of the

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history and this ruling that Sonicasio
obtained uh excluding the land and the

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town from federal taking.
Um I I I'm giving them the benefit of

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the doubt the first time and while
Maxine and I were there at the bird

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sanctuary trying to prevent further
destruction within this exclusion area,

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Mr. Brisco was at the courthouse and he
tracked down the records that proved

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what we were doing and what we had been
saying. Uh, and it proved that we were

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not trespassing. It was not federal
property. And you know, back in June, we

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presented this to everybody, the county,
the the the the federal government, the

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Army Corps, attorneys met, emails,
meetings, and we thought it had been

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settled um that we had demonstrated this
is not federal property. and they had

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been staying out at least at the bird
sanctuary. Um they did continue to

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trespass through private property. Um
you know Mr. Luis, a veteran,

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90-year-old veteran, Mr. Lolita. Um and
they're and Mr. Brisco, they're also

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trespassing on people's property. Um,
and we're trying to get the sheriff's

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department to support the residents, the
people that they are supposed to be

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protecting and serving instead of the
real criminals. Arrest the real

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criminals, you know, um the these land
owners, these veterans, even the widow

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of a former county commissioner, her
property was also damaged and these

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criminals trespassing through her
property. Um, And and and this second

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arrest is is absolutely inexcusable
because the sheriff's department,

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the federal government, the county
government, everybody has been provided

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with this documentation about the Sunday
Nasio exclusion. And the second arrest,

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it there were there there were no there
was no hostility. I was on adjacent

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property just kind of keeping an eye on
things and I saw two surveyors walk into

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the bird sanctuary and I'm like, "Well,
they're not just driving through.

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They're on foot. Why are they going in
there?" And I didn't see any signs about

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the bird sanctuary being closed. And I
went in there and there were other

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people there un associated to me just
fishing. And I politely asked the

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surveyors, "What are you all doing in
here?" One of them responded, "We're

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just," but they told us to come take
measurements. And I'm trying to explain

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to them about the exclusion and that
this isn't federal property. You need to

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make sure before you come in to some
place and you're going to do work, you

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need to, you know, verify with your
supervisor because all this was provided

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to them. There must be some kind of
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And you know, he he left and the second
guy there, you know, he picked up his

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stuff and and left it. I was not
threatening. I wasn't interfering. I

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wasn't trying to block them. I was just
trying to inform them. And I I have all

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this on video. I have evidence to back
up what I'm saying. But but it was all

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very cordial. And after they left, I
left. And next thing I know, here comes

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the sheriff's deputy. And I'm watching.
He went down below shaking hands with

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Border Patrol contractors. They were
talking, but then he got in his truck

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and he left. He passed by me. And I'm
thinking, well, he didn't arrest him.

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Hopefully, he gave him a warning.
Next thing I know, the deputy Hernandez

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is wandering around in the lot behind me
asking, "How do I get to you? He he

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can't seem to find me." I'm like, "You
just have to come around here and you

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know, just a little bit further down."
giving him directions on how to find me

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because I was so confident I had done
nothing wrong. And um first thing out of

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his mouth was turn around. I I was
blindsided. And I tried to explain,

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well, I'm on private property here. And
he's insisting that I was trespassing on

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federal property. And I tried to
explain, I was just in the bird

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sanctuary. There were other people
there. Why are you arresting me and not

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anyone else?
even showing him this declaration of

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taking in the map of the exclusion area
in San Nasu. Not interested, not

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interested in seeing this. And I didn't
even have the opportunity. I didn't get

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to the get far enough along to explain
to him also, we have the word. The

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county attorney gave me his word. We
would not be arrested in the bird

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sanctuary or the exclusion zone.
And again, I was arrested under false

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pretenses. And I just we need to have
the sheriff's department on our side

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supporting the people that live here,
the people protecting our property. Stop

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arresting us and arrest the real
criminals. Um, you know, we have

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trespassing signs that have been erected
now, uh, uh, put up now. No trespassing.

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trying to inform the the contractors and
everybody this is private property and

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but we need the support of our local
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and um I do want to say we have seen the
Spencer Construction the the company

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that got the buoy contract almost $300
million for 56 miles of buoys and their

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boat has been in the river they're doing
their scouting so that's coming up next

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um and and I do We are still um awaiting
to find out information about the

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hydraology study. So I hope that's still
being pursued. But but we do need the

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the sheriff's department on our side to
enforce the laws and stop protecting the

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criminals and and stop arresting the
people they are supposed to be

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protecting. Thank you.
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» Morning doctor.
>> Yeah. Thank you. I am Eric. retired

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position citizen in Sanasio. I'm going
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to say is that when I'm sitting with
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the bird sanctuary legally uh in the 100
degree heat, I feel like I'm following

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Elsa into the pit of hell. It's just
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» So, first I'm supporting Elsa by being
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say is that um taking position the
things that are happening are putting

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people who are making these decisions on
the wrong side of history and and this I

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got on Saturday morning is an Elmanana
front page

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front page. So this is international.
And the next morning after our Laredo

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press conference on what's the lawsuits
in San Agnosio, I was called by some a

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friend in Houston and had just heard
about it on PBS in Houston. So this

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story is not just here in the county.
This is a larger story and as we move

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into the midterms, there's going to be
increasing attention on this. So to be

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on the right side of this and to prepare
how you're going to deal with what's

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happening there. Now I'm speaking as a
physician

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who practiced at UTMB for many years.
Galveastston had a plan when the

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hurricane was coming. And what I've just
handed out to you is a photo of Chip's

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sign that was put on his property. And
the and the little red flag was the

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height of high water in 2010. It would
be over the wall if the wall was there.

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And in the recent rains that came, the
water came over the riverbank up to

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where they're going to place it. Now the
the land is cracked, but it would be

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defin it was already would have been
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So
public health my second we're plugging a

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major artery
coronary artery by what we're putting

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plaque along one side of this river and
we're building a barrier that is going

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to lead to catastrophe and the second
thing I have is the flood zone that's

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the exclusion is there but the red is
the flood zone the federal government is

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building in what's known as the flood
plane. So, I'm going to ask the county

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and maybe Olga can help it get onto this
next agenda and ask, does the county

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have a plan for a catastrophic flood?
Who in San Ignasio, if the water comes

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up, is going to need to be to know they
need their documents so they can get out

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of the way of what's coming. So, a flood
plan. And [clears throat] the second

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thing is we almost lost our water in San
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because the flotation device in the
river floated up onto land with the

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water and when the water went down the
float stayed on the land which has an

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artery which goes to the big tower and
there were like 30 people they came down

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they had to move the float out. So the
second public health thing is what is

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your plan to get water when it begins to
be compromised by the potential of

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what's coming?
>> Okay. Thank you all very much.

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» Okay.
>> Hello. Good morning.

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» Morning.
>> My name is and I

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here to speak about positivities and
innovation.

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My name is Alejandra Portinas and I come
from the family of Juina Redsville and

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Matamoros who stood up for the people
and believed in protecting their

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communities. Today I want to carry this
spirit forward not for politics, power

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or personal gain but for the people,
the land and the living things that make

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Sanio special. I believe Sanio has the
potential to flourish through

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innovation, empowerment, posit
positivity

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and love
for our environment.

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We can restore our parks, improve our
basketball court at the church,

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strengthen and protect our bird
sanctuary, create spaces for families

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and children, and work toward bringing
essential services such as fire station

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to better and protect our community.
These not just buildings or projects,

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they are
investments in our future. Together, we

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can restore what has been neglected,
protect what is precious, create create

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new possibilities, and give our children
something to be proud of. S Sano

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deserves to grow without losing its
soul. Let let us protect our land, our

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birds, our families, and our community.
Let us build a future based on love,

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unity, opportunity, and service to the
people. Thank you.

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» Um, I'll be brief. Uh, good morning.
>> Um, thank you guys for listening to us

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and I just want to say that I've been
out to the Sagasio Bird Sanctuary for

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» your name for the record. Just
>> My name is Ed from Texas.

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» Okay.
>> Uh, but I've been introduced to the bird

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sanctuary and as you guys may know like
Big Ben, they're already a national

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park. So, the beauty is already going
everywhere and people are defending that

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beauty because it has worldwide
attention. This bird sanctuary is

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freaking awesome. That's it freak. But,
um, it is amazing. It is so cool. And

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just recently, we were out there
kayaking, some of us out here. Uh, and

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two things here. One is that they're
trespassing on a 90-year-old veteran's

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property, right? Uh, that's one thing.
And he gave us permission to tell people

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not to trespass. and at that point she
got arrested. Right? So that's one

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issue. The second thing is now that
they're trespassing um and they're going

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to get started on this wall is being
built on both sides of the bird

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sanctuary. Uh what
makes us think they're not going to just

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bulldoz it if they already have like
these little markers already doing

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assessments. Um I'm here to also just
say that uh I really believe it's a time

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for people to protect the land. Uh what
we have, you know, always been here and

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I've learned a lot about the history of
Sapata and Sanas. Uh so I just came out

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here to support and hope hope that you
guys can do something about that.

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» Thank you.

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» Good morning,
>> Judge. Good to see you

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» commissioners. My name is Frank Brisco.
I am an architectural conservator at the

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resident of Signasio. Uh I'm going to be
speaking on behalf of myself and Nana

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Ruiz, my neighbors. um primarily about
private property that that they own that

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I own but also wanted to talk about the
larger uh context of the the ver the uh

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selling exclusion.
This is a selling exclusion is really a

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remarkable kind of it has a a great
history. It was is the result of a

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petition. Let me start over again. This
says on on June 3rd, the contractors

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working with the Department of Homeland
Security began crowing a 150 foot wide

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strip along the river bank below Sunny
Nasio in preparation for the border

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barrier through a petition campaign led
by county leaders including people from

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Zapata. This was not just the Sunnasio
thing, which is also really impressive

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to me that uh we had we had people from
Zapata. We had many veterans involved in

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this petition drive and uh and area
leaders including Rudio Martinez

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came together and guided this petition
through the federal court system and

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ultimately prevailed uh with they had
200 some 200 signatures and uh and the

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federal government we struck a deal
basically and and the deal involved

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we're still finding out details of it
but the deal was sunny. The sunnasio

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exclusion was created and spared from
the condemnation of all of the parcels

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around. U
the the flip side was we foreclosed

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our as I understand it we foreclosed our
right to sue the federal government for

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flood damages. Well, it's worked out
pretty well for us and uh you know there

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have been flood there have been flood
damages as Eric showed that 2010 flood

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was right up to the blood that would
that would be above the 307 traverse.

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307 Traverse was chosen as the as the
area that was that was purchased in

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December by the federal government in
1955 with a judgment of the declaration

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of taking number 52 which
[clears throat] is right across the hall

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here. And we we have we have distributed
among a number of people including the

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sheriff, IBWC,
uh border patrol

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virtually. We feel like we've got it out
there and we would like to see it

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enforced because uh the county owns
property right here. This is the the

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bird sanctuary uh which was which was uh
donated to the county in I think 2007.

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Whoever Reese was instrumental in that
uh it was donated by a fellow named

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Richard Spite SiT.
And one of the reservations is that

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is used for anything other than a
wildlife refuge, it's going to revert to

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the Far Allen Island Foundation in
California. And I don't know how they're

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going to determine
whether, you know, a a barrier through

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it that takes upund virtually half of
the property is going to be uh still

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allowed to continue as a wildlife refuge
or if that's going to trigger their

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reverting to them.
But they they are aware they're

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following this very carefully.
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we we we've also produced besides the u
besides the documents related to the

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exclusion we've distributed two letters
from the IBWC

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uh two people inside and to the
commission indicating that they have

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that the federal government has no
jurisdiction whatsoever between the

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within the site master exclusion. uh one
one of these letters is just very

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briefly this is uh directed to Anel Gar
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precinct 2 and this is 90s
because of the fact that the government

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did not take the properties within the
town center I'll show you the town's

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people own to the wat's edge and he goes
on to say Lincoln Grant Washington we

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aqua awa
are all public access without the

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intervention of the
>> county and water commission.

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» Sure.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. Let me let me just uh uh

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wrap up with that. So, we've had
numerous uh contacts with the sheriff's

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department. We we have not been able to
get them to

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see our side or show us any documents
from the other side. However, the most

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the most uh
uh productive contact we've had so far

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00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:54,240
has been with uh Captain Captain I
suggested we set up a liazison which

416
00:34:51,280 --> 00:35:01,280
which we would really like to be we'd
like to see instituted. Uh it would have

417
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:09,839
all of the stakeholders uh who could
share communication on a much more um

418
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:15,040
immediate way than is happening now. Uh,
I I I'm not sure what the whether there

419
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:18,160
is a win-win in this, but I'm [snorts]
certain that there's a lose-lose if we

420
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,160
don't change the course of what we're
working on.

421
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:27,200
» Thank you very much.
>> Thank you so much. And yes, we're not

422
00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:32,320
going back and forth today. It's not on
the agenda, counselor, but uh I do want

423
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:37,119
to and of course the counselor is
representing uh Sapata County many

424
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:41,839
communications negotiations.
>> That's correct. Judge, I can apprise the

425
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:48,480
court as to where we're at, judge, in
reference to the

426
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:56,079
I've discussed this matter with uh uh
Captain Deo and uh notified him that the

427
00:35:53,440 --> 00:36:02,000
there is that exclusion area that has
been uh that was adopted back in uh when

428
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:08,560
the initial taking occurred, judge,
which was back in in the 50s, judge. So

429
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:14,160
because that exclusion exists,
uh we have to be very mindful of the

430
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:20,000
fact that if someone were to be
arrested, uh for their under the grounds

431
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:24,320
of it being a trespass, well, it can't
be a trespass if it's on public lands.

432
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:30,320
Okay. Correct.
>> So uh that's where we've been in contact

433
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:38,880
uh with them. Now the issue becomes one
of um the line between a peaceful

434
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:44,079
protest and uh say one that's disrupting
the peace judge. So those are more

435
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:49,839
factual elements dependent on what
exactly happens uh in that situation.

436
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:56,240
But having said that, I am meeting with
the IBWC

437
00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:02,240
on Thursday, judge, where they are going
to uh bring forth their maps, and if we

438
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:07,040
receive anything that would contradict
that which we have, judge, uh then

439
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:12,240
obviously we'll make the residents aware
of what it is uh that is uh that is

440
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:15,839
brought forth. But uh based off
everything I've researched, judge, uh

441
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:22,240
there doesn't appear to be anything
beyond uh uh uh that exclusion zone that

442
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:27,760
was adopted. So uh the federal
government cannot take any of those

443
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:34,800
lands without initiating an eminent
domain proceeding. So, um I believe

444
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:39,920
we're in a solid footing to at least
require them to start those proceedings

445
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:46,079
against against the county uh for those
specific lands judge. So um while they

446
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:50,640
may have worked up to those specific
area uh uh that exclusion area they will

447
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:55,760
have to be stopped because as the court
is aware we notified them that they did

448
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:59,440
not have permission from Sapata County
or the governing body of the county

449
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:04,960
which is about theata county
commissioners court. So they cannot

450
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:11,760
enter onto those premises and any of uh
of them entering onto those premises for

451
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:19,040
the purposes of construction of that
border wall um

452
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:24,160
will be you know uh addressed you know
so now because it's public lands they do

453
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:28,440
have a right to get onto the land. Okay.
Well, we're talking we're talking about

454
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
different

455
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:36,079
apparently talking about the bird
sanctuary which is owned by the county

456
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:41,920
but bookending that parcel
>> is one acre on the extension of the

457
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:46,160
which actually traded to the county for
the county provided the deed that he has

458
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:53,359
that shows his property goes to the
river. There's no the 307 uh traverse

459
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:59,359
has no bearing whatsoever within the
sunny area. We're talking about private

460
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:02,599
property on the north side and on the
south side

461
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:12,320
» any
that are considered part of the the the

462
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:17,839
lands that have been uh that are not
were not automatically granted to the

463
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:23,839
United States based off of that eminent
domain taking that were excluded from

464
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:28,160
there. Okay. Then the we cannot arrest
individuals that are protesting there so

465
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:31,599
long as the individuals that are
protesting there are there at the

466
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,079
permission of the private property
owner. Does that make sense?

467
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,839
» It makes sense.
>> So so that is where we what what my

468
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:42,880
instruction was to the sheriff's
department on those specific matters.

469
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:46,480
Now it didn't exist before but now that
I've discussed the matter with them I

470
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:50,480
think we're kind of on the same page in
reference to

471
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:54,880
» did not exist. uh the
uh their ability to make arrest because

472
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:59,920
they weren't under the they didn't they
didn't know that that was part of the

473
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:05,119
exclusionary thing. So I relayed that to
them, provided them maps and and all

474
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:08,800
that uh uh information that hopefully
clarifies the issue. So

475
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:13,440
» these contractors are continuing to
trespass through both of their

476
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,119
properties and the sheriff's department
is not addressing it.

477
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:21,599
» Okay. Well, see the problem with that is
that if they're not going to be

478
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:27,040
arresting the protesters, they can't
because it is a disputed issue.

479
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,920
» I'm sorry. What is the dispute?
>> Are you saying that we don't own that

480
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,280
property or that
>> sir? I'm just saying that it's a

481
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,119
disputed issue between you and the
government, sir. Okay. Now, I know you

482
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:42,800
believe you own it, sir. And I would
tend to agree with you, but from a uh

483
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:48,079
law enforcement standpoint, sir, unless
it's a clear-cut issue, it's difficult

484
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:52,800
for me to authorize the sheriff's
department to go make arrest

485
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,920
specifically uh in reference to that
issue because you have a and you have a

486
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,359
lawsuit uh
>> you have two lawsuits, right, for

487
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,640
nation, which is different different
from trespassing, but they're working

488
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,680
their way through the federal court
system.

489
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:11,520
» Correct. So once that is clarified, well
then if it's if it's a deed by a court

490
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:16,319
because the issue is in disputes, that's
why the law enforcement I I know I I

491
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:22,480
know what you're saying and believe me,
I I I sympathize with you because I I I

492
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:26,640
have uh very clear opinions as to my uh
feelings on this border wall. Okay. But

493
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:29,760
having said that, I do have to protect
the interests of the stuff about the

494
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:33,680
county and
>> I understand. So, so that's kind of

495
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:38,800
where where we're at with with that. So,
but you know, based on what we have, it

496
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:41,520
would be it would potentially be a
trust.

497
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:44,480
» Can we have this on the agenda for
meeting counsel? And I appreciate the

498
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:46,880
info. Uh,
>> judge, I just have to say this is an

499
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:52,880
urgent issue because
>> I understand there's

500
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:56,800
still trying actively to get heavy
machinery into the bird sanctuary.

501
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:00,400
» Well, I I'll Mr.
I guess you can uh reach out to them and

502
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,640
say that our
>> we we

503
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,319
» because it's public lands judge they do
have the right to enter. Now, they're

504
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:12,000
doing something that's damaging our
property. Well, that's a different

505
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:16,160
story. And then we can absolutely have
police uh uh come in and prevent them

506
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:20,800
from doing it, which I don't know.
>> Trees in the bird sanctuary, sir. They

507
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:25,760
have knocked down trees in the bird
sanctuary. They have damaged county

508
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,400
property in addition to private
property.

509
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,880
» Okay. Well, if that's the case, then law
enforcement absolutely.

510
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:39,280
» Initially, before the awareness of the
exclusion zone came about, they did not

511
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:44,560
» they did not our hope is just that
they're aware of it now and we can take

512
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,800
action to at least warn them.
>> We just we've got a long agenda, sir. We

513
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,560
need to move on and we can't take any
action today. But I appreciate your

514
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:57,599
concerns. They're all concerns that we
all share. Absolutely. I appreciate

515
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:03,359
» just to let you know we are in constant
communication with a core of engineers.

516
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Okay. Who's uh uh who's I guess
supervising the actual I I don't know

517
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,720
they're there on a day-to-day basis as
far as s supervising the the

518
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:17,839
contractor's work, but uh I'm in
discussion with them and they've assured

519
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:23,280
me that there's been no uh invasion in
into the the private documentation. I'm

520
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:28,240
glad you you're you're you know letting
us know investigator. I I know

521
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:35,319
» we've got one more speaker. Uh this
>> you've got two sheets there. Two pages.

522
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:35,319
You can breathe fast.

523
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:48,240
» Morning sir. Call me a poet. Some call
me the dude. But I've always been Jesse

524
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:53,119
Gera. Anything you might have heard
about me is true. Only the names of your

525
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:58,560
chain to protect the guilty,
>> not blowing in the wind. In the name of

526
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:02,720
the father, in the name of the son, in
the name of the great spirit whose work

527
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:08,880
we all marvel at, in the name of
humanity, in the name of that big beast,

528
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:14,480
manifest destiny. I am speaking as an
indigenous man. All this land belonged

529
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:20,720
to my ancestors, to your ancestors, to
our ancestors. So what kind of engine

530
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:28,480
are you? The great cho port Rahul Sen
Selenas was asked in El Paso before he

531
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:34,000
crossed over. Mexican, he said. Oh, in a
disappointed tone, "I thought you was a

532
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:38,560
real engine," said the white man. The
repercussions of your actions or

533
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:44,319
inactions today will reverberate for
years as a ripple or as a tsunami and

534
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:49,359
years into the future. Just as your
brave ancestors, civic leaders, and

535
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:56,319
veterans of the 50s of San Agnesio who
had the courage to confront Big Brother

536
00:44:53,040 --> 00:45:01,839
and save Sanio from being flooded.
Meanwhile, the real fascist lawbreaker

537
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:08,240
issues marching orders from the throne
of his 23 karat goldplated monuments.

538
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:13,599
His fake arch his non- congressionally
approved billiondoll ballroom in

539
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:18,800
Washington DC. While the Rosa Parks of
Sonic Nasio are being harassed,

540
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:23,280
threatened, and arrested. We will not
sit at the back of the bus. While the

541
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:30,079
real perpetrators are trespassing and
yellow jaw bulldozers and botinous amad

542
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:36,160
water golem water tankers guzzling
thousands of gallons of precious Rio

543
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:42,400
Grande water. We ask that the sheriff
aim his focus and arrest the yellow men

544
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:48,400
trespassor and not indulge in John Wayne
genre gestapo type ICE raids on

545
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:54,480
indigenous people on stolen land. Stop
the land landowner trespassor. Stop the

546
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:59,440
environmental holocaust. Are we
regressing to separate water fountains,

547
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:04,319
to separate bathrooms, black and brown
and white? The writing is on the wall.

548
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:09,280
The ten commandments at the closed
schoolhouse. Where is our conscience,

549
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:14,160
our common sense for the common good,
for our brotherhood, for humanity, for

550
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:18,240
our sacred lands and rivers? We are
stewards of this great land. Just

551
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:22,960
because Big Brother says to do something
doesn't mean it's right. Look at all the

552
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:28,240
indigenous people massacred it took to
create this country. All the stolen

553
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:33,599
land, all the tears, all the blood.
Imagine waiting your whole life to be an

554
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:39,200
ice cube. And then you melt. Your whole
life, your very existence melts before

555
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:44,480
your eyes, before your feet in the name
of the great spirit. You are water. You

556
00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:52,240
are life. The answer is not blowing in
the wind. San Ignasio strong. Sapata

557
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:55,240
strong weather.
>> Amen.

558
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680
» Gracias.

559
00:46:59,152 --> 00:47:06,400
[applause] Thank you all for your
information. We'll see you soon.

560
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:12,640
» Commissioners, before we move on, I know
we've got some school independent school

561
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:18,319
district employees here. Uh we'll go to
>> 25 resolutions and proclamations. Uh we

562
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:22,800
have item number 25 is the proclamation
on attendance matters. Yes, Miss

563
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,560
Guerrero. Good morning.
>> Good morning.

564
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:30,319
» Morning.
>> Thank you.

565
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:35,599
» Good morning,
commissioners, distinguished elected

566
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:41,119
officials in county and state community
members. For the record, my name is

567
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Nancy Guo. I'm the federal programs
compliance manager at Tapa County ISD

568
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:50,000
and I am pleased to present the
attendance awareness proclamation for

569
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:54,319
September 2026.
Our school district proposes to

570
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:59,520
officially designate this month as
countywide attendance awareness month to

571
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:04,160
highlight the importance of daily
student attendance.

572
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:09,839
By uniting our school district, elected
officials and local communities, we can

573
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:15,839
ensure every student is about the county
attend school date. Together, we must

574
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:21,920
emphasize to parents and guardians how
essential regular attendance is to their

575
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:25,839
children's education.
It is essential for everyone to

576
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:31,119
recognize that our district maintains
clear attendance policies designed to

577
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:36,880
support every student's educational
success. Last year, last school year, we

578
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:42,000
collaborated with justice of the peace
preudge

579
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:46,960
to inform about the consequences of
regular absentism.

580
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:53,359
We highlighted state law which requires
students to attend class at least 90% of

581
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:58,160
the time offered to earn course credit.
Although these measures are structured

582
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,480
to curb chronic abstences, achieving
lasting results requires communitywide

583
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,520
support.
Monitoring participation and tracking

584
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:12,000
attendance are vital to determining if
students are connecting with your

585
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:17,040
lessons or if intervention is required
to address attendance barriers. We aim

586
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:22,160
to boost attendance this school year
through the joint effort between the

587
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:27,359
justice of the peace judges office and
our attendance recovery officers.

588
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:32,480
Operating daily. These dedicated
officers reach out to parents, transport

589
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:37,920
students, and re-engage those who are
absent. We extend our sincere gratitude

590
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:41,920
to all partners supporting our attend
attendance initiatives and remain

591
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:46,800
committed to drive continuous progress
in the years ahead.

592
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:51,520
Therefore, the proclamation states,
"Whereas good attendance is essential to

593
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:56,400
student achievement and graduation, we
are committed to dedicating our

594
00:49:53,200 --> 00:50:02,160
resources and attendance to reducing
chronic absentes and rates. With a focus

595
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:07,839
starting as early as pre kindergarten
and kindergarten, whereas chronic

596
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:13,280
absence missing 10% or more of school,
alert schools, community partners, and

597
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:16,880
families that one or more Positive
conditions for learning are not in

598
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,960
place.
Whereas students are more likely to

599
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:26,400
attend school when positive conditions
for learning, physical and emotional

600
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:31,040
health and safety, a sense of belonging,
connection and support, academic

601
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:36,960
challenge and engagement in adult and
peers with social emotional competency

602
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:42,559
are in place. Whereas the imp impact of
absence of punitive approaches to school

603
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:47,920
discipline contribute to the achievement
gap that separate students for lost

604
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:51,839
learning time in the classroom.
Whereas showing up for school is an

605
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:56,319
opportunity for students to build
routines that can create a sense of

606
00:50:54,160 --> 00:51:00,880
safety and belonging, increase
engagement, and develop trusting

607
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:05,760
relationships with peers, teachers, and
school staff that increase engagement

608
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:11,040
and motivate them to participate in
learning.

609
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:15,280
Whereas reducing absenteeism requires
taking a comprehensive approach that

610
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:20,640
begins with prevention and early
intervention and adopting trauma inform

611
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:25,359
approaches rather than responsive
responding with community action.

612
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:31,440
Whereas improving attendance and
reducing absentism takes schools, family

613
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:36,800
and community partners working together
to identify and address factors

614
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:42,319
contributing to students missing school.
particularly a lack of digital access,

615
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:49,119
mental and physical health services, and
access to basic economic supports,

616
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:53,359
including food and housing.
Whereas partnering with students and

617
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:58,400
families to monitor attendance as well
as understand and address barriers to to

618
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,720
attendance requires building and
sustaining caring relationships and

619
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:08,400
regular communication in the home
language spoken by the families. Whereas

620
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:14,000
research found even before pandemic that
families had high aspirations for their

621
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:18,800
children yet faced significant barriers
in getting their children to school or

622
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:24,160
lack the knowledge that showing up
nearly every day to school was crucial

623
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:28,880
to academic achievement.
Whereas taking attendance daily in a

624
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:34,640
consistent manner and for different
times of types of learning opportunities

625
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:39,040
in person or homebound is essential to
identifying when students begin to miss

626
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:43,920
too much school.
Whereas taking positive problem solving

627
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:49,440
approach to reducing absenteeism
requires expanding data to include

628
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:54,559
reviewing chronic absence and attendance
data for inperson and homebound

629
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:59,920
availability of working contact
information for families connectivity

630
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:03,839
devices and internet and positive
relationships.

631
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:08,319
Whereas promoting attendance requires
noticing as soon as possible when

632
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:14,400
students are starting to miss too much
school in order to engage students and

633
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:17,920
families, identify and offer needed
support and early intervention

634
00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:23,760
resources.
Whereas ensuring an equal opportunity to

635
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:29,359
learn requires using data to detect high
levels of absenteeism and missed

636
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:34,880
opportunities to learn by school, grade,
and student population.

637
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:39,280
Now therefore be a result that the
Sabbath County Commissioner's Court

638
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:45,920
stands with the nation in recognizing
September as attendance awareness month.

639
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:51,119
We hereby commit to focusing on reducing
absenteeism and addressing the factors

640
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:56,640
that cause students to miss school,
whether offered in person or homebound,

641
00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:02,720
in order to ensure all children an
equitable opportunity to learn, grow,

642
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,839
and thrive academically,
emotionally, and socially. We recognize

643
00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:12,559
that we must work together to engage
students and families and send the

644
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:16,960
message that learning can be can and
must continue whether students

645
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:22,400
participate in person homebound or
through approaches. Specifically, we

646
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:27,440
will make clear that improving students
attendance including taking daily

647
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:33,119
attendance in a consistent manner and
monitoring absenteeism continues to be a

648
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:38,720
top priority. Encourage family
engagement and civic action to help

649
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:45,359
families get their children to school
every day. Analyze our data to identify

650
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:51,359
which students are most affected by our
chronic absence as well as to unpack

651
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:56,960
common attendance challenges that need
to be addressed. Additionally, subject

652
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:01,119
to everyone's approval, we warmly invite
our community members, elected

653
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:06,000
officials, school board members,
superintendent, teachers, and students

654
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:11,839
to join us for the signing of our joint
proclamation. The signing will take

655
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:16,800
place at 6:15 p.m. on September 4th
during our first home Hawk football game

656
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,240
at Spock Stadium.
>> We look forward to seeing you all there.

657
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:26,319
Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Thank you for so

658
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:31,200
eloquently reading that
>> I apologize

659
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:34,880
but I really appreciate you all joining
in our efforts to spread

660
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,280
» appreciate the invite. Yes,
>> we couldn't agree more. You know the

661
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,760
attendance does matter.
>> It does matter.

662
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,359
» There's a motion to approve the
proclamation as presented.

663
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,800
» Motion by Commissioner Si to approve the
proclamation as presented. Seconded by

664
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:51,040
Commissioner Morales. Any discussion
commissioners? All those in favor say I.

665
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:56,400
I. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you
and once again hope to see you all.

666
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,400
» Thank you for joining us.

667
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,280
I'll picture

668
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,359
» you let

669
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,280
it walk.

670
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:47,559
Okay.

671
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,000
Sorry.

672
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,680
Thank you.
>> Take care.

673
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:10,920
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

674
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:27,799
Okay.

675
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:54,079
All right,
>> invoices.

676
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:59,280
» Richard, moving on. Item number six,
total of invoices in your packets. We

677
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:06,680
had invoices from August 7, 2026 to
August the 20th, 2026 for a total of

678
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,680
I1,54,9381.

679
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:19,119
Uh part of it uh the general fund was
666,000 expenses a little over 200,000

680
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,359
was the loan for uh
>> loan and also

681
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:26,720
» the election machines.
>> Yeah. And then the the the part of the

682
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:33,520
like insurance
motion as expenses. Okay. Got a motion

683
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,960
» and we will be including uh three
additional

684
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:40,960
» yes
>> invoices for a total of 18,000

685
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,920
additional 18,45
>> those coming out of our circular

686
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,920
obligation.
>> Okay.

687
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:49,359
» Oh yeah.
>> I was going to explain a little bit more

688
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:52,960
on that once we got to the CO uh agenda
item.

689
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,599
» Okay. So we don't include them in
>> No, no, you don't have to because it'll

690
00:58:54,319 --> 00:59:00,000
be in the in the other one.
>> Okay. Motion by commission. Seconded by

691
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:06,160
secondary.
Any discussion? All those in favor say

692
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:10,319
I. Motion carries. Uh item number seven
is approval of checks issued. And in

693
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:18,280
your package we had checks from also
from August the 7th through August the

694
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:18,280
20th for a total of 1,54,938.81.

695
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,920
Motion to approve
presented.

696
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,119
» I'll second that with the corrections if
if any have to be made. No, we don't

697
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,319
have to make it because I'll put in on
the agenda item bring it up. So,

698
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,799
» all right, sounds good. I'll second it.
>> Got a motion second. All those in favor

699
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:36,799
say I.
>> Motion carries. Item number eight, tax

700
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,640
special collection department report. I
know Daniel, you were at a conference at

701
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,160
our regular scheduled meeting. So, I
appreciate you coming in.

702
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,480
» Yes. And I don't want to blame anybody,
but

703
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:50,160
» but
>> the documents were on my desk. I just

704
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,359
didn't see them. I was supposed to. We
don't have the report.

705
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,760
» I we don't have them with me, but
>> I'll go ahead and read them.

706
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:58,240
» They're just go ahead and read them out.
>> I think that they were in the packet.

707
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:02,000
» They were.
>> They were.

708
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:07,799
» All right. Uh collections for the month
of July general fund, we collected

709
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:07,799
$67,43

710
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:14,920
and 1 cent interest. Uh we did have
refunds of $684.83.

711
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:24,599
I wish I could speak with the gentleman.
Um but interest in thinking. Uh we

712
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,599
collected $29,344.86

713
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:33,480
with $78.37
in refunds. Farm to market $24.92

714
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:40,680
in refunds. Special road and bridge we
collected $8,99423

715
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:44,200
with $11.37.

716
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,680
Total collections for the month was
$117,854.37

717
01:00:52,880 --> 01:01:02,079
and that was for taxes only. Then we go
down to fees and other collections tax

718
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:05,079
certificates we had $4 hotel motel tax
$4,56369

719
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:15,440
copies and faxes $2.25
interest earnings $6.50

720
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:18,440
with a net collection of 122
43081.

721
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:22,119
Um

722
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:29,000
dispersements uh to the treasur
$110,34463

723
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,200
del attorneys $12,8618.

724
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:47,799
Hotel motel tax we have year to date
a total of $64,5183

725
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:58,960
and this is of course through July we
still have collections hopefully up for

726
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:04,400
August September
>> another yeah we might get to 70

727
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:09,839
» I don't know that we'll have 100,000 but
>> no no that was so we adjusted that in

728
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:13,839
the proposed budget yes Okay. Yes.
>> We didn't have expenditures of 100,000.

729
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,559
» It's healthy.
>> Yeah.

730
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:21,200
» Um
our collection rate was 80. Total

731
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:26,559
collection rate for the month of July
was 88.72%

732
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:31,440
compared to last year's 88.90. So we're
slightly below, but pretty much there.

733
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,839
» So um
>> get to 92.

734
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:42,880
» We're going to get to 92.
That's another thing to consider on on

735
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:47,760
our budgets before budgets. We hope for
92 optimistic about hopeful about

736
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:52,000
getting to 92%.
Um

737
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,799
» I don't I mean people are coming in. I'm
really surprised that

738
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:57,280
» what do you what percentage you estimate
that we're

739
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:02,119
» 90 89?
>> Yeah. Maybe maybe about 89.

740
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:13,440
» That's another reason why they have some
Yeah, we don't uh we're not we're not as

741
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:18,720
high as the anticipated collection
amount of 92% but it's

742
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:22,799
» we've gotten there a few years but
lately it's

743
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:26,599
» it's not it hasn't
>> okay thank you

744
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:34,640
» report presentation item number nine is
a presentation from community limited on

745
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:38,400
sapata county broadband access status of
prior to state federal ederal funded

746
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:41,920
projects and any direction for
additional research from commissioners

747
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:46,760
Mr. Mark Pearson.
>> Mark, good to see you again.

748
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,760
» Yes.

749
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:54,640
» Yes. You were here maybe a month ago,
Mark, when was here a little longer

750
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:58,640
» in uh yeah, in early June and then uh
Okay.

751
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:01,799
» And then briefly in July also. And uh
>> Thank you.

752
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,880
» Good morning, sir.

753
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,520
Strawberry.

754
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,119
» Okay, sure.

755
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,240
» Good morning. Y'all have a full agenda,
so nod at me. talk a little faster.

756
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:40,799
» Okay. All right.
>> Important things here. So, I'm uh Mark

757
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:45,359
Pearson. I'm with a nonprofit group,
Communities Unlimited. Um it's been

758
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:49,920
around 50 years. Uh works in seven
southern states based Fedville,

759
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:53,680
Arkansas. Um but I live I live in
Austin. I've worked for them most of the

760
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:59,039
time since 2004 except for a couple
years with the Texas Water. And Zapata

761
01:04:56,799 --> 01:05:01,920
County had some has some experience in
the past with Communities Unlimited.

762
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,154
about half of our group provides some
assistance around water utilities and

763
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,839
water infrastructure. So,
[clears throat]

764
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:13,359
» so I have a couple of good friends,
retired workers, Gonzalez, some others

765
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:18,799
that have been provid
>> I'm on a smaller um team around

766
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:22,640
broadband and we are not an internet
service provider and will never be an

767
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:27,520
internet service provider, but just from
that perspective across kind of the

768
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:31,039
southern southern states that we work in
um

769
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:33,760
some of our smaller communities and more
rural communities as that expansion

770
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:37,440
happens
How do we make sure that those least

771
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:42,559
served places, least served communities
are at the table as we're doing that

772
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:46,079
broadband deployment? And so, um, I've,
uh, spent most of my career around that

773
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:49,599
wire infrastructure work. And in about
three years, I've been trying to learn

774
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,119
broadband as fast as I can on our
smaller team. And I tell folks, I think

775
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,359
I'm about up to first grade level now
because I switched all the letters and

776
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,400
numbers.
>> Yes, of course.

777
01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:03,039
» Trying to learn as fast as I can.
>> And so, I think there's a little bit of

778
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:06,960
a a privilege that I've got because my
has been paid for really to be a

779
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:11,440
resource to folks in communities like
yourselves and other places. Um that

780
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:16,799
I've gotten to do some deep dive into
that. Um our broadband program director

781
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:20,079
Katherine Grants did a lot of work with
uh connected nation doing some broadband

782
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:23,839
planning
around the state and other places. We

783
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:28,559
have a small team of broadband technical
assistance providers. But specifically

784
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:34,160
uh the reason that I'm here um wanting
to connect with all of you and met with

785
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:38,079
Jell earlier is that this year Methodist
Healthcare Ministries that's a

786
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:41,680
philanthropy group in South Texas had
asked us to pay attention to kind of

787
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:46,720
12count area
>> I appreciate that. Yeah.

788
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:49,920
» Yeah. And um and I think Yeah. And I so
I think I would speak highly of them and

789
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:56,000
just their attention kind of that same
mission that we're looking at. And so

790
01:06:52,480 --> 01:07:00,079
because of that, um, we're kind of a
resource. Like there's no cost to the

791
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:03,599
county and I've done a little bit of
research, but y'all that live close to

792
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:07,920
the community and close to the ground
and drive the county roads know what

793
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:12,319
really is happening here. And so I would
kind of welcome input from you. Uh, if

794
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:16,240
we can, I'm going to take maybe five 10
minutes and try to kind of run quickly

795
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:22,000
through some of the for you.
>> Okay. and then um and just kind of give

796
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:28,160
just a few information points, some kind
of high points. And then I would also um

797
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:34,000
welcome I'm going to email out later uh
there's about five or six different

798
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:38,480
websites basically that um that are kind
of where some of this information

799
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:41,680
sources from and that is available some
ways in a lot more detail than it used

800
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:47,200
to be. You can put in your h house
address. You can put in a constituent's

801
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:52,400
address and zoom down to it and see what
service is per reported at that location

802
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:56,480
level. So, there's a couple FCC maps and
there are a couple maps from the state

803
01:07:53,839 --> 01:08:03,280
Texas broad development office and
something like that. Beyond that, um I I

804
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:06,480
would be very open and I know to do kind
of workshop items, you'll have need to

805
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:11,520
have public notice, but if there are any
other commissioners wanted to have a 30

806
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:15,760
minute Zoom meeting at some point or or
to your judgment longer, but if you want

807
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:19,279
me to keep 30 minutes to dive into your
uh your precincts and if you have

808
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:24,799
specific questions about what's where or
some information to follow up on. Um,

809
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:28,080
and so I think
um I think part of it like I know that I

810
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:32,400
come from far away and I will never know
the things that you guys know. So one we

811
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:36,319
need to keep the federal data, the state
data honest and then keep it relevant

812
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:40,319
too because in my opinion this is kind
of like an active work site and so let's

813
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,759
make sure it's doing smart work and
we're

814
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:48,960
with that. I'm going to try to move a
little quicker into those handouts

815
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:54,640
there.
And so just really for reference for

816
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,839
y'all that um and show these as we go.
That first bro bro bro bro bro bro bro

817
01:08:55,839 --> 01:08:59,359
bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro
bro bro bro brochure is just about the

818
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:03,040
communities unlimited broadband program
and if you're not familiar with this

819
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:07,839
I'll also put the link for our our group
in there um we have some group that does

820
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,040
US treasury CDFI lending if they're
small businesses and entrepreneurs

821
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:16,080
especially rural places we want to
restrict to those encourage those some

822
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:20,560
of the other areas we work um the the
next page that is just kind of black and

823
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:26,159
white text for you
is what is reported at the latest The

824
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:32,080
internet service providers are all
required to report to the FCC every six

825
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:38,000
months where they have service and what
speed levels and what technology types

826
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:46,560
and and so that updates the um the
reporting the data we were using um

827
01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:51,040
uh was June 30th 2025. They've got a
about a five month lag before they get

828
01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:57,440
all that processed and make it public.
And so miday they released the December

829
01:09:54,080 --> 01:10:02,000
31st reported data and uh some of that
is only as good as the ISPs the telecom

830
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,760
providers give them and I've seen other
rural areas where maybe a small provider

831
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:10,239
I don't know if they're busy or forgot
or just didn't report one time. So

832
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:13,120
there's a little bit of keeping it
honest. There's also in the beginning of

833
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,400
this I think there were some of them
were kind of rounding up on what they

834
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:22,560
were serving. It kind of was kind of
hopeful. Uh so here it shows in Zapata

835
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:26,080
County um just under 7,000 broadband
serviceable locations. So those would

836
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:30,400
include like homes and business
locations.

837
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:34,239
And then uh down below it shows Spectrum
is kind of your largest provider with

838
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:41,760
the cable internet service and that's
what serves town here. And then

839
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:46,480
and then below uh the other ones I'm
going to draw a note to is there's a

840
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:50,719
licensed fixed wireless is what's coming
over kind of the towers with the radio

841
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:55,440
signals and increasingly that's like
your your cell phone providers are doing

842
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:59,120
that Verizon T-Mobile. Uh the other ones
of note here the Texoma fiber and the

843
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:04,080
bordertoorder communications that have
some fiber deployment. Um, we'll talk

844
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:07,440
about some of the funding in a minute,
but that's a group that um that was

845
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:11,360
originally out of Kurville. It's bought
by Oklahoma. It's now Hillary

846
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Communications and I think they're under
construction on some of that project.

847
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:21,199
» Um, do any of y'all have service from
Border Communications or Hillary?

848
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,920
» I I have border border, but I don't have
fiber,

849
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,560
» but not fiber. Is it that fixed wireless
signal?

850
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,719
» I believe the whole town has just fixed
wired. I don't think

851
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:36,000
» I think the I think the fiber is in
actually the sunny NASA area.

852
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:39,840
» That's where the fiber optic was laid
with that grant that they received maybe

853
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,880
four or five years ago.
>> When I was here last, I was pulling over

854
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:46,800
looking at their markers on the side of
the road and I saw that at Sanasio

855
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:51,440
there. Have they had any other
construction in the county or active?

856
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:55,280
» I haven't seen other construction. We
were hoping they'd get up some or

857
01:11:53,040 --> 01:12:01,120
outline areas that that don't have
access, but they didn't make it to

858
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:05,440
Las. No, they didn't make it to look
>> or even there towards our landfield and

859
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,960
stuff.
>> Okay, we I've I've got several calls

860
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,400
into them
>> and until you find the people on the

861
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:16,880
management side of the telecom company,
sometimes they're hard to get.

862
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:22,480
» They were difficult to uh contact,
>> but I I confident we'll keep trying

863
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:26,320
until we talk to someone with them. And
uh and then I think the other questions

864
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:33,520
here.
>> So I'm seeing that like Spectrum I guess

865
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:40,560
provides the majority almost 6,000
fiber over a thousand. What's the

866
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:45,440
difference in quality or speed?
>> So that's that's a good point. So

867
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:49,199
broadbands like as a definition what
we're talking about is just highspeed

868
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:55,360
internet and that definition they
changed about two years ago from 25

869
01:12:52,239 --> 01:13:01,040
megabits per second down and 3 up to 100
megabits per second down and 20 up and

870
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:04,159
cable service should be able to do that.
>> Okay.

871
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:09,040
» Um but some ways the fiber is kind of
your bestinass service right now. So

872
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:13,440
that's the Cadillac. Yeah.
>> So what I understand from fiber is

873
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:18,480
you'll get true numbers. If you have a
contract for 300 megabytes, you're

874
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:22,640
getting 300 no matter the interference
between a thousand customers logging

875
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:29,199
into one line which will tend to drop
your megabytes per second and fiber you.

876
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:35,280
» Yeah.
So what's it and why haven't fiber been

877
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:39,280
expanded more in our area because we
have cable is that

878
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:42,000
» that's that's a good short Yeah, that's
a good short answer to some of that is

879
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:46,000
that
>> there there have been various attempts

880
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:51,040
over time to use the federal money
primarily to get service to all.

881
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:53,920
» We've had several companies come and
pitch their fiber

882
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:59,679
» pitch their own service
>> service to to for Sapata County to get

883
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:03,280
hooked up with with fiber. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And I And I think there's one thing with

884
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:07,440
the the county specifically getting
their service like you got to do your

885
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,199
procurement and do due diligence on
that. The more fiber companies that will

886
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,040
come to one place, the more options
you've got and that helps with pricing.

887
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,640
I live in the middle of North Austin for
the last 20 something years where

888
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:23,520
probably people moved in and didn't move
out for kids. And so I had cable

889
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:27,199
internet for 15 of those years. It was
good mostly. And it kind of depends like

890
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:31,440
anything else that the maintenance is
being managed

891
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:34,320
» and uh and so there was there was about
six months sometime in there where I

892
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,400
don't know if they were getting some
water into some boxes some problems

893
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:42,320
happening but you you got to call them
and keep them honest and do your speed

894
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:45,360
test and get it fixed and I think with
with some communities what we see in

895
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:49,679
other places now in Spectrum
specifically but with um with some

896
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:54,159
communities that aren't their largest
communities they're off prioritizing

897
01:14:52,080 --> 01:15:00,480
their capital management projects and so
on our street like Spectrum has replaced

898
01:14:57,199 --> 01:15:04,400
Fiber AT&T that was the telephone lines
replaced it with Fibernet

899
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,239
» and are receiving federal funding for
that or that

900
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:11,040
» No.
>> So that that was my my question. I know

901
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:16,080
they're the the fiber currently is like
in the outskirts of of town, but it's

902
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:20,719
not here in town. You can get it to
local businesses and maybe even

903
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:24,719
residents, but it'll be a cost to them.
>> Yeah. To build to build out from that.

904
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:29,520
And I think
>> I think part of that is um the places

905
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:34,480
that there are two things. One with the
federal funding we don't we don't want

906
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:38,560
to use the federal grant dollars to
build over building a fourth fiber run

907
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:42,239
in front of my house in Austin. It's not
a good use. The private market is

908
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:46,880
getting that done. observation on some
of this funding the last three years

909
01:15:43,679 --> 01:15:50,560
paying attention the uh the bead funding
through NI was supposed to be the

910
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:56,719
internet to all to finish things like we
did rural telephone and rural electric

911
01:15:53,360 --> 01:16:00,560
» and uh and part of what that induced was
a lot of these private providers to like

912
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,920
kind of get up and move into some areas
they hadn't been before. So I think

913
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:07,199
that's a that's a story that doesn't get
as told as much as that public funding

914
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:11,520
and do some private funding to the table
also and to try to get out there with

915
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:15,040
the public funding that's invested. I
think we need to kind of keep an eye on

916
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:18,560
that know where it is have relationships
with those those ISPs and is there

917
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:22,320
anything we can do to like smooth the
way to help them get there and then I

918
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:26,640
think when they do get there the other
part of that I've been mostly focused on

919
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:31,280
the access part. part of our team. The
other guy from the nonprofit that met

920
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:35,280
with us um in June is focused more on
the digital skills side and I know that

921
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,120
was that was one of the items in the
proclamation a minute ago is

922
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:42,800
connectivity and digital skills correct
>> and it's important for the healthare

923
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:47,600
it's important for education it's
important for business once you got that

924
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:51,199
fiber to that location or good internet
any remote work job somebody can do

925
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,600
anywhere they can do it from that
location

926
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:57,760
» I know there's currently a grant right
that uh South Texas development board

927
01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:02,800
council is trying to to acquire for for
broadband expansion.

928
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:08,960
» Yeah. Our area cog council government is
is actively pursuing those federally

929
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:13,920
funded uh grants that that would be he
may be eligible for. But we haven't seen

930
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:18,000
any anything funded yet for us.
>> So I think that's what with what I'm

931
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:21,920
kind of going here like I've got some
numbers and data I could could plow

932
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:26,560
through. So, I know they they do have a
current uh I guess like a

933
01:17:24,003 --> 01:17:33,040
[clears throat] community uh group where
they discuss all of broadband. So, you

934
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:38,239
might want to get a hold of uh with Juan
Ju Rodriguez with with a cog with the

935
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:43,040
South Texas Board Council of Laredo and
maybe you can join their group and in in

936
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:46,239
efforts to you know give all your
information that you've currently

937
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:51,679
collected and it'll make it a hard uh
you know stable. I actually met with him

938
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:54,320
and the folks went to him the day after
I met with you in June.

939
01:17:53,920 --> 01:18:00,000
» Okay.
>> And then um when they had the came to

940
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:03,199
the STDC meeting that was here in July,
I was late getting to that meeting.

941
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,679
» I was like he looks familiar. I think
I've seen you there.

942
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:11,199
» We spoke with on the way out of there.
But I've also spoken with with Melissa

943
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:16,239
Gonzalez with lower lower valley
development that's going to partner with

944
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:20,640
them and and that scope of work is that
through some of the stateing

945
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:25,840
There is a request through TARP, the
Association of Regional Councils that

946
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:30,560
STDC and Laura for three years of
funding to support broadband planning

947
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:34,560
and in my my opinion like the planning
would have been better like four or five

948
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:38,400
years ago, but because they said yes, we
want to make that relevant and and a

949
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:43,040
good use of it. So what that does is
fund essentially a position at HCO. In

950
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:47,440
this case, Lower Valley is partnering
with STDC for this next three years and

951
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:52,159
they're going to do a lot of good
community listing and I think I think

952
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:56,000
around that like this information that
we've done that focus a little bit more

953
01:18:53,760 --> 01:19:00,719
on access but also you want the partners
at the table as if there are any grant

954
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:06,880
funds whether it's for veterans or for
schools for the devices and legal skills

955
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:10,239
learning I think um I think the Zapata
County that I think Roxy explained the

956
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,840
story when I was first here about how
they decided to replace the the

957
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:17,600
courthouse real quick and like let's
tear it down and do quick so I feel like

958
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,360
there's a lot of like learning like
let's make things happen and so I feel

959
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:24,560
like this is like the homework stage and
that group is the one where if you've

960
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,679
got a good committee to be part of that
homework that's one of the suggestions I

961
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:32,800
would make that I don't want to depend
on me to help do some forming that there

962
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:37,360
was a somewhat informal Zapata county
broadband committee coalition task force

963
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:41,040
I got to be part of a bast county task
force the last three years that had some

964
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,640
county participation one county
commissioner their development

965
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:49,199
coordinator as needed they would pull in
their IT person procurement person, but

966
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:53,280
it wasn't their funds really. And then
they had some really robust nonprofits

967
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:56,320
that here I think would be like the
library supports the county, but

968
01:19:54,719 --> 01:19:59,520
somebody from the schools, the boys and
girls

969
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:05,920
» and also the community. I believe we had
we also have a local uh contractors that

970
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:10,080
have actually worked on fiber projects.
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. that knowledge

971
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:14,320
would be good and having that kind of
informal community if it's not a county

972
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:17,840
function specifically sometimes having
like a county participation there's a

973
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:21,440
commissioner it gets people's attention
that's what gets a high speed to the

974
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:25,040
meeting but if you have people that have
some freedom to just ask questions like

975
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:29,840
what's the timeline and ask good
questions be ready there's a little bit

976
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:37,360
comparisons
Mark on the county by county we're we're

977
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:40,239
okay I
I believe

978
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:44,239
» I think Jimhawk County was a little bit
more rural than we are and looks like

979
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:48,239
their fiber they've got almost entirely
fiber. How did that happen?

980
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:52,560
» I I my my take is that I think so much
of the county lives in Heville

981
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:58,239
» and a provider got there. So I would say
most of that 85% is in Heville and the

982
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,640
outline is more federal funding.
>> Yeah. So that was good. They did well.

983
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:04,000
Yeah.
>> Yeah. And I think it's I think it's the

984
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:08,400
fact that y'all had had spectrum which
can be good but you need to keep them

985
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:12,000
honest here. And then I think also
>> I think fiber is all over the place

986
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:14,560
right now. I mean I see them all over
the radio hooking up.

987
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:19,800
» That's right. Yeah, that's right. And
those and there's a lot of private

988
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,800
investment companies.

989
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:26,080
» And then I think as you're having
conversations with those ISPs like the

990
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:30,800
Hillary Communications Communications,
that informal group has has the ability

991
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:35,440
to ask questions like what So what rates
are you charging? And so the the going

992
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:40,159
thing for fiber was like one gig down,
one gig up, symmetric. And then like six

993
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:44,480
months ago, they started advertising my
house 5 gig down, five gig up,

994
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:48,400
» and then 8 gig down and 8 gig up.
>> No matter how much my 16-year-old games,

995
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:51,760
he doesn't need 8 gigs down, eight up.
>> But if you have a senior, like one

996
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:56,960
person in a house and a good fiber
connection, like that that lowest plan

997
01:21:54,159 --> 01:22:02,400
might be 100 down, 100 up, and that
would probably like stream the TV and be

998
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:06,800
able to computer and things you need. So
here just rapidly green is what's

999
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:12,400
served. That's 100 down 20 amp. It
doesn't really matter what technology

1000
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:16,800
could be copper cable wire fix wireless
as long as it's 100 down 20 up. We're

1001
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:18,719
kind of aiming for better. Uh this is
the comparison to the region.

1002
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,080
» Yes,
>> judge is right. The counties north were

1003
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,800
a little bit behind y'all. That's why I
started with them and worked our way

1004
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:28,960
here. But we still want to do good work
in the county. This is the funded

1005
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,239
projects in Zapata County. Okay.
>> So that borderto border communications

1006
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:36,880
shows that they were going to build out
to,240 locations in the county. My

1007
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:41,000
understanding is with fiber is what that
is.

1008
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,000
» And I don't

1009
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:49,360
» Yeah. And I think like $5 million grant
and like a good bit alone. So they've

1010
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:54,400
got their own skin on that project with
customers. But that can't all be inside

1011
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:58,159
of the 1240 location.
>> Yeah.

1012
01:22:55,280 --> 01:23:03,120
» And the last two kind of maps here this
That's kind of the footprint of where

1013
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:06,560
that USDA reconnect project is that um
that Hillary Communications World

1014
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:10,239
Reporter has. And that's the kind of
part that if there if y'all had time 30

1015
01:23:08,719 --> 01:23:14,719
minutes or something, this is relevant
to your precinct to zoom in what we

1016
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:18,800
know. Is that there already or is it not
there? We could ask what's coming. The

1017
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:23,840
last one is what was meant to finish the
job and with that NIB funding through

1018
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:26,080
the broadband development office. They
didn't want to duplicate any federal

1019
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,679
funding,
>> right?

1020
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:31,520
» And we don't want them to do that with
tax dollars either. But they did a

1021
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:36,400
competitive process for the state the
awards because those were mostly rural

1022
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:42,400
kind of individual locations around that
reconnect award where to SpaceX for

1023
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:46,880
Starlink service and the the question
that I've got on that like kind of

1024
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:51,199
alongside you would be so what what
actually is the bargain? framed as a

1025
01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:55,520
capacity grant to SpaceX to reserve
capacity for those locations. They're

1026
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,960
different than other internet providers.
If you subscribe to Spectrum or to one

1027
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,280
of the others, they're going to come to
the house and they're going to hook up a

1028
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:04,800
router. They're going to make sure it
works and show you how to connect it. To

1029
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:09,440
this point with SpaceX and Starlink,
which is a great technology for the

1030
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:14,080
remote location, remote ranch open sky.
It's really pretty cool. But to to this

1031
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,800
point, they have been they kept their
cost. There's almost no customer

1032
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:20,080
service. you get to the website, order
it, they'll ship it to you. When we get

1033
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:23,199
it, you figure out how to hook [snorts]
it up. And so if we had some individual

1034
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,880
seniors or someone that had a little
less ability to do that themselves one,

1035
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:31,360
there's a question, is there any support
for getting that connected? My second

1036
01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:35,360
question was all of the applicants that
funding were supposed to have a low cost

1037
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:40,159
requirement in their application and I
haven't seen that yet and I did a public

1038
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:45,280
information request a month ago, more
than 10 business days, but uh we're

1039
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:49,360
trying to work on I would just like to
that agreement that's a contract between

1040
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:52,480
the state what they're going to provide
because in my opinion the community

1041
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:57,280
level if you have constituents that
that's the work for those houses those

1042
01:24:55,120 --> 01:25:01,040
and and it's now it's about 150 houses
all in the county but like let's know

1043
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,520
what the deal is so they can ask for the
deal

1044
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,920
» appreciate that Mark I think you
provided us with a lot of information I

1045
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:12,960
know
>> uh it was rapid fire but but I think

1046
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:18,159
you've got all the commissioners uh
contact info I think if you visit with

1047
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:22,080
with each one more, you know, they're
more familiar with their precincts, what

1048
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:24,880
their needs may be that that anything
that you can help us with.

1049
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:28,719
» Well, your your company was also
affiliated with uh the transformation in

1050
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,840
Kingsville, right? Or were you not part
of that when they transformed everything

1051
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,719
to fiber?
>> Uh not

1052
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:39,520
» I know we discussed it in our STDC
meeting. maybe the company that was uh

1053
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:43,120
that you were trying to uh correlate
with there in that meeting

1054
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:47,600
» that that might have been the other the
other nonprofit group that had some

1055
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:49,920
support from Methus might have had some
work there

1056
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:54,480
» and then to the south there's a really
strong RGB coalition correct had work

1057
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:58,400
with far down there fiber and supporting
Brownsville and some of those other

1058
01:25:55,679 --> 01:26:02,880
projects based and I think that was the
space that was kind of saying how how do

1059
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:06,239
we encourage some of that here we just
go a little deeper

1060
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:09,440
» so thank you for the time. Thank you,
Mark.

1061
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:15,760
» Yes, we'll keep in touch. See when any
of that funding really becomes available

1062
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:17,920
to I know we've applied for it, but
>> competitive

1063
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,360
» and I think and I think to the last
comments on that funding there's to me

1064
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:25,280
like the eye on the ball with the
funding right now and and not

1065
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:28,480
everything's due to funding. I think I
think with good volunteers with the

1066
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:33,840
right ideas sometimes that's more
important than funding. Um because of

1067
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:38,800
some of the change in administrations
and directions, there was alongside the

1068
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:45,199
B funding what was framed as digital
equity act funding that was pulled back

1069
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:48,800
but there was um
some settlement some

1070
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:52,080
» so some of that funding didn't
materialize.

1071
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,840
» The word is that it actually as of last
week two weeks ago it might be back on

1072
01:26:54,159 --> 01:27:00,800
the table. They might have guidelines on
that funding by December.

1073
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:05,679
» Okay. So I think for us like it's if
that happens this is a good homework

1074
01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:09,760
phase with that work with SDC out if
there are specific apps that are ready

1075
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:13,920
to go then when that comes down the
grant writers or whoever could ask for

1076
01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:17,600
that. So that's one is the digital
equity. Sometimes it's digital

1077
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:21,280
opportunity funding. Some of that may
also open up to come back through the

1078
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:25,120
state again. The Texas Broadband
Development Office is our agency that's

1079
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:30,080
only four or five years old. We didn't
have one before this funding started. Uh

1080
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:35,280
it's housed under the controllers office
and it's kind of hit the news some in

1081
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:38,560
the last month. Um it had the be funding
the change in controller. They put it on

1082
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:42,320
hold for a minute. They're kind of
auditing those programs. Hopefully they

1083
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:46,800
get that done quickly. So we can keep
with it. There's not a

1084
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:50,080
» wealth of information. Mark we can be
here on the whole morning.

1085
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:54,320
» Let me give you two sentences and quick
last two sentences of money. The that

1086
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:59,920
that beef money for Texas was $3.3
billion. We only asked for a billion of

1087
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:04,960
it when they took those bids because so
much was served already in that that

1088
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:09,280
private meown. There's$2 billion left
over that they considered non-deployment

1089
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:12,719
funding. And so part of the question is
is that going to be a savings just to

1090
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:16,320
the federal government or it was
eligible for these other uses. Do we

1091
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:21,280
need a cleanup round when did we miss
any locations or can that be used?

1092
01:28:20,719 --> 01:28:25,760
» What's that?
>> Sapa being one of there's a need. Yes.

1093
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:30,960
» Yeah. I think being ready at the table.
So that's be it unemployment coming

1094
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:35,040
through the state. Also, all of us voted
on a broadband infrastructure fund on a

1095
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:39,199
statewide ballot several years ago that
authorized 1.5 billion for a Texas

1096
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:43,440
broadband infrastructure fund. There's
about 700 million of that. It's not

1097
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:46,320
allocated yet. And because of the
attention of that broadband development

1098
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:50,000
office, I think the legislature is
probably going to give more guidance on

1099
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:54,400
what uses of that can be. That's the
source of funding for the $8.7 million

1100
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:58,960
that's funding that TRDP for the
planning grant. So, that's that's tax

1101
01:28:56,239 --> 01:29:02,960
dollars we need as well, but that's on
the table. So my thought is those two

1102
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:07,280
general plots of money, how do you make
the best use of those first before like

1103
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:11,040
those Texas dollars and then how do you
make the best use of those Texas

1104
01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:14,560
dollars? Last pleasant comment, the
broadband roundts that have monthly like

1105
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,679
for the last three years I've been on
there where they're giving information

1106
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:21,679
briefing. There's usually 50 60 people
in there and we got 254 counties and I

1107
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:25,600
made the comment on there like several
times like that tells me it's on

1108
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:29,199
» most of the state is not in that room
and so I think if yall find a volunter

1109
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:32,880
if someone who's done the construction
of fiber or if it's one of the schools

1110
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:36,480
like let's get that representative or
that information

1111
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:41,600
just to be ready for.
>> Okay. Sorry for

1112
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:45,280
» keep in touch Mark. Thank you
>> commissioners. Uh moving on the action

1113
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:48,639
item will deliberate consider action
item number 10 is to approve the

1114
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:52,719
correction of two regular commissioners
court meetings scheduled for September

1115
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:56,560
the 8th and September the 21st to
September the 14th and September 28th.

1116
01:29:55,280 --> 01:30:01,440
Last year, commissioners, when we
approved the calendar, uh we there was a

1117
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:06,320
mistake on it's the second and fourth
Mondays of each uh month for a regular

1118
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:09,679
commissioner's court meeting. And
certainly this year, September 8th is

1119
01:30:08,239 --> 01:30:13,040
not the first second Monday.
>> Motion to approve the correction on both

1120
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:17,280
commissioners court meetings.
>> Motion by Commissioner Solis to approve

1121
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:22,800
the two regular commission court
meetings to September 14th and September

1122
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:25,760
28th. Seconded by Commissioner Morades.
Any discussion? All those in favor say

1123
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:31,360
I. I.
>> Motion carries. Item number 11.

1124
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:32,800
» Clarification. I I Roxy told me about
this issue. I'm sorry, Miss M

1125
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:37,800
Mississippi Miss Mississippi Miss

1126
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:37,800
Mississippi Miss Mississippi Miss

1127
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:37,800
Mississippi Miss Mississippi Miss

1128
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:38,639
Mississippi miss Mississippi miss
Mississippi miss Mississippi miss

1129
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:42,000
um and though we are required by by uh
statute

1130
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:46,320
» to have the meeting on September 14th
because the error was for also the 21st.

1131
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:51,280
I suggested just make it a
commissioner's court action item to

1132
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:55,120
adjust both meetings and that way. Yeah,
it was just a taco. It was a mistake.

1133
01:30:53,600 --> 01:31:00,440
So, okay.
>> Item number 11 is to return $36,63.72

1134
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:06,480
in unspent funds from the rural law
enforcement grant salary assistant

1135
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:10,960
program from fiscal year 24. Yes,
commissioner. This is from the sheriff

1136
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:17,880
department. The first year of the SP22,
uh the $350,000 was allocated. Uh we

1137
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,880
didn't spend $36,63.72

1138
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,400
of it. So, we need to return that back
to the state.

1139
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:31,280
It was just uh since it was the initial
I'm not sure what what the church

1140
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:36,320
appointment that time and 24 did but uh
after the audit that was conducted they

1141
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:41,120
notified us that we hadn't spent the
entire 350,000

1142
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:45,360
» motion to approve the return of 36,603
with 72 cents

1143
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:49,440
» motion to approve by commissioner to
return the unspent fund seconded by

1144
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:53,600
commissioner Moya. Any discussion? All
those in favor say I. I.

1145
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:58,480
» Motion carries. Item number 12 is to
approve payment for pending invoice of

1146
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:03,520
$1,818.75
to Bob Barker for inmate hygiene

1147
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:07,920
supplies for the county jail.
>> Morning, Captain.

1148
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:09,920
» Morning, judge.
>> Is this what you're talking about the

1149
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:16,159
increase?
>> Yes. The we're having to buy a lot of

1150
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:20,800
stuff for the gel for hygiene supplies.
>> Sure. that we're already out of funds

1151
01:32:18,639 --> 01:32:25,360
and it's just
>> do you want to Well, we can go one by

1152
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:28,360
one. Let's go to the the payment
of,18.75

1153
01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:34,960
cents to Bob Barker. Now, will this
cover the remaining of the year or need

1154
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,239
to need?
>> This should cover the remaining of the

1155
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:41,440
year. That's why I order uh sanitary
napkins,

1156
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,600
uh shampoos, and toothpaste. That's
basically

1157
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:47,199
» everything for the next month. Yeah.
>> Yeah. We should be good till past

1158
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:52,159
October with that.
>> And does this cover the requirements set

1159
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:56,440
forth by the state of jail standards?
>> Yes.

1160
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:56,440
» So, it's a necessary exper

1161
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:05,440
$1,818.75
invoice to Bob Barker. All those in

1162
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:10,400
favor say I. I.
>> Motion carries. Item number 13 is to

1163
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:16,480
approve the hiring of a C cook for the
regional jail department 560 slot 31.

1164
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:22,480
» It's to fill one of the vacant slots. We
had one of our our cooks leave at the

1165
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:25,520
regional jail. So we are down to one
cook there.

1166
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:30,159
» That's a big meal every day.
>> Yeah. 140 to 160 plates a day. So three

1167
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,840
times a day.
>> And you have you have somebody already?

1168
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:36,880
We have a cook and then we get one from
the female right now sometimes to go

1169
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:39,120
help when they do need it.
>> Okay.

1170
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:43,040
» But the advantage that we have at the at
the regional is that we do have trustees

1171
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:48,080
uh when we do have them in place. They
do help out with the workload. But as

1172
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:51,040
far as taking the days off or getting
days off, it's what's right.

1173
01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:53,920
» Do you have them on chipboard?
>> Yes.

1174
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,880
» Motion to approve the hiring of a cook
for the regional job.

1175
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,400
» Motion by Commissioner Solis. Is there a
second?

1176
01:33:57,679 --> 01:34:02,560
» I'll second it.
>> Second by Commissioner Gata. Any

1177
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:08,560
discussion? All those in favor say I.
Motion carries. 14 to approve payment of

1178
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:13,360
for pending invoice for $4192
to Bob Barker Company for inmate hygiene

1179
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:16,960
supplies and clothing. Same thing here.
>> That's for the reason.

1180
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:18,000
» Yes. Motion. Motion by Commissioner
Saliz.

1181
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:22,000
» Second.
>> Second by Commissioner Gasa. Any

1182
01:34:19,679 --> 01:34:29,280
discussion? All those in favor say I.
>> I. Motion carries 15 to approve payment

1183
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:33,520
for pending invoice for $650 to joke AC
and electric for electrical and low

1184
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:37,600
voltage installation
for the jail regional jail.

1185
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:41,600
» Yes, they had to install some electrical
receptors, Ethernet data cables for

1186
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:44,159
computer installed.
>> Okay,

1187
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:47,840
second.
>> Motion by Commissioner Ga to approve

1188
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:52,880
payment. Seconded by Commissioner Solis.
All those in favor say I.

1189
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:59,920
» I. Motion carries. 16 to approve payment
for pend pending invoice of $29941

1190
01:34:57,199 --> 01:35:03,840
to hold cap for generator repairs. This
is yeah the generator

1191
01:35:02,239 --> 01:35:09,120
» reading into it. They literally did
nothing and charges $29.

1192
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:13,199
» It says that they inspected it, cleaned
it, and that was it. That's the They put

1193
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:14,719
it under repairs, but it's actually the
maintenance

1194
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,719
» the maintenance on.
>> Yeah, it's a year maintenance or

1195
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:22,480
» they put it under repairs, but it's
actual maintenance that was in that was

1196
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:25,040
needed for the for the
>> the hours.

1197
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:29,840
» Is it under warranty? This one?
>> No, that's the original generator.

1198
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:33,120
» They charged a bunch on just coming.
>> Yeah. The thing is that like anything

1199
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:38,239
that's hold caterpillar if you've ever
dealt with like 18 weeks ago.

1200
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:42,239
» Uh anything hold caterpillar. when I
started working at the facility when I

1201
01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:45,120
saw the generator I was like bunch of
repairs that's hope is

1202
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,800
» but it's working good
>> right now that's important yes

1203
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:53,600
» and the maintenance is going to be every
>> they do it depending on the hours like

1204
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:56,560
there's certain years it'll be once a
year and there's some pump that has to

1205
01:35:54,880 --> 01:36:00,639
be twice a year depending on what
whether it's fluids or whether it's just

1206
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:04,639
an inspection sometimes the fluids have
to be changed on the hours the generator

1207
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:09,600
does start up every Saturday on its own
it has an automatic function test Uh, so

1208
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:15,199
all of that and then there's times where
you do have issues where the generator

1209
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,120
either has a false start and we do have
to call them.

1210
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,760
» So we're talking about the hours. Are
you going to call them when we reach

1211
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:24,800
those hours or do they
>> We do it once a year. One year we'll do

1212
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:29,760
it once a year and then on the other
year it's twice which is one inspection

1213
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:32,920
and one fluid change. So
>> to approve

1214
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:40,000
approve the payment to hold cat by
commissioner seconded by commissioner.

1215
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,600
Any discussion? All those in favor say
I. I.

1216
01:36:40,719 --> 01:36:44,480
» Motion carries.
>> Thank you.

1217
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:50,400
» Thank you captain. Thank you.
>> Item number 17 is to approve renewal of

1218
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:54,320
malware vice antivirus software for one
additional year.

1219
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,239
Good morning Mr. Garcin.
>> Morning sir.

1220
01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:00,560
» Morning commissioners.
>> Good morning.

1221
01:36:57,199 --> 01:37:05,760
» Uh yes. Yes. Uh for the renewable
malware bites Jerry, we have two

1222
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:10,560
options. The one that we have right now
is not with email.

1223
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:15,159
» Yeah, I think it's
>> I'm not sure we have it in here.

1224
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:26,639
» We have
option two.

1225
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:31,280
Option two and option one. Option one is
without the email scanning and option

1226
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:34,800
two we have the email scanning.
>> What does that mean?

1227
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:38,080
» Right now now they offer for the email
scanning which is scanning the emails

1228
01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:41,440
that are coming in right to see if
there's no malware or fishing or things

1229
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:45,440
like that.
>> Okay.

1230
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:51,520
» So that's an protection but that's like
four like $4,000 more.

1231
01:37:48,639 --> 01:37:56,639
» And so is it absolutely you recommend? I
I would I would address is that

1232
01:37:54,719 --> 01:38:00,400
installed in all all computers?
>> Uh yes, it is right now. All the

1233
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:04,960
computers that we have right they have
no bikes with exception of the emails.

1234
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:09,760
» I see. Okay.
>> No, it's a good thing. I was wondering

1235
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:12,960
if it's already.
>> Yes.

1236
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:17,440
» Do do we So we don't budget for this on
a yearly basis or what is

1237
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:20,560
» what is it renewal? like either we can
go three years, one year depending but

1238
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:24,719
we did it like one year last time or
last year. So

1239
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:31,040
» So we need to include this in your uh in
your budget because we do budget

1240
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:38,280
» that was like for
>> that's the other for the equipment.

1241
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:38,280
» I have like $5,000 for the equipment.

1242
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:45,119
» Yeah.
>> You haven't brought this to our

1243
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:48,080
attention of having the budget for this.
So, where were you paying it on a yearly

1244
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:53,119
basis? Where do we pay this?
>> How much is it for? I don't have a

1245
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:58,159
» There's two options. Option one is is
that the one we currently have, Mr.

1246
01:38:55,199 --> 01:39:01,840
» Uh, yes.
>> And option two, I believe that's your

1247
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:05,360
recommendation
increase 12,000.

1248
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:09,360
» 13,10.
>> Yeah, there's nothing in there.

1249
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:14,800
Um,
>> we might have um money under computer

1250
01:39:13,119 --> 01:39:18,159
computer hardware and software.
>> Oh, okay.

1251
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:26,119
» I think there you usually budget like
25,000 and I think there's still uh

1252
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:26,119
» Okay. I'm just need to make sure.

1253
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:33,800
Yeah, the computer hardware is 15,000
per year.

1254
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,320
And we have

1255
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:43,440
So it'll cover it maybe 15 for the year.
>> I I don't think we've used it that much

1256
01:39:42,639 --> 01:39:46,080
this year. So
>> Okay. So this will be for the this

1257
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:50,560
coming
>> Yes. Uh starting at the end of the

1258
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:54,400
month.
>> So it'll fall under this current budget

1259
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:57,360
and he has enough to cover for that.
>> Well, I don't know. Uh it would be under

1260
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,760
computer hardware
>> for the new year, right? When when is

1261
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:03,280
this due?
>> Uh this is going to be due. We need it

1262
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,440
to start this coming month.
>> Oh, in September.

1263
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,400
» Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So, I
don't know if you you want to go check

1264
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:12,400
in to see if he has that amount in the
computer line item so we can pay it off

1265
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:15,199
and for that line item
>> and and we'll be covered for this

1266
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,400
following year. We don't have to include
it in our budget.

1267
01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:22,560
» Okay.
>> It's an next year because it'll be

1268
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,920
» it's an annual.
>> Yeah. Then he'll bring it in. I guess

1269
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:30,000
» we can do it yearly. One year, two
years. I mean, if we go in three years

1270
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:32,080
is cost uh better pricing.
>> I think we're going to have to include

1271
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:37,040
in the budget for next year.
>> We will. We will. It will be this time

1272
01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:43,280
next year. It'll be coming up. So,
>> I would include it.

1273
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:48,719
» And uh on line item number 18,
>> I I submitted the wrong uh quote, right?

1274
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:52,880
Then I brought it back by I didn't
change the pricing.

1275
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:58,000
» If you look at the next papers, which is
the Moro equipment, that's the equipment

1276
01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:00,800
for the firewall that would cover county
court.

1277
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:04,059
Uh
>> yeah. Well, let's let's we'll get to

1278
01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:07,440
that one. You want to take action
[clears throat] on this one,

1279
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:10,000
commissioner, is to which you
>> to cover the emails, too.

1280
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:13,040
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1281
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:15,360
» So, your recommendation would be uh SHI
>> option two.

1282
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,880
» Yeah. It's a tag for the option two.
Yes, sir.

1283
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,280
» 13,000.
>> 13,000.

1284
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:24,480
» I'll make a motion judge to go with the
renewal with the recommendation of SHI

1285
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:28,639
in the amount of 1312.4.
>> Motion by the second by Commissioner

1286
01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:31,600
Morales. Any discussion? All those in
favor say I. I. and it'll be paid at the

1287
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:35,600
end of the month.
>> And then 18 is to upgrade firewall

1288
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:40,800
equipment for the courthouse car
department just to the P3 one and four

1289
01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:46,320
and library for 11,000.
>> So and that one is for I

1290
01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:52,080
quote and then brought it back and
changed it on the paper.

1291
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:59,679
» So it was you over stated or it's under
and there's two options there. One for

1292
01:41:53,920 --> 01:42:04,960
one year 19,000 and 23 for three years.
for like $4,000 more we get two more

1293
01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:09,840
years.
>> Okay, I'm trying. Okay,

1294
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:12,000
» so currently how much do we pay for one
year?

1295
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,280
» 19.
>> 19. But this is because we need to

1296
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:22,480
replace some of the equipment for the
county court and uh J and

1297
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:27,600
» the equipment that we have is like from
2013 2014. So that equipment.

1298
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:31,840
» Can we do this in October?
>> Yes. I called them and they told me,

1299
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:35,280
"Oh, you know, we need to do it this
month." And they said that we can submit

1300
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:39,119
payment within 60 days.
>> Okay, good. Cuz yeah,

1301
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:42,960
come to my office saying, "Hey, we need
to do this, Judge." But say, "Well, can

1302
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:45,040
we pay with a new budget?" And they
agreed.

1303
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:50,119
» They say that we can.
>> Okay.

1304
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:50,119
» So then we're going with the 23

1305
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,800
» for 4,000 more years.

1306
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:04,000
Judge, just to go back to the the
previous one in that uh computer

1307
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:06,400
hardware uh
>> malware by anti virus software for the

1308
01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:09,199
year.
>> We have 13,555.

1309
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,840
So it cover
>> it'll cover.

1310
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:15,840
» So we'll get it from that line item.
>> It'll cover line item number uh

1311
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:20,960
» 17
>> 17.

1312
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:27,880
» What line item am I going to be using
on the

1313
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:27,880
» 10 409 33 540?

1314
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:33,360
Okay.
>> Okay. Can I make a motion uh to go with

1315
01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:37,840
the three-year plan in the total amount
of 23,83146?

1316
01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:40,800
» Okay. For the firewall equipment
>> firewall equipment to be paid uh within

1317
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:44,400
the 60 days.
>> Okay. So, we'll include that in the

1318
01:43:43,679 --> 01:43:46,000
budget.
>> Yes.

1319
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:50,080
» I'll second that.
>> Motion by Commissioner Z, seconded by

1320
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:55,400
Commissioner Raza. Any discussion? All
those in favor say I.

1321
01:43:51,199 --> 01:43:55,400
» I. Okay.

1322
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:05,119
line
item number.

1323
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:07,440
» We're going to use one of your capital
outlay.

1324
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,920
» Yeah. In the budget
>> from your department.

1325
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:14,667
» We're going to turn the new budget.
>> So, and the new budget will

1326
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:16,687
» we're going to add the 19.
[laughter]

1327
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:23,440
Okay. So,
>> we'll pay it out on your department, but

1328
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:26,760
we're going to add the money the fun to
be paid in.

1329
01:44:28,639 --> 01:44:31,880
» Yes, sir.

1330
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:40,320
» Thank you.
Item number 19 is to approve provision

1331
01:44:37,199 --> 01:44:47,760
of 400,000 in IT intergovernmental
transfer for medical center for the DY

1332
01:44:44,719 --> 01:44:51,040
15 advanced UC view on September 1st
2026.

1333
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:54,600
» Good morning judge commission.
>> Good morning.

1334
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,600
» Morning.

1335
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:04,239
» It's that time of year where we pay the
the for the engine and for

1336
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:08,480
» Yes.
Is this for this coming year?

1337
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:13,440
» For not, it's for the current year.
>> For the current year.

1338
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:19,280
» Okay. We did have some uh we did have
some uh words from our indigent

1339
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:23,360
director. Um I know we have LMC here.
See if we can uh correct those issues. I

1340
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:28,800
know there's a lot of concerns that are
going on at the clinic.

1341
01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:33,440
Could we step up please?
>> Y'all want to step up? They weren't here

1342
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:36,239
with the concern. So I guess you can ask
them the question if you want.

1343
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:39,360
» No. [clears throat]
>> You want to ask them the question?

1344
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:43,040
» Basically, it's the same saying same.
And here we go again. Um

1345
01:45:41,679 --> 01:45:45,679
» what's because they weren't here. So
>> yeah, they weren't here. But I'm not

1346
01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:50,239
going to read it. I'm just going to go I
mean because the concerns that are there

1347
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:57,119
because if you are going to agree to for
them for another year is that uh

1348
01:45:55,280 --> 01:46:03,520
uh we have a lot of complaints from the
community. Uh it's only three days. two

1349
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:08,800
hours three days maybe I don't know
suggestions can you change to lab port

1350
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:15,760
these people come every day to satan
pick up labs and gateway and other

1351
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:20,960
health facilities if we can do that it
would be a great help for the community

1352
01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:24,719
» I just yeah and I concur with with your
concerns

1353
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:28,560
sir can can
>> I forgot your name

1354
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:33,199
» yes
>> so you We've been partnering with with

1355
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:39,119
LA Medical Center, of course, our major
regional hospital in in our area for 20

1356
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:44,560
years now and and sending taxpayer funds
on a yearly basis, which are matched by

1357
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:49,679
the 11:15 waiver. So, what are we
getting out of it? That that's that's

1358
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:54,560
the the question we have is why can't
you all suture? Why why is no you're not

1359
01:46:52,800 --> 01:47:00,320
able to somebody goes in there with a
bleeding cut, y'all can't suture. uh if

1360
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:06,639
somebody needs a shot I can't get a
shot. Uh when we had COVID uh a few

1361
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:11,040
years ago didn't treat a single patient.
So that that's what we're getting at.

1362
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:16,560
Our antigen healthc care we're having to
uh uh pay additional additional funds

1363
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:24,080
other than what we've already
contributed uh the prior year. So, uh,

1364
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:27,760
your organization has failed to,
you know, you get you get it free

1365
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:32,800
basically free rent. There has been no
improvement to that clinic in 20 years.

1366
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:40,159
U, it just, it seems if we're in a
pattern where you take our money and you

1367
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:44,719
open a clinic for a little while with no
services, there's no medicines. I mean,

1368
01:47:42,719 --> 01:47:49,440
it's a year after year. So, I mean,
you've heard it. I've been on telling

1369
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:52,480
you about this. Last year you told us
you all were going to bring new

1370
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:58,159
equipment including possibly a new X-ray
machine. Didn't happen. U so it just

1371
01:47:55,840 --> 01:48:02,320
seems we're in a cycle where every year
we send the money with good intentions.

1372
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:06,560
We want we want better healthcare for
our community. We're very limited into

1373
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:11,280
what our community can offer, who we can
bring in. But it it gets it gets to the

1374
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:17,119
point where you know that just it's just
kind of uh kind of crazy for us to keep

1375
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:21,440
doing the same thing over and over and
thinking yeah it'll get better next

1376
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:25,920
year. It hasn't. So I don't know how you
could expand on that.

1377
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:30,080
» We want to judge commissioners
medical center.

1378
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:34,560
» Um so I guess we could definitely look
at the lab report but from a lab draw

1379
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:40,000
perspective. Um I know even at the
hospital we have transitioned some of

1380
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:45,840
the outpatient labs over to lab or we as
a hospital organization don't really do

1381
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:51,119
any draws just for a very limited uh
population of patients that are going to

1382
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:55,280
receive services at the at the hospital.
Right. So we can definitely look at that

1383
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:59,119
one. As far as the X-ray machine, yes,
you're right. We did that was raised as

1384
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:03,280
a concern. We have seen the equipment.
We've actually started down the path of

1385
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:07,600
getting quotes and looking at what it
would take what at the same time we

1386
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:11,600
talked about the construction for the
building, right? We we've stood here in

1387
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:16,000
front of the commissioners before and
said, "Hey, well, whenever you're going

1388
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:20,320
to ready to do remodeling, let us know
so we can also go ahead and use the same

1389
01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:21,520
contract that we can do our side at the
same time."

1390
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:25,440
» Yeah.
>> Right. So we my understanding is that at

1391
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:29,119
some point there have been some funds
that may have been made available to

1392
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:33,199
help with some of that at least for the
county side. Not

1393
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:38,480
» well in the years past if there was a
willingness from from your group. Yes,

1394
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:44,239
we would pitch in. But um waiting for us
to take the initiative when uh I mean so

1395
01:49:42,719 --> 01:49:46,239
» and I know we've also talked about
different space and I'm sorry to be

1396
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:51,360
talking over
>> No, you're not sir. I appreciate you. I

1397
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:57,040
mean we're just here competition but so
Miss Gonzalez provided us with some

1398
01:49:53,440 --> 01:50:03,760
figures on the last 20 years. I think it
was our 8% you know we've contributed

1399
01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:10,000
almost $14 million for the operation X.
Now that probably been maxed by a

1400
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:15,760
dollar25. So you're talking maybe 25$26
million in 20 years

1401
01:50:13,199 --> 01:50:20,480
and the place is falling apart. You
think there might be some initiative

1402
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:24,400
from your group say you know what let's
let's try to fix some things. Let's at

1403
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:28,480
least minimal things.
>> Uh and and what what what I see is

1404
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:37,520
instead it's kind of going in the
opposite direction. uh less hours. Um

1405
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:42,719
no uh no recognizing the the state of of
the facility. Uh just when I when I walk

1406
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:50,639
into a place and I see a place that
basically the exterior uh just some type

1407
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:56,639
of care giving to uh the lawn or just
anything that thing is looks abandoned.

1408
01:50:53,920 --> 01:51:00,159
Uh and certainly yes. Was that does that
fall on the county? Possibly. But but

1409
01:50:59,461 --> 01:51:04,000
[clears throat] you're getting that
facility for free, sir. And we're we're

1410
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:10,800
paying y'all a lot of money and and
during that time, Pat did make uh uh

1411
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:16,159
some uh you know, looked into how what
exactly how much went to indigen during

1412
01:51:12,639 --> 01:51:22,400
that same period. So those $26 million
uh resulted in about $4 million in

1413
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:28,719
actual indigen costs that were incurred
by a group. Uh so it's I mean it's

1414
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:34,000
exponential what what we've paid uh
during that time and I it just I I don't

1415
01:51:31,679 --> 01:51:39,599
I don't see it working the way it is
right now and I I expressed my

1416
01:51:36,719 --> 01:51:45,040
frustration during COVID when the
hospital wasn't even able to provide one

1417
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:48,800
COVID shot to our community. we had to
do it on our own. And when that

1418
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:54,880
happened, I just said, "No, uh this is
this is not a direction that we that I

1419
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:59,760
would like." And and because of our uh
isolation, uh the inability to to

1420
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:06,159
attract major hospitals, we're kind of
handcuffed as to what we can do. But I I

1421
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:10,400
just don't see this uh continuing to to
be something that we should continue to

1422
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:14,560
explore our commissioners. just I mean
>> now not now just sorry to interrupt but

1423
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:18,960
we're talking about the X-ray machine I
know she you mentioned it was over 20

1424
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:22,639
years old um why is the delay to
purchase and what you right now you came

1425
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:27,280
up you said we're looking at quotes a
year later we're still looking at quotes

1426
01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:34,880
» commissioner we have equipment even at
the main campus that's 20 years old um

1427
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:39,760
if you the cost of the this equipment
it's price

1428
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:43,360
» um the others with the equipment. We
have to we have to look at what we're

1429
01:52:41,440 --> 01:52:47,679
going to install to ensure that the
staff that we have working at the clinic

1430
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:52,080
are able to operate that particular
equipment because sometimes there may be

1431
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:54,960
licensing that they have to have or
credentials they have to have in order

1432
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:59,440
to operate certain pieces of equipment.
So, and the other thing would be it

1433
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:03,760
wouldn't make sense for us to put a
piece of equipment in there. If the plan

1434
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:07,920
is that we're going to remodel, then
we'd m rather put the equipment in at

1435
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:11,679
the same time that we are going to
whenever we get to doing any of the

1436
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:15,360
remodeling inside. So, we make sure that
even the supports the equipment that we

1437
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:18,560
plan on putting in there.
>> So, that's really a lot,

1438
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:22,159
» right? And I'm just understanding,
right? Obviously, I don't understand

1439
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:25,280
that. But you're talking about this
machine that's 20 years old. You said

1440
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:29,920
you're already looking at quotes, but
now you're saying that we you guys still

1441
01:53:27,599 --> 01:53:31,760
have 20 uh 20 year old equipment. So
pretty much we're not going to get a new

1442
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,760
machine. Correct.
>> That's not what I'm saying. I'm I'm just

1443
01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:37,199
putting it in
>> I'm just trying to make a

1444
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:42,480
» I understand and I'm trying to put it in
context to say that this is not an

1445
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:48,080
isolated item for Sapata County. This
happens even at our main campus. Okay.

1446
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:51,679
So that please don't misconrue.
>> No, I'm just trying to make sense of it.

1447
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,679
The thing is to say that I'm sorry to
interrupt.

1448
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:59,520
» Give me one second.
>> He's talking

1449
01:53:56,000 --> 01:54:06,880
and we we provide services seven days a
week, eight 12 hours a day. Saturdays

1450
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:11,040
we're open up until 5. We're not open
every Sunday. We're open every other

1451
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:15,840
Sunday. I think we we have made a very
concerted effort to also have a

1452
01:54:12,719 --> 01:54:22,880
physician come and do clinical here
right so you know we are definitely

1453
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:30,400
trying to do our part to be good
partners right um it and at like I told

1454
01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:34,400
you before judge it is absolutely your
prerogative to decide whether this is

1455
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:38,159
something that you want to continue to
fund or not that's we're not telling you

1456
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:42,400
you have to do it
>> this is your prerogative.

1457
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:46,400
Mercy
now medical center has been here for

1458
01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:53,199
» decades
>> and we haven't gone away and we haven't

1459
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:54,480
we're not so we have no plans of going
away

1460
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:58,400
» right
>> I appreciate that. So it's I appreciate

1461
01:54:56,320 --> 01:55:01,760
that it's it's not a requirement for us
to contribute this.

1462
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,599
» That's absolutely your prerogative. We
we've never we've never said hey you

1463
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:10,800
need to do this in order for this to
continue to happen. We've been here.

1464
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:15,040
We're there's no commitment had there
had been any commitment from the from

1465
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:18,480
the county to fund this, right? We
haven't said, "Hey, we're putting we're

1466
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:21,679
closing the doors unless we get this."
That's not the case. We're going to

1467
01:55:19,599 --> 01:55:27,360
continue to be here for the community.
Okay. So, that's your prerogative. Yes.

1468
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:32,480
And even commissioner to the point
earlier, things don't always move as

1469
01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:36,719
fast as we'd like them to. Um, we do
have a lot of things that we're always

1470
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:40,719
evaluating and we make a very concerted
effort to hit as much as we can.

1471
01:55:38,719 --> 01:55:46,320
Unfortunately, something's something
always comes up and then we end up even

1472
01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:49,360
having to redirect funds just like you
would as a

1473
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:57,599
» right. So,
>> but u items that we can uh look at from

1474
01:55:53,760 --> 01:56:03,280
» that that would be something that uh
>> yes that would provide an incentive if

1475
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:08,239
if we see something that improves there.
Maybe next year we might be a little

1476
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:14,480
more uh uh encouraged to move forward
with that. I just to me depositing this

1477
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:17,679
money has not really helped uh our
community out. And to be fair, every

1478
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:21,119
time, you know, I take my kids there,
the staff is, you know, they do their

1479
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:23,360
job. They're wonderful in what they do,
you know. So, I want to point that out

1480
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:27,599
there.
>> I have a question and maybe you can't

1481
01:56:25,599 --> 01:56:32,239
answer right now. So, you're saying that
even if we don't pay the IGT, you'll

1482
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:38,000
still be here as a clinic, but will you
still be

1483
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:39,920
how will the indigent part work?
>> It's not going to change.

1484
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,880
» Oh,
>> that doesn't change.

1485
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:50,480
» Okay.
We're we're not here uh just because or

1486
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:57,520
we may or may not get some money. Right.
That I I want to make that very clear.

1487
01:56:54,080 --> 01:57:01,440
» Your your your fund the funding from the
county is not what determines whether

1488
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:04,320
we're here or not.
>> Right.

1489
01:57:02,239 --> 01:57:08,880
» Well, it certainly determined how many
hours of operation you were.

1490
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:14,239
» Judge, we we expanded our hours.
>> No, no. Well, you used to have seven

1491
01:57:11,599 --> 01:57:20,159
days a week, maybe not 12 hours every
day. Maybe the scope is not what the the

1492
01:57:17,599 --> 01:57:24,560
county may be looking for, what you may
need. We can go back and evaluate and

1493
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:28,719
see what the skill sets that we have,
the the suturing and the shot.

1494
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:33,679
» If you haven't been able to suture in
years, uh so I get those I get friends

1495
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:39,599
of mine walk in with a cut and they say
go to LA. So I mean you can't suture or

1496
01:57:37,199 --> 01:57:44,800
you know you know blessed uh Miss
Platner who has been helping out uh

1497
01:57:42,239 --> 01:57:49,280
volunteering at our the clinic that is
not the side of the clinic that's not

1498
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:52,560
being used utilized by LMC. How many
patients is she seeing on a weekly

1499
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,480
basis? Uh
>> about 30

1500
01:57:53,760 --> 01:58:01,199
» 30 pat
>> and is she taking care of our indigent

1501
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:05,440
also? Actually, she's taking her argent
basically. That's why she's taking

1502
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:09,199
» because our agent are not being their
services are not being met, sir. That

1503
01:58:07,599 --> 01:58:13,119
that's
>> it's

1504
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:16,880
just a reviewing of the staff. I really
recommend is for you to put cameras in

1505
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,320
there so you can see and maybe your
staff.

1506
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:23,119
» We don't put cameras.
>> Okay, that's great. But maybe

1507
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:28,800
re-evaluate your staff because I last
Friday I had two indigent uh clients

1508
01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:31,920
» uh refuse they refused their because
they didn't have insurance. When they

1509
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:36,239
know they're indigent, all they had to
do is send them to my site. I give them

1510
01:58:34,239 --> 01:58:39,199
the voucher and then they were charging
them.

1511
01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:40,880
» We we never whether somebody has
insurance or not.

1512
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,320
» You don't
>> whether somebody has insurance or not.

1513
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:48,719
» It's the staff.
>> They're an extension of our hospital.

1514
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:52,960
The same would be the
>> And I appreciate everything you have you

1515
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:58,320
guys have done to Sapata and all the
services that we get, but it's always

1516
01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:02,320
Sapata last, right? We're always the
last in your in your mind because you

1517
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:07,280
even said it right now. I mean, yes, you
focus in everything you have right there

1518
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:11,199
in the You just opened a new clinic in
in in Luke 20.

1519
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:17,520
» Beautiful clinic.
>> It's an ER. It's an ER. Exactly.

1520
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:23,599
» And we cannot get it because it's near
enough. you know that we have people

1521
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:27,840
coming from Heville, Rooney, all the
little towns outside to come to your

1522
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:32,000
your services.
Look at all the people that we have,

1523
01:59:29,679 --> 01:59:36,239
right? It's it's it's never enough
people. We don't have enough people with

1524
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:41,199
because we're not given enough services.
That's been my concern. I guess what I

1525
01:59:38,639 --> 01:59:45,360
would say to to the court right is if
you feel that the services that Brio

1526
01:59:43,119 --> 01:59:51,800
Medical Center provides are not
sufficient then let's talk about that

1527
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:51,800
and let's see what that means

1528
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:55,760
we want to make sure that we are the
right partner for you guys at the end of

1529
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:59,119
the day that's really what it comes down
to

1530
01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:03,679
» you don't know how how hard and I
actually begged when co and I still

1531
02:00:01,679 --> 02:00:07,599
couldn't get y'all to help us
>> I was not at the hospital at the time

1532
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:10,239
but I can say that what happened during
COVID as far as the vaccines were

1533
02:00:09,119 --> 02:00:13,280
concerned because I was at another
healthcare right

1534
02:00:11,119 --> 02:00:18,800
» institution is we were following the
mandates of the state the state had

1535
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:22,320
their guidelines as to who received what
I worked in a hospital I was not one of

1536
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:26,239
the very first ones vaccinated
>> I understand it was one of the very last

1537
02:00:24,159 --> 02:00:31,520
» but I just couldn't understand what we
there was no help that that was a hard

1538
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:36,639
one for me to to swallow
>> I mean we're thank goodness we're almost

1539
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:40,400
six years removed from that and never
counted again. Maybe there's lessons

1540
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:44,000
learned from every from that incident
for everybody.

1541
02:00:41,599 --> 02:00:47,440
» But I I'm going to go I'm going to go
back to this, right? Laredo Medical

1542
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:52,719
Center continues to be here. Okay?
>> Right. Um we always welcome some

1543
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:56,000
feedback, right? If there's a way that
we can improve the service, we'll

1544
02:00:54,000 --> 02:01:00,080
definitely go back and take a look and
make sure that we are able to. And if

1545
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:01,360
we're not able to, we will let you know
why.

1546
02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:04,239
» Okay.
>> Okay.

1547
02:01:02,239 --> 02:01:10,000
» Quick question on my end. So, you're
saying if we do not contribute the

1548
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:14,880
400,000 to the IGT,
um my question is will the services

1549
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:19,119
diminish or it'll stay currently as what
we're doing right now?

1550
02:01:16,159 --> 02:01:23,920
» Well, the the transfer hasn't happened
all year long and the services have not

1551
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:27,760
diminished. So, I would not expect that
the services would the services will not

1552
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:29,599
diminish. Okay. The services are going
to be what they are.

1553
02:01:28,639 --> 02:01:32,000
» Question.
>> Thank you.

1554
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:35,840
» Any other questions?
>> That's it. Thank you for your time.

1555
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:37,920
» Yeah. So, Miss Flat nurse services our
side, we pay the concer or how does that

1556
02:01:37,679 --> 02:01:43,199
work?
>> No, we use the also just

1557
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:48,159
» does it spread out to other nurse
practitioners in the area or

1558
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:53,199
» Yeah. Everybody Mario Salenas, Darcia,
everybody goes there because the indigen

1559
02:01:50,159 --> 02:01:57,920
the indigent healthcare is not only for
our facility is for uh we also support

1560
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:01,119
um
>> gateway

1561
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:05,679
» gateway because whatever they don't have
that's where we come up where we back

1562
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:10,800
all this all these little clinics
because it's you're talking about uh

1563
02:02:07,599 --> 02:02:15,440
sending them to Laredo LC if it if it
would continue if it would be what you

1564
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:21,599
just said right that you're not going to
contribute, then we would have to pay

1565
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:26,639
them instead of they charging us out of
the 8%. There's a lot of counties that

1566
02:02:24,719 --> 02:02:30,320
are like that. They keep their funding
and then we pay to whoever you're going

1567
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:34,480
to send them.
>> It's the other way around and then you

1568
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:39,560
know that you're getting your services
for what you pay.

1569
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,560
» Thank you.

1570
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:48,880
» There a motion. I make a motion to
approve the $400,000 judge payment.

1571
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:53,520
» I'll second the motion.
>> Got a motion and a second

1572
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:59,800
» to approve the transfer the 400,000.
>> This is from this past year. Correct.

1573
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,800
» This

1574
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,679
for this current year for this upcoming
year.

1575
02:03:02,239 --> 02:03:05,520
» Yeah, we don't know it right now. Oh, I
thought it

1576
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:09,679
» No, for this current year because for
this current year from December to

1577
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:15,520
December
>> then then I'll retract my my motion. Uh

1578
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:17,440
let's see what services can come in
judge. Let's see what can

1579
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:20,560
» So no action.
>> No action. I would say no action on

1580
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:25,280
this. Let's see what services let's see
what uh agreement we can come to and uh

1581
02:03:23,599 --> 02:03:29,360
see if we can increase our our services
to support them.

1582
02:03:27,679 --> 02:03:35,040
» So there's no action. So there will be
no transfer. Is that correct? If there

1583
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:37,840
was a motion and that means we
>> Okay, I know. I hear you say.

1584
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:42,080
» Yeah. Okay.
>> So, would no action be sufficient

1585
02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:43,199
» or would we have to move a motion to
deny

1586
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:48,080
» or deny?
>> Well, it be to deny judge because it's

1587
02:03:46,639 --> 02:03:51,280
provision of 400,000.
>> So, motion to deny.

1588
02:03:49,599 --> 02:03:54,400
» Now, we have a motion that commissioners
has a motion to deny. Is there a second?

1589
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:57,520
» So, nothing will change right if you
don't get the 400,000. I don't want the

1590
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:59,119
services to be interrupted here for
community.

1591
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:03,280
» No, that's what that's what I was
asking. I mean because that would

1592
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:07,840
» well the thing is we're going to we're
going to revisit the the services see

1593
02:04:05,119 --> 02:04:10,960
what we can you know services we can use
this

1594
02:04:09,119 --> 02:04:15,199
» we got a motion to deny I'll send you a
motion to deny is there any other

1595
02:04:13,679 --> 02:04:19,679
discussion
>> okay in favor to deny

1596
02:04:17,599 --> 02:04:22,800
» it's not I mean
>> well that's what I was asking you don't

1597
02:04:21,119 --> 02:04:25,119
pay the 400 would the services be
diminished and he said no

1598
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:28,560
» I mean
>> we got a motion or a second is there a

1599
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:31,360
vote
>> discussion judge

1600
02:04:31,599 --> 02:04:36,960
I'm asking. So that's the only thing
that I want you to change and then our

1601
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:39,040
community doesn't have the service that
they deserve.

1602
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:42,480
» You know, I know you've been here for a
long time and I really thank you for

1603
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:44,400
that. I just wanted
>> We have no intentions of changing the

1604
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,760
service.
>> Well, you could if you decided to.

1605
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:50,480
» Well, we could do that in any of our
book of business that we do even in

1606
02:04:49,119 --> 02:04:55,840
Laro. Okay.
>> Right. So, we have no intentions. The

1607
02:04:53,679 --> 02:05:00,719
county could use this time remaining in
the year to evaluate further whether

1608
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:06,159
they are worthy of the 400,000
>> or not. Next year

1609
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:08,480
motion a second to deny. All those in
favor to deny.

1610
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:12,080
» I
>> I for commissioner.

1611
02:05:10,719 --> 02:05:18,080
» No.
>> Okay. Unanimous. Okay. Moving on. 20 to

1612
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:22,719
approve for this station repairs to be
paid from certificates of obligation

1613
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:28,719
totaling 25,600
>> and this commissioners is uh for several

1614
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:32,719
contractors for that uh uh lift station
in Falcon Mesa. So there's two

1615
02:05:31,199 --> 02:05:35,840
contractors I believe two different
contracts.

1616
02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:41,199
» Yeah. I also added uh
>> it's a total of $44,85.

1617
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:48,159
» It's 25600
plus uh I'm adding uh three more

1618
02:05:44,639 --> 02:05:54,880
invoices for uh two for RAM and one for
ANA pipeline which totals $44,85.

1619
02:05:53,119 --> 02:06:00,679
» Okay. So I would obtain a motion by
commissioner morada to approve the

1620
02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,679
payment of $44,000

1621
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:09,599
» $85 from the certification for uh the
legislation repair and documents.

1622
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:11,280
» Second by commissioner Solis. All those
in favor say I.

1623
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:14,800
» I.
>> Item number 21 is to approve the

1624
02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:19,760
transfer of the land devoski from
custodian department 516 slot number

1625
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:24,880
three to water plant 600 slot 20. I
spoke with the department head

1626
02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:29,199
» on this one. Uh she texted for 21 and
22' be no action at the moment.

1627
02:06:26,159 --> 02:06:34,000
» No. Okay. Yes. The transfer will not be
happening. No action. Okay. Well, she's

1628
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:38,560
requesting that they don't take place.
So, no action on 21 and 22 to approve

1629
02:06:36,639 --> 02:06:46,239
the transfer
from department 20 to custo.

1630
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:50,880
No action on that either. Got line item
transfers

1631
02:06:48,239 --> 02:06:54,960
and 3 and 24 line item transfers. Motion
by commissioner to app. Fine. Transfer

1632
02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:58,719
second by Commissioner Morales. All
those in favor say I.

1633
02:06:56,159 --> 02:07:05,480
» I. Motion to return by Commissioner
Mores. Second by Commissioner.

1634
02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:05,480
Thank you.