1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,880 start this meeting. For those in attendance and online, please be aware 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,200 that our meetings are recorded for public viewing placed on a publicly 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:18,080 available website. And we will call the meeting to order. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:23,680 And we want to acknowledge that we are on the unseated First Nations land 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:28,880 territory. >> And I move we approve the agenda. 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Second. All those in favor? 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,960 I 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:42,079 » I adopt and I move we adopt the minutes of the June 23rd regular meeting. 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,680 » No. >> No. 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,680 » I 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,760 » Yeah. Do you want the meeting? >> No. 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:57,520 » We need the whole meeting. >> Okay. Indigo the hold meeting 13 00:00:55,199 --> 00:01:04,840 » held on Tuesday June the 9th 2026 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,840 that 15 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:19,400 » okay delegation subitions >> all those in favor 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,400 » I 17 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,720 delegation of petitions and Vincent and Gabriel no Coner. Um 18 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:31,439 10 minutes. >> Yeah, I practiced so 19 00:01:29,735 --> 00:01:33,920 [laughter] Okay. Uh so I disagreed. 20 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,479 » Yeah. >> Okay. So, dear mayor and members of 21 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,000 council, my name is Angie Vincent and together with my business partner, 22 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Adrien O' Conor, we are the owners of two locally operated businesses in Zels, 23 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:51,200 Real Obsession Sport Fishing and the Zvel Fuel Station. We are writing to 24 00:01:49,119 --> 00:01:54,799 respectfully request that council consider supporting the regulated use of 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:59,520 fully electric golf carts within the village of Sabalis and where necessary 26 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,719 advocate on behalf of our community to the Ministry of Transportation and 27 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Transit to explore options that would permit their use. 28 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:11,120 Let's start with a bit of background for you. In mid June of this year, we were 29 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:14,800 advised by local authorities that concerns had been raised regarding the 30 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,599 operation of our golf carts within the village. As a result, we discontinued 31 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,280 their use and have returned to relying on conventional vehicles for guest 32 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:27,360 transportation, operational task, and day-to-day errands. While we understand 33 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:32,080 the importance of ensuring public safety and regulatory compliance, this change 34 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:36,560 has highlighted how valuable electric golf carts have become, [clears throat] 35 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,640 not only to our businesses, but also to many members of the community. We 36 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:46,000 respectfully ask council to consider the broader benefits that a regulated golf 37 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:50,400 cart program could provide. Why electric golf carts would benefit develops and 38 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:55,280 surrounding communities. Reason number one, accessibility and 39 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:59,040 inclusion. Our primary reason for using golf carts has always been 40 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:02,480 accessibility. Many of our guests are seniors or individuals with mobility 41 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:07,440 challenges who find it difficult to climb into large pickup trucks or walk 42 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:11,280 long distances. Every year we welcome guests who rely on these carts for safe 43 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:15,519 transportation, including a returning guest who is legally blind that visits 44 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:20,159 twice each summer and another who uses a wheelchair. Golf carts allow us to 45 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,840 transport these individuals safely, comfortably, and with dignity while 46 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:29,440 reducing physical strain on both our guests and our staff. As one of the core 47 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:33,519 protections in our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms includes affirmative 48 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:37,920 action, which permits for certain laws or programs aimed at providing the 49 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:42,000 situation of disadvantaged individuals or groups. 50 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:46,480 A community that supports accessible transportation is a community that is 51 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:52,159 welcoming to everyone. Reason number two, improve safety and reduce traffic 52 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:56,400 congestion. Golf carts are smaller, slower, and considerably more 53 00:03:53,599 --> 00:04:01,040 maneuverable than full-size trucks. Our businesses make numerous trips each day 54 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:05,519 between real obsession main lodge, the Zabalis lodge, the fuel station, and the 55 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:09,439 docks. These routes frequently pass through areas already occupied by 56 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:13,519 conventional and commercial trucks such as the one servicing Habitat's fish 57 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:18,079 processing facility located next door to fuel stations. This area can become 58 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:22,720 quite congested with both businesses are in full operation mode. By replacing 59 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:26,240 short local trips with compact electric golf carts, reduces congestion, requires 60 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,160 less parking space, and allows commercial traffic to move more 61 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:34,880 efficiently and safely. Rather than increasing safety concerns, we believe 62 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:40,160 appropriately regulated golf cart use can improve overall traffic flow in the 63 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:45,199 village core. Reason number three, environmental 64 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:49,919 stewardship. Electric golf carts produce zero emissions and operate quietly. Not 65 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,600 only do they reduce unnecessary truck use for short distance travel and 66 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:58,400 contributes to lower fuel consumption bills, but they also decrease greenhouse 67 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:03,520 gas emissions and significantly reduces vehicle noise on our quiet streets. A 68 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Canadian field study reported greenhouse gas emissions approximately 75% lower 69 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,680 than comparable gasoline golf carts, which we could assume translates to 70 00:05:09,919 --> 00:05:18,080 gasoline powered vehicles in general, such as ATVs, cars, trucks, etc. As many 71 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:22,639 residents know, our workday often begins before dawn and can end after dusk. 72 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:27,199 Electric carts would reduce engine noise, creating a quieter environment 73 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:32,479 for neighboring homes. With an ATV or side by side, generating noise level of 74 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:36,880 85 to 105 dB. An electric golf cart generates a noise level of 50 to 60 dB. 75 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,240 A difference of 10 dB is roughly perceived as twice as loud to the human 76 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:44,800 ear. Reason number four, economic benefits. 77 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:50,240 Electric golf carts are considerably less expensive to purchase, reduces 78 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,840 household fuel costs along with lower maintenance costs than conventional 79 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,960 vehicles. Allowing their use would reduce operating costs for businesses 80 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,039 while also creating an affordable transportation option for residents, 81 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:04,960 seniors, and lower income households who only require short distance travel 82 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:10,560 within the village. Our final reason number five, tourism 83 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:15,600 and community character. The bellis has built its reputation as a welcoming, 84 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:19,600 peaceful, and unique coastal community. Our real obsession team assists guests 85 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:23,280 with trips to the local store as well as for a community restaurant that develops 86 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:28,880 in. Our land-based guests, the non-fishers, always loved town tours by 87 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:32,160 a golf cart. Communities throughout North America have successfully 88 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:36,400 incorporated regulated golf cart programs to improve mobility while 89 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:40,479 enhancing their tourism appeal. The most notable examples of Canadian 90 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:44,800 municipalities permitting golf carts on public roadways under regulated 91 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:50,639 provincial pilot projects are Silven Lake Alberta, Peely Island, Ontario, and 92 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:54,000 the Village of Chase, BC, plus others. Electric golf carts complement the 93 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:57,520 relaxed atmosphere of our village, making it easier for residents and 94 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,680 visitors to travel and explore our local businesses while encouraging greater 95 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,960 interaction among residents and guests alike. Communities that encourage golf 96 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:12,720 cur transportation often develop a distinctive identity. 97 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:17,840 Our request, we respectfully ask council to one, consider supporting the 98 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:23,199 regulated use of electric golf carts within the village of Zalos. Two, 99 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:29,039 explore the development of a local bylaw or pilot program establishing safe 100 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:33,199 operating standards. And three, advocate to the Ministry of Transportation and 101 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:37,280 Transit for regulatory options that would allow communities such as the 102 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:42,479 Balos to implement golf cart use legally and safely. We are not requesting 103 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:46,319 unrestricted access to public roadways. Rather, we are asking that council 104 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:50,240 explore practical, responsible solutions that balance public safety with 105 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,759 accessibility, environmental sustainability, and the needs of our 106 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,199 community. We would welcome the opportunity to meet with council to 107 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:02,400 discuss this matter further and work collaboratively towards a solution that 108 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,879 benefits all residents. Thank you for your time and consideration and service 109 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:10,120 to the community. >> Thank you. 110 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:18,199 » Questions? 111 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:30,080 » Yes. Thanks for your presentation. Very well 112 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:37,839 done. Um, I have no problem agreeing with most of 113 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:43,680 it. The problem I have is for us to be able to bring the bylaw in so we can use 114 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:49,680 them is going to take our staff a lot of time. Yes, I could read this off for 115 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:54,320 just a sec. Okay, we got permit procedures, 116 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:59,519 inspection requirements, route mapping, signage installation, enforcement 117 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:06,240 protocols, and ongoing administration costs. 118 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Plus, we can't do anything until we get a hold of the department in Victoria. 119 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:18,080 And I don't think we'll be able to do that till next spring. I don't think 120 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:22,480 there's a instant fix here. 121 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:27,120 » Oh, I I didn't expect that by any means. We were able to get one of the golf 122 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:31,200 carts registered uh for the road. But is there 123 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,760 any would would it the regulate like keeping up on the regulations? Would it 124 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:39,680 be the responsibility of the village or would it be the responsibility of the 125 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:44,959 local authorities? >> If I may, I'm going to dump this off to 126 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,519 our because 127 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:52,399 » about that one. >> He knows how the requirements come and 128 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:56,399 what to expect. >> Yes. Okay. 129 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:01,600 » Yes. It would uh it would have to go through a bylaw. Um we would have to 130 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:06,800 dedicate roadways and we would be the ones administering the permits, you 131 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:11,600 know, upon um proof of, you know, meeting all of the the regulations. And 132 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:16,880 do you think like the permit costs would not be beneficial for making money for 133 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:21,360 the village for with having people even coming to 134 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:25,360 um they'd have to have a permit right to operate within the zone. Do you think 135 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:30,000 that would be something that could possibly make the village money? 136 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,440 » I I would say it depends on >> depends on the permit amount. Yeah. 137 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:38,480 » Yeah. And and obviously council direction like we've only just touched 138 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:41,440 the service. I totally and like I was looking up a lot of these pilot 139 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:46,640 projects. They have it just for summer months like when tourism are high and 140 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:51,360 then it ends. Um and there's I don't know there's green initiatives maybe you 141 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:56,720 know just maybe reaching out there might be some type of money for greener 142 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:00,560 initiative taking on for the village itself that could be funded in that 143 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:06,000 direction. I uh I think there's like a lot of merit 144 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:12,480 in this and I think it's an excellent concept for a community of this size 145 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:16,880 without hardly any roadway at all. And uh I mean look at Hutton shaking his 146 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:21,279 head. We got a we got an electric golf cart for public works now, right? And 147 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:26,720 that was the concept behind it like exactly what you're talking about. So, 148 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:33,680 so, uh, I think we should do everything we could we can to to push this forward 149 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:39,519 and and and get it to be real, you know, just like we did in the past with uh 150 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,720 with our ATBs, right? >> At that point, we did think there was 151 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:51,079 going to be a trail coming through here, which is different, but but uh 152 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,079 everything about it is good. So, 153 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,079 » Mayor Coburn. 154 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:04,480 » Hello. Hello. >> Hey, give me a sec here to connect. Um, 155 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:09,760 uh, thank you for coming in. Thank you for presenting to us and, um, giving a 156 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:15,120 little bit more clarity on it and, um, especially that accessibility piece is 157 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:20,560 is really important, I feel. Um I also want to commend you for getting the one 158 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:25,200 that you have uh the golf cart that you have insured and taking that those steps 159 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:29,680 and initiating that. So thank you for doing that. Um really appreciate that 160 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:34,959 that is a first step that you could do. Um I agree with um it not being a you 161 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:41,040 know immediate thing or anything like that. And I also think that we need to 162 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:46,160 direct staff to uh connect with the RCMP because it is a a public road. It will 163 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:53,440 be under the motor vehicle act. So uh that's just my two cents. I made some 164 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:57,839 comments earlier. So I'll stop there. >> Yes. My neighbor. 165 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:04,639 » Yes. Go ahead. Councelor De. >> Yes. Mr. Rod, 166 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:10,959 I live right next to you. I see those golf carts back forth, back forth. 167 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:17,120 They're generally not a problem. Sometimes they are a problem when the 168 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:22,560 kids load five onto a cart because that's not safe. 169 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:27,519 That's not a big deal. I can see after this issue here, 170 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:32,480 there's only two people in a cart. Everybody's being nice and safe. That's 171 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:38,399 great. I have no issues with that. I think it's a good idea. 172 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:41,519 All I can say is it's going to take time for us to do anything that works for 173 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:44,639 you. >> Yeah. 174 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:53,360 » And uh they're quieter, they're better for the environment, and uh 175 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:56,800 504 Reno Street has no issues. >> There shouldn't be 51. No, they're show 176 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,000 I was just thinking when the heck was there five adults. 177 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,560 » Well, hey, you were a kid once, too, weren't you? 178 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:06,800 » No, but you're right. You're 100%. >> They're not meant to be used unless 179 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:10,880 anybody's working and it's they're not for staff to use outside of work 180 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,240 purposes. Yeah, like you said, everybody. 181 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:16,749 » Yeah. Thanks. >> No, I just had to throw that in so I 182 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,769 didn't sound too sick. [laughter] 183 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,800 » Thank you. Are we getting 184 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:31,760 » the other behind the pitch? 185 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:35,120 » We do have the other two in works of getting registered, but they're more 186 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:38,720 difficult because they were bought from a private golf course. So, they were 187 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:42,639 never previously registered. >> So, there's a bunch of loopholes and 188 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:49,839 paperwork we're working on that we won't get them. I doubt we'll get them up in 189 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:53,079 the summer. Uh but we're trying. Thank you. 190 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:04,480 » Do we have to move her seat of that? >> No. 191 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:07,839 » No. >> No. Okay. Moving on. 192 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,079 » Yes. Moving on. >> Okay. 193 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Dallas Volunteer Fire Department monthly operations report. 194 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,000 » No. 195 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Oh, 196 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:26,440 » this is right. The send placement project 197 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:52,720 Do we receive the report or no? Yeah, >> just for information only for 198 00:15:52,079 --> 00:15:57,759 discussion. >> For discussion. Yes, 199 00:15:53,920 --> 00:16:03,160 » discussions. Okay. So there is uh recommendations on page 7 of 29. 200 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:22,240 So I'll go ahead and move that addressment 201 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:28,639 of a waterfront center concept based on natural rock mon design oriented towards 202 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:33,600 the inlet and to investigate a site layout that retain that retains the 203 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:38,240 existing juniper bush where practical well ensuring accessibility and 204 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:43,920 ceremonial functionality. and further that staff uh explore opportunities to 205 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:48,880 incorporate local and indigenous commemorative elements to the final 206 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:54,079 decision and that staff seek external funding to support the existing budget 207 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:57,079 to ensure higher funding. I second my motion. 208 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,199 » Comments. >> Any discussion? 209 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:07,120 » Comments. Any discussion? >> No. 210 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,600 » Discuss the question. >> Okay, that's good. 211 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:12,600 » All those in favor? >> I 212 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:24,480 the battle design survey. Any accept that or is that just for 213 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:32,000 information? No, it's uh again there's recommendations this time on page 13 to 214 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:38,559 29. What staff is looking for is uh is after council review of the conceptual 215 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:45,440 drawings and the uh the plan outlines are any recommended changes um any 216 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:54,480 recommended additions or subtractions. um and ultimately uh approval to move to 217 00:17:49,760 --> 00:18:02,320 the next step um which would uh um to bring forward a work plan and and 218 00:17:57,919 --> 00:18:10,000 a budget for council to consider >> something like recommendation. 219 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:14,720 » I would you go back up. >> Oh Julie, sorry if I had a coin. Go 220 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,160 ahead. you see. 221 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:23,520 » I was just wondering if because the next step is a work plan 222 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:29,360 and budget if there would be any opportunity to do 223 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:34,160 any public consultation on this. Um the reason is is just the parking those 224 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:37,840 kinds of things. I'd like to know how much parking people think they need. 225 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:45,679 Right now in one of the concept designs we've got 13. 226 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:51,760 Oh, I can't see it. Where is it? >> 13. And the other one we've got 10. And 227 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:56,480 I just don't Yeah, I made my comments on the uh email that I sent out that should 228 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:01,200 have been distributed. Uh I I really think we should go to public so we 229 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:05,039 understand what they want before I mean if they want to park there that kind of 230 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:09,919 defeats some of the purpose of a park or maybe we'd have to move the park over 231 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:15,880 towards uh 146 McQuina. I'm just wondering how Yeah. to get some feedback 232 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,880 on this. 233 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:26,480 » Uh I'd like to move that uh staff be directed to bring Florida work plan and 234 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:30,480 cost associated with the proposed upgrades as outlined in the attached 235 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:35,440 drawings to council including budget sources and work that can be for be 236 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:38,440 performed in house. Second 237 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,880 » discussion. 238 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:49,480 » Personally, I like design number one, 239 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:59,559 but I'm also very happy we've got to this point. This is awesome. 240 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:13,728 any preference for you? >> Uh just to move forward a bit. 241 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:16,320 » Yeah. Yeah. I don't think either one [clears throat] 242 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,919 I don't think uh it'll make a big difference. 243 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,679 We can get it organized and working properly for the community. That's where 244 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,919 I'm at. >> I agree. 245 00:20:25,679 --> 00:20:36,159 » All those in favor? Hi. Hi. >> Can I Oh, sorry. 246 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:39,840 I still had comments. That's okay. >> Did I hear a comment or 247 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:43,520 » We're going to need to give staff there. We're going to need to give staff an 248 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:49,159 answer whether it's one, two, or something different so that they can 249 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:49,159 come forward with a work plan at a bud. 250 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:57,360 And also that was a question through to staff is how can we reach out to the 251 00:20:53,120 --> 00:21:02,640 public to get some public uh ask or uh public information on this 252 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:09,360 » through the uh the chair to Mayor Cobborn um first with council direction 253 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:13,720 um to do so. Um, and then we could do surveys much like we did with the 254 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Senate. 255 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:29,120 » I would love to do that just so uh I'm wondering if there is like uh need for 256 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:36,039 children's play area like how people how people envision it. It it'll be a public 257 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:36,039 park. It'll be their park. So 258 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,760 I can make a subsequent afterwards 259 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,200 » you've got a question on the table. So 260 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:52,799 » that's the the motion question. >> Oh 261 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:57,960 » yeah. Gman. >> All in favor? 262 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,960 » I 263 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:02,679 opposed. >> Opposed. 264 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:13,039 » So, I'll make that motion that we go to a public survey and discuss options for 265 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:19,440 option one. I forget which page that is. uh and just get some public feedback on 266 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:24,120 uh preferences of uh children's activities, seating places, things like 267 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,120 that. 268 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,840 » You second. >> Yeah. Seconds 269 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,760 in favor. >> I'll just Sorry. 270 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:42,720 » Uh [clears throat] I I agree with what Mayor Coin said about uh similar survey 271 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:47,320 to the Senate Taft. I think that was appropriate. Thank you. 272 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,840 » All those in favor? >> I 273 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:14,240 just speak to CAO for a sec. Do you want some instruction on 274 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:20,559 sending out information as per the Senate effect for this parking or do we 275 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:26,880 give you some direction at a later date? Um through the the chair um is council's 276 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:32,400 prerogative to direct staff how how you wish. Um we can we can work with the 277 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:37,520 information that uh that we have or if there's further information you would 278 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:43,280 like to provide. Um it would be uh it would be beneficial to uh to to hone in 279 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:46,280 that direction so that uh um we can define. 280 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:54,640 Okay. Thanks. I move that we direct council 281 00:23:52,400 --> 00:24:02,880 at a later meeting on how to advertise this and get public 282 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:09,080 input before we go too far. >> I'll second that. Yeah. Okay. 283 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,080 » Discussion. 284 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:18,320 All in favor? I >> go ahead, Mayor Coburn. 285 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:28,960 » Yeah. And I almost think that we could do that via email if there was a want or 286 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:32,320 a need to move forward on this. Um, you know, some of the questions I was 287 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,960 wondering is about uh need for covered area. Does there need to be one in both 288 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:44,400 of those areas between 146 and uh Rosa Island or or just one? 289 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:49,279 Is there a need for any kind of small play equipment? Uh just some super basic 290 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:54,480 questions. We're going to do it anyways, but if there's any specifics that people 291 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:58,159 were thinking they would like. So, I mean I I will I will agree with 292 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:01,279 the motion, but it's almost something we could do over email. 293 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:05,960 Okay. >> Thank you. All those in favor 294 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,640 of the question period. Was that where we're at? 295 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:23,520 » Um did I miss something? >> It depends if you want to further 296 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:27,760 discuss the uh um request for the community golf ball cart use. Um because 297 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:33,039 we've got real objections letter. >> Yeah. 298 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:37,360 » And then the staff reports. Um so uh um up to council whether you want to have 299 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:41,440 that discussion. It's next on the agenda. 300 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:45,039 » I feel we discuss what we need to 301 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:47,760 » Yeah. Same here. >> Okay. So do we receive the 302 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:52,400 correspondence? >> No need to. Okay. 303 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,720 » So then it goes to public health question period. 304 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:05,679 » Oh yeah. I I also live opposite um a lot of where the um activity is at the start 305 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:11,919 house and between real obsession. I am very very happy that there's 306 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:16,799 um electric golf carts being used because when it's vehicles it's like you 307 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:21,760 know early in the morning I don't hear anything you know if the golf carts are 308 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:27,840 being used but if trucks are being used you know it's it's it's noisy and 309 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,919 disruptive but the golf carts are just a blessing as far as I'm concerned and 310 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,679 looking in the future when I'm getting older maybe I'd like to go around town 311 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:40,559 on the It might have a little bit easier, 312 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,559 » especially if you open the golf course, right? 313 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:59,200 » Oh, it's down now. >> Sorry, my time has passed. I'm not 314 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,679 interrupting public question period. That was from the previous one. It's 315 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,919 good. >> My apologies. 316 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,159 Anyone else for 317 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:16,960 Walton? I live in this town and I'm I'm kind of uh on board with the idea of 318 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:20,559 using the golf carts. They can move people around, not take up a lot of 319 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:25,840 space or parking becomes an issue at times and 320 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:30,240 something small is kind of a blessing. Uh, and when it comes to the center, 321 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:34,559 they talk about having other things around it like, you know, a cover or 322 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:39,200 whatever. I've been across Canada and I've seen 323 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:45,360 lots of sun caps, but I've never seen anything to take away the importance and 324 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:51,159 the remembrance of having a senap. It stands alone in my brain. Thank you. 325 00:27:56,399 --> 00:28:02,640 That's it. >> You can kick them out. No, 326 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,640 » we have a regular call. 327 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,360 » I move we adjourn now. 328 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:17,399 » Do you need me to come back to a different meeting?