Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting November 15th 2021

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[3:59] good um everyone i would like to call
[4:01] this connected city council meeting from monday november the 15th
[4:05] to order i will go straight from the
[4:07] finance mr paul ordered finance committee the first
[4:12] item is downtown connecticut assessment
[4:14] district for mr selango
[4:23] hi good evening everybody uh james lingo
[4:25] with the downtown connecticut
[4:27] corporation and um
[4:30] it's nice to be back in this room i
[4:31] don't think i've been in here for two
[4:32] years so good to see everybody in person
[4:37] you should have your budget that came in
[4:39] uh in the packet
[4:41] so
[4:43] our 2022 budget represents
[4:47] i guess getting a lot more back to
[4:49] normal after a few years of
[4:53] challenging times for everybody my
[4:55] budget last year was paired back a bit
[4:58] because we certainly couldn't do all the
[5:00] things that we normally would do with
[5:02] all the essential things but this year
[5:04] we're really looking at 2022 is being uh
[5:14] the first page um as you recall and i'll remind you that
[5:19] um you know we give you the entire budget of the
[5:23] downtown connecticut corporation
[5:25] so you can see how everything fits into
[5:27] context
[5:29] the first page you have here is
[5:32] what the city council will prove is the
[5:34] um
[5:35] the total amount of the
[5:37] assessment that goes towards the
[5:39] cost of our operations so
[5:42] back in 20
[5:44] end of 2019
[5:45] when i stood here
[5:47] we explained how
[5:48] with the expansion of our district
[5:52] 2020
[5:53] where we started operating in little
[5:55] italy uh the stretch of erie from union
[5:58] to
[5:59] knox street and then also the lower part
[6:01] of broadway to the highway
[6:03] that we had a strategy to help
[6:06] pay for the expansion that we were going
[6:08] to be um
[6:11] incrementally adding to the assessment
[6:13] until we got to
[6:15] a point where we could be a little bit
[6:17] more balanced we did not do that last
[6:19] year because of pandemic we decided it
[6:21] was
[6:22] proven that everybody was going through
[6:23] but
[6:24] starting for 2022 as you can see we've
[6:27] we're getting back to that strategy so
[6:29] you see the increase the proposed
[6:31] increase in the assessment on that page
[6:34] and along with that there's the
[6:37] small increase in the base participation
[6:39] fee
[6:40] from 295 to 350 million which is less
[6:43] than
[6:44] two dollars a month
[6:47] and then on the second page is the full
[6:50] dsisd budget
[6:53] showing
[6:54] uh
[6:55] both income and expenses and
[6:57] as the council is like to see in
[6:59] previous years year over year 2022 and
[7:03] how it compares against
[7:05] 2021.
[7:07] are there any questions
[7:15] as a um of you know coping and
[7:17] everything that happened and cutting
[7:19] back a little bit did you do the
[7:20] reduction in services
[7:22] not so much in the the outside
[7:24] maintenance program
[7:26] we didn't we had some
[7:29] plans to bring in some part-time
[7:30] seasonal you know some of it happened
[7:32] some of it didn't but that program get
[7:34] running probably what the biggest
[7:36] uh reductions were were in the
[7:39] promotional side of things
[7:40] because we couldn't do our wing lock and
[7:42] we couldn't do things that would bring a
[7:44] lot of people together to gather we
[7:46] couldn't do our building block party
[7:48] things of that nature so
[7:50] and then there's other things that we do
[7:52] that are pretty popular like our
[7:54] visitor guide for downtown that we
[7:56] produce and yeah there were so many
[7:58] unknowns with that but we
[8:01] what's reflected in the budget is sort
[8:02] of bringing
[8:03] all of those back again and
[8:06] getting
[8:07] back up to speed and hopefully
[8:09] doing a little bit more
[8:18] next is the upper union street bid with
[8:26] everyone um chris dicocco from upper
[8:28] union street business improvement
[8:30] district
[8:31] uh we are a much simpler version than
[8:34] the downtown
[8:36] district
[8:37] but we like to think we're pretty
[8:39] important up there we do a lot of good
[8:40] things and we're we're grateful to be
[8:42] part of the city and and contributing
[8:44] back
[8:45] um
[8:46] our assessment
[8:48] um you'll see at the top line we've paired back what we've done but
[8:54] what we used to do
[8:55] we've focused and targeted more on
[8:59] promoting the street through some tv
[9:02] some print ad
[9:03] promotional items updating the website
[9:06] and then really i'm focused on keeping
[9:08] the street
[9:10] clean and
[9:12] pretty enough beautification
[9:14] and and really
[9:16] trying to keep things
[9:18] looking nice and with the city's code
[9:20] enforcement and uh metroplex help at
[9:24] times to help kind of target some spots
[9:26] that that could need some help going in
[9:28] and helping the uh the
[9:31] helping encourage
[9:33] some of the the building owners to take
[9:35] care of their properties and make it look nice and and keep that
[9:39] excited
[9:40] beautification promotion that's what
[9:43] we've done we actually coveted uh turned
[9:45] out to be uh okay for us because we had
[9:49] already not planned on doing our big
[9:51] festival because a lot of work and you
[9:54] weren't yielding the returns that we had
[9:56] hoped they would
[9:58] so we had already planned those out of
[10:00] last year
[10:02] and then we wouldn't have been able to
[10:03] do it anyway so we were kind of grateful
[10:05] we we timed the the coconut market
[10:08] pretty well in terms of festivals
[10:11] if you could say that
[10:13] are there any questions
[10:15] i hold this second
[10:18] thank you thank you
[10:20] next is the city council as act as lead
[10:23] agency and be a negative declaration to
[10:26] the seeker mr ferrari
[10:32] thank you
[10:33] council president council uh mayor um
[10:37] you know actually we have uh two uh two
[10:39] requests um for the same project as at
[10:42] us as a lead agency and for the seeker
[10:45] and also the orders for the uh
[10:47] construction water walls i'd like to
[10:49] bring up uh our ogs manager uh paula
[10:52] fonda who leads the water soar and mike
[10:55] miller explained uh uh what what
[10:59] these uh ordinances are about
[11:09] did you understand you're a charming
[11:10] person so um
[11:18] to get us on the list for potential
[11:21] grant money uh from new york state efc
[11:25] there is a deadline for this as a next
[11:27] week
[11:28] but it does allow the city to
[11:30] potentially
[11:32] receive up to six million dollars in
[11:34] grant for this project
[11:36] also the other things that we see is the
[11:38] ability to get low-interest loans or no
[11:41] interest loans
[11:43] really it's an application to get us on
[11:45] the list
[11:46] um
[11:48] the welfield's you know survival project
[11:51] originally into mobile fields so
[11:52] consider the 12 walls
[11:54] approximately 70 years old
[11:56] four wells have been out of service for
[11:58] years now
[12:00] every year you know you do our well
[12:02] replacement program um you rehab our
[12:04] wells but they are getting to a point
[12:07] where we have to do some you know some
[12:09] work and look at putting in new wells
[12:12] and if we can get
[12:14] white said you know
[12:16] 60 on the dollar 60 cents on a dollar to
[12:19] other sources
[12:20] we'd like to apply for this potential
[12:22] brand but mike can explain to mark
[12:24] mike's been very successful with us on
[12:26] other projects with the pump station
[12:28] with efc and giving us some grants there
[12:31] uh and of course maine so um cha's done
[12:34] a great help to the city and um you know
[12:36] finding some money and some
[12:37] opportunities for grants and low
[12:39] interest and rolling his homes for us so
[12:41] thanks paul
[12:42] yeah some of you may recall as part of
[12:44] the force main work and the pump station
[12:46] work we've helped the city secure over
[12:48] 20 millions of 20 million dollars in
[12:50] regard to those projects so when paul
[12:52] asked us to do a preliminary review of
[12:55] the wells and
[12:58] supporting facilities out at the well
[13:00] field
[13:01] we looked at the program we went in we
[13:03] did a comprehensive look at all the
[13:05] assets at the facility
[13:07] and we sat down and we made some
[13:09] recommendations working with the city in
[13:11] terms of where you were as paul said
[13:14] it's an 80 year old well field as you
[13:16] can imagine a lot of the facilities that
[13:18] kind of run uh towards the end of their
[13:21] uh
[13:22] their service life
[13:24] so we're looking to invest some money or
[13:26] paul was looking to invest some money in
[13:28] the well field and bring it back up to
[13:30] speed
[13:31] and up to you know really building in
[13:33] that resiliency and that redundancy that quite frankly the state expects in
[13:37] these systems
[13:39] as you can imagine this is a critical
[13:41] facility this is this is your water
[13:42] supply
[13:43] this is the water supply for not only
[13:45] the entire city your support other
[13:47] adjoining municipalities as well
[13:49] so this is one of the most important
[13:51] assets that this city has
[13:53] so when we develop the program
[13:56] you know one of the things we first do
[13:58] is and try to pair it up with the grant
[14:00] money and for the drinking water
[14:03] the weha funds
[14:05] they're available
[14:07] due to your mean household income you're
[14:09] eligible for these funds not all
[14:11] communities are
[14:13] they're intended to serve
[14:16] environmental justice areas and under
[14:18] underprivileged entities within
[14:20] communities so that's kind of the target
[14:22] audience the state is looking to support
[14:24] with these funding programs
[14:26] of which you qualify
[14:28] so we did go forth and essentially set
[14:31] up a two-phase program for the city
[14:34] which would allow you to go in and apply
[14:36] for vf funding this year and then again
[14:38] next year in support of this program
[14:41] so essentially the way the program works
[14:43] is you get sixty percent on the dollar
[14:46] up to three million three million
[14:48] dollars in a given year
[14:49] so that's why we phased it out the way
[14:51] we did
[14:52] now that being said
[14:54] um as you can imagine
[14:56] uh the state was kind of in limbo they
[14:59] were waiting for the federal
[15:00] infrastructure bill to pass
[15:03] so this program kind of slid a little
[15:05] bit later into the fall than they
[15:06] anticipated
[15:09] they did not actually wait until that
[15:11] pass they got to the point where they
[15:12] had to act
[15:13] and then opened up the window but it was
[15:16] a smaller window and they were looking
[15:17] for people to
[15:19] you know apply by the end of the year so
[15:20] that they could get this funding going
[15:22] because
[15:23] the state's very proud they actually
[15:25] have the largest state revolving fund in
[15:27] the nation
[15:28] they're very proud of that fact
[15:30] they love the fact that they support
[15:32] these water wastewater projects
[15:34] and you got to spend the money in order
[15:36] for the feds to keep getting you
[15:38] so we're trying to help the state spend
[15:40] some money here
[15:42] so that being said there are two
[15:44] ordinances or resolutions that are
[15:46] before us
[15:48] in support of the grant application
[15:50] we have to pass them past the
[15:52] environmental negative negative
[15:54] declaration
[15:56] and then of course we have to pass
[15:58] a bond resolution
[16:00] that talks about the financing of the
[16:01] project
[16:03] so right now the project is listed on
[16:05] the state dependent use plan so we have
[16:09] the option to get financing through that
[16:10] program
[16:12] and
[16:14] the application deadline is actually
[16:18] november 22nd
[16:20] at five o'clock
[16:22] so we are
[16:24] inquiring as to whether there's a way to
[16:25] pass these resolutions prior to that
[16:27] final deadline
[16:29] because we wouldn't want to necessarily
[16:31] get excluded
[16:32] for uh passing a
[16:34] resolution explain to them too is uh uh
[16:38] even though we passed this behind
[16:39] resolution that authorizes us to borrow
[16:42] money but we necessarily drive with our
[16:44] own money because of the
[16:46] you explain that to them too yeah
[16:48] essentially what we're doing this is a grant application and
[16:51] financing application
[16:53] we put forth the applications if we
[16:55] don't receive the grant funding
[16:57] you don't have to move forward uh even
[16:59] if you do receive the grant funding you
[17:02] still don't have to sign a contract to
[17:03] accept that it's just most people do
[17:06] most people when they're handed three
[17:08] million dollars we usually take it and
[17:11] there's two phases of the project and he
[17:12] says three is phase one and phase two
[17:14] for next year which would be the
[17:16] additional three
[17:18] are there any questions
[17:21] just the logistical problem is to get
[17:24] the application in
[17:27] later on today on monday where going
[17:30] with the council wouldn't meet until
[17:32] seven o'clock
[17:34] on monday so looking for your
[17:36] consideration to convene a special
[17:39] meeting
[17:40] to
[17:42] affirmatively act
[17:45] these areas
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[17:49] so what is the overall cost
[17:51] for this project
[17:54] both phases were roughly 12 months and a
[17:56] half a little over 12. the first phase
[17:58] was 7 million that was the installation
[18:00] of three new wells yeah the second phase
[18:04] after their connection would be the
[18:06] upgrade for the chemical system skating
[18:08] system
[18:09] um
[18:10] and the buildings
[18:12] and we did have you know there is an epa
[18:14] report um
[18:16] epa did come in you know they did um
[18:18] look at our chemical feed systems and we
[18:20] did tell them that we were under a
[18:22] review by our consulting engineer to
[18:24] upgrade the system so um
[18:30] you know the system's getting old i mean
[18:32] if you think about it the chemical feed
[18:34] system has not been touched in you know
[18:36] i gotta say
[18:38] 25 years
[18:40] chlorine system the
[18:43] fluoride system so
[18:46] it needs to be upgraded
[18:47] this is our water usability
[18:49] you look around the country with
[18:50] problems coming out west you know with
[18:52] water shortages of water
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[19:09] to supply you know the demand here in
[19:12] the city that's human right and we you
[19:14] know we provide those other two
[19:16] communities
[19:17] so we're asking um so we're going to go
[19:19] up to seek six million dollars in grants
[19:22] where is the other 6.5 billion coming
[19:24] from
[19:25] the state revolving fund in theory the
[19:27] drinking water state revolving product
[19:29] would be financed through the
[19:31] srf um unless of course the city
[19:33] determined that they wanted to isn't it
[19:36] today it just passed in new york city
[19:38] he's going to get 17 billion dollars for
[19:39] the clean water act i mean that's
[19:41] something that's going to be opened up
[19:43] too right our infrastructure very
[19:45] appreciated yeah i wonder one of the
[19:46] things to remember we have a very very
[19:49] healthy grant pool right now it's 400
[19:51] million dollars that's allocated for
[19:54] leah funding this year which is
[19:55] tremendous
[19:56] that's why i hate to see you miss an
[19:58] opportunity to go in and just grab your
[20:01] small share of that at 3 million
[20:04] but that being said
[20:07] uh with the federal bill passing
[20:10] we simply don't know what kind of
[20:12] additional favorable terms
[20:15] efc may throw out as part of that that
[20:17] additional funding
[20:19] so you know our advice is to try and get
[20:21] in now
[20:24] there's an opportunity to get zero
[20:26] interest loans things like that through
[20:28] this program because there's gonna be so
[20:30] much money coming into the state
[20:34] are there any other questions
[20:39] all right so then we will take these as
[20:42] question
[20:44] two separate motions
[20:48] and then we'll discuss the logistics
[20:50] piece after
[20:51] the first one will be emotion for the
[20:55] seeker
[20:57] second all in favor
[21:00] and next is a motion for the bond
[21:03] ordinance
[21:04] second how does it fail
[21:07] and then the logistical part about the
[21:09] meeting
[21:11] um
[21:12] yeah i'll probably 40 percent then we'll
[21:14] schedule something as well and say okay
[21:17] for a slow
[21:18] wednesday
[21:20] friday
[21:21] three years
[21:23] friday except to do the lead turn for
[21:25] the notice yep
[21:30] [Music]
[21:37] we have the flexibility under
[21:39] the law we still have to have a place in
[21:42] the public for the special meeting
[21:45] attendance virtually so i believe it's
[21:47] possible under the change in the law you
[21:50] have to have video it has to be set up
[21:52] and all that they can't escape
[21:56] so it's friday it's friday okay with
[21:58] everyone
[22:00] john
[22:02] 5 30.
[22:06] the grant application is actually due
[22:09] 11 22 at 5.
[22:12] [Music]
[23:06] miraculously
[23:09] [Music]
[23:34] bye
[23:40] and we'll have this done great thank you
[23:42] very much thank you very much thank you
[23:43] very much
[23:44] thank you all right next is the
[23:46] discussion of the uh
[23:48] survey preliminary data here
[23:52] thank you mr chairman i sent around to
[23:55] the council
[23:57] variety
[23:58] summary of the
[24:00] results
[24:01] [Music]
[24:14] yeah we have those copies here
[24:16] [Music]
[24:43] again this is just the uh
[24:46] summary of the survey
[24:48] uh giving people a chance to look at
[24:50] that
[24:51] taking into consideration
[24:54] is
[24:55] part of the deliberations
[24:57] we're also
[24:59] getting ready to put a application
[25:02] form
[25:03] [Music]
[25:05] up online
[25:29] so that we can
[25:30] start to take applications into the
[25:32] money uh
[25:33] categorize them and
[25:37] start the review process if any members
[25:40] of city council if they have uh
[25:42] suggestions or edits to that if you
[25:45] could give it back
[25:46] to me
[25:47] uh
[25:48] the next day or two
[25:50] and then we'll formally get that up
[25:52] online and be able to distribute it to
[25:55] individuals and entities that are
[25:58] interested in
[26:00] applying for
[26:02] america
[26:02] [Music]
[26:05] are there any questions
[26:08] yeah do you have a timeline for this
[26:09] application
[26:10] that is not online yet just no no not in
[26:14] terms of online but like when they
[26:16] should have it back in house we're
[26:17] looking
[26:19] uh to do it by the end of the year so we
[26:21] put up the next few days have it by the
[26:23] end of december 31st and again this is
[26:26] the first phase
[26:28] you know that we're going to get more
[26:29] money in next year so
[26:31] it's a little bit tighter timeline
[26:38] been initially looked at but
[26:40] it's to uh get people thinking about it
[26:43] and starting the process it won't
[26:45] preclude people from doing things in the
[26:47] future but
[26:49] just starting the application process
[26:51] you can see how many people are
[26:53] interested what areas they're interested
[26:55] in
[26:56] and
[26:58] hopefully by the end of the year we will
[26:59] also know
[27:01] like the money that was
[27:03] in the bill that the president signed
[27:05] today
[27:06] for infrastructure just like with the
[27:08] prior topic
[27:10] where
[27:11] some of those things we might have
[27:12] considered are the money for hopefully
[27:14] some other projects will be eligible for
[27:15] this new money that's out there and we
[27:18] would apply for that or qualify for it
[27:20] under the
[27:22] rules that have been adapted
[27:25] for country
[27:28] um i was just wondering
[27:29] in terms of decision making once
[27:31] applications are in is is it in your
[27:34] community or is it just staff
[27:37] it's
[27:38] that's still open okay we looked to
[27:40] review it the council reporter was
[27:42] talking about
[27:44] some community review
[27:47] again there's different types of
[27:49] applications maybe looking for different
[27:52] areas of expertise
[27:54] to submit it to and
[27:56] again get people's ideas thoughts and
[27:59] looking for the overall impact to be the
[28:01] biggest
[28:02] leveraging resources for the community
[28:06] why don't you think you'll have a
[28:09] final report because this is
[28:13] not much i mean it's a lot of data but
[28:16] it's not very well put together so when
[28:18] do you think you'll have a
[28:20] like a finalized report
[28:22] that's at this point that
[28:25] i'm not looking to do
[28:26] [Music]
[28:28] any additional review on that mr council
[28:30] asked me to
[28:32] which might be hinting at you
[28:34] i'm gonna send you an email asking for
[28:36] everyone or do you have a report
[28:38] do you have a question well actually um
[28:41] it's kind of i was going to ask
[28:46] because i think we've heard of these
[28:48] that people really want to be a part of
[28:49] the process and i don't think you have
[28:51] to concern yourself about people waiting
[28:53] for people to start thinking about this
[28:54] people are already thinking about this
[28:56] they're always trying to
[29:00] i think it's uh really important that uh
[29:03] since this is a one-time thing we think
[29:05] that we get the community but you know
[29:07] this you know it's a lot of money and
[29:09] it's going to impact our city so
[29:11] have folks that you know have the skill
[29:13] set and i think that's part of it as
[29:14] well but to have a community but
[29:17] it's part of it um and i'm not a survey
[29:20] expert i don't know who you are but i
[29:23] was going back through my notes from all
[29:24] the community meetings
[29:26] while i was also reviewing the survey
[29:28] and
[29:29] while there's
[29:31] some
[29:32] before
[29:34] overlap between what we had and what we
[29:36] heard at the painting meetings and
[29:39] what folks said in this survey there's
[29:40] like 196 people that responded to the
[29:43] survey it would be sort of interesting i
[29:46] didn't have time today i was going to
[29:47] try to type up some notes from the
[29:48] various community meetings um and get
[29:50] them out to everybody i didn't get a
[29:52] chance but um
[29:54] i think that would be kind of an
[29:55] interesting overview as well
[29:58] to look at
[29:59] while we look at the survey results is
[30:01] to also look at and i'm sure other
[30:03] people took notes and have impressions
[30:05] as well from the beauty
[30:12] so how much money do we have left to
[30:14] spend i know that we had some other
[30:16] funds that we need to do things for the
[30:17] city so at this point in time
[30:20] do you have that number i thought mr
[30:21] ferrari but i think he got out
[30:24] he is left
[30:26] uh
[30:29] some of that still will be determined by
[30:31] the city council what we use for revenue
[30:34] replacement some of those internal uses
[30:37] of it
[30:38] the budget for 2022 uses
[30:43] 4.3 million
[30:48] again
[30:49] so
[30:50] i don't have an exact dollar on that
[30:53] and
[30:54] it's one of the things that look to work
[30:56] with the council over
[30:58] the next few weeks to narrow that down
[31:02] and
[31:04] do we want to say
[31:07] there's going to be targeted
[31:09] pools of money are we going to use it
[31:10] for housing are we going to use it for
[31:14] small businesses
[31:16] and uh
[31:17] you know being come to some agreement on
[31:19] that so that uh people would know how
[31:22] much money is in a certain category when
[31:25] they're doing the applications
[31:27] yeah
[31:28] just don't have it
[31:34] [Music]
[31:45] the public safety
[31:47] we have one item there and financial
[31:49] europe
[31:50] state holding a security grant
[32:10] application was submitted to homeland
[32:11] security it's an annual grant that we
[32:14] apply for
[32:15] collaborative grant between albany city
[32:18] of albany city troy city's county
[32:20] counties evolving wrestler
[32:22] and uh
[32:24] um kind of legislation application for
[32:26] at the right time because there's a
[32:27] budget on it i can find any item that
[32:29] you'd like but this year is a 203
[32:32] 670
[32:34] grant um
[32:35] for the cities country
[32:37] so again broken down these categories
[32:40] are broken down because there's national
[32:42] priorities this is especially true fema
[32:44] the money comes from homeland security
[32:51] any question
[32:53] you're not
[33:03] any other business for public safety
[33:05] second all in favor aye thank you uh
[33:09] call to order city development and
[33:10] planning there are four items on the
[33:12] agenda
[33:15] okay
[33:18] so the first item
[33:24] actually well give them a minute so i'm
[33:26] going to just jump down to number four
[33:28] for the ceremony resolutions connect the
[33:31] belmont pop warner
[33:32] um i asked this to be put on the agenda
[33:34] these young people have been working
[33:36] really hard and playing hard and have
[33:38] been successful they
[33:39] won
[33:40] what was it called the um super bowl the
[33:42] local super bowl two years running and
[33:44] now they're in a competition to go
[33:46] statewide so i thought it would just be
[33:47] great to be able to
[33:49] give them a resolution to recognize what
[33:51] they're doing and to just kind of like
[33:53] put them before the public because
[33:54] they're doing a great job and we have
[33:56] talked so much about youth and
[33:57] activities for you so this is a good
[33:59] time to to recognize the young people
[34:03] so
[34:04] okay
[34:25] simply beautiful it's a sign i believe
[34:26] it used to be the former cast cafe on
[34:28] pedestrian j street
[34:30] the sign
[34:31] uh
[34:32] overhangs right away is typical it has a
[34:35] similar typical look as the signs do on
[34:37] pedestrian j street it's been through
[34:39] planning and there's been no issues so
[34:41] looking forward to vote
[34:44] any questions
[34:46] second
[34:52] [Music]
[34:56] so as you know we've been working for
[34:58] almost two years now in the replacement
[35:00] of the kings road bridge between the
[35:02] city of connecticut and town rotterdam
[35:04] um due to the increase with the bridge
[35:06] because we're going to be having uh
[35:08] added with on the shoulders or bikes and
[35:11] the sidewalk for pedestrians
[35:13] there's been some right of way necessary
[35:16] to accommodate it um so to do that
[35:18] through this procedure which says
[35:21] domain procedure we need to have a
[35:22] health problem hearing um we're working
[35:24] with both uh mr coldin and rk height and
[35:27] our consultant on this process
[35:38] just
[35:39] some background in terms of damaging
[35:41] domain we initially went out to the
[35:43] property owners to see if they would
[35:46] sell the small pieces of land to the
[35:48] city
[35:51] without getting into too much detail if
[35:53] there was one person who was willing to
[35:55] sell
[35:57] there was one person who has
[35:59] unfortunately passed away the owner the
[36:00] last owner of record which creates an
[36:02] issue um because there's no surrogacy or
[36:05] anything like that and then i think um
[36:08] maybe with the other parcel or two
[36:09] parcels same owner who's unwilling to
[36:12] sell but the only way to obviously
[36:15] accomplish
[36:17] this project is we need to obviously
[36:19] have you know control over that small
[36:21] part and these are called strip takings
[36:24] right they're not
[36:25] properly they're in a small part to make
[36:27] the right of way five to ten feet wider
[36:30] so that we could do the construction
[36:31] that's needed
[36:35] yes
[36:36] so is this just going to be an
[36:37] adjustment for the bee
[36:38] i'm sorry you're just adjusting the v so
[36:41] like there's a survey right that has to
[36:43] be done and i see a splitting of the
[36:45] parcel so we have a new tax map id
[36:48] for those parcels and then we go through
[36:50] the process
[36:52] right
[36:53] so there's no splitting of the deed it's
[36:54] just a
[36:55] tax for like tax map purposes that would
[36:58] have to be splitting the parcels
[37:02] any other questions
[37:06] does the owner know that we're
[37:09] going to probably be going down this
[37:10] path
[37:11] well i i wasn't part of the conversation
[37:14] with the owners um bob did that
[37:17] um
[37:21] you know we
[37:22] essentially what we do is we um
[37:25] determine what the value of the land is
[37:26] that's what a fair market value for that
[37:28] surface is we make the offer to sell it
[37:30] at that fair market value
[37:32] um and you know obviously we can sweeten
[37:35] the pot because
[37:37] it's a task to do a domain right um
[37:41] but if they refuse to sell and we need
[37:43] it for this public purpose
[37:45] um you know they're gonna receive notice
[37:48] it's not as if we just go ahead and take
[37:50] it there's a process involved where they
[37:52] have notice
[37:54] and have the ability to represent
[37:55] themselves or hire you know
[37:57] legal counsel
[37:58] but
[38:00] it's
[38:00] obviously codified
[38:04] and this is not the first week of the
[38:06] process we've been actually doing this
[38:07] for about six months now working with
[38:09] the property owner and trying to get to
[38:11] a state of product so and there have
[38:13] been searching involved to know who the
[38:15] lawful owner is and you know a bunch of
[38:18] backstory before we get to this point
[38:20] here
[38:20] [Music]
[38:26] second
[38:27] favorite
[38:28] thank you and the third one supplemental
[38:31] agreement number two
[38:33] uh for the
[38:34] haitian cities connectivity county from
[38:36] roseville to window avenue yes so uh
[38:39] everywhere you guys awarded the calendar
[38:41] not rows of wendell intersection
[38:43] improvements which is currently taking
[38:44] place we forwarded that award on the new
[38:48] york state department of transportation
[38:50] they concurred the award and issued us a
[38:53] federal authorization in the form of the
[38:55] supplemental agreement the supplemental
[38:57] agreement will allow the city to be
[38:58] reimbursed for the construction costs on
[39:01] the project
[39:02] um because this is a federal aid project
[39:04] so as you see right here the i believe
[39:06] it's 400
[39:08] 487 000 of the construction costs are
[39:11] reimbursable
[39:13] so
[39:14] it's it's a reimbursement so you know
[39:16] we're doing some of the work now we're
[39:18] setting the curbs in place actually i
[39:20] was out there today it looks uh starting
[39:22] to starting to take shape you can see it
[39:24] one of the issues that we're having that
[39:25] i brought up before is still supply
[39:27] chain
[39:28] whereas in a lot of those areas that you
[39:30] see we're going to put temporary asphalt
[39:32] in because our signal installers have to
[39:35] come and put in large foundations and
[39:38] new things because we're getting an
[39:39] all-new traffic signal and each traffic
[39:41] signal also have pedestrian
[39:42] accommodations have their own
[39:44] foundations
[39:45] so we're trying to get ahead but the
[39:46] supply chain is a little hard for us but
[39:50] even with the curve in right now it's
[39:51] already made a difference and you're
[39:53] going to be able to cross
[39:55] across the road across the window of the
[39:57] shorter crossing using the median
[39:59] this year which would be nice because
[40:01] we've kind of eliminated that large
[40:02] crossing
[40:04] so
[40:05] you know it's progress but this is the
[40:06] next step so that we can get reimbursed
[40:08] for any costs we've heard and thank you
[40:10] for a long time
[40:36] operations we have three items on the
[40:38] agenda
[40:40] first item on discussion osn broadcast
[40:42] of city council and committee meetings mr
[40:45] pauline
[40:46] so mr schmidt couldn't be here tonight
[40:49] i'm osm so i'll just give some of the
[40:52] information
[40:54] and then
[40:55] i think it's more appropriate to let him
[40:58] speak to these issues so i reached out
[41:01] he recommended reaching out to a company
[41:03] like savvy or eos technologies which is
[41:07] down in area boulevard to update
[41:09] equipment and perform some cable
[41:11] management
[41:13] [Music]
[41:14] he said some specific issues that need
[41:16] to be addressed are the committee board
[41:19] room here needs new audio system
[41:22] and looking at gooseneck mics similar to
[41:25] what's in the console chambers
[41:28] this would help eliminate some of the
[41:29] sounds of the air conditioners and
[41:32] background noises for presentations he
[41:36] would
[41:37] recommend a roll-out podium with a
[41:40] planted mic to centralize audio and keep
[41:43] the presenter centered
[41:45] he says the committee room also needs
[41:47] new wiring back up to the control room
[41:49] behind the console chambers
[41:51] and an additional wire ram for second
[41:55] cameras
[41:57] off florida's all team by the way
[41:59] this would give us give them two angles
[42:02] of video in the committee board room as
[42:04] opposed to just warmth
[42:06] and
[42:07] [Music]
[42:08] city council chambers needs one wire ran
[42:11] and installed back to the control area
[42:13] to feed the third camera
[42:15] and the cordless handheld mics
[42:18] the council uses also need to be
[42:20] replaced
[42:22] it's a lot the internet stream quality
[42:24] stems from a lack of sufficient
[42:26] bandwidth in the room
[42:29] and
[42:30] this has been communicated to our i.t
[42:32] staff
[42:34] and that's the large reason for
[42:37] the stream getting weak and dropping out
[42:41] he says this is
[42:42] this we can address without outside
[42:44] consultation
[42:47] probably a new wired connection ran to
[42:49] the control room which could be
[42:51] installed so he's offered to
[42:55] reach out to the companies
[42:57] so i think that's probably our best
[43:00] approach so we get some idea of
[43:02] cost
[43:04] given that we
[43:05] want to say a year and a half or two ago
[43:08] we put in a chunk of money so that we
[43:11] wouldn't have these issues
[43:12] um so we'll see what this costs
[43:15] and then
[43:16] i'll forward you this information so you
[43:19] all have it and then
[43:21] ask him to try to get some
[43:23] preliminary numbers and exacts and
[43:27] hopefully happen in two weeks
[43:30] so you mentioned a company is there more
[43:32] than one company that you would be
[43:33] looking at so that you know
[43:35] there's two companies
[43:37] savvy and eos okay so
[43:40] this is something i'm sure we have had
[43:42] about today
[43:44] it depends on what you cost
[43:46] a lot of things
[43:50] some of those items pricing around the
[43:52] state contract
[43:55] [Music]
[44:05] and so the next step on this is
[44:09] have him reach out to the company see if
[44:11] we can get some numbers and see if he's
[44:14] available in two weeks hopefully
[44:15] okay
[44:18] any other questions
[44:20] i just got a text message that the
[44:23] video audio was blacked out
[44:29] so
[44:30] um
[44:31] you were out on vacation but i sent an
[44:33] email
[44:34] one of the questions i have is
[44:37] do the meetings need to be live or not
[44:40] and
[44:41] because
[44:42] this is just an ongoing issue
[44:45] and i know i get text messages every
[44:47] meeting
[44:48] you know
[44:49] i can't hear anything
[44:51] i can't see anything
[44:53] and you know it's hard when you're
[44:55] trying to pay attention and answer
[44:57] people in text messaging
[44:59] i don't have control over the audio
[45:01] sorry
[45:02] but
[45:03] you know that might handle some of it i
[45:05] don't know
[45:06] i have an inclination to my answer but i
[45:08] want to reserve what i'm going to say
[45:09] because i just want to verify the
[45:10] information okay um and i'll send an
[45:13] email out just
[45:15] answering that question that way it just
[45:16] gives us all a bunch of options because
[45:19] it just comes back as a
[45:21] 150 000
[45:23] uh you know
[45:25] i'm not sure that's
[45:27] something that
[45:30] we might have got to do maybe not so it
[45:32] just gives us options that's all i'm
[45:33] looking for i'll give you guys so
[45:36] thank you
[45:37] so hopefully you can see i will get that
[45:39] answer and you can also hear from mr
[45:41] schmidt and couple weeks
[45:44] back on the agenda
[45:49] discussion calling for public hearings
[45:51] to amend chapter
[45:53] 87 eleven of the calling the city of
[45:55] schenectady very holidays and this is a
[45:57] follow-up to discussion
[45:58] of june 21st regarding juneteenth
[46:03] so um
[46:04] i think mr moonvery
[46:06] we had talked about this earlier about
[46:08] um
[46:09] duo teams was
[46:11] considered considered a federal holiday
[46:13] now and do we amend our code to reflect that as well
[46:18] at the last discussion i think we
[46:19] haven't even asked us to hold on until
[46:21] all the union contracts have completed
[46:23] so now it's
[46:25] contracts are completed the ones that
[46:27] were pending
[46:28] and it says that
[46:30] paid holidays are always recognized by
[46:32] the city of council and really what we
[46:33] did was
[46:34] teams
[46:35] so you had to see that
[46:38] under the contracts but
[46:40] [Music]
[46:48] so um so this is so what we're asking
[46:51] now for the council to actually um you
[46:53] know to amend the city code so that it
[46:55] reflects that as well
[46:58] any questions discussion
[47:02] all those in favor
[47:03] [Music]
[47:05] and final item on the agenda discussion
[47:07] receiving two new council members to
[47:09] fill vacancies mr munavera
[47:11] yeah thank you i just placed this on the
[47:13] agenda just to start a discussion in
[47:15] terms of a
[47:17] seating
[47:18] slashing painting
[47:20] and i was told this afternoon that we
[47:22] can actually sit come to memory we have
[47:25] to appoint
[47:26] come to number
[47:29] so i'm not sure where we are at this
[47:30] point i was i was of the understanding
[47:32] that
[47:33] once the result is certified by board
[47:35] election
[47:36] this
[47:37] are the ones that are signed both in the
[47:39] clerk's office you will automatically
[47:40] take your seat
[47:42] and you think i was misinformed
[47:44] about that until this afternoon
[47:53] [Music]
[48:03] 13-2 e
[48:07] what the city charter says is the
[48:09] council shall appoint a qualified person
[48:11] to fill such vacancy until the first day
[48:13] of january following the next general
[48:15] election city election at which his
[48:17] successor shall be elected for the full
[48:19] unexpired term
[48:20] that is informing me that it's the
[48:23] council that would appoint somebody
[48:26] through
[48:26] december
[48:28] 31st
[48:29] of this year
[48:31] and based on the election results
[48:34] whoever you know won the election would
[48:37] take their receipt as
[48:39] the elected
[48:40] individuals
[48:42] at that time for the entire term
[48:44] so it would be up to the council to
[48:46] appoint whomever the council would like
[48:49] to appoint into the two vacant
[48:52] seats
[48:52] [Music]
[48:54] i think when we asked samantha uh
[48:56] previously how we did it when it was
[48:59] done i think it was for council members
[49:03] there was a resolution appointing her to
[49:06] the seat at the time
[49:08] that my suggestion my what i'm saying
[49:10] suggestion my
[49:12] legal opinion is that's what would have
[49:13] to happen
[49:15] in this instance as well
[49:17] and then those members
[49:18] whoever if it's the folks who are who
[49:21] won the election they would be taking
[49:22] their seats
[49:24] january 1st
[49:26] as a result of the election
[49:41] and um but i also understand that we
[49:43] have to wait until the election is
[49:44] started
[49:46] and i know that we're counting today
[49:48] technically you don't have to wait for
[49:50] it to be certified to appoint somebody
[49:52] to the seats
[49:53] fill up the vacancies
[49:55] right as long as they're
[49:57] know if they live in the city of
[49:59] connecticut
[50:01] and you know other requirements um you
[50:03] don't have to wait for it to be
[50:05] certified like previously before the
[50:06] election you could have you know the
[50:08] council would have appointed
[50:10] people to take the seats now um
[50:14] honestly
[50:15] all right so there's nothing preventing
[50:17] you from appointing somebody to
[50:19] people to fill the vacancies through the
[50:21] end of this year
[50:22] well you know we waited all the time
[50:27] [Music]
[50:38] three to the l so um if that's what
[50:41] we're talking about it's going to be
[50:42] sometime this week
[50:44] that we would
[50:46] do that
[50:47] mr mary did you have something
[50:49] i look forward to working with those
[50:51] individuals
[50:55] [Music]
[51:16] okay any other discussion
[51:18] all right so
[51:19] could be
[51:20] continued there anything else to come
[51:23] before doubling operations
[51:26] all those in favor
[51:27] thank you we are done
[51:32] [Music]
[51:48] objection
[51:49] [Music]
[52:11] i miss though