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all right good morning everybody we will
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this regular County Commission meeting
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in Teller County Colorado this intent
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really today is September 26
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2024 we appreciate you all showing up
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today and we'll get started with
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commissioner Williams leading Us in
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invation Crystal Brown our elected
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treasur and Public Trustee will lead us
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in the pledge Mr CH please bow your
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heads dear heavenly father thank you for
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another opportunity to serve the great
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residence County thank you for this time
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of year for the time of harvest a time
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of Plenty and preparation for the winter
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we pray that the folks in Florida and
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surrounded areas are spared showing your
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mercy hurricane that's been hit this
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evening we remember that division
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sometimes solved through diversity we
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just don't want to see that much
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division anymore we appreciate it his
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name
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amen United States
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America stand
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na
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indivisible thank you for that ladies
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and
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gentlemen first up we have some minutes
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from our August 20th meeting
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I
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did I
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not with that I would move to approve
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the minutes the bo County Comm County
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Colorado dat August 20th 2024 has
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presented second motion Mr chair thank
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you assing no other discussion call
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please Mr Stone yes Mr yes Mr Campell
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yes then next up we have an accounts
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payable
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[Music]
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run 924 for
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2024 and I didn't have any comments on
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that
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one I have any
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anything chair make a motion that we
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approve the accounts payable dated
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September 24th 20124 the amount of
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yes Mr
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yes all right and the next agenda item
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is board rep commissioner Stone yeah
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thank you Mr chairman um couple of
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really busy things on my schedule right
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now they're dominating a lot of time in
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work on the U region 16
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opoid
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uh op Council mitigation Council and um
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we are in the process process of uh
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doing some strategic planning within
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that group and uh we have a new
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facilitator that we hired about eight
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months ago and we're to the point now
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where we're starting to really do some
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long-term planning long-term look about
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uh what we really want to accomplish
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with this part of that is there will be
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a conference coming up and I've formed
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the board of this as well I'm going to
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be up in Leland uh at the state opioid
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uh policy convention this is where all
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the different regions across the state
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are going to come together and after
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really the First full year of boards and
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place beginning to stand up and do work
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uh and learn from each other find out
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what people are doing we uh here in
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teller and Alo counties we've discovered
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one of the areas that we have very
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limited data on that perhaps might be
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among U you know the most impacted and
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most highest risk groups of people in
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regard to Youth and youth from from age
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10 to about 21 that are being severely
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impacted not only by the opioid crisis
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but also by what feeds a lot of the
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opioid crisis which is uh High potency
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marijuana in Colorado and
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U because of that yesterday attended a
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lunch and learn with da Michael Allen as
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his guest he was the host of the event
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and we had people coming from all over
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the country to talk about po opioid
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crisis in u the uh the impacts of high
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potency cannabis and combining that with
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social media and U kind of had my eyes
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blown wide open by a lot of what I've
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learned I new social media was PR
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obviously I've worked in it for many
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years um but the ways that social media
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is now being used uh to uh to sell
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cannabis to sell opioids openly uh
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is
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astounding um you know they're simply
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using Code words U and there's a guy
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that showed us he pulled it up on his
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phone he went on Instagram and pulled up
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hashtag Colorado Springs Colorado and
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about every 10th thing that was tagged
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with that was pictures with no words of
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what was obviously illicit substances
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for sale uh in Colorado and I know we
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talked a lot with with our sheriff and
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others about you know situations here in Teller County not only dealing with
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cartels but also dealing with people and
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families that are impacted U you know by
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drug addiction and kind of what that
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does to our County and sometimes you
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know here on the south side of the
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county we see it a little more but uh
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it's it's really astounding and I think
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we're going to have to have some
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legislative fixes to it um and one of
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the things that's interesting and this
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is now shown through hundreds of studies
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is that when Colorado legalized
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marijuana uh um the average amount of
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potency in uh in cannabis or marijuana
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products was about
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5% uh
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today it's pushing 70% on average so the
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amount of cannabis that is in the
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product that people are buying whether
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it's Edibles or Vapes and Vapes by the
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way are a huge problem with youth uh
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because they're easily disguisable for
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things which are not illicit and anyway
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the uh the potency of those has created new
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problems that nobody ever saw coming
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because they had never been seen before
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and basically the old adage of the
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Cannabis is uh you know pot is not
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addictive is no longer true U evidently
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that was mostly true uh except for
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Behavioral addiction not physical
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addiction back when the potency was 5%
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but now is it's averaging 70% and you
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can actually buy
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99.9% pure THC over the counter anytime
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you want um and just a drop of it you
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know is U you know amazingly powerful
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what's happening is not only your people
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actually getting addicted but also
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because of the potency of it is that
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people no longer get the high off of uh
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off of it like you know what they used
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to so they start seeking things which
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will get them that high oh good and then
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move over to fentel and the studies and
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the data out there is showing that about
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90% they talk about Gateway products and
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people like put reality is is now there
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is a very clear and uh link between High
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potency marijuana and the use of O it's
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due to the addictive nature of high
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potency cannabis I think our legislature
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has got to do something about it they
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passed a couple of laws in 2022 in
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regards to packaging uh but nothing in
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regards to potency I'm not sure that we
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can but I think we need to try I think
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we need to do everything we can because
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it's as much as opioids have become you
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know the number one Public Health crisis
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in the country as more and more states
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legalize marijuana I truly believe that
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hypothy cannabis will be right on its
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heels uh as you know as the second
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greatest Health crisis in the country um
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so anyway I'll be going to that
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conference on the 19th and was coming
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Monday and so I'll head up on Sunday
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night and meet with other Ro acts around
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the region and see what we can learn
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from each other hopefully we can come up
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with st because the data that we don't
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have about Youth and their usage
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uh it's just simply not there the we do
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have a squat so we truly don't know how deep the problem is uh so it's one
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of the things that this particular roak
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wants to work on roak being the region
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16 opioid Cal so anyway we're we're
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going to be working on that but it's I
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said it was very eye openening uh and
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really sad we've spoken before about the
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groups that are coming you know and talk
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to us that are addicted to fit opioids
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and or you recovering from that um the very clear connection between what's
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what we have made legal in mrooms
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probably we just going to add to the to
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the mix of things that of what I'll
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continue to call elicit
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substances uh do nothing but you know
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prepare someone for seeking the next
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thing and and that's been know
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and um on a brighter note though I also
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attended the uh Toler senior Coalition
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meeting this past Thursday and to senior
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Coalition is thriving the services that
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they provide to our community uh you
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know just are tremendous uh their use of
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their medical rides uh that they provide
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for our residents has continued to
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increase they're adding a couple more
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fleet vehicles they'll be adding and
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they received the grant now for uh a
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basically a they're calling it a bus
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barn but they don't have buses they have
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vehicles and uh and shuttles but uh they
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need to get those under some kind of
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protection so they can do maintenance
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and uh and take care of those vehicles
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and they have received both planning
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grants and also initial grants for that
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and they're hoping with the next couple
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of years to you to get a maintenance
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facility built probably after the Divide
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area near where their offes are but
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again they're just doing great and Kathy
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Lowry and her team are uh really are
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rock stars for our community and by the
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way those medical rides and all of the transit rides that were available at
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81 not just
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so if you have a need you need to get to
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a medical appointment or you need uh you
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know a ride somewhere please reach out
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to tell senior poition because they can
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probably help you out um lastly U and I
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know Bob was out of town and U and so I
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committed to online attending the CCI
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the Colorado Count's Incorporated
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security committee meetings this last
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Friday we spent all day going through
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propositions from counties across the
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state on legislative issues um
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construction defects did come up again
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which was U you know a an issue I helped
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champion last year that we didn't get
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across the finish line but it's it's
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going to come back again uh and then not
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surprisingly tax issues came up and with
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the um the lack of control
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over uh you know property tax issues by
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local government where the legislature
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is stepping in and it seems like every
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year they're changing and changing and
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changing the problem create for penties
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and local governments is that from year
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to year you get a little Whiplash as to
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what your Revenue sources are what your
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stream is and you know we're trying to
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adopt a budget when they just had a
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legislative session six weeks ago to
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change yet again the formula for how we
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will uh for how we will do that so
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counties are looking for ways to
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stabilize their their revenue exam just
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so it's predictable so that we can
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predictively provide services to our
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residents uh there are some uh you know
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different ideas coming from around the
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state everything from um the ability to
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Levy unincorporated tax which currently
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doesn't exist uh in the state to uh you
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know being able to uh use certain TA in
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different ways and and loosen up
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for different type of taxes that come in
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that are currently year marked that
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maybe could could get better use 're
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kind of exploring all things so we'll
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see what comes out of that as we move CL
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of the legislature um then on another
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note I have spoken with Senator Martin
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basley there are portions of the new
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conceal car instruction law that have
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come into effect and that's uh in
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regards to the certification of firearms
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instructors by local sheriff's
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departments and our local sheriff's
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department has you know enacted a
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program of certification but as with
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many rushed and not well thought out
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laws one of the problems with this is
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that uh instructors once they get
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certified by a sheriff's department
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that's not good enough for any other
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sheriff's department under the new law
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so U and many people are probably aware
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I am an in enire was instructor and at
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times have done classes for folks and
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First Responders and but they come from
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all over you know they come from Park
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County they come from Douglas County uh
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Western El Paso County as well as our
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own County and previously that wasn't an
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issue uh because the previous law simply
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said that you had to be an n certified
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instructor you or as one of the pathways
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to receiving a concealed carry permit
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and now the law says You must be
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certified by your local sheriff which
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means if somebody who lives six miles
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north of w Park comes to a class in W
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Park and I'm not certified with the
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sheriff of D County
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then can't use my class as uh as the
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instruction that's required in the
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concealed carry law so from that I've
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gone to Mark basley also of course
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spoken with our Sheriff about it and
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fully supports the idea to uh Foster and
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sponsor legislation to essentially
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create reciprocity among counties that
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if the county shair from Teller County
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under the law has properly certified an
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instructor that any other County in
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Colorado should recognize that
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certification because otherwise that
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you're running around spending a lot of
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money make you know trying to make sure
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that you're certified in other counties
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in case you have somebody from other
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counties coming in so we're hopeful it
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sounds very common sense but not a lot
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of common sense the legisl so we'll see
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how that goes but I'm appreciative
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senator for his willingness to sponsor
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that legislation and with that I think I
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will wrap it up with that thank you Mr
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chairman thank you commissioner Stone
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commissioner Williams thank you Mr chair
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I appreciate all your work on the
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council Eric and reference CCI again Bob
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was gone I was able to tell that online
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as well Eric is our legislative do that
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every choose one of us to it's hours of
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his day and then back we get one vot as
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a County so I will say what I saw this
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year is a little more bipartisanship but
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I also saw it's an election year and so
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we have several acting currently active
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legislators that are running for high
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office and so you see some of that like
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er said the tax frustra because we just
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want to stop so we can figure out we're
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doing our people thank you for your
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leadership um really excited again you
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see a lot of advertisement Kasa Court
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pointed special Advocate I sit on that
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board several levels executive board as
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well governance board so our fifth
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annual hope will be here next Wednesday
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youth Cultural Center do open at 7 only
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the hour 7:30 8:30 uh we've probably
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already raised about $20,000 thanks to
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corporate sponsors like the mine and
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different people and I appreciate K when
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being here uh the bank and so it's
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really an opportunity to have some of
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the local folks take a lot of courage
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and explain their story kids like you
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know the folks back here and what
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they've been through and uh probably
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have I'll just keep a generic several
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dozen kids from Toler County in the
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program what that program is is if you
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lose your children for whatever reason
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abuse State steps in they are they're
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given different than a guardian a item
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they're given an advocate in state of
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Colorado that does nothing but advocate
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for that child the goal is always to
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give those children back to their
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natural parents can it doesn't always
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help doesn't always work but uh it's
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about $1,500 a person to train [ __ ] and
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that's what they use the money for and
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I'll just say this indoors open at 7
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7:30 8:30 next Wednesday at the UL
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Center all the proceeds that we raise
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will save so even though we work between
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us in the pass this is I happy to have
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the other Commissioners with us um
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braver Angels obviously braver Angels
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Holly may or may not be here today um
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but Holly runs so it goes back to
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Lincoln goes back to March 4th 1861 um
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we already had seven states to see from
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the Union uh Lincoln would be dead in
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three and a half years the country was
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falling apart very divided maybe worse
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than we are now I think and he gave an
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inaugural speech one of the shortest
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speeches he gave but he ended with prob
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can be saved if we can find the better
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angels of our nature so hat off to O I
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think Eric was there as well and Bob's
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been a big supporter and they basically
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just try to fill a room with people from
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different sides of the aisle no secret
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blue versus red was this case and it was
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about elections uh so we have a member
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of Jason's team there Pat came there I
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really appreciate it Pat and you know
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there's a lot of tension in the room as
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people came together that's really the
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sad thing residents and Neighbors in
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Teller County who literally freeze up
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when they stand next to somebody so what
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they do is they break down little circle
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groups so the tension gets even higher
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and then you have to go around Circle
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and say whether you lean blue or red
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doesn't really matter but you know so
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you know you're sit next to and we talk
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and so it's really interesting um they
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briefed us very quickly they briefed us
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the higher level bra range at the
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national level on like Integrity what we
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found out is everybody's concerned about
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elections just from different sides and
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the three principles they gave us is one
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voting should be easy but cheating
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should be hard most people AG on that
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every citizen should have an equal say
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in who will govern them and that's done
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through free and fair elections and the
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American government will fail if
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candidates refuse to accept the outcome
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of the victory so you know we're a
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nation of fans when two football teams
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come together referee calls it walk away
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we need to understand how that works and
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hats off
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reporter who was there a lot of Courage
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um it was really neat to see um as she
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reminded folks there who were agitated
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on both sides I look I swore not to the
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constitution in Colorado state that her
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statute she has to follow she shares
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some of her personal opinions which is
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appreciated so I think Eric and I Eric
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and I texted that evening a little
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depressing to see how dug in some people
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are but I think at least now people can
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go home to their families and say hey I
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sat next to a republican I sat next to a
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Democrat well I heard one thing that
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they said that I can get along with and
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so they don't attempt to change your
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mind they just attempt to open your mind
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so hats off to Holly they very for doing
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that they need every month in the
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library for different issues and can is
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important and again I'll just with
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regards to election Integrity I have
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full faith and confidence in stepan all
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Commissioners and everything we can
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she'll probably talk a little bit about
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it mov on the crime you know we we had a
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joint statement that went out on crime
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uh Jason and the three Commission and
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there's a statement there about
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homelessness and I just want to clarify
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nice thing about those statements is it
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starts a conversation people call they
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what do you mean by there is no one up
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on this Das that doesn't have empathy
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for homeless people they're before the
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grace of God with all of us right couple
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bad decisions a bad divorce your job and
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you're living in the trailer doesn't
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belong you when I was a kid here we
[19:49]
called a mountain you know I just buried
[19:52]
one month and a half ago a mountain man
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that lived up here by himself on many
[19:55]
years so that's not what we're talking
[19:57]
about Eric kind of H into the crime is advocate for old color and so T
[20:02]
county has been targeted for fanol you
[20:05]
guys remember Jason night and I was in
[20:07]
conversation with Jason last he
[20:09]
authorized me to say a few things on his
[20:10]
behalf in terms of crime um we're in
[20:12]
charge of life he safety he got Public
[20:15]
Safety so we work together but we're
[20:17]
being taken advantage of and what I mean
[20:19]
by that is what do you do as a county
[20:21]
commissioner when you get a call someone
[20:23]
says hey there's somebody living on my
[20:25]
land in somebody else's trailer by the
[20:27]
way they're pooping on on the ground and
[20:29]
my well is right here or by the way
[20:31]
there are children there that should be
[20:32]
in school or by the way they shot at me
[20:35]
you know all those things are happening
[20:36]
so fentanyl crime felons our jails are
[20:39]
not empty but they're half empty because
[20:41]
they're all the mountains and so again I
[20:43]
just want to clarify we're not targeting
[20:45]
homeless people but there are really bad
[20:47]
people hiding among the homeless people
[20:49]
um all three of us sit on boards from
[20:51]
senior coalition to ask the Mind Center
[20:53]
to partnership that care about folks and
[20:56]
the term that we use now is giving them
[20:57]
a hand up not hand hand out so all that
[20:59]
empathy and compassion is there um but
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you elected us to take care of safety
[21:04]
and we're telling you there's some ises
[21:06]
up here getting after so uh Jason will
[21:08]
have a statement probably later this
[21:10]
week to clarify that um it's really to
[21:12]
take care of all residents um last thing
[21:15]
I'll say is uh Eric did a really good
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job with it you know mushrooms is
[21:19]
another example I don't think any of us
[21:21]
are up here saying you can't enjoy
[21:23]
marijuana you can't have Jack Daniels
[21:25]
you can't do whatever you're legal all
[21:27]
to do we're telling you things are
[21:28]
happening that are taking control and so
[21:32]
you come to this town and buy marijuana
[21:34]
legally and don't spend the night and
[21:37]
get free alcohol and right now there's
[21:38]
some overing going on we're looking at F
[21:40]
and you get in your car and you cross
[21:42]
over into unincorporated T County you're
[21:44]
going to engang your kids on school
[21:46]
buses you know on older people and and
[21:48]
that's what we're looking at that's we
[21:50]
going after there are a lot of people
[21:51]
that come up here that are in their mid
[21:53]
70s for the first time they're not used
[21:55]
to the altitude they have two or three
[21:57]
resisting conditions on oxygen they
[21:59]
drinking too much and then they pop a
[22:00]
goo me and wonder why it didn't kick in
[22:02]
so they pop a second one you ever try
[22:04]
that you know it takes a few hours and
[22:06]
then they get in the road and they drive
[22:08]
through it and so that's what Jason's
[22:09]
seeing and so we're not heavy-handed no
[22:12]
we owe it to you to be careful out there
[22:14]
and there's a lot of leaf Lookers up
[22:15]
here right now as you know and you don't
[22:17]
having fun so um I think I'll end it
[22:19]
with that but just a great time to be
[22:21]
here and I do uh ask you guys to keep
[22:23]
forward in your prayers that's a pretty
[22:24]
big storm it's five almost 500 miles
[22:27]
across it's the entire State of Florida
[22:29]
so ask yourself how prepared Denver
[22:31]
would be if they lost electricity got
[22:33]
five feet of snow to help out so it's
[22:36]
going to be interesting to watch and
[22:37]
we'll see do but keep PR with that M
[22:40]
church thank you commissioner just one
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additional I like to thr out there with
[22:45]
the braver angels seminars that I've
[22:47]
gone to it's about getting people in the
[22:50]
room that don't necessarily have
[22:52]
Bas beliefs and philosophies that they
[22:55]
live by it's about in them in the room
[22:58]
and having conversations that can be
[23:00]
civil that's what braver Angel likes to
[23:02]
do they like to explore topics and have
[23:04]
conversations where you can get adults
[23:06]
in the room and mix and match and it
[23:09]
doesn't matter what side you're on of
[23:11]
what subject or what the topic is for
[23:14]
the week but to have conversations with
[23:16]
other people and have it in a civil
[23:17]
manner I think there few of those where
[23:20]
you know it's amazing if you create the
[23:23]
right environment you can have good
[23:25]
constructive decisions and sometimes
[23:28]
some results come out of their where you
[23:30]
can do something in the community but
[23:32]
it's about fostering Communications and
[23:34]
not getting outrageous and not getting
[23:37]
animosity built up but have a
[23:40]
conversation with your neighbor who may
[23:41]
not believe in everything you believe in
[23:43]
and it's not always political sometimes
[23:46]
it's just philosophies of life sometimes
[23:49]
deals with religion and policies in the
[23:51]
state it's not an R&D discussion
[23:54]
typically it's about getting people
[23:56]
together from different sides and having
[23:57]
good constru start through conversations
[24:00]
and fostering in a simple manner so I
[24:02]
appreciate you guys showing up for me
[24:04]
when I wasn't in town but thank you so
[24:06]
much on that one um been spending some
[24:09]
time quite a bit with pipek Workforce as
[24:11]
a board that I sit on I lead right now
[24:14]
but um trying to help Tracy through this
[24:18]
U she's got another audit at the Pik
[24:20]
speak Workforce Center it's another
[24:22]
division of some State Administration
[24:25]
that are calling it a monitoring review
[24:30]
um it it really comes down to
[24:34]
terminology this is their third a
[24:36]
they've had in the last 15 months and
[24:39]
they've been constant from CD CD at the
[24:43]
federal level the cdle at the labor
[24:45]
department of the state she has just got
[24:47]
a Target on her back right now but the
[24:50]
good thing is this one's coming out
[24:51]
pretty good um but three audits in one
[24:54]
year from different agencies seems like
[24:57]
a little bit of heavy this and in this
[24:59]
one they're not finding anything but
[25:01]
that's that's say okay but I've been
[25:03]
spend a lot of time helping with her as
[25:05]
an ex auditor it's nice to have some
[25:07]
eyes go down there and say that's not
[25:09]
what auditing should look like that's
[25:11]
not what review should look like um so I
[25:15]
a lot as you mentioned I spent some
[25:17]
family time did some camping in the
[25:19]
other parts of the the country this week
[25:22]
over towards independent past and spend
[25:24]
a few days out there without cell phone
[25:25]
coverage and just checking out you know
[25:28]
because it's nice not to answer that
[25:30]
phone every five minutes or so and then
[25:33]
I've also got a buddy in town that I was
[25:35]
in high school band we've been friends
[25:37]
for 50 years so he lived in Phoenix most
[25:39]
his life he recently moved to Georgia
[25:42]
but he's in town doing some caretaking
[25:43]
so I've been spend some time with him
[25:45]
it's nice to have friends that you grew
[25:47]
up with 50 years ago so that's been
[25:50]
keeping me busy quite a bit and I think
[25:53]
at that I'll leave it
[25:55]
short and we'll move on to the elected
[25:59]
official I think
[26:03]
you're
[26:06]
Stephanie good morning
[26:09]
everyone so I traveled to the big city
[26:12]
of linman a couple weeks ago we had
[26:14]
conference there and it was very nice um
[26:16]
it's nice I this is my second time is
[26:19]
going as treasure and public trusty and
[26:21]
I'm starting to fit in and you know fill
[26:24]
in the shoes and stuff so I really enjoy
[26:25]
it and it's nice to go to smaller ones
[26:29]
will be going to uh lovelin in October
[26:32]
it's more of everybody around the state
[26:34]
but I do like the the smaller ones with
[26:35]
the rounder tables because conversation
[26:37]
is always really nice you learn so much
[26:40]
um I do have um we've been getting ready
[26:44]
for the um taxan sale that will be going
[26:46]
on November 1st through the
[26:48]
4 and um we do have a little bit more
[26:51]
this year last year we had 578 Parcels
[26:54]
this year we have
[26:56]
644 so we do have um a little bit more
[26:59]
we are 98% Collective though so that's
[27:02]
good um we will be submitted that to the
[27:06]
paper uh next week already so that's
[27:10]
crazy um and then um I'll be back next
[27:14]
month for a full report for my third
[27:16]
quarter report for you I'll be out next
[27:19]
week I have a personal thing going on so
[27:22]
looking forward to my son getting
[27:24]
married and um I think that's all I have
[27:27]
most you guys
[27:31]
your
[27:32]
discussions legislation we should be
[27:34]
watching for new ideas coming in public
[27:37]
trust you know the only thing that we're
[27:39]
still um working on is that treasurer's
[27:42]
deed you know we're still working
[27:43]
through that a lot of the counties you
[27:45]
know because of big and small we're
[27:47]
trying to work together um with how
[27:49]
we're handling that the um vendors are
[27:53]
still which is very odd to me they're
[27:55]
not they're not prepared for that so
[27:57]
we're not being
[27:58]
we're doing it until our County by hand
[28:01]
on those Treasures Deeds so we are still
[28:03]
selling those um there's a lot of
[28:04]
counties that are not they're not taking
[28:06]
any of those so that's um and they're
[28:09]
going to revamp that legislation and
[28:12]
then also when we went into special
[28:14]
session um which got shot down right you
[28:17]
know I talked to Senator basley about
[28:19]
you know the 12mon payment and things so
[28:22]
hopefully that second session really
[28:25]
calmed them down so let's hope that we
[28:27]
don't have to worry about that but we'll
[28:29]
we never know what might happen thank
[28:31]
you but I appreciate you being there for
[28:33]
congratulations on wedding too thank you
[28:34]
very much and the one good thing about
[28:37]
the line conference it's originally
[28:39]
designed as an Eastern counties but it's
[28:41]
25 or 30 small counties that get
[28:43]
together get a round T you get good good
[28:47]
discussion great learning experience out
[28:49]
there absolutely Metropolis yes thank
[28:54]
you
[28:55]
all Miss clerk Stephanie
[28:59]
there's not a lot going on in my
[29:02]
world um so we sent out we will be
[29:06]
mailed out October 11 we have a total of
[29:10]
almost I say 19,100 balls that will be
[29:14]
available to vote so we appreciate
[29:16]
everybody voting your ballot ballot Box
[29:19]
is open on October the 11th same time
[29:22]
that b are put now I we're not required
[29:26]
to have them open that o
[29:28]
I did one year open them on the day that
[29:32]
was required and I had a lot of people
[29:34]
because they want to drop about same
[29:36]
thing they got them so I was very
[29:38]
excited about that so those will open on
[29:40]
the 11 I want to appreciate the
[29:42]
invitation that I received um from
[29:45]
greater angels I had never to a meeting
[29:48]
like that before I was very impressed
[29:50]
how they um conduct their election and
[29:53]
they keep it on track and they keep it
[29:55]
on TR started when they said was ended
[29:59]
when it said going to and for the most
[30:02]
part it was really educational it's kind
[30:04]
of fun to relax and be in there have
[30:08]
group discussion so I appreciate that um
[30:11]
vote centers open October 21st like can
[30:14]
jumping around all over the place it's
[30:16]
election time so I'm along the
[30:18]
scatter so I'm just gonna end it right
[30:20]
there unless anybody has any
[30:22]
question we've seen the cou social media
[30:25]
questions
[30:28]
not
[30:30]
the what's the policy
[30:34]
procedure you want to become a cool
[30:37]
Watcher you have to be um endorsed so to
[30:42]
speak by either a candidate a balid
[30:45]
question or issue and or a
[30:49]
um a major party so they have to be in
[30:53]
contact with one of those they have to
[30:55]
complete the application they have to
[30:57]
complete hes they have to come to the
[31:00]
clerk's office to be credential and then
[31:03]
they are able to visit the v sers in
[31:07]
election Central to observe is there
[31:09]
some kind of or something that separates
[31:13]
them from some that
[31:15]
just so we we make them more
[31:20]
part so they will have distinguishable
[31:23]
um name badges and there are some that
[31:26]
can only um interact with the Le judge
[31:29]
that is out at the vote Center or the
[31:31]
designated person at election Central so
[31:34]
they are strictly there to
[31:37]
watch than
[31:40]
thank I think that's it for elected
[31:43]
officials so move off to kind minist Mr
[31:48]
Herzog thank you sir I've been busy last
[31:50]
couple days attending uh the
[31:54]
international County and city managers
[31:57]
association
[31:58]
meeting my takeway is our problems are
[32:01]
not unique to the rest of the country uh
[32:04]
but you know housing Staffing Capital
[32:06]
Improvement uh there was a big this year
[32:09]
a a big push on just some of the
[32:13]
technological advances that have come
[32:15]
through that are starting to see you're
[32:17]
starting to see in the you saw in the
[32:19]
private sector earlier but just the use
[32:21]
of AI and what policies and stuff
[32:23]
incorporate that and how you can utilize
[32:26]
some efficiencies
[32:28]
um but overall great conference U good
[32:31]
to have your roex to have those people
[32:33]
available phone calls when you're trying
[32:34]
to solve problems and U going through uh
[32:38]
this morning I know one of the biggest
[32:40]
questions was when is going to be our
[32:44]
fall Fage peak
[32:47]
time I think on the international model
[32:50]
it's going to be H Saturday at
[32:52]
[Music]
[32:53]
12:30 other than that just remind people
[32:56]
a lot of people are around the County
[32:58]
right now that don't live around here
[33:00]
how they don't know that their vehicle
[33:02]
is obstructing the road around the
[33:03]
corner when you come around so watch for
[33:06]
them and just give yourself through X
[33:08]
minut and being never
[33:10]
right I'll leave it at that yeah I was
[33:13]
going to say that you know Victor has
[33:14]
the art show here so they have painters
[33:16]
out there painting at all kinds of
[33:18]
places we love seeing in this's art
[33:21]
month like people come to me um do you
[33:24]
mind sharing what you sh with me I
[33:26]
called Ross on an issue yesterday said
[33:28]
hey how was the conference you know
[33:29]
because we all do these things and you
[33:31]
know it's to be value added you want to
[33:33]
bring something back to T can you might
[33:34]
talk about how collegial you think we
[33:36]
are compared to some of the inight that
[33:38]
you saw that a comant oh yeah it's it is
[33:41]
I will say there's some divisiveness in
[33:43]
the country right
[33:44]
now very honored to be working here in t
[33:49]
County reasonable approach and being
[33:52]
able to listen to all sides and just
[33:55]
that philosophy of once you get to the
[33:58]
table you're bringing every everybody's
[34:01]
opinion to that table to look at so we
[34:03]
appreciate working with everyone thank
[34:06]
you thank you sir I noticed yesterday
[34:10]
heading back on
[34:12]
67 was like 3 o' in the afternoon must
[34:15]
been 100 cars 67 and went around the
[34:18]
corner right where the rock bit is and
[34:20]
there was literally a car stopped in the
[34:22]
middle of the road you getting out of
[34:24]
the car and that has to be a point where
[34:27]
there's like 100 fet on both sides of
[34:29]
the road but they stop the car right
[34:31]
midd the road so when you're out there
[34:33]
driving please be careful watch for
[34:35]
those Leaf peers because some of those
[34:37]
cars have kids in them too and animals
[34:39]
and got be really careful on the roads
[34:42]
next couple weeks during the Le season
[34:44]
so thank
[34:46]
you department heads I don't know if we
[34:49]
have any additional directors or
[34:51]
department heads of the room see so now
[34:54]
we'll move on for time reserve for
[34:57]
public don't have appointments on the
[35:00]
agenda today people like to address this
[35:04]
you like to come up to
[35:09]
the welcome Holly sing your Praises in
[35:12]
the first part of the
[35:13]
meeting
[35:18]
sorry well um good morning and as you
[35:21]
know I'm H sample um I want to thank
[35:23]
Commissioners Williams and stone for
[35:26]
coming to our bre r meeting in for
[35:28]
Stephanie as well um the other night
[35:33]
um and uh I appreciate the opportunity
[35:37]
to speak to you today I brought my notes
[35:38]
just so I don't get all mixed up but um
[35:42]
I don't know if you know I live right
[35:44]
outside of CRI crean Highland Meadows
[35:46]
and so I consider this my community um
[35:50]
and I'm here to talk about the recent
[35:52]
news release regarding inter agency
[35:55]
cooperation to address crime and
[35:56]
homelessness
[35:58]
in Teller County in the city of per cre
[36:01]
and I'm encouraged by the
[36:05]
um the mention in that letter of
[36:09]
forthcoming shortterm and
[36:11]
long-term um efforts and policies to
[36:14]
address those
[36:15]
Solutions uh or those problems but um I
[36:18]
know that I and other members of the
[36:20]
community will be looking forward to
[36:23]
more specific information about those
[36:25]
Solutions and um more data about the
[36:29]
crime and homelessness and how they
[36:32]
interact um in the meantime I'm
[36:34]
concerned about statements that seem to
[36:37]
conflate crime and homelessness these
[36:40]
are both serious problems that I would
[36:41]
like to see more data about specific
[36:44]
times before attributing them all to the
[36:47]
homeless population and indeed as the
[36:50]
most vulnerable members of our community
[36:53]
I think the homeless are very likely to
[36:55]
also be victims of crime
[36:58]
um Southern terer County we're fortunate
[37:01]
to be growing and we're experiencing
[37:04]
both the benefits and the negative
[37:07]
impacts of that and so this is a great
[37:09]
time to get ahead of the negative
[37:11]
impacts in January um reporter Pat Hill
[37:16]
wrote a story in The Courier um where
[37:20]
she described the detrius around
[37:22]
campsites where people were living on
[37:24]
Mineral and carbonate Hills and the
[37:27]
stuffed animals and toys alongside the
[37:29]
other debris are what caught my
[37:32]
attention and hurt my heart as she said
[37:35]
um this is the Dark Side of C Creek and
[37:39]
in the last six months I've been
[37:41]
volunteering at the gaspen Mind center
[37:44]
community of caring where I've seen the
[37:46]
bright and beautiful
[37:48]
site as you know many individuals and
[37:51]
agencies come together there to see that
[37:53]
our citizens have food and clothing
[37:56]
receive Medical
[37:58]
care um find jobs and so much more and
[38:01]
many of the volunteers there are people
[38:04]
who have benefited from those programs
[38:07]
and are giving back to the community as
[38:10]
commissioner Stone said in that letter
[38:12]
that was released only by working
[38:15]
together as citizens law enforcement and
[38:17]
business can we begin to have a
[38:18]
deterrent on criminal elements in ker
[38:21]
County so I'm here this morning to ask
[38:24]
you to consider taking a wide view of
[38:26]
the problem and engaging more Community
[38:29]
stakeholders business people Property
[38:32]
Owners church members Educators social
[38:35]
service agencies as well as people who
[38:37]
are experiencing
[38:39]
homelessness me all these people and
[38:41]
work together to ensure that we have
[38:45]
prosperous and sustainable Safe
[38:48]
Community
[38:49]
Development so as I mentioned and as you
[38:51]
know I'm part of a local group called
[38:55]
braver angels and we conduct workshops
[38:57]
JS and Community meetings intended to
[39:00]
bring a wide array of people together to
[39:02]
develop skills to talk about important
[39:05]
issues
[39:07]
um with help from the braver Angels
[39:10]
organization we would be glad to help
[39:12]
organize a series of town hall meetings
[39:15]
designed to dig into the data that
[39:18]
further Define the problems of crime and
[39:20]
homelessness in tler County identify
[39:23]
root causes and brainstorm local
[39:26]
Solutions if you already have plans to
[39:29]
bring people together and you don't need
[39:31]
our help please just let me know how I
[39:33]
can
[39:34]
contribute thank
[39:36]
you see you if I could Mr sh again we
[39:40]
really were bragging about you foret so
[39:42]
we'll repeat a few of the things but I
[39:44]
can fill you in um thank you so much for
[39:47]
taking on probably the toughest thing
[39:49]
with election Integrity uh lot of
[39:51]
tension in the room tension uh Eric and
[39:54]
I had some conversations after the
[39:56]
meeting did we change any Minds though
[39:58]
but that wasn't the intent I think
[40:00]
people could go home and say I sat next
[40:01]
to a Republican or Democrat and was
[40:03]
really need to see the come now so thank
[40:05]
you so much um we had law enforcement
[40:08]
there I think that was nice as well P
[40:10]
sure and I think overall there are no
[40:12]
election deniers here today I'll just
[40:15]
tell you that and we had them before and
[40:17]
again I'm not picking on that you but
[40:18]
you've all heard the stories you did a
[40:20]
great job with regards to homelessness
[40:22]
and I'm really glad you're here uh as
[40:25]
here in person so that state stat was
[40:27]
designed to start a conversation it was
[40:29]
designed to answer part of what happened
[40:32]
that we still can't talk about that
[40:34]
horrific Prime that you as you know I
[40:36]
live four milare to Creek is my home too
[40:38]
and I grew up here um there is a lot of
[40:42]
empathy on this board for Hess there
[40:43]
before the grace of God go all of us a
[40:46]
bad divorce bad financial decisions all
[40:48]
up there as I mentioned for you got
[40:50]
Holly when I was a kid we called the
[40:52]
mountain b and a lot of them were
[40:53]
veterans they were I got buried when a
[40:55]
month and a half ago went cou years you
[40:58]
may recall a few years ago we buried a
[41:00]
veteran we found Ben car who Liv in cat
[41:03]
out all over and this is an issue as you
[41:05]
know much bigger than T County it's also
[41:07]
Federal so we work really close and so
[41:10]
there's no attempt in that letter um to
[41:12]
verify the homeless in fact I sit on the
[41:14]
as mind Center board uh Bob sits on
[41:18]
partnership Eric sits on senior
[41:19]
Coalition a lot of love lot of empathy I
[41:21]
have served Thanksgiving dinner here at
[41:23]
to homeless for years even before as a
[41:26]
commissioner so that is
[41:28]
Jason and I talked last night he would
[41:30]
be here today he's up right now working
[41:31]
with senator basley in Denver on some
[41:33]
legislation to tighten up on CRI he
[41:36]
wanted me to remind anybody who would
[41:37]
bring it up um we you have some
[41:39]
nefarious activity and you said it
[41:41]
exactly right there are Wars I'll just
[41:44]
use the Afghan term when I was in combat
[41:46]
that are amongst the homeless that are
[41:48]
taking advantage of the homeless that
[41:50]
are praying on them there are now a day
[41:52]
goes by where we don't get a call about
[41:55]
um un adult rated sewage going into a
[41:58]
stream that then goes down that then is
[42:00]
received by someone's well uh their
[42:03]
Public Safety we we have found felons we
[42:05]
have found methab we have found fentanyl
[42:07]
so none of that's directed at a homeless
[42:10]
person that truly has made some bad
[42:11]
decisions that we can pull out and give
[42:13]
them a hand up it's really designed to
[42:15]
say they're folks Among Us that fighting
[42:18]
push us on and then not to get political
[42:20]
but we do have some laxing of standards
[42:24]
and and Prim statistics and standards in
[42:26]
Colorado we can't keep in jail any the
[42:29]
other Jas want to me to remind folks is
[42:31]
that we have a mental health crisis I
[42:33]
mental health I think as well as you're
[42:35]
aware so we do have some people up here
[42:37]
in R for example Jerry and I come from
[42:41]
you it's no joke it minus 30 you know in
[42:43]
the winter time we have children I miss
[42:45]
my presentation on Costa that's this
[42:47]
coming Wednesday we have an obligation
[42:49]
to State under State statutes to to go
[42:52]
take care kids that we find out there to
[42:54]
and you're right dur knows the property
[42:56]
um we went to ER was with me one day
[42:58]
with code enforcement a couple months
[43:00]
ago and you can see the toys and as soon
[43:02]
as you see that it Chang M you this is
[43:06]
squaller call it whatever we want and
[43:08]
then there's people that don't want help
[43:10]
you know there's that so I welcome a
[43:13]
larger conversation uh and again that
[43:15]
wasn't a standalone it was really
[43:17]
designed to bring folks like you here to
[43:19]
say we got all us look at it but there
[43:21]
was an outcry after that last crime that
[43:23]
did involv some homeless folks we talked
[43:25]
to our Casino operators for example all
[43:27]
three of us and what they do is they
[43:29]
fire me they try to hire them where they
[43:32]
fire them but where do they go and the
[43:34]
truth is we don't have a home Shel TR we
[43:36]
do have faith-based communities we have
[43:38]
great people like you we all try to help
[43:39]
and donate our time but we don't have
[43:42]
capacity and so as winter gets closer as
[43:45]
we start to see fanol increase here
[43:47]
which it has here sits on the opio
[43:49]
account give a wonderful presentation
[43:51]
about how bad that really is what is
[43:53]
leading to we're so close to the springs
[43:57]
that's what we're starting to see so and
[43:59]
we've had bodies dumped up here you know
[44:01]
so I just again apologize to you if it
[44:04]
appeared that we were attacking all
[44:05]
people it wasn't it's an element within
[44:08]
that population that is different than I
[44:11]
was jry first it's not the mountain it's
[44:14]
not the veteran most of the veterans I
[44:16]
know that live like that when we left
[44:18]
alone these are people that are praying
[44:21]
just that's not
[44:24]
push by me Mr thank you very much for
[44:27]
coming today um as mentioned I serve
[44:32]
on
[44:34]
good for um but um you know one of the
[44:39]
big issues that we deal with down there
[44:41]
and lot and there some of our
[44:43]
stakeholders that take partner our
[44:44]
conversations is you know with springs
[44:46]
Rescue Mission and you know those who do
[44:49]
not only work with Hess but also work
[44:52]
with the CH addicted um and I think
[44:55]
that's the big change that we're seeing
[44:57]
talking about and it ties into them it
[45:00]
ties into
[45:01]
thees but it also ties into kids as well
[45:04]
and in our work uh on the board of Human
[45:07]
Services we get you know firsthand
[45:10]
knowledge of our own departments that
[45:13]
that's who's responsible for now having
[45:16]
to go out and figure out you know what
[45:19]
are the conditions that some of these
[45:20]
kids are in and sometimes they go in and
[45:22]
they're like you know what they have you
[45:24]
know ways to Bath they they're fed
[45:27]
getting educated it may not you know
[45:28]
they may not be living overall in
[45:30]
conditions that any of us would choose
[45:31]
and maybe even that they wouldn't choose
[45:33]
if they if they had that power but as
[45:35]
long as you know they're being well
[45:37]
cared for then uh you know that's that's
[45:41]
what I want to see and you know I've
[45:43]
always said that there's nothing
[45:44]
compassionate about seeing people living
[45:48]
in a homeless situation see fames living
[45:49]
in a homeless situation there's nothing
[45:51]
compassionate about helping them
[45:53]
maintain that I want I want more than
[45:56]
that for those people
[45:57]
uh and for some of them uh and
[46:01]
unfortunately we've experienced it uh
[46:04]
you know more recently where we have
[46:05]
seen violence uh and more significant
[46:08]
criminal activity and and it's not
[46:11]
rooted in homelessness but homelessness
[46:13]
is part of it and you're exactly right
[46:15]
in your comment where you said well not
[46:16]
all homeless are you're exactly right
[46:18]
not all homeless are but we cannot
[46:20]
ignore that uh there are people that are
[46:25]
living homeless uh that are simply here
[46:29]
because they're don't want to be seen
[46:31]
somewhere else um it's either because
[46:33]
they're they're living lifestyle they
[46:35]
just don't want anybody else to see them
[46:37]
but you know they've got a WRA sheet
[46:39]
they've got warrants they've got people
[46:40]
looking for them um they need you know
[46:43]
to be responsible for things that they
[46:45]
um you know that they're trying to
[46:47]
escape from and just like you know when
[46:49]
I first moved here was a Texas out you
[46:51]
were probably around in and it exists I
[46:54]
mean it's like they they come here and
[46:57]
like all of us they come here and they
[46:58]
feel safe right um they you know they
[47:00]
get to the mountains oh we're safe here
[47:01]
and we can hide in the forest and you
[47:03]
know and that Shields us and while we
[47:05]
all enjoy that level of peace that we
[47:07]
get from that we can't ignore that you
[47:09]
know there there is a problem which is
[47:12]
increasing homelessness is a part of
[47:14]
that but there's there's nothing
[47:15]
passionate about leaving people where
[47:18]
they are uh and not recognizing that
[47:23]
unfortunately you know elicit drugs
[47:25]
plays a huge role in it and as a
[47:27]
byproduct of elicit drugs you get human
[47:29]
traffic you get U the continued dealing
[47:33]
of drugs which is you know issue around
[47:36]
here because they don't have to deal a
[47:38]
lot of drugs to get enough money to
[47:39]
maintain a lifestyle of living you know
[47:41]
in a trailer they don't own on property
[47:43]
they don't know um so U you know having
[47:47]
those conversations I know that the
[47:49]
sheriff and uh the chief police in in
[47:51]
[ __ ] Creek AV just the other day uh
[47:54]
to talk about some of the things that that you talks about which is
[47:58]
getting the proper stakeholders together
[47:59]
to have these discussions about what is
[48:01]
this going to be we also recognize that
[48:04]
with the coming of fall means that we're
[48:07]
going to have cold nights coming up and
[48:09]
uh winter has a little bit of a
[48:11]
cleansing effect on our homeless
[48:12]
population because it's brutal you know
[48:14]
they come up here at 10,000 fet they
[48:16]
don't realize what that means and it
[48:18]
kind of flushes them out but that's have
[48:20]
a plan for what happens when winter goes
[48:23]
away and I think that's what a lot of
[48:25]
this is about what's that plan do both
[48:27]
from a law enforc also
[48:30]
Community if I could
[48:33]
Point speak for Jason but I did talk to
[48:36]
him ination talk to me um he is working
[48:40]
very closely with the PD here it's a
[48:42]
jurisdictional issue rather than going
[48:44]
after homeless folks out there trying to
[48:46]
sort it out because that's what ends up
[48:48]
happening the Jud might trailer my we
[48:52]
see everything and it's so much
[48:55]
worse tell you um they're coming in CRI
[48:59]
and so what what he's doing along with
[49:01]
PD is looking for over looking for list
[49:05]
sex and looking for all that stuff here
[49:07]
to address the crime whether they live
[49:09]
in a mansion or they live homeless that
[49:11]
may have an effect as well soing out the
[49:13]
Predators from the people truly trying
[49:16]
to stand up on them so just no I I I think it's something we're
[49:23]
very aware of and we understand that
[49:25]
there's distinct different
[49:27]
between some of those demographics
[49:29]
people have just fall on on a hard time
[49:31]
and people it's a way of life and it's
[49:33]
their way of life that promotes
[49:36]
illegalities in a lot of their life but
[49:39]
we have to distinguish the difference
[49:41]
help those that want be helped but not
[49:44]
also promote the idea that living out
[49:46]
there is the best answer in world
[49:48]
because it's not thank you I appreciate
[49:51]
that I and I do realize and and I
[49:54]
appreciate that you see what a compx
[49:57]
problem and
[49:58]
situation and um again if we can help if
[50:02]
I can help please let us thank you thank
[50:06]
you so much and thanks again for last
[50:08]
night or Tuesday all right other citizens that
[50:14]
would like to address the board yes
[50:27]
hi my name is gett Hall I'm here to
[50:30]
thank County Commissioners Bob Campbell
[50:33]
Dan Williams and er stone for coming and
[50:36]
supporting me and my brother at the T
[50:38]
County Livestock F an auction year um
[50:42]
with their help I'm able to donate 100
[50:45]
pound of G beef to the as M Center
[50:49]
tomorrow and thank you guys um I have a
[50:54]
few gift for you
[51:03]
offici
[51:15]
thank with you guys
[51:29]
family makes us cry every time
[51:35]
we
[51:46]
get look at me I'm three one
[51:51]
two good
[51:53]
job good job
[51:56]
proud of you
[52:04]
guys hey these kids go stay up here for
[52:06]
a minute these kids are Grandpa their
[52:08]
mom their dad was in here today uh you
[52:11]
guys make a St every time we see and you
[52:13]
hear a lot about our youth you hear a
[52:14]
lot about people that don't plug in
[52:16]
social media gaming you know whatever
[52:19]
these guys are grounded you're a great
[52:21]
example of gripple Creek and what we're
[52:23]
trying to be in Teller County you're who
[52:25]
we come to work for every day you know our commitment to Fairgrounds
[52:29]
what we're trying to do andal AG members
[52:32]
um it's still a rural County you know we
[52:35]
have a diverse County here with folks
[52:36]
that haven't been to this part of the
[52:38]
county that live at Wood Park that
[52:39]
commute but you're a reminder of why we
[52:42]
try so hard because you're about our
[52:44]
future so we love you guys and mom youi
[52:46]
your dad doing great grandpa's doing
[52:48]
good whatever you did you know keep it
[52:50]
up it's probably in our water
[52:52]
I now obviously I've been involved in
[52:55]
Bri for a lot time because all my kids
[52:57]
did
[52:59]
florage got to be close to 30 years ago
[53:01]
now and most of what they did was the
[53:03]
indoor projects where you guys obviously
[53:05]
do some lifesty projects and some other
[53:07]
things too but I'm a big supporter it
[53:09]
builds young Community it builds youth
[53:12]
that turn into great leaders and great
[53:13]
adults and you guys are off to a great
[53:16]
start and we really appreciate what you
[53:18]
guys do and how you represent the 4
[53:20]
groups how you represent other kids in
[53:22]
the community and farming and
[53:24]
agricultural community so thank you so
[53:26]
much guys I really appreciate
[53:29]
it yeah I guess I'll hold
[53:32]
this but no thank you for this and um
[53:36]
you know but even bigger than that you
[53:37]
know is thank you for thinking of other
[53:39]
people um and donating you know ground
[53:42]
beef to the ASP mind Center you know uh
[53:45]
one of the things that you guys are
[53:46]
already learning which a lot of people
[53:47]
don't learn until later in life is that
[53:50]
you know you work really hard and once
[53:51]
you work hard and you've seen the
[53:53]
benefit of your hard work is It's always
[53:55]
important to turn around and then get
[53:56]
back loow and you guys are doing that
[53:59]
you're starting very young doing it and
[54:01]
I can tell you that uh it's going to pay
[54:03]
off in Spades not directly but uh you
[54:06]
know as you get older you're going to
[54:08]
find that people will begin to look to
[54:10]
you guys for leadership I think they
[54:12]
already are even among your peers so uh
[54:14]
I just I just hope that when you guys
[54:16]
are growing up that you're still here in
[54:18]
County I know a lot of times our own
[54:20]
youth my own my own kids you know are no
[54:22]
longer in Teller County and I'd love to
[54:24]
have them back here but uh uh anyway as
[54:27]
you go out into the world whether it's
[54:28]
here or somewhere else I know both you
[54:30]
going to be great leaders and uh engage
[54:32]
for you I know you're the younger than
[54:34]
too but you remind me of me because I
[54:36]
passed my brother in height about the
[54:37]
same age as you're passing your brother
[54:40]
and you know so and for Garrett for you
[54:43]
is uh you know when you're you're seeing
[54:46]
your brother the good news is you're not
[54:47]
going to have to share clothes with him
[54:48]
for very long he's going to keep growing
[54:50]
that thank you guys and congratulations
[54:52]
on a great year apprciate what time you
[54:54]
go
[54:55]
the 9 a 9 A.M we'll be there at 8 to
[54:58]
start putting bags together and then
[55:00]
they'll start handing out at 9: and I've
[55:02]
got your picture with your animal ra
[55:05]
you put headquarters
[55:08]
here awesome thank you again for coming
[55:30]
again thank you so much for being here I
[55:32]
appreciate taking the time to come do
[55:34]
this this morning it's a great
[55:37]
presentation Jerry
[55:46]
you hard for you to follow
[55:51]
that I only have a few things one thing
[55:53]
I wanted to say you're talking about
[55:56]
live 67 so much as I love leaves I hate
[55:59]
this time of year um I don't know if
[56:02]
it's possible one idea I had that might
[56:05]
help at least with some of them so
[56:07]
County have any those flash ROP sign put
[56:09]
up7 enjoy the leaves don't stop in the
[56:13]
road
[56:14]
don't because I have also like you come
[56:17]
around corner most just scream people
[56:19]
stop Road take
[56:22]
picture we see big signs J yeah I don't
[56:26]
know if you get SE to do but I think
[56:29]
that would help at least in some
[56:34]
measure okay thanks and then two on my
[56:38]
last visit of course I irritated all you
[56:40]
guys and some of that some of that was a
[56:42]
little bit intentional um because I just
[56:45]
wanted you to see it through somebody
[56:46]
else's eyes you're coming in there you
[56:49]
know I know what you're doing you're
[56:51]
finding that's good some them are just
[56:54]
working people and have problems it's
[56:56]
just this is who they are and this is
[56:58]
how they are and they get very irritated
[57:00]
about that so my father used to have a
[57:03]
saying I didn't understand I was younger
[57:04]
but as I got older understood that
[57:06]
there's right wrong and legal and I
[57:09]
would just ask you to bear in mind when
[57:10]
you do your stuff just because you do
[57:12]
something that's legal doesn't make it
[57:15]
necessarily right doesn't necessarily
[57:17]
make them wrong and like said your job
[57:20]
is hard I don't discount that in any
[57:22]
shape form or fashion but like I told
[57:24]
you I would keep coming in telling you
[57:26]
this to remind you that um CU I talked
[57:29]
to a lot of people talked to a guy who
[57:30]
lived here for years and told something
[57:32]
was going on and his first comment said
[57:34]
well ioved out here to be left alone
[57:36]
well isn't the same place it used to be
[57:38]
but yeah I understand that and so I'm
[57:41]
going to keep coming and reminding you
[57:43]
that you know you know all the good
[57:45]
stuff you do there's still people are
[57:46]
not going to be happy with you I don't
[57:49]
really have a
[57:50]
complaint um other you
[57:53]
know I I don't like exess government but
[57:56]
like I said I moved here there was one
[57:57]
Sheriff that that was 4 years ago I can
[58:00]
drive from C Creek to day car and those
[58:03]
changes come with it and you have to
[58:05]
roll those but but that's just the
[58:07]
biggest thing just remember you know
[58:09]
some people that you think you're
[58:11]
helping you're just making their light
[58:13]
harder that's that's all I ask you and
[58:16]
I'll be back two weeks to tell you this
[58:18]
again good yeah if you can do the sign
[58:21]
thing I think that I think we've got it
[58:23]
working I almost B on a couple signs of
[58:25]
go just put out by slow
[58:34]
so any other public that doesn't have
[58:36]
items on the
[58:43]
agenda WEA move on to our Administration
[58:47]
consider resolution to amend 2024
[58:52]
Department fund budgets Administration
[58:54]
Mr
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thank you on resolution 32
[59:09]
corre before you is resolution number
[59:12]
09-
[59:14]
26-22
[59:17]
24 32 and this is a resolution to amend
[59:21]
the 2024 General Road and Bridge and
[59:24]
jail Enterprise fund budget
[59:27]
whereas in the past the county has
[59:29]
recognized significant savings from
[59:31]
employment turnover that the board of
[59:33]
County Commissioners could consider for
[59:35]
use in other areas and whereas the board
[59:37]
of County Commissioners has directed
[59:39]
staff to make a monthly budget
[59:42]
adjustment by
[59:43]
transferring Personnel related funds
[59:46]
from Individual departments to holding
[59:49]
departments within each fund as
[59:51]
Personnel budget needs are reduced and
[59:54]
from holding departments to individual
[59:55]
departments as Personnel budget needs
[59:57]
increased within the county policy and
[59:59]
whereas funds budgeted in the above
[1:00:02]
reference holding departments which have
[1:00:04]
been added to each fund as Personnel
[1:00:08]
contingency
[1:00:09]
departments ending in the numbers
[1:00:12]
2190 are not
[1:00:14]
appropriated nor available for
[1:00:16]
expenditure and are only accessible AR R
[1:00:18]
by resolution of the board of County
[1:00:20]
Commissioners transferring them to other
[1:00:23]
departmental budget accounts and whereas
[1:00:25]
the board County Commissioners hereby
[1:00:27]
finds determines and
[1:00:29]
declares that adoption of this
[1:00:31]
resolution is necessary for the
[1:00:33]
preservation and protection of the
[1:00:35]
public health safety and
[1:00:37]
Welfare of the inhabitants of terer
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County Colorado so again this is the
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resolution to amend the 2024 General
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Road and Bridge and jail Enterprise fund
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budgets so now therefore be it hereby
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resolved by the board of County
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commissioners of Teller County Colorado
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that the departmental budgets and
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personnel conen Department accounts be
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decreased as follows I'll summarize by
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fund so the general fund is
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9,534 Rod and Bridge
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fund is $
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6,582 jail Enterprise fund is
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$13,516
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and that the departmental budgets and
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Personnel contingency Department
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accounts be increased as follows and
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again all summarized by fund the general
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fund
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$290,500
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582 jail Enterprise fund
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$3,522 and that the amounts appropriated
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for expenditure be re be reduced and
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increased
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accordingly adopted at the regular
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meeting of the board of County
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commissioners of T County Colorado this
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26th day of September
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2024 thank you sir any questions for
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Mr no questions only thing I'd like to
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not is the trend goes out through the
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year these numbers are much
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smaller obvious see this rat to
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Personnel dollars and we've got a few of
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these departments that Holy staff are
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getting close to it
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so that I'll open this resolution up for
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public comment is there any public
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comment on this budget
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resolution all right hearing none what's
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your choice Gentleman on this resolution
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yeah M chairman I would move to approve
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resolution number 0926 224 number 32 a
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resolution to amend the 2024 General
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Road and Bridge and jail Enterprise fund
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budgets and have it attached to the
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written minutes to show the details of
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the budget adjustments second the motion
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Mr chair thank you gentlemen
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other discussion roll call please Mr St
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yes yes Mr Campbell
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yes
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yeah right we going to consider a
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proclamation recognizing October 2024
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as art in
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County Mr St you yeah thank you Mr chair
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this is something uh you know that get
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copper out to us every year to raise
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attention towards the Arts uh in tell
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and Al Paso counties and as many of you
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know I'm involved my family been
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involved for many years and a lot of
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different music activities whether it
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was my children and the Colorado Springs
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children uh col's children's Corral or
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myself now with my activities now that
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I'm not living vicariously through my
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children um I've gotten back into the
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Arts again and uh and actually wanted to
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raise attention to on October 5th
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there'll be a concert in Colorado
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Springs called bachfest being put on by
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a new uh local chamber group called
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Coral song that was started by me Daniel
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Price who's the now is hired head of
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music for the United States Air Force he
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started a chamber group and he will be
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hosting uh and directing conducting a
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boach Fest on October 5th uh which I
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believe is Sunday and Cado strings at St
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Stevens's Episcopal church if you're a
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lover of Bach you're going to love this
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full Orchestra as well as chamber local
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group and group of uh soloists from
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literally across the country are coming
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in uh to do about 10 12 different Bo
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pieces including box magnificant um the
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rest of them are German I won't even
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attempt their name but you know if
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you're a lover of Bo Le cical music will
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be great to go to but with that I'll go
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ahead and read the
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resolution back on so I can do that
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um Proclamation recognizing October 2024
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as Arts month in Teller County whereas
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the month of October has been recognized
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as National Arts and Humanities month by
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thousands of Arts and Cultural
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organizations communities and States
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across the us as well as the White House
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and Congress nearly 30 years and for 11
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years here in the Pikes PE region
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whereas the Arts and Humanities enhance
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and enrich the lives of every American
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including those of us living in and
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visiting the Pik PE region and whereas
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the Arts positively support mental
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well-being Community cohesion education
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healing economic Vitality tourism and
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our quality of life whereas the Arts
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culture for-profit and nonprofit sectors
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represent an over1 trillion American
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industry 4.4 4% of our national GDP 16.9
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billion of which is in Colorado that
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supports 4.85 million American jobs and
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10
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2,383 jobs in Colorado whereas the Arts
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are a proven Civic engagement tool and
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can bring people together across
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different in challenging times whereas
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cultural heritage creativity and
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Innovation are an intrinsic part of the
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history of Teller County and our shared
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future now therefore the Teller County
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Board County Commissioners here ride
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proclaims October 2024 as Arts month in
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Teller County Colorado and urges all s
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citizens to recognize this money as Arts
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money thank you sir
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addition I had an opportunity say Angela
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seals could still walk in and thiser
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project is the region Cultural Arts
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community and uh they actually interview
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which is kind of neat so I was hoping
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they were going to be here so you could
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find them social media but keeping in
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things with braver angels Eric and Bob
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and I talk to me about the division has
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to stop this country one of questions
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they only ask you questions what art me
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that kind of thing um and way I answer
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that just you know art is unique and
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personal it's the environment around you
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get music get object that you're
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creating it's your interpretation and
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what's cool about it the second question
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was how does that Comm
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[Music]
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best we something like that helps us
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understand how someone else looks in the
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world it helps us empathize helps us
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realize that it's not just about us
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we're not the S of the univers we're all
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part of the same thing so it really
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wonderful so she's got a series of
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videos out there if you want to see
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Liam's work through that you didn't see
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it but uh they were very impressed that
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Ral counties appreciate art she actually
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told me that I said no we do that's why
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everybody stand on side with one of
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these right now because we're surrounded
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by Art colies and this Nature's art the
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best canas you'll see on plan so thank
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you for we definitely support the Arts
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again VI have art show to long
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[Music]
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for yeah obviously my family has been
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involved in Arts and Music and once upon
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a time I was quite involved in some jazz
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things and I wasn't necessarily employed
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once in my life when I was like 24 years
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old I had a pain gig one one paying gig
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got to record a music show for the TV
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pilot that didn't get picked up actually
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got paid to be there one time so with
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that I'd be happy to make a motion to
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accept the proclamation recognizing
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October 2024 apartment in County second
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motion right send discussion rooll call
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please Mr St yes Mr yes Mr K yes thank
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you gentlemen for important part of our
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life in everyday
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occurrences I think we
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have
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one one to
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late thank you sir so before you there
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are a couple items the first one is
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consider approval of the commercial real
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estate agreement with [ __ ] Creek
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Victor School District re1 this is a
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renewal uh it is backdating from July
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1st
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2024 um through June 30th
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2025 and this is the space that the T
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County Public Health and environment
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occupies as the tenant it has a monthly
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um 3on amount of $300 and each party
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could terminate with 30 days notice if
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desired but it works well gets us over
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in to the school system for our health
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department question
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no
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sir this agreement sure move that we
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approve the commercial
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estate Victor School District or1 as
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presented second thank you gentlemen
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call please Mr St yes Mr William yes Mr
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yes second item so this was an
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additional initiative matter that was
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received after the agenda deadline uh it
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is from the state of Colorado Department
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Public Health and environment it's an
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amendment
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contract uh it's amendment number two to
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the contract you actually saw this item
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during our last hearing uh that was the
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amendment one uh which changed the dates
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this is also changing uh the termination
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dates um to 10524 so it's just
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recognizing the later date however there
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was also um some other changes
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internally with how the ation of the
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funding was distributed between various
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parts for the health or between the
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nurses and director in spending um the
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bottom line is that there is no indirect
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change to the dollar amounts the
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original contract was $ 53,486
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3,47 they just went through and wanted
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to get the best use of how that funding
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was being spent between the line almost
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like a rebalance so and the budget last
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two pages that were added for specifics
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for expenses but other than that no
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concerns this
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matter any questions gentl
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sir trace on contract Amendment two yeah
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Mr chairman I would move to approve
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contract amendment number two between t
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County state of Colorado Department of
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Public Health and environment um I guess
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I should say between no I say Oran
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that's
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um as present second motion thank you
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gentlemen roll call please Mr yes
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Mr
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yes that's all I have in front of me
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anything else matter sir great thank you
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gentlemen if there's nothing else to be
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in front of this board I have 10:33 we
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shall adjourn today County meetings