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Oh, okay. It hasn't come through yet. I
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just got it.
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Yes.
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» Good morning. Welcome to the Tuesday,
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August 19th, 2025 Tarant County
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Commissioner Court meeting.
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» It's okay. I now call the meeting to
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order.
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» Tim County,
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» Present.
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» Miles, Junior, Commissioner
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» Here. Alisa, Mr. Precinct 2
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» Here.
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» Matt Crouch, Mr. Precinct 3
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» Here.
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» Ramirez, Mr. Pre here.
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» All right. Today's invocation will be
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led once again by Tarant County
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Sheriff's Office Chaplain Frank Litkkey.
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Please rise for the invocation and the
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pledges to our flags.
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» Shall we pray?
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Father, we're thankful for this time
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that we have. I'm thankful Lord that we
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live in a county that recognizes you in
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a time like this. Pray, seek your help,
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seek your wisdom, and we seek values. I
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pray for the judge and the commissioners
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that you would give wisdom with the many
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decisions that they are that they take
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during the course not only of this
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meeting but of course of their day. We
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pray Lord for our leaders, our sheriff,
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his staff, as well as those that are
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working with the uh folks inmates that
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are incarcerated as well as the the
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officers on the street. We pray for
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them. We thank you for this day. We ask
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that you would continue to bless our
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nation, one nation under God. And I ask
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these things in Jesus name. Amen.
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» Amen.
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» Amen.
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» All right. Please join me in the pledge
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of allegiance to our flag. I pledge
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algiance to the flag of the United
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States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands. One nation under
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God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» And now the Texas flag.
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» Honor the Texas flag. I aliance to thee,
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Texas. One state under God, one and
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indivisible.
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» Thank you. You may be seated.
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[Music]
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Good morning, Judge Commission.
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» Agenda announcements.
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» Oh, sorry, sir. Yes, sir. A couple of
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announcements this morning. Uh, first of
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all, item H1 under the criminal district
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attorney section.
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» Go ahead.
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» Item H1 under the criminal district's
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attorney session. We're going to hold
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that item until after closed.
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Uh item P33 in purchasing that's being
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removed from the agenda completely for
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today.
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And also item T1A
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is also being removed from the agenda
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completely today.
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And court members we have several items
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which have been pulled from consent. So
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this next batch are once again that have
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been pulled from consent. So the first
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one is I4 under elections.
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Also I5 under elections,
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[Applause]
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P35 under purchasing,
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T2A,
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and finally T3G
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and T3H.
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That's it, sir. All right. Thanks, sir.
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All right. Do we have any commissioner's
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court announcements?
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» Yes, judge. I have an announcement. I'd
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like to put out one last reminder and
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call for our 10th annual Healthy Lives
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Matters Alzheimer's Symposium that is
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coming up this Saturday, August 23rd,
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starting at 9:00 a.m. and we'll end up
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around 100 p.m. We'll be providing free
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of charge breakfast and lunch for all
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attendees. It is a great event filled
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with lots of resources for the
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community, lots of access to care and
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support for those who are caregiving for
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loved ones who are dealing with
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Alzheimer's and dementia. And I would
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encourage all those who have loved ones
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or friends of loved ones who are dealing
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with dementia or Alzheimer's to invite
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them to come out. We will be at Taran
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County College Trinity River campus. So,
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you can find out more information or
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register on our website, the county
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website. Just go to precinct 1 and there
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is a link for the Healthy Lives Matter
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Alzheimer's Caregiver Symposium. You can
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call our offices and register as well.
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So, we look forward to seeing all of you
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there this coming Saturday. Again,
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August the 23rd at 9:00 a.m. we will be
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at Taran County College Trinity River
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campus. Thank you.
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» What sir? We don't we don't do point of
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information from the audience. That's
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not going to happen. If you want to find
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a staff member, you can ask a question
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of a staff member. No more interruptions
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of the meeting for what you want asked
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or put out there. The I'm I am I'm not
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going to talk to you again before I have
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you leave. So, please be quiet.
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» All right. Any other commissioners
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announcements?
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» Yes.
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So, I wanted uh today to take this
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opportunity to recognize Texas State
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Representative Nicole Collier, who's uh
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who represents District 95, where each
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of you is sitting today. Um, I want to
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say thank you to Representative Collier
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for her principled
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stand in defense of legislative dignity
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and democratic representation.
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Um, Representative Collier spent the
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night last night on the on the floor of
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the Texas House after refusing a
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Republican
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demand to be placed under the watch of
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the state department of public safety.
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And when House Democrats returned to
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Austin after their quorum break uh over
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redistricting, the House Speaker
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announced that Democrats could only
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leave the House floor
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if they uh had received written
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permission
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and agreed to be under law enforcement
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escort.
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her refusal
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uh to do that is notable.
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Um
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while the others signed the permission
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slip, Representative Collier said, "No
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way, not doing it." And she stated this,
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these were her words. I refuse to sign
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away my dignity as a dulyeleed
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representative just so Republicans can
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control my movements and monitor me with
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police escorts. So, her refusal reminds
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me of the courageous acts of resistance
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throughout this country's history
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when people of color and people of
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conscience
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refuse to submit to systems designed to
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strip away their dignity and fundamental
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rights. Just as enslaved people who
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refuse to carry passes that control
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their movement, Representative Collier
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understood that signing such a document
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would be tantamount to accepting
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treatment as something less than a full
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citizen and elected official. And this
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situation
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reflects a broader pattern.
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I've witnessed personally the targeting
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and harassment of black women leaders
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who refuse to be intimidated or
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silenced.
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As an African-American professional in
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this role myself,
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um, I've experienced firsthand the
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disrespect,
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bullying, conspiratorial
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behavior from colleagues on this day and
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county executive staff who cannot accept
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inclusive leadership. Many of my peers
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in leadership positions like this,
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including Nicole and Jasmine,
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Congresswoman Crockett, uh endure
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similar treatment. But this extends
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beyond elected leaders. Um
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this goes to African-American women in
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boardrooms, in middle management, in
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blue collar supervisory positions um
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across our nation. So, Representative
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Collier's stand yesterday, which
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continues today, was a declaration that
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enough is enough.
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And so, rather than submit to being
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treated with surveillance and control,
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reminiscence of our nation's darkest
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chapter, she chose dignity and
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principle.
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And so for that courage and tenacity,
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I'm proud to recognize her strength and
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I'm grateful to her for her leadership.
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And I'll be going to visit her in
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Austin.
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Thank you.
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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Uh any other commissioners
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announcements? I'll make one on uh
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empowering seniors. Uh mark your
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calendars October 2nd. Uh Judge O'Hare's
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office and precinct 3 are working
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together to put that on. It's going to
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be a great event for seniors. Go to
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empoweringceniors.com. You get a lot
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more information on it. If you want to
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be an exhibitor or a sponsor, uh you can
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also do that there. But we'd love to
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have a great turnout on October 2nd uh
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for empowering seniors. And and I will
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just say it's kind of a counter part to
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what Commissioner Simmons just said. I
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was actually in the Texas House in 2021
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when there was another quorum break and
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I was subjugated to be uh held in Austin
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for 30 days not getting to work on
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anything and every day I had to get a
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permission slip to leave the chamber as
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well. So nobody's being targeted,
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nobody's being individualized, nobody's
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being quiet.
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» It's all because they fled the state
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last time and measures have to now be
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put in place to make sure that they will
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stay and do their job.
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» And so just one second.
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» Yeah. If there's another outburst, you
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will be removed immediately. We're not
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going to do that up here today. I'll
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have an announcement in a minute. I'm
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looking straight at you because I've
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seen you do it three times. You'll be
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gone if you do it another time. Okay.
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» So, I want to
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» I'll move her now. Take the lady in
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green out.
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» Good. Goodbye.
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» Goodbye.
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» Thank you for coming.
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So, I want to applaud uh Speaker
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Burroughs and uh House Administration
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Chair Charlie Garren for making sure
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that the people of Texas can continue to
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do the work uh that needs to be done
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during the second special session.
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Drastic measures have to be used because
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uh of the first quorum break. So, I I
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appreciate the House leadership there.
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» Thank you. Uh on another note regarding
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empowering seniors. So this is an event
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that puts seniors together with
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caregivers
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uh people who provide services for
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seniors, help them to be able to get
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their Medicaid right, their Medicare
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right, all sorts of things. It's a great
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event extremely nonpartisan. It is
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something started really by Commissioner
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Gary Ficus
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many moons ago and then uh Judge Whitley
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took it up. We decided, Commissioner Fus
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and I, to combine it because it ended up
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kind of taxing some of the providers and
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they ended up have sponsored twice and
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it took money out of their hands uh
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instead of uh putting it into the hands
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of those who who need the help. So, we
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combined it to have one and uh it's a
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great event for seniors. I encourage
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everyone to send their friends uh who
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are seniors or who may be becoming
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seniors. It's a it's a wonderful uh
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event that puts a lot of people in a lot
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of good spots and gives health care
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checks and all sorts of things that's
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good for our senior community. Uh any
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other announcements from the DIS?
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» I have one. Um I would like to wish our
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colleague Matt Krauss, Commissioner
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Krauss a happy birthday. It's his
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birthday today. So happy birthday
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Commissioner Krauss.
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» Happy birthday Commissioner. Appreciate
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it.
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» Happy birthday.
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» Okay. Um,
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we are now to the proclamations and
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resolutions and presentation section.
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I guess before I get there, let me make
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a couple of announcements because once
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we only got one item on there and then
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we're kind of getting into the to the
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meat of our agenda. Um,
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my goal for today for everyone here is
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for you to get to say your piece in an
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orderly, respectful fashion. So there is
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a set of decorum rules that this court
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passed,
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another set that they operated by for
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many years that uh was passed by a
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majority of this court uh I believe
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about a year ago. When you sign up to
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speak, you promise to abide by those
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rules. So what I hope to see is everyone
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gets up, speaks, follows the rules,
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everybody can do it in an orderly
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fashion. I hope to not have to tell one
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person please lower your voice. I hope
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not to have to tell one person you
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cannot make profane remarks. Uh that is
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my hope but that's going to be up to the
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speakers. So do know I will enforce the
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rules. Uh I'm a believer in decorum. You
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may not be. Some people on this dis may
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not be but I am and I think a majority
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of Americans are. So we're going to
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enforce the rules. And part of those
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rules are once we get past the
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proclamation section, there are no
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outbursts. There is no applause. There
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is no rallying. This is not a political
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rally. This is a business meeting of the
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Tarant County government. So with that,
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we will now go to the proclamations,
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resolutions, and presentation section.
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Uh the first and only item on this
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section is a memorial resolution
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honoring Mr. JW Robinson.
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» Who's presenting this one?
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» I am.
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» Okay. Commissioner Miles,
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» Before I start, I would like to
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acknowledge and recognize
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Mr. Robinson's family. If you would
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stand when I call your name,
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Mrs. Robinson, Mrs. Aquanita Robinson,
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this is the wife and widow of Mr. JW
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Robinson,
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his daughter, Dr. Kiana Roberts
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and his granddaughter Natasha Robinson
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and his son-in-law Albert Roberts.
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We love you. We support you and we are
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here for you. Thank you for coming
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today. You may be seated.
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[Applause]
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Whereas the family and friends of Mr. JW
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Robinson were deeply saddened by his
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death on Sunday, July 27th, 2025.
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And whereas Mr. Robinson was born on
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June 20th, 1947 in Holly Grove, Arkansas
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to Timothy Robinson and Shed Robinson.
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And whereas Mr. Robinson received his
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formal education in the public school
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system in Holly Grove, Arkansas. Drafted
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into the United States Army and deployed
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into the heart of the Vietnam War, where
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he earned the National Defense Service
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Medal, Republic of Vietnam Campaign
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Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Overseas
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Service Bar, and Expert Qualification in
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marksmanship.
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And whereas Mr. Robinson worked in the
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construction industry after returning
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home to Kansas City, Missouri, then
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transitioned to the food service
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industry where he developed a passion
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and love for quality food and personable
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service. And whereas after learning the
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craft of signature Kansas City barbecue
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style, his family moved to Texas to open
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Parks and Parks and Robinson
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Construction.
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This business led to their personal
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construction of the now infamous
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Robinson's Barbecue located at 1028 East
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Berry Street, Fort Worth, Texas. This
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legendary barbecue pit pitmaster took
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Kansas City style barbecue and added his
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very own Texas twist.
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And whereas Mr. Robinson will be forever
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will be forever cherished by his wife
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Aquanita Robinson his children Lelle
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Robinson Hall Dr. Kiana Roberts
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grandchildren Natasha Robinson Kevin
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Dixon Albert Roberts III Carrington
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Roberts and a host of longtime friends
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and extended family. Now therefore be it
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resolved that I, Rodri Miles Jr.,
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Commissioner of Taran County Precinct 1
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and Commissioner Al Alisa Simmons, Taran
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County Commissioner Precinct 2, pay
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tribute to the memory of a beloved and
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honorable man, and extend our deepest
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sympathy to the members of his family
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and his many friends for their great
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loss. In witness whereof, we have here
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unto set our hands and caused the seal
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of Taran County to be affixed this
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seventh day of August, 2025. And on a
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personal note,
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I would like to say Mr. Robinson's
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barbecue spot was a formidable
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part of my upbringing in my childhood.
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As a student at OD Wide High School at
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lunchtime,
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it was not it was not unusual to see a
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host of my classmates and I driving down
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Eastberry to get to Robinson's Barbecue
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to get us a chopped beef sandwich, a bag
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of chips, and a soda for lunch. That was
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my daily meal for lunch. And it was the
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best chopped beef sandwich this side of
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heaven, let me tell you. And every time
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we would go and Mr. Robinson was there,
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he would greet us with the biggest smile
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and say, "Make sure you get enough." And
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so he will be greatly missed. His
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fingerprints and his influence is on the
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majority of the south side of Fort
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Worth, Texas. His legacy will live on
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not only through his family members, but
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those of us who were blessed to be in
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his presence and to be touched by his
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life. I thank God for Mr. Robinson and I
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thank God for his family. If the family
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will come at this time down so that we
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can take a picture with you with the
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memorial resolution.
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Let's all give the Robinson family and
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the legacy of Mr. Robinson a round of
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applause.
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My colleague reminded me I I got a
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little caught up. I move for approval.
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» Second.
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» Second.
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» All right. All right, we have a motion
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and a second to approve. Any discussion?
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» I I'll only say that working uh patrol
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in Fort Worth PD on the east side, um we
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also filled our bellies quite often at
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Robertson's barbecue and it was
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incredible. Still is.
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Uh we have a motion and a second with no
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further discussion.
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Uh all in favor, please raise your hand.
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Okay, passes unanimously. You're in
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favor. Good. I figured you might be. So,
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Welcome.
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Great night.
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Thank you.
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All right. Now we move to our consent
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agenda as amended.
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» Move for approval.
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» Second.
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» Uh we have a motion. Yeah, it takes a
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little longer to get back to this stuff.
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Uh we have a motion to approve the
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consent agenda as amended. And we have a
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second. You got it.
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All right. Any discussion on the amended
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consent agenda?
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All right, seeing none, all those in
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favor of approval, raise your hand. All
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right, passes unanimously.
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Now takes us to the regular
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section,
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starting with 10 A1,
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the administrator section, consideration
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of out of state travel requests.
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» Move approval.
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» Second.
[27:10]
» Second.
[27:11]
» We have a motion and a second to approve
[27:13]
that item.
[27:16]
Uh any discussion there?
[27:20]
All right, seeing none, all in favor,
[27:21]
please raise your hand.
[27:24]
Passes unanimously.
[27:32]
The next item is D1, budget and risk
[27:35]
management.
[27:37]
Do we have um any comments from the
[27:41]
court?
[27:44]
court wish to discuss anything related
[27:46]
to the budget.
[27:47]
» So there are no we have no items that
[27:49]
we're presenting today for the FY26
[27:50]
budget.
[27:51]
» Okay. We have one speaker on the budget
[27:55]
and that is Dr. Harriet Harold
[28:03]
paper.
[28:18]
A budget is a moral document. A budget
[28:22]
is a plan. A budget is the foundation
[28:26]
that lets county government serve its
[28:28]
people. The goal of a budget is not
[28:31]
simply to cut. Last week, we celebrated
[28:34]
a low tax rate. You do know, of course,
[28:37]
that a low rate also means fewer
[28:40]
services. We owe residents honesty about
[28:44]
that tradeoff.
[28:45]
Here's how an effective budget process
[28:48]
should work. Immediately after this
[28:51]
budget passes,
[28:53]
launch a strategic planning process that
[28:56]
includes all elected officials and a
[28:59]
true cross-section of Tarant County,
[29:02]
urban and rural, business and labor,
[29:04]
neighborhoods, nonprofits, faith
[29:05]
communities, young people. Ground that
[29:09]
plan in shared values, a clear vision,
[29:12]
and a mission we all commit to. From
[29:15]
there, build consensus on the county's
[29:18]
top needs and prioritize them. And for
[29:22]
each priority, define solutions with
[29:25]
timelines, cost estimates, and measures
[29:28]
of success. Only then are you ready to
[29:32]
start to build a budget. Without that
[29:35]
framework, departments compete, ideology
[29:38]
fills the gaps, and power plays decide
[29:41]
who gets funded. That is not leadership.
[29:45]
It's roulette. And roulette produces
[29:48]
unintended consequences that hurt real
[29:51]
people.
[29:52]
It is time for Taran County to be
[29:55]
professional. I am not criticizing the
[29:58]
hard work of our budget office. I am
[30:01]
saying they've not been given the
[30:03]
strategic tools to do their best work.
[30:07]
Commissioners, your job is to lead.
[30:11]
Leadership means being strategic. No
[30:15]
more seat of the pants budgeting. Start
[30:18]
a countywide strategic planning process
[30:21]
now. Publish the values, the priorities,
[30:25]
the timelines, and the price tags.
[30:28]
Commit to a rolling three-year
[30:31]
framework. Report progress publicly and
[30:34]
adjust with data, not headlines. If we
[30:38]
want the lowest taxes, say clearly what
[30:41]
services we'll do without. If we want
[30:44]
stronger services, say clearly what we
[30:47]
will invest and why it matters. Either
[30:50]
way, the citizens of Tarant County
[30:52]
deserve clarity, consistency, and a
[30:55]
plan. Budgets without strategy are just
[31:01]
spreadsheets.
[31:03]
Let's do better. Let's lead.
[31:07]
Thank you.
[31:08]
» Uh, any there is no applause here,
[31:11]
folks. Don't don't make me have to deal
[31:13]
with it. Just be respectful. Uh,
[31:17]
anything else from the court members on
[31:19]
the budget.
[31:21]
Okay, moving on to item H1. H1 is held
[31:26]
until after closed, but we do have a
[31:28]
speaker.
[31:30]
So, our speaker is Dr. Brooks McKenzie.
[31:41]
I guess that's not Dr. Brooks McKenzie.
[31:43]
Is Dr. Brooks McKenzie here?
[31:46]
Is there a spillover room?
[31:49]
» I believe only right outside.
[31:51]
» Okay. Can y'all check and see if Dr.
[31:53]
Brooks McKenzie is out there? I'm
[31:55]
assuming they have microphones out
[31:56]
there.
[31:58]
» Is there some kind of speaker system?
[32:00]
» Speakers out there.
[32:01]
» Okay.
[32:01]
» All right. I don't see a Dr. Brooks
[32:04]
McKenzie.
[32:06]
Doesn't appear to be one coming.
[32:09]
So, we will now move to I1
[32:20]
HIJ. We'll move to I1. Elections
[32:23]
Administration consider to approve an
[32:25]
order calling a special election on
[32:27]
November 4th, 2025.
[32:31]
» Move for approval. Second.
[32:32]
» We have a motion and a second to approve
[32:36]
uh this order calling the special
[32:38]
election on November 24th. Any
[32:40]
discussion?
[32:42]
All right. Seeing none, all in favor,
[32:44]
please raise your hand.
[32:46]
All right. Passes unanimously.
[32:51]
Next we move to I2, consideration to
[32:57]
approve an order calling a
[32:58]
constitutional amendment election on
[33:01]
November 4th, 2025.
[33:03]
» Move approval.
[33:04]
» Second. All right. We have a motion, a
[33:05]
second to approve that. Any discussion
[33:08]
there?
[33:10]
All right. All in favor, please raise
[33:11]
your hand.
[33:14]
All right. Passes unanimously.
[33:17]
Now we get to I have it marked as
[33:20]
another I2. I'm assuming we just got it
[33:23]
wrong and it says I3. Whatever it is,
[33:26]
it's consideration to approve proposed
[33:28]
early voting and election day polling
[33:30]
locations for the November 4th, 2025
[33:33]
joint special and constitutional
[33:34]
amendment election.
[33:35]
» I move to reject.
[33:37]
» Second.
[33:38]
» Second.
[33:40]
All right. We have a motion and a second
[33:42]
to reject. Any discussion before we let
[33:45]
Clint present his
[33:49]
views?
[33:51]
All right, seeing none, Clint, go ahead.
[33:53]
» Good morning, commissioners. Judge,
[33:55]
happy birthday, Commissioner.
[33:56]
» Um, the last time we were up here
[33:59]
discussing early voting locations, the
[34:01]
court um told me, "Don't come back with
[34:03]
the same list. Go do your homework. look
[34:06]
at the the locations and bring forth
[34:08]
something um that you can support and
[34:10]
that you've done your some analysis on
[34:12]
and something that will support the the
[34:14]
voters. And so that's what we did. We
[34:16]
went back, we looked, we looked at voter
[34:18]
turnout, um looking at the locations, we
[34:21]
calculated what is it, how how many
[34:24]
voters can we actually process at a
[34:26]
location per hour on average, that's 104
[34:29]
voters per hour per location with an
[34:32]
average wait time of about 10 and a half
[34:33]
minutes. So that's kind of the peak
[34:35]
velocity that we're looking at um with
[34:38]
the max weight time or the average
[34:39]
weight time. So as we were looking and
[34:42]
especially our early voting locations,
[34:44]
we went back and said, "Okay, 2023,
[34:46]
what's our turnout?" That was the
[34:48]
highest turnout oddyear election that
[34:50]
we've had recently compared to 21 a 19
[34:54]
um 23 had it. So I went through added
[34:57]
10% to that number to increase just for
[35:01]
some growth. Um, traditionally we don't
[35:03]
see 10% but went for 10%. And then uh
[35:07]
calculated the velocity. How many
[35:09]
locations would we need on the busiest
[35:10]
day of early voting to process those
[35:13]
voters? And it's 12. 12 v locations
[35:17]
could process the busiest day of early
[35:19]
voting in 23 adding an extra 10%. Um,
[35:23]
and then we went back looked at same
[35:25]
thing for election day. What's it going
[35:27]
to take? Um unfortunately our odd year
[35:30]
elections they just don't get the
[35:32]
turnout. Um early voting we saw it had
[35:36]
10% the turnout that we saw in 2024
[35:38]
during early voting in 23. And overall
[35:42]
for the 23 election even though it was
[35:44]
higher it still didn't even hit 13%
[35:46]
voter turnout. Um, so on election day,
[35:49]
doing the math, looking at it, it would
[35:51]
take approximately 80 locations to
[35:53]
handle the volume of voters that that we
[35:56]
would receive even with the 10%
[35:58]
increase. Clearly, um, we have many,
[36:02]
many more locations like that available
[36:04]
or for available that we could use um,
[36:06]
and had used in the past. So then we
[36:09]
went back and looked and said, okay, if
[36:11]
if 12's what'll handle it,
[36:14]
how do we make cuts? Where do we look?
[36:16]
How do we make sure we get the best
[36:17]
locations we can? So, we started every
[36:19]
every location, it has to be ADA
[36:21]
compliant. That's the first thing we
[36:22]
look at. We check make sure that every
[36:25]
single one of our locations is ADA
[36:27]
compliant. And then we went back and we
[36:29]
looked at the voter turnout. Where do
[36:30]
the people choose to show up? Um, and we
[36:33]
couldn't just take, you know, the 12
[36:35]
highest turnout locations and throw
[36:37]
those on a map because it clearly it
[36:39]
puts them all in specific areas and and
[36:41]
you have big gaps all over the map. So,
[36:43]
we also had to look at how do we get
[36:45]
locations spread around the county uh to
[36:48]
to ensure that there is accessibility
[36:50]
the the distance isn't too great uh for
[36:53]
anybody to get there. And in doing that,
[36:55]
we looked if we had two locations that
[36:57]
were really really close to each other,
[36:59]
the location that had the higher turnout
[37:01]
was the one we would keep in in order to
[37:03]
get there. And we also looked at the
[37:05]
spaces in in the polling locations. Are
[37:08]
they large enough to allow us to to have
[37:10]
more equipment than normal? If we're
[37:12]
going to use a few less locations, can
[37:15]
we add some equipment to ensure that
[37:17]
we're we're not creating extra lines and
[37:19]
we can we can process these voters? And
[37:21]
so we picked locations that that did
[37:23]
have that space. And then um more
[37:26]
importantly for early voting than
[37:29]
election day uh recent legislative
[37:32]
changes call for election equipment um
[37:35]
when it is stored or when it's being
[37:37]
used during the election it must be
[37:39]
stored in a in a separate locked room.
[37:42]
Uh, so we looked at our polling
[37:44]
locations that gave us that for early
[37:46]
voting that had the separate locked room
[37:48]
because anything that would be in a
[37:49]
common area would require the staff to
[37:51]
tear everything down every night, store
[37:54]
it, lock it up, then set everything up
[37:56]
in the morning. And generally during
[37:58]
election, we only set the equipment up
[37:59]
once and we tear it down once. So doing
[38:01]
that for 12 days, obviously you
[38:03]
introduce a lot of risk um to the
[38:06]
locations opening on time, um equipment
[38:09]
breaking due to the use. Um, so we
[38:11]
looked at those locations that that were
[38:13]
going to give us
[38:15]
and meet those types of requirements.
[38:19]
Um, on the list you're going to see that
[38:20]
there there are four locations that
[38:22]
weren't used in 23 and that's um Forest
[38:26]
Hill, the town hall. That's that takes
[38:28]
the place of the Forest Hill Community
[38:30]
Center. That was a decision Forest Hill
[38:32]
made um in order to switch that
[38:34]
location. Um then we now have the
[38:38]
Arlington Active Center which is taking
[38:40]
the place of the Run Wright Library. Um
[38:44]
it's a brand new space. They're giving
[38:46]
us a much bigger space. It's very close
[38:48]
to the Run Wright Library and it's just
[38:51]
a much better space and we'll be able to
[38:53]
better handle the voters. So, um we're
[38:55]
very thankful that that the city of
[38:56]
Arlington is allowing us to use that
[38:57]
one. Um and then we looked at the the
[39:00]
North Park YMCA.
[39:02]
Um they allowed us to move in to replace
[39:04]
the Golden Triangle location. Although
[39:06]
Golden Triangle would get good turnout,
[39:09]
the parking and in and out was was very
[39:11]
very difficult. And what end would end
[39:13]
up happening is voters would park in the
[39:17]
field across the street and they would
[39:19]
play Frogger across Golden Triangle to
[39:21]
get to the polling location. Um so
[39:23]
obviously not the best situation and we
[39:25]
were able to find a better one for that
[39:26]
one. And then um you'll see that we have
[39:29]
Sagenov Public Library which is taking
[39:32]
the place of
[39:35]
um TCC Northwest which took the place of
[39:38]
Eagle Mountain Sagen ISD building
[39:40]
because the Eagle Mountain Saga ISD
[39:42]
building is no longer there. They tore
[39:43]
it down. Um so we we had shifted to DCC
[39:47]
Northwest but then we were able to get
[39:49]
the Sagena Public Library which has far
[39:51]
better parking a much better space to
[39:53]
utilize to assist the voters. So, with
[39:56]
all of the proposed locations, um, we're
[40:00]
looking at an average distance of about
[40:01]
4 and a half miles between locations.
[40:03]
Now, there is the longest distance is 10
[40:06]
miles, and it's the AEL um, ISDPD up
[40:09]
there in the northwest corner with the
[40:10]
lake. There's we just don't have
[40:13]
anything else around it. Um, now these
[40:17]
recommended lists are the bare minimum
[40:21]
that we would recommend. Um, we wouldn't
[40:23]
recommend going any lower than this um
[40:26]
to to assist the voters. Um, when we
[40:30]
were looking there, there were a few
[40:32]
that I wanted to brief the court on that
[40:33]
that were very very tough decisions. And
[40:35]
when we were looking at getting the down
[40:38]
to the bare minimum, that's that's what
[40:41]
this list includes. But KO Community
[40:43]
Center is is one location that that we
[40:46]
really really struggled with um in
[40:48]
including on the list. But again, we've
[40:51]
got down to the bare minimum knowing
[40:53]
that the court can can make changes and
[40:55]
um if they wish to add could um it it
[40:58]
where it's located turnout it's it's
[41:00]
right there kind of in that gray area
[41:02]
and it very easily could have been added
[41:04]
to the list. Um the other location is
[41:06]
the Legacy Learning Center. although
[41:09]
very low turnout, it's it's kind of up
[41:11]
in the north section there and there's
[41:13]
just not a lot around it and uh could
[41:16]
also would be um a good one to consider
[41:18]
adding to the list of the 24. And then
[41:21]
um the last area we looked at is in the
[41:25]
North Richland Hills area. We had a
[41:28]
group of four locations that really are
[41:30]
right on top of each other and but
[41:32]
there's there's still really good
[41:34]
turnout in that area and the Bedford
[41:36]
Public Library gets the most turnout in
[41:38]
that area and looking at our decision to
[41:41]
pick the location that gets the best
[41:42]
turnout. That's the one that that we
[41:44]
ended up choosing. But due to the
[41:47]
turnout in that area, um we could see
[41:50]
adding either of the um Northeast Subort
[41:54]
House or the Brookside Community Center
[41:56]
to to assist with that volume. So again,
[41:59]
this is kind of that that bare minimum
[42:01]
that we believe we can execute and and
[42:05]
pull off the election. the election day
[42:08]
locations. There was a change in the
[42:10]
statute in 23
[42:13]
that required
[42:15]
changed how we calculated the bare
[42:16]
minimum and that got us to a required
[42:19]
number of locations of 347.
[42:22]
The legislature this past legislative
[42:24]
session went back rescended that pulled
[42:27]
it back to what it used to be and now
[42:29]
the the number of locations that we must
[42:32]
have on election day is 212. The list
[42:35]
before you has 214 locations. Um, we
[42:39]
didn't go all the even though the math
[42:41]
says 80. Um, we didn't go all the way to
[42:44]
212 because to leave a little bit of
[42:46]
wiggle room if generally something does
[42:48]
happen to a location between now and
[42:50]
election day, one falls off, pipes
[42:52]
burst, things happen in order to make
[42:54]
sure that that we hit that mark. Um, but
[42:57]
212 is as far as we could go. And again,
[42:59]
we were looking at locations, which one
[43:01]
provides the best voter access in the
[43:04]
use. Um, something else that to consider
[43:07]
is we have recently had um several
[43:11]
entities are sending us their notices
[43:13]
that they're going to be joining in in
[43:14]
the election. And then the entities can
[43:16]
choose on their own to to add locations
[43:19]
that they pay for for for their um
[43:22]
elections. And the ones that we would
[43:24]
anticipate probably doing that um are
[43:27]
Halum City, which usually they they use
[43:30]
the city senior center andor the Halum
[43:33]
Library. Um the city of River Oaks and
[43:36]
they may request the River Oaks annex.
[43:38]
City of Hurst, they may request the
[43:40]
Brookside Center. Um we got the city of
[43:43]
North Richel Hills and they they most
[43:46]
likely would pick either the city hall
[43:48]
or the the library. Um and then
[43:51]
Northwest ISD is has just called a
[43:54]
special election and they they may in
[43:57]
turn want the Legacy Learning Center and
[44:00]
then uh Kennedale also has is on there
[44:02]
and they may request Doberh Hall um when
[44:05]
and joining in those elections. So
[44:08]
that's that's kind of the
[44:10]
10,000 view of of what we did, what we
[44:13]
went back and considered to get to this
[44:15]
again. This this proposal is the bare
[44:17]
minimum that that we believe we could
[44:19]
use to to have a good election. Um but
[44:24]
there there were some some tough cuts
[44:26]
that that were made and we could see um
[44:28]
adding a few as well.
[44:29]
» All right. I have some questions for
[44:30]
you. How much does this save over the
[44:33]
last election?
[44:35]
» Over the last election, I didn't
[44:37]
calculate. We were looking at the the
[44:39]
just the reduction in cost of polling
[44:40]
locations and it's over a million
[44:41]
dollars. Okay.
[44:43]
Did any member of this court
[44:46]
ask you to put something on this list or
[44:49]
take something off this list?
[44:53]
» So after it was published obviously I
[44:56]
received some phone calls and was asked
[44:57]
to make changes to the list.
[44:59]
» Okay.
[44:59]
» Um
[45:00]
» Let me then let me let me start with
[45:01]
this. Did anybody prior is this your
[45:04]
list?
[45:05]
» So this elections list is
[45:07]
» Yes this is elections list. myself, my
[45:08]
team, every location that was
[45:10]
recommended is a location that we
[45:12]
recommended. Every location that didn't
[45:15]
did not make the cut that we cut was a
[45:18]
location that we chose to cut. Not a
[45:20]
member of the court selected any one of
[45:22]
those locations or asked us to remove
[45:25]
any of those locations. This this
[45:27]
proposal is purely ours um and and our
[45:29]
recommendations.
[45:30]
» Okay. So,
[45:32]
um,
[45:34]
after
[45:36]
the county went to countywide voting,
[45:39]
which I believe was 2019,
[45:42]
is that right?
[45:43]
» Correct.
[45:45]
Elections told the court, not a single
[45:48]
member is sitting here today that
[45:50]
received this, but elections told the
[45:52]
court after a handful of elections, they
[45:55]
would go back and look at what they
[45:57]
could cut because
[46:00]
it with the countywide, you can now vote
[46:03]
anywhere.
[46:05]
Can you confirm what I just said to be
[46:07]
accurate?
[46:07]
» Correct, Judge. the the my understanding
[46:10]
the uh the initial agreement was we're
[46:12]
going to use everything that we have and
[46:13]
then eventually they would go back and
[46:15]
look at the locations and then reduce in
[46:18]
areas that they thought they could um to
[46:20]
get the cost savings. Unfortunately that
[46:22]
that didn't happen prior to me then 23
[46:24]
with the legislative change mandating
[46:27]
that that 347 polling locations. It just
[46:31]
didn't give us the room. Um if you all
[46:33]
remember we were scrambling to get to
[46:37]
347 just to meet the requirement.
[46:39]
» Does um
[46:42]
so the first time this analysis was
[46:44]
actually done was in was for ahead of
[46:47]
this 2025 constitutional amendment
[46:50]
election.
[46:50]
» Correct. Okay. Besides the
[46:53]
constitutional amendments,
[46:55]
um, which I would venture to guess 99%
[46:57]
of the public cannot name a single thing
[46:59]
on there, and if they can name it, it's
[47:01]
the homestead exemption.
[47:04]
I know there's Senate District 9 is on
[47:07]
there. Is there any other election for
[47:10]
office?
[47:13]
» For office, I don't believe so. I
[47:15]
believe most of the cities are
[47:16]
propositions.
[47:17]
» Okay. Um
[47:20]
» So um is there any law that requires us
[47:22]
to have the same amount of same amount
[47:24]
of polling locations for each election?
[47:26]
» No.
[47:27]
» Okay. Um
[47:30]
how much does it cost to operate
[47:33]
approximately? It's probably different
[47:34]
for each one. How much does it cost
[47:36]
approximately to operate one early
[47:38]
voting location?
[47:39]
» On average a little over $10,300.
[47:43]
So, I went we went back and looked at
[47:46]
some numbers. And so, I'm looking at the
[47:50]
2023
[47:53]
constitutional amendment election.
[47:56]
We had an early voting location that
[47:59]
had, and I I did some math. My math
[48:01]
could be off by a handful of hours,
[48:05]
but uh we had one location that had over
[48:09]
the course of what I believe was 12 days
[48:11]
of early voting
[48:13]
and
[48:15]
I I think it was about 120 hours of
[48:18]
being open. We had one location that had
[48:21]
95 people vote the entire time.
[48:23]
» Correct.
[48:24]
» We had another location that had 116
[48:26]
people vote the entire time. So 10, if
[48:31]
you just do some quick math, that lowest
[48:34]
one, literally less than eight people
[48:36]
per day,
[48:38]
less than a voter per hour.
[48:42]
And so you've gone through and cut a lot
[48:44]
of those locations for 2023,
[48:47]
» Correct?
[48:48]
» This is not your recommended list for
[48:51]
2025, is it?
[48:53]
» No, it's not, Judge.
[48:53]
» Okay.
[48:59]
There were several legislative changes.
[49:01]
You you briefly mentioned that. One of
[49:03]
them was the Springer bill
[49:07]
that came out and said you had to have
[49:09]
one voting location in 2023,
[49:12]
I think is when they passed it. You had
[49:15]
to have one voting location for every
[49:16]
two precincts. There was some more
[49:18]
nuance to it, but that was it. That's
[49:20]
what required us to have 347.
[49:23]
multiple counties, multiple elected
[49:25]
officials complained, said, "You're
[49:27]
making us waste money." I think LA, I
[49:29]
think for the presidential election, how
[49:31]
many total votes were there? 830
[49:33]
something thousand.
[49:34]
» Yes, Judge.
[49:35]
» And we had 349 locations on election day
[49:38]
and it was 20% of the vote
[49:40]
approximately.
[49:42]
» Close a little over 20%. Yes, Judge.
[49:45]
» Um, and we had locations that were
[49:47]
vacant for hours.
[49:50]
» Yes, Judge. So
[49:53]
they changed the Springer bill as it
[49:55]
became known down in Austin to that
[49:58]
allows us to go down to what on election
[50:02]
day locations
[50:03]
» 212
[50:04]
» 212 and so your recommendation 214
[50:07]
» Correct
[50:07]
» All right so last
[50:10]
year I guess it was when we had this
[50:12]
discussion
[50:14]
and I did not pull this information so
[50:16]
this is purely from memory but on uh
[50:20]
election day
[50:23]
we had one precinct with a 100 locations
[50:26]
and another precinct with 80 locations
[50:29]
are the numbers that stick out in my
[50:31]
head and then another one maybe had 82
[50:33]
maybe had 84 and I think the message
[50:36]
that was delivered by a majority of
[50:38]
folks up here was
[50:41]
it's too late now to go create
[50:42]
uniformity but we want something more
[50:46]
evenly balanced. Is this more evenly
[50:49]
balanced?
[50:50]
» Yes, there's a difference of one between
[50:53]
the precincts.
[50:54]
» Okay. Um
[51:01]
I told you I said it was 839,000. It was
[51:03]
828,000 people.
[51:06]
544 voted in 2024
[51:10]
election and the 2023 election had
[51:13]
156,220.
[51:16]
So uh
[51:20]
what is that? I mean that is is that 20%
[51:23]
even? It's not even 20%.
[51:30]
There was one one other question.
[51:33]
One of the legislative changes
[51:37]
said something to the effect of this
[51:39]
past session said something to the
[51:42]
effect of
[51:46]
And as you talked about it when you
[51:47]
picking up pack picking up pack up every
[51:50]
day there has to be a secure room for it
[51:53]
to happen for it to be in that you have
[51:56]
access to at all times.
[51:58]
» Correct.
[51:59]
» Were there any
[52:01]
locations that said they could not
[52:03]
accommodate that?
[52:05]
» The specifically two that we reached out
[52:07]
to UTA and TCC TCC Southeast both said
[52:11]
that they could not accommodate that.
[52:12]
Okay. All
[52:16]
right, I think that's all the questions
[52:17]
I have.
[52:19]
» Any other questions or comments? Go
[52:21]
ahead.
[52:21]
» I've got one. Clint, thanks for all your
[52:23]
work on this and to your staff. I know
[52:24]
it was painstaking, took a lot of time.
[52:27]
What kind of partisan analysis went into
[52:30]
these decisions?
[52:31]
» Zero.
[52:32]
» Okay. Thank you.
[52:37]
» So, um,
[52:38]
» Commissioner Ramirez just rec
[52:39]
» Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see.
[52:41]
» Go ahead if you'd like. Oh, you're
[52:43]
you're fine.
[52:46]
» I jumped I jumped in and did go for it.
[52:49]
Go ahead. Go ahead.
[52:49]
» Because I'm you know I'm longwinded. Go
[52:51]
ahead. Go ahead.
[52:52]
» Okay. So, uh it it was good to hear some
[52:55]
details from our election administrator
[52:59]
today. Um but let's let's kind of talk
[53:02]
about process. Um and you just heard a
[53:06]
previous speaker discuss process uh with
[53:10]
regard to the budget. Um,
[53:14]
and I don't know if anyone up here wants
[53:17]
to admit to having had input on these
[53:20]
list. Um, or how about
[53:25]
did the elections administrator
[53:28]
schedule meetings with you or your staff
[53:30]
to go over this? Probably could have
[53:33]
gotten a lot of your great questions
[53:35]
answered if if he had stopped by and
[53:38]
visited uh with each of us. Like it's
[53:41]
customary when executive staff has
[53:45]
policy, procedure, changes, initiatives,
[53:49]
ideas, you come and get our input um and
[53:53]
feedback and try to go and mash it up
[53:56]
and make it work. Uh but that that
[53:59]
didn't that didn't happen. So, I saw the
[54:03]
um list on the agenda, called him,
[54:06]
talked to him about an hour and asked
[54:09]
for
[54:10]
analysis. Where's your where's your
[54:13]
analysis? Where's your data? Um,
[54:17]
and he got this got this to got this to
[54:22]
me on Sat Saturday.
[54:26]
that that's that's not
[54:28]
analysis and data um of the election
[54:33]
process
[54:35]
uh for a county of 2.2 million people.
[54:40]
Um so I don't have
[54:44]
faith. I don't trust the process that
[54:46]
was used. It wasn't um
[54:50]
forget forget the commissioner's court.
[54:52]
It wasn't transparent to you. there was
[54:55]
no opportunity to participate, give
[54:57]
input. There are a good number of you in
[55:01]
that audience that knows elections,
[55:06]
polling places, the whole gamut better
[55:08]
than any of us and even better than
[55:11]
Clint. Um, and so to not go to the
[55:15]
community, the parties, the
[55:18]
commissioner's court,
[55:20]
um, I have a I have a problem with that.
[55:23]
So there's no evidence
[55:26]
that due diligence was um conducted by
[55:32]
um the elections administrator. He
[55:34]
single-handedly
[55:36]
developed these lists without guidance
[55:39]
and input from the five member governing
[55:42]
body u the top leadership in this
[55:46]
county. So to to me today is not a day
[55:50]
to vote on these list. Um,
[55:55]
we I think we need to have a special uh
[55:58]
a specially called meeting um to to
[56:02]
settle this issue. Get get me the data.
[56:05]
I'm interested in the data. It sounds
[56:07]
like the judge is yet a lot of
[56:08]
questions. Um to see how we got here.
[56:13]
How did we get to a place where we will
[56:17]
be causing massive voter confusion?
[56:21]
Let's let's just start with that. Um
[56:25]
impeding
[56:26]
and limiting access to the ballot box.
[56:31]
There these voters, me included. You can
[56:34]
call me a senior citizen if you want to.
[56:36]
I'm 62. Um
[56:40]
have a specific place they like to vote.
[56:44]
I
[56:46]
am stunned that you and they people out
[56:50]
there probably stunned too about
[56:52]
particular sites. I'm stunned that you
[56:56]
uh removed the Bob Duncan Center in
[56:59]
Arlington. It is incredible. Senior
[57:02]
citizens,
[57:03]
white um Hispanic and some black that
[57:09]
frequent the Bob Duncan Center. I I
[57:12]
could go on, but um I I think that
[57:16]
um you know, I would amend my motion to
[57:20]
to table this so we can at least get the
[57:23]
data, be able to analyze it as court
[57:26]
members, um give input. You mentioned
[57:30]
the new state law uh with regard to I
[57:34]
think secure rooms at um colleges and
[57:38]
universities. I have relationships with
[57:40]
my college presidents. I could text them
[57:43]
and say, "Hey, can you get us a secure
[57:45]
room?" And I I just I don't think that
[57:48]
would be a problem. But you didn't you
[57:50]
didn't check check with the people who
[57:54]
know their precincts extremely well with
[57:58]
the people who are connected to the
[58:01]
people. Um
[58:03]
» Actually commissioner specifically with
[58:05]
UTA I did reach directly out to your
[58:07]
office and ask if you could make contact
[58:10]
on the the instru when I was looking at
[58:12]
going in the instruction I received from
[58:13]
your office is that you yourself wanted
[58:15]
to handle that communication. I did
[58:17]
follow up and spoke with Gabe and he he
[58:19]
had mentioned that he had looked and
[58:21]
they were not willing to move us out of
[58:23]
um that community center or the the
[58:27]
Maverick Center.
[58:28]
» Okay. Um so my My aim here is to
[58:34]
not vote on this today until we get some
[58:39]
data um that we can that we can look at.
[58:44]
» So, is that an amendment to your own
[58:46]
motion?
[58:47]
» Yes, I can. Um
[58:48]
» And what is your amendment?
[58:50]
» Uh
[58:51]
I move to amend my motion to table the
[58:55]
vote on the list today.
[58:57]
» Why don't you just revoke your motion?
[59:00]
um your original motion.
[59:01]
» I'll ask the
[59:02]
» Withdraw your withdraw your amendment.
[59:04]
Withdraw your motion and make a new
[59:06]
motion.
[59:06]
» I'll take I'll take my advice from
[59:08]
council.
[59:09]
» Either way is fine, Commissioner. Um I
[59:12]
would suggest uh here to be clear on
[59:15]
what the record is to take the approach
[59:18]
of withdrawing the previous motion
[59:20]
rather than amending it and perhaps
[59:22]
causing some vaguess or confusion and
[59:24]
just make a straight uh motion to
[59:26]
postpone to u the next meeting whether
[59:29]
it be a special call to regularly
[59:32]
scheduled.
[59:33]
» Thank you sir.
[59:35]
So I would draw my initial motion. My
[59:39]
» Is there a requirement for a for the
[59:41]
second to with to agree to that?
[59:44]
» Is there or is once they once it's
[59:46]
withdrawn it's withdrawn?
[59:48]
» I I I would say that in this instance uh
[59:50]
if the motion is withdrawn there would
[59:53]
be no requirement for a second on this.
[59:55]
» So it's withdrawn.
[59:56]
» All right. So I move to table the vote
[1:00:00]
uh on item I3.
[1:00:03]
» We have a motion to table the vote on
[1:00:05]
I3.
[1:00:06]
» Second.
[1:00:07]
» We have a second.
[1:00:09]
» All right. Further discussion,
[1:00:11]
questions, comments for Clint or each
[1:00:13]
other before speakers?
[1:00:15]
» I've got plenty of questions, Clint. Um
[1:00:17]
and I appreciate you touching base with
[1:00:18]
me last night um to answer some of them.
[1:00:21]
Uh obviously, I think you're you're
[1:00:23]
figuring out that communication uh
[1:00:26]
probably would have gone a long way to
[1:00:27]
answer questions on the front end. Um,
[1:00:29]
you know, when I saw the list, first of
[1:00:31]
all, I I applaud you and your staff for
[1:00:33]
going through and and trying to be
[1:00:35]
analytical and data driven as we were
[1:00:37]
selecting these sites. Uh, as you
[1:00:39]
mentioned that there are a lot of
[1:00:40]
efficiencies to be found in a lot of
[1:00:42]
places where um there was waste in in
[1:00:45]
some of these locations where people
[1:00:46]
were sitting around not doing much. Um,
[1:00:48]
perhaps their efforts could could be
[1:00:50]
used to funnel people to other locations
[1:00:53]
as opposed to sitting in vacant areas.
[1:00:54]
So, I appreciate you doing that and
[1:00:56]
culling uh the the lowhanging fruit, so
[1:00:58]
to speak. Uh some of them that didn't
[1:01:00]
make sense to me, though, when I saw
[1:01:02]
this proposal were ones that I know to
[1:01:05]
be historically utilized uh very
[1:01:07]
heavily. Um ones that, you know,
[1:01:10]
candidates campaign ad, ones that have
[1:01:13]
convenient parking, ones that are in
[1:01:15]
unique uh areas. Um we talked about the
[1:01:18]
KO community center last night. I think
[1:01:20]
that's one that's very heavily used um
[1:01:22]
by all of the surrounding communities
[1:01:24]
there. Um when you when I think about
[1:01:26]
Fort Worth in particular, and that's
[1:01:28]
what I'll focus on here. Um you know,
[1:01:30]
some of these neighborhoods are like
[1:01:32]
cities in and of themselves. And so when
[1:01:34]
you think about North Side, you may say,
[1:01:36]
well, it's close proximity just north of
[1:01:38]
the stockyards to downtown. Um well, not
[1:01:41]
many folks from North Side are going
[1:01:42]
into downtown every single day for any
[1:01:44]
other reason. Um, so a convenient
[1:01:46]
location in that area makes sense. You
[1:01:49]
think about the same thing for Westside.
[1:01:50]
You could say that's that's KOMO
[1:01:52]
Community Center. Um, because the
[1:01:53]
closest one to that one is the Southwest
[1:01:56]
Subcourthouse. Um, and that's or the
[1:01:59]
Benbrook Community Center, whichever one
[1:02:01]
you you map it, and then they're about 5
[1:02:02]
miles away or seven miles away, whatever
[1:02:04]
you want to say. Uh, and then also the
[1:02:06]
the the last question I'll ask, and I
[1:02:08]
know I'm saying a lot, the last question
[1:02:10]
is about TCC Northwest. Um, you know,
[1:02:12]
that's right off of the freeway. It's a
[1:02:14]
much different uh geography than going
[1:02:16]
into Maroy and into Sagenol to get to
[1:02:19]
the library. So, um just just kind of
[1:02:22]
piece by piece what your justification
[1:02:24]
was for those because what I was hoping
[1:02:26]
to hear was that there was some
[1:02:28]
scientific method that based it on
[1:02:30]
population uh on geography. Um but I
[1:02:34]
didn't hear that. I heard that that
[1:02:35]
there was a lot of of of things that
[1:02:37]
were kind of left discretionary, which I
[1:02:40]
don't mind. You're the elections expert,
[1:02:41]
not us. However, seeing uh these
[1:02:44]
communities as individual communities
[1:02:47]
and and especially the sites that have a
[1:02:50]
history of being heavily utilized, uh I
[1:02:52]
really would need a strong justification
[1:02:54]
as to why we're going to cancel those
[1:02:55]
out. But again, I support the effort in
[1:02:58]
the aggregate. I mean, I think you you
[1:03:00]
had a mission and you came back and I
[1:03:02]
and I'm actually glad that it was
[1:03:04]
independent um that that you decided to
[1:03:07]
do this on your own. I'm glad for that.
[1:03:10]
But but again, I think you're seeing
[1:03:12]
some of the pitfalls by not checking in
[1:03:14]
even after you had your first proposal.
[1:03:15]
So, um, if you would start by explaining
[1:03:18]
justification on COMO.
[1:03:20]
» So, COMO, like I said, that one was was
[1:03:22]
a very difficult one that we went back
[1:03:24]
and forth on, and that's why I brought
[1:03:25]
it up specifically as one that
[1:03:27]
potentially would be worth adding. Um,
[1:03:30]
we it's it's right there on the border
[1:03:31]
because we got Brookside and Diane, the
[1:03:34]
Southeast Subcourthouse, Taran County
[1:03:36]
Plaza, it's kind of right in that area.
[1:03:38]
So there's there's the capacity to
[1:03:40]
handle the voters that were there, but
[1:03:42]
understanding it's it's just kind of far
[1:03:45]
enough. It was it was a very difficult
[1:03:47]
one. And that one was
[1:03:50]
we were trying to get down to the bare
[1:03:51]
minimum saying we this is the least we
[1:03:54]
could use to make this happen, but
[1:03:56]
anything that we add obviously would
[1:03:58]
would increase and add some benefit um
[1:04:01]
to a point. So, that one it it was a
[1:04:03]
very difficult one to to to cut and
[1:04:05]
hence the reason I highlighted that one
[1:04:08]
as possibly one to add. The uh North
[1:04:10]
Side Community Center, that one the the
[1:04:13]
location um not the not the greatest
[1:04:16]
location and they had 160 voters in 12
[1:04:20]
days. Um and so it just it it was near
[1:04:24]
the very bottom of voter turnout. And
[1:04:26]
so, um we chose not to include that one.
[1:04:30]
Um, even though you know we have
[1:04:32]
» Which one are you referring to right
[1:04:34]
now?
[1:04:34]
» North Side Community Center.
[1:04:36]
» Is that what you asked?
[1:04:37]
» Yeah.
[1:04:38]
» Okay.
[1:04:39]
» Well, I I asked specifically North Side
[1:04:42]
Fort Worth. If if there were a
[1:04:44]
convenient voting location that you
[1:04:46]
identified for that particular area.
[1:04:49]
» Yeah. The only the only location that we
[1:04:52]
have kind of in that area is the North
[1:04:54]
Side Community Center, and it only had
[1:04:55]
160 voters
[1:04:58]
for for early voting. Well, I think
[1:04:59]
North Side Community Center and and
[1:05:01]
Diamond Hill Jarvis Library, correct?
[1:05:05]
» Those are in close.
[1:05:06]
» Um
[1:05:08]
I guess Diamond Hill, if that is
[1:05:11]
technically North Fort Worth, it's so
[1:05:13]
far north. So, yeah, Diamond Hill is
[1:05:15]
there, but the unfortunately the law
[1:05:17]
requires that the election center be a
[1:05:19]
polling location. So, I had to have my
[1:05:22]
location, which is just down the street
[1:05:24]
from Diamond Hill. Um, so we had that
[1:05:26]
one and and I can't cut my location,
[1:05:30]
although the turnout would say we
[1:05:32]
should. Um, the law won't allow it or I
[1:05:34]
would.
[1:05:36]
» And TCC Northwest
[1:05:38]
» TCC Northwest um parking has been an
[1:05:41]
issue there historically. And then um
[1:05:43]
the that one does give us um it's kind
[1:05:46]
of a fishbowl thing that they put us in,
[1:05:50]
but they have to go and remove all the
[1:05:51]
furniture. We go in set up and then we
[1:05:54]
have to pull out. They go in and put all
[1:05:56]
the furniture back in. And we the Sagon
[1:05:58]
Public Library has much better parking,
[1:06:00]
a much better room um to to handle those
[1:06:03]
those voters. So, we chose the the Syon
[1:06:06]
Public Library because it is a new
[1:06:07]
facility that that that has just now
[1:06:09]
become available for us.
[1:06:11]
» Yeah. I just I I look at and again this
[1:06:13]
would have been great to have this
[1:06:14]
conversation um you know a couple of
[1:06:16]
weeks ago uh in an office somewhere
[1:06:18]
where we could plot these things on a
[1:06:20]
map uh because when you look at just
[1:06:22]
demographically I'm very familiar with
[1:06:24]
the area. It's where I grew up. So I
[1:06:25]
know everybody that's going to Sagenol
[1:06:27]
Library is coming from the north down
[1:06:29]
and then primarily everybody that's
[1:06:31]
going to go to TCC Northwest is probably
[1:06:32]
coming from with inside the loop up. Um
[1:06:34]
that's probably how it's how it works
[1:06:36]
out uh every year. So it's not like the
[1:06:39]
same voters are going to same places.
[1:06:40]
Now, I I say all that I mean, I know you
[1:06:42]
can't have an election center on every
[1:06:44]
single corner. Uh, and you can't
[1:06:46]
anticipate all of these things. And
[1:06:48]
again, I I think you put forward a good
[1:06:51]
effort in trying to accomplish the the
[1:06:53]
marching orders that I think you got
[1:06:54]
after the last uh exercise on voting
[1:06:57]
centers. Um but but on these I mean to
[1:07:00]
to get comfortable with this I mean I I
[1:07:02]
I really would like to see KOMO added uh
[1:07:05]
potentially TCC Northwest and
[1:07:07]
potentially something in North Side
[1:07:09]
Fort. The uh one other thing on TCC
[1:07:12]
Northwest is out of the 44 locations in
[1:07:15]
in 23 it was in the bottom 10 for
[1:07:18]
turnout. Um, so there was another reason
[1:07:21]
um to not utilize that and shift to the
[1:07:23]
library because the library having
[1:07:24]
better parking, better access, we
[1:07:26]
thought might help increase the turnout
[1:07:28]
as well.
[1:07:30]
» Anything else over here?
[1:07:32]
» I I'll say one more.
[1:07:33]
» Uh, thank uh Clinton, when we talked, I
[1:07:36]
know everything was driven by just pure
[1:07:39]
voter turnout, and I think that's the
[1:07:41]
right way to do it. I think what you
[1:07:42]
were looking at I understand some of the
[1:07:44]
concerns uh Commissioner RmIrez was just
[1:07:46]
talking about. Um but I I actually
[1:07:49]
appreciated that that that's how you
[1:07:51]
looked at it. What's the most efficient
[1:07:52]
effective way to handle this election to
[1:07:55]
get people where they need to go where
[1:07:56]
they've already shown us that they're
[1:07:57]
showing up to vote at the ballot boxes.
[1:07:59]
Let's take our resources there so we get
[1:08:01]
people in more efficiently, more
[1:08:03]
effectively. I think that was actually
[1:08:04]
really well done. Um, I guess my uh my
[1:08:08]
thought when when we're saying we
[1:08:10]
didn't, you know, it was a unilateral
[1:08:12]
decision. Why was he the one doing all
[1:08:14]
this? Sounds like you were the one
[1:08:15]
tasked with that. And so when we tell
[1:08:17]
you, please go do this for us, it seems
[1:08:19]
disingenuous for the court then to say,
[1:08:21]
why did you make these decisions? I
[1:08:23]
understand we need some more
[1:08:24]
communication, but um that's what you
[1:08:26]
were charged to do and that's what you
[1:08:28]
came back. And so again, I applaud that
[1:08:29]
effort. Um, if we vote down the motion
[1:08:32]
to table, um, and what I was going to
[1:08:34]
come in and be prepared to do, uh, right
[1:08:36]
away was to, uh, move to adopt the
[1:08:39]
voting centers that you had, but add
[1:08:41]
three. And one was Como. I I think we
[1:08:44]
ought to add KOMO in. From our
[1:08:45]
conversations yesterday, that one was
[1:08:47]
right there on the margins. Um, and
[1:08:50]
there's really no other good
[1:08:52]
geographical location that that the
[1:08:54]
people in that community can get to very
[1:08:56]
easily. Um, so I thought Ko was good.
[1:08:59]
The Legacy Learning Center up in HLlett
[1:09:01]
uh I also think was good. I was going to
[1:09:03]
move to add that one because as you said
[1:09:04]
that gap for that 10 miles as there's
[1:09:07]
not much there and as Commissioner
[1:09:08]
RmIrez knows better than anybody.
[1:09:10]
Hasllett and anywhere is hard to get
[1:09:12]
around Bonds Ranch Road. You probably
[1:09:13]
need something closer to there to get
[1:09:15]
all those people in that area done. Um
[1:09:18]
and then based on our conversation the
[1:09:20]
the Northeast Subcourthouse. Now, having
[1:09:22]
said that, I would say that's the third
[1:09:24]
in in terms of priority because we do
[1:09:27]
have the Bedford Public Library. Um, so
[1:09:30]
if if somebody else wanted to add
[1:09:31]
something there, I get that. But based
[1:09:33]
on our conversations, those were like
[1:09:35]
the three that were right on the edge
[1:09:36]
that we're no longer having. So, I'm
[1:09:39]
prepared to make a motion uh if if we
[1:09:41]
don't table it to adopt your map, but
[1:09:43]
add KOMO Legacy Learning Center in the
[1:09:45]
Northeast Subcourthouse unless there's a
[1:09:48]
overwhelming uh reason to adopt one of
[1:09:50]
the other ones. Um, but I appreciate
[1:09:52]
your work and I think you've done a good
[1:09:53]
job of hitting the target that we asked
[1:09:55]
you to do. Um and and and I think
[1:09:58]
everybody understands nobody's going to
[1:10:00]
be completely excited or thrilled with
[1:10:02]
losing uh precinct or voting locations,
[1:10:05]
but that doesn't mean that that's not
[1:10:07]
what we should do. So, thank you for
[1:10:09]
your work.
[1:10:10]
» Thank you.
[1:10:10]
» I have a comment, judge.
[1:10:13]
» The first thing I want to say is this.
[1:10:17]
This is not about wasteful
[1:10:20]
spending.
[1:10:22]
This is about voter accessibility.
[1:10:26]
Everybody deserves the the right to have
[1:10:28]
a place that they are comfortable with
[1:10:31]
and familiar with to go and to cast
[1:10:33]
their vote.
[1:10:36]
My people bled, died, and suffered and
[1:10:39]
fought for the right to be able to vote.
[1:10:44]
And to dismantle or to take those rights
[1:10:47]
away from us that we worked hard to get
[1:10:50]
is unacceptable on any level. It's not
[1:10:53]
about money. It's about access.
[1:10:58]
If it's only one person that goes to a
[1:11:00]
voting site, so be it. That's one person
[1:11:04]
that got to participate in the
[1:11:06]
democratic process. It doesn't matter
[1:11:08]
the cost. It matters making sure that
[1:11:12]
everybody has access and the ability to
[1:11:15]
go and vote and to let their voices be
[1:11:18]
heard. If we want to really talk about
[1:11:20]
it, let's talk about why there is voter
[1:11:22]
apathy. Let's begin to build strategy
[1:11:26]
around voter engagement. Instead of
[1:11:28]
taking places away from people, we need
[1:11:30]
to make it more accessible to the
[1:11:32]
people. So, as we talk about voter
[1:11:35]
access, in 2021, Taran County voters had
[1:11:39]
48 early voting sites and 323 election
[1:11:43]
day polling locations.
[1:11:45]
In 2023, early voting sites decreased
[1:11:48]
slightly to 44, but election day sites
[1:11:52]
actually increased to 330.
[1:11:54]
Under this proposal for November 2025,
[1:11:58]
voters would be left with only 24 early
[1:12:00]
voting sites, a 50% cut, and 214
[1:12:05]
election day polling sites, nearly
[1:12:08]
onethird fewer than in 2021.
[1:12:12]
Not to mention, many of the closures are
[1:12:15]
concentrated inside the A20 loop,
[1:12:18]
leaving Central Fort Worth, including
[1:12:21]
historic black and brown neighborhoods,
[1:12:24]
disproportionately affected. That, my
[1:12:26]
friend, is problematic. While our
[1:12:29]
college campus early voting sites have
[1:12:31]
been eliminated, disenfranchising young
[1:12:34]
voters, firsttime voters, and working
[1:12:37]
students who depend on access accessible
[1:12:40]
polling near their college campus.
[1:12:43]
Let this sink in. The following cities
[1:12:46]
have no early voting locations
[1:12:48]
whatsoever. Everman, Kennedale, Halum
[1:12:52]
City, Hurst, Ulis, and Edgecliffe. and
[1:12:57]
there is only one location for the whole
[1:13:00]
of Grand Prairie. That, my friend, is
[1:13:03]
problematic.
[1:13:05]
This comes on the heels of midterm
[1:13:08]
redistricting battles that already
[1:13:10]
weaken community representation.
[1:13:13]
Now, reducing polling locations is a
[1:13:16]
direct, in my opinion, a direct
[1:13:18]
continuation of attacks on every
[1:13:20]
citizen's fundamental right to vote.
[1:13:23]
Once the number of polling places
[1:13:25]
decreases, it rarely rebounds.
[1:13:29]
The precedent being set here risks
[1:13:31]
locking in long-term voter suppression.
[1:13:34]
In my humble opinion, in the 2023
[1:13:38]
election, turnout was just 12.48%
[1:13:41]
of registered voters and five sites saw
[1:13:44]
fewer than 300 voters. Instead of
[1:13:47]
closing sites, again, we should be
[1:13:49]
asking why turnout is so low and
[1:13:51]
addressing excess barriers.
[1:13:54]
Residents without cars who rely on
[1:13:57]
public transit or who juggle multiple
[1:13:59]
jobs will face the greatest burden when
[1:14:02]
polling sites are miles farther away or
[1:14:05]
reduced altogether. And let me add this,
[1:14:08]
this is part of the systemic problem. We
[1:14:11]
have people who do not connect and re
[1:14:13]
resonate with the people in the
[1:14:15]
community. We don't have people who are
[1:14:18]
here who are making decisions who are
[1:14:20]
poor, who work multiple jobs, who have
[1:14:23]
transportation issues, who have child
[1:14:25]
care issues and all of these barriers
[1:14:27]
facing them, but they are the ones that
[1:14:29]
are making the decisions for these
[1:14:30]
individuals. We're leaving these people
[1:14:33]
out of the process.
[1:14:35]
We are making them invisible.
[1:14:38]
And that ain't right. Our job is to
[1:14:41]
represent every represented, every
[1:14:43]
person in the county. The ones that look
[1:14:46]
like us, the ones that don't look like
[1:14:48]
us, the ones who have what we have, and
[1:14:50]
the ones who don't. Everybody needs to
[1:14:52]
be included in this process. And the way
[1:14:55]
it is presently presented, they do not.
[1:14:59]
And that's problematic. And we need to
[1:15:02]
look at the humanness of ourselves and
[1:15:04]
begin to see people for who they are and
[1:15:06]
where they are and what they need and
[1:15:08]
not make decisions and judgments based
[1:15:10]
upon our experience and our lens.
[1:15:15]
That's what we're doing. We're making
[1:15:17]
decisions based upon our personal lens
[1:15:20]
and we're not taking into account what
[1:15:22]
the people who will be affected by this
[1:15:25]
need.
[1:15:27]
[Music]
[1:15:28]
I want you to think about that.
[1:15:32]
While state regulations and budgets
[1:15:34]
create pressures, disenfranchising
[1:15:37]
entire communities is not an acceptable
[1:15:40]
solution.
[1:15:41]
Democracy should not be sacrificed for
[1:15:45]
administrative convenience or cost
[1:15:47]
savings.
[1:15:49]
Democracy in Taran County is being
[1:15:51]
chipped away. First through
[1:15:53]
redistricting, now through cuts, now to
[1:15:56]
voting sites. This is not about
[1:15:58]
efficiency. It's about eroding access
[1:16:01]
and silencing voices.
[1:16:04]
60 years ago, these kinds of tactics
[1:16:08]
were unacceptable and today they remain
[1:16:11]
an insult to every voter in Taran
[1:16:14]
County. And as I close my remarks, in
[1:16:17]
the words of Dr. Martin Luther King,
[1:16:19]
give us the vote. We're not asking for
[1:16:22]
it. Give it to us because it belongs to
[1:16:25]
us. Thank you.
[1:16:30]
Sit down. I have something else.
[1:16:42]
Okay. So, um this this plan as presented
[1:16:46]
today, it just it makes it harder for
[1:16:49]
people to vote. Not easier. And so
[1:16:53]
making it easier for people to vote, I
[1:16:57]
hopefully that's what we all want is
[1:17:01]
more voter turnout. Um I've heard Clint
[1:17:04]
say since I've been on this panel uh
[1:17:07]
over and over he needs more polling
[1:17:10]
locations. He has stood at that podium
[1:17:13]
and said that repeatedly repeatedly.
[1:17:17]
And so, um, we've got a perfectly good
[1:17:21]
list of polling places from 2023.
[1:17:27]
Use it. The ones that are not welcoming
[1:17:30]
us back, of course, but use that. Now,
[1:17:34]
make this make any sense to me, and um,
[1:17:38]
Commissioner Krauss, I think, touched on
[1:17:40]
it. The Northeast
[1:17:44]
uh, Gary Ficus Subcourthouse
[1:17:48]
number
[1:17:49]
eight on the list of the highest vote
[1:17:53]
getting polling places in the county,
[1:17:55]
but he removed it.
[1:17:59]
Uh
[1:18:00]
that kind of thing has got to be
[1:18:03]
explained. Um
[1:18:06]
so
[1:18:09]
people need to be able to vote without
[1:18:10]
having to worry about trying to figure
[1:18:13]
out where to go. Everybody's not going
[1:18:15]
to jump on their phone and or try to
[1:18:17]
find out what their precinct number is.
[1:18:20]
U they're going to turn around and go
[1:18:21]
home if it's not at the usual place that
[1:18:25]
it's been at. And
[1:18:28]
we know resources are not the problem.
[1:18:32]
Um the the
[1:18:35]
FY24
[1:18:37]
fullear contract labor spend was 2.4 4
[1:18:41]
million and the current budget allocates
[1:18:44]
3.3 million for contract labor. Uh so
[1:18:49]
that gives us more than enough to fund
[1:18:52]
the staffing needs to keep voting
[1:18:54]
accessible.
[1:18:56]
Uh you know, unless I'm wrong, but you
[1:19:00]
can come by and tell me. I'm just I
[1:19:02]
looked at your looked at the budget.
[1:19:05]
Um so it feels like we're doing two
[1:19:08]
things at the same time. We just
[1:19:09]
finished drawing up a new map because
[1:19:12]
our county is growing so fast, right? We
[1:19:15]
just redistricted,
[1:19:18]
got all these new people,
[1:19:21]
we think, but then we turn right around
[1:19:24]
and say we're going to cut our voting
[1:19:27]
spots in half. Come on now. Come on. Um
[1:19:33]
that just does not add up. And so when
[1:19:36]
you take away places to vote from
[1:19:42]
I can't even there's so many segments of
[1:19:45]
the community that you're discriminating
[1:19:48]
against. I it's hard to pick one. Senior
[1:19:51]
citizens.
[1:19:53]
You know, when you say UTA, you think
[1:19:56]
the campus, but if you've lived in
[1:19:58]
Arlington for almost 40 years, as I
[1:20:01]
have, you know that neighborhood. And
[1:20:05]
that neighborhood is a senior
[1:20:08]
neighborhood.
[1:20:09]
Those people can walk right across the
[1:20:11]
street, get their steps in, and vote on
[1:20:14]
campus.
[1:20:16]
You're discriminating against
[1:20:17]
African-Americans. Who takes coma?
[1:20:20]
You're discriminate. Who
[1:20:23]
You know, the voter turnout at Vernon
[1:20:27]
Newsome
[1:20:29]
is a high minority population, but
[1:20:34]
um and and I'm going back and forth
[1:20:36]
between the list, election day and
[1:20:39]
early. Um so
[1:20:43]
y'all know what this is called, voter
[1:20:46]
suppression,
[1:20:48]
uh impeding access to the ballot box.
[1:20:52]
Um, and really Clint,
[1:20:55]
it was what almost a year ago that we
[1:20:57]
were up here about the college the
[1:20:59]
polling places on college campuses
[1:21:02]
and um it's a big fight. A whole bunch
[1:21:05]
of people up here. Um, and it and it
[1:21:08]
failed.
[1:21:10]
So, we know the Republican party of
[1:21:13]
Taran County, they've said it,
[1:21:16]
thinks only students are only Democrats
[1:21:19]
and they only vote on college campus,
[1:21:21]
whatever.
[1:21:23]
So, what you're doing is the work of the
[1:21:27]
Republican party. You You went so we
[1:21:29]
wouldn't have to debate it up here. You
[1:21:32]
went ahead and said, "I'll I'll just
[1:21:35]
remove all college campuses."
[1:21:38]
Um, and you are SP you an elections
[1:21:42]
administrator
[1:21:44]
must have integrity.
[1:21:47]
You you 100% have to. And that's called
[1:21:50]
into question when you cut by 44% almost
[1:21:57]
in half the number of polling places for
[1:22:02]
each of these constituents. We talk
[1:22:04]
about working families.
[1:22:06]
gotta rush home and pick up the kids
[1:22:09]
from daycare and vote. That's you're
[1:22:10]
discriminating against them when you cut
[1:22:12]
these vote centers in half. Um, senior
[1:22:15]
citizens, African-Americans, Latinos, it
[1:22:18]
it goes on and on. And so, um, I I'm
[1:22:23]
I've got my motion on the floor. Um, it
[1:22:27]
just this proposal, this list is not
[1:22:30]
right. And I do have a PowerPoint
[1:22:33]
presentation because you don't, do you?
[1:22:36]
No, ma'am.
[1:22:37]
» Okay, I do. And I can show you show the
[1:22:41]
public what it looks like now and how
[1:22:45]
many um uh spots you're taking away. Do
[1:22:48]
y Where's the IT? Where are the IT
[1:22:50]
people? Is it up?
[1:22:56]
Gabe, if you can click
[1:23:05]
All right. In 2023, we had 331 election
[1:23:10]
day polling locations.
[1:23:12]
In 2024, that number was 349.
[1:23:17]
Uh, and this draft proposal today has
[1:23:19]
214 sites. That's a net loss of 117
[1:23:22]
polling places from the last
[1:23:24]
constitutional amendment election. Um, a
[1:23:27]
35% loss of location. So, um, that's
[1:23:31]
what that looks like. 23, look at all
[1:23:34]
those accessible locations. 24
[1:23:38]
or 25 proposed 25. And that's what we're
[1:23:41]
talking about um doing. That's election
[1:23:46]
day.
[1:23:48]
And
[1:23:50]
here's early vote 2023.
[1:23:54]
44 early vote locations.
[1:23:57]
in 2025 uh 2024 we had 51 but we I
[1:24:01]
didn't show that. So then you go to the
[1:24:04]
proposed for 2025
[1:24:08]
I mean
[1:24:11]
it's ridiculous. Go back to um 23
[1:24:15]
25.
[1:24:17]
Thank you sir. These aren't small
[1:24:19]
changes. These are drastic cuts that
[1:24:22]
will have a real and painful impact on
[1:24:25]
our voters. And what really gets me is
[1:24:27]
where these cuts are being made. Um, all
[1:24:31]
the colleges are gone. Our young people,
[1:24:33]
students, they deserve a convenient
[1:24:35]
place to vote. Um, and walking uh from
[1:24:38]
UTA to the Arlington subcours is a hike
[1:24:41]
when you're walking. Okay. Um, so we we
[1:24:46]
should be encouraging participation in
[1:24:48]
our democracy, not putting up barriers
[1:24:51]
to folks civic duties. Um, so that's
[1:24:55]
that's all I've got for now.
[1:24:57]
» All right. Anybody else have anything?
[1:24:58]
Yes, ma'am. Sir,
[1:24:59]
» I was just going to say in 2023, we only
[1:25:02]
utilize two college campuses anyway, and
[1:25:04]
UTA was not one of them.
[1:25:05]
» Okay. I know. I know that.
[1:25:08]
» Anything else from anyone up here before
[1:25:10]
we go to the speakers?
[1:25:13]
» All right. Thank you, Clint.
[1:25:18]
» This is I3. All right. Our first speaker
[1:25:20]
you uh I will remind you please follow
[1:25:22]
the rules.
[1:25:24]
Our first speaker is Mindy Tacket.
[1:25:26]
Following Mindy Tacket we have Daniel
[1:25:28]
Peters.
[1:25:32]
If you if I call your name and will you
[1:25:34]
please make your way to the center
[1:25:36]
aisle.
[1:25:41]
It's one minute for the these this item.
[1:25:44]
In 1980, Paul Hyrick, a founder of the
[1:25:47]
modern right, said the quiet part out
[1:25:50]
loud. I don't want everybody to vote.
[1:25:54]
Our leverage goes up as the voting
[1:25:56]
populace goes down. That's the playbook.
[1:26:00]
And his heirs obviously are still at
[1:26:03]
work closing polling places in black and
[1:26:06]
Latino neighborhoods and college
[1:26:08]
campuses. coming on the heels of maps
[1:26:11]
that split communities apart. All behind
[1:26:14]
it, white Christian nationalism. If your
[1:26:17]
faith, your race, your neighborhood
[1:26:19]
doesn't fit their vision, the goal is
[1:26:21]
keep you from the ballot box. That's
[1:26:24]
what's happening here. You all fear the
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people of Tarant County. You want to
[1:26:29]
decide who counts and who doesn't.
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» But democracy only works when voters
[1:26:34]
choose their leaders. And today,
[1:26:37]
everyone here and everyone watching
[1:26:39]
online can see how dangerous your
[1:26:42]
choices are to our democracy.
[1:26:45]
» Thank you. Is Mr. Peters present? Daniel
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Peters? Do we still have people out
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there?
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Anyone?
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» I don't know, but I'll find out.
[1:26:56]
» All right. Daniel Peters, I called him.
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We're moving to Candace Swanson.
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Following Miss Swanson, we have Allison
[1:27:03]
Compalo.
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Is this Miss Swanson? Okay,
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» Judge. We do still have people outside.
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» Say it again.
[1:27:16]
» We do still have people out in the
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overflow.
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» Ready? Thomas Jefferson said, "We do not
[1:27:22]
have a government by the majority. We
[1:27:24]
have a government by the majority who
[1:27:26]
participate. The new locations will
[1:27:29]
suppress participation.
[1:27:31]
Tarant County is growing. 89 people move
[1:27:34]
here a day. Closing half the early
[1:27:36]
polling locations and 130 some odd of
[1:27:39]
the same day sites will suppress
[1:27:41]
turnout. By creating voting deserts in
[1:27:45]
minority communities, you force voters
[1:27:47]
to travel farther to exercise their
[1:27:49]
rights, especially the elderly and those
[1:27:52]
of limited means. These tactics are not
[1:27:54]
a sign of a healthy democracy, but we
[1:27:57]
all understand you need to ensure a win
[1:27:59]
for your side. Judge, you demand respect
[1:28:02]
in your court. Cracking, packing, and
[1:28:04]
suppression are unfair and disrespectful
[1:28:06]
to those you serve. Please be fair and
[1:28:09]
respect the voters. Do not make it more
[1:28:11]
difficult to participate in elections.
[1:28:13]
Thank you for your attention to this
[1:28:15]
matter.
[1:28:16]
» Thank you, Miss Compalo. Following Miss
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Compalo is Taylor Ramett.
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» Hello. Um, okay. So, I called Clint the
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other day and I I asked for locations
[1:28:27]
and he said that's something for the
[1:28:29]
commissioners to change the list. So,
[1:28:31]
I'm officially requesting that we change
[1:28:32]
the list of the proposed polling
[1:28:34]
locations. Um, I would at the very least
[1:28:37]
recommend that we add in some polling
[1:28:40]
locations. Um, even if we don't add in
[1:28:41]
all of them, I'm not asking you to open
[1:28:42]
the Everman Civic Center if nobody votes
[1:28:44]
there. Um, I would please request the
[1:28:46]
following six locations. Uh, which is
[1:28:48]
the South Service Center or something
[1:28:50]
equivalent to it. uh the Ulus family
[1:28:52]
senior center, the Komao Community
[1:28:53]
Center, and the Bob Duncan Center. Those
[1:28:55]
are the top four. So, those were in the
[1:28:56]
top 24 by population and by turnout um
[1:28:59]
from the 2023 list. Those were very
[1:29:01]
highly uh utilized and used. And then
[1:29:04]
also the Vernon Newsome Stadium and at
[1:29:06]
least one location in the north side.
[1:29:08]
And you know, I know Manny and I agree
[1:29:10]
on almost nothing, but he's completely
[1:29:12]
right. We can't have no locations in the
[1:29:14]
north side. We need at least one. Um, we
[1:29:17]
closed the North Side Community Center,
[1:29:18]
you closed the campus, you closed the
[1:29:19]
Diamond Jarvis Library. That's not
[1:29:21]
acceptable. We need last one. Nobody's
[1:29:23]
going to Thank you.
[1:29:26]
» Is that Mr. Rett? Okay. Following Mr.
[1:29:28]
Rette, we have Nicole White.
[1:29:33]
» As an Air Force veteran, I took an oath
[1:29:35]
to defend the Constitution. A note that
[1:29:37]
didn't end when I hung up my uniform.
[1:29:39]
That oath is why I'm standing here
[1:29:41]
today. At its core, the right to vote is
[1:29:44]
not a partisan issue. It is the
[1:29:46]
foundation of who we are as Americans.
[1:29:49]
Every one of us in this room may differ
[1:29:51]
on policy or party, but we should all
[1:29:54]
agree on this. The ballot box must
[1:29:56]
remain open, accessible, and fair. The
[1:30:00]
proposal to cut the early to cut the
[1:30:02]
number of early voting locations in half
[1:30:04]
and the closing of over 100 election day
[1:30:06]
polling sites will make it harder for
[1:30:08]
working people, for young people, for
[1:30:10]
black and brown folks, seniors, for
[1:30:13]
voters who depend on nearby places to
[1:30:16]
cast their ballot. We are not saving
[1:30:18]
money. We're spending trust. And once
[1:30:21]
and and once trust in our elections is
[1:30:23]
gone, it doesn't come back. It doesn't
[1:30:26]
come back with a stroke of a budget.
[1:30:28]
History may not remember the margins of
[1:30:30]
this election, but it will remember
[1:30:32]
whether we expanded or diminished it.
[1:30:36]
» Uh Nicole White, is she present?
[1:30:40]
Following Miss White, William Marks,
[1:30:43]
William Marks present.
[1:30:47]
Next we would have Fallon Brazzle.
[1:30:53]
William Marks or Fallon Brazzle.
[1:31:01]
The voters you're trying to suppress are
[1:31:03]
my constituents. My name is William
[1:31:05]
Marks. I'm a candidate for the Texas
[1:31:07]
25th Congressional District. So
[1:31:10]
eliminating voting locations is an
[1:31:12]
assault on the rights of the working
[1:31:14]
class, an assault on young voters, an
[1:31:17]
assault on everyday Texans, and an
[1:31:20]
assault on truth, justice, and the
[1:31:22]
American way.
[1:31:24]
This map of voter suppression is
[1:31:27]
stealing the American promise that
[1:31:29]
everyone has a voice, that the
[1:31:31]
government exists of the people, by the
[1:31:34]
people and for the people. So if
[1:31:36]
Republican policies are so good, let
[1:31:39]
them stand on their own. Let the people
[1:31:42]
decide and bring back every location
[1:31:45]
you're trying to eliminate.
[1:31:49]
» Is Fallon Brazzle here?
[1:31:53]
» All right. with no foul and brazle.
[1:31:55]
Whitney Wood Wararez.
[1:31:58]
It's Miss Wararez present.
[1:32:01]
Whitney Wood Wararez.
[1:32:04]
Is that Miss Warez?
[1:32:07]
Are you Miss Wararez?
[1:32:08]
» Okay. Following Miss Wararez is Abiola
[1:32:12]
Agoro.
[1:32:15]
» Good morning. Access to the ballot box
[1:32:18]
is the foundation of our democracy.
[1:32:20]
Closing these locations will create
[1:32:23]
unnecessary barriers for students,
[1:32:26]
working families, and communities of
[1:32:28]
color. Many of these voters already face
[1:32:32]
challenges like transportation and long
[1:32:34]
work hours. Removing convenient polling
[1:32:37]
places will only make it harder for them
[1:32:39]
to participate in our elections.
[1:32:42]
Instead of limiting access, our county
[1:32:44]
should be doing everything possible to
[1:32:47]
expand it. Every voter, every vote
[1:32:52]
matters.
[1:32:54]
Every voter should have an equal
[1:32:56]
opportunity to cast their ballot. Thank
[1:32:59]
you.
[1:33:00]
» Thank you. Is Abiola Agoro present?
[1:33:04]
Following Miss Agoro, we have Diane
[1:33:06]
Simmons or Simons.
[1:33:10]
» How many of you all still have your
[1:33:11]
grandparents or your parents alive? Show
[1:33:14]
of hands. Nobody has grandparents or
[1:33:16]
parents. If your grandmother fell in the
[1:33:19]
middle of the road when I had an
[1:33:20]
interview, would you want me to take the
[1:33:22]
time to help her? We often talk about
[1:33:25]
what is legal. We talk about what we
[1:33:27]
feel obligated to do. But helping people
[1:33:30]
is not convenient. Helping people and
[1:33:33]
doing what is necessary for people is
[1:33:36]
one of the most inconvenient things in
[1:33:38]
the entire world.
[1:33:40]
» But it is what we must do. Many of you
[1:33:43]
all have lived by different models your
[1:33:46]
entire life. I'm sure Judge will
[1:33:47]
recognize veritas liberavit vos for the
[1:33:51]
truth will make you free from SMU
[1:33:54]
disciplina precidium civotas or
[1:33:56]
cultivated minds are the guardian genius
[1:33:58]
of democracy I'm not asking for you all
[1:34:01]
to do what is easy I'm not asking for
[1:34:03]
you all to do anything that is easy but
[1:34:06]
I am asking for you to abide by what you
[1:34:07]
have been said to abide by for your
[1:34:09]
entire lives
[1:34:10]
» Thank you following Miss Simons we have
[1:34:12]
Josiah Weber
[1:34:22]
I'm Diane Simons, uh, precinct. Oh, I
[1:34:24]
guess it's two now. Um, but I'm also a
[1:34:27]
precinct chair 1206. Also, I am a house
[1:34:30]
uh, uh,
[1:34:33]
coordinator uh, that takes care of 97.
[1:34:36]
And I just want to let you know that,
[1:34:38]
you know, I've lived and grown up in Ben
[1:34:40]
Brook and I still go to KO.
[1:34:43]
Why? Because the parking is horrible in
[1:34:45]
Benber. And if you're disabled, the
[1:34:47]
parking, all the people that park there
[1:34:50]
and the parking spot work there. And
[1:34:52]
it's
[1:34:54]
hard to get around and not actually hit
[1:34:56]
somebody if you're doing curbside voting
[1:34:58]
as well. Uh KO has a lot of curbside
[1:35:00]
voting. And uh anybody that's been
[1:35:03]
there, they'll always see that. And so
[1:35:05]
you're taken away and people that are in
[1:35:08]
a wheelchair, our public transportation
[1:35:10]
only holds two people max and people are
[1:35:12]
having to wait for the next time to come
[1:35:14]
around. You took all the other locations
[1:35:16]
out of Fort Worth pretty much. We have
[1:35:19]
to be able to get there.
[1:35:20]
» Thank you.
[1:35:21]
» And you can't take them away.
[1:35:22]
» Thank you. Is Josiah Weber present?
[1:35:26]
Josiah Weber. Okay. The time is 11:31.
[1:35:31]
We are going to take a break, a recess
[1:35:33]
until 11:40.
[1:35:35]
So, we will be back at 11:40 to continue
[1:35:37]
public comments. We're in recess.
[1:47:07]
Sorry.
[1:47:15]
Yeah.
[1:47:18]
» All right. Please go ahead and find your
[1:47:20]
seats. Uh we will resume.
[1:47:25]
And the next person we have to speak is
[1:47:29]
Stella Fair. Following Miss Fair, we
[1:47:33]
have Sonia Bole. Is Miss Fair present?
[1:47:37]
» I heard her say, "I'm here."
[1:47:41]
I think I heard that.
[1:47:49]
» Good morning. I guess it's still
[1:47:51]
morning. During a commission's court
[1:47:53]
meeting in early 2024, one of you said,
[1:47:56]
and I quote, "I don't believe it's the
[1:47:58]
county government's responsibility to
[1:48:00]
try to get more people out to the
[1:48:02]
polls." While this statement may be
[1:48:04]
true, it is also not your responsibility
[1:48:07]
to reduce voter turnout by eliminating
[1:48:10]
eliminating access to polling places. It
[1:48:12]
is your responsibility, however, to
[1:48:15]
ensure that all voters of Tarant County
[1:48:17]
have unfettered access to free and fair
[1:48:20]
elections. I urge you to honor your duty
[1:48:22]
to the voters of this county and reject
[1:48:24]
this proposal.
[1:48:26]
» Thank you. Uh Sonia Bole present. Uh,
[1:48:30]
following Mr. Bole, we have Elizabeth
[1:48:32]
Gonzalez.
[1:48:36]
» Hello. It's nice to see y'all. Um,
[1:48:39]
commissioners, I'm here speaking today
[1:48:42]
to urge you not to close any voting
[1:48:44]
locations and perhaps add more to HB
[1:48:47]
area, DFW area, and other parts of the
[1:48:50]
community, especially those serving
[1:48:51]
lower income and diverse neighborhoods.
[1:48:54]
These communities already face
[1:48:55]
significant barriers to voting,
[1:48:57]
including limited access to reliable
[1:48:59]
transportation and great challenges for
[1:49:02]
elderly residents. Reducing polling
[1:49:04]
places would only make those obstacles
[1:49:06]
worse, forcing people to travel further,
[1:49:08]
wait longer, and potentially give up on
[1:49:11]
voting altogether. I currently volunteer
[1:49:14]
to help seniors in my area to get to
[1:49:16]
appointments, grocery visits, and any
[1:49:19]
other oblig obligatory appointments that
[1:49:21]
they need in their free time. This would
[1:49:23]
put a significant obstacle on those
[1:49:25]
individuals.
[1:49:27]
We have seen in the past elections that
[1:49:28]
long wait times, fewer voting sites hit
[1:49:30]
workingass and minority voters the
[1:49:33]
hardest. This resident, these residents
[1:49:35]
deserve the same access to the
[1:49:37]
» Thank you.
[1:49:38]
» Thank you.
[1:49:40]
Uh, Elizabeth Gonzalez. It's Miss
[1:49:42]
Gonzalez present.
[1:49:45]
Elizabeth Gonzalez.
[1:49:48]
Okay. Isabella Barnett.
[1:49:51]
» Hi. Following Miss Barnett, we have
[1:49:53]
Stephanie McCartney.
[1:49:57]
» Hi.
[1:49:58]
» Hi.
[1:49:59]
» I believe that it is common knowledge to
[1:50:01]
most people in this room that having
[1:50:03]
equal access to the ballot box is a
[1:50:05]
civil right that's recognized and
[1:50:06]
protected by the Constitution. I believe
[1:50:09]
it is the representatives responsibility
[1:50:11]
to protect and uphold that right through
[1:50:13]
their actions and policies. That's why
[1:50:16]
I'm speaking today to express my deep
[1:50:18]
opposition to the motion to close a
[1:50:19]
portion of Tarant County's early voting
[1:50:21]
locations. To call early voting
[1:50:23]
locations a waste of taxpayer money is
[1:50:25]
an extremely insensitive and quite
[1:50:27]
honestly an insult to the people of
[1:50:29]
Tarant County. Personally, I do not
[1:50:32]
believe it is an elected officials place
[1:50:34]
to hypothesize on how to disengage
[1:50:37]
constituents from their civic
[1:50:38]
participation. This decision would
[1:50:41]
affect college students living on
[1:50:42]
campus, specifically those without a
[1:50:44]
vehicle, individuals without the means
[1:50:46]
to travel, working people without the
[1:50:48]
schedule to vote, and those with
[1:50:49]
disabilities, and more from marginalized
[1:50:51]
communities. To move forward with this
[1:50:53]
decision is an active form of voter
[1:50:55]
suppression, specifically targeting
[1:50:57]
young working voters and black and brown
[1:50:59]
voters. Thank you.
[1:51:00]
» Thank you. Uh Stephanie McCartney.
[1:51:03]
Following Miss McCartney, we have
[1:51:04]
Vanessa Nun.
[1:51:11]
Tarant County and this court have a
[1:51:13]
shameful record. Texas already like
[1:51:15]
ranks last in voter access and Tarant
[1:51:18]
County is following the state's worst
[1:51:19]
trends. We demand transparency and
[1:51:22]
justice. We call on this court to
[1:51:25]
immediately halt all closures and
[1:51:27]
release the full list of cuts. hold
[1:51:29]
public hearings in affected areas and
[1:51:32]
restore voting access with mobile
[1:51:33]
polling units and extended early voting
[1:51:35]
like Harris County. This is about
[1:51:38]
fairness and if you unwisely proceed, we
[1:51:40]
will file federal complaints under the
[1:51:42]
Voting Rights Act. We will mobilize
[1:51:44]
voters to remember this in November.
[1:51:47]
Expose who benefits from silencing
[1:51:49]
black, Latino, disabled, young, and
[1:51:51]
workingclass voters. The nation is
[1:51:53]
watching. Will Tarant County stand for
[1:51:56]
democracy or suppression? Thank you.
[1:51:59]
Thank you. Uh, Miss Nun, did I call out
[1:52:02]
Vanessa Nun?
[1:52:05]
I'm calling out Vanessa Nun now. Vanessa
[1:52:07]
Nun,
[1:52:09]
Jennifer Snowden,
[1:52:12]
Vanessa Nun, or Jennifer Snowden. Do we
[1:52:14]
still have people outside?
[1:52:16]
» Okay. Uh, Sabrina Ball.
[1:52:22]
Vanessa Nun, Jennifer Snowden, Sabrina
[1:52:25]
Ball. Okay.
[1:52:29]
How about Suzanne Mabe?
[1:52:33]
Miss Mab, come on up.
[1:52:35]
No, we'll go ahead and let her go now.
[1:52:36]
Miss Mab, we'll have you second. Okay.
[1:52:44]
» Hi, I'm a native Texan and a mom and an
[1:52:47]
election judge in Commissioner Ramirez's
[1:52:49]
district, or at least I hope to still
[1:52:51]
be. At my precinct, we've worked hard to
[1:52:53]
grow turnout. I see men and women coming
[1:52:55]
straight from long shifts, sweaty and
[1:52:57]
tired, but determined to vote. I see
[1:52:59]
mothers with children, seniors, and
[1:53:01]
veterans who depend on us. These are not
[1:53:03]
wealthy families, but they are American
[1:53:05]
families with the same right to vote as
[1:53:07]
anyone in South Lake. When you cut early
[1:53:09]
voting sites like, KOMO, and TCU, sites
[1:53:12]
with great access for working families
[1:53:14]
and the elderly, you're not saving
[1:53:16]
money. You're sacrificing democracy to
[1:53:19]
save a buck. Working families built this
[1:53:21]
country. Don't silence them now. Stand
[1:53:24]
with us, not against us.
[1:53:27]
» Next we have Suzanne Mab. Following Miss
[1:53:30]
May, we have Gwen Bude.
[1:53:38]
» Hi. I I came here to um ask you to
[1:53:42]
reconsider these uh selections that you
[1:53:46]
presented to us, but uh Commissioner
[1:53:49]
Miles stole all my thunder.
[1:53:52]
And so I want to second everything that
[1:53:55]
he said, but I have a couple of couple
[1:53:58]
of small things to say. Uh if your goal
[1:54:01]
is to suppress voting, you're doing a
[1:54:04]
really good job. And uh there are only
[1:54:07]
two sites within loop 820 and the public
[1:54:10]
transportation outside of loop 820 is
[1:54:13]
non-existent almost. So that needs to be
[1:54:17]
rectified.
[1:54:18]
And uh then I want I want to ask you why
[1:54:21]
should why would you make it harder for
[1:54:24]
every year for people to vote? uh you
[1:54:27]
are charged with overseeing the
[1:54:29]
elections and you shouldn't try and cut
[1:54:32]
the budget to keep people from voting by
[1:54:35]
removing places to vote. Uh
[1:54:39]
» Thank you. Following this birude we have
[1:54:42]
Andrew Kawa.
[1:54:50]
» Hello Gwen Bude here. I now represent
[1:54:53]
Texans Defending Democracy, a nonprofit,
[1:54:55]
nonpartisan organization committed to
[1:54:58]
protecting Texans right to vote. This
[1:55:01]
proposal would reduce Tarant County
[1:55:03]
polling locations and it lacks clear
[1:55:06]
rationale. Looking at early voting
[1:55:08]
locations alone, high turnout and
[1:55:10]
polling locations across Tarant County
[1:55:12]
such as Brookside Center, KO Community
[1:55:15]
Center, and Ulis Family Life Center as
[1:55:17]
well as the Golden Triangle location
[1:55:19]
would all be closed. while lower turnout
[1:55:22]
areas would lose access altogether. As
[1:55:24]
Commissioner RmIrez pointed out, this
[1:55:26]
means voters will travel farther, face
[1:55:28]
longer lines, and depend on limited
[1:55:31]
public transportation services.
[1:55:34]
Twothirds of the remaining sites are
[1:55:36]
hard to reach without a car. And if one
[1:55:40]
site shuts down due to technical
[1:55:42]
problems, the backup would be the backup
[1:55:45]
would be few and far as far as locations
[1:55:48]
would be few and far between. These
[1:55:50]
closures make voting harder, not easier.
[1:55:52]
Please make voting easier.
[1:55:54]
» Thank you. Is Andrew Kawa present?
[1:55:59]
» All right. K K A W A is how to pronounce
[1:56:01]
it. Andrew. Uh Molly Sanchez.
[1:56:08]
Katherine Godby.
[1:56:12]
All right. Molly Sanchez.
[1:56:14]
Miss Godby, come on up.
[1:56:20]
following Miss Godby and Zeta.
[1:56:27]
I've been trying to understand what it
[1:56:29]
means that I'm white. Uh, believe me,
[1:56:32]
it's a painful journey. When I first
[1:56:35]
learned that this was agendaized today,
[1:56:37]
my spirit sank. I'm so tired of these
[1:56:41]
racist policies, racist actions by my
[1:56:44]
county government. Voter suppression is
[1:56:46]
an act of violence. It's in the long
[1:56:48]
tradition of what Ben Boswell calls
[1:56:51]
white terrorism.
[1:56:53]
As in the middle passage, child slavery,
[1:56:56]
police brutality, redlinining, mass
[1:56:58]
incarceration, gerrymandering, sundown
[1:57:01]
towns, lynchings,
[1:57:03]
urban renewal, Jim Crow laws. White
[1:57:06]
people have been terrorizing black
[1:57:08]
people for over 400 years, and we've got
[1:57:11]
to stop it. Thank you.
[1:57:14]
Uh, an Zeta following Miss Zeta's Aaron
[1:57:18]
Perks or Perus.
[1:57:21]
» Good morning. I'm An Zeta, newly
[1:57:23]
racially gerrymandered into precinct 4.
[1:57:26]
I didn't realize until I was preparing
[1:57:27]
my remarks that I was dressed all in
[1:57:29]
black, but I guess it's apppropo of the
[1:57:30]
issue that I'm here to speak on, the
[1:57:32]
steady whittling away of our democracy.
[1:57:34]
With only one minute to speak, another
[1:57:36]
example of your efforts to limit the
[1:57:37]
voices of constituents. I will just say
[1:57:39]
that I am opposed to the reduction of
[1:57:41]
polling locations that
[1:57:42]
disproportionately impact black and
[1:57:44]
brown voters. Several years ago, while
[1:57:46]
serving on the Fort Worth City Council,
[1:57:47]
a demographer from Rice University
[1:57:49]
presented to us the growth of minority
[1:57:51]
community communities that were destined
[1:57:53]
to make Fort Worth and Tarant County
[1:57:55]
majority minority. And here we are. And
[1:57:57]
now we have to fight to ensure that
[1:58:00]
those voices are heard. Eliminating
[1:58:01]
polling locations will not make people
[1:58:03]
go away, but it does make it harder for
[1:58:05]
those voices to be heard. This is voter
[1:58:07]
suppression. I also wanted to say that
[1:58:09]
with the limited process of voters, it's
[1:58:11]
about it's not about limiting the
[1:58:13]
ability to process voters. It's the
[1:58:15]
proximity of voters to hear their vo
[1:58:18]
their voices to be heard. And is the
[1:58:20]
goal the bare minimum? I keep hearing
[1:58:22]
the bare minimum.
[1:58:23]
» Thank you. It's Aaron Perkus present.
[1:58:27]
Perks, my apologies. Aaron Perks.
[1:58:29]
Following Miss Perks is Anan Patel.
[1:58:32]
Okay.
[1:58:33]
» Hello, I'm Aaron Perks, a resident and
[1:58:34]
taxpayer in the 76110 zip code of
[1:58:37]
Mistletoe Heights. I'm here today to
[1:58:39]
share concerns about the proposed
[1:58:40]
closures of early voting locations.
[1:58:43]
Under this plan, residents of Mistletoe
[1:58:45]
Heights, Berkeley, Tinglewood, Overton
[1:58:46]
Park, Monaceel, Crestwood, and many more
[1:58:48]
would lose access to long-standing
[1:58:50]
voting sites like Southside Community
[1:58:52]
Center, TCU, and Health Science Center.
[1:58:55]
Leaving only the downtown courthouse,
[1:58:56]
which is harder to reach and navigate,
[1:58:58]
tens of thousands of residents would be
[1:59:00]
funneled into one location. If this is
[1:59:03]
about efficiency, why aren't reductions
[1:59:05]
distributed evenly across the county?
[1:59:07]
Central Fort Worth and historic black
[1:59:09]
and Hispanic neighborhoods would be
[1:59:11]
disproportionately impacted while other
[1:59:13]
areas are left untouched. What steps
[1:59:15]
will this court take to ensure that
[1:59:17]
these cuts don't unfairly burden some
[1:59:19]
communities over others? Trust in our
[1:59:21]
system depends on every voter having
[1:59:23]
equal unburdened access to the right to
[1:59:25]
vote. Thank you very much.
[1:59:27]
» Thank you. Uh is Anand Patel present?
[1:59:32]
Anand Anand. Uh, next, Loretta Hardman.
[1:59:41]
Following Miss Hardman, we have Ivonne
[1:59:43]
Thompson.
[1:59:44]
» Good morning.
[1:59:45]
» Good morning.
[1:59:46]
» I am your lead for KO. I would just like
[1:59:49]
to say real quick, KO is a welloiled
[1:59:51]
machine. We're efficient, professional,
[1:59:54]
and if you vote there one time, you'll
[1:59:58]
come back. If you come in with a
[2:00:00]
problem, I'm going to make sure you have
[2:00:02]
a solution. That's my promise.
[2:00:05]
Commissioner RmIrez, thank you for
[2:00:07]
recognizing Kamo. It's needed. Uh,
[2:00:10]
Commissioner Krauss, is that right?
[2:00:12]
Happy birthday.
[2:00:15]
That's it.
[2:00:18]
Uh, Ivon Thompson. It's Ivon Thompson
[2:00:21]
present.
[2:00:24]
All right. Peter Irvin.
[2:00:28]
Uh, Ivon Thompson. I'll call again. Um,
[2:00:32]
following Mr. Irvin. We have Aisha
[2:00:34]
Hassan.
[2:00:37]
» My name is Peter Irvin. I have been a
[2:00:38]
resident of Tarant County for four
[2:00:41]
years. I urge no demand the court reject
[2:00:44]
the proposed early voting and election
[2:00:46]
day polling locations for the November
[2:00:48]
4th, 2025 joint special and
[2:00:50]
constitutional amendment election.
[2:00:52]
Furthermore, it appears that at least
[2:00:54]
three members of the commissioner's
[2:00:56]
court have forgotten our founding
[2:00:57]
father's position on petty tyranny. To
[2:01:00]
this end, I will remind you that when in
[2:01:02]
the course of human events, it becomes
[2:01:04]
necessary for one people to dissolve the
[2:01:06]
political bands which have connected
[2:01:08]
them with another, and to assume the
[2:01:10]
powers of the earth, the separate and
[2:01:12]
equal station to which the laws of
[2:01:14]
nature and of nature's God entitled them
[2:01:16]
a decent respect to the opinions of
[2:01:18]
mankind requires that they should
[2:01:20]
declare the cause which impel them to
[2:01:22]
the separation. We hold these truths to
[2:01:24]
be self-evident that all men are created
[2:01:26]
equal, that they are endowed by their
[2:01:28]
creator with certain unalienable rights,
[2:01:30]
that among these are life, liberty, and
[2:01:32]
the pursuit of happiness. That to secure
[2:01:35]
these rights, governments are instituted
[2:01:37]
among men.
[2:01:38]
» Thank you, sir. Next, we have Aisha
[2:01:41]
Hassan. Following Miss Hassan, we have
[2:01:42]
Reed Bills.
[2:01:45]
» Good morning. My name is Aisha Hassan
[2:01:47]
and I live in North Fort Worth in
[2:01:48]
precinct 4. I'm speaking in opposition
[2:01:51]
to the consideration to approve early
[2:01:52]
voting in election day polling locations
[2:01:55]
for the November 4th, 2025 election. My
[2:01:58]
message today is to you, Commissioner
[2:02:00]
Manny Ramirez.
[2:02:02]
I am appalled at the idea of shutting
[2:02:04]
down so many early voting election day
[2:02:06]
polling locations. This is a first class
[2:02:10]
example of voter suppression and you
[2:02:14]
know it is.
[2:02:16]
This proposal disproportionately impacts
[2:02:18]
people of color and their right to
[2:02:20]
accessible voting locations. You cannot
[2:02:22]
possibly stand for this. Um you cannot
[2:02:25]
possibly stand for this proposal with
[2:02:27]
goodwill and face the people you sought
[2:02:29]
to represent just like me knowing you
[2:02:32]
are actively suppressing votes. This
[2:02:34]
proposal is a disgrace and I ask you as
[2:02:37]
a citizen in your precinct to please
[2:02:39]
stand on the right side of history and
[2:02:41]
not vote for this. Thank you.
[2:02:44]
» Thank you. Reed Bills present. Following
[2:02:46]
Miss Bills, we have Libby Willis.
[2:02:59]
Judge O'Hare and his Republican cohorts
[2:03:02]
are again trying to suppress voting in
[2:03:05]
Tarant County by drastically cutting the
[2:03:08]
number of polling locations, especially
[2:03:11]
in places where people of color and
[2:03:14]
college students usually vote. I would
[2:03:17]
like to address the funding implications
[2:03:19]
of this proposal.
[2:03:22]
The court
[2:03:24]
communication indicates
[2:03:28]
there is no fiscal impact.
[2:03:33]
Apparently no fiscal impact study was
[2:03:37]
conducted.
[2:03:40]
So I assume that means there is no
[2:03:42]
costsaving to reducing the number of
[2:03:45]
locations by half. If that is the case,
[2:03:49]
that leaves only political motiv
[2:03:53]
motivation for this proposal.
[2:03:56]
I urge you to vote against this blatant
[2:03:58]
act of voter suppression.
[2:04:01]
» Follow. Is Miss Willis present? Libby
[2:04:03]
Willis?
[2:04:06]
Libby Willis.
[2:04:08]
Uh next, uh Anna or Anna Kamarena.
[2:04:13]
Miss Kamarena present. Lydia Bean.
[2:04:19]
Uh, following Miss Bean, we will have
[2:04:21]
Rita Adam.
[2:04:27]
My name is Lydia Bean. I'm the chair of
[2:04:29]
the Broadway Baptist Justice Committee
[2:04:31]
and one of the founders of the Tarant
[2:04:34]
County Faith and Justice Coalition. I'm
[2:04:36]
speaking here today to ask you to not
[2:04:38]
adopt this proposal to close polling
[2:04:41]
locations which are disproportionately
[2:04:43]
in black and Latino and working-class
[2:04:44]
neighborhoods. And I want to remind you
[2:04:47]
that the right to vote is not a
[2:04:49]
suggestion and it shouldn't depend on
[2:04:51]
the color of your skin or the
[2:04:53]
neighborhood where you live. And when
[2:04:55]
you close polling locations, you make it
[2:04:57]
very expensive and timeconuming for
[2:04:59]
working people to vote. You force people
[2:05:02]
to take off work, to take a bus across
[2:05:04]
town, to walk two and a half hours to
[2:05:08]
the nearest because that's how long it
[2:05:09]
takes to walk 5 miles in Tarant County.
[2:05:13]
So creating a pole tax is a violation of
[2:05:16]
people's voting rights. Please
[2:05:17]
reconsider this list, particularly
[2:05:20]
focusing on historic neighborhoods of
[2:05:21]
color, and make sure that everyone has a
[2:05:23]
polling location where they can easily
[2:05:25]
and conveniently vote without having to
[2:05:27]
take off work, hire a babysitter. Thank
[2:05:29]
you. Is Rita Adam present?
[2:05:33]
Rita Adam.
[2:05:35]
Uh Alexandria Williams.
[2:05:39]
Following Miss Williams, we have Toby
[2:05:41]
Laws.
[2:05:43]
Hello. I am a Terry County resident,
[2:05:46]
college student, and precinct chair 4179
[2:05:49]
where early voting will be almost
[2:05:51]
non-existent for us. Um our Texas
[2:05:53]
Constitution,
[2:05:55]
actually, no, I'm sorry. The study by
[2:05:57]
Enrico Canton shows that a quarter mile
[2:05:59]
increase in travel distance can cause
[2:06:00]
voter turnout to drop by 5%. You're
[2:06:03]
considering cutting more than 100
[2:06:04]
polling places. So, what do you think
[2:06:06]
that difference will make? Um, fewer
[2:06:09]
sites means longer lines, lower turnout.
[2:06:11]
It'll lead to confusion, more mistrust
[2:06:14]
and unnecessary boundaries in our
[2:06:16]
government. This means seniors,
[2:06:18]
students, and families without reliable
[2:06:20]
transportation will be unfairly
[2:06:21]
burdened. This is not efficient. This is
[2:06:23]
voter suppression. These changes will
[2:06:25]
fall the hardest on underserved
[2:06:27]
communities, young people, and working
[2:06:29]
families. And at a time when trust in
[2:06:31]
elections is already fragile, cutting
[2:06:33]
polling places is a direct spit in the
[2:06:35]
face of democracy.
[2:06:37]
Voting is a fundamental part of
[2:06:39]
democracy and these decisions should
[2:06:42]
expand access, not restrict it.
[2:06:44]
» Thank you.
[2:06:45]
» Thank you.
[2:06:46]
» Uh Rita Adam, is Rita Adam present? I
[2:06:48]
didn't read that one very long. Toby LS
[2:06:53]
following Mr. LS is David Richardson.
[2:07:01]
» I too uh disagree with
[2:07:04]
this proposal to remove many polling
[2:07:08]
locations
[2:07:10]
all across the land. People feel as
[2:07:14]
though democracy is very much fleeting
[2:07:18]
and representation is not
[2:07:22]
reflective of the population and those
[2:07:26]
entrusted
[2:07:27]
to serve the public
[2:07:30]
often do not.
[2:07:33]
It is very disheartening
[2:07:36]
uh for this to even be proposed.
[2:07:39]
I admit some appreciation for Mr.
[2:07:43]
Ramirez for at least trying to be
[2:07:47]
somewhat objective about some things and
[2:07:51]
encourage you all to
[2:07:54]
not necessarily vote on this, gather
[2:07:57]
more detail and truly serve Tarant
[2:07:59]
County.
[2:08:02]
Following Mr. Richardson. We have Laura
[2:08:04]
Leman.
[2:08:11]
Thank you.
[2:08:13]
We've been drowned in facts and reason
[2:08:18]
and enlightenment thinking today. I have
[2:08:21]
too much to say for my minute. So, I'm
[2:08:23]
going to tell you a story.
[2:08:26]
I want to tell you about my neighbor's
[2:08:28]
grandmother.
[2:08:29]
She lives out past the gravel road where
[2:08:33]
the mailbox leans like an old man in the
[2:08:35]
wind.
[2:08:37]
She's voted in every election since
[2:08:39]
1952.
[2:08:42]
Rain, shine, or Texas heat.
[2:08:49]
Last year, she took two buses and
[2:08:52]
arrived from a church volunteer to reach
[2:08:54]
her polling place.
[2:08:57]
If we cut locations in half, she won't
[2:08:59]
make it.
[2:09:02]
And if she doesn't vote,
[2:09:04]
something sacred goes quiet.
[2:09:08]
Not just her voice, but the memory of
[2:09:11]
every generation she carried with her in
[2:09:14]
that ballot box. Am I done?
[2:09:17]
» Yes, sir. I'm assuming that's what that
[2:09:19]
beep was. Okay. Um
[2:09:22]
All right. Laura Leman is next.
[2:09:24]
Following Miss Leman, we have Stacy
[2:09:26]
Melo.
[2:09:31]
» Good morning. Yes, I'm Laura. Well, here
[2:09:34]
we go again. How to cheat and steal to
[2:09:36]
keep power by suppressing voting
[2:09:38]
opportunities in Tarant County. Leading
[2:09:40]
this charge, Judge O'Hare, Commissioner
[2:09:42]
Ramirez, and Krauss for the November 4th
[2:09:45]
special election. And these three men
[2:09:47]
shamelessly want to slash over 100
[2:09:49]
polling locations, cutting election day
[2:09:51]
sites from 349 down to just 214.
[2:09:55]
People are not stupid. While you claim
[2:09:57]
this is about efficiency, we all know
[2:09:59]
it's really about making voting harder.
[2:10:01]
Just like when you tried to close
[2:10:02]
college polling locations last year and
[2:10:05]
just like you racially gerrymandered the
[2:10:06]
county commissioner precincts.
[2:10:08]
Commissioner Ramirez, remember when you
[2:10:10]
said add more sites, don't take any away
[2:10:13]
regarding the college polling locations
[2:10:15]
debacle. Stealing power by cheating
[2:10:18]
voters lacks morality and it it flies in
[2:10:22]
the face of biblical teachings. Proverb
[2:10:24]
11, the Lord hates anyone who cheats,
[2:10:27]
but he likes everyone who is honest.
[2:10:30]
We've had enough of your terrible
[2:10:31]
policies. Voters are already what your
[2:10:34]
actions are harmful. Thank you,
[2:10:35]
» Stacy Melo. Stacy Melo present.
[2:10:42]
All right. Following Miss Melo, we have
[2:10:43]
Karen Gryom.
[2:10:50]
Well, well, well. Here we are again
[2:10:52]
fighting for our right to vote. I'm not
[2:10:56]
surprised though, as it seems like the
[2:10:58]
only thing that y'all are really good
[2:10:59]
for is suppressing people's right to
[2:11:01]
vote. So, congrats on that. Um, listen,
[2:11:05]
I'm not going to sit here and beg y'all
[2:11:06]
to do what's right, which is voting
[2:11:09]
against this voting list. You already
[2:11:11]
know that that's the right thing to do.
[2:11:14]
Uh, but I also know that y'all don't
[2:11:15]
really care what your constituents have
[2:11:18]
to say. You didn't care when you
[2:11:20]
racially gerrymandered our precinct maps
[2:11:23]
and you don't really care now. Um, so
[2:11:25]
really what I just want youall to be
[2:11:26]
aware of is that we know that the reason
[2:11:28]
that you're doing this is because you're
[2:11:30]
scared. You're scared of the reckoning
[2:11:32]
that is coming for you in 2026.
[2:11:35]
And you should be because we every every
[2:11:39]
single time that y'all try to do this BS
[2:11:42]
of trying to restrict our right to vote,
[2:11:44]
it just lights a fire under us. So I
[2:11:47]
hope that you are scared because we are
[2:11:49]
coming for your seats in 2026.
[2:11:51]
» Thank you.
[2:11:52]
» Thank you. All right,
[2:11:53]
» Miss Gryom. Is Miss Gryom present?
[2:11:57]
Karen Gryom.
[2:12:00]
All right. Following Miss Gryom or I
[2:12:02]
guess not following but June Naylor
[2:12:05]
Harris.
[2:12:08]
Approximately how many people are still
[2:12:09]
out there? Deputy if you had to guess.
[2:12:16]
Okay. Uh June Naylor Harris.
[2:12:20]
June Naylor Harris present.
[2:12:24]
Jennifer MSUS.
[2:12:27]
Jennifer MSAS present.
[2:12:30]
Chandler, do we have uh you said there's
[2:12:32]
speakers out there, so I'm assuming
[2:12:34]
they're right outside those two doors.
[2:12:36]
Hear it. I should see them pop up.
[2:12:38]
» What I've been told by staff is we're
[2:12:39]
trying to call names ahead of time out
[2:12:40]
there to have them lined up if they are
[2:12:42]
sitting up.
[2:12:42]
» All right. Jennifer MSAS,
[2:12:47]
uh Charles Bills,
[2:12:51]
following Mr. bills is Leavon Cochril.
[2:12:57]
» I want to reiterate something that Mr.
[2:12:59]
Miles said about uh that the voters when
[2:13:02]
they come they want a place that they
[2:13:04]
always know they can go to vote and when
[2:13:07]
you close something that's been around
[2:13:09]
like Komo Center has always been open
[2:13:11]
for voting and have it suddenly not be
[2:13:14]
available to voting that that just
[2:13:16]
causes way too much stress and
[2:13:18]
confusion. You know, there's not
[2:13:20]
anything buddy saying, "No, now you have
[2:13:22]
to go three miles away." There's just
[2:13:24]
nothing. There's just no voting there,
[2:13:26]
and that's just not acceptable.
[2:13:29]
Uh, Miss Cochril, following Miss Cochril
[2:13:32]
is Wesie Anderson, Jr.
[2:13:39]
Being unpopular is a problem. Better
[2:13:42]
lost Taran County by only 24,319
[2:13:46]
votes. Judge O'Hare, you won by 34,9 69
[2:13:50]
votes and Commissioner Ramirez, you won
[2:13:52]
by 23,628.
[2:13:55]
But 38,000 registered Democrats who live
[2:13:58]
on the north side did not vote.
[2:14:01]
Cutting $81 million to JPS, ICE raids,
[2:14:05]
locking up Nicole Collier, Taran County,
[2:14:07]
Trump's approval rating is 38% and
[2:14:10]
falling. Republics are unpopular.
[2:14:12]
Hurting people is unpopular. Cutting
[2:14:14]
polling places is unpopular.
[2:14:17]
and you work basically one day a month
[2:14:20]
for a 220,000 plus salary.
[2:14:24]
I laugh because you can't stop
[2:14:26]
publicity, the doortodoor explainers,
[2:14:28]
the continuous phone calls to the
[2:14:29]
Democratic headquarters, our thousands
[2:14:32]
of volunteer forms filled out. You can't
[2:14:35]
calm the anxiety in Tarant County
[2:14:37]
because you created it.
[2:14:39]
» Thank you.
[2:14:39]
» You awoke a low blood sugar giant.
[2:14:42]
» Please step away from the microphone.
[2:14:45]
Um Wesie Anderson.
[2:14:49]
Mr. Anderson.
[2:14:50]
» Okay. Following Mr. Anderson is Kristen
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Hartwell.
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» Well, good afternoon. Afternoon,
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» Texas. Been here two years. Only thing I
[2:14:59]
heard since I've been here is voter
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suppression. My question for you on the
[2:15:04]
redistricting is how does it affect you
[2:15:07]
three as far as your neighborhoods
[2:15:11]
polling closes? How does it affect you
[2:15:13]
three people?
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» It's not It's not a Q&A. Use your minute
[2:15:20]
however you choose.
[2:15:21]
» Okay. Well, everybody's complaining
[2:15:23]
about voters being suppressed. I don't
[2:15:25]
hear anybody on your side of town say
[2:15:26]
y'all losing voters.
[2:15:32]
It's crickets.
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[Music]
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» Anything else?
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» That is all, sir. I got 15 seconds
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» Not to just stand there and do nothing.
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So, thank you, sir. No problem.
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» Miss Hartwell is next.
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» It doesn't affect their districts.
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Redistricting didn't affect their
[2:15:50]
district.
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» Commissioner Simmons, you just brought
[2:15:51]
up that one of my polling places was
[2:15:53]
closed. It was in one of the top 10
[2:15:54]
polling places in all of Tarant County.
[2:15:56]
So, I wouldn't say that's exactly true.
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» Miss Miss Hartwell, is Miss Hartwell
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present?
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Jerry Michael Stein.
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Following Mr. Stein is Donna Reagan.
[2:16:15]
» Jerry Stein, precinct number one. Uh,
[2:16:19]
Commissioner Miles summarized most of my
[2:16:21]
major points. I just the only original
[2:16:23]
thought I could add here is that there
[2:16:24]
are consequences for your actions and
[2:16:26]
I'd like you to think about that dearly.
[2:16:29]
When you cut off the ability to pe for
[2:16:31]
people to express their views
[2:16:33]
peacefully, then you have people coming
[2:16:36]
out at a meeting like this. Then you
[2:16:37]
have them go having large rallies at
[2:16:40]
Barnett Park. After that, there are less
[2:16:42]
than peaceful actions and and that's
[2:16:45]
something that concerns me and should
[2:16:46]
concern you. Don't cut off people's
[2:16:49]
peaceful expression of their views.
[2:16:51]
Thank you.
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» Thank you. Are you Miss Hartwell? Are
[2:16:55]
you Miss Reagan? Miss Reagan.
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Following Miss Reagan, we have Andrew
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Fizer.
[2:17:04]
» Good morning. My name is Donna Reagan
[2:17:05]
and it's my first time to appear here.
[2:17:08]
Um, I understand it's customary to
[2:17:11]
address the court as your honors.
[2:17:13]
However,
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the only honor I've picked up on here is
[2:17:17]
honor among thieves. Thieves who are
[2:17:20]
trying to steal the power of we the
[2:17:21]
people. While voter suppression is no
[2:17:26]
laughing matter, it seems to be the
[2:17:27]
running gag of this court.
[2:17:29]
Instead of fulfilling your duty to
[2:17:31]
safeguard fair elections, you're focused
[2:17:33]
on delivering the same sad punchlines
[2:17:35]
over and over. Play party politics,
[2:17:37]
disenfranchise voters, target
[2:17:39]
communities of color. When officials
[2:17:42]
manipulate who gets to vote, who gets
[2:17:44]
streamline of a process, and who gets
[2:17:46]
stuck at the back of the line, it's not
[2:17:48]
honorable. It's cowardly.
[2:17:50]
It's fixing the game before it's played
[2:17:53]
just so you don't have to face a fair
[2:17:54]
fight. And if you think racism is hidden
[2:17:57]
by bureaucratical language, think again.
[2:17:59]
Denying minority groups their voice
[2:18:01]
isn't just a bad joke, it's the oldest,
[2:18:03]
ugliest reoccurring joke in American
[2:18:05]
history.
[2:18:05]
» Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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» Andrew Fizer present. Andrew Fizer
[2:18:10]
Fiser.
[2:18:12]
Uh
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Destin or Destiny Denini.
[2:18:18]
Destiny.
[2:18:22]
Following Miss Denini is Katherine Cano.
[2:18:32]
I was born and raised in Fort Worth. I
[2:18:34]
live in Ridgely Hills now with my
[2:18:36]
husband where we're raising our
[2:18:37]
beautiful little girl. I am a Texan. I
[2:18:41]
get when I get excited, my eye sounds
[2:18:43]
get longer. If I see a need, I scream
[2:18:46]
and I help. I scream at the TV just like
[2:18:50]
everyone else when the game is on. As a
[2:18:53]
Texan, if I make a mistake, I accept
[2:18:55]
accountability and make amends when
[2:18:57]
necessary. If I lose, though I may not
[2:19:00]
be happy about it, I can shake my
[2:19:02]
opponent's hand and say, "Good game."
[2:19:06]
And when I have a problem with someone
[2:19:08]
as a Texan, I can look them in the eye
[2:19:10]
and say, "So, I have a problem with
[2:19:13]
you."
[2:19:15]
I ask that if polling places are being
[2:19:18]
added for the November 4th elections,
[2:19:21]
current polling places not be removed.
[2:19:24]
To be a part of a team, you earn your
[2:19:26]
spot. As repres as representatives of
[2:19:29]
this county, it is your job to rise to
[2:19:31]
the occasion and meet the needs of all
[2:19:33]
your constituents.
[2:19:34]
» Thank you. Is Miss Kano present?
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Gary McMatterin
[2:19:45]
Gary Mcmadaran Gary McMatterin
[2:19:50]
Steve Christian
[2:19:54]
following Mr. Christian Sad Dumis
[2:19:59]
Thank you. I'm a lifelong resident of
[2:20:02]
Fort Worth um precinct 4 live in
[2:20:05]
precinct 4. Thank you uh Commissioner
[2:20:08]
Miles for everything you said and a lot
[2:20:10]
of others saved me some time in my one
[2:20:12]
minute. Um the main thing that I got
[2:20:15]
from the presentation from staff today
[2:20:17]
was we have low voter turnout and so the
[2:20:21]
answer to that is to cut polling places.
[2:20:26]
What that something doesn't seem right
[2:20:28]
with that to me. Um but um I'm
[2:20:32]
particularly
[2:20:34]
everyone else has spoken eloquently
[2:20:35]
about the other reasons for this. I'll
[2:20:39]
speak for the college students and the
[2:20:41]
fact that eliminating all polling places
[2:20:44]
from colleges and universities is
[2:20:47]
sending them a message that their voices
[2:20:49]
are not valued and it discourages civic
[2:20:52]
engagement for our next generation of
[2:20:54]
leaders which I can hardly wait for them
[2:20:56]
to get here.
[2:20:58]
In a healthy democracy. In a healthy
[2:21:00]
democracy. Thank you, sir. We should be
[2:21:02]
working to expand access.
[2:21:04]
» Thank you, sir.
[2:21:05]
» Thank you.
[2:21:06]
» Are you Miss Dumis?
[2:21:09]
» No. Did I call your name?
[2:21:11]
» Okay. Please state your name for us.
[2:21:15]
» Good afternoon, Shade Dumas.
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I want to speak against reducing polling
[2:21:20]
locations because saving a little over a
[2:21:23]
million dollars are meeting the minimum
[2:21:25]
requirement under the Springer bill does
[2:21:27]
not outweigh the harm of
[2:21:29]
disenfranchising
[2:21:31]
tens of thousands of voters. Democracy
[2:21:34]
demands more than the bare minimum. It
[2:21:36]
demands fairness and full access.
[2:21:39]
Polling locations are not simply numbers
[2:21:41]
on a budget sheet. Each site represents
[2:21:45]
real people, real communities, and their
[2:21:48]
voices matter. Their votes matter. And
[2:21:52]
honestly, voting should not depend on
[2:21:55]
whether a community has the financial
[2:21:56]
resources to buy its way into democracy.
[2:22:00]
That in itself undermines the principle
[2:22:02]
of equal access. It erodess trust and it
[2:22:05]
weakens our democracy. So, I urge you
[2:22:07]
all to reject reducing polling
[2:22:10]
locations. It is time to expand access
[2:22:12]
to the ballot box, not to reduce it.
[2:22:15]
Thank you.
[2:22:15]
» Thank you, S Dumis.
[2:22:18]
» That was me.
[2:22:18]
» Oh,
[2:22:21]
Kelly Tuful.
[2:22:29]
Okay. Kelly Tuful.
[2:22:31]
TOEFL.
[2:22:33]
Allan Loba.
[2:22:38]
Callie Tuful. All right, Mr. Loba,
[2:22:41]
following Mr. Loba is Jessica Irvin.
[2:22:46]
» Thank you so much. With all due respect
[2:22:48]
to my good friend Stella, I thought the
[2:22:50]
quote was, "It's not our job to make
[2:22:52]
voting easier." I'd love to debate that
[2:22:54]
when we have more than a minute, but I
[2:22:56]
only have a minute. So, I would tell you
[2:22:58]
that hardwired into your job
[2:23:00]
descriptions, woven into the fabric of
[2:23:02]
your calling is to make life better for
[2:23:06]
every resident in Tarant County.
[2:23:10]
» Serve every resident of Tarant County,
[2:23:12]
make their lives better. All due
[2:23:14]
respect, I love what you've said to us.
[2:23:17]
You're my representative on this
[2:23:19]
council. I've heard two phrases, bare
[2:23:22]
minimum, 10 mile radius. you can close
[2:23:27]
20 of the closest uh polling places near
[2:23:31]
my house. I'll get in my car. I'll
[2:23:34]
Google where I need to go. I'll get
[2:23:36]
there. But making somebody walk 9 and a
[2:23:39]
half miles to a polling place because
[2:23:42]
they have limited resources, limited
[2:23:44]
time, limited access to transportation.
[2:23:47]
» Thank you, sir.
[2:23:48]
» Polling tax.
[2:23:49]
» Mr. Irvin or Mrs. Irvin, I'm sorry.
[2:23:52]
Jessica Irvin, sir. Jessica Urban
[2:24:02]
Libertad Heredia
[2:24:06]
following Miss Heredia is Richard Perez.
[2:24:21]
Um, hi. My statements aren't very
[2:24:24]
polished because like a lot of people, I
[2:24:25]
was blindsided by, you know, this map
[2:24:27]
that came out with the suggested polling
[2:24:29]
location closures. And as I was sitting
[2:24:31]
here listening to uh members of this
[2:24:33]
court, I realized that a lot of you guys
[2:24:35]
were also blindsided. And I commend uh
[2:24:38]
the commissioners from precincts 1, 2,
[2:24:40]
and four for voicing their concerns and
[2:24:41]
standing on their principles. Um I
[2:24:46]
I suppose I am echoing the sentiment of
[2:24:48]
a lot of people here in saying that
[2:24:50]
adding additional hurdles uh in response
[2:24:53]
to low voter turnout is the wrong
[2:24:55]
approach to take. Um it's a degradation
[2:24:57]
of our democratic institutions and that
[2:25:00]
hurts everybody regardless of our
[2:25:02]
personal beliefs. Even if you might feel
[2:25:04]
like you're winning something,
[2:25:05]
ultimately we all lose if we allow this
[2:25:07]
to happen. and respectfully contrato um
[2:25:11]
if we are concerned about budget I would
[2:25:13]
suggest you look at your taxpayer funded
[2:25:16]
salaries before cutting access to voting
[2:25:19]
locations respectfully thank you
[2:25:22]
» Is Mr. Richard Perez here all right
[2:25:24]
following Mr. Perez. We have Deborah
[2:25:26]
Kratkkey.
[2:25:28]
[Music]
[2:25:30]
» I'm Richard Perez and I live in District
[2:25:34]
2 near the historic stocky darts and I
[2:25:37]
stand firm with District 2 Councilman
[2:25:40]
Carlos Flores and District 11
[2:25:42]
Councilwoman Janette Martinez as they
[2:25:45]
both oppose this proposal. They've
[2:25:47]
released statements as of yesterday. I
[2:25:51]
live in the historic area of Fort Worth
[2:25:54]
near the stockyards. I also live four
[2:25:56]
blocks from a infamous historic building
[2:25:58]
called the Ellis Picon factory. We know
[2:26:01]
the initial purpose of that building was
[2:26:04]
the Fort Worth Claver at the beginning
[2:26:06]
of the 20th century and that was used to
[2:26:09]
intimidate people in North Side, black
[2:26:12]
and brown people, people of diversity.
[2:26:16]
They were known for suppression of
[2:26:17]
voting.
[2:26:19]
Uh they were known for their
[2:26:21]
intimidation.
[2:26:23]
I would hate to see that our great Fort
[2:26:25]
Worth and I my family's been here 80
[2:26:27]
years. I'd hate to see them.
[2:26:31]
» Thank you, sir.
[2:26:32]
» Thank you.
[2:26:33]
» Following Miss Katr, we have Amy Super.
[2:26:38]
» Yes, Debbie Katr here. Um in listening
[2:26:41]
to the other comments, I'm not going to
[2:26:42]
add what's already been said, but there
[2:26:44]
are two things that concerned me. And
[2:26:46]
one of them was the fact when you asked
[2:26:48]
the electeduh the elections official if
[2:26:50]
the amendments were the only thing on
[2:26:52]
the ballot and he said yes. That's not
[2:26:54]
true. Actually Senate uh Senate seat
[2:26:57]
that's currently held by Kelly. Uh
[2:26:59]
» Yeah, I said that.
[2:27:01]
» There you go. Okay. Then the last thing
[2:27:03]
I'm going to say is in 1873 there was a
[2:27:07]
Dallas resident who said that Fort Worth
[2:27:10]
was very much like a sleeping panther.
[2:27:13]
And the one thing I can promise you is
[2:27:15]
that panther has awoken and we will see
[2:27:18]
you at the ballot box. Uh Amy Super
[2:27:22]
following Miss Super Stanley Johnson.
[2:27:27]
[Music]
[2:27:31]
» Facts matter. All voters still have the
[2:27:34]
same 12 days, 121 hours plus election
[2:27:37]
day, another 12 hours to cast their
[2:27:39]
votes. Nothing changes with that. That's
[2:27:41]
not voter suppression. I analyzed the
[2:27:44]
data. I told Commissioner Simmons how to
[2:27:45]
analyze the data. Guess she didn't want
[2:27:47]
to do that. It clearly shows us where
[2:27:49]
people want to go to vote and which
[2:27:51]
places they prefer not to choose to vote
[2:27:53]
at. This proposed plan reflects that. Uh
[2:27:57]
the proposed list is a direct reflection
[2:27:59]
of that data. Here's a fun fact. 202021
[2:28:02]
um 48 EV sites voter turnout 8.29. 2023
[2:28:07]
you took away four
[2:28:09]
voter turnout went up not down. Okay. Do
[2:28:15]
do you get that? Okay. I'd remind you
[2:28:17]
once again of your responsibility. Take
[2:28:18]
a more pragmatic approach when making
[2:28:20]
decisions that involve how our tax
[2:28:21]
dollars are spent. Million dollars would
[2:28:23]
cover your salary. So that's a savings I
[2:28:25]
would think is good. I do recommend also
[2:28:27]
to get KO back. Great parking and one of
[2:28:29]
the best crew sites in Karent County.
[2:28:32]
» Thank you. Is Mr. Johnson present?
[2:28:35]
Stanley Johnson. Following Mr. Johnson,
[2:28:38]
we have Nidia Cardinis.
[2:28:42]
» I have a rhetorical question for the
[2:28:44]
judge and the election administrator.
[2:28:47]
Uh, but I want to preface it by this uh
[2:28:51]
quote uh from our uh highly uh respected
[2:28:56]
previous election administrator in his
[2:28:58]
protest uh uh resignation letter. Judge
[2:29:02]
O'Hare, my formula to administer a
[2:29:04]
quality, transparent election stands on
[2:29:07]
respect and zero politics. Compromising
[2:29:09]
on these values is not an option for me.
[2:29:11]
You made it clear in our last meeting
[2:29:13]
that your formula is different. Thus, my
[2:29:15]
decision to leave. I wish you the best.
[2:29:17]
Taran County deserves that you find
[2:29:19]
success. And so, my question is, u what
[2:29:23]
is your formula?
[2:29:25]
um we're only going to save in a million
[2:29:27]
dollars, I believe 11/10enth of a
[2:29:30]
percent
[2:29:32]
and it's not addressing the problem. The
[2:29:35]
problem is low turnout, not too many
[2:29:38]
voting places.
[2:29:40]
» Thank you.
[2:29:41]
» Thank you. Uh following, do we have Miss
[2:29:43]
Cardinis present? Nidia Cardinus.
[2:29:45]
Following Miss Cardinis, we have Drew
[2:29:47]
Brown.
[2:29:51]
Hello, my name is Nia Cardinas and I
[2:29:53]
want to know why we have a bare minimum
[2:29:54]
mindset about the most foundational
[2:29:56]
principle of democracy which is the
[2:29:58]
right to vote. And coming into this
[2:30:00]
meeting, I tried to read all the news I
[2:30:02]
could find about it. And all of them
[2:30:04]
said that there was no comment on your
[2:30:05]
behalf, judge. And I was kind of like,
[2:30:07]
why is he not saying anything about why,
[2:30:09]
you know, he's advocating for this? And
[2:30:11]
I realized coming into this meeting is
[2:30:12]
because you barely just got the
[2:30:13]
information. So, how could you feel
[2:30:15]
comfortable making such a significant
[2:30:18]
decision about people's access to voting
[2:30:20]
with what sounds like less than a week
[2:30:22]
of information? And so, I'm very
[2:30:25]
concerned about how every time I come to
[2:30:27]
this court, every decision is being made
[2:30:28]
with little transparency, little
[2:30:31]
creative thinking. And if this is
[2:30:33]
financial, then I would encourage us to
[2:30:35]
ask the public interest law firm for a
[2:30:37]
$250,000 refund um that we're paying
[2:30:40]
them to fight the lawsuit against
[2:30:42]
redistricting. um and we can fund what
[2:30:44]
was it 20 23 of the sites based on the
[2:30:47]
um administrator's budget of 10,600 um
[2:30:51]
for an early voting site. So let's do
[2:30:53]
that instead.
[2:30:54]
» Is Drew Brown present
[2:30:56]
following Mr. Brown? We have Becky Don.
[2:31:01]
» Good morning.
[2:31:02]
» Good morning,
[2:31:02]
» Mr. Brooks. You used to be my
[2:31:04]
commissioner. I'm sorry you're not. I
[2:31:07]
voted for you.
[2:31:08]
» Uh and uh hi. You're my new
[2:31:12]
commissioner. I didn't vote for you. I
[2:31:13]
hope I don't get arrested.
[2:31:15]
So, uh, and M. County Judge, uh, I had
[2:31:20]
the opportunity to vote for you, but I
[2:31:22]
made a different decision because that's
[2:31:24]
my rights and voting. So, you represent
[2:31:26]
the whole county. So, uh,
[2:31:30]
and Commissioner Brooks, so all you said
[2:31:32]
was facts, not opinion. So, uh, what
[2:31:35]
we've got here is a bait and switch.
[2:31:38]
They want to make that decision today.
[2:31:40]
table the decision. What they're going
[2:31:42]
to do is M commissioner Meris and
[2:31:46]
Commissioner Krauss, they're going to
[2:31:47]
throw a couple of bones over here. We're
[2:31:48]
going to give you we're going to give
[2:31:50]
you com. We're going to give you this
[2:31:51]
that that vote on. We're done. And think
[2:31:54]
that they're heroes. Wrong.
[2:31:57]
» Is Becky Don present?
[2:31:59]
» Following Mr. Dawn, we have Peyton
[2:32:01]
Bullis.
[2:32:05]
[Music]
[2:32:07]
Some people imagine themselves as tasked
[2:32:10]
by God to be liberators and protectors
[2:32:12]
of purity and virtue. There are those of
[2:32:15]
us who disagree and think they are
[2:32:17]
merely dominators and oppressors of
[2:32:20]
other people. They use the language of
[2:32:23]
spiritual warfare to scapegoat out
[2:32:25]
outsiders by implying they are evil or
[2:32:27]
inferior beings. These so-called
[2:32:30]
liberators dismiss others as undeserving
[2:32:32]
of the civil rights of our constitution,
[2:32:35]
demeaning them by labeling them as
[2:32:37]
freeloaders, immoral or criminals.
[2:32:42]
Local and federal agents are throwing
[2:32:44]
innocent people in jail, often knowing
[2:32:46]
they have not committed a crime. The
[2:32:48]
color of their skin is their sin.
[2:32:51]
Poverty criminalized when the is
[2:32:53]
criminalized when the homeless are
[2:32:55]
incarcerated. Mental illness needs only
[2:32:57]
to be controlled and often with
[2:32:59]
brutality. When those in power redraw
[2:33:02]
maps, cut polling sites, eliminate early
[2:33:04]
voting. The message is that being sent
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it.
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» Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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» Thanks.
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» Peyton Bullis, present.
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Peyton Bullis.
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Uh Jack Bowen.
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Jack Bowen present. All right. Following
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Mr. Bowen, we have Linda Henry.
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Big word said here today was integrity
[2:33:28]
and integrity related to credibility.
[2:33:31]
And Judge O'Hare, my wife and I were
[2:33:34]
stunned last fall when you said WFA,
[2:33:38]
this is about partisan politics. Talking
[2:33:40]
about redistricting, this is about
[2:33:42]
partisan politics and making sure we
[2:33:44]
have a stronger Republican majority on
[2:33:47]
the court. Not it was right. Not it was
[2:33:50]
fair. Not it was honest. This is about
[2:33:53]
partisan politics. So when we see this
[2:33:56]
kind of cut proposed to places to vote,
[2:33:59]
we see the president saying, "Let's ban
[2:34:01]
mailin voting and we see the
[2:34:04]
legislature, the governor going, it's an
[2:34:06]
emergency. Let's rejerrymander the last
[2:34:09]
gerrymander we did." So we're
[2:34:12]
suspicious. And even before a peaceful
[2:34:16]
rally here in Fort Worth, the chairman
[2:34:17]
of the Republican party said, "Few
[2:34:20]
wellplaced snipers could handle it." And
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if you wonder why Tarant County lacks
[2:34:25]
credit,
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» Thank you sir.
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» There you go.
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» Uh following Miss Hanratty, we have
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Dr. Harold.
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[Music]
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» I object to the 50% reduction in early
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voting polling places and commensurate
[2:34:40]
reduction in the election day voting
[2:34:42]
places. Both of my early voting places,
[2:34:44]
Ko Community Center and TCU, are slated
[2:34:47]
for elimination, though apparently KO
[2:34:50]
may come back in. I guess they found out
[2:34:52]
it wasn't just black voters who voted
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there. Um,
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why are we reducing the number of
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polling places when Taran County is one
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of the fastest growing counties in the
[2:35:03]
country? This appears to be a f
[2:35:05]
furtherance of the county's court's
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mission to disenfranchise Tarant County
[2:35:09]
voters which started with the recently
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recent grossly racial racist
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redistricting that we're all going to
[2:35:16]
pay a huge amount of money for way more
[2:35:19]
than all the voting places you're
[2:35:21]
eliminating. The court says that their
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policies are helping county residents
[2:35:26]
and thus deserve re-election.
[2:35:29]
But but it seems to me that reducing
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polling places means they're afraid of
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us. And of course, the other thing the
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court has done is they reduce
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» Thank you.
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» The meeting places.
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» Uh following Dr. Harold, we have Carla
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Palyus.
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Running fair, accessible elections is
[2:36:04]
one of your highest duties. This
[2:36:07]
proposal to cut early voting in half and
[2:36:10]
to slash election day polling v places
[2:36:13]
will make voting harder for every
[2:36:16]
citizen. The numbers are staggering.
[2:36:19]
These cuts would force more than 8,000
[2:36:22]
voters into each polling place. over
[2:36:25]
five times the national average. MIT
[2:36:28]
research shows that would add more than
[2:36:31]
an hour to wait times. And I have charts
[2:36:34]
here, Chandler, for you to pass out. Um,
[2:36:38]
Tarant County's growth demands more
[2:36:41]
polling places, not fewer. Yet, this
[2:36:44]
plan eliminates
[2:36:47]
college sites and slashes early voting
[2:36:49]
in half. Vote no on this proposal.
[2:36:53]
Making voting harder is never the right
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answer.
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» Right.
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» Is Miss Polyaris present? Carla Palaris.
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Uh Angela Rodriguez Pryin
[2:37:09]
following Miss Pryin. Hollis Kirkpatre.
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Howdy. My name is Angela Rodriguez
[2:37:20]
Prryin, but most people know me as Heli
[2:37:22]
um like in Helica. Um and I am an
[2:37:25]
entrepreneur um and a mom who lives in
[2:37:28]
Monaceel area. And I'm the granddaughter
[2:37:31]
of Pauline Gosa Valenciano. A lot of
[2:37:34]
people in here know who she is. She died
[2:37:36]
in 2018. She served this city for a very
[2:37:38]
long time, helping open more voting
[2:37:40]
locations, expanding it to people who
[2:37:42]
speak Spanish and different languages.
[2:37:44]
And my grandma, she's rolling in her
[2:37:45]
grave right now.
[2:37:47]
about all this. And I'm just asking you,
[2:37:50]
you know, if you're trying to save
[2:37:51]
money, use that money to put out
[2:37:53]
marketing to say it's voting time. Hey,
[2:37:56]
you know, here's the people who are on
[2:37:58]
your ballot. Let people know who's
[2:38:00]
running so they can actually come out
[2:38:02]
and vote. It's just basic stuff like
[2:38:04]
that. And I'm also a fighting Texas
[2:38:06]
Aggie, class of09. Whoop. And we don't
[2:38:09]
put up with liars, cheaters, or tolerate
[2:38:12]
those who do. And I'm asking you guys to
[2:38:15]
please just make it more accessible to
[2:38:18]
people.
[2:38:19]
» Is Hollis Kirkpatre present?
[2:38:22]
Hollis Kirkpatrick.
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Olivia Cartwright.
[2:38:29]
Following Miss Cartwright, we have
[2:38:31]
Alexander Montalvo.
[2:38:39]
The justification of low turnout ignores
[2:38:41]
that turnout is low because of
[2:38:42]
structural barriers. For example, in
[2:38:45]
Polytenic Heights, voters currently walk
[2:38:47]
or take a 10 to 15minute ride to
[2:38:50]
Rosedale to vote. Under this plan, they
[2:38:52]
would be forced to Bey Street instead,
[2:38:55]
doubling driving time or up to an hour
[2:38:57]
by way of bus. For a minimum wage
[2:39:00]
worker, that's up to three hours of pay,
[2:39:02]
roughly $30 just to cast a ballot. That
[2:39:05]
is not access. It is a deterrent. Clint
[2:39:09]
has now apparently had two opportunities
[2:39:11]
to present data. And I I commend you,
[2:39:14]
Judge O'Hare, for asking those important
[2:39:16]
questions. And unfortunately, we have
[2:39:18]
yet to see an ounce of scientific method
[2:39:21]
or data. Commissioners who demonstrated
[2:39:24]
your commitment to factbased decisions
[2:39:26]
last year when you voted to preserve
[2:39:28]
campus polling locations. I ask the
[2:39:31]
fellow commissioners and judge to apply
[2:39:33]
that same principle here. This is not
[2:39:36]
science. This is politics. Taran County
[2:39:39]
has consistently Thank you.
[2:39:41]
» Is Mr. Montalvo present. Alexander
[2:39:44]
Montalvo.
[2:39:46]
All right. Next, we have Kimberly Agoro.
[2:39:54]
Following Miss Agoro, we have Candida
[2:39:55]
Garcia.
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[Music]
[2:40:02]
» I am Reverend Dr. Kimberly.
[2:40:06]
I've been greatly disappointed with my
[2:40:08]
so-called friends, neighbors, and fellow
[2:40:11]
followers of Christ. At least with the
[2:40:14]
open races, and groups like the Proud
[2:40:17]
Boys and the KKK, you know exactly where
[2:40:19]
they stand, and you know what to expect.
[2:40:22]
But with today's good people like
[2:40:24]
yourselves,
[2:40:26]
people who toss rocks and hide their
[2:40:27]
hands, who sit silent while allowing the
[2:40:30]
balance of power to be shifted unfairly
[2:40:33]
and still demanding that folks pull
[2:40:35]
themselves up by the bootstraps that you
[2:40:37]
are cutting. Jesus is wondering how his
[2:40:40]
greatest commandment to love your
[2:40:42]
neighbor as you love yourself is
[2:40:43]
embodied in this legislation. I'm at a
[2:40:46]
loss as to how you expect me to bask in
[2:40:49]
what is not love. This is not love. This
[2:40:51]
is not justice. This is not right. And
[2:40:54]
guys, as the woman who chaired text pack
[2:40:56]
and put corn porny and put Greg in
[2:40:59]
office, I'm back. You got me back. I'll
[2:41:02]
be here. Is Miss Garcia present? Candida
[2:41:06]
Garcia.
[2:41:09]
Uh Paul David Williams.
[2:41:15]
Next we would have Katherine Brennan.
[2:41:22]
uh this this uh is supposed to be a
[2:41:25]
republic of democracy and you're trying
[2:41:29]
to make it authoritarian. That's not
[2:41:31]
right. And uh we need people to love
[2:41:34]
each other and we put you in place to do
[2:41:37]
that and you're not doing it. You're
[2:41:40]
denying people the love that they need
[2:41:43]
by taking away their voting. We need to
[2:41:46]
have the districts be fair and we need
[2:41:49]
to have people to be able to vote
[2:41:53]
without any uh problems and you're
[2:41:57]
making more problems for us.
[2:42:00]
What you're doing is wrong. What the
[2:42:02]
world needs is love. It's up to you to
[2:42:05]
do it.
[2:42:08]
» Is Katherine Brennan present?
[2:42:12]
Katherine Brennan,
[2:42:15]
Claudia Busby, Claudia, I'm sorry,
[2:42:18]
excuse me, Claudia Busby,
[2:42:20]
and following Mr. Busby, Dixie Davis.
[2:42:26]
Good afternoon. Uh, I'm against this.
[2:42:29]
Um,
[2:42:31]
closing the polling places. Each time we
[2:42:33]
go to election, uh, this past time was
[2:42:35]
election, we have people come in and
[2:42:37]
they want to vote and they not register
[2:42:38]
to vote. They have vote registration
[2:42:40]
cards. And I thought that was odd this
[2:42:41]
past year. And then now we come back and
[2:42:43]
we close places. I hear Romero asked
[2:42:46]
about all these questions. And I said,
[2:42:48]
why he asking questions? He normally
[2:42:50]
don't say anything. And they were
[2:42:51]
beating questions in order for the other
[2:42:54]
guy to speak cross to speak in.
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Basically, what we trying to do is
[2:42:57]
railroad people and get rid of these
[2:42:59]
voting places. We need these voting
[2:43:00]
places. You know it. And you trying to
[2:43:03]
play like you're not doing it. These
[2:43:05]
people in this room here are against
[2:43:07]
this. Not going to listen to us. I
[2:43:09]
recommend that the people in this room
[2:43:11]
share this information with the young
[2:43:12]
people and let them put it on social
[2:43:14]
media and see how y'all run our media.
[2:43:16]
If you want your child to run a meeting
[2:43:18]
the way you run across, let your kids
[2:43:20]
see this because you're not you
[2:43:22]
disrespect of Miss Sims, disrespectful
[2:43:24]
audience here, you don't want to listen
[2:43:26]
to us.
[2:43:26]
» Thank you.
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» Thank you.
[2:43:28]
» Dixie Davis following Miss Davis is
[2:43:31]
Carol Raburn.
[2:43:38]
My name is Dixie Davis, speaking on
[2:43:39]
behalf of the League of Women Voters of
[2:43:41]
Tarant County, a nonpartisan civic
[2:43:43]
organization whose mission is to empower
[2:43:45]
voters and defend democracy. Cutting
[2:43:47]
nearly half of polling sites this
[2:43:49]
November would continue a persistent
[2:43:50]
pattern of voter suppression by this
[2:43:52]
court. a pattern that includes the
[2:43:54]
defunding of Trinity Metro bus rides on
[2:43:56]
election days, last year's attempt to
[2:43:58]
eliminate all college campus polling
[2:44:00]
sites, and the recent dilution of voters
[2:44:02]
voices through blatant racial
[2:44:03]
gerrymandering. Fewer polling sites
[2:44:06]
means more confusion, longer lines, and
[2:44:08]
greater barriers, especially for college
[2:44:10]
students, seniors, and voters of color
[2:44:12]
who may need to travel farther to vote.
[2:44:14]
This court has a duty to voters to make
[2:44:16]
every election accessible and well
[2:44:18]
funded and ensure our polling places are
[2:44:20]
numerous and well staffed regardless of
[2:44:22]
voter turnout or what's on the ballot.
[2:44:25]
We urge you to prioritize the needs of
[2:44:27]
voters and keep all polling sites from
[2:44:29]
the 2023 election. Thank you.
[2:44:31]
» Thank you. Following Miss Raburn, we
[2:44:33]
have Leon Reed Jr.
[2:44:39]
So, I've worked the election as a judge
[2:44:41]
many times in Arlington at various
[2:44:44]
locations. We don't need to lose any of
[2:44:47]
those locations. All of them have been
[2:44:49]
very busy. Most of the ones, especially
[2:44:51]
the subcourthouse and UTA are are
[2:44:56]
staffed full-time. There's people there
[2:44:58]
voting all day long. We don't need to
[2:45:00]
double either one of those locations,
[2:45:02]
especially taking away the UTA location.
[2:45:05]
that smacks of total voter
[2:45:08]
discrimination because you're
[2:45:10]
discriminating against young people and
[2:45:12]
we're working really hard to get young
[2:45:14]
people registered to vote and to
[2:45:16]
encourage them to vote at UTA and TCC
[2:45:19]
when they graduate from high school.
[2:45:21]
You're telling them that doesn't matter
[2:45:23]
and they're not going to be able to do
[2:45:24]
that anymore. It's very disappointing.
[2:45:28]
» Mr. Reed, following Mr. Reed, we have
[2:45:30]
Judith Cotton.
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[Music]
[2:45:43]
I'm here to remind you that life prefers
[2:45:46]
balance. But don't trust me. Trust
[2:45:48]
science. Trust Isaac Newton when he
[2:45:51]
tells you that for every action there is
[2:45:54]
an equal and opposite reaction. Don't
[2:45:56]
trust me. Trust God. when he tells you
[2:45:59]
in Galatians chapter 6 that you will
[2:46:02]
reap what you sow. Trust good old boys
[2:46:06]
when they tell you that chickens will
[2:46:08]
eventually come home to roost. The
[2:46:11]
further you try to stretch Tarant County
[2:46:14]
in one direction, the further and more
[2:46:17]
vicious the snapback will be. It has
[2:46:20]
been noted that Tarant County is one of
[2:46:22]
the fastest growing counties in the
[2:46:24]
country. Yet we want to cut the polling
[2:46:27]
locations. It's
[2:46:30]
past time that politicians stopped
[2:46:32]
electing voters and allowed the voters
[2:46:35]
to elect the politicians. That is the
[2:46:38]
American way, not what we're seeing
[2:46:40]
right now.
[2:46:42]
» Thank you. Is Miss Cotton present?
[2:46:45]
Okay. Following Miss Cotton, we have
[2:46:47]
Ronald Bendian.
[2:46:50]
I do not support this repeated attempt
[2:46:52]
of voter suppression from your mission
[2:46:54]
statement to work collaboratively with
[2:46:56]
our stakeholders to improve the
[2:46:57]
satisfaction of the residents and
[2:46:59]
businesses of Tarant County through the
[2:47:00]
effective and efficient provision of
[2:47:02]
services. Removing over 100 voting
[2:47:05]
locations is not effective or efficient
[2:47:07]
provision of services. Taran County is
[2:47:09]
the third most populous county in Texas
[2:47:11]
and 15th in the USA. It's contradictory
[2:47:14]
that a rapidly growing county with over
[2:47:16]
two million citizens should reduce
[2:47:18]
voting locations from 349 to 214. This
[2:47:22]
attempt will leave citizens of North
[2:47:24]
Side, Southside, KOMO, all college
[2:47:27]
campuses in the county and the
[2:47:28]
hardworking without effective and
[2:47:30]
efficient early voting on election day
[2:47:32]
locations in the November elections. It
[2:47:34]
is your duty to uphold the United States
[2:47:36]
Constitution, your mission, goal as
[2:47:39]
county commissioners, and do not approve
[2:47:41]
this attempt of voter suppression of the
[2:47:44]
citizens of Tarant County. Thank you.
[2:47:46]
» Thank you. Ronald Bendian. Ronald
[2:47:48]
Bendian present.
[2:47:53]
Aandra Kulie.
[2:47:56]
Following Miss Kulie, we have Roelio
[2:48:00]
Mahero.
[2:48:20]
Since I only have a minute, I'm hoping
[2:48:22]
you are taking note that so far it's
[2:48:26]
been one person for this and the rest of
[2:48:29]
us in this audience have been against
[2:48:31]
it.
[2:48:32]
Uh, I'm here to say that I'm against it,
[2:48:35]
too. Let the people you sworn to
[2:48:38]
represent vote.
[2:48:44]
Reducing the number of sites
[2:48:48]
will
[2:48:50]
disenfranch disenfranchise
[2:48:53]
and suppress the vote of the young
[2:48:55]
people, the working poor, the middle
[2:48:58]
class, and of course the people of
[2:49:00]
color.
[2:49:02]
I hear that a couple of you are familiar
[2:49:04]
with the Old Testament
[2:49:06]
and of the Ten Commandments because I
[2:49:09]
hear they're posted everywhere now.
[2:49:12]
Number eight says don't steal. And isn't
[2:49:16]
that what you're trying to do?
[2:49:19]
The absence of polling sites on
[2:49:21]
campuses.
[2:49:22]
» Thank you, Miss
[2:49:24]
» Uh Mr. Is it Mo? Can you help me
[2:49:26]
pronounce that?
[2:49:28]
» Moio.
[2:49:30]
You got a judge. Uh, Roelio is the name
[2:49:32]
and Muo the last name.
[2:49:33]
» Muo like
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Okay. Following Mr. Muo is Dorothy
[2:49:38]
Deose. Go ahead, sir.
[2:49:40]
» All right. Thank you so much.
[2:49:42]
Commissioners, I want you all to think
[2:49:43]
back for a second. The first time you
[2:49:45]
voted for me, in my case, it was a UT
[2:49:48]
Arlington. That feeling of pride, the
[2:49:50]
feeling of being part of this great
[2:49:51]
country. Do you remember?
[2:49:55]
I'm a proud for generation Tehano, a
[2:49:56]
student at UT Arlington and the son of
[2:49:58]
immigrants who believe that Tehas says
[2:49:59]
Latenos because after all we are our
[2:50:03]
parents American dream and yet this
[2:50:05]
court wants to shut down my campus
[2:50:06]
polling site. Don't tell me that this
[2:50:09]
about efficiency. This is about cracking
[2:50:10]
and packing our communities because this
[2:50:12]
is about bringing Jim Crow through the
[2:50:13]
back door or in this case through the
[2:50:15]
front door today. And transportation is
[2:50:18]
already the biggest barrier. Not
[2:50:19]
everyone gets to have a car like you.
[2:50:21]
I've been riding my bicycle for many
[2:50:23]
years now in Taran County. But
[2:50:24]
ultimately, I don't have all the time in
[2:50:26]
the world to spend and the TR, the TXRE,
[2:50:30]
because transportation is already the
[2:50:31]
biggest barrier. I ask you to front the
[2:50:33]
bill. I ask you to provide free and
[2:50:34]
rapid transit for every single person so
[2:50:36]
that it's not a barrier for us. I want
[2:50:38]
you to help me increase voter turnout.
[2:50:41]
» Thank you.
[2:50:42]
» Is Mr. Deose present?
[2:50:46]
» No. Is Miss Dose present?
[2:50:49]
» Yes. Following Mr. Debose is Jane
[2:50:51]
Collins.
[2:50:54]
» Good evening, judge and commissioners.
[2:50:56]
My name is Dorothy Deose and I strongly
[2:50:58]
oppose a proposed reduction of the early
[2:51:00]
v early voting sites and election day
[2:51:04]
sites.
[2:51:06]
When polling places move farther away,
[2:51:08]
seniors without cars and students
[2:51:10]
relying on public transit
[2:51:12]
face longer, more borders bordersome
[2:51:15]
trips just to cast their vote. You are
[2:51:18]
making it harder to vote. That
[2:51:21]
discourages participations in silenced
[2:51:23]
neighborhoods that rightfully deserve
[2:51:26]
strong representation.
[2:51:28]
Taran County is growing.
[2:51:30]
Our access to democracy must grow with
[2:51:34]
it, not shrink. I urge you to preserve
[2:51:38]
fair access for every neighborhood by
[2:51:40]
keeping their sites open. I have lived
[2:51:43]
within five blocks of my vote all my
[2:51:46]
life and I find that for all
[2:51:48]
neighborhoods for me to have to go 10
[2:51:51]
miles to vote is unacceptable. Thank
[2:51:53]
you.
[2:51:54]
» Thank you. Uh following Miss Collins, we
[2:51:56]
have Jimmy Blackwell.
[2:52:01]
» Hello, I'm Jane Collins from Arlington.
[2:52:04]
And when I first listened to the report,
[2:52:07]
it sounded like everything was just
[2:52:09]
about finances, how to save money. But
[2:52:13]
thanks to M uh Commissioner Miles, we uh
[2:52:17]
heard that it's about a lot more than
[2:52:20]
just saving money. And I totally
[2:52:23]
encourage anybody listening to this uh
[2:52:27]
session on on their computers to
[2:52:31]
relisten to that. I couldn't have said
[2:52:33]
it better. And uh once again, I'm going
[2:52:38]
to appeal to to Mr. Ramirez's
[2:52:42]
uh at least please vote to table. I'm
[2:52:45]
totally against any of this uh cutting
[2:52:48]
of polling places because I think it's
[2:52:50]
undemocratic, especially as we're
[2:52:53]
growing. But I'm going to appeal to you
[2:52:55]
at least table this until we get more
[2:52:59]
analysis. as Commissioner Simmons has
[2:53:02]
asked for.
[2:53:03]
» All right. Following Mr. Blackwell, we
[2:53:05]
have Andrea West,
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Judge O'Hare.
[2:53:18]
Taran County is in a recession.
[2:53:22]
It's not a financial recession,
[2:53:25]
but a recession with the truth,
[2:53:28]
honesty, integrity, and fairness.
[2:53:33]
It's an absolute disgrace
[2:53:37]
what you are proposing and what you will
[2:53:40]
just force down the throat of Taran
[2:53:42]
County voters. You know what you're
[2:53:45]
doing.
[2:53:47]
So, don't look at me like you're
[2:53:48]
innocent. You know exactly what you're
[2:53:51]
doing. You're trying to suppress
[2:53:54]
the vote of precent one and precent two.
[2:54:00]
You want to change everything to your
[2:54:02]
lacking.
[2:54:03]
And we are here to fight back and say
[2:54:05]
it's not going to happen. So I stand
[2:54:08]
strongly and ask you to reject
[2:54:12]
this racist
[2:54:15]
MAGA s proposal. It stinks.
[2:54:18]
» Thank you, sir. Uh, Miss West.
[2:54:21]
Uh, following Miss West, we have Lee
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Henderson.
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[Music]
[2:54:26]
» Good afternoon. My name is Andrea West
[2:54:28]
and I represent District 6 on behalf of
[2:54:30]
the office of Councilwoman Dr. Mia Hall.
[2:54:32]
Our district includes historic Lake Ko
[2:54:34]
community and the Komo Community Center,
[2:54:36]
an accessible polling place now being
[2:54:39]
considered for removal along with James
[2:54:41]
Avenue Service Center and several north
[2:54:43]
side and college campuses
[2:54:46]
college campus polling places within the
[2:54:48]
city of Fort Worth. These are
[2:54:49]
neighborhoods made up of working
[2:54:51]
families, seniors, and voters who rely
[2:54:53]
on nearby familiar polling sites to make
[2:54:55]
their voices heard. Removing these
[2:54:57]
locations would create unnecessary
[2:54:59]
barriers to voting access, especially
[2:55:02]
for communities that already face
[2:55:04]
challenges. This is not about politics.
[2:55:06]
It's about fairness, equity, and access.
[2:55:10]
Voting should be convenient, not harder.
[2:55:13]
I respectfully urge this court to
[2:55:15]
maintain these polling sites and protect
[2:55:17]
access to the ballot for all of Fort
[2:55:19]
Worth and Taran County residents. Thank
[2:55:21]
you.
[2:55:22]
» Thank you. Is Lee Henderson present?
[2:55:26]
Lee Henderson,
[2:55:28]
Mark Connelly,
[2:55:30]
is Mark Connelly present.
[2:55:36]
Messia Savis Messia Savis.
[2:55:41]
Okay. How many of you signed up to speak
[2:55:44]
on this particular item besides Mr.
[2:55:46]
Montalvo and came in late?
[2:55:50]
Anyone?
[2:55:53]
Okay, Mr. Montalo, come on.
[2:56:01]
» All right. I didn't know my time was
[2:56:02]
appointed to a certain time, so I don't
[2:56:03]
know how late applies, but I want
[2:56:07]
everyone to understand who is watching
[2:56:09]
this, who is in the audience, that this
[2:56:12]
is the MAGA movement doing everything it
[2:56:15]
can to kill democracy.
[2:56:18]
The MAGA movement that O'Hare loves to
[2:56:21]
be a part of
[2:56:23]
is anti-American,
[2:56:26]
is anti-democracy.
[2:56:30]
And a lot of folks will think, well,
[2:56:32]
dang, America's got a pretty ugly past.
[2:56:35]
You know, he may be doing the things
[2:56:37]
that
[2:56:39]
it was designed to do. But I'm here to
[2:56:41]
say that people have died for our
[2:56:44]
rights.
[2:56:46]
Black and brown community members,
[2:56:48]
women, and even white community members
[2:56:51]
have sacrificed to get us where we're
[2:56:53]
at, and they are here to undo it, and
[2:56:56]
it's time for everyone to take action
[2:56:58]
and step up.
[2:57:01]
All right, those are all the speakers we
[2:57:02]
have on this item. We have a motion to
[2:57:05]
table. I don't have any form from you or
[2:57:08]
you. I read them all.
[2:57:12]
» Sure.
[2:57:20]
I believe that's Mr. Bell. Can Can you
[2:57:23]
check and see if Mr. Bell is on this
[2:57:24]
list? I don't recall saying his name at
[2:57:27]
any point.
[2:57:34]
» We have you signed up under Let me see
[2:57:36]
it.
[2:57:37]
» I4. No,
[2:57:40]
» 104.
[2:57:41]
» He probably meant it. probably supposed
[2:57:43]
to be I4.
[2:57:45]
» So, all right, we have a motion to table
[2:57:49]
this item. We have a second motion, I
[2:57:52]
mean a second on that motion.
[2:57:56]
Any further discussion from the court
[2:57:58]
before we vote?
[2:58:02]
All right, seeing none, all in favor of
[2:58:04]
tableabling the motion, please raise
[2:58:05]
your hand.
[2:58:08]
Okay, so that fails two to three. Do we
[2:58:11]
have another motion? I'm making it
[2:58:14]
quiet.
[2:58:16]
» Please remove her from the room.
[2:58:19]
» Um, please remove her from the room.
[2:58:26]
» I'm not going to move him. I'm just
[2:58:27]
going to move you. Please remove her.
[2:58:32]
» Okay. So, we have Do we have another
[2:58:34]
motion? I make a motion to approve all
[2:58:42]
» I make a motion that we approve all the
[2:58:44]
voting site locations that were put
[2:58:46]
forward by uh Mr. Lewig with the uh to
[2:58:50]
add on to it KO community center legacy
[2:58:53]
learning center the Tarant County uh
[2:58:56]
college northwest campus the Charles
[2:58:58]
Griffin Building and the Northeast
[2:59:00]
Subcourthouse.
[2:59:03]
I'll second that.
[2:59:04]
» I have
[2:59:06]
one moment. We have a motion and a
[2:59:08]
second.
[2:59:09]
» Further discussion.
[2:59:14]
» I wonder why. So, the motion was to
[2:59:17]
approve the sites presented with the
[2:59:20]
addition of KOMO
[2:59:23]
» Legacy Learning Center,
[2:59:24]
» Legacy Learning Center,
[2:59:25]
» Tarant County College Northwest Campus,
[2:59:28]
the Charles Griffin Building, and the
[2:59:29]
Northeast Subcourthouse.
[2:59:32]
» Okay. So there's a motion and a second
[2:59:34]
discussion.
[2:59:36]
» I have several sites to add as well. So
[2:59:40]
would that require an additional motion
[2:59:42]
to amend this motion?
[2:59:45]
» You can make a motion to amend the
[2:59:48]
motion and then you it does not have to
[2:59:52]
be accepted by the original motion
[2:59:54]
maker.
[2:59:55]
» That's correct, judge. What would happen
[2:59:57]
in the case of an amendment here would
[2:59:59]
be the amendment would require a second.
[3:00:01]
The court would then vote on the
[3:00:02]
amendment and then proceed on the main
[3:00:04]
motion as amended.
[3:00:05]
» Okay. So, state your motion.
[3:00:10]
Uh, my motion is to add
[3:00:14]
Bob Duncan, University of Texas at
[3:00:17]
Arlington,
[3:00:19]
uh, TCC Southeast
[3:00:22]
campuses or those sites back.
[3:00:27]
» All right. So, there's a motion
[3:00:30]
to amend Commissioner Krauss's motion to
[3:00:33]
add the following sites. Bob Duncan,
[3:00:35]
UTA, and TCC
[3:00:36]
» Southeast.
[3:00:37]
» Southeast. Do we have a second on that?
[3:00:39]
» Second.
[3:00:40]
» We have a second on that. Any discussion
[3:00:42]
on that one?
[3:00:42]
» Yeah. No. Uh, Mr. Credville, do I
[3:00:46]
indicate whether I will accept or reject
[3:00:48]
that amend? Amend.
[3:00:50]
» No, Commissioner, at this point, because
[3:00:51]
there's been an a motion to amend and
[3:00:54]
then a second, the court should vote on
[3:00:56]
the motion to amend. And then if it is
[3:00:58]
adopted, the court should vote on the
[3:01:01]
main motion that you presented as
[3:01:02]
amended.
[3:01:03]
» And if it's fails, then you vote on the
[3:01:05]
original motion.
[3:01:06]
» Correct.
[3:01:06]
» Okay. Okay. So, the motion. Does anybody
[3:01:09]
need me to repeat the motion up here?
[3:01:11]
» All right. We have a motion in a second.
[3:01:13]
Any discussion on this?
[3:01:14]
» Yeah. I don't know which sites exactly.
[3:01:16]
Um I didn't write them all down. There
[3:01:18]
were three.
[3:01:18]
» Bob Duncan, UTA, and TCC Southeast.
[3:01:22]
» Clint, did you have any problems with
[3:01:24]
any three of those?
[3:01:26]
» UTA traditionally isn't an odd year
[3:01:28]
early voting location. Um so, that one
[3:01:32]
we would have to see if that's something
[3:01:34]
that they would even want to do. Uh and
[3:01:37]
UTA and TCC Southeast, both those
[3:01:40]
locations do not give us a separate
[3:01:43]
room. So, that's going to if if they
[3:01:46]
will allow it, we're going to have to
[3:01:48]
set up and tear down those sites every
[3:01:49]
single day uh to to make those ones
[3:01:51]
work.
[3:01:53]
» All right. So, we have a Hang on. We
[3:01:55]
have a motion and a second
[3:01:58]
to amend the original motion to add Bob
[3:02:01]
Duncan, UTA, and TCC Southeast. Okay.
[3:02:05]
Just to Clint, uh, in regards to Taran
[3:02:08]
County College Southeast Campus, I would
[3:02:11]
recommend reaching out to their
[3:02:12]
governmental affairs director, Reginald
[3:02:15]
Gates, with the district office,
[3:02:18]
about accommodating you. And if you need
[3:02:20]
me to provide you with his contact
[3:02:23]
information, I can do that or I can make
[3:02:24]
the call.
[3:02:25]
» I'd appreciate that, Commissioner. And
[3:02:27]
my understanding is
[3:02:30]
the actual
[3:02:33]
due date
[3:02:35]
could accommodate.
[3:02:37]
So if this motion fails
[3:02:41]
and you and the reg the first motion
[3:02:45]
passes, there is still time to add these
[3:02:49]
if they can accommodate the law. Is that
[3:02:53]
accurate?
[3:02:55]
» Yes. Like this. Okay.
[3:02:57]
» Well, could could you alternatively if
[3:03:00]
the if the motion passed but they didn't
[3:03:03]
want to since we're publishing a list
[3:03:05]
say let's say we approve those sites and
[3:03:07]
then you subsequently find out that they
[3:03:09]
can't accommodate uh in accordance with
[3:03:11]
the law. What happens then? Do we have
[3:03:12]
to come back and remove the site by
[3:03:14]
court action?
[3:03:17]
I I believe we would just have to post
[3:03:19]
the notice that that site is not going
[3:03:21]
to be available. I don't remember the
[3:03:24]
exact posting requirements off the top
[3:03:25]
of my head. I don't have the election
[3:03:27]
code, but we would just have to notify
[3:03:29]
that it is not available um and where
[3:03:31]
the nearest locations are at.
[3:03:34]
» Okay. So,
[3:03:36]
what here's my comment on this.
[3:03:42]
Bob Duncan did not say we cannot
[3:03:44]
accommodate.
[3:03:46]
» No, they didn't.
[3:03:46]
» Okay. UTA and TCC South Southeast did.
[3:03:50]
» Correct. after you reached out.
[3:03:52]
» Correct.
[3:03:52]
» Okay. So, um
[3:03:56]
the other issue, well, I can I I would
[3:04:01]
probably support the Bob Duncan one. Uh
[3:04:03]
I'm not going to support those two and
[3:04:05]
they've already said no. But if you can
[3:04:08]
come back
[3:04:10]
and be able to analyze it and explain it
[3:04:13]
and why it's good, why it isn't, but the
[3:04:16]
idea that UTA is never a constitutional
[3:04:19]
amendment election um site, I mean
[3:04:23]
weighs with me. So, uh All right.
[3:04:27]
Anybody else have anything on this
[3:04:28]
before we vote on the amendment? I would
[3:04:30]
just say in order of operation, I think
[3:04:33]
it would be better if we didn't add
[3:04:35]
those polling sites in right now that
[3:04:37]
have already told us they couldn't
[3:04:38]
comply with state law and then try to
[3:04:40]
come back and add them in later than to
[3:04:42]
maybe approve them on the front end and
[3:04:43]
then have to come back and post a notice
[3:04:45]
and go through all that. So, um, but I
[3:04:48]
agree if it's just the Bob Duncan
[3:04:50]
Center, I'm I'm great with adding that
[3:04:52]
into this list of of amended sites.
[3:04:55]
» It's not just the Bob Duncan Center.
[3:04:57]
It's those sites I named. And I have an
[3:05:00]
amendment to my motion to add um I move
[3:05:05]
to amend my motion to add the Vernon
[3:05:08]
Newsome stadium.
[3:05:12]
» Would you be willing to revoke your
[3:05:14]
previous amending motion
[3:05:17]
and then make one?
[3:05:19]
» Sure.
[3:05:20]
» For those four?
[3:05:21]
» Yes.
[3:05:22]
» All right. You you vote?
[3:05:26]
» Yes.
[3:05:27]
» Okay. I move to resend
[3:05:31]
my motion.
[3:05:33]
» No, you just withdraw. You withdraw your
[3:05:35]
amending motion.
[3:05:36]
» I withdraw my
[3:05:37]
» Now you're going to make a new motion
[3:05:38]
for
[3:05:39]
» I'm going to make a new motion.
[3:05:44]
Amended motion to add
[3:05:47]
Vernon Newsome Stadium, TCC
[3:05:51]
Southoutheast Campus,
[3:05:53]
Bob Duncan, and the Kennedale site. So
[3:05:57]
you're now taking UTA off.
[3:06:00]
» Okay. So Bob Duncan, when you say the
[3:06:05]
Kennedale site, what is the Kennedale
[3:06:07]
site?
[3:06:08]
» Kennedale Community Center.
[3:06:10]
» Have you
[3:06:11]
» Yeah, I don't I don't have the name of
[3:06:13]
it because they just they had to move.
[3:06:15]
We used to be in the library, but
[3:06:16]
they're doing some construction. So it's
[3:06:18]
um
[3:06:21]
Dober Hall is is the location.
[3:06:22]
» Have you talked to them about that about
[3:06:25]
being able to do that this time?
[3:06:27]
We haven't, but we can just reach out
[3:06:29]
and um and ask.
[3:06:32]
» So, let me say this. This this my whole
[3:06:33]
point of tableing this until we have uh
[3:06:38]
time to go through it. So, sitting up
[3:06:41]
here on this day is um without the
[3:06:47]
information
[3:06:48]
um is
[3:06:50]
irresponsible.
[3:06:52]
It's unprofessional.
[3:06:54]
Um, and so the rush, what's what's the
[3:06:58]
urgency to do this?
[3:07:01]
We can have a special call meeting. We
[3:07:04]
can do it on September 3rd. Um, which
[3:07:08]
gives him plenty of time
[3:07:10]
um, according to the elections calendar
[3:07:13]
to get this get this approved. So, what
[3:07:16]
what is the rush um to do this?
[3:07:20]
Commissioner Miles might have some some
[3:07:22]
sites. Commissioner RmIrez might have
[3:07:24]
some sights.
[3:07:24]
» Is that a rhetorical question or
[3:07:26]
» No, no, I need to know.
[3:07:28]
» Uh I think two pieces to this is one
[3:07:33]
I'm ready to vote and I think we can
[3:07:35]
vote. There is an OP. So there is an
[3:07:38]
option to bring the other sites when
[3:07:41]
they've had the ability to do diligence.
[3:07:44]
Um so I don't see a reason at this point
[3:07:48]
to postpone it. We can vote if yours
[3:07:52]
fails. We can vote on his original
[3:07:54]
motion. If yours passes, we can vote on
[3:07:56]
the amended motion alto together. Take a
[3:07:58]
vote and then if there's something else
[3:08:00]
to add, it can come back and be added
[3:08:02]
and it gives him a chance to do the
[3:08:04]
diligence. So that that's the an answer
[3:08:06]
to that question.
[3:08:07]
» And anybody else want to weigh in on
[3:08:09]
that question?
[3:08:12]
» What's the
[3:08:13]
» The list of amended sites? There's I
[3:08:15]
don't see any of well all of the
[3:08:18]
additions. I don't see any sites that
[3:08:21]
historically would tell us no don't
[3:08:23]
don't show up here. Um so I'm I'm pretty
[3:08:25]
confident that the list of ads um we can
[3:08:29]
make happen.
[3:08:29]
» Which which list are you referring to?
[3:08:31]
» KO all all of them. KO T T T T T T T T T
[3:08:33]
T T T T T T T T T T T TCC Northwest, the
[3:08:34]
Charles Griffin Northeast Sub, Vernon
[3:08:36]
Newsome, Bob Duncan, and TCC Southeast,
[3:08:40]
and Kennedale.
[3:08:41]
» I thought you already said TCC said they
[3:08:43]
couldn't accommodate. They can't
[3:08:44]
accommodate the individual polling
[3:08:47]
location and us having a room, but they
[3:08:49]
will let us conduct voting there.
[3:08:53]
» Okay. So, at the moment, we have a
[3:08:58]
motion to amend Commissioner Krauss's
[3:09:00]
motion
[3:09:02]
to add Bob Duncan, Kennedale
[3:09:07]
Health Center or something to that
[3:09:09]
effect, TCC Southeast, and Vernon
[3:09:12]
Newsome Stadium as locations. Did I
[3:09:14]
repeat your motion correctly?
[3:09:16]
» Yes, but I have a question for the
[3:09:18]
administrator.
[3:09:20]
Um, so are you going to hold this list?
[3:09:24]
Because the judge said we can always
[3:09:27]
come back and add sites. Are you going
[3:09:29]
to hold this until the next meeting
[3:09:31]
before submitting it or publishing it or
[3:09:35]
whatever you have to do to it? Did you
[3:09:37]
hear what he said?
[3:09:39]
» The
[3:09:41]
what is approved today is what we're
[3:09:43]
going to move forward with to to start
[3:09:45]
getting the election done. And I don't
[3:09:48]
if we get an improved list of of what we
[3:09:50]
want then that's what we would.
[3:09:52]
» So he's he wasn't quite accurate when he
[3:09:55]
said that that we can add if if if
[3:09:59]
commissioner Krauss's passes and my
[3:10:03]
amendment fails, we can come back and
[3:10:06]
try to add some more sites at a future
[3:10:08]
meeting. There's there's still time. Um
[3:10:12]
if we if the court wanted to agendaize
[3:10:14]
an item and and add those on the
[3:10:16]
September 3rd meeting, we could add
[3:10:18]
those in. It just taking this list and
[3:10:20]
moving forward lets us start getting the
[3:10:22]
programming done. All the work for the
[3:10:24]
election. This will be the majority of
[3:10:26]
it. I wouldn't imagine that any ads are
[3:10:28]
going to be much significant after uh
[3:10:31]
the list that we've we've gained here.
[3:10:33]
So, we will be able to continue what
[3:10:35]
what we've presented and if there were
[3:10:38]
ads, we could add those in.
[3:10:42]
» All right. Are we ready to vote on the
[3:10:44]
amendment to the motion?
[3:10:46]
» I've got a comment.
[3:10:47]
» Okay.
[3:10:48]
» Um ju just in general, uh I I think this
[3:10:51]
process again, communication is key, um
[3:10:54]
for our elections administrator, um on
[3:10:56]
the next iterations of this. uh but I do
[3:10:59]
think you know while I may not share the
[3:11:02]
viewpoint uh of some of my colleagues up
[3:11:05]
here I I do think that the robust
[3:11:07]
discussion uh is healthy and I think
[3:11:11]
being able to discuss it and you know
[3:11:14]
not everybody it's not a win or loss
[3:11:16]
type of thing not everything's
[3:11:17]
adversarial um you know it's it's
[3:11:20]
viewpoints on what's the most efficient
[3:11:22]
way to do something what's the most
[3:11:24]
responsible and at the end of the day
[3:11:26]
how to best serve all of the citizens in
[3:11:28]
Taran County, all of them, uh, in each
[3:11:30]
of our individual precincts. So, I do
[3:11:33]
think that the conversation's
[3:11:34]
productive, uh, just to go through the
[3:11:37]
exercise and and again, Clint, I think
[3:11:39]
hopefully um, in the future, we have
[3:11:41]
this discussion before uh, we have a
[3:11:43]
final proposal so that everybody's
[3:11:45]
viewpoints are included. Um, but but
[3:11:47]
this process again, I think, has gone
[3:11:51]
about as well as it could with getting
[3:11:52]
the information how we got it. So,
[3:11:55]
thanks.
[3:11:55]
» Yeah, I don't I don't think anything's
[3:11:57]
been adversarial up here. Um, it's what
[3:12:01]
I said at the beginning, the process.
[3:12:04]
Um, and you know, you're not worth two
[3:12:08]
damn cents because I asked you Friday if
[3:12:14]
this could be postponed.
[3:12:17]
You said yes. All weekend
[3:12:21]
you and Chandler said no, it can't. I
[3:12:25]
wait. I've spoken with election
[3:12:28]
administrators in four other counties.
[3:12:32]
So, I know you did not tell me the truth
[3:12:36]
this weekend
[3:12:38]
as I attempted to pull this item off the
[3:12:42]
agenda and move it to the September 3rd
[3:12:46]
meeting. You wanted this circus. You
[3:12:49]
wanted You ought to be embarrassed. So
[3:12:53]
now you just said
[3:12:56]
you could put it on the September. I
[3:12:59]
I've got emails I will post on social
[3:13:01]
media for these people to see.
[3:13:03]
» Please do commission. I like I said and
[3:13:05]
I told you for the programming side of
[3:13:07]
it, yes, we have time. The issue is both
[3:13:10]
myself and the assistant elections
[3:13:12]
administrator are not going to be here
[3:13:14]
on the 3 in order to present it. And
[3:13:17]
that is why we wanted to get this in
[3:13:19]
here in front of the court so we could
[3:13:20]
have this discussion. and so I could get
[3:13:22]
my team a list of sites so that they
[3:13:24]
could work with
[3:13:25]
» And I took that into consideration and
[3:13:27]
my motion. All I've talked about is a
[3:13:31]
special call meeting because this county
[3:13:34]
has to stop because two individuals
[3:13:37]
won't be here. He'll be at a conference.
[3:13:40]
Hey, go go go to the conference a day
[3:13:42]
late. But the business of this county
[3:13:45]
has to continue.
[3:13:48]
Forget your conference. You got a list
[3:13:50]
to do. You got programming to start.
[3:13:53]
Skip a day of the conference.
[3:13:56]
» All right. We have a motion and a second
[3:13:59]
on an amending motion. What?
[3:14:01]
» You do not have a second for the
[3:14:02]
amendment, judge.
[3:14:03]
» Um,
[3:14:04]
» Do we have a second?
[3:14:05]
» Seconded.
[3:14:06]
» Okay.
[3:14:06]
» Second.
[3:14:07]
» We have a motion and a second on an
[3:14:10]
amending motion. Any further discussion
[3:14:12]
before we vote on it?
[3:14:14]
» Just one more question because TCC
[3:14:16]
Southeast is included in this. Correct.
[3:14:18]
» Correct. and they have told us that they
[3:14:20]
cannot comply with state law
[3:14:23]
» With the the separate room. Now there's
[3:14:26]
as long as we have a room within there
[3:14:29]
that we can tear down and store the
[3:14:31]
equipment every night then we can still
[3:14:33]
make that happen. They didn't say they
[3:14:34]
could not do that. They just said that
[3:14:35]
we could not have our own voting room.
[3:14:37]
So I can go back and see can they
[3:14:38]
accommodate that or they could say no
[3:14:40]
they can't and and then it wouldn't be
[3:14:42]
compliant with the state law and we
[3:14:44]
wouldn't be able to use it. So, you feel
[3:14:45]
reasonably confident that we'll be able
[3:14:47]
to make that site work?
[3:14:49]
» I'll do everything I can to find a way
[3:14:51]
to make it happen.
[3:14:54]
» So,
[3:14:56]
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11. The 11th lowest
[3:15:03]
turnout from the 2023 constitutional
[3:15:07]
amendment election is the one out of
[3:15:11]
what now has risen to approximately
[3:15:16]
28
[3:15:18]
plus 4 32 locations. We're going to make
[3:15:23]
an accommodation for them being the 11th
[3:15:25]
lowest that no other early voting site
[3:15:28]
has to make. So for an average of
[3:15:30]
approximately
[3:15:35]
50 voters a day. All right. Again, if if
[3:15:39]
this had if
[3:15:41]
if we had this information ahead of
[3:15:43]
time, we wouldn't be up here doing this.
[3:15:46]
It doesn't make sense either
[3:15:50]
to get rid of the northeast courthouse
[3:15:54]
and they bring in they're the one, two,
[3:15:57]
three, four, five, six, seven, eighth
[3:16:00]
highest vote getting site in Taran
[3:16:02]
County. Make it make sense, sir. That
[3:16:05]
was part of the discussion and that was
[3:16:06]
one of the locations that I said likely
[3:16:08]
could be added. But when we were looking
[3:16:10]
at the fact that there is another higher
[3:16:12]
performing location right there next to
[3:16:14]
it
[3:16:15]
» And what we had done consistently was if
[3:16:17]
there was a higher if there were two
[3:16:18]
locations together and one was a higher
[3:16:21]
location that was the location that was
[3:16:23]
chosen to facilitate the voters.
[3:16:26]
» And and the administrator was very
[3:16:28]
responsive and helpful with me when I
[3:16:29]
called and asked that very question. He
[3:16:31]
laid all of that out to me and gave me a
[3:16:33]
clear reason for why that was not done.
[3:16:36]
And so I appreciated that. There was a
[3:16:37]
rhyme and reason behind every site that
[3:16:39]
we asked him about and that was very
[3:16:41]
helpful.
[3:16:42]
» Well, what I don't appreciate
[3:16:46]
is are the games and the lack of
[3:16:49]
transparency from you, Clint, and from
[3:16:52]
you, Mr. Merritt. Um,
[3:16:55]
and what I don't appreciate
[3:16:58]
is these people coming down here
[3:17:01]
parking, spending their time, leaving
[3:17:04]
their jobs, whatever. To be
[3:17:06]
disrespected.
[3:17:08]
When over a hundred
[3:17:11]
people tell us what to do and one says
[3:17:16]
no, we do what they tell us to do. We
[3:17:20]
were elected by them. Y'all are
[3:17:23]
disrespectful to our constituents.
[3:17:26]
and your disrespect for our staff is one
[3:17:29]
of the most abhorent things I have ever
[3:17:31]
seen. Be quiet now.
[3:17:34]
» They don't they don't have to be quiet.
[3:17:36]
They can respond.
[3:17:37]
» Yes, you do. Remove him.
[3:17:40]
» Yeah. And you know what? When I have the
[3:17:42]
microphone, I have the ability.
[3:17:46]
[Music]
[3:17:48]
So you you love you love. Excuse me.
[3:17:56]
because
[3:17:59]
he's got to throw people out.
[3:18:01]
» No.
[3:18:01]
» Disrespectful of these people who have
[3:18:04]
par, paid to park, come down here, taken
[3:18:06]
their time to tell us how to do their
[3:18:11]
business. These are taxpayers
[3:18:14]
» And you are constantly calling our staff
[3:18:16]
members liars, questioning their
[3:18:19]
integrity uh over and over and over.
[3:18:22]
They lie.
[3:18:23]
» Would you do me a favor? I let you
[3:18:25]
speak. Would you do the same for me?
[3:18:27]
» Okay, I'll speak after you. So,
[3:18:28]
» Of course you will. You can never stop.
[3:18:30]
So,
[3:18:32]
» You repeatedly get up here and call our
[3:18:35]
staff members liars when you don't agree
[3:18:38]
with what they say. You You confuse
[3:18:41]
facts. You say things that are
[3:18:43]
inaccurate as though they are fact
[3:18:45]
literally every single meeting. And
[3:18:49]
Clint has been very clear from the time
[3:18:52]
this started that the deadline to turn
[3:18:55]
this in is not today.
[3:18:58]
But they also don't want to go down to
[3:19:00]
the very last minute because voting
[3:19:03]
starts in I believe it is uh mid October
[3:19:08]
and they have less at this point than
[3:19:10]
two months to start going on it. It
[3:19:13]
would be nice if you would stop accusing
[3:19:16]
the staff members who disagree with you
[3:19:18]
and don't do what you think they should
[3:19:20]
do every minute. It would be nice if you
[3:19:22]
would stop accusing them of being liars
[3:19:24]
and deceiving and deceptive. You did it
[3:19:27]
to him today. You did it to Helen last
[3:19:30]
week. You do it to Chandler multiple
[3:19:31]
times a year. Enough's enough.
[3:19:34]
» Okay. So,
[3:19:36]
» Judge might be right.
[3:19:37]
» If this is No, no. I was going after
[3:19:39]
him. If this
[3:19:41]
is a comprehensive
[3:19:44]
report analysis,
[3:19:46]
methodology
[3:19:48]
on why we should be cutting our polling
[3:19:52]
places in half.
[3:19:54]
We're sad. This is sad. This is
[3:19:57]
ridiculous. I ask him,
[3:20:00]
"Where where's your arithmetic? Where's
[3:20:01]
your data? Where's your methodology?
[3:20:03]
It's all over my office, ma'am. I I I
[3:20:06]
would I would have to put it together."
[3:20:08]
And this is what I got on Saturday. So
[3:20:11]
if you don't want to be critiqued
[3:20:13]
and criticized, you've got to do better.
[3:20:17]
You've got This is This is pathetic. And
[3:20:20]
I don't miss I don't mince facts. I've
[3:20:22]
got facts. My data is always accurate.
[3:20:26]
It comes if it's ever inaccurate. It
[3:20:29]
comes from the staff, this staff. Um, so
[3:20:34]
you can allege that all you want. Um,
[3:20:38]
but you are wrong. You can you can
[3:20:42]
praise these people. Let me tell you
[3:20:44]
guys why he can praise these people.
[3:20:46]
They are terrified of him. He couldn't
[3:20:49]
dare they couldn't dare tell him, you
[3:20:52]
know, judge, that's not a good idea.
[3:20:55]
They'd be gone. He has whitewashed
[3:20:58]
this administrative staff. When we got
[3:21:00]
here, it was very diverse. We've got
[3:21:03]
three minorities left on this
[3:21:06]
administrative staff. So, they're
[3:21:09]
terrified of him. He's got the power.
[3:21:12]
You see? One, two, three. Those guys,
[3:21:14]
you're going to one, two, three. Lock
[3:21:16]
step. They're not going to consider you.
[3:21:20]
I am,
[3:21:24]
» Sir.
[3:21:24]
» And don't you ever say anything about
[3:21:26]
being a Marine again. My son is Marine
[3:21:28]
Captain about to be a major. and you're
[3:21:31]
embarrassing.
[3:21:33]
» Sir,
[3:21:36]
» If we're done, I was going to call the
[3:21:37]
question, but sounds like we're there.
[3:21:40]
» I I'll say one more thing. Um, the fact
[3:21:43]
that nobody listens on this DAS, it it's
[3:21:47]
just not true. In fact, you're seeing
[3:21:49]
this amendment play out. Thank you to my
[3:21:51]
friend Loretta, uh, who wish me a happy
[3:21:53]
birthday, who made a strong case for CO
[3:21:56]
as a lot of other people did after
[3:21:58]
conversations. That's why this is on
[3:22:00]
here. We talked about the Charles
[3:22:01]
Griffin Center uh that was really
[3:22:04]
important to uh Commissioner Miles
[3:22:06]
that's on here. So when you say nobody's
[3:22:09]
listening to you, that's just not true.
[3:22:10]
Taking a lot of feedback today. That's
[3:22:12]
what this amendment is all about. You're
[3:22:14]
being heard even if you don't always
[3:22:15]
agree, but those changes are being
[3:22:17]
incorporated.
[3:22:19]
» All right, question.
[3:22:21]
» Is the amendment for early voting or
[3:22:24]
election day sites or both?
[3:22:28]
» Great question. I believe the amendment
[3:22:29]
was for early voting sites is how I
[3:22:33]
interpreted it. Is that accurate?
[3:22:36]
» Yes.
[3:22:36]
» Okay.
[3:22:39]
» All right. We have
[3:22:40]
» So, we're not even addressing election
[3:22:42]
day.
[3:22:44]
At the moment, we have a motion to amend
[3:22:49]
the motion on the floor to add Bob
[3:22:52]
Duncan, Kennedale,
[3:22:55]
Tarant County College Southeast, and
[3:22:57]
Vernon Newsome Stadium to the list of
[3:22:59]
early voting sites.
[3:23:01]
Um, all those in favor, please raise
[3:23:04]
your hand.
[3:23:08]
All right, so it passes four to one.
[3:23:11]
Uh so now we have an amended motion on
[3:23:15]
the floor which is to approve the list
[3:23:19]
provided by Clint
[3:23:21]
and also to include Bob Duncan Kennedale
[3:23:26]
Tarant County College Southeast Vernon
[3:23:28]
Newsome Stadium the Northeast
[3:23:30]
Subcourthouse
[3:23:32]
KO
[3:23:34]
» Legacy Learning Center
[3:23:35]
» Legacy Learning Center and
[3:23:37]
» TCC Northwest
[3:23:39]
» TCC Northwest gest that I get them all.
[3:23:42]
All right. Uh all those in favor of
[3:23:45]
this, please raise your hand.
[3:23:48]
All right. This passes 3 to two. All
[3:23:52]
right. That is it for that item. We will
[3:23:55]
now take a 10-minute recess and be back
[3:23:57]
in here at 1:30. We are in recess.
[3:34:28]
All right, we are back from recess
[3:34:32]
and
[3:34:34]
the next item on the agenda
[3:34:38]
is item I4
[3:34:41]
from consent.
[3:34:45]
I make a motion to approve.
[3:34:48]
» All right, we have a motion and a second
[3:34:49]
to approve item I4. Let me go find I4
[3:34:54]
so I can read it.
[3:34:59]
» This is the uh consideration to approve
[3:35:01]
the changes to the EFG
[3:35:04]
» Elections Administration consideration
[3:35:06]
to approve changes to certain voting
[3:35:07]
precinct boundaries and authorized
[3:35:09]
publication of required notices. All
[3:35:12]
right, we have a motion and a second.
[3:35:14]
Discussion before we bring up the
[3:35:16]
speakers
[3:35:30]
» Have a comment, but I can wait until I
[3:35:32]
speak. Okay. Uh,
[3:35:34]
» So we have uh Dr. Valencia Edner is
[3:35:37]
first up. Following Dr. Edner, we have
[3:35:40]
Amy Super.
[3:35:55]
I guess I should thank you for the small
[3:35:57]
win.
[3:35:59]
Yet, it does not change the motive
[3:36:03]
behind the way things get done. It takes
[3:36:07]
a weak body,
[3:36:09]
executive or judicial, to continue to
[3:36:11]
keep rigging the system in its favor.
[3:36:15]
This is not politics. This is fear.
[3:36:18]
Without your schemes, the people would
[3:36:20]
speak and your power would shrink.
[3:36:23]
This boundary change is not math. It's
[3:36:26]
malice.
[3:36:28]
It's not efficiency. It's voter
[3:36:30]
suppression. steel.
[3:36:33]
If you continue to vote for these
[3:36:35]
tactics, you are not serving the people.
[3:36:37]
You are silencing them.
[3:36:40]
Your fear of a county
[3:36:43]
where white or perceived white supremacy
[3:36:46]
no longer rules has led you down a path
[3:36:49]
of exclusion.
[3:36:50]
But hear me. When you change boundaries
[3:36:54]
that you could make the adjustment to,
[3:36:56]
don't give me the lie about the law.
[3:37:00]
When you cut places for people to vote,
[3:37:04]
you cut away democracy.
[3:37:07]
When you suppress votes, you suppress
[3:37:09]
justice.
[3:37:11]
Reckoning will come not from men, but
[3:37:15]
from God.
[3:37:17]
You should have tabled the vote.
[3:37:20]
Do not enshrine voter suppression into
[3:37:23]
the history of this county. And you
[3:37:26]
cannot look at me if you don't choose
[3:37:28]
to, but you need to because I speak for
[3:37:32]
the people of Tarant County, not for the
[3:37:36]
agenda of misguided
[3:37:40]
politicians, of which unfortunately
[3:37:43]
many of you are. Fix your heart and
[3:37:47]
maybe it'll fix your mind and your
[3:37:51]
motive.
[3:37:54]
» Amy Super is next. Following Miss Super,
[3:37:56]
we have Geraldine Jackie Cox.
[3:38:04]
» Hey, just a a quick request. Won't even
[3:38:06]
use up my three minutes. Um, under the
[3:38:10]
court actions requested, I'm going to
[3:38:13]
ask that you please request Tarant
[3:38:15]
County elections to also provide
[3:38:17]
notification to both parties, current
[3:38:19]
precinct chairs. Um, so we start filing
[3:38:23]
as early as next month, September, at EC
[3:38:27]
meetings for both parties. And for me,
[3:38:29]
my precinct is changing from one that
[3:38:31]
starts with a four, the one that starts
[3:38:33]
with a two.
[3:38:34]
» What what is the request? uh that the
[3:38:36]
notification about these changes, these
[3:38:38]
are changing our precinct numbers
[3:38:40]
» And that they res they they uh provide
[3:38:42]
that notification not only to the what
[3:38:44]
they have listed here but also to the
[3:38:46]
currently seated precinct chairs for
[3:38:48]
both political parties so they know what
[3:38:50]
precinct number to file to be on the
[3:38:52]
ballot for.
[3:38:53]
» All right,
[3:38:53]
» That's all I'm asking.
[3:38:55]
» Thanks.
[3:38:56]
» Is that the whole thing? Yeah.
[3:38:57]
» Okay. So, uh, can we even do what she
[3:39:01]
just asked today sitting here the way
[3:39:03]
this is noticed or is this something
[3:39:06]
Clint's going to do anyway?
[3:39:07]
» Judge, let me check the notice and I I
[3:39:08]
will I will let you know uh with
[3:39:10]
precision.
[3:39:11]
» Okay.
[3:39:13]
So the in the process
[3:39:17]
we sent the notice that this hearing was
[3:39:19]
going to happen to the precinct chairs
[3:39:22]
that did go out the the approval then
[3:39:24]
that the notice posting here requires
[3:39:26]
the website and in the newspaper of the
[3:39:28]
changes that you that are approved but
[3:39:30]
there's we can send this out to all the
[3:39:32]
precinct chairs as well. It's it's not
[3:39:34]
hard.
[3:39:35]
» Okay. All right. Uh next is Gerald and
[3:39:37]
Jackie Cox.
[3:39:40]
Following Miss Cox we have Dr. Michael
[3:39:42]
Bell.
[3:39:45]
» Miss Cox, are you coming?
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» Thank you, commissioners. Uh my name is
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Geraldine Jackie CS
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precinct and I want to bring to your
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attention today the fact that the
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memorandum prepared uh by the
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administration's uh elections division
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cites some but fewer than all of the
[3:40:17]
statutes that really govern what may
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happen when a countywide a pre a county
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which does countywide voting
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may alter the way in which it assigns
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voting precincts.
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Uh and the first of the things which we
[3:40:34]
need to look at or that I ask you to
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look at is the text of uh our election
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code section 42.06
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that mandates that countings with voting
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age populations of more than 100,000
[3:40:50]
persons
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must produce precincts that have at
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least 100
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but no fewer than 5,000
[3:41:00]
registered voters.
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Attached to Mr. Ludig's memorandum for
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you is a chart that shows the number of
[3:41:11]
voters who will be in the new precincts
[3:41:15]
that he wants sent to the elections
[3:41:18]
board.
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Uh and precinct 2656 has two voters
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quite a few many fewer than 100.
[3:41:28]
Precincts 46 4620
[3:41:32]
has 62 voters again less than 100.
[3:41:37]
Uh but the big place where you see
[3:41:39]
deviations from what is permitted under
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another section of the election code
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which is 42.0051. 0051
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has to do not just with counts but also
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with how you make up the new precincts.
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What you do and section 42%.
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51
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provides that you uh can only change
[3:42:07]
voter precincts if you're in a county
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with a population of less than 1.2
[3:42:13]
million voters.
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So right now as of today you don't have
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authority to make the changes that are
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in part of what you propose.
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You do however you won't you'll have
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that authority when uh a bill passed by
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uh the Senate the legislature this
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session becomes law if you meet a whole
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bunch of fact
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requirements.
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Uh, and I'm not sure you do, but one of
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the requirements is that you may not
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violate the Voting Rights Act.
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And we've had a lot of evidence today
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that the manner in which this was done
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does violate the Voting Rights Act.
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» Dr. Bell,
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you're passing. Next, we have Jimmy
[3:43:06]
Blackwell.
[3:43:23]
[Music]
[3:43:25]
Judge your hair
[3:43:29]
again. I smell a rat
[3:43:32]
because some somehow the truth is not
[3:43:35]
coming through here.
[3:43:38]
You have too many people who have spoken
[3:43:40]
against this proposal to just go ahead
[3:43:44]
and force a vote and
[3:43:47]
get things done the way you want them
[3:43:49]
done.
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That's not leadership.
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Leadership is when you listen to every
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person on the court
[3:44:01]
and then you either discuss it, have a
[3:44:04]
lengthy discussion, a vibrant discussion
[3:44:07]
to see where people stand because you
[3:44:10]
have commissioners here who represent
[3:44:13]
certain precepts
[3:44:15]
and they have to go along with what
[3:44:17]
their constituents say.
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But you judge, you are over the whole
[3:44:23]
county. you don't have a precent.
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So, we would think that a person who is
[3:44:28]
over the whole county have a level head
[3:44:32]
can make sound decisions.
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But apparently that's not the case.
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So my message to the voters out there is
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first to replace you
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and to get people with integrity
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and honesty
[3:44:50]
to listen to those who elected them
[3:44:53]
like Commissioner Simmons and
[3:44:57]
Commissioner
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uh Rodri so eloquently
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explain every time we come to comm uh to
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Commissioner's
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Now, judge, I know it's against your ego
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to have an African of the diaspora woman
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challenge your authority. And I think
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I've made that point before.
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But here's the case. You should want
[3:45:25]
feedback from strong opposition so that
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you don't get a big head thinking that
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you know everything when we know that
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you don't.
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You made decision to destroy this
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county.
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I guess that's what you come to work to
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do because you do not listen to
[3:45:47]
opposition voices.
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You only listen to those voices who
[3:45:53]
agree with you even when you're wrong.
[3:45:57]
They don't present any opposition, any
[3:46:00]
feedback that may be detrimental to your
[3:46:03]
thinking.
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That's not leadership.
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That's dictatorship.
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And we don't need another Putin in
[3:46:12]
America.
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We already had one in Alaska.
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That's dictatorship. That's not good. I
[3:46:20]
smell a rat, but apparently they missed
[3:46:22]
the three blind mice.
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All right, that's all the speakers we
[3:46:28]
have for I4.
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Uh we have a motion and a second to
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approve the item. further discussion.
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» Yes. Uh while this seems simple on its
[3:46:36]
face, uh like just a routine
[3:46:40]
authorization to publish new boundaries,
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it it represents the culmination of a
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process that I have been vocally and
[3:46:50]
fundamentally opposed to from the very
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beginning.
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The mid decade racial germander was
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unnecessary and unw warranted. The 2020
[3:47:03]
census data showed our precincts were in
[3:47:06]
compliance and there was no need to
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spend taxpayer
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money on consultants to redraw maps.
[3:47:15]
This entire process has been
[3:47:17]
irresponsible
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and this map cleanup is just a drop in
[3:47:21]
the bucket compared to the consequences
[3:47:23]
both intended and
[3:47:26]
that are having to be corrected for no
[3:47:29]
real reason. Furthermore, these new
[3:47:31]
boundaries are a political and legal
[3:47:33]
travesty.
[3:47:35]
As I have said before, this is not about
[3:47:37]
fixing a problem. This is about creating
[3:47:39]
one. It is a calculated attempt to
[3:47:42]
dilute the voting power uh voting
[3:47:44]
strength of minority communities to
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silence the voices of my constituents
[3:47:50]
and to strip representation from people
[3:47:53]
of color. the UCLA Voting Rights
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Project.
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That analysis confirmed that these maps
[3:48:01]
are a textbook example of racial
[3:48:05]
gerrymandering. We've got two lawsuits
[3:48:08]
uh on the books. So this this action
[3:48:12]
today
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uh is just another necessary cleanup in
[3:48:17]
an unnecessary process that has lacked
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transparency,
[3:48:23]
public input, and moral justification.
[3:48:26]
So, I just want to be on the record to I
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want the record to reflect my continued
[3:48:31]
and unequivocal opposition to this map,
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» Which I believe um is legally
[3:48:38]
questionable, morally wrong, and a
[3:48:41]
disservice to the voters of Taran
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County.
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» All right, we have a motion, a second on
[3:48:47]
this item. Any other discussion?
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All right. Seeing none, all in favor of
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approving I4, please raise your hand.
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All right. Oppose, please raise your
[3:48:59]
hand.
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All right. It passes 3 to two. Takes us
[3:49:03]
to item I5 removed from consent. Item I5
[3:49:08]
is consideration to approve supplemental
[3:49:10]
appointments of county election judges
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and alternate election judges.
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» Move for approval.
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» Second.
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» We have a motion and a second to approve
[3:49:17]
that item. Uh, any further discussion
[3:49:20]
there before I bring the speakers?
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All right, first speaker is Amy Super.
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Following Miss Super is Jennifer Blunt.
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[Music]
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I'm asking the court to get
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clarification on what it is you're
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voting on today. So the subject is
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titled consideration to approve
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supplemental appointments of county
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election judges and alternate election
[3:49:53]
judges. You voted on a list to do that
[3:49:57]
on July 1st and that list had was not
[3:50:00]
the list that the parties submitted in
[3:50:03]
its entirety. There were names on that
[3:50:05]
list that they didn't submit. There were
[3:50:07]
names on that list that they did submit
[3:50:08]
that weren't on that list that you
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approved. So what I'm asking is this the
[3:50:12]
list now? Because if it's the list, it's
[3:50:14]
not a supplemental list. It's the list.
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Um, a supplemental list is as indicated
[3:50:20]
in the background covered in tech uh,
[3:50:22]
Texas Selection Code 32. I don't know
[3:50:25]
what. Um, it tells you in great detail
[3:50:28]
how this should be done. Um, I just
[3:50:31]
would like for you guys to get some
[3:50:32]
clarification. Is this an actual
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supplemental appointments, which you are
[3:50:36]
free to make, the law specifies that, or
[3:50:38]
is this the two-year list corrected?
[3:50:42]
Um, that would be my only question I
[3:50:45]
think with regards to that. Just change
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that so we all know what we're doing.
[3:50:49]
There are people that you approved that
[3:50:50]
are no longer on this list. So, do you
[3:50:53]
have to vote to take them off or are
[3:50:55]
they just off? Good questions to ask.
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Just want some clarity on that. Um, and
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then, um, since I have time left, I did
[3:51:04]
not address when you were talking about
[3:51:06]
the approval of the, uh, precinct
[3:51:07]
boundaries. Um, make sure because the
[3:51:11]
code is very specific about how
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» Okay. Are you are you talking about item
[3:51:17]
I5 at the moment?
[3:51:18]
» They're they're combined because it has
[3:51:20]
to do with the election judges. The way
[3:51:22]
they're aortioned has to do with the way
[3:51:24]
people voted within different precincts.
[3:51:26]
So, you've moved precincts within county
[3:51:28]
precincts. So, the aortionment of which
[3:51:31]
party gets to have the presiding judge
[3:51:32]
in each poll site has to be completely
[3:51:35]
redone. and I want to just make sure
[3:51:37]
that that's done in time for us to
[3:51:40]
adjust and get make sure our
[3:51:41]
appointments are done within alignment
[3:51:43]
with Texas election code. Thank you.
[3:51:45]
» Thank you. Is Jennifer Blunt present?
[3:51:51]
» No. Okay. Uh Clint, can you address some
[3:51:54]
of those things there?
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when we were wording the list um we did
[3:52:02]
uh consult legal on how to exactly word
[3:52:05]
the item because there are additions
[3:52:07]
from both the parties to add to this
[3:52:09]
list. Additionally, when we were going
[3:52:11]
through this um looking at the code, we
[3:52:14]
noticed that the how historically this
[3:52:18]
list had been done had been assigning
[3:52:20]
judges to precincts and as a countywide
[3:52:22]
polling location, that's not the correct
[3:52:24]
way to do it. So we went through and
[3:52:26]
changed that to make it reflect the the
[3:52:29]
proper way the list should have been
[3:52:30]
formatted and not the way that it had
[3:52:33]
been submitted prior.
[3:52:34]
» So the list that we voted on in July
[3:52:38]
was not the list submitted by the two
[3:52:41]
parties.
[3:52:42]
» It contained names of the list submitted
[3:52:44]
by the two parties. The it didn't have
[3:52:46]
all the names on the list. the
[3:52:49]
commissioner's court. Uh we had to move
[3:52:52]
up our deadline and to submit that um
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because there was only going to be the
[3:52:56]
one court. I believe it was July and the
[3:52:58]
requirement is this gets approved in
[3:53:00]
July. And
[3:53:01]
» Okay, so hang on just a second. Just so
[3:53:03]
I'm clear about what we're talking
[3:53:05]
about. The list that the parties
[3:53:08]
submitted, it's a list. It's got names.
[3:53:12]
Whatever it is, 10, 20, five, seven, it
[3:53:15]
has names.
[3:53:16]
The list that that both Well, let's
[3:53:19]
start with the Republican party. The
[3:53:20]
list the Republican party submitted. Was
[3:53:23]
that the list that showed up on the July
[3:53:25]
meeting?
[3:53:26]
» Not all of it. No, judge.
[3:53:27]
» Well, it's either the list or it isn't.
[3:53:30]
It's one or the other.
[3:53:31]
» This is the entire party list now. We've
[3:53:34]
we've worked with them to get all of
[3:53:35]
their names, all the changes.
[3:53:37]
» That's not what I'm The list that we
[3:53:39]
approved in July was not they had a list
[3:53:42]
of names, 10 names, 10 whatever we did.
[3:53:45]
That wasn't the list we voted on. There
[3:53:47]
were some people on that list that we
[3:53:49]
voted for. There were some people not on
[3:53:50]
that list that we voted for. Is that
[3:53:52]
accurate?
[3:53:53]
» Yes, judge.
[3:53:54]
» Okay. The Democrat one, was that list
[3:53:57]
correct that we voted on?
[3:53:58]
» Not all of it. No, it was missing some
[3:54:00]
names, Judge.
[3:54:00]
» All right. How did that happen?
[3:54:02]
» The when the deadline moved to submit
[3:54:04]
everything, um, we jumped through to try
[3:54:07]
to get everything onto the court. The
[3:54:09]
parties technically had till the end of
[3:54:11]
the 30th to submit, so they still had
[3:54:13]
time to give us names. They hadn't given
[3:54:14]
us all their names and then we hadn't
[3:54:16]
completed a working list and so in the
[3:54:18]
scramble to get a list to get on that
[3:54:20]
July 1st court when they compiled the
[3:54:22]
staff compiled the list they didn't get
[3:54:24]
everything and there were some names
[3:54:26]
that were missed.
[3:54:27]
» Okay. So now what we're voting on today
[3:54:31]
is the list that Republicans asked for
[3:54:35]
and the list that Democrats asked for.
[3:54:38]
» Yes, Jeff. What happens to the people
[3:54:40]
that were not on the list
[3:54:44]
that these parties submitted or either
[3:54:46]
party don't care? What happens to those
[3:54:49]
folks who were approved in July? Are
[3:54:53]
they now removed by this?
[3:54:56]
» No, this is the supplemental list. So
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the the ones the parties want to have
[3:55:00]
are all on the list. This is correcting
[3:55:04]
the the previous list and making sure we
[3:55:07]
worked with both parties to ensure that
[3:55:08]
we had every single person that they
[3:55:10]
wanted included and we had removed every
[3:55:13]
single person that they wanted removed.
[3:55:14]
» Okay. So I think the answer to the
[3:55:16]
question this list is the entire list
[3:55:20]
that each party wants and by voting for
[3:55:23]
this today does that remove anyone who
[3:55:26]
was previously voted for in July?
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Mr. Proud of bill.
[3:55:30]
» Uh I'm checking the statute right now,
[3:55:32]
judge. And um
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» I mean, basically, are we now voting on
[3:55:35]
two lists and then now the people we
[3:55:37]
voted on in July and these people are
[3:55:39]
now all on this together?
[3:55:41]
» What's the deal?
[3:55:42]
» What the what the statute contemplates
[3:55:43]
here is is the ability of the party
[3:55:45]
chairs to supplement the original list
[3:55:47]
of names that was okay.
[3:55:49]
» Submitted. So there
[3:55:49]
» The original list of names is not what
[3:55:51]
we voted on.
[3:56:02]
Let me ask you this. Would y'all We can
[3:56:05]
move on if there's no objection from the
[3:56:07]
court. We can move to some other items.
[3:56:09]
Come back to this when y'all have had
[3:56:10]
time to when you've had time to research
[3:56:13]
it and understand it.
[3:56:14]
» That would be helpful, Judge. Yes.
[3:56:16]
» Okay.
[3:56:16]
» Can we
[3:56:16]
» Come back during this court?
[3:56:18]
» That's what I meant. Yeah.
[3:56:20]
» Can we just move to table this?
[3:56:23]
» Yes.
[3:56:23]
» Was there not a deadline?
[3:56:26]
uh
[3:56:28]
the the first list of names which I
[3:56:30]
understand is kind of in flux here uh
[3:56:32]
was due to be acted upon in July and uh
[3:56:37]
there is a deadline of
[3:56:40]
15 days before a special election or 20
[3:56:42]
days before a general election. So just
[3:56:45]
from my cursory reading of the statute I
[3:56:46]
believe we have some some time to still
[3:56:49]
approve any additional supplemental
[3:56:51]
list.
[3:56:53]
So, I go back to my question,
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which
[3:56:58]
mistakes happen, wrong list, submitted,
[3:57:02]
whatever.
[3:57:04]
The the idea here was we're cleaning up
[3:57:06]
those lists, but I don't believe I've
[3:57:08]
got an answer to the question of
[3:57:10]
somebody that was voted for in July that
[3:57:14]
was not supposed to be on the list. Do
[3:57:17]
they remain
[3:57:19]
a an election and an alternate judge if
[3:57:22]
they were previously approved or is this
[3:57:25]
action taking them off?
[3:57:28]
» Judge, if we table this, I will get you
[3:57:29]
an answer to that question.
[3:57:30]
» Is there any reason we can't table this?
[3:57:33]
No, judge.
[3:57:34]
» Okay,
[3:57:36]
» Move the table.
[3:57:37]
» Well, we already Hang on. We already
[3:57:38]
have We already have a motion to
[3:57:40]
approve. Um,
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» You want me to resend my motion to
[3:57:44]
approve?
[3:57:45]
» Well, if you want to resend your motion,
[3:57:46]
you can resend your motion.
[3:57:48]
» Well, I I I guess
[3:57:49]
» But any anybody can ask questions away.
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» I I don't feel like we have to table it.
[3:57:54]
If we get the answers from Mr.
[3:57:56]
Crowdville and others by the end of this
[3:57:58]
session that satisfies everybody, but
[3:58:01]
then we can table at that point. Um, I
[3:58:04]
guess that's the way I would I would
[3:58:06]
recommend going about it. Just seeing if
[3:58:08]
we can answer the questions by the end
[3:58:09]
of the court and if not then we move to
[3:58:11]
table.
[3:58:12]
» I don't see any reason wrong with this.
[3:58:14]
Nobody the dem neither the Democrats or
[3:58:16]
the Republicans are bothered by it.
[3:58:19]
Let's just get the right answer. Um,
[3:58:23]
so
[3:58:25]
how about we
[3:58:28]
um
[3:58:30]
well, so Commissioner Miles, did you
[3:58:33]
just vote to table? Did you just make a
[3:58:34]
motion to table it?
[3:58:35]
» Yes, sir.
[3:58:36]
» How are you about Let's move on from
[3:58:39]
this item. We have a motion sitting on
[3:58:42]
the floor. Let's go to the next set of
[3:58:44]
items. Do all the stuff we're doing.
[3:58:45]
Come back before we close. See if we
[3:58:47]
have an answer.
[3:58:50]
I think it would be better just to table
[3:58:52]
this so that they can get the accurate
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information to us and clear up the
[3:58:57]
confusion because there is confusion
[3:58:59]
instead of just waiting till the end of
[3:59:01]
the court and hoping that they can
[3:59:03]
provide the accurate information to
[3:59:05]
bring clarification and clarity. I think
[3:59:08]
we should just table it until a later
[3:59:10]
date.
[3:59:12]
» Okay. So, all right. Thank you. You have
[3:59:15]
a motion and a second on the floor. Can
[3:59:17]
I can I just move to postpone?
[3:59:20]
» Yes. Either and and to be clear, the
[3:59:23]
terms table and postpone are used
[3:59:25]
synonymously in a lot of cases. Um but
[3:59:27]
in either case, what I would advise is
[3:59:29]
that does take precedent over the main
[3:59:31]
motion on the floor right now. And so it
[3:59:34]
can either be tabled or postponed until
[3:59:35]
later in the meeting or a future
[3:59:37]
meeting, whatever the court prefers.
[3:59:40]
» Okay. I don't Does anyone care up here
[3:59:42]
which one we do?
[3:59:44]
» I'd say we hold it until after closed.
[3:59:47]
and give them time to sort it out. Come
[3:59:49]
back after close. If they don't have
[3:59:50]
time at that point, we can table it for
[3:59:52]
a future meeting if they don't have
[3:59:53]
their
[3:59:54]
» Okay. So, in terms of the order of this,
[3:59:57]
he has a motion that's still sitting
[3:59:59]
there. He has made a motion to to table
[4:00:03]
the item. Doesn't seem like we have a
[4:00:06]
consensus on tableing the item. So, do I
[4:00:09]
now have to hear that motion before
[4:00:12]
going to his motion?
[4:00:14]
» That would be correct. save for. There
[4:00:16]
needs to be a second on the motion to
[4:00:17]
table and I would I would just ask that
[4:00:19]
it be to uh a particular time whether it
[4:00:21]
be after close.
[4:00:22]
» Clarify your motion.
[4:00:25]
» I move to table this to a later date.
[4:00:27]
» Okay. Do we have a second on that?
[4:00:30]
» Second.
[4:00:30]
» So we have a motion and a second to
[4:00:32]
table this item until a later date
[4:00:36]
which now has removed his motion
[4:00:39]
essentially. Or this has to be addressed
[4:00:41]
first.
[4:00:41]
» This has to be addressed first and then
[4:00:42]
you can proceed on the made motion. Does
[4:00:43]
anybody want to say something about
[4:00:45]
this?
[4:00:47]
» All right.
[4:00:47]
» Um, I I I do I want to say what I've
[4:00:50]
been saying all day. This is
[4:00:53]
unprofessional.
[4:00:54]
You're not prepared.
[4:00:57]
This is a bad look on this county and
[4:01:00]
this staff.
[4:01:03]
I'm not going to throw you a parade
[4:01:04]
because you're a nice guy. You have a
[4:01:07]
job. We should not have all these
[4:01:09]
questions. We shouldn't be confused.
[4:01:13]
Um,
[4:01:16]
it's ridiculous.
[4:01:19]
Now, y'all can pat him on the back if
[4:01:20]
you want, but this is crazy.
[4:01:23]
» We have a motion and a second to
[4:01:24]
postpone this until a later date.
[4:01:28]
Anybody else wish to weigh in?
[4:01:31]
All right. All in favor of postponing
[4:01:34]
until a later date, please raise your
[4:01:36]
hand.
[4:01:38]
All right. All those against postponing
[4:01:40]
to a later date, please raise your hand.
[4:01:43]
All right. So, the motion to postpone to
[4:01:46]
a later date
[4:01:48]
fails. So, now we have a motion to
[4:01:51]
approve sitting before us.
[4:01:53]
» And I will make a motion to postpone
[4:01:54]
till after closed. Second,
[4:01:57]
» But we had a motion.
[4:01:59]
» And now we have another.
[4:02:00]
» But he needs to rescend his other one.
[4:02:02]
» He didn't have to rescend it for him to
[4:02:04]
do it. So, I don't know why he would.
[4:02:05]
» Well, he made me resend motions earlier.
[4:02:08]
Does he Don't we have a motion on the
[4:02:10]
floor? Yes, that is correct,
[4:02:12]
Commissioner. Except for the fact that a
[4:02:13]
motion to table or a motion to postpone
[4:02:15]
takes precedent over the main motion on
[4:02:16]
the floor.
[4:02:16]
» Voted on that one.
[4:02:17]
» It's a different motion.
[4:02:19]
» I'm talking to the
[4:02:20]
» And I'm and I'm and I run the court and
[4:02:22]
it's a different motion and so we're
[4:02:24]
going to hear the motion.
[4:02:24]
» So, we heard that motion. There was a
[4:02:26]
there was an uh there was a motion on
[4:02:28]
the floor. Correct.
[4:02:30]
» The the motion to table uh was heard and
[4:02:33]
now you're on to the main motion, but
[4:02:35]
there has now been another motion to
[4:02:36]
table or a motion to postpone which
[4:02:38]
takes precedent over the underlying
[4:02:40]
motion.
[4:02:41]
» Correct.
[4:02:42]
» So, we have a motion to postpone until
[4:02:45]
after closed to see if we have an
[4:02:48]
answer. Is that your motion?
[4:02:49]
» That's it.
[4:02:49]
» Do we have a second?
[4:02:51]
» Second.
[4:02:51]
» We have a second. Any further
[4:02:53]
discussion?
[4:02:55]
All right. All in favor of this motion
[4:02:58]
to postpone until after close, please
[4:03:01]
raise your hand.
[4:03:03]
Okay. All those opposed?
[4:03:06]
So the motion to postpone until after
[4:03:09]
close passes 3 to two.
[4:03:12]
Uh now
[4:03:14]
we move to
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I believe in this order it is J1
[4:03:29]
um
[4:03:31]
which is consideration of a community
[4:03:33]
facilities facilities agreement with the
[4:03:35]
city of Fort Worth related to utility
[4:03:37]
improvements for the Plaza garage
[4:03:39]
expansion expansion project including
[4:03:41]
the 2025 5 capital improvement program.
[4:03:45]
So, this was the same thing we addressed
[4:03:50]
two meetings or two weeks ago, I should
[4:03:52]
say,
[4:03:53]
» Where Fort Worth wanted to charge us
[4:03:55]
$76,000 or so to inspect our parking
[4:03:58]
garage
[4:04:00]
and we failed this item and now there's
[4:04:05]
a reason you have brought it back. Would
[4:04:07]
you please tell everyone what that is?
[4:04:10]
» Yes, sir. to the unenviable task of
[4:04:12]
returning something to the court. My
[4:04:13]
apologies. Um the the community
[4:04:16]
facilities agreement is, as you know, an
[4:04:19]
agreement between the county and the
[4:04:21]
city for modifications to their public
[4:04:23]
improvements. They have public
[4:04:25]
improvements within the foundation lines
[4:04:27]
of our current ongoing plaza garage
[4:04:30]
project.
[4:04:32]
And the approval of this would allow us
[4:04:35]
to continue um the expedited
[4:04:39]
construction of that garage. A
[4:04:42]
disapproval will cause us as a county to
[4:04:46]
have to put a stop work notice to the
[4:04:48]
work or a portion of the work at which
[4:04:51]
place puts the county at risk for
[4:04:53]
additional costs to the contractor.
[4:04:55]
» And when does when is that and how is
[4:04:58]
that additional cost triggered? uh it's
[4:05:02]
triggered by a stop work notice. In
[4:05:03]
other words, if we as the county or the
[4:05:06]
owner cause something or do not
[4:05:08]
facilitate something that allows
[4:05:10]
progression of the work and it impacts
[4:05:12]
the extending duration of the
[4:05:14]
construction contract.
[4:05:15]
» Okay. Has anyone had a discussion with
[4:05:18]
our contractor as to how they would play
[4:05:20]
this while we work this out with Fort
[4:05:23]
Worth or try to?
[4:05:25]
» Yes, actually. It's been a hot topic
[4:05:27]
with the contractor for about two
[4:05:29]
months.
[4:05:30]
» Okay. Okay. Um between the previous
[4:05:33]
court and this court, we've been able to
[4:05:35]
facilitate the work without causing any
[4:05:37]
further hindrance. Uh at this point,
[4:05:39]
delay is pretty close to impending. The
[4:05:42]
existing sanitary sewer line that needs
[4:05:44]
to be modified runs immediately adjacent
[4:05:46]
to the tower crane foundations which are
[4:05:48]
going in now. The tower crane
[4:05:50]
mobilization is scheduled for this
[4:05:52]
coming weekend.
[4:05:53]
» Okay. Uh Mr. Merritt, tell us where we
[4:05:58]
are with the city of Fort Worth and any
[4:06:00]
discussions. Tell us what where we
[4:06:03]
stand.
[4:06:03]
» Sure. So, uh, the facility staff has
[4:06:06]
been trying to work with Fort Worth on
[4:06:08]
seeing what we could do with regards to
[4:06:10]
any reduction or waiver of fees from the
[4:06:13]
city. Um, most of what my feedback has
[4:06:16]
been, most of those folks at that level
[4:06:17]
aren't really authorized to make that
[4:06:19]
level of a decision with regards to
[4:06:20]
reducing those fees. Uh I've reached out
[4:06:23]
directly to the city manager for Fort
[4:06:25]
Worth uh to see if uh he at his level uh
[4:06:29]
or the council's level would be willing
[4:06:30]
to reduce or wave the fees on our
[4:06:33]
behalf. And I'm currently waiting to
[4:06:35]
hear back from him on on that. So when
[4:06:38]
we
[4:06:40]
when three of us here took office in
[4:06:42]
January of 23,
[4:06:46]
we had multiple meetings with Fort Worth
[4:06:49]
asking them to
[4:06:52]
allow us to do video magistration
[4:06:55]
to alleviate jail population problems.
[4:06:59]
Uh, in one particular meeting I was in
[4:07:02]
with the sheriff, the chief of police. I
[4:07:06]
say that I think the chief was there. If
[4:07:08]
not, there there were multiple assistant
[4:07:09]
chiefs whether Chief Nos was there or
[4:07:11]
not. Uh, the mayor, the then city
[4:07:14]
manager, and probably five, six other
[4:07:17]
people. And they were all, "Yes, we want
[4:07:19]
to help." We're on board. That was
[4:07:22]
approximately February of 23.
[4:07:25]
I don't believe we actually got approval
[4:07:29]
to do the video magistration
[4:07:32]
at Fort Worth holding facility or what
[4:07:34]
at their police station until August
[4:07:38]
of 24.
[4:07:40]
Um is any part of that I said not
[4:07:43]
accurate?
[4:07:44]
» I can't speak specifically to the
[4:07:46]
timeline, but um but that sounds about
[4:07:49]
correct.
[4:07:50]
» Okay. And so where I'm going with this
[4:07:52]
is um
[4:07:55]
Fort Worth
[4:07:57]
wants
[4:07:59]
a good partner in Tarant County and I
[4:08:02]
think it's beneficial for the residents
[4:08:04]
of Fort Worth and the residents of
[4:08:07]
Tarant County to have a good partnership
[4:08:09]
with Fort Worth. Um,
[4:08:13]
but the idea that we're going to pay
[4:08:16]
$76,000 to improve our parking garage
[4:08:20]
and traffic and street parking, which
[4:08:23]
will allow, I believe, more revenue for
[4:08:26]
the city of Fort Worth with all the
[4:08:28]
parking meters that I think goes to them
[4:08:29]
anyway. And then we can't even get them
[4:08:32]
to return a call and get with us on how
[4:08:34]
we can deal with this. Uh, I I it
[4:08:38]
doesn't sit well with me. I it shouldn't
[4:08:40]
sit well with with any of us. I would
[4:08:42]
hope. But may maybe this is one where we
[4:08:44]
can have some bipartisanship. I don't
[4:08:46]
know. But here here's what I would my
[4:08:50]
opinion. We need to pass it to avoid
[4:08:52]
penalties.
[4:08:53]
Um, what I would d ask the staff to do
[4:08:59]
is to
[4:09:01]
uh, and by the way, I have set up a
[4:09:03]
meeting with the mayor tomorrow on this
[4:09:05]
very topic. And uh I would ask our staff
[4:09:11]
to go research, assuming today passes,
[4:09:14]
which I don't know that it will, but
[4:09:15]
assuming it does, um to go research what
[4:09:20]
we could do to revoke
[4:09:25]
andor reconsider the tiffs we passed at
[4:09:28]
the end of last year to recoup this kind
[4:09:31]
of money.
[4:09:33]
Um, I would like the staff to go do
[4:09:36]
research on how we could use that tiff
[4:09:38]
money for any remaining costs on the
[4:09:41]
parking garage, including the inspection
[4:09:44]
cost that they are charging. Um, I would
[4:09:49]
also include in that JPS.
[4:09:52]
I know there are fees that they want to
[4:09:55]
charge JPS
[4:09:57]
for how they build the tower.
[4:10:01]
Um, and so I think in a nutshell, it's
[4:10:05]
please present us options on what
[4:10:07]
amendments,
[4:10:10]
revocations, and approvals
[4:10:12]
we have with the downtown TIFF to ensure
[4:10:16]
a fair and balanced partnership with the
[4:10:18]
city. And by that what I mean there is
[4:10:24]
if you can't
[4:10:27]
amend it
[4:10:29]
then one option is you could revoke it
[4:10:34]
and pass it again
[4:10:37]
and take dollar for dollar that charge
[4:10:39]
out of by percentage what we allow them
[4:10:42]
to have. So I believe it's 35% over 20
[4:10:45]
years is what you told me last time.
[4:10:48]
Whatever it may be, calculate the number
[4:10:50]
32%,
[4:10:52]
30%, whatever it is, I'm asking you to
[4:10:55]
bring back those options. This is not
[4:10:57]
part of a motion or a vote. I want to
[4:10:59]
explore those options in the whole court
[4:11:00]
to be able to look at it.
[4:11:04]
» Okay.
[4:11:04]
» So,
[4:11:05]
» Questions, comments?
[4:11:07]
» Yes.
[4:11:09]
So
[4:11:11]
having uh city of Fort Worth not eagerly
[4:11:17]
embrace video magistration was was
[4:11:20]
problematic.
[4:11:21]
Um I'm not sure I I got tired of asking.
[4:11:25]
I'm not sure how many people they're
[4:11:26]
even
[4:11:28]
um magistrating now.
[4:11:32]
Um but another
[4:11:35]
um
[4:11:37]
uh source
[4:11:39]
of revenue or partnership we should be
[4:11:42]
getting from city of Fort Worth. I've
[4:11:44]
said this before
[4:11:47]
several times is to stop taking their
[4:11:51]
inmates
[4:11:53]
um without them paying for them. City of
[4:11:58]
Austin and Travis County have an
[4:12:00]
agreement.
[4:12:01]
City of Austin pays Travis County to
[4:12:05]
take their inmates
[4:12:07]
till a case is filed. City of Dallas,
[4:12:11]
Dallas County, same contract. We just
[4:12:14]
take the city uh Fort Worth PD's
[4:12:17]
inmates.
[4:12:19]
um if you want to look at recouping cost
[4:12:24]
um
[4:12:25]
and this
[4:12:28]
revoking of TIFFs is not the answer. I
[4:12:34]
mean this is an attack on economic
[4:12:36]
development. Pulling out of the TUR or
[4:12:39]
TIFF will throw the developers funding
[4:12:41]
plans out of whack for just $75,000.
[4:12:46]
uh potentially delaying development and
[4:12:49]
possibly
[4:12:51]
cancellation due to funding gaps. So
[4:12:53]
that that's not the answer. Um you know,
[4:12:57]
it's it's as as much as we give and do
[4:13:01]
uh for Fort Worth at a detriment to to
[4:13:06]
the county. Um I'm not jumping up about
[4:13:09]
down about paying this 7576,000,
[4:13:12]
whatever it is. Um but we've got we've
[4:13:15]
got to do it. But there are other ways
[4:13:18]
um
[4:13:20]
you know to charge
[4:13:24]
uh city of Fort Worth.
[4:13:27]
» Move for approval of item J1.
[4:13:30]
» We have a motion to approve item J1.
[4:13:34]
» Second.
[4:13:34]
» Second.
[4:13:35]
» We have a second.
[4:13:37]
Uh further discussion before vote.
[4:13:42]
So, um I have one point I would like to
[4:13:44]
make and that is there is no money from
[4:13:49]
Tarant County in this tiff
[4:13:52]
guaranteed to go towards anything.
[4:13:56]
There is no development project that
[4:13:59]
will be interrupted or stopped because
[4:14:02]
Tarant County when we pass the TIF
[4:14:07]
maintain the right to approve any and
[4:14:09]
all projects
[4:14:11]
that Tarant County tax money in the TIF
[4:14:14]
would go towards. So if a developer,
[4:14:18]
which I highly doubt, is currently
[4:14:20]
banking on our portion to go towards any
[4:14:25]
project, we haven't taken a single vote
[4:14:28]
for it.
[4:14:29]
And uh I doubt very seriously there is
[4:14:32]
some project moving forward at the
[4:14:35]
moment that is counting on our specific
[4:14:39]
percentage
[4:14:41]
but also revising the tiff or re
[4:14:45]
renegotiating voting it down adding a
[4:14:48]
new one. Um
[4:14:50]
we are part of downtown. We have lots of
[4:14:53]
costs that we have to incur
[4:14:56]
and
[4:14:58]
bringing them to the table can benefit
[4:15:01]
everyone in Tarant County. Uh and that's
[4:15:05]
what a healthy partnership is. My
[4:15:07]
intention here is not to create a war
[4:15:09]
with the city of Fort Worth. In fact,
[4:15:10]
it's the opposite. It's to ensure basic
[4:15:13]
fairness between the two entities. And
[4:15:15]
right now, it certainly doesn't seem
[4:15:17]
like it's a two-way street. It seems
[4:15:21]
like it's a one-way street. I'd like to
[4:15:23]
make sure it's a two-way street. So, any
[4:15:26]
other comments
[4:15:28]
or questions before we vote.
[4:15:32]
All right, seeing none, we have a motion
[4:15:34]
and a second to approve this item. All
[4:15:36]
in favor, raise your hand.
[4:15:39]
All right, passes five to zero.
[4:15:45]
Uh, next we go, if I have my thing down
[4:15:49]
correctly, to 01, public health
[4:15:52]
consideration of changes to the Tarant
[4:15:54]
County public health fee schedule.
[4:15:59]
Dr. Bird.
[4:16:01]
Thank you, Judge and Commissioner Brian
[4:16:03]
Bird, public health. I have with me
[4:16:05]
Sabrina Vidari, who is our associate
[4:16:08]
director over environmental health. she
[4:16:10]
handles uh restaurant inspections and
[4:16:13]
that's what we're talking about today.
[4:16:15]
Uh we are responding to Senate Bill
[4:16:18]
10008
[4:16:20]
which requires as of September 1 uh that
[4:16:24]
we comply with the Department of State
[4:16:26]
Health Services fees uh for all of our
[4:16:29]
inspections on fixed food service and
[4:16:31]
mobile food service.
[4:16:33]
Uh since I am not an expert on
[4:16:37]
restaurant inspection and I like to hear
[4:16:39]
from experts, uh I've asked Miss Bedari
[4:16:43]
uh to present this uh this series of
[4:16:45]
slides, this slide deck, and walk us
[4:16:47]
through uh our approach to this as we
[4:16:50]
attempted to uh to present a proposed
[4:16:54]
fee schedule that balances uh we want to
[4:16:56]
keep everybody healthy and we don't want
[4:16:58]
to be ownorous on our local businesses
[4:17:00]
and trying to walk that line. So without
[4:17:02]
further ado, I'll turn it over to
[4:17:03]
Sabrina. Sabrina,
[4:17:07]
» Good afternoon.
[4:17:09]
Can y'all hear me? Okay. Okay.
[4:17:10]
» Yes, ma'am.
[4:17:11]
» So before I start the presentation, I
[4:17:13]
would like to let you know that the fee
[4:17:15]
schedule methodology has changed based
[4:17:18]
on the state law. Our current fee
[4:17:21]
schedule methodology was on square
[4:17:22]
footage and the state law puts us that
[4:17:26]
we would need to use the Texas
[4:17:29]
Department of State Health Services fee
[4:17:31]
schedule and theirs is off of gross
[4:17:33]
annual food sales volume sales. So um
[4:17:37]
the first slide so we have separated it
[4:17:39]
out amongst the different categories of
[4:17:41]
inspections due to that to try to make
[4:17:43]
it more clear for you. So fixed food are
[4:17:47]
just like that. They're establishments
[4:17:48]
that don't move. their brickandmortar
[4:17:50]
type of establishments.
[4:17:53]
They um you can see all of the fees. Our
[4:17:57]
current fee schedule is on the left. The
[4:17:59]
proposed fee schedule is on the right
[4:18:01]
with the current Texas Department of
[4:18:03]
State Health Services fee schedule in
[4:18:05]
the middle.
[4:18:07]
We have aligned our fee schedule um with
[4:18:10]
the Texas Department of State Health
[4:18:12]
Services with the exception of the
[4:18:14]
highest fee schedule which is for
[4:18:16]
$150,000 or more of gross annual food
[4:18:19]
sales. That cap is $773
[4:18:23]
and we have dropped it to 700.
[4:18:27]
The reason why we have dropped it to 700
[4:18:29]
is because we do believe that there may
[4:18:32]
be a majority of establishments that
[4:18:34]
fall into this category. So some of the
[4:18:37]
establishments may see a fee increase
[4:18:40]
and others may see a fee decrease. I do
[4:18:43]
not have any information on our
[4:18:45]
establishments as to where they would
[4:18:47]
fall in this. It is not information that
[4:18:49]
we had previously collected from any of
[4:18:51]
our permit holders.
[4:18:57]
Okay.
[4:18:58]
Do you want me to move on or is there a
[4:19:00]
question?
[4:19:00]
» So, are we the the proposed free SK fee
[4:19:03]
schedule on the right
[4:19:06]
150,000 or more is in sales, right?
[4:19:10]
» It is gross annual volume of food sales.
[4:19:13]
Yes. It is not revenue. It's gross
[4:19:16]
annual volume of food sales.
[4:19:19]
» I'm sorry. It sounded like you just said
[4:19:20]
it is something and then repeated the
[4:19:22]
exact same thing and said it isn't. It
[4:19:23]
is not revenue. A lot of people, a lot
[4:19:25]
of people get them confused. It's not
[4:19:26]
based off of revenue of the
[4:19:28]
establishment. It's based off of gross
[4:19:30]
annual food sales, which is before
[4:19:32]
taxes, before any deductions that would
[4:19:34]
come out from revenue.
[4:19:35]
» Is revenue different than that?
[4:19:37]
» Revenue comes after tax deductions and
[4:19:40]
exemptions.
[4:19:41]
» Okay. So, on the 150,000 or more, pick
[4:19:45]
one, doesn't matter. How how do we now
[4:19:47]
plan to go determine that?
[4:19:49]
So the that process
[4:19:51]
» Fill out a form.
[4:19:53]
» Well, they will have to submit. So it's
[4:19:54]
proprietary information. So they'll have
[4:19:56]
to give us this information which would
[4:19:58]
the best way is to give us their last
[4:20:00]
tax returns so they can prove if they do
[4:20:03]
not meet this category. We have asked
[4:20:05]
the state department of state health
[4:20:07]
services. They use the comprollers's
[4:20:10]
office and we have asked the
[4:20:11]
comprollers's office, the state
[4:20:12]
comproller if they would assist us with
[4:20:14]
this and they told us no, that it was
[4:20:16]
proprietary information.
[4:20:18]
So, we had talked about it with other
[4:20:21]
jurisdictions and that's what other
[4:20:22]
jurisdictions are doing as well. They're
[4:20:24]
setting it at the top and then we're
[4:20:26]
messaging out to all of these
[4:20:28]
establishments that if you feel you're
[4:20:29]
in the wrong category, please get with
[4:20:31]
us to provide the proper documentation
[4:20:33]
so that way we can lower that category.
[4:20:36]
» Do we have a different way of doing this
[4:20:39]
besides so if you take 150,000 in gross
[4:20:42]
sales?
[4:20:44]
I mean, the possibility exists that the
[4:20:46]
profit out of that is like 15 or 20
[4:20:49]
grand. Like, that wouldn't be unusual in
[4:20:51]
the food industry, whatever it may be.
[4:20:54]
Let's call it call it 50,000. Call it
[4:20:57]
100,000. Do we have a way to determine
[4:20:59]
if they're 150,000 or more other than
[4:21:02]
asking for their tax returns?
[4:21:05]
» No, it is.
[4:21:06]
» I'm just not real comfortable with us
[4:21:08]
requesting people's tax returns. So the
[4:21:09]
the way this would come up is if
[4:21:12]
somebody's claiming they have less than
[4:21:14]
50,000 in sales
[4:21:17]
and what we don't believe them or we're
[4:21:19]
just asking everyone to give us their
[4:21:21]
tax returns.
[4:21:22]
» I was just trying to use the same
[4:21:23]
methodology that the state of Texas has
[4:21:25]
set with all of the establishments. Um
[4:21:27]
we can most certainly change that. This
[4:21:30]
program does pay for all of the
[4:21:32]
personnel and supplies. Um the county
[4:21:35]
does not put in additional information
[4:21:37]
with that funding for that. And we do
[4:21:39]
have 30 ILAS with incorporated cities
[4:21:42]
and DFW airport. So we have about what
[4:21:46]
was it 3500
[4:21:48]
6,000 permits total
[4:21:51]
» And we have about 1,500 to 2,000 that
[4:21:53]
are pool permits. So the rest are some
[4:21:56]
sort of food permit.
[4:21:57]
» So if somebody says on their form, yeah,
[4:22:00]
we have more than 150,000 in gross
[4:22:02]
sales, we're not asking for their tax
[4:22:03]
return.
[4:22:04]
» Correct. We were going to set everybody
[4:22:05]
at the high one and ask them to come and
[4:22:08]
prove it to us if they need to lower it.
[4:22:10]
» Okay.
[4:22:12]
» If the if the state of Texas is already
[4:22:14]
doing this, does that mean the comp
[4:22:16]
controller has those numbers somewhere
[4:22:18]
that we could pull from and not have the
[4:22:21]
business owners send it to us as well or
[4:22:24]
is there not enough communication
[4:22:26]
between those two entities to get that
[4:22:27]
info? So, in asking the controllers's
[4:22:30]
office, they notified us that that was
[4:22:31]
proprietary information and they would
[4:22:33]
not give it to us.
[4:22:36]
» Are any of the proposed fees an increase
[4:22:40]
over the current fees?
[4:22:43]
» So, for some of the establishments, it
[4:22:45]
may be an increase. So, if I could just
[4:22:48]
explain like the less than 500 square f
[4:22:50]
feet of our current fee schedule, that
[4:22:52]
is $400. That would generally be like a
[4:22:57]
small subway or a drive-thru
[4:22:59]
establishment just to give you an idea
[4:23:00]
of what they would be. They may increase
[4:23:03]
to that 700
[4:23:08]
» And that is required by the state.
[4:23:12]
» So the law states that we have to use
[4:23:14]
the same methodology that this Texas
[4:23:17]
Department of State Health Services is
[4:23:19]
using.
[4:23:21]
They do not use unfortunately square
[4:23:23]
footage.
[4:23:25]
» Okay. Is there anything else that's an
[4:23:27]
increase in fees
[4:23:29]
» On this slide? No sir. I would like to
[4:23:32]
point out temporary foods. So the state
[4:23:34]
has a temporary food permit for 1 to 14
[4:23:36]
days and they charge everybody $52. Most
[4:23:39]
of our temporary food permits come to 1
[4:23:42]
to five days and our current schedule is
[4:23:44]
35 and we did not feel any need to
[4:23:46]
increase that. Um it is decreasing for
[4:23:50]
the 6 to 14 days down $10 because we are
[4:23:54]
allowed to take 120% of the fee
[4:23:57]
schedule. So from 70 it went down to 60.
[4:24:00]
That is a very small amount over 90% of
[4:24:03]
our temporary permits are 1 to 5 days.
[4:24:07]
Those are date and location specific
[4:24:09]
permits. They do not allow them to roam
[4:24:11]
around. So they may be festivals or
[4:24:15]
organizations doing um some kind of food
[4:24:18]
sales for fundraising for them is
[4:24:19]
usually who's pulling.
[4:24:20]
» So like if somebody does a bake sale for
[4:24:23]
their neighborhood PTA, are they
[4:24:24]
supposed to come get a one-day permit?
[4:24:27]
» Well, if they're selling hot dogs,
[4:24:29]
cookies are not bake sales are exempt
[4:24:31]
from that. But in that scenario, yes,
[4:24:33]
they would have to get that permit.
[4:24:34]
» Okay. So, so I think you said it
[4:24:36]
earlier, but just to clarify, the the
[4:24:39]
fee structure that we have and the fees
[4:24:40]
that we impose are to subsidize the cost
[4:24:44]
of our employees going out there and
[4:24:45]
doing these inspections to make sure
[4:24:46]
that there's healthy food being served
[4:24:48]
by these establishments and temporary
[4:24:50]
places. It's not a profit center for the
[4:24:54]
county. Is that correct?
[4:24:55]
» Correct. And by state law, it cannot be
[4:24:57]
profitable and it does have to go into
[4:24:58]
its own fund. And that's why it's more
[4:25:00]
special fund F223.
[4:25:03]
» Thanks. Would
[4:25:07]
you like me to move on to the next
[4:25:08]
slide? Okay, sure.
[4:25:09]
» So the next one is mobile food units. So
[4:25:10]
this one gets a little bit more
[4:25:12]
complicated. So in 2023, the
[4:25:14]
jurisdiction for all mobile food units
[4:25:16]
did move to Tarant County. So we were
[4:25:19]
permitting all of them. This past year
[4:25:22]
in the 2025 legislative session, the
[4:25:25]
state has moved the mobile food
[4:25:27]
jurisdiction to the state of Texas.
[4:25:29]
However, that is not coming into effect
[4:25:33]
until June of 2026 because they do not
[4:25:36]
they need to set up their program for
[4:25:38]
that first. So, we need to lower our
[4:25:41]
fees in order to come in line with
[4:25:43]
Senate Bill 10008.
[4:25:45]
But we will not be taking any of these
[4:25:47]
fees beyond June of 2026. People will
[4:25:51]
have to get their mobile vending permit
[4:25:53]
from the state of Texas. Currently, the
[4:25:55]
state of Texas is indicating that they
[4:25:57]
will give reciprocity to anybody who has
[4:26:00]
a current permit from a local
[4:26:02]
jurisdiction when that occurs.
[4:26:08]
» I bet you're happy.
[4:26:10]
» Will this will this necessitate a
[4:26:11]
reduction in workforce? Do we have
[4:26:13]
people that specifically do mobile or do
[4:26:14]
we or they they do all of it?
[4:26:17]
» So, in consumer health, they do all of
[4:26:19]
it. We do have a few that are dedicated.
[4:26:21]
I happen to have four positions that
[4:26:23]
recently became vacated that we are
[4:26:26]
going to hold to see what the revenue
[4:26:28]
comes in to see if we can fill those
[4:26:30]
positions or not.
[4:26:30]
» Got it. Thanks.
[4:26:38]
» ISDS is another change. So, independent
[4:26:41]
school districts,
[4:26:44]
currently the state of Texas does
[4:26:45]
require them to apply by September of
[4:26:50]
every year in order to receive their
[4:26:52]
inspections. So, ISDs are a nonprofit
[4:26:55]
and they're their own governmental
[4:26:57]
agency. They're not required to get a
[4:26:58]
permit. However, they do have to have
[4:27:01]
one inspection in the spring and one
[4:27:03]
inspection in the fall for their USDA
[4:27:05]
funding, which covers free and reduced
[4:27:07]
lunch.
[4:27:09]
So, the methodology that we chose to go
[4:27:12]
is that and they charge I know I wrote
[4:27:14]
it a little weird on their fee schedule.
[4:27:16]
It looks like it's $150, but they
[4:27:18]
actually charge $150 each inspection for
[4:27:21]
the spring and for the fall. And I am
[4:27:23]
proposing that we give both of those
[4:27:25]
inspections for $150 and not for 300.
[4:27:28]
There are some ISDs who have a
[4:27:30]
third-party contractor that runs their
[4:27:33]
kitchens for them. that must be approved
[4:27:36]
by the Texas Department of Agriculture.
[4:27:38]
We do have a public information request
[4:27:40]
in in order to get the proper amount in
[4:27:43]
Tarant County ISDs of who would fall
[4:27:45]
under this. And then we will have to
[4:27:47]
notify the ISDs of who may not have a
[4:27:50]
permit currently and who does. We also
[4:27:52]
have an interlocal agreement with Fort
[4:27:54]
Worth ISD which would need to be updated
[4:27:57]
in order to comply with this fee
[4:27:59]
schedule
[4:28:01]
» On the ISD required cafeteria
[4:28:04]
inspection. Then the ISD school
[4:28:05]
cafeteria operated by profit profit
[4:28:08]
private contractor.
[4:28:10]
» Yes sir.
[4:28:10]
» Uh for-profit private contractor. Why
[4:28:13]
the difference between the fees?
[4:28:15]
» Because that is the way the state of
[4:28:16]
Texas does it. The for-profit contractor
[4:28:18]
is not a nonprofit and so they're
[4:28:21]
required to have a permit. State law
[4:28:23]
exempts any nonprofit from permitting.
[4:28:25]
» Okay. This we're not just following here
[4:28:27]
what the state does. We're following
[4:28:29]
state law.
[4:28:30]
» Correct.
[4:28:30]
» Okay.
[4:28:35]
» And now on to nonprofits. So currently
[4:28:38]
nonprofits, you know, they're not
[4:28:39]
required to have any permits and they
[4:28:41]
don't require to have any fees. Texas
[4:28:43]
Department of State Health Services will
[4:28:45]
not inspect a nonprofit unless they
[4:28:47]
apply for an inspection. Here in Tarant
[4:28:50]
County, we have some nonprofits. We have
[4:28:53]
roughly 600 of them that do have permits
[4:28:56]
and we conduct inspections with them.
[4:28:59]
Um, most of them happen to be ISV
[4:29:01]
concession type stands. Some of them are
[4:29:05]
like lounges uh not loun not bars like
[4:29:11]
veterans lounges you know that are
[4:29:13]
nonprofits and meals on wheels is one of
[4:29:16]
them. So what are we suggesting because
[4:29:18]
we do have those four vacant positions
[4:29:20]
is that we continue to give one free
[4:29:22]
inspection a year and if they feel they
[4:29:24]
need another inspection then they can
[4:29:26]
pay for that inspection but we did lower
[4:29:30]
it to 100 from 150
[4:29:38]
child care centers. So, as the note
[4:29:41]
says, back in 2010, the actual
[4:29:44]
regulation of child care centers moved
[4:29:46]
to a different agency within Texas HHSC.
[4:29:51]
And when that happened, the Department
[4:29:54]
of State Health Services Food Inspectors
[4:29:56]
did not permit or inspect child care
[4:29:59]
centers.
[4:30:02]
We So, with that, this bill says that we
[4:30:04]
cannot charge anybody a permit that is
[4:30:07]
higher than what the state is. So they
[4:30:09]
have taken child care centers out of our
[4:30:11]
jurisdiction.
[4:30:13]
So since they are a highly susceptible
[4:30:15]
population, we still want to work with
[4:30:17]
the child care centers and allow them to
[4:30:21]
request an inspection of their child
[4:30:23]
care center and to charge them the same
[4:30:25]
that we would charge a nonprofit that
[4:30:27]
$100.
[4:30:35]
So this is the full fee schedule. As I
[4:30:38]
noted before, pools are also conducted
[4:30:40]
by this group. Pool inspections. Um
[4:30:44]
these fees are not changing. What is new
[4:30:46]
here is a late fee. In the past year,
[4:30:49]
we've had 30% of our pools be delinquent
[4:30:52]
by more than 90 days in paying for their
[4:30:55]
pool permits. And we are hoping that by
[4:30:58]
instituting the late fee that they will
[4:31:00]
come into compliance and to keep that
[4:31:03]
permit maintained. By law, if you have
[4:31:06]
water in that pool, you're required to
[4:31:08]
keep it maintained, which requires a
[4:31:10]
permit. And it does take a lot of leg
[4:31:12]
work from our inspectors to go out and
[4:31:14]
constantly remind them that they are
[4:31:15]
delinquent on their permit and they need
[4:31:17]
to pay. Previously, we did not have any
[4:31:19]
late fees for pools.
[4:31:21]
» A permit is annual.
[4:31:23]
» Yes, sir.
[4:31:24]
» So, if they are 30 64 days late,
[4:31:29]
they're they get a $100 fee. If they're
[4:31:32]
three days late, they get a $100 fee or
[4:31:34]
fine.
[4:31:34]
» Yes. Yes, sir. It's $100 the day. So,
[4:31:37]
all of our permits expire on the 10th of
[4:31:39]
a month. So, by the 11th of a month,
[4:31:41]
those late fees would come into play.
[4:31:44]
» And these pools, tell me what just give
[4:31:47]
me.
[4:31:48]
» So, they're all public and semi-public
[4:31:50]
pools. So, they could be operated by
[4:31:52]
municipalities,
[4:31:54]
homeowners associations,
[4:31:57]
um, other public pools like the YMCA or
[4:32:00]
apartments
[4:32:03]
» When when they're late.
[4:32:06]
I mean, obviously, we're trying to keep
[4:32:08]
the public safe,
[4:32:10]
» Correct?
[4:32:10]
» You're testing.
[4:32:12]
When they request the permit, what do we
[4:32:15]
do?
[4:32:16]
So, whenever you're a new establishment,
[4:32:18]
you request a permit for pools
[4:32:20]
specifically, they're before they put it
[4:32:21]
into the ground, we have them go through
[4:32:22]
a plan review process. We used to have
[4:32:25]
plan review fees, but the state of Texas
[4:32:26]
does not. So, we have taken all of those
[4:32:28]
away. And um pools are pretty
[4:32:31]
complicated. There's usually four or
[4:32:33]
five inspections before they are
[4:32:35]
finished making that pool because if
[4:32:37]
they put the gunnite down, which is what
[4:32:39]
you would walk on in a pool and the
[4:32:40]
plumbing is incorrect, it is
[4:32:42]
astronomical for them to tear that up in
[4:32:45]
order to fix it. So, we go do a lot of
[4:32:47]
inspections that way. Once it's
[4:32:49]
permitted, you get inspected one to two
[4:32:52]
times a year. We try to do one at least
[4:32:54]
in the summer months when it's being
[4:32:56]
used and one outside because there are a
[4:32:58]
lot of violations, say for fencing or
[4:33:00]
for things coming into the poolard that
[4:33:02]
shouldn't be there that allows things to
[4:33:04]
climb over that needs to be addressed.
[4:33:08]
If they're in not in compliance, then
[4:33:10]
they will be closed. If they're in with
[4:33:12]
a municipality with an ILA, we'll notify
[4:33:15]
them. We're very good at getting people
[4:33:17]
to come into compliance and the
[4:33:18]
municipalities don't really need to
[4:33:21]
assist us with people coming into
[4:33:22]
compliance, but sometimes they do. Um,
[4:33:25]
and we don't charge any kind of
[4:33:27]
reinspection fee for that at all. We
[4:33:30]
just work with them to come into
[4:33:31]
compliance and then reopen those
[4:33:33]
» When they're late on their permit.
[4:33:38]
» They should technically
[4:33:39]
» How often have you closed them down?
[4:33:41]
» They do. That is a procedure in order to
[4:33:43]
go and close the pool. uh
[4:33:45]
» Whether they close it or not. Sometimes,
[4:33:47]
you know, when you're talking about
[4:33:48]
HOAs, it's hard to get people on site.
[4:33:51]
And so, a lot of times this notification
[4:33:53]
is going outside of that. We don't chain
[4:33:55]
any pools, you know, or anything like
[4:33:57]
that. It's up to the pool establishment
[4:33:59]
to ensure that no one is using that pool
[4:34:01]
until they come back into
[4:34:02]
» Last year. How many pools did we close
[4:34:04]
now?
[4:34:05]
» I do not have that number for you, sir,
[4:34:06]
but I can get that for you.
[4:34:08]
» Do you know if it was 10, five, hundred
[4:34:11]
of them? Any idea?
[4:34:12]
» It's less than a hundred. No.
[4:34:13]
» Okay. I just I'm not sure. I mean, I I
[4:34:16]
understand the need to test it and make
[4:34:18]
sure it's safe for the public. I'm not
[4:34:21]
sure a $100 fine to the HOA is going to
[4:34:26]
make them jump up and go get their thing
[4:34:28]
filed, but I'd be willing to bet a close
[4:34:30]
down would do that. Not that I'm
[4:34:31]
advocating for hurry up, close them
[4:34:32]
down.
[4:34:33]
» We do close down now. Um it just takes,
[4:34:35]
we go back numerous times, like I said,
[4:34:37]
it's over 90 days that 30% that were
[4:34:40]
delinquent in their permits. Usually a
[4:34:43]
lot of people think that the pool is not
[4:34:45]
being used in the winter months, so they
[4:34:46]
don't need to keep up with it even
[4:34:47]
though their permit may expire in the
[4:34:49]
winter months.
[4:34:50]
» This is going to be an incredibly
[4:34:51]
ignorant question.
[4:34:53]
Um the
[4:34:57]
the brain eating amieba as it's
[4:34:59]
described.
[4:35:00]
» Yes, sir.
[4:35:01]
» How often does that come from a public
[4:35:05]
pool or or home pool? I
[4:35:07]
» So that is normally I can even
[4:35:09]
» Haven't we had like some splash pads
[4:35:11]
where we think some splash pads that can
[4:35:13]
happen with. So what happens is that
[4:35:15]
type of
[4:35:16]
» Parasite it can form a bofilm and so it
[4:35:19]
kind of protects itself and in splash
[4:35:21]
pads they don't have continuously
[4:35:23]
running water so it can allow them to do
[4:35:25]
that. A pool is supposed to be operating
[4:35:28]
and have a higher amount of chlorine in
[4:35:30]
it on a regular basis. Typically you
[4:35:32]
will see in splash pads or in natural
[4:35:34]
bodies of water that concern. Not that
[4:35:37]
it can't happen at a pool if they don't
[4:35:39]
keep their chemicals straight and it
[4:35:40]
maintained properly, but we have not
[4:35:42]
seen that here in Tarant County since
[4:35:44]
I've been here, but we have seen it at a
[4:35:46]
splash pad in the last few years.
[4:35:49]
» In Taran County?
[4:35:50]
» Yes, sir.
[4:35:50]
» Yeah. Is there anything we can do
[4:35:53]
different to stop that from happening
[4:35:55]
than what we're doing now?
[4:35:57]
» No. Um, the last one was a maintenance
[4:36:00]
issue. They didn't maintain properly
[4:36:02]
what they were doing. So I can't tell
[4:36:04]
you if that bofilm would have been
[4:36:06]
allowed to occur if that maintenance was
[4:36:09]
proper.
[4:36:10]
» How does a pool prohibit this from
[4:36:13]
developing?
[4:36:13]
» So
[4:36:14]
» But is it simply just running water or
[4:36:16]
is it chlorine?
[4:36:17]
» It's sanitizer that is approved
[4:36:18]
sanitizers in the pools. Splash pads
[4:36:20]
actually have two methods in which they
[4:36:23]
need to have sanitizers. Um, it's either
[4:36:25]
two sanitizers or one sanitizer and you
[4:36:27]
can use UV light, some other type of way
[4:36:30]
in order to try to filter that out
[4:36:31]
because the water's not constantly
[4:36:33]
moving through.
[4:36:35]
They're usually push button and
[4:36:36]
activated that way when somebody is
[4:36:38]
wanting to utilize it.
[4:36:39]
» I bet a $250,000 fine for any pool that
[4:36:43]
uh has a child catch that. I bet I bet
[4:36:45]
that would deter them more than $100.
[4:36:49]
Okay.
[4:36:50]
I would just encourage you to look at
[4:36:52]
that. I know it's not a big big
[4:36:55]
it's not a
[4:36:57]
epidemic here, but is there something we
[4:37:00]
can do to protect the kids? That one for
[4:37:02]
whatever reason probably because I have
[4:37:03]
kids just makes me really nervous.
[4:37:04]
» Yeah. Yes, sir. I agree.
[4:37:06]
» Yeah. Okay. What else? Anything else?
[4:37:09]
» That is it.
[4:37:13]
» Anything, Dr. Bird?
[4:37:16]
I I I just want to point out that I
[4:37:18]
learned a little bit this morning.
[4:37:19]
Thanks for asking the good questions and
[4:37:21]
uh but that is all we have sir.
[4:37:24]
» Okay.
[4:37:24]
» All right. Do we have a motion on this?
[4:37:26]
» Move approval.
[4:37:28]
» Second.
[4:37:28]
» All right. We have a motion, a second to
[4:37:30]
approve the changes to the Tarant County
[4:37:32]
public health fee schedule. Any further
[4:37:34]
discussion?
[4:37:36]
All right. Seeing none, raise your hand
[4:37:38]
if you're in favor.
[4:37:41]
All right. Passes five to zero.
[4:37:44]
brings us to
[4:37:47]
purchasing
[4:37:49]
item P1.
[4:37:51]
Not even looked at this amount of
[4:37:53]
numbers
[4:37:56]
this morning.
[4:37:59]
All right. P35 has been
[4:38:03]
removed from consent, so it'll be added
[4:38:05]
at the end.
[4:38:07]
Uh I would make a motion to approve
[4:38:11]
P1 through 13. Second.
[4:38:15]
All right, we have a motion, a second to
[4:38:17]
approve P1 through 13. Any discussion,
[4:38:22]
comments, or questions?
[4:38:27]
Uh, all right. Seeing none, all in favor
[4:38:30]
of approval of purchasing items P1
[4:38:32]
through 13, raise your hand.
[4:38:35]
All right, passes five to zero.
[4:38:41]
Brings us to then the next number which
[4:38:43]
is at 14
[4:38:45]
P14 permission take bids and RFPs.
[4:38:49]
Move approval. Second. All right. We
[4:38:51]
have a motion to second to approve that
[4:38:53]
item. Any discussion there.
[4:38:57]
All right. Seeing none. All in favor of
[4:39:00]
uh granting permission to take bids on
[4:39:02]
RFP RFPs, please raise your hand.
[4:39:06]
All right. Passes five to zero. Next we
[4:39:09]
do P35
[4:39:11]
which was removed from consent.
[4:39:17]
P35 is consideration of ID application
[4:39:20]
and subscriber agreement annual contract
[4:39:22]
for skip tracing software and
[4:39:24]
maintenance and elections
[4:39:25]
administration.
[4:39:27]
» Move for approval.
[4:39:28]
» Second. All right. We have a motion and
[4:39:30]
second to approve that item. Any
[4:39:32]
discussion?
[4:39:35]
Is there a speaker? No. Anyone
[4:39:40]
have any questions on this?
[4:39:42]
All right. Uh, all in favor of approval
[4:39:45]
of P35, please raise your hand.
[4:39:50]
All opposed. All right. So, it passes 4
[4:39:52]
to one.
[4:39:55]
Um, T2A was removed from consent, but
[4:39:58]
now it has been removed in its entirety.
[4:40:01]
So, we will not address T2A,
[4:40:03]
which brings us to T3G.
[4:40:08]
from consent.
[4:40:10]
» All right. Motion to approve. I'll
[4:40:12]
second it. Uh, any discussion on this
[4:40:15]
item?
[4:40:19]
» I don't know.
[4:40:21]
Any discussion on T3G?
[4:40:24]
All right. Seeing none, all in favor,
[4:40:26]
please raise your hand.
[4:40:28]
All right. Passes five to zero. T3H was
[4:40:32]
also removed from consent.
[4:40:34]
» Move for approval.
[4:40:35]
» Second. We have a motion to second to
[4:40:36]
approve that item. Any discussion there?
[4:40:40]
All right, seeing none, all in favor,
[4:40:42]
raise your hand.
[4:40:44]
» All opposed, raise your hand.
[4:40:47]
All right, passes four to one.
[4:40:49]
» I'm actually opposed to G as well. Oops.
[4:40:54]
» Can you go back and revote or change
[4:40:56]
your vote? How do you do that?
[4:40:58]
» Um,
[4:41:00]
I would suggest
[4:41:01]
» Can you correct the record or do we have
[4:41:03]
to undo it? We we can simply make a
[4:41:06]
amendment to the minutes when they are
[4:41:08]
adopted at the next meeting to reflect
[4:41:09]
that that was your intent, commissioner.
[4:41:11]
» All right.
[4:41:11]
» All right. Um next we have appointments
[4:41:14]
to various boards and commissions. Do we
[4:41:16]
have any board appointments? Commission
[4:41:18]
appointments.
[4:41:19]
» I have two. Okay.
[4:41:21]
» Um so for the
[4:41:25]
I don't know what it's called, Megan. Is
[4:41:27]
it called the Green Brick Freshwater
[4:41:29]
Supply District?
[4:41:33]
Okay. I thought that was today. Never
[4:41:35]
mind.
[4:41:35]
» I have none. All right. Anybody else?
[4:41:37]
» But I'll take his
[4:41:40]
um uh I need to make uh Katherine Roder
[4:41:43]
who's done some great work for precinct
[4:41:44]
3 for a very long time. She submitted
[4:41:46]
her resignation um for the Keller Tur
[4:41:49]
board number two um effective yesterday.
[4:41:52]
And I'd like to appoint Mike Garcia to
[4:41:54]
fill her unexpired term.
[4:41:55]
» Second.
[4:41:56]
» All right. A motion and a second to
[4:41:58]
appoint Mike Garcia to that TUR board.
[4:42:01]
Any discussion? All right, seeing none,
[4:42:04]
all in favor raise your hand.
[4:42:07]
Passes unanimously. Any other board or
[4:42:09]
commission appointments? All right, next
[4:42:12]
up, briefing item, operational impact of
[4:42:14]
Tarant County redistricting.
[4:42:21]
[Music]
[4:42:27]
Good afternoon, court members. Just a
[4:42:29]
couple of updates uh since our last
[4:42:31]
briefing on this. Uh we're really down
[4:42:34]
to kind of two items. Uh budget and
[4:42:37]
elections. So during our uh budget
[4:42:41]
workshop, we had some discussion with
[4:42:43]
regards to uh road and bridge uh assets,
[4:42:46]
personnel, and things like that. We did
[4:42:48]
not make any final determinations at
[4:42:50]
those meetings. Uh but certainly those
[4:42:52]
items are still in conversation uh with
[4:42:54]
the budget office to make those final
[4:42:56]
recommendations uh as part of the the
[4:42:58]
final approval of the budget coming
[4:43:00]
soon. Uh as far as election goes, uh
[4:43:02]
certainly we had a couple of action
[4:43:04]
items today with regards to uh voting
[4:43:07]
precincts and and the such. And that's
[4:43:10]
that's really the update I have for this
[4:43:12]
meeting with regards to redistricting.
[4:43:15]
» All right. Any questions or comments on
[4:43:17]
this item before we bring up a speaker?
[4:43:20]
So on the voter registration system, has
[4:43:23]
the updated voter registration system
[4:43:26]
now been fully implemented, Clint?
[4:43:29]
» And have there been any errors or
[4:43:31]
issues?
[4:43:43]
» Good afternoon, Commissioner. the the
[4:43:46]
maps and the precincts themselves, the
[4:43:47]
updates are made, but because these
[4:43:48]
don't go into effect until January 1,
[4:43:50]
they haven't been moved into the voter
[4:43:53]
registration system to reflect. So,
[4:43:55]
anybody that were to go to our website
[4:43:59]
and and put in their information, it's
[4:44:01]
still going to um show that they would
[4:44:04]
be voting in the other commissioner's
[4:44:06]
precinct because those or their not the
[4:44:08]
other commissioners precinct, but the
[4:44:10]
voting precinct because those voting
[4:44:12]
precinct numbers haven't changed and
[4:44:14]
won't change until January 1. So, we're
[4:44:17]
those changes will be made effective.
[4:44:20]
What we are doing is creating a separate
[4:44:23]
database to then
[4:44:26]
transition it to the post January 1
[4:44:30]
precincts prior to that so we can do the
[4:44:32]
mass mailouts to ensure that when we
[4:44:35]
mail everybody their voter registration
[4:44:37]
card they get the information that will
[4:44:39]
be effective January 1 even though we
[4:44:42]
have to have those mailed out prior to
[4:44:43]
the end of December.
[4:44:46]
» So it's not effective now. the voting
[4:44:50]
precincts. No.
[4:44:53]
» Why not again?
[4:44:55]
» So, the the voting precincts by law
[4:44:58]
don't go into effect till January 1.
[4:45:00]
» Okay.
[4:45:04]
» All right. Any other questions or
[4:45:05]
comments?
[4:45:06]
» Just stay stay up there. Um,
[4:45:11]
so have the new voter precinct maps been
[4:45:14]
published to the public yet? the new
[4:45:17]
voter precincts. They haven't yet
[4:45:18]
because we just um approved those today.
[4:45:21]
» Okay. And what's the what's the ETA?
[4:45:24]
» We're working on them right now,
[4:45:25]
Commissioner.
[4:45:27]
» Okay. So, a week, a five day, what?
[4:45:32]
Two weeks, a month.
[4:45:33]
» It won't It should be by the end of the
[4:45:34]
week.
[4:45:35]
» Okay.
[4:45:36]
Um,
[4:45:39]
so have
[4:45:42]
so you have or have not sent official
[4:45:45]
notices out for voting changes?
[4:45:50]
» We have sent official notices as were
[4:45:53]
required by the statutes to get to this
[4:45:56]
point and then we will have to do post
[4:45:58]
the notice of the approval today.
[4:46:04]
» Okay.
[4:46:05]
And have voters received any direct
[4:46:09]
notification about potential changes to
[4:46:12]
their precinct polling place that won't
[4:46:13]
happen till January?
[4:46:19]
» I'm trying to understand you quite so
[4:46:21]
voters
[4:46:22]
» Have we communicated to the voters in
[4:46:25]
any way about
[4:46:27]
you've been moved into this precinct.
[4:46:29]
This is your new commissioner.
[4:46:32]
Um this is
[4:46:35]
No, we have not. We We didn't have
[4:46:37]
anything approved. What we're working
[4:46:39]
with um it right now is creating a site
[4:46:42]
where a voter will be able to go in and
[4:46:44]
put in their address and it will tell
[4:46:47]
them um the the new precinct that
[4:46:49]
they're in. Um but we're working with it
[4:46:51]
to get that finish out that development.
[4:46:53]
» Okay. So, that kind of goes to my next
[4:46:55]
question uh about the communication
[4:46:58]
plan. Um,
[4:47:03]
so we're just going to say you can go to
[4:47:06]
our website and check this out. I saw
[4:47:09]
the little video last time.
[4:47:12]
Um,
[4:47:14]
but is that going to be it? I mean, this
[4:47:16]
is a a big change.
[4:47:20]
» So, communications department is
[4:47:22]
certainly aware. Uh, as I stated last
[4:47:24]
time, the video just gives you a taste
[4:47:25]
of what we've been working on in order
[4:47:26]
to push out the information with regards
[4:47:28]
to this. However, until the site was up
[4:47:30]
and we had confirmation that the site
[4:47:32]
was up in Oregon correctly, we didn't
[4:47:33]
want to push anything out yet because we
[4:47:34]
will be directing people to the site if
[4:47:36]
they want to look up uh where their new
[4:47:38]
voting precinct is.
[4:47:39]
» So, it's just going to be our website.
[4:47:41]
It's just going to be our
[4:47:42]
» Our website, social media channels, all
[4:47:44]
of our our normal uh channels that we
[4:47:45]
have available to us to push out
[4:47:47]
information,
[4:47:47]
» Right? But have we thought about doing
[4:47:50]
paid communications or
[4:47:53]
» Additionally, Commissioner, when we do
[4:47:55]
the mass mail out, every registered
[4:47:56]
voter that we have in the voter
[4:47:58]
registration system will get a new voter
[4:48:00]
registration certificate and that will
[4:48:02]
reflect that new precinct number. So
[4:48:04]
they will
[4:48:05]
» Okay.
[4:48:09]
Have any of our cities or school
[4:48:11]
districts or community partners
[4:48:13]
responded to notifications sent through
[4:48:17]
the mayor's council or delegation
[4:48:19]
briefings?
[4:48:20]
» I have not heard any response, ma'am.
[4:48:22]
» Okay. So, we don't have any feedback or
[4:48:25]
concerns or
[4:48:26]
» No, ma'am. I haven't heard of any
[4:48:27]
feedback from uh the federal, state
[4:48:29]
delegations, uh cities or ISDs.
[4:48:34]
» Okay.
[4:48:36]
Were those uh FY26 budget
[4:48:38]
recommendations to each precinct uh
[4:48:41]
finalized before the August 19th budget
[4:48:43]
hearings?
[4:48:45]
» I'm sorry, which FY26 budget
[4:48:47]
recommendations?
[4:48:48]
» Bud uh let's see to each precinct.
[4:48:52]
I think it was from your last
[4:48:54]
presentation.
[4:48:57]
» So I referenced the finalized
[4:48:59]
recommendations to each commissioner
[4:49:00]
precinct related to the FY26 budget
[4:49:02]
submission. And uh what we again at the
[4:49:05]
budget retreat we did have some
[4:49:07]
conversation with regards to those uh
[4:49:09]
but we were based on the fact that we
[4:49:11]
did not have an entire court here we
[4:49:13]
decided to kind of table some of those
[4:49:14]
conversations work with the budget
[4:49:15]
officer with regards to that to bring
[4:49:17]
back final recommendations.
[4:49:19]
» Okay. Thank you sir
[4:49:21]
» Sers.
[4:49:23]
» All right. Anybody have anything else on
[4:49:25]
this item?
[4:49:27]
All right. We have one speaker. Dr.
[4:49:29]
Valencia Edner.
[4:49:34]
[Music]
[4:49:36]
What an embarrassing day this has been.
[4:49:40]
Such a good old boy backs slapping got
[4:49:42]
him nights. The lights went out in
[4:49:43]
Georgia process.
[4:49:45]
That's the prevailing mindset in this
[4:49:47]
court. But let me get to my point.
[4:49:50]
Critical thinking requires more than
[4:49:52]
chasing an agenda. It means asking what
[4:49:56]
are the ripple effects.
[4:49:59]
Doing your homework before pushing it
[4:50:01]
would have avoided this Keystone Cop
[4:50:04]
atmosphere we keep enduring.
[4:50:06]
Yet your collective piler choices prove
[4:50:09]
that you either cannot or will not see
[4:50:13]
them
[4:50:14]
by re redrawing precinct lines, slashing
[4:50:18]
polling places. You have forced citizens
[4:50:20]
already packed and cracked by you to
[4:50:24]
struggle for what should be their
[4:50:26]
birthright. Free, fair, and equitable
[4:50:29]
elections.
[4:50:31]
But your politics won't let you care.
[4:50:34]
This is not leadership. It's ambition
[4:50:36]
gone mad. An ambition so blindly that
[4:50:39]
you trample the very people you were
[4:50:41]
elected to serve. But your politics
[4:50:44]
won't let you care. And tell me, how do
[4:50:47]
you rest? How do you look in the mirror
[4:50:49]
and not see the darkness of what you've
[4:50:52]
become?
[4:50:53]
You can close a polling place, but you
[4:50:55]
cannot close people's will. You can
[4:50:57]
withdraw a line, but you cannot withdraw
[4:51:01]
redraw our determination. You may try to
[4:51:04]
dim democracy, but we the people are the
[4:51:07]
light. And the light always finds a way
[4:51:10]
to shine on, shine in, and shine
[4:51:14]
through. And no one is blinded by good
[4:51:18]
light cuz truth will march on.
[4:51:25]
All right. Next item is
[4:51:28]
Tarant County Sheriff's Office update
[4:51:30]
regarding incidents in the county jail.
[4:51:35]
we had reached out to the sheriff to
[4:51:37]
request uh either the off his office be
[4:51:40]
available for briefing today. Uh we
[4:51:42]
heard back that the sheriff's office was
[4:51:44]
unavailable to to brief today. Uh
[4:51:47]
yesterday I received four specific names
[4:51:50]
as far as information uh that had been
[4:51:53]
requested to be briefed on today. I have
[4:51:55]
the four press releases that were sent
[4:51:57]
out by the sheriff's office related to
[4:51:58]
those four names. If it pleases the
[4:52:00]
court, I'd be happy to read those into
[4:52:02]
the record or I'd also be happy to just
[4:52:04]
file them with the clerk as a matter of
[4:52:05]
record. you can read them into the
[4:52:07]
record and u we'll just schedule them
[4:52:09]
for a briefing at the September 3rd
[4:52:12]
meeting.
[4:52:13]
» Okay.
[4:52:14]
» All right. So, the first one was on a
[4:52:15]
gentleman named Charles Johnson,
[4:52:17]
February 8th, 2025. On Saturday,
[4:52:20]
February 2025, a 36-year-old inmate in
[4:52:23]
the Tarant County Jail passed away at
[4:52:24]
John Peter Smith Hospital following
[4:52:26]
complications from an attempted suicide.
[4:52:29]
The inmate was booked into the Tarant
[4:52:31]
County Jail on February 4th, 2025 on a
[4:52:33]
parole violation out of Palipinto County
[4:52:36]
of multiple sexual assault convictions
[4:52:38]
as well as failing to register as a
[4:52:40]
violent sex offender. During the booking
[4:52:42]
intake process, the inmate was
[4:52:44]
administered a screening form for
[4:52:46]
suicide and medical, mental,
[4:52:48]
developmental impairments as required by
[4:52:50]
the Texas Commission on Jail Standards
[4:52:51]
and the Sandra Bland Act. TCSO detention
[4:52:54]
officers identified behavioral concerns
[4:52:56]
and the inmate was referred to Tarant
[4:52:58]
County MHMR for further assessment. The
[4:53:01]
inmate was screened and cleared by MHMR
[4:53:03]
and assigned housing per minimum jail
[4:53:05]
standards for protocol. On February 6th,
[4:53:08]
2025, the inmate was once again screened
[4:53:10]
by a mental health provider. It was
[4:53:12]
noted that the inmate did not display
[4:53:14]
any suicidal ideiations and was cleared
[4:53:16]
to remain in general population housing.
[4:53:19]
Subsequently, on February 6th, 2025,
[4:53:22]
after being cleared by MHMR, the inmate
[4:53:24]
was found unresponsive in his cell by
[4:53:26]
his cellmate. Within seconds, detention
[4:53:28]
officers and JPS medical staff
[4:53:30]
immediately began administering
[4:53:32]
life-saving treatment. The inmate was
[4:53:34]
taken to JPS hospital where despite
[4:53:37]
their efforts, the inmate passed away a
[4:53:39]
couple of days later. The Tarant County
[4:53:41]
Medical Examiner will release the
[4:53:42]
inmate's name and cause of death. In
[4:53:45]
2024, TCSO detention officers intervened
[4:53:47]
and prevented 390 suicide attempts. So
[4:53:50]
far in 2025, TCSO detention officers
[4:53:53]
have intervened in 24 suicide attempts
[4:53:55]
in the Tarant County Jail. All in
[4:53:58]
custody deaths are reviewed and
[4:53:59]
investigated by Tarant County Sheriff's
[4:54:01]
Office Jail Staff, the TCSO Criminal
[4:54:03]
Investigations Division, an outside law
[4:54:05]
enforcement agency. In this case, the
[4:54:07]
Texas Rangers, JPS medical staff, the
[4:54:10]
Texas Commission on Jail Standards, the
[4:54:11]
Tarant County Medical Examiner's Office,
[4:54:13]
and the Texas Attorney General's Office.
[4:54:15]
All media request on this case should be
[4:54:17]
directed to the Texas Rangers as they
[4:54:18]
are the lead investigating agency.
[4:54:22]
» That was Mr. Charles Steven Johnson.
[4:54:25]
» Yes, ma'am. Charles Johnson.
[4:54:26]
» Okay. Do we have Do you know if the
[4:54:29]
autopsy um report is back? Do you do not
[4:54:33]
know that latest? Okay.
[4:54:34]
» All right. We'll just
[4:54:36]
» Have him come back.
[4:54:37]
» Yes, ma'am.
[4:54:38]
» Next.
[4:54:44]
» Next up is Kimberly Phillips.
[4:54:48]
February 20th, 2025.
[4:54:51]
On Tuesday, February 28th, 2025, a
[4:54:53]
56-year-old inmate passed away while
[4:54:55]
under medical care at John Peter Smith
[4:54:57]
Hospital. The inmate was arrested by
[4:54:59]
Grand Prairie PD on January 24th, 2025
[4:55:03]
for outstanding felony warrants for
[4:55:04]
injury to child, elderly, disabled,
[4:55:07]
bodily injury and obstruction
[4:55:09]
retaliation. They were transported to
[4:55:11]
the Tarant County Jail the following
[4:55:13]
day. The inmate was placed in medical
[4:55:15]
housing under medical observation where
[4:55:17]
there is access to 247 medical care. On
[4:55:20]
February 15, 2025, the inmate was
[4:55:22]
transported to JPS and passed away on
[4:55:24]
February 18th under the direct care of
[4:55:27]
medical staff. The Tarant County Medical
[4:55:29]
Examiner will release the inmate's name
[4:55:31]
and cause of death. All in custody
[4:55:33]
deaths are reviewed and investigated by
[4:55:35]
Tarant County Sheriff's Office, Jail
[4:55:36]
Staff, the TCSO Criminal Investigation
[4:55:38]
Division and Outside Law Enforcement
[4:55:40]
Agency, JPS Medical Staff, the Texas
[4:55:43]
Commission on Jail Standards, the Tarant
[4:55:44]
County Medical Examiner's Office, and
[4:55:46]
the Texas Attorney's General's Office.
[4:55:51]
The third individual is Liza Gadlin.
[4:55:56]
This release is dated April 21st, 2025.
[4:56:00]
On Saturday, April 19th, 2025, a
[4:56:02]
57year-old female inmate passed away at
[4:56:05]
John Peter Smith Hospital. As per jail
[4:56:07]
protocol, she was evaluated by MHMR and
[4:56:10]
medical staff when she was booked last
[4:56:12]
week. The inmate's history indicates a
[4:56:14]
longtime drug use and chronic health
[4:56:16]
conditions. She was receiving care from
[4:56:18]
John Peter Smith Hospital medical staff
[4:56:20]
during the time she was in custody. She
[4:56:23]
was arrested by the DFW airport police
[4:56:25]
department on April 15th, 2025 for theft
[4:56:28]
of property between $100 and $750.
[4:56:32]
The Tarant County Medical Examiner's
[4:56:33]
Office will determine her cause of death
[4:56:35]
and release her identity. All in custody
[4:56:38]
deaths are investigated and reviewed by
[4:56:39]
Tarant County Sheriff's Office Jail
[4:56:41]
Staff, the TCSO Criminal Investigations
[4:56:43]
Division, the Tarant County Medical
[4:56:44]
Examiner's Office, and Outside Law
[4:56:46]
Enforcement Agency, JPS Medical Staff,
[4:56:49]
the Texas Attorney General's Office, and
[4:56:50]
the Texas Commission on Jail Standards.
[4:56:55]
» We don't have her cause of death.
[4:56:57]
» No, ma'am, I don't.
[4:57:04]
But on all these, I'll if they've been
[4:57:06]
publicly released, I'll make sure that
[4:57:08]
we have the medical examiner's office
[4:57:10]
send that information to the court.
[4:57:12]
» Okay.
[4:57:12]
» Uh and inclusive of this last one. The
[4:57:15]
last individual is Richard Gowski.
[4:57:19]
This release is dated August 6th, 2025.
[4:57:22]
On Wednesday, August 6, 2025, jail
[4:57:25]
medical personnel from John Peter Smith
[4:57:27]
Hospital responded to medical emergency
[4:57:29]
inside the Tarant County Jail involving
[4:57:31]
a 61-year-old inmate. The inmate was
[4:57:33]
transported to JPS hospital where he
[4:57:35]
passed away. He was arrested by the
[4:57:37]
White Settlement Police Department for
[4:57:39]
criminal trespass. He arrived at the
[4:57:40]
Tarant County Jail on July 29th, 2025.
[4:57:44]
The Tarant County Medical Examiner's
[4:57:45]
Office will determine his cause of death
[4:57:47]
and release his identity. All in custody
[4:57:49]
deaths are investigated and reviewed by
[4:57:51]
the Tarant County Sheriff's Office, Jail
[4:57:53]
Staff, the TCSO Criminal Investigations
[4:57:55]
Division, the Tarant County Medical
[4:57:57]
Examiner's Office, and Outside Law
[4:57:59]
Enforcement Agency, JPS Medical Staff,
[4:58:01]
the Texas Attorney General's Office, and
[4:58:03]
the Texas Commission on Jail Standards.
[4:58:06]
» Thank you.
[4:58:07]
» Yes, ma'am.
[4:58:08]
» As scheduled, the sheriff to be here
[4:58:11]
next time to give an update on all these
[4:58:14]
cases.
[4:58:15]
» I'll make the request, ma'am. Anybody
[4:58:19]
else have anything before we bring up
[4:58:20]
our speakers?
[4:58:22]
Uh, Nan Terry
[4:58:28]
and Joe Palmer.
[4:58:36]
Good afternoon.
[4:58:39]
Chandler mentioned it, but I'm going to
[4:58:41]
say my piece, too. Since the
[4:58:43]
commissioner's court last met, uh, Mr.
[4:58:46]
Richard Gowski uh died in the Tarant
[4:58:49]
County Jail. The Texas Attorney
[4:58:50]
General's death in custody reports his
[4:58:53]
death is August 6, 2025 at 1047.
[4:58:57]
He had been in jail about a week. He was
[4:58:59]
charged with a class B misdemeanor
[4:59:01]
offense with a a criminal trespassing
[4:59:04]
and had a bond of $500. He was 61.
[4:59:08]
As you know, the National Institute of
[4:59:09]
Corrections critical site visit report
[4:59:11]
made recommendations to the Tarant
[4:59:13]
County Jail to improve the jail. One
[4:59:16]
recommendation is on page 11 of the
[4:59:18]
mortality review process. What currently
[4:59:21]
happens is MHMR and JPS have a critical
[4:59:26]
incident review committee and they meet
[4:59:28]
weekly to discuss this. The Texas
[4:59:30]
Commission on Jail Standards requires
[4:59:33]
the custody staff to review what
[4:59:35]
happened with the death in custody,
[4:59:38]
but near the two should meet. And the
[4:59:41]
recommendation from the NIC is that the
[4:59:43]
custodial death the custodial staff be
[4:59:46]
allowed to attend the MHMR JPS uh their
[4:59:51]
critical incident review meeting and so
[4:59:53]
that information can be shared against
[4:59:55]
both all three groups. and you guys are
[5:00:00]
the leaders of Taran County and
[5:00:03]
you fund or have some role and
[5:00:06]
responsibilities and perhaps you could
[5:00:09]
encourage JPS MHMR to implement that
[5:00:12]
mortality review process on page 11 of
[5:00:15]
the NIC report. I can't imagine it would
[5:00:17]
cost any have any significant budget
[5:00:20]
impact. Uh the other point uh Kimberly
[5:00:23]
Phillips her death in custody report was
[5:00:27]
uh malnutrition and dehydration
[5:00:30]
uh starvation and dehydration. And
[5:00:34]
another of the recommendations from the
[5:00:37]
NIC report was for a huddle to be done
[5:00:39]
weekly from JPS MHMR to discuss
[5:00:45]
incidents of concern for individuals
[5:00:48]
including reduced food intake. And since
[5:00:51]
Miss Phelps passed away due to reduced
[5:00:54]
starvation and dehydration, perhaps you
[5:00:57]
could encourage people to implement that
[5:00:59]
recommendation also. Um, I can't imagine
[5:01:03]
that would cost much. I think they do a
[5:01:05]
weekly now. Huddle. Uh, not daily. Thank
[5:01:09]
you.
[5:01:10]
» Thank you. Uh, I did not see Mr. Palmer.
[5:01:12]
Mr. Palmer's not present, is he?
[5:01:16]
Uh, now we come to public comments.
[5:01:22]
Okay, I don't have it. So, we have
[5:01:24]
public comments now.
[5:01:27]
First person to speak on public comments
[5:01:29]
is Darlene Doss.
[5:01:33]
Miss Doss present.
[5:01:36]
Oh, we have Rose Abraham.
[5:01:45]
» Are you Miss Abraham or Miss Doss?
[5:01:49]
What's your name?
[5:01:50]
» Rose Abraham.
[5:01:51]
» Gotcha. Okay. No. Darling Doss. Okay. Go
[5:01:53]
ahead, Miss Abraham.
[5:01:59]
» Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. My name
[5:02:00]
is Rose Abraham. I'm 73 years old and I
[5:02:04]
am here to
[5:02:06]
uh share with you guys something that is
[5:02:09]
really important for me that you know
[5:02:12]
and that it's going on and it involve um
[5:02:15]
a tow truck company right here in
[5:02:18]
forward located on 6754 Randle New Hope
[5:02:22]
Road.
[5:02:24]
Uh these people are seriously conducting
[5:02:28]
uh illegal activity and I was a victim
[5:02:30]
of them. I had a Nissan truck which it
[5:02:34]
was parked properly. They stole it. I
[5:02:37]
sued them. I won the case. They didn't
[5:02:40]
release my my truck claiming that they
[5:02:42]
were going to appeal it. They never did.
[5:02:44]
I sue them again
[5:02:47]
and they went on a rampage. Every time I
[5:02:50]
had to go to court, I was mysteriously
[5:02:54]
um hijacked and all my court paper were
[5:02:57]
taken. So I had no evidence and I had to
[5:03:01]
start all over again. That happened
[5:03:03]
three times and also one of the time
[5:03:07]
mysteriously
[5:03:09]
uh and I say mysteriously because I
[5:03:11]
cannot say specific that they did it but
[5:03:14]
the connection is very strong. I was
[5:03:17]
hijacked. I would spray with something.
[5:03:20]
All of the sudden, I found myself dumped
[5:03:24]
on the freeway.
[5:03:26]
Uh, luckily a a good Samaritan was
[5:03:29]
passing by and they noticed that there
[5:03:32]
was a human being. It was not a a a toy
[5:03:35]
or a a doll. An ambulance came. They
[5:03:39]
picked me up. They took me to the
[5:03:40]
emergency room. And little by little, I
[5:03:44]
started remember things. Bottom line,
[5:03:48]
they have seriously been terrorizing me.
[5:03:52]
But I am not going to stop. I'm going to
[5:03:54]
seek justice because I found out that my
[5:03:58]
truck
[5:04:00]
was sold to my next door neighbor, an
[5:04:03]
illegal drug dealer that have also been
[5:04:06]
terrorizing me.
[5:04:09]
I cannot be quiet. I need to speak up
[5:04:12]
and you all need to know what's going
[5:04:14]
on. I need prayer and I need help and
[5:04:17]
guidance. Anything that you can do to
[5:04:20]
guide me and help me, it will be
[5:04:21]
awesome. I can't find an attorney. I
[5:04:24]
don't have money. I'm suing them again
[5:04:27]
and we supposed to go to court. And I'm
[5:04:29]
appealing the decision of the judge
[5:04:31]
because they have uh an attorney that
[5:04:35]
have never show up to any other meeting
[5:04:38]
and they getting away with it.
[5:04:41]
They don't they don't I'm prosay but
[5:04:44]
they don't communicate with me and every
[5:04:46]
time we have a a a a hearing they don't
[5:04:49]
show up and it's okay. So I need an
[5:04:53]
attorney and I need prayer.
[5:04:56]
» That's all I can say. Thank you so much.
[5:04:58]
» Thank you. Next we have Bob Willoughby.
[5:05:07]
Let me start off with first here that uh
[5:05:09]
the school board the public comment
[5:05:11]
comes first. Canidel white settlement
[5:05:14]
forest hill city council comment comes
[5:05:16]
first. We're on the bottom here. It
[5:05:18]
doesn't take a minute to move the people
[5:05:19]
to the top. Republicans move people to
[5:05:22]
the top. Remember Reagan? We the people
[5:05:25]
first. Okay. Okay. Got that back.
[5:05:28]
Secondly, I really don't have much
[5:05:30]
respect for any across the board because
[5:05:32]
you don't answer questions. City council
[5:05:34]
don't, school board don't, and you don't
[5:05:36]
until you start answering legitimate
[5:05:38]
questions. I don't care about
[5:05:39]
redistricing. I don't care about those
[5:05:40]
machines or the voting locations.
[5:05:42]
They're irrelevant until you start
[5:05:44]
answering questions and you don't answer
[5:05:46]
questions. None of you. Not one of you.
[5:05:49]
Okay. Now, I got I our election in
[5:05:52]
District 5 was rigged. Democrats rigged
[5:05:55]
the election in Dem five 100%. Nothing
[5:05:58]
short of Jesus Christ walking that door
[5:06:00]
saying it's not rigged. It was rigged.
[5:06:02]
Do you care? Not one of you reached out
[5:06:04]
to ask about it. I went to court. It was
[5:06:06]
dismissed on 91A, which said, "Okay, I'm
[5:06:09]
going to file a however you do it, I'm
[5:06:12]
going to try to uh appeal it to go up to
[5:06:14]
a different court because the judge said
[5:06:16]
there's nothing there." Well, I'll tell
[5:06:18]
you what. When the votes go up four
[5:06:20]
elections in a row and it drop by 50%,
[5:06:24]
something's wrong. A doctor takes your
[5:06:27]
temperature, it drops by 50%.
[5:06:29]
Something's wrong. He can't tell you
[5:06:31]
what, but he say something's wrong. My
[5:06:33]
votes dropped by over 90%. 67 votes they
[5:06:37]
gave me. That's the lowest out of five
[5:06:39]
elections I ever got. I spent $20,000.
[5:06:42]
More money I ever spent. 67 boats was a
[5:06:45]
joke. This thing's rigged. And don't
[5:06:47]
tell me you care. You speak up about it.
[5:06:50]
You don't care. Or you speak up about
[5:06:52]
it. Our elections are the fabric of this
[5:06:54]
city. Our system. And if you don't care
[5:06:57]
about being rigged, the redistritis,
[5:07:00]
the locations don't mean crap. You got
[5:07:03]
to fix the riggedness. It is rigged by
[5:07:05]
Democrats. Cat in the voting deal should
[5:07:08]
not be in there. She's got mental
[5:07:09]
problems. She said it publicly. She said
[5:07:11]
she's a radical left Democrat and she's
[5:07:14]
in charge of the voting. Give me a
[5:07:16]
break. God. Anyway, you people start
[5:07:18]
answering questions, that's one. And I
[5:07:20]
mean the school board, council, city
[5:07:23]
council, across the board, when y'all
[5:07:25]
start answering. This is a partnership I
[5:07:27]
would never want to be in in the private
[5:07:29]
market with any of y'all. Never would I
[5:07:31]
enter into a partnership. But I am in a
[5:07:32]
partnership whether I like it or not.
[5:07:34]
And I don't like it. But I've got to
[5:07:36]
start answering legitimate questions.
[5:07:38]
One is Phil Sword. He's got documents on
[5:07:41]
his desk right now showing corruption
[5:07:43]
100%. He says, "I'm not going to act on
[5:07:45]
it. I'm not going to do anything. I'm
[5:07:47]
not going to answer. What do y'all do?
[5:07:49]
Same thing. You don't act on it. So,
[5:07:51]
don't talk like you're really doing
[5:07:52]
something for the people. Don't act like
[5:07:54]
you're something. District two, you're
[5:07:56]
not you don't answer either. You're no
[5:07:58]
better than the rest.
[5:08:00]
» So, as far as my concern about all of
[5:08:01]
you, you're not worth a hill of beans
[5:08:04]
until you start answering people and
[5:08:06]
respecting the public and moving to
[5:08:08]
number one. Thank you.
[5:08:09]
» Uh, next is Paul David Williams.
[5:08:14]
Mr. Williams here.
[5:08:18]
Next is Amy Super.
[5:08:24]
Miss Super, are you going?
[5:08:37]
Most of my comments are going to be
[5:08:39]
directed to my new commissioner. Um, I I
[5:08:43]
I get it. you got a bunch of new
[5:08:45]
constituents that you know, you know, we
[5:08:48]
didn't even have the option to vote for
[5:08:49]
you because you wouldn't have been on
[5:08:50]
our ballot the last time you were
[5:08:52]
running. And you know, you're going to
[5:08:54]
have to work hard uh to try to maintain
[5:08:56]
your seat. Um, however, you do still
[5:09:00]
represent us and when I go on to your
[5:09:03]
social media site and I am being
[5:09:05]
directed on videos how and what to say
[5:09:09]
when I call your office based on your
[5:09:13]
opinion on an issue.
[5:09:16]
I'm not comfortable with that. I think
[5:09:18]
that's that's not representation. Now,
[5:09:21]
to be fair, you've done a really good
[5:09:24]
job of showing us who you are and who
[5:09:26]
you believe you are best capable of
[5:09:27]
representing and it's not me and it's
[5:09:29]
not a whole lot of people who are now
[5:09:32]
part of precinct 2. Um, that doesn't
[5:09:35]
change the fact again that you're still
[5:09:36]
a representative. I specifically
[5:09:39]
suggested the last time I was here that
[5:09:41]
you consider maybe toning down some of
[5:09:44]
the hostile ways in which you addressed
[5:09:46]
Tarant County employees. It's
[5:09:48]
embarrassing. Those are the sorts of
[5:09:49]
things you do in private. Um, I'm not
[5:09:53]
asking you to give them free reign and
[5:09:55]
not hold them accountable when you think
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that they're not doing something they
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should be doing or have done something
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incorrectly. Just not in front of this
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entire group of people. Had I known
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you'd come after our elections
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administrator the way you did today, I
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would never have brought up some of the
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subject matters that I did. I have a
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great working relation working
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relationship with him as a voter. very
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approachable
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uh very problem-solving oriented
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that I was ashamed and I apologize to
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him for having done so. I should have
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known that he wouldn't listen to my
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suggestion. Um
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I would like to also just quickly
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address this thing with Tarant County um
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college campus adding them. So they
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explained to you that they don't have a
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room where they can secure it, which is
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now going to be part of the law. And he
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also explained that that means that if
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they can't secure it, that site is going
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to have to break down, tear up, and set
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up every day, 12 days in a row, 14-hour
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days, these folks are working. They're
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getting paid less than people who are
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working at Taco Bell. You and I are very
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close to the same age. It is physically
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demanding to do that. Good luck at
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finding a crew who is willing to do
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that. EV sites do not have to set up
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their own pull sites. Those are done for
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them. They're take they're set up and
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taken down by the staff at Tarant County
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elections unlike election day sites
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where we set up and tear down all of our
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equipment. You're asking people to do
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that every day for 12 days in a row. So
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before you proceed with that, I would I
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would ask for consideration for that for
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the poor people who are going to be
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stled with doing that work. Thank you.
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» Thank you. Next is Carla Palaris.
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She present.
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Next is Jimmy Blackwell.
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[Music]
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Judge O'Hare,
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it's a shame that the sheriff's office
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is never available to face the people.
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George O'Hara, I know you uh are
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familiar with Joe Lewis, heavyweight
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boxing champion.
[5:12:14]
He coined this phrase,
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you can run,
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but you cannot hide.
[5:12:23]
He made that comment when he was getting
[5:12:25]
ready to to challenge Billy Khan.
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Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. coined this
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quote,
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"No lie can live forever."
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So, Judge O'Hara, what are you mega
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people running from?
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You all are running from the truth and
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attempting to hide behind lie after lie
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after lie.
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How can the people of this county have
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any confidence
[5:13:02]
in the decision brought before the
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people by this court when it's apparent
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that you, Judge O'Hara, makes the first
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and final decision
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based on your ideology.
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You refuse to include other
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commissioners in your dis, excuse me, in
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your discussions prior to your decision.
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Now, how can we be confident
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that the other commissioners will vote
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with you other than you have already
[5:13:38]
threatened them or whatever the case may
[5:13:40]
be if they go against you?
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I want to personally thank uh
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Commissioner Simmons and Commissioner
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Rodri Miles
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for their stance against some of the
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stuff that you bring to this court and
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before the people.
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You know, it's not based on your
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discussion with these individuals
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because you refuse to even include them
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in your discussions.
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How can that be sound leadership
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when you exclude
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two of your major opposition voices?
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That's what democracy is all about.
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Listening to other people, discussing
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issues with other people, and then
[5:14:33]
making a decision based on that
[5:14:35]
information that you get from those
[5:14:37]
people. You just don't arbitrarily make
[5:14:40]
a decision on your own and then shove it
[5:14:43]
down the throat of the people. And
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that's what's going on with this
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commission. That's what's going on with
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you, Judge O'Hara. This has to stop. I
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smell a rat.
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» Thank you, sir.
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» Miss you three blind.
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» Thank you, sir. Next, we have Nan Terry.
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Is Nan Terry present? She leave. And
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then Joe Palmer.
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I do not see Mr. Palmer.
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» Okay. Well, I don't have your form.
[5:15:15]
» Well, you skipped earlier from the uh
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section that was on uh
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agenda announcements. Why is it on the
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list of of agenda items that you can
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participate in? If
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» He on whatever he's describing,
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» We do have a form, sir, for
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» Go ahead. Thank you very kindly.
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Give me just a moment to queue it up.
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» What's your name?
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» Stanley Johnson for precinct 1165.
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So I direct your attention to the uh
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uh rules of decorum that the court has
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established.
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Uh I would request that you all uh
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periodically
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perhaps before each meeting refresh
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yourself on them just so that you're uh
[5:16:02]
confident that they say what you think
[5:16:03]
they say and that you're you know
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they're right in your head and in your
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heart. One of the things that it states
[5:16:08]
in them is that you uh
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uh that your intent is to maximize
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uh citizen participation
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and uh I would suggest that perhaps
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reducing the number of uh polling places
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would be the opposite of maximizing
[5:16:28]
participation. It would be reducing it.
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Um
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the uh I don't have a lot more today
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other than to say um
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the
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the the court seems somewhat fractured.
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um if not actually physically
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uh perhaps
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um uh symbolically
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uh in particular the two of you in the
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center and to your right I guess uh seem
[5:17:05]
to be very much at odds and again if not
[5:17:08]
physically if y'all could possibly
[5:17:10]
symbolically
[5:17:12]
shake hands uh tone down the rhetoric a
[5:17:16]
little bit in the sense that um maybe
[5:17:19]
have dinner on occasion. Uh humanize one
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another. Uh I think that would serve the
[5:17:26]
entire court better. Um and I think
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that's all I have to say.
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» Okay. Thank you, sir.
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» All right. Do we have any announcements
[5:17:32]
or comments from the court members?
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Uh, seeing none, the court will now
[5:17:38]
recess the open session and proceed to
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close session to discuss items exempt
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under sections 551071,
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072,
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074, 076, 087, and 0725 of the Texas
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Government Code. Executive session will
[5:17:54]
begin promptly at 3:30 p.m. We are now
[5:17:57]
in recess.
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We are back. We are back from executive
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session. There are two items. One I
[6:02:16]
think we will take action on. One we may
[6:02:18]
or may not. The first item is H1. Do we
[6:02:22]
have a motion there?
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» Motion to approve.
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» All right, we have a motion to approve
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H1. I'll second. Any discussion on that?
[6:02:31]
All right, seeing none, all in favor,
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raise your hand.
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All opposed, raise your hand. That's the
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lawyer one. Opposed, raise your hand.
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All right, passes four to one. Then the
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next item that was tabled until after
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closed was item I believe it would be 10
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I5
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and we did receive a legal briefing
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legal advice on that issue. Does anyone
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wish to make a motion or do we deal with
[6:03:00]
this in a couple of weeks?
[6:03:05]
All right. So seeing nothing we will
[6:03:07]
take no action on this item today. We
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will um likely take this up on
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» September 3rd.
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» September 3rd. And that is all the items
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we have to address. So we are now
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» May make one announcement. Judge just my
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neglected to say this at the beginning.
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Next commissioner's court meeting we are
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scheduled to be back in our normal
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courtroom on September 3rd. So AV
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installation is going very well. We
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don't anticipate any issue why we would
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not be in that uh courtroom September
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3rd.
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» Okay. Thank you sir. We are now
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officially adjourned.