Drakes Island Road Bridge Project Meeting

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[1:06] On the other side, I don't know what to say.
[1:12] I don't know what to say.
[1:16] I know the state, office, office, the rest of the office, but I don't
[1:26] know.
[1:26] So that's everything that you're going to do.
[1:29] It's all right.
[1:30] Everybody ready?
[1:32] All right.
[1:34] So my hair on the horse.
[1:36] And here to help.
[1:37] So I think it's reading.
[1:38] Someone else was like a therapy round and large.
[1:40] So I think so.
[1:41] Here for nothing.
[1:45] I'm looking forward to it.
[1:47] I'm looking forward to it.
[1:48] I'm looking forward to it.
[1:49] I'm looking forward to it.
[1:49] It's really interesting.
[1:50] Okay.
[1:51] So who did the housekeeping?
[1:53] We have two guys here.
[1:55] We also have folks at home, so we're going to go through the presentation, the Anne Cales,
[1:59] with the study manager, to get the details on the fridge, the look like, et cetera, et cetera,
[2:05] or how the media structure will work, and so we're going to ask you to hold your questions
[2:10] to the end, because there's a lot of technical info that will hopefully answer at least some
[2:14] of your questions.
[2:15] People on Facebook who are watching this will be answering questions and sending them
[2:20] Rebecca, who's been really into us.
[2:24] So I'll call, she'll tell me when there's questions
[2:26] and I'll call on you to speak at the end.
[2:28] These everybody tell us your name and where you live,
[2:31] when you stand up, or when you answer that at the speak.
[2:36] And finally, why do we have it in a hybrid meeting?
[2:39] I think you're probably going to answer to this.
[2:41] Some of you would prefer to get out of the house
[2:43] and come here and a lot more people
[2:45] actually would rather to have a relationship
[2:49] and watch the meeting. So this way we get as many people as possible. They shouldn't have been on it.
[2:54] We already were in the meeting and we'll be following up this meeting with a meeting report that will be available on the calendar.
[3:02] So any questions before we?
[3:08] So, I'd like to sort of remind you.
[3:11] The project goal, this has been what we wanted to do under the beginning, is three things.
[3:15] with a lot of safe, bike quality, great.
[3:19] Observe it at hand to solve, aren't you?
[3:21] How about that?
[3:22] And also, being paying the strong communities
[3:24] effort through that.
[3:26] Tonight, you'll be getting an update,
[3:29] Dr. Carter says, as I said,
[3:31] where what has happened in the last couple of years
[3:33] and what you're going to be looking forward to
[3:35] in the next year.
[4:06] One minute, together, on this side.
[4:13] It's basically a long narrow through just outside the rover, so there won't be any
[4:19] on a fence that's for that.
[4:24] It's a long narrow through a show.
[4:27] Oh, okay.
[4:29] I'm kind of heard to hear.
[4:31] You heard to hear also.
[4:32] It's a little bit.
[4:34] All right.
[4:39] Well, this is the study area here, so I'm in by a long narrow strip. You see where it starts. Usually where it stops and that's where all the work is going to be taken place and then I think I'll talk to
[4:53] you.
[4:54] So in terms of public outreach, this is the third and final meeting.
[4:59] All the design elements are pretty much formed at this point, so we're here tonight, we're going to let you know what's going on and ask you your questions and see if there's anything that you'd have positive for God.
[5:11] There will be the project page on the, how do you have gone to the project page online on the website?
[5:19] Okay, not that many, so there's a lot of information there and they'll be more, so you've gone on it.
[5:26] So the last meeting we had, which was I think about two years ago, we came out of a three major things.
[5:32] And one is, continues access to the island is essential.
[5:35] You know, you don't want to shut anything down.
[5:37] We kind of soon got going in, but you know, now that is the way we'll be.
[5:42] Number two, we spend a lot of time in that meeting talking about fighting pedestrian facilities.
[5:47] Whether or not they, you know, certainly it's unsafe for bikes and pedestrian now.
[5:52] So that was a concern.
[5:54] But speeding was also a big concern.
[5:56] And when you have a bike and kind of lanes, you're going to be providing the rich.
[6:00] And that potentially increased speeding.
[6:02] So it was a long and good discussion about how we ended up actually doing a raise of hands,
[6:09] and it was overwhelmingly to add by the command of the district facility. So that's what you're
[6:13] going to see today.
[6:17] And with that, I'm going to turn it over to you. Yeah. Perfect.
[6:22] Darrell?
[6:28] Okay. So we'll start by going to where the designs at right now. This is reflective
[6:35] of what was presented in the last month of the meeting, same type of structure,
[6:41] as Carol just described the proposed railway improvements.
[6:46] The key elements I like to discuss on this figure are the additional five foot width on the left side of the bridge,
[6:54] which is the right side of the roadway.
[6:57] This was a change since the last public meeting.
[7:00] The intent here is for this bridge is going to be in service for a long time.
[7:07] I see the town of Plastability with their long-term planning to provide space for
[7:12] potential future sidewalk. As part of this project, there will not be a sidewalk on bridge.
[7:19] This will be reflected as basically a widened throughout the shoulder under the current condition,
[7:24] but it's very hard to widen the bridge after the fact. So the goal here is to not
[7:30] At the town of the future. On the west side of the bridge, you can see a four-bar redrail. That's mainly a two-standard item. It's appropriate for both pedestrian and bicycle safety or structures that four-bar is taller and what the intent there is is that that little that's sufficient with or without a sidewalk.
[7:55] So, the sidebarter to be added later, the tab would not need to be added to our panel.
[8:00] Sign.
[8:02] Similarly, on the right side, is a main duty of brewing for ash pest and grid rail that's suitable for
[8:09] bicycle pedestrian adjacent use.
[8:14] And just to note, the five-foot width on the left side of the bridge, that's only the
[8:21] be paved over the bridge in order to help protect the bridge deck. Like I said, other than that,
[8:28] that additional pipe feet are quit through this project area. We'll just look like a ground shoulder.
[8:33] And we have a bigger amount of calling slides up, kind of let's start with that.
[8:40] So this is a similar figure,
[8:41] but for the areas outside of the bridge within the project limits,
[8:47] this is a designs tie into
[8:49] that bridge section that we have showed, certainly.
[8:53] Wait, so I just described it all similar here.
[8:57] Some items to note here are, and just past people,
[9:01] a Carol, a little too of the structure being
[9:04] generally wider.
[9:06] One of the reasons for that is, is on the left and right side
[9:08] of the road near the guardrail.
[9:11] You can see three split-level platforms.
[9:13] One of the issues with the current roadway
[9:15] is that there's not enough fill around the guardrail.
[9:18] So this is going to be behind the guardrail to support it, and that leads to some of the tilting of the guardrail. They see it on site now. So again, this section has adequate area for proper installation of guardrail. So we can be maintained and function of the one for you, is this my coming down the road. I'm training for the eyes. Technically, this is heading towards the island.
[9:46] I hope there's going to be lots of, yes, thank you,
[10:31] some sink open the road.
[10:33] Ultimately, a repair implemented, that is very similar to what we're showing here on the right side.
[10:40] Do balance, protection of the critical bridge elements with
[10:46] in environmental, I guess, in the application
[10:49] in the environmental environment,
[10:54] you know, so if you'd say principles on the left side,
[10:58] so the northern side of the trade side of the road.
[11:01] Again, around the bridge, we need to make sure
[11:04] the bridge infrastructure are protected,
[11:07] so that will also utilize rip wrap,
[11:09] but our intent on that side is to utilize a detail
[11:12] where loan and other material capable split supporting plant life gets mixed into the
[11:20] rip wrap and the rip wrap is topped with it. Such that that slope can be seated with a salt
[11:25] tolerance, cyberspace, site specific, such marsh applicable plantings or grass. That would
[11:34] time, ideally, they stand a vegetation, establish this stuff there, and that does two things.
[11:42] It eliminates some of the just amount of plain root brackets visible, and also it does help
[11:47] additionally protect the root file, slope and slope of the root plain.
[11:56] So this is a representation of your standing on the road, looking out for a straight
[12:04] of generally what the cross-sectional will play.
[12:12] Some of the highlights here are along the right side of the roadway.
[12:19] The access for the adjacent property.
[12:22] That's probably the direct adjacent to the power bridge.
[12:26] Because that access must be maintained.
[12:30] Additionally, you can see the 10-foot lanes, the striped shoulders,
[12:36] and then the gravel
[12:37] shoulder along the left side. I didn't notice that fact that this doesn't reflect that
[12:42] gravel shoulder over the bridge being paved. There should be a kind of flare out on the pavement
[12:46] on that left side, over the bridge.
[12:53] This shows the proposed bridge railings that were previously
[12:55] discussed, and those transitioning back to more standard roadway guardrail within the project
[13:01] limits. The guardrail is just intended to be within within the vicinity of the bridge to the
[13:08] length that's needed. We're not proposing guardrail and both sides of the breaks out of the roadway
[13:13] all the way up to the island. And like I said, this shows the arrangement of the
[13:21] shoulders and trowings. And as most folks here know, what in contrast really what's out there
[13:27] currently is just to 10 foot paved lanes over the bridge. And once you're on the bridge,
[13:34] you're essentially walking on that white line against the current rail currently. So as you can see
[13:38] this provides plenty of space for bicycles and pedestrians on both sides.
[13:48] So I want to give folks an update
[13:50] on kind of where we're at project.
[13:52] So this is the third public information meeting.
[13:56] We are currently progressing through the final design
[13:58] of this project.
[14:01] So design elements are substantially developed at this point
[14:04] where we're kind of putting the final details to it.
[14:08] Next step will be the project to be advertised
[14:12] to allow contractors to bid on the project
[14:14] to construct it, but it'll occur in August.
[14:16] So what we're planning,
[14:20] it's anticipated that construction will begin in December and based
[14:26] on the anticipated timeline of this, we're looking at somewhere around May of 2017 for construction
[14:32] evolution.
[14:34] When your construction is being utilized at the site for two reasons, one is more environmental
[14:44] requirements, and these coastal conditions they require this type of construction with this type of
[14:49] impacts that you conducted all the winter, and then additionally that's the period of lowest
[14:54] track your plan on tricks on the proof.
[15:00] We're listening to sever an A right now for the construction duration. That exact dates of that will be known until a contractor selected, they'll be given dates in the contract that align with this in terms of when they can start and when they can finish, that will reflect these, but ultimately the exact starting on December 15th. We were viewed as part of their submitted construction schedule. So that will be determined at a later date.
[15:32] So you're going back to this important element is the maintenance of access to trade two and
[15:37] from Drake's island during construction.
[15:40] It was discussed at the previous meeting.
[15:43] Some of the alternatives for how the main team access to the island, the selected approach
[15:48] would be to U.S. phase construction.
[15:52] And I have some of the figures on subsequent slides that would kind of articulate the process of this.
[15:58] So, look at one lane, the traffic open, at all times, that both directions will have to
[16:05] share the flow of traffic will be managed by a automated traffic signal.
[16:14] This method was elected over constructing a full temporary bridge to the north of the existing
[16:22] bridge that could have allowed two domains of traffic.
[16:25] The reason that is utility impacts, there's a gravity stewardening running along that
[16:30] northern side of the roadway, so supporting the temporary bridge to the north
[16:34] would have been difficult, as well as the deal with substantially increasing environmental
[16:40] impacts, which would have exacerbated the earned conditions and process.
[16:49] It's just an additional consideration that we key to looking at the access will be
[16:55] maintain that access to adjacent properties, both to the property directly adjacent to the bridge, as well as I believe it's one of 11 Drake's Island Road.
[17:07] That property is the entrance to that property is just at the western limit of the project.
[17:13] So we're not anticipating coordination there being difficult, but assets that will actually fully maintain through a construction.
[17:23] There may be short duration closures where the flaggers have to manually close the road for 15 minutes,
[17:33] or either to literally truck to back into the construction site.
[17:36] I'll elaborate on this a little bit more later, but that is just someone who wanted to keep it aware of.
[17:41] And then where this will be being constructed to wintertime.
[17:45] It'll kind of be, it'll be within a construction zone.
[17:47] One way to trap it, another thing we'll be taking into account as we review submitted traffic control plans will be maintenance of the road during the winter, so making sure planning operations and such can be maintaining the safe route.
[18:07] So this is a cross section to help articulate what the phase construction is.
[18:13] This is kind of your standing out of the center.
[18:15] I have trade sign links and this will technically be looking towards the islands.
[18:22] So looking to the east, so in phase one, and I do a two more slides after this.
[18:28] That will show this through the aerial view to also help articulate this.
[18:34] Good during phase one, the portion of the bridge on the right side.
[18:39] of existing bridges in the ground, the right side of that will be maintained, and the contract
[18:46] will essentially remove kind of the left third of the bridge. And it's called as vertical,
[18:53] the sheet piles, those vertical lines near the center. The trap will be maintained on the right side
[19:00] of the existing bridge. And once the left side of the existing bridge is out of the way, they'll build
[19:05] the new bridge, the northern section of the new bridge,
[19:10] and that was shown to the left side of the figure and gray.
[19:19] The second phase,
[19:23] traffic will be moved up onto that new bridge
[19:26] that is shown in gray,
[19:28] and then at that point the contract will be able
[19:30] to finish demolishing the old bridge, the southern half,
[19:34] and they will then build the southern half of the new bridge.
[19:40] So, this is an area that you're showing based on.
[19:46] So, the large area, or myself start by saying,
[19:50] this is approximate.
[19:53] The way trap control works is the contractor,
[19:58] the exact operation of this is typically put on the contractor.
[20:03] So, they will submit a contract control plan that meets the requirements
[20:06] that the town, CMA in here, suggests fourth and contract documents, but they'll submit a
[20:12] plan to put town, CMA in here, to a regular route. So this is approximate, but for this type of
[20:18] construction and project, this is what we're anticipating approximately seeing. So the work area
[20:24] in this phase one is the green area on the north side of the road. You can see the signals that
[20:32] end and traffic will be finalized into the southern lane during this phase.
[20:50] So phase 2 is essentially
[20:53] an offset of phase 1. Once they build that northern half of the bridge and the end bank
[20:58] can set me up to a traffic will be directed over onto that northern side and the work area will switch
[21:05] down into these other side and then they'll build the second phase of the bridge, which is
[21:09] shown here in red. Just an overall comment on chapter control. We are looking through
[21:17] what the contract documents will be set up for. The town we're looking forward is starting to
[21:22] goal. The chapter control is to maximize safety during instruction to the public and the workers
[21:29] maximizing efficiency of construction. So that's not taking longer or costing more than it needs to.
[21:37] And then limit what we're all in that on travel power.
[21:46] So like I said, after the design phase is complete, the next step will be to
[21:52] to the town to advertise the project to get a contractor to build it.
[21:57] see an engineer's will be supplying contract plans and documents for contractors for review
[22:06] and called their vids the other day's dawn,
[22:12] interest in this process, typically when
[22:17] a project be advertised it'll be listed on towns website. So those documents should be available
[22:23] and then once contractors have had a chance to pull their vids together by a specified date,
[22:28] Please, please, please, please.
[22:30] Or, typically, open publicly and read aloud, just for transparency across us.
[22:38] CNN changed to be assisting the town during the stage.
[22:42] We will be assist with reviewing the bids, or looking forward to making sure all the numbers are correct.
[22:49] Correctly added up, multiplied, et cetera.
[22:54] that they haven't missed any of the requirements and things like that, just please be
[22:58] going to make sure it's a complete after it did. Because mistakes do happen and sometimes
[23:03] they do affect food with the low there is and things like that. So we come through that and
[23:09] provide a recommendation with town and the town is the one that town of all that decides what
[23:15] contractor is select. Typically and in most cases like in this case the contractor would be selected
[23:21] based on combination. Typically, you look at the logo that are as long as they're did as long
[23:26] as they're ballified and their proposal is completely natural.
[23:36] So the construction sequence
[23:38] of bridge engineer, I love details. I will not bore you all the going through the whole sequence of
[23:45] it's struck in your bridge get by a bit. So it's way too nice out for that. So in the head of some
[23:51] high points, I'm definitely at half of the same, but it has any specific questions of points
[23:55] interest, feel free to ask question after. So it starts kind of with the contractors
[24:01] securing the site, so it's getting traffic control in place and getting erosion to
[24:06] troll edges in place. That kind of allows traffic to be progressing safely. And the site
[24:12] contains, so it's not causing any unnecessary environmental impacts. From there, the contractor will
[24:20] you'll install likely a combination of sheet steel sheet piles and sand ends to
[24:26] de-water the area. The area where the bridge is going to be built needs to be dry.
[24:32] So with the title conditions here they're going to have to construct the set of
[24:37] copper dams basically to keep the work the work area to dry during all times. Once that's done
[24:43] then let's all steel sheet steel piles. That's what bridge is going to be supported on.
[24:47] There's a particular clay and soft marsh materials at this site that will marsh make sense.
[24:53] So steel piles will be driven down through that to support a bridge from their concrete will be placed to tile those piles together.
[25:03] And then finally the precast bridge bridge frame that's going to sit at top of those foundation elements will be delivered and set in place to the crane.
[25:14] They'll do that for phase one, they'll likely ship some of their water controls around, and then they'll repeat the process for phase two.
[25:25] Once the full bridge is installed, they will construct the wriggling advancements, and wriggle service, and then towards the tail of the process project, they're essentially working on restoring the site, restoring disturbed areas near the total slope, and things like that.
[25:45] So like I've noted a couple of times, public safety is paramount during this project.
[25:51] Why say public safety, I do also mean safety of the workers.
[25:58] So,
[26:02] these are just a couple of things that we find generally good to keep in mind.
[26:08] So this is going to be a very active work site.
[26:11] It's constrained the site with the steam on our causeway.
[26:15] The rowways kind of get down to the single lane.
[26:18] Contractor is going to be working in narrow area.
[26:22] So it's just important to remember that the site
[26:26] can change daily.
[26:28] So being aware is your driving through here is important.
[26:32] By the same thing.
[26:35] As I noted, work may require temporary short term
[26:38] structures to trap it, the fliders, so as I said, for delivery of materials, if they need to
[26:43] set the pre-castered frames, and those have to be swung out over the roadway, they can't swing them
[26:48] over an active roadway. So, another thing to keep in mind is there may be short-term interruptions
[26:55] about those would be handled with blinders on site, so they would be clear about it.
[27:05] Curiosity happens, but the public should not enter or approach the worst site.
[27:10] We sound a little crazy, but we see it fairly often.
[27:14] I get curious about construction projects all the time.
[27:18] But like I said, this is going to be very constrained work site.
[27:21] A lot of moving pieces, deep excavations on areas with health water.
[27:28] So it's important to obey any signage, medicine, etc.
[27:34] even slowing down and trafficking is trying to be a view, can cause hazards, so we just
[27:40] like to remind people of that. And then this doesn't typically happen, but again, just with that
[27:46] kind of idea of not wanting the public generally approaching the work site, if there are issues,
[27:53] or grievances that come up through a construction, like I said, it would be a very busy work site,
[27:58] Those should be directed to the town of sure more information can be made available, where and how.
[28:06] But we generally find that issues don't get resolved as quickly or as smoothly.
[28:14] By parking at the road, walking back and walking out and saying trying to fly somebody down to talk to a person.
[28:19] So we do just like to remind both staff the best way things handled quickly.
[28:24] Fishing me is to alert town and then be construction engineer can be can help for the place in those.
[28:36] So I think this is my last slide. So I thought it would be appropriate to kind of end with.
[28:41] This is a substantial process to get here.
[28:45] It's a substantial project.
[28:48] So I want to kind of end on what is the, what are the time getting here? What's the conclusion of all this?
[28:56] And so, yes, why are we doing this?
[28:58] Why are we spending money on this?
[29:00] Why is this interruption worth it?
[29:03] So, firstly, safety, you know, that all the public meetings,
[29:07] it was a priority listed to us by the town,
[29:11] even ahead of any designer evaluation period.
[29:16] So, the addition of things like shoulders,
[29:18] the life of pedestrian railings,
[29:21] and the length of the duration of what they've
[29:25] missed would trap the column or all components
[29:27] that are trying to be a safer crossing.
[29:31] The existing structure has reached the end of its useful life.
[29:34] The town has recently made the idea of your reports that
[29:38] confirmed this. We've reviewed the bridge at the onset of the project.
[29:44] And so the new bridge will be a full-in-use structure 75 plus year design life of the build
[29:53] with modern materials and will be, have been designed to meet main VOT standards, so
[30:00] On the other hand, the town's getting is seeing what she's beginning for a T.O.T. bridge is top of the line, and the design line will be matched to that.
[30:10] And then finally, really just resiliency of the overall structure and area, so this is by
[30:21] elevator in the roadway, adding stone passion on the southern side. We're looking to increase
[30:30] the resiliency of the crossing to flooding, wave damage to storm events or from storm
[30:36] events. By advertising the crossing, we're looking to ensure that both in the short term and
[30:42] long term flows to the inland marsh area, or not be restricted to make sure of the resiliency
[30:47] of that area is mass-massed. And then being
[30:52] freezing of a zone C to changing traffic levels,
[30:55] as I said, I think I can demonstrate some making sure
[30:58] that the structure has facilities for
[31:01] life's best dreams that meet current and potential future needs.
[31:08] And so that is the conclusion. And I bring now, yeah, we can just roll
[31:12] right into a question and insert session.
[31:19] I don't know, you won't call it closer.
[31:22] I don't think you can.
[31:24] All right.
[31:25] She has started to come all the way back.
[31:26] Sir, sure.
[31:27] I feel proud of the recording.
[31:29] I don't be true.
[31:31] What's the current thinking for an area in the right?
[31:34] And should that be all in cost for this?
[31:36] Well, hi.
[31:36] I know.
[31:38] Until you get the bits, sort of.
[31:40] Yes, I'm going to be curious.
[31:41] What are the bits?
[31:42] What are the bits?
[31:42] What are the bits?
[31:42] What are the bits?
[31:44] What are the bits?
[31:47] I noticed that the human marsh was part of the federal grant in addition to the marsh,
[31:52] some of the funds you go to the fridge, so I'm just curious what the source of funding
[31:56] is all right between the town, the state, and the federal, and what I'm really getting at is
[32:00] a concern that some of the funds might be held up, even if it's going on in March.
[32:05] to get an example of what you are. So, right now, our construction cost estimate for this
[32:13] is rate around 2.5 million. The town currently has a grant for that full amount. So,
[32:24] for example. So, that came through the same program as the Marshall Street sort of,
[32:29] No. Yes. Yeah. So a network grant for that full instruction amount. That's how that's being covered.
[32:37] And so I was at a 2.5 million. That's finally we're going to turn it through to this.
[32:44] That's a, we calculated that with a fairly detailed approach to that this stage of the process. We don't know if they have a high level on it.
[32:51] Based on current devices. That's what that's what it ever said. It's 2.5.
[32:55] And it's just be clear, well, the town will get those funds to actually complete the product.
[33:00] Is that correct?
[33:01] We're going to urge the town sitting on the funds.
[33:03] Probably going to tell you that.
[33:05] I believe and I believe town has the funds.
[33:10] Can you tell me those?
[33:12] Great.
[33:13] Thank you.
[33:13] Thank you, my 15.
[33:16] Middle, second row.
[33:18] I'm going to actually go about a couple of questions.
[33:20] I've already answered.
[33:20] at 432 Drake's side of the road. Will this new bridge have any effect of the rise of the
[33:28] title in the Marsha area, either during construction or after completed completion?
[33:35] Yep. So currently the bridge is not a significant
[33:43] independent to title of Shane, that our modeling show is going to worsen over time. So in the short term,
[33:54] no, it will not cause a change in the title of Shane in the inland in the inland in
[34:14] long-term, long-term, it's not been raised the elevation. It's just over time the seal up
[34:24] of it would have been getting hot. In theory would be getting higher. Both seward and inland
[34:31] would be rising coincident at the same rate until a certain point where the bridge would start
[34:37] choking off that flow. So, it wouldn't, the bridge itself wouldn't be causing, at that point,
[34:44] the bridge would be actually holding, holding back,
[34:46] and we're keeping the timels inland of the bridge less
[34:49] than the coastal area of Ciberd area.
[34:52] Like that, it's a couple of orders.
[34:53] Yeah, one of them.
[34:54] Okay, the pedestrian bike that that's only
[34:57] to be on that bridge, right?
[34:58] Once that bridge ends, there's not gonna be a path
[35:00] for the pedestrians or the bikes
[35:02] for like the second bridge and the rest of the way.
[35:05] Is that correct?
[35:06] Yeah, you're referring to that five that five put grabway?
[35:08] Yeah, yeah.
[35:10] So that, yes, that is contained to justice,
[35:13] in this project area, it extends beyond the limits of the bridge because we have to kind of
[35:17] taper it. Okay, that's just to say I need to do that. So the people who are more so
[35:22] bikes, because they're traveling at a greater speed that all of them they have this five foot
[35:27] path and all of them they're coming down to nothing. Yeah. So always it does. It probably stands up
[35:31] approximately 150 feet to the side of the bridge and the gravel shoulder will taper in over one
[35:38] period and then even even the page for what white land inside the remainder growing in the
[35:45] correction doesn't have that facility so similarly those were have to taper in over time
[35:50] and it's typical to add some visual to add some signage of white land ends but yeah we're trying
[35:57] to stop as much as possible because yeah the last thing you want is just the one going on on the
[36:00] white land yeah I had a group of the ending so that is that is a kind of thing and a couple more
[36:06] that is it only going to be day construction or is it going to be night and day?
[36:10] Because Russian is generally limited to the day time. One of the things we're going to look at
[36:14] at the town on this is with this data title project. Those are more challenging to item-wise.
[36:19] So, a typical workout for construction project are set into 5, 8 to 5. Sometimes for coastal projects
[36:28] like this, we will discuss with the town whether it makes sense to open those up a little bit.
[36:33] But we're definitely not talking about construction at two in the world.
[36:37] Yeah. So I, and I just was curious. And then my last one, sorry,
[36:41] Norris, like when it's a complete closure, the only issue that I have or concern would be is
[36:47] if there's an emergency on the island, there's an ambulance and it's closed. Will the town or
[36:53] something left to know so that they can open it so when the ambulance comes and we'll be open
[36:56] for them to get through. Yeah. So in that process, I said, if there are any
[37:02] very short duration pull closer. The contract will be required to have a full set of
[37:06] flaggers on site. So if they've held traffic at either approach, there's a flag
[37:11] there and there's an ambulance coming. The flagger would believe that the ambulance down
[37:16] the open lane through the contract would be alerted. They'd move whatever instruction
[37:20] on the way as quickly as possible, hold the lift, whatever the ambulance would be allowed to pass.
[37:24] How do I wear that?
[37:25] Very good.
[37:26] Thank you.
[37:26] You're welcome.
[37:29] Yeah.
[37:31] The current bridge is in such terrible condition that I told my friends, I agree with the time we go over it, hoping that the leaders don't call through. And I'm not even kidding. Is there a plan that the bridge should fail, the point of the summer, construction can start? Is there a plan for continuing access to the other?
[37:50] Um, I really hope that's not the issue because we are this we're this close to destruction.
[37:57] Um, it's not it's really.
[37:59] So.
[38:00] I didn't get the question.
[38:02] So the point the question was if something were to happen to the,
[38:06] uh, bridge between now and and when the stars start so if something happened and failed,
[38:12] what would be the contingency for providing access to the island.
[38:15] I mean, destiny of the town would have to address with an engineer,
[38:20] as a verbi, and rapid mobilization of something to stand that.
[38:27] As long as this design incorporates, obviously this could potentially be set up to make it available faster.
[38:34] But that happens.
[38:35] I mean, the storm events working into these are cut off,
[38:38] and there's a variety of solutions in terms of getting quick access to that to a site.
[38:45] I'll talk about it.
[38:47] Yeah.
[38:47] You've got enough device to be answered.
[38:49] Well, I mean, oh, oh, away, away, I've seen it done in other locations for similar circumstances with proper permitting agencies contacted is I've seen communities throwing a really large pipe that's stock.
[39:05] So, but go and find the stock six foot diamond or plastic pipe, throw it in and bury it.
[39:11] And essentially, you left it a very cold bird for four months until the structure can start.
[39:16] That's the way I've seen it handle for, like, large storage, where roads are washed out.
[39:21] You're all, um, just real quick. I want you to come back to your address. I left off the
[39:25] end of your question of the hangups. Oh, if that funding is not available.
[39:28] We're going to write it all good. Well, you just press that back. It sounded like you were applying that
[39:32] no agreement it covers every time. Yes. And then some don't have the back set. It's not like
[39:37] a couple of town's got the funds sick. So there should be no risk for those funds. Correct.
[39:42] They didn't allocate it. Right. I want to give you. Yep. All right. You're going to keep on with the
[39:49] little girl. So now we're there. Yep. It's always been a concern. I don't know.
[39:57] It's always been a concern.
[39:59] mine, if there was an emergency, is there another exit off and on the island? It's available for all of us
[40:08] in any time. I don't know many, to my knowledge, there's only one exit in and out who have never
[40:14] had to use and not have been here quite a few years, but now they're going to be working on this main role.
[40:24] There's another way to get on and off the island. That's good. Well, unfortunately, there's not,
[40:28] And that's kind of one of the reasons why this project is so important.
[40:34] There's cases where immunists and immunists values are not as forward looking and a bridge deteriorates even further.
[40:42] A bridge is deteriorated much further.
[40:45] And if a town waits till there's a hole in the deck to replace it, then you get in the situation where you're losing access to town.
[40:53] Thankfully, started planning this and thinking about this four years ago, was able to hear
[40:58] funding in partnership with the Well Reserve. And so, in short, there is another access. And that's
[41:05] why it's so important that this bridge view replace the migration. Can I just stay there now?
[41:11] I'm going to have an exit. If we need to get to you on the island, we can. If we need to get to you
[41:20] get you off the island, we can go through bottom and farm, we'll take your TV, you can get
[41:25] down through that. What if you sign off your hour?
[41:28] He's skating that, this is not a cool thing, and it's very sad, I don't know, I don't know.
[41:33] And then nobody else, we went with emergency, but what's that?
[41:38] What's that? Police, are you with the eye of? Oh, okay.
[41:40] We'll get you off. We will get you off. Yeah, okay. All right. All right.
[41:50] Can I just, Rebecca, do we have any questions coming in on Facebook?
[41:54] It's not that much, it's not that much.
[41:56] All right, they're all back, Rose started on that, yeah.
[41:59] They're both fully, sort of, Jay Lane.
[42:02] When you're down, there's a one-lane traffic.
[42:04] What is the width of the lanes from the D in conjunction with the width of our, why are different?
[42:10] So the proposed minimum width of the single lane with 11 feet.
[42:18] And that's on the narrow side, but it's within typical limits.
[42:23] You think about standard, standard vehicle limits to three, about eight feet.
[42:27] So fire truck is a little on the boat, both your side of the, all the actors on it.
[42:31] But let me eat this fish for that.
[42:33] And we measure our ladder truck.
[42:37] But I had not, but again, based on previous experience,
[42:42] I'm pretty sure it doesn't beat sufficient.
[42:43] So just blasts, busierly the boat went,
[42:47] but the British was done when it's a battle camp,
[42:50] but then, so I'll try to explain it to the car.
[42:53] But then I get through that, so it's very,
[42:54] but I don't have the time to do that.
[42:59] But I still don't have the time to do that.
[43:03] Well, then you know that the bridge is the bridge in the same location?
[43:10] Yes.
[43:11] Okay.
[43:11] But if you, well, that can history all the waterways from the high times,
[43:21] but into the wall where the guideway was, and the big stones.
[43:25] And three times, you know, for example, at the end of England here, that right there, by the wall, has been replaced two years ago.
[43:33] I was in the construction company for 10 years.
[43:38] We built the sand in the bridge, the sand in the bank,
[43:44] where they put it in the stone.
[43:46] So the bridge should have been when it water
[43:48] and then be detamaging to the roadway for years.
[43:52] Maybe they didn't move it.
[43:54] So the way one of the reasons for that,
[43:57] any of these title-channel areas are very complex
[44:00] and they're ever changing.
[44:02] Because of that channel, they've been washing away
[44:04] the bank is a long time because you can't hold water.
[44:09] Water has its own direction and it should have been
[44:13] the bridge to the water boat, not with the state of the boat.
[44:18] Yeah, so it's an excellent point.
[44:21] And part of the way that this is going to help
[44:23] a lady that is the curb bridge has a 10 foot opening,
[44:28] the proposed, so it's in the same spot that proposed bridge
[44:31] has an opening of 22 feet.
[44:33] But you don't say anything.
[44:36] Oftentimes, when bridges are undersized, that is when you see,
[44:41] It's not the book, it's the book, it's the book.
[44:45] It's the book of high-tech, and the waterway is filled with water.
[44:49] It functions in the satin field bank, it's not the downing that and the other, it starts.
[44:54] It's not as far as eight times for four to five years.
[44:58] So it was going to do it again.
[45:00] But yeah, our intent was with the stand of the bridge, the stone, the shaping of the inlets, based on our experience, what we're proposing should we do that
[45:15] with people on the right distance.
[45:18] I'm a him.
[45:20] I'm wondering, this was a start earlier and things always tend to go a little bit later, et cetera.
[45:26] Why wouldn't we keep this on schedule to be more like an ovember star to sort of protect me, June,
[45:32] or is I'm worried about the timing? Why would we start a November 1st of civil impact?
[45:39] So the change from ovember to December is really based on and we're working to accelerate the
[45:48] science, once we can, but it's a scrappy design, leading the contractor times curatorials.
[45:56] So, but I did that's an excellent point.
[45:58] That's something that we've discussed with the town where we're aware of.
[46:02] And we will be continuing to look at, as we set contract dates to incentivize the contractors,
[46:09] as much as possible to make sure we leave as much of a buffer on the talents we do recognize that that's a,
[46:15] The series was streaming. Yes.
[46:20] The high resolution of the bridge, do you anticipate on-game on the inner side of the roadways,
[46:27] especially the side that's next to the hill coming down from the road one, then if so,
[46:33] with their designs, I think, gave that fish.
[46:37] On the roadway, or? Right. And will you, is there a plan to send that water off somewhere?
[46:44] Yeah, so what I mean, we're going to utilize a fairly standard roadway cross section.
[46:51] That's largely in mirrors what's there now.
[46:56] So water will shed just off the either side of the roadway largely as it does now.
[47:02] With the bridge being higher.
[47:05] Some of the water is going to as it's draining off the road side to side,
[47:10] be training away from the bridge. But with the short length of this, I don't have an exact number
[47:17] for you, but we expect the kind of change and drainage around the bridge to the next one.
[47:25] That is your question. Okay. Maybe I wanted to go back. Hi, John Melian. I love at the time
[47:33] the drinks I have in the program. Would be a link. I'm assuming for those of us that walk you around
[47:38] that we're now walking down the road during this project?
[47:43] So I think that's something,
[47:44] I guess it's an important point
[47:46] and I applaud you for walking in the middle of winter.
[47:51] No, I guess that's a good point.
[47:53] I think as we finalized track control details,
[47:58] that's the million we can discuss and see what's kind.
[48:02] There will be anything there that necessarily says
[48:05] you can't walk through there.
[48:06] But obviously for safety standpoint, it would be kind of up to the use for whether you feel safe within that kind of 11 foot traversing that.
[48:15] And then you mentioned safety a lot and can you give us a little bit more detail on where that widen widening side of rage will end going to the island because looking at it, it looks like it's going to end the other that really big curve.
[48:34] And because of the restrictions now parking on the island parking lines with two to a car,
[48:42] we have 10 grandchildren ages 4 to 18 who are now required to ride their bikes down.
[48:49] And I'm more concerned now, I was concerned before about them being on the bridge,
[48:54] but now that bridge is going to end and they're going to get that really dangerous curve,
[48:58] where cars were coming up and they're going to be coming into the cars. So will it end right at that
[49:06] that really bad, but I'm sure you know. You started talking with the curve to the east of the bridge?
[49:11] I'm talking about the curve. Yes. So actually, it ends before that. That's why it's actually
[49:20] before that hurt. Yeah. Do you know where the if you're going out on the island? There's kind of a gravel
[49:28] pull off area close to the bridge? Sure. It's approximately in the air where it's going to be
[49:33] flaring at, yes. So we weren't sure until it's meeting what was going to happen because our
[49:37] another has been a lot of requests and discussions about bypass and walkways going all the way down the road.
[49:44] What would we bring our concerns to with this ending where it does?
[49:50] Don't, don't, don't be, I say, to the count.
[49:53] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Michael.
[49:57] I hope you enjoyed it.
[49:58] And that was my next thing you mentioned.
[50:01] Don't talk to them.
[50:02] Which I totally get the workers.
[50:03] You know, for your grievances to the town.
[50:06] But that's a, you know, that's kind of like a very, who's the town?
[50:10] That's it.
[50:11] That's it.
[50:11] It was a little bit, we're right here.
[50:13] It's very listening.
[50:15] Yeah.
[50:15] And I mean, that the, the, the, something like this, I, we do understand that, when looking at it,
[50:25] we're improving this one small area.
[50:26] Obviously, the trace on road is much longer, a corridor, the kind of the way we approach that
[50:31] and with count of professional starters, there's an opportunity to improve this area.
[50:37] And so we, to work within the funding and available, we did as much as we could at this area, but the old, the primary goal there was to make sure the town wasn't limiting itself in the future.
[50:47] And so that's why, especially this town, we look at adding that five even north side. So it does limit it to this area, but the process of the thought process was to make sure the town isn't limited.
[51:01] Yes, on the end.
[51:02] Yes, to follow our pay more of them from heat down, to follow along with a question of ponding
[51:09] gaseous approach to raised bridge, I was concerned about that because we have ponding now.
[51:17] I mean, there's something wrong now as far as brainage, so you get ponding there.
[51:23] So if you're like developing to bridge and put more water there without adding brains or
[51:30] road, pipes or something. I can't see how it is in the middle of your works. I hate to build
[51:37] the bridge and create more of a safety hazard where we get on and get freezing there with ice.
[51:44] And so if you really haven't looked at that, I would suggest that with these folks, you really do
[51:52] or at least have to plan for, you know, phase two is to have some idea about that.
[52:00] Yeah, no, it's excellent point. And then just to clarify a little bit, sorry.
[52:02] And again, you started you generally talking about ponding within a roadway,
[52:06] within the shoulder area, on the lawns off the side, the shoulder did extends
[52:10] onto the pavement. So if it doesn't drain, yeah, I don't wear it.
[52:14] It's exactly supposed to go in your approach to the already shacking and those parking
[52:19] a lot's there. But whatever, the back is in backs up into the road and you know, I know
[52:27] drive a little car that I try to keep clean, so I'm going to
[52:32] I don't want to slide as the model over like our own. So, you know, I know we're going to have to put me home. And a second question that I had if I'm like, you mentioned the width of the road, what should come to bridge and have, if we change the road capacity. So that's the one we've looked at, yeah, because you're going to propose kind of bridge and have something like that.
[52:59] So the configuration of the bridge with the timber, the way it's configured,
[53:03] the timber stringers and the timber deck, the stringers are running the correct
[53:08] direction that through our chest, we're able to confirm that they can take off.
[53:14] It'll probably be the northern three or four teams.
[53:20] But that will not change.
[53:22] That will change the capacity of the remaining section.
[53:25] So, the guys that are constructing over the one and a day can get there, ready next
[53:28] crops back and forth over this little piece and that's why, for
[53:35] hectic construction vehicles, that's the thing we are going to have to address during
[53:38] construction.
[53:39] I know, I think the town did consult me during a time when I drew some construction work
[53:44] being done out by Drace Island, maybe I think there was some sand being brought out for
[53:48] our work.
[53:49] So, that was a period when there was a large volume of heavy trucks flowing over the bridge
[53:54] And that was something where the town had us come in and do kind of an extra check to make sure that that was going to be okay.
[54:01] And so as we work with the contractor, once we find out exactly what equipment they'll bring on, that's that's for a nation that'll have to happen and will happen during construction to make sure that the bridge isn't being ordered.
[54:13] Well, one graduate that happens all year or two,
[54:18] fuel delivery, all that kind of stuff.
[54:22] And to circle back to your drainage question,
[54:25] so likely the reason why you're seeing Connie and the shoulders
[54:31] is the ground shoulders there with people either pulling off
[54:34] or going around items over time,
[54:36] gravel shoulders naturally kind of become compacted.
[54:39] And that will lead to kind of a depression and shoulder, which is then going to hold water.
[54:46] This project, as you guys in responding to another question I said, this project is based on funding limited to where it's limited.
[54:52] Within these project limits, the roadway being constructed with a cross section to facilitate full drainage off the roadways.
[55:03] So this is where you're here, you can see what this kind of subtle, but the road will
[55:11] have a continuous transverse pitch of 2% media direction, it varies a little going around
[55:17] the curve, but the
[57:09] project showed that, I don't know what the traffic light is going to be.
[57:14] The area that's, well, try to set those plans in front of it, the area, the length of the
[57:22] So the that comb-off area of the lights I get you're probably getting 100 feet or something.
[57:29] Is that I believe you? This is the question you wouldn't have been coming on from Drace Highland.
[57:34] I see this structure which is 4 feet higher than the current road.
[57:41] Well why the line of sight to the top of Drace Highland?
[57:46] You know, we're during time growth type, and when you're driving off, there's so many else coming over the bridge that I don't see until they're on the bridge.
[57:57] So the, uh, that profile roadway has been designed to meet, um,
[58:03] etc.
[58:04] But really designed criteria.
[58:06] So, um, that is fact that it's taken to account the involved drive down this.
[58:13] Well, it will be inclined or before it's that would be fine.
[58:16] I have a four, four object, but I can't see all this work for your research, and yeah,
[58:25] that'll be an issue when the research is solved. And it will still be a bridge when
[58:29] a way that I like to change. Yeah. Okay, but I can't tell anybody more. Yeah, that's not
[58:35] okay. So the distance of heart with those light may be good, if I, or the risk of
[58:41] about them. But if they're buried in that wild site, I can see it because I know everyone
[58:47] will always follow the lights, you know, don't know who we left them. Jump that light on
[58:52] very time, but the middle of it. By the way, so it's just, why is it really back to the side?
[58:59] There is definitely you're paving the depth of the bridge there. Yes, now it's going to be this
[59:08] 20, we're about 150 feet. We'll enclaw high. Yeah, the word is 22 feet or later and by the
[59:15] minute, the decline of our, and I know I understand you do not, but count for that this
[59:23] project, but I don't understand why can't you, I count for that, why can't pay?
[59:33] The end
[59:34] up and the deep finding down. So that we people are going to be walking down the road. Like I come to
[59:41] I guess I'm going out. We better off if they came to our eighth section and went up. Is that
[59:47] strictly cost-insert? The whole area of the project anywhere where the crate is changing. So as soon as
[59:56] that starts ramping up. That's all within the project limits.
[1:00:00] All of that is getting rebuilt and taped.
[1:00:03] In terms of the roadway in the short term, all right, we need to show up if the shoulders getting paid.
[1:00:08] Within the project plan, yes, towards the very limits, it will start to keep running back to meet existing,
[1:00:15] but it's not going to be just the bridge getting redeemed and the ramps up to it,
[1:00:19] but I'm not just existing, that full length within the project plan is,
[1:00:23] a bully will be in fact I will get this improved for always but I'm on the bridge and I
[1:00:30] step off the bridge I'm walking towards the island of this path I will be walking on a paid
[1:00:37] service. I love you walking on a ground of service. If you're if you're within the shoulder or the
[1:00:44] app or shoulder or travel way you'll be walking on payments it's only that five foot ground of
[1:00:51] on the far left, that's just paved at the bridge.
[1:00:56] It's only paved, but that doesn't cross to the bridge.
[1:00:59] Yes, to reach out to the bridge.
[1:01:01] Correct. That gravel shoulder.
[1:01:04] The gravel shoulder essentially, the gravel shoulder theory
[1:01:09] shouldn't be needed.
[1:01:11] The four foot, the four foot lanes are meant to provide that
[1:01:14] by some pedestrian access.
[1:01:16] That gravel shoulder being there.
[1:01:18] In the meantime, at this point, it's not a sidewalk.
[1:01:20] There's nothing to stop folks from walking on it.
[1:01:25] I'm going to be a lot going to walk.
[1:01:27] I'd rather have them on a bicycle to take off.
[1:01:31] I'm going to do that on the safer.
[1:01:34] So the intent would be for them to use the page shoulder.
[1:01:38] We cut it by improvisation to the town.
[1:01:41] That full five foot width could be paved.
[1:01:43] The intent there was to.
[1:01:47] We'll in it the overall width of the pavement because with the addition.
[1:01:50] These four book shoulders, we are already substantially increasing the kind of cave
[1:01:55] area. So to limit this from looking like an expansive caveman, that's why the thought
[1:02:00] was to leave that five-foot area as gravel. But that was a thought process, but there is
[1:02:07] not even preventing it from being... Or any good rock paper. But that would be the separation
[1:02:12] of the pedestrian lane from the gravel lane. So based on current projects, discussions,
[1:02:20] the intense is not fully able to be any separation.
[1:02:25] That was discussed early on in the project,
[1:02:28] and the thought was, I mean, there's a variety of
[1:02:32] delineation methods that communities,
[1:02:34] families can use on roadways.
[1:02:37] The thought process, I think, the discussion of the
[1:02:39] town early on was that there's definitely
[1:02:42] there definitely could be a benefit to using those.
[1:02:45] But in terms of maintenance,
[1:02:47] following, et cetera, the added challenge of that.
[1:02:51] So again, our goal here was the width is there
[1:02:55] if there are issues and the town would like to look
[1:02:59] at adding those after there's nothing preventing it
[1:03:02] because all of the width is here once the bridge is built.
[1:03:05] All right, everybody, we've come to see the little
[1:03:07] plenty of that.
[1:03:08] That's not enough.
[1:03:09] We've seen that done before.
[1:03:11] You guys are going to be going to be an issue pit.
[1:03:14] You know, how do you separate up here?
[1:03:16] And then it will be striped, but I do understand what you're saying, in terms of their armaments, it's for more visual delineations.
[1:03:24] Well, the idea of me, I realize it's the founding project that there's something that the who saved you.
[1:03:31] To do that, the idea of me being paid all the way up the invite and doubly in one time.
[1:03:36] I think it would be a good first step.
[1:03:40] All right, John, another guy at the beginning of the law
[1:03:46] and described him about a continuum in the walkway
[1:03:49] and he's talking about all the ways that he talked to the hell.
[1:03:53] When he's driving up to the hell,
[1:03:55] he told us we're going to go in.
[1:03:57] And he gets it because of the role of the religion with the road, right?
[1:04:01] There's very different kinds of things people saw in it,
[1:04:04] walking down the road.
[1:04:06] That haven't been made in consideration.
[1:04:09] So yeah, that was time.
[1:04:11] The overall.
[1:04:14] The extent of the side was something that was discussed
[1:04:17] at the onset of the project.
[1:04:19] Again, given the available funding and the focus of the bridge,
[1:04:24] we're looking to improve as much of the roadways possible
[1:04:27] and again, in discussing this with the town,
[1:04:30] their intent is if we'll give to them.
[1:04:35] because if that's what you're describing, that does sound dangerous, so that's something the town wants to move forward in the future.
[1:04:45] Again, the goal was to make sure that the bridge does not stop improving that.
[1:04:50] So the way we have this laid out is intended to make sure that if the town and the future moves a project like that forward, which the concerns you will be noted are definitely valid.
[1:05:02] that this structure wouldn't prevent them from doing that.
[1:05:06] Hold it in town.
[1:05:07] May this is, it was communication with public works
[1:05:11] and down on mental or office.
[1:05:15] They've been the point of communication
[1:05:17] and are, and they are our clients,
[1:05:19] so that they're really the communication.
[1:05:24] Work down here and you, sir.
[1:05:26] What would be the impact on the other features
[1:05:32] of the design of this bridge. If the elevator, the forefoot elevation was eliminated and the bridge was built
[1:05:40] at the current level.
[1:05:46] In terms of the bridge itself, it would not change
[1:05:52] really anything. What would change would really be the sloping axe to either side because as the bridge
[1:06:01] goes up, the slopes need to be connected down to me, the existing rays. So the higher you go,
[1:06:07] kind of the further out your slopes, go. So the bridge wouldn't really change, but the projects
[1:06:11] would get narrower with fewer impacts if you didn't raise it on.
[1:06:17] So I'm looking for a negative impact.
[1:06:20] Are there any negative impacts on the design that you've presented if it was the same bridge,
[1:06:25] except you would eliminate it before foot elevation? Yeah. Yeah. So the reason that was
[1:06:31] Again, no, no, no, no, my question was, were there any, what are, are there any negative impacts of not raising the bridge for feet on the other features of the bridge?
[1:06:42] I mean, could you build this design as designed with all the features that you've described to us today?
[1:06:47] But you built it without the forefoot elevation, yes, you could.
[1:06:52] Yes, there would be no negative impacts on the rest of the design.
[1:06:55] If we take out the considerations of why you're raising it for feet, the negative impacts which
[1:07:03] be in terms of the structure would be less resilient to flooding, form, surge, and damage
[1:07:10] from those events.
[1:07:11] That would be the negative of not rising it as it would be in.
[1:07:16] And we also would lose our funding.
[1:07:21] That's Michael.
[1:07:25] That's Michael.
[1:07:25] that my point is, that's the only reason we're raising this thing for.
[1:07:30] The House side outside pressure.
[1:07:32] The last one,
[1:07:36] though.
[1:07:37] Yeah, letting other people decide.
[1:07:39] No, it was an internal decision from the project partners to look at pressure. Right now, the existing
[1:07:51] structure doesn't mean you may need you to need guidelines.
[1:07:54] May need you to says this, the ex clearance under a bridge. It doesn't mean that.
[1:07:59] Okay. Things like that. That's so it wasn't okay.
[1:08:01] then just let me ask the question,
[1:08:06] what are the negative impacts to the overall design of if you
[1:08:11] built this bridge as its other than the fact that you couldn't get the funding. If we built the bridge
[1:08:15] without before foot elevation, could you achieve a bridge with meets all the DOT standards and does
[1:08:21] all these other things? No, no, no. It has to be raised to meet DOT standards as well as
[1:08:29] as well as other businesses that they have.
[1:08:31] We'll see.
[1:08:32] And we'll ask the audience.
[1:08:33] And you can get you put to a side on that press.
[1:08:38] The symptoms of the breaks out.
[1:08:39] Where is the bridge?
[1:08:40] We're not used to resilient.
[1:08:41] And that bridge as people mentioned the bridge.
[1:08:43] Not being there would cause a lot of issues.
[1:08:47] Yes.
[1:08:47] By continuing is that it was not being raised for feed anymore.
[1:08:52] That the south side was being raised 18 inches.
[1:08:55] And the other side because of how it slopes is being raised for feed.
[1:08:58] Is that correct?
[1:08:59] So the forefeet is just right at the high point rate at the bridge. As soon as you're off the bridge, it's tapering that down.
[1:09:10] So it goes with forefeet to, as you just differ them for the way, you're raising it less at the, I think what you're referring to is that where it curves right near the artist shaft,
[1:09:24] it will be
[1:09:26] The south side of the roadway will be slightly higher because the existing roadway is the same way the road is super elevated.
[1:09:34] So instead of having a crown that looks like this where water drains all directions.
[1:09:39] Something that's done in roadway design is when you're on a curve to make it safer.
[1:09:44] Instead of road pitching both directions it pitches one direction.
[1:09:49] And that just helps with vehicle handling through a curve.
[1:09:51] And so, the existing road on that curve is all pitched to the north and to match into the roadway and to maintain that design to the curve, the proposed new roadway will have that super donation through there as well.
[1:10:08] So the road will on the south side will be raised for feet from where the road is today, not 18 inches on the south side.
[1:10:15] Right at the bridge, yes.
[1:10:18] So right at the artist's shack, it's going to be forfeet.
[1:10:21] By the artist's shack deck, I believe it's down,
[1:10:25] that's right around three feet, a little under three feet.
[1:10:30] One other question about funding as the coming.
[1:10:34] As the bottom of this new incline,
[1:10:37] I thought the new drainage put into the handle,
[1:10:40] but additional potential for our coming down the incline.
[1:10:49] The answer is that what we would typically recommend for a design like this would not be to install closed drainage, break there for that.
[1:11:00] The reason for that being is usually to install closed drainage like that, you need curving along a portion of road.
[1:11:07] And the reason for that is the water is going to run off the side of the road, faster than it runs down.
[1:11:15] And the water is going to run down the road.
[1:11:18] And so with this cross section that's being shown through this new construct area,
[1:11:28] the intens is the water is going to shed off the sides of the road.
[1:11:31] seen as it is now, only it should be somewhere near it,
[1:11:34] it should, it will shed better, because it's not in this constructed area.
[1:11:39] It's not going to be pooling in the shoulders.
[1:11:40] It'll be draining all the off the edge for sure.
[1:11:42] So we want to have a pooling problem in front of time, why not let it?
[1:11:46] Correct.
[1:11:47] But it will be a good proof.
[1:11:49] Yeah.
[1:11:49] I personally think that this project
[1:11:52] are going to be put up for a couple of years.
[1:11:55] Yeah, they will.
[1:12:00] They have improved their view of answers, right?
[1:12:02] And I'm totally upset because I don't think a friend in the country will be getting.
[1:12:09] I don't know who's happy about it.
[1:12:12] I think they're supposed to go into the whole thing for a couple of years.
[1:12:21] They get everybody happy.
[1:12:23] And the second one.
[1:12:25] Yeah, I have a question from my brother-in-law,
[1:12:27] who's engineer. He said, why didn't they drop or why don't they drop two free
[1:12:34] fed culpers on Vens of Stone, or three, which would provide war flow to the
[1:12:41] underserved upland wetlands?
[1:12:46] So the reasons for that, I appreciate past one
[1:12:49] a lot. I will write down one because I have to say, I'm Gino Bonner 405, Drace
[1:12:59] Center for Bonner. Thanks, thank you. Putting in close Bonner structures, so like a box
[1:13:06] culvert, where the string bed can't adjust over time is typically not ideal for any
[1:13:14] types of crossings, this crossing spans the stream and the stream channel can adjust as needed
[1:13:21] over time. If you were to put in box culverts and there's an erosion event, you can be left
[1:13:27] with a culvert where the water is water falling out at the end and that has a lot of detrimental
[1:13:32] effects bolt to the function of it as well as wildlife. So, and additionally, why would proposed
[1:13:42] single span as opposed to two or three small spans. Those typically will result in
[1:13:50] significant maintenance issues in terms of clogging, especially around marsh areas like this
[1:13:55] for there can be a lot of debris in wooded areas when I get flushed out. When you have those two
[1:14:01] obstructions in the middle of three openings, it'll be as it vulnerable to clogging. And once they clogged
[1:14:08] that cost serious damage. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm back on a more of a comment
[1:14:16] that a question. People do walk to Drace Island. If I'm headed with you, I am on the right
[1:14:22] hand side. They come down now. They're going to have to cross the sweet to use the pedestrian
[1:14:30] access down. See, the shoulder mix. And now I have to cross the street and then go up
[1:14:38] this is inclined to cross the bridge and if they choose to cross back over,
[1:14:42] because my point of this is that this is, you know, 155 feet in the side,
[1:14:47] you know, need some kind of a crosswalk mechanism or warning. You don't want to do that right
[1:14:54] to break, because one of that is, I think, a significant difference, distance.
[1:15:00] On the bridge, I'm walking, I say, hey, I got a crossover, whether we're on my bike or if I'm walking. So I get on to this joke, a lot of crossover down, and then maybe go on to get the sides of that, more of an input situation. So in the design, you provide for a cross one, you know, that just an idea.
[1:15:24] Yes, there's one of that a little bit. So I mean, in the short term, there's a, there'll be a, what is intended to be the solution for foot to fight the steering lane on both sides of their both sides.
[1:15:38] Yes, yes, on on both sides is a four foot shoulder or vice and pedestrians that the current bridge doesn't have.
[1:15:46] right. That'll be on both sides. If the town were to add a sidewalk on Drake's island later,
[1:15:55] and off the bridge, it was on the south side of the road, making sure the connecting between
[1:16:03] the sidewalk on the south side of the roadway, and to this space that's been left to the sidewalk,
[1:16:08] we wouldn't even be handled this part of that project. It was actually a look to be using space
[1:16:12] race to side one. It's both, right? So a year now, if I'm walking down a great side
[1:16:20] of the road and headed to, you know, whether I said, I could stay on the right side of the road,
[1:16:28] you know, cross over, not be in the travel, not be in the vehicle travel. Or I'd
[1:16:35] across over a little bit more space.
[1:16:39] Yep.
[1:16:40] If you have to do the show,
[1:16:41] we're off this thing, but I hope you
[1:16:42] across the picture.
[1:16:43] Yeah, I see kind of maybe where you're coming now
[1:16:46] on the right hand side as an picture.
[1:16:48] It doesn't call out before foot shoulder on the right side.
[1:16:52] But the difference between that 10 and 14,
[1:16:55] that space there is a four foot shoulder
[1:16:57] that mirrors the one you're seeing on the left side.
[1:17:00] So yes, you'll be able to walk down on the left side.
[1:17:02] My cross, I don't have enough cross.
[1:17:04] There's one request, you'd be in a four foot cave lane and frost the bridge and then once that rush bury ends you can be back into the kind of existing conditions.
[1:17:11] I need to take that up.
[1:17:13] No worries.
[1:17:16] Any online questions?
[1:17:19] I don't believe you.
[1:17:21] I'm here everybody.
[1:17:23] For a minute.
[1:17:27] You did.
[1:17:29] professionally, probably getting some of you a bit of this drug and shot it and be some of you know
[1:17:36] that. I mean,
[1:17:40] when seeing it more and more of the last, they used to be very low construction
[1:17:45] down over the winter and 15 years ago. Whatever's changing, the construction environment, we see
[1:17:51] more and more contractors trying to fill projects through the winter.
[1:19:40] One is a state funding and some
[1:19:42] will match up 10%, and probably at 30 or 40 million dollar project that we have sidewalks on both sides,
[1:19:49] and bring one, but they're heading on clients in the event. And I reconfiguration of many
[1:19:55] intersecting, I'm in our wish lines yet, but that's all of the design stage now. We've seen surveyors
[1:20:01] on all last winter. I think we'll see something probably coming for a concept design over the next few
[1:20:07] much.
[1:20:13] So that time what they get better
[1:20:15] happens in the time when they respond to it.
[1:20:17] Well, hello, wait, there's a missing segment here.
[1:20:20] A very exciting road, you know, all to the bridge.
[1:20:23] But that's everyone. Yeah, but I don't think I'll be here for that.
[1:20:28] Thank you, thank you, thank you,
[1:20:33] thank you.
[1:20:33] All right, we appreciate my time. Thank you.
[1:20:35] I appreciate your question. Thank you.
[1:20:39] and then they're on the side of the city.
[1:20:44] I think I've got to go.
[1:20:46] I think I've got to go.
[1:20:46] I think I've got to go.