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[0:00] One person in his town, if you say yes or no, they're not going to care. Nobody would even know.
[0:09] But I know I got, you know, you have rules and guidelines in place for a reason, but I was sent here.
[0:16] The zoning board there only issue was kind of fire truck. Get down and turn around and anyone else.
[0:24] I had the fire chief at the house this morning and he's completely okay with, you know, my four
[0:31] acres, I just cleared down bottom that he can turn around on and, again, I know it's,
[0:39] I'm a builder,
[0:40] but I'm not familiar with, like, coal the sats and stuff like that, like I know that you're supposed
[0:45] to have a coal the sack at the end or you got to have some way to turn around blah blah blah, but
[0:52] I'm Wethes, I mean, I'm a half a mile in the woods and all the houses would be down at that end.
[1:00] I'm just looking maybe we can come up with something that would allow me to do that and share it with my family.
[1:08] That's all for some guidance and hopefully we can come up with something.
[1:16] So to just clarify on the ZBA aspect of it, you were there.
[1:21] they referred you here in order for a few minutes of that meeting.
[1:26] As I sound like they're asking us to look at the length of the road and access to the property.
[1:37] And you did acknowledge some of the code pieces of our code that as it stands currently restrict what you're able to do.
[1:51] So just to kind of bring everybody up to up to speed on those items.
[2:01] So currently in the Sanchez pros and having the two lots on off of your driveway, they front on a private driveway.
[2:08] So the definition of a lot in our code section 250-199.
[2:13] So the lot must have its principle frontage on a public street, or officially approved place.
[2:18] And it's front line must have joined a public or private road right away, as opposed to a private driveway.
[2:28] Then the subdivision section 225-19 notes that, you know, subdividing land is shall be to provide each lot with frontage on an approved street and with satisfactory access to an existing public street.
[2:42] So, again, it does not mention a private driveway, and then you talked about the turnaround
[2:49] cold-a-sac.
[2:53] So there are, you know, if we're to go with a private road route, there's, obviously, standards
[2:59] in the code that need to be met, which may be cost prohibitive, you know, but they are
[3:07] in the code, it does say that call this act streets.
[3:12] So not be longer than 750 feet and be provided with a closed end to me.
[3:18] The closed end with a turnaround, and then it talks about 60 feet, diameter,
[3:25] and dead end
[3:25] streets.
[3:26] So not be permitted except as provided here in.
[3:29] So, you know, in terms of the ZBA's request to us, you know, basically those two lots appear to be about
[3:40] 2000 feet down the driveway, which is beyond what the 750 feet stipulates in the code.
[3:49] Now granted there are areas around the town that are certainly, you know, private, private ways
[3:55] longer and, you know, I can't speak to whatever they were, they were approved in or built,
[4:04] you know, today's code standard lay out these things.
[4:10] So, look, from the look of it, you know, it does not permit lots currently on a private driveway.
[4:18] If you were to switch and try to do a private road, and it runs into the coldest act issue.
[4:28] So I think really that's kind of the summary for the ZBA's request to us, clarify,
[4:39] you know, put the lot requirement, the distance requirements,
[4:43] But other board members have questions, you know, feel free to just note in for the record that Board Member Thore has refused on this matter.
[4:55] He's in fact sitting in the audience off of the board table.
[5:07] Yeah, so I mean to respond to the ZBA, I think, hopefully highlighting those sections of the code.
[5:15] is kind of the response, I mean as a good step to have talked to the fire chief, I would say
[5:21] if you get something in writing from him to provide to the ZBA that may be beneficial.
[5:29] And then we can kind of see where they want to go from there, but that like you would
[5:36] know, those are the sections of code where currently the application kind of gets tripped up.
[5:42] So I would talk with the code enforcement officer, too.
[5:45] She'll be, you know, as well, right?
[5:49] Which 10 was there as well, this morning?
[5:51] Does I know that Crystal's got some problems,
[5:54] or whatever, don't want to.
[5:59] We may not be able to guide you totally here,
[6:02] but, and I'm just, you know, for one-on-gathering here,
[6:05] I'm going to go back to zoning.
[6:07] They're going to have to give me something to try to think
[6:11] and I'm going back with it, you know, to them as far as, as probably going to be set of
[6:19] advantage, you know, because, um, 2,000 feet to, you know, and I think so what, what I'll do,
[6:27] I'll instruct the Valerie to kind of pass along the summary of our, my, our feedback to the
[6:34] ZBA so that they're aware, because they were asking for clarification on the, on the
[6:42] re-huddled with the building department at this point.
[6:47] Mr. Sanchez, I understand that you're going to be, this application, you're still
[6:55] filth, you know, seeing how you're going to, you're going to, you're going to, you're going
[6:59] to see.
[7:00] I would, I would just recommend that we just pass a resolution here, not denying it, just
[7:06] saying that we all agree that it's incomplete at this time.
[7:11] That agreed Mr. Sanchez, and maybe the board should do that, and then Valerie can let
[7:18] Crystal know the extent of the conversation today, as we know Crystal has been attending
[7:23] to a significant family matter the last several days, and she can bring her up to speed on.
[7:32] All right, I'll make a motion to deem this application incomplete at this time. Second, thank you very much.
[7:43] Thank you very much.
[7:48] We're not done.
[7:54] Thanks,
[8:01] Dan.
[8:01] All right, have any resolutions?
[8:06] Meeting minutes,
[8:15] question about the meeting minutes for the last time.
[8:16] I'll move the minutes as presented for July 15th, 2026.
[8:20] Thank you.
[8:21] Good bye, Jenny.
[8:22] All in favour?
[8:23] I'll make a motion to adjourn at 9.27 p.a.
[8:27] Second, thank you, my art, all in favour?
[8:29] Bye.