[0:01] Call over this meeting in landmarks board, August 17, 2026. First time in the agenda, call the roll, please, Taylor.

[0:08] Steve Martin, President, Joe Ryan, the shell-bikey, Dave Settle,

[0:14] Laura Shadow, Michael Galba, President, we have a quorum.

[0:18] Thank you. Next, I have the pledge of allegiance. If you remove your hats and please stand.

[0:42] Next, we have the items of the contingent. We have two items that will vote on collectively together

[0:47] if not removed for discussion.

[0:49] The first is 17 north-fist street,

[0:51] renewal by Anderson.

[0:53] Second of all, the consent agenda is

[0:55] 1-1-6 north-mainth street,

[0:57] Cory Brinniman, if I'm pronounced that correctly.

[1:01] Does anyone want to ask questions about these?

[1:04] Seeing that, I'll take a motion on the consent agenda.

[1:07] Motion to approve of the consent agenda as submitted.

[1:12] Second, motion is main second,

[1:13] all in favor indicate by saying aye.

[1:15] All right, if you're one of the two,

[1:16] I just call. We had no questions, no concerns. You can follow up with C staff later to see if they have anything to discuss with you.

[1:23] Next, I have sign permits, applications. We only have one.

[1:27] 822 South Main Street by Cindy.

[1:30] Eisenbeis.

[1:30] Am I even close?

[1:33] I'll thank you. Please come up.

[1:38] Yes, ma'am.

[1:39] Thank you.

[1:40] All right.

[1:40] So I tell the first person that they're going to be the guinea pig because everyone in this room is going to be asked this question.

[1:46] I'm going to ask you.

[1:47] did you have a chance to read the staff's comments and recommendations anything you

[1:52] dispute or want a question or point out to us okay thank you all right tell us

[1:56] real quickly about your application we're opening up a dog treat store where

[2:02] there used to be one two was there for 20 years I'm using the same design same

[2:08] size same hardware everything so for my sign the only thing there'll be

[2:17] And we understand that.

[2:19] Anyone have on the panel here have questions about it?

[2:21] Anyone the audience want to ask a question about 822 South Main Street?

[2:26] Pleasure of the Board.

[2:30] I'll make a motion to approve the new projecting sign for the business at Yadis Yamis

[2:34] at 822 South Main Street.

[2:36] Subject to the Conditions Recommended by staff.

[2:41] All of favor indicated by saying aye.

[2:43] Aye.

[2:44] You have already announced consent.

[2:45] Good luck with it.

[2:46] All right, thank you.

[2:47] You're welcome.

[2:48] Next, we're going to go to structure reviews. We have more of those. Tonight, we're going to,

[2:52] first of all, what we're going to do is 914 North-Fist Street by Eric Vaughn,

[3:02] being Mr. Vaughn.

[3:03] What are we doing? I'm peachy. How about yourself?

[3:06] Nothing but sunshine.

[3:07] All right. Good.

[3:08] Is this the new, you're tackling this one after finishing the sixth street one over there?

[3:13] Yeah, I'm coming in a little nicer, I don't know.

[3:16] I don't know. It's turned off pretty good, isn't it?

[3:18] It looks rough. No, that one turned out fantastic. Absolutely.

[3:21] Yeah,

[3:25] the porch is going to be redone, exactly as it is, a little bit different material

[3:31] on the decking, having the railings rebuild exactly the same way, I've conceded to just

[3:41] do it at all white.

[3:45] Thank you.

[3:47] And you saw the staff's comments?

[3:50] All right.

[3:50] Do we have questions about this application?

[3:55] I think I'm in agreement on everything, but I'm not sure about the shutter situation on the side kitchen windows.

[4:07] So the window was one that staff wanted us to talk about.

[4:12] So I'll just throw this out there because we had to do this at my house, not that it's a perfect example.

[4:18] But we have, you know, the tall windows wanted to move kitchen cabinets right in front of the windows.

[4:26] We just ran the cabinets as we wanted to, and then on the backside of the cabinets,

[4:31] basically put kind of a privacy panel on the back of it and painted it kind of a tan color.

[4:37] So you don't see it.

[4:39] I mean, the cabinets are where they are.

[4:41] The window stays the size that it is.

[4:43] And that's what I'd have to do if that's what I can get.

[4:49] Yeah, I don't know if looking for the window and seeing the back of, uh, you, I mean,

[4:54] as long as you put a nice panel that's like painted nicely and you're not just seeing the

[5:01] raw plywood of the back of a cabinet, we've, we've done it often with like a blackout film,

[5:08] so looking through the window, you see black, that'd be a very inexpensive way to handle

[5:13] So I think what Mickey is saying, you know, the only, I'm not sure what your interior layout is and I realize this is part of why you're doing it and totally makes sense.

[5:23] But I think a way of kind of keeping the original history of the home, but also allowing it to function for today is probably going to look better overall, but still give you what you need on the interior.

[5:36] So I don't know if that's just a counter height surface you're going in with but they could

[5:42] essentially construct or you I guess maybe could construct something blocking that window

[5:48] from the interior. Yeah that's that's plan B for sure. I'm okay with it.

[5:58] So and then the

[6:01] I guess the rezoning is not part of this right now. Correct.

[6:06] My only other just quick question on the gutters for you was with the existing trim.

[6:15] Is that going to remain white? It's like fascia.

[6:19] There's no fascia on it. The gutters are directed on the brick.

[6:24] Okay. I was just a little bit worried. It's going to very, especially with the porch saying white.

[6:32] It's very much going to stand out and look very modern in that environment.

[6:37] So I think that's probably why I was previously a color that kind of blended in with the brick.

[6:48] I do think with your darker roof, like at least it's tying into that.

[6:52] But I do kind of feel like it's going to feel very modern and aesthetic.

[6:57] Once you do that, to just something to consider.

[7:07] I'll go with our comments that the issue of new gutter downspouts is a very modern kind of a touch.

[7:14] If you can blend them into the background or whatever the building is, they don't stand out.

[7:20] You're not framing it like a picture frame with a different color, if you know what I'm saying.

[7:25] And so if you can find some color like that, I'm going to propose that we go ahead and prove each night with the understanding you'll call the staff and make sure that what you're putting up there will be consistent.

[7:39] Is that okay with you?

[7:41] Because you just said you were agreeable to our last comment on this one.

[7:44] If you're agreeing that you'll check in with them on the color choice because we're just pointing out to you that that's a nice building.

[7:50] I mean, you've got to, and you've done it very well before, we're just trying to make sure

[7:55] this one comes out looking as good.

[7:57] Are you, I just want some clarity for myself.

[8:02] So you think on the front porch area that that should be more white, and then on the house,

[8:10] have the house, just down here.

[8:14] So you're just talking about the downspout.

[8:16] Someone else, yeah, what was that?

[8:18] Not the, yeah.

[8:19] But Taylor, do you have the photos that are in our packet?

[8:22] There's an example where he's colored one in and we can kind of talk about it while it's on the screen.

[8:27] I think it's right here.

[8:29] I have it pulled up.

[8:32] It is hard to see on this.

[8:34] Yeah.

[8:34] So it's a little easier to see on here.

[8:40] So one of the requests was changing the gutter color from the brick to the.

[8:46] Yeah, so I think right now what they have done is they've painted the ones on the brick to match the brick.

[8:52] And then the ones on the porch are white.

[8:54] Is that correct?

[8:56] Yes.

[8:57] But you're obviously not wanting to paint gutters.

[9:00] That makes sense.

[9:01] No, yeah, so I'm not sure what kind of colors

[9:03] are available to match that brick.

[9:05] Yeah, there might be a bronze or something

[9:07] that is a standard color that just kind of blends in a little bit.

[9:13] Bronze that might blend in a little better.

[9:14] But I guess what I'm trying to go back and revisit,

[9:17] you're thinking that on the painted porch part,

[9:21] that shouldn't match the same as the house to make it blend in.

[9:27] Are you wanting to change the color of the downstout?

[9:29] No, they're suggesting, and I think I'm commenting on,

[9:33] is that to put this white stripe down the outside,

[9:37] it jumps out at you as like you're framing it this way,

[9:41] and it's not the one here that's the issue,

[9:43] it's the ones out here that are the issue.

[9:45] This would actually blend in, so that would be white blends here,

[9:48] but it doesn't blend here.

[9:49] Right.

[9:50] But he's proposing black and overall do is bronze a more preferred tone for the project.

[10:06] I just think black given everything else that there feels like a very modern touch like you're drawing attention to it as like an accessory instead of just letting it be there for functional purposes.

[10:18] Trying to I'm trying to match the you know front doors and the shutters. I'm just I don't

[10:24] Would I don't know if changing the color on the house and changing the color on the porch?

[10:29] They're not changing the color of the porch or the house. You're just talking about how it's being framed by the gutters

[10:35] No, I'm aware of that. Yeah, so she's saying it's saying it's saying that you're saying that you wanted to blend in that means that you would want this white

[10:41] but then

[10:43] do this

[10:48] I think that that would aesthetically look more pleasing. I just wanted clarity for my voice.

[10:55] So two separate color gunners.

[10:58] Yeah. And I do think just given the way it's laid out on the house.

[11:02] I know it sounds very strange, but.

[11:04] No, it doesn't. I would kind of almost disappear.

[11:08] So same thing on the back porch got a white.

[11:12] Yeah.

[11:16] So I don't have a problem with that if I can I tell you what if we run through the snanker

[11:22] I don't want to slow your project down. Can you visit with the city about finding

[11:27] I personally am not a fan of painting the gutters. Okay, I just don't think that's going to work for you

[11:32] It's going to be a constant maintenance issue. I don't think it'll work. All right, but you can buy him. I've seen color coded

[11:39] You know, once you can get they'll come out and make them at the site and see if you can find one

[11:45] a work and talk to the city about it and keep this house it's very historic look, okay?

[11:51] That work for you?

[11:52] That works.

[11:53] All right.

[11:54] Anything else from the staff?

[11:58] Anyone want to comment on this from the audience?

[12:00] Want to comment on this property at 914 North District?

[12:04] Can I ask one more question before we need the motion?

[12:07] Are we saying anything regarding the driveway or is that strictly engineering?

[12:12] It's strictly engineering.

[12:13] Perfect.

[12:14] Just want to make sure we were.

[12:15] Just stay for reference.

[12:17] Check in all boxes.

[12:20] All right.

[12:20] What's the pleasure of the board?

[12:41] Trying to figure out how to say it.

[12:44] Motion to approve the exterior alterations to the dwelling at 914 North District.

[12:51] I'm just not sure how to.

[12:55] With the understanding that you will visit a staff on the gutter colors for front and back and porch.

[13:04] Yep.

[13:05] Just go through Taylor around that.

[13:07] Yes.

[13:07] I think you need the throw in.

[13:09] I need the subject to the other conditions recommended.

[13:13] And subject to the conditions recommended by staff.

[13:18] All right, now take a second.

[13:20] Motion made second.

[13:21] I'll favor the case by saying aye.

[13:22] Aye.

[13:23] Opposed.

[13:24] All right.

[13:25] You have a yes.

[13:25] Good luck with it.

[13:27] All right.

[13:27] We look forward to seeing you next project.

[13:30] All right.

[13:32] Next I have.

[13:33] 728 Tom Constreet with by Zach Welch.

[13:43] I assume that's your client back there.

[13:45] Yes, I'm not Zach Welch.

[13:47] It's a Nike.

[13:47] He's doing a little health architecture.

[13:52] So we are proposing a new front porch for the property

[13:57] of 728 Tom Constreet that was mitted in the packet.

[14:04] The railings will be a white vinyl railing

[14:08] Um, that is similar to others that have been approved has a slightly rounded top to it and a little bit more substantial vertical packets.

[14:20] Uh, the decking will be a composite tongue in groove. Um, product that also has been approved various times before.

[14:31] Anyway, but.

[14:32] Thank you. Questions for the panel.

[14:34] It's going to be real cute.

[14:40] Even in the audience want to comment on 720-8-time constraint,

[14:47] all right, Mickey stepped away

[14:48] from the panel.

[14:50] I'd take a motion from somebody.

[14:53] Motion to approve the construction of a new front porch and stairs on the front of the

[14:57] dwelling at 720-8-time.

[15:03] All right, I'll look at the second alarm, it was close call. All right, all in favor of indicate by saying aye, aye, opposed?

[15:11] Have you announced approval and that we know you're abstaining? Thank you.

[15:15] Next item on the agenda is 1211 North Forest Street with Brent Roode.

[15:25] He's coming up.

[15:30] We're going to name sometimes for some reason.

[15:35] So I see you brought help.

[15:37] Yep.

[15:37] No problems.

[15:38] Perfect.

[15:39] Someone on this panel comment.

[15:40] You removed your sons half for the pledge of allegiance.

[15:43] He wasn't happy.

[15:44] All right.

[15:45] So.

[15:45] Do you know what the first question is?

[15:49] I did not.

[15:49] You have a chance to go through the staff's recommendations comments.

[15:52] Anything you want to challenge or question or ask about?

[15:55] All right.

[15:56] Let's turn it over to panel.

[15:59] It looks nice.

[16:01] Anybody?

[16:03] All right.

[16:03] Anyone's the audience want to speak on 12-1 North 4th Street?

[16:09] We have no comments.

[16:10] I'll take a motion, please.

[16:12] Motion to approve the construction of a pergola addition

[16:15] to the rear of the structure at 12-1 North 4th Street as a middle.

[16:21] Motion to make the second and all favor indicate by saying aye.

[16:24] Aye.

[16:25] Opposed?

[16:26] Sir, you have an answer, approval.

[16:28] You have to put your little crew to work for you.

[16:31] the agenda.

[16:32] The next item on the agenda, 601 North King's Highway.

[16:36] I do not see Mr. Hollander.

[16:40] You're filling in for him?

[16:43] And you are?

[16:44] Jeff, what?

[16:46] Oh, I just didn't.

[16:48] I'm sorry.

[16:48] It took me a minute.

[16:49] I just, I'm not recognizing that.

[16:51] I'm not recognizing that.

[16:52] I'm not recognizing that.

[16:54] Well, he doesn't need to say it in the microphone.

[16:56] But honestly, I just didn't recognize him as he walked up.

[16:59] All right, Jeff tells us about the application six of one of the King's Highway, do you see the staff's comments?

[17:05] We did concerns questions?

[17:07] Nope, all right, quick summary force.

[17:10] They're just looking to basically remove and demolish their existing detached garage back there to expand the commercial print operations of the building by the new office in slash warehouse in the as proposed.

[17:25] Got it?

[17:27] Any questions for the panel?

[17:30] Anything will look better than before that's like.

[17:33] All right.

[17:34] So we have to go through it to set process.

[17:39] The first of course is whether we find anything

[17:41] of it to be historic.

[17:44] I'll take a motion on that first.

[17:46] Motion to find the subject to detached garage

[17:49] in the rear of 601 North King's highway

[17:52] to be historically significant.

[17:57] I need a second.

[18:00] Motion to make a second.

[18:01] I didn't ask him if the audience want to have a comment on this before I'd go the next step, which is 6 to 1 note King's Highway.

[18:08] All right, let's take a motion of historical significance. All people who find that it is historical significance, say aye.

[18:15] All who believe it's not historical significance, say no.

[18:19] All right, so you have a unanimous no on the historical significance. We won't move on to the rest of it, okay?

[18:23] Okay, thank you.

[18:27] Now you have another one that here we go.

[18:28] It is SP-2026-21.

[18:35] All right, same question you've seen that staff's comments, concerns of actions.

[18:41] Yep. Okay.

[18:41] All right, how about from the panel?

[18:46] I think it looks like it's going to blend in with what's there now,

[18:51] and probably give them a lot better functionality.

[18:58] Anything else?

[19:00] Applicants for the construction at 601 North King's Highway.

[19:06] Anybody out there?

[19:07] All right. Let's take a motion. Motion to approve the construction of a new addition at 601 North King's Highway, subject to the conditions recommended by staff.

[19:18] Second. Motion made second all in favor indicate by saying aye.

[19:21] Aye. Opposed.

[19:24] Sir, you have already name is vote. All right. Good luck with it. Tell Steve Hollander that you did a great job.

[19:30] tough but you've managed. All right, next I have 13 to 12

[19:35] north-second street.

[19:42] Mr Robinson.

[19:46] All right, you heard my

[19:46] question. I know you came in a little late. Did you hear my

[19:48] question? You just each applicant? Yes, do I prove everything

[19:53] that your guys recommendation? Yes, yes, I do with that.

[19:57] Okay. All right, questions from this panel?

[20:02] Now I agree with staff.

[20:04] I mean, it's very minimal you visible. I think it is a modern

[20:07] in appearance, but it doesn't, there's nothing on this building that says, oh, we're in

[20:16] modern structure wouldn't blend in, so I think it looks good.

[20:21] Anything else?

[20:22] All right, question for anyone from this panelists, give me from the audience about 1312

[20:28] North Second Street.

[20:29] Anybody?

[20:31] All right, here we go, I'll take a motion.

[20:34] The new accessory structure located at the rear of 1-3-1-2 north-second street has submitted.

[20:42] Second.

[20:43] Motion made second at all in favor indicated by saying aye.

[20:47] Opposed?

[20:48] You have our nearest rule.

[20:50] Keep in mind.

[20:51] Thank you.

[20:51] All right.

[20:53] Next, we have 1219 South Main Street.

[20:57] By John Donley.

[21:00] I drove by your place this week with the heat warnings.

[21:03] It looked empty.

[21:03] Yes, it was super hot out this way. It was it was a 168x plus

[21:10] All right, you know the first question. Yes, everything okay. Yes, all right

[21:15] Let's turn to the staff. I'll just go into the panel here on the site

[21:20] Retaining well material same as what's already there same is what's in the parking lot area

[21:25] It's gonna be the the eight inch block. Okay, and then same color. Yeah, same color

[21:31] Are you gonna try it? Oh, we in-scape then also to help the erosion or so we do have a landscape

[21:36] plan with landscape architect come out, so we have new trees going in, shrubs, a lot of

[21:41] different things.

[21:41] Hopefully it'll stop the hill from coming into the parking lot.

[21:57] Yes.

[21:57] I'm waiting for a seat for any other questions.

[22:01] All right, first, any audience member, if you're the left, have any comment on 12-19 South

[22:07] Main Street?

[22:09] All right, let's do a motion.

[22:11] Motion to approve the exterior, interior, site lighting, and the construction of the

[22:17] of a new three-foot retaining wall for the property

[22:19] at 1-219 South Main Street.

[22:23] Second.

[22:26] All right, most of the main second,

[22:27] I'll favor indicate by saying aye.

[22:29] Aye.

[22:29] Opposed?

[22:30] You got it.

[22:31] Thank you.

[22:32] You're welcome.

[22:33] Have a good night, guys.

[22:34] Thank you.

[22:35] All right, that concludes the projects.

[22:38] We now have 531, Mon, Rose, Street, Mimo.

[22:43] Yeah, just to check out three times best.

[22:44] Go ahead.

[22:45] Just an update for the board.

[22:46] The community development department did approve a building permit for a temporary wheelchair ramp on 531 Monroe.

[22:54] The homeowner was unable to leave or come to their home with the accessibility issues.

[23:02] It's estimated to be there for about three months, so it was conditioned in the building permit that it once it's put in.

[23:09] That'll start the three months clock for them.

[23:11] if it's not removed within that time or ask for an extension, it will come before the board

[23:15] due to the fact that it is in the mid-town neighborhood, it's a contributing property.

[23:20] Fair enough. I'd take it. There was some emergency in the sense of creating it.

[23:25] They had a surgery.

[23:28] All right, a reports from the staff, I don't think from staff, all right. How about we talk about

[23:34] approval of the minutes of July 20, 2026, anyone want to make changes?

[23:42] Motion to approve the minutes from the July 20th, 2026 meeting as submitted.

[23:49] Second, motion is being segmented all favoring to Kate by saying aye.

[23:52] Aye.

[23:53] Opposed?

[23:53] Have it.

[23:54] All right.

[23:55] Next, I need a motion to adjourn.

[23:57] Motion to adjourn.

[23:59] Second.

[24:00] All right.

Landmarks Board Meeting, August 17, 2026

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