[0:20] Excuse me as the Council's consent agenda contract, if there's a discussion?

[0:25] All right, and I'm having a question on the consent agenda.

[0:28] Next slide.

[0:29] Item 4 and 5. 4 is the public hearing on the short term,

[0:33] gringo, ordinance, and you'll see us put in a four year of substitute,

[0:38] it says, 1826.

[0:42] You're in a president, Mr. Mitchell?

[0:44] I have been giving a, oh, my emails have been flooded about this sort of

[0:52] I have never received as many phone calls as I have on this in any other ordinance that we have paid for in the last, when I say phone calls, emails, text messages.

[1:05] I don't know what it is about. This short term that they do not like, but I have been, I mean, our long conversations about this ordinance that we are looking at passing Mr. President.

[1:16] So I guess we can have a in-depth conversation in the regular meeting, but I just want to make sure

[1:22] or ask anybody else that they receive those same type.

[1:26] Well, Mr. Mitchell, excuse me, Mr. President, Mr. Mitchell, I attended a meeting with about

[1:31] 35 of the last Thursday night.

[1:33] I've told them I'd be there 10 or 15 minutes.

[1:35] I don't have 15 minutes later.

[1:36] I was still asking questions.

[1:39] Answered questions, excuse me.

[1:42] Some of them don't business losses, and I told them they're going to have a business

[1:46] and so some of them are just incredibly unreasonable demands, very very much, and some of them are reasonable.

[1:54] And so I agree with you, they want a more time and I explain to them they already had two weeks.

[2:01] We've put it over the last time, so I think you got a legal counsel out here in the audience, but you know, I don't think we don't,

[2:10] let me long story short, we're not gonna make them all happy. They're not gonna all be happy.

[2:13] No, no, that's pretty much right Mr. Omino. I mean, I think that's exactly where we're at after 10 or 11 months going over this and then actually taking what was a bit of a pride and kind of trailblazing type ordinance and then honing it in taking information from other municipalities

[2:34] I had a meeting with a group of folks yesterday about 18 people who generally were opposed to the ideas of short terms of their neighborhoods and were happy with the changes and amendments that we've made.

[2:46] I know that Airbnb's folks and their local representatives have been consulted. I know attorney had has been fielding.

[2:54] I don't know how many millions of conversations emails phone calls, but what I think is important now is that we've got an ordinance that will help us manage

[3:02] and govern and regulate short-term rentals.

[3:07] And yes, there are going to be some components of this,

[3:10] that are going to be a little bit, you know,

[3:12] that's going to be a little bit of confusion right off the bat.

[3:14] And there's going to be some processes that will have to get

[3:16] hung in on.

[3:17] But overall we're providing for citizens of my government.

[3:22] The ability for the city to make sure that we have safe structures

[3:27] people stay and that we have things in place that allow us to shut down locations on a property

[3:36] but property basis. We have those kind of problems in keeping in mind that we already

[3:41] Airbnb and other companies that are partners that want to see this industry healthy here in my

[3:48] memory. There are a lot of Airbnb operators in my district where they are providing two, four,

[3:56] six eight week rentals to people in the military because we don't have enough extended apartment

[4:01] or condo or whatever hotel housing and so I didn't mean we've done maybe the longest

[4:07] amount of work I've spent on an ordinance to get us to where we are today and I think

[4:11] you know there may be some things that pop up but I think we take this step and then we move

[4:16] forward and then it's our job as a council here and come back to if we think there's something

[4:21] to be refined. Thank you Mr. mentioned.

[4:26] You know, why don't you?

[4:26] Mr. Cameron. Mr. Prude.

[4:28] The question for Mr. Samanski.

[4:30] Is we all are business license and making changes to one of the mental problems?

[4:36] What do we do?

[4:37] What's the same thing as if you were, if you pulled my business license and I continue to operate as well?

[4:43] I mean, you know, we have a revenue department we have.

[4:46] License enforcement can provide cease and cease.

[4:49] We can work with the attorneys at the city.

[4:51] I don't know if Attorney Head has any comments on this, but, you know, I see the whole point of

[4:55] us granting these licenses as the count is ability to remove something from somebody.

[5:01] As I said, on the case of the case, probably by primary basis, the same way we went with

[5:04] the bad business in our districts.

[5:05] We have removed them from numerous, apart from our workers, and they can need not wear them.

[5:13] So, what's the, why is this, why is this going to work?

[5:20] Mr. President, let me just grant giving my thoughts.

[5:24] Glenn, one thing, the Department of Complex is if we shut them down, we're going to put people in the street that can't go anywhere else.

[5:32] Airbnb's are to people that have come into town and we can't away.

[5:35] So we shut them down, we're not putting anybody in the street, which would make that a little bit easier.

[5:40] We shut down the Department of Complex.

[5:42] We're literally leaving people that can't afford to go anywhere else and put them in the street.

[5:46] That's difficult.

[5:47] I think this is a little bit easier than that.

[5:50] One other thing that everybody had to complain, if they had multiple, they only want to

[5:54] play one business license, I'm the guy that says, I want to play one for every house, because

[5:58] you have a problem with that house, you pull it a little bit, tickle house.

[6:01] That's what's written.

[6:02] I think that's where we should stay, but that's my opinion.

[6:16] Mr. Heard, well, you guys must have been through this question, and that there's something

[6:19] that the council wants when passed the order is not up to us anymore, that's going to have

[6:23] come to the revenue department to see the staff and how we enforce that.

[6:27] So we'll be able to deal with the additional nation on that for the release.

[6:30] I actually learned that the last council meeting that you can actually

[6:34] hit somebody in handcuffs for failure to get a business license.

[6:39] I didn't know that was where the council wanted to go.

[6:43] But there isn't a rest and we have an enforcement officer

[6:47] and revenue hired specifically to do that.

[6:51] So before you got here, we looked at numerous apartments complexes that were coming for us.

[6:57] Mr. Mitchell, how do you think that we had a ballpark, did not have a business license or didn't even show up?

[7:04] Yeah, we're multiple, and I think we're still in, I think we just went to court.

[7:10] Maybe last Wednesday, I want to say.

[7:14] One day, last week, I think we might have had a hearing, a status hearing on one of the

[7:21] part of the club complex, so we've been dealing with this for a while.

[7:26] I always think, I don't want to raise my hand if we're not able to feel it's just like, if the

[7:30] people that are bad by the law are going to get the license and the people that don't, and

[7:34] they're worried about what I've been doing.

[7:37] Yeah, I don't want to know what I'm getting.

[7:39] If Mr. President, if I may.

[7:40] This measure enables the Council to regulate and get the revenue justified by your regulation and licensing

[7:49] revenues regulation, and by and large the, yes, I've received hundreds of emails and requests from

[7:59] lobbyists from residents who are concerned about the care for the neighborhood being changed and we have addressed all of those in this

[8:07] And this ordinance is primarily for the people who want to provide good services in our city.

[8:15] We'll have to deal with those outliers, but it's my understanding, that's why I'd rather than enforce an officer with the tire by the revenue department.

[8:23] Mr. President, I guess my next question is, if we're addressing the Airbnb's, what about the rental property that individuals have just stayed out of the family?

[8:32] If you have more than two years of consider going, business are we going to make those

[8:36] those landlords that own 2,000 start getting the business license as well in the city of

[8:42] Montgomery.

[8:42] Yes, I already know.

[8:44] Wait, were they not getting business?

[8:45] But they not getting business license in the city of Montgomery?

[8:48] No, they not?

[8:50] They not getting business license.

[8:51] I think we're trying to, we're mixing apples and oranges right here.

[8:55] If we don't force everybody to get a business license, that's something that we need to

[8:58] require to work with.

[9:00] That's our rare environment in the city of Montgomery.

[9:02] They have lots of problems that you're doing business.

[9:05] So we all ran out of that one.

[9:07] That's our problem.

[9:08] Graham, we had that on this way, Lotho.

[9:12] That's our room requirement.

[9:13] At least I asked that years ago.

[9:15] There is, there is a set number once you get over that number.

[9:18] You have to find those in the slides.

[9:20] So never remember this file.

[9:22] Can someone from the business license come up here and so we go?

[9:29] I'm sorry, lots of that question again.

[9:30] I'm wondering.

[9:31] We're asking about landlords, are we making landlords

[9:36] to have multiple properties get business license in the city of Montgomery, because I know

[9:44] multiple landlords that do not have business license, but have multiple properties here

[9:49] in the city of Montgomery, because we don't even know if they who own them or not.

[9:53] So can you tell us how we make an insuring that they're getting business license as well?

[9:58] If they have two or more residential, they have to get a license, but it's only one license

[10:04] and they give us a list of all there, and they pay on total grums.

[10:10] So my question, I guess, my question is, how would you know, if Mr. Charlie Jenner had 10

[10:18] houses, if Mr. Charlie Jenner had then come in and get a business license, how would you

[10:23] know that Mr. Jenner had 10 houses that he's running out?

[10:28] Well, we wouldn't know if he hadn't told us.

[10:36] Mr. Mitchell, some I turned to me and you could do a search on it to count on you.

[10:42] So Charlie had 28 hours and we both have business license, but you're right, unless

[10:46] somebody turns them in, we don't have that.

[10:48] Charlie could have business license.

[10:50] Thank you.

[10:51] Thank you.

[10:52] Okay.

[10:52] Get the business license.

[10:53] All right.

[10:53] Next slide.

[10:54] Thank you.

[10:56] Wait a minute.

[10:57] I just want to thank you.

[10:59] I am a six application for this list license for a two inches seven.

[11:03] Your question is, is it sitting jam convention set or the 30 million reason right?

[11:08] No, man, well, he's wanting to ask, I pulled the audience and put it in your boxes.

[11:14] And, I think Mr. Samassney's going to table it as two weeks while we're working on the changes.

[11:21] Okay, yeah, we're going to be two weeks full week going on the same.

[11:25] We don't need to.

[11:27] We're going to get so it turns out in a way first.

[11:30] I think we'll address that.

[11:32] All right.

[11:33] Next slide.

[11:35] Mr. President.

[11:37] Yes, ma'am.

[11:37] We would just want you to see it, please.

[11:40] Okay.

[11:40] We're going to table number six.

[11:43] And we pull the orders.

[11:45] And it was placed in your box.

[11:46] Minutes of license and fiber for you, Vincent.

[11:48] We're going to address what this issue is because in this

[11:51] one is I see no word like this.

[11:53] I don't remember six that was before the council.

[11:56] There's no word in the one that says that you have to come before the council

[11:59] If you're not requesting a look at license, only thing you stand at business license, did

[12:03] not even based on the two-mile range range that we have, you can appeal it to the city council.

[12:09] And so that's all the things.

[12:10] So we need to address that.

[12:11] So we don't have this company.

[12:12] Okay.

[12:12] Thank you.

[12:13] Thank you.

[12:14] Thank you.

[12:14] May I?

[12:18] Sir.

[12:19] Ms. President.

[12:21] Ms. Mitch.

[12:21] What one question?

[12:23] But I thought we did give the business license the discretion if they needed to send somebody

[12:28] and in front of us the good, it's fit.

[12:32] I don't have the management, the director of that division

[12:36] has the authority to refer it to council.

[12:39] That's not an award, and that's what it does.

[12:41] It's not, because it's in the business license ordinance.

[12:46] President, that's in the short term rental office

[12:48] that ordinance as well.

[12:49] OK.

[12:51] Thank you.

[12:52] We're going to carry that item too.

[12:54] Number seven, review evaluations of Apostolic World

[12:57] on trade, church, and kingdom of every street.

[13:02] Mr. Submission.

[13:05] I like going through everybody's laughing because, you know,

[13:07] we're in where we've got a faith-based organization

[13:09] that's going to force our problem with the facility that we have

[13:12] is not operating as the way that they're supposed to be operating.

[13:15] I've got a list of violations that were sent in by the fire department,

[13:21] including evidence of occupants living and cooking inside the building,

[13:24] which is not approved to design for residential purposes,

[13:26] change the exit doors. Non-functioning a lot. Fire alarm systems, beds, and living quarters

[13:32] are not approved for the building's current occupancy classification, missing a non-service

[13:36] fire extinguishers and no certificate of occupancy, so we get to play. No, no, no, no,

[13:43] you tell me. It is a review, so we're not blown up in the night.

[13:51] I am eight, ordinance, amending, session 27, day, should 308, homo, use.

[13:58] This is just a, yeah, this is just a proposed ordinance that I wanted to put on the table.

[14:03] We have seen an uptick in the number of electronic bicycles, scooters and those types of recreational vehicles that are out there.

[14:15] And a lot of cities are seeing up to countries that are being caused by the interaction between these types of vehicles and cars.

[14:24] And so what I wanted to do was to take a look at the existing ordinance, also make sure that our lack of how to align with the state ordinances.

[14:32] We're not passing this tonight.

[14:33] I wanted this to be something to be reviewed, to put out into the public, to take common on to make sure that we get this thing right.

[14:39] Really, the interest is safety for all users going forward, and especially as these bicycle types are now,

[14:48] the engine sizes are growing and growing and growing, and I think they're great.

[14:52] And they have pedals with the bicycles awesome.

[14:54] We have to make sure that people are operating them in a safe way, not just the users of them themselves, but also people.

[15:21] I'm going to have a question.

[15:24] I'm going to have a question.

[15:24] That's it.

[15:26] So is it something that we can look?

[15:28] We catch them right without a help.

[15:30] We can take their vehicle, their bike.

[15:33] Possibly.

[15:35] Maybe.

[15:37] That would be the home.

[15:39] I guess.

[15:40] Okay.

[15:42] Let me ask another question while we're on biking.

[15:45] If you ride and know it well in a highway, or you're supposed to stay on the right side of the road.

[15:53] I'm asking for a question.

[15:54] I'm asking for a Korean.

[15:56] They're all over the road.

[15:59] They're riding the middle, riding the turn lane.

[16:01] They're all in an out of traffic.

[16:03] No.

[16:03] No helmet.

[16:07] No helmet.

[16:07] Could I answer the question from the President?

[16:10] The way I look at the President?

[16:12] The President?

[16:14] The President?

[16:14] Okay.

[16:14] Let me get you to the top.

[16:16] The President?

[16:17] Yeah, what's the law?

[16:19] Are they supposed to write on the right side of the right?

[16:20] I think they're supposed to write with traffic.

[16:22] And the other of the human nature was a regular residential.

[16:25] You know, bikes get to occupy our streets in the same way.

[16:29] And so, another interstate is obviously an exception to that.

[16:32] But their residential streets are supposed to be good.

[16:34] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[16:35] I don't know how much my risk needs to strip.

[16:36] They don't?

[16:39] They have you?

[16:40] They have you either.

[16:41] So, when they're at a reasonable,

[16:42] But cyclists know, cyclists can drive right down, fair do you have it in?

[16:48] It's legally allowed to ride down fair do you have it?

[16:50] The whole point of this is that we've got motorized bicycles.

[16:55] We're getting faster and faster and faster and less safe.

[16:59] I get calls from neighborhoods, residents, and they're just trying to find a way to enforce some of the main people safer.

[17:07] No, no, I agree with your Andrew. We have people riding four wheelers in the neighborhood,

[17:12] now that no LL would stay.

[17:13] So you're a nice special rider.

[17:15] I'm over cycles.

[17:17] All right.

[17:17] Miss Rowley, you get you questions. We're going to move on.

[17:20] Well, my question about it all is,

[17:22] we've got a second week.

[17:24] We've got a second week.

[17:25] We've got a second week.

[17:26] We've got a second week.

[17:26] I have to see them.

[17:30] By the time I put my mind to start and jump off of them,

[17:32] You have a thing, right?

[17:35] It's a part of that, that's exactly what we constantly keep in your moves on enforce these.

[17:41] We have ordnance on the books and they're not really focused.

[17:44] So who's important, because if I just snap a picture, instead of that, who's a person?

[17:51] That's what I was saying, you're like, sorry, I mean, what should I do in the mirror, right?

[17:55] I can't think of a thing like that, no, we want public confidence, I mean, the concern about it,

[18:00] It does not seem like it's just a file with reason to not pass something to help make our streets safe.

[18:12] That's a talking to your mind.

[18:14] From at least I'm very familiar with this education opportunity, right?

[18:17] To say that we have more than it's on the books.

[18:19] We can put signage out, we can form the public, we can go to our name, our dissociation.

[18:23] We can shrug off the idea that people will actually listen to that.

[18:27] And that's fine.

[18:28] But I still think it's something that is important for us to do.

[18:30] to watch any other basic values too in reaction to these motorized bicycles that are getting

[18:37] our streets?

[18:39] No.

[18:40] Hi.

[18:41] Okay.

[18:42] Next slide.

[18:42] I didn't miss the resolution celebrating the 50th anniversary of the person.

[18:47] I wish you have the right to announce an international ad impact.

[18:51] All of them to begin with a government.

[18:54] All right, and of course you will have a man.

[19:01] All right.

[19:01] I don't know what that is.

[19:02] I don't know what that is.

[19:02] Who's falser?

[19:04] He can't.

[19:04] I'm like a falser.

[19:05] Someone will talk to the others.

[19:07] Jack.

[19:39] I'm not going to be far much markets or I've been sitting back about $10,000.

[19:45] I'm not going to be.

[19:46] Mr. President, I think this may need to be clear, Rob.

[19:49] Negative. Negative. Negative. Negative.

[19:53] It's not. It's about $1.00.

[19:54] I don't want to say say whatever you're going to do.

[19:59] Scott, don't get me stuff, Lester.

[20:02] I'm number 10. I just correct me if I'm not bringing this right.

[20:05] We've got a meagant 76,000 or whatever on the fly, and then on the back it's a different number of my reading that well.

[20:14] On number 10?

[20:16] Yeah, I think it's number 10.

[20:19] Yeah, it's the federal application.

[20:21] It's a fee for 1 million.

[20:22] Point seven.

[20:23] And then it's there.

[20:25] Oh no.

[20:26] The language.

[20:27] The language.

[20:28] The language.

[20:28] We have to put in there now of the year that that action plan was approved.

[20:33] And so that's the language in the resolution itself.

[20:38] The Exhibit A details where it's going from and where it's going to.

[20:44] But it's $475,000 in $10,000 to Fairview Rumors Market.

[20:49] Okay. All right. Thank you.

[20:54] Next item.

[20:55] And I'm 11. Application.

[20:56] I'm going to tell you the retail table line options.

[20:59] This is only.

[20:59] and this is Ryan's prior to the 9264 Board Cooper Mark 1.

[21:06] So, I have a problem there, Nathan.

[21:08] Twelve appear with the proposed demolition of unsafe structure for a 16-line street.

[21:13] I can't bear to thank you.

[21:15] All right.

[21:16] We've listened to that appeal in a regular meeting.

[21:18] 13 is authorization of demolition of the under-swisted locations.

[21:24] 14 is resolution declaring authorizing and assessing

[21:28] cost of abatement of public resources on various lines.

[21:32] All right, thank you, Madam Chair.

[21:33] And I'll vote for you.

[21:35] I want to discuss the more�.

[21:37] Yes, Madam Chair.

[21:40] Yes, Madam Chair.

[21:40] Thank you.

[21:41] This is from economic development.

[21:43] Resolution authorizing the Mayor to make application for

[21:46] economic development partnership of Alabama Sea's grant to support assessment and

[21:52] quick development planning projects along the riverfront project and the city's share which this is approved as a hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars.

[22:01] This is a matter where you don't bring.

[22:03] Yes, the whole grant I think is 350,000 in the city's share of 170,000 dollars.

[22:09] Okay.

[22:11] All right, any questions?

[22:15] And I'll put the communication work session in the roster, we have Angela Hampton, Angela Hampton.

[22:28] All right.

[22:28] Next, it's a sharing of one creature, women.

[22:31] We find no losses by council arriving.

[22:44] Good afternoon.

[22:47] First, I just want to say thank you all for having me here today.

[22:50] I want you to just take a moment into here.

[22:53] not just my words, but here my heart.

[22:58] What if someone had taught me, as 16 years old,

[23:01] what a unhealthy relationship looked like?

[23:04] What if someone had explained that control was in love,

[23:09] that abuse was in normal,

[23:11] and that what I experienced had a name?

[23:16] My name is to Sherry Monkree,

[23:18] and I am the founder of Women Every Find and Go.

[23:21] My own experience with the abuse began when I was 16, and I remained in that relationship for 17 years.

[23:30] I wasn't educated about what I was experiencing.

[23:34] The history is part of why women are refined gold in this today.

[23:40] It is also why I believe so strongly that we need intervention, but we cannot stop that intervention we need prevention.

[23:50] Our mission is to educate, empower, and be in unhelp the cycles of abuse.

[23:57] This impacts every district.

[24:00] So we're asking each of the councilmen, councilmen,

[24:05] to consider partner with women who are refined gold,

[24:09] to help bring domestic violence out of the dark into the light.

[24:15] It enters homes in every neighborhood, it follows childrens into our school, it is a follows

[24:21] adults into workplaces, it shows up in emergency rooms, court rooms, churches, and cows

[24:29] too long for us.

[24:30] And when our young people grow, we'll see an unhealthy relationships without anyone helping

[24:36] them understand what they are seeing and these behaviors become normalized.

[24:42] Board has been doing the work,

[24:46] and our request today is an opportunity to sit at the table

[24:51] with the Office of Violence Prevention and explore how the work of the and youth prevention

[24:56] work can become part of the coordinated community strategy, because I can't change what

[25:03] I didn't know it's 16, but together we can change what the next 16 year old knows, and when

[25:10] We educate, we empower, we empower, we help, we help, we help cycles, and when we intentionally

[25:18] work together, we bring the midst of our lives out of the dark into the light.

[25:23] Thank you.

[25:24] Thank you.

[25:25] Any questions?

[25:33] I do Mr. President?

[25:35] Yes.

[25:36] I'll go back to the new steps to the ordinance for the short term rental.

[25:39] So, Sevin, please sit on the website.

[25:42] The new update.

[25:42] like no, I only got that maybe hour or two hours before the meeting so it has not been

[25:49] swapped out. The one that was in your packet as a system chief has found the way up.

[25:54] So the new one has not been out for public review, correct? Correct. Correct. Thank you.

[25:59] If I may Mr. President? Yes, Mr. Mr. Miss, I'm just saying that the ordinance that has been

[26:05] to the website, includes everything except the change you see under section 2 of A, that

[26:17] strike through a list or advertise for rental. The ordinance, that is the only change

[26:26] in the ordinance that you have substituted before you've brought in the ordinance. That was

[26:33] It's under 2A, which you have nails, the list for advertised.

[26:37] That's the part that struck out.

[26:40] That's the only thing that's changed, correct?

[26:42] That's the only thing that changed from the version that was submitted to the clerk on Friday, the 14th.

[26:48] Okay, thank you.

[26:49] Thank you.

[26:50] I want to thank you for your work on this.

[26:53] You came in.

[26:54] Feet on the ground right in the way that we work with this floor here.

[26:57] You came in and got to this point.

[26:58] Thank you, Council Member for working on it on this committee as we move forward.

[27:04] You know, we don't always get back and forth.

[27:06] Everybody's like, we have a hundred percent anything that just counts to do.

[27:10] We're trying to do things that came up.

[27:12] Because we would try and identify the difference between Airbnb.

[27:16] We don't have the bad operators and we don't have the good operators.

[27:21] So we just got to do what we need to do to protect the city and on the revenue,

[27:24] when it comes to business.

[27:25] I think you guys are working on this.

[27:26] and we'll go to the lower down and thank you.

[27:29] Thank you, this means it's earned.

City Council Work Session (8/18/26)

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