Together for All Ad Hoc Committee

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[0:00] Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Alameda County together for all ad hoc committee meeting. Let's call the roll.
[0:07] Supervisor Merkez, President. Supervisor Fortinado Bass, President.
[0:13] So thank you everyone for joining us. We do have Spanish interpretation available here in our board chamber.
[0:21] And I assume that will also be available to those on Zoom. Madam Clerk are there any instructions in terms of public participation.
[0:29] If you'd like to speak on an item, you can fill out a speaker's card in the front of the room and hand it to the clerk or remote participation follow the teleconferencing guidelines.
[0:42] Post it at www.acgov.org and use your raise your hand function to speak on an item.
[0:50] Thank you. So as we get started, I'll share some framing remarks and run through the plan for our agenda today.
[0:58] I'll hand it over to our Vice Chair to also share framing remarks and then we'll get into the agenda.
[1:05] So firstly, Alameda County together for all this act for all committee.
[1:11] It was created to provide a coordinated and proactive response to protect support and lift up communities that are impacted by federal policy changes and budgets.
[1:23] So we're working to make sure that our communities are informed prepared and coordinated and protecting the critical health programs and social services as well as constitutional rights that we should all be afforded.
[1:35] So we usually meet monthly on the first Thursday and you can stay informed by visiting our website at district five.acgov.org slash act for all.
[1:47] So I do want to welcome us to our first meeting in 2026.
[1:51] We know that the attacks on our communities have been relentless and we are here to take action very briefly.
[1:59] We've done tremendous work in 2025.
[2:02] So together, supervisor Marquez and I with this committee and all of your participation, we've been able to allocate seven and a half million dollars towards immigrant and refugee rapid response.
[2:14] The deportation defense community education and organizing as well as legal services.
[2:21] We're really proud of that work as well as a future commitment for an office of immigrant affairs.
[2:27] We've also been able to make recommendations to the board, which the board has approved to fund critical safety net services services that are impacted by Trump's budget bill.
[2:40] And just in the first weeks of this year and the second year of this current Trump administration.
[2:47] I think it's clear that our communities are in crisis immigrant communities across the country are facing a level of fear and instability that we can't ignore.
[2:57] And that fear isn't abstract.
[2:59] Immigration enforcement operations have resulted in shootings and deaths of community members, leading families and neighborhoods traumatized and demanding answers.
[3:10] Just in the last two weeks, our communities are still reckoning with the tragic killings by ICE agents of Keith Porter and Renee Good.
[3:23] And last year, 2025 was the deadliest year for those in ICE custody in over two decades with 32 of our community members losing their lives.
[3:33] So throughout the state of nation, there has been an increase of incidents of arrests of both citizens and non-citizens by mass, non-uniformed plainclothes federal agents.
[3:45] Often these agents will not have visible names or officer identification numbers or other individually identify information on their persons.
[3:54] And this practice is causing confusion here in panic.
[3:58] Our community members have no way of knowing whether these agents are exercising legitimate authority or committing crimes, thereby spreading distrust and law enforcement and harming public safety for all our county residents.
[4:11] So not only has federal immigration enforcement intensified that immigration court system is being hollowed out with federal judges fired courts closing in cases being delayed for years.
[4:24] In fact, over the past year, 100 immigration judges have been fired.
[4:30] Here in San Francisco, the San Francisco Immigration Court will be closing, possibly as soon as the summer, and that will leave people in legal limbo.
[4:40] We're hearing that when judges are fired, their cases are cancelled, the hearings are cancelled and delayed for three to four years.
[4:49] And so there was already very little deep process and with this happening within our court system, there will be even less deep process.
[4:57] In our courts on our streets with these ICE agents, and we're also hearing that bond hearings are being increasingly restricted.
[5:06] So this is a true crisis for our community.
[5:11] Again, what we are hoping to do is make sure with the work that we're doing in this committee is we're upholding our legal system and our laws as well as our constitution.
[5:22] These are fundamental rights for all of us.
[5:25] And while this is happening, this must deportation agenda and all of what the federal administration is causing in terms of chaos, fear, trauma, separating families.
[5:37] I know that those of you who are here, those of you who are we are partnering with, you have been demonstrating courage, resilience and an unshakable commitment to keeping our communities safe by organizing, educating and empowering each other.
[5:53] So I am very grateful for that. And with the proposals I'm bringing forward today, my hope is that we as a county are also going to take on our responsibility with the same courage, clarity, compassion, coordination and conviction that we see out in the community.
[6:10] So the legislation that we'll talk to talk about today is about protecting our residents, upholding fundamental rights and ensuring our systems don't contribute to harm.
[6:21] And that our commitment is reflected with justice, public safety, and standing up for our communities, everyone who calls Elamita home.
[6:31] So today's agenda is going to focus our discussion on continuing from November where we discussed two policy proposals.
[6:41] One is the development of a response plan.
[6:45] In case of increased ice enforcement in the second is the adoption of a policy that would establish ice resones here in Elamita County.
[6:53] We'll hear from our department heads about existing practices, planned initiatives, lessons learned and operational considerations, and that will help inform our approach to having a coordinated realistic as well as effective response.
[7:08] Again, to protect individual rights, maintain public safety and importantly to continue access to our county services for all of our communities.
[7:18] And again, our goal is simple, every resident should be able to access healthcare courts, schools and public services without fear.
[7:28] So, just to go through our agenda, we will hear from a brief overview from myself, kind of picking up where we left off in December.
[7:43] And then we will hear from Director Gas away from a general services agency, Sheriff Senia Sanchez, District Attorney Ursula Jones, Probation Chief Ryan Ford and Public Defender Brendan Woods.
[7:59] Each presenter has five to ten minutes, they all know their time.
[8:04] We'll have clarifying questions and then discussion after the presentations.
[8:10] From there, we'll have public comment.
[8:13] It's one public comment on this item today and then we'll come back to the community for action.
[8:20] And with that, I'll pass it to my colleague, supervisor Marquez, and thank you so much for your ongoing leadership on these issues.
[8:28] Thank you chair for channel bass and welcome community. Thank you for being here. Thank you for your interest.
[8:36] I want to personally thank supervisor for tunnel bass for her leadership as well as her staff for working with the counties.
[8:43] General services agency and public safety partners to provide a deeper cross agency review of our two action items today.
[8:53] Regardless of our unique roles, responsibilities, or even ideologies, I do not believe anyone of our county leaders or staff could have anticipated the full magnitude of this federal administration's lack of regard for the constitution or humanity.
[9:13] Renee Nicole Good should still be alive.
[9:17] Keith Porter Jr. should still be alive.
[9:22] And sadly, the list of mothers, fathers, neighbors, caregivers, co-workers, friends and fellow human beings who have been denied their due process and dignity by ice goes on and on and on.
[9:40] But I believe that we can and must continue to transform our pain into purpose.
[9:48] In the words of the National Youth Foliloriate, Amanda Gorman, in her poem for the fellow poet Renee Nicole Good,
[9:57] changes only possible and all the greater when the labor and bitter anger of our neighbors is moved by the love and better angels of our nature.
[10:12] But they call death and void, we know is breath and voice.
[10:17] In the end, gorgeously, angels are enormity.
[10:22] Let us continue to acknowledge and further embrace our collective responsibility to promote a safe, healthy and just county for all.
[10:38] Thank you, supervisor Mark has and just a note to members of the public who are with us today.
[10:44] The agenda did include the two board letters from November that my office submitted yesterday.
[10:52] It also included an amended ice-free zones policy.
[10:58] And we are going to go through a slightly updated PowerPoint presentation.
[11:06] We'll review the two items in front of us and to share a few updates.
[11:13] And the PowerPoint presentation, if you want to access it, you can also find it online on our Act for all web page.
[11:24] And that is district five.acgov.org slash act for all.
[11:36] Great.
[11:42] So some of this might be repetitive relative to the hearing that we first had in November.
[11:50] So I will skip through those slides that we reviewed last time.
[11:59] So this again is the purpose for the Act for all committee.
[12:04] And again, we're really proud of the recommendations that our committee has made to the full board, which has resulted in millions of investments to our most vulnerable communities.
[12:17] Today we'll be hearing two policy proposals from my office.
[12:22] And we will be moving forward hopefully recommendations to implement to response plan for immigration enforcement as well as ice free zones.
[12:37] And we reviewed these slides last time.
[12:40] These slides really document the work that this committee has done to protect our immigrant and refugee communities.
[12:48] So this has a timeline of the actions and investments that we have made.
[12:55] And the specific investments we've made to really bolster immigrant and refugee protections in our county.
[13:03] And include these specific investments to our public defenders immigration unit.
[13:08] Accord, which is providing legal services.
[13:12] Assilip, which is our rapid response hotline as well as Akudir, who is doing community organizing.
[13:18] I know many of you have been working incredibly hard over the past year.
[13:23] This is very, very important work in our community.
[13:26] So thank you.
[13:30] And we're also proud that we've been able to share this information broadly with our community.
[13:37] So as a recap, rising isactivity.
[13:41] So we all know that isactivity has been rising.
[13:44] I will just point out that HR1, the budget bill passed nationally in July.
[13:50] We'll increase ISIS budget 75 billion over four years.
[13:54] That's a 300% increase.
[13:57] Making ice the most well-funded federal law enforcement agency in US history.
[14:02] And I think part of our concern is the community is that with this surge in funding is a surge in recruitment.
[14:10] We are seeing officers coming on board who are not well trained using excessive force.
[14:18] And that's a real harm to our community.
[14:21] In October, we all remember that there was a confirmed report of planned large-scale immigration and enforcement activities.
[14:30] Here in our county at Coast Guard Island, that was called off nonetheless to members of our community.
[14:36] We're injured by gunshot wounds, by federal agents.
[14:41] And one additional community member was shot with a chemical weapon and severely injured.
[14:46] So this activity is quite dangerous.
[14:49] And not only that since Trump's immigration crackdown in Los Angeles last summer, there have been 17 documented incidents in which immigration agents opened five.
[15:00] And as we have both acknowledged in the past two months, months, ice has shot and killed two individuals, Renee Good and Minneapolis and Keith Porter and Southern California.
[15:12] So it's imperative that our county is fully prepared for any increased attacks on our community and that we collaborate across the county with our cities, our hospitals and health care facilities, our education, transit and other
[15:29] agencies. And so here you'll see some graphs about the increase in ice funding.
[15:39] So getting to our first proposal, this is our response plan to immigrant enforcement activities.
[15:47] This is based on work that Santa Clara County spearheaded here in the Bay Area and Santa Clara County in December adopted their response plan.
[15:58] And here you'll see in this again is information that we first looked at in November, the framework for our plan is building off our current vision 2036 goals and board direction,
[16:13] emphasizing coordination among our departments and our community partners, and making sure that we are informed by our agencies and our partners.
[16:26] There's a bunch of work that's been going on over the past year.
[16:29] We want to really build on existing and ongoing preparation efforts that also includes our existing emergency response plans.
[16:37] This should be a tiered community response, recognizing that there has been ongoing ice activity this past year.
[16:45] And as that escalates, we want to make sure that the response is appropriate.
[16:51] And one of the things that I think is really important, which Santa Clara is doing, is recognizing there needs to be a post event process, recognizing that in the event of increased ice enforcement activity,
[17:05] we'll need community restoration and healing. It will be very important to address the trauma.
[17:13] So this slide draws on feedback from our own Alameda County departments and community other cities.
[17:21] I won't read through this because we went through this back in November.
[17:26] But you'll see here the core components are protocols for communication training, making sure our workplaces and other public places are safe and directing our administrator to coordinate these efforts.
[17:44] So back in November we heard from our social services agency and you'll see you'll see here a list of the planning that they have done.
[17:54] So you'll see that since 2017 there's been $90 million in investments in our immigrant community.
[18:01] And also very important since January of last year our social services agency has had an internal agency work group to strategize and communicate.
[18:13] They've updated a resource guide for programs and services provided guidance to staff, distributed countless red cards, and make sure that they're signage restricting non-SSA staff from public areas.
[18:29] Social services agency is providing interim coordination for immigrant and refugee services, as well as supporting the creation of the office of immigrant and refugee affairs, which supervisor Mark has a spearheading.
[18:44] Also, in July, SSA together with the Mexican consulate entered into an MOU with the purpose of protecting Mexican miners by providing a mechanism for early identification of them and their families to preserve, rehabilitate and reunite these families.
[19:05] We also heard back in November from Alameda County Health.
[19:10] They've had an internal cross agency group meeting since December of 2024.
[19:15] They've instituted a modified incident command structure within the agency.
[19:20] They've done work in their facilities to make sure public and private spaces are clearly marked that they're up to date protocols for their buildings.
[19:31] That most of their buildings have key card access on a more secure and that their staffing contractors are trained on HIPAA, which is protecting privacy.
[19:44] In terms of staff support and training, they went through their policy really developing a culture of compassion and acceptance so that those who are impacted by immigration enforcement of access to resources.
[19:59] They've provided guidance on what to do with ice or other law enforcement show up.
[20:04] They've provided know your rights, resources, and again, they're really focused as our healthcare agency and with a public health approach and ensuring access to care and looking at the specific needs of impacted communities and really focusing on information and guidance and continuing to engage in trusted messengers.
[20:26] So that's an update on our response plans.
[20:31] And then the second policy is for ice free zones.
[20:36] And what motivated me partly to introduce this to our county is that the city of Chicago, the mayor of Chicago actually passed an executive order.
[20:48] Back in October declaring city owned properties ice free zones and restricting the use of their municipal facilities for ice enforcement.
[20:58] This is something that's happening across the country and on the slide you'll see here a summary of what's happening locally.
[21:05] Again, Santa Clara counties or do unanimously passed a similar policy December 9.
[21:12] The city council of San Jose also unanimously passed a similar policy just this past Tuesday.
[21:21] And similar policies are being discussed in Los Angeles as well as in San Francisco.
[21:30] Elamine county does not yet have a policy explicitly restricting federal immigration enforcement agencies from using our county facilities and so that is the purpose of this proposed policy.
[21:51] Okay, and so.
[21:54] On this slide you'll see a summary of the policy and so again the ice free zone policy.
[22:02] Is a policy that will state that no county owned or county controlled properties, including parking lots vacant lots garages.
[22:13] And on public areas of building shall be used for staging areas processing locations or operations basis for the purpose of immigration enforcement.
[22:23] In terms of implementation and enforcement.
[22:27] We would have our administration identify such properties that could potentially be used for immigration enforcement.
[22:36] We'd ensure that wherever appropriate there are physical barriers such as gates to limit access.
[22:42] And we would also establish a process for posting clear signage and some of that is already in the works and we'll hear more as we have the presentations.
[22:59] And in addition.
[23:01] There will be development of procedures requiring county staff to report any federal attempts to use our county owned or county controlled property for immigration enforcement.
[23:13] And we think it's important to ensure that these immigration enforcement incidents are communicated.
[23:19] To our county administrator or county council or public safety offices and to the board.
[23:26] And we again want to make sure that laws are being followed and our constitution is being upheld.
[23:33] The county administrator or her design would develop procedures to implement the policy and I am proposing that a progress report come to our next act for all committee.
[23:45] This implementation procedures should be clear in terms of the reporting policy and be consistent with the response plan.
[23:55] Lastly, the amended policy in front of us also has a clause around identification of federal immigration officers.
[24:07] This states the county calls on federal immigration enforcement officers performing official business in the county to identify themselves as federal immigration enforcement officers and to make clear.
[24:19] That they are not officers agents or employees of the county into comply with all state and federal legal protections afforded to county residents.
[24:30] So with that summary and overview, we can move on to the presentations from our department heads.
[24:40] And let me just review the order so that that is clear.
[24:45] We will hear first from our director of general services, then our sheriff, our district attorney, our probation chief and our public defender.
[24:57] Director Kimberly Gasaway with General Services Agency. Thank you for joining us.
[25:02] Good afternoon. Thank you, supervisors. Again, Kimberly Gasway Director General Services Agency and our agency's role is property management in all county owned and these buildings in which county services where we occupy those facilities.
[25:20] Back in October when this first started coming to our attention, we began implementing posting signage in all county owned and lease buildings designating up there where portions of the facility were for authorized personnel only to make it clear to distinguish between public access spaces such as a lobby of a building versus going into the back areas where only authorized personnel were to be there.
[25:48] So that has already been underway. The majority of the buildings are complete and then includes again as I mentioned owned and lease facilities.
[25:56] I do see that you're making recommendations about some postage on a building as a whole so we'll coordinate with the county administrator regarding that.
[26:05] Specifically really ties operations. In addition, whenever there's an emergency in a facility, we do have communication protocols so that I'm notified immediately if something that is happening and that's.
[26:20] So that I can coordinate with the county administrator HR and other department heads that are affected in that facility whether it's county owned or least.
[26:29] And looking at what you're talking about communications on such protocols if activities start to happen in one of our buildings will certainly roll that into the current protocols and make sure everybody's clearly trained on how that happens.
[26:43] Separately, we managed the security guards in county buildings whether armed or unarmed throughout the portfolio and so we will make sure that security guards are fully trained on how they are to respond if.
[26:58] Ice agents or border patrol come into our facilities, you know making sure they have judicial warrants in order to go beyond.
[27:05] Public area or if they're going to start setting up staging, etc.
[27:11] As you other activities that you've identified here, so we will make sure those protocols and that communication is goes to those contracts or providers.
[27:25] Thank you director gas away. We'll take clarifying questions from the committee. Supervisor Marquez.
[27:31] Thank you. Thank you, director gas away for being here today.
[27:35] With respect to the communication protocols and the event of an emergency is that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year or their limitations if it's evening or weekends.
[27:49] And there's obviously proper protocols should you be out on leave, there's someone in your stead.
[27:58] Okay.
[27:59] Alan back sir my chief of operations, here's while I'm going to make sure he hears firsthand all of this so that we are aligned and he is also responsible in that area.
[28:10] Okay, and then can you elaborate on.
[28:13] We're aware that the only way an agent can enter a proper property is with the judicial warrant.
[28:19] So did you say that training still needs to occur with your staff or it's already started. I just want to be clear on that.
[28:26] It needs to occur. It has not yet we just came to understand that and we need to make sure we understand the different types of warrants that that has to be signed by judge.
[28:36] Not only our staff are informed, but also our security guards that are contracted need to understand. Okay, and how long do you think that training will take once we've developed the proper curriculum is that.
[28:49] Something that will take 30 days 16 90 days to train everyone. Do you have a sense I know you're still exploring, but do you have the early read on that.
[28:58] Probably 30 days or less.
[29:00] Okay, and how many people are we talking about training approximately.
[29:05] So there we need to coordinate with all the department heads in the county because several of the facilities.
[29:10] GSA does not occupy so we need to make sure that they have safety managers that we interact with all the time and their facility managers and their county leadership.
[29:20] So we will draft the protocol make sure everyone gets it we have regular meetings with those safety managers so make sure that's rolled out and we will give notification to our security officers security guards as well.
[29:33] Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you chair.
[29:37] Thank you director gas away and in terms of inventorying our county owned and county controlled property.
[29:44] What's the status of that list?
[29:47] So we do keep an inventory of all of our county properties and that is posted on the county website under the capital plan.
[29:53] It's an appendix to the capital plan everyone can see that.
[29:57] I've already spoken with our county administrators off.
[30:00] Office that will go through that and look and identify a building that could potential be set up for some of these operations.
[30:08] Thank you, and that also includes vacant lots, but we might have. Excuse me?
[30:13] That also includes any vacant lots that we might have. Thank you.
[30:17] vacant lots, parking lots, buildings, everything.
[30:20] Thank you so much. Really appreciate the work today.
[30:25] Okay. Sheriff Sanchez. Thank you so much for being here.
[30:31] We welcome your presentation on any issues related to either of these proposals in terms of the work that your office is already doing or anything that we should be considering as we look at these plans.
[30:45] Yeah, so I'm glad to be here in answering your questions that come forth. I know that we've been in this arena a couple of times already and it's just to kind of reiterate.
[30:57] What I've already said as far as the fact that the Sheriff's Office has very clear directives on how we do or do not communicate with us.
[31:05] I've made it very clear that we do not accept civil detainers at our facility at the jail. We only accept criminal warrants for people.
[31:14] We have continued to provide information and communicate with ASLIP, so that if they need any information or need the public to be informed as far as with the Sheriff's Office role in any kind of
[31:26] Isectivity that's out there in the community that they spot that they can communicate with us to see if that is an actual isolation or maybe it's local operation that's occurring.
[31:36] So knowing that our community could call us if they see plain clothes and individuals who are trying to affect an arrest or make some sort of enforcement action.
[31:48] We will respond to those calls to make sure and verify that those are law enforcement officers.
[31:53] I think that should be stated that any professional law enforcement agency understands and knows the need to be clearly marked and identified as a law enforcement officer.
[32:06] It is a safety issue when you have people who are running around in sweatshirts and jeans that are trying to
[32:14] take some sort of enforcement action. If we get call to that, how do we know who's who?
[32:20] So that's, you know, my understanding as far as how that occurs out in the community and how federal officers are taking that position to not be clearly marked is beyond me.
[32:32] But I think that if you talk to any local chief in our county and beyond, they'll reiterate what I've said.
[32:40] It's very important that we make sure that whoever we're encountering knows that we're a law enforcement officer.
[32:47] So you will see that from your local law enforcement agencies and your local law enforcement agencies within this county will respond to those calls that there is a fear that somebody is trying to make some sort of enforcement action that's not clearly marked.
[33:00] I think that these are very interesting times and I'm looking forward to working with our partners to make sure that there's a clear communication on when there's some sort of activity that requires another department to partner or make sure that individuals have resources available to them.
[33:24] I know that there's still some discussions that have to occur with regard to individuals who are trying to get their court cases heard in our local court houses and how that, how that operates or the operation of identifying people coming into the court house to potentially affect some sort of ice enforcement action.
[33:47] So those conversations are continuing and of course just put something out on Friday and we're working through logistics on that.
[33:57] Thank you very much, Sheriff. Supervisor Mark has any comments or questions.
[34:03] Thank you, Sheriff Sanchez. I believe you've been publicly stating your position in how your department does not cooperate with ice since before this current administration even took office.
[34:14] So thank you for your consistent position and willingness to share that with the public on an ongoing basis.
[34:24] We are aware of some issues that have happened at the courthouse you and I meet mentally and so if you don't mind just kind of sharing with the public just so we're all clear on kind of rules responsibilities and jurisdiction in terms of.
[34:39] As much as we would like to give direction and collaborate with the court it is a separate entity so if you don't mind and I know there's.
[34:47] Updates that obviously we still need to analyze but you mentioned something just was released on Friday, but if you could just explain to the public the role the judicial council and how they managed the court system.
[34:58] Yeah, so the sheriff's office provides security at the state court houses. So the state and the judicial council is really who sets policy.
[35:09] And that's kind of what we've been waiting for as far as guidance on how that is going to look like in the court houses so we just got that policy.
[35:18] We're working through how that's going to be affected. There's some language that needs to be cleaned up and we're working with presiding judge to do that but.
[35:28] It is a state facility so if you if we want to post signs the state has to approve of the judicial the presiding judge has to approve that so it's really working through those those steps because it is state and not counting.
[35:44] And let's just say hypothetically if there was.
[35:49] Issactivity and our social services agency.
[35:57] Any building that we own in manage.
[36:02] What is the response from your department in terms of.
[36:06] Whether an agent has a valid warrant or not, but what do we have current protocols in place.
[36:13] So we would treat them like any other law enforcement agency. We can't.
[36:18] We can't intervene in their law enforcement action.
[36:22] It's obviously a difficult situation in itself, whether we agree with it or not.
[36:29] But if they are in a public area affecting some sort of action, there's nothing we can do about that.
[36:36] We can make sure that we communicate that there's been some sort of is activity or arrest to whoever is going to be providing some sort of resources to that individual or their family.
[36:46] But we can't stop and arrest what we can do is we can ask them what their legal businesses for that area for the ones that are providing security for that building such as the courthouse asking what their businesses and making sure that they are clearly.
[37:03] The law enforcement officer. So if they're coming in plainclothes, then we are going to make sure that they are a law enforcement officer first off.
[37:13] Thank you.
[37:19] Thank you so much, Sheriff. I think the only question I might have is, could you talk a bit a little bit about your work with other law enforcement chiefs in the county and sort of what the.
[37:32] And discussion has been around these times of increase immigration enforcement. Well, what level of say communication and coordination is happening with you and the city police chiefs, for example.
[37:45] Yeah, we're in constant communication. We're on the same page of how we feel and how we're in respond to the community. I think that the concern is what we've seen across the nation is.
[37:56] Support our community in voicing their dismay about what's happening across this country.
[38:03] But doing it in a safe way where you're not putting yourselves in visible danger.
[38:10] And we train very differently.
[38:13] Our local law enforcement agencies train very differently from them. And we don't know what those with what that training is for the federal officers.
[38:20] But what we can say is that if you physically try to intervene with them.
[38:26] It's unpredictable as far as how their response is going to be and we want to make sure that everybody goes home to their families and that they're able to see another day.
[38:36] And that's that's really our greatest concern. We are there to protect everyone from harm and we want to make sure that you're being safe in exercising your rights.
[38:51] You so much, and thank you for the work that you and the deputies do.
[38:55] Okay, our next speaker is our district attorney, Ursula Jones Dixon, and she is joining us on zoom. Madam clerk are you able. Oh great, she's right there.
[39:06] Thank you guys here. Thank you DA for joining us.
[39:10] Thank you. Can you guys hear me?
[39:12] Yes, we can. So again, we invite you.
[39:17] We invite you to comment on any of the, any work you're already doing is it relates to increased immigration enforcement and the current climate around immigrants and refugees and to comment on these two policies in front of us.
[39:32] So I apologize. I'm not there in person. I'm not in state.
[39:36] But I did want to at least be here to let everyone here know that the DA's office one as it relates to victims of crime.
[39:46] We don't ask anybody about their immigration status nor do we have any contact. We don't engage ICE at all.
[39:54] And that has been the situation for quite some time way before I was there for many, many years that continues to be the case.
[40:03] As it relates to people charged with the crime. We also don't ask anything about their immigration status.
[40:11] That information can come to us later on oftentimes through defense counsel because we take immigration status into consideration as it relates to plea agreements.
[40:22] And that that's required of the DA's office and we always adhere to that rule.
[40:28] But we don't ask anyone's immigration status. More importantly, as it relates to the district attorney's office, we don't allow ICE into our office.
[40:38] Even though they come into, you know, if they come into the building, that's one thing, but we don't allow them into the district attorney's office any area.
[40:48] And any of our buildings and so all of our staff are aware that if there is any concern about ICE activity, everyone at the office knows to contact me or my chief assistant or our chief of inspectors or assistant chief of inspectors so that we can try to determine what the concern issue or threat is and decide what the plan isn't of course disseminate that information to everyone else.
[41:17] I do think to piggyback on what the sheriff just said, these are very disturbing times.
[41:24] And my hope is that some level of collaboration at least keeps our citizens informed about what's going on.
[41:33] The best we possibly can. I also realize that what we're seeing across the country is a very sickening disturbing response from this administration as it relates to folks who are even wanting to engage to stop activities by ICE that we know aren't legal.
[41:56] I, as you all know, left the court of recent I was looking at their new directive. I know that the sheriff said they're cleaning up some language. So I've not had a conversation yet with the presiding judge about that.
[42:08] That directive seems to be pretty clear that the court does not want anyone coming into the courthouse unless they have lawful business.
[42:19] And so that is kind of where we all stand and how we all respond to that because the court is going to have to lead us also.
[42:28] I'm happy to look to the attorney general's office as it relates to direction for prosecutors.
[42:37] As we kind of move through these these muddy waters and so the hope is to be reaching out to a AG bond to the office as well just to say is anything specific that you want from the district attorney's offices and the state of California any messaging we should be having.
[42:54] Any questions for me.
[42:57] Thank you district attorney supervisor Marcos.
[43:00] I don't have any questions at this time. Thank you for being here.
[43:05] The district attorney.
[43:07] The directive that you mentioned from the presiding judge is that for the Renee Davis in courthouse or it's it's those directed.
[43:16] No.
[43:17] No.
[43:18] It should be for the entire court system.
[43:22] The presiding judge should be making those directives as it relates to the courts. Again, I'm not spoken to him.
[43:29] I had an opportunity right before I left to take a look at that directive.
[43:34] The.
[43:36] I think the sheriff was alluding to the fact that there's some complications because our buildings are shared by kind of state and county.
[43:44] The JJC is the best example of that a portion of the building is state a portion of it is the county.
[43:52] So there are some concerns at least in my head as to what how that directive needs to be evaluated and how we move on it.
[44:02] But the presiding judge should be making the call for all of the courts because he is presiding over all of the court.
[44:10] Thank you for that clarification.
[44:13] Okay, next we will hear from our probation chief Brian Ford and I believe there's a presentation.
[44:23] I do have the clicker here if this is needed.
[44:40] Thank you. So good afternoon chair for not a bass and supervisor Marka. So today we'll be providing an overview of our department's policies and protocols along with just a general.
[44:50] Briefing of our immigration related efforts this presentation is intended to outline how we operate in this area.
[44:56] The legal framework that guides our work and the procedures and.
[45:00] Please to ensure clarity, consistency, and accountability across our department. Our approach is grounded in the county's vision, values and goals. We are committed to upholding public safety, complying with state and federal law, and at the same time honoring the county's longstanding commitment to equity, fairness, and building trust with the communities that we serve. This includes ensuring that our practices are transparent, that our staff are properly trained, and that our policies reflect both our legal obligations, and our responsibility.
[45:30] To treat all individuals with dignity and respect. The information that you'll hear today will provide context on how we balance these responsibilities, and how our protocols are designed to align with the county's priorities around community trust, access to services, and our lawful and ethical operations. And so with that, I'll turn it over to Deputy Director, Mr. Albert Banwellos, who will walk us through the presentation, and then we'll be happy to take questions.
[46:00] Thank you and good afternoon. First, we want to thank the supervisors, the committee members for allowing us to shine some light on our current processes and procedures within the department to keep us aligned.
[46:12] The presentation is a little more robust. I think some of this may seem that we're going over a little more than we need to, so we'll skip through a couple of slides that have been covered already.
[46:22] But first of all, we want to talk about our commitment, our legal and policy framework, some of our policies and trainings, and the performance of transparency, and how we are aligned with our countywide, stands in continuous efforts.
[46:35] First of all, the yellow meter county probation department prohibits cooperation with federal civil immigrant enforcement through clear policy training and legal compliance.
[46:46] And these are our key pillars, unyielding legal adherence, full compliance with all state laws and county mandates.
[46:53] We establish protocols as zero tolerance for unauthorized information sharing or cooperation of approval performance, verifiable data demonstrating zero holes, zero transfers and zero interviews.
[47:07] Strategic alignment seamlessly integrated with the counties and broader sanctuary posture.
[47:14] So our legal framework is we lean on the trust act, maybe four, the truth act, the California values act, and the clits restriction.
[47:26] Preparing our staff internal department policies, clear policy in the no room for ambiguity, every staff member operates under strict protocols, policies and procedures, no inquiries, collection or documentation of immigration status.
[47:43] No cooperation with ICE, detainers, holds, or interview requests without a judicial warrant.
[47:50] No release of judicial information without specific juvenile court orders, no sharing of clits or personal data with immigration authorities and mandatory supervision notification, documentation of any isolated contact or attempt.
[48:10] The preparing our staff internal department policies, the department has established clear and detailed policies governing state staff interactions and federal immigration authorities, applicable across all divisions.
[48:23] For section here, we speak about our adult field policies section 290 which applies to adult probation supervision and field operation.
[48:31] It prohibits inquiries into immigration status cooperation with ICE enforcement bars honoring ICE holds, notifications or interviews absent of judicial warrant.
[48:43] Required documentation, client notification and executive escalation of any ICE contact.
[48:53] Our juvenile field services applies to youth under juvenile court supervision and it holds strict juvenile confidentiality under wake 827-831-828.
[49:04] It prohibits ICE access, interviews or information sharing without again, a court order.
[49:09] Establish procedures for S.I.J.S. considerations referral to the court, not enforcement.
[49:16] In regards to our juvenile facilities prohibits ICE presence, interviews or use of probation facilities, requires all ICE inquiries to be routed to executive leadership and ensures custody, classification and service are never impacted by immigration status.
[49:36] In regards to some of our staff training, a court director for all our staff employees are trained to never engage independently with immigration authorities, all inquiries are immediately redirected to a supervisor, reinforcement through ongoing supervisor refreshers and internal bulletins.
[49:55] Some of our training curriculum covers SB 54, class and internal ICE protocols and response procedures, and there's a mandatory training in place.
[50:05] The program for all new hires has been in the fix in 2022, ensuring consistent application of these policies as we bring on to staff to our department.
[50:16] She forward has required now our field officers to speak to a bit of what the sheriff was bringing up earlier to where an identifier is in the community.
[50:23] We find that this to reduce misidentification of probation staff of other immigration agencies, minimize unnecessary tension or hostile encounters and have staff safety for maintaining professionalism.
[50:36] So this approach, it safeguards our community trusts, showing who we are wearing the community, ensuring our clients and those who are we serve, know who's at the door and they're engaged with their clients.
[50:47] Very part of this next slide.
[50:49] This is our own breach record, which shows zero. Since 2022, ICE detainers holds transfers to ICE, interviews granted, or youth related ICE inquiries resulting in information disclosure.
[51:02] Some of the legal shields we hold, because absolute protection for our youth is extremely important to us.
[51:10] The confidentiality of youth records is paramount to protect by law.
[51:15] No information is released without explicit judicial authorization and this legal shield falls under week 31.
[51:23] Our operational protocols of any ICE inquiries regarding youth immediately routed to executive leadership.
[51:30] No information is disclosed under any circumstances, but a single juvenile court order.
[51:37] We mentioned here kind of a collaboration in referral systems towards Bay Area Legal Aid.
[51:43] We show formalistic statistics that are clearly noted here that we have a very low youth immigrant population and those who have been referred to Bay Area Legal Aid.
[51:55] Covered not only immigration, but also immigration related legal assistance, dependency, family matters and other advocacy services.
[52:05] In a full transparency to the truth act, we have a process where we collect our data, we report it to the protocols to the truth act, the documentation protocol, and then the annual report to the board and supervisors.
[52:19] A couple of key points there, ACPD, particularly documents, relevant information regarding interactions with immigration enforcement, data forms, the basis of an annual public report.
[52:32] The record of the zero cooperation fully documented and affirmed and official records.
[52:40] Just lastly, our recommendations for opportunities for the county coordination and alignment, the countywide guidance shared in training, aligned departments under unified written guidance,
[52:51] and coordinated training and sure consistent staff responses and messages.
[52:55] And strengthen liaison roles across the departments and align with social services, public health and community-based organizations to support and impact families without county, entanglement and enforcement.
[53:10] So lastly, our continuous efforts to uphold community trust and ensure safety.
[53:16] Our unwavering commitment, maintaining trust, ensuring the safety of our clients and staff and delivering uninterrupted, equitable services to all.
[53:28] Any questions?
[53:31] Thank you very much.
[53:32] Supervisor Marcus.
[53:34] Thank you for that comprehensive presentation.
[53:38] So training to newly hired staff would happen during onboarding, is there an additional follow-up?
[53:46] I don't know if there's required training every few years, but in terms of refresher, can you just help me understand what the training curriculum looks like for your internal policies?
[53:56] I'll take that question.
[53:57] So yeah, so we include that training as part of our onboarding, and then all sworn staff, all sworn staff are required to do a minimum of 40 hours of training every year.
[54:06] And that is one of the required trainings that they're able to get as a refresher every year.
[54:11] And then it's good to see the referral to legal services.
[54:16] Obviously a bigger discussion not for today, but would also want to make sure that your staff is fully aware of the organizations that this committee has advanced and invested in to make sure.
[54:26] You know, there's different needs in the committee to make sure that your staff is aware of those services as well, as well.
[54:33] I think that's going to be critical.
[54:35] And then help me understand, since now we do have immigration services under the Public Defenders Department.
[54:41] Are there cross referrals or any type of coordination for an adult or juvenile that might need some additional legal support?
[54:49] Yeah, so maybe Brendan can speak the Public Defender can speak to what those services have been like with that coordination has been like nothing has been brought to my level.
[54:59] I will tell you though that maybe almost nine months a year ago, Brendan, there was a case that we did have a young person get detained in San Francisco and we got made aware by his parent.
[55:10] And I reached out to Brendan directly directly and start to coordinate services with his staff to see if they could intervene.
[55:17] Okay, and then the report that's due to the board on an annual basis is up at the end of the calendar year.
[55:24] No, every year I remember usually around springtime all the departments have been required to turn in are.
[55:32] The compliance with the truth act what our numbers have been.
[55:36] Okay, so I've been remembering around April, May.
[55:38] And the spring, okay, that's good to know.
[55:41] And then if someone does violate the policy, what are the ramifications.
[55:48] Well, fortunately we have not had that happen, but depending on the level of the violation, it could result in any level of discipline from a letter of reprimand all the way to something more severe.
[56:00] We haven't had to travel that path so it just depends on a circumstance.
[56:04] Thank you.
[56:06] All right, thank you.
[56:08] That was a very comprehensive presentation. I don't have any question.
[56:13] Okay, and our final presentation is going to be our public defender Brendan Woods. Thank you for being here.
[56:38] So, good afternoon.
[56:43] Thank you supervisor, fortune on a bass and supervisor Marquez for inviting me to my comments today.
[56:50] Before I get into the heart of my comments, I do want to address something that's come up today.
[56:56] This is the first time I'm hearing about a directive from the courts.
[57:03] We talk a lot about collaboration and communication.
[57:07] This is the first time I'm hearing about a directive from the court, what regards to our court houses.
[57:13] As the board is aware, I have an email in the court since July, what regards to recommendations and suggestions, regardless of how we can keep our community members safe and our court houses.
[57:24] And it would be great if they would have a courtesy, the decency to involve the public defender.
[57:33] The ones who is really advocating for people when they are in removal proceedings.
[57:41] So, I want to be clear, I want to be unequivocal.
[57:49] The public defender officer stands in strong support of both public proposals being considered before his committee and we want to say thank you.
[57:58] The resolution restricting the use of county owned and county controlled properties and the proposal to create a county response plan for immigration enforcement activity.
[58:09] I want to be clear, we are in support.
[58:15] Together, these policies will help protect our vulnerable communities from aggressive violence and lawless immigration enforcement actions.
[58:26] Actions that are resulted in the murder of Renee Good, actions that are resulted in the murder of Keith Porter, actions that lead to kidnapping and disappearing of our community members.
[58:38] Some who never make it out of ice custody.
[58:44] As you commented on, 2025 is on record as the deadliest year with people being detained in ice.
[58:55] 32 people, 32 people have lost their lives in immigration custody.
[59:01] Thank you.
[59:04] We are in a state of emergency.
[59:08] In my 55 years on this earth, I cannot recall more dangerous time in our mission history.
[59:16] I will civil liberties of being trampled on a daily basis.
[59:19] Every day, we hear new stories of immigration officers descending in our communities with weapons and masks and unmarked vehicles.
[59:30] They snatch people off the street, they break car windows, they pepper spray piece with protesters, they separate families, literally dragging moms and fathers away from their kids.
[59:43] These agents carried themselves as if they are above the law.
[59:50] And for those unfortunate people who actually end up in immigration system facing deportation, the situation is absolutely dire.
[1:00:00] The Trump administration, as you've noted, has fired 100 immigration judges and replaced them with judges that were rubbers stamped at wishes of his administration.
[1:00:12] And a recent interview, who wanted those fired judges, had actually used to be a former prosecutor.
[1:00:20] They stated, immigration courts are suddenly dead.
[1:00:26] They're completely absent of due process. They exist only for show and the name only. Period.
[1:00:34] The courts are dead.
[1:00:38] Over the last few months, we've seen federal government recruit immigration judges as deportation judges.
[1:00:48] That is a blanket admission from the administration. It is a warning.
[1:00:58] It is notice. It is a declaration. There is no fairness.
[1:01:04] They're not expecting a reality. They're not expecting a process. They're not expecting access to rights and protections that should be afforded to you by law.
[1:01:14] The government is saying, literally, we are here to deport you.
[1:01:19] That is the world we live in now. That is a state about courts, that's a state that our community members and the lawyers and our immigration unit are up against.
[1:01:32] They're bringing us a little bit closer to home.
[1:01:36] In our county that we are aware of, we have had six clients arrested by ICE either in the court house or close to the court house in September.
[1:01:48] There was one young lady arrested last year. Close to our open court house. She wasn't there because she had court. She was there accompanying her mother.
[1:02:01] They were stopped a few blocks away.
[1:02:04] This young lady was 19 years old and she was five months pregnant.
[1:02:11] We were fortunate that in our office we have an immigration lawyer.
[1:02:16] We have immigration lawyers. One of our lawyers was dog and she was able to reach her and found her in immigration detention in San Francisco.
[1:02:23] She would not take no effort and she will contact her and talk to her.
[1:02:28] This young woman had a case that she could fight. She could have fought to stay in this country. She had a good movie case to fight.
[1:02:40] But by doing so, she's detained in an ICE facility.
[1:02:47] It's dangerous, unsanitary, and inhumane.
[1:02:54] So what's her decision?
[1:02:56] Does she stay there trying to fight her case?
[1:02:59] That could take four or five, six months longer?
[1:03:02] Does she agree to self-deport?
[1:03:06] That is the world we're living in now.
[1:03:10] So that is my really long-winded way of saying that our county must act.
[1:03:20] We have a moral obligation and a duty to act.
[1:03:23] We are accountable to our residents, our constituents, our community, and these resolutions that you put forward.
[1:03:31] It is closer to being able to provide basic protections that people are looking to us to provide.
[1:03:39] And for those reasons and so many more, I want to be clear again.
[1:03:45] The public defender's office is in support of these proposals.
[1:03:50] The public defender is in support of these proposals.
[1:03:54] They are an excellent start.
[1:04:06] But as I think about where we are and where we might be headed, there's so much more that we have to do.
[1:04:15] So I do want to thank both of you, sincerely thank both of you.
[1:04:22] It is courageous to bring these proposals forward.
[1:04:26] And at some point in time, when we look back, it will be clear on which side of history you are on.
[1:04:36] So thank you.
[1:04:37] I'm happy to answer any questions.
[1:04:41] Thank you so much, Public Defender Woods.
[1:04:44] Supervisor Markins?
[1:04:45] No, I just want to thank you and Rahha for your leadership.
[1:04:49] I'm going to send it to Public Protection December 19th of 2020-24.
[1:04:57] Yeah, everything's a blur, sorry.
[1:05:00] But just thank you for your steadfast leadership and for being our moral compass.
[1:05:06] And I hear the pain because I know we try to help with the discussion with the court too.
[1:05:12] And I fell on death here, so I hear you in terms of communication.
[1:05:17] And we've got to have a clear distribution list of all justice partners because you've been raising concerns for a long time.
[1:05:25] So I'm hoping that we can all still continue to work together, advance the work,
[1:05:30] but just we're very fortunate to have you as our Public Defender.
[1:05:35] And I know that you will help us problem solve because this road is going to be bumpy.
[1:05:40] And it's really important that we're all here and that was my main request back in November.
[1:05:47] We needed to hear from you, probation, GSA, so just thankful that everyone's here.
[1:05:53] And I'm prepared to move this forward as well with partnership, but we want to hear from the public as well.
[1:05:59] But just thank you for your unwavering support.
[1:06:05] And I'll just say I am very grateful for our Elameda County Public Defender and their office incredibly talented staff.
[1:06:13] Thank you, Raja, as well. And you know, we allocated funding to increase the Immigration Unit, one of the premier units.
[1:06:22] As such in the entire country, it was great to hear one of our last meetings that you are staffing up, perhaps you're already staffed up because this is on the front lines of protecting
[1:06:34] due process. You know, it's all on the news. You don't have to go very far to hear the truth about what this President's agenda is in terms of immigration.
[1:06:45] It's about kicking people out and keeping people out as well.
[1:06:50] And we have to uphold our laws and the Constitution this country was founded on.
[1:06:56] Okay, with that, I'm ready to go to public comment.
[1:07:01] Okay.
[1:07:02] Thank you.
[1:07:09] Mickey Ducksberry, Francis Kendall, Nancy Breslin.
[1:07:15] Art to fall, Brendan Woods. Hi, my name is Mickey Ducksberry.
[1:07:19] I want to thank Supervisor Markets and Supervisor Fortune O'Bass for both of these resolutions.
[1:07:25] I'm speaking from the First Unitarian Church of Oakland. That's why I have this hat on.
[1:07:30] We greatly appreciate your vision and your determination to make our county safe for our immigrant neighbors.
[1:07:36] We urge you to do everything possible to strengthen the resolution.
[1:07:40] So it's clear that the board is the entire board is opposed to the detention center on the side of the former women's prison and Dublin.
[1:07:48] Our county can't totally be ice free. If we have a detention center, because it's going to lead to more terrorizing of immigrants, the separation of families, etc.
[1:07:57] Given the escalation of violence that is occurred in Minneapolis, we need to be prepared for the possibility that brutality by ice will be here in the future.
[1:08:07] We applaud the county's assistance in helping all of us be more organized to protect schools, hospitals and everywhere the day laborers congregate.
[1:08:16] It's beyond the scope of these resolutions, but I hope that the sheriff, the supervisors, the police, the public defender and the day in every city, create.
[1:08:26] Begin now to create contingency plans so that our communities are protected from violence of border control agents.
[1:08:34] We've all seen the videos, ice is behaving like an invading army.
[1:08:39] We need contingency plans so the sheriff's department and police are prepared to protect citizens and do not include with an army of untrained, hateful, vicious people who have not hesitated to use tear gas, pepper balls and bullets.
[1:08:54] The border patrol agents, many of whom are recruited from proud boys are behaving as if there are war against citizens and non-sonicins alike.
[1:09:04] We need to be organized to protect immigrants and many people of color who are being treated like terrorists when they only people who are doing the terrorizing are border control agents.
[1:09:15] Thank you very much.
[1:09:17] Good afternoon, supervisors, Marquez and supervisors for to not a bass.
[1:09:27] My name is Francis Kendall and I too am here from the Justice Council of the first student area in Church of Oakland.
[1:09:33] First, thank you for all you've done today in creating this proposal to keep our communities safer from the threat that an out of control and unaccountable ice poses.
[1:09:44] I have been horrified of the images coming out of Minneapolis where DHS is sending in more ice officers than there are police in the city, creating a state of chaos and disrupting public safety.
[1:09:56] We need to send a strong signal to the federal government that we will not allow that in our county.
[1:10:02] And this measure is an important step to that end.
[1:10:05] We know that DHS has plans to turn the former women's prison in Dublin with its horrific history of abuse into an ice detention center.
[1:10:14] This message this measure must state clearly that our county infrastructure will not be used in any way to support an ice detention center.
[1:10:24] Alabama County cannot be ice free if there is a detention center in our midst.
[1:10:29] We urge you to do everything you can to prevent an ice detention center in our county.
[1:10:34] Thank you.
[1:10:43] My name is Nancy Brasson and I'm here today from the Justice Council, the first unit area in Church of Oakland.
[1:10:49] First I want to thank you.
[1:10:52] You're just the mic so we could hear you. You could adjust the mic.
[1:10:56] Thank you. Okay. I want to thank you both for the work you have done to protect our immigrant neighbors and community and I urge you to support the two resolutions before you.
[1:11:12] And ever escalating violence against residents and citizens who have been exercising their right to assemble and protest the inhumane and illegal treatment of immigrants.
[1:11:24] This violence has now resulted in the killing of residents and innocent citizens.
[1:11:30] If no restraint is put on ice there will be more lives lost.
[1:11:35] Please do everything in your power to prevent the opening of another ice detention center in our community.
[1:11:42] Thank you.
[1:11:46] Color you're on the line. You have two minutes. Leslie.
[1:11:53] Yes, hi. My name is Leslie Firestone and I'm a member of the.
[1:11:59] I know you're right healthcare working group. We've spoken with you before and I wanted to want to support these resolutions and I wanted to specifically speak to.
[1:12:14] The safe guards and trainings that are mentioned within there.
[1:12:19] They are not specifically included in the healthcare section and unfortunately it seems that.
[1:12:27] I'll need a health services doesn't seem to think that those apply to them.
[1:12:34] They've had responses saying that SB 81 does not prescribe training format or require standalone training.
[1:12:42] They are saying that it doesn't impose a impose a statutory requirement to post signage to be placed at the front entrance.
[1:12:54] It only encourages it.
[1:12:56] Waiting rooms are not considered private spaces.
[1:12:59] Engagement with rapid response networks or legal advocates is only a patient decision.
[1:13:05] Now, these are problems that need to be addressed within this format so that they know what their responsibilities are to their patients and to the community.
[1:13:17] Additionally, I wanted to comment on.
[1:13:21] I'm very appreciative that the sheriff's office is saying that they will not.
[1:13:27] Cooperate with ICE, but I also want to hear that they are going to protect community members who stand up and try to protect their communities from ICE from the violence and record and so forth.
[1:13:46] I want to really urge you to put this out as soon as possible.
[1:13:51] Thank you so much for all your work in this.
[1:13:57] Kimberly, you're on the line. You have two minutes.
[1:14:04] Kimberly will.
[1:14:06] Hi. Can you hear me? Yes.
[1:14:09] Okay.
[1:14:10] Good afternoon. On with advisers. I'm Kimberly Will and I serve as a community organizer for services and it's an education at work.
[1:14:18] Otherwise, not assignment. We'll also remember the I set of doubling coalition.
[1:14:23] On behalf of Siren, I'm here to thank the supervisors for bringing forward this proposal to execute to exclude federal immigration force and activity on our tax on a public property and to establish an immigration response plan.
[1:14:38] The passage of HR1, the federal administration will have 30 billion dollars to recruit untrained, armed, trigger a happy officers to execute the harmful families separation agenda.
[1:14:50] And there was no time in using this funding to increase the operations by 120%.
[1:14:56] But the record number of 12,000 officers.
[1:15:00] Unfortunately, the tragic and heartbreaking incidents of ISIS fatal shootings, a many-app with mother,
[1:15:05] Renee Nicole Good, and Los Angeles Father, Keith Porto Jr., show the whole fine lengths of militarization,
[1:15:13] motor, and violence at the federal and immigration enforcement will commit without a second thought.
[1:15:19] That is why we have no time to waste, and while we must pass these crucial policies urgently.
[1:15:26] We encourage you to strengthen proposal by ensuring that non-evil county's property,
[1:15:30] in addition to non-evil resources such as services and personnel, or used aid immigration enforcement.
[1:15:37] We must prohibit our county's valuable resources from being exploited for immigration enforcement
[1:15:42] anywhere in the county, regardless of the land's ownership. And we further recommend a board statement
[1:15:48] in refusing the opening of any detention center in our county. We are counting on alamedic county border supervisors
[1:15:54] to do everything they can to pose ice-fileants and to protect our immigrant loved ones,
[1:15:59] because that is what safety looks like in our community. Thank you.
[1:16:06] Go over on the lawn. You have two minutes, Leslie Rose.
[1:16:11] Hello, my name is Leslie Rose. I'm a constituent of supervisor bass, and a member of the well-stone
[1:16:17] democratic renewal club. We also a member of the ice out of Dublin coalition. I speak in strong
[1:16:25] support of both proposals. I'm a retired law professor. My job was to teach future lawyers about the
[1:16:31] constitution, and that we're governed by the rule of law, and how to use the law on behalf of their clients.
[1:16:38] I'm frankly glad I'm not teaching now, because I don't know how I would explain to them the deterioration
[1:16:45] of the rule of law and fundamental rights. What's happening in this country right now in fringes
[1:16:50] on the first birth and fifth amendments. I also tried to teach my students to be courageous and to use
[1:16:57] their status to speak truth to power when necessary. I think the same holds truth for elected officials
[1:17:05] right now. As Brendan would said, we are in a state of emergency in this country, and I believe
[1:17:11] it's the duty of all electives to use their power to fight for what's right, if not now when.
[1:17:17] So thank you for standing up, and I hope that when these proposals come before your board colleagues,
[1:17:22] they also use their power and show which side they are on. Thank you. Nancy Henderson, Kathy,
[1:17:30] Coachimoto, Tom Colton. Good afternoon. My name is Nancy Henderson, and I'm a member of the
[1:17:45] Justice Council of the First Unitarian Church of Oakland. I appreciate Supervisors Marquez and
[1:17:52] Fortuneado Bast for the work they have done in bringing these resolutions to the board.
[1:17:58] The country is living in fraught times. Ice has escalated their tactics of fear and intimidation,
[1:18:06] threats, and violence, and now murders have been committed, and the deceased are being
[1:18:12] villainized rather than memorialized by the U.S. Department of Justice. Our community is fearing the
[1:18:21] worst. Some people are afraid to go to work, to send their children to school, to patronize
[1:18:26] public shops, restaurants, services, some people are even forefitting medical care in order not to be swept
[1:18:35] up by masked men who refuse to wear identity badges. We do not need an ice detention center in
[1:18:44] Alameda County. U.S. citizens, people with status who have been following the rules have been
[1:18:50] placed in those hell holes without due process. And now they want to block Congress members from
[1:18:57] inspecting the centers without a seven day notice. Enough is enough for the safety and well-being of
[1:19:04] our communities of neighbors. I'm asking that you include language and resolutions that would block opening
[1:19:12] an iced detention center in Alameda County. Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinions here
[1:19:19] this afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you very much. Supervisor Markets. Supervisor Vos.
[1:19:36] We're uplifting these resolutions. I'm actually kind of pissed off right now so I'm going to
[1:19:43] temper my anger. I actually uplift and appreciate the resolutions that you have put forward,
[1:19:51] but there's some resolutions I think that are being unseen right now. And that's the use of artificial
[1:19:59] intelligence. I'm talking about flock. I'm talking about Palantir. I'm talking about Salurite.
[1:20:08] flock is used in this city and it crossed many cities in Alameda County to track not just pedestrians and
[1:20:16] drivers but that information is all shared with ice. Palantir is a software. It's used as a database to
[1:20:24] track people coming and going whether on and visa or their traveling and it's also shared with ice.
[1:20:35] Saludio ride is used to add your hack into people's phones so they can meet messages on signal and
[1:20:43] what's app and it's also used by ice. These also have been surveilling protesters who have been
[1:20:51] protesting against Gaza. Benzilella ice. I also share the perspectives of other people who has
[1:21:01] spoken up against having FCI Dublin open up as an ice detention facility. But many years ago,
[1:21:10] Coast Guard Island was used as an assembly center in 1942 for Japanese Americans and Japanese
[1:21:18] to assemble before they were carted away off to US concentration camps. For the sheriff's,
[1:21:24] I know this is short, but I know what your response is to what happened in Africa at Coast Guard Island.
[1:21:32] Where many of us were pepper spray. What's going to be your response to CBP who applied upon us
[1:21:40] without qualification. Thanks.
[1:21:51] Good afternoon. My name is Tom Colton. I've been a resident of Elameda County district five
[1:21:58] for 27 years and I thank supervisors, our kids and 14 out of bass for bringing forward these
[1:22:05] resolutions for proposals, especially the one for creating ice free zones in our county.
[1:22:12] I encourage the committee to ensure that no county services and no resources will go towards any form
[1:22:19] of immigration enforcement. Ice has shown a clear pattern of ignoring people's constitutional rights
[1:22:26] and using extreme violence without cause. Their actions taken initially against immigrants
[1:22:33] are being extended to those who peacefully protest their behavior. We must all speak and act to
[1:22:39] oppose this in any way we can. I urge you to think of your legacy, how the future will view
[1:22:46] your actions once this horrible time has passed, which I believe it will. I implore you to strengthen
[1:22:54] and pass these proposals. Thank you. Jane, Moses. You're on the line. You have two minutes.
[1:23:05] Good afternoon. I'm Jane Moses. I'm in District 3 and I've lived in District 3 for 10 years. I'm also a
[1:23:12] proud member of Faith and Action East Bay showing up for racial justice Bay area and the adopt
[1:23:18] a corner system. I want to ask the question of Sheriff Sanchez. Thank you very much for your
[1:23:29] presentation and your sincere concern for the citizens. I want to talk about scape. This state
[1:23:36] criminal alien assistance program federal payments of over a million dollars are being made to
[1:23:43] Alameda County last I checked that to cover the cost of correctional officer salaries for
[1:23:51] incarcerating undocumented criminal aliens with one or one felony or two misdemeanors,
[1:23:58] convictions, violations of state or local law. Given the improper and unconstitutional actions of
[1:24:07] ICE and Homeland Security, at this time will you withdraw from the scape program and figure out a way
[1:24:17] to fund your department without taking a million point two dollars on the backs of our immigrant neighbors.
[1:24:29] Thank you very much. Stephanie, you're on the line. You have two minutes.
[1:24:37] Hi. My thing is not cooperating that well. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Okay. My name is Stephanie
[1:24:50] Erickson and I am a longtime resident of Dublin. I strongly support the proposed resolution
[1:24:56] restricting the use of county owned and county controlled properties from immigration enforcement
[1:25:01] activity. I also support suggested amendment language to include county services and resources as well.
[1:25:10] I feel that we are all under constant assault by the Trump administration through its demeaning
[1:25:17] and venomous rhetoric and flagrant regard of our laws, our constitution and just basic human decency.
[1:25:28] But the most vulnerable to their, these attacks are immigrants and so it is so important to
[1:25:34] support them in every way that we can to push back by not cooperating with this deportation regime,
[1:25:42] which is violent, brutal and operates in complete disregard for due processes others have said
[1:25:48] so eloquently before me. Moreover, as a Dublin resident, I am keenly aware of the possible opening
[1:25:55] of a nice detention facility in the former federal prison there. Presently closed, but being transferred
[1:26:02] where it has already been transferred to GSA and potentially to ICE. Should that happen, you can count
[1:26:11] on a serious uptack uptick in ICE activity in the entire Bay Area and all the terrorizing of our communities
[1:26:20] that will entail. So I applaud the efforts of this committee. It's work and I wholeheartedly
[1:26:28] support both resolution. Thank you. Christopher, you're on the line. You have two minutes.
[1:26:41] Good afternoon. Supervisors, Fortunato Basin, Marquez and the Act for All Committee.
[1:26:45] Christopher Martinez with Spanish speaking citizens foundation, a core partner in a sealip.
[1:26:50] I want to begin by expressing my appreciation for the work that has gone into these proposed plans and for
[1:26:55] your leadership in moving them forward. I support the overall direction of the goals of the plans.
[1:27:02] That's the goal of the plans are seeking to achieve. It is important to prohibit county owned and county control properties
[1:27:09] from being used to facilitate our carryout immigration enforcement. It is also important that the county
[1:27:14] may ensure that none of its resources, including services and personnel are used to aid immigration
[1:27:19] enforcement. I also want to lift up and appreciate the value of your continued attention to process
[1:27:25] and ensuring that community members and key stakeholders have meaningful opportunities to engage and provide
[1:27:31] input. This will ultimately help strengthen implementation in our long-term outcomes. This is a critical moment
[1:27:38] for all people of Elameda County to speak up and take action. People have died at the
[1:27:43] hands of immigration enforcement. We honor the memories of Keith Porter and Renee Good as well
[1:27:48] as our many immigrant brothers and sisters who have died in custody and those innocents trying to
[1:27:53] get the safety from unjust enforcement actions. Our community is living in fear and under attack
[1:28:00] and we need to consider declaring a state of emergency in Elameda County. I really appreciate the
[1:28:06] board's consideration of both the urgency of the moment and the importance of inclusive and
[1:28:10] well coordinated implementation. I fully support both of these plans being put forth. Thank you so
[1:28:16] much for your leadership in these challenging times. Adrian Martinez, Heather McLeod, Jessica Beat,
[1:28:36] and I'm a member of Ace here in Elameda County. I'm here today to speak in strong
[1:28:53] supportive ice-free zones in county buildings. Fear keeps people from seeking medical care, reporting
[1:29:00] crimes and accessing services that are legally entitled to. Ice-free zones are about dignity
[1:29:05] and common sense. County building should not be places of surveillance or intimidation. They should
[1:29:11] be places of care, stability and trust. Elameda County has a responsibility to make sure it's
[1:29:17] own spaces are not used to harm the very people there. Mentors, sir. Thank you.
[1:29:28] Hello, my name is Heather McLeod. I'm a member of the Justice Council of the First Unitary
[1:29:34] and I know about the separation of church and state, but our first principle is about the inherent
[1:29:40] dignity and worth of every human being and respecting that. When I first heard about these ice-free
[1:29:49] zones, I had a visceral response like, oh my god, I hadn't even realized how intense I had to
[1:29:56] felt. I don't know a lot about history, but...
[1:30:00] To me, this seems like these are the ice agents are behaving like storm troopers.
[1:30:06] And it makes me wonder, what if Nazi Germany, the cities and counties have refused to share their resources,
[1:30:15] their buildings, their services with those people. So I just mostly want to thank you for all the work you're
[1:30:23] doing on this. I really appreciate it and it makes a difference for all of us. Thank you.
[1:30:30] I'm Jessica Beebe. I'm a resident of Alameda County District 5 and have lived in Oakland for 30 years.
[1:30:45] If a Thursday morning until I broke my ankle last week, I've been doing foot patrol to watch for ice
[1:30:50] at Esperanza KDA Elementary School. Thank you. Supervisor Niki Bass for bringing forward this proposal.
[1:30:57] I'll let me to county is in a unique position when it comes to ice. We thought there was going to be a surge in October
[1:31:04] and then ice backed off to its typical level of activity. But ice and related agencies now have a 170 billion dollar budget.
[1:31:14] That's bigger than the budget for Russia's military. And a mandate to spread their terror everywhere.
[1:31:20] And they know it's probably only a matter of time until they come back to us with another surge.
[1:31:25] Unlike many other cities, we have some extra time to feel what that reality will mean and to prepare.
[1:31:33] Ice has shown no hesitation to use violence and even to kill people, then to lie about it.
[1:31:40] They're snatching people off the streets and out of homes, schools, and churches. They're
[1:31:45] trampling on people's constitutional rights and ignoring due process completely. The parallels
[1:31:51] to Nazi Germany are chilling. Given the terror ice has brought to so many other cities and what they're
[1:31:58] doing in Minneapolis now, Elameda County must take the strongest possible stand to keep our communities safe.
[1:32:04] Let us be sure that county resources and facilities are not used in any way to facilitate the
[1:32:10] awful work of ice, CBP and DHS. I urge you to strengthen and pass this proposal to create ice
[1:32:16] resounds in Elameda County. Thank you.
[1:32:22] Catherine, you're on the line. You have two minutes.
[1:32:32] There we go. Thank you, supervisors, Marquez and Bos for bringing these
[1:32:37] proposals to the board. I am a leader of 40,000 person union at the
[1:32:46] University of California. We do the frontline work there. We know what it is to serve the
[1:32:52] public to care for them, to heal them, and we take our mission seriously. Unfortunately, so many of
[1:33:01] the people in my union represents, no but it is to be terrorized by people now on the federal payroll.
[1:33:10] That's the opposite of what this country is about. It's the opposite of what
[1:33:15] public servants should be about. We are grateful and supportive of the measures that you've
[1:33:22] brought forward today. I would just also pile on to what others have said about,
[1:33:29] blocking the opening of a nice detention center in Elameda County. We know that actually
[1:33:36] ice activity, reductions, detentions go up when there isn't nearby detention facility.
[1:33:42] So, on top of your very good work today, we would urge that you work for that as well. Thank you.
[1:33:52] One, you're on the line. You have two minutes.
[1:33:58] Hey, I'm Gwen. I'm a D.T. resident member of D.S.A. Oakland Towns Union by Resistance and Ace.
[1:34:04] I appreciate the work of the supervisors, especially my supervisor, Nikki Bass,
[1:34:09] hope I'll put into this. I think it's a good first step, especially opposing the creation of
[1:34:13] detention centers in our backyard. I hope this moves forward and encourage the board to
[1:34:20] put triggers in place so that if there is an increased ice presence in the county, we have an automatic
[1:34:25] eviction moratorium, allowing people to stay home when needed, keeping us all safer. Having already been
[1:34:32] shot up by the Coast Guard, I don't want the next Renee Nicole Good to be an Alameda County resident.
[1:34:39] Anything that discourages ice from coming here makes us all safer. Ice are thugs. Thankfully,
[1:34:45] they also seem to be lazy thugs. So, thank you for this and also, as the speaker mentioned earlier,
[1:34:53] our city's betraying us and installing cameras for ice in the form of flock is a disgrace. So,
[1:34:58] anything that county can do to discourage, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[1:35:03] Collar, you're on the line. You have two minutes?
[1:35:14] Collar, MacBook Air, Collar, you're on the line. Oh, I'm sorry. I live in Dublin, we're FCI,
[1:35:22] at the facility with a registered reputation of violence against women prisoners,
[1:35:26] as well as severe health problems caused by mold and asbestos has been closed by court order.
[1:35:31] There's no doubt in my mind that the federal government is planning to reopen it as a detention
[1:35:35] center. Under the current administration, ISIS presence in communities, particularly the blue ones,
[1:35:41] have led to violence, complete and total disregard for constitutional rights.
[1:35:45] The absence of the rule of law, political unrest, and even death. All community members are at risk,
[1:35:51] citizen, legal resident, as well as the visitor. Businesses have suffered from disruption caused by
[1:35:58] even schools have been shut down because of the fear of violence and unlawfulness caused by
[1:36:04] ISIS. I searched most in Dublin in 1979. I have watched it grow into an interesting
[1:36:08] multi-cultural city, which has remained as safe place to live. I want America to remain safe.
[1:36:14] I do not want to fear violence when I shop or hike. I do not want to be afraid to go to the
[1:36:19] grocery store because I might be tear gas or shot or the grocery store or a restaurant or disappear.
[1:36:24] I do not want any of this to happen to any person. I want to live in a safe, sane environment in
[1:36:30] which I am not afraid for anyone. I urge you to put through these policies that have been presented today
[1:36:36] as long as well as as well as a no detention in Alameda County policy. You will be supporting the
[1:36:43] city of Dublin's resolution about no detention center in Dublin, as well as sending a clear message
[1:36:49] that our community will not be complicit in brutal illegal and inhuman treatment and that we expect
[1:36:54] our government to uphold dignity, justice, and the rule of law for all people. Thank you.
[1:37:01] When Reno, Dr. Debra, Sydney Cogans.
[1:37:13] Good afternoon. My name is Gwen Reno. I'm a 30-year resident of Alameda County District 5. I want to thank
[1:37:19] you both for the committee's work. Given the violence that we're seeing in Minneapolis,
[1:37:24] it's critically important that the county put in place every possible measure to protect our neighbors
[1:37:29] before ICE deploys in force here. I've been volunteering with the adoptive school foot patrol at
[1:37:36] An Elementary School in East Oakland for the past several months to watch out for ICE,
[1:37:39] worn families and document any ISEC activity during morning drop-off. As a former teacher, I am
[1:37:47] particularly horrified by the possibility of traumatic violence being perpetrated by our own federal
[1:37:54] government in the presence of children as young as five. But all ICE assaults against our neighbors,
[1:38:00] whether they are at work at school, at church, seeking medical care, attending court appointments,
[1:38:05] or just going about their business is an affront to our values and to the rule of law.
[1:38:12] I strongly support this proposal to create ICE free zones in Alameda County and all
[1:38:17] resolutions to keep our communities safer from ICE. Thank you very much.
[1:38:21] Alberto Apara. Barley. Unstoppable. Excuse me before the next speaker speaks. Do we know how many
[1:38:31] speakers are in the queue?
[1:38:41] Okay. So we're going to go ahead and close the queue, which has been open for quite some time,
[1:38:49] so that we can get through this and delivery. Thank you.
[1:38:59] Good.
[1:39:00] Good afternoon.
[1:39:30] attention, medical assistance, and services that help us survive.
[1:39:37] The space should be safe.
[1:39:40] There should be no need to have to choose between receiving help
[1:39:45] and risk to stop your family.
[1:39:50] With great companies working in the schools,
[1:39:56] there should be no need to have any help.
[1:40:01] When your family and your family are together,
[1:40:04] they have to communicate with each other.
[1:40:07] They insist that, in order to implement
[1:40:11] the lives of children,
[1:40:14] all of the children of the world.
[1:40:23] Hello, my name is Juan
[1:40:25] I am the resident of Oakland
[1:40:29] and I am a member of ACCE
[1:40:32] in Alameda County.
[1:40:34] I speak in strong support of an ice-free
[1:40:38] zoning in county properties and buildings.
[1:40:41] For many of us, county beliefs are not optional.
[1:40:44] We come here to apply for housing help, health care,
[1:40:48] food assistance and services that help us survive.
[1:40:52] This space should be safe.
[1:40:54] No one should have to choose between getting help
[1:40:57] and risk in separation from their family.
[1:41:00] Even though I am an immigrant, my life is deeply connected
[1:41:04] to my immigrant neighbors.
[1:41:06] We are co-workers, parents at the same schools,
[1:41:09] tenants in the same buildings
[1:41:11] and elders in youth in the same communities.
[1:41:14] When immigrant families are afraid,
[1:41:17] the whole community feels it.
[1:41:19] I urge people from seeking medical care.
[1:41:23] Just the last part?
[1:41:25] I urge you to support and fully implement
[1:41:27] ice-free zones in all of Alameda County buildings.
[1:41:31] Thank you.
[1:41:40] Hello, my name is Barley Anastos.
[1:41:43] I'm also a member of ACCE, the Alliance
[1:41:45] of California's for community empowerment.
[1:41:47] I'm here in Alameda County.
[1:41:49] I'm a lifelong Oakland resident,
[1:41:51] and I'm here today to speak in support
[1:41:53] of ice-free zones in county buildings.
[1:41:55] Ice-free zones are about dignity and common sense.
[1:41:58] County buildings should not be places of surveillance
[1:42:01] or intimidation.
[1:42:02] They should be places of care, stability and trust.
[1:42:05] Alameda County has a responsibility
[1:42:07] to make sure its own spaces are not used to harm
[1:42:09] the very people that they are meant to serve.
[1:42:11] I also oppose a detention center in Dublin
[1:42:15] and I urge the county to consider further measures
[1:42:18] to protect its residents from ice.
[1:42:20] As we've seen, these officers are not well trained.
[1:42:24] They act outside of the law,
[1:42:26] and I personally am worried that they're going to go further
[1:42:28] than they already have.
[1:42:29] So again, I urge you to support
[1:42:31] and fully implement ice-free zones in all Alameda County buildings.
[1:42:34] Thank you.
[1:42:35] Grant, you're on the line.
[1:42:38] You have two minutes.
[1:42:40] Grant Thompson.
[1:42:42] Thank you very much.
[1:42:45] My name is Grant Thompson.
[1:42:47] I'm a longtime Alameda County resident
[1:42:49] in the fifth district,
[1:42:50] and I would like to express my strong support
[1:42:52] for the resolutions to create ice-free zones
[1:42:55] and create response plan.
[1:42:57] You know, I think you can see from the shared concerns
[1:43:00] you've heard from all the speakers
[1:43:02] that the community is 100% united around this.
[1:43:06] We want you to do all you can to protect it
[1:43:09] from the lawless violence of DHS and ice agents.
[1:43:14] I urge the committee and the Board of Supervisors
[1:43:17] to take any additional steps that are possible
[1:43:20] to protect Alameda County residents,
[1:43:23] including the opposing opening
[1:43:26] of the detention center in Dublin.
[1:43:29] As you know, ice and other DHS agents
[1:43:32] are terrorizing entire communities
[1:43:35] and violently attacking and disappearing people
[1:43:38] based on the color of their skin.
[1:43:40] Our county resources should not under any circumstances.
[1:43:44] And anyway, assist federal immigration agents
[1:43:47] and this racist, abhorrent behavior.
[1:43:51] I want to thank Brendan Woods for all his work
[1:43:54] and his appropriately forceful words.
[1:43:56] And last, I want to thank the committee
[1:43:58] for the work that has already done
[1:44:00] and the Board of Supervisors for the work that has already done.
[1:44:03] I'm humbled by all your efforts,
[1:44:05] and I respectfully urge you to continue them
[1:44:07] and to show courage and resolve
[1:44:09] as you stand up for your constituents and neighbors.
[1:44:12] Thank you very much.
[1:44:17] Igor, you're on the line.
[1:44:18] You have two minutes?
[1:44:20] Thank you so much.
[1:44:23] Madam Supervisors, thus and Marquez
[1:44:27] for your leadership.
[1:44:30] I want to thank you
[1:44:35] as a fellow elected official.
[1:44:39] I'll be speaking in my personal capacity
[1:44:43] not on behalf of the Berkeley City Council.
[1:44:48] My heart is heavy.
[1:44:51] My heart is heavy,
[1:44:53] and I am furious about all of the innocent lives
[1:45:00] I have been needlessly lost at the hands of ISIS, Gestapo-like tactics. I am furious of all the families
[1:45:13] that have been needlessly separated and the chaos that these tactics by the Trump administration
[1:45:24] have wrought. Clearly, the goal is more chaos and to make our communities less safe. And I am
[1:45:35] so grateful that here in this county, we have such strong leadership to do something about this.
[1:45:44] So, I, in my individual capacity, support both of these resolutions. And I want to note that
[1:45:56] the Berkeley City Council on October 28th also unanimously passed our fall to the City of Porny
[1:46:05] that is currently being evaluated limiting the use of city property and facilities for city
[1:46:11] purposes, specifically referring to immigration enforcement. Thank you so much again.
[1:46:18] My name is Marla Camilla. I live in District 5. I'm a member of Sulu Facility and Organization of
[1:46:47] Japanese Americans working to stop today's massive expansion of detention centers. We have
[1:46:53] a part of the ISAT, a double in coalition. We are here to strongly support the two resolutions
[1:46:59] introduced by supervisor for tonight's Vass. We are very grateful for your leadership and the midst of
[1:47:05] this ever escalating crisis. When my mother, father, uncles and aunts, all of the U.S. citizens,
[1:47:11] were incarcerated by the U.S. government during World War II, along with 120,000 other people
[1:47:18] of Japanese ancestry, also mostly U.S. citizens, no city or county government in California,
[1:47:25] or any other states stood up and said, this is wrong. Local leaders were complicit with their silence.
[1:47:32] They failed abysmally to rise to the challenge of their their moment. Today, multiple cities counties
[1:47:41] and counties have spoken out, set protocols, and Alameda County has provided significant funding
[1:47:47] for education and legal defense. But this crisis is escalating rapidly. There is an ongoing challenge
[1:47:55] before us, how can we do everything in our power to defend communities under attack for our own federal
[1:48:03] government and attack that violates the most basic constitutional rights of both immigrants and
[1:48:09] U.S. citizens and attack that increasingly uses and defends open violence. These two resolutions
[1:48:17] provided very concrete way for Alameda County to better protect its residents. The ISAT, a double in coalition
[1:48:24] also urges the board to strengthen this resolution to include language that ensures that every county
[1:48:31] resources, such as services and personnel are not used to aid immigration enforcement or support
[1:48:38] in a detention center in Dublin or anywhere in the county. Thank you for doing everything in your power
[1:48:45] to rise to this moment.
[1:48:47] Good afternoon, Supervisors. My name is Sonya Gochavila. I'm a program director with access
[1:49:02] reproductive justice and an Alameda County resident for 11 years. Access is a reproductive justice
[1:49:08] organization and California's only statewide abortion fund, and we first want to thank this committee
[1:49:13] for the urgency and intention behind the work you've done so far. We are in strong support of a robust
[1:49:18] response plan and in ICE free zones. We do not want county property services or employees to
[1:49:24] facilitate the work of ICE. We also echo the request to include the prohibition of the Dublin
[1:49:30] facility to be used as an ICE detention center. As well as the concerned shared earlier about the use
[1:49:35] of AIS surveillance tools such as Flock and Palantir, the same types of platforms that surveil
[1:49:40] abortion seekers in the US. Reproductive justice urges us to assert our right to save homes and
[1:49:47] communities to raise our families within and this is not possible when families are being torn apart
[1:49:53] in our communities are under terrorist surveillance and occupation from ICE. This is an obvious and
[1:49:59] cruel tactic by the authoritarian and power to sew division, violence and fear and the parallels are
[1:50:04] not lost on the communities across the globe who have been living under militant US-funded occupation
[1:50:10] from Palestine to Minneapolis just to name two. And I'm sure I am on others are wondering where we will
[1:50:19] draw the line on whether or not to intervene with ICE proceedings when the rights of people being detained by
[1:50:25] ICE are not being respected. Unlawful arrests by ICE thugs are happening every single day and we are curious
[1:50:33] how we as a community are going to prioritize public safety when people are being violently and
[1:50:38] unlawfully disappeared. So thank you again to this committee for showing us the data for your strong
[1:50:46] support and for responding to the emergency that ICE threats pose here in Alameda County. Susan. Susan
[1:50:54] went to say so. Ran Fujita Carlos Tula. Good afternoon. I'm Susan Buenso Cesar from the Philippine
[1:51:08] Advocates for justice. I am here on behalf of our organization to command and thank the providers
[1:51:16] for Tonato Bas and Marques for this effort. Our organization, our non-profit works mostly with Philippine
[1:51:25] caregivers who have been experiencing a lot of fear in the last year and this is a very sad situation.
[1:51:36] Philippine caregivers have been providing a very crucial service to residents of Alameda County
[1:51:46] giving care for the elderly and medically challenged members of our community and it is extremely
[1:51:54] sad that they have to go and hide sometimes. Some of them cannot go out of the care homes that they
[1:52:06] work at for fear of ICE presence and as such we have had to provide very personalized service
[1:52:18] to them and so this proposal comes it's a very welcome thing for us and we hope that it passes
[1:52:29] it passes through thank you very much and we wish you the best.
[1:52:43] The third is my name is Carlos Basquez. I'm a member of AC here in the condado of Alameda. I'm here
[1:52:52] to thank my wife, Apoyo, Arizona, Arizona, Arizona live of ICE. It is difficult to tell you
[1:53:04] how immigrants are accompanied from work to the same schools in 15 of the most difficult and people in the
[1:53:13] Minus communities, when families and migrant,
[1:53:17] in the middle,
[1:53:19] all the community,
[1:53:20] the people.
[1:53:22] They need to support
[1:53:25] and implement the area.
[1:53:28] The book of AIS,
[1:53:29] all the benefits of the condation of the media.
[1:53:32] Thank you.
[1:53:38] Good evening.
[1:53:40] My name is Carlos Vasquez
[1:53:41] and I'm a member of ACCE here in Alameda County.
[1:53:45] I'm here today to speak in strong support
[1:53:48] of the AIS-free sorens in county buildings.
[1:53:53] Even though, as an immigrant,
[1:53:55] my life is deeply connected to my immigrant neighbors.
[1:53:58] We are co-workers, parents at the same school
[1:54:01] as tenants in the same buildings and elders
[1:54:04] and youth in the same communities.
[1:54:06] When immigrant families are afraid,
[1:54:08] the whole community feels it.
[1:54:11] I urge you to support
[1:54:14] and fully implement the AIS-free sorens
[1:54:16] in all of the Alameda County buildings.
[1:54:19] Thank you.
[1:54:22] David Motorsfock,
[1:54:24] Iris Barraera,
[1:54:27] Diego Villegas.
[1:54:31] Hi, I'm David Motorsbock.
[1:54:33] As a county resident,
[1:54:35] as a fellow Alameda County staffer,
[1:54:38] I just want to say thanks to you all
[1:54:40] for the work that you're doing.
[1:54:42] Your leadership, as a county staffer,
[1:54:44] your leadership is super important
[1:54:46] and critical in the role
[1:54:48] and the work that you do is super important.
[1:54:50] A couple requests first.
[1:54:54] When you are itemizing all of the lists of places
[1:54:58] of vulnerable locations,
[1:55:00] possible staging grounds,
[1:55:02] keep in mind that its citizens and community members
[1:55:06] are the first line of defense against
[1:55:09] ICE incursions.
[1:55:10] If we get access to those lists of
[1:55:14] addresses and locations and facilities,
[1:55:17] that can really help communities
[1:55:19] in their organizing and their planning and their defense.
[1:55:22] If we know that ICE is not going to be protected
[1:55:26] by law enforcement here,
[1:55:28] we saw that at Coast Guard Island.
[1:55:30] When the only law enforcement that was protecting ICE
[1:55:32] was California Highway Patrol,
[1:55:34] it was that was really refreshing.
[1:55:36] We want to continue to see that.
[1:55:38] Second thing is that it sounds like we need
[1:55:41] to hear from Alameda Health System
[1:55:43] in these meetings.
[1:55:47] And kind of learn what's going on.
[1:55:50] A lot is going on in our hospitals.
[1:55:53] And it's really, really important
[1:55:55] that are emergency rooms in our hospitals
[1:55:57] that those are safe places.
[1:56:00] And I highly recommend that you bring
[1:56:02] leadership of AHS and frontline staff from AHS
[1:56:06] to talk to the public about what their plans
[1:56:09] are, what their organizing is,
[1:56:11] and how they're prepared to defend
[1:56:13] the most vulnerable people in Alameda County
[1:56:15] in hospital in the hospital system.
[1:56:17] Thank you.
[1:56:18] Thank you.
[1:56:19] Thank you.
[1:56:24] Good afternoon, supervisors.
[1:56:26] My name is Edis,
[1:56:27] and part of Travahalaris,
[1:56:28] one of those workers united.
[1:56:30] You're in the Bay Area,
[1:56:31] and are part of Agulite,
[1:56:32] and I sort of Dublin.
[1:56:34] I want to thank you both and your staff
[1:56:36] for working with community.
[1:56:38] And various departments to spearhead
[1:56:41] and bring forward these two proposals
[1:56:43] of having an ice-free zone
[1:56:45] as well as a response plan for
[1:56:47] immigration activities to protect
[1:56:49] our communities during these dire times
[1:56:51] and fully support both of these proposals.
[1:56:54] Less than a month ago,
[1:56:55] I was out in Dublin in support
[1:56:57] of the recent resolution that passed
[1:56:59] where the city of Dublin
[1:57:01] and its residents made it clear
[1:57:03] and taking a public stance
[1:57:05] that an ice-attention center is not welcomed.
[1:57:07] Residents of Dublin understand
[1:57:09] and Alameda County residents understand
[1:57:11] that ice-presents traumatized
[1:57:13] traumatizes our its residents
[1:57:15] who are our neighbors.
[1:57:17] Seeing our communities being kidnapped
[1:57:19] from the courts,
[1:57:20] being kidnapped from the streets
[1:57:22] and from their homes is criminal.
[1:57:24] This is not normal.
[1:57:25] We cannot make this our normal.
[1:57:27] I have spoken with many residents
[1:57:29] through Alameda County
[1:57:31] while door knocking,
[1:57:32] sharing about resources,
[1:57:33] work with rights,
[1:57:34] constitutional rights,
[1:57:35] and it was a bittersweet experience
[1:57:37] hearing how our communities
[1:57:39] are scared during these moments.
[1:57:41] Parents not taking their children
[1:57:44] to school.
[1:57:45] Workers not showing up to work
[1:57:47] and have felt scared to go out of their homes.
[1:57:51] Even in the face of fear and trauma,
[1:57:55] our communities are not losing hope
[1:57:57] that collectively we can
[1:57:59] shift these terrible conditions
[1:58:01] if we collectively take a stance
[1:58:03] and organize.
[1:58:04] This includes the need
[1:58:05] of our local government to take action
[1:58:07] and we really appreciate
[1:58:09] y'all's leadership
[1:58:10] and moving these two proposals forward
[1:58:12] and really encourage the committee
[1:58:14] as well to ensure that county services
[1:58:16] and resources will not go towards
[1:58:18] the form of immigration enforcement.
[1:58:20] Thank you.
[1:58:27] Hello.
[1:58:28] Hello.
[1:58:29] My name is Diego Villegas Aguilar.
[1:58:31] I'm an organizer
[1:58:32] as well in Trabajadores Unidos.
[1:58:34] Workers united
[1:58:35] and I'm here in support
[1:58:36] of the ice free zones.
[1:58:38] Just to acknowledge that
[1:58:40] people has been murdered.
[1:58:42] Families have been separated.
[1:58:44] People have been deported.
[1:58:46] And I ask myself,
[1:58:48] and who is going to be next?
[1:58:50] Is somebody here in this room going to be next?
[1:58:52] Am I going to be next?
[1:58:54] And nobody knows.
[1:58:56] Nobody knows that answer.
[1:58:57] And what I do know is that
[1:58:59] helicopters and people are not going
[1:59:01] to be perpetuating into this country
[1:59:03] to solve the problem.
[1:59:05] So who are we waiting for?
[1:59:08] Who is going to solve this issue
[1:59:10] when, honestly, only ourselves
[1:59:12] are going to save ourselves
[1:59:15] from what is happening.
[1:59:16] And it is the historical responsibility
[1:59:19] that we all have
[1:59:21] with the privilege of being in this country,
[1:59:23] with the privilege of existing
[1:59:25] in this country.
[1:59:26] We have that ability to change it
[1:59:28] from within.
[1:59:29] So I would like to ask
[1:59:31] who are we waiting for
[1:59:32] and what are we waiting for
[1:59:34] to do that change.
[1:59:35] And that's why
[1:59:37] I'm acknowledging I am very
[1:59:39] applauding of the efforts
[1:59:41] here in this chamber today.
[1:59:43] And thank you very much.
[1:59:45] I'm so excited for all your efforts.
[1:59:47] Valerie, bachelor,
[1:59:51] wacene, and then April
[1:59:53] Newman, last three speakers.
[2:00:00] Hello, supervisors, Marquez and supervisors bass. I really appreciate your leadership on this, and as the AST Director and the Vice President of the Oakland Unified School Board, I stand in complete support of both proposals.
[2:00:15] For many of our immigrant families, county buildings are not an option. They are an necessity. They are there to support folks in finding housing, finding healthcare, food assistance, services they might need to survive and library books for students.
[2:00:29] That may need that are looking to support themselves in their education. These spaces must be safe, and you all are leading the way and making sure that these spaces are safe. So thank you.
[2:00:40] Now to your other colleagues, because I believe this is going to go to the full county board, we need the entire county to stand and support of these measures.
[2:00:50] We need to make sure that every single nook and cranny of our county is supportive of our immigrant families, because every single nook and cranny has immigrant families.
[2:01:02] And reminding the community, the budget of the HS has soared because of what?
[2:01:09] Because they have taken food away from children, they have taken healthcare away from Americans, they have taken housing away from people.
[2:01:17] This is not how we do things in Alameda County, and I'm so excited to know that both of you are champions on this issue, and I want to make sure that the rest of the board understands the importance of this issue and takes it on and make sure that we vote as a five person body to make sure that the entire county has these safe spaces for our community.
[2:01:38] And lastly, I would like to appreciate the two folks that spoke up earlier to say that they were community patrollers.
[2:01:45] Our community has come out in force when our schools are under attack.
[2:01:49] And Hoover Elementary, when DHS tried to detain and deport someone 300 members of our community showed up that day to support our students feeling safe.
[2:01:59] So thank you for the work that you do every day, and I encourage every single one of us in our community to do that work as well.
[2:02:05] Thank you.
[2:02:06] Hello, supervisors.
[2:02:16] Mark has in bass.
[2:02:18] My name is Alasima.
[2:02:19] I'm an organizer with the Air Resource and Organizing Center, A Rock, and the resident of District 3.
[2:02:25] As a partner organization of Akudir, A Rock has been hard at work organizing our Arab and Muslim communities in response to the ongoing ice attacks and
[2:02:34] kidnappings in the Bay Area.
[2:02:37] Recently, we've seen the Trump admin target Muslim Somali communities in Minneapolis leading to the explosion of violence by ice in that city.
[2:02:48] We've seen shootings and kidnappings across the country that represent human trafficking at a mass scale by the government.
[2:02:59] Our Arab and Muslim communities here, who share so much in common with those communities in Minneapolis that were targeted, are now afraid that they are next.
[2:03:09] Folks are afraid to leave their homes, they're confused, they're afraid to travel, they're afraid to go to work.
[2:03:15] And if ice does proceed with mass enforcement in the Bay Area, any one of us can be made a target regardless of whether we have citizenship or not.
[2:03:24] But our immigrant communities will feel the impact of those attacks first.
[2:03:29] We must be prepared as a county to protect ourselves at the level of community organizing and at the level of county policy, and this is a strong first step.
[2:03:38] We thank this committee for advancing the ice free legislation to limit ice access to our communities and we support you all as we continue the fight to ensure no county resources support ice activity in the Bay.
[2:03:52] Including the Planetation Center in Dublin.
[2:03:55] As we move forward, we also need to ensure that Alameda County does not criminalize community members and protesters for self defense against ice kidnappings and killings.
[2:04:05] And you ensure that community resources are allocated towards community education and community defense.
[2:04:11] Let's work together and get your legislation passed. Thank you.
[2:04:23] Good afternoon, supervisors. My name is April Newman.
[2:04:26] I'm the program manager for the Alameda County collaborative for removal defense or a court.
[2:04:31] But at base at the Anchor organization, CCIJ, member of the I set of Dublin coalition and a resident of district five.
[2:04:39] These groups and I personally strongly support ice free zones and immigration enforcement response plan resolutions that you're proposing.
[2:04:47] Thank you for bringing them forward.
[2:04:50] With the county support, a court has been working hard to support people through their immigration processes.
[2:04:55] Defending them against separation, detention, and deportation.
[2:04:59] We've been coordinating with Akudir to reach more people and support those with loved ones who who's loved ones have been detained or deported.
[2:05:09] We also coordinate with a ceilap who are first cases to ask once a person is put in an ice detention facility.
[2:05:17] We also know that our community safety and stability require coordination among all of us individual residents community organization service providers and public entities.
[2:05:33] It's going to take all of us.
[2:05:35] We appreciate your collaboration and drive to continue to strengthen protections for our community members.
[2:05:40] Time and time again, we've seen that ice, CBP and other DHS agencies will use any opening they find or perceive to terrorize our communities and can map our neighbors.
[2:05:51] Frankly, we know that they disrespect the rule of law and disregard legality entirely.
[2:05:56] So the stronger the language of these resolutions that the county can adopt the better.
[2:06:04] We'd like to suggest two points.
[2:06:06] One, the inclusion of resources like services and personnel in addition to land and physical property in the ice free zones resolution.
[2:06:16] We want to make sure that county resources are used to support the well-being of our county residents and they're not common deared for the use in federal immigration activity.
[2:06:25] Two is to be clear to prohibit the use of county resources to facilitate or carry out any immigration enforcement regardless of where in the county it takes place.
[2:06:35] In other words, we do not want any county services or human resources to aid immigration enforcement anywhere in the county.
[2:06:45] Thank you for considering our concerns and in fact, suggestions.
[2:06:50] There are no more speakers.
[2:06:56] There are no more speakers on this one.
[2:07:00] Thank you so much everyone for your participation.
[2:07:04] It's been really helpful to hear from our department heads as well as all of you as members of the public really appreciate that.
[2:07:13] I do want to make some comments on what came up through our public comment process as well as offer up a motion.
[2:07:23] Before I do that, I do want to see whether there's any comments that's far having heard public comment from our department heads who are present or from our vice chair.
[2:07:38] Thank you. I just have one question for director Gassaway.
[2:07:42] In terms of the federal facility in Dublin, do we own that land? Is that being leased?
[2:07:51] What's the status?
[2:07:54] It's a federal property. It's not a county property.
[2:07:57] Okay.
[2:07:58] But we do manage the infrastructure in terms of water connection.
[2:08:04] So nothing.
[2:08:06] Okay. Thank you.
[2:08:10] Thank you. And two are department directors who are here.
[2:08:14] Are there any final words or comments that you want to share after hearing from the public?
[2:08:22] Okay.
[2:08:24] So again, thank you everyone for sharing your comments.
[2:08:29] Definitely if appreciate hearing your reactions, your suggestions as well.
[2:08:36] I do want to acknowledge that we were able.
[2:08:39] My office was able to work with our county council.
[2:08:42] And so thank you to our assistant county council.
[2:08:45] Samantha Stonewall Han, who was here today, who was able to review the legislation and give us feedback.
[2:08:52] So we have been able to incorporate back from county council.
[2:08:56] And it's been approved as to form.
[2:09:00] I definitely heard all of the additional suggestions and do want to work further with county council to see what we may be able to incorporate.
[2:09:12] You know, I did hear the very specific requests around resources around FCI Dublin.
[2:09:18] One question for you, our assistant county council.
[2:09:23] Is it possible within the existing ice-free zones resolution to include a statement of the board expressing opposition to FCI Dublin becoming an immigration detention facility?
[2:09:43] Samantha Stonewall Han assistant county council.
[2:09:46] If you wanted to do a policy statement about whether you oppose a detention center, but it wouldn't be part of the policy itself.
[2:09:57] I don't believe.
[2:09:58] Because we don't have any authority over that property.
[2:10:00] It's federal property for the county council authority.
[2:10:05] Okay, that's helpful to hear.
[2:10:08] I have joined you all at a protest opposing in a detention center at FCI Dublin and find a petition as such.
[2:10:17] I don't know if my colleague has as well, but in terms of a policy statement, I certainly would be interested in expressing that if our colleagues on the board agree with that.
[2:10:30] I also wanted to acknowledge the comment about the scap program.
[2:10:36] I've had a conversation. It's been some months ago with the sheriff and her staff about that program.
[2:10:42] I am hoping that we can no longer be a part of it.
[2:10:47] And I understand the sheriff is able to come to us, perhaps the next meeting to share some updates on that program and our relationship to it.
[2:10:56] So that is certainly something that I am willing to continue working on and we can provide an update at the subsequent meeting.
[2:11:06] All right, in terms of moving forward.
[2:11:09] Thank you again to everyone who worked with me and my office on both the response plan and the ice resones policy as well as those who participated in our November hearing.
[2:11:21] I would like to move forward a motion for this committee to advance the response plan and the ice resones policy.
[2:11:31] To the full board at our next meeting on January 27.
[2:11:36] And the direction would be similar to what is in the meeting packet and on the slides that we shared.
[2:11:45] I do want to highlight some very specific things that I think are important and maybe I'll just read the sound loud so it's clear for the record.
[2:11:54] So the motion is to move forward to the Board of Supervisors meeting on January 27, the response plan for immigration enforcement.
[2:12:02] A direct the county administrator to create a response plan for immigration enforcement activity.
[2:12:08] Including convening a including convening public safety agencies and convening an interagency meeting among all relative.
[2:12:18] Relevant agencies and departments and I'll just sort of expand here that given what I heard from department heads as I was talking with them one on one as well as the comments today.
[2:12:31] There's a need for unified training unified reporting and communications and even some scenario planning or practice certainly October's.
[2:12:41] Scare was that but we need to make sure that as a county in addition to the work in departments we're working across the county.
[2:12:51] I also would like to see collaboration with AC health equity department and the county administrators equity department and that is because.
[2:13:02] Immigrants and we have refugees are clearly being targeted and even those who might appear to be immigrants or refugees are being targeted there is clearly racial profiling so I believe our equity departments would be able to contribute to this discussion.
[2:13:17] And I also think our partner should be engaged we did have a joint meeting with Alameda health systems however there's probably more that needs to happen as the response plan is developed to ensure across our county health system.
[2:13:31] There's a clear understanding and uniformity around how we're addressing nice enforcement so that's just providing a little bit of detail to that first piece.
[2:13:42] We're currently regarding the response plan direct the county administrator to bring forward the response plan for immigration enforcement activity for the boards consideration at the next board meeting after we approve it.
[2:13:56] So that's the first piece of the motion.
[2:13:58] Second piece of the motion is adopting a risk is regarding ice free zones adopting a resolution that restricts the use of county owned and county controlled properties for immigration enforcement activity.
[2:14:10] And directs the county administrator to implement the resolution effective immediately and I think it would be appropriate at our next act meeting after the full board.
[2:14:20] I approve this to hear a progress report.
[2:14:25] And in addition I am interested if my colleague is in looking into whether we can incorporate a position opposing FCI Dublin being used for immigration detention as we consult with our county council.
[2:14:42] That was a lot but again the motion is to bring to the full board on January 27th our immigration enforcement response plan and our ice reasons policy for the full boards consideration and hopefully approval.
[2:14:57] I'm happy to second I think within the motion we should.
[2:15:00] Also, respectfully ask that this be a set matter on the agenda because I'm sure it's going to initiate a lot of community engagement.
[2:15:09] The only thing that I'm not clear about is want to be clear on the steps.
[2:15:15] So you'll be advancing a board letter along with the resolutions that will come to our next meeting of the full board of supervisors on January 27.
[2:15:24] I'm hoping that it passes, we let me ask County Council with this require majority vote, not a four fifths correct.
[2:15:33] Okay, so majority vote, so I hope in that it advances, but I wasn't clear on the next touch point.
[2:15:40] If you wanted the plan to be brought back by the next regular meeting, which would be February, do we know the date?
[2:15:51] So we can certainly adjust.
[2:15:54] That's the only thing I want to just, I know this has been on people's radar, but also this was the first opportunity to have GSA as well as our justice partners here, so publicly just being clear that's the timeline we're shooting for just want to flag that there may be some pushback on that that's a really quick turnaround, but I fully acknowledge the urgency.
[2:16:17] And with respect to a policy statement opposing the Dublin facility becoming a detention center, I would also like to hear back from County Council on a later date, but the best pathway to bring that forward, definitely support that some may be at our next.
[2:16:35] Act committee meeting, we can have an update on what that process would look like.
[2:16:39] That way we're ensuring we're tracking all these touch points.
[2:16:44] And just further clarify the timeline.
[2:16:47] So by adopting this motion, we would move forward these two policies to our January 27th board meeting, and I'll request that it be a set matter.
[2:16:58] Assuming we get at least three votes, then what would happen is that the response plan.
[2:17:07] The administrator would convene as we direct and the next board meeting is February 10th actually because we have a work session the prior week.
[2:17:17] And there's a lot of work already happening on response plans, it's just that it's department by department rather than across the entire agency.
[2:17:27] So we come back to the February 10th board meeting with an update on the response plan, and then we come to the next act for all meeting for update on the implementation of the ice reasons.
[2:17:44] Can how we advance a position with respect to opposing the detention center.
[2:17:49] Correct, correct.
[2:17:51] In particular, if we are not able to include a policy statement in the ice free zones resolution, we will certainly come back to that.
[2:18:00] I think it's good to have a placeholder.
[2:18:03] Yes, okay.
[2:18:04] So that will be part of our next act for all meeting, which we do need to confirm that it would be the fifth of February.
[2:18:12] That'd be a worry that's on our agenda now, but we'll make sure we reconfirm that.
[2:18:16] Okay.
[2:18:17] I'm happy to second.
[2:18:18] Okay, and that's.
[2:18:19] Thank you.
[2:18:21] Madam question, you please call the roll.
[2:18:24] Supervisor Merckas.
[2:18:26] Supervisor for it's not a bass.
[2:18:28] I motion pass.
[2:18:29] Okay.
[2:18:34] Thank you everyone and so please come to our January 27th board meeting and our next acts for all meeting will be on February.
[2:18:41] We'll be on February 5th at 3 p.m.
[2:18:48] And are there any members of the public who wish to comment on items not on the agenda?
[2:18:55] Okay.
[2:18:56] No public comment.
[2:18:57] Thank you.
[2:18:58] In that case, the meeting is adjourned.
[2:19:00] Thank you everyone.