[0:04] Okay, we're going to call and give you an order, and let me actually switch off the seats. Can you sit here?

[0:16] All of my, obviously, it shows that she's muted.

[0:24] I can't unmute you. It's on your end.

[0:40] Hi there, are you meeting to hear from me?

[0:43] Well, I just think it's sure you could actually unmute.

[0:45] I just had a technical issue.

[0:47] All right.

[0:48] Can you hear me okay because I could hear you really well, and now all of a sudden you're very very muted

[0:53] No, I hear you're just fine. Okay, great

[0:58] I

[1:00] first I have opted to approve the maths for me on April 2nd

[1:05] I will live you do then. I second that all fair

[1:09] I

[1:11] Next is how public comment for anything not on the agenda

[1:17] Yeah, so I've actually got three things. Sorry I've been that.

[1:20] Alright, so first it is I just wanted to acknowledge we had,

[1:26] so we're getting ready to do some work on both the center school

[1:33] and public school this year.

[1:37] So the very first thing that we did last Saturday,

[1:40] we had some volunteers out.

[1:42] did a knee-jure cleanup on the inside and build a pickup truck that went off of the transfer

[1:49] station. So the inside is looking better than it has in years. Nice to be in May. We'll have

[1:57] some exterior repairs done on center school and on pullback and that will all happen. So that

[2:07] the exterior is going to be a good shipment for the painting that will happen. This is supposed

[2:11] have it in June. So that's thing number one. The number two, I just wanted to let everybody know

[2:19] that last week after we got permits called SELD. We actually signed have a tenant, a sign,

[2:29] lease, or the head type store. So we will have a new business starting at the head type store.

[2:41] first part of June is kind of the nominal opening date and it's going to be kind of a core

[2:50] business and is going to be in chiefs and coal versions for maybe some other things going

[2:57] on.

[2:58] But the book, Jocelyn, I have a white field is doing that and she's a kind of favorite

[3:05] So that's kind of an exciting development.

[3:10] And the last thing that I wanted to mention was just that last Wednesday, we had our annual meeting of the Lincoln County Regional Planning Commission.

[3:30] Sherry here in Karen Rose, who Sherry is a member of almost climate action committee, Karen Rose is the chair.

[3:43] I was there just because I'm a board member of regional planning commission.

[3:48] And the regional planning commission just recognized all of us.

[3:53] I'm sorry, the Result Bank Commission just recognized all this climate action committee for kind of, you know,

[4:05] noteworthy accomplishments in work that had done getting the solar panels installed on fire station, setting up an implementing the battery landing program,

[4:18] which has just been very, it's just been obvious, and there's been just a fully

[4:26] amount of literature in that across the state that's came to the

[4:30] occasion in a number of other communities, and so yeah, that almost

[4:36] finer action can be, and again, it's a nice shout out there, so that's

[4:41] those are the third things.

[4:43] All right, everybody else?

[4:46] We're paddling those over the other day.

[4:48] And that we noticed that informational panels on the van are again some kind of weather

[4:54] worn.

[4:55] They were put up when we reached the dam.

[4:58] I would offer to clean them out there and they were designed so that you can take a

[5:02] flexible ass off and clean underneath.

[5:05] I wanted to check for us before doing that.

[5:08] If I think you're on a clean up, then ourself out the day, then that's right.

[5:14] So probably anybody else, I know Croatia has something right here up.

[5:24] Okay, great.

[5:25] First, I get so much time as I can't quite remember if I recognized those folks that participated with the community cleanup to celebrate Earth's months.

[5:36] And I just wanted to thank everyone who came out and brought their redemption items and trash.

[5:43] And we had doubles participation this year. Then we had last year.

[5:49] So again, I think we did great. The weather was wonderful.

[5:53] And another shout out to Dave's disposal and to aim supply for the donated items and time from Dave and the canister that he lent.

[6:06] to us. And then I also just wanted to give an update on the results of the Ask Grant through

[6:14] the Lincoln County Regional Planning Commission and that was a success. So we have been

[6:21] granted an additional $5,000 for ongoing work with non-lethal beaver management, which is a

[6:39] In the moment,

[6:43] all right, then that will close, follow the comment and we'll put the

[6:48] webinar in for our presentation.

[6:50] If you give me a second, I'll start trying to get here to show you about

[6:58] five or six

[6:59] print copies of the same thing, that's the thing that goes into the

[7:09] book, with most of it,

[7:10] for me, it's just a list of the same.

[7:12] I figured that much, I think it's a little bit more expensive.

[7:15] Yes.

[7:41] We're going to talk to you.

[7:43] What do you think?

[7:45] Can I get you a name for my notes?

[7:47] Sure.

[7:48] Good.

[7:49] Go ahead.

[7:51] Whatever you're comfortable with.

[7:52] All right.

[7:53] Well, I'll start sort of down if I stay there.

[7:55] My name is Jason Blamontain.

[7:57] OK.

[7:58] I know that wherever it's your pretend at the very Louisiana,

[8:02] and also on the board of directors.

[8:07] And I guess, in regard to the disclosure,

[8:11] They have two other important numbers here with us tonight and we need to take this house fee to that kind of an interval for residents of all that.

[8:18] No, we'll provide them back.

[8:22] Okay.

[8:23] We're just been coming to all that.

[8:24] Or did the railroads until about 15 years old.

[8:27] Uh, 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13.

[8:34] Okay.

[8:35] So, just for the sake of an overview for everyone.

[8:41] The original railroad ran from 1894 to 1933, but really the point we wanted to make or this first slide is these narrow gauge railroads in Maine were really here at our community service.

[8:57] There were vital lightplines for these towns back in the day.

[9:01] You know, I have some notes here at what they call, but one of the most interesting history nuggets we've

[9:07] passed on one is that this where I would call a school case to his cast in a peaceful, it is really a part of the community.

[9:16] And that is a major aspect that we want to reflect on what we do to the fact that we want to be a part of the community and serve it.

[9:26] So, if you scroll down a little bit on the same first slide,

[9:31] We were found in the United States 89, our mission is to preserve and restore the operation

[9:37] of Chiefs' families, and our VHR, the mission is that open-ended, very personal, a founder

[9:44] had great ideas of constructing all the way up through the valley.

[9:50] We are a bit more practical in the institution today, but we still do have big dreams.

[9:56] And as mentioned, we wish to serve the community as the data hundred years ago, we're not quite in the same way.

[10:05] You've decided to just need to navigate wherever we're looking used to.

[10:09] But we do want to highlight the idea that we are a transportation service, and we'd like to bring people to other culturally enriching activities in town.

[10:20] So we have activities that are all the center station location and at the farm with your partnership and the customer service team.

[10:29] And the idea is that we don't want or need the train to be the centerpiece that the train can blend into other activities which are interesting to the people and to us.

[10:41] So, we go to three to have miles for reconstructed at present.

[10:46] It has most people down from crossroads to wherever we used to cross to 18 in their entire time.

[10:53] So, let's go.

[10:58] Okay, so introducing our new project, our new drainage service peak.

[11:05] We have the idea that we would like to reconstruct an additional two miles south across

[11:11] road. Well, the purpose of building a passenger station nearly all over this

[11:17] past town line. And to expand on what's written a little bit, we have several

[11:22] reasons for wanting to do that. One of them is to get the parking of guests

[11:29] further out of, you know, awake in the center of town, off the crossroad. On to a

[11:34] better design parking lots. We want to better design and passenger facility.

[11:38] You know, we do have intentions of refining the look of our chief

[11:43] gestation site. However, it's always going to have a rail yard

[11:47] field and for the average family, broadening the trains that say the farm.

[11:53] We desire a more reference interface for those folks.

[11:58] So that's the big idea and I will say that that is a for us a very big long-term idea.

[12:05] there's a lot of decisions and unknowns and factors to work for and at the rate we work

[12:14] or measure in this large bowl in many and years. This is not so. However, everything needs to be broken

[12:22] down into baby steps. So the proposal that we're putting together this year is to, for a segment

[12:31] of that large dream, which is what we call the Southern Big Way, and that is to cross the public

[12:38] road and to build approximately quarter mile south on the original road that, and several

[12:46] immediate advantages of that, one of the most major, that we have a slice on, is developing a

[12:54] full relationship with the Federal Railroad Administration. Right now, we have been a communication

[12:59] with that RA, they are interested in many of our activities they've worked with us as we developed

[13:06] several of our projects but they had no official oversight right now and we want to formalize that.

[13:13] Right now the only oversight we have of our rail safety is limited to our steam locomotive

[13:20] who's by the state of Maine in the upper right would come in and take that over and extend regulatory supervision over a number of other parts of our operation.

[13:34] We also would have seen media benefits to pedestrian and train congestion as chief gestation, particularly when we're operating two trains for our larger events.

[13:44] And that's really a matter of how we two trains, two passenger trains, access our sheet

[13:50] constation platform, and, you know, in a short period of time between local train's access

[13:57] to the platform.

[13:58] It's quite a major help right now.

[14:00] We end up having to schedule trains to avoid that particular operation.

[14:09] We have to train to meet elsewhere.

[14:10] And if it limits us on optimizing the service for operating to the public, so that's the major aspect of it.

[14:18] And you know, the other one's a point now in terms of why I originally put a mile now versus maybe about between miles.

[14:24] This is very in a slice, permanently choke that we're both going to do now.

[14:30] It is the standard of railroad.

[14:33] on a risk level that is through an environmentally sensitive area for a number of reasons.

[14:40] And it lets us focus on that very, very carefully.

[14:44] So, let's scroll in.

[14:51] Okay, so I was just an overview of some of the details of the project.

[14:56] And this is pretty light on details.

[14:58] This will be...

[15:01] We have more ideas behind this, but this will be further presented to the public at any point meetings.

[15:06] And we're certainly open to any questions tonight or any time.

[15:10] Anyone has questions for our ideas.

[15:13] But what we're trying to show at the end of the year is there is the original roadbed,

[15:20] goes through quite an extended length of wetland on both sides.

[15:26] The roadbed itself is obligated about the wetland.

[15:29] The roadmap itself is not wetland and after talking to the GDP, they've already performed

[15:36] the same visit last fall.

[15:38] The idea is to basically structure our roadmap improvements to prohibit any alteration of

[15:46] the wetland.

[15:47] We don't want any of our ballots or track materials, anything's filling out over.

[15:53] So the idea after going for a number of different possibilities is to basically build bolder wall

[15:59] the stem each shoulder, before transitions from offline to wetland, and those bolder walls

[16:06] will contain our entire group into the road that itself.

[16:12] That was originally recommended by D&T, and then we have some civil professional civil engineers

[16:18] helping us work through the details of that.

[16:20] there was some other monitoring civil engineering methods we're going to use to further assure that

[16:26] that the road that is self-contained can't push out due to the level. So, for keeping it well

[16:32] contains,

[16:36] really have a slice that I can remind myself of,

[16:43] follows the appropriate, okay?

[16:51] Okay, so just to overview of the agencies that we identified that we need permissions

[16:58] and permits from to this process, let's take a look at all the planning board for a

[17:03] on a zoning permit and for a bluntly permit.

[17:08] We have done a meeting somewhere to this with the planning board last fall,

[17:13] and that was just prior to the site visit.

[17:16] So now we're in the process of working with DEP, refining our plans.

[17:22] We haven't wait until this kind of year for a professional well-indulation

[17:26] in preferable assessment and those are now underway.

[17:30] So, those are in the D.P.

[17:36] We're going to require an RPA permit

[17:39] for the activities adjacent to the marsh and the stream.

[17:43] And at present, that's looking like an individual permit.

[17:47] The D.P.'s indicated they may reduce that to a tier 1 or tier 2 permit,

[17:53] but they weren't sure.

[17:54] And it's all awaiting the well-indulation report.

[17:58] So does our pay national resource protection act?

[18:05] That's the law that governs all of these concerns from the perspective of the DEP.

[18:12] I so if you're within a certain distance, it's very similar to the Australian,

[18:15] except as the DEP side of it.

[18:18] If you're within a certain distance from a protected resource,

[18:21] then there are requirements that you have to meet.

[18:22] There's tears of a part of it.

[18:25] In our report of engineers, hairless, whenever you touch the water, the year activity, and there are a couple limited instances where we're going to touch the water, we're proposed to touch the water, and we have to replace three existing culverts, which should be a little concerns about replace when in kind, this is generally accepted.

[18:46] But there is a segment where the stream is alongside the railroad bed and it does that for maybe a hundred and fifty litre of feet and out of that is about ten feet worse just starting to eat in the railroad bed.

[19:00] So we discussed with the DEP, the idea of reinforcing that commitment to that would be included in all of the permanent applications to all of the preshylians and the PDP and all of the DEP.

[19:13] as well as to have to approve it.

[19:17] So, the DOT is the official legal entity that has to approve or deny the railroad permissions

[19:26] across the public way, and SL line in the state statutes.

[19:31] So we've been in touch with DOT and submitted our full petition to the public way, and to give

[19:39] a little idea of that process. The law requires them to hold a public hearing in the talent that

[19:47] the process is proposed. In that way, the talent of all of that, and his residents will be

[19:52] inherently included in that process. And that will occur sort of independently of the other

[20:02] on their timeline and if they grant permission to cross the road then that permission just sort of hangs there while we go through the process of the other current applications.

[20:16] If they do approve it then it's up to them to dictate the level of process and protection required.

[20:22] So, whether we have prospects or clusters or dates, that's actually legally up to MDOT to dictate.

[20:31] However, they take a starting recommendation from the railroad, and we have all the table proposal for bushes.

[20:39] That's our proposal at the moment.

[20:41] The best part of the conversation is that I said, we'll include this hand at some point.

[20:46] The Federal Railway Administration, which will assume the role of inspecting a sort of safety,

[20:54] that's a little bit odd because that's going to officially,

[20:59] it doesn't take place until we have across the road.

[21:02] So that's going to be a conversation with the VFRA before that time,

[21:06] so that they're coming in and we're ranking up slow with the process of the VFRA.

[21:12] We've taken several steps that we feel are demonstrate our best effort to be environmentally

[21:18] conscious.

[21:20] We do not use pre-subtimes, we haven't in many, many years.

[21:24] In the early years of the museum, we had donated pre-subtimes, there was someone there

[21:28] right now, but we're painting them out, and right now these are the green CCA, rest of the

[21:36] treated, it's the same kind of pressure treatment you've had at home people.

[21:39] So, we use some ballast as opposed to gravel ballast, and I don't want that to be too misleading.

[21:47] We're not using stone ballast purely because it's environmentally congested, it preserves

[21:51] high life.

[21:52] It's sort of a modern way to handle railroad ballast, but it certainly does not wash like

[21:59] gravel used to.

[22:00] So that stays contained in our road that much more readily even what the railroad used to

[22:04] use.

[22:06] And, you know, we've had some conservatives

[22:08] for us about running pools, so I had light of this.

[22:11] We have had rural pools within proximity

[22:16] of our previous projects, the extension projects,

[22:20] and we have engaged the DEP to handle this properly,

[22:25] which is to say that you engage the DEP

[22:28] or a licensed professional to come.

[22:30] Assess the rental pool to determine whether it's significant. And if the rental pool is considered significant, then there are very specific requirements that you have to meet to do any activity adjacent to the rental pool.

[22:44] So there was the photograph here as a broad bridge, which we built a few years ago here at the other end of 10.

[22:53] And just beyond out of view from this photograph, there was the board of the pool that ended up being significant.

[23:00] And that was assessed in cooperation with Minkhouse Presidency, because the pool was in both properties.

[23:06] And we were able to modify our burning applications and some of our proposals for physical changes to the area and to accommodate the required and some of the significant burnable.

[23:19] I can report that our proposed extension south of Cross Road is in very close proximity to one bullet and is somewhat close to a second.

[23:31] And those were assessed last week by the professional we retained the wet land donation, the time when those are very tight when you have to assess those.

[23:42] And the preliminary, they look at the decent amount of them.

[23:45] So we're already thinking about what that means in terms of our project.

[23:55] And then just sort of an overall work here.

[24:03] You know, I opened the vests and I wanted to close the vests and it was important to us.

[24:07] We very much got into community communities on all level.

[24:12] We are a community of history enthusiasts, railbuffs, but with a particular interest in

[24:18] Nile, we may know we're getting names, narrow-date railroads, but this narrow-date railroads

[24:23] are very passionate about what this era did for the community.

[24:27] it serves back in the day and we really truly want to reflect those values today. That's quite

[24:35] over here. And the extension that we are proposing is the first step in what we view as

[24:46] investing in a sustainable future. And by sustainable, that means that we want our organization

[24:52] to be able to last on a generational basis beyond the lifeline, the lifestane of any of us currently doing it.

[25:00] We want to be institutional and sustainable means a lot of things, and one of those things is

[25:09] responsibility to our neighbors and our towns that were there.

[25:14] Thank you.

[25:15] Thank you.

[25:16] Thank you.

[25:17] Can we ask questions?

[25:18] Yes.

[25:19] you know stop sharing, so I can say if there's anything on line.

[25:28] Yeah, if you guys are opening up questions, then.

[25:31] I'm sharing lines, I'm actually very personal piece.

[25:37] And I, of course, Jason is all this kind of working staff that help out with this.

[25:44] You're already generational, as I am both as past.

[25:50] But I do know a couple of concerns and questions just that you brought up, why are you replacing the culverts who is curious?

[25:59] They're not failing, but they're degrading.

[26:03] And if they're going to be much more practical to replace before this railroad structure on top of them.

[26:08] When you replace the culprits under existing rail line, you have to remove the rail line to do it.

[26:15] So rather than construct rail on your upper top of those existing holders now, and in 10 years

[26:20] have to replace them, we're moving all that constructs for sure, that's the reason.

[26:26] The ones that are hardly there right now, but they're up a little bit from the railroad itself

[26:31] right from the railroad then.

[26:34] There'll be things, these are right under the road that they're parallel across the road

[26:40] perpendicular to the road.

[26:44] So what is the dish for crossroads and then two others are basically connecting to what they know that you showed.

[26:53] So not the ones that go under, not those are the channels.

[26:57] Okay, that's what I was curious about.

[27:00] So I just misunderstood which covers.

[27:02] And I think when we talked earlier, you said that you were interested in the meaner,

[27:09] Yeah, and have you talked to whoever not yet, we're, you know, kind of saying what we're doing now.

[27:17] So, right now, we do engage a trapper to handle beaver concerns, which have in the past, not recently been in the past,

[27:27] threatened the integrity of our road bed and we deserve it and we did talk to

[27:32] Karisha when she visited us about basically moving that system of control over to

[27:39] this non-leafful method. We're interested. I have not yet been to a board meeting since that

[27:46] talk where I can present the idea to our board because it would require some investment on our

[27:52] I will say, I believe, are boards fully in favor of investing in these kind of situations

[27:59] where it can innovate, you know, neighborhoods and so on and so on, help us to a job better.

[28:05] Well, since they're the town culverts, I wouldn't, I don't think they're here.

[28:09] Well, I'll say they're the spots.

[28:10] So I understand that the grant that the town and God is handling, those culverts, which

[28:14] are town culverts.

[28:15] So I'm referring to be a activity that's called a railroad property.

[28:22] And the last thing I have is when you burn coal, one of the by-products is mercury, correct?

[28:31] I don't know about mercury.

[28:33] So we get a chemical analysis of coal and mercury is known.

[28:37] Now I should be blown and I'm happy and fully admit that.

[28:41] Then I'm willing to look at it.

[28:43] But I do not believe that mercury is on the rest.

[28:45] Professor, that would be good, that would be reassuring, technically.

[28:51] You follow the questions?

[28:54] Buff.

[28:55] They all may own to the pound line myself probably the one.

[29:00] But the damn this behind the sawmill was put in there in the 20s.

[29:07] But the sink for their wood dot experiment.

[29:11] I believe it had to be the 50s because the railroad was running in the 20s.

[29:14] And they wouldn't have wanted to be better up.

[29:17] So I heard 50s, I don't actually want to go.

[29:19] Well, whenever all of us, right?

[29:21] Did you ever walk into taking that damn out, the grain in that back?

[29:26] The what it was originally?

[29:28] Well, make up.

[29:29] That would make it so you can travel.

[29:33] You know, right?

[29:33] Right.

[29:34] Right.

[29:35] So now you can't.

[29:36] We figured it would be well beyond our abilities,

[29:40] to suggest such a thing as a very resilient seeking premise.

[29:43] We think it's above us, and you know, the pond is treated by regulatory agencies as a great poem and we're

[29:55] considering a great poem.

[29:57] And so, at present, our proposal is to...

[30:00] Our idea is to go beyond the west side of a, yeah, not a block of land on the ice. And it's a significant challenge.

[30:07] Like we're going to have an airs figuring that way.

[30:11] As it is, we deal on most of the roadbeds through the pond, the original roadbed, but not all of it.

[30:18] And the portion that we deal on is flooded, so that would be, there would be a channel.

[30:23] So, you know, in the future at some point, if we get this growth project approved and constructed,

[30:31] we can work out the challenges for the next step that proposal was going to be to

[30:36] type a rich off of the original road bed, get out behind the pond, and then swing back

[30:41] in and down to the other end, because we did see going through the pond, this is practical.

[30:47] So, we also, we understand that about half the neighbors loved the pond and half ate it.

[30:53] I think you want to talk about it.

[30:55] Yeah, yeah.

[30:56] Oh, well.

[30:56] Same thing.

[30:58] Damn that.

[30:58] I just was there.

[31:00] Right.

[31:02] Why could you just work on that?

[31:04] Well, I don't know.

[31:05] Take it out.

[31:06] That person was like.

[31:08] Yeah.

[31:08] I don't know.

[31:09] Why does that?

[31:10] Because it's only taking off any more land.

[31:13] Right.

[31:13] You can only go as far as my house.

[31:16] Because you don't want any further.

[31:17] Right.

[31:18] The goal is to get down there.

[31:22] You know, we would get out of my right, right, right,

[31:30] right questions.

[31:31] It's sort of clicked about, um, the right amount of why it goes cross-strand broken ends at

[31:36] 2018, right? Do you have to put in two tracks there to allow, uh, something else to turn around

[31:43] in the back again, we have to do that. Not as a part of it. Yeah, not as part of this

[31:48] or a mile extension proposal. Um, then this would just be,

[31:53] across the road, the border wild down, the single track, self-sequent proposals and years in the future when we

[32:02] could, if we're able to get down around the pond, take those trucks of station, the battle

[32:06] has some facilities. We come up with the ideas to have a refined, nice, past, and good station

[32:13] with a parking lot. I just write it to people as, it's like going to Hanford, here is where you

[32:20] there's a bathroom, there's the station, it makes sense to people. You know, what we have going on there doesn't make sense to throw people and we kind of get that right

[32:29] So, that'll have some additional facilities in that proposal. But this proposal is sealed right over.

[32:35] So, I don't know enough about the train, so if you get down to the end of this short extension, how you get the trains at the shop, you're back up on where you're at.

[32:46] So this would not see a lot of train traffic so to speak, so that if you're crossing would be used to facilitate

[32:54] these two train operation days, we may sometimes park a train down there out of the way.

[33:01] But it would not be used like we're using the track here now, so on an operating Saturday.

[33:08] If you're at a stable spot on our railroad, you'll see eight to twelve trains go by, right?

[33:14] is this and that needs one way or five times a day,

[33:18] then that the other way or five times a day.

[33:21] That will not really be happening down

[33:23] at the R and the four mile extension,

[33:26] that's not the idea, the idea is that it's a down payment

[33:30] on what we'd like to do with the future.

[33:33] And, you know, as soon as we had a conversation

[33:35] with the planning board a few years ago

[33:38] about what is and is considered sorely and so on.

[33:45] And the result, the main sense to us is logical that we needed to have that many time to understand it.

[33:50] As soon as you excavate the road to install a crossing, you're in a shortly in zone because your adjacent to the, what's the firepots.

[34:01] So, we're not only in a shortly in zone, but you're in sort of a D&P permit.

[34:05] So, as soon as that happens, it makes sense to do all the work that's within that zone.

[34:11] That's one set of permanent applications. So that's why the border mile became logical.

[34:20] My house.

[34:26] All right, thanks very much for here.

[34:28] Yeah.

[34:29] Excuse me.

[34:30] I don't think we're going to talk about it.

[34:32] We're going to try to get it to me.

[34:35] Yeah.

[34:35] Thank you.

[34:36] Thanks.

[34:38] Thank you.

[34:40] We're not sure.

[34:41] Bye.

[34:42] Bye.

[34:44] I'm sorry, next year.

[34:48] I'm sorry.

[34:49] We have a presentation about a new Scotty Hour.

[34:54] So welcome.

[34:55] I understand that's a comfortable space.

[34:58] I'm having a lot of other residents.

[35:00] Hopefully I'm walking here.

[35:03] Thank you.

[35:03] That's a seven.

[35:07] I'm a hopeful mind is a lot shorter and with less permits.

[35:10] but my idea is to respectfully request permission to utilize this space on when they

[35:22] starting out to provide coffee to our community. I make fairly new residents of the area

[35:31] and when I first got to town there was a spot where we could get coffee in the morning

[35:37] and say hi to our neighbors. And I, as I say, being new, don't get the opportunity to say hello

[35:44] to everybody. So, I would like the option to start out with a Wednesday morning, 6 to 10

[35:54] simple couple coffee and some baked goods. It's my first go at the Louvre Nothings. So, I don't know,

[36:00] you know, especially a loved one's comment. So, I asked him to share and amplified her over on the

[36:04] But a simple cup of coffee, I will very often,

[36:07] a piece of banana bread and the opportunity to come grab it to go.

[36:12] If you're on your way out, have a seat,

[36:16] low pressure, low stakes, simple offering.

[36:19] Myself will be a primary coordinator.

[36:21] I'm always looking for volunteers.

[36:23] And I've got a couple on the hook.

[36:25] You might know.

[36:28] And this space seems to make sense as it is.

[36:31] licenseally-located has excellence, accessibility, parking, and has heating and plumbing,

[36:39] which when I've done this to local community businesses are all, you know, local community

[36:44] buildings is an important piece, obviously. So I can't say more than that. I mean, I'm really

[36:54] trying to simplify just as much as possible, but I'm happy that I have very many questions.

[36:58] And so that's about it.

[37:03] I do not own, and those still said,

[37:06] coffee makers and crafts.

[37:08] So I am looking to partner with those that do in the area.

[37:13] I'm first time at running anything like a coffee shop.

[37:19] So as I say, this is not a business.

[37:21] This is not an nonprofit.

[37:23] If we want to call it a club, we can call it.

[37:25] But it's very welcoming and completely inviting

[37:27] of everybody to stop on by.

[37:30] So, I think I'm going to wing it here for a few couple goes to see how long I can get through.

[37:40] My kids are letting out June 17 from school, so I put that date on here. I will, willing to talk about going through the summer as a trial period.

[37:49] But obviously, I thought I'd start here first to see what's happened that says.

[37:55] That's it, George V. Yes, fire department has some coffee neighbors situation. Thank you. Thank you.

[38:02] Thank you. That sounds like a lot of come ask it for, you know, thank you.

[38:08] I've never seen the news of the fire. I was just in the back of the club.

[38:13] Okay. Well, come take a look. We'll find the time maybe I can come by and take a beer.

[38:17] the crime scene. Oh, I don't know those shows. Oh, okay. You know,

[38:22] swine the finding model a bit. Yes, well, these are as I say, rough estimate

[38:27] based on what I'm hoping is some favorable responses, pounds per coffee, tea,

[38:36] creamer, and baked goods. That's a very rough estimate sources. Initially, would be my

[38:43] contribution of, and then I'm hoping that they would be a suggested price mix.

[38:49] What I say if I suggest a pricing mean that I think the, I think the model that works best

[38:55] is I just say a suggested donation of $2 for a cup of coffee and a dollar for a muffin

[39:01] to start out. I'm going to have to do a review and that's what I'm giving myself also that

[39:08] six-week time when they're taking a look at property expenses and that's the

[39:13] profits and losses work out. I think if I do make anything close to a

[39:17] profit, my goal would be to make a donation to be able to pay attention. So as I

[39:23] say, this is a volunteer run situation. No one's getting paid other than just

[39:28] trying to cover expenses.

[39:32] Yes, I mean, sorry, I mean again, are you sure you

[39:35] Well, and through the sixth week, or does that happen from start?

[39:39] I mean, as soon as I, if I get permission, then yes, starting Wednesday, okay, Wednesdays are my starting day.

[39:45] It is that the day that seems to be works best for most, most town business, I think most everybody in the area myself included, but there's some wiggle room there and again,

[39:59] I'm looking at this as a bit of a trial to see if this, does anybody interested?

[40:04] If there's no interest, then I'll take my time back.

[40:09] Well, I think it's a great idea.

[40:10] I don't know about really work.

[40:11] You know, this face would be where it would be.

[40:14] So, I think, in vision like coffee up here,

[40:17] and somehow moving some chairs around,

[40:19] so that if you wanted to sit, you could.

[40:21] But obviously, as I said, you can take it on the road.

[40:24] Bring your own cup of coffee.

[40:25] Bring your own cup.

[40:27] Oh, it doesn't cups free.

[40:31] Does that have to happen again?

[40:33] So, I think, right here on top, right here on top, if that I will all have a half cup.

[40:37] You would like to bring a cup of a cup.

[40:39] Yeah, yeah.

[40:40] And that's a good one.

[40:41] No, I will offer a cup.

[40:42] That's for you, me and me.

[40:46] Yeah.

[40:46] Oh, good luck.

[40:47] And so, me and our questions.

[40:51] I think the question that I have is availability of the space at six.

[40:57] Yeah.

[40:59] And how that could be accomplished?

[41:00] I don't know, there's a voluntary comment section.

[41:05] No, I am volunteering to commit six.

[41:10] Is the question who's going to allow me in?

[41:12] And then there's security in the rest of the building.

[41:14] Indeed.

[41:16] Those are all listed.

[41:17] Let's just go to the questions.

[41:18] I'm wondering, and we talked a few of them,

[41:22] but I don't know how that might work.

[41:26] You guys staying along here at six times.

[41:28] No, no, no, no.

[41:29] I don't want to ask about of you. I'm wondering if I mean there is a block box in the

[41:38] bat if you guys are okay. Like the pantry volunteers, how they, I'm in though without anyone

[41:45] here. I mean that's totally up to you guys, but there is. They come in downstairs. Yeah, I believe.

[41:53] actually, but that key is the same key as the same as the last one where we're serving.

[41:58] So she could come and lock this door for guests and then not in the block.

[42:03] Yeah, the office is locked. Yeah, the office is always locked. Yeah, that was nice.

[42:09] There it is. That was interesting here. That would be open.

[42:13] Right. The paint that well, yeah, that's open, but the clerk said, well, you wouldn't want to do it

[42:20] of the consultations, they have a lock on the walk-up right on the right.

[42:25] I mean, there's cameras, there's camera right there, there's cameras downstairs, we've got,

[42:33] I mean, there's, it's not like, you know, there's not quite a reason for the, there's not quite a reason for that.

[42:38] Right. I put it all in the clerk's closet. And this is built around that for all the extra papers.

[42:46] So, yeah, I mean, it was kind of an intention of this space, too, for something just like that.

[42:52] Exactly.

[42:53] I mean, this building was the exact way.

[42:55] And we're meant to separate it from the office.

[42:58] I mean, I mean, I really get help.

[43:02] I just, not six clothes.

[43:05] I'm not sure.

[43:08] I'm not sure.

[43:09] I'm not sure.

[43:11] I'm not sure.

[43:15] I'm not sure.

[43:16] regular hours had to be fine with her and the assist to acute front door.

[43:21] So if I came at 10, it just made sure it revolved back up. I mean, not that, yeah, I'm

[43:26] not trust you. We're gonna keep making it make it easy. Yeah. Yeah, it has been

[43:31] heard about what's below here, the archives and the pantry. I don't know if that

[43:35] remarkable from here. It's not, it's not, it's, yeah. It has the walkbox. Oh, it has a

[43:46] Yeah, yeah.

[43:48] Yeah, yeah.

[43:49] Yeah.

[43:49] And that's a loss in the law.

[43:51] The law.

[43:52] That's a lot.

[43:53] Okay.

[43:54] You can't get anywhere.

[43:55] I mean, well, it's for the receiver.

[43:57] It's like a piece.

[43:58] And is that point out if you're going to just don't get it in a while.

[44:01] She's a, I'm going to remember that.

[44:04] I'm going to remember that.

[44:05] I mean, I'm going to turn my head like, well, I know.

[44:08] I mean, there's so many pantreval to it,

[44:11] It's something that we don't even know.

[44:13] Well, I keep it out with that guy.

[44:16] Yeah.

[44:16] I think the same thing Nick has already said,

[44:18] I know you're okay with it.

[44:20] And I'm okay with it.

[44:21] So I mean, I don't know.

[44:22] I would vote to pressure's going to end up.

[44:26] Hi, can you hear me?

[44:28] Yeah.

[44:29] Yeah.

[44:29] Just a couple of questions or comments, I guess.

[44:34] One is I just want to make sure that whatever area

[44:36] Katherine has access to through the lockbox system of the pantry includes an operational sink.

[44:45] And I haven't been down there in a while, so that was one thing I wanted to just clarify

[44:49] Lisa might be able to answer that or on her or Ed.

[45:01] As Greg said, when we were planning this new, we were moving from the old town office the year, the conception was that this would be a space that's usable by the community and that's why the office is configured so it can be separated off.

[45:26] You know, what Katherine's proposing to do is exactly the kind of thing that the building was designed to accommodate.

[45:36] So people who are shut up.

[45:38] So the concern is about, like, say, cleaning the mugs or whatever it might be afterwards.

[45:42] My intent was to probably just take it all home.

[45:45] Okay. And so I guess it would be like a pack in pack out kind of the scenario.

[45:51] But as long as you were prepared for that kind of additional effort, then that's fine with me.

[45:59] I'm not concerned.

[46:01] And then the other thing I wanted to mention is just the idea of, like, I think this has a lot of potential,

[46:09] but things just move really slow in all of them.

[46:13] And it really takes like a year for things to get momentum.

[46:18] So I think that you'll learn a lot in the six weeks that you are offering, but my sense

[46:26] is that you would have real buy-in if there was a way to keep that going through a six-month

[46:33] period or even through till we got to the dead of winter or something and maybe it doesn't

[46:39] happen in the dead of winter, although then you think about it and that's when people especially

[46:43] older folks are most isolated and it's kind of when they need it the most. So anyway, I would love to

[46:50] problem solve with you on how to extend that. Even if it seems dead,

[46:57] like completely dead, no one's coming because again these things just have to exist and you don't get people

[47:04] to come. Nobody comes for a really long time and then all of a sudden someone comes and then before

[47:09] know it, you've got five, five committed folks that are coming week after week after week.

[47:14] So anyway, not sure if there's a way you can loop those other volunteers that you mentioned

[47:19] into, extend it through the summer. I know I have a little bit more flexibility in the summers

[47:26] because I'm not teaching full time, so I'm happy to problem solve with you on that.

[47:33] Yes, I mean I'm unable to say idea, I wanted to, I was really out this short window as a more

[47:43] more for the town to consider a certain stop, but if you feel like if the town felt like

[47:51] you could go for a longer period of time, we can all respond about that as you said.

[47:57] I don't make sure that's scheduling meetings.

[48:00] When six or six.

[48:01] When six or six.

[48:03] I don't know if well.

[48:04] But you don't even date.

[48:05] Some people.

[48:07] Bar for me.

[48:07] Well, we'll sign it up.

[48:09] Well, the road would help.

[48:10] Some bullies who's hanging up in it.

[48:12] I'll come and broke up.

[48:14] Great idea.

[48:15] I thought about that.

[48:16] That's a very idea.

[48:17] Do that every Wednesday morning on your dog.

[48:20] Yeah.

[48:20] I'm sick.

[48:21] I'm right.

[48:21] I have a sandwich for you.

[48:24] If you want.

[48:24] And it says vote here, but you can put like something over there or something over it and just turn it out there.

[48:29] I just want to add that Ralph, that is a beautiful segue to a very specific topic.

[48:34] I have for the working meeting and a link to a attachment board for that sign out front that has changeable letters.

[48:44] So I think we see more and more need to be able to announce things on a rotation,

[48:50] whether it be the community cleanup day, an election, whatever events are happening, and

[48:57] that sign is actually designed so you can attach one more level of signage below it.

[49:04] I've tried putting things out there and they blow away.

[49:06] I don't know if there's like a special wind trajectory tunnel system happening out there on

[49:11] but nothing seems to stay put.

[49:17] Do you have a name for this?

[49:19] Well, I started with town coffee.

[49:24] Yeah.

[49:25] But I'm up for the first suggestion.

[49:27] Maybe it'll come as we, uh,

[49:29] if we could off the ground.

[49:31] Maybe all in town.

[49:32] Yeah.

[49:34] In case you're interested in anything else.

[49:36] We're at one point town.

[49:38] Well, I don't want to see, you know, again,

[49:40] And anybody, it's not just all the rest of you, right?

[49:43] So I'm going to make everybody do a little bit

[49:45] that they'd write on them, everybody, everybody's cropping.

[49:50] Yeah, yeah, I'm going to make sure it's a good cup of coffee.

[49:53] Come on, come on, come on.

[49:55] Thanks for your time.

[49:56] Yeah, thank you.

[49:57] Thank you.

[49:58] Thanks for your

[50:06] time.

[50:06] Okay, next up is the opening of the RP proposals.

[50:10] This was for the Beaver RP that when I only had one response,

[50:15] it from scap, which certainly, I think would happen, but that's what we got.

[50:23] I know we have one grant that we, I got for 4,000 plus there is a spending line in the

[50:35] road budget for beaver control.

[50:39] And then did you say we just got another 5,000 per second?

[50:45] So I just wanted to add also to this that I can't obviously see, necessarily what you all are looking at at the moment.

[50:55] But the understanding that Skip was going to submit for the full for the full six sites.

[51:05] And, but we can always hire for what we have funding for and I did want to just add that on top of

[51:13] the grants that we have out right now, which is about 13,000, well, sorry, the two grants

[51:20] and town funding, town money, would put us at what is it 13,000?

[51:27] in working on. Well, it's 14,000. Okay, great. And then I do want to add that I also have an additional

[51:38] 13,000 in grants still waiting to hear back from. I have a two more grants that I've applied for.

[51:46] So I just wanted to put that out there. That we could hire skips for what we have funding for now

[51:54] and then do a second push once those other grants are awarded.

[52:03] Yeah, that's why I thought it was, if you want, I'll just make a motion on this.

[52:12] So, I move it, we fire skip a while, and do we receive or do we see two install and do we receive

[52:25] our devices for three projects currently?

[52:30] That we have funding for with the intention to approve additional projects as funding is obtained.

[52:41] I'm a second.

[52:42] This is very close.

[52:45] I'm sorry.

[52:45] Can we start?

[52:47] Sorry.

[52:48] I'm sorry.

[52:49] Should we just should just complete this?

[52:51] Because I second.

[52:52] Yeah, I was just completed.

[52:53] I'm going to answer questions.

[52:54] Sorry.

[52:54] So the second.

[52:56] Yeah.

[52:56] Let me offer a suggestion.

[53:01] To, I think we can approve all of them now.

[53:06] by that they'd fund the only.

[53:10] So we don't want us to come back to propose

[53:11] for the force and fifths, that's an owed funding.

[53:16] Yeah, and approve it,

[53:20] for the first student to choose them.

[53:23] And then, through all of them,

[53:26] subject to funding,

[53:28] identify the ones we're funding

[53:30] and last two subject to receive funding for those.

[53:33] I agree if that was a great idea, but instead of approving for specific sites, let's approve for the 14,000 that we know we have.

[53:42] So, he might be able to do more with that money than we realized, so he might be able to do more than three sites.

[53:48] I'm not quite sure. So, let's just approve for the amount that we can spend now.

[53:55] not to choose for the choice of locations.

[53:59] Skip and Mike are choosing the locations in collaboration.

[54:05] Because you're going to do the most problematic first.

[54:07] They're going to do the ones that are either.

[54:10] So I know most of us the most active with beaver activity.

[54:14] Most recent beaver activity, current activity.

[54:18] The most difficult to get to also.

[54:21] So, there's a level of prioritizing that they're using.

[54:28] I hope that is yet.

[54:30] My strongest, the one is the rogue commissioner.

[54:34] It's going to be the one who approves those sites.

[54:37] And you're equally as best.

[54:39] I'm happy with that.

[54:40] He's already given skip the order that he believes is the priority.

[54:44] And skip this validating that based on his biological observations.

[54:53] That's a little messy right now.

[54:55] What's it?

[54:55] It's a little messy.

[54:56] One of the first motion that that was changed.

[55:00] First, first motion fails.

[55:01] Because we have to.

[55:06] Yeah.

[55:07] Yeah.

[55:15] I'm happy to give it a go too either way.

[55:19] So I move that we approve of.

[55:22] uh... skip miles uh... proposed a little for me for deceivers lc

[55:28] uh... for all the sites listed

[55:32] uh...

[55:33] as funds become available in particular originally starting with as many sites as he

[55:39] can do for the fourteen thousand dollars in current funding

[55:44] i second

[55:45] all in favor

[55:47] i

[55:48] there you go

[55:52] And just to answer honor's question when you have a minute.

[55:55] Yeah, so he has a total of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

[56:00] He has six on here.

[56:01] So originally we said six.

[56:02] But I think after talking about my trust,

[56:04] is actually on the five spots.

[56:06] So for six, it was going to be 25,500.

[56:10] Because they run pretty much $4,100 per site.

[56:13] The only one that's more is the golden richer at one,

[56:16] because it's bigger and more difficult.

[56:20] That one said 5,000.

[56:21] But there's one on the other, shouldn't be on there,

[56:25] so 400 will fall off.

[56:28] So,

[56:36] all right, I'm going to roll out next.

[56:40] We just need to vote to pay for the chassis

[56:42] of the fire truck crew fire to preserve and moves

[56:46] that we do that.

[56:51] I second, all in favor.

[56:56] Is there a raise, Tanya?

[57:05] Yeah.

[57:06] Just a quick question.

[57:07] Is that going to be a...

[57:10] You sound familiar, right, Tanya?

[57:12] That could be a 100% cash transaction.

[57:19] There's no the fire chart.

[57:23] Yeah.

[57:23] The money's coming out of the results.

[57:25] The money's already there.

[57:26] It's what's been so signed.

[57:28] Yep.

[57:28] Okay.

[57:28] Thank you.

[57:29] Jeff.

[57:30] Yeah.

[57:31] This is you Jeff, right?

[57:33] Oh, yeah.

[57:33] This is Jeff Philberg.

[57:35] Okay.

[57:36] Your name on zoom is Ed Pentalary.

[57:38] Oh, sorry.

[57:39] we hear a zoom for multiple meetings because he has a pro account and I just have the free

[57:47] account and the professional account gives you more time. So that's all.

[57:52] But your voice gave you a way. Yeah, well thank you. Thanks for catching that. I would do my best

[57:59] ad impersonation, but he was there earlier, so that would be difficult.

[58:04] That's okay. That's what gave you a way.

[58:07] Yeah.

[58:09] All right.

[58:09] All right. So I'm sorry.

[58:10] You said that.

[58:11] I'll turn back.

[58:12] And is that what you said?

[58:14] Yes.

[58:14] This is just not a reserve.

[58:16] Yeah. That's what that's what Mike said at Tom meeting.

[58:18] So I was just.

[58:19] I just wanted to double check.

[58:20] So thank you.

[58:29] Let's see.

[58:32] Spread of American nominations.

[58:46] That I was in trying.

[58:48] Oh,

[58:49] Pration book.

[58:50] Can you take me off that big screen?

[58:52] There you go. Okay.

[58:56] I'm in super size. I'd prefer you to drink me.

[59:01] Well, you were strong, but not even coming.

[59:04] Both.

[59:09] Anyway, I...

[59:10] I'm happy to speak on this if you'd like for me to present this agenda item.

[59:16] Sure.

[59:16] Okay, I just wanted us to make sure it was on our radar because it has a June deadline and I wanted to make sure that I wanted to discuss how we wanted to get nominations.

[59:32] I personally like the idea of having it be sort of like a vote where we put out the appeal.

[59:38] We can put out in a pill digitally like we've had in the past. We can also put out in a pill at the front at the counter in the town office with a little suggestion box

[59:48] So that people in person could also put in a suggestion

[59:51] But I like the idea of like we get as many votes for specific people, you know that that folks haven't mind and then we use

[1:00:00] This is that to determine who we would like to choose. Now, some folks might not many people that have already been celebrated in some ways. I would rather us not be redundant if that's possible.

[1:00:12] There are times where we might be because 20 years have passed and the person is still giving up themselves in these volunteer ways and it makes sense.

[1:00:20] So anyway, I'm just throwing the idea that we post it, have a suggestion box, continue to

[1:00:27] remind people over the next six weeks that this is happening.

[1:00:30] We want votes to help us to help guide us in our decision.

[1:00:38] Ultimately, we would make the decision to select board.

[1:00:43] Yeah.

[1:00:43] I agree with that.

[1:00:45] Yeah.

[1:00:45] If we just ask people for suggestions and then I know we've already gotten a couple.

[1:00:49] but yeah. So, so what else have to be important? I've drafted a letter or a message through

[1:00:58] that we could do through the listserv, I'll share that with Lisa. But I can share it with you

[1:01:02] both first so that you can give any comments on that through you want me to change the wording it all.

[1:01:07] And then this is also something we could make a flyer for. And Lisa, are you okay to put a little like

[1:01:14] suggestion box out on the counter.

[1:01:18] Anybody think of any other ways that we could collect the information from the community.

[1:01:25] The list.

[1:01:26] I'm going to go with Sarah and then.

[1:01:29] The, you know, that's counter.

[1:01:31] I guess it's just going to be the most.

[1:01:34] The decision.

[1:01:36] Okay.

[1:01:37] Maybe we could put the suggestion box out at everybody's coffee on Wednesday morning.

[1:01:46] All right, that was it. I just want to make sure it was on our radar and we're good to go forward.

[1:01:51] Please just add something for us. Why don't we make sure that a weekly something goes out of the

[1:01:58] to remind people. Agreed. Okay. Okay. Coffee in that. I'm in the same

[1:02:07] listserv. Okay. They remind people on Tuesdays. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:02:11] So, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.

[1:02:15] I don't know. That's that, too. Okay, so.

[1:02:17] Are you still going to, you have said something originally about or once it all about the person

[1:02:23] who gets the spirit of America award also gets the town report dedicated to them?

[1:02:27] that's typically what was done in the past.

[1:02:31] I think that's how it's been.

[1:02:32] I'm genuinely, like, continue that.

[1:02:34] I assume so, it's under change.

[1:02:37] We're cool.

[1:02:38] That's, I would like to say that I am 100% in support

[1:02:41] of that for a number of reasons.

[1:02:43] One is, it actually helps us track

[1:02:45] who gets nominated, who receives that recognition.

[1:02:47] And the other reason is because a part

[1:02:49] of the spirit of America award is supposed to be

[1:02:52] some type of ceremony or recognition process.

[1:02:57] and although we have the certificate and we hand that out at town meeting and the person's

[1:03:01] recognized in that way, the town report, there's something very permanent about that,

[1:03:07] it's it's a publication and so it's just to me it really solidifies the recognition of those

[1:03:14] those volunteer efforts. I totally agree which is why I was actually going to put the whole fire department

[1:03:20] You should have been there at just haven't skipped the last of the year before

[1:03:29] or done with that.

[1:03:32] I saw him here because this was put together all those away, but the person with a changeable letters sign are you.

[1:03:40] Can that down the road? Is that what you were just talking about? Do you have it on tonight's agenda not the working on for tonight because I included an Amazon link I shared with folks.

[1:03:52] for this specific sign that can be

[1:03:58] to slightly modified to connect to the board out there,

[1:04:04] because there's already like hook holes on that bottom piece of wood,

[1:04:07] but this is a changeable letter sign.

[1:04:12] But I wanted approval for us to spend $249.45 to purchase it,

[1:04:18] and there might be a little bit of money we have to spend,

[1:04:20] maybe another 50 bucks or something to just modify it so we can get the hooks in the top of

[1:04:25] this changeable letter sign.

[1:04:28] I move it, we approve of that.

[1:04:30] Great.

[1:04:30] I second.

[1:04:32] All I'm going to do is a picture of what I'm going to do is that that is, I haven't even

[1:04:41] seen the light that she's talking about, so I'm saying I'm just going to go to the

[1:04:45] screen.

[1:04:46] I understand the description of what it's

[1:04:50] It's supposed to be as it hangs below the faithful that are so that it gets in town and bored

[1:04:56] if you come here and you sit there and sit in the middle of that.

[1:05:04] Yeah, I don't think my dears, it's been 90 minutes.

[1:05:07] It's plenty of my parents.

[1:05:08] It's plenty of my parents.

[1:05:09] Yeah.

[1:05:09] We've had a bit of that query.

[1:05:11] I like crazy.

[1:05:12] They're behind art.

[1:05:13] I was like crazy.

[1:05:15] We'll see you guys in the back of it.

[1:05:16] Don't you take your brutal fools, Ralph, remember those solar farm people?

[1:05:20] They had to identify the rental pools in the fall, I'd just in just an inch into that they had to do it in the spring.

[1:05:30] All right, let's see.

[1:05:33] I don't really think since we're on the building maintenance.

[1:05:39] This is Jeff.

[1:05:43] Yes, I promise I'm not.

[1:05:45] Yeah, promise I'm not at.

[1:05:49] question for Kareka is is that sign like a lighted sign that's going to be people are going to see it night or is it just like visible from the daytime.

[1:05:59] It's only visible from the daytime although we could we paid like 30 bucks or something 20 bucks to get a solar flag full light so if we wanted to be lit.

[1:06:09] from any direction we could also add lighting, but for right now it would just be, no, no

[1:06:18] Illuminary components. Okay. Yeah. Well, I don't like the idea of lighted signs in all of

[1:06:23] But that's that's just in the opinion. I just had the question. So thank you. Yeah, this is very low tap

[1:06:28] Nothing digital. It's it's just like the waste you know how in front of GSB or other schools

[1:06:34] Sometimes there's a sign about events and you can change those little

[1:06:39] They're like letters, it'll just be like that.

[1:06:43] Yeah, okay, perfect.

[1:06:45] Thank you.

[1:06:47] The neighbors in this, we're talking about the first.

[1:06:49] Yeah, I'm not going to imagine where the night's in.

[1:06:52] The last one is.

[1:06:55] Rough.

[1:06:56] Yeah, I'm changing the letters.

[1:06:59] Wasn't.

[1:06:59] Or was.

[1:07:00] All right.

[1:07:02] So since we're on building maintenance,

[1:07:04] we need to hire.

[1:07:06] When we talked about hiring Chris Cooper to fix up the front of the town office and seal the deck and do some of the painting that needs to be done.

[1:07:21] So I move the wee higher Chris Cooper to have a second fix that. All in favour?

[1:07:26] Bye.

[1:07:28] I have a first.

[1:07:30] I have no plans to take in permits. I mean, my priority as you will remain.

[1:07:38] Well, that's not our fault best.

[1:07:41] I know. They were on time.

[1:07:47] I don't understand that.

[1:07:53] All right. The last thing I'm going to list is updating the permit fees.

[1:07:58] I believe this is pertaining to new mining operations,

[1:08:03] expansion of mining operations, and new pouring operations.

[1:08:12] So I

[1:08:17] looked at was essentially, for just starting with the expansion of an existing.

[1:08:24] There's that's for a very expansion of a half maker.

[1:08:27] To me, that should be like a $50 fee.

[1:08:31] It's a very minimal, there's not a lot of chaos that goes in, comparatively, just because

[1:08:41] I'm not basing that off of like a new subdivision when they apply the subdivision charges

[1:08:48] is $50 per lot, I believe it is, so I do a lot of two acres versus a half an acre.

[1:08:56] I mean, I understand it's mining, but it's...

[1:09:00] Yeah.

[1:09:01] Okay.

[1:09:02] If I understand mining ordinance, and I haven't spent a while

[1:09:05] of time thinking about it since before time being,

[1:09:08] but I believe that an expansion of an existing pit will trigger

[1:09:14] a forward view by the planning board of the extension.

[1:09:19] So it will be...

[1:09:21] There will be work involved.

[1:09:25] This is a permit, nothing to do with the registration thing, right?

[1:09:29] And I'm not saying, where are you selling that?

[1:09:30] It would have been just like, I could just add one thing, whatever we do, whatever the

[1:09:36] amount is, it has to correlate with the amount of work that goes into it.

[1:09:41] So if that's normally $120 for full review, then that's what it has to be, even though

[1:09:45] to me that never feels like enough for a mining operation.

[1:09:49] So I feel like our hands are tied in terms of the way MMA has explained that these types

[1:09:54] fees are not meant to be a revenue source for municipalities. They have to correlate with the amount

[1:10:01] of worth the town has to do to process the permit.

[1:10:09] So a planning board, a normal planning board

[1:10:11] meeting with five members costs $125. And I would expect, frankly, a new expansion of an existing

[1:10:22] the planning board is never looked at, has no information about, you know, it will be a brand new requirement.

[1:10:29] I would expect that would probably take at least two minutes.

[1:10:32] And the site, the website, the website, the file, it does the mining one is required,

[1:10:37] so that it can't remember. But we probably would want to do one.

[1:10:41] So yes, and the site doesn't say we're talking three meetings.

[1:10:46] And then, you know, there's time that clerks spend, then we have notices to put out.

[1:10:55] So, you know, I would suggest something more like at least $500 to cover the town's

[1:11:01] existence.

[1:11:03] The numbers you indicated for isn't to compensate the money or members.

[1:11:09] Right.

[1:11:09] The various needs.

[1:11:12] That sounds fair because the just the three meetings would be 360 dollars and we know any time you do notice this in the newspaper those are really expensive Lisa what what was it it was like 300 dollars

[1:11:24] Yeah for some sort of notice is like a hundred twenty five for one week

[1:11:29] At least or maybe it was like a hundred thirty nine now I think

[1:11:34] Our last bill

[1:11:37] That's 500, actually.

[1:11:39] So yeah, that's probably even a little less than what it would cost if we posted for two weeks.

[1:11:54] That really puts us at $120, actually, if you count the three meetings and two weeks of a posted notice.

[1:12:02] And again, to me, I'm totally comfortable with that, because it's not about revenue.

[1:12:08] It's about covering costs.

[1:12:12] Yeah, two weeks of an ad is three and a half.

[1:12:15] And do we rebate anything? If they don't, if they aren't two weeks, and a site does it?

[1:12:23] Did you do that? You would need to have an escrow fee.

[1:12:29] I can recall again.

[1:12:30] Yeah, I could look at the mining ordinance when there's a provision for escrow fees.

[1:12:34] So that's not, I don't know.

[1:12:41] I mean, it's not exactly that.

[1:12:42] So it's going to be pretty much the same

[1:12:44] as a new one now for it.

[1:12:45] And it's the same thing.

[1:12:46] And I did say five members,

[1:12:48] because that's the normal membership occasion rate.

[1:12:52] We have all seven members of the planning

[1:12:55] where we've come to meeting or six.

[1:12:58] So I mean, also sometimes they only have four.

[1:13:00] We're through.

[1:13:01] So average probably is five, but we're setting

[1:13:05] we have to be on five just because that's the best.

[1:13:08] That's why I think it's reasonable, but just so you know that it could be, and it's not the

[1:13:14] site, because that would be specifically planning where members on that want specific thing,

[1:13:19] but to me, it's not going to be a lot of stuff, too.

[1:13:22] We might be not, although fair to start, because we're going to have, if you have other stuff

[1:13:27] on there, generally, that's also being paid out, just for a budget even, so I mean, just kind

[1:13:32] It's a nice even $500.

[1:13:33] Right, that's what I'm thinking, that's kind of, you're covering most of it with 500 parts,

[1:13:40] and then you're going to have other stuff on the agenda likely.

[1:13:45] I want to caution us, we as a town tend to under compensate ourselves for the work we do.

[1:13:53] I don't want to be seeming like we are hurting the small folks and the folks that are just

[1:13:59] trying to make a buck and survive, but this is, this to me is not a time to do that, and

[1:14:08] to worry about that. We really should be waiting, but I think we've turned by which has

[1:14:13] 500 bucks for a solar farm.

[1:14:16] But nope, well, I would imagine it's a similar amount of work.

[1:14:21] This very based on spies and it goes up to as much as 5,000.

[1:14:24] I don't know, I know, but for a small one, I think it's five hundred bucks.

[1:14:29] I think it's what we just booked that last time.

[1:14:32] And the baby will profile.

[1:14:33] Well, I'll just, like, for my perspective,

[1:14:36] a mining operation requires a lot more work by the planning board and then a solar farm,

[1:14:42] because of what's involved in a mining operation's compared to solar farm.

[1:14:48] So, you

[1:14:50] know, I think charging more than the solar farm

[1:14:54] would be a mentor, but the amount of work it's likely to be required.

[1:14:59] Let me go.

[1:15:00] And there is money in the budget to pay the planning board for it to meet their meetings.

[1:15:04] You know, this is certainly have to fund it off the backs of those that are applying.

[1:15:09] Yeah,

[1:15:17] I think part of it, I don't always turn a stage in as fair all the way around.

[1:15:22] The would agree with that,

[1:15:29] isn't just for you.

[1:15:30] That's just for you expansion.

[1:15:33] And we can talk different for a new mining operation.

[1:15:39] because we have three different things.

[1:15:42] We have the expansion, just as 500,

[1:15:46] and then you have new mining operation in a new morning.

[1:15:50] Although I will say that the new mining operation

[1:15:52] and new queries, they are required to put the bills

[1:15:57] for all of their, not the planning board work,

[1:16:00] but for all of their research and experts

[1:16:05] and all the things that they have to hire

[1:16:06] in order to get there.

[1:16:10] Permit.

[1:16:10] No, I got that.

[1:16:12] Let me put that in the ordinance.

[1:16:20] Let's simplify it.

[1:16:22] I should say before we take a vote.

[1:16:25] Let's just think about this then.

[1:16:27] So if you're saying 504 expansion.

[1:16:31] What would be.

[1:16:34] Kathy, what would be the amount of work for new.

[1:16:37] How does that differ?

[1:16:44] Well, I'm not sure that it will be that different, right?

[1:16:47] It seems to be the same, because the sentence I didn't,

[1:16:49] I don't know, is treatment as a middle,

[1:16:51] but I'm not sure if 500 is enough.

[1:16:54] So, I'll just say that.

[1:16:55] But I, yes, the extension is, I recall from the ordinance,

[1:16:59] and we haven't worked through anything using the new ordinance.

[1:17:02] So, I'm a little shaky, but I think the review process

[1:17:06] for an extension is the same as the review process

[1:17:11] or a new. So, it's going to be a lot, you know, you have wetlands, you have

[1:17:18] your soils to think about, you have brown water, surface water,

[1:17:22] there are a lot of issues to think about, access, safety. So, it's a lot, it's a lot of work.

[1:17:30] We have not done it, new one. We've done crypters blasting permits, and I know how much work that is,

[1:17:38] And so, exactly from that, I feel like, you know, 500 is probably when the cover

[1:17:47] I lost.

[1:17:49] I guess we start with 500 for the three and revisit it if it turns out that that's just

[1:17:56] much too low.

[1:17:59] I don't know, I hear you, but I don't agree with that it's a lot harder to change a price

[1:18:03] up than it is to change it down.

[1:18:04] So, to me, I'd rather say, 620 for any expansion or new, because that's the basis, that's like a baseline of what it's going to cost.

[1:18:15] And then if we see that we can reduce it over time, then we reduce it over time.

[1:18:22] I would say just 100 for the expansion and a thousand for anything new,

[1:18:30] because I do think you'd be doing more work.

[1:18:32] If it's a new operation in a new area, well, to an expansion, that's something that didn't

[1:18:40] have a permit before. Well, that's a different story. And that's probably what most expansions

[1:18:47] will be because we don't have, there's nobody in town that the permit that I'm aware of right now

[1:18:52] for an existing pit except for corporate. So, somebody comes in for an expansion that's going to be

[1:19:02] to be equivalent of a new one.

[1:19:06] And Kathy made quite understand, but you were saying for the new operations, you're going

[1:19:11] to have to analyze or review all of the documents from the experts.

[1:19:14] You said, like, the water, the soil.

[1:19:18] Yeah.

[1:19:19] Yeah.

[1:19:19] Oh, I see.

[1:19:21] You know, this right 10 or 15 performance standards that we will have to review and figure out

[1:19:28] whether what's being proposed and meets the standard.

[1:19:31] Okay, so that takes work.

[1:19:35] Yeah.

[1:19:35] Did you say I could take two names?

[1:19:39] We're talking hours and days.

[1:19:42] I agree with Beth's assessment

[1:19:44] and like about the $1,000.

[1:19:47] I think that's more consistent for the new operations,

[1:19:51] but I do still feel strong

[1:19:52] that we shouldn't go below 620 for the expansions.

[1:20:01] I'm not comfortable with the $1,000.

[1:20:04] For new operations, with having to,

[1:20:06] I just did $20 times 15 to compensate people's time.

[1:20:10] That's only if one person has to review each standard.

[1:20:13] It takes an hour, that's $300 additional dollars.

[1:20:16] So, I mean, that's just basic.

[1:20:20] I think that a thousand makes all the sense in the world.

[1:20:22] They're probably going to be spending more time

[1:20:23] than what I just calculated.

[1:20:28] That's just, I think it's fine.

[1:20:33] I think $400 for an expansion of 1,000 for anything else.

[1:20:37] but you do new categories, I mean, that's all right, I'm willing to compromise so we can

[1:20:47] put this one to that.

[1:20:51] Right, I moved to update the permit fee schedule as follows.

[1:21:00] Expansionably existing mining operation $500.

[1:21:06] application for a new money operation $1,000 application for a new

[1:21:10] scoring operation $1,000

[1:21:17] in the second.

[1:21:19] All in favor?

[1:21:21] Aye.

[1:21:23] All right.

[1:21:25] And that.

[1:21:26] I hope to adjourn or I go to support it.

[1:21:30] Second.

[1:21:30] All in favor?

[1:21:32] Aye.

[1:21:33] Moving is on to at 7.23.

[1:21:44] That's the same time as the last week.

[1:21:46] Isn't it?

[1:21:47] That's a new record.

[1:21:49] I'm going to.

[1:21:51] Thanks.

[1:21:52] Thanks.

[1:21:53] Thank you.

[1:21:54] Yeah.

[1:21:56] I don't know anything about working.

[1:21:58] I don't know anything about working.

[1:22:00] I do have something.

[1:22:07] Okay.

[1:22:08] So I'm wondering if we can review

[1:22:11] the plowing contract that includes the plowing of the town office. It was suggested by someone

[1:22:19] that in the past, a part of that contract included removing the gravel off the lawn at the end of

[1:22:25] the plowing season. And we have massive amount of gravel on the lawn.

[1:22:30] So I was wondering if we could review that and if it's not in the current contract, if it is in the current

[1:22:36] contract, just make sure that's happening if it's not to add that to the next time we have a

[1:22:42] plowing contract just to put it on people's radar that apparently that is something you can

[1:22:46] include in your plowing contract.

[1:22:50] Yeah, I think that's fine. I don't know what it is in the current one,

[1:22:53] but when we go look at it again,

[1:22:56] for not next winter with the winter after we can.

[1:22:59] The day Kelly's renting,

[1:23:00] if he's the good thing that she could do that for it.

[1:23:03] Well, our lawn and garden,

[1:23:06] and I also have a Whitman and I was chatting with him

[1:23:09] last week about it.

[1:23:11] Oh, oh, oh, oh yeah, I just told Toby that, you know,

[1:23:19] he's like, I don't want to bear the cost of it.

[1:23:22] out of mind, one knowing when I have to move on the ground,

[1:23:25] we'll move up to seven, one, and so if you're taking a few hours to move it,

[1:23:31] I'm like, that's five, it's the last fear of time.

[1:23:33] We'll take them out of the maintenance account

[1:23:36] and then we'll address it with snowman-mobile people

[1:23:39] for our next winter.

[1:23:41] Awesome, great.

[1:23:43] That way, that way is done, and it's not,

[1:23:46] we're not saying thanks for your donate in your labor.

[1:23:52] I'm just mentioning that there is a tire on gold and ridge road near any property that needs

[1:23:57] picking up, but I can address that with Mike Trask, who's picked up tires on the side of the road before.

[1:24:04] And then I just wanted to mention, I know that there was talk of hiring Chris Cooper to

[1:24:09] paint with the front of the building. I just wanted to make sure that when we talk to

[1:24:15] Chris, we include restilling all the decking. I wasn't sure if that was a part of what we

[1:24:21] approved today. Okay, I'm the hand-railing and applying paint to all the faded wooden features

[1:24:28] in the front entry way, I think that was it. I don't think there's any rotten wood that needs

[1:24:32] for placing. Oh, but he did also, when I talked to him at one point, he mentioned that

[1:24:38] that there's an extra of railing that was made it with an extension because the steps used

[1:24:45] to be further down before they grabbed. They paved the driveway and now that railing sticks

[1:24:49] out really far and it's kind of a hip bruiser. So I'm wondering if we could just also make

[1:24:54] sure that that's, he mentioned that that's something that could get just trimmed so that

[1:24:58] it doesn't stick out so far. People might walk into it.

[1:25:03] Okay. Okay. Okay.

[1:25:06] I think that was it.

[1:25:10] All right. Move that to you.

[1:25:12] But wait, sorry. Sorry. Are you, are you, do you have anything to add? Steven terms of topics or?

[1:25:18] No. Okay. Just really quick before we adjourn.

[1:25:22] Was there anything we wanted to have put on next or next agenda? Anything on anybody's radar?

[1:25:28] Oh, wait. I have something.

[1:25:29] I think we should just, I think we should try to make sure we get down us in here,

[1:25:39] nuts, meetings, a set of community. Pretty sure it's difficult for that.

[1:25:44] Yeah, I just want to make sure to do a meeting here just to all over the

[1:25:48] rebound with us at that preliminary thing. So they can keep moving forward to start having meetings

[1:25:53] with the fee residents as the back goes out. I want to hold that up because I know originally

[1:26:03] they want to make sure to try and have those meetings in May, yes, yes they could. So, I must

[1:26:10] have to get you guys to sign that this is not a big deal that's going to be on the agenda. The school

[1:26:15] or weren't the election?

[1:26:17] Oh, I'll tell you.

[1:26:18] The budget for the election or me?

[1:26:20] So I have to be on the warrant for approval,

[1:26:22] the school budget warrant.

[1:26:24] Yeah.

[1:26:24] I have a budget.

[1:26:26] Yeah.

[1:26:27] I just defined it, yeah.

[1:26:29] So yeah, I'd say down this, down this is the one,

[1:26:33] and then the school budget warrant, thank you.

[1:26:38] So what's the plan to detect for rolling out

[1:26:40] the real valuation results?

[1:26:43] I'm pretty sure he's going to, yeah, once they meet with us, they send out the letters, I think, and all the information we posted on their website, where you can go to your property and see what the air evaluation is.

[1:26:58] I'm not three, might be taking your vacation time back then.

[1:27:01] No, it took my last place.

[1:27:06] I have a brand baby Do you know about that time sam

[1:27:16] Yeah-it's gonna suck work

[1:27:22] Yeah.

[1:27:24] You're perfect.

[1:27:26] I don't know.

[1:27:28] Yeah, just be out of a line, sir.

[1:27:30] I'm very quiet in the last four weeks.

[1:27:35] Speaking of the amount of what we're doing during this early update on this switchover,

[1:27:39] we've got some, it gets through versions.

[1:27:42] We've got, we just, we're told my version that one of our counter computers is,

[1:27:48] with a, they say, depending failure.

[1:27:51] So yeah, they called us here the day and said it was an abandoned family. That's the one we use every day.

[1:27:57] That's the one we use every day.

[1:27:59] So I'm a crisis that is not.

[1:28:02] But we definitely, so we'll get that thing out of set.

[1:28:06] I guess from where they have, they just have nothing in failure.

[1:28:11] I want to know that they know.

[1:28:13] But we'll get it. We'll get it.

[1:28:15] I'm not pushing. I just have to know why the disaster is going to happen.

[1:28:19] And hopefully it won't be like right around playing or being kind of

[1:28:23] No, I think what I'm hoping it would be like

[1:28:26] Some worse times. That's the slowest kind of well

[1:28:31] We gotta get through the primers. So that's what we need to kind of so then you get it all through for the

[1:28:38] Ding election and that right, but at least it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna forward for like six months or something

[1:28:45] Anyway, sort of people are still emailing the old address of us so forward in one, but I haven't said, you know, be Jim, Jim, Jim, I'm saying that was not just the email, it's the Google Drive that has all the documents on it.

[1:29:01] So it's more than just email.

[1:29:07] I'm going to turn the working meetings down.

[1:29:10] On Facebook.

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