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[8:05]
All right, good morning. We'll uh call
[8:07]
this Friday, June 6, 2025 joint school
[8:10]
board and Anchorage assembly meeting to
[8:13]
order. It is 10:07 here in the ASD
[8:17]
boardroom. We'll call We've called
[8:19]
ourselves to order. We'll conducting a
[8:20]
roll call at this point. Miss Sullivan,
[8:22]
could you call the role for the ASD
[8:23]
school board?
[8:28]
President Jacobs. Present. Member
[8:31]
Bellamy. Present. Member Hollerman.
[8:34]
Present. Member Donley.
[8:37]
Here. Member Higgins.
[8:40]
Member Lessons.
[8:42]
Here. Member Wilson.
[8:46]
Chair. We have a quorum. Thank you, Miss
[8:49]
Sullivan. Vice Chair Broly.
[8:51]
Thank you. Um, Miss Acres, will you call
[8:53]
the role for members?
[8:56]
Member Baldwin Day, present. Vice Chair
[8:59]
Broly
[9:00]
here. It's my understanding that Chair
[9:02]
Constant is excused. Yes, that's
[9:04]
correct. Member Girker
[9:07]
here. Member Johnson here. Member
[9:10]
Martinez present. Member McCormack here.
[9:13]
Member Meyers.
[9:16]
Member Perez Verdilla.
[9:19]
Member Rivera present. Member
[9:27]
Silvers, she is on YouTube or on
[9:30]
Zoom. Member
[9:35]
Voland chair, you have a quorum. Thank
[9:38]
you.
[9:40]
Okay. Um, Vice President Bellamy, would
[9:42]
you please lead us in the flag salute?
[9:52]
To the republic for it stands, one
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nation under God, indivisible, with
[9:58]
liberty and justice for all.
[10:04]
Member Martinez, would you please read
[10:06]
the land acknowledgement?
[10:08]
We acknowledge that we gather here today
[10:10]
on the traditional lands of the Denina
[10:12]
people of the Upper Cook Inlet. For
[10:14]
thousands of years, the Dina people have
[10:17]
been and continue to be the stewards of
[10:19]
this land. ASD is committed to diversity
[10:22]
and inclusion. It is with honor and
[10:26]
respect that we recognize all indigenous
[10:28]
people who live and learn in our
[10:30]
community.
[10:33]
Thank you, sir. All right. Moving on to
[10:35]
minutes of a previous joint meeting.
[10:37]
Members from both bodies have in front
[10:39]
of them our March 7, 2024 meeting
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minutes.
[10:43]
It should be 25. Thank you, Vice Chair
[10:45]
Broly. Um, so we'll correct that in our
[10:47]
agenda. Please take a moment to read
[10:49]
those and we can note any corrections
[10:51]
before we uh move to approve.
[11:02]
And I will move to approve the March 7,
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2025 minutes.
[11:08]
Is there any
[11:10]
discussion?
[11:11]
Hearing and seeing none, I'm asking for
[11:14]
unanimous consent to approve the March
[11:15]
7th, 2025 meeting
[11:17]
minutes. Hearing no opposition, those
[11:20]
meeting minutes are approved. We're now
[11:21]
at the approval of the agenda. We have
[11:23]
an agenda in front of us. Uh is there a
[11:25]
motion to approve the agenda as drafted?
[11:29]
Move to approve.
[11:31]
Second. Made by member Baldwin Day,
[11:34]
second by member Lessons. Is there any
[11:36]
discussion or amendments before we ask
[11:38]
unanimous consent and approval?
[11:42]
Okay, asking for unanimous consent to
[11:44]
approve the agenda as
[11:46]
drafted. Hearing no opposition, we have
[11:48]
an agenda. Thank you,
[11:50]
everyone. All right, first up is a
[11:53]
public comment. We have one member of
[11:55]
the public who has signed up today. Uh,
[11:57]
Mr. William Baxter. I think we have a
[11:59]
empty seat to my left. If you'd like to
[12:01]
come up to the microphone and join our
[12:04]
table, and you will have three minutes
[12:06]
once you're seated and ready to speak.
[12:17]
Welcome, sir.
[12:20]
I'm William Baxter. I represent uh I
[12:22]
volunteer for FFA and uh I uh a lot of
[12:26]
times I've been speaking here like seven
[12:28]
times I think and then I go over to the
[12:31]
Miss PI on Tuesdays and I speak there
[12:34]
and I also been speaking at uh Mass
[12:38]
School District too on FFA and uh uh I
[12:43]
don't really don't know what I'm doing
[12:44]
but I just let you smart people figure
[12:46]
it out. But anyway, um I uh but I have a
[12:51]
burden for MFA and 4 and other things in
[12:54]
the M like uh uh 4 and and where
[12:59]
whatever else they can get get me into.
[13:02]
I uh I go to uh do a lot of they have me
[13:05]
do I do a lot of things that help to do
[13:09]
it. Thank you.
[13:12]
for your testimony. Thank you.
[13:16]
All right. Before we be begin our um
[13:18]
discussion items and business today, I
[13:19]
just want to note a housekeeping items
[13:20]
for members that um your microphones can
[13:22]
act as you entering the queue because we
[13:24]
should have you labeled on those. So,
[13:25]
please feel free to to um sign up for
[13:27]
the Q to speak, ask questions that way.
[13:29]
With that said, we've completed item D,
[13:31]
public comments. We'll move on to E,
[13:33]
financial planning, uh budget ASD. Uh
[13:36]
Dr. Brian, I believe you'll take lead on
[13:37]
this. Thank you, President Jacobs. So,
[13:40]
I'll go ahead and hand it off to our
[13:41]
chief financial officer, Andy Ratliff.
[13:43]
So, I I will say before he gets started
[13:45]
that this topic is going to get pretty
[13:48]
technical, pretty in the weeds, but I
[13:50]
don't want the people in this room to
[13:51]
forget that we had a very close call on
[13:53]
Monday and there was a very high
[13:55]
probability that right now today we
[13:57]
would have been scrambling to find about
[13:59]
$15 million. So, we're going to get
[14:01]
through some technical stuff. I'm going
[14:02]
to need a lot of your help to really
[14:04]
understand this topic because we need to
[14:06]
make a citywide effort to make sure that
[14:08]
everybody understands what exactly is
[14:10]
happening. Mr. Ratliff. All right, thank
[14:14]
you. Um, so the first part of
[14:21]
this first part of this presentation is
[14:23]
going to look astonishingly similar to
[14:25]
one I gave to the school board about a
[14:26]
month ago for um based on some adbacks
[14:30]
that these are still kind of in flux as
[14:32]
well. So I wanted to touch on them
[14:33]
again. Um, and then we gave that
[14:36]
presentation again to the legislative
[14:38]
committee for the assembly. So, a lot of
[14:40]
you guys in this room have probably seen
[14:41]
this, so I don't want to spend a lot of
[14:43]
time on that, but I want to get some to
[14:45]
some of the new stuff around uh the
[14:47]
disparity test and change recommended
[14:49]
changes to the local contributions
[14:50]
limits. Um, in your packet, you have a
[14:53]
copy of the presentation that I'm going
[14:54]
to give as well as a couple other
[14:56]
documents. Um, the second attachment in
[14:59]
there is going to be the the
[15:02]
determination from the state that this
[15:03]
the local changes were an emergency or
[15:06]
deemed an emergency and then what those
[15:08]
changes were. And then the third
[15:09]
document in there is going to be the the
[15:12]
federal government's ruling on the
[15:13]
disparity test for the state. So you'll
[15:16]
have all those. You can read through
[15:17]
them. The one from the federal
[15:18]
government's kind of a hard read, but
[15:19]
it's uh it's good information. Um we'll
[15:22]
kind of try to make that a little more
[15:25]
understandable as we go along.
[15:34]
Uh so the the board presented a budget
[15:37]
revision that included about a $560 BSA
[15:40]
equivalent increase above what the state
[15:43]
had in statute. Um this was based on
[15:45]
HB57 passing out of the House and Senate
[15:48]
with 48 out of 60 legislators voting in
[15:50]
support. Um that bill increased the base
[15:53]
student allocation by
[15:55]
$700 and then had a 10% increase in
[15:58]
transportation and then some CTE
[16:00]
multipliers and other student
[16:02]
proficiency incentives that were based
[16:04]
on another bill passing. Um that's SB
[16:07]
113 which would be the digital tax or
[16:10]
the tax on digital
[16:12]
um uh vendors I guess. So, I'm not sure
[16:15]
the status of that, but
[16:18]
uh I thought it' been transmitted to the
[16:21]
governor. So, we do anticipate getting
[16:23]
some more money based on this. Uh the
[16:25]
governor vetoed this bill originally and
[16:27]
then it was voted to override. So, this
[16:30]
still has a the governor will still have
[16:33]
another veto opportunity on the
[16:34]
operating budget to trim out education
[16:37]
funding out of there if he so chooses.
[16:39]
Um but that's not due back until the
[16:41]
19th of June.
[16:48]
Um, so really the reasons that the board
[16:50]
gave for increasing that was the
[16:52]
governor's bill actually included a $560
[16:54]
BSA increase. Um, onetime funding of
[16:58]
$680 BSA was what we received this year.
[17:01]
So really taking the calculated risk
[17:03]
needed to help retain our staff and not
[17:05]
have mass
[17:07]
layoffs. What was added back was uh
[17:11]
added we had it originally a plus4 ptr
[17:14]
increase or class size increase for uh
[17:16]
all grade levels. We were able to get
[17:18]
that down to a plus one. So we still are
[17:20]
increasing class sizes. Um reverse some
[17:23]
of the cuts to holdbacks gifted adding
[17:26]
our charter funding as well as some
[17:28]
other items in here that the board chose
[17:30]
to add back. about $30 million in
[17:32]
instruct like direct instruction to our
[17:34]
classrooms about 214 FTE were added back through this amendment. So
[17:39]
this is really what kind of prevented us
[17:40]
from having to do these mass
[17:43]
layoffs. Additionally, restored
[17:46]
librarians, nurses, uh some teaching
[17:48]
experts and teaching learning for
[17:50]
instruct or um interventions as well as
[17:53]
some principles, library assistants and
[17:55]
counselors. another 59 FTE just
[17:57]
instructional support um for a total of
[18:00]
about a little under 40
[18:03]
million. We still do have a significant
[18:05]
number of reductions in place even after
[18:07]
adding those back including the 70 F 70
[18:11]
FTE for the PTR adjustment of plus one
[18:14]
or 57 FTE sorry and then a loss of
[18:17]
enrollment adjustment. So as our
[18:19]
enrollment went down we were able to
[18:21]
reduce the number of staff needed to and
[18:23]
keep the same class sizes. Um a few
[18:26]
other things we're able to that we kept
[18:29]
program based teachers hold back
[18:30]
teachers were kind of an addition
[18:33]
um but we're still reduced principles
[18:36]
some librarians nurses and clerical due
[18:38]
to uh the schools that we closed in Naka
[18:42]
Valley and Lake Hood.
[18:46]
You can read through the list of the
[18:47]
reductions there for instruction. We
[18:49]
also have some reductions still in place
[18:51]
about 20 FTEE for special services. Uh
[18:55]
by and large those are coming out of
[18:57]
um mostly out between way and special
[19:00]
elementary special education as we're
[19:02]
trying to consolidate some
[19:04]
classrooms. Additionally, another 30 FTE
[19:07]
coming out of our admin pool or about 7
[19:10]
and a half million including you know
[19:12]
more folks from accounting, purchasing,
[19:14]
HR. you know, we continue to have
[19:16]
declines in those in those ranks. It
[19:20]
then some of that the administrative
[19:22]
added duty services, supplies, and
[19:24]
equipment, that's depreciation to
[19:26]
replace heavy equipment.
[19:29]
Um, a lot of major maintenance funds,
[19:31]
things like that that we we have to help
[19:33]
support our schools, but those are still
[19:35]
going to be going away under this
[19:36]
proposal.
[19:37]
Um just a sign of the times I
[19:41]
guess really you know the risks and
[19:43]
benefits if it's if the amount if some
[19:45]
amount less than 560 BSA is allocated uh
[19:49]
could result in hiring freezes, funding
[19:51]
reductions and liquidated fund balance
[19:54]
reserves
[19:56]
uh that we already have in place for
[19:57]
other other items. But it does allow for
[20:00]
the placement of staff prior to the end
[20:01]
of school and retaining educators. But
[20:03]
this again, the governor can still veto
[20:05]
those
[20:06]
funds. Um, as far as the outlook goes
[20:09]
for FY27 with this in place, you know,
[20:11]
we still have a significant deficit as
[20:14]
we are using about $50 million in fund
[20:17]
balance to be able to to shore up this
[20:19]
budget. So, kind of the the quick
[20:21]
calculation on this is we take our
[20:23]
expected revenue for FY27 or for 26 uh
[20:27]
back out the one-time funding and then
[20:30]
apply an inflationary factor to what
[20:31]
we're planning on spending. So, after we
[20:34]
back out the one-time funding, we're at
[20:35]
about $585 million of ongoing revenue
[20:38]
and about $653 million of ongoing um
[20:42]
expenditures. Then we add a lot of
[20:44]
delayed purchases for IT equipment such
[20:47]
as Chromebooks and some of that fleet
[20:49]
equipment too and curriculum instruction
[20:51]
things like that that we need to that we
[20:54]
can't delay forever essentially. So that
[20:56]
gets to about a $75 million deficit that
[20:58]
we're looking off looking at for FY27.
[21:02]
So this conversation doesn't get fixed
[21:03]
with HP57 p even passing the way it is.
[21:08]
Um so there's a lot of things we don't
[21:10]
know still. There's unsettled labor
[21:12]
contracts, enrollment variances, uh
[21:14]
tariffs, met medical costs, utility rate
[21:16]
changes, things that are still kind of
[21:18]
in play for next for FY27 that aren't
[21:21]
really built into this projection as
[21:28]
much. Clicking the wrong button here.
[21:31]
Okay, so this is where we get into more
[21:33]
of the new stuff that wasn't on the last
[21:35]
presentation. So for those of you who
[21:38]
saw the earlier version of this, um
[21:40]
here's where we can start paying
[21:42]
attention again, I guess.
[21:44]
So So uh also included in the operating
[21:48]
budget for the state was a 35 reduction
[21:50]
35% reduction of state bond debt
[21:52]
reimbursement for any voter approved
[21:54]
bond that was um approved prior to
[21:56]
January of 2015. So we still have quite
[21:59]
a few outstanding bonds that we're
[22:01]
paying down from that time period um as
[22:04]
we do 20-year bonds. So, this equates to
[22:05]
about $4.5 million of funding that the
[22:08]
state is not going to give us for next
[22:10]
year that's going to have to be picked
[22:11]
up by the Anchorage taxpayers. Um,
[22:14]
typically we'll float that with our cash
[22:15]
flow and our def our fund balance will
[22:17]
go into a deficit in our debt service
[22:18]
fund and then we'll request that back
[22:20]
the following year since we've already
[22:22]
made our tax request for this calendar
[22:25]
year. Um, but that's just one of the
[22:28]
unfortunate thing and the governor can
[22:29]
still veto more funds from that line
[22:31]
item as well through the operating
[22:33]
budget. Any questions on the bond debt?
[22:36]
This is something we went through for
[22:37]
several years. Um, starting with
[22:39]
Governor Walker. Um, we actually got
[22:42]
that money back eventually and then now
[22:45]
they're starting to cut it again. Um,
[22:47]
just want to note for the record that
[22:48]
member Silvers joined us at 10:17 and
[22:51]
then if any members with a question
[22:52]
would signify so by turning on their
[22:54]
microphone, which will get you in the
[22:55]
queue, that would be great. We've got
[22:58]
Vice Chair Raleigh first. Thanks. Um,
[23:00]
and thanks for the update on school bond
[23:02]
debt reimbursement. So just to be clear,
[23:05]
this says prior to 2015. So this is not
[23:09]
um bonds that passed, you know, this
[23:11]
year or any prior or prior year in the
[23:13]
last 10 years. Is that right? Correct.
[23:15]
So um back in as probably May of
[23:19]
2015, the legislature voted to put a
[23:22]
moratorium on bond debt reimbursement
[23:24]
for any new projects. They did
[23:26]
retroactively apply that to January 1
[23:28]
after we had actually passed a bond um
[23:31]
in April.
[23:34]
So still don't forgive them for
[23:37]
that. But so but yeah, so it's anything past January 1st of 2015 never
[23:43]
had bond debt reimbursement to begin
[23:44]
with. So they had nothing to cut. Thank
[23:47]
you. And then just a quick followup
[23:49]
about uh how much uh bond debt is there
[23:53]
from that time period because I know it drops off every year as we pay off
[23:56]
bonds, but what is the kind of order of
[23:57]
magnitude for um this what's left in
[24:00]
this category?
[24:02]
That is a good question that I don't
[24:04]
know the answer to off the top of my
[24:06]
head, but we can certainly get that to
[24:08]
you. Yeah, a followup is fine. Thanks.
[24:10]
Thank you. Um, member Johnson. Yeah, I
[24:13]
think Vice Chair Broly kind of hinted at
[24:15]
the question. Um, but I'm looking at the last line here. You said that the
[24:18]
governor can still veto more funds if he
[24:20]
chooses to do so. Do we have a sense of
[24:22]
sort of what the the ceiling is on the
[24:24]
potential impact to Anchorage taxpayers?
[24:27]
I want to say it was
[24:29]
like Jim, you don't
[24:32]
It's like 18 million maybe.
[24:36]
Would that be like 18 in total or 18
[24:38]
above the four and a half? That's um in
[24:40]
total. I think it was less than 20 in
[24:42]
total. Okay.
[24:46]
Well, I bet I don't have that in front
[24:48]
of me either, but it was um because it's
[24:52]
you know those bonds are getting older
[24:54]
and phasing out. So, we have less of
[24:56]
them to pay off now.
[24:58]
Um, but we can get back with you on that
[25:01]
too to make sure you guys have accurate
[25:02]
numbers on that. But they could
[25:03]
potentially veto all of it. Okay. Thank
[25:06]
you.
[25:08]
Uh, the kind of good news I guess would
[25:11]
be that bond debt reimbursement for new
[25:13]
propositions after July 1, 2025. Uh,
[25:15]
we'll have a 40 to 50% reimbursement.
[25:18]
The legislature did try to put through
[25:20]
another moratorum that would extend this
[25:22]
a new a few more years um but that never
[25:25]
passed through. So, right now that goes
[25:27]
back into effect. Um, again, those
[25:29]
funds, if they do approve them, will be
[25:31]
subject to appropriation and they can
[25:33]
always put another moratorium back on
[25:35]
when they come back into session in
[25:36]
January. So, certainly not out of the
[25:38]
weeds, but at this point in time, uh,
[25:41]
after after July 1, 2025, new
[25:44]
propositions would be eligible for some
[25:45]
reimbursement. Quick question from
[25:48]
member Brley. Yeah. So, I'm just doing
[25:50]
the the timing math. Obviously, you
[25:52]
know, even if they say they're going to
[25:53]
reimburse and there's no money to do
[25:55]
that, that's a challenge. Um, and then
[25:57]
just a side note, if folks are wondering
[25:59]
why are my property taxes going up for
[26:00]
the next the last 10 years, this is part
[26:03]
of that that we are full paying full
[26:04]
cost for B. Anyway, my question is um so
[26:08]
thinking about we or we um approve all
[26:11]
bond funding by the end of January
[26:13]
essentially for the April 2026 ballot.
[26:16]
Um so I guess my question is I know it's
[26:18]
speculative right now. Is ASD
[26:21]
considering how is ASD factoring this
[26:24]
into kind of what level of bond package
[26:25]
that you would put forward? I know it's
[26:27]
early um but if we're assuming that the
[26:29]
legislature is going to put that
[26:31]
moratorium back in place when they have
[26:32]
the chance um that obviously impacts how
[26:35]
much we would be paying. So I'm just
[26:36]
curious if there's some early thinking
[26:37]
on that.
[26:40]
I have to I can answer that. We have a
[26:43]
meeting next week to start discussing
[26:44]
that and start running the numbers and
[26:47]
uh how we might be looking at that.
[26:49]
We've been trying to stick at under 65
[26:51]
million. Um those bonds seem to have
[26:55]
passed over the last many years and when
[26:58]
you go over it it uh we have struggled.
[27:01]
So uh we're we're going to go back and
[27:03]
start working that next week. Um it'll
[27:06]
be this fall that we'll go to the board
[27:07]
for the first time with the new CIP and
[27:09]
the bond request.
[27:11]
I'll jump in from the board perspective
[27:13]
just to add clarity that um I I don't
[27:15]
think I've seen consensus from the
[27:17]
legislature that there's the support to
[27:19]
extend the school bond debt moratorum um
[27:21]
which is reasonable frankly because um
[27:24]
public education buildings are crumbling
[27:26]
across our state.
[27:28]
um the moratorum must end and we must
[27:31]
find money to u begin investing in
[27:34]
schools u from a capital perspective and
[27:37]
so if there is an interest from the
[27:39]
legislature in extending that moratorum
[27:40]
I think we need pretty strong direction
[27:42]
uh because frankly that investment is
[27:44]
needed and so appreciate the question I
[27:46]
think some of it's still to be
[27:48]
determined and then I see member lessons
[27:49]
in the queue thank you um I wanted to
[27:52]
ask the administration to maybe just
[27:54]
loosely elaborate on the scale of the
[27:57]
backlog of maintenance. We have a great
[27:59]
chart. It looks like this. And um what's
[28:03]
the scale of our backlog at this point?
[28:07]
Roughly can answer that. If you go back
[28:09]
to 2012, we had about $170 million in
[28:13]
debt. Um oh, I'm sorry. We had $170
[28:17]
million in deferred maintenance and we
[28:20]
had about $750 million in total bond
[28:23]
debt. Um now we're well under 500
[28:26]
million in total bond debt since then.
[28:29]
Um but with the moratorium kicking in in
[28:32]
15 our deferred maintenance is now well
[28:35]
over 1.4
[28:39]
billion. And just as a quick followup
[28:42]
and that that's everything from a major
[28:44]
renovation at say Bartlett High School
[28:46]
to
[28:47]
fixing front doors that have been
[28:49]
described as so stripped that you can't
[28:52]
hang, you know, you can't hang them
[28:54]
anymore. Correct. It's every major
[28:56]
component of a building from windows and
[28:59]
doors to heaters and boilers and roofs
[29:01]
and everything else that have life
[29:03]
cycles attached to them.
[29:06]
um you know at some point the numbers so
[29:10]
large that even if you had the money the
[29:12]
there aren't enough people in Alaska and
[29:15]
enough resources to actually do all of
[29:18]
that maintenance.
[29:20]
Um
[29:22]
so you know I I don't know how you could
[29:25]
tie it to an exact dollar amount because
[29:28]
we haven't gone out for bids for that
[29:30]
many projects. Um, but that's really
[29:32]
tied to what it cost the day we put it
[29:34]
in to replace the exact equivalent of
[29:38]
that item. Um, and of course there's
[29:40]
hundreds or thousands of those
[29:42]
components within a high school that add
[29:45]
up to the total dollar amount. Thank
[29:47]
you, Member Lessons and Mr. Anderson. I
[29:49]
see member Higgins in the queue. Yeah,
[29:51]
I'll just mention that when we look at
[29:53]
the deferred maintenance, of course, it
[29:54]
varies as the type of maintenance and it
[29:56]
varies by school, but when I went
[29:58]
through Bartlett, which was recommended
[30:00]
as the highest priority, I was shocked
[30:03]
with the level of problems with roofs,
[30:05]
with ventilation, with the with the
[30:07]
heating system, uh, everything about it
[30:09]
is so severe. Um, it's it's really
[30:12]
shocking. The top floor, you got your
[30:14]
buckets, you've got your cool, it's not
[30:17]
hot during the summer, it's not warm.
[30:19]
you go downstairs and you got
[30:21]
temperature differences between one room
[30:22]
and another uh which is dramatic
[30:25]
temperature difference. So the the
[30:27]
severity of the deferred maintenance for
[30:30]
some schools is extreme and even some of
[30:32]
our newer schools I saw had had to deal
[30:35]
with buckets to do some roof repairs. Uh
[30:38]
and I know that they can't do more than
[30:40]
so many you know one roof a year or two
[30:42]
roofs a year and it takes two years. So
[30:44]
when you divide that up with 90
[30:46]
something schools, you realize if if our
[30:48]
roofs don't last 50 years, we're in
[30:50]
trouble. And that doesn't allow for the
[30:53]
time already that most of these roofs
[30:55]
are so old. So we're so far behind from
[30:58]
my perspective and looking at it that
[31:00]
it's really um a scary situation that we
[31:03]
can't ignore and just let keep growing.
[31:06]
We've got to do something about it.
[31:10]
Member Johnson. Yeah. Could you guys
[31:12]
share that list of of uh deferred
[31:15]
maintenance items?
[31:17]
I'm getting a yes from our chief
[31:19]
operating officer. Um and so we will get
[31:21]
that to uh the both bodies. Great. Thank
[31:24]
you. All right. Yeah. I would just like
[31:27]
to clarify that's the things we know.
[31:30]
Um you know there's there's no such
[31:33]
thing as an absolute perfect list for 91
[31:36]
buildings. We've cut maintenance by 25%
[31:40]
um in the past decade plus. We're
[31:43]
thousands of job orders behind. Um we
[31:46]
cut it again for our next school year.
[31:49]
Um, so please understand that what you
[31:51]
will be looking at is a really, really
[31:54]
long list, but there certainly are
[31:56]
things that just broke this morning that
[31:58]
wouldn't be on that list, and it
[31:59]
wouldn't be inclusive of every job order
[32:02]
that hasn't been looked at by
[32:04]
maintenance yet to determine what might
[32:06]
be wrong or what might be required to
[32:08]
fix it. So, it's all in context. Um,
[32:12]
it's it's a really long list. Thanks.
[32:18]
All right. So, next section we're going
[32:20]
to focus on the impact aid deduction.
[32:22]
This is kind of what's been in the going
[32:24]
around this week and changes local
[32:26]
contribution. I do apologize for the
[32:29]
wordiness of these slide the next few
[32:31]
slides. Um, but I wanted to have on the
[32:33]
record um just so someone comes reads
[32:36]
this afterwards better understanding of
[32:38]
how this impact aid uh how we why we
[32:41]
received the money and how the deduction
[32:42]
works. Um so the gist of it is some but
[32:46]
not all districts receive federal impact
[32:48]
aid funding from the federal government
[32:49]
and that's due to having untaxable
[32:51]
property in those districts. By and
[32:54]
large it's military bases or tribal
[32:55]
lands. It's kind of a payment in lie of
[32:57]
taxes that the federal government offers
[32:59]
since they own the land and don't pay
[33:01]
property taxes to the districts. Uh the
[33:04]
federal government allows the state to
[33:05]
reduce state funding to districts that
[33:07]
receive impact aid money if the state
[33:09]
has equitable funding between districts.
[33:11]
Essentially, it means the highest and
[33:13]
lowest funded districts have to be
[33:15]
funded within 25% each other um through
[33:18]
a combination of state and local
[33:20]
contributions. That's adjusted. There's
[33:22]
like some weighted things that go into
[33:24]
that or come out of it, I guess, like
[33:26]
for, you know, there's an area cost
[33:28]
differential between districts. So, it's
[33:30]
more expensive to do business in Bethl
[33:32]
than it is in Anchorage type thing. So
[33:33]
they take those weights out of this
[33:35]
calculation, but the gist of it is on a
[33:37]
per student basis, they want to be
[33:39]
within 25% to be comparable um and pass
[33:43]
this what they call the disparity
[33:47]
test. Each year the the federal
[33:49]
government conducts this disparity test
[33:51]
and that calculates our per student
[33:52]
funding to ensure that the state and
[33:54]
local uh funding to districts remains
[33:56]
within that limitation.
[34:00]
By passing the disparity test, the state
[34:02]
can then reduce the amount of state
[34:03]
funding to the districts by some
[34:04]
percentage of the amount of impact aid
[34:06]
received, which can be up to 90% of the
[34:09]
eligible amount. There are a few
[34:11]
carveouts for special education that we
[34:14]
get impact aid money for um that come
[34:16]
out of the total amount that the 90%
[34:18]
applies to, but it's not a big
[34:20]
percentage of it.
[34:22]
um the 90% can go down if a local
[34:25]
government uh if if they have a local
[34:27]
government like REAS will get uh impact
[34:30]
aid money too. So all the REAS have 90%
[34:33]
of their impact aid taken by the state.
[34:36]
Um but anyway that can be
[34:38]
reduced a little bit if the local
[34:40]
government spends more than the required
[34:42]
minimum. Like for example, if Anchorage
[34:44]
Assembly appropriated 200 million for
[34:47]
education, but only a hundred of it was
[34:48]
required, then the state's deduction
[34:51]
would be 50%. So 100 million divided
[34:53]
into the total that's given. Uh that's a
[34:56]
little more nuanced than that because
[34:57]
they take in some other local revenues,
[34:58]
but that's really the gist of how this
[35:00]
formula works and how that how the
[35:02]
deduction works. Um in terms of dollars,
[35:04]
Anchorage gets about $16 million a year
[35:07]
for impact aid. Uh the state is planning
[35:09]
on taking about six and a half million
[35:11]
of that for next year as the reduction
[35:13]
based on these formulas. Um so that's
[35:16]
kind of the lay of the land of how the
[35:19]
federal impact aid works or how we why
[35:21]
we get the money. Um and then why the
[35:24]
state reduces it. So on May 16th, the
[35:27]
federal impact aid office notified the
[35:29]
state that they failed the disparity
[35:31]
test. Um, and why they failed it is the
[35:34]
next bullet point because the state
[35:35]
improperly excluded transfers between
[35:37]
the local education agency's general
[35:39]
fund and its special revenue fund for
[35:41]
transportation and then improperly
[35:43]
included transfers from the
[35:44]
transportation fund back to the general
[35:46]
fund as revenue. Um, so it was really
[35:49]
based on this coding of transfers in
[35:53]
inter fund transfers versus actual
[35:54]
receipts from the municipality. Um I
[35:57]
don't want it to be lost that had the
[35:59]
state kept up with transportation
[36:01]
funding or made it a reimburseable
[36:03]
expense uh this they would have passed
[36:05]
the disparity test. Um I think years and
[36:08]
probably 15 or 20 years ago they used
[36:10]
the program used to be reimburseable
[36:12]
100% reimburseable by the state for
[36:14]
transportation. Uh in 201 I want to say
[36:18]
15 16 they made it as a per student
[36:20]
amount based on those actual costs.
[36:23]
inflation proof or I guess in 2012 maybe
[36:25]
but then they inflation proofed it for
[36:27]
three years and then since then it's
[36:28]
been flat um uh costs have gone up
[36:32]
considerably for transportation the
[36:34]
minimum wage for transportation is ti or
[36:37]
bus drivers is tied to two times the
[36:38]
minimum wage so we have to pay like in
[36:41]
2016 1516 our minimum wage was $17.50 50
[36:45]
or two times the minimum wage of$,750
[36:48]
for next year that's going to go up to
[36:49]
$26. So our costs continue to escalate
[36:52]
uh really fast on transportation without
[36:55]
any additional support from the state.
[36:58]
But having to transfer money districts
[36:59]
having to transfer money in and out
[37:01]
between those two funds is what caused
[37:03]
the disparity test
[37:05]
failure. Uh there is a 60-day appeal
[37:08]
period on federal impact aid for the for
[37:11]
the failure of that. I don't believe the
[37:13]
states filed anything yet with the feds,
[37:15]
but they have indicated their intent to
[37:16]
appeal the decision.
[37:21]
Um, for the record, member Wilson just
[37:23]
joined us online at 10:35. I see a few
[37:26]
questions in the queue. We'll go to
[37:27]
member Don Lee first. Andy, do we
[37:30]
have the actual federal calculation that
[37:34]
they came up with the
[37:36]
conclusion of disparity stating the
[37:39]
disparity? because it's always been a
[37:41]
puzzle to me that we have a system where
[37:44]
there's some school districts where per
[37:46]
student they're getting five times as
[37:48]
much as we are in Anchorage and the
[37:51]
criteria is 25%. So that's like 20 times
[37:56]
as much over the the 25% disparity
[38:00]
target and yet they don't that seems to
[38:04]
pass muster while this transmuting of
[38:07]
transportation dollars didn't. Right.
[38:09]
And that's taken and you're exactly
[38:12]
right on that. But in within the
[38:14]
disparity test calculations, they have
[38:16]
these weighted amounts. So one of the
[38:19]
weights that they calculate into is that
[38:21]
district cost factor, which is one of
[38:23]
the big reasons that school districts
[38:25]
get considerably more like in some of
[38:28]
those rural areas than we do um on an
[38:31]
actual dollars per student. But once
[38:33]
they remove those weights for the cost
[38:35]
of living, the school size adjustment,
[38:38]
those things, um that's really what
[38:41]
factors into some districts having five
[38:43]
times the revenue we do or per student
[38:46]
anyway. So they they remove those
[38:48]
weights as part of the calculation, I
[38:50]
guess. Um but within the and I think
[38:54]
you'd probably have to go look at the
[38:55]
version the PDF that's online attached
[38:58]
to the agenda. Um, within there there is
[39:00]
a link to the spreadsheet that the feds
[39:02]
used to calculate that out if you're
[39:04]
interested in it. Um, and then the
[39:07]
narrative on the PDF also kind of walks
[39:09]
through how some of that's done.
[39:12]
Thank you, member Donley. We'll go to
[39:14]
member Baldwin Day.
[39:18]
Thank you. Uh, would you repeat those
[39:20]
numbers that you um that you mentioned
[39:23]
for the FIA deduction for this year?
[39:26]
Right. So we receive about 16 million in
[39:29]
total from federal impact aid and the
[39:31]
reduction is going to be about six and a
[39:32]
half
[39:34]
million maybe.
[39:37]
Thank you. We'll go to member Johnson.
[39:42]
Yeah, thank you. So you mentioned the district cost factor formula which
[39:45]
as I understand it's been quite some
[39:47]
time since the state has revised that
[39:49]
and maybe it doesn't reflect reality.
[39:51]
I'm seeing some nods but you said they they remove those waste. when they
[39:55]
remove those waste, do they just take
[39:56]
the district cost factor formula and
[39:58]
sort of use that to sort of reverse
[40:01]
engineer the funding or or are they
[40:03]
looking at, you know, the actual
[40:05]
disparities in in terms of the the real costs of between the districts,
[40:11]
right? Because we're saying I I think
[40:12]
it's been suggested that the real costs
[40:14]
are not actually reflected in the
[40:16]
district cost factor. Um I'm seeing more
[40:18]
nods. So what is is that playing into
[40:22]
this that that disparity there?
[40:26]
No, they because they remove those those
[40:28]
weights using the district cost factor,
[40:31]
right? So like the Anchorage has a
[40:33]
district cost factor of one. Um some
[40:36]
districts have up to two. So they get,
[40:38]
you know, 100 times more funding than we
[40:40]
do on that district cost factor. So on a
[40:43]
purely per student basis, they would get
[40:45]
twice as much as us. But they, you know,
[40:48]
they account for that. the cost of
[40:50]
living in those communities are even
[40:52]
though the data is 25 years old now they
[40:55]
still fed still view that as valid.
[40:58]
Okay. So that's that's that's not a
[41:01]
factor or problem here.
[41:03]
That's really not what covered. Thanks
[41:06]
member lessons. I just wanted to um
[41:10]
retrospectively say thank you to the
[41:12]
assembly for your collaboration in
[41:14]
passing the joint resolution back in
[41:16]
early January on your side of things. Um
[41:19]
there was a priority in that joint
[41:21]
resolution about updating the district
[41:24]
cost factor uh which is dates the data
[41:27]
dates from 2000 to 2003.
[41:34]
Yeah, this one's going to be hard to
[41:36]
read, so hopefully you can see it on
[41:38]
your PDF,
[41:39]
but this is a potential scenario where
[41:43]
the state had failed the disparity test
[41:45]
and then prorates that lost because it's
[41:48]
about an $81 million problem for the
[41:50]
state to fail this test because they
[41:51]
deduct $81 million or so from districts
[41:55]
that receive in that's what that the
[41:57]
deduction comes in. and it deducts it
[41:58]
from state funding. Um, so if they short
[42:01]
f if they do that and have to give that
[42:03]
money back to all the districts but
[42:05]
don't have that 81 million within the
[42:07]
operating budget, then they're going to
[42:09]
apply that most likely prorate that
[42:12]
amount to all the
[42:14]
districts. So on this one, you'll see
[42:18]
for all the districts the adding back
[42:20]
the federal impact aid funds that were
[42:21]
deducted, you can see Anchorage is on
[42:23]
there about 6.6 million.
[42:26]
um that's how much they deduct from us
[42:28]
and this is all the districts again. And
[42:30]
then if they were to take that 81
[42:32]
million that they would have to give
[42:33]
back to districts and say now this
[42:35]
formula is shortf funded and prorate
[42:37]
that out based on it's essentially our
[42:39]
adjusted average daily membership. Then
[42:42]
that prrated funding reduction would be
[42:43]
there. So you see the addition of 81
[42:46]
million and then subtraction of 81
[42:48]
million and then how it affects each
[42:49]
district. So for Anchorage we they give
[42:52]
us the
[42:53]
6.6 6.6 6 million back for what they've
[42:56]
deducted. But then if we prorrate out
[42:58]
that 81 million, our share of it's about
[43:00]
22.5 million. So a net decrease of
[43:03]
nearly 16 million. Um so that's just the
[43:08]
problem with the disparity test. We'll
[43:09]
get into the problems with the local
[43:12]
contribution limitation here shortly,
[43:14]
but really just how this affects. And so
[43:16]
there's going to be this huge shift in
[43:18]
where the money goes. Same pot of money,
[43:21]
but but who gets it changes
[43:22]
dramatically. you'd see a net island
[43:24]
getting a 535% increase in their state
[43:27]
funding.
[43:29]
Um, further putting this formula more
[43:32]
out of uh balance. I think, you know, if
[43:34]
this happens and if they don't pass that
[43:36]
disparity test ultimately or they lose
[43:38]
the appeal, then the states could may
[43:40]
have to come back and try to rewrite
[43:42]
that foundation formula pretty
[43:44]
quickly. That's my read on it.
[43:47]
Member Donley, I just think it's
[43:49]
important to point out that we're the
[43:51]
only state that is required to comply
[43:54]
with this disparity test because we're
[43:56]
the only state that doesn't pass through
[43:58]
these federal funds to the districts.
[44:00]
Might clip, that's correct. We're the
[44:02]
only state that still uses this federal
[44:04]
impact a disparity test as a mechanism
[44:06]
to reduce state funding. Every other
[44:08]
state's gone away with it. I think
[44:10]
that's probably the feds probably have
[44:12]
some
[44:14]
um desire to offload the program and get
[44:17]
rid of Alaska, too.
[44:19]
So, member Martinez,
[44:22]
thank you. Uh just a question
[44:25]
about shifting populations of student
[44:28]
sizes across these various jurisdictions
[44:30]
and the impact to the dollars in those
[44:32]
different places. Um, is that is that a factor at all when we we're talking
[44:39]
about the cost that goes to these
[44:40]
different jurisdictions that seem
[44:42]
exceptionally high and
[44:44]
disproportionately out of whack versus
[44:45]
our needs?
[44:48]
That happens some like especially when
[44:49]
you get in the really small communities
[44:51]
because there's a within the foundation
[44:52]
formula there's a school size
[44:54]
adjustment. So if you have 10 kids in a
[44:57]
school, you get, you know, you know,
[45:00]
multiples more money for having those 10
[45:02]
kids for each kid than you would for a
[45:04]
kid with a student with like 400
[45:07]
um a school with 400 kids. So there's
[45:09]
kind of this economies of scale that
[45:12]
they try to pay for with the inverse
[45:14]
essentially the the the smaller amount
[45:16]
of population student wise you have
[45:19]
let's say from economic displacement
[45:21]
from a rural
[45:23]
community as they shrink in student size
[45:26]
the cost for
[45:28]
running the buildings and everything
[45:30]
else still stays the the same. So the
[45:34]
dollars now go higher proportionate to
[45:36]
the amount of students even if they're
[45:38]
lower amounts. So they get more money
[45:39]
essentially. They wouldn't get more
[45:41]
money, but they would get the same
[45:43]
amount of money. Not quite. It's not. So
[45:45]
it's kind of a sliding scale. So they'll
[45:47]
get a little they would get a little bit
[45:49]
less for having less students. You don't
[45:51]
ever get more for having less students,
[45:53]
but that impact is sheltered through
[45:56]
getting a little bit more for each
[45:58]
student the fewer students you have in
[45:59]
each school. Thank you.
[46:03]
Member Baldwin Day. I I just want to
[46:05]
clarify what I think I heard member
[46:07]
Donley say, which was we're the only
[46:09]
state that still uses this test, this
[46:11]
formula, because we are the only state
[46:14]
that does not drop federal funding
[46:17]
directly into communities. Did I hear
[46:19]
that correctly?
[46:22]
Um, yeah, I think they probably all
[46:25]
changed their formulas around too when
[46:27]
they're to to make that fit if they were
[46:29]
have operating under kind of these same
[46:31]
conditions before. But all the states
[46:33]
have unique for the funding formula. So
[46:35]
I can't say for sure what they did to
[46:37]
address the issue to get when they got
[46:39]
rid of it.
[46:41]
Member Holland, I was just going to add
[46:44]
that, you know, we're we're in a state
[46:46]
where constitutionally the state is
[46:47]
responsible for education
[46:50]
funding, but a big chunk of the state
[46:53]
doesn't contribute locally in a way that
[46:56]
Anchorage, Fairbanks, Juno,
[46:58]
um, and and other localities do. and
[47:01]
you're required to
[47:04]
um but in addition this this sort of
[47:07]
comes on top of all that just
[47:10]
uh it's it's frustrating to see the
[47:13]
state do what they're
[47:17]
doing. So that's our the disparity test
[47:20]
and then kind of the implications of
[47:21]
failing the disparity test. Um, next we
[47:25]
want to get into the changing in the
[47:26]
local contribution limits that was
[47:28]
proposed to the state board on Tuesday
[47:30]
and
[47:31]
Wednesday. Um, and the state attempted
[47:33]
to use that failure of the impact a
[47:35]
disparity test to try and change the
[47:37]
local contribution regulations through
[47:39]
an emergency action.
[47:42]
Um, this data or had been discussing
[47:45]
this for probably a couple years now
[47:46]
wanting to change these local the
[47:48]
regulations surrounding that. assure
[47:50]
districts we'd have plenty of time and
[47:52]
implement around in
[47:54]
FY27. Monday morning I went and looked
[47:56]
at the state board of education's um
[47:59]
just to see when the meeting was. Never
[48:01]
looked at an agenda before for the state
[48:03]
board. It's generally not finance stuff.
[48:05]
Just happened to get on there Monday
[48:06]
morning and look at the agenda and it
[48:08]
had the emergency order for or emergency
[48:10]
regulation changes for local
[48:12]
contributions. That's going to have that
[48:13]
could have significant impacts for all
[48:16]
districts across the state. So, didn't
[48:18]
have an advanced notice that that agenda
[48:20]
item was out there. I don't know when it
[48:22]
was actually posted to their website,
[48:23]
but that first I saw of it was Monday
[48:25]
morning. None of my colleagues across
[48:27]
the state had seen it either. Um, and
[48:30]
the intent of it was to go into effect
[48:32]
on Wednesday after they voted on it for
[48:34]
this fiscal year. So, these changes
[48:35]
would have gone to effect. Um, so we
[48:38]
found out about it Monday morning. By
[48:40]
Monday around I think 12 or 1, the state
[48:43]
had published a new version that said
[48:45]
they would go out for their normal
[48:46]
30-day comment period. And then by 4:30,
[48:49]
I believe the superintendents got an
[48:50]
email saying no, it's back to an
[48:52]
emergency. Um, so in your packet, you do
[48:54]
have there the state's rationale for it
[48:57]
being an emergency. Um, if you want to
[48:59]
read through it, but ultimately the
[49:01]
state board voted to go through the
[49:03]
normal process with the 30-day uh period
[49:06]
as well. But if I could just add,
[49:09]
somebody thought, because we just spent
[49:11]
40 minutes talking about a highly
[49:13]
technical topic, somebody thought it was
[49:16]
a good idea to push this through without
[49:19]
people at this table knowing this
[49:21]
situation, without people in every
[49:23]
single one of our communities about this
[49:25]
situation. So, I just want to put that
[49:27]
out there on the record.
[49:31]
Well, and I guess just to add
[49:34]
clarity, which I think is appropriate
[49:36]
and fair for transparency purposes, the
[49:38]
very least our Department of Education
[49:40]
and Early Development Commissioner was
[49:42]
one of those people. So, I think it's
[49:44]
okay to to name that public process um
[49:46]
as inadequate as it was. Thank you.
[49:50]
Right. So, this will get us I mean, and
[49:52]
these limits would have had some really
[49:54]
farreaching implications for us. um it
[49:57]
would have limited the additional
[49:58]
contribution that the city's able to
[50:00]
give us for transportation and prek
[50:01]
funding. That's about a $15 million
[50:03]
impact for next year. And then there's a
[50:06]
whole host of unknown limitations. It's
[50:08]
based on vague language changes that are
[50:10]
was in their proposed regulations.
[50:14]
Mr. We have a question from Vice Chair
[50:16]
Raleigh. Thanks. Um yeah, I was trying
[50:18]
to remember kind of the list of things
[50:21]
that this would include because it's out
[50:22]
my understanding is it's outside of
[50:24]
instruction time generally. So prek
[50:26]
because it's not K12. I know that's
[50:28]
about $2 million in our alcohol tax
[50:30]
funding. So these aren't all even all
[50:31]
property taxes. It's other things. But
[50:33]
my question is on school resource
[50:35]
officers because I know that is
[50:36]
something that periodically becomes a
[50:38]
fight. But I know that that is another
[50:40]
contribution. I'm wondering about how
[50:41]
much that is and is this within the
[50:43]
known issue or is it in this kind of
[50:45]
unknown limitations area? So the SRO's
[50:49]
are definitely kind of in an unknown
[50:51]
situation. I mean we've always taken the
[50:53]
view that they're doing police work in
[50:54]
our schools. They're not doing any sort
[50:57]
of instructional work there. That's do
[50:58]
they're actually doing police services.
[51:00]
Um if at least you know some sort of
[51:03]
community service there, not related to
[51:05]
the to the school. I think I want to say
[51:08]
probably maybe four or $4.5 million
[51:10]
cost. I don't know. I mean the city pays
[51:12]
that bill. So you guys just provide the resources officers to us when
[51:16]
they're staffed.
[51:17]
Um but it would be if the state were to
[51:20]
consider that as part of a local
[51:21]
contribution then it becomes a pretty
[51:24]
big another big hit to us. No followup
[51:26]
for member Broly. Yeah. So just just
[51:28]
play this out. I know this is um it's
[51:30]
going through this process. If if it
[51:33]
comes to pass that they do this kind of
[51:35]
how how does this impact the budget? I
[51:37]
mean it in in my mind it essentially
[51:39]
means we're choosing SRO's or some of
[51:41]
these teachers in general but kind of
[51:43]
what what would be as you said 15
[51:46]
million can you put some kind of scale
[51:48]
on that like number of positions or or
[51:50]
something like that? Sure. For $15
[51:53]
million that's
[51:57]
probably 120ish
[52:00]
FTE.
[52:02]
Um you know it's a few more kids in
[52:04]
every classroom. It's but really and
[52:07]
that's just kind of what we do know
[52:08]
about. There's a whole host of unknowns
[52:10]
and I kind of want to get into the
[52:11]
actual language that that um that would
[52:15]
trigger these unknowns and then the
[52:16]
stuff we do know. Like the first part up
[52:19]
here at the top, this is the language
[52:20]
that they're proposing. Um adding a new
[52:23]
section to read the local contribution
[52:26]
limited to appropriations that are
[52:28]
consistent with 20 USC 7713.
[52:32]
um if you're not going to go read that,
[52:34]
it does include transportation and food
[52:35]
service as a cost that would be included
[52:38]
in there, which right now we have that
[52:39]
exclusion for
[52:41]
transportation. So that and probably
[52:43]
prek would be just by changing it and
[52:47]
making it more consistent with the
[52:48]
federal guidance for expenditures
[52:51]
um would would limit us for collecting
[52:54]
the transportation and prek outside the
[52:56]
cap. Uh and those are kind of the known
[52:59]
things based on that section. This
[53:00]
bottom section is where the real
[53:02]
unknowns get to. Uh they've removed the
[53:05]
definition of appropriations to mean
[53:08]
money appropriated to a district's
[53:09]
operating fund by the city or bureau. So
[53:12]
what essentially what happens is in
[53:14]
state this is the the administrative
[53:16]
code in state statute they have that it
[53:19]
ties back to this. It ultimately goes
[53:22]
back to a to reference a city or burough
[53:25]
school district instead of a city or
[53:27]
burrow providing the funds. So that
[53:28]
school district probably makes it where
[53:31]
any local contributions that districts
[53:34]
get, not just from the city or bureau,
[53:36]
would go into this overall cap that the
[53:39]
district can collect from local sources.
[53:41]
Um, we don't know exactly what would be
[53:44]
included in that list. We have a list of
[53:46]
some things that might be, but it
[53:47]
sounded like the state would make
[53:48]
one-off determinations for each district
[53:51]
individually. Um, so really we wouldn't
[53:54]
know until they would make a
[53:55]
determination. We wouldn't have known
[53:57]
until they made a
[53:59]
determination. That's really important.
[54:01]
We have no idea what the magnitude of
[54:03]
this would have been. And if this would
[54:05]
have passed on Monday, there would have
[54:06]
been nothing we could do about it.
[54:09]
Continue.
[54:11]
Right. So that's the first thing that's
[54:13]
more problematic is instead of defining
[54:14]
that local contribution just from what
[54:16]
comes to the city or burough um removing
[54:18]
that definition. The second piece would
[54:20]
be the value of inind services. And this
[54:23]
would be more where you're speaking to
[54:24]
the SRO's or something like that. But
[54:26]
it's before it was narrowly defined as
[54:28]
insurance, utilities, energy audits, and
[54:30]
maintenance. Um, this would open it up
[54:32]
to a whole host of other things that we
[54:35]
do for with the city and the city does
[54:38]
for us. Even sitting in this meeting is
[54:40]
this would be would this be considered
[54:41]
an inkind service? You guys coming here
[54:42]
and giving guidance and us meeting? We
[54:44]
don't know. That's that's a that becomes
[54:47]
an issue.
[54:49]
So some of the things that we receive
[54:50]
outside those MUN
[54:52]
appropriations, interest earnings,
[54:54]
school fundraisers, food sales, activity
[54:56]
fees, jury duty, PECARD rebates, any
[54:58]
other local donations, PTA donations,
[55:01]
any grants received for charter schools,
[55:03]
even school volunteers. Would that be
[55:05]
any sort of a service? We just don't
[55:07]
know. And this is what's really
[55:08]
concerning about the change in that
[55:10]
language and how vague it is. And
[55:12]
somebody thought it was a good idea to
[55:14]
push this through without the public
[55:16]
knowing what's going on.
[55:18]
Quick question from member Hullman. And
[55:21]
I was going to make the point I've
[55:22]
always advocated that perhaps the city
[55:24]
could provide pool time to us for swim
[55:26]
classes just because I think as a
[55:29]
community we all have an interest in our
[55:30]
kids learning how to swim. Uh we had to
[55:33]
cancel that about 10 years ago because
[55:35]
it was the most expensive elective that
[55:37]
we had. Um, but under this regulation,
[55:41]
if you did that, we'd lose state
[55:43]
funding. If you just provided a pool for
[55:46]
us to hold instruction in it, it really
[55:49]
hamstrings creativity or cooperation,
[55:52]
you know, or or a willingness as a board
[55:55]
and an assembly together to do something
[55:57]
for the public good.
[56:02]
And then for the ink kind district uh
[56:04]
donations, we made a a short list there
[56:06]
too of things we just think of off
[56:07]
offhand with, you know, street
[56:08]
maintenance leading to schools for snow
[56:10]
plowing, uh the bus passes you provide
[56:12]
our secondary students, guest
[56:14]
instructors, if there's a health
[56:16]
department employee that came and talked
[56:17]
to a health class, would that be an
[56:19]
inkind contribution that would lower the
[56:20]
amount of cash the city could give us
[56:22]
through their appropriations?
[56:24]
um coordination with emergency
[56:26]
operations and then use of municipal
[56:28]
facilities or equipment. You know, we
[56:30]
have stream right down the street that's
[56:32]
going to be able to use Naka Valley Park
[56:34]
in the Russian Jack Trail System. Um
[56:36]
does that count? I mean, there's there's
[56:38]
just so much unknown with the v how
[56:41]
vague they wrote this language. Member
[56:43]
of Baldwin.
[56:47]
So, my my mind immediately goes to you
[56:50]
know what's the intervention?
[56:52]
um what's what is the what is the
[56:55]
process by which we as a legislative
[56:58]
body engage
[57:01]
in appropriate and pointed push back.
[57:05]
And remember there's two issues here. We
[57:07]
have the technical issue of the impact
[57:09]
aid, but I need to know who was that
[57:12]
person that thought that this was okay
[57:15]
to push forward without anybody knowing.
[57:17]
So there's two problems we have to
[57:19]
solve.
[57:22]
Um, for Miss Baldwin Day's question,
[57:25]
there's a 30-day comment period that
[57:27]
will be to the state board. Um, and
[57:30]
hopefully DED will be answering our
[57:32]
questions as well. Um, so we're getting
[57:36]
together a list of questions that we can
[57:37]
ask deed of what these regulations mean.
[57:40]
This is just our interpretation of it
[57:42]
based on the vague language that we
[57:43]
have. Um, so letters of support or you
[57:47]
know against the the the changes from
[57:49]
the assembly whether it's as a group or
[57:51]
individuals I'm sure that would be
[57:53]
appreciated but that's I think our
[57:55]
mechanism at this point. Uh member
[57:57]
Martinez thank you. I just wanted to put
[58:00]
an additional layer on that uh
[58:04]
who made this decision who looked the
[58:07]
other
[58:08]
way. What we do know is it wasn't a
[58:11]
local decision. What we do know is that
[58:14]
in a in a place where we think all
[58:16]
politics is local and better decisions
[58:18]
are made at a hyper local level, where
[58:20]
the children are, where their district
[58:22]
is, where the communities are, that's
[58:25]
some anonymous to this point, faceless
[58:29]
from my vantage point,
[58:31]
bureaucratic entity, person far away
[58:35]
from our community making decisions.
[58:37]
That's what I hear here. And and I see
[58:39]
and I hear theft through formula.
[58:42]
And it's it's it's disconcerting at bare
[58:46]
minimum and that's very diplomatic. I
[58:48]
fully wholeheartedly support the stance
[58:51]
of this school district to get to the
[58:54]
bottom of these fundamental questions
[58:56]
cuz I really appreciate the point that
[58:59]
if you didn't catch it beforehand, we'd
[59:02]
be just ringing the too late bell at
[59:05]
this date. Thank you, Dr. Bryan.
[59:09]
Thank you, Member Martinez. Member
[59:10]
Lessons. Thank you. Just to ask for
[59:12]
clarification, do we know whether that
[59:14]
30-day comment period officially opened
[59:16]
yesterday as a result of the state
[59:19]
board's decision? I mean, when when is
[59:22]
our 30-day window open and closed? Do
[59:25]
you know that yet? I don't know that
[59:28]
it's opened yet. Um, but we're going to
[59:30]
look into that and we'll get back to you
[59:32]
to make sure you guys are on the same
[59:33]
page, too. Thank you. And then this is
[59:35]
just a a proposition. Um, would there be
[59:38]
interest in our bodies creating a joint
[59:42]
letter signed by any and all individuals
[59:47]
uh within that 30-day period? Great. Um,
[59:51]
I'd be happy to work
[59:53]
collaboratively perhaps as we've done in
[59:55]
previous joint resolutions
[59:58]
with two or three members from each body
[1:00:01]
if that's an appropriate
[1:00:04]
um way to move forward.
[1:00:11]
Um, we're going to go to Vice Chair
[1:00:13]
Raleigh. Yeah, thank you. Um just for
[1:00:16]
timing purposes I think um you know we
[1:00:18]
generally as we take an action as a body
[1:00:21]
through resolution um so unfortunately
[1:00:22]
we can't do the thing where we just pass
[1:00:24]
the letter around and everybody sign it
[1:00:26]
um but we do have an opportunity
[1:00:28]
especially given the timeliness of this
[1:00:30]
um if folks are interested your two
[1:00:32]
opportunities on our end uh other than a
[1:00:34]
special meeting are Tuesday's June 10th
[1:00:36]
meeting uh we can certainly lay
[1:00:38]
something like this on the table if
[1:00:39]
necessary as a resolution um the other
[1:00:41]
opportunity would be our June 24th
[1:00:43]
regular meeting uh which is still within
[1:00:45]
that window and gives some more time for
[1:00:47]
drafting. Um so I'm sorry I'm not going
[1:00:49]
to personally volunteer to help with
[1:00:50]
this but I know we it's in good hands
[1:00:52]
but that's your options.
[1:00:55]
We have member Silvers.
[1:00:59]
I'm just going to be a little bit less
[1:01:02]
diplomatic and um I'm going to say that
[1:01:04]
this is deliberate because public
[1:01:06]
schools are under fire by people who
[1:01:09]
want them to fail. So, it's not that
[1:01:12]
anybody thought this was a good idea.
[1:01:14]
This was deliberate and we need to name
[1:01:19]
that. Um, I'll just speaking for myself.
[1:01:23]
I'm happy to coordinate with, you know,
[1:01:25]
um, our treasurer, member lessons, uh,
[1:01:29]
vice president Bellamy, and then, uh,
[1:01:30]
the assembly leadership team to
[1:01:32]
potentially draft something, um, and
[1:01:35]
take it from there. Um but agreed uh
[1:01:38]
sending a joint message together has
[1:01:41]
value. Uh member Baldwin I am very happy
[1:01:44]
to help draft
[1:01:49]
member Donley. Thank you. Um and
[1:01:55]
Andy, my understanding is the specific
[1:01:58]
problem that the federal department of
[1:02:01]
education identified was that some
[1:02:04]
districts had taken transportation
[1:02:07]
funding and transmuted those into
[1:02:11]
general fund funding that when they had
[1:02:13]
leftover transportation money and it
[1:02:16]
seems like that was the only problem
[1:02:18]
they identified as creating the
[1:02:20]
disparity. So to fix that, you could
[1:02:24]
narrowly craft a regulation that just
[1:02:26]
prohibited districts from taking
[1:02:29]
transportation leftover transportation
[1:02:31]
funding and moving to their general
[1:02:33]
funds. And that would seem to solve the
[1:02:35]
federal concern without creating all
[1:02:38]
this other problem.
[1:02:41]
Yeah, that's that could potentially
[1:02:43]
solve it too. But then I mean if you run
[1:02:44]
into the issue of then accumulating big
[1:02:47]
balances of fund balance, it's not
[1:02:49]
really probably a good management
[1:02:51]
strategy for them for those districts to
[1:02:53]
have just this pool of money just keep
[1:02:55]
growing if they're not spending it all.
[1:02:57]
Um but going back to a reimburseable
[1:02:59]
system where the state would pay for the
[1:03:02]
cost of transportation 100% like they
[1:03:04]
used to um just the actual cost that
[1:03:08]
would have solved it as well. And that's
[1:03:10]
probably what I would advocate for.
[1:03:14]
have member Johnson. Yeah, thanks. I
[1:03:16]
just also want to volunteer with assist
[1:03:17]
with uh drafting a resolution.
[1:03:21]
So, hearing member Baldwin Day, uh
[1:03:23]
member Johnson, is there a third
[1:03:25]
assembly member who's interested? Member
[1:03:27]
Silver is great. And then from our side,
[1:03:30]
um school board, any objection to
[1:03:31]
myself, member lessons, and vice
[1:03:33]
president
[1:03:33]
Bellamy hearing and seeing none, I think
[1:03:36]
we have six. Great.
[1:03:40]
All right. So, I've boiled down my
[1:03:42]
frustrating week into 45 minutes for you
[1:03:44]
guys. And you have any other questions?
[1:03:47]
We can certainly address them.
[1:03:54]
Anything else on this item then before
[1:03:55]
we move on? This I think is what I'm
[1:03:57]
hearing. We're done with financial
[1:03:58]
planning after this. Is this correct?
[1:03:59]
Okay. Uh member lessons, I just could
[1:04:02]
you just very briefly highlight what the
[1:04:06]
next eight or 10 months looks like on
[1:04:08]
our end from our budget preparation
[1:04:10]
timeline.
[1:04:12]
Outrage first.
[1:04:16]
Once we're done with the outrage, um
[1:04:18]
hopefully on by the 19th, we should have
[1:04:21]
the actual amount of money known for
[1:04:23]
next year. Uh that's when the governor's
[1:04:25]
due date is for getting the vetos back.
[1:04:28]
uh potentially, you know, depending on
[1:04:30]
what happens, there is the potential for
[1:04:32]
the legislature to come back and
[1:04:34]
override at some point, but they'd have
[1:04:36]
to call themselves back into session,
[1:04:37]
which would be it's probably a difficult
[1:04:39]
task. Um otherwise, they could
[1:04:41]
potentially do it in January, but that
[1:04:44]
would be, you know, well after the fact,
[1:04:46]
well after we've had to start making
[1:04:47]
adjustments to our own budgets, um based
[1:04:50]
on any vetoed funding. Um, aside from
[1:04:53]
that, we'll probably start in August
[1:04:55]
again talking about what our actual
[1:04:57]
deficit's going to be and then going
[1:04:58]
through and um, I'd like to do more deep
[1:05:01]
dives into like different areas of our
[1:05:03]
budget. You know, we hear over and over
[1:05:04]
that concern that administration is too
[1:05:07]
high. I want to deep dive into some of
[1:05:08]
those departments. Um, the ones I run
[1:05:10]
have been cut massively over the last
[1:05:12]
decade. So, I don't think that that's
[1:05:15]
just to educate folks on what is
[1:05:17]
administration, how we spend our money,
[1:05:19]
uh to try to get some buy in from the
[1:05:20]
public as we go ask for additional uh
[1:05:23]
BSA money because, you know, as been
[1:05:25]
stated, they took care of about 40% of
[1:05:27]
the problem with
[1:05:28]
HP57. Um even less so on transportation,
[1:05:32]
but we we're going to have to get out
[1:05:34]
and do some more advocacy this year.
[1:05:37]
Have member Higgins. Yeah, I I
[1:05:39]
appreciate the comment about motivation.
[1:05:41]
Uh what the what the goal is a great
[1:05:43]
deal. Uh and I still refer to 10 years
[1:05:46]
ago when in Senator Dun Levy's office he
[1:05:48]
told me its goal was to cut the ankle
[1:05:50]
school district $10 million $100 million
[1:05:53]
and because he supports private schools
[1:05:55]
and home schools. Look at his motions in
[1:05:58]
regards to trying to get um your charter
[1:06:01]
schools under the state. He believes in
[1:06:02]
providing funds with religious or
[1:06:05]
private institutions. He supports that.
[1:06:08]
um and then allowing districts in
[1:06:10]
different locations that would be under
[1:06:11]
his control to be able to operate in
[1:06:13]
Anchorage. There's an awful lot out here
[1:06:16]
and this is just consistent with that of
[1:06:18]
switching away funds um uh from the
[1:06:21]
public school system into private or or
[1:06:24]
charter schools run like private schools
[1:06:26]
and that's where my concerns at. So, I
[1:06:29]
think motivation is the critical issue
[1:06:31]
and look at all the different things
[1:06:33]
that have been pushed out there by the
[1:06:35]
governor. Uh, and when you put them all
[1:06:37]
together and you see the listing, it's
[1:06:39]
consistent and this is consistent with
[1:06:41]
that. So, I'm u very happy with the
[1:06:44]
superintendent taking a strong position
[1:06:46]
on this and but I saw it throughout the
[1:06:48]
whole state uh in opposition to this and
[1:06:51]
I appreciate that as well. But uh I
[1:06:53]
don't think there's any question in
[1:06:55]
regards to motivation here. it is
[1:06:56]
undermining public sector education and
[1:07:00]
um exclusion. So you got your your
[1:07:03]
charter schools being run like private
[1:07:04]
schools if the state had control of it
[1:07:07]
and then being able to operate
[1:07:08]
throughout the whole state. Uh and so
[1:07:11]
it's it's it's just totally undermining
[1:07:14]
the public sector education system for
[1:07:16]
kids that um would be left behind if if
[1:07:20]
Governor Dunby had to do it. Now I'm
[1:07:22]
going to say this, anything done by a
[1:07:24]
commissioner or anyone else in the
[1:07:26]
state, we've seen how controlling the
[1:07:28]
state, the governor is is either done at
[1:07:30]
his direction or with his consent. Uh so
[1:07:33]
to we can look at the blame, we can
[1:07:36]
place it every place else and who in
[1:07:37]
that group did it, but it still falls
[1:07:40]
back to the governor. He's the one that
[1:07:42]
controls and directs people what they
[1:07:44]
do. And if he doesn't do it, is he doing
[1:07:46]
it by consent?
[1:07:48]
Thank you, Member Higgins. Member
[1:07:49]
Holland. Um, I just wanted to
[1:07:51]
reemphasize something that
[1:07:52]
Representative Holland made clear at uh
[1:07:55]
a HWA meeting last night. The $700 BSA
[1:07:59]
increase, which is historic, if it's
[1:08:02]
fully funded in the budget bill means
[1:08:04]
that we'll be funded next year at about
[1:08:06]
the same level we are this year. And and
[1:08:09]
the way this has all come about over the
[1:08:12]
past decade or more, it sounds like a
[1:08:14]
huge increase. and and it is to the BSA,
[1:08:18]
but it actually sustains us at about
[1:08:21]
where we are. So, if people see that we
[1:08:25]
got a $700 per student increase and are
[1:08:27]
waiting to see what great things we do
[1:08:28]
with it, it it will be that we do about
[1:08:31]
what we're doing this year and the class
[1:08:33]
sizes stay about the same as they are
[1:08:35]
this year, um it it brings it into line
[1:08:38]
with what the one-time funding from
[1:08:41]
various sources has been over the past
[1:08:44]
decade or so. So it it it creates a
[1:08:47]
public relations problem. Um and and we
[1:08:50]
get to escape a little bit of it next
[1:08:52]
year as we start to build our budget.
[1:08:54]
We're we're not going to be starting
[1:08:56]
from such a low number. Um which I think
[1:09:00]
is what happened in December when the
[1:09:02]
governor announced of course we'll fund
[1:09:03]
education. We're going to fund the BSA.
[1:09:05]
We always have. But the BSA was about
[1:09:08]
80% of our budget. Um this way it will
[1:09:11]
come closer to being 100% of our budget.
[1:09:15]
as we go forward in the next year. But I
[1:09:17]
do hope everyone will keep that in mind
[1:09:19]
as we plan for the fall. We're we're
[1:09:22]
maintaining with with this historic
[1:09:24]
increase, which doesn't make verbal
[1:09:27]
sense to anybody. Thank you, Member
[1:09:29]
Hollowman. We'll go to member Dunley.
[1:09:32]
The fact that this disparity problem was
[1:09:35]
caused by some districts having more
[1:09:37]
transportation funding than they needed
[1:09:40]
when this district is puts millions and
[1:09:43]
millions of more dollars into
[1:09:44]
transportation than the current formula
[1:09:47]
of the state provides us really seems to
[1:09:50]
indicate that formula is broken and it
[1:09:52]
hasn't been updated in over a decade.
[1:09:55]
And as an additional priority as a
[1:09:57]
community, we ought to be demanding that
[1:09:59]
there be a new uh analysis, a new study
[1:10:02]
of what the appropriate formula should
[1:10:04]
be in statute.
[1:10:09]
Thank you, Member Donley. We'll go to
[1:10:10]
Member Baldwin Day. Uh I think I I was
[1:10:13]
thinking along the same lines as member
[1:10:15]
Donley. There there needs to be a a
[1:10:17]
longterm a long view fix to the the
[1:10:20]
analysis that's done for the disparity
[1:10:22]
test. That's very very clear. and and
[1:10:24]
I'm not I'm not sure you know where the
[1:10:26]
confluence is of the legislative work
[1:10:28]
that would need to be done on our end
[1:10:30]
and versus yours uh to to move on that
[1:10:33]
issue and to make that happen but that
[1:10:35]
seems very very salient for next session
[1:10:40]
member lessons um two things one I
[1:10:43]
wanted to point out that again in that
[1:10:44]
joint resolution that both bodies passed
[1:10:46]
we did talk about transportation funding
[1:10:49]
and I don't remember the figure offhand
[1:10:51]
but it was in the hundreds of dollars uh
[1:10:53]
that we needed to uh bring it up to par
[1:10:56]
for um I'd want to say the 21st century,
[1:11:00]
but um we're we're well underway. Um and
[1:11:03]
then the second thing I just, you know,
[1:11:04]
to build off of what member Hollowman is
[1:11:06]
saying, I think it's very true that we
[1:11:09]
are going that a $700 BSA is um not so
[1:11:14]
different from a $680 one-time dose uh
[1:11:18]
that we've received for this current
[1:11:20]
fiscal year. The big difference I just
[1:11:23]
wanted to keep at the forefront of
[1:11:25]
everyone's mind is that uh we have spent
[1:11:28]
our fund balance down to this 5% level.
[1:11:33]
We could have it up to a max of about
[1:11:36]
10%. Um 8% is our board policy board
[1:11:40]
minimum but but we've we've gone for
[1:11:43]
broke, right? There is nothing left in
[1:11:46]
the reserves if there's an emergency.
[1:11:49]
And that also means that we cannot tap
[1:11:53]
that sort of hailmary cushion to help
[1:11:56]
balance our budget next year, right?
[1:11:58]
It's it's done. So this 7475 million
[1:12:02]
deficit um that is real, that is big.
[1:12:06]
And I think we talked about briefly in a
[1:12:08]
finance committee meeting, you could
[1:12:09]
close every single school, elementary
[1:12:12]
school in the district to save money and
[1:12:14]
still have a deficit left over.
[1:12:17]
So, we are not going to be closing every
[1:12:20]
single elementary school obviously, but
[1:12:22]
just the scale, the magnitude of that
[1:12:24]
deficit is u challenging at best to wrap
[1:12:28]
your mind around.
[1:12:31]
Thank you. And I think I can close out
[1:12:32]
our conversation just by um expressing
[1:12:35]
appreciation uh for our assembly um for
[1:12:38]
your support on this matter. Um and then
[1:12:40]
it sounds like we have a path forward on
[1:12:42]
partnership to ensure that um the Alaska
[1:12:45]
Department of Education Early
[1:12:46]
Development as well as the state board
[1:12:47]
of education pursues any potential
[1:12:49]
amendment to regulations regarding local
[1:12:51]
contributions, impact aid, and the
[1:12:53]
federal disparity test through a
[1:12:55]
competent legal and transparent process.
[1:12:57]
Um that is a bar that they have failed
[1:12:59]
to meet uh with in dramatic fashion thus
[1:13:02]
far. Member, sorry, Mr. Ratliff, I had
[1:13:05]
one quick followup with the amount of
[1:13:07]
bond debt reimbursement that we have uh
[1:13:09]
that's subject to the the state still
[1:13:12]
having reimburseed. It was a little over
[1:13:14]
14 million. About 14.2 is what the
[1:13:16]
maximum exposure would be if they were
[1:13:19]
to veto the entire line item.
[1:13:23]
All right, not seeing any other members
[1:13:25]
in the queue. We will go to now that
[1:13:28]
we've completed our item E um we will
[1:13:30]
skip over F and G and move on to H other
[1:13:33]
matters of mutual concern. Um under
[1:13:36]
number one we havemies of Anchorage Dr.
[1:13:37]
Bryant. Thank you Mr. President. So I'll
[1:13:40]
give the team a moment to pull up the
[1:13:46]
PowerPoint. So I'll go ahead and walk us
[1:13:48]
through a few slides. So I do know that
[1:13:50]
we have several new members here today.
[1:13:52]
First of all, welcome. This is uh quite
[1:13:54]
a time to be a public official in the
[1:13:56]
Anchorage community. Um but I do want to
[1:13:58]
remind everyone that the ASD board and I
[1:14:01]
are laser focused on three goals. One's
[1:14:03]
on reading, one's on math, and the third
[1:14:05]
goal is on college career and life
[1:14:07]
readiness. And here in ASD, we have a
[1:14:10]
goal to increase our graduation rates
[1:14:11]
from 80% to close to 90% over the next
[1:14:15]
several years. And this is one strategy
[1:14:18]
um that we want to move this work
[1:14:20]
forward. With that said, um this is
[1:14:22]
really a short update that I just wanted
[1:14:24]
to um just clarify some misinformation
[1:14:26]
and hopefully get this group excited um
[1:14:29]
that uh one this is going to help us
[1:14:31]
increase the number of kids that
[1:14:32]
graduate um from you know college or the
[1:14:36]
number of students that are in
[1:14:37]
incredible careers here in the Anchorage
[1:14:39]
community or beyond. Um that's what this
[1:14:42]
is about. And if there's one thing I
[1:14:44]
want you to remember aboutmies and how
[1:14:46]
it's going down right now is that uh
[1:14:48]
we're going to go slow to go far. I I
[1:14:50]
think that there was a lot of
[1:14:51]
consternation, a lot of thoughts um
[1:14:54]
about the the program, a lot of
[1:14:55]
questions and I think that those
[1:14:56]
questions were good and I want to spend
[1:14:58]
the next few years really trying to
[1:15:00]
understand what are the concerns and
[1:15:02]
what are ways that this program can
[1:15:03]
evolve to meet the needs of Anchorage
[1:15:05]
today. Next slide, please. So, let's
[1:15:09]
start off by looking at a video that uh
[1:15:11]
demonstrates all the success that we've
[1:15:12]
achieved this year despite our smaller
[1:15:14]
model.
[1:15:16]
[Music]
[1:15:22]
It's been over a year since we started
[1:15:24]
this journey together to launch themies
[1:15:27]
of Anchorage. We've convened, we've
[1:15:30]
listened, we've imagined something
[1:15:34]
better and built something
[1:15:37]
bold. It's been a year of big questions,
[1:15:40]
but even bigger possibilities.
[1:15:44]
This year, students across the Anchorage
[1:15:46]
School District engaged in nearly 1
[1:15:48]
million career connected learning touch
[1:15:50]
points through networking, mentoring,
[1:15:53]
and hiring events, industry showcases,
[1:15:55]
and
[1:15:59]
more. As part of Freshman Academy, each
[1:16:02]
ninth grader had the opportunity to tour
[1:16:04]
a university
[1:16:06]
campus and attend a career
[1:16:09]
expo to meet face tof face with more
[1:16:12]
than 100 Alaska businesses and
[1:16:16]
employers. All before the start of
[1:16:18]
sophomore
[1:16:22]
year. We're already seeing
[1:16:25]
progress with a 5% uptick in GPA among
[1:16:29]
9th graders.
[1:16:33]
[Music]
[1:16:36]
Next year, things really begin. Each
[1:16:39]
comprehensive high school in the
[1:16:40]
district will launch at least two career
[1:16:42]
pathways from hospitality to biomed
[1:16:45]
science, engineering to
[1:16:48]
education. We're excited to bring these
[1:16:51]
programs that are proven to increase
[1:16:52]
engagement and graduation rates to every
[1:16:55]
student in the
[1:16:57]
district.
[1:16:59]
Our students are discovering their
[1:17:02]
passions and seeing what's possible for
[1:17:04]
their
[1:17:05]
futures right here in Alaska. Themies of
[1:17:08]
Anchorage. It's been a year of momentum
[1:17:11]
and we're just getting started. We're
[1:17:14]
preparing students for college careers
[1:17:16]
and life. Investing in our students
[1:17:19]
today helps build the Alaska of
[1:17:21]
tomorrow.
[1:17:23]
[Music]
[1:17:30]
I think this sounds like a very exciting
[1:17:32]
[Music]
[1:17:37]
initiative. Encore.
[1:17:39]
Um, so let's go to the next
[1:17:42]
slide because here's the thing. This is
[1:17:43]
really exciting stuff, but I think
[1:17:44]
people have really over complicated what
[1:17:46]
the model is and what it isn't. So, let
[1:17:48]
me just be very clear about what themies
[1:17:49]
of Anchorage is. So, uh, in 9th grade,
[1:17:52]
it's ASD's vision that every single
[1:17:54]
freshman will be enrolling in a class
[1:17:56]
called college career exploration with
[1:17:58]
personal finance. Why? Because I think
[1:18:00]
all of us have been tuning into
[1:18:01]
legislative sessions for many, many
[1:18:03]
years. And we know that uh, personal
[1:18:04]
finance is a critical skill for students
[1:18:06]
in ASD. Every single ninth grader is
[1:18:08]
going to understand personal finance and
[1:18:10]
we're going to make sure that they
[1:18:12]
understand what are the great colleges
[1:18:13]
out there all across the country. What
[1:18:15]
are the options here at UAA? What's dual
[1:18:17]
credit? What's an internship? um what
[1:18:19]
are ways that I can engage in the
[1:18:21]
workforce? I think it's important to
[1:18:23]
remember that we serve primarily
[1:18:25]
students of poverty here in ASD. So, we
[1:18:28]
need to give them opportunities whether
[1:18:30]
it's to go directly into college or
[1:18:31]
whether it's to make sure that they have
[1:18:33]
the technical skills they need to get a
[1:18:35]
high demand high wage job here in
[1:18:37]
Anchorage right now today. But when you
[1:18:39]
look at this model, it's very simple. No
[1:18:41]
one's being asked to take anything that
[1:18:43]
they don't want to take. um aside from
[1:18:45]
learning fundamentals of personal
[1:18:46]
finance and some other common sense that
[1:18:48]
I think every ninth grader in the
[1:18:50]
district needs to know. Number two, um
[1:18:52]
in 10th to 12th grade, all we're asking
[1:18:54]
is for students to opt in, right? So
[1:18:56]
they have their schedule and we want to
[1:18:58]
make the pitch that um through this
[1:19:01]
course um through that nth grade course,
[1:19:03]
you gain the inspiration, right? You
[1:19:05]
start thinking about, huh, like how much
[1:19:08]
does a new car cost? What type of job do
[1:19:10]
I need to have to get that new car? and
[1:19:12]
they can use those skills and apply them
[1:19:14]
to ways that they can contribute to the
[1:19:16]
community, whether it's in healthcare,
[1:19:18]
whether it's in um community engagement,
[1:19:20]
whether it's in public service. You
[1:19:22]
know, I'm really excited about this, but
[1:19:23]
I want to be very clear that nobody is
[1:19:25]
being asked to take anything that they
[1:19:26]
don't want to. Um, what we're trying to
[1:19:28]
do is offer students as many choices as
[1:19:30]
possible because my vision is that every
[1:19:34]
single student in ASD is going to
[1:19:36]
graduate ready for colleges,
[1:19:37]
universities, apprenticeships,
[1:19:39]
enlistment into the military if that's
[1:19:41]
their dream, and beyond. This is not a
[1:19:43]
college versus career paradigm. I want
[1:19:46]
to let the new members of the assembly
[1:19:48]
know that I actually before becoming
[1:19:50]
superintendent spent nearly a decade
[1:19:52]
being a national expert on the topic of
[1:19:54]
college career readiness. I'm very
[1:19:56]
excited about this. I would not be
[1:19:58]
putting my name behind it if I didn't
[1:19:59]
truly believe that this is going to set
[1:20:02]
more students up to be successful in
[1:20:04]
colleges, careers, or whatever they want
[1:20:07]
to do. That's what the academy is about.
[1:20:09]
It's about taking those little steps
[1:20:12]
because again, we have so many students
[1:20:14]
who are in poverty and don't necessarily
[1:20:16]
have access to the information that they
[1:20:17]
need to be successful in college and
[1:20:20]
beyond. So, I'm really passionate about
[1:20:22]
this and again, we really pride
[1:20:24]
ourselves on the diversity of course
[1:20:25]
offerings that we have in ASD. We have
[1:20:27]
advanced placement classes. We have
[1:20:29]
incredible programs like the biomedical
[1:20:31]
science program. We have so many
[1:20:34]
opportunities that students may not even
[1:20:36]
know where they're going to take that
[1:20:38]
credential or that experience or that
[1:20:40]
inspiration. And that's okay. That's
[1:20:42]
called life readiness. You have options
[1:20:44]
and you're going to pursue the option
[1:20:46]
that's best for you. So, here's my north
[1:20:49]
star on this initiative. The data for
[1:20:52]
ASD, again, this is not some national
[1:20:53]
statistic. This is about ASD students um
[1:20:57]
who complete just two just two CT
[1:21:00]
classes in the same area, they graduate
[1:21:02]
at
[1:21:03]
98%. So, let me remind everyone that the
[1:21:06]
graduation rates for all students in ASD
[1:21:08]
is around 81%. If you really dig beneath
[1:21:11]
the surface of that statistic, if you're
[1:21:13]
a student of color in ASD, if you're a
[1:21:15]
student who's from a low-income
[1:21:16]
background, those graduation rates are
[1:21:18]
in the 70s. Depending on what specific
[1:21:20]
sub population we're looking at, those
[1:21:22]
graduation rates could be in the 50s.
[1:21:25]
So, the fact that 98% of ASD students
[1:21:28]
that completed a CTE class graduate on
[1:21:30]
time in four years, that's incredible.
[1:21:33]
And I looked at the statistic on that
[1:21:35]
98% and you know half of those students
[1:21:37]
are students uh who are low-income. So
[1:21:40]
it's incredible. Do you know that the
[1:21:42]
national rate for students who are
[1:21:44]
low-income graduating from college is um
[1:21:47]
in the single digits when you look at
[1:21:48]
community colleges and sometimes it's in
[1:21:51]
the low double digits when you look at
[1:21:52]
four-year universities. And again, I
[1:21:54]
happen to know this because I spent
[1:21:56]
nearly a decade becoming a national
[1:21:58]
expert in this topic um throughout the earlier part of my career. So, I'm
[1:22:02]
really excited to bring this to light.
[1:22:04]
So, the model is simple. People are
[1:22:06]
opting in to courses that are available
[1:22:08]
at their school, but here's where the
[1:22:09]
business community gets involved. So,
[1:22:11]
next slide,
[1:22:14]
please. We're going so slow to go so far
[1:22:18]
because we briefed everybody that there
[1:22:21]
is no money in ASD. In fact, there are
[1:22:24]
some people trying to pull some
[1:22:26]
maneuvers to rob us of even more money.
[1:22:28]
And despite every single headwind that's
[1:22:31]
been faced by us, we've added 23 new
[1:22:33]
pathways in ASD. Despite that, right, we
[1:22:36]
were able to do that in a way that is
[1:22:38]
essentially costneutral. And there may
[1:22:40]
have been grants that were involved to
[1:22:42]
make some of this programming move
[1:22:43]
forward, but um I think that when our
[1:22:47]
low-income students start graduating at
[1:22:49]
rates of 90% and above, that investment
[1:22:52]
is going to be worth it. So even today,
[1:22:55]
even despite the deficit, even despite
[1:22:57]
all the political maneuvers, we're going
[1:22:59]
to have 59 pathways in CTE in the
[1:23:01]
Anchorage School District next year. And
[1:23:02]
I'm really proud of that because that
[1:23:04]
was despite a lot of noise and a lot of
[1:23:06]
misinformation that I am laser focused
[1:23:08]
on correcting over the next 12 to 24
[1:23:10]
months because the stakes are too high
[1:23:12]
when we're looking at the graduation
[1:23:14]
rates of students. And I know for a fact
[1:23:16]
that if you're an ASD student that
[1:23:18]
completes these CTE classes that you're
[1:23:21]
going to graduate at 90%. Why would we
[1:23:23]
not be investing in opportunities that
[1:23:25]
really help our students succeed? Why am
[1:23:27]
I not hearing from legislators and our
[1:23:29]
commissioner and others about ways to
[1:23:31]
invest in CT programs so we can continue
[1:23:33]
to do programs like this? I'm so excited
[1:23:36]
that we were able to just pull this off
[1:23:38]
despite the $110 million deficit that
[1:23:40]
we've been facing all year and we're
[1:23:42]
going to keep on going. You can believe
[1:23:44]
that. Next slide, please.
[1:23:48]
So here are the fine details that
[1:23:51]
frequently get misunderstood. So uh
[1:23:54]
these are the ASDCTE pathways that we
[1:23:57]
plan to offer for the 2526 school year.
[1:24:00]
The very first thing I want to say as
[1:24:02]
you look at this slide um is the next
[1:24:04]
slide is about King because I want to
[1:24:06]
make another thing really clear to the
[1:24:08]
public, really clear to everybody in
[1:24:10]
this room. I love the King High School
[1:24:12]
program. I think it's one of the most
[1:24:14]
successful programs that ASD has
[1:24:16]
launched in its history. And the reason
[1:24:19]
why academy is formed is because we want
[1:24:21]
to take those best practices and put it
[1:24:23]
in front of the kid who may want to just
[1:24:25]
stay on the football team at East High
[1:24:28]
School and have the opportunity to stay
[1:24:30]
on the east side and take some classes
[1:24:32]
at their school instead of going to King
[1:24:34]
Techch. But you're also going to have
[1:24:35]
some students that want to take
[1:24:36]
advantages of the King Techch program
[1:24:38]
and they want to really have a a
[1:24:41]
citywide access point. No matter where
[1:24:43]
they live, they'll have an opportunity
[1:24:45]
to take really high impact programs no
[1:24:47]
matter where they live. Somies and King
[1:24:50]
High School go hand in hand. Let's go to
[1:24:52]
the next slide, please. These are the
[1:24:54]
King CTE programs of study um that were
[1:24:57]
offered to students. Again, AOA and uh
[1:25:00]
King go hand inand they complement each
[1:25:02]
other. We have thousands of graduates
[1:25:04]
every year in the Anchorage School
[1:25:06]
District. There's so much CTE and
[1:25:08]
college prep and dual credit and AP and
[1:25:10]
international balorate to go around. I'm
[1:25:12]
not worried about students having
[1:25:13]
choice. I want to give them direction so
[1:25:15]
they can get to the finish line at the
[1:25:17]
end of the day. So these are the King
[1:25:18]
Tech CTE programs. And again, this is
[1:25:21]
accessible to everybody in the
[1:25:23]
community. So, I really want to make
[1:25:24]
sure that you all can help me champion
[1:25:26]
this message to the public that all
[1:25:28]
we're saying is that wow, if you want to
[1:25:30]
take advantage of these programs that
[1:25:32]
aren't at my school, I can probably
[1:25:34]
arrange some transportation to get to
[1:25:35]
King Tech. But if I want to stay on the
[1:25:37]
East High School football team, I'm
[1:25:39]
going to stay at my school and choose my
[1:25:40]
pathway at my school. It's that simple.
[1:25:42]
So, what I'm going to be doing over the
[1:25:44]
next 12 to 24 months is hammering this
[1:25:46]
message through to every single person
[1:25:48]
because there is zero reason why every
[1:25:50]
single person in ASD shouldn't be behind
[1:25:52]
getting more kids exposed to dual
[1:25:54]
credit, CTE, and beyond. I am so excited
[1:25:57]
for this. Next slide,
[1:26:00]
please. And thank you, a sincere thank
[1:26:03]
you because we could not have pulled
[1:26:05]
this off without the support of the
[1:26:07]
mayor and the assembly. We can't afford
[1:26:10]
the Denina Center and you all comp that
[1:26:12]
for us so we could bring thousands of
[1:26:14]
students. Thank you. Can you clap for
[1:26:16]
that? Thousands of students got to
[1:26:19]
experience careers. And here's the cool
[1:26:22]
thing about the 9th grade career expo.
[1:26:25]
Um we uh galvanized hundreds of school
[1:26:28]
business partners across the city and
[1:26:31]
they stepped up. They volunteered their
[1:26:33]
time and a lot of you were there and a
[1:26:35]
lot of you you know encouraged people to
[1:26:36]
come. Um, member Wilson was instrumental
[1:26:39]
in making sure that IBW and a lot of
[1:26:42]
school business partners that she's on
[1:26:43]
the board of were present here. Hundreds
[1:26:45]
of expose are there. But here's the
[1:26:46]
coolest part is that the career expo is
[1:26:49]
geared towards students that um are in
[1:26:51]
nth grade, right? Sometimes when you go
[1:26:52]
to a job fair, career fair, it's geared
[1:26:54]
towards people who are going into the
[1:26:56]
workforce. But when I walked into the
[1:26:57]
Dina Center that was caught by the
[1:26:59]
assembly, I saw students that were in
[1:27:01]
front of the the green screen. You know
[1:27:03]
what I mean? Like where they're trying
[1:27:04]
to pretend they're the weather person. I think that's so neat. And I got to see
[1:27:08]
uh I'm thinking about Alaska Premier
[1:27:10]
Auctions. I I got to see some students
[1:27:12]
really learn what it means to be an
[1:27:14]
auctioneer for the first time. I mean, I
[1:27:16]
might have gotten um Jen Matoya and some
[1:27:18]
other people, some future employees. I I
[1:27:20]
think that's um a really cool thing. And
[1:27:22]
I'm sure that there are students that
[1:27:24]
were at that um career expo and saw the
[1:27:26]
talented physicians and really saw their
[1:27:29]
future in a medical school out of state
[1:27:31]
so they can maybe one day come back and
[1:27:33]
help contribute to the medical crisis in
[1:27:36]
Alaska so we can have more doctors in
[1:27:38]
our low-income and rural communities and
[1:27:40]
make a difference. All that inspiration
[1:27:42]
really starts for every single ninth
[1:27:44]
grader through the freshman academy
[1:27:46]
course that they'll take their nth grade
[1:27:47]
year. That's the career expo. That's
[1:27:49]
thanks to the city. I just really wanted
[1:27:51]
to express my sentiment, but I also
[1:27:54]
don't want to let people off the hook.
[1:27:55]
I'm not sure if we'll be able to do this
[1:27:57]
career expo again because I don't know
[1:27:59]
if the Denina Center being comp will
[1:28:01]
count towards this impact date or what
[1:28:03]
have you. So, I just want you to take a
[1:28:05]
moment to think about what it's like to
[1:28:06]
be a superintendent in these crazy times
[1:28:08]
because all I want to do is just talk
[1:28:11]
about these programs and get kids into
[1:28:13]
school. Um, but here I am having to look
[1:28:16]
at statutes, you know, 44, 62, 250 to,
[1:28:20]
you know, try to make a political point.
[1:28:21]
But this is the work and this is why
[1:28:23]
we're working so hard and this is what I
[1:28:25]
need you to help me get the message
[1:28:26]
across on this issue that we talked
[1:28:28]
about this morning because again, I
[1:28:30]
don't know if we can pull this off
[1:28:31]
because the state hasn't told me if the
[1:28:33]
city can even help me get the den center
[1:28:35]
for free. They might want to deduct our
[1:28:37]
funding instead. That's crazy to me. So,
[1:28:40]
next slide. Dr. Brian, can I interrupt?
[1:28:41]
Uh, sure. First to say agree. Second of
[1:28:43]
all, Vice Chair Broly has a question or
[1:28:45]
comment. Uh yeah, I also agree. And um I
[1:28:48]
wanted to note that our next uh joint
[1:28:50]
meeting is also Friday, September 26th.
[1:28:53]
And so what a great thing that we could
[1:28:55]
make uh potentially a school day where
[1:28:56]
we have our meeting in the morning and
[1:28:58]
then we all head over to the den center.
[1:29:00]
So I will I'm putting a note on my
[1:29:01]
calendar right now. Thanks. That's
[1:29:02]
really cool. This has been the longest
[1:29:03]
week for me and that really warms my
[1:29:06]
heart. All right, so I think we have one
[1:29:08]
more
[1:29:09]
slide. Oh, that's the last slide. What
[1:29:11]
questions can he answer? I think I saw
[1:29:13]
um member Higgins and then we'll go to
[1:29:15]
members first. Yeah, I was going to
[1:29:17]
mention to the superintendent, don't
[1:29:18]
mention donations uh here a little bit
[1:29:21]
with with everything going on with the
[1:29:23]
state. I'll just mention this. I I I
[1:29:25]
like the numbers. I'm I'm always big on
[1:29:27]
numbers. So statistics out here,
[1:29:29]
graduations and the like is something I
[1:29:31]
always like to hear. The biggest
[1:29:33]
challenge from my standpoint in
[1:29:35]
supporting this is really trying to
[1:29:37]
expand it to seven or eight classes
[1:29:39]
because there's so many optional
[1:29:40]
programs and then having enough teachers
[1:29:43]
to do it. When you lose a teacher, you
[1:29:45]
lose what they teach. You need to have
[1:29:46]
other supports out there. And when you
[1:29:49]
go from six to seven classes or six to
[1:29:51]
eight, that's a third more students
[1:29:54]
number of students taking classes. and
[1:29:57]
we we're losing teachers and we're not
[1:29:59]
getting them refilled and we're running
[1:30:01]
into that type of nightmare. So, I
[1:30:03]
support moving forward with this. I just
[1:30:05]
want to be out there. We're being hurt
[1:30:07]
by the state with funding when we can't
[1:30:10]
fill these teacher jobs when they're
[1:30:12]
losing them and they're not being
[1:30:13]
replaced trying to retain them. I know
[1:30:15]
we got a committee that's looked at the
[1:30:17]
retention issue because that impacts us
[1:30:20]
quite a bit when you have high turnover
[1:30:21]
in the first five years, but we really
[1:30:24]
um just laying that out. I ideally I
[1:30:28]
wish we could support the seven and
[1:30:30]
eight schedule, but you got to have more
[1:30:32]
teachers and we just can't seem to we're
[1:30:35]
going to have a nightmare with that with
[1:30:37]
our salaries behind and no defined
[1:30:39]
benefit, which the state continues to
[1:30:41]
oppose. the only state in the country
[1:30:43]
without defined benefit option for
[1:30:45]
teachers. Another detriment that's
[1:30:48]
coming directly from the state with
[1:30:50]
opposition that way and that's and that
[1:30:52]
would make a difference right there for
[1:30:53]
low cost.
[1:30:56]
Go to member Baldwin Day.
[1:30:59]
Yeah, thank you. Um I would I would just
[1:31:02]
love to get um this PowerPoint if
[1:31:05]
possible. Yeah, I' I'd love to be able
[1:31:07]
to dig into especially the slide of uh
[1:31:10]
what's going to be offered at which
[1:31:11]
schools. That'd be really fascinating to
[1:31:13]
take a closer look. Thank you. Thank
[1:31:15]
you. We'll go to member Silvers.
[1:31:19]
Um yeah, I have a question. You said
[1:31:20]
that um some of the career pathways have
[1:31:22]
been paid for by grants. Um and my
[1:31:25]
question is would those grants also be
[1:31:27]
under threat um by these new proposed
[1:31:30]
regulations? It's possible, but here's
[1:31:32]
the way that I think about it. Member
[1:31:34]
Silvers, we can't tell our students that
[1:31:36]
I I'm sorry. The the state is trying to
[1:31:38]
take $18 million from us. This is just
[1:31:40]
the wrong time to pursue our goals and
[1:31:41]
guard rails. I need to make sure that
[1:31:43]
our eye is focused on improving student
[1:31:45]
outcomes no matter what. And yet, there
[1:31:47]
are some funds that are being funded by
[1:31:49]
federal impact aid. We did receive a
[1:31:50]
grant from the federal government. And
[1:31:52]
you need to understand that I 24 hours a
[1:31:55]
day constantly under fear that some sort
[1:31:58]
of grant's going to be pulled or some
[1:31:59]
sort of maneuver is going to be pulled
[1:32:00]
or some sort of rug's going to be pulled
[1:32:02]
from under me. So, I wish that I could
[1:32:04]
tell you exactly what I'll do when
[1:32:05]
there's a crisis, but what I want to
[1:32:06]
communicate to you right now is I know
[1:32:08]
the crisis are coming and I'm the guy
[1:32:09]
you want to have in a crisis.
[1:32:12]
Uh, member Vice President Bellamy. Yes.
[1:32:15]
Thank you. Um, Dr. Bryant, thank you for
[1:32:18]
uh doing the overview for the
[1:32:21]
uhmies. Uh, we we really need to be
[1:32:24]
crystal clear in our in our uh messaging
[1:32:27]
what it is and what it's not. uh there
[1:32:30]
still are parents and community members
[1:32:32]
who see them
[1:32:36]
as I don't know some kind of tracking
[1:32:38]
system. It is not that it is a system to
[1:32:41]
create opportunities.
[1:32:43]
Uh it is not every kid won't want to
[1:32:47]
um it won't fit every single kid but
[1:32:51]
when we look at the statistics you've
[1:32:53]
got
[1:32:54]
like you know only 30% of our kids
[1:32:57]
really go on to college what happens to
[1:33:00]
the other
[1:33:01]
60%. We want them to be life and career
[1:33:04]
ready too life college and career ready
[1:33:06]
as well. And so we are, if we believe, I
[1:33:11]
think we do, every kid, every day, no
[1:33:14]
matter what it takes, we've got to
[1:33:17]
create these opportunities for all kids.
[1:33:20]
And I think um, you know, my own
[1:33:23]
personal story really started with a
[1:33:28]
program called DECA. I would never have
[1:33:30]
even thought about going to college. I
[1:33:32]
never would have I because I never would
[1:33:34]
have thought I had any kind of skill
[1:33:36]
except I learned how to do something and and I found I was good at it and it
[1:33:43]
paid for me to go to college. It helped
[1:33:45]
me to be where I am today. So anyway, I am 100% behind themies. I just think
[1:33:51]
we need to make sure that we are clear
[1:33:55]
and we are that you know it's not
[1:33:58]
graduation or themies. It's not college
[1:34:02]
or, you know, or or an apprenticeship.
[1:34:05]
It can be both or all of the above. And
[1:34:09]
then parents get to choose the path, the
[1:34:11]
ultimate path for their kids. But we've
[1:34:13]
got to look out for all kids. Thank you.
[1:34:16]
Vice President Bill Bellamy.
[1:34:18]
Um, flagging two things. First, uh, the
[1:34:21]
slideshow for the AOA presentation is
[1:34:24]
attached to our agenda today on board
[1:34:25]
docs. Um, and then following up on Vice
[1:34:29]
Chair Broly's comment, sounds like that
[1:34:31]
we have a potential um, collaborative
[1:34:33]
time that can occur after our next joint
[1:34:34]
meeting in the fall, a field trip of
[1:34:36]
sorts to staple on. Uh, we can
[1:34:38]
potentially take up a good chunk of your day if you'd like. So, we'll
[1:34:41]
examine how we can do that and get an
[1:34:43]
invite
[1:34:47]
out. With that said, if there's no other
[1:34:50]
comments regarding uh, H1M of Anchorage,
[1:34:53]
President Jacobs, I I had my hand up. I
[1:34:56]
wasn't sure if you caught that. My
[1:34:57]
apologies. Thank you, Member Wilson. The
[1:34:59]
floor is yours. Awesome. Um I just
[1:35:02]
wanted to kind of elaborate a little bit
[1:35:05]
on on what um member Bellamy was stating
[1:35:08]
in that the academyy's programs aren't
[1:35:13]
just for students that don't want to go
[1:35:16]
to college. Just like King Tech is not
[1:35:18]
just for students that don't want to go
[1:35:20]
to college. you you look at the
[1:35:22]
biomedical program at at Service High
[1:35:24]
School, most of those students are
[1:35:27]
tracking to go into a healthc care field
[1:35:29]
that would take a would need a
[1:35:31]
post-secary education. Um whether it be
[1:35:35]
a certificate, an AA, a BA or a
[1:35:38]
doctorates. Um you look at the programs
[1:35:41]
at King Tech and they do an amazing job
[1:35:45]
incorporating the Alaska Middle College
[1:35:47]
with the students at King Tech. So, some
[1:35:50]
of those students are taking the trades
[1:35:52]
program um that's available, but they're
[1:35:55]
also taking classes at UAA. So, there's
[1:35:58]
this great combination. There's there's
[1:36:00]
no the the intention is to is to provide
[1:36:04]
limitless opportunities for our students
[1:36:07]
but to provide the exposure is is
[1:36:10]
incredibly important because many of our
[1:36:12]
students are not exposed
[1:36:14]
to different programs whether whether it
[1:36:17]
be trades or college or whatever
[1:36:21]
programs be you know being an
[1:36:22]
aesthetician or whatever they choose. Um
[1:36:26]
but I I just I think there is I' I've
[1:36:28]
heard the same kind of confusion from
[1:36:30]
our our families from our community
[1:36:32]
members um that that it is that the
[1:36:37]
themies are focused on students who are
[1:36:39]
not choosing to go to college and that
[1:36:40]
is by no means the case that it's really
[1:36:43]
focused on expanding their opportunities
[1:36:45]
and expanding their exposure. Um, so I
[1:36:48]
just I I appreciate that that's being
[1:36:51]
said more and said more loudly and our
[1:36:54]
uh our business people have been our
[1:36:57]
business community has been wonderful
[1:36:59]
about um being involved in this process
[1:37:02]
which is amazing because those are more
[1:37:04]
opportunities for our kids and more
[1:37:05]
connections for our kids in our
[1:37:07]
community. So it's I I I do believe that
[1:37:11]
themies is just trying to bring a um a a
[1:37:17]
louder a a larger platform to some of
[1:37:20]
the programs that the the school
[1:37:22]
district has had for many years and h
[1:37:25]
the community didn't realize that that
[1:37:27]
is uh a program that exists and many of
[1:37:30]
our students maybe didn't know some of
[1:37:31]
the programs that exist. So, it it's
[1:37:34]
incredibly important that all of our
[1:37:36]
kids know what opportunities are out
[1:37:37]
there and the engagement with our
[1:37:39]
business community continue to grow. Um,
[1:37:41]
I did want to ask a quick question to
[1:37:44]
Dr. Bryant. Um or maybe a comment more
[1:37:46]
than a question. Uh because there there
[1:37:49]
is going to be a change in leadership at
[1:37:50]
King Tech. And so um maybe share about
[1:37:55]
that process. So the community
[1:37:56]
understands that there is um going to be
[1:37:59]
a change in leadership, but the as you
[1:38:03]
stated um earlier, your excitement about
[1:38:05]
the programs that exist at King Tech
[1:38:08]
will continue to exist. Um so if you
[1:38:10]
could elaborate a little bit on that,
[1:38:12]
that'd be great.
[1:38:13]
Yeah, thank you, Member Wilson. So,
[1:38:15]
we're in the advanced stages of
[1:38:16]
finalizing the the who will be selected
[1:38:19]
for King High School. I'm so excited
[1:38:20]
about it. What I can share about it
[1:38:22]
right now is I've been telling every
[1:38:24]
finalist that I've personally
[1:38:25]
interviewed myself, my priority is to
[1:38:28]
expand the number of kids who are in
[1:38:29]
King Tech. Um, it's not lost on me that
[1:38:32]
there are a lot of teachers out there
[1:38:33]
that may be, you know, reading things
[1:38:34]
online or on Twitter or maybe, you know,
[1:38:36]
phoning a friend, but I'm going to make
[1:38:38]
sure that they hear from me. I want to
[1:38:40]
invest in King. I want more students
[1:38:42]
enrolled in that school. I want a vision
[1:38:44]
for more full-time kids in King, too.
[1:38:46]
You know, I had heard a stat from, I
[1:38:47]
believe it was Andy Ratliff that if we
[1:38:50]
add uh more full-time students into
[1:38:52]
King, there's even a pathway for that
[1:38:54]
program to be even more cost
[1:38:56]
sustainable. So, I really want the
[1:38:57]
public to understand I have immense
[1:38:59]
urgency for financial reasons um you we
[1:39:02]
can generate some dollars for the
[1:39:04]
district, but also our board goals. So,
[1:39:06]
I don't have any specifics to share as
[1:39:07]
to who will be selected and why were
[1:39:09]
they selected quite yet, but I've made
[1:39:10]
it crystal clear they need to grow
[1:39:12]
enrollment at that school because this
[1:39:13]
is a board goal and I need more kids to
[1:39:15]
graduate from high school in four years.
[1:39:20]
Thank you, Member Wilson. We'll go to
[1:39:21]
Vice Chair Broly. Yeah, thank you. Um,
[1:39:24]
uh, very happy to see King continuing
[1:39:26]
and have appreciated I think it's in
[1:39:28]
December, uh, the hosting of kind of the
[1:39:31]
update and and and, uh, getting served
[1:39:33]
lunch by the students. So, thank you for
[1:39:34]
that. Um but also I noted um in the
[1:39:37]
programs that are on that list early
[1:39:39]
childhood education and child care um
[1:39:42]
things related to housing construction
[1:39:44]
and then of course a lot of other
[1:39:45]
workforce uh needs in our community. So
[1:39:47]
I think there's a direct straight line
[1:39:49]
with our assembly priorities as well and
[1:39:50]
the municipalities priorities and making
[1:39:52]
sure that we have folks who um can do
[1:39:54]
those jobs and I think they're they are
[1:39:56]
good jobs. So I hope that people pursue
[1:39:57]
those careers. And if I may, um, you
[1:40:00]
know, this is an initiative that can
[1:40:02]
directly benefit ASD2. It's not lost in
[1:40:05]
me that you can create CT pathways in
[1:40:07]
the field of education. I think we need
[1:40:09]
more amazing educators than ever before
[1:40:11]
in this day and age. And given that ASD
[1:40:14]
is one of the most diverse school
[1:40:16]
systems in the country, I think it would
[1:40:18]
be really great to accelerate the
[1:40:19]
pipeline of students that are ready to
[1:40:21]
give back and pay it forward. So, one of
[1:40:23]
my priorities will be to expand the
[1:40:25]
number of education pathways, too. We
[1:40:27]
need to grow our own people. Whether
[1:40:28]
they're the people building houses,
[1:40:30]
whether they're the people in the
[1:40:31]
hospitals, whether they're the teachers
[1:40:32]
in your child's classroom, uh I really
[1:40:34]
think that this could help our state a
[1:40:36]
lot.
[1:40:38]
Thank you. We'll go to member lessons.
[1:40:41]
Um I wanted to say a couple of things
[1:40:43]
that I've appreciated recently. One is
[1:40:46]
uh that the administration has shared
[1:40:48]
that it's going to really be working to
[1:40:50]
engage with families uh more deeply in
[1:40:53]
part of this going slow to go farther uh
[1:40:57]
path and that we can also anticipate a
[1:41:01]
revised master plan. There's been a lot
[1:41:03]
of changes since June of uh just last
[1:41:06]
year. Um and so that's something that is
[1:41:09]
sounds like is also in the pipeline. Um,
[1:41:12]
and I would just like to share, and I
[1:41:14]
mentioned this the other day at our
[1:41:15]
board meeting. Um, one of the wonderful
[1:41:17]
things that I had heard for some time is
[1:41:19]
that King has a summer program for
[1:41:21]
students who are entering 9th grade. My
[1:41:24]
own kiddo is there right now in the twoe
[1:41:27]
session and uh, there's a new two-eek
[1:41:29]
session coming next week and it's a
[1:41:31]
strength. Um, so it's just it's a great
[1:41:33]
deep dive into um some of the hands-on
[1:41:37]
opportunities and they get to earn a
[1:41:39]
half credit which is also fabulous. So
[1:41:41]
it's something that I hope
[1:41:43]
um can uh expand outward. Um, you know,
[1:41:48]
that said, I did want to just share um,
[1:41:52]
you know, I've had questions certainly
[1:41:55]
about themies for for at different
[1:41:57]
times. Um and I think that it has never
[1:42:00]
been about tracking but about the
[1:42:02]
question to which um I guess one
[1:42:05]
question is you know how how do themies
[1:42:08]
at the end of the day improve student
[1:42:11]
graduation rates by helping students not
[1:42:14]
fail courses if they can't read on grade
[1:42:17]
level and if they can't do math on grade
[1:42:18]
level. Um because to me that's one of
[1:42:21]
the biggest reasons that kids don't
[1:42:23]
graduate and I don't see that being
[1:42:25]
fixed. I see engagement uh you know
[1:42:28]
likely increasing but I don't see
[1:42:31]
themies yet fixing a core problem of
[1:42:33]
kids who are behind on grade level in
[1:42:37]
those core
[1:42:38]
skills member lessons if I may I think
[1:42:40]
that's a great question to be direct
[1:42:42]
themies are not designed to help every
[1:42:44]
child learn to read in high school
[1:42:46]
that's not what they're designed for but
[1:42:48]
we can design our high schools to
[1:42:49]
facilitate that change and I want
[1:42:51]
there's another misconception that I
[1:42:52]
want to be clear about because I was
[1:42:54]
attempting to gather community feed
[1:42:55]
feedback on changing the high school
[1:42:57]
schedule. The reason why I wanted to
[1:42:59]
change the high school schedule was so
[1:43:00]
that I can give students more classes in
[1:43:02]
their schedule so that if you're behind
[1:43:04]
in, let's say, English one, you can take
[1:43:06]
a remedial English course, it's maybe
[1:43:08]
focused on more of the fundamentals that
[1:43:10]
you might have missed in middle school.
[1:43:11]
The same thing is directly applicable to
[1:43:13]
math. This is a strategy that I saw
[1:43:15]
personally when I was a high school
[1:43:17]
teacher in a 612 school teaching math.
[1:43:20]
Um, and there are various ways that you
[1:43:21]
can structure with the seven period day
[1:43:23]
because right now I think what the
[1:43:24]
public needs to understand is if we want
[1:43:26]
to keep the sixth period day, we can
[1:43:28]
keep the sixth period day. But the
[1:43:30]
problem is that there are a lot of
[1:43:31]
students in other states that are taking
[1:43:33]
seven and eight classes. They're able to
[1:43:35]
take more advanced placement classes
[1:43:36]
than our students in Alaska. They're
[1:43:38]
able to take more dual credit. They have
[1:43:39]
more room in their schedule to take
[1:43:41]
internships. And my fundamental belief
[1:43:43]
as an educator that really understands
[1:43:44]
the nuts and bolts of master schedules
[1:43:46]
and all of that thing, I actually think
[1:43:48]
changing the schedule is the bigger
[1:43:49]
lever to helping students to read than
[1:43:51]
themies themselves. Because really what
[1:43:53]
I'm trying to do is add more
[1:43:55]
opportunities for students to have
[1:43:56]
access to more incredible educators to
[1:43:59]
get the remedial courses that they need.
[1:44:01]
Because here's the thing. If you only
[1:44:02]
have six classes and you failed, you
[1:44:05]
know, let's say, you know, English from
[1:44:06]
the year before, you only have so many
[1:44:09]
blocks in your schedule to where you can
[1:44:11]
even graduate on time within four years.
[1:44:13]
So, I've paused that schedule
[1:44:16]
conversation only because we can't
[1:44:18]
afford it. But the minute that we can
[1:44:19]
afford it, I want to talk about it
[1:44:21]
again. I know that there's division on
[1:44:23]
it and there's two sides to the issue,
[1:44:25]
but we didn't even have the chance to
[1:44:27]
have that debate because we were so
[1:44:29]
short on money that we needed to make a
[1:44:31]
decision based on money and not based on
[1:44:32]
kit. So, I want to come back to that
[1:44:34]
schedule conversation when we figure out
[1:44:36]
this money situation.
[1:44:39]
But member Silvers,
[1:44:42]
just a side note before I ask my
[1:44:44]
question. Um over 30 years ago, I took
[1:44:46]
early childhood education and carpentry
[1:44:49]
courses from it was called King Career
[1:44:50]
Center back then. Um and I actually used
[1:44:53]
those carpentry skills uh in my previous
[1:44:56]
career as an environmental scientist. Um
[1:44:58]
so it's just kind of a side note. My
[1:45:00]
question is uh what is the graduation
[1:45:04]
rate at King?
[1:45:09]
I will ask my technical experts. I think
[1:45:12]
the problem with King Tech is you have
[1:45:13]
students enrolled in a home school and
[1:45:14]
then also in King Tech part-time
[1:45:16]
full-time. So, we may not have that, but
[1:45:18]
I hope it's high. We don't have it. Can
[1:45:20]
I get that back to you, Member Silvers?
[1:45:21]
Thank you. Go to member McCormack. Thank
[1:45:25]
you. Yeah, I just want to echo the same
[1:45:27]
kind of concerns of that. The academy is
[1:45:30]
great. Uh I did King Career Center as
[1:45:32]
well uh when I went through ASD. Great
[1:45:35]
program. Loved it. Uh had a lot of
[1:45:37]
friends go through it. Uh but it seems
[1:45:39]
like we're fa the city is facing the
[1:45:41]
same problem that it seems like the
[1:45:42]
Anchorage School District is which we
[1:45:43]
keep trying to do nice and cool and
[1:45:45]
great things but we are failing the core
[1:45:48]
fundamental of our students can't read.
[1:45:51]
They can't pass standardized math tests.
[1:45:53]
Our proficiency rates have tanked over
[1:45:56]
the last 10 years, 15 years since I
[1:45:58]
graduated. The academy is great. It's
[1:46:00]
cool. But we are still trending down on
[1:46:05]
proficiency rates. I appreciate that
[1:46:07]
comment, Member McCormack, but I want to
[1:46:09]
make sure that the public understands
[1:46:11]
that if we keep on doing the same thing
[1:46:12]
over and over again, we're going to keep
[1:46:14]
on getting the same and same results.
[1:46:16]
And let me remind you that every year
[1:46:17]
that passes by is not a status quo
[1:46:19]
situation. It was just shared earlier
[1:46:20]
today that, you know, a $700 BSA is
[1:46:23]
essentially a funding cut from what it
[1:46:25]
was the year before. So the reality is
[1:46:27]
that every single year, school districts
[1:46:28]
are operating with less and less. And frankly, there is no way that
[1:46:32]
we can protect all of our programs if
[1:46:34]
this funding situation does not turn
[1:46:35]
around for FY27. ASD is looking at a $70
[1:46:39]
million deficit. So there's no way to
[1:46:41]
maintain every single program that every
[1:46:43]
single community member loves that we're
[1:46:44]
currently doing because we won't be able
[1:46:46]
to afford them. So the thing aboutmies
[1:46:48]
is not only is it linked to higher
[1:46:50]
increases in graduation rates but it's
[1:46:52]
actually one of the most coste effective
[1:46:53]
interventions that the district can do
[1:46:55]
because in the original model of themies
[1:46:57]
the goal was for every single student to
[1:46:59]
be participating in the program. That
[1:47:01]
meant the cost per student would have
[1:47:02]
you know for example a language
[1:47:04]
immersion program is probably a couple
[1:47:06]
extra thousand dollars per student.
[1:47:08]
themmies would have been less than $100
[1:47:10]
per student because the only cost would
[1:47:12]
have been teachers. Really, the only
[1:47:13]
cost to ASD was more teachers so we
[1:47:16]
could have more classes offered so kids
[1:47:18]
could have more opportunities to pass
[1:47:20]
their classes. That's what got lost in
[1:47:21]
the sauce and that's the part that I'm
[1:47:23]
going to keep on hammering home. We
[1:47:25]
really were on a path to transforming
[1:47:27]
our system. We had to pause because
[1:47:29]
there are some financial headwinds.
[1:47:31]
there were some questions and unlike
[1:47:33]
certain people when I sense that there
[1:47:35]
are a lot of questions and
[1:47:36]
misinformation I pause and I reach out
[1:47:38]
to people and say hey let's cool down
[1:47:40]
the temperature let's figure out what
[1:47:42]
are your concerns about the schedule
[1:47:44]
let's figure out what are your concerns
[1:47:45]
about what program might be eliminated
[1:47:47]
if we invest inmies but at the end of
[1:47:49]
the day I need to be very clear that ASD
[1:47:53]
students graduate at 96% when they take
[1:47:56]
two of these career and technical
[1:47:58]
education classes that's data that's
[1:48:00]
local to ASD. Half of those students are
[1:48:03]
low income. That's happening right now.
[1:48:05]
Here's the crazy thing. Themies are not
[1:48:07]
even fully built out. The only data that
[1:48:09]
I'm sharing with you are the graduation
[1:48:11]
rates based off of the classes that this
[1:48:14]
most recent year seniors took. Imagine
[1:48:16]
in 5 years when this program is fully
[1:48:19]
built out and we go from having 500
[1:48:21]
students graduate in CTE to close to
[1:48:23]
3,000 students graduating from high
[1:48:26]
school in four years. that will
[1:48:27]
literally transform our workforce
[1:48:30]
because we'll have more students that
[1:48:31]
have taken the courses, gotten the
[1:48:33]
credential, have entered the workforce,
[1:48:35]
and we'll just have so many
[1:48:36]
opportunities to staff our hospitals,
[1:48:37]
staff our schools, and to make our city
[1:48:39]
a better place. So, I'm sorry if I get
[1:48:40]
very passionate about this, but I have
[1:48:42]
to again remind everyone that I've been
[1:48:44]
in this field for a decade, and I know
[1:48:47]
that we're on the right track to move
[1:48:49]
things in the right direction if we make
[1:48:52]
smart, coste effective academic
[1:48:54]
interventions like themies.
[1:48:57]
We'll go to member Hollow.
[1:48:59]
Um, I do want to add when when we look
[1:49:02]
at proficiency, there's always a
[1:49:03]
tendency as adults to really try to
[1:49:07]
narrow in and focus on those basics and
[1:49:09]
drill remedial classes, more intensive
[1:49:13]
reading lessons and whatnot. Um, as an
[1:49:16]
educator, I've always said we're really
[1:49:18]
not going to progress that way unless we
[1:49:20]
can get kids into a mortgage and a truck
[1:49:22]
payment that's over their head. And then
[1:49:25]
you can threaten them with, you know,
[1:49:26]
the loss of overtime and make them work
[1:49:28]
like we do when when we're in that
[1:49:31]
situation. Um, the truth is we have to
[1:49:34]
make school more interesting. We we have
[1:49:36]
to make kids want to be there. a a kid
[1:49:39]
that realizes they can do something they
[1:49:41]
want to do if they can read, they're
[1:49:43]
going to learn to read. But a but a kid
[1:49:45]
that really doesn't feel it because
[1:49:48]
while everybody wants to read, not
[1:49:50]
everybody wants to do the work it takes
[1:49:52]
to read. But if they begin to realize
[1:49:55]
that this is this is what what I've got
[1:49:58]
to do to do the thing I want to do,
[1:50:00]
that's when we really start to see kids
[1:50:03]
take off. Um, so unfortunately I think
[1:50:06]
when we narrow it, we're we're doing the
[1:50:08]
adult thing of of where you got chores,
[1:50:12]
you try to push everything else aside
[1:50:13]
and just focus on that and grind through
[1:50:15]
it, but they're not adults and they
[1:50:18]
don't have that internal motivation. Um,
[1:50:21]
they don't see the future. It's it's a
[1:50:24]
abstraction to them. Um, and and that's
[1:50:28]
why for a core group of students, you
[1:50:31]
can just do basic classes. They're going
[1:50:32]
to show up. They're going to study,
[1:50:33]
they're going to learn, they're going to
[1:50:34]
go off and do great things. But for the
[1:50:37]
kids that aren't like that, you have to
[1:50:39]
do something that's more timeconuming
[1:50:42]
and frustrating and difficult to get
[1:50:44]
them hooked and get them engaged and
[1:50:46]
then they'll start rolling. The I had a
[1:50:50]
bright kid and was a four or five year
[1:50:53]
old. I was trying to teach him math and
[1:50:56]
it really wasn't going very well. We
[1:50:58]
started playing
[1:50:59]
Monopoly. We never talked about math
[1:51:02]
again.
[1:51:03]
He knew I landed on his property. He
[1:51:05]
knew exactly how much money I owed him.
[1:51:07]
And and that's kind of the thing is like
[1:51:09]
we we're giving up the time to play
[1:51:12]
Monopoly in school in order to drill and drill just is a painful slog when
[1:51:20]
you're trying to push spaghetti up a
[1:51:22]
hill. So I uh the the answer
[1:51:25]
unfortunately is more electives, more
[1:51:29]
interesting things.
[1:51:31]
Um, I see all the advantages the
[1:51:34]
superintendent talks about from themies,
[1:51:36]
but I don't want to shorten our periods.
[1:51:38]
I want longer days. I would like the
[1:51:41]
ability for students to be able to
[1:51:43]
choose and say, "Well, actually, I need
[1:51:44]
a seventh period, but we could still
[1:51:47]
transport them home. We need more time
[1:51:50]
with the students that aren't doing
[1:51:52]
well." And ideally, the students that
[1:51:55]
are doing well could be done and be off
[1:51:57]
doing the other things they do because
[1:51:58]
most of them are very busy with all
[1:52:00]
kinds of cool stuff. But we're nowhere
[1:52:03]
near the level of funding that would let
[1:52:05]
us do something like that that I think
[1:52:07]
would be a lot more creative, would let
[1:52:09]
us engage the right way with with the
[1:52:12]
students that need it in the way they
[1:52:13]
need it. We're we're far from that. our decisions unfortunately really
[1:52:19]
revolve around the institution staying
[1:52:21]
within a budget staying within a lot of
[1:52:23]
constraints. It's not what is really
[1:52:26]
student centered at all unfortunately
[1:52:29]
but you're you raised a valid point. Um
[1:52:33]
the other thing I do want to say is when
[1:52:35]
kids show up as not proficient on these
[1:52:37]
tests, it doesn't mean they can't read
[1:52:39]
at all. They're just not at the level
[1:52:42]
that the cut score on that test. Um, and the Alaska standards are pretty
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high. Um, it's not a standard every kid
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will ever meet, but it's good to have
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high standards. So, there's sort of that
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dichotomy. Um, I think it was like webon
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that had the slogan. We'll have high
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standards and every kid will meet them.
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And that's not really, you know, that's
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faulty logic on that part of it. There's
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so much more we could do. Um, and
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unfortunately, a lot of what the board's
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had to spend time on is what can we cut
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that does the least damage to the
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smallest number of kids. And it's not
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innovative. It's not it's not exciting,
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but we want to be there.
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Thank you, Member Holland. I just wanted
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to note we have seven minutes left in
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our schedule time today and two agenda
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items as well as member comments. And
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so, I'm certainly not trying to curtail
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conversation. We gave a ton of time,
[1:53:39]
rightfully so, to the budget um and
[1:53:41]
financials talk. Um but wanted to flag
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that. With that said, is there a motion
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to extend by 10 minutes? I understand
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both the assembly and the board have
[1:53:48]
extra meetings today, so I don't want to
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go much further. Move to extend 10
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minutes. Second. Made by member Higgins,
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seconded by member Silvers. Is there any
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opposition to extending our meeting
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until 12:10 p.m.?
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The question was, is there any
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opposition? Yeah. Yes.
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Uh so we'll vote then. Um I believe
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you'll have the votes to extend. Right.
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You do now. Yeah. So um Miss Sullivan,
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can we call a voice vote to extend until
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12?
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Member Lessons.
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Yes. Member Wilson. Yes.
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Member Donley. Yes. Member Higgins. Yes.
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Member Bellamy is gone. And President
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Jacobs. Yes.
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Vice Chall. Thank you. Uh Madam Clerk,
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will you call the role for the assembly
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or call for votes?
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Member McCormack.
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No. Member Martinez, no.
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Member Baldwin Day, yes. Member Johnson,
[1:55:12]
yes. Vice Chair Broly, yes. Member
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Silvers,
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yes. Member Rivera, yes. Member Girker,
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no.
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That
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fails. 5 to three.
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Can the clerk advise us what this means?
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We stop at 12
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through the chair. You'll have to give
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me a minute.
[1:55:43]
A brief ed while we check procedure.
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point of information.
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Mr. About three and a half minutes just
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ticked off the clock. Agreed.
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Point well taken. Huh.
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through the chair. The clerk said it did
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not pass.
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So, uh, we will adjourn at 12. With that
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said, I see member Girker in the queue.
[1:57:28]
Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to circle
[1:57:31]
back to something Dr. Bryant you'd said,
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but I just wanted to give you a chance
[1:57:34]
to maybe clarify. You said that this
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historic BSA increase was actually a
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cut. Can you Is that Is that correct?
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Did I hear that right?
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Yes. Uh I think functionally when
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inflation's 30% and the increase to the
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BSA is about you know less than 2% that
[1:57:51]
would be a cut. That that's that was the
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rough math. But Mr. Ratliff, would you
[1:57:54]
like to clarify the actual
[1:58:11]
calculations? Uh, yeah. So, effectively
[1:58:15]
going from a $680 BSA equivalent to a
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$700 BSA equivalent would provide about
[1:58:22]
$1.4 4 million maybe in new revenue. Our
[1:58:26]
inflation on a $630 million budget is
[1:58:29]
going to be 18 to 20 25 million. I mean,
[1:58:33]
so that's really where the cut is. If
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we're not getting enough new revenue to
[1:58:35]
make up for that inflationary cost
[1:58:37]
drivers of our salaries and benefits
[1:58:39]
going up than it's in other contracts,
[1:58:41]
utilities, then that's really where we
[1:58:43]
have to start making cuts. And that's
[1:58:44]
been happening year after year. And
[1:58:45]
that's why our structural deficit has
[1:58:47]
built up now to, you know, 110 $120
[1:58:50]
million.
[1:58:52]
Yeah, I guess I would just say that
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that's kind of an outrageous, you know,
[1:58:56]
situation that we're in. And especially
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when you're talking to people, we just,
[1:59:00]
you know, this this BSA increase is
[1:59:02]
expensive on every single man, woman,
[1:59:04]
and child in this state. And to hear
[1:59:06]
this body say, "Well, it's not going to
[1:59:08]
actually have any that much of a
[1:59:09]
functional difference for us. Don't
[1:59:11]
expect outcomes to improve. Don't expect
[1:59:13]
any of this to improve." That's frankly
[1:59:15]
outrageous and I find truly
[1:59:17]
unacceptable. Thank you.
[1:59:20]
Go to member hs. Thank you and I'll do
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it real quick. You made reference to
[1:59:24]
outcomes and of course that's important
[1:59:25]
and we heard it from the governor. We've
[1:59:27]
had the pasm study out there showing the
[1:59:30]
average class the classroom sizes in the
[1:59:32]
majority of state and was considered
[1:59:33]
adequate funding is 1 to 15 K through
[1:59:36]
three and 1 to 25 above that. Uh and
[1:59:39]
that's been accepted by court systems.
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We're over 30 in in the lower grades. Uh
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so we're twice the size and we've been
[1:59:45]
increasing it in the last 10 years. And
[1:59:47]
the governor's response is when the
[1:59:49]
academics improve then we'll give you
[1:59:51]
more money and allow to end up with
[1:59:53]
growing even larger classroom sizes.
[1:59:56]
When you look at the outcome for
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teachers and you look at where they
[1:59:59]
start in in kindergarten so many
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academically not I they're not prepared
[2:00:03]
for kindergarten over half of them and
[2:00:05]
our academic growth between uh those
[2:00:08]
first four years is puts us in a whole
[2:00:10]
different category when you do a
[2:00:12]
comparison. So I just want to make that
[2:00:14]
point that inadequate funding does not
[2:00:16]
address the academic issues that are out
[2:00:19]
there. And in regards to the seventh
[2:00:20]
eighth grade when that came up 20 years
[2:00:23]
ago or 10 years ago that was an issue
[2:00:25]
that was reviewed publicly and got to be
[2:00:27]
an issue of of six to seven schedule and
[2:00:30]
all the academics are positive. Member
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Higgins I'm going to have to interrupt
[2:00:33]
you to say that we were adjourned. It's
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12 pm. Thank you everyone.