[0:06] We do have a quorum present. Currently, Mr. Memms is missing from the courtroom. Next item on

[0:13] the agenda is to do the invocation, followed by the pledge to the U.S. flag. If Mr. Chapin

[0:21] would lead us in the invocation.

[0:26] If I may just come to you and, first of all, I want to thank you for that day yesterday

[0:30] and we could celebrate, Lord, just the sacrifices that you made for us. And we'll just forever

[0:35] would be grateful for that and Lord just pray that you'll be with the men and women fighting

[0:39] for this country and Lord just the ones that are leading this country Lord just have a hand

[0:44] in their hearts Lord that they'll make the right decisions and be safe be with the families

[0:48] here that support that and Lord just pray that you'll give us the ability today to

[0:53] make sound and good choices for the county that is in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen.

[0:57] Thank you.

[1:01] I'm glad I did.

[1:05] And to the Republic for which it stands,

[1:10] indivisible with liberty and justice.

[1:21] Anybody sign up for public comment?

[1:23] No, sir.

[1:23] Okay.

[1:25] All right.

[1:25] The next item on agenda then is the consent agenda.

[1:28] The consent agenda is considered to be self-explanatory.

[1:30] We'll be inactive with one motion.

[1:33] There will not be a separate discussion of these items.

[1:36] However, any consent agenda item may be removed for individual consideration,

[1:40] persuasion pursuant to request a commissioner's court member.

[1:45] First, we've got budget amendments number 32.

[1:48] I'll show commissioner ma'am to the president's courtroom

[1:51] for the record.

[1:54] Budget amendment number 32.

[1:57] We've got bills approved.

[2:00] Do we have any utilities crossing county roads?

[2:02] No, sir.

[2:03] No, sir.

[2:04] But just the doors are locked.

[2:06] All sides.

[2:07] Okay, I thought they got them on.

[2:09] Hold on.

[2:45] Okay, so nobody had utilities crossing kill any roads. No, sir. All right. We got the treasure port

[2:54] We'll come back to that. I said Lisa's fix nine market mark. So it is

[2:59] First,

[3:03] the Treasury report.

[3:04] It's always good to read the Treasury report leads with this through voting this correct.

[3:09] Yes, sir. Okay.

[3:11] The share of report, county clerk's report, tax assessor's report, district attorney's reports, auditor's report, district clerk's report, IT reports,

[3:21] reports, J.P. reports, constant reports, veterans reports, collections reports, emergency

[3:28] management reports, historical commission reports, and need to approve the Frankston

[3:34] Museum and the Frankston Library's annual contracts. We've got minutes and I guess I

[3:42] was out. Greg, did you see any? Has he had them?

[3:46] No, sir.

[3:46] Okay. Everybody else is in the that's kind of this their annual contracts for

[3:54] services and in the minutes for the regular meeting on January the 27th 2025

[3:59] and the regular meeting for February the 24th 2025. I'll

[4:12] entertain a motion to

[4:13] approve the consent agenda. So moved. Motion by Commissioner Memms. Do I have a

[4:17] Second? Second. Second by Commissioner Hill. All in favor say aye. All opposed?

[4:24] So ordered. Number

[4:29] five is considering taking action on the real appointment of Linda Bowser

[4:35] and Joe Tinsley to a two-year term. You want to enter some Cherokee County Engagement Services

[4:41] Board of Trustees and both of these are served and these are really important. I'll entertain

[4:47] a motion to approve Linda Bowser and Joe Tinsley to two-year terms on Anderson

[4:52] County Anderson Cherokee County Enrichment Services Board of Trustees to

[4:57] have a motion. So motion back to you. May I have a second? Second. Second back to Mr.

[5:03] Wellbanks on favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. So what? Number six. Do you need two copies of this?

[5:15] I just want to work with you.

[5:17] Yeah, just one should work on that, because it just goes to Mark.

[5:24] All these are signed?

[5:25] Yes.

[5:26] Okay.

[5:26] Thank you, sir.

[5:31] Sure.

[5:44] Number six is considering take action to approve Anderson County's participation in the Texas

[5:49] Association of County Cyber Security Training for Employees and Authorized Anderson County

[5:54] Justice Signed Enrollment Form.

[5:57] I just need to sign the enrollment form so we can send it back to Texas Association

[6:01] of Counties.

[6:02] Of course, everybody in the county that has access to our system, all of our employees

[6:08] in all will have to take the cybersecurity training.

[6:11] It has to be 100% by the deadline so that if not, you're not eligible for grants.

[6:18] So this, but this is our annual cybersecurity training for all the employees.

[6:23] I'll entertain a motion to approve participation and cybersecurity training and authorize me

[6:33] to sign the enrollment form.

[6:34] Do I have a motion?

[6:35] Do I have a motion by Commissioner Hill?

[6:37] Do I have a second?

[6:38] Second.

[6:38] Second by Commissioner Memms.

[6:39] All in favor say aye.

[6:41] Aye.

[6:42] All opposed?

[6:42] So ordered.

[6:44] Item number seven is here, an update on Response Master for voluntary fire performance.

[6:49] And I put this on here.

[6:50] This was something that the court approved back in 2022, and we paid an initial signup

[6:59] fee for emergency solutions, and of course it gives them opportunities for the volunteer

[7:10] fire departments to keep up with their – if they actually contract with emergency

[7:17] and they can keep up with their inventory for their departments and do some other things.

[7:23] But what happens is the dispatch is able to send out a text message or an email and it

[7:31] goes straight to the emergency responders phones to give them the location that they're

[7:36] responding to and it gives them specific information on what the call is about.

[7:42] In other words, is it somebody having a heart attack?

[7:44] Is it a fire?

[7:46] And so that way they're preparing when they get there

[7:49] to respond to whatever emergency it is.

[7:52] So that is up and running.

[7:54] We've been working on that for several months

[7:57] and Jay and Mike and Mike.

[8:01] I think we were looking at other issues,

[8:03] but we're on teams meeting with them

[8:07] and I emphasize that we've paid for this for a long time.

[8:10] It needs to be running.

[8:11] And so, Mike and I got with the toddler check.

[8:15] I asked him, it was not an IT, this was not an IT project,

[8:19] but it was more than sure if it'd been trying to get up

[8:21] and running for a long time.

[8:22] So now it's probably going to have to be tweaked a little bit,

[8:25] but it is working.

[8:27] I was at Fire Meetin' the other night

[8:29] and Elkhart actually got paged out

[8:33] and we were looking at it on his phone.

[8:36] We still maybe need some more data that's added,

[8:38] but dispatch will have to do that.

[8:40] but that's going to be what I was talking about having to tweak it a little bit.

[8:45] But it's working and I think all the departments now are in a loop.

[8:52] So do you think it could be some sort of technology strong with the IT side of it?

[8:58] That's what it was. That's what I'm saying.

[9:00] Because I reached out to them and the way that dispatches sit up where they cannot,

[9:04] they start entering those boxes in and it won't even let them go to the next box

[9:08] until they've completed that one to the next box

[9:11] till they've completed that one.

[9:12] And that's internet and then it's not going through

[9:15] or I think even over in KU

[9:16] they even have more problems

[9:18] with trying to intercept that information in there.

[9:21] So we'll talk to them and get in the share of the share.

[9:24] We're not really sure where, who's, you know,

[9:28] what why it's not because I've seen it

[9:30] where it really worked good.

[9:31] I was with Chief McCoy

[9:33] and it showed the time of call,

[9:36] the reason it all happened,

[9:37] whether it was a heart attack, whether it was all the way to the map to getting to the

[9:41] place to the fastest, fastest, then he would pull up the next one and it would do the same.

[9:46] It would start the process of starting skipping boxes and what in the Internet.

[9:50] So I asked him all this morning and nobody, I don't know where to start.

[9:54] Well, the main thing I wanted the court to know that it is working because the

[9:58] Sheriff's Department and, you know, I've been working with the S.O. and Tyler

[10:04] Tech and trying to make sure that it's working.

[10:08] Somebody need to emphasize with Tyler Tech that we've been paying for it, it needs to

[10:13] be working.

[10:13] Yeah, they've been told.

[10:15] The bottom line judge is, like you say, they need some tweaking here and there.

[10:21] We've got tickets in with them, Mindy's been trying to speak with them to get this resolved.

[10:27] It's a coding issue, it's an IT thing with Tyler Technology.

[10:31] Not with us.

[10:33] It's going to have to start here to go there like Mike did before, seeing if we get better

[10:38] results when two IT people are talking to each other, instead of a dispatcher talking

[10:42] to their IT department.

[10:44] So it seems to work out a whole lot better when both the IT departments are speaking

[10:47] to each other.

[10:48] Okay.

[10:49] Let me correct something.

[10:50] This was not an IT project.

[10:52] This was the sheriff's department and the court approved this, and I has Mike to step

[10:57] in and help.

[10:59] And that's what he did.

[11:00] And I know what transpired between him and Tyler Tech.

[11:03] He helped Tyler Tech get it worked out because they couldn't figure it out.

[11:07] And that's what I'm saying.

[11:09] I think if Mike were to be on the phone with him, maybe it'd be a better understanding

[11:13] of what has to take place with Tyler technology.

[11:15] And we were all on that conference.

[11:17] Yes, that was the conference that we had on the Zoom meeting.

[11:21] So ultimately it's an IT with Tyler Tech trying to get the coding right

[11:25] because that's the issue.

[11:26] The volunteer fire department at the KU, they actually went in and recreated a code under

[11:33] KU to be FD.

[11:34] We already had three different codes in place, and those are the codes we need, and they're

[11:40] going to have to go in and recode that or redo that, so all three of them is you're

[11:46] working together.

[11:47] Because if we have a call that comes in, and then they get a second call, and you

[11:52] got the one tied up. There has to be a couple of backups and they're not working.

[11:57] So it's all in the coding. There's a ticket for it. They're working on it. So KUGVFD

[12:05] is actually working off the one they created. Okay. Not the ones we already

[12:10] have in place. Well, that's okay. You could tell me it was working for them.

[12:14] Well, the one is. But if we have multiple calls up there and we're

[12:18] to push them out. The other three backups are not working yet, but it's a code issue.

[12:24] Well, I would say we'll ran him a quiet fire meeting, and that's when y'all paged them out.

[12:28] I think it was on 163, was where the call was, and he was showing me that some of the data

[12:36] wasn't showing up. And he was just telling me so we could work it out.

[12:39] It's just a matter of getting the things worked out.

[12:42] Yeah, I wasn't complaining about anything. I just tried to get the court to help

[12:46] like you're aware that it's work.

[12:48] It is some work working, yes.

[12:50] The guys who want it to work, I mean,

[12:52] I think they're paying $150 a month

[12:54] for them to be a part of it.

[12:55] It just needs to be tweaked, and it's going to have to come from

[12:58] the Tyler Tech people to do it.

[13:00] Simon Sturks working on it with Mindy now.

[13:03] But I just really believe that

[13:04] if Mike understands the IT stuff

[13:06] better than we do,

[13:08] if he would assist us in making that call

[13:10] to Simon Sturks and, hey, what is this

[13:12] code issue, and is it

[13:14] something that we can help you resolve. I believe that would cure the problem.

[13:21] I know what he did with Tyler Tech and he helped make sure it was a matter of

[13:27] communicating with somebody who knows what they're talking about. I'm not

[13:31] saying my dispatcher does it but she doesn't know how to input coding at all.

[13:37] So it's going to take somebody with better knowledge about you to do that.

[13:44] I just wanted the court to have an update that it was working, so we could fire a fighter

[13:50] if maybe talking to them, so I wanted them to know.

[13:53] Okay.

[13:54] All right.

[13:57] Item number eight is considered to take action on professional services for the AgriLife

[14:01] extension building.

[14:04] Commissioner Chapin?

[14:05] Yes, sir.

[14:07] I went to the city and I presented them with a set of plans on the AgriLife building

[14:12] for the meeting room that we were considering and they took all my plans

[14:19] off the engineered sides of it but they did reach out and said they'd like to set

[14:24] the drawings on it so I'm going to reach out to somebody here local and find

[14:28] somebody that can give us the drawing. I just wanted to let the court know so

[14:31] it'll all be come back through here it's nothing that they're just gonna

[14:35] finalize whether they'll accept a set of plans or drawings before we can

[14:39] sit down as a court and make the decision.

[14:41] So I just wanted to bring it to the case of tension.

[14:44] There's no action taken on that.

[14:45] So we'll need to, I mean, if you're

[14:48] going to start putting plans together,

[14:51] then we'll need to retain an architect.

[14:54] Yes, sir.

[14:55] And for that, we don't have to go out for bids

[14:57] or anything, be in professional services.

[14:59] I can reach out to the local.

[15:00] They said just a simple set of drawings. So I've already got the engineering side of it,

[15:04] you know, the engineering building itself that I presented to them. I'm going to present it

[15:08] to them the same way and let them go ahead and do the drawings. And do a next-tier drawing.

[15:12] I think there's concern more with what it's going to look like. I took pictures of our

[15:15] storage building over there and they said that it's perfect. They wanted some more

[15:18] lighting for its glass windows in it, so which can be highlights, you know, above.

[15:25] don't have to be at idle and they wanted the doors to be on the front of the

[15:30] building facing the road instead of coming out of the parking lot the way I laid it

[15:34] out so it was gonna be a ground level instead of an elevated side but we can

[15:39] still do that that's not a problem. So other members of the court can they see

[15:43] those drawings? Before we got ready to make a decision I have to be over the

[15:46] other drawings that I presented to the city. Yeah we can do it. I'll bring it

[15:51] I'm writing the whole package together, you know, and could all of them.

[15:55] Doesn't the court have to do an exemption if you don't offer bid for professional services?

[15:59] I don't know.

[16:00] I think you do.

[16:01] There's a process to do.

[16:04] At the court level to sort of date.

[16:08] Can I do something then that we can at least contact somebody?

[16:12] Because this has been put off for two weeks now.

[16:15] Or do I have to put it back on and redo it?

[16:19] I think we're going to have to take some kind of action, but I think there's like a resolution.

[16:25] I mean, the main thing if I get them to do the drawing, we've got to pay them.

[16:29] It'd be like when we do a contract

[16:35] with Allison Bass for professional services, you're going to have to have a contract with fees.

[16:46] And also, you know, it's got to be somebody that maybe we worked with before or had a contract

[16:53] with.

[16:53] If you're not going to go out for an RFP, if not, then you're going to probably have

[16:57] to do an RFP.

[16:59] Okay.

[16:59] So I'll just get that gathered up and come back and then pass that through with the

[17:03] resolution.

[17:04] You know what I said?

[17:05] To look at the local government code and make sure that, like we have in the past,

[17:09] make sure that we follow that.

[17:11] Okay.

[17:14] Okay,

[17:19] so you're suggesting we pass on that?

[17:21] You'll have to, yeah.

[17:22] Okay.

[17:22] I have to come back with a resolution to make sure that we can approve to get them paid,

[17:27] you know, for the experience to be pretty simple.

[17:29] No, I think the resolution is to not have to go out for bid.

[17:32] Just engage with them.

[17:33] Well, no, no, that was to – so you don't have to go out for a bid for professional

[17:37] services.

[17:38] The resolution wouldn't have – technically have that as a whole.

[17:40] We had to do that every time when we did professional services.

[17:43] I believe so.

[17:43] It's going to be over 50,000.

[17:45] I mean, do you think it'll be over 50,000?

[17:46] I don't know how much no no under 50 it's under 50 no it wouldn't be anything like that

[17:52] I wouldn't think it'd be much over a couple of thousand if it was there you just need to engineer you on plans crazy

[17:59] Thank you. You're gonna have to you're doing a building project

[18:02] You're gonna have to have whoever that is overseeing that project and they're going because if you've got a contractor either

[18:10] Then you're gonna have to hire a contractor. We're gonna have to go out for bids for that

[18:14] Yeah, we're not gonna do that or I don't suggest we do that. It's whatever you all decide. We got to go out for bits to build it

[18:20] If it's over 50,000 yes, I understand that but I mean if that be the case that we could ourselves

[18:26] We could order the building package and we could also hire a contractor that would

[18:32] Direct it and put it up, but as a total it would be over 50 would it not well if it's broke down from the big pack

[18:39] I mean the building package to the to the installer

[18:41] You know what I'm saying?

[18:42] That would be piecemealing it together and as the whole project would be over 50,000

[18:46] and that would be a case.

[18:47] Well, we could do that too.

[18:49] I just hate to see us pay a general contractor for a record and pay them another $15,000

[18:54] or $20,000 that I don't see that no one sitting in this bench could oversee and be willing

[19:00] to oversee.

[19:00] No, no.

[19:01] I'm not saying hire that person.

[19:02] I'm just saying as a total, the whole project cannot be over 50,000 if you're not

[19:06] going to go out for a bit.

[19:07] Okay.

[19:07] No matter if you pay four vendors or you pay one.

[19:11] I don't want to be honest with you.

[19:13] So the architect is going to have to do the drawings.

[19:17] They're going to have to make sure they're ADA compliant with the building.

[19:21] They're going to have to have bathrooms. They're going to have to have sprinkler systems.

[19:25] And Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation will have to,

[19:29] they'll have to make sure they notify them because they'll have to come and inspect the building.

[19:34] I got into that when they did the Johnson and Johnson building before.

[19:37] for Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation came.

[19:43] It was done under Jack Rogers.

[19:45] They remodeled the building, almost all of it,

[19:51] and then

[19:54] what happened is after two years from the date

[19:59] that they finished the building in 97,

[20:02] Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation showed up

[20:05] and went over and inspected.

[20:07] I didn't even know they were over there.

[20:09] And then I get a letter saying the toilet handles are on the wrong side.

[20:13] There's no handicap accessible signs.

[20:16] There's some problems with the door down the alleyway.

[20:20] So we had to go back, and fortunately the contractor that I contacted and told them

[20:25] was willing to come back and do it.

[20:27] But after two years, I couldn't even hold the contractor.

[20:29] I sent a letter to Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation of why they didn't come

[20:34] and do that in that two-year period before we could hold them accountable.

[20:37] So there's things that need to be done to make sure that we're going to be in clients that's going to have to be respected.

[20:43] And so if you don't have an architect to make sure those things are happening.

[20:46] Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing now. Just trying to get the architect to get my drawing.

[20:50] That can present to them that it be acceptable with all of the attachments of what they need.

[20:54] Then at that point, if we decide to go out for our fees on the building, we can.

[20:59] I mean, that's going to be another whole step of whoever installs a building.

[21:03] We'll have to build the construction.

[21:05] Yeah, we can build the construction.

[21:06] And that's at the, you know, whatever the court wants to do on that, but right now just

[21:11] the city would like to have a set of drawings.

[21:14] But construction manager would bid the project out and like the plumbing would be, he would

[21:22] bid it out to plumbers.

[21:24] He would take over that role so that the court doesn't have to be involved in that.

[21:30] He would, Barry and Clay I think was the one that was working on the Civic Center

[21:34] at one time.

[21:35] So, and they did the pre-bid, all that stuff for free, so I looked at all those different

[21:44] bidders that were bid for the construction manager and they were the cheapest.

[21:49] So if you do an RFP for the construction manager, you might get something like that where somebody

[21:55] is doing it very minimum on the bid process and then they oversee all the construction

[21:59] so you make sure everything's in order.

[22:02] so I mean we did several school projects like that so I'm just trying to

[22:09] share that information I understand it I understand it for me but if you don't get

[22:13] end up with I know some projects on some gymnasiums where they didn't do it

[22:20] quite right and then they had built a brand new gym and then they couldn't

[22:24] pull the bleachers out on the floor they ended up out on the game service so

[22:28] they never could use it for games and those kind of things happen and sometimes

[22:34] I know some of the counties where I've talked to judges were they had problems

[22:40] with either some of the construction where they never could occupy the

[22:45] building they go back and do a whole lot to it so I just want to make sure we

[22:48] do it right that's all right so what pass on my right I don't know how to

[22:56] considering take action on buildings, facilities, and staff placement, Commissioner

[22:59] Shackelton, Commissioner Memms? Yes sir. We've been looking, Commissioner Memms,

[23:03] on how to rearrange some of the rooms in here and trying to accommodate what to

[23:09] meet some of CASE's demands and looking at the emergency management end of it

[23:15] down there. There's a lot of room. There's a little over 3,000 foot. She's

[23:18] already attached to that part. I'd like to make a recommendation to the court

[23:22] If we consider moving IT to another office, allowing her to have that, she'd miss, like-foot

[23:30] treats out to us and would like to move back to the courthouse with your old office that

[23:36] was there.

[23:36] I understand that since that.

[23:38] Okay.

[23:39] You said IT.

[23:40] You said IT.

[23:42] What did I say IT?

[23:42] Yeah.

[23:43] You said move IT?

[23:44] I thought yeah.

[23:46] What did I say?

[23:47] Miss Light's Good.

[23:48] Move IT.

[23:54] Constable Precinct 2, she's willing to remove her office and use the old commissioners courtroom

[24:01] in the jail.

[24:02] At the courthouse?

[24:03] Yes, sir.

[24:04] At the original courthouse.

[24:05] She wants to go back to the original building.

[24:08] Hold on.

[24:09] I'm confused.

[24:11] Okay.

[24:13] So are we not, you're not talking about IT then?

[24:16] Not at all.

[24:16] So what do you explain to me? Let's take them one at a time because all of these are my offices that I oversee and I'm not

[24:23] Being a part of any of this. So go ahead

[24:28] Because like you stated before you have to get one or more

[24:33] Participants there's one no more nobody else and if you would got anybody else on the court

[24:39] We do that an open form. We have broken the form rule

[24:42] So, when Commissioner Chapman came to me, because we were both concerned about trying to accommodate

[24:49] Casey and fit all of our election needs in this courthouse, that had to be strictly stuck

[24:54] between us two.

[24:55] So, we could go with Trump.

[24:56] So, y'all were pointing yourself as a committee to evaluate all of my offices, to see how

[25:07] we could better...

[25:08] Go ahead.

[25:09] I was...

[25:09] You got one office.

[25:10] I'm willing to listen.

[25:11] not all of yours. I want you to go ahead and explain here what y'all are talking about.

[25:17] Well, we had concerns from constituents who was in the audience last court and previous

[25:23] court before that. Actually, there's a couple sitting over there. We also had some more people

[25:28] that are not here today who wanted to tour the building to go through. So, I mean, under my

[25:32] recommendation, I would like to ask the court if we could recess for a second and walk down

[25:38] to these offices and see what these offices hold, what we have space available.

[25:42] So the people can actually see, and even if we can call IT in, if IT can come in or somebody

[25:47] and actually follow us with a camera or something, so this could be all transparent and be on

[25:53] the live stream YouTube like we show.

[25:55] So for the audience, the people who are not here who are watching the YouTube, they

[25:58] don't get a chance to go back there and see the emergency command center or the other

[26:04] offices we're going in or the actual courtroom that's over there, that's vacant.

[26:09] And we realize that-

[26:10] Now you're talking about the commissioner's court courtroom?

[26:12] Yes.

[26:12] That's Judge Todd's courtroom.

[26:13] That's where he holds criminal court.

[26:15] That's court.

[26:15] All the time.

[26:16] Yes, sir.

[26:16] And Judge Drans used it.

[26:19] And the district courts have used it.

[26:20] And when we use, when the JPs use this court over here like they're doing this morning,

[26:24] they share it.

[26:25] It's a consolidated courtroom for all.

[26:27] For all four?

[26:27] Yes, sir.

[26:28] And that would be the same purpose for that courtroom over there.

[26:31] It'd be just like they were scheduled out using just like they do over here. Let's see the point. Yes, sir

[26:36] Let's see what y'all come up with. Hey

[26:39] Well, I don't know why I said I

[26:40] Tell me what's talking about moving to the old courthouse if that was possible to the old judge's office of what she said

[26:47] Yeah, I'm in life. Okay out of here

[26:50] She would like she requested to move over there, but since we've learned that they put the district clerk over there

[26:58] which I'm sure can move back to her office as far as that goes.

[27:01] I don't know.

[27:02] I know it had to accommodate her before.

[27:04] But Ms. Lightfield would like to be over there with Judge Todd Hughes

[27:07] at that facility out of here that left us an open office.

[27:11] We'd spend no money on anything

[27:13] and could move the emergency management girls in there.

[27:15] I'd like the case to have more room to be functioning

[27:18] and do her stuff, put all of her storage.

[27:20] Everything that we measured where she's occupied now

[27:23] would meet that size would meet the demand of that.

[27:26] So she could set up, probably hold her municipality election, you know, any kind of school stuff

[27:33] or whatever she had, before she had to move to the bigger side if she had to for the general

[27:37] election side.

[27:38] But that would leave her in-house, you know, next to her office without her having to

[27:42] commute back and forth, which is out of the alien way, but it would just have to

[27:47] be better for her.

[27:47] You go right into the meeting room behind her, she could leave those computers,

[27:56] those

[27:56] she can lock that center section.

[27:58] If she needs to do any training in the section behind,

[28:01] she has a whole meeting here to do that back there.

[28:03] I'll be more offices for staff and everything.

[28:05] And as you said, yourself, Judge,

[28:07] that is the safest part of this building,

[28:09] the safest building in Anderson County that we own.

[28:11] And I believe the value of those election machines

[28:15] and what we all value elections for in Anderson County,

[28:18] that is the safest place that we need to use.

[28:21] If that's a bunker,

[28:22] we need to use that bunker for the elections,

[28:25] for those election machines.

[28:26] They don't need to be stored in all these different closets and everywhere where, you know, anybody probably get a door or key and go in there and unlock the floors or find a way to tweak them.

[28:35] Again, that's a bunker. That's the safest place for them to be.

[28:39] There will be no cyber attacks in there and anything else.

[28:43] That's a plan that we're putting on the table.

[28:46] Okay, so let me address the county court.

[28:48] You're talking about the old county judge's office over in the courthouse, correct?

[28:53] That's what she requested. Yes.

[28:55] Okay, I showed y'all how crowded the district clerk's office was over there

[28:59] I still need to report the neck one of the next projects once I get the courtroom that the ceiling fell in I

[29:06] Have to get the juror chairs from TDC J

[29:09] They're putting those together right now, and they're probably gonna have them in the next few weeks. I just talked to them last week

[29:16] Theresa moved across the hall with two of her employees and her office because they are bumper

[29:25] It's all lumped together.

[29:26] They have no room in that district clerk's office.

[29:29] So that gave her an opportunity.

[29:31] And I'm not talking to just y'all too.

[29:33] No, I understand.

[29:34] OK.

[29:36] So we moved Theresa over into that because it was empty.

[29:41] I talked to the game wardens.

[29:42] They weren't using it.

[29:43] And I asked them if they would be willing to give it up.

[29:47] And they got another office.

[29:49] So, we made Theresa and two of her employees into both of those two offices, okay?

[29:58] So she's using that now.

[30:00] And that gave her some room in her office. And

[30:06] there's two JPs over here that use this

[30:10] courtroom. And they've got a secure hallway to get out of their office and onto the bench

[30:17] without having to walk through all the people that are in the audience, okay? Which makes

[30:22] it more secure for the judges.

[30:26] There's three JPs use this courtroom, correct?

[30:28] Yeah. Just Thomas is in there now because emergency management is in there testifying

[30:33] on three septic system license.

[30:38] We got septic systems running on top of the ground.

[30:41] So my emergency management staff is over there

[30:43] testifying on that.

[30:44] Yes, sir.

[30:45] And in cases over here setting up for the license,

[30:47] it's going to take place tomorrow, okay?

[30:49] Yes, sir.

[30:50] So Judge Thomas have a safe way to walk in

[30:54] when he come in or do he go through those front doors?

[30:57] I don't know which way he comes in,

[30:59] but he probably comes in, I would.

[31:01] I think he comes through the front door and just go in the court.

[31:04] Yeah, but he doesn't have an office that's on that hallway.

[31:06] Yes, sir.

[31:07] Okay, so let me go through this process after listening to what y'all had to say.

[31:12] Number one, I supervise IT emergency management elections because Casey works for the election board.

[31:24] Okay? She's hired and appointed by the election board, which is chaired by the county judge.

[31:33] It's the Republican chair, the Democratic chair, the county clerk, and the county tax assessor

[31:40] collector's election board. So she works under my direction. Okay? Building maintenance.

[31:45] I have building maintenance. I got the veterans office. I do criminal court. You see all

[31:50] these chairs. Last Wednesday I had 71 cases on the dock. I sat in this chair

[31:56] from 9 o'clock to 2 30. I got up and stood up two times. We've disposed of 45

[32:03] cases. There's a lot of work going on in this whole building. Okay. My emergency

[32:08] management coordinator. So let's let me explain some of the stuff that goes on.

[32:14] My emergency management coordinator is in there testifying today. We got some

[32:18] meetings this afternoon. She's got to be at a school board meeting and slow

[32:21] them tonight on their safety committee. They do the on-site sewage facility. If

[32:28] you look at your report today, it shows all the different drills and things that

[32:32] they've done for the nursing homes around here. Now, something that I need to

[32:38] make sure the court's aware of. All that equipment, all those radios that I

[32:42] showed you in those pictures, those ergonomic data, all the radios in the EOC,

[32:47] Those were all bought along with the generator and everything, and yeah, it's a bunker.

[32:53] That came from Bell County.

[32:56] Because Bell County is the same way.

[32:58] And what happens when you have a disaster and you've got people that are up here working during a disaster,

[33:04] you've got threats of tornadoes and all those kind of things,

[33:08] you need to be working in a facility where you can stay working that's going to stay up and running.

[33:14] So, election's just not going to be up here when we're having tornadoes and high winds.

[33:18] You are going to be out in the county dealing with all the trees that are down, just like

[33:22] you always do.

[33:24] So, me and emergency management staff are going to be up here dealing with a human element.

[33:29] The people that have lost their homes, the people that we're trying to assess so

[33:34] we can get FEMA reimbursement just like they did after that may storm last year where

[33:40] You had FEMA came over here and set up for two months over here across the mall.

[33:45] And we helped people $1.3 million for people through FEMA reimbursement and or SBA loans.

[33:55] So that emergency management was set up for a purpose.

[34:02] And that's their office.

[34:04] That's where they office every day.

[34:06] And the thing is, you can't have elections in the same room where all the machines and

[34:12] the ballots are stored.

[34:13] She's going to have to store ballots and all that stuff.

[34:16] So right now, and this is the thing, I've got the Veterans Office over there.

[34:22] Y'all pointed me to take over the veterans and oversee all that, so I'm doing it.

[34:26] We have two Veterans Service Officers, not one.

[34:31] and I got pads. She's worked on her certification, so we'd have a lady that

[34:35] works over there.

[34:38] The roof wasn't good. We put a new roof on that building, so

[34:41] they bought new chairs and desk and everything for them because some of the

[34:46] stuff was inferior that was in that office. So what you're talking about

[34:54] is you're talking about disrupting county services that I oversee on a

[35:00] regular basis. And 103B, what you're talking about doing is taking everything in 103B and

[35:06] shifting it down there. That's all you're talking about. You're talking about shuffling,

[35:11] lexing machines. Leave them in 103B. The only thing about the bank building was if you're

[35:17] the county judge and you're the commissioners, you're looking for improving services and

[35:22] delivering real services. The bank called me. They asked me if we'd be interested

[35:27] in the building. I did my due diligence which I should do before I bring it to the court

[35:33] just what kind of states are building it. That's reasonable. Try to work to get a price down

[35:39] because it was too high a flush to buy and we did that. All y'all had to tell me on

[35:45] the first meeting is we don't buy the building. That's all you had to tell me and it's

[35:51] But we just drugged it out three times, three different meetings, and all y'all had to do

[35:58] is tell me, what do you want to do?

[35:58] Well, I wish it'd be that easy, but you have your projections up and you're pushing it

[36:02] on us.

[36:02] So, a bit, we're trying to get you benefitted a bit.

[36:04] Now, hold on just a second.

[36:04] I can't expect that.

[36:05] So, you know that?

[36:05] And they looked at it every way we could.

[36:07] And they looked at it three times and decided that there's a court that it wasn't

[36:11] a thing for them.

[36:11] Okay.

[36:12] You said that I'm pushing it on you.

[36:13] Well, you can.

[36:14] Okay.

[36:14] Let me.

[36:15] Rashard, can you use me?

[36:16] I'm making you look bad.

[36:17] If you come to Sound Court and say that we don't respect and appreciate what Casey does,

[36:22] you said that.

[36:23] Look.

[36:24] That's correct.

[36:25] Okay, she comes to me and she asked me to be able to do certain things to make her job

[36:31] better.

[36:32] Okay, that's all this was about.

[36:36] 103B, the machines can stay there.

[36:39] She can stay in her office area and Tammy can stay in hers and emergency management

[36:45] And right now, I mean, they're on their game.

[36:51] You can't, elections can't be on their game

[36:53] and deal with 19,000 voters more than double

[36:57] any election that we've ever had

[36:59] and they got people out through their 30 minutes.

[37:03] They're on their game.

[37:04] Why go in and disrupt services?

[37:06] Because that's what this is going to do.

[37:08] It's going to disrupt operations

[37:10] that I oversee on a day-to-day basis.

[37:12] It's not going to affect y'all

[37:14] Because you're going to be at your road and bridge, and this is the same as it was years

[37:19] ago.

[37:20] And, you know, I was going to try not to say too much today, but I watch county government

[37:24] as a share step in JP, and it's when elected officials get upset at one another, then the

[37:30] employees and the taxpayers are the ones that suffer.

[37:33] And I'm just, I just asked y'all before, just let everything stay just exactly like

[37:39] it is, we're 100% operational, we're taking care of business, they've got to manage the

[37:46] flood plain down there, they've got records and file cabinets down there that they have

[37:50] to keep records on and state records and report to state emergency management. If anything

[37:57] happens in this county, we've got communication. The single most important thing that everybody's

[38:02] found out is when there's a disaster. If you don't have communication, you're going

[38:06] to be up the creek without a paddle. And they, they manage all the towers for the

[38:12] Sheriff's Department and Rodenbridge. They manage all the towers. We talked all

[38:17] the time. Christina called me during emergency. She said, look, during one of

[38:23] those last emergencies where we were down for a few days, I, we were on the

[38:27] phone Mr. Wynch here. He's here. We talked back and forth trying to make

[38:31] sure that we got power on because we got some of our equipment's overheated

[38:36] at the towers. They manage a whole lot of stuff from that office down there. We

[38:42] just put an ice machine in there so they could take their water instead of having

[38:46] to go to a store somewhere and ice down water. We just put the ice machine in

[38:52] there so they could respond to fire. We're fixing to be in fire season right

[38:55] now. Casey's in there in elections and soon as she gets through that she's

[38:59] got to start working on the constitutional election, okay? To get

[39:05] ready for November, this is going to be from one thing to the next. We start

[39:09] doing all this. It's going to totally disrupt our whole operation and the

[39:13] taxpayers are the ones that's going to pay for it. I don't agree. I think that

[39:17] you can still perform the emergency management from a room the size of

[39:20] your office. You can do that. We're talking about the the big side of the

[39:25] room that's never been put into play, but everybody from Casey, the main one,

[39:30] suffering on having a room to store stuff. You've got rooms that are

[39:34] temporarily stored. When do I get a job? Did y'all go talk to her? No, sir. I spoke

[39:38] with Casey just a while ago and she has more concerns and everything, but

[39:42] wait, wait, wait, both of y'all just give me one second. I'm gonna say one

[39:45] thing here. Judge, I understand you feel that there's elected officials

[39:51] born against elected officials. I'm gonna go ahead and ensure you're on my

[39:54] have that is not the case. It has nothing to do with it. I will never play chess with

[40:00] the employees of Anderson County. There are not chess pieces for me to move or play with

[40:04] on a board. What I am trying to do is effectively use this Anderson County courthouse and this

[40:08] NX. I understand that this was a birth of one of your babies you designed this building,

[40:13] but judge that is not the case today. I think over time we have progressed and there's

[40:18] better ways that we can use these facilities. I understand approaching this was going

[40:23] be a big issue, but I assume that I need to fill these shoes along with other

[40:28] members from the court because these are concerns, these are things that need to be

[40:31] addressed in Anderson County Judge. You did bring up a great thing about we did

[40:35] need to have another place for elections and we need to help our cases.

[40:38] That is true and that's what we're trying to do, but in the midst of helping

[40:42] our case, yes it could add a little disruption, disruption of your plans

[40:47] but not of the services. I think all the services will run small

[40:52] effectively. I think everybody with the transition along as the other elected

[40:56] officials and the appointed officials that includes in purchasing management

[41:00] and the election coordinator will run smoothly if everybody follow the process

[41:04] and give it a try. We have to give it a try.

[41:10] You're not listening to the elected

[41:12] official that oversees this stuff. We've got everything operational, everything

[41:16] is working fine. This was just an opportunity to enhance our ability to

[41:23] deliver services that's all okay everything I'm telling you that we can

[41:30] take care of anything that happens right now and we have the thing about it is

[41:34] everything's running smooth IT is running smooth emergency management is

[41:38] running smooth and elections are running smooth we don't need to do that you're

[41:43] gonna disrupt services that I have to oversee and that's gonna make me look

[41:47] bad and you're not listening to the elected official that has to deal

[41:51] with this on a day-to-day basis. You're going to leave and go back to your barns, and I'm

[41:55] going to deal with it. If I am upset, you're going to have some of the responsibility.

[42:01] Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. We're not just road and bridge commissioners anymore.

[42:04] Anderson County has grown past the size of having a road and bridge commissioner.

[42:08] There's a lot of extra stuff that we have to do that's on a business level. So you

[42:12] can get us off of dirt, rocks, using a piece of machinery. I can go operate

[42:17] Every machinery that my guys have out there to operate, but that's not what I want to do

[42:21] And there's no disrespect to any one of the drivers who have a class a CDL or have the proper training to operate those machineries

[42:27] I really sit up on this court and help the people make effective decisions that are better lead their future

[42:33] And I believe that's what we're trying to do here today

[42:35] So it's okay. Could we recess walk with the constituents down to those courtrooms?

[42:43] We don't have to video it, but still walk down and show people the emergency command center and let them see how much space is sitting there open.

[42:50] But when you say those rooms need to be closed off, she can't sit by her machine.

[42:54] Judge, there's four different rooms back there in that one big bunker as you state.

[42:58] There's four different rooms.

[42:59] So you keep going in the bunker.

[43:01] Well, that's your words.

[43:02] That's your term.

[43:03] I know, and you know what, as it was trying to show y'all

[43:06] that if something bad's happening here,

[43:08] we'll stay operational, even if the power's out.

[43:10] But the snack room thing, it's all buck or tube or something.

[43:13] I mean, it's got that sound.

[43:14] That was a safe room.

[43:15] And it was...

[43:16] In the employees case, we have a tornado.

[43:17] That was a safe room for employees to go in,

[43:20] because we had to put the air conditioner somewhere.

[43:22] So we put a concrete ceiling and walls around the break.

[43:25] So you could set the air conditioners on top.

[43:28] But it works as two-thumbless cases.

[43:30] I mean the whole start of that you know case you're not having room to do it

[43:34] that was a solution to put her there instead of spending the 350,000 which we

[43:38] did not spend and not spending money putting her in there when the merchant

[43:41] management hasn't ever had to you know I went through all this to us whether

[43:45] whenever the space shuttle fell out to any of the high since no storms floods

[43:49] we've never put that room to work and it's been there for over 20 years.

[43:53] I got the question Commissioner Mouth what did what did Miss Brown say when

[43:58] when you talk to her.

[43:59] See, this is what I would like to do.

[44:00] She's over there working at 103 this morning.

[44:02] I'd like to ask her to come in the court this morning

[44:04] and give her her input on it.

[44:07] I would.

[44:07] I would like to talk to Judge Lightfoot.

[44:09] I asked her about doing that a few times.

[44:12] And she said, Judge, I came to court once.

[44:14] I'm not going to be involved in this.

[44:17] She don't want to speak to politics.

[44:19] She don't want to speak to politics.

[44:20] She don't want to know what's happening right now.

[44:22] And I asked her, she came that first time.

[44:24] She gave you two pages of what she was asking,

[44:28] because the first person I asked to go look at that building over there was

[44:32] her because that's called inclusion and I learned that at the state level I worked

[44:37] for one of the best agencies at the state and they included the employees in

[44:42] the process I am I include my employees in the process of doing their jobs I

[44:48] don't go in there and say you got to do this you got to do how is this going

[44:51] to affect us what will this day that's the way I do it okay and I've got

[44:56] so many people right now, I wouldn't take anything for naught.

[45:00] Every one of them are going and going and getting their job done on a day-to-day basis.

[45:05] I call Kristine and them. They had a rollover down there at 294 and 287.

[45:10] We had the head on out here on 79. Late at night, they call me and say,

[45:15] Judge, it's all cleaned up. The spills taken care of. They contact Texas.

[45:20] It's diminished about what y'all think they have to do. And they got to have the facilities

[45:24] to work out of to do that. We'll see. Okay. But this is a time, Commissioner.

[45:30] That's that's not important right now. You use you you said it in court

[45:36] 40% of this building is

[45:38] Empty and that was not a true statement and the thing is now you got to justify it because I showed you with a PowerPoint

[45:46] Every place in this building is occupied

[45:50] And yes, what you want it don't want to do is crowd everybody up wherever

[45:54] You know, let's move everybody in over here from the courthouse and crowd it all up

[45:58] you don't want to do that. You've got to have space to expand later on. That's why this

[46:02] building was built like that. It's been expanded on since I left and all this space is occupied.

[46:10] And so it's occupied but it's not utilized to as full as it is. That's the problem because

[46:15] that room down there is not used to. I mean it's not. It's not have to been used. It is not

[46:21] and I can guarantee you I can do it any way you want it. We can put them in the office

[46:25] And they'll be just as operable as they are today in the big 3,100 square foot room that they're in but the whole time

[46:31] The complaint was is a case he has to shove herself here and there

[46:35] We could take the area where the gemstones are build more storage is down there for more for emergency management

[46:41] We put all the files all the stuff whatever they wanted me to ask you a question

[46:44] And all the stuff is in 103 B. That's right

[46:48] So why shuffle it down there and take them and displace them no when we got one on three

[46:53] But leave it in one of the three of us, though, the proposal that she gave us was if that was open, then we could host more events for different things.

[47:02] Like he was talking about when Truman then was having to come here to be able to utilize more of that open space stuff.

[47:08] So you've taken already a dish of courtroom and cut it off.

[47:11] And you're conserving that for the fact to have that big room down there.

[47:16] And I'm not sure because I did reach out to everybody to see who was going to come participate.

[47:20] And I'm not getting any positive response from that.

[47:23] This is all political.

[47:24] It is an opinion that you're contradicting yourself and you forced us on an issue to

[47:30] come with a solution.

[47:33] We came with a solution.

[47:34] You don't want to accept our solution.

[47:36] That's political.

[47:37] So this is nothing to do with politics.

[47:39] This is nothing political.

[47:40] You're making decisions that don't affect you on a day-to-day basis.

[47:44] They affect me on a day-to-day basis.

[47:47] This is called the Commissionist Court, Your Honor.

[47:48] I agree.

[47:49] I'm gonna call, I'm gonna say your honor one more time.

[47:51] This is called commissioners court, your honor.

[47:53] Yes sir.

[47:54] And this is a board that make recommendations

[47:56] for Anderson County.

[47:58] That is what we're effectively trying to do this morning, sir.

[48:00] Well, you can't even show up on time.

[48:03] Well, you can say that all you want.

[48:04] I'm here in the building, that's Childers on your behalf.

[48:07] But how much do I help you?

[48:09] How much do I help you?

[48:10] You show up for your clients and then you trade credit

[48:12] for stuff.

[48:13] After times, you forget a lot of stuff.

[48:15] And when I try to help you, sir,

[48:17] how much do I help you, sir?

[48:18] gentlemen out here. So can we just pass this for the moment being and let's get

[48:23] there and get them out of here and then we'll come back. That's where the kids come in at.

[48:29] The shout-outs. So I'm going to go through the wheelbanks just stepped out but if we can skip to...

[48:35] Let's go do the number 12. Yes. Yeah the subdivisions. There before us the

[48:43] commissioner wheelbanks just stepped out that maybe he'll come back in. If we

[48:47] go to number 12 we can get her took care of and then that'll get miss a lot of time. We'll go

[48:53] down to island number 12 consider take action on a final plate for Wolf trail subdivision on Anderson

[48:58] County Road 425 for Brenda Eliza. Good morning. Okay. This is going to be our final plate.

[49:08] That's it right there. And she's got me three copies. Yes. Yeah. Everything's good. We went out

[49:14] looked at it. She did a wonderful job putting everything together and I have no problem with

[49:20] it whatsoever.

[49:22] All right. I'll entertain a motion to approve the final plan for Wolf Trail subdivision

[49:26] on Anderson County Road 425 for Brenda Lies.

[49:30] So moved.

[49:31] Motion by Commissioner M. Do I have a second?

[49:33] Second.

[49:33] Second by Commissioner Chapin. All in favor say aye.

[49:36] Aye.

[49:37] All in favor? So ordered. We're going to do your subdivision, Mr. Wolf.

[49:42] That's it.

[49:42] Thank you.

[49:42] appreciate you. Thank you very much. And I'll get you signed off with the clerk. And does she need to do any business with y'all after this? Yes. Okay. All right.

[49:57] Item number four is considering take action to allow, let's see. Wrong one.

[50:04] 10, okay, all right, considered take action on a preliminary plat for Oak Rivers Estates

[50:11] on Anderson, came out with 309 for Nate Spillman.

[50:17] Judge commissioners on this, these guys, as far as in my eyes, they've done a great

[50:24] job on their plat.

[50:25] Obviously this is going to do wonders for Anderson County.

[50:30] we getting these guys pushed through letting them letting them continue on

[50:34] with their business, but

[50:40] this is a point right correct correct correct

[50:51] we're

[50:54] looking at it roughly 86 is that right I look briefly at the I was with

[51:03] the emergency management when I were reviewing it.

[51:06] And so I saw the size of the project.

[51:10] It looks pretty big.

[51:11] How many of you lost?

[51:13] Oh, let's see.

[51:14] We've got roughly.

[51:15] I'm going to address myself.

[51:16] So I'm Stephen Freeman.

[51:18] I'm the server record on the project.

[51:22] We've got Nathan Spillman here, who's the developer.

[51:25] William Spencer, who's the engineer of the record.

[51:28] I'll go ahead and give you some small ones as real.

[51:30] OK.

[51:31] Thank you.

[51:31] Yes, sir.

[51:32] Thank you.

[51:36] Thank you, sir.

[51:46] Right now, we're looking at 102 lots.

[51:49] Okay.

[51:50] But this is just phase one of this development.

[51:55] We're basically taking down phase one first, and then we'll take down phase two.

[52:00] So that's the reason why we're only showing phase one on the preliminary play,

[52:03] because that's all they have ownership of right now.

[52:08] But you know what?

[52:09] And real quick, just for complete transparency for the viewers and everybody, is there was

[52:16] an email that was sent out this morning about Berryville City Limits ETJ, just to have complete

[52:23] transparency on that.

[52:25] The way I'm looking at it, the way I've researched it is obviously City of Berryville's

[52:29] in Henderson County.

[52:31] Correct.

[52:31] Y'all's build is in Anderson County.

[52:33] That's correct.

[52:34] Now, an E.T.J. cannot jump county lines from Henderson County to Anderson County, so I feel

[52:41] like at this point it's not going to hinder anything that we're doing as far as the preliminary

[52:45] plan, and that's kind of what I want to let y'all know.

[52:48] As far as I'm concerned, y'all have done all your due diligence that Anderson County

[52:54] has required.

[52:55] We can work through the Berryville, the city of Berryville, E.T.J.

[52:59] I don't even think that's going to cause any type of issue or anything for Anderson County

[53:04] Because obviously very city of Berryville is in Henderson Henderson County and ETJ is not to jump

[53:11] Counties per se is now city of Palestine

[53:14] Obviously it falls into Anderson County because they're in Anderson County, but city of Berryville is in Henderson County

[53:21] So their ETJ as far as I'm concerned at this point for our endeavor that we're doing today

[53:27] shouldn't have any type of realm on what we're looking at. Yes sir that's our

[53:31] understanding. If the ETAJ gives you any kind of problem you can submit a letter to

[53:34] them for two weeks and ask to be dropped out and they have to. There's a Senate bill

[53:38] passed. That's a loss. You can get out of there. If they even come to you at that

[53:43] decision. And we have reached out to them and so we're waiting on a call

[53:46] back from them but we'll try to address it. Let me know what it says that they have to

[53:50] release you from the ETAJ. Yeah and I'm sure y'all have guys on staff that

[53:55] kind of know the letter or can research the letter that we're speaking of but

[54:00] yeah as long as y'all get that on file but as far as I'm concerned with Anderson

[54:03] County and Henderson County y'all are doing everything by the book that we're

[54:07] requesting and I appreciate all y'all's due diligence that y'all've done on our

[54:11] end. Yes sir we'll get on that letter.

[54:15] Is the septic system going to be like a

[54:25] Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. And water system?

[54:29] Frankston. Okay, all right. Yeah, because

[54:33] I talked to them back in 23 and they were trying to expand that water

[54:37] system out. Yeah, and there's a WillServe letter for Frankston rule

[54:40] in there. We already have an agreement or whatever went down.

[54:46] Okay. All right. I'll entertain a motion to

[54:48] approve the preliminary plat for the Old Rivers Estates

[54:52] on Anderson County Route 309 for Nate Spillman.

[54:57] Do I have a motion?

[54:58] Motion by Commissioner Wilbanks.

[54:59] Do I have a second?

[55:00] Second.

[55:01] Second by Commissioner Memms.

[55:02] All in favor say aye.

[55:04] Thank you, gentlemen.

[55:05] Thank you very much.

[55:06] If you have a problem with that letter,

[55:08] for the easy guess of this, contact our office.

[55:10] And my secretary gives you the contact.

[55:12] Well, they're going to continue to appreciate it.

[55:13] Yeah.

[55:14] First, I want to keep these.

[55:16] I know it's just a matter of how we file it.

[55:20] Thank you, buddy.

[55:21] Okay. Good luck with it. You'll be careful. Thank y'all for it. Thank you sir. Thank you for signing off on that preliminary.

[55:27] I think I'm asking more. No, we'll get it on the final. Okay. Alright. The final. Alright. Just one more each year before they left. Thank y'all. Thank y'all.

[55:38] Okay. Number 13, what is that one? Consider taking action on interlocal agreement with Freesome County to hold inmates at a rate of $50 per day

[55:50] with the Freestone County Sheriff's Office and they'll be responsible for

[55:55] transporting medical costs. Sheriff Flores. Thank you Judge.

[56:00] Freestone County find theirself in trouble over there. They've got a small

[56:04] jail and he is just busting at the at the brim and he contacted me and asked

[56:09] if we had room. We're at 172 down today down from in the 220s and 230s that we

[56:15] We ran for quite a while, and I talked to my captain.

[56:19] We could accommodate eight, and for him, eight makes a big difference.

[56:23] It would still leave us plenty of room here in case we had a sudden influx, but it would

[56:27] allow him some relief where he's not in constant violation.

[56:32] We're just trying to offset any expenses at $50 a day.

[56:36] We're not trying to make any money on a friend.

[56:38] They've done solid for us in the past, and I'd like to be able to help him

[56:42] out right now if we could.

[56:44] I know you had 171 Saturday when I was doing registration, so we're at 172 this

[56:49] back I think was 158 it was 179 so it's 171 we're flexing back and forth but

[56:55] we're staying in that general neighborhood right now just 172 this

[56:59] morning so my question is is have you kind of got a magic number that you're

[57:02] looking at if our count gets up to a certain amount you're gonna have to

[57:06] tell him come get some or something there's it's written in there that with

[57:09] four hours notice that if we need to remove them they'll come and get them

[57:13] okay and they'll just be over they'll have to self-report to the commission

[57:17] that they are over again okay what is the max number let's say let's say using

[57:21] the 171 number if could you take more than eight I might be able to but we

[57:29] have to worry about our classification program we have he's got nothing but

[57:33] max felons okay right now and I can take eight max felons because we have

[57:38] an empty cell that's a misdemeanor cell but I can designate it max for the

[57:43] temporary storage of these eight. Well I saw the eight so that's why I was yeah

[57:48] we're just juggling rooms over there and if we get in a bind he understands we'll

[57:54] have to you know renegotiate the issue. Okay I think it's a good idea. Thank

[58:01] you. So we did that back in when we built the gel that we started housing some

[58:05] for others to kind of recoup some of our policies that's a good benefit I did

[58:10] send the contract to Allison but it was late Thursday so we don't have a

[58:15] contract can we just say let's move forward with it you know a motion that

[58:19] the court approves or doesn't approve moving forward with the project and then

[58:24] we're gonna have to still approve a contract yes yes I sent a sample over

[58:28] there to Megan she shared it with the district attorney I'm sure we'll

[58:33] have an answer. It's very simple contract. It doesn't say much more than you mentioned

[58:36] earlier. They take all medical and all transportation expenses. We're managing and holding their

[58:42] inmates and if we need to remove them, it's for our notice and they'll come and get them.

[58:48] This is just a question for the court. So when the contract comes in, will we need

[58:53] to wait until next court or will we have a special court to approve that contract

[58:58] contractors or something in wording that we can move on.

[59:00] Okay, well let me see what the court thinks and the sheriff and Megan thinks, but if y'all

[59:05] wanted to authorize that once the DEA signs off that the contract is fine with Herter

[59:14] to authorize me to sign the contract, do you think we can do that?

[59:18] I would not pay him and be able to save him money, right?

[59:20] Right, but it's still a contract.

[59:21] I mean, I'm fine with that, but I think it would still just, I mean, it's still

[59:25] The only thing is it won't be before the court for y'all to look at it.

[59:28] I mean, I think it's best to come back for the court because it's a contract, but...

[59:32] But this is going to be a special court then because they came to this.

[59:35] Right. Yeah, I don't want to... Yeah, I don't want to let them share...

[59:37] He's ringing my phone off the wall this morning.

[59:38] Yes.

[59:39] He's in a bad place.

[59:40] Well, let's... Let's...

[59:41] Whatever we need to get to move over.

[59:43] We're staying in the morning. I really need to go ahead and do everything.

[59:45] I mean, when's it going to go through their commissioner's court?

[59:47] You guys, that's a second question.

[59:48] Yeah, has it been approved by the Freestone County Commissioner's Court?

[59:52] No, sir. It hasn't.

[59:53] Okay, so we got to do that today.

[59:55] We got to do that, too.

[59:56] We got time.

[59:56] Yeah, we got time.

[59:57] Yeah.

[59:58] We're going to have both of them sign off.

[59:59] Thank you all the best.

[1:00:00] Well, if we don't have them sign it, it's not an executed contract. So I don't want the

[1:00:07] liability of their inmates and you don't either. Not without paperwork.

[1:00:12] All right. How about if we consider and take action for the sheriff to move forward with

[1:00:21] trying to get the necessary documents in place to house inmates for Freestone County.

[1:00:32] I'm sure we'll hope here's something from the district attorney and then we'll move forward

[1:00:36] just let me know and I can get with I think some of the grants the county judge over so

[1:00:41] I believe that's right we'll have to see if she approves the contract that's when you're

[1:00:46] going to submit to them yes after everybody signs in everybody's if she gets that done

[1:00:51] for you and you've said that they're probably going to do it if you don't know ahead

[1:00:55] They've got them in multiple counties right now.

[1:00:57] There's no doubt she'll sign.

[1:00:59] As he can set up, you know, we can set the court.

[1:01:01] It's just like 72 hours or so.

[1:01:03] As soon as I contact them 72 hours later, right?

[1:01:07] Yeah, but if you think you're gonna contact

[1:01:09] and we'll get the ball rolling

[1:01:10] or if you wait to sign and bring it back,

[1:01:12] then it's still 72 hours.

[1:01:13] It's gonna be 72 hours for any special that we call.

[1:01:17] So once the county, the district attorney

[1:01:19] signs it or approves it for signing,

[1:01:22] then we'll make that call.

[1:01:23] Thank you for your time.

[1:01:27] I'll entertain a motion to

[1:01:29] approve, to authorize Sheriff

[1:01:32] Flores to move forward with

[1:01:33] negotiating a contract between

[1:01:35] Freestone County Sheriff's

[1:01:37] Office and getting a contract

[1:01:39] signed by Freestone County

[1:01:40] Commissioner's Court to be

[1:01:42] presented to Anderson County

[1:01:43] Commissioner's Court to

[1:01:45] consider housing inmates in our county jail. They have a motion. Make a motion.

[1:01:51] Motion by Commissioner Wilbains to have a second. Second. Second by Commissioner

[1:01:54] Memms on favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed? So ordered. Out of number 11 is considered to take action to allow

[1:02:02] precinct four road and bridge to bid up to $70,000 for equipment at Renee Bates

[1:02:11] Yes, sir, I found a couple dump trucks, dual tandem dump trucks on Ray Bates that I would

[1:02:18] like to bid on.

[1:02:20] So I just wanted to bring it for the court, let the court know what I was thinking, what

[1:02:26] I was wanting to do.

[1:02:28] I'm entertaining motion.

[1:02:29] Wait, do you have enough money in your capital outlay?

[1:02:31] I'm looking right now.

[1:02:33] I will have to do a budget amendment, I'm sure.

[1:02:35] You gonna do it now?

[1:02:36] I can.

[1:02:37] Let me see how much you have what just approved 32 I guess right

[1:02:47] now my cap right

[1:02:48] last should have twenty five thousand four hundred

[1:02:52] any move already there 50 there

[1:02:58] yes

[1:03:01] 45 yeah that'll be good that'll be a

[1:03:06] budget number 33 okay

[1:03:11] I'm sorry Joe what was the total that need to be moved

[1:03:21] I'm

[1:03:24] going to take a motion to

[1:03:24] approve allowing Precinct 4

[1:03:27] Road and Bridge.

[1:03:29] Mr. Hill to bid up $70,000 for

[1:03:32] equipment for Renée Bates

[1:03:34] auction to approve budget

[1:03:36] amendment number 33 moving

[1:03:39] $45,000 from his road

[1:03:40] construction to his capital

[1:03:42] outlay.

[1:03:43] That will take care of it,

[1:03:45] Megan.

[1:03:45] one. Okay motion back to Mr. Wilbanks. Do I have a second? Second. Second back to Mr.

[1:03:49] Mann's. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Sword. Okay. Thank you for that. I forgot

[1:03:55] about that. Yeah, I'll do that. All right.

[1:04:02] Thank you. That's everything. Back to item

[1:04:04] number nine.

[1:04:10] Okay. That was my suggestion though was just to give her more room to

[1:04:15] be able to beat some of the man's which is and I understand what you're saying

[1:04:18] that it's working the idiot but it's working the way it is because she's

[1:04:22] utilizing spaces that were really designed for other things so that's why

[1:04:26] we looked at it you know that way and it's not against your deal anything else

[1:04:32] it always turns out that's where you say it is but it's not it was elected official

[1:04:37] and interacting with them on a day-to-day basis and I've talked to Casey I've

[1:04:42] talked to emergency management which we work together all the time in case

[1:04:47] he's over there and they've been working and I communicate with them most every

[1:04:54] day or every two or three days because sometimes I don't want to interfere with

[1:04:57] them because they got it's a distraction and they got to stay time on task getting

[1:05:01] those elections ready so I'm just telling you this is County government is

[1:05:07] operating right now in all these different departments at 100% it does

[1:05:14] all I wanted to do was if we had an opportunity for a building like this

[1:05:18] is this close is to take you know if we can enhance stuff I think we're all

[1:05:24] looking for that it's just like commercial wheelbanks in the material

[1:05:27] that he got for free I support him I mean in the court supporting him because

[1:05:32] it's something that benefits the county okay I mean I took here the thing is

[1:05:39] I'm looking out for everybody because even it even one oath of office is

[1:05:44] where everything wasn't right the bonds weren't right I reviewed the

[1:05:47] bonds on a lot of elected officials, the bonds were not executed by the vendors.

[1:05:52] The bonding companies didn't do that.

[1:05:54] I took care of the elected officials at the first of the year.

[1:05:57] Some of the oaths were not done.

[1:05:58] I got you all copies of the oaths because you didn't know.

[1:06:03] There's things that I do on a day-to-day basis and the thing is I'm looking out for

[1:06:09] the commissioners.

[1:06:11] I try to make sure that we stay legal.

[1:06:12] But that's a team effort, okay?

[1:06:17] So I'm just asking you, please.

[1:06:19] Well, just think about it, as you talked about enhancements,

[1:06:22] I think this building was designed, you know,

[1:06:24] and I think it had good intentions.

[1:06:26] I think that there's spaces that are still available,

[1:06:29] and that's why we're looking at it.

[1:06:30] I can't imagine any building from day one

[1:06:32] that's just perfectly designed that you can't find

[1:06:35] that there's absences and rooms for improvement.

[1:06:38] And, you know, the statement was made

[1:06:40] that she needed the improvements.

[1:06:42] This is why we looked at considering moving her.

[1:06:45] And I think that that space down to the end

[1:06:47] is a perfect spot to exercise that.

[1:06:51] We never had it before, it's so loud.

[1:06:54] And we used to do the elections in the collections office.

[1:06:57] But then whenever it come out,

[1:06:59] we had to have an elections office.

[1:07:00] It changed the dynamics of that.

[1:07:02] But as far as your workload,

[1:07:04] I appreciate it.

[1:07:04] Some of the things that you do,

[1:07:06] I'm willing to take over for you

[1:07:07] if it's more than what you want to take home.

[1:07:10] I took care of the veterans for the whole time until you come along and I appreciate you stepping up and doing that

[1:07:16] And I thought you did that at will. I don't remember the courts actually appointing you to it

[1:07:20] But I'm glad you did it and you did a good job. I stayed in contact with them

[1:07:24] You went overboard taking care of my thought it was great

[1:07:28] But I did it all before to get them out of the law to put them where they're at and do what they've done

[1:07:32] Exercising the edges of that building and put it together put me to work

[1:07:36] the courts at the whole.

[1:07:37] We worked together on getting another officer in there.

[1:07:40] The lady just said, you're doing a fine job

[1:07:41] and you're doing a great job and I appreciate it.

[1:07:44] But if the workload gets too much,

[1:07:45] I think there's any member of this court

[1:07:47] would step up and take some of those responsibilities

[1:07:49] from you to help you.

[1:07:51] That's the whole point is I'm dealing with the workload.

[1:07:56] I agree.

[1:07:57] And I took on the magistration.

[1:07:59] I didn't actually do that.

[1:08:00] I took on the magistration.

[1:08:01] I'm doing EWs 24-7.

[1:08:03] I agree.

[1:08:04] And I appreciate it.

[1:08:05] I call them one, two, three o'clock in the morning,

[1:08:07] even on the weekends, and I take care of business.

[1:08:13] That's the way I'm built.

[1:08:14] I take care of business.

[1:08:15] I don't go around complaining about it,

[1:08:17] but what I'm asking you all to do is help me,

[1:08:20] not have to do all this changing,

[1:08:22] because it's gonna be a major distraction for me.

[1:08:24] It's gonna take time on task for me to deal with.

[1:08:27] It's gonna displace them out of their offices

[1:08:29] and move and crap around.

[1:08:31] I'm just asking.

[1:08:32] Well, if you move Casey out of these storage rooms,

[1:08:34] to that to store. Why would that disrupt your operation?

[1:08:37] Okay.

[1:08:38] And then if the two girls move to another place, how does that –

[1:08:41] Can we just – RIT, Mike, is there a way we can get Mike in here

[1:08:46] and then see if he can go live stream with us?

[1:08:50] I think we need to walk collectively as a court

[1:08:54] and everybody, the viewers there and the people here in the courtroom,

[1:08:58] we just need to walk collectively and let's go make a decision.

[1:09:01] And is there a way we can get Mike in here to see if we can do that the camera the only camera

[1:09:05] We got right there. Yeah, I didn't know if he's got it where he can actually hook up to it with his phone somehow

[1:09:11] And then go live stream

[1:09:14] It's it. He can't do it it

[1:09:16] We'd have to do it on YouTube and right now we don't do YouTube anymore because that's subject open records

[1:09:22] So this that we're doing right here is subject open records and good thing about is everybody can go to it now and see it

[1:09:29] So, the YouTube, we always had a problem, we always had a concern that YouTube could

[1:09:35] take us down.

[1:09:36] You know, if they said, well, that one phrase that we don't agree with, so we're going to,

[1:09:40] you know, how they did during some of the elections, they were taking people's posts

[1:09:44] down and things.

[1:09:45] So, that doesn't happen.

[1:09:47] I have one question about the emergency management officer back there.

[1:09:51] If we did have, say, a bad emergency, are those radio computers and everything,

[1:09:56] or are they compatible where we can talk to the city or where we can talk to

[1:10:01] everyone. When we put those radios down there, okay, we made those interoperable

[1:10:06] because Curtis Snow was a city manager, okay. He was a city manager. Pat Henderson

[1:10:11] was a police chief, okay. John Hobson was a sheriff and Mike Link was a chief

[1:10:17] deputy. We were all on board with making that a central dispatch, okay.

[1:10:21] Curtis Snow and I talked. He said we can save on employee salaries by combining

[1:10:28] our dispatch. Bell County did that. They had four or five dispatchers that were

[1:10:33] taken care of Bell County, Belton, Fort Hood, all those calls. They had call

[1:10:38] takers that weren't dispatchers and didn't have to be licensed. They could

[1:10:42] take the calls. They shift the calls over to the to the dispatcher and

[1:10:48] they do the cause. So me and Travis Nimmins went down there and looked at that one and

[1:10:53] that was one of Travis Nimmins, his plaques outside. That was Travis Nimmins idea. I bought

[1:10:59] into it. Curtis, Pat Henderson said, Judge, we were interacting about how's it going

[1:11:05] to work, okay? Pat says, okay, Judge, I got officers that are going to pick somebody

[1:11:11] up by their self. In other words, one officer, and we're going to have warrants. How

[1:11:17] How are we going to get the warrant out of dispatch physically to the officer as he takes

[1:11:24] them to jail?

[1:11:25] So that's what that bank teller to be is out there.

[1:11:29] That was the solution.

[1:11:30] They could pull up right there at that bank teller.

[1:11:33] They could take the warrant, put it in the tube and send it out to the officer.

[1:11:37] They never have to exit the vehicle.

[1:11:39] Okay?

[1:11:39] So that was one problem that Pat identified.

[1:11:42] Mike Link and John Hobson were on board with it, okay?

[1:11:47] Then the lesson happened, Greg won the chief change,

[1:11:52] the city manager change.

[1:11:54] So that's what happened, okay?

[1:11:56] But I understand that, but my question is, they're interoperable?

[1:12:00] Today, if something bad happened, we could open that up

[1:12:03] and it would go right to where radios would talk.

[1:12:06] We could talk to the sheriff's department.

[1:12:08] If they had a minor strike on their building

[1:12:10] and took their dispatch out, the dispatchers can come in here and sit down.

[1:12:14] They won't have the PSAP.

[1:12:16] The PSAP is public service answering point and some of that may not – that wouldn't

[1:12:21] be there.

[1:12:21] That's provided by the cop, okay?

[1:12:24] But they can sit down and they can dispatch their cops.

[1:12:28] If we had something major, you're going to have people calling, checking on their

[1:12:33] families.

[1:12:34] If you had an airplane crash, if you had a tornado and you got a bunch of – a

[1:12:38] whole major area torn up then you're going to have people having to call in

[1:12:42] and the dispatch is going to get it it's going to the dispatch that's what

[1:12:46] happened during show everybody's calling in they couldn't make calls okay so we

[1:12:53] could put people right there have call takers taken taking the calls and that

[1:12:58] we can dispatch extra we could have extra dispatch stations if the PD goes

[1:13:02] down they can go in there we can we had interoperability the whole point

[1:13:06] was just so we could all talk to each other. Okay, just my question. Everybody's going to flip over

[1:13:12] the analog because I'll be obsolete at that point, but my point is they can sit up in a smaller area.

[1:13:17] In fact, we had it work when they set it up that if the DPS helicopters in here or anybody

[1:13:24] else, we could still talk to those people. So, so yes, as of today, if something happens,

[1:13:32] we can go in there and everything is compatible right now we can talk to the

[1:13:36] city, the Sheriff's Department. We don't have to go to the city. In other words, we don't have to go try to find a

[1:13:41] facility that is set up in here, okay? We could actually operate. Is that correct, Mr. Mike?

[1:13:46] We've been doing radios, but with the equipment that's in there,

[1:13:53] besides the radios, computers, telephones, which I know they're all on the

[1:13:58] broadband setup, but I mean, tell them about what you've done with your storage

[1:14:04] facility with all the laptops that you've got charging on a day-to-day basis so

[1:14:09] anybody needs a computer we have to set up and all you got to do is carry them a

[1:14:13] computer and we're up and running with a computer for whoever. Yes, the network

[1:14:17] is running in their rooms. We do have over a dozen laptops that we could set

[1:14:22] up for whatever entity needs it. Most time we have entities bringing their

[1:14:26] own stuff. But, yes, they can talk on radios, they can bring up their computers. When we

[1:14:33] had the flood, we actually stood up in that center area, also a call sign, and we actually

[1:14:40] had four people answering phone calls to the public. We set those phones up through

[1:14:47] our new, our phone system, the Vonage system, and we actually had them capability of having

[1:14:53] a little rolling phone line that would actually call, allow them to call out.

[1:15:01] What part of that room were y'all?

[1:15:03] We were actually in the area where all the tables are, so that way that they used a dispatch.

[1:15:11] And then we were also in the warring for doing with the, when we had all the different entities

[1:15:18] sitting there trying to make sure that all their, the city was there, the county was

[1:15:24] there, the fire department had somebody there.

[1:15:27] We also had radio guys that were also there making because there's a radio direct

[1:15:32] Connection and right there to where the radios could be

[1:15:35] He was actually monitoring and making sure the vfts had all the information that they needed

[1:15:40] We have redundancy down there also because we got a ham operator in Y2k

[1:15:46] Everybody wasn't sure what was going to happen and we went through why take 2k

[1:15:51] We had ham operators at the fire departments around the whole county

[1:15:54] so we could at least be able to get emergency services anywhere around the county in case

[1:15:59] radio systems went down.

[1:16:01] So we've got a ham radio operator that's set up in there right now.

[1:16:05] So with that said, deploying out the radio, the laptops, even setup phone system, you're

[1:16:12] capable of doing that same thing here in this room right here, correct?

[1:16:15] I could do it pretty much anywhere.

[1:16:17] Yes.

[1:16:17] Okay, let me ask you, where's the phones at right now?

[1:16:20] If we had a disaster right now today, where's the phones at?

[1:16:23] There's no phones in here, there's no radios in here.

[1:16:26] Those are not just mobile radios down there, those are consoles.

[1:16:30] Some of them are dispatch consoles because they were actually intended for that dispatch

[1:16:35] so that they're still there and they're usable.

[1:16:38] So it's not like you can set this thing up.

[1:16:40] The thing is, if you have a disaster and that was the one thing that I was looking

[1:16:46] at when all that started is we can't take over all of our facilities

[1:16:51] and make them not operational because you still got to do the day-to-day operations down there.

[1:16:58] The whole idea was because we went from the courthouse to the sheriff's office and the sheriff's

[1:17:04] office was EOC and then we'd go to the civic center to deal with the media. So all that was

[1:17:08] taken into consideration when we built this. Everybody in the operation center would be

[1:17:13] working down there. We're separated from the media so that way we can have time on task

[1:17:19] focusing on what we needed to do. The media was going to be handled in 103 and

[1:17:24] actually we did a tabletop exercise and that's exactly what we did because you're

[1:17:28] going to have about six or eight ten trucks out here with a bunch of antennas

[1:17:32] that can sit out here in this corner parking lot so they're up and we'll put

[1:17:37] the media in 103. This is the same thing if Sheriff had some kind of manhunt

[1:17:41] going on and we've got to help them in here with dispatching or whatever

[1:17:46] we can do that. At the same time, he's going to have to have a place to deal with the media

[1:17:52] like some of these other places that you see. So it's not just any one emergency, and you're

[1:17:59] throwing something together. It's together. You can immediately respond to anything that

[1:18:04] happens. But that's their office down there. I mean, that's their office. The legend,

[1:18:11] she's over there working right now. Anything we start doing is going to disrupt both

[1:18:16] emergency management and election. The doors go in from the elections in that

[1:18:19] room so she just walk in to go to work. What about the first section that room?

[1:18:23] That's the emergency operation center and you have to separate it from the

[1:18:27] general workers. If you've got call takers and dispatchers out there in one

[1:18:30] room and you've got the sheriff and the county judge and the mayor and the

[1:18:34] city manager you got EMS or people with a hospital whatever are in that

[1:18:39] room because you can't even hear yourself faint if you don't separate

[1:18:45] some of those things that are going on you I mean there's there's so many moving

[1:18:49] parts that you have to have dealt with it I mean I've been doing this stuff for 40

[1:18:54] years so the man is every day so she has to do something every day she works

[1:19:00] hard at that commissioner 103 be this wherever things going on that's

[1:19:05] exactly right so what's wrong is it what's wrong send emergency Mike got

[1:19:09] a question and let me make powerpoint presentations you have to take photos

[1:19:14] and incorporate those photos.

[1:19:15] If you were to do a video of a walk around,

[1:19:20] we could take that and upload it at a better time.

[1:19:23] We could take that and put it, you know,

[1:19:26] upload we would have to actually,

[1:19:27] because we're not actually doing YouTube anymore.

[1:19:30] Honestly.

[1:19:31] So Granicus is pushing our stuff.

[1:19:33] So if we were to set up another meeting

[1:19:36] and we were to play that during that meeting,

[1:19:39] all that video footage would go up

[1:19:41] onto just like with the PowerPoint presentations.

[1:19:43] Yes, sir, but I don't have a way to like take a mobile mobile camera because I mean they are a built-in and we're wired

[1:19:51] Yeah, I just wanted to make sure if you could take a photo

[1:19:55] You think you take a platform presentation corporate data into the granicus. Yes stuff for our meeting

[1:20:02] Yes, it will be there for someone to see it in a later moment. Yes, okay

[1:20:05] So therefore we can't get up and we do have some of those still on the older

[1:20:10] Stuff that the county judge put up

[1:20:13] And we do have some of those, but I mean, if you want to identify more information, then

[1:20:20] yes, we can put videos up and.

[1:20:22] Mr. Whitebanks, he answered your question and we could go down.

[1:20:27] I'm ready to do it.

[1:20:28] I think we have to.

[1:20:30] I think we owe that to the people to do that before we do anything so that they can see

[1:20:41] what's being projected.

[1:20:44] I think we have to.

[1:20:45] there's no there's no way around it.

[1:20:49] I'd like to do it right now. That's why I put the

[1:20:52] bathroom up there. So, that's my hope for doing this.

[1:20:56] Well, that room, like I said, the room is this size with two girls in it. And that's why I just was considering the fact that we can move them around to a smaller area, set up, and then let Casey do her job, and she could have everything she needed right there out the back of her office space, and she wouldn't have to be running back

[1:21:16] for what these hallways and do the things she does until she has her big

[1:21:19] elections and we already have all even judges fire point job that will still

[1:21:23] have to sit up in the bigger rooms as well as transport and equipment from

[1:21:27] there to here would be a lot less than putting it in a trailer and hauling

[1:21:30] other than the fact that one's a portal once you've got to go out on the

[1:21:33] election station which you'll always be no matter what you do well in the

[1:21:37] rain goes you probably would not be as judge was saying the radios would be

[1:21:41] kind of difficult because you've got the tower going right outside the

[1:21:44] back side which has a limited gain so you kind of have to worry about that and

[1:21:50] that's where we have to be moved out of there if you put case down there we have

[1:21:53] no we know that we have no immediate response for any emergency and there's

[1:22:00] no it's gonna happen okay this is the thing there's more threats now than

[1:22:04] ever with all those people that came across the border you got tears to

[1:22:07] enter this country every county in this in the state of Texas has got to

[1:22:12] be concerned about a terrorist attack, and nobody's thinking about that stuff. I participated

[1:22:19] in a tabletop in San Angelo, Texas, and that was one of the number one things in the tabletop

[1:22:25] because I was a teach instructor at the time with Texas A&M Extension Service with doing

[1:22:31] the tabletop for all that community. And the first thing that they got was all the

[1:22:36] communications got knocked but the control room in the front would could

[1:22:42] visit the towers there it could be moved to the other big part that the room

[1:22:47] easily couldn't I mean as far as it goes wouldn't be moving the distances and

[1:22:51] they cut the office ties down if we all got together look this is trying to give

[1:22:55] her a little more space you know what I'm talking about if they if you were to

[1:23:00] move things around the radio room wouldn't be able to be moved you

[1:23:06] would actually have to physically turn up new pretty much turn up I'm guessing I

[1:23:11] don't know exactly you would have to probably talk to Christina about that

[1:23:16] and and get some of the guys in there to know radios better but I know that all

[1:23:21] that wiring is going right into that radio room which is right off to the

[1:23:26] right next to another location if we have to and that's a minute is

[1:23:32] Versus buying a $350,000 build and I think that's what commission is trying to explain. Can't that be done?

[1:23:37] I mean the expense of that would be more or minimal to anything far as I know

[1:23:42] That would be okay. I just don't know you have to talk to the radio guys

[1:23:46] I didn't know. Yeah, that's fine. Now phones the phones and the computer equipment. That's

[1:23:52] That's that's right now is

[1:23:54] So we would need a tower and a 75 foot max turn on

[1:23:58] and that's a max to run on the coax so

[1:24:02] I think that wouldn't be that much movement if we needed to.

[1:24:09] Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.

[1:24:11] It's going to disrupt service.

[1:24:13] It's going to displace my people.

[1:24:15] And they're not going to be able to function.

[1:24:17] And who are we talking about?

[1:24:19] Emergency management analyst.

[1:24:21] They just grab over it.

[1:24:23] What are we trying to fix?

[1:24:24] What are we trying to fix nothing?

[1:24:26] Because right now they're operational 100%.

[1:24:28] They're taking care of their business.

[1:24:30] All we're doing is playing shuffleboard

[1:24:32] with a bunch of, a bunch of offices, 103B, we can, we'll leave room 103B, everything stays the same,

[1:24:40] nothing changes. But if we would purchase the building and move it, are that not a cause of

[1:24:45] disruption? But you're supposed to do that. Okay, hold on a second. No, what I wanted to do was

[1:24:51] enhance elections, not disrupt emergency management, is enhance elections. And we're going to put

[1:24:59] All of her stuff, like she said, her signs, all her stuff, so we're here in this other

[1:25:04] building.

[1:25:05] Everything could have went in one building, in one location.

[1:25:08] She could have done it on a day-to-day basis, and if we didn't buy the building, don't

[1:25:14] buy the building.

[1:25:15] Leave everything like it is.

[1:25:17] Don't disrupt services.

[1:25:18] That's what's fixing to happen, and I know that, and nobody's listening to me.

[1:25:25] That's the problem.

[1:25:25] I'm the elected official that deals with it and I'm the one that is trying, I've talked

[1:25:31] and communicated with all my people.

[1:25:36] So I would totally, I totally respect when y'all come in here and tell me something about

[1:25:41] Rodin Bridge.

[1:25:42] You keep saying that.

[1:25:43] I listen to it a hundred percent and I usually take the recommendation of everything that

[1:25:47] y'all ask for or need and I support you a hundred percent.

[1:25:51] The sheriff has come in here and asked for lots of different things for the last two,

[1:25:55] two, two and a half years, and a lot of them

[1:25:57] might have supported him on them.

[1:25:58] There's some of it that I didn't support him on,

[1:26:00] but most of it I have.

[1:26:02] Anything that was reason, all of his radios

[1:26:04] and laptops and everything else,

[1:26:06] that's important to him to be able to take care

[1:26:09] of his business on a day-to-day basis.

[1:26:12] Okay?

[1:26:12] It's just like the contract for the inmates.

[1:26:16] He's coming here making a recommendation.

[1:26:17] He's gonna be able to do something

[1:26:19] to get some funds to help with that.

[1:26:20] We understood that.

[1:26:21] We were setting him up.

[1:26:21] Okay, so I-

[1:26:22] But I think you got a room down there

[1:26:24] that you've got a passion for and you like the way it is.

[1:26:26] It's not what it is.

[1:26:27] It's our place.

[1:26:28] And we don't want to bend it up to try to help make some more room.

[1:26:32] And we're trying to figure out some way to help Casey and have more room.

[1:26:37] And we have talked to Casey, but we don't want to put it on the spot to have her in

[1:26:40] here to testify on what she does and what she needs.

[1:26:43] She don't want that role.

[1:26:44] But to sit there and give it and you to give up a little bit of space to reset

[1:26:49] it.

[1:26:50] You can do it anywhere.

[1:26:51] You're not willing to do it.

[1:26:52] And that's what you don't want to do is the reason you're pushing back on this order the reason

[1:26:56] I'm not being used enough to justify setting there 20 years you made the statement you want to withdraw it which is

[1:27:02] What's very accurate since it's nothing to done since 2006 or whatever it was

[1:27:06] And I was when you left and I put that in I know you did but you know wait a minute wait a minute that report

[1:27:12] I had a report and I was going to correct my own statement a lot of people won't

[1:27:17] meant they made a mistake if they're elected officials. I made a mistake and I

[1:27:21] said something and that was what I believed but I went back and got with

[1:27:26] emergency management. There's a report in your reports today from emergency

[1:27:29] management of all the tabletop exercises and it wasn't necessarily all of them

[1:27:36] weren't in here but some of them were in here. They did a regional emergency

[1:27:43] full-scale deal back in around 16. So there's been stuff that goes on, but they could do

[1:27:51] that in any other place they could.

[1:27:53] If they're not set up to do it, they'll change and set up. Yes, sir. They'll change and set

[1:27:58] up. I mean, again, I won't back down. I think that's the best solution. And that's a,

[1:28:04] that from my standpoint I'm just one vote on the court we can get the most

[1:28:10] effective use out of this annex. I know there's been a lot said you know

[1:28:15] especially about stuff like I mean I'm gonna bring it back up I probably should

[1:28:20] but taking credit for things and showing up for a small amount of time

[1:28:26] I mean when you go somewhere and you show up and you're present and you

[1:28:31] help offer the best solution or you answer a couple questions that are needed

[1:28:36] from a public standpoint and you're not a nuisance to the people you don't have

[1:28:40] to hang around a long time and you don't have to be there for the opening and

[1:28:43] closing, you don't have to just make it seem like people just love to see you.

[1:28:49] Nobody loves to see nobody but their family, their wife, their husband,

[1:28:52] where ever they go home to be with their children. A lot of that other

[1:28:55] than that is just work and you're gonna take care of your business, you're

[1:28:58] than you put people and that's what you do and I think that's best approach I

[1:29:02] brought and I think that judges you do a lot, magistrate, they appreciate all that.

[1:29:07] You take on a lot of extra steps. I've been here and I've worked with three

[1:29:11] different county judges since I've been here, my tenure and some of the things

[1:29:15] they that you do, they wouldn't help pass the book on to somebody else and

[1:29:20] nobody's seeing what you just like last court. I gave you gratitude on your

[1:29:24] efforts forward and your plans you push on a lot of things here and they're good

[1:29:28] things and I still stand by in that same statement but I mean there's times when

[1:29:33] if we don't agree the same way you want us to or agree with you or anything or if

[1:29:39] you feel one of us is against you I mean I remember when you first came in this

[1:29:42] time I still had the same respect when you were coaching a little league

[1:29:46] football and me and the rest of the guys all of us we we looked up to

[1:29:51] I still live up to you, but I do know one thing, if you don't figure I'm 100% with you or on your side.

[1:30:00] I won't be in the loophole or I won't be the one you call. And that's okay. That's just

[1:30:03] a style. That's how you work. But again, I have a job to do for the people. And that's

[1:30:09] what I have to understand is when we come in this courtroom, all differences are aside.

[1:30:13] We are working for the people who have led us to work for. And that's what I want to do.

[1:30:18] And we don't have to purchase other buildings to arrange these employees and give them the

[1:30:23] space they need. We have it right here. We can effectively use it. We can talk to all the

[1:30:28] office holders, we can show them right now what you're doing. I'm going back to

[1:30:33] Fulawari. Everybody's giving their side to why they're

[1:30:36] letting you do this. You know we're going to get up, walk down there and look at

[1:30:39] these rooms together because that's something we hadn't done just like we

[1:30:41] were going to take a recess and go over here and look at the bank building.

[1:30:44] Why can't we get a recess and go down here and look at the emergency

[1:30:47] command center. Also Mike has already clarified that he can incorporate

[1:30:52] anything up later on needs to be added to the court meeting so if we want to do

[1:30:59] that let's do it if not I feel we should adjourn this meeting we just wasting

[1:31:04] quite a time. Before

[1:31:09] another adjourn I do have the contract back that for the

[1:31:12] sheriff that Allison approved a form if y'all want to take a look at it real

[1:31:15] quick and maybe amend your motion if y'all were done with that agenda item.

[1:31:22] We're going to have freestyle county, but we do I mean, could we do this one prior to the end of the end?

[1:31:27] We can do that so the sheriff doesn't have to wait seven years.

[1:31:32] She's forwarded it to me and I've sent it to the sheriff over there.

[1:31:35] They're speaking to the county judge right now about potentially getting it signed.

[1:31:39] So I'll let you know if I get information.

[1:31:43] All

[1:31:50] right, so we're going back to number 13.

[1:31:54] the Inter-Local Agreement for the Stone County Sheriff's Officer housing their

[1:32:01] handmaids for $50 a day.

[1:32:21] To this look a lot like Henderson County's when we did

[1:32:24] Henderson County. I think that was based on a Henderson County. I figured that's probably what you used.

[1:32:31] Sheriff have

[1:34:50] you had an opportunity to look over this?

[1:34:54] So the one question I've

[1:34:55] I know in previous kind of talking to you and touring the jail, we talked about some of the

[1:35:07] issues with health care, being a big expense for the taxpayers for us, you know, having

[1:35:16] to take them to the hospital or whatever, this and that.

[1:35:20] Are we going to be, so these inmates, they're going to be under our policy if anything

[1:35:26] happens ailment-wise? Because I'm reading in section 7, Anderson County that such prisoners

[1:35:33] should cause physical bodily or property damage to one or more persons or various property

[1:35:39] including detention facility as a part of the agreement and based on consideration

[1:35:43] extended by Anderson County to Freestone County as a part here of Freestone County

[1:35:48] agrees to fully and completely identify and hold harmless Anderson County its sheriff

[1:35:55] deputy's elected officials, employees, agents, contractors, sort of. But does it take care of,

[1:36:00] I mean, if so, one of them gets sick, that we take in, are they going to be

[1:36:05] fronting the dime for that, or is that going to be on us? They're going to pay for that.

[1:36:09] Yes, it is in here. And it says, even if they transfer them to any medical facilities

[1:36:13] or Memphis, they take responsibility for transforming them.

[1:36:18] Is that the sheriff's discretion, whether the person needs to go to the hospital or?

[1:36:23] It also says if they tear up anything, they can tear the seat off the toilet if they don't.

[1:36:28] Okay.

[1:36:31] It looks like they're taking all the financial liabilities, responsibilities or anything they

[1:36:38] do.

[1:36:39] We won't withhold anything from them, but any benefits incurred will be passed on to

[1:36:43] them.

[1:36:43] Beautiful.

[1:36:45] If even today goes to the point of seeing them, they require a special diet.

[1:36:49] So it says that they pay for the special diets, whatever it is, if it's beyond what

[1:36:53] our feet step in. Okay, the only thing I'm concerned is the medical

[1:37:01] contract that we have those same people will be they'll be seeing our those

[1:37:08] inmates as well as our inmates correct yes sir yes sir okay so is there gonna

[1:37:12] be and is that maybe do we need to have some type of fee for that medical to

[1:37:19] recoup some of our costs there. Our medical pays it's the cost it will flat rate

[1:37:24] up to a certain ADP and if there are people beyond that we pay extra we're

[1:37:29] not going to be beyond that number with these additional but you put that in on

[1:37:33] that $50 deal. Well I figured in that the over-the-counter stuff that we'll give

[1:37:37] them an aspirin we'll give them some for headache but we when we have to call

[1:37:41] diagnostic which we call diagnostic sometime or extra your other people to

[1:37:46] the jail for services, that direct bill will go to them. If we take them out of

[1:37:50] this facility, whether it's for a toothache, an eye checkup, or to the ER for

[1:37:55] serious treatment, that bill will go directly to them. Other than being able

[1:38:01] to verbally speak to a nurse, we're not going to provide them anything unless

[1:38:06] it's on the level like an aspirin or an acid. If you see they're going to be

[1:38:11] and major impact are medically you can always tell them come get we have that

[1:38:15] for our window I would take them to the hospital and have the sheriff meet me

[1:38:19] over there or send somebody over there we're not going to withhold medical

[1:38:22] treatment but we will make sure the county's not unduly burdened with any

[1:38:26] financial commitment are you gonna be holding them in the old side are you

[1:38:29] gonna be home they'll be in the new side okay any questions about the

[1:38:38] contract or is everybody acceptable with the contract?

[1:38:40] No, I can't accept it.

[1:38:41] I like it.

[1:38:42] OK.

[1:38:44] Going back to item number 13,

[1:38:52] I'll

[1:38:52] entertain a motion to approve the contract submitted

[1:38:55] by Sheriff Flores as an interlocual agreement

[1:39:00] with Anderson and Freestone County for us to house Freestone

[1:39:06] County inmates at a fee of $50 per day.

[1:39:09] and this this has been looked over and approved by our district attorney I'll

[1:39:15] entertain a motion to approve the contract. The county judge has to sign it to be

[1:39:20] submitted to Freestone County for approval. So moved. Motion by Commissioner

[1:39:26] Heald. Second. Second. Second. Second by Commissioner Chapin. All in favor say aye.

[1:39:30] Aye. All opposed. So ordered. Okay. So all you got to do is get them to sign it. Turn it in and put it in good shape.

[1:39:38] I'll

[1:39:58] put a date out beside my name because it may be a date or so before they get it done.

[1:40:03] So I'll

[1:40:08] let you know it's a grant, but the date, it was fully executed, didn't it?

[1:40:16] I'm going to give that to Megan so she can work with you and get that emailed over there to them.

[1:40:22] Is it okay?

[1:40:23] Yes.

[1:40:24] All right.

[1:40:24] Because we can't file stamp it.

[1:40:26] We can't file stamp it yet until it's executed, okay?

[1:40:30] Let

[1:40:32] me go ahead and...

[1:40:34] Well, it's going to be probably an email, so let's, uh...

[1:40:37] Let me look. I may have something from them right now, Judge.

[1:40:40] Okay.

[1:40:43] You are to submit it in that, Dr. Reagan.

[1:40:45] Yeah, I don't know if they have it like what any of them did.

[1:40:49] Yeah, unless they had it on the agenda, they're going to have a meeting.

[1:40:58] I think you made the motion, didn't you, Joy?

[1:41:01] Mm-hmm.

[1:41:03] Great.

[1:41:03] Okay, so got a motion in a second.

[1:41:07] All in favor, say aye.

[1:41:08] Aye.

[1:41:09] Aye.

[1:41:09] All opposed?

[1:41:10] so I don't think we voted. Okay.

[1:41:20] So do we want to walk down?

[1:41:23] Yeah. What are you talking about doing?

[1:41:28] Just recording on your phone and then uploading it?

[1:41:32] I mean, I can go grab my phone and we can do that.

[1:41:38] I mean, I unfortunately didn't bring either one of my phones

[1:41:41] or we'll sit down on my charger on my desk.

[1:41:43] If I heard just a question.

[1:41:47] I mean I think if it can be approached that way I think that's what we should

[1:41:51] need we need to do. I understand in that room back there, Judge, there's a fire

[1:41:56] alarm, a generator panels, other stuff like that that needs to be monitored and

[1:42:00] I believe you, IT, even emergency pantry can go back and monitor those if they

[1:42:08] need to just on that side. I mean when you take the full aspect of the JP to

[1:42:12] court room that's I mean offices those are large offices the front office for

[1:42:17] the clerk and then for the JP and only days over there that I see really there

[1:42:24] be a vital disruption to change anything with Christina would be the the

[1:42:30] file cabinets that needs to be secured with all her data and stuff she has to

[1:42:33] have for all they have to be just moved over to those rooms and then we

[1:42:35] also have that big room right beside the girls restroom judge I have a

[1:42:40] What about the ice machine that they had installed there last year?

[1:42:44] But just somewhere else.

[1:42:45] We can win this.

[1:42:46] See, those are just the ones.

[1:42:47] This is the front.

[1:42:47] I know.

[1:42:48] That was just a, you know, softball 7.

[1:42:50] Casey's not going to want emergency management going in there.

[1:42:54] I mean, if I'm good, I don't go into this one without some of them.

[1:42:59] But that's the case.

[1:43:00] We can take them right there where that door goes in and build them.

[1:43:02] There's going to be a one-wall across them.

[1:43:04] You're all that in.

[1:43:06] I would just ask them.

[1:43:06] We'll just take a second.

[1:43:07] We can move it.

[1:43:08] We'll small check this.

[1:43:10] So if you can go with you, you're fine with us.

[1:43:13] Did you want to do that?

[1:43:14] One more thing to add into another court session.

[1:43:19] The office is the courthouse.

[1:43:21] It's occupied by the district clerk and two employees.

[1:43:25] So we can't move.

[1:43:26] Leave it.

[1:43:27] That was just an option.

[1:43:28] We can leave that one.

[1:43:29] Forget that, as I said, and put them in any other one.

[1:43:32] But I mean, you can take the jail cells out and build a big office right there.

[1:43:36] Well, so you're going to put my merchants here in the office also in Jail.

[1:43:40] But you built the Jail?

[1:43:43] There's concrete walls and ceilings.

[1:43:44] They're leaving the concrete walls and ceilings now.

[1:43:47] I'm talking about running co-waxing, radio and phone, all that's displaced.

[1:43:54] It seems like there's just an answer for everything.

[1:43:56] Let's walk back here and look at the phone.

[1:43:58] Did you, like, if you want to pause this session and start over and then here.

[1:44:06] I guess what I'm just trying to think how they're going to do it on Granicus side because again we don't we don't usually

[1:44:13] We can I don't have them on site. So this is that's why I was saying if we were to do this video recording and then put it on another session

[1:44:24] And well we can't close this one because we have to stay we have to stay operating so if we close this we can't go down as a court

[1:44:29] So we have to keep this going because we're not on the record.

[1:44:34] We can pause this and he can record everything.

[1:44:39] He can record everything with his phone.

[1:44:41] We can have to go down there and be quiet until we get there, open up whichever office

[1:44:45] we go in first.

[1:44:46] Where we start at JP2, whether we go to the little storage room right there, we go

[1:44:50] to the jail cells, we go to the emergency center right after that in-cases office

[1:44:54] in 103B.

[1:44:57] I don't want to tell you about the emergency management personnel, it's not a hand.

[1:45:02] We know they do a good job. We're not saying they don't do nothing. They work here in Anderson

[1:45:08] County. We know they do a good job. And they're needed. We know they're needed. That's why we're

[1:45:13] trying to come.

[1:45:14] Okay, let's take a recess. We'll pause the video. Can George pause it?

[1:45:22] Should be able to. Yes, sir.

[1:45:23] Okay.

[1:45:23] Are

[1:45:29] we rolling again, Mark?

[1:45:31] I'm going to have to brief recess to go look at facilities and the commissioners' court

[1:45:36] reconvene out of recess at 11.42 a.m. and show that a court is present all the members

[1:45:48] of the court are back in the courtroom.

[1:45:50] So,

[1:45:54] what's the next thing?

[1:45:57] We're back on item number nine.

[1:46:03] Item number nine.

[1:46:03] Anybody

[1:46:15] got anything?

[1:46:16] After seeing those, after seeing the emergency command center and seeing both rooms,

[1:46:24] what perspective has it put your mind, said Ian, now of trying to find more space for Casey,

[1:46:31] Elections Administrator and her machines, offices and everything else?

[1:46:37] I mean, we don't 103B, we notice 103B is basing a bunch of tables with a bunch of extension

[1:46:45] cards and power strips.

[1:46:48] I know I did count in the EOC down there, it has 16 power outlets,

[1:46:55] I think that would

[1:46:56] be great for the voting machines and everything else you need updating to do the countdown.

[1:47:02] That would be a great spot for counting down everything because-

[1:47:06] The count comes in right at the back door and go they don't come in down there

[1:47:11] They come in right here the likes of just they won't have to go up the ramp over there though

[1:47:15] Because if you come in if we open up that what is that? It's like where the

[1:47:21] Where the tower where the cell phone tower and where the other generator

[1:47:27] There's a back entrance they can come in right there a hallway

[1:47:30] They can come straight up there with those machines

[1:47:31] they won't have that long-hard ramp that we have for deliveries that a lot of our

[1:47:35] elections coordinators and everyone talked about how those that incline hurts the

[1:47:39] knees hips and everything else it'll be a straight smooth shot it's not it's I

[1:47:44] mean it's a little ramp but it's not as much as what you have back here at

[1:47:46] this door right here it's short the unfortunate election administrator isn't

[1:47:52] here so and I wouldn't I wouldn't want to bring you into I think it's

[1:47:55] gonna cost too much you said earlier she didn't want to be here and as I

[1:48:00] stated I would love for her to come in and talk with me I think. Okay this is

[1:48:05] something that you need to see. She's got to be able to have people coming in and

[1:48:12] out of her office all the time. So she can't have election machines with the

[1:48:19] public in the same area as all those election machines. And so you got

[1:48:27] secured hallways so the public's not going to be able to come and go. Tara and

[1:48:35] Christina, when somebody hits that button after they go and they get them and

[1:48:40] escort them down to their office they're not just allowed to just walk down the

[1:48:44] hallways. So moving relations around then right now they've got a window

[1:48:52] people can walk up there it's secured just like the JP's they do it from the

[1:48:55] hallway, they register to vote, get to cards, do open records requests, file the necessary

[1:49:01] papers, all those kind of things. Right now they're set up to be able to greet and meet

[1:49:08] the public to take care of all their documentation and what they need to do.

[1:49:13] They'll still have their front under the first initial plan. They will still have

[1:49:17] their front to do that. I bet you can take this one-on-three

[1:49:22] be here wherever it is and put it behind them. And that's not something that the public access

[1:49:27] is. She can continue to set up her elections just like she's doing now, which was going

[1:49:31] to be done if she restored in this other building. If we would have went that route,

[1:49:35] there was still the elections. We're going to have to come here. So that doesn't change

[1:49:38] anything. But the elections are temporarily done. Well, the election people don't access

[1:49:43] the county rooms, but with it being in her back pocket, you would open up this

[1:49:48] one room for whenever we do have other events in here. And as far as that goes,

[1:49:52] we don't have to change the, uh, looks like where the jets are. I mean, they

[1:49:56] continue to use that for locking up particular things and just leave it

[1:50:00] alone. It's like we can't have everybody see man this all in that other end of it

[1:50:04] and then move over whatever's in that one front room back to that back. But we

[1:50:09] have a little issue and then we got a way to fix it. We go, sir. Another

[1:50:12] issue. I think that's the thing. The first step issues that dealing with

[1:50:16] all this stuff that without interacting with it on a day-to-day basis, there's no way to

[1:50:25] understand all the things that happen.

[1:50:27] Okay, Jett.

[1:50:28] So playing one initially was going to try to move around those offices as we spoke.

[1:50:33] There was a plan two, but when it was time to approach, we were going to come at y'all

[1:50:37] with a plan two.

[1:50:38] And the plan two was to come up after seeing the room with the walkthrough.

[1:50:43] Plan two is, if you don't move JP, if you don't move Christine and Tara from where they're located at now, if you leave jail cells the way they are, those are cases, everything else, we would just open up 103B by all nine cases.

[1:50:57] They have the emergency command center that's right behind her office.

[1:51:00] Can you ask?

[1:51:00] She would still have her front open for the people.

[1:51:03] Those doors are shut and locked right now, just like they are between her and the emergency management office.

[1:51:09] She can use that whole section back there with those 16 plugs for all of her

[1:51:13] machines and everything she's doing in 103B.

[1:51:17] All of that stuff that's in 103B is not going to fit in that EOC because all of her

[1:51:27] supplies are in that closet. She sits at that table. That's where she does a lot of her

[1:51:32] documentation. She has one of those tables right there where all of her supplies are at,

[1:51:37] All of her machines are at she does all of her documentation. She's got to count right down here on the end of that same room

[1:51:43] She's doing the count

[1:51:45] On election night. I mean, so the token move all that around

[1:51:50] It's not all gonna fit it. I mean that stores, you know, I said you look at it

[1:51:55] I didn't look at it, but she's always in this storage and has always been kept now

[1:51:58] Not if push needs to be showed of

[1:52:01] Builds origin. No, sir

[1:52:02] you can still have that for countdown and let her have that one storage but one

[1:52:05] on three is always open B to go along with the rest of when the district courts

[1:52:09] need it when we have our crystal parties and everything else and she'll still

[1:52:13] have that excess for her machines so my main goal was find a place with cheese

[1:52:17] and relieve some but did you not ask which one of those that that big move

[1:52:20] that one incident behind her office all up to that but the room yes sir it

[1:52:24] wasn't addressed this is the thing everything's working like it is so

[1:52:32] So why come up with all these different little solutions?

[1:52:35] Because there's going to be other things at crop up.

[1:52:37] Everything's working right now, exactly what's at.

[1:52:41] So why do we have to move anything?

[1:52:46] Because she's operation.

[1:52:48] She can do her job and take care of the elections.

[1:52:51] Because she's already proved that.

[1:52:53] Emergency management is operation.

[1:52:55] And they take care of their jobs.

[1:52:57] I mean, they've got multi-tests.

[1:52:58] They're not just emergency management.

[1:53:00] I mean, they're doing septic take inspections look at your report. I gave y'all a report. It's a tax on their report for today

[1:53:07] All of the different things that they have had to deal with over the last several years

[1:53:12] Some of them bigger than others. Okay, so

[1:53:16] On a day basis on a day-to-day basis there and they're inspecting septic tank

[1:53:21] They're doing stuff that help get these subdivisions in here. That's right. They're doing flood plain. They work with Kathy

[1:53:26] they're right there with so they work with Kathy to look at the subdivision make sure they made

[1:53:31] our subdivision rules and regulations they're doing making sure they're not building something

[1:53:36] in a flood point they're taking and making sure all our annexes that are required for the state

[1:53:42] that we have on all the time they're doing all that type of work and making sure it's

[1:53:49] current on so that we can get grants and they help get the grants they've gotten

[1:53:54] Homeland Security grants and help the fire departments.

[1:53:58] We had fire meetings down there.

[1:54:00] We've done training down there, never.

[1:54:03] Yes, sir.

[1:54:03] Well, it's not like it's not used.

[1:54:05] Okay.

[1:54:05] But this place, there's no reason to move anything.

[1:54:10] Well, it was.

[1:54:11] A month ago, when you started the other projects,

[1:54:13] you widened the range.

[1:54:15] That's what I'm just saying.

[1:54:16] Well, actually, the superintendent was very,

[1:54:19] I thought she was accurate on it,

[1:54:20] and that was trying to work out a system of the planet

[1:54:26] When you're out there working on roads and you find out some new technique and you go

[1:54:31] and do it, that's improving the delivery of services.

[1:54:34] The only thing, the bank building just kind of came up.

[1:54:38] I didn't plan it.

[1:54:39] I didn't go over trying to buy it.

[1:54:41] They came to us.

[1:54:42] But if we find a way to utilize the new building and hit that knock, it's still

[1:54:45] improving services?

[1:54:48] The bank building was nothing.

[1:54:49] It fell in our laps and it's going to get sold now.

[1:54:52] I mean, it's not even an opportunity. So as far as I'm concerned, that's that's dead in town

[1:54:59] Okay, so there's no reason to go back and start moving stuff around

[1:55:04] If we could enhance her services and put everything in one place

[1:55:08] That was only go right there if y'all wanted to both that move the extension office over

[1:55:14] Commissioner one banks went over there with me and he asked me to look and see what the

[1:55:19] those bearing walls that are there. We hadn't even had a chance to have a conversation about that.

[1:55:23] I climbed up in the ceiling with the ladder over there trying to answer his questions. He

[1:55:27] wanted to know if I thought maybe he's looking at moving the extension that might have been his

[1:55:31] office because I could have been a training room over there in that big room for the extension

[1:55:36] office. Move them over there. There's nothing wrong with the building. Sold the building at

[1:55:40] the beginning. I don't know what his idea was but he had some kind of idea because he

[1:55:44] asked me, look, it wasn't a load bearing was. And I did exactly what he asked me

[1:55:49] to do. I did it myself. I didn't get somebody else to do it. But if you could

[1:55:54] enhance her opportunity to have more room and to move her out of ways to have

[1:55:58] more room for other things, you're not even considered. Right now, not

[1:56:03] this place in emergency management. But is it displaced? You can kind of put

[1:56:07] them together in the one big room in the front. Look, everything's

[1:56:10] operational. It is operational. Everything's 100% operational. If you're not willing to,

[1:56:15] downsize the change to make things better. I'm not willing to cut my nose off spot on

[1:56:19] the face. I don't think you are. You're not doing anything in that room as much as what

[1:56:23] you are in elections. I don't know that you appreciate what she does in elections. That's

[1:56:28] what you told me. I didn't tell you that I didn't appreciate what she did. I didn't

[1:56:33] appreciate it. No, you said we didn't appreciate it as a court. I mean, I was just individualizing

[1:56:38] Well, Commissioner Wilbanks, I have a question for you, sir.

[1:56:42] After going down and viewing, and Commissioner Hill, y'all could chime in on this, knowing

[1:56:48] that there's a plan too, and with part two of the plan, if we didn't do all of, as

[1:56:54] judge stated, the disruption in the courthouse at the moment, would that plan, too, would

[1:56:59] only be safe versus taking away that first room that's right behind Casey, and

[1:57:04] how to utilize that space just like they locked those two doors and it'll be

[1:57:08] locked in one big door. Everything Judge and Ms. Christine and them have to operate

[1:57:14] in their emergency command center can be moved over, transferred to the room back

[1:57:19] behind. We won't have to worry about monitoring the radios or the fire

[1:57:22] system or changing the new ice machine or anything. I don't think what they

[1:57:26] have to do is because all her records here, if they are back there, maybe move

[1:57:30] down that petition if she would like it and have it all the way open in

[1:57:33] there because that's just a little have wall built a petition that someone had

[1:57:36] built right there it wasn't always in there just like this move that petition

[1:57:40] out of the way never move our office never move anything they still buzz

[1:57:44] people up go around the hallway to come to the back of the room said cases open

[1:57:47] up now she still have her front offices where she can deal with the public

[1:57:52] with her staff or whatever she chooses to fit put up there see fit and then

[1:57:58] And also, she now has a third of a room to incorporate however she want to put her machines,

[1:58:08] because we did buy one machine last year and the year before that to finish up what we needed

[1:58:13] for the county.

[1:58:16] So you're talking about just a little room behind the double doors that go in the cases

[1:58:20] over there?

[1:58:20] And she has 16 plugs there to do any updating, making some machines, keeping lock up in there.

[1:58:25] She still can jump down here to her account or wherever she wants to because she's the

[1:58:31] election's coordinator.

[1:58:32] Let her decide where she needs to place what would offer her that room.

[1:58:36] She needs access to that room better, so then going through her front office, she can put

[1:58:41] one door into that room and that would send her that hallway.

[1:58:45] That's right.

[1:58:46] In that hallway.

[1:58:47] And you would add one door would be the expense of change it like the rest of them.

[1:58:50] And she could have more room to function to be able to put some stuff in her store.

[1:58:54] I mean, I sure don't want to prolong this about any means, but I would like to speak

[1:59:00] to Casey, you know, before I made a decision, you know,

[1:59:08] and like I said, I don't want to

[1:59:10] pull it in here and put it on the spot, but I would like myself to go speak to her and

[1:59:15] see what she thought of that idea, if she thought that would be good, or if she

[1:59:20] maybe has another idea.

[1:59:22] That's my, you know, that's where I'm at on it.

[1:59:24] I'm not against it at all but I would like to discuss with her first to see if

[1:59:31] that's an idea she would like to go forward with and that's fine with me.

[1:59:36] Commissioner Wilbanks. I think what I see in all the offices that I've kind of

[1:59:42] been in in the annex and then as today is we're utilizing square footage the

[1:59:47] best we can other than those two areas. And those are, I think they're under

[1:59:55] utilized. There's a lot of square footage there that's not being

[2:00:00] Used.

[2:00:02] I think a lot of the equipment is is antiquated and I don't I don't have

[2:00:08] confidence that if something happened right now that that thing would be

[2:00:12] operational within two weeks. I don't think it'd be operational today. I don't.

[2:00:21] And I

[2:00:22] feel like we need to utilize the square footage at hand that we have with

[2:00:30] minimizing any

[2:00:34] type of workflow you know destruction or any of that stuff of

[2:00:38] workflow and I think that would be the easiest route is she's already got two

[2:00:43] two doors that go into that office from her elections office right now and those

[2:00:49] poor girls are crammed in there they're in a nine foot by 20 26 foot room

[2:00:58] which is crazy when we have all of that space that I don't feel like is being

[2:01:05] utilized to its capacity and so I would I would like to look at that to see if we

[2:01:12] can if we can utilize the square footage that we've got I would have to

[2:01:17] assume that's exactly what happened with our district clerk and why she wanted to

[2:01:21] move into that other office is because she was out of space so it was let her

[2:01:29] move into another office to gain some more space but the elections is

[2:01:35] absolutely out of space and I don't

[2:01:42] you know going back to that other building

[2:01:45] on looking at clear span you know if that was a clear span building is to

[2:01:48] see what all we could utilize it because in its current layout was no

[2:01:52] good it was no good it just wasn't it was it's not a it's not designed

[2:01:59] efficiently for the work that we do today maybe it was 40 years ago it was

[2:02:05] designed for that but not today and I feel like the same thing on this

[2:02:11] section of the annex is it's not being utilized to its full capacity of what

[2:02:16] this beautiful building can be and what it can do and what it can hold but I

[2:02:21] I think if you ask Casey what she wants to do,

[2:02:23] she's got a hard to go.

[2:02:24] She's going to say, I'm just leaving a lot of wood down here.

[2:02:27] It don't matter.

[2:02:27] So that just is the case.

[2:02:28] She's going to say that because you don't

[2:02:29] have to use any other pressure or trouble to come with it.

[2:02:32] That's exactly right.

[2:02:33] That's why I think it has to be an executive decision upon us.

[2:02:36] Because her statement to me is whatever y'all say is good.

[2:02:38] She doesn't want to come for it.

[2:02:40] She just is the pressure that she don't want.

[2:02:43] But I see that that room could be utilized by her

[2:02:46] quite a bit more.

[2:02:48] And then they're more just getting used now.

[2:02:52] Well, that's not going to keep her from having to use 103B.

[2:02:55] She could still have access to it and just would open us up if we needed to.

[2:03:00] For the major openings as you state for that whole area, because you do your presentation,

[2:03:05] you talked about that whole area needs to be opened up for district court or Truman for everybody.

[2:03:11] So long as she had that closet, whatever she used, and if she brought herself in for countdown, how she won't.

[2:03:16] She can bring her countdown to the back of that oven.

[2:03:19] Because the countdown just comes in one night, and what it does is you can come out of that shorter ramp and go right through the other end of the leather.

[2:03:26] It's not going to be set up to be used until the emergency pops up.

[2:03:29] That'd be the only time in the first emergency if we didn't have no electricity.

[2:03:33] Well, Judge, I don't know how to rest of the court feeling.

[2:03:36] I do know that we'll keep rooming back and forth over this, and I do know we, Joe, his Commissioner Hill is expressed his concern and I want to speak with Mr. Brown.

[2:03:46] But I understand that she, from my perspective, she's not going to want the drama, she wants

[2:03:54] to be drama free, she just want to do a job and go on.

[2:03:57] I think we as a court have realized that she do have some issues and we need to address

[2:04:02] those issues.

[2:04:02] I think that was the start of the conversation.

[2:04:05] So Judge, if you allow me to make a motion, if it dies for lack of motion, at least

[2:04:10] with some action taken and I would like to present if you call for sir okay but I

[2:04:21] like it I'd like her to have an option to say yeah your name though well in that

[2:04:27] motion I would make sure after you presented she could use it off to the

[2:04:31] way she needed you're gonna have to make the motion because it doesn't say

[2:04:35] what that motion I know that yes sir so if you want to state a motion then

[2:04:40] with

[2:04:44] what you your idea is or whatever and I just like whatever your motion is

[2:04:50] is to give her an option to say this isn't gonna work and I want to stay in

[2:04:55] 103B. She's gonna be pushed to be sold on which I

[2:04:58] so I mean you do whatever you want to do with that. So I'm gonna make this motion.

[2:05:02] I don't want to make this motion. Just let me make this motion. I don't mind I'm not

[2:05:06] seeing you but you always have the conclusions and nothing to do with you.

[2:05:10] I'm just saying in her mind it's just gonna be important about making the

[2:05:15] Here's a motion that I want to make and I want to put forth is I'll put forth a

[2:05:18] motion that the Commissioners Court in this county allow the emergency command

[2:05:26] center front portion I don't know what the call of that is what's what is the

[2:05:33] rig terminology great terminology that we allow our election

[2:05:42] administrator to occupy the emergency command center operation room and any

[2:05:52] equipment or anything needed to do the commands or the duties of the emergency

[2:05:57] management operations go to the room behind it called EOC. That's not the EOC in

[2:06:05] the back. Every time at the big room. Every time at the big side with the tables

[2:06:11] and the two monitors and all of it.

[2:06:14] That's emergency management's offices in Workspace.

[2:06:18] They're going to their Workspace.

[2:06:19] So we'll say consolidated down to their dispatch to Workspace.

[2:06:23] Here you go.

[2:06:24] And I'll put that in the form of motion, Your Honor.

[2:06:26] And in that motion, is it, that Casey agrees that?

[2:06:30] No, in that motion, I'll put it

[2:06:32] that she has the right to use that offices

[2:06:34] to the best of her ability

[2:06:35] to suit the election administration

[2:06:38] side of Anderson County.

[2:06:40] And if she still needs to use the storage room of 103B, she can use that storage room.

[2:06:45] And when it comes down to countdowns or whatever she still wants to go into here and do countdowns, however she wants.

[2:06:52] We're just allowing her to have more space because she has incorporated more machines at this time.

[2:06:58] But she still needs to be able to use 103B.

[2:07:00] She's going to be able to use both of them.

[2:07:01] She needs it any time.

[2:07:03] Yes, sir. She's going to be able to have both of them.

[2:07:04] She's got access to both rooms now.

[2:07:06] Are these other ones, like she said, that she was going to do that anyway?

[2:07:09] Yes, she has access to both rooms, but she thought all year she could make that comment center now as primary use for her use at all

[2:07:16] Times the way she wanted now we're going to designate that to her if this vote is passed

[2:07:21] Okay, so just a yo, sir. Yes, sir

[2:07:25] And that will be no adjustments to JP to to

[2:07:29] Moving Christina name offices. We won't move any officers at this moment. That's right

[2:07:34] Not to let your motion. Yes, sir. Is there a second second

[2:07:41] All in favor say aye.

[2:07:43] Aye.

[2:07:44] Aye.

[2:07:45] No.

[2:07:48] So motion passes.

[2:07:50] I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

[2:07:52] So moved.

[2:07:53] Motion by Commissioner Memms.

[2:07:54] Do I have a second?

[2:07:55] Second.

[2:07:55] Second by who?

[2:07:57] Who will make?

[2:07:58] Commissioner Hill.

[2:08:00] All in favor say aye.

[2:08:02] Aye.

[2:08:02] All opposed?

[2:08:03] So ordered.

[2:08:04] Thank you very much for watching this video and I'll see you in the next video.

Apr 21, 2025 Commissioners Court

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