[1:14] You give me one chance. >> All right. Got 7 p.m. Tuesday, May 5th,

[1:17] 2026. We'll call to order a regular city council meeting the city of Algra. We'll

[1:22] start with our pledge of allegiance.

[1:26] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[1:31] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[1:37] justice for all.

[1:42] » I have a roll call, please. >> John Sanford here.

[1:45] » John Papovich here. >> Dan Hinrich here. Joe War.

[1:48] » Jane Barber. Okay. >> We have all members with acceptance of

[1:52] Jane tonight. um our minutes from our previous regular

[1:58] city council meeting April 7th, 2026. And we also had our special city council

[2:02] meeting on April 16th, 2026. I think we can do one motion to accept those

[2:07] minutes. >> We have a motion and support. All in

[2:12] favor? I opposed. Motion carried.

[2:18] Uh next item on our agenda is setting our agenda. So we'll entertain a motion

[2:22] to accept the agenda. >> I'll make that motion with the

[2:26] correction correction of the 9 second by 9.49.

[2:32] » Okay, >> we have support. Okay, we have a motion

[2:36] and support. All those in favor? >> I opposed.

[2:41] Motion carried. And moving on then to item number six on

[2:46] our agenda, citizens comments.

[2:50] We have Colton here for 41 representing 41 wants to talk to us about a little

[2:55] project they're planning for Fourth of July weekend. Go ahead, Colton.

[2:58] » Uh so July 3rd, uh Chris Redburn with the Redburn band. Uh we got a hold of

[3:03] him yesterday. I spoke with them and we'd like to do kind of a small venue

[3:09] concert. I shouldn't say small, it's going to be uh we're the last time he

[3:13] played it was when Bug Shots was still here. and he said that he was with

[3:16] Saving Able and they pulled about 600 people into the city and just being at

[3:21] the um holiday weekend and everything, I

[3:25] thought it'd be a good thing to do. Um me and Megan um we spoke a little bit

[3:29] more uh this morning about like kind of a little bit more details. Like I said,

[3:33] it's this is all brand new, so everything's kind of out in the open

[3:36] that we were going to charge like $5 to get in. We're going to have the whole

[3:41] sectioned off area on that um map that I g kind of gave you guys. Um

[3:47] » the little uh yellow box there right at the top corner or top left corner. Uh

[3:54] that be kind of where we set the band. We talked to um I'm sorry I don't

[3:58] remember the gentleman's name uh that owns the funeral home. Yeah, he gave us

[4:03] uh permission to be able to use that and the parking lot there. Um the orange uh

[4:09] lines there would be where the fence would be going. We'd have a few

[4:13] different entrances. Uh obviously we would have to have um security people

[4:18] checking IDs and stuff like that, especially if we're plan on bringing 600

[4:21] people in there. Um I'd like to get some form of security, you know, just kind of

[4:26] make sure people aren't walking off without call, stuff like that. Keep

[4:29] everybody safe. Um a few different entrances to be able to

[4:33] get in with all checkpoints and stuff. Uh the green lines right there. I talked

[4:37] with uh Angiga and with Sky at uh Stormy's there uh for additional parking

[4:44] and they just they told me that they're all good to go with it just as long as

[4:48] their insurance companies allows it just with the alcohol sales and stuff like

[4:51] that. They don't want to be held liable if somebody drives and gets hurt. Um

[4:56] they know that uh we'll possibly have to pull a um an insurance umbrella for that

[5:03] for that day. uh to kind of keep us more liable and just kind of keep everybody

[5:08] covered just in case. Um yeah, uh I want to also want to make

[5:15] sure that you guys understand that uh we will take responsibility on the cleanup

[5:19] of all those places, especially on the streets and everything. If anybody's

[5:23] like parked on the street, uh we'll take full responsibility on cleanup. Um

[5:30] there's a couple other things that I can't remember off the top of my head.

[5:33] uh everything that I kind of wanted to say. But if you guys have any questions

[5:36] for me, I'll answer them to the best of my ability, but like I did say like this

[5:40] is like brand new and like we just uh really want to be able to pull the

[5:43] permits and uh make sure that we're Oh, that was the other thing. Um we wanted

[5:48] to do this at night. Uh obviously with the noise ordinance, I believe that it

[5:52] was it's 11 o'clock quiet hour. Uh we'd be done by 11 o'clock and everything so

[5:57] that way we're not making anybody mad. Um, and yeah, so if you guys have any

[6:02] questions for me, I'll try to answer them with the best of my ability.

[6:06] » The last time they were here was at the alley. Sean had them here.

[6:09] » Okay. >> Where was it, Joe?

[6:12] » At the alley >> when Sean was running that as a venue.

[6:16] » Wasn't that mug shots? I thought that was the name of the I thought that was

[6:18] the name of the alley. >> Yeah,

[6:20] » I thought that was the name of the alley, but yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[6:24] Well, one thing, uh, but I don't know, uh, where, um, Mission Electric Control

[6:31] is going to be with it. Uh, I they will probably ask us for a resolution. So,

[6:36] you making a presentation tonight is great. One thing I would recommend is

[6:40] completely closing off any entrance to US23.

[6:46] Um, >> oh, I

[6:48] » you know, you're showing on your drawing that you have, you know, your driveways

[6:51] open. If you don't need your driveways, I would completely close that off so

[6:54] nobody could stumble, walk out, come in through US23. That's just a

[6:59] recommendation. >> Pedestrian pedestrian walkway.

[7:02] » That makes sense. And like I said, it was just a quick drawing.

[7:05] » Yeah. >> Processes, you know,

[7:07] » but yeah, that makes complete sense. Um, one other thing I'm so sorry. um the old

[7:13] liquor store that's there. Megan has mentioned that she would like to try and

[7:16] get that ripped down and cleaned up before the concert on the 3rd of July.

[7:21] Um if that does happen, I would assume that we would probably want to move the

[7:26] band to probably right up against the building there where that blue dot is.

[7:31] Um and face out. Um, just that's a big if because I know that that's a that's a

[7:38] that's a project and so getting that cleaned up and be able to people to be

[7:41] able to walk on that with with safety and everything that you guys own own

[7:46] that building now of course. Yeah. >> Yeah. You needed asbestous abatement on

[7:51] that that >> take a while.

[7:53] » Yeah. You're two months out. It would be pushing it to even get that paper taken

[7:58] care of. >> Okay. I'll tell Megan that I like I no

[8:03] idea on all the the inning outs and all the the red tape that I would be very in

[8:09] support of that but it's just it it takes time to go through all the red

[8:13] tape right >> yeah

[8:18] I guess do you think that's an I guess overflow parking do you think that's

[8:22] enough parking with those two locations that's the big thing that stands out to

[8:26] me you're talking about several hundred people

[8:28] » just in Megan's uh Megan cousin as well.

[8:33] » Yeah. So, I think so. You know, uh they said they did 600 people, but that was

[8:39] with a bigger band than they were. Um I would assume that we're probably going

[8:44] to do match that with the size of IG's parking lot. Um

[8:50] and then uh oh, we also talked about doing possibly shuttles uh from the

[8:56] hotels as well. uh whoever stay at the hotel getting uh shuttles. Chris Redburn

[9:01] said that he has a 24 fashioner bus that we could use. I know um

[9:06] oh my gosh, Dan over at Big Ben Campground. I was going to see if I

[9:10] could talk with him about possibly that kind of stuff as well and maybe trying

[9:14] to facilitate a little bit more of that so we're not congesting too much in

[9:18] town. I don't know, like I said, I don't know like the ins and outs of

[9:20] everything. I'm, you know, I'm trying my best here with the day's notice.

[9:27] The the other recommendation I'd make and I don't know if council would allow

[9:32] it or we'd have to do it, but uh closing off

[9:36] uh Meno from US23 to

[9:41] Michigan Avenue or a portion of it. I guess I'd be in support of that. What

[9:47] um you're talking about an evening type concert, right? So you're not talking

[9:51] about it be all day on the third, right? It' be probably from 6:00 p.m.

[9:55] » Yeah. I was thinking like, you know, kind of people start showing up around

[9:58] 5, six o'clock because we're going to be open throughout the day.

[10:02] » And uh the thought process is I I told Megan yesterday, I'm not dealing with

[10:07] liquor. I said beer, wine, selzers, that kind of thing in burger in uh beer

[10:12] barrels outside. We'll sell and do cash only kind of thing. Um I just don't want

[10:17] to deal with liquor shots, people taking shots and stuff like that. That's when

[10:20] that's a cause for disaster in itself. Um, and then, uh, before all this

[10:25] happens to, um, I want to get make sure that the whole staff is TAM certified,

[10:29] which is techniques of alcohol management, um, certified. It's one of

[10:32] the certifications that all managers basically have to have at a at a bar.

[10:37] Um, and it just and it helps the more people that have it in a restaurant, the

[10:41] the smarter we are. So, I just want to make sure that everybody that's going to

[10:44] be serving or or not, make sure that they're all TAM certified so that way we

[10:48] can kind of call it make sure that we're cutting people off and, you know, I just

[10:52] I I want this to be more of a family event. I know that Chris is more of a

[10:56] rock band, so it's a little bit out there, but uh I just, you know, I don't

[11:00] want a bunch of swearing and stuff like that. That's one big conversation that I

[11:03] had.

[11:07] Yeah, I think that would be a good idea to close Meno at least the block or half

[11:12] the half to the block there. Um, let people freely cross

[11:19] pedestrian wise to get their vehicles and stuff. And if the IG is going to

[11:23] participate parking, then they could use the Michigan Avenue

[11:27] exit out of that parking lot rather than coming out on knock.

[11:32] I think that would be much safer of event. Yeah, there no business that'd be

[11:37] affected. Um, you know, we talked to uh Laura Sassy Scissor and uh what's going

[11:44] on in that building? And >> you had conversation with Laura?

[11:48] » I I haven't I don't know Laura and it was I just started doing this today. I

[11:53] spoke with the two of them and then I was like, "Oh, shoot. I should probably

[11:55] do that, too." So, that was kind of on my agenda for tomorrow.

[11:58] » Yeah. She's going to be dead right. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[12:05] Maybe you could have a specific area set up for crossing to that parking lot if

[12:10] » you definitely could, you know, like restaurant.

[12:12] » Yeah. >> Oh, with some of the fishing tournaments

[12:17] you guys have had crossing guards to help people get across, right?

[12:22] » Yes. Yeah. >> That's just

[12:26] remember this is Friday. I know it's going to be as busy as it gets probably

[12:30] right about that time. So >> yeah, I would be a little concerned of

[12:34] anything happen on US 23. >> I think like I say keeping people if you

[12:40] can with some barriers behind the sidewalk, right? You know that probably

[12:44] be about as good as it's going to get,

[12:48] right? having a barrier between the roadway and

[12:53] your people or you know some physical separation

[12:57] be a good idea.

[13:02] What kind of action would it take from us to facilitate this other than closing

[13:07] that street? >> Um are there any permits involved that

[13:13] we need to sign off on or anything like that? I tried to find something on a

[13:16] special event uh permit and we don't really have anything. We have two

[13:22] residents that are near and and uh the uh the assisted living facility. Um the

[13:30] two residents I'd be concerned and making sure that they know what's going

[13:33] on. At least let's hear their opinion on it.

[13:38] » And that's something I can get with Colton to do.

[13:43] I'd like to at least like I said hear their concern.

[13:49] » They go right in the backyard there. And then

[13:53] » would anyone live in the old Distler um flower shop there?

[13:58] » No. That's a company. >> What?

[14:03] » Hills barber shop. >> Okay. Whatever generation you're from,

[14:06] right? I I still call Von Hill. I know. I do too. At times. Yeah.

[14:16] Um, you know, they're going to have this.

[14:21] Have you talked to the people on Michigan Avenue that live right by us?

[14:24] » That's what he just said. >> Yeah.

[14:27] » Oh, I gently live right there now.

[14:32] » You said you have talked to him. >> I have not.

[14:34] » Oh, okay. >> This is all kind of on my agenda

[14:37] tomorrow. >> All right. To make sure that I go and

[14:39] kind of talk with everybody. I just didn't know. Like I said, this is first

[14:42] time kind of going about setting something like this up in a smaller

[14:46] town. So, like going around like I just I don't know the ins and outs. Um I, you

[14:50] know, I definitely want to let everybody know what's going on. You know, if the

[14:53] you know, obviously the uh the two neighbors right behind us. Uh I know one

[14:58] of them is a little bit newer. I I haven't met any of them yet, but you

[15:01] know, offering them something, you know, just to you know, keep peace. You know,

[15:06] definitely don't want to, you know, snip on anybody's

[15:08] » free meals for two months or something like that.

[15:11] meals for two lunch. >> Yeah, there we go.

[15:17] » Catering right out of out of their over that fence right there. There you go.

[15:26] » Any other discussion or anything want to bring up

[15:31] proposal or something ready for us to act on next meeting then? Is that the

[15:35] thought? >> Um, really we got to see what the state

[15:38] does to it. I mean, if he pulls together then we would just might have to get

[15:44] together have something next meeting. Yeah. But I don't think we need to put

[15:48] together a public hearing. >> We don't do that after the resolution

[15:51] for temporary like for like these other events like car show for example. We

[15:57] don't >> street closing.

[15:59] » Yeah. with street closing and I don't know if uh with the area they're

[16:03] covering if I don't know what the liquid control commission is going to ask for

[16:08] like sometimes they ask for a resolution that we they extend or change their

[16:12] liquor permit

[16:17] » outside sales and stuff through

[16:22] because the July meeting regular meeting is not until

[16:34] Yeah, let us definitely support the project.

[16:40] » It's recorded. It's >> bring a proposal next meeting for you

[16:43] guys. Let you know what I got with Lick Commission and everything. Um, do I need

[16:49] it? Would I need to contact the uh the internet police about the road? I that

[16:55] one I don't understand. >> Oh, that would be that would be city

[16:58] then we'd run our police department there.

[17:00] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[17:02] » So just think of what's going on.

[17:07] » Yeah. D at least three or four days ahead so he can have proper

[17:13] » especially the liquor control commission needs some kind.

[17:16] » That's a pretty standard form. Uh basically what they're just going to

[17:19] tell me like I was saying is it's got to be fenced in. I have to make sure that

[17:23] uh we have security making sure that people aren't walking in and out of the

[17:27] area. Um it it's actually quite simple to do

[17:31] that. Uh I know for the USPG or Yeah, that's what

[17:38] we had to do. Yeah, it was basically just because it's

[17:43] all on our property and we're not doing it throughout the city. So, we're don't

[17:47] we don't have to worry about that. We just have to make sure that our

[17:49] insurance lines extend to the parking lots and then the fence around the area

[17:55] that people will be consuming alcohol is basically really what they're going to

[17:59] tell me. And then just whatever the I think it's like a $75 fee is really all

[18:04] it is and just how and then the date the duration that they're going to ask for.

[18:08] So every everyone is going to be contained to this orange area that you

[18:12] got there. Okay. Then the IG is just parking, right?

[18:22] get scrubby to let them park. >> I'm sure all

[18:26] I mean they pretty much all the strong businesses would be support of that.

[18:30] » Yeah, >> they won't want you to pay 10 bucks or

[18:33] something for parking in their lot. >> That's kind of what I was thinking. If

[18:36] they want to like by all means like that that's literally what I was thinking. If

[18:39] they want to charge parking by all means like I have no issue like we would have

[18:43] no issue with that. they start their parking lot and like you know I can't

[18:46] really tell what to do but I would hope that they would try to profit a little

[18:50] bit off that. Um you know with bees you know I would with bees I I think that as

[18:56] much as she can get out there and put in a couple signages for the breakfast for

[19:00] the following day for 4th of July. I think that that'll bring in a lot with

[19:04] them. And then um I know like if IGA wants to do like popcorn and stuff for

[19:10] so for people to bring over because we had the conversation that I just don't

[19:14] think that being open for service with 600 people is a wise decision because

[19:21] I'm a group. I'm not um and yeah I think that the inside is

[19:26] just going to kind of be like for the band and people and it's just going to

[19:29] be outside event. We're just going to do everything straight outside beer,

[19:33] liquor, and you know, we'll have wristbands for people over 21. U and I

[19:39] just want to make sure this is as safe as possible. This is a small town. You

[19:42] know, this isn't this isn't Bay City like I'm used to because you know, I

[19:45] used to work like the wine walk down there. This isn't that. And I don't want

[19:48] it to be that. You know, I want this to be

[19:50] » more like I said, family oriented and just, you know, right for the town. So,

[19:58] great. Thanks. Look forward to uh June some

[20:02] more information. >> Is it the I'm assum it's first Monday of

[20:05] uh >> Tuesday.

[20:12] » One thing we should put on our agenda is when the next meeting is looks like the

[20:16] second. >> Yeah, we didn't change it or nothing.

[20:24] » Excellent. >> All right.

[20:27] » Thanks, Holden. Um, any assistance, comments, round one. We got round two

[20:32] coming up later if you stick around for the whole feature here.

[20:37] » Okay, moving on then to number seven on our

[20:42] agenda, our city police chief report.

[20:49] Not with us this evening. know he had a prior engagement

[20:54] and uh in front of you you see his report of what's happening which is the

[20:59] same again nothing uh it's a good thing nothing exciting which is great

[21:05] » your our full-time officer is uh on Main

[21:10] Street right now so I don't know if he's been catching anybody but the sign Oh

[21:16] yeah All

[21:21] right. Have any comments for our chief? Then we can

[21:31] All right. Uh then old business. Don't have any old

[21:36] business tonight. Our agenda, so we'll move on to new business. First item is

[21:41] 9.1. Internet County foreclosure list. The proposure list is in your packet.

[21:48] There are six properties under there. Six. One, two, three, four, five

[21:55] properties. >> So, we've got three boat slips.

[21:58] » Three boat slips. >> We're probably not interested in any,

[22:01] right? >> We're not interested in anything.

[22:02] » Mayor's Mayor's boat slip. No. >> Okay. Sleepy Oaks.

[22:08] Obviously, we're not interested in that either, right? And then what is South

[22:11] Mason? Is that an actual >> the vacant? It's the vacant property is

[22:15] 3 and a half acres that's funny shaped that surrounds Pioneer Village.

[22:21] » Oh, okay. >> It's kind of extends out to US23 with a

[22:25] finger. It's got a section behind Per Village. It's got a small section on

[22:31] Main Street and then little tab going out to main guy that bought the big

[22:38] property, you know, by like the lumber yard and stuff like that. I wonder if

[22:41] he'd be interested in that. You know, I don't know if Steve

[22:47] » Yeah. >> And it is in the old uh or Scott. I

[22:51] mean, it'd be nice if Scott just consolidated it. All right.

[22:54] » He would be the he would be the one you think would do the most uh good, but I'm

[22:59] sure when he sees the sign up, he'll not interested in any of them that I can

[23:05] see. So, we just need a motion that we're not interested. Let the county

[23:09] proceed and send them to auction.

[23:15] We have a motion and support. All those in favor? I

[23:19] » opposed. Motion carried. We're turning down our

[23:23] interest in those properties. Okay. Item 9.2 on our agenda is um our

[23:31] property assessing. Looks like we have a contract renewal.

[23:36] This would be a renewal with um Brandon, right? So,

[23:45] » yeah. I don't know. Uh I guess

[23:50] what is this I guess compared price-wise to what we he's just been doing in uh

[23:55] Yeah, he's been very fair, you know, cost of living increases and um does a

[24:01] great job for us. I mean, he's here that the residents can talk to him and uh

[24:06] he's available and conscientious and um recommendation is just give another

[24:12] three-year contract. Uh even is over the three years it's uh um cost of living or

[24:18] 5% which which is less over the next uh three years.

[24:25] » Um does he want to update any of these typos in here?

[24:28] » No, those are the contract after contract. Oh,

[24:34] » it says uh 90 days but then 60 in parentheses. So I

[24:41] think you take the value in parenthesis.

[24:47] » Yes.

[24:52] » Yeah, he's got that on the computer. I can mention it.

[24:56] » It's another one. I think it's shitty stand this year. Oh,

[25:01] » we need to adopt this with corrections.

[25:09] » Any discussion on our city assessor agreement?

[25:23] I think so.

[25:28] I mean, he'd been our assessor now for a while, but it seems to be working good

[25:32] with five years. Yeah, >> five or six years. Just him, right? As

[25:36] Sunrise or >> just just him? He he may have off and

[25:41] on. He does have a an office assist or somebody to track down. I don't think

[25:47] his he had someone for a while, his sister for a while, but I don't think

[25:50] she's working with him. >> But it's been sunrise. It's been for

[25:55] » It's been branded. Yeah. He changed his name a couple years ago.

[26:01] » We'll entertain a motion to um

[26:06] accept this contract with the minor corrections.

[26:11] » I'll make that motion. >> Okay.

[26:13] » We have motion and support. All those in favor?

[26:17] » I opposed. Motion carried. Next item on our agenda

[26:23] 9.3 is our miscellaneous charges increase

[26:29] which has to do with um some of our DPW

[26:35] uh type charges. >> Right. We've uh uh

[26:40] we've been at least 11 years 12 years with the same rates on some water

[26:46] services that they're not big. We don't have a lot of emergency

[26:51] turnoffs with we don't have a lot of uh uh impact

[26:56] fees or tap fees but we are lagging that we have not increased them in in 11

[27:03] years and uh Levon was pretty proficient in going

[27:07] through and saying we should be doing something here and and I agreed. Um

[27:15] our our regular uh turn on turn off fee is $35. Emergency after hours. That's

[27:20] the big one. We're only charging $55. We roughly have cost us 150 bucks to

[27:26] send the guys out for an emergency shut off. So, we're we're getting behind on

[27:31] that. >> To cover your wages or something. Is

[27:33] that what you had in mind? Or >> Well, we want to I did a recommendation

[27:36] up there and the two of the other ones, Dan, are there our water tap in fee and

[27:40] our sewer tap in fee. Those aren't just the costs of tapping in. And those are

[27:45] the they were supposed to be impact fees on our system. Our system was put in

[27:51] years ago to service a lot of different people. And

[27:58] the impact fees they they the money goes into the water

[28:03] funds to and the sewer funds, not just what it cost to build years ago, but

[28:08] when we have to maintain it and keep it up. So, those are the impact fees. And

[28:13] and the way we're set up now, we're charging $2,400 for water, $1,800

[28:18] for for sewer. If someone comes in and wants to hook into water, we charge

[28:26] them $2,400. If it comes out to 20 if the if the labor the equipment charge,

[28:33] the materials comes out to 23.99, we've only made a dollar on it for our

[28:39] impact fee. If it comes out over 2400, we charge in the overage. So, we have

[28:44] zero. >> We do charge them an overage

[28:46] » if it if it costs more than 2400. Like they might have to uh order underneath

[28:51] the road or something of that sort. Um so on these fees,

[28:58] uh had it on my notes. What I'm recommending

[29:04] is we take our regular water turn off from $35 to $50.

[29:09] our emergency turn off from 55 to 150 which will cover our costs of our DPW

[29:16] going out. I want to keep our water and sewer tap

[29:21] fees the same but we would add on our labor equipment

[29:28] materials or supplies to tap in. So, we would be able to put that $2400 or that

[29:34] $1,800 depending water sewer into our water and sewer fund.

[29:39] » Yeah. You don't have any idea how much the extra equipment is or nothing?

[29:46] » That's going to vary on where they can tap in and what supplies

[29:52] they supply. I know. I know that's a real loose answer, but I don't know.

[29:56] Levon, you might be able to give a better example of what kind of bills

[29:59] we've have in there. >> Well, it seems like the 24 and 18 if

[30:03] it's on the the right side of the road, that covers all of our costs. They do

[30:09] abore, it's always an additional cost. So

[30:13] you're probably talking 4,800 for water tap and 3,600 for

[30:19] » Yeah, >> what you're saying?

[30:23] » That would just be if the board then you'd add on extra amount of dollars and

[30:27] » Yeah. Well, that seems fair. >> We don't have many vacant lots left.

[30:32] » No, that don't have water and sewer. >> Uh and uh that don't have water that

[30:37] aren't hooked up. And uh um you know the cost the cost of having this service you

[30:44] know what it cost to put in a well and septic right now is outrageous also.

[30:49] » But this is some place that we have if we would have been slowly

[30:54] having the increments on it. It would be you know been different and also the

[30:58] water and government that's a onetime charge that's once they paid it's there

[31:02] » forever.

[31:06] There's nothing wrong with what you're, you know, what you're proposing. Just

[31:09] long as we're being fair to, we're fair. We're not trying to gouge people is what

[31:13] I'm getting at. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that.

[31:19] We're not talking about a huge increase right now. It's not like we're tripling

[31:22] or doubling. So, >> doubling.

[31:25] » What's that? >> You're doubling

[31:27] » with with the extra >> We could be.

[31:30] » We could be. >> Depends. It depends on the situation. If

[31:33] it's boring, it's your getting sort of tripling,

[31:36] » right? >> Yeah. It'll still be boring because you

[31:39] still have your initial cost plus your boring costs.

[31:42] » Plus the $2,400 fee. >> You still have that cost on top of the

[31:46] 24, >> right? $2,400 just flat fee, which goes

[31:51] for what? >> It goes to our fund to maintain our

[31:56] equipment and theoretically what it costs to build the equipment.

[32:02] also what our sewer fees are supposed to be doing,

[32:06] » right? Struggle with the additional cost for

[32:10] building in the city. Building a new house in the city were adding to making

[32:16] that more expensive. I'm sort of struggling this whole

[32:21] process

[32:27] as it uh maybe making people not want to come into the cities. It's just another

[32:31] click of referencing. >> Yeah, just and it's not going to be

[32:34] deciding factor for them. They're either going to want to come or they're not.

[32:38] It's just another in the negative column. I

[32:44] just struggling with that. My head is all

[32:48] just verbalizing it. >> Yeah,

[32:52] I definitely get the, you know, labor equipment supplies that you have.

[32:56] » Right. Right. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. like you

[32:59] say that you're saying like the tap fee itself that that goes into the fund,

[33:03] right? That's what you're >> Yeah, the base we're already doing in

[33:06] our monthly buildings is supposed to be supposed to include enough to cover

[33:12] um depreciation and cost of repair and maintenance and stuff in our monthly

[33:17] fees. We try to structure that around that. Um and to do one or two or three

[33:23] tap tap how many taps a year did they do? I would say if we did three was a

[33:27] lot. >> We've had years we've had zero.

[33:31] » So it's it's such a small amount as far as grand

[33:38] scheme of our funds. >> It is but the theory when you theory is

[33:42] when you build a plant you build it for x number of places,

[33:47] » right? And I and so as people are coming into

[33:53] town, they have the or building they the

[33:58] benefit to hooking in is you have to help pay for the system

[34:02] » that you have >> and that's what this is that's an impact

[34:06] fee >> or a tap in fee

[34:08] » is to help pay for the existing system. >> Do you have any idea like what other

[34:13] communities are fees are? I know it didn't

[34:16] » all over the board. John, um we we are going to be on the higher end on this.

[34:21] Uh not by much. Um Tawas does a fee plus costs on top of that. Uh Standish

[34:30] um they have a flat fee. Uh Tawas

[34:36] um is a flat fee. Um I'm sorry. They're they're flat fee, 1,400 for water and

[34:43] 1,400 for sewer. Uh sewer has a $600 uh house has a $1,400 flat fee plus a

[34:54] $600 and I think it's a debt reduction fee. I don't know what that one was for

[34:58] plus the costs. >> So, like I said, we're we're we are on

[35:02] the higher end uh by a few hundred bucks, but not outrageous. The debt

[35:06] reduction would be like you were saying to pay for the existing system

[35:12] being into that bond or whatever payment but you know

[35:17] » I know that >> revisit this every year either you know

[35:19] they've gone 11 years without >> beach has got a nominal fee don't they

[35:25] » I don't even take that into consideration they got a real problem

[35:30] off the charts fees.

[35:32] » Yeah.

[35:38] » So, you're looking for a motion to have um 2400 Well, the 5150 and I think those

[35:44] are no-brainers. Um but the 2400 plus cost is what it

[35:51] amounts to and 1,800 plus cost >> is the resolution and this would be

[35:58] effective for Starting in 2027

[36:14] motion then we want to do more discussion.

[36:26] » Oh do it. I'll do it. I'll make a motion that we increase the

[36:33] regular turn on off rate to the 50 emergency after hours to 150 water tap

[36:39] in fee to 2400 as a

[36:44] 2400 plus cost and sewer tap fee at 1,800 plus

[36:52] those are cost as passed on um actual costs.

[37:00] If we hire them

[37:05] support we have a motion and support. All those in favor I

[37:12] » opposed. Motion carried. Moving on to item 9.4

[37:17] four um which is accepting the bid for the M DOT grant for the

[37:25] paving of East and West Michigan, Albert Street, Water Street and Sageno Street,

[37:31] Sageno Street that neighborhood street water street

[37:39] and >> yeah, you got it. Uh we uh went over

[37:46] bids on the ting. We had three uh three different um companies uh submit

[37:55] bids and for the project uh

[38:01] and

[38:05] paving company which better here is uh bowling paving uh was a low bidder.

[38:14] Uh the bids did come in quite a bit less than what the original engineers

[38:20] estimate was. Our M do grant will pay for half of the project

[38:28] and uh half the project uh the grant would be for

[38:33] $164,333.

[38:37] And we have our resolution. We have well it's kind of a two-part the uh

[38:41] resolution to um approve the uh low bid and uh to move

[38:48] forward with the project

[38:53] » boundaries for clarification again please

[38:55] » of what's being paid. >> Yes. Michigan Avenue from

[39:00] uh West Street all the way through past 23 down to the river,

[39:06] Water Street up to

[39:11] Sagena or Water Street and then Sagena Street back to US 23.

[39:17] » So Water Street from 23 to Sagena. Not going to

[39:22] » Michigan. Water street the whole thing. Water street the whole thing. I was

[39:26] getting I was trying to draw my map here. Sagenov. Okay. Uh up by that end

[39:30] and then uh >> Oh, the Sagen off from US 23 to Water

[39:34] Street. >> Yep. Then Ala Street.

[39:36] » And so the only thing on this side of US 23

[39:41] would be Michigan Avenue. >> Yeah. Because Franny and that's all been

[39:45] done back in last what five years probably.

[39:49] » Couple years back there. Yeah. That is that block of Sagos.

[39:55] That was last done 30 32 years ago.

[40:02] Is this a over code or a >> It's going to be

[40:10] in your curb.

[40:13] » Yeah, there's other projects going in. you know, there's a uh and there is some

[40:19] uh curb work, gutter work uh going on that

[40:23] is including a grant. What is not including the grant is we still have

[40:28] valves that we have to replace on Michigan Avenue

[40:31] where we still have some spots where the bolts rusted out and we had leaks. Those

[40:36] are not part of the grant, but they will be done and ready for the paving

[40:45] » and paving this fall. This year 27 wants to do it pretty quick. It might be done

[40:52] here. I It sounds like it it may start shortly after Memorial Day weekend.

[40:59] » You're talking about the sag on top of but then you said Boland are going to

[41:02] » Boland were bought out bought out by that company.

[41:05] » Oh, okay. I wondered why Bowen wasn't they've been doing all our they've been

[41:09] doing all our work for >> Yeah. Okay.

[41:11] » Yeah. A purchased Bowens at the end of last year. I think it was

[41:17] » M September 3rd on Minact.

[41:28] I'll make a motion that we adopt this resolution regarding the paving project

[41:33] as post support.

[41:37] » So we have a motion and support. Is this a roll call for resolution or no?

[41:41] » I can do one. Dan >> war.

[41:45] » Yes. >> John Papovich. Yes.

[41:47] » John Sanford. >> Yes.

[41:53] » Okay. Moving on from 9.4 to 9.5 then. um which is our AT&T water tower upgrades.

[42:03] » Uh we just had some major not we uh Verizon just came with some major

[42:09] upgrades on the water tower. What we look at when they do upgrades on the

[42:12] water tower is ask adding any more weight to the water tower or anything

[42:19] that's going to catch wind. And uh like I said, uh Verizon did some

[42:25] stuff last fall. AT&T came along. They want to add a few things. They're taking

[42:31] very few components off, but they want to add more stuff, but they want to add

[42:35] it. It's all in the pack here. They want to add it in the tower, not on the top

[42:41] of the water tower. At the top of the water tower, we have a ring that they

[42:45] can add stuff to because we don't want a welding on the water tower, especially

[42:48] the tank itself. So they want to place uh these antennas

[42:56] below the tank itself on the tower.

[43:03] Heath did not feel it was going to be a problem. They would have to weld some

[43:07] brackets as long as the materials prepared. They're welded, primed, and

[43:12] painted again uh properly. uh

[43:18] I wanted more guarantees than that. So I reached back out to uh Masttec which is

[43:25] handling this for AT&T and I asked him three questions. Uh the first one being

[43:30] more of a guarantee that it's not going to rust where they they weld onto the

[43:35] tank. That was the first qu. The second question was when Verizon updated the

[43:41] tank, they put more anchor bolts in. This is

[43:46] on also on AT&T's proposal. I just want to make sure that they know it's done or

[43:52] is this additional bolts and this is the first time that I've experienced where

[43:59] they're adding more equipment and not taking a lot of equipment off. So my

[44:04] third question was at what point do we charge more of a fee for adding more

[44:10] equipment onto the tower? I have not heard back from Masttec yet. So I'm

[44:15] asking to uh table this until we hear back from them.

[44:20] » This is they're proposing to do this below the water vessel on the support

[44:24] column >> sheet A3. Joe got that.

[44:28] » So they're less money.

[44:31] » Yeah. a couple years ago.

[44:35] » Um, so they're going to the support column, not to the actual water vessel.

[44:39] » Correct. >> Um, do can we

[44:43] should we entertain a independent

[44:47] structural engineer to evaluate this and add it to A&'s the cost of that to

[44:54] AT&T's cost? We did that with Verizon. We approached them and

[45:01] uh they came back as with their uh their engineering company.

[45:08] Um on and and that was more of weight and weight calculations. Um, what we

[45:14] would do is we want to see what I want to see what their guarantee is first and

[45:18] then we'd reach out to Nelson Tank who has done did the painting and the

[45:22] repairs and the other stuff on our tank and then get an idea what it cost them

[45:29] to inspect and they would hire them as their inspector and pass it on to Yes.

[45:33] But we would do Nelson tank. when it comes to structural integr Nelson last

[45:37] time and Nelson said we'd be using this company to do the weight evaluations

[45:43] anyway. So we weren't there was no benefit but when it comes to the

[45:46] painting and the welding that would be with Nelson. So

[45:52] » yeah, just so we could get some kind of independent third party evaluation so

[45:56] they're not >> That's what I was looking I wanted AT&T

[45:59] to come back and say we'll pay for your private third party. Yeah,

[46:07] I'm not opposed to it, but there should be some benefit to the city residents

[46:11] and there should be some kind of guarantee for the city residents that

[46:16] it's not going to damage our infrastructure.

[46:19] » Correct. We have the

[46:23] call on top river

[46:29] equipment. I >> This down here is not And we don't we

[46:34] don't want the support column to the tank 12 years from now that that tank to

[46:40] have structural integrity issues because of what they do to it. Just my

[46:45] » um >> yeah, that's why I said table it. I I

[46:48] recommend table until we get more information.

[46:50] » I would totally agree. And also if they're going to add a bunch more

[46:54] equipment like that, then we should re-evaluate like you said their

[46:58] multi-use trees. There's got to be some benefit to the city.

[47:03] Yeah, the previous uh things that have been happen has been updating equipped,

[47:08] you know, taking a antenna down, putting a new modern one

[47:13] up, whatever. >> This looks like it's going to add a lot

[47:17] of burden to that tower. And I I we just need to do our due diligence on

[47:22] it. Again, I would 100% agree that table.

[47:31] Okay. motion then go

[47:34] » uh were you looking for some kind of a motion on them to take

[47:38] » oh they they were looking for option >> would they ask us to present at the

[47:42] meeting and I haven't got an answer back from so I figured this might light the

[47:46] fire under getting an answer >> then I would

[47:50] » if we table it >> I'll make a motion that we table it

[47:52] until we get more information from AT&T including guarantees and of both damage

[47:59] to the tower and structural integrity of the installation.

[48:06] We have motion and support. All those in favor? I I

[48:12] motion carried. All right, we're moving on then from new

[48:16] business to our city manager report. Um,

[48:22] one thing I want to back up a little bit on on Joe, we talked about the

[48:26] miscellaneous charge increase. I just want to throw out that I really think

[48:30] this board has done a great job in their due diligence to keep the cost of our

[48:35] residents down. I don't think we've raised anything that wasn't needed for

[48:40] the future of the community. I just want to bring that up because you know last

[48:43] last month we uh we uh passed the uh uh putting the millage on to renew the

[48:48] mosquito millage. We were able >> reduce that accord. So I think we're

[48:54] doing our job back and say you're just going after the citizens. I I don't feel

[48:58] that at all. I think like I said, we do a great job.

[49:01] » Uh I just my my problem with that was I don't want to

[49:05] hand confess with cost against promoting more construction in town. You know,

[49:12] that was >> right. Yeah, understandable.

[49:16] Flip side too. We're keeping our water and sewer costs down.

[49:19] » Uh some of the lowest we are the lowest in the area. So, we we work hard at all

[49:25] that uh South Court Housing, we're getting close. Um wow, that is taking a

[49:30] long time, longer than I should, but uh real close. Hopefully, the next uh

[49:37] the next time I talk about this with the council, we're having an open house.

[49:43] Uh campground expansion, little going on the the the sites themselves. The cabins

[49:49] have been delivered. They're in. They look nice. Uh the electrical inside

[49:53] those cabins is complete. The park manager Chris, he's working on

[49:58] finishing the inside, putting the bathrooms, the little kitchenets,

[50:02] flooring and stuff in. So, uh Memorial Day is going to be a stretch to have

[50:07] them open, but they'll be into June to have those open.

[50:11] Ball fields, another one that's finally coming along. Fences going up.

[50:16] Thanks to Dan has worked hard on the storage accessory building. Uh, I think

[50:21] that's all set to go, isn't it, Dan? We got

[50:23] » Yeah, we got some uh tables coming for inside tomorrow. Supposed to be here

[50:26] from Bernard's. And uh that's pretty well it. Oh. Oh, I want to know when I

[50:33] can get that fridge.

[50:39] » I got to pick it up. It's in my city right now. I I can get it soon.

[50:43] » If you can do it. >> Yeah, I know. Talk to the boss.

[50:52] But they're uh they will be playing ball this year on the fields. If you haven't

[50:56] driven by them, they look they look >> they look fantastic. I was noticing all

[51:00] the new fencing and stuff like >> Yeah, looks real nice. uh our TIFFA

[51:05] grants. Uh we w we awarded uh Art Tiff uh property improvement grants

[51:13] total of $56,577

[51:16] to seven businesses in town. Another project I think is great. another

[51:22] program. I want to thank the TIFFA board for uh for approving that, doing the

[51:27] work on it, and coming up with it again making our community look forward and it

[51:32] look uh great moving forward for our businesses. Uh

[51:38] with grants I want to bring up today is give local day with barrier community

[51:43] foundation

[51:46] May 5th. Uh get a donation in. I don't know if it's 11 or midnight. Uh today

[51:50] you go online to Berry Community Foundation. There are four organizations

[51:55] in Arinatac County. Scroll down, you find those four. You can donate, give

[52:00] them a card. Anything from couple bucks to

[52:05] couple hundred helps. Uh all comes back to our community. Two of them are their

[52:09] Jennings Foundations for the historical society and for the uh uh um animal uh

[52:18] control. Uh the depot has one and also the internet historical site itself has

[52:25] one. So uh give local. Along with that internet community funds golf outing who

[52:30] they've been very generous to us on donations and grants. Their outing is

[52:35] May 15th. You can get together a golf team. That'd be cool to golf out to

[52:39] View. Memorial Day parade

[52:43] is May 24th. This is the 250th anniversary of our

[52:49] country. We'd like to have a great parade and um

[52:54] I guess I got his happy Mother's Day coming up. So all the mothers out there

[53:09] questions or comments for Dale.

[53:15] Okay, we'll uh move on then to item 11 on our agenda. Comments round

[53:22] two. Any citizens comments in round two.

[53:31] You're going to have to wait till June comments again.

[53:36] » All right, mayor comments 11.2. Um just uh glad to see all these projects coming

[53:42] coming to a close here hopefully soon. Right. They'll have all have a new list

[53:46] uh in front of them >> hopefully in a couple months here.

[53:49] Right. >> Starting September list.

[53:55] » Looking forward to summer obviously. I see our banners are all up it looks

[53:59] like. So starting to look great. >> Yeah.

[54:02] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Our 250th anniversary banner.

[54:06] » Oh, that's right. >> Coming in. They should be here first of

[54:09] next week. >> Okay.

[54:11] Right. That's all I had for this evening.

[54:15] Moving on to 113. Council members John

[54:22] say

[54:26] they knew under the sun. >> Did you go to a county meeting?

[54:28] » I didn't go to uh last Tuesday. My by u company.

[54:37] » You don't have to have an excuse. You just didn't go.

[54:40] Well, I won't I don't norm normally in the summer I wouldn't go because I play

[54:44] a Tuesday league. >> I could have gone except at a house full

[54:48] of people. You know that is >> okay. You got to take care of your

[54:51] relatives, John. >> I see that.

[55:01] » Thanks, John. Joe

[55:07] on what a job the city crew is doing. Um yeah, and as you can see by the list of

[55:12] stuff on Dale's list, he does a phenomenal job, especially research and

[55:16] all this. So appreciate all that kind of work. There's a lot goes into everything

[55:22] there. People don't realize how many hours you spend on each little topic. Um

[55:27] the the houses are looking good in the north quarter. The ball diamonds are

[55:32] looking fantastic. Um, I haven't been over the park since it was so wet over

[55:37] there, so I haven't seen the latest and greatest, but it looks right. All the

[55:41] projects that are moving forward in the city are just it's pretty cool. We're in

[55:46] everything is positive motion, which is just awesome.

[55:52] That's it. >> Thank you. Thanks, Joe. Dan,

[55:56] » no, I just kind of reiterate what Joe said. It's just things are coming

[56:01] together. It looks nice. I've been focusing on the ball is more, but I

[56:05] usually go by the building the houses there. They're getting finished. So, we

[56:09] just need somebody to buy them. >> That's all I got, John.

[56:14] » All right. Thanks, Dan. Moving on then from comments to item 12 on our agenda.

[56:19] Payment of bills. Motion we pay the bills.

[56:24] » Support that. >> We have a motion and support. All those

[56:27] in favor? I opposed. Motion carried. Item number 13, approval

[56:34] of our financial statements. Move we approve the financial statement.

[56:40] We >> have a motion and support. All those in

[56:42] favor? I >> I opposed.

[56:46] Motion carried. Our final item on our agenda for this evening is adjournment.

[56:52] » The motion bejured. >> Was that a roll?

[56:55] » Yeah. We have a motion and support. All in

[57:00] favor? >> I opposed. Motion carried.

Au Gres Michigan City Council Meeting, May 5, 2026.

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