[0:01] 2, stay September 22nd, 2026. It is 6,03pm. I am going to call the meeting to order.

[0:11] present are myself, Gina Lyon, trustees, also Marilyn Proo and Elis Merchett, and we have Chris

[0:23] Scowren joining us.

[0:28] Um, any changes to the agenda, additions or deletions?

[0:35] I do have one,

[0:39] I actually have a couple, so age, community giving garden, they cancels,

[0:43] they were not able to come.

[0:46] Tentatively, they might be coming on the 13th that our next meeting, not set in stone yet,

[0:52] but so that is getting scratched out.

[0:55] And I am adding the SKRP because we have a final number and we have to get a notice out

[1:02] to our electric customers which I'm planning to do in the next billing cycle.

[1:09] Privilege of the floor.

[1:11] Chris, that's you.

[1:12] Do you have anything for us?

[1:13] Nope. Okay. Move and rate on. Teams meeting with Curt Muller with the HB Amerike Kelli

[1:22] regarding the High Street Project. Good evening. Thank you for joining us.

[1:33] Absolutely.

[1:35] So I think we wanted to have all parties together to meet to discuss where exactly this

[1:44] project is at, as far as the testing.

[1:48] I know the last report was sent into the state

[1:53] and I believe EPA, but Kurt, if you went

[1:58] mind just updating the full board as to where this project is,

[2:03] currently, that would be great.

[2:06] Totally.

[2:07] And I guess just for the sake of everybody here

[2:09] should I start from the beginning of it, or just

[2:12] shortly enough date of Princess the last time we connected.

[2:15] So I should say,

[2:17] Marica Kelly is joining us.

[2:18] She is the attorney that was assigned to us from BLCT.

[2:22] Marica, what would you prefer,

[2:24] a quick synopsis from the beading?

[2:27] Yeah, I'm just needing a quick synopsis stuff to...

[2:30] Okay.

[2:31] Great.

[2:36] So, for the sign that this project

[2:39] can work working with the middle of our instance,

[2:42] historically there have been a lot of transformers

[2:44] in this area that had a leak in this, in the honest site on high street that had an apparently leak.

[2:50] I'm going to share a figure showing the, the parcel here.

[2:55] And so, as a result, there have been some media action prior to our involvement.

[3:00] And at some degree of remediation, namely the removal of those transformers,

[3:06] but this is a little interlocked, the interlocked, so I've never been investigated.

[3:08] And it's actually sat for better part of decades until the village got a letter from the state to take for their action.

[3:18] So as a result, we, because the PCBs are a contaminant that is considered toxic, they are in this toxic substance control act of the vision of the EPA.

[3:30] And there's a very prescribed way that they need to be investigated.

[3:35] It's not like a petroleum release where you just sample here there and everywhere to understand the extent.

[3:42] There's a requirement to sample basically under 10 feet, and then it's 6 inch intervals below.

[3:48] And the idea is that you can delineate the extent of these PCB, because ultimately dating them out,

[3:54] in a, you know, almost surgical manner and segregating them to various categories, but more

[4:00] contaminated being very expensive to give rid of. And obviously, one of the minimize that

[4:03] about and the lower concentrations being less expensive to get rid of or isolate. So we have done

[4:12] a now two three iterations. There's a sort of an overview sampling effort that was initial. And then

[4:19] we've been following this task of prescribed grid here.

[4:23] So I've got, this is an overview of the entire site.

[4:27] And then I've got individual maps, you can see page 9, page 12

[4:33] that can zoom in on those locations.

[4:35] But I think this is the most helpful.

[4:37] The color coding, there are three different standards

[4:39] that we're looking at here.

[4:42] The first being the residential standard,

[4:45] which essentially says if you're both

[4:46] the residential standard. You can reuse the soil. It's not contaminated in an un-covered

[4:52] waste. Then, until we go off-site, the purple standard is what's considered the non-residential

[4:57] standard in the state. Then, the red is representative of the litosca threshold standard.

[5:06] So to put a little more context there, the litosca standard is one part per million, one

[5:13] kilogram per kilogram. The residential standard is 0.1 and the industrial or or not

[5:21] residential standards 0.5.8. So all that to say, we've got, we've got a scenario

[5:29] here where the last round of sampling really focused on this southern portion south

[5:37] of the high-speed property itself. And so there have been reports that there

[5:42] potentially transformers that were still buried in this particular area. So we hired a

[5:50] underground utility locator that used ground penetrating radar and a magnetometer to better understand

[5:57] where those underground transformers or objects were still buried. And in doing so you can see

[6:04] it's void here where we did not put the boring. And the reason being, we need to put boring

[6:10] through a transformer to then pierce it to cause more of a release but we did take a lot of samples

[6:16] around there and you can see that the so if you zoom in really close here you can see that there

[6:23] if it's red in the middle and lean on the outside that means we determine the vertical

[6:29] instead. And so what I'm going to do is shift here to another figure, excuse me, and it's

[6:36] right here, as we move them all up there.

[6:42] Move this key, pardon me.

[6:44] Oh, you're good.

[6:47] There's a patient meeting in kind of great quotes. This is the one I'm looking for.

[7:03] Mm-hmm.

[7:07] What was it self? Okay, perfect. There's another one for it. So if you go, if you don't

[7:11] here. We have, you'll see each one of these call-out boxes as a series

[7:22] of,

[7:28] sorry, it's not like in this file.

[7:31] And I have to hear it. It's coming again.

[7:40] Just to get a sense here. So you can see that there were, I'm trying to zoom in, but it's not liking as I, there.

[7:49] So you can see there were, there were samples collected at six inch animals at each of these locations. The idea here is that we're trying to find the vertical extent and the horizontal extent.

[7:58] So, if you look at this one location here, for example, V-21, we had pretty elevated concentrations.

[8:06] They got really high in the 12th and just 18, 18, and 24th, but then they peered off down to non-detect at that.

[8:13] So, the purpose of this investigation is to determine the lateral extent and the vertical extent,

[8:18] to then know where is this problem, to then be able to remediate it and dig it out.

[8:22] And until we do that, task of the EPA requires the intern and the extent before you build a remediation plan.

[8:29] And so the thing we can done this investigation is innocent, where we collect a lot of samples in the field

[8:36] and run them iteratively, meaning we run them, you know, we run them up the first one, the second one, the third one, the fourth one.

[8:42] There's no point running all of them if we found the vertical extent.

[8:45] And that saves money at the end and that we don't need all the data just to determine the extent.

[8:50] So, the bottom line here is, we've done pretty well in determining the extent in some of the locations.

[8:59] However, there are a few that remain, but still the extent has not been determined.

[9:06] So if you look down here, all of this work down here was this last iteration,

[9:11] but we still have these elevated concentrations at the far southern end.

[9:15] and we took, you know, many more than we had anticipated what we would need, we thought we would be ending here

[9:21] and then boom, it came back, you know, the concentration is again, Rose. So in terms of next steps,

[9:28] it's important to determine that extent down here. There's a little area here that we require a little

[9:35] a little bit more investigation, but not much. Now in terms of cleanup, it really depends on two things.

[9:41] the reuse of the property and the zoning.

[9:45] So this property, the former facility here,

[9:51] that is not considered a residential property

[9:53] and the use is not residential.

[9:57] Therefore, in terms of remediation,

[9:59] you wouldn't have to remediate it to the residential standard.

[10:02] You could remediate it to the EPA standard.

[10:05] And furthermore, there may be opportunities there

[10:07] to leave some of the contamination in place

[10:09] After you read the worst source, the leads of contamination in place, and then tap it in a way

[10:16] with the agentages of gravel and an indicator marker, and then potentially put a fence around

[10:21] it to say, you know, the Philiniciacs.

[10:23] So there ways to address the issue without getting rid of every green contaminated soil off the site.

[10:32] And ultimately, that is a more cost effective approach.

[10:36] So, with EPA, there are two kind of categories, there is a high occupancy, and a low occupancy.

[10:42] The high occupancy means you use it more than 6.7 hours per week below occupancy,

[10:48] and if you use it less than 6.7 hours per week, just the way the standards are calculated.

[10:54] So, we are the opinion that a more cost effective way to address the property of here would be to take that lower occupancy route,

[11:03] potentially, you're storing, you know, what have you there, but

[11:07] fence it off and then put some sort of barrier down after you've gotten rid of

[11:11] the worst forest down in this parcel though, unless the zoning is changed to

[11:18] non-residential, we're going to, the requirement will be that we

[11:24] delineate to the extent of residential and we would need to, to take more samples.

[11:29] We still will, in some extent, down here, but we can kind of end it at the purple, let's

[11:35] say, as opposed to ending having to go all the way to green, which is a much lower standard.

[11:41] So it really depends on how far we take that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that

[11:45] of investigation, depending on what the future uses and what the property will be zoned at.

[11:52] So once we determine the extent, which, again, will require one more iteration of investigation

[11:57] another round of investigation. Then we develop a remediation plan, which will, like I said,

[12:03] excavate some cap sum, and then address this area where these transformers were located

[12:10] that appear to be vertical. So we're in a game of another round of investigation that

[12:15] is remediation planning, so that's kind of my feel, but we're going to open up your questions if you

[12:21] Great. Thank you.

[12:27] At this point, we can't go on to the next phase of testing until you hear back from

[12:34] Is it EPA?

[12:38] Correct. Yes, I'd like the EPA to provide input.

[12:42] They've been out of the loop for about a part of 18 months on this because there's one EPA coordinator

[12:47] in New England and their responsiveness is isn't less than favorable. So I think it's

[12:54] proved to check back in so there where we are and where we're headed and then determined

[13:01] to begin to determine even though we needed a more investigation we haven't really

[13:04] been sensitive but where we're headed. I want to connect with them on the proposed

[13:09] just radiation plan as well, just so we're designing the investigation to get that in line.

[13:16] Okay.

[13:17] Okay.

[13:17] So yes, I need your back.

[13:18] So just to clarify, this isn't being held up because of the village or anything.

[13:24] This is.

[13:25] Okay.

[13:26] Perfect.

[13:26] Thank you.

[13:28] Um.

[13:30] Can you do either of you have any questions?

[13:34] No, not really.

[13:35] pretty much covered. Yeah, I mean we're kind of a stance still but it sounds. Yeah, very okay.

[13:45] Yeah, I just wanted clarity on you said that both of us

[13:55] are gonna be just finding both zoning and

[14:01] use our determinative in terms of what you need to do, one by using this occupancy.

[14:09] The

[14:13] zoning, so from this, it's two different kind of regulatory bodies, from the state's perspective, what dictates the standard used to clean something up is the zoning.

[14:26] So even if you have a property that's in a residentialized area, but is used for parking garage or a parking lot, it's not, it doesn't have a home, the zoning is what will dictate the cleanup standard.

[14:42] Because if it's known as residential units, it spends the off and not used, you still have

[14:52] Please check out

[14:54] Here's on residential

[14:57] Yes, there's a bit more flexibility

[15:00] If you were to say, look, we can never, we can't afford to clean up to that standard, and we're never going to use this property. There'd be a way that you could put a dean restriction on the property, but in terms of the investments, in terms of investigating the extent.

[15:15] Not necessarily the cleanup, but investigating the extent you'd investigate to what it is zone with the zoning suggested, so under five of the benefits.

[15:26] Okay, so that's the investigation as the remediation.

[15:31] Correct.

[15:31] And the remediation aside of things, the EPA days, if we have two categories, is either

[15:37] higher from the C or low occupancy.

[15:40] EPA doesn't care if it's a paint factory or nursery school.

[15:43] The paint factory has people working there for more than 6.7 hours a week.

[15:48] The EPA, the EPA standard is quite a higher than the state standard, so what we're trying

[15:52] do is essentially pull the state along to agree to the EPA standard given the fact that

[15:58] this will be non-residential and the bill is just spent an arm in a way that trying to

[16:03] eliminate this and with a deep restriction on the property saying there are these issues

[16:09] in place, we're taking these remedial measures. Can you leave us alone in state? I think that's

[16:15] the direction that the arm already kind of connected with them on that, but we need EPA to

[16:19] you know that approach as well. Okay, and that's all. Thank you. You're sure. Great.

[16:28] Any other questions? I don't have any. That's time. No, I don't. No.

[16:35] Thank you so much for joining us, Kurt. I'll see you all next time.

[16:41] We'll be in touch again. I'm sure once you hear from EPA, I'll hear from you.

[16:45] Okay, forgive that sounds good. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye bye.

[16:51] All right, so that leaves just Mary Caves and us, based on this conversation that we just had.

[17:01] I would like to go into Executive Session to discuss the matter.

[17:07] So unfortunately, it's a little cold.

[17:11] Press.

[17:12] Okay, you're welcome to come back because we still have more items.

[17:16] I'm anticipating it to be like seven, quarter after seven.

[17:22] Okay, feel free to call me after, though, if you want to and you know how to get all of them.

[17:28] Have a good night.

[17:29] Thank you.

[17:30] Be careful on that step.

[17:31] Okay.

[17:32] I will.

[17:33] Thanks.

[17:33] You too.

[17:36] So, um, it is now 7, 21, p.m.

[17:42] 6, 6, 21.

[17:43] She's on Corbus.

[17:44] It's been a long week and it's like Tuesday.

[17:47] 6, 21, p.m.

[17:49] thank you Marilyn. I am going to make a motion that we go into executive session under legal

[17:55] action one VSA State Statue 313A1E.

[18:00] Let's do it.

[18:03] Chipper is seconding, all those in favor.

[18:07] All right, motion passes, we are now in executive session.

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