Cache CEO Advisory Board Meeting

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[0:00] It's been about a year since I was out there, maybe a little more than a year. It's been a lot of work, a ton of work. We just had a ribbon cutting in May, and we had roughly 250 people come to the ribbon cutting. Good turnout, a lot of. And interestingly, even with our businesses that rent, space in the building, they've now hired several employees
[0:30] each and we now have I think 115 key holders that work in the building for the
[0:39] businesses that we're incubating there. Wow.
[0:45] So how many members stand? You have
[0:47] 62 clients that use the key virtual kitchen. I didn't explain how that works.
[0:53] You have 62 clients using a commercial kitchen. How many
[0:59] understand. Yeah that's a real calendaring challenge. I have people that come and say I was thinking about
[1:10] creating a commercial kitchen as a business and I say good for you please do good luck with that.
[1:19] I wish you the best we'll do what we can to help you but I would never do it personally. It's a lot of work and a lot of logistics we have
[1:30] We pay for a scheduling program that helps.
[1:33] They pay by the hour, so it's a $100 a year annual fee to keep their key current and
[1:41] to keep them current in the kitchen, and then it's $20 an hour.
[1:46] And they have the entire kitchen to themselves, which is about 1,000 square feet currently.
[1:52] And they can bring employees in to help with that, but they as the business owner need
[1:58] to be compliant with the health department and you taught the Department of Agriculture
[2:02] and Food and we line them up with those inspectors so that they can be compliant there and
[2:11] then they sign the kitchen contract with the whole bunch of rules and then they use the
[2:21] have a queue that gives them 24-7 access to the kitchen, so we calendar time 90-70s a week.
[2:29] With the volume of users that you have now, you have a transitional strategy or an official
[2:40] strategy, or just as far as them, you know, transitioning out of that center and it's
[2:51] a good way to break in order, for example.
[2:53] Yeah, that's a good question.
[2:55] So we have a transition strategy for our office spaces.
[3:03] We don't for the kitchen.
[3:04] Our offices start low at $300 a month, and by the sixth year, they're $600 an hour.
[3:14] And so we just raise it every year, and they typically will transition themselves.
[3:21] We used to do that with a kitchen.
[3:23] It just became an administrative nightmare to track who was paying what per hour.
[3:30] And even though we would plug it into spreadsheets and different things that still go just taking too much time on what we've discovered with the kitchen is they tend to graduate themselves or go out of business.
[3:48] Food-based businesses are an awesome inexpensive business to get into if you have access to a kitchen like this.
[3:58] And
[4:02] so it saves people a lot of money from going and trying to purchase their own equipment
[4:06] or they can do the cottage permit and do it at home if they meet compliance because
[4:14] you can't have like a cat in the house, you can't, there's rules of that.
[4:19] So you can do a cottage permit up to a certain level, but if you want your product and Lee's
[4:26] marketplace, they're not going to take it from a cottage kitchen that has to be a commercial
[4:30] was verified in Inspector Petition.
[4:34] So we give them that opportunity to come in and use it,
[4:38] but some will fail quickly.
[4:42] When they start really producing,
[4:46] they take grandma's recipe for cinnamon rolls,
[4:48] and it's really good for Christmas time.
[4:52] But when you start trying to mass produce those
[4:54] and make a margin on those, they quickly
[4:57] learn that I would have to charge $8 a cinnamon roll,
[5:01] it's not worth it and I can't get help or whatever the case may be and they go up quickly.
[5:07] Those that grow tend to move on and get their home facility or, you know, for example,
[5:19] we had one and it just recently ended badly but it was a good success story from my standpoint.
[5:26] point. It was a business called Hokito, the turn into NUM, and we helped grow them from
[5:36] an idea through, in our kitchen sheet, probably had a dozen employees in there helping her
[5:45] produce protein-based snacks.
[5:51] And then central milling became the financial partner for her.
[5:58] And she moved out of our facility on to Sixth West,
[6:02] kind of like just south of Cafe Support,
[6:06] by the train tracks there, where central milling owns a building
[6:09] there.
[6:10] And that's when they changed her name to NUM.
[6:13] And then a few years ago, Centribillion wanted out, but she, by that time, had 20 employees
[6:23] and all of her own equipment.
[6:24] It was really a success story.
[6:27] They also got into some issues, I believe, with the name.
[6:33] They got into issues with the name of Centribillion, her chose because it was Oakito, which was her
[6:41] name.
[6:41] and it was fine. But they wanted to use NUM and I thought, that name's already being used.
[6:50] You might want to check on that. They went full. Anyway, between the, it was a good example
[6:58] of with money, you know, they move out of here and become real. Our kitchens been used by,
[7:08] We probably need to put together a portfolio of success stories.
[7:12] There's several that moved out.
[7:14] I think stack pancakes used to it when they first started.
[7:21] There've been several that kind of moved out.
[7:24] Sorry, the hummus.
[7:26] Part of those guys making hummus.
[7:28] Yeah, they used to sell it in the stores.
[7:31] We've done Salt Lake, I think.
[7:33] Yep.
[7:34] How many users did you have say a year ago?
[7:37] You had 62 now, right?
[7:39] Yeah, I would say 40, and then if there was a full saturation point of weight you could handle there, what number would that be?
[7:52] I know they vary from that.
[7:53] Yeah, the hard part is some may come in to use it for 10 hours and some may use it for an hour.
[7:58] It's in the ballpark though.
[8:00] Average operation maybe.
[8:02] As it currently stands, probably we're
[8:11] getting pretty close because you run the 24-7.
[8:17] So if you've upsized it, Mark, would that borrow that from 80 to something different?
[8:22] I think so.
[8:23] I mean, plus we want to, the way we want to expand up, we want to divide the kitchen essentially
[8:29] into kind of three segments so that we can utilize, rather than, let's say, we have a company
[8:37] that makes protein powder and then sells it online.
[8:42] So like you go to the gym, you work out, you have your protein drink, they make the powder,
[8:47] they partnered with someone from the university, they went through a series, and their bags
[8:54] are very professional.
[8:55] They market it through online sales.
[8:57] They also have a coffee creamer that's done really well.
[9:01] I think they've got it in blocked rifle coffee shops and etc.
[9:05] So they sell this all over, they do this protein powder and all they do really is they use
[9:13] our space so that it's legal to produce in cell and they use mixers, like a big floor
[9:21] mixers and they have a thing that looks kind of like a concrete mixture made out of plastic
[9:27] that tumbles out and they bring it into the space that makes all this stuff up but while
[9:32] they're doing that it ties up the entire kitchen. So even though they don't use
[9:37] the ovens and the stoves and the kind of thing, it ties it all up because they're
[9:43] using the entire serving. So in our thoughts for design, we're creating a
[9:50] production and packaging segment of the kitchen that is separate from the baking
[9:56] and cooking section of the kitchen. And then we're also dividing that into the
[10:01] the cooking, deep fry grill, whatever side of the kitchen and the baking side of the kitchen.
[10:09] So it should make it at a minimum that we can have three separate
[10:17] genres of people using
[10:20] the kitchen.
[10:21] So I think it will, besides being able to add capacity in general, I think will help in several
[10:29] different ways. We're going to run up against an administration wall I think once we get that in
[10:38] before we run into a spatial wall because we're already pretty we've got you know there's we have
[10:44] very little help there and we you know very little we don't really get any funding from city and
[10:51] county and all of our funding now or state other than through BTEC for salaries. So we're
[11:02] pretty much dependent on taking the money that's generated and putting it back in to keep
[11:08] it operational. So maybe as we gather more mass with rental income, we might be able to hire
[11:17] a part-time person, just to manage the kitchen, to be honest with you, thank you very
[11:29] much.
[11:30] Thank you.
[11:31] Sorry, more than you want to probably.
[11:33] Well, you have your own item number nine, so if you just merge the two together, I think it's great.
[11:39] Cool.
[11:40] And based on questions, I think you got a lot of us.
[11:43] You and I can talk with great frequency.
[11:46] I thought of new questions right here versus the tours.
[11:50] two tours in the last one percent and with different boats, so we learned something
[11:55] that I really appreciate.
[11:58] So, Mr. Chairman, more coming back to this slide here, you can see on the screen these three
[12:04] boxes, which now is the spirit or something, I don't know where he's at, they should back
[12:09] up for some mooner.
[12:11] That is what we advanced for with this particular 27 allocation and what has been approved
[12:18] If I could note, Sean, just for the audio record, I was not present to vote on that.
[12:26] That's true, that was not swayed by me.
[12:29] That is a fair point.
[12:31] Thank you.
[12:32] It is reflective of your absence in the last meeting by the minutes of the group tonight.
[12:37] So that is worth knowing.
[12:39] And if I get asked by the county council, not that I think a little is already approved it.
[12:44] but I can say for the number of the audio recording that is good, that we could increase on the amount of points.
[12:52] So, there you have that.
[12:56] Mr. Chairman, can I note to item number 8?
[12:58] Yes.
[12:58] Any other questions about this in your 27th?
[13:02] Yes, please. I don't think about that here.
[13:04] Rick, so here in our county, Brian knows full well because he was here during the creation of Genesis.
[13:13] of the cash sum. And as I understand, actually, I'll defer to you, Mr. Chair. But you want to talk about the
[13:19] chances when I can talk about how it would change you to be a agenda that you see there.
[13:23] Yeah, yeah. Sure. 10 years ago, I was part of a partnership with a private firm in the cash
[13:29] county to put together a forum to talk about development issues in the county, particularly finding ways
[13:38] to find common ground between the administrative planners and land use managers of the county
[13:50] and municipal jurisdictions and the private sector builders and developers that were providing
[13:58] housing stock generally and trying to find ways to facilitate the development of a wider
[14:06] variety of housing and development styles within the county. It evolved over time to include a
[14:13] wide variety of development concerns including agricultural preservation, water conservation,
[14:20] infrastructure efficiency, and even to a point business and economic success and sustainability within
[14:31] county and you know that program has gone on for I think we had our 11th annual meeting last year
[14:39] and so it's you know been slowly evolving to address hot topics and and items of concern
[14:50] throughout the county and we've got a new name which I'm okay with because to be honest I never
[14:58] Relic to the incassion when it photos.
[15:01] Well, we've worked out, man. Wimpy way to approach it, but you know, it got the job done, so I can't, I can't complain.
[15:09] Do you recall that?
[15:14] Yeah, that was a, that was a regional economic development conference. I believe when did that start around 2005, 2006? And that ran for 12, 13 years.
[15:26] And that changed something similar to the cash summit, and then that ended up changing
[15:32] to be like the cash business summit?
[15:34] Yeah, yeah, the cash so that the what's up, what's going down up north was kind of a, it
[15:41] was at the time the clever play answer to what's up down south, which is a big economic development
[15:49] and real estate conference in St. George.
[15:51] So we had one for Northern Utah, and yeah, yeah, after the kind of regional three county plus
[16:00] southeastern Idaho, what's going down up north kind of ran out of steam, Cash County,
[16:06] Chamber of Commerce picked up the torch and started running a program that turned into
[16:12] the Cash Business Summit, which is now kind of the Cash Chambers Economic Development Conference
[16:22] So I think the brick helps different year.
[16:26] Yeah, definitely.
[16:28] Thank you.
[16:30] And it was partly for that.
[16:32] So thank you very much for that, that, you know,
[16:35] Janice, for last year we started
[16:38] audibly calling it the brick summit,
[16:40] or it's in the Bragg summit,
[16:42] because we were trying to fulfill desires.
[16:46] So Bragg's going more, everybody here probably already knows
[16:49] it's not Bragg's going more than 15 individuals.
[16:51] They're all elected officials.
[16:53] There are three representing each county,
[16:55] and then there are two mayors for each county.
[16:57] So each county has five seats.
[16:59] The two that have county commissions
[17:01] with the three person commission form,
[17:02] they have all three of the commissioners as members.
[17:05] This county because of our seven member county council
[17:08] and the county executive being separately elected,
[17:10] they have two council members and the county executive.
[17:13] And then again, each one has two mayors.
[17:16] Well, we've heard for the last few years
[17:18] that cash and box elder particularly want greater regional coordination and it kind
[17:24] of started with an ag airport which I'm teasing up and I'm going to talk to Brian about
[17:30] being in our next agenda when we have more members to constitute it because I think it will be
[17:34] really interesting for them to see, I'll make a quicker mention about that here in a minute.
[17:40] But that really kind of became the genesis of these counties saying that if we truly want
[17:45] to look different and build out differently than on the prolobe we need to do some things
[17:50] different.
[17:51] Which was the cash sum, but it was just the cash sum.
[17:54] So this year we'll represent the third year of the box other sum, and that's what
[18:02] she wanted to talk to me about and we're going to wait on the can.
[18:05] Sidebar conversations.
[18:05] Sorry guys.
[18:06] I need to talk.
[18:07] I need to talk to you about that later.
[18:08] But they too are.
[18:10] Well, let's emulate the same kind of success
[18:12] that cashed on as that.
[18:15] But it still keeps them as two separate things,
[18:18] and they really have a lot in common.
[18:21] It's funny that I say that after being
[18:24] pitchforked and torched together with John Drew
[18:27] this last year, Truman, because they said, yeah.
[18:31] We don't want to be like the big city of Logan.
[18:33] We don't care if we have to say.
[18:34] We were asked by city leaders, though,
[18:36] I'd go for some of the workshop that was not
[18:38] But, rare city council meeting, but one set up at the city council was about housing.
[18:43] And, oh my gosh, did we learn that they think we are the threat.
[18:47] And we're like, well, that's funny because we think we have a lot more common
[18:52] and loaded things up to the threat.
[18:54] So, it's just funny how that changing the perspective goes, right?
[18:58] But, anyway, so, the idea was, last year we started calling it the drag summit
[19:03] because we wanted to do know that it was more reachable.
[19:05] but we still advertise it as a cash flow.
[19:07] And with both the projected timeline
[19:09] to be able to execute and knowing the human capacity
[19:12] to only absorb so much change in time,
[19:14] we made some changes last year,
[19:16] and we admittedly punted some of it to be this year.
[19:19] And the name changed as one.
[19:20] So this year, again, we workshopped the heck out of this,
[19:24] immediately following the conclusion
[19:25] of last year's cash-slash-brack summit.
[19:29] We had a post event survey that went out,
[19:32] was great information that we got back.
[19:35] It's funny how literally, an example of one person,
[19:40] one presenter, was what somebody just loved,
[19:43] we gave five stars, and like 14 responses later,
[19:46] that same presentation got one start
[19:49] from something totally different, right?
[19:51] So just interesting, where that kind of importance
[19:55] of getting feedback can come into play.
[19:58] And we threw out on the last session, we threw out, hey folks, we're thinking about reading
[20:05] this.
[20:06] And we, so we let everybody that was in attendance last year, no.
[20:10] Boxellers feel, boxellers, they just feel like they have more common with the night county
[20:14] than they do the southern part of we were coming.
[20:17] Let alone anything further south.
[20:19] And the cash county has, cash county leaders just said that they feel the same way about
[20:23] framework. And as we all know here, they're very important to our workforce. As a matter
[20:29] of fact, 52% of the adult age workforce at Franklin County, their residents, 52% coming
[20:36] to the Utah side of the border, they can reach our businesses and our strip malls with their
[20:41] lunch and grocery store purchases before they go back home. We meet them to be successful too.
[20:49] So, we started workshopping, you know, what the name would be.
[20:52] So Brick stands for Bareware Innovation Commerce and Knowledge Law.
[20:56] I don't love it.
[20:57] I'm just being honest with you.
[20:59] I don't love it, but there are all sorts of critiques that I don't want to give you because
[21:04] I don't want you to have them if you haven't already thought of something.
[21:07] But, at the same time, we couldn't find anything that would just be unanimously loved.
[21:12] and we've come to learn folks and I don't know apparently think that we're a big
[21:17] brother and that we're always demeaning and telling them what to do and so we've
[21:23] tried really hard to not have what's going down on the north because then we
[21:27] immediately tell them that it's well they're soft so that must not plan them and we
[21:32] want them to show up so thus the name and building what matters is a little bit
[21:38] to understand that I wish we were a little bit bigger,
[21:41] but one brick doesn't do anything,
[21:44] but you have a lot of bricks and you can build something.
[21:46] And that's kind of what the tone of the leaders
[21:49] will talk about it.
[21:50] So that being said, the southeast side of the counties
[21:53] are invited.
[21:54] It's going to be two days.
[21:55] You see there on the screen October 14th and 15th.
[21:57] 14th, first half of the day is going to be mobile tours.
[22:00] This is going to look different.
[22:01] Cash sum that last year, and when we were working in
[22:04] concert with the Chamber of Commerce,
[22:06] we had some mobile tours.
[22:07] Connect was really good to let us use a bus in the driver, but it maxed us out of 40 people that could get on the bus.
[22:14] And reasonably, if we had a bus, we could really only pick one route, and to go between all six of those counties, or even free, dummy, it's just not reasonable.
[22:25] So we're going to rip off something that we've seen C-Shock to be deployed in another conference
[22:30] where folks will drive to their own destination of a cafeteria plan, of sites where folks work with us to say
[22:40] Sure, we'll get one minute or we'll get three when it goes for one hour in between that night and clock and one o'clock kind of time for it.
[22:48] And then your attendees can just show up and they recognize we're going to have to figure this out.
[22:52] How it goes and if it's successful or not, you know, maybe one of those tours is really interactive
[22:58] for two people and one host and the next hour is 20 people and one host.
[23:03] We don't know what we don't know yet, but we want to showcase the communities
[23:08] that we're trying to drop the women from.
[23:11] So that's going to be first part of day one and then this worked out really well.
[23:14] This is one of the changes we instituted last year.
[23:18] We had after hours because the cash fund has always been
[23:21] like for government employees during business hours.
[23:24] But we found that we kind of maxed out
[23:27] the audience that we were getting.
[23:30] And we wanted planning and sewing commissioners to show up
[23:33] because after all, some of the first blush,
[23:36] the first touches, whether it's economic development,
[23:38] and Kirk and I are bringing you something to somebody.
[23:40] We could be as business-friendly as we want
[23:42] right in front of the fine design feels like it's pre-cooked before it comes to them. I'm seeking
[23:46] partly a rhyme, too. My own days when I was planning to design a commission, you're like, well, I'm
[23:51] I'm not sure I understand. And so we want them to be involved in the process, too, but if they're
[23:56] working a full-time job, and they're volunteers, and I can use a PTO to come to this sort of stuff
[24:01] musically. And then we have a bunch of small town mayors that also help the time jobs, and it's a very
[24:06] of our time job to be mayor or council member.
[24:08] So we did after hours and we made folks with dinner,
[24:12] keynote, and a breakout.
[24:14] Well, we had two concurrently,
[24:15] three concurrent breakout sessions,
[24:17] the one block of time.
[24:19] And it was really well attended.
[24:20] We had like 70 to 90 people,
[24:22] which we thought was higher than we expected.
[24:24] So we're gonna do that again this year.
[24:27] That's day one and then day two looks very much to say,
[24:29] typical content of breakfast.
[24:30] And the morning when we began,
[24:32] it goes until four o'clock,
[24:33] we have three keynote speakers,
[24:34] breakfast, lunch, dinner.
[24:38] and then we'll have a total of two breakout sessions on the night and three breakout sessions
[24:44] during the day. And each one of those will have four concurrent tracks. Those four concurrent
[24:48] tracks are economic development, community development, municipal governments, which I'll
[24:54] talk about here in a second, and historic and cultural preservation. I don't know everything
[25:01] about how Kirk sells low in city free money development.
[25:04] But one of my things that I sell is not what most landowners
[25:08] immediately come to me and say,
[25:09] hey, but we've got cheap land.
[25:12] Up and down the African Corridor
[25:13] or another rural community stay at cheap land.
[25:16] And particularly here at Cash, they might
[25:18] mean that's the freeway.
[25:19] Logistically, that's the way they better sense
[25:21] to come to Cash and come over so they can get there.
[25:24] Corridor Rich County is there even further from the freeway
[25:27] and they even have less work force like it.
[25:30] But that's not going to be a subtle feature, and I argue around the lake they don't have
[25:35] cheap land.
[25:36] You know, we have more water, but certain parts of it are on the bear root, or in the
[25:41] great salt lake.
[25:42] They can say they have water from the bear root, too.
[25:43] So I sell our community with the quality of life, the historical and cultural preservation.
[25:49] Wendy is going to be a great asset.
[25:50] She's grouped by the county county because she can speak with that.
[25:54] We know that for communities our size Washington County doesn't have what Wendy is doing here.
[25:59] and they have a bigger population than us.
[26:02] And so, you know, there's going to be some really great
[26:04] opportunity to be shaken when to the conversations.
[26:07] But historic and cultural preservation is about that.
[26:10] Let me go back to that, that other of the four tribes
[26:12] called municipal governments.
[26:13] It doesn't really matter to us, but those small town mayors
[26:16] and councils that have no full-time staff,
[26:20] there's a government program where I know it's called
[26:22] community advisor, and it's been funded by the legislature
[26:25] for the last three years.
[26:26] and it embeds somebody at an A of G like what rag is,
[26:30] the A.G. as Association of Governments.
[26:33] So everyone at A of G's throughout the state
[26:35] has one or more community advisors.
[26:38] They go out and they help those small communities
[26:42] and act as fractional employees.
[26:45] So unfortunately for us in a three-county area,
[26:47] we have a 40.
[26:48] So that's a lot for just two part timers
[26:51] to try to help, but it's not policy and ordinance
[26:53] development, it's been really interesting since Ryan's departure, working with a
[26:59] rather department. One of those team members mentioned, do we know how to say,
[27:06] Rooster Farm, for the lack of battery, call the 800 Roosters? There's a municipality
[27:12] with no full-time staff that this community advisory role is helping and finding out
[27:18] the challenges between an ag-protected business and being a neighbor in a
[27:24] municipality to 800 roosters. So, you know, it's about trying to help sometimes
[27:31] in the year, the other night, because I acknowledge all about truth and
[27:37] taxation, one of our community advisors just left for another career path very,
[27:42] very recently. I got to go to one of these communities that this function
[27:47] and teach some about truth and taxation.
[27:51] And because they were unfortunately one of the communities
[27:53] last year that tried to pass probably taxes across T,
[27:55] but maybe the dotted eyes did everything else
[27:58] and they were told, sorry, didn't quite meet it everything.
[28:02] Other boxes were checked.
[28:03] So on this year, they're trying to do it
[28:05] and maybe to get that presentation
[28:07] for the benefit of the public behind you
[28:09] with the bill I was looking at the City Council, right?
[28:12] So that's kind of what that track is about.
[28:14] The other two, I think, are pretty self explanatory
[28:20] We're hoping to have a targeted audience of 150, which isn't much more than we have last year,
[28:26] but we'll see how those will came up to 200.
[28:29] We have a keynote speaker for voicing, because we're trying to draw on these Idaho folks,
[28:32] and they did not just be fostered.
[28:34] We also have a panel of commissioners who are going to speak about a national program
[28:40] on rural development.
[28:41] development. So my hope is that those kind of main dropping things to the southeast side of the
[28:46] communities can get them to the county. Very least hurt for me to do bump up a couple of hotels
[28:51] days. We'll see. For all of us, we're more local and sure we won't be staying overnight at the
[28:55] rear of the expel. We'll see. So that's that, Mr. Chairman. Great. Thank you.
[29:02] Yeah. Things are on sale now. The website is still a little bit under development. I don't
[29:08] I don't think we need, yeah, we don't have anywhere to do it.
[29:12] I'm going to look at that thing.
[29:15] I'm looking at Cambria because she is on the set committee for branding.
[29:20] We haven't agenda kind of occupied with many of the spots yet, but we haven't.
[29:25] So there's going to be that outlining.
[29:27] When break-ups, you see things like that.
[29:31] If you do that, you would be paid for it.
[29:33] I don't know basically what it's not.
[29:35] But we're still looking to lock down some of those, but I would say roughly speaking, we have half of the agenda already.
[29:43] So I'm some of that here shortly.
[29:46] The closing keynote, I'm hopeful for a kind of big name.
[29:51] So we'll see whether or not we can make this happen.
[29:54] There are some people that are very, very challenging.
[29:57] All right, so there's that.
[29:58] And I think it's germane here.
[30:00] As we're trying with this economic development approach, we'll look more regional. Again, I'm kind of teaming out the Ag Report. I'll just talk about an Albright. This is my, hey, heads up at a subsequent meeting where we have more of these newly constructed members. For everyone else's benefit, we'd be calling it the, you know, going on tour. The Ag Report study is done that we got a rural community's opportunity grant for a number of years ago. We came an under budget.
[30:29] So that's fantastic, and I want to commend Brian and his team.
[30:34] He brought in a lot of the town folks with different perspectives of J.B., but even some external
[30:39] partners to validate the economic development on numbers so that it's not us just pocketing
[30:45] and looking at the look at it, and really taking a look at that.
[30:48] So that will be for him.
[30:51] All right.
[30:54] So we are on that.
[30:55] How much would it take?
[30:56] It's 150, 150 years.
[31:01] Thank you for asking.
[31:04] And as anybody knows, there are many small trips
[31:06] that we like to meet from the group.
[31:08] We're happy to help them get a part of the tiered levels.
[31:12] And I don't think any of that is on the website, it is.
[31:15] It's not, and something else to know is ticket pricing
[31:17] is that when, over, interversations, whatever that would be,
[31:25] The ticket pricing will break out until you're able to only buy access to a solid evening event
[31:32] or a solid risk data if you do have books that you can't make it to get the time on.
[31:40] The whole thing will go down.
[31:41] I want to give you a question about the most beautiful line because we do recognize some books
[31:46] that will be probably came to that evening, such as you and I will take a video.
[31:53] Thank you for that.
[31:57] Mr. Chairman, any questions about that?
[32:00] questions? No. Okay, I can move on. Update on the Logan Airport and I'm going to ask if we can
[32:05] then need to agenda to answer something before I'm kind of wondering what I'm
[32:10] turning here next working. So number 10 I kind of reviewed a lot of it and the
[32:15] biggest moving parts of that earlier when I noticed that the county's now
[32:18] and so you're older and viable for the finances. Kirk is there anything you want to
[32:23] add to that because I know you are intrinsically evolving the city side of things.
[32:26] No, that's, you've stated it well.
[32:30] And Kirk and I are like Almanair here in Cambridge as
[32:34] ex officio, you know, where we've seen nothing.
[32:37] That's kind of what Kirk and I are on the year 4th, 4th, 4th, 4th, 2.
[32:41] They're going to create a bifurcated board system,
[32:43] two components, or anything, like I know a little bit of some of that.
[32:48] I just know that they were going to have a board meeting
[32:50] recently, or in the next few days, or a couple of weeks,
[32:55] but they're still working on board, so they're coming at the sponsor board, which is
[33:04] elected officials, and that's where the true check writing authority would come from.
[33:10] They really want to clear it off, but operating in my enterprise, I don't even know what that
[33:15] means.
[33:17] And then there'll be kind of an advisory board that would have more subject matter of folks,
[33:24] And I won't spend much more time on that.
[33:27] I will say that, though, there is, general, somewhat specific interest in the airport,
[33:35] for economic purposes.
[33:38] I'm not trying to be coircute.
[33:39] You all likely know how these things work, where certain interested parties try to deal a little
[33:46] about it, they don't want it to nearer to your competitors and then what they're up to.
[33:51] And so there's not a lot of public discourse and talents like to know, you know, things are
[33:57] pretty well-maped and kind of long, but there are a number of entities that are looking at
[34:03] a jace of property for the Arab world because it's specifically like aircraft taxiway.
[34:10] What's on the screen is one of these.
[34:12] This came in just yesterday afternoon.
[34:14] It's only one of just a few, but it's one nonetheless.
[34:18] And it's, by the way, this is the new portal
[34:20] that Goet has created for project submission
[34:24] for those who are RFI's request for information.
[34:27] It's in partnership with the ECU tile
[34:29] that's up here in the top left of the webpage.
[34:35] So the two of them are working in concert.
[34:37] For those of us that have been in this game for a while,
[34:39] ECU has largely, for 40 years, been the ones to go out and outwardly market the state,
[34:45] specifying their interests on the foreign industries that go ahead, or the state has told
[34:51] them that they want more out, biotech, finance, financial technology, advancements, actually
[35:00] aerospace defense, just to make it clear.
[35:02] And so, East Utah is then the one to go out and procure and develop those warm leads.
[35:09] And it was a pay-to-place system.
[35:11] This county and this board a few years ago actually used some of the rural
[35:16] county grant money to pay for a membership.
[35:18] And then it was two years ago to sign it.
[35:20] Let's shift that to a couple of other offices.
[35:24] Mostly because we were aware of the East Utah building.
[35:27] We're looking to reframe your relationship.
[35:29] We weren't really sure how it was going to play out.
[35:31] I'm already telling you today, I'm still not sure that I know how that's going to play out.
[35:35] Kirk, do you feel any better about knowing how that's going to play out in the long term?
[35:42] Sorry, I'm sorry, you're busy.
[35:43] Sorry, I was distracted.
[35:45] It's OK.
[35:45] Tight into that.
[35:46] It was just EEC talk.
[35:47] You prompted me to do a prompt of my own to gather information.
[35:52] So we've got three.
[35:54] Just in my way again, sorry.
[35:55] Just EDC talk about, and like, who knows, really in charge of who's out there marketing it,
[36:00] like, it used to be pretty clear, it was EDC talking about, I think it's a little less clear.
[36:05] And I don't think, I mean, EDC talk, I mean, they're
[36:12] surviving, right?
[36:14] I mean, they want to endure a clarity.
[36:17] So I just think, I know organizations had a great track record.
[36:21] They've been around for years and years.
[36:24] So I think just the handshake and working closely with the Governor's Office of Economic Development.
[36:32] I see that going forward.
[36:36] How do you come in in your turn?
[36:39] Yeah.
[36:41] So what's still that still kind of evolving?
[36:43] But Goethe has gotten me into the RFI business as well.
[36:47] And so they've encouraged us to respond to requests for information RFIs through this portal.
[36:52] and I'm just showing you for transparency,
[36:54] so you can give the boards a mission
[36:57] that this is what the board looks like.
[36:59] One of these that came across history
[37:00] is called Project Alps Atlas.
[37:02] And what I want to note here is Project Atlas
[37:05] is an international aerospace defense company
[37:08] seeking its North American headquarters.
[37:11] Project includes precision and machining.
[37:13] We're pretty darn good at that by industry,
[37:16] with a sector here in the valley.
[37:19] Advanced materials aircraft assembly
[37:21] and center of excellence for continuing education.
[37:27] I don't know, Mark, is there any component
[37:30] with technologists in the state for center of excellence?
[37:33] I'm not sure, but it is definitely like the,
[37:37] on the usual side of this university system.
[37:40] I would think so, although I would say that BTEC had, you know,
[37:44] with their automation department,
[37:46] their welding department and the other things,
[37:51] would lead him to this quite well.
[37:54] So this is the sort of thing that under
[37:56] business retention recruitment, they go and is like,
[37:59] yeah, we don't know that we love
[38:00] working in these positions to get paid for
[38:02] at this European grant money and we,
[38:04] and the other two counties, by the way,
[38:06] strongly pushed back and argued,
[38:07] well, we think this retention recruitment
[38:09] is a project and it happens all year long,
[38:12] and so there's, there's some pushback.
[38:14] Not necessarily coming from this board,
[38:16] thankfully, you know, you're elected officials,
[38:18] that you recommend things to our constituents and that push back.
[38:22] I don't know, you know, the state is obviously the problem with any argument
[38:27] with the political subdivision itself.
[38:29] But these are the kind of things that Kirk and I will respond to.
[38:32] And so you can see here their estimated capital expense is $8 million,
[38:35] their operation, and everybody kind of shoots quick on it.
[38:39] I think you can think 24 months probably with the best.
[38:42] But I thought this was interesting too.
[38:44] I'm sorry, this is going from Monday or on my screen,
[38:46] to be a true blue set by 100 total jobs.
[38:51] Now, there's plenty that could be said, well,
[38:55] what is that averaging end of the wage per employee
[38:58] because notice that it's empty there?
[39:00] They're looking for a quarter of a million square feet.
[39:03] They're looking for about 40 acres.
[39:06] And this, too, doesn't really make sense to me.
[39:09] Kurt and I were talking about this,
[39:10] that they're looking for a wastewater of 10,000 animals
[39:13] that are currently only bringing in eight.
[39:14] So that seems a little bit weird.
[39:16] normally that's hard is going to be 10-10 or 8-8-8 because what comes in goes out. Maybe there's a little
[39:21] bit of loss through, might as well expect or something. Anyway, these are some rough numbers,
[39:27] and then there's four metal hours that they're looking for, but they want to be immediately
[39:35] direct runway access.
[39:40] If not an option to exist for this set up, the project will be
[39:43] interested in leasing land within the airport.
[39:48] And there's another entity that has some other interests,
[39:51] by the way, not this one.
[39:53] And so there is some interests,
[39:55] and we are immediately situated.
[39:57] Again, within our three-county region,
[39:59] this could also be by Britain.
[40:01] Britain has our own current shop,
[40:03] and sometimes we, you know,
[40:06] talk, and sometimes we have a little bit
[40:08] protected trade on our global losses, say.
[40:11] But I don't know yet if there was
[40:15] I think that's great. With the machining aspect, everything that's involved there.
[40:24] S-D-L, there's a lot. Tell me what is our airport view? I know they own quite a large piece
[40:34] of land. What is there view with leasing the land and allowing someone to build a structure
[40:42] do they want because that's something of interest to them or I would
[40:49] Uncrack me up my wrong and I'm just this is my opinion I mean I
[40:58] would
[40:58] think it'd be a good revenue generator. Kirk is very wet. I used to
[41:03] sit on the saltwater here and say they're purple and I'll tell you this that when
[41:07] they did the rebuild they're framing road resources that are almost a third
[41:12] each. Car rental fees and like Uber and Lyft like registrations to be
[41:19] be able to come to the airport if people love it.
[41:21] It's almost a third of their operating equipment.
[41:23] Just the car was all like land lease spaces.
[41:27] The restaurants were retailers inside.
[41:29] The land side, they call it, is another third
[41:32] and then the employment.
[41:34] So I can put a certain amount of fee
[41:36] that you and I paid for to your press.
[41:38] And those are roughly each a third.
[41:41] Ground leases are very important to airports
[41:43] to be able to make a break in.
[41:46] Problem is, we don't have the kind of traffic.
[41:48] We have the second busiest airspace going on, the second busiest foot traffic, the
[41:53] behavior traffic for our airport, so it does make it challenging to be able to get any
[41:58] kind of anchors out there.
[42:00] I think many of us are probably going to get to minor with Professor Barron, the university
[42:05] if he, when he loves to see a conference-ish-style building built there in a terminal, I'm here
[42:12] to support it, but that's easy for me to say for somebody else's money in time.
[42:15] but I think that it's probably going to be one of those things to build it and they'll come but we better have a really great business case.
[42:24] That is the foundation of what Dr. Jones's study is really hinting and pushing forwards, by the way.
[42:30] Because we all know that we only have one rental car company in town and it's not even close to the airport.
[42:36] We don't have a hotel close to the airport. We don't have much meaning space at the airport.
[42:40] And so our report does look functionally very narrowly about the airport.
[42:45] It's got conflict in aerospace.
[42:46] It will always be attractive to the national security needs of Hill Air Force Base,
[42:50] which means by FAA standards, the moment you're on a taxi,
[42:54] you have to have your engine off way.
[42:57] You're burning through jet fuel while you're just sitting there.
[43:01] And one time, with a friend of mine, you love steel flying as a little four-seater.
[43:06] That's all kind of national.
[43:07] We sat there, and I know you can tell because of my stature, I'm a big moment and those are the real things.
[43:15] We were sitting there for 45 minutes. There's no AC without air movement, sitting there waiting because those commercial jets, they have first preference.
[43:23] That air space in that runway, that belongs to the commercial jets first before it does.
[43:28] My friend and his little four-seeker, right, and it's the same thing in Oregon with the earlier four space.
[43:33] But even they had a really nice building with office space and meeting space.
[43:37] And if you've been there, you know, I'm going to force close by to add a lot of other things
[43:41] that you're going to need to walk campus and grab a light to eat.
[43:44] We don't really have anything like that next to ours.
[43:46] So we have some real great opportunities.
[43:49] But my end of the lease is we're going to be the way that we're going to need to
[43:52] to extrude that budget gap.
[43:55] And it's probably going to come from commercial type development first
[43:58] before we get to hang there exceeding a tournament kind of development next.
[44:04] I feel like a good one to go after.
[44:07] So I wanted to tell you a little bit about that, so that's the other thing I'm going to look at.
[44:10] This is just representing one that's fresh, I should be asking that for you.
[44:14] But there's another entity that is very similar to this.
[44:21] Very similar.
[44:22] Akron wants.
[44:27] We know them, they know us.
[44:28] I think that's probably what I need to kind of say about that.
[44:32] It's going to be fantastic.
[44:33] we don't, like we have a first full position, we don't take care of it, we need to go somewhere out, so contracts they've recently been over, so they need to be building out.
[44:43] So some great opportunities.
[44:45] With that, then Mr. Chairman, might I have the opportunity to report in between 10 and 11, just a couple of other quick updates?
[44:53] Sure. I do want to let you know I've got to be, I need to go in 10 minutes, but...
[44:59] Yeah, I do too.
[45:05] So, this will be your 27th. We asked, because we put in the fiscal year 26 report, we'd be
[45:12] for the deadline of August 1st, and our committee is on the message of names, dates, and yesterday
[45:17] is saying, hey, no one that's going to be open, because they have to approve that before
[45:21] the next fiscal year's application of opens. And this is just full transparency. He responds
[45:27] on its body yesterday afternoon said we have several concerns
[45:29] with the management of the grants in that area.
[45:33] I don't know what that means,
[45:34] but it sounds pretty ominous and ambiguous to me.
[45:36] So we ask the staffer when we saw first,
[45:38] in person this morning, what kind of what that means,
[45:41] and they were like, I actually don't know what that means.
[45:44] I think I thought of it as I was on the way down
[45:46] the canyon from Randolph's cover this weekend.
[45:48] I think part of it is fueled in your meeting minutes.
[45:50] It shows the councilman heard and Keegan
[45:52] were still on air after July 1.
[45:54] And that's the end of this week.
[45:56] I think that might be part of it.
[45:59] Because what he said is we shared that with leadership
[46:02] and we'll let you know.
[46:04] And I was like, man, that sounds pretty dark.
[46:06] But I'm also going to absolutely follow the story
[46:08] on something else here that, again, came written
[46:10] to her credits, and she's been with us.
[46:12] It was fantastic.
[46:13] And that is I had Zoom recording the background
[46:17] for the last year, the CEO were meeting.
[46:20] But what I do do right apparently,
[46:22] and I don't know where, it didn't record, record,
[46:24] it tried to scribe up.
[46:26] And that's why the meeting minutes of the last time
[46:28] I brought them didn't have who was there
[46:31] because the transcription is only what transcription
[46:33] is gonna have.
[46:34] It's not the audio recording.
[46:36] And by op-na, the meetings need to be advertised,
[46:39] need to be held, need to be audio recorded,
[46:42] and the minutes proved.
[46:44] That's one hour or so on me.
[46:46] So yesterday, I remember that I had to get my bucket
[46:48] for that, this is me letting you know right now,
[46:52] that probably has something to do with it,
[46:54] but that's what's going on in Canada.
[46:55] Again, boxholder and cash had been a little resistant
[47:00] for their, like, the officials to be okay
[47:02] would not be on board anymore,
[47:04] but that happened for us and our last meeting happened
[47:07] for boxholder and the last meeting rich, though,
[47:10] they were okay with it back at the end of winter, so.
[47:14] That took place, and that wasn't concerning,
[47:16] that was expressed by Mr. Dixon and Dwight Vox here,
[47:19] So I just teamed that up, we'll see, because we've got two weeks until the deadline, September 1st,
[47:26] we're listening to 27 complications that we submitted, and until they accept last year's
[47:31] that doesn't get open, so we have all the approvals we need, we're just going to have to see how
[47:36] that goes. Any questions on that?
[47:42] I apologize, and we will be back. Thankfully, we already have
[47:45] two months track record, it would only be better before we get that museum today, but it
[47:51] is what it is for what we have to do for this through 26. The next update is
[47:57] something you all probably know too, and that is that our EDA representative Trent
[48:01] Thompson has not been any talk for six years, seven years, and he was coming out
[48:07] now that they had some budget for last year and a half. They haven't had much
[48:11] much budget for travel training.
[48:14] And with that not a little bit about him,
[48:15] he wanted to kind of meet several of us,
[48:17] like Brian and I, and these kind of capacities,
[48:19] the curbs throughout the state,
[48:21] because you thought it's part of his territory.
[48:24] So he wanted to hit us pretty easily
[48:26] at the one you thought so.
[48:27] Since so many of us go to that,
[48:29] don't let us view you and see your sitting.
[48:31] So he let us know on a monthly call
[48:33] that he was gonna come out for that.
[48:35] And I twisted his arm and said,
[48:36] hey, any chance that if I, you know,
[48:38] can get you to come up here,
[48:39] I'll show you around before you head down, he said sure.
[48:43] So he came out and he, this is a couple of
[48:45] one days ago, he landed about midday.
[48:48] He got here, Mark was one of those sites
[48:51] that we showed him in Cache Valley on that Monday afternoon.
[48:55] Then we had a meeting later on in the evening
[48:57] with some leaders in the community.
[49:00] I'd actually invited Boxel there in Cache,
[49:02] there's some Boxel there in Rich.
[49:04] Leaders joined us as well.
[49:07] We wanted it to be a small enough group
[49:08] that he could talk and be heard and not make like a big deal about it, and I was also trying to be mindful of my budget,
[49:15] because we set up a nice meeting over at Elements and had their slideshow presentation that I over prepare for,
[49:22] and then ended up not giving because then this partner had some risk, but I talked a lot,
[49:27] and so we could really have a lot of that. And Paul talks a lot, and you all know what Paul is talking about,
[49:32] and others, and so, like, not to make it a longer night, which is kind of a couple of reasons.
[49:37] But you went over what the EED economic development district is, what a sense is, and why our
[49:46] grad governing board being the EED board should probably look a little bit different,
[49:51] and how that can help set us up for other grants that I leave to earlier, where if it's
[49:57] a 40% match, that's a lot of money.
[49:59] If we need a couple of million dollars to extend a water and sewer line from the terminus
[50:04] where it currently is to new parcel that can be developed
[50:06] and somebody's knocking on our door saying,
[50:08] can I like to buy this parcel and creep out our jobs?
[50:12] But I don't want to pay you for eight
[50:15] of the money out to get where it's at to my property
[50:17] and by the way, you're going to make me up size it
[50:19] because you're pretty sure at the moment I put it
[50:21] in the ground, these other parcels are going to develop too.
[50:24] I don't want to pay for all that.
[50:25] And then we, of course, are going to say,
[50:27] well, we just actually are going to pay for it.
[50:29] And so if not for you, it stops where it's at right now.
[50:32] It's good enough.
[50:33] And so then we, of course, used taxing for the financing to usually make that gap work.
[50:38] But EPA grants could also be an option, but then they required 40% of that.
[50:43] So we went over that for the benefit of those elected leaders that were gathered for that
[50:47] evening meeting.
[50:48] And it was very helpful for them to hear from the nurses around the kind of how that works.
[50:51] But it was also kind of an optimistic way if we plan far enough for the future, if we get
[50:56] real community grants that we used for the agriculture study, but now the next time we
[51:00] to apply for it, to extend water as super lines in a very specific place.
[51:04] These are options that become disposable for us, possible for our session.
[51:10] We're disposable tax dollars, but you know what I mean.
[51:12] The next day, we toured a couple of places in Fox Elder, and then he would be on down to the one we touched up.
[51:18] So I just wanted to give you that update.
[51:21] He was very impressed with our area.
[51:23] In the six or seven years since he was in Utah, but he hadn't been up here.
[51:26] And so I was pretty proud to act as your agent to show off our community.
[51:31] And again, Mark hosted us.
[51:35] Brian was at the dinner.
[51:38] Kirk and Mayor Anderson were at the dinner meeting as well.
[51:41] And so just thank you all of you for participating and showing up.
[51:44] As you can tell, he was impressed by how many people we had.
[51:47] I would have turned the time over to you if you wanted to add anything about the tour and his conversations.
[51:53] The dinner conversation.
[51:55] Did you ever end up sharing about the tour?
[51:57] No, well, nice guy.
[52:00] I've worked with Trent.
[52:02] He's been with the EDA and when I was in,
[52:07] over a brag I worked with him probably since,
[52:10] boy 2015, 2016, maybe even a little longer than that.
[52:15] But he was a program manager over there
[52:20] who helped with grant compliance and things before he became an economic development representative
[52:28] for our state. But he's been a great guy to work with. It was, I think it was a really
[52:35] great opportunity to meet with him for dinner. I'm great to introduce him to some of the local
[52:40] leadership and for them to see, you know, just how hard he is working to make sure that our
[52:48] Can you please have a chance to succeed?
[52:52] Yeah, thanks, Sean.
[52:54] Thank you, guys.
[52:55] I mean, you made it possible to show off.
[52:58] So thank you, really appreciate it.
[53:01] That said, Mr. Chairman, that's that item.
[53:04] And then knowing the time, and everybody's raised here
[53:08] still around the song.
[53:10] Last time on your agenda, Mr. Chair?
[53:12] Yeah.
[53:14] When shall we meet again?
[53:16] Sounds like the county council may have some new names
[53:20] for us, or new members for us in a week, would
[53:29] it, I mean we don't need to meet monthly
[53:33] year, I think for a while we've been meeting quarterly, but I wonder, could we have a meeting
[53:41] next month and get the new membership on the role and up to speed on activities and responsibilities?
[53:51] I don't like that very much if you guys are going to, I like to get them on board and feel like I feel like with one of our previous board members, he wondered after three months of being approved, you know, just one of those he had said yesterday because we were working together.
[54:06] And so, with that being said, I think that would be fantastic, and it would really help
[54:10] to bring them on board before the marathon meeting.
[54:14] Now, Mark asked a great question, our mayor, about what it looked like as I talked to
[54:18] these individuals.
[54:19] And I told him at the time that I said, the state really wants us to have a minimum quarter
[54:23] of it.
[54:24] I said, Rich County needs much more freedom than that.
[54:26] Part of that is the way that they were pulling their real county grant money.
[54:29] But frankly, Boxel and their cash are very similar
[54:34] if they know anything about it.
[54:36] In the U.S. they'll agree to see what we can do.
[54:38] And so, the state wants that it is a minimum.
[54:41] But I think with a hint that I'm trying to give softly,
[54:45] just probably try to talk about that over six years.
[54:47] If two of those are immediately, like the review,
[54:50] the 20-year review, the last year for the grant report,
[54:54] and then another one within an altitude for the grant application,
[54:58] there's two of them down. And I know they're all busy, but I think tonight is a
[55:03] perfect example. We round table for two hours every that day, but just things. And I
[55:08] take for granted because I'm talking to you guys all the time in between these
[55:12] meetings. And I take for granted you all probably have this conversation soon, and I
[55:18] thought the questions that were asked back and forth and it just proved me that. I
[55:21] think, you know, that's a perfect example of this and what it's supposed to be. And
[55:25] And when we don't have them, we will get that cross-fall distribution of everything that's going on.
[55:31] So, I know we don't need to have meetings for being safe, but I'm just here to tell you.
[55:34] I mean, of course, that the state would like us to be at least quarter-e, I would suggest maybe we can add those up a little bit.
[55:40] And maybe they're briefer.
[55:43] How's the last week of September?
[55:47] Because we're at the 19th of August right now.
[55:52] So the past of the 19s would probably be better than anything.
[55:59] Yeah, and I did tell him that, hey, right now, this is what we typically mean.
[56:03] It's like 5'36 o'clock.
[56:04] I mean, today's an exception of work.
[56:07] We're here before we end the work day, but oftentimes we end up in the work day.
[56:12] And some of them are like, well, I think I can have them.
[56:15] And I said, listen, with as many members as we're about to get,
[56:18] I probably need to be directed to send out a win as good a poll or be a poll.
[56:22] find out. So I think they're all kind of teed up to know that they'll be able to get some
[56:29] of their input to, you know, but let's be honest, there's some of them that are pointed,
[56:33] but then we choose dates that just don't work for one or two members, that might be out of those,
[56:37] and you know, they show their interest that they're just going on the way.
[56:41] So Mark, back to you, when you guys want to have a look at the weekend of the 28th,
[56:47] is that what you were suggesting?
[56:48] Yeah, so I would just throw it out there as a proposal of September 30th, which is a Wednesday.
[56:56] It may be 4, 430, because if we have lots of people, it could be another 2 hour meeting.
[57:05] I think people would like to be heading home by 6630 at the latest.
[57:12] What about my own business? I was not off to this, but I feel like I'm just talking about myself out of it, but what about a workshop meeting before an official meeting to kind of introduce them to one another?
[57:23] It doesn't have to be the whole work, but I mean, it's really the three of you. If we started officially at 4.30, which can't come to 5.30, I'm not trying to speak to you guys, I was just trying to think about how to accommodate not having an American.
[57:36] If you guys have been doing this for years, you don't need to move on prior to the day of the call.
[57:46] Yeah, I think the 30th would be great. We give everybody something to shoot for.
[57:54] And yeah, if we could do 4-4-30, that would be great. I typically have a conflict at 6-30 on Wednesdays.
[58:07] But we can do a poll to see if that works for everybody.
[58:17] Great. Thank you.
[58:20] Any other comments, business? Shall we adjourn?
[58:31] I don't know where the gavillon there's the gavillon.
[58:39] Don't tell George I was playing with his gavillon.
[58:44] I guess it's not George.
[58:46] That should, Santa, you can send you.
[58:48] Okay.
[58:51] Thanks everybody.
[58:52] It's Danielle again.
[58:53] Just a few minutes.
[58:55] You can see the shoulder.
[58:57] Yeah.
[58:57] I'll look at the gallery on what Golan tells me about that.
[59:01] I might expect a, you know, hand slide.
[59:07] So we'll fire it and we'll fire it back.
[59:11] Wow.
[59:12] Well, yeah.
[59:14] Okay.
[59:15] You need a, um,
[59:16] Can you breathe? Do you need a signature on the policy?
[59:21] So how long are we going to take to take a toilet
[59:24] in that table? Innovation hub.
[59:26] One that you want.
[59:29] I think that if we walk fast and cover the whole building
[59:34] in about 15 minutes.
[59:39] If you want to plan a half hour,
[59:42] that would be great.
[59:43] I don't know who that is, but I think it's something that I'm going to be able to say to you.
[59:51] That's right.
[59:51] It's about everybody.
[59:52] You just got to bend down and kiss one.
[59:54] I see that.
[59:55] That's right.
[59:56] Let's see you guys.
[59:57] See you, Brian.
[59:57] We'll see you on the ground.
[59:58] Thank you.