Agenda
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A. Call to Order and Announcement of a Quorum - Gus E. Pappas, Mayor.
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B. Inspirational Reading and/or Invocation - Brian Witt, Council Member.
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C. Pledges to the Flags - Brian Witt, Council Member.
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Issuance of a proclamation by Gus E. Pappas, Mayor, proclaiming the mo...
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E. Approval of Minutes.
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F. Personal/Audience Comments.
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City Manager's Report to provide information regarding City operations...
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1. Consent Agenda.
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a. Presentation, discussion, and possible action on a recommendation by t...
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Ordinance authorizing publication of notice of intention to issue cert...
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b. Direction to the City Manager to proceed with preparation for and the ...
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I. Community Interest Items from the Mayor and Council.
Transcript
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That's right. All right. Welcome, everybody. Good evening. And welcome to the June 15, 2026
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meeting of the city council of the city of Bel Air. And as I look around, I can happy to
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announce that not only do I call this meeting to order, but I announce that we have a full
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quorum with all members of council present. And so as we always do, as you all know,
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we have our inspirational reading and or invocation and the honor this meeting
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goes to council member Brian Witt. Thank you very much I want to thank everyone
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for coming out tonight especially Julie and baby Jack in the background I
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thought at one point we're gonna have to have a boat.
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Tonight I want to talk
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about two things one two events that are happening this weekend one as you
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might have noticed is Father's Day is coming up and we'll get to the
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other one in a second, but Father's Day.
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Father's Day is a chance to honor the men
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who have helped shaped our lives,
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not only the fathers, but also the grandfathers,
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step fathers, uncles, mentors, coaches, teachers,
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and friends who have helped stepped into a role
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when it was needed most.
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Many of us can think of lessons
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that we learned from our father or father figures.
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Some were taught with words,
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but many were taught through examples.
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We learned the importance of showing up,
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up, keeping our commitments, treating people with respect, and doing the right thing even
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when no one was looking.
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The qualities we admire most in fathers are the same qualities that help build a strong
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community.
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Responsibility, service, patience, sacrifice, and the willing to put others before ourselves.
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Fatherhood reminds us that leadership is often found in small everyday moments.
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It's helping with homework after a long day at work.
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It's attending a game or recital or an event.
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It's teaching a child how to ride a bike to drive a car.
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That's actually coming up, by the way.
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Not with this one.
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Balance a checkbook or simply navigating life's challenges.
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These moments may seem ordinary at the time, but they can leave a lasting impact.
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Leave a lasting impact.
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As members of this community, we benefit every day from fathers and father figures who invest their time, energy and love into raising the next generation.
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Their influence extends far beyond their own families and help shape the character and future of our city.
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Sorry, for those not on the camera, there's a little distraction in the background.
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But the other thing I want to bring up is something, a new holiday for the city, which is Juneteenth.
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Juneteenth is a holiday that has deep Texas roots.
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It was this week in 1865, the word of emancipation proclamation reached Texas, almost two years
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after the fact.
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Juneteenth has become a time for communities to come together through celebrations and
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music and food and fellowship, it reminds us that understanding our history helps
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us appreciate how far we've come and inspire us to continue building communities where
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everyone has the opportunity to thrive. I think it's fitting that both of these observance
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fall so closely together because in their own way they're both about legacy. They're
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both about passing knowledge down to future generations. Whether it's lessons we learn
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from our father or the hard-earned freedoms and opportunities secured by those who
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came before us, we all benefit from the efforts of previous generations. So this
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week, I hope everyone gets to spend some time with their family, enjoy a good meal,
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maybe enjoy a few grown, morally father's day jokes, and for me I hope I get a nap.
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But I also hope we get a chance to reflect on the people and events that
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helped shape our community. With that, happy Father's Day, happy Juneteenth. Please
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Please join me in the Pledge of
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Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America
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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and
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justice for all.
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The Pledge of Allegiance to the United States, one nation under God, one indivisible.
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That isn't a distraction.
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No question about that.
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What a handsome fellow.
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Well, thank you, Brian, and congratulations will be another special Father's Day for you.
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And the driving thing, good luck.
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So we move along on our agenda to the recognition of proclamations, and we have a proclamation
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this evening with regard to National Park and Recreation Month in the city, in recognition
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recognition of the benefits derived from Parks and Recreation resources and encouraging all
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residents to get out this month and enjoy them.
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Whereas Parks and Recreation is an integral part of communities throughout this country,
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including the city of Bel Air, and whereas Parks and Recreation promotes health and
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wellness, improving the physical and mental health of people who live near parks, and
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whereas Parks and Recreation encourages physical activities by providing space for
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popular sports, hiking trails, swimming pools, and many other activities designed to promote
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active lifestyles.
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And whereas parks and recreation is fundamental to the environmental well-being of our community,
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and whereas the U.S. House of Representatives has designated July as National Parks and
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Recreation Month, now, therefore, I guess, Pappas, Mayor of the City of Bel Air, Texas,
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do hereby proclaim the month of July 2026 as National Park and Recreation Month in the City
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of Bel Air, Texas, in recognition of the benefits derived from parks and recreation resources and
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encourage all residents to get out this month and enjoy them and witness wherever I have here
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them to set my hand and cause the seal of the City of Bel Air, Texas to be affixed this 15th
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day of June 2026. And as most of you all know, the next time we meet, July and Parks and Recreation
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Month will have already started and we will have given it a big welcome with our July 4th
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grade and so any further way we do this in anticipation of July. So come forward.
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All
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right, next on our agenda is the approval of the minutes.
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We have the minutes from the City Council of April 13th and April 20th.
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And so is anybody on Council have any comments, corrections, suggestions, what have you?
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Okay, good.
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So by virtue of a nod of a head, I will consider those approved.
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Very well.
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Okay.
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Thank you all for that.
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Tracy, as always.
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Moving right down.
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And we move on to personal audience comments.
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I noticed that we do have one written comment, but I think we also – Mr. Tran, are you
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there?
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Okay.
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I knew that you were thinking about coming and speaking to us about that matter of interest
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to you.
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And even though you've made a written comment, by all means please come forward
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and speak.
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You've got five minutes and we'll tell you to stop when it's ready, okay?
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Well,
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thank you so much. I can assure you it is problematic. I go by it every single day,
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but so I'm not sure what we can do about it, but we certainly will take it up. So thank
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you. And Mr. Strang, you've given us a written comment is that we'll make it a part of the
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record but I presume that I haven't read it entirely yet but I presume everything
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that you said in here you've shared with us okay
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absolutely well thank you so
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much
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is there I don't think there's anybody else I don't think we either have
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any other written comments and I don't think anyone else is signed up is
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anybody else want to speak please of course I
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think that's I think that's
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your pet peeve. Laura Zito, longtime resident, longtime commenter. So I know tonight there's
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something on the agenda about a logo and I know years ago when we were in the other building
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that the logo was a topic of hot contention. And it was also, or Tracy got lots and lots
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of emails because people were directed to her with comments regarding the proposed logo
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after a study was done. At that time, lots of people on social media, on Nextdoor
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in particular, voiced a lot of opinions about the logo that
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was being proposed.
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And I see that we've come full circle,
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and we're back here discussing it again.
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I would have thought that with the interest in the logo
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from people years ago that that might be something that
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would have been put out more so to residents
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It's a comment to weigh in on, you know, and I didn't see anything.
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I happened in on the cultural art board meeting where they were voting on the top three, maybe
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it ended up being four logo designs that they came up with.
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All looked interesting, but I just wondered why this is being put forth to council today
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with a singular design being presented and yet I haven't seen anything in the
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community to get others to be able to be a part of at least voice their opinion.
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So that was a concern of mine.
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Then moving on to the banners that in the
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In the past, there was concern about the cost, and previous counsel did not fund that.
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They've now been funded.
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I had the opportunity to see them in place as I drove this weekend through Bel Air on
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Bel Air Boulevard.
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They look nice.
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They look nice, and especially coming along with the 250th anniversary of the founding
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of America.
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I think it's timely.
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Finally, on my drive downtown to work, the city of Houston has some banners up as well.
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And one thing I noticed that
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That when there was a tree whose limbs interfered with being able to see the banner, they simply
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didn't put it up, even though there was a post for it.
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And one thing I did notice was a banner that we have up that is being obstructed by tree
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limbs.
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And so we've gone to the effort to purchase these and to have them in place.
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I think they all need to be seen. So if there's something that can be done, I'm not sure
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if it's a residence or a commercial property, but there are tree branches that interfere with that banner being seen.
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So I'm wondering if
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somehow someone at the city can go and make sure that these are all visible, highly visible, and
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would ask that
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that be done. Thank you.
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Well, thank you, Laura. Appreciate it. Is there anyone else that wants to speak? Okay.
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Well, then we will then move on to our reports and presentations, and we start generally with
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our city manager, and tonight is no different. So, Sharon?
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Good evening. I'm pleased Mayor and Council to present tonight's city manager report.
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We wanted to start with a note about the weather. Of course, it's been raining for
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or anybody who's been outside, inside listening,
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you can tell that there's a lot of rainfall
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that's already come and that's predicted to come.
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So we wanted to assure you in the community
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that our emergency management team
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is watching the weather closely.
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We are receiving updates daily and more often than that
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to make sure we stay on top of that.
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And we are prepared to respond if needed.
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We wanted to remind the community to drive
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with caution, never drive in high water,
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flooded roadways, turn around, don't drown.
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Part vehicles in your driveway or in your garage and bring in small items that
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could blow away in strong winds and stay tuned to your local media for updated
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forecasts. So we will be sharing information and the best way for you to
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receive information from the city of course is to stay updated through all
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of our media. You can sign up for Prepare Bel Air and notify me alerts.
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You can check our website for current information and you can follow our
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social media platforms on Facebook, X, Instagram, and Nextdoor.
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We wanted to welcome a couple new staff members.
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We have Mario Scott, who's our equipment operator with our Public Work Solid Waste Division.
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We also have Jessica Lerma, a project manager with our Capital Projects Group, so we're
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really happy to have them.
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We also wanted to share with you information about a couple of our staff members who
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received certifications recently.
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Carl Netzel, our fire captain, obtained his Fire Instructor 3 certification from the Texas Commission on Fire Protection.
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And Austin Wilson received his credentials as a paramedic. It's advanced paramedic credentials.
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From the city's medical director, he's one of our firefighter paramedics.
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So we wanted to acknowledge that because those folks are the ones who keep us safe.
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And those credentials mean that we are prepared to provide that high level of service to this community that they expect and deserve and that we want to deliver.
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A few upcoming events to share with you, of course, you mentioned Juneteenth. We will
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be closed on Juneteenth, that's June 19th, and Friday, July 3rd, both for Independence
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Day. City offices will be closed, no solid waste or recycling pickup. Bel Air City Library
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will be closed, but the Bel Air Recreation Center will be open on both holidays. Celebration
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of Independence Parade and Festival on Saturday, July 4th, 9 a.m. to noon. The parade
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The parade starts at 9 a.m. at South Rice and Valerie, that's the same location that
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we have been in the last several years, and ends at South Rice and Linden.
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The festival begins after the parade at the Great Lawn and Lofton Park, and for more
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information you can contact our Recreation Center.
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Also upcoming, we have our dive-in movie night on Thursday, August 6th at 7 p.m. at
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the Bellaire Town Square Family Aquatic Center.
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The featured movie this year is How to Train Your Dragon.
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You can bring your family friends, towels and get ready for an unforgettable night.
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Those are really fun events for you and your family.
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Tickets are coming soon. You can visit LRParks.org for more information.
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Also, another really fun event for families are cardboard boat regatta and duck derby.
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This year they'll be combined.
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That occurs on Saturday, August 22nd from 9 a.m.
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and that's when the boat regatta begins and at 10 a.m. the duck derby.
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Both will take place at Evergreen Pool at 4500 Evergreen Street
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And anyone can participate in the cardboard boat regatta.
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All you need is some cardboard and duct tape.
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And the duct tape might even be optional, I'm not sure,
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but definitely cardboard.
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You can purchase your ducks at wearevergreen.org
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backslashduckderby.
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And you can also contact the Bel Air Rec Center
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for more information.
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So some agenda items that we're prepared to bring to you,
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and these may make the July 6th agenda.
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We are still working on them, so if they don't,
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they'll just have to go pushback.
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But we've got an appropriation of metro funds for streets maintenance to bring that into the current budget of public works
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Some amendments to chapter 2 article 7 for boards and commissions related to our workshop that we had last week and
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also citation authority for our fire code violations seeking permission to
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Authorize our fire marshal to issue citations for non-compliance with the code
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Then on June 13th. We'll be doing a workshop regarding user fees
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These are our non-enterprise fees for our other services that we provide through Parks of Rec and
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through development services. We have a consultant, Will Dan, who also prepared our enterprise fees
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a few years back. You may remember them. They'll be here on the 13th to provide that information.
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Then looking ahead on July 20th, we'll be presenting the fiscal year 2027 proposed budget.
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We'll also have a public hearing called for fiscal year 2027 proposed budget,
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the truth and taxation information, as well as an agreement with Harris Galveston
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Subsidence District for the groundwater credits that we do annually and Board
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and Commission appointments. And so with that, that concludes my report and I'm
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happy to take any questions you may have. All right, does anybody have any
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questions for the city manager?
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None. Wow, look at you. Ross, I feel it
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coming. Yeah, and I would just note in regard to our speaker's question on
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On the intersection of Fornes and South Rice, folks should be aware that as part of the proposed
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development of that location, the developer was working with the city of Houston to try
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and widen South Rice at that location, moving street lights and so on.
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The actual widening has not happened yet, but as the mayor said, we're very aware
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of how narrow that street is.
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What's very interesting there is that north of Fornes is City of Houston.
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And so it's taken a lot of effort from multiple parties to start the process of trying to
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get that fixed.
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But I don't know if you had any updates on where that stands, beyond that it's still
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working its way through.
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No, I think you're right, Council Member Gordon, that is a complicated project.
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But now that I have that information, we'll take that back to both our public works
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folks as well as our development services folks to understand kind of that the relationship
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with Houston and the developer and who's responsible for what to make sure that we if we have a
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safety out there that issue that we can address as a city that we address it or if it's Houston's
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issue to address that we follow up with them and try to stay diligent. So we appreciate
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you bringing that forward. If I may. Yes. Council member. I would also add that
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yes you're right. The curves here are fairly recent because fairly recently I think
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They updated the traffic signals, they were working on that box, and they also were working
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on the wheelchair access, but yeah, it's been done very recently.
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But it is city of Houston, that intersection, that part, that belongs to the city of Houston.
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We were told years ago that the city of Houston right away is all the way to the
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other side of that sidewalk on the east side.
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So that's why City of Bel Air is not doing any major construction out there.
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It would be lovely.
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I did advise.
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I did ask the Public Works Director if he would at least notify City of Houston that there is an issue.
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Yeah, I think the curb is constantly being repaired based on everything I can see as I go.
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Yeah, it's very obvious because all the trucks, particularly with those big huge trailers on them are going right over it.
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And that's why you see all the tire tracks there because every day that happens.
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I sit in that left turn lane and cringe just, you know, please don't.
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I'm even thinking about just moving in my mirrors just so, you know, anyway.
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No, it's a problem and the development does require there to be some expanded lanes over
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there if they ultimately get to that point.
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So maybe there'll be some relief then, but thanks so much.
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We'll say what we can.
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I recently got a request for somebody that should be in Bel Air, but they're not.
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They're in the city of Houston, and they wanted some help on some speed bumps, and
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And unfortunately, we really couldn't do much about it, although, you know, we can advise
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or we can make a recommendation or we can ask for some help, but oftentimes they've got
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their own agenda and timetable and budgets that dictate their actions.
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So any of that.
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But thank you for bringing that up and we'll do what we can.
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Can I bring something up?
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Of course.
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I don't know if this is the appropriate time, but something that's been happening
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in our neighborhood, and I just came to my mind, so I just want to ask if this is common.
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We have been seeing a lot of squirrels that are dead. Yeah, it's in a cat. And so some weird
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things have been happening enough that the neighbors are commenting on the chat. So
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is that something? We are having a lot of construction. Is that something that commonly
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happens when construction is going on, or do you think that someone is poisoning these
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Poor little animals or how do we go about finding out what's going on because it's like six or seven. Hmm. It's a lot
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We do have Hawks
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I mean, I have no idea. Okay. Are they falling from trees? I mean is it
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People are just finding them. Yeah finding them. Yeah, I have a comment
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Okay, I do know this associate with a construction site. I beg my neighbor not to put out
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rat poison. She didn't like the dumpsters. They throw their food in the
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dumpsters as well as everything else and had a rat problem. I begged her not to
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put out the rat poison and unfortunately I had a cat who liked to eat the rats.
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So he's gone. He was an older cat so I don't blame her. He could have
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had kidney failure for all I know but yeah it's very likely that someone
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put out poison and if they put out poison for the rats then the cat
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we'll get it. I also think there's just been a boon of squirrels. I know in my
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yard now I have eight that live in my front yard and they've started sitting
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on my porch swing like there's so many of them. Yeah they talk to me too but I
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think it's also possible just that we had a boom of animals because
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yeah it's I've never seen as many squirrels as I've seen on our block
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in years. Well when the wind blows the possums fall out of the trees and so
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you see them in the streets as well at that point.
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No, that's a real thing.
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That's a real thing.
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Sad, true, but that's a real thing.
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Now, we're just playing with the jacket.
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None of that's good enough.
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So anything else by anybody for the city manager?
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Okay. I know that we've got our July 4th parade coming and I know that all of us will be involved
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in that to the extent that we're here. I know that we have a time capsule and Cheryl tells
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me that time has not been good to the capsule.
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But we did find it. We found it. So anyway,
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way, we're working on that. We're working on that. With regard to, you know, with regard
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to Laura's comment about the signs there, yeah, it'd be nice if all of them were seen.
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I mean, I guess it's something that I'm not sure exactly. Laura, if you could pass along
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where you saw, where you saw that you couldn't see it, you know, to give that to Sharon
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or somebody and maybe they can go take a look at it, or Cheryl. Cheryl. So, okay,
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Okay, thank you for letting us on that.
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All right, anything else?
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Well, great, then we will move on.
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I think that's it for reports on the agenda tonight.
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We'll move into our consent agenda,
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and we've only got one item on our consent agenda,
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and as all of y'all know,
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it seems kind of silly with one item,
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but anyway, we don't really debate this one.
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It's just simply an up or down vote unless somebody else wants to say, hey, let's discuss
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it and vote on this one.
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But it's a recommendation from Capital Projects to award bid number 26-006 bonds for better
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Bel Air 216 Group A Phase III water and wastewater improvements project to ISJ Underground Utilities
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LLC.
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Could we do more of that in an effort not to exceed 3,941,163, and on the adoption of
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an ordinance authorizing City Manager to execute a construction agreement with ISJ Underground
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Utilities LLC for the replacement of existing water distribution lines with approximately
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24,120 linear feet of new water lines in the size ranges of 2 inch to 12 inch in diameter
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along with fire hydrants, valve services, and all labor equipment materials and incidentals
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required for the project in an amount not to exceed $3,941,163.
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So does anybody want to separately discuss that item?
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No?
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All right.
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than all those in favor of our loan consent.
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Please signify by raising your right hand. Thank you very much. It passes unanimously.
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I would just say there are big things to city staff. You guys put together a fantastic packet
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of information on the whole procurement process and bidding. It was really excellent, so thank you.
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Right. I think you did send out, Tracy, you did send out a little notification on that that we went with regard to picking the lowest bid on that as well.
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so thank you for that as well. Okay, we move on to number two, adoption of
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ordinances and resolutions, but before we do that, or do any of y'all have a
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problem if we move up the local discussion before? Okay, it's set on
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number three in the A, items for individual consideration, but let's
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let's go ahead and move that one up and we'll take that one first out of
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turn and with that, what we're talking about is a presentation, discussion, and possible
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action on a recommendation by the Beller Culture and Arts Board for a conceptual design of
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a city logo.
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So anyway, hi Cheryl.
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Hi.
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Okay.
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Cheryl Bright.
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Tell us about this.
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Yeah, Community Relations Administrator.
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And I'm here to introduce Gay May you, the chair of the Culture and Arts Board and
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Christy Coffey who will be presenting the conceptual logo to you and asking for feedback
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and direction.
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So, here they are.
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Oh, and it will also be available for questions after.
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Hello.
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I got to get organized here.
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Let me just make room for Christy.
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You want to come over here?
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I don't think that one is working.
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Good
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evening.
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Mayor Pappas, city council, city staff.
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I will tell you I'm thrilled to be here and I know Christy is too. This is something we've worked on for a while
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I know the city has worked on it for a while and so we're thrilled to be here to make this presentation
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Now Christy is one of our board members, but she's also one of our creative people her creativity and dedication
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Have been instrumental in creating this logo concept
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And this is a concept of the logo and that's what we're presenting is the concept of logo
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We have a ways to go yet
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Tonight we're not simply discussing a logo, we're discussing how Bel Air presents itself to residents, visitors, and future generations.
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So purpose of today's discussion, the purpose of our discussion is pretty straightforward.
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We want to share the logo concept that we've developed, explain why we believe it reflects Bel Air's identity, and receive feedback on the proposed path forward.
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The recommendation is a result of research, discussions, lots of discussions, and thoughtful consideration by the culture and arts board.
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Our goal is to create a symbol that honors Belair's history, but also representing the community we are today and the future we hope to build.
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I'll get this right in a minute. There you go.
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Yeah. So why does the city need a logo? A city logo is more than a graphic. It serves as a recognizable visual identity or the community. It creates consistency across city communications. It helps residents and visitors instantly recognize Belair and reinforces our community pride.
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Many cities have logos, and they've come inseparable from their identity.
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San Francisco has its cable cars, New Orleans has its street cars.
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Belair has a story of its own, and we believe that story deserves a symbol that is uniquely ours.
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With that in mind, I'm going to turn it over, turn the presentation over to Christie,
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who's going to discuss what a city logo should represent and how we arrived at our recommendation.
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This
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is the top button, right? That's what I've been hinting.
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Thank you. They're the creative part in the tech.
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Okay, all righty.
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So what should Bel Air's logo represent?
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Simply put, it should tell our story.
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It should tell the story of our history and the qualities of our city
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that our residents value the most.
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It should be memorable.
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It should be unique.
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It should be simple to appoint.
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It should be appropriate for municipality and it should be a visual symbol that incites a sense of pride amongst our residents.
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And as we began this process, we asked ourselves a few questions.
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How can we capture some of these elements in a single identity? That is a challenge.
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So we have our history and our heritage, our trees and green space that residents really value, our community character,
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and also something that while including history is a forward-looking vision for the city of Bel Air.
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And as our city continues to involve what visual symbol can be a constant and really
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stand the test of time, so we're not back up here every 10 years or so revisiting this.
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So to be a good steward of public funds, the Culture and Arts Board, instead of recommending
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commissioning news research around this, we looked to some of the research conducted
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by residents as part of prior initiatives.
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Many of you remember in 2016, there was a visioning Bel Air study as part of a beautification
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effort conducted by Terrain Studio, 2017-2018 rebranding initiative conducted by Design
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By Principal.
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Sorry.
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Oh, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Design By Principal, 2023, there was a community survey done as part of the research for
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the Comprehensive Plan, and then in 2024, a citizen survey.
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So some consistent themes emerged.
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Residents repeatedly described Bel Air
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as a true small-town community in the heart of Houston,
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a city with beautiful tree-lined streets
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and iconic live oak arches, a community known
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for safety, strong neighborhoods, and civic pride,
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a place with a strong sense of history and identity.
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It was interesting, the 2024 Citizen Engagement Survey
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They found that 78% of Bel Air residents
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believe that Bel Air is better than surrounding communities.
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And I think that's meaningful because it's not just saying
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that 78% of people are satisfied to live here.
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They truly believe that Bel Air is superior
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to surrounding communities.
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They chose to live here.
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They continue to choose to make a home here.
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And so that alone shows this overwhelming sense
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of civic pride.
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We looked at neighborhoods like Westview
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or Southside Place that do have visual representations
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and a seal or logo.
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And there's been some things like state loyal local campaign where we've had a city of Bel Air up here next to those and we've just had a typography
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So I'm overjoyed that you all have asked the arts board trees to revisit this and
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So let's see practical design considerations. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I was just showing in the logo. Oh, sorry
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I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. So practical design considerations and these are really important as far as
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the logo is not just being an attractive visual identity, but are they effective, are they
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functional, are they cost effective for the city? And I think there's probably no better
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space than this building because you will see, you know, a logo would be on an agenda,
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business cards, staff shirts, outdoor signage, vehicles. I mean, there's a million different
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applications just within this building alone of different ways the logo will need to
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represent itself. So it should be able to present them all in one color, have enough
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contrast, because one color is going to be a lot more cost-effective than four
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color. And most of the time in printouts and things like that you will need a one color logo.
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So not too many gradients, not too many colors. Should work on
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the signage vehicles, embroidery, digital media, the website, city social media,
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city communications, our public works vehicles, anything like that.
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Must remain readable at small sizes. So if you're seeing a business card
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or a smaller piece of paper, social media icons,
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you should still be able to recognize
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the city of Bel Air logo and then avoid too much detail
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because that will make it harder
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and more expensive to reproduce.
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We want something that is cost-effective
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to reproduce at scale.
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And we don't want something that's too trendy
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that we are revisiting it every few years.
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All right, now we can,
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the next one, did you want to go over that?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay, so I actually hadn't seen some of these before.
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Cheryl showed them in our last
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Coltern Arts Board meeting.
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I'd seen the prior city logo and some of the things we looked at when we were conducting research on the cookbook
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And many of these former seals I have not seen before and it's kind of interesting to look at them because from farther away
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There's certain elements that you really can't make out
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I mean or that are not unique to the city of Bel Air and they some of them have common elements of municipalities such as people trees buildings
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places of worship and
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And then some of them it's really honestly hard to tell
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what's there at all. So it's a good time to kind of revisit this project. So we
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were thinking, as a board, what symbol is more unique to Bel Air? What kind of sets
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us apart in the Houston region? And so one symbol that's unique to
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Bel Air that we found within all of the past studies I mentioned on the
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earlier slide is the trolley. The trolley, for the most part, made it
[39:46]
possible for us to connect to greater downtown to grow as a community for our
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businesses to grow. When William Wright Ball when established Bell Air 1908
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the trolley connected it connected residents to downtown and help support
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the growth of Bell Air which is one of Houston's earliest planned residential
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communities. And so now we're gonna go forward to the next slide which I will
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Just the top button.
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Top button.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So we worked on probably 50, I mean at least a minimum of logo concepts.
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We are asked to come forward with one concept, not a final logo, a concept as far as what
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elements we recommend be included in this logo.
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The trolley.
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That was, again, one of the most enduring elements and also an element that came up
[40:35]
again and again and again in our past research. It really isn't just a decorative piece on
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Bel Air Boulevard. It kind of is why Bel Air exists today. The live oak arch is something
[40:45]
that residents continue to identify as one of the most beautiful elements within our
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city. So we have the, and then how the trolley is enclosed to communicate a sense of safety
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because residents value safety and that's one of the top reasons that they love living
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in this city, the city does a tremendous job with public safety.
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So we recommended a main trolley element enclosed by a live oak arch with the city typography
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and year of establishment around as our primary, I'm sorry, a recommendation.
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And why we like it, we feel that it's unique to Bel Air.
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There's not many cities that have a trolley car in their logo.
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It's definitely different than any logo you would see in the surrounding area.
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It's distinctive, recognizable, it symbolizes connectivity, accessibility, community, and
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it's forward-facing progress.
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So it reflects really both our origins and our future, and it's something that is not
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going to change.
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This trolley car is as an element of really one of the founding distinctive icons of
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the city is something that will not change over time.
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So, it connects us to where we came from by providing a symbol of what moves us forward.
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And then, sorry, I keep forgetting that I'm doing this, I'm sorry.
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Well, I don't want to do it because I'm not sure when you're ready.
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No, no, no, you're good.
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Okay, so, Gay, thank you for putting this together.
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She put together a variety of mock-ups, if you will, because it's really important
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to see how a logo will look on different pieces of material.
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What I like to do is print a bunch of them side by side, hang them, look at
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them from far away because the farther back you move, you lose certain elements depending
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on how complex they are. So these, again, are just mock-ups of how this logo could look
[42:34]
on items such as, you know, city hats, shirts, signage, website, all of that. So because,
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you know, Bel Air means so much to so many people who call it home, our visual identity
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really should be, you know, more of a logo. It should be a symbol that residents recognize
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and one that they are proud of.
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Thank you.
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Sorry.
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I do want to point out the shirt with the big one.
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We aren't saying that the logo should be that big on a shirt.
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I just want to make sure y'all knew that.
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And then the other thing I would like to point out on the lower right-hand corner,
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there's a logo and then there's also like a cutout.
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Those wouldn't be on the same sign,
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but you can see how the logo would look if it's the logo.
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And you can kind of see how it looked if it was just a cutout of a metal.
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So we just wanted you all to get an idea of how it would reproduce.
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Okay, so tonight what we're requesting, we're requesting approval to move forward with the logo design concept
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and to authorize funding of up to $25,000 for professional design services.
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After approval, we would hand this off, the implementation of the new logo to city staff.
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And based on your feedback, city staff may coordinate community engagement and gather stakeholder input.
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A professional brand designer would then refine the approved logo concept,
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translate it into a final design package suitable for implementation across city communications,
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signage and materials.
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So just, oh sorry, I got to press both of them. They aren't
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connected. All right. And these are just some closing thoughts. We chose, as
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Christy has already mentioned, we chose the trolley as a centerpiece for our
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logo because it did help connect Bel Air to opportunity and played a
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defining role in the city's early growth. By incorporating this historic symbol
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into our logo, we honor Belair's past, celebrate its unique identity, and create
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a timeless image that can represent our community for generations to come. And
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we are very keen on trying to
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We're working on trying to come up with something that would be lasting. So, again, I mean, we
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hope 10 years from now, we still have the logo assuming it's the one that's adopted.
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So, thank you for your kind attention. Questions, feedback?
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All right. Well, thank you so much, Gaye Christie. Thank you for all the work that
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y'all put into this. I know that y'all came a few months back and had several different,
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a few different options similar but a few different options my first question
[45:32]
right off the bat was was was this the color scheme and what have it was this
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one of them one of the ones that you'll showed to us okay how did you guys narrow
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it down and say hey this was the one we like versus some of the other ones that
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were there well we had a lot of discussions about it and we had all the
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ones we liked had the trolley in it let me just say that and there's lots
[45:52]
of different ways to display the trolley we like this one because the
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trolleys going forward, which indicates progress.
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We wanted to show some progress, not just tie it to history,
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but tie it to what the city can become down the road.
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Would you like to add anything?
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We did try, Professor.
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We did lay out a bunch of other logos.
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Some had people, some had a water tower,
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some had gazebo, and when you would lay them all out
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next to each other and kind of move farther back
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and then also muck them up on various materials,
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some of them became almost a little too busy
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to reproduce, well, and you kind of almost lost the local center, in a sense.
[46:32]
So the trolley, again, and we went back through the research and it showed that, you know,
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the trolley was really something that people identified with historically, sense of pride,
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and then the live vote canopy.
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And adding park elements, green space elements that people also really enjoyed, did make
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it too busy.
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the people, I think there is an issue, potentially in the last logo, about having a four-person
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family or different family types, not necessarily representing all of Bel Air. So this is how
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we ended up with this.
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Go back, if you wouldn't mind, to your process or what you're asking us. There you go.
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We're going to process the next step.
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So tonight, are you asking us for the actually approve this or just simply say go to the
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next step?
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Well, I think going to the next step would indicate approval.
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That's what we're saying.
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We don't feel like we can go to the next step until we have some type of direction
[47:36]
from City Council.
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Well, the reason I ask is that, and I get that, and that makes perfect sense, but
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But you've got community workshop and stakeholder input on the third line.
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So my question would be, what are you looking to accomplish through that process?
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So the way this works or the way I was explained, the way they explained it to me, is that
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our job was simply to put forth a recommendation.
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From that point over, city staff would take over and they would do the implementation.
[48:06]
Part of that implementation could be a community workshop or stakeholder input.
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So that would come after we agree on something to present to them.
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And overall, it's a kind of overall direction on the concept, not a final logo.
[48:22]
So we're not necessarily looking for city council approval.
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This is going to be the city of Bel Air logo.
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This, we're looking for like feedback on the concept as far as the trolley, the canopy,
[48:35]
which then after this point, we're also looking for approval for funds
[48:39]
that the city would manage as far as going to a graphic designer who would then develop
[48:44]
iterations of this logo. Then those iterations would come to the community in the workshop
[48:49]
period as a final logo is selected during that part.
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And I appreciate that. It seems to me just having been part of this historically and
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particularly some of the efforts in the past, there was a fair amount of work that was
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done with regard to the issue of replication, how would it appear on trucks, what it would
[49:12]
look like. It seems like there had to be a little bit of work involved in those to determine
[49:18]
whether or not this could work. And so it sounds to me like, and I want to be clear
[49:22]
because I think it's important for us, is if we said, okay, we like this well enough
[49:29]
to where go forward make all that possible to see if we could even if we
[49:36]
could even actually implement it. That's what I'm hearing and then at the same
[49:41]
point time after you get all of that input then of course if it works
[49:46]
ultimately then that would come back to us and say yes let's do it. Does that
[49:52]
make sense? Yes, but I just wanted to add we did show this to a professional
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a professional graphics person who does logos and a lot of different like for, I mean, like
[50:03]
HEB and some Coca-Cola.
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And we showed it to her and she said that this should be very easy to replicate.
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We didn't go so far as to get her to do anything because we didn't want to extend any funds
[50:16]
until we knew this is the direction we wanted to go in.
[50:19]
And again, you know, when you get a professional involved in that, maybe the colors are
[50:23]
a little different, maybe things are a little different, whatever.
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but like Christy's saying, this is the concept.
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These are the features that we want to have in it,
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which is the trolley and the trees.
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And the amount we're proposing that we've asked for
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would go towards development of a brand standards guide.
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So all the pieces you referenced, Mayor,
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and those would be part of that.
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So they would, the designer, once they refine the logo,
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and we've heard from the community,
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this is a final logo, that final logo would then be taken
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And it would be put into a pamphlet, a PDF document of,
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here's exactly how it's going to look on a city t-shirt,
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on city vehicles, what scale,
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the exact pantone colors,
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the space that it should reproduce
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so you don't get too close to the edge.
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All of those things will be part of a brand standards guide
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which is very typical of what any city would undertake
[51:16]
when adopting a logo or any kind of branding.
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So that fee, the 25,000, that would cover all of that.
[51:22]
Oh, yeah, that's the amount we have in mind is up to $25,000 would we need a budget amendment for that?
[51:30]
Or what what is where do we stand on that? I know we apportioned some certain amounts of money
[51:37]
Toward the signage and sort of the entrance way markers and things such as that is would this be within that
[51:44]
I think staff has been discussing that in conjunction with knowing this project was coming and with the budget preparation
[51:49]
under way. We were going to tentatively schedule into the budget so that the funds would be
[51:54]
there on October 1st, some to cover this graphic designer. So depending on the direction, just
[52:00]
as the art board said, if council is agrees to the concept and the features of the logo,
[52:06]
then we can advance that come October 1st. And I don't know where all the public engagement
[52:13]
depending on the direction of council and what that might look like, but we could
[52:16]
be undertaking some activities before them, but that was our thought.
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Of course, if Council decided they wanted to go ahead and move, it is June now.
[52:24]
We couldn't move that, you know, it would take, we would get a couple months' jump,
[52:27]
but we could always amend the budget now.
[52:30]
If we needed to.
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If you would like to, correct?
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Okay.
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Okay, gotcha.
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Council Member Gordon.
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Well, first off, I think you guys said the most important word, which is pride.
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And I am very, very proud of you guys, of the work that the Culture and Arts Board
[52:45]
did. It was a community effort by the community, for the community, and I just really couldn't
[52:51]
be more impressed with the process you guys employed, the ideas you came up with, and
[52:56]
the recommendation that you have. And I go back to pride. When you see something like
[53:01]
that, it makes you proud to be in Bel Air. It makes you excited to be in Bel Air. I
[53:07]
think we run in fear from our logo for too long instead of embracing something that
[53:13]
That is modern, that is beautiful, that is crisp, that is simple, that's forward looking.
[53:18]
So I'm just really pumped.
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I think this is a fantastic step in the right direction.
[53:23]
I for one think the decided upon logo is great.
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I do have concerns with a design by community approach because it's really hard to please
[53:36]
every single person and if you take a hundred elements from a hundred different people
[53:40]
and try and merge them together, it becomes a nightmare and so I think what you guys have
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done is given us such a big head start. You've synthesized it all. You've got us somewhere
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that I think the community can really step behind it and have that pride in it and
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so I'm just very excited. I don't have a lot of comments. I think it's beautiful.
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I think it reproduces and wayfinding, all this stuff. It's something that if I were
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driving down the street and I entered Bel Air and saw that on a pedestal, I'd
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be like, man, our city is on top of it.
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We are a great place to live.
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And it's just very exciting.
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So I'm really pumped about it.
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I think it's time for us to do this.
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I think you see that community pride across the board.
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Our banners, like we talked about, we're in Bel Air now.
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You see you're in Bel Air.
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You feel you're in Bel Air.
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You have pride to be in Bel Air.
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I think this just continues that piece.
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For me, I think that number one,
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I think the hiring of a professional, very important, you know, it's easy to try, number
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one we should say thank you Christy for all the work that you've done.
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You've done so much pro bono work for this, but that being said I think hiring somebody
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to make sure that we have the right brand guidelines that everything works out perfectly
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that the implementation is seamless is really important.
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So it seems like a lot of money but it's really worth it because it'll be there
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across everything we do.
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So I support the money as far as the process goes. I really like the way that we laid this out
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I think we do need to give
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The opportunity for feedback what I don't necessarily want to do is open up for a let's start from scratch again
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Because you know, I think we're really heading in the right direction
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So at this point I think you know having an opportunity to be able to see it people to comment on it
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You know if we have feedback that pushes us in a different direction
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So be it, you know, but we've got a guiding light here that I think is perfect and I'm just really excited. So thank you guys
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I'm really really excited. We're excited to
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Councilmember Lewis and then I'll go over there. Oh
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Well, thank you. Councilmember Gordon. Well said very much. Well said
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I do like the logo as it stands as it is and I speak from the position a unique position here
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I have a BFA in studio arts and graphic design, and I am not nearly as talented as you are.
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You have done, I couldn't conceive, I mean my training was how to design logos, and
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I couldn't do this.
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This is terrific.
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I am a little bit leery about the professional brand designer.
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I don't want to see this thing redesigned.
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I like it.
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Now, you know, if colors works, the stitching, you know, as far as the stitching on shirts
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and all, that's another issue, but I like it.
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And again, yes, I agree, yeah, we want to present this very well to the community, but
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I'm not putting it out there.
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We have been through years of talking about bringing back the old logo.
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and the thing is that you know there was a church and there was a bungalow house
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which many people don't live in bungalow houses anymore some of us do and what
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and then the small family you know and it's different now Bella it's just it's
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just better and I like I like the concept I like what it looks like I like
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the trolley, the connection to history, I like the way you presented it, and hang on
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to that. We're not going to sell that out. A professional can do whatever he has to do
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to make it reproducible, but I wouldn't change it. And no, I wouldn't go back to the – I
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would rather present it to the community and say, this has council's endorsement,
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this is our history, and this is our green canopy, just as you presented it to us.
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And I wouldn't open it up like you like councilmember Gordon said I wouldn't open it up to
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People who want to bungle a house or you know something else on there
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Thank you
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Well, I love it. I and I can even tell by the way you're talking about it
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I see you know what you're talking about the terminology you're using like I'm like well
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I could I just could hear every word you said and I was like just so amazed by it
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But I think you are nailing,
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you're hitting the nail on the head
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because one thing that keeps coming up
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even from like people from my industry
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that live in this city, they'll call me,
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they'll say, the trolley has a broken window.
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Can we repaint the trolley like it's important to people
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that the trolley looks good?
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I personally wanna bring the trolley back.
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Sharon knows that.
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I want it to like transport people between our businesses.
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Go to the 401.
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One, if you get drunk, the trolley will take you home.
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I mean, that's what I want to see happen.
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But I also totally agree.
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They never over-serve.
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What are you talking about?
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Right?
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Have you ever been there with the winnings?
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I'm sorry.
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OK, so I also agree on the community.
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I feel like you guys did your homework.
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We've done this 1,000 times.
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We keep going back to the community.
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The one thing that keeps coming back up is the trolley, the trees, the green space.
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I'm not saying don't take it to the community.
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Laura, I agree.
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We can do it in a way, but we've kind of taken it to the community,
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and we're trying to take that information and do something with it.
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We will get lost in a thousand opinions if we try to get too many people's thoughts on this.
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And I feel like you are the expert.
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You guys yeah, you're hardly experts you're taking it one level up to say like let's take it to one more expert
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And it may not be the full $25,000 but personally, I know I'm gonna I'm gonna say give you the money because I want to see
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This happen. I also love it as an entry point. I really like the metal
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Carby whatever that's called like on a on something like that that looks so good
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So, I am 100% supportive and I
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I'm even supportive of giving you guys money, so thank you guys. Y'all did a great job, really.
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Mayor Broadtem. Thank you, Your Honor. So last week in our
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board meeting for this group, I think I told each one of them how awfully pride, proud I
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was of them. That board consists of some very, very talented people who, if you looked
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at their CVs, you would be impressed at the people who are on that board. It's amazing
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what their professional lives are.
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This is a job that you guys spent a lot of time working on.
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You didn't just walk up here to council meeting,
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oh, let's do something Monday night.
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No, you guys spent a lot of time working on this, a lot.
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You looked at the history of our city,
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you looked at what has been done in the past.
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I'm just very proud of what you've come to the council with.
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And I think when our residents see the plan,
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It's not found, there are some other steps that I know you've clearly articulated, but
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at least you've come up with a plan that really looks good.
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And it's a result of a lot of hard work.
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In between the cultural arts board doing the cookbooks and doing our last show in the
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Presale Park and working on another one, I tell you what, this is amazing what you
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guys have accomplished.
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Well done.
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Thank you, Your Honor.
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Thank you.
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No, I just hope you all just take a minute and just appreciate the feedback you're hearing.
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I mean, I know, like you've heard, this is not something that happened in one night.
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It happened over a long period of time.
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But if you listen to what everyone's saying, including myself, I think this is phenomenal.
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And I think that when we submit it to the public, I mean, we have 100% of support.
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No, but I think there's a vast majority of people will appreciate what y'all have done
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and and how you've hit all the marks so I just say thank you and I hope you
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appreciate the goodwill that you're you're hearing from from up here you
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appreciate it thank you all so much yeah thank you and I'll make sure that the
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entire board hears all your comments so thank you councilmember Thurberman and
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I'm I agree with everybody so far the one thing again as a newcomer and I
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think this was important one of the things that you did Christy is a lot
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of times the public comments that you get are because the people don't
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residents or anybody don't know the history of it. I thought when you went
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through that again reminding these were the things that you've done work you
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looked at all these things I don't know how to get that out to the public because
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I agree is when you're at this point you don't go back to score one this is
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building off of everything and so half of it is just letting the public know
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that this is what we came up with this is what you looked at because yeah
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I was thinking about there's to me I can't imagine what else you would do
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for Bel Air. I mean, you're not going to put a, I mean, the water terrace nice, but
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this is something that is nicer. Yeah, this is unique. And this is something that is Bel
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Air. And actually, it's funny, it ties kind of to the city Houston's logo, too, with
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the trains. I mean, there's a little bit of history there, you know, regionally.
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And so this is important to me, but there's a way just to get that out in terms of
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the public community work and, you know, the input.
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If you just let them know what has been done up to the all,
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you know, throw out there a couple of the alternatives
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that you did have.
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And yes, the key is focus on this concept
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and now improve upon this concept.
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I think that's the key.
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So I agree.
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I mean, just watching this kind of from the periphery,
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this is the kind of process I love
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and because you did get input.
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And I think you've come up with something
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that's pretty cool and the good thing is
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It was done by residents so far though as far as I know very little dollars have been expended to this point
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Just to get to here. There was a lot of sweat equity in and that's important to me. So good job
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On the idea of
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Commit getting this out to the community sure
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I know you have lots of stuff to do but is this something that you have we have a
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Website said logo and like a little tab on our landing page that
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Well, not even but that too, but also to the point where the history will come up with a
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with a plan to put it out there. We can put it on the website. We can explain the history
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of it. We can figure out a way to receive community feedback, whether it be in a workshop
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or online. So we'll discuss that and work through it and move forward.
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I mean, I think what I'm hearing is that what y'all have presented is something that I think Council has found to be worthy of pushing it to the next step.
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And I think that's what you're asking for. I think to the extent that your recommendation is, look, we've done, we've taken it, we think that it makes sense.
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We think that it's going to translate.
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We think that it's going to be able to be reproducible in the forms that we need it,
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but we ultimately need it in such a way to where a professional needs to make sure that
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that happens.
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And I think that's what you're ultimately asking for, and then the rest of that.
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So I think you've heard from counsel that I think by general consent we can say – unless
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you have something –
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I just wanted to add, but go ahead.
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Sure.
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Well, all I was going to say is I think by general consent that we can tell you, yes,
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I think that we want to move forward with what you have presented in the manner in which
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you have presented in the process that you have suggested.
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And I'm comfortable that the money can either, depending upon the, I think, the timing
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of it all, I think we can either amend our budget or it'll be coming up in our
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budget starting on October 1st.
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And so it sounds like we'll be able to handle that one way or the other in that regard.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Yeah.
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I was just speaking in terms of process and the same thing.
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I think we're at a good time as we're preparing the budget.
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Like October 1st is just not that far away in this, and so I think it lines up very
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well for us to plan for budgeting these funds in FY 27.
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That doesn't mean that Cheryl couldn't get a head start on notifying the community
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and so on.
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There's a lot of excitement.
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I mean, I'd love to see this on everything in the next two months, but you know what?
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It's okay for it to take a little bit of time.
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I think it's good for us to set some schedule expectations, which would be we'll have outreach
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and engagement over the next couple of months, we'll award a contract January 1st, we'll
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have final by March.
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By the end of FY 27, it's sealed, done, ready to implement or something like that.
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And we can debate the specifics of the timeline, but like I said, it's easy to say do it immediately
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or it's also easy to drag it out forever.
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I think we find the proper middle ground where we're doing it right, but we have schedule
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expectations and we can know that in about a year from now, you know, this process will
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be done and we're ready to move forward.
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All right.
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Is that, first of all, Cheryl, do you have enough and, again, Christie, do you
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We all have enough to be able to move forward.
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Okay.
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Alan, the agenda item said discussion, presentation discussion and possible action.
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I think our possible action doesn't mean approving that, means giving them the go-ahead to move
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forward.
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Is that from a legal perspective?
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Are we okay with that?
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Yes.
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Yes, we are.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Can't take a unanimous vote, that would be fun.
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Hey, all those in favor of moving forward,
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please signify by raising your right hand.
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Yes, there we go.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I will tell y'all, I was the liaison
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for Culture and Arts back in 2014
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when that version first came up
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with a lot of work back in those days
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And then there was, as Christy said, there were several efforts that have come forward.
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And so I think the time is right for us to do something.
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I guess none of those were right, and that makes sense, but it seems like today is we're
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getting to that point.
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So thank you, Paul, for your comments and input, and also for the support you all
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showed at the Coulter and Arts Board.
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That gets them another 40 yards, I think, right there.
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Okay. We will go back on our agenda to where we left off at item number 2, H2, which would
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be an ordinance authorizing publication of a notice of intention to issue certificates
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of obligation, authorizing the preparation of a preliminary official statement, and
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notice of sale and providing for other matters incidental there, too.
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So with that, tell us about that.
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So before we start, Mayor, I wanted to mention we had a couple of errors on this item and
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the next item, and I wanted to take ownership and responsibility for that.
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We had uploaded some agenda materials that didn't really belong there, and staff will
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talk more in detail.
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We also had a couple of errors in the next item, and so I wanted to call that to
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your attention.
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Apologize for it.
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Let you know that we're working on improving our process to ensure that you don't see those again
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So with that I'm going to pass it over to Beth Jones and to Jim Harrison from finance
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But just to follow up on that
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There's nothing in in those in those errors that prohibited us from dealing with it and addressing it
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No, absolutely not. They were just typographical and just a poor craftsmanship on our part in getting that to you
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So I apologize. We appreciate we appreciate the the heads up
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and your attention to detail.
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Thank you.
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Good evening, Mayor and Council.
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Beth Jones, Assistant City Manager and City Engineer.
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And Jim Harrison, Assistant Director of Finance.
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Terence Beeman is unable to be here tonight,
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so you have the B team.
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I apologize.
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This agenda item is for the first step
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in issuing certificates of obligation.
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As you know, I updated you in April
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regarding our Glenmont property for public works.
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This certificate of obligation is for $8.7 million.
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When I spoke to you in April, I talked about the update of the process.
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Originally, we had talked about $7 million.
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And that was the original estimate as we went through the design process
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and landed the plane and made several decisions about what exactly would need to be there.
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The budget amount moved to $8.7 million.
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So this item is for that bond issuance, excuse me, the certificate of obligation.
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There were a few questions that were raised in the supporting documents by Councilman Gordon.
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A standard language of attachment A to the ordinance.
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If you'll go there, it was questioning about the reference to ad valorem taxes to pay for this,
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as well as the language that it specifies a building and related facilities for the public works department.
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There were two questions of the first one being how do we intend to pay for these certificates of obligation?
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And then the second question being that as I mentioned in April, it's not just a public works facility.
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There will be the police impound lot.
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Several divisions of the parks department will be there too.
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per Allen's guidance. Attachment A is more of a standardized language that when you issue
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the certificates of obligation and the sale of it, it's a very formulaic language. And
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so, yes, we could be more specific regarding what exactly will be there, but it's not
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necessary and there's not too much of a pro to it. But the recommendation from Allen
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was to keep the language more simple. As far as paying for it, the language, again, is a bit
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standard, but so that you understand, because there is a shared use between Enterprise and
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General Fund facilities there in our bookkeeping side of things, we're splitting those costs in
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a 60-40, 60% Enterprise, 40% General Fund. So we anticipate that utility rates and the
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enterprise fund would support 60% of that expense, and then the general fund, property
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tax and so forth, would support 40% of that. So that's the idea behind that. And then
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there was a question regarding the $12.5 million in bonds that we'll talk about next.
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Should that be an attachment B? And the answer from Council is no, we don't need to,
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because we're going to issue the certificates of obligation first. That will be sold
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in August and the general obligation bonds the water wastewater bonds will be
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sold in September. So this attachment is what exists today at the sale of these
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certificates of obligation. So I hope I've cleared up some questions and I'm
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happy to answer more and I really want to give Jim an opportunity to talk so
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ask something hard please.
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Any questions? Council Member Thurber.
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While you're
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not including the 12.5 are the other bond in here. You have considered those together
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from just a financial standpoint. So that was part of the reason we wanted to bring
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these two items on the same night so that you can look at it holistically and we can
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have a discussion about the two different kinds of debt that we're going to be issuing
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almost at the same time and have a holistic view. So while it's not listed in Attachment
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We did talk about the preliminary official statement that was erroneously attached to the agenda item.
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That's a working document. That's what you're actually granting us permission to start working on.
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That's where we'll really get into the meat of that information there.
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I had another question just overall again to explain kind of for the public is kind
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of the bond rate or tax rate and everything just I know they're again they're linked
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together and it's a very general discussion right now but I want to make sure that that's
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been looked at in terms of the rates and our debt overall.
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So, Jim can speak to some specifics, but I can tell you that when Terrence and I worked
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on this, he was worried about...
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You know, the tax rate and how it would hit our budget and so forth, and then I backed
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in from the capital standpoint of when we needed money and how.
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So we work together and the certificates of obligation are one thing that's kind of more
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you issue it as you need it, but the general obligation bonds are a little bit different
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and there are particular times of year that are more preferred to sell them.
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and Terence and Jim can speak to it, but August,
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that timeframe is the more preferred because of how it hits our tax rate.
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So I worked on August, and I backed out those numbers.
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Did you want to speak to what was paid?
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Sure. I'm not sure I fully understand your question.
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Is just without detail, our tax rate with it,
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it's been considered for both of these, the CO and the GO bonds
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bonds has been considered as with our overall tax rate and it's reasonable. I think it's
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just that as you've evaluated that versus our overall debt of the city and so it's
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without getting in the detail because that'll be coming later when you have more detail
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on the bonds, but this is a general statement that to go and just have us to consider
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these now. Y'all have looked at all the detail with the bond rating, the total
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debt. Yeah, a bond rating is not going to be a problem. These will be triple A rated on positive.
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You know, in 2019, I think we had almost $130 million worth of debt. We now have about $91
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million. We were triple A then, and that was, I guess that was 2019. And that was in 2019
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dollars. We've had a lot of inflation since. And I'm confident the bond rating is not going to be
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an issue with this. Our tax rate does have two components. It's got the debt component
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and the general fund operations and maintenance component.
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There won't be a whole lot of this.
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It's really going to be in the debt tax rate.
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40% of the public works building we're allocating towards that.
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The other 60% is going to be funded through the enterprise fund utility rates.
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The $12.5 million that's all water and wastewater.
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So that's going to be utility rates.
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That's not going to be the tax rate either.
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So we pay down about $8 million of principal every year on the bonds.
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That almost takes care of the CO as far as the trade-off there last year we
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issued 7 million of debt we paid off just over 7 millions of debt so the debt
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didn't overall didn't change last year because of the timing of it so we do
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manage to the extent we can the timing a lot of it's project-based but our
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financial advisor is also always watching you know what's maturing and
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when so we we do try to manage timing somewhat within the parameters of
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the projects we need to get done in order to manage overall you know the
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the debt load. So we do look at all that. The tax rate won't be super impacted by this
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because most of this is going to be funded through utility rates.
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Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Pat.
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Any other questions? Council Member Lewis?
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Yeah. I know this is going to come as a question from the public as they brought
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it up before, but certificates of obligation, they have a certain purpose. I know my
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understanding of it and what I would say to them but they'll say why didn't you
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put this out to the voter for bonds and I figure shall I let you answer that?
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Certificates of obligation are very limited in their nature and so the
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state law has allowed for us to have very specific framework in which to
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work in. It works well for purchase of properties and then the existing
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construction of it or renovation of it.
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So the most conservative answer is you could take it to the voters, however, we had a very
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specific timeline that we needed to continue.
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Ellen, did you want to speak more to that?
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Just also that there is a notice process.
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So the resolution you're authorizing today, if you authorize it, would be for us to
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publish notice of our intent to issue these certificates in August and there's
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a time period where we have to publish notice of that and in fact if sufficient
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people were to file a petition protesting they could force an election so
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there there is a sort of a backstop if the public were to be vehemently opposed
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And my answer would be, what I understood about Certificates of Obligation is they are
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for essential services for the city.
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And I have told people before, you have to provide a place for these people to go to work.
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You want your trash picked up, you want your streets repaired, you got to provide a place
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for them to report to work, take their showers after they've been out on a hot,
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sweaty day, and you have to provide this.
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this is essential. And that was my understanding of certificates of obligation. It's for something
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that is essential to the city. It was, well, we knew eventually we'd have to do something
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about a public works building. And this was, on the radar, we were looking for a warehouse,
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something industrial that was just outside the city of Bel Air, just outside the city
[1:20:25]
a bell-air where it's off of Houston's tax base, not off of ours, but that's my understanding
[1:20:33]
and that's what I also would tell them, because I know we're going to get some flack. We're
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going to get flack about certificates of obligation. I just want to make sure publicly it's all
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very clear this is a board, we're not doing something behind closed doors, and it is
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essential. It's just essential. If you want your trash picked up, provide a place for
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them to go to work.
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Well,
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first of all, we kind of lucked into this, right? I mean, we were so lucky that
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it even showed up when it did. So that's one thing that I would say publicly also is
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it was the perfect unicorn that we needed. And weren't we leasing, weren't we making
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some money by leasing it also so there was some income coming from it that I
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just want to make sure everybody understands that this isn't just about
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how we're you know increasing any kind of debt which we have to anyway but that
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there was income coming also. Yes we have a tenant until the end of July and
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we've been receiving lease payments for that.
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Mayor for attendance. Thank you
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very much the honor. First of all thank you for the presentation. You
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You mentioned you had consultable counsel, you meant legal counsel, right?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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The other, a couple of things, when does a 45-day notice trigger?
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Is it?
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It starts the first day of publication, which will be later this week, if approved.
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Okay.
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And you mentioned the uses of these types of the, I think, urgent repairs, utility
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projects, public safety equipment, I think, or a couple of things, project, capital project
[1:22:23]
equipment, infrastructure. So these are the things that typically are city, and we are
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one of them that will use certificates of obligation. Thank you, Your Honor.
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Council Member Gordon.
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No, I just wanted to say how excited I am for this facility. We had a great presentation
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a few months ago on an update of the design. The fact that one facility can address
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so many of our city-wide facility needs is just fantastic.
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We really are in a good spot.
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This building will fill so many needs.
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And we're doing it in a way that absent all these other discussions.
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It's also just very financially prudent.
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Like, we're remodeling buildings, we're doing it in a way that we're trading land
[1:23:06]
that we can now use for drainage, for land elsewhere.
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So the totality of this, I think, has just been a really well engineered arrangement
[1:23:14]
by city staff. And I'm just very proud of how we got here today. And I think it's a big step
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to sell these certificates. And to our construction start date should be...
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Well, I'll be back in, I believe, August to finalize our guaranteed maximum price with our
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CMAR contractor. And that's when we'll have already sold these and be ready to go.
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And hopefully we'll have our permits from Houston permitting. And so we're looking
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We're looking for a groundbreaking this early fall is probably what we have going on.
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So very exciting to have that happen.
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And as always, we're very, very lucky to have Alan, our financial counsel and our whole team here,
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Terence, Jim and everybody to take us through bond sales because they're the experts at it
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and they know how to do it.
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And we've been very lucky with how they've managed them in the last couple of years.
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the past. So thank you guys very much. All right, Council Member Thurber. Just to follow up kind of
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from Council Member Lewis though, we usually don't issue COs that often, correct? It is very rarely.
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This is yeah the second time that okay so again for the public is that very seldom do you utilize
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these things. Well there has not historically used it as a funding mechanism but it is very
[1:24:43]
common in other municipalities, especially when it comes to infrastructure and necessary
[1:24:48]
equipment. So it is a common tool. Belair has chosen not to use it very often.
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And normally we go to the voters for a bottle of it. That's what I want to make sure of.
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That's right. Just as we did with regard to the Cypress Ditch Project and just like
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we did with regard to the wastewater treatment plant and the water pipes and the sewage
[1:25:12]
pipes and what have you. I also think that we've touched upon through some of your comments
[1:25:20]
that we've also been paying rent to house a public works building and it's been more
[1:25:27]
than a decade that we have been without. We'll be able to use all of the land within
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the city for extremely necessary drainage purposes. It really touches on so many
[1:25:39]
different aspects, and then now with regard to the multiple use by crossing department
[1:25:43]
sizes as well, we'll also, I think it'll also improve, we'll have a lay down yard there.
[1:25:50]
We'll have the ability to house a lot of our vehicles and the maintenance will drop
[1:25:53]
because you've got such a big, big building.
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So it provides so many different uses, plus because of the staging of some of the debt
[1:26:02]
that we've had, as you've noticed and Jim's outlined, you know, we were, we got down
[1:26:06]
about $92 million a couple of years ago, but we have done some significant improvements
[1:26:11]
from an infrastructure perspective in this city, and we're still at the same spot.
[1:26:16]
And next year we'll likely be close to the same spot because we also have $54 million
[1:26:21]
from the state from which to go off from with regard to our Cypress Stitch project,
[1:26:25]
which, of course, a lot of this is about timing.
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And I think we have hit about as good a sweet spot as we can with regard to that.
[1:26:35]
But I agree with them, we were at $125 million, $130 million in debt, and we were still clicking
[1:26:40]
around at a AAA bond rating because of our per capita wealth that exists in this town.
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And so I think we're good there.
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I think your division of the 6040, I think it makes perfect sense and it's excellent.
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I mean, I think it's about being smart.
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I think the timing of this is necessary.
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the certificate of obligation, our important tool in that regard, and I think we are being
[1:27:07]
good stewards of that.
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I think, quite frankly, for things just like this, I think we have finally realized that
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there are tools out there, and we should use them, and we have, when appropriate.
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And I think this is one of those occasions.
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So I do not think we have a motion unless anybody else has got anything to say.
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I'll entertain a motion to approve of the ordinance authorizing publication of
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notice of intention to issue a certificate of obligation,
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authorizing the preparation of a preliminary official statement
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and notice of sale and providing for the other matters
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incidental there, too.
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Do I have such a motion?
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Some move.
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Some move by Council Member Witt.
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I was pointing at him, man.
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But you get the second.
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OK.
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Todd's got the second.
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Oh, Todd's got the second, too.
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OK.
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All right, Todd.
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You got the second.
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All right. All right. Is there any further discussion on this particular matter?
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Anything further? All right. Thank you.
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Well, then, all those in favor of the ordinance as so stated and moved and seconded,
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please signify by raising your right hands.
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Thank you very much. It passes unanimously.
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Thank you, Beth.
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All right. Good job, guys.
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Thank you.
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Excellent. Let's move forward.
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Not going anywhere.
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Okay, we've got one more item, I believe, on our agenda.
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I've got so much stuff on here now.
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Let's see.
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I think it's direction to the city manager to proceed with Preparation 4
[1:28:37]
in the acceptance of a preliminary official statement in bond sale,
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timetable for the sale of $12.5 million in general obligation bonds,
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Series 2026.
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All right.
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Why don't you take that forward, please?
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This item is for general obligation bonds for the sale of water and wastewater bonds.
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As many of you recall, a couple of November's ago, we went to the voters with a referendum
[1:29:05]
for $30 million in water wastewater bonds and then $40 million in drainage bonds.
[1:29:12]
Luckily, we don't need those drainage bonds just yet, but we are going to need some of the water wastewater bonds.
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And in the agenda statement, we discussed how we arrived at the $12.5 million.
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It's worth noting that it's our intention to sell about exactly $12.5 million this August-September.
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And then we intend to come back and do another sale in August of 2017 for an approximate
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$13 million, but we'll know better how much we spend out of the first tranche as to
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For this first tranche, how we plan on spending that is we're going to refund three work orders
[1:29:55]
that we previously issued for HDR work when we took that
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Allowing us that if we chose to in the future to repay ourselves with bond money, so that's
[1:30:06]
that first bullet. And then we also need to fund the engineering and professional services
[1:30:13]
for decommissioning of the wastewater treatment plant, the lift station and force main connection
[1:30:19]
to Houston, demolition of the public works lay down yard and buildings, and then some
[1:30:26]
smaller CIP projects for FY 27, including next steps in SCADA, water storage tank rehab,
[1:30:35]
alternative analysis for the Bel Air lift station, and the Feldpark water plant generator.
[1:30:41]
So these are just a few of our capital projects that we'll be rolling out in FY 27, but these
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are the projects that we anticipate meeting bond funding for.
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why don't we do this why don't we get a motion on the floor and then the second
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and then we can discuss it make a motion so moved second you honor seconded by
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the mayor see how easy that was amazing mayor all right councilman Gordon did
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send over a few questions and if I may address those for and
[1:31:20]
others. Part of the question was the fiscal impact of this, because these are the water
[1:31:26]
wastewater bonds. Any impact would be seen in our rates. However, this issuance was not
[1:31:33]
originally incorporated into our current rate structure, so our enterprise fund will
[1:31:39]
handle it until we do an update of our rate study, which we anticipate doing in
[1:31:44]
a couple of years. So then that will be baked into that amount. But in this current
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state, it'll be absorbed in the enterprise fund balance. And then, again, as I mentioned,
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we'll probably do another sale in August of 27 for approximately the same amount, another
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$13 million. And in that, we anticipate paying impact fees to Houston, among other capital
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projects that we'll be moving forward.
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All right. Questions? Councillor Berlis.
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Were you trying to address one of my questions?
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I believe you asked about drainage. Unfortunately, the agenda statement erroneously referenced
[1:32:25]
the drainage impact fee. These aren't going to be drainage bonds, so they will be funded
[1:32:32]
and paid from wastewater and enterprise funds. So when we do our rate study again, the water
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wastewater rates will incorporate these bonds.
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Okay.
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All right. Anything else?
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I would just say I know I appreciate the way this is presented. I appreciate the collection
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of projects that we're looking at. We mentioned before these are all part of a lot of different
[1:32:55]
things coming together and making sure they're aligned at the right time. And so you see
[1:32:58]
you know demolition planning force mains and all that. That's all geared towards the
[1:33:03]
broader piece. I guess just a quick question, Alan, when we sell these bonds, they if
[1:33:11]
different water wastewater project comes up or we need to tweak something we can
[1:33:17]
reprogram inside the water wastewater world we're not specifically tied to
[1:33:22]
these dollar amounts or these projects if we need to adjust that that is correct
[1:33:28]
as long as we stay within the water wastewater category okay and I bring
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that just because let's say for example the city of Houston demands impact
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repayment earlier than we thought we could still do that here and then
[1:33:39]
shuffle on the back end and so on which is good flexibility to be able to handle
[1:33:44]
these changing demands. So no, I really appreciate the work and
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it's good to get all these projects moving. This list was meant to just be
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transparent with how we arrived at the 12.5 so that council knew and
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understood where we got there. So it's not written in stone as you mentioned,
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but it's it's how we got to the 12.5 and just quickly you said we were this
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was going to be paid through the enterprise fund and we and we're in
[1:34:17]
good shape yes okay and I would just say that the biggest component of this is
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the lift station and force main connection to the city of Houston which
[1:34:25]
that is our critical path towards all the things that we're doing because
[1:34:29]
that has to be done before we can decommission the wastewater plant and
[1:34:33]
that has to be done before we can build out the detention and so the most
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important piece is is in here for funding so that's great.
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Alright anything
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further on this particular item? Okay we have a motion on the floor it's been
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seconded we've had discussion on the item and so unless there's anything
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further we'll have a vote on the direction to the city manager proceed
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with the preparation for and the acceptance of a preliminary official
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statement and bond sale timetable for the sale of $12.5 million in general obligation
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bond series 2026. All those in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Thank
[1:35:15]
you. It passes unanimously. Thank you all very much for all the work that you've done
[1:35:21]
on that. All right, big moves folks in the city. I guess we are looking through
[1:35:32]
through all of this. I've scratched through a lot of things here, but I think we've come
[1:35:35]
to the end of our agenda. Anybody see anything we've missed? I think we're good, okay.
[1:35:42]
And so we come to community interest and items of the Mayor and City Council, and Council
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Member Witt talked to us about Juneteenth and Fathers, and it just teared me up
[1:35:52]
and it did. It did. I think of my dad, and that always makes me smile and cry
[1:35:59]
at the same time. So, in any event, thanks for those wonderful words and we'll let you start
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it off.
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Man, after that, I don't know if I should just like walk away.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You're on a high?
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Yeah, it's on a high. The last thing I will say is that it's hard to believe that we're
[1:36:14]
not going to meet until after July 4th. And it's 250 years for an experiment that
[1:36:19]
turns out has lasted. And I think the amazing thing about our country is that we are
[1:36:24]
not perfect, but it's our ability to change over time. I was looking for quotes
[1:36:29]
and one of the things that Winston Churchill – well, it's a tribute to him, but lots
[1:36:33]
of people may have said it before that – was democracy has been the – it has been said
[1:36:38]
that democracy is the worst form of government except for all the reforms that have been
[1:36:41]
tried from time to time. And, admittedly, we have a constitutional republic. I mean,
[1:36:46]
it's a little different. But I do think it's amazing that as we celebrate 250 years,
[1:36:50]
we have to celebrate that we are part of a country that knows that we're not
[1:36:54]
perfect and we can change over time. And that's, I think, what leads to us
[1:36:58]
being the country that we are. Yeah I love that. It's not perfect but it's the best step that's out
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there. Okay I really just want to a couple things that are just I love that we're you know you mentioned
[1:37:11]
the appropriation of the metro funds for the street maintenance I mean I'm so glad we're doing that.
[1:37:16]
The culture and art boards I just want to again thank you guys so much like I can't believe
[1:37:21]
how much work you guys did and that is coming from our residents you know it's coming
[1:37:26]
from a board, like I just really appreciate what you guys did and we need it so bad.
[1:37:31]
And I also want to just again point out, and the mayor was making the point here, but the
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holistic approach to the bonds for the public works, like I really want everybody to think
[1:37:45]
about that from a very high level financial point of view where we're not just increasing
[1:37:51]
debt.
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we are increasing debt because we have to, but it's also because that was the perfect scenario
[1:37:56]
and we had to take advantage of it. But in addition to that, we have been increasing income
[1:38:02]
from this leasing to our tenant, and also we are decreasing expenses because we are
[1:38:11]
eliminating some costs that we have on our books. So everybody needs to think about it from that
[1:38:15]
perspective, don't get too caught up in the, you know, lose the force for the trees.
[1:38:20]
So, and then I love that we have worked so hard, our enterprise fund is healthy, and here
[1:38:28]
we are in a scenario where we need to, this project, to kick off the really big water
[1:38:35]
project that we've been trying to work on for so long, and we took steps early on
[1:38:40]
to make our enterprise fund, maybe not knowing what we would need that for, but
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But here it is.
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We need it.
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So these are the things that make us solvent.
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These are the things that make us a healthy, financially healthy for, you know, our government.
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And so I hope everybody can appreciate that.
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And, you know, as we get kind of, you know, pushed back on certain scenarios, this is
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what we're doing.
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It's a big picture perspective.
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So I'm leaving for Greece in two days, so see you later.
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but everybody enjoyed their summer.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, now she'll be back.
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She'll be back.
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First of all, I want to say comes from Whit.
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I enjoyed your comments tonight.
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Both about Father's Day and also about Juneteenth.
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You know, two of the top eight Juneteenth celebrations
[1:39:36]
in our country are in the state of Texas,
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the Galveston and the Houston area.
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So it is a big deal for our state and thank you very much for bringing it up in your comments tonight along with Father's Day.
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So happy Father's Day as you wish for all the fathers out there.
[1:39:52]
Secondly, I wanted to compliment our staff also a lot of a lot is happening between budgets and the presentations that they've made that they may give every council meeting.
[1:40:03]
It's a lot of work.
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And clearly, we have a great team that's working well together and witness these documents.
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If you read through these documents, I encourage our residents to take the time to go into the
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files.
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All of it's published.
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You can read about it, but there's a lot of work that they've put into these.
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It may take a few minutes to present, but it's days and weeks of preparation to get
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to this point.
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Thirdly, we had a meeting last week, Cheryl.
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Cheryl, your community close-up meeting, where many organizations, your honor, came together
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and listed all of the great things that they're doing almost for the next year.
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I think that's a good thing because if you sit there and you witness, you see how much
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is happening in our city.
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We may only go to a couple of these things, but when you get to those meetings, you
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realize every week there's something going on in our city.
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We live in a great city between our schools and other organizations.
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There's a lot going on.
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So Cheryl, thank you for putting that together.
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And finally, and I said it earlier,
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but this board, the fabulous job you guys did,
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a lot of work went to this, a lot.
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Weeks and weeks of work and meetings,
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and meeting even when you were not in board meeting,
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I know you guys had sub-meetings
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with individuals working at home,
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a lot of work went to this.
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And the reason you're on a mission at this time,
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because obviously we're about to approach
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assignments of boards and commissions.
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And so these organizations, we witness what they present
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tonight and what planning and zoning does.
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What building standards of ESB, what the parts board,
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every one of them does a lot to enhance our city
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and witness tonight an example of why this board exists
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in the type of effort it takes to put forth the work
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to us.
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So I want to thank everyone who does serve on the Board and Commission. We do take it seriously
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And we're very happy to see our residents be a part of this. Thank you. Thank you
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Councilmember Lewis. Okay with that
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We do want to remind everyone that the deadline to apply for positions on the board and boards and commissions is
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Friday June 26 at 5 p.m. And those are due either online or to Tracy herself
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I believe there's a paper form if you live in the, if you're still living in a cave.
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But anyway, well, anyway, we do hope to have a lot of applicants.
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We've had, why do we have 32 so far?
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Yeah, okay.
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So also, just a note, is that summer solstice is next Sunday, June 21st at 3.25 a.m.
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So technically, at that point, we're halfway through summer.
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Wouldn't it be nice?
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Wouldn't it be nice?
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And happy Fourth of July.
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And thank you for your work on the logo.
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Hal's over, Gordon.
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All right.
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Well, as you can hear tonight, I'm just very excited by all
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the things that we're working on and the progress
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that we're making.
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I think what's important is that it's not just about
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tackling the problems of today and fixing the things that
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come up at us here and there.
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But it's really about chipping away
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at our strategic long-term plans,
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whether it's all the infrastructure things we are doing, or this logo is not just about the logo.
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It's a broader initiative for placemaking, for sense of identity, for community pride.
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It's one of many things that when we work at them together, at the end of the day we're going to be so proud of what we do.
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And that takes great leadership from staff and this council for continuing to make sure that we have our eye on the big picture.
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So I'm just very excited overall and thank you to the Culture and Arts Board for everything
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tonight that was fantastic.
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I did want to use this as a chance to give an update from the Environmental and Sustainability
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Board where I'm the liaison, so I'll pass this out.
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I did send you guys an email summarizing this, but what the Environmental and Sustainability
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Board did at their last meeting was they passed a motion to recommend to staff
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and council how to handle some of the events that have been best known for
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ESB in the past. Part of the challenge that they're working through is how to
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balance volunteer-led efforts versus institutionalized city-led efforts and
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one of the things that they elected to do this year was to essentially try and
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narrow a little bit the number of events that they're taking responsibility for, but as
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part of that is to try and institutionalize those events inside city operations.
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And I think it's a very smart way to try in a...
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Inability in these events. One example, recycling day is an event that ESB, Brian, you've been involved in it, started, pushed forward, and so on.
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And now, I think city staff runs it effectively. It's part of our planning. It's institutionalized.
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It happens every year. It works. And it doesn't require a unique volunteer effort every year to get it done.
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So, what ESB put in this motion, and you'll see here, is that they would like to institutionalize
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the city's involvement in Recycling Day, as it is currently.
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The Pumpkin Recycling Program has also been a high-demand, high-impact effort that they
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would like us to see city staff take on the role of managing that program.
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And the third one is participation at Earth Day, as kind of the showcase environmental
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event for the city. An important note there is that Earth Day is an event that
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actually Evelyn's Park hosts and that ESB has participated in, but the the ask
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here is that we find a way for city staff to augment that and to help make
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that more sustainable and easier. Not that ESB members can't volunteer and
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help with it, but that it's a joint effort of the city to recognize the
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importance of Earth Day and environmental sustainability.
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So this is a recommendation from ESB.
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We've talked about it in the board and Sharon's been there.
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There may be budget implications to some of these.
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When you go through this, institutionalizing it staff time, overtime, and so on.
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And that ultimately, if there's costs associated with institutionalizing these events, that
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will be up to us as part of the budgeting process to decide if we want to allocate
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the resources to do that or not. And so this was really a transmittal from the board to
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kind of tee up that future discussion both with staff and with council about trying to
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clarify our commitment to these programs and work towards a sustainable long-term approach
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to it. So with that, there's no action. I'm just providing it for updated information.
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And if you guys have any questions, you can reach out to Giles or Patricia or anybody
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on the Environmental and Sustainability Board.
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But I wanted you guys to have this and wanted us to make sure that we were considering it
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when we went into the budget cycle so that we could decide how best to support that
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board in pushing forward the things that they think are important for the city.
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So there you go.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Council Member Thurber. Since I'm last, I'm not going to add a whole lot more to
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agree. Again, good comments. I did want to say Cheryl, Gaye, and Christy again.
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Thank y'all because what you do see is the importance of again the residents
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getting engaged in something and falling through and getting the input. Good
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things happen so and because it really does relate to reminding again has
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Councilmember Lewis you said again apply for the boards and commissions it is a
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very important part of what we do as a city everybody up here is volunteers
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everybody on the commissions are volunteers it's very important and you
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do see good results when you get good public participation so thank you again
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for everything thank you thank you all for your comments tonight especially
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good. A couple of things.
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So I guess you'll be gone for July 4, Jackie? Are you going to
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be gone? You're going to be back. You're going to be gone? Gotcha. Okay. Well, I hope to see
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everybody else here on that. That's going to be a wonderful day, particularly since
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the country will be celebrating its 250th anniversary. And I think that's exactly
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right. 250 years, we have pursued under a constitutional that in some instances was
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aspirational and we were lagging a bit behind, but we constantly make an effort to make sure
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that it becomes less and less aspirational as we go along, and I think that's a credit
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to all of us.
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And I hope that we do our part here in the city of Bel Air to make sure that that is
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reality day into day out, and I think we do.
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So as a part of that, I hope you guys are following the U.S. soccer team because they're
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playing a really fantastic soccer at this point in time.
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time, the world cup being here, you know, I know it's not affecting us all that much
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hopefully although 610 may be packed from time to time as a result of that, but it is
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pretty amazing to see the world here in that regard.
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I think we're getting to see it up close because we're so close to energy.
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As far as, and I appreciate you talking about the weather, you know, they were saying
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maybe there's 10 to 14 inches of rain depending upon the timing of it, that can affect things,
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but that's a constant reminder of why we're doing what we're doing, why we are doing
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cyber-stitch, why we are pushing really, really, really hard on these things because when those
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weather forecasts pop out and they say 10 to 14 inches of rain, we understand what that means
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and particularly affects on certain parts of the city. And so I particularly am not bashful
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about the things that we are doing.
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I think we are doing everything we can within our power
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to make sure to protect the city and keep it going
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and keep our infrastructure strong.
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One thing about Bel Air in local governments
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are so many times people spend money,
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cities spend money and they don't even know where it goes.
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They can't see where it goes.
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Our residents can see where our money is going
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every single day.
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They see it in the Dirk work.
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They see it in the infrastructure.
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They see it in the public works building.
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building. They see it in these buildings. They'll see it in the detention ponds and Cypress
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Stitch. They will see that is where our money is going. We are building the foundations of
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our city house and as well as it should be.
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As far as, you know, I think, look, I think,
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you know, with regard to our boards and commissions throughout time, at least in my, you know,
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I don't know 12 14 years of really being a part of the city. I have seen every single one of our boards and commissions excel
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I've seen every single one of them excel in so many different ways even the stat story boards and then the ones that we've created here in
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The city they have all done some really really fabulous things and bar none and right now you guys are at you guys are excelling
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You guys
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You're knocking out of the park
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I mean, you did the banners, you did the arts and crafts, and you're continuing to expand that.
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You did the cookbook to start out, fabulous, fabulous effort.
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And now you've put forward something that really we haven't had this kind of jumpstart and enthusiasm for a long time.
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And so you are a model, you really are.
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And it's a model of dedication to just doing good, solid work, to volunteerism,
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to you can accomplish really, really wonderful things
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if you've gotten, you set your mind to it
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and you keep the heart of the city
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and what it really means at the forefront.
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And so I think a lot of our boards
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and commissions kind of look at that model
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and I think y'all have done it in two ways.
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You've done it because you've received input
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in requests from city council and members of council
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and on your own.
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So you've organically made some of these decisions
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yourself and have pushed these things forward.
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So you've worked in both ways
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But it's also something to help us as counsel to be a little bit better and we've had our conversations about boards and commissions to be a
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Little bit better about maybe how we message things
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What we expect of our boards and commissions what we want out of them and how we can help them help the city
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And so you provide us with a lot of good input on that regard. So I thank you for that as well
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But good job. Well done
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You know, it still amazes me how many people in our city don't really know what's really
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going on here.
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Somebody came up to me the other day and they said, I saw this vehicle, it was really large,
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and it had big huge tires on it, and he said, you mean our high-water vehicle?
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And they go, yeah, is that what it is?
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We have one of those?
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I said, yeah, we got a high-water vehicle.
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It really, really is amazing, and a lot of people don't even know about the events
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that are going on over there with the detention ponds and in cyberstitch and so you know I
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think it's just a function of function of us we're just kind of doing what we're doing
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and we're doing what we're supposed to be doing and letting other people live their
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lives and enjoy their lives the way they're supposed to and so that's what representative
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government is all about so I I think that's a I think that's a good thing we've got
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We'll be seeing all our folks for a board and interviews.
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I think we've agreed to see them all, which is also a good thing, but I think we've got
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a few messages with regard to how we want to do that and what we want out of it.
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I look forward to seeing you guys on July 4th, and for those of you out of the city,
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oh, one more thing.
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For you, this can be good.
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We're going to probably have to take our picture after you come back, because you'll
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be gone in two days, and you'll be tan.
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See, I know.
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I know. It's all about you. I know. So, in any event, so Cheryl, we'll just, we'll get
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it situated after Jackie comes back. Well, with that, I think that does it for the evening.
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that at 755, we are adjourned. Thank you all.