[0:01] All right, welcome out everyone. It's August 27th, 2020. This is a big no town work meeting. We're going to start with roll call, Greg.

[0:11] from here. Western, here. Steve, here. Jeff, here. Kelsey, here. And myself moray and

[0:18] carry Stevens and carry Brinker Hall for both absent tonight.

[0:24] Do we have any published

[0:25] elements, Ellen? There's something we want to know. Nothing. All right, we're going to move

[0:31] right onto you, Kevin. Right to the top of the list. So you all know we've had meter issues.

[0:38] Our reader don't work, I feel like we've lost a lot of money, jet contact, mountain land, and Kevin's going to present to us.

[0:49] But just so you know, it took me 12 hours to read these years.

[0:54] Today, you're at him today. When you left, I started reading, they didn't get done till, well, I stopped at six last night.

[1:02] I started at a six o'clock this morning and didn't get done till two and I still had you get out in manually read some of them

[1:13] Should have brand new

[1:16] Yeah, flight kits and yeah

[1:18] The electronic parts

[1:19] Yeah, we've got smashes going on

[1:23] What's your last name, sorry

[1:24] Carter

[1:25] Yep, Kevin Carter

[1:27] So

[1:28] The meeting system that I

[1:30] But I sell it, I can provide it is the census line.

[1:34] So you're currently on the badger system.

[1:37] It's badger meters with neutron radios and the radios.

[1:42] These ones that we sell, they're also a radio-reeped meter.

[1:46] But the difference is that the neutron radios are on public spectrum.

[1:49] We talked about this the other day, so we're going to recap just a little bit on it.

[1:54] So public spectrum radio, we're limited on how loud we can talk because we'll step on each other's toes.

[1:59] We'll make enough noise that other things won't work.

[2:02] We talked about garage door openers, baby monitors, things like that.

[2:06] Even general Wi-Fi can cause interruptions on public frequency.

[2:12] So they limit how loud they can actually talk.

[2:14] These ones here, these are a private frequency, since it's owns the frequency.

[2:19] And then, at least, it's at to the city.

[2:21] So it's there for your frequency.

[2:23] It's your frequency.

[2:24] Here, geographically, we license it in your name.

[2:28] And because it's yours, you're not going to step on anybody else's toes, but you're

[2:31] on, they can talk as loud as they want.

[2:34] And kind of that happy medium that they found is two watts.

[2:39] So the high time radios are talking at point two watts, our radios are talking at a call

[2:43] two watts.

[2:44] So we're 10 times the volume.

[2:47] Let me ask your question, does that mean that he has to drive by each meter to read it

[2:52] where 90% of your system, 95% of the system will pick up from the shop.

[2:59] I would imagine, oh wow, it's not here, you know.

[3:06] So, please hold it.

[3:09] So, it makes it very, very easy to run.

[3:13] There's no small thing, it's not taking a hand held, it's holding a hand held with a valve, it needs

[3:17] to be able to bring it back in.

[3:19] It's all done over the cloud now, so as long as you're connected to the water, it's

[3:22] but you can actually go out, breathe, even though a partial reading, the person in the office

[3:28] that's managing it can transfer that parcel out to someone else and have them finish it.

[3:34] It's a very intuitive system as far as divided by system goes, and it's all mapped out.

[3:39] So when you do go out to read, it's not just a list of addresses anymore, and now it's a dots on the map.

[3:45] So you kind of drive around like a pack manager, just watch those dots disappear.

[3:48] Captain, I actually watched him do that yesterday because it'd be amazing.

[3:54] So just so you know, he went out through the set random one-round town.

[4:00] So he set one-round by the big one.

[4:03] Set one out by the two branch.

[4:07] Set one by M and D's.

[4:09] One up here by the shop.

[4:11] And then one over by the church.

[4:19] Yep.

[4:19] it's it read all of those. That's pretty crazy. So how many can it do?

[4:27] It's as many as you like. The vehicle he has generally speaking is designed to pick up up

[4:32] about 25,000 services. About that. I mean any more, I need about 2,000 services, most people just go fix

[4:43] space where they'll have a central antenna that's just as it was talking. Which I actually

[4:48] I've got a version of that for you tonight as well, so we can talk about that as well.

[4:54] The idea is to simplify the meter reading process, make it a lot easier, a lot faster,

[5:02] and give you a system that's going to last really a long time.

[5:06] So every part of the system between our commercial meters, the coordinates that we talked about yesterday,

[5:11] there are an ultrasonic meter, there are static meter, no moving parts, same with the side pearl here.

[5:16] It's a mag meter, so if you look in this meter, the old fashioned meters, how have my full kit today?

[5:23] They kind of teach and demonstrate, but this one, there's not moving parts in it.

[5:26] There's not like a paddle wheel in there that spins as water flowing through it.

[5:30] And there's water through it.

[5:32] That's the water passes between two sensors that creates a little bit of a charge,

[5:36] depending on the charge, so much water is flowing through there.

[5:39] So, they're extremely accurate.

[5:41] They pick up leaks down to 0-3 gallons per minute.

[5:44] That's where your pickup flow starts.

[5:48] And then no matter up to 55 pounds per minute, that's the residential unit that commercial ones obviously do a lot more.

[5:57] But everyone on those have a 20 year warranty with fully expect them to last about 20 years and then sell.

[6:03] How's that installation?

[6:05] Installation?

[6:06] Would we be able to follow them myself?

[6:09] I could get you a number if you want someone to come around and install them in the program ready.

[6:14] If you wanted to do a Volkswap out, or is it something that we would do, what do you think of that?

[6:19] So there's different options here.

[6:23] So they have that one plus a brass system, right?

[6:26] Yes, we have these x and meter, but in brass as well.

[6:30] The metallic threads, sometimes, guys, just like a markedly crust,

[6:34] I don't know a little bit less, right?

[6:36] Yeah.

[6:36] The polymeters are quite a bit lighter, easier to handle.

[6:40] Regardless, even the next version of this side,

[6:43] already heard kind of some different numbers about it coming out. It's going to have a shorter profile.

[6:48] It'll do pressure and temperature sensing. It's going to do just about everything. So let me

[6:53] take my eyes just getting better and better. And as these were out, it swapped those out to the nose. Exactly.

[7:00] You have to change the whole meter or the top of the meter. So the whole thing is what gets walked out.

[7:07] So after 20 years you take the old meter out, drop in the old. We used to do so on the old

[7:19] So

[7:26] this is a model of 25.

[7:30] Now, how hard is it going to be for you if you have to swap them out, is it pretty, I mean, how deep they are, how deep they are, how deep they are, say like their arms like to probably be about 10 to 15 minutes on easy. So you're not going to have to dig up.

[7:54] They probably aren't arms, like, like one out of the chat bring it off today, try to fix

[7:59] he is.

[8:00] Like ours is probably about that big.

[8:02] I think ours is this big.

[8:04] So Chad's was about five, five and a half, so I'm going to be able to reach it.

[8:10] How do you get down in there?

[8:12] You can't even, it's not big enough.

[8:13] You have to take the lid off and then hang yourself down in there, with all the spiders.

[8:20] The one for the richer field board that I just replaced, that is the old that has a

[8:25] metal ring for ever.

[8:28] It had a 16 inch extension on top of the four foot on there, so I had to dig that out,

[8:35] take it off, and then dig it down one of my hips, we're hanging at four feet, and then put

[8:41] an e-board, you know, patented and rest my forehead, right there, and balance myself, and

[8:46] basically lay there, and I'm doing it, okay. So it would be, well, we can do it into

[8:54] this little process. I'm going to say it's going to be a process. So we're going to buy a box at a time.

[9:00] It seems that many out. How many is in the box? And three quarter inch meters, there's eight

[9:07] box on one inch meters or six to a box and there's 27 radios to a box. So we can maybe

[9:13] set a goal of a year and have them all in. Well, let's talk about an option one that you had

[9:19] for a week. Can you tell that to me? I did, did not come through. I'll do that for you. I really like

[9:28] I think it's still a form for us.

[9:32] We're getting ahead of it.

[9:33] If not, we'll leave you with our copies.

[9:35] We'll do it.

[9:36] No.

[9:37] You're okay.

[9:38] Let's see.

[9:38] So option one was.

[9:40] We don't swap anything out.

[9:42] Right.

[9:42] We read with what we currently have.

[9:44] Yes.

[9:45] All right.

[9:46] That is.

[9:47] I think that's just affordable for us.

[9:49] We wouldn't have to look for money somewhere.

[9:53] I don't understand.

[9:54] We would use our existing meters.

[9:56] we have in the ground today, but we would put new readers on them.

[10:00] So, we have a vehicle trading system, it's a dry supply system, the same one that you've used

[10:05] to read these radios, switches and will change frequencies so that it will pick up your current

[10:10] frequency on the i-tron radios. So, for the time being, you're no longer going to be using a

[10:16] badger reading system, you can switch the senses and still read your i-tron nerds using the drive

[10:21] by unit. I thought a lot of you could continue using the i-tron nerds and get a little more

[10:26] I found them, right, but as always begin to die and you swap those out over to swap them up to this.

[10:31] We talked about maybe every year, get $20,000 or so, $25 with a meter, swap them out till you have your whole system right by.

[10:40] So how much is one?

[10:42] One meter?

[10:43] Yeah, 20,000.

[10:44] How many is that by?

[10:46] Ah, well.

[10:47] So there's just a little repeat.

[10:49] Okay, go ahead.

[10:50] So you're meter by, sir.

[10:52] It's sort of three quarter inch meters.

[10:53] plugs in and then this year. That's your one-inch meter and then that's the radio.

[10:58] What a lot of them. That attaches to them all. So, that's what it says.

[11:03] Yeah, because that's what it says. Yeah. Yeah. So, this is just my change these. I've got this in

[11:07] a spreadsheet where we change one of these. It'll calculate how much the system is and how long

[11:12] it will come to be. And I actually thought about that after the fact that I'm going to re-killing

[11:16] that has also read this at the same time once you get it. So, $40,088 is how many meters.

[11:22] that's all of them to put in the readers on well that's just the easy link reading system yeah

[11:28] so that's right right yes so we don't switch out any meters or radios but we

[11:35] cross out all the reading equipment yes make this way we can read those icons

[11:41] so this is a fair minimum in my opinion what we should be doing right moving to a better

[11:49] system that will read, yeah, I don't know if that is, I don't know if that is, I don't

[11:53] know if it is going to give those roots to it, and then just over a year we will

[11:56] swap some out, swap them, okay. But the one just swap out is at the same

[12:01] reading system.

[12:04] If you put a whole, let's say you do this now and then you start

[12:07] swapping them out over time as they go bad, right? You put the same reading system

[12:12] on the new ones? The new ones? Yeah. Yeah. So if the same as if you swapped

[12:18] all these out now and then say next year you're in place three you'd care what they would

[12:22] have the same reader so the same reader was eight or more just yeah but there's also an option

[12:27] too yeah okay come on yeah we got a few options yeah yeah this is just a cheap one I know let's see

[12:36] that's one of the next next level here so this one was an option of let's keep all of your

[12:48] Essentially the same list, the top section doesn't really change at all, except for we

[12:52] lose a couple of the software fees. Because we're no longer trying to read any iphone

[12:57] arts, we take them out of the ground. It saves us between 15 and 20,000 in software fees

[13:02] that you just put towards radio.

[13:06] So this one kind of doesn't change anything.

[13:20] So you can

[13:21] see in the bottom group, I put down the number I had was 262. That might be off, we can

[13:26] just that. But this gives us a good idea of where we're at. So this would be 262

[13:32] wired radios. So we would splice those to the battery meters. We wouldn't have to change

[13:38] out any of the meters in the ground. We would just swap out how to communicate. So we'd still

[13:43] be getting the same readings. I love both battery meters first as long as we can, you know,

[13:49] until they freeze and we want to swap them out until we can actually excavate the pit and

[13:55] We already hate them, so we're to that point.

[14:01] I'll put a longer view on the way.

[14:04] The caveat on the first deal we're leaving in and we just read what's there.

[14:09] It's not going to change the behavior of those icons.

[14:12] The iPhone XR was there.

[14:14] The ones that you struggle to read now are still going to struggle to read.

[14:20] I've been told it reads better.

[14:22] We can even bring it out and read your system for you. We can do a demo and actually read the meters and just see

[14:28] You know, hey, this is going to take us 12 hours or an hour, right, right, using the new system.

[14:36] That kind of events, right? So, so keep that in mind. It doesn't change the icons at all.

[14:42] What changes how fast this is going to read and the way it communicates back is that radio right there.

[14:47] So this option too leaves everything in the pipe, right?

[14:51] That's really even when I'm going to touch it, we're just going to swap out the way it's talking.

[14:55] I'm going to cross the way with that 520 video.

[15:00] Well, I'm sorry, go ahead. So the ones that we are having problems with and you say that really won't change it, can we, if we switch the meters out on just those, problem areas with that, is that something we could do? Yeah.

[15:18] So we just basically go with option one because we're still going to be reading all of the

[15:23] iPhone ready.

[15:24] Let's just get you one lots of meters and radios going forward with something to just

[15:29] start off with and you go to your problem children, right?

[15:32] The ones that I'm talking about won't make your reader easier.

[15:36] Well, I have problems today with some that normally read good last time.

[15:43] Well, you don't know which ones they are every time, so it's different.

[15:50] Can you do that swap out of the water just smoke to ice around and throw it in the

[15:54] line from parking?

[15:55] Oh, Steve.

[15:57] Yeah, you actually do Steve.

[15:59] Why?

[16:05] Why?

[16:06] Why?

[16:06] Why do you fire?

[16:06] Can you not smoke?

[16:08] Yeah, again.

[16:14] Which one?

[16:16] I was a pleasure.

[16:16] Come on, Rick.

[16:18] Well, let's move on to the bigger, that's the package.

[16:24] The gold center.

[16:27] Yeah.

[16:27] Gold silver bronze.

[16:28] Yeah.

[16:29] Well, I'll tell you this is everything, right?

[16:33] We're still doing right by.

[16:35] But we're swapping out all of the meters and we need to go.

[16:39] I've got the estimated number of three quarter inch, one inch, two inch and three inch.

[16:43] Along with the radius for each one of them,

[16:49] right?

[16:49] That's the 100,000 bar.

[16:51] Do you take payments?

[16:54] Yeah, yeah, we can figure that out.

[16:58] Okay, so this is all in, and they will.

[17:01] Now, giving you those numbers there,

[17:04] I also want to give you a cellular off.

[17:08] Now, radio-reel versus cellular.

[17:12] There's advantages to both, right?

[17:14] Radio-reel, if you think about ever going fixed,

[17:17] but if we're really ever going to entertain standing in a tunnel

[17:20] to a building, or next to a pump house, you know something like that, and you're going to have

[17:25] an antenna broadcasting out to these radios all the time. It's very expensive on the radio

[17:31] reach side. It's less expensive on a cellular. So the idea is if we're really going to entertain

[17:38] that, where we want to have a central collector, we don't have to drive around ever, it's just

[17:43] constantly. Just Tori have a central collector like that? They don't. They drive around

[17:47] the handheld to the front cast out. So they actually don't even have, so there's 40,000

[17:52] dollar system. We only have one that does quite that. They just have the handheld and

[17:57] right around that. It picks up a couple of blocks away.

[18:01] Okay, vehicle, you can take them up.

[18:03] Is that in my own story?

[18:08] So cellular,

[18:11] we can't control what Verizon does with the network. That's the hardest part of our cellular.

[18:17] Anybody who can offer a cellular radio, it will tell you the exact same thing, right?

[18:22] Rising cares more about data, they care more about Facebook than they do about one meter.

[18:27] So, as far as that goes, it's a very easy system to deploy.

[18:33] It's very cheap to deploy and maintain.

[18:37] But that being said, I can tell you, 4G was going to go in next year after we saw these radios.

[18:42] And then from there, since this might come to the table and say, hey, we're going to be a 50%.

[18:47] This count gets you on some 5G radios, but the law, according to our investing, 50% of the radios for more time.

[18:55] So, I like the cellular idea because of the cost when we're talking about AMI.

[19:01] I'm bringing in the data that way. AMI brings in data to give an hourly log of usage 24 hours a day.

[19:08] So you have no exactly what someone is using when they flush the toilet.

[19:12] It's too fluffy.

[19:12] The morning you log in and see that, right?

[19:14] See that.

[19:15] And the easier to spot the leaks out.

[19:17] That's for nice sand.

[19:18] It's very easy to spot leaks.

[19:20] Now at the front of my system, you'll also get leaked.

[19:22] But you'll only get the leaked worms.

[19:24] You get your drug dry.

[19:25] Right.

[19:28] So it's still a smart system.

[19:29] It's still very intuitive.

[19:31] But if you're really worried that I'll make sure you

[19:33] around the lock and right or you just bank on the fact that you're going to see those

[19:39] when someone's going to break that high usage okay so how much if you're going to

[19:44] cost per year just to just to read the meters well so let's find out how much

[19:49] this salient is the cellular it's about the same as the breath by doing that when it

[19:57] comes to the deployment in the cost symbol the hard part about salient is we can

[20:05] I read your icons for you with this system, right?

[20:09] We swap everything out.

[20:11] You mean we can stick with what we have,

[20:14] big, big, big meters, we have right now.

[20:16] Is that what you're saying?

[20:17] At least not the radios.

[20:20] We'd have to at least swap out all of the radios

[20:22] if we went sideways.

[20:24] Yeah, and get those over the other side that come in.

[20:26] You would have to grab around anymore, right?

[20:28] And those reads it's going to cross.

[20:30] But all of your reads, I'm guessing,

[20:32] you're going to be in 1,000 gallons.

[20:34] coming across so that leak resolution, or that usage resolution, is not that fine.

[20:39] You're only going to see a type of usage every thousands of gallons.

[20:44] Instead of every time someone flexes, right?

[20:49] So something to consider.

[20:50] When I compared the prices on the cellular versus drive by,

[20:54] I couldn't not present that as an option to do very, very comparable.

[21:00] That being said, the drive-by system, the radioreat system, I'll be at its more expensive

[21:05] to stand up the tower, it is my gradeable.

[21:08] So we could do the drive-by system for now with the radioreat and someday down the road,

[21:13] we want to entertain the tower, we can do that, we can talk about toast.

[21:17] And we can migrate using the exact same radios as what's in the ground.

[21:22] So you can do the drive-by for now and then I'm a grader.

[21:26] A grader.

[21:27] So I effort you and you are the mayor of this town and we have a living budget, which one would you do?

[21:35] Which one do I do?

[21:36] Knowing how well we drive by system reads and if our goal is reads, I would do the drive by system.

[21:45] Which one?

[21:46] I do the first one that gives you the ability to read your current icons.

[21:52] Continue reading the system that you have.

[21:54] We have already invested money in that system.

[21:56] Right, he's already got money in those meters and radio, so let's not toss them up in the garbage quite yet

[22:02] Let's read them for a little while and we'll just take them out as they fill

[22:05] So before the

[22:07] What ever thousand?

[22:10] Yeah, that's what I would do at a bare minimum right if we were really talking hey, we don't have a whole lot of money this year

[22:16] We want to be responsible with the current infrastructure that we have

[22:19] That's what I do.

[22:21] But I know it worked better because you also send the icon back in.

[22:26] Get somebody to read for me.

[22:30] I call to get a confirmation on the trade of the program. I haven't heard back yet. We have a program that you can actually trade in the radio to discount the song. I'm just seeing if that's still an act of the radio that we have in action.

[22:43] Yeah. So, in terms of the warranty, you talked about 20 years, is that with the whole system?

[22:50] or is that if we do the first second options, is that still lack warranty?

[22:56] So the warranty is on the metrology itself. So meters, videos, everything that's out in the ground

[23:01] in the field, that's all about 20 years. So the actual reading equipment carries a one-year warranty.

[23:10] But I give it that I use yesterday to do the demo. It's 15 years old. Really? Yeah.

[23:16] It's better out of the long time.

[23:18] So we're great.

[23:20] Yeah.

[23:20] So anyone's are a lot of fans of you.

[23:21] They're actually a little bit smaller.

[23:23] Honey Bluetooth instead of passing around a USB cable with laptop.

[23:26] They Bluetooth to laptop.

[23:28] So they're a little bit better.

[23:29] I'm going to give you a deal in here for these days.

[23:33] I guess don't fix what's not for us.

[23:34] Right.

[23:36] So let's say we went with this package.

[23:38] Would Jed himself just install all the readers?

[23:43] Yep.

[23:43] I don't know how to do it.

[23:48] The last, the actual radio is themselves on the warranty that we've had sent back,

[23:53] we're testing the batteries in them. Even though they've got a 20-year warranty there,

[23:56] it's specuing to go about 26 years before they have done that.

[24:00] So at that point, it's generally retired hopefully.

[24:04] It's just like 20 years, not about maybe Jeff, we'd be older one.

[24:09] You guys might be dead, man Jack, you're the long-time way to go.

[24:15] I can't. Yeah, you three of you.

[24:18] You've got pulse and service your tire, and you'll be retired.

[24:20] Carial still be around.

[24:22] In 20 years?

[24:23] Not maybe at this table.

[24:25] No, I'm definitely not going to be at this table.

[24:31] Okay.

[24:32] Do you guys have any other questions?

[24:33] Take a family to film being here.

[24:37] Hi.

[24:38] I do have one more question.

[24:40] So if we go with option one, that's just that thing, right?

[24:47] That's just the reader.

[24:48] That's just the reader.

[24:49] That's what I mean.

[24:50] That's the reader.

[24:51] That's the reader.

[24:52] But we're still going to have some problems on some of the problems.

[24:57] When we have now, we'll still be problematic.

[25:00] So what's your estimate on how long it would take him to do it?

[25:03] It depends on how many problems we have, I guess, right?

[25:07] I can't exactly tell you how fast the iPhone radios are going to read because I've never read your system.

[25:14] But I can say that it has to experience, so I can get you contacts for Lehigh, Salem City, and Eagle Mount.

[25:22] They've all done the easy link system that reads the iPhone Earths.

[25:26] They can tell you how fast it reads.

[25:30] Eagle Mount reads, I think they still read through 4,000 radios.

[25:34] I try nerds with theirs.

[25:36] How fast can Tori do theirs, do we know?

[25:38] Oh, that's fast.

[25:39] It's basically an option one.

[25:41] What Tori has?

[25:44] Step up from Tori.

[25:46] Sorry, it's option two.

[25:48] No, no, this is one step up from what Tori has.

[25:52] Tori has it.

[25:53] It's that old thing that, yeah, it's the old, old handheld build.

[25:58] But this would do at least as good as Tori.

[26:00] So if toy does one hour, we can do faster than that.

[26:05] That way it's changing.

[26:06] He won't do it.

[26:08] He won't do it on 1450.

[26:10] We can get, we can get a box of eight and change out.

[26:13] Yeah, that's what I did.

[26:15] That's what I did.

[26:16] That's what I did.

[26:17] If you had, if you had a box of them there,

[26:19] eight or ten of them and one of them's bad, just switch it.

[26:23] We got to wait for a moment.

[26:24] But Jack said,

[26:29] I'm good. Hey, sorry, but you have seen them after hours. I'm over here in Dicknell and we're talking about meters.

[26:36] Water meters are reading. We have the question come up of how fast is it? How long does it take for you to read their system? Put their hand out.

[26:44] right now all it takes about six hours six hours and that's with

[26:49] the handle that's with the engine I'm not and I have collected and checked the

[26:55] mileage and I'm not about it takes me that's about me one miles three and every

[27:00] lot each is quite stretched out but you've got some of our radios in the

[27:05] system on you're quite a long bunch of radios okay I have we don't have

[27:10] You've got to have some of the consensus of the version of the eye-chroner based on it.

[27:14] Yeah.

[27:14] What about the catch?

[27:16] Wrinkle case.

[27:17] Oh, catch that guy.

[27:21] Ask him, hey, Dustin, how many meters are you reading down there?

[27:32] Oh, so, yeah.

[27:34] So we even feel it's three hours.

[27:38] Yeah.

[27:38] So we haven't been quite there with the new 20s.

[27:41] Because the new 20s, as soon as I turned the radio, the eyes held on it.

[27:55] but everything instantly from the town hall.

[27:57] It reads a root town hall using the drive by,

[28:00] not the drive by.

[28:01] It's just an animal.

[28:03] Just an animal, just an animal, just an animal.

[28:04] So we'll sort of be a little faster than that.

[28:07] It will be way faster.

[28:09] You know, you're right, it's just a little faster than that.

[28:10] Send a CNC, start going that way.

[28:12] That's the first one.

[28:12] Right.

[28:15] Okay, Dustin.

[28:16] Awesome.

[28:16] I appreciate your answer.

[28:17] Thank you.

[28:19] I will see you in that later.

[28:21] Yeah, he's currently taking out.

[28:23] So since it's prior to owning a frequency, they have a frequency radio called the 520R.

[28:29] It's equivalent to the iPhone, it operates very, very similar.

[28:35] And they've got about 60% of their system is still lost.

[28:39] So they're not totally switched over.

[28:42] I didn't think about that.

[28:44] So as it does, they'll take them about six hours.

[28:47] You said that the 75, 520R.

[28:50] Yeah, it does.

[28:50] Those instantly when he turns it on, it's sharp.

[28:52] Yeah, it is the 520 amps, but we would get an option one.

[28:56] That's all I can offer, you know, I don't even sell the ears anymore, it doesn't do.

[29:01] So, it's possible that we could read them all from here, that we in this one.

[29:06] Very quick, yeah.

[29:07] Except that maybe we can play.

[29:09] So, that's not option one, that's option two, right?

[29:13] Faith, a little bit smaller.

[29:16] I hate to bring up faith because they're kind of a...

[29:19] They're a little bit of a mess, but...

[29:21] We just don't want to conduct any business with them.

[29:26] But they turn their system on.

[29:29] They have an actual drive by unit at town hall.

[29:33] And it picks up all that their spring leader and the spring is a problem out.

[29:37] So that's when they have to drive, they drive to the stop sign on the highway.

[29:39] And then they'll pick it up.

[29:40] And it picks it up.

[29:41] So a couple blocks in their duct.

[29:44] But it drives the entire system.

[29:46] That'd be nice, Jim.

[29:47] That's probably the best thing here.

[29:48] So I'm thinking if you really really similar here. Maybe not four minutes, maybe ten minutes, but you need things better than twelve hours.

[30:01] So how long is it take to install one, how fast one you swap out immediately?

[30:08] The activation portion is two to three minutes.

[30:11] So turn the radio on.

[30:12] The two hundred.

[30:13] The action meter itself.

[30:15] Part of not mean or stuff.

[30:17] If you can get it within arms, 90, 50, 70, 10 minutes.

[30:24] So worst case scenario, let's say 20 minutes per week.

[30:27] Yeah, if you had to dig a hole, maybe it might be a little warmer.

[30:29] Let's say you got to lift that.

[30:31] You want me to hold your feet?

[30:32] Hold your feet.

[30:33] I'm going to say, wouldn't you link you down in there?

[30:35] We should talk about this.

[30:38] I agree.

[30:38] I agree, too.

[30:39] This is way, this is way better.

[30:42] Yeah.

[30:43] I'm top of the performance of the system.

[30:45] I've got three guys in the state that this is all of the idea.

[30:49] It's go out and support the system.

[30:52] So I know each one of them on top.

[30:54] Some days they mean I love it as much as others.

[30:56] But most days they love what they do.

[30:57] And we love to have all of the place to take care of people, so you've got the support.

[31:04] So that's not going to happen.

[31:05] That's what we have with Bridger.

[31:07] So if we need a support, you guys physically come in here.

[31:12] Do you guys charge us for that on top of that $4,000?

[31:16] Or is it?

[31:17] It's all of the discounts covered in $4,000 per year.

[31:21] Now that $4,000 goes to census, right?

[31:25] Mount Wyand, they pay for my time, you'll have to, so it works out pretty good, and we do

[31:33] all the warranty work for you as well. So as stuff goes bad and you take it out of the

[31:37] ground, I'm going to talk about this yesterday, which due to truck rolls, I'm already on that

[31:43] second truck roll, if it's still not working, you have to go back, take it out of the ground,

[31:48] if they have a 20 year warranty for a reason. So take them out, you deactivate them, put them

[31:53] about send them to me. I ship them to census for you. That doesn't cost anything either.

[31:59] And I have census direct ship all the product directly back to you so it doesn't get lost

[32:03] on my warehouse when I come back. So they'll send it directly back here and you get

[32:07] ready to send it back to us instead. That's great. Exactly. Now the whole system, all

[32:20] radio, you can actually take this arc here and see kind of what the radio entails. This is

[32:28] just a little box basically that holds all this together. There's no battery to swap

[32:33] that in there. So that black parts, which sits on top of the lid. Yeah, that part. Yeah,

[32:37] this part right here. Okay. So in the installation process, you're going to thread this

[32:41] nut here and slip that through the lid and that portion is what's above the lid there.

[32:47] No, no, that's doing it's just holding it on hold. I didn't know right. It isn't a 10. Yeah, what is an 10?

[32:53] Yep, so it does broadcast the signal for you.

[32:55] But there's a wire to look up to the one we have.

[33:01] Your bow, the battery, the other hand.

[33:04] Oh yeah.

[33:05] Yes, yes.

[33:08] How often is those?

[33:10] The wire.

[33:10] The wire's getting broke.

[33:11] I want it to go.

[33:12] I've never tried that out.

[33:14] Oh, it's been super those yeah, how expensive were those I see those being broke

[33:22] These are about 25 bucks. Okay. Those are the ones I'll get what this is like, the snowplow

[33:27] lower's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I do carry a lot of these in stock. I'll bet you

[33:36] Yeah, yeah, for that barrier reason, I don't know if that's a good back load of them.

[33:43] Yeah, well, we got one helper that's kind of like you don't want to touch my shop.

[33:47] We want to allow you out.

[33:49] I need to broke a couple of them.

[33:53] Hey, well, any other questions?

[33:57] Nothing.

[33:58] But I think we'll talk about it.

[34:00] Yeah, absolutely.

[34:02] Thanks for listening.

[34:02] Yeah, appreciate it.

[34:03] Thank you. Thank you. Are you over in the reach of the warrior?

[34:08] What are you?

[34:10] I'm out of war. I live in Santa Cruz.

[34:13] But I come down to the bullet at any time I can.

[34:17] I'm going to give us a discount. I'll show you where the best links to fish are.

[34:26] This hand help by the way. You get one of those with the advice.

[34:29] That's how you turn the videos on, how you connect to them.

[34:33] We talked about something we didn't talk about here was the hourly log that we talked about

[34:37] with the 24-hour broadcasting that I don't mean to our, the radios and meters do that themselves

[34:43] regardless.

[34:44] So at any time in jet, you can go out just manually connect to a radio with a handheld

[34:49] and pull that day to yourself.

[34:51] So you still get that hour and a clock.

[34:53] So that would be pretty nice and new to show us the end.

[34:56] Yeah, if you were, if you were suspicious of something, you could go ahead and

[34:59] check it out.

[35:00] Also, if you have a meter that you can automatically turn off and on for the people that

[35:08] we have at 10 o'clock in the morning.

[35:13] And so they can turn it on themselves.

[35:16] Exactly.

[35:17] Yeah, there's no ability to adjust that note from the outside.

[35:20] So it's a three-stake.

[35:23] It does open closed and that does a low flow where they basically grill the end hole through

[35:28] ball about, because in a wonderful state of California you can't leave somebody with a

[35:34] life giving a water. So they can shut people down, but that will maintain a little

[35:41] trickle. It can just a little trickle so they can fill in last one water. It here, it

[35:44] actually works out really well, so if you're going to show off some energy, you're not

[35:47] risking freezing the heater. So you just turn it down to the most low flow state. And

[35:52] still flow. It's still flowing. A lot of won't freeze. That would be nice. Yeah,

[35:58] So that one's a fun perfect with the fixed base.

[36:00] You can actually still do that with the handheld too.

[36:04] So you don't necessarily need to fix base systems to do that.

[36:08] You just go drive out in front of the house,

[36:11] connect the radio, actually, to the valve and then drive off.

[36:13] You just do everything that you need to do.

[36:15] So you stuck it taking me on the same thing.

[36:18] So does that look like you didn't basically

[36:19] take a part of your water?

[36:21] Yeah.

[36:22] Well, with your drizzle, but that's it.

[36:26] I know, for them, if they opened up the pit and looked at the valve, it would be in the open

[36:30] saying.

[36:30] Right.

[36:31] They just wouldn't get water.

[36:35] Oh.

[36:37] Oh, nice.

[36:39] Oh, fun toys.

[36:39] How long have we had, or...

[36:42] I'm taking 2011, 2011, and there.

[36:45] So the readers and I have been replacing them in 2012.

[36:49] It's one Jeff Allbrick.

[36:50] I remember.

[36:50] Yep.

[36:51] I remember.

[36:53] Yeah

[36:55] It's one

[36:57] Josh Brown found out steam bugs bite. Yeah. Yeah, what's out?

[37:03] Crawled in his butt cracks fitting in his own wig now because he did things think bugs fit

[37:23] Thank you very much, Senator.

[37:25] Do you want to make Santa Clinton?

[37:28] Thank you.

[37:30] Well, when we get back with you, we have our meeting that we actually vote next Thursday.

[37:36] So you'll probably hear from us during the meeting. I brought a lot of numbers today that were just different scenarios of how to approach the same thing.

[37:46] So if you have any questions during that meeting, you may call.

[37:48] When I'm not every one of the clubs.

[37:49] Okay, perfect.

[37:51] Yeah, thank you.

[37:52] Thank you.

[37:55] Thank you.

[38:00] I'm going to put these back.

[38:02] Okay, we'll see ya.

[38:06] All right, so, go ahead then.

[38:11] I don't know if you heard me carry you more care, but they came here to the demo, was

[38:16] yesterday?

[38:17] Mm-hmm.

[38:17] Yeah, was yesterday.

[38:19] So, he took some of his meters out and placed them all around town.

[38:23] When they're down to the pit farm, with that concrete bulb, is that?

[38:30] Mm-hmm.

[38:31] uh one over by uh

[38:33] lease storage units, lacing jacus storage units

[38:37] one over here at the shop

[38:39] and then one at the end of these

[38:41] is that right?

[38:42] all together

[38:43] in the church

[38:44] in the church

[38:45] went out into a truck and he turned on the system

[38:48] as soon as he turned on and hit read

[38:50] it's in the second

[38:52] it read all of those

[38:53] yeah it's in the second

[38:54] why were you never going to have to leave the shop pretty amazing?

[38:58] that's pretty impressive

[38:58] they don't have so much

[39:00] other time. Oh yeah, so much other stuff.

[39:05] Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to fly to this taking

[39:09] me. I didn't have to do the first time in this time 12 hours this time. Right. I don't know.

[39:16] Yeah, but we are bringing them with us. They have a reader. The other software was there. I mean

[39:24] Scott has literally dried and he had happened.

[39:28] But this new software, which we can't use the old software.

[39:32] We can't use the old handheld.

[39:34] It just, it's also, it's just...

[39:37] It doesn't keep connected to itself.

[39:39] Right.

[39:39] They're not the right way to reconnect.

[39:40] Connect, connect, connect.

[39:42] Rebooted, turn this off, turn it on.

[39:45] Yeah, then you want to know what did it really catching, read, and what did it save.

[39:49] And then soon I have to go out.

[39:54] Wow.

[39:55] So let me ask you all the questions. So the 40,088 would we buy that whole thing this year?

[40:04] Yes. So that's the out-of-pocket is 40,998.

[40:09] And then we would have a system.

[40:13] That would be a field.

[40:15] We probably ought to get a case of meters.

[40:18] Yeah, so this 41,000, you probably at least out of by 12 more meters.

[40:23] So the ones at our grill, he can swap them.

[40:26] Question is what about the $70,000, $3,000 each of all the readers with this?

[40:32] No, I wonder if that's true.

[40:35] Does it comes with all the readers, $262 readers?

[40:38] We could read it.

[40:40] Yeah.

[40:40] And they work on a payment plan.

[40:42] I'm not sure what I'd like to go to, but we have this.

[40:46] We have, we probably don't.

[40:48] We have it now.

[40:50] Yes.

[40:50] Who would expect or start off very slowly for the next year?

[40:55] What's that?

[40:56] We have kind of extra in the budget for what we would expect for Scott's wages.

[41:03] Yeah.

[41:03] We would have to open the budget.

[41:05] If we were this, we would have to open our budget.

[41:07] Oh, definitely.

[41:08] And move some stuff around.

[41:10] But do we have it?

[41:14] Yes.

[41:15] The 173.

[41:16] Well, we're talking about this jet.

[41:17] The fall work thing come out.

[41:19] When you get in these situations, you're going to have first-in-meters or you've dug a

[41:24] transfer and you're down there. Call someone to be there with you.

[41:29] I went a lot of times with Scott. I'm also going to be with the system.

[41:34] I'm just right here on the other side of the way you do so.

[41:37] You know, you call Carrie, Kelsey's home?

[41:41] Yeah, I'm usually, I mean, it might take me a few minutes to get him to teach them, but I can't

[41:52] So this is our attachment.

[41:55] Yeah, how much is it?

[41:55] Do not put yourself in matter positions.

[41:58] I went with a lot of times he'd call me, just, you know.

[42:02] You come wondering, I'm a person who shouldn't grab his stomach.

[42:04] You can't bend.

[42:05] Yeah.

[42:06] A lot of his stomach.

[42:08] 30,000 more.

[42:09] And you get everything.

[42:10] You get everything.

[42:10] I'm home.

[42:12] Most of the time.

[42:13] I would be towards the second one.

[42:16] I make sure I'm pretty safe.

[42:18] So, let me explain that.

[42:20] You guys that are most familiar with this.

[42:22] So, went on the demo on everything yesterday.

[42:25] What does the second option give us that the first dozen,

[42:29] in terms of time and investment and longevity and use?

[42:34] If we buy the first one to the second one,

[42:36] does it give us more capability than the first one?

[42:39] I mean, I know we have new radios, and they should last longer, but what else are we getting?

[42:47] What?

[42:47] How's your job in the easier?

[42:51] The one you're starving to make for your

[42:57] coming up in the world of the system.

[43:00] I know, right now they didn't get it done quicker.

[43:03] Oh yeah.

[43:04] Oh 100%.

[43:04] My car's faster.

[43:06] It'll take time to swap everything up.

[43:08] Once it's done.

[43:09] It will be way better.

[43:12] Because even if you spent the 40,000 right now, it's going to save money in his time.

[43:18] Because it can still read our existing stuff.

[43:21] But if you put the new stuff in with the 70,000, it'll be even better.

[43:24] Way better.

[43:26] Because it's already putting in the 262 radio.

[43:28] And all the new radio's going on.

[43:30] I think with the $73,000 one, that would take care of our troubled issues.

[43:35] Because they can already swap them out.

[43:37] Yes.

[43:37] and you wouldn't have to buy it. That's so many of the

[43:39] Turks. That's new. There's a new way. Yeah. Yeah. There's a new way. You'll still have to buy it. We'll stop to buy some meters. Yeah.

[43:47] But we get work towards replacing all the meters like over six, eight. So probably we would spend

[43:53] 17, maybe 80,000. Yeah. And then we get some meters to swap out. Yeah.

[43:59] Are there specialised meters for like the school and stuff? Yeah. And they're pricing. Yeah.

[44:05] So maybe we'll have to delete your 2000 for 3 years, just delete that.

[44:10] But even if you still, like if all you switched out with the radio, it still works with those 2 and 3,000, right?

[44:18] So.

[44:18] Like it goes just randomly.

[44:20] All you do is just put in any radio.

[44:23] So that could do it there, right?

[44:25] Yeah.

[44:25] Yeah, on some of those, I think that's the way to go with that.

[44:27] I just want the radio.

[44:29] That's sweet.

[44:31] SSR feeling tonight, or should we wait till next week?

[44:34] Well, I'll give you my feeling let's let's we get everybody to have a pretty good idea

[44:38] What we're gonna hope yeah, I'm I'm leaning towards 73. I am too with the case of meters

[44:46] What do you think Steve that's where I am we can do a lot of this. Yeah, yeah

[44:51] Yeah

[44:52] We got that

[44:55] Yeah, I just don't think it's very safe for him to stick it

[45:00] I don't even think we've lost a lot of money.

[45:03] I think we've lost a lot of money.

[45:04] I think we've lost a lot of money.

[45:06] I'll get you in the 20% or 25%.

[45:09] That's what I think. I think you'll make this back up on the stuff that's broke.

[45:15] Yeah.

[45:15] We probably won't.

[45:17] I'm going to be very happy because we're going to start getting water bills.

[45:20] Well, Terries, one of them, but I don't care.

[45:24] I think Terries is next.

[45:25] Is it working?

[45:26] Oh good. Do we charge the customer for them a new meter? No, no. I mean when you put in a new meter, there's a there's a fee

[45:35] I thought so. Yeah, but if it's a new builder something. Yeah, if it's a new one then yeah, but

[45:41] Like just for us to swap this to your house. No,

[45:46] that's right. That's why it comes out of the budget

[45:50] Yeah

[45:51] Okay, because there's been a price that we're pretty, you know, well I mean it makes more

[45:56] So, so I go at that in the case of meters, we're all more, the only thing that makes me

[46:00] question that is, when I asked him which one he would do, he said option, well yeah, because he's leaning

[46:05] towards the, we don't have a whole lot of funds and the stuff that's in the ground still

[46:10] reads, it would just be a new reader that would go and then eventually over time you'd

[46:14] have to swap them off. That's this option number two, which is you just go right

[46:18] that now and say, hey, this badger meter that's still reading good right now.

[46:21] We're just going to pull it out of the ground anyway.

[46:23] Yeah, so right now, we're going to swap the lead.

[46:25] So we're going to be electronic reader.

[46:27] Right.

[46:27] Not the meter.

[46:30] And it will work way better.

[46:32] Well, and one thing that you do get going with all of this stuff,

[46:34] as you this 4,000 bucks, she's going to come and look at it.

[46:37] And the last time that, uh,

[46:40] hey, for a special reason, they charge us $50.

[46:43] Just to show up.

[46:44] Just to stay right around with me for half a day.

[46:47] Tell me that that's what I like about it right there when he said that that that $4,000

[46:52] Covered that $4,000 a year

[46:54] Covers income and over here and and mountain land cover says time. Yeah, that ain't one dime out of art

[46:59] Yeah, other than a 4,000 a year. I just bet that's what I don't want to make it all bad

[47:04] I would do I would bet you in five years. I bet that's what I think where there's not a lot of my

[47:13] one meter

[47:14] me starting that's been sensitive to this walked out yeah so so I don't know if

[47:22] they're just going to stay be start going out the same time I don't know well

[47:27] that's about lived there with my trash so the electronics are gone out yeah not only in

[47:37] lost revenue and water but your mind the time the time is I mean my work you're going to make

[47:45] about 12 hours, it could have meant that.

[47:46] It just doesn't talk about it.

[47:47] To me, if you used to look and say,

[47:49] it's taken me 12 hours to read the meters around town.

[47:51] It's like my work, if you could read them faster than that,

[47:53] looking at the old gauge.

[47:56] But it's a matter of time.

[47:56] You know what I mean?

[47:57] How long will it take for how many months to install them off?

[48:03] But it were just slicing.

[48:04] That's a matter of five, ten minutes.

[48:07] Perfect, perfect.

[48:08] It's not the radio on.

[48:10] Depending on if they're like Chad,

[48:12] Bring it off, hit was completely buried in the wire rack on the bottom, and I had to dig that out, it took me 45 minutes to dig that out.

[48:19] Just to dig it out.

[48:21] I had to make shit with my shovel, I had to cut a shovel.

[48:24] So you can get a little.

[48:25] I had to take my torch and bend it and make a hook and then get a little pick.

[48:31] So why would it be like that?

[48:32] Does it flood into it or something?

[48:35] Why would it be like that?

[48:36] I mean, whoever did swap out was lazy with their job and didn't do it right.

[48:44] So it's been done.

[48:45] Maybe that's a lot of our issues here.

[48:47] So is it just been done by the bubble of the read?

[48:50] The dirt in there or something?

[48:51] I don't know.

[48:53] So just, I'm going to blow this thought out.

[48:57] This is a, we do it.

[48:59] Well, I know what.

[49:00] I think at some point in our budget, not this year, maybe not even next year.

[49:04] But we ought to think about a pop-hole trailer, a hundred-fax pop-hole trailer.

[49:13] I don't even know what that is.

[49:15] It's like a vacuum.

[49:16] Yeah, like the pressure washer, it's a great pressure.

[49:19] It sprays it and loosens up the dirt and then it sucks it out.

[49:22] With all the fiber optic and everything that you don't have to worry about,

[49:26] break and stuff, digging it up.

[49:28] So how much are those?

[49:30] A hundred and some.

[49:32] You put that on the C.I.B.L.S. which we could we should. That would be nice for

[49:38] even the gutters. That would be nice for a lot of the Tori that you got

[49:43] a broom. That's right. Well they just got a broom. They just got a broom.

[49:47] Do you think you'll want to get a deer with a broom attached? Oh, they did. Tori told me

[49:52] the other day. But still I'm sure there's something to work out. But I'm just saying

[49:59] Did you rent one of those? Probably somewhere. I'm just saying that we have to be

[50:04] working with the infrastructure that we have around. Right, I agree. And then

[50:09] liability, you dig through the fiber, obviously if I brought it. And cost?

[50:14] 100,000 CIV is a pretty low-asked. I would put it on the CIV list.

[50:20] One is that. Thank you. Yeah, you'd have to go for next year. You're too late this year.

[50:25] Did we get anything this year? No. No.

[50:28] Did you see that even from drop?

[50:30] I did.

[50:32] And I've got a meeting next Wednesday, 6 County.

[50:35] I can see the ID's on the agenda, so.

[50:38] I'd be able to find out a little more than that.

[50:42] Anyway, okay, so we're all in a grand school.

[50:45] What on that next week?

[50:47] We're going on with the 74,000.

[50:49] Yeah.

[50:49] Plus, do you major?

[50:51] Plus, yeah, in case of leaders.

[50:53] How much of the majors do you need to do?

[50:54] $100.

[50:57] Yeah, $177.

[50:58] $177.

[50:59] It depends on what size.

[51:01] Yeah.

[51:02] Get into the bigger ones.

[51:03] They're quite important.

[51:05] Yeah.

[51:05] But we have maybe a total of six ohms.

[51:08] Yeah, there's not a lot of them.

[51:09] And they're all pretty much new.

[51:12] Oh, there's a cool one.

[51:13] Oh, there's a cool one.

[51:14] Oh, there's a cool one.

[51:18] Oh, there's a cool one.

[51:19] Oh, there's a cool one.

[51:20] Yeah.

[51:20] It's $1,000 an inch.

[51:22] Yeah.

[51:27] So is it what's in two?

[51:30] Two thousand for that one?

[51:32] There's got to be something wrong with that one.

[51:34] No way, I haven't checked this month, but

[51:37] Yeah, it was really well left.

[51:38] Maybe we should just add that.

[51:40] And they're like physical actual, like he's getting the physical read.

[51:44] And it's only reading like 4,000 gallons.

[51:47] And they know where they're.

[51:48] Only using that.

[51:50] Yeah.

[51:50] I don't know what it is, but it's pretty correct.

[51:57] It's completely shut the whole system down.

[52:00] Going and check to see if they still have water.

[52:03] If they still have water, it's connected to the other region.

[52:07] Which we probably need to do, and if it's not, then turn it back on.

[52:12] But now, like, you get some pressure.

[52:14] So they have two meters one for the house and one for the motel.

[52:16] So the apartment, the motel and the pool is on one.

[52:23] The larger that and then the other set of rooms is on and up.

[52:26] On another one and the rest room.

[52:30] That's on the other one. There are three meters there. And like the convention center. Oh, yeah, that's another one. Yeah, my work. That's like it's a little water system on there. Yeah, they only use it to wash their, certainly, then they don't let anybody else use it. Because she come out when I think over here with me. Wonderful. What we were doing this and actually is that she was kind of, you know, yeah.

[52:58] But then there's another way you just to get five gallon bucket.

[53:02] Turn that on, throw that five gallon bucket, and if it measures five gallons here and five gallons here, then you're doing fine.

[53:09] And if it measures three gallons here and five gallons here, that should exist.

[53:15] Wow.

[53:16] Over.

[53:17] If they have a toilet that's leaking a half a gallon.

[53:22] And an hour per hour.

[53:24] Over a month.

[53:26] That's what did they say 20,000 gallons?

[53:30] It's a lot.

[53:31] I can show you my water bill.

[53:33] Because I had a week, he took a little momma off of this.

[53:36] Oh, considerable.

[53:37] Yeah.

[53:38] There's just a lot of figuring out what to do.

[53:43] But if we're going to do this or whatever,

[53:45] then we can just swap it out.

[53:46] I think let's get a meter for that.

[53:49] That was also said that he did send Scott.

[53:53] New meters.

[53:54] two three inch ones.

[53:56] Was three inch.

[53:58] Three because I thought this was Kevin.

[54:01] This is Kevin.

[54:02] This is Kevin on the top.

[54:03] Kevin Carter.

[54:04] No.

[54:05] No.

[54:05] Because I said I thought the school was two inch meters and he says no I think they're three because

[54:10] I had to sense got two three inch meters and he says they're both over there and I said

[54:15] Yeah they're right together.

[54:17] Yeah.

[54:17] But I thought they were two.

[54:18] I didn't know they were three.

[54:21] I don't think

[54:24] that's any.

[54:24] Well, water is our biggest revenue source.

[54:29] We've got to get that, right?

[54:33] Sorry.

[54:34] To ask you, Gary, who would we contact to get a hold of the Sunflow?

[54:39] We can call Casey Stewart.

[54:42] Okay.

[54:43] Yeah, he's overall the water systems.

[54:45] So he's really easy work.

[54:46] But I haven't been able to get a reason.

[54:48] Yeah, Casey, Casey is who you've been wanting to talk to.

[54:52] And they would be nice to maybe have a padlock to get into that in excess of if we think I got a key if it is that a yellow lock

[54:58] I just said for a service on it, you have sort of a I got a key if you need it I got one

[55:08] I got one

[55:09] I got one

[55:10] I got one

[55:11] I got one

[55:20] All right, let's move on, planning and zoning out.

[55:26] Okay, so our main thing to the only thing we did, I was we tried to bring back the ordinance

[55:39] that we decided that we're not going to do it in this separate ordinance, that it really

[55:45] It's in the building and zoning ordinance as a section and we're pretty firm on that and then we work through this once we put it in the building ordinance we could drop a lot of things off because we could reference things like section nine of this ordinance section seven of the ordinance we could drive drop off violation of a lot of stuff by putting it as just a section in the building and zoning ordinance.

[56:16] So, the only, so I, I emailed the tenant on who got a chance to read it and it's my room, so where's the, the, in red, where it says in the whole highway track to trailer with wheels removed, we took that out, but then I went for a walk and you see something.

[56:40] And we saw some.

[56:41] So they removed the wheels.

[56:43] And just recently, they've been put in.

[56:46] Oh, we need to put that back in.

[56:49] And can't it?

[56:49] Because what's the wheels are removed?

[56:51] Then it is just like we should be put in a container.

[56:54] And then it falls within this.

[56:55] Because we have taken out saying, you know, they have the wheels on and attacks differently.

[56:59] They're not a structure.

[57:02] But so I'm proposing that's why it's in red is I put it on the Google Docs for the planning commission.

[57:08] to leave it to put it back in and add with the nursery moved because I know too that

[57:17] just very recently had the place with the nursery moved and then is it less money to

[57:24] buy one of those than it is a container. I bet not even close but you could get them on an

[57:32] for cheap all that, a trailer like that. But they're not even close to the same.

[57:37] Well, we've got lots of them around.

[57:41] Yeah. Well, but if there are a few rules, you'll know that we know of it too.

[57:49] So anyway, so that's why that's in red. So that's the definition we've worked on.

[57:55] That would go in our definitions of the building and so in the definition.

[58:00] And then we have debated, you may not see, about permits, that will be interesting to see what you thought we, when I had read over at your last meeting, you talked about it.

[58:14] Jim, I think it's one that brought up. It was thrown around having a no fee building permit is required to place the shipping container on your property either temporarily or permanently.

[58:24] that would have to be something we would have to educate people to see a thing with even

[58:30] know that they have to do one because right now, you want to continue to just go get it.

[58:36] The only reason to even worry about that is because the whole reason this came up is because

[58:43] to even do or add is because why them to not be placed in closed view areas and to train

[58:52] So that's why that's why it wouldn't need a building permit.

[58:55] I don't know if you can build a building permit.

[58:57] Just to make sure that they're getting all those setbacks in there.

[59:00] And notice when you put applications,

[59:02] those things that we need to be planning, this would go review.

[59:05] It is just going to be placed.

[59:07] We just want to make sure it's not in the clear view.

[59:09] And it's setback and it's good.

[59:10] In fact, we don't think the town council should be bothered.

[59:14] We just think we can identify somebody on the planning commission to do it or whatever.

[59:20] But then, too, was the undersea, too, was the other reason we really felt it was kind of important to get this ordinance in place.

[59:30] These are this in the ordinance, is because they're being used for houses.

[59:36] And so we wanted to make sure that they're going to use them as a house.

[59:39] They only have to get a building over there.

[59:42] And that we said they are required to get a building for it to stop, stop, or use the houses or whatever.

[59:53] I have a question on age, talk, okay, it says all shipping containers must be kept free of care feeding.

[1:00:00] And advertisements, does that mean if they, even the ones that are in town now, they'd have to take them off?

[1:00:07] No, no. So advertisements, that's meaning.

[1:00:12] But use it as a sign. Like using it as a sign.

[1:00:15] For your personal business.

[1:00:16] For your personal business.

[1:00:16] For your personal business. They all have,

[1:00:18] They all have, like, their company logo on there.

[1:00:21] Yeah, company logo is on it.

[1:00:23] And we have to do anything about that.

[1:00:25] And they're not really advertising anything here.

[1:00:30] So, that's just we don't want to use it as a sign.

[1:00:33] We did think that in our sign portion of the ordinance that we put in our queue to go back

[1:00:40] and go through the sign portion of the building ordinance, just to make sure that we have

[1:00:46] that covered.

[1:00:48] We do say in the signs that can't be on a vehicle, it can't be the different things, it can't

[1:00:53] be placed, it can't be placed close to the road, but we did put on our queue that

[1:00:58] we might need to add one little thing probably a good idea to the side part, just solve it.

[1:01:05] So let's cover it under the side here.

[1:01:07] So let's cover it up the side.

[1:01:09] It's not like a permanent billboard.

[1:01:12] Yeah, and the only reason we stuck with the same setback as we have in for everything else is because

[1:01:22] we're going to call it a structure and if you remember all the debate about when we were trying

[1:01:27] what stuff actually be for Sheds and all of that.

[1:01:31] To simplify life, we agree on six feet.

[1:01:35] So if we keep that on the side, yes.

[1:01:40] Then we're not continuing.

[1:01:42] Although I know, I know problem with Westerns.

[1:01:45] It looks really great.

[1:01:46] I have no problem with it, but the other way.

[1:01:49] It's creepy.

[1:01:49] I realized it's how I was doing a good job.

[1:01:52] I have, there are so many, but I don't want to mention the answer to their fans and I, I really don't, I just put one out last week in on the song.

[1:02:03] And it's not being moved, I don't care what I'm talking about.

[1:02:06] And I know, I know so.

[1:02:09] So we, we have a hard time.

[1:02:12] We feel like it's important to have some things in place to protect ourselves.

[1:02:17] We also don't want to be a massive gateway and try to control every tiny little thing.

[1:02:23] We can't control what people do.

[1:02:28] We're talking about the first container in the yard.

[1:02:30] And I don't have my way to do this.

[1:02:32] So this is where we still live.

[1:02:34] We're down.

[1:02:35] I don't like the little bit.

[1:02:39] Our public arena is at 15.

[1:02:42] We need to do the public hearing and get that, and then we'll vote on one and send it to you for your sex.

[1:02:52] Time to work for you to vote on and you're off to the meeting.

[1:02:56] But any feedback and comments on anything on this?

[1:03:00] I think this looks good.

[1:03:02] I still think we ought to include traders with time.

[1:03:05] I know you guys think we can, but it's exactly the same purpose.

[1:03:10] So I know I'm alone with that time too.

[1:03:18] I see your point, and we've hated it and you've hated it and you've hated it, but when

[1:03:24] there's still on the tires, it's just like somebody's fifth wheel.

[1:03:28] Trogs.

[1:03:29] Trogs.

[1:03:32] Trogs.

[1:03:32] or other that are used for the same thing.

[1:03:35] It's just, they don't move, they don't go camp,

[1:03:38] and they just collect stuff.

[1:03:39] Yeah, and it's like on each side.

[1:03:41] Yeah, more of the trucks have advertising

[1:03:43] and so on and then the containers.

[1:03:46] Yeah, too.

[1:03:47] But what you're going to have is all of your residential

[1:03:49] place where people park those trucks.

[1:03:52] But you really have to look carefully at that sign ordinance

[1:03:54] because we're already advertising in this town.

[1:03:59] All kinds of soda pops and beer and all kinds

[1:04:02] stuff in our residential areas?

[1:04:06] Actually, the beer one is not interesting.

[1:04:09] It's a prison.

[1:04:11] It's a prison.

[1:04:12] And they don't sell it.

[1:04:14] So I think that one has a real advertisement.

[1:04:17] Not only that, it's so then posted to the town boundary.

[1:04:20] It would be a real deal.

[1:04:24] I'd like to see what you're saying.

[1:04:26] I'm just saying, maybe soon you're going to have signs all over in the residential area because

[1:04:30] people by him and because they're not controlled.

[1:04:34] But I don't think you can control it.

[1:04:35] I don't.

[1:04:36] I don't know.

[1:04:37] I mean, we've got nothing to do.

[1:04:39] We've got.

[1:04:40] And we weren't there.

[1:04:41] We've got everything.

[1:04:42] Well, it's really no different than the horse trailer or an M&D just bought three and put

[1:04:47] down there on there.

[1:04:48] What?

[1:04:48] Yeah.

[1:04:49] Yeah.

[1:04:50] And there makes all the stuff.

[1:04:53] And like I said.

[1:04:55] What are those?

[1:04:56] It's all the stuff.

[1:04:58] It's all the stuff.

[1:04:59] But there are some fifth wheels, some big trailer whistles, they're almost as big as those.

[1:05:04] And they have written all over them, Sierra, Camper, and they are.

[1:05:10] Yeah, I don't see a lot of different things.

[1:05:12] Yeah, but you could say if you don't move them after so long then and you use them for stories.

[1:05:21] I don't know.

[1:05:21] I just think you got a patrol that.

[1:05:24] How do I know how long that set there?

[1:05:26] Say, well, that's exactly the same type of a tire.

[1:05:30] OK, well, I lost.

[1:05:31] So we can't control what colored people think they're done.

[1:05:38] So we can't control what people have.

[1:05:40] I don't know.

[1:05:41] It has a separate line that we didn't want to go down,

[1:05:44] because we didn't know how to direct carry.

[1:05:48] It's exactly what we just kept saying.

[1:05:51] So anyway, any comments about the no-feet building

[1:05:55] I don't know if you can make a mess, I've had a full anything.

[1:05:58] I like the idea of putting it in your building ordinance, and I think it should look

[1:06:04] at science.

[1:06:06] And I think this, I've read a carefully twice, and I think it's good.

[1:06:10] Yeah.

[1:06:12] And we are going to definitely look at science, to see what we can do about science, because

[1:06:19] We already do have the science article out on vehicles to advertise your business, yeah, but they aren't business, yeah, I know the way they bought it, I don't, yeah, so okay, and and do you think that no fee building permit is a realistic to require and we're okay to do that are you even if nobody gets it at least we've got in a place that if we have to move one we can

[1:06:52] I mean, if not, I mean, to me, that's just letting them know what the setbacks are.

[1:06:58] Right, yeah.

[1:06:59] Or what the rules are basically.

[1:07:03] Right.

[1:07:03] Just so they, I mean, just so that when you do go set it in there, it's like, oh, I'm going to move that three more feet.

[1:07:08] Because we don't, we don't want to micromanate people.

[1:07:12] You are, then, property and what they want.

[1:07:14] That's the hardest part.

[1:07:15] I don't think it's as you walk those things.

[1:07:17] Right in the corner.

[1:07:18] My only concern is, no fee means to some people not important.

[1:07:24] Maybe.

[1:07:24] Yeah, I can see that too.

[1:07:27] But it does give you something to fall back on later.

[1:07:30] And that was that was us, because we definitely know what's going to commit a payability permit fee. And we don't want it.

[1:07:37] We don't buy the thing if they're going to put it on the yard or the way we've allowed them to.

[1:07:42] And most of the time they're already going to have the pads set before they even go pick it up.

[1:07:45] Yeah. Right. Exactly.

[1:07:49] So at least just to get a brilliant commitment to that.

[1:07:52] They are nice storage, by the way.

[1:07:55] I got mine to part my razor in.

[1:07:58] Fantastic. And we looked at building just a shed like Home Depot or this container was half more than half

[1:08:09] Well, I mean I built that shed when it's falling apart because this is just gets wet

[1:08:16] Yeah, yeah, there's bright. I mean, yeah, you don't get my cinnamon that mine's

[1:08:21] full of spiders. It's like it's so much better to go mouth. Yeah, they are nice. Imagine the colossal

[1:08:28] shit show. It was to set that container or a set. Yeah, I made him turn like this and that it was all

[1:08:41] cool. It would have been a three and a half hour movie, but they should have been a 30 minute job

[1:08:47] when it was like when she kept saying, I'm so sorry.

[1:08:51] Don't say sorry, just say get her done.

[1:08:53] No, fine, I'm like, you are not.

[1:08:55] You are not sorry, this is where you wanted it to be.

[1:08:58] So you've envisioned this the whole time.

[1:09:01] I thought it would rather than the client.

[1:09:02] No, it's been a free building for me.

[1:09:06] No, it's not, it's non-tars.

[1:09:09] I don't know.

[1:09:10] I think no, it's okay.

[1:09:11] I do too.

[1:09:13] But yeah, and again, other than trying to educate every so often

[1:09:17] and then his letter saying, you know,

[1:09:19] and giving him a purpose, I think people will complain

[1:09:22] if they understand the purpose.

[1:09:24] And the purpose is to protect the neighbors

[1:09:28] and protect the community.

[1:09:30] Mine was no more close to fence lines.

[1:09:32] I'm way, what have you guys seen it?

[1:09:34] Is it red at your house?

[1:09:36] Yeah, and it's the same color as my house.

[1:09:37] So it was just one, sorry.

[1:09:38] It's not red, it's not red.

[1:09:39] It's not red, it's not red, it's not red, it's not red.

[1:09:40] Because you walk around.

[1:09:41] Oh, you're not, you know, I walk every morning and there.

[1:09:43] All these sheds that are right on the property line,

[1:09:46] and it doesn't bother me.

[1:09:46] There are all these things that are breaking the way.

[1:09:50] It's just a botherry, but then again,

[1:09:53] if we stick with the stabbard, what we came up with,

[1:09:56] then we don't have to always get that.

[1:09:57] Have you looked at those stabbard?

[1:09:58] You look at brand rules.

[1:10:00] What a beautiful internship.

[1:10:01] What is the art to my event?

[1:10:05] What to be more smart to add?

[1:10:07] Under the C1.

[1:10:08] I wonder if another Santa Claus says,

[1:10:10] The reason the building permit is required

[1:10:13] is to make sure we don't violate clear view

[1:10:16] and meet setbacks or something like that.

[1:10:18] So they know why they're doing it.

[1:10:20] Well, yes, we might cause you that, that's true.

[1:10:25] But I don't know if anybody's ever

[1:10:27] going to read the in the ordinance.

[1:10:29] The whole thing is just so that if we have one,

[1:10:32] you can't just remove, we can say that.

[1:10:35] And this is, and then you can show it.

[1:10:37] The ordinance, and we can ask them to move.

[1:10:40] And then they can move it and put it up on that.

[1:10:43] Pettis stole.

[1:10:43] Yeah, what does that thing down to Tori?

[1:10:45] You don't know the story about that? No.

[1:10:48] They asked him to move it because he was in the park.

[1:10:51] They was in the park.

[1:10:52] So he just raised it.

[1:10:53] And so he moved it back and put it in the race.

[1:10:56] I wondered what was going on.

[1:10:59] It was going to be a sign.

[1:11:01] I think it was a sign.

[1:11:02] There's a sign.

[1:11:03] That's a sign.

[1:11:05] That's a sign.

[1:11:06] It looks terrible.

[1:11:07] It was horrible.

[1:11:08] And I thought it turned out to be a sign.

[1:11:10] And that's what we're trying to protect ourselves from.

[1:11:13] You haven't seen it.

[1:11:15] It's right past like right if you was right where studies was right on that corner.

[1:11:23] They have that thing raised up on this gravel pile.

[1:11:28] It's probably that eye.

[1:11:31] I think one of the things I think there was on right where old studies restaurant used to be like right in that where that little fly shop used to be you know that little house right in that corner.

[1:11:41] Right on the highway.

[1:11:45] Yeah, right there. You can't miss it if you drive down.

[1:11:54] Interesting.

[1:11:57] Anyway, any feedback will take.

[1:12:00] Perfect. It's good.

[1:12:02] Is that all you have, Ellen?

[1:12:04] We could add a steep, your concern.

[1:12:07] We could add on to this A, this under the floor.

[1:12:10] just say something about reasoning as to, it says for review, for review of the setback.

[1:12:19] Yeah, I'm planning a commission for review.

[1:12:21] I could add them to review setbacks.

[1:12:23] Bring something, so they'll understand.

[1:12:27] I think if you just put a review setbacks on there, that'd be fine.

[1:12:34] Something like that.

[1:12:36] Something like that.

[1:12:39] I can just hear people around town saying, why in the world, but they make me do a building permit.

[1:12:44] I know, well they will, and I can be in, but if we have any place, then we can, I don't know.

[1:12:51] I didn't get one, and we can ask you to move it.

[1:12:54] It's also not nice to know why they're up.

[1:12:58] All right.

[1:12:59] We ready to move on.

[1:13:00] Yeah, for that.

[1:13:01] So we're going to talk about the water ordinance.

[1:13:03] And I just realized I left my, let's let them on the camera.

[1:13:06] Oh, but a while back, Carrie printed our water ordinance out for all of us, and this is my one goal I want to get taken care of in case I do have to leave here.

[1:13:17] I would like to see the water ordinance updated.

[1:13:21] I sent her all over the comments. Okay.

[1:13:25] I just would like to get that in place.

[1:13:31] I think we really like, next work me, yeah, yeah, I know I put on this one, but the

[1:13:40] meter guy, that was the first one, yeah, yeah, I think next one, we should read over it together and

[1:13:49] the water or nuts, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, and then we have all to, we're gonna have to

[1:13:55] public hearing, I assume maybe not. I don't know what you would. Well, I don't. I wouldn't.

[1:14:04] Thank you. But I didn't want to check. I guess I definitely don't know what the last one we have, it was.

[1:14:09] Well, that yeah, I don't know what I was. I was never again.

[1:14:12] Very nice. Good schedule of meeting to go to the budget.

[1:14:16] I can then do that. Yeah.

[1:14:18] Yeah, because we're going to have to have a public hearing to open the budget.

[1:14:22] and put that in that 80 or something, so we get to just add on to that.

[1:14:31] Just add on to that, you know, by the way.

[1:14:35] But I'm well and maybe you guys are okay with it the way it is.

[1:14:38] I just, it's something we need to look at.

[1:14:41] I don't know if you can update it for a firm.

[1:14:44] And make sure all our teas are crossed and our eyes are dotted there.

[1:14:49] and in quarters.

[1:14:51] And grow.

[1:14:52] This can be a nice thing.

[1:14:55] And then that, where we.

[1:14:56] We can just put it up to the field.

[1:14:58] Yeah.

[1:14:59] Which.

[1:15:00] That's why the space schedules on here, the agenda, too, is because we need to add to the agenda, the reconnection fee, like when people tell us to call their meetingers.

[1:15:11] Can I have a question on that? They need to be, so to have it shut off, it's nothing but to have it reconnected.

[1:15:17] There is a fee.

[1:15:19] What about these people that, for only here in the summer and they should work that?

[1:15:28] except for me, okay, but I guess not even fees aside, like my neighbor down there has a

[1:15:34] water key and they turn their water meter off and on all that time. They're best to do that.

[1:15:40] No, it's in the ordinance that they're not said.

[1:15:43] I know that, Liz. So I mean, that might be one of the first things to change.

[1:15:48] That's why we have problems with some of them.

[1:15:50] That's why I wonder, you know, because he said,

[1:15:53] automatic shot off the subject of the trickle and the center of that meter that way is

[1:16:01] town property that's right that way is there right

[1:16:07] should we put locks on those

[1:16:14] yeah I mean they've done it for years it's not never been a problem but we don't know if

[1:16:25] It's been a problem. Maybe that's why we have some problems.

[1:16:27] What do you want to make me?

[1:16:30] It's a buzz.

[1:16:32] I like to train it.

[1:16:34] I mean, it's a long cypress there, but it doesn't have a song.

[1:16:39] And it's no matter the fact that they don't know what they're doing.

[1:16:42] They go there.

[1:16:43] Open it and open it.

[1:16:44] Do you break it?

[1:16:45] Yeah.

[1:16:46] Then you're going to have to replace the whole thing on.

[1:16:48] But are they going to say, well, I ain't do that.

[1:16:50] Right.

[1:16:51] Well, of course they'll say that.

[1:16:53] Just that'll be on the townside.

[1:16:55] That's probably something we ought to put out to the public maybe.

[1:16:59] That you can't mess with them.

[1:17:02] Yeah.

[1:17:02] I don't want to be able to do this later.

[1:17:04] Yeah.

[1:17:09] Anyway, we're thinking about that and we will definitely work on it.

[1:17:13] Of our next water.

[1:17:14] You got it.

[1:17:15] Work meaning.

[1:17:16] Calcy, do you want to take the fee schedule?

[1:17:19] Right.

[1:17:19] Just tell us.

[1:17:20] Yeah.

[1:17:21] Just we just need to add.

[1:17:22] Unless you guys want to look over the feast schedule and change anything. What do we need to ask when I'm sorry I didn't listen to you

[1:17:30] Just the reconnection feed. Oh, yes, I actually think we ought to look it over almost once a year or once every other year

[1:17:37] Yeah, we have I mean, they're pretty I mean

[1:17:47] Now that wouldn't hate very number to figure that out. Yeah

[1:17:51] So, I can email to you guys and you guys come over out and we can, why don't you do that?

[1:17:57] Do that.

[1:17:59] If you want to change.

[1:18:00] That'd be good.

[1:18:01] All right.

[1:18:02] Great.

[1:18:03] Do you have something you want to talk about?

[1:18:08] I don't know.

[1:18:09] I don't know.

[1:18:09] I just don't know.

[1:18:10] I just don't think that.

[1:18:12] We sure to bring that up and work, maybe.

[1:18:14] Oh, is the map of the rock.

[1:18:20] Oh, what was that map on, irrigation map on, like is it on a little roll-up?

[1:18:26] Oh, that's pretty exciting.

[1:18:27] Oh, cool.

[1:18:28] Thank you.

[1:18:29] I think we have to do this.

[1:18:31] So, I brought it up to David.

[1:18:35] Nice that it was back in 1968.

[1:18:39] David.

[1:18:40] David.

[1:18:41] Oh.

[1:18:42] He's been changed since.

[1:18:44] I'm sure I have.

[1:18:46] Because there was a pump station, right there, there was a pump in the hole.

[1:18:54] I didn't throw three pump stations in there.

[1:18:57] That would've been done.

[1:18:59] But this one doesn't really show it.

[1:19:02] So I don't know how to...

[1:19:04] Just...

[1:19:04] Hmm.

[1:19:07] But the main lines I think are still the same.

[1:19:09] That's why it's going to sound better than main lines are.

[1:19:15] I asked him where he was new or he was vows.

[1:19:18] And there were range ramps, stuff was like probably the only one I know we just

[1:19:21] would write there by...

[1:19:24] Robesons.

[1:19:25] Vows.

[1:19:27] So that's another man I don't know.

[1:19:28] We're going to land these graves where I don't know that.

[1:19:32] What's that?

[1:19:32] They're home, right, but we're used to trying to go to land these houses.

[1:19:37] There's a grain right there.

[1:19:39] Oh there is.

[1:19:43] There's nobody, you know?

[1:19:45] No.

[1:19:46] We have no glue with that.

[1:19:48] Where are the drains?

[1:19:50] No.

[1:19:50] For the irrigation.

[1:19:52] No.

[1:19:53] No one knows there.

[1:19:54] Is that what?

[1:19:56] Is it?

[1:19:57] Oh, boy.

[1:19:58] Is that?

[1:19:58] Well, that gloves thing on that toe.

[1:20:00] How is it going to be a way to find a home?

[1:20:03] You'll just have to basically walk down that and see if you need to find yourself.

[1:20:07] It's got to touch that weapon.

[1:20:08] Oh, that's what I have.

[1:20:10] That's a way to find a home.

[1:20:11] It's a way to find a home.

[1:20:12] I mean.

[1:20:14] Right.

[1:20:15] here I don't look all the way

[1:20:16] you think it's you think it's a fair corner

[1:20:19] when you're ready to do it I'll go with you

[1:20:21] I told Jail the only way we're most next

[1:20:24] frame from the house right

[1:20:27] you're right right right right

[1:20:28] the flooded their house

[1:20:32] so it's just a gatebound

[1:20:34] on either there I dug it all out

[1:20:36] to plug out a gatebound and grab a rabbit

[1:20:38] so you do reaching in and right

[1:20:41] spin it open

[1:20:44] It's still I mean and I've gone on at the end of that spur I've got two in my yard, but they're just split this fur lines

[1:20:52] One that comes off

[1:20:54] It sounds like there's a cow right here

[1:20:57] Sounds like it's like right here in the elementary school

[1:21:07] Okay

[1:21:09] And they talk to each other

[1:21:13] Yeah,

[1:21:17] anyway, carry to have fun.

[1:21:18] No, I have fun.

[1:21:19] Yeah, Steve.

[1:21:20] I do.

[1:21:20] I got a homeless.

[1:21:22] All right.

[1:21:22] Let's do it.

[1:21:23] Okay.

[1:21:24] First of all, when I walk in the morning,

[1:21:27] every morning there's water running down the road

[1:21:29] past Kate's house.

[1:21:31] We're on top of that.

[1:21:32] I think there's a leak.

[1:21:34] There is.

[1:21:35] So you're on top of that?

[1:21:37] Okay.

[1:21:39] Secondly, are we worried about not having

[1:21:41] not culinary water. If we're not, why are we going to limit people to use our culinary

[1:21:50] water to water their yards one day a week after the other water shut off? I told

[1:21:57] Kerry. It's not we're not limiting them. No. I mean, they want to pay for it.

[1:22:11] That's

[1:22:11] I told him to put the news letter up to just be mindful of the facility and remember it will probably cost you a lot of money

[1:22:19] Yeah, I think if you just have one day life we talked about last time

[1:22:23] Don't worry more everybody would use water that I do and I think have a great in our tank

[1:22:31] Okay. Is there a cut off day when people should quit using culinary water to water the yards if they want to?

[1:22:42] Let me ask Siri.

[1:22:44] I guess so.

[1:22:46] What I can see is people are going to use it and then when they're watered out comes, they're going to be real upset and want, we're not adjusting.

[1:22:55] Yeah. Well, I don't think we should, we've warned them that it's not cotton, but we need

[1:23:00] to put that in the newsletter. There'll be no adjustments. Yeah, because the amount of

[1:23:04] spring is actually dropped down to 17 that. How's it? Yeah, that's a little bit I think I've

[1:23:09] ever heard of it. It's finally dropped. Yeah. I honestly thought it could drive before now.

[1:23:14] Me too. It's okay. I got a few more.

[1:23:20] You know, when we went to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

[1:23:22] for irrigation water. Yes. There were people on that lower street to the water every day, even

[1:23:28] on Thursday Fridays and Saturdays. That wasn't worrying, by the way, but I'm telling you

[1:23:34] there were people there on the field. There's nothing we can do, right? No. That's too bad.

[1:23:42] I have made sure I water on Wednesday. What do you mean to me? Because I have a field line and I don't

[1:23:52] was watered every day and some of those imaging stuff and that kind of thing.

[1:23:58] Another small lot we can do there.

[1:24:01] Okay.

[1:24:02] We can go knock on the door.

[1:24:04] Do we?

[1:24:05] Do we know when I walk?

[1:24:08] It's five in the morning.

[1:24:09] Just go ahead and knock on the door.

[1:24:12] I'll be up, but don't knock.

[1:24:15] When will the town signs be put up on the end?

[1:24:18] And there's we talked about it a couple months ago and they were going to go and they were going to go up.

[1:24:23] So yeah, carry.

[1:24:26] Man, I called them and they said they were here and then you went and called right after that and they said they were still a power coping.

[1:24:32] Yeah.

[1:24:32] So I'm carry.

[1:24:38] Oh,

[1:24:42] oh.

[1:24:42] Oh, really.

[1:24:43] Next two days.

[1:24:45] Next two weeks.

[1:24:46] Next two weeks.

[1:24:46] This is the beginning of the week.

[1:24:47] Oh, there's another one.

[1:24:49] Yeah.

[1:24:49] Okay.

[1:24:53] You know when Shannon was here last week?

[1:24:56] And our last month?

[1:24:58] And talked about the motorcycle riders?

[1:25:00] Yes.

[1:25:00] My grandkids?

[1:25:02] Yes.

[1:25:04] But we've got motorcycle pros and cons.

[1:25:07] It's not.

[1:25:08] Well, they actually, when she came out and talked to him,

[1:25:12] they weren't on and below the road above our house.

[1:25:16] They were up in Tyler's yard.

[1:25:18] And she came out and talked to him.

[1:25:19] But it's okay. I mean, we all understand and it's fine, but I've worked on my grandkids and hopefully I've solved the problem, okay?

[1:25:28] Well, we've got like, it's not all recycled, it's just doing that. I wouldn't put signs up for that.

[1:25:35] Yeah, I've got more signs to put up on the other side where that drainage ditch is to the east and also kind on your property that's on this side.

[1:25:45] on what side yeah yeah so that needs to right there the kids are running in and out

[1:25:51] or not your grandkids but there's other people but I'm just gonna put them up on

[1:25:55] the burn side towards the road. So at least that's posted. Well I'm sure they're

[1:26:01] not innocent but anyways okay did we ever figure out who runs our playground

[1:26:10] Yeah.

[1:26:11] I don't know how to be in on console.

[1:26:13] I don't, I don't just can't answer that.

[1:26:16] I don't know.

[1:26:18] I don't know that captain isructuring psychone-care-crue and even selling business.

[1:26:24] I didn't even know who the police were-

[1:26:25] We don't, you know, was.

[1:26:27] We don't have any paperwork on either.

[1:26:29] It's 25 years ago.

[1:26:31] So.

[1:26:31] So what basically did we have to-

[1:26:33] Let's still think you could go over to a rotate that piece out, take it through

[1:26:36] are welling and have more, well, she's still

[1:26:39] bold in there.

[1:26:40] Why didn't you cut back and put on the kids my God?

[1:26:43] I'll put it on the inside.

[1:26:44] Hey, we got a tub, I don't know.

[1:26:46] Put on this, I don't know.

[1:26:46] We got a glass, because I'm the top of it, right?

[1:26:49] Yeah.

[1:26:50] We got such a shower, I'm not sure.

[1:26:55] We should fix that or something.

[1:26:57] We should, yeah.

[1:26:58] We should get a new one, but I am not a grant writer,

[1:27:03] so I think that's something you need to work in.

[1:27:06] it's a whole new playground in quite a month yeah yeah yeah yeah you probably have to get

[1:27:13] your three of them but yes okay what about yeah we're just gonna want to be sure to

[1:27:20] down alright well just right there just just just just put plywood on both ends I mean

[1:27:26] that's good to go they just can't there's been kids over the plane yeah that's a good

[1:27:34] The house, or the building plan,

[1:27:38] the actual building was different than the building plan we talked about last time.

[1:27:42] Yes.

[1:27:43] Have we done anything, or are we going to do anything?

[1:27:46] I don't know what you're in there.

[1:27:47] They're building inspectors.

[1:27:49] He called me again.

[1:27:52] Two stairs sometime.

[1:27:54] And he talked to him. He actually shouldn't down.

[1:27:58] Which else?

[1:28:03] Down here.

[1:28:04] Go ahead again though.

[1:28:05] Yeah. I don't think you're gonna

[1:28:08] Stop it. I don't what you do about it. Okay. All right, that's all I

[1:28:14] want to ask. What is one of the questions about that? When he turns right into the second Airbnb,

[1:28:22] what do you do? What do you do? What do we do about that? Nothing. You know, his old one was grandfathered,

[1:28:27] the new one's not, and it's not in the area where you can have it and you can't have it. He's not going to tell

[1:28:33] he's got one there and you can't go off advertisement and use that if he says no, you

[1:28:40] got to take his word for it. You have, there's my name, Diff.

[1:28:45] I didn't even think he said yes, but it would have no, of course, Diff.

[1:28:51] No, you tell no if that's not an art. But he's going to do it anyway, prove that.

[1:28:57] Yeah. Yeah, I do have one more question.

[1:28:59] Were we gonna put a fence, you know where you put a fence behind their shed at M&D?

[1:29:05] Yes.

[1:29:05] Were we gonna put a fence down along North and South there?

[1:29:10] I didn't get a bit on any of that.

[1:29:12] I mean I guess could.

[1:29:14] I don't know the property line there.

[1:29:17] It's actually not ours.

[1:29:18] It's there for the cables.

[1:29:21] I thought at one time somebody said we are not.

[1:29:24] We just replaced that existing fence that was there.

[1:29:29] But I mean, okay, or it's not town property. I don't know that I would do a whole lot more, okay. Thank you.

[1:29:37] Yeah, anything else Steve? Nope.

[1:29:40] Jed, do you have something you want to talk about?

[1:29:47] I tell you this every time I see you, but the town sure looks nice, Jed.

[1:29:51] It does. My question, I get like in your job.

[1:29:56] Good.

[1:29:58] Anything we can do to make it better.

[1:30:00] Good night. Please keep your warm.

[1:30:01] His microphone is working.

[1:30:03] Please keep your eyes open for being nice if we can find the job for over there.

[1:30:13] All right.

[1:30:15] Good job.

[1:30:15] Which is why.

[1:30:18] Here is before too long that tree and next year house we all should have a nice operator.

[1:30:23] Which one?

[1:30:24] That's nice to my field.

[1:30:25] All I keep going.

[1:30:27] Wantin' to go do it myself.

[1:30:28] But I didn't know. I don't like how it lines right there.

[1:30:32] Oh, there's one that's it's it's it's just growing in a row.

[1:30:37] It's not real. It's cut. It's found the town. It's on town property.

[1:30:42] How's it's on this now? I'm just going to cut it to work.

[1:30:45] Yeah, because it's hard to drive like if you have you have to drive on like right close to my side to get under the tree.

[1:30:51] How would you guys do? I mean,

[1:30:53] But it's just a shoe, but next you've gone around and cut all them trees that are suckered up on the outside of the fence

[1:30:59] That's what I want to see

[1:31:00] I think it needs to be done I think I started doing some of them for a little while

[1:31:08] When they're in the ground in those wire fences, that's hard

[1:31:12] Those buffers are hard to get out of there

[1:31:14] Where are you talking about?

[1:31:16] Oh, they're all over

[1:31:17] If you drive that over like yeah right next to that like we're the

[1:31:21] right ways are and then hits the property line fences yeah there's trees all over all

[1:31:26] those there's cottonwoods and there's all Chinese elves the elves are the worst

[1:31:32] that's basically all they're basically all else really there's a lot of

[1:31:37] I think they can roll through the past I'm mom I don't mind a long yeah they do grow fast

[1:31:41] I got to point where I've tried to pull them up does anybody know how the property lines work

[1:31:47] down by

[1:31:48] uh...

[1:31:49] back to task

[1:31:50] uh...

[1:31:51] i don't know

[1:31:52] yeah those trees that are right there

[1:31:54] yeah i don't know

[1:31:55] because i wear

[1:31:55] and i start spraying

[1:31:56] like when you're going towards food food uh... feed yard

[1:32:00] right there up back here

[1:32:02] you know i'll call calling and find out

[1:32:04] yeah but that that's all private property they won't let anybody go on

[1:32:08] well let's go to be some right away there

[1:32:11] i agree but i got kicked off

[1:32:14] no down there if yes

[1:32:16] up on Main Street, you know the highway side, where the ditch is, the runs next to the highway

[1:32:23] and then those trees that run north and south, just right in front of the back of town, they got trained

[1:32:30] once, yeah, we brought out for them a couple of Chinese owners are popping up right now, I don't have to

[1:32:43] I'll call the courthouse and find out where the wine there is.

[1:32:46] I didn't want to get out of control.

[1:32:50] Get some card on.

[1:32:54] Get them off of the kill.

[1:32:55] She's not here.

[1:32:56] I mean, she doesn't live here.

[1:32:58] I think you.

[1:32:59] So, okay.

[1:33:00] Do we need to find a line on when we think we can buy these things tonight that we're talking about?

[1:33:06] I think after you've grown on, I just can't stand him doing 12 hours.

[1:33:10] But I think after we vote on it, then we amend the budget.

[1:33:17] I think 12 hours and I still couldn't read some of them.

[1:33:20] Right.

[1:33:20] But in the last time.

[1:33:22] It like down here, like the launch.

[1:33:25] It reads the launch, but it wouldn't read the marketlets.

[1:33:31] That was a lot of things.

[1:33:32] I think the hard, hard, hard.

[1:33:35] Yeah, more.

[1:33:35] It's a long town, but I wouldn't read it.

[1:33:37] Yeah.

[1:33:37] I sent down there for about 35 minutes.

[1:33:40] This is made right by the highway.

[1:33:41] Is it out by the highway that meter? No, no, it sits on the other side of the canal

[1:33:46] What you're now?

[1:33:47] I'll light it up around, I said right there. When I backed up, then I drove up into the wheels.

[1:33:52] I said, I'll look like this, the grist meal stand right there.

[1:33:57] So my question, I haven't died on all that anybody can manage this, but if they're their own water system,

[1:34:03] then we sell that system water, why do we read their meters?

[1:34:07] Why I said that? I thought we just read a master meter.

[1:34:10] Why do we read all of them?

[1:34:13] I thought you said in the filter Riley and he that's what I thought he did all out. Never's been like that. It never has

[1:34:21] I think it was like that at one point. I think it was somebody that's older than me because I remember at one point Riley came in here

[1:34:29] And we said we will put in a master meter you and then he said I'll give you it out. I know that is exactly right. That's what I think too

[1:34:38] I don't know if it's changed since then, but we only have to remember that.

[1:34:44] Yeah, we only read it once.

[1:34:46] And there's the one that's down there in the vault.

[1:34:49] I'm pretty sure that's only when we read it.

[1:34:53] But like.

[1:34:54] Yeah.

[1:34:54] So then we're just going.

[1:34:56] Those, well, I guess.

[1:34:58] Like, you know how everybody's meter that would switch out, like,

[1:35:02] big no towns responsible for those meters, but who's responsible for them?

[1:35:06] meters. Like if we change meters there, you see you're gonna have to buy those? That's a good question.

[1:35:13] That is a good question. I would assume they would.

[1:35:19] I meant just what we had this conversation last the last time we did this water meter thing.

[1:35:25] All this came up before. I can't remember what happened.

[1:35:28] Because we have that tiered, so they would be getting charged that tiered rate and it would be, like, thousand, like,

[1:35:40] I would guess hundreds of, do you know what the master meter at for them there?

[1:35:44] So you do read a master meter.

[1:35:48] And it's down.

[1:35:49] So I don't know.

[1:35:50] It's a non-built meter.

[1:35:52] It's just so neat.

[1:35:53] It makes sure that it is.

[1:35:55] Because I think that my meters are.

[1:35:57] You would have to ask Harry, but I think you will do a report that says how much water you send to that.

[1:36:04] Yeah, but they have an organization, I'm writing the present enough.

[1:36:08] And he should be collecting the things he takes.

[1:36:10] Yeah, but he's collecting the things he takes.

[1:36:13] So we ought to, they don't have a...

[1:36:16] They don't have a water district.

[1:36:17] It would be so...

[1:36:19] It would be about the...

[1:36:21] It would be the...

[1:36:23] He does.

[1:36:23] I was here on all their gallons of water.

[1:36:27] Yeah. You mean going off the master meter?

[1:36:30] Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, I'm completely billed.

[1:36:33] Right. Really, if we billed them into business, a lot less.

[1:36:37] Then it would be a lot less.

[1:36:38] I mean, because once you get into life, once you get into like,

[1:36:43] over 12,000 gallons, it's $10,000 per thousand yen.

[1:36:50] It would be huge,

[1:36:55] like I can go in and see what it reminds us of, but I am just maybe they should probably, if we replace the meters or the radios we're going to buy, I almost think it beyond them.

[1:37:15] So do you do that all the way down pretty roughly and all the way out to fall face to subdivision and down?

[1:37:20] No, they're just out of city limits.

[1:37:25] They have a water district, right?

[1:37:28] Yeah, that's the difference.

[1:37:30] President, and they do their own water testing, they fix their own water leaks, they don't think they would have to have a meter reader and read your own meters, right?

[1:37:43] And how can in our system?

[1:37:46] So do we, when we read your own list, we need to read something, somehow word it that takes the tiered rate off of that?

[1:37:57] off the master meter. Yeah, so that you're just building them the basic

[1:38:03] basic quarter. But what if you have an individual meter down there that's used 25,000

[1:38:10] gallons out? Well that's on the middle. Because the I mean the log is on there and they

[1:38:16] will use. Okay. They use that much. And by the way, when we buy these things that

[1:38:23] buying for 80,073 are we going to charge them for the ones they put on their meters?

[1:38:30] I don't know, that's what we're talking about.

[1:38:31] I think we should.

[1:38:32] I think their separate organization, they should pay their share.

[1:38:36] But if you call Ray Leanne, all he's going to want is for you to do it.

[1:38:39] They want you to do it.

[1:38:40] They want you to do it.

[1:38:41] They want you to do it.

[1:38:42] They don't want you to do it.

[1:38:43] They want you to do it.

[1:38:44] We're not taking that.

[1:38:46] We're not taking that line back.

[1:38:49] It's a, it totally needs to be completely redumped.

[1:38:53] Well, if he won't buy the new radios, that their radios are still going to read it, just not as effectively, it'll still be just over.

[1:39:03] I think, some sleep, but like that, I mean, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if you say to Riley, look, we're buying a new system, you guys get your water from us, you've got to be compatible, you're going to have to buy one of those for every meter.

[1:39:21] unless you want to start doing your own yeah and then they can read them however they want

[1:39:27] my guess is they expect once in a while a chart from us to upgrade and do all those kind of things

[1:39:33] they're separate

[1:39:37] i wonder if there's anything do we have anything in writing on that line

[1:39:42] so that'd be nine meters should be 15 there's 15 hookups on that one i think there's a lot

[1:39:48] you were getting at the 25?

[1:39:50] No, I think what the Max was up to 15.

[1:39:53] They were backstow.

[1:39:55] Yeah, they're backstowed.

[1:39:57] Yeah, they're backstowed.

[1:39:57] What the engineers said they could have up like up to 20.

[1:40:01] Yeah, but we did.

[1:40:04] So there's Courtney Crawfer.

[1:40:07] And Phil.

[1:40:11] Tyler.

[1:40:12] Tyler.

[1:40:13] The llama people.

[1:40:15] Yeah, the riddles.

[1:40:17] That her word house.

[1:40:18] On the river. On the river, Riley. Yeah. Carval and then up on the hill. Yeah, you got

[1:40:27] that old trails. Well, you've got a large and then this Larry Gray on there. No, he's a well.

[1:40:37] I don't know. I don't know. I don't like those Riley's as far as I go.

[1:40:47] And then it goes

[1:40:48] I think they have 12, but 15 or so.

[1:40:50] Well, like the large, big band, that has another hook up that's not used.

[1:40:55] He's not used.

[1:40:56] I think there's a total of 15.

[1:40:58] There's a little.

[1:40:59] So I remember when the engineer came in and said,

[1:41:01] we didn't have enough water, you have enough stuff to do 25, and we maxed it at 15.

[1:41:05] But that's because we maxed it at 12, and they dissolved 15.

[1:41:10] Yeah.

[1:41:10] We're safe 15.

[1:41:11] So we went to 15.

[1:41:12] I do remember that, too.

[1:41:13] Is it already sold at 15?

[1:41:15] But the thing was adding 10 more hook ups or whatever you want, you've got to keep in mind that's only a two inch line that's right

[1:41:22] It is

[1:41:24] Yeah, that's exactly why we don't want to listen and then if you upgrade it and they come on all 25 more connections down past a lot

[1:41:31] You can't tell them nope you've got an 80 inch line that should be an 80 inch service line clear from that's why they start clear down

[1:41:39] Just eventually you're going to be on water 40

[1:41:43] Yeah. Yeah, and Tories reported we say, because they wanted to eat it all. They came in and had that thing.

[1:41:48] He had that waterline clear to the river. Yeah. So that proposal that he had,

[1:41:55] because all it has to go across the bridge. To recap, to understand

[1:42:01] somehow we don't figure out how to,

[1:42:04] whether we're going to read those meaners ourselves or we're going to just read the master read,

[1:42:09] meet her and let them, let them read their own relationship.

[1:42:13] What we want to have, Riley coming here too, what we need to do, see if we have any kind of

[1:42:18] agreement with that line. I don't, that was before my time, so I don't know, but I'm wondering

[1:42:25] if we have anything in writing, how that's to be handled, if not, would that go to the minutes

[1:42:32] maybe. Yeah, I don't. How do you think you're going to get one year, was it? I don't know.

[1:42:41] Well, I just don't think it's fair to have people in town in on water system pay for their

[1:42:47] parks. That's not right. I agree because they are. Yeah, I would think that they were going

[1:42:54] to have to say they have to. But they don't, I mean, they don't have, like, a water fund.

[1:43:01] Yeah, they don't collect anything. They don't collect any money.

[1:43:03] And I think I have a plea that they charge every night. Maybe, maybe stole.

[1:43:09] It's a great value every night.

[1:43:11] They can charge you to do individual person one time free for the new.

[1:43:15] Because it doesn't roll.

[1:43:17] Like, they did the other day when that's what comes down to

[1:43:23] there.

[1:43:24] We did it. We did it.

[1:43:26] Didn't wish you had your looks.

[1:43:28] Yep.

[1:43:29] That wasn't your grandkids.

[1:43:30] No, not in town right now.

[1:43:33] That's that kid who's been buzzing around town on that little

[1:43:35] a little bit back a little bit.

[1:43:40] We go down our street six miles an hour.

[1:43:43] Not yours.

[1:43:45] And what's yours?

[1:43:46] No, we don't.

[1:43:47] All right.

[1:43:48] When I've been out, I can't say it.

[1:43:50] It's a little bit too high.

[1:43:51] I really feel strongly that we can't charge our town people for anything that they do.

[1:43:56] Creepy pipes or anything.

[1:44:00] All right.

[1:44:02] Meeting adjourned.

[1:44:03] We'll discuss that.

[1:44:04] And that needs to come up with our water, or we're not having it this way.

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