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People need to hear you. Welcome to the
Blairestown Township Committee meeting
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for March 26,
2025. We have an opening roll call,
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please. Kristen, Mrs. Mayber here. Mr.
Lman, here. Mrs. Lance here. Deputy
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Mayor Orcott. Mayor Morhead here. Can we
please rise to salute the flag?
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
Adequate notice of this meeting has been
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provided in accordance with the open
public meeting act 1975 chapter 231
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setting forth the time date place and
purpose of this public meeting for a
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legal notice published in the New Jersey
Herald andor the express times following
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the township's annual reorganization
meeting at which the 2025 meeting
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schedule was adopted. Good evening
everyone. We got a really full house
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here tonight. I mean this our budget
meeting we had Lorraine, right? She she
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was walking in and I said uh she goes,
"There aren't many cars here." I said,
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"You're in. You're in." You were, but
always good to have you. Uh we will uh
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we'll start our meeting tonight with the
uh our public comments. Any public
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comments? Tara, I kind of I well
expected this. But I bought a friend
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and I'll explain.
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Good evening. Good evening. Um, Tara,
um, I guess wearing the I8 to 611
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pendant NJOT hat, which is shifted a
little bit because we're taking
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advantage of an
opportunity because uh, granted us
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because the Explore Act was passed into
law in January. So, I'm going to um
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speak to the resolution you have on the
agenda uh for tonight and see if you
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have any questions about it. So, uh the
reason for this resolution is
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specifically to request support for
inclusion of the Delaware Watergap
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Recreation Area Local Communities as a
gateway community pilot program under
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the Explore Act. So, I do want to read
what the Explore Act is. The Explore
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Act, Expanding Public Lands Outdoor
Recreation Experience Act, Explore, was
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signed into law in January um of 2025.
It seeks in part to foster and encourage
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responsible recreation on federal and
state recreational lands and waters with
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an emphasis on enhancements to
recreation areas, long-distance bike and
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hiking trails, high volume nonfederal
public lands, and by mitigating negative
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visitor impacts on infrastructure and
local communities by quote providing
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financial or technical assistance to
gateway communities under an existing
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program or entering into public private
partnerships, cooperative agreements,
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memorandum of understandings and such um
in our
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communities. So that's in general what
the explore act is out to do. There's a
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provision in there rel regarding gateway
communities which is what we are just
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like Hardwick, just like Nolton, all of
us on both Jersey and Pennsylvania. Um
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we are communities where in order to get
to these places they have to travel
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through our our resources and we provide
resources to those visitors
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accommodations, hospitality and whatnot.
Um but we're also impacted by those
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visitors. So this is required by law is
they're going to identify 10 gateway
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communities to participate in a pilot
program that will
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be if nothing else quantifying how many
visitors actually visit. You know are we
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not the most
complicated conglomerate of access
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points to one of these? you know what's
really a visitor when who's traveling on
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80 and traveling on 611 which of those
are really considered a visitor. So the
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quantify visitors um I do believe this
will quantify um the visitor quantify
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the visitor use impacts on our
communities and impacts in particular.
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You'll see Eric back there. You know I
was at Hardwick's meeting where Eric was
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up there talking about um ambulance
being up on the mountain 22 times last
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year. you know, when when our fire and
rescue who were really created for the
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to serve the communities are up on the
mountain, they're less available to the
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local communities for which they were
created. Um, so just one example of
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impacts um that hopefully will get
quantified. So, it looks like it's a
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5-year program, looks like it's
federally funded. um it doesn't create
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exactly what does that all look like
because it's new. Um, so my the hope is
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that by participating in this program,
we have the seat at the table to be a
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part of creating this national program.
And by having that seat at the table, we
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can ensure hopefully that
our complicated jurisdictional situation
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um will also serve others as this
hopefully will roll out as a national
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program. So other people in our
situations, we can serve. We can take
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care of our needs. Um, for
example, in your resolution is the
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mention that um, you're you reaffirm
that the township's commitment to
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maintaining the long-standing
designation of the Delaware Watercap
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National Recreation Area as a national
recreation area. By having that seat at
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the table, you can ensure that that's
important to Blairestown. Um, that that
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designation doesn't change, that you can
put in a plug for that every step of the
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way. So, this is really calling on our
federal legislators to reach out to the
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Secretary of Interior and request that
our our Delaware Waterg area um
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communities are included in one of these
10. Uh Warren County took the initiative
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to set this off. Uh they did that into
February. Congressman Kane had a letter
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ready to go and that letter was sent
immediately. So, that letter is in the
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hands of the Secretary of Interior um
with our request. word is kind of
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catching up on the support that we
anticipated would be there. Um so before
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I um let you know why my friend
Christine is here, I want to ask what
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questions you might have about
this question I have is wouldn't they
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consider all of the towns that are that
surround that area as part of it anyway?
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No, because like um just like the Wild
and Scenic River project that we're
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involved in, in order for your segment
of the Palm Still to be cons to be
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designated, it requires local support.
Same thing with this. It sounds like
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they're using that similar model.
Whereas if a
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municipality doesn't want to be part
participate in that in that gateway
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community then their section or they
would not be included. So, it's not um
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they're not going to impose this on, for
example, the northern communities like
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the Sussex County and Pike Sussex Pike.
If they don't want this, if they're not
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on record um and their needs and their
their situation is unique to them, which
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is very different than what we have
going on in our Delaware Water Gap area.
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So, it's I don't um it's not
automatic from what I read. So, what are
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the positives and the negatives? I don't
see I don't I can't um Well, my glass is
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always perpetually 90% full, so it's
hard for me to see negatives, but I've
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worked hard on that. Um I I wouldn't be
here if I saw negatives. I I don't I
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don't see them. Um seat at the table.
The positives are what I explained seat
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at the table to be a part of of a
national program. Um why not?
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We're so positive. So fantasize. So the
the the fantasy I have with this is um
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they want to this is suggesting that
they might say okay we have overcrowding
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at Dunfield Creek and other fairly local
resources that are also state you know
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we're unique because we have um the
the what's the Warthingington excuse me
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we also have a as significant as as the
Del Watergap National Recreation Area
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that parking lot is really federal I
mean safe that's where part of
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Warthingington State Forest so when you
have overcrowding there for example I
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think we would all agree and this is
part of the reason I have Christine with
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us tonight um I think the Appalachian
Mountain Club um and Catfish Pond would
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appreciate visitors being diverted to
them and I think Blairtown with your
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interest in um ecoourism would
appreciate visitors coming through
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Blairestown and and and using the
services of your of our our our
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restaurants for example on their way up
uh to Moan Outdoor Center. Um so this
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act is uh looking to do that kind of
thing to to address overcrowding issues
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and whatever. So my fantasy is even our
fire and rescue, what happens if they do
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identify? How do you resolve our what I
call Horton here's the who situation?
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You know, the reason we can't get
attention on 80 and they can't get
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attention on 611 is our situation in the
gap is so watered down by being two
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states, three congressional districts,
three different counties. What if all of
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a sudden we become some kind of a
gateway community and that is recognized
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as some kind of an entity and they rec
they say okay maybe our fire and rescue
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services are taxed because of providing
services to the gap maybe maybe there's
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a way to compensate for that or maybe if
nothing else there's an opportunity for
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training for like ropes the the
technical rescue training because we
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have cliff climbers you know we have to
rely on Portland Um, we're not I I don't
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believe anybody in our area is certified
to do those kind of things. So, I see I
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see nothing but
opportunity. So, what would they do like
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put things together or or whether
whatever towns are incorporated into it,
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put package together or something so
that they can give the people that do
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come to the area and come and that would
be whatever the group decides to do. I
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think that is the open possibility.
Yeah. I I think um and by us having that
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seat, we get to hopefully craft be a
part of crafting. We are the ones with
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the problem. We are the ones that can
fantasize about solutions.
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Yeah, thank you. Anyone else? I let you
know why I have Chris with us. You teed
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it up very well. So, so I want to
introduce my friend Christine who is the
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senior hospitality manager of New York
and New Jersey for Appalachian Mountain
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Club and they on they run the Moheaggan
Outdoor Center and since it's in your
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resolution and we're friends, I thought
it would be only right to let her come
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here and just let you know the services
that they provide up there for our
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community, which I enjoy personally cuz
that's my Thanksgiving buffet and I go
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up there with my canoe and I love just
being able to pull up to their lake,
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catfish pond, and dump it in and and
paddle around and get my lake experience
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since Columbia Lake is no longer
available to us. That's another story.
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But so I wanted to let if you don't
mind, give Christine a moment to say
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what what she does up there. Sure. So my
name is Christine
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Molinsky. I work for Appalachia Mountain
Club. I've been there for just under
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three years. And one of the things that
I am so proud to say to people, anybody
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can afford it. You could have absolutely
nothing. Our town, this is a place where
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our town can go up there. You could swim
for free. You could bring your own
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kaying canoe. You could bring a lunch.
You could sit on the beach and you could
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enjoy that water. You could come up to
our free music on the mountain. We have
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different types of things where people
could come up and practice and try to
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figure out if they could be an artist or
not. We like to explore different
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things. We have fishing. Um we partnered
with the
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NJP. So it's free fishing. You come up
there on your on the the day that they
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do it and um we hand out the fishing
poles to the kid that gets the biggest
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fish, the most fish, the first fish, the
last fish. They give us all these neat
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things to give out to the kids. Then for
uh we have the Boy Scouts that come up.
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We comp them a cabin so they can come up
and they can, you know, explore. They
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can camp out. We have camping with a
buddy up there. We do all these neat
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little programs where people can come up
and and really enjoy it. It's it's slow.
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It's off the beaten path. We we're the
Appalachian Trail runs right through my
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camp. um where New York, my other camp,
they trip on the business and it
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obviously helps them. So Moheakin could
definitely use a lift to keep something
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like this going. We lease the property
from National Park Service. So um you
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know, we go into like these 10-year
leases or whatever. So I would love to
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keep that going. you know, when people
come through. We have a trail marshall
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that's going through Straburg right now
showing like how the hikers usually go
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through. He he might be doing more of a
pub crawl than most, but um but these
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hikers, they come through and you know,
they'll they'll call the the limo
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service to get a ride down to do their
laundry. They'll go over. We get groups
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that come up there and they do um they
they have reunions and uh the the other
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Blair I can't think of all the different
names of the different groups. We get
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different schools and stuff like that
and then um reunions and they'll go over
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to uh the the brewery and they'll go
down to Blaires Town and so they they
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are frequenting you know the the
different stores and everything. So, it
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is helping the community and we we just
want people to come up and enjoy it as
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much as we do. We're up there, you know,
living their life. And, you know, we get
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we get some kids that come in, you know,
from Philadelphia or from from New York
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and uh they come in a little bit, you
know, hardened. They because that's the
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life they live. And when they come up
there, they don't have to be tough. They
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don't have to be mean. They could just
There's a there's a porcupine, you know,
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and oh my god, like how cool is this?
So, we get to see another side and we
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offer something to people that it's it's
just
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unmatched. That's what we do up there.
So, I imagine
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and a Blair Town res. Yes, I am. And a
North Warren student.
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So that's fantastic. And
Mr. Mayor, may I ask a question? If
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there has flyers and stuff, would you
like to send them to me so maybe we can
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post them on our Facebook page?
Absolutely. I love that. Anything we can
[16:08]
do to promote the cause? Thank you.
It's a It's a neat place. And I've seen
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your I've seen your your passion on
Facebook as well. A little bit
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everywhere.
So, it's it it's good stuff, you know. I
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So, I grew up in Bloomfield and we just
didn't have, you know, this beauty here,
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you know, that pond is is amazing, you
know, and people can go up there with
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their own boat. They can go for free and
and we rent them 15 bucks or four hours
[16:38]
if they want to go up and pay, but you
don't have to. So, we get we get mom uh
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the stay home rooms that come up there
and they go up there and and we let them
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just use the space. We have a little
nature center and kids come up with the
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bones and the furs and stuff like that.
It's it's a cool little space and and it
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would be nice to keep it going. I think
we saw on Facebook or somewhere you have
[17:02]
a lot of events, you know. Yes. And you
see the haunted trails that we had. That
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was a big thing. If you have We're not
crazy about that. It's It's really good.
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Interfere with our uh
That's okay.
[17:16]
No, but there was a lot of cooperation
there. Well, yeah, we actually were
[17:21]
advertising for each other.
Yeah, we were telling people at ours to
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go down to yours and we were telling
you stand. Yes. Yes. So, thank you.
[17:33]
Thank you. Thank you. Very good.
Thanks for all your work. You're
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welcome. So, um I trust you'll let me
know if you needed anything else.
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Thank you.
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Any other public comment before we move
on? Seeing none, we will go to our
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department head reports for the month of
February. We got Claire'stown Ambulance
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Corp, Claire'stown uh Fire Department
Company number one, Department of Public
[18:06]
Works, Police Department, Tax Collector,
Township Clerk, and vacant and abandoned
[18:10]
properties. We have a motion to accept
the February department head reports. So
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moved. Second. All in favor? I. All
opposed. All right.
[18:21]
Um have some minutes to approve February
26, 2025. Our public session meeting
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minutes. Any discussion?
I just wanted to make a comment that I
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would like you to put in the minutes
that the reason why I objected is
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because I wanted to wait until the
budget discussions. Could you please put
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that in advance for
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me on the uh on the open space?
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Do we have a motion to accept as
amended? I'll make that motion. Second.
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All in favor? I All opposed.
Okay. And uh we have a
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proclamation
tonight. May you see here? Can you see
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it? I I can see it. Yes, I wore my wor
my seeing glasses. Uh it's child abuse
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prevention month. It's April 2025.
Whereas children are our nation's most
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vulnerable members as well as our
nation's most valuable resources helping
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to shape the future of New Jersey. And
whereas positive childhood experiences
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like loving caregivers and safe, stable,
and nurturing relationships can help
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mitigate trauma and the negative impact
of adverse childhood experiences to
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promote the social, emotional, and
developmental well-being of children.
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And whereas childhood trauma can have
long-term psychological, emotional, and
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physical effects throughout individual's
lifetime and impact future generations
[20:01]
of their family. And whereas childhood
trauma including abuse and neglect is a
[20:06]
serious problem affecting every
community in the US and finding
[20:10]
solutions requiring input and action
from everyone. And whereas children you
[20:15]
live in families with I don't think
that's written correctly um with access
[20:20]
to concrete econ economic and social
supports are less likely to experience
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abuse and neglect. And whereas
prevention is possible because of the
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partnerships created between families,
prevention advocates, child welfare
[20:34]
professionals, education, health
community, and faith-based
[20:37]
organizations, business, law enforcement
agencies, and local, state, and national
[20:41]
governments. And whereas we acknowledge
that in order to solve the public health
[20:45]
issue of abuse and neglect, we must work
together to change heres and mindsets
[20:50]
through storytelling and sharing center
the needs of families, break down bias
[20:55]
and barriers, and inspire action from
expected and unexpected partners in
[21:00]
prevention. And whereas we are committed
we are committed to advancing equitable,
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responsive and effective systems that
ensure all children and families are
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health and health and thriving.
Whereas we recognize the need to
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prioritize kids and invest in more
prevention initiatives like home
[21:20]
visiting and family strengthening
policies, economic supports and
[21:26]
community-based child abuse prevention
programs at the national, state, and
[21:30]
local levels. And now therefore, it be
resolved that the Township Committee of
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Blairestown Township hereby proclaim
April as National Child Abuse Prevention
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Month and urge all citizens to recognize
this month by holding a narrative of
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hope for children and families through
collaboration and the creation of an
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ecosystem of primary prevention that
does not currently exist in this
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country. Dated this 26th day of March,
2025. Mayor Rob
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Morehead, who should have proof read
this. Sorry,
[22:02]
I thought if it was a national thing, I
would guess I did. Obviously, it's it's
[22:07]
not reading is fundamental month.
[22:13]
Um, all right. We've got a uh an
ordinance uh up for public hearing and
[22:18]
adoption tonight. It's
[22:21]
202502, the ordinance to exceed the
municipal budget appropriation limits
[22:25]
for the calendar year 2025 and establish
a cap
[22:31]
bank and uh we are at that we're at that
limit. We are at that limit. Joan, would
[22:38]
you like to
uh like to give us a little overview of
[22:42]
why we have to do this every year? Yeah,
we do have a cap limit in in our town.
[22:46]
We're only allowed to welcome up to a
certain percentage of our appropriations
[22:50]
and currently we are at
[22:55]
3,874937. The cap tax is
3,8749 total. So we are about uh what is
[23:03]
it 34 cents below our cap limit. So this
is just uh an ordinance letting us go up
[23:11]
to that 3 and 10%.
Okay, we will uh this is a public
[23:16]
hearing and adoption, so we'll open it
up to the public. Any questions,
[23:20]
comments about uh
[23:24]
202502? Seeing none, do we have a motion
to adopt? I will make that motion. Roll
[23:31]
call, please. Roll call, please.
Mrs. Van Werberg, yes. Mr. Lman, yes.
[23:37]
Mrs. Lance, yes. Deputy Mayor Orcott,
yes. Mayor Morehead. Yes. An
[23:43]
introduction of 202503 ordinance to
amend section
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184-20 stop intersections of code of the
township of Blairestown.
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Where is this going to be? Is this going
to be inside No Road by right be right
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at the where you come in from North
when you come down from from uh we're
[24:10]
opening road back up. So where road
meets the high school meets down below.
[24:15]
Down below. Yeah. That it's going to be
a stop sign in there. Need a stop sign.
[24:18]
There isn't one there already. Well
there there isn't one for that little
[24:23]
parking lot that's right there. That's
the problem. There's a little lot there
[24:25]
that needs a stop sign. There's two
there's there'll be two stop signs
[24:29]
there. Eric, we needed it. So, yeah,
Eric
[24:33]
Pizza put in the ordinance. Okay, we
have a motion to introduce. So moved.
[24:38]
Second. All in favor? All
opposed. Move that one
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along. Our consent agenda tonight, six
items. Uh 202539 resolution releasing
[24:51]
executive session minutes completely
unredacted. 202540
[24:58]
uh the governor's council on substance
abuses disorder uh the alliance to
[25:03]
prevent substance abuse disorder. 202541
a resolution authorizing the mayor to
[25:08]
execute the agreement between
Blairestown TA Township and Celebration
[25:13]
Fireworks. Um
202542 to 2024 tonnage grant application
[25:21]
202543 resolution requesting support for
inclusion of Deliver Water Gap
[25:25]
Recreation Area Local Communities as a
gateway community pilot program under
[25:30]
the Explore Act and
202544 approving vouchers and claims.
[25:37]
Any uh discussion on consent item
consent agenda items 1 through six?
[25:43]
Motion for approval.
Nope. I wanted to see if we could pull
[25:48]
out
202541. Uh the fireworks.
[25:54]
Okay. So, I would say I would be okay to
discuss everyone, but leave that one
[25:59]
aside. You want to discuss that first? I
I would. Okay. Yeah. So, maybe we can
[26:04]
lump it all together. Yeah. Yeah, that's
fine. that. So, u my question was um the
[26:11]
contract I think in the past um has been
signed by the township but we've been
[26:16]
provided with commitments of the
financial backing from other
[26:19]
municipalities and whatever was the
fundraising that would be placed towards
[26:23]
that by other businesses and other
sponsors and I don't think we have any
[26:27]
of that in place at this point. We are
today I didn't receive any of it. Yeah.
[26:35]
I emailed it to you when I got into the
office. Thank you. Um, so the question
[26:40]
then becomes it's still half. No, we're
on the hook for three grand. Three
[26:45]
grand. So if that's the case, uh, was
there any discussion with regard to the
[26:50]
police overtime or any of the other
things? Are we are we committed for the
[26:53]
three grand? We we comfortable with
that. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what
[26:57]
we do every year. Okay. Whatever they
need from other towns or fundraising,
[27:01]
they that's up to them. All right. Thank
you very much for providing it to me.
[27:05]
I'm I'm okay combining all of them.
Okay.
[27:09]
We have a motion. I emailed it. I just
made one copy just in case anyone had
[27:14]
questions so I can make a copy for you.
Yeah. Go ahead. We're going to pass it
[27:19]
down here. We're going to pass it down
[27:23]
to No. No. I'm glad. I'm glad. No, it's
important though.
[27:30]
Yeah.
Okay. So, um, Deputy Mayor Orcott made
[27:34]
the motion
to combine them and discuss them as one.
[27:40]
Vote on consent agenda items one through
six. So, I second that. Let's vote on
[27:45]
one through six. All right. Roll call,
please. Kristen. Mrs. Van. Yes. Mr.
[27:50]
Lman. Yes. Mrs. Lance. Yes. Deputy Mayor
Orpot. Yes.
[27:58]
Caveat that I'm not voting on the PCFA.
Oh.
[28:04]
Oh, right. Okay.
Mayor M. Yes.
[28:11]
Two that need to
just little caveat.
[28:17]
Well, then we Yeah, we're not going to
not vote on the bill. We're not going to
[28:21]
not. We can go back and vote on it
individually. It's like a $100. Should
[28:27]
have made a comment. But it's okay.
I don't want you in this four years from
[28:33]
now.
Making a campaign issue out of some
[28:37]
unfinished
business, our early voting date
[28:41]
extension. Yes. So, at the last meeting,
I um stated that our early voting would
[28:46]
be here in the municipal building. Um
and it was only going to be for two
[28:50]
days. The next day, well, a few days
later, I got an email stating that they
[28:55]
are extending early voting. So, it's now
going to be June 3rd um instead of June
[29:02]
6th. So, June 3rd until um Sunday before
the election day. That's all. Okay. No
[29:09]
problem.
Um and uh GeoWorks just signed that
[29:14]
today for the Walnut Valley Firehouse
Remediation. Um few more
[29:20]
tests that's all included in that that
hopefully that last check we gave them
[29:24]
and this No, I don't think so. I think
there'll be another there's going to be
[29:27]
another bill. No. Yeah, there'll be one
another test.
[29:31]
Yeah, they said there was two high
salinity in one and it's bad sample one
[29:36]
sample. Yeah, they could pass that first
sample the second they had to do second.
[29:42]
Don't ever let anyone test your soil
because it will take forever to make it
[29:46]
right.
Um, okay.
[29:51]
Yeah. Uh, new business. We've got uh
application for facility use uh
[29:56]
celebration of life foundation for June
14th for Quint Bridge Park.
[30:01]
Um, anyone get a chance to look at that?
I I have no issue with it. We've already
[30:07]
received the check and the um insurance
agent approved their certificate of
[30:11]
insurance. I mean, it's you're not going
to need the police or anything. No, it's
[30:14]
like less than They do it every year.
They never ask police.
[30:18]
Yeah. Um
uh the food shed alliance that's that's
[30:23]
for the uh the use of the parking lot
for our farmers market and that is
[30:29]
contingent on um a few certificate of
insurance from vendors. Okay. Uh and
[30:35]
then uh Boy Scout Troop 140 using
Sycamore Park on the 19th of May.
[30:40]
Everything's good with that with a
certificate of insurance. All right. And
[30:44]
excuse me one second though. I was
thinking about this. The baseball games
[30:47]
and still aren't going to live longer.
They already are um told about it. They
[30:51]
do not have a games that day or soccer.
It happens. This is another thing that's
[30:56]
every year. So they they're all aware of
it.
[31:07]
The Boy Scout troop is for the uh
the retire flags. They retired flags
[31:13]
that day. Yeah.
[31:23]
You know what that is, right? I I can't
really read the
[31:28]
It used to be London.
Yeah. Now it's
[31:34]
It's kind of hard to read, is it? Yeah.
But what is that event? So again, they
[31:40]
do it every year. Um this is the name of
the church that does on prayer day May
[31:47]
1st um Pastor Mark Eagle I think his
name is Eagle Conceal so sorry um comes
[31:53]
to the municipal building with some
other locals um other churches and they
[31:58]
do a prayer around the flag hole. Okay.
Again done it every year since I've been
[32:04]
here with the exception of
CO. All right. Uh and uh then the the
[32:11]
the Playerstown Youth Softball shed
maintenance request. So what do you have
[32:16]
something on that Walter? You were just
they're they're going to do it all under
[32:20]
your under your supervision. Sure. Okay.
And again, that's all um by the um
[32:27]
insurance agent because they had to have
a certificate of insurance. Okay. Do we
[32:29]
need can we vote on these all in their
entirety here? I mean really you don't
[32:33]
you requested that I don't put repeats
on, right?
[32:38]
However, um I do put it on only because
we need to make the public aware of
[32:42]
things. Okay. We just do a That's fine.
Nice. All in favor for all of these.
[32:49]
Well, uh celebration of life pays us.
So, we don't pay anybody out. So, we're
[32:53]
good. We're good. All in favor. Okay.
I'll make the motion to approval.
[33:00]
Fantastic. We have a second. I have a
second. All right. All in favor? I. All
[33:05]
post. Great. All right. We love all that
stuff. Uh there's a lot of
[33:09]
correspondence. Is there anything in
here of note that we need to pull out
[33:13]
and talk about because a lot of it is
Mrs. Van or sorry woman van mockenberg
[33:18]
has requested that we um ask Jose Ortiz
to come to one of our meetings to
[33:22]
explain what the heck's going on. So
with the permission of the committee,
[33:25]
I'll I'll reach out to him and see when
he come to the next meeting. Yeah. I'm
[33:30]
sure he's sure he's not going to have
much to say. No, I think you'll have a
[33:34]
pack. Yeah, they don't have a a canned
response that that's all that the
[33:39]
communication guys do. They don't really
they're not the numbers guys, so they
[33:43]
they can't speak too much on billing.
But,
[33:46]
uh, it would be nice to hear because my
bill has doubled over the past year and
[33:53]
then we have a 20% almost a 20% increase
coming up in June. Also, um I don't know
[33:59]
if you want me to have Lisa Hibs come at
a different time cuz she's the one that
[34:04]
does the um the IDT, the energy
um program. Yes. Did you see the email
[34:13]
that they had said? Yeah, it's in your
correspondence.
[34:16]
Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a grim
situation with we're all going to be
[34:20]
eating candle light dinner come in
today. Walter was there too and uh her
[34:26]
her bill which she said she really never
had to win $280 a month is 900 for two
[34:31]
months in a row. Um actually you made a
comment to me about tagging the mayor.
[34:36]
Jose responded. Yeah. Instantly you did
well I have to get the account number so
[34:42]
so thank you. Yeah they couldn't find
her. I think we're going to look her up.
[34:46]
Uh but yeah, it's it's really
a it it's going to get to the point
[34:52]
where we're going to be paying more in
electric than in taxes. That's how I
[34:58]
those things that must
I want to see electric.
[35:10]
Let let us all know please be on that.
uh from the township attorney.
[35:17]
Relatively quiet mayor, but I I did note
in in the package there's a couple
[35:22]
letters that our zoning officer sent out
to property owners
[35:26]
with pictures attached that show quite a
bit of junk and debris. Um, I've just
[35:32]
recently been working on some ordinance
uh upgrades and amendments and some of
[35:37]
the other municipalities because
uh, and I'll check with Dave on this,
[35:42]
but um, a lot of zoning officers are
running into a lot of problems enforcing
[35:46]
their summones in municipal court.
Municipal court can't issue bench bench
[35:51]
warrants. They can't do trials by
absentee. and the word has kind of
[35:56]
gotten out on the street that if you get
a zoning something, you can just ignore
[36:00]
it at your leisure. Um, so it's become
quite frustrating for zoning officers.
[36:06]
Um, so and I I know also he's citing a
an old privately operated dump
[36:13]
ordinance, which is not really the best
way to go about this. It also doesn't
[36:17]
make it sound really good for the
homeowner. I think a lot of them take
[36:19]
offense to that. So, um I know but
they're we know they're not operating
[36:24]
dumps obviously. Some some of the picks
are pretty bad, but um so I think for
[36:29]
next month in advance of the meeting,
I'll circulate u perhaps a proposed
[36:34]
revis ordinance for you guys to start
digesting. Maybe we can get a little
[36:37]
little handle on these things. Process
of trying to implement in some way other
[36:42]
municipalities. I think it's kind of
unique across the state, but I think
[36:46]
it's enforceable. It's
basically there are statutes that say we
[36:50]
can, you know, if somebody ignores the
zoning officer, we can actually do the
[36:54]
cleanup and impose the cost as a lean,
but the problem is that can be several
[36:58]
thousand dollar cost. You got to dig in
your pocket first and recover. Yeah. um
[37:03]
we can add that permission to to a a
proper property maintenance ordinance.
[37:07]
But I also want to go one step further
and and instead of having a summon issue
[37:12]
potentially to have a a a notice of
hearing. If a notice of violation is
[37:16]
ignored, the next notice would not be a
summon be a notice of hearing for
[37:21]
here. And then this would be our due
process here for anybody who wants to
[37:25]
contest the nature of the notice
violation that they've issued. if they
[37:29]
don't show up, we can still drive them
an absence again. And at the end of the
[37:33]
day, if we find that the violation is is
appropriate, um instead of cleaning it
[37:37]
up ourselves, we would have our zing
offer get a couple quotes, we would
[37:42]
select the lowest responsible quote and
certify
[37:45]
that. And I think that I think that's uh
it's a bit creative, I think, but I
[37:51]
think it will put some heat back in
zoning enforcement.
[37:56]
um because it's not your judge's fault
or anything. This is a statewide problem
[38:00]
ever since the municipal court reforms
um several years ago. Um but any I
[38:07]
thought that maybe would looking at this
we take a look at that maybe get
[38:10]
something to you for the next month on
that. Um and I think we also mentioned
[38:15]
the dog the dogs u impound fee stuff. So
I think you'll be see I'm working on
[38:20]
that as well and a couple nice with Rob.
So, I think you'll see something
[38:24]
probably on that. Okay, very good. Thank
you. Other than that, I think we're
[38:28]
pretty quiet.
Kristen, you have any reports? Um, just
[38:31]
a reminder, May 16th there's shredding
event will be held here in the municipal
[38:35]
parking lot from 8 to 11th and spring
cleanup will be May 27th through May
[38:40]
31st with vouchers being handed out
April 2. April 10th. April 10th. April
[38:46]
10th. Oh, April 10th. We're having Thank
you. We are having um a seminar here in
[38:52]
the municipal building for seniors
regarding the new anchor program. Um it
[38:57]
is going to be held um by members of the
state and they're also going to um I
[39:03]
guess have a setup to log you on to the
program and help you with that.
[39:10]
So now I'm done. Committee woman
Falconberg. Okay. All right. Uh, first,
[39:18]
happy birthday, Lorraine. Lorraine's
birthday was a couple of days ago. Hey,
[39:21]
Lorraine, happy birthday. Happy
birthday. She works really hard on on uh
[39:26]
the seniors. And on March 5th, we had
the pre privilege of hosting assembling
[39:31]
the mail uh to speak to our seniors. We
had uh seniors from more than our town.
[39:37]
Other towns didn't come in uh for it.
Was well attended and they had asked a
[39:42]
lot of questions. He was here over an
hour and a half answering answering
[39:46]
questions. He got his money good. He got
our money's worried about. Yeah. So that
[39:51]
that was a nice a nice program. On
finance, the committee met on March 22nd
[39:56]
at 9:00 a.m. to discuss this year's
budget. We're limited to a 3.5 cent uh
[40:02]
increase in appropriations. A 3 and a
half cent increase in not on taxes.
[40:08]
Please don't think that that's taxes.
percent percentage on the cap on the cap
[40:13]
percent right percent in appropriations
uh which became extremely difficult to
[40:19]
maintain since the cost of living over
the last 3 years uh 2022 was 8% 2023 was
[40:25]
4.1 and 2024 was 2.9. So this uh
consumer price index was not reflected
[40:32]
in our um ability to raise the cap to
bring our cost up as as the CPI had gone
[40:41]
up. Um that affected everything from
labor to utilities to insurance and
[40:45]
products. And just an example, our cost
this year for salt alone the um CFO is
[40:51]
telling me is close to 100,000 already.
Is that more than we've ever paid for
[40:55]
salt? That has to be an alltime high.
Yes. Well, you know, if you look at the
[40:58]
weather this year, it was very little
snow and a lot of ice. Yeah. Lot of lot
[41:03]
of a lot of ice. We went down to five
below. Yeah. So, and they were salty
[41:07]
constantly. I think every single storm
they have a lot of salt going out. Um
[41:12]
so, um we will be introducing the budget
on April 23rd and the public hearing
[41:16]
will be May
28th. Uh as far as shared services are
[41:20]
concerned, we've received three
different emails stating that the
[41:23]
salaries from other municipalities are
pensionable. Now we just have to work up
[41:28]
our numbers.
So yeah. Okay. Um uh the court we're
[41:35]
just exploring possibly bringing the
court closer to home. Um all right. In
[41:42]
speaking with our CFO, she had made a
couple of suggestions regarding um one
[41:47]
of the things that we should really look
at in changing and this is a change in
[41:51]
our employee benefits to the Omni
Healthcare only for any new employees.
[41:57]
um the Omni there's a big difference
between the Omni Healthare and the other
[42:02]
healthcare that we were providing and
she feels that the way things have been
[42:06]
going we could you know everybody else
gets grandfathered but any new employees
[42:11]
we would only permit under the Omni
Healthcare so I don't know if that would
[42:15]
have to be a resolution as a change to
there's a there's a form for that from
[42:21]
from the state the only thing I just to
offer the Omni Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not
[42:28]
quite sure you're going to be able to do
that to check it then because my
[42:30]
understanding is they have multiple
different categories about five. Yes.
[42:34]
The last form I saw I just recently saw
this in our municipality they state was
[42:39]
indicating you must provide one in each
category like there's an HSA there's a
[42:45]
high level there's one where the omni
is. So I I think Chris Christine better
[42:49]
check on that. All right. No I'll talk
about that to follow up on that. Uh the
[42:54]
other suggestion that our CFO had made
was um increasing the dog fees that uh
[43:00]
possibly going um to you know in order
to cover our acco rabies clinic our
[43:05]
licensing uh maybe going 20 to 20 and 25
and 10 and 15 for seniors and and um
[43:13]
federalists. So that's something else
and that would be an ordinance change
[43:16]
because I believe that's on ordinance
the the values money that's there. So,
[43:21]
that's another thing to think about.
But, um, we have a lot of dogs in this
[43:26]
in this town and you know, we are paying
Well, when you say think about it, what
[43:30]
what would what would spur any action to
do with that? I guess a vote to to
[43:36]
change something back in the next year.
Yeah, I will. Yeah. I want to just
[43:40]
reconfirm the numbers with Christine. We
did raise, you
[43:43]
know, last year. No, last year to 10
to$10 from $6. I think we're still very
[43:50]
much on a lot of other towns. Yeah. We
we kept the we kept the seniors and the
[43:54]
veterans the same. We never changed
theirs, right? So, we're looking. It's
[44:00]
not a big increase. It really isn't.
But, you know, as time goes on, between
[44:06]
the the fees that the state is
collecting, right, the rabies clinic,
[44:10]
the licensing, all these different
costs, if we can recoup a little bit,
[44:15]
even uh you know, maintaining the dog
park and everything, um it may be it's
[44:20]
something's got to happen because do
those like surprise vet bills also come
[44:25]
out of that copper?
Well, you know what? Every now and then
[44:30]
we'll have the
comes out of a dog, right?
[44:39]
All right, that's it. Thank you. Give
the name of it. Uh just an update on uh
[44:46]
Walnut Valley septic uh for the field.
Um all of the required uh permits were
[44:52]
submitted to the health department. uh
they uh our engineers have received back
[44:58]
their uh report. Uh they had some
comments that they're addressing. Uh
[45:02]
they're going to check back with them
after they resubmit their comments, but
[45:07]
they should have that next week.
Cool. Weather's getting warmer. It is.
[45:14]
Um Committee Lance, thank you. Um well,
just a couple things. First, I was very
[45:21]
happy to be able to uh work towards uh
the budget that's been uh discussed and
[45:27]
will be presented shortly. Um I think
the whole thing for that is to
[45:31]
understand that uh the basis of allowing
the cap bank to happen is not that
[45:36]
anyone's raising your taxes. Um they
they will go up, but the whole point is
[45:41]
to be able to bank the ability to um
work within our means. uh there's not
[45:46]
any way that we can we can you know
raise more money but that's not the
[45:50]
point. Point is there are so many things
that are just contractually obligated
[45:53]
and we're limited to what uh how they're
handled and how they're allowed to be
[45:58]
funded. So I was happy to see that we
were able to come to a good resolution
[46:01]
for that. Um
for we have two grant applications that
[46:07]
we're working on right now for
Blairestown Historic. Um, one of them is
[46:12]
a renewal of uh the one from last year
for the county um historic uh u sorry
[46:18]
municipal trust and how it's going to
work out hasn't been even announced yet
[46:23]
but we're ready. Um the other uh one
that we're doing is something through
[46:27]
the state and we're looking forward to
presenting some of the same information
[46:31]
that we have towards uh receiving that.
Um, in addition to that, there is an
[46:37]
upcoming recreation grant which will be
a renewal of the one that we got last
[46:40]
year for the Walnut Valley Field. So,
we'll be working on that. Eric, I think
[46:46]
we're going to have to spend some time
putting some more numbers together for
[46:49]
our engineer for that. That was 70,000
if I'm not mistaken. Last year, last
[46:53]
year. Um, but I think the the whole bit
for that there there's a there was a
[46:58]
limitation. So, what we're really
waiting for is what is the number? What
[47:01]
are we allowed to apply for up to? So uh
but it's nice to see that that's
[47:05]
progressing. What would you do with that
grant? That's Walnut Valley, right? So
[47:10]
it's a recreation grant. So the first
grant was there for the uh diagnostic
[47:14]
and planning and some of the different
samples similar to the spot that it's
[47:19]
adjacent to which they had all the
pollution there from the uh W Valley
[47:24]
Firehouse. So it's immediately adjacent
to that. So the concern is that anything
[47:28]
that's there is not going to have had
any spread. Uh we're confident so far
[47:32]
that none of it has. The samples that
we're going are getting better and
[47:36]
better. So I'm happy for that. The
problem is the location and proximity to
[47:41]
the uh uh the body of water that's
there. I guess the tributary creek.
[47:46]
Yeah. So that's that's a problem for
that. But um it'll be very very nice to
[47:50]
be able to see a functioning uh um
septic in that building. That's I'm
[47:54]
thinking I was thinking I'm looking at
that picture. I'm thinking of the Borak
[47:57]
property. Oh no no no. Pat would be
happy. No, it is nice because the
[48:02]
different facilities that we have should
be, you know, top-notch and to be able
[48:05]
to offer uh our residents, uh, you know,
that is positive. That's all I have. All
[48:11]
right. Very good. Deputy Mayor Cut, what
do you have for us? I have nothing
[48:16]
tonight. Thank you.
Is it a full moon or something? Just
[48:22]
keep going there. Are you sure? I'm
going to give you Should I get a cap?
[48:28]
Wait, can I We're going to take your
time and give it back to me. Yeah,
[48:32]
because Bob Herstat is in the room. Even
though I don't have my statistics here,
[48:36]
he does and he has the story to tell.
Bob, I'd love to hear. Do you know them
[48:40]
off the top of your head? I have nothing
to say. Okay,
[48:45]
I don't
think that I
[48:51]
I squad handles the about thousand about
100 calls this month. uh volunteer uh
[48:58]
hours about 768 volunteer hours. We also
had most of our calls were grass
[49:04]
town is not the amount. I'll let you ask
some questions in a minute when I'm
[49:08]
done.
Um we entertain troop 140 on Monday.
[49:14]
They came to our building. We gave them
a tour um for all our equipment and what
[49:18]
it cost. For instance, a a
Lupus Lupus CPR machine was
[49:25]
$17,000 kind to buy a car for that kind
of money and we have three of them that
[49:29]
we need in our rigs. Uh it kind of make
them stop to think that what it cost to
[49:35]
run. Uh we let them go in our rigs. We
show them how to refill oxygen tanks. Uh
[49:41]
they may have gotten a uh American. I'm
not sure.
[49:46]
Probably part of their first name. Yeah,
exactly. Um, and let's see. I know you
[49:52]
want to ask my questions. So, if you're
not um if you don't ask me
[49:56]
um okay uh regarding uh not SWAT not
having u an ambulance, we actually they
[50:03]
still don't. But now Atlantic Health is
running a rig out of N. Uh it's not
[50:10]
called 41, which is the township
designation number. It's called 1551. 51
[50:15]
is the rig number. and they've been
answering some calls which is terrific.
[50:19]
Um they're staffed which is great. Um
and uh we have been going west
[50:25]
fortunately because we take a rig out of
town with manpower to go there and this
[50:30]
leaves our county but no one on the call
is a second call with we just can't get
[50:35]
it. Fortunately they've taken care of it
and let's see what else. Uh, do they
[50:41]
come out of both house or do they keep
they come out over
[50:47]
at Milton has an
[50:51]
old need to be updated but everything?
Yeah. Uh, and u let me
[50:58]
think. I think I ran out of stuff. Sorry
guys. Sorry. No, that's okay. That's
[51:03]
okay. The other thing I wanted to
mention is that um we um we were able to
[51:08]
understand uh this past Saturday when we
had our our finance uh um our budget uh
[51:13]
discussion that um we're in the market
for a new rig um and we are looking for
[51:18]
something in the neighborhood of 300,000
in order to fund that. That's about a
[51:23]
new cost because there's a 19 it's a 20
it's 20 years old 30 years old as a
[51:28]
matter of fact. Uh, it kind of sits
there. It has a small old week. We don't
[51:33]
really want EMS calls on it. We put the
standbys. However, a new rig
[51:40]
cost $300,000 fully fully equipped. I
mean, you can buy a rig for less, but
[51:46]
then you have to have
[51:49]
So, just so you know, we did get the
commitment of our u auditor to be able
[51:54]
to sit with us and understand uh the
opportunities that we would be able to
[51:59]
present. some of those fees or some cost
sharing to some of the neighboring
[52:02]
communities as well since we do serve
them. Well, that's very nice. That's
[52:06]
good to know. Speak to my accountant.
Excuse me. The squad's account. You
[52:10]
don't want my account. Well, the squad's
account. Just the same. I didn't want it
[52:14]
to pass and I apologize for having to
call back, but I appreciate No, no. I
[52:19]
appreciate your insight. Thank you
everybody.
[52:23]
Thank you everybody. I'll give you a
second chance, Debbie. Do you have any?
[52:27]
All right. I just thought something.
Okay.
[52:34]
All right. So, uh let's see. Um police
over the past month, a few uh few things
[52:41]
occurred. Owner of Simply Day Spa,
uh Sun Chang was arrested and charged
[52:48]
with one count of sexual assault, 12
counts of criminal sexual contact for
[52:52]
illegal contact conduct during massages.
They're asking for anyone who feels they
[52:57]
may have been a victim uh to contact our
police department. And at this time, we
[53:03]
have an additional nine victims who have
come forward with more charges pending.
[53:09]
Uh Warren County paving Facebook post
and Nixl announcements are forthcoming.
[53:14]
They'll be paving 521 Stillwater Road
from Bridge Street to High Street
[53:18]
starting the week of April 21st. Paving
will be two days during the elementary
[53:23]
school spring break. One lane will be
open during that time. Pipe work and
[53:26]
site prep will begin next week and there
will be lane closures. Veil Road and
[53:31]
Mount Herman Road is scheduled to be
paved the following week of April 28th.
[53:36]
They will have one lane open and
scheduled to take 4 days. And Officer
[53:40]
Dylan completed defensive tactics
instructor training. It's a new
[53:44]
requirement for police licensing and it
gives us the ability to stay compliant
[53:49]
without sending officers to the police
academy every year. As far as uh
[53:55]
Blairestown uh fire department host
company number one, they had fairly
[54:00]
light month. They did uh they had 10
members participate in an ice rescue
[54:05]
training exercise with Hope Fire
Department. They had 18 calls for
[54:09]
service in February, which is pretty
it's on the light side. It's nice. Uh 11
[54:14]
in Blairestown, three in Hardwick, and
four mutual aid. And uh I don't think I
[54:21]
have anything else
to bring forth. You mentioned you were
[54:25]
talking about the county. That's the
county. Yeah. Do they notify the
[54:29]
schools? They do notify. Yeah, they
work. That's that's why they're working
[54:33]
with the uh the spring break uh window
there. Uh open up the floor again. Any
[54:40]
Joel, do you have anything for us
tonight? You just you just wanted us to
[54:44]
I do have something I would like to say.
Come on up.
[54:55]
I have to identify myself. I'd like
that. Okay. Joel Mc Green, Farm Valley
[54:59]
Lane, Clartown, New
Jersey. You don't have many patrons here
[55:05]
tonight. Um or cut or members of the
public. And I think one of the reasons
[55:11]
is I would say half of you don't talk
into the
[55:16]
microphone, including our esteemed
lawyer who I never hear at all. I wear
[55:22]
hearing aids and I sit in the back and
most of the time I can't hear you and
[55:29]
um be nice if I could. And uh please try
to do that and maybe I'll come back
[55:37]
again. Can you hear me, Joel? I
absolutely am I okay? You're fine. And
[55:42]
here I thought you were coming up to
thank the quick work of the road
[55:47]
department for fixing the farm your sign
at your private
[55:52]
road within hours. I believe it was
fixed. That was the second thing I was
[55:58]
going to say. Oh, okay. Stole my
thunder. But thank you. Appreciate it.
[56:04]
Thanks for all the work you guys do.
Appreciate it. Thank you. Do me a favor,
[56:08]
gentlemen. If you come and and that
happens, we we asked Lorine and I asked
[56:13]
somebody else one time that was sitting
in the back. Just raise your hand. Yeah,
[56:16]
you can stop it. If you can't hear us,
stop us at any time. It's it's it's
[56:20]
fine. There's also you turn towards
pinging. There's like a feedback kind of
[56:25]
thing all night. Since you're asking, I
don't hear anything. No, I I actually
[56:30]
hear it with my with my miracle ears. I
hear it. Bob, do you hear like like a
[56:35]
feedback?
Unless it's the supernatural talking to
[56:40]
anybody.
I think you have the youngest ears in
[56:43]
the in the audience. So, I'll give you a
pass. The only thing we don't hear is
[56:48]
when you actually turn your head to
speak to another country person, you
[56:52]
knock us away from the microphone. We
don't want that. That's
[56:55]
probably You did not go up to the
microphone and I heard nothing. You said
[57:00]
maybe that's your intent. See? Yeah.
I'll tell you. I'll tell you now.
[57:07]
Oh, I thought there I thought you guys
was going to fight us.
[57:12]
I don't want to hurt.
I would love a motion to adjourn. So
[57:18]
move in favor and all oppose. Thank you
everyone.
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