[0:00] One hour a moment, and another, and another, five kilometers a year earlier.

[0:05] For the second one, I have three sets of two per another, two per five other, focused on,

[0:10] other, three, fifty minutes, one hour, five goals per other.

[0:16] I've never two-month significant, it's at the end of July, $47,

[0:19] to the end of

[0:32] July, $50,000, and multi-second, new policy, new improvements,

[0:34] It's 70s.

[0:37] We have a positive and a set of alpha waves.

[0:39] Aye, no.

[0:40] Social Security.

[0:41] Ten number of areas.

[0:42] Jet register.

[0:45] Jet bag of alpha.

[1:03] That seems to be concerns.

[1:08] Let's say it's not delicious.

[1:09] Just one of those things.

[1:11] And you know.

[1:17] Not in the direct register.

[1:20] Your life part of my death.

[1:22] Yeah.

[1:23] Second of all, too.

[1:25] Aye, aye, aye.

[1:26] Motion carries.

[1:27] That is number four.

[1:28] the discussion, the discussion, the discussion, the next part of the

[1:31] we're going to go to the district of the field group, and he's

[1:34] still there.

[1:34] It's interesting to have you back on this.

[1:37] The place that we explained in the current several

[1:40] retail, and after the end of the year of that, I mean,

[1:43] one of the more fancy, you have the TNW standard review done.

[1:49] Between there and the current still pretty, you know,

[1:52] filled with that.

[1:53] Yeah, there's the R&D Coral kind of goes to the TNW.

[1:57] I don't know how hard they are.

[1:59] It's still the second part of the two of them.

[2:01] The family of wisdom.

[2:03] As far as I know, I don't know how hard she is.

[2:09] How many years do you know?

[2:14] It's like 70 years.

[2:17] How many years do you know?

[2:19] I don't know.

[2:20] There's one.

[2:21] This phase will be, maybe I think,

[2:24] Okay, I need to pour this phase, 230, something for them.

[2:31] So they fall after

[2:34] them.

[2:34] Now I'm just very curious.

[2:36] Yeah, if they got all the water, they're aware of all that.

[2:38] Fuckin' these.

[2:39] Does this plan set in here?

[2:40] It doesn't set in.

[2:41] It doesn't set in.

[2:46] How about this?

[2:47] I would imagine.

[2:48] You killed it.

[2:59] Yes.

[3:00] That quicks.

[3:01] There's one.

[3:02] There's one.

[3:04] All

[3:07] right.

[3:10] I don't think there's anything.

[3:12] It doesn't.

[3:13] It doesn't.

[3:16] You got that approved out there.

[3:19] Well, there's part of it.

[3:20] It's like Facebook.

[3:22] So it was actually, you know, what was that before I get it?

[3:33] Questions?

[3:34] Let's build

[3:38] up on this link face.

[3:40] What are you saying?

[3:42] This?

[3:43] Yeah, everything else right around it.

[3:44] Yeah, everything's kind of, they're right.

[3:46] They're not going to court over the North to 4,000.

[3:48] It comes into the back side of,

[3:51] a remuner of 3600 type of.

[3:53] It'll be different property owners.

[3:54] But as it does go, that's what we're trying to do is off.

[3:57] The West side of review it over to the North and C.

[4:01] Row, with his current still, and the side of the business.

[4:10] You might have said, if one

[4:20] falls through the petition

[4:23] of the English property, it's the industry for still proof

[4:28] based for the development of the West side of the schools.

[4:34] Second, we have a question that the subject

[4:37] I don't know what it is, but I don't know what it is.

[4:40] So, she carries, I just survived,

[4:44] frontward in that place, Matthew,

[4:47] of the next time on a long,

[4:48] we're back feeling just waiting for

[4:52] my traditions, the other one, full wire,

[4:54] but I'm a little bit in some compassion on it.

[4:58] Just go to Shila's family for a great,

[5:00] just been a process to see.

[5:02] There's those and the finishing out of their last phases

[5:05] are, they're tiny for a ball today and then it should be, you know, college, and that's

[5:11] literally the effect traffic flow through there, and it's at least that's college, but

[5:15] hopefully we can get out of there. And then our railroad board is kind of going to hold,

[5:21] we've been waiting for the railroad board. We're waiting on, being able to locate their signal

[5:26] I know that sounds pretty doubt, but that's over at.

[5:32] If I don't contact with him, he'd reach out,

[5:34] if I could reach out, if I could reach out.

[5:36] I can't get anything going.

[5:37] We actually have a meeting for Thursday on the contract

[5:39] but that's a major nurse to see what we can get.

[5:42] Is that a different kind of treatment?

[5:44] But it will be, yes.

[5:47] It may be a construction on that project,

[5:50] then they've got a next construction room before.

[5:54] So, apart from the kind of advertisement, though, down there through, there's no one was behind

[6:02] spikes, very much, you get 15,

[6:14] we've looked at what we did at damages, I don't know if we've talked

[6:17] about it.

[6:18] It's kind of hard to get approved, and how much, you know what I mean, as far as what

[6:23] prop percentage they had done, what sign of all that.

[6:39] I

[6:44] think the best thing we're talking about is to be able to work it out and just get up

[6:52] at least in any more time even for all of this.

[6:55] I'm not about letting it,

[7:00] unless they need it, yeah, so that's something that's a view

[7:11] I don't know if we can squeeze, but for the turn-up, you know, you don't know if we've had the nerve, so we've been trying to just work through it the best we can.

[7:21] There's so close, you know, as we do this time and then it's just a matter of operating values that you to have.

[7:32] Video meeting, make the paragraph made the vote a little bit? Well, protest.

[7:38] office for task. That is something changed.

[7:43] Swing on city and to your job.

[7:49] All right, that's a vote, bill.

[7:51] What are I three deferred to North Lawdon have to take for our hearts to reflect every product that

[7:57] I've put up there, that what's the burden that our seventy-eight think.

[7:58] So we can't do anything until.

[8:00] So I can't stand.

[8:01] I can't stand.

[8:01] It's a care on the other, or a project.

[8:03] What do you think?

[8:04] 50, maybe as arent.

[8:05] innovation. Let's do

[8:11] it. We actually don't have any property if they're we're considering

[8:14] really. Yeah, both locations are on split in a row. We have a lot of

[8:19] different computer.

[8:23] I think that's a lot of report. I mean,

[8:37] as you can see it does

[8:38] the same. It's sort of worth a year. Oh, I think it is as we

[8:43] They're about this month of dollars, you know, and all that, so it all went in on second

[8:48] period of August.

[8:49] It was pretty much good.

[8:51] Well, I mean, too.

[8:52] It used to turn all that right.

[8:53] It brings us in.

[8:54] It was pretty odd.

[8:55] For August.

[8:56] So I mean, obviously, those percentage will jump up.

[8:59] The bearishness, whether it's how long, it's likely very well enough, no, it's going to

[9:04] fan a couple of different, with a set of some point, just how much they get,

[9:13] you know.

[9:13] but then the year is just whether a long second

[9:16] or is going to be available for that type of bill.

[9:19] And it looks like the fish tank is out on the desk,

[9:23] geographically on the pants, you know,

[9:25] if you're below the canal or below the canal,

[9:28] where you're at that way, so.

[9:30] Well, I'll just,

[9:34] you're pretty happy to keep number

[9:35] so.

[9:36] Let's pretty good.

[9:37] It shows that people are conservative.

[9:39] I mean, not a ton, but we're doing pretty good.

[9:46] The weather turned into the summer,

[9:47] what we should have done. We've shared it off because we found some coal form positive. It's not

[9:54] e-coar, it's coal form. We need to treat it with the, with chlorine that we're trying to do,

[9:59] we decided to just keep it out just so we don't have any issues. We're going to have a little bit of

[10:04] kind of, and rather, we're not going to have any issues. I want to go through there and clean it and

[10:09] do some projects on it, so we can clean it up. So I only have some, I don't know if anybody's ever checked

[10:21] So,

[10:24] okay, the questions in one of the flip?

[10:29] Yeah, I remember seven, there's a total of those questions.

[10:33] There's a point.

[10:34] Two of those.

[10:36] I've got to be slides.

[10:38] I want to share with that.

[10:39] You're possible to have to hear.

[10:41] Thank you.

[10:42] You have the...

[10:45] Is that a best way?

[10:48] This is showing probably honest.

[10:49] What we typically done.

[10:50] Okay, I just want to make a zoom. Yeah, okay, or you can email it to me and I come up and up and share it.

[10:59] Yeah, whatever you want.

[11:02] Yeah, I'm going to go up harder. I mean.

[11:06] Thank you, Mario.

[11:07] And would you give that a quick update of fastest?

[11:12] Well, fine work with you.

[11:15] Or if it's what issue or second on your Wi-Fi, because that's who last time.

[11:20] which should be Cameron and Cole West come up.

[11:27] Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned that beginning

[11:29] at the end of the fastest, or West.com.

[11:34] See you at the end of the bar, open up.

[11:51] Excuse me, Eric, thank you.

[12:10] I didn't get great.

[12:12] Just because you need to be watching when they go.

[12:15] I need to get on to the second.

[12:16] But the other thing that we take that book,

[12:39] did it Cameron and Cole West.com, right?

[12:46] Did you send it at the end of the podcast?

[12:51] And should I watch from back when it comes back there

[13:31] now you know what I'm going to do I've got I've got friends and copies of that's faster I want I don't want to take up both

[13:41] Let's maybe

[13:43] I don't want to take up every guy's time anymore than I need to I don't know that I haven't got that you may have to

[13:50] You may have to share a little bit

[13:53] I want to take those,

[14:00] while you're passing that out first of all, my name is Cameron Jackson.

[14:04] It was, we appreciate, we appreciate the opportunity to come and chat a little bit.

[14:14] It might be helpful to just start with a little bit.

[14:19] Nobody get one or at least how to make the share.

[14:21] Yeah, I think that will go up and up and that's correct, all right, wow, I'm in an exact

[14:27] right.

[14:27] I've never had a second.

[14:30] Again, appreciate the board's time.

[14:32] We've had several conversations with Matt and his staff that they've been good to me with

[14:40] us and they've been very patient, but wanted to just get in front of the board for a minute and kind

[14:49] of get some feedback from you all.

[14:51] We have kind of a couple big decisions to make as it relates to the pleasant planes property.

[15:00] We, I think, know Craig Jackson, so he and his family are actually the elders of the property.

[15:06] So, whole West is currently under contract to purchase that property from the Jackson Family.

[15:12] I think you can see on the map where it's located, it's in plain city, we've been working with Mayor Miron and his staff laws, a development agreement to develop this property within plain city.

[15:27] And as we've evaluated this property, we have a few different options kind of in front of us as we think about water because of where we are geographically and because of the size of this property, that opens up kind of a few different options.

[15:48] we've had, obviously discussions with that, and his staff, if you've had some discussions with

[15:55] the Warren West foreign water district, and then through the had some discussions about

[16:01] the potentials of creating a new water district for this property given in size,

[16:08] you know, there may be other landowners in the area that, you know, they want to be part

[16:13] of the digital water district, but I think, you know, for a lot of reasons, as we've, you know,

[16:21] chatted with Matt and the staff, there were a lot of reasons why Bonnet bits make sense for us,

[16:28] but, you know, there's maybe also some reasons why that may not make sense.

[16:33] And so, kind of wanted to just have a discussion with this more today on that, and, you know, perhaps,

[16:41] Look at some ways that we could work together in ways that, you know, might be mutually beneficial to a lot of this to this further.

[16:50] But I find maybe start with a little bit of history.

[16:56] I know that Craig Jackson and his family started talking to one of this to probably about four years ago about this project.

[17:04] to manage a staff or kind of well aware of the history, but this is kind of just a

[17:08] quickly run sort of kind of sort of the benefit of the board that may not be

[17:12] aware. So they started talking to this board about four years ago, in

[17:17] 225, there were discussions that were curried about annexing this land into

[17:23] all of this. There is a piece actually on your map, there's a little bit of

[17:27] spot, right there inside the red that's all going to be part of the district.

[17:31] But the rest of the Red Foundry has not been announced yet.

[17:37] And so there were discussions in 2025 about annexation, and at that point in time, those discussions were,

[17:45] hey, you know, you use the landowner, take care of your secondary gliders, and you can come in,

[17:51] and there will be any guider dedication required.

[17:56] What happened after that then is there a series of decisions and investments that were made

[18:01] are and kind of with those churses and thines, there was an easement that was given to a lot of

[18:08] bits, so without any consideration, and make quite a bit of decisions in the direction

[18:13] of banning session, and we're all a bit later, Brady Danics, and then as I understand that there

[18:18] was a new resolution that passed, I think there was a human that would require new annexies,

[18:27] if that's the right word, new annexies to bring in water shares, which we understand that.

[18:33] And if we were to join bodies, we would plan on breaking water shares to before we don't

[18:42] think that's a problem. I think though what we wanted to talk about and understand is as we

[18:50] As we made that decision, again, this is the dedication rate for the diversion rate for

[18:57] a bunch of this as we've evaluated this and looked at the numbers. It appears to be a

[19:03] little bit shy to us and we've got through longer through kind of a couple of quick grasses

[19:08] to why we why we think that way. But I think a second that aside for a minute, I think part of what

[19:16] monitored discuss, given the size of this land and given, you know, kind of the expansion

[19:22] that's occurring in the area, Asia's are there ways that we can't with this land that we

[19:30] to help bond against that. It will be where to come in. And so as I look at this information here,

[19:40] Matt, this is my default.

[19:42] We pulled this from 2024.

[19:46] And so you obviously know this much better than we do.

[19:50] But as we look at this, what it seemed like is there's,

[19:56] there's a lot of war rights that the district has,

[19:59] and there's several wells, some of them

[20:03] are not appear, at least from this again.

[20:06] Outside, look at him, you guys might tell me

[20:08] of nuts and that's good to me. I'm going to put it outside and look at it and there's a number

[20:12] of wells. Some of them are sort of producing but most of them maybe aren't producing as well

[20:18] as you'd like and most of the water is coming from we were based in as that. Is that am I going to

[20:26] get it done right? From the realm to even on there to not even a production there's nothing there.

[20:32] Okay, but I guess the fact is we do get what most of our water is really based in that area of

[20:38] And so, this is maybe more of a question than anything else is, is there benefit to

[20:46] one of this, in having additional websites in here, you know, that you're in the process,

[20:52] I think you're a little bit right here next door, I think, and so, well, I think what do

[21:00] you mean, like I think you're in projects, you're gonna have to have to have a well, some sort

[21:05] the coming. So yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. I think the question is, obviously, we anticipate that our project would be source water.

[21:15] As we looked at this, is there other additional needs that the district may have and may have been working for sites for additional wells?

[21:24] Well, you don't even be on that.

[21:26] So you could provide the district?

[21:29] Detentionally, yeah.

[21:30] When you're thought, well, if you're done with COVID-19.

[21:33] Correct.

[21:36] Well, yeah, we've got it.

[21:37] There was.

[21:39] I mean, we're behind there, but

[21:43] I guess that's kind of a trick.

[21:44] I mean, what do you, I don't understand how to get down there like on your property.

[21:48] Yeah, so I mean, you know, look, if there's property, but the district already,

[21:53] oh, it's the way you'd be putting wells then great.

[21:56] But I think the question is,

[21:58] And again, you guys know this much better than I do, but just looking at this, I don't

[22:04] know what the rate is with me replacement, but my assumption is, if you've gotten around

[22:10] wells and you've gotten around well, sites, that's a better way to get source water

[22:14] than buying it for me replacement.

[22:17] That's all relative.

[22:21] On quality and quantity.

[22:23] So just to have a piece of ground, you know, look, scramming, we've done a period.

[22:27] That doesn't mean you can get good water.

[22:31] We will thank for this support. We just bought that property behind us, we spent 400,000 rubble, that's really, that was okay.

[22:43] But there's no, like, so dedicated ground to really just how to, we can't see what's underneath the ground, that was the one or something.

[22:52] Even if we get the ground and all that, we still have to go to all that.

[22:56] So, yeah, and sorry, let me be maybe a little more clear.

[23:00] I think what I'm suggesting is, because we get that, you've got to know if you've actually

[23:04] got a good well or not before you before it makes sense.

[23:08] So, what I'm proposing is, doesn't make sense to work together to do some work, some exploration,

[23:18] to potentially locate sites that would be favorable for wells on your property.

[23:24] Yeah, honestly, from when I can gather the further West to go, the less the water quality is, is

[23:37] that sure an accurate, I don't know, and I tell you, you're the well, see, damn.

[23:42] So that's what it kind of suggests, right? Great, the further West, the less the quality.

[23:48] So it's your thought, and if you guys think about sort of long term, is your thought, then that you would just continue to purchase.

[23:57] water through a beaver base in a game outside or just trying to understand how how

[24:02] we're going to speak with her well.

[24:04] Okay.

[24:04] I don't know.

[24:05] Properties that we all.

[24:10] You know, when you say the water quality is worse going once.

[24:14] That's based on our own experience.

[24:16] There's, I mean, there's data out there that shows that.

[24:19] I mean, they say that you kind of want to stay with.

[24:21] You just divide 15.

[24:22] That's it.

[24:23] Yeah, let's say you tell us lots of studies that doesn't study for years.

[24:27] And they take a look at the quality of the quality and so on.

[24:32] And the studies that we've been reviewing try to find a new place

[24:35] show that further the closer you get to the lake the less the water going.

[24:39] So you have a map, and you can put up just kind of shows where your wells are.

[24:44] You have now. So we have one of well.

[24:47] It's a lot of wild beasts to hear.

[24:50] We could probably, I think you got to see that map out of you.

[24:53] I mean, I mean, I'm not sure.

[24:55] I mean, I think though, with chemistry I'm saying is, if we don't, we're going to build a lot of infrastructure, we know that.

[25:11] Just have that includes wells that, potentially, that includes other different types of tanks.

[25:18] This is a big problem.

[25:20] The question is, is there a way we can do this in a way that we fabricate the district

[25:24] to make sense?

[25:26] And, you know, well, it's going to put anywhere that we can find property with the wells.

[25:29] It's going to be on our property to be on the beachfront.

[25:32] But if we're going to pay you to drill wells, fill them where you can get to the bottom of

[25:39] this there, and if we need to drill a bigger well, it's not about that, so they can get

[25:47] more water out.

[25:48] But now I understand, you never know what you're going to do with a well, but that is a stop

[25:54] people can deal with once.

[25:56] So we're just trying to understand, you know, we think that there's a way, there's a lot

[26:00] of synergy that you can protect for a year with the money that we're going to spend any

[26:04] way to build infrastructure, to build it in a way that's best beneficial to the bottom of

[26:09] this.

[26:10] And that's what we're trying to explore.

[26:12] And it was just very conceptual at this point, obviously, because we haven't done any

[26:16] But the idea is, if we were to come and spend an $X dollars on infrastructure, what

[26:23] have infrastructure would be, benefit us, and obviously would benefit us too, benefits

[26:29] on a visitor, or in the district.

[26:31] That's kind of, that's kind of the idea.

[26:33] That's the question.

[26:35] This is a good question.

[26:36] We're going to talk with the attorney.

[26:38] One of the questions we're going to have to evaluate.

[26:40] Now, we'd like to buy water from we verbase it because, you know, that's a second gradator.

[26:46] Then, press, obviously, we would like to.

[26:49] Press, press, pop, start to get.

[26:52] Something important.

[26:54] Something that the board needs to consider is that it's not just wet water that we're looking for,

[26:58] but we need paper water as well.

[27:00] So even if we drill well sites, we're still going to have to allocate shares sufficient to cover those well sites.

[27:05] So that's something to be considered in the overall evaluation of your proposal.

[27:12] Yeah.

[27:12] And we have some different water rights, which we can share all that information with you.

[27:16] Obviously, that may or may have just been here again for many years.

[27:20] We have significant, some lower water rights or 1,800 rights.

[27:22] And we're a later than that.

[27:24] Yeah.

[27:24] It's a good amount of water.

[27:25] So we're not only similar people water right now.

[27:29] I mean, happy to share all that information.

[27:32] So you see what can happen.

[27:33] But we're not going to just not like drive around to stay with the heritage.

[27:38] We have very large amount of the water rights in the thousands of degrees.

[27:44] So are there, so whether it's wells, obviously storage transmission, we understand that we would need to be investing in significant amount of infrastructure.

[27:56] I think our question is really, we're trying to approach the board from a partnership standpoint and say, what do you need?

[28:04] I will be most beneficial to you.

[28:08] I think we need to step back to the beginning and think of what you say, partnership, you're

[28:16] not a district yet.

[28:18] So I think we need to look at, I mean, if they need to pass the ball out and look at that,

[28:23] we need to say partnership of the airplane and partnership here, but you need to be kind

[28:27] of a part of the district.

[28:28] We're not employing that at all.

[28:30] So when we need to go there, it's our part of the exam list that it is put in the cart

[28:34] some of that works, you know. But like you see, they're applying over the build of partnership.

[28:41] Not that we're looking now, but maybe we're towards one, what we give if the district

[28:46] is a benefit, if it's a district, you know, just that I think it's just your back share

[28:52] whatever one else is given, you know, whatever's required, resource, and if they've tried that,

[28:57] So if we don't, we can provide a repeat, if we're sure to figure out, we'll

[29:03] could give us more.

[29:04] Yeah, that's a good one.

[29:08] What's that?

[29:09] And there's a serious line.

[29:10] And why is coming up?

[29:13] Yeah, I kind of feel like I mean, there's a gift that we're just going to tell you

[29:15] if we can give more than what you need.

[29:18] Like where we play all the time.

[29:20] Forgive me.

[29:21] That's right.

[29:22] That's right.

[29:22] That's another question.

[29:24] You know, the feeling that guy in the white band.

[29:32] We have a, some say for example, Mike, like he mentioned, we have so much.

[29:36] One option is we could create our own water company, our own water industry career.

[29:41] That's going to have a positive.

[29:43] There are a lot of ways having two districts.

[29:46] One district's better than two districts.

[29:50] That's, I guess, a matter of opinion.

[29:54] You know, if you don't watch your history to grow, we need to know that too, so we know.

[30:00] Moisture direction ago. We just think there's a lot of data and synergy and the economies of scale that if we think creatively at this point rather than what's the minimum we have to do. We have to more, you always do point things. I'm sure we're doing more of the minimum for plus and, you know, for the city as well. We don't kind of say what's the absolute minimum we have to do.

[30:25] You know, we want to know, is there a ways that if we like located tanks in certain places would that be beneficial to the district and we're going to have to build a tank anyway.

[30:36] Again, you have a water system.

[30:38] We don't.

[30:39] You know better than we know, we'll have to do what things would benefit your water system wells in one location.

[30:45] We're not limited just the locations on our property.

[30:48] If there were other locations that we could locate a well, our water rights, you know, we can find a change application.

[30:55] location and have those diverted from a lot of places in that general area.

[31:00] And so that's the question, what do you look at for your world, for your build-out?

[31:05] Now, if it's just, you know, this is not just going to work or not going to, you know,

[31:09] you just want to keep both of this to the way it is, then we can start going down that

[31:13] other road.

[31:14] And we, well, I mean, if you've got enough units per 30, 3500 units, that's a lot.

[31:20] We know, and so the question is, well, let's share something in water district, too.

[31:25] What's that?

[31:26] Thought let's share something in water district, too.

[31:28] So I'm trying to say, I'm just going to do to make it.

[31:30] So let's stress.

[31:32] We're thinking we do not, you know, and we don't know those things.

[31:34] I mean, we can't come in and say, here's our plan.

[31:37] This is where we want to put the wells.

[31:39] This is where we want to put the tanks.

[31:41] Because we know where we put them for ourselves.

[31:44] We've got these here.

[31:45] Just like you have.

[31:46] And that's what engineers do.

[31:47] But what we don't know is, okay, how does that benefit the district?

[31:53] Well, those districts, at least once I've represented for many of yours, you know, they look for opportunities for strategic growth, because it gives them redundancy, it gives it work capacity, it gives it economies of scale.

[32:08] But I'm not going to come here to try to pursue anything about that with you guys.

[32:13] This is your district. You may first see these.

[32:16] even. So I'm looking at saying from bottom of this in our customers that we have to protect,

[32:25] you know, and we want to we can do better great. But so what's in it for bottom of this

[32:33] for throwing a few things out, but once you've added to us to it, if we were to do this,

[32:39] what would be the fault of the balance of we can predict that the customer's right now go, okay,

[32:44] We're going to protect you, but it's going to be better if it's off.

[32:49] There's no sense going that road.

[32:51] So what are you looking to bring in to the district that's better than what we have?

[32:55] We're asking, that's a question we're asking is, what can we bring this better than you have?

[33:01] We don't know what that is.

[33:03] What's the need?

[33:05] I mean, how would we do that?

[33:06] You're saying, we're going to ask the district, if it is great, it was talk about that.

[33:11] We don't know, we can't come to say, this is how we can make your district better.

[33:16] We don't know those answers.

[33:17] She said he was against another line.

[33:18] Well, we will answer your question.

[33:21] We've positive some ideas right here.

[33:24] So this is the second page and we're in your little pocket there.

[33:28] So, to the friends point, we don't necessarily know what those things are,

[33:33] but these are our ideas, and we'd love to hear yours,

[33:36] and turn to what would benefit you, what would be most beneficial.

[33:40] So, so we've talked about a well-sight if that, you know, if we need a data, look at a couple

[33:46] of well-sightes, we could do that.

[33:49] Is there land-to-meated?

[33:51] This is a 1500-acre piece of ground where, I'm quite sure, there'll be expansion of development

[33:57] to the south in other areas that where there may be a need for future distribution of your

[34:04] water system to other places besides us, right?

[34:07] So is there land needed for infrastructure for the district?

[34:12] Does you think about your strategic growth

[34:15] over the next five, 10, 15, 50 years?

[34:18] Again, we don't know.

[34:20] These are sort of things that we've thought about,

[34:23] but there are more questions than answers.

[34:26] Obviously, we would be bringing as Mr. Crockett said

[34:30] on the line there.

[34:31] We would be bringing paper water to the table

[34:35] we have over 3,000 acre feet that we have that we own.

[34:42] We would be obviously willing to do our course in the share of storage and transmission.

[34:48] You know, as we think about storage, particularly we often also know that if you're the first

[34:53] guy and sometimes you have to be the one that puts in the tank and there's usually some sort

[34:57] of a reimbursement, pioneering, very many type of thing.

[35:01] What is your current storage situation?

[35:03] are you in the native storage? Is that something that you can't help with?

[35:07] We're going to, the lowest storage was. But a lot of these things are things you're going

[35:11] to have to bring into the United States anyway. So, yeah. I mean, water rights are going

[35:16] to have to bring in. Proportionist, shared storage, that's already what this have dedicated

[35:23] well-site. I mean, that's just a piece of throughout the rest.

[35:27] Yeah, but I think it would be maybe a better way to phrase that is working through the

[35:33] practice to your point.

[35:34] It doesn't make any sense to just say, hey, here's a piece of ground that let's hope that

[35:39] even real well there networks that doesn't make any sense.

[35:42] A better way to phrase that would be, hey, where do we think the highest likelihood of success

[35:51] might be on the property, where we might find water, and let's go find a site there and

[35:56] to see if it works. And if it does great, if we have a wellness, it doesn't, and it doesn't.

[36:02] Typically also, when we get a well, we usually require a whole acre of land. The reason being,

[36:07] because you have to have, it's called some one, which is up the other foot radius.

[36:13] And you do a hundred foot radius on a square at the equal value.

[36:17] So as you look, as you consider that, please keep that in mind.

[36:22] We just have to keep everything sewer,

[36:26] I haven't had this touch right now and it's off to that one.

[36:29] Yeah, it's very solid for me.

[36:31] So look, sorry, we're concerned with being able to look,

[36:34] we all wonder how about there, a lot of us,

[36:37] how are the different areas out there,

[36:38] you're almost almost all of this.

[36:41] Obviously, we look at the treatment plan.

[36:45] That's kind of a great plan out there, it's like,

[36:48] eventually it's going to flow.

[36:50] Eventually you're going to have a water out there.

[36:51] on you guys are coping with all that, that would be a concern to me, as a board of

[36:56] ever building a treatment plan out there, but what elevation, as soon as we get flooded

[37:04] situation went out of here, what he said is it will happen again. It always has, so I know,

[37:11] we cross the bridge, we've all seen the infiltration of water back into that system is a huge

[37:17] concerned, that would be, we try to mitigate it all the time, but there's going to be

[37:24] that substantial, and then it becomes a risk to get the difference.

[37:30] If it was a ballgame, if it comes to risk us, lawsuits, a lot of things, not worth it. Sure.

[37:36] So, I mean, and these are just things that are going on. Yeah, you know that. You guys can now back a good comment, and then say, well, yeah, let's look at this, let's maybe propose these things.

[37:47] The one thing that does concern me, certainly on the board, but is the money, the board is outlayed up the board, but the district is outlayed already looking at all.

[37:59] We're a small district and this has been cost of us to go over potential side plants doing our engineering.

[38:10] I'm just looking at engineering.

[38:12] We just paid for them.

[38:13] It's not as if you've got a lot of different things.

[38:16] It all comes at a cost.

[38:17] Everytime something comes in without some meat on the table.

[38:20] Somewhere they get cost all of our residents money.

[38:24] Everytime we look at something.

[38:26] or basically, that is a good thing.

[38:29] And I can certainly appreciate back

[38:31] as we're kind of in the same boat,

[38:33] I mean, we've invested probably hundreds of thousands of dollars

[38:37] and, again, I don't, I don't say this to be rude

[38:41] by any stretch of the imagination

[38:43] that we made a lot of real big decisions based on conversations

[38:47] that we had with the district in 2025,

[38:50] that are now very different.

[38:52] And so that's also part of why we're here is,

[38:56] We've even met students about, so I get an understanding of that, but I don't want to sound rude either, but when people ask me, why don't we spend the money on this?

[39:05] Yeah, I gotta have a reason to say, well, why are we? Yeah, at this point, why are we paying?

[39:10] Yeah, everybody, if you hear that, and if I'll get anything at this point, most of the cities come to the point where we get in the development.

[39:20] Yeah, we have something in mind as you can get some money up from, yeah, that carries a smoothness, sure, it doesn't work out, it doesn't, but the customers that are paying, everybody's wages, so that's what I'm looking at too is we're going to keep going down and through, I don't know what that process is, probably have a better idea of this kind of thing.

[39:46] was their application, maybe,

[39:50] or what we were doing by conversations. We were close and then the

[39:55] resolution asked that we could be broke and so could kind of pause things. But we were within

[40:01] probably weeks of that application.

[40:08] Well, do you understand the reason for

[40:10] I do. I do. Yeah. I mean, you know, this part of the town is where all the buildings,

[40:15] that's all of a sudden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we have limited resources.

[40:22] We know what our resources are in the water to be already available on that. Yeah.

[40:28] Okay. That was the influence for them. Yeah. The whole discussion about what we do with them.

[40:35] Yeah. No, and we understand that.

[40:37] You know, it's just it's math and it's numbers right and so we're not like I said earlier

[40:44] We're not opposed to bringing our shares. I think let me maybe then get to your question of

[40:50] Okay, why I think as we've we spent a lot of time studying this and we've met with that and great a couple times

[40:58] And big and good enough to share some of their deal with us as we've looked at this and we've spent time with the division of drinking water

[41:07] as well, and as we look at these numbers, I think our feeling is that in our concerns, when

[41:12] you're talking about a project of this size, and this is really why we're here to not just

[41:18] going through the process of, like, okay, here's our application analytics, let's go, because

[41:23] for us, this isn't, you know, a hundred anchor, or a hundred units subdivision, where you kind of

[41:37] water rights and of course, frankly, the wet water as well as well as represents millions of dollars.

[41:44] So it's not a decision that we take lightly, which is why we're here wanting to discuss that with you.

[41:51] And so as we've looked at the diversion ride for the dedication ride, as we've reviewed,

[41:56] kind of where things are at it, it's our understanding and things may have changed by now again.

[42:00] we don't have insight into everything that the goings on at the sport that our understanding

[42:07] is that the last time that your system sizing was done with a specific drinking water was

[42:14] in 2023 and every three years. Yeah, so it's about every three years that that comes

[42:20] too with the division of drinking water. So it would be roughly time to update that again,

[42:25] regardless of what is happening with us. And so as we've looked at your data and we've looked at

[42:34] you know the amount of water that is giving to the meters of the youth factor in

[42:40] you know source water, it's system loss. We understand that that's usually about a 10-15 percent

[42:46] addition on top of what's going to the meters. What we would want to ask for as you think about

[42:53] that system sizing is to look at your data

[42:57] and revise that back down to what we feel

[43:02] is a more appropriate dedication rate, that's 0.25.

[43:07] And if you look at the next slide,

[43:10] that's kind of where I'm getting that information.

[43:12] That's basically your source water numbers

[43:17] for glass two years.

[43:19] And as we've understood it, the way that the current dedication rate of 0.34 is figured

[43:27] is kind of based on how two things, the year 2020 was chosen as kind of the year that was

[43:35] used to kind of develop the standard as we talked about this with the state, with the division

[43:40] of drinking water, what they recommend is at least a three year kind of an average of years,

[43:46] So that you don't get one year to sort of an anomaly.

[43:49] And the year that the view is 2020, which happens to be

[43:53] the highest year of usage over the last several years.

[43:59] So if you look at kind of the graph right here,

[44:01] you can see how much higher 2020 is than any of those other years.

[44:07] The second piece of that is, as we understand it,

[44:10] you have a 19% variability rate in terms of how

[44:14] 4.34 dedication rate is calculated in talking to the state position of drinking water, they've

[44:22] actually done a way with variability rates. They're not, they're not something that they require cities

[44:27] and water districts to add.

[44:32] Well, okay, that's, that's not what we understand that we can, we can

[44:44] I think our concern and then I'm trying to get to the punch line there guys because I know you're probably just being down there.

[44:51] If you look at this page right here, I think our concern is as we think about, so I get it.

[45:00] Back up here for a minute, I get a bit of district, as you've said, you know, needs to protect itself, needs to make sure that it has enough resources to serve its customers.

[45:09] We totally understand that and agree with that. That makes perfect sense, that's sure, that's your job, that's your duty.

[45:16] I guess as we've thought about this and we've looked at the data, it feels that to us that the diversion rate is a bit high.

[45:24] And so as we, as from the outside of looking at these, we're not annexed yet, we, you know, we think of my faith that makes sense to do that.

[45:33] But as from the outside of looking at, we're saying, is this a district that we want to be a part of, given what it would require in terms of, you know, paper water, investment in all of the infrastructure, whether that's well,

[45:45] So we're a transmission all of that if the diversion rate is as high as it is, and so as we look at some of these numbers, the system loss rate that, you know, is how you get from your meter rate to your source rate is also quite high.

[46:03] So we have some concerns, right?

[46:06] any water district's going to have different things about

[46:09] different situations that are going to make it tough.

[46:14] I think this is why Matt's got a tough job.

[46:17] He's got to manage all this, right? And so I definitely empathize

[46:20] with what he has to work with and deal with it.

[46:24] That would be our ask is that if you would be willing to adjust your

[46:29] or adjust your system sizing in your diversion rate based on kind of the data.

[46:38] And if that's something else, you can just go to that data.

[46:42] How do you feel?

[46:43] You know, you've won over the pre-solve.

[46:46] One of the questions that I have for you is how long do you think it would take for your development to come in?

[46:54] You're not talking three years, you're talking probably 15, 20 years or so.

[46:59] You mean before we start, you know, the force bill and you take, oh, fill that.

[47:04] I'll fill that problem in totality, probably 25 years.

[47:08] So I guess what I'm getting out with that is, right now we have any systems

[47:13] specific sites in the letter state.

[47:15] Sure, I'll tell you we have another one.

[47:17] Those are the numbers that we use.

[47:21] And, you know, one of the things that you mentioned here and you're going to your bullet

[47:27] point is water rights dedication with each residential class, and the point and commercial

[47:33] site is, is a matter of between the lights and say you would add it with those individual

[47:40] plots and then commercial sites.

[47:43] I think our annexation would be contingent upon whatever sort of an agreement we can get with

[47:50] board and with the district, I think we want to find a good agreement and a good way to work

[47:57] with you all that works. And then the thought would be as we once were annexed, you know, so

[48:04] it would be like let's have an agreement about what annexation looks like in terms of infrastructure

[48:10] in terms of dedication rate. And then in terms of actually dedicating those paper water rights

[48:16] to the districts, our plan that we would dedicate them

[48:20] with each clap, with each residential clap.

[48:23] And then I think this was something you brought

[48:25] of actually what are our meetings,

[48:26] when it comes to commercial.

[48:28] What makes the most sense there, to us,

[48:31] is a site of plant evaluation, because I think it was you

[48:34] that made the point that, hey, a car wash

[48:37] is going to use a whole heck of a lot more water

[48:40] than a baby gap.

[48:42] They're both commercial, but they're water

[48:44] and usage is very, very different.

[48:45] And so it likely makes sense on a site plan specific basis to look at commercial dedications that way.

[48:54] Residential is a little more predictable, right?

[48:57] You just do the math on the law side of the number of units and how large the whole summer and what your dedication needs to be.

[49:05] That's a little more predictable.

[49:07] But commercial, I think as I look at some of your data, I think I put that in here.

[49:11] I know that when we look into it a lot of your industrial commercial users are using a ton of water which is probably what is, you know, pushing up your pushing up some of their system losses because you've got some really big commercial and industrial users and your system.

[49:29] And so that's a maybe perhaps another way that we could help you is how we, how do we want to look at how we want to look at commercial together.

[49:38] Okay, something that we could discuss, but I think primarily, you know, what we like to see is,

[49:45] hey, is there an opportunity either through, is that every three years, as you said,

[49:51] through an adjustment to your system specific sizing or through perhaps given the size and scope of

[49:58] this development, a separate agreement that we could strive with the district to do, you know,

[50:16] I just want to ask one quick question and then I have a comment, if my understanding is correct, you're under contract to purchase the property and so you're hoping to have as many of these questions answered ahead of time before that sale actually goes through, right?

[50:35] Sure. Yeah. I completely respect that. I think what you're going to run into is it's far

[50:43] too speculative for the board to entertain right now in this format. And I don't have

[50:48] your sheet in front of me, so you may have already done this already. But I would suggest

[50:54] to written proposal for the board to consider separately from this meeting. It probably

[50:59] have to go into close session to discuss it. But I think you're going to run into some issues

[51:05] that you're going to have to deal with in the future, which is you're asking the district

[51:09] to adjust their overall resolution with regards to exactions in the future. And we have developers

[51:17] in line already waiting and wondering what's going to happen with this. And so unless we can

[51:23] show some parameters, put on this, I don't think the board is going to just modify its resolution

[51:32] based on this one development. And so I guess the biggest question would be is when the board

[51:37] goes back and looks at all of the issues, are they going to want to even modify the resolution?

[51:43] And if they don't, that send you your answer. I mean, there's a process to challenge the

[51:46] But the thing is is this is way too premature for us to even evaluate because that's based off an application

[51:55] And so I get that it's

[51:59] You want to have as much information as you can ahead of time

[52:03] But there's only so much you can do until somebody moves forward with an application or some has more concrete

[52:11] More concrete proposal

[52:12] So, if you want, I mean, I would say outline in great detail what your request is, and then the board will consider it, but, you know, right now, I just don't see that they have enough information even move forward.

[52:24] So, this is what I'm not on Council for the West. I think one of the thoughts that we have.

[52:30] Added the way to kind of approach this, and it's why we started with, you know, what can we provide in the district varieties.

[52:37] We are in the process of negotiating development agreement with Plain City, and it's in a lot of ways to say the same thing, right?

[52:43] For Plain City, we're basically saying, hey, we know how the property is on, and this is getting about Plain.

[52:48] We know how the property is on, and this is what we want, but we want to do with the property, and what can we provide the city to get the agreement to do that, and, you know,

[52:59] As we've talked with City Council, we've been very clear that this has got to be a two-way

[53:04] beneficial situation, our particular benefit for Midwest is obvious, right?

[53:09] And so how do we make the benefits of the city as it trails, is it parks, how do we make

[53:14] sure that we're doing our due diligence to make sure that we don't have a lot of the roads, just

[53:18] to all of those things. And so some of what we're doing here is a very similar concept for us,

[53:24] right? And we're saying we can understand why you would want to have over all your entire

[53:28] dedication grant, regardless of debates about what their greatest set is, and we understand

[53:35] the point that was just made like there's other developers seeing that we would have

[53:38] success. Our approach is basically this is such a large development. Can we do a one-off

[53:44] agreement with the districts where I, we set forth, and I don't know that you're going to be able

[53:49] to have a hard coat one number for 20 years, but perhaps you can be in our coat of formula

[53:54] or a way of doing this and as part of the least this is a work session as opposed to us having

[53:59] drafted something up is we don't know enough to start drafting something like that but

[54:04] it's actually we've put together a process where we determine for our development what the

[54:10] dedication and process with look life and for you guys for example why we do that as what we're saying

[54:16] yeah let's what do you need why would you do that how can we make it beneficial just like any

[54:21] right so that there's a plus for the district and a plus for progress or when when

[54:27] process. That's the idea that's a concept that we're kind of throwing

[54:30] account here. That's why he's led with what's going to be right is it if we could

[54:35] find the well that's above him beyond the source water that we need. Does that

[54:39] helpful? If we define plan high enough for a treatment plan. Is that helpful?

[54:45] But we don't know, right? So we're going to ask him. One question is what do you

[54:51] even have legs to this group, where we could determine a dedication, right?

[54:56] We do not want to go backwards, right?

[55:00] We want to make sure we're dedicated to what you need,

[55:02] but we want to be a more searchable, specific about what that is.

[55:06] We do, obviously, need some of our intent, certainty,

[55:10] before we buy a property of this size,

[55:12] because of the development to have, you know, something

[55:15] surprises such a fact.

[55:16] That's what all developers would do, that's why we're here,

[55:20] that's the reason for to go out many agreements,

[55:22] etc.

[55:23] But that's the concept,

[55:25] and this word session is kind of see

[55:27] if there's a temperature for that,

[55:29] or if that whole idea is just repulsive,

[55:32] but we're going to have to look true.

[55:34] You know, one thing that makes me nervous with,

[55:38] and probably,

[55:40] I'm going to say 75% of the development we see.

[55:43] I don't care where you're at,

[55:45] where there's a lot of promises made and you're still bound.

[55:49] that created tensions, don't get you anything, but monotons. That's what you guys are doing.

[55:55] Second, why wouldn't you? If you make money, make a profit that you're here for,

[56:01] that's, you know, we all work to make the money. So let's think of the very same as

[56:06] people. You're not gonna say anything. The thing with the infrastructure, when we start

[56:12] copy, I would say this is going to be a big source, thanks on site, things like that,

[56:18] the fire of the kitchen, I mean, there's some multi-million-dollar things, and I have to go

[56:23] in.

[56:25] That, obviously, the legal in that work out, in the work out, is how that's going to be said

[56:30] aside, as a, as a, you know, hold it in an escrow, because what I, what I don't like to

[56:37] is to 25-year-old out, also going to get to the end-year, and also sold out, and now there's

[56:44] so many families who pull that don't have to put this tank in. Some of the stuff would be

[56:49] that time back, but he, in Esco, right out the back up front, that I don't care who has it eventually.

[56:57] The money's there to put this all in, so that if it comes to work, he's going to be basically

[57:04] like they're asserting, absolutely raised to deal with that.

[57:08] Some of it feels with assignment provision,

[57:10] we're working on that with my city right now,

[57:13] and all the similar concerns.

[57:14] What are the options to assign this?

[57:16] Can it be assigned?

[57:17] We don't want somebody to buy the cow,

[57:19] so the totally agreed.

[57:21] So if you're talking about it, food beers, money,

[57:23] you could be bonds, they're a way to deal with that.

[57:26] And we would, that is kind of where the attorneys go on it,

[57:30] but we would block that to the ingredient.

[57:31] We wouldn't want, this isn't a bait switch,

[57:34] because of the setup, whatever we put it there.

[57:37] And there's a significant and, you know,

[57:40] Greg and Matt have a test to this for development,

[57:42] and it decides there's a significant amount

[57:44] of that infrastructure that we need to go down

[57:47] from in any kind.

[57:48] But that's a little bit to make this work.

[57:51] And so a lot of it would already be there,

[57:54] you know, essentially very, really,

[57:56] if not on day one.

[57:58] And, you know, we would need to do the engineering work

[58:01] to sus all that out and make sure that collectively,

[58:04] we all understand if a development of this size of the same conversations we're having with

[58:09] the city, you know, on sewer and roads and everything else, which is, you know, a development

[58:15] of this size would need to plan for these things. You need to understand what's going to come

[58:19] and what you've done to understand what they've cost and there needs to be agreement in place that's

[58:24] safe, who's going to do what went so that there aren't, you know, sort of, promises made and not

[58:31] that it's all documented and it's an ingredient.

[58:34] That's exactly what it suggests that it makes sense to you.

[58:37] And our interests are aligned, because if we build homes

[58:40] and there's no water, that's not good for buyers.

[58:44] There are buyers.

[58:44] It's not a good for reputation.

[58:47] So we don't want to...

[58:49] We're not looking to...

[58:50] Let us line that negotiation.

[58:53] Go ahead.

[58:54] I think we have a, I think maybe, well, two things.

[58:57] I think we do have a disagreement on diversion rate in our reading of the data and for

[59:05] us what else would you give a bit?

[59:08] Different district.

[59:11] Different district.

[59:12] What do you mean by?

[59:13] Well, if you've got the water's dedicated to that and the carbon we hear a part of you and

[59:18] a 0.05 or something, you're going to move the water somewhere else.

[59:24] I don't think that's what we want to do because I think it makes, that's why we're here.

[59:29] I think, you know, on a VISTA probably makes a way on how to say, you think, what do we do?

[59:34] I mean, like, why are we going to go, she had this, that's weird to me that you're not going to go, she had the other this.

[59:39] If you're wanting to work with us, wanting to come into the district.

[59:43] Well, we wouldn't want to, just like we don't want to under dedicate for our need.

[59:46] We don't want to over dedicate for our need either, right?

[59:49] And so, because we're going to eat the past, we're looking at, was that, like, here are, you know, the states, specific side of things.

[59:55] So, I guess that would be, are you with the state that the districts are actually placed?

[1:00:10] So, I don't know if they have exact information from 0.34, but again, we don't think you need what it give them. I know the best that you're saying.

[1:00:24] I mean, it's not necessarily, it's actually, it's, it's, it's sort of, it's been, it's a different kind of, it's not, it's not, it's legal.

[1:00:32] Okay, the other, there's engineers behind it, or I said, you know, there's, so, I think now I guess as we've, as we've, as we've,

[1:00:41] as we've back into the math that we've done through it a couple of different times now, there's an element of this that is,

[1:00:50] state required, but the state is also using the information that comes from the district

[1:00:56] and doing that, and there isn't a amount of discretion that's in it that the district

[1:01:00] has in terms of how they do that, and it's also based on what I'm doing to something

[1:01:05] or others.

[1:01:06] No, no, no.

[1:01:06] I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, I'm saying there's choices being made, particularly

[1:01:13] is related to very vividly rate and so things like that. I think that's where that's where we're

[1:01:20] coming from and again I wouldn't I wouldn't put it as doing something wrong or something like that.

[1:01:26] It's for us I guess I come back to when it's a small development of you know 100 houses whether it's

[1:01:34] 0.25 or 0.34, that's all you're going to need to develop.

[1:01:39] It's been 80 years, 175 or 20.

[1:01:42] That's all we'll be developing here, but over 25 years, it's 3500 units.

[1:01:48] That's how to hear it, right?

[1:01:49] It goes down to 1.15 or something over 25.

[1:01:52] That's 20, it's 100, 7500s a year.

[1:01:55] So I mean, that's really not out of mind about what we're doing that.

[1:01:59] So really, it's not much bigger than what we're looking

[1:02:03] we've been reading the agreement for all 30 to 5 hundred homes.

[1:02:06] If we don't want to stay at a time,

[1:02:07] you're not going to do what you want to say to the time of the pace.

[1:02:10] I mean, the last stage you're going to be going to be on our set of 5.

[1:02:12] On the year.

[1:02:13] Yeah, it's similar to what we do to the city in terms of the development agreement for the whole property.

[1:02:18] We had to buy the whole property running.

[1:02:20] So we had to be coming out of the by all the ones.

[1:02:22] We have to buy all the ones.

[1:02:24] I guess that's so.

[1:02:26] So if we're hearing you on the development,

[1:02:28] well, so our contract is to buy all the local ones.

[1:02:30] we're not going to be able to do that unless we have certainty that we're going to be able to

[1:02:34] go up with 117 to 12. So to Matt's in, but that's what you're going to do. And rock there's

[1:02:40] the site, the nicer of counting this against this 1, 3, 4 point, whatever. When you go up like

[1:02:48] you have plenty of water, they don't have that size to ask. But we've got 3,000 acre feet right now.

[1:02:54] We've talked about that every day in nature well, it's just like, are you digging and building

[1:02:59] something that, you know, you're talking from my standpoint as on the board of folks, we would

[1:03:06] like, you know, make sure we're covered with water, not just, and I don't meet the great talk

[1:03:12] better about it, but we've all seen where you'd go right when they say, oh, this is exactly

[1:03:18] what you have to have. I err of it, caution on this side that we have an expert, so some that does

[1:03:26] happen. We don't have to go back to all of our rhythm. There's a reason to come in.

[1:03:31] Anyway, that's good. I'm going to get a little bit more of a start from the same boat and it's

[1:03:35] sinking. This is a finite nature resource that we have to be aware.

[1:03:42] And we want to make this board, I know, fascinating. So I'm going to do it to be sure that we don't.

[1:03:49] our toes at all. I see this little slide back more than it make me nervous. So I actually think

[1:03:56] that the contract, that it's a more searchable approach to our agreement that we have

[1:04:01] at a brand, because I think that it gives the opportunity for both sides of children, numbers,

[1:04:06] they have to first of all get the ready to figure out a number, a formula, whatever. But I also think

[1:04:11] because we are dedicated, we are doing this in phase over five years, that you can look back and

[1:04:16] it was, the water use is more than the formula is providing that we need to adjust the formula.

[1:04:22] If it's less we need to adjust the formula and that can all be the agreement that provides

[1:04:27] us the certainty that we're going to be able to get water from Bonavista through a dedication

[1:04:33] rate that's fair and that adjusts based on use, whether it goes up or whether it goes down.

[1:04:40] I don't have a formula right now because that's math when I went to law school this mess stinks,

[1:04:44] But I, when I was just hanging up to all of it, I would say, so this question is for me, are you asking for the district to adjust this?

[1:04:58] It's current rate across the whole district or just for your development.

[1:05:02] Well, so we would be fine with either, but what we heard was that the appetite was not really to adjust it.

[1:05:09] That's not how you do it just from yours and from the act of bolstering everyone else.

[1:05:13] Show us how to develop a degree with a city.

[1:05:15] Right. I guess I would like to build rough by this thing.

[1:05:18] Why is hopeless to let there be a moment behind everyone else?

[1:05:21] We don't.

[1:05:22] But we would be prepared for this.

[1:05:23] For just all of that, this panel that arises, don't be finished though.

[1:05:26] The goal would be that we'll provide you something to build and be honored by the drones.

[1:05:30] So you talked about proportion.

[1:05:31] That's if we come in without an agreement.

[1:05:33] What we would like to do is come in with an agreement and provide you something or then proportional.

[1:05:38] That way, it is fair and you could really look at anybody, it was willing to come in and add more and send an agreement with them, just the same way, city, state, and so on.

[1:05:46] So, yes, we don't want any more in this month.

[1:05:49] Well, that's what we need.

[1:05:51] That was our leading question.

[1:05:52] It's kind of weird to me.

[1:05:53] What we need more than what's making us, you're going to have to have the source, source, the storage, and all that.

[1:06:01] It's part of my sense.

[1:06:02] You understand that the number change, particularly on how much blood or soup,

[1:06:07] So, we're already going to have it.

[1:06:08] Yeah.

[1:06:09] And you're very great.

[1:06:10] And we're going to work.

[1:06:11] What's that?

[1:06:12] But we're going to work.

[1:06:14] Well, I don't know.

[1:06:15] I'm going to be looking forward to it.

[1:06:16] And we're seeing what we're going to see.

[1:06:17] We can have a formula with what we're interested in your work.

[1:06:20] We're going to work.

[1:06:21] So you can kind of, you know, we're going to work.

[1:06:23] I don't know.

[1:06:24] And you're wanting to get to how many that we can't grow up.

[1:06:27] But that's.

[1:06:27] But they're going to grow a little off.

[1:06:28] The question was, why would you buy that?

[1:06:31] Why would we do that?

[1:06:32] I essentially want to do that.

[1:06:33] How would we be very everyone else?

[1:06:35] It's only for everyone else.

[1:06:36] It's only to do it. If we give you something beyond the baseline, and which of that such you don't, I don't know, I don't know if it's, well, I don't know if it's, well, I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's, I don't know what it is, right?

[1:06:51] I think we're going to disagree on the water that it's saying. Let's talk about a couple of other things. Chris Brown, very important point is that it would be a report for you to maybe come forward with something written.

[1:07:03] It says, okay, here's my tanks, here's my source, here's my storage, there it is, and then bring that to us.

[1:07:11] Obviously, it's a sticking point on the water rights.

[1:07:14] We've done some research, you've done some research, numbers aren't the same.

[1:07:18] We're going to have to talk a little bit more about that, that might take some time.

[1:07:22] And then I think we're going to give it through that this afternoon.

[1:07:24] Yeah, that's fine, right?

[1:07:25] I've done some of the things that I'd like you to do.

[1:07:30] And some kind of a rip goes to Chris, because there's no pattern. We need to make sure that typically when we do a well,

[1:07:42] they well, we don't want to point more than about 800 to 1000 GPM. Reason being, is it drops a groundwater table in that area,

[1:07:50] and then everything just kind of goes down from there to fix other wells from the vicinity.

[1:07:55] But it's $800,000.

[1:07:57] $800,000 to $1,000 GPM.

[1:07:59] Okay.

[1:08:00] My numbers show that you're going to need at least two wells.

[1:08:03] At least.

[1:08:05] So, try to take a look at that.

[1:08:07] Number two, everything's got to be about the flood zone and the historic place.

[1:08:12] I'm like 40 to 17.

[1:08:14] Everything that there.

[1:08:15] Any part of the structure.

[1:08:17] Number three, we're seeing the district indoor source only.

[1:08:21] First of all, your indoor storage only.

[1:08:23] There's about 1.3 million pounds that are due to the amount of that that makes sense.

[1:08:28] I'd based upon what's in the system's specific size, what we have to stick.

[1:08:33] If you create a separate pressure zone, there may be, we have double check, there may be any

[1:08:38] for you to have it in there, fire source as well.

[1:08:42] And depending on what you have inside your district, you may require anything from 2,000

[1:08:47] to PM that we're building this lowest 50 parent to PM that

[1:08:50] had an hour or two hour duration versus 8,000

[1:08:54] GPM at the four hour duration.

[1:08:56] You guys will have to tell us that.

[1:08:59] So we need to have that.

[1:09:01] And it will be nice if you could just

[1:09:03] enumerate those three or four items.

[1:09:05] The water, paper, water, storage, distribution.

[1:09:10] If there are, if there's going to be any

[1:09:12] for PMBs and such, then we need to kind of take a look

[1:09:14] at that.

[1:09:14] And we have to think they're my communities, because there's a difference.

[1:09:18] And then also, you're timing, I mean, that's the question you guys are finding

[1:09:24] all the property you wanted, all in and it's like you've already got any city.

[1:09:29] So, one of this is a district we only have one shop from you what we need, and we'd be

[1:09:34] that the annexation level.

[1:09:36] So there's a little bit of a disconnect there.

[1:09:38] We would like the water as we annexed it, but the same token we don't want to be thinking

[1:09:43] your water, say you brought it all to us, it's one fell swoop. We don't want it to be

[1:09:48] accounting for that over the next 25 years to say this water right went to this

[1:09:52] part, so of a proposal from you saying, this is how we want to face our

[1:09:58] annexation and this is how we want to face our faces and these are the things we

[1:10:02] want to go with each of those processes would be helpful to us. So we can

[1:10:07] receive your first iteration, we can take a look at it, make a second iteration and so forth.

[1:10:15] I'll just say you get it at the point three something, we're at our proposed dedication.

[1:10:20] Whatever, I mean you guys have some numbers there.

[1:10:23] But like I say, we've done some numbers, we've done some conversations with the state as well.

[1:10:27] If we feel strongly about our number, if you have Russia's hostages, you feel strongly vouchers.

[1:10:31] We need to have you to find why and what you plan on doing to mitigate that issue,

[1:10:41] because we're obviously

[1:10:43] You're asking about the same point, excuse me?

[1:10:47] Sorry, let me just say do it at your bottom line, because you said that you're going to want to show us exactly

[1:10:52] what above the bottom line that you're going to be, because you say you're disagree with our numbers

[1:10:56] and then show us what above you're going to give to benefit the district. The district will still have to make a

[1:11:02] determination as to whether they agree with your numbers or not, but at least that's a starting point.

[1:11:06] So I think you said back earlier that it was 0.25 if I remember correctly.

[1:11:12] The first time we talked with you guys who was 0.21 today is 0.25.

[1:11:17] You guys are getting closer.

[1:11:18] We're like, I'm saying that before, rather, we're moving in here, but if you want to

[1:11:24] move that, I think the most of the degrees, or we're going to help that, I'm going to

[1:11:27] get ready for that.

[1:11:28] It was in favor of $1.37, anyway, anyway, we need to take that and come up with that

[1:11:34] and like Chris says, tell us what you've got, because obviously, the numbers you're proposing

[1:11:40] are a real significant point for this, for this board.

[1:11:44] And then also one thing that needs to be added under this, as has been mentioned a couple

[1:11:50] times, usually when we review a site plan, the developers' page is that it is reviewed

[1:11:56] fees. We have not received anything from you guys, there has been that discussion,

[1:12:00] but that really doesn't need to be dedicated by you if you're going to keep coming to the

[1:12:04] order.

[1:12:04] I would like to ask you in, like, we had a grandfather that things changed going forward.

[1:12:10] But there's never been anything.

[1:12:12] But I didn't know that in the streets.

[1:12:17] That's a thousand bucks an acre.

[1:12:20] I'm going to find the fees are 450 plus 75 dollars a lot for that.

[1:12:24] I think we'd be fine if there's like a review fee or something like that.

[1:12:29] I think we'd be fine with that.

[1:12:31] That's not a problem.

[1:12:32] I think the question is,

[1:12:34] you asked over a few without a man like that. You know, one thing that I see in other

[1:12:39] status districts too is you just basically pay Christmas time and a great time. Yeah. And

[1:12:45] a little bit for, I don't know, I think we can do that. That's not a problem. I don't know if that's okay

[1:12:51] with you. I don't know. I'd like to talk to Chris about that. I don't know. We're just, we're a few

[1:12:57] on funds that potentially may not go for it. Yeah, because it's not just a matter of dollars. It's

[1:13:02] of taking people out of the field, which we don't have the ability to really cover, and so that's

[1:13:07] kind of the problem with these coming in without really those concrete plans. There's not a lot

[1:13:12] of the district can do. And I don't know how far we're going to get today, but I would start off

[1:13:16] yeah, with your proposal, with the bottom line, what you're going to do up above that bottom line

[1:13:22] to benefit the district. And then the district can look at those numbers and determine whether they're

[1:13:27] going to keep the resolution, modify the resolution or ask you for more information.

[1:13:32] I'll add one other thing that I'll shut up so I don't have to interrupt.

[1:13:35] I heard at the beginning, sorry, this is way out of order, but I heard at the beginning

[1:13:39] and talks about it, it was leading towards promissory stoppage, detrimental alliance.

[1:13:43] I've already advised the board on that, they're well aware of the issue, any communication.

[1:13:48] I would ask that that go through me with that particular topic.

[1:13:53] So one thing on the question that I had you mentioned about the C, is the request that we

[1:13:59] the annexation fee, where we determine whether we want to apply for annexation, just go

[1:14:04] out if you guys took a look at the question.

[1:14:07] Yeah, I mean, if you want to do the plan of your fee,

[1:14:09] when you're basically, you're having our major error fee,

[1:14:13] your agent of finance.

[1:14:15] So what about you?

[1:14:16] I'll just sign up now.

[1:14:17] I'll just go forward with that location.

[1:14:18] Is there something like this?

[1:14:19] You have the unused portion that you're going to guess?

[1:14:22] I guess you guys could pay that.

[1:14:24] You could pay that.

[1:14:27] And you know what's in there, please?

[1:14:29] Yeah, like that's, yeah.

[1:14:31] Yeah, yeah.

[1:14:31] But having just, they're different from that though.

[1:14:34] Yeah, they're different from that though.

[1:14:35] Yeah, they're different from my feet.

[1:14:36] Yeah, I mean, you got, I mean, it's good.

[1:14:38] I mean, at least in here, I think I can translate it.

[1:14:40] You could like, you know, put together a few things.

[1:14:42] It feels inequitable that they before that,

[1:14:44] and they should see it.

[1:14:45] And then if we don't end up annexing, that's what went fall.

[1:14:47] And what's for, what did you say that people was from exposition?

[1:14:49] A thousand bucks an acre.

[1:14:51] So if we had a thousand dollars, that would be a dollar.

[1:14:53] It's sort of a recycled for a little development and everything like it's all I want to do

[1:15:00] That's what you're doing over our engineering state. You got to pay that all in. I can hire a lot of engineers for $0.00 for a long long time.

[1:15:06] So this is unfair to address the residents for the government.

[1:15:09] And it's like our unspeagled might be, is it a big unspeagled?

[1:15:12] When there's peace, we're not saying it's not very the rest of us.

[1:15:14] But maybe there might be some other laws to be specific to that.

[1:15:19] If you're a man, as you can have an eight years in this not, but if you're an anti-cantel, it's not that much more expensive to repeat.

[1:15:28] So what if we just charge for the annexation?

[1:15:31] We just got us in books, thousands of months later, and thank you.

[1:15:35] So I think our question is, we're finding a thousand of us in a year to face a thousand

[1:15:39] more than an expiration date.

[1:15:40] Our question is, does I need to agree?

[1:15:42] Is there a bill?

[1:15:45] No, I don't know.

[1:15:46] We don't want you to go back to this.

[1:15:47] We're happy to pay your attorney's fees, your interest fees, whatever.

[1:15:52] That won't be a billion in a half dollars, right?

[1:15:55] And so we'd be happy to table fees up front and have that applied through the NXH could be if we did

[1:16:01] fair plan.

[1:16:02] So I think that's a chance.

[1:16:03] I think that's a chance.

[1:16:04] I feel for me to personally that if we want to have a plan review that we keep track of your

[1:16:11] time, can you time whoever looks at it, your crisis, whatever is involved in it.

[1:16:17] And you guys agree to pay that direct.

[1:16:21] But for any reviews they do, I'm not interested in anything.

[1:16:23] I think you had to bring that on just like just to say, bring that to us, so you want

[1:16:27] like your bottom line and then we can go from there and ask ourselves, is we've done something

[1:16:32] similar with plain city because they have foster acts, so they're reviewing our development

[1:16:38] agreements, so they've got attorney's fees, they've got staff fees and all of that, and so we

[1:16:42] paid a fee that was sort of equal to what those people's time was to review the application

[1:16:50] before it happens. Before we come in, I guess what I'm saying, Matt is to us, it doesn't

[1:16:56] make sense to pay a million dollars for the size of this to them and they're not annexed.

[1:17:02] That doesn't seem right. That we came to annex, they seem to think that that's not the final

[1:17:06] 50 piece. Yeah, or whatever we don't have. So what are we going to do? What are we going to do?

[1:17:10] What are we going to do? So that's the first script made to suggest some give us an

[1:17:13] escrow account that we can draw from or or the piece that are being sent out in this.

[1:17:19] Whether the $1,000 they hear those sorts, like these, Chris Smith, or maybe else story.

[1:17:25] Sure, the meantime, submitted Fesco account, maybe we've been talking about, yeah, looks

[1:17:30] that is.

[1:17:31] It's just a lot of this that is an already on the past, it's a short one for sure.

[1:17:35] We don't want anybody to work for free.

[1:17:37] I think the question is just maybe if we have like an hourly rate and based on what the

[1:17:42] application would be, what we think the number of hours might be, we're happy to do that.

[1:17:46] we wish we knew that if you don't know what you guys give us, we'll give you all the five,

[1:17:52] we're also fine with an agreement to pay to those adults that count online, right?

[1:17:57] Yeah.

[1:17:57] I don't know that we're going to ask for a little bit of a million or a million of a half.

[1:18:01] I mean, that's a lot of cash to put up on the front end.

[1:18:05] We're about that, so make a little bit of a number that you can, there's a couple

[1:18:12] of that you see, you're right, I'll make it a proposal of what you would like to put in

[1:18:15] true. You guys look at, sure. Make sure whatever is the district that our customer, the district

[1:18:21] doesn't get hurt. When is the driver for us to make a proposal? And we know our costs,

[1:18:26] you know, when it's, well, to that extent, you basically get to the, we come in a little

[1:18:31] third and then you can't, they're making you, they're making a thing. No, whatever you may

[1:18:34] solve in the camp. Let me, yeah, I think I have to put more in. Can we, as if I had a feed structure

[1:18:39] though on our individual hourly rates, I don't know, for these things. Yeah, we can get up to

[1:18:46] there's no need to read you that also law firms and none of them have asked me for a

[1:18:50] photographer.

[1:18:54] So, can I speak Russian?

[1:18:56] This is a project something you want in your district or you are wishing you wasn't in your district.

[1:19:01] I have no opinion on it.

[1:19:03] I don't care.

[1:19:04] It's for me to say yes or not.

[1:19:06] No, no, no, no.

[1:19:07] I just miscarried.

[1:19:08] Just based on some of the comments.

[1:19:10] I could quite tell if this was something that would help you or if this is something you prefer

[1:19:13] not be part of the district, in the right state of the community, okay, let's put them.

[1:19:18] Matthew laid that to me before the, you know, I'm going to apprehend some about it,

[1:19:23] but it could be, it could potentially be good for the district, but it could be best, sure. So

[1:19:29] given a good comfort feeling is key, I mean, at any time to go anything, you're coming over to

[1:19:36] the team and you're buying from, you've got to give them a good comfort feeling,

[1:19:39] when they're ready to get their money, they're going to do, and that's what we're looking here.

[1:19:43] This is the guy that we all want to do. Yeah, we have a lot of questions.

[1:19:48] So the town is district phase off when he's making errors. It's probably not the right

[1:19:53] right. I don't know who's there. I think every other there's a march of a discretion.

[1:19:57] Yeah, and like any district, we went on the higher, right? Because our safety there. We're saying,

[1:20:03] we'd like to swing it just back, we'll give it to people. And you know, it's too far in the eye,

[1:20:08] we think two ones in the home. So we've tried to swing to the middle of the two frost.

[1:20:12] I think you guys just the way I'm doing this is okay but once again the research we're talking about

[1:20:19] we're not seeing it getting better period. We're not going to give them a work and so

[1:20:24] bearing on the side caution up a little bit our way. I personally don't want to move up.

[1:20:31] I want to find that resource. Yeah, I have a finite resource. Nice. They're not making more of it.

[1:20:37] We're going to this, you guys develop a lot of this, so that you talk, and you guys, I'm sure, do you feel a lot to them?

[1:20:46] They're finding out that in trouble they are.

[1:20:49] I don't want our district to be in that position.

[1:20:53] I don't want to.

[1:20:54] What do you do not want to dedicate us to this, David?

[1:20:57] Which is don't want to dedicate more, right?

[1:20:59] And that's kind of probably where these arose.

[1:21:01] It's which engineers closest to right in predicting the future, right, so.

[1:21:08] Well, and if it's a little more, we're not going to get hurt.

[1:21:12] Yeah, if it's less, we're going to get hurt.

[1:21:14] Sure, sure.

[1:21:14] The question is, was, locally, right.

[1:21:16] I hear it now.

[1:21:17] Yep, so.

[1:21:19] Right.

[1:21:20] Yeah, look.

[1:21:21] We're going to ask this.

[1:21:23] I'm going to ask you.

[1:21:24] Ask yourself.

[1:21:25] Appreciate your time.

[1:21:26] We will put together a proposal for you.

[1:21:30] I'm going to put an efficient recovery solution on the daily basis that the budget is already ready for the discussion.

[1:21:38] We need this.

[1:21:40] We anticipate that with the field.

[1:21:42] Thanks, everybody.

[1:21:43] Thank you.

[1:21:43] It's time to give you a really nice and clear amount of clear amount of time.

[1:21:49] It wasn't said, or it wasn't made for anyone who did the government work as a.

[1:21:52] That will pay an accurate.

[1:21:55] And I think number eight is going to be more jobs.

[1:22:05] You know what, thank you everybody for being levelheaded, trying to get things and we all have the district that park. That's what we have to focus on. I don't care about our individual cities are very important to us. But this board is robust and we gotta make sure we do the right things all the time. So thank you. Thank you for showing up again, Matt. Yeah.

[1:22:28] I believe you're in this brand life.

[1:22:34] Well, I appreciate this board of poems. I think we owe a whirl on the same page here. But I do think it's not really just to take a look at this and to take a closer look at it and ask the discussion.

[1:22:45] But I mean, we are running out of water two years, and I think we have to be open to the

[1:22:51] good options.

[1:22:53] And this is something that we're maybe, but I don't think at this point, the second

[1:22:59] artist is to look at this further.

[1:23:01] I think if we give right people an interest in, yeah, it certainly sort of looks looking at it.

[1:23:09] Maybe so if I could work.

[1:23:11] So, see you guys in a later discussion.

[1:23:14] Okay.

[1:23:14] Thank you.

[1:23:16] Nothing's thank you guys.

[1:23:20] Great to hear everything else.

[1:23:21] Thank you.

[1:23:22] Yeah.

[1:23:23] I'll take you aboard.

[1:23:24] Thanks for the support.

[1:23:25] Let's go ask somebody.

[1:23:26] Ask them.

[1:23:27] Sure.

[1:23:29] You want to see anything?

[1:23:31] No.

[1:23:32] Well, other than that, I really appreciate you guys.

[1:23:36] of these taking the time to hear it out, to be about it, at least to be what it is

[1:23:44] that's necessary for a group. So, I'm pretty sure that.

[1:23:48] Well, and I might as I mean, you know, honestly, we're both going to say that we're going

[1:23:54] to say that we're going to be the problem of using a printed, printed case or whatever, but I think

[1:23:59] the question is that good. Obviously, we're not like this now.

[1:24:06] Okay, thank you very much.

[1:24:08] Thank you.

[1:24:10] I'm sorry.

[1:24:12] I'm sorry.

[1:24:15] Thank you.

[1:24:23] Thank you.

August 2026 Bona Vista Water Board Meeting

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