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[0:01] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
[0:06] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:12] justice for all. >> A moment of silence for the sick and the
[0:17] recently departed.
[0:23] All right.
[0:27] Okay. Uh the borough council met in an
[0:30] executive session prior to the start of the meeting to discuss legal and
[0:35] personnel matters.
[0:39] Uh roll call attendance. >> Uh Mr. Marolli?
[0:42] » Here. >> Mr. Duszkiewicz?
[0:44] Mr. Colosimo? He's absent. Mr. Ferry? >> Present.
[0:48] » Mr. Braden? >> Here.
[0:49] » Mr. Petricelli? >> Here.
[0:51] » Mr. Saracino? >> Here.
[0:52] » Mr. Copeland? >> Here.
[0:54] » Councilman Grogan? >> Here.
[0:55] » Mr. Kyle? >> Here.
[0:56] » Chief James? >> Here.
[0:58] » Chief Costain? >> Here.
[0:59] » And Chief Roman? >> Here.
[1:01] » And no one speak? Nobody signed up to speak?
[1:05] All right. So, let's get down to business here. I need a motion to
[1:10] approve the July 13th, 2026 regular meeting minutes as submitted.
[1:17] » I shall move it. >> I need a second.
[1:21] Any question or discussion?
[1:25] All in favor, say I. >> I.
[1:27] » Those opposed, say no. Motion passes. I need a motion to approve the August
[1:34] 2026 bill list. >> Make a motion.
[1:37] » I need a second. >> Second.
[1:39] » Any questions or discussion? All in favor, say I.
[1:44] » I. >> Those opposed, say no.
[1:47] Motion passes. A motion to adopt resolution number
[1:52] 2026-21, a resolution of the Borough of
[1:56] Bridgeville indicating the intent of the Borough of Bridgeville to work along
[2:02] with Allegheny County to accomplish the goals of the Live Well Allegheny
[2:07] Campaign. I need a motion to approve.
[2:11] » I'll make a motion. >> I need a second.
[2:13] » Second.
[2:17] » Any questions or discussions? All in favor say I.
[2:22] » I. >> Motion passes.
[2:25] I need a motion to approve the August 14th, 21st, 28th, September 4th, and
[2:31] 11th, 2026 payrolls. >> Make a motion.
[2:35] » Second. >> Any questions or discussions?
[2:39] All in favor say I. >> I.
[2:41] » Those opposed say no. Motion passes.
[2:46] A motion to adopt the resolution number 2026-22,
[2:52] a resolution of the Borough of Bridgeville authorizing the submission
[2:57] of a gaming economic development tourism fund grant for the Bridgeville fire
[3:03] station parking lot resurfacing project. >> So moved.
[3:08] » Second. >> I need a second. Any questions?
[3:11] All in >> grant approved?
[3:14] » Uh no. Uh the project's estimated at 254,000.
[3:18] The grant's for 200,000. I explained to the fire company in
[3:23] there. Uh I don't know how what our odds are
[3:25] going to be for the project, mainly because of we were awarded the DCED
[3:30] grant last year. I don't know how I feel about getting it
[3:33] back-to-back, but um like I told them, we'll reapply until we
[3:38] » We have a couple of years for this, right? This isn't make or break, right?
[3:41] » Correct. >> It's a nice start.
[3:42] » Yes. >> Take a couple losses and
[3:47] » I need a motion to ratify the disbursement of $16,403.08
[3:55] for the sewer fund to Roto-Rooter Services Company for partial payment
[4:01] number two of the 2026 sanitary sewer O&M CDBG program.
[4:08] » I'll make that a motion. >> I'll second.
[4:11] » Any questions? All in favor say I.
[4:15] » I. >> Anyone opposed?
[4:17] Motion passes. A motion to authorize the disbursement
[4:22] of $5,754.99
[4:27] from the capital project fund to Merit Electrical Group Inc. for partial
[4:33] payment number three, final, of the Chartiers Park Shelter number one
[4:39] construction project electrical improvements.
[4:42] I need a motion to approve. >> So moved.
[4:46] » I need a second. >> I second.
[4:48] » Any questions or discussions? >> So what more can you tell me what's
[4:52] remaining on payment amount? I know we had a few
[4:55] punch list items. I saw at John's uh handicap
[4:59] » That's it. $500 for the handicap sign issue.
[5:02] » Is there an electrical issue that we >> It was a nice add if they could change
[5:06] those covers. I don't know if they ever >> We've asked them but they didn't
[5:09] » Our arrival didn't come back yet.
[5:16] They pop out. They just They're They're just They're going to break off.
[5:19] » Yeah, they're not screwed on. >> Oh, yeah. They're going to fall off. Is
[5:21] that plastic? >> It was plastic.
[5:23] » Oh, yeah.
[5:28] » All in favor? >> I.
[5:30] » I. >> Anyone opposed?
[5:32] Motion passes.
[5:36] A motion to authorize the disbursement of $271,101.10
[5:44] to Youngblood Paving Inc. for partial payment number one of the 220
[5:51] 2026 roadway improvement program.
[5:55] » I shall move. >> I second.
[5:58] » Any questions? All in favor say I.
[6:02] » I. >> Those opposed say no.
[6:05] Motion passes. A motion to approve John W. Johnson
[6:12] to the Regional Planning Commission with a term that will expire the first Monday
[6:17] of January 2028. >> Make a motion.
[6:20] » I second the second. >> I second.
[6:23] » Any questions?
[6:27] All in favor say I. >> I.
[6:30] » Anyone opposed? Motion passes. A motion to authorize the disbursement
[6:37] of $10,000 for the capital project fund to the
[6:42] Sports and Rec Associations Associations for invoice number 59 of
[6:48] the Charter's Park Shelter One replacement project.
[6:53] » I make a motion. >> I'll second.
[6:56] » Any questions? All in favor say I.
[7:00] » I. >> Motion passes. And before I give you
[7:03] mine, congratulations, JW. >> Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
[7:08] You're very welcome. >> a little discombobulated up here.
[7:11] » Yeah, I'm sorry. >> [laughter]
[7:14] » You're welcome. >> All right.
[7:16] A motion to authorize the change of venue for the September 14th, 2026
[7:23] 7:00 p.m. council meeting to be held within the Charter's Park Shelter number
[7:29] one. I need a motion.
[7:32] » It's contingent on weather, right? >> I don't know. What does the shelter say?
[7:37] » [laughter] >> Bring your rain boots.
[7:41] » I second. >> If it rains, you come back here. That's
[7:44] my >> I need a motion.
[7:47] I need a second. Any questions or discussion?
[8:04] All right. Um All in favor say I.
[8:08] Anybody opposed? Motion passes.
[8:13] And how are we going to advertise that?
[8:27] All right. A motion to accept and pay any commission
[8:32] due for July 2026 real estate tax collector
[8:38] report. I need a motion to approve. I need a second.
[8:44] Any questions or problems? All in favor say I.
[8:50] Those opposed say no. Motion passes. A motion to acknowledge receipt of the
[8:56] July 2026 treasurer's report. I need a motion to approve.
[9:03] Second? Any questions or discussion?
[9:07] All in favor say I. Anybody opposed? Motion passes.
[9:14] A motion to accept all submitted July 26 2026 official reports.
[9:21] I need a motion to approve. I need a second.
[9:26] Any questions or discussions? All in favor say I.
[9:31] Anyone opposed? Motion passes. Committee reports.
[9:38] My community report is simply to say thank you
[9:43] from borough council to anybody that supported, volunteered, or did anything
[9:49] for the 125th celebration for Riverview. It was a
[9:53] great job. I mean, every every aspect was great. So, thank you all very much.
[10:00] Thank you to public works. Thank you to the police department. Thank you to the
[10:05] fire department, to the EMS, anybody that was involved, all the volunteers.
[10:10] Thank you all very much.
[10:14] That was my report. I thought that was pretty boring though.
[10:17] All right. Next is finance, Jason Cearley.
[10:22] » Uh nothing specifically to report to the public. We have some things in the
[10:25] works, but I'll just add to president's and wanted to point out
[10:31] especially thank our emergency services in South Ridge. It was a lot of the
[10:36] events of 125. Uh the police
[10:40] every request that was made to them, uh they they fulfilled well. And then the
[10:45] police the fire department was the host of a lot of the events and were just
[10:49] spectacular in in all the things that they contributed to the 125. So,
[10:54] secondly, as she mentioned, thank thank you guys specifically for
[11:00] Parks and Rec, Shay Frenchek. >> Uh other than the meeting next month and
[11:04] and the echo what you guys are saying, uh the
[11:07] parks always are looking nice on the stone and the certain certain items and
[11:10] stuff, but uh yeah, triangle was very nice
[11:13] on Sunday with the worship service. Uh people got to run by the block and on a
[11:18] 5K. And Shark Tooth would have been open for softball tournament. We just
[11:23] Too many people weren't doing it, but that's true. So,
[11:26] but our parks always look great. Thank you all. That's all I got.
[11:30] » All right. Public Works buildings, Jason >> I just got a couple things. The street
[11:35] sweeping is done every week full for a week of the month and on
[11:39] Wednesday we visit the tree. Uh
[11:41] grass cutting of our properties, parks, and lake fields. Uh right away is the
[11:45] last thing to be changed. And um
[11:48] Yeah, for the parks makes the parks good.
[11:51] And uh also they're actually in line painting crosswalks and track marking
[11:55] marking around the way, so they're a little bit more
[11:58] deeper colors. People can slow down
[12:02] when they come into the town with the crosswalks there and people will be able
[12:04] to see them.
[12:06] Bright white lines, so hopefully that will alleviate some of
[12:10] the issues.
[12:12] Just people like going to the crosswalks.
[12:15] And um basically they helped out with the 125th anniversary and um
[12:19] they're just doing regular maintenance and on rainy days follow repairs and
[12:23] treat the streets and alleys. They're doing a great job.
[12:27] » Okay, thanks. Uh public safety, Nick.
[12:30] » I got you. I got a few things. Um Thank you. Uh first and foremost, I'd
[12:34] like to >> [clears throat]
[12:36] » restate literally everything that everybody else has said. Thank you to
[12:39] our police, EMS, and uh more specifically our fire department for
[12:42] stepping up and helping with our 125th anniversary celebrations. I know there
[12:46] was countless efforts and time from a lot of volunteers and
[12:49] um but at the end of the day those three organizations sitting at
[12:52] that table really brought everything together, so thank you and thank you
[12:55] very much. Um beyond that we do have some things that
[12:59] have been going on through paying attention closely to Windfield uh and
[13:02] the traffic patterns up there. We have made some progress with the speed
[13:06] machine out in the bank as well and our traffic engineers have put the counter
[13:10] blocks up so we start collecting some more data. Uh we're going to wait to get
[13:13] that information back and have a public safety committee meeting um so we can go
[13:17] over and read that data and see what we can do further to try and help our
[13:20] community members feel that safer on our roads. Um
[13:24] if anybody hasn't seen it yet on the block of the bottom, got
[13:27] four-way stops on there now. Um Consensus from the community seems like
[13:31] it's kind of good. So, we'll wait and see what happens with that. Um but also
[13:36] continue to appreciate our police department for
[13:40] all the new ticketing you guys have been doing. I know it's been
[13:43] a hassle, and you get through it, and you find some positive solutions. So, I
[13:47] appreciate all the hard work you're all of you are
[13:49] putting in the community, so thank you. That's all I got.
[13:52] » Um Chair West, Joe's not here, so if he has
[13:56] anything to report.
[14:00] » Okay. It was I believe soon we are uh uh
[14:04] having a meeting with King Bridgeville soon. I don't remember the date.
[14:10] » Okay. >> We me, Jerry, and I I
[14:12] cuz we're at the meeting. So, we're going to have a
[14:17] down over here. I think it's soon.
[14:20] » It will hopefully be believe this up >> Yeah.
[14:23] » Is November or December? >> Yeah.
[14:25] » We'll hopefully believe this up >> Something like that. I can't remember
[14:27] the date, but it's coming here. >> All right. Could I catch you sometime?
[14:31] » Yes. >> Uh Mayor Copeland,
[14:34] in regards to the 120th celebration, we were grateful to Senator Robinson and
[14:41] Representative Anita Kulick for the proclamations that they presented to us
[14:46] that evening. And also Councilman Frankic and the
[14:51] Bridgeville Athletic Association, that stuck race was a lot of fun. I got to
[14:56] say release the ducks. Thank you.
[15:01] It was a lot of fun. >> I also think the duck didn't get here so
[15:04] long. >> I was with the mayor, and she seen my
[15:06] duck was weighted down. There it is. >> [laughter]
[15:12] » All right. Police Department, Gary James, you had
[15:16] an interesting month. >> Yeah. We uh
[15:20] You have my uh monthly report. Highlights of that is um
[15:25] The officers were out there in the 125th. They helped with the crossing of
[15:29] the Ferry the Lights and we were stationed throughout the 5K race.
[15:35] Um everything went really smooth. I believe the officers were out and about
[15:39] walking around during the celebration, so they were visible.
[15:43] Um as far as my monthly report Um
[15:47] we responded to 640 calls for service uh for the month of July.
[15:52] That brings us up to 5,040 for the year. We had 166 traffic compliance checks
[16:01] uh where the officers were out sitting in
[16:04] uh intersections stop signs, red lights
[16:08] and speeding uh
[16:10] checks. We made 24 criminal arrests in the
[16:14] month. Uh we issued 43 traffic citations. 33%
[16:20] of them were for speed. Um they also issued 37 verbal and 25
[16:25] written warnings. And we did issue only seven
[16:29] traffic violations or seven parking violations for the month.
[16:34] That will uh increase come this month.
[16:40] » Be ready.
[16:43] Well, thank you. >> Mhm.
[16:45] » All right. So, what is it our town administrator?
[16:48] » Thank you. I don't have anything >> Thank you.
[16:51] » Yeah, borough engineer John Howe. >> Thank you, Ms. President. I'll provide a
[16:55] copy of my report. I have a few items of note. The paving program
[17:00] is complete. There's just a couple of very minor punchlist items that the
[17:05] project address to address and things like cleaning out inlets.
[17:08] So, as soon as that gets done, we'll um I'll close that project.
[17:12] Um regarding the park and building area, you know, we'll discuss
[17:17] that briefly. I only have last night's I only have last time to address this just
[17:22] squaring away the line striping on the parking space. It's just one of the
[17:28] dimensions with full eight paint. We'll get that
[17:32] So, it meets all the requirements and that's pretty much my report for
[17:36] this month. Oh, one other item, Power Hill Road
[17:39] pedestrian improvements. The permit is submitted to Penn DOT. We'll wait for
[17:43] that that response regarding the easement with the railroad.
[17:46] [clears throat] The railroad has indicated that they do
[17:48] not own that property or they sold it, but none of the documents on
[17:52] the courthouse state that so we're working to try to get that resolved.
[17:57] » Which which portion?
[17:59] » Uh portion of most portion of the parking lot portion that's closer to the
[18:02] tracks. So, there's two parcels there. They say
[18:05] they don't own it, but everything says they own it, so
[18:08] » We'll talk about it. >> Okay.
[18:12] » All right. Fire Chief, Rick Costain. >> Thank you, Council President.
[18:17] 42 calls for the month of July. Um
[18:21] I want everybody to know that the rescue truck the new rescue truck is slated to
[18:26] be completed in the month of September. We're looking at like the last week of
[18:30] September. Um they will notify us 2 weeks ahead of
[18:34] time as to when we will be going down for final
[18:37] inspection. So, that being said, once we get it here, we're going to have to
[18:42] mount the equipment and things and get everyone trained on it. So, barring that
[18:46] there's no delays, I'm hoping to have the new rescue truck in service in
[18:50] December. >> Great.
[18:52] » Thank you. That's all I have.
[18:54] » Great. Southbridge EMS, Dan Miller. >> Uh nothing to add to my report. Thank
[18:58] you.
[19:01] » All right. Okay, the Quinsigamond 125th anniversary
[19:05] celebrations committee. Who's here?
[19:09] » Up here. I mentioned mention thing is that
[19:13] one of our local gems is the Dairy Delight which
[19:17] they had 125 minutes of free ice creams they
[19:22] gave out and it's a total of 564 free ice cream cones
[19:27] that he so I just wanted to mention that and give them a plug.
[19:30] Awesome. >> Bridgeville Historical Society Lisa
[19:36] Shady Lisa is away.
[19:39] I'm going to tell them just wanted to say that we will be
[19:42] closed the last two weeks of August just for vacation time for our
[19:46] volunteers. We're hoping to have a new floor
[19:49] installed while we're closed. We're working with Ed from Restmer's and
[19:54] he's working with I'm sorry Ed from Bridgeville Appliance and he's working
[19:59] with Restmer's. We'll take up the carpeting that's
[20:03] looking pretty bad put on vinyl flooring.
[20:07] We have a South Fayette High School kid that's been coming in and out for four
[20:11] weeks. He needed some volunteer hours asked if he could do something for us.
[20:16] We have him coming in just doing some clean up stuff and some
[20:20] record keeping. For the 125th we did donate two sheet
[20:25] cakes to the Jubilee committee for them to make the profit on the bake
[20:30] sale. Any remaining cake was donated to the Meals on Wheels and they we got a
[20:35] thank you card they're very appreciative of that.
[20:38] Our next program will be at the end of September and the speaker is Kathy
[20:42] Brand. She's from the Duncan Miller Glass Museum in Washington.
[20:48] » Is the exhibit from the Historical Society at the library finished?
[20:52] » Yes. Yeah, we picked that up last week. >> Okay, thank you.
[20:56] » All right, Bridgeville Library representative Aaron Weaver.
[21:00] We have air for it just a couple of things to add.
[21:04] The next movie on the patio will be dusk set and that'll be Friday, August 28th
[21:11] at dusk. And then registration for all of our fall programs opens on August
[21:18] 31st. And that's all I have. >> Thank you.
[21:21] All right. Bridgeville Parking Authority, Deb.
[21:24] See. All right.
[21:27] Uh Bridgeville Planning Commission representative.
[21:32] Dale. >> Thank you, Madam President.
[21:35] Uh we did not meet in July. Uh our
[21:39] August meeting, we're going to start our annual review of the uh comp plan and
[21:45] you know, we will continue working on existing
[21:48] projects and working with the manager projects.
[21:52] » Thank you. Um Bridgeville Shade Tree Commission, Jen
[21:56] Bromar. Welcome. >> Hello. Thank you.
[21:59] Um in June, the Shade Tree Commission uh met with Ed from Public Works and we
[22:04] mulched trees along Baldwin, Cook Park, and McLaughlin Run. So, we're very
[22:08] grateful to have Ed. I think we're best friends now, so that's good.
[22:13] Um Tree Pittsburgh is doing the second training for us on August 19th.
[22:18] And they are also helping us do a municipal tree adoption event on
[22:22] September 26th that we're going to give away um 300 small trees.
[22:27] So, more information on that will be coming out soon. And in the fall, no
[22:31] date yet, we're going to do another planting event with 22 trees total
[22:36] including a legacy tree to celebrate uh the 125th for Bridgeville and America's
[22:42] 250th. >> Thank you.
[22:44] » Thank you. >> Okay. Borough Manager, Joe Kauer.
[22:48] » Uh a couple of things for the month. We were awarded uh $97,000 in two grants
[22:53] since the last meeting. The first one's uh $60,000 in CDBG funds to upgrade the
[22:58] drinking fountains and concrete work around them within Triangle Park, Cook
[23:02] Park, and Chartiers Park. And then we'll go with the 37,500
[23:07] uh county Main Street grant uh to purchase a sculpture that would be a
[23:12] permanent 125th or 250th recognition for Washington Avenue. So, once we get the
[23:19] grant contracts finalized with the county, we'll work with the public uh
[23:22] regional folks, and we'll coordinate that all through here so that we can get
[23:26] that moving. It's a unique uh endeavor. Essentially, it's like
[23:30] how do you get a sculpture kind of deal? So, it's going to be some some unique
[23:34] things that we're going to have to get through, but
[23:35] it's an exciting time. Uh in regards to grants, the the brick
[23:40] grant for the flood control project, uh FEMA required us to do a public notice
[23:45] for the project. Essentially, if you remember when we did the culvert, this
[23:49] was kind of one of the final steps in the reviews. Uh kind of
[23:53] Well, do you have any concerns issues to put
[23:56] out to the public with the project? Uh it's been advertised posted for 15
[24:00] days, and we didn't receive any comments or concerns. So, we let FEMA know. So,
[24:04] now we're just waiting to see what's next, but uh we're we're seeing some
[24:08] light at the end of the tunnel there. Um
[24:10] we submitted a grant application for sidewalk work
[24:14] to connect Cook School Park to the missing sidewalk lower down on Ridge
[24:19] Road and then up to Passavent Drive. That was an active transportation
[24:23] uh plan recommendation. And that grant got submitted seeking 211,000.
[24:28] And then the last thing I had was uh just to call uh the committee's
[24:32] attention was today was the bid opening for rock salt. And uh rock salt may not
[24:37] sound glamorous, but in the municipal world, it's a a big cost and priority
[24:42] for us. Uh this year,
[24:44] uh we budgeted about $8,000 for rock salt. And that's we typically pay $88 to
[24:50] $89 a ton. That's what the starting contract was.
[24:53] Last winter, uh there was a number of things that
[24:57] made up in a perfect world with a very harsh winter, frozen rivers,
[25:03] uh supply chain um issues,
[25:07] and there's a difficulty with flashers contractor.
[25:10] But, needless to say, this year when the cog re-bid rock salt uh the first time
[25:16] it was bid, there was no bidders for rock salt. So, kind of had a panic
[25:19] button. And uniquely, the borough has
[25:21] participated in the Shay cog joint salt. And from a municipal perspective, you
[25:27] usually get three options: do it yourself, which common the scale why
[25:30] would you do that, the cog, why would you common,
[25:34] or you can compete back the state coastal program. State coastal program,
[25:38] you have to put your estimate up for what you project to buy in March. Well,
[25:42] we we said we're going to go in the cog. So, all our eggs were in the cog basket.
[25:47] Well, like I said, the first time we had a
[25:49] bidder last month there was no bidders. So, what do we do?
[25:52] So, the cog said, "All right." Went back to the salt vendors and asked, "Uh what
[25:57] would you like to see different in the salt contract to make it more palatable
[26:01] to you to bid?" So, in the past, minimum amount of salt
[26:05] we had to buy was 60% of the estimate. And this is probably one of the hardest
[26:09] jobs of being a municipal manager is you have to be an meteorologist on what the
[26:13] weather's going to be and how much salt you're going to have to buy.
[26:16] And typically, the borough uses between 700 and 900. So, roughly estimate was
[26:22] 800 tons each year, too. So, we put an estimate of 750 tons.
[26:27] Um that was what we went with. So, today
[26:30] was bid opening, three vendors showed interest to to get specs to be a
[26:35] potential bidder. One bid. And like I said, last year we paid $88 a ton. This
[26:41] year, it's $160 a ton. So, we went from
[26:46] at the contract minimum now buying 75% of salt. So, a very light winter this
[26:52] year is going to cost us $89,000. On the high side, they put a contract
[26:57] max of of 140%. So, it's 1,050 tons. So, it would be
[27:04] $168,000. You know, like I said, we budget 80. So,
[27:08] um we have we have to see what winter is
[27:12] going to be like for us. Fortunately, going into winter right now, we have a
[27:15] full salt bin. So, we have 400 tons in supply within the
[27:20] But, we're obligated to buy the minimum of
[27:24] 562. So, we're on the hook now for $89,000 next year. So, that that's
[27:27] that's that's given. But, it's this is to get us to the scary thing. It's like
[27:31] if we have a severe winter, uh we we really need to change as a
[27:35] community what we accept for winter in Western Pennsylvania as our expectations
[27:40] of driving in a snowy climate. And flat streets maybe need to prioritize
[27:47] uh the way we clear streets to a degree of what we aren't used to accepting. I'm
[27:53] pretty sure it comes to when it comes to snow. So,
[27:56] over the next couple months we get into winter, we'll see how it goes. And we're
[28:00] going to have to see how this plays out. See how we
[28:04] adjust. So, they have a snow plan. I mean, you give guys a over arch. I know
[28:08] you got a couple hills and Yeah, so we we've had like last winter, we ran into
[28:14] issues late in the winter when the rivers froze and it was hard getting
[28:18] deliveries here. Uh we were running low. We we said, all
[28:21] right, hills, intersections, main roads, you know, the alleys didn't need salt.
[28:26] You know, so it worked, you know. So, that's probably
[28:30] where we'll end up going. You know, we'll probably start that way. But, um
[28:34] and $160 a ton, uh you know, when we have a normal
[28:38] drastic we'll dump $8,000 of salt on the road,
[28:42] you know. It's crazy, you know. It's
[28:47] It's it's going to be a culture change going into the winter because we can't
[28:51] we we can't live that glorious anymore in the city.
[28:54] So, a lot of Western Pennsylvania communities have been through the cog.
[28:58] We're not alone. >> So,
[29:01] between the cog by themselves and the uh CO STARs
[29:06] are other municipalities around us doing >> one or the other one or the other or a
[29:10] combination of the >> something we have to look at going into
[29:12] the winter next year if this is going to be what the state allows.
[29:15] » I I think just what I wanted to come March, we're going to have to we're
[29:18] going to split our estimate. So, we may end up with two different salt
[29:23] companies, which would be great because if we get a debacle with one,
[29:28] but we're going to have to split. >> Is that close ship by the river?
[29:32] » It's called River Valley Salt, but Jason's more
[29:34] » [cough] >> of a program with any amount. I know
[29:37] for us the salt we were getting were coming from the river.
[29:40] » They all prefer rivers.
[29:48] » But that was right off the press. It hasn't even got the We haven't even yet
[29:51] to even receive the official bid. That was just a phone call after the opening
[29:55] at 10:00. >> Well, it's nice that we had a bid.
[29:58] » Yeah, better than nothing. >> Yeah,
[30:00] it was awful in my mind. >> How about any movement on the CVS right
[30:05] away? >> They're they're nearing completion. They
[30:08] got the permits today for their signage. >> Okay.
[30:12] » So, hopefully it's getting close to the end.
[30:14] » What all do we have to do? >> Uh we don't have to do.
[30:18] No, they'll have to finalize their building permits and inspections to get
[30:22] an occupancy permit. >> But everything from here has been done
[30:26] voluntarily according to the finish renovation.
[30:28] » They will have a pharmacy there? >> Yes.
[30:30] » You can promise me that? >> Yes.
[30:32] » I don't want to go to Walmart. I saw Nothing against Walmart. I love
[30:35] Walmart. We need that tax revenue just to fix the
[30:39] salt thing. >> [laughter]
[30:41] » We need a big
[30:43] » Uh tax credit. >> The real estate, that was the highest
[30:46] assessed parcel in the bureau. Um it was it was that property. It still is after
[30:51] the reassessments. But uh they are significant taxpayers
[30:55] for the Act 511 for the taxes as well. Do you have anything to add on that,
[30:59] Salt? >> Um well, I mean
[31:02] right now like last year's prices is important as
[31:06] we're starting prices yet in December. So, just looking at it now, it's going
[31:11] to be a lot of volatility against it.
[31:15] For 160,000, that's what it seems uh you know I actually spoke to the
[31:20] previous administration the [snorts] day after I got here.
[31:22] And he knows how to defend school districts they're planning on bringing
[31:26] in more. But, you know, the barges and the train
[31:30] cars are still coming. So, um but he said they're still not
[31:35] all the barges are running about 60% than last year at this time.
[31:38] » Yeah. >> So, they're still
[31:40] trying to get it all together. >> It's it's scary. It gives you really bad
[31:44] anxiety because in the past we would run low, we would ask for salt order, we
[31:49] would have a delivery within 3 to 5 business days. And then last winter,
[31:53] they weren't able to make deliveries and then the snow wouldn't stop and then we
[31:57] just keep getting news and no trucks are coming and then
[32:00] you have an expectation to deliver a public service and if your vendor who
[32:05] you're contracted with have a relationship isn't fulfilling their end
[32:08] of the deal, the business doesn't care. It's still us. We they ultimately get
[32:13] bailed. It's just the salt.
[32:15] And it's very difficult in the winter time. With now trying to phase out all
[32:21] right, are are we going to be able to have a 3 to 5 day turnaround? And in the
[32:25] past 2 years we haven't. So, we have to be aggressive in what we ask for. So,
[32:30] they kind of like uh sets the stage. We had this conversation 2 years ago, but
[32:35] it's it's hard is that. We do need a uh an improved salt storage facility.
[32:43] It's just a matter of finding an adequate place for it that long term
[32:48] wouldn't be at the mercy of someone else because we've been at that table before
[32:53] and we need it so that hypothetically it would be nice that you could have 800
[32:58] tons in that bin so that you go into winter we're not at the
[33:02] mercy of someone. You know, at the same time we can
[33:05] » empty one building and order weight something.
[33:08] » So it's like so I keep the old ones like that. Let's fill it over with like
[33:11] something. We really That needs to be a priority just figuring out an adequate
[33:16] location that one isn't in a flood plane that isn't going to wash away in a
[33:20] spring rain. So it makes it hard in Bridgeville, you know, so it's it isn't
[33:25] easy. So that's where like we need as as a public works committee to sit down and
[33:30] and try to come up with a long-term solution cuz that's something within the
[33:34] next 5 10 years we we really need to have an outcome. Because when the the
[33:38] bridge project was going on and PennDOT was kind of forcing our hand with some
[33:43] stuff there it kind of put us in an an awful awful position and that we talked
[33:48] our way out of it, but we don't want to be in that position
[33:51] again.
[33:53] » All right, let's talk new business. Let's have a discussion about the
[33:58] McLoughlin Run Road and Baldwin Street traffic signal versus a four-way stop
[34:04] intersection. Comments? Questions?
[34:10] » Well, we discussed it there and in the new and our new
[34:14] so I don't know. Does anybody else have anything
[34:18] to voice their opinion? >> I need to get some context. So that's
[34:21] for the community that's here. So uh Here and chime in. So
[34:26] Here Here's what's going on. It's a very antiquated traffic signal light corner
[34:31] of Holland and McLaughlin. A single four-way head that's suspended by three
[34:35] guy wires that's tied to three wooden utility poles at that intersection.
[34:41] It's old, the wires are sagging. During the uh while we were being diverted to
[34:46] detour traffic from the railroad crossing, a truck snagged one of the the
[34:50] guy wires. It wasn't the truck's fault. It was old and sagging, so you can't
[34:54] blame this on the truck. So, the thing has been low.
[34:58] We called out our traffic signal repair folks, and he said, "I
[35:03] can't raise that thing 8 in to a foot because the poles are in bad shape. So,
[35:10] I suggest you go to West Penn Power. They appear to be the pole owner. See if
[35:15] that pole will support us put new guy wires on it because if it can't support
[35:19] the new guy wires, you got to get a whole new signal here."
[35:23] So, we go to West Penn Power. West Penn Power does research and says these poles
[35:27] are owned by Verizon, they're not ours. So, Verizon says, "We own two of them.
[35:32] We own the one on Mill Street, and we own the one on McLaughlin, but the one
[35:37] on Holland Street is West Penn, so this kills 2 weeks now of them back and forth
[35:41] with utility wires." Go back to West Penn. They come back and
[35:45] say that that pole is joint owned with Verizon.
[35:49] So, they go back to Verizon. Verizon says, "All right, we'll we'll do it.
[35:54] We're already going to we'll do the third, but I won't be there till late
[35:57] August and into September." I said, "Oh, okay." Well, then last week uh another
[36:01] truck tapped the signal and then the bottom
[36:05] green signal head got cocked, you know, so
[36:09] another [snorts] truck called for traffic signals came out. So, they came
[36:12] out and fixed the green light, but it was still low. So,
[36:16] Gary and I made the executive decision that we we had to do something because
[36:22] it's going to the next traffic hit from a truck isn't going to go as well, and
[36:27] that's not right to put someone in that position. So, the traffic uh folks had a
[36:32] good idea was I can dismember the current signal head, take
[36:37] the yellows and the greens off, and leave the red, put the red on flash. So,
[36:41] uh that was done, and then Gary Coursey of Public Works put up uh temporary stop
[36:46] signs, so the folks under here can stand.
[36:48] We're We're city slickers here. We're always joking that we don't understand a
[36:52] blinking red light. Like, we're in the country that So, the stop signs kind of
[36:56] like made it more palpable and understandable.
[36:59] » [snorts] [clears throat]
[37:01] » So, we've talked to business owners that are down there. I was down there today,
[37:06] and I talked to Bruce at Bruce's Auto, and uh he you know, I he says
[37:11] the vehicles are actually the intersection's operating better, and
[37:15] he says it it I don't see the speeding. People were
[37:18] going through uh slow.
[37:22] So, uh that's kind of the history of what brought us here today. So, before
[37:27] like I pass this over to the chief, and we open up the discussion, we're really
[37:31] at a crossroads where we do three things. What do we do? One, we go full
[37:38] war and continue on with Horizon, replacing their three signals, and then
[37:42] we invest to put the traffic signal back. That's option one.
[37:46] Option two is we continue with the blinking red light,
[37:51] and you know, that you know, blinking red light and
[37:54] stop signs. Or three, we we have
[37:57] four stop signs and call off Horizon for replacing all these poles that really
[38:03] wouldn't be needed if we got a new signal head.
[38:05] So, that's where where we were, where we're going, and
[38:09] and maybe I can ask the chief now for like how has it been operating as a stop
[38:14] sign? >> It seems to be operating better. The
[38:17] only hiccup that we had was um we had to remove all the stop here on
[38:22] red signs because people were stopping 35 ft from the intersection.
[38:26] You're stopping for the blinking red light and then blowing through and you
[38:29] couldn't see them coming. So, public works
[38:33] went down and they blacked out the old um,
[38:37] lines on the roadway. Um, we put new stop stop lines down. Uh,
[38:42] the one is on the opposite side of the crosswalk.
[38:45] Um, the only reason that was done, um, which is different than the previous
[38:50] is that if you stop before the crosswalk, you actually wouldn't be able
[38:54] to see around Bruce Mayne's building, Bruce's Auto Body. So, we just moved it
[38:58] to the other side. Um,
[39:02] it's working, I think, better than uh, what it was. I will say I was
[39:08] shocked that yeah, people didn't know that a blinking
[39:12] red light in both directions means stop. Um,
[39:16] so, we adjusted, put up the temporary stop
[39:20] signs. And it's up to you all, I think, how you want to proceed. Do you want to
[39:24] leave just the blinking red light, replace the stop light, or go with a
[39:28] combination of either stop signs and a blinking red light, or or the stop signs
[39:33] themselves. >> Chief, what do you say? What would you
[39:36] recommend? >> I would probably recommend, um,
[39:40] right now the traffic light is out of the way. I would keep the blinking red
[39:43] light and put up permanent stop signs.
[39:48] That way, uh,
[39:51] it gives you warning. Um, me and me and Joe had a conversation about it today
[39:56] about possibly putting some signs prior to the intersection, stop ahead
[40:01] stop ahead signs somewhere along the main route, which is McLaughlin, so
[40:05] people just to give people the warning.
[40:09] Three of the three sides of the intersection, it's not a problem to post
[40:13] uh, stop signs. Um, the one side coming from Upper St.
[40:17] Clair to Bower Hill Road, it's
[40:20] a difficulty because it's a wide open parking lot. Um,
[40:24] but we do have an easement to put the stuff in.
[40:27] So, I would I would think that
[40:30] the blinking traffic light with the stop
[40:32] signs and I don't I don't foresee anybody
[40:36] hitting the stop light again.
[40:39] » They may go over the stop signs. >> What's that?
[40:43] » I said they may run over the stop signs. >> It's always always a possibility.
[40:50] » What what what is it the best decision then?
[40:55] It seems to be a problem in between that >> And where is the other signs?
[40:59] » We don't know about it. >> You get no coffee to take that sign
[41:02] » You looking at the blinking light down >> I mean
[41:06] » What cost is to replace everything? So, >> That is definitely an option.
[41:10] » To remove the traffic signal all together.
[41:13] » Um, I'll just go with four stop signs. >> If you see
[41:17] If you see future issues, well, then we can always revisit that.
[41:20] » I I think if we if we eradicate
[41:24] the stop signs first, we can just shut the light off
[41:27] » Yeah. >> Yeah.
[41:28] » and see how it's working. >> Yeah.
[41:30] » And then then we can come back later
[41:33] » And that's a great idea. >> and make a decision as to okay, there's
[41:35] four-way stop without the light working or should we continue with the
[41:39] the traffic signal also.
[41:42] » And option one is the only one that will cost us money, correct?
[41:47] » What? >> Replace everything.
[41:48] » Yeah. >> You think about it.
[41:50] » Um, >> You
[41:51] » We're not putting a signal. I think we all agree to put the regular green is is
[41:55] gone. >> That's out.
[41:56] » That's out. >> All right. So, then it's you got two
[41:58] options. One just four stop signs, no signal, or four stop signs and blinking
[42:03] red light. And then when we talk about the four signals and the blinking red
[42:06] light, >> Uh,
[42:07] » we have two things there. >> So, it's like
[42:09] » What was our talk? >> Uh,
[42:11] we're manning the stop signal. So, we need to resignal permit depend on it.
[42:16] So, PennDOT may come back and say, "Hey, you need to upgrade it to current
[42:20] specs." You know, and they may want to install red lights, which probably will,
[42:24] you know. So, who knows what PennDOT's going to
[42:26] require? And then, you know, yeah. Um
[42:29] or cuz Gary makes a good point where, in all reality,
[42:33] that thing's up high now that it probably won't be hit. It It's at the
[42:37] minimum height where we can play call Verizon off. Cuz it it went off a lot
[42:41] with the weight talking to them. Correct.
[42:45] I think save Verizon the hassle and the money, they don't need to do anything.
[42:49] So, if that's the case, it it it's just business as usual, but if
[42:53] Verizon replaces those poles and we have to switch over to the new
[42:58] poles, that's that's all new guy wire. It's going to be a couple thousand bucks
[43:02] for us to do that work. But, if if we
[43:06] apply to PennDOT, which we have to, and they come back and say, "Okay, fine as
[43:10] it is." Then we're done.
[43:12] » And we're still at the mercy of PennDOT's discretion.
[43:14] » Correct. But, um if Verizon does do the pole work, it's
[43:19] going to cost us a good bit of money. >> Is it
[43:22] » That's that's the That's the money equation.
[43:26] » So, I guess we're in the position what comes first.
[43:29] » Yeah. Do we need the poles? >> Uh
[43:33] I I I think what comes first is we all
[43:35] agreed to be four-way stop. So, it's that next month, you know,
[43:40] authorize the solicitor now to prepare an ordinance to make that intersection a
[43:43] four-way stop to start the agenda. So, it's kind of safe to seal the stop sign
[43:48] on through the head with an ordinance to make it a four-way stop.
[43:53] And then, while that's going on over the next month,
[43:57] we can stall Verizon until we find out what John does with making a permit
[44:03] application to PennDOT to for the signal permit. In the same application for a
[44:07] signal permit we you just did for the crosswalk here is
[44:11] what we're talking about. So, >> The only difference is because it's a
[44:15] sig- it's an actual full signal intersection right now and not signs,
[44:19] » [cough] >> eliminating [clears throat] the um
[44:23] Sorry, I'm joking. Eliminating the uh the full signal
[44:26] operation may not be it may be a separate a little bit different
[44:30] requirement and may require additional traffic studies.
[44:33] And they have to enroll that. >> So, the first step would be to
[44:37] meet with them and find out what what they're going to require.
[44:39] » Sure. So, PennDOT's involved cuz McCollum's a state road, is that is that
[44:44] why they are >> of the old court.
[44:45] » PennDOT's also every signal whether it's on a
[44:49] on a municipal road or a PennDOT road, if it is a flashing light, if it's a
[44:54] signal, you must obtain a permit from PennDOT.
[44:57] They control all signals in PA. >> So, we have to start with PennDOT.
[45:01] » Yes, start with PennDOT. >> Yeah.
[45:02] Okay. So, we've addressed the safety issue of the light at least being moved
[45:05] up, poles, the weight off. And we have to ask PennDOT's permission
[45:09] to change anything. >> Cuz we're amending the the signal.
[45:13] » Just to clarify, is >> would be able to do what the chief had
[45:17] recommended maybe >> We put in the four-way stop signs.
[45:20] » Yes. >> And then and you shut off the light and
[45:23] see how it goes. I With PennDOT's blessing.
[45:26] » Yeah, let's see what PennDOT says if that can be done. And it can stay off.
[45:29] » If it works well, then you you don't have to worry about that. If it doesn't,
[45:32] come back to flashing. >> And I'll get the signs. So, I had to
[45:36] order stop signs and uh we'll have the permanent stop signs in by the end of
[45:39] the week of next week. So, like that's that's a that we have to
[45:43] do that. >> Okay.
[45:44] » But it's just a matter of what we do with the light and uh
[45:48] I think the way I understand it is I'm going to stall the lights until they
[45:52] don't do anything for a while. And uh you'll apply for the signal permit and
[45:57] then we'll go with that and coordinate it with with the chief and the engineer.
[46:00] » I'm sure we have to go through the engineer
[46:02] right [clears throat] now whatever we doing
[46:05] temporarily now. It'll be we have experience to see what
[46:09] works the best of it. >> Yes, cuz that's kind of what we did now
[46:13] is you have temporary stop signs there now, so that's the toe in the water to
[46:17] see if it doesn't work and if it works, then now we'll have
[46:21] permanent stop signs within the week and Tom will start papering this up.
[46:26] » Okay, so do we need to make a motion? >> I think you do.
[46:30] » Yes.
[46:33] » So let's see. I'm going to need to make a motion for Tommy Sherman to do an
[46:39] ordinance >> to prepare, yes.
[46:40] » to prepare to >> So you're making a motion
[46:43] that you wish me to prepare an authorized general so that you have an
[46:47] opportunity >> I think it'd be smart because that way
[46:49] then at the September meeting it could be in effect.
[46:52] » Okay. All right. All right.
[46:55] Um I need a motion to approve.
[46:58] » Make a motion. >> I second.
[47:00] » Any questions? All in favor say I.
[47:05] » I. >> And what opposed? Say no.
[47:09] Motion passes. And could you say one more time what you're going to do?
[47:13] » I will prepare the ordinance and the general
[47:16] send it to the uh newspaper to advertise the time to be considered at the next
[47:21] month meeting. >> Okay.
[47:22] » And we'll make the intersection of Baldwin Mill in the block into a
[47:25] four-way stop. >> Okay. Okay.
[47:28] All right. No roundabout yet?
[47:31] » No. And uh subsequently uh direct the
[47:35] engineer to apply for the PennDOT traffic signal timing.
[47:43] » All right. Anything else? I need a motion to
[47:47] adjourn. >> I assume we'll second.
[47:51] » All in favor say I.
[47:53] » I. >> Motion passes.
[47:56] Great.