[0:00] I will buy my own.

[0:02] [laughter]

[0:04] >> Okay, it is time to start.

[0:05] >> So the leather jacket

[0:09] banging the gavvel.

[0:12] >> Okay, we are going to [clears throat]

[0:14] start our meeting. Thank you to everyone

[0:16] who's here. We appreciate your

[0:18] attendance and um we are glad to see you

[0:22] here. Um the opening remarks are by me.

[0:25] Take a deep breath here for a second.

[0:27] Um, I just have been thinking so much

[0:29] with our the recent Fourth of July and

[0:33] America's 250th birthday. It's it's just

[0:36] been a really good reflection time for

[0:39] me. Especially when I was in school, I

[0:40] studied the foundations of the

[0:42] Constitution. It's something I'm really

[0:44] passionate about and I just want to

[0:47] express gratitude for the country we

[0:49] live in and the freedoms we have. And

[0:52] um, I'm really really happy that we live

[0:54] in Cash County. And with that, I will

[0:56] offer a prayer. If you'll all join me.

[1:00] Our father in heaven, we are so grateful

[1:02] for the many, many blessings that we

[1:04] have. And we're grateful, Father, for

[1:07] the opportunity that we've had to

[1:08] celebrate the birth of our country and

[1:11] for the great men who and women who

[1:13] fought so hard to give us those

[1:14] freedoms. We're grateful to live in this

[1:17] valley and for the beauty that we have

[1:19] and the neighbors that we have and the

[1:21] culture that is here. and we're grateful

[1:23] that we get to be a part of helping to

[1:26] govern and to make decisions that will

[1:28] help make this a better place for all

[1:29] who live here. We ask thee to be with us

[1:32] tonight. Help us to be kind and help us

[1:34] to have wisdom and thy guidance in all

[1:37] that we do and say. And we especially

[1:39] ask thee, Father, at this time when the

[1:41] world is in so much turmoil, that that

[1:43] would bless the leaders of nations and

[1:45] states that they would be use wisdom and

[1:48] good judgment themselves and that that

[1:50] we might be able to find more peace in

[1:52] this world. And again, we're thankful

[1:55] for all that we have and we express

[1:56] these things in the name of thy son

[1:58] Jesus Christ. Amen.

[1:59] >> Amen.

[2:00] >> Will you all please join me in the

[2:01] pledge of allegiance?

[2:04] I aliance to the flag of the United

[2:08] States of America and to the republic

[2:11] for which it stands. One nation under

[2:14] God, indivisible, with liberty and

[2:17] justice for all.

[2:22] [clears throat]

[2:22] >> All right.

[2:24] Does anyone would anyone like to make a

[2:27] motion about approval of the agenda? Do

[2:29] we need to make a an amendment to the

[2:30] agenda, Andrew, about the

[2:36] Um the opening the budget opening.

[2:39] >> Uh no, we can discuss that later.

[2:41] >> Okay, we'll discuss that later.

[2:43] >> Approve the agenda.

[2:45] >> It's been moved [clears throat] and

[2:46] seconded that we approve the agenda.

[2:48] Those in favor say I.

[2:49] >> I. Any opposed?

[2:51] >> Okay. What about the minutes? We have

[2:52] three different sets of minutes to go

[2:54] over.

[2:56] >> I didn't see anything specific in there.

[2:58] Does someone want to make a motion or

[2:59] did someone else see something I didn't?

[3:02] >> I didn't see anything. So, I'll make a

[3:03] motion we approve the minutes of the

[3:05] county workshop on the 23rd of June,

[3:08] council on the 23rd of June, and the

[3:10] board of canvasers on July 6th.

[3:15] >> Second.

[3:16] >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded that

[3:17] we approve the minutes that have been

[3:19] presented to us. Those in favor say I.

[3:22] >> Any opposed?

[3:24] >> Okay. Court of the county executive.

[3:28] Um, I have a single matter and it I'm

[3:31] going to turn the time over to Mr. Web

[3:34] to discuss the status of two of the

[3:37] interlocal agreements we're working on

[3:39] with Powder Mountain.

[3:43] [cough and clears throat]

[3:47] Kurt Web, deputy executive.

[3:50] Two of the ones that we're working on

[3:52] currently are the agreement with the

[3:55] sheriff's office. That's done on an

[3:57] hourly basis. It's been approved by both

[4:00] uh Weber and us. And we just thought we

[4:02] would keep you updated. If you've got

[4:04] any questions on how that works, I'm

[4:06] open to that.

[4:10] » Um do we have a copy of it that we can

[4:12] read and look at? Have you received

[4:14] that, Kir?

[4:14] >> We have one now. We can we can

[4:15] distribute and will

[4:16] >> play. Thank you.

[4:17] >> Okay. The other one is the health

[4:19] department and and I can get Jordan to

[4:21] weigh in on this. We were we thought we

[4:24] would have it by now. We haven't, have

[4:26] we? Do we have Weber's comments on it?

[4:29] Yep.

[4:30] >> We we've got it from the health

[4:31] department. We do not have it from

[4:34] county

[4:34] >> council. Yeah. That's all we're waiting

[4:36] for is for their approval. And that's on

[4:39] a fee basis. So, it's not costing us

[4:42] anything. They're reimbursed for on a

[4:44] fee basis for the services they perform.

[4:47] We just recently got, I'm extending this

[4:50] just to say for your information, we

[4:52] just recently got a proposed interlocal

[4:55] agreement from the development services

[4:57] department. Uh met just this afternoon

[5:00] with uh Eric and the uh representatives

[5:06] from our development services

[5:08] department.

[5:09] We're not happy with what they've

[5:11] written. So uh we will be working on

[5:14] that. Thank you.

[5:17] Thanks, Kurt.

[5:18] >> The other portion is just to advise you

[5:21] that we had another couple of meetings

[5:23] with the committees on the fire board

[5:27] and they're working through the various

[5:29] issues. There are a whole raft of issues

[5:33] still to be dealt with, but there is

[5:36] progress being made on that. We also

[5:40] received uh DNE's opinion with respect

[5:43] to um the Nixon Nixon gravel pit. Sandy,

[5:48] I think you and I got the copy. I think

[5:50] it ought to be circulated to the members

[5:52] of the council. And

[5:54] >> did I get it?

[5:54] >> Perhaps we'll want to deal with that in

[5:57] a executive session.

[6:00] >> I think that's probably a good idea.

[6:02] Okay. Um

[6:03] >> I I think that's everything I have to

[6:07] report today.

[6:09] Okay, thank you. Does anyone have any

[6:11] questions for the executive?

[6:14] I do know that when we met last um when

[6:16] we had our appropriations and we

[6:18] discussed the pro the fire district and

[6:20] Nolan had some questions that you asked

[6:22] him to write down. I really like that

[6:24] idea because he had some of the same

[6:26] questions that I did that we've talked

[6:27] about. But if we write it down, we can

[6:29] let everyone that that's going to save a

[6:31] little bit of heartache and time. It it

[6:33] would it I I think if it dealing with

[6:37] questions orally, Nolan, you you ask it

[6:39] and you you're not sure I've got the

[6:41] complete answer and I'm not sure I've

[6:43] got the complete question.

[6:45] >> No, I was clear as mud, man. So,

[6:47] [laughter]

[6:48] >> let's work on that though. Let's get

[6:49] some things down.

[6:50] >> The fault on the hearing party, not the

[6:54] party that he didn't get exactly what

[6:56] the questions are. But I I think the way

[6:59] we'd actually like to handle that is

[7:02] have the questions. We'll start

[7:04] numbering the questions. So it'll be

[7:06] question number one, question number

[7:08] two, so that we can kind of keep a

[7:10] running total of all of the questions

[7:12] that comes in and all of the answers

[7:14] that are given. And some of the

[7:16] questions we don't have the answers for

[7:18] immediately, but I got your two

[7:22] questions. Um,

[7:24] and we will be giving you a written

[7:27] answer to those questions.

[7:28] >> Thank you. And any other questions that

[7:32] you have involving that, I'm happy to

[7:35] work with Chief George to get the

[7:38] answers as best we can and we'll see

[7:40] that those go to the committees involved

[7:42] as well.

[7:44] >> Okay, Andrew, I just forwarded that

[7:47] Nixon memo to you if you want to send it

[7:49] to everybody. Okay. All right. items of

[7:52] Is that it for the executive? Is that

[7:54] >> Yes.

[7:55] >> Okay.

[7:55] >> Um Bear River Health Department revised

[7:57] interlocal agreement. Jordan

[8:03] » Jordan Matthysse, director of the Bear

[8:04] River Health Department. Um here again

[8:08] to talk about the interlocal agreement.

[8:10] Hopefully everyone was able to see the

[8:11] correct edits this time and that was my

[8:14] fault. I apologize for that. Um but I

[8:18] will run you through real quickly. Um

[8:21] those edits, I'm going to focus mostly

[8:23] on the the major edits. Um there's some

[8:26] real minor ones. Um we just in section

[8:30] two on page three, we just threw in the

[8:33] date of when uh we became a multi-count

[8:37] United Health Department. The United

[8:39] Local Health Department is important

[8:41] because that's the one that gives us the

[8:43] responsibility to oversee behavioral

[8:45] health services. Um in in the last

[8:49] rendition um we outlined some some

[8:52] duties for behavioral health. Uh we we

[8:55] failed to put in the public health

[8:57] duties. So that's what you're primarily

[8:59] seeing there is anchoring back to state

[9:02] code for both public health duties uh

[9:06] that are outlined in state code and then

[9:09] we also uh expanded some of the

[9:11] behavioral health duties that are

[9:13] outlined in state code as well. Um, do

[9:17] you want me to read through those or

[9:18] explain any of those to you? Those are

[9:20] all really just linking back to

[9:22] responsibilities in state code.

[9:25] >> Does anyone have any questions about

[9:26] that part?

[9:29] >> I was going to read something. I'd want

[9:30] something else than this read to me. So,

[9:32] [laughter] okay.

[9:33] >> Have bedtime story.

[9:34] >> All right. Um, that that is the biggest

[9:37] change right there as far as total

[9:39] number of words changed is is just

[9:41] really being clear on the the state

[9:43] code. Um in under section 4 in

[9:47] organization

[9:49] uh section 4.2 we add two exeicio

[9:54] members uh to the board. Uh one of those

[9:57] being the county executive for Cash

[9:59] County uh where Cash County has a

[10:02] separate form of government um so that

[10:04] we have both the the legislative and the

[10:07] executive branch representative for each

[10:09] county. And then where Utah State uh is

[10:14] the largest employer and also uh a huge

[10:19] community within our community, uh

[10:21] they're going to have an exeicio member

[10:24] uh appointed. Uh in talking to the

[10:26] president and his office, they've

[10:29] decided to have the emergency manager

[10:31] serve uh that that function. So, it'll

[10:34] be the emergency manager moving forward.

[10:37] Um

[10:39] in four on page seven 414123.

[10:44] Uh this was just a a minor change but a

[10:46] really important one. That that last

[10:50] part that says as necessary. This keeps

[10:53] the door open. We learned a lot in our

[10:55] first year uh going through this process

[10:58] and contracting with uh Bear River

[11:01] Behavioral Health. uh it it allows for

[11:05] us to change that contract with them as

[11:09] necessary, as we deem necessary and and

[11:12] without having to come back to the the

[11:15] governing bodies of each county. We it

[11:18] gives us some delegated authority to

[11:20] change those things as necessary. Um

[11:25] then we did add an exeicio seat to the

[11:29] ba uh the what we call the B hack which

[11:32] is the behavioral health advisory

[11:34] council. Um remembering that the

[11:36] behavioral health advisory council is to

[11:38] advise on the planning, operation of

[11:41] behavioral health programs. They act as

[11:43] a function of the county um of the

[11:46] counties and and so that advisory

[11:49] council. However, we found out as we

[11:52] started to to work on that council that

[11:54] the expertise on on the requirements in

[11:57] code for an area plan, we really did

[12:00] need um Bear River Behavioral Health to

[12:04] be at the table in those discussions

[12:06] because they've been doing it for so

[12:07] many decades um in our communities. And

[12:11] so, we were kind of blind in a portion

[12:13] of that. and we need that expertise, but

[12:16] we also can't have them having a vote on

[12:19] the advice that they're giving back to

[12:21] the counties on how to run the programs.

[12:23] So, yes, they're going to be in the

[12:25] conversations. They're going to have

[12:27] that, but the any votes on any advice

[12:30] that comes back to the counties from

[12:32] that advisory council will not involve a

[12:35] vote from them.

[12:38] Um so they will have an exeicio seat and

[12:42] then

[12:46] in uh we just have the the requirements for

[12:52] the behavioral health director who you

[12:54] appointed last time. Um that individual

[12:58] or their design will serve as the

[13:01] exofficial member of the Bhack. That was

[13:04] that's tied to the last one. And then

[13:06] the only other one um

[13:09] that we felt was important as we've gone

[13:11] through from a fee for service uh model

[13:15] for substance abuse uh treatment in our

[13:18] area to a capitated uh model under

[13:22] Medicaid. uh that required a the

[13:26] department to contract directly with

[13:28] Medicaid whereas Cash County was the one

[13:30] actually contracting with Medicaid

[13:32] before on behalf of the three counties

[13:34] under the former it this delegates that

[13:38] responsibility for us to execute that

[13:40] contract with Medicaid. So that's what

[13:43] 5222

[13:46] uh indicates is that we will take

[13:48] responsibility for for contracting

[13:51] directly with Medicaid for that and then

[13:53] communicating back to the counties what

[13:55] the Medicaid match requirement would be

[13:58] um and coordinating with the three

[14:00] counties on that budget request for for

[14:03] us to meet that match. Jordan, do you

[14:05] anticipate because of the capitation and

[14:07] that change from fee for service that

[14:09] our 20% match might be higher or like

[14:13] what do you anticipate with that? We we

[14:15] think that they'll there may So let me

[14:18] tell you in complete transparency right

[14:21] now Medicaid is charging us more upfront

[14:27] because they don't have exact they don't

[14:30] have great numbers and so we got some

[14:34] sticker shock when we first got the

[14:35] first bill. We fully anticipate that to

[14:39] level out and either stay where it's at

[14:42] or be right around where it's at.

[14:45] Possibly through a managed care model.

[14:47] The the theory is through a managed care

[14:49] model that you could actually see that

[14:50] go down because you're going to weed out

[14:53] some potential non-necessary treatment

[14:57] um in the Medicaid system. So,

[15:00] initially, I think we're gonna we're all

[15:03] going to say, "Whoa, the state's asking

[15:05] for a lot." What my understanding is in

[15:08] our conversations with them is they will

[15:11] reimburse us. If we overpay on the front

[15:14] end, then they reimburse us on the back

[15:16] end. But we were really I had a little buyer's

[15:21] remorse. I won't I won't lie. I'm like,

[15:23] did we do the right thing? And then when

[15:25] we got into it, they said, well, this

[15:27] should come back. and and really once we

[15:29] get some solid numbers, the the thing

[15:31] that we're struggling with is every

[15:34] other county in the state has been doing

[15:36] this for decades and we're jumping in.

[15:39] They all experienced it when they first

[15:41] jumped in and we're jumping in really late in the game. So, I I'm

[15:48] anticipating that it actually will

[15:50] either level off or go down a little

[15:52] bit. So,

[15:54] >> okay.

[15:56] Thank you. Those

[15:59] are the changes

[16:01] um that we're recommending to to the

[16:04] county for consideration.

[16:07] Um

[16:09] and

[16:13] » okay, does anyone have any questions for

[16:15] Jordan

[16:17] >> about this um interlocal agreement? I

[16:20] would entertain a motion then we need to

[16:22] move to accept it.

[16:23] >> Can I ask one question?

[16:24] >> Yes, please. The other counties were

[16:25] sending it around electronically for

[16:28] signatures. Is that okay with Cash

[16:29] County?

[16:30] >> Yeah. Would you make sure that Janine

[16:32] gets my electronic notice of the

[16:34] meetings and and so forth?

[16:36] >> Yep.

[16:37] >> Okay.

[16:37] >> And Andrew has mine. So,

[16:40] >> okay,

[16:41] >> we're good.

[16:43] >> Okay. Make a motion on this.

[16:47] >> I will make a motion on the Bay River

[16:49] Health Department revise interlocal

[16:51] agreement that we approve that.

[16:53] I'll second that.

[16:55] >> Yeah. Can I the discussion? Sorry, I

[16:57] jumped the gun.

[16:59] >> Um, yeah, I see on 8B there's a

[17:04] that different or is that the same

[17:06] thing?

[17:06] >> This interlog agreement has to be

[17:08] approved by resolution.

[17:09] >> Oh, so we have to do it later in the

[17:10] meeting. This is just a presentation.

[17:12] Okay, that is confusing. Sorry. Okay.

[17:15] Then if if nobody has any further

[17:17] questions, we'll take that we'll resend

[17:19] that motion and take that vote later

[17:21] when we get to that portion of the

[17:22] meeting. Thanks for

[17:25] >> Okay. Um Craig Mallister, our revered

[17:30] treasurer.

[17:32] >> Well, no, I don't need to introduce

[17:33] myself, but Nolan said that uh didn't

[17:36] want to muddy the water. I'm going to

[17:37] muddy the water. Hopefully get a little

[17:40] rather than muddy. So Sandy, you asked

[17:44] We have to make a decision.

[17:48] >> That's why you wore a tie so you could

[17:50] necessarily

[17:50] >> for you Nolan.

[17:53] >> So I have to give the state a response

[17:57] of what we're going to do as our

[17:59] percentage.

[18:01] And so in box number one on the left

[18:05] there.

[18:07] >> So this is what all the other counties

[18:09] are doing as far as a percentage. And so

[18:12] you'll notice the Cash County were 85%

[18:14] title one, 8% title two, and 7% title

[18:20] three. So if you want to just be like

[18:22] everyone else, you leave it the same and

[18:24] we move on and then we get that money.

[18:26] But let me pose some things that I've

[18:28] learned in the past couple of days. So

[18:31] SRS can be sometimes confused also with

[18:34] P with our PILT money. They're both

[18:38] given for by Sheena Goodsil from the

[18:40] state. So as we look though highlighted

[18:44] in green on that box number one, there

[18:46] are many counties that do zero.

[18:49] Now the reason that I would entertain

[18:51] that we would want to change from eight

[18:53] to zero is that if you if you look on

[18:56] page two, let's go to page two and the

[18:58] kind of the salmon color.

[19:01] >> Will you Oh, you're going to tell what

[19:03] secure just give an overview of what SRS

[19:06] is,

[19:06] >> right? and and and hopefully we can get

[19:08] there. So, it's [clears throat] SRS is

[19:10] the Secure Rural Schools Act. And again,

[19:13] that training that was in your packet

[19:15] from pages 25 to 50 gives a really good

[19:18] training on there. So, if you have a

[19:20] chance, thank you, Andrew, for

[19:21] presenting that. It's much more

[19:23] thorough, but this is kind of the

[19:25] highlight type things that we have as a

[19:28] county to make a decision tonight so

[19:29] that I can respond if we're going to

[19:31] change that percentage.

[19:33] So, as you look, other counties are

[19:36] doing zero in title two. And title two

[19:39] is, if you look, special projects on

[19:43] federal land. Those have to be approved

[19:46] specially and succinctly. And in past,

[19:49] we've had Josh, I talked with um Matt,

[19:52] and we're not getting title two funds.

[19:55] So, when we're earmarking 8%, we're

[19:58] basically giving it to nobody.

[20:00] >> Yeah. So my recommendation on our

[20:02] meeting today is that we change that 8%

[20:04] and if we give a raise proverbally title

[20:08] three is county funds and if you look on

[20:10] page three those are typically going to

[20:15] our um search and rescue type stuff. So

[20:19] that's whether you choose as the county

[20:22] elected official to send those to search

[20:25] and rescue or if we choose to move them

[20:27] over to title one which is typically

[20:30] roads which I've highlighted and circled

[20:33] which we have a big expense and our

[20:36] expenses are always bigger than any

[20:38] money that we get. I would recommend

[20:41] that we move that 8% from getting

[20:44] nothing to getting something. That's

[20:46] what my whole output that we're trying

[20:47] to do. So if you like averages, we could

[20:50] leave it where it is. My recommendation

[20:52] is you move it one way or the other. In

[20:54] the middle of page one, it just talks a

[20:56] little bit about what it is. So these

[20:59] are forest service and it's money that

[21:02] comes on a 7-year rolling average. So

[21:05] it's collected from forest service and

[21:08] this is a copy from Sheena which is from

[21:11] the state of Utah which is estimating

[21:13] what next year's amount is. So 287

[21:17] if you look in that page on 25 to 50

[21:20] you'll see that there is one county that

[21:22] has an estimated 1908 25% which is um

[21:27] some not some I can't remember where it

[21:29] is M but anyway they get a huge amount

[21:32] but we don't have that option so it's

[21:35] not an option there's your $300,000

[21:38] total number Sandy that you're talking

[21:40] about but half of it is already being

[21:43] distributed to the school district and

[21:46] then half of it goes to the county. So

[21:48] the the election that we choose tonight

[21:52] will be the distribution that we will

[21:53] get next spring. That's an important

[21:56] component. But the PILT funds, not to

[22:00] confuse or muddy the water, will be

[22:01] money that we're going to get which is

[22:03] payment in lie of taxes. Those will be

[22:06] coming at the end of this month. So I'm

[22:08] trying not to muddy but separate. These

[22:11] funds that we're talking about first are

[22:13] monies that we're going to get next

[22:14] spring and it's approximately $287,000.

[22:19] So again, the reason for the timing of

[22:21] that I think is important is when the

[22:23] federal government's physical year is.

[22:25] So that's why the we have to make these

[22:28] and we don't have a Josh that's doing

[22:30] that. We don't have a Matt that is

[22:31] really understanding. So my

[22:33] recommendation stands I think you need

[22:35] to have a discussion on whether we move

[22:37] that first over or to the right or the

[22:39] left. The other thing that Sheena taught

[22:41] me is that the state and the government

[22:44] can sequester or hold back about 5.7%.

[22:47] So that's why they're always estimates.

[22:50] I apologize directly is not spelled the

[22:52] way I've got it. And there should be a

[22:53] closed parenthesy. It was late this last

[22:56] night when we when I kind of worked on

[22:58] this page two. So PILT just to bring

[23:02] information rather than a PowerPoint.

[23:04] Now you got something you can take. So

[23:07] these are our PILT monies. So, it's not

[23:09] really directly the SRS stuff, but these

[23:12] are the monies that we've got in box two

[23:14] for the past since 2021.

[23:17] Notice that it's been aboutund, you

[23:19] know, 7% of 4% or 4% of 3%. It's

[23:23] declining. So, I just estimated that our

[23:25] PILT money um for this year will be

[23:28] about 28,000. We don't know yet. They

[23:30] don't know yet. Sheena didn't know yet.

[23:32] She's still gathering information.

[23:34] back to the first thing again, roads is

[23:38] important and so I would encourage that

[23:40] we [clears throat] think about roads and

[23:42] then on the right side are the actual

[23:45] funds that we've received historically

[23:47] since 2022. Notice no title two. So I

[23:52] think we're giving those away if we

[23:53] allocate that. So page three, if you're

[23:57] interested, I've kind of covered it, but

[23:59] page three is just talking about where

[24:01] we as the county have used those. And

[24:03] you notice in the box on the right our we always have more road dues than

[24:09] what we're doing. So information my

[24:12] recommendation is that we have a

[24:14] discussion whether we move that 8%

[24:16] either to title one or title three and I

[24:19] would start that as a discussion if you

[24:21] guys could have that please.

[24:23] >> Craig you said we don't have the option

[24:24] of going back to the 1908 um original uh

[24:30] allocation. How come is that? Cuz I know

[24:32] some some counties do.

[24:34] >> There's only one county that does.

[24:35] >> Only one.

[24:36] And I think that was a

[24:37] decision that was made a long time ago

[24:40] and it's it's a it's you could either do

[24:43] all or none and and we we want some

[24:45] money because this is well over

[24:47] $und71,000.

[24:48] And also before we start the discussion

[24:50] on what to do with that money, I just

[24:52] want to say that this was something that

[24:55] was a big discussion at NAO when I was

[24:56] at Niko in February in Washington DC

[24:59] because the federal government had

[25:00] withheld SRS money for a couple of years

[25:03] and Niko lobbyed and got them to release

[25:05] it from 24 and and so they're trying to

[25:08] make it be something that's ongoing, but

[25:10] for right now they reauthorize it every

[25:12] year and and Nico's pushing pretty hard

[25:14] to get the counties so you can rely on

[25:16] that money. So

[25:18] >> again, if you want to go more in depth,

[25:20] you can go to that training that's 25 pages that I'm sure you all

[25:24] read.

[25:26] >> But it's good. It is actually good. Mr.

[25:28] Gunnel,

[25:29] >> so two questions. How did the eight get

[25:32] in title two? And if we decide to change

[25:34] it now, does that stand or have we got

[25:36] to do that every year?

[25:37] >> Each year, Sheena will send me an email.

[25:39] It just changed that they allowed that

[25:41] allocation in the last couple years. She

[25:43] didn't know when it changed, but she

[25:45] concurred saying that because I asked

[25:47] that direct question. Are we just losing

[25:48] money? And she says I would move it

[25:50] over. So I think

[25:52] >> so if we move it that will stand going

[25:55] >> it will stand for this year and then

[25:56] that would be the going one that would

[25:58] come forward for next year is what we

[26:00] have done in past. Yes.

[26:01] >> Okay.

[26:03] >> My recommendation would be title one.

[26:07] >> Okay. I did look at this PowerPoint too.

[26:10] I have a question about this might be

[26:11] the most jargony acronym laced uh

[26:15] presentation in the span of a few

[26:17] minutes I' I've been a part of but um it

[26:19] does say if the county share of the

[26:21] state payment is more than a 100,000 but

[26:24] less than 350 that's where we are right

[26:27] >> based on the estimate yes

[26:28] >> it says the county must allocate 15% to

[26:32] 20% of its share to title one two or

[26:34] three or a combination or sorry just

[26:37] title two and three or a combination of

[26:39] both. And then it says the total

[26:40] percentage allocated to two and three

[26:43] must be no less than 15 and no greater

[26:45] than 20.

[26:46] >> So based on though my conversation with

[26:49] Sheena and that's why table one

[26:54] that and that is what's very different.

[26:57] There are some places Grand that are

[27:00] doing 100% carbon that's doing 100%.

[27:02] Davis is doing 100%. So

[27:04] >> So is this actually a rule or is it a

[27:06] guideline? I

[27:07] >> I didn't write it. Tell me I didn't read

[27:08] this for nothing.

[27:09] >> I'm I'm glad that you read it because

[27:11] you brought more information because

[27:12] that's why I called Sheena several times

[27:15] to ask those questions, but she was the

[27:17] one that gave me the recommendation that

[27:19] if you're leaving it in that middle,

[27:21] you're just throwing the money away.

[27:22] >> Yeah.

[27:24] >> So, what it looks like is that the other

[27:26] counties are adding those two together

[27:28] and putting them in title three,

[27:31] >> which which is where you're getting that

[27:32] title three. But

[27:34] >> again, there are other counties that are

[27:36] doing 100% and none. So that's where I

[27:39] wanted to give you what other counties,

[27:40] so you're not on an island making this

[27:42] decision. I think 93 is not 100, but I

[27:46] think that's a safer bet than going

[27:49] >> I think I I think going title three to

[27:51] zero would be a mistake. I think

[27:54] search and rescue I I appreciate the the services, but I think we have a I

[28:00] always hear us talking about roads.

[28:02] Yeah,

[28:04] >> nobody has 93. Does anybody want to

[28:09] uh only 100? No one has 93%.

[28:13] >> You could be the only one

[28:14] >> for special anyway. And and you're you

[28:17] verified with Sheena that we can do

[28:18] that.

[28:18] >> She said that we do not have to. She

[28:21] said I just we need the county to give

[28:24] an election of what the county wants to

[28:26] do.

[28:27] >> Okay.

[28:29] Anybody want to uh make a suggestion or

[28:32] ask any more questions? We need to make

[28:34] a decision tonight because it has to be

[28:35] turned in by the 17th, right?

[28:39] >> I choose that we move it.

[28:43] >> Makes sense.

[28:45] >> Some money.

[28:46] >> I'd say we move it over to the title

[28:48] one.

[28:48] >> Title one.

[28:49] Yeah.

[28:51] >> Then what's the what's the breakdown

[28:52] then?

[28:53] >> It' be 93% to title one and and 7% to

[28:57] the title three. title three.

[28:58] >> You could also do a 90 and a 10, but

[29:01] there again, you're in your same only

[29:04] situation being the only one.

[29:06] >> Yeah,

[29:10] » I I would move that we uh take the title

[29:12] two 8% and move that to title one.

[29:16] >> I'll say

[29:17] >> and with the remainder of uh leaving

[29:19] title three at 7% for search and rescue.

[29:23] And I've also discussed with Matt

[29:25] Phillips and also with Britney and I

[29:27] think from the auditor and the finance

[29:30] we need to also look into this a little

[29:32] bit further because page three the pilt

[29:35] was being confused and so I think

[29:37] there's always some good things that we

[29:38] need to still learn on this too.

[29:41] >> Okay. I have a motion and a second that

[29:43] we move the title two money 8% to title

[29:46] one and leave our title three at 7%. Any

[29:50] further discussion?

[29:52] Those in favor say I.

[29:54] >> I. Any oppose?

[29:56] >> Okay. Thank you, Pra.

[29:59] Appreciate it.

[30:01] >> Okay. Public hearings. Does someone want

[30:04] to make a motion about the the public

[30:06] hearing that we need to schedule?

[30:09] I move that we schedule a public hearing

[30:11] for July 28th

[30:14] for resolution 2026-24

[30:16] resolution opening and amending the Cash

[30:18] County 2026 budget fifth amendment.

[30:22] >> Second.

[30:23] >> Okay, it's been moved and seconded that

[30:24] we schedule the public hearing for July

[30:26] 28th resolution 2026-24.

[30:29] Those in favor say I.

[30:31] >> I. Any oppose?

[30:33] >> Okay. Now, holding a public hearing

[30:38] on the budget opening, is there going to

[30:41] be

[30:42] a change on that, Andrew, or do we just

[30:44] go do it?

[30:47] >> So, this will be a bit confusing to

[30:49] explain, but do bear with me. So, three

[30:52] weeks ago, the council uh appropriations

[30:56] committee met and decided on an original

[30:59] amendment. So, that was the version that

[31:02] was posted uh and publicly noticed.

[31:05] That's the one that is available in

[31:07] resolution 2026-21 tonight. However,

[31:11] yesterday the appropriations committee

[31:12] met again in a special meeting.

[31:15] Essentially, the amendment that's before

[31:17] you in 26-21 is now moot. And both me

[31:21] and if I would like to also say the

[31:24] auditor would like to recommend that you

[31:26] don't pass 2026-21

[31:28] because the resolution you just set a

[31:31] hearing for would contain the updated

[31:33] amendments. And the reason why you can't

[31:35] just pass the new amendments tonight is

[31:38] Utah State Code under Title 17 says that

[31:40] you have to publicly notice the budget

[31:42] amendment for five days. And we haven't

[31:44] done that. So, long story short,

[31:47] don't pass 2026-21.

[31:50] I would just wait until two weeks from

[31:51] now to do 24.

[31:54] >> So, we will not hold the public hearing

[31:56] tonight on that. Or do we still need to

[31:57] hold the public hearing?

[31:59] >> Well, if you want to consider or vote

[32:02] down 2026-21,

[32:04] you would still need to hold the public

[32:05] hearing as a formality.

[32:08] >> Or at least that's what I would

[32:08] recommend.

[32:11] >> Okay? even if it is ultimately moved

[32:14] >> because that's what the public was

[32:16] noticed so therefore they have the right

[32:17] to comment on it.

[32:19] >> Correct.

[32:20] >> All right. So we will do that then.

[32:21] Let's go ahead and hold the public

[32:22] hearing on 7B resolution 2026-21

[32:27] the opening of the Cash County budget.

[32:29] Is there anyone here from the public

[32:30] that is here to speak to us about this

[32:34] budget opening?

[32:37] [snorts]

[32:38] >> Okay. Okay. So, I'm going to move

[32:40] >> to close public hearing.

[32:41] >> Second.

[32:42] >> It's moved and seconded that we close

[32:43] public hearing. And I'm sorry, this is

[32:45] confusing.

[32:46] >> Yeah. Is this 88?

[32:49] >> No, this is 7B.

[32:52] >> But it

[32:53] >> pertains to 8.

[32:54] >> It pertains to 8A.

[32:56] Are you here to speak about 8A?

[32:59] >> Yes.

[33:02] » Yeah.

[33:03] >> This is this would be the time for you

[33:04] to speak.

[33:05] >> Please. So, sorry about the motion to

[33:07] close public hearing. We're going to

[33:08] open that back up. Do I need to do that

[33:09] by motion?

[33:11] >> Resend.

[33:12] >> We didn't vote on it.

[33:14] >> We can resend the motion if you'd like.

[33:15] >> No, that's We didn't vote on it. So,

[33:17] well,

[33:18] >> I resend.

[33:19] >> And I accept res

[33:22] >> and I a Richie Call. I'm the head of the

[33:25] department of theater arts at Utah

[33:27] State. I'm here representing Nick

[33:28] Morrison, the director of the school of

[33:31] Kane School of the Arts. Um, and I

[33:34] apologize. I if it is better for me to

[33:37] come back at a different time for a

[33:38] public hearing, I I I can do that.

[33:41] >> You know what, Richie? The the um detail

[33:44] that you're here to talk about is not

[33:46] even on our this isn't the one. It's

[33:49] really confusing because we had a couple

[33:50] of appropriations meetings and the the

[33:53] only thing that was noticed on this for

[33:55] this meeting was the public works and

[33:57] the airport. the the I know the one that

[34:00] you're here to speak about and that

[34:01] won't be considered until the 28th.

[34:05] >> Okay.

[34:05] >> Because it's not here.

[34:07] >> So, is now a good time to talk about

[34:08] that or

[34:10] >> it's it's probably not appropriate

[34:11] because it's not it but we'll and I and

[34:14] I apologize. This is I'm still a little

[34:15] confused too because we've had a couple

[34:18] of different

[34:19] >> iterations of this budget opening. But

[34:22] we will clear it all up next on the

[34:24] 28th. Please come and hear. Thanks.

[34:27] for letting me join you for

[34:28] >> Yeah, we just we just scheduled the

[34:30] public hearing for July 28th and that

[34:31] will be the time.

[34:32] >> The version that was noticed just had

[34:34] capital projects and airport on it. So

[34:36] what you have to say wouldn't pertain to

[34:38] that. So yeah,

[34:39] >> thank you so much.

[34:40] >> Okay. Thank you.

[34:44] Okay. Okay. So now we can go to the 8B

[34:48] the resolution approving the reddrafted.

[34:50] >> I think we need to close public hearing.

[34:52] Now we can have the motion to close

[34:53] public hearing.

[34:54] >> Close the public hearing and I will

[34:55] second that.

[34:56] >> Okay. Moved and seconded that we close

[34:58] public hearing. Those in favor say I.

[35:00] >> I. Any opposed? Okay. Curt's down there

[35:03] just shaking in his boots because we're

[35:04] of our procedures, right?

[35:07] >> No. [laughter]

[35:08] >> I

[35:10] We're getting through this. We're doing

[35:11] it. Okay. 8B. Then that now we can

[35:15] discuss and talk about the resolution

[35:16] approving the reddraft of multi-county

[35:18] united local health department

[35:20] interlocal agreement. Does anyone have

[35:22] any further questions for Jordan or does

[35:24] someone want to discuss that before we

[35:26] take a motion to vote on that?

[35:29] >> Sorry. Do we still need to vote

[35:33] or do we or you just leave it with the

[35:35] ADA?

[35:35] >> Yeah, we'll just continue that.

[35:37] >> Okay. Sorry.

[35:38] >> No,

[35:40] it's all there.

[35:41] >> I made a motion earlier on resolution

[35:43] 2026. I'll suspend the rules and make a

[35:46] motion. We approve resolution 2026-22

[35:50] approving the reddrafted multi-county

[35:52] United Local Health Department

[35:53] interlocal agreement.

[35:58] » Second.

[35:59] >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded that

[36:00] we approve [clears throat] resolution

[36:02] 2026 that we suspend the rules [cough]

[36:04] and approve resolution 2026-22

[36:07] about the multi-county [clears throat]

[36:08] United Local Health Department

[36:10] interlocal agreement. Is there any

[36:11] further discussion? Those in favor say

[36:14] I. I.

[36:14] >> I. Any opposed? [clears throat]

[36:17] Okay. Thank you, Jordan. We got that

[36:18] passed. Okay. Um 8 C. I'm going to turn

[36:23] some time over to Andrew to talk about

[36:24] the um resolution 2026-25.

[36:44] All right. Good evening, council. The

[36:47] resolution before you is resolution

[36:48] 2026-25

[36:50] establishing the Cash County Regional

[36:52] Recreation Center feasibility study

[36:54] committee to oversee and direct

[36:56] countywide recreation initiatives. Quite

[36:58] a mouthful.

[37:02] So, a little bit of background and the

[37:04] resolution's objectives. So, the

[37:06] proposed resolution itself would

[37:08] establish an internal legislative study

[37:10] committee of the county council. It

[37:11] would um to essentially

[37:15] guide how uh discussion and what the

[37:20] county has hired for consultants so far

[37:23] uh regarding study initiatives for a

[37:27] county recreation system. So, Cash

[37:30] County entered into a contract in

[37:32] January of 2025 with VCBO. Um, I'm not

[37:36] sure why there was random bolding in my

[37:38] uh presentation. I apologize. Uh, this

[37:40] came as a result uh for more of a

[37:43] community demand for indoor pool and

[37:46] turf activities as well as uh other

[37:49] ancillary recreation activities. Uh it

[37:52] was coupled then with the then announced

[37:55] closure of uh the Logan Recreation

[37:58] Center, but some situation has has

[38:00] changed with that. But um anyway,

[38:03] essentially this resolution will put

[38:05] together a specialized committee uh that

[38:07] would direct the consultants that we've

[38:10] hired. Up till this point, it's been

[38:11] rather a bit of an ad hoc committee and

[38:13] it's made some progress and I'm I'm not

[38:15] trying to discount that by any means.

[38:17] This would just be formalizing things

[38:19] and essentially setting a goal uh a

[38:22] structure and going from there. But

[38:26] yeah, looks like my PowerPoint did not

[38:29] convert over uh rather well. So I

[38:31] apologize. Uh so under this committee,

[38:35] it would direct VCBO to essentially who

[38:39] are essentially doing that the

[38:40] feasibility study and give input to

[38:42] them. This would evaluate what the

[38:44] county's needs are. uh what its current

[38:46] facility capac capacities are and for

[38:49] its multiple uh mostly city facilities.

[38:52] Uh the physical constraints and and

[38:54] long-term factors of of a countywide

[38:56] recreation model and the committee would

[39:00] also be charged with the objective of

[39:02] delivering a feasibility report.

[39:04] Specifically, VCBO would be the one

[39:06] putting the report together, but

[39:08] ultimately this resolution would outline

[39:11] specifics such as things like a

[39:13] potentially estimated budget, um some

[39:15] potential locations,

[39:17] um what what a countywide recreation

[39:20] system would even look like. So, this is

[39:22] all very preliminary. This is not saying

[39:25] the county is going to establish

[39:26] anything right now. Again, this is all

[39:28] just prelim preliminary study.

[39:31] Um the committee itself would have a uh defined composition. So there would

[39:39] be one to three county council members

[39:41] on it. Uh no more than two of the

[39:42] members can represent any portion of the

[39:44] county seat. That way we have at least

[39:46] one council member. Uh if there is two

[39:49] or three then there is at least one

[39:51] outside of Logan or in the event there

[39:54] is three I apologize but then there

[39:56] would be advisory members. This would be

[39:59] split up geographically so that the

[40:01] whole county is involved. One would be

[40:03] from the county seat which in this case

[40:05] is Logan. One from the unincorporated

[40:07] count area of the county, two from

[40:10] municipalities of the north north of the

[40:11] county seat and two from municipalities

[40:13] south of the county seat. So that way

[40:15] you have a a good geographic mix.

[40:20] the duties and procedures of the

[40:23] committee itself. Uh committee would

[40:25] select a chair uh perform all other

[40:28] duties as needed, assign uh how do I say

[40:32] it? Elect other officers and go from

[40:35] there.

[40:37] The meetings themselves would be open to

[40:39] the the public under the OP OPMA and

[40:43] again the role of this committee is

[40:46] strictly limited to investigative

[40:48] advisory and planning activities. This

[40:50] would not be taking official legislative

[40:52] act action from this committee. Um and

[40:56] at once the committee would be

[40:58] established under this resolution, the

[40:59] committee would give regular progress

[41:01] reports to the county council.

[41:03] But ultimately its deadline to deliver a

[41:06] finalized report would be March 21st of

[41:09] 2027. So there is some some timeline to

[41:12] this instead of wind up let go and

[41:15] hopefully something comes back at some

[41:17] point. So anyway, does anyone have any

[41:20] questions or concerns?

[41:22] >> Does this resolution outline the

[41:24] appointing authority? Like who appoints

[41:27] those members?

[41:28] >> I did not specify that. So since this is

[41:30] a internal legislative committee, um I

[41:33] felt it was most appropriate for the

[41:35] county council to appoint via resolution

[41:37] the members of the of the committee

[41:39] because this would not technically be

[41:40] executing

[41:42] uh the business of the county in the way

[41:43] that say like the planning commission

[41:44] does. This would just be something for

[41:46] the county council to be advised on.

[41:53] » Anybody else have questions for Andrew

[41:55] or things you want to discuss?

[41:57] >> I'll just mention that I had some people

[42:00] talk to me today who felt this was

[42:02] something the council was doing to set

[42:05] there was going to be a recreational

[42:07] scene and there was concern about taxes

[42:10] and everything else. So, please let the

[42:12] public know this is a deeper dive into a

[42:16] committee who is looking at that.

[42:17] There's no decision that that's going.

[42:20] It's no taxes are being used or anything

[42:23] yet. So, it's just the deeper dive if I

[42:25] may explain that way. Are you good with

[42:27] that?

[42:28] >> Just maybe to add to that, the the money

[42:30] that funded the study was approved from

[42:32] wraps tax. This was before my time on

[42:34] the council, which the R stands for

[42:36] recreation. So this is money that's

[42:38] specifically allocated for this that has

[42:41] already been allocated to a study. I

[42:43] think the purpose of this is just to

[42:45] provide more clarity and direction for

[42:48] the group that was hired to do the study

[42:50] so they can have geographic

[42:52] representation in the advice that they

[42:56] receive

[42:59] » and hopefully more clarity as it comes

[43:01] to it. like we talked about who's

[43:03] responsible,

[43:04] >> who's gonna

[43:05] >> and and

[43:06] >> manage it and everything.

[43:07] >> Yeah, Andrew alluded to this, but there

[43:09] has been a group that has been meeting.

[43:11] Some of them are here tonight. And so,

[43:13] uh I think it's important to recognize

[43:15] their efforts are appreciated and it has

[43:17] advanced it forward, but I think it has

[43:20] more more weight if this group of people

[43:23] is officially appointed by the council

[43:26] and is representative. So, I think

[43:28] that's just the next step to formalize

[43:30] it.

[43:32] And the date is

[43:34] >> March 1st, 2027. We'll have

[43:37] >> a report to the county council

[43:40] >> with what action may be taken. And I I

[43:44] want to say that I support this because

[43:46] I've been a part of that ad hoc

[43:48] committee and it's been hard to come to

[43:50] any conclusions and partly because

[43:53] there's no clarity about who's a voting

[43:56] member of that like who's going to help

[43:58] make those decisions. And um I think

[44:01] this will

[44:03] clarify for VCBO. It'll be a group that

[44:06] can say because they don't know which

[44:08] direction to go. They they're they were

[44:09] hired to give us a recommendation, but

[44:11] they they need some direction. So

[44:14] I I would support this the formation of

[44:17] this committee,

[44:20] but we need to take a motion on that

[44:22] because it's a resolution or and this is

[44:24] the first reading of it if you want to

[44:26] continue it.

[44:30] » And this one doesn't require suspending

[44:32] the rules. Yeah. So, I'll make a motion

[44:35] that we approve resolution 2026-25

[44:40] establishing the Cash County Regional

[44:42] Recreation Center Feasibility Study

[44:44] Committee.

[44:44] >> Second.

[44:46] >> Okay, it's been moved and seconded that

[44:47] we approve resolution 2026-25.

[44:50] Um, is there any further discussion?

[44:53] Those in favor say I.

[44:55] >> I. Any opposed?

[44:56] >> Nay.

[44:57] >> Okay.

[44:59] All right. Um, number nine is still

[45:02] pending and I would move that I don't

[45:04] know, it's not a motion, but can we

[45:06] table can we just table this for now

[45:08] until um some things are resolved and so

[45:10] it's not going to keep showing up on our

[45:13] um is that have to be a a formal motion?

[45:16] >> I would suggest for if you want to take

[45:18] that action, I would suggest a motion to

[45:20] table.

[45:21] >> Okay.

[45:22] >> Indefinitely.

[45:23] >> Would someone feel comfortable doing

[45:25] that [clears throat]

[45:25] >> indefinitely or can we give it a 90day?

[45:28] >> That's up to you.

[45:30] I'm hoping

[45:30] >> I don't want Yeah. I don't want it

[45:32] tabled to where we forget about it.

[45:34] >> Yeah. So, I will make a motion that we

[45:36] table this for up to 90 days.

[45:41] >> Okay.

[45:41] >> Resolution

[45:42] >> we pass it right now.

[45:46] » 2026.

[45:48] >> Okay. Do I have a second on that?

[45:50] >> I'll second that.

[45:51] >> Okay. Okay. It's been moved and seconded

[45:52] that we table resolution 2026-06

[45:55] for up to 90 days before we look at it

[45:58] again on our agenda. Um, any further

[46:01] discussion? Those in favor say I. I.

[46:04] >> Any opposed?

[46:06] >> Okay. All right. Other business. We're done with the main business of

[46:11] this meeting. I'm really happy. Um, the

[46:13] Hide Park Hometown Days Parade. Um, is

[46:16] there

[46:18] anybody that knows they can make that

[46:19] parade? It's this Saturday

[46:22] besides Mark.

[46:24] >> I won't. I'll have my own entry.

[46:26] >> You'll have your own entry.

[46:27] >> Be there for the county council.

[46:28] >> So, do we not need a county entry for

[46:30] that? I have a family reunion that day.

[46:33] Is anyone else planning to be there?

[46:35] >> Okay. So, we are not

[46:37] >> miss a great one.

[46:38] >> I know. I know.

[46:40] >> The whole block.

[46:41] >> Good luck with that.

[46:41] >> It's as long as Lewon's.

[46:43] >> If anybody um figures out they can come

[46:46] at the last minute, join Mark in his

[46:48] >> Yeah. you're happy to have any friends

[46:50] there.

[46:50] >> Okay. North Logan Pioneer Day parade.

[46:54] Who do we have that wants to go to the

[46:56] North Logan parade? It's

[46:58] >> the same time as Logan.

[46:59] >> It's the same time as Logan. We have to

[47:01] move the fourth. We have to split.

[47:04] >> I actually have an entry in the Logan

[47:07] Pioneer Day parade. And so it'd be nice

[47:10] if you guys wanted to join me or so that

[47:13] we don't have to have a county a county

[47:15] entry and um my entry. But

[47:20] >> is anybody is anybody

[47:22] >> I'm available but my work is still on

[47:24] that day. It's not a holiday for my

[47:26] work. So

[47:26] >> okay, let's talk about the North Logan

[47:28] parade first. Is anyone specifically

[47:29] planning to attend the North Logan

[47:31] parade?

[47:32] >> My answer is the same as it is for the

[47:34] hide park one. I my own entry entry.

[47:37] >> Okay.

[47:38] And then the Logan Pioneer Day parade. I

[47:40] have an entry already put in for that

[47:41] one. So, why don't we just say if if you

[47:44] want to join one of those parades, join

[47:45] Mark or I. And um that would be great.

[47:49] And I think that's all the parades until

[47:50] we get to USU's homecoming for the

[47:52] summer.

[47:53] >> Has a parade.

[47:54] >> When?

[47:54] >> It's on the 18th at 3 p.m.

[47:57] >> Oh, no. How'd we miss that?

[47:58] >> Bula defending a city. So,

[48:00] >> at 3:00 in the afternoon.

[48:02] >> Yeah. I think it's their there

[48:03] celebrations that day from 3 until 10 at

[48:06] night. It's usually a couple days, but

[48:08] it's one day this year. That one is

[48:10] about a block long, but it's [laughter]

[48:12] >> okay. Everybody wants to go to

[48:13] >> Mel Heights has one, too.

[48:15] >> Oh, yeah. When's the trout? When is

[48:16] Trout Days in Paradise?

[48:18] >> Well, River Heights is August 15th.

[48:20] >> That's the end of

[48:21] >> Trout and Berry Days is the last day in

[48:24] August, I believe.

[48:25] >> Trooper Heights is August 15th.

[48:28] >> Yeah.

[48:28] >> Do they have a parade?

[48:30] >> Yeah.

[48:30] >> Okay. [clears throat] Oh, yeah. I've

[48:31] done that one before. Okay. All right.

[48:33] We'll keep on tap top of that.

[48:35] Providence has one coming up too.

[48:37] Sauerkraut days.

[48:39] >> When is that?

[48:43] » Come on, Kurt. When is it? You live in

[48:45] Providence?

[48:46] >> I was asleep.

[48:47] >> George, you guys live in Providence.

[48:50] >> Sauerkraut days.

[48:52] >> Providence. Sauerkraut days.

[48:54] >> That perked him right up.

[48:56] >> That sauerkraut talk.

[48:58] >> Those I know those small towns, the

[49:00] smaller towns in the county. It's really

[49:02] nice to support and to be there when we

[49:04] can. So, let's get that on our list.

[49:07] >> It's the their parade is on Friday,

[49:10] August 14th.

[49:11] >> Wow.

[49:12] >> And River Heights is the 15th.

[49:13] >> It's the 15th.

[49:14] >> Okay. Well, look at 15's on a Sunday,

[49:18] isn't it? They having a parade on

[49:20] Sunday.

[49:25] Is it?

[49:29] I can't get to my Let's see. The 15th's

[49:32] a Saturday, the 14th's a Friday.

[49:34] >> Yeah.

[49:35] >> Okay.

[49:35] All right. Let's get to council

[49:37] member reports. I'm hungry. Mark, you

[49:39] want to start?

[49:40] >> Uh, sure. Um, so I thank you for

[49:44] excusing my absence for the last council

[49:46] meeting where I was out of town, but um

[49:50] there will be a more formal presentation

[49:52] on that visit coming through the um

[49:55] county's

[49:57] um economic opportunity advisory

[50:00] presentation. So I'll save that for

[50:03] later. Uh so the one thing that I did

[50:05] want to report or talk about tonight is

[50:08] um

[50:11] three four weeks ago maybe don't

[50:14] remember the exact date but anyway um

[50:16] there was the kickoff meeting for this

[50:19] year's round of outdoor recreation

[50:23] initiative applications and that process

[50:26] uh state it's through the state grant

[50:29] program for regionally significant

[50:32] outdoor recreation projects. projects.

[50:34] Um Cash County had multiple projects

[50:37] that were beneficiaries of that program

[50:40] last year. Um kickoff meeting was good.

[50:43] There was announcement there's a bit

[50:45] more funding available this year and uh

[50:48] the period the application period opened

[50:51] on the 15th or opens on the 15th

[50:54] tomorrow and goes to September 15th. So

[50:58] look for some discussion mostly led by

[51:02] Landis at this point for some of the

[51:05] things that Cash County would

[51:08] specifically look at as well as um other

[51:11] communities in the county will probably

[51:13] be bringing up some information to one

[51:15] or all of us members of the council to

[51:19] consider. Um but in the north region

[51:24] um you know we're one of multiple

[51:27] counties that are will have submissions

[51:30] for this funding. So, this is a great

[51:32] way to, at least my perspective, a great

[51:36] way to enhance what we can do with um

[51:40] some of the open space properties that

[51:42] are out there as well as um long-term

[51:47] plans with some of the projects we've

[51:49] talked about like the Cold Water Ranch

[51:52] Road

[51:53] >> and others. So, this is a good

[51:56] opportunity for us to look

[51:57] >> taking the lead. Um he he is as nature

[52:01] he and I are both members.

[52:03] >> Okay.

[52:03] >> Um of that committee. So yeah he and I

[52:05] will be working on it but where it's uh

[52:08] his opportunity for it to be a day job

[52:10] he will be leading it most of it. Yes.

[52:14] >> Uh that's it.

[52:16] >> I don't have anything. Catherine,

[52:19] >> um

[52:21] just the rodeo. You mentioned that that

[52:25] we have three four that confirmed for

[52:29] the rodeo

[52:29] >> for Friday night.

[52:36] » okay,

[52:36] >> Mark, were you a yes or no?

[52:38] >> Yeah, I was I responded to that.

[52:40] >> Okay,

[52:41] >> I will be there.

[52:42] >> And I have all the I have the flags and

[52:44] the the banners to decorate the trucks.

[52:46] So, we'll do get that done before the

[52:48] rodeo starts. I'll do the decorations.

[52:52] >> Okay. Yay. Thanks.

[52:55] >> Okay.

[52:56] Nolan.

[52:58] >> So, um last Thursday, planning and

[53:01] zoning. Um short-term rentals were

[53:04] brought up for them to make a policy on.

[53:08] There's a lot of questions. Um there's

[53:10] also the subdivision thing. So, I

[53:14] offered that maybe we could have a

[53:16] workshop on that so that we could help

[53:18] them with what the council is thinking

[53:20] so that it doesn't sit like a ping pong

[53:22] come back and forth on us on the

[53:23] short-term rentals. So, that's something

[53:25] to think if we want to do that as we try

[53:28] to help the planning and zoning come up

[53:30] with some areas on the short-term

[53:32] rentals and also the subdivision so that

[53:35] we align what we would like to see

[53:36] there.

[53:38] >> I think that's a good idea. Okay,

[53:40] >> that's all I have.

[53:41] >> Keegan,

[53:42] >> um Mark talked a little bit about the

[53:44] economic opportunity board, but is it

[53:47] state law that's restricting elected

[53:50] officials from being on that board now?

[53:52] So,

[53:53] >> um that was probably our last meeting.

[53:56] Um

[53:56] >> yeah,

[53:57] >> a new a new chair was elected. So,

[53:59] >> who was it?

[54:00] >> Um Brian

[54:01] >> Brian Carver will be the was the vice

[54:03] chair now will be the chair.

[54:05] >> But, uh I'm sorry.

[54:08] >> No, go ahead. I I should have reported

[54:10] on this, but yeah. So, it was my

[54:13] privilege to serve as the chair, and

[54:14] yes, we as elected officials are being

[54:16] kicked out of that. Um, they don't want

[54:19] our our awareness to be a priority. Did

[54:23] I say that out loud? So, [laughter]

[54:26] >> that's pretty blunt. Well, I'm leaning

[54:28] on that this body has always liked to be

[54:30] in tune and aware of all the things that

[54:32] are coming for us requesting funds and

[54:35] this now pulls us back from that a step

[54:38] which uh you know there there's some

[54:41] good reasons. There's pros and cons but

[54:43] >> there's still public meetings.

[54:44] >> Yes, it's all very public. It's all very

[54:46] open and so that'll be fine. That also

[54:48] means that we will be receiving a uh

[54:52] well we will have the opportunity to

[54:54] make wholesale re or appointments to

[54:58] that board because now everybody's terms

[55:01] are up or Keegan and I have been pulled

[55:04] out. So um that'll be coming in the

[55:06] future meeting where there'll be a

[55:10] request for prop uh appointments.

[55:13] >> Yeah. And I guess just to segue off

[55:15] that, there are a few boards that we

[55:17] will want to consider names for. Airport

[55:19] Authority Board, Economic Opportunity

[55:22] Board, and then the recently established

[55:25] recreation board. So, um should probably

[55:28] come with names in mind for that.

[55:32] >> Do we put out like applica accept

[55:34] applications to the public?

[55:36] >> I'm not sure has it depends on the

[55:38] entity. Um when it comes to I know the

[55:42] specifically one of the bodies in

[55:44] categories of appointments has to have

[55:46] notice but for now everything you

[55:48] consider I don't think so

[55:50] >> and then the last thing I'll mention is

[55:52] the audit committee met today um to

[55:54] review the audit that will be uh the

[55:57] whole council will have the opportunity

[55:58] to review that in the coming weeks

[56:03] >> that it

[56:05] got a new chair too I guess

[56:07] >> yes yes we did Keegan okay Joanne

[56:10] >> is Keegan the new chair

[56:12] >> the new chair the audit committee.

[56:13] >> It was a desperate move, but [laughter]

[56:15] >> it's a step up. I promise.

[56:17] >> Well, I have a kind of a question.

[56:19] >> Why does this budget amendment keep

[56:22] coming up every month? Can you explain

[56:24] that?

[56:25] >> I'll try, Joanne, and then andrew can

[56:27] help me. The way it's set up is that we do a budget amendment once a quarter.

[56:32] We're supposed to do one once a quarter.

[56:34] If there's anything that deviates from

[56:35] our budget, we will consider it once a

[56:37] quarter. in the past in the past month

[56:40] or six weeks. There have been some

[56:42] things that have come up that such as

[56:45] the um what was the one that we had to

[56:48] vote on the last time that was there was

[56:51] one budget opening that we did. It was

[56:53] money that Matt needed to do something

[56:55] and we had to discuss it. There was a

[56:58] time there it was time sensitive. I

[56:59] can't remember what it was. I don't

[57:01] know.

[57:02] >> Anyway, so we've had recently some

[57:04] things that have come up that there were

[57:06] some things that the executive wanted us

[57:08] to consider. There were some um things

[57:10] that were brought to the attention of

[57:11] the appropriations committee, things

[57:13] that were time-sensitive that had been

[57:15] budgeted for that we needed to make a

[57:17] decision on. And so this is unusual to

[57:20] have this many budget openings and to

[57:22] and it it has been confusing. And so

[57:24] hopefully by the 28th we'll get that

[57:26] cleared up. The regular budget opening

[57:29] for this quarter is set to happen

[57:32] um September. We're not due to have a

[57:34] regular budget opening until September

[57:37] again. And that hopefully will get back

[57:39] on track to that once a quarter um

[57:41] budget opening.

[57:42] >> So I thought the budget was an annual

[57:44] thing where you

[57:45] >> the budget is an annual thing, but once

[57:46] we set it for the year, if something

[57:48] deviates at all from that for during the

[57:51] year, it has to be done in a budget

[57:53] opening and approved by the full

[57:54] council. So I think maybe an example of

[57:56] that was there was some expensive

[57:58] equipment that failed that needed I

[58:00] don't remember if it was a printer or

[58:01] something but

[58:03] >> it needed to be replaced and that had to

[58:05] be expedited.

[58:06] >> We also adjust our revenues as we get

[58:08] our tax we do um estimations really good

[58:12] estimations when we make the budget but

[58:14] as we get those tax actual hard numbers

[58:16] in then we get our revenues and we put

[58:18] those into the budget too.

[58:19] >> Oh okay.

[58:20] >> Yeah. And hopefully we'll get back to

[58:21] just doing that once a quarter. This is

[58:24] a little messy right now, but we'll get past it and um hopefully not

[58:28] be too confused.

[58:30] >> Well, thanks for that. The only report I

[58:32] have is I attended the UX Zoom meetings

[58:35] and the ones in Salt Lake and they were

[58:38] very informative.

[58:40] >> Perfect.

[58:41] >> That WOOI one was fun.

[58:42] >> I You know what? I missed that one, but

[58:44] I was on the

[58:47] Yeah.

[58:47] >> Yeah.

[58:48] >> Everyone hates Willie.

[58:51] >> Good thing Casey's not here. Okay, I'll

[58:52] just be really quick. Um, we had an

[58:54] appro we've been having appropriations

[58:56] meetings to try and hopefully clarify

[58:58] some of these budget opening events. Um, has everyone done their BOE

[59:03] training that is online?

[59:05] >> Started it.

[59:07] >> Okay.

[59:08] >> Just check on it.

[59:09] >> Have you done it?

[59:10] >> No.

[59:11] >> Another month.

[59:12] >> I know we haven't. But let's let's make

[59:14] a goal to get it done before our next

[59:16] meeting if we can.

[59:17] >> How long is it?

[59:18] >> Two hours.

[59:21] [clears throat] But you don't have to

[59:22] sit in two-hour block. I think you can

[59:24] do parts of it. Okay. But it's so it's

[59:26] important that we all get it done or

[59:28] we'll be out of compliance with the

[59:29] state. Um

[59:33] » um Dane and I attended the UAC justice.

[59:36] No, you weren't. You didn't get to go.

[59:37] Sheriff Jensen and I were there at the

[59:39] UAC Justice Summit. That was really

[59:41] helpful. Um we had a meeting of the

[59:43] criminal justice coordinating council

[59:45] here in our county and there's some some

[59:48] good things happening with the health

[59:49] department. We're going to we're hiring

[59:52] a case worker to help with the warm

[59:54] handoffs to people who are exiting the

[59:56] justice system. I think we're going to

[59:57] be able to make a real difference here

[59:58] in our county. Um, last time in the

[1:00:01] appropriations meeting or not

[1:00:03] appropriations when um, Katherine and I

[1:00:05] met with the executive Monday, we talked

[1:00:07] about our budget timeline and I think

[1:00:10] he's going to clarify that with the

[1:00:11] auditor and it's time to start um,

[1:00:14] looking at the things that we need to to

[1:00:16] pass the next year's budget because

[1:00:19] we're all happy about that. And I think

[1:00:22] that's about it. Um, those are very uh,

[1:00:25] informative meetings on Monday mornings.

[1:00:27] this Monday there won't be one but most

[1:00:28] Mondays we meet with the executive and

[1:00:31] um that's been really helpful. So any

[1:00:35] and I that's all I have. Anybody want to

[1:00:38] make a motion to adjurnn?

[1:00:39] >> Move to move to adjourn.

[1:00:42] >> Second we journ. All in favor say I. Hi.

Cache County Council Regular Meeting – 07-14-2026

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